I listened to Owen Coyle after the game and all day yesterday on that anti-Arsenal wireless station Talk sh*te, with that stupid Scotsman who thinks he’s Irish. Or is he Irish but thinks he’s Scottish, either way he’s a twat.
Well actually I had it on throughout the day as I was driving around a lot and whoever was on, was talking Arsenal and kept bringing on the Owen Coyle clip.
We should have been four or five up by half time, but for a hopeless header, we would have at least been ahead by half time, it wasn’t close, Arshavin should have had a hattrick. We were pounding them.
In the second half, Song clumsily won the ball on the edge of our penalty area, yes it was a foul, and if it was against Liverpool and the player fouled was Gerrard, it would have been a penalty, but it wasn’t, then Cahill scythed down Chamakh unnecessarily and he was sent off.
A tad harsh maybe, but I think he was making up for the earlier mistake of not sending off Davies, who should have gone for yet another filthy tackle, but didn’t.
We were 2-1 up anyway, we were hammering them and we would have won regardless, a little while later Diaby almost had his leg broken by yet another disgusting tackle (scans were clear for a break apparently. He twisted his ankle when he fell, so keep them crossed it’s not ligament damage), but Coyle didn’t mention that did he? And nor funny enough did Talk sh*te, not a word, tossers.
I remember Leeds united scored a wonder goal in the 70′s, Match of the Day and the Big Match replayed it over and over again, it came after 18 passes I think. We had a goal scored by Carlos Vela, that was on the end of a 24 pass move, did one newspaper say anything? The two I read didn’t.
And not even to mention the finish, through ball from Cesc, a little body swerve and bang, top, top football Carlos. If it were Barcelona, it would have been on the news all weekend, and talking of Barca, losing 2 nil at home to Hercules, hey Cesc, you dodged a bullet there son didn’t you!
No one likes to see a player getting injured, but seeing Pique’s Barca DNA all over his head did make me smile though, and it paid him back for gobbing at his dad on the bus, filthy scumbag.
We had a great game and many players stood out, Wilshere, Vela, Cesc, I thought the defence looked solid, Arshavin, although offside a lot, was lively and not far back from his best, we had a great game but listening to Coyle and the anti-Arsenal press you would think we were shite.
Then at the end of the day on the said station Perry Groves was asked if Arsenal have replaced ManU as Chelsea’s biggest rivals, he said ‘mate, we’ve only played 4 games’
At last on a day of talking b*llocks, common sense prevails.
Well done Arsenal, keep it up, I thought you were awesome, have a great day grovers, all back on again on Wednesday, fasten your seat belts.
P.S. I got the score right, Geoff knows.
Exactly GoonerT1m
But, I would think they’re pretty much the questions that most AFC fans would want answering. Only difference between me and the average doomer is my expectation of the reply and whether I am happy with it or not are likely to be poles apart. So..
1) Why didn’t you buy a keeper?
AW- Because there was noone available of sufficient quality to improve the team significantly for a reasonable transfer fee (c’10m).
2) What was said / agreed between you and Cesc?
AW- That he could only go if a club met AFC valuation of him. That didnt happen- so he stays, and he agreed to stay.
3) You say you only look at a players quality not his passport; yet it cannot be a coincedence that you continue to have a large number of French players in the squad. Why?
AW- Because they are cheaper than players in Italy / Spain / England. Because they will integrate quicker into the team because of the high number of French people already here. Because I trust them more than I do the average English player.
How happy would I be with the responses?
1) Fine. Like I said, I dont see Al as a big problem. Flappy is a big problem. Id liked to have seen a Reina type GK brought in- but, again, I cant see the logic in paying huge sums of money for him.
2) Fine.
3) Less fine. I can see the logic- ultimately it creates a stronger team bond when its easier to integrate the new individuals. But equally, AFC is an English club not a French Club- and Id like to see less.
Then again, if we win the title again as we did with Bobby, TH, PV, EP, etc, etc.. who cares.
Anyway- the whole things a farce. Im not sure why the guy has to even be there. He is not responsible to the shareholders- the Board (who appoint him) are. So why does the manager go? No other club runs like this- Im not sure why we do.
Mayank, you just made a comment that basically said I was defending my people… like bad tackles are preserve of the English.
You really think retrospective bans will do anything? Like how prison puts of criminals… and the death penalty reduces murder?
You’re barking up the wrong tree… that won’t stop it.
http://www.arsenal.com/juniorgunners/news/34468/player-escorts-required-for-wednesday-night?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+arsenal-news+%28News+Feed%29
Can you see ManUtd.com putting out this article? Now THAT would be funny!
I think the Boxing day match we have with Villa is a good advt for the PL. Differing styles, pace, power, strong tackles, passing, long balls has it all.
So the base of it is that English players arent confident in their own abilitty to outplay and outwit the foriegners so they revert to caveman/thuggery tactics
No dude, my comment meant you take it upon yourself whenever there’s talk of dirty tackles to glorify the English game. That’s avoiding the topic and bringing an unnecessary emotional angle into it.
Check all my comments I’ve never used phrases like English git or British thug.
The reason you read the bad tackling comments as attacks on the English game is because more often then not the accused is English.
Interesting article and comments on goal.com about Diaby tackle we’re talking here. Defntly agree we should just give it back instead of crying, I know that’s what I’d do, BUT it really is bad in the long run for English footie.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/3194/video/2010/09/13/2116083/video-shocking-tackles-of-the-weekend-robinson-on-diaby
And this poll for the best weekend’s goal has got Vela on 50% votes loool,
http://www.goal.com/en/news/3194/video/2010/09/13/2116195/video-vote-for-the-best-goal-of-the-week-september-6-12
Mayank, I’m always going to defend our league. Arsenal fans take the ‘poor old Arsenal’ thing too far sometimes and it’s boring to listen to.
Our league has always been tough, it always will be… if it was so anti-football, it wouldn’t be the most popular in the world.
Bad tackles are exactly that… it’s an impossible task to eliminate them. The people who need educating are the refs… if players aren’t getting sent off, then it’s within the rules isn’t it?
Bad refereeing is the problem.
Pedro says:
September 13, 2010 at 17:24
You really think retrospective bans will do anything? Like how prison puts of criminals… and the death penalty reduces murder?
You’re barking up the wrong tree… that won’t stop it.
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It won’t stop it no. But it will signifcantly reduce it. And, it weakens the team considerably for the next run of games. So it makes it fairly counter-productive to risk in order to gain 3 points of a team when you potentially lose a player for the next 27 points available.
And, Pedro yes- evidence has shown that effective punative action is a sucessful deterant against rule breaking. There are lots of examples- the oft quoted one by criminologists is the crime-rate drop in NYC following the 3 strike rule introduction.
Surferosa, so retrospectively ban Robinson for 10 games?
You think that’ll stop it?
I highly doubt that…
How will you feel when it’s one of our players recieving that ban? Wasn’t it Gallas who made a nasty challenge last year? Eboue when he knocked out Terry?
Surferosa, I would say there is more evidence to suggest it actually doesn’t work.
America… home of the second most prisoners in the world I believe? A horrible system…
Pedro says:
September 13, 2010 at 17:35
Our league has always been tough, it always will be… if it was so anti-football, it wouldn’t be the most popular in the world.
Bad tackles are exactly that… it’s an impossible task to eliminate them. The people who need educating are the refs… if players aren’t getting sent off, then it’s within the rules isn’t it?
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Your confusing cause and effect though. You think our league is popular becuase its ‘tough’. Its simply not. The English ‘spirit’ that is so admired around the world is the never say die attitude.
Plus, again- you are confusing the physicality of the game with the need to remove dangerous tackling that is not tolerated internationally, nor in any other major league.
Its a relic of a by-gone age where the only way to play football was kick n rush played on muddy pitches with a football that weighed a couple of stone.
It simply holds us back mate.
Pedro … bad refereeing is the obvious problem indeed.
But that problem has the roots elsewhere. When Ramsey gets a leg broken into pieces, the media felt soo sorry about Showcross, and it was indeed disgusting, we were all here and discussed about it a lot and how we didn’t agree with the media bullshit. There were also good responses from a minority of journalists, but it’s really a worry that majority’s mentality is plain wrong, and it will obviously affect refereeing decisions on the pitch.
Simple as
There isnt just one system in the America, there are many.
Yup, like you said it was always tough, but it wasn’t always popular. It became popular when the pace increased and some of the best players in the planet graced it. Most of them were not ‘hard men’. They were all physical though.
Pace and technique, league has it in abundance.
So why are we defending players without the qualities that make the PL popular? Shawcross or Karl Henry aren’t the reason watch the PL. The German League is very physical too, why isn’t it as popular?
“cause it’s not fast and they don’t have as many great players.
The ref will always play to the sensibilities of the crowd. I don’t think Saturday’s ref will book a player for a tackle unless its brutal for some time now.
Media’s take on the situation has to change.
Either that or retrospective bans.
Surferosa, over all, America has a shocking penal system.
3 strikes is an awful idea.
I’m not getting mixed up… I just don’t see that there is a simple way to take risk out of the game without killing it.
Pedro says:
September 13, 2010 at 17:39
Surferosa, so retrospectively ban Robinson for 10 games?
You think that’ll stop it?
I highly doubt that…
How will you feel when it’s one of our players recieving that ban? Wasn’t it Gallas who made a nasty challenge last year? Eboue when he knocked out Terry?
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I made the point earlier (above) that Gallas should of get the ban. I dont remember the Terry incident- it doesnt sound like a reckless challenge; but if it was (as I described it- diving-in, two-footed, studs showing) then Eboue should be banned to.
I agree with your referees comment- though they will always miss stuff because of the speed the game is played at. This is something that can be done retrospectively; and will reduce tackling (and also improve our defensive ability nationally- which has been shown repeatedly over the past 50 years to be behind the rest of the world).
i think had arsenal converted on there chances n first half the game could have been finished in first half,after it went 1-1 yes they looked a bit shakey and the sending off helped but i cant see use not winning,the 2 new defenders did ok considering there have never played togther before it will take them time but they both look good but willneed time though,with dj being out for so long i still think wenger get another cb or he might use nordviet or most likely song.
*and will reduce reckless tackling
I gotta go now. A shame- was an interesting debate.
All the best to you grovers though.
I thought diaby knocked out Terry in the carling cup final, if that’s the one you ment
People were worried that if you take the chauvinism out of James Bond it would kil the franchise. Yet Casino Royale has to be one of the best James bond movies ever.
At least it’s the most tolerable one. I digress.
The point is you can’t take out the risk but you can take out the incentive. If a player feels he can’t get away with a tackle he may or may not make cleanly he won’t make it.
Like I said many people watch the races for the crashes. Doesn’t mean you encourage it. Neither does that mean you tell the drivers to drive with the handbrake on.
It’s like cameras in the mall to stop shoplifting. Doesn’t eradicate the problem but it makes people think twice than if there were just the security guards around.
I think retrospective punishment is the way to go on all those hard to ref issues – diving, off the ball cheating, maybe even that ridiculous holding at corners thing.
It won’t have immediate results but in the end the teams that infringe more frequently will suffer and half intelligwnt managers will work that out.
Problem for me is how you decide which incidents to look at (I thought maybe it could be like citing in rugby where the opposition gets to make 3 referrals or someting but then you’ll always get situations where the team fouled doesn’t want its opponents to lose players against some other teams)
Haven’t read le-grove in a while but I’ve really been enjoying the arguments here today.
Pedro, you may not realize it, but you are coming across as unnecessarily defensive about the PL/English players.
The PL is the most watched league in the world because of the pace and attacking mentality of the game and because its got so many global stars. No one I’ve heard of watches football for the physicality/tackles.
I also think you’re wrong when you say people play football for the physical challenge (i.e.roughness)? Rugby, yes but football? That really is a weird thing to say imo.
Dangerous tackles add nothing whatsoever to the appeal of the game and should be harshly punished. I’m all for retrospective bans.
Pedro,
You agree historically that the English game was much more dangerous right? and in the last few decades or so, there’s been concerted effort to improve it(i.e. reduce the risk of injury due to dangerous play). Yet in that same period the PL has become the most popular league on earth.
Why would you then think that putting in place more rules to further restrict dangerous play is a bad thing?
Arse&Nose© says:
September 13, 2010 at 11:07
Anyone else noticed that people called Wayne are all dickheads.
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Absolutely not!
bruce Wayne is one freak of a legend!
yeah sixx, can you believe Taylor Swift? her performance was weak response to the situation, i slpet off on her, but Kanye woke me right up!! Kanye West is god….LOL not quite, but funny dude..
So I say to all the rough players in the EPL, LET’S HAVE A TOAST TO ALL THE DOUCHEBAGS, ALL THE SCUMBAGS, ASSHOLES AND JERK OFFS!
Someone needs to tell Stuart Robson that Dembele never played for FC Twente, he played for AZ Alkmaar.
Just popping in, then out again, but here’s my solution. Ban Northerners from being Managers. End of problem.
People who play football for the physical challenge do so because they dont have the ability to play properly imo. Nothing wrong with tackling at all but if your favourite part of football is flying into tackles its probably because you’re shit.
And please dont send all the english players to Ireland…PLEASE!!
Nice one Micky. You can add me to that petition.
Can the Australian continent confirm that Aussie rules employs retrospective punishment? My memory is hazy….
Either way it’s pretty much the roughest contact sport out there as the hits come from all directions – on or off the ball – and fairly sure retrospective punishment does bugger all to arrest this.
Stu, I wasn’t saying the only reason people play football is for the physical challenge… but it’s a massive part.
Heristic… why does physical mean have to mean dangerous?
Drogba is physical… he isn’t dangerous.
“I like physical challenges and I’m a player that can anticipate situations,” Koscielny told Arsenal.com.
The Epl is the best league in the world because it has 5 of the top 12 clubs in the world. No other league can boast that.
Sixx Pac, nothing to do with the fact more people watch it?
Pedro – By Physical challenge what do you mean exactly ? The contact aspect, because how would you say that plays a massive part ?!
They’ve got Dwight Yorke commentating on the Stoke game, seems a bit odd.
Stoke have tried to play up their stereotype even further this year, I think Whitehead nearly kicked that ball out of the stadium.
Keyser, I don’t think there is an area of the pitch that doesn’t involve some sort of physical challenge.
That’s why the most powerful teams normally win the league.
Pedro I thought that was a given eh. The fact that 5 of the biggest clubs play here means bigger viewership.
Pedro – You’ve been all over the place today, if you considered the most physical of sporting challenges, contact wise, where would you place football ?!
This is what people have a problem with, you don’t step on the field to hit someone as hard as you can in a tackle, that’s just a by product and something that shouldn’t be promoted as something that attracts you to the game.
You may enjoy the physical aspect of it, and accept it as part of the game, but going around barging into other players isn’t something you dream about as a kid, unless you’re a bit weird.
Especially because there’s soo many other sports better suited to that.
just thought I’d take the time to praise a quality post. well done
I say the shit-kicker teams are fine. None of them ever win anything, and they are basically just there to snatch the odd point here and there. It’s been proven time and time again that the approach doesn’t work and will never win you a single thing.
I’d like to play Bolton every week.
Lurch LeRouge – what’s banned in Aussie Rules ? Like what do you get punished for ?!
I’d have thought the NRL is tougher and they police that pretty well. Though I don’t watch as much of the Aussie Rules.
Keyser, why do I need to compare it to another sport for it to be true?
Because Boxing is more physical, people can’t enjoy the physical side of football… that doesn’t make sense?
I’d bet plenty of people who play football would put the physical challenge of the game up there as their favourite part of the game.
People probably don’t dream of barging into people when they grow up. But I bet Paddy Vieira loved battling it out with Roy Keane in the middle of the park.
HB, Blackburn are thugs… but they actually played some really good football the other week.
I read somewhere today that Rory Delaps pass success is 44%… pretty shocking!
Pedro.
Yeah they were fine, didn’t really have a problem with their approach last week. Bolton’s however, was taking the piss.
Bolton will not win anything playing like that, ever.
Pedro – Because you said it plays a ‘massive part’ or ‘plenty of people’ who play it would have it up there as the top bit about football.
The thing is it’s not boxing, there has to be a line, you can kncok someone unconscious in boxing and thats your line, you shouldn’t really ever get close to that in football.
If I want a real physical challenge I’ll go to Thai Boxing classes, footballs a completely different challenge andit should be treated for what it is a game designed so that you find ever more inventive ways of getting the ball in the net.
Vieira might have loved ‘battling’ with Keane, but he’s still kicking a ball around trying to outwit with him with skill and technique aswell.
Pedro.
Yes but you’ll find that long balls and balls punted into the area, the player sacrifices passing completion rates for the chance to put the ball in dangerous areas. They only need one to go through and it could result in a goal.
I don’t think Blackburn played good football, I’d say they played out there gameplan well, and they did that without any bad challenges either.
Football is all about physicality. It’s just fouling and extending your game-plan beyond the rules which is out of order
Keyser.
Anything above the collar bone is punishable. It’s not uncommon to see players getting clothslined and knocked unconcious briefly. Also you see raking and eye gouging and low blows and these are very hard for a ref to witness.
It’s also not uncommon for brawls to break out, hence the need for retrospective action. But it does nowt to stop it.
They are complete nutters.
Honest Bill – Exactly, there’s a line where the physical challenge ends, and there should be limits and punishments respective to it.
Lurch LeRouge – Yeah, but that’s where retrospective action comes in, eye gouging and raking is punished heavily in rugby or at least the instances I’ve seen have been, like you not sure how that’s checked in Aussie Rules though.
Guys, check out this vid for Chuks Aneke, the boy is quality and has height and strength too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX14uv5gfng
Have to agree with Pedro – the physical side is very appealing to me as well. Having a running battle (not fighting!) with someone is always good fun.
Having a crunching tackle on someone is just as good as playing a cross field ball!
Play in the league I play in and you don’t have a choice – you have to be physical. If you’re not strong enough you’ll just get knocked off the ball too easy.
The higher up you go the less dirty tackles you will get. But the tackles you do get are probably even stronger.
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I like this new mayank/surferosa tag team.
Sorry Keyser had to eat something…
My point is that retrospective action does nothing to clean the sport up. Just like the death penalty has little effect of the murder statistics in some states of the US
A comment by silvestre i was just reading:
“There must be a reason why Sol Campbell, William Gallas and myself all left the club,” he said.
“But it’s not the place to discuss that. I’m just happy for Arsenal to continue the way they do.
“I still watch their results and some highlights because I care about my (former) team-mates and the staff.
“I had a good time over there, so I’m not going to complain. Now I’m focusing on Werder 100 per cent.”
I wonder what he meant by this…..? did sol, gallas & silvestre faal out with wenger?
More than anything surely the EPL is bigger due in part to the successfully industrialisation of the UK in the Victorian age. A combination of an economically mobilised working class, relatively shorter travelling distances, population density and disposable income – oh and winning 2 world wars.
makes the supply of talent and audience stronger than the Spanish, French, German and Italian leagues no?
Hate Stoke
Ricky.
He probably didn’t want to give them the contracts they were asking for. Probably nothing more sinister than that.
Fuck all three of them i say.
Is he trying to suggest Wenger was racist?
He cant be, i dont remember him saying Song was rubbish.
Lurch
You realise the PL started in 1992 right?
Not 1853?
lol @ silvestre. Best thing wenger has done in a while getting rid of those 2
Ricky, fuck em there all history. Silverboy is prob bitter cause he was a bench warmer, sol left because he could play week in week out, and Gallas……..well Gallas……he just left. Good luck but they won’t be missed.
That fucked my argument. Thanks gambon.
I’m still righteous.
Alex 21:37, that is the most hilarious vid I’ve seen. Is someone trying to replace Hansen and MOTD with even more inane analysis?
And racist. Song was shit in the first half.
Lurch your point is shit.
fuck silvestre 1000000000 million times…bad luck
please who has got an update on diaby
French midfielder is set to miss at least the next two games because of a leg injury, leaving Arsenal without five key players.
see http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/sep/13/arsenal-arsene-wenger-champions-league
For you nigerian gunner
tankx so much man….a bit better news i think
nadal vs djokovic is some game
It’s a shame iaby is injured, but i’m not too worried i think Big Jack or Denilson will be more than capable of handling it.
You could also play Nasri there i reckon, although he would have to work hard at winning the ball back, he is excellent at keeping possession.
Yeah gooby. Djokovic needs a set.
Yeah HB.
Here’s an interesting stat based insight to our brazillian from Sat.
http://gingersforlimpar.blogspot.com/2010/09/are-we-witnessing-age-of-denilson.html
That tackle on Chamakh was a clear red card.
He was going out of bounds. It was a challenge from behind and it was two footed.
Red Card. Easily.
that card must not be overturned….its not a must legs are broken before reds are dished out…intent matters according to the rule…he might only serve a game ban if lucky
You’re about a day late Lurch, i posted that yesterday.
David, agreed. Shame that when Shawcross took out Ade a few years ago while off the pitch that nothing was done. Its all about consistency and there is just none with the refs. Some tackles get reds while an identical tackle doesnt even get punished by a different ref.
I missed it Stu, I tip my hat in your direction. I’d still like to know if Denilson was carrying an injury when he got skinned by Rooney, it’d help to contexualise that incident.
Wouldn’t be surprised if the match ban was extended for Cahill.
djokovic was outstanding. shame it is raining so much, i mean it’s not london for christ sake!
Lurch Denilson was carrying a back injury all of last year
Why doesn’t flushing meadows have a roof ffs?
Na it was a yellow, and an advantage, nothing more.
arsenal.com/news/news-archive/back-injury-sidelines-denilson-for-two-months
No back injury heals in two months
HE’s got 99 problems but a bitch aint one
Gotta agree with David for once Gambon it was a red. Two feet off the ground behind a player in the middle of the pitch. Are we only to send off the player when he breaks someone’s leg?
apparently
Gambon,
Chamakh could quite easily taken a severe blow to his Achilles in which case we wouldn’t be arguing the colour of the card.
The only reason we are is because he shrugged the challenge off, but it doesn’t dilute the intent behind Cahills lunge. Perhaps it wasnt malicious but defo reckless, Chamakh was going nowhere fast. Cahill wanted to make a point.
Yeah im aware Sixx, I’d still like to know if that was his excuse…
the fact that chamakh backheeled made it look much less worse than it was. if chamakh had just stood there then it would’ve been two feet off the ground, halfway up his shins and right through the back of him.
because chamakh was in the air a yellow could’ve been given rather than a red, but a red certainly wasn’t anywhere near as outrageous as people are making out. ridiculous that robinson and davies stayed on the pitcj thogh
I beat you to that punch Marko.
Good timing i guess. Cahill certainly used excessive force. He didnt need to fly into a tackle on the half way line, from behind and with both feet to win the ball. Far from it. It was definitely a red card.
http://www.7amkickoff.com/2010/karl-henry-is-the-poster-child-for-foul-play/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+7amkickoff+%287amkickoff%29
I don’t have a problem with Davies headbut, I genuinely think he was challenging for the ball. Dirty cunt for his hit on JW though. On Robinson we agree.
It wasnt 2 footed. His left foot leaves the ground after the challenge is made due to momentum.
I still havent heard any non Arsenal fan say it was a red, and a number of gooners in my office all thought it was a poor decision, even the AKBs.
Well the referee followed the rules. So it was the right decision in that case. Whatever about the other decisions that he actually got wrong.
Thing is no other club has suffered the level of leg breaks we have in the last, what 5 years since Diaby? So our senses are perhaps over sensitive.
Ok his leg may have lifted, I’ll grant you that but the momentum to cause that lift shifts the tackle from mild to wild and that’s reckless. I don’t care about AKB’s they’re a bunch of delusional lemmings and I care even less for other supporters opinions.
His legs kind of wrapped around Chamakh. If it happened to an Arsenal player maybe and if there was just a yellow given at the time I don’t think I’d of been complaining too much but if he had done real serious I’d of been calling for blood. So basically the way you stop the leg breakers is by dishing out cards like the one on sat.
Well, being AKBs they surely cant think for themselves and just agreed it wasnt a red because it was the popular decision
Exactly Stu. And rival supporters just want to prove how hard they are and soft we are.
Same old arsenal always cheating.
Heard that one before have we?
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tuuuuuuune!!!
if bolton are succesful in their appeal it sends out completely the wrong message. i was surprised to see the red come out, but when you see the tackle again, it certainly ticks enough boxes to warrant a red. he dived in from behind and took player not ball, with both feet off the ground. as Marko says, just because chamakh escaped injury free doesnt make it any less of a red.
i hope they extend the ban for frivolous appeal.
Fair enough Suga.
This is more how I roll but.
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If you break someone leg for fun and ruined his career, then break/amputate temporarily the attacker’s leg too. You and the victim suffer together. When and as the victim recovers, then tie back the attacker’s amputated leg (which was deep-froze by FA). But if the victim cant play football then leave the attacker to live with amputated leg for rest of his life. Thats how you deal with malice and evil leg breaker, not with fines or retrospective bans or any ineffective laughable shit like that. Aaron Ramsey may God bless him for good recovery, Ryan Shawcross may you burn in hell.
Wenger is bumming Sol Campbell.
And that comes str8 from the FA.
“i said i’m amazing! Mo’fuckers thought i said i was a mason” see thats what ignorrance brings u. Jay Z is a part owner of a sports franchise, he is an Arsenal fan and Lady Nina is selling a small share of Arsenal, stop being ignorant about “yanks” some of us know more than u when it comes to sports. That being said, can we just support the players when transfer window is closed? Song, Kozzer, AA23 were immense and very relivant to our win. Good morning douchebags and jerk offs! Im just kidding ya’ll!
The best punishment for football thuggery is that Ryan Shawcross must be BANNED INDEFINATELY until Aaron Ramsey is FULLY RECOVERED. Eye for an eye! Parallel punishment will get RID OF THUGS ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Shall we have a toast
Morning all,
Just a thought, if Jay Zed comes on board, would we all have to wear our trousers around our ankles and dress like dickheads?
I know that this is old news, but I have only just read about Kos not being beaten in a one on one all last season. That is some stat.
Jay Z should plough money in Citeh, not us. Blings of same glitz hangs together.
How long is RVP out for? I am thinking about Chelsea on Oct 3.
i hope spuds get smashed tonight
And same for Theo while we are on the subject.
Actually, now I see my last two questions, it makes me realize that against Chelsea away, I would rather have Theo back ahead of RVP. If I had to choose. Now that is not something I would have thought last season.
4-6 weeks was the propgnosis for both of them Micky. That was only a week ago- so, with the way injuries work out for us- Im guessing not.
And top of the morning to ya
Oh cripes Surferosa, not good. Christmas then.
Does your name refer to Surfing the web, or surfing the waves?
Favourite album actually mate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfer_Rosa
First thing that came to mind when I was signing up.
Surferosa,
Ah ha, I see. Just read your wiki link, and noted the album was cited as an influence by P J Harvey. Must be good then.
Morning all, Robin always plays well against the chavs, but Chamakh has revenge on his mind and that I like.
New post!
MickyDidit89, don’t be a douchebag!
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