So after Geoff’s emotive plea for a bit of management from Arsenal’s highly paid team of specialists, finally it came.
‘Yesterday evening we received an offer from Barcelona for Cesc and in response, we immediately and resolutely told them once again that we have no intention of selling our captain.’
The statement went onto say that we weren’t considering any type of counter proposal either. So basically, there it is… Cesc is staying.
I heard a couple of weeks ago that the Cesc meeting with Wenger went amicably. There were no tantrums or strops. So one would imagine that Wenger laid down the law and told Cesc he wasn’t leaving unless Arsenal received £89million (Graham Hunter) and that he should stay because bench warming is for girls… and an offer of £35million indicates that’s what they see him as.
If Cesc really wants to leave, I feel for him… I truly do. When I was 18 years old I was desperate to buy my first mobile phone. The nokia 7110 was the answer to all my dreams, it had WAP functionality, a cool snap down answer thingy and most importantly, the eagerly anticipated sequel to snake… snake 2.
Bad ass...
In my haste to acquire the said phone, I signed myself into the worst 2 year contract you could imagine. After my second phone bill wiped out my £132 monthly salary from the One Stop convenience store I rang up the phone company to cancel the contract. They turned to me and said,
‘You owe us 22 months worth of line rental if you want to do that.’
Yep, I signed the deal, I had to stick it out. Why should it be any different for Cesc? He liked our WAP gadgetry and roll menu application when he signed the deal… he can bloody well stick it out despite someone waving a shiny iphone in his face.
The only downer on this whole episode is Cesc’s motivation. If he truly believed he was going to leave and my source has it wrong, how will that affect his attitude next season? If your wife said you couldn’t leave her for Megan Fox… would you take the bins out when she asked you to?
Good on Arsenal anyway, that statement was the best thing I’ve read on the official site since reading about Mr Clubb and Mr Levell… you remember… how their names sounds like Club Level?! Wasn’t that funny eh? Crazy times at Arsenal Web HQ…
Maybe next time, Arsenal could quell the speculation early? That’d be nice wouldn’t it. Far more productive than sending a world of Gooners into a blind panic for two weeks.
Now we can crack on with our summer, sign some top class players and make sure next summer Cesc decides he can’t possibly leave because we’re treble winners and any other club would be a step down.
I’d still be very wary of Barcelona’s public humiliation though.They are now 2-0 down to the Madridstas in the battle for the summer… I hope they’re not planning some crazy double swoop for Almunia and Denilson. A revenge attack like that would be most unwelcome and for some Gooners, more hard to stomach than losing Cesc, Paddy and Henry in some mega cheese induced nightmare…
Pray to the footballing gods they leave us be…
There are mixed rumours concerning Joe Cole today. The Metro said he’s signed up, the Mirror said Joe Cole hasn’t spoken to anyone and intends not to until after the World Cup. Not that it matters if Joe Cole has spoken to Arsenal, it’s hardly going to stop negotiations, Adebayor’s agents did a pretty good job sealing the City deal without speaking to the player until he arrived back in the country.
If I was Joe’s agent, I’d be signing him up now… a month is a long time for the English version of Rosicky to go without picking up a nasty injury.
That said, I’m of the opinion Cole’s agents will be speaking to people right now… I’m more inclined to believe Harry Redknapp when he says a deal has probably been struck than a journo… after all, Harry has probably enquired. It’s amazing how the same people who slag off the media suck up to journalists on twitter and hang off their every word… like some how they’re not part of the media if they’ve got a twitter account?
My thoughts on Theo won’t be new to many of you. I’ve been hugely disappointed with his contribution over the last few seasons. I can’t stand the excuses. How low have we sunk when Gooners are blaming Stuart Pearce for picking him in a competition he had every right to pick him for? Surely Theo was thankful for the opportunity… after all, he only played 29 games (His record) the season before.
I’m not going to beat Theo up over this, but I think it shows that Wenger can’t fool everyone. Our wing wizard needs to take this opportunity to refocus his career and work harder than ever to prove critics like me wrong. I’m desperate for him to prove himself a world-class player and he should take strength from the fact that Aaron Lennon used to get similar flak and he’s turned things around.
If that little turd can do it, so can you Theo!
I’m in Amsterdam over the weekend, I’m on a pro bono scouting mission for Arsenal. I’ll mostly be checking out Dutch right back sensation Gregory van der Wiel. The young Ajax right back is available this summer for the tiny sum of around £4million according to some in the press.
He just landed young player of the year in Holland and can play at centre back as well. He’s a good defender and he can cross a ball unlike our current right back. With Eboue possibly looking to move on and Sagna talking in a slutty manner about Inter Milan, Van Der Wiel could be a terrific option for the Gooners. His idol as a kid was Robin Van Persie but he dreams of becoming as good as Daniel Alves,
“We do have the same style, we both play the whole right flank. Creating combinations, taking a man on, crossing the ball in and scoring. I feel much better on the flank than centrally. My ambitions are open.
I’ll let you know how I get on, in the mean time, if anyone knows any good strip clubs, bars or coffee shops museums or places of great historical interest, please let me know in the comments section.
See you in the comments section!
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Le Grove is now smart phone compatible!
Pedro
Geoff
Liverpool in chaos!! Bid for Gerrard Please!!
FUCK OFF BARCA!!!!
Morning all.
So Arsenal say Cesc isnt for sale at any price, lets just wait an see what amount they get bullied into accepting.
Or will Wenger just give Cesc a pay increase to stay and honour his existing contract?
Nice to see the story finally made it on to Arsenal.com – Only a few days behind Flappy’s greatest save………
1st mofo’s!
Morning Grovers !
bullcrap!!!
no im not first just once!
taig…sounds good to me! Cesc, Gerrard and J.Cole to make up our 3 man midfield!! Niceeee!
Unlucky Theo
Master P – Dreeeeam Teeeeam!!
I must be old, my first mobile phone had a battery you had carry around with you
Took a while but arsenal have finally grown some balls!!
lol..great post.
Bendtner is a god.
Enjoy the dam.
Any news on dross leaving us?
Cant we start a rumour that some club in Spain is after Almunia, or a french club is after denilson?
Denilson to Monaco for 5 mill !!!
Almunia to Getafe for 2 mill !!
Eduardo to Lyon for 8 mill.
Pedders…get down to the Abraxas coffee shop, pronto!!!!!
Fuck Off Barca!! ScummersBid for Gerrard, sign up Joey Cole and we could be looking good in the middle of the park!
Oh And I feel for Inter fans a little.. They have just lost Maureen, now Rafa is rumoured to be lined up!!
taig, that would be a mighty-mighty-mighty midfield!
Get some weed.
If it came to it…who would we need more….
J.Cole…
OR
Gerrard….???????
Get some Isolator!
Good post…
Theo was rubbish for the U21s last summer too, here in Sweden. Didnt score once, if I recall.
If I was Joe Cole, I would wait until after the World Cup – if he wins it then he can ask for higher wages, better appearance fee’s, marketing image money etc…
Fuck off Barca
Arsenal 10/10
Hart
Sagna Subotic Vermaelen Clichy
Song
fabregas Gourcuff
V.Persie Chamack Arshavin
Beat That
Pedro and geoff, you are legends. Great post and Pedro, you are the king of similes.
AMSTERDAM – Try the Three Sisters Pub… Nice selection of beers and great steak house. It’s in the main square. Quite close to a nightclub (Escape), if it’s still open.
Leidseplein 2
Amsterdam 1017
Oh, and up the Gunners. Bring in Joe Hart, Micah Richards and Gerrard.
Pedro,
Banana Bar my Friend just remember to duck when she shots out the flying projectile
Also take in some Northern Lights but not to many ! And of course a cake or two,
Make sure you also visit Leidseplein square its a damn (pun) site better than the red light district as thats the locals area, Top nightlife and bars and no Africans grabbing you every 2 minutes trying to sell you coca or Es !!
Fucking great Country is Holland love the place and the people,
Tasty
that last goal in the van der weil video was nothing short of magic
Maybe he wants the coca and the pills.
van der Wiel is a rich man’s Eboue. Don’t know how good he is defensively though. Atleast he can cross the ball though…
bid for gerrard and agger
we did’t see if VdW is good defending
Morning, Pedro go to Abraxas like Master P mentioned, then walk down to Grey Area coffee shop. The pancake corner to watch some sports and have amazing Dutch pancakes. Then keep walking down the same street where the pancake corner is to go to the whisky bar. When it gets a bit later on the same street is an amazing Jazz bar, you can’t miss it, there is a big saxophone on the wall and some music notes and shit like that, you will see it. After that when the time hits around 11-12 head back to the main station and walk to the 11th floor for some club music. It plays some minimal and shit, I am not a big fan, but the club is great, on the 11th floor with the view of centre Amsterdam, also it won’t cost you more than 10 Euro to enter and beer there is like 2.50…
Hope that was a little of help…
Lol Pedro
I did exactly the same thing with the 7110.
Luckily i lost interest just before I signed up to a similar deal, and got one of them tiny Motorola flip phones.
I had that phone
It was brilliant!
Just ask Dutchman. he should know..
Nokias kick ass! iPhone wished it was a 7110. Bloody thing breaks down if you sneeze while talking. With a Nokia you can talk, sneeze and ward off sexual predators at the same time!
Dan,
Wouldnt go in the place again but its one of them places you must go if youve never been !! Your also get a strangely written postcard from the gaff to which is a giggle !
Defo not tasty mate more like dangerous !! We were meant to catch the flying object but no word of a lie all ducked as it came hurtling towards us it hit the mirror behind us cracking it
When ever we go out our meeting point is old Suzis bar bit of a shithole but good atmosphere
Screw Gerrard. He’s over. It’s not worth paying 20 million for him.
Agger is a crock. We have enough of them.
The only Pool player I’d take is Fernando Torres and maybe Skrtel.
It would be a real shame if barca take Denilson and almuniafrom us
On VDW, he seems good but he looks like he gets bullied outwide, a problem i can’t recall sagna having.
Morning all, top post Pedro, love the phone analagy
Does any1 know why liverpool and chelsea released their new kits, but we have to wait until mid next month???
I wonder if all the people who criticize walcott know how difficult it is to play at ure best when u have had so many injuries. He missed 4 months last season and about 4 months this season… Well I guess people who don’t play competitive sport will never know how tough it is to be at ure best when u have been out for long peeriods
My first phone was the size of a house brick, showing my age or what!!
Dare I say that Gregory van der Wiel looks like a young ashley cole at highbury. Could do with a skillful wing back definitely, one who can actually cross a ball.
no chance, van der wiel to arsenal
Gregory van der Wiel is worth alot more than 4million id expect him to go for double that, Still would be a good signing but again we really really need a keeper and some centre halfs !!
if EbWay goes we will defo miss hhim
7110 – Keanu Reeves made it cool in the Matrix. Loved the bad boy!
anyone hear the ian wright interview on talk sport last night
http://www.talksport.net/index.asp?id=110977&c=&t=#media
morning all, glad to see arsenal be so firm… and theres no way we go back on this now, if we do we will officially be the bitch of every club in the world.
anyone got more info on what Fridays possible good news might be?
If your going their, ask for
“sexy Anna”
shitty really think if they buy 7/8 players every season they will finish in the top 4.
small club really
Yes Rob, what a cunt he is
Reina and Torres, the rest of ‘em can fuck off down the shitta with the rest of the shithouse club when RBS wind them up……;;
i did rob green-
only talked shite! we treat fabregas unfairly, give us a break wrighty.
what a mug
Gooby
They will.
Pedro you always crack me up with your similes, they truly are a thing of pleasure. In regards to Amsterdam all I can say is if the weather is nice and warm and you want to be around beautiful woman sipping on some good drinks go to Strand West Beaches.
Don’t go to live sex shows, they are fucking disgusting.
Very good post Pedro, I reckon Geoff is bang on with his rants, well 99 out of 100
Its a funny thing really. I can always tell whose posted before I get to the bottom of the post. Pedro is techno savy, quite up with the latest, & Geoff is in your/Arsenal’s face. Its like Vince Noir & Howard Moon sort of.
The Park is always nice Pedro, can have a kick around with some skilful Dutch boys and see some girlies in bikinis, they also all talk good English, so no problem to pull them with that delightful cockney accent
WENGER WOULD BE NUTS IF he doesnt include yaya toure in any fabregas deal. we are a yaya toure from winning a title. 40mil + yaya = good deal.
AS for theo, i think he is a big game player, though people may think otherwise, only problem is he wont learn any lesson from this.
He would be the first in the training camp for the next qualifiers after the world cup, i dont know were all this country loyalty has gotten him to.
Jamie carragher did not participate in a single qualifying game, but he is the plane.
if i were walcott, i would ditch the national team, and concentrate on my club career.
Duke did you go to the one with audiance partake, OMG !
Re Amsterdam: Suggest you have a Rijstafel at Sama Sebos Indonesian Restaurant. You will need to book. If theres no tables, you can eat tasty stuff at the bar.
AmsterdamArenA is civilised; you can take your beer to your seat.
The Karpershoek bar opposite Central Station is typical Amsterdam, but not sleazy. If you want sleazy, you’ll have no trouble finding it.
Hart (£16m)
Sagna – Cahill (£14m) – Vermaelen – Gibbs
Nasri – Gerrard (£25m) – Joe Cole (free)
– Arshavin -
Chamakh – RvP
Sell Fabregas for around £50m and that little lot above is more than possible!!
Campbell held initial talks but is waiting to discover if the Hoops will hand their permanent manager’s job to Lennon after an impressive spell as interim boss.
“I’m just waiting for Celtic to settle the situation with Neil,” the 35-year-old told the Scottish Sun.
“When we last spoke, he was waiting to see if he was getting the job. I’d have to make a trip to Glasgow and have a look around, see what’s happening. I will keep my options open.
“I’m not going to rush into anything.”
Campbell, who is out of contract at Arsenal, has previously stated he would prefer to sign a new deal with the Gunners.
He added: “I am happy to wait and give Neil a chance and I will show respect to Arsenal and Celtic.”
If you’re going to Amsterdam make sure to check out the Buldog coffee shop… Legendary place!
Hottest looking prostitutes I have ever seen in Amsterdam. I love that city.
looveee our captain!!!!
taig that team wouldn’t get top four, completely unbalanced, and cahill isn’t good enough to start for a big side
I think Wrighty’s heart is in the right place but he does talk a lot of shit. I suppose he just wants Arsenal to be back up there with the best and is getting frustrated like some of us are.
I was there during the last world cup, there is some great places to watch games in Amsterdam
the banana club pedro…not that i would know……FFS arsene sign gcrouf/ cole & a CB, GK…pepe reina???sell diaby and denilson. make us happy, PLEASE.
A – It would win the EPL, is balanced and Cahill is good enough to start for Arsenal.
Gerrard is not worth 25 million. He’s done for now. I’d rather get Hamsik and Gourcuff. Anyway I expect Cesc to stay now.
whats happened to wrighty, he sounded like a proper mug on talk shiite yesterday, he’s loosing his grip on reality, adrian durum is a proper c*nt as well, they think they know everything, cocks the lot of em.
e4, i agree we all want to see arsenal back up there but they were basically saying sell cesc for 29 mill. WTF?
wrighty just gets carried away, he doesn’t know what wenger and cesc spoke about but gets sucked in by the media bullshit.
Think eboue should start at RB ahead of sagna. on the overlapping runs, his crosses should give chamahk something to jump/run for. Unlike sagna’s ‘im going to get the first defender’ crosses.
I loved my 7110. it was so bad ass. If i still had it now i would probably use it.
Pedro you lucky bastard, i was in Dam last week, go to a little place called quite simply The Coffe Shop, its just behind the red light district located on a corner, you will see it. Its small and sells an awesome array of all things dutch. Heine lager museum is worth a trip. If you wanna go to the Grasshopper (head from central station towards dam square, can’t miss it) thats a good place to catch up with local talent!!!!
Just because Arsenal released that statement doesn’t mean we get to keep Cesc, however it does mean Barca will have to pay shit loads to get him.
have a great day
Mornin’ All. Had a few days off and am well rested.
As an Arsenal fan, I am happy that Theo is not going to the WC because he can have a rest and a full pre-season and it will be a wake up call, but for England I think it is a mistake, as he is one of the few players, who, off of the bench can win a match on his own.
He is very inconsistent, but England always lack pace and their squad does now.
Anyway, it’s been many years since I went to Amsterdam, but the Banana (bar) museum is worth a visit. I never knew all the different uses for a banana!!!!
Pedro, do not go to places like Bulldog and Grasshopper they are made to rip off English tourists, they are way overprices and their product is not as good.
I was a Sony Mars Bar man myself, now that was a phone. I was the 1st at work to get one, and everyone said they would never catch on!!!!
How many still think cesc will be stayin? 7 weeks in spainsih squad with barca players in his ear? i just still think he will be headin hurt me to say it,
England won’t win the WC because they lack a playmaker and a N0.10.
T1m
You should only listen to TalkShite with a huge pinch of salt. Wrighty is not happy that Arsenal did not want SWP, and now he is only after soundbites.
Ginger Bollox Durham, is always anti-Arsenal and stirs up controversy.
This thing about Arsenal fans dissassociating ourselves from England because we have supplied no players is pure spunk.
Upson and Ashley Cole.
I mean Chelsea are only supplying John Terry, so we are doing more for the England team then them.
The Van Gogh Museum is actually rather good.
I loved that phone…but with the new i pad out things have really changed.
Cesc knows Wenger will not allow him to leave on the cheap and may be wenger told him that he is still part of his plans and can or will only leave if he gets the right price. So the offer THAT BARCA PRESENTED WAS A COMPLETE JOKE AND WITH Cesc current valaution we ar not going to negotiate anymore.
Now we get J Cole on a free, Hart, Cahill and Kolshiiitney…
I hope we will be injury free nesxt season.
Reina and kajer!
Still not 100% sure about this JC deal. was told that he was on his way to Man u. Will only believe it when it is announced on the website
Big Dave I’d be surprised if he went to Utd – he’s just bought a new house, got a new kid, and he and family really don’t want to go up north is what I’ve heard
TalkShite is mostly a wind up station, there to generate income from calls and attract money from sponsors impressed by their audience figures. They say something stupid to wind people up, people phone in to complain/argue/agree and they make shed loads of cash. Unfortunately, Wrighty is doing his bit for the show too. Firstly as a former host and as a token angry gooner wishing to stir up a row.
Dave, he’s a London boy with a London social network… moving up north would be a shitter for a 28 year old.
I suspect he’s sounded Arsenal out about the move… he sees he’ll be a star and he knows he’ll get games.
We’re the perfect club for him.
http://www.footballpress.net/?action=read&idsel=61732
joe coles new house (wanstead i think) is about 40 mins from london colney
only 10 mins from yids training ground though….
Thanks for all the recommendations guys!
Morning all
would love to go to Amsterdam
Anyway as pre usual we’r commenting on the rumours
looks like we’r serious abt getting that CB from Lorient…which is positive news…lets hope its wrapped up b4 the world cup. They want Le Coq on loan from us…i say check them 2 more, because we need our youth/reserves to get the best experience
The Joe Cole rumours haven’t stopped…could it be that his agent is spreading these rumours to entice others clubs – ManU/City/Villa? might be/might not be
Lets hope Barca make a high bid asap and lets get rid of the Fabregas saga. Get the players we need signed up and lets get rid of the trash/unwanted players.
beautiful day
that half hour wouldn’t make any difference when choosing a club, the trek up to manchester would though
i think we’ve offered him a contract, and he’s said he wants to decide after the world cup.
So if he has a wonder world cup he’ll sign for Madrid, if he flops he’ll accept the contract
lol km he doesn’t want to go north, but i’m sure nobody would want to move to brum!
we should offer then traore and 3m for that CB, gibbs is much better
AT, he’ll get gauranteed Champions League football with Arsenal and he know’s we’re the most likely to remain in the top 4 out of the North London clubs.
Not to mention our superior stadium, history and training facilities.
E4 Paul
agree with u mate
and yes they are all a bunch of bastards!
esp. that cunt Durham
proper yobs…they’d fit right in at Hull FC
Pedro just listen to me, used to work there, if you stick to my program you will not be disappointed…
Is the story about his new home right?
10 mins away from the yid’s'training groud!
Was arry having a laugh with his comments
If these players appear on the transfer linked site on Arsenal, does that mean they are not coming ?
ie Cole/Gurcoff etc
TAIG
Nasri, Gerrard & Cole in a 3 man MF
Are you being serious?!!
A
are we dead cert that he doesn’t want to move out of London?
it could be paper talk…he hasn’t come out and said ‘ I WANT TO STAY IN LONDON!!’
morning All…
Top post Pedro…good read…bring that van der wiel fellah back then…;)and yes of course have a great *trip*—..
Pedro:
Your mission, to be carried out on behalf of all Grovers, is to visit every one of the above establishments, and then write monday’s post. We’ll be signing Keith Richards, Dillon from the Magic Roundabout and some weird shit Space Alien you met!
10 mins or 40 mins makes no difference gooby for something like that.
big dave no that means nothing, every player that’s been rumoured in the tabloids since they started doing it has been put on there, apart from rodallega, but i’d imagine that was because yesterday they had a bigger statement to make!
It’s just the web team trying to make the website more tabloidy for those that like transfer rumours
ped… i agree but seemed strange to buy a place when you dont know where your gonna be playing next year?
i saw him out on Saturday but didn’t get the chance to ask him, all my spurs mates were 100% about being a yid, but after harry’s comments it seems he’s anybodies… unless you know something your not sharing old boy?
KM he wouldn’t say that, but it’s pretty accepted, just bought a new house and got a new kid, so relocating would be pretty annoying.
Although either way he wouldn’t go to villa….
Dont be silly, Pedro will be spending all his time in the Bulldog, eating space cakes & in the RLD.
Hi
Everyone have seen this Koncielny guy is any good
Apparently Wenger wants him so bad
Lorient slap 15 Million Euros Price tag
(I mean Micah Richard is on sale for 7 Mil)
http://www.footballpress.net/?action=read&idsel=61732
“Maybe next time, Arsenal could quell the speculation early? That’d be nice wouldn’t it. Far more productive than sending a world of Gooners into a blind panic for two weeks.”
nice line
made me chuckle
gAMBON
i’m thinking what ur thinking
that midfield is too attack heavy…no one to sit
imo
we should get Parker….out of the world cup – a move to Arsenal would definately give him a lift
he would be the runner in midfield alongside Song and although he’s 29(?) he would be gr8 because we need some English players in our team with a bit of grit and Parker has been brilliant at West Ham. He’d cost us abt £10m, but we could chuck some players there on loan/sell them trash on the cheap
hmmm lets see what Amsterdam known for…..coffee,great windowshopping …ajax…clogs…damned there must be more ? ;
Obviously with the new rules coming in we need as may English players as possible. so getting J.Cole,Parker, an English keeper(?) and the polish CB frm Lorient would be good imo.
Parker isnt good enough, could sit on the bench i suppose.
We need toughness, physicality, agressiveness.
Guys, space cakes, Dutch beer and beautiful legal hookers is not what this trip is about…
It’s about culture.
Though I will be checking out some of the venues you’ve put out there!
Duke, I’ve e-mailed your comment out to the people I’m going with. I’ve listed all the others as well. Where would you say we should avoid?
People who don’t know London always say you should go to Leicester Sq for a good night out… I want to avoid going to the Leicester Sq of Amsterdam!
Fuck culture
Space cakes washed down with a space shake.
well Incesc….
wenger sort of gave us a clue..when he said to cesc..leave it in my hands..
and then Gazidis just waited for the right moment…as they say back in the States that fellah is a devil in disquise…
still i dont think thats the end of the cesc saga….what cesc shpuld do right know is growing up..and just come out and say…honestly that he is more than happy to stay put and that he still wants to return to ***** at a later stage in his career….that would be a decent thing to do…
A… 10- 40mins makes no difference? thats only your opinion mate… he might not fancy an hour and half drive every day?!
Bloody good post man!! Ahhh Amsterdam…where do I begin? Well for starters….am not remembering much..
It’s Gourcuff’s father who is the trainer of Koscielny’s club, so Arsenal better play nice! Maybe even convince Christian Gourcuff that his son Yoann would make a great move by coming to us
i think old twitch is stiring the shiite, i rekon JC will go to the spuds, maybe twitch should go on the radio as well!
hit as many cafes as you can have a walk around the red light district in between joints, maybe have a butchers at the skunk museum place they had huge plants with buds the size of a fist there a few years ago!
Spuds cant afford Cole.
dont know any culture bars there pedro, what TF are they!
the bulldog is the absolute bollocks… 24 hour smoking is fucking beautiful
so no one thinks that there is a chance joe coles ‘people’ have let this story leak in order to make other clubs panic and up their offer for him?
wouldnt be so sure about that Gambon.
Why does anybody think that anything Harry “The Don” Redknapp is true?
The man is the biggest crook in football and speaks with a forked tongue.
gooner… its another way of saying “gay bar” i think mate
@ Pedro, Yes our fullbacks must up their crossing however, buying another Eboue is stupid, our fullbacks must stops goals and defend 1st rather than glorified attacking fullback.
I am happy with way Wenger rotates the 2 fullback depending if we need to attack defensive teams or be balanced against lively teams.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-article/Barcelona-to-target-Robben-if-Fabregas-bid-fails/8106/
Pedro..you should get a hold of the magazine Amsterdam weekly…and if your interested in concerts..theres a magazine called Uitkrant…at least you will know whats going on…well anyways have a great weekend:
Supergunner07 – we absolutley need attacking fullbacks if we persist with 4-3-3 but we need ones that can score and cross!!!
Cesc is like a new signing
not a chance mike – capello has put a ban on anyone negotiating or signing for anyone until after the world cup, so he won’t be looking at any offers now
henry14 says:
June 3, 2010 at 11:13
Supergunner07 – we absolutley need attacking fullbacks if we persist with 4-3-3 but we need ones that can score and cross!!!
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40 bloody goals conceded, do the maths. Plus we tend to play combination passing game and crossing apart from when Charmark starts
With JC – i said yesterday i think it’s rubbish – i think City myself.
However, i am 50/50 anyway i would like him but not that bothered if he comes or not to be honest.
This talk of him wanting to stay in London makes sense – but let’s face it that’s what everyone is basing there facts on and nobody knows if he cares if he moves to Manchester for a few years or not!!
need some advice guys
my mobile phone contract is expiring this month (like Joe Cole’s) so i was wondering which phone to look at.
I like the N97 mini – what do u guys think? is that a good phone?
Supergunner07 – i agree mate 40 goals conceeded is a fucking disaster!
But you can’t play 4-3-3 without attacking fullbacks so you either need better ones (which we do) or you change the system.
Nokia 3210
Got into the room about 7 ish, (Amsterdam) switched on the telly and boom a no hold bar blue movie appeared before my very eyes, hardcore.
Beat watching the one show with fat lamps bird, can u imagine this country doing this at 7 pm.
AT – Pedro wouldn’t be looking for the “gay scene” would he??
city is the last place joe cole would go, not a chance in hell
henry14 says:
June 3, 2010 at 11:18
Supergunner07 – i agree mate 40 goals conceeded is a fucking disaster!
But you can’t play 4-3-3 without attacking fullbacks so you either need better ones (which we do) or you change the system.
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System was changed because of Cesc, as 2 DM is needed when using 442 to cover 4 players plus another fullback who are going forward.
Sagna’s crossing isn’t bad plus Charmark will turn average cross into goals. Clichy is the concern, I would employ Gibbs on that flank when Charmark starts.
Henry14
sort of agree on the JC saga
no one knows yet
Arsenal/City/Utd are the only clubs capable of paying his wage demands. no – one else can ….
But only Arsenal & ManU are in the champions league
gooner… i hope not mate!
Koscielny could be on his way to Arsenal
http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/06/coquelins-lorient-loan-not-connected-with-koscielny-move/
SG
i actually think Clichy plays quite well. its Sagna i’m more worried abt…he is good defensively but is wank offensively…..he never shoots at goal or tries to take a man on or get near the penalty box. we need an attacking FB’s a 4-3-3 esp. due to the fact we don’t have out and out winger’s
therefore i think the dutch RB would be a good swap
Supergunner… though I’d agree we need a good defender, we also need a guy who can deliver a good cross. Sags and Clichy are useless in that department and apparently not the best at defending these days!
Mind you… I put a lot of our goals down to the goalkeeping issues we’ve faced.
Pedro,
For an experience of a lifetime try Gogonuts! Don’t tell anyone!
GoonerTim, someone told me you don’t get gays in Holland?
haha, I love the seedy secret lives of the Grovers…!
Great piece! Really enjoyed reading that!
Hopefully we see Monsieur Wenger making some moves soon!
Long live the Red Army!
One thing that this Fab Barca episode has done is made Wenger to commit to Fabregas to make the right moves this summer.
I havent said this in the last 3 years, I am going to do now, with an if..
If we do get Cole, and a Vermaelenesque signing at CB, and one proven consistent GK,and provided no one except Gallas, Sylvestre leave…. we are going places this coming season.
KM – i know what your saying – but let’s face it if they spend as everyone thinks they will and like it’s looking, they will be in the champions league next season for sure.
So £150K a week for 4 years – but you won’t play in the champions league for 1 season?
What do you recon?
There are only 4 options for Cole, City, Utd, Arsenal or Spurs.
If Spurs have ruled themselves out and if the Arsenal thing is bollox, it’s City or Utd.
Utd are on the decline with huge debts and an aging squad but they do have Rooney.
or City who have a balanced squad age wise and all the money to buy the best players.
What do you recon?
Heskey has been replaced in the England squad by a cumbrian taxi driver…..
apparently he’s had more shots on target today than Heskey has had all season!
It ain’t over until it’s over, Pedro. There are three long months prior to the window closing, so anything could happen on the Cesc front. Money is the only thing holding this deal up, Arsenal ARE a selling club, PHW would’ve sold his own mother at the right price, so why not Cesc?
lol @ DDM
Charlie, I am pretty certain Cesc will not be leaving under any circumstances.
Oh Dear!!
http://shop4online.co.uk/Free-Mens-Irish-Sun-Anyone-But-The-French-t-shirt/productinfo/1011/
He probably wants to play in the CL so he is not moving shitty
IMHO
i hope your right pedders, on both counts !!
henry14 spurs havn’t ruled themselves out, quite the opposite.
City aren’t even an option, it’s Arsenal, Spurs, Utd, and likelihood is in that order imo, but we won’t know until after the world cup.
charliegeorge we stood firm with vieira and henry in their prime, same will happen with cesc
Its now some 10 years or so after they’ve gone we now realise how much of a genius George Graham was. He had fullbacks that attacked, were good crossers but more importantly defended like their lives depended on keeping clean sheets.
Money talks, Pedro, money talks, and nobody loves the folding stuff more than PHW. After all, what’s kept AW in a job up until now? The fact he makes money for the club, as distinct from what really counts …
Pedro – spend an hr in the Van Gogh museum in the afternoon. you will have had your fill of culture and can then go an enjoy the nightlife
Yes A. And Vieira and Henry went on to win things. And that was after they saw the writing on the wall.
http://www.coffeeshop.freeuk.com/RicksCafe.html
Have a great time in the dam. This coffee shop is very good. Scottish waitress. Nice food as well, nice place to chill.
Hopefully we’ll get some defenders signed…..I like the sound of Kościelny….that would be a good deal but we need to sort this out. Gallas is leaving. Sol is thjinking about it. Lets just find players who want to play for us, Jagielka for eg. He would be awesome with Vermaelen. 2 Prem league experienced defenders….Jagielka and Cahill + Koscielny = 3 central defenders in. 3 central defenders out = Campbell, Gallas and Silvestre. That’s what we need.
I bought the 7110 on PAYG! Cost me £150 but was totally worth it for the kudos it got me at school because it looked like the phone in the Matrix! Endless hours of fun pushing the silver button at the back to make the slidey thing go down! lol!
“I’m not saying that if he hadn’t agreed a deal with someone and he was available, we wouldn’t be interested. I’m a big fan of Joe’s, but the feedback we’ve had is that he might well have already done something.”
Hardly sounds like Spurs have ruled themselves in… reads like they were told not to bother.
E4, GG was a genius, love that man, he knew how to defend, what a difference from what we have now.
If you ever go to Cumbria, take the bus, it’s murder trying to get a taxi!!
Wenger is playing his last chance next year, at least from
The fan base point of view.
He needs to deliver and i believe we’ll get trophy next season, otherwise…
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2565/exclusives/2010/06/03/1956393/stressed-fabregas-examining-legal-options-to-push-through?
USUAL BULLSHIT COMES UP FROM CUNTLUNYA…
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2565/exclusives/2010/06/03/1956393/stressed-fabregas-examining-legal-options-to-push-through
PEDRO,
Mate stay well clear of spending all your nights around the red light district in the shitty bulldog bars and stuff, they are a rip off and as i say you get approached every couple of minutes by africans grabbing you and trying to sell you all sorts not the Liqourice variety !
Go down to Leidaspein Sq its like Old Street is to Leicester square A proper good night out,
Apparently Fabregas wants to take legal actions to engineer his move to Barca. Cesc is turning into a Cunt if this true.
Two-bob, classless fucking outfit, just when will UEFA step in after AFC’s official stance…..
Henry
i dnt think ManU will mind giving him a 4-yr contract for £120 p/week, ManU pay quite high salaries.
Imo if it comes to ManU offering £120k p/week
City offering £150k p/week, he’l go to Utd because then he’l be able to play in his preffered position – central attacking midfield with fletcher protecting and Carrick sitting deep
—————-Rooney
Nani ———–J.Cole —–Valenica
—————-Fletcher
—————-Carrick
also Utd are in the champions league and already have a title winning squad…City haven’t broken into the top4 yet!
Walcott was 33-1 to miss out on a WC place.
Just came across this perusing News Now. If it’s true, there’s gonna be one unhappy player wearing the number 4 shirt at the Emirates next season. Nuff said.
‘Stressed’ Fabregas examining legal options to push through move from Arsenal to Barcelona
Gunners midfielder increasingly anxious dream move will fall through
3 Jun 2010 10:46:00
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EXCLUSIVE
By Wayne Veysey | Chief Correspondent
Cesc Fabregas is examining his legal options in a bid to force through a move to Barcelona, Goal.com UK can exclusively reveal.
The Arsenal skipper is so keen to engineer a transfer to his boyhood club that he has even considered the possibility of exploiting a FIFA rule that allows players to buy out the remainder of their contract.
The problem for Fabregas is that it would cost £28.6million to buy out his £110,000-a-week contract, which has five years still to run.
Article 17 of FIFA’s Regulations for the Status and Transfer of Players, known as the ‘Webster ruling’, states that a player who signed a deal before the age of 28 can buy himself out of the remainder of the contract three years after the deal was signed.
FABREGAS TRANSFER TIMELINE
THURSDAY MAY 13
Fabregas: I would like to go to Barca
TUESDAY MAY 18
Fabregas flies to London for face-to-face talks with Wenger & says he wants to leave Arsenal
WEDNESDAY JUNE 2
Barcelona reveal they have begun formal negotiations with Arsenal for Fabregas but
Arsenal swiftly reject a £29.2m offer
Read the definitive timeline in full
Fabregas would be eligible because he signed his original eight-year contract in 2006 before, as Goal.com UK exclusively revealed, it was topped up last year with a £3m ‘golden handcuffs’ payment, a 40 per cent pay rise and extended by another 12 months.
The 23-year-old is understood to be increasingly anxious about whether his return to Barcelona will go-ahead and has told friends that he is feeling “stressed” and “powerless” as the negotiations between the two clubs becoming increasingly fractious.
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is keen for Fabregas to commit to another year at Emirates Stadium but the player is adamant that he wants to return to Spain after the World Cup.
Barca made a bid of £29.2m on Tuesday evening but their first official approach met with a blunt refusal from Arsenal.
Arsenal’s attitude now is that they will only respond to specific offers from Barcelona for Fabregas and will not enter into any negotiations, whether formal or informal.
The Premier League club issued a statement, believed to have been written by Gunners chief executive Ivan Gazidis, on Wednesday, which was their first since Fabregas informed Wenger that he wanted to leave, and was unusually strongly worded.
“Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas is under contract with the club until the summer of 2015,” said the statement. “He is a highly valued member of the team and part of our future plans. As there has never been any official approach for him, only two informal exchanges, in which we made it abundantly clear that we have no interest in transferring Cesc, we have refrained from publicly passing comment.
“However, [on Tuesday evening] we received an offer from Barcelona for Cesc and in response, we immediately and resolutely told them once again that we have no intention of selling our captain.
“We will not make any kind of counterproposal or enter into any discussion. Barcelona have publicly stated that they will respect our position and we expect that they will keep their word.”
That, however, is highly unlikely, with Barcelona believing that they have now taken the first step in a process of negotiations.
“We won’t be hasty but nor will we let up,” said Barcelona director Rafael Yuste. “The ball is in Arsenal’s court now and as we have an exceptional relationship with them I am optimistic.”
If that’s true, Cesc is as bad as Ade-the-whore.
on a completely different subject..
we should buy hazard or turan..
anyone??
Where’s the coldest place in UK today?
I hear Whitehaven is -12
GoonerT1m
Sometimes I think people forget how good he actually was. The defence up to 2002 were mostly GG’s men. What would we be like if we had a keeper like Seaman now? Or, a leader like Adams and defenders that had more effect than laxatives in giving the shits to attackers.
Yes its been great watching the smooth attacking style of Wenger but I must admit I also loved watching Adams, Bould, Winterburn & Dixon crunching into tackles too.
Cheers Chippy!
I’m not really too interested in the hookers…
Getting fucked and pulling a bird I don’t have to pay would be better.
It’s goal.com, so obviously just made up.
All their stories come from re-hashing things in the media, or from nothing, they won’t actually have sources and such like.
charliegeorge,
Wouldnt beleive that shit for a minute thats bee feed straight from barcas media wing they are Cunts of the highest order,
Me im taking a chill pill on this Cesc stuff now, as for the first time in a long while i actually beleived that statement from Arsenal yesterday, You may think im mad but fuck it if they screw us over on this one i will strike them down
Mickey,
Nowt wrong with Zibidee he would be immense in a 3 man midfield
Vicoa, Turan is a very good player but the yids have already signed him. Will be announced after the WC. He scored in his last two games for Turkey.
Who the fuck are Goal.com anyway?
Where did they spring up from?
great post pedro,
I think Cesc is hell bent on leaving and he has let the Barca guys know this.
The bid from Barca is a little more than his buy out amount, which really tells a story.
Both
*vica
Cheers Craig!
E12, I bet Turan is a pile of shite. I read he’s staying on for another year where he is.
No way that Goal.com story is right. Noone in the world would consider spending 30m on themselves to move club. If he was serious about leaving he would hand in a transfer request and only lose out on the 3m he got last year and his signing on fee for Barca.
E12, where did you hear that about Arda? I read Liverpool were the favourites because he wanted to sign for them….only god knows why though.
I think Hazard is a better value for money than Gourcuff.
If any amount less than 20 million is accepted for Hazard, we should take it.
Stu, you can’t buy yourself out of a contract like that.
Oh ok Pedro,but I read somewhere that it was deffo a done deal.
Peds,
Im the same mate but beleive me they are tempting as most are stunners !! There was one a couple of trips back that looked a dead ringer for courtney cox and i must admit i was well tempted !!! But i managed to swerve her,
If you do get pissed and decide to venture into a window stay well clear of the ones with blue lights as they have extra bits by all accounts if you get my drift
Defo that sq then plenty of Dutch talent to choose from and you will have a good night, How long you going for?
I wouldn’t believe anything said on Goal.com. For a start do you honestly believe the contract thing with Fabregas and him being able to buying himself out? For a change I will defend the Arsenal management team on this. I’m pretty confident that they would have known Fabregas’s desire to return one day and therefore topped him up on a “new” contract if only to retain control and prevent such a situation from happening.
I dont believe Cesc buy out clause would be that low Ikon, if he has one at all.
That story has got to be the most most obvious move the media could have made!! Its the only way to keep a story from becoming a non-story!!
ARSENAL turned down a £31million offer for Cesc Fabregas from Barcelona last night.
But Gunners fans will still be worried as the midfielder has been left off a photo including seven players for the club’s membership renewal form.
Andrey Arshavin, Robin van Persie, Eduardo, Denilson, Kieran Gibbs, Emmanuel Eboue and Thomas Vermaelen feature on the email – but there is no sign of the skipper.
Fabregas, 23, was desperate to seal a move to his boyhood club before the World Cup kicks off but it is now clear boss Arsene Wenger will play hard-ball and let both Barca and the player sweat.
The North Londoners are adamant there would be no negotiation as the Spaniard is not for sale.
It means the saga is likely to drag on during the World Cup, just as we told you last week. And Arsenal’s stance will leave Fabregas seething.
An Arsenal statement said: “Yesterday evening we received an offer from Barcelona for Cesc and in response, we immediately and resolutely told them once again we have no intention of selling our captain.
“We will not make any kind of counter-proposal or enter into any discussion.
“Barcelona have publicly stated they will respect our position and we expect they will keep their word.
“Fabregas is under contract with the club until the summer of 2015. He is a highly-valued member of the team and part of our future plans.”
Nou Camp vice-president Rafael Yuste said: “Cesc wants to play for Barca and the whole world knows that we also want to sign him but there is a third fundamental actor in this and that is Arsenal.
“Until a few days ago the conversations were informal but since Tuesday they are formal.
“We will not go in a hurry but we will not pause either. Now the ball is in Arsenal’s court.”
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2997523/Cesc-missing-from-fans-email.html#ixzz0pmozx7SA
The 80m sought by Arsenal to release Cesc is nothing more than an ambit claim. Every man and his dog knows this. They will meet somewhere in the middle. And every man and his dog equally know that:
ONE, Barcelona are like a dog with a bone.
TWO, Arsenal are a selling club
THREE, Cesc wants to go home.
@E12
i dont think liverpool can afford him..
apparentely benitez has been told dat there will be no transfer funds for him..
btw the reply to Barca’s bid on the official site was a piece of classy write up.
Hope we make it through to the start of the season with Fabregas still with us.
He is still very very crucial for this club.
Chippy, that blue light advice is probably the best I’m going to get today! haha!
Shit… that’d be embarrassing!
ArsenalKenya
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“But Gunners fans will still be worried as the midfielder has been left off a photo including seven players for the club’s membership renewal form”
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That is an extremely pertinent point.
Stu it will be yearly wages * no of years remaining of his contract…
he is on i think 5-6 million on wages make that * 5 years, you get around 30 million.
So its not actually in his contract as a buy out amount then Ikon. Not like Ronaldinho had with like 100m or Messi with probably 200m.
man….the papers can really make things up…they’r so desperate to get fabregas to barca…
“stressed”..???
haha…..bunch of cunt holes….
They are in for robben, they don’t have the funds to
Buy everybody
Now Real have Maureen, Guardiola will prob only be there 1 more season anyway.
They will sack him when they don’t win anything next year.
If i was going to put £10K on one of them winning the title’s next year it’s on Maureen every single time.
I hope he dominates Spanish football for the next 5 years and Barca win FUCK all.
correct Stu, i meant this way when i said buy out amount.
Not the usual one mentioned in the contract.
Also in the real buy out case no legal proceedings are required, here it is. And prolly Cesc would have to show proper reasons for his choice for exiting.
If I remember correctly, in one such case the player had shown the lack of playing time as the reason for his exit. Cesc will find it tough to convince that he is not getting ample opportunities at Arsenal.
Hmm … What about this … Fabregas mysteriously comes up with the near £30m to buy himself out of his contract. Now we know why Barcelona’s opening bid is in the vicinity of £30m. Bye bye Fabregas …
The kid is good!
Gregory Van De What a player!
And music is fantastic!
I hope he signs for Chelsea
Here’s a question: why can’t Barcelona stump up the money to buy out Cesc’s contract? What’s stopping them?
The only way that would make any sense is it Cesc bought out his contract for 30m, which would never happen, and he joins Barca and they give him a signing on fee of 35m to make up for it. About a 1% chance of that ever happening.
Im sure that would probably be illegal under uefa rules CG. Cant imagine it being allowed for one club to buy out a player from another clubs contract.
Stu Cesc wont buy out if Barca dont pay for it.
35 million is too much for anyone to engineer a move just cause you want to go “home”
Stu
That money can be spread out over a number of years, as many as it takes. And that fee would be amortised through shirt sales, increased sponsorship, etc.
Stu there are ways i guess…
give a 10 million signing on bonus and distribute the remaining 25 over 4 years…. he will be earning more than 200k per week then i guess.
Charlie, you can’t buy someone out of a contract… it’s as simple as that.
of course cesc isn’t going to buy out the contract, he couldn’t afford it, and barca couldn’t pay it.
they couldn’t just give him a £35 mil signing on clause, that would be illegal
the story is bollocks, made up by a bollocks website!
Makes sense from Barca’s point of view … on one hand a £30m signing on fee if Cesc buys out his contract or (hopefully) a much bigger transfer fee if he doesnt because he’s on such a long contract and Arsenal (hopefully) dont want to sell.
Charlie – do you want him to go? Every post is about him leaving and the ways in which he can.
If Barca could do that – they would have done it before making an offer! What was to stop them doing it with Villa? I bet he didn’t have 5 years to run on his contract and they paid £35M for him.
It’s Bollox. There is no way a player who has 5 years left on his contract can simply decide to buy himself out of it.
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/EuroSpy-transfer-news-Arsenal-to-offer-7m-plus-Francis-Coquelin-and-Armand-Traore-for-Lorient-defender-Laurent-Koscielny-article446747.html
This will he, won’t he will go on for the next 3 months and there will be loads more anti-arsenal bolloxs in the press – there always is.
Personally i think £50M/£60M and 4 new quality players with that money would benefit us more than keeping Cesc.
However, i love the guy and would of course love him to stay so if he does i am still happy as larry.
There hasn’t been much talk about Exits from Arsenal as yet, if this Joe Cole thing is true – i recon someone will be leaving.
Any thoughts?
Someone said – £15/£18M for Arshavin and he’s out and JC on a free?
That does to be fair sound like Wenger business!
henry14 of course it’s a laughable story.
If that could happen then there wouldn’t ever be transfer fees unless a club wanted rid of a player….
And transfer windows wouldn’t apply either, as a player could cancel his contract, become a free agent, then sign for someone else.
It’s an amusing story trying to cause problems for us, written by someone with no understanding of the rules and regulations
If Cesc is to go I hope it happens sooner rather than later.
If we get Joe Cole I would worry about us signing Gourcruff as I think AW will only then sign Hazard for midfield.
Cole for me is a bonus but cant be relied upon so we need Gourcruff and another midfielder in my opinion.
Talk of Traore and Coquelin going th Loreinet, will be the end of Troare and Arsenal as if we were serious about keeping him he should be loaned to Bolton or Blackpool.
If Barcelona arent paying a transfer fee, why couldnt they give him a signing on fee for as much as they liked … The only reason I can think of against this, is that football clubs generally dont stump up the entire fee for a player straight away – they pay it off over a few years. So with Barcelona’s current financial problems and with the £35m they have spent on David Villa recently, they may not have the money to pay £30m for a signing on fee up front in full.
No way i could see us letting coquelin go anywhere permanently. he’s in talks to go there on loan tho.
Cesc isn’t going to go rocky, so we’re fine! gourcuff anyways would be nice….
Pedro
There are 22 different reviews in the link below for amsterdam,some of them with picture/slideshows also…
read all of them…hope it helps
http://www.mouthshut.com/product-reviews/Amsterdam-925021651.html
I’m hearing you, guys. But the fact remains that we should not underestimate Cesc’s desire to leave (no, I rather he didn’t, but I actually really admire this man’s character and talent, and it’s bad management that’s forced this upon him), Bareclona’s desire to get their man, nor Arsenal’s willingness to sell at the right price (whatever that is).
From Wikipedia:
In April 2009 FC Sion were told by FIFA that they could not sign any players until the 2010 offseason, as punishment for signing Egyptian goalkeeper Essam El-Hadary from Al-Ahly in 2008 before his contract expired.[2] The club appealed to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, who froze the sanction pending a ruling, expected by the end of 2009.[2] The ban was eventually lifted by FIFA.
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“The ban was eventually lifted by FIFA.”
Does anyone here trust FIFA’s integrity when it comes to their own rules?
Would Arsenal be prepared to defy Cesc’s wishes; would they be prepared to take him to court?
Just putting it out there ….
I am worried about us potentially signing this Ffrench Polish guy as yes Verm was a great signing last year but he was moreso established this guy isnt even an International.
Would prefer a bit of experience to slot in alongside Verm just incase he got a bit of second season syndrome, I dont think he will but just in case.
charliegeorge you’re honestly trying to link that to something that would happen with cesc and barca?!
Balague on SSN now so will no doubt be asked about Cesc. Lets see what he has to say……..
Thing I worry about A is Barca can free up funds at a moment notice by selling
Zlatan – 40 Million
Yaya – 20 million
Bojan – 10 million
Henry – 5 million
Chyrioky – 15 million
Of couse Coq s move is a loan but Troare imho spells end of his time here
Balague says Gerrard is wanted by 4 other English clubs!! Interesting.
I hope Traore stays.
He gives something which others dont.
Height, ability to cover for out of position CBs and most importantly his crosses are very very good.
Balague says we should keep pushing Laporta all the way as he is desperate to take Cesc to Barca as his final act. And Like RockyPires just pointed out it looks as if they are going to sell Ibrahimovic to generate the cash!!
Seaman on SSN……
I don’t liken Seaman backing Almunia. Not one little bit.
Hopefully off to Lords later to watch 20/20
I dont like anyone backing Almunia really.
Seaman’s just backing AW, tony, not Alumnia. In other words, he’s doing it by proxy.
Big Dave,
GoodMan, Nothing like a trip to the home of cricket to watch Middx well Apart from a trip to Highbury (sigh) to see The Arsenal two perfect English institutions and if you throw the Mighty Quinns into the Mix Rugby Wise a perfect Treble,
A day out at Sandown or Ascot for the races is never to be overlooked either !!
Pedro,
Haha Some look quite convincing !! Just dont tell your mates lol
A.
Anything is possible. The three variables are in place. As tony said with regards to Balague, Barcelona are desperate to get their man. Tick one variable.
Of the 4 EPL’s intrested in Gerrard I guess us,Citeh,Chelsea and ????
Gerrard would work well for us and be a role model for Wilshere,Ramsey and Lansbury but would be expensive and I dont know whether he would aplly himself for this club as he does for Pool.
Best option for him would be a move to Madrid.
Reunion with Alonso, coached by Maureen,big money move,wag happy in Spain, think its a runner.
RP,
United would Defo be interested id be surprised if we were due to his age in all honesty, No re sale value,
Rocky
Gerrard would “kill” Denilson. And I doubt whether he would trust the vision, Cesc doesn’t.
I expect the Goal.com guy to be Spanish or a La Liga follower. English clubs don’t have buy out clauses.
chippy – Never in a million, trillion, zillion years would Gerrard, a born and bred scouser go and play for Utd. he has openly said on camera before that he actually hates them as much as he can hate anything.
If Gerrard goes anywhere it will be abroad he wont stay in this country thats for sure,
Gerrard will probably get shot in the knee if he jumps ship to Utd.
taig..
but who would buy ibra for barca’s asking price..i doubt even city wouldnt go fot it..
TAIG,
I said United would be interested not that he would go there!!
But then again never dismiss Footballers they can do the most unlikely things remember Mo Johnstone !! or to a lesser degree Campbell and Rooney ! To be fair the i think hed probably be snuffed out if he signed for United
It’s funny how the press is fretting now that the Cesc quotes and the Arsenal response go against what 90% of them said.
Fab could still move to Barca but it certainly won’t be after an emotional heart-to-heart with Wenger. It will be a professional decision taken by the 3 parties. Least of all being Barca.
chippy – all of his gangster mates (see ‘Pancake’ the real father of Alex Gerrard’s kid) would be less than impressed!
Gotta be Real Madrid all the way!
the goon – They’ll be a mug out there somewhere. They wont be bothered at not getting a top price for him if it means they can bring in Cesc.
the goon there’s talk it’s only £35 mil or so, which would be a very good signing for city or chelsea imo
Yep,
sorry couldnt resist, Then again if he keeps acting like a lemon it wont be long before hes given a squeeze hell be back in Pool in a jiffy,
Pancake would batter him
Depends If Madrid has a good supply of coke as well as designer shops if the rumours of his mrs are anything to go by !
David James number one for the world cup then
yep may be city can afford rather would be willing to pay ,after they flog off the whore …
Zlatan,Ade,Tevez,Robinho,Ireland,Richards,Lescott,Bellamy, poor Mancini thats more like an enrolement to a mental asylum than a football team, the egos those lads have are bigger than than whole club.
Gerrard to Madrid?
Whats gonna happen to Kaka then?
Never rated Ibra that highly whenever he came up against us before Barca this year he was wank, Good player no doubt but not anyway near as good as Toress or Henry,Drogba, Eto etc in their prime
+ Hes meant to be a fucking nuissance in the dressing room, City are welcome to him !!
KM – He’s gonna become a gooner of course!!
Kaka will go to utd next season..
Could this work?
_________Alonso__Gerrard
_____Kaka___________Ronaldo
________Benzema___Higuain
RP,
Add Lucio,Evra,Maicon one more CB and Casillas…
and that will be a juggernaut team
I won’t post the link here, but Arseblog’s response to the Arsenal comments is worth a read.
I do wonder about Macion as Sergi Ramos is the pinup boy over there and is also vice-captain, its hard to see them dropping Ramos unless of course they put him centerhalf.
If it is treu that we want koscielny but we don’t want to give them 10m, then wenger is a stupid stubborn facker!He always has a price in his head for a player and he is not going to change that price. He is so stubborn!!
Rocky Mourinho has already said that he thinks Ramos will be a better centre back than right back, so Maicon will almost certainly come in. If they get Ashley Cole he’d be a great signing, then Gerrard into the midfield. Get Drogba up top and they’re sorted!
Dutchman that’s not a bad thing, and far from stupid.
If Wenger is going for an £8 mil pound centre back, but can only get him for £10 mil, then he should go and find a £10 mil centre back he could get for £10 mil, not just piss £2 mil down the toilet.
whats happening people??? give me some fresh arsenal news….
isn’t anything at all Master P
Boom boom, shake the room!
What are we talking about today?
so negative A
cafes in the dam
My money’s on Joe Cole, Koscielny, a GK and one more player who can play at both CB and DM.
Has anyone seen Koscielny play? It’d be great if he turned out to be a Vermaelen type signing.
I’d be very happy with that Rohan, even without joe cole
actually no not very happy, as i’d rather the cb be someone more experienced than kos
Rohan, player who can play DM and CB = diakhete
Really Dutchman? I heard he was just a centre back, and wiki says he’s only played left back or wide midfielder, or in goal!
Left back mean left footed, in which case it’s gibberish?
so all this j cole business is rubbish,these papers are really making themselves look like cunts.
So L’equipe say we have had a second bid for Koscielny turned down, and we are interested in Loic Remy.
Remy would be an excellent option, especially if he replace walcott.
Do people honestly think that this Koscielny character is the answer to our defensive frailties?? Come on people……
A – I was just about to say I think he’s played a lot of games at left back but couldn’t find anything to back me up!!
Rohan
A colleague of mine says Koscielny is a very good player. Apparantley very quick, and a vermaelen like leap, strong tackler etc.
Id like him as a squad option, not convinced hes the man to partner TV.
How tall is he gambon ? I swear there’s been conflicting reports of his size, hope we sign him up, so we can have that French grit and passion in our team again and get back to winning things.
http://www.chelsea-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/joeys_a_gooner_530241/index.shtml
nothing new but surprised to see that on a chav site!!
Keyser
Ive read 6.1, and he looks that, he definately isnt short, or a rodney trotter like beanpole.
Hart
Richards Pepe Vermaelen Clichy
Song
Gourcuff Nasri
Cole V.Persie Arshavin
Subs
Koscienly
Djourou
Rosicky
Chamakh
Walcott
Diaby
Bendtner
RTZ
Probably best to have a keeper on the bench!
6’1 acccording to wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurent_Koscielny
great post Pedro, and cracked me up with the similes
so apparently something secretive being cooked up by Wenger for next week …
As long as he’s more imposing then Vermaelen so he can deal with the bigger of the centre-forwards he shouldn’t be too bad.
Chamakh, Van Persie, Bendtner, Diaby, Song, Djourou, thats quite a lot of sizeful players for corners and set pieces.
Vito Mannone would be my back up goalkeeper
I think we should go all out and Sign the The Undertaker as defensive coach, we could have him as mascot aswell, we should definetly go for a more WWF theme before kick-off.
I think he’d be perfect as mascot, we could have him carry off Gunnersauraus in a casket after he’d applied the tombstone piledriver, all on his debut, he could powerslam people we didn’t like..
cheszney would be mine …
Micah Richards right back?!
Why would we get someone in who’s nowhere near as good as Eboue or Sagna?!
Keyser we should sign the Great Khali and the Boogeyman, that will scare everyone.
Coz hes English
The Undertaker is far more scary than the Bogeyman and has greater mobility than the Great Khali.
We need to do this properly or it’ll look childish and silly.
Why’s that matter RT?!
Richards should be nowhere near our team, he isn’t good enough, and home grown thing doesn’t matter to us really
Rohan
We don’t want another Vermy.
We want a tempered lad with his head straight, who can read the game and cover. That way Vermy can be the extravagant, attacking and tackling defender he is with some good cover.
I heard a rumour we were in talks with Papa Shango & Virgil, but we cant agree wages.
Another thing, I spoke with some friends of mine who are United fans, and one of them told me that they just barely meet the new 25 over 21 rule that will be introduced next season. So in order for them to buy a Gerrard, Gourcuff, JC or the like they have to sell, and I’m pretty sure they won’t sell any of their attacking midfielders over 21, so they’re pretty much off the list.
I think that soll will leave and that koscienly is only a back-up, then we will sign zapata or something.
People, i don’t think that the cole rumour is rubbish.
I really think he will be an arsenal player. And i think that he has signed a contract at arsenal but it’s not official yet, but DDM said that tomorrow is the day there could be something what makes us happy.
THIG
Vermy is more of a sweeper with pace. We need a dominant vidic like defender.
Wenger always insists on buying youngsters, and talks about making stars, so why doesn’t he sign these
Pato
Aguero
Bojan
Drogba (Wenger said he could of)
C.Ronaldo (Same as above)
Torres
Virgil ? That’s just a waste, but Papa Shango, I’m sure could offer great medical advice and the sychronised dancing with Ebway would be awesome.
gotya gambon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW_9KiTuDtg
lol.
THIG there’s no over 25 thing – it’s homegrown, and both gerrard and joe cole are homegrown players so that would be a reason they WOULD sign them, not wouldn’t….
How great would that be, on a cold winters night, home game to Blackburn, lights go out, bells toll, and then the Undertaker and Papa Shango are standing over Sam Allardyce’s mortified body.
sorry i meant over 21 thing, not over 25.
Utd are fine for that, they need 8 homegrown players – Brown, Ferdinand, Scholes, Giggs, Rooney, Carrick, Evans, Neville
keyser- I reckon Keown would fit in there some where as well!!
A
Alright, I thought you could have a maximum of 25 players over 21 in your squad aswell as the eight homegrown rule.
Patrice could be Paul Bearer.
Almunia needs an edge about him, so Doink, Arshavin could be Dink.
Keown, hmmm..
Ah yeah you do THIG, perhaps I misunderstood.
Yeah 25 players over 21, are utd really stuggling just in terms of numbers?! Hadn’t counted up squads like that, just counted up home grown before.
A
If you think of it, you will realize that just with the first team and reserves etc the numbers tend to add up.
United certainly don’t have any problems with their homegrowns, but apparently they most sell an over 21 to buy one according to my friend.
Yeah keyser
Maybe when they announce the team at the emirates, it could go something like;
“Number 1, weighing in at 212lbs, Manuel ‘The Clown’ Moooonia!…….Number 8, Weighing 443 lbs, Samir ‘Tugboat’ NAAAAASSSSSRRRRRIIIIIIII”
Yeah I guess so THIG,
looking at their squad,
VDS
Kuz
Brown
Neville
Evra
Ferdinand
Vidic
O’Shea
Evans
Fletcher
Scholes
Gibson
Carrick
Anderson
Giggs
Valencia
Nani
Park
Obertan?
Rooney
Berbatov
Owen
Those are what I can count as over 21, so three spaces I guess, already signed Hernandez?
They don’t have much space to work with….
Obertan looks like Silvestres son
A
KEEPERS
Edwin van der Sar 70-10-29
Tomasz Kuszczak 82-03-23
Ben Amos 90-04-10
DEFENDERS
Gary Neville 75-02-18
Rio Ferdinand 78-11-07
Wes Brown 79-10-13
Nemanja Vidic 81-10-21
Fabio Da Silva 90-07-09
Rafael Da Silva 90-07-09
John Oshea 81-04-30
Jonathan Evans 88-01-02
Ritchie De Laet 88-11-28
Corry Evans 90-07-30
Craig Cathcart 89-02-06
Chris Smalling 89-11-22
MIDFIELDERS
Owen Hargreaves 81-01-20
ANDERSON Luis Oliveira 88-04-13
Ryan Giggs 73-11-29
Ji-Sung Park 81-02-25
Zoran Tosic 87-04-28
Michael Carrick 81-07-28
Luis NANI Cunha 86-11-17
Paul Scholes 74-11-16
Darren Fletcher 84-02-01
Antonio Valencia 85-08-04
Gabriel Obertan 89-02-26
Darron Gibson 87-10-25
Tom Cleverley 89-08-12
David Gray 88-05-04
ATTACKERS
Michael Owen 79-12-14
Dimitar Berbatov 81-01-30
Wayne Rooney 85-10-24
Daniel Welbeck 90-11-26
Federico Macheda 91-08-22
Mame Biram Diouf 87-12-17
Javier Hernandez 88-06-01
25-26 players who will be over 21 by next season
Chelsea
Cech
Hilario
Turnbull
Ivanovic
Bosingwa
Ferreira
Belletti
Cole
Zhirkov
Terry
Alex
Carvalho
Mikel
Essien
Ballack
Lampard
Deco
Malouda
Kalou
Drogba
Anelka
That’s 21, their squad really is small, they’re so lucky with injuries in terms of the numbers they get!
Yeah THIG but the proper reserves won’t matter or be included, so I make it 22.
We are
Almunia
Fabianski
Mannone
Sagna
Eboue
Clichy
Sol?
Vermy
JD
Song
Denilson
Cesc
Nasri
Diaby
Rosicky
Theo
Arshavin
Bendtner
Chamakh
Van Persie
Eduardo
Vela
22 as well
By comparison;
KEEPERS
Manuel Almunia 77-05-19
Lukasz Fabianski 85-04-18
Vito Mannone 88-03-02
DEFENDERS
Bacary Sagna 83-02-14
Thomas Vermaelen 85-11-14
Phillipe Senderos 85-02-14
William Gallas 77-08-17
Mikael Silvestre 77-08-09
Johan Djourou 87-01-18
Gael Clichy 85-07-26
Kieran Gibbs 89-09-26
Armand Traore 89-10-08
Sol Campbell 74-09-18
MIDFIELDERS
Abou Diaby 86-05-11
Francesc Fábregas 87-05-04
Tomas Rosicky 80-10-04
Samir Nasri 87-06-26
Neves Denilson 88-02-16
Aaron Ramsey 90-12-26
Alexandre Song 87-09-09
Jack Wilshere 92-01-01
Andrey Arshavin 81-05-29
Emmanuel Eboué 83-06-04
ATTACKERS
Eduardo da Silva 83-02-25
Robin van Persie 83-08-06
Carlos Vela 89-03-01
Theo Walcott 89-03-16
Marouane Chamakh 84-01-10
Nicklas Bendtner 88-01-16
We’re in the same situation, having 25 players over 21 in the squad.
The big difference for us though is that we have a good lot of dead wood that can be shipped out.
A
I’m just counting our potential player material. So give or take a couple of players of course!
THIG I make us 22, Silvestre and Senderos are gone, and I didn’t count Traore actually, so maybe 23
I think Walcott, Gibbs & Vela are all under 21 by the rules.
Afternoon fuckers…any good arsenal news?
Randall, gilbert, barazite will be over priced with the new role
And i thibk it could bring some cash to the arsenal
Along with the rest of the failures
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_6128514,00.html
Read this. He said “cole is an interested target but do i have enough in this position?’ we shall see.
Will one leave or will he bring walcott to the middle and play a 4-4-2 or something. Also the silence from wenger is aming me happy, he is busy with tranfers i think.
Surely Vela wouldnt count because although he was technically an arsenal player he wasnt training under an english club for 3 years before his 21st birthday.
If hes gonna go 4-4-2 Theo is the last player he would put upfront.
Afternoon Stu
Stu
He would count as U21, not Homegrown.
Afternoon Gooby..
Gambon, very much agreed. If we go back to a 4-4-2, which wont happen, then Theo would definately be behind VP, Chamakh, Bendtner, Vela and Eduardo for a spot in the front 2.
And wenger also said that he was going to sign some english players, so…?? Two things that can make clear the cole signing.
When did he say he was going to sign english players dutchman?
Gooby Gilbert is leaving on a free.
Randall will never be an arsenal player, but i really don’t know what’s going on with barazite. He could go somewhere like fulham and be pretty useful, but doubt he’ll make it with us. Always liked him but never had a look in – i’d imagine there would be something behind the scenes. Derby fans didn’t like his attitude I remember
Benitez sacked.
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/liverpool-fc-statement-1
on a more realistic approach!!
____________gk___________
sagna___cb____tv5___clichy
__________song___________
____fabregas___nasri_____
rvp_____chamakh___arshavin
Dutchman, that’s over a month old, interesting to think that he thinks Denilson is mucg improved this season. He’s blind then right?
Who are the dippers gonna get as manager now? Its not like they can afford a good one or even give money to a shite one.
gambon u21 players can still count as home grown, and be included in the 25 if you want them to be.
Stu he didn’t, he said that it may be better to buy from the Domestic market now, with the Euro and rich European clubs raising the price of buying abroad.
Not English players as such
I’d guess they go domestic manager and not foreign… but one never knows.
Denilson, Diaby and Song are anything but young. 22,24 and 22. Youth is not an excuse for them anymore. Especially as they all have about 100 appearances each…maybe even more.
Stu – Exactly, which is why Bentdner should shut the fuck up and play right ?
Dont get what you mean Keyser but i’ll agree for the sake of it.
Because you make the same excuses for players you like or should I say have a crush on.
Has Benitez officially gone ? They need a high profile manager now, or players like Torres and Gerrard are going to want to move.
Stu just because they’ve played doesn’t mean age doesn’t matter anymore! 22 is still young even if you’ve played a fair bit, and Diaby’s development was very much stunted early on, so he will still improve a hell of a lot.
Their age is a reason not to write them off, but not an excuse if they’re not good enough and first team players
Whatever Keyser. You’re just annoyed because you have no favourite players. Also, i rarely if ever cite youth as an excuse or defence of Bendtner anymore. I did in the past, when he WAS young, but not now.
It’s not soo much that their young and have played soo many games together, it’s that they’re all beinmg asked to improve alongside each other, I’d say.
If Bendtner was being fed balls by Bergkamp, or Denilson/ Diaby or Song had Vieira alongside them, they’d improve a whole lot quicker than they have.
At the same time you can’t go on like their shite, because they’re obviously not or we’d have ended up a lot further down the table than we have done, they’ve done well, consdering how many players we’ve had out over the past couple of season, to drag us up into 4th and 3rd.
A
My point is Vela for example doesnt need to be included. You can have unlimited U21s so may aswell count him as that.
Thats basically what i mean A. Any mistakes or such cant be blamed on their age because they are a good age now and have decent experience.
I agree Keyser, or if they were playing at Bolton, or Fulham, or even Villa they’d be being praised as quality players we should be signing, but the level of expectation and comparison with ex superstars doesn’t help them at all
Stu – No, it’s because you’ve gone back to being Stuvid. Someone who’s just as irrational as David but the polar opposite.
My favourtie players were/are, Van Persie, Toure and Ebway, Vermaelen’s cool and Eduardo, I like all of them really.
Again…whatever.
My favorite player is Bendtner. End of!
Stuvid – Exactly.
And im clearly not irrational, whether David is irrational is irelevant. I chose to focus on the positive with some players, im not unaware of them.
*unaware of the negatives that is,
Good point made by Gunnerblog. Even if Fab4 stays, he may be stripped of the captaincy.
Cesc playing for spain
Fabregas wasnt captain material in the first place. IMO he was partly given the armband for the same reason a Henry and Gallas were given it..to keep them happy/content, whichever word you prefer.
He should be stripped of the captaincy if he stays because he cant be fully committed if he has shown interest in a move.
Problem is that we have no other players who are stand out captains. Vermaelen and VP are really the only ones you could see it being given too.
1. Benetez officially sacked. Lets hope they don’t get someone like Rijkaard to steady the ship.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/article?contentId=1956987
2. Would someone shut PHW ups NOW!
‘Speaking to the Daily Star, he said: “We have been consistent in stating that Cesc is not for sale. We rejected Barcelona’s bid and would rather they did not make another one.”
His inferiority complex is infuriating.
3. Cesc may lose the captaincy if he stays.
RVP should be the captain
Vermy the vice captain
We need gooners to wear the ambrand
GIVE CAPTAINCY TO BIG ALMUNIA he never talks with other clubs…..LOL JOKES give it the Vermaelen
He’s a good guy 
I see that cole has said tha he is not going to arsenal and he will sign new contract with the chavs.
zeus i don’t understand inferiority complex?!
he’s been an ass with comments, what what you’ve quoted there is totally understandable, and what you’d expect anyone to say….
The Korean keeper’s a bit of a chubster.
Just so you know the 89 million figure quoted by Graham Hunter was actually in Euros not in Pounds.
So actually our asking price is closer to £74,000,000, I’d still take that tbh.
The Letter… there’s no euro key on my keyboard.
Zeus, i dont know what you see wrong with that PHW comment. I wouldnt have worded it quite like that but its a good comment, especially compared to some of his others.
I’am joking, i read it on football-rumour.co.uk but that’s a BULLSHITT SITE!!! Everyone is saying something else, also they see the goal.com rumour about cesc buying out his contract as realistic. They are crazy!! Fab will never buy out arsenals contract.NEVER!! I know that for sure.
There is a euro key on my laptop but whenever i try to use it all i get is $. Its just there on the 4 button laughing at me…fucking cunt!
Stu
Maybe we should swap keyboards ! I always need the EURO key but haven’t got one and I have a £ key but rarely use it !
If i have it right than this will be out new team.
I see that mourinho wants sagna, let him go and we buy VDW
GK(don’t know)
sagna/VDW-djourou-vermaelen-clichy
song-diakhete
gourcuff
cole-RvP-arshavin
Pedro, press the alt key and you get a €
yeah stu i don’t get it at all!
For me it seems like “Gooner syndrome” that seems to have been adopted from the Daily Mail – take something completely normal and treat it as ridiculous, outrage etc etc
dutchman since when does diakhete play dm?!
I would keep Cesc as the captain, all he said to Wenger is he wants to win trophies and project youth isn’t working, he’s right and hopefully his stance will jolt Wenger into action.
If Wenger asks him for one more year then blows our transfer budget on giving Cesc a payrise I’ll rip him apart on here.
I’m more pissed with Barca offering us a ridiculous £30+mil for a player of Cesc’s quality, Gazidas should counter with a £30+mil bid for Messi, just to see what they would say about such a derisory offer.
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Geoff that’s not what he said – what he said is that he wants to go home to Barca, nowt to do with winning trophies or telling Wenger that project youth isn’t working!
You mean all you think he said was that, thats quality Geoff, are you trying to be the Alistair Campbell of the footballing blogosphere.
G€off you l€g€nd!
It definately has something to do with wanting to win a trophy A.
DO you think he would want to leave for Barca if they were winning fuck all too?
No Stu, I don’t, but if we were winning things I think he’d still want to go there.
If they were just winning trophies I don’t think he’d want to leave for barca either, but as they’re breaking records, and being hailed as the best club side in Spanish history, he would always want to be part of it
I doubt it A. ANd its not like he can break many other records by joining them now. They have already won everything possible in a season so the best he could hope for is equaling a record..which wont happen now that Mourinho is at Real.
Poor Rafa
Yeah poor Rafa, He only got £6m to leave liverpool. God bless his soul.. fat ponce.
Cesc wants to go home aye?
Why would that be all of a sudden he wants to go home?
You sure it has nothing to do with the fact that Barca are winning trophies and Arsenal are not?
Pretty silly to assume it has nothing to do with that.
Oh wait..thats Nasri not Rafa…
Its all speculation.
none of us have any idea of what Cesc said to Arsene.
Personally I think it was for a number of reasons,
Not just because he wants to go home
and
Not just because he wants to win trophies
and
Not just because Project Youth has failed.
It is probably a bit of all 3 and others.
And again, none of us have any idea of whether or not Cesc would want to stay if he had WC players alongside him and if we were winning things. I am sure it would be a harder decision though.
Yeah, most of it is speculation, but we do know certain things, he’s Spanish, he was born in Spain, he loves his family, most of whom were born/ and live in Spain to, I think his girlfriend is Spanish, he grew up in Catalunia, he went through Barcelona’s Academy, most of the present team there he either played with when he was at the club or has become friends with during his time in the National side.
He’s always said he wants to go back at some point, considering he’s spent 7 years here, that points probably going to come sooner than ever.
How bout Cesc wants to leave because he’s not happy and couldve played with spanish mates like Alonso and Villa but Arsene stuck with Song and Denilson and will continue to until they either to decide to do a Senderos or magically become class.
Is Joe Cole enought to convince Cesc to stay?
Fack knows.
Cesc has been here longer than he was at Barca so technically he is more ours than theirs.
How bout RVP….doesnt RVP want to go home?
I dunno, he doesn’t seem to tell us every year about how he wants to, so maybe London’s home now ?!
@Pedro – Is it a full moon? I actually agree with your entire post… for once!
Btw – If Barca is Megan Fox, then who is Arsenal?…
Possibly…both his kids are English…but the fact remains that why now?
Surely Cesc wouldve wanted to go when Barca was winning the treble?
It makes no sense.
Stu, you’re welcome mate!
Keyser, ha, ha, yes, you’re right!
Pat I know that’s what Cesc told him, trust me.
Cesc wanting to go if confirmation that project youth has failed because it was started because of him and built around him, Cesc going is saying to Wenger he’s had enough with not winning.
He has always said he’ll go back, but last season he accused Barca of being disrespectful, so he wasn’t planning on going anytime soon, he’s now saying he wants to go because he can see that Wenger’s intransigence in the market is costing us, and of course him.
Im glad Cesc did what he did. Give Arsene and the board a reality check.
This money making hoard of shite has got to stop at some point and give the young man some proper help.
So why did Cesc come in the 1st place.
I agree with your post Keyser,
But likewise you could also add
He is ambitious and has won nothing in 5 years, he wants to play alongside the very best yet makes do with a fair bit of chaff, and he sees no end to it. And all his mates have left, Flam, Hleb, Senderos, Merida!!! He is running out of things to stay for.
Like I say, I think it is the whole package of what Barca can offer him including
The team he supported his entire life
Success
Trophies
And nigh on an entire squad full of WC players
I hope it is Geoff, as hopefully that is the smack in the chops that Wenger needed.
If this happens, and I think it will eventually, then Project Youth is surely dead. or at least it should be.
Arsenal
Add another 10m to the price
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6189757,00.html
Joe Cole is quality, but we have enough quality on the treatment table already.
Also Pedro, let me know if you need some good recommendations for places in Amsterdam. i know a few.
The idea Project Youth is some sort of Mike Myers Evil incarnation is bollocks really, you want players who have some sense of loyalty, that will want to stick around for years and give their all for the cause, then why not bring them up through the Academy, if we bring through even 2-3 players from our Acadaemy we’re doing well.
If they’re English than all the better, as long as they aren’t the sort of complete twats we see in the National side today. Why wouldn’t you want to see players like Ramsey, Gibbs and Wilshire make it ?!
Players like Fabregas, Song, Diaby, Van Persie, Bendtner are stop gaps until we can have some sort of stream coming through the Academy and even then all of them want us to do well.
All the big clubs do it, If we’re aiming to be a part of some of the biggest most illustrious clubs in history why not actually take a look at how they’ve achieved the success they have.
PattheGooner – I think that bodes well for us, thats the new president’s man isn’t it ? He’s just getting a dig in before the new president takes over.
Vela scores against Italy, anyone see it??
I dont think Project youth is evil
The problem is that we got the balance wrong and continue to do so.
Loyalty can only go so far, if you are a great player, then you want success and medals, and if the club are not delivering it, then players will move on…well at least the best players will.
just saw it, good finish with his right foot
Keyser
Im pretty sure we want Ramsey, Wilshere and Gibbs to make it.
Much in the same way we wanted Cygan, A.Cole and Matthew Connolly, Ryan Smith etc etc to make it.
Vela just scored for Mexico against Italy , Fabianski kept a clean sheet for poland yesterday and denilson tried something called “closing the opposition down” …a good day to be a gooner
Sorry I meant to say Justin Hoyte not Cygan…
And i remember fuming vehemently when Wenger played Hoyte against United in the Fa cup despite the fact that he was a poor footballer.
We throw away games for the shite players that will never make it in the end.
So lets not act like Project Youth just started yesterday with some “exciting” prospects.
PattheGooner – It’s not something we’re going to follow until the end of time, it’s something that was supposed to keep us competitive over the short term while we dealt with the debt we incurred.
..and in those few years we’ve been extremely unlucky at the same time, we haven’t fallen away like Liverpool, we just haven’t hit the heights that we could’ve.
The best players create their own success, lets not pretend that all players care about is medals and success, money plays a huge part nowadays, yeah the last few years haven’t been great, but I’m more than happy with them if it allows us to be even more comeptitive in the future.
Wenger got the Academy going 10 years ago, it’s starting to produce the sort of quality we’ve wanted, he tried to supplement it with youth from across the World, it hasn’t worked out as well as it could’ve but then thats life.
We’ve had one player make the first team of the quality we want, Ashley Cole, thats in howver many years, the Premiership is supposedly even tougher and more competitive now and if we get 2-3, even 4 players coming through into the side we’re doing very well.
David – No-one’s acting dude, playing United away at Old Trafford was always going to be tough, the idea we throw games away is rubbish aswell.
Today’s game is about squad’s, some teams have better squads than other, you have to manage yours as best as you can and certain games take priority.
I remember someone mentioning Inter’s squad as the sort of squad we should have, one of quality and not quantity, they’ve got something like 30 players out on loan, these things matter.
theres no room for sentimentality in football. its a results based business and if players arent good enough theres no point persisting with them. get rid ASAP and give somebody else a go
Agree Money is part of it.
I think we would both agree that in this case, Cesc is not leaving for Money.
Nope, it is players like Adebayor that leave for money!!!!
I am not against the academy, it is the balance I dont like. And Sorry you cant go along the line of keeping us competitive as that is simply not what the club are telling us and charging us for.
I am delighted with our academy, and think it is probably the best in the PL and one of the best in the World. I agree with you that we will see more and more players breaking through from it in the coming years.
But we are not skint, we could been a bit more ambitous without breaking the bank and who knows, we might just have won something.
We dont throw games, that is the wrong word. I genuinely believe that Arsene thinks he can win every game with the team that he puts out.
However we definately dont put out teams with very good odds of winning certain games.
has wenger been sacked yet??????????????????????
PattheGooner – Yeah, I’ve said we’ve been too cautious in the past, at the same time I can see why they’re doing it, I’ve never said we’ve had no money, but can’t understand why people say ‘We’ve got money’ we should just spend it.
It’s how much we have, thats the subject if we’re not skint, then I doubt we’ve got the most money in European football and at the end of the day we’re competing with some of the elite clubs in world football now.
You’ve got the 25 man squad rule now and I think Uefa are bringing through other rules so clubs can’t spend beyond their means as they used to, that should help.
If he likes his catalonia so much, why did he come to Arsenal at 17.
He wore an Arsenal shirt but never had the team in his heart.
Fuck off dude!….You are just a polished form of Barndoor
to be fair hes been here 7 years and hes given us a lot – everyone knew he was gonna leave at some stage its not a surprise. its just a matter of squeezing every last penny out of the deal
when cesc leaves wenger should go aswell.
Keyser the ruling excuse only came in this season so thats rubbish.
You cant use that to justify the last 5 years.
Also Utd away is tough thats why you play your best players.
Cesc is not English…and you somehow suggesting that you need to be English to show sustained loyalty to a club is absolute bollocks.
All the best players want to win End off.
Im guessing Steven Gerrard is half Spanish thats why he wants out to Madrid?
Keyser, the academy’s been going for years now, 12 under Wenger. Ashley Cole was from George Graham’s time, not Wenger, and I believe Wenger tried to sell him to Palace.
I don’t mind the odd youth playing in the side, but he has gone nuts, we had Senderos in the team for 4 years, for what? Cesc was in there years before he got good enough, same with Song, Denilson, Diaby, Hoyte and Clichy.
Having one or two in there is fine, having as many as we have is lunacy, even when the Mancs did it, half the team was tried and tested.
Had even this year he bought a few good ones, we could have won the league and what they cost would have been paid for in prize money, but the real cost is Cesc, whatever happens he has sent his boss a message, no more.
David – What’s rubbish and absolute bollocks ? You just want an argument now like with the Chamkah and his nationality thing.
The season is long, and some games mean more than others, if some players aren’t fully fit, you don’t risk them for games that aren’t as important as others.
United themselves got knocked out by Portsmouth, but I bet if that mean’t they got a better edge going into games that won them the title and the Champions League, they’re happier with that.
In the last 5 years it hasn’t been how little we’ve spent thats been most isgnificant, but how much other teams have spent in comparison, so any ruling that tries to restrain the silly spending we’ve seen over the last few years will benefit us.
I’m not saying you have to be English, I’m saying it seems to help if you’re born in the country, obviously it’ll vary on how well off you are in that country and what sort of life you lead, but it helps.
I don’t know why you’ve mentioned Gerrard ? How many English players regularly go overseas ?!
Chamakh was born in France. He’s french.
Where’s the argument?
And no one takes any notice of the rules, the chavs got told they were banned from buying for 18 months, then they appealed, and got away with it.
All those rules are going to get got around.
agree with that geoff. i said that on a different forum – lads were beside themselves with excitement over these new rules – thinking wed be the only team left standing in the end and then wed dominate. HA! theres ways around everything and when you have abramovics money then theres no such thing as rules
Geoff – We didn’t finish in the bottom half of the table, fuck that we didn’t even finish out of the top 4, if us being prudent over the short term, allows us to be more compeitive in the future, than I’m all for it.
Because as I’m sure you know buying any of the players you asked for would simply have given us, maybe, a better chance, not a gurantee, but a better chance at winning things, because there are guarantees in football or in life.
At the end of the day it’s about risk, you can argue we could’ve taken a bigger one, but it’s just your opinion, just like I have mine.
geoff m8 any more news on the cole rumours????/
David – Though he plays for Morroco, Internationally, glad we cleared that up.
Vela scores?With the right foot? Typical. No pressure and not for Arsenal and he does that. Bet you he does little at the WC.
David chamakh is a Morrocan, what does it matter if he was born in France?
rio mavuba was born on a boat what does it make him?
How many top English talents are there Keyser?
If there were many just oozing class im sure there would be more overseas.
Because the best players want to play for the best clubs. Simple As.
As Arsenal continue to win nothing our best players will continue to move on to better clubs.
As it stands your best player for England is the only decent striker in the squad.
God knows who the second best player is in a team filled to the brim of absolute cunts…
The fact still remains that Gerrald wants out to Madrid and the fact that he’s leaving his boyhood club to greener pastures solidifies the argument.
Goobes.
He’s Morocan by choice.
David – Gerrard’s 30 now, he’s been there his whole career and he hasn’t even left yet, I’m guessing he’s been pretty loyal to Liverpool.
his parents are morrocan so is he.
higuain is born in France, he is not french
So why would he want to leave now as opposed to last season or the season before that?
Do you think it has anything to do with just missing out on the PL last season or the fact that they finished 7th? Or is he half spanish?
Italy will be embarassing at this WC, pants in attack and defence
David – He’s been linked with moves away from Anfield pretty much his whole career, it hasn’t suddenly happened this year. He hasn’t even left yet.
Italy will be embarassing at this WC, rubbish in attack and defence
Really? Where was he linked to?
I doubt Gerrard was linked with a move anywhere when he won the CL or when he just missed out in the EPL
Gooby
Mesut Ozil has turkish parents yet he plays for Germany.
Its by choice.
Arrogant cunts
http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2010/06/03/1957283/barcelona-vice-presidential-candidate-it-should-be-so-easy
David
i realised this is unnecessary debat mate
he is an arsenal player to me nothing more!
David even if Chamakh made the choice and it wasn’t a culture thing do you think he’s not good enough for France?
English players rarely leave England, that’s a fact.
The Cesc saga is very funny, no-one wants to miss out on the action. From every journalist to ex-player. Everyone wants to comment on the comments and non-comments made by the 3 parties involved.
And Spanish players rarely leave spain, Italians? Ditto.
Germans….the list continues.
We’re not talking bout nationality here.
We’re talking bout the top talent.
And regardless of nationality the top talents want to play in the top clubs.
How many dutch players play in the dutch league?
Do they love their country any less?
Yes but there’s a difference between playing for a side that’s nothing in Europe and one going through a rough patch. I’m sure if we become just another top half team we’ll attract a different class of players but surely this isn’t the case right now> Moreover most players would think the reason for the financial strain are obvious and temporary.
We are still doing things on the cheap.
Joe Cole —- Free.
Chamakh —–Free.
What suggests that the financial restraints are temporary?
Assuming there were any financial restraints at all
Getting good players for free isn’t really a bad thing is it? Sol was free.
We’ll always be prudent, at least as long as we a have a board. But we’ll have a squad big enough to last the season and good enough to compete.
Well said Geoff.
Wenger puts the development of his babies before the club, which is professional negligence.
Yeah it’s shocking the way he’s treated Fabregas, thats a fucking laugh and a half.
Has Ian Wright turned up..
Thats an agreable statement.
But it doesnt answer the question.
What makes you think the financial constraints are temporary?
You think if we parted with 5m -6m for Chamakh in January it wouldve made much of a difference?
Mesut Ozil is absolute Class.
David – You could argue it either way though and thats the point, if we’d spent 5-6 million on Chamkah in January can you say without doubt that would have been enough ?!
One can make a case for it Keyser.
Fabregas has been injured when we needed him most.
As opposed to losing him on a free?
Bordeaux wouldve been mad not to accept it.
No, David to win the title or to lift the Champions League ?
Its also laughable that Wenger can sacrifice fabregas in a supposed “must win” against Aston Villa but Van Piersie warms the bench against Spurs.
Ok…let me put it another way….
Is it financial constraints? Or is it our obsession with doing things on the cheap?
Yaya toure has agreed a deal, BUT WITH WHO??????????????
HES GOIN 2 MAN CITY
Who else is watching Ozil of germany strut his stuff against Boznia? He is really good! Why, we have two players that can replace Cesc: Gorcuff and Ozil!
I reckon hes going Chelsea.
Great point Geoff
Ashley Cole is a Graham Product
David it’s a question no-one here can answer. Evidence points another way though. A £150m investment hardly goes amiss does it?
If I was Wenger and obsessed with some crazy policy, I’d have implemented it straight away. We were 12th under Rioch, expectation must’ve been lower. Competition was lesser as well.
Toure and Essien in the same midfield?
God help us all
Ashley Cole was 13/14 when Graham left.
Yaya Toure closer to Manchester City switch as midfielder’s agent demands talks with Barcelona
Yaya Toure’s agent is set for showdown talks with Barcelona amid reports that the player has all but agreed a move to Manchester City.
Chelsea were thought to be the midfielder’s preferred destination, but radio reports in Catalonia say the Ivory Coast international will instead team up with his brother Kolo at Eastlands if the clubs can agree a fee.
City are believed to be prepared to offer a better salary than Chelsea, who are trying to keep wages under control in their bid to become financially self sufficient.
Arsenal were also interested and would have considered a part-exchange as part of Barcelona’s plan to sign Cesc Fabregas, but the Barca outcast is cool on going to the Emirates Stadium. Manchester United have also been linked.
Pep Guardiola does not want to lose the midfielder, but cannot guarantee him first-team football and will reluctantly sanction his sale for the right price.
Toure’s agent Dimitri Selcuk is due at the Nou Camp for talks with technical secretary Txiki Begiristain before the weekend to thrash out a price which the Spanish champions would find acceptable.
City boss Roberto Mancini has been keen to sign a holding midfielder since the winter, when bids for Real Madrid’s Fernando Gago and Parma’s McDonald Mariga failed.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1283750/Yaya-Toure-close-Manchester-City-switch-agent-demands-Barcelona-talks.html?ITO=1490#ixzz0pp5rPSq8
Well Mayank
As they say the evidence is in the pudding.
Wenger didnt start off with a crazy policy in Monaco either.
Sorry 5th under Rioch, but had fallen pretty low under Graham.
.
will Essien come back the same player though his been nearly as injury prone as rosicky in the last couple of years!!
David, didnt Wenger get sacked 4 starting a youth policy at Monaco which failed
David – What are you on about ? What sort of pudding is it ?!
What do people know of what went on at Monaco ?!
RTZ
Yep, he did project youth over there, but they wised up.
The Monaco thing is one that confuses me does any one has confirmed details about the situation there. Or is it just a stick that everyone uses to beat Wenger with.
What are the chances of Joe Cole going to Liverpool
Most people don’t seem to have a clue, gambon might know something, he usually brings it up ?!
So Wenger is just a man who likes to first razzle dazzle the fans into thinking they have the best team in the world and then suck the life out of them? You’re giving Wenger too much credit if you think he can really control the fate of a team to that extent.
RTZ
Theres more chance of Jaguar starting a Diaby fan club.
Ericknilson Francisco (Manchester United) says…
Manchester United are ready to splash out a £25 million bid for Theo Walcott and a £30 million bid for David Silva, that will pump up the spuad and next season we will be champions of england once again!
http://www.skysports.com/football/transfers/your-rumours/0,26732,16620,00.html
LOL IF THIS IS TRUE – £25 MILLION 4 WALCOTT
Stick to beat Wenger with?
LOL.
Wow 5th and 12th is some distance Mayank.
Your argument loses some credibility. I was starting to think Wenger was really the shinning light in our darkest era….taking us from 12th to 2nd…is much different from taking us from 5th to 2nd.
Why was Wenger sacked then?
Mayank
I would say he tries to win things initially, but once he feels secure & unsackable he cant help trying his mental project.
A bit like frankenstein. If you let your room out to him he would probably be a great lodger for a few years, but you know sooner or later he’ll be exhuming bodies.
[Video] Carlos Vela’s goal vs Italy Today
http://arsenalaction.wordpress.com/2010/06/03/video-carlos-velas-goal-vs-italy/
can’t see joe cole going to liverpool apart from the fact they’re in the shiter i think he’d sooner stay in london if theres a offer on the table
Apparently Man U want 2 sign Walcott 4 £25 million
We were 12th a few years ago under Graham, in the PL’s first year.
The point is not if I know why he left Monaco but if the people who mention it do…
Jim Jones (Arsenal) says…
Just seen Steven Taylor at Arsenal Training ground and he is completing a deal worth about £6 million. Medical tomorrow
No they dont.
We also did the cup double that year Mayank.
Yaya to City? They’v already got Boateng as CB…to add to their squad…they are going to really threaten the top imo…if Mancini can get his act 2gether
Jim Jones??? didn’t he die in an organised massacre in s.america, something to do with an unwanted mobile phone contract wasn’t it?
Whatever the reason Mayank
The facts are clear
Despite the fact that he was succesful at Monaco and Arsenal. This is not the first time he has embarked on a project youth before.
He has said it many many times about his policy and beliefs and sees himself as a Johan Cryuff type of manager.
who the fuck is jim jones, and steven taylor?
bollocks to that
Who’s jim jones when he’s at home lol!!
KM, Man City are just gonna buy for the sake of it.
Dont you mean jimmy jones kin hell!!
Gambon, if you were following Arsenal at the end of Graham’s era where we’d finished below spuds, Wimbeldon et al. Had your manager sacked for a scam and with no real hope of silverware you’d accept a ‘project youth’ that guaranteed 3rd-4th? Never mind the league was way weaker then and we’d be up higher.
Juventus star Giorgio Chiellini is rumoured to be unhappy with his current deal sparking speculation that he could move to Arsenal
Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has been linked in the past but would face competition for the signature of the 25 -year-old versatile Italian defender with Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger also thought to be keen and , as ever, Manchester City are also linked. The Juventus star is hoping to negotiate a new bumper contract at Juve and he will be hoping an eye catching World Cup with Italy will lead to a new deal or possibly a lucrative move.
http://www.eatsleepsport.com/arsenal/juve-ace-linked-to-gunners-1066997.html
There will be a signing announced tommorow, so…??
Did someone Mention Jim Jones?
And Everton won the FA cup the season we finished 12th.
Dutchman, wat if wenger announces he has resigned silvestre
if you wanna be the best,
if you wanna beat the rest
oh oh oh speculation’s what you need!
anyone who remembers watching Liam Brady must remember that one!
Didnt DDM say we were signing someone on Friday??
Mayank
We arent guaranteed 3rd or 4th, we are being caught by those behind us.
In 1993 we had no money whatsoever, now we have £130m in the bank, theres a big difference.
Back then we spent all the money we had on players, now we dont spend a penny.
Tony Adams even considered moving from Arsenal at that point!
That’s all for tonight from me, catch you all later.
Worth noting that both times he failed and the fact that Fabregas wants out is a strong indication that its failing as well too.
Taylor’s that defender from newcastle right?
Yeah 78692. That’s right.But taylor?? Is he fourth choice or what.
Anyone remember Christina and Melanie from Fun House?
gambon – At least keep going with the observations, why stop there.
We’ve always had high attendances. Moreover, you’d rather we spent ourselves dry and finished between 5th to 10th than what has gone down in the past 5 season. Especially knowing the reason as to why it’s gone that way?
LOL WATCH THIS
David – i have lost count of the number of times Cesc has publicly committed his future to Arsenal. I don’t recall him once saying anything indicating he wants out. What are you on about?
Choy yes.
WATCH THE RONALDO VIDEO, he looks confused, LOL
I thought wenger left monaco due to match fixing scandals in the league?
Not his team but the other teams?
RT.Z – who wouldn’t!?
who is the player with da rising star
All these players we are being linked with? we must have bundles of cash to spend!!!
apparently bayern wanted wenger but monaco refused to release him – then binned him after bayern appointed someone else, so he ended up in japan, according to wiki anyway
Haha, i have send that bullshit rumour.co.uk a message about cole 100% coming to arsenal and green and taylor too, and that they would not be the only one. There are some more signings after the WC. HAHA
I said that i knew RvP’s brother.
Wenger is a deluded man,who is obsessed with his success. After guiding a team of quality professionals to success, he thinks that he can do the same with his favourite shit love children.After a few years,its likely that he will be more (in)famous for his trophyless years and favouritism than his past success.
You wind up the flying dutchman and there was me thinking it was all true
haha, did you read it reggie??
wenger has already achieved more than most football managers and his best years are ahead with the culmination of the emirates project and the drip feed of world class players from the academy. he is Arsenal’s most successful manager. show some respect.
reggie, did you send something to that site too, look at the rumours now.
NO I HAVE NOT SENT ANYTHING TO BULLSHIT RUMOUR.CO.UK
wengers finished at arsenal,this summer will prove when we sign noone,chamakh is a shit signing aswell.
ANB, i really think we sign some good players. Not one or two but three or four.
don’t hold your breath dutch
So would you like him to be our manager for the next ten years even if we dont win anything.Past success can never be used as an excuse.
Chamakh will score three goals this season.
more like none jag
wengers time is up,next season i hope is his last.
Oh my God
Chamakh will score 15 goals+ mark my words
And he is very good at assisting aswell….
bbk dont ever ever believe a dutchman as they are all bullshitter’s…….
If Yaya goes to City I will lose all respect for him. A club of little history with johnny come lately fans with deep pockets. And he chooses them over a CL club. Farcical. Mercenary.
Fuck me Gooby superb vid, Bergkamp henry pires Lundberg what would they all be worth at their peak ?
zeus – his brother plays for Citeh and they will be top 4 next season over Tottingham
Gooby.. fantastic vid..
what a player.. what a first touch!
When is he coming back to Arsenal to train the strikers?!
Gooby Also they are willing to pay him £150,000 a week….
Sorry :::I meant zeus time to get in the shit cart
DB10.The best ever player to have ever wore an Arsenal shirt.
*worn
Cant we just bring Bergkamp back. Im sure he would say yes, his number is available and all.
wat a video of dennis
legend
03-04 was wengers pinnacle
Anyone know how Bergy is going at Ajax? Last i hear he was coaching the kids. I hope he is our manager one day….a successful one of course.
03-04 we witnessed some amazing football by amazing players just saying the names viera, pires, bergkamp and theirry henry says it all
Because we had players like DB10,Titi and Paddy.
Not retards like Diabolical and Denilshite
Bendtner vs Bergy
I joke i joke
i met dennis a few times towards the end of his career and i asked him everytime about would he like to manage arsenal one day and he would always say he would love to and that would be his aim if he went down the coaching route as he has
Jaguar, there no need for insults.
Even better Mark. We want him here and he wants to be here. Wonder what he will do about the flying though? Sleeping pill maybe?
Stu,if we have an away match against Maccabi Haifa,who would accompany the team?
gunner4life dont even joke about it, its disrespectfull to dennis
I give up Jag, tell me.
Its not insult,just facts.
only when were old men will we fully appreciate what players the likes of dennis and theirry were, thierry especially, even in a team packed with world class players he stood out, by far the greatest player i have ever seen
for 4-5 years he was the best by far and the most consistent player in that team
from vieira to denilson
from thierry to bentdner
from pires to nasri
from invincibles to invisibiles
i fucking appreciate them now,it’s like we are a completely different club these days.
sums it all up,we won’t never see the likes of football with the clowns we have nowadays
Its not fact though Jaguar. Calling someone a retard on a regular basis is an insult, whether they hear about it or not.
we are completely different now adays
it was always going to be a decline from the standard we set then, but the decline has been much bigger then any gooner would have thought of
i got an email from the club yesterday and on the front page was a picture of eboue, denilson and eduardo
say no more
Brilliant point,Mark Gooner. Wenger has turned us into a joke.
Wenger is a spastic.
Wenger is much less a spastic than those who call him spastics, imo….
Yaya to City then, not a massive surprise. Barca are gonna sell half their squad to fund a move for Cesc, then get told to fuck off!
yaya is good signing for city
i would have loved to have seen him here, but after the fiasco with kolo it was always unlikely, add to the fact we like to do our shopping in poundstretcher its hardly suprising to see him sign elsewhere
a midfield of yaya song gourcuff would have been top class
Yeah Jaguar, and im sure he had nothing to do with what we were before he turned us into a “joke”.
I dunno A, i think if they get enough money Cesc will be sold.
A,if we are tabled a bid of 60m,Cesc would be sold straight off
Yeah stu/jaguar, to be fair i could see it happening maybe, though i’m still not sure they’ll offer that much even if they sell yaya and ibra.
yeah agree mark, yaya would’ve been awesome but when kolo was flogged that was the end of any chance of it. very annoying
even more annoying when u think that we chose eboue over yaya from beveren, i was at underhill and saw yaya play in a trial period, it has worked out a bad move
why does aboue get such support from the crowd, it makes wenger think we are happy with that quality of player
there are much worse players in our squad but he is still not good enough to play for a team with aspirations of winning the league
eboue is a good player, and most fans are happy with that quality of player.
we didn’t sign yaya because we couldn’t get a work permit, nothing to do with choosing one over the other, yaya and eboue are very different players anyway!
Real pity we couldn’t get the work permit though, he would’ve been quality for us.
eboue would be a squad player for both chelsea and utd, as well as barca, who want to sign him currently, he’s very underrated as an all round footballer, and utility player
Mark Gooner,I think Eboue is one of the best right backs in England.But the hypocrite tinkerman doesnt want to play him there.
he may be one of the best right backs in england if glen johnson is the pinnacle
i know that yaya and aboue are totally different players, but it was never down to a work permit just wengers decesion
eboue is a decent squaddie thats all
he can run better with the ball then theo can, but who cant
he’s end product is wank, and he is a cheat
i dont hate eboue, he does try his best
there are at least 5 players in our squad that need replacing ahead of him
im just sayin in order to get back to the great days you need great players and he is not that
mark it was completely down to work permit, wenger wanted him, couldn’t get work permit, so had to send him packing after a couple of weeks.
real pity.
eboue is a squad player, and if the invincibles had had him in the squad as a squad player they would have been stronger….
A he already had a european work permit as he was playeing at beveren in belgium
if wenger had really wanted him at that time he would have got him
i dont blame wenger at the time we had vieia, parlour, edu
its like you said A its a pity seeing what a good player he has turned into
The invincibles didnt need squad players because noone ever got injured. I cant help but feel it was because of the winning feeling. Noone complains about injuries when everything is going well.
Well…either that or the fact that most of the invincibles were over 6ft.
A we had players like keown, parlour, reyes, wiltord as squad players then
these injuries are a joke that’s for sure. I’m so glad they are trying something new to try to combat this.. I’m actually pretty shocked that they didn’t think to implement it before.
injuries are down to some bad luck and some small weak players
Mark you don’t need a work permit to play in Belgium.
Yaya couldn’t get a work permit, so there was no way that he could have played in England, and at that point we weren’t in a position to organise something like we did with Vela, where we signed him technically, but sent him off on loan to spain until he was able to get one.
Wenger is not bigger than the British legal system unfortunately, so regardless of whether Wenger’s life depended on it, Yaya could never have come to England at that time!
Mark Gooner. It’s too consistent a problem to be attributable to luck.
You may be right about the smaller players though.
The invincibles had justin hoyte as back up right back, eboue would have made the squad stronger….
keown was completely finished then
A just wondering where you get your information from is it the internet
i was quite involved with the club up untill the emirates move and i can tell you that wenger felt we wasnt desperate for that type of player at that stage
why would we trial a guy that we know we will have problems signing
HB the leg breaks/impact injuries have to be put down to luck, because any player would suffer a similar fate with the same tackle on them.
Teams going in harder on us because of the mentality that that’s how you beat us will contribute, but alot of it must be luck.
With muscle injuries though something needs to be done, and hopefully is
Mark Wenger said it plain and clear in an interview. It’s on Arsenal TV online somewhere, I’d imagine you’d be able to find it.
We’ve had a fair few players on trial over the years who we’ve then had to wait to get a work permit for, or havn’t been able to, as alot of English clubs do. Work permits are far from that easy to get in England.
I had believed the work permit reason for not signing Yaya until now. It does make sense that it would be pointless to trial a player we had no hope of getting a permit for.
A i dont want to sound like billy big bollocks but up until 2004 i was head of commercial assets at arsenal for 11 years and had meetings monthly with wenger and members of the board
yaya toure was not signed for no other reason other then the manager not wanting him,
trust me part of my job entailed looking at players permits and background checks
im still in contact with quite a few people at the club and have heard on very good authority that joe cole is done and dusted
mark no offence but you said just now that “he already had a european work permit as he was playeing at beveren in belgium”
which shows a surprising lack of knowledge of the British work permit system for someone who’s job entailed looking at permits etc – i thought even most football fans knew how those worked, 75% of games in x number of years, fifa ranking etc, and all exclusive to players coming into Britain….
I’m not saying you’re lying, just that it seems weird, along with Wenger saying a couple of years ago very clearly that he wanted yaya but couldn’t get him because of work permit
stu that happens often.
you don’t know whether you’ll be able to get a work permit for a player on appeal, special talent visa it’s called now, until you apply and make a case for it, and you wouldn’t apply until you have agreed a deal to sign the player.
The club would have thought they could have gotten one on appeal, but ultimately failed
is there any word when it is likely to happen mark regarding jcole?
Eboue is better in attack, but sagna is better in defence.
Eboue is a RM, Sagna a RB.
Who cares who AW buys, as long as they are a CB and GK we’ll understand that even he can see our problems. And lets face it, when has AW upset us with a transfer that he HAS made???
Sagna and Clichy can cross, the only problem is they do it when they havent controlled the ball prioir. Look at when they have time on the ball, and their crosses are good. But when they run onto the ball and cross it with their first touch, thats when they start picking people in the crowd.
Seeing how no1 is on, I’ll start my own conveersation…
DENILSON FOR CAPTAIN!!!!
patthegooner says:
June 3, 2010 at 17:56
Its all speculation.
none of us have any idea of what Cesc said to Arsene.
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well i think we can safely say by cesc’s reaction to the converastion , about the best he’s ever had .. arsene
id say from the rumors based on him wanting to leave , his dad etc, we was asking wenger to leave ..
and by the warm fuzzy feeling he had at the interview id say he thought things worked out in his favor ..
Do not take WE WONT SELL CESC AT ANY COST , at face value .. this is just a tactic to get the VALUATION ..nothing more …
and if cesc really wants out now ..
like he said if ever he would leave he would approach wenger and ask to leave , if this all blows up in his face and is made to stay , how effective a captain is he ?
once this element has crept into his game id prefer cesc just resigns from captain even if he does remain .
i wouldnt want someone as a captain if his heart isnt at the club .
cesc will leave .. im sure ..
unless barca is skint ..
wenger doesnt want a want a way at the club , he knows keeping him on will only encourage others to leave for greener pastures ..
the only way wenger can savage any team morale is to sell cesc , and do his talking in the transfer market ..
at least players like RVP – AA23 – Rosicky and co .. TV
maybe gallas . will see some endeavor at the club ..
keep cesc & we will fail another season .
sell him , and make changes..& it could be just what the doctor ordered and the shake up we need to see some results next season .
bye bye fab2 or big al
Arsenal have secured the availability of young keeper Emilio Damián Martínez after the Argentine was granted a work permit.
The 17-year-old stopper signed for the Gunners following a trial last August, but has only just received the permit that makes him available for Arsenal U18s next season and higher if needed.
Arsenal blog site Young Guns had previously revealed that Arsene Wenger had landed the Argentine U17 international, who returned to parent club Independiente following his initial signing.
The Gunners then invited Martinez back to north London a few months back, confident that they would be able to secure the necessary paperwork for the talented teenager.
Martinez becomes available as of July 1st, and is expected to become the number one next season for the Academy side.
what happened to James Shea
Pedro ur a child. I didnt know u were this young. U thought u were a dinosaur
Morning all.
WC Top Scorer. Five or six should do it, so I’m looking for a player who might bag a hatrick in group stage. Spain have Switzerland and Honduras. Who takes their pens. Alonso or Villa, and how fit is Torres (in an ungay way)?
Assuming Joe Cole comes, and AA sticks with 4-3-3, and he goes out left, is that curtains for Theo as presumably AA will have to go right?
Sorry, “AW sticks with 4-3-3″, not “AA”.
Fuck the World Cup………
Micky Joe Cole would just go into the rotation I’d imagine. Certainly not curtains for Theo, not anyone else.
There won’t be any guaranteed starters, even Arshavin will spend time on the bench.
Arshavin, Nasri, Theo, Rosicky, Vela, Cole will all rotate, and eduardo too if he stays!
And a very good morning to you too Mr Menace. So its your day for good news. Private lock-in at the Che, is it?
A: guess you are right. Just wishful thinking on my part perhaps!
I’m telling all of ye. RvP to be top scorer at 20-1 is the best bet there is…
So is Bendy at 100/1.
Backing a first time winner ( Spain/Holland ) is also decent.
Rohan: Bendy top scorer for Denmark, yes, but I can’t see Denmark scoring five. RVP, agree.
G’day MDI89, the news is the meeting today, whether there’s an announcement i’m in the darl as much as you!
And, unfortunately my contact is now away on his holidays, so i can’t even plug him for the outcome of said meeting today!!!!
darl????? WTF was that????
dark
We are announcing Buffon today
DDM: I know not to which meeting you refer, but if it has anything to do with the lock-in, can you take a mate?
morning fellas
:sigh:
Frey?
sixx pac
Any keeper? Seriously, any1 will do. Even Dida. Myhill. Plz Arsene
MDI89 – I have no mates
DDM,
Morning old bean still havent got that Gin yet !! Is the meeting to do with incoming transfer targets do you know?
villa are in for frey
What about Jimmy Rimmer????
Then we can get Big Bad Brad.
who?
Is Robert Enke available?
chippy – Get ya finger out fella, Hendricks with diet tonic, lime, loads of ice and a stick of cucumber in this weather is oral stimulation
The meeting is for AW to say yes or no to signing Joe Cole. EVERYTHING else has been agreed, except whether the manager definitely wants him…..;;
Jimmy Rimmer!!!!
well thats great. A bit anti climactic though. Was expecting a Pepe Reina or any other keeper
haha, imagine Wenger says no. We have Theo.
Again, Who?
The name “Jimmy Rimmer” has more of a “ring” to it these days than it would have back then!
Holy Mother of God! Fore shame on you……..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Rimmer
Frey/reina/buffon/hart/nueur/akinfeev/lloris
just googled him. At least he got an international cap. More than u can say for Almunia
Wiki doesnt make him look good. was he any?
Two European Cup Winners medals. Unbelievable. Right time, right place I guess.
Not good. I was there!!!
MD89 judging from that i guess he wasnt any good
it seems like we signed a player called thomas bendtner.
Correct Sixx. I was young at the time, but you could tell that he was no crowd favourite!!
dont tell David
Gooby: that should ensure Corporate renew then!
Got work in 3 hrs and i havent slept yet. G Night
big lump of
Morning all, I’m about to post. A non ranting one to make a change!
Thomas Bendtner is Nicklas’ dad. Good ol’ Arsene once referred to NikkiB as Thomas. I think that’s where it all started.