Good morning Knights of the Grove table… last night was international night and I actually put myself through a very entertaining England game.
I’m quite excited about the future of English football. It feels like possibly the most vulgar, disconnected England side of the past 50 years is finally on its way out and there seems to be a number of exciting players are making their way to the first team. There is a real danger I might actually start finding myself interested in International competition!
I thought Ghana made a good account of themselves last night, they’re incredibly aggressive off the ball and they can string a few passes together. I thought they were slightly cumbersome on the ball and a touch wasteful in the final third but their energy and passion was fantastic to watch. I really like Muntari, he’s the sort of player we should be looking at. He’s been outed by Inter Milan, he’s looking for an opportunity on the big stage again and he’d be welcome competition for Alex ‘I don’t fancy it’ Song. Imagine his height shielding the back four next year?
I’m also a huge fan of Gyan. He’s like Thierry Henry lite… he’s pacey, inventive and he’s not too shabby in front of goal. He’s also a work horse to boot. I think he could do a job out wide and he’s creative enough in the middle to take on players… something you can’t say of Chamakh. Ayew looked a handful as well… I think United are sniffing around him, so that’ll be an interesting transfer story this summer.
For England, I thought there were some strong performances. Jack Wilshere zipped the ball around with ease. He really suits that number 8 shirt and it’s exciting to see the future of English football is a player who wears the red and white of Arsenal. Ashley Young was also impressive out wide, if we ever needed a classic English winger, he’d be our man. He’s more in the mould of Marc Overmars than a Bobby P, but dangerous all the same.
I was also very pleased to see Cahill introducing himself back onto the International scene with a very solid display. I find it cringe worthy how snobby Arsenal fans are about English players. Unless they’ve been snared from a sleepy village in France for an astronomical fee, many don’t want to know. It’s like the fans now get off on Arsene taking massive risks with unknowns. I mentioned last night via twitter that I liked Cahill and someone said,
‘Not for £20million.’
Jeez, some people need to get over themselves! He’s worth whatever the market dictates, which last time I checked was not £20million, or the £30million some people have been touting just to dirty the proposition of signing him.
The fact is, he’s Premiership ready, he’s the right age, he attacks the ball in the box and he has great positional awareness. Not to mention the pace he has… my gosh is he quick! I think he’s a class act and I think there is a very high chance we’ll nick him in the summer. In a defence like ours, 4 top defenders is perfect and like Geoff alluded to the other day, throw in Miquel and Bartley as back up and we’ve got more than enough cover for a typical Arsenal year!
In other international news, Robin Van Persie went off injured. Apparently he took a knock to the knee but in the professional opinion of Burt Van Mareaknvrenvajfd, he should be ok for the Arsenal game this Saturday.
So bloody good news there! He also scored I believe. Even more bloody good news!
The rest of the International review can be completed by you lot in the comments, I hear our Aussie Grover’s have something to sh0ut about this morning and it’s not a double episode of Neighbours…
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Parker could come if West Ham… errr.. when the West Ham get relegated.
But since he is English, will be the wrong side of 30, and Wenger has Song, Denilson, and Frimpong, we’ll never sign him because I guarantee he feels we are “set” for that position for the next decade.
Sorry KM. Perhaps I was a tad out of order.
But all the recent controversies time and time again with Pakistan really gets to me.
Marko says:
March 30, 2011 at 16:55
Asamoah and Annan are better than Muntari
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Those two had pretty good games. Annan is a player I would like to see more of.
Why would anyone advocate a 25 million pound signing of a defender like Cahill? He is not that bloody good. If I wanted to sign him, a bid of £13-15 million is the highest I would go. We can get better centre backs for around that price abroad.
The main attraction would be “English and PL experience” but I think that both elements are vastly overrated. I will be watching more of Cahill’s games to see if he improves at some point, as the potential is there, I will not doubt that. But of what I had previously seen, he is so average it’s hilarious that all these Arsenal fans and even ex=Arsenal players are licking his balls with glee so much.
Hopefully he lives up to all the hype everyone is giving him. I however doubt that Wenger would pay 20-25 million for an English defender. If he did bid, it would be around 15 million tops, and I feel that would be accurate, but still very steep. Such is the inflated EPL transfer market these days. No wonder Wenger is such a tight git. Hopefully our academy will start to produce more gems. They REALLY need a new fitness regime though, this is the biggest problem at Arsenal IMO.
Dream10 Arse—- Wenger has been taking everyone for a ride last 2 years. Yeah we give him 4 years for the fruition of his experiment which was commendable . But since his personal predilections have swerved his focus it is time we see he is taking Arsenal for a merry ride. And at least the fans raise a revolt of boycot until the Arse—- knows that his obfuscations are wrong and must be upturned. SO GO FOR GARRY
“Why would anyone advocate a 25 million pound signing of a defender like Cahill? He is not that bloody good. If I wanted to sign him, a bid of £13-15 million is the highest I would go.”
This is the funniest, yet most retarded thing ive ever heard.
I feel u sucre(I was on a wind up) but u see the point I have been trying to make for 2 yeras now is that no one has the balls to tell him to either win us stuff or take a walk. Now the reason the board wont do so is obvious…but are you of the opinion that the fans can’t or rather shouldn’t?
We can call him all the names we want or wish for every good player under thge sun but it won’t change anything. You see pepole are quick to say that any form of protest won’t work or achieve results but I tell you, If Wenger knows that a sizeable number of fans publicly are criticising him, and paraventure the number grows, honestly we will see the changes we want or he may leave the club.
say 50 fans protest outside the stadium on a home game and say we loose that home game due to the regular reasons, you shouldn’t be suprised if the number of protesters grow on the next home game and the next. His hand and that of the board will be forced if at the build of a game at the grove there happens to be say a quarter of the fans that are supposed to be inside the stadium outside with placards and banners asking for obvious change.
We’ve tried being keyboard warriors and it hasn’t worked …lets try something else and then know for sure that it wouldn’t work.
I believe le-grove can be the best medium to start this concept, but sadly pedro and geoff do not agree.
Diaby in terms of ability alone is an amazing player, he is by no means shit. His problem comes from the fact that his concentration in games is poorer than Denilsons. I feel that is something that can be worked out, but is hard when you get injured a lot. I for one would still be very disappointed to see him go but I understand the frustration towards him, just not the hatred.
Rosicky and Bendtner leaving, wouldn’t be that bothered.
The obsession with british players is sickening. I’d rather get some of those powerful french defensive midfielders than waste time trying to get Parker, who I doubt would leave West Ham unless they get relegated, they would price everyone out (bar City & United, and they won’t need him)
Gervinho is great, but maybe we don’t need him? Not sure we do, unless he likes the bench.
gambon says:
March 30, 2011 at 17:47
“Why would anyone advocate a 25 million pound signing of a defender like Cahill? He is not that bloody good. If I wanted to sign him, a bid of £13-15 million is the highest I would go.”
This is the funniest, yet most retarded thing ive ever heard.
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LOL laugh all you want, I still think he’s overrated. I would NEVER pay 25 million for that guy.
Balotelli’s record is brilliant for sure but he’s got a chip on his shoulder that just wont go away so no go for me.
Black hand… so a Premiership trophy isn’t worth a Premium on a player that will stay with us for the rest of his career?
Thing is you could probably get Thiago Silva or Pepe for about the price you’d pay for Cahill and he is not as good as those two players. So why should we pay 25 million for someone just cause they’ve an english passport when someone like Sahko, Verthongan, Zapata or one of the numerous better german defenders would be better and slightly cheaper.
He’s not being touted for £25million either…
I would love Balotelli at the Arsenal but the guys only got 1 brain cell.
Too much baggage.
YABBY DABBA DOOO……
I will reiterate
Cahill did have a good game last night, and was impressive in a number of aspects, but this is one of only a few performances I have seen where he has impressed. I am still not convinced, but like I said, I do hope sincerely that I am proved wrong and that if he does come to Arsenal he turns out to be a good player for us.
That’s if Wenger wants to sign him. Coyle asked for £20 million lol. If we signed him, and god forbid he turned out to be a multi-million pound flop, what then?
A lot of retarded talk about £25m fees.
You hit the nail on the head Pedro….lots of snobbish fans who like their manager, are obsessed with foreign names & have a real issue with english players.
Would cahill have embarassed himdelf like Koscielny did against Birmingham?
Would he fuck.
Any update on RVP yet ?
Thats the biggest problem for me on him is the price if we could get him for 13-15 million then fine but if we’re willing to pay 20-25 million for him then why not get Pepe or Thiago Silva or Hummels or Subotic who absolutely piss on the abilities of one Gary Cahill
“and god forbid he turned out to be a multi-million pound flop, what then?”
Koscielny is a £10m flop…..what now?
Squillaci is a £5m flop……what now?
Fuck it only four home games left
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Pedro says:
March 30, 2011 at 17:56
Black hand… so a Premiership trophy isn’t worth a Premium on a player that will stay with us for the rest of his career?
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I didn’t say that. It certainly would be worth a premium on a player that stays with us. However, I personally doubt that Cahill is such a player. Like I said, I hope he proves me wrong if he signs here. We will see….
Marko says:
March 30, 2011 at 17:56
Thing is you could probably get Thiago Silva or Pepe for about the price you’d pay for Cahill and he is not as good as those two players. So why should we pay 25 million for someone just cause they’ve an english passport when someone like Sahko, Verthongan, Zapata or one of the numerous better german defenders would be better and slightly cheaper.
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This is exactly my point. I do happen to watch football from overseas, and I believe that these defenders in question are of better quality and available at better prices. The only drawback that I can see would be that they “don’t have PL experience” but I feel that is not a big deal at all, and is only applicable for some players.
In fact, it raises a pretty good question. What is more of a risk?
20 million plus on a PL defender who is (in my opinion) average?
Or £10-15 million on a quality defender from overseas with no PL experience?
I’m not snobbish I just don’t buy into the whole we need english brute force or whatever to win things or the implication if they’re not english then they make shite defenders. In fact it says alot about the english national team that no one’s been able to displace Ferdinand or Terry as number one and two best defenders cause in my opinion those two much like Lampard and Gerrard aren’t as good as they were. Which is to be expected due to their age
YES
YES
YES
YES
YES
Koscielny with one season of top flight football in france before he joined us for 10 million has played 35 odd matches for us this season and has been basically injury free this season and yes he’s made some mistakes but thats to be expected in his first season in english football. I don’t think you can call him a flop can you. Squillaci most certainly.
HINDUSTAN ZINDABAD……
Kushagra India says:
March 30, 2011 at 18:14
YES
YES
YES
YES
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Having an orgasm Kushagra?
Sorry KM Bhai.
Marko says:
March 30, 2011 at 18:09
I’m not snobbish I just don’t buy into the whole we need english brute force or whatever to win things or the implication if they’re not english then they make shite defenders. In fact it says alot about the english national team that no one’s been able to displace Ferdinand or Terry as number one and two best defenders cause in my opinion those two much like Lampard and Gerrard aren’t as good as they were. Which is to be expected due to their age
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You posted everything I wanted to say lol. I don’t have an issue with signing English players either, but I dislike the over-inflated prices of them when we can get better alternatives outside the Premier League. Granted, the jury’s out on Koscielny (insult me all you want Gambon, I have no interest in petty keyboard wars lol, just a friendly discussion) and Squilaci was a panic buy that has failed so far. Is Cahill REALLY the best option? If you feel so, then that’s fine. But I’m not too sure about that.
Finally after years of agony we get to final …hell yeah…BOOM BOOM BOOM
gooner786
Congratulations Indian grovers!
Thiago Silva plays for Milan….realistic? No
Pepe plays for Madrid…..realistic? No
Vertonghen is a lefty, Wenger will not sign a lefty as we have Vermaelen.
Sakho…much prefer Cahill.
Zapata…no, flatters to decieve, better at full back.
yes yes wish Arsnal had a captain like Dhoni what a legend ……..
it’s not ‘snobbery’ it’s called ‘value for money’…
“no one’s been able to displace Ferdinand or Terry as number one and two ”
Erm and how many trophies have these 2 won in the last 6 years???
Erm….
???
Marko.
I agree but lets play devils advocate here……
Koscielny in the games I’ve watched this season has shown he has the potential to be a great defender. However, I will admit that for someone we paid 10 million pounds for, there are quite a few moments when he has shown the indecisiveness of…….well, a French 2nd division player lol. He’s obviously got the ability+potential there, but was that a gamble too far for Arsene?
Pakis threw the game. Took bribes.
Crackers festival in the country….what a day…..
Thanks Lurch Ga…Hard luck pakistan friends…Great game….But it has to be sachins worldcup inshallah….C`mon India
Lurch thanx a tonne mate Pakis played their heart out ,Captaincy proved to be the difference….
Umar Gul let Pakistan down.
SUGA3 says:
March 30, 2011 at 18:19
it’s not ‘snobbery’ it’s called ‘value for money’…
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^^the truth.
OK then, let us clarify a few things from the “pro-Cahill” camp.
What is it about Cahill that makes you think he will be great for us? What is the actual price that is being touted for him, and why is he worth it?
I would really like to know, as of what I have seen this season, I am not convinced, so I would like to know why I am allegedly wrong?
(on this instance, I’m not bothered about being right or wrong, what I am bothered about is the success of Arsenal Football Club)
Arsenal watching Juan Mata
http://thegoonblog.com/2011/03/arsenal-watching-juan-mata/
I’m not saying Terry and Ferdinand were always shite but for the last 2 years they have been getting significantly worse and that to be expected they’re coming towards the end of their careers. Vidic is by far the better defender at United now and at Chelsea Luiz is becoming the main guy and you’ve an argument for Alex or Ivanovic too.
Here’s just a list of players who are better than Cahill and are of similiar value or cheaper:
Sahko
Verthongan (I don’t get how we can only have one left footed defender but 3 right footed ones)
Howedes
Hummels
Westermann
Zapata
Godin
Thiago Silva (realistic? Maybe)
Of the ones listed the most realistic ones are the top 3.
Again all this is just my opinion.
Black Hand
Hes quick, good on the ball & big/strong.
He reads the game well & is a natural defender.
He’s just turned 25, and has 200 career games behind him, and is an international.
He has vast PL experience, and has faced the likes of UTD, Chelsea, City twice every season for 4 years.
He has Koscielnys strengths, but lacks his weakness.
He would cost about £15-16m probably. Its a lot of money, but we need a good CB, and he is that.
gambon says:
March 30, 2011 at 18:18
Thiago Silva plays for Milan….realistic? No
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agree
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Pepe plays for Madrid…..realistic? No
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agree
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Vertonghen is a lefty, Wenger will not sign a lefty as we have Vermaelen.
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Also, I agree, although would he be automatic 1st choice?
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Sakho…much prefer Cahill.
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Disagree. Sakho is a captain who is quick, strong, works hard, tackles well, and has the most intuitive positional sense I have seen in a young defender who is only 21. He would be a great investment IMO.
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Zapata…no, flatters to decieve, better at full back.
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He is better at full back, but his versatility could be useful, and the fact he is both footed and very strong are god factors. I do agree to a small extent though.
sorry but that game looked very dodgy to me, Sachin dropped on 4 occasions?, followed by the worst innings partnership from 2 VERY experienced batsmen…. HMMMM
even the commentators were lost for an explanation – not a single person commentator could mention the elephant stood on the corner of the wicket.
well done India, but that looked rigged.
“Here’s just a list of players who are better than Cahill and are of similiar value or cheaper”
Just LOLOLOL.
“(I don’t get how we can only have one left footed defender but 3 right footed ones)”
Well…let me spell it out.
Wenger wont play two leftys. Vermalelen wont sit on the bench, Vertonghen wouldnt sit on the bench.
Look if signing Cahill meant Djourou and TV were 1 and 2 and Cahill and Kozzer were 3 and 4 then great we’re 4 absolute solid defenders and some flexible pairings too but if we were signing Cahill to be a star centre back signing and to pick defenders around him then he’s not for me that for me is someone like Hummels or Sahko or whoever. Thats the thing about his price Bolton are looking for world class centre back type money as opposed to very good/potentially great money.
pak losing in wcup semis
goodness me first carling cup, then chmp league then fa cup now pak world cup I am so sad
gambon says:
March 30, 2011 at 18:33
Black Hand
Hes quick, good on the ball & big/strong.
He reads the game well & is a natural defender.
He’s just turned 25, and has 200 career games behind him, and is an international.
He has vast PL experience, and has faced the likes of UTD, Chelsea, City twice every season for 4 years.
He has Koscielnys strengths, but lacks his weakness.
He would cost about £15-16m probably. Its a lot of money, but we need a good CB, and he is that.
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OK. You seem to have seen more of him than I have. I only started watching his performances closely after everyone said we should sign him. Like I said, I do hope I am wrong, and will be watching more of his games. He doesn’t seem to be that great when it comes to crosses, but he is a very good tackler. £15 million is a more reasonable price than the one I was hearing. I only remember when Coyle said he wanted £20 million for him, I nearly spilt my bottle of Supermalt lool.
He does seem to read the game pretty well, but I have seen him get caught cold a few times. That could just be because he plays for Bolton, but I was concerned that so many fans wanted him here when what I saw was some decent but not particularly commanding defensive performances like some were suggesting he was capable of.
Juan Mata is said to have been scouted by us, maybe a Rosicky replacement. Hazard might not be the player we are after, it could be Mata…..opinions?
gambon,
everything is fine, but please, an international?
with a substitution when Dawson got injured and a couple of friendlies under his belt?
Lurch that’s how Misbah has played throughout his career block,block and then gungho leaves a lot to chance …on dropped catches they have dropped them throughout the WC …but still reached the WC semis…..
Lurch Match fixing against India is too much a risk…can be life threatening…
Cahill’s an international? Does training with the national team and not playing make you an international? I still don’t get the notion that we can only have 1 left footed defender and 3 right footed ones what 2 righties can play together but 2 lefties is where it stops. And I thought my list was very valid Sahko is better or at the very least by 25 will be miles better than Cahill is now, Howedes would leave Schalke in the summer if someone went in for him cause they’re struggling, Verthongan has indicated he’d listen to offers in the summer.
http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2011/03/arsenal-sign-swedish-midfielder-olsson/
and the pitch wasn’t easy to bat on everyone struggled….
Howedes is a real hard face defender. Not sure he would be good at Arsenal, probably somewhere else.
Cahill is barely an international with 3 caps. Having said that, I’ve been singing Sakhos praises, and currently he only has 2 france caps lool.
Well, what is certain IMO is that we will most certainly need another defender, especially if Miquel and Bartley are not ready yet (and I suspect not, even though Bartley is very promising).
And if we throw Cahill, Sakho et all, in the mix, 15 million for one of them should do it.
Didnt we all have this discussion last night. Cahill isnt world class, isnt great just average but he is miles better than what we have.
We’ve tried foreingers. Its failed spectacularly. Lets get a steady eddie who knows who to tackle and & header. For heavens sake Spuds get by with Dawson.
As for value for money Koz – £9m – paid 50% too much.
Squid – £5m – paid 80% too much.
Cahill @ £15m probably 20% too much even in this inflated market. But thats relatively value for money.
I would absolutely love Juan Mata at Arsenal he’s super and arguably better than David Silva, certainly much more of a goal threat.
nite all….back to Arsenal at the weekend
……have a gr8 one…..
cesc, song and mr theo are back
Marko, Cahill played last night, so he’s an international.
Not sure what makes you think Sakho is better than Cahill. He’s playing in a poor league for a team that has the 8th worst defensive record.
I think sometimes people just get off on the fact someone is foreign…
Pak players out of world cup but larfing all the way to the bank.
They do it in all world cups. 1999 Final against Aus was a disgrace.
same here marko.
in World Cups Inda 5-0 Pakistan
Great deserved win for India.
Pakistan weren’t too shabbt as well. They could well have knicked were it not for some poor shot selection and some tactical decisions.
Sounds like a cricket score Kush. Sorry.
Don’t think the match was fixed either.
Mata has got a fantastic through ball, and is quick and scores goals. Would be a great signing from Arsene. Quite similar to how Rosicky used to be. Replacement beckons it seems…..
Hitman is on the ball to an extent. Kos has the raw ingredients to be great, just that his cock-ups are highly noticeable and won’t help his detractors that say he is a gamble. I’m not one of his detractors, but I notice these errors and it frustrates me greatly, as he does do great things as a defender.
Squilaci as I said is a panic buy that failed to work. He hasn’t been at the races at all this season, looks way too cumbersome.
Cahill at 15 million is a little over what I would pay for him, but again, in this shitty market with overpriced players, its a reasonable enough price.
Sachin has played in all of them this is Sachin’s World Cup really everything is conspiring to help him achieve this….
Pedro says:
March 30, 2011 at 18:59
Marko, Cahill played last night, so he’s an international.
Not sure what makes you think Sakho is better than Cahill. He’s playing in a poor league for a team that has the 8th worst defensive record.
I think sometimes people just get off on the fact someone is foreign…
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I watch French football, and although PSG have had problems, Sakho has done very well there. He is probably too young to be captain, but is often praised for his game and his mentality towards it.
With regards to your comment, I could easily say the same about some people on here with regards to English players……
But I try not to, because “it’s about the players ability, not his passport”.
Yeah, how great would it be for him to get his 100th century at his home ground in Bombay in a World Cup final. Absolutely sensational.
Marko
I don’t agree with the 2 leftys thing, but wenger is on record as saying its not an option.
As for the “sakho will be better at 25″ – that’s been our problem for years, always planning for the future while ignoring here and now.
Pedro, you’re right, people do think people will be better cos they’re from a foreign league.
Pedro says:
March 30, 2011 at 18:59
Marko, Cahill played last night, so he’s an international.
Not sure what makes you think Sakho is better than Cahill. He’s playing in a poor league for a team that has the 8th worst defensive record.
I think sometimes people just get off on the fact someone is foreign…
I actually feel the same about some people getting off on an english player. From what I’ve seen on Sahko he looks good and potentially will be world class and whereas Cahill coming in would probably restrict Djourou as less prominant in the pecking order Sahko I don’t think would.
There is all this talk, however, is Wesley Snedijer not a player people would like to see at Arsenal or possiblly Mesut Ozil?
More English Players Please Arsenal.
Love the way Arsenal fans don’t think players like Cahill are worth £20M and that we should only bid £12M etc.
Regardless Arsenal FC will still put up the prices, still be the most expensive team to watch and still treat it’s fans like the mugs they are.
Oh and despite having won 13 English Titles, X English FA Cups and playing in the English league for 125 years they won’t even fly a St George or let you bring one into the stadium.
What a bunch of c**ts.
Super news, we’ve signed a 15 year old swede.
We are really going for it now aren’t we – 16 year old Toral Harper, The German kid last week, 2 18 year olds in January.
What a fucking joke.
Gambon I hear ya and agree to a certain extent but rather for me the problem has been when so and so is out and the quality in reserve, TV, Djourou, Sahko and Kozzer for example would be 4 young defenders with different solid attributes and certainly there’s 4 different combinations that could work together well whereas Cahill with the price he’d command would come in expecting first choice and to have the defense built around him in my opinion. If we were signing him as 3rd choice then fine but if we we’re gonna go all out to solve our defensive problems then I personally don’t think it’s him.
The experiment continue’s !!
The only english players out there that I think we should pay anywhere near 20 million for is Rodwell and maybe Ashley Young maybe. The signing of Franny Jeffers was what done me all those years ago
Marko, because it’s not like Wenger has signed and foreign duds is it?
Signed another 15 year old. Our academy is stocked bloody full!!!
Cue drama queens: “ANOTHER 15 YEAR OLD! WENGER OUT!! CUNT! FRENCH!…..” amongst other things
Q: Is it true Wenger has only signed 6 English players in 14/15 years?
Theo Walcott
Jermaine Pennant
Richard Wright
Francis Jeffers
Matthew Upson
Sol Campbell
Surely there has to be more? Disgraceful.
Marko
I would want Cahill as first choice. I think him and tv would be a very solid & long term partnership.
Yeah Kush I know its life threatening – the last Pakistani coach to have a go at his team for match fixing got murdered – even that was fixed as a suicide!
Nite.
St George’s flags are for chavs.
Sorry but that’s one policy that has to be applauded.
BHN,
I’m sorry mate, but we need another 15 year old like a second arsehole…
Yeah that’s right Hitman. How fkin are some people?
Marko says:
March 30, 2011 at 19:28
The only english players out there that I think we should pay anywhere near 20 million for is Rodwell and maybe Ashley Young maybe. The signing of Franny Jeffers was what done me all those years ago
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I think the overpricing of English players has pissed Wenger off, as I’m sure he would probably sign more English players if it were not the case. It is often why we structure our deals so we pay an initial fee plus add-ons and installments. Hence the fee is almost always “undisclosed”. Walcott was said to be bought at 9-12 million overall, thats a lot for a 16 year old. That Oxlade-Chamberlain kid will command a similar fee.
This is why they often come across as overrated.
6 signings?
Hitman,
I am Polish, but I reckon it’s wrong not to allow English flag inside the English stadium…
anyone trying to remove a Polish flag at a Polish stadium would get his head kicked in!
Overated where as Denilson, Squill, Almunia, Kos, Bend, Vela, Eboue, etcetcetcetcetcetcetcetcetc are not?
TY SUGA3 – The English have no identity and if you stand up for the flag you are 1. Chav 2. Racist.
It’s total fckin bullshit.
SUGA3 says:
March 30, 2011 at 19:34
BHN,
I’m sorry mate, but we need another 15 year old like a second arsehole…
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It doesn’t matter IMO. People draw too much attention to it to justify their criticisms towards the current approach to transfers. I personally am indifferent to the youth signings with regards to 1st team matters, as I consider the two completely seperate. The world doesn’t stop turning, we are still gonna sign young players to the academy every year, it should not be a big deal at all.
Hitman why is a St George flag different from any other nationality’s flag?
6 SIGNINGS!? FFS
Gambon would you not prefer Howedes and Vermaelen or Hummels and Vermaelen is what I’m getting down to. Thats what this whole argument is about if we’re gonna sign some massive cunt of a defender then why not someone better than Gary Cahill.
Joppa,
I came to the UK about 6 years ago and I have the utmost respect for this country!
and I can see exactly where the ‘St George flag waving racist chavs’ are coming from with regards to a few subjects
BHN,
we have been through this countless times with A, this is the most bizarre theory: do we have some kind of bottomless cash coffer to spend on yoof players and on yoof players alone?
no?
Joppa says:
March 30, 2011 at 19:37
Overated where as Denilson, Squill, Almunia, Kos, Bend, Vela, Eboue, etcetcetcetcetcetcetcetcetc are not?
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Their combined value comes up to not much more than 20 million. Whether they are good or not, they were certainly not overpriced. Bendtner actually was in our academy.
Denilson, Almunia and Squilacci are players I would definitely sell though without hesitation. Eboue and Bendtner……….would keep them, but I would sell them for a decent price if I had the choice.
Did you guys see this? Taking a dead man to the game in a coffin. Genius.
Theo Walcott
Jermaine Pennant
Richard Wright
Francis Jeffers
Matthew Upson
Sol Campbell
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Name_arsene_wenger_english_signings#ixzz1I6pI5vrD
Just saw an article saying Arsenal are currently interested in signing 5 english players – Soctt Parker, Joe Hart, Jack Rodwell, Gary Cahill and Joe Cole…why in gods name would Arsenal sign Joe Cole, the man has been terrible the past number of seasons
LOL…I meant this link.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3498918/Cristofer-Jacome-watches-local-team-Cucuta-Deportivo-even-though-hes-dead.html
NEWSFLASH: Sometimes you have to pay big bucks to get real quality.
dma,
mentioning Hart and Cole strips this article of ANY credibility…
next!
gambon says:
March 30, 2011 at 18:02
A lot of retarded talk about £25m fees.
Would cahill have embarassed himdelf like Koscielny did against Birmingham?
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Go easy on them Gambon.
International Break makes the brain doll at-times
Rodwell.
Now that is a kid I would absolutely break the bank for at Arsenal
SUGA3 says:
March 30, 2011 at 19:45
Joppa,
I came to the UK about 6 years ago and I have the utmost respect for this country!
and I can see exactly where the ‘St George flag waving racist chavs’ are coming from with regards to a few subjects
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I’ve lived in England all my life, and I agree with the notion of St George flag waving racist chavs lol. Being a black man, I don’t have a lot of love for those people loool.
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BHN,
we have been through this countless times with A, this is the most bizarre theory: do we have some kind of bottomless cash coffer to spend on yoof players and on yoof players alone?
no?
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I imagine not, but consider that most of those players are usually never signed for massive amounts of money, so I’m guessing that the club can handle it. The question is not one I can fully answer as I do not work for Arsenal lol, however, I still don’t see the big deal there.
David,
second that, Rodwell, Ramsey, Wilshere, now that’s what I call a midfield!
BHN,
I don’t like mindless nationalism, but I used the quotes for a reason: there are a lot of people that love their country who are being branded as such by the leftie PC bleeding hearts and I think it’s completely wrong…
would you say £4M spent on D******n is a small amount? or £9M on Theo? they were kids back then, you know…
silly money if you think about Sp*ds buying VdV for £8M, eh?
Rodwell I would certainly pay heavy money for. Got the versatility and the intelligence to play in this team.
Not many English players I would sign to Arsenal but there are a few I would like….
two midfields:
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—-Nasri———–Cesc——
———–Rodwell————
——LJW———–Ramsey—-
fucking dog’s bollocks, both of them!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNP6gOMuBP0
SUGA3 says:
March 30, 2011 at 20:03
BHN,
I don’t like mindless nationalism, but I used the quotes for a reason: there are a lot of people that love their country who are being branded as such by the leftie PC bleeding hearts and I think it’s completely wrong…
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Agreed, nothing wrong with loving your country. I’m no leftie either. (I would not like to talk about my politcal views on here).
Sometimes it’s too easy to paint them all with the BNP/EDL brush, and I don’t do it, as I wouldn’t like to be tainted with the “criminal on benefits” brush either.
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would you say £4M spent on D******n is a small amount? or £9M on Theo? they were kids back then, you know…
silly money if you think about Sp*ds buying VdV for £8M, eh?
—————————————————–Well, Denilson when he came was actually good in his first season whenever he played. I don’t know what has happened since then. (btw, it was 3 million i think).
As for VDV, that was pure fluke, I don’t think anyone was expecting that.
”I’ve had four years at Toulouse, four years in which I have really progressed. Maybe it’s time for me to look elsewhere. Maybe a new challenge is needed for me to reach the next level,” Moussa Sissoko is on his way out. Maybe us?
BHN,
I sure was not, and I really found myself fuming that Wenger missed this bargain and that the Spud cunts got him!
with regards to BNP, I met Nick Griffin once and cut his solicitor in half: trying to earn some brownie points he went ‘Polish? You’re flooding this country’
to which I responded with a smile: ‘It would be extremely difficult for me to disagree with you, sir’
he just did not know what to say next, even Griffin had the right ol’ chuckle behind his back
Marko says:
March 30, 2011 at 20:15
”I’ve had four years at Toulouse, four years in which I have really progressed. Maybe it’s time for me to look elsewhere. Maybe a new challenge is needed for me to reach the next level,” Moussa Sissoko is on his way out. Maybe us?
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Hopefully. Wonder what Toulouse would charge?
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/moussa-sissoko/profil/spieler_46001.html
2 years left on his contract, but Toulouse would probably want to cash in quite a bit…
upwards of £15M, methinks…
SUGA3 says:
March 30, 2011 at 20:19
BHN,
I sure was not, and I really found myself fuming that Wenger missed this bargain and that the Spud cunts got him!
with regards to BNP, I met Nick Griffin once and cut his solicitor in half: trying to earn some brownie points he went ‘Polish? You’re flooding this country’
to which I responded with a smile: ‘It would be extremely difficult for me to disagree with you, sir’
he just did not know what to say next, even Griffin had the right ol’ chuckle behind his back
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LOL. Nick Griffin is hilarious. He pretends to be much smarter and articulate than he actually is. He is a fool, makes Boris Johnson look like a competent orator.
With regards to VDV, Wenger was sleeping on the job there unfortunately, I’m sure had he known he would get a player like that from Real Madrid for so little, he would’ve bought him without hesitation.
van der Vaart, if he came to us would be looking for a first team spot and playing week in week out.
He’d be occupying the role Cesc plays in really..
In hindsight, we could well say we should have gotten him, but at the time, not many were looking for us to get someone like van der Vaart.
Yeah Rodwell is top class, maybe as a future cb for us?
I’d say slightly less:
Club president Olivier Sadran added: ”He has had a very average season. For him to go (where he wants) would take a disproportionate offer.Regarding his current performances, I doubt he will be able to move.”.
It seems he’s become a bit stagnant but that shouldn’t put us off signing him he doesn’t become a bad player overnight
Hmmm. Wenger could get him for £13m probably. Nasri prices…..it would be worth a shot.
Suga
Griffin was right, tuck off back to Krakow.
BHN,
using the picture of a Polish Spitfire in their ‘Battle of Britain’ campaign was quite funny
Nigel Farage, now that is a speaker!
gambon,
personally, I would rather play him in DM…
gambon,
first and foremost it was not Griffin, but his cunt lapdog solicitor…
secondly, I would deport quite a number of my countrymen myself
finally, how was Krakow?
We definately won’t be signing Sissoko.
Suga
Great city, quiet by day, then just seedy after dark, like soho.
Went to auschwitz before Crawley vs utd, which was a bit depressing, especially after 1 hours sleep.
yeah, Auschwitz is something else…
the old Krakow is really nice, but I would not recommend other areas after dark
I suppose Frimpong will be back yeah.
Any examples of a stand out Cahill performance against a quality striker?
Or is a 100 odd games as a mid table centre back sufficient to break our transfer record for?
Tbf if we signed Cahill, Rodwell, Hazard & a Bendtner replacement I would be an akb.
For about an hour.
Cescs,
haha, I am finding myself agreeing with you for once
Cescs
Koscielny has been taken apart by anyone & everyone this season. Djourou has had 10 good games in his Arsenal career, vermaelen was the lynchpin of a shite defence last season.
Should we sell them all?
ROdwell would probably command a similar fee to Sissoko I’d imagine. That would be a difficult choice.
Would probably go for Rodwell, but I really do like Sissoko as a player, he plays alongside Capoue who is an out-and-out Defensive Midfielder (very tough tackler), but Sissoko is box-to-box and is very very strong and powerful a la Vieira.
Gambon
Don’t take everything so personally little fella. I’d take your avoidance of an answer as acceptance of your inability to find an example.
Honestly, I think Kolscieny handled himself very well against Drogba Messi and Tevez this year. No, that does not mean I think he is without fault.
I knew you’d come around Suga!!
would break the bank to sign Rodwell tho…
Would be interesting if Arsene went for Rodwell, because:
Wilshere + Ramsey + Rodwell
along with
Theo (if he can stay healthy) + Gibbs + Szczęsny…
and despite what happens with Cesc, I might start giving Wenger leeway for another 5 year plan.
—————–Szczesny—————–
-Bac——New CB———-TV——-New LB-
——————Rodwell—————–
———LJW——————Ramsey——
–Theo————–RvP———–Hazard–
seriously attacking, that…
gambon says:
March 30, 2011 at 20:54
Cescs
Koscielny has been taken apart by anyone & everyone this season.
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Are you really going to stick with that? You make good points, gambon at times, you really do. But your knack for overexaggeration for effect does let you down more often than not.
Cescs
Yep…he was awesome against Messi, only let him score twice. Drogba….yep, let him score.
High standards you got there.
Suga
Swap Ramsey for Cesc & Theo for Nasri & that’s quite a team.
what is it with the fukin roads in poland? bloody awful.
No such thing as an overexaggeration
gambon,
IMO, Cesc is as good as gone in the summer, hence I am not really considering him and Nasri is wasted out wide…
You mean when Drogba didnt score at The Emirates or Messi? See you didnt mention Tevez.
Any closer to that Cahill example?
southcoastgooner,
yep, awful as fuck, the Euros are in one year and that will be quite an embarrassment…
I am blessed to have a house in the part of Poland where the roads are pretty good, but I pity the fools who live in other areas!
last time we drove to Poland (before Xmas), it took us 24 hours door to door, including the ferry!
soon Wilshere will be our new cesc, we wont need cesc and the best part about our new zidane is he is english so wont be fucking off. (unless we dont pay him what he is worth).
Hmmm…dodge analysis as always Cescs.
Djourou marked Drogba at home, and if you remember barca were very very wasteful as well, that is no credit to the CBs.
At least koscielny kept his nerve in the final minutes of the cc final….oh wait, he completely fucked up yet again.