Good morning to you all! I’m writing my last post for a week before I head out to Ibiza on scouting mission of a non-footballing nature. Geoff will be taking on match reporting duties for the first time this season tomorrow, make sure he does the player ratings!
First up, we’ve got a logo to back our campaign to kick, kicking out of football (Geoff billed me £15k for it).
If you run a blog, get the logo on your site and write a story about brutality and what you think, we’ll start revolution! Maybe someone could put a youtube montage of horror tackles together and put the campaign logo at the end? E-mail in if you’re good at that stuff!
So, the team news is good. Diaby, Rosicky and Eboue are all in today’s squad.
The other good news I heard is that the coaching staff are expecting Cesc to be available for the Chelsea game. He’s been stretching out in the gym and he should start training next week. That’s bloody great news. I’d like to see if we’re good enough this year without the excuse of injuries. If we’ve got Cesc in the team, Diaby and Song in the midfield, we should be able to compete. Apparently, if all goes to plan, we should have a full squad to select from after the next international break. Theo, Bends and Rambo are all back running…
I don’t think the news is good on the Vermaelen front. He broke down in training last week and needs to rest apparently. He’ll be a big loss against the Chav’s if he doesn’t recover, but the flip side of that is that at least Koscielny and Squillaci have had the chance to continue their mean partnership.
It was good to read that Wenger has said Chezzer will get his chance. I don’t suppose he could dismiss the Pole’s opinion easily… Fabianski’s career is clearly in tatters at Arsenal and I don’t hold out too much hope for Mannone coming good any time soon. Chezzer looks the part, he talks the talk… I just hope he doesn’t get thrown in at the deepend too soon.
I would dearly love to talk about our terrific financial results, but I find it all incredibly boring. It’s brilliant that we’re well run, I’m glad we’ve paid back all our expensive debt, I’m a little disappointed that we’re bragging about £56million profit (with £127mill in the bank)… yet we couldn’t stump up for a proper goalkeeper. I’d prefer it if we were talking about £36million profit with a world class performer between the sticks. Talk of the potential war chest doesn’t get me excited either, what would Wenger do with £60million that he didn’t do with £30million?
‘We make a profit because we don’t spend – it’s as simple as that. What is unbelievable is that people reproach me for making a profit but no-one says a word about people who lose money.’
That’s terrific Arsene, but you’re paid to win trophies and by the way, plenty of column inches are devoted to slating the clubs that spend wildly beyond their means. Wenger loves using extremes. He is an extremist, just in the other direction. No one asks him to spend us into oblivion, we just want more focus on developing the team instead of the tunnel vision we have for increasing our bulging cash surplus that doesn’t benefit the fans in any way.
It’s nice of Wenger not to mention the huge part the fans play in giving Arsenal their profits. No one else in the world pays what we do.
Wenger complained that people criticised him for not buying Chamakh for £20million. Sorry, that wasn’t the criticism. The problem people had is that he needed a striker, he failed to sign Chamakh, there was no plan B and ultimately that cost us points.
He also spoke of developing talent and how it wouldn’t happen if he bought players. Again, what a load of rubbish. Barca spend heavily, yet their team is full of young talent. Jack Wilshere is vying for position with loads of top creative players at our club, he’s succeeding because he’s an amazing talent.
That’s the way it should be. The best players force their way into contention. We shouldn’t be sticking them in at 19 if they’re not good enough. We shouldn’t then brag that we were right after 3 years when they do eventually blossom, especially if the trophy cabinet is empty. All you’ve proven is that if you give anyone with a bit of talent 100 games, the best facilities and the best coaches… chances are, they’ll at least become proficient at the game.
Couldn’t it be argued that Chamakh is killing Bendtner or Carlos ‘Fowler’ Vela?
Wenger speaks of this list he can provide of players who have gone on to make careers elsewhere. Last time I checked, that didn’t matter to me or any other Gooner. We’re not a University. I don’t care that our failed youth goes onto make huge amounts of money else where because at the end of the day, life isn’t over if they fail at football… they just become like the rest of us and that’s not too bad thank you very much.
The ego of Wenger really does irk me sometimes… he’s constantly trying to manipulate fan aspiration and so many lap it up. Sadly there isn’t a trophy for creating the most careers, for being the king of profit or for polishing a turd over 3 very painful years.
Anyway my major fear is that we’re going to be ripe for a LBO (leverage buy out), then as fans, we’ll be back to square one, the current board will be able to retire even richer than they already are, then we’ll be skint like United and Liverpool. I’d like to think there’s a way around that happening, sadly, there’s nothing that can be done, once a billionaire owns a club he can do as he pleases.
I heard a certain American family has lumped all their other businesses debt on a major club in the UK, now they’re looking for a buyer for a whopping £1.2billion.
I’d hate for Arsenal to have to go through a despicable ordeal like that.
Still, we won’t mull over that today… today is for football and wondering how Honda can justify £427 on a service?
WBA come to town today off the back of a terrific win against Manchester City (Did you hear Mancini concede the title already?). I don’t think we have too much to worry about, we’re in great form, we’re defending well and we have far too much quality to let the midlanders bother us.
Footballistically, Arsenal need to nick two early goals so I don’t have to suffer palpitations of the heart in the last ten minutes. We need to be patient, play with discipline and go for the kill with the goals. We’re 10 off Chelsea on that front. It’d also be nice to keep a clean sheet. We’ve not got too many of those considering how pleased we all our about our back line!
Line Up
Almunia
Sagna Kozzer Squillaci Clichy
Diaby (Prob Denilson) Song Jack
Nasri Chamakh Arshavin
Right, I’m off to get some much needed surgery to my golf swing. At the moment I am to golf what Fabianski is to being a pair of safe hands… however, I believe in my swing and my spirit is good.
Have a great day Grovers, crack open a Peroni right now, if asked why, tell them Pedro said so! Your partner will understand…
P.S. I hope Eboue gets the 1000th Premiership goal. I’ve heard he’s prepared a special dance if he does… for a sneak peak, see below…
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Marko – I’d go back and read the comments after the Hull game, it’s not that they’re quick, some are just not as positive as others and we’ve seen displays like this before.
They’re entitled to their opinions, we just need to wait and see how the team bounce back. That was poor by Almunia.
Disagree David but there’s no point in arguing. Isn’t Van Persie back mid this month and Bendtner back training already? It’ll be good to have an almost full compliment of players for the winter games.
David – Ebway and Sagna both played today, what are you on about ?!
OH NO OH NO. THE WORLD IS GONNA END BECAUSE WE LOST TO WEST BROM AT HOME. NEVER MIND THAT WE HAVE 32 MATCHES LEFT. FUCK THAT. ARSENE WENGER HAS BROUGHT THE APOCALYPSE UPON US. HELLLLPPP
No excuse for this loss.
We played on Tuesday and we the usual bollocks excuse of injuries and being knackered have settled in.
WTF. We are playing West Brom ffs. Not Valencia. Christ.
You cant tell me our midfield was knackered because we dominated possession from start to finish.
Call a spade a spade.
We were shite and NOBODY went after the ball when we lost it.
Koscienly is not ready as I said.
We wouldve still won if not for ALmunia.
Pick 3-4 key players from every team and if they don’t play the majority of games, either you have to have the rest of the squad completely fit, or your squad’s far too deep for your competition.
We know we don’t have as deep a squad as Chelsea, so if we don’t keep players fit we’re not winning anything.
I’m done with defending all of them.
Why the fuck didn’t they think it was a good idea to have a few shots until they were three nil down?
I’ll tell you why because they’re all spineless and want to leave it up to someone else to take responsibility
fucking bunch of show pony cunts the lot of them
Bingo Keyser. I’m not deluded and I’ll make no excuses for that piss poor display today but I’m also not throwing in the towel and fully expect us to bounce back with a win against Belgrade and a performance against Chelsea whether thats a win or a draw the performance is the important thing. It’s important that we show our potential title credentials next sun and that means heart and fight
El Tel
The fact that you use an ex Spud mangers nickname should tell everyone all they need to know about you! How the fuck can you blame Almunia for last week’s goal? Yes, he was at fault for the second today but he injured his shoulder SAVING THE PENALTY that everyone seems to have forgotten and should have been taken off after that. I am not saying that he is anywhere near good enough but for fucks sake, let’s get things in proportion you womens willy!
We can’t always score all the time, we need our defence to take ownership sometimes.
We can’t always score 3-4 goals just to win a game!
Games like today if we hadn’t conceded those silly games, we would’ve probably won! But we won’t when our DM thinks he is Maradona !
The only chance we had against Chelsea is to go there with some confidence. whatever tenuous grasp on that we had has just been shattered as always and we are now left with a half fit squad of chokers.
Chelsea will kill us.. i don’t even want to watch it
Here comes the Koscielny shite shite. Yeah no he’s rubbish let’s rid of him
The fact that Sagna started ahead of him means Arsene has his favorites so youre claim that whichever player is playing better football will be picked ahead of the other based on performance is wide off the mark.
Silliest thing I’ve ever read. Do u really want to see Eboue at Right Back, a half decent defender and semi good attacker. Or do u want to see Sagna who is an ok attacker but World Class defender..
Do me a favour David
Agree Choy Song needs to get back to sitting in front of the defence and forgetting about chipping goalies
Speaking of Koscielny.. what the fuck was he doing for their second goal??
Perhaps he should have bought a fucking season ticket if he’s just gonna sit there and watch the fucking game
HOw can Chelsea’s squad be deeper than ours when they have only registered 17 players out of the 25?
Your missing the point.
We lost to Hull in the same fashion last season through complacency and lack of desire.
Let me ask you a question.
Did the team look knackered after we went 3-0 down?
HB… I don’t think we will.
Today we were very complacent. We thought that they would just roll over
We’ll give a good fight against the Chavs, in all probability we will still lose but I don’t think we will see such a tepid display against the bigger sides!
Seriously These excuses are as lethargic and pathetic as the performance
Choy – It’s not one or the other, the whole team has to, if Arshavin can’t/ won’t track back to help out Clichy mark the next closest man that’ll pick up the second pass.
That’s what happenes when the team changes from one game to the next, the more changes you make the more errors you’re likely to make.
We’re stretched as a squad at the moment, I hate the idea of it, but if Fabregas goes and Van Persie doesn’t have a period without injury, we’re going to have to replace both of them.
HB.. Koz now realises how shit Moony is!
He closed down the angle and the WBA fella shot straight at Moony! and it went in!
Fuck sake Sixx Pac and Keyser
Read the whole story before jumping into a conversation and mouthing out of your arses.
I think Squillaci could have done more for the third goal
choy.
I don’t care if we had Buffon and Casillas in goal both at once, He had to know that letting a player run freely into the box and have a shot is not good defending. for fuck’s sake that is pure rookie shit
Keyser , Marko
I read people slagging off the lazy attitude of AA23 and the lackadaisical play of Nasri all the time on here.
AA23 is………well Arshavin. Lazy then bam, but he was a shower of shite today.
Nasri has never and will never be a Fab4 replacement. He just doesn’t have those passes or the speed of thought to do it. Simple as. Its crazy to thinkk otherwise where he is concerned. But say what you want, late or not, when the chips were down, he was the only one that stood up to be counted.
I don’t know about the Clichy part. He is a defender and he got nutmegged today! and he’s been pretty shite recently.
We conceded 2 from his side again today.
He doesn’t get double teamed or something, its just 1 player going past him like he doesn’t exist!
Before you start blaming Arshavin, I’ve never seen Neville struggle when Ronaldo used to play, likewise Pires never really helped out Cole a lot defensively!
We can beat Chelsea, the only players of theirs I’m fearful of is Essien cause he’s class and Drogba cause he ups his game against us and he’s a massive cunt. IF Koscielny can play like he did in his other games except for today then we could get a result.
The third goal was hilarious!
WTF was Almunia thinking!
Drogba will score against us, that is for sure!
David – You’re not reading what people are writing and you’re just looking for an argument mate, just calm down.
You’re wondering about Ramsey, he hasn’t played because he’s spent 8 months out injured, if we’ve played Wilshire and Arshavin mid-week, and Diaby’s coming back from injury, do you honestly think Wenger’s not going to put in the teenager he spent 5 million on ?!
You’re not making sense, also of course they don’t look lethargic at 3-0 down, but that’s what completely fucks up as the season goes along, we went all out to get the goals, and people might not agree but we did show some heart from that point, but when you’re pushing it running on empty is how you end up injured.
The team needs to fucking learn to control the game, even if it means playing crab football for a while. With Arshavin not quite on form, we miss someone like Walcott.
I’d give Gibbs a go in the team but I don’t really shit myself when Clichy plays either. HE’s still good he just needs to be more focused sometimes. He generally turns up in the big games with the exception of United last season when Nani gave him a torrid time.
David I dont have to read all ur comments cause ur always spewing the same shite.
I dont get ur point with Diaby/Wilshere. Are u saying that if Jack were French he would start above Diaby
choy – I’ve read that from a couple of people now and it’s the biggest load of shit going, you mean Pires didn’t help out as much with Cole ?
Of course he fucking didn’t we had Vieira and Gilberto completely dominating midfields, it’s like the nutmeg bit, what are you watching ? Ok it’s bad he got nutmegged, who the fuck’s tracking the runner ?!
Ronaldo ? He did fuck all because United played 3 in midfield made sure he had cover and Tevez and Rooney worked their aSses off. Come on dude.
Look at how many people there are in the box for West Brom first and Clichy’s left on the back post with two of them, either the communication isn’t there, or people need to be far more aware.
Look at how slow Wilshire was to react with Brunt as he ran into the box
Ofcoarse i wont make sense to you because i was talking about last season.
If you want to butt into the argument at least read of the conversation i was having with Marko instead of mouthing of and making silly comments and then hillarious tell me im not making sense.
Ofcoarse it wont make sense youre only reading half the story. And i cant be arsed to repeat it if you wont read it.
Nevermind all of that
Where is the heart when it was 0-0 after half time?
None of the defenders covered themselves in glory. Kozzer seemed to be suffering from Clichyitis. Why he didn’t challenge for the 2nd instead of backing off is beyond me.
Looking forward to Chelse, I hope to God Wenger pulls Clichy and Song aside and tell them ABSOLUTELY NO GOING FORWARD.
Don’t give a shit if we are predictable. don’t give a shit if we don’t get with down the left. I COULD’t CARE LESS.
Song died his hair and all of a sudden he thinks he is Valderrama. Idiot. Stay back, your a DM.
Sixx
Stupid fucking question.
Is Arshavin and Almunia French?
If you cant be arsed to understand what the fook i was talking about then i cant be arsed to reply your shite either.
Hold on..
Wenger: ‘I didn’t recognise my team today’
on a shock defeat…We made it more difficult because we were not at our usual level. Not defensively, not offensively. Overall everything was difficult for us today – passing the ball, winning the ball back, winning the one against ones – and we got what we deserved which was zero points. We didn’t deserve more. The positive is that we did fight until the last minute but it was just not good enough at that level to get three points.
on Manuel Almunia…You can have question marks about many players today if you look at the performance, especially the defensive one. Many players made massive mistakes defensively.
on leaving Jack Wilshere on the bench…He has played many games. I believe it was not down to one player in or out, it was down to a poor team performance.
on criticism of Almunia…I do not want to come out on any individual performances because we were collectively poor. You could single out a few players who have made mistakes.
on a mystifying performance…Overall it was a poor team performance and we have to analyse why and make sure we respond well because we have had good performances since the start of the season. It is the first real bad performance and it is unexplainable how bad the whole thing looked for the whole game.
on failing to close the gap on Chelsea…It would have been even more disappointing if Chelsea had won. We don’t have to look at the results of the other teams, we have to turn up with our own performance and we didn’t do that. If we play like that we cannot look at performances of the other teams.
on next week’s trip to Chelsea…Of course it an important game when you play at Chelsea. I believe that today’s game was an exception – until today we had very, very good games. I didn’t recognise my team today and we have to sit down together to analyse what happened. Something is unexplanable in such a poor performance. It is always difficult to [sense it before the game] but something was not right and it is unusual to see a team as flat as we were today.
zeus – Point is he should’ve stood up sooner, he’s not a fab replacement yet, but he’s had nothing like the education Fabregas had, Fabregas has made his mistakes, learn’t his trade and now we reap the benefits, Nasri’s going to need games where he’s given the responsibility, it’s just going to be even tougher because there’s no-one else helping him out.
That’s what i wanna know..
If Nasri’s good enough to just waltz past defenders and score at will then why didn’t he think of trying it earlier?
No heart today. Thats my biggest gripe with today. It seems whenever there’s an opportunity after a poor performance or a defeat the first person people around here look to blame is the manager. I think he could do little but pick the team he picked today. I think the blame is fully on the players who looked out of sorts and lazy today.
Nasri’s not Fabregas mark 2 in fact I don’t think there is another player out there like him, not Ozil,not Hamsik and not Gourcuff. Nasri is for me more another Ljungberg
September is suppose the month we pick up our ‘easy’ points in the league but we lost one and drawn another. It gets tougher from here on onwards…
David – I understood it all, you moan about youth and then say they should play all the time, how old is Ramsey ? How longs he’s been with us and how many games has he had ?!
Simple fact is saying Diaby starts always is bullshit, he’s what 19 ? and he’s had his leg broken. Think about all the players we’ve got how many are that young and how many games they got.
He started 12 games last year and had 17 as a sub, Gibbs would’ve got games aswell, even Vela with all his injuries and friendlies for Mexico got 6 starts and 14 as a sub.
That’s 3 young talented players, look at Wilshire now, sometimes you put in Diaby or Song because they’re more experienced or have more physicality, but you can’t say these players haven’t had games it’s ridiculous.
omg marko defend Wenker as much as you can, AKB!! WEnger is to blame for everything went wrong!!!
Honest Bill – Because he doesn’t know himself, it’s a completely different mentality once you’re 3-0 down with nothing to lose, he’s got to learn when to push on and when to take a step back, once we were down by 3 we just went all out, we scored 2 or we could’ve ended up conceding a few more.
Guys I would not blame DIaby.
What the fuck was Wenger thinking? throwing Diaby stright back in…The guy looked he was 30% fit…He was a passenger in the first half…..WHy the fuck didnt Wenger thank his lucky stars we came out unscathed first half and take the opportunity to sub Diaby for Wilshere half time?
Also he should not have started Eboue at right forward….
Both wide forwards should have composure in the box…meaning they can pass/score….Eboue does neother very well….therefore its like we are attacking with one less player its like playing 4-3-2 attacking…
He should have started JET on the right…this would have kept jerome at bay….JET would have bamboozled him….
If not then…..he should have started Arsha in Cescs position and send Nasri to the left or right….
Arshavin is the only other guy other than Fabregas that can execute killer passes… and get rid of all the sideways bullshit..
Wenger was arrogant and the players picked this up as well..they felt it was a walkover…The penalty did not wake Wenger up and so the players also remained asleep…
The fuckers did not even wake up at 2-0….only Song started to play with urgency at 2-0…only at 3-0 did all the players wake up….
and everybody is praising Nasri…fuck that shit….he would have never scored if it was still 0-0….He should play with that same urgency all the time…not when the game is completely out of reach….
When Chelsea get beat….they get bhem on the beat because the other team was better than them on the day..not because they were compalcent…same for Manure….they dont get complacent…they completely murder bottom teams.
Granted WBA seem like they wont be a bottom team this year…
Keyser I really I don’t get your criticism of Nasri. If the rest of the team gave half the effort he did we would’ve won that. If, as you say, he only started playing after we went behind at least he responded. You couldn’t say the same for the rest. Nasri has been good all season lay off him!
Yeah Keyser youre clearly confused…and youre making a bollocks argument with yourself there. So lets just let that one go.
And Arshavin can and would be helping Nasri out if Wenger would play him off the striker where he can play his passes with Nasri.
Its fairly simple.
Keyser exactly.. once he had nothing to lose.
That’s the problem. They are all always scared of losing. Very few of them have enough balls. Not a single one of them lacks ability, they just lack balls and a little common sense
Man – Nah dude, all players should take some blame, you don’t win anything with players that aren’t willing to take criticism.
I’m not saying it’s all his fault, but who are people kidding here, if we’re struggling to break teams down who should step up in attack ? Song or Nasri ?!
Arshavin and Nasri need to take on more responsibility.
Right I’m off. A win against Belgrade and we’ll go to Chelsea with our chins up. Keep the belief
Keyser, Nasri took responsibility. Even before he scored the goals he always seemed the most likely to get us back in. Stepping up and scoring two penalties is taking responsibility. Whilst you might have a legitimate point I feel it is misplaced in this context. If they all deserve criticism Nasri deserves the least.
What the fuck,was working when I heard it was 3 nil and I thought it was a joke. Our season could fall apart now but what can we expect from Wenger the tight cunt
Marko.
More like we will stick six paste Belgrade. think we’re the greatest team in the world and we’ve ‘turned a corner’
Then someone will try to do somme fancy flicks outside our own box at Stamford bridge, Drogba will score and our whole team’s Arsehole’s give way and we get embarrassed again
Answer your own question Sixx
When has a fit Diaby been dropped for Jack?
David – You were going on about favourites and how some players come back into the team regardless of form, you mentioned Diaby, Wilshire and Rosicky played mid-week, Wilshire’s played a part in almost all of our games this year I think.
It doesn’t make Diaby a favourite you plum, you have to rotate at some point, someone like Ramsey would have either got a game today or mid-week.
It’s just weird, you somehow make Sagna a favourite over Ebway, there’s peoplere arguing Ebway’s a favourite.
Could it be that Sagna’s usually a solid defender, or that Diaby/ Song are stronger or more physical ? Or aren’t they allowed games at all.
Thats the spirit Bill never give up mate. What’s the point eh
Man – The attaitube I think everyone of the players should take is ‘we lost/ we won, I could’ve done much more’.
Even if he deserves the least, it’s still something.
Ja Gunner Eboue played in Midfield. Not as a forward
Marko.
Trouble is i take the opposite attitude every time and end up looking like a deluded, misguided twat.. This was one humiliation too far, how can i get behind the team when they can’t even be bothered to go for 50/50 balls?
Today reminded me of the 08/09 season all over again. They couldn’t be bothered to try that year either
Our defence is a joke and has been for 5 years. Every good team is built on a strong defence but we have a shit defence and Wenger needs to get realistic about his transfer targets. We have so many average players now and we need a big clear out
Keyser,
Exactly, so why are we blaming Arsh for not babysitting Clichy?
And how did you feel tues Bill? Come on mate one defeat and you’re giving up. Don’t give up or don’t be one of those fans waiting for us to lose, almost willing it just to say I told you so. I think it’ll be like last season whoever wins the leagues will have between 3-5 losses.
David how many games has Jack started this year? Compare that with Diaby and you will get the answer. I dont get you sometimes, scratch that, EVER.
If you give an explanation for why something happens u say its an excuse. Pick up a Thesarus
Keyser its absolute stupidly ridiculous to make that assumption based only 6 games we played this season.
So let me ask you the same question I asked Sixx
When has a fit Diaby every been dropped for Jack, or Ramsey for that matter.
You said Ramsey wouldve played this game right?
When has a fit Diaby ever been dropped for Jack/Ramsey.
choy – Babysitting ?!
When we played United in the Champions League and Walcott was up against Evra, Rooney never left him alone, Clichy’s off form, but everyone needs to do their bit. I don’t know any team that just leaves their defence to get on with it, so everyone shoulder some of the blame.
I don’t mind if Arshavin doesn’t track back once in a while, but at the same time Ronaldo was scoring 20-30 goals in those couple of seasons, he either produces at that end of he does more to help out at the other.
Tuesday i felt fine.
That’s the trouble with Arsenal. we can all see they have the talent, they just don’t have the fucking character to apply it.
I never will us to lose. You think i want that prediction to come true? well i don’t, i’ve just seen it happen over and over again despite all my self delusions. I’m always saying
“We really look like we’re up for it this time”
“Our defence looks much improved”
“We look a lot more steely and gritty this year”
And then i’m the one who feels like a cunt when i’m proved wrong again. It is far from me wanting to be proved right, i just don’t want to be made a cunt of every year
LMAO
Im guessing you missed the part where i said a FIT Diaby?
And ive got the added bonus of laughing at your spelling of Thesaurus
David you’re argument is pretty thin. Jack Wilshere while a fan favourite has feck all experience and Ramsey was the same but they showed enough promise and ability to suggest that if showed that they could be relied upon and picked instead of Diaby. It’s like when Pedro or whoever was talking about when Denilson’s back he’ll walk straight into the team cause he’s a “favourite” or “Wenger’s love child” but thats shite Wilshere’s getting the games cause he’s performing well.
Fucking Ironic.
David – You’re talking complete rubbish, Ramsey is 19, Wilshire is 18, Diaby’s 24, Ramsey’s just spent 8 months out with a broken leg you plum.
How many oppurunities have there been to drop Diaby for either of these players, against Liverpool Wilshere even played alngside him. It’s not as if Diaby’s always fit as it is.
There’s nothing to base your opinion on, you’re just looking for things to argue about.
David Jack has only really come on the scene this season and he has played a part in all of our games this season regardless of whether Diaby has been fit or not.
This claim of yours lacks little substance really..it’s just looking to pick on Wenger…almost Jaguaresque.
Marko
thats my point..they show promise…and still Diaby gets picked ahead of them.
Would you rather a 30% fit Diaby start? Or a Jack Wilshere that tore the Arse of the spud defence?
We both have the same answer. Except our Dear Great Leader.
David – West Ham in the FA Cup last year.
I’m the most pessimistic fan, but I will only blame Almunia for 2nd goal…
The penalty, the 1st Albion, and 3rd Albion goals were due to defensive fuck ups.
He had no chance for either.
Both goals (not 2nd), and penalty were due to shocking defending!
Yes we still need a keeper, but how about a bit of blame on Sagna (awful) and Clichy (awful).
Hmm. U remember when Diaby got injured right? That game at Bolton? Yeah u remember. You do remember that Diaby came off the bench right? Remember he was on the field for less than 5 minutes? Remember who started the game? I think u do. Yeah you do.
Sixx pac Eboue did not play midfield…we play 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 ….he played right forward…….
I guess if it was 4-4-2..you can say he played a winger…but bottom line is….he is only a right back and should never play anywhere else….
The midfielders today were Song Diaby and Nasri floating…
Arshavin left forward….Eboue right forward….Chamakh…striker….
Simple as Sixx Pac
Another thing…Nasri cant play the Fabregas role….Arshavin is the only other man that can play that role in this team…because he has vision and is an excellent passer…especially those killer ones….Nasri is a dribbler thats all..and most times he dribbles in circles…
Right David the only reason I assume Diaby started today instead of Wilshere was Wilshere played 120 mins and got a few kicks against Spurs on tues and also the only way Diaby will get match fitness is with games and we’ll need his presence against a big Chelsea team. Anything there to suggest Diaby walked into the team cause he’s a favourite of Wenger’s? No
Wilshere was only not picked today to rest him as Wenger sees how important he has been to us. He just assumed that the other guys to do the job against relegation candidates at the fucking Grove of all places.
It’s inexcusable that we needed to rely on an 18 year old who has only played a few games for us so far
*sigh*
This is a joke.
Keyser
Should Wenger have started Djouru ahead of Silveste before Djouru got injured?
We are a team that supposedly gives youth a chance right?
Who gives a fuck what age they are?
AT what age did Fabregas get in the first team?
At what age did Denilson make 50 appearances for Arsenal?
Are you seriously feeding me that “he is 19″ years old bullshite?
Olympiakos away I think aswell.
David – It isn’t a joke, it really isn’t, it’s an ever concerning pattern with you.
You said Diaby’s a favourite, I’m saying it culd just aswell be because he’s got more experience or is physically stronger than the other two as they’re younger and not fully developed or used to the rigours of the premiership.
You asked when a fit Diaby had been dropped, well West Ham in the FA Cup, though I’m sure you’ll try to find excuses for that.
To suggest Diaby gets picked because he’s a favourite is silly, he gets picked in big games cause he’s played in them and he’s played in a world cup ffs. Wilshere is only on the scene but Wenger has shown that he’s more than happy to play him and he was more than happy to play Ramsey too especially when he was playing super, prior to his injury he was playing a lot.
Look, in the management of a young player and blooding him into a team, there’s no one I’d trust more than Arsene Wenger. Playing JW in 5 games in 2 weeks is hardly the best way to manage him. He did get a good half hour today anyway.
I fail to see what you’re talking about. Especially with the injuries that we get, it is imperial to rotate our squad as much as possible and keep everyone happy and fit.
I dont know Sixx.
Good shout…was he dropped or was it because he played for France against Bosnia and hence WAS NOT FIT!?
Hope you got your “Thesarus”
Rohan
I’ll put it to you plainly…
If Wenger can constantly play Denilson at 19 years old.
He can play Jack constantly at 19 years old
Wafer thin argument
Are you seriously advocating playing Jack Wilshere week in week out, especially against a team that we are expected to beat at home, after a gruelling 120 minute game at WHL and a flurry of games in the previous 2 weeks.???
Jack Wilshere has never played a full season playing week in week out in his feldglin career. The closest he came to that was Bolton last year and even then, he was carefully managed. You really don’t want to burn him out, the precocious talent that he is.
Marko
Should Silvestre be picked ahead of Vermalean because he played in the World Cup?
Silly Question.
My point is the inform player should play.
Jack is young enough. And at 19. He can play and should play week in and week out.
Why have a different standard for Cesc and Denilson?
Did Denilson not play because of injuries? Also Denilson was a regular in the Brazil under 21′s and played in the Brazilian league where as Wilshere has barely played for the under 21′s (thank you stuart pearce) and he is getting his Denilson like games now. Is he not? HE’s only on the scene
And who’s to say he won’t do that, David?? He’s already made 8 appearances this season.
I expect to easily have over 40 by the end of the season. Jack has been involved in EVERY game we’ve played so far including today’s…
David he is playing week in week out.. just not 3 games in a week!
Denilson played a full season of 50 plus games at 19 years old because we sold Gilberto and let Flamini go…remember that?
Okay im sick and tired of repeating myself.
Keep telling yourself its a thing argument.
You give the likes of Song and Denilson chances till the “come good” and the ones that actually have talent are kept on the bench.
But he is playing week in week out David. But he’s not quite the big game player we can rely upon just yet. Has Silvest even been to a world cup?
So that answer David.was it satisfactory. Wilshere started the Bolton game over a fit Diaby.
Glad I made u laugh. Should also point out to u that the term is of course and not of coarse
Jesus christ, he rested him for one fucking game. SO fucking what? He was first option off the bench anyway. You would think he’s plying his trade in the reserves.
Clichy has been poor Keyser, he is the weak link after Almunia!
You may not realize this but other teams are, and are exploiting this weakness!
I think everyone including Wenger would’ve thought that he could rest players today!
Looking at the games we’ve had and the games that are coming up..
The players fucked up massively! Team selection was alright, their attitude wasn’t.
David says:
September 26, 2010 at 00:51
Denilson played a full season of 50 plus games at 19 years old because we sold Gilberto and let Flamini go…remember that?
Okay im sick and tired of repeating myself.
Keep telling yourself its a thing argument.
You give the likes of Song and Denilson chances till the “come good” and the ones that actually have talent are kept on the bench.
Right now you’re talking non sense he is getting a lot of game time. And have those 2 not come good? They’re premier league players. “The Likes”
So fuking what?
We lost the fucking game and Diaby was fucking shite
Are you blind?
choy – What have I said here exactly ? Clichy’s been poor, but you can’t blame him for everything can you, or CAN YOU ?!
Don’t really get your point here.
This debate’s clearly going nowhere. Atleast with Bendtner, your points had some measure of validity to them. This is just prepostorous. I’m off.
You know I wouldn’t mind trying out Wilshere instead of Arshavin for the Belgrade game, just to see how he’d do and to keep Andrey on his toes
I’m just saying that he’s been poor and his form is terrible at the moment and Arshavin has nothing to do with it!
kneW you would find a fucking excuse. Of Course he was fit. Cesc played too. Why didnt he get dropped. Ur just blabbing for the sake of it
Yeah I’m off too. It’s sleepy time. Sleepy sexy time
Sixx
Well theres no way diaby wouldve been fit for the game…
He played his match on the 7th…got back on the 8th the game was on the 11th.
According to Wenger. He was not ‘fit’
and what else?
Marko
Since when did you start shifting the argument to say that Wilshere isnt getting playing time?
Who is arguing that?
Half time 0-0..Diaby was still shite…we went 1-0 down, 2-0 down….and still diaby stayed on the pitch?
So Jack shouldnt play because he’s 19 years old.
We’ve already sorted out that thats rubbish.
Should he also not play despite going 2-0 down?
JA
AA@3 is FAR from Cesc’s level as well. His passing is even less effective than Nasri’s. Absolutely wasteful in possession.
Wenger wasn’t arrogant, that was the best team to put given injuries and fatigue concerns. Poor that Wenger could rise them with a proper bollocking at HT though.
hah feel better having talked it out, me off to.
Cesc played because he’s been rested what the first 3 games of the season?
And how long did Cesc play for? The whole 90min right?
Check your “thesarus” Sixx for blabbing
Diaby played for france the full 90. Cesc didnt.
Game time = fitness David. But that doesn’t justify your statements on favourites being picked and other players not. Anyway I can see you’re a person who thinks he’s got a sound argument and is right and everyone else is wrong so I’m just gonna go. Go time
He did play though David. He got a good half hour of action in which he struggled to impact the game.
Ja Gunner I may be wrong but Eboue did not start on the Wing. He started in Midfield with Diaby and Song. Nasri was on the wing
Jack came on too little too late.
He got 30minutes of playing time.
Thats hardly enough for someone so young.
Changes shouldve been made at half time.
And thats my point.
Diaby stays ahead of Jack regardless of how shite he’s playing.
You can see it coming and I can already guarantee it people are already putting so much pressure onWilshere and are gonna expect so much from him in every game and when he doesn’t perform people will start getting on his back. Of course he’ll have more chances than the likes of Denilson and Clichy but still. Right I’m definately off
Wenger rarely makes changes at Half Time.
Thats him and how he is.
If Wilshere hadn’t played 3 games in a week, he would’ve probably started in place of Eboue today.
LMAO Sixx
Touche!
It only makes sense…if youve got a player of Jacks calibre on the bench and one of your players is clearly cocking up it just makes managerial sense.
Especially when we were lacking creativity
And ofcoarse if we spent 4m on Schwartzer it wouldve definitely seen us relegated like Leeds Utd.
So thank Fuck for that.
By David on September 25, 2010 at 19:35
That
And ofcoarse…better tactics from a manager that knows what he’s doing.
Clichy had plenty of drive today.
He was just shyte
Ofcoarse i wont make sense to you because i was talking about last season.
If you want to butt into the argument at least read of the conversation i was having with Marko instead of mouthing of and making silly comments and then hillarious tell me im not making sense.
Ofcoarse it wont make sense youre only reading half the story. And i cant be arsed to repeat it if you wont read it.
Nevermind all of that
Where is the heart when it was 0-0 after half time?
By David on September 25, 2010 at 23:56
Just a few times where you’ve written of coarse instead of of course
Burn
Ok you got me sixx…i;ll go get my Thesarus.
Oh I hadnt seen your Touche comment David
Be careful you guys or i’ll get my dicktionary out
hahaha.
Sagna has aplogised for the loss
He also says we’ll go to chelsea and smash them easily
Sixx
Just re-watched the game on Sportsmax. TOP VIEWING. Had a Glenn Close ‘flicking the light on and off’ Fatal Attraction moment.
Unbelievable that we were outplayed by WBA without getting kicked off the park@ the Emirates.
average performance from average players,thats all.
Zeus I dont get that analogy at all
did I spell analogy right 
Or is it anology
Im confused. What should I do? Of Coarse. Let me get my Thesarus:lol:
This mofos need to fucking understand that they are affecting our motherfuckin lifes
(((( …. One thing when you’re just not good enough but to not fucking give it all ???!!!!!!
The most disappointing result in a loong looong time, Once Ramsey and Wilshere are both fit for that midfield I never ever wanna see Diaby ever play there again …
I have been his biggest advocate for 2 years but this is it, he doesn’t deserve it anymore. I blame it on him, Eboue and Song
So much so that the Matt Serra fight I was barely wanted to watch, I’m not even watching, just staring at this glass of Remy and being completely empty. Fuckin empty
((((((
These * …
waiting to watch * ….
Fuck this shit
lol Kreshnick. I feel ur pain bra.
Ur right. Whats hurtful is they can play much better. I expect a big win on Tuesday
Cant wait for Tomorrows post. Should provide some great debates
Diaby is fucking shite and a retarded waste of space.The earlier you understand it the better
Fawking shocking.
We were so shite we looked like Liverpool.
Read your comments David,and thats what I have been saying for an year.Cant figure how that fucking retard Diaby start whenever he is fit.
This team is designed for 3, 4th place.
Its all by design.
No coincidence we always cock up when theres a chance to close the gap on the leaders.
Wigan last year was the same nonchalant attitude that cost us.
I like Chamakh, I do.
But for once id like to see a striker that scores goals.
YOu guys can blame everyone but the three who are most to bale are:
ALMUNIA – 2nd and 3rd Goal
CLICHY – 2nd Goal
SAGNA – First Goal
I see few of you blaming the easy targets Eboue and Song.
SONG was one of the driving forces in the 2nd half without any help from DIABYOLICAL. Arshavin was not even there until minute 75. He was wasteful.
M4rk
There is only one who should take the blame and fuck off to France,along with his love children.Its none other than the retarded greedy parasite Wenger
Hey Jag do you know the meaning of the word parasite? Borrow David’s Thesarus
Yes Sixx Pac.Wenger is a parasite,who is feeding on our club.
Oh So u dont need the Thesarus then. Good on ya
Yeah I know. That joke is getting tired now. Let me drop it
the worst part of yesterday’s loss was we couldnt enjoy defeats of chavs and sp*ds
New post!