If he’s 23 and not 18 have him. I have the answer for a new captain of England!

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I talk of Moses of course, not the one that led the Israelites out of the desert and into the promised land, but the one that currently plays for Palace. If he’s really not 18, that’s not a bad thing is it, we have enough of those already!

Perhaps Moses (the real one) is at our gaff, the way we’re going, it may take 40 years to win something!

Today I want to talk about Palace for a bit, no one likes to see a team in trouble, especially a London team, but Simon Jordan has never tried to make the footballing world love him, and employing Neil Warnock, the Andy Capp of managers didn’t help him, or as it seems, Crystal Palace.

Now I’m no expert, but I thought Jordan thought he had bought the ground when he bought Palace, but I understand he got stitched on that one, so was always on the back foot, now I’m guessing so please don’t take that as gospel.

What I do find amusing is watching Ron Noades, now a regular on Sky Sports News,  painting himself as the wise old man of football, and in his day he had to be head cook and bottle washer, he suggested that, not me!

Well I know Ron Noades a bit, in fact he’s a neighbour of mine, I even remember having a lively debate with his charming wife once, anyway, the Ron Noades I know is not quite the Dickie Attenborough of football he makes out to be. So this bloke who comes across as a caring old chap who loves nothing more than helping old ladies across the road, eating jellied eels and watching a game from the terraces is not quite what he seems.

The Ron Noades I know gets on a plane, pays for a ticket in economy but when he needs a leak, he goes through the curtain into business and uses the club class toilet, he does it every time I’ve shared a flight with him, doesn’t want to pay the full fare, but wants to use the facilities of those that do! Now in my book, that’s no different to cheating at golf.

A little bit sneaky.

And someone that does that when flying, may not play life with a bat as straight as he makes out, so for all his digging at Simon Jordan, I’d like to know if he did something to him when he first bought the club, who knows eh? We haven’t heard from Mr Jordan.

Back to Moses, is he worth a punt? I’ve never seen him play, but as we only have until midnight on Monday, he may be our last chance of a signing. All the hope in December, dashed yet again by the end of a window, ho hum.

All we have now is the hope of a miracle that all above us collapse, we beat them both and that Nikki B comes of age and stays injury free till Robin come back and gets injured again.

Red nose said this, ’Sometimes, I can’t make out these chants but I know there’s been some terrible abuse from our fans to Arsene Wenger and there must be a line drawn’

First of all if he can’t make out the chants he must be blind as well as stupid and does anyone else wonder why he’s left it until two days before the game with us to mention it? Cynical or what? I hope our fans near the dug out give him some serious shit.

On a final note, with all the lurid and unsavoury stories about John Terry coming out today, is now the time to finally take the leap and make Theo Walcott captain of England? It could bring his form back, what do you think?

‘Theo Walcott, saviour of England’

Have a great day Grovers one more to go before the defining moment of our season, tomorrow I rally the troops!

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852 Responses to “If he’s 23 and not 18 have him. I have the answer for a new captain of England!”

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  5. Baxter Wall

    But since you asked Pedro… do i think for one second that Geoof is 100% convinced that its a good idea to sign a player he’s never seen play? Well, no not really. And I don’t reckon you think that either.

  6. ManGoonian

    ritesh;

    Well, its as valid a point as some of the other fishy shit I am seeing on here fella!

    Big Dave;

    Yo, man, keep the faith, this league has a long ol way to go yet… There are a lot of twists and turns to go yet…

  7. Stu

    Bordeaux keeper has kept them in this. At least 3 times Boulogne have broke on the counter and been 1v1 with him and he has saved them all.

  11. Stu

    Maybe it was then Iqwoo but it looked like Cavenaghi to me. Left side of the goal is his position too.

    HAHAHAHAH Almost the hero. Chamakh scores and he was onside but given offside…

  13. ethangunner

    just got back from my little den of sleaze ..
    i got up and left after those chev twats scored the 2nd!

    fuck em !
    we need to roll your buddies tomorrow MG .
    dont like our chances to be honest , we always fuck up at vital times when it really counts ..

    tomorrow is one of them times ..

    should be a good game regardless .
    and if rosicky /AA23 or cesc are on fire anything is possible ..

  14. GoonerT1m

    sweet dreams pedro.. 3 nil the arsenal super cescy hat trick, `Shrek batterd by TV or SOL!!!, come on the Arsenal!!

  21. Mr B

    Mangoon U have too time and energy mate! ever tried a spliff? it aughta chill u out. I was like that too when I was 15.

  22. ManGoonian

    ethan;

    When we played Bolton for the 2nd time and had the chance to go top, and proceeded to go 2 down, I thought we had blown a chance when it really mattered, but we came back strong…

    I think we will turn up tomorrow and we will get a result…. We better had otherwise my life will be bleedin as miserable as BBKs for a few days up here!!!

    (Only joking BBK mate! :D )

  23. ethangunner

    paul Says:
    January 30, 2010 at 19:58

    How the fuck can they ban Togo from the next two ACN’S

    ————–
    i would
    :)

  27. Pat

    Paul, cause the organizers hate Ade as well!

    David said Bendtner isn’t shite? now I’ve seen it all!

    Chamakh is a great player and he’d do well at CF for us, but he’d miss some sitters knowing him. His link-up play is unquestionable though and he’s a monster in the air.

  30. Pat

    And David, I’m on Mancuntia b/c we play them tmrw and I chat with them sometimes. You know, to exchange views with the opposition, etc.

    Clayton Blackmore Said,January 30th, 2010 @18:04
    No worries, Fred.
    Smalling has the vision and awareness of a blindfolded Stevie Wonder. Any chance Arsene put in a cheeky bid just to get us to spunk £7m on a non-league player for a laugh?

  34. ethangunner

    Mr B Says:
    January 30, 2010 at 20:03

    Ethan mate how old were u when u saw SCREAM for the first time???
    ———————————–
    26- is this a trick question ??..

    oh i get it :)
    no i just use the avatar/icon to appear menacing !

    it worked on MG for a while !

  35. ethangunner

    MG

    it will depend on who turns ups ..
    how many goals big Al hemorrhages !
    if TV is fit ..
    and if cesc can win the midfield battle

    and hopefully NIK WONT PLAY :)
    because if he does he will be as about as useful as a bar girl in boys town :)

  36. Stu

    Ethan, you seem happy that Togo are banned. Them being banned means Ade wont be missing for City for the next two. Thats bad for us because no matter how shite he is as a player he is important for them.

  38. ManGoonian

    Stu;

    You think Ade will still be at City by the time of the next ACN mate??? I reckon he’sll be on loan somewhere, running his contract down like Crespo, Shevchenko and Robinho…

    ethan;

    The players will turn up, INCLUDING Bendy! he was outstanding vs Villa when he came on, which all things consided, length of absence etc… Was OUTSTANDING…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIv0LyhrBWo

  39. chozzer

    Wayne Bridge sent his missus a replica of his cock made from Cadbury’s chocolate…..

    ….she said she prefers Terrys.

  41. Samir

    After reading Wenger’s comment I’ll go with;

    ……….Almunia………..
    Sagna-Gallas-Campbell/Vermy-Clichy
    ..Fabregas-Song-Denilson..
    ..Nasri-Arshavin-Rosicky..

    Bench;
    Fabianski,Walcott,Bendtner,Vela,Eboue,Silvestre,Traore

  47. Samir

    Campbell’s inclusion depends on the recovery of Thomas Vermaelen. When the Belgian left the field after 35 minutes of the game at Villa Park, it was the first time his partnership with William Gallas had been broken up in the Premier League this season. Fears that Vermaelen’s leg was broken proved false and, though his injury is thankfully short-term, he is a major doubt for Sunday. Every effort will be made to fast-track his recovery.

    Emmanuel Eboue and Alex Song are back with the Club after the Africa Cup of Nations but their fatigue will be a factor in Wenger’s thinking.
    On Friday, Wenger said: “We will assess Song today. He was in yesterday morning but he had travelled all night so we just checked him and sent him home. He had not slept all night.”

    Eduardo is out after collecting a hamstring injury at Villa while Nicklas Bendtner, his replacement on the night, is struggling for fitness after just returning from three months out. Samir Nasri, a substitute in midweek, is pushing for a start while Carlos Vela has a knee problem.

  50. luke

    Dutchman, his point in the article is that there are better players than what we have out there, but theyre not available. Did you even read the article? lol

  51. Dutchman

    We have a team. If we have to add one, even at 30 [million] we can do it, if not we can rely on what we have.”

    LOOK, LOOK!!! He says it by himself, we have 30 million!!! Wenger is a pussy who will not spend!!

  55. luke

    Dutchman Says:
    January 30, 2010 at 22:29

    We have a team. If we have to add one, even at 30 [million] we can do it, if not we can rely on what we have.”

    LOOK, LOOK!!! He says it by himself, we have 30 million!!! Wenger is a pussy who will not spend!!
    —————————————————–

    Dutchman, slow down. He obviously will spend, but there are no players available. He has said it a thousand times this window that he has the money to spend but nobody he likes is avaialble. He does not buy often but jesus, Arshavin, Vermaelen. He knows who to buy, dont call on arsenal to turn into madrid here pal.

  56. luke

    Dutchman Says:
    January 30, 2010 at 22:30

    Yeah luke, but there are enough players avaible who are better than denilson or almunia!
    ————–

    Who? How do you know theyre available? I agree Denilson and Almunia are not arsenal class but do you KNOW that there are imrpovements for sale right now and if so, may I ask how?

  60. Dutchman

    Luke ,come one. There are many players who are avaible. Why do you defend wenger??? I know that for a 10 million bid affelay can come to arsenal, he is a class act!! Thats an example, smalling is a lot better than silvestre, and we were to late!!

  63. luke

    Samir, you keep saying there are players who are available yet you do not name anyone. Who is available that you know besides an unproven 20 year old CB who has fucked up in every game he has played in this year that costed 4 million more than vermaelen. Why would we buy another attacking midfielder in Affelay, we have too many of those, we need a CF.

  66. Samir

    Dutchman;
    Bendtner is struggling for fitness Wenger said.
    I would be surprised if he started, especially after all this “I believe in Arshavin changing the game” stuff Wenger has been saying….

  67. Dutchman

    Luke, i follow PSV in whole my life, and affelay plays in a denilson role but affelay is a lot better, and don’t say that he is attacking minded because you do not follow them!! Luke, come on every arsenal fan knows that there are a lot of players avaible better than denilson, Wenger is stubborn and he will not say that denilson isn’t good enough because of his stubbornis, wenger will always prove people wrong!

  70. David

    “We have a team. If we have to add one, even at 30 [million] we can do it, if not we can rely on what we have.”

    So why the fuck does this bastard keep saying Dzeko is too expensive for us?

  71. luke

    Ive seen Afellay on the national team and he plays center attacking mid, or on the wings. Sounds like Nasri, Rosicky, Arshavin etc. We need a beast of a CF:Dzeko, Cole, Chamakh etc. I dont follow PSV, I was going off of the dutch nat’l side. “Every arsenal fan knows that there are a lot of players available better than denilson”. AGAIN!? WHO IS AVAILABLE! No arsenal fan knows that because no arsenal fan is in communication with other club managers across Europe. Give me one name. You assume there are, but you dont know. Thats the third time youve said there are better players available while failing to name one!

  73. luke

    30 million ought to buy someone better than dzeko. I think he is a great player but probably worth more around 17 realistically.

  75. Dutchman

    Luke, don’t be stubborn, Readf what i say, i’am a PSV fan and affelay plays in a denilson role for PSV at the moment. You saw one match from holland where affelay played CAM and you say that he is a CAM, No he is an all rounded midfielder!! And how do you know the nthat there are no players avaible better than denilson??? You don’t know that tooo!! Remy is avaible too, he is a lot better than walcott! I’am sure that Chamakh is avaible too, when he is out of his contract in june and you pay 7 million for him Tomorrow, i’am sure bordeaux would accept that bid.

  77. Samir

    Not long away now we will have Djourou and RVP back, don’t forget Gallas on a new deal aswell.
    All three being like new signings!! :S

    Wenger will then say there’s no need to buy a striker of CB!

  78. luke

    “Chamakh…not available this transfer window” -arsenal.com
    -Wenger says if there are players better than the ones we have available, he will buy them. I trust him because he has kept his word w/ vermaelen/arshy.
    -Remember this summer when people were tearing Wenger a new one for not buying Felipe Melo, who won the biggest flop in Serie A…? Why would Wenger lie to us about players not being available? This sounds like a conspiracy theory to me…BTW, ive seen holland play upwards of 25 times, never seen afellay in a CM or CDM position. Always more of a winger or VDV type player to me.

  80. luke

    Oh yeah, about Remy. You dont know hes better than walcott because he has never been tested in a league tougher than the french league. He is also older than walcott. oh and Nice want to keep him too.

  81. luke

    Also, saying Remy is better than our second to last choice striker doesnt mean were adding a player better than the ones we have as he isnt better than RVP, Bedntner, Rosicky, Nasri, Arshavin, Eduardo etc.

  82. Dutchman

    yeah luke, but orlando engelaar is injured for psv for a long time now and he was a DM, affelay plays in that position now, tomorrow engelaar will be back so he may go play a little more attacking. But a midfield with Affelay-song-fabregas, will be unstoppable, i think that wenger will buy affelay soon. Mark my words. I must agree with you about melo etc. You have a point. We must trust wenger :)

  84. stonroy

    Luke don’t kid yourself, there were plenty of quality players available, the problem is you have to pay money for them. I like how Wenger mentions Villa is not available. Well what happens if he was? Would we have bought him? No chance in hell, he’s just being extremely manipulative of us gooners hopes. Also are you trying to say that Villa, Ronaldo and co are the next step up from Denilson and Bendtner? Please, put down the pipe Arsene.

  85. luke

    If what you say about Afellay is true than I would love Wenger to put in a bid for him. I had just never seen him in the CM/CDM position before.

  86. luke

    What CF of arsenal class was available this window. Dzeko for 37 million when hes worth 17? The only other player I know of that was available was RVN…

  89. gambon

    Define available Luke?? Most players in the world are available, at a price.

    Also nice to know you are the authority on setting prices for players.

  90. luke

    I dont know Stonroy. I really dont think he is worth 37 million, and it is a tad naive to say he is “really class” just because he had one good season last year. Wolfsburg are not doing very good at all this season. The Dzeko hype seems a little exagerated to me. Ive seen him play 4-5 times and he looks good dont get me wrong, but for 37 million…youre having a laugh.

  91. stonroy

    Samir, we hope that he signs but until he does we cannot be sure. Willy G is unpredictable and a renegade, you never know what he’s going to do.

  92. Dutchman

    I think that if we had a better goalkeeper, we had won a lot more matches. But wenger isn’t see that, a good GK is very important. Hope that wenger will buy a new GK in the summer.

  93. luke

    Gambon, I never said I was the authority on setting prices for players. I simply said that I dont think Dzeko is worth 37 million, never said I had the authority, dont know where you got that one from.

  96. luke

    Dutchman, absolutely. The first united game comes to mind where Almunia handed them that game on a golden platter. I would love to see Akinfeev or someone who could offer us some more stability. Almunia is a joke.

  97. Dutchman

    Do anyone of you guys know how i can get cards for a match from arsenal. I want togo to an arsenal match with my dad next season, how can i get the cards + hotel etc. Do anyone of you know a good site or something??

  99. luke

    How is it naive to say he is worth about 17 million. Think thats much more accurate for a player like Dzeko than almost 40 million. Didnt Kaka cost 55 million or so, Dzeko is nowehre near Kaka. We got Arshy for about 15, dont think Dzeko is anywhere near him either. He has had ONE good season. This reminds me so much of the Felipe melo debate this past summer. I am not saying we shoudlnt spend but if we are going to spend 37 million euros, buy a better player than an unproven 1 season wonder for God’s sake.

  101. Dutchman

    yeah luke, united for example, but that goal from drogba and that og from vermealen in the chelsea match, i thought that a good keeper came out and catch those balls but almunia stayed in his goal and drogba finished it beautiful but i thought that almunia was fault there. Against WHA, mannone fucked it up etc.

  102. leuteraar

    Anyone who wants Wenger to have signed Hangeland and Smalling should see the game Fulham-Villa. Awful defending.

    Dutchman go to arsenalbenelux.be

  103. luke

    David, Wenger says that Lyon couldnt pry him away for 20 million so apparently Gignac costs 20+ million, which I agree is too much for him. He isnt that good IMO.

  104. gambon

    Wenger has said he will definately not sign Balotelli.

    Dzeko is worth basically what any top class young striker is worth. If Torres was worth £24m then Dzeko is as well.

  106. stonroy

    Luke I never mentioned a figure. No one knows what that figure would be. I’m saying it’s naive and presumptuous to pretend that you do know, and for that fact that the papers have any idea in the world as to what the price would be too.

  108. David

    luke

    Thats not the point. Wenger said he is too expensive…and yet can afford to buy a 30m player.

    He is not too expensive for us…it all boils down to Wengers valuation of a player which no matter how good they are will never be 30million.

  109. gambon

    Whats all this one season wonder bollocks.

    He’s scored 60 goals in 100 games in Germany, 8 in 14 european games, and 14 in 23 international games.

    How many strikers in World football have stats like that?

  110. luke

    I dont pretend I know Stonroy. All I said was that I think Dzeko’s value is more around 17 then 37. Never claimed to know. If we spent 15 on Arshavin, spending more than twice that on a player who is not as good is out of the question.

  113. Alex

    gignac i’d say 15-20M

    balotelli atleast 30M and they don’t need the money as they’re owned by moratti and mourinho would never sell to wenger

  115. David

    luke

    thats a poor thing to say..

    We were extremely lucky to get Arshavin at that price…liverpool matched our bid and Zenit accepted it but he chose to come to us!

  116. stonroy

    I must say that news that Van Persie will be back sooner than later is another manipulation. He was holding onto that trump card till the transfer window would close, just to justify getting nobody. Classic Wenger.

  117. luke

    We were lcuky to get him at that price but it doesnt sit right buying a worse player for over twice the transfer fee.

  118. David

    Quite Right Stonroy

    I dont think its a coincidence that the news about Robbin comes out when the window is about to end.

  120. David

    luke

    You know what luck means right?

    It means on any given day Arshavin shouldve cost twice if not 3 times the amount we got him for.

    So to say it doesnt sit right to pay twice the amount of a lucky bid is not quite being realistic now.

    Everybody has to splash to get their man.

    Torres went for 25m. Rooney went for 30.

    Wenger couldve matched both bids but didnt.

  121. ManGoonian

    Ph FFS, give it a rest with your doolally conspiracy trheoroes fellas!

    The van persie news is from Holland, not the club…
    _______________________

    And though his club manager, Arsene Wenger, has cautiously set April as a projected return date, doctors in Holland connected to the national team expect him to be ready to play in seven weeks.

  122. luke

    Melo went for 20 million. Hunterlaar 20ish. Diego for 25 million. Splashing the cash doenst always work out as nice as it did for Torres and Rooney.

  123. ManGoonian

    Effin hilarious that you lot are going off at tangents all over the place…. I give it about 10 minutes before Wenger gets the blame forclimate chabge and 20 before he was the dude on the grassy knoll who REALLY shot JFK…

  126. luke

    I dont know David, hes been booed multiple times this season, and I think he was up there with melo for biggest flop in serie A. Two friends of mine support Juve and think Ferrara should be shot for his transfer activity…

  129. Lou

    MG. I was in Dallas that fateful day and I swear I did see Wenger on the grassy knoll. He was also the guy who kept frying those peanut butter sandwiches for Elvis.

  130. stonroy

    Oh please ManGonian you can choose to put out a vacancy sign on that little grey matter in your skull, but for me questioning things is far more rewarding. This is not the first time something like this has happened.

  132. Pedro

    ManG… Wenger could be accountable for climate change on account of all the hot air he’s been spouting on transfers.

    Badum ts…i’ll get me coat…

  133. Pedro

    Oh… I heard West Ham are getting a Brazilian on loan till the end of the season? They had 100k in the budget… surely it can only be Adriano?

    If so… I’d have him!

  134. ManGoonian

    stonroy;

    Why go half meausres??? Have the full labotomy my friend!!!

    The story is from Holland, not Arsenal, or perhaps Wenger, the sly old dawg, has recently purchased a Dutch media outlet to try and fox us yet again…

    Its good to question things, I rarely believe anything people on here say, but its goin a tad over board to try and suggest the RvP story is a smoke screen to cover up our lack of signings…

    Lou;

    Ah ha! So, thats where Wenger got his culinary skills from then??? :D

  136. David

    Melo and Diego did look fantastic when they started the season but somehow they went from Grace to grass very quickly.

    Ofcoarse they didnt demand those kind of transfer fees by being shyte.

    Diego single handedly took Werder Bremen to the finals of the Europa Cup and Melo looked the best DM in that Brazillian team that the Confed Cup.

    Miss management?

  138. stonroy

    Where did you read that Pedro? Wenger was probably in for him but Adriano refused to fly economy therefore Wenger deemed him too expensive… Just joking Man Goonian, :) if he did fly him over the environmental issues would be too much to bare. :)

  140. ManGoonian

    I think what could be recognised as the club, website, Wenger blowing smoke up our arses, is when he says shit like;

    “Bendy coming back is like a new signing…” Now, that I can understand fuckin Gooners off…

  142. David

    Naa ManG

    What is fucking most of us off…is him saying he can afford to buy a 30m player…and yet saying that players like Gignac are too expensive for us.

    As if Gignac would cost anything above 20m.

  143. stonroy

    What’s pished MG? Is that a mixture of pissing yourself and shatting your pants at the same time? God I hope not, I didn’t meant to go that far mate… :)

  144. luke

    David, miss management or surface level scouting? The number of games melo played for Brazil in the confeds cup could be counted on one hand.

  145. stonroy

    That’s it David. Also the fact that it’s so obvious what he’s doing he must think were stupid not to see right through it.

  146. ManGoonian

    David;

    Oh, that was just ONE example mate! I think, as you alluded to earlier (I think), Wenger has a value he puts on players and if they cannot be signed for that value (or less, ideally!) then he considers them too expensive!

    Not saying I agree with it, but thats probably what he means…

    And Gignac is no bleedin way worth £20 million…. :D

  147. luke

    “We have a team. If we have to add one, even at 30 [million] we can do it, if not we can rely on what we have.”

    Wenger would argue we dont have to add one at 30 million. Say what you will, we are in a good position right now in the league, and if we can get going, the league is ours for the taking this year. HOWEVER, I am with you in some respects David, in that I believe winning the league will be much more realistic with some additions.

  149. ManGoonian

    I think Wenger would crap himself if he had to spend £30m on one player…. It would freak him out, bless him… The way Reyes went tits up and that was no where near that amount has scarred him where big bucks signings are concerned…

    They scouted reyes for ages, had him down in all departments, apart from one glaring area; The fact he was a complete soppy arsed mama’s boy!

    Although I did like Reyes comments about the club recently…

  150. luke

    Think its a tad more mangoo. THere are two groups I think and then semi’s/finals. I could be wrong. Either way, melo didnt play every game.

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