So an international night that we weren’t involved in was good fun. I ended up watching part of the Spain vs Scotland game and most of the Bosnia vs France game. Interesting that no coach sees Nasri as a right winger, bar Arsene Wenger… oh, and Laurent Blanc. The Frenchman did bugger all for the first half bar a very poor cross. France looked very average, so average I’d say England could easily beat them 2-0 next year. Bosnia looked pretty good, Dzeko is lumbering but dangerous, but Pjanic looked like a very tidy operator, technically gifted and very creative outwide, down the middle… wherever he fancied playing.
M’Villa, was doing well until he conceded a freekick, Dzeko was played in from the quick freekick and Dzeko smashed it into the top right hand corner great goal. France’s full back Rami looks like he should be playing for Stoke…
Nasri switched to the middle in the second half and once again was truly anonymous, sadly though he won a penalty and converted it… a televisual slap in the chops for all Arsenal fans… it stung, like a stray ball to the face on a frosty Sunday morning.
Demise of French Football…
Is it weak drawing conclusions from the demise of French football and the demise of Arsenal. The quality levels in France drop, we can’t stop shopping there, and our team slumps. We’re tracking Tunisian Aymen Abdennour from Toulouse. The centre back has established himself this season and we’ve been tracking him…
‘They come to watch and scout players. They came to see our last three matches in which I put forward excellent performances for my side.’
The fact he’s playing in France for an obscure team tells me this one is a definite goer. I’m not against players from over there, I just wonder why that’s the only league we scout? There are plenty of good players in Serie A with superb technical ability we never look at, we rarely raid Spain unless it’s for their kids. Why not? Their clubs are all bust! We should be attracting more interest than a footballer in a Romford Yates, clubs and agents should be begging us to take their players off their hands. There has to be some bargains out there!
Gourcuff…
Jeez… there’s me being all hypocritical. The Frenchman who reminds me of a lazy Zidane is available in January as Lyon are begging for cash could be on the cards. We need some youthful creativity. Having a tall, strong player with the experience and vision of Gourcuff could be the spark our team needs to take 4th. He’s top quality, his talent has been mismanaged, his signing could be as good for us as the Arshavin one was way back when. Only question I have is about attitude… again, does this team need that risk?
Eden Hazard…
Everyone is going crazy about Eden Hazard possibly not making it to Madrid. For me, the guy is pure talent, but his temperament is pretty shocking, I’ve heard his attitude stinks of big time and part of me wonders whether the side we have at the moment needs nonsense like that? Sure he might be at a small club, but he walked out on his national team in the summer after being subbed to meet his dad to get a burger. Far play if it’s Sunday League, the burger van is on the pitch, but for your national team?
Robin to Anzhi…
Russian super team Anzhi want to offer Robin Van Persie £238million a year to play in their dump of a town under the tutelage of Roberto Carlos. They’re currently 8th in the Russian League, but their owner wants to take over the world, so obviously they’ll want Robin, Neymar, Anelka and Messi. I can’t see it being a goer… unless someone can find me a story of him buying a suspiciously large holiday home in Dagon.
The Нефтебаза Oil terminal, beautiful for summer picnics
Park Chu-Young
The Korean magician scored yet again against the stern opposition of UAE. He somehow managed to breach their defence with his pace and intelligence, then he casually slotted home. Regardless of who he’s playing, scoring 7 goals in 4 games never did a striker any harm. Hopefully that form will translate into some goals this weekend against shaky Sunderland.
Protest…
People are still talking about ways to protest against the club, I have to say, protest when it comes to football has never been my cup of tea, it’s all very Geordie. If however it was organised and the time was right then I’d do something before or after the game. 7 games regardless of whether it’s a continuation of last season is not enough for mutiny. Also, the misguided concept that anything other than full fan commitment to an expression of dissatisfaction will budge the board is naive.
The idea of a banner is a bit embarrassing for me, if you want to do something properly, here’s how you do it…
1) If you are into individual acts, don’t expect to make a statement unless you’re throwing a pigs head into the arena. Barca fans showed their upset at Figo moving to Madrid by doing so a few years ago.
2) In Spain and Italy, if fans are disgruntled they jointly show their dissatisfaction by waving white hankies. The board know it’s time to move when this goes off.
3) The Ultras in Italy are kind of like the AST, except if you disagree with their concept of EBITA, they stab you in the leg with a broken bottle. If they’re disgusted by a managers performance, they turn their back on the players during the game. Powerful and again, it has impact because it has group compliance.
4) In the States, if the fans aren’t happy with the players, individuals have been known to do planned pitch invasions to throw dollar bills at the greedy players. Qualitative easing in sport… it’d be lost on Nasri, he’d pocket the cash.
5) In Switzerland, Roger Federer and Novak Djokovic reached the final of the tennis, this clashed with the main Swiss derby, so the TV company abruptly rescheduled the football to 1245. The Swiss fans objected to this, so when the game started they launched tennis balls at the pitch. When the officials cleaned up, the fans went for round two delaying the game further.
Being based in the creative hub of the world we really should be coming up with something more creative than a poxy banner and something that is inclusive if we want a reaction.
… and for those that think Twitter is the hub of all life, here is the social medial impact the whole event has had online.
Topic Timeline - Last 7 days
Mention Split - Arsenal + Protest or Banner (579 mentions)
The above search doesn’t take into account the conversation around the comments, but even if you had 3 comments for every mention and they were all in agreement, you’d still have under 5% of the home fan capacity talking about it and that’s assuming 5% of those people go to games. We ran a poll a month ago that highlighted 60% of Arsenal fans were dissatisfied with the performance of the manager, that was a section of 2200 Arsenal fans voting there, would that 60% figure be the same if it was a straight question, do you sack or keep the manager? I very much doubt it.
I’m all for change, I have been all season, but forcing it on people without it being the representative view doesn’t feel very democratic to me… anyway… I’ll leave you to discuss. Hopefully the football kicks off to a winning start this weekend so we can talk about what matters… the team.
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Looks like a good time to throw Park in. He’s in form, and our next 3 league games are at home.
I can’t see what will be achieved by an online petition.
* 2 league games
we’re weak in the protest stakes as a nation and certainly at the grove remember back to early in the year when shawcross showed his ugly thick head I was looking forward to and being part of the mother of all lambastings instead…..a big wet wimper he got off very light that night truly appalling
we’re weak in the protest stakes as a nation and certainly at the grove remember back to early in the year when shawcross showed his ugly thick head I was looking forward to and being part of the mother of all lambastings instead…..a big wet wimper he got off very light that night truly appalling
IvoryGoonz – You seem to think just because something goes through your thought process it suddenly becomes the definitive opinion which everyone else must share.
You ARE the ultimate AKB, and you don’t see it.
Consider this has Wenger fucked up ? You would say Yes, I’d say well lets consider what you think he has fucked up and what he gots right, it’s not that simple.
You then say AKB, lalalalalala..
“Im sorry, but I only see delusion here, a seemingly contradictory statement just to have something to answer – “Im not opposed to Usmanov but Im against having a rich owner.”
keep drowning the fish.”
This is the perfect example, did you read what I wrote ? I didn’t especially want a new owner because football clubs are supposed to represent some sort of connection to the area they reside in, a sense of tradition or history, the more things you change the more you lose that connection.
Even then I understand that under the effects of globalisation this sort of thing is inevitable.
Or a change in ownership shouldn’t be needed if it’s simply so that the new owner can pump in loads of his own cash.
So did I want a new owner that was foreign ? No, not really, but now we have one am I really that opposed to Usmanov coming in ? No, and this is what you don’t get, if we’ve already changed owners, and I have no choice but to accept it, what difference does it make who the owner is ? It doesn’t matter if it’s Kroenke, Usmanov or YOU, except with you I’d know we’d be fucked.
Do you see it now ? Has it got through to you ?!
This is the problem the individual fan faces, if he’s not happy with the way things are going, unless he can converse with a significant amount of like-minded fans he’s stuck with simply his own opinion.
I have no problem with fans who want Wenger out if I can understand their point of view likewise fans who protest, the only problem I have is we ALL support the same club, chose to accept differing points of view don’t try to alienate them with bullshit namecalling and categorisation.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/oct/12/premier-league-foreign-tv-rights
I agree Dial Square
I wouldn’t mind seeing some of the smaller leagues joining together, or being absorbed into some of bigger ones. That’s about as far as I’d like to see it go.
It wouldn’t be the same playing european opposition week in week out. I think as supporters we’d lose more than we’d gain. You’d hardly ever meet someone that didn’t support utd, ‘pool, chavs or us.
The emirates is never going to be an intimidating stadium while it’s full of foreign tourists, and people sitting down talking about work throughout the whole match.
wow Keyser and Ivory in full battle mode!!! Makes for good reading guys!!
That petition is AKBish…..
Sorry but a petition including this sentence: “We all know the current problems at the club and on the pitch but the main issue is not Wenger and the current squad but the complete lack of investment in the squad from the current board” does not hold any truth in it and does not represent me anyway
Arsene is the first to be on the dock! The board and Stan are accountable mainly for not sacking him…..
Arsene said so many times that I couldn’t count them all, we have the money but he won’t spend because he believed in the squad.
We could’ve won the league last season, had Arsene bought a decent CB when it was all but obvious to the whole world including children under 8 years old, the Vermaelen is out most of the season, yet Arsene didn’t act. Two years before it was the same with striker we needed and he didn’t bring, so we played more than third of the league with an attacking midfielder (Arshavin) as our striker…..
I can go on and on with that, but those two simple examples shows our problems are mainly with the way our manager acts. Good CB or good striker would have not bankrupt us at all, yet he didn’t buy because he’s too arrogant and stubborn to admit his own fuck ups
And this without mentioning the complacency culture he inherited in a club that produced players like Adams, Keown, Parlour, Brady, just to mention a very few of our leading characters….
And this without mentioning the tactical inept and the contract extensions of an average-at-best players for so much money we can’t get rid of them ….
And without stating all of his lies to us, and I’m sure also to his stars, that left him because of that
Carlito
Totally agree
rami is a CB
nasri is shit in the middle
Carlito i’ve had those twats sat next to me plenty of times. One of them didnt know who TH14 was when we played Barca.
Is he making his move
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/usmanov-makes-push-towards-30-percent-arsenal-stake-174021604.html
super league is a terrible idea, it would harm national football
wah gwan?
spectacular protest: since the club is a patient, men in white coats are needed
*continues smoking and sipping Bacardi and Coke*
Keyser: “It doesn’t matter if it’s Kroenke, Usmanov”
it does.
that’s what you don’t understand. there’s a difference between shareholder and owner.
and neither of them are owners yet, one is majoritary shareholder, at the board, the other owns more than 29% and isnt at the board.
It is to me unfair that because Kroenke owns 66%, he adopts the current policy of the club, advised by an economicaly minded manager, who are both happy with 4th, and let Usmanov out of it.
We don’t need Usmanov for his money, we still got plenty, but there’s plenty mis-used, and despite the reminders, Wenger still spend it stupidly, and Kroenke wont pick the players for him or force him to pay the extra million.
At least Usmanov would push any manager to compete for title, not for 4th and CL place, and help clear up the current board of mis-management and totalitarism. I dont see why I should give my money to a board that is just happy putting it on a saving account and doesnt invest it in the squad.
And if freeing us of debt + raising some cash against shares to get Usmanov at equity with Kroenke on shares, and make our club a real title challenger is a problem for you, then sorry, you are the AKB. That’s the solution that would make every one happy.
60: Go to LaLaLand and see if Im there.
if you dont know who henry is you should be immediately ejected from the stadium for fucks sake
i think it seems wenger and kroenke are opposite extremes of the same problem
kroenke is no where near the club, doesnt ever watch us and knows fuck all about us.
and wenger is too far involved that he cant see the woods for the trees.
I liked Jeremy Menez performance; versatile and so much energy. i wish it was him we signed
incesc my sons elbow accidentely caught him in the head later in the game
haha good work
i dont get why you’d go to a football game if you dont like football at all but i have met loads of people that arent fans but say they want to go or have been to arsenal.
its never chelsea or spurs
i suppose thats something
I’ve wondered for years about the parallels in the French quality demise and Arsenals. Wenger’s initial card trick was plunging into the French market for players that weren’t on the radar in England. It coincided with France’s rise 1998 – 2002. Since then, it’s all gone Pete Tong. It can’t be a coincidence, unfortunately. I said two years ago we’d never win again under Arsene; I’ve been reading the comments here for a while, and the anti-Wenger comments border on Tottenham at times, but there’s no point sacking the bloke. Just look at the board, they’d end up hiring Christian Gross. Make no mistake we’re in a pickle, Sunderland have been pony so we should beat them, but who’s confident of that? Sunderland will be looking at this as a chance for a good result and get their season going. 15th. Arsene Clough.
‘Profit warning’…..pft!
Sunderland are our notorious banana skin recently…
and yes there is a point in sacking the bloke, it’s a job like any other, on,e tends to up his game for the new boss…
bade the gooner (bernard) says:
October 12, 2011 at 19:02
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Couldn’t agree more bade
Nic eone Dial Square
TheBayingMob:
there is money for Wenger to spend. He decided to be again “too precautious” with OUR money, and the board let him do. they are all responsible, and they will both play with each other against questionning fans, not turn against each other.
They’ve lied before, and theyll keep doing.
but one step at a time brother.
How was/is Luxembourg Sugar3
we cant wait weeks for football then lose at home to sunderland.
its not allowed
dont worry incesc, sunderland are shit
so are we
lets just hope we are less shit and our home form carries on keeping us out of the relegation spots
TheBayingMob:
and there’s no direct parallel.
the reason why France won that world cup was because the coach – Ayme Jacquet – knew how to inspire respect, solidarity, and team spirit, and make them play with each other, as well as playing it home.
then they ended up using the assistant manager – Raymond Domenech – (used to play with Wenger at RC Strasbourg, with some others…) to replace him. Didnt work. At all.
Laurent Blanc inherited the team, the problems and I think he’s done a good job so far. Gourcuff is such a player you make your tactics around him too, but it takes time to adapt your players to learn how to play around each other (and yet, another pre-season f*d up). And being unavailable for long time, didnt help. Nasri should be played behind the strikers, that’s where he’s most effective, and Gourcuff center-right side of the pitch. Difficult to accomodate both without changing drastically tactics, but at least Blanc only tries that when results dont matter.
I hope bendtners not playing at the weekend. If he is were in trouble.
IG,
France won the WC because it was fixed up!
Maradona said so even before the tournament started and boy he got it right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBoJ0c1RdUo
at least we have the squad depth to win things now according to wenger (except the league which we cant win according to wenger)
think zidane played a small part as well
Good for your son, and his elbow, Dial Square.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8cUwOWzzWo
Lucky for us Kwik fit he can’t play, LOL. (fa loan rules)
IvoryGoonz – So now you don’t want Usmanov for his money, you think we’ve got more than enough and we’ve just been mis-using it and Usmanov who’s got no Sports background is just going to come in and tell them what to do and how to get us back to the top ?!
Don’t you find yourself wondering, why Usmanov never pushed himself to 30% beforehand or why he never got the chance ?!
no gyan either
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFmCJE7zsww
The more i listen to wenger and Arsenal.com the more i believe the live in a parallel universe were we are top of the league
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfRQE7huIk8
It has to all about us on Sunday. Our team should be good enough and big enough to take the game by the scruff of the neck and lay into opposition. No ifs no buts, just do it!
usmanov is a far more savvy business man keyser.
hes not going on about billy beane or whoever and loving up wenger on the business side.
hes saying the playing side has to be tip top to sell arsenal worldwide commercially,
and no sports background?? but he comes and actually watches us play unlike that yank tosser that borrowed money to buy us.
Gourcuff isn’t doing it for me ivory. He’s a luxury player and we have to many of them in our squad. He’s also injury prone so he should fit right in.
“and no sports background?? but he comes and actually watches us play unlike that yank tosser that borrowed money to buy us.”
Heh, the person who didn’t know who Henry was came to watch us play to.
very funny but usmanov does follow arsenal unlike kroenke who in his first interview just went on about wenger, surprise surprise because the mad frenchman is making him rich at the expense of the team
kwik fit: stat wise, he’s actually similar to Fabregas.
Keyser
I don’t see why it is more sporting or morally superior to pay less for football transfers and to pay footballers a lower wage.
If you do please explain why.
i would take yoann.
frenchie: and would you take christian?
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/967603/lorient-would-love-to-retain-arsenal-loanee-joel-campbell?cc=5739
erickson? to be honest, i have not seen erickson play much so my assessment of his abilities is limited. seems there is more potential in erickson. in comparison of the two, with erickson you get a player who has the potential to be fantastic and can be so for a number of years. with yoann you get a player who has won a championship and is in the prime of his career, but will have 4 to 5 years remaining.
it’s spelled like that
would rather loan him for a year first.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Eriksen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmQfGZakEhM
2 home PL games this month
We need to get them 6 points.
2 away games to Marseille and Chelsea are going to be very tough!
joel campbell looks like a good prospect
Ivory stats can be deceiving. I agree that he looks the part but I think he may be too slow for the premiership.
If we are to make one standout signing in January I would go for a striker such as Llorente. I think we should revert to 442 with RVP and Llorente as the front two. I would also like to see song and Le coq has to holding midfielders. I think they could bring a little of the old viera/Petit partnership back to the club. We should revert back to the 1998-2005 style of winning football.
no worries lads, bendy will tap him up to join us
kwik fit: so out Chamakh?
Gooby: haha, was waiting for that one
ig-
see? i cannot even spell his name correctly.
thanks for the youtube. i do like to see a player’s work rate over an entire match before i begin analysis.
what is his attitude like? is it similar to our danish hero?
frenchie: hm, seem to have more conscience of his actual ability, and not burn steps…
Chamakh’s not doing it for me Ivory.
gmart,
swell, cultured, wined and dined, was spreading Bendy hate last night
see ya guys later!
frenchie: just worried about his “frame”, might be too fragile for EPL, and that’s why I’d try him out on loan first…
see ya Suga.
nite too, need a good night sleep.
MathewT – “I don’t see why it is more sporting or morally superior to pay less for football transfers and to pay footballers a lower wage.”
Not really the same question I asked is it, in an ideal world it should all be about the football everyone’s given the same resources and it’s down to individual skill and talent to progress further than others.
If business/football clubs are run at a loss simply because a rich benefactor can choose to do so, it just undermines the value of the competition in the first place.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/oct/12/premier-league-foreign-tv-rights
he does look slight, but he is 19. i am sure he will grow.
i am a big fan of the little man, marvin martin. one man assist machine.
does it undermine the competition when one of the top teams in the league with huge resources refuses to use them and concentrates instead on the mad footballing fantasies of arsene wenger for profits
Super League?
And how many English teams would get invited to this super league?
If England got five, how many would Spain ask for or Italy? Then youve got to have representation from a whole host of countries to make their audience want to watch, in reality the absolute maximum teams this league could have from England is 4, and thats streching it.
I can see United as a gimme 100%
Citeh with their spending will be the force in 2-3 years
Liverpool are ahead of us on an international level
So its us Vs Chelsea for the last spot.
Well at least there will be no excuses when we win the Premiership withouth these guys in it, RIGHT?
If we did get in would this league have relegation? Cause lets face it, we are struggling in a league with Bolton and Swansea and we all know Arsenes great record in Europe.
Lets worry about the prospect of facing Forest next year because its more realistic.
Keyser
It is down to the football, the players still have to play and some teams will always have players that are more talented than others because they are able to attract those better players. What is the difference between Barcelona being able to attract top players with their glamour and man city attracting players with their money ? The end result is the same.
Also please explain how a rich owner undermines the value of the competition because you seem to be suggesting that it would be more sporting if for example man city had signed Aguero for 8 million instead of 38 million and paid him half as much. I don’t follow the logic in that.
Mathew T -
Youre spot on mate.
Take the olympics, China, Russia and the US have been having an arms race to produce athletes for decades now, no one else can compete on the spending level they have.
Has it increased or decreased athletics?
Competition is healthy. It raises the bar. Roman made SAF raise the bar.
Citeh will make SAF raise the bar.
Every weekend United lost last season we lost. The reason people think there was a race is because United were strolling.
The points total this year of the champions will be at least 10 greater than last. Next year we will probably go back to the situation where you lose 4 games and thats you out of it.
Anyway. Have a good evening all.
I swear in IG’s video @ 20:47 I saw Chamakh shooting the ball!
I swear!!!!! I saw it!!!!!
MathewT – So Citeh make a massive cash injection to attract players to the club, Barcelona use a massive glamour injection, maybe they get Shakira and Beyonce to dance at half-time ?!
Citeh already had Tevez, they wanted to sell him before they got Aguero didn’t happen, now you’ve got Tevez throwing a strop, a very talented player just wasting and Citeh’s fans with Tevez on the back of their shirts wandering if they can exchange it or get something else.
There’s not much logic on your part, think about Adebayor at Tottenham and Bellamy at Liverpool.
night boys
keep it friendly… and go to that vid if you fancy seeing Chamakh shooting a ball from the edge of the box
Fuck off stan kronkeee!!!
We want gazidis out….. We want gazidis out………
Night grover’s.
Keyser
Tevez could leave man city if he is willing to accept less wages, but that is his choice and as an Arsenal fan i would love to have the problem of which of our world class strikers to have on my replica shirt.
Also you still didn’t explain what it is about rich owners that is bad for the sport you just seem to be some irrational money hating hippy that thinks that arbitary decrees from uefa on which clubs can spend money and which clubs can’t is the height of sporting fairness.
what about the people that had vieira on their shirts when wenger sold him, or all the players wenger sells to citeh and barce to bolster his bank account
and what about all the kids wenger steals off the clubs that developes them in the hope that 1 in 10 might make it whilst the rest remain on the scrap heap.
or the players we have on loan like almunia, denilson, vela, bendtner, lansbury
just like city with adebayor and bellamy…
MatthewT – His wages ? Citeh didn’t want to accept a certain bid, that’s all.
Your second paragraph is bollocks.
Lets put it in terms you started with, Liverpool have a higher overseas following or supposedly this is the reasoning behind them bringing the topic of overseas TV revenue distribution up.
If we give the top teams as it is now the chance to cash in on their global popularity, what happens ? Their revenue’s increase and the gap between them and the teams who don’t have the same level of popularity increases further.
If you look around this is what happened in Spain, their league is pretty uncompetitive now bar the top two teams.
As of now, we don’t have the same problem, but it’s getting that way where the same few teams win all the time and the level of competition doesn’t go down further than say the top 3-4 teams.
The unfair bit is that those other teams don’t have the chance to start afresh on an even keel and build their popularity up through the style of their football or through savvy decisions sporting or otherwise, their pretty much stuck.
Why should Liverpool care, because unless they’re playing one of the other top teams, who the fucks going to care when their playing Bolton because they won’t have a chance of winning anyway.
“that arbitary decrees from uefa on which clubs can spend money and which clubs can’t is the height of sporting fairness.”
Also you plum, I never said, life’s unfair, football isn’t perfect as a sport as it is, all you’re doing is increasing the gap between the top tier teams and those playing catch up.
Don’t know where you’ve got the hippu shit from, you asked a question earlier I gave an answer.
The ideal solution would be to get teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid to conform to thew ay we distribute money.
At the moment the ratio from top to bottom is about 16:1 in Spain.
wow those gourcuff vids are pretty gash, is he working towards a calendar deal or a football contract?
its important to remember that Usmanov isn’t a one man show, Farhad Moshiri is his partner in R&W.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farhad_Moshiri_%28businessman%29
Important like good/ bad ? I know he’s a Man United fan.
They’re fucking everywhere, the AST, the shareholders, everywhere.
Keyser, good I guess, a guy associated with Ernst & Young, PKF and Deloitte lends credibility to Usmanov’s shady image.
United fans are everywhere, but like you say – its a business now, allegiances are irrelevant to these guys.
*sporting allegiances
Keyser
There is a problem in spain but it is not a problem of rich owners buying success , the problem is there are no rich owners to buy success to challenge the big two and FFP has made sure that it will be even more unlikely to happen.
There is a problem in the premier league as well, of the 19 premier league seasons man utd have won 12 titles, Arsenal have won 3 along with chelsea and blackburn have won it once
So its very clear the majority of teams(chelsea and blackburn) that have challenged man utd’s complete dominance of the league have been funded by wealthy owners and were run at a loss. It is now the spending of man city that has opened the league up even more.
It is not just first place that is more open, the old big 4 of chelsea, man utd, liverpool and arsenal has been challenged because of the spending at spurs, villa and man city. Spurs dislodged liverpool from 4th because their owner spent big on players, far more than they could ever generate as a business.
Money comming into the premier league has made it more exciting and more unpredictable not less, Spain doesn’t have ego fueled billionaires pumping millions into their clubs to fulfil their sporting ambitions and their league is complete shite because of it.
Also the FFP rules basicly have UEFA deciding what the market value for sponorship is, they have the arbitary power to cap sponsorship deals and therefore earning power of clubs. Which ammounts to power over which clubs can spend money.
Heh, you kind of have a point, it’s like Steroids in Sport, your idea wouldn’t be stop people taking Steroids, it’d be lets give them to everyone. Anyone who wants them can have them.
The problem in Spain is TV rights, they distribute the revenue at a massively disadvantageous ratio.
Also you need to think about your point there, how is it different from mine, you’ve basically said it’s not that billionaires are pumping in money, it’s that they’re aren’t enough billionaires doing it for each team.
Thing is it should be all or nothing right now we’re somewhere in between, and that’s why it’s not sporting.
Don’t know much about Usmanov’s shady image, is it worse than say Abramovich who passed the fit persons test thingy anyway.
I like Warren Buffett as a rich person, though I don’t think he’s into the rich sugar daddy approach.
Exactly keyser, what matty is saying is that football will be boring without billionaires pumping money in, but what he fails to see is that in 5/10 years, every team in the prem will be owned by bloddy billionaires if UEFA don’t sort it now. And when every team is rich, there will still be the same amount of quality players available to them as there are now, so we will see astronomic rises in player fees and wages, which would disassociate the game further from the true fans. The prem would just be load of billionaires trading a load of millionaires with each other, for me that is not exciting, but crude.
Keyser: the problem is that there are anti-doping controls in place. While it’s not likely UEFA or FIFA will do anything against Real and Barca, neither reducing USA’s training budget.
You want this club to survive in that top four? It’s gonna take more than Wenger, Gazidis and Kroenke.
nor do I Keyser, I read Craig Gordon’s work 2/3 years ago but I’m neither here nor there with it.
In light of what massive private equity firms get on with, starting small wars in Africa etc etc, anyone shoving that much money around has their hand in the cookie jar.
I couldn’t really care less tbh, he couldn’t do any worse than Carson Yeung and while Birmingham have been relegated I don’t think its related necessarily to CY’s fall from grace.
60 pennies: There won’t be only billionaires in EPL in 5/10 years. Not as long as there are only 4 CL places.
The fastest man in the World’s still from Jamaica, survive in the top four ? I want us to be there on sporting merit, not because we haven’t invested enough from our owners deep pockets.
It’s like the bullshit you get told when people say you have no ambition as a fan, if it comes down to it I’d always rather play football than watch it.
I see a few billionare names bandied around on here as potential future suitors of Premier League Clubs
Lets just say the really rich are, as I type, servicing an insatable Chinese appetite for a certain country’s iron ore
Oh! & whats this I see as breaking news
Mining giant BHP Billiton has approved $1.2billion of funds for the first phase of the Olympic Dam copper, gold and uranium mine expansion.
Nathan Tinkler is Australia’s youngest billionaire @ 35 years of age, according to BRW’s Young Rich List. He has just bought A League team Newcastle Jets. Well done big fella, keep the money here
I guess rugby won’t get a mention on here until the ram rooters from across the ditch beat NSW & Queensland this weekend in the semi’s.
To be fair, Wenger has purchased outside of France:
Reyes – Spain, Mertz – Germany, Lehman – Germany, Eduardo – Croatia, Rosicky – Germany, Hleb – Germany, Ryo – Japan, Chamberlain – England, Park – Korea, et al. And that is really the start of a long list.
Nathan Tinkler? Wasn’t he a character in a Carry On film?
FFS, time zones are quite diffrent, waiting for a new post could literally take all day
And theres still that mythical ‘daylight saving’ when they fuck up with time to come
Pedro is busy wid his charts again today i fear…
arsenal rocks!!
Just be doing good guys