Denilson could win player of the year / Arsenal, lucky to finish 7th

Ok, so a bit of a silly headline there, but I think it’s fair to say, there were a lot of silly comments on the blog yesterday.

Geoff and I decided to clear the spam list out the other day and give certain folk another chance to post on the site. Some have come back and played ball, sadly, it seems others still haven’t learnt to behave.

Both sections on the positive/negative side are as bad as each other. We have a poor result and the positives come on the site prepared to say anything in defense of the team even if they don’t believe it, the negative come on the site armed with statements akin to a relegation dog fight.

I can accept difference of opinion, but when I look back and see childish sniping and bitching, it makes me a little sad. Even more disrespectful is when people start abusing the authors. Geoff and I don’t give a s**t about peoples interpretation of the Magna Carta because our own version of that document is engraved here. Respect it, or blog elsewhere.

May I just remind everyone, the success of the Le Grove comments section is down to you lot treating each other with deserved respect. Don’t lower yourself to the crap I read on other people’s websites, you’re better than that.

I’m not angry guys, just disappointed… let’s make amends today.

In other news, Alex Song’s Cameroon side were unable to beat the might of Egypt, so he’ll be on a jet plane, I’m not sure when he’ll be back again… I’ve heard for United. If some of you are celebrating Song’s return because you think that’s the end of Denilson’s first run, may I just laugh in your face and point my finger at you… that’ll never happen. Now Senderos has gone, Denilson has been promoted to love child number one. He’s here to stay people! I’m so glad I don’t have to listen to people telling me about how good Song was in the ACN…

It has all gone quiet on the transfer front. Goonertalk reported the news that Loic Remy could be on his way out of Nice after fans were so disgusted with his performance, they queued up outside the ground to spit at him and abuse him. An £11mill move has been suggested. Now, not one to put a dampener on a transfer rumour… but… if he’s not good enough for Nice fans, I’ll be damned if he’s good enough for Arsenal!

Wenger has been justifying his weak FA Cup team on the propaganda tv. He reckons the Frenchman has been on the verge of injury all season. Arsene, which of our players hasn’t been in that situation all season? Kind of like the 15 players we have on the verge of greatness! Jokes aside, Willy G has put in a sterling run this year, if wrapping him up in cotton wool keeps him fit, I’ll post my Tesco’s club card points to Arsenal to help with the cost of bulk buying the white stuff.

Finally today… the news you’ve all been waiting for… yep, you guessed it… we’ve been treated to the news of a young player signing on for 10 years. Yesterday was the turn of Vito Mannone.

A player we all know wont make it at Arsenal has been given a new long term contract! Great business Arsenal, I’m so excited. Vito must be chuffed knowing he has to displace Almunia, Fabianski and Chesney! I’ve got faith Vito, I’ve got faith!

Am I the only one who has noticed we seem to save these announcements for the days after poor results?

Just before I go, I’ve been working with a t-shirt designer on some designs of the hand painted variety. I’ll hopefully be able to showcase them later in the week! I’m looking forward to showing you!

Have a great day Grovers, keep it friendly in the comments section… Jesus would have wanted it that way.

Pedro

1,510 Responses to “Denilson could win player of the year / Arsenal, lucky to finish 7th”

  1. ;) Boooom Booom Boom .. ;)

    Someone`s got “scared” away for good , lol

  2. edatom says:

    Paow! Paaooww!! Paaaooowww!!!

    In the battle between an old lap-top bequeathed to me by my great great great grand-dad vrs ultra modern gadgets et all.

  3. zorr0 says:

    Top ten?

  4. edatom says:

    well played Sabeel…I am off to read the post now.

  5. edatom

    hahaha what a super excuse… :)

  6. arsenalised says:

    Mornin

  7. zorr0 says:

    Read the post??? Is that part of the rules, Damn, never knew that! ;-)

    Arseblog raised a good point about Traore’s defending for the 3rd goal. Now is it piss poor or is he hoping the guy is going to run offside? I vote piss poor, he should have stayed with him and got a block in on the cross.

  8. Gunner UNIT says:

    Thanks Pedro i’ve been refreshing for 10 minutes

  9. Franchise says:

    Pedro u are a c*nt :D

  10. bosun says:

    top 10??????

  11. Gunner UNIT says:

    what do you do Sabeel

  12. Franchise says:

    I must admit the comments were not that bad yesterday

    I thought it was fun

  13. bnsb says:

    Buying the Belgian has saved Wenger’s job, I think.

    Gallas has played far better with Vermaelen than with Toure. And Gallas now wants to stay at Arsenal because he has an efficient, reliable partner.

    http://tinyurl.com/yfhp24y

  14. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Le Grove T Shirts, looking forward to seeing the proto types Pedro. As they say in Arabia, I buy, I buy.

    If we have a poor result against Villa then I’ll be :( , but until then I’m feeling good about this year. But some purchases before Feb would make me extra :D

  15. Franchise says:

    bosun ki lo se le?

  16. dennisdamenace says:

    Pedro – For the record, I refrained from yesterday’s angst fest, because, and I think you know, that Jesus wants me for a sunbeam 8)

  17. bosun says:

    let me go through the rules……….

  18. zorr0 says:

    Pedro, understand what you are saying about the comments, but the more rational ones from both sides of the fence are what makes this the best blog. I am guilty of getting overheated sometimes, but that is the internet for you. If we were mates in the pub we would have a beer and a laugh, but here, because we don’t really know each other it can get OTT. I do reserve the right to defend myself against other’s insults mind!

    One thing; if Fab, Song, Diaby and Denilson were all fit, Denilson would not start!

    Senderos = love child #1. Blimey, I hate to see what AW would have done to him if he did not like him then!

  19. arsenalised says:

    Sabeel i challenge you! To a duel tomorrow i will beat you to the first comment!! I hope lol

  20. Duvee says:

    If I was to go on paddypower now, what would you say the odds are of wenger signing a player(not a child) before the end of the window??

  21. Galviniho says:

    I never thought I’d say this but thank god Eboue is back as Theo is having a stinker at the mo.

    Lets hope Bendnter, Nasri and Diaby are back tomorrow.

  22. Gunner UNIT

    i work in semiconductor industry,how abt u

  23. gambon says:

    Nothing like a bit of AKB vs Doom-mongers (realists) is there Franchise!!!

  24. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    I’m Sorta with DDM. I refrained from the slag fest coz I am Jesus’s sunbeam. But you are welcome to take my place.

  25. dennisdamenace says:

    bnsb – I saw that comment on ANR, strange! Foes that plank really think under the current regime that AW is sackable??

  26. Mark C says:

    Hunterlaar rumours – anyone interested in him?
    He could do a good job for us – but he wont be first choice if all fit.

    I think the cup game showed we are very short in defensive back up.

  27. bosun says:

    franchise………… you Nigerian??

  28. gambon says:

    Duvee

    I think he may sign someone right on the last day, but i reckon it’ll be an embarassing Bischoff type.

  29. arsenalised

    i wish u all the best

    if i am able to access net without any hiccups in office,i will be dere…..depends on net connection as u know..

  30. zak says:

    If Gallas has been wrapping himself in cotton wool all season just to avoid injury why, when Wenger knew he would’nt play senderos and Djourou was injured, did he not buy a CB when he had the chance in the summer?

  31. Galviniho says:

    What puzzles me is Mr Palmer says Stilyian Petrov does nothing, clearly he does not watch football. I’d have Petrov in over Denilson anyday, he is solid and runs his nuts off.

  32. Duvee says:

    Bischoff WAS talented at the time!! He’s now playing in the portugese vauxhall conference last I heard with a persistent groin strain. Oh well!

  33. bosun says:

    I guess huntellar is still on his radar

  34. cashmoe says:

    wwwooooooooooowwwwwww i am soooo peeved i mean WTF ?

  35. I agree with the Post

    we should have swear and abuse among ourselves…

    it is not pretty to abuse eachothers among ourseleves

  36. I agree with the Post

    we should *NOT swear and abuse among ourselves…

    it is not pretty to abuse eachothers among ourseleves

  37. Franchise says:

    yeah bosun omo naija me ni

  38. dennisdamenace says:

    gnarley you old codger, not satisfied with stealing my thundrer on the Chamon/Chamone front, you now try to best me on the Sunbeam from……..swine!

  39. nadal vs murray going on :)

  40. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Sabeel do you have english spell check on your PC

  41. abey Franchise, bewakoof :)

  42. colonel mustard says:

    when is the t-window closed?

  43. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    DDM, you got the old codger bit right ;)

  44. no gg9

    what happened…

  45. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Pedro

    Could you enlarge on the T shirt bizzo you briefly mentioned.

  46. bnsb says:

    colonel,

    well before we decide.

  47. Duke says:

    Morning, yesterday was a little boring with the arguing and insults was it not?

  48. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Arrhh there you go Sabeel you’ve already corrected yourself. You are right, we should all be good chums.

  49. Duvee says:

    Pedro was giving out about the abusive blogging yesterday but he really should be complaining about the atrocious spelling about the place!!

  50. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Who argued; who insulted?

  51. Ali Saljuk says:

    Arsenal’s midfield has three spots :

    The Defensive shield infront of the back 4

    The Standard Midfield player , defending and attacking in equal amounts

    The Cesc Fabregas Position

    Now Cesc can play in all three , he can play in the front three as well , he is that good.

    Ramsey has shown he can play in all three but the front two positions are his major areas.

    Diaby excels in the top two slots and atleast has the physical presence ( own goals not counting :P ) to play in the holding role.

    Song can play in the holding role.

    Nasri and Rosicky can play in the Cesc role and Eastmond is a backup to Song.

    Now we come to the enigma. Danielson ( he cant be brazilian ) is terrible in the holding role and hopeless in the frontmost position. He marginally does well in the middle position but only when the other two carry him through the game.

    At this moment of time Ramsey cant mature soon enough , i think Ramsey and Merida havent played alot with Cesc in the lineup and they both will develope nicely if they do play with him just as he did with Edu and Vieira.

    We should grab hold of Merida , atleast he looks a decent prospect compared to Vela who has been hopeless recently.

  52. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    The pug in the dog photos is a bit like The Pass Master.

  53. gg9

    ust have a look at yesterdays posts, they were nasty..

  54. J.Sanderson says:

    Dropped you an e-mail guys, get back to me when you can!

  55. Duke

    i agree…it is was hard to digest,ego warfare on dislay here

  56. bnsb says:

    HARRY REDKNAPP has hit out at the Premier League whingers and revealed a fellow boss was suffering with “half-a-dozen s****” in his dressing room.
    The Spurs manager is fed up with pampered prima donnas who expect to walk into the team without putting in the effort.

    And he says a few more players should take a leaf out of Robbie Keane’s book instead of demanding a transfer the minute they are left out of the side.

    Read more:
    http://tinyurl.com/yezu7rx

    Who’s that FELLOW BOSS?

  57. arsenal4ever says:

    so you clown know better as Wenger? I am sure he sees something in Vito. Come on the lad is 21!!!

  58. KM says:

    glad that Song is back…..however he won’t play on wednesday so therefore DEnilson will and even i’v gotto admit that the Brazilian is not cut out to play as DM. he needs to play with a DM, not as the DM. if i was the manager i would’v bought a tough tackling motherfukker of a DM to rotate/support SONG, however with Wenger i can only hope that he gives Eastmond as a sub in the 75th min.

    when are Diaby & Nasri back?

    Diaby > Denilson

    Nasri > Walcott

  59. didee says:

    Hi Grovers, am pretty happy Song Billong is back where he belongs, plus Pedro I dont agree with you on our Italian Mob Boss, he has the goalkeeping record among our keepers this season and i think he will definitely make it

  60. arsenalised says:

    Improve the world:Rethink,Redesign and Rebuild

    thats the world economic forum theme this yr.

    I like it,and know a football club that can use that line of thinking.THE ARSENAL.

  61. murray is all pumped and fiesty..but i love nadal..

  62. cashmoe says:

    Y WUD HE PROMOTE DENILSON ? OVER DIABY ?? YH ITS TRUE I DIDNT EXACTLY LIKE HIM BUT DEN HE IS OVERWHELMINGLY BETTER DAN DENILSON !

  63. KM says:

    lol Duvee :)

    Salam Sabeel bhai, kya haal hai? who was arguing y’day?

  64. Duke says:

    Sabeel, yeah mate, I joined in with some funny remarks to try to defuse the situation, but I guess my Jack Bauer skills are not up to notch, getting older and a bit rusty, but lets see, I am going undercover with the Russians and might just shoot people in their knee caps if they don’t tell me what I need to know.

  65. Jay20h says:

    Great how we can re-new younsters contracts (Some that will never make it in the Premier league, let alone Arsenal) but cant see the glaring frailties within the squad. No signing this january then.

    Denilson is just never DMF. Not big or strong enough. He has no pace so tracking a run is never going to happen (Cant catch sidebe WITH the ball!) And he cant tackle!!

  66. Arse&Nose says:

    We missed Song badly.

    Its hard to imagine that this time last year we were slagging him off, and now our team doesnt look as solid without him!

  67. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Sabeel, about what time of the post were they?

  68. KM says:

    Didee

    the problem with Vito:

    gr8 stopper & reflexes but he’s a spiller….he doesnt get rid of the danger. i’m also not sure on Fabianski…. why Wenger didnt buy Shay Given for £8m is beyond me!!!!

    Sabeel

    yep i prefer Nadal to Murray.

    in football terms Nadal is Brazil/Spain while Murray is England/Germany ;)

  69. KM,

    See yesterdays post buddy,i think till afternoon..

    Duke,

    yes i know,i stepped in too…but when it gets personal fight,it is difficult to be heard

  70. gg9

    i think till afternoon posts yesterday,

    it got fiesty,soon after the match also…

  71. murray is leading in first set 5-2

    C`mon nadal,vamos

  72. Duke says:

    arsenal4ever, nice that you read the post and keeping with the theme of being polite and non-offensive. Good job mate.

    Seriously how old are those people? Why aren’t they in school?

  73. KM says:

    is it worth me going through y’days post :)

  74. Geoff says:

    Great Post Pedro, good morning all!

    Denilson has gone backwards, it’s time we got rid of him, start the villa game with Galas and Campbell and let Vermaelen lose in the DM role, I bet he’d be a revelation.

    As for Wenger’s lame injury excuses, that’s what a transfer budget’s for.

  75. frichie79 says:

    Werent we all jizzing in our pants when Mannone had a run of games, and put in a string of good performances??? Seriously. He has great potential, but the problem i see with the GK situation is…

    Keepers always look great depending on where they playing, ie lower leagues, relegation fights etc, only mature keepers can really do the business at the very Top…but how does a young keeper mature if all they doing is training. Eg fabianski, we all can see he can BECOME a great keeper, but if he only gets cup games (which are now fucked) how is he going to mature to take over from Almunia this season.

    Solution, send the young keepers all on season long loans, get a top quality keeper in, and Almunia goes to number 2.

  76. charybdis1966 says:

    Morning all – just about recovered from the depression of Sunday, what a come down from Wednesday night !
    Are we all just about resigned to no new players coming in by next Tuesday or is there any hope?

    For the Mankskummers game how about getting someone to manmark the Shrek? I reckon you stop him, you stop the manks, plus his brittle temperament – and hopefully a hostile atmosphere just like against last Wednesday – may result in the cunt getting frustrated and sent off.

    That would really piss of Myles palmer – his number one admirer.

  77. Arse&Nose says:

    If people are going to cut some slack for walcott returning from injury, shouldnt we cut some slack for denilson returning from a back injury?? The man scored vs Stoke, he was hardly as bad as Walcott&Vela

  78. Duke says:

    KM, no not at all, why would you want to read people offending each other and getting out of hand, I even stopped reading yesterday, so I don’t see a reason you going back and reading all that bullshit.

  79. Ademywhore says:

    Whoever wrote todays post knows more than me I thought we were top of the league

  80. Arsenal Tom says:

    morning all, yesterday was hard reading with everybody having a pop!

    arsenal4ever… have a day off mate

  81. Arse&Nose says:

    chary-shrek doesn’t get sent off in the premiership, its just not allowed. Just like Shearer got away with so much shit, englands golden boy plays by a different set of rules.

  82. sarge says:

    GK’s are definitely a Wenger blind spot. I don’t rate any of our keepers. They don’t communicate, they don’t dominate and are not consistent enough in doing the basics properly. You don’t know what type of performance you’re gonna get each game and that’s scary!

  83. transfer window shuts “this sunday”

    its like rewind of earlier frustrating transfer windows..

    still mentioning,cant depend on bendy alone 4 rest of season at all

  84. didee says:

    KM,

    I agree he is a gr8 spiller but i trust he’ll learn if given some run of games, am not saying he is faultless just not agreeing it was a wrong move to extend his contract, i believe he’ll become a GiGi Buffon. yeah, missing out on players like Given, Cana, Fellani, Cristiano, Ronaldinho and Messi when they were cheap reallly sucks

  85. i agree with Duke

    nobody go to the past,and read yest post,it fills with negative energy..

  86. edatom says:

    bnsb Says:

    January 26, 2010 at 09:32
    HARRY REDKNAPP has hit out at the Premier League whingers and revealed a fellow boss was suffering with “half-a-dozen s****” in his dressing room.

    My guess is Sam Allardyce…..

  87. Pedro says:

    Ademywhore, we’ve not been top since the weekend.

  88. E12 GUNNER says:

    Morning Fellas,good post Pedro!!

    Manyoo have joined us in the race to sign Smalling.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/ferguson-joins-battle-to-capture-smalling-1878849.html

  89. joey9 says:

    Right now, i would take huntelaar. He has van nistelrooy like qualities. Good finisher, can head, is stronger than arsha, ed, walcott and vela combined. His link up play is decent. Not too fast, but he has to be faster than ed. He’s also an out and out CF, so wenger may be able to resist the temptation to play him in CM, RB, or WF. With all the chances arsenal creates, he would score hattricks! I mean we managed 2 make Adewank look like a decent finisher with his goal return that one season.

  90. Ademywhore says:

    Stoke are NOT the pushovers some of you think they should have been

  91. sarge says:

    Chary – On Sunday we need to dominate possession in midfield and cut out the balls into the channels (that’s where the plastic bin dipper likes to operate). Do that and the game is there for the taking.

  92. Big Dave says:

    As fans do we have to accept that we can’t compete on 3 fronts come this time of the year ? as our squad is not big enough to go for the

    PL

    CL

    FA CUP

    We threw the cup 2 yr ago against man u, now either it is the injury we keep getting or something else.

    Invest in this squad, why play players out of their position, don’t make sense.

    Arsenal fc should be able to go for all 3 competion’s

  93. Pedro says:

    Title contenders are they Ade?

  94. chozzer says:

    Denilson?

  95. Ademywhore says:

    Game in hand not withstanding

  96. Arsenal Tom says:

    we suffered with the FA cup draw, if you look at the chavs, every year they seem to get a real piss easy route to the quarters before they play anyone.

    only wenger can be held accountable for the squad and team but getting 2 PL teams away in 2 games is bad luck

  97. Ademywhore says:

    its easier get a result at far more grounds than the britannia

  98. Irishgunner says:

    I’d love to see Vermaelen as a DM Geoff – maybe Sunday was a day to try that though??

  99. didee says:

    The Chavs have 1 in each hand, Ade

  100. charybdis1966 says:

    A & N – that does seem to be true, but I think it applies for any mank who plays for England – remember the FA Cup game against Leeds where Wes Brown committed yellow card foul after yellow card foul subsequent to his first and yet he stayed on.

    What did the fucker have to do to get sent off? Grapple Beckford to the floor with a half nelson ad head lock ?

    Still, if we give Shrek as much a rough ride as we did to Jaskalaainen it may wind him up as I believe that weakness in his game should be exploited.

    Unfortunately that’s probably not in Wengers style – a more pragmatic manager would probably consider man marking the Shrek though.

    The Salford Bankrupts are now truly a one man team.

  101. Arsenal Tom says:

    irish… it would allot easier just to buy a DM

  102. sarge says:

    Big Dave – the squad would be big enough if we didn’t have nine or ten players perpetually injured.

  103. Gunners The Stunners says:

    Sabeel,

    Transfer window shuts on the 1st of Feb, not Sunday as you mentioned.

  104. charybdis1966 says:

    Yeah Sarge, as long as we keep Denilson well away from the pitch and have our first choice defence playing we shouldn’t be exposed from the wide positions the way we were by the Ball wipers.

  105. murray has won first set 6-3

    C`mon Nadal..

  106. Arse&Nose says:

    chary, your right.
    Rooney is manures main weapon but also their biggest weakness, he can be got at.

    This is why its important to have Song back, no other midfielder in our squad can rough up players.

  107. Geoff says:

    Irish most people think it’s heresy to break the centre back up, but I think it could be the answer, we may get more solid at the back as well.

  108. Irishgunner says:

    AT – And displace Denilson 8O

  109. charybdis1966 says:

    I tell you what A & N, if we had someone like Vivas he’d stick in a few snide late tackles that would, if sly enough to go unnoticed, wind him up and get him sent off, with any luck.

    Of course the crowd at the Grove have to make it a pit of hatred and bile directed at ole 65% proof noses miserable rabble of cunts.

  110. Irishgunner says:

    Geoff – Would you play Song and Vermaelen?

    I.E. Song, Vermaelen and Fabregas

    Or would it be Vermaelen, Fabregas, Rosicky/Ramsey?

  111. nishanth says:

    Really scared about tomorrow’s game.The thought of denilson chasing ashley young or milner is scary

  112. Arsenal Tom says:

    irish… silly me!! lol

    rosicky and nasri should all play of denilson. now theo’s back hopefully it should start happening if diaby/fab is injured

  113. Pedro says:

    Ade, Chelsea’s game in hand?

    I don’t think it works like that… I don’t think we can technically be top of the league. You have to have enough points to go top.

    As for your Stoke statement, have a bit of ambition… you’re making excuses.

  114. Geoff says:

    Irish I would play Vermaelen, Cesc and Rosicky/Diaby/Nasri then use Song and Vermaelen as competition and back up and rest.

  115. Geoff says:

    Ade, change your name!

  116. sarge says:

    Chary – That’s where Grimandi used to be effective. Slight niggly digs and could give as good as he got. We miss that type of back-up player. No great shakes but a good spoiler.

  117. nishanth says:

    Vermaelen could be a really good DM.But i don’t want to break up the Gallas and vermaelen CB pairing.They are excellent together.I know we have conceded a lot of goals but i think we could have avoided that if we had a better keeper.Song should continue as our DM

  118. Johan says:

    Good morning all!

    Pedro

    What makes you think Crabman Denilson will keep on playing? You can’t mean in the holding role now do you?

    Ali

    Nice comment about the midfield, I totally agree..

    Finally, I spoke with ET a bit about it yesterday, what do you think of Sol on the starting lineup versus the Chavs to take care of Drogba?

  119. KM says:

    i agree with the call to get Huntelaar in on a 6months loan…he’d be happy because he needs gametime to get into the Dutch team and imo Bendtner is not ready to lead us to the title yet. however i dnt think anything is going to happen in the transfer market. if wenger wanted to do something he would’v already done it…i just get a feeling that we’r going to do jackshit in the window.

    Didee

    although i like Mannone too as a shot-stopper, we cant afford to let him ‘learn’ in the 1st team. in the carling cup or FA Cup fair enough, but not in the league and Champions league. We’d be shooting ourself in the foot.

    i also believe that Vela could do with a loan nxt year . he needs more regular games than what he’s getting atm at Arsenal. maybe a 6 months loan nxt season if we have Rvp, Eddy, Bendtner & Arshavin fit nxt September.

  120. KM says:

    is DIABY back 2moro?

  121. Pedro says:

    Johan, where there’s a fit Denilson, there’s a way…

  122. Big Dave says:

    Diaby injured, big loss for the villa match

  123. charybdis1966 says:

    Oh yes Sarge, Grimey was good at that too – again we go back to one of the flaws in the balance of Wenger teams, too many creative players and not enough destructive ones.
    You’d a thought someone like Wenger who’d lived in Japan would understand the concept of Yin and yang.

  124. Arsenal Tom says:

    KM… dont think so, but wenger will do a press conference later and confirm

  125. Irishgunner says:

    That sounds good Geoff – Vermaelen and Rosicky would both get stuck in

  126. Johan says:

    Pedro, now that sounds a bit bitter coming from you! But somehow I think you’re right. I bet Eastmond, Denilson and Cesc in the midfield.

  127. RockyPires says:

    Debilson will play against Villa but surely against MAn U it will be
    __Cesc__Song__Ramsey

    If Ramsey s starts V Utd I back him to score and then we will see Neville give him the finger for not joining them.

    Denilson should be ok aginst Villa as they are not very aggressive in midfield and not very powerful either. I see midfield being a technical battle and us coming out on top.
    _Young__Petrov__Milner__Downing
    is not a midfield to be afraid of and with Cesc__Deni_Ramsey we should have too much for them.

    Villas main dangers are Abongalhore’s pace and Dunne/Collins from set pieces.
    WE should cope with Young and Abgon pace with Gallas-Verm and Clichy . Diaby will be missed for setpiece defence as will Campbell but we must try and limit their effectivness.

    I think we will beat Villa but its ours to loose by lack of intensity.

  128. KM says:

    Pedro

    the injury list needs some TLC ;)

  129. B.B.K. says:

    Have a great day Grovers, keep it friendly in the comments section… Jesus would have wanted it that way.So would arseneal wenger

  130. Pedro says:

    Johan, I speaketh the trutheth…

    He’ll play next to Song and Cesc, I guarantee it.

  131. Pedro says:

    KM, if you can get me the update, I’ll sort it out!

  132. Johan says:

    KM & AT

    I don’t think Diaby will be back for the Manc game either tbh. Considering how our injuries have been affecting the squad I’d say a couple of weeks.

  133. gazzap says:

    There is always negativity the day after a defeat. We dont tend to take losing very well. I hope a bit more balance has returned today because its a shame to lose sight of all the good stuff Arsenal have been doing lately.

    But my commnets on Denilson still stand, and they were not a reaction to the match. I have consistently said he is not good enough for Arsenal for around 2 years.

  134. Gunner UNIT says:

    Who’s better Denilson or Lucas?

  135. Johan says:

    Pedro

    I hear ya. But honestly, Song playing two big games in three days sounds a little ‘Un-Wengerish’.

  136. nishanth says:

    Lineup against villa
    Almunia
    Sagna Gallas Vermaelen Clichy
    Denilson
    Ramsey Cesc
    Arshavin Rosicky
    Eduardo
    Unless there are any injuries i am sure this will be the lineup tomorrow

  137. Henry14 says:

    Morning all,

    I was one of the ones that got a bit heated yesterday – so apologies for my comments if i offended anyone.

    I think we’ll win tomorrow night – 0 – 3.

    We badly miss Song in the middle and although i wasn’t his biggest fan last season – we also miss Diaby big time.

    The best line up is playing Nasri or Rosicky with Diaby Song and Fab with Ramsey coming off the Bench or if one of the 3 need a rest.

    The midfield is so much more balanced with these players.

    Song back for Man U – i personally hope the big man cut’s rooney in half!!!

  138. gazzap says:

    Pedro, whilst its hard to know if Den will get in the side on current form when Song returns, what I do know is that there is absolutely no chance of him being cast aside by Wenger. As you say, he is wenger’s number 1 pet project.
    I think wenger can get over his love children – he did with Senderos, but it takes time.

  139. B.B.K. says:

    Who’s better Denilson or Lucas? neither of them.

  140. Gunner UNIT says:

    I believe we paid quite alot for the piece of crap too gazzap

  141. sarge says:

    Denilson reminds of Sunday morning kids football (in a lot of ways in fact). He always gets a game cos he’s the manager’s son even though everybody knows he’s shit.

  142. nishanth says:

    Lucas has been playing well recently.Tough call though

  143. Henry14 says:

    Lucas and Denilson are totally different types of players – i would take lucas as a back up DM over song any day

  144. zak says:

    Geoff why not play a diierent formation ie 5 3 2 Just an idea

    Sagna Campbell Gallas Vermy Clichy

    Rosicky Fab Arshavin

    Bentner Eduardo

    Has a good attacking look to it and not a bad defensive one.

  145. Henry14 says:

    Apologies i meant denilson

  146. KM says:

    my team against Villa would be :

    Back 5

    Eastmond FAB Denilson

    Rosicky Eddy Arshavin

    Subs: Walcott for Rosicky
    Nasri for Eastmond (65th min)
    Bendtner for Eddy

  147. RockyPires says:

    I believe that will be the team also nish.
    Any word on Bendtner??

  148. Gunner UNIT says:

    over song? are you sure henry?

  149. GoonerJim says:

    Guys!!!!!!!!!!!! Much as i rate Song atm, he also lacks pace like Denilson and has got done for pace on occassions too. I’m not sticking up for Denilson, but i remember when he first came to Arsenal and he played against sp**s in the carling cup, his tackling was hard and good! So whats happened to him? Has Wenger coached it out of him?

  150. RockyPires says:

    Henry14 Lucas over Song ?????????

  151. Henry14 says:

    Gunner UNIT – i meant Denilson :-)

  152. gazzap says:

    I thought denilson was cheap?

  153. Gunner UNIT says:

    Apologies. Have you noticed that we hardly get to see Nasri & Rosicky in the same team. One of them is usually injured when the other is fit

  154. Henry14 says:

    GoonerJim – None of the great DM’s have a lot of pace.

    Essien is a monster but not the quickest, Neither was Makelele

  155. GoonerJim says:

    Also is Wenger to blame for Vela’s and Theo’s lack of form and confidence? Being played out of position can’t help a player……..can it?

  156. nishanth says:

    RockyPires – Should be fit enough to be there on the bench.Wenger said bendnter was just short for the stoke game so he should be available for this one.

    KM-Why would you want to play denilson ahead of ramsey.And also nasri is still not available

  157. Pedro says:

    Gazzap, that’s spot on.

    People point to Song as a case study for not getting rid of players… but what have we won during the 2 years of his growth as a player? Nothing…

    Ok, Denilson might come good, but that didn’t help is win the FA Cup did it?

    I won’t be celebrating that loss in 2 years time when he does come good. There needs to be a balance between developing players and competing.

  158. KM says:

    dnt Wenger will change formation now…this is set in stone! Diaby is a bigger loss than say Denilson because the former has been playing very well lately and is a gr8 asset.

  159. Gunner UNIT says:

    yes gooner jim. even thou song doesn’t have pace , he makes up with desire and effort, he wouldh’ve fouled Sidibe for sure

  160. Henry14 says:

    Vela i can see making it – not so sure on Walcott…..

    Although i would love to see him start coming on. I like him as a player and it kills me that spud midget lennon is producing now.

  161. KM says:

    Nishanth

    because i know Wenger will play DEnilson..its a gut feeling ;) however if Nasri is still out then Ramsey will replace Eastmond l8r on.

  162. Arse&Nose says:

    Man utd play everything through Evra, Valencia and Rooney. We will need Sagna to be on top form, and have the guy in front of him covering back.

    If Bendtner was fit, I’d put him up against Evra and he would destroy the twat in the air. I’d put Arshavin up against Rafael who has a knack of giving away free kicks and getting booked.

  163. zorr0 says:

    Song will not play at VP. He will play on Sunday alongside Fab and Diaby. Denilson benched.

  164. Franchise says:

    here are some of the other suggestions given by you guys in my How do you solve a problem like denilson poll? :D

    trust him
    be patient untill he emulate song…..
    leave him alone
    Sell him
    Put him in the womens team!
    Fuck him off to Midflesboro!
    Sell him
    Pitch Forks and Torches
    sell him for a profit and BUY A PROVEN CDM!!!!!!!!!!
    buy him a ticket to go on holiday with luvduplooser.

  165. Johan says:

    GJ

    I’m pretty sure that we will never see the potential of Theo in the current system.

    He tried to convince everyone early in the season that the system would fit him better but it has been the very opposite, part of his problems are of course due to his injuries but he seem to be frustrated on the pitch and honestly, his passing is piss poor atm.

  166. nishanth says:

    Its either eastmond or denilson.Ramsey will surely start(If diaby is not fit).Wenger will surely go for the experience and crapiness of denilson

  167. GoonerJim says:

    Henry14 – DM’s need positional sense more then pace, but our style of play leaves huge gaps in our defence, eg everton home, stoke away

  168. Geoff says:

    Zak, interesting!

    Pedro, spot on, he may come good like Song did, but why do we have to go through the pain of 4 years of shit.

    Why not just have a player that can…play now?

  169. sarge says:

    Pace isn’t that important as a DM. It’s your positional sense and ability to read the play that’s important. Pace is important if you don’t have the other two qualities.

  170. nishanth says:

    buy him a ticket to go on holiday with luvduplooser

    Hilarious

  171. Gunner UNIT says:

    How about fuck him of to the spuds franchise

  172. Henry14 says:

    Gooner Jim i agree however – however it has worked up to now.

    Since Song left we have conceded 7 goals. Before he left we kept it much tighter and we were keeping clean sheets.

    We will always play this way so there will always be gaps.

    Personally i would rather see Sagna and Clichy staying back more, the bomb down the wings and sometimes get caught.

    But we must be the only club in world football who have 2 full backs that attack and NEVER find a man with there final ball.

  173. KM says:

    Diaby’s development was very slow, however since the start of the season he hasnt looked back.

    Denilson development has been a bit puzzling….he has a run of gr8 games and then looks totally awful for the nxt few games and then again looks gr8….very strange. At this moment he is 4th in the pecking order for the midfield spots imo. Fabregas, Song & Diaby, then Denilson but Ramsey is catching up on him and is preffered to Denilson when Fabregas is injured/rested and now Eastmond is getting some games as Song’s understudy so therefore Denilson needs to buck up.

  174. Geoff says:

    What ambition has Mannone got? number 4 and 2 people his own age ahead of him. He has no fucking chance.
    The only thing that could be keeping him is money, and Wenger just throws that at players, if he got rid of half of them we would be able to buy at least 4 world class players with the money. At least.

  175. nishanth says:

    I never thought song would make it.But then he started featuring in the first team last season and was crap for 6 months but then he has improved a lot(I am not suggesting that not buying a DM last season was a good idea).Denilson has had oppurtunities for nearly 2 years but has gone backward

  176. SUGA3 says:

    morning Groverz ;)

    great post, Pedro – yes, it was a bit of a bitchfest y’day, wasn’t it?

    we’re in the final straight of the window – spend, spend, spend!

  177. Gunners The Stunners says:

    Henry14,

    It’s not that I’m trying to defend Vela, Theo or any othet player but how would you perform when you spend 85 mins warming the bench and then you’re brought on the pitch in the last few mins of the game and you’re expected to show your talent in those few mins. Even, Messi won’t be able to show any skills in those few mins.

    The players who spend every game sitting on the bench for 80+ mins should at least play a game probably once in a fortnight for reserves just to be mentally ready for the 1st team matches…

  178. GoonerJim says:

    I think vela, theo and eduardo aren’t suitable for the 4-3-3 formation. They play better off a big man upfront. Vela and Bendtner were awesome in a pre-season game, (can’t remember the opponents)

  179. Henry14 says:

    KM – i read somewhere that Denilson has made over 100 Apps for us……that’s a lot of game time.

    He hasn’t improved after 100 games for me – that’s not good.

    Also if you put him on the transfer list how many big clubs would be interested in signing him? I can tell you now – NONE.

    Diaby at times this season for me has looked like he is going to become one hell of a player.

    I totally agree though, we shouldn’t be bringing this many players through at the same time, we should have maybe 4/5 players coming through and have a team of ready mades that they can learn from.

  180. SUGA3 says:

    Denilson’s good games coincide with having calming presence of nurse Alex behind him…

    not a DM, period…

  181. gazzap says:

    Denilson was in the first team way way before Song. He has played a lot of games. someone correct me if I am wrong but he made the most appearances of any Arsenal player last season.
    Song came later, only started playing for the first team regularly this season, and has comprehensively overtaken Denilson.
    Den’s development has been non-existent. He is no better than he was 2 years ago, and he wasn’t good enough then.
    If wenger insists on keeping the faith with players who have had this long to get good, then that is a key reason why Arsenal have not won a trophy.

  182. Johan says:

    Geoff

    I get the feeling that managers that have been with their team too long get an urge have their pets. Big difference between Fergie and Wenger really is that Fergie goes to the store and spends shitloads of money on his pets while Wenger is more incline to to the backdoor of the store and ask for unshaped material to sit down and try and craft his own.

    Forcing Wenger not to play his pets would be like robbing an old man of his hobby!!

    You wouldn’t want -that- now? (Oh yeah, feel the sarcasm. :) )

  183. KM says:

    lol Franchise

    Denilson cant nail a spot down in the mens team so my pick: put him in the women’s team…hopefully he can nail something

  184. Simon says:

    I agree Geoff, I said yesterday I thought Sol played well and could partner Willy, with TV at DM. I’d play Song too though, with Cesc….. It probably got lost in all the swearing and tantrums that were going on.

  185. Franchise says:

    37% of the pollers ;) believe that we should bench him until Dean Ashton returns to professional football

  186. Geoff says:

    A point well made Johan!

  187. Duke says:

    Henry14, I think Sanga started developing good crosses for RvP, but since Robin got injured there is no one to cross to. So many times I am screaming “GET IN THE FUCKING BOX” and Arshavin is the closest player to the goal just outside the penalty box, disgrace. I am not saying Sagna is a good crosser, he is not, but he would look much better if there actually was someone to cross to.

  188. gazzap says:

    KM, I would much rather see Eastmond or even Coquelin given those chances that Den gets. They have talent, and they are developing very quickly.
    Eastmond put 100% effort it, and he wins headers and generally gets in the oppsition faces. He might not have a ton of skill, but you dont need that in the DM position.

  189. didee says:

    KM,
    I agree the time of learning is over, moreso the spanish waiter seems to be making a flump, loan might be ok at this stage. however, with song and nikki.B back looks like we’ve got the two new signing we’ve always wanted so quit bitching grovers

  190. Irishgunner says:

    “he may come good like Song did” – So good I’m thinking of getting a Song jersey :D

    Any ideas what team the Mancs will play tomorrow night against Manchavs?

  191. edatom says:

    Jeoff…I think Song can interchange, or swap with Vermaelin to form a solid defensive wall, as Song himself is not a bad central defender.

    My team for the coming days, as in vs Villa, ManUre, Chavs and the Bindippers

    Almunia

    Sagna……….Song………Gallas……….Clichy

    Cesc…………..Vermaelen………….Diaby………

    Rosisky…………..Eduado……………..Asharvin

  192. rayman says:

    As the link to him has been revived in the press today just looked at some of huntelaars you tube stuff. Not sure whats been going on with him that anyone would look to loan him out but he has scored some amazing goals, including at milan and real, headers, shoots equally well with both feet, dennis-like control and chips and about 7 of his top ten goals were over head kicks. Surely he would be infinitely better than eddy, theo and vela. A front line of him, nik and arsh for the rest of the season would be a lot better than what we are facing.

  193. RockyPires says:

    I think the left hand side would suit Theo better and was shouting at him to cross over to the left V Stoke. He had his best chance against Olypiakios on the left suits cutting in onto his right rather than going wide all the time and given away goalkicks and running down cul de sacs

  194. SUGA3 says:

    Simon, Geoff,

    I don’t think Sol is capable fitness-wise to play two tough away games in the space of four days…

    does he have enough in the tank? don’t think so…

    then again, I may be wrong ;)

  195. Franchise says:

    sorry guys i missed 2 out hahahaha :lol:

    Sell him to City for £15m
    swap him for a shaved ‘brazilian’

  196. nishanth says:

    Wenger is saying that wilshere will surely go on loan.Hope he goes to west ham

  197. KM says:

    Goonerjim

    thats exactly what i was thinking y’day while watching ACN. Eddy, Theo & Vela are victims of the new formations Also the problem is Eddy, Vela & Theo are way too short to succeed in the premier league without playing nxt to a big fukker like Bendtner/Rvp. However they’l have to do. I honestly believe that Walcott would do well tearing after the ball through the middle with just the last defender to beat rather on the wing, because Theo is good finisher.

    i’d love us to send Vela on loan nxt year to aid his development and buy Hazard/Maria some proper wingers. (i know Hazard ain’t a true winger but he plays very well there because he has the intelligence to do so, whereas Walcott doesn’t)

  198. SUGA3 says:

    edatom,

    Song is nowhere near as good in CB as in DM – I think it is the presence of 2 quality defenders behind him that allows him to flourish…

  199. GoonerJim says:

    Wenger says that he wants Jack W to go out on loan for definate this month………….hope he doesn’t end up like theo!!!!

  200. Geoff says:

    Edatom I like that a lot, I would certainly give it a go.

    Suga, I think Campbell is fitter than we think, he looked solid on Sunday, it’s a shame that all around him were shit though!

  201. Gunners The Stunners says:

    Jack Wilshere will be loaned out during January “without any doubt”.

    Arsène Wenger remains eager to give the highly-rated 18-year-old midfielder a chance to gain experience elsewhere. The likes of Bolton, Burnley, West Ham and Dutch side Twente have been mentioned in the media as possible destinations.

    Nothing has materialised yet but Wenger hopes to do a deal before the transfer window closes next week.

    “I will let him go out on loan without any doubt,” said the manager before the weekend game. “I want him to go to the right club and play.”

  202. Henry14 says:

    The other thing to consider as i mentioned yesterday…..

    No other top manager would have this much patience in a player that wasn’t performing.

    Nani as case in point, he was brought for 18 mill and has had 3 years to come on….

    No fergie is going to get rid of him because he’s shite.

    Wenger needs to be more ruthless with some of these players

  203. Duke says:

    rayman, I agree, I always like Hunter, and I don’t know why he is being bullied at Milan and prior to that at Real. He still has a decent return, I can see him being a great player for us and not just a stop gap.
    Full Dutch international also. Holland coaches can’t be that stupid to play a rubbish player…

  204. zak says:

    Geoff

    Said it many times before, sell the fringe players that are never going to make it. Gilbert, Randell, Simpson, Troare, Silvsetre, Barazite, Hoyte etc Cant affect the squad as apart from Traore and Sivestre none have even been in the first team squad, 10m odd in to buy a CB cover and Botello back from loan, 100K a week saved on wages used to go towards paying the new CB SORTED

  205. gazzap says:

    I dont think Villa will be easy but I think we will win. Villa are not quite as physically tough as Stoke, Bolton or Everton – our 3 most recent oppositions. Arsenal do not like playing against that style at all.
    I think our hardest games will be away at Chelsea, Stoke, Birmingham and possibly even Hull.

    what we have to watch for with villa is their pacy counter attacks. Gallas and Vermaelen must not come forward too much.

  206. Henry14 says:

    At CB song’s pace get’s found out – that’s why he isn’t very good.

    Gallas and Super Tom are lightening quick.

  207. GoonerJim says:

    i can’t see us buying anyone in this transfer window

  208. Henry14 says:

    Zak good idea – but who the hell would buy them????

  209. charybdis1966 says:

    Just seen an Eye-tie hack on ManuSkysports say that the Spuds & Everton are most likely to take Huntelaar on loan. Not that I think he’s the best option for us, I’d rather Dzeko/Gignac or even Numbchucks.

    Don’t worry though, Bendy is back, he’s like a new signing !

  210. KM says:

    On Denilson…Wenger ain’t gonna sell him so he needs to bulk up because he gets bullied out of games so many times….but he ain’t a DM….and i believe he’d do really well in a 3 man midfield in Italy/Spain where the game is less physical……

    however once we have a midfield of:

    Fabregas Song Diaby

    we should be rotating/resting Fab for Ramsey.
    ………………………..Song for Eastmond
    ………………………..Merida for Diaby

    Denilson will have to really pull his socks up.

  211. GoonerJim says:

    am i the only one fed up with us signing 16/18 year olds?

  212. Dublin Gunner!!!! says:

    Morning guys!! Just thinking wouldn’t it be great if le boss went for Buffon (not happy at all at the old lady!) and huntelaar loan deal! If he done this I reckon we’d do the double! Please arsene don’t let Buffon go like you did Shay given!!

  213. Henry14 says:

    GoonerJim i agree. Nobody will come in, he’ll use Bentdner more.

  214. Micky Did It 89 says:

    I too like the look of your line up Edatom, altho Song won’t feature against Villa, so slot Sol in there. Also, I would start Vela instead of AA. I love AA to bits, but he does need a kick up the pants, although he would actually love the idea of coming on for just 20 mins. work!

  215. charybdis1966 says:

    The same Eye-tie hack says that Flamini has turned down ManCity as he wants a London club.

  216. SUGA3 says:

    chary,

    we don’t need Huntelaar – he would be another Eduardo: good poacher, but slow as fuck…

  217. frichie79 says:

    All those fantasising about Vermaelen as DM are wasting your time. Honestly you can bang on about it as much as you want, Wenger will never do it…ever!

  218. Arsenal Tom says:

    once arshavin has got a proper player playing CF next to him he’ll come alive again. eddie’s just too light to do it

  219. Duvee says:

    The problem with Denilson is that he has not bulked up over the past few seasons like Fabregas, Diaby and Song have. Even Ramsey is starting to look a bit stronger than last season. Once you bulk up then the rest of your game will improve with it. And if you don’t bulk then you need unbelievable pace to make up for it which Denilson just those not have. Look at the way Sidibe eased away from him on Sunday. It was like a yorkshire terrier chasing a labrador.
    Thats why he needs to play with the likes of Fab and Song to have a decent game. He will never have an outstanding game without them.
    In fairness to Denilson, he can finish and he sometimes makes them great runs from deep in midfield but its not enough for me.
    Bring in Mahamadoua Diarra. Doesn’t get on the Real team, 30 years old, and a tough midfielder. Probably could get him for less than €5m

  220. Duke says:

    GoonerJim, no you are not.

  221. Arsenal Tom says:

    suga… he’d be much better than eddie, he’s taller and got better feet, much closer to RVP

  222. Geoff says:

    Goonerjim we all are mate!

    Dublin we can always dream.

  223. bnsb says:

    duke,
    Holland coaches can’t be that stupid to play a rubbish player…

    who was the genius that had brilliant idea of playing RVP as lone forward?

  224. KM says:

    Zak

    i agree your list with the exception of Barazite…the boy has the X facor

    GoonerJim

    i agree with u. i dnt think we’l be spending this January. however i’d love us to get Hunterlaar

    Re. Wilshere loan…its taking fucking ages!! why does every transfer at Arsenal take so long!!!

    i also think its really dangerous that we have no true backup for SONG in the DM spot. Hence why Wenger needs to give Eastmond 15mins or so every game at the end ALONGSIDE Song imo so he learns his trade. someone was talking abt Coquelin….the kid ain’t nowhere near the 1st team….he doesnt work hard enough in training…thats why Eastmond is ahead of him as the backup DM. Coq has more talent but Eastmond has better attitude. Also it’l be nice to have an English lad in the squad…at least the press/media will get off our backs ;)

  225. Geoff says:

    Dzeko, that’s all we need, height, pace, presence. And knows where the fucking goal is!

  226. Arsenal Tom says:

    we’re not gonna sign a DM for a few years now.

    with song back and eastmond in and around the team thats it sorted for mr wenger. by the time the next ACN comes around eastmond will be more than ready

  227. Duke says:

    bnsb, didn’t work out too badly thought did it?

  228. KM says:

    Duvee

    ur 100% right boss…he needs to hit the gym bigtime also getting the m.Diaara would be a good short-term measure to get us quality cover at DM

  229. edatom says:

    I do not know if any one has already made this point Gazzap, but only Vermaelen and Gallas have featured in all 22 league matches so far this season for Arsenal.

  230. rayman says:

    yeah i guessed it was speed that was against huntelaar, but he is so much bigger than him, would be far better in the air than eddy and would have the strength to hold the ball up better. I can’t believe he is as slow as eddy who has to be one of the slowest forwards I have ever seen. He must be an improvement on theo and vela who are just shit. Is he as shit as those two?

  231. Duke says:

    KM, how do you know what goes on in training? Or is it just a calculated guess?

  232. frichie79 says:

    Arsene Wenger has revealed he deliberately decided to build his team around his kids five years ago because he could not compete with Chelsea’s millions.

    Since then a resurgent Manchester City has become the latest addition to the Premier League’s Billionaires’ Row.

    But Wenger is now reaping the benefits of his controversial youth policy with his rising stars in the thick of the title race.

    It was after Patrick Vieira’s penalty kick saw off Manchester United in the 2005 FA Cup final that Wenger put the Arsenal chequebook into cold storage.

    The Frenchman has used it sparingly since then, refusing to buy a ready-made replacement for Inter Milan-bound Vieira who left that summer, and instead relying on the talents of Cesc Fabregas.

    Wenger told Arsenal’s Official Magazine: “Basically it was the last year of Patrick Vieira and his very last kick for the club won us the [FA Cup] in the penalty shoot-out.

    “That was the time when we started to see the end of the Vieira era and the beginning of the Fabregas one. That was part of the reason that I let Patrick go. We had to make way for the youngsters and that period was when we made the change to go for a younger and less experienced team.

    “There was a definite moment when I sat down and decided to build our team around young players. I went with youth because I knew we would have less resources available.”

    Wenger’s policy has not always sat well with fans who believe even now that he needs to splash out on a new striker, defensive midfielder and maybe even a centre-half to give the club more of a chance of landing the title.

    The Frenchman admits he is well aware of the need to balance the fans’ expectations with his adherence to his own policy.

    But supporters have indeed been appeased by the emergence and progression of youngsters such as Aaron Ramsey, Jack Wilshere, Kieran Gibbs and Theo Walcott.

    Wenger went on: “Some competitors came in with much more financial potential – particularly Chelsea. Suddenly we went from competing well on the money side, then we were stretched.

    “The whole game changed. That influenced my decision to change the policy. There were players we were interested in, but then Chelsea would just offer more and more money until they signed them.

    “What can you do? Chelsea started to buy players at £28million, which we had never done. It was a different level of competition.

    “We had been up against Manchester United before that. Then you add another team, and another, and another. People forget how difficult it is.”

  233. Duke says:

    rayman, all excellent points, he must be better than all 3 of Eddie, Vela and Theo.

  234. Pedro says:

    Bnsb, you thought playing RVP up front was a genius idea?

  235. bnsb says:

    bnsb, didn’t work out too badly thought did it?

    did it? for whom??

  236. Dublin Gunner!!!! says:

    Am I the only one who doesn’t really rate Nicky B?! I like the guy but I just don’t think I’ll be telling my daughter in years to come how good he was! What we need I really do think is huntelaar, sugar you were saying that he is not that fast but either was king Denis!! Look how good he was!!

  237. Duvee says:

    What about Carlton Cole guys?

  238. Pedro says:

    Duvee, he’s played less games than RVP over the last 4 years.

  239. dennisdamenace says:

    Lucas is utter shite, but he’s better than Denilson!

  240. edatom says:

    Suga3…..nearly two seasons ago, Vs ManUre….I recall Song having a blinder, and I reckon, given games to prove his worth, he will come thru with flying colours….

  241. bnsb says:

    Pedro,
    :twisted:

  242. Johan says:

    Henry14

    And old man and his hobby or a nursemaid and nursery.. Either way I think there’s some disciplinary ability that Wenger has lost since some of his players never perform on the pitch nowdays.

  243. zak says:

    Arsenal Tom

    We need better back up/rotation for Song, I’m sure Eastmond will be good in 2/3 seasons time but we need better cover now. Someone that won’t “kill” Eastmond, someone coming to the twilight of his career someone Eastmond and Song can learn from, Someone with experience, Viera anyone, OH no we let him go to City. If Campbell was offered a contract then why not Viera? or if not someone in the Viera mould.

  244. KM says:

    Duke

    i’v been a regular reader of youth blogs for abt 3years now and there’s a lot of guys in the ‘know’ there.

  245. bnsb says:

    ddm

    that would mean den is utter utter shite.

    How low can people go :)

  246. Pedro says:

    KM, did you just use blogs as your guide for the inside line?

  247. Duvee says:

    OK so I am wenger and I am playing football manager. Into my filter I am putting in:
    Likelyhood of injury: 1
    Height: 6’2″+
    Pace: 15+
    Heading: 15+
    Finishing: 15+
    Hold up play: 15+
    Disappointed when RVP returns: 1

    Search result: None found.

  248. Henry14 says:

    Zak, Viera would have been an awful purchase.

    Maybe for the dressing room, but he’s already got a calf injury and is being paid £150K a week at city!!!

    He played 32 games in 3 and a half years for Inter he would have been a terrible, terrible aquisition for Arsenal.

    Campbell on the other hand, i was at the stoke game on sunday and i thought he played well. Rusty in some places but he’s still a beast and is good cover for us.

  249. charybdis1966 says:

    Dublin, DB10 was fast – I remember reading somewhere he was 3rd quickest in the squad around the Invincibles time – I think TH14 and Cashley were the only ones quicker.

  250. didee says:

    Dzeko, Huntelaar…daydreams my comrades we aint seeing nothing this winter and am bracing myself already for the summer excuse of the “surge in players price” after the world cup. I stay +ve on the EPL though, provided AW gets the mix right

  251. Duke says:

    Meeting, catch you guys later.

  252. 78692 says:

    !!!BREAKING NEWS ON SKY SPORTS NEWS!!!

    FULHAM ACCEPT MANYOOS BID FOR CHRIS SMALLING.
    ARSENAL BID REJECTED.

  253. rayman says:

    If I was a bolton, burnley or west ham fan I wouldn’t want Jack on loan, he will do nothing to help keep them up. He is not ready for the premiership, not with us, not with anyone else either.

    He has not proved himself enough at reserve level, his goal scoring ratio is rubbish for an attacking player, he is physically too weak. He and the coaches don’t even seem to know where his best position is – all they know is that he is very talented, thats not enough to get a first team place at clubs fighting relegation. They have no room for luxuries like that, they need effective fighters.

    If he goes on loan to a premiership club he won’t get a game. Division 1 is far more likely but I would worry that he will have the shit kicked out of him and learn nothing, he should stay with us and try to really prove himself in the reserves / with sub appearances for us when we have games under control, while he works hard in the gym.

  254. KM says:

    zak

    i agree with u, but i think Eastmond is planning to gradually ease his way into the team like Ramsey.

  255. Arsenal Tom says:

    duvee… ruled out by wenger cos he’s injured, zola’s probably holding him back to fend off interest

  256. KM says:

    correction = Wenger is planning to gradually ease Eastmond into the team like he did with Ramsey

  257. bnsb says:

    Rusty in some places but he’s still a beast and is good cover for us.

    had some good headers too, rarity in our team otherwise.

  258. 78692 says:

    ACCORDIND TO SKY SPORTS ITALIA.MATHIEU FLAMINI WANTS TO LEAVE AC MILAN AND JOIN A LONDON CLUB.

    WENGER WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR????

  259. Geoff says:

    Well done Arsene, another one bites the dust, still if we extend Nordveit and Bartley’s contract it will make it all better.

  260. KM says:

    Pedro

    ur one of my facebook ‘friends’. have a look in my friends list and u’l find most of the Arsenal reserve and u-18 players there…i chat quite a lot to Yilmaz Aksoy and Ben Glasgow (the full back)

  261. Henry14 says:

    I am gutted about Chris Smalling. He should have got him, he’s 6ft 4 and looks a good prospect…

  262. Pedro says:

    Geoff, I think 786 is making up stories.

  263. Johan says:

    78692

    You’re assuming that Wenger made a bid in the first place. I’m not so sure of that..

  264. KM says:

    ManU were quick….why do Arsenal take so long in everything!

  265. Franchise says:

    78692 never mind we’ve got SOL :roll:

  266. Henry14 says:

    When you think about it guy’s, we are all so desperate for new players to come in that we have actually resorted to mentioning names like:

    Viera, Diarra, Huntelaar

    These aren’t actually players we would really want if we were honest.

    We are so starved of new faces – we would actually take anything.

    It’s a joke really.

  267. Arsenal Tom says:

    zak, unfortunately its not gonna happen now mate! eastmond’s shown allot of promise this year and could have a giibs-esqe season next if song got injured, i think year as a first teamer is a year too early but its good to know he’s there if needed.

    if it was gonna happen it would have been vieira

  268. KM says:

    ok…i cant find anything on this story?

  269. Arse&Nose says:

    Man utd don’t need a scouting network, they just look at the players we are going to bid for and throw in extra money at them before we get a chance.

  270. Johan says:

    Pedro,

    The United bid on Smalling is on SkySport, but the fact that Arsenals bid would have been rejected is nowhere to be seen.

  271. SUGA3 says:

    786,

    fucking hell, well done Wenger…

  272. Pedro says:

    KM, it’s not a story.

    Man U haven’t bid on him.

    The guy is from Kent, if he’s going anywhere, it’s us…

  273. GoonerJim says:

    “NB52 will be like a new signing” ……..not IF, but WHEN will we see this headline on Propoganda.com?

  274. Pedro says:

    Guys, stop reading 786′s story… he made it up.

  275. Duvee says:

    Henry

    Excellent point. And thats why it’s ridiculous the abuse Wenger is getting.

  276. Johan says:

    Arse&Nose

    It sucks doesn’t it? Fecking cunts..

    I’m pretty sure Vidic will be sold, so I guess this is Fergie actually buying a young cover BEFORE selling his player.. Feels like Wenger could learn a thing or two about that.

  277. Franchise says:

    why are you guys upset I thought we were tired of signing inexperienced kids?

    8)

  278. Arsenal Tom says:

    i think our interest forced man utds hand, rio’s in line for a ban as well so they need the cover

  279. frichie79 says:

    LOL, While I wouldnt mind Huntelaar joining us, even on loan, I dont understand why some fans think he is likely to come in and win us the title.

    He was a youngster with great potential at Ajax, but since his big club move has never once produced the goods.

  280. Pedro says:

    Joham I can’t find the story… and if it’s on the news, so was our bid the other day.

  281. Franchise says:

    tie break nadal up 5-1

  282. Arsenal Tom says:

    10.51 Sky Sports News understands that Fulham have accepted a bid from Manchester United for centre-back Chris Smalling.

  283. KM says:

    786

    london club = spurs maybe??

    i’m with u…Wenger should bury the pride and get Flamini.

  284. Johan says:

    Franchise

    Good Point, -BUT-, fact is, most people are tired of 16 year olds coming in, not 20 year olds with Premier League experience. I’d say there is a distinguishable difference.

  285. Arse&Nose says:

    thats another 10m added to man utds debt.
    Including 10% interest payment on their debt.

    Teams like Man utd should have a transfer ban imposed, they are spending beyond their means and deserve to go bankrupt.

  286. GoonerJim says:

    another one bites the dust……….we are too slow off the mark and now utd have a bid accepted by fulham for smalling

  287. LuvDup Loner says:

    Flamini is on 5.6 mill Euros after tax!!! No wonder he fucked off!

    United have had a bid for Smalling accepted by Fulham now!

    And Pedro;

    Who the fuck says Mannone will not make it??? Are you a top goal keeping coach? Course you aint, you are as preone to ludricrous scapr goating a pre judging as any of the rabid doomers on here…

    Shame on you… Way out of line and I expectred better of you…

    am game would think differently…Anyone who was at the Fulhm

  288. dennisdamenace says:

    Pace & Power is what we lack up front, none of our current forwards give us that combination….

  289. Johan says:

    Pedro

    It’s on the SkySport transfer clockwatch.

    But it does say ‘SkySports understands that…’ So there’s no confirmation anywhere. But it does sound a little more real than, ‘Arsenal are believed to be interested in…’.

  290. Arsenal Tom says:

    theres more chance of me signing for the arsenal than flamini

  291. KM says:

    yep

    Smalling is Vidic’s replacement for nxt year. Apparently Mrs Vidic wants to move to Spain. probably Madrid. Strange that most ManU players end up at Real Madrid and Arsenal players go to Barca ;)

  292. DaHustler says:

    where the hell are our signings??? Still nothing….FFS!!!!

  293. B.B.K. says:

    arsenal shuld put in another bid and see if united are willing to waste more money

  294. rayman says:

    Not going to get upset if we missed out on smalling, we need a CF more urgently and I have had enough of young kids with potential even if he has played a few first team games. He might be good cover for our CBs but he won’t be a deciding factor on winning the title or not, while us getting an experienced CF could be.

  295. frichie79 says:

    Sky sports UNDERSTANDS…Whatever!

  296. Micky Did It 89 says:

    I reckon there will be alot of transfer activity on the last day. Maybe we could offer David Dean a days’ work on friday.

  297. Gunners The Stunners says:

    Pedro,

    There is some truth in what 786 said. Apparently SSN understands that the bid from ManU has been accepted by Fulham. See it yourself,

    http://www.skysports.com/football/transfer_clockwatch

    But we all know how accurately SSN understands… :D

  298. B.B.K. says:

    there won’t be no signings coming to arsenal songs back and so is bendtner ,thats good enough for wenger

  299. Johan says:

    Arse&Nose

    Totally agree.

    There should be EU standard transfer regulations that forces club to spend ‘within their means’ including debts.

  300. Duvee says:

    LuvDup, no need for the language and for godsake use your spell checker.

  301. DB10 says:

    Sky Sports News understands that Fulham have accepted a bid from Manchester United for centre-back Chris Smalling.

  302. LuvDup Loner says:

    Well that last bit fucked up didnt it!

    And Smalling’s bid has been accepted, dont mean he is off to United…. We just have to match their bid…. So, thats really goin to happen isnt it! :D

  303. SUGA3 says:

    LUL,

    have you seen enough of Mannone to say he will?

    I have seen enough to say he’s pants…

  304. KM says:

    lol @ Luvd up

    a bit strong there……

  305. Henry14 says:

    I liked Flamini – but 1 good season and he then fucked off for 90K a week – showed no loyalty and you lot want him back?

    Good player but i wouldn’t take him back now he’s failed at Milan and isn’t a first team regular.

    He made his bed and all that….

    Only my Opinion.

  306. Franchise says:

    Johan the dude has made 1 pl appearance

    1 FFS :D

  307. DB10 says:

    What the hell was AW waiting for? It looked like he was interested in this lad

  308. LuvDup Loner says:

    Sky Sports understood that Flamini was a dead cert to go to City last week…

  309. Henry14 says:

    7M is worth a punt on Smalling – i would have liked him to come in.

    I think we need experience just not at CB!!!

  310. Arsenal Tom says:

    sol, bendy and theo are our new signings

  311. Micky Did It 89 says:

    Whoever said that we who bang on about Verm as DM are wasting our breath does have a point as it does not look like AW will do it. However, to my mind, Vermy has everything to be the best in the business in that role. Strength in the tackle, timing, positional awareness, heading and shooting. And he is a 100% man.

  312. KM says:

    well Smalling is meant to be a good talent because everyone in the England youth coaching system has been raving abt him. but if MAnU are after him it shows the boy ain’t no mug. i dnt rate Djouru i dnt think he’s good enough… so therefore Smalling would be a good purchase…however we’r now in a bidding war and it all depends on the terms Smalling is offered i guess. I hope he supports Arsenal ;)

  313. LuvDup Loner says:

    Suga3;

    No offence, but Id rather trust my nan’s opinion than yours when it comes to football… :D

    Is it because he aint a brick shit house???

  314. Pedro says:

    Skysports news understands… hmmm…

  315. Arsenal Tom says:

    micky i dont think we got got good enough cover at CB though to try it, not in the next 4 games anyway

  316. Pedro says:

    Franchise, exactly… Man U aren’t going to sign him to solve any current problems are they!

  317. Micky Did It 89 says:

    Duvee: are you sure you have spelt your name correctly?

  318. B.B.K. says:

    that elz guy that comes on here might know what’s going on with him

  319. zak says:

    Guys

    IF man U get Smalling, so what! 2 weeks ago no one had heard of him apart from the own goal against the chavs. Let them have him.

  320. Arsenal Tom says:

    if its about who offeres the best terms for this smalling kid then surely he’d come to us, after all we apparently pay our kids a fortune

  321. Franchise says:

    I would rather we go sign a 25 year old CB with CL and dutch or eyetie, spanish, prem league etc experience

  322. LuvDup Loner says:

    Suga3;

    Why soooo quick to write off an Arsenal player? You seem to have a habit of doin this… And with not much success rate either…

    As for Mannone, apart from a mistake or 2, which is understandable, he did a hell of a lot better than I thought he would when he was thrown in due to injuries…

    He is better than a lot of young keepers I have seen, IMO…

    He deserves some patience, no one is saying he is the next number 1 just yet…

    Sheeeesh, why the fuck do I need to justify having some faith in an Arsenal…???

    How fucked up is that?

  323. KM says:

    i wouldnt want Verm as the DM….he’s fine as a CB imo

  324. Arse&Nose says:

    Wenger, hire a private jet and fly from Colney to Kent. We have to get Smalling, he is the bees-knees.

  325. B.B.K. says:

    Exactly prehaps he might score another o.g on his 2nd appearance

  326. SUGA3 says:

    no, that’s because he can’t catch the ball to save his life…

  327. Franchise says:

    another verm would do for me long term

  328. Duvee says:

    maybe not Micky but its my name now and thats that. And if it is not spelt DUVEE from now on then it is spelt wrong. and by the way, you are so fine and you blow my mind.

  329. LuvDup Loner says:

    FRanchise;

    That makes sense, not! They will be happy to sit on the bench in a world cup year wont they???

  330. GMR says:

    If Man Utd sign Smalling then it’s because Vidic is off, not this window but in the summer.

    Man Utd cannot afford to buy players anymore, not unless they sell. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Rooney next out the door if another 70-80 million offer comes in. They got 80 million for Ronaldo & still only made a 6 million profit after all the interest was taken.

  331. leon says:

    a big news flash to some people who think anu will just out bad arsenal they flat broke to the bone,i fully awaer it is highly unlikely wenger will bring in anyone unless its abrgin but in the summer i hope wenger brings in another beast in midfield and a keeper maybe evon a striker but it will be most likely be a defender,right now i just think there are two 15 goal a season strikers of quality wenger want right now

  332. Micky Did It 89 says:

    Arsenal Tom: I think we do, and I also think that without Song, not only will we lose the midfield, but Cesc simply does not perform to his best. Vermy as DM would not only offer massive protection for the back four, but allow Cesc and Ros to be at their most effective.
    I do know that it won’t happen though.

  333. Gunners The Stunners says:

    Pedro,

    Now a days, SSN has become a very unreliable source for breaking news. They’re trying their best to be the 1st to break the transfer news but they forget to see whether the news is true not not…

  334. LuvDup Loner says:

    Suga3;

    I am sure if there was a gun to his head and he HAD TO CATCH THE BALL…

    But, I am not goin to justify having faith in an Arsenal player with you fella…. All you do is slate mate…

  335. KM says:

    i’d love us to get a CB in the Lucio or Nesta mode… i love those sort of defenders :)

  336. Geoff says:

    LuvDup all you do is argue with fellow supporters, have a day off.

  337. LuvDup Loner says:

    zak;

    True fella… IF he goes to United, then so effin what…?

    A striker is a more pressing position to fill, IMO…

  338. KM says:

    yep ManU are skint and they’r nxt big sale is going to be Vidic –> Madrid probably

  339. Micky Did It 89 says:

    Sorry Duvee: just don’t want to get too down on someone just because they can’t spell. Anyway, mine is shocking.

  340. Franchise says:

    LuvDup take your medication i said long term ;)

    i dont think we need any more CBs maybe we can reassess when Sol leaves

    DM and striker this January would go a long way

  341. LuvDup Loner says:

    Geoff;

    I was takin exception to pedro sayin Mannone would not definitely make it…

    Aint my fault Suga3 felt the need to jump in half cocked…

    And now you too…?

    Stop being soooo argumentative mate!

  342. Henry14 says:

    Luvdup are you joking? hahaha!

    Your the most argumentative person on this blog!

  343. insidealbania says:

    Hello Grovers,

    The window will be closing soon, and I dont think we will be making a signing. I would have preferred it had we signed a CF because that is what we seem to be lacking.
    The defence is doing a good job, and the midfield is packed, and we all know AW will not be selling or getting rid of anyone in there. The problme for us is that we have not replaced Ade. We need a big guy who can score, and B52 is not the answer YET.

    I personally do not have a problem with developing youth players, but AW needs to be mixing it up more.
    And if I am honest with myself I would have to say that this season it began to look that way. Players like Clichy, Verm, Gallas, Almunia, Cesc, Sagna, Eboue, Arsh, RVP, are not kids. Its the injuries that screwed us up and that is why AW needed to buy in the window.

  344. SUGA3 says:

    LUL,

    in your world, on the other hand, the sun shines out of the arse of any Arsenal player ;)

  345. Arse&Nose says:

    Smalling is the next big thing.

    We need to out bid Manure for him

  346. LuvDup Loner says:

    Franchy;

    Ha! Sorry fella! Didnt see that bit…

    I agree with you about Smalling too, he has featured in 1 whole prem game and now is worth £8m+??? He does tick alot of boxes, but its a lot of doe innit…

  347. LuvDup Loner says:

    Henry14;

    So, you wanna piece of me now??? :D

  348. Simon says:

    OMG, “Wilshere attende il prestito” !!!!

  349. Franchise says:

    Smalling might end up being great but IMO CB is not priority

    we need a CF and DM

    CF definitely

  350. SUGA3 says:

    well, that is my opinion – you are entitled to yours, but get off my back, ffs…

    I reckon Szczesny is the best of the lot and extending Vito’s contract is dumb idea, as he is just in Chezzer’s way…

  351. Henry14 says:

    haha, no mate :-)

    just everyone get’s a bit opinionated – sometimes it comes across wrong when your writing it is all – i am sure it does when i do!

  352. LuvDup Loner says:

    Suga3;

    Hey, I said it yesterday mate… I always hope/expect all our young players will make it…. Truth is, I thought Mannone was pants pre-season, but he surprised me and apart from a couple of high profile mistakes that lead to goals, he played really well and obviously those in the know (ie, NOT you, me, Pedro, et al!) they think he is worth hanging onto…

  353. Gunners The Stunners says:

    BREAKING NEWS!!!

    1135: ANDY MURRAY INTO AUSTRALIAN OPEN SEMI-FINALS AFTER RAFAEL NADAL RETIRES BECAUSE OF INJURY!!!

  354. KM says:

    if we outbid ManU its going to be so embarrasing for Fergie & Co.

  355. Ali Saljuk says:

    I’d be happy with Gary Cahill from Bolton if we miss out on Smalling. This opens up two debates though..

    A) Man United’s move might mean curtains for Vidic and or Ferdinand.

    B) AW will probably react as well because i think Gallas will sign a new deal , senderos already gone and Silvestre / Campbell both having futures up in the air. Djourou having uncertain future with his long term injury.

  356. LuvDup Loner says:

    Suga3;

    You think I am on YOUR back??

  357. E12 GUNNER says:

    Pedro apology accepted :)

  358. Geoff says:

    I fucking hate Andy Murray, he’s a cunt.

  359. Franchise says:

    I thought it was a bit harsh too re Pedro on Mannone.

    a lot of us show our our lack of spending frustrations in various ways. Maybe the mannone swipe was Pedro just exhibiting a bit of sitonwalletitis 8)

    ill take my yellow

  360. yeah sad that nadal got an injury…

    he is back from a long injury layoff,so prob he will take some time to settle down injury wise..

    all the best to murray, Dont want federer to add another one to his ‘lucky’ trophy cabinet..

  361. Geoff says:

    Mannone will never make it ass our keeper, he has two in front of him and giving him another long term contract is taking the piss.

  362. Arse&Nose says:

    Yes ,Smalling has only played 1 premier league game. However in that game he bossed Drogba-no mean task.

    He has been a constant fixture in Fulhams UEFA cup team and won many man of the match awards.

    He was also the man of the match for Fulham vs Swindon in the FA cup.

  363. B.B.K. says:

    lolll that was the only way murray can beat him,by nadal being injured,the cunts got lucky

  364. N1 Gooner says:

    Wenger bid 3.5mil for smallings lol, and you think we are going to beat a cash stapped manure lol, wenger will not part with more than 3.5 for him and thats from “vic ackers” month, you can all carry on dream he aint buying anyone, we are all stuck with wenger the adultrous whore (you hate what he doing but you cant leave)

  365. Geoff says:

    Andy Murray wanted Paraguay to beat England in the world cup, cunt, I hope he never wins a grand slam.

  366. B.B.K. says:

    that o.g from smalling was a big favor to chelsea prehaps he supports them

  367. Arse&Nose says:

    Murray would have beat him anyway, he was 2 sets up.

  368. LuvDup Loner says:

    FRANCHY; :d

  369. KM says:

    suga3

    the Pole is our star in waiting. Wenger knows it too however he needs experience as he’s not even 20! However coming to Vito & Fabianski…..a little bird tells me that he doesn’t believe Fabianksi is the long term answer because he doesnt command his box and is a poor communicator with his defence.

  370. it would have been nadals match if nadal was completey fit.. :D

  371. 78692 says:

    Guys I watched the transfer news before on SSN,according to an Italian reporter on Sky Italia, Flamini wants to leave Milan,but only for a London club.Also Huntelaar is keen on a loan move aswell to cement a world cup place.

  372. LuvDup Loner says:

    Maybe Almunia will be off in the summer Geoff?

  373. KM says:

    Murray never excites me don’t know why. however i love watching nadal & Federer. Watching Federer is like watching Arsenal/Barca – pure joy.

  374. Geoff says:

    The only thing Wenger signs is long term contracts, don’t get your hopes up.

  375. Franchise says:

    Geoff Mannone might never make it but it is normal for all prem clubs to have 4 pro keepers going through from youth to 1st team

    i would rather we chop Almunia than any of the bottom 3 keepers

  376. insidealbania says:

    This will have to be Almunia’s last season as number 1.

  377. Geoff says:

    LuvDup I wished!

  378. Simon says:

    It said 7 million on young guns

  379. Geoff says:

    Franchise that I understand, long term contracts I don’t, all he’s doing is our money, that’s why the players love him, he’s like SantafuckingClaus with our money.

  380. Franchise says:

    i know geoff its getting ridiculous. Geoff it seems the norm is sign everyone on long term even if they have talent or not

  381. Johan says:

    LuvDup, I mean ManG,

    Everyone hopes for our young players to make it, but it’s not a betrayal to grow tired of Wengers nursery mentality.

    Wenger is a genius when it comes to understanding football, but he is stubborn well past the border of stupidity when it comes to handling his own players.

  382. Galviniho says:

    That Smalling matter is not done and dusted, he has been at the London Colney, expect Arsenal to come in again for him. Its another Ramsey episode and United want to get this one over us. Smalling prefers the Arsenal option.

  383. SUGA3 says:

    LUL,

    I tend to give credit and criticism where it’s due ;)

  384. Franchise says:

    what happened to the short term and medium term contracts we used to offer vets and legends? something that was responsible for the likes of pires leaving early

  385. KM says:

    InsideAlbania

    not sure. because it all depends on how alumnia does over the rest of the season. And how well Fabianski does when he is called up. alumnia is only 32 which are the peak years for a GK.

  386. ethangunner says:

    LADS .

    LuvDup Loner Says:
    January 26, 2010 at 11:35

    Suga3;

    Hey, I said it yesterday mate… I always hope/expect all our young players will make it….
    ——————————————-
    the truth is most of our lads WONT make it ..
    not unless they are loaned out and get some regular games ..

    When arsenal (arsene ) hands picks readi-made talent
    its no surprise they were seasoned young players who had 1st team football every week for several years .

    reyes – dudu – TV- Sagna – Nasri … E.T.C ///

    how can these current crop JET etc (jack even ) gonna get a break ?! or get some sustainable football
    under there belts always sitting in the stiffs and getting older and older ?!

    its bottle necked with mediocrity stunting the youthful talent .. it defeats the purpose to develop when you spend such a long time on song – diaby – denilson and let others suffer , for the sake of it (jack – vela -ramsey)

    its flawed and you might as well not get attached to any one player .. most go …

    i was looking forward to stoke initially when we secured him it was almost as bigger deal as theo .
    most talented youngster to come out of Ireland (?) for some time .. and Lupoli .. Italian star of the future ..

    i wished he sold 80 % of project youth and got some decent 1st team players to win matches !

  387. Johan says:

    Galv,

    ‘Smallinh prefers the Arsenal option.’ How do you know that?

  388. KM says:

    thanks for the info Galvinho

  389. Arse&Nose says:

    Galviniho, is that a guess based on what happend with Ramsey?
    or do you have something concrete to base that upon?

  390. Johan says:

    Fran,

    The only exception to that rule Wenger is going to do is for Gallas I think.

  391. GoonerT1m says:

    Morning All..Maybe todays the day!!.. luvdup..you remind me of my 4 yr old!!

  392. Galviniho says:

    Because he is a Kent boy and he would not have to move. He has seen the training facilities and the way Arsenal give chances to youngsters. The issue is Arsenal want to sign him and loan him back to Fulham but Fulham clearly want the cash to sign players before the transfer window. Arsenal’s offer is not up front payment.

  393. Galviniho says:

    FYI on the goalkeeper front, Wenger has been looking at Goalies and expect one to sign in the summer.

  394. B.B.K. says:

    flamini will go to chelsea

  395. Johan says:

    EG,

    Suffer and suffer,

    Ramsey and Eastmond are part of the JET/Wilshere/ETC generation in terms of youth development, I’d say they are coming forth.

    Problem with youth development is that you have to plan and predict the future, so obviously some of our youth won’t cut it.

    Diaby and Song are still young, the only real question for me is crabman. Whose role is honestly difficult to predict in our squad since he can’t hold yet he is defensive.

  396. Arse&Nose says:

    Galvin, him being a Kent boy wont in my opinion have any bearing on the transfer.

    Rio was a london boy, Ramsey was a Cardiff boy, Gary Neville is a Rent Boy.

  397. 78692 says:

    1130 GMT: Manchester United and Manchester City will battle it out to sign Italian international goalkeeper Gianluigi Buffon after the Juventus stopper claimed he was ready to quit the Turin outfit. (Tuttosport)

  398. SUGA3 says:

    Galviniho,

    what a load of bollocks that is – we have enough money, for fuck’s sake, that’s just embarrassing…

  399. Geoff

    i think Wenger WILL NEXT give long term contracts to ‘to be born’ kids of Denilson,Almunia,Song,Mannone,eboue etc etc and all kids of his lovechilds….

  400. Johan says:

    Galv,

    Sounds to be then that Man U are closer to a deal then. The part with Arsenal being closer, him not having to move etc feels like a guess from you part.

  401. charybdis1966 says:

    ..and a sock sucker A & N

  402. Galviniho says:

    Good one about Neville. Arsenal take these things seriously if they want to up their offer they will put verything into persuading Smalling. It is always easier to not upsticks though.

    Wenger cut short his holiday for Ramsey and also for walcott.

  403. Arse&Nose says:

    lol @ chary

  404. rob green says:

    I can’t believe it!! It looks like united are going to sign Smalling instead of us!! another one that Wenger has let go!! I suppose it would get in the way of Djourou development!!

  405. Gunners The Stunners says:

    A&N,

    Gary Neville is a Retard boy who gave Tevez finger gesture in front of live cameras knowing that millions are watching at home… :D

  406. Galviniho says:

    Did you know United showed Ramsey around old trafford and let Neville do the honours – what a farce.

  407. charybdis1966 says:

    Does anyone know if the turtle-faced drug cheat is going to get suspended for the forearm smash on Fagan(Hull) on Saturday?

  408. Gunners The Stunners says:

    Milan striker Klaas-Jan Huntelaar’s future is still up in the air as Arsenal join a host of Premier League clubs in the race to land him.

    According to Tuttomercatoweb.com, the Gunners are concocting a plan to land the Dutchman as a replacement for long-term injury absentee Robin van Persie.

    Arsene Wenger is reportedly peering into the transfer window for reinforcements up front, but he has been discouraged by the player’s high wage demands. However, they are eager to sidestep the money dilemma in an attempt to formulate a move for Huntelaar.

    The former Ajax and Real Madrid man has been peripheral to plans at the San Siro and he has been linked with a loan exit until the end of term.

    The Premier League interest doesn’t cease there though. Everton, Tottenham Hotspur, West Ham and Birmingham City are also said to be in the bidders’ lounge.

  409. Arse&Nose says:

    turtle-faced drug cheat hahahahahaha

    funny how no-one mentions his dodgey drug cheat past?If he wasnt English or a Man Utd player we’d be hearing about it all the time.

  410. Geoff says:

    What high wage demands, he earns £5k more than Theo???

  411. Geoff says:

    Probably what Mannone gets now!

  412. KM says:

    Galvinho

    couldnt Wenger have bought Hazard rather than Walcott ;)

  413. Big Dave says:

    We wont bid higher then £7 mill for him, wenger wont do a bidding war

    wankers man u

  414. Johan says:

    Gunners the Stunners

    That comment, whereever it comes from seem a little vague, feeling like there’s about as much truth to it as the Dzeko rumours.

  415. timao says:

    F*ck his high wage demands – sign the bastard now! Huntelaar is a diamond!

  416. Galviniho says:

    I’d love to get Boriello, he is awesome.

  417. choy says:

    fulham have just had a bid accepted..

    cardiff did the same for ramsey

  418. Johan says:

    timoa

    How do you know?

    He’s been shite as far as anyone can tell both in Real Madrid and Milan.

  419. Gunners The Stunners says:

    Johan,

    I know mate. The thing is that if we’re to sign anyone before the window shuts next Monday, it will be a loan signing. We’re only one striker short and a striker on loan might give us the push and a few extra goals we need to win the title.

  420. doesnt everyone know that huntelaar cannot move twice in a same season

    huntelaar wont be getting transferred right

  421. LuvDup Loner says:

    Johan;

    I know you have a view on Wenger and we have been there before! And I also know that not all our young playters will make it and we will be lucky if 2 do come thru each season (although I think our current crop of Coquelin, JET, lansbury, Bartley Eastmond) could all make it here…

    Ethan;

    Yeah, they need to go out on loan before spaces can be made open to them, I think Wilshire will be off soon enough on loan..

    GunnerTimothy;

    Your 4 year old sounds like a right twat!

  422. Gunners The Stunners says:

    Sabeel,

    You’re right mate but he can go and play for another club on loan.

  423. choy says:

    I doubt wenger will go for just a pure goalscorer.

  424. Arse&Nose says:

    I dont liek getting people on loan.

    The motivation for them isn’t there, they can easily slip back into their comfort zone if things get tough, also they play like they worry about injury too much.

  425. insidealbania says:

    Ethan

    I dont think this project youth will continue in this way for too long. It will be a conveyor belt of young talent that will pay for itself and we may benefit by striking Gold once every season.

    The problem for us is that last few seasons have been the beginning of project youth and AW promoted a whole lot at the same time after disbanding the invincibles.

    but if you look at our squad now (incl injuries) you have Cesc, RVB, Gallas, TV, Almunia, Clichy, Sagna, Eboue, Arsh, Rosicky, Edu who are not in the youth bracket. Their quality is a different isuue, but age wise they are not kids. I think this trend will continue and most of the youth will be shipped out, with only the few exceptional talents who will get their brake in the first team.
    Players like Diaby, Denilson, Song and others othat caliber will remain as squad players ala Eboue, unless a good bid is made for them.

    I am not trying to defend this strategy that our club is using because it has its flaws (e.g. Senderos cant be sold for shit). But I could see why the club took this route, it would have been nice to win a cup or two on the way.

  426. A says:

    Sabeel he moved before the start of the season, it’s only if a player has played for two teams already in a season, he can’t play for a third unless given special dispensation.

    I’d rather we didn’t sign Huntelaar, much prefer Saha or Cole, but Huntelaar would be better than noone I guess. Only on loan though, I wouldn’t want us to splash cash on him as would be a big big risk, and mean we then wouldn’t have as much to spend in the summer.

  427. rob green says:

    Wenger wont sign anyone!! he is stubborn and blind and thinks we have enough to take over the world in 10 years time!!

  428. E12 GUNNER says:

    this is an example of man utd nicking players we are close to signing, every time. They did it with van nistelrooy, ronaldo, now smalling, their scouting network is awful, and have always been kept informed of the players Arsene has an eye on, and subsequently makes a move trusting wenger’s judgement.

    No way would united have made a move for Smalling if our approach wasn’t leaked last week. In fact I doubt Ferguson had ever seen him play, probably asked for DVD’s as soon as our interest was confirmed. Unbeleivable. Think we’ll come back with a bigger offer, personally I doubt it, a fee of up to £7m is just about right, but if United offered £8m, it might be worth stumping up that little bit more for a future England international centre half.

  429. KM says:

    Galvinho

    yes that dude is a beast

  430. GoonerT1m says:

    3 rd choice 2nd choice blah blah blah…sort it out Arsene!!

  431. LuvDup Loner says:

    If we have bid £7m for Smalling and that aint enough, should we really go any higher than that, considering his lack of experience? Coz basically we would be buying potential! And lord knows we got a shit load of that already!

  432. dennisdamenace says:

    Anyone else heard the rumour about Denilson joining Motherwell??

  433. Gunners The Stunners says:

    Inside,

    Our policy nearly paid dividends 2 seasons ago in the league but no point going into that. I believe we can do that this season and win the league.

  434. dennisdamenace says:

    More like fucking Mothercare!

  435. walter says:

    I see some people blaming Wenger for not signing Smalling.

    How many games did he play in the PL ? 4 (four) games so far and then to bid 7 or 8m ??? This is a ridicoulous amount of money for a player with no expierence whatever.

    If Wenger buys him (another young kid) will you blame him when that (expensive) kid makes a mistake that cost us points ?

    Who will he replace ? 7 or 8m for a player to sit on the bench ? That is a lot of money I think.

  436. finestcuts says:

    Hey Sabeel, we can get Huntelaar, he has only played for Milan this season.

    Disappointed about Manyoo signing Smalling, that would have been a superb investment. Now we’ve got Sol Campbell who might get another 3 games with us if he’s lucky…..now the Campbell deal doesn’t look too hot, his wages could have been spent on Smalling’s transfer fee.

    Buying at 7 mill off Fulham was a top deal, We could have sold on for at least that + wages if it didn’t work out.

  437. Pedro says:

    Gunners, if you call a collapse in February nearly paying dividends… then you can have that one.

    However, I’d say that is about as nearly as going out in the FA Cup at the quarter finals.

  438. Gunners The Stunners says:

    DDM,

    Yaah, SSN understands that Denilson is off to Motherwell but Accrington Stanley might nick it in the last minute… :D

  439. thanks stunners,A,finests for clearing it up

    i agree we dont need huntelaar,when we can get cole or saha as backups…

  440. A says:

    finest if it didn’t work out then there’s no way we’d get £7 mil for him! He’d end up a Jeffers, being sold at a big loss!

  441. finest

    yes smalling gone,am disappointed too…but still i am more worried for reinforcements for this season

    dont think we will get anyone except another kid or 2

  442. Arse&Nose says:

    Walter, Smalling is worth it. He has had rave reviews in every game he has played.

  443. dennisdamenace says:

    GTS – Do you think the step up to the Jocko league might be a step too much for the poor little mite?

  444. finestcuts says:

    I’m not entirely sure Wenger wanted us to be in the FA cup. Remember his comments when Manyoo went out?

    Campbell = not match fit, played 90mins
    Silvestre = not match fit
    Coquelin = debutant and out of position
    Vela = Inexperienced
    Walcott = straight back from injury, not match fit
    J.E.T= Not match fit + debutant

    Versus a full strength Premier league team with history of beating us at home. Go figure.

  445. insidealbania says:

    GTS, I think the CL semi was a better achievement, the squad of 2 seasons ago was not good enough to win the league. However I do think we have had a squad capable of winning the FA/carling cup but we just haven’t bothered to go for it. Winning the league this season (which is possible) can make amends.

  446. gazzap says:

    £7m for Smalling was a fair bid. Maybe go to £8.5m but we cant go further than that. he might flop. Man U can waste £9m if they want.
    there will be another deal around the corner, there always is.

    As for Huntelaar. I would take him on loan. Its a gamble but thats why I would only take him on loan and see how he gets on. If he isn’t any good we can chuck him back in the summer. its not like we are gonna buy someone else if we dont get him. Personally I dont think he is as good as Eduardo – and Eddie is having a hard enough time lately.

  447. BigRaddy says:

    Flam could well go to the Chavs as a replacement for Essien. Could he come back to us? Would AW go for a player who really screwed him over? Had Flamini been clear in his intentions, AW would have definitely played Diarra and our DM problems would have been solved.

    I hope Flamini goes to the WHU or Brentford.

    Smalling ? …… yet another player no-one had heard of 2 months ago. €7m is a tidy sum, and if he does go to MU, well, we can’t sign everyone when we have a policy of signing players t long-term contracts. Which is another reason to thank Flamini ….. grrrrr

  448. finestcuts says:

    A tbh I think the evidence is against it, we know a good player when we see one, so do Manyoo, so does Roy Hodgson, so do England selectors, right build for hisposition, there isn’t a young centre back who’s closer to a sure thing than Smalling. It’s like a student entering University with four grade A “A” levels, sure he could get pissed/high for three years and throw it all away, but most probably not.

  449. gazzap says:

    finestcuts, he may have wanted to beat Stoke, but there is no question he would have used a carling cup team at Man City in the next round. Good experience for the kids but nothing more.

  450. Johan says:

    walter

    I have to agree with you, specially now that Gallas is probably going to renew his contract.

    ManG

    I just think that Wenger should be more harsh with the consequences for certain of our now not-so-young players.

    I think Denilson pisses people off because he is the perfect example of Wengerism. A weak yet intelligent player with a rather vague role in the midfield that was a young project that hasn’t landed yet, and he’s now by our own standard not a youth player.

    Even if he is a ‘late bloomer’ I don’t think we can wait an eternity for him to turn good. There’s other players, younger players, that I already rate higher.

  451. gazzap says:

    I very much doubt flam would be allowed to come back to us. most likely is Chelsea I would say.

  452. Gunners The Stunners says:

    Pedro,

    If you’ve read my comment I mentioned that there is no point going into that.

    I know we collapsed cos when you’re on top, even a few draws seem like collapse. Despite that collapse (if you call it that) we would still have won the league had we won at OT against ManU. Just that one win could have won us the title at the end. We would have been champions with (83+3) 86 points above Chelsea 85 & ManU (87-3) 84. We didn’t win it tho so you’re open to express whatever you make of it…

    Let’s move on from here…

  453. zak says:

    the youth policy is a total crock of shit, if you believe wenger then Song would kill eastmond, clichy would kill gibbs, denilson would kill wilshire, etc etc. Then those kids would be killing the younger kids, where does it end.

  454. B says:

    Whatever happened to retrospective punishment, Rio’s clear elbowing of Fagan in the Hull game is blatantly being ignored by the FA

    Manc-loving w#nkers!!

  455. edatom says:

    Arse&Nose

    We are in a world cup year, and if that is not motivation enough for Huntelaar..then nothing will be…..besides, it will become plain to everyone that he just cannot cut the mustard…as his exploits at Real and AC will be seen as unsuccessful.

  456. Pedro says:

    Stunners, I did read what you said. You were asking no one to challenge a statement I didn’t agree with.

    Could’ve, should’ve, would’ve springs to mind when reading through your justification.

    The only reason we finished so close in the end was because Chelsea and ManU were resting players.

    A collapse is going from 5 points clear, to losing the title… so I would call it a collapse… maybe even a choke.

  457. Gunners The Stunners says:

    Inside,

    Yep, getting into CL semi final last year was a big achievment, I agree with that. Also, beating Milan at San Siro 2 seasons ago was a night a Gooner can’t easily forget.

    This season, we’re mentally prepared to challenge and win the league. We need to take every game as it comes.

  458. LuvDup Loner says:

    I havet seen Ferdinand’s elbow in that Hull twat…

    Johan;

    I dont think Denilson is a starter for us when a few come back from injury though… I would keep him at the club though…

  459. dennisdamenace says:

    According to BBC Sport, Man City have admitted that they are in talks with Santos and Sao Paulo about a loan deal for Robinho….

  460. Geoff says:

    You see this is where I challenge Wenger, his knowledge on players and his scouting network.

    If he was so good, how comes we didn’t sign Smalling when he was a 19 year old at Maidstone, when Hodgson did.

  461. CHIPPY says:

    ManGoon,
    Thats cos Sky wont show any incidents unless theres a chance it will get one of our players banned the Cunts :-)

    Afternoon all,
    Anyone got the low down on what our great leader had to say in his press conferance or shall i guess,
    we are not close to signing anyone, Song coming back will be like a new player if we do sign someone you will be the first to know bla bla bla :-)

    Does make me laugh when we miss out on a young player, Wengers a cock for not signing them and when he does sign a young player hes a cock for that to lol

  462. B says:

    LuvDup

    You can see it here:

    http://www.101greatgoals.com/video-cheeky-slapper-rio-ferdinand-manchester-united-slugged-craig-fagan-hull/46033/

    Why are these things so easily forgotten by the FA, when Gallas’ ‘assault’ was in the news for a week?

  463. B says:

    Luvdup,

    You can watch it here:

    http://www.101greatgoals.com/video-cheeky-slapper-rio-ferdinand-manchester-united-slugged-craig-fagan-hull/46033/

    Why are these things so easily forgotten, when Gallas’ ‘assault’ was in the news for a week?

  464. Gunners The Stunners says:

    Pedro,

    I didn’t ask no one to challenge my statement. I was only commenting on Inside’s post.

    Yep, you saw could’ve, would’ve & should’ve in my justification but I also said we didn’t win it. Read it again.

    I express my opinion the way I see it and no one has to agree with me and everyone is free to disagree with me if they want to…

  465. gambon says:

    So UTD are gonna get Smalling!

    How annoying, anyone think we will match their bid??!

    Bet we would if he was frnch &/or african!

  466. LuvDup Loner says:

    If we are going to re-hash events from the past that I would rather forget…

    I would not call it choking or a collapse, I would put it down to several things and ceretain circumstances;

    The game at Brum sticks in my mind, it went royally tits up there didnt it? And I dont think what happened there can be underplayed, a few players did not get over that game, the Eduardo assault, Gallas histrionics, the fact we dropped 2 points in such a way etc… Plus Ade stopped scoring and RvP was injured yet again…

    Like I said, not a collapse or a choke, more like a catalogue of shitty happenings!

    Nasri and Bendy back for Villa game, Song back for United and…. We are still interested in Smalling…

  467. Big Dave says:

    English players allways cost more.

    Months back we never heard of him.

  468. rob green says:

    Look I don’t care if we if don’t win anything!! As long as the club is making a profit and the players are getting better and gaining more experience that’s all that matters!! We don’t need to buy anyone as Song, Eboue and Bendtner will be like new signings!! The team has the Qualiti the belief and the hunger!!

  469. LuvDup Loner says:

    gambon;

    Is that your impression of Jaguar there!!?? :wink:

  470. CHIPPY says:

    Nasri and Bendy back thats good news we will need his height and hold up play at villa as theyve got a pretty strong pair of centrebacks

  471. Big Dave says:

    Gambon.

    Doubt we will not get into a bidding war

    £7mill seems to be the right price, they no vidic is off and will fetch about £12mill for him

  472. gambon says:

    LuvDup

    No, cos i didnt use the word hypocrite :-)

  473. Gunners The Stunners says:

    Geoff,

    If you can afford to go on holidays across Europe and ROW on regular basis, you wouldn’t be bothered in taking a break in Leeds or Coventry. Get my point?

    Wenger’s scouting network is scattered around Europe and ROW and they scout a large number of players from different clubs in Europe and so on.

    On the other hand, Fulham are only limited to scout nationwide. They don’t have enough resources to send their scouting network to go & watch European clubs and their players.

  474. LuvDup Loner says:

    Chippy;

    We are still in for Smalling according to Wenger’s press conflab…

    And the other stuff I mentioned above; Bendy, Nasri back for tomorrow and Song back for United…

  475. Simon says:

    “Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger insists that he is still interested in Chris Smalling, despite Sky Sports News’ understanding that Manchester United have had a bid accepted for the Fulham defender.” SKY SPORTS….

  476. gambon says:

    Smalling & Bartley could be the half caste Bould & Adams for the next decade!

  477. LuvDup Loner says:

    Gambon;

    Haha! True dat!

    Laters all, seeya again, when we have signed Smalling, Huntelaar, Matuidi…

  478. CHIPPY says:

    Cheers Fella,
    To be honest not really fussed either way on smalling as he could grow into the bees knees or another senderos,Much rather we were in for a proven target man and a centre mid but hey ho !!

    Really good News on the injured and africans tho as we are going to need all fit and healthy over the next month !!

  479. A says:

    Geoff are you saying that Wenger should know of EVERY talented player in the entire world?! Smalling is a unique situation, no top club will have scouts anywhere near Maidstone’s level.

  480. goonermichael says:

    Typical of Murray scottish cunt

  481. A says:

    what’s typical of murray gm, being awesome??

  482. A says:

    luvd up did he say anything about diaby??

  483. PETE says:

    DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON DENILSON

  484. goonermichael says:

    Being a cunt

  485. SUGA3 says:

    A,

    that’s bollocks mate – what about Freeman then?

  486. goonermichael says:

    Smalling’s going to the Mancs. Fancy me believing we’d sign someone.

  487. A says:

    What about Freeman SUGA? Gillingham are hardly Maidstone! League 1/League 2 compared to the Isthmian League!

  488. A says:

    That confirmed gm?

  489. goonermichael says:

    No not confirmed just on the sky website.

  490. A says:

    Oh ok gm, thought you meant there was something new. Be good if we have the same outcome as with Ramsey, nice kick in the teeth for Utd as well as a boost for us!

  491. Dutchman says:

    We must win against Aston villa, because when we lose and lose against man u, then we are totally out of the title race, and has wenger failed again. When we lose those coming two games , then we are five points behind man u and 9 behind chelsea!!!

  492. A says:

    2 losses this week would be terrible Dutchman, I’d be surprised if we did lose both though, I’m probably more confident about Utd on Sunday than Villa tomorrow

  493. Dutchman says:

    When we failed the coming weeks, it is wengers fault again, then it will again show that wenger had to buy but didn’t buy, because of his stubborness!

  494. GoonerGod says:

    I am starting to get annoyed now. We clearly have weaknesses in out team, and is Wenger just doing it on purpose?
    Last January he took so long, Arshavin signed about 3 days after the transfer window was due to end.
    Why does he do it? Surely buying a couple of players at the beginning of January and having them available for the 4 upcoming games would make sense.
    I pay my season ticket fees like everyone else, and the reason for that is to win trophies. Not to settle for players like Walcott, Denilson, Vela etc.
    I want silverware, but we’re so far off. We’ve sacrificed the FA Cup for the past few seasons to concentrate on bigger/better, a load of good that has done us. If he had bought the couple of players we so desperately need, we wouldn’t need to sacrifice competitions.

  495. Dutchman says:

    A what do you think the line-up will be??

    I think:

    almunia
    sagna-gallas-vermealen-clichy
    nasr-denilson-fabregas
    rosicky-eduardo-arshavin
    Agree??

  496. SUGA3 says:

    A,

    it’s not like Freeman played for their first team a lot, was it?

    I am going into this week with more hope than confidence – I fully expect our ‘DM’ to be ass raped by Villa tomorrow…

    we will probably fare much better against ManYoo at home with Song back, as long as he doesn’t ‘do a Kolo’

  497. Goonerman says:

    Dutchman – have you been negative all your life or is it just about Arsenal

  498. Dutchman says:

    Agree goonergod, wenger is too stubborn. He said that he won’t buy any big names because of the FA Cup 2005(he said it today ).

  499. goonermichael says:

    Is Diaby back for Villa? Isn’t Bendy back soon

  500. Ali Saljuk says:

    According to AW’s ongoing press conference :

    Nasri, Bendtner, Ramsey, Sagna all available for
    tomorrow. Song and Eboue for Sunday.

    On the subject of Smallling AW says ” ‘It looks as if ManUnited have offered more money, doesn’t mean it’s the end ”

    Also no interest in bringing any striker.

  501. El Tel says:

    SSN = MUTV Skysports.com = MU.com

  502. A says:

    Dutchman I’d go for the same team as you, apart from perhaps Ramsey rather than Nasri, depending on how fit Nasri is. Maybe even throw Bendtner in there rather than Eduardo, again depending on level of fitnss.

    Not a massive number SUGA, but made his debut at 15, pretty high profile as he was the youngest player to ever play in the FA Cup, big deal was made of it etc.

    Smalling at 18 had made 11 first team appearances in the Isthmian League!

    Massive difference between the two….

  503. Nick says:

    Afternoon Grovers :)
    Why is it i miss all the kick offs, have a couple days away and it all goes Pete tong with AKB’S all over the shop. just my luck ;)

  504. gazzap says:

    If wenger really beleives that good players in front of youngsters, kills the kids, then why does he buy say an 18 year old when we already have a 19 year old and 20 year old in those positions.

    Eg Pedro Bothelo – why buy him when we have Gibbs, Traore and Clichy,
    Coquelin, why buy him when we have Eastmond.

    I am not supporting the idea that buying players kills other players. But Wenger should not worry about killing players – he should be concerned with putting the strongest team on the pitch given our resources and attempting to win trophies. If the players genuinely are good enough, they will come through – no one gets killed.

  505. A says:

    Ali – no Diaby news??

  506. Geoff says:

    To answer a few of you, I’m not quite sure who we scouted that is so talented.

    Vermaelen, top signing but hardly a kid, same with Gallas and Arshavin.

    Theo and Cesc the whole world knew about so that leaves what, Song, well he took 4 years to show any promise, Vela we’ve had for 4 and he’s ordinary, Denilson is shit, Djourou and Diaby are crocks, Senderos after 6 years has gone, so who have we scouted then???

    Messi, Pato, Rooney etc Oh sorry we must have missed them.

    We have a network of 300 hundred, what the fuck do they do then???

  507. A says:

    gazzap Eastmond was a right back when we signed Coquelin, and Coquelin is far more talented imo. We signed Pedro Botelho three years ago, when few people thought Gibbs was going to make it, and he wasn’t a left back.

  508. Nick says:

    Geoff that 300, they give the persians a good hiding

  509. El Tel says:

    Even if he were to sign a player before thee next four games it is far to late for them to adapt.

    It would be good to get a couple in for the easier games coming up after the tough games are done.

    Villa. Draw
    Mancs. Win
    Pool. Win
    Chavs.Draw

    8 points or

    Villa. Win
    Mancs.Win
    Pool. Win
    Chavs. Lose

    9 points

    What would be better?

  510. A says:

    Bendtner, Vela, Freeman, Bartley, Merida, Coquelin, Traore, Clichy, Kolo, Eboue?

  511. gazzap says:

    “Nicklas Bendtner (groin) and Samir Nasri (hamstring) are back in training but will not yet feature”

    So No Nik B!

    Team will prob be:
    Almunia
    Sagna Gallas Verm clichy
    Cesc Den Ramsey
    Rosicky Eduardo Arshavin

    I would use Eastmond but wenger wont.
    Doubt Vela or Theo will get a start. Vela needs a confidence boost and he is better than he was able to show at Stoke.

  512. Geoff says:

    Nick not our 300 mate, they would have missed them!

  513. Dutchman says:

    Goonerman, i know arsenal, we are favourit against Villa but always we lose that matches and are out of the title race, it goes such as that for a few years now and every year wenger has failed to buy.

  514. Nick says:

    Geoff :) good call

  515. El Tel says:

    Fuck the Smalling shit get his partner in instead. Could be showing the piss head a smokescreen then getting the real target.

  516. Nick says:

    tel would rather the nine points and get beat by chavs then 8 and give villa a result

  517. A says:

    That sucks a bit gazzap! Where’s all this info from? Is the press conference being shown somewhere, swear it’s not on ATVO yet??

  518. gazzap says:

    A, If wenger beleived what he says, he would not sign young keeper after young keeper. You can go right through the youth team and see players competing for the same position, which is absolutely the right thing to do and should be happening at first team level.
    I dont think he really does beleive what he says. He makes excuses to the fans to make it look like he is doing the right thing.

  519. Simon says:

    Geoff, are you sure the whole world new about Cesc?

  520. CHIPPY says:

    So another game when our dane was meant to be back and now hes not what a complete fuck up our injury assesments are !!! Start of Nov back in 3 weeks, Returns end of jan if it wasnt so serious it would be funny !!

  521. El Tel says:

    Nick

    I would take the 8 points and stay unbeaten. It would also be good if we don’t get beat by the way over rated Chavs IMO.

  522. A says:

    gazzap with kids that young it’s different. When he talked about killing players, he referred to Diaby, Denilson, Song, Bendtner, Vela. Players who are already in the first team reckoning. With kids that age you’ve got no idea who will make it to the first team, so it isn’t the same.

    The youth squads are all much smaller than the first team squad, as you’d expect…. When U18s are out injured, U16s come in….

  523. Johan says:

    El Tel

    I’d rather see that we draw against the Chavs for obvious reasons, even though it would be lesser pts.

    gazzap,

    So no Nikki B, that’s a fact from the press conference?

  524. A says:

    Ah ok, cheers Gazzap.

  525. Johan says:

    Oh alright, nvm me then. :)

  526. choy says:

    Who’s the real target el tel?

  527. A says:

    Johan apparently Wenger said Nasri and Bendy are back in the press conference, Teamtalk says otherwise, but that was from before the press conference I’d imagine.

  528. gazzap says:

    Yes but its precisely him saying I dont want to kill Diaby/Denilson etc that is not helping us.
    Why would be care more about killing Denilson that Arsenal winning a trophy? His first responsibility is to Arsenal not an individual player.
    the only reason we dont win things is because overall our players are not quite good enough. we have the money there is no question of that.

  529. A says:

    El Tel I’m with you there, 8 points > 9 with a loss against Chelsea. Though 9 beating Chelsea would be better imo!

  530. choy says:

    Wow.. players like nasri and ramsey ahead of schedule!

    Amazing!

  531. El Tel says:

    The Hunter has always been a good idea for me. He wasn’t so bad at Real he just had the Kings son to dismantle.

    TV would be able to give Wenger a decent reference regarding The Hunter and imo he would like the Prem style of play.

    Can see it now, a shit cross from Sagna but the Hunter makes a scissor kick into the top corner at the home of the Chavs.

    If players like the Disco singer at Stoke can score 2 goals against us just imagine what the Hunter would bring.

  532. Johan says:

    A

    Oh alright, it’s irritating that that teamtalk link doesn’t have a date/time on it. But you’re probably right.

  533. A says:

    He doesn’t gazzap. That’s why he tried to sign a DM! The killing Denilson/Song thing was said in a “we didn’t get anyone but it isn’t a big deal because if we had it would’ve killed …..” It was an attempt at making the best of a bad situation imo.

  534. El Tel says:

    Got to go guys c ya all later.

  535. rob green says:

    Good point Geoff!! What hot prospect have the scouts found. Fabregas maybe but after that who?

  536. Arsenal Tom says:

    so wenger says we’re not after huntelaar or anyone!! not getting a CF will fuck our season big time!

    i doubt wenger ever even looked for one

  537. A says:

    I’d disagree about individually too – it’s as a team we aren’t quite there imo. We don’t quite have the maturity as a unit, bottle it in the big games etc. It’s not one player, but as a collective that we need to develop on the whole, to win games like at Old Trafford and City

  538. A says:

    Yeah Johan, if it was from the press conference I’m sure they’d have quotes though.

    AT I’m fine with not getting Huntelaar, still expect a forward to come in though! Come on Saha….

  539. choy says:

    rob.. messi was playing alongside fab at that time, but we couldn’t get the papers or something like that!

    Imagine!

  540. A says:

    Arsène Wenger kicked off his pre-match press conference with some good news on Tuesday: Arsenal’s injury list is shrinking at last.

    The manager had nine players sidelined last week but Aaron Ramsey returned for the FA Cup tie at Stoke and three others are back in contention ahead of Wednesday’s trip to Aston Villa.

    “The list of injuries is going down a bit,” said Wenger.

    “We have Samir Nasri and Nicklas Bendtner back in full training, so that is quite good news for us. Abou Diaby is injured, but Bacary Sagna is back.”

    Nasri was ruled out for three weeks with a hamstring problem eight days ago and has recovered faster than expected. Bendtner has had to wait rather longer – he limped out of the North London derby on October 31 with a thigh injury. And Sagna is fit after protecting his shoulder problem at the weekend.

    That just leaves five players on the sidelines: long-term absentees Robin Van Persie, Kieran Gibbs and Johan Djourou plus Fran Merida and Diaby.

    Meanwhile, Wenger has confirmed that Thomas Vermaelen and William Gallas will return to the starting line-up at Villa Park on Wednesday.

    “Yes [it will be the normal defensive pairing],” he said.

  541. Geoff says:

    Simon yes, he was captain of Spain’s under 16 world cup team and ended up as the competitions top scorer. We signed him and the Mancs signed Pique.

  542. choy says:

    I don’t think we’ll be getting a striker now.

    Options for the front three

    Arshavin, Eddie, Vela, Theo, Nikki B, Nasri, Rosicky

  543. A says:

    We got Cesc a year before Utd got Pique

  544. insidealbania says:

    A – I think you are right on that, we should never take what AW says at face value. He is to football what Alister Campbell was to Politics.

  545. Ali Saljuk says:

    Nasri and Bendtner back in training but might be short for the Villa game , dont know about Diaby’s current situation. Song and Eboue back for Sunday.

  546. DB10 says:

    Arsenal ready to do battle with Manchester United over Chris Smalling

    The Arsenal manager said: “It just looks like Manchester United offered more money than us, but as long as the player has not signed anywhere it is not the end of it.

    “Let’s see what happens there.

  547. A says:

    I reckon Wenger could be waiting to see what happens with Saha, Cole, or Remy

  548. Simon says:

    Must be just me then…

  549. Geoff says:

    What’s your point A?

  550. SUGA3 says:

    Geoff,

    what the scouts are doing? well, you know my opinion on that and I will not repeat my ‘moronic’ comment :lol:

  551. didee says:

    Grovers, on our scouting network i think they do a pretty good job, not spotting talents like messi in the womb of their mom is not a crime cos lets face it you can spot ‘em all…what sucks though is missing out on a talent like messi when he was offer alongside cesc or letting Given and Cana go to shit teams cos of a few quids

  552. gazzap says:

    A – see A I think its as a team that we are stronger. I think our team is stronger than the sum of our parts because they all work in unison doing pass and move. take a player out and put him in virtually any other team and he is not as good. perhaps not true of Arshavin or Cesc, but the rest of them I would say so.
    I think its individual weaknesses, and isolated errors that often cost us games having otherwise played quite well.

  553. Geoff says:

    I’m sure it wasn’t Suga, post it again!

    Didee I agree. That’s my whole point.

  554. CHIPPY says:

    Not a dig didee but surely you cannot put cana in the same bracket as messi and cesc :-)

  555. A says:

    That Pique wasn’t bought from the world cup performance, neither was Cesc, out scouts knew about him because they were doing their job, just as Utd’s scouts were impressed by Pique.

    Doesn’t make them household names….

  556. A says:

    I agree gazzap, but those errors come from different players, and although goals often come from individual errors, in the big games, there seems to be little confidence in the team as a whole, and an immaturity which leaves us exposed, lack of composure too.

    I disagree about our players individually too, imo stick any of our team into the likes of Chelsea or Utd when they’re playing well, and they’d be absolutely superb, especially the defensive players! Almunia would even be praised no end if he was behind Utd’s defence of last season!

  557. Geoff says:

    Cesc was known because he was a massive talent, we got him because Barca couldn’t make him sign a pro contract as he was too young, in England the rules are different.

    Fuck me even I had heard of Cesc Fabregas.

    We did the same with Merida, we locked him away at a secret destination and took his mobile away.

    Signing Cesc was no different to signing The, except Theo cost a lot more. And we didn’t discover Theo, Southampton did that.

  558. Franchise says:

    well i personally watched cesc play in u17 world championships that was before we signed him

    francesc fabregas he was called :D

  559. Arsenal Tom says:

    A… dont get your hopes up mate

    Wenger, however, rejected suggestions he was set to move for Dutch forward Klaas-Jan Huntelaar.
    He said: “We are not after any striker at the moment.”

    bendtner the new signing it is then

  560. Geoff says:

    Franchise, he still is!

  561. ps says:

    Whenever I watch Arsenal play this thought always flashes in my mind..sell almunia,fabianski,mannone as a packaged deal keep sczezny as back up get shay given or brad friedel .Goalkeepers like them don’t get injured anyways.

  562. A says:

    “at the moment” AT, makes me more optimistic that we’re therefore waiting for Everton to sign Huntelaar, making Saha available, West Ham to sign McCarthy and one other, making Cole available, or Remy to decide that he absolutely wants to leave!

  563. A says:

    Do Cesc and Merida have the same first name then, and just abbreviated differently, or is Fran’s first name not Francesc?

  564. charybdis1966 says:

    So Turtle face has been charged by the FA with violent conduct. As the hearing is o Thursday, with any luck he’ll be banned for the match with us on sunday and we have a 2nd choice centre back pairing for our new sgning /bendtner to rip a new arsehole.

  565. Franchise says:

    we are signing no one

  566. didee says:

    Chippy,

    I wasnt actually but we missed out on a gr8 player cos of a few quids a thing he shares with loads of players we missed out on…by the way feel free to take a dig its part of the fun

  567. gambon says:

    Francesc Fabregas Soler i believe!

  568. Geoff says:

    His name is Frank, with a silent K.

  569. Franchise says:

    Francesc and Francisco

  570. Arsenal Tom says:

    A… well your definitely an optimist ill give you that!

    the everton thing makes a bit of sense but i think with gold and sullivan in at west ham they wont be selling anyone

  571. gambon says:

    Francisco i thought

  572. Arse&Nose says:

    chary, they will appeal which means he will miss the game after playing us….thats just cheating.

  573. gambon says:

    Franck

    Like the guy from the wedding film.

  574. A says:

    What didee?? You reckon we missed out on Cana because of money?! We “missed out” on him because we never wanted him, on account of his not being anywhere near good enough to play for us!

    I prefer Geoff’s understanding of the names, Frank Merida.

  575. Arsenal Tom says:

    chary, thats great news! dirty manc cheat! is vidic fit?

  576. rob green says:

    I don’t see how people can say the scouts do a good job. Give me examples?

  577. Franchise says:

    i cant believe that im waiting earnestly for the return of bendtner

  578. Franchise says:

    to be honest most of the young players we have signed in the last 6 years are not cutting it, have not been cutting it or did not cut it at Arsenal

  579. Geoff says:

    Wenger just said this ‘I already forgot Stoke, I did not know we even played at Stoke because I am focused on tomorrow’

    What a twat, that’s what I mean people, I won’t forget Stoke until we are in it again next year.

    That’s disrespect, that’s all the FA Cup means to him, fucking nothing.

    I’m off for a bit, have fun Grovers.

  580. rob green says:

    i’m sure when nasri and Bendtner return will bet some more injuries!!

  581. dennisdamenace says:

    Fronck!

  582. Franchise says:

    my biggest worry is that for the united game they would have their first choice defence back. our midget forwards would struggle against that lot no doubt

  583. dennisdamenace says:

    He’s forgotten about the Stoke game has he, ahh that’s nice, i’m pleased it’s soon out of his mind, it still hurts me, still i’m an Arsenal supporter, i wouldn’t expect him to understand….

  584. gambon says:

    Franchise Merida

  585. A says:

    Examples RG – Kolo, Eboue, VP, Bendtner, Eduardo, Vermaelen, Clichy, Traore, Denilson, Song, Diaby

    Come on Geoff, think about it logically. He will have been asked whether the Stoke game would take away our momentum, affect our confidence, and he said that he’s just focussed on the next game and already forgotten Stoke.

  586. dennisdamenace says:

    The two goals that lumbering Danish bullock will score before the end of the season will make all the difference, mark my words people :lol:

  587. didee says:

    A,

    well whatever lame reason it was, it sure put a toe up our arses when we lost to sunderland and he was the rock we couldnt break

  588. Franchise says:

    our youngsters have teased the carling cup for years now, managed one final appearance and now its like we have Cesc and the rest.

  589. charybdis1966 says:

    A & N – turtle face has to make any representations to the FA by tomorrow evening as the hearing, where I presume they’ll make the judgement(a 3 game ban would be nice as it’s a charge for violent conduct)is on Thursday.

    A Tom – Vidic is still out with a thigh injury and obviously no O’Shea. So it’ll probably be a cb pairing of Jonny Evans and Wes Brown again.

    C’mon the Arsh – you and Bendy can rip ‘em up sunday.

  590. choy Says:
    January 26, 2010 at 13:46

    Wow.. players like nasri and ramsey ahead of schedule!

    Amazing!

    ——————————————————–

    “However Nasri and Ramsey will be 21 days each. We could have a good surprise with both because they are usually quick recovering players but common sense tells us 21 days.” taken from http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/walcott-and-denilson-return-for-bolton-clash

  591. timao says:

    I can’t believe anyone is doubting the wisdom of signing Huntelaar – don’t forget there is a precedent for signing Dutch international strikers who struggled in Milan!!! And KJH’s record for Real Madrid was 8 goals in 13 starts, plus 7 substitute appearances. Not too shabby.

  592. choy says:

    timao.. we need someone physical.

    KJH is like Eddie.

  593. dennisdamenace says:

    Quick Fran, get round his house and sign the fucker up for the youth team….

  594. SUGA3 says:

    timao,

    to compare Huntelaar to other certain Dutchman is nothing short of blasphemy…

    repent…

  595. Tariq says:

    Just saw this …

    “As the case is being dealt with under the FA’s fast-track system, Ferdinand could either plead guilty and accept the three-match suspension or challenge the decision, in which case a disciplinary hearing will be held on Thursday.

    Even if Ferdinand does admit his guilt, he could still figure in tomorrow night’s Carling Cup semi-final with Manchester City at Old Trafford and begin his punishment on Sunday, when the Red Devils visit Arsenal.

    That seems a more logical move that beginning the suspension immediately, as United also have the option to do, a move that would rule Ferdinand out of the games against City, Arsenal and Portsmouth at Old Trafford on February 6.”

  596. Arsenal Tom says:

    pregnant man!? thats just a fat fucking woman with a beard!

  597. choy says:

    what did ferdinand do

  598. timao says:

    SUGA3 the comparison is mere fact, if/when he comes to Arsenal then just maybe he will become another legend! Andhe is a big physical striker who scores with every part of his anatomy from anywhere on the pitch, so not really like eduardo

  599. rob green says:

    ”Examples RG – Kolo, Eboue, VP, Bendtner, Eduardo, Vermaelen, Clichy, Traore, Denilson, Song, Diaby”

    are you serious? Is that what you call great scout work!!

    Eboue – Sh*t
    VP – already known
    Bendtner – Still unproven
    Eduardo – Already known international
    ermaelen – Already known international
    Traore – Still unproven
    Denilson – Sh*t
    song – not bad getting better IMO
    Diaby – Still unproven

  600. charybdis1966 says:

    So Tariq, it looks like he’ll miss out on the game against us either way. That’ll be good.

  601. Arsenal Tom says:

    choy… elbowed craig fagan off the ball

  602. choy says:

    how can you call eboue shit ?

  603. A says:

    didee you reckon Cana was the rock we couldn’t break?! Cana was pants against us imo, we just missed chances, we dominated the midfield, and Cana!

    Fair enough rg, that’s your opinion!

  604. choy says:

    thanks AT.

  605. zak says:

    Fuck me, some luck at last, injured players coming back and Rio out for Sunday. Whisper it quietly.

  606. charybdis1966 says:

    Choy -he elbowed Fagan quite deliberately and aggressively and the ref didn’t see it but he booked Fagan for dissent when he protested about it.
    Well it was at Old Toilet – what do you expect.
    F**king mank loving ref cunts.

  607. rob green says:

    Choy – Do you think the find of eboue was great scouting!!

    He isn’t good enough for first team arsenal!!

  608. Tariq says:

    Choy..he struck out at Fagan (think it was Fagan) in their game against Hull. Yea, it looks like he might miss our game this Sunday.

  609. Arse&Nose says:

    Old Toilet lol!

    Chary, I have not met someone with soo much contempt for Man Ure! I love it!

  610. rob green says:

    A – Maybe I went a bit OTT I just don’t think the scouts are that good and finding the gems that people think!!

  611. charybdis1966 says:

    Wenger’s reasoning for not signing Smalling, it would kill Cedric Evina.

  612. A says:

    rg – complete unknown who played the whole time in our getting to the final of the champs league, and was on the shortlist for defender of the year that year, I’d say it’s pretty exceptional scouting

  613. charybdis1966 says:

    Yeah, I’m notorious for it A & N ! I was worse in the days of Keane/Ince – extra reasons to hate the cunts.

  614. zeus says:

    Nasri is back.

    Does anyone else think that Wenger, great spin doctor he is, deliberately told the public Nasri and Ramsey would be out for 3 weeks knowing that would not be the case so as to give some false credit to the under fire medical staff?

  615. choy says:

    yeah ok just saw the incident.. what a twat..

    eboue is a decent RB.

  616. A says:

    The medical staff aren’t under fire zeus….

    Wenger said there was a chance of them coming back sooner, but 21 days was the maximum

  617. dennisdamenace says:

    charybdis1966 Says:
    January 26, 2010 at 14:34

    Wenger’s reasoning for not signing Smalling, it would kill Cedric Evina.

    I think you’ll find chary that his actual reasoning is that it would kill the as yet unborn child of the manwoman!!

  618. charybdis1966 says:

    Oh no DDM – now that’s forward thinking ! :)

  619. choy says:

    lol zeus.. I don’t think its that complicated!

  620. Arse&Nose says:

    chary, don’t mention those cunts they would make my blood boil.
    I still hate the manks with venom, but at the moment I hate Neville, Evra and Fletcher the most. Not to mention Shrek.

  621. dennisdamenace says:

    Get ‘em early chary, get ‘em early, only total obedience will tolerated….

  622. choy says:

    stupid question.. where does the baby come out from?

  623. timao says:

    maybe could we do with a bit more of this in our team?

  624. wilson says:

    Wenger loves Denilson coz he looks cute!Song is the man for the dirty job, no dought!

  625. A says:

    what a dick timao, makes me want us to sign him even less!

  626. timao says:

    well, i’m not condoing violence… but you have know how to dish it out as well as soak it up. maybe it’s a dutch thing?

  627. dennisdamenace says:

    choy – well, it’s like this, first mummy sits on the toilet seat after daddy’s been to the toilet, then nine months later a magical stork delivers a new baby……simples!

  628. insidealbania says:

    So wonky lip Rio should miss our game whatever happens right?

  629. Franchise says:

    choy it was a woman who decided she wants to be a man. the womb is still there only fuck knows if there is still an exit

    if i were God i would make herim (her/him) ;) give birth through her penis hole

  630. charybdis1966 says:

    DDM – brainwash ‘em from the beginning.
    A & N – for me it’s old Fungus-scum, Shrek and Evra who are my top 3 hate figures from the Glazers franchise.

  631. choy says:

    I can’t even imagine that franchise!!!

  632. dennisdamenace says:

    Fran – I’d throw the freak cunt in a hole, and bury it alive. No wonder society’s so fucked up.

  633. insidealbania says:

    Fran – and the selfish herim doesnt think of that kid getting fucked in school for having shim (she/him) for a muddy (mummy/daddy)

  634. insidealbania says:

    DDM – I will help you dig mate.

  635. Franchise says:

    its just technology that is giving humanity so much freedom to think we can have whatever is it that we wish. As much as i sympatise with ppl that claim to be trapped in the wrong case or body whichever u wish to call it, what would they have done in the days of Noah when the most sophisticated technological achievement was a floating ark? think about it 8)

  636. Arsenal Tom says:

    well said DDM

  637. choy says:

    Imagine the kid and how much shit he/she will have to go through!

  638. Simon says:

    Do you belive in santa too Fran?

  639. Franchise says:

    i believe in everything Simon

    as long as it involves having fun

  640. Franchise says:

    i dont want the blog going all religious cos of moi but IMO all ccounts of creation dont make sense

    garden of eden, big bang etc

    its a big mystery though. bigger than any one of us can fathom

    how the fuck do you explain an infinite universe? my brain tells is programmed to believe that everything has an end and from there something else starts

    sex is good

  641. A says:

    Suffered Franchise! Just like they would have died if they’d gotten ill!

  642. zak says:

    It’s not over yet!!!!

    The Frenchman remained tight-lipped over a possible move for Smalling but he will not give up on the 20-year-old defender until another club has secured his signature.

    “It just looks like Manchester United offered more money than us,” replied Wenger when the latest speculation was put to him.

    “As long as the player has not signed anywhere it is not the end of it. Let’s see what happens there.

    “We will not come out on what we are doing exactly but as you [reporters] say it has come out on television but that doesn’t mean it is true.

    “So let’s see. If we have anything more to tell you we will let you know.”

  643. goonermichael says:

    rednose shrek and fletcher die you cunts

  644. Bozin says:

    Franchise to your question @14:50

    People would adapt. People adapt to circumstances. Technology has made life easier for us, making us lazier in the process :P

  645. Dutchman says:

    zak, it looks like wenger has an agreement with smalling, isn’t it??

  646. Goonerman says:

    I did not watch SSN yesterday nor this morning BUT I would love to know how many times did SSN replay Rio elbowing Fagan? SSN love Man U.

    Now if it were an Arsenal player doing the same thing it would have been replayed all day Monday and Tuesday just to help get him banned. True.

  647. goonermichael says:

    If it’s only good you’re doing something wrong :)

  648. Bozin says:

    I hope for a war with United for Smalling. I really don’t know his qualities, but I hope we beat ManYoo for his signature.

  649. Duvee says:

    I hate all this talk about Smalling. So what, he won’t even start. Our 2 centre halves don’t get injured. We need a striker that will fit straight in there.

    It would be nice to get him though….

  650. GARYC says:

    Re Stoke” We fought very hard” Must have seen a different game to the rest of us then

  651. SUGA3 says:

    Duvee,

    Billy looks like he can get injured anytime soon…

  652. zak says:

    Wenger said Song looked very tired yesterday and only MAY be available for Sunday. Hope he joking ffs.

  653. Franchise says:

    Goonerman if he were not English you meant to say

  654. A says:

    SUGA he looks like he does actually get injured every game! I swear every game there’s one point where he lands badly, or gets up with a massive limp from a challenge, and I always sit there thinking fuck he’s gonna out a while, and always plays on and makes the next game

  655. Duke says:

    Evening all, how you guys hanging in?

  656. Duke says:

    zak, Wenger’s mind games, Song will play for sure vs ManUre.

  657. choy says:

    Yep.. its wenger and his mindgames!

  658. Goonerman says:

    Franchise – you are right the big English names are untouchable.

  659. Jaguar says:

    Taking a leaf out of Pedro’s advice
    1)Silvestre is a legend
    2)Denilson is the best DM in the world
    3)AKBs are legends
    4)Arsene Wenger is the best manager in the world.
    5)We will retain the treble, which we won last season.

    :)

  660. JohnA says:

    Compare that with how many times they showed the Gallas tackle against Bolton !

    Also, Wenger will play Song against the Manc scum and say that he’s a new signing !

  661. Pedro says:

    Jaguar, I’m proud of you ;-)

    Good to hear we’re still in the running for Smalling.

    Who’d go to United? The future they’ve got looks very dodgy… and it’s in Manc land…

  662. Smalling “may” be lured to us ust like ramsey in belief of FIRST TEAM football…

    if we get smalling,am sure he will go straight to first team.

  663. Pedro

    how do i change my photo/gravatar here

  664. Pedro says:

    Sabeel, you’ve got to be kidding me!

    You think he’ll go in ahead of Gallas or Vermy?

  665. A says:

    My thinking too Pedro, along with the fact that he’d be staying in London if he chose us, and he can look at Ramsey’s progress since he joined us, and recent hype, as showing that he should make the same decision!

    I do think though after Ramsey that Fergie may well pull out all the stops to try and get Smalling

  666. No pedro

    i didnt mean that,

    i mean smalling may not have to go through the youth setup route/proving how good he is

    he will be in first team in contention for start,if god forbid any of our gallas/vermy may pick any injury..

    what i mean is,he has MORE chance like ramsey to get into first team contentions HERE than at Manures

  667. Goonerman says:

    Wenger seemed very upbeat and happy during this pm’s press conference.

  668. gambon says:

    The silly thing is Wenger can be so arrogant & principled on prices that he is probably trying to negotiate Fulham down from the price they agreed with ManUtd

    AW; “How about £6m?”

    FC (Fulham Chairman); “How many times Arsene, we have agreed £8m with UTD”

    AW; “My last offer is £6.2m”

    FC; “I just said, its £8m”

    AW; “I dont think he’s worth £8m, i will pay £6.4m”

    FC; “Didnt you see what utd have offered?! Its in all the papers”

    AW; “I didnt see anything!”

  669. Pedro

    how do i change my photo/gravatar here.

  670. t-buzz says:

    Gambon!! You know Wenger so well!!!

  671. Pedro says:

    A, I’d imagine that the money on offer wont be much different and if he’s been raised in Kent, he’ll be more interested in the Gooners.

    If he’s not… he’s a mercenary.

    Plus, he’s probably got a load of mates around here, a house, a bird… if Arsenal are offering you the chance to take over from gallas who is 32, that is better than taking over from two 29 year olds for prospects…

  672. thats what i meant pedro @ 15.45

  673. insidealbania says:

    Sabeel, I dont think he will be ahead of Campbell or Fishface this season

  674. Gunners The Stunners says:

    Sabeel,

    Go into ‘wordpress.com’ and create a profile. Once you’ve created the profile, you can go in there and upload the photo of your choice. Once you’ve done that, just come on Le-grove and add your website in website box (it’s above comments box). Your photo/gravatr will appear with your comments.

  675. A says:

    gambon Wenger doesn’t do the negotiating, Gazidis does.

    That’s what i’m thinking too Pedro.

  676. cool…thanks stunners

  677. nishanth says:

    Is Bendtner and Nasri available for tomorrow’s game?

  678. Pedro says:

    For me… if we sold Kolo for £14mill, we better not lose out on smalling for the odd half million here or there…

    That would be fucking outrageous.

    Wenger either thinks he’s good enough or he doesn’t… if he believes in his ability, £9.5million will be a snip as he’d be worth double within a couple of seasons.

    We can’t go all Alonso on this transfer…

  679. inside

    he will be ahead of campbell agreed,but i doubt he will be ahead of fishhead

  680. Pedro says:

    … and like A said, Gazidis is negotiating… and he didn’t let us down on Vermaelen.

  681. Gunners The Stunners says:

    No probs, Sabeel.

  682. gambon says:

    Ultimately it will come down to money.

    We have more of it, so we should use it! We cant offer huge wages due to the wages other guys are on, but we can offer a big sign-on fee that UTD probably cant.

    My how the tables have turned!

    Also the London thing will no doubt help.

  683. GMR says:

    I see Wenger said he isn’t after any strikers. Then he goes on to explain why Theo is so poor at present, talking about how long he’s been out & that you cannot expect him to come back & be great straight away. I understand that totally, but isn’t that what Wenger is expecting with Bendtner as he’s been out for months as well, & seen as Eduardo appears to have lost all traces of goal scoring ability our reliance will be totally on Bendtner.

  684. rayman says:

    I expect song to play against ManU. He didn’t look tired against egypt he just looked like he couldn’t give a shit, he wanted to get back to us for the Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool games…

  685. 78692 says:

    BREAKING NEWS ON SKY SPORTS NEWS!!

    MANYOU COMFIRM THAT CHRIS SMALLING WILL JOIN THEM IN THE SUMMER AFTER AGREEING PERSONAL TERMS WITH THE PLAYER.

  686. Pedro says:

    Great point GMR

  687. t-buzz says:

    True Pedro,
    It’s going to be a tough one cos Rednose isnt going to back down easily especially as Rio Lipsy isnt playing regularly due to back problems (Tony Adams went through that didnt he?). Count Vidic seems to be turning towrads Spain with Real and Barca in tow. Wenger and co really need to step up their offer, or may be they are using Ebay tactics, who knows….?

  688. choy says:

    Good move i reckon for smalling, looks like senderos will leave in the summer for free.

    Hence we will have Gallas, Verm, Dj and maybe smalling.

  689. GMR says:

    Young central defenders do get a chance at Man Utd, they don’t at Arsenal. Wenger will play youngsters everywhere except in cd, unless of course we have loads of injuries.

  690. gambon says:

    A

    Blimey youre too serious!

    Pedro,

    Exactly. If wenger thinks he’s top class then there isnt really any difference between £7.5m & £9m or whatever.

  691. KM says:

    if we get Smalling it will be egg on ManU’s face….and vice versa ;)

  692. KM says:

    BREAKING NEWS ON SKY SPORTS NEWS!!
    MANYOo COMFIRM THAT CHRIS SMALLING WILL JOIN THEM IN THE SUMMER AFTER AGREEING PERSONAL TERMS WITH THE PLAYER.

  693. Lew says:

    smalling’s joining man utd in the summer

  694. gambon says:

    GMR

    I actually said to a gooner pal at lunch that he may have better chances to play at UTD.

    Having said that Djourou has played plenty of games, as did Phil before Wenger decided he detested him.

  695. A says:

    It shouldn’t and I doubt it would come down to money in a case like this gambon. Our being in the same city, with a proven record for bringing through youngsters, and a very obvious opportunity for first team football opening up soon, should turn the tide our way.

    Was gonna say he’ll be mates with the likes of Wilshere, Lansbury, Hoyte, Gibbs from the England U20s, but Utd have a fair few players he’ll know in the same way.

  696. KM says:

    that Smalling is a bastard. ManU must have offered him crazy money…..li’l fukker!!

  697. Pedro says:

    Ok, so I take it back… Gazidis is fucking useless at negotiating.

    I simply can’t believe we’ve missed out on a player because we wouldn’t pay enough…

  698. 78692 says:

    Salaam KM,

    Too late mate,

    Manure have agreed terms with him. He will remain with Fulham until the Summer.

  699. A says:

    ah well, shit happens!

  700. KM says:

    thank god we didnt sign Smalling…it would hurt the progress of Silvestre

  701. A says:

    Pedro I doubt it was that. Fergie will have pulled out all the stops for him, been very persuasive

  702. gambon says:

    We do seem to be missing out on a lot of players in recent years (since Dein left maybe?)

    And there are probably loads more we dont even know about.

  703. 78692 says:

    If we had David Dein, Smalling would have signed for us.

    GAZIDIS PLEASE GO AND TAKE THE BOARD WITH YOU.

  704. Hmmm

    Sad that we let slip smalling…

  705. 78692 says:

    AARRRRGGGGG

  706. insidealbania says:

    A – how do you get that kind of intel?

  707. 78692 says:

    Does this mean that Vidic is leaving in the Summer?

  708. t-buzz says:

    I knew Rednose wasnt going to let it slip through his fingers….!
    Oh well, another transfer period (almost)done and no players in sight!

    No choice but to support the Old guard and Dad’s Army now…! :)

  709. GMR says:

    gambon – remember our debate last week about this money issue. Wenger wanted Smalling but the board or Gazidis has let him down. It’s clear that through this whole window Wenger only appears to have been after one player & yet again the board have failed to deliver him.

    It was only a few weeks ago that an agent was talking about just how many players Wenger has wanted but yet none of them come off, why is that?? Although Wenger is also to blame, its about time anger started being directed at the board.

  710. it is on manutd.com

    hate to paste a manure site,but seeing the context

    here it is confirmation of smalling signing..

    Grrr

    http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6645696

  711. A says:

    You’d have to assume it inside – Fergie isn’t stupid enough to repeat the same mistake as he did with Ramsey!

  712. gambon says:

    Maybe Wenger can use the Benzema excuse;

    “I didnt expect him to leave yet”

    Well Arsene, they dont all wait for you to call.

    On a positive note, at least Arsene is trying to improve the defence. If we could get to <25 goals conceeded per season we'd be unstoppable!

  713. mike__ says:

    i still dont see how he thinks we dont need any strikers. i know it is old ground but if with a full compliment of strikers available in the summer he felt the need to try to sign chamakh….then surely we need one now? lol.

    i would like to see us get smalling the way he is talking about him shows he is deffo interested in him.
    i guess in his eyes smalling is old enough to be back up or even compete for a 1st team slot next season but not old enough and experienced enough to demand a 1st team place now and cause friction….maybe thats why he didnt go for hangeland?

  714. choy says:

    I can already see the headlines in a couple of years!

    We knew the lad, Smalling was here before joining Utd, but it didn’t work out. Its important that he does well in his career with us or with some other team

  715. gazzap says:

    wenger will be totally pissed off about not getting Smalling, he has now signed for Man U.
    In his interview he sounded like he didn’t want to beleive it was dead.
    Oh wenger, too slow again.

  716. JAY20H says:

    This board are really pissing me off every transfer window now.

  717. KM says:

    dnt worry lads, he’s only small – fry ;)

  718. gambon says:

    GMR

    Who knows. But i do remember Hill Wood saying that Wenger decides the value of a player if we want to sign them.

    If we offered too little it may be Wengers fault.

    Id imagine we just never got to speak to the player. UTD bid, he spioke to fergie, he agreed the deal whilst Arsene was leaving msg after msg on his agents phone.

    Maybe we were never even interested, but now Arsene can say he tried.

    Either way, doesnt really matter now. We need 25 year olds, not 20.

  719. SUGA3 says:

    A,

    ManYoo are fucking skint and we are sitting on piles of wonga…

    spend some money, fucking tight bastards!

  720. Pedro says:

    A, so you’re saying we failed.

    That’s what it is if you can’t persuade someone to join you.

  721. rayman says:

    Weird, AW certainly looked like he knew something about the smalling deal during the press conference today. Funny to say anything as it makes him look like an utter knob now.

    Not fussed about smalling, he won’t join Utd until next season all I care about is this season. Of course we still need to buy CBs in the summer so nothing really has changed unless you think smalling was the only CB in the world and nobody had heard of him until a few weeks ago. Would prefer if whoever we buy in the summer had a bit more experience than smalling has anyway.

  722. Pedro says:

    Gambon, I think Wenger was with him last week. Don’t listen to all that Myles Palmer bollocks, he was in Fulham.

  723. Arse&Nose says:

    Man UTD have AGREED a deal. No sign anywhere of them saying the AGREEMENT has been signed or completed.

  724. choy says:

    Summer is world cup time..

  725. mike__ says:

    wow…just wow

    whats the point of making record profits if you never go out and spend it? just once i would like arsenal to identify a player and go out and buy him get the deal done instead of this haggle haggle and haggle some more mentality.

  726. 78692 says:

    SUGA3,its so frustrating mate. I bet ManYoo only offered an extra Million for him.

  727. 78692 says:

    ArseNose,its on their website according to Sabeel.

  728. Arse&Nose says:

    Smalling is rubbish, he will fail – fuck him.

  729. rayman says:

    Utd wouldn’t put it up on their website if there was any doubt – smalling must be a done deal

  730. Duvee says:

    So Smalling has agreed terms with Man U and will join them for the start of the 10/11 season!
    http://www.sportinglife.com/clients/tiscali/football/transfer_centre/

  731. gambon says:

    Pedro

    Well UTD mustve offered £35k pw starting salary, where as Wenger said “look i cant do that right now cos i keep giving every retard that walks through the door a long term deal, but how about £5k pw”

    “now you’ll have to excuse me Chris, Vito Mannones just walked in after a new deal”

  732. zak says:

    If we really wanted Smalling, what the fuck was gazidis and the board and Wenger playing at, why are we soooo slow with transfers. He may prove a great signing he may not, but if we wanted him why not go all out and get him. He’ll be worth a lot more money after having just been an Arsenal or Man U player if he does’nt prove himself. ffs wenger

  733. Franchise says:

    something to cheer you guys up

  734. gambon says:

    Lol A&N

    If he’d signed for us you’d be saying how great he is!

  735. Pedro says:

    If it’s on their website, it’ll take a miracle for us to intervene.

  736. GMR says:

    gambon – I also remember it being said that when Arsene wants to sign a player the board have to meet & each member has to write down what he thinks that player is worth, both in transfer fee & wage. I remember it so clearly because the only one who used to write big numbers down was Dein & look what happened to him.

    If the next two results don’t go right then come tuesday (transfer window closed) everybody will be slagging Wenger off on here again, but the question is whether it’s actually his fault or whether the board just refuse to spend any money. I just don’t believe that Wenger doesn’t want any players at all.

  737. goonermichael says:

    Smalling has gone to United

  738. goonermichael says:

    At least we gave Mannone an extension

  739. A says:

    rayman i wouldn’t go that far! remember http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={B4CEE8FA-9A47-47BC-B069-3F7A2F35DB70}&newsid=6610831

  740. Arse&Nose says:

    I’m not bitter about smalling going to man utd, I knew all along that he was shite. We dont need defenders anyway, we will play Song at CB and maybe make Nasri are right back.

  741. Pedro says:

    Gambon, if we lost out on wages… I’d have to point out the monstrous salary Theo is on…

    What a fucking disappointment.

  742. rob green says:

    We get Campbell they get Smalling!!

  743. CHIPPY says:

    Lol i couldnt give a fuck about smalling im more excited about our new property developments ;-)

  744. 78692 says:

    Pedro,how you got Gazidis’ email? I want to give him a piece of my mind.

  745. gambon says:

    GMR

    Theres no way that would happen. Most of em arent qualified to value a player, they know little about football.

    It would be like Fiszman asking us lot to value his diamonds.

  746. mike__ says:

    so if we dont like to buy players in january because of inflated prices (despite the arshavin impact) and we dont like buying players or find it hard to buy players when it is euros or world cup because of inflated prices. then does that mean ideally arsenal would like to wait till summer 2011 for ideal market conditions to buy someone?

  747. goonermichael says:

    This is looking like it’s going to outdo the last 2 windows for dissapointment. We haven’t signed anybody. Don’t say Campbell because he was out of contract so we could have signed him anytime.

  748. A says:

    This just means we’ll get in a Subotic or equivalent in the summer, not a big deal right now – he wouldn’t have arrived until the summer anyways

  749. gambon says:

    We must be a bit of a joke to other chaimen.

    We hardly ever call, and when we do we make pathetic offers!

    Yet we’ll pay the like of Theo, mannone what ever they want.

  750. zeus says:

    Speaking of Walcott, Wenger says he will be back to his ‘best’ in 6 weeks.

    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/-you-ll-see-a-different-walcott-in-six-weeks-

    IN six weeks our season could be off the rails.

  751. Keyser says:

    Is Smalling the biggest transfer soo far ? I’m pretty disgusted with that, if we’d bought him we’d have sent out a real message to all the other clubs that we mean business, shocking management.

  752. gambon says:

    * chairmen

  753. CHIPPY says:

    Look on the brightside Djourou will be back in the summer he will be like a new signing :-)

  754. Pedro says:

    A, Subotic wont play second fiddle to Vermaelen or Gallas… and they want a packet for him!

  755. Micky Did It 89 says:

    Smalling must be thick as well as an utter cunt.

  756. gambon says:

    Lol, pretty obvious Wenger/Arsenal has someone who follows public opinion on the blogs.

    Cant be a coincidence that they released that snippet now!

  757. Micky Did It 89 says:

    Anyway, moving swiftly on, is Diaby up for selection tomorrow?

  758. gambon says:

    Micky Did it,

    Why exactly? Joining one of the worlds, if not the worlds, biggest club.

    Loads of money & learns from the best CB partnership in the league.

    Its not really a bad move.

  759. goonermichael says:

    Diaby’s out Mickey

  760. GMR says:

    gambon – thats what used to happen. I can’t speak about now because I would doubt with Kroenke on the board & the Carrs etc no longer being on it that it would work.

    Whoever’s fault this is though, it’s becoming a farce. Every transfer window Wenger says he wants a couple of players & every window we fail to get them. It’s possible Wenger just lies each time but it’s more likely that the person who does deals keeps screwing them up.

  761. Keyser says:

    “Lol, pretty obvious Wenger/Arsenal has someone who follows public opinion on the blogs.”

    Heh, we all like to feel loved and appreciated.

  762. A says:

    I’d say he’d come in and take over from Gallas pretty sharpish Pedro, he’s coming to the end of his career, even if he signs this new contract I’m not sure he’ll be first choice all next season….

    If not Subotic then someone similar. Another Vemaelen type signing, similar age, similar price. I’d say that’s what Smalling would’ve been, though less experienced obviously.

    Missing out on him is a bugger, but it would just have been a bit of summer business done early, just gotta find another target for the same role.

  763. Pedro says:

    A, in case you hadn’t noticed… I’m a rampant xenophobe…. I wanted Smalling.

  764. A says:

    gambon, they released that now, because the press conference was just now, and in it the press asked Wenger about Theo’s form, or lack thereof!

  765. NW5 Gooner says:

    Coca-Cola Championship side Crystal Palace have been placed in administration, administrators P & A Partnership said today

  766. goonermichael says:

    Gambon
    How will he learn from the best centre back partnership in the League?

  767. WB says:

    so i guess its Arsenal 1-1 ManU.
    must confess i m really gutted to lose on smalling, i think we really need him as out of 4 available CB’s, 3 can leave in summer, and djourou is injured more often than he is fit.

  768. NW5 Gooner says:

    They are starting to fall. Who will be next?

  769. SharkeySure says:

    “What a fucking disappointment.”

    Wot a madhouse this place is.

    Honestly, hands up, who has even seen him play..??

  770. Micky Did It 89 says:

    Gambon: I don’t even know who you are talking about! He no longer exists. Fingers in ears..mmmmmm

  771. Micky Did It 89 says:

    Hi GoonerM: Oh big shit.

  772. gambon says:

    A

    My point is they would never normally run an article on a players lack of form. These questions are answered every time wenger has a press conference but never made public as they arent important enough.

    They released it for our benefit due to the criticsm of the last few days.

  773. Dutchman says:

    I hate wenger!!!!! He says with much confidence ” there is nothing done,so it is not the end” we will see what happens”!!!! FUCK OFF WENGER!!!!! You stubborn cunt!!! Guys, i can say that smalling will be first choice CB for man u in about two years!!!!
    And wenger failed again to sign such a talent!! He is such an greedy Cunt!!! I hate him!!

  774. gambon says:

    Micky

    Thats the spirit! :-)

  775. tom says:

    If you were smalling would you (bare in mind he’s not an arsenal fan)

    Go to play with Rio, Rooney, Giggs, Scholes and Van Der Sar

    Or come to play with Almunia, Cesc, Bendtner, Gallas and Theo Fucking Walcott?

    Im an arsenal fan and even i struggle to justify that.

  776. SUGA3 says:

    A,

    please mate – keep’em coming :lol:

  777. SharkeySure says:

    Gambon…don’t confuse the LG view as being the view of most blogs.

    Ie. someone on LG thinks its ‘the fucking mugs’ who sing ‘One Arsene Wenger’, but doesnt think that puts HIM in the minority.

    Its odd.

  778. Pedro says:

    Tom, I’d go an play with all my under 21 buddies, Cesc, Arshavin, Gallas, Vermaelen, Robin and Nasri

  779. CHIPPY says:

    We signed anyone yet :-)

    United must have another geriatric on there books they would be happy to offload onto us now theyve got a new toy to play with, maybe we can get Neville this time he looks slower than a one legged carthorse !!

  780. choy says:

    Who saw ronaldo play SS when he was signed by UTD?

  781. Keyser says:

    “Im an arsenal fan and even i struggle to justify that.”

    Do you know what a fanatic is ?!

  782. gambon says:

    Have to say, i dont care about missing out on this guy, but it did make Wenger look like a bit of a clown.

    Wenger; “It’s not over yet” (said with a grin)

    1 Hour later; ‘Smalling Signs for UTD’

  783. Dutchman says:

    tom and arshavin, RvP,fabregas, gallas ,vermealen, song and rosicky!!!

  784. A says:

    fair dos pedro!

  785. KM says:

    oh well…maybe nxt time

  786. Keyser says:

    Bit disappointed with the Smalling deal, actually couldn’t care less, looks just like Bartley.

    What about Benni McCarthy ? Has he moved yet ?!

  787. N1 Gooner says:

    You fuck wits will never learn you should listen to geoff more and not sit on the fucking fence all the time, get wenger out and more than half of project youth and start again, we ve done it before we ll do it again, as i said earlier the old chestnut of brother uncles friend mothers uncle, but vic akers told “someone” that arsenal only offered 3.5 mil !!!!
    ffs manure are broke and can still out bid us ffs, my first game i watch was in 76 my last season ticket was in 2006 and ive sat through neil,howe and graham, i would fucking happly go back to that shit now just to get away from the bullshit and lies that spew from our once great club, which tbh is using smoke and mirrors and luck to get away with being so near the top, arsenal fans need to stop being the bloke who caught his wife taking up the arse and then says we should go relate and sort this out!!!!!!

  788. gambon says:

    Sharkey

    I meant public opinion in general. I have about 6 Arsenal supporting friends, none of them on LG, and all of them have commented on basically how shit Theo is.

    Not was on sunday, IS in general.

  789. SharkeySure says:

    Dutchman…..you’re ranting like a lunatic!!

    Ten days ago you’d never heard of Smalling, but now you’ve got your WAC hat on..??

  790. GMR says:

    tom – strange choice of players to pick. Out all those Man Utd ones the only decent one is Rooney, the rest are either past it or badly in decline.

  791. CHIPPY says:

    Gambon,
    Its was funnier when United put they had signed Ramsey on their official site :-)

  792. gambon says:

    N1

    Do you have a brother called Jimbo?

  793. goonermichael says:

    Giggs Scholes and vds are all geriatrics. Vidic will be gone. smalling is going to replace him. Why do you think they have signed him in the summer and not now? because they have to sell first.

  794. gambon says:

    or Jaguar?

  795. A says:

    gambon they run articles on all the things that are asked and answered in the press conferences! The press who ask the questions are the ones who control what things are talked about!

    Arse.com reports what’s said in the press conferences.

    When does something like that come from a press conference, but not get reported on Arse.com?

    They released it today because Wenger said it today because he was asked about it today!

    The media asked it because of his form, and perhaps public opinion, but Wenger answering it, and that going on Arse.com had NOTHING to do with public opinion

  796. Keyser says:

    When did Theo score his hat trick against Croatia ? What was that like a couple of years ago ?! Honestly seems like forever away.

  797. SharkeySure says:

    Sorry Gambon…I thought you were talking about the wider ‘malaise’ not Theo in particular.

    Im no fan. Not very hopefyl these days either. I see a lotof the U10′s playing football as my son’s been at it for 3 years now (he’s 9).

    You can see how a player progreses from age 5 to 6, then 6 to 7. Theo didn’t start til aged 10 !!!

    Sometimes it really seems to show…

  798. GMR says:

    Could be wrong but I don’t think anyone is particularly upset we missed out on Smalling, I think its more that we know he was the only target & the fact we missed out becomes significant.

  799. Arse&Nose says:

    I’m not upset about signing no one.

    I just get high looking at our end of year profits.

    Infact we should all get together for a drink then go to a conference room to project slides of our profit growth! We could even have chants based on our healthy balance sheets.

    “We’ve got more equity, we’ve more equity”

    “C’mon the profits!”

    “One billion dollers, theres only one billion dollers, one billion dollers….”

  800. Keyser says:

    gambon – heh, I was thinking that to.

  801. A says:

    also gambon, the questions aren’t asked everytime, but hidden! They’re asked by the press, who then publish articles on what they’ve asked, and what Wenger said.

    It never happens that they ask something, Wenger answers it, and they run a story on it, but Arse.com pretends it didn’t happen….

    Arse.com just report EVERYTHING that happens in the press conferences, but put a positive spin on it.

  802. Micky Did It 89 says:

    If Utd have to sell Rooney, then they are truly fucked. So they get Smalling.

  803. SharkeySure says:

    N1 Gooner.

    How much should we have paid for Smalling, oh wise one.

    Or do you have to wait til Geoffs back to give us an answer…??

  804. Keyser says:

    GMR – I think most people are stuck in a rut, where everything seems like it’s the end of the world, we need to win something this year to snap them out of it.

    It’s like we’re just waiting for the next fall to come along.

  805. frichie79 says:

    God some of these comments are ridiculous…to the point that you NOW getting upset cos we didnt buy an overpriced, overrated kid for more than 7 million. Take a step back and think about it rationally. FFS

    Yes Smalling looks like he can play a bit, but a few good games is no marker, and certainly not for the prices floating about, what did we pay for Vermaelen, and experienced international???, and you want Wenger to break the bank on a gamble.

    Bet you anything Fergies chuckling but will be the one with egg on his face, when he loses Vidic and Rio and has to rely on some expensive kid THAT may or may not even get many games in the last half of the season

  806. gambon says:

    Pretty much the only time hes ever done anything for England aint it!

    His record for us of 1 in 7 games is pretty good though!

    I think even Wenger must know by now that he got mugged there!

  807. Samir says:

    We can do better than Smalling…

    Plenty more fish in the seas lads ;)

  808. SharkeySure says:

    GMR – “that we know he was the only target”

    You don’t know.

    Speculating is fun and a half decent pastime, but getting mad and angry over it….odd

  809. Samir says:

    Now we can get Zapata…. The finished article!

  810. gambon says:

    It would be quite funny if the board frmaed the financial report and put it in the trophy room cos it looked a bit stupid being so empty!

  811. A says:

    I’d be happy enough with Zapata Samir!

  812. GMR says:

    Keyser – I get depressed when I see players like silvestre on the team sheet when someone like Bartley could’ve learnt a great deal from playing alongside Campbell. The result may have been exactly the same, but at least Bartley would learn from it, where as Silvester only makes the mistakes because he’s past it & cannot react any longer.

    I think Bartley could be just as good as Smalling but he never plays. Whats the point in having Campbells experience for 5 months if none of the young defenders will get to learn from it in an actual match situation.

  813. Samir says:

    Arsenal look set to miss out on highly rated central defender Chris Smalling after Fulham reportedly turned down a bid from the Gunners and have instead accepted an offer from cash-strapped Manchester United.

    The club have been making regular checks on the former Maidstone United defender after he broke into the Fulham first-team, and news emerged last week that Ivan Gazidis had approached the Cottagers and were readying a bid. Arsène Wenger refused to speak about the potential deal and suggested it would be better for both sides if they kept everything quiet until a deal was done.

    Manchester United have now been alerted to his availability and this morning two formal offers were made for the England Under 21 international. Arsenal’s – believed to be around £7 million – was rejected while United’s was accepted and they have now been given permission to talk to the player. There is no news as yet to whether the club will return with a second offer.

    Article By – J.Sanderson

  814. Arse&Nose says:

    Zapata is no better than kamil Zayate.

    I’m quite happy to sign no one and go to the emirates to be presented with a match day program full of stats about our economic growth.

    While we are at it why not enter a team of spreadsheets and pie-charts to play for our carling cup team next year.

  815. GMR says:

    SS – It’s a pretty good guess he was the only target, but who’s upset by it? certainly not me.

  816. Micky Did It 89 says:

    It is quite funny how some people are upset that we did not sign Smallthing. Think about it. Another fucking hopeful one for the future. I don’t give a flying fuck about the future, I want Dzeko playing TOMORROW.

  817. Samir says:

    So we actually bid for him…..
    Why not offer 7M as well as Man U have done. Also offer him the same wages and see what he chooses….

    I can be my house on it that Wenger bid 2-4M….
    Always trying to get a bargain when he has the odd 40M there….

  818. A says:

    GMR considering it seems that he was only going to come in the summer anyways, it has little to no impact on this season, and certainly not someone I’m devastated at missing out on! We’ve got the whole summer to find someone better!

  819. SharkeySure says:

    OK, GMR fair do’s, Looking at your comment again I cabn see where your coming from now.

    I’ve wrongly limped it in with some of the other shite I’ve read this last hour.

    My mistake.

  820. Zak says:

    It’s not losing out on Smalling that particularly bothers me, it’s the whols transfer policy. As a headhunter, which essentially transfers are, you identify a target and pull out all the stops to get them. Wenger has’nt just noticed Smalling over the past few days, he would have a dosier on him for months. Why then leave it untill the end of Jan when we should have snapped him up on the 1st/2nd Jan. There’s no point in waiting and the downside is another company beating you to the deal. And please don’t say we hoped to save a few quid, if he’s that good his value will rocket over the next few seasons.

  821. A says:

    I wonder if that’s why he’s ended up at Utd – because Fulham would only accept a bid for him to leave in the summer, and we wanted him now

  822. Samir says:

    Arse&Nose;
    Zapata is the business. Strong and Fast.

  823. Arsenal Tom says:

    hardly surprising we missed out on smalling! once man utd get involved they very rarely miss out and yeah i know about ramsey.

  824. Samir says:

    Woops… Not “be” “BET”

  825. GMR says:

    A – I wouldn’t bank on anything happening this summer. It’s world cup year so prices will be inflated, we won’t buy under those circumstances.

  826. SharkeySure says:

    *lumped*

  827. Arsenal Tom says:

    A… the talk was we’d loan him back till the summer.

    we missed out because we fucked around like always cos we’re a bunch of tight arses

  828. A says:

    Zak by my reckoning I’d say we’ve been looking at him for a while, but the only reason we made a move now, and the same with Utd, is because of interest from competitors. I’d guess he was earmarked before as a summer target, but because others wanted him we tried to do the deal early, even though he wouldn’t arrive until the summer.

  829. Pedro says:

    Sharkey, Fergie has watched him, Wenger has watched him… they both liked him.

    Surely that’s enough?

  830. GMR says:

    SS – no problem.

  831. frichie79 says:

    Bovverd???

    Nah.

    I think Gallas will sign a new contract and we will have the V/G partnership for next year, Hopefully we will get a new CB as back up who can team up with Bartley or Sol as 3rd and 4th

  832. A says:

    Yeah AT that was the talk as such, but when it was put to Wenger in the Stoke press conference he said he could arrive now, rather than the summer.

  833. Arse&Nose says:

    Exclusive – Wenger to unleash new striker on Man Utd.

    A source close to the club has revealed that Arsene Wenger will give a debut to his new striker against Manchester Utd on Sunday. It is thought the striker will add the final ingredient to the pace and fluidity of Arsenals attack.

    Since the departure of Adebayor in the summer Arsenal have missed height and power in their attack. Against a weakened Manchester United defense it is thought that Wenger will unleash the height of Rev. Enue Graph.

  834. gambon says:

    Lol, N1, lots of anger there.

    I’d take Adil Rami from Lille.

  835. Pedro says:

    … and don’t start going on the high and mighty rampage.

    Talk about the football, give your opinion… but don’t start commentating on everyone else and how crazy they are compared to you.

  836. Arsenal Tom says:

    A… he also said “its not over” and look what happened there.

    we didnt get him because we’re crap at signing players, its always so drawn out these days

  837. Arsenal Tom says:

    lol A&N

  838. A says:

    Yeah AT, what does that have to do with our intentions?! Wenger knows whether we wanted him to come now or the summer, he had no idea whether he’d signed a contract with Utd or not, and at that point he hadn’t!

    I wouldn’t say we’re crap at signing players, last time this happened we stole Ramsey from Utd!

  839. gazzap says:

    With Palace in administration we can get Moses for dead cheap, they would have to accept £2m or less. come on wenger get off your lazy arse man.

  840. Arse&Nose says:

    I’ve just heard Arsenal are in talks with a young French Senegalese midfielder called Balan cesheet.

  841. Keyser says:

    Pedro – Heh, who was the last comment for ?!

  842. Johan says:

    I spoke to a Manc friend of mine earlier, and he told me that with the renegotiation of their bonds they have 75 mil to spend on transfers.

    I don’t know any details of course, but looks like 8 of them just went to get Smalling.

    As for Rooney, I’m pretty sure he’s never going to leave ManU.

    Wenger/Or the board, whatever, seem to be pissing about yet again with our faith and our (increasing lack of)believe in them..

  843. Zak says:

    A

    I think the phrase “Nero fiddled while Rome burned” springs to mind. If any manager thinks that a player will improve a squad then why wait. IF wenger really wanted him then he should have made his move mid december and tied it up early Jan.

  844. gazzap says:

    Would much rather get a big strong englishman than a flop from Madrid/Milan. Moses over Huntelaar every time for me.

  845. frichie79 says:

    Are you tuning me Pedro?

  846. A says:

    I’d rather not gazzap! Now they’re in administration Moses will probably end up at Notts Forest or West Brom.

    Maybe Wigan, as they love championship players, though havn’t they just signed a forward?

    Not good enough for us, I wouldn’t want him. I wouldn’t be surprised if Palace and Moses’ agent just did an amazing job of creating hype, and neither us nor City were ever interested. Palace were desperate to flog Moses because of their financial situation.

  847. Keyser says:

    GMR – I think they’ll learn just by having them around, I want Bartley to be given a chance where he’s next to one of our regulars, I think he’ll get it, he’s just come out of the Youth side, he’s got years yet.

    He can learn from Sol and even Silvestre in the reserves and then Gallas should get an extension and he’ll have him aswell.

  848. Arsenal Tom says:

    A… fair enough on ramsey, that was the only signing recently we’ve done quickly and quietly.

    if wenger wanted him then theres no reason why he shouldn’t be an arsenal player now. we got in there before man utd but still seem to have lost out because of money.

    its pathetic

  849. gambon says:

    Moses is neither big, nor strong, and is a million miles behind Huntelaar.

    And i dont even like Huntelaar.

  850. A says:

    Zak he wanted him as one for the future, not now. Fulham also obviously didn’t want to sell him now. As such this transfer window was completely irrelevant, if we’re signing a player in the summer, it could have been organised in December, or February.

    I’d rather someone better than both gazzap! Saha or Cole!

  851. Arse&Nose says:

    Arsenal are primarily interested in Profits, which is why I believe we will get Moses.

  852. nasridane says:

    ARSENAL just had a bid accepted for Smalling! hahahah Ramsey all over again!

  853. GMR says:

    Arsenal have had a bid for Smalling accepted now!! Apparently Man Utd jumped the gun.

  854. SUGA3 says:

    nasridane,

    link?

  855. Pedro says:

    Good fucking job…

    My miracle is here!

  856. GMR says:

    Doesn’t mean he’s signing for us, but it’s still funny that Man Utd jumped the gun.

  857. Arsenal Tom says:

    wheres that nasridane?

  858. nasridane says:

    it was just said on Sky sports news

  859. Pedro says:

    Didn’t ManU say they’d signed Rambo?

  860. A says:

    Where’s that from GMR/nasridane?

  861. Arse&Nose says:

    If this is true about smalling then Man Utd and their web team are building up quite a reputation as premuture ejaculators!

  862. Pedro says:

    SSN, the gospel of truth!

  863. GMR says:

    Pedro – they never said they’d signed Rambo, just that they’d agreed terms with Cardiff.

  864. Pedro says:

    A&N, ain’t nowt wrong with that…

    That is really poor if they have done that. Chelsea did it with the Robinho shirts!

  865. Keyser says:

    Are you all bullshitting here ? Lol, I’ve never paid much attention to him, I thought he was white for one when I tried to remember who played against Drogba for Fulham.

    Maybe it was all a Fulham ploy to up the price, maybe United just put a bid in for fun.. Who knows.

  866. 78692 says:

    !!BREAKING NEWS ON SKY SPORTS NEWS!!

    ARSENAL BID FOR SMALLING ACCEPTED ASWELL.

  867. GMR says:

    It was on SSN, it was their reporter outside OT, said that Arsenal have now had a bid accepted & that no medical or anything had yet been done by Man Utd etc.

  868. Pedro says:

    You don’t expect shit like that to happen at a Billion pound soccer club!

  869. A says:

    GMR you being serious or having a giggle? Just turned on SSN and nothing on the breaking news bar?

  870. Arsenal Tom says:

    A club spokesperson told ManUtd.com: “Manchester United has agreed terms for the transfer of Chris Smalling from Fulham. Chris has agreed personal terms with the club and will join for the beginning of the 2010/2011 campaign. He will remain at Fulham until the end of the current season.”

    you sure nasridane?

  871. petrovic says:

    i don`t give a fuck if bendtner`s back!i don`t give a fuck if we are rumoured to be in for cole,remy, chamakh or any other wannabe! i`ve had enough of this shit season after season,i`m going to judge wenger in may when we have thrown the carling cup,mugged off the f.a cup,fallen short in the league because of injuries and been trounced in the semi`s of the champs lgue,sound familiar?

  872. Pedro says:

    Well… now it comes down to who is the more persuasive…

    I’m sure Arsene was with him last week.

  873. Arse&Nose says:

    HATE TO SAY I TOLD YOU SO!!

    Arse&Nose Says:
    January 26, 2010 at 16:13 <——–

    Man UTD have AGREED a deal. No sign anywhere of them saying the AGREEMENT has been signed or completed.

  874. SharkeySure says:

    Pedro – Fair point about Arsene wanting Smalling.

    Isn’t it therefore also a fair point that we should also respect his valuation of the player as well…??

  875. Pedro says:

    A… none of the stories have been on SSN in good time today

  876. GMR says:

    A – no seriously, I had only just switched over when the bloke was reporting it.

  877. Keyser says:

    Maybe Skysports are that desperate their trying to drag out a possible move for a 20 year old defender, they’ve been getting more and more shocking with their reporting over the last few days.

  878. Zak says:

    A

    When you say “He” did you mean Wenger or Fergie, if Wenger didn’t want him now and thought he was one for the future then why didn’t we buy him and loan him back to Fulham as Man U have done. Surely we have to act quicker if we identify a player that can improve the squad (now or in the future) Personally I’m not to bothered if went to Man u but it’s the general principle of transfers that concern me.

  879. may says:

    Yah Arse&Nose:-) …His agent Equity also has just confirmed it.He is also 9 year old. Last heard Barca and MU were after him but Arsene wenger called him personally and gave him his autographed diary to secure his signature.

    Arse&Nose Says:
    January 26, 2010 at 17:02

    I’ve just heard Arsenal are in talks with a young French Senegalese midfielder called Balan cesheet.

  880. Keyser says:

    Are there people trolling the site ?!

  881. nasridane says:

    all websites suggest the deal is wrapped up for united…BUT a live report from sky sports news reporter said arsenal had a bid accepted and fulham said there are still details needed sorting out and no deal is complete!

  882. SharkeySure says:

    I thought I’d only had a warning.

    Fuck me you two are so sensitive these days…..and this after all the shit that went unpunished yesterday.

  883. Pedro says:

    Fuck you A&N, you’re banned!

  884. Pedro says:

    That comes with a ;-)

    Just incase you thought I was serious

  885. rayman says:

    Nothing on SSN transfer clockwatch about an Arsenal bid, the last thing on there is the announcement that man U have agreed a deal

  886. A says:

    Zak what I would think is that Wenger has been drawing up a list of centre back targets to bring in in the summer, Smalling was on that list, though not the only target.

    We heard that Utd were looking like they wanted him too, and so as to not miss out we tried to snap him up to beat them to the punch, whereupon they offered too.

    I’d imagine that our mind wasn’t made up that we wanted him, but Utd’s interest forced our hand

  887. GMR says:

    Whoever posted the done deal on Man Utd’s website will be a dead man if he don’t sign for them.

  888. Pedro says:

    Keyser, stop slagging SSN off… they’re always right.

  889. Arse&Nose says:

    What did I do wrong?

  890. Micky Did It 89 says:

    Now, lets get this straight. When I said Smalling was thick and a cunt, what I meant to say was, I have not quite made up my mind yet. Ok? Just a series of small typing errors!

  891. may says:

    This time also we will be signing at the end.
    Not for winning though…but just to be in the top 4.
    Had faith in Arsenal but now the whole club seems to revolve around Arsene.

    Depressing!!!

  892. Pedro says:

    I’ll have to go back and delete all the comments about Smalling being a cunt if he signs.

  893. Pedro says:

    Micky, I’ve got it covered if things change ;-)

  894. Arsenal Tom says:

    moyes on senderos…

    “Maybe if we had a big budget we would have signed someone who could have gone straight into the team but Philippe was as good as we were going to get in our situation.

  895. Arse&Nose says:

    hahah you had me there for a second!

    Goodnight fellas, lets hope tomorrow begins with a front page of Fergie with egg on his face :D

  896. A says:

    lol AT, not exactly bigging him up! If their financial situation is that bad then we can take Saha off their hands, free up the wages for them to get Huntelaar

  897. 78692 says:

    Micky/Pedders :)

  898. Arsenal Tom says:

    pedro… if we do take mine out about us being shit at signing players!! or maybe just save em and post em back up in the summer ;)

  899. Micky Did It 89 says:

    Pedro: I never said nothing, guvner, honest!

  900. Keyser says:

    I’d never slag off Sky, gives me too much pleasure, though I do think they’re itching to use their special touch screen transfer thing they have in their studio at SkysportsNews.

  901. gazzap says:

    I am just imagining fergie’s face if we get Smalling. fucking priceless.

  902. Pedro says:

    Keyser, I’d love to have one of those…

  903. nasridane says:

    “you’ll see a different theo in 6 weeks” an i for one believe that!

  904. Arsenal Tom says:

    A… lets hope so mate! if we got smalling and saha we’ve had a blinder

    and you know i was obviously joking about us being crap and singings earlier ;)

  905. Arsenal Tom says:

    nasridane… an injured one probably

  906. mike__ says:

    well SSN just said that fulham have said the deal has not been done yet despite man u saying it all sealed…nothing about an arsenal bid…

  907. GMR says:

    I’m beginning to wonder, SSN aren’t saying anything about Arsenal’s bid now, just that Man Utd have said the deal is done & that Fulham say it isn’t.

  908. Pedro says:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Smalling

    They’d best amend this aswell

  909. Keyser says:

    Pedro – You’ve probably got one, I’m pretty sure it’s a Blackberry, they zoom in one really close and pretend it’s touchscreen.

  910. Pedro says:

    Sharkey, I didn’t ban you… you must have switched computers or something.

  911. A says:

    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/26012010/58/la-liga-ronaldo-angered-divers.html

    lol, he’s either really thick thinking he can con people into thinking that, or he’s as deluded as an x factor contestant chucked out in the first round.

    He elbowed the bloke, broke his nose, and keeps complaining, what a clown.

  912. Seems like we have some exciting moments all becos of pooor standard of reporting

  913. Pedro says:

    Right… off home… catch you in a bit.

  914. mike__ says:

    btw i feel sorry for sendoeros if thats what moyes thinks of him lol not what you want to hear when you just signed for a new club even if it is a loan.

  915. gambon says:

    I really doubt theres anything in this, it seems hes signed for UTD.

  916. mike__ says:

    *senderos

  917. gambon says:

    I think Moyes meantthey would rather have signed someone than loaned.

  918. ardentgooner says:

    I think the deal is done.. He is a ManU player now.. I was hoping for a Ramsey type miracle but then looks like Fergie just offered some shit which Smalling couldn’t refuse….. Anyway we move on….. ARSENAL!!!!!!

  919. mike__ says:

    well the man u site is saying they have agreed terms with smalling so if he has agreed and possibly signed papers then it doesnt matter if arsenal have a new bid accepted.

  920. frichie79 says:

    Fergie just offered some shit which Smalling couldn’t refuse…

    BLOWJOBS!!!

    lol

  921. NW5 Gooner says:

    Sabeel. Fulham can accept two offers, just as a company can agree to two takeover offers. It just depends now on personal terms.

  922. ardentgooner says:

    frichie79

    I was thinking of something similar ;) haha

  923. A says:

    mike that’s where the original belief that they’d signed him came from, but it seems that statement is wrong, Fulham have said no deal is done, therefore there’s still a chance.

  924. rico says:

    This is from the Fulham website guys and gals :(

    Fulham can confirm that it has reached an agreement with Manchester United for the transfer of Central Defender Chris Smalling.

    Should a successful medical be completed and final terms agreed the player will join Sir Alex Ferguson’s team at the start of the 2010/2011 season, staying at Fulham for the remainder of the current season.

  925. rico says:

    How rude of me, afternoon all

  926. choy says:

    Hello Rico..

    how are you doing?

  927. gambon says:

    Just give him whatever he wants. I wanna see Fergie explain it if he joins us!

    If he wants Eboue as his own man-servant, so be it!

  928. David says:

    Im just curious…how much did we bid for Smalling?

    3m pounds and a bag of chips?

  929. ardentgooner says:

    haha..have u ever seen wenger do a deal and sign players for the coming transfer window..FUCK NO!! He leaves it till the last hour to sign players how were all of us hoping that he would sign Smalling for next summer…..hahahahhahahahhahahah

  930. Micky Did It 89 says:

    How much did we pay for Verm? 8m?

  931. ardentgooner says:

    Blackburn have agreed a fee with West Ham for South Africa striker Benni McCarthy.

    The clubs have reached agreement over the transfer fee but are still negotiating over a couple of other issues, Press Association Sport understands.

    McCarthy has infuriated Rovers by staying away from training for the last three days in order to try to force a move through.

    HOW ABOUT COLE TO ARSENAL NOW??? :)

  932. A says:

    Noone knows and noone will ever know David!

  933. rico says:

    Hi choy, not so bad thanks, you?

  934. David says:

    “It just looks like Manchester United offered more money than us,” said Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger.

    No fucking shyte Arsene.

  935. A says:

    What did he say after that though David?!

  936. A says:

    From the Utd website 18 months ago –

    “United have agreed a fee with Cardiff City to bring talented teenager Aaron Ramsey to Old Trafford.

    The 17-year-old left-sided midfielder has yet to agree personal terms and must also pass a medical before any deal can be completed.”

    Fulham’s website now –

    ” Fulham can confirm that it has reached an agreement with Manchester United for the transfer of Central Defender Chris Smalling.

    Should a successful medical be completed and final terms agreed the player will join Sir Alex Ferguson’s team at the start of the 2010/2011 season”

  937. choy says:

    am great rico.. thank you!

  938. A says:

    The only difference is “final terms” rather than “personal terms”

  939. ardentgooner says:

    when was the last time we signed a player for the next transfer window???
    huh?? get over it………
    LETS SNAP UP COLE NOW that BENI MCARTHY HAS AGREED TO JOIN WEST HAM!!!!!!!!!!!!

  940. gambon says:

    Well lets hope this one goes our way as well then A!

    Bartley & Smalling are the future!

  941. Stu says:

    Cardiff agreed a fee with United. Fulham have agreed the transfer. There is a big difference.

  942. Jaguar says:

    Location:Craven Cottage

    Wenger:Roy,What about ze offer of £3m

    Hodgson:Arsene,I’ve told you that the Scot Scum has placed a bid of 8m.

    Wenger:Zorry,I ziznt zee zat,what about £3.1m.

    Hodgson:WTF Arsene,cant you count ?

    Wenger:Roy,my final offer is £4m,I zink he is not worth more zan zat,and he doesnt suit any of our criteria.

    Hodgson:Criteria,I thought you wanted a defender as a cover for Gallas

    Wenger:I want ze player only if he fits in the following criteria
    1) The player should speak English in a funny accent
    2)He should have been injured, thrice in the last four months,and should have sat out of atleast five matches
    3)He shouldnt be ambidextrous
    4)He shouldnt be taller than 5’11

    Hodgson:I’m afraid Arsene,Chris doesnt fit into anyof your criteria. SS today reported that a lady in Angola gave birth to eight kids at the same time

    Wenger:Oh my lovely Roy,why didnt you tell me zis earlier. I’m darting off now to zee I can find a bargain.

  943. A says:

    Would be pretty awesome if it did gambon! I’m not optimistic, nor that bothered about Smalling, but it would be pretty funny if we did a Ramsey on Utd again!

    Yeah ardent, I wouldn’t mind that! Though West Ham did say they were after two forwards, they may need another one before letting Cole go.

  944. David says:

    Not to mention Arsene had to have lunch and wine and dine the kid before he came to Arsenal.

  945. gambon says:

    Lol, i love your use of the word “thrice” Jaguar.

  946. finestcuts says:

    It’s on the manyoo website:

    http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6645696

  947. A says:

    What’s the difference Stu?!

    In both cases the clubs had agreed terms, but personal terms, and medical hadn’t happened….

  948. A says:

    That’s where it started finest – identical to the Ramsey story last year

  949. A says:

    I’m not saying we’ll sign him, I don’t think we will, but just saying the similarities are pretty funny with Utd’s website jumping the gun.

  950. Paolo says:

    Fulham can confirm that it has reached an agreement with Manchester United for the transfer of Central Defender Chris Smalling.

    Should a successful medical be completed and final terms agreed the player will join Sir Alex Ferguson’s team at the start of the 2010/2011 season, staying at Fulham for the remainder of the current season.

    NOT a done deal just yet

  951. Jaguar says:

    This time,unfortunately United wont be sending Neville to speak to Smalling,which means we can give up our hopes.

  952. finestcuts says:

    I’ve said this before, I reckon it will be Szczesny…..but I reckon we’ll see Almunia between the sticks until 2012/201 at least. I hope my Almunia prediction is wrong unless he keeps the goals out.

  953. finestcuts says:

    His father was Poland’s no.1 back in the 70s when Poland had a good team, he’s had expert coaching ever since he could catch a ball.

  954. Micky Did It 89 says:

    Look, lets be crystal clear about this Smalling fella. If he signs for us, he will probably become a legend. If he goes to Utd, then he’s a cunt, and we didn’t want another one for the future anyway.

  955. Jaguar says:

    I’m pretty sure that our goal keeping coaches would cut his skills out.

  956. finestcuts says:

    Micky, I’ll give you evens on him signing for us, fancy it?

  957. Micky Did It 89 says:

    Finest; Im not a betting man, and do not even understand what “evens” means. Probably that I just give you a tenner, or something similar!!
    While you are here, can you enlighten us as to the meaning of your name?

  958. Micky Did It 89 says:

    You are not a butcher, are you???!!!!!

  959. Micky Did It 89 says:

    Film editor, perhaps??

  960. davoody says:

    Not Sure about this smalling!

    Right now I think it would be nice to sign anyone, so i’m unsure as to if I would be clutching at straws just so we had someone come in.

    Unless UTD have ballsed it up again, then he looks like a manc now anyhow. so im not gonna waste anymore energy.

    What annoys me is come 1st of Feb, he will now turn around a say that he tried (PV4 = man city offered better wages and Smalling = Man utd offered more than 10p)

    deja vu :(

  961. Mike says:

    Does anyone know of a pub in Highbury and Islington or close by showing the game tomorrow evening?

  962. Micky Did It 89 says:

    Chin up, Davoody. There’s a massive five days left.

  963. Pedro says:

    Oh great… so the Smalling deal has been done.

    Brilliant…

  964. luke says:

    What ever happened to Lucina Traore? I guess nothing did…stupid question

  965. SUGA3 says:

    Guten Abend meine Herren! :lol:

    Pedro,

    no surprise there, is it?

  966. luke says:

    Yeah Pedro, manures website confirmed

  967. Micky Did It 89 says:

    That’s it. Smallthing was a cunt after all.

  968. davoody says:

    @Micky He may suprise me yet…. but i have gave up hope.

    I always thought that if we were going to sign anyone he would have had them in place for the next 4 games as they define the league title push for me.

    Still you never know, like you say 5 days…. :|

  969. Micky Did It 89 says:

    Davoody. You are being silly now. All that logic and all!!! Sign someone before important games…phaaa

  970. Pedro says:

    Make that a double cunt micky.

    Suga… I guess not… embarrassing that we didn’t even stump up enough cash to chat with him.

  971. SUGA3 says:

    don’t hold your breath…

    ‘we have qualitee and I have belief in mental strength of zis team’

  972. A says:

    Pedro no the smalling deal hasn’t been done…. yet. No more so than it had been 3 hours ago, and no more so than Ramsey’s transfer to them was done 18 months ago.

    Still a tiny bit of hope there!

  973. David says:

    Smalling a cunt? Fulham sold him to the Highest bidder.

    8m.

    Penny Pinching strikes again.

  974. SUGA3 says:

    Pedro,

    especially that we have piles of cash waiting to be spent…

  975. SUGA3 says:

    A,

    come on mate, don’t be naive…

  976. A says:

    Micky not yet! Nothing’s changed since it first came out that the deal isn’t done after Utd announced it!

  977. A says:

    naive how SUGA??

  978. A says:

    Surely it would be naive to say that the deal is DEFINITELY done, when it’s no different to what happened with Ramsey some 18 months ago?

    It’s very likely that he’s gonna sign for Utd, but far from definite just yet

  979. GoonerT1m says:

    come on smalling…come to the home of football and the cescy football…..

  980. SUGA3 says:

    fuck’s sake, A, it’s bleeding obvious that we didn’t come up with the right offer…

    again, it’s an embarrassment – we have enough money!

    yet, we have only spent approx. £5M on fucking kids, where we all can see the gaping holes in the senior squad…

    madness…

  981. Micky Did It 89 says:

    Oh god. What’s a man to do. I shall have to leave the lad Smalling in the cunt waiting room. Man jobs to do down here in the woods. Fattening the calf and all that.
    I shall join you all here am. Have fun!

  982. A says:

    Bleeding obvious how SUGA?!

    You not been paying attention?! Sky Sports even claimed that we’d had an offer accepted for him at one point!

    This transfer would have nothing to do with gaping holes in the senior squad at the moment anyways seeing as he wouldn’t join until the summer….

  983. SUGA3 says:

    to say that a player will sign for a club that will offer him less money just because it’s closer to home is naive…

    footballers are skating on a thin ice – any moment they may sustain a career ending injury, so they must think about themselves, not about living closer to their mums, ffs…

  984. SUGA3 says:

    yes, our offer has been accepted, then Alchy came up with a better one – are YOU paying attention?

    ergo, our offer was not right, was it?

  985. A says:

    Closer to their Mums?! Closer to all their friends and family obviously makes a difference. Who said anything about us offering less money? It’s incredibly naive to believe that money is the ONLY thing that matters to footballers, or people in general!

  986. SUGA3 says:

    besides, my statement about gaps in our squad had nothing to do with the Smalling thing – more about spending money on kids and ignoring deficiencies of the senior squad, capisce?

  987. Tariq says:

    I’m just gonna relax on this whole Smalling thing. I’m hearing now it’s really up to him, who he wants to join because we have matched the fee. His choice. They say he’s been an Arsenal fan all his life, so we’ll see what he wants to do.

  988. A says:

    No SUGA, you’ve got it the wrong way round.

    Utd announced on their site that a deal was in place.

    Then Fulham announced that in actual fact the deal wasn’t done, and Sky Sports said that we’d had an offer accepted as well, AFTER Utd had announced that their deal was in place.

    Now Sky Sports are no longer talking about our offer, but Fulham have confirmed that the deal isn’t complete, it’s dependent on Utd agreeing terms with Smalling, and his having a medical.

  989. 78692 says:

    Tariq,how do you know he is an Arsenal fan?

  990. SUGA3 says:

    A,

    you have got to be fucking kidding me: it’s not Hong Kong we are talking about, it’s Manchester – how long does it take you to drive or fly?

    if you earn money you can afford to pay £3.99 for your friends’ plane tickets, right?

    calling me naive – priceless…

    I am as cynical as it gets ;)

  991. Zak says:

    If Wenger thinks Chesny is that good then why is he still on loan, he can’t be any worse than we already have.
    Wenger said

    “He has all the qualities you want from a goalkeeper. That means a good basic confidence level, he is very brave, fantastic size, very agile and his speed in his reflexes is absolutely unbelievable.

    “When you think it is a goal, with him it is still no goal. He makes unbelievable saves. We are great believers that he will be an outstanding goalkeeper.”

  992. SUGA3 says:

    well, the only chance to poach this deal is to go there now and whip out the wallet…

    oh wait…

  993. Tariq says:

    I’ve read from numerous sites he was a Gooner long long before he was even linked to us.

  994. SFOGooner says:

    If vermi is 10 million, why do we need to sign a kid for 8?

  995. SUGA3 says:

    Zak,

    I would rather have him in goal in the cup games than the fucking Bambi…

    Szczesny absolutely pisses all over him, being much younger…

    yet, we tie up Vito on a long term deal to be in his way, when I hoped he will be dumped as soon as Accrington Stanley will come up with an offer :lol:

  996. SUGA3 says:

    SFO,

    because English players are largely overpriced, that’s why…

  997. choy says:

    SFO .. I think he is gallas’s long term replacement.

  998. GoonerT1m says:

    A Gooner 4 life…

  999. SFOGooner says:

    But if we pay 8 now and if he is ready in 3 years (say 40k per week), we would have paid 14 mill. Surely the scouting network can find somebody ready for that price?

  1000. davoody says:

    SSN really haven’t got a scooby they are just hedging there bet on this Smalling deal….

  1001. SFOGooner says:

    That Heitinga guy at everton who had an excellent game against us was around 8 mill I guess ..

  1002. choy says:

    He’d probably play a couple of league games, cup games.

    SFO , you know better, this is project youth.

  1003. GoonerT1m says:

    not an english player, he wants more english…

  1004. SFOGooner says:

    I hate aw doing this .. By the time walcott is ready we would have paid upwards of 20 mill on him ..and still there is no guarantee he will make it!

  1005. nasridane says:

    Who’s seen reyes play recently? how good is he ‘eh???

  1006. GoonerT1m says:

    according to Arsene he WILL make it!!!

  1007. A says:

    SUGA it has nothing to do with money, it’s the time it takes to get from A to B! You don’t just jump on a plane to pop to a mates for a coffee, or a beer!

    Obviously a player’s geographical location makes a difference, you see it all the times, and see players say it all the time!

  1008. BigRaddy says:

    Doesn’t say much for Bartley does it? Only 2 years younger and our Reserve team captain.

    Quite frankly, I don’t give a damn about Smalling. I want an experienced CB as backup to WG & TV, not another potentially great player, aand 6 games don’t make you quality. Look at David Bentley. If Smalling comes, great. If he signs for MU, he is clearly a twat.

    Also has AW given up on JD? It would appear so.

  1009. BigRaddy says:

    Bartley is a Manchester lad. Maybe we can arrange a swap deal….

  1010. SharkeySure says:

    Pedro – fair do’s, the timing was just a bit tioo coincidental for me I guess.

    Anyways, thanks for the update, it did seem a little out of character.

    Point taken re my ‘holier than thou’ stuff as well.

    Cheers

  1011. BOY BETTER KNOW says:

    …..

  1012. Mr B says:

    So it was the cunt Sabeel. Not the quickest of cats at the best of times, if u know what I mean!

  1013. SUGA3 says:

    A,

    whatever mate, you’re just clutching at straws – footballers are professionals, they play for money, simple as…

    BR,

    JD has no future here, he is not good enough to be a CB – I think he may do well in DM spot though: I can see him being our Yaya there…

  1014. SUGA3 says:

    no future as CB, that is…

  1015. BOY BETTER KNOW says:

    What a load of bollocks with this smalling situation,has he or jasn’t he signed for united

  1016. davoody says:

    I think he gave up on JD a while back now. Although The verminator aside its not often he even considers sorting the defence out.

    Please don’t say Campbell. As much as I love what he did (leaving the yids for us). He is not seriously a long term anwser to the problem. Smalling may well of been a solid cover for BWG and TV however we may now never know on that one.

    Still hoping that he has something up his sleeve for us though. Im fighting the fact that deep down i know he won’t.

  1017. A says:

    Smalling is gonna be at Spuds tonight too, someone get over there and ambush him when he leaves!

    I wouldn’t say that re JD Raddy, I’d say the opposite potentially. Come the summer we’ll be left with Gallas(maybe), Vermy, JD, so we need to sign one other. Signing someone like Smalling would show that Wenger does have faith in JD, so bringing in someone younger who would be 4th choice, with JD next in line.

    No BBK he hasn’t signed for Utd, but probably will tomorrow

  1018. A says:

    SUGA3 it really isn’t simple as that. Money is important, but not the ONLY thing that EVERY footballer considers important.

  1019. SUGA3 says:

    A,

    more often than not…

  1020. BOY BETTER KNOW says:

    ok cheers a for clearing that up

  1021. Samir says:

    Brilliant news lads!!!
    Though Smalling was gone!!!

    Get in there Wenger you Legend!!

  1022. Fulham are saying its just fee agreed, final personal terms is to be decided.

    http://www.fulhamfc.com/Club/News/NewsArticles/2010/January/SmallingStatement.aspx

  1023. SharkeySure says:

    Sug. Do you think its the no.1 concern for Fabregas..??

    I’d reckon there’s a few at Arsenal who could earn a lot more elsewhere…Fab, RVP, Arsh, maybe even Clichy.

    We’re not the best payers but we are a great footballing club. Thats a draw surely…

  1024. SUGA3 says:

    Samir,

    what brilliant news?

    did I miss anything?

  1025. Tariq says:

    What news is that?

  1026. SharkeySure says:

    Sug..I make you rioght anout the tin ice thing though, although I’m sure they have insurance payouts for careers ended by injury.

    Most Prem players prob only need that first half decent contract these days

  1027. SUGA3 says:

    SS,

    fair enough…

    then again: Ronaldo…

    cunt he may be, but a brilliant player nevertheless…

  1028. SharkeySure says:

    *about the thin ice*

  1029. Samir says:

    Thought*

  1030. kingsley says:

    has anyone seen ssn recently….read on another blog some guy said they are now hedging their bets and saying he could sign for either?

  1031. Samir says:

    The Smalling news lol.
    I have just seen it!

  1032. mike__ says:

    he is in the fulham team tonight and ssn are now saying that he will join man u or arsenal at the end of the season so even they aint sure now whats happening lol.

    i think its a done deal as far as smalling himself is concerned and he wont be signing for us.

  1033. SharkeySure says:

    Can you imagine coming home and telling your Mrs that the whole family is moving in two weeks, cos the clubs accepted a bid.

    Juninho to Middlesbrough. He asked where it was, they told him it was on the coast. Wot like Rio he said. Yeah sort of.

    Fair play to him though, he saw it through in some style

  1034. A says:

    mike I’d say the opposite – it’s a done deal with Fulham, Smalling hasn’t decided anything yet

  1035. Samir says:

    Yer, he’d have to decide with his family….

    I have also heard on an Arsenal forum that Smalling is an Arsenal supporter!!!

  1036. BigRaddy says:

    AW must be fuming that this is all over the press. He hates that.

    Get Ramsey to give Smalling a call

  1037. Samir says:

    He will chose us.
    Why would he move all the way up North??

    He will move up the road to us!!

    No Arsenal fan would want to play for Man Ure!!

  1038. BOY BETTER KNOW says:

    you could say the same about rambo

  1039. SUGA3 says:

    SS,

    yep, I can – this is professional football we’re talking about ;)

  1040. Samir says:

    Choose*
    Teriable spealingz taday!? :)

  1041. A says:

    Exactly my thinking Samir!

  1042. Tariq says:

    I’m not going to lie….this is pretty funny. I think he we still sign for them, but if turns out to be like Ramsey, I will piss myself laughing.

  1043. SUGA3 says:

    and the insurance payouts are certainly linked to earnings, no?

  1044. Samir says:

    I will also be laughing like f*ck!!

    Beating Man u to another wonderkid would just be hilarious!

  1045. GoonerT1m says:

    its already very funny….

  1046. A says:

    SUGA3 in the wider scheme of things, the difference between £55k and £60k a week isn’t going to massively affect how comfortable a player’s standard of living will be if he has to retire early

  1047. SharkeySure says:

    Thats true Raddy, the kids only got to look at Ramsey’s playing time for us this season, and how well he’s coming along.

    Only problem is that its easier to give sub minutes almost anywhere on the pitch than at CB.

    Would he be more concerned about dislodging WG or TV, than fighting it out with Evans and Ginger Brown at Man IOU once Vidic has gone..??

    I’d love to know what the transfer fees are?? £4m, £8m. ??

  1048. SharkeySure says:

    Yeah Sug, they would be….thats why I say they’re laughing after one decent contract.

  1049. nasridane says:

    All eyes on chris smalling tonight… if he can keep out the yids, hes quality in my book! will tell u if hes worth it at 10pm

  1050. Samir says:

    Seeing Smalling is a Gooner his father must be one as-well.

    If I was him and Smalling signed for Man Ure, I would slap him silly!

  1051. nasridane says:

    fucking sky sports news… they just said hes heading to united in the summer! make up ur minds like!!!

  1052. luke says:

    A, do you still think we will sign a striker?

  1053. mike__ says:

    Samir – cesc left his boyhood club, his family and his homeland at 15 to come join us.

    so smalling being a boyhood gooner but going up north to play for them isnt as far fetched as it seems

  1054. A says:

    Yeah i still reckon so luke!

  1055. Samir says:

    Remember this

    Manchester United have signed Cardiff teenager Aaron Ramsey for £5million.

    United’s interest was first revealed by Mirror Sport and midfielder Ramsey, 17, will spend next season on loan at his former club before moving to Old Trafford.

    Cardiff will receive £2m with the rest of the fee payable upon completion of clauses.

    Ramsey, who made his Cardiff debut at 16, is regarded as Wales’ most talented left-sided midfielder since Ryan Giggs.

    By agreeing a fee with Cardiff, United have fended off interest from Arsenal, Liverpool and Everton for the player who featured as a sub in last month’s FA Cup Final defeat by Portsmouth.

    A club statement read: “Manchester United is delighted to announce it has agreed terms with Cardiff for the transfer of Aaron Ramsey.”

  1056. luke says:

    Alright good to hear as I think we need one. Walcott, Rosicky, Eduardo are fragile, Arsh has been on the verge on injury playing with a knock, and who knows how bendtner will be. Need I remind everyone RVP is out

  1057. Frichie says:

    “He has played three games this year. You cannot be at the top of your game for a striker with three games in six months – that does not exist. He needs a bit of luck.” AW on Walcott

    Interesting quote: What is he expecting of Bendtner after being out for 3 months!!! Or is he saying Bendtner will need about 6 weeks to to get competitive. hmmm

  1058. luke says:

    Thanks samir, there is still hope then

  1059. Samir says:

    mike__;

    I don’t see why he would leave all his family and friends behind when he could move up the road and play for the team he and his family support.

    Transfer’s galore this week. Wenger might go mad and buy a ST as-well!

  1060. mike__ says:

    the difference between ramsey & smalling is they dont mention agreeing terms with ramsey just cardiff.
    with smalling the club statement says they have agreed terms with him too.

    or am i reading it wrong?

  1061. goonermichael says:

    Are we back in for Smalling?

  1062. BOY BETTER KNOW says:

    i think smalling will be approaching the situation like where he will win more trophy’s.us or united

  1063. Samir says:

    Yes agreed terms, but as someone has said earlier nothing is signed!

  1064. A says:

    You’re reading it wrong mike…. The Fulham website say that the clubs have agreed terms of a deal, but it’s subject to Smalling agreeing terms, and medical

  1065. Samir says:

    That’s us the BBK?

  1066. mike__ says:

    who said he was a gooner and his family for that matter is there and interview?

  1067. BOY BETTER KNOW says:

    and how is that then samir

  1068. Samir says:

    goonermichael ;
    Yes we are, apparently a bid has been accepted!

  1069. A says:

    ulham can confirm that it has reached an agreement with Manchester United for the transfer of Central Defender Chris Smalling.

    Should a successful medical be completed and final terms agreed the player will join Sir Alex Ferguson’s team at the start of the 2010/2011 season

    Read more: http://www.fulhamfc.com/Club/News/NewsArticles/2010/January/SmallingStatement.aspx#ixzz0dkZ1WxNa

  1070. mike__ says:

    A – i mean on man u website not fulhams

  1071. Samir says:

    Mike, he is an Arsenal fan.
    Loads of forums are talking about it.

  1072. A says:

    Ah ok mike, that just says “United have agreed terms with Fulham to sign their England Under-21 international defender Chris Smalling.”

  1073. Samir says:

    BBK, We are an improving team whereas Man U are one which is going DOWN!!!

  1074. BigRaddy says:

    Samir. You are flying in the face of all the evidence, but fairplay to you, you sure are an optimist.

  1075. luke says:

    How much is Dzeko valued at anyone? Not that were signing him Im just curious

  1076. Samir says:

    Lmao BigRaddy;
    Knowing our luck SSN are probably bullshitting us with the offer accepted thingy???!!

    I’m sure Wenger has the balls now though, after hijacking Ramsey’s deal and all :D

  1077. Samir says:

    27M I think Luke?

  1078. A says:

    Dzeko said recently that £35mil is the price someone would have to pay for him luke

  1079. luke says:

    wow, not worth it IMO

  1080. Samir says:

    Ok 35M then :S

  1081. goonermichael says:

    Cardiff agreed terms with the mancs and everton for Ramsey before we bought him. I hope we snatch him even if it’s just to be spiteful

  1082. BOY BETTER KNOW says:

    Why would fulham risk playing him,if he’s having a medical tomorrow

  1083. David says:

    If we match the offer the player choses where he wants to go.

    They say he’s a gooner apparently.

    Its all down to matching the offer atm.

    Also all this talk about a defender. Where the feck is our Striker Arsene?

    A

    Since when does a player set the price for his own move?

  1084. goonermichael says:

    So A
    According to what you just posted he hasn’t agreed personal terms. I hope child molester neville shows him around the theatre of cunts

  1085. goonermichael says:

    Why would he choose to live in junky infested manchester when he could live in clean, crime free, glamourous London. It’s a no brainer

  1086. David says:

    Smalling is Left Footed.

    WTF.

  1087. goonermichael says:

    How are you BBK?
    Are we goimg to lose the next 4?

  1088. 78692 says:

    John Cross @ the Mirror seems to think he is….i know thats not definitive, but..

    http://twitter.com/Johncrossmirror

  1089. BigRaddy says:

    LOL GM

  1090. A says:

    Really David? I thought he’s right footed?

  1091. BOY BETTER KNOW says:

    i think so g.m

  1092. luke says:

    why are we in for him if he is left footed? Vermy to DM? WTF

  1093. goonermichael says:

    I think we may get a point against the bindippers :)

  1094. goonermichael says:

    Vermy’s going to barca with Cesc and Arshavin

  1095. Nick Eleftheriou says:

    Really impressed by that Smalling, that went wailing to my old man that we got to sign him! No lets hope we beat those Mancs to his signature, as i write propoganda TV are celebrating the fact that the great Red nose c**t had spotted his potential in one game, as if the deal is signed sealed and delivered!

  1096. BigRaddy says:

    How is diet going GM?

  1097. goonermichael says:

    Vidic is left isn’t he? I reckon he’s definitely off in the summer

  1098. A says:

    Vidic is right footed, pretty sure Smalling is too isn’t he?

  1099. goonermichael says:

    I’ve lost 4 kilos thanks Raddy. But more importantly my trousers aren’t tight anymore.

  1100. BOY BETTER KNOW says:

    hmm g.m you cold be right on that one actually

  1101. luke says:

    I hope nasri makes a comeback at united and scores two again. He needs a big game

  1102. BigRaddy says:

    Stevie G playing tonight. Already doing his share of fouling. I thought he was out for a few weeks…. well he would be if he played for us.

  1103. BigRaddy says:

    Well played GM. Very impressive.

  1104. goonermichael says:

    I’m not sure what 4 kilos is though :) I’ll google it

  1105. A says:

    i hope he does that tomorrow luke!

  1106. luke says:

    No, Nikki B’s turn tomorrow :)

  1107. Pedro says:

    Has he signed yet?

  1108. goonermichael says:

    Off to have supper see you all later

  1109. David says:

    I have to say from what ive seen the guy is impressive.

    Good in the air…Took the ball off crouch like he was receiving a pass.

  1110. BOY BETTER KNOW says:

    w.t.f sky reckon bolton have won the chase to sign l.j.w fuck offff

  1111. SUGA3 says:

    Fulham are all over Spuds so far…

  1112. BigRaddy says:

    There is some chap called Maxi playing on the wing for LFC. How many wingers are they going to sign?

  1113. SUGA3 says:

    and the cunts have scored…

  1114. BigRaddy says:

    Well done Suga ;-)

  1115. SUGA3 says:

    pretty poor from Schwarzer…

  1116. choy says:

    fack all defending.

  1117. SUGA3 says:

    Maxi is brilliant IMO…

    good buy…

  1118. BigRaddy says:

    If Wolves had a striker they would be 2 up by now. The Dippers are awful

  1119. gambon says:

    Any news on smalling??

    Any news on anything??

  1120. BOY BETTER KNOW says:

    who did crouch beat,smalling????

  1121. choy says:

    no BBK.. all the hard work was done by modric

  1122. A says:

    Smalling is playing for Fulham at Spuds gambon, won’t be any news until tomorrow I guess! I reckon it’s 90-10 that he’ll go to Utd though.

  1123. mike__ says:

    A – the thing is on man u site they say ‘Chris has agreed personal terms with the club and will join for the beginning of the 2010/2011 campaign.’

    thats why i say its different to the ramsey deal.

    i personally think someone in the sky sports truck when they were doing the report from OT was reading LG and seen all the cunt posts and said ‘lets feed them something to wind em up’ and look at us now lol.

  1124. Samir says:

    I’d say 55-45 to United … Lol

  1125. A says:

    Ah ok mike, I didn’t see that before mike.

    Fulham have announced since that statement though that personal terms aren’t agreed, and deal isn’t done, so still got hope!

  1126. gambon says:

    Id say about 98-2 in our favour! :-)

    I dont want another season of Silvestre!

  1127. Stu says:

    So whats the news on Smalling. United better either sign him quick or just let him join us because every hour that passes without it being confirmed either way is time lost that we could be doing deals for other players.

    I’ve had a shite day. Got my first proper haircut since about August and some polish bird was clearly confused and ruined my whole head.

    Back to Smalling. Is he right footed of left because if he is the latter then he is a pointless signing.

    We could go into next season with only Vermaelen as the reliable defender. I know Gallas is in the middle of negotiations but for now its just TV. Silv, SOl, Sendy are all gone come May and JD is hardly reliable in any sense.

  1128. Samir says:

    Skysports.com understands Bolton Wanderers are set to win the chase to sign Arsenal teenager Jack Wilshere on loan.

  1129. LuvDup Loner says:

    To all you rabid Wenger haters and doom mongers…

    If you feel the need to slate, berate and give our manager a load of abuse…?

    Please feel free….

    Sometimes the cunt needs a good effin bollocking!!!!

    Make the most of this Abuse Window… It will shut pretty sharpish…

    End of message…

  1130. goonermichael says:

    You shouldn’t go to mr toppers then Stu

  1131. mike__ says:

    so if man u want smalling that means they wont be after cahill then?

  1132. A says:

    Stu he’s currently playing at Spuds, so nothing’s gonna happen until tomorrow!

    He’s right footed

  1133. gambon says:

    Lol, nice to know Mangs signed our permission slip!

    CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT

  1134. goonermichael says:

    Piss off luvdup no ones slating anything. We’re all eing nice don’t spoil it

  1135. Samir says:

    He is bloody left footed :(

  1136. goonermichael says:

    he’s bloody ambidexterous

  1137. David says:

    Stu he’s Right footed.

    I jumped the gun there…I saw him use his left a couple times…and it looked like he was playing in the CD(L) position

  1138. Pat says:

    Smalling at fault for the goal? I read that on a United forum.

    I still hope we get him. He’s a gooner. WTF is he doing joining them cunts.

  1139. SUGA3 says:

    LUL,

    oh, don’t you worry – just warming up ;)

    expect the WAC machine at full swing when OGL get proven wrong…

    nah, just kidding – I am not one of the rabid haters, but I am just not blind to certain Frenchman’s shortcomings…

  1140. Samir says:

    A;
    He’s right footed?
    Some websites say he’s left footed?

  1141. Paulinho says:

    Not too disappointed with smalling.

    Maybe Wenger will buy in an urgent position – central midfield, and ‘pop’ Denilson Goodfellas style. Go for a drive.

  1142. LuvDup Loner says:

    We wanted Smalling, offered a certain amount, which was rejected by Fulham, the mancs offered more, that was accepted, so we just didnt bother to match it leaving United free to have him… Thats a sure fire way to sign players innit…?

  1143. David says:

    Now that Palace are in administration…should we bid for Moses?

  1144. Stu says:

    I dont know what Mr toppers is GM but i’ll remember for next time anyway.

    Its not fair. They distracted my focus with tits…i am only a man ffs!

  1145. Pedro says:

    Stu, you little bin dipper… that’s A’s line! haha!

    The mythical ‘you can’t have two left footers in defence’ line.

  1146. A says:

    No thanks David

  1147. SUGA3 says:

    LUL,

    if we wanted him, we should have come up with a better offer, simple as…

    maybe we didn’t want him enough…

  1148. Pat says:

    John Cross from the Mirror:

    My understanding that Smalling to #Manchester United is not done just yet. #Arsenal in there fighting. United have upper hand, but…

    @cool24 Thought I tweeted that United have upper hand and that Arsenal hoping for late twist Sorry for any confusion!Smalling is Arsenal fan

  1149. A says:

    Pedro – you notice what Wenger said when Sol signed??

    Sol is a right sided defender, and that’s what we need to provide cover for Gallas?

  1150. Stu says:

    I dont bin dip…FACT! But if he is a leftie then its pointless because there is no getting past Vermy..

  1151. LuvDup Loner says:

    Gambon & Suga3; :D

    So, Rio should be banned for our game then, if the FA do him for that elbow… Not even sure that is a good thing any more…?

    Fucking sign someone Wenger you dithery old twat…

    Oops, how did that slip out…?

  1152. Stu says:

    Sol cant be relied upon or expected to play 90minutes every 3 or so days should one of our first choice defenders get injured. And neither can Silvestre. We should have kept Senderos or at least gotten someone better than the two we have.

  1153. Pat says:

    Rumors also say Smalling doesn’t want to go to a London club as a show of respect for Fulham fans.

    Ramsey, a Manc fan, goes to Arsenal.

    Smalling, an Arsenal fan, goes to United.

  1154. Samir says:

    Hmmmm Pat.

  1155. BOY BETTER KNOW says:

    why would fulham play him if he is due for a medical

  1156. choy says:

    BBK.. he’s leaving in the summer.. not in this transfer window

  1157. Pat says:

    If he’s a true gooner, then moving to Arsenal should be an easy choice. With Gallas getting old, Smalling will know he has every chance to make that spot his own. That is, if he has the confidence to think that.

    Maybe we don’t have enough englishmen so he will feel awkward? Clutching at straws here.

  1158. LuvDup Loner says:

    Stu;

    You access to Sol’s fitness assessment over there fella??? Cool!

  1159. Stu says:

    False Pedro, i dont think you should play 2 lefties…or 2 righties either so hah!

  1160. choy says:

    We have a couple of young englishmen.. he would get along just fine!

  1161. Stu says:

    If that was a joke MG then it went straight over my head..well done.

  1162. BOY BETTER KNOW says:

    ah ok choy nice one for clearing that up,Wenger hates english people,if you are english wenger hates you,just remember that…….

  1163. Pedro says:

    haha, load of bollocks Stu!

    My internet connection is very slow… sorry for any double post confusion.

    We wouldn’t be bidding on a 20 year old left footer if that’s the case.

    I think when you get to the level of Arsenal, in the main, it doesn’t matter what foot the ball comes at you.

  1164. goonermichael says:

    I’m watching the spuds with a brilliant Arabic commentary

  1165. A says:

    Smalling is right footed Pedro….

    Wenger himself mentioned when we signed Sol that it meant we had cover for Gallas, which we didn’t before we signed him….

  1166. Pedro says:

    Pat, if he is a true Englishman… he wont want to move up north if he gets the chance. Especially if he’s from Maidstone… I used to work there… he probably needed counciling to move away from there!

  1167. mike__ says:

    well we will find out more in around 50 minutes i am sure Hodgson will get asked whats smallings situation after the game.

  1168. Stu says:

    Not to say that 2 defenders of the the same foot cant play together. I just prefer a leftie next to a rightie for balance. But if that defender is a rightie on the left then fine.

    Heres a wild one for you – righties are better with their left than lefties with their right. (usually).

  1169. gambon says:

    Cant we swap Theo for Smalling with UTD??

  1170. A says:

    “He has good experience and he can add that to the squad. We have plenty of competitions to go for and you want four centre-backs; Philippe Senderos is not fit and without him we have no right-sided centre-back if Gallas is injured.”

    Two left footers can’t, and wouldn’t play together out of choice….

  1171. Ray in SF says:

    Stu, they say the difference between a good haircut and a bad one is 4 to 6 weeks

    Why all this fuss about Smalling, if it wasn’t for the Mancs’ interest would we be so interested?

    and doesn’t it detract/distract from our need for a monster CF?

  1172. Pedro says:

    A, I’m getting upset at this uber nerd conversation we’re having.

    Stu, I’m disappointed in you…

  1173. goonermichael says:

    do they have to do the three legged race as well? 2 lefties wouldn’t work would it?

  1174. luke says:

    Smalling thing is a smokescreen for a striker!

  1175. gambon says:

    A, why dont you get a job with AQA, you find archived information quicker than……Dr Archive.

  1176. goonermichael says:

    Ray
    Whoever said that knows fuck all about hairdressing :)

  1177. LuvDup Loner says:

    I have never seen this Smalling fella play a single minute, have no idea if he is any good or not, but Wenger was waxin lyrical about him last week, being a bit smug about still being interested in him then as well… Like it was inevitable that we could get him, just a matter of time…

    Now United have simply come in, offered more cash and bang! He is off to Mancland (very nice town it is too, BTW!)

    And we apparantly are not in for a striker this window at all either…

    Scuse me while I busta bloodvessel

  1178. Ray in SF says:

    I hope you’re right Luke

  1179. Stu says:

    Campbell is right footed isnt he..can he not cover for Gallas. (even though he shouldnt be first cover).

  1180. mike__ says:

    i dont think we should be too confident of gallas being here next season though. i want him to sign so hope it gets announced, but if you look at it from his perspective he can either sign a good 2 year contract at arsenal or go on a free get more than 2 years and a final signing on fee….money wise he could end up doing better not signing for us.

    plus no almunia to worry about and have to give his death stares too lol

  1181. Ray in SF says:

    Maybe it takes 4 – 6 weeks to get over a bad haircut

  1182. Stu says:

    Ray, who are “they” and how do “they” know this? I dont have 4-6 weeks. (well i do but hate waiting).

    Pedro, sorry to disappoint you. I guess i’ll have to live with the shame..

  1183. goonermichael says:

    Bentley takes a good freekick for a cunt

  1184. Ray in SF says:

    Any news on Huntelaar?

    There were some more articles again today saying what a good fit it would be…six-month loan, etc.

    any thoughts on fit or likelyhood?

  1185. Ray in SF says:

    Stu it was meant to be a joke

    for most guys their hair grows out in that time ready for a better haircut

    got to learn when to use those creepy smiley faces

  1186. goonermichael says:

    Think I’ll switch to the bindippers game. Spuds look like they’ve won theirs

  1187. Ray in SF says:

    On the other hand I have so few hairs left they have names and it’s a personal loss when one of the dies

    like killing the family pet rabbit for supper…don’t give edible pets names

  1188. goonermichael says:

    oh it was deflected. I’ll take back what I said about bentley

  1189. LuvDup Loner says:

    The difference between a good haircut and a bad haircut is 4-6 pints…

  1190. luke says:

    Hey Ray, I live in SF too! The mission infact

  1191. goonermichael says:

    I’ve got some creepy music comung out of my speakers and I’ve closed every window. I’m in a fucking horror film.

  1192. A says:

    Ray Wenger said not after Huntelaar, and I wouldn’t want him! Want him to go to Everton so they give us Saha!

  1193. choy says:

    Haha.. good one Ray

  1194. gambon says:

    Gervinho for me!

  1195. LuvDup Loner says:

    Stu;

    Sol is cover for Gallas… He is fit as a butcher’s apron…. No probs with Sol fella, none at all…

  1196. GoonerT1m says:

    good one arsene, he looks amazing, good to see you sorting out the Defence….at last!!

  1197. A says:

    As a central striker gambon?!

  1198. A says:

    Only seen gervinho in the African Nations, but he looks far too small and lightweight to play centrally, he’d be a wide man in our system surely

  1199. SUGA3 says:

    Tim,

    ‘ze defence eez overrated’

    though U knew…

  1200. gambon says:

    No, he can certainly play there, but more as a right sided to support Bendtner now, and RVP when hes back.

    If we sign a central striker then it would have to be someone at the start of their career, or end of, as they would immediately be on the bench when RVP came back…ie Saha.

  1201. LuvDup Loner says:

    Soooo, Fulham’s dismal away record continues…

  1202. Pat says:

    Does Smalling have pace? Fulham’s style of play makes it impossible to see.

  1203. El Tel says:

    Gallas, right footed played left side till this season. Overmars,Pires right footed played up left side. TH14 played everywhere.

    WTF does being one footed matter. Watched that Ozil guy the other night for Bremen he is very left footed but played mainly down right side V BM.

  1204. A says:

    I dunno gambon, I wouldn’t rule out someone in their prime, like Cole. Would just mean more rotation when VP is back, and potentially someone who could play in the wide roles too, as VP and Bendy could do. Currently our greatest need is someone who would be primarily a central forward though, got wide men galore!

  1205. goonermichael says:

    That aquilani was a great buy for 20 million

  1206. A says:

    El Tel in defence it matters, which is why you never have a central defensive pairing with two left footed players. In attack it doesn’t matter though, certainly nowhere near as much.

  1207. gambon says:

    A

    The thing is if we sign a central striker in his prime is Bendtner really gonna play when everyones fit?

    He would carry the same rank in the squad as Traore.

    If we sign a wide player we would have Rosicky, Arshavin, Walcott and new guy as our 4 wide forwards. This is assuming Nasri is gonna be a CM long term.

    Mind you that leave Eduardo with no squad place, so come to think of it, unless he’s lost faith in Eduardo, we wont be signing any striker.

  1208. Ray in SF says:

    A, regardless of who is better, it looks like Huntelaar is available and he could do a useful job for us

    I would rather try Huntelaar a see if he works out than give a Gallic shrug and say

    “Allors, there is nobody who iz better that wesalready ave!!”

  1209. El Tel says:

    Chamach or whatever his name is will be the one. He is playing poker to get him cheap as usual and it will be another Arshavin scenario.

    Hope it doesn’t snow on the big day as that will mean a longer wait.

  1210. Pat says:

    Ozil is the closest thing to Fabregas there is. Identical copy, but worse. Class player nonetheless.

  1211. Maksud says:

    Lol liverpool

  1212. goonermichael says:

    bindippers have drawn

  1213. gambon says:

    Ozil is the best player in Germany, true class.

  1214. El Tel says:

    A

    I acceept that opinion but its like saying all 6 footers are CBs when picking the school team, a very English way of thinking.

    Was not the Sol Toure partnership two right footers.

    Keown, Big Tone and Bouldy I believe were also Right footers.

  1215. A says:

    gambon I dunno about that, Bendtner would be on par with anyone brought in, would be rotated, or one of them played wide, and them swapping. You missed out Vela too. That would be Arshavin, Eduardo, Vela, Theo Rosicky, Nasri as wide forwards!

    Ray I’d rather Saha, Huntelaar would be better than noone, but there would be someone better than Huntelaar out there, surely.

  1216. Ray in SF says:

    and I say that as someone who likes AW

    I guess I’m an AKE (with the E standing for enough) generally spot on but with occasional room for improvement…like this transfer window

  1217. iqwoo says:

    Do you guys rate Babel ?

  1218. LuvDup Loner says:

    El Tel;

    I think Chamakh will sign (for us, or elsewhere) for free in the summer…

    I dont rate Huntelaar, but if it was a choice between him now for 6 months, or no one, then I’d give the lanky slow as fook misfit a punt…

  1219. A says:

    Yeah El Tel, you can have two right footers, absolutely you can, not two left footers.

  1220. Pat says:

    Ozil > Diego

  1221. El Tel says:

    Pat, Gambon

    I usually work nights but am off at the moment. Saw the Bremen v Bayern Match was on and intended to watch a couple of minutes. There was only about 30 mins left so I watched it.

    The commentators were oozing when Ozil was on the ball and I must say he looks true quality.

  1222. gambon says:

    A

    Ive always said id prefer a smaller, but higher quality squad.

    We dont really need 6 wide forwards. I wouldnt be in the least surprised if one of Vela & Eduardo left at the end of the season.

    Gotta try & fit hazard in there as well.

  1223. gambon says:

    Ive said a few times, Ozil is the only player at the mo that could replace Cesc if he left.

  1224. Samir says:

    Didn’t Chamakh say he will reveal his decision by the end of January?
    We must have offered him a pre contract then…

  1225. Ray in SF says:

    After the CL game with pool (yes that game) one reviewer described Babel as have speed, power and a surprising lack of balance in the 18-yard box

  1226. goonermichael says:

    why 2 right footers but not left footers?

  1227. El Tel says:

    Luvd Up.

    I have always wanted the Hunter even before he wwent to Madrid as I love the Ajax system.

    Forget the speed thing this guy hits the net, there are possibly better forrwards but he is gettable.

    A. I think you don’t like lefties mate as that makees no sense that 2 righties are ok but not lefties.

  1228. LuvDup Loner says:

    Liverpool drew with the mighty Wolverines then? Ha!

  1229. gambon says:

    So Jack is going to Bolton.

    Could do him the world of good, being beasted in training will mean he adapts to the PL quicker than anywhere else id imagine!

  1230. A says:

    I’d be absolutely shocked if Vela left gambon. Eduardo it depends if he re-finds his shooting boots between now and the end of the season.

  1231. iqwoo says:

    I feel that we need a pacey forward instead of a tall lanky one. In recent history, we always had one quick one (Thierry or Wright)and one tall striker beside em.

  1232. Stu says:

    Because right footed players arent afraid to use their left foots. shazam! :shick:

  1233. ethangunner says:

    A

    Ray I’d rather Saha,
    —————————-

    WHAT ?????????????
    i said i like saha and you said ID PREFER CARLTON COLE ANY DAY OVER SAHA !

    FUCKKKK A ! your worse than a woman !
    every 2 seconds the story changes with you !

  1234. El Tel says:

    Tv will be able to tell Wenger eveerything about The Hunter.

    I think Chamakh is a done deal with the player but we have upset, FA cupped (Disrespected) the Club.

  1235. A says:

    lol nothing to do with not liking lefties El Tel!

    Most footballers are right footed

    Right footed players have an advantage against left footed defenders.

    One left footed defender gives you balance, two leaves you very unbalanced, which is why you NEVER have a central defensive partnership with two left footers.

    Right footed central defenders can play on the left side, left footed central defenders can’t play on the right side.

  1236. Samir says:

    Anyone know if Roy Hodgson has said anything about Smalling after the math?

  1237. Samir says:

    match***

  1238. El Tel says:

    Hi Ethan.

    Fuck having another Manc reject at our beloved Club. Another injury prone one at that.

  1239. Micky Did It 89 says:

    Evening. Just popped in to see if Smalling, Shmallin has signed. One thought…AW often buys someone who ends up playing somewhere else. Smallthing DM material? Dunno, never heard of the bloke till today.

  1240. Stu says:

    Proof that righties are more adaptable – Lots of right footed left backs, very few if any at all left footed rightbacks (although i do remember Lopez playing right back against Liverpool for Atletico in the CL). Exception to every rule..duh!

  1241. Pat says:

    Someone tell us what Hodgson says in his interview

  1242. A says:

    huh ethan??

    I’d be happy with either, been saying I want us to sign Saha for ages though!

  1243. ethangunner says:

    you hooked onto the carton cole rumor , stifled everyone elses selections , telling us NO carton cole is more suited .. blah blah blah .. then

    3 weeks later you like my initial pick NOW , when you initially condemned me for saying it !

    fuck me A !

    phuck! i take that back :) in 2 weeks time you just might want too :)

  1244. El Tel says:

    A.

    I am rather confused by this left footer thing, maybe its because I am left handed.

    Seriously though pal that doesn’t make sense to me, do you have scientific proof to back up your notions?

  1245. Pat says:

    Stu, Ferraira(chelsea) and Lahm

  1246. gambon says:

    Surely a right footer prefers playing against a left footer, logically that makes sense.

    So lefties should find it eaier against righties.

    Sign Vertonghen and get the 2 belgians together, he can play LB and DM as well.

  1247. Stu says:

    Both of them are right footed Pat…or is that your point?

  1248. A says:

    No El Tel, it isn’t scientific, it’s football theory!

    It’s why you get more left footed players who are attacking, than defensive. Also why you don’t have many left footed centre backs, and certainly never a central defensive partnership with two lefties….

    ethan I think you’ve got yourself confused, been saying for a good while that I’d love us to sign Saha!!

  1249. El Tel says:

    Nutty started playing for us at right back although it was as cover at the time, did ok if my memory was right.

  1250. ethangunner says:

    OH please A !

    come on !
    your usually bursting with intelligence ..

    im dumb founded !

  1251. gambon says:

    Lahm is right footed.

  1252. Samir says:

    Ok I think Smalling is Man United’s.

    Manchester United have won the race to sign highly-rated central defender Chris Smalling from Fulham.

    The England U21 international will join the Premier League champions in the summer after finalising the deal on Tuesday.

    The move completes an astounding rise to prominence for Smalling, who has made just nine first-team appearances for the Cottagers since signing from non-league Maidstone two years ago.

    London rivals Arsenal had also shown an interest in the Greenwich-born 20-year-old, however Sir Alex Ferguson, who lost out to the Gunners in the race to sign Wales star Aaron Ramsey in 2008, has moved quickest to secure his signature.

    “It just looks like Manchester United offered more money than us,” said Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger.

    United are refusing to state how long Smalling, who will complete the remainder of the season at Fulham, has signed his contract for.

  1253. gambon says:

    To be fair to A, he has had Saha posters on his BR wall since Jan 1st

  1254. El Tel says:

    If the Mancs are signing the unknown Fulham kid lets make an offer for Vidic. OOPs left footed.

  1255. A says:

    A Says:
    January 3, 2010 at 01:58

    He’s also one of the top scorers in the prem this season

    Got the all round game to play in our system as the central striker

    Short-term, before Chamakh arrives in the summer.

    I’d be happy if we signed him

  1256. Stu says:

    Vidic is right footed.

  1257. Pat says:

    Never mind

  1258. A says:

    Currently we have four centre backs, neither Vermaelen nor Silvestre could play right side, which is one reason we signed Sol with Senderos off, because if Gallas was out we wouldn’t have anyone who could play right side.

  1259. goonermichael says:

    Samir
    They can’t say how long he’s signed his contract for because he hasn’t signed it yet

  1260. A says:

    Samir that story means absolutely nothing, it’s just hashed up from the stuff that happened earlier

  1261. El Tel says:

    Samir.

    Those cheating Manc cunts have cloned Rio the elbow Ferdinand.

    He looks like a younger veersion and was also from Greenwich.

    How far will they go for World domination?

  1262. Samir says:

    Arsene Wenger, though, maintains until the ink is dry, no deal can be considered done.

    The Arsenal manager said: ‘It just looks like Manchester United offered more money than us, but as long as the player has not signed anywhere it is not the end of it. Let’s see what happens there.

    ‘We will not come out on what we are doing exactly. It has come out [elsewhere], but that does not mean it is true.

    ‘If we have anything more to tell you we will let you know.’

    Wenger, however, rejected suggestions he was set to move for Dutch forward Klaas-Jan Huntelaar.

    He said: ‘We are not after any striker at the moment.’

    The Gunners boss is, though, ready to let teenage midfielder Jack Wilshere go out on loan to get some regular first-team football.

    ‘We have interests now from a few Premier League teams, it will be decided today or tomorrow,’ Wenger said. Burnley is an opportunity.

    ‘At the end of the day, Wilshere will have his word to say, because he needs to decide where he likes to go.’

  1263. El Tel says:

    Stu,

    more confused as Vidic plays left side I think?

  1264. Pedro says:

    So United were interested in him before us!

    Great…

  1265. Samir says:

    So Wenger says Smalling deal is not over and we are NOT after a striker ATM….

  1266. A says:

    Yeah he does El Tel. You get alot of right footed left sided centre backs, but no left footed right sided ones.

  1267. SUGA3 says:

    iqwoo,

    I do – shame about that fat fuck ruining his career…

  1268. LuvDup Loner says:

    Come on everyone… Repeat after me;

    Smalling boomby yay
    Smalling boomby yay
    Smalling boomby yay
    Smalling boomby yay…

    Thats bound to work!

  1269. Pedro says:

    He has agreed terms… just the medical to go according to Hodgson… we didn’t bid.

  1270. Alex says:

    Roy Hodgson just confirmed in interview Smalling to have a medical at United tomorrow and know nothing about Arsenals offer.

    So looks like he’s gone.

  1271. A says:

    Samir those quotes were from the press conferences this lunchtime.

    He also said “at the moment” regarding a striker, we’ll still get someone, I have faith!

  1272. ethangunner says:

    El Tel

    you best just quit right now trying to work out
    where A comes up with his notions !

    WHY El tel who are we signing now ?
    oh you mean saha !

    yes wenger’s weakness is old injury prone french player has beens, who he used to like several years ago .. when he couldn’t afford them :)

    His form for everton is very similar to anelkas really . i think from the EPL leaders board tallys
    standpoint it makes sense .

    cesc is our highest scorer and i knew this would happen going into the season so light on with no credible strikers !

    wenger will make the same mistake by not strengthening and we will all say i told you so again . im sick of this merry – go – round .

    A
    i haven’t got myself confused at all !

  1273. Stu says:

    True El Tel but he is capable with either foot so can easily play left side.

  1274. A says:

    That sucks, still time though! 99% gone I guess

  1275. Samir says:

    OMG so SSN were bullshitting us!!
    CUNTS!!!

    Unless Hodgson suffers memory loss?

  1276. Pat says:

    We’ve been linked with Smalling for awhile and the day the United rumours pop up, its a done deal.

  1277. A says:

    ethan I just quoted myself saying we should sign Saha on 3rd January….

  1278. Pedro says:

    Maybe we’re bringing TA6 out of retirement…

  1279. Jaguar says:

    A Says:
    January 26, 2010 at 22:02

    A Says:
    January 3, 2010 at 01:58

    He’s also one of the top scorers in the prem this season

    Got the all round game to play in our system as the central striker

    Short-term, before Chamakh arrives in the summer.

    I’d be happy if we signed him
    ——————————————————–
    A ,talking like Arsene has told him that Chamakh will sign for us in the summer.

  1280. goonermichael says:

    He’s too young Pedro :)

  1281. Pedro says:

    Pat, Roy said he’d known about there interest for a while

  1282. Pat says:

    He doesn’t know anything about Arsenal offer?

    There is something sketchy here. Wenger made it seem like we bid, 100%.

    Cunts probably never told Smalling about our interest!

  1283. goonermichael says:

    A is Arsene Jaguar. Have you noticed how he’s never on when Wehger does a press conference? It’s like Michael and latoya

  1284. gambon says:

    So what the fuck was that about with Arsene earlier?!

    Why does he always hint that he’s making moves when he’s not??!!?

  1285. mike__ says:

    so last week hodgson said he didnt know anything about arsenal bidding for smalling, then you see what wenger said today then just now hodgson says again he knows nothing of arsenal bidding…..so if arsenal did bid if we are to belive they did then maybe their offer was so low that fulhams exec didnt even mention it to roy…

  1286. Stu says:

    hmmmm GM, you might be onto something there. A doesnt comment during matches either..

  1287. LuvDup Loner says:

    I have had a patented, complete about turn and am convinced we will sign Smalling, Shaha and Flamini now…

    Ahhhhh… All is well, please disregard my earlier Wenger is a cunt remarks! (Sorry Gambon, Suga3!!)

    8D

  1288. Jaguar says:

    I think A is more sensible than Arsene,GM.He acknowledges that there is a need for strengthening,which our ‘beloved’ manager Mr.Wenger has never done.

  1289. Pat says:

    Pedro, we were after him when he was with that shit team according to someone in the media. Us, Chelsea, and someone else, but he chose Fulham.

    Smalling is a dumb cunt or United are losing a CB. He’s not better than Rio, Vidic, or Evans.

    Either way, Smalling will always look better on a very defensive Fulham team than for United. Hope he fails miserably tbh

  1290. gambon says:

    We are probably after Christophe Smallingne, a cameroonian playing at Rennes…12 years old!

  1291. gambon says:

    That will give them a great foursome of CBs though!

  1292. choy says:

    We must’ve offered them 1 mill or so!

  1293. LuvDup Loner says:

    Stu;

    I think GM meant that Jaguar is Arsene…

    And I retract my earlier retraction about Wenger….!!!

  1294. Pat says:

    gambon, great? No one really knows about this Smalling fellow.

  1295. gambon says:

    Mang

    Once youre on the darkside its impossible to turn back.

  1296. SUGA3 says:

    LUL,

    I am not one of the WACs ;)

    no, he’s not a cunt, just lost his way…

  1297. LuvDup Loner says:

    Thing is, this wasnt your usual tabloid bullshit, where some lazy hack links us with some dodgy player just to fill a few inches in a rag…

    This was Wenger saying, to the media he wanted the player and felt confident we would sign him…

    Either Smalling has been offered more cash and has reneged on a deal (Flamini styleee), or we just took the piss and assumed he was in the bag, when that was just not the case…

    If he turns out to be a top player, then FFS, I do not wanna hear any chat about how we were close to signing him…

    Wanky wank wank…

  1298. pawel says:

    evening grovers!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr5y0mUsyLM

    hope this will cheer you guys up, as it seems Boss failed to ink the smalling guy.

    keep up the good job, i’m a great fan of the LG community

    btw, hope we thrash villa tomorrow!

  1299. Pat says:

    Jay, Rio will play against us cause the FA is a fucking joke.

    If he pleads guilty, he misses the game against us.

    If he appeals it, no action will be taken until after the game against us. Fucking ridiculous.

    SAF will force him to appeal. He’ll get punished either way

  1300. Jaguar says:

    Wenger is NOT a cunt.He is a selectively blind manager,obsessed with francophonic people and fooling fans.

  1301. Pat says:

    I think sky might be making abit of mischief. Smallings mum seems to think he is a United player and says that his brother is ecstatic as he is a united fan. Although, wenger is a sneaky one.

    from Vital Fulham comments

  1302. LuvDup Loner says:

    Gambon;

    I am trying to claw my way out of the inky black abyss!! :wink:

  1303. Stu says:

    How are our players doing with injuries.

    How close to injury is Gallas.
    What was wrong with Bendtner to keep him out so long and can he start or will he be on the bench against Villa.
    Surely Arshavins foot injury wouldnt have healed because he came on against Stoke and…..thats it right?

  1304. LuvDup Loner says:

    Pat;

    Even if he appeals, it has to be sorted before the weekend fella… Thats how it works nowadays… And a bloody good job too…

  1305. goonermichael says:

    If Ferdinand appeals he’ll play the game against city and still miss our game. He’ll also miss their villa game

  1306. Stu says:

    Its not like Ferdinand is going to be missed anyway because he has either been injured or shit all season.

  1307. Pat says:

    Really? The United fans seem to think he’ll still play against us. The deadline to appeal is Thursday. Doesn’t that take some time?

  1308. choy says:

    If he appeals he misses 4 games.

  1309. LuvDup Loner says:

    I demand confirmation, one way or the t’other!!!

  1310. Stu says:

    ANyone have a clip of the Ferdinand incident? Still havent seen it.

  1311. reggie 57 says:

    Another one bites the dust!!

  1312. Pat says:

    Nasri and Nick on the bench against Villa

  1313. reggie 57 says:

    Lets face it bostick pockets is getting no-one in!!

  1314. reggie 57 says:

    Super nick is gonna fire us to glory!!

  1315. reggie 57 says:

    We dont need any new signings !!

  1316. Jay says:

    i’ll be interested to see how it pans out. Im glad liverpool drawed – the more points they still drop the better, esp in the build up to our game, iwant them without any confidence.

  1317. reggie 57 says:

    He has totally lost the plot,good-night!!

  1318. LuvDup Loner says:

    Pat;

    The rules were changed some time ago…. It has to be sorted in a week, so, if the deadline is Thursday, it will be done Thursday or Friday…

    But as Stu says, it will hardly matter as Rio has been crocked or bollocks!

  1319. YON says:

    If Alex Song and Abou Diaby can go from a “stupid Gorrilla” and “Abou Diabolical” to… “Welcome back Song from the ANC” and “I love Diaby” …… THEN FUCKING Bendtner can be the new Pele.

  1320. Jay says:

    there’s no doubting we need 1 striker as cover, cos bendtner will get injured again –
    yet he refuses to even think of a loan deal with huntelaar. ffs – having some1 there is better than not, why cant he see that?

  1321. Pat says:

    Has Red Nose ever signed a bad defender??

  1322. Stu says:

    Hahaha YON< who called Song a "stupid Gorilla". C'mon, be honest, it was you wasnt it..

  1323. jlp says:

    Evening all,
    The hearing,if and when Rio appeals,takes place Thursday. They may reduce the ban to a game but from what I saw of it,nothing less then the 3 given suits the crime.
    If only they banned cheating cunts for being butt fucking ugly.

  1324. LuvDup Loner says:

    Looks like I will be firing off yet another literary hand grenade addressed to Mr Wenger, care of Highbury Ivory Towers London, in the morning, signed Disgusted of Mancland…

    reggie reg! I think you should follow suit too fella!! Nite mate!

  1325. Jaguar says:

    Good that Pool has lost points.Less competition for us in our race for the fourth spot.

  1326. SUGA3 says:

    ‘We did not lack experience at Stoke’

    ‘If I don’t find better than what we have, then I will not buy’

    You have to be fucking kidding me – come up with something new…

  1327. choy says:

    Where’s David..

    Nikki B is back :)

  1328. Stu says:

    Thanks Choy. The worst thing about that clip wasnt the punch, or the ref being a twat, it was that atrocious attempt as a long pass from McShane. There are 12year olds who play football down the road who can pass better than that. Awful..just awful

  1329. choy says:

    And fagan got a yellow for that :lol: haha..

  1330. LuvDup Loner says:

    Pat;

    That article says £12 million FFS! If that is true then fuck that man! I am glad we didnt spend that on an unproven 20 year old defender! That is crackers and smacks of shear desperation if you ask moi…

  1331. finestcuts says:

    Manyoo have paid the 5 million “I want him price” putting a £12m deal on the table. Rest Assured, there is no hope we will get Smalling, goodnight.

  1332. Pat says:

    Smalling was caught ball watching for Crouch’s goal today. Wasn’t impressed tbh. Its easy to defend a deep line. Senderos is bloody stellar at doing that.

  1333. LuvDup Loner says:

    Hodgson says he is not aware of an Arsenal bid, not that we did not make one, just he aint the fella who would know that kinda thang…

    I still do not think it is a done deal…

  1334. Jaguar says:

    LuvDup Loner Says:
    January 26, 2010 at 23:00

    Pat;

    That article says £12 million FFS! If that is true then fuck that man! I am glad we didnt spend that on an unproven 20 year old defender! That is crackers and smacks of shear desperation if you ask moi…

    ————————————————
    Wouldnt you be happy,if we rather place a £8m bid on a 14 year old toddler from Africa?

  1335. LuvDup Loner says:

    Pat; If Wenger rated him but failed to get him, due to not offering enough, then that is poor, IMO… If United just offered stoopid money out of a desperate need for new CBs for next season too!!!??? Then they are welcome to him…

    We can definitely do better for next season and we will have the likes of Nordveit and Bartley a year older and wiser then anyways…

  1336. LuvDup Loner says:

    Jaguar;

    No, that is just the usual unhinged nonsense one expects from you fella! £7 million is a lot of money for Smalling, £12m is crackers, surely you, of all people can relate to crackers? :roll:

  1337. finestcuts says:

    12 mill for Smalling is Manyoo prices. Ferguson is a Harrods type shopper, likes to overspend just to show off……..you and I would call it getting ripped off but he’s got money to burn and he gets what he wants, overpay and you can get whatever you want, one of the benefits of being rich.
    Wenger likes to haggle at the till when he goes to Poundstretcher.

  1338. Pat says:

    Kjaer’s buy out clause is something around 8 million. I rather we get him ffs.

    He’s one of the best CB’s in Serie A. Smalling isn’t even a starter for Fulham!

  1339. Jaguar says:

    Wenger goes to poundstretcher and poundland,but bastard demands Harrods prices for his wages.What a mug!

  1340. gambon says:

    Mang

    But its ok for a 16 year old RW/CF whos never played in the prem??

  1341. Jaguar says:

    Is Kjaer French and crocked,Pat?I was just weighing up the possibilities of a transfer?

  1342. LuvDup Loner says:

    finest;

    But, United aont loaded, they are scrimping and cutting back all over the place at Old Trafford… £12 million is as much of a risk for them as it would be for us…

    Smacks of desperation, if true…

  1343. Keyser says:

    Did we actually pay 12 million for Walcott ?!

  1344. Jaguar says:

    We paid £5m (which could rise upto 12m) for Walcott,Keyser.

  1345. gambon says:

    Paid £9.1m, was supposed to rise to £12m but So’ton were in trouble.

  1346. SUGA3 says:

    Keyser,

    we paid £9M for his, as Saints were skint and accepted less cash to get in earlier…

    money well spent…

  1347. LuvDup Loner says:

    gambon;

    Come on man, you know there’s a huge difference with attack minded players… When a topm talent comes up and attracts loads of attention… Attackers and strikers fetch far more, look at babel FFS! He was £12m!

    An untried 20 year olod CB with hardly any top flight experience???

    You are jjust making mischief now! :)

  1348. SUGA3 says:

    *get it earlier

  1349. Keyser says:

    Heh, so 5 or 9.1 ? and why would we be more willing to take another risk on a young player ?!

  1350. Zorr0 says:

    lol, Jimbo just got his arse kicked over at YoungGuns!
    They don’t appear to appreciate his comments on AW and Denilson!

  1351. LuvDup Loner says:

    Its like us paying £12 million for Senderos…

  1352. Zorr0 says:

    It gets better, there was a Haiti benefit all star game in Lisbon tonight, and one of the keepers is called Quim! Love it!

  1353. SUGA3 says:

    Keyser,

    would you deny that we need reinforcements?

    fucking penniless Bindippers have bought Rodriguez and are reportedly bidding for Jones – we could do well with both…

    No. More. Fucking. Kids.

  1354. Keyser says:

    Zorr0 – Did he start going on about white elephants and non-sequitors, it could be a different Jimbo, he seemed to be on here earlier aswell..

    Could have been a Spurs supporter.

  1355. LuvDup Loner says:

    Just seen Rio’s forearm smash on that Hull twat…

    I doubt he will even bother to contest it, he is bang to rights! He wont be at the Grove sunday…

  1356. Zorr0 says:

    ManGoo, how’s it hanging? Still not back oop north?

    So is Rio gonna miss Sunday?

  1357. Stu says:

    They got Maxi on a free SUGA. And they are apparently after Jovanovic or Standard Liege on a free this summer. Whats with those fuckers and free players. Aurelio and Degan were free too and Voronin but he was shit.

  1358. SUGA3 says:

    Stu,

    fair enough, but why didn’t we get Maxi on a free then?

  1359. LuvDup Loner says:

    Why do we need Maxi??? Possible Jones, although his quality aint top class, IMO…

  1360. SUGA3 says:

    oh, I know: ‘he is no better than what we already have’

    this is beyond fucking joke…

  1361. Pat says:

    Jaguar, when was the last time we signed a french crock?

  1362. Keyser says:

    Suga3 – No matter what I say, how well I put, what argument I stake, you’re just going to go off on one, what’s the point.

    I wouldn’t mind players coming in, but I wouldn’t want half the names people put forward, I wouldn’t want Rodriguez and Kenweyne seems like a poorer version of Adebayor, so I’m not too bothered about those.

    How much did they spend on Maxi ? I want players that will benefit as much as the likes of Arshavin or Vermaelen, not bought for the sake of it.

  1363. Jaguar says:

    I am pretty sure that we got Theo for an initial fee of 9m.

  1364. Pat says:

    Vermalen, SIlvestre, Arshavin, Nasri, Ramsey, Sagna, Diarra, Eduardo

    1 French crock in there that we paid pennies for

  1365. LuvDup Loner says:

    Hey oop Zorr0!!! Not back up in Mancland yet fella… Off to Villa tomorrow night, on the way though!!!

  1366. Keyser says:

    Suga3 – So you’d want us to buy Maxi ? Where would he fit in ?!

  1367. gambon says:

    Mang

    Wenger certainly only likes spending money on attackers, but the more succesful managers (Fergie, Mourinho) tend to go for expensive defenders as well.

  1368. SUGA3 says:

    LUL,

    to show Walcott how to play on the right?

    we don’t need Maxi to do that, fucking Sidibe is enough :lol:

  1369. Zorr0 says:

    Keyser, nah, he was slating Denilson and specifically Arse&Nose’s attempts to defend him with stats! Some one called him a ‘known troll!’ lol.

  1370. Jaguar says:

    Pat Says:
    January 26, 2010 at 23:27

    Jaguar, when was the last time we signed a french crock?
    ———————————————————-

    Pennies or not,Shitvestre was not our priority.He was signed only because he was a francophonic crock.

  1371. LuvDup Loner says:

    Suga3; Should we sign every player you have seen a few times and quite like then???

    :roll:

  1372. Stu says:

    Well technically Maxi is only on loan there but his contract expires in the summer, like the Senderos deal.

  1373. SUGA3 says:

    Keyser,

    I don’t want to go into a slanging fest, but saying that you won’t even bother shows that your arguments are just piss weak ;)

    Kenwyne a poor version of Ade? please…

    who would you like to see then?

  1374. SUGA3 says:

    LUL,

    probably a better idea than signing no one?

  1375. gambon says:

    Maxi is a class player no doubt.

  1376. Zorr0 says:

    No Suga, it just shows that maybe you have worn him down with your refusal to budge!

  1377. LuvDup Loner says:

    Gambon;

    Mourinho just spends mate, pure and simple… Pkus he is a cunt…

    But I take your point, although Sagna, Vermilli and Sol (signing on fee and wages) were not exactly cheap, nor was Richard Wright either, but I take your point again…

  1378. Stu says:

    Maxi had apparently been out of favour there all season. I mean, how highly could Atletico rate him if they let him go on loan with them already having a pretty light squad.

    Reyes plays right wing now ffs!

  1379. LuvDup Loner says:

    Oh Arsene who art in Higbury, please sign a player, any player, even in positions we do not need, just to make our deer depressed brethren Suga3 feel complete and conteneted!!!

    Maxi is a shadow of the player he was, and we do not need him, but fuck me! Lets sign him anyways…

  1380. Pat says:

    Reyes replaced Maxi gambon!!

    Although I always rated Reyes. Never understood why many said he was a flop. Absolutely brilliant footballer.

  1381. SUGA3 says:

    Zorr0,

    no matter what I say, Wenger apologists will come up with ‘logical’ arguments that just simply don’t stick in the real world:

    - we haven’t won squat for 4 years and counting
    - OGL continues with selecting the trophies to treat seriously
    - despite damning evidence showing that some players are not good enough, OGL sacrifices chances of winning ‘selected’ trophies on the altar of their development
    - we have spent £0 on proven quality and a good few mil of fucking kids

    these are the facts: deal with it…

  1382. Zorr0 says:

    Loner, Barton might be available, will he do a job?

  1383. LuvDup Loner says:

    Keyser has a point, you just seem to be waffling on about us signing any fucker, just for the sake of it… Maxi??? Fuck off!

    Kenwynne Jones aint a poor Ade, nope, he is a piss poor Ade!

  1384. SUGA3 says:

    *on fucking kids

  1385. Keyser says:

    I’m just going to start numbering people David, 1,2,3…

  1386. Jaguar says:

    Some idiots here will be supporting Real Madrid next season,after Mr.Wenger take charge of Madrid next season(albeit for six months).

  1387. Pat says:

    SUGA, 0 on quality? We spent 39 million in a year on quality!!

  1388. Zorr0 says:

    lol Suga Suga Suga. Why can you not just accept that you have your opinion and others like Keyser have theirs and you are both entitled to believe what you want.

    We spend so much time going round and round in circles on this site sometimes.

  1389. SUGA3 says:

    Zorr0, LUL:

    yeah, that’s mature – how about some ‘better’ ideas?

    we don’t need superstars, we need squad players – Jones would be a superb competition for B52…

    fair enough, Maxi is not the player he once was, but don’t forget that we have Silvestre on our books :lol:

  1390. SUGA3 says:

    Keyser,

    there you go – yawn…

    Pat,

    I am talking THIS transfer window – does that compute?

  1391. LuvDup Loner says:

    Zorr0; I was thinking of Nicky Butt myself…

    Oh Suga3! You can tell when you have lost the plot when you trot out the good old fall back Wenger apologist bollocks!

    Dont throw the toys out of the pram…!

  1392. Keyser says:

    Suga3 – Why Maxi ? and where would he fit in ?!

  1393. gambon says:

    Lol, could you imagine wenger at Madrid;

    Perez; “Arsene, give me your list and i will sign the galacticos”

    Wenger; “I dont want new players. Raul, Benzema & Alonso are coming back from injuries, theyre like new signings”

    Perez; “Yes but Mr Wenger, we are Madrid, we bring the world greatest players to the worlds greatest club”

    Wenger; “Well, i do know of some talented 15 year olds in Gabon”

    REAL MADRID SACK MANAGER

  1394. Zorr0 says:

    Jaguar, don’t be a dick!

  1395. Jaguar says:

    No chances for Jones,he speaks good English,and is not crocked and francophonic.Bastard wouldnt go for such players.

  1396. Zorr0 says:

    Have I missed something; What the fuck is LUL????

  1397. Keyser says:

    gambon – So you think Real Madrid would go to all that trouble to get Wenger at their club, only to give him no power at all ?!

    I feel sorry for Pelligrini at times, almost every shot of him he looks a year older and he usually has his face cupped in his hands, Real Madrid don’t really do managers, they want puppets.

  1398. SUGA3 says:

    Keyser – that’s just an example, not something to cling on…

    however, he would be a better option than useless Walnutt…

    LUL,

    sorry ;) tried not to use the ‘AKB’ (which I think is the far extreme, btw)

    and what about the rest of my post you’re referring to, which represents facts, not my opinions?

  1399. Pat says:

    The best managers usually avoid madrid.

  1400. Zorr0 says:

    Jag, you calling our manager a tsicaR???

  1401. gambon says:

    Keyser,

    Chill out.

  1402. SUGA3 says:

    LuvdUpLoner?

  1403. Keyser says:

    Suga3 – He’s started 5 games all season.

    Have you actually thought this through ? Why would Maxi be a better option ?! Athletico let him leave on a free ?!

  1404. LuvDup Loner says:

    Suga3;

    I am not against us signing players… Jeeez! I have been goin on about little else since Jan 1st really! As we all have to 1 extent or another…

    I just do not get this desire to sign anyone, regardless of the need, quality, availability etc…?

    Silvestre aint my favourite player ever, but he is happy to sit on the bench and play when needed and despite being scapegoated vs WHam in the FA cup, he has done OK… Sol came in and played effin well, IMO…

    So, if we could get an experienced striker in that mould, then I would be well happy…

    Better still, a top class striker instead, but I think we will have to wait till the summer to sign Torres… :wink:

  1405. Zorr0 says:

    lol, mucho apologetico, LUL = ManGoo. Very thick of me!

    So Suga3, would you be happy for us to sign Smalling?

  1406. SUGA3 says:

    one more thing: ‘we have no time to think about it as we are focusing on the next games’

    yet, somehow he found time to go and sign some 15 y.o. goalie ;)

    you gotta laugh at the cheeky fecker…

  1407. Keyser says:

    gambon – Sorry dude, just weren’t particularly funny.

  1408. SUGA3 says:

    Keyser,

    and that’s why we are short as fuck on the right – Nasri, Rosicky, Walcott: three friends from the treatment room :lol:

  1409. SUGA3 says:

    LUL,

    I reckon Sly did pretty well in a few games – I consider him to be a good pro…

    then again, Maxi could do the same…

  1410. LuvDup Loner says:

    Jaguar;

    I do not want to use the R word, but your comment smacks of bigotry… (There, didnt use the R word after all)

  1411. LuvDup Loner says:

    Theo, Rosicky and Nasri; all back and raring to go…. Maxi would not be too impressed not getting any game time in a WC year now would he! Or does he even get a game for Argentina these days???

  1412. Zorr0 says:

    lol, someone just asked Jimbo if he was going to run on the pitch and kick Theo in the bollocks!

    He said he would just continue to boo him and ridicule AW for picking him! Hilarious.

  1413. SUGA3 says:

    Zorr0,

    sorry mate, but one has to have them first…

  1414. Zorr0 says:

    MG, I used it, did you see the clever way I did though!! lol

  1415. LuvDup Loner says:

    If we signed Smalling and it wasnt till next season, I think we would be missing a few regualrs on here as they would’ve gone apoplectic with rage and konked out!

  1416. gambon says:

    Hopefully Theo wont get on the pitch in the first place.

  1417. LuvDup Loner says:

    Zorro;

    Ha! Thats way too clever for me, especially at this time of night!

    Theo will be a top player for us, he has been unlucky with injuries..,. he will show his class and not in a lady of the night way either… mark my words… Mark my words you disbelieveing- think Maxi is ace- heevens!!!

  1418. LuvDup Loner says:

    Adios y buenas noches bastados!!!!!

  1419. Zorr0 says:

    MG, laters buddy. Enjoy the match, give them a shout for me, especially the wee gobshite Walcott! Don’t forget to get your injections updated before re-entering Greater Mancfester!

  1420. SUGA3 says:

    I am watching AW’s conference:

    ‘what is Milner? 24? Give Theo 3 more years’

    AAAAAARGHHHHHHHH!!!

  1421. Zorr0 says:

    Laters all, I’ll be back for tomorrow’s installment of tag team action as Suga3 and David take on A and Keyser.

  1422. SUGA3 says:

    off to catch some Z’s, Mr Z?

    nite ;)

  1423. Zorr0 says:

    Suga3, you are obviously a masochist!

  1424. SUGA3 says:

    no, but I wanted to hear it straight from the horse’s mouth :lol:

    was not impressed with ‘I already forgot about Stoke’ comments…

  1425. nishanth says:

    skysports understands that wilshere is going to move to bolton wanderers.Surely this can’t be true right?

  1426. gambon says:

    Nish

    Yeah Coyle likes him

  1427. nishanth says:

    Coyle likes him but we fucking hate bolton and their shit was of playing football.I can’t imagine kevin davies making a run for a wilshere pass

  1428. gambon says:

    He doesnt need to learn how to play the game, he needs to toughen up and learn to perform under pressure.

    It doesnt matter whether he’s at Bolton or Brighton to do that.

    At least at Bolton the training will be physical so he will toughen up quick.

  1429. nishanth says:

    I agree he needs to toughen up and he would do that at any other premier league club too.I was hoping he would join west ham or even everton i didn’t mind

  1430. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    So 4 games tomorrow morning. If I have to look for another link for this game coz Fox are showing some other boring installment I’ll react :evil:

    So this one will be the 1st of the big month. An absolute 3 points, nothing less for me. It will take pressure off for the other 3 Big Games in a row.

    I hope Le Gaffer doesn’t start with Dennilson. He is a slow starter & for such an important fixture, The Arsenal would not want to be coming from behind.

  1431. nishanth says:

    GG9-Denilson is undroppable

  1432. gambon says:

    Right bed-time, gotta catch a train in 5 hours!

    Night y’all. Lets hope Chris Smalling has an epiphany in his sleep and calls Wenger in the moring!

  1433. raif says:

    i would rather wilshere goes to westham.. their down the road and keeps wilshere in london.. plus i feel they better football then bolton.

  1434. luke says:

    Very interesting Wenger says…

    A) I wont buy a player if he isnt already better than what we have

    AND

    B) We have the quality but now we need cover

    Which is it?

  1435. nishanth says:

    http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/01/26/update-arsenal-back-in-the-race-for-smalling/?
    This is getting really intersting.Looks like Wenger badly wants to sign smalling

  1436. nishanth says:

    They gave me a fair chance. But at big clubs you have a lot of players and two or three games a week and, if they come in and do well, they will take your place. That’s what happened to me. I don’t think I’ve been unfairly treated apart from the last few months but even then the players in the team were doing well and staying in.”

    “I am not bitter at leaving. Arsenal are a big club who gave me a lot and I owe a lot to them. They took me from Switzerland when I was 18 and I got to play in a Champions League final and to win the FA Cup. I am proud to say I was an Arsenal player but I couldn’t go on not playing every week. I needed to move. I didn’t just move to Everton for opportunities, I’ve moved to Everton because it’s a massive club and I can see myself growing as a player and as a man here.”

    Very nice of Senderos.Hope he does really well at everton

  1437. Pat says:

    nishanth, Hodgson said Arsenal didn’t even bid for him.

    Also, rumors going around that Red Nose dined with Hodgson this weekend.

  1438. maurya says:

    Bolton Lee looks like a great little player. He did very well against us and today he won 3 points for Bolton.

  1439. maurya says:

    Wenger is saying that, Gallas is playing all along with niggling injury. He should have convinced Sendoros to stay. He is a good option.

  1440. LAzer says:

    Post sounds like I missed the fun yesterday! damn the work bit…wish I worked as a full time groverster. :-)

  1441. Pat says:

    Hmm, apparently Warnock, Carew, Reo Coker are injured.

    Petrov will have a late fitness test and Shorey to be recalled from Nottingham?

  1442. bnsb says:

    So who has the worse injury list?

  1443. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Us

  1444. Geoff says:

    Smalling whatever, why is our manager such a jerk to always put the fans through this shit, year in, year out.

    Why doesn’t he just say, I’m signing no one, I’m giving all my boys fucking huge pay rises, so fuck off. And do that irritating smirk.

  1445. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    The FA Cup fixture was the 1st chance I had of having a good look @ JET. IMO he is the next version of the Togo Twat, who was next version of Kanu.

    Honestly, I could see a good deal of similarities with TT, physically & hair style wise.

  1446. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Geoff the shit he has put the fans thru is that The Arsenal is 2 points from Top with a game in hand. I agree AW is a dipstick when it comes to the transfer market with the way he procrastinates, but if we beat Villa we can go Topski againski. Chamoneeeeeski!!!!!

  1447. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Do the fans still sing the “Are you watching Tottenham” song :lol:

  1448. Goonerman says:

    Phil Brown: ‘I did not want to complain about Rio at the weekend in case I upset Sir Alex.’

  1449. Geoff says:

    Gnarley, football has 4 competitions, we should be trying to win them all, with our best players. Enough said.

    I think we are in this position because the others have fucked up, not because we are special, finally had we bought 3 players in the summer, we might be 10 points clear.

  1450. SUGA3 says:

    morning y’all ;)

    gg9,

    I am prepared to make AW right as long as we collect 7 points from the upcoming games…

    2 points off the top at the moment is fine, but if you take into the account our results against quality teams so far, it leaves a reasonable amount of doubt…

  1451. Geoff says:

    Also if we see Denilson line up again, I will lose all respect for Wenger, how many shit games does he have to play before Wenger admits he’s not good enough?

    It’s bad enough watching the keepers.

    I do wonder what Hill-Wood, Fizman, Kroenke, Usmanov and Gazidas all say to Wenger after watching those two after a game.

    Great selection Arsene, here’s more money for you.

  1452. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Geoff

    I know what you mean, but, gee, The Gooners are positioned nicely for a run @ It. We have a one, one sit coming into the straight, in horse racing terms.

    Suga

    Minimum 9 points for me, starting with 3 tomorrow morning.

  1453. SUGA3 says:

    gg9,

    minimum? If we manage that, I will admit that sun shines out of AW’s backside :lol:

  1454. ethangunner says:

    Great selection Arsene, here’s more money for you

    ————–
    HAHA id say thats exactly what there saying .
    whilst hunts on loan would be a good move , it might back fire if the guy plays like a legend for us then goes to man U or something after preforming with us ..

    i can see that happening …

    so if he fails we lose ,if he’s successful we will probably lose him to a better team if he preforms .

  1455. dennisdamenace says:

    Geoff – If we see Denilson in the starting line up tonight we will not beat Villa!

    This ‘player’ is a liability at this level, four years at the club, new improved contract and if anything he’s worse than when he first joined the club.

    I know Eastmond is not the finished article by a long way, but at least he shows promise, and understands his role In the team, I for one would feel more confident with him in the team, at least if Eastmond makes a mistake he’ll learn from it, I can’t say the same of Denilson!

  1456. Sam says:

    We have 16 games remaining in the prem. If Denilson starts even half of them, IMHO we wont win the league or even be 2nd in the league.

    We have a good chance if its song,cesc and diaby. Knowing our injuries with diaby and cesc , not sure.

  1457. Geoff says:

    Well at least we’re in agreement of how useless Denilson is, I agree, he has got worse.

    My post today offers an interesting alternative.

  1458. Geoff says:

    Sky just said to get into the EPL you need a wage bill of £10mil, fuck me and what’s ours???

  1459. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    I agree, Eastmond over Denilson

  1460. ethangunner says:

    Whilst denilson resembles curious George ,
    i dont think he is that bigger monkey ..

    He is definitely out of his league currently ,SURE !
    In time he could be good .. BUT HE’S NOT NOW !

    but who really is to blame denilson? or the manager for not recognizing currently he shouldn’t be in the team and give someone like rambo or even TV a chance in the hole ..

    i blame wenger for NOT realizing denilson in the last configuration just was hopeless .

  1461. stonroy says:

    Morning all, Denilson will play for sure. If Diaby is injured and Song is not there, Denilson will be on the pitch.

  1462. ethangunner says:

    Eastmond over Denilson

    IF you want/have to defend

    denyson over easteregg if attacking

  1463. ethangunner says:

    Denilson and Theo are wengers love childs ..

    they WILL PLAY :)

  1464. dennisdamenace says:

    Ethan – The manager EVERY time, just like all the booing Eboue got earlier in the season, that should’ve been directed at Wenger, as it’s his call to pick the players and piss ball around with their carears by continually playing them out of position….

  1465. ethangunner says:

    even nik B the other love child will play a part ..

    ohhh i can hardly wait !~

    ive got to get up at 3 am to watch this !
    oh the joy !!!!!

  1466. bnsb says:

    Its 1.15 am in this part of the world. EG where do you live?

  1467. Sam says:

    bnsb , u should be in my timezone then. India ?

  1468. bnsb says:

    sam Yup

  1469. Sam says:

    Ok. We have the game live today unlike the bolton game last week.

  1470. ethangunner says:

    DDM

    yeah ! agreed ..

    that was the point im trying to make all this BS over denilson (which i do agree he is playing crap )

    but shouldn’t we be blaming wenger for not realizing he is PLAYING CRAP ?

    is it denilsons fault he has to go out there ?
    NO

    and what sort of point does this prove , play as crap as you want .. you’ll get a call up next game anyhoo !

    total wank management !

    ( i know a few blokes here who would be interested in that :) )

  1471. dennisdamenace says:

    Ethan – Do we really need Denilson at all? After all if we take your analogy and go with Easteregg as a preference for defensive play, haven’t we got enough attacking quality in the rest of the squad to actually let this woeful player go? Surely from an attacking point of view he won’t be missed with the attacking options we have!

  1472. bnsb says:

    Sam, Apple is launching something out of this world at 11.30 pm

  1473. Pedro says:

    New post!

  1474. Cesc1 says:

    any1 got a decent stream4 the match???

  1475. colonel mustard says:

    russian but good stream

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