So after the interesting game that saw us win a point against top team Everton on Saturday, fans will have to wait until Sunday until we play Bolton. I for one can’t wait.
Pedro covered the game yesterday, all I can say there is at least the mercurial Denilson will be back on Sunday, Bendtner will be back in two weeks, Almunia got through the game un-injured and we may well be re-signing Sol Campbell, happy days then, the really good news is we won’t be spending any money so we will be in good financial shape.
Yes I know we didn’t really make the most of that game but don’t complain, we are in great shape. We are in third spot in the English Premier League, in the next round of the FA Cup and through the group stages of the European Champions league, how can we not be happy with that?
Resigining Sol Campbell will be like signing a new player and Fran Merida looks like he’ll be staying, I understand Man City, Aston Villa, Spurs, Man United and Chelsea are also thrilled we’ll be making no more signings, as they also believe we have enough in the locker room.
So they are thrilled, the board are thrilled and many of our weekend bloggers that came on, will also be besides themselves with our progress.
For any of you that may be a little disappointed out there, don’t be, as we are in great financial shape, and that’s the most important thing.
Ivan is rumoured to be taking the rest of the season off along with the 300 worldwide scouts we have, as there will be nothing to do until the summer, when all the 17 year old starlets will be looking for their first big professional contracts, and we all know that Arsenal is seen as the place to be as we pay so well and they will all get a chance to impress.
I just hope that Almunia gets a new and extended contract soon to match Denilson’s, as going through the summer wondering whether or not he’ll be off to Real Madrid will be too much for me to handle.
Anyone who may be a little nervous at the performance against Everton, don’t be, they drew against Chelsea, drew against Spurs and lost to us 6-1, but our team showed the same spirit as they did when we played Chelsea, so we have a lot to look forward to, mental strength, financial stability are massively important and don’t forget, we have a very young squad.
Not a lot more that I can add to all that. I hope this post shows the few doubters out there, that we are now true Arsenal fans, just like they are.
Have a great day Grovers, I’m sure our competitors will!
Le Grove is now smart phone compatible!
Pedro
Geoff
Screw Geography!!
Paaooooww!!!
One Response to “No one in but Sol Campbell and Denilson will return soon. I have now seen the light!”
tonyadamsisgod Says:
January 11, 2010 at 09:09
Screw Geography!!
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If I refresh this and find you in 1st Sabeel I’m not playing any more!!
hahaaaa 3rd
Sweet
Get in TAIG
Geoff – That is your worst post by far!!
Morning all, another Sunday wasted trawling through the papers trying to find a story about us signing somebody. I promised myself that I would not spend this January hitting F5 on News Now, another news year’s resolution gone.
I really don’t pretend I know more about football that Wenger but surely he must see that we need reinforcements? Is he really that pig ignorant about project youth (don’t answer that) and his misplaced loyalty to some players who simply aren’t good enough.
I see we claimed another 60k plus crowd on Sat, we know they count season tickets sales in that number but hopefully the Directors can see the vast numbers of empty seats in the ground at games this season. I know we have 10s of thousands on the wait list for season tickets but people will only pay top dollar for average performance for so long before they stop coming and watch for free on their PCs. I was willing to pay 3k for a club level ticket to watch Henry and Bergkamp but Almunia & Denilson? I don’t bloody think so
Anyway must go, haven’t hit F5 on News Now for 5 mins and you never know……………
Cracker of a post Geoff , here’s hoping some “other” people see the light as well
Fuck Denilson and fuck Almunia. And If Wenger doesn’t sign anyone then fuck him too! Even if Denilson is fit for the Bolton game we’re still risking our EPL dreams on the hope that his mysterious injury doesn’t recur! We shouldn’t be risking it on him when he is fully fit ffs!
Morning all, I decided to smoke the same stuff some of the other people that claim to be fans do.
morning gooners, top 10?
Irony is the poorest form of humor.
Tony, hang on mate, we’re in great financial shape and this young team has great mental spirit.
bnsb, surely you mean humour?
Geoff – Stop it. Now.
Ah, victim of victim of US english editor.
Dont worry guys , “We just lacked a little bit of sharpness” and ” played with the handbrake on” but to come back to 2-2 ” we showed great desire and mental spirit “
Also I got fed up with being told I’m too negative, so I had mushrooms for breakfast.
bnsb, I was being ‘ironic’ ha, ha!
Great positive post today.
Really pleased Arsene won’t be bringing in any more experienced quality players that would risk killing our current squad.
May I just add once again.
We are in great financial shape, phew.
Bnsb… I think you’re mistaking ‘sarcasm’ and ‘wit’.
Geoff, good post. I agree with some bits, disagree with others.
We’re in a good position… we need a couple of signings… and we certainly need to drop Al-flapper.
In case you were wondering, I have amended all the categories of the posts… yep, all done.
You gotta love the sarcasm.. A Fine way indeed to state well needed criticism against AW and the Board doing the same shite mistakes as the past, oh wait.. 6 seasons?
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1766_5852423,00.html?
Send a packet of mushroom each to Gambon, David et al, then this will be a True peaceful Arsenal fan site
“Whether I personally leave on a positive or negative note is a little bit less important.”
What the fuck!!!! That is exactly why we haven’t won anything for 5 fucking years! The guy has no motivation and clearly he is under no pressure from his employer!!
Fuck me that makes me angry!!
Pedro,
Stop questioning Arsene – we need no one, it will kill DireNeilson & Diaordinary, Merida & all.
I read someone slagging Le Grove off the other day… they said we gave all Arsenal fans a bad name.
I think the opposite. I think the fans who claim Denilson is better than Alonso and the press are out to get us give us the bad names.
I swear there is one blog on the feeds now who solely writes about other blogs or people in the media… what a bore.
Morning all..
The game at the weekend is already scaring me..
Muamba and co will eat denilson alive!
There was one good thing to come out of Saturday, watching all the abuse against denilson on Le-grove and then 1 lone denilson fan try to stand up for him, great sport…………..
Who wants to see Eastmond in for Sunday?
Stevie. I think Denilson got a bit of a rough ride considering he hasn’t played much!
Rambo was just as bad… Diaby was poor early on… poor old Den!
Geoff we also have quality and ability and we will win a trophy this season by far mr wengers strongest squad since he’s been here……..
Al Vampire is seriously bad, and this post is seriously sarcy i Love It
No, I want Denilson back, that alone guarantees 1000 plus posts here.
Pedro, I think denilson was paying the price for previous games,having gone down like he had just got off the Togo team bus you would have thought he would have had the grace to at least miss a couple of games though injury
great post, thank you, cheered me up a lot!
Geoff – You forgot to add we the fans will be very re assured by who we bring in this transfer window we only aim to bring in world class talent thats better than what we already have
QUESTION:
A group of my Goons all met for a xmas dinner & had a debate.
Some are def AKB & others are Grovers influeneced !
However I asked the question:
‘How long would you give Arsene without changing his policy & winning nothing???
We had a mix of answers,
Grovers over to you !!!!
Enough of the negativity!
It might be frustrating if we make no signings, but January is notoriously difficult to make signings, especially when what we need is world class players. Get behind the team and what we have because you just never know!
Bnsb… as long as there is marmite, there is a Le Grove.
Dont you just love it. Happy new year.
I would just like to add how much i’m looking forward to seeing Denilson driving our midfield forward over the next 5-10 seasons, especially after RvP, AA23 and Fab4 do the right and honourable thing by fucking off asap as they are obviously holding back this natural talent….
Why does Wenger not see what the whole world can see?
Almunia is like a rabbit caught in headlights. Surely even Wenger can see that Fabianski is improving with every game and is already streets ahead of Almunia !
As for Denilson, I feel a bit sorry for him, as I remember him making a big impact in his first season but has dramatically declined every since. We will never win anything with these 2 as first choice players.
And if the stubborn old goat is waiting for Bendtner to come back and solve our striking problems, then I think he should step down and let someone with some balls and who isn’t partially sighted take over !
I’ve had enough of being also rans when all it takes is a couple of decent signings and we could actually win the league this year, as there are no outstanding teams.
WAKE UP WENGER OR STEP DOWN !
Nickyc,
Thats the problem we should have signed them in the summer as we needed then exactly what we need now !!
Nicky, every transfer period is hard for Wenger. If it’s not the world cup, it’s a Sheikh or Oligarch, or it’s January, or there aren’t the players available etc etc…
Other teams manage it…
Question? If our learner manager did manage for find someone better that what we currently have, would that not ‘kill’ the current player??
Dennis:
You are a negative bastard !! (typed with tongue in cheek)
Pedro, a question
Which other EPL team has managed a “decent” buy this January?
bnsb:
Wenger managed to buy Arshavin last January – just !
Have some faith, though said with a massive hint of irony (by Geoff), where we sit now really isnt a bad place to be. We could use a new central defender and striker, but if we dont bring them in, stay with the team get behind them and lets just see! The negativity is so frustrating! thousands of empty seats on Saturday (like every week), and a shocking atmosphere don’t help what was admittedly a very poor performance!
dg,
THIS january so far?
It’s not people who think Denilson is better than Alonso or will be soon or whatever, they’ve got a point of view that works even if you disagree -
It’s people who think Denilson is not good enough and there are better players that could help at a reasonable price but that things will be ok anyway.
Personally, I’d be prepared to give him a few more games unless M Diarra is actually available, fit and the subject of frenzied round the clock negotiations that will get him here by the middle of Thursday fired up for a debut at Bolton.
Incidentally, if Denilson’s not fit I’d like to see Coquelin (won’t happen though), don’t really like any of Diaby Ramsey or Nasri as DM.
Also although I think Alm8unia should be dropped for Fabianski, who’s looked a lot better this year to me, when he’s played, he was NOT responsible for either goal and made the save from Vaughn that got us a point.
I undertsand why people think he’s shocking but get it right. The attack didn’t threaten that much and the defence let in two horrible goals. None of that is Al’s fault.
DDM – Hows it? The worst thing Wenger has done in his time at Arsenal is surely give birth to the ‘killing the player’ phrase!! Fucking moron!
DoubleG – For me, if we don’t strengthen in January and fail to win a trophy at the end of the season, couple that with no proper signings in the summer and then by the start of the new season we have the same old spin about ‘i believe in this squad’ , ‘mental strength’ , ‘young team’ etc etc then as far as i’m concerned he can piss off there and then!
Dear Editor,
Excellent Post with a touch of LETS ALL TAKE THE PISS!!!
Come on matey….No Fab,Song,RVP,Nicky B,Theo,Clichy,Gibbs,Rosicky not fully fit….we were due a shaky performance and we got one…..If we sign David Villa, will we defintely win the league?…if we sign Buffon, will we defintely win the league?
Let Wenger do what he does best and if we finish 5th or worse, he will go!!!
If not, he should be applauded for once again doing MIRACLES with the BUDGET he has…..
Finally, i reckon we will be all be celebrating in Madrid on the 22nd of May…Destiny Awaits!!!
Please see a new website http://www.arsenalislife.com….
Regards
Pez
chris
Al nearly had Sagnas foot broken, idiot!
… and Traore rib smashed
Dennis:
Thats my feeling too. Although I’d thank him his the old days.
That’s my point TAIG, by the very nature of his ‘i will only buy better than what we have’ comment followed by the ‘killing the player’ comment you are logically confronted by what is almost a double-negative!
We played like little pixies at the bottom of the garden for the first few games after RvP left us so it’s to be expected that we’re going to do the same after losing Song.
Bolton will probably pull down our pants and spank our petite derrieres next Sunday with or without Fab. If we shoot twice and get two deflected goals again then it won’t look so bad.
This Wenger vintage never hits the heady heights of the early mid 00′s but then again we have never seen them sink. He knows how to steady the ship.
However hoping he finds a balance with the players at his disposal is ludicrous because whereas he has enough attacking talent to compensate for the loss of RvP, we all know he doesn’t have anyone to replace Song.
Without an adequate Song replacement over the next 3 weeks we will suffer badly.
mornin Groovers…
well one thing is for certain…the financial crisis are starting to hit the premier..and even though i agree that we need to buy at least a couple of players….and denilson hasnt turned out the way i hoped..there really isnt that many good enough players out there…for us to buy…
Bnsb… so you’re not comfortable with us making a signing unless another team does?
What sort of logic is that?
ddm,
then as far as i’m concerned he can piss off there and then!
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He will NOT!
and you can moan the whole of next year too
Nickyc, Arsenal sold there soul to the corporate fanbase and are now reaping what they sowed so no i have no smpathy for the souless bowl we call home, Oh didnt we move to compete financially or was that just another load of prada bollocks
TAIG – Arsene’s a fucking moron..??
Thats all you’d have to say to him if you met him..?? There’s nowt to thank him for..????
Morning All…but not stopping too long
DoubleG – Agreed, i will always thank him for what he’s done for our club.
AW’s a bit like Jacko! Jacko pre 1986 was the absolute master, after that he will always be remembered for his failings!
Pedro,
I did not say that. You are sexing my comment up
Oh right, what did you mean by that comment then?
Or was it just a question?
bsnd – good for you!
Pedro – I really think his point is that the complaints of no signings would be more valid if other teams were finding it easier to sign people and had been doing so.
morning all, we’re missing song already, i reckon even geoff will admit that in a few weeks!!
wenger seemed a bit more honest than usual though and actually admitted we were 2nd best! its been a long time since he’s done that!
ddm,
to balance it all out…
im not a wenger fan….still lets see how fergie and rafa copes with the financial restrictions put on them..add to that..we just got a new stadium…
one could easily argue that wenger has done very well…all considered..
M.Diarra? Have you seen him lately and more importantly yesterday, he was garbage against Angola. Seydou Keita is the best Mali player and is top notch, if we got him then I’d listen to people.
Why are we doubting Wenger when we are 3 points off Chavski? We can’t just go and buy players for the sake of it. Obviously if we could get the right player, we would sign them just as we did Verms, Nasri and Arshavin.
Almunia should be dropped next game for sure, he is garbage. Get Fabianski in, he is a better shot stopper. Clichy, Bendtner, Fabregas will all be back soon for the big games.
If we could sign Chamakh then we would have, but Bordeaux will not let him leave and if you think we will waste £10-12m on someone we don’t need, then I doubt it. Gazidis would buy someone if we can get someone in.
Sol for 6 months, why not he’d teach the youngsters a thing or two.
Morning chaps, I watched the game on Saturday and we fought hard but were out muscled by a tenacious Everton team. The ref was poor, he consistently allowed Everton players to tackle hard-getting the ball first but clattering the man afterwards, I thought that was a foul?
“I got the ball first” only counts if you get the ball fairly, phil nevile getting the ball then forearm smashing denilson to the ground is a foul and a penalty! Am I the only one who thinks refs change the rules every week, all we want is consistency!
After our match I tuned into Birmingham vs Man utd and noticed something, every time a decision was given against man utd their players would bully the ref. clattenberg was having non of it but the linesmen and 4th offcial were definitely effected.
The 4th official who got an ear-bashing from old father time(fergie) added 6 mins of injury time for 3 subs , no injuries and 1 goal -how did he work that out?according to the FA you add 30 seconds for each sub and goal, that makes it 2minutes!
After the whistle clattenberg was surrounded by rooney and giggs who launched the usual 4 letter word tirade, yet no action was taken. Can you honestly imagine what the response of the media would be if our players acted like this?
I never see our boys question anything! even though arsenal are the most fouled team in the league we never get up and demand opponents bookings, we never run to linesman or swear at refs. So why do man utd get away with it when every other team has to adhere to the RESPECT campaign??
Sharkey, Liverpool have no money (bar a little bit for Lopez), Chelsea aren’t buying and Man United aren’t in the market either.
How are they finding it tough if they’re not looking?
but Pedro…why arent they lookin ??
And the 16 other PL clubs Pedro…???
glad to see us linked with behrami
Corners:
Is there any coincidence that as we cannot take corners that we are totally clueless how to defend them ??
Behrami would be a good signing.
Nasty and tenacious.
Sharkey, do the other 16 clubs have £40mil at there disposal?
Bar City of course.
OK so Wenger buys no one in and we finish the season
with no silverware, what happens then? Surely no gooner
can say that is acceptable? Especially given the fact
that Wenger has got the funds now.
Morning by the way.
As a normal football fan without a world wide scouting network at my disposal i can point out a handful of decent signings to Mr. Wenger and co
a) The Birmingham cb pairing of Dan and Johnson
b) Paul Scharner of wigan
c) Behrami of Westham
And i am sure if i would have followed foreign leagues as avidly as the epl i would have pointed out other good buys as well. The problem is even if Wenger fancies someone like Hangeland or Chamack he doesnt follow up with concrete steps whereas Ferguson gets what he wants always has from Rooney to Berbatov etc. And i guess the recent difference in trophies of both clubs is an eye opener as well.
The signings of Vermaelen and Arshavin are proof before our eyes. A couple of good additions ( we dont demand the world of them , we dont want messi , ribery or kaka or ibrahimovic do we ? ) and we could maintain our challenge . Take Cesc , Song and RVP out of this team and we simply dont have that cutting edge.
Behrami is Flamini but taller, a great player I feel for us if we could get him, but it will not be in January.
I don’t know what planet Myles Palmer is on, he talks about Arshavin being wasted at Arsenal, well Arshavin needs to actually move and pick up the ball to get goals and not shrug his shoulders.
‘Financial restrictions’ What financial restrictions????
It is AW’s choice not to buy, NOT financial contraints, this club is currently rolling in available funds ffs!
As one of our Grovers stated last week, “Remind me again why it was we moved to a new stadium”. One thing we can all look forward to is an increase in season ticket prices in order that Msr Wenker can continue to bring success to our club with more super, super signings.
i feel delinson was very isolated i feel poeple forgetting that when song is there he and delinson both play in that position delinson was in a kind free role were he both helped in attack and intercept passing tract back a little but inorder for that delinson to be effective ramsey and diaby will have more dispined and help out delinson.i feel inorder for sol cambell to come the senderos situation will have to cleard and right now its anything but that is he injured there is no info in the arsenal webite about ,he has not played in reserves so if he stay he has not played in the longest time so he will need time he clearly wants leave.it is very strange situation going on there the club are being very tight lipt on it.sole cambell would be good short term option he is experienced can be used in carling cup games.silvest good for the younger players but in terms of playing he might have been top player 3-4 years ago but no he mearly a 4/5th defender
Dennis not in the long term it isn’t it needs to renew the corporate seats. Its called a cashflow forecast, we have debt to pay off remember.
Pedro,
It was a genuine question. Not being ironic, I swear
Just noticed, Sharky read my mind.
It could be coincidence that no one has signed quality. That includes Middleeastlands. They have thrown money, have they got fair value for it?
So
a) Quality is hard to come by
b) Everyone is cautious
Joe, isn’t Arshavin, Vermalean and Nasri, super super signings? we can’t sign 5 players every transfer window, we’d end up like man shitty with a 90m loss.
fuck the rest, the fact that -we- don’t have a good CB on the way is bad news.
Bnsb, that is rubbish.
Typical ‘Arsene-speak’.
There are plenty of players out there, you’ve just got to put some effort into finding them.
I guess it’s mostly dependent on whether there is a real desire to find them…
i guess i answer that on myself..
under financial restrictions…players will be hugely overpriced…how much would chamakh really be worth…5-6M at the most…its a crazy world out there right now…and in my opinion….the premier.is adjusting to the real world…thats why nobody seems to do business….loans have suddenly become really popular…
DM10,
OK so Wenger buys no one in and we finish the season
with no silverware, what happens then?
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OK so Wenger buys no one in and we finish the season
with silverware, what happens then???
Galvinho, we easily repay the loan. Go and watch the Gazidis interview or have a flick through the annual report.
And City have signed PV4. Aged 33. On loan. Thats hardly trailbazing stuff…
Anyway, weren’t you advocating remaining ‘calm’ last week. What happened…?? D’you spend round the weekend round at your ‘cousins’…? Haven’t I warned you about spending too much time with him….
Learn the hard way if you must….
Anyway I read a really good piece on Harry and his trailblazing thru clubs which are now in a bit of trouble.
Is it alright to post the link to it here…??
Pedro
Tinted glasses etc etc
I believe Denilson has had a lot of stick unjustly. Against everton there were very few threats they made down the middle. The whole team were off key. Traore was bad and blaming denilson for his bad game is plain stupid not like he overlapped much during the game. Arshavin was wasted, Nasri was playing without penetrating and Alumunia was just Alumunia. Not like the midfield we played had any out and out creative player, they were all box to box and denilson also had to be in the final third. That game Ramsey and Arshavin were wasted. Arshavin played a couple of bad passes in the final third and arshavin is a player that goes hidden during matches. He needs to learn to impose himself on the game especially when Fab4 is not playing.
Pedro, no, we can NOW repay the loan as it was restructured. The Financial Covenants were restricting us and the repayment schedule is now extended.
I have seen the annuals, but the fact is we need to renew the corporate seats to carry on as is. We cannot spend £40m a season. That is a fact.
Dennisdemenace…
in a market where players are hugely overpriced..would you gladly spend the money just because you had funds…or do like every other club does…wait to see what happens ??…prices will adjust..a player we could pay 15M for right now…will be at half price once the transfer market has adjusted to the economic situation…
Sharkey, I am calm. I’ve always advocated signings. However, it’s not looking good is it?
City don’t need to go out and sign loads of players. They’re after a defender who I believe they’re in negotiations with. They’ve signed a championship winning player, probably for the dressing room and they’re not too far off the top of the league.
Why are you so concerned with what the rest are doing?
morning all y’all
good post, very Geoff…
Denilson is not a defensive player – he was OK in the first season, due to being played in more advanced position – I see ‘zis’, why doesn’t OGL?
Galvinho, we made £35mill after all the loans were paid off, then got a further £40mill from transfers.
Plus, no one is asking for £40mill every season…
I had a dream last night. We had signed Torres, Yaya and Akinfeev. We won the treble! Ah but our financial position was not so stable.. :p
james beattie on loan-done.
Galv – I’m tired and bored of going over old ground about ‘debt’, is your mortgage debt? Coz that is what AFC have a large mortgage, recent financial report(s) have highlighted just how much money AFC is making and how much is available. We’ve done this debate to death over the past months. People drag this ‘argument’ up every few months to defend AW’s policies regarding spending on strengthening the first team. These people are AW apologists, he and he ALONE has decide this course of action…..
Sahrkey – Thats a bit off isn’t it? I didn’t just randomly call him a moron did I. I said he was a moron for inventing the phrase of ‘player killer’. It makes no sense in the world of elite football and its just a disgusting phrase regardless of what it actually relates too.
Sharkey, as a manager, you spend what you’re given.
Is it Harry’s fault or the board that sanctioned the money in the first place?
A&N – that’s typical of the way the media look at things viz a vi the mankskummers and us. When the manks score a last minute equaliser it’s the mark of winners, when we do it we are “lucky Arsenal” depriving the brave toffees of a deserved win.
The fact themankskumers need the ref to overrule an offside against their equaliser seems to have slipped past the mank loving media. If it had been us they Mail and all the other rag tops would have started a campaign to have the equaliser overturned!
If you looked at the BBC website on Saturday evening it summed up the medias hypocrisy :”Man Utd denied top spot by Birmingham”(Despite Scholes staying on the pitch after a red card tackle on Benitez, but Scholes is English so the media will keep quiet about that) and “Everton denied three points by Rosicky” – the implication that ManUre have a moral right to win every game and we have no right to deny plucky Everton their deserved victory.
But of course we know how fair-minded and objective our beloved media are, so I curse myself for ever doubting them.
Of course the Respect campaign doesn’t apply to any of the Manks – they can swear at the ref and show all manner of dissent and escape any censure – just look at what Shrek boy routinely gets away with.
Can you imagine the buzz in the stadium if Paddy had come on for the last six minutes? Would of drove those c…s on to a win, don’t care how old a fucking legend and chance missed nice one boss
SongtheGreat ,
We got 40 million from city for toure and ade which is more than what they are really worth. We did not replace ade.
To buy u want to wait for the economic situation to imrove.
U cant have it both ways.
Galviniho, Not asking for hte club to spend 40mill a season But spending the Transfer fees we received for the Cunt and Toure would be nice and would go a long way to buying us what we need,
LOL@GEOFF
No Sarcasm What so ever!
Great post Geoff.
We don’t have bloody time to wait for last minute buys.
If we have the money Arsene should have already made the signings.
If we end the season with no signings and no silverware I for one will be demanding Wenger fuck’s off, I don’t care what others think it is not acceptable.
I do admit he has done a good job earlier in his career.
But we are not fucking Newcastle United. No trophies is not acceptable!
DDM, I sat through the AGM where they said everything was rosey, I listened to Gazidis say all the profit from players was available and I listened to him in an interview say that Wenger had a substantial fund to buy players.
Yet we still get the financial fear monger’s on…
Actually..a very interesting thing..whenever I read a new story headline on newsnow concerning AW I actually have a feeling whats gonna be inside the interview/article. I’ve tried this now and I have been spot on. Last night the news on “why ACN should be continued” I tried to guess the reasoning Arsene must have given, and I got it 100 % correct. Its happened so many times. I wonder if he can hire me for the interviews bit and focus on his bloody job, signing some good players and winning something !
A&N – Are you Gordon Ramsey???
Pedro what loans are paid off? We still have the debt?
I like you know that this is a fantastic chance to win the league title and I agree that with a striker and defender we can win it. But we all must undertstand that all clubs across Europe in this window are taking things carefully. I personally think that if we got Sol in and got someone up front on the short term, we could have a good chance.
and the next thing up is players wages…it just has to come down…its feckin silly to pay a footballer 40k a week,that feck milner is asking for 75 a villa..hehe…what the feck is that all about eh…i hope they soon accept that people will not stand for it anymore…
Galviniho, fair point, but Arsh was forced upon him, Nasri only replaced Hleb. Where is the back up if we pick up injuries at cb, how long do we have to suffer the Spanish waiter. My point is though, that Wenker will trot out the same old same old at the end of the season, smug smirk on his face, and fuck all happens after season ticket monies are safely pouched.
Galvinho, all companies work with debt. Ours is manageable…
Circular motion there Pedro.
Me concerned with what everyone esle is doing…?? Where’d I say that…??
I clarified BNSB’s point for you, then responded to yours about who is or isn’t buying.
We’ll sign someone when we sign someone, and maybe we won’t.
Either way I believe we will continue to maintain a strong challenge this season. We have too many good players not to.
Pedro,
Is it Harry’s fault or the board that sanctioned the money in the first place?
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By same logic, How is it Wengers fault if he cannot find another Arshavin, at right price?
Pedro – It’s just a convenient ‘argument’ to defend AW’s policies. It would appear certain people can’t get their collective heads around the fact that AW chooses the current direction of the club. No doubt when it goes tits up again, they crawl outta the woodwork again claiming the poor sod has no money!
I didn’t enjoy the post today.. sarcastic? yes.. funny? no…
Please can we end this argument between Arsene-Knows-Best’s and I-Know-Best’s about who are true Arsenal fans and get back to talking about football.
Anyone know anything more about denilson’s injury?
ade wasn’t replaced because wenger said vela was good enough!
Pedro, I agree, but Liverpool’s is manageable now – until next season when the income does not meet the outgoings when they are not in champs league.
Football is dependant on TV money and merchandising. Without the Champs league cash and corporate sponsorship and a high wage bill = financial meltdown.
Wenger and the hard work of the backroom staff like Steve bould have put this club in a good position.
I will bow to most peoples knowledge on here about football and probably Arsenal and how it works. Yes we were poor on Saturday.
The top teams are dropping points vitually every week.
I do not believe that we are in a bad position and come May i think we’ll have a trophy. I can’t see the need for all the negativity though and if that makes me an AKB then so be it.
Does anyone think if it had been Fab in goal the result would have been different?
Wiseman, Dennilsons suffering with cackitus
Sam…
i dont disagree…we should buy a couple of players..no doubt..still…throwing money out the window or buying second rate players doesnt make much sense either…
the premier has to change…the financial situation is feckin bad…
and Pedro…financial fear ?? wake up …its been a crazy world in the premier for ages now..and look around frech football had to adjust..the german league has done it…italians….throwing money you dont have really doesnt cope anymore..
‘Right Price’ Ha Ha Ha, what like Messi for £4.50, but sell that twat from Togo for £25m….
Sharky,
Too many good players are injured or just about back from injury, thats worrisome.
Bnsb, we’re not looking for another Arshavin.
DDM – Ramsey is my role model!
Chary, im glad you are of the same opinion as me. and I agree scholes got away with a x-rated lunge, did you see how fast he ran away afterwards!?
When I see our team and the mancs it is easy to see that we are technically superior, but what we lack is that edge they have to moan, cheat, and bully the ref. We would never be allowed to do that and that is why Man utd have a handicap advantage for the league every season.
Galvinho get an accountanto analyze Arsenals Debt ratios and give u his opinion.
Why do u think The Cowboy and the Oligarch are fighting over this club??? Because they think its sinking with debt. Liverpool has debt problems, they cannt find a buyer. Not us.
Anyone know what the ruling is on players who return from the ACN early due to the troubles, will they then be eligible to play for their respective clubs??
Galvinho, Liverpool’s debt is far from manageable.
You can’t even compare the two clubs…
Whose going to be the first to bring up Leeds today?
Mr B, you couldn’t be more wrong.
They’re circling our club because they know it’s a money making machine with an amazing infrastructure.
TAIG. Yeah a little harsh if truth be told…but the same could be said of your original comment.
I’ve no problem with the rational or even irrational criticsm he gets but all the name calling does my fucking head in.
On Sat we saw a new low with an ‘Arsenal fan’ claiming that he and his Mrs are convinced that Arsene’s a paedo and that his transfer policy reflects that!! WTF.
Yesterday he was back on bitching about the flak he got for his post. You couldn’t make it up….
Mr B I can do that myself. Go and read the Deloitte report on money in football.
TAIG…peace
Did I read somewhere we’ve got the third highest turnover in Europe now? 6th most profitable?
Pedro I thought Sarcasm was the theme of the Day.
Mr B..
i would be very careful…looks to me that americans owners just uses the clubs they buy as a cover up for debt they already have…and what happens then..??
A&N,
When I see our team and the mancs it is easy to see that we are technically superior, but what we lack is that edge they have to moan, cheat, and bully the ref. We would never be allowed to do that and that is why Man utd have a handicap advantage for the league every season.
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You are one jealous, demented, frothing at mouth rabid Arsenal fan
Touche Mr B
Pedro, we are just trying to put things into perspective. Our wage bill is high beacuse we give £30k a week contracts to young players so they stay at the club which really is not a good policy but its what we have adopted.
The real issue is tearing up the emirates deal and nike’s deal which gazidis is trying to do.
Does the Deliotte report say anything about arsenal or is it just a general report on the industry.
Also do u think that with a 3% increase in expences(which the transfers we are demanding are to the revenue of the club)we would sink. Not mentioning we would drasticly increase attendence and other revenues by winning something.
wouldnt take much of insight to understand why the americans bought manu and l’pool it was a way to survive the financial crisis in the US…clever though..but who’s paying the price now..??..
bnsb-now your sounding like a journalist.
Moving on if you think Almunia is bad in goal, did you see the Mali and Angola’s keepers? shocking.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/international/6965423/Didier-Drogba-not-mentally-fit-to-compete-in-Africa-Cup-of-Nations-says-Alaixys-Romao.html
HA!
ArsenalTom,
Though it is difficult to digest, Vela is not as good as that Togo fellow today. If you agree on that , then we should be signing a striker atleast now.
meeeeeeeeeeeow !
Success breeds Success!
Geoff,
You’ve let sarcasm take over !!!
It was on the 2nd paragraph that i picked up the sarcastic tone !! I was reading it fuming as I am not happy at all with the draw vs Everton. Candidates to win the EPL beat teams like Everton at home !!! I remember TA in 98
I know they drew at chavski but they are the points we were all hoping Chavski would drop…….what is the fcuking point when we drop the same points at home !!
As you know I am a supported of Arsenal 1st and I support AW and put my trust in him but I am getting really really really fcuked off with the lack of signings and fcuking bullshit excuses !!!
Please ARSENAL !! Ivan, the board AW, please go and fcuking buy 2 players urgently !!
some of you sounds like a horny houswife who just got her hands on his husbands wallet on payday…(fully acknowledging that sarcasm was/wasnt the theme of the day ) ;
Mr B, I agree, a “Bergkamp” signing can out bums on seats for sure and lets face it, if that type of signing arrived we’d all purchase tickets. But I think the level on blame on Wenger for his transfer policy is sometimes blinkered when you are comparing Arsenal to Man Shitty and Chavski.
A&N,
bnsb-now your sounding like a journalist.
I work hard and earn a decent living.
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Thats an insult which no self respecting man will take
Someone on here friday (TAIG, I think), said we would sign Cole monday, FACT. Well. I for one would not sign someone with his injury record, however, right now I could not give a shit if we signed a player for £12 (or whatever) and he only played four games and won us those games.
On the DM (god we miss Song), to me Vermy looks and plays like Yaya. Agressive in the tackle, great at surging runs with a bullet of a shot.
Sol in at the back, with Vermy as DM?
Has there ever been a great African goalkeeper?
Sharkey – ha ha, I’m always peaceful! Well, nearly anyway! I know what you mean about the name calling which is why I went for the fairly non-offensive ‘moron’.
Peace out homie….
maksud,
Not-mentally-fit.
surely they are referring to Ade?
Wenger can never see what we all see. And would Benitez or Fergie not spend £40m if they had it available to them? of course they would spend it, they always spend every penny, so it bollocks that wenger says he cant find players. We can all see Behrami wants out of West ham – his agent more or less confirmed they are listening to offers.
Micky – ha ha, yep, guilty as charged! Cole will be fit by the end of January, will be come an instant hero for Arsenal and win us the EPL! Fact. ha ha……
i this nonense that arseanl are stingy i think people are forgetting just how much this team spends on wages only man city chelsea and manu just because they spend a huge amoun tranfer fees poeple think the this team stingy
Galviniho…
how many more seats can we sell ??….it isnt like the emirates are empty on matchdays…??
nope the financial gain would be steadily improving Arsenal as a world wide brand..and i have to admit..a messi like signing would be great..
More to the point. Why hasn’t there been a great Indian or Pakistani player yet?
I hear Thomas Bendtner is going to be signed up and ready for Bolton away.
5000-10000 empty seats is a lot. That is hurting the club more than a couble of signings would even if they were expensive.
Even if we have Song , we still need another DM. A club like ours needs 2 proper players for each position. Denilson is not a proper player.
we should have taken Vieira. that was a big mistake. he was willing to go somewhere on a 6 month contract, and he is now playing a far more defensive role since his legs have gone a bit – no more box to box for him. He would have done us, and not ‘blocked’ the youth coming through, like Coquelin for example.
Can’t believe it’s up to Wenger whether or not he signs a new contract.
Here’s a thought – why don’t you actually fucking deliver something, and think about whether or not we actually want you back, you arrogant man?
A good article apart from the bit that says “Song has been outstanding for the past year now”!!
http://anotherarsenalblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/midfielders-who-can-defend-are-we-short.html?
Pedro – they are midgets like the rest of the Arse team
Last post from me.
Pedro. ‘Whose’ is not a word as far as I’m concerned. I’ll google it later though.
Trailblazing should be this weeks word of the week.
Re Spending what you’re given, what about moral responsiblity and abit of far-sightedness..??
All this we sold at inflated prices means we should also buy at inflated prices is the funniest stuff I read on here. Its actually used as a stick to beat Arsene with…odd.
Hey Wardo. You still on red alert re the baby…??
Thats me offski…..
and what the feck do we need a new goalie for.?.ship almunia off to a desert island and get Fabianski in right now…send mannone to greenland..and get szczhesny in as no 2..that would do just fine…..
Official figures for Everton game were around 60000. Actual might be lower but I guess they count the number of tickets sold and Season tickets inflate that figure.
Pedro
ALL Indians and Pakistanis and Srilankans and Bangladeshis and of late Afganistanis play only gully cricket. FACT
Geoff,
I usually have a mixed opinion about the style of your posts, but this one is the top: ironic, easy going and to the point. Great staff!
Next Sunday, when we play Bolton, we will be 6 points behind Chelsea (certanily) and just 1 point ahead of ManCity (probably). Than nobody will say the home draw against everton was not 2 points dropped.
As to the game, I think it’s our arttack that let us down. It’s not unusual for to go 1 behind at home (Blackburn this season or Everton last season), but we tend to scrore at the right moment. Not so on Saturday though, when, despite the pressure in the second half, we did not score until the 80-th minute changed the game. And here to the striker’s question: Adebayor not replaced (fair enough), RvP injured, Eduardo not the player he used to be and not trusted to play in the middle, Bendner not fit and not ready, Arshavin (!) played as a centre forward. It’s insane. When we run out of deflected goals, who will save our skin?
Cannot believe none of you are beside yourselves with excitment over my, frankly genius, idea of Vermy as DM. Bastards.
Sharkey: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/whose
You learn something new everyday.
Bnsb, that’s not a fact.
I know some great Indians (British based) who are unbelievably skilful. Especially at 5 a-side.
To me the “Is Wenger stingy?” question is down to Wenger spending above average wages to keep largely mediocre younger players on long term contracts so he can cash in on their “sell on” value, however he doesn’t seem to want to spend on transfer fees for older/experienced players who will have less sell on values. Wenger balks at paying for experienced players because, IMO, he gets less pleasure at fitting ready-made players than “unearthing gems”.
I know there are exceptions to some of what I’ve said but you cannot say we don’t have the money if you look at what we pay out on wages. I’ve always said we should have a smaller higher quality squad with less mediocre players clogging up the reserves/youth teams.
OK I lied….but TAIG driove me to it.
” ..fairly non offensiove – ‘moron’ ”
I’ve got tears in my eyes at that one….brilliant
Ps. I write ‘Peace’ just to show that I’m not going off at someone. I NEVERc do but occasionally my ois can be a little bit ambiguous.
Right I’m really off now…. but thanks again for that one TAIG. Absolute classic
Almunia is a joke.
Pedro.
Back to an earlier point. SS makes a statement about that odious twat Twitchy Redknapp and you defend his reckless signing by saying the Board’s agreed. I would point out that the Police felt they had a corruption case against HR but were unable to garner enough evidence to prosecute (enough to arrest though!). HR made his millions from “insider dealing” on players.
Geoff makes totally unsubstantiated statements regarding AW making profits from the lack of spending and the ensuing profit to the club. And you blithely accept it.
what the heck..lets buy someone like kenwyne jones,carlton cole,cana,….or whatever that would surely make us a force to reckon with in europe and the world..and would make us a world wide super power in a flash…
or lets buy moses at least we would be closer to heaven ;
On your point Sharkey, it’s not a point. Pompey wanted to stay in the Prem. Harry was armed with a war chest to do it… and they stayed up and won an FA Cup.
I’m not asking Wenger to pay over the odds… but getting your knickers in a twist over a million quid here and there when you’ve taken £40mill for two players seems a bit weak.
Will Cesc be back for the bolton game?..Bolton players will batter denilson
We could get away with having this squad but if they had the grit, if they had the bit between their teeth.
But whos gonna instill than mentality. Wenger???
http://www.gcse.com/english/whose.htm
Pedro, I agree. The best players at my school were Pakistani and Indian, but for some reason they just don’t continue playing after they move on to university/college.
I think it has a lot to do with family support, asian family’s want their kids to do well in education and don’t really think of sport as a serious professional avenue.
Arsene Wenger insists that he is thinking about his own future before committing to a new contract.
The Arsenal boss has shunned numerous offers to leave the club during his 13 years with the Premier League title contenders.
He has 18 months left on his current deal – but he admits that making sure the club are in ‘good hands’ is his main concern.
Speaking to French TV, Wenger said that if he signed a new long-term deal with Arsenal then that would mean he would end his career in North London.
“I am giving myself a bit of time to think,” he said.
“What is important is that the club is in good hands, whether they are mine or someone else’s.
“Whether I personally leave on a positive or negative note is a little bit less important.”
Just googled it myself too…..incredible.
I stand corrected Pedro.
I know some great Indians (British based) who are unbelievably skilful. Especially at 5 a-side.
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Overseas defectors and traitors
Its extremely frustrating to see our great football club so close to winning silverware, I for one Don’t want wenger to leave, however I do want the board to pressure him into winning trophies and to shelf project youth. We dont need world superstars or big name players from great clubs (who had heard of Vermalaen before we bought him)just good back up players in order that we can push on in the second half of the season and help us win silverware, there must be 2/3 players who would jump at the chance of joining The Arsenal.
Have to say on everton’s second goal how come both Gallas and Vermaelen were in the opposition box (and it wasn’t a corner)?! one is OK but both players attacking was wrong. they should take responsibility for that.
Raddy, I think you’ll find I don’t accept his statements about Wenger profiteering from the club. You can refer back to yesterdays post to check if you wish to.
As for Harry’s tax case… the police didn’t have enough evidence of wrong doing to prosecute. Therefore he is innocent of any wrong doing… His job was to keep Pompey up, he did it. If he fucked the club in the process, that’s down to the board. David James claimed the reason they’re in the trouble they’re in is because of the contracts and the bonuses on offer for success.
Pedro: there was a book written a couple of years ago about the genetic and physical make-up of people of diff. ethnic origing in relation to sporting abilities. For example: since Alan Wells (olympic boycott year) there has not been a 100m champion who was not of east african ethnic origin.Lond distance, West African, Sudan, Kenya, Ethiopa. Weight lifters tend to be mid european. Swimmers are caucasian (lower bone density). Nearer your question, Asians are ideally suited to cricket, field hockey etc.
wengers either just plain attention seeking or trying to take the focus off the everton game
Song, why dont u analyze the squads of teams who win things. They have two first teams. Thats what all the players could bring us. Good Cover and we could play them against teams of their calibre, so our first choice players dont get injured, wornout, dipinform ETC….ETC…
sounds weird, but I am ready to take my chances with another manager. I find wenger so frustrating despite his undeniable genius.
Sharkey – You still here!
gazzap – I’m pretty sure it was a corner. One that got cleared by the first defender. Merida again proving he cant take corners like too many other Arsenal players.
all the players u mentioned. CANA more than a match for Feleni. K jones hold the ball up and links up admirably. a young CB is gonna have better strength, pace and concentration than Silvest.
Mickey, they are caucasion like white people. Surely there is no genetic disposition to football?
There should be at least one Pakistani or Indian footballer in the Prem. Like A&N said, they were some of the most skilful when growing up.
Man United to issue a bond sale to raise £500mill.
ramsey and denilson yes they were both poor on sat
the different between ramsey and denilson is quite clear
ramsey has had very good games for arsenal and denilson hasnt, but hey still got 5 years on that contract to run down so im sure in that time he can have a few
almunia is as shit as weve all known for some time
and eduardo at the moment is a waste of space and has been all year
Sorry if I misrepresented you Pedro. HR is my most loathed person in football and any defence of the twat makes my blood boil.
As to “whose”, may I recommend any English speakers to read Eats Shoots and Leaves by Lynne Truss. Entertaining read about punctuation (really!)
Pedro
Frying pan to fire
Pedro – the only 2 I can think of are Zesh Rahman(at Fulham a while back) and Michael Chopra(half caste) who was at one of the north east clubs also.
Mr B…
dont think we disagree to much..except for what really are good players ;…if i could buy Villa for 10-12M i would…Dzeko for 10M id have a go..but then again if i where offered berbatov for 30M..i would go bananas and kill the messenger.my point is simple..the premier will have to adjust to the new financial times ahead…every club will do it..but who will take the first step…which club will first lower the prive of a top notch player..and which club will take the front seat in pressing wages down..
its interesting anyways to see how the transfer market has changed…
BR
the Panda joke
Once upon a time all animals could speak and story happens at a wild west bar where animals of various hue are enjoying drink.
A furry looking animal enters and demands a drink, and a lunch.
Finishes the lunch and starts to leave.
The barman says Friend you forgot to pay.
The furry thing coolly draws a gun and fires and the bar man is dead.
At the door the thing says, names Panda, go look in the dictionary.
Just looked
Panda, animal of Chinese origin which eats shoots and leaves.
SongtheGreat, Agree its got to change otherwise in 10 years time the Premier League could well mirror whats happened to Italian Football, Then again some may see that as a good thing
A peep into the mind of a genius:
http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/32381/Wenger_New_deals_prevent_instability.aspx
Yes,like italy…. man utd will be found out and demoted for match fixing.
wow real plastic post , loved it ..
got the message ..
i think it might be a little above most heads who dont know geoff !
but at least you look good for the day mate !
polish the AKB badge …
today you might even get some regulars from ACLF join the ranks with that one
Arse&Nose…
not match fixing maybe?? but they are paying for added minutes …ask fergie..;
the post is high quality sarcasm!!!
nice one geoff…
Good post that Andy
song, even ESPN commentators dared to question 6mins of injury time for 3 subs and 1 goal.
I agree with Fergie about the need for injury time to be more transparent…but we cant have one law for Man utd and another for the rest.
Andy B
Thats what they did to Anelka
Thats what they did to 30 goals in a season Adebayor
.. and here they call our beloved Arsene Wenger names day in day out
i think people look at the great players that have come through arsenal and not one of them were house hold names viera overmas pires berdkamp henry flamani lumberg petit none these player were houshold names they become great players through time but in 14 years that wenger has been at this club he has never bought house hold names the back 4 he inhereted,so think i think people need to put the bed the mith that wenger ever brought in house hold names
im off…have a great day Grovers…
crikey!!
the daily mail are reporting today that Danny Fizman is undergoing treatment for a serious illness, sounds like cancer.
i dont think we’re gonna sign anyone.
we are not even link with any player right now. at least last year there was strong rumour that we are link with arshavin. this year we got nothing Nil, zero, zilch, zip, nada, diddly-squat!!!
anther thing is that the market has changed there no were near as many top players of quality of overmas petit viera edo any more and few that are will cost at least 20 mill i think that large part of the reason he has stock with delinson song and diaby etc 3-5 you could get these top players for 7-10 mill now its at least 20 mill
going back to an earlier discussion…
i totally concur, when i was growing up, the most skilful players i knew were also of a indian background.
its true they dont get the support to play on from their parents who prefer higher education.
Morning LG
Your post made me chuckle Geoff
Manure are £509M in debt, they are up in profits this year £46M including the sale of the winker…
Bet that doesn’t stop old Red Nose buying!!
The true debt is closer to £800m rico….
rico, i think it will… he needs to buy now more than ever, when he spent 30m on veron he had a great team already
now he has a very medicocre side in utd terms… they are issuing this bond because they are skintus.
hahaha…
if people thought geoff was funny today, this almost killed me:
http://www.arsenality.com/2010/01/sol-campbell-seeks-to-replace-phillipe.html?
Hi dennis, blimey, didn’t realise that, how come?
fergie is now coming out with ” prices are inflated , no value in the market ” statements
when did he ever moan about paying top dollar for a player?
answer: never.
leon,
I am afraid you people will have to seriously think about out sourcing football to India.
india is a huge market to export our game to… and unlike most of the world.. they are looted right up
Cotto – no, he just gets on with it regardless, maybe this will be the start of the manure fall?
I know we all want us to spend on quality players, thanks goodness we aren’t like them…
i believe so, rico
i think fergie will be gone this summer, i really do.. and i think he will cite the financial turmoil at the club as his primary reason to call it a day.
they need time and lots of money to be a force again.. they have neither under fergie.
Geoff, good post,although Wenger has read it and asked me to convey a message to you;
“Judge me in May (2011)”
Curious, is this january transfer market like domino, waiting for the first card knocked?
rico,
What would be wrong with being like UTD, i would love it if we had the balls to buy £30m players.
That will be Moyes next job then..
Maybe if Arsene goes he will say he had so much money to spend and didnt know what to do with it, he had sleepless nights
i think if the right player was on the market, wenger would splash it
if benzema was now available for around 25M.. he would go for him.
i think fergie will be gone this summer, i really do..
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I am really scared to death Wenger follows Fergie. No sane man can put up with the kinda abuse people shower on Le Grove.
No I am not sarcastish.
bnsb,
You are surely not serious with regards Ade the ego how the Fuck did the fans force him out ??? The blokes a class A prick have you seen his interview in todays Sun the part about him thinking the rebels were after him alone, Also how did they force Anelka out didnt he engineer is own move to Madrid??
gambon – i would prefer somewhere in the middle, not as tight as we are, but i wouldn’t like our club to be in as much debt as Manure are..
Hey rico!
Well there’s also the debt that the Galzers owe themselves as owners of ManUre, which i believe is in the region of £150m in itself, the club’s overall debt is in the region of £600m. So if the Septics wanna flog ManUre someone’s gonna have to cough up in the region of £750m.
The profit they make each year just about services the debts with nothing coming off of the lump sum, ’tis wonderful reading.
Chippy
sarcatish?
I wouldn’t mind putting up with a bit of cyber abuse for £6m a year, he must have sleepless night the poor fecker!
ddm
Read somewhere that they valued the dung at 1 billion
rico,
I agree about the debt, but UTD havent accrued any debt buying players. They have always spent within their means, unlike us.
We are like a rich businessman who lives in a tent in the woods.
on the whole he certainly does not get abuse, the majority in blog world still praise him for the job he has done over 14 years
some only look at him over the past few years.
dennis – do you think there is someone out there who is prepared to pay that much? Not only that, then he/she/the company have to pay a load more money for players…
Wonderful reading indeed
Hicks jnr has resigned from the dippers – oh dearie dear
Andy B I thought that was a very good post.
I still don’t think Denilson/Almunia are good enough but you’re right, when they pull on the shirt they should be supported by those in the ground.
I think we’re just frustrated because we all foresaw the current problems way back last summer and we do have funds to fix these problems.
And we can all see we’re a couple of good players away from being real title challengers. Add that to the presumption that we have the money its really hard to take at times. The development of a few players is being put before the amibition of the club as a whole and its agonising.
Cotto
If you have been here long enough, you should be familiar with Old Traffordish?
Luvely!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/manutd/5130064/Manchester-United-debt-soars-to-700m-despite-record-season.html
bnsb – Get the fuck outta here! Really?
Cotto
The war camp is very clearly divided between AKBs and the visionaries.
TBH bnsb, that £1bn valuation probably says more about the amount of debt they are really in than anything else.
bnsb.. i see… thankfully, the blog world in general lean towards one side of the debate.
ddm
Google our best friend
http://www.sportspromedia.com/notes_and_insights/_a/1_billion_only_a_fair_price_for_manchester_united_according_to_study/
Great tounge-in-cheek with that post geoff, enjoy the peroni’s!
Cotto,
Know what happens when the whole blog leans to far. Falls flat. Love Le Grove though, though the criticism is vicious at times.
Thanks all, thoroughly enjoyed the free time. Later.
as long as both sides get a fair hearing.. then its all good.
no matter which side you lean towards.. we are all gooners at the end of the day.
Berbatov £32.5m
man utd have a shit record in the transfer market.
Morning All and top of the world it is today.
I was reading the comments from 1 on until I got to Chris who doesn’t blame Coco for the goals conceded on Saturday.
Chris man take another look and especially in slo mo. The first goal for starters was a free header from a free kick. In dead ball situations the keeeper should direct all in front of him and even more so if the said person is Captain.
For a big guy Coco was getting bullied from that corner but obviously enjoyed a cuddle up with the Everton player, he wwas on his line again and rreally not that far away from the header that he couldn’t have attempted to make a save, but no Coco decided it was on target so it was in.
The second goal, well here goes. The defence were nowhere to be seen but was he screaming at them? NO.
There was a 1 on 1 as we all saw but Coco was on his knees before the shot was made, if the cunt stood up it would have hit him in the chest as it wasn’t even a great chip.
does anyone have a shots on target figure for Everton for all the chancees they had I bet there was less than 5 on target, yet our Keeeper keeps up the averagees as usual.
Shit Keeper always will be a shit Keeper.
veron 28.5M
A&N
I wish we had shit players that won the league 3 times in a row!
See what they will be like without Vidic too when he goes
I think Veron was a great player, just went to the wrong club
come on gambon, crack a smile mate
we are only 3 pts off the top of the league mate
we got some real fun on the way
cotto, how can i smile….im stuck at work!
The smile will come if we beat them Northern Thugs at the wkend!
Pedro I’d be very careful about defending Redknapp. I have it on good authority that he has partaken in the brown envelope in the past. Whether he still does, who knows, but looking at his repeated signings, Crouch, Defoe, it seems he has good relations with their agents.
I think he is not solely to blame for the demise of Pompey, but he has to carry a bit of the blame. Hopefully he can work his magic at Spurs.
fantastic post today well said,season over we should all go home now,maybe next year or the year after that,maybe just very maybe,Wenger has had his day fantastic up untill 2006 in the champs league that is,then as you say the rest is history………….
will be a tough game with a new manager at the helm…
but aint it fun to look forward to every game? every game is like a semi final or final now… its wonderful to be in this position…. really fighitng for the title.
and then… the champions league fun starts…. its great to be a gooner.
how can our worst player (almunia) be captain? its a disgrace, give it straight to Tommy V when fabs out
Pete, I think everyones heard a little something about Harry. The fact is, nothing has ever stuck… hear say isn’t enough to prosecute.
HMRC have started prosecutuion proceedings against him.
They only win the league because they are allowed to bully officials. From Gill bullying FA officials, Fergie bullying 4th officials for time, to players harranging refs to get penalties and opponents booked.
No other team is allowed to do this, so its no coincidence they win a lot.
and to figure out the game plan to play us is piss easy:
- target our shit ‘DM’
- pass the ball to Traore’s side
- cross the ball and ‘hope’ for that idiot in goal to make a hash of it
sorted…
Lol,
Conspiracy theory there A&N. I cant remember a single season in the last 15 where the best team didnt win the league
Less of the paranoia!
i always liked harry before he went up the road, such a shame.
dont really see how he can be to blame for pompey, one of his last signings diarra made them about 15m profit!!
gambon,
07/08? we missed out by 4 points and the refs robbed us of 5 points…
it was so obvious, it’s ridiculous…
Denilson was not the worst player on Saturday. Ramsey, Arshavin and Eduardo were all pathetic. Some of the sniping at Denilson is a bit unfair.
Our worst home performance this season. Absolutely rubbish. For most of the game we were clueless and gutless.
You can talk about finances, signings, this player, that player. At the end of the day – if we keep putting in BAD PERFORMANCES like that then we are fucked.
I do think we Arsenal fans see the big conflict being between the cash in the bank and Wenger’s stubborness in spending but ultimately, we shouldn’t forget that sometimes we play like a buch of tossers. Maybe the most important thing for the rest of this season is that we play well.
Very much one point gained. And a lucky point.
Suga,
What points were they.
Also go back through 38 games to see where we picked up points we didnt deserve, also go back through UTDs games to see where they were robbed of points.
If we were robbed why has Arsene never once mentioned it?
* obv i know the Birmingham pen wasnt a pen
Arsenal’s strikers CAN’T hold up the ball,the midfielders suffer because the ball is always coming backwards.
A&N – it suits the English FA to have their most successful team headed by a Brit manager with largely over priced English players in it. I reckon Arsenal – a team always disliked by the media due to their previous negative style of play – having a French manager was a reason to continue the dislike of Arsenal . I mean a frog as a manager! – it must be manna from heaven to anti Arsenal rag tops/Skysports etc.
Their must be someone out their who has some inside gossip or info on who may come in.
What sites can we trust ?
ibbs.. whose fault is that?
Big Dave
We really arent gonna do much business so i just dont think theres any inside info!
Try football rumours, thats always pretty accurate!
DDM… has a contact but the last time he said anything it wasnt very good news!
I really should state tho i really wouldnt want anyone else at the healm of our Great Club he does do my nut in on occasions but although stubborn hes a Top quality manager,
I just shudder to think if we had someone like Benitez or ‘Arry as our manager….*nightmares*
The bad news I got yesterday was no news about buying the GK,CH,DM and a tall CF that we desperately need and – worst of all – Denilson would be fit for our next match!!! We have 3 away games coming up fast – Bolton,Stoke and Villa – unless we can get Fabregas and Bendtner back fast – we will be stuck with the formation that we had last saturday – we will almost certainly lose those 3 games and then we have Manu at home!!!! We must buy some players this month – otherwise our season will be over as far as trophies are concerned. So it will be another season of just fighting for a CL spot.
Did anyone else bump into the Gobby Scallies after the game in the pubs around Highbury & Upper Street?
What a deluded bunch they are. Living in the past.
My source has come back with zero at the mo.
says has heard nothing at all
Hope Rooney is injured by the time we play them, we owe them one big time
gambon,
Brum and their dodgy penalty is 2 points, I think the game where Ade scored a goal wrongly ruled for offside is another game (can’t remember if we lost one or two in that one) and can’t remember the third game…
It was so obvious, I was fuming…
and what games did we win undesrvedly in that season?
Lads,
Disappointing – of course, season destroying = no.
Lets wait for the window to end, more importantly, for those of you who are keen to see a managerial change, the morning of February 8th will be an ideal time to begin formulating your opinon.
Lets club together and support what we have (poor as some of it maybe) and see were we are come May.
Disbanding and factions amongst fans, midway through a season that could ultimately be very very sucessfull doesnt seem too smart in my opinion.
Was very pleased with the crowd on Saturday – nice to suck in a goal. Almost nicked a winner – shame Arshavin was wasteful!
bnsb
The war camp is very clearly divided between AKBs and the visionaries.
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more like divided between delusional and realistic …
with history to back the realistic crowd i doubt the delusional’s will have a leg to stand on ..
but thats ok because they wont believe it anyhow … there delusional after all
gunner90 you’re scaring me!!
bolton, stoke and villa away.. fack.. and what about the fixtures after that!!
Manu, chavs and pool!!!
No disrespect to fergie but he has done his part. he used what he had to get what he wanted and about twenty trophies later. Man U have him all to thank.
Bendnter might be back in 2 weeks time, but how long will it take for him to reach his match fitness, could be weeks, and will he score shed load of goals in that time.
Bolton
Villa
Stoke
Man ure
All hard matches, Come back Song, quick
Gunner90,
A transfer activity never happens on a Sunday. The only way a player can be bought on Sunday is if the fee has been agreed & transfered and a medical has already taken place before Sunday.
This is the reason that this January window is closing on Monday 1st February 2010.
its typical that we have such a hard run of fixtures at a time when the team looks like its been stretched beyond breaking point. I dont think we’ll cope without Song or Bendtner. We need some power from somewhere.
Choy,
don’t be scared, mate. We’re playing ManU & Pools at home. Hopefully, by the end of January, we’ll have most of our injured players back in the starting XI and a new face up front would give us the edge to kill off games…
Afternoon all.
First of all Raddy, my claims are not unsubstantiated, Arsene Wenger said in a TV interview, his salary was linked to whether Arsenal made profits, he also said said his deal was fairly unique, he said the more Arsenal made, the more he did.
I wouldn’t call that unsubstantiated would you?
Secondly I get sick of people dredging up the loan, we’ve been here what 5 years, and we still have a £250 million loan, according to some, interesting, we spend fuck all, make shed loads but still owe the same as we did 5 years ago.
I would like some of the know alls to explain that one to me.
gazzap
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Your right we need some power – especially for Stoke.
Interesting thing re: Coyle / Bolton, will he try get them playing footbal with only a weeks woth of training sessions or will he have Bolton playing to their obvious hackball strengths?
Think it will be a good time to play them, and a must win game.
Suga
An un-named Ade offside goal, I think youre stretching it!
If you looked at every incident in every game that season, and corrected them all im pretty sure the league runs out the same.
We lost the league because we crumbled under pressure of expectation.
Gunners … bolton and villa away are going to be tough games.. 6 points in the balance! that is even before the crucial 9 pointer against the old top four!
Inflated transfer market… hmmm I’m sure wenger had nothing to do with that…
what about the 40 mill city paid us!
He can sell, but wont buy! hehe
Geoff…
I know that I have not studied the annual report as arduously as yourself, however, with the Highbury developments losing money / failing to meet projections – more capital was required to maintain liquidity.
Despite being set up independently from arsenal fc’s finances, would it not make, good financial sense, to alleviate the money from a very profitable arm of a MNC (the football club) to manage the balance sheet of a function that is underperforming?
This obviously happening at a time when the capital markets were effectively dry, and any available funding would have come at an astronomical cost.
Now, I don’t have figures from the report to substantiate this, but instead im trying to assess logically why the promised funds may not have been made available to Wenger.
dead right geoff
im sure the debt is being reduced like crazy …
it had better !
we have to deal with mediocrity because of it .
Gazzap,
Stretched beyond breaking point??? Are you alright, mate? We got 16 points out of a possible 18 in December. We draw one game against a team who came at the Grove to prove a point and this team suddenly becomes stretched.
We came back from losing 1-3 to drawing 2-2 in the injury time. Ok, we didn’t play at the level we had expected us to play but let’s not jump the gun after just one bad result which if we look at it wasn’t that bad in the conditions the game was played in.
gambon,
I remember that very clearly – Ade was in offside position, but the ‘pass’ was made by the opposition player – I was pissed off, as the same goal had stood in one of the cups just 3 days to a week earlier…
and the game was against one of the newcomers, if that helps…
Wenger allways says that the players are too expensive, yet when do actually sign for another team the fee is much less then 1st said.
You will see Dzeko sign for around £15mill in the end for another club not 20+ being branded about at the mo
GTS,
er…
how exactly do you come back from 1:3 to 2:2?
and we had a DM in December, not some accident waiting to happen…
g.t.s that result was very bad it certainly put’s us out of winning the league now,chelsea won’t drop as many points as they did in the second half of the season
Now, I don’t have figures from the report to substantiate this, but instead im trying to assess logically why the promised funds may not have been made available to Wenger.
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well dont just study this year !
or the last year ,or the one before that .. or the one before that ….
you get the picture ..
he never spends he has a history of being a developer of talent , not a buyer of it ..
or so he would like you to believe ..
It really is ground hog day…
Why do people make inaccurate excuses for Wenger not buying?
The MD has clarified there is plenty of money to spend from just profits alone, not to mention the sale of Kolo and Ade!
Finances hindering us is a dead argument.
God theres a lot of disalusioned people in here!
Honestly – why any Arsenal fan would ever beleive that Wenger is gonna spend billions just astounds me.
When has it ever happened!!
One draw, and suddenly we are shit again. Bit of perspective i think…
Another thing they do talk the most bollocks on a.c.l.f don’t they,proper mugs who run that site…
Choy,
I’m not worried about Bolton. That should be 3 points in the basket already.
The next four games where we need 8-10 points minimum,
Villa – 3 but 1 in the worst case scenario
ManU – 3 points if we catch them on the day (6-pointer)
Chavs – 1 minimum but 3 would be bonus (6-pointer)
Pools – 3 points would be an icing on the cake.
If we go through these 4 games smoothly, then the title will be in sights…
Firstly to put to be the constant talk of Highbury dragging our finances down, heres Gazidis speaking 3 days ago;
“There were a lot of questions when I came in 12 months ago about Highbury Square [the property development on the site of Arsenal’s former stadium], but we have made tremendous progress with that and it’s fairly clear that we’re going to make a profit from it”
Secondly Geoff
Re The stadium repayments. We have to pay roughly £20m pa, of which £15m is interest & £5m is principle, these figures will change throughout the life of the loan. So we still owe about £245m, as we’ve paid £3m 3 years running.
The total cos of the stadium is £20m PA, the cost of Highbury is nothing, as it is making profits, or will be soon.
Its not an issue of finances. Its an issue of getting the right player.
Whats the point in buying a player that wont be able to get into the team when everyone is fit? 2 or 3 weeks of happiness?
This is real life, not Football Manager.
3 points should of been in the bag against everton,but they weren’t
So no more “we are restricted financially” cos we couldnt be less restricted if we won the lottery every week!
Tom
Denilson has played 64 games in the last 18 months, do you honestly think we cant find a better player anywhere in the world with our scouting network!??!
Tom, don’t be a hypocrite…
Let’s not pretend you’ve been the beacon of positivity
i agree this year is not to do with financial constraints.. we have the money
as tom points out, the right players are not available.
Cescs because Arsenal tell porkies all the time about the debt.
If any of it was anything like they bleat about, why do it in the first place, Highbury was paid for.
Why did we need to move, since we did we’ve spent fuck all and our manager says we shouldn’t.
Yet when we first moved, he said in order to compete with the chavs and mancs, we need to move.
He can’t have it both ways can he!
Lol, Toms been busted!
SUGA,
Remember Denilson going down, and Everton got through our defence. They nearly scored a goal but Everton player didn’t have the confidence to finish the game, hence hit the ball straight to Almunia.
Tell me your heart didn’t come to mouth when that happened. At 1-3, there wouldn’t be any comeback…
EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
i hope a lot more are busted come the end of the season
as it will mean we won something
They also tell lies about the attendances aswell
BBK, the attendances have always been on tickets sold.
BBK – all clubs now give attendance figures against sold as opposed to actually attended.
tax reasons….
Gambon, of course there are better players in the world than Denilson.
Signing a player isnt as simple as clicking a few ‘Offer Bid’ buttons.
Also, bare in mind Arsenal are not a top tier club, dont offer massive wages, dont offer over 30s more than one year deals, etc etc, then it becomes clearer.
Would a 28 year old in his prime want to come to Arsenal knowing that in 2 years time his time is finished at the club, no matter how well he does? of course not.
And if there’s so many players, tell me ONE thats available.
Also, the biggest point you fail to address. What happens to our best player this season when he’s back? Do you drop Song? Do you bollocks.
Denilson is a second choice player, that plays more games because of the frailty of our midfield.
We cannot attract a player like De Rossi to play second fiddle to Song.
BBK, no point arguing with you, mate. You would still be writing us off even if we were 10 points clear at the top. So keep your opinion to yourself and find someone as negative as you to get them agree with you…
Mancscummers have not been the best team these past 3 seasons. The Chavs have been better than theem and we were too in 2007.
They cheat by all means.
1. Since Gill was appointed they have won the League every year before that they were also rans.
2. They get penalties for non challenges. Winker V Boro a couple of years ago. He was untouched but thee Media said the intent was there?
3.They neveer concede penalties at home, about 3 in 15 years. I believe we should have had at least 1 this season.
4. The Manager can criticise Referees at will and get a slapped wrist time after time after time. Oh and while I mention time, he dictates how many minutes are played.
5. Their drug taking players get suspended but why don’t they. The Rio affair was their responsibility.
6.The Manager geets all his protegees and Jock mates to gang up on us and he tells them to hack at us as we are Southern softies who don’t like it up em. They then mention quite brazenly that they will get stuck in etc etc.
7. Wenger and the other foreigner Benitez certainly do complain about them but are just called moaners or we are told they lost the mind games.
8. Players like Scholes can foul at will unpunished and its because he is a poor tackler yet Vieira etc are dirty bastards.
I can go on and on but lets just stick with this for now.
they used to be able to get away with saying only 30,000 attended when 45,000 were crammed in… so less to disclose to the revenue.
Im not claiming to be the brightest light!
I dont think we’ll win the title because we dont have the mental capacity.
Throwing your toys out of the pram after one draw and crying because we dont sign £40m players is just pathetic.
nah g.t.s i wouldn’t be as negative if we were ten points clear because that would indicate to me that we had a much better team
Tom we’re not shit, read my post.
Wenger is saying he will only buy if he can find better, if he can’t find better than Almunia, Fish head and Denilson, perhaps he should borrow your football manager game you talk about all the time.
Tom, Behrami.
You don’t click a button, you pick up the phone, offer them a cut price deal and take him.
He then fits into something called a ‘squad’ and fights for his place with the rest of them.
We’re a top tier club who pay top tier wages. Our players aren’t with us for the charity. We didn’t get a £100mill wage bill by being frugal.
Fiszman being ill at present wonder he will sell up
Finance wise we are in a much healthier state then a couple of year ago.
Don’t give your profit to the tax man, use it and spend it on the squad
tom, i think its just the way this blog is.. its a good thing to get differing views.. stops delusion.
some arsenal blogs are very optimistc and only paint a rosey picture… and forget the bad points
some the opposite
its nice to take a look into both worlds.
Pedro.
We dont pay top wages.
Check your facts, cos thats utter bullshit.
Tom, no ones doing that, you just made that up.
Looks like you threw your toys out the pram ages ago… comparing our title defence to Spurs…
Tom we’ve been saying the same all season, not after one game, you should read more posts, stop spending all your time on football manager.
tom, mate, we do
we have the 2nd highest wage bill
Well, without being cynical, I can’t imagine us taking full points against Aston Villa, ManU, Chelsea and Pool. That’s simply not realistic.
We need to win the games, like the one we tied this weekend. So for all of you happy people, it is not a matter of completely loosing faith, it’s about being irritated that once again this team is found lacking.
haha! Of course we don’t! That’s why Robin signed up again and Cesc hasn’t left… for the love!
Jeez… you show me that we pay poorly. I’ve got the annual report on my side.
Look, I cannot stand Almunia, he will cost us points, Denilson is the most frustraing player to watch in history and Silvestre is just shocking.
But they are Arsenal players. Wenger isnt going to just kick them out of the club like some might do.
Face the facts that we rarely sign players, and the team is not a realistic title contender and its much more enjoyable as an Arsenal fan.
We are punching above our weight, so enjoy it while it lasts, cos in two weeks we’ll be in the battle for 4th with City Spurs and Villa.
… and Tom. The salaries on Football manager don’t count as fact.
So £60k a week for Theo isn’t top, £90k for Ade isn’t top, and £100k a week for Gallas, what’s that shit wages?
Get a grip Tom and stop playing football manager.
Cotto. We DONT pay high wages. We have a massive wage bill because all of our current players are on around 40,000 a week. Thats how we attract youngsters.
We dont pay anything like top wages compared to the worlds biggest clubs.
tom, thats wrong…. we are in a realistic title battle.
utd and pool will have the struggle for 4th… just look at their squads in 2 years time
and look at ours.
Followed by…
Hmmm… so the jist seems to be, don’t call us shit after one result, accept we’re shit all along?
Pedro – Dont take my word for it. Look at the facts from Arsenal holdings PLC. Its easily available.
Some simple maths for you too.
High wage bill – Check
No one on plus 80k per week – check
Wheres the rest go sherlock?
Make the most of what Tom, drawing with the team we beat 6-1 in August?
Stop playing football manager, this is the real world.
tom where does it state nobody over 80k?
If a new manager came in tomorrow, he would wave goodbye to
Almunia
Denilson
cotto as much as it will pain you united will always be above us since the prem has begun bar a few years they have more often then not finished above us you should be used to it by now
cesc is surely on over 100k
big dave,and the rest..
Pedro the gist is that we are not a bad side but not as good as chelsea.
beleive what you like pal. I go every match and see the side as is, thats one that is fairly fragile, and great to watch. Title contenders though? Nah. we’re too weak mentally to deal with any challenges we have.
Doesnt make us shit, doesnt make us great. We’re 3rd/4th best in the league.
BBK – they had buckets of cash to spend back then… they dont now.
Tom, we pay huge wages, simple as that.
No Cotto he is not.
He signed his seven year contract 3 years ago.
Him and RVP are the top earners on around 80 – 85k per week.
Like i have already said before. We dont pay anything like top money when compared to City, Barca, United, Chelsea etc.
they don’t now,and there still above us…
Yes, a huge wage BILL.
We pay shitloads to Denilson etc.
Fuck me, do you ever read or listen to what Wenger says Gambon? Have you ever heard him talk about wage structure or do you just beleive what you like
game in hand, BBK
Tom, you’ve taken the facts from where?
We’ve got the second highest wage bill in the Prem. I don’t need to give you a break down of who gets what, all you need to understand is that Arsenal players are here for the money just as much as anything else.
There is no way in the world Cesc & RVP are on less than £100k, not a chance in hell.
But we pay more to watch than the Mancs and the Chavs, we deserve some respect and finishing 4th every year is taking the piss.
it would be interesting to get a real view on how much they are on…. not sure there is a defintive way of finding out? is there?
What they lack in a basic salary, they make up in performance pay and bonuses.
What is wrong with you lot?
Why are you all so down on the side for drawing against Everton?
Yes – we beat them 6-1. Do you not think that Moyes may have had them revved up for the match simply because of that?
I bet half of you go through the fixture list just counting 3 points against everyone except united and chelsea, then get arsey when we dont live up to expectations.
take next weekend for example. I thouroughly expect us to draw at Bolton. A win would be a simply massive result, but i doubt we’ll get it.
Of course there’s a wage structure, Cesc gets the most, followed by Gallas, followed by RvP etc.
Do you think Cesc stays because of his love for Wenger then??? Ha, ha, how sweet.
Tom
Find me one time where Wenger said “Cesc is on £80k” i would love to read that.
Geoff….
I hear what your saying, but, is it completley unreasonable to assume that the Highbury developments, despite being an indivually subsidary, saturated more profit from AFC than expected?
I think Wenger will start signing bigger names / ready made players, I also think this is his first window were decent money has been available.
He hasnt always been about bargains – Hoddle, Klinsmann, Weah, Hatley, Pires, Henry, Wiltord, Reyes etc – all pricey players in their respective era’s.
So what did Wenger say Tom, they’re revved up for this one, lets let them draw.
geoff,what would you say has been the most costly signings wenger has made during his time ie,transfer fees
Tom
Whos getting Arsey?
Theres a difference between getting Arsey & making you look like a fool.
We are only doing one of the above!
Pedro im a shareholder so i have access to some data from the club when they release information with regard to fiscal stability.
Thats where i get the wage info from. Im not just making it up as you seem to beleive.
And to confirm to you boys, NO ARSENAL PLAYER is on more than £100k a week.
Thierry Henry is the only player to ever break the £100k barrier for us.
Tom, why are you digging out people for moaning about Everton when your expectation of the season is no better than 3rd or 4th?
That’s a really negative attitude… and even more ridiculous because you’re moaning about other people being negative?
Don’t we have the third highest wage bill, or has that changed now ?!
Tom, don’t talk bollocks.
Geoff is a shareholder, so I get passed on all the same data you do.
Gambon, put your money where you mouth is and become a shareholder and you might find out.
Or you can be a loud mouth forum man.
Up to you really.
Cescs I’ve said that a million times. About players.
Don’t forget though, what we don’t sell now, we’ll sell later, for a fucking lot more too.
Anyone think that Wenger believes Almunia will do an ‘Alex Song’ and turn out to be the new ‘Iker Casillas’ next year?
Did anyone see Angola v Mali game last night in ACN? The game ended 4-4 but it was full of drama. Angola were 4-0 with 10 mins to go and Mali still managed to scored 4 in the last 10 min + injury time to draw the game. I didn’t watch it myself but read the report on BBC website this morning.
Keyser, probably the 4th now City are involved.
Yes Pedro, im talking complete bollocks, and RVP and Cesc are both on 150k a year, along with the rest of them.
Have a word.
150k a week even!
Or Gambon, you could make up the info you get and pretend to be a shareholder.
Tom I have never seen anything that says what players are paid individually, don’t talk rubbish.
is there any way this can be proved, tom?
it owuld be interesting to view the real facts.. as most of us here are just guessing what they are on.
sam,do bears shit in the woods
Tom, why don’t you fax me over a copy of what ever your shares allowed you to gain access to?
Geoff…..
Sorry didnt address all your points, in order to be at the forefront of the ever changing landscape of football, a huge stadium was required.
It will no longer be an advantage, rather than a pre-requisite.
We are just 10 years ahead of everyone else!
Fax… jeez… middle ages here… scan it and mail it to the info address.
No you dont see anything of induvidual stats. As ive already stated.
Look, its not fucking rocket science is it. We have a big wage bill, but no one is on plus 100k a week.
Work that out yourself its not hard.
Sam he already is, haven’t Real put in a bid?
…no? Oh well, maybe in the summer.
Tom
You will never get that info as a shareholder. You are lying, rather pointless.
Pedro – send me your email and i will.
ok just seen the fact’s cesc get’s a tenner for his trouble’s and gallas and v.persie are on minimum wage,all for the love of arsenal
Gambon, yes i am lying. You dont receive ANY financial information when you buy shares in a company.
It’s in the side bar…
Sam, don’t know about Almunia doing a ‘Song’. He is approaching 33 and doesn’t have much time left. On the other hand, I do expect Fabianski to come good and become a great stopper if given a chance…
and what dyou want me to send?
Heh, dammit, it’s well annoying scrolling back through hundreds of posts on your phone.
“In order to deal with the crippling debt at Old Trafford”
“Without the world record sale of Ronaldo, the Red Devils would have been reporting a loss of £31.8million pounds, a situation that clearly is unsustainable over the long term”
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5852894,00.html
A good day for mocking success vs debt..and those who try to balance the two..??
Why is everyone picking on Tom ? Why can’t we just all share.
Cescs, mark my words, in a few years time no fuck will have a problem going to an Arsenal game.
Waiting lists will be a thing of the past, just like they are for golf clubs.
In 1990 I was 2 and a 1/2 years on the waiting list to become a member of Wentworth, I then had to play 18 holes with a committee member then be interviewed by a panel.
Now, I could pay my money and join straight off, no problem.
Tom, don’t play games.
We said our wage bill was X amount… you then intimated you had the inside track on player salaries because you’re a shareholder. I’d like to see the inside track… because as far as I know, you only get the annual report.
Shut up Keyser or we’ll pick on you.
Tom send the bit where you know what the players all earn, that bit.
Of course Sharkey, success only comes at the expense of debt.
United aren’t in trouble for buying expensive players, they’re in trouble because their owners screwed them by putting the cost of buying them onto the club.
They were hugely successful and profitable before the Glazers.
Andy B make a new positive blog le grove has become too negative even when we win they r -ve
Pedro
defending HR all along
UTAKA NUGENT 13m pounds at 80 grands a week,
gr8 news for u Pedro
and Geoff(article not funny)
Hatem Ben Arfa 40m pounds
Kenwyne Jones 28m pounds
than poor Denilson 128m pounds
u really need a coach’s batch you two(G nd P) than we will have a level playing field Leeds United ,Southampton ,Portsmouth, Liverpool, ManU err.. Arsenal ??
Can we not just move back to Highbury at least we can all be Grumoy in a proper Ground saying that tho we used to buy the occasional player when we were there
But would you rather wenger spend the most of the dosh now he has at it his disposal, but yet come the summer time we may not have that many funds available for bigger name players
Kushagra, come back when you’ve run that through a translator…
i firmly believe.. if the right player is available, we will sign him.
Big Dave, £7mill for Behrami now plus a nice £50k a week contract for Sol… maybe a striker, Adriano for free.
We’d still have plenty come the summer and probably wouldn’t need it.
Dave we don’t buy big name players in the summer, unless you count Vermaelen, Hleb and Nasri, over 3 years.
Hey we do sell them though, Henry, Ade and Kolo.
Geoff…
Sadly that’s the nature of the beast – I have grown up with the modernisation of football, and have no first hand experience of when the game was followed by gentleman, with the badge and colours meaning more than merchandise sales and season ticket allocation.
However to remain at the fulcrum of competitivness, appealing to the masses, and increasing availability of season tickets is the only way to go (might mean I will get mine quicker!)
I hope you burried your commitee member 10&8!
that means u didn’t needed one
Intresting how Jack Wilshire was not on the bench for the Everton game.
injured
Grumpy even lol
‘need’ Kushagra.
… and yes, I did need one. It looked like a 4 year old wrote it.
10 days hamstring
The manager confirmed the team news announced on Arsenal.com on Thursday with Tomas Rosicky set to return against Everton. However, one new name has been added to the injury list.
“Compared to the squad who was available against Bolton, we just have Rosicky back,” said Wenger, “but Jack Wilshere out with a small hamstring problem.
“We do not think it is a very big [problem].”
Is Behrami a step up or is he equal to what we have . I think Gago will be relatively cheap and will do well but needs to get to EPL speed I guess, again I think Scott Parker would be best option for us in midfield but ya sign up Sol.
Rocky, if he can do well for West Ham, imagine what he could do in a decent team with a great coach?
pedro
that means u didn’t needed one
again as u r too troubled a fellow filled with pessimism
cant see clearly enough
Hatem Ben Arfa £40m
Kenwyne Jones £28m
dats where we are heading
Kushagra, it’s ‘need’.
I don’t understand what you’re saying?
Kenwyne Jones for £28mill and Arfa for £40mill?
What relevance does that point have?
Pedro – they ‘d have £80m less debt if they hadn’t bought Berba, Anderson, Nani, and Tosic.
Those four really add a lot to that team !
dat what happens when Geoff attempts sarcasm
Sharkey, are you trying to minus players over 2 and a half years from their current loss?
Look what they achieved in the last few years. If the Glazers weren’t there, they’d be reporting huge profits with those signings.
Pedro
dat means we have no players of d right value nd quality in this window
you never know… there could be a striker at the ACN who does a job and we sign him up.
If we can find one its gr8 otherwise there’s no need of negativity umpteenth time u right mate
Geoff – Heh, pick on me if you want, not much of a challenge.
Ya I like Behrami Pedro but is he able to play CDM and will he just be another competing with Ramsey and Cesc. I think your assured a good solid player in Parker who’s hungry for sucess and will hold the midfield trio together bringing experience and solid mentality.
… and Sharkey, you seem to be more interested in the financial side of United. Shouldn’t it be about what happens on the pitch?
the financial side of any club deepply affects what happens on the pitch.
Pedro
nd thanx for correcting my english mate
i always thought u were optimistic than Geoff
Seriously Pedro,
who is this ‘K India’ guy?? Coming here on Le-Grove, talking nonsense and butchering English Language??
Stunners, no one likes to see numbers used to spell words, no one I tell thee!
its as simple as this..if we dont buy better players we wil finish 3rd again. its inevitable. Wegner has built a competitive team but I hope Kronke and Gazidis listen to others and enforce buying a few marquee players. If its the same again then expect season tickets for next season to be passed over. Either way the board can decide if they are a football club or an accounting firm interested in profit. The fans will let you know shortly. be sure of it. we have had nearly 5 years of budget football on the world most expensive match tickets. whos fooling who.
Right, I’m off to do some work.
gunners.. i have a strong suspicion our friend may have indian as his first language.
lets give him a break.. he is making an effort.. and a better effort than some whose mother tongue is anglais.
Amen, Pedro…
Why oh why oh why are we talking about finances???? We are in great financial shape. Fact. We have money to spend as Gazidis has previously pointed out. Fact. Its Wenger’s refusal to use it to sign star quality. Fact. Its because he wont admit defeat in project youth. Fact.
I see I’m still being hated on
you should have fucking hand balled it
FACT!
Thanks Keyser, but I was just shitting you mate!
If I had the energy and could think of all that then surely passing it to Sicknote who was just next to me was an even better option…
Denilson, no one hates you mate, we just think you are rubbish at playing football.
Sure Cotto, Le-Grove is for everyone regardless of what their first, second or third languages are…
K India, my apologies if I disrespected you, didn’t mean to do that. A cyber hand-shake…
Was in pain FFS!
Geoff; liking the post, your words speaks for me and likely lots of others. I can’t see any players coming in, or, am I being too negative in my thinking??? I was at the Emirates on Saturday, must say it was quite surreal to watch the players through the snow, as for Almunia…… I heard several pundits on the radio when driving to the tube station on the day, discussing Almunia and saying that he’s a no 2 keeper, never a no 1, and that Arsenal should go after that Russian keeper or Lorris (? french) who are both quality keepers. I suppose a defensive midfielder and striker is now out of the question then with Denilson/Bendner coming back? How bloody depressing this Monday is turning out to be…….
United don’t bother me…but these models of footie clubs ‘recklessly chasing dreams’ is concerning.
I’m glad we’re well off out of it.
Our current model will sooon have other clubs queuing up to cdopy t…if they aren’t already.
Grow your own players who understand how you play, add occasional signings, ignore ravings of mad fans who claim to know better.
Geoff,Pedro how highly do you rate Behrami?
Thanks Skandi, if only Wenger listened to your radio station!
cotto
thanx mate my i think english is alright as i have cleared gre nd ielts but i think i need a better control on my fingers on dis 19th century keyboard
My first language is Hindi
78692 I don’t really know him mate, no opinion, but Remi Garde would suit me, anyone!
Sharkey
u r a champ mate
totally agreed sharkey, in the coming years.. as more and more clubs who chased the leveraged con job dream fuck up.. and the billionaries dry up
one club and its model will shine like a beacon.
I just hope that wenger’s vision is shared by fabregas, if he leaves we are set back another 2-3 years
choy, i really do think cesc loves this club.. nothing shines through more than the way he celebrated goals like the milan winner.. with tears in his eyes… the villa free kick in recent times was a real show of his true feelings.
Sharkey, does it work? Has it delivered success yet? I don’t think so…
It’s expensive to run and it’s fundamentally flawed.
The scheme only works for Arsenal because we nick other teams players they’ve grown. If we couldn’t do that, where would it be? Jack Wilshere… Eastmond? All very much maybes.
All our model has done is pushed to cost of kiddie wages up.
choy – without the EPL or the CL I’m absolutely sure he will leave in the summer.
Taig………
Wenger doesnt sign star quality because of his stubborness to accept a failure in project youth.
Who shat in your cereal.
Last two windows – £25 million spent on two players. Both oozing quality.
If he makes another quality signing this window and in the summer will you retract that statment as nonense, or, purely for securtiy reasons would you rather see £20 million players come in now, just for the sake of it and to appease fans like you?
As has been said many a time, if the player and quality is right, we will sign him.
Why have knee jerk, long terms solutions to short term problems? Because you dont spend £20 mill on a short term player.
Dont get me wrong, I think there are many solutions out there, some chucked around on here are pretty appealing – but signning Dzeko, Matuidi for a combined £40 million just wont happen.
Cotto, yes but he is a player, he has only a couple of years to win things as compared to a fan.
78692, I really rate him. Quick, a good passer, tenacious and powerful. Plus, he’s done his trekking round Europe, he’ll be looking at his next club as one to settle on.
it has worked to a degree.. we are the only club who have self funded ( via loans ) a new stadium and met the costs associated with it on a ongoing basis whilst remaining near the summit of the league and omnipresent in the CL.
Fabregas should not be allowed to leave unless Wenger follows him.
Hope we sign Joe Hart
And United, of course.
Their big gripe is that they too are funded by loans.
choy, fab has another decade at top level football.
another 2-3 seasons with us imo.
Hope we sign Joe Hart….
Gunners The Stunners
mate u were right I butchered the language,
but i think i have every right to do so after seeing AVATAR(Hindi word),
and I tried to write down my hatred for HR and that was the result
That model is working really well for Middlebrough….
Cotto, ManU only have debt because of the owners. They didn’t get into the shit buying up expensive players.
Liverpool tried to chase the dream and got fucked because of loans to buy the clubs.
City and Chelsea we have to live with.
Arsenal picked up £250mil worth of debt on a new house…
behrami is top draw, all my west ham season ticket holder mates rave about him, more than parker and upson and whoever else the press mention.
it’d be like getting flamini back without the complications.
… and Bayern Munich who gave it up.
They’re falling down the league quicker than a fat man on a see-saw.
Parker is far too injury prone.
If a kid joins academy around 8 – 10, then I’ll say it takes about 10 years before making it to the first team.
We’ve only been focusing on this model for the past 6 – 7 years. It is way too early to say it doesn’t work.
Simon, that fella is top class, should’ve included him in with the deal for ade and toure
Funny that, I remember Liverpool in the 70′s and 80′s, they bought the best players that money could buy and chased the dream, they won title after title and always attracted the best players, Keegan, Dalglish, Barnes, fuck me the list goes on, they always got first choice too, it never seemed to affect them though.
Leeds went completely mad, Portsmouth had Harry to fuck them up and Benitez is doing his best at the new Pool, but I don’t see many others going tits up, the spuds haven’t, not to mention Newcastle, Madrid, Barca, Milan, Inter, Bayern etc.
I think Wenger has made some of you believe his illusion, I don’t.
yes pedro, but we have something to show for our spend..and something that will help pay it off organically and the produce ridiculous organice funds for the club.. for decades to come.
the same is not true of utd and pool.
pool are already suffering and will not make the CL
middelsbrough had the worst manager in the league and brought total shit players
Was that Jimbo I just saw there ?!
Denilson, then it works… the kids decides he’s bored as he’s been working in the same place for 6-7 years, then goes somewhere else.
You never get these players in their prime.
yeah joe hart is top draw, englands next long-term number 1 no doubt
as a club moving forward we are fucking sorted.
Cesc
And how much did we make in player sales in them 2 windows????
If you raise £40m and spend £25m you havent spent a penny, youve made money.
Why are we still making profits every transfer window when we are minted?
What is Wenger’s Illusion exactly ?!
Cotto,
United have several league titles and a Champions League trophy ‘to show for their spend’. Lest we forget.
gambon, i think its not a bad thing we are making a profit.. would you be happier if we made a loss?
Cescs – “As has been said many a time, if the player and quality is right, we will sign him.”
Vermaelen (who I presume you are talking about) does not fit that bill. Is he a good player? Yes. Has he solved the problem we have from conceding goals at set pieces? No. I don’t believe he was the ‘right’ player. I’m glad we have him but we also need another CB that CAN solve our problem.
£25m spent. £50m made. He should spend the money if and when he can improve the team. Would have buying Shay Given for £6m improved this team. of course it fucking would! Would buying a player like Hazard (or any other decent wide right man) for around £10m have improved this team. Yes.
The fact remains that he does too much of one thing – project youth – and not enough of the other – buying established quality. I don’t want us to do City and buy a whole new team. I want Wenger to spend some of the money he has available on bringing in quality players that can have an immediate impact on our season. Players that can guide the younger generations in the right direction. No wonder Song has taken so long too get to where he is…..who the fuck did he have to learn from??
yup to true jimbo.
i am confident the coming decade with what foundations have been laid with the stadium, young squad and talent conveyor belt (academy).. over the past 5 years
will bear beautiful sweet fruit
When I suggested buying Joe Hard it was during the under 21′s, I think he was behind Scmheical and Given at the time, and he would have been cheap, not us, we preferred two Poles and an Eyetie.
I know I’ve spelled Jasper’s name wrong!
Of course it’s way too early to see if it’s worked or hasn’t, it took Barcelona the best part of two decades to get to where they are now.
We’ve just got to work on all other aspects of the club as we go along now, which we are doing.
Pedro,
I understand your concern and I agree with Sharkey as well. Our youth model seems to be taking longer to deliver us a trophy but it doesn’t mean it’s flawed. I know that every gooner including me & you wants a trophy right now and we might witness something very special in coming months & years.
Re: ManU’s debt situation, I do believe that it will be the main cause if Sir Red Nose decides to call it a day in near future.
Re: Chavs’s situation, I don’t see Abrahmowich very excited about his club winning only 2 FA cups in the last 3 seasons. He spent zillions of pounds to get one trophy he craves for i.e. Champions League. If chavs don’t win CL in the next 2-3 season, does anyone see him still as the owner of Chavs? I really doubt so.
The day we win a trophy or two with this team will show the whole Europe not only England what Arsenal really are all about. We’re in for an exciting decade and hopefully, it’s going to be our decade…
Pedro, I think it a very unlikely situation a player 18-20, just starting a professional career in a club he loves, will leave because of boredom. Rarely, if ever.
Opportunities and money are the only two motivations that can persuade them. At Arsenal, we should be able to offer them both if they’re good enough.
I hope you’re right, Cotto – but I fear Wenger has taken us as far as he can.
That is, the constant cycle of re-building and re-structuring that has been ongoing since 2005 will never end until Wenger either changes his management style (unlikely) or goes.
Cotto
Of course id be happier if we made a loss. That would mean we are outlaying more than we raise, which would on the whole reflect in a better squad.
If youre drinving an old banger and want to improve your car you dont try and make a profit.
You cant consistently improve a team while making profits, no team has ever done this, or ever will do this.
Tony I would buy a Sakho or a Chieilini and make Vermaelen our DM, he won’t do that though because his favourite is Song.
Vermaelen would be an awesome DM, and a better DM than he is a centre back, I think he’s done great as centre back, but I think a big sod in there would be more worthwhile.
“That is, the constant cycle of re-building and re-structuring that has been ongoing since 2005 will never end until Wenger either changes his management style (unlikely) or goes.”
How long should managers be allowed to rebuild over ?!
What sort of comparisons are there to go by ?!
Stunners, if it takes another 3 years to deliver, would you then say it’s flawed?
hillarious gambon.
if you are driving an old banger… you NEED to make a profit so you can buy a brand new aston dbs.
you aint gonna get one of them with a little credit card debt.
cotto
its anglias
and please no Harry Redknapp anyone
How long, well if he’s rebuilding what he previously built, then 2 or 3 seasons tops.
Geoff – That would be a great idea. TV has shown he can play football, he has shown he can defend and he has shown he can score! Then just get in another monster and we’re laughing! Like you say though……its all one big Song love in these days!!
How long should managers be allowed to rebuild over?
Well, Wenger’s into his 5th year, so you’d have thought he might have managed a little more by now. He’s had more time and patience than any manager I can think of in the Premiership era – sure, maybe he’s earned some of that, but if results aren’t forthcoming it’s time to cut your losses.
Sim I’ll let you on but don’t call anyone a prick this time ok?
I knew before he left, unfortunately, that he’d be missed,” said the manager. “But I do not want to draw a quick conclusion because too many players were off the pace on Saturday.
Wenger himself knows that denilson is not good enough
Denilson, I didn’t mean they will leave at 18. We don’t really buy them until they are 16.
I’m talking about players like Cashley and Flamini etc… They come, make a name, then fuck off…
It’s fair enough, why would you want to stay in the same place your whole career?
Buy them at 25, they are far less likely to want to keep chopping and changing.
kush its defo “anglais” not “anglias”
Now don’t get me wrong, I’m enjoying this season but we’ve hit the tipping point.
Sign a couple of player, I reckon we could do it this year.
Take that risk or not signing anyone and we’ve blown the closest race for a while.
Cotto, don’t get into a spelling battle with Kush.
He spells great with an 8.
Jimbo – What comparisons do you have ?!
..and when did the rebuilding start ? The 2004 team is the best we’ve ever had, ever in the history of our club, and it’s supposed to take how long to reach the same stage again ?!
Premiership Era ? The most successful manager in the Premiership right now, had 5 years to build his team up and far more to work with.
Did anyone listen to Adams on ‘Goals on Sunday’, he wasn’t as mad as you’d have thought.
Pedro – Yup, and the fact that we are so close makes me think that Wenger will want to risk it all to prove himself right and just stick with the kids!!
this real is the season to prove or disprove one way or another
last season we were not challenging .. now we are, and if we fail because wenger did not sign cover
a lot of AKBs will turn.
conversely.. what if we win the league?
Is Adams working with Inter?
He seemed to have quite an insight into what they were doing.
Pedro – I’d want us to sign the right players, not ones that might or might not make it.
It’s like peoples fascination with Shay Given, great shot stopper, can’t govern his box, a bit dodgy on the cross and we’re left with a slightly better goalie with the same problems being dealt with.
cotto
u r right got it confused with anglia
Cotto – I’d be over the moon if we win the EPL, obviously. But I will worry that it would only reinforce Wenger’s obsession with doing things on the cheap. And with only 1 win from the last 5 the odds wont be great that we repeat our success.
i’m glad you did not say east angular
Pedro, I get your point.
But how much will Cesc be at 25? How much is Essien? etc Sh!t lets say even how much will Song be at 25 if he continues to improve at current pace?
Now imagine building a competitive team full of these type of players. If you don’t have Oil or Russian money, then it will be almost impossible. Look at what Real Madrid have to spend to try and keep up with Barca.
omg, tag… you are already mugging us off if we win the league
now that really does say a LOT
Keyser – The amount of teams of the decade that have been released lately is crazy. Guess who most had as their Keeper??
Geoff,
I don’t see any reason why we wouldn’t win a few trophies in the next 3 years. The team has improved a great deal this season and the proof is that we’re right in the mix for the title in January. I don’t accept Chavs & ManU dropping points the main reason for where we’re sitting at the moment.
I remember, back in August how most of the gooners had written us off an said we won’t finish in top 4 and we’ll suffer to even qualify for Europa League.
We’ll find out in the next few weeks how much chance we have to win the league and hell yeah, I do believe this could be the season we land our 1st EPL title in 6 years…
let me tell you something, tag
nobody ever “blags” the league.. a cup maybe.. never the league.
Keyser, I totally agree with you.
I don’t want us to sign shite player… and I’m more than happy to see Fabianski given a run.
However, I refuse to believe there aren’t players out there that we can buy.
I’d take Sol as a back up defender, I think Behrami is more than capable or slotting into a midfield and I think Adriano would do a great interim job for us.
Cotto – Dont be a child. Read my comment again if you need to! I said I would worry about it. That’s all. I didn’t say it couldn’t be repeated and I didn’t say I would call for Wenger’s head. Take a breath……
I dunno, but he made sense, him and Parlour, though he needs more stories apart from the Inspector Clouseau one to tell.
Is he our scout ?! I think with a bit of help he’d still make a decent manager.
Denilson, who cares what they’re are worth at 25?
How can you ever sustain success if all you aspire to is to get players to the ripe old age of 25, then flog them?
worry about what?
that we had just won the league?
tag
than we will have two reasons to celebrate this may
cotto
having gr8 fun mate haa..!!
Cotto 2 seasons ago we were 5 points clear and had we beaten Birmingham we’d have gone 8 points clear. This season we are what 3 behind, that’s an 8 point swing.
No AKB’s turned and since then we’ve got worse, so what are you giving the manager credit for, apart from getting paid a further £12million?
Well, as I said, we’re into our 5th year of rebuilding, and Wenger made a bollix of most of the years inbetween now and 2003/04.
As for Ferguson, when he took over, Utd were practically in the relegation zone, and couldn’t finish top half. Arsenal, however, were 12 months removed from going unbeaten when Wenger thought it would be a good idea to dismantle our midfield.
Wenger’s had plenty of time. If he can’t get it right, we should never be offering him a new contract, if not sacking him at the end of the season.
Keyser, I think his demeanour is too miserable these days.
Like, since the alcohol dried up, so did his personality. He’s sullen…
Cotto – And very rarely does a team win the EPL on such low points as this season’s winner will surely do. Have we improved greatly or have Chelsea and Utd slipped up more than usual?? I’d suggest its mostly the later but either way I’m not complaining, quite the contrary!
tonyadamsisgod – Forget teams of the decade, Alumnia flaps at crosses and doesn’t give the same sort commandment of his area as Lehman or Seaman did, and to your mind you think Shea Given would be the one to step in and ease our tensions concerning those areas ?!
Come on.
afternoon all, good post geoff. just wondering where we’re at with tom’s email to l/g. big freeze? hehehe
geoff, i dont give a shit about what happened 2 years ago, we got done on many fronts.. tough luck.. we move on
if we win the title this year, i celebrate like mad, and i will laugh in the face of all the thick cunts who predicted we would struggle to finish 4th
up the gunner
If the team stays together for another 3 years they could end up dominating.But will the likes of cesc,RVP and arshavin stay till then?I will wait till the end of january.If we don’t sign anyone we will end the season trophyless for sure.
Stunners we haven’t improved on 2 years ago though. As far as finishing in the top four this season, we haven’t yet so I’d keep quiet if I were you!
I have said since August, if we had signed 3 top players, we would be ten points clear by now.
I said if we signed Dzeko in January, we could be ten goals clear by February, yes we may have scored more than anyone else, but we have had Robin helping for 3 months, and if we sign a target man, we could score a lot more than if we don’t.
I’m on already Geoff. I would never call someone a prick!
Pedro
But Adriano has already reiterated that he doesn’t
want to leave Brazil
We do need a couple of signings thats for sure but someone posted on here yesterday, why dont we just sign Green,Upson,Parker and cole fuck me thats a 1/3 of the side that are in the bottom 6 have we really set our standards so low
Green = Shit Prefer him over Al Vampire mind but reckon Fabianski will be world class
Upson = Arsenal Reject
Parker = Chelsea Reject
Cole = Chelsea Reject
Cannot for the life of me see how any of those players would really push us forward maybe at a push Cole but for his Pyshical Attributes rather than his goalscoring ability
Cotto we’ll all celebrate because we all support Arsenal, but if we don’t finish in the top four, will you be calling yourself a thick cunt for predicting we wouldn’t?
Zee, amazingly, the secret shareholders PAYE slips haven’t appeared.
You can be anything you want online… even a shareholder.
Pedro – How many players like that are we going to get away with though, if Adriano doesn’t work out say, you can write it off, you can’t have 2-3 maybes with players, because we’d struggle if they didn’t work out.
We’ve scored more goals than any other team, deflected or not, Denilson and even Rosicky got on the scoresheet on Saturday.
I’d want someone that offers us something different to what we have up front, someone very quick hopefully, so when the other players come in he offers us something they quite don’t or not in the same quanities.
Adriano, fit and motivated would probably give us something of an extreme.
i will be too gutted to call myself anything… but it aint happening
we aint liverpool.
Cotto – What we lacked 2 years ago was a manager capable of pulling his team together after a game that saw a player break his leg and a captain throw a tantrum. Wenger didn’t really earn his money then did he. It wasn’t tough luck. We had the lead and Wenger let us fuck it all up.
Pedro, you want us to get players when they’re 25 so they stay until in their 30s.
My point is at that age, they are already superstars and the cost bucket load and hence you’ll need a sugar daddy to build a winning team.
I’m not saying Arsenal should sell players at 25. I’m hopping Cesc and co. stay for at least another 10 years.
Simon, you were in moderation and when I looked back, I found this/
2009/09/04 at 10:42am
prick
Maybe it was out of context and you were calling Fergie one!
Ignore my request.
tag – you cannot fail the manager alone for that collapse.
Keyser, how many of those goals or assists did Robin get?
Chippy – Upson wasn’t a reject, he chose to leave rather than fight for his place against some serious quality. Cole wasn’t a reject either and was in the same situation as Upson. Parker, maybe fair enough.
Denilson, I’m talking about Vermaelen type signings.
The players on the verge of greatness… like we used to. Bobby P, Henry, Freddie… Paddy.
Jimbo – “As for Ferguson, when he took over, Utd were practically in the relegation zone, and couldn’t finish top half.”
Honestly dude, it gets worse every time you say it, next it’ll be Fergie the parapalegic trying to run the marathon to raise money for the club he loved as a kid, and has fallen on ahrd times.
Whats the point in discussing anything if you’re not willing to be rational or reasonable.
Denilson,
you know well that they won’t, don’t you?
player at his best age wants to win trophies, which you cannot do if you are surrounded by substandard ‘developing’ players, played out of position – simple?
Taig……….
Really? Our record at set-pieces has been accentuated by the woeful keeping of Almunia.
Gallas and TV have been epic at the back this season and are currently the one of, if not the best partnership in the league.
The opportunity cost of being the leagues top scorers and most attacking sides is goals conceded.
See, I agree with Given. we didnt sign him apart from the fact we didnt have enough money last year. Arshavin personally forking out at the 11th hour to seal a move is hardly a negoitiation strategy reminiscent of a financially sound institution. Probably didnt have a spare £6 million knocking about for Given.
We have not been told the truth in regards to available funds, and in the last two windows AW has appropiated what he had on two quality players.
Also, project youth has only existed since the stadium move – hence why AW calls this the 4th year of his project. Not his 12th. Also, in his whole career, as I posted earlier, he has signed expensive players – Klinsmann, Hoodle, Weah, HArtlet, Pires, Henry, Wiltord, Reyes, Jeffers, Van Bronckhorst – all relatively expensive for thier respective era’s – then there was a lull, due to the move, now as cash is becoming freer – we have Nasri, Vermaelen, Arshavin.
I have to disagree with dropping £10-£20 on a RW. If there was a position on the field that didnt need any attention it was our attacking midfield.
Again, we dont need to sign an unproven, expensive European talent just to appease a few fans.
JESUS christ!!!
there is a black snoooker player on my TV
i love snooker, this has got to be the first black player i have seen on TV in 25 years of watching the sport.
Parker went to Newcastle because the chavs didn’t play him, they bought all the English to stop anyone else, SWP springs to mind.
Keyser-Are you suggesting that given is not a lot better than almunia?Given is at this moment the best keeper in the PL.If given was playing us we would have been on top right now.
While we are waiting for the seeds to blossom so along will come another fucking Billionaire and set us back to day 1 again.
Sorry but we live for today in football as it is different to all else in life.
What would happen to us if some dopey cunt Billionaire buys them cunts down the road? our whole world will cave in.
Wenger is one of the best Managers but not THE BEST and other Teams also play great football.
Yes we want money to be spent but only because its needed not just forr the sake of it.
No other top Manager would stick with our Keeper imo so Arsene Wenger you should have gone to specsavers.
this from deloitte – not the latest figs but at least shows we’re right up there with the top payers. I think we’re only behind the chavs now for wages.
TOP PREMIER LEAGUE WAGE BILLS 2007/08
Chelsea – £172.1m (£132.9m)
Manchester Utd – £121.1m (£92.3m)
Arsenal – £101.3m (£89.7m)
Liverpool – £90.4m (£77.6m)
Cesc,
we don’t need to build our team around players who fuck off to Africa every 2 years either…
you have to sow to reap, simple as…
youth policy has taken us as far as it could – we may be flat track bullies, but then we hit the brick wall when we play a top class team and get spanked silly…
are we top class or are we not?
if we dont sign anybody this month and we fail to win anything… wenger will struggle to keep the majority of fans on side.
Pedro, that’s cool and I’m with that also.
But the problem is everybody is on the look out these days. That’s why teams like Wigan signs a nobody and before you know it, they’re selling them to the top four team for 20 mil. plus.
That’s why I think it is still crucial to have the academy and use it to build the large part of the team. Then make the Vermaelen/Arshavin type signing when there is a skills gap in the team.
Geoff – We’ve score 53 goals, he assisted 7 of those and scored 7.
Denilson,
what are you saying, that Wigwam Pathetic scouting system is better than ours then?
Suga, this team has great mental strength, as we have proved since the Chelsea defeat.
It’s a shame we didn’t have that same great mental strength when we were playing the chavs in the first place.
So to answer your question, only when we are better than them!
and there are massive skill gaps in the squad at the moment – take Denilson for example…
Geoff,
We have improved, you’ve got to admit. Honestly, tell me did you think in August, we’ll be 3rd in January and still only 3 points behind the Chavs?
Re: finishing in top 4, I don’t need to keep quiet as I don’t see collapsing as Villa did last season. In mid February, we have some easier fixtures and I would like to see us gaining momentum in March April when Chavs, Pools & ManU will be playing each other as we won’t have to play any of them during that period. That’s where we’ll have advantage if we take it with both hands and don’t slip up…
So Keyser, knock 14 off then, because thats the excuse AKB’s give when I say we need a target man as we lost Robin. That proves it!
Cescs – They weren’t exactly epic against the smallest man on the pitch on Saturday were they! Osman free header. Maybe its down to Wenger’s zonal marking strategy that appears not to work too well.
chamakh is now saying he will sort out his future once and for all by the end of jan…
he is still the most likely signing.
Geoff,
we did not have enough in the locker to deal with towering Chav defence – yes, it’s that simple…
we need some Scandinavians as they fit with our weather system better.
The Mancscum and Pool have always had a player from these parts of the world in their set up other than the English of course.
Stunners, we are third and close thanks to Liverpool, Chelsea and Man U, it has little to do with us, they have come down to our level, we haven’t gone up.
Had he signed the 3 players we were asking for, we may be 10 points clear by now.
GTS,
I for one said that the title will be an affair between us and Chavs, as ManYoo did weaken considerably and Pool became plain shit…
TAIG,
Upson wouldnt come to us to sit on the bench thats for sure and when he was originally with us if i remember correctly we as fans were not exactly crying that he left as everytime he got a chance to impress he come down with an injury that being said hed probably fit right in now
Cole, Think he had a pretty poor atitude at chelsea and that was one of the reasons they let him go that maybe had something to do with him not getting a look in tho so ill give you that one lol
i am sure there are good players out there but there is no dought its alot easier fnd players in the summer than in jan,i would not sell almunia he is good shot stopper but he does not cammand alot confedence he is a good backup keeper david seamon left huge act to follow but fabianki is number one for me.i feel getting a backup cb is extremly important but once again what on earth is happening with senderos
nishanth – Givens the best keeper in the league ? Citeh have conceeded 27 goals, 4 more than us and no-one else in the top half of the table has conceeded more.
He’s not dominant in the box, he doesn’t command his area with absolution, he’s a good shot stopper.
It’s like last season when Liverpool put 5 past Newcastle and Given was supposed to have been their best player. We’re playing at the top end of World football.
Tel, we asked for Hangeland.
geoff, we have gone up
compare our league points total from this time last year and now.
facts are facts.
Suga…
We have been moving away from African players for some time now – and having seen the improvement of Song this year, its clear to see why we kept him.
How can you say project youth has failed, when every single age group is murdering thier respective league?
The short sightedness of some fans is fascinating. Yes we may not have many world beaters now, but if the class of Wilshere is the first crop, imagine the quality of player to be produced in next 10,20,30 years.
Trying to emulated Barcelona should be praised and respected. Not criticised before its had a chance to take off.
I think we are a top side. Not thumping everyone 5-0 doesnt disprove that.
Im Gooner for the rest of my life. Not just the next 5 months and I love the fact the decision making policy at the club has a long term focus.
Each to thier own I guess.
“So Keyser, knock 14 off then, because thats the excuse AKB’s give when I say we need a target man as we lost Robin. That proves it!”
Geoff – I have no idea what you’re talking about ? Proves what ? and who are AKB’s ?!
leon,
I wouldn’t sell Al either – I would just take him aback, blast the fucker and avoided burying him in the Holy Land, ffs…
he is pants, end of – no winning team had GK of such ‘qualitee’…
We are well on course to concede many more goals this season than last season. So again has Vermaelen fixed the problem? Almunia is shit, yes, but he hasn’t been at fault for 23 goals.
Geoff
We sold Larsson.
So many more poor teams help with that Cotto, Hull were third when they beat us last year.
i would say the league is harder this year as more teams are capable of beating the bigger teams.
we had 35 pts this time last season and now have 42 pts.
Chippy – neither will happen anyway, ha ha!
zonal marking taig??
we were man marking for the osman goal….
taig,
a) how can you think that was anyones fault other than Almunia? It was hardly a bullet header..
b) we havent had zonal marking for 2 seasons now?
pal lydersen anyone?
Bendtner cleared for Arsenal return
in 2 weeks
Keyser, let me explain.
Some people are saying we don’t need to sign a forward as we have scored more goals than anyone else.
I said we do because the front man we lost scored 7 of them and assisted with 7. He’s now gone, so we should replace him.
Pretty simple that.
Suga3, you’re pushing it
I’m saying since everyone is on the look out now and willing to take the same risks Arsene was taking in the late 90s/eary 2000s, the chances of Arsenal getting these unknown at 23/24 and turning them into superstars at 26-27 are getting smaller and smaller.
We either have to find a sugar daddy and buy players for 20 mil plus, get into a 700 mil debt, or take the route we’ve taken i.e. try to build a team, young team if I may add, and then only buy one or two players to complement what we have.
tonyadamsisgod – Did you watch ‘Goals on Sunday’ Adams addressed the Osman issue aswell.
Geoff
I remember getting into arguments before the previous season and to date regarding Goalkeepers.
I said that not very often if at all does a Team win the League with a shitter in goal.
My latest take is this, the reason the Mancscum and Chavs are so poor this year is because Cech has lost confidence and Van Der Sar has been injured.
Many gave me an hard time for calling VDS a quality keeper but over the past 3 years he has been the best signing in the Prem.
Laters grovers B-)
Well if it wasn’t zonal it sure fucking looked like it because Osman got a running start on the ball and Gallas was rooted.
Cotto
Re; your question earlier.
If we win the league i will obviously be delighted. But i wouldnt abandon my take on project youth, ultimately it wouldve taken Wenger 6 years to deliver the league, so i wouldnt look forward to winning again in 2016.
Just because we win the PL doesnt mean i dont think we need a GK, a better defence & more height/strength.
When you win the league your rivakls strengthen to try and win it the next time, its just as important to imporove as it is if you come 4th.
Even Wenger admitted this in his post match interview when we won the league at WHL, just a shame he lost his marbles and broke up the team so quickly.
does anybody on here actually believe we have not improved from last season?
Also we have conceded more than last season, so what does that tell you?
It tells me that Wenger learned nothing regarding conceding goals from last year.
And he lives for stats, or is that only when it suits him?
Keyser-City’s defending is shocking.Every single team in the league find it easy to score against them.It has more to do with their defenders than given.I think fabianski is good enough.But what is the point if wenger doesn’t play him?Any other manager would have dropped him by now.Instead we have wenger who gives him the fucking captaincy
Keyser – No mate, what did he say?
To add to what Geoff says ,
we scored 2.85 goals per game till the last game RVP played (19 games)
We score 1.5 goals per game after his injury. (12 games)
Tel, I don’t disagree mate.
Bendtner our Scandinavian saviour. Thats the answer.
Johnny Jensen, anyone Shoooooooooooot.
taig it’s because osman completely fooled us – he was on the edge of the area as if he was just gonna wait there to feed on any scraps, then made a very late run from very deep, and whoever was covering him on the edge of the box didn’t/couldn’t follow him.
taig,
when you adapt your formation to scored double the amount of goals, conceding an extra 10% is sort of expected.
Almunia hasnt been at blame for 23 goals. But I bet with a decent keeper we would have only conceded between 15-18.
Pure guess work obviously, but I doubt anyone could really disagree with that.
geoff, the league table does not lie
we have improved from last season, as the table clearly tells us.
we are playing a more open brnad of football… successfully
as shown by more points and more goals than this time last season
as natural by product of being more adventurous is leaking more goals.. but if we carry on as we have started.. we will be close to winning the league.
There you go, well done Sam, and Wenger doesn’t think we need a target man???
Geoff – Whats akb’s got to do with it ?!
Also not really my point, we’ve scored more goals than anyone else, we don’t need another scorer up front we need someone thats going to offer us something different aswell as goals, to unlock the teams that we struggle with when players like Van Persie or Bendtner are out.
Someone mentioned Podoloski, left sided, technically good and a goalscorer, similar to Van Persie, whats the point in signing someone similar to what we have.
We don’t really have a problem scoring goals, it’s the type of goals.
geoff, when did wenger say we dont need a target man?
Cheers Geoff,
Cheer up pal.
Off for a bit.
Geoff,
A little to do?? Our GD is +30 which is higher than any of the above two and highest is the league. Our midfielders are scoring for fun even Gallas & Verm contributed handsomly this season.
Re: ManU & Chavs, they are not weaker and I’ve said it many times that the smaller teams have improved a lot this season. You always talk about Chavs embarassing us but they got embarassed at Wigan, Villa, West Ham, Birmingham & Man shitty. Did you happen to watch any of these games where Chavs & ManU dropped points, they weren’t poor, the oppositions play them off the park and none of the teams took point off them two by luck…
Cotto, look at the league table since 2004, when he started project youth, that doesn’t lie either.
On that not I’m off down the gym, catch you’ll later.
cotto
I think we have improved from last season
defensively as well as offensively
offensively we are more direct
defensively we have a solid centre back duo
players dont kick and run against us nowadays like torres in that 4-4 epic
laters
Sam it’s not as extreme as that. I assume in those 12 games you’re including the league cup, and last champs league games, where he wouldn’t have played anyways?
We failed to score against Sunderland and Chelsea, one against Burnley, and at least 2 goals in the other games since vp got injured that he would’ve played in.
I think we really need a forward, and I’m certain we’ll get one, but I’ve been surprised by how well we’ve coped without VP
SUGA,
I said the same thing in August about us & Chavs fighting for the title…
A – Brilliant. We have players so incompetent that Leon fucking Osman can fool us! Awesome!
Cescs – I agree about Almunia. But this whole attack, attack, attack approach is too naive! More work and more focus has to go on our defending. We cant rely on our strikers bailing out our defenders! As Sam just pointed out, we’re only averaging 1.5 a game since RvP got injured. Defense should always be the most important part of a team. Then comes the attacking half.
tonyadamsisgod – After all the sticks he’s had he made quite a lot of sense.
He talked about where Osman came from for the goal, and that it’s hard to pick up people that run in from the edge of the box, because Gallas and Vermaelen have already picked up their own players. Arshavin was sort of marking him and just let him go.
It’s like Diaby losing his man against Porto last year, Osman was free and had a running jump on everyone, with players in front of him to disguise his run.
cotto we might have done but i think the frustrating thing is we need to strengthen in 3 or 4 areas, it doesnt need a massive overhaul. I think most people agree we need a new g/k, aerially dominant and fast back-up c/b, physical presence alongside fab and also, presently, up top. These are all issues which should have been addressed in the summer.
how do you judge improvement?
we’ll judge at the end of the season.
Not just the stats, the flowing football we played when RVP played is gone. Now we play well in patches.
All that 4s and 6s are gone now. (We scored 4 against portsmouth – only game we managed to do after his injury). What I am trying to say is he is more value than his 7 goals + 7 assists.
sam there having work alot harder but they are still scoring and i am sorry if our defence good enough almunia and defence are not gelling because he does give them any confedence,on the other hand if we lost gallas or verm we only have senderos who has not played in months and silvest who 4/5 th defender,evon without rvp this team is till scoring getting another would be good but not the end of the world of thet dont get one but getting cb cover is essential
Keyser – Makes sense but at the same time Gallas was so close to it I think he even tried a half hearted attempt. Think he could have done more especially as whoever he was meant to be marking clearly wasn’t going to make it.
choy, if i am asked the question today.. i say we have improved.. as the table does not lie.
if i am asked at the end of the season, naturally i will give the answer based on our points tally in comparision to last seasons.
Sam,
And what do you call these,
3-0 v Hull
3-0 v Villa
i agree zee
WE ALL agree on the new signings… not heard one dissenter on that front!!
Sam
dats why Arsene is searching for a similar type of player(RVP) which I think is not there at present
Gunners the Stunners, my comment earlier about the squad being stretched has nothing to do with results – present or past, but to do with the number of first team players available to the boss, in terms of rotation. On saturday, wenger’s third sub had to be a fringe player – Merida. Without song, and potentially without denilson, we dont have a defensive midfield player in the squad.
FUCK i just gave a proper wenger esque response to choy @ 1449
yeah and as geoff says we’re made to feel grateful for 35 yr old sol – who lost at accrington in his last run out!!
cotto it was a proper footballistic reply that
hahah
But people remember, the highest scoring team doesn’t always win the league,
the team which keeps the most clean sheets, generally do!
we focus too much on attack.
choy – amen to that!
we have definitely improved on last season but probably not much different to the season before that when Flamini was great for us and Ade was smashing them in every week.
i think we let in 18 goals in 90-91 season – cant have everything i guess!!
Ade was only smashing them in till Dec or so, he then decided he had made it!
flam, hleb should’ve stayed on, the twunts.
tonyadamsisgod – You’re trying to hard to make it fit, we’re not perfect on crosses and set pieces, but we’ve done well. I’d have to watch it again, but we held the line around the 6 yard box, our players were goal side, Osman came in behind the Everton players and we couldn’t adjust in time, it’s just one of those goals.
Chelsea are massive, they barely had a headed chance against us, not that they needed it, Crouch didn’t either or Villa for that matter who’ve scored loads of goals from set pieces.
It’s not just about new centre-halves it’s teams not getting the chance in the first place.
Seriously dude he discussed a lot of things and made sense with most of them, it might be on the Sky player or something.
it was fucking denilson’s fault we conceded that corner wunnit?
The team with the best goal difference usually wins the league, there have been a fair few times where the team with the best defensive record, or the best attacking record didn’t win the league, but only one since 2001 where the team with the best goal difference overall didn’t win it….
Gazzap,
Agree with you on that one. We are really unlucky when it comes to injuries. Last season, Gibbs could only get a handful of games and this season Traore is playing as a regular LB. But the thing is that we can’t sign a new player as soon as we have someone injured for a couple of weeks or a month. Re: RVP is totally different situation as he is out for the season and we do need someone to replace him just for that period which is why I think AW is looking for a proved striker to come in on loan until May cos if he buys one he will have to sell someone in summer.
Sam – Thats too easy though, we scored 3 against Hull and Villa, and since Van Persie, Bendtner and Fabregas have been injured, Song and Eboue have now gone, Walcott still hasn’t come back to fitness.
It took a while for Van Persie to settle and we scored 6 without him making the scorers sheet at the start of the season. There’s goals in this team from all over the pitch, it’s just the variety we need for different teams.
Keyser – ha ha, not trying to make it fit mate. Just all sounds like zonal marking to me and I cant remember Wenger stating we don’t do that any more.
A who was that, for the record?
Taig, Very true my friend thats cos we only sign super class players and we will be very re assured by what we see coming in
Bendtner will be back so cheer up fellow gooners
get some positive vibes flowing around the GROVE!!
chippy – aka Bendtner & Co.
tonyadamsisgod – If you’d listened to your god, you might feel different about that particular goal, thats all, heh.
A,
That’s why I’m not overly concerned about us conceding goals as we make that up by scoring more than others. So, if by the end of this season, we have scored 110-115 goals, I won’t mind if we have conceded 45-50 as our GD will still be higher than ManU & Chavs and the rest of the lot…
2008/09 : pool had the best GD(2)
2002/03 : arse had the best GD(2)
Keysey – meh….what does he know, hey! I knew this name would fuck me over sooner or later!
Simple stat to show how bad we have regressed over the years.
ManUnited have their worst points haul at this stage of the season over the last 5 years. This was even before Birmingham
This season looks ok because
a. Last season was terrible
b. Our challengers are weaker
We are still leaking goals like a paraplegic suffering from chronic diarrhaea
My point re ManUnited is that though we have a game on them they are still ahead of us
Well they will be like new signings wont they?
See on Arseblog this morning that hes heard that Bendnter will not be back playing first team football in 2 weeks, Prada.com are surely not lying to the fans again are they ?
Im sure his original injury was only expected ro last 2-3 weeks maybe they amputated his leg rather than injecting it
“But people remember, the highest scoring team doesn’t always win the league,
the team which keeps the most clean sheets, generally do!”
Is that a fact ?! Who said that ?!
gazzap flamster has one great season but since then were he does start for milan and nothing to say would reproduce the same form and hleb he blew it no were is he
I give up!
In fact since the formation of the league
92/93 – best gd, best defence
93/94 – best gd, best goals
94/95 – best goals
95/96 – best gd, best goals
96/97 – best goals
97/98 –
98/99 – best gd, best goals
99/00 – best gd, best goals
00/01 – best gd, best goals, best defence
01/02 – best gd
02/03 – best defence
03/04 – best gd, best goals, best defence
04/05 – best gd, best defence
05/06 – best gd, best goals, best defence
06/07 – best gd, best goals
07/08 – best gd, best goals, best defence
08/09 – best defence
gd – 12
goals – 11
defence – 8
So the winner of the league has failed to have the best defensive record, more often than failed to score the most goals
Keyser – although I agree with that it cant be a fact because its only a fact if you put the word fact at the end of the sentence. Fact.
Id say the Best team over the season generally win the league
Gunners the stunners
If we conceed 45-50 goals we wont win the league, regardless of how many we score.
Yes we score a lot of goals (or we do this season), but we score a lot against the shit teams. Check out how many weve scored against the big teams in the last few years, i bet it aint more than our rivals.
We are set up to smash the shit teams. At the end of the day theres little difference between beating blackburn 6-2 or 2-0, you still get 3 points.
Where as if you conceed 2 against UTD you aint getting 6 goals, or 3 points.
Its not like we are streets ahead of our rivals Goal dif wise think we are 1-2 clear of Chhelsea and 3 ahead of United which is fuck all,
I’d say the team that finishes the season in 1st place generally wins the league!
Either that or the team that finishes higher than 2nd!
A
So best defence seems to be an important trait in recent seasons.
I think its even more important in the latter stages of the CL.
tonyadamisgod – Which is why I asked the question dude, gambon mentioned it yesterday, was wondering if this is the latest stat people are going to use to slate the team or Wenger.
TAIG, Think you might be on to something there
It wont be us either way lol !
I dunno gambon, 3 out of the last 4 seasons the best defence has won the league, 3 out of the last 4 seasons the best attack has won the league. They’re both important.
I agree though, in the champs league it’s more important imo, and that’s why I don’t see us winning that.
this year is a massive opp to win the league. hope wenger recognizes this and acts now
gambon – I doubt it’s that simple, how would you set up to score heavily against the best teams ?!
You’d simply have to have the best all round attacking team ever.
GD is over rated… spuds put 9 past wigan!
Last season we were pretty good when we kept a clean sheet or let in only one goal (on target to gather 90 points for the season)
but we never won a game when we conceded 2 or more goals and only got 3 out of a possible 24 points
(need to think about the value of goals versus the quality of the opposition, it makes sense, but needs a little bit of back tracking)
ROFL! Thie debate is going on…
…I always thought the team that won the most games won the league….not who has the best gd, defense or attack.
Franchise,
Couldnt agree more thats why i think everyones getting so Irked with the lack of ambition being shown, We dont need to spend zillions just re invest the Toure and Whore money and we are good to go it will also do wonders for moral to have a couple of new faces,
How did we reach the CL final?
if you win the most games you’ll generally have the best goal difference frichie, and either the best defence or attack
A the data for the last 13 seasons shows…
goal difference is best correlated, followed by goals for and lastly goals against
the team with the biggest goal difference has come
1st – 72%
2nd – 28%
the top scoring team has come
1st — 60%
2nd – 33%
3rd – 7%
the lowest conceding team has come
1st – 47%
2nd – 27%
3rd – 7%
4th – 7%
5th – 14%
Our current projected goal difference of 53 is above the average goal difference of the previous 13 champions (47) and would have won us the league in 10 out of the last 13 years
To put this in persepctive… no team with a goal difference of 53 or better has lost the prem title race
Right you homo’s, I’m off! Play nice!
Wenger recognizes that the league is one of the toughest ever but i dont understand why he thinks he can struggle through it after loosing a few key players and players going in and out of the treatment room like it was coitus
actually Frichie it’s the most points, when its close win-wise the pesky draws count big time
Hey, does anyone know any injuey news for this weekend? the website updated the status of Bendtner, Clichy and Denilson without adding anything new…
cheers for that ray! you just worked all that out??
Ray, I salute your Math
fabregas is back!
lol @ Ray
Franchise,
As we all know God is a Gooner !!
God only knows, saying that hes probably scratching his chin over it
im not looking forward to the games we’ve got lined up at the end of the month
why did the FA do this to us?
either of two things can happen. but judging by the last few years when we have disappointed when the stake were highest, i am not feeling too confident
Great post, love the sarcasm!
I think Denilson is a decent player, has scored some good and important goals so far but he is not a DM. His body strength is woefully lacking. Watching him try and do Song-style shielding against Everton was embarrassing. Ramsey, Diaby, Deniilson all say they can operate in the DM role…..lies!
If we get through them without to much damage tho and are still within say 6 points of the leaders we will have a cracking chance as our run in is pretty damn kind,
Bolton Away
Stoke Away (FA)
Villa Away
Mancs Home
Chavs Away
Pool Home
Here’s the Sun’s player ratings — waddya think…
ARSENAL
Manuel Almunia 7
Bacary Sagna 7
William Gallas 8
Thomas Vermaelen 8
Armand Traore 7
Denilson 8 (Merida 5)
Abou Diaby 8
Aaron Ramsey 7 (Rosicky 7)
Samir Nasri 6
Eduardo 7 (Vela 6)
Andrey Arshavin 6
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2802225/Arsenals-ratings-against-Everton.html#ixzz0cJhh7Lv2
Keyser
In any sport you get individuals/teams who excel against weaker opposition but struggle against tough opposition.
In boxing you have guys that absolutely take apart weak opponents, but stuggle agains top class boxers, who subsequentley cant beat the same weakies by the same margin.
Asafa Powell has run 1/2 of the 20 fastest times ever yet struggles vs top opposition that hes quicker than.
why couldn’y we play our postponed game against Bolton sometime this week? We haven’t played too much football lately and we have an intense period coming up… Now would have been the best possible time… or is is just too much to expect the FA to be slightly organised?
plus our game is only on sunday…
yeah those last four will be pretty tough, after that we’re laughing!
I think we could play bolton this sunday as per scheduled and have another game against the same mugs before stoke.
Anything after that is really taking the piss
I still dont understand why our players are so weak & feeble, it takes no time at all to drastically increase body strength.
Is it that Arsene doesnt want these guys to be stronger, or just doesnt know this is possible.
Francis I bet the game would be fixed for some day when the other 16 clubs who missed games last weekend due to snow can play
it means further congestion especially with the CL and FA cup becoming very active in the coming weeks
our medical team has to have a spud
a this team could have better defensive record we have very cb and midfield is pretty good huge amount of attacking options but if we had a keeper of stucture of david seamon alot of goals conceded have been through almunia indecisions and i feel fab would do alot better job,i feel another reason why wenger is not eager get another striker is that giving edwardo a chance get confedence back if wenger did get another striker were would they all fit rvp edwardo,bretna vela plus theo and simpson
I see your point… I just don’t understand why we have to be inconvenienced simply because we’re competent enough to allow a game to go ahead despite adverse conditions…
Absolutely ridiculous imo Ray, though they always are in the Sun and similar tabloids!
I’d go
Almunia 5
Sagna 6
Gallas 6
Vermy 6
Traore 6
Ramsey 4
Denilson 6
Diaby 7
Nasri 6
Arshavin 6
Eduardo 6
just average all round, apart from diaby, almunia and ramsey
A says after that were laughing…… yet we cant beat Everton at home. There are hardly any easy games this year
to win the league we would have to play out of our socks until it is mathaematically impossible to loose it
ive watched us on too many occassions dropping 3 points bankers. remember the beginning of last season?????
Yeah Franchise, because Everton at home is a walk in the park?!
what does last season have to do with this season too?!
Everton was the first game that we’d expect to win at home, that we havn’t.
bolton away this weekend is not even a guaranteed 3 points the way i see it
We still have places like Brum away!
A
This is not meant to be rude but did you go to the game?
And now fabregas has to defend much more now that song is gone.. ahhh
no London, why? And why would it be construed as rude?!
Can anyone suggest why Wenger persists with Almunia in goals. I’m sure it’s not simply because Wenger is stubborn. There must be another reason! I looked at his profile and he’s actually had a remarkably average career playing at lower league spanish clubs b4 joining us!
I would put Fab in till the end of the season and if he can’t impress then we turn to the market… althought I hear that Wojech Sceszney (?) is an immense prospect and is potentially world class from a lot of different sources….
I just don’t know what to make of the situation…
I find people often use it an a taunt “Did you go to the game”
Anyway, I understand your ratings now.
does owen coyle have enough time to change a boring defensive team into a proper football playing team?
maybe playing bolton this weekend coming is not the worst time.
What about Burnley away in December? or are all our remaining games at home
this is why fans like myself are crying for quick investment
we dont have the squad to cope with the rigours of all the competition we are in
get targets in asap and hopefully they settle quickly to give us the neccessary push
arshavin has done well as a CF but IMO he would have been better operating from wide left where he has the oppurtunity to run at defenders more often
since arsh moved from the left flank centrally our play which was like 65% through the right flank has increased to like 80%
gambon – “Asafa Powell has run 1/2 of the 20 fastest times ever yet struggles vs top opposition that hes quicker than.”
Mate, apart from that being completely different, have you actually researched this ?!
I’d say we’re setup to play football, attacking football, we struggle against teams that decide to sit back, soak up pressure and play on the counter attack knowing how dangerous we are.
The better teams will obviously be more successful at this because it’s far easier to implement this gameplan than it is to play against it.
It’s what the Premiership is, a shitkickers paradise, I’m glad that we’re trying to change that. It’s why teams like Chelsea should never ever win the Champions League.
anyone seen the messi chip goal from last night? pure class
well A in case u havent noticed we have a worse defensive record than we had same time last year
we have been averaging less goals per game in comparison to the first 4 months of the season
when was the last time we won 10 straight premiership games?
no matter how easy our run of games have been over the years we have a habit of dropping pregame-guaranteed 3 points
The thing is surely theres no risk putting Fabianski in?
At the very worst he would still be better than Almunia, and if he doesnt prove up to it Wenger knows he needs a keeper.
Im not a big fan of throwing people in mid season, but lets face it, Stephen Hawking could do a better job that Al.
I wouldn’t take it as rude London! Though could maybe construe you understanding my ratings as that! I have a decent stream, and have watched the game in full a couple of times since, noone really played THAT badly imo, apart from Ramsey, and noone played anything better than average, apart from Diaby.
How did you see it?
what do y’all think?
Franchise when was the last time ANYONE won 10 premiership games in a row?!
This season we’ve got a better record in terms of match results, and points, and a MUCH better record in the games we’d expect to win….
Last year we failed to win countless games we would expect to, this year we’ve failed to beat Everton at home, Sunderland, West Ham, and Burnley away. None of those games were absolute gimmes.
Funny that eh.. for all the youth policy and all that, he still relies on an aging goalie!
A,
a team with title ambitions should piss all over Europa League team (at best) at home…
Almunia gets slated without remorse, he wasn’t really to blame for either goal and after Denilson went down, he made a smart save to stop Vaughan, that kept is in the game.
our inability to hold up play is putting our midfield and defence under pressure.
wonderful blogging
http://arsenalstation.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/why-arsene-is-a-better-manager-than-ferguson/
Francis,
it’s easy – bimbo is blackmailing him
well if that’s the case SUGA then there isn’t a team in the premiership with title ambitions I guess??
A over the last few years i can remember chelsea and united winning 10 straight league games
u can big us up as much as u wish. the writings is on the wall clearly
Invest or bust
Cotto – Dude, don’t, you’ll just get the closet United lovers out.
Keyser,
how the fuck was he not at fault for either goal?
should have come for the first, should be more decisive for the second, even take one for the team by kicking the shit out of Pienaar like he tried to do with Traore, as long as it would be outside of the box…
he is a piss poor keeper and a disgrace to this team…
Keyser he almost injured both our full backs!
His distribution was piss poor and I think Jens would have run the length of the pitch to take out pienaar!!
i have to admitt i thought without rvp this team have calapsed but thts not the case at all there having fight alot harder for goals and just work so much harder but there doing it,this showing alot fight because we should lost that game but they fought to the end and got a point they are coping with injuries and i would hope wenger find some players it make it alot easier but this can longer can be called soft touch
just read it myself Cotto… so true a lot of people… for insatnce the writer’s of this blog fail to realise this…
I say this in utter honesty, not just coz im a gooner, there is no other team I’d rather support than Arsenal. Our future (and current) prospects are immense… United have a collection of average player’s whilst Chelsea have an ever aging squad… the future is our’s…
a time will come soon.. when gooners with dissenting voices will look back over the period of 2006-2010? and think back to what they were really worried about.. and maybe question there abiltity to see the wood from the trees.
100% agreed, jeffers
Just pointing out something good he did. Wasn’t at fault for either of the goals, saved the Vaughan one on one, kept us in the game.
SUGA3 – Honestly dude, do you play in goal much ?!
Yep francis, too bad the present isn’t
Franchise
Who do you think will win the league?
writings on the wall?!
MASSIVE exaggeration there don’t you think?!
no team has done that this season.
Chelsea and utd have done it once each in the last 5 years, in 05/06 for chelsea
Utd last season
not like it’s a regular occurence and you won’t win the league if you don’t!
choy – Jens would’ve probably knocked him out and got sent off. Don’t get why we have to focus our hate like this on single players.
Keyser,
Nothing to do with football but.
Asafa Powell;
- Has run under 10s 60 times, a record
- Has run under 9.9 29 times, a record
- has run under 9.8 7 times, one of only 3 men to do so
- Only man to run under 10s 15x in a season
- In the 7 years of the IAAF World Athletics Finals he won more events than any athlete
- Sprining record of 35 IAAF grand prix events
All of this yet he has bottled it constantly when it comes to the crunch, much like us.
Asafa is the Arsenal of sprinting!
That article is complete bollocks.United are used to winning things,and their fans wont take anything other than a victory.Our problem is we have some fucking mugs disguised as fans,who are blind supporters of the manager than the club itself.
A, Ramsey 4?? I dont think so, I thought he had a decent game. that doesn’t mean everything he tried came off but sometimes players make important contributions that are not really noticed. I thought he was getting close to Everton players and helped us in a defensive way when we didn’t have the ball. He was also shoved right wing in the second half.
for me it was Denilson that was below average.
but overall I agree that no one was great and no one was bad – I didn’t think anyone deserved a 4.
Also, I thought that while Eduardo was average (same as everyone else) I thought he should have stayed on for 90. He is only only true centre forward and knows where to make runs in the box. when you have Vela coming on, the player that makes the most of Vela passses and crosses is Eddie.
as it was both Arsh and Vela were over on the left, no one in the box at all.
I would have hooked Nasri. After around 60 minutes, he drifted out of the game. Arsh right, Eddie CF and Vela left. Diaby, Ramsey and Rosicky in the middle is how it should have gone when Den got injured.
GM really i have no clue but i doubt its us if we dont invest this January
i still think chelsea are the team to finish ahead of
jaguar, that is just plain rude.
i believe you are just a fan.. not a supporter of the club.
there is a big difference.
gambon – Heh, was just wondering where you’d read that, or if you’d actually taken the time to work it out.
The examples are completely different, there’s far more vaiables to consider. Actually forget that, the comparison is just silly, no offence.
But we’re an attacking attractive team to watch, how the hell would Asafa Powell convey that in his running style ?!
bottled it how gambon?!
Cotto,
Explain why we will look back to think what we were really worried about?
Even if we win every trophy from 2011 – 2016 i will still be adamant that we needed a better keeper than Almunia.
I will still say we needed to defend better.
Your argument is ridiculous, like saying we should all look back and say WW2 was worth it cos look how things are now.
if we drop too much points when we play the ‘big’ teams in the 4 games starting with villa away thats it for us IMO
Francis, what sort of a statement is that?
How much more dedicated can me and Geoff get as gooners?
Season ticket holders for 20 odd years and authors of the busiest Arsenal blog on the web.
You think I’d prefer to support someone else? Not a chance.
As for the story on the other blog, you can paint Wenger however you like, when it comes to the crunch, Ferguson will always go down as one of the greatest managers of all time. His success is almost unrivalled.
Wenger is the greatest Arsenal manager, no doubt… but his record is nowhere near that of Ferguson.
Sorry gambon I take it back, i was being retarded, thought you were talking about bolt!
actually Franchise, I don’t disagree with a lot of what you say but defensively this year we aren’t that bad, at least statistically…
we have let in 6 less goals and gained 12 more points this year than we did in the equivalent fixtures last year
seems counter-intuitive, I know, but thems the numbers
Gambon, well said. Do Man United fans look back at the 3 years they didn’t win a trophy and say, jeez, those were the good times!
A exaggeration? FFS we havent won the league since 2004 and u think we’ll piss it
haha
Franchise – Who would you buy thats seriously going to be able to help us instantly in those games we play in a couple of weeks from now is it ?!
A
- Losing to UTD last year CL semi
- Losing to Liverpool 2008 CL QF
- Losing to PSV 2006-7 CL 2nd Round
- Losing to Chelsea last year FAC semi
- Blowing league 2007-8
- Blowing CL final 2006
- Blowing LC Final 2007
In a 2 horse race we should be winning half of these, yet we blew them all, the second the pressure was on.
Keyser,
no, I don’t, used to play CB tho
he sould easily prevented the corner that led to the first goal as well if he could be arsed to move and stop the ball…
Oh, don’t start the I’m a fan, I’m a supporter rubbish… go over to ACLF if you want to debate that all day.
Nothing annoys me more than fans trying to make out they are better supporters… it’s like the when the American press call dissenters of the Government unpatriotic.
I agree Franchise. I think we’ll be above the mancs unless they invest heavily but we won’t win without some reinfocements
keyser i hear our scouting network is one little reason why we have a crazy wage bill
what have they been doing?
where is the urgency?
GM, someone has to break away in the second half… if we invest wisely, that could be us.
gazzap imo ramsey was our biggest problem, he was REALLY off his game, just couldn’t control the ball, everton were closing us down like terriers, and he just couldn’t cope with it, which cost us greatly in the middle of the park. It was noticable how much we improved once Nasri dropped into midfield, and then when Ramsey went off for Rosicky. His inability to control the ball was like Bendtner at his worst last season! He’s a kid, so inconsistency is expected, tough conditions, and Everton made it very very difficult, but he was still very poor imo
i thought nasri was ok, he kept possession and used the ball much better in midfield when he dropped deep, and created a few opportunities as a result.
It was a tough call re eduardo or arshavin, arshavin could come up with that big of magic, but eduardo could’ve sniffed out a goal
SUGA3 – If you’re one on one with a keeper, you’d back most people to finish, especially if he’s got no pressure around him, he could’ve chipped it from 30 yards away and still caught up with it before Almunia had time to turn and run back.
The End of the Month.. geez.. i’m worried about bolton..
bogey team, new manager effect, physical team!!
“the writing’s on the wall” makes it sound like we’re about to go into administration and the club could be no more! Yes i’d say that phrase is a MASSIVE exageration.
When did I say we’ll piss it?
And what does not winning the league in previous years have to do with now?
Franchise – Doesn’t really answer the question does it ?!
we didnt sign arshavin until the 31st and it took him another month or so to adapt and get to full fitness. it makes u wanna ask what if we signed him 3 or 4 weeks earlier could he have helped us in that goalless draw run we had late january to mid february 09?
same would be with any one we wish to sign this january. the earlier the better
well A u said we would be laughing at 15:30
what did u mean? that we are the barca side of 09/10
I can see us buying no one though. I read a quote (so don’t know if it’s authentic) that Wenger said it’s up to the players to make him renew his contract. That means that he can blame the players. I didn’t see the game on Saturday but watched motd. It’s really funny how hansen says “it’s a testamant to the manager that united are 2nd even though they have been shit whereas we are just “shit”.
Obviously not those exact words
no franchise – that we have a really easy run in….
Franchise – Yeah, in a ideal world, we’d have a squad and team that could cope with any problem imaginable, but we don’t live in an ideal world.
If we buy someone I hope it’s with the same consideration we buy all our players, not because we’re forced to or are desperate and go with panic buys.
keyser the players i want are the players i want not nevccessarily the ones wenger wants. its up to him to find the cheap bargains he is reknown for going for
all we asking for is some urgency not mind games
goonermichael – They barely show any of the game, so can take the piss with how they want to represent it.
Easy run in.. is that a guaranteed 3 points?
What are the easy games A?
close sources tell me that zenit didnt budge too much on the arshavin fee even though we waited 4 weeks for it to materialise
he is officially our most expensive buy ever
Franchise – heh, mind games ?!
We’ve got to where we are by buying well at the right times, he’s done that since day 1, and I’d want him to do it now aswell.
I don’t want someone as a stop gap, whats the point.
The difficulty of games or a run is all relevant really.
And to be fair we couldnt have asked for a better last 12 games or so.
Keyser,
well, but he didn’t did he?
he should have gone a yard further to make himself bigger, but as always was in two minds…
Hey Pedro…
Sorry that comment was made with no offence intended… I just thought today’s blog was overly negative and that article had an opposite view… sometimes I feel like you overdo it a bit… it was only a draw and with arguably our 3 most important players out of action (song, fab, rvp).
However this is still my fav blog even more so than arseblog which I thoroughly enjoy…
You are of course entitled to an opinion just like me… keep up the great work
since day 1?????? does that explain the trophy drought over the last few years
jeez ive forgotten who im debating with
im sorry u are 100% correct
i rest my case
gambon, using ww2 as a conduit to support your argument says a lot about you… i’m afraid
A boring sarcatic non productive post! I am as dissapointed as everyone else but enjoy reading Le Grove for there pros and cons, reviews and regards. This post was poorly written, sarcasm is the lowest form of wit!! anyway enough be moaning, at least we nicked a point!! I have heard on the grapevine we will be making an offer for Dzeco this week…… you heard it here first…. or second……
Lol Cotto, arent you the guy that keeps on getting thrown off of here?
K thanks!
AW thinks that if he acts like he is skint, all the clubs will bend over and let him fuck’em…
it’s not like you can go to Ritz for dinner, then moan that you only have £3.99 in your pocket, is it?
You never have a guaranteed 3 points choy, but we’ve certainly got a very good chance of dropping less points than our rivals.
Sunderland, Burnley, Bolton, West Ham, Wolves, City, Fulham at home, we SHOULD win all of those, though obviously City will be a bit harder.
Stoke, Hull, Birmingham, Spurs, Wigan, Blackburn. None of those are absolute gimmes, as no away games are, but they certainly aren’t in the top few toughest away games in the league
They always do Keyser. I thought the second goal and build up was really good. As for people slating Denilson at least he shoots. You won’t get deflected goals of you don’t as fat frank. I think beach boy should have closeed pienar down a bit better.
in line with the theme of today’s post
Arsene’s hands are tied. the whole world is against him. the sheikhs, russians, pope, mafia, CIA, FA, CAF, Adebayor etc etc
gambon, point being?
SUGA3 – dude, I’m not saying Alumnia’s the greatest ever, but ffs, Pienaar had 40 yards around himself of clear space to run into and you’re saying Almunia should’ve positioned himself a yard here or there.
Pienaar had enough time to run to the right touchline and re-create Dejan Savicevic’s 40 yard lob from the 1994 European Cup final.
Cotto Says:
January 11, 2010 at 16:01
jaguar, that is just plain rude.
i believe you are just a fan.. not a supporter of the club.
there is a big difference.
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I am a supporter of Arsenal than Mr.Wenger.There is a big difference between the former and the latter
supporting the party line is for certain types of “individual”
i prefer to make my own decisions based upon what i see and believe.
nothing worse than witnessing a case of cherry blossom poisioning unfold.
SUGA,
Your analagy is sweet!
Cotto
Im saying your record of being booted off here says a lot about you.
Wenger is part of Arsenal at the moment Jaguar, therefore is you aren’t supporting him, then you aren’t supporting the club….
exactly jaguar
are you more worried about how successful the manager is or the club?
if you want to see us in oodles of unsustainalbe debt whilst the clubs longevity is placed in danger.. but the manager is successful
than you are different to me pal… the club comes first.. and i am glad we have a manager who feels the same way.
Franchise – Rest whatever you like, I know how upset you get.
I want Wenger to get in someone that’ll be more than just a panic buy.
yes it does gambon, its says i rattle certain individuals.
but why? if you give it.. you should take it.
SUGA3 Says:
January 11, 2010 at 16:19
AW thinks that if he acts like he is skint, all the clubs will bend over and let him fuck’em…
it’s not like you can go to Ritz for dinner, then moan that you only have £3.99 in your pocket, is it?
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Class SUGA, simply class.
(after Gambon 16:05) not one to bear a grudge, well usually, but, this list still brings a lot of pain and while winning the league this year would be fantastic it would only ease not erase the past failures
so out of plus 10 to minus 10, with minus 10 being painfulest
- Losing to UTD last year CL semi — (minus 10 out of 10, bloody embarrassing and in a pub full of Mancs)
- Losing to Liverpool 2008 CL QF — (minus 5, more anger than pain or embarrassment)
- Losing to PSV 2006-7 CL 2nd Round — (minus 3, nearly over it)
- Losing to Chelsea last year FAC semi — (minus 5, as Liverpool above but with more embarrassment)
- Blowing league 2007-8 — (minus 7, more sorrow than anger)
- Blowing CL final 2006 — (minus 10, chance of a lifetime down the toilet, still gutted)
- Blowing LC Final 2007 — (minus 1, if we’d learnt from it, nearer minus 5 seeing as Everton just proved we haven’t)
Nasri was the only player near pienar. Where was the defence?
goonermichael – Did they show how Denilson got injured ?!
If any of our strikers had that much space and time, would you expect them to score ?! Actually I think any of our players would have had a good chance. Vermaelen would’ve slotted, Gallas, Traore even Sagna.
A,
I disagree with that, you can absolutely support a club/organisation whilst wanting certain individuals out.
Cotto
Totally agree.
Keyser if wenger is panic buying in January then what does that say of the structure?
The centre backs were up the the corner gm, and denilson was covering, but went down injured. Sagna had gone to overlap on the right side I think? Where was traore though??
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Btw talking about the game, what do you guys think of Pienaar as a player? I ask this as I am South African and always enjoy seeing our boys do well!!!
he has a habit of doing very well against us, jeffers
i’m sure he was outstanding for ajax??? against us a while back too
was a pearler he got saturday.
“I rate the ritz” said Wenger. “But we are not on the case, we have many internal solutions, restaurants here at London Colney. To go to the ritz would kill our own restaurants”
goonermichael – It was from a corner, so we usually have a couple of players back, Nasri went over to Cahill I think to close him down.
Denilson would’ve tracked Pienaar but he was down injured, I think someone like Clichy might have been able to close him down though.
He is only part of the club,A,not above the club.So he can simply fuck off,if he keeps on continuing with his obsession of kids,and the square pegs in round holes policy.
“I will be taking my chequebook to the ritz” Said Wenger “the fans will be reassured by what they see”
denilson didn’t get injured.. cahill just passed the ball to pienaar.
both denilson and nasri were marking cahill.
oops sorry.. denilson was down !!
A – Traore went over to whoever had the ball, Nasri half ran over to help him out and Pienaar was already running through by then.
He spent 3.5 million on 17 years old kid as if we are short of kids. He should be able to find out very good goalie for few more millions with his vast network. He just too obsessed with these kids and getting fame for identifying raw talent. That is the impression i get it from most of his interviews.
Being a Arsenal, i myself con’t take most of his interviews where he gloats as if he is the only intelligent manager on the planet. I am not sure how others fell about his interviews.
traore and nasri were closing cahill down.
Franchise – I dunno, what does it say ?! He hasn’t bought anyone yet.
Francis Jeffers, no problem.
Regardless of how the posts come across, love of the club is always there… you simply wouldn’t run a blog if it was any other way… it’s far too much effort.
Oh, and South African women are beautiful looking… mad… but they staved off the McDonalds love in the Brit Chicks are into!
not buying early doesnt stop one from panic buying
the truth is we needed to act fast but we havent exactly
lets see what happens this week
Im sorry to say this guys but Almunia will get us knocked out of the CL on the away goals rule.
I am dreading the goals he will let in against Porto at home.
fack me.. it was rosicky who lost the ball !!!
Franchise, if someone buys their Christmas shopping early, everyone praises their organisation skills.
Only the idiots get theirs late… and men.
Cotto
Wenger is so close. He could have both success and sustainability if he took the extra step
pedro if really we are struggling to find players better than we have at the moment then we should be doing doubles yearly
I hear we will be signing the biggest of them all. AW want a replacement of himself, hehehe
AS, it’s easy to say I can’t… and make a million excuses as to why.
If I said that as a kid I’d get a right telling off.
Some firm I used to work with used to say, ‘No problems, just solutions’. I liked that…
Franchise, the only thing that stops players being available is desire.
Gazzap
I don’t need to ask if you went to the game, from your summery I know you did.
Sorry, that reply was in response to Arsenal station who wrote this is yesterdays post:
VP is out for season
Bendtner might return soon. what are we to expect? its not like its TH14 returning
Wenger doesnt trust Eduardo centrally
Vela and Walcott are not ready
if i were wenger i would loan out one of vela, eduardo or walcott and bring in a CF to suit our current needs
they are all quite tiny nippy forwards. we need someone that can give us some physical presence up front
also denilson???? why not loan him out until the summer and bring someone in who would fight song for the no 1 spot??? who wants denilson is the Q?
we definitely need a CB. Is it that hard to sell Phillipe Senderos?
i will leave GK until summer. Fabianski should suffice for now
Who by the way has stolen your avatar London.
I don’t know if there are any copyright lawyers you could get in touch with…
thanks for the replay choy
at 28 seconds the commentator got it right
cunt-a-racking
before amending it to counter-attack
and we should recognize that Cahill did a good job to play such a great ball when double-teamed, we were tactically and physically beaten, not just for that goal but more generally throughout the game
but we are so inconsistent that bodes well for the Bolton game?
dont know Ray.. at least our talisman is back
Ivory Coast goalless with Burkina Faso at half time, Ivory Coast better win!
arsenal are like a bank now its all about money to them. i realy hope wenger goes after this season and takes hes youth policy with him. i cant belive hes waiting for bentner to come back the guy is shit. only 1goal this season for bent52.arsenal need a new start a new idea. trust wanker ant gonna sing no one this month or this summer.i think hes getting money under the table.
thing is, Song would be there to make Pienaar’s life difficult enough to allow TV & Billy to run back…
is it not what a holding midfielder should do?
Yeah SUGA3 – that goal happened because Denilson was injured, pure and simple!
A, and the entire team switched off.
and goal scoring CB’s gallas and verm were trying to score!
A,
Denilson was not where he was supposed to be…
he had a very, very poor game, he got exposed for what he is…
the only player in our half was Nasri, ffs – how is that ‘intelligent, with game reading ability next to none’?
Yeah Pedro, we would’ve hoped someone would’ve noticed that Denilson was down and dropped back to cover, but we were just in a goal getting mindset at that point, starting to turn the screw.
Pedro the truth is Denilson is not good enough to be a Song replacement
he is an ok midfielder but if NAsri and Rosicky are fit i know who i wld prefer to partner cesc and song
Denilson was injured and down SUGA, which is why he wasn’t where he should’ve been, and why they scored
one defensive stalwart in the midfield with 2 creative gems
denilson is neither a great defensive stalwart nor a creative gem
Also – Denilson did not have a “very, very poor game”. He was average, just as every Arsenal player on the pitch was, apart from Diaby who was better, and Ramsey who was worse imo
I think Denilson could be good enough… I thought he was more advanced than Song this time last season.
denilson will be great in about 2 years time.
he needs to get stronger.
A, it was a poor game.
Costing the corner that caused the first goal from a piss poor pass… the playing the rest of the game very averagely and getting over run constitutes a poor game to me.
I agree Pedro, Denilson is absolutely fine imo at DM. The whole team couldn’t get going and couldn’t cope with the speed with which Everton pressured us, the same as against Liverpool, where Song was playing. It wasn’t Denilson’s fault. Denilson should be fine against Bolton away.
Evening
I thought it was Traore who stopped tracking back. Whoever it was someone let Pienaar run, these things happen when you are pressing for a winner. He took it well and made Coco look a clown again.
Good to see TR back. He brings a different dimension to the team. And Eduardo is looking sharper.
Yeah I agree with that Pedro, he cost the first goal, but scored our first goal, so that evens it out for me. After that I’d say he was average, not overrun, but not able to give us a foot hold in the midfield.
choy micah richards was strong when he was 16
i dont see denilson becoming a bison anytime soon.
one of denilsong has made the desired flump. the other has to go IMO
Pedro.
Denilson needs Cesc or Song. He was asked too much with a novice like Ramsey alongside him. If anyone is to blame, it is AW.
We could have played Silvestre at LB and Traore further forward, thus creating a more defensive team.
But fairplay to Everton, for 80 minutes they were excellent
all people on here that want all these world class signings with a 40million budget could you suggest to me who you would buy that would strenghten our squad???
AB, Behrami for £7million, Adriano for free and Sol Campbell for free.
Kenwynne Jones
Chamakh
Dzeko
AB,
- Matuidi for £8-10M
- Cetin for £8-9M
- Podolski for £10-12M
its the lack of streetwisdom that really pissed me off with denilson. he knows he is easily pushed off the ball but he keeps holding on to it like he is trying to prove something
he should learn from Cesc he plays to his strengths and works behind the scenes to improve his weaknesses
since he made the first team as a fragile 17 year old cesc has hardly ever looked out of his depth even against the big boys remember Juve and MAdrid in 2005/06 champions league????
and Traore for £3.5M for a good measure
Arseblogger
Who said we have £40m?? I dont remember anyone?!
As for what it’ll buy you, i dont know, maybe
Henry
Vieira
Gilberto
Vermaelen
And youd still have £12m change!
arseblogger, Dzeko for 25mill and a CB for fifteen would be a good start
i would sell or loan out another two and buy a DM
Arsene knows
AB,
no transfer rumours to write about, eh?
nonne of which bar dzeko are better than what we have…
gambon too true 40million is some mad cash
jeez for once we could try pay 20 or more for a football player
we could get 2 world class players for that cash
arseblogger ever heard of luis fabiano?
jeez 40million the more i think of it the more i go gaga
haha, of course not AB.
Nik B is way ahead of Adriano! Sol Campbell is a solid back up and Behrami could do a great job in midfield with his power and tenacity.
Saying no one is better than what we have is such a silly thing to say…
Especially with some of the names that have just been mentioned!
It’s not always finding something better, it’s sometimes about finding something that is different.
true arsenal fans like yourselves should know big money signings will never happen…
Denilson is the next Falcao
even Nasri is Hlebish these days
there are too many players to mention
arseblogger u asked a question and we gave u answers
fair play to sit on the wads of cash if we win the league and CL this year
As our official budegt is now 40 million bucks, i would sign;
- Dzeko
- Capoue
- Zapata
Would cost maybe £43m, but hey, we can sell someone at the end of the season, and sendy now.
God bless u too arseblogger
Arseblogger,
Whats the matter? Im worried about your state of mind! Dont do anything stupid!
haha, couldn’t see that coming AB!
Comes on, gets his question answered, has nothing intelligent to reply with.
What a muppet…
i bet u feel foolish now CUNT
Who’s Capoue ?!
Cetin is a monster, Matuidi is quicker and more tenacious than Denilson (who is NOT a DM), Podolski is a quality player with good injury recird and at 24 with some resale value…
how is something below £15M a ‘big money signing’?
AB, you can’t call everyone a prick then come back on a different name.
Alfie, so if it was that bad, that makes you a little bit of a sad blog nerd for firstly reading it and secondly commenting on it, me I would never comment on a site I didn’t like.
But them me, unlike you have my own mind.
As for sarcasm being the lowest form of wit, says who? I think sarcasm and irony if well written are really quite funny.
any guesses on the subject of AB’s tomorrow’s post?
Geoff dont mind the haters, IMO today’s post is a classic
Keyser
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89tienne_Capoue
For me as good as the more famous Moussa Sissoko.
Suga, it wasn’t the real Arseblogger, it was someone trying to cause trouble.
Someone else comes on as Gunnerblog playing the same games…
Thanks Franchise, the funny thing is dipsticks like him really miss the point!
gambon – Good name as well Aurelian. Sounds like something from the Never Ending Story.
I didn’t know there were any other Arsenal blogs!
Geoff,
I would just like to point out that “alfie” above, is not me, and a cheap imposter.
I, personally, survive on sarcasm..
i am goner u ass licker
I know mate!
Once you go Grove you don’t back!
Once you go Grove you don’t go back!
podolski couldn’t play as the central striker so no sure why we’d want him – he’d just be another vela. Adriano would be quality if his head is in the right place, big if tho!
i thought i was once you go black
any suitable words rhyming with grove?
Once you go Grove you don’t move…
lol @ Alfie Noakes
I wouldn’t know Franchise! You tell me
Blog on Le Grove, whilst heating the stove…
Not very good.
A,
what? RvP had to adapt as well…
it was *
Once you’re a Grover, you’re a project youth loather!
once u go grove, u become negatove
rvp is a different type of player, and bigger and stronger. Podolski is a mix of Eduardo and Vela, he’d never play central, if he played in our system he’d be a left winger
i do like alou diarra of bordeaux
Denilson will get stronger.. he’s only 21.. am sure he’ll be good once he reaches 24-25.
You’re not allowed to hit the gym at arse before a certain age i think.
“Once you go Grove you don’t go back!”
Are you PJ or Duncan ?!
choy its not about gym. its about natural strength
I’m going back to the states soon to met up with old Uni mates and we’re hitting up one of our old locals in New Jersey, The Grove no less!
Read Geoff in the morning for your daily Arsenal warning!
This is from last October
Behrami chased by Arsenal and Milan. Switzerland international Valon Behrami is reportedly a transfer target for Arsene Wener and Milan boss Leonardo.
The West Ham United midfielder has been deeply impressive for the London club since his £5m move from Lazio last year.
The versatile 24-year-old has only recently returned to action at Upton Park after a lengthy absence through a knee injury he sustained against Manchester City towards the end of last season
Despite this, speculation is mounting over a potential return to Serie A, with Juventus and Roma also believed to be interested in securing his services.
It is thought Gunners chief Arsene Wenger is keeping close tabs on Behrami just in case first-choice right-back Bacary Sagna is poached by Real Madrid but with AC Milan’s interest he may have a fight on his hands.
However, the players agent has dismissed the possibility of a January move with the World Cup finals in sight, and insisted that any potential suitors must be patient and wait until the summer.
Alessandro Beltrami speaking to The Daily Star said: “It is possible for him to move after the World Cup next year but not before then.
“He doesn’t want anything to affect his place in the Switzerland squad.”
It is franchise, but with age you do get stronger as well..
ivory coast drew with burkina faso
It was kind of funny, Drogba actually looked like he was being bullied.
24-25?
so what, are we to put up with 3-4 more years of THAT?
grrrrr…
all right, going home, laterssss…
Is the shitty game on or has it been called off?
Choy, its still on. 8PM BST.
Back to arseblogger
The players don’t have to be better than we have to make us stronger. If you have 2 nicky b’s one can play while the other is injured
bnsb Says:
January 11, 2010 at 09:57
DM10,
OK so Wenger buys no one in and we finish the season
with no silverware, what happens then?
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OK so Wenger buys no one in and we finish the season
with silverware, what happens then???
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Then great…but do you really believe that will happen?
What a load of bollocks that article was wenger better then ferguson the trophy’s speak for themselves
Yer BBK.
Bullshit. Wenger is too stubborn to be better than Ferguson.
If he was better then where are our trophies
Wenger is shit with transfer’s and tactics.
He is only good at saving money and selling players at high prices….
feck me, ivory coast drawing with them is the equivalent of england drawing against the faroe islands.
Not sure how true this is….but anyone Jack Wilshere’s friend of facebook? He says he’s starting at Bolton? I thought he was injured?
Not true at all David, teams aren’t decided until the day before the game. I’ve seen his profile before on Facebook, either just made up and not him at all, or mates of his control it and take the piss.
I hope Wenger retires when his current contract expires in around 18 months’ time…..
He says he is in no rush to re-sign. I hope he does not re-sign!!!
samir, who would be first choice to replace him?
samir if lookat the players wenger has bought over his tenier at the club henry petit viera henry berdkamp overmars edu pires lumberg i can go on and on sorry mate but wenger one of best at spotting players making them top class wenger never bought player fully cooked he made top class has made mistakes abolutly but say is shit with tranfers and tactics sorry disagree there
Cotto, someone who is not afraid to spend the dough.
786,
just as I was about to say the same…
great minds and all that…
78692 – somebody like rafa benitez? he is not frightened to spend the loot… 220M over 5 season says so anyway.
what you think?
Right, who wants a row?
Denilson was not down for their goal. He went down after that. Sorry if someone already cleared that up!
Cotto,
it’s not the point – I would rather have AW spending…
there is a lot between being a Scrooge and being a mug of a chequebook manager…
it’s hardly ever good to go extreme – we have net profit in the transfer dealings over 13 years…
Samir, stop talkin bollocks!
No he wasn’t Zorro! He was down when we had the corner, tried to get to his feet, stumbled along a bit, then stopped. Then when we took the centre he properly collapsed.
The reason Piennar ran through totally unchallenged was Denilson not being capable of tracking back because of the injury
suga3 – is that a bad thing?
He was down for the 2nd goal Zorr0. I thought there was confusion but I watched it back on the highlights.
He also went down a few minutes later when they nearly got the third
Zorr0,
depending on if you want to say that he is great player or shit…
Gazidis seemed pretty confident that Arsene will sign a new deal next year. He always leaves his contract discussions late and this time will be no different. To be honest, I would be absolutely shocked if he did not renew his contract.
B.B.K., the point of the article on Wenger/Ferguson is that a manager has a greater responsibility to a club than just immediate results. What good is a trophy of two if the debt you acquire to get them sees you off to mid-table or worse for years to come. Ferguson appears better because he is selfish and spent summer after summer despite knowing all the debt his club was forced to take on. He could care less what happens to United after he leaves.
All those who watch Arsenal challenge for trophies for the next 10 years after he is gone will still have him to thank. At least, that’s how I see it.
Denilson was down, the video was posted up top.
He got clattered by Neville, probably felt it before and tried to fight on.
no suga, the video speaks for itself.. regardless of whether or not he is a good/bad player.
Cotto,
it is if you need to spend and you don’t…
when was the last transfer window he did NOT spend in?
Marco van Basten
Guus Hiddink
Neil Banfield
Dennis Bergkamp
Ernesto Valverde
The ball came out from the corner and Den got battered by ugly sister #2 and went down and stayed down. I thought that was ages before Rocisky gave away the ball for the 2nd goal?
When he was shot by the jap sniper, they nearly got the 3rd.
Or am I imagining the first bit.
Suga, jury out on Den.
did he spend enough?
do we have enough squad depth?
do we fuck…
so a manager who has never won the premierhsip.. hmm
be a tough task.
suga – maybe he should have payed 25M for arshavin instead of 15M?
12 angry men have spoken:
Not. Good. Enough.
as far as DM position is concerned, that is…
I actually like him in more advanced position
Haven’t posted here in a long while, although I do tune in everyday without fail! Kuranyi has rejected a £3.5m move to Sunderland. Aged 27, 6ft3, very strong, can put em away and got a great header on him. I think £3.5m is worth it!
Zorro choy posted a video at 1630 where you can see it, Den was banged into again and down when Rosicky lost the ball. Was a difference instance to the original clattering though, and before the collapse which happened when we took the centre
PTG, cheers mate, just went up and checked it out, did not realise he was jellynecking at that point too, fucking jessie!
I blame Nasri, he should have tracked SP and left Traore to hold up Cahill, bygetting sucked in he made the pass easy!
Wenger seems to get worse every bloody year…..
Talking bollox? WTF? OK so if we win NOTHING this season then what would you lot think??? Give him another season?
We are Arsenal FC, a top European club. Not some shit team that wins nothing or maybe a trophy once every 5 years.
Samir Wenger has said if we win nothing this season then it’s time for an overhaul.
We’re a top European club because Wenger has turned us into a top European club.
How are we getting worse every year, we’re much better this year, in all the proper competitions, and right up at the top of the league with a very good chance.
Cotto,
that is just silly – what are you trying to prove?
yes, like I said, keeping up with the pack, spending what he did is nothing short of brilliant, but it’s annoying that we are paying zillions to scouting network that couldn’t find a ready made player if he bit them on the arse…
Samir, you said
Wenger is shit with transfer’s and tactics.
You also mentioned Neil Banfield.
That my son, is talking bollocks!
A,
fuck me, we are not TOP – do you seriously think we can win CL?
without a single CL to our name, we are NOT a ‘top European Club’…
I concur Zorro! Utter gibberish!
Suga3 – “fuck me, we are not TOP – do you seriously think we can win CL?
without a single CL to our name, we are NOT a ‘top European Club’…”
Whose point are you trying to prove here ?!
El Tel Says:
January 11, 2010 at 14:40
Bendtner our Scandinavian saviour. Thats the answer.
Johnny Jensen, anyone Shoooooooooooot
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Its so frustrating.
Arshavin playing in the middle should be taking on the defenders and trying to score.
Most of the time, he tries to pass and he is a passenger ..
Samir, are Marseilles, Porto and PSV top European sides then? How about Nottingham fucking forest?
Keyser,
I am not trying to prove anybody’s point – MY point is that we are currently unable to beat top sides, are we?
and please, don’t say Liverpool – they are a shadow of former selves…
SUGA3 we were in the top 4 in Europe last season, top 8 the year before, top 8 year before that, and top 2 year before that.
I’d say we’re one of the top clubs in Europe now….
Yeah we certainly CAN win the Champs League, though I don’t think we will this season.
I agree Wenger was once a brilliant Manager.
Sadly I believe he no longer has it in him.
We do well every season though A. It also seems every season we fall apart at some point in the season.
Wenger just needs a few more players and we would be right in there. But we all know he won’t buy anyone. Too much bloody faith in a not good enough squad.
I’m predicting we fall apart between Wed 27 Jan -February.
It will be a same old same old season. No trophies. No nothing. Wenger talks shit at the end of the season says he will buy. He buys no-one and the same thing repeats itself…..
David that was 4 hours ago, let it go, let it go..
A Says:
January 11, 2010 at 16:23
Wenger is part of Arsenal at the moment Jaguar, therefore is you aren’t supporting him, then you aren’t supporting the club….
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Hahahaha…lol A!
I supported Jaunde Ramos does that make me a spud?
A,
please, we had piss easy draw and we barely managed to beat shit Roma side on penalties, and the performance was far from convincing…
you can tell that to someone in 20 years time, when no one will remember or care to watch it…
tbf suga, i personally rate vermaelen
why dont you?
i think the scouts did a grand job on picking him up and i would say he is a ready made first team player.
Well Zorro it is my opinion Wenger has lost his touch as a great manager.
If you think he is a brilliant manager you think what you want.
When was the last time he won a trophy?
No David, that wouldn’t make any sense now would it.
A,
and oh, ‘top 2 before that’ – we have lost, remember?
that team would wipe the floor with team consisting of ‘goalkeeper’ Almunia and ‘defensive midfielder’ Denilson…
Arsenalstation, Ferguson hasn’t plunged the club into the shit… the Glazers did!
I read your post… it’s not xenophobic to assume that, it’s the truth. That really was an odd thing to say.
Cotto,
yes, I rate Vermaelen too – we would be fighting for Europa League places with Bindippers if it wasn’t for him…
but as they say: one swallow doesn’t make a relationship
at this point, one injury (Billy) and we are fucked…
i feel when wenger pushed to move to emirates he new what he was doing and was full awear that money was going to be tight and rightly or wroungly he went down the rout of younger players and if look through history if look at the players that have left almost all of them have gon into decline.yes its taken some of these players some time but more often than not wenger gets it right
A Says:
January 11, 2010 at 18:58
Samir Wenger has said if we win nothing this season then it’s time for an overhaul.
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Wenger also said to judge him in May 2009.
Wenger also said he would make signings (plural) after we were supposed to judge him.
Wenger also said we would be challenging for tittles May 2008.
Wenger has also stated that ALWAYS had money to spend…
I wouldnt take anything Wenger says seriously.
Suga3 – If I say anything, no matter how reasonable or rational you’re just going to go off on one.
If I say Villa, lowest goals conceded in the Premiership, beat Liverpool, United and Chelsea, have their full team out, good on set pieces and we beat them with injuries, kept a clean sheet and won 3-0.
You’re going to come out with rubbish like they couldn’t even make it in the Europa league.
Selfishly taking his club to back to back Premierships and back to back Euro finals and a league cup just for good measure.
Fabregas,RVP,Arshy etc won’t wait until the likes of Denilson,Bendtner and Walcott make it.
Jaunde Ramos was Spuds manager at the time i was supporting him. I was just following that logic if I dont support the manager then I dont support the club…in order words the reverse must be true? No?
Samir, I did not say he was brilliant, you said he was shit. I have evidence of your opinion, you are making mine up! Work for the sun do you?
No David, the reverse isn’t true.
If one supports a club, then they support all the working parts of that club.
It doesn’t follow that if one supports a part of a club, they support the whole club.
Keyser,
it’s not rubbish, it’s a fact, is it not?
Pool are shit and ManYoo are considerably weaker than last season…
So id David a Spud or not ?!
Suga3 – What is ? Liverpool are weaker so what ? So are United, the points what ?!
I knew when we sold Ade in the summer there would come a time we would have to rely on Bendtner….and that filled me with sorrow and dread.
Wasting another season for a couple of millions is just borderline insane.
We dont need world class players. Just people who can do a job when called upon visa vi…hold the line and can play with back to goal etc etc etc…
fuck me, enough of the small club mentality…
great stadium? check.
more than enough cash to spend? check.
good base of players to add to? check.
willingness to take the step further? fuck…
the point is that you are trying to make beating Villa look like some superhuman achievement of beating a ‘top’ side, arguing that they managed to beat ManYoo, Chavs and Pool…
fergie done grand for himslef, eeked out a good couple of years following his initial retirement
good fucking luck the next fucker that comes in.. they will be chopping and changing managers for years to come…. no manager without the resources fergie has had will get close to his ahcievements.
totally fucked up.
Pedro, SAF is just as responsible as the Glazers. He spends the money. he knows the financial situation.
Suga3 – “without a single CL to our name, we are NOT a ‘top European Club’”
So should we or should we not have a small club mentality ?!
Zorr0 you must enjoy ending the season with nothing each year…..
Your the sort of person that believes Wenger’s lies….
We could actually win the treble this season, and some Gooners would still say “we’re shit, we only won the league because Chelsea and Utd were crap, got an easy draw in the Champs League, and the FA Cup isn’t important”
Keyser you wish.
A,
Well then once Again i dont follow your logic.
The Glazer family are part of United how many United fans support them?>
“the point is that you are trying to make beating Villa look like some superhuman achievement of beating a ‘top’ side, arguing that they managed to beat ManYoo, Chavs and Pool…”
No, I’m not, I’m trying to gauge what perspective you’re coming from. No matter what anyone says you’re just going to try to turn it around.
We’re 3rd in the league, 3 points off top.
Keyser,
no, we should not – if you aim high, you achieve, simple as…
tell me what do we do if Billy gets injured? play Silvestre? or Senderos?
oh yeah, we will promote Bartley, problem solved…
David – Why would I wish you were a spud ?!
Has everyone gone mad on here.
Keyser,
be realistic, ffs – without additions, we won’t go any higher than second…
Chavs will wipe the floor with us at SB without a serious striker on our books…
Pat – so Redknapp was partly responsible for the Portsmouth problems and O’leary for the Leeds probs.?
of course they were goonerman
lol Samir, stop it, you are making this too easy. Why do you keep presuming to know my opinion on AW?
Suga3 – I am realistic, we’re 3rd ffs, 3 points off top, with shedloads of injuries.
The transfer window isn’t over and we’ve got players who are going to come back.
You’re going on like we’re miles off top, have no chance in hell and we should just give up.
Well arsenalstation you see it wrong
well said, keyser
fantastic to get see some solid posts on here.
Pat, you spend what you’re given as a manager.
He’s delivered silverware and increased the companies turnover as a result.
The debt of united lies firmly at the door of the Glazers.
They’d be making £60 mill profit if they didn’t have to service that debt.
GM, was it dol who bought seth johnson and paid him a fortune. If yes, then I think that answers your question.
Did twitchy and storrie rip money off one of the involved parties in transfers at pompey?
Well then Keyser why ask the question?
There should be no doubt in your mind one way or another innit?
Besides…was exactly directed towards you was it?
So you felt the need to contribute.
3rd in the League is 3rd in the Leauge.
3 points of the top is 3 points off the top.
We finished with 4 points of the top 2 seasons ago and were wait for it 3rd in the league.
Dont know bout you but id rather be 1st. Is all im saying.
and for the sake of what? a lousy few million quid?
we would recoup that selling ‘Champions 2010′ merchandise – we can’t sell ‘runners up’ stuff though, as it would be like selling the 4:4 derby DVD
David – fuck knows, you’re the one going on about supporting Juande Ramos.
Of course Goonerman!
The clubs provide them with money, but its up to them to be responsible with it!!
Both has been shown up as shit checkbook managers.
SAF is a very good checkbook manager, but nonetheless a checkbook manager which takes the shine off him imo.
I rate many managers over him. He was shown up as a flop without the cash when he first came and was almost sacked. Once he got the money available he started working his magic
Rather be first glad we’re not last, keep some perspective is all I’m saying.
Keyser,
we should have these signings made and incorporated by now…
relying on Denilson to play holding role is a pisstake – he is not good enough and will again get exposed by Bolton…
and I LIKE HIM – he is just not a DM…
Pat, I think when you sell your star man for £80million… you can be forgiven for the odd dodgy signing.
I’m psychic.
we’ll see SUGA, I expect him to be absolutely fine against Bolton
suga i dont its matter of how much money you have its also what availeble in the market unless my hearing is wroung i never hear wenger evon once say that he defenetly going get striker he is he is looking and if the right player is availeble then he would make move and from what have been reading some fans have selective hearing have certain expectations because i never hear wenger come out make promises that he going to get a player in this position or another position wenger does not do that ever
Keyser
But i did support Jaunde Ramos. He’s a Spurs Legend. Well very well on his way.
And it wasnt even about supporting Jaunde Ramos it was about making a point see thats the problem when you feel the need to jump into other peoples conversations.
Seems like you’re satisfied with being 3rd.
Pedro, without the CR sale, they’d be negative.
Rio 30 mil
Carrick 20 mil
Shrek 30 mil
Berba 30 mil
Veron 30 mil
have all contributed to the most recent debt.
Nani, Anderson a combo worth 35 millionish
SAF has THROWN out money and is partially responsible.
United fans blame everything on the Glazers ffs.
If they were to miss out on CL football, they’d have to sell. They’d be in trouble.
And if the new Uefa rules come into affect, which they will(and rightfully so), then there will be big changes for them. LPool will HAVE to sell Torres.
We won’t be affected, at all.
If we just bloody spent the money and bought the right players. Won a few trophies we could make a load of the money back from winning the competition and shit like advertising etc as Real Madrid have done with Ronaldo!
The thing is, SAF has had many dodgy signings.
Pat
SAF isnt a check book manager.
He won the league with a bunch of kids. Which makes seriously scratch my head about Wenger.
Point to prove maybe?
Keyser 18:00, who, pray tell, on the BF team ‘bullied’ Drogba
Pat et all – All clubs have a transfer budget and the Board will advise the Manager what he can spend. Managers are not accountants!
Denilson id going to get owned against Bolton.
They are one of the most physical teams in the PL.
Denilson will have a 0% chance.
I hope he is not fit for the game.
JET would be far better there imo.
Talking of Redknapp, he’s absolutely to blame for Pompey, bought players for silly money and put them on ridiculous wages!
“1928: So I read at the weekend that Patrick Vieira’s decision to return to England is a sign that the Premier League is on the wane. I also read that John Utaka apparently gets paid more than Cesc Fabregas. Any thoughts?”
If that’s true it’s just silly.
Oh right, so the Ronaldo sale doesn’t count?
ManU’s debt can be squarely laid at the door of the Glazers. Fergie has spend what he’s been given, delivered on it and the Glazers have reaped the rewards.
If the Glazers weren’t there, ManU would be recording an actual profit.
is**
A, Utaka gets £80k a week.
cheque…my spelling lol.
JET at DM Samir?! Come on now.
With Cesc back, and Bolton just not being very good these days, Denilson should be absolutely fine against Bolton, as should we in general.
Pat.. a cheeky bid for torres is due in the summer.
Pat, all managers have dodgy signings!
Wenger has had more than his fair share!
leon,
do you seriously believe in this stuff?
hmmmm, now where did I hear this before?
oh yes, the last transfer window…
and the one before…
and one before that…
ever since DD left, we are bereft of any success – I watched Uncle Festa’s interview and it looked like AW wearing a fucking latex mask…
Rather play JET than Denilson? What colour is the sky in your world?
Man Ure were quoted on the Stock Exchange and were a healthy company before the Glazers
A, I have a bone to pick with you…when you say Ramsey is young and so you expect him to be inconsistent, I disagree
I think it’s reasonable to expect him not to be able to play at his highest level consistently, but he has alternated very promising games with really poor ones
with his talent, despite his youthfulness, he shouldn’t be trotting out appearances that poor
Doesn’t matter. They’re responsible for the club, why shouldn’t they be?
I, for one, am not complaining. I cannot wait till the UEFA regulations go into effect. And it will be sooner rather than later.
David, it was much easier to win the league back then although credit to him he did it with kids. Back then, English football was inferior to Italian and Spanish.
Now every club spends decent amounts of cash. Its much harder for kids to compete against teams who rely heavily on spending in modern times.
Suga3 – Denilson’s had one game back from injury ffs,g igve it a chance, there’s also no Fabregas, Van Persie or whoever else in the team.
A – Redknapp did not have the power to do tha, the Chief Exec. did.
Pat, you’re seriously deluding yourself if you think clubs aren’t going to find a way around these rules.
What I’ve seen of JET he seems far better than Denilson.
Bigger,stronger and Faster.
Muamba always tries to prove a point against us. Denilso has no chance imo.
The rest of the team will have to put an extra bit of effort in if we are to get a result….
Pedro – What is the ‘fair share’ ?
What? ivorians drew!
I disagree Ray – it happens with all young players…. Ramsey and Vela currently, VP previously.
Kids like them have talent, but are still learning, they experience different situations for the first time, and come up against different opponents, struggle, and learn how to adapt so that they don’t struggle in the future.
All kids are inconsistent, even the most talented ones, because it takes time to learn how to adapt to different circumstances.
I would happily play my Grandmother instead of Denilson actually….
From what you have seen of JET! What’s that then, last season playing against other kids? Playing a few games, hot and cold for Blackpool?
Ray in SF – “Keyser 18:00, who, pray tell, on the BF team ‘bullied’ Drogba”
You caught me out, watched a little of it, saw these massive defenders around him, heard the commentators talk about how ineffective he’s been and just thought I’d throw it in there.
About half of SAF’s big money signings have been flops!
The treble season was one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever seen and thats why I really started hating United. I’ve never seen such a lucky team. I hate that we never get that type of luck. unbelievable.
They could have easily won fuck all that season, easily!
Pat, and your assertion that manager is responsible for what they spend is wrong.
You spend what you are given. It is the people above who are responsible for the rest. That applies in all business.
Keyser, Francis Jeffers and Richard Wright would be in that ‘fair share’.
Denilson may be OK at AM but as SUGA says he is no way a decent DM!
Depends what situation the companies in and where you want to go with it.
Samir JET is an attacking player, not a DM, he’s got less of a defensive brain than Diaby has.
Muamba is shite, he won’t be a problem at all.
Bolton aren’t anything like the team they were, and we aren’t the push overs we once were. My only worry is the new manager syndrome, though I still don’t understand how Coyle and Bolton will mix together.
Yes Zorr0 that is right!
Well done young boy.
Pedro, who said SAF is given money?
Personally, I believe he demands it!
A,
hahahahahahahaha…
Muamba pisses all over Denilson…
Keyser, if you’re given a marketing budget for Vodafone, you spend it.
Man United can’t be compared to small company watching the pennies. You can’t expect SAF to sift through the financial figures before he makes a buy.
A, IMO Denilson is also an attacking player, not a DM.
he will bully the shit out of him…
Pedro – No, is it a number you’ve just picked randomly, have you given it some thought, or is it just one of those broad ranging terms you throw in for erm ‘good measure’.
Whats the fair share for the manager of a club like Arsenal in comparison to others, and you’ve said Wengers had more than his fair share, so what Wenger’s now crap at transfers and more often than not signs dodgy ones ?!
What is up with people ?!
Probably Pat.
If I demanded £40million off my company and they couldn’t afford it, I’d get told to do one.
lol of course he does SUGA. Is there a midfielder with worse technique in the Premiership?!
Samir Denilson is, always has been, and always will be a defensive rather than offensive midfielder!
Samir,
exactly…
A,
I like Denilson – from what I saw in his last season, he showed great promise, but, just like Diaby, he is played out of position…
Pedro – I don’t mind your comparison, just remember that when it comes to discussin other clubs and Arsenal, because it’s not quite the same.
Come one A… taking the exaggeration a little far there.
A,
there is just no point – Denilson is a great DM, AA would be a ‘worst captain in the whole world’ and the Earth is flat…
we are unbalanced – all flair, no grit: was Flamini a great technical player? was he fuck…
I assume you mean Muamba SUGA??
imo he’s VERY lucky to be playing in the premiership, at best he’ll bang around at that sort of level, he’ll never be good enough to even play in a top half of the prem team, can’t pass, absolutely terrible technique, no footballing brain, he’s just an athlete.
Keyser, just because you support a team, it doesn’t mean you can’t be objective about other clubs.
So Samir, you admit you are making the judgement based on that?
You are not actually very good at this are you!
Wouldn’t call SAF’s treble team young.
From the CL final:
Solsjaer was 26
Sheringham 33
Yorke 28
Cole 28
Blomqvist 25
Johnsen 30 (huge contribution in the CL against Juve)
Stam 27
Schmeicel 36
NONE of those players were United products either and were many of those were the most important in that season. This myth that SAF won with youngsters is very inaccurate.
fergie
Pedro – As long as you apply it all round, if you’re going to go on about business and Fergus’s role at united, don’t try to equate that to what Wenger does at Arsenal, because it’s not the same.
If you were the boards of either clubs, you’d goals and ideas would differ, as they have.
I wouldn’t say it’s an exageration Pedro, I’ve not seen one. Watching Muamba play is worth it just for a laugh, he’ll do one pass or shot per game that has you wetting yourself!
suga you needs get real here were talking buying at supermarket or sweet shop its much better to but the right player not just any player alot fans including have been saying get cb get dm get a striker get rid off delinson song diaby ect and as it turns out wenger quite right these are come through of and as it stands right i dont see many better than song and diaby and ramsey. iam sorry but i dont see the logic in buying players just apese the fans its better to buy the right than buy just for the sake it
When did I say Denilson was a great DM SUGA??
I still don’t get how Arshavin is Russian captain, his lack of effort and interest for us at times is incredible, though he’s entertaining and amazing when he turns it on so is forgiven in my eyes.
flamini wasn’t a great technical player, but was lionel messi compared to muamba
Muamba isn’t very good. You can get a any rugby player to bully opponents!
In fact, that rugby player would most probably have more talent going forward than Muamba!!
His positioning, intelligence, overall play is very average. Make that below average actually..
How would the goals differ Keyser?
pat dont hate the guy is a legend and yes this is an arsenal blog. the truth shall set u free
and we need athletes, ffs…
otherwise, we will be bullied by some shit sides, littered with athletes, we will miss out on the titles and cups ‘undeservedly’ and by mere margins, but we will claim ‘moral victory’ by playing poofy pretty footie…
Before the emergence of Song,
Denilson played about 50 plus games for Arsenal.
As a DM? Certainly not.
Sometimes Right Midfield…and when he played in the center of the park…it was mostly ahead of Fabregas.
How many games did we moan about Cesc having to play too deep because Denilson cant cover the back four for fuck.
Denilson is a decent player. But a horrible DM.
A, I’ve never seen Arshavin perform for us like he does for Russia, barring one game which I can’t recall. But Bendtner missed a lot of sitters that game, I remember.
For Russia, Arshavin gives a lot of effort and his through balls/flick ons are a joy to behold. Unfortunately he plays centrally for them and on the LW/CF for us.
I don’t understand why people want Wenger sacked. I will and always will be an Arsenal supporter, but do you honestly believe there is currently a replacement that can do half the job that Wenger is doing right now? I don’t.
no team with athletes in like muamba, could ever win anything.
Although you need a balance, every player needs to have the required footballing ability
Pedro – Because you’re going to have clubs at different stages of their development and under different pressures, the end goal is the same, whether or not it’s feasible to be attained is something else.
A,
come on, now that is just silly – you are saying all the time that you don’t mind him playing DM, that he is capable to hold his own and other stuff like that…
again, I like the little fella, but in more advanced role – seriously, he is decent if he can go forward, DM is not his game, just like Diaby’s…
Sion, I don’t want him sacked… nor do most. However, there is always someone ready to do a better job.
Life goes on, Arsenal will go on…
Zorr0 Shhhhhhhhhhhh
Pat agree with everything you said…but Arshavin plays on the left for Russia at-times. Kudos for remembering how shyte Bendtner is tho…seems alot of people have convenient amnesia.
SDF i dont want wenger sacked (yet) but there are definitely managers that can take us to the next level
what happens if the dude decides to leave anyway? wont we get a new manager in
So do you think Wenger went into this season, £40mill at his disposal, thinking his team couldn’t win the league?
Pat Rice for a start
Can take to us to another level/ ready to do a better job..
Whether or not that will ever become reality is something else. Thats the point there, there are no guarantees and you have to keep a sense of perspective.
I don’t “want” Wenger sacked.
Just if he delivers no trophies this season I would be happier he left on an OK note rather than fucking us right up!
SUGA3 I disagree though, the reason Denilson is at a top club like us is because of his defensive ability, his reading of the game is exceptional, and if he had the physical ability he could become an absolutely amazing dm. He’s always shown much more defensive than offensive talent when playing for us imo, but defensive he’s a different player to song and flamini obviously.
Physically he’s weak, which is why at times last season with him at DM we were bullied, but with three in midfield we should be fine.
What’s just silly though?
Gotta say I’m with A here… I’ve always seen Den as a DM.
Sion
I dont want Wenger Sacked. This season now more than ever I want him to win the league especially after that debacle at Old Toilet and those disgusting chants.
But his stubborness is his own on doing. I dont like having to hold my breathe every time Gallas limps to the sideliness ffs.
Denilson is not Arsenal quality overall really!
He may grow into being it, but ATM he is not Arsenal quality.
Denilson along with Almunia of course.
Don’t think Bendy is shite. He had a tough time last season but the talent is there imo.
He was really good this season, in my opinion. Not in terms of goals but in terms of contribution from the RW.
lol oh Samir, are you Oscar Wilde’s love child? How can I possibly compete with that!
you are missing the point: I never said you can win stuff with team full of shitkickers, but you need to develop a bit of a mean streak and kick the shit out of someone who tries to kick the shit out of you…
I loved the way Cesc clattered that twat Repka…
Oscar Wilde??
Zorr0 your living in the past bud!
How can I be, I am a boy!
samir this team just tickering nothing more a few cb which will happen jan or summer for sure a striker may be an experienced top dm but the market the way it right now well the past few year no chance of that happening plus song diaby can handle that position and delinson is a good squad player as the finance part this club is in the black if left next a new manger would only have to bit tinkering and add a bit of experience maybe but notrhing more that
A,
‘if he had the physical ability he could become an absolutely amazing dm’
and if grandma had a cock, she would be called grandpa
‘…in every game you gotta have the brains & the muscle, the game and the hustle…’
Ice Cube
Pat
Id agree with you. Except for the small fact that Arsenal dont need a RW at the moment. And the small fact that Pink boots inst a RW.
But ok.
Suga3 – If your grandma had a cock, yu might not be around and you’d have a pretty weird family.
never get that one..
David, he hasn’t been given the chance at CF this season yet.
Keyser,
now that was classy…
phew…
just on skynews. Fergie’s net spend on players under the glazers is £8m
fine ronaldo’s sale has made the figure look healthy but that is what happens when u go for a vw golf rather than a skoda fabia. the golf mostly holds its resale value
What a signing tevez is turning out to be!
The mere fact that we havent made a signing as soon as the window opened is a sign of lack of ambition imo…
Cover at CB…cover at DM and a replacement Striker has been staring us in the face since RVP injury…and yet nothing.
Pat can i submit to you that Bendy has been a shyte CF at Arsenal which is why Wenger moved him to RW?
Fergies also spent more than our net spend since the Premiership began, under the Glaziers in that time.
Take away red noses transfer budget and you will see he is another shit manager!!
Agree with you on the first part David.
We currently have just one fit striker and we need a better DM.
I have always said Tevez was worth every penny…
Its just Ronaldo’s 80 mill thats making it look good.
david i would agree with if this was not scoring so many goals yes there are having work harder for the goals but the fact there scoring and i do think this team can manage without song but cb is a bit concerning a striker would be good but cb cover more important in my opinion
i dont buy wenger propaganda. You would think wenger is the only manager balancing the books
8m net spend
3 league titles, 2 carling cups, 1 champs league
impressive stuff
who wants to count our semi final appearances since 2005?
choy what did u call it? Ronaldo sale. its still balancing the books or isnt it?
the kid delivered 7 major trophies for the manager and made them about £68m profit in the end
How much did he spend previously before hes enforced transfer budget!!
“i dont buy wenger propaganda. You would think wenger is the only manager balancing the books”
Don’t buy it, just don’t make up your own either.
Our net spend since the Premiership began is something like 30 million, Fergie’s got 3 players in his current team thats he’s spent as much on.
Who’s spreading propaganda now and for who ?!
we should beware of kroenke. if he aint rich like roman he should fuck off. these fucking americans are messing the league up
Yep franchise i guess it is!
And we didn’t want to spend a couple of more mill on him!
that would’ve probably gone to sign almunia or someone!
Pedro, I think you’re right to a first approximation that the Board limits what a Manager has to spend
but I would hope it would be a dialog (as a lame sample…)
Manager: give me x million, to avoid relegation; 3x million, to win us a place in Europe; 4x million, to win us the Prem
Board: what can you promise for 2x?
Manager: The Carling Cup?
Franchise, that figure is very, very shady. CR sale covers so much. Go a year back and take those numbers!
Berba-30
Carrick-20
Rooney-30
Rio-30
Nani-16
Anderson-17
Vidic-12
Valencia-17
Tosic-10
Most, besides Rio I think, have been under the Glazers, no?
Denilson must be kidding sell never plays again Adams Keown woul;dn,t go down like that if someone in the stands shot em secure the ball pass then go down
Face facts Fergie is a cheque book manager, take away the c/book and hes the same as most managers!
leon,
yes, I agree, CB must be a priority, as I am petrified every time Billy takes a knock…
then we must do better in DM department – Denilson is a lame duck, call me heartless, but I’d rather ‘terminate’ this ridiculous ‘Project Denilson DM’: fuck that, the whole team is suffering for the sake of his development…
and we seriously need a tall striker – B52 needs competition, seriously…
Richards scored…
he spent 155 and recouped 143
3 league titles 2 carling cups and 1 champs league to show for it
he challenged and surpassedf chelsea with an £8m net spend in 5 seasons
he should be promoted from Sir to anything possibly higher
exactly, here fucking here reggie.
good reaction, good commitment – let’s sign him…
reggie57 until then he is a legend
i think we need more of a cheque book manager
Yeah Arise Sir Cunt!!
franchise…. chelski and roman would die for our model, a proper self sustaining football club.
no mug wants to keep bailing out their club with 300M write off’s every 5 years.
Not a legend in my eyes Fran!!
Franchise,
he has Wal-Mart behind him, if that’s not rich (and sustainable), then I dunno what is…
he is not a speculative smartass Glazer type…
every fucker and his dodgy chairman are now copying wenger’s model of nicking kids young and not paying fortunes for them at 24/25
Pat you can add 10million for Tevez
Heh, Franchise is on his ‘I’ll pretend to be a United fan for the night’ classic wind-ups..
Don’t fall for it..
we set the trend… they follow us.
duke fergie, earl fergie or baron fergie what are your thoughts?
wenger buys too many foreign kids… this was the cry 5 years ago
what the fuck is bacon face doing these days?
baron fergie or bacon face fergie?
amazing if u look at Reals net spend over the next 5 years u will see a profit Maybe add last years -200m u see the truth 80m profit last year changes -88m plus he had already spent 100m mill.
cotto the day some yank borrows money to buy us the sustainable model goes down the drain
what a run that was from Richards!
and that’s Shitty 4 points behind us…
correct.. but that aint happening.. so dont worry about
lift yourself man, dont look for bullshine that aint there
come on come on, where is your spirit? lift us… dont down us.
Cotto who is following us?
Bacon Face?
Did he spend 35 million to buy Roy Keane then?
the day i predict 6 numbers i will offer that filthy bitch off corrie 250 grand for a shag…
until then i will shag rita from around the corner.
did he buy roy keane from lille?
a lot keep throwing the balancing the books argument to back wengers lack of spending which has seen a lack of trophies but im just surprised that sir alex has won 3 b2b2b league titles , 2 carling cup titles and 1 champions league title spending a meagre £1.6m a season over the last five years
did he sign him as a 17 yr old?
yea Precisely Cotto
He signed him as a 17 year old
Who is following who?
Cotto,
and you point is?
Not a legend in my eyes. I can’t consider anyone who depends on cash a legend.
The fact is, SAF was shown up as a flop when he didn’t have the money available and was almost sacked. He started doing well once he started throwing around the cash, and thats a fact.
*your
err bacon face bought keane as a 23 yr old off forest.
that was my point suga.. he was not 17
fergie is now buying foreign kids from brazil, france, portugual and is paying hard for them
Everybody still confident in the top 3 finish? I’m not.
jokers
Franchise – You shouldn’t be surprised, someone as intelligent as yourself should be able to see through the Fergie Propaganda and realise how silly it sounds.
Unless you don’t to of course, to prove a point..
Franch, you chokin’ my chicken or what?
Franchise, once again, no he hasn’t.
Take last years numbers without the CR sale. Those are much more accurate to how much he’s been spending. The facts are twisted when the CR sale is taken into account.
PAt the guy has kept United very competitive for almost 20 years making them one of the most successful sides in Europe in the last 20 years in terms of domestic and european trophies. if its only about money why did scolari, grant and recently hughes get the sack?
Great f@@kin@ post!
fergie was shit for 5 years before he won a bean
gooners would have had him beheaded at the tower
facts are twisted now that it doesnt involve arsenal? lol
if it were wenger that has done this over the last 5 years we wouldnt hear anything else
david? any more to add
“facts are twisted now that it doesnt involve arsenal? lol”
Exactly, what’s odd is an Arsenal fan twisting them to make United and fergus look good..
fuck me, what is the point of signing 17 year olds?
this club has the priorities on its head:
academy -> property developer -> football club
last time I checked, we were called ‘Arsenal Football Club’, ffs…
what a great visionary wenger is they would have said. he paid £12m for ronaldo and sold him for £80m. wow
what is your point suga?
Fran the man has had a bottomless pit of money for the last 18 years!!
fletcher is a bastard
Roy Keane was also signed for a British transfer fee record.
In 2001 Fergie broke the record 3 times within the space of 13 months.
Franchise, Grant did very well for CHelsea and he was sacked because he doesn’t have a reputation. You are oh so daft to be asking these questions.
Franchise, the SIMPLE fact is, he did absolutely nothing without money when he first became manager. It was only once a lot more money became available for him that he started winning with United. He relies HEAVILY on money.
Whats happening grovers! We signed Dzeko yet??
No?, didnt think so!
pmsl , gooners falling over themselves to big up bacon face
pure quality
ahahha eboue
a bastard he is indeed
Gone are the days of AFC, its Arsenal Holdings now!
Cotto,
Wenger is nowhere near being ‘beheaded at the Tower’, despite the Tower being in close vicinity
what is more, some Gooners continue blowing smoke up his arse…
and oh yes: ‘Richards is shit, nowhere near good enough for Arsenal’
mwahahahahahaha…
Ferguson was manager of St. Mirren from 1974 until 1978, producing a remarkable transformation of a team in the lower half of the old Second Division watched by crowds of just over 1,000, to First Division champions in 1977, discovering talent like Billy Stark, Tony Fitzpatrick, Lex Richardson, Frank McGarvey, Bobby Reid and Peter Weir while playing superb attacking football.[14] The average age of the league winning team was 19 and the captain, Fitzpatrick, was 20
my point is that we are missing out on being competitive for the sake of some bullshit principles…
‘we would do a Leeds’, ‘we can win the league with this squad’…
yawn…
bully for him franchise
what the fuck has that got to do with arsenal?
this is an arsenal blog.. manc land is that way
Franchise, Wenger’s Anelka business was much more impressive than the CR deal.
1st off, much more money is wasted nowadays
2ndly, percentage wise, Anelka deal was more profitable. Percentage wise, obviously.
3rdly, Madrid have had 2 eras of Galacticos were they spend enormous amounts of money. Anelka was bought outside these years.
And of course the facts are skewed and you’re skewing them. The CR sale completely is out of hand when comparing over a 5 year period. Take last years numbers and its a whole different, and much more accurate, view.
Franchise, clueless as always
Fergie’s henchmans got Franchise in a headlock, someone call the pohlice…
Dayum Fergie won the Scottish Championship, back then it was like winning the Premiership now.
fergie made a 550% return on ronaldo
wenger made a 2000% return on anelka
case closed your honour.
Cotto Come on man
Giggs joined at 18, Beckham at 16, Lee Sharp at 17, David May 18, Paul Scholes at 16…
Who is following who?
CORRECTION
4000% return
Pat,
but taking Ronaldo sale out of the equation is just twisting facts to suit your argument…
and no, I am not bigging up SAF, I hate the cunt, but credit where it’s due…
and no, I am not ‘clueless’
mwahahahahahaha…
Dont get fresh with me!!!
Pat its not about impressiveness of the deals u not getting my point are you?
david, i mentioned young kids from aboard fella
what countries did beckham, scholes and co come from?
Suga3, let’s sign Cameron Jerome then shall we, he scored this weekend too!
im a cheque book fan who wants more of a chequebook manager
NIgeria needs a finance minister….. wenger can take that role if all he cares is balancing the books
What does it matter? Quality is quality. Foreign or not?
Kids are kids.
even more pressing Nigeria need a President
fergie has has his cock well and truly shined by gooners this evening
fucking sickening scenes.
So Wenger is better at trading players, Fergie is better at winning trophies.
When they start giving out the premier league to the manager that made the most profit in the transfer window that will be very useful.
Franchise – Your point was silly, give up.
David – Wenger was signing Henry for Monaco around about then.
david, my point about who is following who.. was centred around the moans about wenger flooding the game with young foriegn kids
fergie now does that… without any complaints
that was my point fella
come on mate, get with it or get out.
fuck me, he didn’t just score, his ran thw whole length of the pitch, he has potential to be a monster, plus he is a Gooner – perfect!
but oh no, he is a party boy, the devil incarnate, he would contaminate our team of fucking choir boys…
and oh, as I type this, Tevez scores…
cotto my best shag ever was a spurs fan
spuds out of the top 4
did you pipe him or did he pipe you, franchise?
gambon 8m net spend under the glazers 3 pl, 2cc, 1 cl
she was a fit she
course he was
Keyser,
and Monaco told him to do one, after he started this kiddie nonsense…
Keyser Says:
January 11, 2010 at 21:03
Roy Keane was also signed for a British transfer fee record.
In 2001 Fergie broke the record 3 times within the space of 13 mont
—————————–
Keane was signed for 3.5 million…Blackburn had offered 4m…Keane chose to go to United…otherwise be it a record breaking transfer deal it was hardly a exclusive to United.
Didnt we buy DB10 at a british record?
cotto
Oh i thought the moan was about signing kids in general and the whole peado chants thing.
My mistake. Still dont see what the fuss is about though. Fergie has been signing kids long before Wenger.
david, i would leave it alone fella, it went way over your bonnet…
a while back
please – I would love to piss myself laughing, can someone tell me again that Richards is shit and Campbell will be a great signing?
it just doesn’t work when I say this…
SUGA, actually is skews the facts A LOT. We’re talking about a 5 year period. Taking CR out of the equation makes it a lot more accurate because he was a one off! His sale completely alters all the facts!
No, I’d rather keep Wenger at this point. In case you haven’t heard, UEFA will, sooner rather than later(2010/2011 are the dates mooted) make financial rule changes. Not sure if you’ve heard, but as of right now, LPool and United would not be allowed to take place in the CL. Chelsea and Arsenal would.
Also, who gives a flying fuck about SAF’s time inn Scotland?!?! Juande Ramos from Sevilla was much more impressive. 3 pts behind Madrid and Barca despite spending little amounts of money. 2 back to back Uefa cup triumphs.
Talents such as Capel, Navas, Fabiano, Dani Alves!!!!
well richards is shit suga, certainly defensively, but sol would be a terrible signing
SUGA, why do you think Richards is good?
ferguson is a bastard
Pat,
I am all for Wenger continuing in the ‘coldest of the hotseats’, but can someone remind him that we are a football club in the first place?
Pat SAF has 15 division titles incl. 14 first division titles
he is as successful as Arsenal in terms of league titles
eboue
goooooners… sorry to upset the manc fans on tonight
Hey! I loved your ironical sacarsm! It was enchanting to say the least and I for one agree with the sentiments expressed. Have all the money in the bank but win nothing!
This is the true Arsenal style lately under Messuer Venger!!
It’d be an honor to meet the bloke who punched red nose where it hurts
The old saying goes you never go back and in sols case never a truer word spoken!!
A,
no, he is not – it is Toure that is making him look bad…
we need some of ‘his sort’ – arrogant fuckers, they give you the edge…
Richards is much better than we have as backup – absolutely pisses over Djourou, he is stronger mentally than Sendy and don’t get me started on Sly…
I felt insulted by him being made captain in th WHU game…
Pat,
because he is?
Franchise, shouldn’t you be on the mancunian website?
And he relied heavily on money to achieve that. The short period he had without money showed him as a flop in my eyes in what was then a very, very pathetic and weak English league. Yet, he still relied on money.
Toure making him look bad?? He was moved to right back last season because he was such a liability in the centre, and is only playing centrally now because of injuries and toure being away at the anc, he’s an emergency centre back, and pants there!
I don’t rate JD, but I’d have both he and Sendy over Richards.
He’d be a decent sub right back if Eboue left, but that’s it.
Pat,
as I said before, there is still quite a scale between spending bazillions and spending fuck all…
Pat blogs hardly like people like myself that tell the truth
A,
er, he is 21…
Yeah suga, he has time to improve, he could become quality if he gets his head in order, but currently I wouldn’t want him near our team even as a back up centre back.
no franchise, arsenal blogs hardly like manc fans
this is maybe where you are failing pal.. oh and shagging yids
up the ‘arris
SUGA, a legend!
Richards is shit and I wouldn’t say he’s strong mentally. He’s been just as bad as Toure this season, if not worse.
lets compare matt busby and herbert chapman then
I think we should snap him up before ‘Arry does – he will become quite a player and then AW will be rocking in his chair and feeding us the ‘we nearly signed him’ bollocks…
Chapman all the way…
yeah.. honest arry may win another premiership with him in the yid squad.
I hope Everton continue their form and beat Shitty at the weekend.
I am sure this is just new manager syndrome or at least I hope it is, they are in good form. Tevez on fire.
Franchise, you’re not telling the truth. Most United fans even say the CR sale make things look much brighter than they really are.
The most accurate reflection is when CR is not included. That tells the whole story.
yet somehow he keeps his place in the Shitty side and has more England caps than Theo…
yep, he’s shit…
theo is a year younger and has only 3 caps less
Cotto,
OK, I say Richards, don’t ridicule, be constructive, suggest someone else…
can you?
he will make them up this summer at a little summer event… not sure richards will be able to make it.
suggest somebody else for what?
Lol, as if Theos going to the world cup.
Its a stage for good players!
Cotto,
thought you were intelligent – obviously I mean defensive signing…
you mean WC? please – Theo has fuck all chance of making it…
SUGA3 he hasn’t kept his place in the city side, he lost it, then played at right back. At the age of 18 he was an amazing talent at centre back, since then he’s gone backwards, and currently only plays centre back if they have noone else. The talent is still there but the likelihood of him putting his head down and putting the work in to fulfil his potential isn’t massive.
yeah, the stage he went to as a 16 yr old
ok, as a CB i like gary cahill.
now if fergie had cash.. he owuld have smashed into cahill last week for 20m
nice blog btw, suga.
SUGA, Theo is shit. Richards is older.
Richards made his last appearance during Euro qualifiers, no??
Different position, so a stupid argument to make.
He’s only playing because City have many injuries back there. Onouha, Toure, Lescott were all ahead of him when fit, which says a lot
A,
I still think we have missed a trick there – should have bought him for peanuts while Pearce was still there…
but no, it’s better to buy some fucking African kid and struggle to get a work permit and all that…
cheers, Cotto
He was still being offered around for £5 mil at the start of this season SUGA, let alone when Pearce was around. No big club wants him, because of his shocking attitude and his development going backwards.
I’m happier with signing Vermaelen than Richards too, £5 mil more and 2 years older but a world of difference between them.
Not a fan of Richards myself,
He has a howler in him every game. We need better than that imo.
5m???
you think? if thats a fact he is was well worth a punt for a cheeky 5
it probably says hughes is clueless
Cahill is a bit overrated. I wouldn’t want an English CB to be honest.
Cahill had quite a few shaky games this season.
I would rather Upson than Richards.
Pat It is also the fact that Fergie signs the most prolific players and the most nasty defenders…its the desire and ambition thats there
If Pele himself was available for 25m..Wenger would go on Arsenal.com and tell us that “Pele is too expensive for us”
Look at Andy Cole for example…Most prolific player in the League and SAF got him for 6m and a shyte Goalie…
Andy Cole, Terry Shitfuckingham, 3.5m, a 17 year old Soljear for a the price of a hand bag…
Even the heavy transfer of Ruud Van Shitroy for 19 mill was resold to Madrid for 22. While the fucker single handedly scored United to the tittle.
I think if we showed abit of ambition and took abit more risks..the rewards are worth it.
Ronaldo thing is only for the past couple years but in the 90′s SAF did a fair bit of good business.
not seen as much of cahill as last year.. but he is a very good no nonesense premiership clas defender.. but would be far too expensive.
Tevez hatrick
Thank God i have that bastard on my fantasy team.
David ur 21:52 is post of the day and ive dropped some classics. wow
Fucking Tevez again
Franchise, Hughes wasn’t clueless. Richards was awful. Citty started the season with 4 clean sheets in a row or something like that.
Mancini is lucky he has had a very easy run of games thus far.
Tevez is on fire. Hat trick
I wouldn’t want Cahill nor Upson.
Upson threw tantrums as a kid not playing regularly, no way he’d be happy to sit on the bench now, and he’s not good enough to ever play regularly for us imo.
Cahill is just the flavour of the month, not a bad player, but he’ll never be top top quality, which is what I want us to have to partner Vermy, who is top top quality.
yeah Pat hughes couldnt use tevez
Why did Andy Cole leave Arsenal again ?! Thought there was something dodgy going on there.
shitty just 4 behind us.
You’ve dropped something Franchise, doesn’t smell nice though.
Cheers Franchise,
I’ll take a bow…but recognize you’re the master.
Man Citys form doesnt bode well for coming seasons.
Throw enough shit and eventually it sticks.
one day david u will be like me
Anyway fuck Tevez
We have the prolific deadly potent clinical super nic Bendtner back in a couple of weeks,
Who needs ambition in the transfer market when Arsenal.com tells you that an injury is going to turn a kid into a WC goal machine.
Tevez….Rubbish.
i thought cahill was also just a paper name… but the fella can defend… he is still only 24.. and at 6ft 2 or 6ft 3.. has the height we need.. is right footed to play with vermy.. and proper no nonesense which i love in a defender.
no pissing around, get the man or get the ball… no 3rd choice.
u there?
keyser, GG had to chose between cole and kevin campbell.. and andy cole was a right fucking rebel back then… GG took no prisioners.
franchise…. he needs a season ticket at old trafford first
David, 6mil back then was considered a lot back then.
Never understood that, heard he nicked something or read it somewhere.
Andy Cole and Ian Wright together would’ve pretty awesome.
Cotto, lol!
A is the oracle.Arsene looks upto his opinions before recruiting someone.
Franchise, Tevez started scoring regularly once he score against us in the CC. Hughes was still there.
Yea Pat 6million was alot that was why it was a player + cash deal.
cotto im all ticks for a utd fan
glory hunter. check
lives hundreds of miles from manchester. check
Yeah Franch
I hear you’re tall. I wish i was a little bit taller..wish i was a baller..
That was by FAR the greatest thing i have ever read.
100% spot on. i love the sarcastic humor mixed in with the realistic arsenal approach….
we are shit, but hey, we could be great tomorrow.
fuck me… you trying to bang him?
Yeah Keyser Agreed
Cole and I.Wright wouldve been brilliant.
So would Anelka.
cotto ur time will come, get in the queue
lol
Yes it was David.
On 10 January 1995, Cole was suddenly sold in a shock deal to Manchester United for a deal worth £7 million – £6 million cash plus £1 million-rated Keith Gillespie going in the opposite direction, setting a new record for most expensive British transfer at the time. This record was broken five months later by Arsenal’s £7.5million acquisition of Dennis Bergkamp from Inter Milan.
mate, please.. leave it out.. are you on a wind up?
or are you a proper woofta?
Cotto
hahahaha…
Nothing excites you more than Internet gay porn…
Anelka and WWW were here at same time. Double not enough for you?
faggot
Why is tevez wearing tights!
There you go Pat it was at a time when the Clubs where in a financial position to break records left and right.
If 6m is todays 25million and Andy Cole would be available today and would be the highest scorer in the league…
Do you think Arsene would put cash plus Almunia in the deal to get him?
Ofcoarse not.
Cotto sorry to disappoint you im hetero :/
Funny thing about Cole was that he was very much like Bendtner with his finishing. When he got older, that improved tremendously.
Maybe Bendy will follow suit?
well done, franchise
that does not disappoint.
yeah Pat maybe when he is at chievo
£25 mil now wouldn’t be the same as £6 mil back then though, football has changed greatly, not because of inflation, but because of the rise of the prem, and billionaires treating football clubs as playthings.
You could spend £6mil then and still be well within your means.
1,300+ comments? Respect, Guys!
Andy Cole was deadly as a kid, but he stalled a little bit and never got that much of a chance with GG. That and his bad attitude and the fact KC would play wherever GG told him led to him going and Kev staying.
Hindsight says bad move, but at the time, before WWW wrecked KC, looked a decent shout!
Wenger would have never bought Bergy. Tight,stubborn clown.
lol the Hicks email controversy is hilarious
I will agree with that A,
But Wenger hasnt shown any desire to break any records…
Would it be fair to say we can spend 25million and still be well within our means?
MAciek but he bought Henry????
Still say that the end of season 92, from when Wrexham turfed us out the cup and GG went mental and was playing WWW, Campbell, Limpar, Merse, SMith and Rocky was one of the most exciting Arsenal teams ever. A few more games that year and we would have beaten Leeds to the title!
How do you work that out Maciek?! He bought Overmars just after for the same sort of money….
Rofl Maciek
I was just about to say that!
Wenger? Break the British Record to buy Bergy?
Was never going to happn.
Especially seeing as every player in the 25m bracket which is well within our means who might be potentially World Class and an Arsenal legend is too expensive for us.
But Im cheering myself up that a 20 year old fuck up is back in 2weeks.
i concur zorr0. that team was great
Devil’s advocate David. Say we paid 25m for Villa. What would his wages be on top of that. What would it also cost us in increasing other player’s wages for parity with Villa; Fab, RVP, AA, Silvestre(lol)?
How much would that 1 player cost over the 3 seasons of his contract?
David Bendtner is coming back
Was Wiltord a British transfer record?
David Bendtner?
Dont want to hear the player wages arguments Zorro
If Arsene can give 15 players new contracts this term alone he couldve certainly been able to afford 1 players wages over 3 seasons.
no chance… shearer was for 15m in 1996
wiltord was 13m
Franch, remember the sheff weds home game, I think we won 6-2 after going a goal down, something like that. GG must have been smoking some serious shit during that time!
Oh no of course not, Shearer, but other than Shearer the Wiltord deal would’ve been the British transfer record! At that time we’d spent more than Utd and Chelsea had….
I believe Wiltord was a Club Record not British Record.
David-
I don’t think it’s lack of ambition. We’re close to the top atm. What clod doesn’t want to be close to the top of the English fucking Premier League?
I think Wenger is being Wenger. See how we do through Jan with injuries. Granted, we’re all feeling a bit… shall we say… urgent, -because- we’re so close to the top. We all feel we need That One Signing, right now. We still have three weeks to sign someone though. If February comes and we’ve dropped a shitload of points this month and there’s no new face, by all means, let the Apocalypse begin. =)
We don’t need to buy a new keeper.
I think schensy is the best but the youngest keeper we’ve got.
It’s always difficult to find a good confident keeper.
I think schesny will the be our number one in less than one year.
Almunia is not the best for sure, but it’s not an easy task to drop your keeper. It’s like killing the guy.
Almunia scares me a lot, but I support him every time he plays for us because I always want to win, and you always win with the ressources you’ve got at your disponal.
Denilson’s not flashy but he doesn’t deserves the treamtment he’s getting from some younger or impatient fans.
Has anyone learnt something from the improvment of Van Persie, Ade, Song, Diaby ?
I won’t be unhappy with any new signing, but I believe :
1) This team can win the Premier league this year, and will win it, i’m sure about that.
2) No one can be sure that a new signing will add something to this team in a short time basis.
3) The new signing could end up in the treatment room as soon as he starts to scare the premiership hard boys. Our players don’t get enough protection from referees even on our own ground! The FA should really invest in formation of both players and referees in England.
There are always rooms for improvment in everything, but we shouldn’t be systematcally negative and abusive toward the team. Of course, every body is free to express his concers about the team, but we should try and be fair. Players need not only our support but our respect.
After all, it’s our team, and we all love it.
We’re all winner.
Let’s believe together and we will succeed together.
This year could be ours no matter what we or others teams do in the market.
The winner will, in any case, need luck and believe it or not, our support brings luck to the team.
man city creeping up on us,good win for them today,tevez is on fire at the mo
A
nowhere near.
Franchise and A. Good evening, gentlemen. Knowing his principles, he would say that Bergy comes from an Italian League and he has had a bad season and that 7.5 m pounds is a lot of money. A, Overmars was bough because Dennis recomended him. Theirry was a player when Wenger was at Monaco and Gerrard Houllier was youth team coach at Monaco. So, it was a no brainer( the whole Henry deal). Just my opinion.
gambon, only 2m out.
paul,paul did you not watch the game on saturday,that’s not a championship winning squad
Didnt Vaniseroy come in the same time we bought Wiltord?
Or was it Veron?
David, what do you think the figures are though. I am interested, not claiming that it is right or wrong in the context of the discussions.
Wiltord 13 mill! Hmm!
nowhere near gambon?! It was the second highest transfer fee in British history, and not that far away!
both came the following season David
wenger had something to prove trophy wise in his earlier years hence his proactiveness in the transfer market
now he has something else to prove.
this new project is like his master piece.
he wont budge
Zorr0 i cant exactly remember that game. it wasnt easy following the league from abroad back then for me
BBK, was manure at Brum then? Chavs at Villa?
Wrong Again A,
United Spent about 28 million on Dwight Yorke, Jaap Stam and Jesper Blomqvist…
They got Yorke for the same price we paid for Wiltord.
When I have seen 1,300 comment I started to think we have signed David Villa.LOL. Unfortunately this is ARSENE FC and it will never happen.
Paying 13mill out when you’ve received 23mill for a 19 year old… hardly a mind blowing fee! Especially with what was going on round Europe at the time!
how long ago was that zorro september time when cunts lost to villa
Z0rr0
In the context of discussion.
If we had a world class player for 25 it would prob cost another 10m to keep him for 3 season.
Something i think we can generate off of shirt sales alone.
I know id buy a David Villa shirt for sure.
united might drop as many points in the second half of the season but chelsea won’t them games we got coming up will fuck us completely
on that note how many senderos shirts do you think have been sold
how much did yorke cost utd?
I thought Yorke cost 12.8 mill… but it might have been 15ish?
Where i used to sit,near the red action lot there was one geezer with senderos on the back of his shirt i reckon he’s the only one with his name on the back ..
Really David?
Yorke was 12.6 mil
Stam £10.75 mil
Blomqvist £4.4 mil
http://transferleague.co.uk/
12.6 in 1998
yeah, lol
cant find it on google
but that same figure stick in my head 12.8 m
Wiltord was £13 mil, so at the time the second highest transfer fee paid in British history.
12.8 is approximately 13.
Who do you think got paid more in wages though?
true david, but technically we paid more.
200k is still 200k
Wiltord was a disappointing buy wasn’t he.
I was expecting Ian Wright Mk II
He did do that amazing bit of skill where he’d spin round in a circle with the ball… very clever.
I remember that about 7 seasons ago they bought Veron and Van Nisterloy for combined 50m pounds and then I startted to think they are unstoppable.And we have signed Sol and won the league.
Now they are 700m plus in debt and I have heard, Fergie must sell first to buy.How things can change.
Opposite to this our tight manager have money to spend but is to stubborn.
I absolutely hate the line of
You cant guarantee a new signing will bring anything to the team in the short term
Or
You dont know if that new signing would end up injured almost straight away.
What a load of old tosh, it is just another excuse for Wenger not doing his job.
Apart from that, very passionate post PaulPaul.
Maciek, we spent 35mill one summer I believe.
A Says:
January 11, 2010 at 22:30
Oh no of course not, Shearer, but other than Shearer the Wiltord deal would’ve been the British transfer record! At that time we’d spent more than Utd and Chelsea had…
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Yea A, Thats about 28 million isnt it?
Did we spend more than United when they spent about 28million at that time?
Pat, the worst type of action is inaction…
A, I don’t think you can put the Chav’s in there! They weren’t a force at the time!
Cotto
If you add Wages..Im sure United Paid more for Yorke than we paid for Wiltord.
they were spending hardings cash back then
ferking leaches.
On one player David, yes.
AND that transfer window we spent £35 mil in total, so more than their £28 mil as well.
A, thanks for that site!!
Franchise, go on the link A posted and click on Wankchester United. Like I said, CR sale makes the numbers look pretty.
Look at the net spend each year barring 08/09 ffs. Thats a lot of money, a lot.
BBK, we need everyone to have faith. let the shit talking come after that period. We were awful last year but had a good record against the top 4. Its possible. I hope Song will be back though!!
lol david, i’m sure you want to do all you can to beat A in this argument.. but transfer fee is nothing to do with wages.
we were 2nd in the OFFICIAL britsh transfer list at the time.. utd were 3rd.
Thanks Pedro, those were the words I was looking for.
It is that mentality that says what is the point of ever signing anyone.
of course we would could possibly win the league without signings but the odds that happening are very very slim.
Yeah Pedro, i was thinking that just after I wrote it, it was prior to their £150 mil plus year!
We were big spenders, then Utd went mad with Veron and RVN, then Chelsea took it to a whole new level.
B.B.K., I did watch the game.
We didn’t really perform as usual. I cannot draw any conclusion from this kind of game.I give a lot of credit to Everton as well. They had a point to prove.
I was not suprised to see them so fired up, after the humiliation we gave them earlier this year.
Denilson just came from injury. Ramsey was awful.
Nasri was doing every thing except a decent forward play.
Arshavin was losing his battles.
We defend badly.
The same team can do better.
We do have Teo, Cesc, Bendtner, clichy, Song (in 4 weeks) coming back.
We’ve got senderos. He’s a decent backup.
Coquelin and Eastmond can do a job when playing with strong and performing senior players.
Yes Pedro but we should spend again in January.
“Jimbo – “As for Ferguson, when he took over, Utd were practically in the relegation zone, and couldn’t finish top half.”
Honestly dude, it gets worse every time you say it, next it’ll be Fergie the parapalegic trying to run the marathon to raise money for the club he loved as a kid, and has fallen on ahrd times.
Whats the point in discussing anything if you’re not willing to be rational or reasonable.”
Well Keyser – you did bring up the comparison with Fergie, I’m just pointing out why it doesn’t work
Cotto
You cant ignore the facts that we pay wages to players otherwise people like Z0rr0 wouldnt be talking about the technical impossiblities of signing great players because their wages would cost too much for us (Allegedly) despite handing out so many new contracts to the players who have not proven themselves.
The fact is United wouldve paid more overall on Yorke than we’d have paid on Wiltord.
Thanks for that site A!
Still Wiltord wasnt the british Record
senderos and decent don’t go together paulpaul
I’m hitting the sack.
Have a delightful evening!
Anyway
How depressing is this window? Not even any fucking rumours!!!
PaulPaul are you Wenger in Disguise?
It was not just about coming back from injury,
For Denilson to be so outclassed and bossed in the midfield was beyond just a lack of sharpness and match fitness. It was a lack of ability and quality to play that position.
It comes back to round pegs square holes, it is poor management.
its more sickening that utd, chelski and liverpool and even moenybags city have spend SHITLOADS!!!
and we haven’t…boo hoo hoo
Wengers probably waiting for the a.c.o.n to finish and bring in another african
Ok BBK, so I will say chavs drawing at home to everton, obviously the kind of result that means you cannot win the league by your reckoning.
Franch, it was unbelieveable football after a few years of 1-0 to the Arsenal! Shame GG then decided to fuck it all up and turn us into a cup team; football was dire but I suppose we son some trophies, which is always nice, lol!
But we may profit from all this suffering once the Uefa rules go into effect!
ABOUT MUCHA, the Legia keeper we’ve been linked with. I was talking with my dad the other day and he watches Polish league whenever its on.
1. He was 2nd fiddle to Fabianski because Fabianski was in a rich period of form and Mucha was just bought as his replacement due to the impending move to Arsenal.
2. My dad never rated Fabianski. He had a good run of form, but still made rash decisions and still does.
3. As an Arsenal fan, my dad thinks 4 million would be a steal for Mucha. He really rates him.
4. My pops hates Almunia as much as we all do. He goes on rants during games about how shit he is. To the point where I have to tell him to shut up already!
I really hope he is being watched by Arsenal now.
Denilson – mercurial?
That’s a bit like saying : Almunia – Unbeatable.
pat gotta disagree, the whole team was pants on Saturday, Arshavin was no better than Denilson, who is absolutely fine in there at DM imo.
yeah bbk, because we’ve got so many africans at the moment?!
And apparently, Legia have offered to make Mucha the best paid player in the polish league.
Sounds like your dad makes alot of Sense Pat!
I never really rated Fabianski at all either!
zorro there still above us
A, yep the whole team were pants, but playing pants is one thing, you can sort of excuse a player having a match where nothing is coming off.
But to be so obviously brushed off possession with such ease is not just having a bad day at the office. He is not capable of playing that position, he lacks the physical strength to play there, it is not his fault, that is not his game.
bbk,
If Aw brought in Yaya Toure, an Ivorian and African would you take offense???
David, I asked a genuine question, I even said it wasn’t to prove me right and you wrong or vice versa, so why slag me off like that?
there’s probably not enough of them at the club since kolo and ade left a maybe wenger feels he needs a few more back at the club
Pat, that rumour was rubbished by this club last week.
Good to get some inside knowledge on him though as the You Tube Clip was pretty embarrasing, which is odd as they usually make every player look WC
It depends pat, he played there against Stoke and did very well.
He’s physically lacking, which means the team is a bit unbalanced when all the other players are weak, but in most situations he’s absolutely fine.
imo it wasn’t physically that he or we fell short though at the weekend, it was exactly the same as the first half at liverpool, they just pressed us with such ferocity that we couldn’t deal with it, it wasn’t down to a lack of strength, with denilson nor anyone else.
nope eagle i knew someone would get on there high horse about that comment,im not being racist just to clarify,for all the pc brigade out there
What do you have against African players BBK?
nothing a,but it is bollocks that they have to fuck off every 2 years that’s all
I must have missed something then A, as a lack of strength is exactly what I saw.
Agree that the addition of Cesc this weekend will cover up Denilson’s lack of talent. Although that is not how you put it
Pat. Best wishes to You and Your Dad,but….
I come from Poland. I watch our league and:
-our league is crap,
-Mucha is good but not good enough for us,
- he is better than the Clown but who isn’t?
- he isn’t better than Łukasz,
-we need a world class gk)Adler, Lloloris)
- Mucha isn’t good at coming to crosses.
Take care.
Zorr0
Apologies mate. It wasnt meant as a slag off.
I just heard too many people come up with that wage bill argument after the’ve run out of ideas of how we dont have any money to spend.
Blog hug?
BBK, but there season is over having drawn at home to Everton, surely?
ptg, you never know. Many rumors are rubbished only for the deal to go through. He’ll leave after the World Cup, thats for sure.
Chamakh and Mucha during the summer market? Damn it, we need them now!
I think it was that the rumour said he was coming to London for a trial Pat.
but zorro there still above us,they are 1st and we are 3rd get it now
all KATG David!
pat I’d say it was more that Denilson wasn’t sharp, and Ramsey’s awfulness made his job much much harder, though obviously Cesc will make it easier. The entire team struggled, Denilson didn’t struggle any more or less.
Denilson has a lack of athleticism, not talent
I think its unfair to moan about the russian.
Cesc was pants last season because he was feeling abit lonely with the likes of Song and Denilson both absolute shite playing next to him.
We all know that when Cesc has world class around him he plays better…same with Sheva…they work really good together its like theyve been playing for years.
Its like that World Class Analogy Pedro used.
If you were a World Class Chef flipping burgers at Mcdonalds would you be feeling giddy about coming to work?
Thats funny Maciek. I hear from many people that he and Sandomierski are the best keepers in the league.
Sandomierski is fucking brilliant and will fight for the future #1 jersey with Szczesny. If Mucha is on the same level, he can’t be shite, surely?
If we don;t buy a keeper, we should let Szczesny play. The German clubs let their young keepers play. CSKA Moscow let Akinfeev play when he was very young although I wouldn’t want him. Awful at crosses and cannot catch the ball.
So is our season over then or not?
David, Arsenal are better than McDonalds!!!! How dare you!!
we are fucked zorro
What Denilson does have to do this week though
Is Man Up. I really hope we are bullying the fuck out of him training cause both Bolton and Villa will be targetting him as the weak link. He needs to put in a few niggling tackles and let the cunts know that they can’t take the piss out of him.
Personally I would rather us return to 4-4-2 whilst Song is away
Preferably I would like to see us buy a DM, but there is more chance of the Spuds signing Messi.
Jimbo – Of course it doesn’t work, it’s not supposed to, it’s easy saying he’s had more time than any other manager, when no other manager has faced the same sort of problems.
Fergie had 5 years to build a club to his standards, not any club but probably one of the two biggest in the country ? United were’nt Aberdeen or St Mirren, they weren’t a club that should be threatened by relegation in the first place.
What Fergie had to deal with is nothing like what the Premiership is today, he basically had 5 years without any pressure whatsoever and still nearly cocked it up.
i just hope we are in the CL next season.. and can put in a title challenge.
we got fuck all to look forward to this season.
When Clichy’s back, I would try Armand Traoré in DM.
Wenger did it with Petit. And Armand could be a good DM.
Wether it’s for a keeper, a DM, a striker, or a CB, we’ve could do something, bu I won’t buy a player if he’s not world class.
A wolrd class player is not always available a any time.
Pedro, Arsene is never inactive on and off the pitch. I am sure if he really find a player he likes, he will buy him. Sometimes he surprises people.
We can still win without any new signing. I suspect some fans, to enjoy signings of player, the same way the love to watch or support a team.
That’s our world today. It’s a daddy suggar world. I don’t like it in the game. Money’s not god, and siging for the sake of signing or being active, is just a stupid spuds way to do things.
if we finish 3rd it will be an almighty achievement..
Again there A, I disagree, Ramsey was the man in form and the one who deserved and earnt his place. Who is to say that it was not Denilson’s shitness that caused Ramsey to have a poor game?
Pat, I would not want to have Igor either. But Lloris, Neuer and Aldler could do the job. Mucha is good, but not as good.Just my opinion. Sandomierski is also good. We do have many quality keepers, shame we do have crap up field players.
Well Keyser, you were the one who brought up the comparison, not me.
Either way, 5 years without improvement will be too much from Wenger, as it would be from any manager, in any sort of ‘problem’.
Wenger is Arsenal’s biggest problem. Get rid of the cancer, and we can maybe start to hope again.
our season is over there is not
pat currently there’s more cover there! I’d be much more worried about being bullied in 4-4-2, one of the reasons for the current system is that there are three central midfielders and the extra body makes a difference! 4-4-2 we’d be much weaker imo.
Bolton should be fine, though Villa will be a worry, he isn’t the weak link though, and wasn’t against Everton, the whole team wasn’t clicking and passing the ball crisply, which is what will fuck us up if we don’t click in the next two games. If denilson isn’t fit for bolton i’m very very worried though, because we have literally noone else who could play that role.
how i wish we could still be in with a shout of the title.. its fucked being 3 fucking whole points behind a rampant chelski with only 18 games left.
fucked.
Nonesense Pat!
McDonalds have financial stability! I bet you like us they celebrate their…Money in the bank!
Cotto, you would think so wouldn’t you!
Yeah Cotto
3 points behind is 3 points behind…18 games left or 1 game left.
3rd in the league is 3rd in the league.
Personally i think we’d rather be first. But i dont know you seem perfectly fine with 3rd.
Fucking amazing. Sitting 3rd, managing a injury list the length of John Holmes dick, in the next round of the CL (playing fucking CL solidly for 10 yrs +). Grooming exiting young players into a squad, managing the club in dire finacial times………..all u mutherfuckers can fuck right off. U hurry come ups….we wouldn’t even be in a fucking poistion where we expect fantastic football and challenge for honors consistently if it weren’t for the foresight of one AW.
we drew a game against a combative , good Everton team in the dying fuckin seconds! He manages, we support…….fuckwits the lot of u! What do u want- to walk the league every season. FFS, we are in the business end now and are in with a BIG shout.
Appreciate what you have and maybe you will enjoy the ride!
look here you loonies.. i am fucking realist
no fucking team in history has made up 3 points on the leaders with only 18 games left
you fucking left wing, communist fuck AKBs
How hard is stoke to get to? From London. Anyone going?
A
You dont think Muamba and Taylor would have watched the tape and thought right lets do a Fellani on Denilson???
I guess we will never agree on this one (As ever)
Catch you tomorrow guys, nice blogging with you.
pat ramsey not being capable of controlling or passing the ball had nothing to do with denilson who was behind him. Ramsey just totally failed to cope with the pressuring from everton, which is excusable for someone his age, but imo he was the worst player on the pitch, and totally off his game
We’re linked with Saha again. He wants 60k a week apparently and his contract is up in the summer. Everton can’t afford that so they will surely want to sell, no?
This is an interesting one as I watched this game this weekend.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1242465/Chelsea-lead-Arsenal-Manchester-City-chase-Racing-Santanders-Spanish-starlet-Sergio-Canales.html?ITO=1490
The lad scored 2 goals and they were both quality goals and I asked myself who the fuck is this lad? Now we’re linked with him.
i’d take saha for sure.
he can do a job for us
pat they could’ve watched it all they want, just as they could’ve watched messi’s third goal and thought that’s what we’ll do, it doesn’t mean they have anything like the ability to do that!!
we’ll see at the weekend though
if you don’t like it here fuck off
Denilson against Felleni = Fail.
Denilson against Muamba…what the fuck do we expect.
Hmmm.
take care pat
lets have a burn AKBs at the stake day lads
David – Fellaini is good, Muamba is shite
fellani was made to look very good.
Here are his 2 goals against Sevilla. He as 4 in 2 or 3 games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjN7JcX712E
Red and dread; John Holmes dick, lol!.
No David, if we were 3 points behind with 1 game left I might give up. 18 to go I think I’ll buckle up a while longer!
I was the only 1 of a group of us who went to Anfield in 89. Something to do with having faith I guess!
fellaini was “made to look” very good against chelsea too
Muamba is certainly not shite A,
Felleni isnt even a defensive player…he’s an attacking midfielder ffs…look at what he did to denilson/ramsey….lol.
Oh one more thing-I swear some u you toads must be just out of kindergarten based on the inane comments you make. It’s suppossedly a free world and people can say what u wish but geezus some of you have stones for brains.
Jimbo – I brought it up because you randomly pop up with silly little statements over the course of a season, Wenger’s your problem not Arsenal’s, you like several others have an irrational hatred of the man and just like to vent from time to time, I can udnerstand that.
Doesn’t give what you say any more credence, just makes you seem bitter.
redanddread – just string the loons along pal… its more fun that way
Wasn’t Denilson up against Feillani at the start of the season, or did Feillani miss that one ?!
Zorro
I think what we’re saying is that we’d rather be 1st than 3rd. I mean its not like it was impossible if we didnt slip up with Burnley and Everton…
So we are celebrating being 3rd doesnt really make sense especially given the run of games we have the next couple months
Who you talking to BBK, or was it a general plea to us ‘AKB’s'?
burn burn burn in hell
We shouldn’t be talking about Denilson vs. Muamba.
The talentless hack, Muamba, will be marking Cesc. Probably.
Was it Denilson up against Feillani? Or was it Song? In the start of the season. I dont know very hard to tell.
it depends who he’s playing with david, he’s like fletcher, can act as the more defensive or offensive player. He made lampard, ballack, and mikel look pretty pants too.
muamba is definitely shite imo! terrible footballer, and doesn’t have anything like the intelligence to do to us what fellaini or mascherano did to us.
Lol Keyser – so the non-sequiturs, straw-men, white-elephants and lord knows what else keep on coming from your direction then
.
Arsenal used to be a team capable of winning trophies. Christ, Wenger used to be a manager capable of winning trophies. Oh, how the mighty have fallen!
It was Wenger’s decision to destroy our midfield, not mine. The Gallic egotist has become the biggest problem this club has had in a decade, and we have no hope of actually winning anything until he’s gone.
Oh thats right…
We dont have Song playing.
How could i forget.
Gutted Denilson’s injury’s not keeping him out for longer really.
We’d be better off with 10 men.
Jimbo – “and we have no hope of actually winning anything until he’s gone.”
Don’t hate on me now, call it what you like, you have an irrational hatred of the man and it makes you sound very very bitter.
Well A,
There’s no arguments from me…we should beat Bolton comfortably. The fact that we dont have a target man is disrupting our offensive game…
Denilson or no Denilson…if we have clichy back its a good sign with his pace and experience.
As far as Muamba goes…i dont think he’s shite but even the shite players somehow when it comes to Arsenal decide to have the game of their lives…hope not tho.
“Was it Denilson up against Feillani? Or was it Song? In the start of the season. I dont know very hard to tell.”
Because they’re independant of each other ?!
We also had Van Persie and Fabregas in the team.
Heh, wait a min, Bendtner was also playing.
Seriously though did Feillani play that game ? I can’t remember.
wenger would never of bought any of the famous back 5
they were way too big
David, thing is, I don’s see many Gooners celebrating being 3rd , but I do see them judging that we are in a good spot for the run in, especially with 1 or 2 new players and some back from Colin Lewin’s office!
It just seems to me that those of us who feel like that get slagged off and called AKB’s because we don’t join in with the doom and gloom or AW slagging!
I’d say the fact that we don’t have a forward is disrupting us overall, though we’re still scoring alot of goals. It’s a link up forward we’re missing though imo, not a target man.
Bolton SHOULD be ok though, it just depends on the new manager honeymoon period, that’s my only worry, but so far this season we’ve not been troubled by teams who just try hard, it’s only been teams who are actually genuinly very well organised, and troubling all the top teams.
Without Denilson I’ve got no idea what’ll happen, Eastmond perhaps, or more likely Ramsey put in there, which could be a disaster
Keyser Says:
January 11, 2010 at 23:35
“Was it Denilson up against Feillani? Or was it Song? In the start of the season. I dont know very hard to tell.”
Because they’re independant of each other ?!
We also had Van Persie and Fabregas in the team.
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Thats fucking funny. I didnt know Van Persie and Fabregas play in the same position. Are they both DM’s?
“Thats fucking funny. I didnt know Van Persie and Fabregas play in the same position. Are they both DM’s?”
It would be to you, do you actually realise that football is a team game, or do you think Feillani and Denilson went off together for a bout of greco-roman wrestling.
Did Feillani play in that game or not ?!
Hahaha Keyser
Priceless…”Do i Realize footabll is a team game”
And in a team do you realize that different players have different positions?
Or it doesnt matter you can play VanP and Fabregas interchangeably in the same position…I dont know Keyser are they Independent of each other?>
Felleni played the full 90 minutes for both games.
Denilson played in both games.
Song didnt.
Football is a team sport? Really?
Really hilarious how you only make sense to yourself.
Is it really ? Do you sit there laughing uncontrollably when you read it ?!
What was the score again ?!
lol, while David & Keyser do their usual (Wish they would just get a room) I am off.
Been a pleasure lads. Tomorrow for round 1275?
diaby was classified as shite not long ago around here. song was awefull last year.
denilson may get the praise in the near future.
the only player i can’t support at arsenal is silvestre, i really can’t stand him.
Yeah Keyser
More importantly what was the score when Song wasnt in the team?
Nite Z0rr0,
Gooby, Almunia is worse!
pat, oh i forgot the clown, sry mate. anyway i thnik AW might use diaby in the hole, could be a good cover imo if he manages to stay back.
denilson isn’t hopeless like some are saying.
btw is the blogger “denilson” acctually the real one or is this a stupid question :p
THink we have to sign a Defensive midfielder and ditch Merida. Arsenal wouldnt run a story like “no progress on meridas contract” if something wasnt up. He obviously isnt committed enough. I dont understand why we dont approach players like Toulalan, De Rossi, Mascherano (he would be good next to song). Even if we signed one of them on loan to get through ACN and add some depth this year until Denilson and Ramsey develop some more.
Out-Merida
In-DM, striker.
RedandDread,
I will give it to you as politely as I possibly can: go fuck yourself…
*yellow cards himself*
luke,
A. because we don’t think they are available
B. beacuse they are not better than what we already have
C. beacuse they would ‘kill’ Denilson
D. all of the above
luke it’s Arsenal.com running the story, and the people who choose what to run are no different from bloggers, they aren’t told what to run and what not to run. They just listen to Wenger’s press conferences, or interviews, and the choose quotes to publish and make articles from.
The Merida quotes are because they press asked Wenger about Merida, I wouldn’t say he’s absolutely gone. I wouldn’t want him to go either.
How on earth would any of those DMs be allowed to go on loan?! Not a chance of any club letting a good player go on loan…. I agree that we should sign a DM though to provide extra cover, someone like Matuidi would go down a treat
*because
and a CB…
and a striker….
Centre back if Sendy is off/injured/out of favour. imo other two more important, but yeah centre back too
A,
and some proper fucking monsters at that…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A61731001
disagree there suga! don’t care about that at all, imo defensively speed is more important than size, and technical ability/intelligence more important than size in attack. DM yeah some physicality, don’t care about height, but someone stocky and powerful
yes, that’s what I’m talking about – they don’t necessarily have to be ‘Texas size’, but with a mean streak and a fire breathing if-you-kick-me-or-my-mate-I-will-rip-your-fucking-head-clean-off attitude
Paddy had quite a disciplinary record to his name, but it was effective as fuck…
i think you 2 are close ..
i think we need a good mix of ball skill and height . but ive rarely seen a class striker well over 6 foot tall .. or that many defenders either like that .
in fact being over 6′ 4” makes any human look ogre’ish and impedes movement .
the key issue here is we play wenger ball !
(quick passes – intelligence – fluid movement)
we MUST have team players who fit in 1st and foremost , im sure this hampers wengers choices even more so …
and finding quality this transfer window seems tough .. no one will let go of there players cheaply ..
wengers only option is again to target players who are on a free shortly or who wont sign new contracts ..
or take the punt on youths ..
ethan,
this Traore fella is agile as fuck for someone 6’8″ – all I saw were these videos on YT, but he doesn’t have this lanky clumsiness about him that Crouch has…
he’s pretty young thou suga .. 19 ?
you were just stating you’ve had enough of these youths ..
i have too dont get me wrong ..
but i think half the teams in the EPL wont part with there players in jan . and the other half of the teams aren’t worthy to get players from .. so wenger is screwed either way .
if wenger pulls 1 signing out the bag that makes a difference in this climate ill be surprised .
i think it needs too be done , but what wenger does is another kettle of fish .
fair enough…
I would perhaps try and nick a player from the Russian league – they have a season break (I think) and did not qualify for WC either…
i would in true football manager style go thru the french national team U21′s U22′s who ever, and buy 3 or 4 ..
if your going to get youth players at all !
wenger takes a punt too early on these youths .
and he only seems to buy french players , and they are the only ones who seem to be 1/2 descent
id take hazzard – kompany – van den borre
and a class keeper and striker .
all belgum !
like TV ..
some good players coming out of there recently .
like kompany (who would make a good CDM)
TV05 could do it too , hes got a good shot on him , can track back ultra fast .i think he could easily be a far better DM than song ..
but then you need more CD’s !
still screwed
http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26691,16429_5841716,00.html
tag,
yeah, I saw that – in a few words: Arsene wearing a latex mask of Uncle Festa
ethan,
CB:Cetin(28, good stopgap, Turks did not qualify for WC)
DM:Matuidi (not the biggest but quite tenacious)
CF:Adriano (loan)
and that’s curtains for me
nite all!
and oh, Sakho in the summer…
sell Sendy & JD…
Was just doing an experiment on this site, might as well give you some numbers:
Most prolific commenters today (after 1519 comments from 118 different commenters)
Cotto 156
Pedro 126
SUGA3 94
Keyser 89
A 88
Franchise 85
David 57
Geoff 50
gambon 46
tonyadamsisgod 44
choy 43
Pat 41
Zorr0 35
bnsb 35
B.B.K. 30
Samir 23
CHIPPY 22
Tom 20
Gunners The Stunners 20
Kushagra India 18
dennisdamenace 18
patthegooner 16
SongtheGreat 16
SharkeySure 15
leon 15
Jimbo 13
Ray in SF 11
Galviniho 11
ArseNose 11
CESCS_MyBoy 11
Denilson 10
Francis Jeffers 10
Arsenal Tom 10
Mr B 10
The first 8 commenters account for 49% of all comments today.
The first 26 commenters account for 80% of all comments today
Man city won tonight which makes them the best team in history.
we should buy mica richards who is no longer shit because he scored.
we should buy Pienaar because he scored, we should buy Fellaini because he was good in saved by the bell.
we should kill Wenger because he’s a cunt.
Ferguson is the greatest human ever.
no team has ever made up 3 points in 17 games.
the highest scorers never win the league
the team that lets in the most goals always loses the league.
Almunia needs more games
Arshavin is a passenger
I hope Denlison gets injured more
Cesc will go to AC interbarrealona
Chelsea wont lose another game in history and “there above us arnt they”
We wont beat Bolton because Coyle has tirned them into the best team in human memory.
Vieras legs are better than ever.
etc
Half the comments today came from 8 people?
AA23, haha.
I better be 3rd now and 1st at the end than be 1st now and 3rd at the end, as was the case in 2008.
Arshavin saying we need a miracle to win the premier league or CL is rather annoying.
The lads getting on my nerves. He’s not performing that well and he talks too much.
Fuck. Had a look on the table and anything can happen this season and a LOT depends on form.
We can win the title, yet we can even drop down to 5th or 6th. City look impressive atm.
Pat
Arshavin said we’d need a miracle… to be able to put out our actual first choice eleven…
He says we havent had a chance to do that all season.
He’s implying that if we did we’d shit all over the league.
He’s right too.
the actual quote behind the very misleading headline is…
“My greatest dream is to win a title with my club. Naturally, it would be better if we won the Premier League or the Champions League.
“But to do this we need a miracle – which is to start playing finally with our best line-up! I do not think we have had it once so far this season.”
- the real AA23
Excellent summary AA23!
Yup. It’s the same on many active boards, a handul of people account for a big chunk of the activity. In addition I’ve found that on soccer boards, negative commenters are the most prolific ones in general but I don’t have numbers yet to back up my claim.
Pat
Arshavin also has a foot injury.
Still plays though, might be the reason he’s been a bit off lately.
http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/2010/01/liverpool-and-man-u-approach-meltdown/
AA23
ha ha ha ha
interbarrealona!!
classic
And he is playing out of position for the sake of his team, and almunia hoofs the ball as if he is a 6 ft CF.
We are wasting Arshavin’s best attributes playing him at CF.
matt your a fucking idiot !
i know your from ACLF so fuck off back there
dirt boy !
i know what your trying to do and there’s no way you can even draw a comparison !
take your average over the past 2 years and you’ll see 1000′s of bloggers on le grove .
looking at that list you haven’t even got a fraction of the regulars !
in fact that’s all WHO that comment on yogi’s site ! regulars (talk about stacking the experiment to suit your fucking self)
because all else are ran off the site because you cannot confront the author ! and the ACLF tribe although i never read it anymore, is full of whacked out delusional dribblers ..
in there minds we have the best players on earth yet are just unlucky with injuries
fucking comical ..
just getting the night average up
(i wasnt on the list
)
i love sabotaging statistical figures ..
anyone who thinks im not an architect should speak now
preferably not those on the list
wow cotto is a bandwidth hog !
and at 126 pedro is living proof he doesnt have a female companion .
you should of came to thailand
!!!
dont think i have forgotten !
heres a stat for you ..
123 comments Vs OVER 1500!
IN 1 DAY !
Good Morning ethan, how hangs it fella?
GOOD MORNING GROOVERS! HOW ARE YOU?
DDM
welcome comrade …
fighting the AKB’s back with a cane stick DDM !
I prefer an electronic cattleprod fella!
i think the AKB will pat themselves on the back this season .REGARDLESS !. in the slow snails march to victory they have got over another garden nozzle of life and are 1 step closer to the 1000 steps needed to achieve world domination whilst adhering to the scrooges hand book !
Hallelujah, Halleluyah
DDM
cane stick is the best i can do ..
im in thailand
cost me 40 b
at a art supply shop … hmmmmm
work that out
oh i got it , it was a head masters cane !
wow you have to admire the education system here
Those mugs would say ‘well done’ to AW if he took us down!! Probably stating how wise it is of the great man to build for the future in a lower division!!
These fools only have blind loyalty to the man not the club, what happens when he steps down or moves on? For me I’d like to see him move on if only to take these sycophants with him…..
Ohh no, a short sharp electric shock to the testicles, which will have the added benefit of sterilisation, those inbred fuckwits shouldn’t be allowed to breed….
id like to see him move on because at his age and with his money we have been lining his pockets with throughout his experiment will make him rich enough to move on sooner than later ..
and i feel likewise – most will go cesc RVP …. basically all the french players to keep explanations short .
i would also expect the board to bail prior to wenger leaving also..
which may add up to why stans got all but the last 0.000022 % of shares ….
maybe it wont be an exodus . but it will surely expose half of our players if another manager doesnt want to play wenger ball any longer .
Ohh no, a short sharp electric shock to the testicles, which will have the added benefit of sterilisation, those inbred fuckwits shouldn’t be allowed to breed….
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yes i can imagine the genetic code warping to a level were you would breed an
‘A’ type fan .. ON STEROIDS
just imagine !
Morning all! I have just finished todays post and I have some suggestions for success, none as radical as Ethan’s and Dennis’s but solutions all the same.
Sabeel, you’re posting on the wrong post!
Ok I will post bang on 9am!
why not buying more players? since we are very hungry of an award. to me, iwud prefer we take atleast 2 trophies champs $ EPL. PLZ “WENGER” DON’T BE MORE SUPER GREW BUY TWO PLAYERS: STRIKER with heading skills $ he should’nt be left leged THIS TIME , deffender(strong $ highted TO PLY OUT DROGBA)
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Are you having a laugh?!!!! You hope almunia gets a new contract like denilson. These two idiots are destroying our season and you come up with rubbish like that! Surely you must be joking!