I love Cesc but I can’t understand how it works, and he’s becoming a Van Persie, Arsenal to make tough decisions.

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My Sunday story is about Cesc, Wenger is determined to keep him even though it looks tough, he won’t exchange him for Afelly plus cash, he doesn’t want the money, upwards of £50mil and will continue to build his side around his wonderboy, my question is why?

Before you lose your cornflakes out of your nostrils please think about the following. I love Cesc, he for me is the engine, the creator and the glue that binds this team together, but he is also becoming a Van Persie (massive crock) and we can’t afford to keep losing his services for such huge periods of time and not having him fit for such important games like Barca and ManU.

It reminds me of the few seasons we didn’t replace Seaman or Adams and it cost us, because what we drafted in wasn’t good enough..

Also if your girlfriend decided to shag your best mate and you found out, would you take her back? Would you be able to look at her again knowing she really didn’t want to be with you and that you were in fact second choice? I sure as hell wouldn’t!

Well that all happened to us, I’m not sure if Wenger is hanging on to him makes sense, is he keeping him because he has a long contract? Or he is keeping him because project youth crashes if he leaves, and he loses face?

If it’s because of his contract then why did he let Vieira, Henry, Hleb and Reyes go? They all had years left.

And don’t say to maximise their worth because that’s all cobblers, when we sold Petit and Overmars I met Liam Brady on a golf course, he let me play through as he was so slow, I asked him why we just sold two of our best players, he said you can’t keep unhappy players, enough said.

I love Cesc like he was my own, but for me he asked to leave and since then he has been in and out of the team, I would cash in on him and replace him with Schweinsteiger or similar, not another boy, a ready made, then I would bring in Meretsacker, Cahill or Sakho plus a keeper and a decent DM and that way we may be able to hold onto Nasri.

I would also put Vermaelen on notice, I really rate him but we have been here before with Rosicky, and we all know how that ended up, don’t we?

Still Djourou worked out after a year off so who knows.

I hope that’s enough controversy for today, the day the clocks went forward and I forgot!

Have a great Domingo Grovers.

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343 Responses to “I love Cesc but I can’t understand how it works, and he’s becoming a Van Persie, Arsenal to make tough decisions.”

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  1. Mickeyk

    Watch us struggle against Blackburn .someone has remarked about the French players leaveing .Let em f..cking leave.people seem to think arsenal will colapse if wenger leaves .These crap players think there to good for arsenal for some reason. they need to f..koff .WENGER OUT.

  2. SUGA3

    albo,

    if the former is not eradicated, the latter will count for fuck all – priorities are priorities, no way around it, you can’t start building the house from the roof, can you?

  3. albo

    SUGA3 says:
    March 27, 2011 at 21:31

    surely, two equal teams will have more or less equal head to head record, just by the law of averages if by nothing else?

    You’re ignoring the key fact that some fairly equal teams just have the beating of another team. For example, Liverpool very regularly have the beating of Man U, but often struggle against us…

    Sadly, at the moment, Man U have the beating of us pretty much sewn up! (That said, it’s been a while since we played Man U with all our key players fit. Last time they came to the Emirates we had Arshavin up front I seem to remember!)

  4. Maciek

    Albo.

    It’s Wenger job to shout at our players from time to time and to call a spade a spade.

    He is talking about the mental streng, but we are very fragile in that area, issue.

  5. Joppa

    Isn’t anyone else sick to the back teeth of talking about mental strength? It’s fkin ridiculous. Simply the players we have are not good enough. FACT.

  6. albo

    SUGA3 says:
    March 27, 2011 at 21:37
    albo,

    if the former is not eradicated, the latter will count for fuck all – priorities are priorities, no way around it, you can’t start building the house from the roof, can you?

    But this wasn’t a conversation about this season, so much as one about what work we needed to do on our squad for next season. If we are agreed that we have a squad good enough to win the league right now, then surely, by definition, that is a squad that doesn’t need a radical overhaul?

  7. SUGA3

    albo,

    it’s not a ‘key fact’, it’s just some voodoo bollocks: if the teams are equal, it’s just about who wants it more, simple a that…

    Liverpool have their reasons to want it more than United (local rivalry, won fuck all for the last 20 years, something like us getting beaten by Spuds), United have their reasons to want it more (being serious about the trophy business)…

    by the way:

    when I read Wenger’s quotes about differences in approach to ‘battles’ in England and France, I pissed myself laughing: in France it’s a group expression, he says…

    like what? like ‘We surrender’?

  8. SUGA3

    albo,

    I would not call my personal ‘plans’ a major overhaul, it would be more of a punishing hand of justice striking the fear of failure into the heats of the sinners ;)

  9. SUGA3

    and if the squad is perfectly capable of pissing the league, then the buck stops with the manager…

    I know how unrealistic this is, but if we don’t win the league, I want Wenger gone…

    and I am gone now, this time for good ;)

  10. albo

    Maciek – well actually, I don’t really think the manager makes much difference from the touchlines in a match. All these people complaining about what Wenger or Rice get up to during the actual game are a bit silly imo.

    Maybe things behind the scenes could be a bit more high octane, but because I’m not in the dressing room I don’t really feel we can comment with any authority on all that sort of thing…

  11. albo

    SUGA3 – the ‘overhaul’ comment was to do with the conversation I was having with Maciek that you were commenting on.

    Re the other point, its absolutely NOT voodoo bollocks. I don’t see how you can disagree that certain teams are better set up in terms of personnel and tactics to take on certain teams more than others.

  12. Maciek

    Maybe, but he can make some tactical changes and kick out Almunia and Denilson.

    We can teach how to defend properly.
    He can add some needed steel in our midfield, buy a proper defender, make someone like Keown or Dixon our nr 2.Lot’s of options Albo.

  13. albo

    Maciek – as you know from previous posts I agree about ditching a few weaker players and adding some steel in the middle etc.

    However, I do think the obsession with having someone like Keown or Adams as number 2 as a way to sort out the defence is a bit misguided. It seems to come from the same fallacy as assuming all good players will be good managers. After all, the reserves under Bould are absolutely as suspect at the back as the 1st team!

  14. Maciek

    Albo.

    My final question. How many more chances are you going to give Wenger?

    His contract expires in 2014. You want to wait and wast another 3 years or you want to get rid of him/sack him sooner?

    Please, expain your opinion.

  15. Raugaj

    Suga3
    Dont blame me.

    Its Le Profarter who decides it all.I want that lazy fuck Diaby to be sold,but it will probably remain a dream/

  16. albo

    Maciek – it depends entirely on how each season goes, and how the squad looks. For me, there is a good chance he will have done done enough this season to be in a job next season. I’ll let you know in May!

    But his contract happens to run until the exact same moment as our shirt sponsorship deal can be renewed and vastly increase our income. Might be no bad thing to have the master of low budget squad building around until that point…

  17. Maciek

    So albo if we finish 3rd you will give him another year?

    Master of low budget and crap, lazy, uninterested, spoiled brats since 2006.

    Good night guys.

    Have a great week and thank you Albo for a intelligent discussion.

  18. Maciek

    LOL Raugaj.

    Do you adore our fake Brazilian Son of a Denil?

    What about Manuel Yashin Clownunia?
    HAve you got any favourites?

  19. albo

    So albo if we finish 3rd you will give him another year?

    Maciek – again, depends on the nature of the run in. But yeah probably.

    Master of low budget and crap, lazy, uninterested, spoiled brats since 2006.

    Well, that’s one way of looking at it. But he has found us some rather good players at the same time! ;-)

  20. arsenal4ever

    albo you are such a naiv Wenger follower!!! Real world class talents like Neymar cost more than 5 bucks but Wenger wont change his cheap shit way!!!

  21. ronalmessi

    Maybe, its time Arsenal learnt from Liverpool. When the unhappy Torres left, the team got better. Keeping an unhappy player is like chewing with a broken tooth. If Barca wan’t him, hey, Winger let him go!

  22. ronalmessi

    Maybe, its time Arsenal learnt from Liverpool. When the unhappy Torres left, the team got better. Keeping an unhappy player is like chewing with a broken tooth. If Barca want him, hey, Winger let him go!

  23. SUGA3

    Maciek – well actually, I don’t really think the manager makes much difference from the touchlines in a match. All these people complaining about what Wenger or Rice get up to during the actual game are a bit silly imo.

    Maybe things behind the scenes could be a bit more high octane, but because I’m not in the dressing room I don’t really feel we can comment with any authority on all that sort of thing…

    but an active manager CAN make a difference, actually, it’a silly to think otherwise: there were plenty of games where it could and probably would have made a difference between losing and drawing or even winning…

    Wenger does get up to have a moan at the fourth official, but does not do it just to assess the damage on the pitch and do something about it, not before the usual 60th minute anyway!

    as for the dressing room stuff: Wenger is a highly culutred individual, probably TOO CULTURED, I just somehow don’t see him being able to storm in there effin’ and blindin’, which did the job at Anfield and the players were SHOCKED, which means he does not do this too often, wouldn’t you say?

  24. Matt

    Arsenal are going to lose Cesc at the end of this season, it has been coming, he wants to be playing in spain again. He has been a super player for Arsenal over the years. All Arsenal fans have to accept though that eventually he is going to go and I think this will be his last season, I cannot see Wenger keeping him against his will, as unhappy players do not help competing for the title. I think you are looking in the wrong places for his replacement though, Wenger will be looking at the French league. If he is smart will bring in an older experienced player and a youngster with a similar style of play to that experienced player. To start training the youngster from day one as the future star of the Arsenal midfield.

  25. Geoff

    Morning all, I have to go out so I’m posting early, it also makes up for the fuck up yesterday with the clocks going forward! New post.

  26. Damian

    how about some facts 1st Henry had 3 months to run on his contract with the 2 months break about to start & had been out crocked 4 6 months with at least 5 more to go missing the 1st 2 months of the new season and no guarantee he would be any good the back injury looked permanent he & Wenger decided it was time to go but conned Barca. out of a transfer fee

  27. goonergerry

    Wenger would be insane to let Fabregas go in the summer-because the team have not yet shown they can win a tough game without him and- the Board will spend the money on other things-they buy kids and unknowns or cheap second raters- period-when have they ever-bought an experienced top player? The Board love Wenger because they think they can get success on the cheap with him.
    Last year the Board met to consider Cesc’s transfer request. They think Ramsey is Cescs replacement- this is an 18 year old who is crippled with a broken leg and they are already thinking we don’t need to buy-. Aaron Ramsey may become a top player one day-but he is a mile away from the playing at the standard of Cesc just yet.
    Sometimes buying kids and unknowns works too-but sometimes it doesn’t as well as we have seen this year again with our centre backs.
    Cesc needs to be patient and so do we-nothing has changed- if he goes to Barca now-he will have wasted the last 5 years and he will spend life as a reserve sitting on their bench. He will never displace Xavi, Iniesta or Busquets in their first eleven. Cesc will be twice the player next season with a rest and a pre season. If he has lost faith and wants to leave-its a different story-he should not be sold to a more ambitious EPL club.
    As for selling Clichy or any of our players to the Italians-No.

  28. Gerry

    Arsenal do not like making tough decisions, never have done, which is why AW is still the manager. Top clubs would have got rid by now.