Why? Because we suffer the growing pains, then when the said player is of a high enough standard, one of the elite mob make him an election promise.
How often do Chelsea, Liverpool or Manchester United sell players they don’t want to? By my reckoning… not too often. Liverpool lost Alonso a couple of seasons back becuase Rafa treated him terribly, United sold Ronaldo against their will but generally Fergie decides who stays and who goes. Chelsea never seem to lose players they don’t want to…
Arsenal on the other hand haemorrhage players all the time. The latest transfer saga is Cesc Fabregas who will no doubt be off this summer to whoever can pay his substantial transfer fee.
So where have we gone wrong here? For me it’s in buying young foreigners. We buy them in, watch them painstakingly become adequate, then we get one good season out of them… then they start whoring themselves out like an FA secretary.
In the old days we used to buy journeymen foreigners. They’d done their travelling, made their mistakes and by the time they’d arrived at the home of football, they were ready to give us their best years and more importantly, they were hungry. Freddie Ljungberg, Paddy, Dennis Bergkamp, Thierry Henry, Overmars, Gilberto all had the similar backgrounds. (although Freddie was young)
When you bring players in at 15, by the time they enter their prime they’ve been at the club for ten years. That’s a long time to live in a foreign land and they rightly think the grass is greener in a hotter country. Factor in that these kids are paid vast sums of money, trained in what I hear are 7 star facilities even by Premier League standards and never criticised. They don’t know hardship once they’ve been with us a few years which is why so many regret leaving.
How can we combat this problem? Well, buying players who are around 23-26 is a good start. Arshavin, Chamakh, and Vermaelen are all unlikely in my opinion to be pushing for moves away from the club any time soon.
The other option is to really put an emphasis on British and Irish kids. Why? Well, firstly it’s cheaper to scout them. Secondly they tend to fare better in the Premiership. Thirdly, they’re they don’t want to bother themselves with another language… so a move to Madrid or Milan is off the cards straight away. Unearthing gems like Aaron Ramsey and Jack Wilshere is far more likely to deliver us long term stable success becuase generally, once you play for a top 4 club, you don’t move. You become part of the furniture, you appreciate the fan love you get in the streets and all your family are within a few hours drive or a cheap Ryanair flight home.
Wellington Silva could be the next Ronaldo (the fat one), he could bang in 30 goals a season for 3 years… if he becomes that player, how long before he’s on Madrid’s radar, how long before we’re talking about what we’ll have to do to replace him? The fact is, foreign kids don’t share the same passion for the club the foreign fans do mainly becuase they don’t share our culture.
If the 30 goal a season striking sensation’s name was Kenny Johnson, I’d have far more confidence we could keep him. If you can turn a pub player like Song into an acceptable footballer over the course of 3 years, you can do that to Irish, Scottish, English and Welsh kids.
More and more studies reveal that very little in life comes down to natural ability. It’s all about hard work and getting the right breaks. If we focus more energy on local kids, we could have a staple of Arsenal legends on our hands to rival Chelsea, United and the players Arsene inherited when he joined the club. Hey, you know what, we might just have such a situation developing right now!
I know people think that Arsene invented Youth team football, that avoids the annoying fact George Graham gave him 6 or 7 top quality players who served him very well in his early years… the common denominator there? None of them ever requested a transfer, none of them had an interest in moving away and none of them were foreign. Tony Adams only ever had one club.
British ignorance could be a strategic advantage over the next 5 years. It’s about bloody time it did us a favour!
P.S. The interest Arsenal have in Kevin Doyle is genuine, they think he’s a fantastic player. Don’t be surprised if he makes the move one day. Also, I am fully aware that the Irish could be classed as Foreign, but culturally we’re the same… binge drinking till the end of time!
Rohan, saying you watched it makes you as sick a puppy as the bloke who thought of it.
Still all these computer games are as bad, Grand theft auto and all those games should be banned.
Those birds deserved it anyway, they always breakdown and go looking!
Come join the nerd herd at Berkeley with me, Mayank. Don’t listen to Pedro. Aren’t you a mech.e?
I was forced into it, Geoff. Not my choice at all.
“In Arsene we Rust”
Has a good ring to it.
I like it.
Folks need to be reminded we had a very good chance of winning it last season but Arsene well and truly fucked us over in the name of profit
hahahahahaha. What the fuck kind of thinking is that Geoff? They went looking. Its far more likely that you get killed by staying roadside in your car than go looking for help.
just seen the trailer for human centipede.
looks effin hilarious
the thing i hate about all these movies is that doesnt anyone have a bloody cell phone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az7pn5zfUsU
Whats annoying is that these movies ALWAYS have some idiot on a road trip traveling somewhere at night and driving through the woods.
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS9ZSkFwTM4&fs=1&hl=en_US]
IN ARSENE WE RUST,that phrase absolutely hits the nail on the head these days.
Mayank
congrats bro which stream u want to specialize in ? I was also looking to go to USA through GRE but than decided otherwise due to a variety of reasons ,wats ur TOEFL score
Rohan
what else are u forced into, maybe having an orgasm when Bendy scores
Rohan
do u plan to return back to India in future
The nerd herd! haha! Nice one Rohan.
Liam Brady was our last good Irish player but he left and joined Juve so I dont think Irish players have alot of loyalty to English clubs. Being Irish myself
In Arsene we rust is boring and predictable like wengker, denilshit etc. No imagination. It’s also been around for ages.
I see alot of Kevin Doyle and he is ok but maybe not good enough for Arsenal
Whats wrong with comments,my one split in two wtf?
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2010/10/12/2162036/arsenal-lacking-in-the-final-third-and-missing-cutting-edge
TOM TOM
that’s karma after ur appraisal for u know whom yesterday!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/commonwealthgames/8059419/Commonwealth-Games-2010-India-beat-England-on-penalties-to-reach-hockey-final.html
Gr8 News
Haha Rohan, I’d love to join Princeton but my meagre graduation marks won’t let that happen. Also I don’t think I can afford it without the scholarship I won’t get. How’s the Mech dept. there?
Kushagra I haven’t given TOEFL yet.
Kushagr
They must have cheated
Mayank
We are in the same boat meagre graduation marks .All hail the backbenchers
You mean the great Igor Stepanovs? When you think about it Wenger did sign some real turkeys.
Everyoine signs \turkeys TOM TOM. Bischoff was one of the most stupid though.
vucinic injured in warm up. lucky cunts
Ireland V Slovakia is starting soon,its painfull watching our long ball tactics.
goonermichael
yeah we should have defeated the english in normal time but our forward line played “The Arsenal Way”,kept cheating the goal posts and the net
haven’t taken * … Mayank
I’d be a backbencher if I attended any classes. Not so funny now though.
Tom, Which manager hasn’t? I think most would agree that Wenger has a better success record that most if not all the managers after the PL was formed.
Dude i agree. I would hate us to buy a kid like Messie, or that new kid Lukaku or that other kid HAzard. why buy them when one can buy the wellbecks and the Cleverlyes of the world? True hardworking workingclass kids. Especially cleverly. hes true english…. I bet his ancestors fought in the war and BLEED i repeat BLEED for their county. Now young Tom does the same!
That is the guys we want. not some fancy smancy hazard or lukaku from Belgium! Or couquelin or Sunu or god forbid BEndtner and Vela. Shit foreginers! DaSilva.. bleh they all suck. ENglish i say! Engluihs ! We should buy Andy carrol! Hes a real man!
TOM TOM
yep mate,be careful what u wish for
Cheeky sod.
Anyway I don’t take tests, I give them, a bit like Eboue.
He gambled on Bischoff and maybe he had talent but he was just unlucky with injurys so I dont blame Wenger for that
Kreshnik
ur comment is a scathing indictment on the Gre scoring system, u exposed Mayank
lol Snig I’m having trouble deciphering your post, I’ve read a few that I thought to be tongue in cheek but weren’t.
Benitez was probably the worst manager for signing turkeys.
Mayank
I’ll do my M.Tech in India only maybe IIT’s .best of Luck to you bro .Gud nite lads!!
What about signing a homeless tramp Snig? United did it lol
I’ll either start working full time or do it from a proper College. I think IIT’s are way out of my league and the other’s aren’t that good.
The only touch Bebe had, sent the ball out of play when Utd needed to score. TO think Utd could’ve got VdV for the same amount.
Apparently they used ‘In Arsene we rust’ on talk sport after the WBA game.
The first mention on here was the 23rd of May.
Talk sport read LG.
I wouldnt take that as too much of my compliment Pedro. It surprises me more that talksport can read.
Pedro I’d keep that info to myself if I were in your place.
Not bad for a jock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-Obpz-9TTA
Rosicky is really back on form, he is really pulling the strings in Czech midfield….we have our little mozart back again now
GOALLLLLLLLLLLL
Surfer, it might be presented by idiots… but someone’s pulling the strings behind the scenes.
Like George Bush… thicko, or incredibly intelligent and playing the fool? Who knows…
Rosicky assisted both goals for the czechs
Huntelaar is on fire as well
Its tabloid media all the same Pedro. You are listening to the audio equivilent of the Sun. Talkshite.
Anyone hear of Andrew Webber? He told me to fuck off his blog as I was a typical bitter LG reader. I never even heard of LG before that but I read it everyday now
Pedro, it also means when they’re looking for things to wind up the fans on LG. Of course I don’t doubt for a minute they’d go to the most popular sites to get a feeling of the Fans of a particular club.
All US presidents have been averagely intelligent people with some amount of charisma with some very smart people behind them pulling the strings. In Bush’s case they chose a candidate who was needed to take the blame.
Where’s my tin-foil hat? Wouldn’t want the gov’t looking into my brain.
Tom tom very similar to my experience, I used to read Wrighty7′s blog where people kept referring to LG at the drop of a hat. Who needs advertisement eh?
Yeah I must go back and thank him for showing me the light and also tell him how shit his blog is
In Arsene we Rust is boring?
How bout Arsene FC?
Fuck me how slow is Barry? He makes Denilson look like Usain Bolt
Tom, the Australian guy who runs a blog? Looks a bit like a hobbit?
Surfer, what to do though! There is only so many times you can listen to an ipod on an 8 hour round trip. Sport is sport, it’s just a shame they have to appeal to the lowest common denominator…
Mayank, I appreciate they’re trying to wind us up… Arsenal fans are the worst for calling in… it’s pretty sad!
I’m not sure the Presidents are of average intelligence… Nixon was supposed to be a bit of a genius… shame he didn’t demonstrate it in the end, but we all fuck up.
Lee Atwater was the genius… he masterminded both George Bush seniors campaign… ruthless. They reckon if he’d been about later on… Clinton would never have got in.
Italy Serbia suspended ? Anyone know why ?
What happened to Kuyt, they’re showing him in an ambulance at the game … broke something ?
Serbian ultras. Before the game even started they boarded their own team bus and threw a flair at Sojkovic for his shit performance against Estonia.
Thought they gave Karl Rove (Overrated strategist) the credit for younger Bush’s victory.
Holland is such a beauty to watch without the fuckin butcher De Jong ….
Affelay, beautiful player! 2 goals, one assist!
Please wenger, sign him, just 5 million, he is out of contract in june!
Bloody hell Pat! You wouldn’t fuck with them! haha!
Dutch
If you think RVP is made of glass you’ve seen nothing yet. HELL NO TO AFFELAY.
I would take the Dutch mid any fuckin day, throw in Cesc, Wilshere, and Ramsey and you got the best mid in the world
Kresh
For about 2 days when 1/2 of them get injured.
wilshere to save the day for england
Afellay is overrated.
hehehe zeus … Sneider and Van Bommel are quite solid actually … VDV isn’t
Why’s that Pat? I haven’t seen much… but he’s looked good when I have.
to the tune of stereo mc’s step it up – to the left to the right tippy tappy tappy tappy is shite. wenger, he won’t quit. wenger, he won’t quit.
repeat ad infinitum
Pedro, maybe I should’ve said from Regan onwards. That is about when America decided it would dictate world policy.
I thought the Obama campaign was brilliantly done. The world would’ve voted for him if they had the chance.
Apparently Mannone fucked up for Itlay u21s today?? and they didn’t qualify for tournament in summer
Pedro – Your blog has some merit but I personally believe that SUCCESS is the true reason that players want to stay with their clubs. If Arsenal were winning trophies then only the money hungry players would want out.
If Arsene realized this, he would have put together a title winning team and then wouldn’t have to worry so much about Cesc et al wanting out.
Because he hasn’t improved a single bit since when I first saw him. Same old mistakes. Same old great goals once in awhile, but that doesn’t make a good player.
He’s 24 years old
JJ you make it sound as if Wenger deliberately didn’t assemble a winning team. For whatever reasons Wenger does believe that his teams at least for the last 2-3 season have been capable of winning.
JJ, Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher have stayed at Liverpool through title-less careers…
Ronaldo left United after they won the title and got to the Euro Cup final…
Adams and co never asked for transfers all through the so called dark times…
Kevin Davies on… dear oh dear.
Spain were winning 2-0. Now its 2-2! Come on Scotland!!!! hahaha
Why doesn’t he put on Wilshere? He’s good enough to start for England
Is Fab playing?
No, Xavi just came on though. Cesc wasn’t called up because he’s been injured
Mayank – Wenger went with the youth policy to get through the Emirates building years (he said so himself). Now we are through that and he has a new problem. He needs to alter his gameplan.
Pedro – There are always going to be exceptions. Besides, it is hard for Gerrard to leave Liverpool because no one will understand what he is saying anywere else.
Carragher is too crap to move anywhere else for a better deal and Ronaldo was money hungry as referred to in my original comment… and Utd got a good price.
Nope.
Thanks for that. I thought I’d read somewhere that he was called up to join the squad at the last minute.
We need to buy Kevin Davies and stop this tippy tappy shit.
Why did I want that shot to go in?
If I was on an England blog, I’d be Jaguar.
Davies main tactic, using his elbows, doesn’t work with refs that know how to play the game.
England lucky. Cracking volley.
Spain up 3-2. Llorente has been playing very well for them whenever he’s been called upon.
To clarify, I don’t fault Wenger for his approach during the Emirates building years but I do think he needs to realize that the current squad are just not up to it.
Too many injuries and not enough killer instinct/fighting spirit. If you have a team that has not won anything in 5 years then it is hard to have the confidence you need to push on. We tend to spiral after a defeat. As opposed to bouncing back and punishing the next team.
what a joke
wtfs the point of calling wilshere up if you aren’t even gonna play him when you’re in need of a goal. SWP doesn’t even play for shitty anymore.
How did Andrey, Samir and Tomas get on?
Rosicky assisted both goals in a 2-0 win. Samir came on 2nd half, but don’t know how he did.
Arsh played 87ish minutes
What a shower of shit
‘If I was on an England blog, I’d be Jaguar.’
Top comment Chozzer!
England won’t win jack all until this growing Arsenal crop of English players start running the show. Fact
Kevin Davies coming on is for the one of the lowest points in Englands last ten years.
At least Scotland went down with a fight against a world class side!!
Lucky i dont care at all really. Was a little dissapointed that the Volley late on hit Hart’s cross bar!!
And yes Im English.
Chozzer, that has to be the best comment I’ve read all day.
So Jack didn’t get a run out? Good for us I suppose.
Payet and Afellay to watch out for….
Sorry for the late reply. Physics lecture called. Unlike you, I do try and go to my classes haha
If its Mech.E Berkeley is definitely up there along with Georgia Tech. and UMichigan imo. Also, if you don’t mind shelling it out, with the budget crisis they have here, I would say you stand a pretty good chance as an int’l out of stater. I hear they have an acceptance rate of 20 percent….It’s not as much about grades as it is about work experience, research etc. which many tend to forget.
http://www.universityportal.net/2008/09/top-mechancial-grad-school-ranking.html
I may be wrong, but MIT is probably out of reach. I won’t recommend stanford coz they rejected me haha. Purdue will take anyone I hear and they’re not half-bad. Cornell is decent too although it’s in the middle of nowhere. I say, just give it a shot and apply for the heck of it. Make your final decision after they get back to you.
Why did that senile Crapello play Shaun Shite Philips instead of Jack Wilshite.
Boom……boom 1st ?
sorry not stanford, i meant CalTech..stanford’s just overpriced
Just seen a kid on the news complaining that only the rich can go to University now because of the increase in fees….I think the public might be a bit more sympathetic if he lost the brand new pair of Monster Beats headphones around his neck!!
haha Crapello.
Surely, it’s senile, retard, spic-agent Crapello?
If that Montenegro shot had gone in instead of hitting the bar, Hart would’ve had a similar ratio as Almunia of shots faced to goals conceded.
haha AJG…I didn’t even see the Shite-Phillips and Wilshite part of your comment.
Its good Wilshere got a rest….. god knows we can’t afford another injury.
Team for Brum
Fab
Eboue Squid Koz Gibbs
Song Fab Wilshere
Nasri Nikki B Arshavin
Kreshnik says:
October 12, 2010 at 20:46
Italy Serbia suspended ? Anyone know why ?
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Serbian “fans” were throwing projectiles at their own keeper
return of the king, nikki pink boots
choy bendtner isn’t quite back yet, certainly not to start. Reckon he could get his first start back against newcastle in the league cup. i’d go with that team though apart from chamakh for bendy, and clichy for gibbs as gibbs is injured i believe?
———fab——-
eboue-squid-kozz-clichy
—–song–jack——
–nasri–cesc—arshavin
——chamakh——–
nasri has been outstanding form france, MOTM against roumania.
diaby did ok today, it was Luxembourg though.
I think he’s fit A, I don’t think he will start though.
Shite forgot that Gibbs is injured!
Nasri needs to be more direct, he just holds on to the ball a bit longer than required.
He’s Hlebish with shooting boots.
ah ok choy, hadn’t seen that, just previously him saying three weeks and a couple of reserve games.
Hell fucking yeah, His Royal Pinkiness is back.
Get ready Chamakh, you’re going down down down. I expect him to come off the bench on Saturday and rescue us with a goal in the 95th minute. I’m joking, let’s hope it doesn’t come down to that.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/sunsport_columnists/3175090/Ian-Wright-If-FA-wont-act-put-Nigel-de-Jong-in-court.html#ixzz12A7Uc7q3
I don’t know if some one already posted this or not and I’m not sure how many times this has already been debated so please excuse my ignorance if you will.
I’m just wondering why no-one and not even a gunner legend like Wrighty wrote such columns in support of Rambo and Arsenal.
@ rohan: ‘his royal pinkiness’lol; better than what we call him here a pink panther
N, De Jong = Dutch, so dirty cheating foreigner. Result = arrest him
Ryan Shawcross = English. Result = Not that type of player. Call up to England squad.
Martin Taylor = English. Result = Not that type of player. FIFA rule no suggestion of intent.
Wrighty = media whore. He can go fuck himself.
Bendtner’s absolutely useless. Adds nothing to our attacking department.
Good news is Walcott is back
Don’t you like our pink oboe, David?
David, I disagree, read my post today to see why!
Haha…for the first goal it looked like Tomas was pissed off he didn’t get a return pass! He’s not used to people shooting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f54GhVhl7Y8
haha good point. He probably thought the laws of the game forbid it.
I remember Rosicky getting two screamers in one game at the world Cup just before he joined us. Belters from outside the box. It wasn’t against England, was it?
I remember thinking we had a guy with a hell of a shot on him. Perhaps he’s afraid about breaking his glass foot? Or just playing alongside Hleb for too long.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTwWkxQLEQk
Moray, the USA I think!
I bet Hleb scores against us at the weekend. that would be 100% Arsenal. The guy scored 2 goals a season for us when he played for us, but I bet anything he knocks one in. Maybe a crack from the halfway line or something ridiculous.
New post flies in at 0900 sharp… get on your F5 Key!
Catch you later
Moray, not possible, read my post in 5 minutes, all will be explained.
You have him locked in your cellar, Geoff?
No, God spoke to me last night.