Here with the exclusives, as always, Le Grove can reveal the first official shots of the news kits.
Don’t ask how I got them, but it turns out the American kit makers aren’t too launch bothered about launching through unofficial channels. Why give Arsenal.com the exclusive when you can give it to a blog who’ll give you a fraction of the exposure!
As you can see, Arsenal are back to white sleeves… mainly because we normally have white sleeves. We’re sticking with the Arsenal logo and the sponsor… because we have to. We’re also going to go with a 1971 style shirt to celebrate our 125th year anniversary because I can’t find a colour picture of an older shirt to photoshop.
The away kit runs along similar lines to last years with the addition of some snazzy lightning bolts, a classy spread collar with double stitched buttons for playing those pesky shirt tugging Mancs.
Enjoy the pics… keep em’ crossed that Eboue isn’t too peeved at me for breaching his confidence!
Oops, did I just give away my source?
Anyone caught palming this off as their own exclusive will be sued.
No use trying to hide your face Diaby... busted!
Onto the serious stuff…
After reading the bile spouted by one of the most ridiculous, self promoting, calamitous referee of the last twenty years, plus the revelations long time Grover Chary uncovered over at ArsenalArsenal, I started wondering… why do referees hate us?
Well, an obvious, yet controversial conclusion would be to point out the fact that all referees are English. Yep, it’s in the rules. We don’t allow foreigners to ref our games.
So, the simple solution for Arsenal getting back in the refs good books would be to remove our foreign players and get some good old British stalwarts in. Alternatively, we could send our players on a ‘How to win friends and influence people’ course in the hope they can socialise their way into refs phonebooks. You know, like the United and Chelsea players have done.
Or, we could take a step back and review an earlier line in this post.
‘Yep, it’s in the rules. We don’t allow foreigners to ref our games.’
Yes, you read that correctly, your eyes were not deceiving you.
NO FOREIGNERS ALLOWED
Sorry Mr Rossetti, despite being the best at what you do in the world, despite Italy being a member state of the European Union, you can’t referee today’s game, because you son, are a Johnny Foreigner.
Now excuse me for being ignorant but I thought one of the main benefits of being part of the EU was the freedom to work where you like within the member states?
I thought I’d check the EU website and this is what it says,
‘Firstly, the EU Treaty has always provided for some basic freedoms, such as freedom to work and travel around the EU’
So if that was true, then there is no way I’d find any press releases on the Official Referees website (PGMOL) that contradict EU Law?
Wrong.
“There are no discussions regarding the use of foreign officials in the English game and the Professional Game Match Officials Ltd (PGMOL) has no plans to do so.”
Cast your minds back to last year when UEFA were told by the EU they can’t discriminate on grounds of nationality with players.
“The parliament calls on the member states and sports associations not to introduce new rules that create direct discrimination based on nationality, such as FIFA’s 6+5.”
If the EU won’t allow clubs to discriminate based on nationality, why do they allow the referees association? That stinks of hypocrisy to me.
You’ve got ex-referees talking in the national press about Arsenal’s lack of British players plus the obvious lack of decisions we get in games. Every time Arsene Wenger makes a comment about a bad refereeing decision, there is an article from Graham Poll slamming him. Where are the Graham Poll articles hammering Steven Gerrard after he dives? Where are Graham Poll’s two pennies when Alex Ferguson takes a pop at refereeing fraternity EVERY WEEK!
Seems Mr Poll (and Jeff Winter) is only interested in slating Arsenal players or foreigners… that has to filter down to the referees still in the game. I feel we’re getting a sneaky peak into the mindset/culture amongst British refs when it comes to foreign teams/players/managers.
Arsene Wenger alluded to the close relationship refs seem to have with the Brit pack a few months ago after watching Alan Wiley refer to Rooney as ‘Wazza’.
‘‘I believe for them [referees] to do their job to do their job in an objective way they have to keep their distance as much as possible. From the players, from the English national players and from the managers.’
That statement couldn’t be truer and it couldn’t be any more evident.
Teams with a British core have an unfair advantage over teams that choose to look abroad in their quest for Premiership dominance. This is unfair and by the looks of it, against the law.
How long before someone picks up on this and puts an end to this injustice?
* The Times nicked our Sorenson story a few weeks back, so hopefully, not too long!
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Pedro
Geoff
Wife who puts husband in doghouse,soon will find him in cathouse
Howdy…..
ha ha…….unbelievable! Kind of brilliant though…….
hello tony,
missed u
Morning chaps!
off to read the post,post looks awesome even before reading it…lot of pictures
Morning All
Sabeel – Still a grifter I see…….
Morning all, thanks for the plug Pedders, I have to admit I did the fouls to yellow disparity exercise a few years back and had the same result then – things ‘aint changed for us regarding refs my fellow goons.
from the latest Wenger’s Myopic View…
“But we promised ourselves to give our best in every game until the end of the season.”
thought that was what 60k a week was meant to guarantee.
chary – Just read your article. Good stuff!!
TAiG, cheers mate – that’s my creative writing output exhausted for another year now ! I couldn’t do what Geoff/Pedders do – write on such a regular basis.
Arsenal having “a foreign” squad is the reason why the media and the refs hate us. It’s the reason why they write garbage articles about us.
Spot on post mate!
To be fair though, I don’t know about a national league where the refs are from another country.
Great post, love all the exclusive shirt bullshit. Top top posting.
I want the home kit! Just the way it is
Love the shirts
Nice Article! There has been so much Arsenal hating this season, it really pisses me off.
Is it because we don’t have John Terry ex-captain of England in our team?
is it because we don’t have Stevie G, the best midfielder in the world in our team?
is it because we don’t have Wayne Rooney, decedent of Jesus, and the best player in the world – better than Lionel Messi, better than the traitor Ronaldo?
Is it because Theo has only played 1.645 games this season, and hasn’t scored anymore hatricks for the mighty England team?
Who the fuck knows?
Very good points raised Pedro. I have forwarded to a couple of journos on twitter as well so hopefully someone will run with it…
Which current referee do you guys hate the most?For me it is steve benett
I understand that if Pompey were to go bust, then everything to do with them will be withdrawn…am talking about points gained against them this season….what does this mean for the Gunners, I know United has taken 6 points and seven goals (for) from Portsmouth…this is worrying, any news to confirm/deny this?
Pedro
what a tremendous post,
i just spilled drink i was having on my keyboard,
Those photos are so hilarious
Diaby photo is almost like alein like.
still smile is there after reading the long,because of those nicely imagined snaps..
nice hard work at photoshop,well done..and i have a lot of hands on video tools.
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On the hypocrisy,probably as u said,introducing foreign referees across leagues around europe could improve the image of football,that bias is not seen by us,
it “may” also help to only lessen the chances of fixing scandals like juventus faced,if we get neutral referees.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/gilberto-a-trophy-will-lead-to-more-success
I love Gilberto, hes awesome.
Didnt Wenger say Denilson was like a mix of Gilberto & Rosicky?!!
Whatever…more like Randall & Savage.
tony — Still in that fallacy about me
Yeah gambon.Wenger has made some really stupid comparisons.Eboue and ray parlour!!
Eboue & Garrincha!
sure he didnt say gilberto and sick
‘Teams with a British core have an unfair advantage over teams that choose to look abroad in their quest for Premiership dominance. This is unfair and by the looks of it, against the law.’
Hmmm….. solution….. buy some more fooking English players… everyone else seems to manage it…
Theres gotto be some competition between Jeff winter and Poll,to be perceived as most wierd out there…
Very good article. My thoughts and no doubt a lot of yours as well
http://www.onlinegooner.com/exclusive/index.php?id=1548
Its the FA that are shit scared to let foreign refs because we all now after a couple of seasons the English refs short comings would be evident.
That said though, I could think of nothing worse than more swedish refs bossing arsenal games
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Love the kit Pedro, good rant too.
Geoff
Are there no way/authority to complain/report about steward bulliness at matches ? like u guys faced.
we have chamakh to look forward to,to watch ..our un-official arsenal signing/player…
Morning all!
Having nightmares with the feeds this morning… I think wordpress has fucked up again!
Lovely!
Cheers QoS.
I thought you’d like the shirts Geoff, being in design and all that!
Morning pedro
Did u take snaps of shirts in your wardrobe and photoshopped the arsenal logos on those snaps ??
diaby head is so small for the shirt..it was alien-like amusing..
I used a telescopic lens and caught them out Sabeel!
Pedro youre sauce must be hot. Exclusive pics Well done
Great post
Extra hot Fran
Sabeel the only way is to scare the shit out of them, like I did, fucking bully picked on the wrong person. Pedro, I’m just glad we have white sleeves.
Pedro,
Really appreciate the hard work for joy of all of us for the post.
btw i observed wordpress showed u posted yesterday itself 19.55 pm,though not published,i think u just corrected that too…
now i really know what u meant yesterday evening,when u asked us all to look forward to,
todays post is special.
thanks for the hard work pedro.
Arsenal is the only team not to have a player red carded this season Pedro
Geoff
awesome,when u shouted at him,what was the steward reaction Geoff?
the least he could do was apologise,but that is unreal to expect that right?
I like the ’71 strip, it smells of………Victory.
franchise
what is the meaning of “Your sauce must be hot”
i am not used to the meanings of such pharses
SIG sorry cant explain. Your sense of humour needs major surgery
ESPN Soccernet
“Widespread reports on Tuesday morning claim the storm of controversy surrounding Ashley Cole has placed his future at Chelsea in real doubt”.
“The majority of newspapers detail how Cole feels “victimised” after being the first high-profile test subject for Chelsea’s new stringent disciplinary code, announced to the public by manager Carlo Ancelotti in a press conference last week.”
Franchise
C`mon man,some way to explain it lol
The times will ignore this, they are murdoch owned. Murdoch is all about man united.
Pedro
Awsome f*cking post…!!!
Besides not allowing other refs to do the job in England, the standard of refereeing in the PL is shocking to say the least.
I think the commentators make it even worse with their skewed comments on referees decisions.
walcott feeling 100% fit,now only if his final delivery become 100% fit too..
no red cards are because we dont tackle which might be okay against most of the teams in this league but chelski and utd steamrolled us because of it. porto bullied us out of it last week too
“Speculation is mounting within football circles that Jose Mourinho will be offered the job at Manchester City if Roberto Mancini fails to finish in the top four this season.
Owner Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan hired Mancini to replace Mark Hughes with a mandate to qualify for the Champions League, and City’s momentum towards that target has slowed with the Italian’s future now on the agenda after a disappointing goalless draw at home to Liverpool at the weekend.”
Those arabs carry on like spoilt brats.
GG9,
Not only this season, it’s been over a year since Arsenal have a player red carded.
Andy Gray did mention this during our game against Liverpool a couple of weeks ago. He also said that Arsenal players are taught to always behave well on the pitch and they are a team from another planet.
Always good to hear from an anti-Arsenal person praising our style and behaviour…
tevez agent feels tevez will be back for chelsea game,we need a full strength city team there,for chelsea to drop some points at home…
come back tevez to rock chelsea.
GTS & nn
On the flip side, when The Arsenal were getting red carded, it seemed like every week, The Club was winning stuff & never bullied. I liked those daze
stunners,
i am glad we r not getting red cards,becos we are always so much injured
i mean so many our players are injured,i am glad we dont get those red cards…
gg9
true,but this is not that age…so we need to change..
Sabeel
With a heap of depth in the squad(if Le Prof bought), the players that get red carded, would be able to rest/recoup so maybe there wouldn’t be as many injuries
GG9 long term injury is the new red card
yes gg9,thats what i am mentioning
currently we dont have those heap of exp backups,sigh.
No one in the media will talk about our fair play, only anti-arsenal stories sell.
lol Wheres the third kit? please check with your “sauces” if you can snap AA23 in it.
why do we want to be pampered anyway? we have been a low fouling team and won fair play awards for years. We had players with the habit of getting red cards but overall we committed little fouls. I want the press to rave about our titles and all not about how nice we are. No one cares really
I agree Gnarley, if it wasn’t for those jammy buggers finding oil they’d all be sitting around camel shit fires to keep warm at night.
Veira is back in England for less than a month and gets a 3 game ban in like his 2nd game
unfortunately our titles have virtually disappeared
no red cards show the lack of aggression! when was the last one diaby against bolton? when we came back from 2-0 down?
It’s debatable if you ask me…red cards are associated with ill discipline or hot headedness.
Do I want to support a team of hard headed ill disciplined players or players who want to play the game as it should be.
On a sensible note (sorry) I would have thought that if refs from the continent reffed here and vice versa, we would at least get some consistency across europe. At the moment when we play in the CL the rules are bent in different places. Also if there was a language barrier, there would be less buddying up with players.
Duke, I reckon there will be more of that to come from Vieira aswell – especially when the frustration sets in, when it dawns on him that he can’t keep up with and boss PL midfielders like he used to in the good ol days.
Chary speaking of arabs, have you seen the Hurt Locker
Ryan, probably, I would prefer him to Denilson though.
No I haven’t Gnarley, I’m sure it’d wind me up though, almost as much as “My name is Khan” which all the wet liberals are frothing in their pants about at the moment.
I know that given recent articles and decisions in the past this will be hard to believe, but Poll is actually a Gooner !! I went to a sports dinner a year or so ago, where he was speaking and he took great delight in telling the story about the quick free kick against Chelsea and describing how “we” scored. Mind you some of that was tinged by the obviously hatred he had for Maureen and JT – though that was also a plus point as far as I was concerned.
Duke – I don’t know you or have any idea about your footballing skills, but I reckon I would probably prefer to see you in our midfield over Denilson !!
Exactly Arsenal Tom
Red cards are a symptom of an agressive, tough team.
No red cards is a symptom of a team that are frail & not making tackles, or possibly not comitted.
there was somthing about letting foreign referees work in England in yesterdays Times
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/gabriele_marcotti/article7035539.ece
not looking at it from your angle of them giving advantage to the english players, gabriele marcotti was making the point that we could recruit the best from around europe
Anyone know the stats for most fouled team?
most fouled player?
most yellow cards against?
most sending offs against?
I see a red card challenge on one of our players in every game, but the ref never has the balls to call it.
A&N
Get your tin foil hat back on. We are treated no different to anyone else.
Vieira getting sent off never really hurt us.. it was a blow numbers wise but it sent a message to the other team saying ‘dont fuck with us’ and most of the time we still won.
these days our team gets kicked silly and the other team knows there wont be any serious come back
Ryan, I am actually pretty good and that is my position, really I would even prefer Steven Hawkings to Denilson in midfield.
I told poll he was a cunt and it got past the moderation on his shit piece of writing
I disagree gambon. There is definitely a bias towards english players when they are diving,fouling or swearing they get away with far more than our boys.
GM
it will pass,they want controversy and fight on there platforms.
Anyone else love to see this headline in the NOTW this summer?!….. My Latin lover Cesc knows how to love a woman right. Exclusive, by cheryl cole. Haha
I think this is a clever Photoshop job. I know this cos if you look very closely to the home shirt the Nike tick and the arsenal ™ badge are on the wrong sides….. Haha nice try, nearly had me there
Awfull lookin outfits… Y d f*ck does wenger leave eboue on d bench & sagna on d pitch?
http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-article/Eduardo-expects-to-return-for-Stoke-Arsenal/5999/?
In 2009/2010 Eduardo has played 22 games for Arsenal in the Premier League and Champions League, scoring six goals and providing five assists
Our new Brazilian wonderkid which we signed
lol, love the goal where he nutmegged the keeper than jumped him whilst he is standing and slotted home!
Charybdis: was interested to know your thoughts, as I read Gnarley’s comments!!
Well maybe Arsene should buy some english players then.
All the successful teams out there purchase the best players from their own division apart fromus. Exactly how many players has Wenger bought from other prem clubs in his time?
Utd, Chelsea, Bayern, AC, Juve, Inter, Madrid, Barca do it all the time.
Omololu
Because Sagna is better maybe?!
gambon, we all know how much those players cost and how much they are actualy worth.
Why should we buy a 12m Lee Catermole when we can get a 3m song?
Arsenal should not be forced to adapt to injustices in officiating games.
Yeah, I have to agree Gambon.
The Africans are on a roll to reengineer reality when it comes to Eboue.
Up the Hammers
A&N
Eduardo got away with a pathetic dive earlier in the season you may remember? or is that all forgotten about?!
Football teams are all about balance. Physique vs technique, skill vs strength, foreign vs english, tall vs short, attack vs defence.
Wenger always gets the balance wrong these days. Its like he decided in 2004 he would write a manual on how NOT to win anything.
One for the other Dad’s on here. Read this in letters page, Times, saturday: “I told my children that broccoli, spinnach and sprouts contain massive amounts of Kryptonite. Now, they can’t get enough of them”.
Eddy ready for Stoke?
Eduardo may have got away with it officially but unofficially we have suffered ever since.
Only 2 pens awarded all season, countless pen appeals waved away especially in Europe.
Do not be naive enough to think the Eduardo incident did not cost us! The very next night Aston villas A.Young performed two dives and got two pens, nothing was mentioned since then there have been countless incidents including those involving golden boy Rooney and Gerrard yet they were not subjected to the same trial by media that Eduardo and Arsenal were.
The Eduardo dive cost us big time… that’s why I was so angry at the time. Forget whether the keepers leg hair brushed him, he cheated and refs have been suspicious since.
http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/34596/_Wenger_eager_to_sign_up_Ajax_starlet_after_Bergkamps_endorsemsent_.aspx
Pedro: since you are here, great photos of the new kit. You must have put in a full night shift at Grove Towers.
Micky… I had to pull in some favours for those shots.
Can’t wait till they go on general sale!
Sabeel: Please don’t keep coming over with all them negative waves, about us signing another bloomin’ “Starlet”!
I dont think Eduardo did anything wrong in diving for that Celtic pen.
It is the refs and media who made it ok for Rooney, Gerrard, and co to do that. They are the ones who have been calling it clever play since Owen used to do it for England.
Eduardo was just playing by there rules and was caught out because he isn’t English and did it against some whining Scots.
hmmmm somehow i think the photos might be doctored
especially cesc in that 1970′s cheap porno hair style …
thank god he got over that phase
Talking to a West Ham fan chum of mine, and he says that since those classy guys bought the club, they have started playing all the old favourite East End numbers pre match at the Boelyn Ground. Knees up mother Brown etc. Apparently, fans are seriously embarrassed.
Oh well, once more, and for today only:
Up The Hammers! last time, I promise
Cesc looks like an 80s rock star!
Sad stories about Ashley Cole in the red tops today. WHY THE FUCK CAN’T DROGBA SCREW SOMEONE’S WIFE AND GET CAUGHT, then have to go on gardening leave.
ok true col. mustardo …
my mistake
bet you only Pedro was insane enough to do that
Colonel, I guess you are referring to Hoddle and Waddle. Now that was very, very bad hair.
Hi all
I am surprised nobody seems to be talking about or worried about Portsmouth going out of business. We would lose 6 points if that happened!!
Rob: am I right in saying the IR are only after £10m?
Rob… United were never going to drop points against Pompey!
Ethan, I swear those pics are genuine!
I swear on Drogba and Rooneys amazing form!
I’ve been told by mates of mates that Drogba is a bit of a player too, just doesnt get caught.
micky
If there is any signing we can be predicted to do,is only young ones mate,please blame wenger
micky,
drogba is Gay,thats why he isnt getting caught,with anyones wife..
Ethan you such a smart ass I knew there was something fishy looking about the jerseys
So Drog’s more likely to get caught with someone’s husband BVoom-boom Sabeel ?
He certainly falls over & dives like a shirt lifter.
The trick is not to fuck around with slappers who will sell their story.
Fuck with high class birds or someone with morals who has too much too lose to go to the papers!
Just to keep this afresh
i loved the away shirt description
Man that is so
Perhaps its the sticky stains from Pedro’s index finger
or middle finger or maybe both hmmmmm
Hi chary
yes, Gay Drogba like below..
http://img.skysports.com/09/09/496×259/Sol-Campbell-Debut-Notts-County-James-Bentley_2363259.jpg
just imagine that to be drogba behind sol campbell
Hahahaaa loving the jersey stunt by the minute hahaha great stuff
Franchise
with due respect
, u r mentioning a lot of times about pedro`s fingers, sauce etc etc ..why ? (lol 
)
i realy hope edwardo get his fitness back up to 100% because looks like real out and out goal scorer he does have as much stregth as rvp but he will score at least 15 goals a season,i dont this team are softies but maybe they do miss a bit of british steel
so it is
spurs ladies vs Arsenal ladies in FA cup,
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/ladiesfacegunnersshowdown230210.html?
A&N: nothing to stop high class birds from suddenly turning into Bunny Boilers!
Its dull, so top three reasons to hate Man U:
1. ?
How true is the post today, I would go further and say that the League isn’t just English biased but Northern biased.
Check out the History of the League and it tells a big story.
I believe the reason we are hated is because we are dirty fucking Cockneys, Londoners are detested by most Northerners.
I hate the Chavs but please explain to me how they haven’t cleaned up these past five years, explain how an average 1 player Team can dominate so much.
I keeep harping on about their Chairman ousting David Dein from his position as head of Football only to see a fading side return to win 3 in a row.
They won nothing for 3 years and didn’t look like winning anything either IMO. All of a sudden David Gill was elected and that was it, they set off on another fantastic journey.
They are a very good Team and always will be but how can some of these very average players be regarded as Greats?
Yes they have a lot of British Players in the squad but the diving cheating scummy best in the world winker got Pens and free kicks when defenders breathed on him.
I say it again that we need an inquiry in the Prem to open up all the nuances that we fans can clearly see. It may have fucked up the Italian League but at least those Teams will think twice before cheating in future.
There is constant talk about Club finances and the fact that Teams who are running with Depts that are just not imaginable can get away with it, it goes on and must be stopped.
If The Arsenal are cheating then do us too.
Why should referees have a go at Clubs or Players they don’t like and why should they be allowed to continue to do so.
When Rooney calls a ref a cunt is that ok, when Gerrard dives is that forgivable, When Terry body checks a forward who tears past him is that acceptable, what makes it right for an English player to go in studs up over the top but is then written about and spoken about by every media pundit for days no weeks when Billy mistimes a tackle v Bolton.
My prediction v Stoke next Saturday is that they will launch everything up at us and pressure us all over the Park, thats ok but lets see what the Ref does when they climb all over our defence at throw ins and set pieces. Lets see the Refs when they body check our runs and I bet we get the obligatory they don’t like it up em speak and the we will get amongst them and kick them words before the Match. Words that the English press see as ok.
Stoke fans hate Cockneys more than most other Northern Teams, trust me I know this, I have been in the old clock end as a Steward and taken shit from their fans.
We are The Arsenal and we are hated.
micky
1) Most of their fans can’t find Manchester on a map
I was just trying to decide why I hate Pool and Utd so much, and the word Northerners sprang to mind. Then I heard Roy “Gooner” Hodgson on the radio this morning, and he was talking about managing overseas, then up north, and now in “The South West”. Talk about north of Watford etc. Fulham is the South West!!
So clearly, anything West of the Holloway Road, must be the West Country!
El Tel – I fully back everything you said, we should have an open look at how the bias/corruption is making the game anything but an even contest. Plus you are spot on about the Stoke cretins – I remember the last game of last season when they attacked a pro-Wenger demo near the north bridge, I mean wtf had it got to do with them? Mono brain celled, northern cro-magnon monkeys – they can f**k right off.
Roy Hodgson would be a great future Arsenal coach.
What you mean pedro?
If Portsmouth go out of business we would lose 6 points when Chelsea would only lose 3 points
Fergie disciple Bruce did his bit for his old Gaffer on Saturday by proclaiming the Big Clubs get penalties like that and Sunderland wwouldn’t have got it.
What a prick, yes we know Sunderland are a small Club and if he has been watching Football this year he would have seen that since Eduardogate we have not been given fuck all wtih at least 5 stonewall pens not awarded.
I bet his Boss Ole 100% proof called him to thank him for his help after he heard that comment.
A&N. I agree, but how old is he? And, I can’t see AW going anywhere soon.
Micky
1, Most of thier fans are heroin addicts and dealers
we still beat the mackem cunts though El Tel. Love bruce’s nose though
Good point Micky, he is 62. That is 2 years older than Wenger.
I read somewhere that he is a neighbour of Wengers and they go down to the local pub together to discuss football. Hodgson is one of the smarter managers in the league.
Good post Pedro…agree with the main points raised but have you seen the tsandard of refereeing in Spain or Italy? Those guys blow the whistle if an opposing player looks at another, there is no need to attempt tackling to stop play
i chose to support arsenal instead of them
Hi Chary,
The reason I think it goes deeeper than the Foreigner thing is because it has been like this forr Arseanl since we were promoted when God was Boy.
My Elders used to tell me how we have always been disliked.
Nicknames of yesteryear like Lucky,Boring and Dirty Arsenal have been thrown at us since the Chapman days.
Going back to Northerners for a moment. The greatest football chant comes from Plymouth Argyle fans (the most southerly team in the league) who chant “you dirty northern bastards” at everyone, including Torquay and Exeter, both about 30 miles away!
micky
1) At Old Trafford, when Man Utd is winning, injury time is 1-2 minutes.. if they’re losing.. its bout 5-6 minutes
GM,
Didn’t you think they were the worst Team to visit THOF this season mate?
I only saw the 1st half but they were shit though
Micky 89.
Awesome mate. Come on you Genners. WTF is the Genners?
I love that AD on TV. Green Army.
I think we’ll finish above the mancs. They’ll draw tonight
GoonerM, I think that is a very fair and objective opinion. So far then, we have;
1. All their fans are heroin addicts and dealers.
2. All their fans are utter cunts.
and that leaves
3.?
This is very theraputic
Truly shit GM.
Sund land Hull and Bolton for the drop for me please. Wolves next for fielding weak teams but they redeemed themselves when doing the Spuds twice.
Micky 89
Those Stoke cunts do make a difference IMO. They lift that shite team.
Sabeel,
If the Mancs are 2 down which is rare they get to play for days.
I think I’m alone now. See ya all.
Ethan, I swear those pics are genuine!
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yes….. SURE
and i have news cesc is our new manager next term and diaby will be in goals !
so those pics CANT be real
Why do i have the feeling that the mancs always play at home ?!
GoonerJohn Says:
February 23, 2010 at 13:00
Why do i have the feeling that the mancs always play at home ?!
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thats because thats the only time they win
so they remind you
errrr Leeds who ??
lol
i hope west ham can take a point tonight like they did at the bridge 
A&N think you got him confused with joe kinnear mate, he’s very pally with wenger
El Tel, I think it started from the time we “usurped” the Spuds, initially because we can to an area of London which was there patch by dint of the Spuds being there fist and secondly because of our promotion to the top flight by slightly dodgy means. After that, the envy of our success through the 30’s(mainly by the pro-northern media who supported the Manks, the Dippers, and at that time the other successful northern teams, like Bolton, Blackburn etc..)
The boring Arsenal tag was manna from heaven for the traditional Arsenal haters and since then “foreign” Arsenal has been thrown in our face repeatedly. We just can’t win over the Arsenal haters and as I told my sons when they joined the gooner ranks, this dislike comes with the territory.
It’s why I feel we should use this antipathy and vitriol we get routinely from every non-gooners to draw strength from and close ranks.
As ever it’s Arsenal against the world.
The rest can go f**k themselves.
El Tel
Thanks for correcting me
chary
lots of ur posts have the same last line today,any special reason?
I do not need 3 reasons to hate the mancs….
Only ONE…
Ole Blue Nose…end of!!!!
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micky
3) http://www.antimanu.co.uk/resources/cantona.gif
It must be my “time of the month” Boom-Boom.
Oh Pulis is a tosser
He wears a baseball cap
He only has one tactic
And that’s that twat Delap
He throws from the left wing
He throws from the right
He couldn’t play a through ball if he played all fucking night.
where is Geoffrey?
\o/ PTL
Two women friends were caught short while making their way home after a night in the pub.
They were near a graveyard, so one suggested they do their business behind a headstone.
One had nothing to wipe with, so she thought she’d take off her panties and use them, then throw them away. Her friend was wearing rather expensive underwear, and didn’t want to ruin hers – but salvaged a large ribbon from a wreath on one of the graves, and proceeded to use it. They then made off for home.
The next day one woman’s husband phoned the other’s husband and said: “We’d better keep an eye on our wives, you know. Mine came home last night without her panties.”
“That’s nothing,” said the other. “Mine came back with a card stuck to her bum that read: ‘From all the lads at the fire station. We’ll never forget you.”
When your LIFE is in DARKNESS, PRAY GOD and ask him to free you from Darkness.
Even after you pray, if U R still in Darkness – Please PAY the ELECTRICITY BIL
am off from office..catch u guys from home..
& keep it goonerish..and kill this long pause before the stoke game…
I see someone’s read Gab Marcotti’s latest article in the Times then! Your blogs good, but it smacks of opportunism if you simply nick someone else’s idea without crediting them.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/gabriele_marcotti/article7035539.ece
Of course, it could be coincidence. But that’s pretty unlikely.
Come on you genners- went to see the Green army last saturday for the afternoon.
Great game- super own goal.
If your down in the West country pay them a visit only 15 quid and decent pasties!!
Yes you are correct,it was Joe Kinear who he goes down the pub with.
But I do remember reading that hodgson is also good friends with Wenger off the pitch.
A&N.. probably right mate, hodgson seems like decent intelligent bloke… more likely drinking buddy than phil brown or fat sam!!
Boro, I wrote my article yesterday morning and I still haven’t read the Marcotti article.
The CL Last 16 – 1st leg ties to be played tonigt,
Stuttgart v Barcelona
Olympiacos v Bordeaux
Gabriele Marcotti is a fat, Italian, chav-supporting ponce.
http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/34615/First_XI_Summer_Bosmans.aspx
If it doesn’t turn up on the newsnow Arsenal feed, the chances are I won’t have read it.
The article is quite similar to mine… but you can see where the inspiration for my post came from if you look at 11:03′s post from yesterday.
Whether people choose to believe that is up to them! However, I’m don’t tend to read non-Arsenal related stories…
Senna,van bommel,marquez all would be good addition to the squad.If we get navas it will be terrific
Best post ever?
It’s ridiculous really, how does the birthplace even matter, they’re playing for an English team aren’t they? Isn’t that something to be proud of?
Cheers Mayank.
I think being English myself, you can understand how certain attitudes can creep in…
nishanth according to that link chamakh plays for brazilian side flamengo!? haha
Anyone watching Olympiakos vs Bordeux tonight? Should be interesting to see how good Chamakh really is.
I’ll be watching that game A&N… I’m hoping to blown away by his skill and pace!
I don’t really understand it, take the IPL for example (sorry to the non-cricket fans), I’m absolutely chuffed to see the likes of Warne, Pieterson and McGrath(playing for my local team) playing in it. Its great to see all the greatest players come together and push the boundaries. Of course its a different scenario but the fans are all that matters.
Pedro, watch for his balletic swan dives as well.
pedro have you read the marcotti article
seems to be the in question 
afternoon Grovers whats happening?
Been very slow this couple of days? What happened?
haha, No, I didn’t Nick! If I did, I certainly wouldn’t have posted the bit about the times at bottom of my post.
Turns out Marcotti is almost as visionary as me!
ive actually had work to do
fuck knows about everybody else 
I should put
Duke… I think it’s always slow when there’s little going on…
Nick, me 2, loads of work, but somehow I manage to sneak in, and usually with the load of work I have today I would never be able to keep up. But today was very easy…
what happened Saturday fucking munglers
also DDM is my new buddy and any tickets he gets are mine, i decided 
did my mate stop by for a beer at the s/b???
Nick, we were at the S+B, then the tavern…. then we walked on!
Did you get your tix?
I’am looking forward to see how chamakh will play!!
But about Wellington Silva, what a talent that is!! I think that he will be straight in our first team when he is 18. But does anybody know of we have sign him for sure???
DUke its only worth reading all comments on a Friday you better of missing most any other day
I am off also now. Bye.
frans a ticket tease
read friday night saturday to see if any thing mentioned and i know its sad but ss and ddm made me laugh for ages ss chucked a hissy fit and had a dig at ddm and wanted him struck down dead until he heard DDM had tickets then tried playing it down like they were buddies and boys play ruff but were all friends then ddm commented and he took it the wrong way and went on like a kid again
funny as fuck
laters Duke have fun
Wellington reminds me of Quincy who was brilliant at youth level.
Don’t know why he ended up in moscow, but now he is back in England with Pompy he is showing glimpses of the top class skill he showed with us.
Arse&nose, do you know of we have signed him for sure??
yes 100% signed, sealed, delivered.
I heard quincy and RVP got caught having a little “smok & a pancake”… RVP didn’t play for the rest of that season through ‘injury’ and quincy got shipped out…
Oh the irony!
AT, that would explain it! lol
I still rate Quincy, he has been pompys best player in the last few weeks.
yeah, he’ll probably stand out there to be fair though.
he was always touted as a major major talent so it was a weird one at the time but once i heard that it kinda made sense. i think he’ll end up another pennant and wont be too missed
Great Post Pedro,
You see ! We need top class writters like you to stand by the team and respond strongly to the bad press and the bad refereeing we’ve been constantly given for so many years.
These posts from the Gooners top bloggers will surelly be read by some big players in the media. We all know human nature. They won’t forget it so easily because what you said so efficiently, is already in their mind. I am sure it brings something to this young (thus more sensible to injustice) team in their quest of their first title.
With better press and refereing we’ve got a chance this year.
We should be campagning until the end to sort out these matters. And it’s your job (you british gooners) to sort out your own house. You’ve got the blessing and full support of all the gooners around the world, that’s all we can do from where we live.
Have a nice day.
You won your bet of yesterday. I am back again
. Just because, I couldn’t resist to your post. That’s a great job, most of us can’t do.
I hear Chavski are offering 36 million for Angel DiMaria. He was “certain” he was going to join us two seasons ago but deal fell through, now the fecker is worth 36 million, best way to describe him ,Robben on speed.
Anyways probably will get to see alot of him next season but alas Peds wont be in our “Exclusive new jersey”
RockyPires, I remember Angel Di Maria unfortunatly we didnt get him. I think it came down to the fact that he is a killer and Wenger thought he may kill some of out midfielders.
Ya Arse, he might have killed that 16 year old Deacon…..
Murdering basterd! No wonder Chelsea want him.
Moroccan mug chamakh will show how shit he is today.we deserve better players than him
like who jags?
wasnt di maria was all a big hoax? started by arsenalshorts.com?
How do you feel about Diaby now Jaguar?
jag… well thats something to look forward to then mate
i think this wellington is more of a powerful winger/striker looks alot stronger and more powerful vela and thoe evon though is only 17,it does not look asif wenger is likely change his policy blooding young players i dont thats wroung if workd for manu dont see why cant work for arsenal but they have to quality young players and have good mix of experience it also depends on kind young player your talking about bring in someone who 21-22 and will come good in 1-2 years nothing wroung with that but bringing 17-18 players who maybe ready 4-5 years time and putting the first team no offence ramsey but he realy needs on the bench learning someone who is much more experienced,its very clear that players like vela need to go out on loan
I here thats it with cashley, couldnt happen to a nicer guy!
I hear thats it with Cashley,couldnt happen to a nicer guy!
Jaguar, when all you can say about the club is bad things, it leads people to believe you don’t support the team.
Hi Pedro
How are you?
DiMaria was genuine.
He even said himself that he was supposed to sign for us and it went wrong.
I havent said anything bad about my beloved club pedro.i dont really like
the hypocrisy of wenger and his over reliance on his love children.the only reason wenger is after him is because he is free cheap and african. Its really embarassing when wenger doesnt give two shits to quality and all he does is trying to go for cheap players inorder to save his bonuses
All good GM, how about yourself?
Will you be buying a new strip?
I agree with jaguar on the Chamakh thing.
Anyone who thinks he is some kind of saviour is mad.
Jaguar, you talk about your love for the club… but to me, it sounds like the bloke who beats his girlfriend then say, ‘but she knows I love her’.
I’ve never heard you compliment anything Arsenal.
You spent the whole of last year berating Diaby… now you’re sole focus is on Wenger and his hypocrisy… if Wenger wins something, who you going to target next?
Gambon, anyone who thinks he is a pile of shit is also mad.
I’m great thanks Pedro. I had a long conversation about logistics with a client last week and I thought about you. Interesting business you’re in. I’d buy a new shirt if it was more David Bowie
It has it’s moments GM… Like most things, it depends who you’re working for.
I’ll have a word with my man over at nike and see what he can do with next years kit!
How’s business?
Pedro,
Us, West Ham & Sunderland were in for him last year. The clue to his quality is in the latter 2 clubs.
Ive said many times he is a very good footballer, but at the very top level, which we are at, he may well be a long way out of his depth.
I just find it very strange when people say he’s better than Dzeko just because we are no doubt gonna sign him. If he ends up going elsewhere watch them same people say how they didnt rate him all along.
Pedro,
When will these new kits be available on le-grove?
Gambon,
Tevez was linked with us at first but he ended up playing for West Ham. Did this show that he wasn’t quality? And who did he end up playing for? You know the answer…
its not always about the individual player with arsenal though sometimes they have certain qualities which fit the system making them a very effective player for us
gambon Juve were in for him, and Liverpool were willing to break the bank for him too…. We’ve not even got him yet!
We have no idea how good Chamakh will be, it’s ridiculous to write him off yet, just as it’s ridiculous to claim he’s some sort of wonder player, although I’ve heard many more do the former than the latter
GTS
West Ham 6 months ago were a long way from the West Ham that signed them guys. They were hunting around in the bargain basement.
If Chamakh is sooooo good why was Wenger not willing to go above £6m for him?……he paid £8m for Jeffers, so he rates Chamakh as slightly worse than Jeffers?
I cant wait.
i am hearing a whole lot hipe about this chamakh player but to its all talk he ainst signed pre contract agreement or nothing there aint no garantee his comming to arsenal at all but if he realy that good idont understand why wenger did not sthey can ign him its only what 7 mill in jan its not as if we have a whole lot strikers count out vela and thoe because they wingers for they cant in central role,evon for wingers nasri vela theo to light weight for my taste they get pushed around to easily
leon Bordeaux said they weren’t willing to sell Chamakh for any price in jan, and Chamakh said he wasn’t willing to move anywhere in jan either.
West Ham were in for Adebayor as well, Spurs for Arshavin, Newcastle for Rooney…
I don’t think the clubs that were in for him matter…
Gambon, I read Steve Bruce talking about him.
He said the French club refused to sell so they didn’t even get to the bidding stage.
Sunderland had bundles of money in the summer… so pricing wasn’t an issue.
Stunners… I’ll be launching our t-shirt range next week… you’ll like them.
Cashley happy days … Haha
Pedro
Im not sure about Sunderland, but its common knowledge we bid about €7m, they wanted more & we wouldnt budge.
Wenger even said all this.
Wenger was willing to spend £13m on Wiltord, but wouldnt go above £6m for this guy. That worries me.
I can’t feel for Cashley… when you date one of the most famous women in the world… don’t fuck around, especially if you’re a footballer with limited brain cells.
Gambon… I don’t know the ins and outs of the deal… and Wenger has made some strange decisions… but he’s coming and a lot of top managers think he is a good player.
Cheryl dont put out though, that much is pretty obvious.
So whats a man to do?
Wear white pants & shove Jermain Pennants phone up his arse it seems!
Pedro
He is a good player, but be prepared for more frustration next season when we miss chance after chance then lose 3-0 to Chelsea.
gambon Wenger hasn’t said that at all, and it’s not “common knowledge” in the slightest, it’s media speculation!
Wenger supposedly made early enquiries, Bordeaux said what they wanted, Wenger didn’t get back to them and when he did he said that we didn’t want Chamakh regardless of the price because Eduardo was fit again.
That was the Bordeaux official line, there was/is NO official line about what happened from Wenger or Arsenal’s side, as there very rarely is with transfer stuff
Gambon… sleep with a bird who has as much to lose as him!
Jeez… pro footballers and their cheating… it’s embarrassing how poor they are at it.
a yes i forget about that but that leaves very short up front theo and vela are to wingers realy bretna is not realy finisher edardo is injured
Cheryl and Ashley Cole officially split up. Apparently she told him yesterday but he only found out today due to the lag on her lip synch.
Pedro
He tried to drunk text Jade Goody but she never replied!….so he grabbed the first thing he could find.
We’ve all been there.
What about Sagna as Gallas s replacement Centrehalf and Eboue as the master Rightback???
Sagna is 5.9, dont fancy another small CB.
Ya I know Gambon but he’s too good not to be playing, however hows about him LB???
So if Pompey go bust…thats it for the tittle race then.
Chelsea have won it.
Hi Grovers,
Pedro, just popped in to thank you for the link. I’ve always loved reading LG and the only reason I don’t post so much on here is simply that I can’t consistantly blog during the day and your debates move at such a pace due to the popularity of the site.
so wait the chamakh deal has been comfirmed by arsenal or the player/agent? i thought it was just papers quoting a ‘reliable’ source?
Yeah I agree gambon, Vermy and Gallas are short as centre backs go, but Sagna would be taking small centre backs to another level!
That won’t happen David, don’t worry!
Not confirmed by anyone official mike, so probably not TOTALLY done yet, hopefully just formalities to be concluded though
Rock
For me Sagnas way ahead of Eboue at LB anyway.
I like the look of this DeWeil guy, but do we really need to bother with another RB? mind you we could make a profit by buying him and selling Eboue.
I still hope Coquelin comes through as right back, he could encompass Sagna’s defensive ability with Eboue’s offensiveness!
the stupid or frustration thing about the chamakh deal in the summer was that as he had 12 months left on his contract he wasnt worth the 12-14 million his club wanted (allegedly). but toure a defender also with 12 months left on a contract was totally worth 14 million when shitty asked for him.
Chamakh would be another frustrating player,who like Gambon mentioned miss hell loads of chances,and pop up with a wonder goal against a shit team,like Adebywhore.We have enough of them.
Now,he is being hailed as our saviour!
*frustrating
No he wasn’t mike, City just have more money than sense! Toure with a 5 year contract wouldn’t be worth £14 mil!!
i dont think chamakh was worth that either but its very frustrating that arsenal never seem to be willing to buy at prices they are more than happy to sell at.
then complain about high prices and at no point seem to think that maybe selling at those prices helps dictate the prices of other players on the market.
* now this could be a in-valid point as i cant remember which came first but if we sold toure before we bid for chamakh then dont you think the people at Bordeaux might of looked at toure and thought well if he is worth that and chamakh contractually is in the same position then we want that amount too.
Chamakh: trouble is that any striker who has proved himself at a top club in a top league and who might be availble, is miles out of our price range/transfer policy. I will watch Bordeaux tonight, although another problem is that had I watched TH at Juve or Drogba at Marseilles, it would have been hard to get too excited.
Given the unbelievably quiet Jan transfer window, maybe we can hope that market forces will bring a little sober reality to the summer. City and Chelsea aside.
No i don’t think that mike – we set a maximum price at which we value a player and aren’t willing to go over it, just because other clubs have the means, and are willing to pay more than other players, ours included are worth, it doesn’t mean that we should.
Just because they’re stupid enough to do that doesn’t mean we should imo!
It’s frustrating missing out on players, (though obviously EVERY time we don’t sign a player, people just assume and then treat it as fact that it was all down to how much we were willing to pay, which I’m sure really isn’t the case alot of the time) but that’s life. Any time we pay more that one player is worth, it means the next player we buy, or somewhere along the line, we’ll have to settle for a player of a lesser quality
Perhaps also, by then our American friend might have secured his extra 1% shares, and want to make a splash. Villa or Torres would keep Cesc happy. Oh, and me!
Cant see them signing you Micky
Yeah Micky, I will reserve judgement until I see Chamakh play with our player, in our system, in our league. You can only guage so much when analysing players’ qualities in other leagues, with other players, in other systems imo.
Talking about the summer once Chamakh is official that’s one thing less to think about, Smalling would’ve been nice, as another necessity ticked off the list, though it’s good that we’re trying to sort that our as early as possible, looking at Slavic etc. Hopefully it’ll be sorted before the window even opens. Then it’s just a case of a keeper possibly, and a DM, and we’re set for me!
Though Adriano on a free wouldn’t go amiss as well!
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5974342,00.html
A: agree with what you say. It is not often we pay over the odds. Wiltord and Walcott spring to mind.
We will never win anything without Wenger taking his tinted glasses off.
Gambon: I have my unique qualities!
A: I am a big fan of us signing a powerful winger.
Jaguar: maybe the American will remove them, or merely open the safe for a day or two!
Jaguar
9 wins and we can win the league this year.
IF we beat Stoke I think it’s not that unlikely
A – i dont agree, its all well and good having set valuations but sometimes there are players who are worth the extra 2 million than you would normally pay (dont mean chamakh) with arsenal it seems they would rather save that 2 million than do what it takes to get that special player.
also the point is A if you are happy to sell at a certain price and the toure deal was then you cant complain that prices are too inflated when you go to sign players.
Let’s face it. Owners are very powerful people, and he may not be stupid either, and like the rest of us he may see the need for a proven goalscorer.
a i have to disgree there with silvest senderos going possibly gallas/sole going to i feelleft back positions needs adressing to clichy is far to error prone for me,i feel are wingers in vela thoe nasri are to light weight too easily pushed around and they need change up defensive coaching because they just look to easy to break down for me
Leon, clichy is just in bad form. To me he is already starting to look better. Besides, we have gibbs/traore too. At CB however, we could possibly only have Vermy and Djourou next year…thats 2 CBs short if Gallas leaves.
Be realistic. Some of the foreign players we have and the English players we’ve let go don’t compare.
Keeping Senderos and letting Upson go.
Buying Denilson? For 13+ Nasri, I’ll buy either Young or Milner because they are direct. Why Arsene didn’t buy Adam Johnson? A real winger other than Nasri and Rosicky who was priced at 7+
Almunia, Fabianski, Mannone against Given who was available? We could have been 2 points ahead of Chavski if he had bought Given.
Arsene prefers foreign players to British/English players and also gets rid of average English players so quickly but keep average foreign players for years. Cygan, Senderos, Aliadiere anyone?
He didn’t buy loads of foreign players when he managed Monaco and Grampus Eight but is doing it here year in year out.
The whole policy of buying foreign players, the likes of Almunia, Denilson, Mannone and others only brings hatred for the club.
TBH.. clichy looked only good against sunderland!
Lets see how he handles Stoke.
Actually lets see how the entire team handles Stoke, that is going to be a massive game!
So what would you do Leon? We can’t buy a whole new team.
Gibbs is too young for a whole season.
Nasri is a quality player who will be an Arsenal great, up there with Bobby Pires, and he certainly isn’t lightweight!
AW has clearly identified the CB position as one that needs filling, hence his bid for Smalling. So expect some big chap to be signed in summer.
And please please please AW sign a GK. A top GK, Someone who is first choice for his National team. Spend all the Adebayor money….
Evening Choy. How are you?
It is snowing here AGAIN !
Maturks – don’t agree, there’s just so many foreign players available you’re not going to buy English guys too often if you pick on “quality” – add to that that English guys are expensive and don’t always have the right technique for this team so that’s why he’s buying cheaper, younger English guys and bringing home grown through when he can.
I know it’s a bit patchy but Gibbs, Wilshere, Bartley, JET, Eastmond and maybe Watt are all going to have some sort of chance next year imo
Agree with Choy though Stoke is a massive, massive game.
Evening BR!
Snowing! Wow.. its getting really warm here! Can’t imagine what the summer is going to be like
Yep, I hope he adds defensive players this summer, another CB, DM and GK would be great!
But 3 players in? I bit too much I think!
I see at least 3 Choy.
GK, CB, CF. plus maybe a DM though Eastmond and Coquelin look good.
More interesting is who does he sell? Does he keep the faith with Denilson? Or Eduardo?
I think its the big one out sadly BR!
Maturks, Wenger prefers foreigners to English players because they are generally better and generally cheaper too.
Also, very impressive that you seem to remember the nationalities of all the players Wenger bought at Monaco and G8, thats a might memory you’ve got there.
I dont think buying 3 is out of the question. It really depends on how many go because he will need to “replace” anyone he sells.
A GK, CB and Chamakh would be enough imo but I wouldnt be suprised if he also brought in a old DM on the last day.
I would love if we got Van Bommel on a free as well as Chamakh. Wenger wouldnt have to spend any money either.
I should add that Wenger probably didnt buy foreigners at his old clubs because the local lads were of better standard than the average englishman..the money thing at G8 would also have been a major factor.
1. Subotic
2. Akinfeev
3. Chamakh
Wenger says that adding or selling more than 3 players disrupts the squad.
Forget Akinfeev…Lloris all the way!
I think adding Akinfeev would be great for arshavin too. Have some company.
Stu, I said the same thing a couple days ago but someone said Lyon want 20+ for him…
He’s worth it though. And Akinfeev doesnt seem to be too good at taking crosses. We already know that Lloris is brilliant at everything.
I wouldn’t want Akinfeev luke, Lloris is class, but would be out of our price range I reckon. I’d like us to get someone in with experience though, someone who’s going to really instill confidence and organise at the back, rather than a young keeper. If Buffon really wants to leave Juve then we should just snap him up!
Subotic I’ve only seen play once and he was terrible, but with how highly rated he is it must’ve just been an off day. Someone like him would be perfect, 20-23 year old, big, quick, and strong, anyone who fits that criteria will do me!
oh and obviously gotta be right sided too!
Whered you get that Akinfeev cant take a cross? Wenger wont spend 20 million even if he is worth it.
Akinfeev aint that tall either. The last thing we need behind a tiny defence is a tiny keeper who doesnt come for the ball.
I can dream cant I Luke. Signing Lloris for 20m would be a risk worth taking because of his quality and age. He could be our keeper for 15 years if things worked out.
luke everytime I’ve seen him he’s been very flappy, and heard others who’ve seen more of him say the same. Amazing shot stopper, but not too commanding
big maybe it sjust me like my wingers quick and powerful and direct like lumberg soething vela to slight for me he has got some tricks but he pushed around a bit to easily,and i dont think there is cb problem at all gallas verm and sole are very good,the problem is tackticle i have seen them go throw the 11 men and attack and they get coat out thats not cb problem that is nuts and they have done that 3-4 times and have burned
I would still want Akinfeev. Agree to disagree there. Subotic is definitely class but Im sure Wenger has some targets there. In all reality Wenger probably wont buy a GK.
What about Szczesny Stu?!
He can fight it out with Lloris A. Competition is good for the soul..
Any realistic GK targets? Akinfeev and Lloris would be too expensive.
leon i really don’t agree about vela, he’s short but pretty stocky, holds off defenders playing for mexico very well, certainly wouldn’t say he’s any less strong than ljungberg was, and he’s taller than ljungberg!
luke I reckon if Fabianski is done then he’ll definitely buy a keeper. I really believe that Almunia was just a stop gap whilst Fabianski settled in, but now there are doubts over him we need a proper number one imo.
We need a keeper this summer regardless of how good Chesney is going to be.
He should break the bank on Lloris. Offer 16 million
Yeah true Stu, unless Fabianski comes in next couple of games and does well until the end of the season, I really don’t wanna give up on him yet!
I didnt want t give up on Fabianski either but performances this season have made my reconsider how good he is. I know he hasnt been playing with any sort of regularity but any time he does play he shit himself.
This is the exact conversation you dont want to have about your GK. We need stability at the back and then we can build on that stability with the back four. WTF stability can you build on top of almunia?
a talking about going big players like at chelsea and going uo against teams like that he cant do anything i have no dought in 2-3 years he will real force but right now he is not ready,and llumberg is quite a but stronger than him but he was in hi sprime height and and stregth are two different things,and i do think that phsical stregth is a problem in midfield and striker position lets face no diaby song bretna no presence there at all
The difference between Vela and Ljungberg imo is that Ljungberg never got into physical confrontations so never looked weak. He was always moving and noone got a chance to push him over or whatever. Vela
Foreign refs hate us with an equal passion.
Look at the Champions league…
http://www.tribalfootball.com/liverpool-arsenal-alerted-agent-admits-psv%E2%80%99s-afellay-could-move-abroad-661171
Someone on here wants us to get Afellay, I forget who though.
can someone tell me why we dont celebrate goals anymore. The only people that celebrate are eduardo,cesc,vp and theo. Everyone else is so individualistic. No screaming and running around. No passion. Look at AC. They look like little boys when they score. Look at Sol when he scored on Wednesday.
Hugo Lloris
Sagna-Gallas-Vermaelen-Clichy
———–Song————–
——-Cesc——Diaby——-
Rosicky—————-Arsh
————-Rvp———-
WHU to spank the mancs?
sixx pac Eboue goes mad everytime we score! It depends on the sort of goal, against Bolton it was relief for the second goal, most of the team celebrated the first goal, and sol’s goal at Porto
stu i thinks freddie was pretty solid in chalenges
West Ham have put out a pretty attacking team! Utd with Foster in goal, Neville right back, and Gibson centre mid certainly aren’t at their strongest either!
Still, Utd will probably still win
Theo has the shittest celebration imo…well most annoying anyway. The sliding on his knees thing.
In fact i dont like any of our celebrations except Cescs. All they do is smile and hug eachother. At least Cesc screams his head off and goes balistic.
In general our celebrations, like the fight in the players, are so timid. We are such a nice club…
Haha Foster..he is fucking shit. And Neville too..way past it. Unfortunately West Ham wont win. 3 wins on the bounce is too much to ask from a team that before the weekend hadnt won 2 consecutive(sp) games in about a year.
Well fuck you so!
Whats the score in the other matches tonight?
??
How are our future dup, Chamakh and Gourcuff, playing so far? Someone had better fucking answer!
Something wrong Gooby?
Good post Pedro. Many out there will resort to unorthodox means to make sure we dont make it this year…we have to come out in defense of the club
Geoff, check this out
http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/34622/Fergie_and_Wenger_contest_Barca_for_Brazilian_skipper.aspx
Wenger thought about you and is buying a replacement for Denilson.
Stuttgart 0-0 Barcelona, so far, Mad Jens in goal.
Fuck, I thought that was not a live match….
I am working too hard these days.
Stuttgart 1-0, great cross, good header
Spoke to soon, Stuttgard 1-0 up.
And i fucking missed it! FUck sake!
no stu i was just wondering if that “fuck you” thing was for me?
is hleb playing?
Chamakh looks like a lot of great link up play no end product.
yes hleb is playing
pavel pogrebnyak looks like a good player
We could have had Pogrebnyak on a free too…oh well.
All gone a bit quiet on the share front of late
Did Anderson get sent off or something. Picture kept freezing and only saw him walking down the tunnel.
he’s been subbed the fat cunt
Hope UTD win tonight!
Yeah me too Gambon…West Ham United..
Yes Hleb playing. I hope Barca get fucked up, those arrogant cunts. Did you hear what Guardiola said about us?
“The way I know my players, I don’t need to worry about them taking Stuttgart too lightly. It’s a round of 16 match: Arsenal are almost out, Real are having problems with Lyon and Manchester [United] and Bayern are not in for an easy ride either.”
Legend Lehmann, getting so bored he decided to deflect a shot onto the post before saving it.
Barca are alway better when they have Iniesta dribbling thru the centre with Xavi alongside and big DM looking after them. Iniesta is wasted on the flanks when teams park their half like Stuggart r doing.
Lol Stu I was hoping to cause LG outrage but you saw right through it!
Fucking dirty cheat Marquez.
Sorry i spoiled your fun Gambon..
I’ve not been impressed with Pogrebnyak at all! Cacau looks pretty good, though going forward Stuttgart should’ve scored 3/4, Pog should’ve rolled the ball across when he was on the right side but seems very one footed, should’ve had a pen, and Cacau should’ve passed to put people in for a tap in couple of times.
Barca look terrible defensively
Yeah gambon i was thinking why will you want a win for UTD then Stu pops up with the answer BANG!!
Barca look so bad defensively because Marquez is playing. Do they seriously have so many injuries that he is starting there? No back up right back and im assuming Chygrynskiy and Milito are missing through injury.
Bordeaux scores so many set peice goals. They are a set piece machine…
I hope we dont get them…
Evening fellas, all good I hope?
A
pogrebnyak is indeed one footed, left. he seems like a good “big man forward”
nobody is watching Beaurdux?
Hmmm.
They are 1-0 up against the greeks…Set piece goal…
Milito is on the bench Stu, Maxwell too I’m not sure about, agree about Marquez.
West Ham look as if they actually hold Manure….but I fear Gibson and his long distance shooting accuracy….
West Ham are switching off at times though……just giving the ball away needlessly….
looks like quite a waek manc team
daron gibson
here’s a young united cunt in the making
LOL Keown really struggling with the Stuttgart players names.
Fat Head strikes once again. Please someone just fucking injure the twat!
Fucking idiots West Ham…fucking losers!!!!!!!!!!
cuntshreck scored
I hatethat ugly fat cunt. I bet he does nothing in the world cup
DAMN IT JA! You jinxed it!
west ham will win this
these commentators are arse licking cunts
Rooney will probably score a few each against Slovenia and Algeria and be lauded as world class, player of the tournament etc…and his penalty miss to see Engerland out of the WC will be ignored.
park pass should have never got to berbatov, stupid defending
how is it “outstanding skills” if you miss. fucking wankers
west ham clueless
Stu
Hes beyond world class mate, as much as i hate him.
No team has won the Cl twice in a row, hope Barca go out but Stutgart need a 2nd goal defo
the ref should put a red shirt on
West Ham look like they could give a fuck about this one. Pathetic.
To those chaps who were calling for YAYA Toure, well on that half’s performance, give me Song everyday. Toure is so slow, Song is quicker, as strong and a better passer.
Stuttgart should have closed the tie by now, but Barca are the CL’s luckiest team, and somehow they will scrape through again.
Please don’t give me “they are the best ever” crap. They jammed it at the Chavs, thanks to the World’s worst ever ref performance, and they were equally fortunate in the home leg. Tonight 2 definite penalties refused by another dodgy ref.
They look toothless, disorganised and very slow coming out of defence. Whilst they are missing some fine players, they still have Ibra, Messi Xavi, Iniesta, , and Puyol on the pitch and TH on the bench – supposedly 5 of the best players in the World.
Lasly, the cross for the goal was one of the best I have ever seen.
wash your mouth out gambon
Raddy
Song, like many of our players are good when its all nice and easy and disappear when the going gets tough.
In a CL semi final, or against UTD/Chavs i would take Toure over Song without thinking about it.
45 minutes doesnt define a players ability.
Tbf
Toure is playing like a man who doesnt want to be there.
What so he’s like Masters of the Universe standard ?!
“beyond world class” lol
He’s good, but a level below the top players in the world imo. England’s best player comfortably though
Why is it that teams like West Ham put out 110% effort against us……and then roll over for fucking Manure
Keyser
Even Ming the Merciless is scared of him.
manunited do score some classy goals
The paul scholes one was class last week Franchise
A
This season he is as good as Ronaldo 2007-9, Henry 2002-5, without a doubt.
If RVP was doing what he was doing people would be calling for the ballon d’or.
As someone on here said…it seems as if they are satisfied with their 2 wins in a row and are basically going through the motions so they can hammer Bolton on the weekend….Cmon West Ham I want to see the type of second half performance you put in against us earlier in the season…
They should go at fucking United because this is a good chance for them to get something off them….
Ja
Maybe we are easier to play against than UTD, maybe UTD are better than us.
Off with the tin foil hats.
Psychological edge Ja. United have most teams beat in the tunnel coming out…like we used to when we had all those world class players.
Gambon
He has scored 6 of his 22 gaols against top 10 opponents and he takes penalties, Drogba pisses on the ugly manc cunt
Something like 17 or his 22 goals this season were against bottom half teams…plus his customary goal against us of course.
gooner
Ever though the top 10 have stronger defences? (us excluded).
He’s not fit to clean Henry’s boots gambon
gambon I’d say there’s absolutely a doubt, I’d say he’s not even close to Henry level, just as Ronaldo wasn’t last year, nor the year before. He’s scored alot of goals this season, but gotten fuck all assists, Henry did it all, topped goals and assists, as does Messi in Barca.
Supergunner07 Says:
February 23, 2010 at 20:25
Barca are alway better when they have Iniesta dribbling thru the centre with Xavi alongside and big DM looking after them. Iniesta is wasted on the flanks when teams park their half like Stuggart r doing.
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told u, Pep made the change @ HT
Barcelona just scored
Fuck! I have now missed both goals in the stuttgart-barca match even though i’ve watched most of it.
I still think west ham will get at least a point even against super duper rooney
Supergunner he made the change after the goal…. I agree though, I don’t get why they play with 2 DMs and Iniesta as a forward, they work much better with last year’s system imo
A
I love Henry. He is the greatest player this country has ever seen and shouldve won 1, maybe 2 Ballon D’ors…
But Ronaldo is probably better, and what he did in 07/08 Henry has never gotten anywhere near.
AI’s dribbling compliments Xavi’s passing in that central area.
Hey Big Raddy, This is Toure’s second game after an injury…
Barca are not are their best today…
I always hear ppl saying that Barca were lucky to pass Chelsea last year because of the ref…but I disagree..yeah the ref made mistakes in the second leg..but nobody remembers the first leg where Barca were denied a stone walled penalty when that idiot Bosingwa pulled Henry down in the box….
So I dont subscribe to the whole thing about the ref causing Barca to go thru..its not true…
Chelsea had a game plan….Drogba got many breakaways and missed them all..its fucking Chelsea’s own fault that their “anti football” game plan did not work..if Drogba had finished his chances just like he does against us…then they would have gone through….it seems Drogba just gets a special joy out of fucking up Arsenal for some reason….
then messi must be better still then gambon
west ham were denied a goal in first half, scholes must have been sent off(two footed tackle from back though not even booked), but united 1-0 up. ffs how lucky they can be.
that was a contradiction too gambon. he can’t be the best when you include ronaldo they both played in this country
I’d disagree totally gambon, but I guess it’s all down to opinions!
Ronaldo could do some things that Henry couldn’t, but Henry offered SO much more to the team, whereas Ronaldo is totally individualistic. Ronaldo isn’t fit to clean Henry’s shoes imo, neither is Rooney
Henry was up there with Zidane, proper Ronaldo, Ronaldinho at his best, and Messi is up there too.
Ronaldo is unlikely to ever be that good, and Rooney isn’t currently in that league either imo.
Evening all. I’m watching Barca. Had hoped Bordeaux. Anyone watching that one. Chamakh?
Gooner,
Henry did it for 8 seasons.
And yes, i think Messis better, as ive said a million times.
Gambon, you are clueless. Henry was miles better than CR will ever be.
26,11
22,3
32,7
32,24
39,14
30,17
33,9
CR never got close to those numbers
How much better is rooney now that ladyboy is gone? He helped him and sacrificed personal glory for the wetback gayboy.
henry over ronaldo for me. ronaldo was alos a great player but he lacked that grace and finesse the bergkamps, henry, zidanes etc had
up the hammers
Pat
No offence but youre a retard.
try looking at comparitive ages.
I totally agree with Henry > Ronaldo,
But i think when we look back in 8 years it will be the other way round.
who’s the pundit on setanta? is it tony gale? I want to send him a letter bomb
gambon, CR will never have a season like he did. Even United fans agreed to that. Henry has always been class at club and country level. CR is shit for Portugal
not if he dies of aids gambon
Franchise; agree there. Much more to being great than pure stats. Bergkamp by a country mile for me
lehman is mad
“But Ronaldo is probably better, and what he did in 07/08 Henry has never gotten anywhere near.”
Please say you’re trying to wind people up here.
Even Franchise is saying Henry was better than Ronaldo.
Rooney has 7 headers in 8 fucking games. Talk about awful defending
It’ll be interesting to see what happens with Ronaldo at Madrid, he’s scoring all their goals, but already rumours of teammates falling out with him, and pundits saying earlier on when Madrid were struggling that his selfishness had alot to do with it.
Gambon…..Ronaldo isnt better…when Ronaldo scored 40 goals..he only had 7 assists or so…
Plus he took all penalties and 90% of freekicks…and remember he took freekicks whether they were left side ride side far out or just outside the area….his conversion rate is poor but he scores some just because of the large amount he takes….
As said before Henry had a season where had 30+ goals 20+ assists…….and then 39 goals 14 assists…..that is the most rounded contribution an attacker could ever have….
This season Ronaldo has 18 goals..and 3 fucking assists…..Kaka has 7 assists….Ronaldo is talented yes..but he is a selfish bastard….
he does not contribute as much overall…other players have to sacrifice greatly for him…
Why does the cunt Rooney never get an injury anymore? He always had at least 1 bad injury a season.
he’ll get it just before the wc pat
That makes no difference GM! He’ll do fuck all at the world cup when he plays against a good team. Stats don’t lie. He’s a flat track bully
Keyser
No i meant that part.
In 07/08 Ronaldo took UTD to the league & CL titles, i dont need to remind anyone that we’ve never done the CL before.
Ronaldo scored 8 in 11 CL games, something Henry never did. He scored 31 league goals, again Henry never did.
As it stands, of course Henrys the better player. But by the age of 24 Ronaldo had 2 player of the year trophies, World & Euro player of the year, had won vastly more than Henry.
Comparitively Ronaldos well ahead.
well in the league.. every game is 3 points.. so he’s still doing the business!
Henry took us through a season unbeaton no one’s ever done that
gambon, and internationally? Absolutely nothing.
And Henry scored 30 league goals Gambon.
He scored 8 in 11 in europe in 99/00 and provided 2 assists
7 in 11 in both 01-02 and 02-03 in europe
he’s actually the best player in the world ask gambon pat
Pat
I said CL not Europe, the UEFA cup is hardly high level is it?
I said 31 league goals, which Henry never managed.
Gambon to be fair the player of the year trophies are very opiniated…..based on 39 goals 14 assists and being invincible..Henry hould have won for that year…..
Latin players almost always win those player of the year awards…..so I dont even count that….
Also its not as if Ronaldo single handedly did that..Manure have a very strong defensive base….even when we were at our height I dont think we payed as much attention to defending as Manure and Chelsea do, so that always came back to haunt us somewhat…
goonermichael
I dont know if you have trouble reading but i never said that at all.
gambon – Comparitively ? Henry had won the World Cup and the European Championship before that age.
You’ve just heralded Rooney as probably future Ballon d’Or winner and then gone on to say Ronaldo took United to those Premiership and Champions League titles.
Comparitively, Rooney scored 18 goals in 43 games in the 07-08 season, Tevez scored 19 in 48 in the 07-08 season.
Rooney without Ronaldo has 27 goals in 35 games alone this season, Tevez at Man Citeh has already scored 19 goals in 30 games this season.
It’s like saying Ronaldo’s got 18 goals in 19 games this season, thats a goal a game almost he must be the greatest, without mentioning he plays alongside Kaka and in the most expensively assembled side in History.
west ham aren’t that good really are they?
Chamakh is just decent player…nothing more.
And I am outraged Arsene threw away the season to get an Average player like that.
How did he fair against the English Ref Howard Webb?
Couldnt really stay on his feet with his back against defense…link up play is fantastic…but certainly doesnt look like scoring unless you cross to him.
gambon that was a wind up
Keyser
Your whole post makes virtually no sense, but nice try.
nedved won player of the year that was a fucking disgrace
West Ham didn’t play Parker, fearing a suspension for yellow cards. He was 1 away. Cunts.
Gambon, 01-03 was CL
Nedved was awesome. Maybe it was a tough year!
Manure play on…..when a West Ham defender lay on the ground……….
Fucking pieces of shit and the commenatators and media dont care…….
gambon – Poor effort there, it’d be nice if you were to tell me why ?!
Henry had won the World Cup and European Championship at a younger age, Ronaldo may never do that.
Rooney right now might be on Ballon d’Or form, Ronaldo had both him and Tevez sacrificing themselves to help him achieve what he did.
The same with Kaka now.
Keyser
I agree, and Henry had a team built around him. Thats what you do with a world class player.
Youre only arguing to defend the honour of Arsenal. if I said UTD had a bigger stadium than us you would probably try to argue the point.
Yeah Keyser..its so obvious….Ronaldo had not one but two players sacrificing their game to suit him…
For me a truly great player brings the best out in his teamates and as well as himself….
Pele did that, Maradona I think did that too….
Bergkamp did that
Zidane did that, Ronaldo de Lima(somewhat), Ronaldinho definetely did as well…..and Lionel Messi does it much more than Cristiano for sure…
gambon – Then you should be able to argue your point back, what you’re doing is like me saying ‘gambon you’re a retard’ why ? Well because my point’s better than yours and your a closet United fan.
“But Ronaldo is probably better, and what he did in 07/08 Henry has never gotten anywhere near.”
Thats just complete bullshit.
Henry helped get the best out of ljungberg, pires, vieira, bergkamp.
Ronaldo is an incredibly talented, but very selfish and individualistic player who stifles everyone he plays with.
Henry and Ronaldo are opposites in that respect.
If Henry had been that selfish and individualistic he would’ve scored more goals than Ronaldo did, and Pires/Ljungberg/Bergkamp would’ve suffered from it, just as Rooney did at Utd, and Kaka et al are doing at Madrid
Totally agree GM. The year Nedved won it, TH was head & shoulders the best in the World.
.
West ham are shit
Raddy
If you look at the winners thay always come from Italy and Spain except for Owen and ladyboy if I remember rightly.
so has nayone seen this chamack player how good is he realy
Theme Song To Arsene Wenger…
This Summer no Fucking About Arsene.
OK Keyser,
I will totally agree with you if you can tell me the last time Henry scored 42 goals, won Euro & World player of the year & scored in a CL final was?
No…didnt think so.
I can understand you not agreeing with it, but to say its ‘complete bullshit’ is well complete bullshit.
Or lets look at this season;
Henry ; 3 in 21
Ronaldo; 18 in 19
fuckin west ham … piece of shit team …
don’t hold your breath David
“WHU are shit” ….. nothing new there!
This “next Bergkamp” kid we’re after does have some classy moments. Seems like he does his roulettes with very little effort. His shots look natural and effortless as well.
http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/4847182/
Well, according to the pundit on Sky Sports, Chamkh is a quality player and will add something we dont have…. A striker!!
A;
Totally agree. Henry was a very unselfish player, the amount of assists he made as well as goals he scored himself were amazing.
Rooney aint as good as CRonaldo though, he’s had a good season,l but what with the English media’s help, he will soon be talked about as the best player in the world, which is bollocks really…
A..it was not only Rooney that suffered….
Teves suffered as well…..
Teves did not score many goals at Manure..but he scored important goals for them…..he started slowly at Man City but now Teves is scoring alot of goals for them…
So 2 player stats suffered in order for Cristiano to build his….
Ladyboy comes from very near Spain, and Owen was a mistake
Did we really expect UTD to drop points tonight?
They will certainly slip up again this season, but WHU at home was never gonna be that.
Its just to obvious that 4th was our target again this season. Fuckin’ Mugs.
Once again…theyre happy to keep it close and say we were just 4 points from winning the Leauge.
Fucking Mug…I want to win the league by 10 points not lose it by chicken change.
gambon winning player of the year is a subjective thing becuase it’a a matter of opinion. when has ronaldo won a world cup an european championship?
Henry is fucked now how can you compare them this season?
ManG
Chamakh is a very good player, but I wonder if he will score enough goals, particularly in tough games where you have to take your chances.
CFs who dont score prolifically have to be damn good in other areas to make up for the lack of goals.
Gambon are you really comparing 25 year old Cristiano with 33 year old Henry…
Are you crazy?
As said before other players have to sacrifice their games for Cristiano to shine…
And dont mention the awards…they are a matter of opinion…..If they were based on stats then Henry would have won in the invincible year…
gambon – You called Pat a retard and said you were comparing ages, Henry had won the World Cup and European Championship by what age ?! Has Ronaldo done that by the same age ? Well not unless he buys himself a Delorian and some downgraded Plutonium.
Oh that doesn’t count does it ? You said Henry > Ronaldo, then oh no, he’s not, what he done in one season Henry’s never got close to, wait a min, Messi’s better, Rooney’s awesome, but ignore him the year Ronaldo was there, because Ronaldo did it on his own, the team was built around Henry, but Ronaldo managed United himself to a title and Champions League success..
The gambon bulsshit train rattles on. Hopefully Franchise is saving posts so he can quote you later on.
miserable manc cnut
Gambon;
Yeah, I was about to say the same thing…. I never thought for a minute that West ham would even be up for this tonight… A very cold night in the frozen north??? No chance!
United will drop more points no doubt about that…
Henry got 39 goals in a season, and way more assists, as well as doing much more for the team.
Far more impressive than the 42 goals in an incredibly individualistic season for Ronaldo imo
World player of the year etc means nothing, it doesn’t mean a player is any better or worse than anyone else
Henry scored 39 and did way more in a team that didn’t win the champions league, so wasn’t as good, and played less games
gambon, CR will never score 30+ and assist 20+. End of argument really. Henry did that consistently. CR has never done that.
I don’t know if it’s important but ronaldo takes it up the arse as well
…………..as well as in the mouth
I’ve been in hairdressing for 38 years and I know one when I see one.
The kid has a great shot as well.
Chamakh a very good player? Maybe?
Certainly not the greatest goal scoring threat you would find.
Another typical Wenger signing who can play the tippy tappy football.
I was hoping for a player with a put the fucking ball behind the net attitude.
David;
Woahhhh there fella!!! Unless your name is McFly and you have just jumped out of your De Lorean flux capacity powered time machine and know what happens come May, you are being way too hasty mate!!! The season aint finished and the chavs and mancs will drop points for sure…. We just have to concentrate on our own games obviously… But still, chill fella!
Gambon;
I think Chamakh will be a far better signing than Ade and he didnt do too badly, apart from the shite attitude! Plus I dont think his only pre-requisite is to score, like RvP at the beginning of this season was doing well, without scoring goals, as the likes of Arshy, Cesc and Diaby can get the goals, his hold up play creates… Just my opinion, though… Who really knows, well, apart from David McFly!!!
Are Arshavin and Diaby back for stoke?
Keyser, ill break it down to help you understand;
- Henry is the better player overall
- Ronaldos 07/08 season was better than Henry has ever had (on an individual level)
- I think Ronaldo may end his career as a better player
- Ronaldo had achieved more at age 24 than Henry
Fuck sake Keyser!!! You used the Back to the future thing too!!!
GM:Ronaldo was the original Euro-Boy!!
rooney is man thats on fire he always been top player but he has sumprised it not think he could moan striker but is has the complete came and he is carrying manu pretty much he realy 25 goals a season player and players like henry and rvp can do the same and rinaldo i have seen winger he could carry team the way he did he is a real top top player dont get players this to often not this good
goonermichael;
Erm, probably not, althoug Eduardo will be, so all good mate!
I think we will do Stoke…
Actually, I think Arshy could well be back for the weekend…
Ahahahaaha
Ever the optimist ManG
I reckon we would finish 2nd.
If pompey go bust up…thats 6 points gone.
Gambon, Henry had the World cup and Euro at that age already. Something CR will never have.
Ronaldo’s 07/08 season, individually, was not better than Henry’s consistent 30 goal, 20 assist seasons. Overall, Henry was involved in much more goals for the team.
David;
I dont really think we can slate Wenger too much for his choice of attacking players, in the main, he has a pretty good track record there… I thought Ade would struggle to score 5 league goals a season…
Haha! Green Street is on TV! What a bag of shite that film is…
No need to worry about Pompey.
They will more than likely stay in Admin til the end of the season. If theyre gonna liquidate theyll do it in May/June.
David, for United and Chelsea as well though.
Drogba pisses all over Rooney imo. Rooney’s record against the actual good teams speaks for itself. Drogba actually has more goals/min. ratio than Rooney
David;
Well, until it is mathematically impossible, I will still feel we have a real chance… There are still some very difficult games ahead for the chavs and United, as well as us, of course, plus there is the Champions league to consider too… And the fact the chavs are imploding too!
gambon – On an individual level now ? Mate you’ve said Henry should have won a couple of Ballon D’Ors, you contradict yourself, which officially he didn’t.
Break it down as much as you want, I don’t think you fully understand yourself what you’re saying.
At age 24 Henry had achieved more Internationally then Ronaldo will probably ever achieve, you can look at it like that, or you can voice your own opinion on how good each player was.
How can you say someone didn’t come close, when they scored 3 goals less individually and wer by far the more unselfish player ?!
I was very optimistic about the tittle until the thing with Pompey.
Looking like a long shot.
We need Chelsea to lose not draw.
Green Street must have the gayest football hooligans in history…
Chavs really struggled against Wolves. 2 shots on target and 2 goals. They won’t be getting that lucky all the time. I’d be surprised if they can even draw Inter. We all know Drogba struggles against big, physical CBs, which is why he’s always shit at the ACN.
Samuel and Lucio were, and still are, very good CBs.
Pat
Im not in the least slightest bit concerned about Utd.
Aye
ManG
Youre a better man than I am then! Hope can be a horrible mistress.
Record goalscorer for club and country. Don’t give me this CR is a winger bullshit either.
Henry even played deeper than him!!!
ManG
Its funny isnt it. The Geordie bloke trying to be a proper GSE firm leader.
Such a silly film.
Honestly i dont understand why we are having this CR and Henry debate.
There is no question who is the better player.
Ronaldo would never have another season like he did in 07.
That was a one-off. Henry however was always consistent.
David;
Oh it is fella, it is!
Pat;
I always thought Samuel was a fucking top top class CB…. Only at Real Madrid could a player like that be made to look shite!
that cunt rooney got 2 goals again
Keyser/Pat
Youre comparing what Henry achieved in his career with what Ronaldo has done at 24. Which is a bit silly/unfair.
Also Henry wasnt even first choice for Les Blues in WC98 so that is irrelevant, he had no effect on them winning, where as Ronaldo single handedly won them trophies at the age of 22/23 which is incredible.
David
Fitness is the only thing stopping Ronaldo haveing one of them seasons right now.
gambon – Heh, you’re bored, I feel silly now, it’s soo easy to wind us Arsenal fans up. The net eh, so hard to tell online.
Yeah Pat Ronaldo had license to roam anywhere he wanted ….unlike Valencia who stays on the fucking wing….
Valencia is setting up a lot of Rooneys goals though..maybe he is the one that should get injured…
2 wide open against Milan and 2 wide open today. Awful, awful defending.
fitness and attitude gambon….
Ronaldo has the natural ability to be as good if not better than Henry, but nowhere near the intelligence or attitude to get near that level imo
Stéphane Guivarc’h must be a better player than CRonaldo…
pat i think you will find that prior to this season rooney was guilty of doing to much and fergi said several times rooney needed to alot more selfish he tracked back in defence played in midfield play wide very work horse he is kind of player i would love at arsenal the difference this season he told to higher up the pitch and concentrate on just being loan striker so although drgba has better stats than him he tended to alot more dragba
Gambon…you said Ronaldo single handedly won Manure trophies….
Hell fucking NO!!!!
1. Rooney and Teves sacrificed their games and did all the hard work and tackling…
2. Manure have a very good defense and goal keeper over those years…
Manure mainly bases their game on defensive solidity first….they are not like us who say ” we will out score you” If they were that type of team..then yeah I would agree that Ronaldo did it….
BUT HE FUCKING DIDNT….
I AM NOT EVEN COMPARING RIGHT NOW..i AM JUST TALKING ABOUT CRISTIANO….HE IS THE TYPE OF PLAYER THAT CAN ONLY FLOURISH IF OTHERS IN THE TEAM SUFFER INDIVIDUALLY..
I guess it is Fergie displine. He might have told Valencia to stay at by line. That creates lot space and he is very good at that.
Ja_Gunner – He’s taking the piss, don’t get too upset.
I cannot see Pompey being allowed to fold…. It would be such a PR disaster and therefore, marketing, revenue, cache, etc for the Premier league, that they will do theur utmost to prevent that eventually from every happening…
As Gambon says, it may happen in the summer, but not a chance of it happening during the season… It would make a mockery of the claims that its the best league in the world, yadda yadda and be a huge embarrassment to boot…
Yeah I must be taking the piss;
Suggesting that the most expensive player in history, the player who was world & euro player of the year at age 23, and has scored 110 goals in his last 175 games may become a better player than Henry is just ludicrous.
Its like suggesting Ali Dia is better than george Weah.
Maurya, no its not. Staying by the touchline is Valencia’s game and always has been, even when he plays on the wing for Ecuador.
Drogba has more assists than Rooney as well. RVP does too.
The fact is that the PL will probably never see an attacking player such as Henry. Goals of a natural striker and the assists of a trequarista(however thats spelled)
You dunt run… You staaaan your grand an fite….
Fucking sooooo gay…. Hahaha!
Not quite sure why everyone goes on about Henrys assists, he had a couple of seasons where he went crazy but apart from that he was around 7 or 8.
“Also Henry wasnt even first choice for Les Blues in WC98 so that is irrelevant, he had no effect on them winning, where as Ronaldo single handedly won them trophies at the age of 22/23 which is incredible.”
gmabon – After that and you accusing me of defending Arsenla’s Honour, heh, what the fuck do you expect me to think ?!
Suggesting he may become better is one thing, writing stuff like that is taking the piss.
“We don’t leave our friends behind!!”
pat i dont think you can compare rooney rinaldo drogba these top players i have drogba and rooney at arsenal i would take those over bretana and thoe any day
Keyser
“taking the piss”
What saying Henry was a squad player at France 98…when he was.
Arsenal…. Great football, shit firm…
Gambon, again you’re just talking about goals. Take into account the amount of goals players are involved in. Kaka has assisted half of CR’s goals. Don’t know if thats true, but a friend of mine, who is a Madrid fan, told me. I’m guessing he was being sarcastic, but still.
Gambon, what does the price of a player say? Nothing. Vieira could have easily broken Zidane’s transfer record(officially), but we probably received huge offers for Henry as well. Take into account we’re talking about Madrid here who pay over the odds for everyone.
Tottenham…shit football AND a shit firm.
gambon – Saying being a World Cup winner is irrelavent, while holding up Ronaldo as the sole reason for any of Uniteds recent success.
Gambon, Henry was known for being more of an assister than a goalscorer before he even came to Arsenal.
Even at Barca. 26 goals and 13 assists last season. 36 goals including international
United scoring more goals than they ever did with CR this season. The argument that he won them trophies goes out the window there.
The defense won them the trophies.
I don’t think I’ve met any United fan who has even thought about CR being better than Henry and I know a quite a few of them.
Nice one Tariq! I missed that one fella!
Agree with Gabon on this CR9 thing. He is a very good player that in all likelihood will surpass Henry.
Its unfair to compare their International accomplishments. Henry was not 1st choice as stated above in WC’98 or Euro 2000, and at any rate, if you look at who surrounded Henry on the pitch; Zizou,Viera,Gallas,Thuram,Petit etc etc, there was so much class their which it must be said CR9 comes no where to enjoying with Portugal.
Maybe its because he has actually left Manure and gone to Madrid that my hatred for the man has started to soften. PLus I can’t believe Kaka, a player I thought with more class than Ronaldo, is looking distinctly 2nd best in that team now.
Gambon
Ronaldo was fit last season. He didnt score 30 goals.
Having had a proper look at it statistically there is no comparison.
At the same ages Ronaldo is light years ahead of Henry, its not even a debatable point.
Haha! No problem. That one stuck out the most to me
Last stat for now:
For Barca last season, Henry scored 6 goals and assisted 4 in 12 CL games.
51 goals and 29 assists for France in 117 apps.
Until it happens, which I doubt it will, CR shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same sentence as Cantona, Henry, Bergkamp, Zidane, Figo, etc.
David
Neither did Henry at age 23/24.
zeus, its not a surprise. Players become worse when they play with CR.
I still rate Kaka over him and his recent form has been better than CR’s. CR may be scoring, but Kaka has assisted his last 4 goals from open play.
Gambon, post the statistics. DOn’t just talk
Pat, i agree with the Henry thing but Bergkamp has never been anywhere near either.
* well i dont agree with the Henry thing but i can understand it, not DB10 though.
LOl
Gambon…In that case why dont we Mention Ade into the conversation.
gambon – Of course it’s debatable, you just wish it wasn’t.
At CR’s age Henry was scoring 26,22, and 33 goals and providing 11, 3, 7 assists.
After those season Henry exploded. CR already had his best season. Internationally, CR is just shit. That speaks volumes really.
A player should perform well for both. Portugal isn’t a 3rd rate team. They’ve knocked England out the past 2 times they’ve met.
Really Gambon? Why are Henry, Bergkamp, Cantona (order changed at every poll) always in the top 3 PL players of all time?
Kaka is just class personified, I am truley flabbergasted that he hasn’t looked the player of Milan. If any one of them was to settle sooner it should have been Kaka, not Cr9.
I have to say though, after watching a few Madrid games, CR9 is passing the ball a lot more than he ever did at Man Utd.
Is it possible that some of you are judging him based on what he did at Manure?
Pat – both players by age 24;
Henry;
Games; 261
Goals; 79
League Goals; 57
Individual Honours; none
Best Season; 26 in 47
Ronaldo;
Games; 323
Goals; 123
League Goals; 87
Individual Honours; World player of year, Ballon Dor, 2x FWA Player of year
Best Season; 42 in 49
Pat
Actually Zola beats bergkamp a lot of the time.
From the BBC: Note the 40% goals he was involved in directly(goal or assist). I think he holds the assist record in the PL as well.
But Bergkamp’s game is about much more than just goals, as highlighted by his tally of assists.
He has kept every team he has played in ticking over, threading passes through the eye of a needle to release team-mates with an all-seeing vision and in his first four years at Arsenal he played a part in more than 40% of their goals.
Manager Arsene Wenger has described him as having “intelligence and class” on the field.
“Class is linked to what you can do with the ball, but intelligence makes you use the technique in an efficient way. What he does, there’s always a head and a brain.”
Pat
When Henry did his run of 26,22,32
Ronaldo has done 42, 26, 18 in 19 so far.
Miles better.
Gambon, those stats prove Henry was a better goalscorer and definitely better at assisting(don’t need stats for that, its well known).
Henry with a ratio of .303 and CR with a ratio of .269. Thats including CR’s career season as I guarantee you he won’t have another one like that.
Pat
You struggle with the concept of time frames.
Lets compare the bugatti Veyron with a Ford Cortina!
Or the current olympic archery champ with Robin Hood.
Gambon, those ratios are from the years you gave me!!!!!!!
@ Gambon
Dont think you should be counting Balon dor or individual awards.
Henry was just unlucky. When he was at his peak, he was competing with Zidane, Ronaldo(the real one), Ronaldinho and Shevchenko. Still think its a travesty that he has never won the award.
The game is devoid of many stars at present, outside of Messi, Cr9 and Kaka no one really operates in that superstar stratus fare. If Thierry was at his peak now, no way he doesn’t win that award.
Oh no probs pat,
Well that means you struggle with Maths.
Pat – both players by age 24;
Henry;
Games; 261
Goals; 79
League Goals; 57
Individual Honours; none
Best Season; 26 in 47
Ronaldo;
Games; 323
Goals; 123
League Goals; 87
Individual Honours; World player of year, Ballon Dor, 2x FWA Player of year
Best Season; 42 in 49
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Ahh, my mistake I took the league goals category. But that includes CR’s career season! He will NEVER get better than that or match it. Henry’s worst was during those years and he exploded after that. CR has actually gotten worse since his 42 goal season. Now the ratios of the assists please? In terms of being involved in goals, Henry pisses all over CR.
Pat
As i said, Ronaldos goal ratio this year is better than either he or henry have ever had so the idea that he cant do it anymore couldnt be further from the truth.
As far as assists goas Henry has 53 in 261, so about 8-10 in a 40-50 game season. Not sure about Ronaldo.
As for “Henry’s worst was during those years” well thats cos he was a younger player, as was Ronaldo, hence comparing them at the same point in their careers.
Also, your stats are shady.
26 in 47, 22 in 53, and 32 in 49 equals 80 in 149 gives a ratio of .537.
CR had 118 in 302, which gives him a .391 ratio
I’m off now see you all later.
ronaldo is a cheating little cunt who’s not fit to wipe Henry’s arse let alone go anywhere near his boots. just watch videos of some of Henry’s moments of brilliance like the flick turn and goal against the mancs. he set up jeffers 3 times when he could have scored himself so that jeffers could score against his old club in the last game of the season.
Looks like 51 assists for Ronaldo in the same period.
gambon, can’t compare them now. CR doesn’t play in the PL anymore.
But those stats I just posted were up until both players were 24.
Gambon
Forlan scores loads in spain and he’s shit. Henry is fucked with a back problem and he still scored a few last year
Lol Pat
Thats the most stupid thing youve ever said, which is quite something.
Henry had 92 assists in 226 games
Lol, Pat
You just dont get it.
Pat
Are you pretending to be thick?
The 226 is his goals. The 92 is his total assists throughout his Arsenal career.
You are even reading Wiki wrong.
Gambon, what say you of the ratios? Surely they don’t lie.
.537 is much better than .391, is it not? Both were 24 years old in their Arsenal/United careers.
Pat what are you talking about.
Ive already told you the ratios up to the age of 24. Ronaldos is better than Henry.
Ah fuck you Gambon lol. I’m a bit tired. But the goal stats are correct…I think.
.537 is better than .391 and thats the stat that matters.
92 assists in 369. I got it wrong because other players don’t have 3 columns, they only have 2.
Again Pat using stats from his whole arsenalo career vs Ronaldo up to the age of 24 is ridiculous.
Ronaldo at 24 pisses all over Henry at 24.
Gambon, 26+32+22= 80. 47+53+49= 149 games. 80/149 = .537 ratio for Thierry Henry.
6+9+12+23+42+26= 118 goals. 40+50+47+53+49+53= 292. 118/292= .404 ratio for CR
Questions?
Not his whole Arsenal career you idiot. See my previous post. 3 fucking seasons, up until he was 24 vs. CR’s entire United career(24 yrs. old).
Pat
Why are you using 3 seasons for henry and 6 for ronaldo?
Henrys should read
3 + 3 + 10 + 11 + 1 + 3 + 26 + 22 = 79goals
8 + 22 + 48 + 44 + 19 + 20 + 47 + 53 = 261 games
Or you could take ronaldos equivalent seasons between 21-24
91 goals in 155 games.
Either way its better than TH
how is it fair to use Ronaldos stats from when he was 18/19 but only Henrys from when he was 22, 23 and 24?
Gambon, you’re using Henry’s Juve stats so its irrelevant. Both careers up to when they were 24 at Arsenal/United.
.537 > .404. Henry pisses all over him. Funny how you didn’t include the 32 goals season haha. You’re a Manc.
Argument was at their clubs(United and Arsenal up to when they were 24). Henry > CR, no argument really.
gambon – When did Henry turn 24 ?! ..and where have you ended your stats ?!
Why Gambon, CR still played the 40-55 odd games at that age so he was obviously a part of the team. Same amount of games as Henry actually!
Stop trying to skew stats. Age isn’t an issue if you’re good enough. CR wouldn’t get that many games if he wasn’t good enough.
keyser, its when they were 24. before their 25th birthday. Henry was 24 at the end of the 2002 season.
Ok, allowing for Henrys 01/02 season….Ronaldo still has better stats.
Ronaldo 0.38 goals per game, Henry 0.35 goals per game.
Pat mate, valiant effort, but you are so wrong.
And if we include Henrys 01/02 then you have to include some of Ronaldos stats this season.
Why even bother arguing…yeah Cristiano hit his peak earlier than TH…..thats for sure
Messi has also hit his peak at an earlier age…..
Lets see how long it lasts though…..
CR is a good player but again I say….other players suffer when he shines…..unlike Henry Messi Ronaldinho Zidane Bergkamp etc etc etc……..Those guys actually make their teammTES BETTER
AND AGAIN MANURE GAINED MOST OF THEIR SUCCESS BECAUSE THEY BASED THEIR GAME ON SOLID DEFENSE AND GOOD GOALKEEPERS…..(SCHMICHAEL & VAN DER SAR)
IT WAS A STRING 13-14 CLEAN SHEETS THAT GOT THEM THE TITLE ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION…
Gambon, its .537 including 01-02 for Henry!!!
CR is already 25 and different team/league!
Nice effort at skewing stats you Manc, but .537 is clearly better than .404
Ja
I dont know about Messi hitting his peak early, that guy is just class.
Will go down in history as one of the best IMO
And the most important thing is those years were henry’s worst while they were CR’s best and he will never score 42 again.
ALSO WITH CR GONE..MANURE ARE ACTUALLY SCORING MORE GOALS…
THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THEIR DEFENSE IS NOT AS GOOD THIS YEAR (BECAUSE OF INJURIES, AGE ETC….)
HOPEFULLY WE CAN OVERTAKE AGAIN IN THE GOAL SCORING STAKES ATLEAST
Pat
You have selected 3 seasons from the first 8 of Henrys career, thats called skewing stats.
Tell me their respective ratios for all games played up until their 25th birthday?!!
Oh no cos that wouldnt work too well would it.
Pat
best vs worse is retarded.
They were both young and nowhere near their peak. Ronaldo wouldve scored 40 again this year fitness permitting.
Gambon, CR gets an extra half season like that. Henry’s b-day was beginning of the season.
Its not called skewing stats when the argument was about their careers at Arsenal/United up until they were 24.
That was established earlier on
Who said anything about Arsenal vs UTD, we were talking about who the better player was at that age.
Gambon and we would have easily won the league fitness permitting. Don’t give me that bullshit.
Gambon we are talking about class players overall…Messi Henry etc….
BUt what I mean is Messi has hit his peak at 21+
Cristiano hit his peak at 23 or so
Ronaldo de Lima also hit his peak very early at 19/20+
Zidane hit his peak at 26
Ronaldinho hit his at about 24
Thats how it is different players reach their potential at diff times….it obvious Thierry never hit his until about 25…..you have to compare the peak years….Yes Ronaldo is still going through his….
so lets see how long it lasts how it fits into his current team obviously he not in some of the other guys league just yet
gambon – “They were both young and nowhere near their peak. Ronaldo wouldve scored 40 again this year fitness permitting.”
..and if Henry was at his peak today playing alongside Kaka, and the rest of the Madrid team and in Spain, he’d score about 60.
How do you compare that, the stats are a lot closer than you’ll ever want to admit, what’s different is the teams and squads they played for, the leagues and the differences between the leagues.
Ronaldo might score 40 again, but in Spain thats something completely different and in todays game are you really going to sit there and say he did it single handedly with all the players and money Real Madrid have ?!
henry better than ronaldo= fact. Zidane best player ever=fact.
i think that juan roman riquelme is the most underrated player in the recent history of the game.
just needed to throw that.
Fitness permitting, Henry used to get battered silly playing up against the defences back then, and he wasn’t a diving cheating twat, but will that go in the record books ? Fuck no.
Henry got battered silly yet everyone left Ronaldo well alone yeah?
zidane is the best player to ever grace the earth, i agree. in fact it goes to me
1.zidane
2.maradona
3.pélé
4.di stephano
5.cruff
6.real ronaldo
7.becknbaur
8.muller
9.neives denilson
Maradona > Zidane for me.
Neves Denilson should be 6th.
gambon – Are you kidding me ? He’s always on the floor, because he loves it, because it means he can get up and take a penalty or a free-kick, even on the week-end he got clipped, realised about a second later and then jumped to the floor.
Who’s going to disagree that when Henry first came to the league, the league was far more physical then it is today ?! Are you saying it wasn’t ?!
Keyser
We’re talking about 2000-2007 not 1962.
gambon – and ? A period where we had about 60 red cards, whereas we haven’t had one all season now.
gambon
i knew it, he is too low on my list
Thats cos we’re full of pussies.
Is the league still as rough as it was even a few years ago ? I don’t think so, do I think Spain’s going to be even rougher for Ronaldo ? erm No, not that either.
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Anyways got to get up in 5 hours so goodnight, fun as always.
Try not to dream about Henry & CRs wiki stats.
Gambon..Pele>Maradona for me
Pele was a more complete player….Maradona was very left sided…..
Pele was only 1-2 inches taller than Maradona but yet he was supreme in the air as well…He used to out jump 6footers and score diving headers along with displaying dribbling skills just as good as Maradona…
Also Pele could use both left and right foot equally well…
Remember Maradona had to cheat to win the one World Cup he did win….
Gooby Says:
February 24, 2010 at 00:20
zidane is the best player to ever grace the earth, i agree. in fact it goes to me
1.zidane
2.maradona
3.pélé
4.di stephano
5.cruff
6.real ronaldo
7.becknbaur
8.muller
9.neives denilson
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One problem, where is Denilson 15?
eboue should be on that list
heres my list
1. Denilson
2. almunia
3. Fabianski
Top 3 keepers in the World atm: Fabianski, Casillas, Almunia
Top 3 Strikers: Drogba, Bendtner, Villa
Top 3 playmakers: Cesc, Eboue, Denilson
Top 3 defenders: Silvestre, Terry, Lucio
speaking of villa,did u see his second goal against getafe. Best ive seen so far
top 3 keepers-Cesar,buffon,casillas
Top 3 strikers-Torres,drogba,villa
top 3 playmakers-Cesc,xavi,iniesta
top3 defenders-Nesta,pique,terry
NISH
1 out of 1`2 aint bad
well just wait on that until the off season it might very well be 0-12 next season
Morning All
Nishanth,No Messi in playmaker category.
when will rooney stop scoring goals?
after ronaldo,its rooney who is carrying manu…how unlucky r we?
and stuttgart played like arsenal in most of the game,in context of missing so many chances against barca..
stuttgart shoud have won 4-1
Don’t worry ethan.Denilson will step up
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5902700,00.html
Sabeel-Messi is more of winger or a supporting striker.Not exactly a playmaker.
Hleb was excellent for the first 60 minutes yesterday.Rarely gave the ball away and attacked with intent(He doesn’t do that often).Wonderful to watch him play.
nishanth
i think Messi can practically play anywhere…
thats why i asked
Did you watch bordeaux play yesterday?Chamakh looked okay.He is a good player but doesn’t add any extra quality to the squad.He does win a lot of headers though
No i couldnt
but majority people say,he is ‘okay’ type of player..
But difficult to judge,how he would perform in our team.
bordeaux arent arsenal really..so hopefully he will be better in our team..
cant believe a over rated,but really average ibramohovic joined barca…and now he is scoring quite a many goals for them…
similarly hoping chamakh bangs it in,more often,when he plays in our team…
forget chamakh….the useless togo twat got 30 goals becos of our midfield/fabregas…
so chamakh should do the same..
Ibrahimovic is actually pretty good.Not worth 65million that barca paid for him though.
Chamakh’s link up play is good but we already have too many strikers who are good at that.We need a proper goalscorer(torres,villa,higuain,etoo) but then these type of players would cost a lot and wenger won’t be tha interested
see the 1st comment
http://i49.tinypic.com/140yvxt.jpg
nishanth
think again,just look at out status NOW,we cant say that,when we need chamakh IMO
for situations like these which we are since months with no Striker,
half of them are either injured all the time..season after season..
i reckon now on,we begin and plan the season thinking RVP is not in our team
evry1s drunk again
denilson
“We lost two games against Manchester United in the Champions League but we learned from both,” said the Brazilian.
So somehow we’ve learned to beat them in the C.L but we cant beat them for some reason on a regular home game ?
is that what he’s saying to me ?
eg
You dont rate him
You hate him
Still why do you quote him?
yh most probably
bnsb ?
logic ?
i don’t rate almunia or ade before him but i sure as shite will tell ya
and it’s not a matter rating a player or not , im diligent enough to know he’s not good enough currently in the role wenger needs him to fill ..
maybe in time he will be an excellent player .
but he isnt now .. and i sure as hell wouldnt be picking topics like boys to men !
because he is the main example of its failings
bnsb Says:
February 24, 2010 at 08:59
eg
You dont rate him
You hate him
Still why do you quote him?
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sorry didnt answer the question ..
because its a fuckin laugh