So after failing to secure the right signings in 2 transfer windows, Arsenal slumped to humiliating defeat at home to Manchester United. Are we out of the title race? No. Are we likely to catch Chelsea and our Manchester foes? Very, very doubtful.
It’s de ja vu. The last three seasons have been exactly the same. We fail to sign players in the summer despite huge sums of money being available to the manager, all the fans can see that we lack the quality to make a sustained challenge, then we fail to deliver.
Arsenal were out fought all over the park yesterday in what was a meek depressing performance. A team as youthful and vibrant as ours should not be struggling against an aging Paul Scholes, an average Fletcher and a slightly better than mediocre Michael Carrick.
Wayne Rooney and Nani destroyed our backline time and time again and we had no answers.
The first goal saw Nani rinse Clichy on the left, hit the by line, chip a cross to the back stick where Almunia was on hand to push it into his own net. Surprised? I wasn’t. Almunia has been nothing short of incompetent all season. It is clear to all that watch his defence, that he is not trusted. He flaps at crosses, is erratic with high balls into the box and looks like a man on the edge. We can all see it, why can’t Wenger? Once again, persisting with an underperforming player has cost us an important goal. In football, sentiment is an aged value. Wenger seems to have it in abundance for his favourites.
Arsenal were attacking in spits and spats. Arshavin seemingly the only one with glory on his mind, selfishly at times tried to do it all by himself. He had a few glorious chances that he spurned and he also missed a few opportunities to play a team mate in… preferring to shoot.
The second goal came from an Arsenal corner, United broke, Rooney powered the whole way up the pitch and finished an easy chance. Where was Denilson? What was he doing? How can we have a player in the middle of the park with such weak physical attributes? Pathetic.
The second half opened and Wenger refused to make any changes. Instead, believing our team of one dimensional tiny people could spark some resistance. Well, it didn’t take long for United to put the final nail in the coffin. Denilson lost the ball, Clichy inexplicably failed to close down park which allowed him all the time in the world to slot home. Comical defending once again.
Wenger decided that at 3-0, it was time to ring in the changes. He brought Bendtner and Walcott on and although they weren’t amazing, we did create a few opportunities because our attack had a few additional options. Theo’s pace however unharnessed always causes problems and Nik Bendtners height gave us the long ball option. Vermaelen managed to knock in a consolation goal late on, but sadly, it wasn’t enough. Our season was looking like it had hit the skids once again and the team went off to jeers and whistles.
Your modern day football club can’t be built on nearly players. You need experience, you need quality and you need fighters. Arsenal seem to lacking those vital ingredients in certain areas of the team and until they are addressed, you fear we’ll never move up to the next level.
So far this season, we’ve failed to win our important games. We’ve been hammered by Manchester City, Chelsea and United twice. Your record against the big clubs isn’t all important, but it goes a long way to telling you the type of quality you have and it gives a good indicator of where you’ll be at the end of the season. Chelsea and Man U have stuttered this year, but I have my doubts as to whether we can recover from today and mount a serious challenge for the rest of the year. We might beat Chelsea, but do we have a solid enough base to win ten games on the trot? Not for me.
Arsene Wenger said the other day that you need a strong Man United and that as a club, our aim shouldn’t be to triumph due to mediocrity of competition. Well, from where I’m standing, that’s exactly what we’ve tried to do this season. We’ve watched the Mancs sell two of their prized assets, we’ve watched Chelsea grow another season older and instead of capitalising on their problems, we’ve stood still in the hope that would be enough to see us through. Well, surprise, surprise, it hasn’t worked again. The quality of players like Denilson is still lost on the fans and the Premiership. Our depth of under prepared kids still lacks enough experience to pull us through an injury crisis and our first team doesn’t cut it because bar Van Persie, we were at full strength and still a long way off a Man United team you could hardly call the best.
Some serious question now have to be asked at board level. Players only have short careers and past the money, the only thing they have to show for their 15 years at the top is medals. We’re not giving our great players a platform to win trophies. Cesc, Arshavin and Robin have all at some point said we need players, it would be foolish to think they don’t know our limitations. Wenger hasn’t delivered them once again, and we now head into our 6th year without a Premiership and our 5th without a trophy.
Players stop remembering the good old days and the club loses a bit of it’s glamour. Why didn’t Chris Smalling sign for us? Is it because he knows United will always compete? I don’t know… I do know that Wenger’s stubborn policy is damaging the club. New fans are picking up shirts that aren’t the red and white of Arsenal, seats are going empty, players are snubbing us and the vultures are circling our best assets.
I trusted Wenger to know more than the pundits, journalists and ex-players. It seems that trust was misguided..
Something at the club has got to give because Wenger is not bigger than Arsenal and he seems to be treating the club that way.
The window has closed, our frailties are out in the open.
Same old, same old…
Le Grove is now smart phone compatible!
Pedro
Geoff
The usual fucking suspects!!
Paaooooow…Wenger should resign….if you ask me…!!
YA
Where to start Well at least im not as depressed as after the Villa game. As those that saw my rant the morning after that one will know I said the same old faults that have existed for seasons still remained and that this Team and Squad would not challenge for the title this season or any season as long as average is acceptable at Arsenal, And im sorry Almunia,Denilson, are even below average they are a complete joke, Ive never in my life seen such an identikit side in my 30 odd years of watching football, we have from the defence out a team of fucking midgets that play pretty football but don’t have an ounce of fight or grit in them ( Bar Fabregas) We also have no pace or width probably due to the fact we have no wingers or the problem of having no one over 5ft to get on the end of a cross,
But above all im fuming that the worse side United have sent to us in 10-15 years absolutely tore us to shreds it was fucking unforgivable the way certain players hid we were playing with about 6 men for much of the match Ex players and god rest his soul Rocky must have been turning in his grave to see that poor pathetic excuse for an Arsenal Team giving in and not showing an ounce of pride or fight in Our shirt, I don’t mind getting beat but the abject way in which we have surrendered in our last few encounters with both Chelsea and United shows a rapid overhaul of the clubs policies and playing staff must be addressed in the summer otherwise Wenger can do one as far as im concerened cause that was Bollocks.
Oh and before the likes of A etc come on and tell me after re watching the game we made as many chances as united ill ask you one question Why the fuck were they not put away then Oh yes because our transfer policy is a shambles and we haven’t had a truly fit forward since Vp got injured complete and utter wank.
choke choke choke…
Morning all,
I feel let down by half the team and especially by the manager. Because of Wenger’s negligence in not maintaining the quality of the squad we find ourselves trounced on our home turf yet again by the top 2.
Denilson/Almunia and Clichy had games they’d want to forget and the first 2 should be shipped out/dropped to the bench at the very least and Walcott was as ineffective as we expected him to be.
Thanks to Wenger’s stubbornness my 10 year old has to go to school and take all the merciless gloating of the glory hunting manks at his school and it’s made me feel like crap today and ruined my week.
Thanks a bunch Wenger, thanks a bunch you bunch “of overpaid poncies.”
Pedro – Vermaelen scored a deflected volley, not a header you numpty! other than that you hit the nail on the very saddening and dis-heartened head!!
Its time to get militant. If enough fans show their disgust the club will have to change things, whether that means putting pressure on Wenger or just throwing him out I dont care.
Wengers policies are getting us nowhere.
that sucked yesterday
STRONG MAN UNTD?
My foot, we need a STRONG Arsenal.
The shame and humiliation…..
We are so far off the pace its not even funny
Absolutely heart broken this morning.
Good post Pedro!! I have just about had enough with wenger!!
He says he has money but refuses to spend so surely he has to go now!!
We Must win at chavs now…
If Arshavin knew where the goal was, what gets me is wenger coming out the day before and saying we could buy David Villa, but hes happy with what we got No strikers ?
taig
Pedro – Vermaelen scored a deflected volley, not a header you numpty! other than that you hit the nail on the very saddening and dis-heartened head!!
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If Rooney had scored that acrobatic volly, every one of the newspaper would be hailing him to be the best in the league.
Oh, are they already doing that?
quality post. you summed it all up very well.
I know we had players missing but united missed Vidic and Ferdinand!!
Arsenal 1-3 Man Ure
Any other top 4 teams board would think this is not acceptable…
Except ours of course….
We were bloody at home FFS…
And they had their shit team out!!!
Either the board fuck off or the coaches… (Or Wenger)
yeah right.. I think we’re going to get raped… again!
Sabeel,
We Must win at chavs now…
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We wont, I am feeling numb.
Good write up. Absolutely gutted.
no chance on yesterdays evidence sabeel
I forgot to add yesterdays spineless pathetic performance can be summed up by Eboue when he came on Ronney collects the ball 40 yards out and without having to do anything bar run in a straight line forwards he still managed to put Eboue on his arse and go clean through.
To be fair, 3rd with those players is actually a massive achievment. No team will win a title with Almunia, Clichy, Denilson, Rosicky in the team. Rosicky is too lighweight.
3rd is good.
Wenger should then leave at the end of the season, it’s his job to address getting us from 3rd to 1st and he hasn’t bothered to do it for 5 years.
I know you wouldn’t want the players, but Spurs have signed another 3 players this window and man city look like they will do a last minute deal as well.
So teams below us are getting stronger and we are getting weaker.
I am starting to lose interest in this team…that should never happen.
WENGER IS RUINING ARSENAL FOOTBALL CLUB!!
Spot on Pedro, great post, if only the board read it.
You’re spot on, Pedro. The game was so painful to watch. I feel so bad. It was so humilating. Coco the clown, Denilson should be sold now.
Oh and I forgot, Arsene should just fuck off to France where he is loved by everyone. The french twat ruined my weekend.
Wenger has defended Arshavin’s poor performances recently saying Arshavin has been playing injured for the last 2 months, and saying “it hurts whenever he kicks a ball”
And yet he sits there with £30m in the kitty and no other fit striker for the whole of January and does bugger all.
Why not sign another player so we can get AA back fit again rather than always making these fecking excuses?! I’m sick of it.
We need a good old clean out…
Either Wenger does a fucking re-build this Summer or he can Fuck Off!
At least 7-10 SHIT players should be off…
5 World class ones coming in…
The funny thing is i can see the second and third goals happening.
Arsenal are a predicatable team, teams know how to play against us. United used tactics like the small teams do, just defend well and hit on the break but they have class players to exploit this
we just like the possession game and play through teams thats all
p.s. Does the Le Grove charity donate directly to Chris Foy?
Oh and David Villa? haha, Wenger the day before in the paper said that managers like to spin the media at conferences……
Cesc will leave, why would he want to stay and play with these players?
I would be gone in a heartbeat.
Save Our Club.
And anyone that beleives we were in For D.Villa needs there fucking head examined not in a million years would Arsenal spend that sort of money more lying bullshit from the Club,
so inevitable that i’m actually not that depressed. the only thing to look forward to next sunday… some john terry songs.
“We might beat Chelsea, but do we have a solid enough base to win ten games on the trot? Not for me”…….
Te-he-he-he!! do you really think we could? on their own patch? that is wishful thinking from where I am standing. If we beat Chelsea…I will run naked from london Bridge to Westminister.
Yet another humiliation from one of our hated rivals on our own patch……what a shame.
The only positive thing is we got a good run in but we need chelsea and united losing points
And as for Mental Strengh no wonder Wengers comes out with that bullshit in every interview cos bar 2-3 players there is a distinct lack of any in the others,
boy did we miss RVP yesterday !!
I think the thing that actually baffles me the most is that we think we can go the entire season without a proper striker????
What top level manager in there right mind would actually think they can do this????
It’s frightening.
He is talking about goals scored, yeah we have scored lot’s but Cesc has scored what 14 goals?
We would need him to double that!!!! He will get maybe another 6 – 8 – he’s a central midfielder.
joe cole will rape clichy.
drogba will hammer our centrebacks!
Ademywhore, Bnsb
on yesterdays performance we cannot,
we lost to mancity last year,and beat chavs next weekend
Can there be a repeat? atleast for fans sake..
Players,Wenger Owe Arsenal and there fans everything, we pay them..
Any injured players we could get back by 5pm, they might be like a new signing.
3rd is good.
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For argument sake its good, may be.
But honestly how many of you have the confidence today to say that we will MAINTAIN third.
Tough task, you need a run of games in the second half of league. Chelsea, Mancs already have that, Pool, Villa city, even spurs -umm are not going to roll over..
What the fuck is up with Clichy by the way??
He has totally lost it – i don’t mean lack of form – i mean he looks shite….like league 1 standard.
He made Nani look like Ronaldo!!
I watched the game at my dads place and he is a manc fan,i had to put up with his irritating comments the whole game.my sms inbox is full of humiliating txts from united fans.i feel let down by this club,arsene,denilson,almunia.am tired of losing to this lot.fuuuuuuuuuuck.
Pedro
Good Post,
i only feel that, Wenger thinks that “He OWNS Arsenal” and Wenger has Forgotton that “Fans OWN Arsenal”
and our fans are not stupid to ask for messi…
If i was wenger, i would get on the phone to some agents today. get pat rice to do the training today.
Golkhan Inler is available, i heard napoli want to sign him.
Mancini of Inter milan is available.
am sure we can sign mohammdou diarra and rafael van der vaart.
Edin Dzeko, am sure if we put a bid they cant refuse we can have him.
We’ll get 3rd i think, we should still carry on putting the shit teams to bed….we are just about good enough for that.
Pedro
Good Post,
i only feel that, Wenger thinks that “He OWNS Arsenal” and Wenger has Forgotton that “Fans OWN Arsenal”
and our fans are not stupid to ask for messi
The funny thing is i can see the second and third goals happening
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Do you have a copy of Sabeel’s program?
Choy, you’re right. Drogba will be on fire. Seriously after the way the team played yesterday, I don’t see us winning agains the Chavs.
ed atom, Liverpool did it
It was a joke but as soon as i saw we were playing 4/3/3 against them it seemed we were in trouble.That was playing into fergies hands.The first goal was very fortunate and brilliant by nani but to be hit on the break twice is unforgivable and wengers over offensive formation was to blame.They were counting on it.Fabregas did not look like a captain either.
arsenalised
it is same for all of us arsenal fans,we are in process of getting used to be losers at title competition level ..shit
WENGER & AKNS 0 – ARSENAL MAJORITY 3
Denilson would not play in any team in the top half of the table never mind playing for a team pushing for the title. For the third goal when he lost possession, the ref actually passed him out when they running back. He has to be the slowest Brazilian I’ve ever seen. And its not as if his physique makes up for his sluggishness.
Wenger must realise at this stage that he ain’t going to make it as a top player. But who would he sell him to.
As for Almunia, he was playing for Celta Figo ‘B’ before he came here!! Celta Figo A aren’t even in the top division of Spanish football anymore. He belongs back in B team of some description.
Clichy is a shadow of the man he used to be. Did you see the way he was out-paced by Nani at one stage? He used to be one of the quickest players in the premier league. Maybe he will come good again but there are an awful lot of maybes lingering around at the moment. Maybe Walcott will get his form back.
In one months time there is a high probability that we will have nothing to play for AGAIN and that will be the end of Fabregas, Van P and Arshavin. We still haven’t got 4th place for sure!
These are the areas in which, to me, Wenger is failing massively:
*Giving starting roles to players who continue to under perform. Any player will find it hard to be at the peak of their game if they know they will not be dropped. Almunia, Denilson and Clichy are all prime examples.
*Poor team selection on a regular basis. if most fans could see, prior to kick off, the danger of playing Denilson yesterday then why couldn’t Wenger. Utd’s game plan, as ever, was to get in our faces, shut us down and force our play wherever possible. Denilson is not the clam, level headed player that can deal with such opposition.
*Extremely poor management during games. While other managers are on the touch line instructing, encouraging and directing their players Wenger sits next to PR and doesn’t move until the referee or opposition anger him.
*He is no longer a good tactician (if he ever was). The perfect example of this was last season when we played Utd in the CL. After the first leg loss, Wenger told the press that he thought Adebayor was extremely isolated. So what did he do in the 2nd leg? He deployed exactly the same system with the same personnel and we got thumped again. A year on and he clearly hasn’t learnt his lesson. As much as it pains me to say it, Andy Gray was right yesterday when he said that Fergie made the very intelligent decision to swap Scholes and Fletcher around. from that point forwards they destroyed us.
*Refusing to act in the transfer window is costing us season after season after season. Bendtner was on the bench until the 70th minute yesterday. I take this to mean that Wenger thinks he was only fit enough to play 20 minutes. This means we have zero fit strikers and yet he still somehow believes that we do not need to sign any players. Look at some of the guilt edged chances that we missed yesterday. A decent striker would probably have buried at least 2 of those.
*Over protecting players is another downfall of Wenger’s. I know you have to motivate your players but somewhere along the line you have to say enough is enough. Stop wrapping them up in cotton wool and start delivering them some warnings about the future roles within the club. Socks need to be pulled up!
There is to much bad management on far too many levels for Wenger to be feeling so comfortable within his position. Some of the blame I feel must soon be delivered towards us the fans because at the end of the day we are not asking for anything to change. Until banners are hung or until games that we start with a 2 minute silent protest, everything will remain as it is. The board do not pressure Wenger because we do not pressure the board. All the while those fucking idiots hang ‘Keep The Faith’ banners Wenger will keep the faith with his silly little experiments and it is us who will suffer.
bnsb Says:
February 1, 2010 at 09:20
The funny thing is i can see the second and third goals happening
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Do you have a copy of Sabeel’s program
bnsb
There is No , Only Misunderstanding..forget it now..
Wenger ahs given us the invincibles, took us to the summit of English football and I will thank him fot that.
I dont think we are in the race anymore. If chelsea beat us (And after THAT yesterday, I cant see any other outcome) we will be 8 points in front with a game in hand.
With only 13 games to go.
And just think, a little ambition, some money spent on decent players (NOT AFTER RONALDO OR MESSI, IBRA,) we could have ben in the mix until the end…
EVERY OTHER MANAGER THIS MONTH IS LOOKING AT BRINGING IN PLAYERS.
ALL MY MATES WHO SUPPORT OTHER CLUBS LIKE SPUDS, VILLA, POOL, EVERTON LOOK FORWARD TO TRANSFER WINDOW TIME!!! I HAVENT FOR A LONG TIME!!!
He already said he’s not going to buy anyone.
You are kidding, we don’t stand a chance against the chavs, not a fucking chance, thanks Arsene, we used to fancy ourselves against top teams.
The funny thing is, Denilson will start the next game as well.
MY GOD I LOVE ARSENAL.
Ever since my dad took me to my first game in 1971 and i walked up those stone steps at the back of the North Bank and I first saw that green expanse of a pitch and I fell in love with the club.
Yesterday, however I wished i did’nt. My weekend was in ruins, most of this week wont be much better as I work with Man U fans along with Chelsea ones as well. I may be sick today. I told myself I’m not looking at the news now website for potential signings and post match reviews, but guess what 5 mins later i was looking. How do you stop loving a football club.
The last thing on my mind before I fell asleep was the game, I then dreamt Wenger resigned and Vic Akers took over till the end of the season, this morning i felt really good when i woke, then after about 10 seconds i remembered and my stomach turned over…………………………………………………………………………………………..I wonder how Wenger and the players feel this morning ???
Great post pedro… you summed up what every arsenal fan is thinking and feeling.. probably the best post of LeGrove history.
Duvee, I second what you said about Clichy. Nani is not that good but yesterday you could think he was world-class.
bnsb
There is No *Program , Only Misunderstanding..
forget it now..its not important
Well said Pedro, we were shocking!
Morning all
We have the worlds worst Goalkeeper!!! I liked Denilson but now at the business end of the season my opinion is falling quicker than a ball of lead.
The problem I see is we gonna get hammered by Chelsea and then starting with Pool, we will go on a nice long unbeaten run,and Wenger will coo how stong we are etc etc. And nothing will change. Although I dont believe we need to beat the big teams to win the title, we won most of them last season and finished worse, but we should be stuffing every team, we are the Arsenal.
Only positive was Song who is showing a lot more fight recently and Cesc running every blade of grass trying to make something happen by himself. Denilson hid for most (all) of the game, after Nasri didnt get played in by Arsh in the first half he lost interest. How could we have been so naive against Nani who is crap, the way sky were going on about his piece of skill made me sick!!!
Arsene said after the match that we were poor & that he didn’t want to speak too much about it before they analyze it.
I’ll bet with anyone that come thursday/friday when he does his press conference & interview with arse tv, he says when you look at the man utd game you’ll see there was no difference between the sides & that we were just a bit off with our finishing, but that we created more than them & didn’t deserve to lose.
Even after sacrificing two cups we’re too weak for the league.
Look at the Chavs and the Manc’s … One is still in the FA cup and one’s already at Wembley.
We are so freakin weak.. what is wenger trying to do?
Tony your typo was right, Denilson is a clam.
We will be lucky to finish 4th this year, imagine that? The Manc chavs and the spuds topping us, won’t Ade have fun.
Rookie, careful…
Geoff
the reason i said that we MUST win at chavs because, we will worsen our situation even more than it is now,if we dont think positively
Choy – That was the point I made the other day! Wenger feels he has to sacrifice 2 Cup competitions just to compete in the EPL and CL. Like you say, Utd are already in a final and Chelsea are looking good for the other cup and both are battling to win the league! We cant even do well with our pathetic squad when we concentrate on the league alone!!
morning all, shit result even shitter performance!!
anyone see wenger use villa as a reference as a transfer target…as if we’re stupid enough to believe he even considered going for him.
fucking arsenal
Fuck Me arseblogs totally gone for it today well worth a read
What does wenger care about what we think.. he’s on his own trip.
He will play the same players and expect the same results.
Wenger Must be feeling like a KING,the untouchable..
Geoff – ha ha, yeah I did notice that and wasn’t too bothered about they way it came out!!
Geoff,
The funny thing is, Denilson will start the next game as well.
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Or worse Denilson sores a deflected goal, but we still loose 4-1.
You are bringing me to tears.
Arsene should apologize to the fans. But as we all knowhim , he won’t.
I am speechless I really am!! I am so depressed!! I nearly threw my season ticket in the bin last night!!
i just dont see the point anymore!! wenger wont change he wont buy or see whats wrong!!
choy,
wenger thinks abt arsenal fans in following order
1)at start of transfer window,thats the time he tells that he will buy someone
2) he ditches the arsenal fans,when transfer window closes..
those 2 are the only times,that wenger thinks abt fans..
terrible performance.
awful.
kinda numb, but not surprised. i don’t have the energy and stomach to join in all the bleak slagging off today.
might as well be postive.
maybe from the lowest depths we can find what it takes to beat the chavs. and if we take 6 pts from them and the scousers we’re right back in it.
Zak, Thats half the problem mate most of them players yesterday wont give a Fuck this morning and thats what hurts like hell, Playing for Arsenal Used to mean something now its an easy meal ticket and its killing me seeing it
lols… sorry Geoff did nt mean to offense you buddy.. you ve had some brilliant posts as well and you know i m a fan of your posts… but in the present emotional condition Pedro’s post is more appealing..
10/1 Arsenal sign a player before the window closes. Any taker?
On what grounds does Denilson get picked?
What does he ever do right?
I feel this summer will be one of change.
I’m sure Fab and Arsh will be like f this we’re off to sunny Spain.
Maybe this is how it’s supposed to end.
Wenger needs to re-think. He’s rested on his laurels for way too long!
Sabeel:Here in kenya and east africa generaly you are either arsenal or man united so the rivalry here is intense its bad when we lose to anyone here these manc fans are always on our backs so you can imagine what happened yesterday.hell an arsenal fan here hanged himself last yr after we lost to u know who!!!
Guys we have the players in there to win but the massive problem is we pick the wrong damn players! Why in gods name was Denilson playing? Can someone tell me why we don’t press the play like we did earlier in the season?
We miss Diaby and RVP badly. We should at least have got a striker in.
Aluminia and Denilson are shocking. That attempted clearance by Almunia to a United player was a joke.
Fact is United wanted it more. These players need to roll up their sleeve and put in a shift against Chelsea, we cannot afford to lose or draw, we have to win.
Its time to stop p*ssing around and play players on merit. Ramsey should have played yesterday, he d*cks on Denilson.
bnsb
its like against stoke
denilson will score a goal,and will help the rivals to score 2 or 3 goals
by the way
IS Denilson a Spud???
I really hope nobody gets on Fabs back if (when) he leaves in the summer, why ould a truely world class player want to play in that team. Well done Wenger, you stupid pride in your kids has cost us another season.
How many times do we full apart after a stuffing in the FA cup all due to that twat playing kids in a mans game.
Evra was right, men against boys
chippy… yeah mate, so glad he highlighted denilson getting overtaken by the referee for the 3rd joke!
theres still a day left of the transfer window… get him out while we still can
It’s not the loss itself that irks me, it’s the nature of the loss. The Manyoo scoreline was thoroughly deserved and we have no right to think that we’ll beat Chelsea. We’ve come unstuck and the reason why is simple. You don’t play the champions WITHOUT a striker. It’s those big games that we need big players for.
And saying we couldn’t get what we wanted…….that’s not good enough. There were good strikers we could have arranged deals. But we chose to ignore it.
Iggy = weak, cognitive dissonance, an aberrated view of the situation. Surely we could have acted more diligently than a conceited and hormonal fourteen year old girl.
As a Liverpool fan I feel pity for the Gunners fans. You guys have the same problem as we have at Anfield -a manager with far, far too much power who keeps failing to learn from mistakes.
Wenger seems to think Arsenal FC became Arsene FC after the unbeaten year. It’s so obvious to neutrals that Arsenal are a physically and mentally powder puff side. That’s been the case ever since the old invincibles left.
iceman
Weren’t Fab and Arsh resting their arse on laurels yesterday?
arsenalised
salute to u and ur frnds gunner passion mate,
Our time will come…i hope so…
i wanna live optimistically but wanna direct the wrong things in positive way…
Who does wenger think he is to throw the FA CUP like he did!! If I was the board I would pull him up and say why do you not have a strong enough squad to challenge for all major competition!! You have money and have to realise we will always get injuries!!
BRING BACK DAVID DEIN!! its all gone wrong since he left!!
Chippy – that article is a very good read indeed!!
Duvee
My only answer to u is, Next time such a bet will not even be there…
Arsenal Tom,
Yep some of his observations are spot on but hes just saying what we all feel, But noone at the club seems to want to do anything about it, Until people start voting with there feet and wallet this shit will continue
we cannot afford to lose or draw,
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We can, we have 150 million = in our bank. Show me another club that has
finestcuts
wenger needs HELP,he has given himself to his own ego and greed…
bnsb
well said
I dont blame Fab or Arsh, how many times are they supposed to carry the rest of them. You win nothing with a crap keeper.
Wenger let us all down. Blame is not with the players but the man who plays them.
He simply is over arrogant and has a myopic pair of glasses on which needed changing 3 years ago.
Any manager that plays Denilson in the middle of the park against Man Utd, especially after his performances such as against Stoke, will begin to lose credibility!!!
Wenger plays Denilson who literally loses the ball more times than not, has no penetration, no strength, no power, no defensive mindset, no drive and no BALLS, should never be playing in the middle of the engine room with Arsenal!! Maybe portsmouth – but not us.
I was at the game and could not believe how impotent he was.
Almunia – Ive said since the champions league final (nutmegged and nearpost goal) is not a good keeper. He is a reserve keeper who just happens to have a big mouth and loves to talk to the press and say how great we can be and now is the time blah blah blah. This is his way of keeping his place in the team. By talking like a no.1 keeper.
I think he must have brain washed Wenger to keep playing him.
Trust me he will shut his mouth at the moment, but then 3 games without an error he will start beeping that red clown nose again.
Wenger hasnt bought any midfielder of quality this year or a keeper or a striker. We have had the same problems for 3 years now.
Wenger said JUDGE his team at the end of the season.
At least at the worst, if we dont win any trophies, Wenger will buy to replace this sh*t as his EXPERIMENT would have failed.
Well having paid 1250 for a season ticket this year, I am entitled to see how my money is being spent. New players are NEEDED. Not many!!! Just 2 players of QUALITY would make me happy!!!
Certainly paying for the wages / charity that is Walcott and Denilson is making me slightly bitter.
Finest
Chippy – “Until people start voting with there feet and wallet this shit will continue”
Spot on my man, spot on!!
well written post..
It is time to panic buy! Oh Wenger doesn’t do that, but wait till his next press conference he will say “I tried to sign …” “the valuation was incorrect…” Same old Wenger!
Maybe it is now time to change that f* ckin song before the start of games. Maybe “The Great Pretender” or rework the theme tune from Dad’s Army, “Who do you think you are kidding Mr Wenger?”
Next week when we play the chavs for the 1st time for years i wont watch the game as i cant stand seeing us get humilated like we did yesterday and watch wenger come out with his usual dross sickens me.
Do us all a favour resign at the end of the season as the board havnt the balls to sack you!!
But thats what we are all doing Sabeel, I’m going to try and stay as positive as I can but the probability is that we are not going to win anything, Wenger is not going to sign someone, Fabregas is going to break his leg(joke)….
For the first time in my life I think Wenger is not the unbelievable manager I once thought he was. His decision making and player loyalty is a bit ridiculous recently and I am starting to doubt him. I hope I am teriibly wrong and that we win the Champo league. I don’t think so though.
Chippy, people have already started to vote with their feet, there will be plenty more empty spaces in the crowd from March onwards. Anyone want to pay £50 to see a battle for 4th?
I was as devistated as the next gooner, it just sucks that every time we get close or build ourselves up we get knocked down again.
Agreed we should have beaten a poor Manc side & to get turned over at home is embarrassing.
I dont think Wenger should be sacked because he has done great things for the club but the attitude stinks from him at the moment & he needs a good old pointy boot up the arse. He needs to go back to the old school when we had world class players. The invicibles proved quality & experience wins you trophies.
Rookie, I am the greatest.
I’ve been saying what Pedro said today all season, and people call me negative, including Pedro and that other site, now it seems they are both agreeing with me, how funny.
At least it proves I’m ahead of other blogs with my summing up of players worth, management frailties and stingyness that will ultimately cost us.
And when I read stuff like, we’re top of the league, through to the next round of the FA cup and in the next stage of the ECL, so lighten up, I can now say, are we fuck.
VEK
I agree with you,
what is so Hilarious is these rich buggers Almunia,Walcott,Denilson come out and give Stupid interviews,that they will do this,that..etc etc
why dont they shut up and show us on te field what they got…absolutely infuriating..
I am 100% serious when I say that my preferred choice of GK to start against Chelsea would be Mannone!! The only time I haven’t been shitting myself when balls come into the box was when he played in goal. Almunia and Fabianski clearly crack under the pressure and have far to many flaps in their lockers!! Mannone would have nothing to fear, would want to stake his claim and really go for it.
I just want to see commitment next week, I need 110% from the players, if we lose then go down fighting. This is Arsenal and we need to show the premiership we mean business again.
Put Sol in and Rambo against Chelsea, they are committed players and not shirkers like Denilson and Almunia.
JoeBaker64
yes a NEW song..
Steve agree but them seats are already paid for in most cases so the club dont give a shit,
In years gone by after a bad result you always New The Arsenal would stand up and be counted in the next game can anyone say that about these Cunts ?
Taig mate, Dont forget we left Highbury to be able to compete with the best what a crock of shit that is
I think we need to stop blaming the players!! It all comes down to one man!! WENGER!! HE picks them!! Its wenger responsibility!
TAIG – have you right on the Mannone call
No heart , no ambition, no fight, no trophies, no signings, no idea. – The ‘Mighty’ Arsenal.
It’s Probably too late for next season also, if the majority of grovers can identify the problems the past few years, how come Le boss can’t.
I hate saying this , he is either lying through his teeth, and/or incompetent….. Please. It has to stop.
If I wanted to cringe watching, young talentless nobodys get airtime only for them to crumble And have their false hopes burst within 90mins I would watch x factor .
Geoff – Only a very few people can see beyond Arsene Wenger. I would love to say these ‘fans’ are young and have only experienced the Wenger years but I know that is not the case. I remember the cup wins and league title we won before Wenger and life was all good then too!
chippy…. i cant see it ever ending at the moment mate! the attitude was the biggest problem yesterday and that would take allot longer to sort out than a couple of players.
most of them just arent natural winners/leaders and unfortunately you cant teach that.
Stevie,
What if your company pays? Would you give ****all? What I understand reading this blog is a good portion of season tickets are sponsored, not hard earned money. Sad story.
Arsenal were only top this season because Chelsea and United have been poor!! We have not improved from last season!! IMO
And Chippy, he wanted the credit for that didn’t he, and since we moved, we’ve sold more than we’ve bought, go figure, not even Wigan have that proud boast.
Wenger’s tactical ineptitude was jaw-dropping yesterday, and we were just far too passive.
So sad to see the look of inevitability on the players faces…what the hell is Wenger saying to them? We have a lot of good players with funimental problems, problems that should be addressed and corrected by TRAINING!
Clichy and Bac have had crossing issues for 18 months, but clearly they aren’t even being made to sort them out. Watching Clichy concentrating 100% on just kicking the ball, rather than lifting his head and trying to spot a team mate is embarrassing.
After watching DTI – Denilson the Invisible – jog back with that stupid grin on his face against Stoke, you would think Wenger would have had him focusing on his tracking back during every training session since. Sadly not.
I know the players have a role to play in their own development, but if Wenger is this unique, genious coach then why isn’t he sorting these problems out?
Aluminia – Kicking (and everything else)
Clichy and Bac – Crossing
Denilson – Tracking
Rosicky – The flicks
Nasri – getting into the box and shooting
Nikki – first touch
Theo – first, second, third, forth touch
Arshavin – passing/effort
These are just a few of the persistant problems faced by members of our squad…FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS!
Sort it out!
Rob for me we are worse because we’ve lost Ade and Robin.
Duvee
welcome to the group mate,
We are in the process where all those who feel wenger knows best,and wenger is untouchable..WILL have to introspect,
they have to introspect there BLIND belief in wenger…
I honestly believe we would be better off finishing 5th – The board will take some notice when they are 20M down. As long as we finish in the top4 nothing will change!!!!!!!
bnsb
Bad game I guess…both gave it their all.
Nothing was coming off for either of them.
TAIG, apologies mate but those cups wins meant nothing, we were sh8t in the league until Wenger changed that.
The problem with this team is that no one at board level is telling him, he is £20m we need to get a player in, tell me who you want and we’ll get him. Wenger has changed his stance with football and is too comfortable.
I think Kronke needs to come in.
Chippy – Some where under the flats that now reside where the great Highbury once resided is Wenger’s philosophy of buying big, strong, talented, committed players that have the will to win at any cost!!
Sometimes I think that our ‘Invincible’ period has cost us more than it won us!! Since then Wenger thinks he is a God amongst men who can do whatever he wants. Tit.
Top post will wenger ever see the damage he is doin? BUY NOW!
Rocky7, Painfull mate wasnt it the lack of heart and desire should see half that side pack up there stuff and fuck of down the road to spurs,
Surprised no one else has yet mentioned Denilsons attempt at an Og from his defensive header that twat has got to be the only defensive midfield that cannot defend, Not content with gifting them 2 goals he also tried to score the first for them !
If wenger came out and said look we have no more for X amount of years because of this and that!! but he has the cheek to come out and say we can afford Villa etc and we have money blah blah!! WENGER OUT!! Where are the AKB’s today!!
@bnsb
“Pool, Villa city, even spurs -umm are not going to roll over..”
Agree about Pool, but if previous seasons are anything to go by, the others will definitely roll over. The incompetence of the chasing pack has kept us and Pool in the top 4 for the years.
Fk Mannone! The only keeper we have who is getting rave reviews is a 19year old on loan. Call him back in and drop the Clown and Denilson to the point they are not even on the bench!!! Show them we wont accept this patheticness!
Man Utd exposed ALL our flaws yesterday. Clichy was so pathetic I could not believe what I was seeing. There is a reason Evra is french no.1. Clichy is a lightweight. That is light in the brain department. How he didnt even try to tackle the chinaman..well it was disgusting
taig fuck Mannone he is not even close to Fabianski’s standard.
Get Scescscssynys back from loan and stick the boy in.
WE NEED DIABY FIT
A midfield of Diaby Cesc and Song would’ve won that game.
VEK
Its time to get militant. If enough fans show their disgust the club will have to change things, whether that means putting pressure on Wenger or just throwing him out I dont care.
Wengers policies are getting us nowhere.
I’m with you brother.
Unfortunately many others are spineless and are happy to pay the highest prices to watch attractive football.
I have a mate who plays with Matt Saunders (of Fulham’s reserve team)’s older brother. Apparently Smalling wanted to sign for us, but his agent pressured him into signing for Man Utd because it was a better deal financially.
Im fed up with saying the same thing again so all Im going to say is this , he said we were poor offencively and defencesively and when asked are you are going to enter the market said “no ”
WENGER IS A FOOL WHOS,S STUBBORNESS HAS COST US AGAIN
Galviniho – I see what you are saying about the cups but my point is more that other managers can win things for us too. You are spot on about the board though.
taig
NAILED ON. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Where’s the incentive for blokes like Theo to get better when they’re on 60 a week? What’s the next stop? 100 a week. And for what?
This goddamn bullshit is fast getting out of hand.
And to think that he TRUTHFULLY phoned about David Villa. What was he prepared to offer Valencia? 50 quid? Arrogant, smarmy prick.
Wenger out is a bit much to be fair he got us to this position after the Chelsea spanking.
Geyser was kind enough to point out today that cuntiness comes with age. Well we only have to wait till Denilson is 80….
How do u guys would feel if WENGER LEFT RIGHT NOW????
will it help?
galv but we cant afford these spankings
Chipo – Diaby is not going to solve our problems!!
1 signing in 2 transfer windows is shocking beyond belief.
Seeing the highlights which was painfull.
Denilson/Clichy awfull. How can a defender who plays for this club just watch and not even close down park as he is running thru, winterburn would never had done that.
Denilson, surley that is his last game for this club
Got let wenger see season out now mid season manager changes never work
That was fecking embarassing.
That was the worse Manu team I have seen in decades and they ripped us a new arsehole!
The worrying thing is that we all know the twat won’t sign anyone but if my some miracle he opens his chequebook, then I’m afraid it’s TOO LITTLE TOO LATE, as the horse has already bolted !
Why is he such an arrogant, stubborn arsehole ???
This is a sad day indeed…
I can’t do or say much from South Africa and I have to rely heavily on you guys to carry my voice to the Arsenal.
I’m fed up with Wenger treating the Arsenal like its his personal play thing because it is not and he is ruining everything we stand for as a huge club.
Denilson is the first Brazilian I have ever seen that cannot trap or control a ball…what a disgrace.
Almunia is the most frustrating goalkeeper I have ever set my eyes on, it’s simple, he is not a goalkeeper end of.
Wenger has to go, I know the AKB’s will say there is no managers out there, but guess what, Wenger was a nobody when he arrived and I’m damn sure we can find another nobody.
I’m not going to use profanity because it does not change the result, I think it’s time for the serious Arsenal fans to take a stand and save our beloved club from being destroyed…I cannot be seen as supporting “NEARLY” players.
Wenger, you can stop with the whole “Mental strength” stories, it’s clear that the whole world can see these boys do not have the mental strength, and will not have it anytime soon.
Your project has failed and it is time to accept and move on or be seen as the man who destroyed The Arsenal…
I’m sorry for the long post but I have reached a point where enough is really enough.
“I’ll only sign a player who is better than what we have already”
So we’re gonna be making about 6 signings by 5pm! That’s nearly one every hour. Cosmic.
Should we just take 3rd place and a Champs League QF exit to Man U right now?
Anyone that thinks Wenger is the be all and end all is having a laugh.
Great manager – without a doubt – but he hasn’t won anything in 5 years
But there are plenty of other great managers who do win things that could manage out club.
He got sacked from Monaco for bringing loads of kids, african kids – he’s done the same thing to us.
Big Dave
even more shouldnt clichy atleast fouled park in his run,till the box…
Lets ask wenger.
Diaby and Denilson going for a 50-50…who does he think is gonna come away with the ball.
Arshavin and Bentdner husselling for a cross….who does he think is come second best.
Dont the AKBs see how old rooney is and how far he’s come.
TAIG, I admit give me Pep Guardiola, Capello or Leonardo and we may be talking.
Before Wenger there was Rioch, that is something I do not want to go back to. Some Arsenal fans do not remember the old days and someone people should read about the past, we did not win the league from 71 to 89.
The problem with this team is it still needs a bully boy like the Chelsea and Man Utds. We miss Vieira badly and people of that elk, they stand up, they don’t fall down. We miss the Boulds, Keowns, Adamns, Parlours etc.. of this world, Petits, Gilberto’s…the list goes on. I actually feel sorry for Song at the moment with Denilson alongside him, the man puts a shift in.
Zac, I feel the same as you. Ive been going since 1969 and sitting there yesterday I felt the love for my Arsenal draining away. I cant put into words how that feels. The club has been my whole life, and now wenger is taking it all away from me!!
Dave, we all know that Denilson is Wenger’s Love Child, he is never going to be dropped!
“Judge me in a year”
Don’t you worry your little socks Arsene, I can’t fucking wait for that day to roll around!!
hiddink is jobless.
Very well written post.
Look, I like anyone want to believe in greatness for this Club, & enjoy getting caught up stirring calls to arms about The Clubs bold challenges for the PL & CL, but in all honesty, I did not think that SAF was going to have AW pull one over him. He is a canny old Scot, & has a true belief that he will triumph on the big occasions.
The Arsenal is full of wimpy players who are soft, overpaid “girlie men” (as Arnie would say) apart from a handful who carry the can week in, week out. This ideology that seems to dog this Club is a direct result of the self righteous attitude of the manager, who thinks he is the chosen one when it comes to football standards, & when his methods are challanged or overcome by another team or manager, he whinges to the press. He never admits he is wrong, instead he implies that everyone else is wrong, & that my friends is the 1st sign of madness.
Lads you’d be kidding yourself’s if u think Denilson, Almunia or even clichy are the end of our problems. We were highly disorganized yesterday. Where were the CDs and DMs for the goals???
Anyone remember going 1 down in 27 seconds to a Gudjohnsen goal at the bridge in 2004 and KNOWING we would win?!
Anyone remember Harry Redknapp saying “theres no point getting rough with them, theyre the biggest, strongest team in the league”?!
Anyone remember UTD resorting to kicking the shit out of us in 2003 FA Cup cos we were playing them off the park with a weakened team?!
Fuck me the standards have been allowed to slip.
My problem even with all the fans complaining – is does this get through to Wenger????? I sit too high up in the fkn stands to vent my anger but dont the fans near Wenger say to Monsieur, in a polite not hooligan way – that Denilson and Almunia are not very good.
Arsenal fans have been the most patient and the most frustrated. There is a reason why arsenal fans have the most amount of blogs. Its because we have had the most to discuss!! Sometimes that is not a good thing!!
Dont the AKBs see how old rooney is and how far he’s come.
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Rooney is bald, how old is he?
Does anyone know if the Arsenal PR machine picks up blogs like this one??
rob green i disagree.
Diaby will solve our problems because it means Denilson will be on the bench!!
The person i feel sorry for is Fabregas imagine playing with that shower of shit week in and week out!!
it seems like FA curse
goeff you said denilson will start worse then that almunia will also start.
2 goals down and i could take more…i turned off tv
worst i recieved a call early morning from chav guy sympathising me for the lost
Mr B – I hear ya! Defensive work is clearly forgotten about on the training ground!!
gambon – I’m just gonna let you say everything for me! Always spot on!
Went to the game yesterday and was going to post my thoughts this morning. Having read all the posts so far, you have all read my mind and I am tired of going over old ground. We are in a 5 way dogfight for to C/L places and that is the sum total of our ambition. The only plus from yesterday is that I got under the skins of two AKB’s.
Our full backs don’t practicing crossing and because they arent good at cross the arsenal keepers are not good at dealing with crosses.
I mean how can they practice it if no one at the club can knock a decent cross in for them to practice with?
Anyone see match of the day 2? Alan hansen pretty much nailed it in his analysis, united worked harder, wanted it more, tracked back as a team and all pushed forward at the right time!
We need to face facts, weve got a bunch of lazy fuckers in our team who arnt willing to put in a shift. Nasri, and asharvin doesnt care about defending, and denilson cant defend. Footballs not just about attacking.
I very much doubt wenger will do anything in the transfer window though cos he has ‘belief’ and look where thats got us
bnsb…..Ill give u a guess??? who did he scorw his first PL goal against and how long after comming on was that???
40 years standing on the terraces, and this has to be one of the saddest days as an arseanl supporter. AW doesn’t know best anymore. if he can’t accept that he’s got it completely wrong then he has to go. we needed strengthening and he didn’t do it. no more excuses. we need change somewhere. we are the best of the rest, and that’s not good enough. he’s had enough time now, this was a shite Utd team. very very low point today.
We are in a 5 way dogfight for to C/L places and that is the sum total of our ambition.
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Haven’t we been here before, sigh
Arshavin = greedy cunt on 3 occasions he shot when there were better players around him he showed the same greed against Bolton after that sublime piece of skill he opted 2 shoot instead of passing 2 a desert stranded Walcott. I know he kept us in the top 4 and I appreciate it belive me but it seems he is become very jelous of the attention Fabregas is getting and considiring the fact he has’nt performed pretty much all season it’s getting 2 him the invincible team had Henry who was praised 2 the hilt but the players around we’re still unselfish same with the current Barca side with Messi been talked about 24-7.
Arshavin needs a kick up the arse however having said that our overall problem is Wengers fault. The second and third goal we conceded tells u everything u need 2 know about Wenger and his attack first defend later philosophy. The 2nd goal just pissed me of cuz thats what happened against Everton. And the third goal oh my god!!! our back line pushed up as if it was the last minute of the game wouldn’t be at all surprised if Wenger told his defense 2 do that.
SOS. Same old story. frozen on the big stage. I think AW better think and analyes what had happened.Actually
it all boils down to all the gunners joining in the attack leaving acres of space.
MU had the midfield choked and broke out very fast on the counter. Two/three raking passes and the ball is in the net.Arsenal’s build up is slower thereby negating the element of surprise. Furthermore the gunners tend to pass all day waiting for the perfect moment to shoot.The perfectmoment btw doesnt exist in soccer. It is shoot on sight..
AWs policies are flawed and if he thinks all teams are agoing to play soccer instead of anti scocer ,heaven help Arsenal. This sort of thing has been going on for the last six seasons.The gunners always fall at the final hurdle.
Over to you AW.BTW no manager/player is indispensable.
How’s this for something not yet mentioned…Arshavin was playing for himself. He had some great chances to lay off a pass to Nasri, Rosicky and Walcott but he does not trust them so he went for it himself. I don’t doubt the skill of these players, injuries have taken their toll, but their heads are not right. For all his qualities I could not understand why when the ball was not in play Fab spent alot of the time with his head down.
VEK… the people who sit around wenger are the limpest most weak minded arsenal fans ive ever seen mate!
i sat there on a comp tickets a while ago and when me and my mate stood up to get a better look at an attack (which resulted in arshavin scoring) people all around us complaining to the security bloke and calling us ‘selfish’ for standing up!!
they’d never question him mate.. wouldn’t have the balls
We were known as ‘ the invincibles’…….
perhaps we should give this squad the nick name ‘the invisables’
Mr B
Nice guy you are, rubbing salt to wound?
http://www.soccer360.co.uk/wayne-rooneys-first-goal-for-everton-video/
Invincibles team v current team
Lehman v Almunia
Campbell v Gallas
Toure v Vermaelen
Cole v Clichy
Lauren v Sagna
Pires v Fabregas
Ljungberg v Nasri
Vieira v Song
Gilberto v Denilson
Bergkamp v Rosicky
Henry v Arshavin
I make most of them a complete non-contest!!
Chippo
Diaby can not stay fit , that is why we should buy quality and should of done ages ago . Denilson is just not good enough .
same old thing , sick of it , Wenger won,t buy cos eferyone else says we should , that is it ,
it is ego , he is now looking a fool .
and as for Almunia …………….
ade went and rvp was out ages ago , a stiker should have been in beggining of jan , look at the line up yesterday , up front !!!!
HEY BUT DON,T WORRY , RVP COMING BACK WILL NOW ALSO BE LIKE A NEW SIGNING .
HE IS A FOOL ,
Cant believe noone has mentioned Nasri!! The guy yesterday played like a little fat ponce.
Never ran back, never defended, couple chances he had he didnt look interested, barring one nice turn he did diddly fkn squat.
This team has no drive or potency, the invincibles were so good we could just watch them drive forward and almost expect a goal.
The expectations of supremacy have been replaced with mediocrity.
The biggest problem is that certain players know that they will continue to get selected regardless of how they play
Wenger has to abandon this youth policy in the summer. He has to go out and buy decent seasoned players to form a new team. Some of the existing team can stay (Arshavin, Cesc, Song, Vermalean, Gallas) the rest can be used as substitutes. Somebody at Arsenal has to kick arse and get things to change or fans will change to other teams. When will the Board realise that fans have had enough. Problem is their is a waiting list for membership and the Boatd do not see a need to take action. If this waiting list dwindled they might take notice.
Someone once said to me that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing time and time again and expecting a different result. In life if you do X you get Y – If you do A you get B. I think what mpst fans are missing is that in the current world of football – whether we like it or not – to have a financially sound business and long term stability at your club to ensure the disasters of Portsmouth Leeds et al are not repeated in the red and white half of North London you have to respect and abide by what Mr Wenger is doing. To win trophies and compete you have to splash lots of cash – the second method has no guarantees attached and potentially disasterous downsides. It may just not be possible to have both results from one method.
It may not be possible to follow the youth policy and win trophies – we as fans should perhaps realise this. I was as disgusted and deflated by yesterdays inept performance as any gooner but I am STILL a gooner. It may not be possible to do X and get B ( if you follow )
You cant have everything in this world. I still wish Mr Wenger would would just shut the f**k up about not being able to find better players than he has or stunting the development of the young players – with that he is putting way too much trust in human beings who lose motivation / fitness . have their heads turned etc.
The failings of this team are all too obvious and infuriating but life is NOT perfect
Who is better than Mr Wenger to take us forward ??? I hav emy ideas but until I stump up enough money to buy 30.1% of the club ashares I am not going to have a say. The board wont take any notice unless no-one attends a game at the Grove but that aint going to happen any time soon. The Manc have a fairly impressive fan movement to demonstrate their unhappiness about the Glazers ut teh yanks arent listening. Why should Hill Wood be any different.
If you atre a real Gooner then get on supporting the club cos we arent going to get any change out of this lot
unfortunately what i saw last night was alot more than just a striker or tranfer market problem, it looked a clear case of the wrong components in key areas and alot of neglect, the performances of almunia, denilson, clichy and arshavin uptop without a main striker is self explanatory, but the neglect stood out for me…..neglect to teach this team how to defend as a unit, a simple defensive coach which wenger hasn’t had since keown in 06 season, there were certain fundemantals missing in goal 2 and 3 conceaded last night that even i was taught at school when defending, “when on the end of a counter if you’re on your own go to the man with the ball” an italian would use a prossional foul to slow the game down
“fat little ponce” …lol!
And what on earth was wenger thinking at half time?We were 2 goals down and he still kept 2 DM’s on the pitch.Shocking indeed
Kroenke is going to launch a takeover bid this summer, hopefully if that goes through things will change.
Why is it that Pat Rice looks as though he’s been given the question to “the answer is 46″ (Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy)and doesn’t quite know what to do with it? Or is he auditioning for the nodding dog part in the Churchill Insurance ad. Oh,yes.
Morning all.
TAIG 9.22. Top post that.
Has anyone else ever witnessed a top flight football team concede a goal and turn into shambolic quivering wrecks in the space of a few seconds we turn into the keystone cops its like watching a 10 years old match every charging forward and then no cunt tracking back.
Pedro you’re on the money with the post.
All season as a group of regulars at the Grove we have doubted the ability of Denilson and Almunia.
Denilson was given time & space by United yesterday as they knew he would pass the ball sideways, or give it away. This gave United the chance to double up on Fabregas.
Denilson has no sense of tracking forward runs, like the Rooney goal. Yesterday he made some terrible errors, and played most of the game marking thin air.
Almunia just isn’t good enough. He instills no confidence in the defence and has made some stinking errors in virtually every game.
Clichy was targeted yesterday, and needed help. Denilson or Nasri needed to step in, and they didn’t. Clichy looked shaky, and a shadow of the player he was. Hopefully he can recover that form he used to show!
Morning,
Great post guys, summed up to perfection as usual.
Said this when I came on last night after got in from that shocker of a game.
Our players just let them have the ball everytime, FOR AS LONG AS THEY EFFING WANTED!! It was shocking, we just game them space and time, didnt press the ball and made them look better than they were!!
I cant remember the last time we played Manure and they left the ground without a single booking!! IT WAS TOO FUCKING EASY FOR THEM!!!
3 players did ok for me, Verm, Gallas and Song, but Song got a bit cautious after the ridiculous booking he got off that cnut ref Foy.
Men against boys again out there yesterday.
Kroenke is going to launch a takeover bid this summer, hopefully if that goes through things will change.
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500 million debt, 50 million annual interest
Welcome to the new world
bnsb he was 16years and 360 days old then. We could have done better than that i terms of player aquisitions. I dont think his 100 goals in 250 odd games is great.
But it saddens me to say that Nic is worst than a sunday league player. Even I know that u have to move the ball (shimmy, drop the shoulder and take the ball the other way) immediately after u bring it down or you’ll have a defender nick it off u.
Nic just kept brining it down and handing it to united. Thats what experienced defenders do…they wait for u to try to control the ball and while u have your eyes on the ball they rob u.
Nothing will change even next year with Wenger.. He might buy a player or 2 on the cheap ofcourse and at the age of 17 and 20..
I know we wish we could find another henry, but realistically with odays wages arsenal are just not in the contest unless we sign another african player willing to accept a lot less.
Forget buying amother striker… we are 3 key players short and i have said it all along..
DENILSON
ALMUNIA
CLICHY
buy quality at all these positions and u will have a far better and competitive arsenal team.
I will also give players like Nasri, Walcott, Rosciky one more year to get their shit together as well..
The latter i can forgive after being out of football for so long.. but the other 2 havent delivered this year or have been too injury prone..
Nasri to me has been a real dissapointment this year.. not creating enough and is too lazy when it comes to covering and chasing..
I have 2 say this I’m I the only one who gets absolutely frustrated with our fullbacks particular Sagna crossing 4 a midget in Arshavin it’s unfukinbelievable. And this throw in technique when they just throw forward which they did against Aston Villa it cost us a corner against Liverpool last season it cost us a goal but they don’t learn beacuz Arsene does not look at his team. When things go wrong he moans throwing his hands in the air like a petulant child when things go wrong 4 Fabio, Carlo.A, Hiddink etc they or there assistant bring out the notepad and pen 2 draw up new tactics and make subs if it don’t work.
What does Wenger do blame the opposition.
Sharkey – Now, with you, I cant tell if you’re being serious or not?
This club has so many injuries that none of them can get a run in the side for more then I can remember
Diaby plays, get hurt and is out
no one plays together not a steady team
All the players are to similar in style and height.
It needs to be mixed up. where has the power gone, the strength in the side
We haven’t won nothing for years, atthe end of the day the buck stop’s with Wenger he must sort it.
And to people who say that was the worst man u team they have seen for ages, well they were miles better then us. We could do with a rooney, carrick or fletcher.
The club died a bit when they got rid of Dein, he would had pulled AW up on a few things, funny that we not won nothing since he left.
I have been slagged off for a long time for saying for the past 4 years, even when we had a half decent team, that Wenger has taken us as far as HE can. My reaction is not a knee jerk one, I’ve been around to see Graham, Terry Neil etc…. there is always a time when a manager should know he is done……
The team we have now has no physical strength, no world class striker (RVP is a man who plays behind a striker) and a very very average keeper.
My saddness is only made worse knowing that in the summer, if we win nothing (which looks very likely out of FA cup, out of Prem running…. only Champions league left!!! yes right!!), Cesc WILL GO, as I suspect will Arshavin.
Until Wenger either goes, or stops acting like a economics prof instead of a Football Manager, WE WILL WIN NOTHING!!!!!!
Denilsons Chip into Arshavin in the box was a corker as well the look on Arshavins face was priceless it was along the lines of you stupid fucking retard im 5 4″
It’s so typical, it’s so obvious and most of all, the fact that Wenger yet again haven’t done anything to rectify his mistakes is frustrating.
If the Aston Villa game showed signs, this was the testamony that the FA loss completely ruined our momentum, and as you said Geoff we’ll probably have to struggle for the the 4th place now.
MetalGear-Atleast Sagna defends properly.
bnsb – can you give some facts to back up that theory?? Firstly Kroenke won’t be able to take 100% ownership because Fatmanov won’t sell, secondly none of his other sports business’ interest have been funded with debt, thirdly he’s close to selling his stake in the St. Louis Rams for around $300 million & finally he has already paid cash for the 29.9% he currently owns, so he doesn’t need to finance that purchase.
GMR
Im not so sure, from, looking at Kroenkes other sporting interests he doesnt seem to focus on success, but who knows, i did hear he bankrolled a big signing for his BB team, even though the team couldnt have afforded him themselves.
I also believe he doesnt load the clubs with debt. He is trying to sell the Rams which would raise enough to finish his purchase of Arsenal.
I wouold also expect Fiszman to maintain 10% or so of the club, so he wouldnt be buying the wholething.
Nothing wrong with full backs crossing, but what happened to the low cross or cut back?
we just lump it up in the air where our strikers have no chance of winning it!
MG
Sagna occasionally got a good pass. Who was there at the other end. Our forward line has been pathetic for sometime now. Zero sense of positioning.
the strategy of ditching the fa cup (and even carling cup) is looking like an error of titanic proportions!.
The squad is not good enough and big enough with quality.The games against everton and bolton recntly illustrated the deficiences…it was no surprise to me we got well beaten yesterday.
Wenger is a genius…but geniuses often fail to see the obvious.
Lol GMR why dont you just make all my points 1 minute before me!
I wonder who state tv have lined up for todays new improved contract to take the headlines away from such a shit performance i reckon todays special talent getting a new deal will be Sunu Anyone else?
Morning guys! Depressed is an understatment for me this morning!! Yesterday after all the stick I was getting off the man u supporters (in my local) a Liverpool supporter said to me that at least after 5years benitez has won carling cup and the champions! And the liverpool supporters want him out! So I think us arsenal supporters are just to blame as wenger, he has it easy, the board are happy cause he has saved loads off money! Iv never said this before but wengers time is up! Jose Mourineo(spelling) for manager! I don’t care about his past, he’s a great manager an not afraid to get the cheque book out
Arseanl lack passion out there.. the desire to fight for the ball and protect their own man.. sure when we beat lesser clubs it all looks good and e veryone’s happy but in reality we fail miserably when the going gets hot.. it proved that the comeback against bolton didnt mean much at all.. we did it because bolton are easy prey for us and thats it.
Where’s the heart and soul out there.. the tenacity that wins clubs trophies.. I hate Evra’s guts but he was right in calling us boys against men..
We can beat Chelsea!!! If we do that and Chelsea drop points again..YOU NEVER KNOW!!!!
Only beginning of feb!!!
I am trying to be optimistic.
OZ
HOW CAN YOU SAY FORGET BUYING A STRIKER WITH THE LINE UP YESTERDAY AND RVP , ADE GONE , WALLCOT CRAP AND INJURED , EDU INJURED AND BENTNER NOT THE ARTICLE YET ! ??
I agree about deniloss and koko
I WOULD JUST LKE TO SAY THAT ARSENE WENGER CAN LEAVE AND GO TO ANY TEAM!
ALL THE ASENAL PLAYERS CAN LEAVE AND GO TO ANY TEAM!
EVEN THE BOARD CAN BE CHANGED FOR A NEW CLUB!
YET WE WILL ALL DIE TRUE GOONERS, HOW MANY OF THEM PLAYERS,
COACHES OR BOARD CAN SAY THE SAME.
NO HEART, NO PASSION, NO ZEAL, NO LOVE.
(NO RIGHT TO WEAR MY TEAMS BADGE ON THE SHIRTS)
PASSION OF A GERRARD.
PRIDE OF A ROONEY.
HEART OF A HENRY.
WE SHALL ALWAYS BE GOONERS 4 LIFE
MANAGERS & PLAYERS WILL COME AND GO.
WE ARE ONE FAMILY AND I LOVE YOU ALL, AT LEAST WE HAVE EACH OTHER.
STAY STRONG KEEP THE FAITH IN THAT BADGE THAT YOU WEAR ON YOUR SHIRT.
GOONER 4 LIFE.
Good post Pedro although I think you were very restrained. On top of everything I hate the fact that the press are talking about the mancs being clinical. If they play like that against shitty, chavs or bindippers they’ll lose. We were absolutely fucking rubbish.
Im sick of of Wenger too i must admit.. I think its time for him to go as well..
Good post Pedro.
No fighting spirit in the team.
Wenger said its a mental problem but I would go further and say that our players lack self respect.
Wenger’s youth policy at Monaco failed and he was sacked. As long as David Dein was here, we were signing a big name every year. When he left, we sold all our experienced players and took minnows on board.
We will not win anything like that, he has to realise that and change it, or step down……if he has some self respect.
You got three years with your youth project, it did not deliver, so take stock of the situation.
There is no desire in this team. They just don’t care when they are hammered. Sticking with such players is stupid.
SELL Denilson, Walcott, Clichy. They always fuck up in the big matches.
A guy like Van Der Vaart would have been handy, but we can spend for obscure reasons.
It appears there are no available players out there who are better than what we currently have.
It a joke Wenger, une plaisanterie de mauvais gout. You brought a lot of happiness to this club but I hope you resign before you are asked to leave.
Gambon – lol, it’s really annoying when that happens.
Altogether now…………………………………………..
Chelsea, wherever you may be, don’t leave your wife with JOHN TERRY!
It makes me laugh hearing people say how in time Bendtner is going to be really good. Just because he’s Scandanavian and tall, don’t make him Ibrahimovic. Now or ever.
Move on.
There must be a goalkeeper we could sign today.
The reason i say that Jules is because were just plain unlucky with strikers.. I wanted carlton Cole but he doesnt fit into wengerball..( figure that ) and he is one of the few quality strikers we can afford..
The 3 players i addressed are the foundation of the team and we have seriosu problems in the centre of midfield..
bnsb – can you give some facts to back up that theory?? Firstly Kroenke won’t be able to take 100% ownership because Fatmanov won’t sell,
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Only rafa gives out facts, this is pure speculation:
Fatmanov will sell, me thinks. He is not an idiot, he is slowing buying up small tranche of shares at higher and higher price. Oh yes Fatmanov will make FAT profit.
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secondly none of his other sports business’ interest have been funded with debt,
As i understand his interest in strictly sports. It is things surrounding it(sports) real estate merchandise, telecast right. Slowly milk the asset, feed trash.
If anyone has info, please tell me this. How many of Knonke sports ventures are at the top. Or even in top four. One Arsenal football club. correct me if I am wrong.
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thirdly he’s close to selling his stake in the St. Louis Rams for around $300 million
Every Arsenal fan should hail Kroenke if he does that. Will he?
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& finally he has already paid cash for the 29.9% he currently owns, so he doesn’t need to finance that purchase.
As I understand he has not. He still owes some installments.
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Lastly 70.01% of shares at around 10000 a share. Do the math.
Metal Gear, yours od 10.11. I have studdied Wenger from my lofty perch at the Emeroids and have come to a conclusion with regard to his flapping of arms on the touchline. I deduce that he is, in fact trying to contact Al betwtwixt the stix through semaphore signals. Unfortunately, he does this when those opposition chappies are on the attack, rendering our guardian of the old onion bag in two minds as to go for the ball, or reply in kind. As we know, this usually ends up with said ball in the back of the net, or to render our defence into such a state of panic, they cannot tell left from right, or indeed, which way they should be facing. This falling between two stools (and I am not talking Denilson or young Theo here) has resulted in Al having harsh words with Sir Weng. So much so, you may have noticed a rather vigorous flap just after the third goal, to which Al’s reposte must have been quite hurtful, as Weng retired to the bench and spent the remainder of the second half, sulking in sullen silence.
Joe Baker, Wenger Watch, the Emeroids.
Morning Grovers,
Bloody depressing yesterday and worse this morning. The thing that was even worse was me knowing that there was no way we could turn it around in the second half.
GMR – why should Stan change things around when he takes over? he has a model now that is making money and to change things may put that into jeopardy.
Asamoah Gyan Wants To Help us get reorganised. Unfortunately the less than 20M that can get him must pass via AW. We got no options. I expect Denilson to be dropped and Ramsey promoted. Traore would have been more decent than the Clichy of yesterday. By the way how Much can we get off loaning Wenger Out. Any takers
I want some people’s opinions here…
Is Nasri just too young yet or could he become a flop ? I know he has come back from injury but the talk about him being the next Zidane at one stage seems a little far off..
Stop Press:
Arsenal have confirmed that they are ready to officially launch an application for the Sony PSP which will allow fans to stream matches live while they are at the club’s Emirates stadium.
Supporters with the requisite device will be given a special disk which will allow them to connect to the Arsenal stadium wireless signal and give access to data, statistics, instant replays as well as the aforementioned live coverage.
Angus Kinnear, marketing director at Arsenal FC, said:
“I believe that this is the future of how fans want to digest the football they watch. As a club we want to be driving supporter services.”
http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/33423/Arsenal_enter_partnership_with_SONY.aspx
Hansen intimates the biggest concern for his Premier League title chasing side would be the fact that their two centrebacks actually played well individually, which once again highlights Arsene Wenger’s lack of a leader in the mould of Patrick Vieria or Tony Adams.
The Liverpool legend added: “The worry for Wenger will be that his centre-backs, William Gallas and Thomas Vermaelen, actually played well, individually.”
“But collectively, the team did not do its job. Where is the leader who can identify the problems on the pitch? Where is the Tony Adams figure who will shout players back if Arsenal are too open and exposed?”
“Cesc Fabregas is a wonderful footballer, but he is not a leader in the sense of organising and marshalling his team-mates in those situations.”
“If you are taking a corner but you need more bodies back to prevent the counter-attack, it isn’t rocket science to realise that you should not commit so many men forward.”
“These are basic and fundamental parts of the game. Arsenal aren’t doing them properly and when that’s the case, you’ve had it.”
“If you want to be applauded for playing wonderful, attractive football, then fine, but if you want to win trophies, there has to be a balance that includes the crucial defensive aspects.”
Oz_gooner
I want some people’s opinions here…
Is Nasri just too young yet or could he become a flop ? I know he has come back from injury but the talk about him being the next Zidane at one stage seems a little far off..
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IMHO Nasri has the potential. He will prosper only with better or as good people in front of him. He is not a game changer or a leader, but a good water carrier. Holds the ball, can weave around mid field and feed the forward line. When we have a world class forwards, he will come good. As you have said he is not the terrier he used to be when he first came in. Injury has taken its toll.
When the midfield is shite and cannot do the passing game of ours (right Clichy? right Denilson? Cant make a friggin pass, can ya?), we should try other alternatives, and that doesnt mean to start senseless long balls and run everybody to their boxes (generally leading to other goals scored against us).
We need more variation and specially positioning. Often when we cannot do the passing game it is not because the opposite defence is so tight, but because our friggin players cannot position and make theirselves like static poles in the field.
And in the end I only see Cesc and Vermaelen with the blood in the eyes, with the silverware fever. You can see from kilometers their desire. Can you see desire in Almunia eyes? Clichy? Denilson? Only if its desire to fuck things up.
We have so many signs we need new signings, but AW cant get anymore stubborn with his “sheessh Im proving a point here with the kids”, and it seems this is all that matters, more than winning.
Absolutely disappointed and certain to have a shit week
0z_gooner
I dont think NAsri is a flop, the problem is that you cannot expect him to do more than he can. Every team has one or two Exceptional players that are capable of turning things round and winning matches, for us I would put Cesc, RVP, and Arsh in that category. Nasri is good as is Rosicky, but when you have holes in your team like Almunia, and Den then you handicap the team before the whistle is blown.
Does anyone actually believe that things will change. Diaby should be fit next week and we can play a midfield of Song Fab and Diaby. BUT I’m sure Denilson and Almunia will start. Why can’t wenger see what ex players, pundits, commentators, fans etc etc etc see.?
Hansen hit the nail on the head.
Particularly vs the big teams you have to think about the clean sheet first, then how to get the goal.
We only think about scoring goals, and get the basics so wrong.
Wenger promised us we would defend better this year, and we are worse.
After Sunday Chelsea will be 11 points clear of us!!
Pedro – sadly this is how it seems – ‘I trusted Wenger to know more than the pundits, journalists and ex-players. It seems that trust was misguided.’
A very sad time; there must be serious questions over either the quality of our coaching staff or the intelligence of our players.
Either coaching staff go or AW introduces more intelligent players. Which is it to be?
morning!
great post Pedro, so much for a ‘good cop’, huh?
http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/4620678/
gambon have you calmed down now? or do you still want wengers head on a plate!!
1. I have said several times before yesterday that ‘meaning of insanity is doing the same thing, the same way and everytime but expecting a different result’, Arsene is mad.
2. Why should we spend all our fortunes both real and expected to build a magnificent stadium, the best in England, only for clubs, whose stadia are not better than Arsenal playing grounds to come each and evertime to spank us? We should have stayed back at the Highbury, buy players and be happy.
3. Arsene is finished and should be done away with.
4. End of story!!!!!!!!!
The games we lost against Man c , chavs and last night are indicative of this type of football.. WHen we are a goal or 2 down we get desperate commit far too many men forward and we have been beaten on the counter..
Fabregas may not be marshalling his troops properly but what about WENGER… isnt he seeing this ?? what part of the game is he watching..
If anyone noticed.. when man u scored their second goal we almost immediately replid through arshavin i think it was .. I think evans made a msitake and allowed and easy through ball in the final 3rd..
Ferguson alsmost had a fit when this happened.. !!
Have u ever seen Wenger do same ??
I believe certain managers know how to get the best out of their players.. We were competing with Brown and Evans ..not ferdinand and vidic..
lets get real here..
i feel to say that we lost this game because top class striker wsa not signed would a massive cop out,because what i saw agasinst manu was flat disinterested team,there corhegion no organisation no pressing in pressing of the ball no attacking as team,i have seen this team since from rvp got injured and lets face they not been strongling for goals yes they have work harder for goals if evon they hard rvp if they had put in this kind of perforamnce they would still 3-1 maybe more,and this nonense about youth policy failed,how many experienced players were playing today aa 28 risicky 29 gallas 32 ,nasri 21 ,fab 21 song 21 delinson 21,all these players have been playing together a while now.i think the real question is how good are players in the market and i dont think there are two many not strikers who will 20 goals a season not top midfielders and the fact man city have hardly any business is evidence of that
Last year in march Liverpool humiliated Utd at Old Trafford and won 1-4. Can you remember who laughed at the end ? For years Utd have been the worst team in the top 4-games and still won the title at the end.
We lost only 3 points yesterday and we lost some pride but the championship is over when it is over. It wasn’t over yesterday.
Begin December we were 11 points behind Chelsea and half January we were level on points.
It all depends on the fixture list and we now play the possible top 4 in 2 weeks time and so we could lose more points now than other teams.
VEK,
it’s not optimistic, it’s called delusional…
Rob Green
After Sunday Chelsea will be 11 points clear of us!!
After Wednesday 14. Take that
The ONLY thing that will cheer me up is the signing of David Villa….tick tock tick tock
tick tock tick tock
leon,
yes. it’s that simple…
and I don’t care about their age – the ban on buying anyone below the age of, let’s say 22 should be imposed with immediate effect…
sorry if it will take me time to reply, just going back to work and it’s hectic down here
reggie,
Im pretty calm about it. I have said since May08 that we needed a change of manager.
I saw this coming, as did a lot of people on here.
The thing that angers me is the enourmous potential we have. Sell the deadwood & the kids that wont make it, and spend £40m plus what we can raise on proper players and we could be beating UTD 3-1 at OT.
Walter
You are our only hope
Wonderful article. Arsene Wenger is the most overrated manager in the world. His estimation about his most of the players is absolutely wrong. Once he thought Almunia should have been considered for England team. Regarding Walcott also he believes that. But fact is he will hardly get a buyer among any PL team for Almunia, Walcott, Denilson, Bendtner, Eboue, Traore, Clichy and so on. Any fool can identify Fabregas, Van Persie, Gallas, Verleamlan, Arshavin, Rosiscy, Nasri, Ramsay, Sagna,Gibbs and Edu as world class footballers and have market value.
Can we still manage to stay in the top 4 you wonder with man c breathing down our necks
After yesterday I’m more concerned with being caught by the teams below us rather than catching the teams above us.
An to worsen the matter, that idiot called Evra captained the manscoursers yesterday. He will give inteview today to say “it felt like playing with kids!
Well said Pedro.
I know a lot of us are fuming…and too right we should be. If we beat Chelsea on Sunday, like we did last season, will be cheering again or still be sceptic!?
I for one will be sceptic. Denilson was a joke yesterday. I don’t understand why he is starting anymore, really i don’t. Examine the 3 goals united scored, and you’ll see he was a problem in all of them. If Fletcher performed that bad in a game, he would be dropped by fergie in an instant for the next few games. Wenger’s just going to wrap him up in cotton wool and tell he everything’s going to be alright.
I had a chat with my mate yesterday, a united fan. I told him the difference between wenger and fergie…is that our team aren’t scared of wenger…but the united boys crap when fergie even talks to them. Look what happened when wenger blew his top for once against the boys in half time against Liverpool!
We looked like a bunch of square peg’s in a round hole’s yesterday. Song played well, Fabregas never gave up, Verminator ran his heart out up and down the field too. I’m embarrassed with everyone else!
Im going to talk about Almunia scoring the first goal in 3D, or that sagna cant cross a ball or about Walcott.
I love Arsenal, my brothers and I bleed for the Gunners. But I can tell you right now and Im not embarrassed to say, that I am one of the fans that gave up my season ticket last year. I cant afford to pay £1990 a year to watch us JUST PLAY PRETTY FOOTBALL against the smaller teams!
The way we are playing, we wont be attracting new fans, the children of this day are mostly attracted by success, and likes of Chelsea and united will keep attracting new fans, and I’m not even going to talk about attracting the star names.’
Fabregas will go, and i have no problem with that, Even if he even left now. Why does a world class player who wants to look back on his career and think about all the medals he won, Want to stay and just build a team for the future at Arsenal.
We have to re-invest in our team, get rid of all these mediocre players and back room training staff. Get a real defensive coach! I think we’ve got the 2nd largest wage bill in the EPL! Things aren’t adding up when you think we haven’t won a trophy in 5 years! I feel sick! My stomach is turning and I dont even wanna think about Sunday against Chelsea.
Clichy made Nani look world class….I can tell you right now, if clichy performs like that against Chelski, Drogba is gonna rip him a new backdoor in his backside for sure.
I hate Ashely cole, but look at him now. Look at his medals. Look who’s had the last laugh.
Sorry for this rant….but the truth is, united put a crap team up against us…Probably the worst I’ve seen in a decade and they made us look like a team in North London that wear white, get managed by a con-man, their name starts ‘T’ and ends with ‘ottenham’…oh and they went and saw the pope.
Any fool can identify Fabregas, Van Persie, Gallas, Verleamlan, Arshavin, Rosiscy, Nasri, Ramsay, Sagna,Gibbs and Edu as world class footballers and have market value.
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What took you so long ?
Twice in the space of two months, I have stood in feezing cold weather and watched my team violated.
It just isnt a pleasant feeling. Cheers Arsene.
TAIG. Apologies….thats a very good post.
I didn’t want to go overboard saying it weren’t a rant, that its better than a lot of stuff I read here, cos that might upset a few.
It was a very good post, I enjoyed reading it and I could relate to almost every word of it.
Some very good examples used to illustrate your points.
Apologies for the delay but I have to blog sneakily these days
gambon Im still boiling with rage after yesterdays performance and still the soppy cunt says we are not gonna buy anyone,what the fuck can be done to resolve this situation?
You are right to be worried about those below us,like Man shitty – if they win their 2 games in hand on us they will be only 2 points behind us. See – even 4th place isn’t safe now.
As I said earlier – thanks a bunch Wenger.
suga nothing wroung players 21 -22 if there top top quality would say no buying messe of cause not they just have top quality fab is only 21 i think but he world class player,there was no effort at all there at home with suporters paying huge amount sof money and put up performance like that
An to worsen the matter, that idiot called Evra captained the manscoursers yesterday.
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Evra was shouting and getting his men in position. What was our captain fantastic doing? Making face like a petulant child at missed passes.
So Evra is an idiot.
His mistakes when we play the big boys are very amateurish and unforgiveable. He makes similar mistakes season after season showing that his tactical ability is virtually nil.
when you have 60,000 fans all seeing the same thing and 1 man not acting on what we can all see – then you have a big problem. for me, he cannot solve his inability tactically speaking and for that reason he should go.
If cesc goes, we get £50m. A new manager could have £90m to spend – and I am sure he would spend it.
Wenger should be head of our youth development – because that is what he is a genius at. But fans give a shit about match day, unfortunately for him.
That was the most workman like plain utd i have seen in years and we made them look good
it was clear for all to see wenger needed to adjust the team and formation as utd had the game plan to deal with it.
then the game swung away from us and it was the usual suspects with the same flaws that cost us.
Wenger knows more about football then me admittedly so when i saw the line up thought well he knows
He finally made the changes and took off the waste of space that is denilson utter shit yesterday put theo on against evra who had him in his pocket.Bendy made a diffrance with his height and we pushed utd back for a while why he took off risicky and left on the russian i dont know he was lazy greedy and definitely not his best game in the red and white to lose is one thing but yesterday was an embarrassment.
Wenger needs realise that some in the team are not good enough or his tactics are shit but some things gotta change……fabs was fab that was the only good thing i can say about the forwards and midfield
Al
sagna gallas tv clichy
song
nasri cesc rosicky
wallcott nikkib
this is how he should have changed it imho
The use, timing and deployment of subs yesterday was utterly pathetically useless
Victor Moses has joined Wigan…woohoo!
It wasn’t men against boys yesterday, it was men against girls…
I have got a feeling that Wenger will sign Loic Remy on loan today.
Tick tock tick tick tock
mdi89
You saw anything useful at all?
I think Vermaelen goal was brilliant – absolutely brilliant. It is on 101gg.
Could someone post it here, I am unable to do it
bnsb – Rosisky, Nasri, Ramsay, Gibbs and Eduardo are not world class!!
bnsb – The goal was a reflection!! have you lost the plot!! it was an ok goal!!
sorry i mean deflection
bnsb; yeah, I did actually. I thought the girl around centre block east about row 5 looked very hot indeed.
“Reflection” Rob Green? Surely you mean “deflection” unless you are using a clever metaphor that has gone over my head.
rob green
Rosisky, Nasri, Ramsay, Gibbs and Eduardo are not world class!!
May be they were
Now they are not
They will be, may be
Hansen was spot on about the balance between defence and attack – its not really a problem with quality of players its about what the team as a whole are told to do. we commit too much forward and its suicidal.
sure clichy made mistakes, but teams like Birmingham and fulham have worse players than us, yet Mcleish can coach the team to be hard to break down. If we were hard to break down, our forwards would always score 1 or 2 a game to win the game – but we are way too open.
I’m pretty sure Vermaelen’s shot was heading straight towards van der Sar….
Chippy well said mate you sum up how most are feeling this morning to throw two cup competitions and have no fight against a very poor utd side is nothing short of criminal a very average squad of midgets… Nice one wenger!!
You answered me R Green.
Girls can play better than that wonderboy.. lol
reggie.
Simple, someone at the club must pull wenger up about this and his transfer policy.
But who will that person be ? Gazidis, doubt it, PHW lacks the power he used to have, danny f, never around in the country, Kroenke, lives in the us
Wenger rules the roost their, he has most of the say at the club. Pat rice wont say nothing to him either,
when dein left, it all changed.
Wenger to go in the summer.
yeah, I did actually. I thought the girl around centre block east about row 5 looked very hot indeed.
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Micky! How old are you BTW
Agree Gazap.
We have to be realistic. The players tried their best. They just are not good enough and by that I mean they may have the talent and football ability but not the fighting spirit to dig in and do battle.
Let them leave and buy some different players….who are less intelligent, less talented, less disciplined but more committed…like Carlton Cole, Scott Parker, Bellamy.
We wont get fighting spirit with librarians.
Nani was running the defence ragged and only Song sent him to the ground to pick up a yellow. Before, if a winger did such tricks, Ljumberg & co would send him to have a closer look at the publicity boards.
cesc and arshavin picked a great time to have their worst games in an Arsenal shirt!
Denilson is beyond shit this season. He needs to be bitch slapped till he wakes up. Yes, srooge wenger who still refuses to buy picks him but his lack of effort is appalling. He have a hand at all their 3 goals. After he was subbed we played better. Song can is more that capable playing that dm position on his own. Cesc and song were doing denilson’s job. Liability at it’s best.
From arseblog, for their 3rd goal- “Denilson lost possession in their half. Denilson was overtaken by the 40 something year old referee as he ‘chased’ back says everything you need to know about him at the moment”
Arsene is so scared that denilson will be unhappy if he was dropped. Guess what, we dont care what that poor old lazy millionaire feels. He can rot in reserves for all i care!
And almunia is beyond help, three shots on goal and 3 goals in. We were playing fairly ok before his trademark flap and own goal.
And as much as i LOVE arshavin, he was being greedy yesterday, yes he create the chance all on his own but with nasri and cesc free in the middle waiting for his past about 8 yards away from goal, twice at 0-0 he should have passed.
Everytime manutd counter we will have about 1, 2 (if we are lucky) players left covering. Everytime we tried to counter, manutd have 6 players back. gallas and vermaelen, they need to stop doing this cf impression everytime. And why arsene never instruct his players to man mark rooney out of the game is suicidal. He had about 10 yards of space in diameter every where on the pitch!
78692. He is injured, done his ankle on the weeekend, we have enough injured allready no more please
on an emphatic defeat…
It is difficult to take but easy to explain because we were poor offensively and defensively cohesion-wise. We delivered an off-the-mark performance completely and that is why we were well beaten today. We gave them always too much room, we were naive. I believe we have to stick together now, recover and produce a much better performance next Sunday [against Chelsea].
on why his team were ‘off the mark’…
I don’t know. Did we want it too much? Were we a bit inhibited and tense? I don’t know. The physical reasons are not obvious because we finished the game quite well and we were unfortunate because we gave the third goal away. You could see we finished quite strong and had we come back to 2-1 earlier maybe we had a chance but at 3-1 it was too much.
NO shit sherlock!
bnsb – When has Ramsay and gibbs ever been world class talk about over hyping!!
bnsb – what I’m saying is that you have nothing to back up the claim of 500 million debt & 50 million in interest payments.
As I said he wouldn’t be able to get 100% ownership straight away. Fatmanov will not sell because he is still buying shares at £9500 each, he’s hardly going to do that & then sell them to Kroenke at £8500 which is all Kroenke will be willing to pay. Thats why he has to wait until the summer to make a move otherwise he would have to pay 2k more for each share.
It’s pretty certain that the St Louis Rams will be sold because the majority holder wants out. Kroenke doesn’t have to sell his stake but it was reported that two of the offers are for full ownership.
As for Kroenke & his current holding, he paid off all he owed to Fiszman & the Carrs last week (around 23 million).
taig
I’m pretty sure Vermaelen’s shot was heading straight towards van der Sar….
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I will have to look again. But I think VDS was down and ball would have gone over his head (pun intended), if it was not reflected.
bnsb: 12
what have man city and Paul mccartney got in common??
I loved that Song tackle on Nani. best moment of the match. perhaps shouldn’t even have been a booking but it said Dont fuck with me. (even though clearly Nani went on to fuck with us very much).
wenger is a great manager but playing denilson ia a fukin mistake we need to play some other player in his position he was responsible for strokes sexond goal and he was responsible for mancs second goal fukin disgrace….
Optimism is a good thing but it needs to be based firmly in the real world. Optimism and a positive outlook can work wonders. It can be infectious. But so can pessimism. Unfortunately the former can become the latter very quickly when the right evidence presents itself and that’s how I have felt since the Emirates debacle yesterday. I want to see substantial improvement in the team as time passes but all I have are questions. One though, has been answered and I hope too everyone’s satisfaction. You cannot build a Premier League-winning team on peanuts. Arsene has shown that, even with all his intellect and football knowledge, it can’t be done. It is a lesson that most here have been aware of for some time. He almost made it but ruined the ship for the proverbial ‘hapeth of tar. Specifics are numerous, but here’s a few of mine. He lucked into Lehman and thought that spending big on goalkeepers was a waste of time. The result of this thinking is Almunia. He has available to him the advice and potential coaching excellence of Adams and Keown, part of the best defence ever in the English game and hasn’t bothered to use them to teach the team how to defend. And we all know that defence is critical. How many breakaway goals have we conceded this season? With a defence that leaves the back door open, you will win nothing because the strikers will always have to score twice as many goals. He has persisted with Denilson beyond the point where common-sense runs out. When was the last great game that Denilson had? Giving new contracts to players who should be heading toward the exit door is hardly clever either. He has let one transfer window after another pass without addressing the glaringly obvious missing links while spouting what can only be described as drivel and has thus condemned himself and the team to lay in the shadow of other more ambitious teams, owners and managers. To waste the abilities of Fabregas on this road to nowhere is shameful and sad in the extreme. I really cannot imagine what he is going to do as it seems perversely appropriate that this humiliating defeat should come with a day left of yet another transfer window.
Gee…I cant remember a blog that has had so many arsenal fans want WENGER out…
and so far we havent had any comeback comments like.. go follow the totts or man c if u want a buying club… ( i hated those remarks by the way )
This is very interesting indeed
yeah, make le boss the manager of U-21 team. This way he will be able to only sign youthies and get away with it
Gazzap really i thought it said my tackling is shit
to be fair song had a good game over all
rob i dont think you can gibbs ramsey are world class yet i feel they may become world but there not there yet clichy is player that well well out form right and very low in confedence,but this has nothing to do with yestadays performance they were pressing no zip no effort nothing
GMR
Fair enough. I would be equally happy if a sugar daddy invests his own money and club prospers. But that would be too ideal a situation.
worry is when the person investing, slowly milks the club, we have seen that, haven’t we?
Nasri, Rosicky & Denilson not to fit to wear the shirt.
Walcott to imature, waste of money.
Nasri – £12m (plus wages) waste of money
Rosicky – £8m ( plus wages) 100% waste of money.
Denilson – £?? enough said
Walcott – upto £12m plus ( plus wages ) overrated waste of money
Diaby – £5-7m so far waste of money…
I dont want wenger to go just bring in no2 that will tell him whats what and get involved with the team tactics more rather then sit there like a lap dog.
I really think Man U ( and Chelsea) have a psychological hold over us…we used to approach these games with confidence. but not anymore.
Did any of you also think the moment they scored the first that it was over, I was watching our players in it looked like they were thinking the same thing, there was no purpose in their play to try consolidate and build up attacks, they just attacked at every oppurtunity, passes were rushed and there was not tactical movement.
U could see the after the goal, Man U settled immediately and thought right, let them come at us they not going to get a cross in and we will catch them. That is the most galling of it, basically we played like a pub team
I thought major changes were gonna take place at the end of last season, and what happened? Nothing.
I expect it will be the same this summer too.
I love Arsene and am very grateful for what he did for us, but if he doesnt want to change his ways and go back to how he did things before then I think he should go.
Denilson is another thing I cannot understand. He is playing a parallel sport of his own in his mind, in which conceding goals actually makes you win the game… and boy, he is playing that game for a while now
quite frankly, its not that I wouldnt start denilson. I wouldnt sit him in the bench. Heck, I wouldnt let him go to the Emirates, as I’m afraid that somehow his simple presence would make the team start missing passes and running like a turtle
Nick:
I think most of us don’t want Wenger to go, but the situation is pushing most of to the brink.
Bored. Depressed. No signings on the horizon.
Lied to AGAIN!
I reckon the halftime lucky number draw should be fir the winner to play in goal the following game. Fabianskis record is WORSE than Manuel the clown. Mannone is ok, but showed his true colours against West Ham.
We got 6 hours, BUY A FUKIN KEEPER!!!
Hi Guys,
(First time poster even though I read the site daily).
New Signings:
Yes I would like to see new players come in – we need a new goalie a new DM and even a new striker – even one of these in this transfer window would/could have sparked new life into this squad.
Goalie – Almunia should not be our Number 1 – even if for now we play Fabianski in goal he can’t do worse than Almunia. He is gonna make mistakes but at the moment so does Al.
I don’t think Almunia made a save in teh whole game!!! I would expect an Arsenal number 1 to pull off a game changing save in a game like this and Almunia hasn’t changed a game (for the positive) for us in a long time. He needs to be dropped until he can add value again.
Defensive Mid – Song is our first choice (he was tired yesterday so I will not crucify him for yesterday. He had an OK game).
We need another hard battler in there with Diaby and Ramsey rotating to keep it fresh – they need to be fighting for a place in our first XI – not there by default because everyone else ahead is injured.
Striker – We at least need someone on loan until teh end of the season or at the very least a striker who can come in and be a striker and help us through. RvP is our 1st choice is out until the end of the season, even if he does come back before – will he be able to string a number of games together and be effective in time. Even if he does we could be out of the title race completely.
Again competition for places is key here. Sink or swim time boys !!! Get better at the job Arsenal pay you for or get out !!!
I do have time for our Youth Policy and I can see what AW is trying to do. While teh clubs around us are struggling financially ARSENAl are in a strong position (financially) and in 3-6 years we will see the fruits of that as well as that – I believe in teh youngsers coming though (Jack, Bartley, Gibbs etc) but they need experience around them to bring it together.
We need fighters!
Sacking AW is not the answer right now – but Arsenal as a whole need to re-look at some of their policies !
(Sorry for the long post).
i will never unstand to this day why wenger did not sign shay given he would have come if he made a bid,getting keeper is a must could with bit bulk in midfield and 20 goal a season striker
Geoff: re your post 9.39.
I too have mirrored all your concerns for 2 years. Last week at Villa one of the boys refered to me as ‘he’s a negative cunt ! ‘
Yesterday he conceeded & joined me as a negative cunt !
http://www.arshavin.eu/en/news.php?id=501
He has too much power and is to stubborn he needs a ying to his yang imo dein appeared to be that and since he left we have gone tits up lets get dein back not wenger out
Lou, I am appaled that some fans still sing the praises of a guy like Cesc after all the crap performances he puts in our big games.
A big player turns up in big matches and wins the games for you. He organises the team and gives you confidence.
Arsenal have no leaders on the pitch. The captain title is just on paper, we have no real captain on the pitch to organise the team. When you think that even a guy like Almunia is given the armband sometimes, it says all.
But there was one silver lining yesterday i done something i never do and one of my bets contatined rooney first scorer united 3-1 as ive absolutley no confidence in our mentally strong side, so at least that helped pay for my scotch medication yesterday !!
Great post Lou, agree with it all.
Wenger is just utterly lost at the moment. If you asked him “do you really think Denilson is good enough?” what would he say.
The worrying thing is I actually think he would say “yes, hes a very underrated player” or somethiung like that.
Also he will never admit defest on these substandard kids (esp Walcott) and it will ruin this club.
*something
*defeat
Any team that continually picks a player of Denilsons quality is going nowhere quickly.
AW has made many mistakes in recent years, no tall physical centre half signed, letting Paddy go to Man City, not signing a new striker – but continually picking Denilson is by far the worst. He is mediocre at best, pedrestrian and lacking real manly fighting qualities.
His continuing inclusion has drained my 35 year love & enthusiasm for everything Arsenal.
3rd at best is what we are about – fact.
Maybe we should sign a couple of girls to keep John terry interested and unfocused for our next game..
fabs as captain aint great but wenger done that fabs yesterday for me pushed the team on at every chance he got with actions maybe the words should be the job of vermilion
I was expecting the AKBs to come up with something like we lost for the 1st time in the last 11 games. They did not.
And I wonder how the calm gang feel now , who said there are 20 odd days to go for the window to be closed. Its closed now isnt it ?
A manager who can see the shortcomings and buys players is needed not a deluded one and he has quite a lot of deluded fans as well.
Arsene was a no one when he joined Arsenal. So maybe whoever comes next could do better than how he did or match wenger.
ritesh
Drop the Cesc thing. He is one of the top 10 players in the world.
The big teams stop him from playing cos he’s so dangerous, hence why other players need to help him out.
If he had Gilberto & Vieira behind him he would dominate the big games as well.
Gunner_snoop welcome, you are free to blog, in fact welcome to all the new Grovers, there has been a bunch today, I’m off now so if you come on and find yourselves in moderation, sorry, you’ll have to wait until Pedro surfaces.
Geoff hows the new motor??
Just saw an interesting post by a man utd fan on teamtalk, he compared the costs of the first 11′s yesterday and Arsenals lineup cost more!!
Fabregas will leave in the summer – why would he want to stay? Arsenal will bank the cash and put Ramsey in his place and next season will be same all over again.
However, enough with the abuse of Wenger! He has given us the best years of football the club has ever seen so no need for all the disrespect.
If he finally sees that his experiment has failed and buys quality in the summer I would still rather him stay on as manager and see more great football. If he decides to persist with the experiment then I do think his time is up.
The invincibles weren’t an experiment – they were big, physical, experienced winners. Unless Wenger recognises that we will remain also-rans.
wrong choice in verminator for captain..he’s just arrived and not ready..the fact is we dont have much choice.. quite sad really.. it says everything about where our club is heading
A&N
That cant be right.
Rooney, Nani & Carrick were £59m right?
Our entire team cost about 58m or so (my calculations)
I think people are realising that Gallas was the best man for the captaincy.
The only reason it was taken away from him was because he shouted at the babies and made them cry.
I agree with u for sure…BUT Wenger wont change Nigel..he’s far too stubborn and his ego has gotten the better of him..
TV should be captain next season he is vocal now captain should be cb imo as they can see all that goes on all over the pitch.
Yeah, Gambon, yeah.
Fletcher too would look a world beater with Gilberto and Viera behind him.
Wenger cant take the captaincy off Cesc he will leave if that happens, its a big insult.
Its a non starter.
Shhhhhhhh keep it quiet…you’ll wake up the babies… lol
Play Sol and give him the arm band, It cant get worse.
A&N in hindsight gallas was right to critic the team especially adenuff but to do so in public is muggy so he is not right personality for captain imo.
gambon: 58M the whole starting XI? Of course not
Keown in as Number 2 and Pat “mini-me” Rice out?
Gambon let cesc keep the band just make the vice captains roll more involved simples
LOL. ACLF site down.
if we are playing a 4-3-3, two of the midfield three should be very comfortable defending. clearly Song is comfortable but we dont have another DM. You need a strong, powerful player who likes to tackle and can run a bit. Denilson is not that man.
then you have 3 ‘strikers’ – two of whom are happy out on the wing, and one creative midfielder. the balance has to be right and I feel Arsenal are too open defensively to be sound offensively. ie we dont have the foundations in order to attack securely.
Why do they put their feet in the mouth:
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/tv-online-sagna-we-have-to-win-at-chelsea
Thanks Geoff.
let’s hope we pull something ‘out of the bag’ for the Chavs and the ‘pool.
Diaby (if fit) to start instead of Denilson. Ramsey if Diaby not fit enough.
Fabianski instead of Al.
Also lets not forget that we have many a player injured and some of teh players playing at teh moment are not anywhere near 100% fit as just coming back from injurt: Clichy, Verminator, Nasri, Rosicky, Bentdner and Walcott as well as Arshavin playing with a bad foot. So not all bad – they need to constantly play with full comitment and desire !!!
Almunia £1.5m
Sagna £7m
Gallas £0
Vermalen £10m
Clichy £0.5m
Song £1m
Cesc £0
Denilson £4m (LOL)
Arshavin £17m
Nasri £12m
Rosicky £6m
£59m, so the same as Nani, Rooney & Carrick (14, 18, 27m)
Gambon, here were the calculations
Here are the United transfer costs: Rooney (27), Carrick (18.6), Nani (13.5) Evra (5.5), Park (4), Rafael (2.5), VanDS (2.5) with Scholes, Brown, Evans and Fletcher a product of the youth academy.
=74.5
Arsenal’s is as follows: Nasri (15.8), Arshavin (15), Gallas (cost a £20m a.cole minus £5m Arsenal received = £15m), Vermaelan (10), Fabregas (cost Van Bronkhort (£8.5m player)), Rosicky (8), Sagna (8), Denilson (3.4), Almunia (2.5), Song (3) and finally Clichy (0.5)
=79.7
the fact that they are saying Cesc cost 8.5m is suspect, but even without that our team costs almost the same as theirs.
I dont care.
I support the club to win things. Not to be outclassed year in, year out.
You know what, I would even have accepted being outclassed if we had played our socks off. Even a team like POrtsmouth or Burnley have a never say die attitude, thats why they have a support base.
But these players dont care. They have a fat paycheck, a comfortable life and football is a good job for them + extras like publicity and modeling.
Definately get rid of Pat Rice, we dont need a little Elton John lookalike yes man on Arsenes right.
I wouldn’t point a finger at Cesc at all. Him, Arshavin, Song and Gallas at least looked like they wanted to do something. We are a team of cake decorators but there is no cake. Wenger loves technically gifted players like Nasri and Vela but you must start from the back and our defenders can’t defend. Every home game I know that the opposition are going to score so I just hope they do it early and that it galvanizes us into a response. I’ve watched Arsenal 1-0 up in the 92nd minute, get a corner and leave just Clichy in our half. It’s just dumb. Speaking of which, Clichy is a whole story in himself and perhaps symptomatic of our problems. Two years ago he looked world-class. Now he looks worse than average.
A&N
Those Calculations are as suspect as Denilson stats
Arse&Nose
The figures for Gallas, Cesc and Nasri are not correct.
Nigel, if people are calling wenger names then that is wrong but I think most people are saying time to go. thats not abuse – its a realisation of the truth.
bnsb, those calculations are from a united fan but the point is that even with the correct calculations our team cost roughly 10m less than Man Utds so we can hardly say they bought their way to success anymore!
please please please wenger!! it wont happen though!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1247670/Arsenal-forced-striker-Loic-Remy-Rennes-Lyon-prepare-table-bids-French-international.html?ITO=1490
All I can say is how much I detest Denilson as a footballer. He lacks any of the qualities that are appealing in an athlete and especially a footballer. In fact, watching him play reminds me of the various people I have tried to convert in to football fans (I was living in America for 6 months recently). . .he is the embodiment of the disappointing boring games that you occasionally watch and think, briefly, ‘I can see why some people find this boring’. He’s completely devoid of any from of spirit, passion or desire. He can’t attack particularly well or defend particularly well (on yesterday’s evidence he can’t defend at all). People go on about his stats, but I would have bloody good stats at an Arsenal player if all I did was play the easiest square ball option and made no effort at any probing dangerous balls. As soon as I saw him on the team sheet I was moaning continuously, and as I watched Rooney run past him like he was racing a 90 year old woman, I was livid.
I was actually in the company of a Tottenham fan during the game yesterday, and the embarrassing manner of the defeat was made depressingly apparent to me by his quiet sympathetic reaction to it all.
Two things would make this all a bit less depressing. . .if I turned on SKy sports news now and they had images of David Villa standing outside Emirates stadium on his phone (Arshavin last year) and a good win against chelsea on the weekend. I would put money on both NOT happening.
bnsb – I don’t care if a new owner takes money out the club just as long as they also invest a majority of profits into the team. All I see at present is a board who continually make great profits but refuse to invest it back into the club.
A new owner will also want success, because the more success you have the more profits will follow. This current lot seem to be happy drifting along making money on transfer & property deals whilst just getting by in the league & not even bothering with the domestic cups.
A&N
Think some of them are wrong. Cesc wasnt under contract so he didnt cost anything.
Lou
Each of the three you mentioned had a chance at least to score and fluffed it. To be fair Manu missed sitters, else it would have been Everton score
Lou – you are right about those four players, I would also add TV to that list, they were the only ones trying to change things yesterday. In fact I dont think I have seen Song involved in so many attacks as he was yesterday.
I know the figures are not 100% correct but they are pretty close and kill the myth that they spend a lot more than us.
Wenger can not use finances as an excuse anymore.
We dont need a new striker – Eduardo and RVP are coming back..it will be like 2 new signings!
Zzzzz…bored now Arsene. As if you would buy David Villa you fkn liar!
Fkn Groundhog day!
1. Close down the scounting network now if they think there is no one out there better than Almunia, Denilson, Clichy and Bendy.
(You could probably pick up 4 fkn players from the MLS in the US who could do a better job!)
2. Why are there no regular English players in the current team that have come up through the ranks in the whole time Wengers been there?
3. Wenger should go at the end of this season before all his great achievements gets tarnished by the last few years.
Gutted
Rob Green – you can rule Remy out 100%. I believe he picked up an ankle injury at the weekend, but even if thats not a problem then the fact that Lyon have 5 days to match any bid for him certainly would be. Lyon had it written into the contract when they sold him & they have already stated that any bid would be futile because Lyon won’t allow it to happen, thats probably why Arsenal were talked about as a loan option.
bnsb. I know. I am just talking about attitude and the feeling I got from watching them on the pitch yesterday. The whole question that looms above all comment today is “Will anything change?” After all, we have been here before.
great post pedro. sums it up for me. one thing. any manager who claims we will win a title with almunia, dennilson and no striker has lost the plot. the look on cescs and arshavins faces at the end of the match tells me they have had enough and they have given up. season over. goodbye cesc and arshavin, probably gallas to and who could blame them
Lou, If Arshavin had passed it twice, we would have been 2 -0 up maybe.
If Cesc had tracked back a little more, we would have covered better. Rooney tracks back, Nani tracks back better than Cesc. (BTW, who lost the ball for the second)
Song should have stayed back to cover and let the forwards do their job… Gallas was charging forward but with Rooney and Nani, he should have done his defensive job first.
Nasri should have protected Clichy more, he left him exposed. Traore is better at positionning than Clichy because he was at Portsmouth and learned from Tony Adams.
What cake football are you talking about. it was rotten cake all over the pitch!!!
I don’t care if a new owner takes money out the club just as long as they also invest a majority of profits into the team.
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A beautiful lady met G B Shaw on his death bed and confessed
” My only regret in life is that I did not have an affair with you and have a child. Imagine our child with Your intellect and my beauty.”
Shaw replied wryly ” Imagine a child with your intellect and my beauty”
Wenger sees a large squad as killing off the youth coming through, however it also provides strength to save burnt out in the second half of the season or to cover injuries. Vitally, it also provides competition. Competition is what drives players on…if Denilson was behind a De Rossi in the Arsenal squad, then he might give more of a shit.
And are we so scared of losing players for nothing that we give early contract renewals and long contracts regardless of quality – remember when players used to “play for a new contract”?
Where’s the apology from the club or from Gazidis to the fans?? When wigan were battered at the spuds their players refunded their travelling fans, can you ever see our pampered lot doing that or the club ever asking them to?
Lou – another question is ‘who takes responsibility for the current situation? AW or the board?’
bnsb – I’m an ex boxer, quotes like that go straight obver my head, I don’t have a clue what the moral of that quote was supposed to mean!!
GMR – I think it is evident from the last few seasons that the board dont give a shit about the fans.
insidealbania
‘who takes responsibility for the current situation? AW or the board?’
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I believe the board should. End of the day Arsene is a paid employee, however well paid he may be.
Albania. Ultimately the board. At least at any other club. But Arsene is mightily powerful and has given the board a great business model. I think they will wet themselves if they think he could leave. The Dein word comes to my mind and I’m reminded what an important cog in the wheel he was. But Fiszman wanted him out after a bust-up some time before he actually went. The Kroenke link was just a smokescreen.
For those who mention Arshavin’s misses I only say that I thought he had a determination about him that was sorely lacking a at least 5 of the other players. That’s all.
I support Arsenal FC. I’ve had enough of supporting some of
the players in our team. Almunia, Denilson, Theo…simply
NOT good enough!
Having said that if we beat the chavs and the bin dippers then
we take 7 points from 4 tough games. Now I’m not a betting man
but if I was, I certanly would not back this team.
ritesh if wenger would have bought a DM your last post would have been obsolete!!!
de ja vu strikes again
Wenger reportedly tried to sign the imposing frontman on loan last week but could return with a cash offer to avoid seeing the player, and Arsenal’s title aspirations, slip through his fingers
On Loan Hahahahahah and yet they want us to beleive that we were trying to sign Villa
GMR
I’m an ex boxer,
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Thank god I live at a safe distance. For record what I quoted is nothing offensive, honest
For those who mention Arshavin’s misses I only say that I thought he had a determination about him that was sorely lacking a at least 5 of the other players. That’s all.
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determination no end product thats all period
Wenger quote when questioned on Dzeko: “They fly to high for us, price wise”.
Wenger last week: “We can buy, even if it’s a 30 million pound player thats needed”
The contradictions that come out from this club just baffle me, but then I suppose thats exactly what they’re designed to do.
Am I the only one?
Interpret it the way you want.
read this somewhere:
Arsenal had a board meeting this thursday and your second statement came after that meeting.
Reggie, you forget we will have Diaby back for Chelsea. He will be like a new signing.
We also have the whizzkid Ramsey, the next Stevie G. If we sign a DM, it would have killed their development.
Truth is the starts of the team need to turn up when the going gets tough…. truth is we have no stars.
When Rooney loses a ball, he runs like a mad dog to get it back. When Shava loses it, he just stops. When Cesc loses it, he gestures like he is watching a toreador show.
bnsb – I was just pointing out that it’s easy to confuse a boxer, I cannot say I’ve ever met one that was really well educated. Thats not to say they don’t exist, I’ve just never met one.
ritesh Diaby and Ramsey are not DMs are they!!
bnsb Yes, that’s correct. Determination is a desirable quality I think. Especially when it is so patently lacking in so many other players. The fact that he could and probably should have passed the ball is not really the point I am making. But hey, I can only talk about the way I saw things and don’t really want to get into a hair-splitting autopsy today.
Thanks everyone. Feel bit cheered up. Who knows we may beat Chelsea and thump Pool
Hope to make up some lost sleep tonight.
What pisses me off is how we turn transfer windows, and especially transfer dead line day into a drama, when it should not be at all. We behave like beggars, and then produce financial documents and boast about being one of the richest clubs in Europe and how the new stadium is bringing in the money etc etc
What a joke. I just want to know if Hill Wood, Fizman et al buy their food from Lidl.
Wenger knows all about the clubs finances, I’m sure he knew whether 30 million was available before last thursday. On the other hand it wouldn’t surprise me either if the board told him whats available a few days before the window closed so it didn’t give Gazidis time spend it.
Good post as always…
Here we are again mourning over our team who lack heart and a manager who believes aluminia is a top keeper. Im quite worried about this summer: Fabregas, arshavin and gallas could leave and who can blame them. I still cant believe gallas hasnt been offered a new contract but yet wenger was fretting over losing silvestre! Im on News now hoping we might make a quick deal before 5PM but that looks highly unlikely. The best we can do is lift ourselves up AGAIN and hopefully get the points on sunday as ‘Karma’ still needs to pay a visit to john terry.
Neither are Rooney and Nani. But I am amazed by their defensive duties and their work ethic.
Forget about matching defensive capabilities of Fletcher, Carrick or Scholes.
I was just pointing out that it’s easy to confuse a boxer, I cannot say I’ve ever met one that was really well educated. Thats not to say they don’t exist, I’ve just never met one
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Got a mirror at home?
Forget about matching defensive capabilities of Fletcher, Carrick or Scholes.
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they kick and harrasss and get away with it. Fact.
But not an excuse for us.
Anyone see the way Fergie said “i hope Arsenal batter them” , he was taking the piss. You could tell on his face he didnt for one minute believe it.
Alright been some while i wrote any comment on arsenal blogs. First off the performance was aweful and they “humilated” us (yes im a fuckin arsenal fan!) just like Chelsea did and then we ran into a good form and everyone was up for it and said we could win the title (I believed too), not anymore. It’s the same old story, MU beating our good run and make our team look like boys and we end up screwing another season up. Yes Arsenal was playing like boys!
Hate how much you want but Evra was right saying it last season. 1st goal was wonderful skill from nani and beat 3 defenders and chip an easy ball but Almunia reacted late and put the ball into his own net. It was PURELY poor goalkeeping, you can see the reply and he reacted late. A schoolboy football mistake. 2nd goal was a simple quick run from the middle by the sherk and denilson was his boy here. He kept running without any intent to close down any incoming players. WTF?!
I switched off the tv just after that and start thinking, it’s all repeating again and again every season. After conciding the first goal Arsenal normally go on wildly and lose another goal whenever they play MU and wenger talks about attitude, mature and stupid lies about his players! 70% of them have no guts and heart! If I was a good footballer and play for a great team like Arsenal I’ll make sure I give 100% in every game and don’t do silly mistakes like that!
I hate to say this but the team and manager is not title winner material. Only cesc, song, gallas, verminator, arshavin and nasri are the good ones. The rest are average and a few are below average (denilson and almunia in particular!). Where are the “we trust in wenger guys?”. Some might say it’s just a game but to be honest losing at that margin to your title competitator and arch rival is not 1 game, it’s a massive blow and I guess it’s 6 years without a single trophy. If i was a Hull fan I wouldn’t care but this is Arsenal
and the fans n club don’t deserve this shit wenger is putting up each year. He trust his players but he has more pride and ego for his phylosopies.
Keep it up wenger, it’s all down to him and his decisions. This will go on and only top 4 is the club’s concern. Highest wages and ticket prices and we just manage to finish 4th each season and with a few more tough games to go we might end up fighting for 4th position yet AGAIN this season! Hopes…that’s all this manager can give us.
I had it enough, for me things will get onto track if :
1. Wenger get the F.off and get a new manager in place of him. I don’t care anyone as long as he have the experience and are not afraid of spending!
2. Wenger changes his FAILED experiments and phylosopies and start buying mens not boys anymore!
I don’t know about you guys but for me this will be the start of downfall for this season like many other previous seasons and we’ll lose cesc and arshavin. Steps in ramsey (not ready) and some unknown kid wenger will buy. The club loves him because he will save them money and finish top 4. I love Arsenal as much as any of you do and
I have been watching them since i know what football was. Wenger is just living his past glories that he didn’t built himself alone, it as “leftovers” and he worked for a few years on them (players). That’s all.
Utterly dissapointed Gooner!
Whats the point..
We’ve never beaten the chavs when drogba plays… I doubt we’ll get anything at the bridge.
@arse&nose
laughing as he said it too and he also said “arsenal are out of it now”
Heads he wins, tails we loose?
bsnb. The subtlety of your last post eluded me I’m afraid. But yes, I do have a mirror at home. And funnily enough I do know a well educated boxer. In fact he rang me last night for a chat about the game.
…that hurt
Hahahaha Online gooner quote had me in stiches
Still, it’s not all bad news. An open top bus parade is scheduled for the end of May in which the manager and directors will be displaying their profit and loss accounts between the stadium and Islington Town Hall.
Whats the point..
We’ve never beaten the chavs when drogba plays… I doubt we’ll get anything at the bridge.
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Manu did not beat a top four team for six games until…
Rob, I was hoping he would laugh so much he died of a heart attack the old red faced cunt. It was a total and utter humiliation and he rubbed salt into the wounds.
how funny!!
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_5902700,00.html
the one thing that concerned about this game there was no fight in this team,i may be wroung but think wenger sees diaby as dm player and i think he can play there it was always going difficult do major business in jan particualy a top striker,aa risicky nasri fab with bretna thoe is more than enough to score goals but only if the put effort in
Lou
GMR is too articulate to be a boxer, it was a complement.
And this one but swap carnal for anal
The transfer deadline is at 5pm today. Maybe the club have bought someone while I have been avoiding the news. Maybe David Villa and Luigi Buffon will be unveiled at a shocked press conference this afternoon. Maybe I will enjoy a night of carnal hedonism with Halle Berry and Jessica Alba. Maybe Arsenal will win something this season. All within the realms of scientific possibility. Not very likely though.
I was hoping a slice of pizza would of landed on his face…the cunt…that really stung watching that.
@rob green
they should hang that up in the dressing room remind him not to open his mouth before the big games
I’m afraid he earned the right to laugh: we didn’t.
Chippy
Since when did hallucination come “within reals of scientific possibility”
This season will be wenger’s last..
You think so BBK?
Sky have got cameras at most of the clubs today except arsenal!!
Can only hope so BBK.
I think we should all email the club asking whats going wrong and pointing out that we aint happy.
They would have to take notice if the fans start complaining, as they would be terrified of falling attendances.
bnsb,
Im sure with our Mental Spirit and belief and not to mention quality we will have the league wrapped up in April just in time to judge our leader in May lol
I think he will have one more season after this as his contract runs out next year and i dont think the board will pay him off.
I remember him saying in an interview that we will see if his experiment in 2011.
lack of activity in the transfer market: negligence
‘I will sign 2-3 top, top players’: misrepresentation
‘like a new signing’: absolute bollocks…
you know what, i was actually thinking the same thing@gambon
reggie 57 Says:
February 1, 2010 at 12:18
You think so BBK? yes i do reggie
it will be his last if he walks or the fans turn on him@BBK
I’m Sick to Death of feeling like this against the Mancs….!!! I was also at the Champions League “semi-final”?!?!? More like a walk in the park for Rooney, Ronaldo and the rest of the c@#ts!! We were complaining about people walking out early….Adebayor being crap…blaming our injuries…etc, etc…BLAH BLAH BLAH…!!! WENGER…PLEASE!!! PLEASE don’t let us go through that again…PLEASE!! I can still hear those f@#$%ng manc supporters laughing and revelling at how shit we were and laughing all the way back to Mancunia!!! PLEASE ARSENE…NOT AGAIN…!!! Sort it the F@#k out…!!!!
theres too many AKB’s. did anyone see that banner during the game “keep the faith” or something like that
After Arsenal’s defeat to Manchester United yesterday, cheeky Chelsea fans have set-up a Facebook event marking a funeral for the Gunners’ title ambitions. Unsurprisingly, the wake is to be held at Stamford Bridge next Sunday when the two sides meet.
Optimistic Gooners might suggest that the funeral plans should be put on hold until next week’s final whistle. So are their title hopes already dead or still on a life support machine?
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wot a bunch or rim bandits
opps … wot a bunch of rim bandits
wenger’s peak was the 03-04 side,since then he has failed to build up again,the a.g.m where he got attacked did not go down to well with him,after this season is done i think he will get even more abuse,which then i think he will call it a day…
did anyone see that banner 2010 withe the league next to it,how embarrising
We were well beaten yesterday and it was gutting.
The team threw caution to the wind and we had something like a 1-9 formation for the 2nd and 3rd goals. Which is completely ridiculous against a team of Manchester United’s calibre, especially with their ability to counter attack. Last year they did this in the champions league as you know, and we do not appear to have heeded the warning.
The team was unbalanced and was not counter intuitive. We played right into their hands, and were not versatile enough to change the shape and adapt to their tactics.
With respect to individual players, even as an AKB, one has to ask big questions about the performances of Denilson, Clichy and Almunia. These 3 were particularly disappointing. Frankly, I would question the futures of all 3. I believe that Sczenzny will be accelerated as a new goalkeeper, Kieran Gibbs will eventually supersede Clichy and Denilson will be looking over his shoulder now to the likes of Merida, Ramsey, Eastmond and JET. Making fatal mistakes in the middle of the field and having no recovery pace is just not good enough as a top line defensive midfielder.
With respect to the future, we can do a lot better than this. Whether or not we get a striker, we need a run of games. Bendtner, Walcott, even Nasri have had so few games this season. If VP comes back in March then I think we can go on a run.
At least Big Phil played in a winning team at the weekend, plus a team that managed to keep a clean sheet. Moving to Everton may have done his world cup chances a lot of good.
Is it too early to send Guus (Hiddink) an e mail asking if he fancies the job?
We done okay today but we were terrible on the transitions [when we lost the ball, plus over-committing when we still had time], Denilson still cant do basic like track runners, however Almunia needs to communicate better with his teammates that Rooney was coming plus his footwork was still poor for the 1st goal.
Porto coach will be licking his lips because Porto’s biggest weapon is on the counter. Lets hope Denilson isnt fit for both legs
http://arsenalcolumn.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/united-show-the-best-form-of-attack-is-to-counter/
I saw that on MOTD 2 BBK – a steward was shown telling the AKB’s to take it down and go home.
akb, do you honestly believe that he knows?
I will never forget Wengers interview at WHL in 2004 after we’d won the PL, he went on about strengthening, saying “our rivals will come back strong, we need to get stronger”
He then went and destroyed the club, and we have never recovered. I honestly wonder if he’s just gone mental, cos he never used to think technical, pretty passing midgets could win anything.
willy wenger and the umpa lumpas
In a way im glad we lost yesterday.
It means we dont have the expectation anymore that this team is anything more than a top 6 side thats had a lucky run of fixtures.
Every time this team are tested they crumble shockingly. Every time.
We got the result at Liverpool but were fucking shite all match. City we got murdered. Chelsea likelwise. United too.
Theres one big pattern there.
We’re just not a top side. Nowhere near.
Denilson has had two of the worst performances ive ever seen back to back against Villa and United. I didnt think it humanly possible to put in a performance worse than he did at Villa. But he managed it.
I just dont know what the boss see’s in him. Im sorry to say this, but I booed him off yesterday and will continue to boo him every time he plays for arsenal. Its the only way I can get my feelings know to the club i pay 1500 a year to watch.
I hope more fans join me in booing Denilson and Almunia. Its just not good enough any more.
I will never forget when wenger sold paddy and said “trust us”.
We havent won anything since…
Tom you lost me on the im glad we lost
akb – ”If VP comes back in March then I think we can go on a run”
i am glad you think we can go on a run for the last two months of the season!! i feel a lot better now
Im not “Glad” we lost, but in a way, im pleased our expectations have come down.
Thats what im saying.
tom
glad we lost!?
you sound like that portsmouth player who wished his team to lose!
viera going was good business not replacing him was the fuck up.
All this talk about wenger should have stopped him going ity he never passed his medical and is still not fit to train let alone start
Also, anyone who thinks Van Persie will make a difference, well im sorry, but is he playing at Left Back, in goal and in central midfield as well as up front?
Have a word with yourselves, we are at least 4 players away from doing anything, in any competition
akb you didnt answer my question…
Do you honestly believe wenger still knows?
gooday gunners, woeful result sick as a small hospital after it but why do we build ourselves up to be let down I don’t know.
I think we need more defensive stability and I think that could come by playing Gallas LB and Campbell centrehalf.
Denilson I never want to se again, play Eastmond,Ramsey,Diaby, even Pat Rice ahead of him.
Almunia is woeful no wonder our defence is scared shitless with that antichrist behind them, get him out try Chesny,Fabianski or sign Begovic/James I dont care just dont play that ass again.
another blog has a good idea. play a reserve side next week at chelsea. we are going to get thumped anyway with dennilson , almunia , nasri, clichy in our team. we may as well get thumped with reserves giving our so called first team a hard earned rest, poor dears ,to many bullies and hard matches. then we can consentrate on the big battle against liverpool for 4th place because that is what this team will be playing for and will struggle to get . title contenders my ass
Silly comment like this don’t help!!
”I hope more fans join me in booing Denilson and Almunia. Its just not good enough any more.”
yeah lets boo them that will help!! first we boo adebayor, then song then diaby then bendtner and now its denilson and Almunia!!
Spot on Nick about Vieira
Perhaps saying im Glad was a mistake. I mean it may help us fans to realise we are a top 6 team, not a title challenging team.
That way, when we lose against the top sides, its more easy to swallow.
Of course im never glad we lose. Im fucking destroyed for days.
But im getting to the point where I dont really care anymore with this arsenal team. Every time i see denilson on the team sheet i think of walking out of the stadium and back home
sign joe hart, that’ll fix our GK problem for the next 10 years. in fact swap him with city for denilson, they seem to like doing bad deals for our shit players
For starters what wenger should do today is put all the names of the other premiership GKs in a hat and whatever one he pulls out he should buy cos he’s guaranteed to be better than we have!
HT yesterday was a joke in the stadium. I thought everyone would be pissed off but we were all beyond that. We were just laughing at our own team/club it was so pathetic.
LAUGHING AT OUR OWN TEAM IN THE STADIUM AT HALF TIME AGAINST MAN U.
My, how far we’ve come in 6 years!
Still, nice bank balance!
Pedro,
I really dont know how you keep your cool and write such a balance post. I was so angry yesterday…….
IMO this post hits the nail on the head without going over board. Agree everything you have written (except the TV header haha)
So fcuked off……i want AW to stay but only if he starts signing players to build a team that can compete right til the end and not fade away months before the end !! If no signings then explain why and dont use the following fcuking excuses;
1) Can not find decent tallent
2) dont want to kill youth
3) we nearly signed etc etc
Tom when you shell out 1500 sovs for a season ticket you are allowed to boo any player you want!!!
As Nick said selling players (within reason) isnt the problem. Decimating the squad yearly can be, and not replacing with quality is pathetic.
We should have replaced the following players as such;
Vieira – Yaya
Pires – Ribery
Henry – Torres
Lehmann – Given
Does anyone honestly think we wouldnt be awesome with that kind of line up.
Wenger has gone from being the king of the transfer market to the laughing stock of it.
tom . dont boo the players. boo the manager. hes the one that puts dennilson and co on the teamsheet. its not their fault they are shite
Guys, AKB has come on despite the loss, that should be applauded.
Play nicely.
Not even a hint of a signing so far
Booing players?
That would be counter productive in the extreme…
When the 4th Official held up number 15 yesterday, I swear that got the biggest cheer of the day from the home fans. 55,000 people can’t be wrong.
And don’t blame the fans for that. We pay the most money so we want the best. Its not a stretch.
Don’t even blame the player, I’m sure he’s doing his best. Its just that thats way short!!!!
Blame the man that puts him on the pitch every week.
Get a fucking grip!
Could not be bothered coming on yesterday; I’m pretty sure there was blood on the dancefloor!
Such a poor showing, defensively we were naive with at least 4 players guilty for the first goal and 3 for the 2nd. Worryingly Clichy was poor in all 3 goals! Denilson needs to be dropped (preferably from the nearest bridge in a sack full of bricks!) Nasri is too lightweight at present and our play is too predictable without a big man up front or RvP’s skills.
AW has to take the blame for this situation, as much as we have had bad luck with injuries etc, someone with his ‘amazing’ scouting network should have been able to find a couple of players to add to the squad/team, preferably who have stubble and not peach fuzz!
rob green
If thats the only way the fans can tell Wenger enough is enough then that will have to be it.
We shouldnt have to boo them cos AW should realise they arent anywhere near the Arsenal standard & drop/sell them. If he wont we have to make the decision for him.
Rob Green, its all very well sitting there slating me thinking it wont help.
Do you think Denilson playing is helping this team?
I want the club to know my views on why he’s paid circa 40k a week and why he’s on a long contract.
I want to know why he is played consistently above other players
I want to know why a player we paid £5m for last year and is considered a great talent, Ramsay, is left on the bench while i watch Denilson duck challenges, ignore runners.
That isnt the first goal that is directly his fault. Ive watched him for at least 18 months ambling back as players stream past him. The pissing REFEREE overtook him yesterday on the 3rd goal after HE HAD LOST THE FUCKING BALL.
Im gonna boo him, and loudly. Every time he plays and every time he touches the ball. And i dont give a fuck what AKBs say about it either.
oh yeah !!
forgot to add……Man City are 9 points behind with 2 games in hand !!
If they win their next 3 games and we lose vs Chavski they go 1 point in front !!
And Spurs will only be 4 points behind !!
to think we could of had ribery for cheap and yaya trained with us. Given was there for the taking and as for torres I dont think we could afford him at the time@gambon
BBK
It’s dejavu of dejavu of dejavu etc.
the booing of eboue certainly gave him a kick up the arse that was much needed
Maqitlarge is was a joke wasnt it!!
I had all around me people laughing as the third went in, ive never ever seen the crowd so dejected as laughing at our own players.
Really sad point that for me. A turning point that could prove telling.
wardo… surely if they’re 9 points behind and win 3 games without us getting a point they’d be level on points with us?
Tom… sounds like everyone had given up… cant blame them!
Wheres A im looking forward to his Analysis
Only hope is to have Nik beside Arshavin and hope he gets the knock downs.
We need to keep it solid and unspectular against Chelski, its hard to look the far ahead but I would play if available
___________Fabianski
Sagna____Campbell__Verm__Gallas
___________Song__Diaby
_____________Cesc
Rosicky_______Nik____AA
Let the back four stay in defence and let the attackers attack simple. If Campbell and Verm goes forward for corners then Rosicky,Sagna,Gallas and Song remain in our half.
Wardo, are you an accountant for Arsenal? lol
Tom I dont know i remember the crowd in dear old highbury laughing at Ceaser, Hillier,Jensen and so forth its not that new
Lehmann – Given
Does anyone honestly think we wouldnt be awesome with that kind of line up.
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@ Gambon, yes Given is a great shot stopper however he never comes for crosses unless its really really obvious & the ball has been floated towards his area. Plus he is short & just look how many headed goals [from 6 yard box] that Toons & City concede
tom you dont even go mate so shhh!!
Im so pissed im gonna take my arsenal tax disc holder outa my car!! that will show em
according to reggie you can boo the players if you can afford the 1500 quid season ticket. if you cant afford it shot up you peasant
i am afraid i am not boat as alot fans wenger should go,wenger does his business in very quiet way and i have no dought he been looking strenthen the squad but if look at current market 1 there is that many top players and most teams wiull not be willing sell in jan particualy in a striker in jan and i no dought has been loooking a striker but because he has not shouting about from roof tops the assumtion is that he is does not spend the money.another thing is assumtion this team cannot handle without being rvp which far from the case yes they could with phsical prresence but i feel the likes aa nasri risicky edwardo diaby etc put in the performances they have more than enough open up defences and score and they have been doing since the chelsea game.in my opinion all round this squad is pretty strong but certain players like delinson almunia are not good enough to start anyway i would sell them i would delinson just squad player and almunia is good backup keeper
Chippy
A was on last night. He was pretty down about it, no trying to make out things were great, and obviously calling for Almunias head.
At the end of the day unless things change we face battling just for CL football every year, no one can be content with that every season.
THE BIGGEST TRANSFER AT THE EMIRATES TODAY WILL BE A COUPLE OF MILLIION QUID FROM ONE BANK TO ANOTHER.
Rocky, dont even worry about it pal.
Firstly, Bendtner is shite. He has been dogshit all season. He cant make the difference against the lower league teams. Just forget Chelsea altogether.
Next game is a nailed on loss. No chance.
Liverpool at home aswell i fear we will lose, as its a pressure game, and we all know how good we are under pressure.
Like ive said, we arent top 3. We are top 6. The table is OK right now. In 10 days after we play Chelsea and Liverpool we could very easily be in 5th or 6th place.
Im hoping we get 1 point from the next 2 games, but im not confident in the slightest.
Its sad to say, but we are just an average team nowadays, and Tottenham really are as good as us.
Well, this would be interesting.. and a darn site better than what we have, of course, if it were true:
From Bean in Kent, via text to 81111: “This is the truth, you must publish. Arsene Wenger, despite ruling himself out of transfer deadline day, may swoop for Thomas Sorensen should Stoke sign Asmir Begovic.”
On the BBC’s website transfer deadline day thingy…
I kinda feel for ALmunia and Denilson.
Fat Frank is gonna have em for dessert
Suppergunner
Well any keeper wouldve done. Im not a £500k pa Arsenal scout. Wenger has the biggest network in the game, if they cant find a better keeper than Almunia then why are they still employed by the club.
From Bean in Kent, via text to 81111: “This is the truth, you must publish. Arsene Wenger, despite ruling himself out of transfer deadline day, may swoop for Thomas Sorensen should Stoke sign Asmir Begovic.”
from that bbc transfer thing.
No Rob Green, ive never been mate. Not even once.
nice try!
Pretty sure Bean in kent is just a frustrated Arsenal fan. He doesnt have a clue.
Can you imagine the belting they would of got fron Henry had he been playing in that game.
What im saying is anyone who pays 1500 quid for a season ticket has got a right to display there displeasure any way they fucking want to? wether its booing the players/manager fuckin anyone …..
Thank fuck essien is injured.Him against denilson would be one hilarious battle
Was anyone really suprised though? Yesterday morning I was dreading this. Wenger plays Denilson and Almunia for that reason alone he should retire. The look on TV’s face when they scored the first goal said it all.
Pah, Sorensen?
How about a midfielder that can fucking injure denilson so i dont ever have to see his name on the back of an arsenal shirt ever again.
Yes – I am wishing injury on the man.
Hey Arsenal tom…
Great minds..
or is it fools..;-)
Wonder whats gonna happen when Barca bid for Cesc in July?
He’s gonna want to be off.
I think most of us on here want a change, I think a am right in thinking that we would prefer AW to do this change, but if he is not willing to do it then someone else should. We are Arsenal and we cant go on dry runs like this, and before anyone comes and says how would I feel if I was a Charlton fan etc, well I am not, and Arsenal is THE ARSENAL and we have certain expectations which in the last few years are not being met.
@leon
ok i understand he doesnt shout about his transfer dealings but why mention it when it is too late(villa & chamak) I just feel he patronising us. He did the same with benzema. He said he didnt know lyon wanted to sell him after he went to madrid!? This is a man who has connections in france and he didnt know lyon wanted to sell…(shaking my head as i write!?)
Tom… maybe when diabys fit he can get back to what he does best and put him out for 3 months.
Reggie – finally some bleeding sense.
I’m told by the stewards not to swear or stand up, at least i cant be ejected for booing!!!
So i will. And loudly too.
Denilson fucking OUT.
Gambon,
If thats the case we are trully fucked
Reggies right Fuck em they treat you as consumers nowadays not fans so start acting like it, Bollocks if the poor souls dont like it im sorry with what they charge nowadays if you cannot show your displeasure at a player that is clearly not busting a bollock youve every right in my book to give the cunt grief ! It worked with Eboue
alfie… definitely great minds mate!!
Any luck A-Tom.
I never ever want to see him play for us ever again. Villa was too far, and against United he proved just how bad he brings the team down.
A terrible, terrible footballer.
Go to wikipedia and search for denilson,
The first paragragh sums him up perfectly
It worked with Eboue Chippy, true.
I dont care what so called fans tell me. Everyone i speak to in the stadium agrees with me, so it must just be the telly boys that get offended by it.
Ive never boo’d an Arsenal player until yesterday, and it felt good to finally show the team and management what we really think. That being that we are disgusted by them.
even if we buy a striker today we still need a tall defender, goalkeeper and midfielder..hopefully against chelsea he’ll tell gallas, vermaelen and song/sagna to stay back every time we attack, so when chelsea counter-attack we at least have some players back who can actually tackle
Lol, that Wiki editing is class.
On a serious not hopefully it gets back to Arsene, he is so out of touch that this might be the way to get the message across.
tom.
yeah and its a shame, when he first started playing for us i thought he looked decent, he was actually pretty decent during his first year or 2!
Didnt boo Denilson off, he got jeered and slow clapped off in my section.
Probably ‘cos where I sit we dont pay 1,500 for an ST!
“his mum told him he’d be a great footballer and make her and his dad very happy”
yeah by giving them half his 40k a week he robs of the fucking arsenal probably
Gambon he loves selling at silly prices but will not sign them.
Example of this is ronaldo to utd said the extra 3mill or so was too much utd win shit loads of trophys so does player then seel him for world record fee.
Signes denilson for price reported as fee utd paid for ronaldo
Then we have smalling looks to be natural defender athletic next big thing we lose him again to utd with out much fuss is there a lesson to be had.
If we need the player the player wants to come and can do the job we need who cares if you have to pay an extra 3mill just playing for us adds 4mill straight away and the market has kept going up
Arsenal Tom……8 points behind.
Typo prob cause I got p155ed yesterday……
Is it Possible for us to win the league without winning against chelsea,Manutd .. possible…thats how we got to level points after being 11 pts behind..
is it possible to do it again, as long as Diaby plays in place of Denilson,and we outscore our opponents,it is possible..
I hope so..
Odub, After reading your comments last night i thought you may have tried to find and kill half the side
Tom, Thats the problem nowadays you cannot show your displeasure any other way as the players are so hidden from reality they think all is wonderfull it dosent help when you have an AGM and serious qustions are asked rightly and the chairman then comes out with ridiculas statements saying the people that asked them questions are not real Fans What the Fuck !!
@Tom
im 50/50 about booing our own, but it seems like its the only way to get our message heard. Is there any chance you could put a banner up saying “aluminia out”
wardo… drinking to forget? been there mate!
sabeel… its possible just not very likely mate
rob how do know he did not david villa ect and for unless i see wenger makes such statemenyt want believe that at all i have no dought wenger has looking a player but huge problem is alot clubs will want 30 mill plus top top striker plus 100k a week,but take a look at around the other big clubs how many them are doing major business know one.it was always going very difficult to get a striker in jan,i dont think that many signings are needed i think players we have desides delinson and aluminia have more than good enough but they have put in the performances
Arsenal Tom…..yep. I’m in the dog house bigtime for some of my antics !!!
I just want to forget this weekend !!
NICK WELL SAID MATE. I JUST WISH WENGER READ LE GROVE.
leon, if you believe for a second we seriously though about going for david villa your bonkers mate!
he ruled out gignac at 13m but wanted villa for 30m odd?
Arsenal tom
i curse myself,that i should have been an animal instead of human, because we humans like to be optimistic even at tuf times,and later our feelings get destroyed again..
like we were destroyed after chelsea game,then got hopeful by equalling points at top,and then BACK to get feeling like destroyed after manutd game
thats why i sometimes hate myself to be human,as i have to go thru these feelings,i dont wether i am wrong abt hating myself or not though..
i dont *know wether i am wrong abt hating myself to be human or not though.
it doesnt matter, right now we need a striker. he says they dont want to sell but why not test their resolve. throw in a cheeky bid of 20 mill and see what happens. Dont tell us after that we was looking at this player etc
@leon
AT, he ruled Gignac out at £20mill… fair shout I say.
wenger should be the one getting boos and jeers. he plays them
Leon, See the hammering we took from Chelsea + Man Uniteds B side to tell you all you need to know about our squad, Id say its pretty obvious we are more in need of signings than they are
CHIPPY,
Didnt realise how those comments looked last night mate, just read again!!
pedro, it still shouldnt have been out of our price range, if ruled him out for value for money reasons then ok, but as just being ‘too expensive’ thats nonsense
their team didnt have vidic or ferdinand and could only score from a deflected shot…or first shot on target was after 50 odd minutes@leon
On another note it will be exactly the same as last season in the summer after the Chelsea and Liverpool games, weve got a fairly easy run in and wont drop to many points and you can see it Now, No we dont need to spend we had the best finish of any team in the top half last season and that shows my team are getting older and stronger and showing the required spirit and Mental strentgh Blah Fucking Blah
Man U rested Giggs and Valencia, had no Rio or Vidic, played with one up front and had an asthmatic 35 year old in midfield!!
AT, I wouldn’t have been happy with Gignac for £20mill… he’s not worth it in my opinion.
Odub, Yes mate seemed pretty depressed i was quite glad i see a posting from you today was hoping you hadnt jumped of a bridge lol
pedro, he was just an example cos i though he was quoted the cheapest out of everyone linked.
my point was that talking about villa is ridiculous when we ruled ourselves out of a signing for 10m cheaper already
Pedro
Pandev was available for free,he is playing well for Milan,Did we even try for him or is he just NOT good enough..
We’ll never think any player is worth £20m. We as in AFC and our manager of course.
i support the militant treatment. enough is enough… wenger has had his say and the fans need to make their voices heard…Booes to that scumbag denilson, almunia,wenger, pat rice, peter hill-wood, and the rest of the board.
If the mancs after 3 straight titles can go after the yanks then wat should we do after a 5 year drought..
Believe me if we go militant, kronke will take notice and something will happen.
I think the only way to get our message across is for all season ticket holders to stage a mass boycott at a game. Maybe then the board and Wenger might sit up and take notice that fans are not going to come watch a game with so many avg players. It might not hurt the boards bank balance , but it would be a clear indication that if they cant be arsed to put a title challenging side out, why should we make the effort to go cheer the team on.
I haven’t had time to read all the comments ,but there are a good number I would agree with.I have watched Arsenal for an awfukky long time and have seen them play mainly away this year in Carling Cup and Premier matches,
One thing that really stands out is that we lack a collective will and spirit at times and can be terribly complacent as if turning up and passing sweetly is enough
At the moment we are short of players who are important in the three obvious positions,as well as having tactical frailties.
Almunia is ok but thera are better keepers in poorer teams well below us.Fabianski is a liability and having seen him recently at Stoke I don’t want him to put the keepers shirt on again.
Clichy seems to have forgoten how to defend and where the rest of the defence is, ditto Sagna,who at one tiime was rock solid.Traore is woeful and leavus us horribly exposed (Stoke again )
We should use Adams and Keown’s experience and get us to defend as a unit,drill it in that this is a base to work from.
Song is the hope out of Wenger’s current crop along with Fabregas of course,but they need support and players who will run and harry and get the ball back…….Rosicky, Nasri, Denilson even Ramsey,haven’t seen it.Diaby is still not there.
No RVP,Eddy out of form ,no confidence,Vela (too lightweight)Bendtner a championship player at best.We are short of….Goalkeeper, fullback cover, no frills midfielder with grit and a scary sriker/goalscorer.Not short of money, so do something soon Arsene,we love the club as much if not more than you do
going lunch…
a double shot should ease the mood
Apparently Valencia didnt think 2 packs of jelly babies and a club level ticket to Brazil v Sweden at the Emirates was a big enough offer for Villa, What made it worse was the fact if we would have thrown a curly wurly into the deal they would have accepted but unfoutunatley that surpassed Wengers valuation of him
LOL@chippy
Sabeel Pandev was only on a free transfer because he wanted to join Inter, that’s why he got his transfer cancelled. There was absolutely no chance of us getting him. Luca Toni was the same in that he would only have gone back to Italy so no chance for us.
With the exception of Denilson and Almunia, the team we put out should have been good enough to beat Man U. I’m really gutted as we had a chance to stake a cliam on the title. I still don’t think Wenger should go though – no point throwing the baby out with the bath water!
CHIPPY,
I sat on a train home with other goons, all just sat there, didnt exchange any words, sporadically looking at each other and shaking our heads.
Wasnt a nice feeling at all.
Hope the players felt the same way, and come out wounded on Sunday….wouldnt put money on it.
Afternoon all,
After watching yesterday’s game, a few questions were on my mind;
1. What was Arshavin thinking? I mean, he could’ve put us 3-0 up in the first 20 mins hadn’t he acted so selfishly. What was his logic behind trying to curl it rather than pass it to Cesc or Nasri?
2. What was Almunia trying to do? If you look at the replay, you’ll see that Sagna got behind him in time to cover him but!!!
3. Denilson???
4. Whenever we get a corner, both Gallas & Verm are in the oppo box to score goals. Why??? They’re CBs and their job is to stay on or nearby the half way line not in the oppo box. I would blame both of them for those two counter attacks instead of any other players. Why can’t they stay where they’re supposed to?
Lack of strikers/midfielders didn’t cost us the game, it was a bit of selfishness (Arsh) and a number of serious individual errors. Both teams had very few shots on target. It wasn’t ManU who battered us, it was us who gifted them the game with those dreadful errors…
A
thanks for info,
but i am afraid,u have to accept too,that wenger duped u and us all into believing he is gonna get some striker..
stunners
when arshavin was showing his selfish nature,i was getting this sixth sense,that arshavin is setting a WRONG tone to the game,which will lead to our loss…and those vibes proved right
By sending out a team of Munchkins against United, Wenger showed he had absorbed none of the lessons every child learns from watching The Wizard of Oz .
LOL
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/blogs/laptop-martin-lipton/Are-Arsenal-actually-moving-forward-Sunday-s-defeat-by-Man-United-would-suggest-not-and-it-is-clear-they-are-nowhere-near-good-enough-to-be-champions-Martin-Lipton-s-big-lunchtime-read-article308503.html
Agree totally with all that Stunners, good post.
With their third goal Vermy was back, but was attracted to the ball when Rooney got it, very poor mistake which ultimately cost us the goal imo.
Sabeel no I wouldn’t say he “duped us”, I’m very surprised someone didn’t come in, and I’d be shocked if it was because Wenger didn’t bother trying to get someone in.
chippy for both games you have admitt arsenal have played alot better than that itwas more down bad performnces than haviong weak squad the only few things change in this yes a new keeper in midfield a bid beasts and may be striker,but evon saying that the likes of risicky nasri aa edwardo diaby are more than good enough and the likes of merida gibbs ramsey etc pretty good players comming through,its about upping there performaces and work rate
How much is Denilson worth? Can’t we fans raise the money to sign him? and then ship him off to Sp*rs for free
Odub,
I said in an earlier post mate im afraid half that side wont give a shit thats half the problem they dont realise its a Fucking privlidge to wear that shirt they earn there money and are told non stop from their boss they are great when in fact they are far from it.
The worst thing is thats the poorest United side for 10+years !!
i knew from the start nasri was useless , he can only pass and score, too lazy no defending no covering, i’m sorry but Arsenal is not a place for these kind of players to develop (denilson,nasri)
Arsenal players don’t understand that they must defend when they lose the ball ?
Leon, Leave of Man we were given proper hidings it was as someone else put it Amateurs against Professionals !
A
u r right in saying,there is diff in duping us and not trying to get,BUT
BUT,again,dont u think,wenger trying to get a MUCH NEEDED player,to help us in this title run, AT a price that he wants,is almost like duping us in believing that he will get a striker even if he costs 30million…
i say this becos,the ball is in wengers court,”HE”,and not market is the one who decides wether a player is worth 30 million or not…
its like u having all card on ur side,and playing a game with fans..
Time is running out. Transfer window closes in a few hours but don’t hold ur breath
I just think the tactics were all wrong, at the start it looked like we were going to dominate, Arshavin rinsed Brown and Rafael on several occassions so everyone started to push up more and lose the solid base needed to control the game.
There is nothing wrong with CBs coming up for corners, but its no good if we cant deliver a decent ball in the box. Cesc is brilliant passer but cant even find the head of team mate and place it just out of reach of the keeper. Its crazy
will catch u guys from..laterzzz…
chippy thst your opinion i just think the arsenal players showd up and before the game started i thought it 50-50,and if you call gallas verm aa risicky sagna nasri song etc amatures thats your opinion i dont agree
Hello arsenal fan please don’t swear me. I sorry for bad play. I play very well against chelsea . We are mans now and learn from lesson.
My 8 year old just came home early from school and is in tears, WHY ? Because of all the piss taking.
I’ve explained that there has to be winners and losers etc etc but i’d like Wenger, Denilson, Almunia….. Fuck it the whole squad…..to see what he’s like and to see what it means to true fans.
I wonder how there are all feeling ??
No Leon thats Facts we have been Hammered at home by United twice and Chelsea twice in all my years of going ive never seen an Arsenal side with less fight or Tactical awareness
Absolutely fucking shite im sure zak
Why i get moderate. Please tell all my fans im sorry for this loss.
Interesting comment by Red Nose was when asked about Rooneys contract he said ‘I dont get involved with that’.
Now take that line as opposed to Wenger who probably tells Gazidis or whoever, I like this player we should sign him, but dont pay more than XX amount, or this guys contract is running out, sign him long term and give him an extra 20k a week.
Wenger should rather be saying ‘We need this player, go get him’ let the executives figure out how we can afford them.
Oh ill also add after the Villa game i said clichy was in a bad place at the mo but fuck me Nasri and Denilson didnt have the brain power between them to try and cover him when every United attack was going down his side its schoolboy stuff
The tactical awareness is crazy Chippy. When we’re level we’re fine, but as soon as we go a goal down we just totally lose our heads and seem to be all over the place. The players are desperate to make up for the goal conceded, fair enough, but they HAVE to accept responsibility for covering for each other when people go forward
frichie you reckon Wenger tells Gazidis how much to pay players when renewing contracts?! I’d be very very surprised if that was the case….
how many players played in their natural positions for us yesterday?
Stunners ,
IF Vermaelen and Gallas dont go forward for corners and free kicks, we better not bother taking the fks and corners. Do you seriously think anyone else in the team can get a headed goal of a set piece ? Whose fault is it that we have only 2 good headers and 1 decent header in Song ? We have gained 10 goals because of Verm and Gallas so the odd goal we have to live with. When they go forward , the full backs and DM – Denilson/Song need to cover the counter.
And , though verm was also to blame for their 3rd goal, the move was started because of a piss poor control from Denilson in their half. So more blame to Denilson for me.
Yesterday, all the Sky Sports & Soccer Saturday pundits tipped us to win (or draw at least) cos we were better than them based on team sheets but we let them pundits down…
Where are the AKB’s now? AW’s Arsenal is a bit like the WMD in Iraq thing. It was always ridiculous and not credible but only after ALL the evidence PROVED it wasn’t true did people get angry. The patience of the fans I think is at its limit. After defeat on Sunday I think (hope) it will all be over. Wenger was great building on a spine of (mainly British) players he inherited. Since that went we’ve won nothing. Remember that. Everything you see is M Wengers creation. Enjoy..
We have to face the fact that thing’s will not change,
the board are in a controlled power struggle.FACT.
with the controlling share issue it’s only a matter of time.
They love a manager who turns a profit every year and gets them top 4 in leauge and champione leauge quater semi year arter year and comes out and says he wont spend…
But we are the people who suffer we want to win cups and leauge titles but the board and manager dont why ?
SIMPLE IT WOULD MEAN INVESTMENT and big investment
So what can we do show our anger towards the team and manager YES 100%,
A friend of mine was lucky enough to have a lunch with AW and he said he really thought it was bad that we booed our own team
So we know for a fact that AW also said to the press last year that he hated the fact that we the fans had given eboue such a hard time (shame)
So we need to fight back we need to organise ourself through these web sites and get on the team, manager,board,aqnd push a little..
I hear that the chosen one wants to come back to the premier leauge well i for one hate him but he knows how to win unlike someone else i could name.
who know f@~k all
A, I think he does.
I remember Lee Dixon saying that Wenger requested their salaries were raised when he joined the club.
Sorry, my last comment wasn’t quite as intended. I meant that with all players coming back now, and VP in the future, I can’t see why we can’t improve.
Some people asking me if Wenger knows.
You guys are obviously baying for blood, so it would be a bit stupid at this point to come out with an outright disagreement.
At the start of the season we were not even touted to finish in the top 4. Now, most reasonable pundits put us as 3rd.
Nobody here wants to finish 3rd – including me. Nobody here wants to go out in the semis again of the Champions league.
My view is that you have to ask yourself a realistic question. Who are the top 3 clubs in Europe ?
The painful answer is Barcelona, Manchester United and Chelsea.
Do we come close ?
At the moment – no.
Ask another question – did we ever have aspirations in the 1980s and 90s to be the top 3 ? Yes – but we got nowhere near – not even close.
My argument is that Wenger has raised the expectation level even higher, but at the moment, he is not meeting it.
I would expect Wenger to conclude very soon whether this group of players is anywhere near that top 3. And if his answer is that we fall short, to use his phrase, then I expect us to go ballistic in the transfer market during the summer. We do have money, but Wenger has gambled on development. Before you guys start to hit keys in a rage, there are some undeniable success stories of young players. Most people on here recognise Fabregas as a world class player. I’ve seen very little criticism of Clichy until now, and that also goes for Kieran Gibbs. There has also been a turn around on Song.
Some players fell short yesterday, and I expect Wenger to be ruthless and drop them, to be replaced by new signings or players coming through.
As for the final answer – is there another manager ? Of course there are other managers. Hiddink will give us a nice shape. Benitez would give us a 9-1 formation, and Mourinihio would make us super organised. Would I want any of them ? – No.
Sam,
We have gained 10 goals cos of Gallas & Verm but how many more we have leaked cos of them two?
A
In the annual report last year PHW commented on how AW decides how much each player is worth in terms of wages, so yes I think he has the final say.
A,
Agree i said earlier its like the charge of the Lightbrigade when we go a goal behind and it just leaves us open to a mauling, We are always going to score goals so why they think its necessary to score straight away is beyond me.
Now im down on Wenger at the Mo but theres got to be some communication on the players part they are pros that earn a bundle yet play like 10 year olds its unreal,
Probably more than did for the invincibles Nick….
Sam players will give the ball away, that just happens. Vermy was last or second last man, and his ball chasing totally created the breakaway for Park. Denilson miscontrolled, that happens, Vermaelen didn’t do his job, which ultimately cost us the third goal. Denilson was poor for it, but not to blame for the goal as such imo, though a small contributor.
I really don’t know what the solution is to the current problem in the big games. Why didn’t it click up top, why don’t the players have it in them to take defensive responsibility when the going gets tough, how could that change?
AKB you know what you are talking . Please support me i want to play for Brasil in World Cup
Nice post AKB.
eduardo – Has not been the same since his injury
Bendtner – Has not proven he a top goalscorer yet
Vela – Has not proven he a top goalscorer yet
Walcott- Has not proven he a top goalscorer yet
Arshavin – Has not proven he a top goalscorer yet
Van persie – Quality but to injury prone
A really, the invincibles were all world class players capable of inter changing but all started in their own positions and mainly stayed there if my memory is correct
AKB, I think you missed out the biggest team in Europe Real Madrid
pedro cheeky goal you scored at the weekend
hows Geoff car???
Look, fucking wise up you Wenger lovers. This is a man that aquired a “nearly man” tag in France, after winning just one league and one cup a few years apart with Monanco, then fled to Japan…Yes Japan!
To understand football, is to understand that to a greater or lesser degree a team’s character will mirror or respond to the charactor of their manager, and after 13 years in this country Wenger is fully aware that he does not have the beating of the far more dogged determined Ferguson, who has and so as does his team a greater will to win. This is why Wenger doesn’t spend, because if he did it would raise expectation. He doesn’t want to be seen to be on a level playing feild in that respect with Ferguson so he plays this “youth policy” that he hides behind.
Thats what makes me laugh when he says that if continues to be criticised, he might take Madrid up on their offers. No you won’t you gutless Frenchman, you won’t go there because you know that you will be sacked within 18 months, and that club is owned by the fans and they would not put up with your idealist shit for one moment, so he stays where he knows where he is safe, with a club who’s fans haven’t got the bollox to dig him out for it. Sad to say that buts it true. Until we really start voicing our opinions nothing will change, and this idealist stubborn arrogant manger will continue to take his huge wages and mug us all off!
I would say that with a few additions, we could be in the top 3 clubs.
We have a core of superb players.
A top keeper, a top striker and a top back up centre back… and we’d be flying.
That would surprise me now Pedro, I thought Gazidis did the negotiating with contracts and agents? Why on earth is Gazidis employed otherwise?!
Chippy I don’t blame Wenger for that – it’s the players, and I don’t blame them individually either! It’s difficult, it’s obvious that they KNOW what to do, because in other games, or when we’re not behind they do do it, but it just seems like they totally lose their heads in the big games. Maybe it just is a collective lack of experience, and only playing games will change that, which is very frustrating. Arshavin, Rosicky, Gallas are all experienced players and they’re no different. Maybe it’s just a lack of confidence and belief in the big games, and the only way it could improve is by winning big games regularly?
so it looks like we will sign no one !!!
No problem We dont need any new signings as what we have is just so good !!!
It is just coincidence that we get smashed at home by other top of the league clubs !!
But hey, we can give the other 17 teams in the EPL a good game !!
Real Madrid have failed to reach the quarters of the champions league in the last 4 years. I’m not sure they are in the top 3. Although they could be back to that level this year.
chippy yes it was tacickly piss performances but this prem will be won just 2 bad games and this team performances and basing my comments on there performances since the chelsea game have played with alot more organisation and push better performances yes it is very concerning that they could get up for huge game like that,what saw in thi sgame was more down very poor performance,i have no dought edwardo risiscky nasri diaby aa song ramsey merida etc are top players but they need to more organised than that and i dont see how getting a striker would changed the piss poor performance
Stunners,
You cant blame the CBs for those leaked goals as if it is their mistake because ,
a) Full backs and DM who are assigned with stopping counters do not stop a counter attack
b) They are asked to attack corners and FKs because we dont have any other headers in the team for the leaked goals.
Gerry bit harsh in places but the nail got a hit there as well
A, Gazidis does loads of things for the club, not just negotiating contracts.
Wenger will tell Gazidis what he thinks the player is worth… Gazidis negotiates from there.
Nick, the car is unbelievable… a real stunning looking motor!
Arsenal have beaten Manchester United to Icelandic midfielder Ingólfur Sigurðsson. The left-footed central midfielder has rejected the advances of the Premier League Champions to link up with the Gunners for a trial next month.
Sigurðsson has been subject of intense interest from club’s all over Europe after breaking through and turning in a handful of eye-catching performances in the Úrvalsdeild League. Officials from Everton and Arsenal were present at the weekend as the exciting 16-year-old scored a fantastic brace for Knattspyrnufélag Reykjavíkur’s senior team.
Cheers Pedro.
Your memory isn’t correct then Nick!
I disagree Pedro, I don’t believe any individual additions would make a difference to the sort of game we had yesterday. It’s a collective thing, and it’s the favourites as well as the scapegoats. I really don’t believe any individuals playing would make any difference to the collective atmosphere in the team in those big matches….
Zak – I think my 10 year will have had a similar reception at his school. Luckily he’s quite a sarcastic so & so (chip off the old block and all that) so he should be ok.
I wish the players could get some inkling of how bad they’ve made us all feel by that so-called performance yesterday.
The fans are the club – not the manager or the multi millionaire mercenaries who have the privilege of putting on the red & white.
Akb – ”expect Wenger to be ruthless and drop them, to be replaced by new signings or players coming through”
When has he done that in the past? very rarely!!
wenger is taking us backwards!! Each season we sell one of our best players and we don’t replace them!!
Wenger will never go mad in the transfer window for whatever reason!!
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A who played out of position then, remind me
Sam you can 100% blame Vermy for the third goal….
Pedro that’s true skoda have come along way
Neves, fuck off out and buy FIFA 10 then!
A, maybe. I think opinion is divided on that one Verm/Den.
A, you can’t possibly state that with any sort of certainty!
If you put Paddy in his prime in the team yesterday, it changes the game… you put RvP in there, it changes the game.
Of course and addition could make a difference.
Equally it doesn’t guarantee anything…
I think even a change to the line up from what we had would have made a difference.
Rambo… Walcott… Bends…
Lauren, Pires, Ljungberg Nick, three core players of the team!
Go back a bit further to the title winning side before that, add Petit and Wiltord to those players.
that was an absolute disgrace…
FUCK, FUCK, FUCK
I stopped short of writing an explicit post, hoping that I will stop fuming by today afternoon, but so far, I can’t see that happening
haha, too right nick… it has a clock!
A,
Denilson gave the ball away for that goal, how was it Vermalen’s fault?
Sam I agree that opinion is divided, but mostly because Vermy is a fan’s favourite and Denilson the current hate figure!
Vermy was basically the last man, and went walkabout, it was terrible defending, and created the situation where it was THAT easy for Utd to just walk it in
Rob Green,
I believe he has been ruthless in the past.
When Henry’s ego got to a critical mass, he was dropped in his last season, what was it ? 6 weeks before the end.
He dropped Lehmann and replaced him with Almunia. This was when Almunia was very unfancied.
And he sold Toure and Adebayor. Both players under 30. He effectively replaced Toure with Vermaelen. He also brought in Sagna and ended Eboue’s run as a right back.
i have heard it all now!!
”Did we want it too much?”
Sunday’s defeat is difficult to take but easy to explain because we were poor offensively and defensively.
We delivered an off-the-mark performance and that is why we were well beaten. We gave Manchester United too much room, and we were naive. I believe we have to stick together now, recover and produce a much better performance next Sunday against Chelsea.
I don’t know why we performed poorly. Did we want it too much? Were we a bit inhibited and tense? I’m not sure. The physical reasons are not obvious because we finished the game quite well and we were unfortunate because we gave the third goal away. You could see we finished quite strong and had we come back to 2-1 earlier on maybe we had a chance. At 3-1 it was too much.
The players wanted to win, and they are really down. This team has spirit, a good attitude mentally, and it is very difficult to say so soon after the game why we were not at all at our level. I believe there are some mental reasons in there but it is difficult to say.
Wayne Rooney played very well but I would say they had other players who gave us some problems, not only Rooney. We gave them too much room everywhere and Rooney took advantage of it. We conceded two goals which were straight from corners for us. The intelligence of our positioning was wrong.
It’s massive disappointment, but we have to recover from this, that is part of top-level football. We have to focus on delivering a completely different performance against Chelsea because we were never close in our marking against Man United and you do not win big games like that.
We need something special now to stay in the race, of course. I am conscious of that.
Yeah of course can’t state it categorically Pedro, but imo it’s a collective thing, and on the whole there is no player in the squad any less guilty than any other. I really don’t believe individual changes would make much difference.
So who is Neves Denilson??!!
I reckon ddm
akb
I was just asking a general question to get a rough feeling of how the other akb’s felt. Believe me im frustrated just as much as you are and I would hate to see him go but for the good of our football club I think it might be time.
…good post by the way
played out of position?
Lauren was a right back played right back
pires attacking winger played there
launberg the same
A are you on the hard stuff….come back and say no they were play makers
i say they were comfortable and never looked out of place compare that to who he plays where now and you get my point or not 
Odub Vermy was last or second last man and was attracted very poorly to Rooney, giving Park free run through, and Utd the opportunity to play the ball to him. Vermy will learn, still young etc, but it was very poor imo.
you all seem to be concerned about our play.
well when my mate spoke with AW at this lunch.
we dont practice corners for or against,throw ins for or against or free kicks for or against,
and when he mentioned this as one of my questions too him he got really really pissed that how dare he be questioned on such things…
and there in layes the problem he is completely free to do as he pleases and no questions.
so we can all sit there and see denilson,alminimum,diarby,walcot,vela,merida,clichy,
silvest,traore,,,are not good enough for arsenal
9 players there should raise about £6,50 that.ll get one beer and a programe just
pedro it the GTI model then
1.2 TDI
I personally never want to see Denilson play anymore for Arsenal. Simple as …
Super Nani! Super Nani! go fuck your nani sky sports cunts
The problem is not additions I think. Its the attitude of the players. They are great footballers with a lot of talent. But they are like training ground footballers, not professionals who relish the fight and the big occasions.
They are boys playing a man’s game.
A, you have a point.
But,
If players play consistently well and give all their effort, then people tend to be more forgiving when they make a mistake. Verm
If they feel someone is not good enuf and they dont look like putting enough effort, then they are not very forgiving for mistakes. Den
It is natural. Song and Diaby changed people’s minds.
It has to be earned I guess.
A.
I thought we had turned the corner when we beat Chelsea away lat year but it was another false dawn Its time we and Wenger all faced up to the fact that some of these players are just not good enough !!
Maybe it’s just a lack of confidence and belief in the big games, and the only way it could improve is by winning big games regularly? Its not going to happen until we start buying big game players that have a winning mentality.
Pedro what a flash cunt
Thanks Rob the Goon.
Let’s hope for some improvement on Sunday.
carolinecheese on Twitter: “I just walked past the Emirates Stadium and saw a man walking not one dog, but three. Hmmmm.”
A,
Denilson doesnt give the ball away, they dont score.
Denilson gets out run by a 40+ ref on his way ”tracking back” from doing the above.
Vermalen could have done more agreed, but I cant see how you can blame him for the goal!
Fabregas says they have to do the talking on the pitch and then makes declarations to fill up an article.
Which is which dude?
Whats wrong with all of you . yourll mad or somthing?
I will be best player. I will better than gilberto
A … I really think it has nothing to do with love or hate in this case. I really hate slating our own players. So you’ll never see me swearing on him or anything. It’s just that he really needs to be dropped. And I honestly believe that if Diaby played instead of him yesterday we could have done much better. A player that has a fault in all 3 goals, and has fucked up in many recent games too should not play anymore don’t you agree ?
Nick Lauren was a midfielder and was moved to right back, Pires and Ljungberg were central attacking midfielders, and were moved out wide, idential to Hleb, Rosicky, Nasri since them….
Can’t agree with you more. I think we were all hopeful when we went top of the table for those 3-4 days, but the FA Cup exit, poor performance against Villa and loss against Man U might all but ended our season. If we lose this weekend against Chelsea, it’s going to be all but over.
Same song, different year.
the only sustained period of pressure on the man u goal occured when Bendtner was brought on on 72 minutes. this was not a conincidence or down to man u dropping their level or anything like that. It was because a big man in the heart of the man u defence disturbed them.
so therefore not having a big man up front was costly. even if Nik was still injured, wenger should have replaced RVP in january.
decisions like this reflect very badly on wenger.
akb
Still feeling the pain now but by the weekend I’ll be full of optimism again. I just hope we’re not here next monday talking about the same flaws
I will beat any of you in football. you don’t know how to play. its not about speed it about passing and skill play
Chippy I’d call Arshavin a big game player, big name, experienced, and if he hadn’t inexplicably missed easy chances, and made wrong decisions, then we could’ve been 3-0 up in the first half!
Odub Denilson lost possession, but from the point Utd had the ball, Vermaelen was in the position he should’ve been in, and was absolutely terrible in being attracted to the ball, giving Park a free run through, and creating space for the pass to him!
It was absolutely attrocious from Vermy, and if he hadn’t done that then Utd simply couldn’t have walked the ball through. Especially doing it when pretty much last man, it was very unlike him.
He’s young and will learn, that was probably the biggest game of his career, but it was VERY poor, and I’m sure one of the individual mistakes Wenger was talking about.
i feel for most of the season this team has fighting and playinf for each other as a team nut manu game was worst i have seen them i dont think new signings would have made difference in this game there team organisation it was fragmented evon both in attack in defensivley but its known to happen both manu and chelsea.yes the extremly bad day at the office i think its a bit to soon for doom and gloom yet
I wont go to the emirates anymore while it is like this. I wont part with my money for arsenal to put into arsenal bank accounts.
if he buys players and does all the things he should then I will go back even if we are not winning trophies, but I wont support the current regime financially.
Empty seats will be everywhere next season.
It was symptomatic of our collective mentality, when behind we’re desperate to score, and people try and be assertive, and positive, but do so in a totally disorganised way, with a lack of composure, and not thinking about what’s going on behind them.
A i have already answered you
They were exceptional players and they may have been converted but they had it in their game already.
None of his experiments have come off since as none of them look comfortable or confident.
Just because some one can adapt the way they play doesn’t mean you should expect it from everybody is what im saying plus they had a solid team around them to keep them focused
30m in the coffers.I am happy.We wont win nuffin this season again.Long live Arsene Wenger.
Neves Denilson Says:
February 1, 2010 at 14:19
I will beat any of you in football. you don’t know how to play. its not about speed it about passing and skill play
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good to see we attract the mentally imbalanced to the site also
KEEP THE FAITH,WENGER KNOWS
What experiments Nick?
We have 30 mill now so what do we need to win a trophy for not like we need the winnings
Diaby, nasri, wallcott, nikki b,eboue,arshavin fuck me how many do you want that are being held back by wenger and his tactics or lack of em
Neves Denilson, your passing is great.
I loved the way you tried to block Nani when he was through on goal.
dont listen to these idiots, Wenger trusts you, Wenger knows
Leon-It’s a bit to soon for doom and gloom,i bet you would try and find a positive before you were about to be hung m8
The invention of the crab pass is legendary,genius well done for that
See eathan i cheered you up:)
Question: Worst performance against Manure ever???
I thinks so…
I reckon that the only signing we’ll make this summer is a new manager.
Would do you think we should go for?
denilson and your hair do is all the rage in windsor
Ritesh
Rich, I think the Stepanovs game was worse
Unculturedbullshit.wordpress.com should win the crappiest website of all time awards.Some of the mugs over there have commented that,good players like Clownmoonia and Denilson dont become bad players overnight.
This feels worse than the Champions League exit last year… Frankly, I’ve never felt so down after a defeat. Also, the likes of Cesc, Arshavin and Vermaelen ( culpable for the thrid goal ) should not escape criticism
Fuck off Rich, do you not remember the 6-2 at home?
I would go for Hiddink..available and it would piss the Chavs off.
A,
I agree with your analysis but its been going on for years, why hasnt wenger learnt.
He has moulded so many frail, mentally weak teams its scary.
Think about the collapses in 2002/3, 2007/8 and even after we lost at OT in 2004. Not to mention all the big games we have lost in recent times.
Rohan, can’t agree, at least this time we had some chances (Arshavin and SOng) Last season’s game was a proper humiliation!
Well looks like the Exodus for this season has begun. Zero Liverpool tickets on the Arsenal Exchange pre man utd yesterday and Today a whole page full and probably hundreds more in the pipeline
Same for the Sunderland game as well
i,m still having nightmares at the site of nani making a comeplete arse out of clichy and nasri. i cant get it out of my mind
I am planning to open an account where fans can donate towards an airfare for Wenger.
The trip will be on Discovery spaceship into the universe, an environment ideal for experimenting, philosophy and science where Wenger will feel like a fish in water.
The account will close when we have reached enough funds to pay for one way travel.
nick a striker would be nice but this team have scoring alot without rvp for a while,i feel they need work and fight alot harder as a team in my ipinion that was more down to the loss
Same old yeah, seems like wenger will never learn from his mistakes!! Once again the team needs additions and he refuses to sign new players claiming this team is good enough .. We all saw yesterday which team was the better one
i was really optimistic about this game though nd watching us getting humiliated like that once again at home was so painful..
Do you really expect us to win at the bridge?!
We’re heading towards another trophy-less season !
I’ve lost all the faith in Wenger, i wouldnt be sad to see him go .. Fuck ! i can’t understand..Why is he the only person on earth who thinks denilson is a good player ?!?!
Nah id go for the 6-1 defeat at their gaff i was in the Stretford End that day and it was moe than Painful
Approximately 2.5 hours more to the window closing.
2 signings I predict.
I think Arsene thinks that if he bought and then won the PL would mean the failure of Project Youth, but I don’t think so. Sure there are some faggots that came out of the project such as Denilshite but there’s also Fabregas, RVP, Clichy and so on..
rich
are you forgetting that 6-1 experience when we had stepanovs on our wage books
A, meant to say, I have a cup game on the Sat we play Sunderland. You want my ticket for a pony!
we should be getting rid of players in this transfer window nevermind buying. don,t see many teams bidding for our players. that says a lot
Stepanovs or Denilson..who was worse.
nn, in all fairness don’t see many top teams letting players go!
Stephanovs tried hard…..
rohan
stepanovs.
Theres still a tiny bit of hope with denilson.
The goals scored chart flatter us, we dont look clinical imo.
utd and other teams looked as if they would score with every attack dont know how much thats down to their strikers or our lack of confidence in defence
gooner the prem is not won over 2-3 games it sbased on 32 games they played poorly manu game and chelsea game there form comming into thi sgame have extremly good.you can only buy players who is availeble in the market i a mean if there any strikers that wiill score at least 15-20 goals a season and unless wenger can player that top class in midfield as good song daiby ramsey nasri or better should he jusy buy anyone for the sake of it i think it sbetter right player not just any player,
Rich…..think the worse was when manure beat us 6-2 at Old Trafford……We had Stepnovs who went missing..
I remember Keane scoring and then waving at the Arsenal fans……
Just watched http://www.nuts.co.uk/4b61e7e859dd8/arsenal-v-man-u
What a crowd of pussies our team is these days.
No real men willing to stand up and fight.
leon thats why you have to splash the cash ti get the best players everybody has a price.
if you say look you northen cunts your shit and skint but we will do you a favour and give you £40mill for that blond spainish fella and another 15mill if you chuck in the bar room brawler Stevie me you might have a longer conversation 
If you phone liverpool and say hi we would like to sign torres for 20mill coz thats the market rate dont think they would fall over themselves to do a deal
Ferguson has a good hairdryer. Thats why his players run like mad dogs on the pitch chasing every ball.
I wonder how Wenger will tell Denilson & Co. about their performance yesterday.
Or will he not tell them anything to protect their self confidence?
I must have been looking at a totally different game (4 rows in from the pitch) that some of you…. for me Denilson is a waste of space….. he is to short, to slow and makes to many miss passes – IMO.
My question/s;
Why didn’t Bendter play to start with and taken off if/when he was tired, why didn’t Ramsey or Eboue rather than Denilson (who made such a ‘brave’ statement in the papers that he make Evra eat his words)- did he????? Aside of all this, I did overhear people making comments when I left like ”I can’t believe I paid £120 to watch that rubbish” plus lots of other unhappy comments. We’re told that this team can achieve and win things, apart from some special wins (not Man U or Chelsea or Man City or even Stoke though) I haven’t seen much evidence. I want to win the 100 meter sprint, but I’m not good enough. Please don’t say ”but we have had so many injuries” yes, we have, BUT, the whole point of transfer windows is that you replenish to make sure you have enough cover in all areas, does AFC have enough cover?
It was 6-1 at old trafford, not 6-2.
Although they did also beat us 6-2 at home i believe in the league cup, back in the days when we didnt fucking prioritise trophies.
i am so pissed off and have started reflecting on missed opportunities with Signings !!
I have always stuck up for AW on here and have never wanted him sacked.
But, i hate to say it that he has now missed out on lots of signings and i think this is the reason we get easily beaten by Manu and chavski at home.
You have a think of the players that should be at Arsenal !! Could Barry have added some steel to our midfield yesterday ?? That’s just one.
It feels to me that lots of bloggers on here have stated that we need to turn around 5 positions in the squad. But cause of the lack of transfer activity we would be happy with just one signing !! We need 3 signings minimum!! simple as that.
hurley burley
That almost brought a tear to my eye, the van nistlerooy bit
Hurley,
Its definately a problem that we are a team of little boys.
How happy would you be if you got into a fight in a pub with Drogba, Essien, Rooney or Vidic.
How happy would you be if you got in one with Nasri, Theo, Denilson or Clicky
Lets face it you would piss yourself with laughter then knock them out.
Its probably best that we go with an experienced manager with a good reputation. no point in getting something like bould/Bargkamp. something like Hiddink/Bergkamp would be better.
wenger must go in the summer. the board will see all the empty seats. they have to act. fans want to see top players not a bunch of fucking shit kids and old men.
ritesh…. you are right bout fergie’s hairdryer bollocking but that it not the only reason !!
Wenger can get his players in training today and go nuts at them like fergie would.
The difference is, Fergie has more competition for places in his squad !!
lets face it most of the players feel they have made it, some just out of teens and millionaires already they are only motivated by money and that they have now no pride in the team at the moment imo
I think Arsenal had it enough for this club he cant take us any where from here he is afraid of spending because he knows what 30 mil player can bring not only quality also pressure and he dose not wont pressure he will panic
afternoon All..
ive been watching yesterdays disaster over and over….and well there are certain things that becomes very clear..
1. almunia has to go…he is ruining our defence,a goalie should be calm..secure and like a general in defence…with him our defence will never be any good..
2. denilson shows a lack of understanding..and must either be sold..or rested for a very long time..
if we get thoose problems fixed we would be in it with a chance….
then in the summer..we either let wenger go…or he do some serious rethinking of project youth…which proves time and time again that it isnt the way forward….
rest of the season…we’d be happy to secure fourth….CL..no chance whatsoever…
so wenger its fair to say that you have fucked up another season..and to all AKB*s..it is time to wake up….we dont demand much more than improvement which clearly isnt happening….Arsenal isnt moving forward …
nick there are only a few top strikers out there and i dought clubs will be willing sell in jan unless you want huge amounts,i think top striker but shorley the likes aa risicky edwardo bretna theo vela if that not enough attacking options shorly
We did not re-sign Viera because it could kill the development of Denilson.
Whats wrong with this guy….Is he carrying an injury or something???? It cant be true, he cannot be that crap!!!
Leon i’m sure there’s players out there who are better than some of our players..
I know the prem is not won over 2-3 games, but look at the table.. If chelsea win against hull they’ll be 8 points clear .. Then even IF we beat them we would still be 5 points behind.
A loss next sunday would completely end our title hopes !
Some of you will say im too pessimistic but if you look objectively you’ll come to the same conclusion.
leon its quality not quantity
For me it needs to be;
Out;
-Almunia
-Mannone
-Clichy
-Denilson
-Eduardo
-Vela
-Walcott
-Kids (Randall, Hoyte, Gilbert, Traore)
In;
-World class GK
-Very good CB
-World class LB
-World class CM
-Back Up DM
-World class striker
-Powerful winger/striker
11 out, 7 in, dont care how much we spend.
Booing players…thats soft lads…lets take a trip up to Colney and see them face to face!
My Swedish mate in Stockholm wrote a letter on behalf of the Hammarby supporters club to a player when they were relegated this year. He sent it to the players home address saying that he costs too much money in wages, is crap and told him to leave the club…and the player did!!
* sell Simpson as well, so 12 out.
SongtheGreat I couldn’t agree more . My head is hurting like a fucking hammer since yesterday
and its quite funny the way wengers mind works…now he’s trying to tell us all that chamakh isnt available..well you stupid feck..you had the chance to buy him in the summer..why didnt you ?..
how stupid can one get ?????
Leon
you should take eduardo out of that. I might upset a few people but I think if he doesnt improve by the end of the season we should sell him. Reason being, I think that injury has affected him big time. Very short on confidence and if you notice him playing he wont go in for certain balls. I do think he may need a fresh start.
Goonerjohn….to be honest I would say you are very realistic.
I was looking at the table earlier and thinking the same thing.
Wardo, we had RAmbo on the bench + Diaby to come.
Denilson made a similar mistake in the cup and let a winger go without any challenge…I am beginning to think that he must not have recovered from his back injury cause he cant be that crap.
I’m no stats man. I’m sure some of you out there are.
If so can you tell us how our record compares with Denilson in and out of the team.
I’m sure our good run coincided with him being injured and he’s playing in nearly all our defeats?
Anyone?
Agree Gambon.
Yes Rob – what memories. We were a team of men willing to fight to get a result. Now, were a crowd of over paid kids who would’nt put the fear of god in me grandma.
So many changes required, its hard to know where to start.
From the begging or the top
beginning
gambon
clichy, walcott and traore shouldnt be on the way out.
they need a bit of support if anything, someone said earlier good players dont become bad overnight
he thinks Denlshit can perform at the highest level what discres it shows you how much this man is stupid and dummy its been four years Arsene wake up and get you check-book out
gambon,
agree with most of that. might keep Eduardo, and would probably keep Clichy and Vela. but clichy could be demoted to back up LB – I actually think Gibbs is already better than clichy.
Eduardo – happy to let go IF and when a proper replacement is bought. Vela still needs a run in the team before we write him off – he is too young to write off.
rob, true but if someone came in now and offered £10m for theo, wouldn’t you take it?
tempting but i’d have to say no…surely we could get a bit more for him
gamdon i would sell almunia and delinson but edwardo vela dis agree there if look at the lack of any movement of chelsea or manity or manu is full proof that there not to many top players around,plus having that many players comming in/out would totaly mess up building any kind team that why chosen try build a team that hes been playing together long while now
aaaawww, poor likkle Theo, neds support…
well, boo-fucking-hoo, he needs to put his back in it or the only support he’ll get will be fucking income support…
Gambon, I wouldn’t sell Eduardo because he is a good striker to have in the squad. And Clichy? are you sure? He is one of the most committed players we have, ok he has played poorly since he’s come back, but that will change.
The rest I agree with.
Also its important to note that of the starting 11 yesterday we only had 3 positions that need to be strengthened : GK, CM, and CF
Maqitlarge
Denilson was good last year when Cesc was out of the team with injury. However when Diaby came in for him, we have been better.
Rob, Clichy always fucks up in the big matches. Look at his clearance on the first goal. He used to be good when Sol was around, now he is crap. Traore has better positional sense.
Almunia…well, well well,…..Almunia….haha, haha, hahaha, hahahaha, hahahahahahaha…
Clichy has been shit for two years,theo isn’t a winger and struggles in that role and traore is average
I agree on eduardo..if he doesn’t deliver we should sell him in the summer..It’s sad because i really liked him but the injury seems to have affecter him..He offers nothing to our game this year, no pace, no height, no finishing…Chamakh would offer much more than him
to be fair, theo looked like the only one who gave a shit when he came on. Nik too. subs were too late – should have been at half time.
gazzap…
i wouldnt …walcott..isnt the player i would get rid of first…
rather you have a pick of theese players mate
1.almunia
2.eduardo
3.silvestre
4.denilson
gettin rid of those four players would give room for what we need..a top notch goalie(akinfeev)a new CB..a world class DM….and either chamakh..or another first class striker..
then id be a very happy gooner…
and im certain that the competition in the squad would be far better and the younger ones would prevail…
clichy is odds on to go imo gibbs is as good if not better traore will be kept if he does go as no.2. 20mill from spain sees him leave this time
Denilson if any one would have him still think he could be great but his performance of late suggest not for us
Eduardo would have to ask to leave cant see wenger fucking him off think he just signed new deal
come on now thats a bit harsh on the lad, i recall pedro writing about theo saying you dont score a hat-trick for england and then disappear overnight. He needs a little kick, furthermore all the under-performers need a kick. They should read this blog, zamora did that and started scoring a couple
Gazzap, who’s the idiot who would give 10m for Walcott.
I would be willing to give Denilson + some cash gift to a team willing to take him
Plain and simple. The team needs to toughen up and stop playing like scared lambs whenever they come up against a big team. We have great players but they just need to stop being so chilish and imaature on the field.
Cesc Fabregas has urged his team-mates to shut out the critics and be strong as they try to wrestle back the initiative in the title race.
Sunday’s numbing 3-1 defeat against Manchester United has left Arsenal four points behind their conquerors and five adrift of Chelsea – having played a game more than the leaders. That gap could be eight points by the time Fabregas and company visit Stamford Bridge next weekend.
Arsenal were top of the Premier League just 12 days ago after completing a quick-fire double over Bolton and, inevitably, their title prospects have now been written off in some quarters. But Arsène Wenger’s side have already bridged an 11-point deficit this season and Fabregas refuses to let his head drop in the wake of Sunday’s result.
“I think we have to be positive,” said the Spaniard. “It is very easy to say we lost to Man United and let our heads go down. We have to be strong, be together more than ever and do our best until the end of the season.
“United had their chances to score even more goals and they also missed [them]. They were the better team and that’s it. They competed better than us.
“With all my respect, I really don’t care what people think about us. It’s about what we believe up until the end of the season. People are not going to play for us and it is up to us to show what we can do.
“People watch the football and enjoy it but we must do our talking on the pitch.”
albania
Clichy is a real weakspot in our team, has been for a while, people dont admit this cos they remember the clichy of 2007
Rob, do we want players who “need a little kick”?
clichy is just a bit rusty he’ll come good im sure of it
Pedro:
“A, Gazidis does loads of things for the club, not just negotiating contracts.
Wenger will tell Gazidis what he thinks the player is worth… Gazidis negotiates from there.”
That part of his job can’t keep him too busy then?
“Okay Theo, let’s start the negotiations at 60k per week…”
Maqitlarge
right now were stuck with those players until the summer at least. obviously I want a team of winners, but it seems thats what they need an eboue MKII
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/fabregas-we-have-to-bounce-back-at-chelsea?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+arsenal-news+%28News+Feed%29
Agree about Clichy, he has been a weakness for years now. Even last season teams would knock long diagonal balls to catch him out.
He can’t defend well and he isn’t that good going forward & crossing so what does he actually add to the team??
BBK – Clichy does more than just defend, he is up there with a lot of the attacks, maybe he needs to be told to cut that down a bit, his defending has been good. All defenders make mistakes, but our problem is that we dont have a GK that bails them out, its the defenders who are bailing out Almunia, and its so obvious that all our defense has lost it a bit because of Almunia
too right we’re stuck with them Rob.
actually, for what its worth, Theo, I think will improve. But at the mo he’s nothing more than a squad player until he shows us some more.
Just a bit tired of waiting for players to mature
people should have stayed right until the end and boo the living daylights out of them – give them a point to prove…
I did S3!
inside…what does clichy actualy contribute to the attacks?
Yes he gets up there but when was the last time he got a shot, assist or successful cross?
Clicy = No shots, no goals, no assists, constantly caught out.
People defend him cos he’s such a nice guy, but we cant carry him just cos he’s nice. We should be scouring the planet for a LB cos its a big weakness in our team.
Clichy has been on the way down since his standout season in 07-08.
People remember that Clichy and say he is still top class but just off form. However before that season he was second choice to Cole. He could be a 1 season wonder for all we know.
We also shouldnt forget that Almunia was at his best during that season. A lot of our players were. Lets just hope that wasnt their peak and their only great season.
gambon
im not defending him because hes a nice guy, im defending him because he has the ability to be a quality player. hes just going through a rough patch besides there are other areas that need to be addressed
I think Gibbs is our best left-back, he can actually defend and when he goes forward he contributes something.
Traore is rubbish defensively but he knows how to cross.
You’d have to say that statistically Clichy is our worst LB.
The way I see it is Clichy gets up there for support, makes himself available so one of the forwards can move into space, also he pulls a marker towards him.
Listen I am not saying he is the best in the world, but apart from Evra there aren’t many who are miles ahead of Clichy. Also to say he is our weakest link is going to far considering the team has Almunia and Denilson in it.
1 hour and 15 min until the window closes!!
Does that stubborn man really think we can with the title and/or the champions league!!
Rob G
has there been any sort of transfer speculation linking us with anyone?
I would agree with that A&N.
I too believe Gibbs is out best left back. He doesnt get beaten in the air much (when he has played) has much better technique than the other 2 and imo he is the best defender.
He is really young and probably not ready to be first choice, but having broke onto the scene last year he has been very impressive.
He can cross, has a decent shot and doesnt lack anything physically that anyother player his age wouldnt lack.
And being English doesnt hurt his cause either.
“I’ve just been to interview a sports consultant at Deloitte. They estimate only £21m has been spent in the January transfer window so far, compared to £170m last year and £150m in January 2008. There haven’t been any £10m signings this year and only one for £5m, which Spurs paid Portsmouth for Younes Kaboul. There were seven £10m signings last January – three were made by Manchester City (Nigel de Jong, Craig Bellamy and Wayne Bridge), three by Spurs (Wilson Palacios, Jermain Defoe and Robbie Keane) and one by Arsenal (Andrey Arshavin).
to be fair to clichy he seemed to be up against to men for most of the match. he was targetted because utd knew nasri cant be arsed tracking back and thats were all their attacks came from but having said that he had a poor game
no Rob the goon!! its a joke!!
Rob The Goon,
Rough patches last 2 months, not 2 years.
Check this out…
16 year old Belgian international striker, 6ft4, fast, powerful and skillful
scored 12 goals in 12 starts for anderlect.
Gambon
so who do you suggest we get to replace him?
Clichy moving forward is pointless imo. His decision making in the opposition third is terrible and his crossing is as bad as it gets.
He is fantastic at making 40yard runs without actually doing anything. He is brilliant in the middle third, always making himself available for a pass and such. But in the defensive third he is nervy and in the offensive third he just does nothing positive..
Also, his best attributes being his pace, enthusiasm(sp) and stamina doesnt bode well for when he gets older because his pace will be gone and he has awful positioning.
Rob The Goon,
No idea, im not the guy with a network of 200 scouts.
Pay me £6m a year and i’ll find you someone overnight.
A&N
Lukaku is very good, but not available for 2 years, at which time all the big clubs in the world will lodge bids. Wenger is scared of going up against other clubs.
i got this from the guardian
Re: Mirko Vucinic having to leg it to The Emirates,” writes somebody who wants to be called Victor Smythe-Goldwin, because they’re emailing from work and don’t want to get caught by using their real name. “Is this an example of Arsenal saving cash on transfer dealings with a cheap medical? If he can reach the ground in time to sign the contract he has proven he is fit enough.”
i dont really believe those you tube videos, I saw one on zhirkov. says it all really!
If he does that consistent for 2 seasons then we’ll know if hes worth a punt
gambon, why is he not available for 2 years??
Can’t we get a pre-contract done for him now and let him continue where he is for 2 years?
good man, Maquit
I was referring to the ones who left – Wenger can bring up the old, tired ‘transport arrangements’ excuse…
had 57K people stayed, like they usually don’t and boo, this would give them some food for thought…
Vucinic would be sweet. Doubt it though as he recentley signed a contract extension.
He is definately a wengerball player though.
rob , watch the clip I know youtube can be deceptive but some of this kids goals are classy by any strikers standards let alone a 16 year olds.
Rob Green. I don’t think winning the league or CL is his ambition. I think 4th is enough. People have been saying that for ages on here (not me). I think they are spot on.
Agree Gambon…if they are not good enough, sell them… wtf, this is not an experimentation zone for Wenger.
gambon
I’ll just dip into my account and i’ll give that to you with interest.
The only reason I asked is because you seem so against clichy when we all know he is much better than his current form
A&N
he does look pretty good. surely he cant be 16!?
Wengerball isn’t really working
Clichy on form is a great defender but he hasnt been on form in too long. He has absolutely no end product and isnt a great defender either. All his ability is thanks to his pace imo and thats an awful trait to have.
I also think Gallas should play like a defender because he is one.
All the time trying to score, I think you could actually put that down to having no strikers on the pitch, but there you go!
stu
this may sound dumb, but what does “imo” stand for?
wow.. people are really calling for Wenger’s head today. Wenger better invest some money in a couple body guards and a body double, because if we lose at chelsea, we go strait to the shitter
Rob-he is 16 with a Belgian passport, no chance of him being an age cheat. His dad was a footballer as well, and his idol is Drogba. Chelsea have been on his case for a while, so it will be difficult to get him.
Choy, its obvious now why Gallas wanted the number 10 aint it.
IMO = in my opinion.
Lukaku seems great, similar type of player to drogba, strong and quick !! when you see him play, it’s hard to believe he’s only 16 !!
Mirko Vucinic? would be a great signing but come on, do you still believe we will sign someone before the end of the transfer window?
Stu
that still baffles me to this day, why did he get that shirt number?
He should of retired that number until we had a worthy number 10
stu
cheers
In fairness GM, Wengerball does work most of the time. Its just that when a team can defend well then we have nothing to fall back on.
If we could have Wengerball but still have an organised defence..if only.
with this 4-3-3 system our full backs are very exposed. the attacking wide players rarely track back and if they do its a token effort. compare with united’s wide men like Park and Nani who were busting a gut all match to cover the defence.
The 4-3-3 does no favours to clichy or sagna and they are suffering.
I think the midfield needs two very defensive midfielders who can cover left and right – basically two Songs. we have enough creative players – all we’d need then is a proper striker – Nik B is the closest thing we have to that right now.
I just wish rvp had never gotten injured. The goals would be flowing and the defenders would be defending
Rob, i heard that when Gallas arrived the only low number available were 3 and 10. Gallas, having just left Chavski because they played him left back, didnt want 3, a left backs number, so chose 10 instead.
Why the fuck couldnt he have taken a higher number.
Or at least change it when another number became available. Like when hleb left give him 13 and give 10 to someone who deserves it.
We NEED to get behind our players….We Really Do…!!! Don’t us all go dissing Denilson…The guy is a great talent….and I have a feeling he will turn the corner, just as Song did….I know we are all pissed off with the guy but bottom line is, it’s Arsene’s fault for playing him. I still believe Wenger Knows….but knows what…?!?!?!
Denilson plays left side of centre when Song plays too.
Its not up to the widemen to cover the fullbacks. Song drops back to support the CBs and Denilson supports (or is supposed to anyway) the left back.
Rosicky is a fantastic player for tracking back and whenever he plays right wing he usually comes back to help Sagna, or Fab if he isnt too far forward.
Stu
wenger should of said it is not available
disrepecting the legend who had it before him!
Mojo, the difference between Song and Denilson is that Song started like shit and got better. Denilson has been a starter for 2 seasons now and just seems to be getting worse.
4-3-3 works if you defend from the front.
Barca were the kings of 4-3-3 but they could only do it with their strikers defending from the front. In that year they won the CL, Henry and Messi had most fouls conceeded in La liga, Henry had something like 87 fouls to his name! That shows how hard the strikers work, how high they pressed.
For our 4-3-3 to work we absolutly need our wide strikers to track back and press hard, and that is never the case. Nasri/Rosicky/Eduardo/Vela/Walcott are usually missing in action.
He gave the number to a defender so that he wouldn’t be compared to Bergkamp.
A&N
Firstly Lukaku is hardly the answer right now, we need to increase the average age of the team, not decrease it. But i do agree he is top class, and would blow the likes of Watt & Murphy away.
His parents have said numerous times he’s going nowhere til he’s 18.
It would make no sense to sign a pre contract now as his value is going up every day. He could tie himself into £20 PW when he will be worth £80k pw in a few years.
Would love to sign him though, i tell you what, if we do i’ll buy you a bottle of Sailor Jerrys, and 12 hot wings!!
“Apparently Manchester City want to take John Terry to Manchester City as cover for Wayne Bridge,” he writes. “Let’s be honest, we already know he can step in and do a better job.”
Stu I’d have to disagree totally with you there. Rosicky if things are happening near and/or in front of him is very tenacious, and works very hard but in terms of his overall tracking back it’s absolutely non-existant. Every game there are situations were you see him just ambling around on the half way line when he should be back helping Sagna out.
so the last day of transfer window
Arshavin completes ONE year at arsenal..happy birthday arshavin @ arsenal.
mojo,
some courage to come here with the ‘Wenger knows’ cliche…
A&N
I think eduardo is better suited to a 4-4-2 formation with a big man next to him. when that guy from togo was here them two formed a good partnership, its only when dudu suffered that injury our form dipped
Fair enough A, but he still does more defending that most of the other players who play the wide role.
with respect to 4-3-3,as the season wore one,the defending as a team is very poor,especially our front 3 lack awareness when to defend…
this has become evident as games have gone…
gazzap changing the system is the best thing wenger could have done it clearly suites them alot more attacking he freed up fab to do what he does best i dont think it has anything do with 433 formation i dont it has anything do with formations period,the playersjust did not show up yestaday
Evening all, at the end of last season
le Boss: we got to the semi final of the fa cup, champions league and qualify for the next season CL.
this season so far out of the fa cup.
I think the board’s mentality is we are quite satisfied with 4th place, not even 2nd or 3rd. Why 4th place you have a play off and the possibility of getting income in the form or gate receipts from those matches is too much for them to pass up.
Also A, if that is the case (that he is more involved in the defending when in and around the action) then wouldnt you agree that playing him in midfield would be much better than playing him wide away from the thick of the action.
i thought a.n.r would of had alot to say today,nothing tho
Sabeel – to be correct it’s really “Happy First anniversary” at Arsenal, Andrey.
i think hes saving it for 2mo@BBK
RobTGoon – Myles hasn’t finished creaming himself off about Shrek yet. He’ll be dry by tomorrow and ready to write another ManIOU love in then.
yes tmrw bbk, then myles will write
“I TOLD YOU SO!”
ROONEY IS THE BEST, FERGIE IS A GENIUS!
ARSENAL ARE SHITE!
WENGER IS A STUBBORN OLD FOOL!
jospehene and eugine invited me to a gig last night at the rococo lounge in primrose hill, blah de blah de blah im going to suck my own cock now
by MYLES PALMER
Gee…
thats right chary,sorry
Arshavin,“Happy First anniversary” at Arsenal
Wengerball is working, if it wasnt for the way we play we wouldnt be anywhere near the top 4 with such average players. Which is the most frustrating thing cos we can all see if we just added 2/3 QUALITY players to what we have Wengerball would have us be challenging for the title. But Noooooooo
The 4-3-3 system is great and more sides are playing it all the time, I think Dudu should stay but could be more effective on the right or left of the main striker. The only problem with the 433 is you need a solid strong midfield triangle, With Denilson it is too weak. Fab and Song carry the midfield, Denilson is the weakest link (good bye). The 3 in midfield need to be able to play quick 1-2 passes with each other, be able to hold on to the boy and release their midfield partner at the right time. Song’s been doing that very well, but Crab man can make a 5 yard pass, and when he does its timed wrong and Cesc is under immense pressure. Another thing that pisses me off with Denilson, is when he plays the ball out wide (eg for Sagna or Clichy) why the fuck cant he pass it ahead of them, so many times they have to stop their run to collect a ball behind them. Grrrr
Mistakes of Denilson is making Almunia better…
Mistakes of Denilson is making Almunia look better…
I know Sabeel
i know sabeel
The despair has made me more of a pedant than usual SiG.
Yeah I agree Stu, he’s certainly more tenacious and throws himself into tackles more than most, but his overall workrate and defending overall isn’t great. I wouldn’t want him in the midfield three because he wouldn’t do the defensive work, we’d get even more caught out with teams breaking through the midfield. With Cesc and Diaby either side of Song I think we’ve got a good trio there, and Ramsey and Nasri I’d put into that three before Rosicky. It depends who else was playing though, if Cesc wasn’t playing then I think Rosicky could play there and we’d be ok. Still prefer him further up field though he needs to get involved more in the centre imo
Arse&Nose you missed out
“oh by the way, I’ve added a new full stop at the end of ‘The Professor’, please buy my book”
how is it going guys,i was mocked whole day at office by my manure,chav colleagues
gambon,chary
hopefully our mood will lighten up if hull help us out…this time league is so different,anyone can beat anyone..
2morror that is
mini hattrick
lol @A
A&N / A, you forgot
“I got home from a jazz gig in Camden and heard Jan upstairs moaning, i went upstairs & saw the window open & John Terry climing down the gutter naked”
I didn’t say I would ditch the 4-3-3. I said if we are going to play the 4-3-3 we have to do it properly. It doesn’t mean your front 4 can all knock off.
I like the 4-3-3 better, when its done properly.
I dont remember Den or song covering the full backs once this season! its not their job to be out on the touchline they are meant to protect the box. The full backs need help from the wide players, usually Arshavin and Rosicky but sometimes, Nik B, Theo and Nasri. Eboue is the only one who does the role anywhere close to what is required… but he sucks at attacking!
wenger lets Arshavin, Rosicky and Nasri get away with Murder.
same here@sabeel
My boss’ son is a spud and we got quite a few of them over here
How many of u are like me and keep pressing F5 on the BBC transfer page even though we know damn well the tight fisted git won’t spend a penny !
Jesus
This must be the first deadline day where no-one is talking about potential signings, we are resigned to the fact that we aint getting anyone.
Dont know if its a good or bad thing.
good ole JT, the man representing the hopes of our nation!
im on news now and skysports news@john A
Actually you know one player who chases back – Vela. He relly puts the effort and miles in every time I see him play in the left. I dont rate him as a centre forward for us, but as the left-wing type attacker I think he is really good. Also best crosser we have at the club.
Rob
it must be really tuf to work with ur boss son being spud..
is there any bias in workculture there in london,when it comes to work,like spuds not allowing gunners to come up,vicevera etc…
Not even a fecking rumour. How sad have we got !
I was really disappointed by Nasri and Rosicky yesterday. Those were the type of games we need them to shine in… Also, I don’t think Cesc has ever won us a match single-handedly with a masterclass against one of the big 4.
imo, RVP’s injury really fecked over our season.Him out there yesterday would have given us some more steel, spirit and determination. Cesc for all his qualities as a player, still doesnt cut it for me as a captain.
John A – yes, me too – not a snowballs chance of Wenger spending any of our money to do his job properly.
SiG – had a mank girl circling me all day at the office waiting to pounce. She’s enjoying it.
The spuds here are having a good giggle too.
yea gazzap, I really thought Vela would burst onto the scene this year. Sadly, whenver he has played, he has been off form.
chary
tell her something in ur half-punjabi,half-hindi..
tell her, teri *&*$*&*
she may take it as a compliment and thank u
best rumour from BBC’s live tranfer day text….
“My best mate’s brother is a taxi driver and he has just called me to say he has just dropped Michael Owen off at Anfield for a medical”
Yeah cause Michael Owen need sto get taxi’s these days!!!! They have chaufers when not driving themselves……
Trouble is SiG she’s a Pakistani – so would probably slap me one.
Oh well, only 15 minutes to go and then I can get my life back.
I’m just waiting to see the home crowds dwindling over the next month or so, especially after we get a pasting from the Chavs. Let’s see if the money grabbing b*stards that make up our board react to that !
Roll on next summer
here’s a rumour in the next 15 or so minutes arsenal will so noone
4-3-3 isnt working anymore because we dont have a proper player fit enough to play in the middle of the front 3 and we have too many lazy players.
We are one of the fittest teams in the league apparently but imo part of that is because we start so slow we have energy left at the end when the oppo are tired.
sign*
Trouble is SiG she’s a Pakistani – so would probably slap me instead.
rohan
Surely an injury to one player cant be the reason we have f*cked up. even with RVP there i think we would of got a draw considering our defensive frailties
Rohan:
Don’t lose too much sleep, Cesc won’t be here next year.
So all Wenger did in the transfer window, that lasts a month, is sign a free agent.
STU-We have still scored only 1 goal n the first 15 mins right?>
I wouldnt be suprised Mish.
*nishanth
After saying
“i have money and i will spend”
and
“i will get my business done early”
Wenger has swapped a 24 year old CB for a 35 year old CB who was a free agent and wouldve signed anything as he was so desperate to play.
Well, theres ambition for you.
I cant wait for him to “take his chequebook to the world cup”
5 mins left …
its NOW or NEVER
Did anyone else think Senderos looked a lot slimmer for Everton at the weekend than he did when he played for us.
I thought after atleast yesterday’s game we wou;d have signed a keeper.Almunia to start against chelsea!!!!
yes stu.. at least he kept a clean sheet..
I like the lad, hope he has a great career.
gambon you need to realise what Wenger says is NEVER as exact as that “i will get my business done early”!!
He NEVER said that, he said it would be beneficial to get business done as early as possible, but it all depends when things are possible, not “I will”.
With the chequebook thing if people are silly enough to consider that to mean that he’s definitely going to sign, then they deserve to be disappointed for their stupidity!!
Sabeel,
It’s NOW or AFTER 6 MONTHS…
Senderos did well for everton yesterday.Watched the second half and he looked pretty solid
I bet Denilson will start against chelsea as well. Players just never get dropped for bad performances at arsenal.
At other clubs a manager plays someone on form and drops then when they play badly. Here Wenger plays someone regardless of their form and even last season he dropped a player after he had finally hit form. Its fucking crazy.
(i was talking about Song being dropped for the FA cup semi btw)
well thats me for today, its been a pleasure lads.
feel a bit better now that i’ve let off some steam even though we wont sign anyone.
I still think we can nick something on sunday, like i said earlier karma still needs to pay terry a visit!
everybodys laughing at us. i,m scared to leave the house. title contenders with dennilson and almunia my local butcher said to me when i went in this morning. then he laughed his balls of with the rest of the costumers
Yes thats it…
10..9..8..7…6..5…4…3…2…..1…
TRANSFER WINDOW CLOSED
we signed some more board members..no REAL player
Rohan: about Cesc. The big four are the most powerful teams and therefore more easily out muscle our midfield. Cesc needs better quality protection. Alonso or a YaYa.You could see Cesc’s head go down yesterday as he realized there was fuck all he could do. I hate rugby, but it was a similar story with Johnny Wilkinson. At Newcastle he was the star player. He was targeted every game. He moved to a better team in France. The injuries stopped and he shone. Unless we sign real quality to protect him, he will, and should, join Barca.
is that after senderos got bullied by JASON SCOTLAND
wow..i timed it well ….exactly at 5pm
A
I know but its no fun if you dont bend things a little!
& Cheers for calling me stupid!
Stu I reckon if Diaby is fit then he’ll play, otherwise there’s no alternative to Denilson. Ramsey isn’t there yet, certainly not defensively. Denilson has done pretty well against Chelsea in the past, with the way they pass the ball through the middle he’s useful there anyways, though if Diaby’s fit he has to start.
According to financial advisers Deloitte, an estimated £21 million has been spent in this window – compared to £170 million in 2009 and £150 million in 2008.
I didn’t call YOU stupid gambon!!
Are you using software Sabeel
BBK.. he kept a clean sheet!
Should have sneezed on all the meat then NN. That’ll teach him to be a prick.
Well, no signings. Says everything. Stubborn manager. Unambitious board. Clearly happy to play for 3rd/4th. Unfuckingbelievable.
“the fans will be reassured by what they see”
Next day we sell Hleb & sign Bischoff!
Must have been BBK.He didn’t make any mistakes in that second ha;f
A&N that was really funny about palmer.
frichie
Ha ha ha Mate,
No mate,i dont use any program,its only a Misunderstanding
proof are my posts are here,
A-You said the same thing about denilson ahead of the manchester united game.You said that this type of games suits his game.
there’s actually a rumour on newsnow
A, you basically implied that anyone who gets thir hopes up when Wenger talks about chequebooks and players that they are stupid. You owe Gambon an apology.
How in Gods name can that french fuck not sign a single player in a whole year (Except a free sol) Leave my club you clueless dumb prick!!!!
Gago to Man City for €16m???!!!
moses gone to wigan
mccarthy to westham
Mido to westham on load
Shorey to Fulham on loaf
get a grip a. dennilson should be nowhere near the chelsea match. are you insane
yeah i know nisanth, it usually does! Though it was so stretched in the end after they went ahead that it really didn’t after that
Does the window close at 5 or 6?
Chelsea are all about power. They dont play good football. Denilson would get mauled by them if he didnt have Song fighting behind him.
Although, the chavs are pretty show themselves so at least Denilsons lack of pace wouldnt be too exposed.
GoonerM; and the rumour is???? David Villa perhaps!
Actually it’s not even a rumour it’s bollocks.
No Stu! I said that anyone who believes someone having their cheque book with them guarantees that he’s going to buy is naive at best!
Goonermichael:
5, but WTF
Weve re-signed Bischoff, €14m plus add ons.
Celtic is picking up Robbie Keane…its on espn
5 in the UK GM.
A
I respect a lot of what you say but a youth team player or 10 men are better than lego head
closes at 5 gm.
I dunno about that Stu – Chelsea are a very narrow team, try and pass through the middle of the pitch, and that suits Denilson very well. Also as you say they aren’t a pacy team, nor a countering team, so Denilson’s slowness shouldn’t be too costly
Ramsey should definitely start ahead of denilson.If diaby is available he will start otherwise denilson will continue.I think we should play ramsey as a part of the front 3.I think he will do well there.He will be a lot more involved than nasri
Though as Diaby was nearly fit for Utd he really should be for Chelsea, though you never know with him!
the funniest transfer story has to be Westham signing Mido. The last time hammers saw him play they chanted terrorist at him, what a fickle bunch.
Fucked up big time,you not only have to keep your fans happy,you have to keep your top players happy,they want to play with the best,Fab will be on his way lively.Well done Arsehole[sorry Arsene].
I’ve got an idea that might work. How about playing with a striker. I know it’s a bit weird but it might work
A-Denilson will get outmuscled by the chelsea midfield.And that idiot can’t even pass.I can’t believe even after his performance yesterday you don’t have a problem with him starting
Chelsea don’t play through the middle.. thats us.
They are a world class version of stoke.
poor ramsey,didnt get to play…he is ahead of denilson for me even before the game..
chelsea will pick on sagna again and cross it to drogba who will then proceed to put the ball in the net,then cole will cross it again from sagna’s side and vern will score another o.g,then on about the 80th minute mark cesc will bring down malouda,get the free kick,score and make it 3-0.DEJAVUVU
how can celtic afford keane while we buy fukall. small club with no ambition wengers turned us into
He wasn’t that bad yesterday nisanth, everyone was crap, he was no worse than most imo.
So Lampard, Ballack, Cole don’t get involved at all choy?
So frustrating, i did wonder if Wenger might swallow some pride and sign some of the players he has no doubt had “some” contact with over the window, I dont expect a 30mil signing but if some of the proposed deals were over say 5 a million difference I thought he may take the punt.
GM
r u crazy,
wenger will Never play a striker in place of marmites…
A – Chelsea have both Anelka & Drogba, seen as we couldn’t handle Rooney or Nani’s pace what chance do we have against those two who are quicker??
Brian ‘my sources tell me’ swanson can stick his daft computer up his arse. I can’t believe I thought his late “exciting transfer news” was going to involve arsenal. I might have known it would be about that nomadic pikey robbie keane.
Wenger & Cesc:
As is certain we win nothing, its very likely Fabregas will leave in the summer with possibly AA angling for a move too.
If Wenger CANT now win anything nor keep a player like Fabregas, then he should move upstairs or leave, as sad as it will be.
Yes they do.. but they’re more effective through crosses and balls over the top.
They have drogba, who I think will single handedly end our title challenge sadly
Along with clichy he was our worst player yesterday.Did you see his tracking back for the second goal?Or his brilliant first touch for the third goal?Most of the times he passed forward he gave the ball away.Also nearly scored a brilliant own goal!!!
Yesterday’s result would have made Wenger more determined not to sign anyone. He will not give up with this project until he is either sacked or just gets too old to do the job anymore.
A day after another horrific goalkeeping display, arsenal.com tell us our best prospect is staying on loan for the season at Brentford. Will they ever learn!!
I wouldn’t say that they’re quicker than Rooney GMR…. Rooney is very quick, though it wasn’t his pace that fucked us, it was the pace of their whole team. They’re a quick, counter attacking team, Chelsea really aren’t, so wouldn’t catch us in the same way.
Chelsea will bully us to score, not counter attack
ANOTHER BARREN SEASON LOOMS
A – I don’t agree, aside from Nani & Rooney Man utd had nobody with any pace on the pitch. Chelsea have plenty of pace especially from the full backs. Also they aren’t playing as narrow now because Joe Cole is back in the team.
Choy wins quote of the day for me “Chelsea are a world class stoke” haha its so true, and that’s why we will lose
I found it funny that one on one Rooney couldn’t outsprint Song yesterday. Song has become an excellent player, if he had pace he’d go on to be the best defensive midfielder in the world.
You can’t have a transfer window without robbie keane moving somewhere. It’d be like xmas without the turkey.
You dont need to have lots of pace to counter attack!
We COULD be a fantastic counter attacking team, if we actually let other teams play and defended as a team, and instead of poor clearances from a defence and keeper we might get a ball out the back quickly.
What ever happened to Wenger using a stop watch to time how fast we could get the ball from our box to the other end of the pitch. Seems he has given up on that.
Season 2009/2010 RIP
Thanks very much u arrogant tight fisted b*stard !
Now why don’t u just feck off and take your shite love children with you !!!
this weekend i have finally lost all respect for wenger.the story that tipped me over the edge was when he claimed he had tried to sign chamakh and villa,the two players you didn`t have a chance of signing.you mugged of bordeaux earlier in the year with a pathetic bid and when they laughed in your face you smuggly implied you would wait till the summer!why would valencia sell villa mid season to arsenal,why?you had no chance of getting either but ithink you knew that but it keeps the fools that hang out of your backside happy eh arsene.you have now started insulting peoples intelligence and it`s time to go.lastly, i would just like to wish cesc good luck next season with barcelona,i hope your successful!
GMR Utd have played like that all season though, catching teams on the break, it’s part of their game plan….
Chelsea aren’t that sort of team, and havn’t been doing it all season. Granted Cole drifts around, but it isn’t the same as playing quick wide men
A – Admittedly Chelsea were playing a very narrow game earlier this season, Ancelotti changed it when they had that poor run of results & now their performances are much better, along with results. Joe Cole has been a major factor in that.
Man utd have played their system for years, the difference between us is that Ferguson values experience & allows the younger players to learn from Scholes & Giggs etc. It just doesn’t happen at Arsenal and it’s why we have too many young players that just don’t know how to defend or to hold a lead.
Clichy v/s that bastard Joe Cole!Cole would be licking his lips now.
It dosnt matter whether they play on the break or not they still done the double over us and exposed our limitations!!
As a fan for over 30 years and season ticket holder for over 9 seasons, I have given Arsene more than enough time to be judged, although I have held this view for the last year or so…and last night proved it to me. The following players were not, are not and will not be good enough to play for Arsenal: Almunia, Eboue, Song, Denilson. Along with others ofcourse,they all played their sorry part again yesterday. Clichy got raped, Sagna was poor and has been for a while…we got shown up and that’s not right. THIS IS ARSENAL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrhyzY0zZUc
How’s this to sum up the last 4 years?
here’s me playing devils advocate lol….Arsenal Action have started petition on their site for wenger to go, what do you think the ratio for and aganst him moving would be if it was done here?
and should one be done on this site now?
after failing to address our weaknesses and a 5th year without a single trophy is looming?
Why do City want Adam Johnson, and why would he go there?! Will he even make the bench on a regular basis?!
No news?
No news is bad news!!
If you need anymore incentive to why we Arsene has to go ( even if i’m not one that wants that to happen ) watch the video! TRUST ME!
A: £60,000 a week perhaps!!
The reality of yesterday has sunk in..
It couldve been 5 or 6 goals.
Im quite happy it stopped at just 3.
Gooner B11, I wouldn’t want to lower this site to something like that.
This article got backlinked by Republic of Mancunia today… the shame of it…
Well what an anticlimatic tranfer window that was.
With Wanker…sorry I mean Wenger openly stating that we need reinforcements, especially up front, I actually thought that he might sign someone, since our 1 AND ONLY STRIKER is out for the season.
I know, I can hear u saying that we’ve got more than 1.
Well, Eduardo is nowhere near ready to step up to the mark following his return from injury.
And Bendtner is and will never be good enough to play for Arsenal.
And as for all the other under age midgets, well they can bugger off for all I care.
Boy I’m so depressed, I just want to hear breaking news on SSN that Wenger has stepped down due to the fact that he has mislaid his bollocks !
Still gutted about the result but Vek Cheered me up quite a bit when he said…
“Nasri played like a little fat ponce”
sometimes it’s the small things.
Fucks sake
AA23, is Nasri the David Brent of premier league football?
Geoff/Pedro
Can i suggest you get hold of the guys at Arsenal Action, any weight we can add to this petition could be useful.
If enough people sign this the board would have to take notice.
A – johnson went for one reason: Money. City can afford a cash deal and Johnson gets a 100% pay rise. As a meerkat once said ‘simples’.
As for the transfer window, why are you all so insular, look around at what is happening around you. No-one knows what the ‘true value of a player’ is anymore, until the market corrections from the double digit percentage increases is allowed to happen. Chairmen are no longer sure what these assets are worth, and so clubs with big debt profiles need to exercise prudence before paying out.
Concluding that you have not bought anyone, as you have neither the funds nor the will to extend the overdraft to accomodate such a move.
Whilst not winning anything won’t win over the fans, not buyng any new players will at least ensure financial security until this correction has happened.
It is amazing how selective you all are in believing the lies that you want to, and not the one’s you don’t.
Just be thankful that liverpool have been so bad that 3rd is nailed on (barring an absolute disaster – for which I still keep fingers crossed).
so pedro what do you think the needs to happen because fans f-ing and blinding on blogs and basically arguing between ourselves isn’t gonna do anything at this point? it seems alot of people including myself are feeling very sour about the where the club has gone over the last 5years…..any suggestions?
Judge him in May!
Arsenal action have always wanted Wenger out. The only time they ever get any comments is when they badmouth Wenger.
Wanting him fired is one thing but the way they go on you’ld think Wenger killed their parents.
Havent been on there in months because their hatred for him is just too much to take regardless of his madness.
I cant imagine hwhat they do after we win, probably cut themselves or something.
I always wondered why we had the Annual General Meeting very early this year.
Like a fucking petition is going to do anything either. What do they expect. To show it to the arsenal board and they just go “ho hum, if its what the fans want, its what the fans shall get”.
Wenger aint going anywhere because he saves the club money.
Stu,do you want Wenger out or not?
Stu,
What happens if the fans stop showing up?
You’d find many more people who’d sign a petition for Wenger to stay anyways! Will do nothing, it’s just a silly unimportant internet thing.
We don’t want a petition to sack Wenger, we want a petition to know the truth!
We have been kept in the dark for too long, one minute we say there is 30m to spend the next minute we say the opposite.
If we are financially fucked we deserve to know.
A
Maybe if Wenger got wind that the fans were not happy he would end this silly personal experiment.
Official – Begovic to Stoke for 3.25M, hell of a bargain
and City got Johnson and Rafa signed another unknown player who will flop
A petition on the internet wouldn’t show that at all gambon, and of course it wouldn’t either!
A manager is employed to use his judgement and make decisions that he believes is the best way to do things. He should never do things differently to what he considers the best way, because of what other people think. If he loses faith in his own decision making that he considers the fans, media, or ANYONE else when making decisions then he’s no longer fit to be in that position imo.
Can I just say one thing, and I can’t beleive I’m going to say this, but ‘Whinger out’? You lot collectively off your rocker.
I may severly dislike the myopic, insincere, ungracious, arrogant man. But he is the best manager you possibly have ever had and may well be for some time.
So you haven’t won anything for a while well boo-hoo, you have no divine right to do so just like the rest of us. But since when has a change of manager in the last five years yeilded a short-term fix (by which I mean silverware in the first few years) without adding significant (i.e. more than you have at your disposal) cash?
So change him, and see what that gets you. FFS have you learnt nothing from the revolving door at our gaff, successive managerial changes have led to an incosistent (and sometimes non-existent) transfer policy that has taken over a season to rectify. And we’re still well off the pace for breaking ‘top 4′ (and don’t let our current position delude anyone, on form it won’t be us).
What am I saying? Yeah, Whinger out, where do I sign up.
And you call us lot fickle!
So City are going to be the new Chelsea, buy up relatively talented young English players for an inflated fee, never play them, then return them to their actual level a couple of years later with their development stifled!
A
So why did he have such an epiphany in 2004/5.
We went from being an experienced, big, strong, quick & SUCCESSFUL team to being the exact opposite.
If he thinks thats the best way of doing things his ability to do the job is compromised.
So it seems either way he isnt fit to do the job he’s paid to do, hence its time to walk.
Who did Rafa sign Alex?
Vasilis Torosidis from Olympiakos
If come the end of the season we do as so many people are predicting, come third at best, knocked out of the champs league etc, then it’s time for Wenger either to leave, or change policy.
It would be ridiculous for him to walk or be sacked now though, a week ago we were being hyped up as the team to beat ffs!
For the last few seasons, aside from my season ticket I refuse to spend any money at the ground. No shirts, no programmes, no food, no beer. From small acorns…
A right back, chum of kyriakos
Big Phil made a few mistakes and was frozen out ..
Denilson and Almunia make mistakes in every match and get to play ..
Are we ever gonna play with wingers?
Has wenger lost it?
a text from my Chav mate summed it up really:
‘oh fuck’
no goading, just compassion…
so let me ask another question then?
How long is everyone prepaired to except what is going on at the club, alot time has passed, players have come and gone, our rivals are winning trophy after trophy…..we’ve done nothing in that time, we only challenge for two trophies these days, but what next?
We can laugh about shitty all we want but, if we get nothing out of Stamford bridge and they will all their games.. they are right up there!
We’ve never played with wingers before so I’d hope not SFO!
!
Honestly i dont want Wenger fired. He is the best man for the job, because we want to play the best football AND win trophies. He can do that if he had someone who didnt agree with everything he says. SOmeone to challenge him.
Since Dein has left Wenger has been too easy on his players. Noone questions Wenger anymore and thats why we dont buy players when the team clearly needs them.
Im not saying Dein is the answer but someone who can work with Wenger and show him where he is going wrong. We need different kind of players, more physical ones like we had when we last won a few trophies.
And we could di with someone to force Wenger into buying players he rates, even if we have to pay that little extra to get them. We have the money now, thanks to Wenger being tight over the years. now is the time to spend it. AW is stuck in a rut of not wanting to over spend, someone needs to give him a kicking and get him back on track.
Either that or just fuck off..
I don’t agree there at all Stu. Wenger is either the right man for the job, or he isn’t. As soon as you say Wenger, but being forced to do this or that that he wouldn’t have done by himself, he’s no longer the right man for the job, or the job isn’t something that any manager would be prepared to do.
*win
A right back? Whats the point of that when Degan if flying it for them right now.
In pri evo i bought Torosidis in my Masterleague for Atletico. If PES is anything to go by (and it clearly is) then they have a good fullback there. He is pretty tall and can play left back if needed. Good buy imo..how much did he cost?
A, why should Wenger make all the decisons by himself. Shouldnt he have help if its necessary. He clearly rates a lot of players out there but doesnt want to spend more than he thinks they are worth. It doesnt work like that. You have to pay the market value or as close as possible to what the club are asking for.
ha ha Stu, that’s a classic.
you start out really reasonable: “Honestly i dont want Wenger fired. He is the best man for the job”
and you wind yourself up slowly to the end “Either that or just fuck off..”
h aha. classic.
The worrying thing is that, under the terms of our sponsor contracts, I believe we already ARE spending 40% (or something) of our player sales money – problem is that its all been spunked on giving our undermotivated squad undeserved wage hikes – well, I suppose we have to compensate them for the lack of trophy win bonuses.
Yeah I read somewhere it’s just to cover for Johnson whilst he’s out. Has it actually happened?? Can’t see confirmation of it, though they said earlier it was happening
David Dein, that’s what’s missing from the picture…
is it a coincidence that we have won fuck all since he left?
is it fuck…
no stu, wenger shouldn’t need anybody beside him to motivate him into making sure this club isn’t stale…..which right now it is, there are managers out there with a footballing phylosophy, how is it barca went from raijkaard to now guardiola….wenger is too stuborn at this stage to let anyone move him, infact the more you tell him to go right the more he forces left so to speak
i dont want wenger my self i knew from the start jan market it was going be extremly difficult to get striker niether david villa or that mrocan striker were going moving in jan of all times,i feel we have realy cb in gallas vm cambell dj is back in around 7 weeks,our midfield is pretty good we diaby and and song who i feel dm players evon though he play much further up i would prefer to delinson we could do with another beast there we have huge amount creative attacking midfielders that are small but very quick and mobile thats why i think we need another beast, our striking otions edwardo vela breta aa thoe are more than enough to score yes a target man who ismore proven that bretna i would have liked.without dought there areas they need adress mostly top class keeper i feel they need to be a little but more clued on there tackticks cant leave them selves so wide open.wenger will continue to blood young players some will cut it and some wont.alot fans may think nuts but dont think its all doom and gloom wenger did not sign a striker lets not forget this team has been with rvp for while they 1st 2nd top scores in prem
Wenger is employed to make decisions Stu. He has to have freedom to make all decisions that fall under his duties by himself. He can seek advise from his assistant, as I’m sure he does, but when a manager is forced to do something against his will, is when a club starts to go to shit, and managers walk!
haha Moray, its both sides of the coin. I want Wenger to get us back on track but when we lose because of his team selections and when i hear his excuses i just want to strangle him.
Suga, coincidences apparently dont exist. But then again we havent won anything since Vieira last kicked a ball for us either.
We dont win things anymore because we dont have any winners in the team. Players that are hungry for victory at any cost. Too many footballer, not enough winners imo..
A,
you don’t pay your manager top dollar for winning fuck all, destroying the image of the club in the process…
the way we went downhill from 2006 is nothing short of disgraceful – yes, we make profit, but there are enough fixtures to kick us out of top four in the run in: saying that Shitty and even Spuds away are ‘easy games’ is laughable…
then what? no CL money, squeaky bum time for the penny wise pound foolish board with bunch of shit players on undeserved exorbitant long term contracts and best players leaving
yes, I know it’s Murphy’s law based scenario
yeah leon that’s ok! we’ve done well up untill this point but like andy murrey in the tennis final yesterday, when you face your rivals what ever weaknesses you have will be exposed and quite frankly it’s too late to do anything about it….in short this isn’t about player specifics anymore, what was blatently obvious from last night is how much neglect there has been with this team, are they taught how to defend at all? i really don’t think so. Alot of defensive coaching is needed with this crop we weren’t a unit last night
I’m looking for a new motor, my peugoets packed in(french)…anyone got any recommendations for a good ,reliable 2nd hand car make?
Stu,
that is why I have been crying out for a few dobermans and pitbulls to mix with less ferocious kinds for this team…
Mug comment!! No wingers, WTF were Limpar, Overmars and Marwood then, defensive miffielders?? Whatvis it with you, you just like disagreeing yo generate an argument..z
Well yeah SUGA, so if that happens then Wenger is gone the second the season ends…. If we don’t end up very close to winning either the title or Champs league at the end of the season, then I’d expect him to either walk, or change policy.
You employ a manager to do his best to bring success to the club. You don’t tell a manager how he should bring success, that’s my point. You judge him on results, not on whether he goes about trying to get the results the same way you would. You sack a manager based on the results too, not whether the way he’s gone about getting them is what you would’ve done.
stu i dont thinkit had bad team selection but do think manu wanted it more than use that was very clear they were determined and worked alot harder and showed alot caricktor i just hope they can put more of fight put all on the line win or lose against chelsea may be need a british steel i dont know
Seek advice from his assistant A? I doubt Rice has ever disagreed with Wenger, certainly if he has it hasnt been in the last few years.
Rice strikes me as another Yes man, and a great listener.
How often has something gone wrong on the pitch, the camera goes to Wenger who is sitting beside Rice. He holds out his right arm complaining to Pat. Rice then gets up and shouts at someone on the pitch, or just sits there shaking his head.
OK so you cant tell Wenger what to do but having a stronger no.2 wouldnt hurt. Someone to tell Wenger he is doing something wrong. Keown would be perfect for that. He comes across is opinionated and very smart on MOTD and he certainly knows how to defend. Get that ugly fucker next to Wenger on a match day and see our club back challenging for honours.
It certainly cant make things worse can it!
A,
you cannot have the almighty manager to tie us down and have no one to contest his views…
he needs a new no.2, if we were to promote from within, I would put Bouldy in there…
gooner they need something if they defend like that at stanford bridge could be 5-0
leon,
sorry mate, but you’re talking bollocks, no offence…
yes, the team selection was fucking shit and cowardly – why Denilson in the mid and not Rosicky? why not let Eboue start to kick the shit out of that cunt Evra?
Nasri was pathetic – what exactly was his position again? and don’t even get me started on this shitcunt Denilson: if he was a racehorse, he would be fucking shot…
Its wasnt the selection yesterday leon. His annoying team selections have been happening since last season.
Eboue anywhere but right back? Denilson as defensive midfielder, Diaby left wing last season. Its hasnt and wont work playing teams full of players in the wrong places.
Dropping Arshavin and Song for the FA cup semi? What the fuck was that? (And dont blame the pitch A).
I’m in class and decided to see what was going on. As expected….nothing.
I just realised that there will be some decent managers available after the World Cup this summer…I have a sneaking suspicion about Marcelo Lippi. He’s had a hard-on about managing in the UK and Ferguson ain’t retiring any time soon…
Afternoon All..
i really cant believe that anyone can defend wenger’s very poor decision making…and anyone who stands up for him…must be fans who are more that happy for Arsenal to stay where we are…a decent club without any plans or determination to be among the best…
and A…You where one of the many fans who was pretty sure of a signing or two in this window..even wenger was…and be honest…accepting wengers statement that there isnt any better players out there,than what we have…well thats bollocks..wenger never intended to buy anyone..not in the summer and certainly not in this window..what wenger wants is only piece and quiet to see this youth experiment through…
wengers position in our club isnt helathy at all…he is more or less a dictator..and they usually fall…which i hope wenger do too…very soon..
with wenger we are a lost club…with no intention of winning anything..no goals whatsoever..just a fancy club for uninterested fans…a family project much like disneyland..all cosy..looks nice….never any risktaking and money making far more important than success…i would go so far as to say Arsenal has become a club much more interested in moneymaking than achieving success on the pitch..and i tell you all this is a very dangerous game wenger is playing…
wenger out…full stop…
That petition on Arsenal Analysis is really gathering momentum theres 8 names on it now and none of them have used there real names!
DDM
yea i was going to say wasnt Overmars a winger?
Suga
“this shitcunt Denilson”
you’re not wrong
What really gets to me…is the Sagna and Clichy crosses who are attrocious enough..but then they have the easy task of hitting a 5ft 4 inch Arshavin.
Its a joke.
stu – suga i would agree on delinson for fa cup game i would undestand if he did play them at all but he he no song or eboue because they were away ,diaby was injured sagna was injured so he had no right back no bretna at the timesorry dont get it no diaby no song alot of the players needed a breather but in sencond half he had aa fab edwardo may be missing some thing what else could wenger have done with all injuries he had and game in the week,as for the game on sunday the team he had out besides delinson was very strong selection but there aws nothing manu worked harder and wanted far more than use
David,
exactly: why leave your only tall player on the bench?
not saying that B52 is the saviour, as to have him as your ONLY striker is a bit like playing russian roulette with 5 bullets, but he could make a difference…
and then you have a dumb fuck formerly peroxided bimbo in goal who just hoofs the ball in the general direction of AA…
ddm – i meant under wenger. No i wouldn’t consider Overmars a winger, he was a wide forward, drifted inside and scored goals through the middle, hardly hugged the touchline, and played on the left whilst being right footed.
SUGA it was blatently obvious Bendtner wasn’t fit to start! He was ridiculously unfit when he came on!
leon,
if you have a bunch of identical players, technically superior, but physically inferior to most of what is in front of them, then you tend to have injuries and fatigue…
yes, it’s that simple – yet Wenger is trying to prove that the Earth is fucking flat…
A
You judge him on results
You sack a manager based on the results too
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based on your rational then wenger should have gone along time ago ?!
even before Ramos !
judging by all the BS banter i take it we didnt sign ANYONE ?@!
A,
yes, but you have to play with what you have, but we are so tactically limited, it’s unbelievable…
then again, do I give a fuck? OGL knew he had no fit strikers, yet he went and bought some kid, whom we will not see for the next 2 years or so: during that time, he may as well have his legs broken, get shot or whatever…
now, given our position, would you rather have Kenwyne Jones fit to start at SB or not?
we will get the same at the bridge and we will deserve it…….can not wait 4 zero and the SPUDS AND TITY will over take us.
and only then will something happen to that pratt AW.
To start at stamford bridge?? absolutely not. I wouldn’t mind him being on the bench as a plan B, but I’d rather Arshavin started there centrally than Jones.
Ermm…A,
Overmars was an out and out Winger.
Which Winger doesnt cut inside midfield? Sorry?
We obviously have a different definition of what a “winger” is David.
For me it’s someone who provides width, hugs the touchline, hits the byline and crosses.
‘to start’ was just an unfortunate figure of speech
so, A, now you wouldn’t mind Jones?
thank you
Suga
its a sad state of affairs…
Its a really sad state of affairs…
We got found out in a big way. Nothing’s changed from CL last year.
suga i dont realy believe that he got ade and bretna diaby and song in midfield yes they could with a another beast the manu players are not that big either,size has nothing to with it its heart determination team work all of which were missing for this and all which were evident in the manu team they deserved to this game and they have showing these chararitsts the whole season arsenal have sometimes but not enough for me
Yeah SUGA, I wouldn’t want us to sign him over umpteen other forwards, but I’d take more or less anyone as an extra option, even if they aren’t very good! Not at the price that Sunderland would want for Jones though.
David,
I really hoped to be proven wrong and made to come on LG and state in capitals that sun shines out of OGL’s arse, I really did
when we were beating some shit sides, some on here creamed their pants – I have been saying all along that we are beating nobodies and will get found out, given that we were lucky a few times against some mugs…
not result wise, but there were a few worrying signs of no defensive cohesion, when the other strikers blasted it high/wide, and you can’t allow players like Shrek and Drogshit a single chance like that – simple!
they are odds on to score and their teams defend better…
if bendtner was the reason he didnt sign a new striker then why was he sitting on the bench?….because he still isnt fit……then how is he a good reason to not by a striker. by the time he is match fit we will have played the chavs and pool and man shitty could be up our arse trying to take over 3rd place.
pathetic!
Haaa;
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leon,
it’s not heart or determination – how can you play a good passing game with Denilson in the mid?
if I was Cesc, I would go to Wenger and tell him not to play this cunt ever again or he will walk, ffs…
fuck ‘camaraderie’, you want that, go on fucking holiday…
For me i think the team lets the occasion get to their heads…
If it wasnt the name Utd…if it was some random team in Europe we wouldve destroyed them even if we were 1-0 down.
We lost our patience and just sent everyone forward…thats exactly what happnd in the CL semifinal.
We had all but 90 minutes to work around the goal and with some Arshavin magic but we wanted that cake there and now.
That is down to bad management imo.
We patiently worked our way out of the Everton debacle.
So why lose and give Utd that much more confidence?
Team of bottlers? I dont think so. Theyre being badly mismanaged.
This is him;
David I agree with the first part and disagree with the second part of that post! Against the big teams we do bottle it totally, the mentality of the team is different when we go a goal down, we lose our heads, lose composure etc.
However I don’t consider that to be ANYTHING to do with coaching and management you can see from other games that the players have been coached and know what they should be doing, they just can’t handle the pressure in the big game, and that can only be down to a lack of confidence, or experience, and as a collective, not individually.
Bees extend Szczesny loan till end of season…
Fabregas believes that we need to beat Chelsea to get back into the title race…….with this team it’d be hell of a turnaround if that happened. if we do…..its gonna be a turning point in the title race….because ManU will definately drop points in the season at some time point. i know i’m being a bit too positive esp. with the spanking we had from ManU.
i’m totally gutted after that match. i turned the tv off after the 1st half because i knew it was going to be a repeat of the champions league semi-final last season…demoralising! Wenger’s failure to plug the gaps (CF, DM, CB, GK) has hurt us big time and i fear he will wait for the youth players frm the academies to mature which means more barren years await for us fans. I doubt the board will sack Wenger – they’r happy with this marriage….making record profits and paying off their debt really fast.
A,
how the fuck does this wank mentality not have anything to do with management and coaching?
if you can’t deliver motivation speeches, get yourself a hairdryer man of a shrink…
A
We went a goal down twice against Everton and didnt lose our heads…we worked patiently back into the game
That has feck all to do with experience because theyve been there before…and learnt nothing.
That is mismanagement it has to be.
A,
‘they just can’t handle the pressure in the big game’
does that translate to ‘bottlers’?
i have said it before and i will say it again we NEED a defensive coach.
what ever the bbc are paying keown double it even tripple it ffs and get him on the training ground everyday drilling the back 5 and song.
leon osman being free to score a header and then on the next corner they got being totally free and un marked again shows a lack of coaching…even arshavin being put in the wall for drogbas freekick at home shows it too.
you dont have to choose one or the other when it comes to beautiful football and a good defence, you can have both.
its unbelievable when you think about it this is the same club and manager that set a then prem record of conceeding the least amount of goals when we did the double in 98…the same club and manager who gave us the invincibles….WTF has happened to that attitude and desire?
How could it be mis management?!
From the games like the Everton one, it’s proven that the players know HOW they’re supposed to act in certain situations.
In the massive games, they just don’t have the composure and lose their heads, I don’t see what anyone can do to change that, apart from the players themselves.
The more big games they play in the more used to it they’ll be, and the less they’re lose their heads.
Suga, David. I have to agree!!!
hello guys!
fucking depressing situation we are into
Maybe Wenger needs to get in an Eileen Drury to deal with the players
A
Alot can be done to change that. Teams nowadays have phsyciatrists who handle such matter. Even a strong Team Talk not the I have believe and we have mental strength bullshit, would do a world of good.
U see even the players know that Arsene is selling them bag loads of bull. They dont believe him and dont take much notice of what he says in such sitiuations.
Why??? Because they know he’s fulla shit!!!
Ethat woulda been proud of that post!
Arsenal to me and maybe its cos i got me gooner blinkers on but to me the goals we conceed are ones that if you were to replay them to a panel of pundits etc but blank out the shirts and player faces most of those pundits would probably go ‘they look like an arsenal type of goal to conceed’
its deja vu over & over again but no one is learning.
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A,
sorry mate, but I am one of the ruthless kind – can’t stand the heat, get out of the fucking kitchen, simple as…
what is essentially wrong with this club is that the players at most levels are too young, which results in winning fuck all – Denilson should be playing Reserve League football, so should Traore…
yes, the yutes won the lot last season, and typically, the successful side got dismantled and some of the players got promoted to first team to play in CC, where they hit the brickwall like Shitty…
what good does it do to their mentality?
this system breeds losers, not winners
Huh Mr B? I think you’re getting post match interviews mixed up with team talks!
Team talks are overrated imo, unless teams aren’t putting in 100%, which is rare.
This one sounds like Wenger
after liverpool and chelsea spank these bottlers the stadium will be half empty any how. these bottlers have never won a big important match and never will. wenger out . groundhog season year after year with the same players bottling the same matches. new manager and new team.utd proved yesterday that these arsenal players dont have winners mentality. time to rebuild with a new manager
A,
‘team talks are overrated’
tell that to those who went to Anfield
this lot needs a serious toe up their arses – the carrot didn’t work, did it?
time to grab the stick and whack the shit out of donkeys like Denilson…
sorry suge what isaw pitterful no tracking back nasri risicky disintersted no fab tried delinson well to slow to weak manu awanted more than them thats why they won the defended as a team they attacked as a team we did not
What A you think his team talks are any different.
Like he tell Denilson to try harder and Almunia that he’s a total fuck up.
The one time he did, we found out about it. A are u a Girl??? your very gulible arent you!
The loss to chelsea was the same way…
I understand its a young team but i really felt we played like champions when we played everton bar a couple of obvious fuck ups in the team (Denilson and CocO)
That has to be taught..yelled…screamed…shown…suggested…actuallywe missed Diaby in midfield…honestly…hed have given a bit composure to the midfield…
But it goes without saying when our CB have to fill the void of CF things become beyond a joke.
My gf supports Utd and after the 3rd she said she found herself praying they dont score another.
just read LGs blog on news now. total shite
leon,
it’s hard to get motivated, when essentially you know you are going to win fuck all…
fighting for top four is no fun when you’re younger, it’s a pensioner’s job…
Mike – I agree with what you have said. Individually our defenders are ALL good players but they just cannot defend as a unit. Adams or Keown or both would sort that out.
Then all wqe need is somebody to replace Denilson as he is utter rubbish and a striker to replace RVP when he gets injured again.
Apart from that, we’d have a team able to compete.
I see no problem with the rest of our team (oops, apart from Fawlty Manuel).
Yesterday they had far too much respect for UTD and they just didn’t close them down, the way they did with us.
Cesc is as good or better than anyone they have, same with RVP. If we had a better defence, then we would have much more confdience as a team. When you are confident, you plays better. Simples.
Seven goals conceded in last 3 home games. I don’t think so any championship winning team did that before.
Why don’t board sack the mummy Pat Rice and put a defensive coach as a second coach. That will put Wenger in his position.
great work in the window arsene, one or two players thats all we ask for,,,give these pussies something to think about and some competition for places, are you really that much of an arrogant man, unreal.You need a long holiday away from football, bunker mentality or what, mentalist.
make no mistake the fans are being taken for mugs by this club and some of us can see this but amazingly there are still fans who can`t see past the clubs blatant lies and bullshit and for me those fans are giving encouragement to the club to carry on taking the piss.i just don`t think they understand football,those fans should follow cricket or rugby!
maurya
Exactly, i cant actually believe ive been saying this for 3 years now, but until our defence improves vastly we will win nothing.
At the start of the season we were conceeding silly goals, and i kept on saying it would cost us, and various people were saying it doesnt matter as most of them were conceeded when we were cruising.
Well now its come back to haunt us.
I cant honestly fathom if Wenger genuinely thinks a team that conceed as easily as we do can win anything, but i can only assume he does, as he isnt doing anything to rectify it.
sorry suga i dont agree with that before this game they were 1-2 points behind manu and i thought they real chance win this game and i know they did for sure if they had lost say against sunderald and it was in middle feb but this was huge manu game the timing of the loss could not have come at worst time i know manu and chelsea will drop a few points but not two many.do i think they have abaility chelsea without question. i think they can any worse than sunsday so lets hope they snap out of it well off to work
So who do you guys think we will buy in the next transfer window ?
lol paul, good joke.
This is spot on:
Former Arsenal favourite Perry Groves believes yesterday’s 3-1 home defeat against Manchester United proves the Gunners are no closer to winning the title than they were 12 months ago.
Arsene Wenger’s men are now five points behind leaders Chelsea and four points behind second-placed United but defeat at Chelsea next weekend could all but end their challenge for the Premier League crown for another season.
Groves said: “They (Arsenal) are as far away from Chelsea and Manchester United as they were this time last year.
“The thing that disappointed me was that Manchester United out-desired Arsenal – the desire to stop the opposition from playing and impose yourself on the players you are playing against.
“The biggest damning stat that I saw after the game showed that United made 36 tackles and Arsenal made 18.”
And Groves believes United won the game by virtue of the visitors coming out on top in the midfield battle. He added: “If you look at Arsenal’s midfield – Fabregas, Denilson, Rosicky, Song and Nasri compared to United’s of Fletcher, Carrick, Scholes, Park and Nani.
“The Arsenal players all similar – good technically, a similar size and comfortable on the ball, but who is going to stop the opposition from playing? I thought Carrick and Scholes were outstanding.
“Arsenal fans can say there was no Diaby and Van Persie but United were without probably three of their first-choice back four – Ferdinand, Vidic and O’Shea – and they also sold the best player in the world in the summer.
“If you look at it, we were as far away yesterday as we were in the 3-1 defeat against United in the Champions League last season.
“And if you look at the last four results at home against United and Chelsea they have been 3-1, 3-1, 3-0 and 4-1 (all defeats). Those are the matches against your two biggest rivals.
“I think Arsene needs to recognise that he needs a different sort of character in the team – someone who will force himself on the opposition.
“There are now three mini-leagues within the top seven clubs in the Premier League at the moment. First there is Chelsea and Manchester United, then there is Arsenal, and next you have Liverpool, Aston Villa, Manchester City and Spurs.”
Stonroy i read that on the train home, it was very good advice for Wenger. Just a shame he wont listen.
Lol.. we’re in a mini league of our own!
leon,
we should have gone for experience and power, simple as…
why persist with the 4-3-3 when you clearly don’t have the personnel available to play it?
why play 5 similar players in the front 6?
It’s so true, it’s not Arsenals technical quality, it’s their hunger and passion to win. I don’t believe Arsene can compete with Fergie in that department, his passion lies in the visual presentation not in the desire to win. Big bloody difference.
By ‘his’ I mean AW
I saw Perry at the Emirates yesterday
Sigurðsson Rejects Man United For Arsenal Trial
Arsenal have beaten Manchester United to Icelandic midfielder Ingólfur Sigurðsson. The left-footed central midfielder has rejected the advances of the Premier League Champions to link up with the Gunners for a trial next month.
Sigurðsson has been subject of intense interest from club’s all over Europe after breaking through and turning in a handful of eye-catching performances in the Úrvalsdeild League. Officials from Everton and Arsenal were present at the weekend as the exciting 16-year-old scored a fantastic brace for Knattspyrnufélag Reykjavíkur’s senior team.
Ingólfur joined KR – Iceland’s oldest and most prestigious club – after a season In Holland with Heerenveen. Last term he played three times in the first-team and showed enough promise to be named in the squad for the current campaign. Manchester United were previously in contact and they have since asked him to trial on the 15th of February, which clashes with the date that Arsenal have suggested. He has since turned down Sir Alex Ferguson and will be in London later this month.
Outfits from Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Germany have also made enquiries but the Iceland Under 17 international is keen on a move to England. Sigurðsson can play in any attacking position, but he is most at home as a left-sided central midfielder or on the wing.
He will stay for five days before returning to KR, although it is widely regarded he will not remain in the Úrvalsdeild for much longer. You can view a video of Ingólfur scoring for Iceland’s Under 16’s below
sorry but who really gives a fuck about another 16 year old. And I really don’t mean to sound rude.
we are in a mini league on our own and I bet we still lose
Why the heck we are in for one more 16 years old as if we don’t have enough of them. Why are we wasting our time and resources by identifying these 16 years old.
Take away, Cesc (and I am sure a Spanish team will do that for us in the summer) how many of Wengers litle boys have made it?
SPECIAL REQUEST FOR ALL MY GOONERS IM TOO DEPRESSED TO BLOG
Isn’t it great we have signed Villa, Dzeko, Sissoko, Cahill and Adler?
Isn’t it great we have sold Denilson, Almunia,Bendtner, Silvestre, Djourou?
Isn’t it a great feeling?
OH WAIT………..
Proof for Mens vs Boys.
http://images.takingflite.com/viewer.php?file=42480388770809090932.jpg&filetitle=walcott%20and%20evra
I have tried to stay away from hear in knowledge that genrally when we lose our adrelin is pumping and we often say things that although true, in an unrational manner.
Yesterday I never wathced the match, luckily for me. However from what i can gather denilson was terrible. And to be honest I think he needs to be dropped. He is not a defensive midfielder in any way shape or for. Arsene bought him as an attacking midifielder, but noticed that in reality denilson is average and decided to play him defensively.
ON almunia, whats the point, he aint getting dropped. Clichy, well i don’t really no what to say, i’ll give him a chance v chelsea. Lastly on the striker front i will also wait until the chelsea game to decide, as bendtner will be ready by then.
Signing all these kids is really getting annoying.
If we had one lesser kid, we could’ve probably been able to afford flamini.
Another kid and ashley cole would still be our left back.
Lol Franchise.
Once more Sir Wenger has f**d it up. We will lose against chelsea and probably against Liverpool and Porto and come 1st of March we will be fighting for nothing ONCE AGAIN.
Come World Cup he will say he is going to buy a super, super class players and he will bring one crap player.
Of course Fab and Arsh will go, but hey we will earn about 60 mil.
ARsene knows.
“Rip it up and Start Again”…..
Paul, we wont buy in the next window because of the world cup… come on, you know the game by now! haha!
Well Baxter Wall you were publicly very glad that I’m not the Arsenal manger.
I didn’t put myself forward in that role, what I did was suggest that Kevin Davies would add the missing ingredient to Arsenal’s arsenal.
In the light of yesterday’s SHORT-comings, perhaps you can find the time to tell me again why it was such a poor suggestion.
Thanks.
Wow Franchise. I had that same song stuck in ma head on the way home tonight lol.
Pedders you old scrote! Myself and Franchise are thinking of drowning our sorrows sometime this week, interested?
If you enjoyed “SpinalTap” or “Still Crazy” you may enjoy “Hard Core Logo” a very edgy, punk variation on the band reunion theme.
DDM, sounds like a good idea.
Lets go to a bar and pretend to everyone that Franchise is Johann Djourrou. Maybe we’ll get free beer?
It’s funny this whole Wenger debacle… If you took a different manager and gave him the current squad, it probably wouldn’t be very hard to get them working properly.
Wenger has laid the foundations… but lost his way in making it work.
The concept is a good one… it’s just not being executed properly. Only the great kids should make it… where there’s not a great kid, you buy someone. When that kid becomes good enough, you sell the older player, or spice up competition.
still fucking hurting !season gone on the last day of january .
yesterday it was deja vu all over again from the cl semi final, like before that game i actually thought we would win.what a prat i was ,
in life most of us learn from our mistakes, our fucking illustrious leadershows he cannot .
he must go at the end of the season.
Simon, you weren’t being a prat, with some (maybe undeserved) luck and AA23 sharing we could’ve been 2-up early…
with the Mancs chasing the game, it could’ve been us running up a cricket score on the counter
What about having Sol on to mark Drogba and TV as CF…he shows fabulous determination in their box.
Has anyone signed? other than Sol ofcourse
I’ll give u one guess
Cheers
Wenger signed a few autographs
no signings then. Isnt it past 5PM london time?
just spent a few mins reading through posts at ACLF. A curious mixture of rage, anger, arrogance and total self delusion. Freud would have a field day.
Hopefully wenger signed his resignation letter to be handed in tomorrow.
what is important now is-
we don’t build up to much hope against the chavs because it hurts even more when you get let down.
Strange how quickly things have changed. In November we were 11 points behind, middle of January we were top of the league (briefly) and in a weeks time we could be 11 points behind again.
No chance of us catching them if we go 11 points behind again.
Wenger got us to the top of the league for a few days, and its his work (or lack thereof) that has put us back into almost nothingness. We wont win the CL because we have no big game players, the league could be out of reach pretty soon and the 2 cups were never even taken seriously…..
Can’t believe that only a week or so ago i said to a friend “it feels great being in a title race after so long without”. Easy come easy go i guess…
You got to be seriously delusional if you build up your hopes thinking we will get a result in that game
We have no chance of beating the chavs, especially at the Bridge with Drogshit fit. Apparently we have never beaten chelsea when Drogba has played. How about that for a depressing stat huh!
No team ever has no chance, especially in a game between two big teams, but I’m certainly not optimistic about the game. Let’s hope Drogba is knackered after the African Nations and gets injured tomorrow at Hull!
The Gods dont like us enough to injure Drogba. Lets hope McShane does though…
Or Steven Hunt, pissed off at his move to Wolves falling through tries to kick Cech in the head again, and half the Chelsea team gets sent off in the following melee
NW5 Gooner Says:
February 1, 2010 at 22:22
just spent a few mins reading through posts at ACLF. A curious mixture of rage, anger, arrogance and total self delusion.
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and they are the good posters
you should see some of the cranks who are from there , who come here to verbally wrestle with the DOOM SQUAD of Le grove ..
The real problem is the author ! he posts such flattering propaganda to his disciples they actually believe him ..
like a mini wenger
every year around this time it all comes crashing down at arsenal then the ACLF boys(gays) come over here to vent because for the 1st half of the season they are blinkered
by the authors vision and over all VIBE of his postings ..
then when we are proven correct by wengers ANNUAL failings we get waves of the ALCF zombies come over to CONVERT / DISRUPT
Le Grove .
Arsenal of the dead .
I can see us winning at the bridge, as A said, anyone can win.
We cant win the league though, no chance, but in a one off game we have a fair chance to beat chelsea.
If we win at the bridge why couldn’t we win the league gambon?
Honestly, hoping Phil Browns team would do arsenal a favour is about as low as we can get.
Because we arent good enough A.
Any team can beat any team in one game. But over the next 14 games we will pick up less points that at least one, if not both teams above us.
Why do you think that though gambon? Based on the season up to this point, the opposite is true….
This club will not change any time soon .
management would have to slide over in order to get this club motivated to win accolades .
its more interested in self preservation and doing shit on the cheap !
you cant win wimbledon with a plastic toy racket from tesco !
you need the right TOP QUALITY GEAR ..
or players in our case …
ALMUNIA’S a joke , wenger had a month to replace him ! its unexcusable !
we dont even have an acceptable backup keeper !
fucking useless attitude for those trying a
winning push !
i can see the clubs willingness to win !
i saw it for 31 days !
I don’t think we’ll win the league, because I don’t think we’ll beat Chelsea, but IF we beat Chelsea and Liverpool, we’ll still be in a very good position
We can win the league if chelsea dont beat Hull, lose to us and we win the rest of our games….with united and chelsea both losing a few matches of course.
chelsea could rest drogba against us and still win
We’ve had our chance.. and honestly I think we blew it
We wont win at the bridge as the team is not good enough due to AWs mismanagement!!period…..
just watching euro goals now,clichy’s gonna get terrorised by that winger for porto
A Says:
February 1, 2010 at 23:10
If we win at the bridge why couldn’t we win the league
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we wont do either
your still in dream land ..
unbelievable………
(why ?? :- because at this time of the year man U and the Chev’s usually step up the campaign a notch whilst we always go the other way )
we are not mentally strong enough , we lack the quality experience of players like anelka or drogpoo , there defense is the best in the league ..
sure anything is possible but history has the proof …
expect to go down like cheap whores in a brothel at Stamford bridge .
A
Well i base it on the fact that Chelsea have 5 points more than us (plus GIH) and UTD have 4 more points than us.
Also they have much better defences than us, and historically cope much better at the business end of the season.
Infact pretty much everything points to both teams finishing above us.
If the wind blows from the north we might have a chance against the chavs!!
Whats his name bbk….
varela i think
Well if we beat Chelsea we’re 5 behind them, 4 behind Utd. Up to this point this season we’ve beaten the smaller teams very consistently, and after Liverpool almost all of our games are against smaller teams….
Chelsea and Utd have to play each other still, so if that’s a draw then it’s 3 behind Chelsea, 2 behind Utd, if either of them win then it’s 5 behind Chelsea and 1 behind Utd, or 2 behind Chelsea, 4 behind Utd.
Chelsea have to go to Everton, Spuds, Utd, and Liverpool, and their away record this season is far from great. Villa and City at home too, neither of which are gimmes.
Utd have to go to Villa, Everton, City, and Sunderland, play Liverpool, Spuds and Chelsea at home.
There is potential for both Utd and Chelsea to drop a lot of points, and if we kept up our consistency against the smaller teams we would be right up there.
However that’s all IF we beat Chelsea and Liverpool, and that’s a very very big if, which I think is unlikely to happen.
They have Hulk too who was a handful for chelsea. Farias and Falcao too. Its gonna be a hard match for sure…eapecially at their place..
no doubt stu
IF we beat chelsea and liverpool we still have away matches against the Spuds and Stoke. We dont have many easy away games..
Its been a real bitchfest today guys plenty of opinions about what we should do? what is the next step?
True Stu, though I really don’t think Stoke will be that difficult with our first team, but Spuds will certainly be tough, and City could be difficult too. No away games are easy, but we’ve certainly played most of the toughest ones already.
Chelsea – Arsenal
Arsenal – Liverpool
Arsenal – sunderland
Stoke City – Arsenal
Arsenal – Burnley
Hull City – Arsenal
Arsenal – West Ham United
Birmingham City – Arsenal
Arsenal – Wolverhampton Wanderers
Tottenham Hotspur – Arsenal
Wigan Athletic – Arsenal
Arsenal – Manchester City
Blackburn Rovers – Arsenal
Arsenal – Fulham
right lets have a count up
The annoying this is as soon as we’re out of the title race – like 10 points behind – we’ll start winning games comfortably again and Wenger will start the spin routine. Just like last spring.
If we’re still in the title race, then Stu is right, we’re still likely to mess up against the supposedly easier teams, especially considering how poor we were against Everton and Bolton away.
the next step is to keep going as we are reggie, and if we lose to Chelsea and end up battling for 3rd, then come the summer policies totally change.
We also have Brum away. That could be more points dropped especially given their form this season.
To be anywhere near the top near the end of the season we need to win all our home matches 5 of our away matches..
So theoretically we could lose to chelsea and Stoke, and still win the league. Haha imagine that!
Or lose to chelsea and draw one or two. BUt that might be pushing it.
unday, 7 February 2010
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FC Porto v Arsenal, R1, L1, 19:45
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Stu imo if we lose to Chelsea there’s absolutely no chance, 11 points at this stage is just too much. a draw and 8 points is pushing it, we’d need alot of luck, a win and 5 points and we’ve got a decent chance, as long as we follow it up by turning over Liverpool at the Emirates.
If the Mail article at the weekend is right, and VP is gonna return mid march it would be absolutely amazing, could just provide that boost that keeps the momentum and helps us spank spuds at their place, Brum away, and City at home, which are all potential point droppers
Cant see much happening there A plenty of fans are pissed with wenger(including me)support will start to dwindle if only he would have listened to what every fan/pundit was telling him all this could have been avoided,cant see no way out but wengers resignation at the end of the season!!
A hell of a lot of ifs there though!
A, I can’t see Wenger changing his policies. If he can’t win with the likes of Denilson then he will leave as he will end up just doing what the media have told him to do for the last four years. That will kill him.
A,
You are the perpertual optimist. Perhaps you should swap with Pat Rice? Wenger will really love ya.
I’d hope Wenger wouldn’t resign reggie. If it does happen, which means the club would be in a bit of a mess, then I would expect Wenger to take it upon himself to fix it. If he doesn’t feel that he’s the one to sort it out though then I’m sure he’d walk.
As one famous leader said “this man is not for turning”
AW 2010!!!
there’s no point bringing v.p back this season let him recover properly,the league is done and we definitely won’t win the c.league.
The club is in a mess now A due to the man not fixing the problems he has created!!
Just looking at the league table and its really sinking in how overhyped we were with the goals scored.
We have 60 goals and conceded 28 and we are supposedly the best attacking side in the premiership. BUt Chelsea, played 1 match less, scored 57 conceded 19 and 5points clear.
Not a massive difference but after they beat Hul convincingly us being the best scorers will have been just pissed all over.
WHat a difference a defence makes…regardless of most of those goals conceded being irrelevant.
Not an optimist at all confident, I’m just being objective rather than letting the negative feeling from the humiliation against Utd consume me! I don’t think we WILL win the league, but if we beat Chelsea and Liverpool then we’re max 5 behind Chelsea and 4 behind Utd, with the much easier run in, and better record up to this point when it comes to beating the smaller teams.
However I don’t think it’s that likely we will be just 5 points behind Chelsea after Liverpool.
It’s funny how it has worked out tho,we clawed 11 points back off cuntski and next sunday it will be 11 again,strange league this year..
Yeah leave robin to get fit for the world cup and come back crocked again!!
What about when he goes to the World CUp and gets injured again BBK?
A,
tbh, ego would not let him eat his words, I think its time to say goodye.
Wenger did say last summer that is (should have been when) we fail to win something this season then there would be a total change in policy and new players coming in and current going out.
I know his word cant be trusted but at last its something to look forward to.
ha ha chavs could potentially wrap up the league at shit hart lane,that would kill them again..
Stu, we haven’t scored more than one goal at Old Trafford in Wenger’s entire reign in the league. Shows you our mentality in the big games.
We’re supposed free scorers but rarely show it in the decisive games when it matters. Haven’t scored more than one goal at the Emirates in the last four games involving United and Chelsea.
Hes a liar stu dont believe anything he says i dont…
oh well if that happens it happens there;s no point bringing him back for the remainder of this season
I don’t believe that though Confident. The ego/pride thing is something that is just made up by pissed off people in my eyes. He doesn’t give a shit what the fans or media think one way or the other, and would make decisions based on what he thought was best, not what he thought people would think of his decisions. The same as any top football manager.
I think AW is really a mediocre coach. Ok, not mediocre, but not a top manager. Not in the league of Fergie, Morinho, etc. We have seen these losses time and time again. what has he done to address them – Nothing.
Have a nice blogging guys, goodnite!
Face it under AW we will always be perenial under achievers……
Thats the problem though A. He should care what us fans think. Its his job to make us happy by winning things.
Yeah Paulinho. Also when was the last time we thrashed any of our rivals? We always seem to get a pasting. Chelsea 4-1 and 3-0, united 3-0 and 3-1. Liverpool 4-1 a few seasons ago.
We always get thrashings but rarely, if ever, beat them by a convincing scoreline. Always by the odd goal.
Thats why when our attack isnt good enough to break down a top defence we usually lose because our defence is shite.
I had a feeling after west ham brought in 3 new strikers today that Wenger would jump in and steel a jaded Carlton Cole. . .
I’m relaxed now.. . everyone’s expecting us to lose against chelsea, so players might be more relaxed. . .on our day we can beat anyone, we know that. If we get a result this wknd the papers will change their tune again and say what a funny league this is and Arsenal are still in it blah, blah, blah. . .
who knows. . .
There’s a contradiction there Stu.
His job is to win things, by winning things he’d keep us happy.
imo NO top coach would or should EVER make any decision about the footballing side because he cares what fans think. His job is to do everything to be the best of his ability to win things to make fans happy, as soon as he makes a decision to make fans happy, that goes against what he feels is best, then he isn’t fit to manage anymore.
Bernard Baines
arsene dont anymore!!!
There you go A you said it your self then, AW isnt fit to manage anymore!!
Wenger doesn’t care what the fans think, but he does care what the media and footballing world do. Any suggestion that he doesn’t is ludicrous.
He literally never shuts up about his idealogies and wanting to win with players who he has brought in “to love the club” from an early age.
So you think he’s making decisions to make fans happy reggie?!
His job is to do everything to be the best of his ability to win things to make fans happy, as soon as he makes a decision to make fans happy, that goes against what he feels is best, then he isn’t fit to manage anymore.
your words A not mine!!
What do you mean “never shuts up” Paulinho? You do realise that everything he says is because he’s asked about things in press conferences….
He doesn’t phone up the Mirror and say “Hi there, I’d like to talk to you about my ideologies”.
If he made any decisions because he cared what anyone else thought, then imo he should go. I don’t give two hoots what he says in press conferences and interviews though!
Yeah reggie, my words indeed.
So in your opinion he’s made decisions which he thinks are the wrong decisions, because he thinks that would make the fans happy?
Well if he doesnt make decisions to appease people then it means he has noone to answer to. Nothing suprising because trophies dont seem to be the boards (his bosses) priorities.
They cant force him to spend as you say A. But they can tell him he has 30m to spend in a transfer window and suggest he do it.
His job is to do everything to be the best of his ability to win things to make fans happy,
As i said earlier A your words not mine!!
I think he’s actually making decisions just to be stubborn now.
Pundits, ex players, most fans & blogs are all saying we need players, therefore he will do the exact opposite cos he doesnt want people thinking he reacted to others opinions.
Its ridiculously childish, but i honestly think thats what hes doing.
well, in my calculation, the Chav game was the toughest, but so far I got both results wrong (expected more in both games) – now I am not expecting shit, so it would be typical for them to go there and win it…
fucking hell, who am I kidding?
In interviews A, when asked about why Arsenal haven’t won anything or why he won’t buy. Usually between the months May and August, when he tells everyone that the “solution is not always to buy” and he starts bigging up his youngsters with the exact same reasoning he bigged them up the season before, and before that.
If you can’t see that he cares massively how he wins then you haven’t been listening to him.
As he said himself, he dropped Arshavin the Semi final of the F.A Cup because he wanted the same midfield that played against Chelsea in the Carling Cup to prove they could win big games.
It’s all about proving a point with Arsene, winning with the youngest team ever and without spending much.
He is not doing the job to the best of his ability imo!!
That wasnt it Paulinho. He dropped Arshavin because we had a CL semi coming up (that Arsh wasnt eligable for anyway) because he wanted t show the players that they could beat chelsea and united without our best player.
As it happens we won neither and gave up both matches without much of a fight.
Its too many young players all at once no mixing things up.
Utd essentially waited for us to fuck up and Denilson obliged. Twice.
3 times if you count almost scoring a sublime og David.
So we are gonna carry on till the end of the season with a half fit striker with no back up for him ,great planing by the all powerful one…
I stand corrected 3 times.
Also love that pass Almunia gave to Nani right on the edge of the box…
Well im off to lay down abit….30 hrs later..and it still hurts.
David,
Denilson got skinned with Clichy by Nani for the first goal, overtaken by Shrek for the second and actually lost the ball for the third!
I dont know why we didnt get anyone on loan either ffs.
Celtic, pathetic little celtic got Braafield and Keane on loan. They may not be top class players but for Celtic they are huge.
We could have gotten some experience in, or some reliability to keep up solid for the rest of the season.
Same here Dave!!!
oh, with the nearly OG, make it 4 cockups
Oh yeah your right Stu. It was a bit of a coincidence though.
In the last 6 transfer windows, our business has been shocking;
Jan 2010; £0
Summer 2009; +£30m
Jan 2009; -£17m
Summer 2008; £0
Jan 2008; +£5m
Summer 2007; +£6m
This doesnt include all the loan fees weve made.
So where the fuck is the money going, and why is Wenger so scared to spend it?
Has the stadium been paid off yet? If not then how long is left/how much more to pay?
Another 25 years time we will be debt free!!
http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/arsenal-legend-questions-desire-at-emirates?
I think Wenger might be shoving the money up his arse
Stu
Do you mean the emirates or highbury flat debt?
Emirates is long term, over another 21 years or so, but its not an issue as the repayments are well within our means.
The property loan will be paid off by now more than likely, certainly by the end of the season.
I think Wenger keeps on giving Denilson £1m to spend the night with him.
I dont know really Gambon. I was thinking the money we make from players might be going towards the stadium. Not all obviously but most of it.
Anyway….
Another 25 years Ill be six foot under!!
Maybe fat Nasri has ponced all the money off of Wenger and used it to buy food
Any one heard from mangoon i hope he hasnt topped himself!!
Fat Nasri probably ordered a £120m dominos feast.
Fat Cunty Ponce!
How many mars bars could that ponce Nasri buy for 120 million notes?
Go check his house, hes already bought em, fat ponce.
“Well if he doesnt make decisions to appease people then it means he has noone to answer to. Nothing suprising because trophies dont seem to be the boards (his bosses) priorities.
They cant force him to spend as you say A. But they can tell him he has 30m to spend in a transfer window and suggest he do it.”
Stu imo they can’t suggest that, that would be out of order. He does have to answer to those above him, of course he does, but for the results of his actions, not his actions themselves. A manager is employed by the board or chairman of a club to try and get results, and how he gets the results should always be 100% up to him. As soon as a Chairman or board start deciding what they think a manager should do in a certain situation, you end up on very rocky ground.
I had a chelsea mate mail me today and wasnt being cuntish at all. He was actually trying to cheer me up and wondering why Wenger is making the weird choices that he’s making.
Pity from a Chelsea fan?
Fat cunt made me feel worse.
I dont agree there at all A.
Why cant the board give him money to spend instead of him saying “i like this player and i think he is worth X amount but dont want him if he costs more”. Whats wrong with just getting the players that will get us the trophies. Its not making his decisions for him. Its giving him the tools to do a better job. I see nothing wrong with that.
If someone gave you money and told you to spend it then you would fucking do it. Why should he be any different. We can afford it ffs!
Paulinho you have to realise that he says those things when he’s asked them, he doesn’t just come out with them then. He’d say them whenever he was asked about them.
Dropping Arshavin to prove to the players they could win without him, is not the same as proving something to the fans or the media ffs! Trying to build the players’ confidence for a future game isn’t the same as trying to appease fans or media, obviously.
He also added that we were so bad on sunday that he thinks we’ll beat them at stamford bridge. You could tell he was just trying to be nice though.
Like how Ferguson is nice about Wenger nowadays because he knows he’s beaten and demoralised him to the point of pity.
fucking horrible.
Fucking hell, was just about to say we arent even gonna win the womens league, then i noticed we are 4 points behind, with SIX games in hand!
SIX fucking games!!
What a shower of shit competition!
Fuck that A.
Getting to the FA cup final is a fucking trillion times more important than trying to convince your average players they are better than they are, and dropping your best player and best chance at winning a cup just do show them is not fucking on.
I’d stick some of those birds in the first team Gambon. Any one of them is better than that prong Denilson, and I’d stick one of their jam-rags in goal.
Makes you wonder if David Dein just used to lie about how much certain players cost.
For example Wenger would say dont spend more than £9m on Wiltord, and he, trying to do whats right for the club would just go and sign the player at any price.
I still remember the excitement at signing Reyes, havent felt that since.
It depends whether we can Stu. That money has to come from somewhere. If he spends £20 mil on a £15 mil player, then he’ll have £5 mil less to spend next window, when someone actually worth the money might be available.
If it was just a case of his saying I want x, y, and z, and the club went out and paid silly money to get them, then we had an injury crisis, and wenger said “i need a, b, and c,” the board would turn round and say “on we can’t afford it because we paid double the previous players’ worth in the last window”
The manager needs to be in charge of his budget, because it reflects on future budgets
Yeah AA23. Ferguson doesnt get into fights with Wenger anymore because he knows he isnt a threat anymore. Mind games? What fucking mind games, Wenger beats himself most of the time now.
A,
your optimism sounds desperate , you have to now agree wenger has failed again for another season …
mathematically not impossible , however highly unlikely whilst almunia is in goal . and many other reasons ..
but essentially the point im trying to make is where is the passion ???
we fold over at every tough curve in the road .
nothings changed …
the main point to focus on at the moment was , the window was open , we were on top of the table for a short duration ..
there was a time to strike ..
and it was so clear what needed to be done , yet the club fell silent ..
i dont think he was ever seriously looking for a striker this window , he just gave the looking for a striker RUMOUR to motivate the dudu’s and AA’s of the club into the role ..
YOU HEARD THAT 1st on A.COM !
a sneaky way to get an official word from the manager out of the club ….
Stu
Pretty sad that actually. they used to hate each other and go at it hammer and tongs in the press, now Feruson just feels a bit bad for him.
Right, bed time, got a train to catch at 6.
Lets continue this wenger bash tomorrow, also we should sign the “wenger out” and “fat ponce on a diet” petitions tomorrow.
optimism ethan? I’m not optimistic at all, I don’t think we’ll win the league, or anything this year.
Hello Lads.. how are we all after this Player’less transfer window
At least it will all be over on sunday and we can worry about more important things, like Aids and famine.
That never happens though does it A.
We spent nothing in this window so does that mean he can spend double in the summer? Does it fuck. He wouldnt spend half of 1 transfer windows budget.
And as for spending 20m on a 15m player. If there was a player worth 15m out there that Wenger wanted he would only offer 10m or 11m. We never over spend and rightly so. But there is no reason why we cant just offer as close as possible to what is being asked.
im sorry but that is bollocks A.
we always make a profit, we should have millions to spend and it should not effect the summers spending which should be generated by the vast amount of money the club take off of the fans.
Depressed Raif. Just plain and simple..depressed.
AA23 .. HAHAHAHA, i feel bad for laughing but i cant help it
Stu,, i know all to well mate,, i got home from work after getting a crap load from 2 man utd fans and knowing we didnt sign anyone. what a life
I doubt it means he could spend double next time Stu, but I reckon we could be pretty sure that if he spent big this window then it would limit spending next window.
What is being asked isn’t the same as what a player would be worth to us. Clubs usually want a fair bit more than a player is worth, unless they actually want rid of the player. If they don’t get more than a player is worth then there’s no point selling from their perspective, it doesn’t mean that that’s therefore a player’s value.
incesc of course it would affect it. Regardless of how much money we make, it’s a fact that if we spend now, we would have less than if we didn’t spend. It doesn’t mean that we’d have nothing to spend, but we’d certainly have less.
this week everyone important got 3 points and we didnt .
dont get anymore points for the next 2 weeks and we very well might be out of the top 4 !
we have played poorly in most games other than the villa one , even they had enough chances to test us but failed worse than us ..fortunate .
bolton , to close for comfort ..
sloppy 90% of the time ..
rolled by the manc’s
and another hiding waiting for us just around the corner ..
maybe wenger can organize a internal rally
to come out strong V’s the chev’s ..
but over 90 minutes with quality strikers at their disposal it can only end one way really…
AKB alright !
i think wenger will go to madrid.
we will probably get moyes or someone like that.
fuck moyes, if/when wenger goes we’ve got to get someone proven
oh god i wonder who our lovely board will go for is/when wenger goes,
and i dont think it will be a english manager, as lets face it english managers are abit crap,
currently the bookies favourite is o’neil, what a horrible horrible thought!!!! Obviously means pretty much fuck all right now, but still seems pretty ridiculous
Well A. If spending in this wondow would hinder our ability to soend in the next window. Then logically us now spending any money this january would give us ample funds for the summer, would it not?
There is no excuse for not spending big this summer. We definately have the money to do it and we certainly need some better players. No reason not to spend.
IMO transfer fees are compensation for the selling club to buy a player to fill the gap left in their squad.
If we buy someones best player, their player worth the most. We should compensate them well. If that means paying what they want (realistically) then so be it.
A fee relates to the worth of that player to the selling club, not how valuable he would be to the buying club. Hleb was worth 30m to us, but worth fuck all to Barca.
Honestly if none of this makes sense them i apologise…im fucking jaded tired. It makes sense im my head and thats all that matters
lol Paul Merson, 750/1
I dont want board nut arsenal have done it on the cheap for so long as if they will get a top class manager in.
this whole mentality is ingrained into the whole upper echelon of the club.
Gazidis spouts the same shit as wenger all the time…
board=moyes
nut=but
Wenger wasnt proven when he arrived. Pep wasnt proven at Barca, he wasnt even known. Lots of managers arent proven.
I wouldnt mind Bouldy doing a Pep…that would be sweet alrght..
LOL incesc. How did you confuse board with Moyes?
incesc wenger is as well paid as any manager, there’s no way the managerial appointment would be on the cheap.
Stu not ample funds, but obviously there would be MORE money than there would be if we didn’t spend.
Say a player is worth £15 million. A buying club will try and get him for £10 mil, but would be willing to pay £15 mil for him. A selling club would also value him at £15 mil, but wouldn’t sell him for anything less than £20 mil, because there’s absolutely no point in them selling him for what he’s worth. The only reason for selling him if they don’t want to, would be if they could get £5 mil more than he’s worth, then they can try and buy £20 mil worth of player, from selling £15 mil worth.
Hleb was worth £15 mil to us, and to Barca, but because of his contract issues, we agreed to sell him for less than his worth, rather than risk losing him for much less.
Laughter is the best medicine Raif.
unless you have cancer, then it’s chemo.
Yeah Stu I agree, previous players who are unproven could take over, provided they’ve done their time behind the scenes. Bould would probably have to go elsewhere first actually, remember Guardiola coached Barca’s B team, and did very well with them. Even if Bould moved up a level to the reserves, it wouldn’t be enough really imo.
When Wenger arrived we weren’t anywhere near as big a club as we are now, so it’s different to his appointment
A, I never said Wenger was trying to appease the media. It’s in fact the complete opposite.
He’s trying to win so he can say “fuck you, you bunch of fat sunday supplement beer bellies, I won the league without doing what you said I needed to do”.
Im wrecked..off to sleep. Night all…
I don’t believe that though Paulinho. I don’t believe he’d go either way because of the media or fans, whether to make a decision to piss off others, nor to appease them.
He’s decided what he believes is the best way to do things, and anyone else can fuck off whatever they think, whether they agree or not, it isn’t going to change his mind.
Nite Stu, been fun as always
Well A. If spending in this wondow would hinder our ability to soend in the next window. Then logically us now spending any money this january would give us ample funds for the summer, would it not?
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if we didnt spend just then and go this season on a big fat zero , then you could very well find youll have surplus money anyhow due to the sale of cesc !
because i think he knows what most fans do !
like AA said , we will win nothing in the EPL !
even our player knows …
its time to heed the warnings there has been enough of them !
also on the hindering the clubs spending capacity WTF are you on about ?
26 mill ade was never replace, and money never spent !
toure for TV ok tit for tat .
but a keeper for 5 mil , and a striker for around 10 -15 .. wouldnt of broke the bank ..
and why would you need to spend in the summer if you got the fuckin team right now ??
FFS !
also ytou bet your life a few will be sold on at the end of this season , simpson maybe traore – eboue – almunia .. fish face on a free
? we can only dream ..
but im sure wenger will raise a lazy 10 – 20 mil from player sales come seasons end ..
you could afford to get a striker – keeper with experience at the top level , even friedel or someone .. ANYONE ! ….
and have change in your pocket for the boards lunch money ..
then when numbchucks is on a free in the summer you could even sell dudu or nik b ..
depending on which striker you bought now .
wenger stream of cash flow isnt the issue here anymore , its where it goes is the issue ..
and more importantly where it ISNT going @!
Hi my patience with Wenger has gone after 3-1 Humilaition at hand of Manchester United, Imagine we even make Korean look so Good that clichy escorted to goal. Denilson defended against Nani shocking after also losing the ball for Third one. Then he escorted Stoke city guy all the way for the cross. What going on, But take heart we do have core players, Fabregas, Arshavin, Song, Vermalaen, Gallas, Sagna( Need to be coached how to cross the ball) Nasri(Bad yestrday but good), Rosicky,Eboue Then those who didn’t Play i would keep Ramsey,RVP,Eduardo, Diaby, Djorou,Wiltshere(on Loan), Merida. Campbell( Useful even when not playing to coach the defenders)
Following players would go on Loan, Walcott, Vela, Traore, Fabiansky.
Also i would sell following Aluminia,Nicky,Denilson.
Silvester is free to go.
Also I have looked around to see who to replace Wenger at the end of Season and his name is
Laurent BLANC.
No more youth to be bought until we clear dead weights in the academy none of them are promising apart from few, We would have clearout.
Goodbye Wenger and thanks for the memories, You have become Fergie most respected Manager why? cause you never win anything and every seasons he go before Media to beg you to do him A favour. Wenger good bye you ahve become to senile.
I’ve been giggling about Nasri being a “Fat ponce” all day.
Exceptional talent!!! Expect us to be beaten to him. Expect Wenger to say we had a chance to sign him but Nikalas was the poo poo and expect the AKBs to try to justify it.
It’s a sad sad time to be a Gooner. After slipping two points at Villa, we absolutely surrendered to United. They picked up from where they left during last season’s CL semi’s. Rooney & Nani taking over from Ronaldo. Arsenal were humbled to say the least. Hope they bounce back against Chelsea in a week’s time.
http://11gunners.com/opinion/arsenal-title-contenders-or-mere-pretenders/3038/
the chev’s will be a harder test than that tazz
,nice name for an article thou !
man U at home should of been a draw at worst ,
if you believe our own hype that is …
which some do …
This club has forgotten the reason it fuckingwell exists for, for the fans, for the community, a club/tribe where you feel you belong, where you feel proud to be part of something….
The whole management structure is geared for self serving a select few, but at the (real) cost of the majority, it seems almost purposeful that the AFC management go out of their way to alienate the fan base, because we are now viewed as customers, a revenue stream is what we now are to them!
And, in all this we are sold ‘the future’, every season we’re getting “we’ll be great……next year”……….and we buy it because of our love for the club, and they know it, and they trade on that unswerving loyalty, they take it for granted.
Ask yourself this, just how many, directors, coaches or players went home hurting after Sunday’s shambles, truly? Does Denilson feel as bad as my litlle nephew who came home crying from school yesterday! Does he, really, as he drives away in his Bentley and collects another £30,000 while families who work 50 hours a week struggle to pay their gas bills, but still scrape together enough money to buy a ticket to watch their beloved Arsenal…..
You know what struck me about Sunday’s game was Arsend Wenger’s inability to change things around when the going gets tough, or to even motivate ONE of his senior players to grab the game by the scruff of the neck.
He’s no longer capable of winning this league while he persists with his own personal agenda, but he will not walk and he will certainly not be sacked by this lily livered self serving piss weak board, who are happy to take the profits, but not interested in pushing the club forward on the playing field.
Does anyone out there really think that this Yank’s buying into our club because he luuuuurves us, or he like the name? Jesus! He’s buying into our club because we’re already a money making machine, a good investment, we don’t need on-pitch success to make money, so he doesn’t need to rock the boat, just keep the board sweet, let them play their money making games, let the maganager be their front man whilst mugging us off. Nothings gonna change my friends, nothing,
I was told, in confidence, that Stan would only come on board if Wenger was still the manager!! Now why do you think that is??? Because he’s won so much in the last five years or because he’s making so much money for the club!! From a purely business perspective, Arsene Wenger is the clubs biggest asset. You might get £25m for Fabregas in the summer, but AW makes AFC double that every year!
DDM
good post,
The only way the Arsenal fans can make there voice heard by not attending games,and not renewing..
Can such a mass boycott happen together in a sustained manner for a good amount of weeks??
IF the answer is NO,then i am afraid, there is NO WAY,to change the boards ambitions
DDM: you are very very right indeed to point out exactly what the club exists for. Well written. For some, it really matters.
Micky,
thanks for ur “understanding words” the other day,wasnt online that time..
ancelotti thinks he will get us out of title race,
well i hope ancelotti and there team,think like that more often,so that,as much Over-confident the chavs become,its good for us…we need some luck..
DDM -
“we are now viewed as customers, a revenue stream is what we now are to them!”
“we buy it because of our love for the club, and they know it, and they trade on that unswerving loyalty, they take it for granted.”
“Arsend Wenger’s inability to change things around when the going gets tough”
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3 of the most relevant and indisputable facts surrounding our current situation!!!! Couldn’t agree more!!
DDM
only thing left to be done is,Re-Naming “THE ARSENAL” to “ARSENAL PRIVATE LIMITED COMPANY”
ARSENAL P.L.Company is what exists now
Re-Name
“THE ARSENAL” To,
“ARSENAL PRIVATE LIMITED COMPANY”
DDM
yes for some of us it does matter that we reclaim
our title , me for one . i feel your pain and you know ive been banging on for change as long, if not longer than you have ..
it makes you wonder if wenger was just blind lucky with the invincible’s . Because there seems no direction now , and hasnt been for some time ..its like watching a man getting lost in a desert !
& like you said its all based upon the mighty dollar .
wenger has achieved top 4 this season NO NEED TO STRENGTHEN ,C.L football is the hidden ONLY GOAL each season this club strives for , and why ? to make more of a financial wind fall ..
one things for sure whilst wenger is in power nothing will change and we will be subjected to
these youth experiments .
RE: – about the NO NEED TO STRENGTHEN , its funny this time last season villa threatened us so we got AA !
no such threat encountered this season so no need to spend ???????
not obvious need to win either
http://arsenal-mania.com/articles/3108043/Three-easy-points.html?
Interesting read
Morning all, Dennis I have written a post today you’ll like, and you Ethan!
Morning chaps – DDM/SiG it will be very difficult to organise any sort of protest as a significant portion of the crowd at the Grove are tourists and not actual Arsenal supporters. They are people who get free tickets from corporate hospitality and only go to the Grove to say that they’d been as they were in London and it is one of the “must see” places to go.
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Good post ddm, its worrying that other people dont realise this.
Look at how much money is available in the various competitions, from least to most;
-Carling Cup
-FA Cup
-PL & CL
I have joined them two competitions because they are linked.
Oh and what a surprise, we throw the competitions that wont make us money.
Every decision this club makes is about generating as much money as possible, none of which is used to strengthen the team.
People love to take sides either blaming the board or Wenger, when the fact is they are all complicit in the death of us as a football club. We are just a business that exploits consumers and provides the illusion of being a football club to keep mugs paying. Everything about the club from top to bottom, bar the players thenselves, stinks.
We are the only club in probably world football with 5 years of retained profits, even 2 years consecutive retained profits. Every other club in world football breaks even, cos if they make any profit they invest it into new players.
Wenger for all he has won, is no longer interested in winning trophies, he’s won his trophies years ago. Its about a huge retirement nest egg and the achievement of wealth & power now. Huge bonuses, salaries & a slice of the property pie is his focus now.
/rant
new post!
chary that blows ,
we cant even stage a protest , but you know
the way the club keeps slumping every season when the going starts getting tough ..
you will see a NATURAL BOYCOTT anyhoo !
some people just havent got money to pay that bigger ticket just for LOVES sake ..
sooner or later in front of a tv in a pub becomes
less painful on the wallet !