Good draw sees Eduardo return and why we should bring back the old style win bonus.

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I was watching Sky Sports last night, it was the trio of Merson, Smith and Parlour, 9,11 and 13 year Arsenal players, boy they were the days, I remember seeing all three make their debuts, I loved them all and not because they were English, but because they were Arsenal to the core, and still are.

They said there was never more than £50 between the top earner and the lowest paid, but they said they were paid a win bonus that doubled their salary, and that was why they fought so hard to win games, I know we have a win bonus, but perhaps the basic should be lower and the bonus higher, maybe that would incentivise them better, or maybe they wouldn’t sign in the first place.

Parlour also told a story of the squad arriving at Liverpool (I think) the team went to the changing rooms and the rest to the bar, after 4 pints Stewart Housten came into the bar and told Parlour to get his kit on as he was now playing, Andy Linighan said ‘can he at least finish his pint?’ Imagine that now? There weren’t many players playing for us that had Parlour’s passion, pissed or sober!

It seems that we have at last signed Squillaci, but I cannot understand why that business couldn’t have been taken care of in May?

It does seem that Schwarzer is not coming, so go and get Given, we know he wants to come, we want him, what we don’t want is Almunia and Fabianski not least because all these offers we made Fulham, it certainly shows what we think of them and if we don’t sign a keeper quickly, we’re screwed, in which case I would sooner take a chance on Chezzer. We’re also rumoured to be in for the Landreau.

Almunia was still flapping at crosses and had weak punching problems again against Blackpool, so he hasn’t improved a jot, Fabianski must live in a bubble because he thought he had a great game when he shipped 3 against Legia.

So Arsene get out there and get a keeper, Given would do very nicely, but if not, then anyone.

Have a great day Grovers, it’s Pedro for the weekend!

P.S. We still have 3 spares going for Blackburn away, e-mail in sharpish if you’d like those. We also have 4 seated together for the WBA game at home. E-mail in from the contacts —>>>>

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723 Responses to “Good draw sees Eduardo return and why we should bring back the old style win bonus.”

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  1. Simon McMahon

    SO SQUILACHI IS QUALITY THEN give me a break he may be but tell me did you know who he was before he was linked with us and koz has only played one game .
    arsenbajor
    you may not remember but i;m calling quality signings
    BIG NAMES ready made internationals.
    Not Bargain Bucket signings
    and where’s the goal keeper!!!!

  2. arsenesabemejor

    arsenal4ever theres no need for a AKB banner as its apparent how the majority of fans feel, its the minority like you who need to show their feelings, otherwise whats the point of moaning?

  3. arsenal4ever

    only way to get a new GK Fallmunia needs to make a big mistake which is really sad. Why cant this stingy tight french idiot not offer 4 mill for MS? He is so stubborn therefore he got a big pay rise? Our club is managed by complete monks!!

  4. arsenesabemejor

    Simon Squilachi is an international as is chamakh, Kos is going to be a fantastic signing, why so negative, will you be happy if we win at the weekend ?

  5. Stu

    If you didnt know who Squillaci was before we were linked with him then you need to watch more football. He may not be a big name but he is definitely known. Just because he isnt known within the prem doesnt mean he isnt good.

  6. Stu

    Theres no need for that Arsenenesabemejor. Why wouldnt someone be happy if we won? Except Jaguar of course who would be furious because it means Wenger aint getting sacked any time soon.

  7. arsenesabemejor

    Stu it just seems that some would be happier if we lost so they can throw more dirt at the manager, I really think we are really going to surprise everyone this season

  8. arsenal4ever

    @ arsenesabemejor: Most fans here wants a change. At emirates there are only tourists who dont support Arsenal at all. Just want to see a spectacular game. I am fan since highbury and it is sad how Wenger has changed! I used to love him but his stubborness is killing the club.

  9. Marko

    I’m guessing we didn’t move for Squillaci in May cause we were trying for Mertesacker and Jagielka and when nothting came of them we went for Squillaci. Should be tough but I fancy a 3-1 tomorrow. To us obviously

  10. arsenesabemejor

    arsenal4ever most fans here maybe but thats not exactly a big number is it? Its not all tourists at all, what a load of rubbish, Ive been a fan for more than 40 years and he certainly isnt killing the club , why do you haters always resort to gross exaggeration? Is it because without it you dont have much of an argument?

  11. arsenal4ever

    we will win against BB but a big mistake from Fallmunia would do us big favours. No wait, Wenger loves Alm and Flapianski that much so no one will be sold :-( . Even Bob Wilson said we should go after given if MS not happening!!

  12. arsenesabemejor

    Stu I read that Wenger thinks that its not all the keepers fault the high ball problem and will wait till Jan to see if the new central defense sort out the problem

  13. Simon McMahon

    arsenesabemejor
    what a plank your are
    I hate it WHEN WE LOOSE FULL STOP!!
    it spoils my weekend THE FACT THAT I Dont subscribe to all the retoric that wenger spews is because i am an arsenal fan not an arsene fan..

  14. arsenal4ever

    @ arsenesabemejor. but why not trying? Given wants out and you cant have a player who clearly wants out. Wenger said all is dead so he is excusing again!! Big fail Wenger!!!

  15. Marko

    I know some people will read Wenger’s comments yesterday a certain way but I firmly believe he was asked about bringing in any more players and said no in refernce to a defender cause he was just talking about Squillaci and there were rumours about Juan and Ciani still joining. I’d be very surprised if we didn’t end up signing Schwarzer before Tues. Very surprised. Whats likely is he’ll get the game on Sat out of the way, you’ll likely see Schwarzer not included for Fulham again and he’ll make a final offer.

  16. Stu

    I hope thats wrong then Arsenes because the issue isnt the defence on its own. The defenders are unsure because Al and Fab give them no confidence and they inevitable make a mistake.

    The defenders need to have a keeper behind them that will calm them down and let them be sure that if they do make a mistake that he will save it.

    When you try not to make a mistake then its always in the back of your mind and makes you more likely to fuck up.

  17. Stu

    There shouldnt be any need for a final offer. Schwarzer is hardly expensive. We should have just offered the 4m they wanted and got him during the summer. I wouldnt be surprised if we made another offer the same as the previous 2 that got rejected.

  18. Kreshnik

    I’m so fucking curious and impatient too, but I like the keep it all under the covers policy. I fucking hate Barca, unsettling players like this. And they certainly are not making themselves any favors this way.

  19. arsenal4ever

    Marko really hope you are right about players coming in. I thought also GK wasnt mentioned as new players coming in but why still stick with Djourou? Dont get me wrong I like his style but I dont think he will make it. Hope he proves me wrong.

  20. arsenal4ever

    yes stu we are acting like a small club who just came in EPL!! Unbelievable!! These players arent world class names so I cant believe WEnger always waiting for the end of window. We wouldnt have bought Squillaci if window was shut down at the beginning of EPL. ridiculous!!! Only bargains and free players interests Wenker!!

  21. Marko

    Djourou as 4th choice is fine in fact he’s a good 4th choice people tend to forget that he’s had some very good games for us. I think going from Gallas, Campbell and Silvestre to Squillaci, Koscielny and Djourou/Nordtveit means we should be better of in that area than we were last season. Stu I agree and disagree about us just paying what Fulham want due mainly to his age and the fact that Fulham put that price on him cause they know we’re in a need. Apparently we payed 4 million euros for Squillaci and Fulham are looking for 4 million pounds for Schwarzer. It’s not really a fair price but we’ll probably end up paying it. Even though if it turns out Landraeu could be got for 8 million and City a year ago paid 7 million for Given then it begs the question how Fulham came up with 4 million for a 38 year old.

  22. Marko

    Let’s be honest too about shite being said about we’re a small club cause we’re going for a keeper like Schwarzer, he’s only coming in to do a job for a couple of years til Chesney steps up his progression and becomes our Iker Casilles a goalkeeper of quality for years to come.

  23. arsenal4ever

    marko Landreau is just (6 ft 1⁄2 in) and no real presence in box. Would have been very happy for Stekelenburg or Neuer!!!

  24. chozzer

    why do transfer windows always ‘slam shut’?

    everyone knows exactly when they will close.

    if we’re still relying on Flapmuniaski on Wednesday, den we fucked.

  25. Cannon Man

    I’m not convinced we’re THAT much stronger at CB. DM is still an issue for me. With Frimpong – a youth who is yet to start a PL game don’t forget – out for the season, what’s the excuse for not having decent cover for Song again? There isn’t one.

    I would have no problem with Wenger picking Szczesny ahead of Almunia and Fabianski in the event that we don’t bring in quality GK. We’re still vulnerable on the left with Arshavin playing in front of the non-defending Clichy. I can’t imagine how Wenger’s gonna solve that problem. Squillaci’s a decent addition but how anyone could expect to get something different this season from Almunia and Fabianski is beyond me. A new GK is a must if those two are our current preferred options.

    Anyway. 3-1 win tomorrow. Arshavin to score first.

  26. Marko

    6ft 2 christ he’s a midget. I suppose the only top goalkeepers in the world are 6ft 6 and made of metal. I suppose Reina, Casiiles and Valdes are much taller than 6ft 2? Talk about a fan with a short attention span who only remembers the world cup. Neuer was only first choice cause first choice goalkeeper Rene Adler was injured just before the world cup. You also forget Stekelenberg making mistakes in the first 2 groups games in the world cup. He’s not that great

  27. mcmellish

    @ arsenal4ever

    I believe Almunia should and will play. My reasons for this are while I do believe Schezney can and will one day be a very good keeper for us, now is not the time to throw him into the fire.

    Especially against a team like Blackburn who everyone knows will put massive pressure on whichever GK plays and probably get away with an absurd amount of fouls in the process.

    What if Schezney is thrown in and is tormented by Blackburn and has a terrible game? It would shatter his confidence and probably set him back a year, let’s not forget he has no first team EPL experience.

  28. Big Dave

    The goalkeeper Marteen Stekelenburg (27) will not move from Ajax. He has been tracked by Arsenal, but he has decided to refuse a possible move.

  29. Cem

    A question for everyone. When you write from your iPhone and want to Refresh the page you end up at the top of the page. Then you must scroll down All the way to the bottom to read the latest posts. Quite annoying when you must dó that everytime. So my question is. Is there an easier way?

  30. chris

    anyone else think if the cunts get 40 million euros for ibra from milan they could have another go at unsettling cesc? i know theyre about to sign donkey face but still..

  31. arsenal4ever

    yes and Wellingtons attitude is spot on. Already learning english 3 times the week. REally like this guy!! He will be an Arsenal great if not injured badly.

  32. Kreshnik

    The other trick which is annoying … is to turn off mobile (scroll to the end of le-grove.com, don’t go inside of a post) and then play around with the comment number on the address bar

  33. TOM TOM

    I see united have not even included the homeless tramp in the reserve squad.City spend 140 million and united sign a tramp,how things are changing. I wonder will he carry a bag on a stick onto the pitch

  34. zeus

    Marko

    I would never bet against the Arsenal. Can’t bring myself to do it. Worse case is to just stay on the fence for a draw, never bank on the opp team.

  35. TOM TOM

    Yeah but its funny Zeus. Did Wenger really say that Almunia and Flappy are great keepers? We really are fucked if we dont sign a keeper

  36. Marko

    Just paper talk iamgooner. But I do see us making a move for him in the future if he was available cause he likes us. He’d be super.

  37. Stu

    WHats funny TomTom? You’re definitely not talking about your tramp comment so what is it?

    Anyone watching the super cup, or whatever its called? Just wondering whos doing better.

  38. zeus

    treze

    youngguns.wordpress.com

    Flying winger/second striker type. full of tricks with some end product to go with it. Brilliant in 1 on 1s.

    He is still young and slight though, interesting if he can keep that Brazilian spontanaeity while adding that team flow to his game.

  39. BillikenGooner

    I highly doubt we’ll ever get Hazard.

    We won’t pay for him now because he’s already too expensive for Wenger at this point (he’s not a young ‘find’) plus Wenger won’t want to have him impede anyone’s progress.

    If we wait a year or 2, he will be that much more expensive and only a few teams out there would pay the fee and his wages, neither of which we would.

  40. Marko

    Probably get Hazard for 15-18 million with add ons. Which is like the deal we had for Reyes back in the day but since he was a little bitch he didn’t end up our record signing.

  41. Marko

    Such a shame Jose Reyes is a big pussy cause he really could of been one of the best around like Robben or Ribery. Just ended up a baby

  42. Marko

    And then he scores. See that after every one of our Champions league games bar one I think we play a team away. After the away game in Belgrade we’re away to Chelsea. Fucking unreal

  43. Marko

    There’s no such thing as a perfect goalkeeper Julio Cesar is top quality and he gets beaten at his near post. If that was Almunia he’d be lynched. But at 35 Almunia doesn’t look worldclass so thats why we’ve lost faith in him

  44. Stu

    The difference, Marko, is that Almunia gets beaten at his near post all the time and he doesnt make world class saves to make up for it. So its justified when we lynch him after letting a goal in.

  45. Stu

    Yeah im watching it Kreshnik. I cant imagine the inter fans were too pleased to have Mourinho replaced by Rafa.

    Chances are they will win Serie A again, like usual, but its doubtful they will win much else. But who am i to say for sure what they will win. Maybe Rafa will be great in Italian football, he does suit the defensive approach over there.

  46. Marko

    True true but it is true though there’s no such thing as a perfect goalkeeper. Maybe cause the whole thing about their job is its constant pressure all the time constant bombardment.

  47. Stu

    Yeah, its about about, for lack of a more fitting word, credit.

    If you pull off a world class save that noone expects to be made then you can afford to make a mistake (generally speaking). But if you let in easy-ish goals and dont make up for it by stopping “sure thing” goals then of course the fans will be pissed off and want a new keeper.

    We’re at a point where we’re just wanting a keeper to save the regular shots and they arent even doing that. Its just game after game of the keepers fucking up in one way or another.

  48. Man

    With Frimpong out for the next 6-9 months, does anyone else think it’ll be a good idea to get another DM (perhaps on loan)?

  49. Stu

    Definitely Man. I think we should be after another DM, either to compete or fill in for Song, regardless of whether or ot Frimpong is fit. He may be talented but he has no experience and in defence that is paramount.

  50. Marko

    Or we just want a goalie to show confidence and to shout at the defense. Really like Cambiasso always thought he was an understated player especially at Madrid like Makalele.

  51. Marko

    Me too I wouldn’t mind a loan for Mamadou Diarra or a move for Cabaye, Matuidi or a Capoue. Until about a week ago I wouldn’t of ruled out a late sneaky bid or loan for another midfielder but alas I think the remaining days of the window will be used up by us trying to get Fulham to sell Schwarzer.

  52. arsenal4ever

    merida looks poor!! glad we sold him at the end. wouldnt get to much playing time at arsenal and now for atletico

  53. arsenal4ever

    lol

    Sky Sports News has revealed that Charles N’Zogbia’s proposed move to Birmingham has fallen through after the player was unable to agree personal terms. More to follow on this story.

  54. Marko

    Athletico play with a 19 year old goalie. If you’re good enough you’re good enough I suppose. Still Schwarzer for 2-3 years and then Chesney to step up is probably the way to go. I doubt De Gea would be under the kind of pressure in Spain that he would be in England particularly at corners.

  55. Marko

    Bloody hilarious. N’Zogbia throws his toys out the pram to get a move and then he can’t agree terms. Ha I say

  56. Kreshnik

    No Marko, I think we should throw Chezzers in right now … no need for patch ups … I’d rather lose 5-6 points from Chezzers then 12 from Almunia

  57. Marko

    Yeah if we don’t sign Schwarzer I would be inclined to give Chesney a go for a bit at least to see if he can step up quickly.

  58. arsenal4ever

    exactly marko and I rate Tech9 above De Gea!! Similar if not better reflexes and commands his box I ve never seen in a long time for such a young GK!! He would have an instant impact like Hart!! Worldbeater, the talent is there!!

  59. arsenal4ever

    great point Kreshnik. And Tech9 wouldnt make a lot mistakes. He would save us points rather to loose them!! Come on Arsene show balls as you are looking for youth and put him in goal!!!

  60. Marko

    Bingo and thats why we’re going for a Schwarzer and not a Hart, Marchetti, Adler, Frey. Because in 3-4 years he’ll be ready if not now and those players mentioned are expensive and would hold him back.

  61. OPG

    The keeper we’re looking to sign isn’t necessarily only Schwarzer, I’m tired of that speculation already, but I’d rather have Scezney in goal and we try to bring in another DM if we can’t bring in a proper top class keeper.

  62. arsenal4ever

    lol sixx. Heard in interview with him and you are bloody right. And what I like most of him is his calmness!! Unbelievable for such a young age!! Vito is similar but wojciech is imo above of him.

  63. Tunde

    Lecturer:What’s the word that stands for turning a trebble winning team into mid-table strugglers?

    Student:Benitez

  64. arsenal4ever

    of course both cant make the number 1 but Vito would be a good 2. choice GK. But I admit vito has to go on loan to a EPL team or 1 division under.

  65. Stu

    Never realised before how lucky Vito got with some of those saves. More than once he palmed the ball back into play and we could have easily conceded. Still though, he deserved his MOTM that day.

  66. Stu

    I remember hearing he broke both arms but thought it was during a match when he fell awkwardly. Any idea what exercise he was doing that broke both arms?

  67. Marko

    Could of been as good as Robben or even better he was just a blouse and didn’t want to knuckle down and work hard

  68. choy

    Its going to be a tough game tomorrow.

    Any guesses for the starting line up?

    Here’s mine

    Al

    Sagna Koz Verm Clichy
    Song Fab Rosicky
    RVP Chamakh Arsh.

  69. Marko

    I’d like to see
    Al
    Sagna Kos TV Clichy
    Song Diaby
    Cesc
    Chamakh Van Persie Arshavin
    Cause thats our best team, maybe Squillaci for Kos.

    But it’s probably gonna be the same as Blackpool with Diaby and Wilshere with Rosicky and Walcott with Chamakh and Arshavin cause Diaby and Wilshere have started brightly and Rosicky too and you gotta play Walcott so we can see if he can continue his form.
    Midfield could be Song Diaby and Rosick too. He may go for height against blackburn.

  70. Stu

    That blog is fucking shit! No wonder you’re appealing for hits on here, its not gonna get any based on merit or the quality or whats on there.

    (this is an assumption as i didnt click the link).

  71. cesc rule

    its a pity reyes left us becos he missed her mama’ back home..

    Dop:no..just ask ur fren to signup to goonernews..mayb he,ll get some readers

  72. sixx pac

    “Be pretty happy if we found a very good centre-back and that was all that we added.”

    keyser 2010

    Anyone remember this

  73. Pedro

    DOP, if you’ve asked them to check out your blog and they don’t like it… you should ask them why and look to improve.

  74. Marko

    Be hard to drop him too Choy cause in the first 2 games he’s been very good, well disciplined and hasn’t done a thing wrong. I’ve been very impressed with him cause he’s probably realised that his natural position in the team is occupied by Fab, Nasri and Rosicky and on the left by Arshavin and Vela and so he’s been asked to play deeper and he’s had to change his game and he’s done very well. Very impressed by him.

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