So we beat Sunderland, great stuff, we are back in the race, we have the easier run in, but we still have to put the points on the board, so what do we make of Eboue?
So the boss does his trademark smirk and says we were booing him a year ago and now we love him.
Okay, Eboue has indeed been a revelation at right back this last 2 games, but we always said he was a good right back, so what’s changed then? What is different since the Wigan game when he got booed off the pitch?
Well first of all we always said his best position was right back, not right wing, nothing’s changed there, when he got booed off, he was not playing right back, he was playing left wing and giving the ball away, I was at that game and the rumblings were beginning long before he got taken off, the rumblings were for Wenger and his crazy selection that day, Wenger subbed the sub and in my opinion cynically put Eboue there in the firing line. Yes he was woeful, but in my opinion poor old Eboue was just made the scapegoat.
Go back to my post the day after and read it! If you don’t believe me that is.
Now if Eboue plays that well in training and then plays rubbish on match days then he needs hitting hard with a cricket bat. That’s why they are paid so much, to play like he did on Saturday. Me, I would play him all the time at right back because this last two games, he has made the difference, credit where credit’s due, keep it up Eboue.
If I had to ask him a big favour though, it would be to stop the rolling around in pain rubbish, it’s the one thing that does stop him being as popular with us as he is with his team mates, stay on your feet mate, it’s not that hard.
I had a problem with a steward again, just when we said they were getting Ok, one comes out and treats me like a football hooligan, these guys need to remember who pays their wages, I let him know that, and hope he accepted it, he did look a tad shocked. Remember the days when they were just there to show you to your seat???
We’re good mates with 3 or 4 of them at Highbury, we even used to get them a beer and we knew each other by name.
Half time entertainment at the Grove
I read a letter that Paul, a Grover got from Arsenal regarding Club level next season, from next year we’ll all get a free programme, if we renew before the 8th of March, we’ll get a brass plate on out seats with our name on it, but hurry, there’s a waiting list, why do Arsenal continue to lie? If we had a waiting list, we wouldn’t be offered all these trinkets, Ivan, save your money, buy a few players that will see us competing on 4 fronts, that will see me renew, not a programme and a name plate. Bah, piffle!
A lot to think about before we play Stoke, but let’s enjoy the Sunderland win first, well played Eboue, keep it up and you could end up becoming a legend!
Have a great day Grovers, it will be a slow week I reckon!
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A
I think i misread the Article then
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-we-have-investigated-injury-problems
I think we have so much energy left towards the end f matches because we generally start slowly. Apparently only 1 goal in the first 15minutes of matches all season proves it.
Barca are the opposite. Come flying out, are 3 up by half time and coast for the second half.
a no offence but thoe could with a few years int e gym so could nasri and vela but wenger likes small and nible but to me juts like light weights to me
David,
Size and strength are not overly synonomous.
As a footballer you would never want to be too big, just strong.
I never said that Keyser…just that maybe we dont do enough. Obviously i dont know what they do in training but they all seem to be pretty small imo.. Maybe its just an individual thing though and depends on the player.
People aren’t going to like this but I think we have been very unlucky over the years, and this couple with having such a young inexperienced team means we put extra strain on our older players.
We’ve had several long term injuries to key players in short amounts of time, we play 50-60 games a season because we are pretty good and the younger players are to.
Though when it comes to the big games, we want the most experienced players playing and even when they’ve played 20-30 odd games in a row we’re forced to try and eek out another one.
You can’t keep doing that, because at some point something’s going to snap. It’s like Fabregas, if you watch how he’s developed, I’d say he’s bulked up and shown progress every year, but from 18-22 and playing as many games as he has the strain starts to tell, but because he’s one of the best players in the World you don’t want to leave him out.
Stu
We were the opposite last season. I seem to recall we scored very early last season all the time. And i think we could credit that to Walcott and then Later Arshavin.
But this season we havent really had a striker.
Then there is that small part about how we refuse to take our chances.
Gambon
The point i was making was Ronaldo bulked up…and in part i agree with you…if he did…he did it on his own with the help of the trainers…but he most have wanted to get stronger on his own.
Rooney still looks the same…I mean a caveman is still a caveman.
gamdon when playing against teams like chelsea it helps i saw the likes vela nasri aa could not do a thing they needed some players rvp bretna players with some hieght and stregth
Keyser, Freddie said he’d been in the gym once during his Arsenal tenure.
I think they only pump iron if they’re asked to…
Right… I’m off to sleep!
Have a good one ya’ll!
Our Carling Cup games…and much recently our FA cup games as well have nothing to do with injuries…or the Strain on our older or experienced players.
Rooney was always big and strong. When he first started out it was mostly fat…all he did was tone it instead of bulking up…fat bastard!
Stu – If you look at it, if we’d had Djourou, Diaby and Bendtner available, they’d have played and you wouldn’t say their small.
All teams are different, Vieira, Henry and the others were big, but I wouldn’t say they were bought for their size, what stood out was how much ground they covered, and what they could do with the ball, Vieira was everywhere for someone soo big.
It’s like Fellaini, he’s good for Everton because of the way they play, but he still tires late on quite often, looks lazy and gets subbed, I doubt he’d be able to use his size effectively playing for us.
I even think it helped Everton beat United, they had terriers in midfield rather than St Bernards.
David – Van Persie wanted to play in the Carling Cup, we just haven’t had the choice either way, where we can sit a few of the odler heads on the bench.
Henry was an absolute beast physically, it definately helps. He was also incredibly intelligent & talented.
Oh I miss him, he was unbelieveable.
Ljungberg didn’t really have to though ?!
The same with Vieira, but Diaby’s loping strides growing on me to. these players are just really hard to find.
i know its not all about size but must have hieght and stregth in your team the averege height thi steam is around 5’8 and there not very powerful team either and that just dont work
Sagna at right back with Eboue right wing, he’s more effective than Walcott, Bendtner and Nasri. And has better balance. Plus Sagna and Eboues’ combined defensive strength makes that side of the field more solid and then its address the problem that Clichy is getting no cover from Arshavin. I don’t think Eboue is the best Arsenal player but he always gives 100%. Rest of the team take note
Thats what im sayin Keyser
Wenger choses these teams…like no to play RVP in the Carling Cup or not to play Arshavin in a Semi-Cup final.
I mean Wenger admitted he fielded a youth team to show they could beat utd without Arshavin. Epic Fail.
Also the injuries thing cant keep being unlucky? Surely there is a science behind this misfortune somewhere that the club are being cheap and are not looking for a solution.
The average height of the team is about 5’11″ leon, the only player we have who isn’t taller than 5’8 is Arshavin!
We’re shorter than most, but it’s exaggerated the difference that makes, and the extent of the difference. It’s only really relevant at set pieces. Power and strength is much more significant though
Im not a big fan of blaming things on luck.
Look at last season, we were 18 points off the lead, no amount of bad luck creates an 18 point gap.
Or RVP being out this seasom, that isnt bad luck, its bad planning.
LOL Leon, 5ft8 average height? Surely that cant be right? Arshavin is that height. There arent many smaller than him…
Or is 5ft 8 just a guess?
In fact, by my reckoning the average height of the first team is exactly 6′
That’s going on
Almunia
Sagna Gallas Vermy Clichy
Cesc Song Diaby
Rosicky VP Arshavin
Yeah just under i think A.
Thats assuming the first XI would be constant though A…and also assuming that thats our first choice starting XI too. Maybe Bendtner would start on the right or Theo…either way it would change.
VP being out of the season is bad planning gambon?! How’s that?! That challenge would’ve injured Drogba or Rooney for the season, I don’t see how ANYONE could’ve anticipated it, and certainly don’t think anyone planned on it happening!
Though I don’t think VP’s injury has made much of a difference points wise over the course of the season.
stu arshavin is shorter that that i think
Arshavin is 5 foot 7 and a half apparently, or 5’4 for the sake of singsongs.
He is about 172cm Gooby. Thats 5ft8…. or 5ft7.5 either way its about 5ft8.
Tut tut A, i thought you of all people would be annoyed by his 5’4 chant because of it being incorrect..i know i am.
A
RVP has missed large chunks of all but last season.
Going into a season expecting him to play consistently is extremely naive.
David – Van Persie got injured before the game, people make a big deal of the Arshavin thing, the week before we played Villereal or something and we had like 3 injuries to our defence from one game.
Thast either luck, or that the stress and strain was too much.
gambon – Tell that to the people who’ve been saying we’re lucky other teams are dropping points, never understand that.
It’s not just Van Persie is it though, there’s Eduardo, Diaby, Doctors not diagnosing Rosicky’s injury, Fabregas last year, first serious injury and he’s out for months at a time.
I can understand people saying it’s because we take our fitness to the limits we push them too hard, but I think we’d have looked into that.
I remember Hleb getting injured for us 2 seasons ago and because it’s England no-one gives a shit, but there was no way Carew could have got to the ball, all he wanted to do was stop him and he took him out from behind.
There’s luck and then there’s players like Shawcross going through the back of Adebayor’s achilles after the balls gone out for a throw in.
Luck shouldn’t come into Ebway being ok, rather than being out injured, but when players jump in like that and are allowed to do we get lucky ?!
Bad planning in the sense that we couldve Strengthened but we are tunnel vision dead set on Chamakh.
I hope he is a 40 goal a season striker ffs.
Yeah gambon, but ultimately he played almost all of last season, and his injury didn’t come about because of ‘injury proneness’
Young players often have muscle injuries early on in their careers, Gerrard did hugely, but then they can get over them, VP seemed to have gotten over those problems, grown out of them, but was just unlucky this year to get that challenge on him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h1oRP7FfBw
I still don’t believe we’d be much, if at all better off with VP.
Our problems are defensive, and no single player will solve them, unless a keeper could come in and give everyone confidence defensively, though I’m not even sure confidence is the problem.
I think Manure will drop points tuesday..
I watched MUTV last night and Evra was interviewed after the match and he said all the players were complaining of being tired before the Everton game….
Obviously they will prepare mentally but I feel West Ham with renewed vigour and confidence can cause a “tired Manure problems….remember they will also have the Carling Cup final in the back of their minds as well….so there will not be much rest for the first choice players….
Hopefully this triggers a collapse for them..
I hope West Ham hold them to a draw…thats good enough for us…
We had Gallas out at Villareal…we had JD out the next game in the EPL.
We were forced to play Silvestre…and Almunia if we were honest was decent but not having the greatest season…Gibbs was just way over his head having to deal with Ronaldo…
It is shocking that we didnt give the boy a little bit of covering…was Eboue injured?
Ofcoarse not.
Its not like he hasnt played Sagna on the right and Eboue on the left before.
Our problems are defensive in part..and error prone in part
Ramsey giving the ball away for K.Jones 1-1 with Almunia…looked ghostly similar to Denilson giving the ball away and Steven Penis Goal against Almunia.
If we had a target man…i think the free flowin would be alot free-er and we wouldnt have to force the side to side passing.
People under pressure like Denilson would have an outlet to lash to ball to in times of crises.
its so much the hieght its lack stregth in the team thoe vela nasri risicky etc now take bretna daiby and song out of that were stregth power in the team that real point here
A – I think we would’ve been, organistaion and discipline come down to stability quite often, play players long enough together and they’ll work out the quirks.
It’s why United have remained in the hunt, because while they’ve been poor at the back, they’ve kept stability up front.
If you know what Van Persie’s going to do and what he gives you, you can predict how things are going to pan out during games.
If we are forced to swap and interchange players rather then through choice we’re always going to get problems.
JA
I like the way you think there…but to be fair…Utd are not the problem.
Its Chelsea.
I disagree totally David, for me it’s the other way round, we’ve already scored shitloads of goals this season, but if we were stronger defensively then we’d score many more, because we often mess up the final ball or finish and alot of that is down to our often being a goal down which puts the attackers under more pressure.
If we were stronger defensively the attackers would be more relaxed in front of goal, both with the final balls, and finishes.
A proper target man as such would totally cripple our system, and we wouldn’t have scored anywhere near as many overall.
If there was a target man, the free flowing football couldn’t be free, because it would mean the central forward staying central, being easy to mark, and massively reducing the space for all the other players centrally.
Well as for Chelsea …they have tough away games with Liverpool and Manure…also some other tough away games as well….plus hosting Man City….
They have the toughest fixtures of the 3 title chasers….so lets see how they fair…
I just hope we push them to the last day…if we come second hopefully this will inspire Wenger/the squad to push us over the line next year with a couple signings and renewed commitment..
I don’t Keyser, not points wise, just from analysing us before and after VP. Our problems are defensive in the big games, and in other games when we struggle to score we had similar games with VP, you can’t score EVERY game.
I agree though that VP would’ve made a difference to the patterns of play, we may have scored more goals and clicked more when we were really flowing, but points wise I really don’t think there would’ve been much of a difference.
Was looking at all the fixtures earlier and posted that –
“With VP
easy games
Everton (a) 6-1 (they imploded because of internal problems, lescott etc, good team but very easy game)
Pompey (h) 4-1
Wigan (h) 4-0
Olympiakos (h) 2-0
Blackburn (h) 6-2
Brum (h) 3-1
AZ (h) 4-1
Wolves (a) 4-1
tough games
Utd (a) 1-2
City (a) 2-4
Fulham (a) 1-0
AZ (a) 1-1
West Ham (a) 2-2
Spuds (h) 3-0
since VP
easy games
Liege (h) 2-0
Stoke (h) 2-0
Hull (h) 3-0
Pompey (a) 4-1
Bolton (a) 2-0
Bolton (h) 4-2
Sunderland (h) 2-0
tough games
Sunderland (a) 0-1
Chelsea (h) 0-3
Liverpool (a) 2-1
Burnley (a) 1-1
Villa (h) 3-0
Everton (h) 2-2
Villa (a) 0-0
Utd (h) 1-3
Chelsea (a) 0-2
Liverpool (h) 1-0
Porto (a) 1-2
Things really havnโt changed that much between pre VP injury, and post VP injury, we struggled in the big games before, and won the easy games by at least 2 goals, and weโve done the same since.
You can even compare specific games pre and post injury
2-2 away at West Ham and home to Everton
Utd 1-2 and 1-3
won one big games easily pre and post injury, Spuds 3-0, Villa 3-0
away in Europe AZ 1-1, Porto 1-2″
ray davies’s interview 2009
How would you spend your ideal day off in London?
Ray: I’d wake up really early, go for a walk on Hampstead Heath and then have a nice lunch somewhere, get a little bit drunk, stroll home and switch on the TV or go to the match and watch Arsenal win. Then I’d celebrate afterwards by having a nap and then writing a song about it. Writing is still an integral part of my day, especially on a Saturday.
Certainly though, with VP we would’ve played nicer football, some of the 2-0s may have been more, there could even have been Burnley changed to a 2-1, or Sunderland a 1-1, but I really don’t think the results in the big games would’ve changed, or it’s certainly not possible to guarantee it, as people seem to have just taken as granted.
A – I don’t think you can look at it like that, when you think about it, it’s a short space of time, but the team was definetly a lot more confident and despite the losses you could still see us progressing together.
Look at the games individually and we played United without Fabregas, Citeh without Arshavin, I can’t remember the last time we’ve had several key players fit and playing at the same time.
We build up momentum and it’s cut short and we start again, when you play the top teams you need to have that momentum with you, and it tells if you don’t.
Arshavin had good oppurtunities against both United and Chelsea, if not to score, but to at least open up the game, I think Van Persie would’ve played a significant part in that to.
Cant disagree more A,
We went on a long unbeaten run last season and had problems scoring…with only 1 part of the back 5 that we have out now.
Also we’ve never really been a clinical team. At least these players havent.
Eduardo has been shocking.
We’ve had problems scoring in big games…and in tight games…i seem to recall the Fulham game where we resorted to long ball tactics…
A strong defense doesnt help an attack anymore than a Strong attack helping a weak defense…
Also agree that RVP wouldnt have had much of an effect on the season thus far…but for different reasons…
We prob wouldve beat Burnley instead of drawing. We prob wouldve beat Villa but unlikely we’d have drawn with Sunderland imo…
We need a plan B in these games…we are not Barcelona because we dont have the spine of Barca..and bar Arshavin..we really didnt have much creativity going for us when Cesc has a poor game.
it must be said not have rvp is has been problem but also there huge mistakes made defensively and quite a few times and thats when song isand they have playing as well and they have learned the still leav them selves wide open i saw that against porto the mentality has always been out score the opistion and you have 3 top strikers you can get away with that but this has not evon come close to that,now this team has defensive for long long while in my view and only when he come up against teams like chelsea man city manu we were exposed because they better strikers and and the likes of manu and chelsea defend well we failed to break them down,lets face it every time this team has come up against the better team they had problems breaking them dwon and they make them pay
Yeah true Keyser, obviously it isn’t as simple as that, but people making out that things have been totally different without VP compared to when he was fit are exaggerating massively imo, and you just have to look at the fixtures to see that. This Arsenal strikerless talk is a massive myth imo that’s somehow become accepted as fact!
VP is obviously a quality player, and would’ve made a difference to the patterns of play, and potential for goals coming out of nowhere etc, but results wise we’ve not suffered anywhere near as much as some make out.
Both help each other David.
We get on top of teams, and if there was a strong defence there then the pressure would build and build and build, and the opposition would be much more likely to succumb to it. As it is we start to build pressure, have and miss a chance or two but then it gets totally relieved by letting in a silly goal. If those silly goals didn’t happen the pressure would build and build and we’d be more likely to break through
Likewise ball retention helps to protect the defence, but our ball retention is very good.
You cant underestimate the importance of having a class striker or someone who scores a goal out of nothing.
The pressure to score would be off us if we’ve got a goal early and we would be more relaxed to play our own game.
I think Wenger has alluded to this before…but we dont take that much time to break down defenses rather we dont have the quality up front to finish these chances those frustrating the players.
It all sounds academic…but the overcomitment in attack and our CB playing like CF is down to the missing piece of the puzzle.
Scoring is on everyone’s mind…not defending.
Thats down to a couple of things…coaching could be one…and lack of personnel another.
Liverpool are great defending and they play one-touch football like we do…but they lack the personnel in attack.
A – It’s becoming an obsession, but we’ve played an unchanged side once in a 101 games, I think thats been a massive problem.
When you’ve got young, inexperienced albeit talented kids you need as much consistentcy around them as you can find.
Ramsey played well against Sunderland, but he could have made as costly a mistake as you’ll find anywhere, I don’t think if we’d had Gallas back there and Vermaelen in his preferred position, Jones would’ve had as good a chance as he did.
It’s things like that, that have cost us, all players will make mistakes, I feel if we’d been able to field a consistent side that we could make changes to through choice, we’d have been far better off.
The same if we’d had Van Persie, or any of the other injured players, we aren’t even close to seeing how good this side could be.
A player like Torres makes all the difference.
a i cant see this team having chance of winning the chapions legue simple because the miskes they defensive you might get away against the likes stoke everton villa etc but against team like manu chelsea barc madrid etc they will back you pay to many to top players are in those teams and they will make you pay
Yeah true Keyser, obviously it isnโt as simple as that, but people making out that things have been totally different without VP compared to when he was fit are exaggerating massively imo
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yes and thank god it is just YOUR OPINION a, the reality is he was our TOP scorer even in front of cesc in the tally count when he was struck down , so to say he wouldn’t have influenced ANY of the past 10 games or so is just silly talk ..
he was good for us losing at least 6 points ..
IMO .. possibly more if you include cups we have been knocked out of .
he is far from our savior i do agree , but he is the best on the tools we have in front of goal .always has been since TH14 left ..
not only is his goals scoring missed , his assists are also missed ..
so in short Of course not having your MAIN attacking threat available will change the course of your future ..
But wenger could have rectified that in the transfer window , but would rather wait until chamakh is on a free and ruin our season in the process …
thats the reality A !
i think RVP is a watered down DB10 , great support striker , can get lose in the box and has the smarts to play 1 or 2 touch football in the box , he is sorely missed . and NEVER afraid to shoot !!!!..
same can be said for theo being long term injured or nasri ..
in both cases theo’s and nasri’s advancement this season was hampered by injury , so in effect we are in a similar position to last season minus ade … toure / TV is more than an ok replacement …
nik b as ive already stated isnt ready ..
and probably needs a full season on loan at a club who will play him every week religiously ..
but i dont think Arsenal FC can afford anymore down time on manufacturing players ..
we need results …. YESTERDAY !
Yeah true Keyser, obviously the more players we’ve had fit for a greater period of time would make a big difference, but regardless of that the individual mistakes that we’ve made in big games still shouldn’t be happening, certainly not on such a regular basis.
Yeah neither can I leon. Obviously every one off game you’ve got a chance in, and we could get a lucky draw etc, but I’ve not had much confidence in this side since day 1 in terms of the champions league, because we could implode and be thrashed in any game against anyone half decent.
The league was always where I was much more hopeful, because it was always the case that we could lose the majority of the big games, and smash all the smaller teams, and still come out on top. If we can just keep playing as we have been and get the same sorts of results we have all season we should certainly be in there with a shout come the end of the season.
we need all killa’s , no filla’s
in next years team , when looking back on it
song – denilson and diaby benefited largely from injuries to rosick – nasri – theo -dudu – rvp etc ..
or our worst players have become average , and our top players have remained static thru injury ..
unless wenger has a major reshuffle next season
and has a clean out , we wont win next term either …
a i know wenger wants blood young players nothing wroung with that fergi does itbut can you realy see a players like almunia or delinson or bretna getting into barc or madrid team wenger needs to get real
most horror mistakes A where made in defense or goal keeping .. or our inability to score clinically due to NO STRIKERS (which i told you pre season !) and you laughed
those could also have been rectified in july 09..
management is directly to blame for poor team selections and lack of transfer activity when it so GLARINGLY NEEDED IT !
this neglect continues to leave us in limbo ..
but ask yourself this ?! would you want to pay the top price in the UK for a ticket to an average team ?
soon that will be the factor in all this going tits up if this continues any longer ..
not everyone has patients like you A !
some of us are 120 years old and wont see another season
ethan this may come below manu or chelsea but they far better than average but to win prem you need to better that good you to be exceptional
average by C.L standards leon .. we are not much better than porto … not glaringly better …
in fact we lost to them so , you pretty much know it as fact .. we are NOT in the 5 or even 10 top teams in the world ..
and we used to be ..
if the past 10 – 15 years were a history gauge we would be in the dark ages .. currently , this is the worst silverware drought from some time ..
ethan your quite right there real mardrid bard ac milan interevon with when all great players we still not win cl
when you look at our fixture list and then look at Chelsea and Manu’s you have to admit that we are in with a very good chance of winning the league.
ha ha.
as if.
I translated one of Leons posts and formatted it correctly because I think he makes some excellent points.
“I feel the time that we gained prem will depend on the east time equipment has learned of its errors.
he very wrrying that the errors against manu and the chelsea is still reaccuring abiertos they wide now continued being, yes has accessory easier but these equipment is still quite good for doing the payment to them for mistakes incur.
legth of the deficiency in the preoccupations of the squad much without the song or diaby tyrannizes easily to this equipment.
Also with aa and edwardo towards outside other 2 weeks I do not do really that much confedence in the account of bretna or thoe that much, I feels that there is hardly to many problems in this equipment to gain prem.
It does not secure wroung this good equipment but great equipment to me”
It’s hard to argue with that.
I did the same for ethans 1 post that he repeats endlessly
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you have to agree that it makes even less sense in Thai than it does in English…
*เนเธเธตเธขเธ เนเธเน เธเธฒเธฃ เธซเธฅเธญเธ Ethan!
*just kidding Ethan!
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*you make a lot of good points even though i dont always agree.
A, on RVP. Ive reconsidered. I dont think anyone can know if RVP would have made a difference, if he hadnt been injured. I remember thinking after cooling off from our consecutive manchester losses that the team would learn from the mistakes, the attack would develop, same with the defense. If RVP had been fit, maybe he would have further developed understandings with other forwards. Who Knows? Maybe we wouldnt give the ball away as much on attack? No one can know for sure. But I truly think we could have beaten Utd and chelsea with him. Why? 1. We lost to Utd at Old Trafford with him, and we should have won. Back in September, you would figure with a rematch at the emirates (with RVP), we could win. 2. He won at stamford bridge last year with his 2 goals in 5 minutes. BUT, you really cant say can you? Damn Shame RVP. Get better.
GOOBY! Whered you find that Ray Davies interview? I had no idea the kink was a gooner!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3pP7xaOg5s
bad song warning
Song has much more defensive discipline than Fellaini. Fellaini is much more feisty, but in our 4-3-3 Song suits us more than Fellaini ever would. If anything, Fellaini would compete with Diaby for that 3rd midfield spot.
Cesc-Song-Diaby
or
Cesc-Song Fellaini
Personally, I’d choose Diaby.
come on, no one on pacific time here?
Agreed Pat, but Fellaini would be nice to have on the bench over ole denilson
Ive got a good friend who knows Ray Davies throiugh his businesses and has had lots of dealings with him over many years.
Unfortunatley he says he’s one of the biggest pricks he’s ever met. One of the most arrogant and needlessly rude people ever.
Always put me off him because my friend is one of the straightest, funniest and most down to earth people I’ve ever met and I’ve never heard him say a bad word about anyone. Except for Ray Davies.
Thinking about it he also said Danny Minogue is a proper cunt.
He also tells a blinding story about Brian May out of Queen but it takes too long to type.
But Brian Comes out of it really well.
would never figure a kink to be that way.
it makes less sense because ,
in thai it makes no sense at all !
where did you get the translation from ? your 60 year old ladyboy boy girl friend ?
or did you use one of your Canadian websites ?
oh and by the way …
.. my banana isnt happy to see you !
but thanks for asking AA23
its clearly a kink in his armour
ethan
I got the translation off of Ray Davies
so yes
G’Day all
Its time to give Stoke a lesson. And in doing so, it will help the cause with 3 points.
AA23 do you have a crotch sniffing dog by chance
?
Ethan
how dare you talk about my ladyboy wife like that.
I thought we were mates.
we really cant lose another game…in all seriousness.
ting tong ramma damma ding dong ?
?
is he still your wife
Ethan
I thought the translation made no sense?
seems like you have a 60 year ladyboy boy girlfriend translator of your own.
you sly old dog…
…eater
I cant do that acid house smiling face you do or i’d do it now.
luke if we got several key players back from injury / form …
AA23 – RVP – JD – GIBBS etc .. things could hypothetically be possible ..
but next season wenger would need to add , because if by some fucking miracle we did win the league it wouldn’t be thru beating the best ..
Agreed Ethan. Gibbs wont be back, and Ive heard Djourou is doubtful. To be honest at this point, and I hate myself for saying this but, for RVP, I think he shouldnt even try to come back unless we are close to winning. Why? He is going to the worldcup and I dont want him to be fatigued/injured for next year. I cant handle another RVP injury. And on adding to the Squads…YES!
1. Hugo Lloris/Akinfeev
2. Chamakh
3. Subotic
4. Denilson for Matuidi
Ethan
I got rid of him and married her uncle ying tong iddle i po
she’s a forceful yet sensitive lover
I cant do that acid house smiling face you do or iโd do it now.
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i know keyboards in Canada still are only in 9 pin form
not sure they even had a numerical key pads out that way yet ….
anyway for you mice on an elastic band is still the cheapest form of 12V power out that way still .. must cost a fortune in cheese thou
thank god you live in a Hamish community
Yeah he,s terrific that,s why we bought Sagna because Eboue is great what a joke Eboue is a back up right back at Arsenal levelat best horrible every where else would never get a game in any other position if it wasn,t 4 financial constraints holds on to long crosses badly wastes chances even the goal he ran into a dead end crossed it in blind hope & it rebounded back to him & he WE got lucky at the 2nd try
He would never get a game at any other position so he is bad Damian? Yeah Gallas would never get a game as CF so HE FUCKING SUCKS. Great logic guy… Eboue is a great player. In form he is better then sagna any day IMO
Oh yeah, and its Wenger who plays him at other positions. Dont blame eboue for not being a great RW, that isnt his position.
Ethan
I live in an Amish community
I left the “Hamish” community when I got deported from Scotland for eating Terriers.
We do use mice as a form of electricity here in Canadia but only when we arent shoving them up our arses for “warmth”
Akinfeev , yes id like igor to join !
top shout that , he looks on track for being one of the keeping greats..
thats the sort of pick wenger should have made 2 years ago ..
there are plenty to pick from in the EPL teams anyhoo .
id probably prefer any of the 3 1st choice goal keepers who get relegated this season over Big AL
hey just as well wenger only adds players if they are better than what we currently own !
gee must of been hard to find better than big al
where was he looking ?
welling under 8′s ??
david james has 15 years left in him,
maybe wenger will pounce on pompey
David James Has a retarded brother that rides a tricycle around Welwyn garden city.
I’d sign him over David
Harsh AA23. Fact is, there are better keepers out there than almunia, so get the feck on it wenger.
What’s harsh Luke?
Hes not THAT bad
We should just start putting Schezney into games at this point. Hes probably better than fabianski.
Akinfeev
Sagna-Subotic-Verm-Clichy
———-Song————–
——Cesc—–Diaby
Rosicky————–Arsh
———–Rvp————
Subs: Almunia, Eboue, Gallas, Ramsey, Denilson, Chamakh, Nasri
I’d still sign the brother. He’s fitter because of the bike riding, he’s younger and he doesnt smoke.
He’s slightly mentally challenged but that doesn’t mean that he wouldnt make a decent keeper.
He’d be a lot better than any of the idiots we have now.
Surprised at your Prejudice frankly Luke. You seem like a pretty level headed poster usually.
you are coming across like Glen Hoddle in the way you have a pop at those less fortunate than you.
Gallas would probably start…
Oh AA23. Boredom on le grove
Luke
Have you been seeing Eileen Drewery?
your sickening comments about the disabled have really made me feel bilious.
Is diamond lights playing in the background as you spout this prejudiced filth?
I hope Kevin Keegan replaces you on Le Grove.
I didnt make any comments about the disabled. I know youre kidding, and you know what AA23, the fact that you would turn such a sensitive subject such as mental disability into a joke is a disgrace.
This is dumb…were talking about mental illness when we should be discussing arsenal fc
Luke
my sister is mentally disabled
well she’s pretty thick
haha
Luke
you are right mate we should be talking about Football and not mental disability.
Not much on the grover front…Cant wait till stoke though!
I almost said we had a chance of winning the league but we just agreed not to have anymore mental disability based talk on here.
Luke
are you taking the fucking piss?
I think we can win the league if we win every game. I think it is in our hands but do I think we will win every game…that is another story.
you tell me off for being out of order to retards and then bring up Stoke!
you are an evil man
hahaha…we will win.
Luke
In all seriousness we have a fantastic chance if we win every game.
In fact if we win every remaining game we will definitely win the league. I’m positive of that.
But can you really see us winning every single game from now on?
you think we will win the league? Champions league? (I cant believe Im asking the ladder)
Not at all AA23. Not without RVP. Think we will lose 1 draw 2 maybe.
But I believe we can
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQmO3S2eLPE
Take care AA23 and believe babY! Were still in it! Fuck logic
Our full strength first XI could win the CL.
But it would need everyone fit and we havent had that for more than 2 games in a row this whole season, and it would need a belief and fight that i havent seen yet.
If we could have kept our early season XI fit and playing week in week out we would have won the league already.
We would have been at least 12 points clear right now and with our run in, guaranteed champions.
Our remaining opponents would be dreading 5 nil hidings and just trying to keep scorelines respectable.
Once again we cant keep the same fucking side on the pitch for more than 3 games in a row…
and yet we are still in both comps…
We will definitely beat Stoke though.
Put money on that.
the united chav match will be interesting as hell if we havent lost any match till then.
Morning All,
Hoping for a more points being dropped by Manure tonight,
we can watch un-official arsenal signing chamakh tonight,too..lets see how he does…maybe will score another header…
Yup hope Zola can rally his troops.
I’d take a 2-2…Shrek on the double…he’s my capt
Looks like every1s really drunk.
ethangunner Says:
February 23, 2010 at 06:29
david james has 15 years left in him,
maybe wenger will pounce on pompey
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chill out AA …
i was only being sarcastic …
david james is way too high profile for wenger too choose !
iceman
i dare say,manu lose,and we go second on saturday,
Title here we come. Plus titties
C’mon you Irons!
ManU are playing the CC final this weekend, if we win, we go second, morning all!
Lose at theirs?
Against West Ham?
Wishful thinking but I’m all for it.
Ok fine…2-3…Shrek still on the double
Morning,
Geoff, not if they beat West Ham today.
Morning geoff
we go second provided if manu lose i feel,as there goal difference is 6 goals better than us
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