I’m hugely disappointed with the way this season has panned out. I was hoping for a strong finish from our first team and to hopefully finish within a few points of the top two teams. Instead, we’ve blown chance after chance and we’re stuttering to a slightly improved finish on last year.
Like I said yesterday, Wenger can’t perform his usual trick of fielding loads of exciting kids in the last few games to get the world excited about project youth. He does that at the end of most seasons and the AKB’s use those kids as the reason he didn’t buy in the summer.
This season, we’ve got third place to win before such tactics can be employed.
I’ve been pretty disappointed that we haven’t seen more of Carlos Vela this year. If he reminded Wenger of Robbie Fowler before Christmas, surely he should have been given a run in the team? Denilson reminded me of a unfit crab before Christmas and he seems to get a good go in the team more often than not.
I’d have liked to have seen more of Fran Merida. He’s off to Madrid because he wants to play football. Why not stay here? Well, he seems to have gotten the Carlos treatment this year. Genuine talent, no games. I can’t understand Wenger’s mindset? I bet it’ll be the same with Jack Wilshere next year.
So what makes Gooners think Wenger is going to splash the cash this summer? The AKB’s have the same faith as the realists every year that Wenger will strengthen where necessary.Here’s how I reckon it’ll pan out…
We get till the end of July… no signings (Bar Chamakh who we’ll be told actually cost us £10mill in wages because salary comes out of our £2mill transfer budget).
‘We’ve still got a whole month to go, stop your moaning!’, cry the AKB’s!
Then we get to the last week of August.
‘Wenger knows who he wants, he’ll get 50p off it he does it at the last minute’
5:30 deadline day. Arsenal register zero players, Wenger says…
‘If you look at the average age of my squad, I would say I do not need players. I believe in my team”
Why will he change his mindset this year? What would make him sign Gary Cahill with Rodwell as an understudy? What’s going to make him go out and buy Hugo Lloris… surely that would kill Chesney? Don’t get me wrong, Chezzers looks class, but he’s playing in the 2nd division and he’s dropped a few clangers. Do we really want to risk the Premiership on a keeper who is 19? I don’t…
Does anyone truly believe Wenger will accept he’s lost on Denilson (Who a mate of mine confirmed is a complete tw*t in a social setting)?
Will Wenger admit that actually, Theo isn’t delivering? Or toe Arshavin up the arse when he’s kicking off in the press every week?
Realistically, if you forgot for a minute that Arsenal are a Charity for young kids who can’t carve out professional careers elsewhere… who would you sell? I’m gonna put some names out there…
- Denilson (Too average to comprehend)
- Silvestre (Not good enough in his prime, certainly not good enough now)
- Eddie (Not the same player)
- Almunia (Spains #18)
- Fabianski (Has a clanger ratio better than Cesc’s assist ratio)
- Eboue (Too old to play back up)
- Simpson (First Division at best)
- Randall (Not good enough)
- Merida (Gone)
- Walcott (Kieran Richardson with more pace and costing us a bomb)
That’s a lot of dross that probably won’t leave. If we shifted them and signed some mid range hungry replacements, we’d be in a good position to compete… however… Wenger has got his excuse for this year already… World Cup inflation!
Our experienced players are too sloppy and our younger players don’t have the drive. Wenger should stop fantasising about the average age of his squad. He says he doesn’t look at a passport when he signs a player… well, we know he certainly looks at the birth certificate. Here’s an idea, why not look at their injury record and why not look at their quality?
No more Silvestre type signings please.
Does the set up need a fresh eyes approach? You can’t be a revolutionary for ever, can you? Does someone need to make a big decision at board level? I’m not suggesting we sack Wenger… but the board can’t go on pretending that this type of season is 1) An over-achievement 2) Was not preventable 3) That for a club of Arsenal’s stature should only be able to compete in two competitions.
Who has the balls to challenge King Wenger? Who sits him down in an office and tells him that he needs to have a rethink? Who bursts the Project Youth bubble? Can you see Gazidis, a Wenger choice for the job, having a quiet word? I can’t…
Are you the type of person who thanks your lucky charms you’ve finished in a respectable position and seen some good football along the way, or would you prefer to see a bit of risk? You know, maybe not get the chance to celebrate record profits, but maybe , just maybe, see a prize of sorts decorating the Emirates bare trophy cabinet.
…and you know what, I’m not snobby enough to pretend I wouldn’t love an FA Cup or a Carling Cup.
So, we’ll do what we do every year. Renew our tickets, spend the whole summer having the same conversations we have every summer… then come the start of the year, roll out the blind faith until it all falls apart in exactly the same way as it always does.
Being an Arsenal fan post invincibles is a world of de ja vu so I might as well get the ball rolling…
‘Have we signed anyone yet?’
On a lighter note, I met with a guy from the FA yesterday who was adamant the Wembley pitch is a dream and the players complaining should get longer studs in their boots! Do you need any more evidence as to why the FA have so many problems? Oh, and Gooner talk has pointed out that our net spend since our involvement in the Premiership has been £1.7mill a year… anyone got that Champagne? Finally… check out our buddies post at Memoirs of a Gooner.
Have a low net spending day Grovers!
Le Grove is now smart phone compatible!
Pedro
Geoff
1st
I hope wenger can motivate them for Citeh, really dont want to lose that one…
cant see it tho.
BOOM!!
Top 5?
top 5???????? Ahhhhhhhhhyeaaaaaaaaaah!
QoS….me and you both!
So….Man City??? A good game to silence some critics???? Im feeling confident about that one!!
Great post. Seen the future Pedro has. Wenger just has a diary. During the Summer it just says “Ditto” on each page…
look
do you want arsenal to turn into leeds?
Boom….boom…I lose in the battle between me and anthropormothomology.
Dilema for Saturday. I wouldn’t be too upset if we lose against Shitty if it prevents the Scum from getting 4th place. Also, I don’t want Wenger changing his mind if a few shite players have a good game and he goes back to thinking they are good enough to stay.
Good Post Pedro, it’snot often I agree with you
Man city’s strength ?, pacey attacking counter play. Our biggest weakness ? defensive discipline and workrate.
If ever he needs to revert to 4-4-2 it’s this game. He needs to protect the two geriatric CB’s.
Will he do that ? will he feck, he’ll get a beating and blame volcanic ash causing his little lightweight cherubs to suffer breathing difficulties, hence them not being able to track back citeh’s attackers.
good post, painfully true!! id keep theo though
Realistically, if you forgot for a minute that Arsenal are a Charity for young kids who can’t carve out professional careers elsewhere…
Bit harsh, no????
To be totally honest, if this really was project youth, then Vela, Merida, Wilshere and J.E.T should really have been given a run in the team. Jay Simpson would have been a better addition to the squad than Eduardo – FACT! Jay is an Ian Wright type who has a lethal shot on him. My point is that project youth hasn’t really been given a go in many respects, other than the FA and Carling cup. I would much rather have the aforementioned playing than the likes of Denilson and Diaby, who haven’t done enough to cement their places. Meh…
Great post pedro
Ian Wright did a good article this morning
THERE is no point going down the Thierry Henry route by saying everything is rosy in Arsenal’s garden. Of course it’s not.
Such comments merely placate the fans but hide the fact there are some major problems with the team.
While the defeats to Barcelona and Spurs were disappointing, the capitulation in the final 10 minutes at Wigan proved Arsene Wenger’s side needs some major surgery.
And now it’s time for Arsene to be honest with the fans.
All my Arsenal mates keep asking me what’s going on – and all Arsenal fans deserve to hear the truth.
Arsene’s current contract ends at the end of next season and when Arsene says he has yet to decide whether to stay, I do actually believe him.
I think he is still mulling over whether he wants an extra couple of years at the club.
After yet another season without a trophy – it’s five years now – there is a split between the supporters who wants him to remain and those who want a change.
I reckon it’s now about 50-50.
While I’m worrying about the situation, Arsene is still the right person who can attract world-class players to the club.
I cannot think of any other person I would want as manager. Fingers crossed he will stay.
Although he doesn’t always see everything on the pitch, Arsene needs to come clean about the club’s financial predicament.
I want to hear Arsene admit that he is being incredibly stubborn.
That he does have plenty of money to spend but he wants to continue to do things his way and prove that you can create something special with kids.
Otherwise, Arsene has to finally admit that he hasn’t had any money to spend which is the reason why there have been so few world-class signings over the last few seasons.
I want him to finally concede that building the Emirates has affected his ability to compete in the transfer market and this will continue to be the case for the next few years.
There has always been mutterings from the board that Arsenal do have money to spend. While the comments from Arsene could be interpreted both ways.
I think the thousands of fans at Arsenal who display such loyalty and fork out from £1,000 each year for a season ticket deserve some answers.
There has never been a clear explanation over the club’s transfer policy and I find this very strange. The supporters want to know whether there is a chance of Arsenal signing the four quality players which they need to compete.
I have found this season frustrating because as the season has been so open due to some of Manchester United’s and Chelsea’s results, Arsenal could have nicked the title had they strengthened.
But one look at the team sheet at Wigan was a reminder of the weakness of this current squad.
I really don’t know what is happening with the goalkeeper situation. Manuel Almunia is a No 2 keeper. Lucasz Fabianski is a No 3. In central defence, Arsenal had Sol Campbell and Mikael Silvestre.
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Sol was a great player and while he did well at Spurs last week, another match so soon might have been too much for him.
I heard Lee Dixon highlight the team’s defensive frailties and he was asking why Silvestre was not closing down Wigan’s players quick enough.
One of Adams, Keown, Bould, Dixon or Winterburn would never have defended like that. Aside from needing a new keeper and at least one central defender to play alongside Thomas Vermaelen, Arsenal need a midfielder to partner Cesc Fabregas and a striker to go alongside Robin Van Persie.
Wenger doesn’t seem to fancy Eduardo who has hardly been given a decent run of games, although I admit he’s not had much luck with injuries.
He’s the sort of player who will probably go to another club and then start scoring loads of goals.
But Wenger must start giving him more games or bring in someone else. Arsene says Arsenal are the only team where the players are improving.
It’s all very well comparing the players to an ageing Chelsea team but they have the money to sign new, better players. I’m sure they will open their chequebook in the summer so I find Arsene’s argument pretty irrelevant.
And the last thing he needs is being haunted by a former player who could turn up at the Emirates and score a few goals.
Emmanuel Adebayor is poised to do exactly that when he rocks up with Manchester City on Saturday evening.
He will get a hot reception from the Arsenal fans and I must admit, he wasn’t one of my favourite players.
From what I hear, he was pretty disruptive.
But he will be back on at the weekend and, considering the players who could be marking him, I think he could do some real damage alongside Carlos Tevez.
The title may now be gone but it is vital Arsenal pick up some points because the thought of them being pipped to third by Spurs is, quite frankly, unbearable.
But most importantly of all, it’s time Arsenal’s supporters are given some hard facts.
atom, id keep theo too!
Completely agreed with this post. I have always loved watching our younger players play and keenly remember when Fabregas stepped on the field in his then-mullet. Look who he is today.
I echo your thoughts that the same situation exists for Wilshere, Vela and even Ramsey but they just haven’t been given enough air time this season.
In addition to those picks, Bendtner needs to be included in the list. Sure, he’s scored crucial goals for us but let’s face it – if Arsene had bought a striker in the transfer window and players like Arshavin were fit, Bendtner wouldn’t be on the field. As this very blog has said before, he plays like a 22 year old substitute striker, not a first team one.
interesting on the prem spending charts that we have spent a fair few quid over 420 mill – however, we have by far re-couped the most revenue by selling players.
I dont believe transfer costs are an issue to the money men, it is the wages that is the problem.
Even if we spend 35 mill on four players this summer, we will probably sell 30 mill of players.
Did anyone else notice that JD got injured – he was supposed to play for the reserves last night, but has a sore knee.
Great – no CB’s
Gallas
TV
Song
JD – all out
We have 16 players out on loan. Out of these 16 players how many will ever play for the 1st team? 1?
Anyway – out of the 16 players we have a further 5 CB’s – that we can access
Bartley
Senderos
Ayling
Nordveit
Hoyte
So in theory – we are 9 CB’s down. We are a joke.
Getting rid of dross (BTW the list forgot to include Diaby) and spending say max £60 million on 4 or 5 new players who are not only quality but have energy and committment and a good fitness record will not turn Arsenal into Leeds.
Daryl, the thing is that Cesc was surrounded, literally, by world class talent which meant that he could play his game and not get caught out as often as the young players we have now.
Ramsey > Denilson
Merida > Diaby
Vela > Edu
Wilshere > Eboue (on the wing anyway!)
50 – 50?? Jesus Christ Wrighty never misses a chance to show his bitterness does he?
No way do 50% of Arsenal fans want Wenger to go. No way.
QoS…with you there. Wrighty has proved to be a complete knob since leaving Arsenal. The fecker is so full of himself. I am so fucking glad that TH14 is our top socrer and not that twunt.
invincible… great minds mate!
Le Invicible – i thought it was a good article
Me too. I never really forgave Wrighty for that Benfica interview, live on TV, telling us he wanted to leave.
The talksport stuff afterwards just confirmed it. He was agreeing with stuff he knew not to be true just to spike a rating.
Wright is a bit of cock with his comments.
For me we still have the problem 4 years on and we’re no nearer sorting that out. All this passy passy stuff is great, but in order for players to really express and demonstate that, you have to have a strong spine throughout the team. We’re no nearer having that than we were 4 years ago.
Queen of Suburbia – I wont say 30% of fans want wenger out. We should do a Poll
Hasn’t Gilbert played Centre Back for us as some point as well?
i mean i would say 30%
Wrighty said 50% Rob. I’d say closer to 10%. And frankly they are the ones they don’t know what they are talking about.
wright is a media attention whore.
its a shame he could have been a proper legend but almost every time he talks hes slating us
Little point doing a poll because it’s only a poll of the fans on this site, its not representative of the whole Arsenal fanbase…
no girlbert is purely an RB…. and pretty shit at that to be honest, plus he’s got an attitude problem.
Wrighty has annoyed me at certain times since leaving the club but he is an Arsenal man with the club close to his heart he does what he does to earn a pay packet outside of football do i agree with certain things not at all but for all his bluster at times he certainly loved playing for Arsenal and knew what the badge meant, And that article today is pretty close to the mark with regards the club needing to tell the truth because if they keep going down the same track this board and Wenger will end up being hated in the same manor the Labour goverment are and i for oine wouldnt want Wengers legacy to end in that way !
Queen of Suburbia – there are a lot of fans on here who want him out!!
QOS – fast forward to September and we only have Numchucks and maybe 1 other signing coming in and we still have most of the dross here, which judging by the last 5 summers is highly likely.
Would you be happy giving Wenger 1 more season, knowing full well that we will win jack sh1t once again?
http://www.arsenal.com/fansforum
typical arsenal trying to find some love “was arsene wenger right to sell ade and kolo to man city?”
of course he was! how about a proper poll though something like…
“was arsene wenger right not invest any of the 30m profit he made from selling ade and kolo to an city”
CHIPPY 09:32 – spot on mate!!
Don’t forget what wrighty did as a player for us!! I am not excusing some of the stuff he has said!!
From the bloke who told me Campbell would re-sign;
He also told me this, as he knows everyone in the Racing Game.
“Shay Given said to AP McCoy when he was available
from Newcastle ” I would walk to Arsenal”!
Wenger you fucking mug !!
Morning Grovers! Great Post!!
Rob Green, love the mini post within the post! totally agree mate!!
GET IN!!!!!!
Wright should have said
50% of the fans are dissapointed at arsenes wengers management and transfer policy for the last few years, and want change.
I don’t KNOW that we wouldn’t win anything John A. This team in my opinion would have won the league if Van Persie was not injured…so i don’t share your opinion that the league is unwinnable with our current squad.
I cant atand Arsenal.com!! They talk so much sh*t on that site!!
QOS,
Id say it was now higher than 10% for sure, id say more like a quarter personally i dont want him out but he really needs to either A tell the Truth about his transfer restrictions so as the Fans understand or B Actually go out and improve this side for once because as it stands without 3-4 New signings that lot wont win a thing,
QofS… you just highlighted why the league is unwinnable with our current squad though… because there are always so many injuries!!
the injuries are one of the characteristics of the squad, unless they somehow get rid of that characteristic we’ll either have to spend to win or stay where we are
Ian Wright
2nd best out and out striker we have ever had in my lifetime.
bit of a shit writer (not really a surprise
)
QOS – If only key players like RVP would stay fit for most of the season, then we would stand a chance.
My main gripe is that we know damn well that we will have more than our fair share of injuries but Wenger refuses to add a bit of quality to the team to cater for this.
How the hell can we be relying and a 36yr old Sol (who has played above our expectations) and Shitvestre, when he knew damn well that Djourou was out for the season and Senderos was on his bike?
And don’t get me started on our strikers. Not signing anyone in the January window was an absolute disgrace ! Waiting for Bentdner to come and save our season is ridiculous, as he is no more than average.
Sorry for the rant, but I’ve really had it with Wenger.
Either he bucks up or gets out.
Incesc,
Id personally say as a goalscorer he was far and away the best dont forget some of the shit midfields he played in front of, If he was at his prime in a side consisting the likes of Pires,DB10, Viera etc he would have scored bucket loads more in my opinion. Th14 was the better all round player out of the 2 tho,
I feel like a “Le Chump” right about now…
We all know RVP in injury prone and wenger does!! There is no excuse!! Just like there is no excuse for having one of the worst keepers in the league for 4 years!!
QoS
Lets say its fact that we would of won the league if RVP had stayed fit.
Then that highlights why wenger was such a stubborn idiot not to spend the 25 million wenger got on ade on a world class striker…
I’d agree with those that say they’d like to see a bit more clarity, have we got money? have we had money? Like the cliche goes though, I think we’ll have to wait for the autobiography to come out!
As regards injuries, i was addressing the point regarding new signings Tom, i understand your point, i don’t want to make excuses either…yes injuries will happen, but the sheer number we’ve had over the last two seasons is highly unusual especially to our best players…then again its not the first year we’ve had the issue…for one season you can blame bad luck etc but at some point i guess, i’ve got to accept that there is an element of negligence in not being prepared to lose most of your best players at the same time!
Hope he does these “Deals” before he goes off to SA for the WC.
Wright sucks cock.
The only one who I listen to who talk sense is Merson and Charlie, Smith is also a turncoat
Merson and sense in the same sentance i love the bloke but thats a joke rght
Pedro and Geoff is’nt it time we started to vent our anger at games, these blogs never seem to be heard.Le Grove argues the points close to my heart, i really believe you lads know what your on about and are not a brainwashed wengerite. Is’nt it time we produced a banner like ‘OPEN THAT WAR CHEST!’??? Start to demonstrate our frustration in a friendly manner??
Queen – Hasn’t there been that element of negligience since project youth began? It was a classic case of tunnel-vision. Nothing else mattered. The only thing that mattered was proving the point that the project would be a revolutionary footballing success.
Quite unfortunately (and a costly one at that), it wasn’t too much of a success.
All those Wenger phsychophants will probably accept another trophyless season more than 5 years since we have won anything – and the fa cup final againsy manure was hardly a win !
The only thing that will really shake the AKB brigade is spuds accent into 4th (and possibly 3rd ) place. Maybe that will just concentrate thier minds that ADKB (D – Doesn’t) – of the curent squad my only starters would be – Sagna/Vermailen/Gibbs/Fab/Nasri/RVP – Wenger doesnt fancy English players so sadly we may never see Wilshere again which is a disgrace because he really is talented reminding me of Chippy Brady
Re: Strikers – it seems quite clear to me that Wenger decided he was getting Chamakh in the summer so wasn’t prepared to buy cover for RVP at that point. Its unrealistic to expect that Chamkh would have come in Jan when Bordeaux were still in the champs league.
I can only assume he didn’t sign short term cover, becasue he felt there was nobody available better than Bendy or at least would adapt quick enough to be better than Bendy.
He has already started the rubbsih joking about signing Robben and Sneijder,as an Arsenal fan having watched a major capitulation at wigan it might have been better if he actually tried and do the decent thing and try to sign both of them but to wenger it is only a joke.
Melvyn, that’s a joke right? We’re trying to have a proper conversation here!
Gallas and RVP will always miss chunks of the season unfortunately, arshavin has his moments as well, cesc & ramseys leg breaks were bad luck.
its fine having these players cos they have the level of quality we want but if we’re gonna have them they we need adequate cover
melyvn… a wins a win mate… doesnt matter how you get it
I don’t know that negligence is a fair charge Jon? I think Project Youth is a blog term rather than anything concrete so I can’t really say its a success or a failure.
If the objective has been to keep us in the Champs league whilst we’ve got no money to spend, at the same time sewing the seeds for when Uefa home grown regulations get a lot tighter, then you could make an argument that he’s been very succesful in those terms.
and to do the manc son pens after getting battered for most of the game probably makes it even sweeter to be honest
QOS – which bit is a joke – sadly to me none of this is funny
Tom i think it comes down to a ponit i was making the other day, that when you do worst case planning, i’m sure you consider that at some point the players you’ve named are going to be injured.
I’m not sure that you realistically can expect to plan for all of those players to be injured at the same time, for the most important games of the season.
I honestly don’t know, maybe we should have that level of crisis planning?
QofS
“If the objective has been to keep us in the Champs league whilst we’ve got no money to spend, at the same time sewing the seeds for when Uefa home grown regulations get a lot tighter, then you could make an argument that he’s been very succesful in those terms.”
spot on… if the plan was to keep us steady and in the CL and get to a point like this summer for example where we can spend serious cash then its worked perfectly… if it was to win trophies its been a massive failure.
personally i think it was the former
Chippy. What I mean is that when he talks about us he speaks from the heart, on Sky when he says that we have been needing a top keeper for years and like he said on sunday, Fabianski is “Useless”
Wright allways sounds bitter
The cliches you’ve trotted out…Wenge doesn’t like English players, the AKB insults! It’s like someone jumbled up a bunch of anti-wenger rants and spewed forth!
C’mon man at least contribute something to the discussion!
QofS… loosing RVP and bendy and eddie being in the state he’s in is hard to plan for. the problem comes when it comes to jan and theres the opportunity to rectify it and we dont it looks like he doesn’t care or its just too stubborn.
loosing verm for the last 4 games is another major spanner in the works, but to fair he’s played so often it was always going to be a possibility
QOS,
And that last post is why he really should come out and give us the facts most knew we would be low on funds for a good few years whilst the transition to the Emirates was completed but weve been there nearly 5 years now and nothings changed if anything we are spending less we may as well stayed at our proper home in that case,, Now what he has done on a tight budget i personally dont beleive any other manager could have done but to me it seems hes now become obssesed with it to the point its becoming detrimental but as i say i may be wrong and that shitfeast of a board are still holding funds back which in all honesty wouldnt surprise me in the slightest as i dont trust them as far as i could throw them, All i think i and many want is a bit of truth anyway good having a convo without it getting into a slaning match between right and wrong
At the same time that we’ve been broke, we’ve had to compete with the most succesful United team ever, and Chelsea who were able to go and buy a couple of trophies.
I don’t like not winning trophies at all, but i am trying to keep a sense of perspective.
Please don’t misunderstand me, i’m not saying we don’t need changes, or some additional strength buying in, that mistakes haven’t been made, nor do i consider Wenger immune from critism…but it isn’t all “doom and gloom” either.
Good post Pedro
From your out tray I would save Eboue (if he is happy as back up which he might be) and Theo (but remind him that patience is not a bottomless well and with his peformances over the last few years no one is going to offer him better terms)
The sharp pointed boot would also be directed at Rosicky – yes I know he has been injured but his attitude has been lazy – he has been around (allthough not playing) long enough to know you dont get time in this league; Nasri needs a cuddle and boot as he has had great games and then poor games.
Some one needs to take a toe end to our fitness – too many strains etc; rushing players back control of injuries (the horse placenta fiasco cost vanP about a month in terms of getting back can you imagine how we would be doing if we had had him for the games since west ham (ie birmingham, both barca games) we pay these guys a fortune the treatment decisions are ours
And finally the coaching coterie – our defensive coaching – in open play ie the quick counter we lose to utd/chavs everyone and the set pieces we concede to all the sh1te teams are preventable with good coaching but the players dont get it
As for signings well the needs have been articulated (that means thought out in a constructive positive helpful ideas based manner for the AKBs) so many times I dont need to add anything but – I agree with Pedro / Geoff
BigDave,
Yeah Merse certainly talks from the heart, Ive been lucky enough to have met him on a couple of occasions before the demons took hold and he was a top bloke apparently he changed a fair bit tho when his vices took hold buit hopefully hes back on a level field again,
Hes quite a big chelsea fan tho is our Merse, But yes what he says he certainly means unlike some with hidden agendas !!
and the fa cup final againsy manure was hardly a win!
mate that was a great win
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/4/16/1239890833424/24sport-Arsenal-v-Manches-011.jpg
I think he probably did try to sign a striker in Jan, Tom. Perhaps none were available, he did seem to say that he was going to sign one didn’t he?
His tune changed perhaps as it became clear that he wasn’t going to land one and then from then on, he started the bigging up Bendy routine…which would make sense if that turns out to be your only option.
I believe Sunday’s Arsenal.com article, that we’re buying and buying big.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-we-have-money-to-overtake-chelsea
I can’t remember the club larging it like this before any transfer window. It was always the oppsite, that we’ll be frugal, that we’ll stick with what we’ve got and give it another shot.
I also believe Wenger makes the big decisions.
I believe he told the players that in all his time at Arsenal he has never seen a team capitulate like that.
I still believe Arsene has the desire to win trophies so this summer it’s his last chance. Every year he’s told us he is confident that we can win a trophy. This time he must put together a winning team, a team that doesn’t run out of steam in the final lap of the race.
So all you doubters, Wenger’s gonna shake things up, like never before.
After the invincibles the Arsene God like status became the norm for Arsenal fans but he disassembled that team far too quickly.
He also gives players games on what he thinks rather than on merit, and this stretches back to the days of Manninger. Manninger kept eight clean sheets in a row (still a club record) and he dropped him for Seaman.
We need genuine competition for places, not just the manager’s belief that they will improve otherwise the notion of competition for places is a farce.
If wenger had bought in david james in January we could have had an extra 6 points on the board!!
I love how everyone is so terrified of life after Wenger, he was a good manager who has lost it.
Good post Pedro, I think project youth officially died in the last few weeks. Even wenger has started to talk differently.
at the end of the day football is a gamble
Arsenal.com, the board and wenger say whatever suits them!! They have said a number of times they have money then another time they will say we can’t afford this player and that player!! Money isn’t the problem its wenger and his policies, stubbornness and ego!!
Gambon, why do you think that everyone is terrified of life after Wenger?
rob, you don’t know the facts about the money, all you get are snippits like the rest of us, so you are only speculating when you say its down to ego and stubboness.
q.o.s wengers gonna stay next season i think we all will accept that,what i ask tho is,what is he going to change next season for us to start winning trophy’s again?????
Finest
I said yesterday that Arsene should easily be allowed to spend £60m on players if he wants.
As he said wages are the problem, but it shouldnt affect us too much cos we will be offloading as many as we buy this summer.
QOS,
Again thats why i think people are Angry tho they are fed coflicting reports from all angles at the club and dont know who or what to beleive anymore, They would contradict themselves from one day to the next and at times in the same paper !
The Club made a missave ricket claiming all in the garden was rosy whilst at the same dismantling one of our greatest ever sides to cut the wage bill theres only so many times people will listen to bullshit before becoming angry,
#massive#
QoS
Well thats the only thing i can imagine, cos as you say there are very few (10% maybe like you say) calling for his head after 5 years in the wildeness.
If Wenger had quit in summer 2004 and someone else had taken over, would anyone still be backing them after these last 5 years???….absolutely no chance.
Queen of Suburbia – wenger and the board have said we have money so I do know the facts!! Unless they’re lying to us!! Surely not!?!?!
May 15, 2009
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/i-have-money-and-i-will-buy-insists-wenger
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-i-want-to-buy-as-soon-as-possible
BBK, if i could have him change one thing, i’d start with the fitness of out top players.
I’d then ask him to add some more depth/quality certainly at goalkeeper and Central defense.
yeah but what is he going to change,we all want him to act on those points you have made,but will he?
QoS… to be honest i think the ‘buying a striker’ thing was just stalling for bendy to come back.
with chamakh coming on a free in a couple of weeks i cant imagine he’d buy 1 more as well as it looks like eddie’s off to make way for chamakh and we’d be overloaded with another one.
bendy’s done well since he’s come in to fair its the other places we’ve been found wanting
Morning Lads
!El posto excelente Senor Pedro!
Chippy, is it realistic to expect the board to tell the truth? Does the chairman of Virgin tell the truth, does the chairman of Barclays? Does any business tell the truth or do they just tell the version of the truth that is most palatable to their shareholders?
Their job is to sell tickets, to move merchandice ultimately if they do those things well then eventually their should be moeny to spend…
But to expect honesty and clarity from a business, any business is unspeakably niaive in my honest opinion.
I think we have already done a
few deals to bring players in.
Does anyone reckon sol could do a better job then pat rice
BBK? I’d like to think so. I don’t know know so, the proof of the pudding i guess will be in the eating..
Tony Cascarino: Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger should have signed Lyon goalkeeper Hugo Lloris
Gunners lacking strong spine in their side…
By Steve Alexander
19 Apr 2010 21:29:00
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger should have signed Olympique Lyonnais goalkeeper Hugo Lloris two years ago, according to Tony Cascarino.
The former Republic of Ireland international believes that the Gunners must alter the spine of their team if they are to compete for honours next season, starting with the goalkeeper.
After losing 3-2 to Wigan Athletic at the weekend, the Premier League title is now out of the question, and Wenger’s side have now gone five years without a trophy since winning the FA Cup back in 2005.
Arsenal number two keeper Lukasz Fabianski was criticised for his performance against Wigan on Sunday and Manuel Almunia’s form this season has often been questioned.
“Starting from the back, Wenger must admit what everybody else has been saying: neither of his two goalkeepers are good enough for a side with title ambitions,” Cascarino told The Times.
“Manuel Almunia is a sufficient No 2, Lukasz Fabianski is simply not up to the job.”
Cascarino believes Arsenal should have signed Lloris when they had the chance two years when the French keeper was still at Nice.
Since then the 23-year-old joined Lyon and has been an important part of the side that have reached the semi-finals of the Champions League.
“Quite why Wenger did not sign Hugo Lloris from Nice two years ago is a mystery, especially given the manager’s scouting network in France,” Cascarino added.
“Having worked in French media, even I knew that Lloris would soon become his country’s best goalkeeper.
“Now at Lyon, and with his reputation further improved, Lloris would not be cheap but he would suit Arsenal.”
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Cascarino. I’d cheerfully bottle that wanker.
Shockling that Cascarino probably gets paid £5 a word, for tripping out some bullshit that every single person on this blog could have written.
Morning, still fucking gutted…we need change.
Rob Green.
May 15, 2009
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/i-have-money-and-i-will-buy-insists-wenger
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-i-want-to-buy-as-soon-as-possible
haha
Thats equal parts laughable and terrifying
morning guys
QoS project youth is not something that was birth on a blog. It came from le spin himself
“When we decided to build the stadium I wanted to anticipate the possibility of financial restrictions, so I concentrated on youth,” he said. “I also felt the best way to create an identity with the way we play football, to get players integrated into our culture, with our beliefs, our values, was to get them as young as possible and to develop them together. I felt it would be an interesting experiment to see players grow together with these qualities, and with a love for the club. It was an idealistic vision of the world of football.”
Diaby doesnt look like he cares about the club.
Pep Guardiola: ‘Arsenal uncompetitive and Arsene Wenger not a good coach’
Barcelona coach Pep Guardiola has taken an inadvertent swipe at Arsenal and Arsene Wenger ahead of his side’s Champions League semi-final clash with Inter Milan.
The Gunners were the – probably unintended – victims of Guardiola’s mind-games with Jose Mourinho as the Barca boss effectively said that Arsenal were not as competitive as Inter and that they would not be able to create as many chances against the Italian side because they have a very good coach.
Guardiola said: “I think we played two very good games in the quarter-finals against Arsenal and we are going to try and keep this level.
“I would like us to create the same chances, but I don’t think so because they are very competitive and have a very good coach, but we will try.”
So Arsenal were not very competitive and don’t have a very good coach?
Diaby with hair is great
Diaby with a skin head is poor
I have analysed the guy & that is Diaby to a tee
QOS,
Fair Point, But Arsenal is a Football Club always has been and hopefully always will be now in the Chairmans words they are custodians of said club and The Arsenal has always stood for doing things the right way currently they are not following that mantra and havent been for a couple of years, Now i see where your coming from and what you say is probably what is happening but they are making the situattion alot worse by following that caourse of action, Im only one person but what annoys me above anything, more than player signings , ticket costs that shithole we now call home stewards all of it is that the Club i love and always will do is treating me with contempt by continously lying,
brilliant post mate..at least some blogs are ready to criticize the policies we are employing…
78692…
thats the biggest shit siring article ive ever read! whoever put that on their site needs a kicking
gnarley, I noticed Diaby performs well when he has the thick goatie beard.
samson diaby
Q; What`s the difference between the Icelandic volcano and Cheryl Cole?
A; The Icelandic volcano is still blowing ash!
He doesn’t coin the term “project youth” there Franchise. The blogs apply that label because it then becomes a nice stick to beat people with!
The money aspect is a side issue to me. I want answers for his lack of instilling any desire, motivation into these players. He came out after wigan & said losing late goals ‘isn’t like us’, we lost discipline. Christ the 4-4 draws a couple of years ago showed us that, the continual surrendering of leads told us that. Question is why hasn’t he rectified it ? why are the same players & i mean the team not individual scapegoats, still making the same basic errors. The Fergies of this world would have booted them out years ago.
i would say using the word experiment is worse than project
cos a project is designed to succeed even though they dont always but an experiment is a test under controlled conditions that is made to demonstrate a known truth, examine the validity of a hypothesis, or determine the efficacy of something previously untried
Greg your right, there are some things that can be sorted out without money.
For example;
*training on set pieces
*training on corners and marking
*communication between the back 4
*training on getting our midfielders to track runners into the box
simple things like this could have stopped half of the goals we have shipped this season.
Chippy, i don’t think the club have ever told us the truth, nor do i expect them to in the near future.
Its semantics really Franchise, but i’d say Youth experiment indicates something that can be tweaked and adjusted whereas “Project Youth” is a term that some blogs and bloggers use to denote something inflexible and rigid and a further example of Wengers marauding ego.
Labels stiffle discussion in my opinion, its like the term AKB and indeed Doomer. Its a lazy way to win an argument.
“typical AKB here to tell us Project Youth hasn’t failed”. I mean, BOOOORING!
*Cough…
I believe I coined the term Project Youth.
MORNING ALL!
Most depressing post ever……
You know why? Because after 25 years supporting the Arsenal… I agree with everything you said.
Still gutted from the T**tenham game… think that’s going to last well into Summer.
Something’s got to give, it can’t go on like this. I for one think it’s time to go old school. Get some English lads in that know how to fight, and will die for the club.
And get rid of the dead wood….. it’s only just keeping us afloat now and we’re in serious trouble of sinking…. .
Morning QoS, I see you’re battling your corner well today!
The set pieces issue? Am i right in saying we’ve actually conceded one of the fewest number of goals from set pieces in the league? I haven’t got the stat to hand but recall reading earlier in the season that we really aren’t so bad at defending set pieces.
but it has taken us no where and i doubt wenger would be foolish enough to persist with the same set up after 5 years of being trophyless
out of all the players we have signed under 18 years of age in the last 5 years only a handful have lived up to expectation
even VP was 21 when we signed him, flamini same age
Hi Pedro! I’m enjoying the discussion, its nice to hear alternate views with it heading down the name-calling route!
get keown back he’ll sort out the bottlers.
pedro,got any views on sol doing a better job then pat rice????
Yeah… guys… no one is an AKB on here… this is the blog of love and you’re contractually bound to love your fellow blogger.
if i list the no of youngsters that we have invested in and have failed to make wny impact whatsoever you would be baffled
players that were meant to step into the first team and help us in our quest to win honors after they ‘shine’ in the carling cup
the list is ginormous
and still yet others like the norweigian CB who cost us a few million are not championship div 1 ready yet
p.s. still blowing Ash
Mwahahahahhahahahahhahahah!!!!!!!
QOS, i dont beleive that until i see the stats.
My eyes tell me we are shit at set pieces.
IMO only Cesc and to a far smaller extent Clichy and Song have joined us as U-18s and have blended in
Song didnt exactly blend in seamlessly and Clichy IMO is worse than he was in 07/08
Project Youth has kinda failed
i think we’ve also scored the most goals from outside the area in the league!
incredible
Speaking of the blog with love. Where’s Geoff Pedro?
BBK, in answer to your point about Pat Rice. I struggle with this on another forum (one dedicated to the AKB’s rose tinted brigade)
It’s too easy to point the blame at Pat Rice. This was the guy whos was part of the coaching set up through Graham & the famous back 4, through to Arsene’s succesful years. When it goes wrong people want to blame him, whys that ? surely if he’s responsible for the bad times he has to be credited as the mastermind behind the good ones.
Arsene Wenger is a total control freak, he dictates everything from the training ground, hell he even insists on bottled water being a certain temperature. Arsene has to acknowledge he needs help, he has to allow any number 2,3 or 4 to have their own influence, their own effect. He doesn’t, so changing the number two wont work in my opinion, because he’ll have no responsibility
FFS Senderos and Djourou oined us in 2003 and 2004 respectively
none still good enough and are very likely to leave come end of season
Wenger has a big hand in the slow dev of these players. kids dont learn from kids or from shite adults like silvestre or from crocked players like rosicky who are always on the treatment table
the whole set up is a fucked up
A good post but it has thoroughly depressed me just as I was putting the razor blades away. Ooh to be a gooner eh. At least I finally got a ticket for the fulham game. There is an upside to being shit
Kinda? more like miserably Franchise
well it has kept us minted GM but the problem is if we could have afforded say Ribery in 2006 at £15m we cant anymore
Same for Fernando Torres
A&N its a widely held belief for sure, thats why i remembered the article/analysis I saw.
Gnarley, Geoff is getting his Uefa License so he can apply for Arsene’s job!
In seriousness, he is stuck in Spain!
GM, I’ll sort out a more cheerful post tomorrow!
Greg, welcome to Le Grove… apologies it took so long to get your out of moderation!
Guys would you believe that Phillipe Senderos is older than Thomas Vermaelen?
we should have sold him in the summer but Wenger who likes to sell his players more than they are worth struggled to sell him. its funny cos on the reverse we like to under price players
I can’t really see a strong argument to say that we should abandon having a strong youth set-up though?
Depends on the time scale you put on it i guess, but talent has come through and should continue to do so…
Being called an AKB isn’t name calling. Your sound like you back wenger a lot and you’re sticking g up for him etc so you think winger knows best. So that why someone called you an AKB
You can call me ADKB i wont get offended
Glad to be here, I’m always posting legroves articles on other forums, where i’m frowned upon for daring to challenge.
lol, sendy older than verm… more experienced to probably! only thing he isn’t is better!
QOS – I don’t think we should abandon having a strong youth set-up but we need leaders and experience around them and I dont mean players like silvestre!!
If you were to get another manager he would be able to tell you Arsenal overplay.Yeah Arsenal are the most attractive side in the world playing beautiful soccer. This is because Arsene wants it. Even Sagna says the gunners overplay. koeman also said the same thing.Btw the gunners playing attractive soccer always get beaten in the big games.
So the new manager would play to win with minimum pass plus the long ball.Wigan used the long ball and scored three times.
What’s wrong with this?As long as you win it’s ok.If Arsene wants to continue his beautiful soccer and does not want to win ugly,let him go and join the Harlem globetrotters. These basketballers play for laughs and there is nonstress.
we’ve been allot better on attacking set pieces with the sol man back thats for sure
the best xteristic that can be passed from senior to junior levels is a winning mentality
and at our level we cant afford to organically produce too many youngsters if we want to remain competitive
these things are a bit hit and miss and need time
might i remind you that we paid top dollar for some of these youngsters compared to what mid table clubs pay for seasoned experienced pros.
Rob its used an insult. I’ve a thick skin, i don’t really care other than when somebody says it, its a clear sign that i’ve already won the argument as they clearly can’t from a rational contention of their own.
Denilson Neves Perreira cost us £3.5m as an 18 year old in 2006
same year Patrice Evra who IMO is the best LB in the country cost Manure £5.5m as a 25 year old
An AKB is someone who defends Wenger without justifying what they are saying…
Arsenal played poorly…
‘Shut the fuck up, Arsene knows…’
Not someone who backs the manager in certain situations and will generally explain their ideas.
I don’t think anyone is an AKB on here… because no one 100% backs everything the manager does.
Actually, Franchise is an AKB and a Dane hater.
I don’t understand the point you are making here Franchise…”and at our level we can’t afford to organically produce too many youngsters if we want to remain competitive”
Surely, Barca are an example of a side that can succeed on organic talent?
I can see a logic in trying to grow exceptional players rather than waiting until they are £30m players and then signing them. There is still an element of risk with buying top quality at its peak. For every Torres there is a Berbatov.
oh Pedro thanks for reminding me Bendtner is toilet
Well another summer of ‘same old, same old’ awaits. It’s ticket renewal time so obviously they’ll be the soundbytes and the carrot dangling game of new players coming in. Arsene will then hot foot off to South Africa,all expenses paid,courtesy of Castrol and will be making disclosures such as’ i’m here with my cheque book’. He will then return warning of world cup inflated prices, waiting for madrid & Citeh to do their business, to initiate the market. Pre season fixtures will be upon us,we will be told that our Austrian traning camp prep is vital and that nothing will be done whilst thats on, that the market doesn’t close until August 31st. By which time tickets safely renewed, money banked. How fortunate we were to hold on to the players we have and how weve re negotiated some existing non warranted contract extensions.
Fran, I hate EVRA but he is top of the Actim stats for defenders because he is the best in the league!
Queen of Suburbia barca produce top youngsters but they dont go into a season relying on toddlers like we seem to do
if you are good enough you are old enough
the newest youngsters to break through from Barca’s academy are Bojan (19), Pedro (22), Busquets (21)
the come in phases and unlike us are slowly integrated into the team
We rely too much on youngsters
we definately need to keep the youth set up.
We have a fantastic academy with some great kids. we need to blood them a bit more slowly and not so many all at once.
our average age should be 27-28, ie a good mixture of experience and youth.
Oh and almunia and silvestre being old and pushing the average age up doesnt count.
Organically grown……..
I’ve grown weed more strong that fucking Denilson.
Open your eyes. He’s not good enough for ARSENAL FC
That is the bottom line….
You could probably give examples like Evra all day Franchise, all that we can do is say generally our record in Transfers is pretty good.
There are players we’ve missed yes, and players we’ve signed that haven’t been great…but even the most anti-Wenger blogger out there would be hard pressed to say he’s poor at finding good players.
A&N Evra (the cunt) is 2x the player Clichy is IMO
QoS, Berbatov still has good goal stats.
I think a balance needs to be struck between youth and experience. Our is about 70/30 in favour of youth… if the kids have no one to learn from, they’ll never learn!
We need to be signing a couple of top players a season in my opinion because we always seem to lose two players. If we lose experience of 26-27… you have to buy it back. A 20 year old will never give a good season straight off…
Chesney looks talented… but I think it would be hugely unfair to put his career on the line at 19 after a string of shite keepers.
Lets loan him out to progressively better teams for a few years… then give him the chance when he’s tasted some real pressure.
Great point Rich, well articulated.
Thats cause he plays for Man United Franchise. You love them
If walcott, fabregas, nasri and song were our only young players and they were surrounded by top internationals at the top of their game how much better would wengers youth policy look.
with ramsey and wilshere to be blooded next.
the rest like denilson should still be used only in the carling cup until they get up to standard.
You wouldn’t for one second suggest that Berbatov has been £30m well spent though would you Pedro.
I agree on the need for a balanced side, we’ve got quality experienced players as well…its just that they all fancy the nurse in the treatment room.
no one is saying we dont keep the youth set up but we should always remember that it is hit and miss so as much as you can avoid relying on kids in the course of the season do avoid it
how many games has manunited carling cup heroes of last year played this year? not a lot
i used the evra argument to make a point that its a myth that we had to spend massive amounts to buy quality experienced players
vidic cost 3m less than vermaelen FFS
if our scouts werent instructed to watch kids round the world we could have had some more vermaelen, arshavin kind of signings
Fran, the problem is not the player it is the coaching.
The fact that he went to man utd made him better, he learned about the dark arts from Neville & co, and toughened up. He was shite in his first season but since then he has been top class for them.
If Evra came to Arseanl he would have become a soft fat ponce.
QOS – Barcelona have experience mixed with youngsters and spend money on big names, They Also put a lot time into defending and have quality all over the pitch!!
You can compare arsenal to Barca which you seems to be doing with your ”Surely, Barca are an example of a side that can succeed on organic talent?” statement
Also pep guardiola knows about tactics!!
Evra is one of the biggest cunts in the premier league.
Fran, would you say we relied on the WRONG kids???
IMO Vela, Merida, Wilshere,
over
Bendtner, Denilson, Diaby
???
Abou Diaby has made almost 150 appearances for our first team and he is still unreliable. he cant hide under the young banner anymore. he is 24 in less than 3 weeks
Den has made like 120 apps when would he be the reverred and feared DM
Diaby 150???? Jesus, now there’s a stat!
I remember when we signed him, Walcott and Ade at the same time…..
Read it in context |Rob – I was saying that a side can succeed with young organic talent. I wasn’t saying we are as good as them or anything like that, i think you’ve misunderstood my point.
Pedro – I don’t like using the words kids anymore. Wenger has been calling them that for 5 years! The majority of them are not kids anymore and are internationals and experienced players in Europe etc. I know they are very young compared to say Chelsea but someone told me that the tottenham team that beat us the other day had a younger average age!
Players Out:
Almunia (probably the worst no 1 keeper in the whole PL)
Fabianski (he’s actually gone from promesing to really bad since he came here)
Silvestre (lost whatever little he once had…though i can’t really remember he had anything to begin with)
Senderos (don’t wanna be here anyway, which is too bad cause i think he’s actually quite good…if he doesn’t stand against Drogba that is…)
Traoré (we don’t need him)
Gilbert (in all his Arsenal career i can only remember one good thing he did, and that was delivering a good cross for Henry who scored one of his many goals…)
Denìlson (doesn’t have what it takes really…)
Randall (wtf is he still doing here!!!???)
Barazite (anyone remember him?)
Mérida (already agreed terms with Atlético Madrid)
Eduardo (will never be the same, i’m sad that he never got the chance to “really” play at his best for us, cause of that nasty injury)
Players In:
Hugo Lloris (French no 1 for many years to come)
Brede Hangeland (Just what we need, tall, experienced & knows the PL)
Felipe Melo (We wanted him before, Juventus got him under our noses, but hasn’t worked in Juventus, he wants to leave them, he was superb when playing in Fiorentina)
David Silva (Would suit us perfectly, don’t come cheap though)
Marouane Chamakh (will come for free)
Loïc Rémy (Nice’s top goalscorer, french international)
This would be enough, and the team would look something like this:
GK:
(Lloris), Szczesny, Mannone
CD:
Vermaelen, (Hangeland), Gallas, Djourou, Campbell
RB:
Sagna, Eboué
LB:
Clichy, Gibbs
DM:
(Melo), Song, Eastmond
MF:
Fàbregas, Arshavin, (Silva), Nasri, Rosický, Diaby, Ramsey, Wilshere
ST:
van Persie, (Chamakh), (Rémy), Walcott, Bendtner, Vela
So if Arsenal really has money (like they say they do) then these players would not be impossible to get in…
We will get some cash for the players leaving too (not much though)…
I also have some other new names that could be an alternative:
For Hugo Lloris > Igor Akinfeev
For Felipe Melo > Yaya Touré or Jérémy Toulalan
For David Silva > Jesus Navas
For Loïc Rémy > Mario Balotelli
Any thoughts about this team?
Is it good enough?
Le Inv its a mixture of some not being ready, not good enough or and having the wrong attitude
many of these guys are old enough after the appearances they have made. its cos they came to us young we still feel they are young
Senderos and Djourou are big examples of how hit and miss these things can be
the margins to become the best are never that big. You team could outplay united but still loose a. cos they cant defend and b. cos they are clueless in the final 3rd c. some lousy player is bound to make a cock up
what seperates good players from average players is the reliability factor
all GK make cock ups for example but not as much as our clowns have this season
FFS look at Porto’s opener at da dragao what was Flapianski doing there?
Don’t disagree with the point that there is experienced talent available at good prices. Not for one second.
Don’t know what wages they are on or what Evra was brought in on though, perhaps that has a bearing?
I made the point earlier that i think Arsenal take into account resale value and Uefa homegrown regs when bringing in talent.
Diaby is 2 years older than cesc and the same age as rooney.
he needs to man-up.
QOS – i agree with you about young talent I just don’t think some of the players are good enough. We have a lack of leadership and we don’t have enough winners!!
The likes of diaby, denilson, Almunia, Fabianski, walcott, Silvestre, Eduardo are just not good enough for arsenal football club!! IMO
Baracite scored twice last night and has been playing very well in the reserves since coming back from a long term injury hasn’t he? Looks a pretty good prospect.
Harsh on a few players inho Rob…but its your opinion.
I for example would be quite happy to see the back of Diaby, Almunia, Fabianski, Silvestre, even Eddie. But there are others that would disagree.
Theo Walcott
this dude has never had a good 4 weeks in terms of reliability
has he even got a good 90 mins?
Walcott has made 133 apps (72+61)
Ok QOS can we agree none of them are good enough for the starting 11. One or two might be ok for backup
If Barazite still is considered a “hot prospect” then so should Theo…and we all know that’s not the case…
Walcott has only completed 90mins for Arsenal on 1 occasion.
You’d sell Walcott Franchise?
I think that would be mad. He’s got improving to do for sure but if he were on the market, there’d be a queue round the block.
This season has been more disappointing than the last, and it is obvious for all to see that we need some changes. The problem is that every season we hear the same thing coming from the club at this time, it is just too hard to tell if anything is going to change and if players will be bought in the summer.
I remember the summer when we bought Nasri, it took 2 months to do the deal and it made it seem like he was the next big thing, and look how that turned out. I am worried we will have similar situation again and come august we will all be happy that at least we signed one player (Chamakh).
ABOU DIABY 135 (101+34)
NIKLAS BENDTNER 123 (65+58)
DENILSON 121 (100+21)
ALEX SONG 115 (93+22)
I like Denilson Rob, i think he enables us to keep the ball well and I like Walcott as well in flashes so of your list, i’d want to keep them, but I’d agree they wouldn’t start every week.
I wouldnt sell Walcott yet cos his problems might actually be that he isnt kicked up the arse enough
I bet Martin O’Neill could get some reliability out of him
Barazite will never be Arsenal calibre, like most of the kids in the ressies, U18/U16s right now.
Good player though who we could probably get £2m for.
Couple of weeks ago Ray Parlour was on talksport (and still managed to keep his integrity ahem Mr Wright). He said something interesting about Wengers approach.
He said if you’d got a weak left foot then other coaches would make you do a disproportionate amount of work on it, but Wenger was more about making your good foot world class.
I’ve wondered if this is the approach taken with Walcott, your asset is your speed, learn how to use that” rather than spending more time developing his all round game?
what pisses me off the most with these guys is the lack of commitment and desire they show at times especially in those games that a little bit of fight would have just been all that was needed to give us the 3 points or prevent the loss with a draw
u would be surprised how organised and how lee error prone this team would be under a no-nonsense manger like Mourinho
Wenger’s approach IMO suites players that are mostly self motivated something you get mostly with experienced players
Mourinho loves experienced players himself and hardly goes for youngsters what does that tell you?
Less Risk
If the right bid came in i would definately sell Walcott, i dont know who would buy him though, maybe Villa, Everton type clubs.
Martin O neill? Possibly, when he’s not sulking.
…..and how less error prone……
I’ve finally calmed down after the Wigan farce and feel I can post something without being too unkind to many of the team that day. However, in this case any amount of restraint won’t hide the fact that we have many players in our squad and I stress squad who are quite clearly not up to the challenge. I’m not going to name them but it’s obvious we need a clear out. If Wenger pursues this stubborn approach with his “youth project” then Arsenal as a club will become an also ran for many many years.
Teams below are getting closer. Injuries, as Wenger admits are not an excuse. Quality of the squad is a reason. A poor defense is a reason. Useless goalkeepers are a reason. A lack of professionalism and desire throughout the squad is a reason. There are many reasons, injuries are not a reason. If you want to hide behind that as the reason for another year of failure, dont let anybody tell you otherwise.
Money or the perceived lack of it is not a reason.
Our board are playing silly power games and preventing real investment into the team. Our wage bill is still huge but we lack depth, why? Why are we paying reserves, who have no chance of being first team players, a reported £25,000 per week?
Things need to change. This not a knee jerk, its been years in the making and I hate the fact that we lost out this year because of a lack of quality throughout the squad.
I would give Walcott one more season, Diaby should be no more than a backup. As for denilson, surely a club like ours can get a player that offers us the same ‘quality’ and more. Almunia and Fabianski are not Arsenal quality.
It is very important to remember that we are The Arsenal, and what is good enough for clubs like Wigan, Villa, spuds etc is not good enough for us.
——————Hugo Lloris———————
——–Brede Hangeland—–Thomas Vermaelen——
Bacary Sagna—————————Gaël Clichy
——————Felipe Melo———————
………..David Silva——Cesc Fábregas———
Robin van Persie——————-Andrei Arshavin
—————–Marouane Chamakh—————–
This line-up could easily be shifted to a 4-4-2 with van Persie & Chamakh up front and Silva & Arshavin on the flanks… but either way all these 4 players would have the so called free role…
It’s quite difficult question. Do we want risk-taking? I think myself, and like a lot of others I talk to only want a risk being taken if it works out in our favour. We can be abut fickle like that. At this point I would love us to take risks within the transfer window because most of us are at breaking point with more players leaving than coming in. However, I think it was a risk to throw the Carling and FA cups and it is mentioned everyday in this and other blogs. If we happened to win the league or got lucky in the CL people would regard that as a risk/sacrifice that was well worth it.
What I want is an element of killer instinct. I want teams to be nervous when they play us because at the moment I think we have a reputation for being soft. Not in a sense that we’re small, but more that we lack a lot of spine. AND most of all I want us to be a more of a threat from set pieces. We’ve got a lot of kids, I want to see one to two proven players come in. You can tell Sol wants to win, we need to bring in people who want to win. Sometimes I watch our players and I almost get the feeling that they are out there to perform their given duty as opposed to giving all the effort they can to ensure a victory. You can always see the determination in TV, Glichy, Fab, Gallas, and Sol. Seeing Denilson trot back after he gives up the ball and the other team is on the break makes me wanna vomit everytime. Anyway, rant over. Belated congrats on the thousandth post.
easy grovers,
lovely day, shit season.
You still growing that stinky weed?! (Rich norfff bank)
Great picture that Incesc. Thanks.
Ashley cole if only he was NOT a money chaser, he could have been captain and Mr Arsenal. So much passion in that pic.
gambon that’s hardly revolutionary insight there, most of the kids in the U16/18s reserves won’t make it….ya think?
As long as the best ones do and enough of the rest go for a fee then fair play I reckon.
The trouble is ray, as I see it, is workrate. Hangeland would need special protection, milk turns quicker than he does, if you’re gonna go with him then you need to double the protection in front. Melo couldn’t do it all. Personally I see him getting Melo and sticking Song as his new CB partner for Vermaelen.
I want warriors on the pitch who will run themselves into the ground to defend a 1-0 lead against Dagenham & Redbridge.
As a team theres no doubt our attitude stinks sometimes.
QoS
I was merely pointing out that Barazite for example is a good player, but way short of what we need.
United, Liverpool and Chelsea would all take Walcott in a heartbeat.
RayGooner Silva is off to Real Madrid by all accounts.
Aye, the early encouragement of defending high up the pitch, as seen at Goddison for the first game of the season, lasted about 5 matches. Then the normality returned.
QoS, I never rated denilson. But he had a terrific game against Barcelona. Changed my opinion of him a little bit. But one (maybe more than one but not many) good game in one season is not good enough.
Diaby is ahead of Denilson by miles.
Diaby anyday over Denilson IMO. I think most gunners will feel that way.
Greg
You got that wrong.
Hangeland needs protection behind, not infront of him.
Anyway Barca play a higher line than us with little pace, so if wenger is as good as he likes to think he should be able to make it work.
Short of what we need now Gambon but it doesn’t mean he can’t be a good player for us in the future.
if melo isn’t good enough for juve,why would he be for us.
cos Henry was BBK
i think we should give barazite a chance these last few games.
I can also see Song playing there Greg, but that would mean Wenger won’t bring in a new CB then…
Maybe 2 DM’s instead, Melo & Toulalan…
That could work…
we got lucky fran,won’t happen again.
For me Diaby is everything thats wrong with the attitude of this team in one bundle sam. Massively talented yes, but lazy and arrogant and sinks more than he swims.
Denilson on the other hand, keeps the ball very well, wins the ball very well (albeit not in the crash bang style of a Flamini granted) and as such I’d like him to stay.
Gambon, with that line up it’s too attacking, defenders would be pulled all over the place. We would be exposed time and time again in the huge gaps that will be in that midfield.
Agree about Barca’s workrate, sure who else emulates it though. We can’t & because of that if we are to play attacking wingers/full backs, then we need at least two disciplined CM’s that will coiver the ground, doing the donkey work. Just like Brazil do with Gilberto & Melo.
raygooner, thats a scary team mate,
I wouldn’t sell Theo or Eboue this summer, but all the others on Geoff’s list earlier can get their coat. I think Theo might just improve more than people expect. fans tend to give players 2 or 3 years to prove themselves- thats just a traditional thing, but its based on players who are much older when they come in. We fans tend to apply the same rule to 18 or 19 year olds, but thats not fair. I dont think you can really give up on a 20 year old, especially one with so much promise as theo. Dont get me wrong, he is not first team material yet, but give him til he is 23 and i bet you will see a lot more from him.
QoS
Well it kind of does, like I say, just not good enough.
He will be 20 in a few weeks, by the age of 20 he should have played in the first team a fair few times & be knocking on the door of international football if he wants to make it at Arsenal.
He was on loan at Derby last season, where he played some pretty football, but ultimately contributed very little.
It also doesnt help that he doesnt really have a position. He’s too slow to be a great winger, doesnt score enough as a striker, and doesnt have the all round game of a number 10.
who knows anything about that toulouse player sissoko is it?any good
BBK, he is good enough for Brazil and has to be better than Denilson atleast , if not Song.
All i want is some NEW BLOOD in the Team!
And i really think we will see this next season, i really do!
If only we could find a NEW Vieira a NEW Adams and a NEW Henry….in terms of both commitment and quality on the pitch…
Interesting BBK…his reserve performances should be rewarded with at least some time on the bench you think?
The other players at Derby couldn’t say enough good things about him when he was there. Best first touch at the club they all said.
Queen of Suburbia – are not sick of wenger constantly playing players until they improve and get better
Song, eboue and Denilson were awful and we have had to watch them for 40 + games until we have seen improvement!! It’s getting boring now!! How long you willing to wait until you really question wenger!!From invincible to this!! No trophies for 5 years. At the end of every season we sell big and buy small
Diaby can go definitely. Den and Diaby are not good enough, Silvestre and the keepers can go too. I want to see more of vela on the left wing, not centre forward. But he is now so far down the pecking order, surely he’ll leave in the summer.
Greg
Ive been saying that we need a twin DM system for a long time, Wenger has always gone for a twin DM system as well until Cesc came along.
Hopefully he’ll go back to it.
he will also show a bit more fight aswell,which we need to secure this 3rd spot,he scored a cracker last night and would inject that extra bit.
Ray, for me i’d go with a Melo / Song CM, with attacking players playing either side of them. Have that and you could bring in a Hangelaand at the back.
I do think a bit too much is made of formations though tbh. Every player needs to work hard, not glance across at the so called DM (god i hate that term) & think it’s his job only to defend. His biggest issue is a lazy midfield when we don’t have the ball. Even the best organised defense would struggle when opposition piss down on them because of non existent protection from the midfield.
bbk
He has his moments, but isnt really a DM, more another Diaby.
Capoue plays alongside him as a DM.
I wouldnt mind a look at Capoue.
I would love to see Song-Toulalan partnership.
He’s more of an inside right/left I’d agree Gambon but 433 sort of lends itself to that sort of player.
Don’t forget he’s had a couple of long lay-offs as well which will have contributed to him not being where you’d expect him to be.
If every player was written off at 20, then our second top scorer would never have got his chance for one gambon.
i think wenger will buy 3 or 4 quality players this year, he realises things need to change, were not far away from a league winning side, 3 or 4 players with chamakh and where there!
When i constructed my own dream team the other day and picked the best players i knew for each position, 7 out of 11 players came from Barcelona…(scary)
evening grovers..
great post,i’ve been having THIS de javu for the last 4 years..and if it happens again then AW should resign himself..
anyway touching onto the ian wright’s comment,i agree with most of what he said..the fans needs to know to truth if either the board or wenger are telling lies regarding the available funds..if wenger have had the funds all these time and didn’t want to spend it then i guess we need better than him cos we the fans know we need to strengthen in order to compete..
however if it’s the board who’ve been spinning all these lies and wenger taking the bullet for them,then i guess he’s been a douche bag for them..
ok cool gambon for that
Thats an intersting point Greg that i’ve not heard anyone articulate before… that the other players are looking to the DM to do all the defensive work.
There might be something in that.
Gambon, I agree, Wenger has amassed a collection of ‘stepford’ players and is now fumbling around a formation to accomodate them, rather than getting whats needed.
who’d take guti from real
i dont think we need a twin DM system its too negative. we might need to play it in some games but not all
A few teams in the prem like A.Villa who until Chavs mauling had the best defensive record in the league defend well with a 442. Also against Spurs with Modric and Huddlestone in midfield we were pressed very well by them cos 10 players were involved in this operation irrespective of position
Awareness, Fitness, Commitment, Desire and rehearsed plan….. thats all that is needed to defend properly
QoS
Different day & age now. Players are spotted much younger & generally find their level younger.
Put it this way, would Barca sign Barazite??
Our new Motto when looking at a player should be “What would Barca do?”
ultimately we need to defend as a team much better,i don’t think enough of these can do both,to many lazy fuckers who don’t want to get back or know how to carry this out.
I’m not sure that there is any evidence to support that statement gambon? “Players find their level younger”.
Franchise,
4-3-3 suits us better cos of Cesc.
When I say twin DM i dont mean 2 Alex Songs, that would be too negative, I mean more like Vieira, Petit, where both can get forward but both sit infront of the back 4.
I like the way Brazil play. 2 DMs who cover different sides of the field, allowing the full backs to roam.
Franchise why twin DM. two disciplined players doesn’t neccessary mean DM’s in the term that Andy Gray describes it. What happebened to Central midfiled players that can do both. Vieira could, Keane could.
Brazil work it well, like us they have attacking full backs and have ‘maverick players’ up front, the only way they can accomodate that is to play with two midfielders that get about the pitch quickly & recover the ball. I don’t see it as negative at all.
The way some teams defend that you just know that only a talented magical player would be able to breach it. or if one componenet of the defensive shield slips up
we dont defend like that. sometimes our defending is naive
i was reading some arsenal news just then, and arsenal have been linked with (guillermo ochoa) mexico’s number 1, i thought we dont need any1 like that but i watched him an he looks really good, he’s tall, very athletic, and has quick reactions, and he’d only cost around 3m, coz he cud go on a free next year.
yeah Greg Brazil work it well I agree but other teams like Liverpool that employ it most times look too stiff
I agree there are games that we should be less adventurous but with the opponets we face yearly I would say we can afford to be more creative in midfield with the right players
this summer 2gks,2cbs 1dm and 1cf are a must..
IN
GK: NUEUR & SORENSEN
CB: HAANGELAND & 1 OTHER COVER
DM: CANA
CF: CHAMAKH (TBC)
OUT
CLOWN & FLAPSKY
PONDEROS,FISH HEAD,GALLAS (if he does’t sign)
DIABOLICAL,DENILSHITE
EDDIE (he’s lost it)
these are a must and if i ever see them wearing the arsenal kit again,i want wenger out..time’s running out for Le prof..tick tock
our biggest problesm is that attimes Song who is meant to be the sitter gets carried away too often and ends up with poor positional discipline
QoS
Cesc has played 60 times for Spain, Nik has played 40 times for Denmark.
The World Footballer of the Year was 21.
None of this used to happen very often.
If Barazite cant produce at Derby at 18/19 playing against Norwich what chance does he have against the UTDs, Barcas & Munichs of thuis world?, when the likes of Nasri were winning Young Player of the year at 19?!
Cana? Seriously? Bloody hell!
guti anyone?
Now im not a massive fan of Diaby but he is twice the player denilson is and will ever be how you can call him lazy and not denilson is beyond me FFs Denilson got overtaken by a 50+ year old referee whilst running back !!
Walcott if given a go through the middle with a target man to play alongside would be pretty dificult to defend against and why we didnt switch to that against wigan god only knows hed be fine played on the shoulder of the last defender as his pace would become a much bigger asset
I think with Liverpool and others, it’s the players that play off it, not being of a special talent or more importantly, being told to do a specific job by Benitez, he restricts their flair. Wenger wouldn’t do that, he’d allow the players with , lets say, less defensive responsibilty to express themselves, to interchange. It’s sort of back to the Overmars days, freedom to go where he wanted safe in the knowledge that Vieira / Petit could mop up behind him.
qos,
it’s either cana or flamini..melo would cost too much for us
BBK,
guti is too old..33 i think,not sure if he can cope with the demands of the PL
Greg, sounds a bit like the WM formation………..we’re best off to playing 4-3-3 (modern) and 4-4-2 (diamond) with 4-2-3-1 being a possiblity if we need a temp formation when the first team is depleted.
We should play 4-2-3-1 against Citeh, our centre backs with a combined age of 67 should have max cover available for them. We should start with RVP up front as well.
You can’t make the claim that EVERY young player develops and finds their level early these days gambon, it depends on the player, especially if the player has had a couple of long term injuries.
Iniesta an example, he always had talent but it took a while and the right system before you see the best of him. Drogba another example.
I see nothing wrong with giving players time to develop as long as its not ALL you do.
and if i may add,i want MARTIN KEOWN too..we need him to teach these twats to defend
izham, i aree with all the players, except eddie, i think he deserve’s 1 more year coz i think he’s gonna find his form, but i do understand if he’s not performing something needs to be dun, but 1 more year, if he cant do it then he has to go!
I agree with QOS.I have always maintained that Diaby is an overrated piece of derelict chunk. Denilson is a square peg in the Wenger’s crazy obsessions.
I would get rid of that wanker Diaby in a flash.
———-Mannone———
Sagna—Campbell—–Silvestre—–Clichy
———-Eboue——–Eastmond
Walcott———-Diaby————–Nasri
—————–RVP
This is how we should take on Citeh.
Guy’s i have to go now. First day posting on here & have thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks for making me feel welcome
i would play 2 Defensive minded players in my midfield in a 442 if i have a forward like VP dropping deep and one of the two defensive minded players a Xabi Alonso kind of player that can create from deep and gets stuck in
As much I want 442 back the truth is unless we want to keep playing converted CM/AM in wide positions then we cant play Cesc and say Song as the midfield 2
it worked well(ish) for us when we had Hleb and Rosicky rocking the wings with Cesc and Flamini in the middle in 07/08.
3 of those 4 (Flam, Hleb and Rosicky) used to get stuck in despite their slight frames
QoS
Yeah definately, but only the very best players.
JET, Barazite, Eastmond, Nordveit dont come anywhere near that category. Walcott as well.
The likes of Wilshere certainly.
Put it this way, if you sent Eden Hazard to the Championship he would tear it a new one, Barazite didnt.
We need the kind of players that destroy that league, even at 19 years of age.
Yeah Chippy and Diaby actually hid behind the ref when we played Barca…he wanted so little part of the action.
I think Diaby is very lazy. I’ve seen him when he’s trying and he’s incredible. So the contrast is huge when he’s being arrogant, self indulgent and yes lazy.
craig,
i know you have a soft spot for eddie after what he’d been through..however i think it’s for the best of the team or would he rather stuck in reserves??
his form dipped when the witch hunt began against celtic,cos his comeback goal against burnley in last year’s FA cup was sublime..he’s suffered mentally rather than physically
BBK. Sissoko is CLASS!!!
What can Keown do that Sol Campbell can’t Izham?
Ray, would you like to name your dream team…I can’t fit 7 Barca players…
Franchise, last post on this. You’re right about the quartet of a couple of years ago. The thing there is that team hunted in packs, just like Barca are now and getting all the plaudits for doing. Whats irritating is that Wenger had us doing this 3 years ago & has moved away from it. Had Rosicky & Flamini not got injured that year, we may well have lifted a trophy.
Blimey gambon Hazard would get kicked up in the air the minute he came within 10 feet of the Chris Morgans of this world in the Championship. Its a different game at that level.
franchise,
that midfield 4 of 07/08 worked like a treat,always interchanging and willing to defend..however we were fucked when flamini and hleb decided to go to pasture anew..
however now with the likes of nasri and arsha i don’t think 4-4-2 will suit us..
QOS,
read my last post again in no way am i defending Diabys so called Effort but to call him lazy and then go on about the Virtues of Denillson seemed a little strange to me as Denillson has the comitment and work rate values of Adebayor from last season ie non existant,
I was just saying that out of the 2 lazy bastards Diabys the better player by a long way in my book, Have ever got a future at Arsenal again in my view no not on the wrok rate levels they show,
Denillson in the spanish or Italian leagues where the games a lot slower and less physical would thrive but as a centre midfielder in the premier league hes got no chance,
Good point Greg, those games vs Milan and Madrid…we were like hounds after the ball.
Desire goes a long way. I hope Wenger really really tore them a new one after the Wigan game.
#Either# Sorry
qos,
he could start with teaching these twats to defend as a unit ala 06 when we kept a record clean sheet in the CL with the likes of jens,eboue,sol,senderos and flamini playing in defence..and not forgetting playing with heart on the sleeves..
yeah he did come back awesome did’nt he, your right izham, i do have got a soft spot for him, i just dont want us to get rid of him, then his form comes back and he starts tearing it up again, but if were not playing him, its probably fair that we let him go, coz he wont want to play in the reserve’s wud he, your right mate!
QoS + Greg….they were two momentus games.
Against Real, I remember Eboue keeping Robinho et al very quiet – that game is the perfect example of why Eboue should be competing with Sagna for the right back slot, not right mid or right attacking mid.
As a team, we came together like a pack of wolves in both those games. Imo, there is no reason why we dont play like that in every game.
Defeats against the spuds and wigan are two very telling results.
We simply have too many players who are not good enough.
i know i always am
Come the end of the day, i actually don’t care who we get in, just get some NEW BLOOD in there, just rock the boat a little, do something…
Wenger bought in Cesc for free, Clichy for £250,000, Touré for £150,000, Song for £1,000,000 and Flamini for free, and Ljungberg for £3,000,000….
Hoping he finds something similar next season (for the same bargin price)…
Chamakh for free is the 1st step…
I disagree 100% Chippy.
For sure, he can add workrate to his game but to suggest he’s ineffective in the PL is flat out wrong. He is proven to keep the ball well and he is the best interceptor of the ball in the league.
He’s carried some injuries this year which have affected him especially mid season, but he’s scored some important goals. He’s quality, he’s just not the type of player you think a DM should be.
@RayGooner
A few unlikelies on your part, but pretty good considering. The most important is that Wenger will never bring in more than 4 new players.
Fabianski may go, but Almunia stays.
Silvestre, Senderos, Gilbert, Randall, Merida all very possible to leave. Gallas, Traoré and Eduardo are others.
Denilson will stay as will Barazite. I take it you haven’t seen his performance in the reserves last night. He’s 19 and he’s something else. Wenger will bring in one, two, or even three players from below into the first team squad. I hope Eastmond isn’t one of them, but Barazite and Jay Emmanuel-Thomas could be two.
As for the players in: Lloris and others (I wish), but Hart is much more likely. Hangeland simply won’t come: far more likely another Dutch, Belgian, or Balkan unknown or someone from the PL.
Melo: too expensive. Toulalan would be cheaper. Toure – he’s not leaving B. How about Scott Parker for the experience in the middle of the park if nothing else?
David Silva: too expensive.
Chamakh – probably, but I’d still prefer Rémy.
So:
GK: (Hart), Almunia, Szczesny, Mannone (always 4)
CD: Vermaelen, (+New CB), Gallas, Djourou, Campbell (usually 4 but Gallas, Djourou, and Campbell only adds up to two normal centrebacks.)
RB: Sagna, Eboué
LB: Clichy, Gibbs
DM: (Toulalan), Song, Denilson (Eastmond is too young dammit!)
MF: Fàbregas, Nasri, Rosický, Diaby, Ramsey, Wilshere, (JET).
ST: RVP, (Chamakh or Rémy – not both), Walcott, Bendtner, Arshavin, Vela, (Barazite).
A 1st eleven of:
Hart, Sagna, Vermaelen, New CB, Clichy, Song, Fàbregas, Nasri, RVP, Chamakh, Arshavin.
This is what we’re going to end up with next season.
Now rip the heart out of this side (8 players injured) and see who we have:
Almunia, Sagna, Gallas, Djourou, Gibbs, Toulalan, Nasri, Diaby, Walcott, Bendtner, Chamakh.
Still not going to threaten Chelsea, MU, or Barca is it? But they should still give most opposition a good game and an outside chance.
chippy….Denilson and Diaby are very much the jekyl and hyde of our squad.
Den put in a fantastic perfromance against Barc at the Emirates.
Diaby has shown flashes of brilliance against the leser teams.
Both need to raise their game and find consistancy.
ADKB….scott parker would fit right in to the squad given his fitness track-record!
ha ha
Not what I asked Izham – I asked what of those things could he teach that Sol can’t?
Keown coming in, would just replicate what Sol can/should/is doing. AND Sol was a better player than Keown too.
Anyhow, i’m off for a bit now, I’ve done zero work today. Nice chatting with you all.
OK Duke, here is my Dream Team:
Hugo Lloris
Dani Alves
Lucio
Nemanja Vidic
Eric Abidal
Yaya Touré
Xavi
Cesc Fábregas
Lionel Messi
Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Andrés Iniesta
Qos
Basil’s delusional. The sooner the board, you, and all the brown-noses realize that the better our chances of winning something.
We’re supposed to be a footballing institution – not a financial institution.
A fish rots from the head: BASIL’S HEAD!
I could change Zlatan with either Villa, Torres, Drogba or Higuain but since i’m swedish i go with Zlatan
Puyol i took because of his work rate, he has the heart and desire, maybe getting a bit slow these days but still
Abidal has been out injured for long terms this season, but at his best, he’s the best LB out there…
Dani Alves, here it was a close call between him and Maicon, but i took Alves cause of his freekick abillities…
The rest of them i think speak for themselves…
Of course there are many footballers out there that i haven’t seen so much of to be able to pick in a dream team…
Cristiano Ronaldo i just don’t think he is a team player…too selfish (very good though, but selfish nonetheless…
So are we listing all of the players that we can NEVER or will NEVER sign?
Players that i would most like to have in an Arsenal shirt is:
Hugo Lloris, Lucio, Yaya Touré, David Silva & David Villa…
RayGooner
What does it matter if we find bargains or not, surely the quality of the player is the only thing that matters.
The days of being cheap should be behind us now.
I dont care if he spends £20m on a keeper, or £2m, as long as it solves that problem.
yep, we are…
If we signed Lloris, Lucio, Yaya, Silva & Villa we would win everything in sight.
Hopefully wenger recognises this as well.
I’m missing Thierry so so badly (the Arsenal version that is
)
Ray, that is akin to self-harming
gambon, i’d be happy if we signed just ONE of those guys!
lunch time hat trick!
You misunderstood me gambon,
I ment if we could get players like Touré, Cesc, Clichy, Flamini, Ljungberg a.s.o. for a bargin price it wouldn’t hurt, would it?
Wenger used to find these players, but since Cesc he hasn’t…
i just miss that…
and of course i wouldn’t mind either if he bought a good player for £20-30M, just thought we could get more good players in if they weren’t so expensive…
Say we buy 2 players in the region of £20M a piece, and then 3-4 players for a bargin price…all of them quality players of course…
let’s buy messi
not impossible is it?
if we had £2,000,000,000 in the bank and Barca would let Messi go, and Messi himself would want to come…then i say GO FOR IT!!!!
Raygooner,what would you prefer?
A proven quality player for 20m or 5 unproven toddlers for the same price?
seriously though, we could get the likes of Lloris, Melo, Hangeland & Chamakh and a couple of bargin players…wouldn’t cost too much for us to handle…
I think it would cost us around £40,000,000 when counting off the money we get from the sales of our own players…
Ray
The thing is all of them guys were moulded over a few years, we cant do that right now.
I would love Frey, Yaya, Toulalan, Ciani, Hangeland, Affelay & Chamakh.
Not very realistic though.
Barazite will be top class.
He showed enough on his short loan to blackburn to suggest he can handle the premiership rough and tumble.
jaguar, that all depends on 1st how much money we have, 2nd if 1 or 2 of those 5 players turn out to be the next Cesc or Touré, and 3rd who the £20M player is…
does that answer your question?
Ray, fair enough, but Rooney over Zlatan any day and he hasn’t been that great for Barca, also Inista would be better further back and I don’t think Yaya is even close to being one of the best in that position. That is why he is dropped for Keita and Busquests at points…
Wenger clearly needs to add to the squad, GK obviously CB (possibly 2 if JD as reported is still having pain in that knee) DMF (Denilson isn’t crap but he doesn’t care which is worse) Chamakh and someone anyone who can cross. Chamakh is confirmed for free. I truly believe Wenger will recruit a GK the mistakes must be hugely embarrassing to him he MUST know. CB is an obvious and clear need he’s already said it himself. That means at least 3 signings in key positions for sure, not a bad start. I’m just hoping he also looks at the DMF spot as well, and maybe hires Beckham as a crossing coach, not a bad idea and we certainly could do with Keown or Adams back at the club to drill the defense. A lot of the mistakes made weren’t down to ability just basic defensive discipline. Unfortunately I’m still not sure all that will be enough to tip us over the edge. We need one or two outright warriors like Sol who would rather die than loose to the Spuds. This team is far too nice. I’d don’t think Cana is the answer but someone like that (like Flamini) they don’t have to be the greatest technical player necessarily but someone who will imprint their “nobody f*cks with us” combative style on the rest of the team.
Yes it’s boring but also just imagine what the Chavs would do without their 7 best players including 3 of their best goalscorers (aka RvP, Cesc, Arshavin). No Drogba, Anelka, Lampard, Malouda, Terry, Carvahlo, Essien. Imagine Man IoU without Rooney, Valencia, Fletcher, Ferdinand, Vidic, Nani, Berbatov. They would all be shit too. Chelsea just lost to the Spuds with practically all of them playing anyway.
Yes we need a couple of re-enforcements and greater strength in depth at certain positions but we can’t expect us to have another Fabregas, another Van Persie just sitting on the bench waiting for an injury so they can play. If you think Chelsea and Man U do you are mistaken.
I don’t like the amount of time this team has taken to be assembled whilst chucking the cups and winning nothing every season but looking forwards not letting anyone leave besides the defenders who we know are already going and upgrading the likes of Denilson and Diaby so the don’t see as much game time and we will be getting there in terms of overall squad depth needed. I think the biggest things that will help are a re-discovery of winning games against big teams (traditionally an area of strength even when we’re shit overall) adding some kind of personality that will see the nasty side of these young players come out and finally sorting the shambolic defense out with new personnel and hopefully a new voice on the training ground.
Over to you Mr Wenger
(That was quite long, thanks for reading if you made it this far!)
The quality of the new players are not as important as the mentality, i want winners!!!!
Players that can push our current players to work harder and getting better…
Of course the new players can’t be worthless in a quality sense but they don’t have to be world class either…
wrightys article is spot on, the most obvious question we all want to know, and many pretend to think they do know the answer to is….. why have we gone down this route ie. project youth
simple but crucial, is it wengers stubborness or the board, i think its a bit of both, but if it is the board then wenger has taken alot of the flack for it and the board should never have allowed that to happen
either way its a bad situation we find ourselves in and it needs sorting, make or break summer coming up
I would like to see a player that can shout at Denìlson when he doesn’t track back hard enough after losing the ball…
A player that works up the crowd/fans, (Cesc and Campbell aren’t enough)
We need robbie savage.
Let me just remind you Mark Gooner, that Barcelona are having the same Project Youth, though they have come much further, it was started by Johan Cruyff i think…
If you look at their team, they have loads of players that has come from their own youth system (the likes of Puyol, Piqué, Busquets, Iniesta, Xavi, Pedro, Bojan, Jeffren, Valdes and Messi!
If a project youth system works it could be awesome…
Still of course you need to buy some experienced players too…that is a given…
Also Ajax has that same youth system…i bet Cruyff had something to do with that too…
i must be getting boring now…just made a hattrick…
pedro heres the problem. The board are as frightened of Wenger leaving as the AKB brigade.
make that a quadrouple…
Cahill, Metszelder, Hangerland, Subotic, the list goes on and on, What about Blaise Matuidi as Compotision for Song. freys Ok. or Sorenson until chesney comes good
Messi is Barca for life, for those of you who don’t know his life story look up his hormone replacement treatment. Messi is a midget for a striker…..and strangely enough it’s the shorties that are wonder players, like Maradona, or Romario….but anyway look up his life story. barca paid for his hormone treatment when he was a boy, if they hadn’t, he would never be the player that he is, he will NEVER EVER leave Barca just in case anyone thinks he might.
We need players who are star players at their clubs, and their clubs are going nowhere.
if we had off kept kolo and ade in the squad and added given and barry for fifteen million we would off ran away with this title,given would maybe even off been enough,five measly million,shame on wenger and the board.
@RayGooner good point about leadership in the middle of the park. With Patrick and Tony we had that. They could, and did, make a difference by force of personality. That we miss big time.
As for La Masia … Barca have the whole of Catalonia to populate their academy while we have a tiny bit of North London. (Catalonia is larger than both Scotland and Belgium with seven and a half million inhabitants and little sporting competition to football). We simply don’t have the same catchment. They also have politics, culture, and an anti-Madrid history to help them. So we have to build our youth differently and with greater competition.
And BTW a quick look at Barazite playing last night might just encourage you. He’s no Messi … but AW could do lot worse than throwing him onto the bench for Fulham.
of course it hurts when the team loses, who wouldn’t be pissed off? but wenger is still the Main Man. we are going through a difficult period, granted. but there have been over-riding factors contributing to that. of course wenger has made mistakes as well – but there are not many who haven’t. wenger has earned the right to our full support and anything less is disloyalty to the Arsenal.
Good post, but i dont see how Eboue is too old to be back up, if he wants to leave then fair enough, but it is not necessary for us to sell him.
Just youtube’d France World Cup 98 and Euro ’00, we have two and 5 players respectively with each of those squads. Now I predict France to be dark horses this year but our calibre and quality of player is no longer here like we used to have.
SAd to see.
Anyways on what we need;
Everyone even probabaly the thickest person in the world Jamie Redknapp can see we need a new Goalie a centrehalf, a midfielder and a forward.
I would like to see,
1 GK – Lloris/Pele anyone but Green
Most likely Argentinas Romero of AAlkmaar.
2 Centreback – Resign Campbell, promote Bartley but we still need somebody, talk of Mexes on the move will alert Wenger but we need someone who will adapt quickly, however I believe it will be one French out in Gallas- one in Mexes.
3 Midfielder- M.Sisokho of Toulouse is my Favourite and I believe most likely, tall and powerful box to box player. others mentioned Matuidi,Gago,Rodwell
4 Striker Chamakh signed and delivered.
Sagna is still one of the best defenders in Europe probably behind Alves and Maicon for RB,Clichy is a lesser version of Evra ( which is not bad),Vermie is excellent, Cesc,Song,Diaby are all good enough but complement them with Sisikho and we have a fearsome midfield,Nasri,Theo,AA23 are all very good options for the wide positions, up top RVP for half the season,Nik and Chamak for the other half is fine by me.
So you can see a core there thats already in place but needs adjusting by 4-5 purchases to make the squad/team stronger.
I would loan EDS so as he can return to his best form, maybe to Toulose as part of the Sisokho deal or try Bordeaux for Gourcruff plus EDS in a deal.
Rosicky I’m willing to take a chance on and keep another season, let him get preseason under his belt,sharpen up and hopefully show us the old Tommy Rock.
I love this blog, always says what I am feeling.
Everyone is talking about the reserve game, does anyone have the highlights to it?
Pedro, what the fuck man. What a fucking gloomy post. Too bad EVERY word of what you write is true. SAD.
Not the way I wanted to start my day.
Plus, what did Denilson do to make him such a twat? He looks a decent bloke.
Fuck man. I’d managed to clear my mind of the shit that our club is in right now. That post is bang on the money Pedders!!
No way will anyone ever give Wenger the boot. The only way he will be leaving is by force of the fans or of his own accord. I’m predicting another shit year of project marmite/youth and then he’ll fuck off and leave us to pick up the pieces whilst he’s spending his grossly over paid salary. Cunt.
If i wenger this is what i will do.
first thing i’d sell with be the Emirates..then my team will look like this
Lloris
sagna vidic vermalaen clichy
essien
Xavi Fabregas
Messi Rooney Rvp
Too much firepower for any team
Notice how all of our French bastard players have stopped playing since we got knocked out of the Champions League?
Sometimes I think Myles Palmer has a point when he says players like Nasri only raise their game for Europe when they know their mates are watching them from back home.
Emirates: 400 mil
vidic: 20 mil
Lloris: 15 mil
Essien: 30 mil
Xavi: 40 mil
Messi: 150 mil
Rooney: 100 mil
net: 45 mil for wenger to splash on wages… sorted
Sell the Emirates? lol
Yeah Zues sell the emirates… and throw in a brand new trophy cabinet as well
Fuck sake. I cant understand the constant slatting of Walcott…he’s had an assist or a goal in just about ever game he’s played for us for the last 2 months!
A&N, that is the most stupid shit I have heard, Myles is a dick and that statement is ridicules. Clichy has been one of our best players. Sagna has been solid every game. Silvestre has always been shite and Nasri even thought didn’t influence the game much did try hard, you could see it.
do you think they installed a trophy cabinet
i’m sure they did…wenger tells us every season that this team is capable of winning 1… and it’s probably a big cabinet considering we only go for the “big” trophies
gael clichy has ruled out a move to Barcelona this summer, insisting he is happy to stay put in England and challenge for honours at Arsenal.good or bad new
I think its a myth that Sagna is a solid defender. He doesnt often get beaten 1v1 but he makes mistakes a bit too often. He was at fault for Bales goal against the spuds. Thats the only one that springs to mind but im sure there are more.
Im not saying he is shit because its easy to look like a shit defender at arsenal, especially with who he plays with and the emphasis but on organisation here but still…he isnt as defensively solid as most think.
yeah the emirates cup
sagna gets caught out because there is no communication what so ever
Good that he is committed BBK, but bad because he seems to have gone crazy if he thinks he will be challenging for honours.
Its also a trust issue. Sagna overcompensated when dropping deep because he knew Silvestre was shit and thought he would have to do everything himself. In the end it just made Silvestre get caught out because he has no pace, anticipation or anything a good defender needs.
Yeah Stu. He got terrorised by Moses too on sunday
Clichy “one of our best players”?
Call me old school but a defender that causes goals to be conceded consistently cannot be one of our best players.
Yes clichy looks good when he carries the ball and flies down the wing, but where has that ever got us?
When was the last time he had an assist, goal or even a successful cross?!
Agree with BBK, I would blame Silvestre more for that goal.
TGITuesday. Time for some jkes to lift this gloom. Anyone?
could you imagine what we would be like with the original back 5 and our attack now.jheeeeez
A&N, he has been our best for the past few games…he did have a very serious injury and just came back from it and started picking up form. Shame the rest of the team were so toothless.
last time clichy had a successful cross was at the cottage when bayor scored that brace
it’s obvious clichy can’t cope defending that side on his own he needs help,that is why wenger needs to sign someone who will work back to help him out.
Duke,
I like Clichy, he has a good attitude. His pace down the wing is exciting to watch but lets look at the stats.
When was the last time he had an assist, goal or a successful cross????
I would clasify Clichy as one of our best players. He is very energetic…thats about it. He doesnt have the best technique, he is about as un productive as any player in the squad and isnt the best at defending.
To me he is a fantastic middle player.
In the attacking third he is awful. Cant shoot, cant cross and rarely is he involved in a goal.
In the defensive third he doesnt have great positioning and makes a few too many goal costing mistakes.
HOWEVER, he is one of the best players in the works at running 50yards down the left wing and then doing fuck all when he gets near the box.
This is not funny, but I didn’t realised that the prostitution ring involving French players ahd to do with children. WTH is going on.
*i wouldnt clasify Clichy as one of our best players.
I dont remember his last assist, maybe his assist for Wilshere in last seasons pre season against Stuttgart? His last goal (and only ever goal) was via a double deflection against Stoke. HIs last successful cross i can remember is at the Nou Camp when Bendtner hit the post.
In the overall scheme of things isn’t Clichy the kind of player we are asking for. One who may not possess the best technique but actually shows heart and fight.
i think the only one that will become as successful as a.c. is kieran gibbs if clichy has a shite season next season gibbs will take his place and we won’t look back.
A&N, I agree sometimes he has shit crosses, but sometimes he has great crosses and there is no one there to score them. So many times he looks up and there isn’t anyone there. I would blame more our strikers for his poor stats in that respect.
He does handle some good wingers though. I am not scared with some of the best right wingers lining up against him. I remember how he had Ronaldo in his pocket for a whole game.
The only time he gets caught out is because no one covers him on the left when he overlaps. It’s the system which contributes to you thinking he is not that good. In reality an excellent player. But that is just my opinion.
zeus, I will give you one, but I pissed myself from it:
“Torres out for the rest of the season”
So that makes it a straight race between Labour and the Lib Dems.
Maybe Zeus, but we are also asking for a player thats not wasteful going forward and solid/organised at the back.
Zeus why do we have to choose between being good and being hard working?
Can’t we have both…all of the other top teams have both!
Duke
Clichy is an accident waiting to happen, usually gets roasted against any decent RWinger, also if you look back last 3/4 years games that mattered clichy has cost us with mistakes time & time again, i put him in the same bracket as Clownmoonia, personally i prefer traore bigger stronger, mental strengh, clichy is a pussy. Paper talk earlier in the season said Real madrid wanted him for £16m in summer, wouldn’t think twice about selling him.
Arse&Nose
Yes. But to my mind Diaby is good, we’ve all seen that this season and Rosicky nad Nasri are good but they do a whole lot of nothing.
We need a few artisans in this team, too many artists that don’t do a whole lot fill our team.
Gibbs is much more productive
in the few games he played he was solid defensively, and showed good link up play in the final 3rd, he also has a great shot on him.
zeus Says:
April 20, 2010 at 15:40
Arse&Nose
“Yes. But to my mind Diaby is good, we’ve all seen that this season”
No we haven’t. What the fuck has he done that stands out so much? And his very odd good performance is always, always followed by 4 poor ones and then 5 out injured. Get shot of the mug!!
Both Traore and Gibbs are more productive than Clichy. Fuck, even Silvestre is more productive..
Gibbs WILL be our starting LB before the 10/11 season has finished. Fact.
Zeus, look at the top top players in the world
Messi, Xavi, Schnieder, Ribery -all of them work their fucking socks off
Our artisans need a kick up the backside and need to learn how to run!
I think Clichy will have a great season next if the right people come in to protect him from the left wing, Arshavin is too lazy, proper CB’s, not Silvestre, and a DM to break up play. You can only be as good as the people around you. Cesc wouldn’t exactly have that many assists if he was passing to Titus Fuckin Bramble, only Almunia can make that fucker score.
But I agree, I think Gibbs might overtake him. But that is what I see as our problem. I think Clichy is a good player but many people want him replaced by a kid who might or might not be as good as him and wait for a few seasons to see if it happens.
IS Tony Cascarino a cunt or not?
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2557/news/2010/04/20/1886975/tony-cascarino-arsenal-target-marouane-chamakh-is-a-poor
Samir Nasri feels it is “annoying” Arsenal will not get the credit they deserve following another season without silverware.
The France international believes Arsene Wenger’s policy of not just simply trying to buy the title should be applauded.
The Gunners threw away any chance of hauling themselves back into the championship race after allowing Wigan to recover from 2-0 down to win during a dramatic final 10 minutes at DW Stadium on Sunday.
The post-mortem into another campaign which promised so much yet again failed to deliver a trophy to Emirates Stadium has already begun – with Arsenal legend Ian Wright claiming Wenger’s side “needs some major surgery” if they are to emulate the achievements of his former teams.
However, Nasri, 22, maintains the Gunners are heading in the right direction under Wenger, who has yet to commit to a new deal past the end of next season.
“It is annoying. The work we do is not getting the credit it deserves because we are not winning silverware,” Nasri told the May edition of the official Arsenal magazine.
“It is unfair because I think we have more merit as a club than those who have built their teams with millions of pounds whereas Arsenal have brought in young footballers, who have come here to play a certain kind of football and who have developed.”
Nasri added: “This season has proved that we have everything to compete and we have learnt so much.
“I am hoping that our squad will stay unchanged because we are really good and with a year more experience, we can achieve some great things next season.”
Wenger saw his options limited at various stages of the campaign by injuries to key men like Robin van Persie, captain Cesc Fabregas, Andrey Arshavin and Theo Walcott.
Nasri – who himself recovered form after suffering a broken leg during pre-season – believes things would have been different if Arsenal had been able to send out their first choice XI on a consistent basis.
“Injuries happen and it is part of football, but I think if we had not had those injuries, we would be top of the Premier League and still in the Champions League,” said the French midfielder.
“Apart from Arsenal, I do not know a team playing without five of its best players in the quarter-final of the Champions League like we did against Barcelona and to be in such a high position in the league.
“Our injuries are always serious. They are not small muscular problems, and that gives more credit to our season.”
Wenger certainly has some thinking do on how he looks to take the team forwards next season.
Most notably in defence, given veterans Sol Campbell, William Gallas and Mikael Silvestre are all out of contract.
Morocco striker Marouane Chamakh, though, looks set to finally arrive on a free from Bordeaux.
Nasri believes the 26-year-old would prove a good acquisition.
“It would be a great signing for us. He is a player that I really like,” said Nasri,
“Chamakh plays for the team, gives everything and works very hard.
“He has big potential and would fit perfectly in our team.”
Arsenal are no doubt preparing for another summer of speculation over whether captain Fabregas will remain at the club, the Spain international currently battling to be fit from a cracked bone in his leg in time for the World Cup.
The 22-year-old’s father has also found himself drawn into the saga, with Francesc Fabregas senior denying reports he had a meeting with Real Madrid director general Jorge Valdano.
Arsenal’s goalkeeping position would also appear to be up for grabs, given both Manuel Almunia and Lukasz Fabianski – who endured another birthday to forget as his glaring error gifted Wigan an equaliser – have each been prone to more than the odd mistake which proved so costly.
Almunia missed Sunday’s match because of a wrist injury, but is expected to be back between the posts for the visit of top-four hopefuls Manchester City this weekend.
jury out on gibbs for me, better than clichy going forward making runs & crossing, can’t defend not strong enough gets muscled, hes played there a few times in big games ie: Champs league semis last season cost us in both ties.
I dont get this myth about full backs needing protection. Who protects Cashley? Who protects Evra? Its about midfielders driving the team forwards and relieving the defense of some pressure but not to actually do their jobs for them.
What we need is a LB in the mould of 23 year old sol campbell that can defend like Evra with the pace of Walcott.
Fuck me, Chamakh couldn’t be any less Ronaldo!! What is he talking about. The only similarity is that they both enjoy coming in from wide. Chamakh isn’t the skilful step over type player and Ronaldo isn’t the fox in the box type player.
B.B.K. – I guess this is the time where all of the players who are potentially at risk of losing out to new talent start to kiss Le Boss’ arse!!
Both ties jay? He slipped once. Silvestre was at fault for O sheas goal at OT.
And he is 19 ffs. How can you expect him to not be muscled off the ball.
ha ha true t.a.i.g
If I remember correctly most people said Gibbs was one of, if not the best Arsenal player on the pitch in that CL Semi 2nd Leg especially after his slip that could have ruined him mentally!!
SO Jay, according to you we need a 6ft2 14 stone left back. Good luck finding one of them.
that cunt cascarino is comparing him to ronaldo because he sort of looks like him
taig, just because he looks like a greasy cunt.
Yeah bbk, thats the only similarity. Carcarino is a retard anyway…he knows absolutely nothing about football other than what he is told by the voices in his head.
bbk, great minds
They have far more simularities Tony like their love of Brylcreem
Nasri should keep him mouth shut about stuff like that. He doesnt want any new players because he knows he played like shit for most, if not all, of the season and is afraid he will get knocked down the pecking order.
So Nasri is hoping thesquad remains unchanged because a year experience bla bla bla……zzzzzzzzz. STFU Nasri. No doubt he is apart of the Church of Arsene.
The only ones that can change Wenger’s mind are the players forming a United front and telling him to buy, but this mug accepts Wenger’s spin.
They probably even gave him a script to read from b4 this interview.
STu Jay Thomas is 6ft 2 could be 14 stone if we send him to McDonald s for the summer, plays LB
I am off, take care, till tomorrow.
Enjoy your evening.
just been reading through posts today, I don’t agree with Queen of Surburia
As in Jay Emmanuel Thomas Rocky? He is awful at defending.. good joke though.
N A S R I
S T F U !!! i find it annoying that we are paying to watch you fuck up, grow a pair.
Robert Pirès was born at Rheims to a Portuguese father and Spanish mother. did anyone else know that?????
NO
The only way Wenger is changing his policy is if we don’t renew until just b4 the transfer window closes after he makes purchases or if the senior boys, RVP, Fab4, AA23, Sol, Song all step into his office and say
‘WE WANT SIGNINGS. WE ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH ON OUR OWN. THERE, WE SAID, NOW DO YOUR THING.’
Who will shut the door on the way out zeus?
Robert Pires wore the same underpants until Arsenal lost!!
unbelievable!!!
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_6105547,00.html
Ok maybe the fans will start renewing their season tickets when trophies are a priority!!
reggie57
Hehe.
stu
i think you’ll find gibbs was at fault for 2 goals in both legs in last years semis against the Mancs , and if hes gettin muscled off the ball at 19 as you say he should not b fucking playin , do your research boyo.
I couldn’t be more annoyed with Nasri right, as if his constant doing of a whole lot of nothing wasn’t bad enough.
If he went to Madrid with that attitude they would have sold his ass within the hour.
there is a lot wrong at arsenal!!
Nasri = Little french twat
there is a lot wrong at arsenal Mentally, physically, manager, players, board, assistance manager etc!!!!
For me the best prototype of a left back we’ve got is Traore. He should get 1 month off in the summer only and then get Keown to drill him into the ground.
He is 6′+ good build, much better going forward than Clichy and quick.
The best one in the final 3rd though has to be Gibbs, but that has more to do with the fact that he is actually a left sided midfielder playing as a LB.
Heres your fucking research prick. O shea scored unmarked. Gibbs was on the post so he definately wasnt his marked.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2762220/manchester_united_vs_arsenal_1_0_champions_league_highlights_hq/
*marker
Zues
Spot on son, Traore is the way forward at left back, also when he had his run in the team this season i cant remember losing a game (don’t know if he play ed against the mancs & chavski though.)
Wow stu
U actually went and did research.
The players need to learn to shut up and concentrate on playing football!! There3no exactly setting the world a light!! shut up you mugs!! Put in 100% on the pitch each week then you will have a more of a right to speak!!
stu u know nothing keep reasearching both legs
I wasnt gonna be proved wrong Zeus.
What specifically Jamie? Or just my very existence?
GREAT ok lets wait another 5 years for Traore to come good shall we!!
How does Nasri suddenly think he is a homegrown player? In the overall scheme of things, he is an expensive Arsenal signing from the Marseille first team.
Rather self-serving remarks or self-deluding adoption of the training room ideology.
Ok Jay, i’ll go and research a match with 1 goal that i just proved Gibbs was blameless for.
not ‘A’ match u cock , both legs, call yourself a supporter u should be ashamed
Rob green
Traore isn’t some kid. He is 20.
This is moot as Clichy won’t get dropped anyway.
Good one. How about looking back at what YOU said.
“stu
i think you’ll find gibbs was at fault for 2 goals in BOTH legs in last years semis against the Mancs”
He slipped once in the SECOND leg. They scored a free kick and a counterattack goal. Seeing as there was 1 goal in the first leg, which Gibbs wasnt at fault for how do you think he was at fault for 2 goals in both legs?
Zues, if Rooney qualifies for Young player of the year at 24 then i think we can clasify Traore as a kid. But maybe not because Traore isnt a fat english scouse who’s gonna win the WC single handedly.
Stu
Yeah. How is he considered young at 24. Come on.
Zeus, also consider that Rooney has been playing first team football for at least 6 season i think its doubly unfair that he qualifies for Young player of the season.
The age limit for that should be lowered anyway because im assuming that when it was set there werent many teenagers playing for first teams. Whereas now every team has them, either starting or as a sub.
I honestly don’t know how recent these comments are but,
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2557/news/2010/04/20/1886623/arsene-wenger-jokes-arsenal-are-ready-to-sign-real-madrids
there you go.
Ok here goes…This is what I would do in summer
Out:
Silvestre(Obviously)
Senderos(Wenger has given up on him)
Gilbert(and other reserves like him who wont make it)
Selling some of the reserves in Gilbert’s bracket could get us a 10-15 mil to help buy better players who are ready to contribute now….
Gallas(Will possibly decide to leave)
Loan:
Fabianski(Because it seems Wenger belives in him)
He must go on loan then, because he is guaranteed to fuck up our season next year if he is promoted)
Wilshere: Give him one full year at Bolton after that he will be ready to come back and contribute
Vela: Send Vela to Bolton they only have 2 established strikers…Klasnic is only there on loan.. He and Wilshere can keep each other company and get significant playing time to develop..Imagine Vela playing off Davies or Elmander, I think he would score alot…..
Almunia must become our number 2 keeper, Manone number 3 as usual
In:
1 CB – Zapata/Ciani etc(We need a big strong quick CB)
1 powerful/energetic box to box MF/DM -
Melo/Sissoko/Matudidi/Inler etc…..
1 Gk – Sebastian Frey
Optional 1 winger – Hazard/Elia etc…..
It terms of formations we should play 4-3-3 for the first team….but our second 11 should play 4-4-2 I will map them out…
Theo needs to start his conversion to a CF…
Eddy and Bendtner need partners in attack..
Ok first 11
…………………….Frey………………………
Sagna……..Gallas/New CB……….Vermy………Clichy
………………….Song…………………………
…….Cesc…………………….New DM/box-box……
…Chamakh………….RVP……………..Arshavin…..
Second team(FA cup and CC cup)
…………………..Almunia…………………….
Eboue……..Djurou/New…………Sol……Gibbs/Traore
Nasri……..Denilson……..Diaby…..Rosicky/New winger
………………Bendtner…….Theo/Eddy……………
Denilson and Diaby should make a decent pair in the Fa cup etc..as both are box-box types so when one attacks the other defends…maybe they will learn more covering for each other….Nasri plays better on the right than left it seems….then Rosicky and or the new winger will play the left flank….Theo or Eddy to play off Bendy…
Lets use this team and fucking go after the Fa cup and the CC cup to a lesser extent since Wenger doesnt rate it…
Ramsey should play in the reserves when he comes back.
watch the clip stu FREEMAN oshea gets the ball on the wing no marking by let me guess GIBBS passes to tevez nearly scores resulting corner goal. Oh no gibbs fault maybe .YES now shut up u moaning bitch.
Hahaha you dumb fuck. You expect Gibbs to cover the winger AND their full back. You obviously have no understanding of football if you expect 1 player (especially a young one) to be able to defend against 2 players at the same time as well as stopping any passes they make.
Anyway, im bored of this. I’ve already won and you’re just making youself look even thicker than you are. Im off…
stu i proved hes at fault for both it quite obvious UR A COCK, it still remains gibbs should not be arsenals 1st choice left back next season and he will not b enough said.
JA
Almost none of those will happen. I like some of it though. I like Hazard a whole lot but I think you’re looking at the wrong Edin. Dzeko for me.
I’m sick to death of having to listen to the ‘If RVP wasn’t injured’ excuses and we know he will be gone next season as well.
Dzeko could pick up the slack, especially when we consider that goals are gonna win us the PL cuz Wenger has no time for defence. Just outscore the oppo.
I think Diaby will play very well in the World Cup alongside Las Diarra and Gourcruff.
I have France as dark horses as if you look at their team it will take one hell of a team to beat them.
________________Lloris
SAgna_____Gallas___Albdal___Evra
___Gourcruff___Diarra___Diaby
Ribery________Anelka____Henry
Subs Benzema,Nasri,Sisokho,Diarra endless talent
Especially if Torres is not match fit for WorldCup I think it may come down to Messi V France.
Rocky
Did you watch the qualifiers at all?
If France is to even reach the next round they would have to improve exponentially.
Henry is WELL pass it. They even booed him in a recent friendly. Booed him off the pitch, in France, the same stadium where they won the WC.
Rocky Pires…Diaby wont start because Toulalan will play…..so it will some combination of Toulalan, with one or two of the Diarras…
Then Gourcuff will be the playmaker with ribery on one wing and maybe Thierry the other…
They dont play 4-3-3 in that shape anyway…
Maybe they will play like this
4-2-3-1
………………..Back 5…………………………
………….Toulanan…………A.Diarra/L.Diarra…….
..Govou…………….Gourcuff……………….Ribery
………………….Henry/Anelka/Gignac…………….
What a disgrace, Henry Caught doing Cocaine
http://www.footballtransfertavern.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Henry.jpg
Henry cant play on the wing anymore….he can only play as a CF where he will do less running…..
So for me Henry would not be a guaranteed starter in this World cup..its time to start phasing him and Anelka out of the team…time to start using Gignac and Benzema….
traoré won’t make it. Gibbs might
spain would destroy france with or without torres
Also Wenger really needs to watch how Barca defend and incorporate that into our game…
We are not the type to sit deep and defend….Chelsea and the bottom and mid table teams know how to do this…
Manure also know how to do it sometimes….
But if we tried that we lose 10-0…..
We need to defend from the front like Barca and force teams to cough the ball up quickly…we should apply that 7 second rule that Barca uses….
Barca have perfected it..but we need to start incorporating it…
Barca are so fucking good at it though that they are the only ones I see who can potentially beat it….I have seen some teams try against Barca but the Narca players play some quick one twos and beat the traps…they are so intuned with each other that they make blind sideways and backwards passes and their teamates are there 90% of the time to collect the ball…they have amazing understanding
True Ja but when they were under pressure and needed to score V us Ireland in qualiifers which I seen both legs they reverted to 4-3-3, the only thing that will hold back this France team is Domenech. They have simularities to the team that won in 98 whilst Henry is getting old, his experience will be invaluable ala LeBlanc and Dessaily in 98.
Henry is not yet a spent force and will go out with a bang.
The 4-3-3 is widely regarded as a more positive and best suited option for the Frnech by many pundits and the public however there are also concerns as to who is picking the team Domenech or Henry?
someone asked a question earlier. tony cascarino is indeed an 18 carat cunt
Slightly off topic… But has anybody else noticed that E- boo-boo e has not signed a new contract so will be available for free this summer…. I’m not sure But doesn’t it seem that a lot of first teamers( Especially Defenders) this season have not resigned any new contracts? Has Arsene by any chance forgotten that defence is a part of football too….??
1. Eboue
2. Campbell
3. Silvestre
4. Willy G
5. Fran Merida
6. Senderos
That is 20% of a squad of 30 that we have.. Wht the f is Ivan doing????
One big diff with 98, NO ZIDANE. Gourcuff is an okay replacement.
I think Eboue signed an extension last season Nix…but i could be wrong.
nixkix
I hardly saw that.
The official website is running with ‘weird and wonderful Johan Djourou.
GM… a wife beating cunt to i believe!?
@ QoS
I’m pretty sure he hasn’t read bout a comment from him a couple of weeks ago saying He might move to Roma come summer coz he’s on a free since he hasn’t signed a new contract… I’ll do some digging to confirm it though…
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/821075-emmanuel-eboue-may-leave-arsenal-as-he-stays-silent-over-roma-rumours
Not too sure bout the source… some claim he still has 1 more year left on his contract
That would be something though. We extend contracts for every tom, dick and harry from midfield to forward and not take 1 defender into consideration.
A sign of how defending is viewed at the club perhaps?
I think it’ll be all over the press if he was up this summer…stranger things have happened though.
@ zeus 17:28
hardly saw wat?
dunno about his contract but did find this…
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/eboue-i-d-love-to-be-the-new-eddie-murphy
so he can fuck trannys!?
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result…
Wenger is getting very close to crossing this line…
NiXkiX – The worrying thing is that we have renewed 17 contracts since May 2009 so if they didn’t get extensions, who the fuck did!! Kids like JET who use it to buy £100k sports cars and drive them without even having a fucking license! Good one Arsene!
JJ are u sure he hasn’t already
lol
i heard last summer that eboue was to be booted out with kolo and ade but begged for one more chance and got it hence why he’s still here.
would be silly to loose him on a free though, he’d easily get us 5m
That one really really bugged you didn’t it TAIG??!
nix
That none of defenders were getting extensions. We extended something like 18 contracts if memory serves me. Can’t believe a defender wasn’t in the mix.
From what I understand Wenger blamed Eboue for the Barca goals in the Champs league finals…
Sign!!!!!
i”m just sad… becoming an year older doesn’t help either….. 
QoS – Like most of Wenger’s decisions, yeah…….
I’ve just given up hope… Looking forward to an era of Arsenal without Arsene… Frank Rijkaard anyone?
QofS… really… most people blamed the useless fucker between the sticks!
It is quite sad but yes, just poor quality at the end, too many kids playing top level…
QoS not too sure bout the Barca game but he definately cost us the wigan game. He was the guy supposed to be marking Watson for his goal.. watch the video’s and u’ll see
and a bit harsh as only one came from his side
The usual – not tracking runs. Its something of a recurring theme.
Rijkaard, Bould whoever.
What of Neil Banfield. Is there any reason why people just automatically look to Bould instead of Banfield?
Zeus
I think thats because Neil has been around Wenger for far too long… Something about bad influences comes to mind
i thought it was diaby that let watson go?
@ Arsenal Tom
I’m sure it was eboue who was tracking him till the ball went out wide
NIX.. maybe your right, i though as he came to the edge of the box he’s next to diaby then when he moves diaby gets drawn to the ball!?
either way it was shit defending…. again
“We are not far away. We were fighting for the championship and missed the key moments against Barcelona to knock them out of the Champions League quarter-final.
gm
I know as if barca were ever in doubt of getting past us.
Oh remember guys about the squad limit coming into effect next season..25 with 8 home grown…..
Supplemented by any amount of u21 players
The squad i suggested is bang on 25 if you exclude the new winger……also we could loan out Traore again to make space if Arsene feels we need a new winger…..
…………………….Frey………………………
Sagna……..Gallas/New CB……….Vermy………Clichy
………………….Song…………………………
…….Cesc…………………….New DM/box-box……
…Chamakh………….RVP……………..Arshavin…..
Second team(FA cup and CC cup)
…………………..Almunia…………………….
Eboue……..Djurou/New…………Sol……Gibbs/Traore
Nasri……..Denilson……..Diaby…..Rosicky/New winger
………………Bendtner…….Theo/Eddy……………
Bang on 25 without the winger..
As said before
Our new CB should be someone like
Ciani, Zapata, Hangeland etc…..I dont know hopefully Arsene has someone up his sleeve
The new powerful/energetic box-box player should be one of
Melo,INler,Sissoko,Matuidi, Again hopefully Arsene has a gem up his sleeve
NeW GK, It should be Sebastian Frey, end of story
New winger if any should be Hazard,Elia etc.
I think I prefer Hazard because he seems to be more highly rated than Elia.
And also we can use Manure;s Ronaldo blueprint..We all know that Hazard said his dream clubs are Arsenal and Real..
We should get him now..keep him for six years hopefully get some trophies and then sell him to Real for atleast
40-50mil…..We all know Real will pay the money…so we should go for him now before he goes to a bigger club…he would eventually take over the left forward role from Arshavin….and he can play on either side
I mean 3 players
1 CB
1 powerful box-box type
1 GK
Optional – Eden Hazard
+Chamakh
If we get these guys in and flog deadweight like
Silvestre
Senderos
Gilbert plus others that wont make it
Loan: Fabaianski, Vela, Wilshere, possibly Traore
We will win something next year….we just need 3-4 plus Chamakh and we will dominate
Wenger just do it please…he says adding too many players upsets balance but he should get rid of some dead wood and make space…simple as
If we can get Yaya for the box-box role we should….
………………….Frey……………………….
Sagna………Gal/Zapata………Verm…………Clichy
…………………..Song………………………
…….Cesc………………………..Yaya……….
..Chamakh…………..RVP………………..Arshavin
Thats a good team….
i feel wenger has big mistake not giving merida and vela more playing time i know for afact that merida is alot better delinson.i think diaby and nasri all round has played quite over whole season but the problem is there so few top players in the team these players cant afford have single off game because there is no one else to step up,there is know people say that players like carrick schols giggs lambard maluda dragba have had a bad few games here and there of course they have but there have more depth to there team and 1-2 players have bad day there is always someone else who will step up in there place but this team are in that position.the statement that eboue is to old to play back up i dont agree with at all he is an experienced up and good utility player.
i have of feeling this team new ideas and new coachers not just manager but defensive coachers too.the one thing i have seen from wenger he not manager who is willing listen and change things when needed.who knows wenger may suprise us e all and make some huge changers but i dought it
JA
Oh to be a dreamer. No way in hell is he gonna buy someone to ‘kill’ Diaby. Yaya won’t come and Melo is ABSOLUTELY WOEFUL at passing a must in Arsenal.
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Anyone with line ups for Inter V barca.
Not to mention that Yaya and Song would be off to the ACN every other year.
Zeus…..Yaya wont kill Diaby…..
Yaya is 27 this year….Diaby 24…..
remember our injury list is always much longer than the others…Wenger needs to take this into consideration..
He did not trust a lot of his backups this season..thus he ran some of the first teamplayers into the fucking ground
Gallas, Vermaelen, Cesc……He ran them into the ground cuz he didnt really trust the backup….
When cesc came back from his last injury he played 90 mins in everygame face infection and all….
Diaby is still inconsistent…let him boss the FA cup and learn from yaya…obviously even with Yaya around he could still start 20+ games through rotation and come off the bench if we need a more attacking midfielder…
Similarly Denilson could still start 15+ games in the season..We cant rely on Denilson and DIaby to be our main guys if we are going to win anything..they still have some learning to do Diaby still takes too long to make up his mind on what he will do with the ball.
Hope yaya does kill diaby put us all out of our misery!!
The reason why them players were run into the ground was AW refused to strengthen the squad! had plenty of orportunities but stubbonly refused to do so…
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Eventhough the pictures of the new kits are from a training camp in Dubai, it’s not far from the truth. I’ve seen pictures of both kits (home & away), and our home kit will be red and white like the training picture. The second kit will be yellow and burgundy. (also looking more like the older versions). Don’t know anything about a third kit.
Mark my words (swear on my fathers grave).
Have a good one!
All doubts are now dispelled. The Portuguese has opted for 4-2-3-1 and the same starters who beat Juventus 2-0 last Friday.
Inter: 12 Julio Cesar; 13 Maicon, 6 Lucio, 25 Samuel, 4 Zanetti; 19 Cambiasso, 8 Thiago Motta; 27 Pandev, 10 Sneijder, 9 Eto’o; 22 D.Milito.
Subs: 21 Orlandoni, 2 Cordoba, 5 Stankovic, 11 Muntari, 23 Materazzi, 26 Chivu, 45 Balotelli.
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Barcelona: 1 Valdes; 2 Dani Alves, 3 Piquè, 5 Puyol, 19 Maxwell; 6 Xavi, 16 Busquets; 17 Pedro, 10 Messi, 15 Keita; 9 Ibrahimovic.
Subs: 13 Pinto, 4 Marquez, 11 Bojan, 14 Henry, 18 G.Milito, 22 Abidal, 24 Tourè.
Well Choy for 5 or so games that yaya and Song would miss then Denilson and Diaby can come in and apply what they have learnt..for those 5 or less games….
I mean Chelsea coped really well without Drogba they scored 7 against Sunderland….Thats what squad depth is all about…
Also Zeus/Choy….remember this a world cup year and alot of our players will be exhausted….
Diaby and Denilson wont be involved as heavily..so they will be used to rest and rotate guys like Song and Yaya who will be at the world cup..Diaby might be in Frances squad but he wont be a key player…
Also Cesc should be rotated with Rosicky/Nasri next year..because he will fucking burn out next season…
Hopefully these players will be rested and ready to come in and releive the World cup players when needed
Arshavin, Chamakh, Eduardo, Denilson, Rosicky, Gibbs
Diaby, Nasri, Clichy(lesser extent)
And also we dont know if any of our players will be injured in the world cup……
So Zeus forget about fucking killing anybody…Wenger must access his squad and fill it with quality(25 players) or esle injuries will ruin us once again as either the backups wont be good enough or he wont trust them.
reggie57
hahahaha. Kill, as in DEAD!
I fucking hate the argument about buying player A will kill the career of player B.
If Player B was good enough, he would not need to worry.
In Diaby’s case ultimately the lad has had enough chance to prove his case.
It is time to stop being such a bunch of nice blokes and put sentiment aside. We need to add quality to our starting 11 as well as our squad.
And what annoys me with the younger players is that get 1st team opportunities too easily. When the player in question is like Cesc I dont mind, but when we persist with one like Denilson for 4 seasons with very little improvement, it sucks the balls of a dead donkey. They should earn their place with a series of good performances whenever they get their chance, or preferably on loan.
Zues Yaya is on the bench again….
We should fucking move in for him summer….he must be a little perturbed..I mean Pep really seems to be phasing him out in favour of Busquets….
So I would bo for Yaya with a bid of 12 mil- 15 mil and see what happens….
Ja
Your preaching to the converted here. But I’m sure you know better than to think that Arsene is gonna make 5 buys this summer.
1 keeper if we are lucky. Chamakh and maybe a CB. Thas all folks.
I dont even think it will be that many Zeus
I reckon Chamakh and maybe one more on deadline day if he can get a good deal.
JA
Yaya is so lsow though. Almost no lateral movement from him. Busquets offers something to the system that yaya doesn’t.
I’m not getting my hopes up for any purchase. As Wenger said about ade, you cannot be disappointed if you haveno expectation.
Arsene go for fucking Yaya before the World cup !!!!!!
Pep is phasing him out of the Barca team….
…………………….Frey………………………
Sagna……..Gallas/New CB……….Vermy………Clichy
………………….Song…………………………
…….Cesc…………………….Yaya…………….
…Chamakh………….RVP……………..Arshavin…..
What a team…. excellent mix off guile, size, strength and pace….
Wenger go for yaya please!!!!!!
Diaby would be his backup…he wont kill him…Diaby could learn from him as they are very similar…..
Please Arsene go in for Yaya….he would fit in perfectly…
I mean imagine Cesc with yaya and Song backing him up….we would never be bullied..Yaya is a big guy 6 ft 3 and a bigger frame than Diaby…
We should find out where diaby lives and do the “MARKED FOR DEATH” symbol…
Zues Yaya isnt slow….he played CB against Drogba last year..he also played CB in the CL final with Ronaldo and Rooney to contend with..
He held his own in both times…
He is not slow buy any means…where do you get this slow argument from?
I noticed he seems a lil slower than last year..but he has some injury problems this year maybe that is why he seems slower now…..but once he shakes that off he aint slow..
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JA
The only way we get Yaya is if we give barca 1st option on Cesc.
I am asking for 3 siginings …
i dont count Chamakh..he is free….
If Wenger doesnt realise that he needs 3 signings then he should leave….
Ja
Slow when compared to Sergio I mean. I don’t know. Think thats the reason Pep doesn’t play him.
Chamakh is not freealone. He gets paid wages.
Zues we all know Cesc will go Barca eventually…so thats a nonissue..
I believe Cesc will go when he about 25/26 years old so that he will still have some good years to give Barca…
So I would say we have max 3 more years of him..so Wenger better get some quality players around him and make use of him before its too late….
Ja if YaYa became available he will head straight to Citeh to join Kolo…Wouldnt you?
Maybe but Arsenal has a bigger history so maybe that will sway him…but we should atleast try…
I’ll love Yaya Toure to be in our team…
Song and Yaya Toure in midfield?
Brilliant.
If we were to buy just one player for the summer it would be a Goal Keeper!
And yes… Ja.. I think we need two DM type players, Song is not enough to do all the defensive work.
Ja Gunner,
Hard to argue with you wrt Yaya. But we’ll need alternatives to Clichy and Sagna. They don’t cross well and Clichy is always out of position. We also need a proven winger, not theo
Agree ja AW should try and make the effort!!
I love seeing Barca play! Wonder why we don’t larn from te best? Tonite, I’ll wager Inter may win, especially if they stop Messi
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i hate them barca cunts but i hope they knock that mourinho cunt out of this.
I wish we had bought Robben (25mil) or Sneijder (15mil) from Real last summer. We would be talking about the league and possibly CL still.
Shocking miss by Milito
BBK,
You gotta love them. They play you in their own terms. They press you when have the ball, and most teams give them space to knock the ball around. No move so far from Inter, just hoofing the ball aimlessly. They defend pretty well too. How come they are so motivated to expend so much energy evey match and our pony boys can’t be arsed?
CG,
I think you have answered your own question: ‘pony boys’
fucking bunch of spoilt ‘daddy’s boys’ with too much too early qithout having to work for it…
scoring comes easy to these guys! The special one will be found out tonite
Stupid Idea!?!
Chaps and chapettes, it appears thath there is a lot of discontent amongst fans about the current state of our squad. Now although, I think we have a great manager, I think his pride sometimes gets in the way of us having the right squad and winning competing. I think it is a key point that we are NOT competing anymore, let alone winning anything. We were only really in the title race because the other two have slipped up. So how do we (Arsenals customers) change the way the manager works? We can’t vote with our feet because that would have a detrimental effect on the club that we all love. But, we are all speaking with the same voice and need to do something.. Any ideas? Perhaps petitions? Or something similar? Perhaps boycotting the last few games of the season? We certainly need to speak with one voice and be heard. Perhaps, you all think this approach is too drastic?!? Let’s discuss.. DC
Chamakh is basically free if we sell Eduardo.
If we sell Eduardo, I want Chamakh and another striker
He obviously has no faith in Vela so he does not count
RVP, Chamakh and Bendtner are not enough
was wenger joking abt signing madrid rejects? Cause if he was, he has real bad comedic timing
Pat.. I don’t think we’re getting another striker.
In a 433.. there is only place for 1 or at best 2 strikers.
Messi has benn a complete non-entity in the first half. Barca still dominating possession but Inter had the better chances in the first half.
I hope ‘Wenger the schemer’ is watching. Messi scoring 4 v us is shambolic despite how good he is.
Loving Inter matching Barca’s off the ball work rate as well.
If we have ambition we better get another striker.
I wouldnt mind a young one like Rodellega. He’s abit of a nasty cunt too.
Nor do I Choy
But we need them, and Wenger will fuck it right up all over again.
The past 6 months have shown we needed another striker.
And I would go for Bellamy
he wants out of Man Shitty and he would be perfect on the LH side of that front three.
He is a cock but a fucking talented one who would be a great addition to our squad.
Barca already have an away goal, that does make things easier.
I think I would like to see Chamakh as main striker and move RvP back out to the wing.
Its not feasible to have an injury prone man get battered by the CB’s.
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pat
Bellamy is 31. We all know hes not getting a good contract at Arsenal
Choy
We know RVP is gonna miss a hefty chunk of next season as he usually does.
AA23 is no goalscorer and sometimes can’t be arsed.
Walcott……is Walcott.
Bendtner…..is Bendtner.
Chamakh going from his history is not a prolific goalscorer.
Sell Eduardo, if anyone wants him, use the money to help get Dzeko. Give the fucker Gallas whatever he wants, cuz he shouldn’t be first choice anyway(we still conceded more than last season) get a 26/27 yo defender and keeper.
Thats a
1. Keeper (Frey)
2. CB
3.Chamakh and Dzeko.
I know we need help for Song but as I’ve said we have too many needs to accomplish in 1 window.
I thought chelsea had an away goal as well before getting knocked out by Inter ..
Inter could win 2-1 today and nick a 1-0 result in barcelona
Inter milan have fullbacks that can score.
Im so jealous.
Zeus..
I don’t think Attacking is our priority this transfer window.
We need defensive bodies in there.
We’re already getting Chamakh.. I really do not see another striker coming in.
Inter 2-1. Maicon.
For every player we sign we should be selling someone. Our squad is easily big enough, just not good enough. In some positons we could offload 2 and sign 1.
Almunia, Fabianski…….Frey
Senderos, Silvestre, Gallas, Nordveit……Ciani, Hangeland
Eboue…….DeWiel
Eduardo, Vela…….Chamakh, Remy
I thought Barca were unbeatable
Bellamy is 31 and you are right, maybe the contract would get in the way. Another of Wengers stupid mannerisms that get right on my tits.
As I see it, we have quite a few very talented footballers that simply dont suit the formation we play.
One of which is Arshavin. i think he is super talented but being shoved out left does not suit him. Sure his brilliance will eventually shine with a moment of pure magic, but he does not contribute to the overall team performance as much as I would like.
Another is Theo. I think the lad does have something, but he has been beaten down confidence wise with this ludicrous experiment of having him play out on the wing season after season. Put Theo in a team that will persist and play him through the middle and Theo will excel. he needs to leave Arsenal for his own good.
Sort out the left and right hand side of Arsenal’s front three and we are really going places (especially after the keeper and CB are sorted out)
Like I said we have some very good if not great players in our 1st 11 but in my mind they dont fit.
Choy
Yes it should be our priority. But you and I both know that Wenger does not prioritize defending in eqaul measure to attacking. If we aren’t outscoring the oppo then we are fooked.
RVP in our team to November we average 3 goals a game. Afet he is out, we drop to under 2. We need someone prolific to pick up the slack.
Choy I dont agree to move Chamkh central and RVP wide. We underestimate just how chances RVP creates from a central position, even if he doesn’t score for himself sometimes.
Cant wait for this summers spin
there are loads of players that could easily leave this year
Silvestre
Gallas
Senderos
Randall
Simpson
Hoyte
Denilson
Almunia
Fabianski
And that is players that should definately leave.
We should definately be trying to keep Gallas.
Gambon
I dont agree. We should be letting go of the extreme shit players like Fishface Flappy Sendy adn Djourou. Eduardo maybe too.
That aside everyone else could has role to play. Its just a matter of not having too many passengers per starting eleven.
Don’t agree Gambon
Gallas is way past his best and he has become an emotional welfare case. He cant hold himself together let alone the back four. Not only that but his legs have gone and I have seen a number of very clumsy tackles from him this year that should have resulted in penalties for the opposition.
By Gallas going, it ensures that Wenger should spend big on a partner for Vermaelen. We need to improve defensively and in my mind that means replacing both Gallas and Almunia who are in my mind the weak links. We also need back up for Song, as we simply have no cover.
Love him or hate him, Mourinho is the best manager in the world atm.
Still don’t want him and neither do most United fans I know. There is a thing called tradition, and Mourinho would make Arsenal or United much more defensive.
Hello, I sent you a post on yesterday’s thread complimenting this blog. It was not posted. May I join in on the conversation?
Zeus
Our squad shouldnt be getting any bigger, its already a very big squad.
I would sell a LOT of the younger players that arent quite up to it, and some of the shit senior players.
I would have no problem letting go of;
GK – Almunia, Fabianski
DEF – Hoyte, Gilbert, Eboue, Nordveit, Pedro, Traore, Silvestre, Senderos
MID – Denilson, Randall, Merida, Barazite
ST – Eduardo, Vela, Walcott, Simpson, Murphy
19 players overall, but no-one that would be missed. We would raise over £40m as well.
Pat
I long for the day we have a good defence that concedes 25 league goals per season.
Great goal by Milito
looks offsides…
This is Mourinho beating the mighty Barca and yet some people would rather die before he comes to Arsenal
Pat G
I think Theo on the wings is OK. He’s had either a goal or an assist in the last 2 mntths
See I want a deadly striker with pace…I’m not sure about Chamakh…but I reckon if we get a pacey striker like Rodellege and Hazard.
The first team for the front 3 would be…
Arshavin———Chamakh——–RVP
The next team would be
Hazard—-Rodellega—Walcott
We would destroy teams with lightning pace.
We’d have to score 4 each game .. just to be safe!
Oh, I see my post has shown up. Great.
Just wanted to say that I’ve enjoyed lurking on this blog for awhile.
I’ve been supporting Arsenal for almost 40 yrs, have been a strong supporter of Wenger’s and have been patient during this transition period.
But after the Wigan debacle, I’m now open to the idea that maybe it’s time his contract is NOT renewed after all.
I’m watching the Inter-Barca game and can’t help but think how these 2 intelligent young managers both expose Wenger so starkly for his tactical incompetence.
PTG
They all can’t play through the middle. We go back to 442. RVP undisputed starter. Start him with who, Arshavin?
Then what happens to Nasri. Apparently he is better throught the middle, do we push him out wide.
When does Theo get played, do we drop aA23 for him.
Wenger has dug himself into a hole in that regard. 433 is the best way get as much as our best players on the pitch at the same time.
Inter 3-1. Milito. Inter should be 4-0 up in all honesty. Wenger I hope you are watching.
Same here Gambon, but can’t see it in Wengers tenure.
Not unless things change in his mentality towards the players he brings in, and in who we have looking after the defensive coaching.
What is frustrating is that it should be a target for the back 5/6 players and for the coaching staff as a whole. They are simply failing at the moment.
Not arguing the 4-3-3 Zeus
We just have some players that tend to be automatically picked despite not suiting the system.
You should be building your squad and your best 11 to suit your system, and we keep trying the square peg round hole method.
jeess….Inter showing us how its done. Passion and good tactics….they are willing to lose the ball with long balls and work hard to get it back. Mourinho so far ahead tactically of Wegner its not funny. Yes Barca you are a better team..this is what we are going to do.
Inter are playing Long ball with Barca.
I fucking told you so…we shouldve been doing the same with Walcott
say what you want about Maureen..he is a WINNER…
Arsenal will get relegated with the genius that is wenger
And what I mean by that is
If you had to pick the best player out of Arshavin and Bellamy, you would probably pick Arshavin 99 times out of 100.
However I think Bellamy would suit our system more. It is not always about spunking 20m on a great player. It is sometimes about spending 10m on a player that suits your system and offers the team more.
And I am an Arshavin fan, but he does not fit Wengerball in its current guise
And another that would suit our system
Robinho and I bet he would jump at the chance and probably take a pay cut.
David
Wenger wanted to out-barca barca. He is too cool for school. When barca press so high we should have been content to just padlock the defence and set Walcott free while playing close attention to Messi.
Too much pride in this manager. No wonder people call us barcelona-lite.
If wenger is interested in Madrid rejects he could do a lot worse than snap up M Diarra
To my knowledge bellamy can play on either wings but prefers his left.
I think We would do nicely with signing bellamy but remember pat Arshavin is younger than Bellamy and i think bellamy would have to be content with coming off the bench.
Its not the formation thats the problem we havent had a striker and that cunt Diaby is too lazy to work hard to win the ball back…
PTG
Robinho is pants. Maybe its because I’m of an argentine persuasion, but I’ve never really rated him. Besides he is another Reyes. He needs the sunny climate to shine.
As soon a s christmas comes he is rubbish until spring.
gambon – I suggested we sign Diarra in the summer!
lauren
Welcome to the blog…
Hope you like it on here.
Why is a Portuguese referee in the barca-Inter game? Mourinho is somewhat of a hero in Portugal and the iberian rivalry and what not…
The spaniards have started diving…
Cunts
We are witnessing a clinic of defending.
Im so fucking jealous.
Pep isn’t a tactical genius by any chance and its showing today. He inherited a world class squad and instilled a work rate. Hiddink and Mourinho both showing him up as a chump, because, make no mistake about it, Chelsea battered Barca last year
David,
on form Bellamy would be picked over Arshavin imo. I thought Bellamy would struggle to get games at City this year given the attacking options they have bought in, but his class stands out.
Zeus, Robinho is class. He is just at the wrong club.
Hiddink would be my choice to replace Wenger Pat.
Pat
If anything the ref has been calling the game in Barca’s favor. How many times was Milito flagged for offside when he was on?
Thank you very much, David.
BTW, I’m of Brazilian persuasion.
I think zeus is right about Robinho up to a point.
He’s good, can be very good at times, but never consistent. Nor is he good material for the PL.
And he’s had trouble at every club he’s ever played for, incl. Santos. He causes trouble in every dressing room he’s ever been in.
Interesting. One less and Pep is a chump and shit tactician. Make up your minds guys.
So I guess its a no go for Pep then.
Sweet lord we are so starved of clinical defending and tactics. We Gooners are salivating over Inter performance. What i would’nt give to have that heart and dedication in our current outfit. Imaging Diaby out there. Lucio would pick him up by the back of the shirt and escort him to the sideline and say….trot along son this is mens work…
Hahahah Alves the cunt booked for diving. De-fucking-lighted…prick!
Zeus
Make no mistake…we are NOT barca!
Not even close!
These cunts dont press off the ball and work hard enough in midfield to win the ball back..
Ok Barca have talent yes..but they work hard…
You cant play football like we have already won the game at half time ffs.
Its how the likes of Stoke play against us.
Does not make Pep a mug.
zeus, thats not the ref, now is it?
We had the workrate to match Barca in the first few games of the season. But that stopped and only Wenger knows why.
Maybe the players just decided they didnt want to run too much and Wenger didnt want to give out to them about it.
Dani Alves is a wonderful player but Pep should’ve told him long ago that if he’s going to dive, he should make it more convincing.
Stu, that stopped once RVP got injured. He was a real leader up there. He commanded players to close down.
lauren
youre Brazilian? Any thoughts on Denilson?
So is no one interested in trying to use fan power to get this club back on track? It maybe an ambitious idea… See my post above sent @ 20:21….
or, better yet, Wellington Silva?
If Inter gets 1 more goal in this game or the next tie they are in the final.
We can barely talk to Maureen as it is, when he knocks out the best team in 20 years and wins the CL for Inter in I don’t know how long, we will have to knight him or install him as king somewhere.
As if his bragging before wasn’t enough. Nice to shut up mu annoying barca friends though.
Alves is a wonderful player but he is a fucking cunt. Im actually disappointed that Pep allows his players to get away with such blatant diving, rolling around on the ground and feigning injury. Its cheating and it should be allowed in football.
maureen is a winner,arsene is a nice guy.
its just shocking..
We used to press press press and then we started holding off..
The way we played against Utd was disgusting..
We treated Rooney like he was Maradona ffs.
Well I’m convinced. We are not gonna win the CL while Wenger is here. Too many experienced sides in it to win with kids.
Barca are unbeatable
“Nice” perfectly describes Arsenal at the moment.
From the manager who doesnt want to hurt some players feelings to that gowl who does the announcements at the emirates. We are set up to be a nice day out for the family and its sickening.
stu.. its another tactic
Anybody saw Balotelli after the game?
something needs to be done DC.
Stu
Whats wrong with a nice day out. Anything beats the hooliganism of days gone by.
its true were like fucking thorpe park, how did it get to this?
We could win the CL with a team like;
………….Frey
Sagna Ciani Vermaelen Clichy
……..Song…….Toulalan
..Chamakh….Cesc……Arshavin
…………..RVP
As well as a LOT of work on the training ground.
Nice not having the barca fans blowing up my iphone with their annoying banter.
a nice day out is great but its competitive support, Roy keane was spot on with the prawn sandwich comments, why cant we have the competitive edge and a nice day out?
David, I know that Denilson divides a lot of gooners.
The thing is that he should not be viewed as a traditional DM – he is what Brazilians call a “transitional midfielder” – the same type of midfielder that Melo is on the national team (Gilberto Silva is the DM). In Italy Melo is a classic DM, not on the national team.
It’s a difficult position to learn and to be proficient in. It requires balancing attack and defense. It’s a tougher role than a DM or AM. I do think Denilson has the ability to be a good one — someday. At least, I think he has the skills – I’m not sure about his football brain. Sometimes he shows it, sometimes not.
And I’m not sure he can do it in England, or at Arsenal. He might prosper in Spain or Italy. And I’ve begun to lose faith in Arsene’s ability to teach him the discipline and focus the role requires. Arsene can’t even instill basic defensive discipline, cohesion and awareness in his players – never mind a role that’s much more complex.
Dunga will never choose Denilson because he’s too small – Dunga likes players who look like boxers and basketball players (sometimes to the detriment of the national team).
And yes, agreed re Barca: it’s the WORK RATE WORK RATE WORK RATE that distinguishes them. Tho that’s not the only thing – it is extremely difficult to take the ball away from them. That’s not the case with us.
It’s true we did start the season with a good pressing game – but it fell by the wayside. Now, in a fast-paced, physical league like the PL, the pressing game can be very exhausting and makes our players even more prone to injury than they already are. Not even Barca keep up the pressing game every game for 90+ mins, and their league is less physically demanding. But they don’t have to. Depends on the quality of opponents and how much they’re controlling the game with their possession.
So it’s something we should use with caution and judgment. But we simply have abandoned it altogether for some reason.
Sorry for the long post.
inter passes completed 158
barcelona passes completed 519
so much for possession football
Who said anything about going as far as hooliganism zeus.
This club needs to become more ruthless and less forgiving.
Rip teams apart when we are on top in a match. If a player is underperforming, drop the fucker and bring someone in who is prepared to work his ass off. And that fool who calls out the players first name for the Kids in the stadium to call out the second name. Not to mention he has a voice like a girl. And what about a shit Elvis song. I just dont think it gives off a very professional vibe,
hello
i tip Bayern to win this … and I wouldn’t mind Van Gaal at our club … like at all
well that was a load of bollocks letting that mourinho cunt get the better of them,the ref was a cheat aswee.
waiting to post like waiting for a trophy
“Rip teams apart when we are on top in a match. If a player is underperforming, drop the fucker and bring someone in who is prepared to work his ass off. And that fool who calls out the players first name for the Kids in the stadium to call out the second name. Not to mention he has a voice like a girl. And what about a shit Elvis song. I just dont think it gives off a very professional vibe,”
Everything, agree completely with everything.
I put on my earplugs when that idiot shouts out the players’ first names and when that ridiculous song comes on
Stu
I get you.
Wouldn’t be funny if barca drew their next game and Madrid overtook them and won the league. To go from 6 titles in one calender year to none would be quite astonishing.
im still in the bar when that song comes on, hate it.
That is hoe you play Barca, press them, have a mix and match in your team, hate him but hats off to JM
Astonishing and Hillarious Zeus. Cant stand Barca.
And Mourinho hasn’t lost at home since he was with his first club(not Porto) and they lost 2-3 playing with 9 or 10 men
Dont have a problem with barca just can’t stand their fans.
If they finish trophyless could they really attract Cesc considering we will end trophyless as well? haha
Thats what its come to for me.
That was a great game of football. Mourinho’s teams are not always dire and negative.
never give that cunt credit he’s a slag
the ref was a cheat
Pat
Are you joking? FFS, what is it with this special prick. If he takes over Portugal and win the world cup they will without doubt have to give him the keys to the COUNTRY.
He would be the gr8est.
totally agree BBK … the ref was an absolute idiot
and I fuckin hate Alves for his diving … but that was never a fuckin dive and a penalty doesn’t get clearer then that
the cunt was portugese aswell.
lauren … parking the bus and racing on the break is nothing of new … it worked for them … especially having players like Etoo Sneider and Milito helps a lot … but really no big deal to their game
ps. i really like Sneider, he’s a nonsense kinda guy and always gives 110%, and got a crazy shot
aha … that’d do it BBK
followed the second half on espn live texts.
Dani Alves gets a booking for diving in the area! Sneijder made a mess of the challenge but it’s not clear whether he actually made contact.
Is that accurate about the incident.
yep Zeus. Look at his record against SAF too. Its very, very impressive. He knows how to win, simple as that.
I stand for more than that. Tradition, etc. Many United fans would take him, but they don’t want to become a negative team
zeus is was a bang on pen
Kreshnik
He hates RVP though. Or they hate each other I should say.
Lauren
You are absolutely 1000% spot on. i couldnt agree more with that.
Arsene is less concerned with defending which is why it baffles me that he wants to continue with teaching young DM’s like Song and Denilson.
Personally Song would be my back up and i would buy Classed Experience in there.
I think we can all Attribute the teams laziness to wenger and their inability or unwillingness to work hard.
Last year it was Ade that took the stick when clearly it was Wenger all along.
kreshnik, of course there’s nothing new about it, but it’s highly effective and doesn’t preclude having great attacking players to watch – like Milito, Maicon, Eto’o, Sneijder. Those are great attacking players to have in your team.
And it’s gotten Inter to the semifinal – beating Barca convincingly at home.
Something we certainly couldn’t do.
Barca should defo had a pen 2nd half
Mourinho subscribes to the same beliefs as dunga.
When he was asked why he doesn’t play an espansive game like Argentina did with Riqelme or the gr8 Brazilian sides, he responded by saying that
‘coaches that played like that are experts in losing.’
BBK/Big dave
Like Chelsea should have had 5 penalties last year. What goes around comes around.
zeus … yes … apparently … since that stupid free kick in the euros … that’s the problem with Dutch players … love the Dutch team and been a fan since when I was 6 … but this shit is pretty common with them
You can win with attacking football, but there needs to be immense workrate & discipline.
Michels, Saachi & Guardiola have reached the top with attacking set ups, not many others though.
David, I’ll have to disagree with you re Ade – up to a point.
I agree that AW couldn’t discipline him enuf – but remember that Ade is one of the most improved players under AW’s guidance. AW made Ade into the player he is. AW is incredibly patient with players, far too patient. For AW to have gotten rid of Ade told me a lot.
I agreed with letting Ade go. He was poison in the dressing room (he’s had trouble in every team he’s ever played in). He also did something I don’t forgive: we’re being humiliated on the scum’s home ground (CC semifinal) and AW puts him on to try to salvage something. What does he do? Does he try to rouse his teammates to concentrate, focus and fight? No, he goes over to a teammate and insults him. That’s not a team player.
And he grew lazy. His work rate used to be his greatest asset but he stopped trying last season. Compare his performance in the CL at OT and Ibrahimovic’s. Both were lone forwards isolated up front up against one of the best CD pairings in Europe.
However, only one of them fought for every ball, chased lost causes, busted his gut to win the game. And it wasn’t Ade.
I also think AW thought Ade wouldn’t fit into his new 4-3-3 system, tho I’m not sure he’s right about that. And certainly some of our players find it very hard to fit into that system – like Eduardo.
lauren … yep, totally agree with that … personally don’t enjoy those kinda teams tho
and … Ibra is shit … absolute shite … Van Persie is way above him … if he could only stay fit for a fuckin season
“You can win with attacking football, but there needs to be immense workrate & discipline.”
Agreed — 3 teams have done it this year against Barca: Rubin Kazan, Sevilla and Atletico Madrid.
On Saturday, Espanyol successfully frustrated Barca innto a 0-0 draw with a very tough, defensive game.
If you watch teams like mourinho’s over a season.. you are guaranteed to doze off at least in 10 games.
Its not very attractive.. but it is effective.
kreshnik, believe me, I too prefer positive attacking football. I can’t stand Mourinho’s character and personality.
I despair at Dunga’s choices, tho not all of them.
But we need some kind of compromise between Wenger and Mourinho.
Guardiola has it, tho he doesn’t win all the time with it of course.
lets talk about douglas costa
And I don’t think Ibra’s shit, I quite like him, he’s got some fantastic skills. But I agree RVP is better – more versatile, definitely. He just can’t stay fit!
zeus Says:
April 20, 2010 at 22:03
BBK/Big dave
Like Chelsea should have had 5 penalties last year. What goes around comes around.fuck that chavs deserve fuck all,barca deserved that pen
douglas costa is a very exciting young player but he’s one among a dozen young Brazilian players getting a lot of attention right now – and I fear some of them will turn out to be duds.
zeus are you based in barca
Lauren
Ade’s a cunt and im happy hes gone let me just make that clear. But he was a decent forward for us and scored important goals.
I cant explain his unwillingness to work hard for the team at the business end of the season its similar to all the players now…
For Gods sake…I have never in my life imagined an ARsenal team would park the bus against Wigan atheletic and then to add insult to injury…lose.
Its a Wenger thing. It has to be because who else can you blame…Ade did it…now the whole team seems to be fucking lazy…its a disgrace..but this isnt me bitching…Its just a hard pill to swallow that 1 half of laziness as someone said the other day…1 half of laziness undid a whole season of hard work
Only 10 times. I couldn’t nad can’t watch Inter for more than 10 minutes in almost every game. You can only watch if the other team makes in interesting.
Could you imagine Inter v Inter. Thats like what one uses to torture terrorists.
getting a lot of attention right now – from Europe’s big clubs, that is.
Well Ibra is def not the money barca paid.
Eto is miles ahead of Ibra.
Was that transfer made by Pep or the Board?
remember that lauren … was absolutely gutted … the ade-whore showed that if Wenger wants to he’ll just fuckin do it … his problem is with kids that abide by his rules and don’t cause trouble, with them seems to me like he doesn’t judge pragmatically, unfortunately. Goes back to his fuckin principles that I really like, but are causing a cluster fuck. Get rid of the very worst, 6 to 9 players are there for everyone to see, replace them with 4-5 quality players and win the fuckin league already.
this is england
No. Couldn’t be farther from barca.
I dont find lots of 10m yard passes with zero penetration and awful crosses from the full back particlularly easy on the eye either.
We havent played good football for a long time.
David, agreed – it’s this culture of coasting, choosing which games to work hard at and which ones for which you can just show up, it’s gone thru the squad except for a few players. There’s only one man who can be responsible for that.
ok just wondered as there are a lot of barca based Gooners
choy
Pep sanctioned it because ‘he wanted a plan b’.
In that case just keep Eto’o and buy Chamakh or whoever. You don’t sell 30 goals a season.
choy … my feeling was that he was gotten in by Pep, from what u could tell by the media at the time
That was never a penalty. Sneijder slid in but didnt touch him, Alves saw a leg on the ground and decided it was time to collapse in “pain”.
Gambon
Its a bit unfair we played some attractive footy with Porto.
When we get it right we get it right.
My problem with this team is that bar Arshavin and Fabregas nobody has any clue what to do in the final 3rd.
Its so shocking its ridiculous. Here’s a novel idea.
Why dont you shoot the ball?
zeus … I’m actually pretty happy they did that, and didn’t try to tap RVP … Barca fans are quite hot on RVP apparently … would fuckin hate it if they started trying tapping him … even though I know he’d tell them to fuck right off
lauren-what about wellington,you reckon he will be good for us.
David
Yeah we played some good football in about 10 games all season, mainly vs shit teams, we used to tear apart great teams.
The Porto game was great, but one game out of 50?
The problem is we need to improve in literally every area, but we all know Wenger wont sign more than 3 odd players.
I’ve enjoyed the discussion here, guys, thanks for letting a newbie mouth off. Sorry for the long posts. Ciao for the night.
Plan B?
hehe.. but he sold plan A
Wellington is 16 I think. Its illegal for Brazilians to leave the country b4 16 to ply trade abraod. He is a long way of bbk.
Oh BBK, just saw your post. I’m very excited about Wellington coming to Arsenal, I like him a lot. And he’s physically tougher than Denilson – his brain is sharper, he’s less prone to being awestruck.
ok fine just blank me lauren lollll ciao
Even with our severe injury problems I don’t think we played as well as we could have overall this season.
gambon … this time there is no fucking up … he either signs or goes … and then after he’ll sign he has to instill some sense of discipline
ah my bad you answered me llol
Birmingham away again the culprit this time..
What a shite goal to concede
bbk
Wellington got the boot!
lol gambon
we lost the title at burm
So much for Wenger’s ‘best team on the planet’,the cunts were raped by Maureen.Wenger,you fucking mug,this is what you call tactics,which you havent learned in 14 years,and what you will never learn,because you are too thick as a plank,you retard.
mourinho got it spot on, i have to say
Great Post Pedro!
We are turning into Valencia without the debt. Infact Valencia have a better record in europe.
Sometimes it shocks me that this is the same guy that essembled the invincibles.
jaguar,well said,facts,just the facts.
The problem is not that we arent wining anything.
The problem is that, we are not giving ourselfs a fair chance of wining anything.
We are understaffed at every level. In every competition, because we are suppossed to be competeing at the highest level.
All of our resent success was based on being able to gridout results.
The current team concedes, too many goals and cannt gridout a result.
Great counter attacking football. Hardly see that these days.
zeus wellington silva is 17, and 18 in January, which is when he can join. Brazilians can’t be sold and move to a club in Europe before they’re 18, not 16
We are overstaffed at the CM,Mr B
Fab,Nasri,Rosicky,Arshavin,Denilson.
We have zero width,our wingers are the square pegs in that senile mug Wenger’s obsessions.
I say it again.We wont win anything with that over rated senile mug Wenker.
Wenker bought an unproven toddler in January,when everyone was crying for a striker,who would have won us the premier league.
Fuck off you French waste of space,Wenker.
Spending money on a 16 year old brazilian while we have the 2 worst GKs in the premier league was a bit silly.
The first team should take priority, once thats sorted then strengthen the youths, not the other way round.
Defensive stability, forgot what it means.
isn’t like that though gambon. We didn’t not spend because we lack the money, signing wellington silva had nothing to do with anything else, certainly wouldn’t take priority over the first team
Oh is it A?So,why didnt we sign a striker in Jan?
I am surprised you still believe the crap spouted by that French spin merchant, Wenker.
No idea Jaguar, probably because we waited until the last minute, and it fell through, but whatever the reason, only an idiot would claim that it was because we signed wellington silva!
Striker would have made fuck all difference anyways, what we needed was a centre back, and perhaps cover for song/diaby
inter performed better than arsenal cos they have better players. simples. and their manager had game plan.
thats what you do when you come against better opposition.
our board should demand accountability from wenger for the poor performances. but they wont cos they rely on him to bring home the cashflow.
You are partially right,A.We needed cover for Song,not for that overrated piece of shit Diabolical,that wanker who costed us about 10 points this season.
wenger’s been reduced to a laughing stock..http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1267593/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Change-script-want-happy-ending-Arsene-Wenger.html?ITO=1490
Ashley Cole was suppossed to miss the worldcup. He’s returning for the next game.
Who pays our medical team exactly?
My oh My!
“I feel we have made huge steps forward this year compared to last year and the year before that,” he told the Gunners’ official magazine.
“We are not far away. We were fighting for the championship and missed the key moments against Barcelona to knock them out of the Champions League quarter-final.
“I know we have to answer the demands of the people. But this year I feel we have appeased our fans a lot. We have always shown a great attitude, a great response when needed.
“We have convinced people that we are making progress and improvement. When you listened to people at the start of the season they were writing us completely out of the race, so we have improved a lot.”
Do I need to say who?
disgusting
In fairness jaguar, personal feeling aside regarding Arsenals situation at this time. name calling and rudeness regarding Wegner is over the top and not really on.
Jag
‘m sure you and Pedro had a talk about going OTT in your criticism of Wenger. No need to be nasty.
And I said this already but everything in the post is true but hey, what are we gonna do. Wenger is 60 he can’t really go much longer can he?
Im still sad…and still upset at that Wigan defeat…and my mates are still having a laugh.
Fuck sake…3 goals in 10 minutes against a relegation team.
Am I supposed to be happy they are safe from relegation or what?
Good morning all!
Balotelli has no future at Inter. Snap him up Wenger
How long before the first “Get Maureen at Arsenal” comment?
I reckon the only reason they have dispatched The Ark Royal is to get Geoff back.
“We are not far away. We were fighting for the championship and missed the key moments against Barcelona to knock them out of the Champions League quarter-final.”
Can someone explain to me what key moments they were, coz i must’ve fucking blinked!! Is he really that deluded to forget the first 70 (yes SEVENTY) minutes at our place whare they could scored double figures…..
And as for “fighting” for the championship, i take it he means when we threw the games at Brum, Spudz and most painfully Wigwam, well if that’s his definition of fighting no wonder we always kicked the shit outta the French in the past……
More fucking Arsene FC fucking bollocks, and the saddest thing about all this is that certain mugs on here will buy into it….
New post!
Not one single original or informed thought.
LGKS.
Sorry, Pedro, and you’re the rational one.
Those who can, do. Those who can’t, write a blog and sneer at the doers.