…That’s right young imaginary world class centre back, Jack Shite, even 17 year old Chamberlain doesn’t want to join us, how predictable. Squillaci reminds me of when we signed Silvestre, he wasn’t good enough, got injured a lot and we won nothing. I see the similarities, French, too old, nothing special, injured a lot and stopping us signing what we need. Still Arsene rates him.
Oh well, I wasn’t expecting Arsenal to do anything as outrageous as improving the team so to be fair I’m not really bothered, I just look forward to those games that we win and anything else is a bonus.
Today I’m being rested, I’ll watch it on ESPN, I’m going to the Everton game so want to make sure I’m fresh, I can’t be expected to make the effort twice a week after all, the players don’t.
Arsenal don’t need to worry, they already have my money up front.
Onto today and the prospect of seeing the fringe players, it will be nice to see Diaby again before he get’s injured and comes back in time for the final. All jokes aside I really think that Diaby is an awesome player, he’s just injured too often and you saw what happened to Rosicky, 4 years of waste to come back and never feature. Having said that Rosicky should play today.
This is my best guess.
Almunia
Eboue Squillaci Miquel Gibbs
Denilson Diaby Rosicky
Bendtner Chamakh Arshavin
If they can’t see Huddersfield off, then we really should have a clear out, but I still expect a cricket score.
It will be nice to see Miquel so I hope he plays, but I’m not holding my breath. I know we still have a day to go before the deadline but given that we’ve already lost nearly a month, I can’t see the point in trying to buy someone this late on, we did it with Arshavin, but to do it again wouldn’t make any sense and unless it was a Premier league player, we would have to have a bedding in period for he or she that joined, I say she because I really don’t want to offend anyone, to be honest though, there are a few in our ladies team I think are better than Denilson anyway.
Have a great day Grovers, enjoy the Pires goal, he still has it 6 years on doesn’t he? Don’t worry about all the teams that have signed players and improved themselves, one of them have to play the mancs twice! And think of the future, we already have them in abundance. And they cost us nothing!
Lurch – Gets you through to the next round though doesn’t it, which is all you can ask really.
when’s denilson’s contract up?
at this stage i think randall would do a better job.
Dale,
no, I don’t, Italian football is shit, IMO, they will not be able to live with Sp*ds pace and all that…
so, no Sagna and no Nasri in the first leg against Barca?
discuss…
Keyser,
the context of the arguement is the closing window and recent statements….
namely those that imply our squad is the best ever!
Can’t blame anyone who is really angry after today’s performance.2 years of silvestre torture going to followed by 3 years of Squillacci.
….which is propaganda of the highest order.
No new quotes SUGA3, I don’t think it’s at all confirmed that he’ll miss it.
My biggest worry is Arsh and goals we might start leaking from the left again. Thankfully Clichy looks in better form.
In truth I don’t think beating Barca should even be high priority. If we put too much into it we might collapse in the other 3 trophies which are much more gettable.
Among the important matches Nasri will miss Everton at home and Newcastle away, which is a bigger worry.
to be fair my anger in order of magnitude is directed at
1. Denilson
2. Squillaci
3. Wenger for having the the above in our squad.
I can excuse Gibbs, arsha, diaby and the rest for their efforts but fielding a team full of rust is madness when we know the perils of disrespecting cups and the overflow of confidence it bears on the EPL.
Mayank,
who needs new quotes?
‘It is a big blow, how big I do not know because the results in the future will tell, but it is a big blow. ‘Put three weeks to today’s game and you will know [if he misses the Barcelona game]. I think yes’
*bares
Nasri wont be available so we need to live with that and make proper arrangements in this regard Rosicky or Arshavin…??
My thoughts on today:
1) We played badly and won. In fact we played badly with 10 men and won. People who suggest that its trophies that count should also agree that it is results that count. Suddenly it appears that all the people who are only interested in results are now strangely interested in the performance as well.
Nite all….
2) Our B team is not particularly good. The good players are out of form and the weaker ones are horribly so.
Can Denilson be the shittiest player to have played for Arsenal???He definitely gets 10 for the lack of effort part!!Can’t believe some still defend him and would rather have him than flamini
Now I’ll admit I don’t hate spurs as much as London based gooners (mainly because I know a grand total of 1 spurs fan). But if we look at it from a purely Arsenal perspective wouldn’t it be better that Spurs get into the top four at the cost of Man City. Much below us of course.
They are much less a threat to us than a Man City that can promise CL footy. Spurs have a wage bill a little more than half ours. Surely they can’t double it in one summer. Not with their revenue streams.
3) That said, I wouldn’t say our B team is any worse than any of the other top teams. Man U’s team yesterday is every bit as capable of defensive clangers, and every bit as weak in the centre of the park as ours today. And Man City have shown this afternoon that if throwing money at the problem is the answer, then they are asking the wrong question! And then there’s Spurs who actually put out a pretty strong team…
nite kush
4) I hate to pick on a player, but Denilson is just looking shocking. His habit of just sticking a leg out when a player goes past him would be annoying in a centre forward. For a supposed defensive midfielder is just jawdroppingly poor. And he doesn’t offer nearly enough creatively to justify his defensive weaknesses.
albo,
fuck me, the results DO count, but this kind of performance by the usual suspects at home against a League One team is inexcusable and not benching them/sending to the stiffs is taking a fucking piss!
noblesse oblige…
5) Wenger is taking a ridiculous gamble by not buying a defender. Squillaci looks desperately poor and all it takes is one more pulled hamstring etc to leave us is serious trouble. I wouldn’t be so worried if our midfielder/defender was a benchwarmer. In other words, if it was Diaby rather than Song who was a capable central defender, then I wouldn’t have a problem. But when the back up is a first choice midfielder it is disingenuous to talk about him as a genuine cover for the position.
6) Almunia made an absolutely world class save today that for some reason people are only referring to as ‘quite good’.
There is a denilson is fucking shit page on facebook.lol..and it has around 800 members
Almunia was always a good shot stopper, but this only constitutes about 20% of the stuff in his job card, no?
7) Despite what you might read on here, Spurs, City and Liverpool are not teams that we should be jealous of. Apparently they are all clubs with more ‘ambition’ than us, but frankly whatever they have got isn’t something I’d want us to have! City MIGHT win something this season, but I’d be surprised. The other 2 have a snow ball in hell’s chance…
Albo it’s not just a matter of our B team not being good. This was a team that’s barely every played together even when compared to Huddersfield. Add to that the fact that we had a few player who were either out of form or returning from injury.
Sure we had the individual quality out there to win comfortably but individual quality has lesser effect on performance than team play.
There’s a reason we used to smash the lower league opposition comfortably with our academy team. Though the players were of lesser quality they had played together much more. Now that we’re playing a more proven team we’re struggling because they’ve hardly played with each other.
nish,
make it 870
nah it was a class save.
Almunia is a squad keeper, i have no problem with that.
made it 871
SUGA3 says:
January 30, 2011 at 18:09
Almunia was always a good shot stopper, but this only constitutes about 20% of the stuff in his job card, no?
Doesn’t make that particular save any less excellent though does it?
Denilson isn’t the worst ever arsenal player, but he’s the worst player in the champs league, no doubt.
Absolutely horrible, appalling player. I cannot fathom what wenger sees in him, other than a small hope of taking credit if he improves 20000%.
and the worst thing is these clowns will keep getting chances.Someone like Lansbury has to go to fucking norwich to prove himself yet Denilson can just walk into the team.Cunt wont even get injured.
albo,
yes, this particular save made the sun shine out of his peroxide blonde arse for about five seconds – happy?
Gambon-He played against leeds and was outclass by championship players.Couldn’t even hold his own against League 1 players.Would have been interesting had we got Crawley town.Even they would have ran rings around him.
I actually don’t remember Denilson being as shit as his recent performances. He did play 37 out of 38 games in a season where we did manage 4th. Cesc only played 22 of those. Doesn’t make him great but makes him more decent than he’s been playing lately.
yup arshie played well, as did bendy.
kozzer and eboue were fine aswell amongst others, but why eboue bothers running the ball into the box ill never understand.
He used to have a great cross on him and with Chamakh on the pitch its criminally underused.
Chamakh however was a complete waste of space. play bendy centrally and put rosicky out wide next time.
9) Controversial one this, but I actually think Bendtner is better on the wing right now. When he plays through the middle he is forever coming into midfield rather than working the channels and it leaves us with no one up front. Also his first touch lets him down.
Out wide he can still be a target for a long ball, but he gets more space and time on the ball so his touch is less of an issue. Furthermore, he is decent at cutting inside and shooting. And the last few games have suggested that he might actually be one of the better crossers of the ball in our squad (can’t believe I just wrote that!)
SUGA3 says:
January 30, 2011 at 18:18
albo,
yes, this particular save made the sun shine out of his peroxide blonde arse for about five seconds – happy?
Wow it must be miserable being you
Nish
The mighty sergio torres will run rings round Ferdinand & vidic.
Albo, I’m quite sure that our keepers must have a much better pass % with Nik on the field. We do ssem to prefer to kick it wide than nito a melee in the centre.
albo,
thanks for your concern, but I am a pretty happy individual, I just don’t accept the second best, that’s all…
Is Crawley your second team Gambon?
Breaking News: Denilson hands in transfer request. In other news : Wenger begs,pleads and cries….
Now my first team Mayank.
I would’ve loved to have gone to OT but I’m in Krakow that weekend.
spuds are out!
YEAH
gambon says:
January 30, 2011 at 18:24
Nish
The mighty sergio torres will run rings round Ferdinand & vidic.
Haha. Well they do say that Vidic can never cope with Torres…
gambon,
knock yourself out, but play nice over there, that’s a good advice
That’s funny Suga3, how does your not accepting 2nd best change anything at Arsenal?
I always find it funny when people try to liken their personality to their outlook towards Arsenal.
Supporting any team in the long term basically means accepting 2nd best or worse for most of your life. Unless you’re like a friend I have, who changes the team he follows depending on who the dominant team is at that moment.
Now he does not accept second best.
SUGA3 says:
January 30, 2011 at 18:28
albo,
thanks for your concern, but I am a pretty happy individual, I just don’t accept the second best, that’s all…
Haha. Better just start supporting Barcelona and have done with it then
lol Gambon, if anyone reads that post out of context it would seem, as many expected, that you are indeed a manc.
Mayank,
you can tell your friend that he is a cunt and a gloryhunter in that respect, but I’m sure there are other reasons to keep him as a friend
what am I to do, pretend everything is OK when it’s not?
I wish I could change something at Arse, like invite Denilshite, Diaby, Squillaci and our medical staff to a meeting and say ‘You’re fired, now fuck off’
but since I am not in position to do so, I will have a moan and call them shitcunts – fair?
albo,
there is a place for people who like to suggest fellow Gooners to support someone else, it’s called ACLF, you should check it out, great comedy value…
Sorry to quote a spurs fan, but I think this is a pretty fair assessment of Spurs right now on the BBC text service:
“Confirms my belief – heresy some might say – that Harry Redknapp is a top SIX manager, not a TOP manager. We haven’t kicked on. Came fourth last season whilst others were sleeping, been Baled out in the Champs Lge. It’s the Europa again for us next season. How have we improved exactly, other than Harry polishing a lamp and the genie that is Van de Vaart somehow popping out for a discount? Steven Pienaar? Do me a favour.”
…..and the point of discussing peoples personality on a football blog is??
sniveling AKB zombies and their persecution of the town crier….
hysterical if wasn’t so sad.
SUGA3 says:
January 30, 2011 at 18:41
albo,
there is a place for people who like to suggest fellow Gooners to support someone else, it’s called ACLF, you should check it out, great comedy value…
Haha. While this is the website for gooners to tell other gooners that they are pathetic cunts for suggesting we’re not the worst team in the world. Also quite good comedy calue
RonaldO is such a pussy. Only started to stand up to the opposition dude when he saw ozil and co came to protect him.
Maybe you could enjoy the ride for as long as is left, especially as the cynic in you will tell you its not too long, we are still in 4 cups.
Moaning gives way to more moaning, which generally tends to breed a negative outlook. One which is not very good for someone who’s not ready to be second best.
Guess I’ll give the life lessons a rest now, wouldn’t want to seem condescending. Too late?
albo,
it is really funny how you ‘real’ fans try to blow certain stuff out of proportion – jeez, mate, I have a degree on that subject and know every single trick in the book!
who ever said you were a pathetic cunt? and when did anyone on here shoot a fellow Grover down for claiming Arsenal are not the ‘worst team in the world’?
come on, mate. it’s fucking childish…
Mayank,
way too late and a bit rich, given that it’s the ‘doomers’ that get it spot on year in, year out…
haha mankini blaming the pitch.
I’m with Mayank. If you are going to be quite that miserable whenever your football isn’t best in the world (or even best in the country) then you’re surely going to spend a fairly large proportion of your life moaning!
Good thing you support a team that at least has the possibility to be up there I suppose…
Baled out.. haha, genius.
Bit of a flat performance today wasn’t it?
All credit to Huddersfield though, they had some quite intelligent players and got at us quite well on the counter, our defense was having a nightmare with that big fella whose name i can’t remember.
The only Arsenal players who stood out for me were Arshavin, B52, Rosicky, and Fab
Nice to see Andrey was up for it though. Still not found his shooting boots, but at least his decision making in the final third seems to be improving. that bit of play to gift a goal to Bendtner was really good, although Bendtner cocked it up.
Fucking annoyed about Nasri though. it’s irritating because we really shouldn’t need our big stars for games like this, but apparently we do so…
Lurch I only brought in the personality thing because it’s useless to think people’s football personality is anything like their real personality.
I don’t think the so called AKB side says lines like, “Maybe the AKBs have no ambition but we do, and we want Arsenal to be the best” Isn’t that bringing personality into the picture.
And “sniveling AKB zombies” didn’t expect that from you.
and once again, please, have some perspective:
- Carling Cup, we could not have it much easier
- FA Cup, let’s talk about this after the quarters, shall we?
- league: still in it, not only thanks to us, no?
- CL? almost crashed out of the easiest group, remember?
but some like to look just at the results – sure, you can only beat what’s in front of you, but…
You only need to look at Denilson to see that he is not a natural footballer. He looks fat and awkward and has the first touch of a rapist
albo
I don’t understand your insistence that everything is fine and we will be ok if we don’t sign anyone.
There is literally no downside in us signing quality players. Please explain how Arsenal would be worse or how our chances of winning something would be less if we went out and spend £20+ million on a world class defender or goalkeeper ?
We have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Getting it right doesn’t change a thing Suga3… Fans from 19 teams would be right in saying that the can’t win and at least 3 would have supporters thinking they can win it.
However, its not really the same thing. A fan saying ‘we will win’ and being wrong is not the same as one saying ‘we will not win’ and being wrong.
I don’t really think there’s anyone on here who can say with any conviction that we won’t win. Any more than one who can say otherwise.
TOMTOM,
blasphemy, he is better than Alonso, Flamini and many more!
I don’t think we’ve had a great season at all Suga, if we did anything close to that we’d be cruising at the top of the league. Just saying there’s too much of the season left to justify moaning at this stage.
Also worth noting that although Man U have slipped considerable they are 1 point ahead of where they were last season. Yes they have been poor but they’ve still managed to get the results.
your right mayank it was a knee jerk soundbite… but you should know by now im just a joker so put it in the wind up box.
that said its hard to see past the hypocrisy of posters moaning about other posters moaning about the arse – at least when its on topic and constructive to conversation.
SUGA3 – haha. No, you’re quite right, everyone on here is terribly polite, especially when they disagree with other people’s views on things. It’s a veritable beacon of calm and respectful debate. (And as for your specific question, the answer is plenty of times!)
“And when did anyone on here shoot a fellow Grover down for claiming Arsenal are not the ‘worst team in the world’?”
That was hyperbole. Its a rhetorical device. I think you get the point I was making.
What I find amusing is this weird ‘us and them’ attitude you (and others) seem to have. ACLF vs Le Grove. Doomers vs AKBs. I find THAT childish. People on here complain that they go on ACLF and people shoot down even the most simple comment about Denilson not being good enough, but then someone makes a perfectly logical point on here defending the squad in some way or other and the vitriol will be just as great and you (presumably) think its fine.
Personally, I just think of everyone as gooners. We all love the club, and we care enough to waste lots of time discussing it on the internet. And if you read my numbered posts earlier, it should be clear that I am neither an ‘AKB’ nor a ‘doomer’ (ridiculous as those terms are anyway).
“I would play Arshavin in place of Nasri now. His work rate has improved and he is more likely to provide something in the final third. I agree that some of our improvement lately has come from improved work rate but I think its more to do with Walcott returning and stretching games with his pace and runs”
as for football personality vs normal personality… hmmm
i feel sorry for those that lead duplicitous lives, not particularly healthy in practice.
But i guess this overtly banal PC civilization breeds it.
Suga is spot on.
We can only win our domestic cups and fight for the league.
If Wenger spends some money and bring a world class cd and a cdm.who knows.
Barca is a world class team and are better with Villa, on the other hand we are only SLIGHTLY better than last year.
Yes, we don’t have Cambpell and Silvestre, but Denilson, Almunia, Diaby, Squilacci are still here.
And the Spuds can really beat Milan who must face an injury crisis.
arsenal to lose to leyton orient- denilson own goal and bendter to miss a sitter from 2 yards
Funny you say that Lurch, there’s a good few headline posts on here talking about our fans. It’s generally moaning about the fans that don’t moan or are ‘satisfied’ with the way things are.
It’s just discussion. No personal accusations other than the posters conduct on the blog. Unless it goes into the ‘Oh you must be easily satisfied in life then’ territory. That’s about the only time it gets personal.
MatthewT says:
January 30, 2011 at 19:02
albo
I don’t understand your insistence that everything is fine and we will be ok if we don’t sign anyone.
I don’t understand your assumption that that is my viewpoint. Here’s is a cut and paste of a post I made today:
“albo says:
January 30, 2011 at 18:05
5) Wenger is taking a ridiculous gamble by not buying a defender. Squillaci looks desperately poor and all it takes is one more pulled hamstring etc to leave us is serious trouble. I wouldn’t be so worried if our midfielder/defender was a benchwarmer. In other words, if it was Diaby rather than Song who was a capable central defender, then I wouldn’t have a problem. But when the back up is a first choice midfielder it is disingenuous to talk about him as a genuine cover for the position.”
As I’ve just said in a previous post, people seem incapable of just having a bit of balance. You’ve read some positive posts by me about the squad so immediately assume I am incapable of seeing anything to criticise.
Of course its not all perfect. But when I read posts saying ‘Wenger is destroying this club’ I roll my eyes just as much as when I read someone say that we can cope with 3 defenders while challenging in 4 competitions…
no nasri = no trophy!!!!! face the facts
the whore coming on for real madrid
You know what I mean, football is generally an escape for most people. If you’re going to be as calculative and cynical regarding football as you are in dealing with the rest of the world then what’s the point.
If you’re the loudest, most jovial, cheerful fan in the world it doesn’t prevent you from being downright miserable in other areas of life.
We must win all our matches when Nasri is ouit injured.
That will show our mental strengh.
Mayank,
it’s all about knowing a bit about football: at the beginning of the season, some of us said we would come short, but only just…
sure, Djourou is a bit of a surprise with his decent performances and Koscielny is also doing much better than I expected back then, but once again, we have just one defensive pairing that is any good and no cover for the DM position – anything changed since the last season?
albo,
quite frankly, the level of debate and approach towards the voices of dissent on here are miles ahead of the same on ACLF…
personally, I have never insulted anyone, unless insulted first, I know I should be even better than that…
I am not what you could class as a ‘doomer’ either, I think you will admit I am pretty moderate and able to back my point of view with logical arguments, no?
all I’m saying is that it’s not so rosy
Sure mayank, although the subject and context of the headlines are often genuine matters which affect the spirit (or lack) of our squad,board & management.
of course its just discussion… but moaning about moaners becomes too self referential and inward looking.
Hmmm calculative and cynical?
yup guilty as charged, but i’m self employed & run 2 business’ & those traits are indispensable.
milan will rip the spuds aside, they are a massive club with lot of experienced lads.
ibra, robinho, pato, cassano. how the exactly the scum are going to cope?
Madrid 13 minutes away from losing the title for sure.
Well most of the 800 odd comments on here are due to discussion between people. So you can’t really expect the topic of discussion to be as general.
One could look at your recent posts and call it moaning about people moaning about moaners. But its not, its just discussion and observation, as were the earlier posts.
How come Osuana don’t have a sponsor across their chest. I’d love an Arsenal shirt without Fly Emirates slapped across it.
suggesting people must have a sad life is going beyond discussion and observation,as is calling people akb snivelling etc…
but yes, lets not make it 803.
La Liga Over.Its funny.Under pellegrini Madrid dropped only 18 points.They have already dropped(If they lose this one) 12 points
albo,
“quite frankly, the level of debate and approach towards the voices of dissent on here are miles ahead of the same on ACLF…”
Well, I’m inclined to think its pretty 50-50 personally. And in fairness there were some people on here earlier that weren’t at all rude, but who disagreed with the post who, as far as I could tell, were immediately censored
“personally, I have never insulted anyone, unless insulted first, I know I should be even better than that…”
Likewise, though I prefer to avoid it even if insulted first. Not because I’m a saint or anything, I just think getting all rude and angry on the internet is kinda pointless and adolescent. I also think it usually makes the person’s argument sound weaker…
“I am not what you could class as a ‘doomer’ either, I think you will admit I am pretty moderate and able to back my point of view with logical arguments, no?”
Yeah, but still from a pretty negative point of view
I mean, for example I’d like to think I was also being pretty logical and moderate in pointing out that by drawing 3 Premiership clubs in our first 3 rounds of the Carling Cup that we had not really had it all that easy. You could have simply said, ‘yeah I suppose so, fair enough’. Instead, you made it all some silly argument about who hates spurs more to avoid accepting that we’ve actually put in a decent run in that competition!
suga you turncoat doomer!
doooooooooooooooommmmmm
pass the needle.
madrid are probably losing the titles because they didn’t invest enough in new players
http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2011/01/sunu-poised-for-lorient-move/?
another player temporarily off the wage bill should do the profit margins a world of good.
cynical enough?
That’s la liga wrapped up then. Madrid 7 points behind after that 1-0 loss.
albo
i wouldn’t say that Wenger is destroying the club but he isn’t taking us any further forward, he has been treading water for 6 years living off past glories and promises of future success that never comes.
IMO what makes people angry is that Arsenal fans have to pay the highest ticket prices in the league and some of the highest prices in the world.
In return for these high prices all they have got is a lack of ambition that has crept into the clubs culture and management that base their decision on business, not football principles.
Why should fans have to pay such high prices when all that is done with the profit is to stockpile it in the bank ? its of no use there and if its not spent on improving the team it should be spent on subsidised tickets so that fans can more easily afford to follow the team.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
breath
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
jst seen the spuds score
Great debut for Adebayor….Madrid lose the game…haha what luck Ade brings to the side…
Spain’s league all over
Gooby
They spent a 1/4 if a billion 2 summers ago and spent on a couple if world cup stars last summer. Lack of spending is nit their problem.
My theory, JM has to play attacking football for the first time in his life. Nothing but would be tolerated at madrid. He is having to go against his normal pragmatism for the first time in his career.
Transfer window closes at 5.30 right?
Lurch,
And they say here that I’m too negative.
If Wenger fails to win a major trophy this season he should be sacked.
We can win our next 5 five league games without Nasri.
Barca will trash us as usual.
I’m with you, we do need a cd, a quality cdm and maybe a striker who can bang 25 goals for us in one season.
Funny, that almost everyone here thinks we do not need Suarez. He will score plenty of goals for LFC and with Torres they will create a great combo.
When I look at Bendtner and Chamakh I want to scream.
Only at AFC……..
albo,
OK, we got past Spuds (very much a reserve side), Magpies and Wigwam in the CC, later we got to play Ipswich and made a meal out of it, due to fiddling around with the team selection, no?
each and every time we made more than reasonable number of changes, we made the other team look good, even though we should be more than capable of ripping their heads off and pissing in their necks
Lurch,
dooooooooooooooooooooooooommmm
but I prefer the term ‘realist’…
hattrick?
Arsenal are extremely lucky to have a visionary, intelligent, committed, decent, honest, steadfast, hard working manager who has an unparalleled eye for talented and unequalled ability to develop that talent. Arsenal are blessed to have a man who has the nerve, the guts and the self confidence to choose the path not opf least resistance and short termism but a considered path that requires that we build from the ground up with proper foundations in place. Such a man can fairly be called a legend. And it is indeed a fact that Arsenal FC under the remarkable Monsieur Wenger has indeed built up a squad of quite considerable depth at a fraction of the cost of his rival.
Wenger is a legend.
Jags,
hahaha! what’s that? I can see one of the following:
- you’ve bumped your head
- someone hacked your computer
- it’s a copy and paste job
well?
OK, I know what it is, here’s another pearler:
‘No,lets not break this team.I think Squillaci will go on to become a great player.Koscielny is the best CB in the league right now.They should be able to handle Messi.
Denilson will repeat his performances against Barcelona,and everyone who are after him,would eat his words.I think he was one of the stand out performers today.Goes on with his job,without any flimsy stuff.’
Suga3.
Ofcourse,I did the last option from the site …….
I posted there that Squillaci will go on to become a legend.Pretty sure that there would be lots of posters who will agree with me.
Suga3,you mug
No peanuts for guessing that ‘legend’.
oops…
was it you? got me tricked there
zeus says:
January 30, 2011 at 19:58
Gooby
They spent a 1/4 if a billion 2 summers ago and spent on a couple if world cup stars last summer. Lack of spending is nit their problem.
My theory, JM has to play attacking football for the first time in his life. Nothing but would be tolerated at madrid. He is having to go against his normal pragmatism for the first time in his career.
—-
i was having a laugh mate
Suga3
I think most of the posters over there are on a windup.Which sensible person would post such dross and agree to it.
Gooby
Didn’t get that. I haven’t been following the bantering from today’s events.
well, you have to accept that they love The Arsenal more than we, dirty Sp*ds, ever will…
Maciek. I hear you buddy, although I’m prepared to tolerate our strike force in it’s current guise. Defensively we’re Defo on the same wavelength however.
OGL letting nordveidt go permanently and Bartley on loan all season long with squid as fourth drop is mental.
Raugaj: Totally agree, with 90 percent of what you wrote, he has made Arsenal an amazing machine like a sports car, its fast, it direct and can take corners?? (no actually forget the corners bit) but whats the point of having a fast car if the breaks don’t work (defense, see what i done there) or even replace the engine with cheap parts or even new protypes..
Jags,
hahaha! hook, line & sinker…
Lurch
i believe that squill as 4th choice, even if he’s shyt, is a better option than bartley or nordveit who are too young an inexperienced
Gooby,
yeah, but he could do with a bit of competition for the ‘last’ spot, as he knows that he only plays when there is no one else…
MatthewT – everything you say is to some extent fair, but I do think there are other perspectives that are no less valid.
Firstly, I’d argue that it’s unfair to say we’ve simply tread water for 6 years. There was always going to be a setting up period for this model of squad building. I’d argue that the last couple of years have been disappointing, but as a CLUB we haven’t trodden water. I don’t understand how negative people seem to be about the building of the stadium. We all know the stadium is crucial for us to be a footballing force in the 21st century, but for some reason no one seems to want to give any credit for achieving it. I see your point that you think decisions are being taken on business rather than footballing principle, but I just can’t see that there is any other responsible option if we want our club to be secure in the future. For some reason it is forbidden to mention Portsmouth or Leeds on this site – you get shot down faster than you can type – but they are the ultimate result of putting football completely before business sense. Of course it is possible to strike a balance, and at time we do err on the side of financial caution, in my opinion, but not nearly as much as the armchair accountants would have you believe.
Secondly, I do think the ticket price thing has been exaggerated. The clubs we should compare with are Spurs and Chelsea – as they are the 2 other top London clubs. After all, everything is more expensive in London than Blackburn, so we can’t really blame Arsenal for that. And while we are more expensive, the disparity is not that great. Often the comparison seems to be made with Club Level tickets, which is crazy. Anyone moaning about the price of a ticket while in club seats is ridiculous as far as I’m concerned. They have chosen to pay a whole load extra for nothing to do with football and if they can afford that kind of money then they are welcome to spend it as foolishly as they like! As a red member I have never paid more than £50 for a ticket, and most of the time pay £37. Now that is not THAT much more than Spurs or Chelsea.
Finally, I think it is a myth that we stockpile vast amounts of money in the bank. And it is a myth the recent Arsenal Supporters Trust report has debunked. The £130m of cash on the balance sheet as at 31 May 2010 represents season ticket money received in advance (£60m), money on secured accounts for future debt service (£30m) and money in the Transfer Proceeds Account (TPA of £25m). But out of that money comes all the player salaries etc etc for the year. To quote the AST:
“What is easy to lose sight of amongst all the fanfare surrounding Arsenal’s financials every time the figures are announced is that on a football basis only, before player trading, Arsenal Football Club just about breaks even.”
People moan that money from player sales never goes back into the club, but in fact financial covenants agreed to by the Club states that at least 70% of player sales proceeds has to be either spent on ‘squad investment’ or retained in a Transfer Proceeds Account. And the property profits that are often banged on about don’t exist yet. We recently broke even, but the profits from the property deals will only appear in the next few years.
There is approximately £40 million available (which explains why I think Wenger is crazy not to bring in a defender in the window), but in the greater scheme of footballing costs that is far from a huge stockpile. For example, Nasri’s new contract will have to come out of that pot. It could disappear pretty quickly if we’re not careful. If twitchy were in charge he’d have blown it in a month and hamstrung any future transfer action!
Listen, everything is not perfect on the pitch – we can all see that. (It’s also not terrible, mind you, and personally I think we have the best 1st 11 in the country). Why we aren’t moving for a CB mystifies me. But there has been lots of good work done in the last 6 years that is crucial to the club’s future, in my opinion.
jeez, Madrid are shit. They spend 300 million and end up 7 points behind Barca before February. What a fucking joke.
As for Spud,
: D 
apparently, Koscielny is a yellow card from suspension…
MatthewT – wow! Apologies for the longest post ever. You can’t tell how long you’ve been banging on about something in the little comment box until you post it! Haha
SUGA3 says:
January 30, 2011 at 20:40
apparently, Koscielny is a yellow card from suspension…
Jesus already? Silvestre on loan anybody?!!!
i am happy when the spuds lose but i think we should be more concerned with the performances of our team. Comments on spuds games will not improve our team. Am sure if we had played a premier league team we would have lost. I dont think it is coincidence that we have perfomed poorly against leeds, ipswich and huddersfield in recent times. It is obvious that in the absence of some key players, the team is not good, yet the manager thinks otherwise. I dont understand this his habit of sticking to some players when it is clear they are not Arsenal standard. A few names come to mind, Aladiere, J. Hoyte, Cygan, Sylvestre, Senderos, etc. These never came good. Currently we have Almunia,Denilson, Eboue, Diaby, Squilaci, etc, who continue to cost us points but the manager thinks there are no better players under this planet to replace them. We will not get anywhere unless there is a change in attitudes and direction. This year the premiership was there for us to take, but seems we have lost our way. Wish i was wrong but this is the reality, we have lost our way. Though we lie second, i doubt we will be in the reckoning in the run in.
albo.
Don’t bring sensible points into this you mug, unless ou wanna meet me in the rocket for a straightener.
http://www.arsenal.com/first-team/players/laurent-koscielny/stats
four yellows and two reds (the latter count separately)…
Disagree about nordveidt Gooby. His experience in Germany and his unflappable northern European attitude made him capable IMHO.
Stop bashing Arenal players…like Denilson, Squillachi, Gibbs etc etc etc.
Get a life you morons
It’s 10 bookings now for a two match ban now since the new year, but red cards can happen.
OPG,
pretty sure you still get one match ban for five?
No Nasri….No Nasri for Barca…..Nasri not in team for Barca…Nasri not on left wing for Barca…
Song, JW, Cesc + a revived Arshavin….. y not!
At least we will have a better team this year than last
Oh dear, the arsenal supporters are once again showing what they are. They are bad losers, we play one bad match with squillaci,denilson,almunia and eboue in the line-up and we are gonna killed by barca.
Jesus, yes, nasri is out of the barca game but that makes us not much more worse then yesterday. We played our facking B-team! And when we play the four clowns (eboue,squid,denilson,almunia) then we always play bad, but guys that’s one mans fault! Wenger!
You guys have to think good for you say something, there was only one player on the field who was in our first line-up and that was nasri, who left the field in twente minutes! Be just as positive as yesterday because we played with ten man and the four clowns!
LOL @ bill
Albo your points earlier 1-9 summed everything up. I would love it, just love it if Arsene pulled it out the hat tomorrow and brought in a defender.
Albo
Most of that long post was way off.
Mentioning Leeds & pompey again was ridiculous, if you can’t see the vast difference between borrowing heavily and spending your own profits you aren’t very bright.
As for ticket prices, we have the most expensive ticket prices in Europe, yet our transfer spend is dwarfed by all but 1 PL club, and likely most clubs in europe. Fans would clearly not be happy if they were told in advance that no established class players were coming in, hence all the bullshit that wenger talks right around April & may.
Also, the football club is vastly profitable. Last year was the first time in numerous years that property contributed any cash, yet our bank balance went up to 130m since 06.
Albo – Well said, completely spot on. Can’t believe this is still going on, heh.
I’m surprised Iamgooner hasn’t had a spaz out.
We have facking much money!! Even blackpool spend more then us! That’s just all because of wenger! I hate ppl who are saying things about leeds and pompey!
We can surely spend 20 million! We have that money! And don’t day that we don’t have the money! We never had so much money as now! Spend it!!!!!
gambon –
In any conversation about striking a balance between Football and business priorities it of course makes sense to put forward as case studies the 2 occasions clubs have got that balance most wrong. They are not examples of where we would find ourselves if we bought a defender, but they are still the final destination of any club that doesn’t think it should be run ‘like a business’ and so are entirely relevant to the conversation.
As for bringing up other PL clubs that outspend us, one of those until recently was Pompey, but of course it is ridiculous to compare us to them. I think many of the clubs who’s spending you are citing are in just as precarious a position as Pompey were 1 year or so before they went under.
You have made the exact same argument about our profitability before, so I will simply ask you this question. Do you dispute the AST’s findings that “on a football basis only, before player trading, Arsenal Football Club just about breaks even.”
Do you have better figures that blow theirs out of the water? Because it sounds like this £130 million you always say we have in the bank is the exact same £130 million that the AST show will be spent each year on the running of the club…
They claim that we don’t make a footballing profit at all. The profits we make come from a) player sales – at least 70% of which legally has to be reinvested in the squad, and b) in the future, profits from property. (And c) further in the future, renegotiated deals for sponsorship. And d) WAAAAY in the future, a time when we aren’t servicing the debt)
And I stand by my paragraph on ticket costs. I think the disparity between like clubs is not nearly as great as people would have you believe. And even our season ticket prices are misleading, as aren’t they the only ones to include 7 Champions League and FA cup games? Money that will be refunded if we don’t play all of those ties?
Anyway, feel free to post these figures that prove the AST accountants have got it all wrong…
Albo
U really want me to read all that!!!!
Whats the bottom line?
ritesh – the bottom line is we have some money to spend, and could certainly afford a new centre, but we have nothing like as much as everybody claims
(Centre back, I meant)
Wenger the liar says:
January 30, 2011 at 21:06
LOL @ bill
Albo your points earlier 1-9 summed everything up. I would love it, just love it if Arsene pulled it out the hat tomorrow and brought in a defender.
God, me too mate. I’m not in any way expecting it anymore, but it would be frickin ‘season-making’ imo.
Even Frank MCLintock said( I don’t have any link) that it’s the first time since our Emirates movement that Wenger HAS SERIOUS MONEY to SPEND.
Just stop with this “we do not have money to spend” mantra, because it’s not true.
I don’t think that we can spend 130m, but surely we can spend 40m and buy 2 world class players, sell useless players and buy another quality player or 2.
We have a very good 1st team, but our bench is crtap.
OK Albo, I agree to that. Plus we need some reserves for the bad times….. and boy, ur going to need reserves when the next crisis comes.
I hope Wenger is telling the board to use those reserves to invest in cotton, corn, soya, cocoa etc. Money will be worth nothing. Restructure the Arsenal Holding and Arsenal club and Arsenal investments etc.
Thats my 5 cents to the debate/argument
*crap