Little Mozart said yesterday we have to stop with the ‘we were unlucky’ excuses and start to deliver against the top teams, he’s bang on there, if we want to win the league we need to start winning away against the top four, five and six.
We won’t have our best player, Jack Wilshere, but we will have Cesc and Theo and those two can put a dent in anyones defence, with Nasri and Chamakh having a purple patch we are starting to deliver.
I thought Djourou had a good solid game and he is starting to look like the big lump I have been crying out for at the back, if he continues too improve then Wenger will have some tough choices to make, for me always play the form players, not your favourites.
Much was made of our 5-1 win on Tuesday, yes it was awesome, but was I alone in thinking we were average at best until we scored the second? We need to come out the traps on fire on Sunday, we need to have a shot when one is on and not try for the perfect goal, and we need to get an early one too.
They have two players that can hurt you in Tevez and Silva, if we keep them quiet then we can out pass them everywhere else.
I also read that Denilson thinks it’s time that Brazil called him up, hmmmm and that’s the problem with a lot of players these days, Rooney thinks he’s too good for the Mancs, he thinks he deserves more, well as an England fan Wayne, I think you are so far up yourself you’ve forgotten how to play football. First time I can remember feeling sorry for rednose, I sure hope we don’t enquire, there’s about a dozen I’d have ahead of him and 3 of them we already have.
So a big test coming up for our newest centreback pairing, I think they’ll pass the test, the rest of the team is looking slick and I thought Theo looked sharp and somewhat bigger, or was that just me?
Have a great day Grovers, Pedro goes to the AGM later, follow the @arsenal_legrove for all the news as it happens and tune into his full report tomorrow!
skoda is to aston martin what fabianki is to buffon
A,
well, perhaps the fact that he has not improved during all these years counts for something then?
I really long to have someone between the sticks who will not cause me to look away whenever we concede a corner, that’s all…
To be fair to any young player.. they need a run of games to find some sort of form.
They can’t just come in and perform miracles!
Fabianski has always started mostly at away high profile games!
Lets see what he is like after a run of 10 games or so.
I agree he shouldn’t be in the Arse first team in the first place trying to become consisten, but thats how it is anyway!
i reckon he’s been slightly better than OK since the CL game
against partizan*
Pretty weird arguments today, we’ve smashed all three teams in our Champions League group, supposedly they’re shit and didn’t turn up, but somehow Citeh look good beating teams in the Europa League.
Citeh have a very good squad, they’ve had fuck all problems soo far and arm wrestled Chelsea into Submission and got the win against them, they’re dangerous but not perfect as Lech Proznan and even Blackpool showed.
I’d be happy with a draw because they’ll do what most teams do against us, unless Mancini pulls a complete surprise, they’ll soak up the pressure and attack us on the counter.
If with all the problems with inconsistency we have we manage a win, that’s not just any win, it’ll really mean something, hopefully that all the lesser players we have are beginning to step up, if we don’t then it’s back to the drawing board waiting for Van Persie to come back fit, and others to gain match fitness, or looking to the Janaury transfer window.
what I don’t like isthe fact that Szczesny is rotting on the bench, when he should be playing – hopefully, he will be our cup keeper now and we will get far…
Keyser,
if Mancini has any brains, that’s exactly how he will play us, because it is effective and AW is yet to find out how to play against that…
Even my dog knows Flappy is shit. Is Szczesny as good as some people think he is? maybe we should loan him out to a championship side as that would be a good test for him
Choy – Exactly, you could blame Wenger for turning some fans into complete spaz’s who need someone to pick on all the time because we haven’t won anything for years and Fabianksi has choked when he’s been given the chance.
At the same time a goalie is our last line of defence if we’re subjecting him to a barrage of shots a game or not dealing with the physical threat of teams then he’s going to crack regardless.
Van De Sar didn’t put in Superhuman efforts to maintain his record of clean sheets, he basically did his job when called upon, which wasn’t often because he had one of the best teams in Europe in front of him.
Fabainki’s had a run of a few games, he’s still had to save one-on-ones and penalties, it’s not like he’s been sat on his arse all game and he’s handled it reasonably well.
Even against Shakhtar, straight after half-time, a player breaks the offside trap and he has to react quickly and while it was a poor finish, he made the save, that’s how thin the line is for him between people saying he had nothing to do and saying he’s shit anyway.
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brPWeQIc4Eo&fs=1&hl=en_GB]
I know it’s only League One and that he may need to improve his catching a bit, but fuck me, he is brave and effective…
i don’t see the point of keeping four goalies…
what’s the point of chezzer not being on loan?
Suga3 – He’s not rotting anywhere, I’d rather he stays there, because if he’s thrown in and despite his talent has a couple of shit games, he’s going to have people ripping him silly.
It’s not going to take much to completely destroy what little hoe people have built up for him.
Also it’s not about Wenger not finding a way through it, it’s us being able to play our own game well enough to get through it.
People can talk about the defence all they want, it’s our attack that has let us down in games like that.
Keyser,
at this age, he should be playing as many games as possible: ressies, cups, loans and the like, IMO…
how can he have just 6 months left to run on his contract is beyond me…
and on that note, I bid y’all good night
You have to question Wengers credentials as a top coach when he routinely gets outmanouvered by his rivals in the big games.
Suga3 – That’s pretty ridiculous mate, at that age he should keep his mouth shut and work his way into the side, if he doesn’t want a new contract, then off he goes and good riddance.
Outmanouvered ?!
Gooby..
Mannone’s just gone out on loan.
So we have 3 keepers atm.
ah thanks choy, i didn’t know that
bollocks to that, Keyser – I love his attitude, he knows all too well that he is head and shoulders above our ‘no.1′ & ‘no.2′…
to be honest, I would be pissed off if I were him too!
a good GK has to be a bit arrogant and slightly bonkers…
Is Almunia still injured ?
Meanwhile, Raul was free and looks to be still banging em in, couldn’t we have sniffed around Real Madrid for some quality bargains, instead of always going to France with our shopping list?
currently szczesny is certainly not head and shoulders above anyone else at the club.
he’s an exceptional talent, but one that isn’t ready for the prem yet, let alone with us. he was very good at brentford, but still made a good few mistakes. once he signs a new contract he’ll most likely be off out on loan, probably in january, unless he refuses to sign and therefore is off, or is our fa cup keeper
Suga3 – Nah that’s a load of shite mate, you’ve just said the Plish League is shit and then posted a video from League One ffs.
He doesn’t know how good he is because he hasn’t played at the same level, for all we know is that if he plays the same way Fabianski was introduced he’d feel the pressure in the same way.
Just because the goalies a bit mad doesn’t mean everyone else should be aswell, even Lehamn knew what he was doing when we used to take the piss.
it’s not like he doesn’t want a new contract either – you would think AW should see to it, judging by how keen he is to give new ones to Denilsons and Diabys!
DaleDaGooner – Hows he doing ? Has he scored a lot ?!
Sorry Keyser, quit right, its outmaneuvered.
gambon – Quit ? Don’t worry about the spelling, we’d never get anywhere.
Keyser,
well, there is not too many other videos available and some of these saves are pretty amazing, no?
Mystic Keyser knows that Szczesny does not know how good he is…
now I’ve heard it all…
huh suga?!
the club have been trying to get him to sign a new contract since the summer, they wanted to get one sorted so that he could go off on loan.
his not having signed on thus far is his own doing, not because the club havn’t offered him one
Suga3 – Pretty much the point, how he’s supposed to tell how good he’d be playing week in week out in the Premiership if he’s never done it.
Though I’ve always though I could make it at the top if I was ever given the chance.
what an asshole durham is…. i’d like to kick him in the balls if i get to see him….
http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/drivetime/blog/2010-10-21/durhams-rant-eduardo-ovation-sums-arsenal
A,
please – Szczesny has more talent than the other two combined, however, may not yet be ready to be our No.1…
he should be polished by giving him game time, not kept in the limbo – when does a third GK get to play?
he has to be loaned out, simple as…
A,
and what is your source? Szczesny says something completely different…
Al’s still injured!
I think he was dropped and AW is not going to come out and say so.
Raul couldn’t possibly play as the Lone striker in our system, the defenders would give him a hard time.
yeah he has loads of talent suga, but is currently not a premiership keeper, he’s very raw still.
i agree, he needs game time, and a loan. The only reason that has happened is because he’s refusing to sign a new contract, and refused to go on loan! I hope that those two issues are rectified by january so he goes out for the second half of the season, and signs a long term contract
Raul? fucking hell, how old is he, 120?
What did Szczesny say that was completely different?!
what the fuck are you talking about, A?
refusing to sign a new contract or go on loan? I have read his interview in a non-tabloid Polish newspaper and he said something completely opposite!
well, exactly opposite, to be precise…
A,
Not sure if i agree with that about Szczesny. I do agree it wouldnt be ideal for him to be number 1, but he would be better than the 2 guys we have played.
Its like saying “my 8 year old son isnt ready to fight Mike tyson, but my 7 year old “.
I really can’t be arsed to dig up that interview and translate it, but he said the club (AW) seemingly was not interested in signing him up for another few years and that he would need to consider his options – he actually asked AW to go on loan in the summer, but was clearly told he was in the manager’s plans!
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/szczesny-i-don-t-want-to-go-on-loan-again
That was regarding the loan.
“When you educated a player like we do with Szczesny, who arrives at the age of 16, it is a long-term investment which costs a lot of money, so you want to keep the players. We will talk to him about a new deal. We rate him and we want to keep him.”
That was about a month ago, but I heard in the summer that we tried to get him to sign a new contract, but his representatives wanted to postpone it, presumably because they wanted to see if he played at the start of the season in which case they could argue for more money.
gambon that’s not the case. Neither Almunia nor Fabianski are top class, but that doesn’t mean that an unproven keeper with only lower league experience would be as good, or even better.
Would be a massive risk, very unlikely, and potentially very damaging for a young player.
SUGA Szczesny told the Arsenal website, and another interview with someone or other in the summer that he wasn’t prepared to go out on loan again
Someone was saying Schesney’s a bit thick, think that sums up his comments to, if he’s good enough he’ll get a chance, who knows if he’s lucky we’ll have sorted out the attack and defence by then to.
oh, so now Pravda.com is the fountain of truth?
you really crack me up, A – coincidentally, the interview in which Szczesny said what I said he did was published a week or so before that…
Who’s going to start in CM on Sunday?
Cesc, Song and Diaby?
Keyser,
actually, he always struck me as reasonable and quite intelligent – his old man is a top bloke and WS is just a chip off the old block!
Who knows, he’s 20, he’ll have the best part of two decades to make it at the club and the top of his profession, if he’s moaning and whining now, that is pretty thick.
He should be working his aSs off and waiting for the chance to show people what he’s got, we’ve got a Carling Cup game next week ? He should be playing in that.
Keyser,
to see two clowns getting away with multiple cock ups is certainly demoralising and you would be pissed off I you were in his position too!
looking forward to see how well he does against Magpies…
really off now
“fountain of truth” SUGA?!
you can watch an interview with szczesny with him saying that, or are you saying he was lying?! or perhaps reading off a script under duress?!
he’s reportedly really arrogant and really quite dumb too, but still an exceptional talent
http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/talksport-rio-and-fergie-merk-wayne-rooney!-7281898/
genius
Imagine if we had this dude as a manager …
http://www.goal.com/en/news/166/europa-league/2010/10/21/2177338/leonid-slutsky-pleased-with-cska-moscows-response-after
the amount of abuse on Mr. Slut-sky would make him quit …
The whole Rooney thing has been a good laugh for me over the last couple of days.
But I’ve noticed a pattern…
The manc fans keep bringing up Ronaldo and how he couldnt stop talking about madrid, next they mention Tevez and how disgustingly he behaved towards
*”the greatest manager ever”…
Then they add the recent Shrek stuff in and it all starts to make sense…
We all know the players are greedy, we all are if we are honest.
But why would they all be so against Ferguson? surely if he’s the greatest bloke ever they wouldnt wage these public wars against him.
We’ve all had shit bosses but you do your time, look for a new job and get the fuck out of dodge, but it seems like they want to clatter him on the way out. Hurt him.
I almost felt sorry for Taggart recently when he looked all tearful an shit until I remembered what a despicable cunt he is, but maybe…just maybe…what we have all known for years is finally being admitted by these shitcunt slags he’s been paying sillymoney for and nickig of of theclubs that trained them.
Rooney is happy to hurt him, in public, after everything the Mancs have done for him.
Cesc couldnt say anything but praise for Arsene. An Cesc had a genuine reason to want to go home.
Old Taggart might be getting the public vote right now but I hate that bunch of cunts equally.
Ferguson almost fucking had me for a minute there.
The pissed up Scots cunt.
Its over red face, now fuck off.
*notice he aint so great when he cant just buy any ready made player for 30 odd million every season…
A,
these is nothing wrong with arrogance, I’ve had it with the nice and quiet choir boys in our squad – yes, they are all nice, but nice guys always come second, no?
and ‘dumb’? says who? the same people branding Denilson ‘intelligent’?
AA23
Old Sweaty Sock has driven manure into deep debt, & is probably what you say. But he has won 10 Premier League Titles, 2 Champions league Titles; numerous FA & League Cups, plus. I’d say history will judge the guy as one of the most successful managers ever
as much as it hurts me to say.
gnarley,
Alchy did not cause them to be in debt (from what I remember, they were pretty much debt free before the takeover occured), Glazers did and if Moray’s yesterday 9:43 post is anything to go by, they were pretty thick to agree to these interest charges…
or were they?
it’s only the sale of the players the old Jocko bought that still keeps them afloat, no?
gnarley
I guess it depends what authority or responsibility the manager should have.
Can you blame O’Leary for Leeds overspending? Benitez for Liverpool overspending or Ferguson for Man U spending beyond their needs?
U guess we come at it from a typically Arsene(al) perspective if we say yes.
I would argue that the Board and/or Chief Executive should be responsible for allocating the funds to the manager. now how they spend it is entirely a different manner. Seth Johnson and Aquilani are unforgiveable lapses of judgment, but if the purchases themselves were going to drive the club into the financial ground, then the Board need to overrule them..
Does anyone else think this ManUre/Shrek saga seems a bit ‘staged’??
Who’s Seth Johnson?
Oh the Leeds guy…
DDM, staged for what? What motive could SAF possible have??
Suga/Moray
Well there you go. What you say is fair call, so Old Red Nose isn’t guilty of driving them to the depths of deep debt. But his trophy haul is still the same.
SUGA3 – If you believe the Glazer’s first concern is the club, then I think you could say they were thick to agree to the charges, however as I understand it all the debt is leveraged against the club, yet they still have the legal right to withdraw cash for themselves.
So when they default, what happens? They recapitalise and borrow more money against the club. As far as I can see, it is the club’s debt and not theirs. That is why it doesn’t really matter if the club’s debt snowballs – they can walk away at any time without losing a penny, and keeping what they have already plundered.
This is as I understand it at least.
My point is/was that Old Oatmeal Savage has been a very successful manager. With what is happening now, well blimey he is in his 60′s. Nothing is for ever. i guess The manure fans will be the ones who learn all about that now
Their party is coming to an end!
DDM, by all accounts Rooney came back this summer and told the club he wanted to leave. Both parties have had a while to plan their PR strategy: Rooney will want to “justify” his actions to lessen the fallout with the fans (though slating the club has not proved the best way to do that) and Red Nose will want to make it clear he has no responsibility in Rooney’s actions, to keep his legacy shining for when he moves upstairs.
In this way, I think it is staged for sure.
How you been DDM?
Gotta disagree with you there gnarley, i’d put the debt situation squarely at the door of the Glazers, regardless of how much old red nose spends. His spending was sustainable before the yanks loaded the debt of buying the club onto the club….
Still, who cares, fuck ‘em all, fucking inbred northern cunts….
DDM
I’ve changed my opinion. I’ve taken the Glazier factor on board, chamoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Another thing…I read this morning that Rooney has masked thugs holding protests outside his house and threatening his life. It reminds me of Liverpool fans threatening to kill Gerrard’s family if he moved to Chelski a few years ago.
How can anyone seriously justify supporting clubs whose supporters behave like that? I know Arsenal are considered a bit old school, but that is ridiculous.
Rohan – I dunno, just something smells about this, already reports are emerging on the wires that Shrek has ‘changed his mind’……
Moray
……. or fans who burn effagies of players after a loss and/or kill players relatives. Not very civilised IMO
Hey gnarley, tired mate, fucking tired of many things, tired of work, so i’m taking some time out of the rat race, tired af Arsenal/Arsene bollocks, so i took some time away from the pain……
How’s things with you and the sunshine state?
Chamon!!!!!!! No fucking ‘eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee’ you mungler
Morning all,
DDM, maybe Shrek has been “persuaded” by the masked thugs! Anyway you look at the situation, its good news. How they are going to resolve the debt issue, I have not got a clue.
hmm, most hateful player in football?
we should conduct a poll.
I always despised Teddy Sherringham.
What a prize cunt!
Re Shrek. Someone said a few days ago that it cannot be about the money as there is a £150k/wk offer on the table. Well, it will be £200/wk at City. £50k/wk extra?! A WEEK! Blimey, that would test most 24 yr old’s loyalty.
Moray,
No poll required. I think you have hit the nail on the head in one there!
Wotcha MD89
So, they kept this situation under wraps since Aug 14th.
So, what do you all think happened between the end of the last season and the 14th of August?
Me too DDM
Too much working, make gnarley a dull boy.
Moray
I always dispised that turd Brian McClair, for his inciting an all in brawl in ’90/91 season which cost The Arsenal points deducted. Still won the Title in a canter, but thats not the point
One word: Emmanuel Adepaymemore
thats 2 words
Wotcha to you too DDM
Is LeGrove loading slower, or is it my laptop? Maybe time to lighten the load on the front page. Release The Dogs, I say! Or maybe substitute them for sleaker, lighter cats.
MIDI ive been having the same probs on my laptop.
Micky, surely pussies should be on a spuds fansite?
I have no problems. Maybe that’s cause I have the fastest internet connection in the world. I kid you not.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/04/your-fastest-internet-in-the-world-is-found-in-berkeley-ca.ars
Morning all
Yes, Happy Birthday wenger
Stoke’s new training method.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-IPkH_tz1o
The best thing which can happen to Arsenal on Wenger’s birthday is giving him a P45.
hilarious
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11604098
Jaguar knows nothing about football, why don’t you honour the bet?
Seriously jaguar, your changing your name to Chamakh is a decent striker is such pussyfooting on your part. The bet clearly stated: “Jaguar knows NOTHING about voetball”
Rohan,I know everything about football.I predicted all the results correctly.All you know is bleating about the wanker Wenger all the time.
Jaguar seems to get a lot more right than some of the AKBs on this site, who are too scared to make a bet that involves changing their name.
So you’re not going to honour it then?
Same as people who ditch their season ticket cos we don’t win anything.
gambon is that a genuine comment?!
Jaguar predicts us to lose pretty much every game, or draw against crap teams.
If you make a bet you should honour it obviously – it’s a wee bit pathetic not, it isn’t as if the forfeit for losing it is that extreme!
Sooooooo, team for Sunday?
I’m going for
Fabianski
Sagna Squillaci JD Clichy
Cesc Song Diaby
Rosicky Chamakh Nasri
Pretty much picks itself apart from perhaps Arshavin for Rosicky, or maybe Theo for Rosicky
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/KatieMod/sydmgif.gif
http://football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6459403,00.html
Tapped up by City?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_RdLGZ89uU
Chozzer,those season ticket holders have the right to ditch it as they pay over the odds and all they get to watch is the crazy obsessions of a lunatic Frenchman,and some of his shit love children.All of those people,who bleat about Wenger are either
1)The ones who have never spend a penny for Arsenal or never been to the club
2)8 year old kids,with no ability to think
3)Spuds fans,who are happy to see that Wenger will take us down outside the top four.
Jaguar knows nothing about football.
New post!
Chozzer if you cant recognise the difference between someone who cuts down on how often they go due to not winning, and someone who isn’t happy with the profit based agenda at the club & awful decision making then you are more of a mong than I thought.