Jack’s out for the season and Robin refuses to sign a contract. Deja vu anyone?

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You can also say deja vous before anyone says something! So this time last season we had Vermaelen out and Nasri in the last 2 years of his contract, I wonder if we have learned anything, this year we have Robin in Nasri’s position and Jack in Vermaelen’s, last season we were told Veramelen would be out for a few weeks and it ended up a season, we did nothing to replace him and won nothing, and contary to what the manager says, we weren’t even close.

Earlier this season we were told Jack will be out for September and now we are told 5 months, and we know that means all season. Why it takes that long is one of life’s little mysteries, I broke my arm in 8 places and was hitting golf balls 5 weeks later (badly) first of all I’m a lot older than he is, and he has the best surgeons money can buy.

So we have lost Nasri, Cesc and Jack, our entire first choice midfield last season, great and replaced them with whom? 29 year old Arteta.

Well Arsene, if you want to win anything this season you really need to go out and spend some serious money on some world class players because Vermaelen is out as well. Thing is January is still 3 months off, I fear for us, I really do, with the spuds coming up and in form, and with Ade in their team, we could get hammered this weekend.

Now let me talk about Robin, I would offer him an extension, but just an extension, as captain of our club he should sign it, if he doesn’t, leave it at that, by the time his current contract runs out he’ll be 30, and who buys 30 year olds (don’t say we do) so his sell on value will be low, I don’t think it’s worth bribing him to stay if it stops us signing a younger injury free player in his place, don’t get me wrong, I love Robin, but I’m sick of us throwing heaps at players to stay, I’m sick of players refusing to sign contracts and Robin is still a bit of a crock, so for me I would say sign this or we’ll leave it.

We should learn from this window, players like Young and Mata are worth pursuing, players like Park are not. We should go out in the window and sign a few players that will genuinly change our season, players like Hazard and Cahill will make a difference, sign them before someone else does, before we can’t afford them and before our season implodes once again.

Arsene Wenger said this yesterday ‘we paid a heavy price to knock Udinese out of the Champions League, that was very demanding for us’ Well who’s fault was that boss? Had we finished in the top 3 and not collapsed last season we wouldn’t have had to have played Udinese would we???

I love these excuses, all self inflicted and not a hint of blame attached. It’s like qualification was thrown at us and there was no choice.

I hope we play a team tomorrow that will form the nucleus of the team on Sunday and not a young team that will screw up and cost us, remember, we need to win this group otherwise we could be out before the window opens and have no hope of attracting top talent, maybe now we can get Goetze and Schweinsteiger as we now have a top German in the team, that would be neat wouldn’t it!

I would try a forward line of Chamberlain Robin and Gervinho and see what happens, I think it’s clear Park is a dud as he got taken off against Shrewsbury, but he never admits to buying a dud so maybe Park will make an appearance and we” all see why he was bought, you can fantasize all you want, but to be honest beating Spurs still means more to me than most I can think of so straws it is!

Finally on a sad note, a great, great friend of mine, a lifelong Gooner and season ticket holder died yesterday, my thoughts are with his family.

Another loyal fan that never got to see Wenger’s end game, Colin, at least you got to see us beat Bolton!

Have a great day today Grovers, tomorrow we are at home, I never said it was in Greece you liars, given the state of their economy let’s hope they don’t take any of our players hostage and take them back to Greece with them as we are at home! Arsene, get Squillaci and Chamakh on the bench!

P.S. There are spares galore for tomorrow night and I have 3 going for Marseille next week. E-mail for details.

855 Responses to “Jack’s out for the season and Robin refuses to sign a contract. Deja vu anyone?”

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  1. DaleDaGooner

    Every club pays people off, how else will you keep players? I can’t understand the hypocrisy of it, it isn’t like London is crawling with super talents lining up to join Arsenal, how else would you make Cesc sign for 8 years? Money

    Enough said about Adebayor, i don’t know what the fuss is, we’ve played Messi without shitting this much in our pants about one player..get some perspective and don’t leave shit marks on your Fruit of the Loom

    No offence SUGA

  2. SUGA3

    boring, am I?

    if you know that I am 12, why do you ask the fucking question?

    was it a rhetorical question or do you just like to respond to yourself?

    if I were you, I would see a specialist if it’s the latter, you know?

    seriously mate, let it go…

  3. DaleDaGooner

    Mancini said: “He refused to warm up and again refused to go on the pitch. If a player has a lot of money to play for Manchester City … he can’t play, never.”

    Money can’t buy you love…I bet Wenger is schmoking a joint laughing his head off “zee? in England, they buy to solve ze problems, I prefer ze internal zolution”

  4. gambon

    “Who bit you? I hope not Suga3, cause you just sound like him. Young does not want to live in London for personal reasons. If you dont know, then you know it now.”

    Lol, this is embarassingly silly.

    Firstly, the place where Young would spend 90% of his working time, is London Colney, which isnt even in London….its in Herts, where he grew up.

    He would have to spend no more than a few hours per week in London.

    Stop making awful arguments.

  5. Juju

    Suga3,

    Not your english nor ur german did impress me. So keep it for those who value it (like Ricky). Simple question: Did you know that Ashley Young does not want to live in London for personal reasons?

  6. Gooby

    like qualideeee

    SUGA3 it has nothing to do with internal discipline, they’ve been professional until their last game, well at least they appeared professional enough. I can’t remember any major incident in the dressing room like the one with tevez, there’s good atmosphere in general and the players are always behind their manager witch is good.

    transfer are a different issue, there’s money, success, need for a change, development, being home sick bla bla bla

  7. Lurch LeRouge

    boring… is people tearing into each other in a humourless way, if your gonna do it be sensible and make it funny.

    it just smacks of ADD otherwise.

  8. DaleDaGooner

    Hey hey, now, SUGA face Juju who is doing your slapping around, deal? You know Ivory is getting emotional about what i say so don’t make it worse

    I suggest you face your problems with Juju.

    No offence Lurch

  9. SUGA3

    Juju,

    straws, clutching and all that…

    and what were these mysterious ‘personal reasons’?

    please enlighten us, oh wise one, what do we know?

    we are only dumb locals, afterall…

  10. Yippee Kai Yay

    jeez, some of you guys need to take a chll pill, or in dale’s case just remove what’s left of the forntal lobe.

    Surely, now is time for all linking arms and singing sweet songs to each other.

    After all, this time tomorrow it could have all turned to rat shit / paper over cracks time again.

    Until then have some (vomit inducing, though not in a bulimic way) loveliness:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6inwzOooXRU

  11. DaleDaGooner

    I’d like to know SUGA’s take on The Tevez and ADebayor’ report at City, in contrast or comparison. Please do a “write up” on what we have learnt. What if Arsenal had Tevez and paid same wages, and he had the same attitude today, who would you blame?

  12. Yippee Kai Yay

    Juju says:

    September 27, 2011 at 23:11

    Suga3,

    Not your english nor ur german did impress me. So keep it for those who value it (like Ricky)

    Sorry to be a pedant, but it’s ‘neither’ if you are going to use ‘nor’.

    I am assuming the lack of ‘y’ and ‘o’ is a a typo as a result of fists smashing the keyboard inaccurately rather than mis-spelling.

    Here to help.

  13. Juju

    Gambon,

    I appreciate your logic in putting things together, like he is from here and here is not exactly there….

    Fact is that if he plays for any of the London clubs, he will hang out in fucking LONDON. No matter if he trains in Herts, he will be in London.

  14. DaleDaGooner

    LMFAO….OK Yippe…i give you that, that was funny

    “I am assuming the lack of ‘y’ and ‘o’ is a a typo as a result of fists smashing the keyboard inaccurately rather than mis-spelling.

    Here to help.”

  15. incesc

    “under pressure Nottingham Forest boss Steve McClaren went into meltdown with his side 4-0 down at half-time against Burnley. He sat in the dug-out on his own at the interval and ordered his players to stay out on the pitch until the start of the second half. McClaren said “At the end of the day, players cross the white line and they have to be responsible for performance, so yeah we sent them out early at half time.”

    :)

  16. SUGA3

    YKY,

    you know these sausage fingers :lol:

    on the second thought, perhaps ‘Bratwurst fingers’ would be more apt…

    and oh, Juju,

    since you are not impressed with my command of foreign languages, how about you impress me with your Polish?

  17. Ricky

    SUGA3 says:
    September 27, 2011 at 23:10

    Ricky,

    even better!
    ===========

    Ahh mate…. :) I got this crazy thing for polish women.. Some of them are so hot its untrue.. Might have grab some lads & visit next summer & watch some of the footy while we’re there.

    Any recomendations?

  18. IvoryGoonz

    Ricky: on polish women, by own experience, I’d say Polish women are the finest looking women in the world joined with Ukrainian and Iranian

  19. gambon

    Juju,

    I cant be bothered to argue with someone like yourself, its boring arguing with people of low intelligence, especially the ones like you who enjoy making things up.

    However…..Arsenal play about 28 home games per season (in London). As I said we dont train in London, so he would only have to be in London about 28 times in a 40 week season.

    You see how stupid your argument is now?

    Also, if he has a chronic fear of London, why doesnt he refuse to play for England….after all, the Emirates & Wembley are only 10 miles apart???

    Also England train at London Colney & the Grove in Hertfordshire, doesnt seem to have a problem with that does he?

    Oh deary me!!!!!…

  20. Juju

    Ricky,
    Sorry man, apologies to you, didn’t mean to insult you. But thanks for the “mug”.

    Yippee,
    Yes, you got it. English is not my mother tongue, but enough to communicate, unless you expect only perfect English. But thanks for the grammar lessons, i will take it on board. Never too proud to learn. And I am preserving my fists for Suga3′s teeth.

    Any1 else wants to teach me something, I am here to learn English.

  21. Yandi

    Mancini’s festered over a poisonous atmosphere at City. Shocking behaviour by his players week after week. If he’s not defending Balotelli, it’s Carlitos… and now Dzeko. No fucking discipline. You need strong characters in the squad, but this is beyond ridiculous.

    Thought Nasri looked pants. He looked slow and labourous, almost as if he’d gained a kilo or two. He looked nowhere near as lean and sharp as he did in the first few months of 2010/2011. Early days for him at City though…

    incesc has a point, I’d also give a nut for Arsenal to be as disciplined as Bayern were. They also have an exciting attack. They’re a proper Champions League team and contender. They would’ve beaten Arsenal 5-0.

  22. gambon

    Krakow is the nuts

    Apart from when you find numerous payments coming out of the bank a week later for a club called “manhattans”

  23. Juju

    Gambon,

    Do you really think that Herts is a million miles away from London. Just as you said, lets leave it at that. Why to talk to low-lives like me. Right?

  24. Ricky

    SUGA3 says:
    September 27, 2011 at 23:27

    seaside’s Tricity (Gdansk, Gdynia, Sopot) is not half bad either…
    ———————————
    IvoryGoonz says:
    September 27, 2011 at 23:27

    Suga3: too many hookers :)
    ==========

    Sounds like my kinda place IG! :)

    Na, seriously tho mate.. They are different kettle of fish! I love my english girls but once you’ve had a hot polish girl the others take a back seat..

    I’ve gotta start doing my research now cos i dont wanna be missing out come next summer.

  25. Lurch LeRouge

    Juju

    your going to have to elaborate on AY’s personal reasons if you want it admitted into evidence, otherwise it just reads as jury tampering really.

  26. Yandi

    Arsenal haven’t lost to non-English opposition at home in the UEFA Champions League since Internazionale de Milano in 2003. They’ve only lost twice at home since that 3-0 loss. The losses were to Chelsea in 2004 (1-2) and Manchester United (1-3) in 2009.
    ——————————————
    Good record at home in the Champions League

  27. SUGA3

    Juju, Schaetzi, you better preserve your fists to have a good wank…

    people making threats on the web crack me up no end, more often than not this is the only way they can appear ‘tough’…

  28. IvoryGoonz

    Theo Walcott Knee
    Gervinho Muscular
    Laurent Koscielny Ankle
    Sebastien Squillaci Calf
    Jack Wilshere Ankle
    Yossi Benayoun Muscular
    Johan Djourou Muscular
    Thomas Vermaelen Ankle
    Abou Diaby Ankle

    great

  29. Yandi

    ^^^^^That record’s all the more remarkable when you think of the top European opposition we’ve played at home since 2003….

    Some examples…

    Arsenal 1-0 Bayern Munich (2005)
    Arsenal 0-0 Real Madrid (2006)
    Arsenal 2-0 Juventus (2006)
    Arsenal 0-0 AC Milan (2008)
    Arsenal 2-2 Barcelona (2010)
    Arsenal 2-1 Barcelona (2011)

  30. IvoryGoonz

    Ricky: for women depends what you’re after.
    I’d recommend Krakow for a quickie, Poznan for a long-term and Wroclaw for a short-term relationship :)
    (but that’s obviously just generalities and perceived personal experiences).

  31. Ricky

    LMFAO IG!!

    Thats hillarious…

    Where would be best for a semi-short term then? lol

    Just kidding mate. :) Seems like you’ve got it all worked out already though.

    Think i’ll take suga’s advice with krakow for one of my destinations next year for sure..

  32. incesc

    can you imagine what someone like henry or vieira that cared deeply about the game would say to tevez if they were sat next to him on the bench or on the pitch today.

    if reyes even missed a pass henry would look at him like he wanted to fuck him up

    obviously nasri wasnt bothered on the bench next to him, he was probably still trying to work out what £200,000 a week works out per month

  33. Lurch LeRouge

    Nasri looked particularly thick on the bench tonight his little underdeveloped chin was consumed by the lesbian flap beneath it.

  34. Yandi

    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-we-must-accept-selling-out-is-hard

    “We live in a society where life is more difficult for everybody,” said Wenger.

    “And what I told you the other day, we had a combination of us not having started well and people suffering more in daily life. That makes it a bit more difficult.

    “I saw the other day when Chelsea played against Leverkusen – it was not a sell-out. It is more difficult now.”
    ———————————————
    I bet you if the supporters weren’t being made to pay 6,5% more to watch the shit on display we’d sell out a few games. Chelsea aren’t Arsenal, because Arsenal are the biggest club in London and have sold out games for years. Alarm bells should be ringing around the club because a few games in succesion now have gone on general sale. But they won’t. Wenger and Gazidis will lean on the “economic crisis” wall, and if that’s not enough, bury their heads further into each other’s backsides. Sad state of affairs.

  35. Lurch LeRouge

    Incesc,

    Sky showed Tevez approaching the team bus, Viera was standing by the door and Tevez went to make conversation before boarding, Viera just turned his back to him.

    Such a shame Viera’s getting tainted by that lot.

  36. incesc

    yeah i saw that.

    bit devastating that vieiras turned his back on the club now but i guess wenger did sell him to italy behid his back.

  37. incesc

    Yandi

    its worrying that arsenal fans arent turning up because we are a pretty loyal bunch

    and we are getting bigger attendances thean everyone than man u but we should be selling out that stadium every game considering how big our fanbase is.

  38. SUGA3

    now, since our ‘insider’ does not want to share his precious info, does anyone want to take a stab at guessing what that horrible trauma keeping AY out of London could be?

    is it anywhere near as bad as the one suffered by Tubbs and Edward’s son locked upstairs?

  39. IvoryGoonz

    Lurch: have a good memory of women in Italy too :) and I’d definitely have to take you to some places on the coast, you’d love it.

  40. SUGA3

    the fact that Marseille away tix were made available to red members says a lot…

    what is more, they are not yet sold out and there are quite a few spares offered on Tw*tter!

  41. Lurch LeRouge

    The LG sex tour of europe has its appeal.

    but lets not allow Keyser & Dale to feel unwelcome….

    Swiftly followed by the LG KFC tour of USA.

  42. IvoryGoonz

    Lurch: definitely. Let’s do an arsenal orientated research tour in all international european capitals of beauty and culture.

  43. OPG

    on Jack Wilshere being fit for the Euros…
    “Yes, I don’t have any worries for that. He will be 12 weeks in a boot and after that it is rehab. That 12 weeks brings us to around Christmas. If all goes well, you would think he will be fit again to play in half the time you are in the boot – six weeks. Count 10 to be closer to the truth, so it’s 22 weeks to be capable to play football again.”

    Don’t worry we have the quality and Diaby is back soon who hasn’t played since the summer, truthfully nobody comes near level of talent and influence in the team even at his age.
    It seems more injuries are happening for whatever reason but the season hasn’t even begun to get busy and crucial yet.

    Last night had a interesting round of CL fixtures even for the Group Stage don’t expect much from tonight though. It’ll be interesting if Dortmund can get 3 points and Marseille though and Mata back in Valencia.

  44. OPG

    Stuck with who with have for now though despite the way the summer was run unfortunately, it’s just that the volume of injuries at times is questionable we couldn’t cope last season as it was even with Cesc still around.

  45. bade the gooner (bernard)

    FFS,

    i had a bumper dope yesterday, i got up when all the CL fun and the fun on here was over……

    oh what a miss!

    to miss mancs draw Bazel at home, or $ity outplayed at Bayern? oh shit……some people more lucky that others…..

  46. IvoryGoonz

    Apparently Miquel got injured in pre-match yesterday with the Reserves.
    With Vermaelen, Koscielny and Djourou out, we are left with Mertesacker and…. Squillaci.

  47. TonyT

    Morning all,

    Ivory you do spend like 18 hrs a day on here don’t you!

    What a great thing it is to see that it is not only Arsenal players that has a short attention span but also ManU players too (although i have to admit that our players suffer from a much more serious case of ADD.. :P

    Also I have to comment on Tevez, my god what a prick, I get paid 0.5% of what he does and i do my job whether I feel good or bad or sick or ill or depressed or even suicidal, how can he think that he can decide when to do his job. basing his choice on his ‘mental state’… what a tw*nt!

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