Angry? No, just disappointed. Ratings and Review

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I normally write the match review directly after the game, but tonight I thought I’d give it a couple of hours. I thought maybe I’d feel a bit more passionately about the loss. Well, it didn’t happen… I just feel deflated.

How can I get angry?

If the dog keeps shagging the cushion, you can only berate it so many times before you have to accept the fact that the dog is always going to shag that cushion.

I wouldn't rest your hand on that...

It’s the same with this current team. There will be moments when you think they’ve finally got it sussed, then bang, out of the blue… we’re metaphorically shagging that bastard cushion again.

‘Beating the Scousers was fantastic but we must not get too ahead of ourselves… premature gloatation is a dangerous thing. I must say I am more worried about the impending games against Hull and Burnley. If Arsenal couldn’t motivate themselves for the first half at Anfield, how are they going to feel about playing away at Burnley or Hull?’

I felt bad writing that, even worse requoting myself like some sort of prophetic wizard but I had to put it down because it happens so often. All of the ridiculous gloating that comes the way of Le Grove after a solitary win annoys me, not because these people are retarded enough to think winning upsets us, but because at the back of my mind, I know it’s going to come back and bite them in the arse sooner rather than later.

Burnley deserve all the praise in the world for how they performed tonight. Mick McCarthy should look at what they did and feel ashamed of the team he put out against United. They caused us plenty of issues without the use of bully boy tactics. They hit the wings, they walked through the middle of us, they took pot shots and they fully deserved their point.

Arsenal need a team of fighters, not a select few players who want to turn up in the glamour games in the safety of the Grove. It’s debatable who those fighters are, but I’ve got a list in my mind who I’d want on my side when the chips are down… Song, Vermaelen, Gallas, Cesc and Arshavin are probably the only players who’d make it onto the list from last night. I know Arshavin might be a contreversial choice, but he’s a hard worker and I think one of the reasons he looks as if he goes missing is because he returns very deep to get the ball when things aren’t looking good.

We started off quite brightly, creating some fine chances, most of which came through the good work of Cesc Fabregas and Andrey Arshavin. We got our reward when Cesc lost the ball on the edge of the box, fought back to win it with Diaby, jumped on the loose ball, bundled into the box and slid it home.

Almunia pulled off a couple of crucial saves and commanded his box uncharacteristically well.

Burnley were are threat though and weren’t going to go down without a fight. Arshavin hit the post after some superb interplay with Cesc.

Not long after Vermaelen allowed them an opportunity to equalise when he rashly challenged in the box, the ref pointed to the spot, Alexander smashed home emphatically.

Arsenal came out for the second half like they’d been asked to repeat the first half against Liverpool. Cesc went off with a thigh injury and Rambo struggled to replicate the creativity of the Spaniard. Arsenal were a team bereft of ideas. The team had 50% fight in them. Gallas was bombing forward, Vermaelen too, Song was trying his hardest to force an opening but outside those boys, not much else was happening. Too many players are clueless. None of them have a plan b when threading the ball through the eye of a needle proves ineffective. Is it possible that the most intricate football in the Premiership has become predictable… one dimensional if you will?

Burnley were doing there best down the other end, striking the post and creating other chances. The most worrying moment of the second half was a cross that looked bread and butter for Almunia, he mistimed it and let it slip under him… Burnley put the ball in the net, luckily the lino flagged dubiously for offside.

Shocking, shocking goalkeeping. No excuses. That was one of the worst goalkeeping errors I’ve seen an Arsenal keeper make. If he isn’t dropped for the Hull game, consider him undroppable.

The game whimpered out. Arsenal had undone all the good from the Liverpool game. We slipped back in the title race once again.

So how do I conclude this?

Well, I think it’s safe to say we’re not out of the title race mathematically. We’re firmly in it. However, for me, tonight was a demonstration as to why I doubt we’ll win the league. In your heart of hearts, after watching that performance and numerous others this season, can you honestly see us challenging in May? Our problem is we lack fight. It’s the same old same old. If you don’t buy players with that hunger needed to win Championships, you’ll never win Championships.

Listening to the coach talk about the team being jaded made me laugh. We’ve got the youngest team in the universe, yet they can’t muster the stamina to beat Burnley.

So what is it? Is it the youth policy? When you pay kids huge sums at a young age, is it all a little too easy? Is it Arsene overlooking personality type when scouting players these days? Or is it just the wrong mix of players?

That’s not for me to decide. However, I’d say if we want to kick on we’re going to need to do something about the culture of this team because it certainly doesn’t smell like a winning recipe.

Ratings:

Almunia: Started brightly, then faded horribly. Letting the ball slip under you so easily is appalling. How can a professional keeper sleep at night after displaying such a lack of concentration. He must be dropped, time is up, he has to be replaced by Fabianski. 4

Silvestre: I thought he had a nightmare. I’d be pretty miffed as a Burnley fan that the ref didn’t give a penalty for his blatant handball in the box. Still, when every left back in the club has been cursed, your selection is forced. 5

Vermaelen: Clumsy challenge to concede the penalty, but overall, a great performance from a player who looks like he has a deep love for the club already. Give me 11 Verminators and I’ll be a happy man. 8

Gallas: A battling performance from a player who seems to feed off the passion his centre back partner shows. Again, for all his faults, he genuinely cares about winning. 7

Sagna: Unconvincing for me. He’s been very inconsistent this season, especially going forward. Not a great night for the Frenchman. 6

Fabregas: An inspired start to the game considering he went into the game with an injury complaint. He limped off early in the second half and apparently it’s serious. A very big worry for us. Wenger’s master plan is without direction if the Spaniard isn’t there. 7

Song: I thought he has a good game. He’s never going to tear open a defence, but at least he wears his heart on his sleeve and is prepared to fight it out. 6.5

Diaby: I thought he did ok for the first 40 minutes. The rest of the match was classic Diaby. No real direction, no real threat and very limited impact. He just doesn’t cut it at the moment. 5

Nasri: A player we all expected big things from, but so far, he’s in the same boat as Theo. He’s just not doing it for me. Although he has far more natural ability than the Englishman, he doesn’t seem to have much grit about him. He drifts in and out of game which is a waste, because skill like that should be forced on these types of situation. 6

Walcott: Did anyone see a short stocky player who looks a bit like Lewis Hamilton on the pitch tonight? I know I didn’t. Virtually zero input bar that look of shock on his face everytime he fired a shot 40 yards over the bar, or he misplaced a pass. A Very poor return from a player we were hoping was going to light up next years World Cup. 5

Arshavin: Had a very promising first half, but struggled to come to terms with the second half. There was no creativity from anyone else and he looked a little lost if I’m honest. 6.5

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  1. SUGA3

    the only thing Szczesny needs to do is to bulk up, as he is lacking a bit of upper body strength to cope with the likes of Drogba et al…

    add that to the mix and he will be a fucking monster…

    YOU. SHALL. NOT. PASS.

  2. Baafuor

    You are such a genius. Wenger is really sick with that excuse about the games we are playing.Every other team also plays the same number of matches.He should look at his team andbuy REAL CHAMPIONSHIP winning players.And as for Almunia only God knows what he has done to Weng!er

  3. Duke

    Suga, I see you like the kid, but what do you base that information on?
    Sorry to ask and question and leave, but have to go now.

    Take care all.

  4. MoW

    it seems to be one of the biggest enigma’s in the modern world why wenger doesn’t get “it” – i.e. that a)this team doesn’t have the qualities, mentally especially, to win the league and b) you could significantly address the issue by spending some of our mountain of cash and c) not doing so is negligent

    i really can’t work it out. he is a highly intelligent and driven man. but then it is an enigma.

    anyone got any sensible anwsers?

  5. Ayoola

    Its such a shame that we have to go through this again and again.what a post by Pedro!!!!!!!!!!1 nailed right there on the head. lets tackle this issue piecemeal.
    1. we lost because we could not match the physical nature of an opponent that lacks skill and any aestethic.
    2. we will continue to lose games like this and we cannot not do anything about it.
    3. we won in Liverpool, not because of the teams play but because liverpools’ level in the game dropped.
    4. Arsenal will not win the league and we all know it.
    5. arsenal players are good but only in a mid table team. honetsly how many of our pplayers are going to be in Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool, Barca, Real Madrid, team.
    6. whether we like it or not, we will struggle in the champions league against any team we get but a few unknowns.
    7. as for the FA cup, we have too much crocked players to achieve anything meaningful.
    8. nothing wrong with the medical team from my perspective. something is wrong with the arsenal players players demselves. same medical set up in days of vieira and henry. and we never had it like this.
    9. arsene should be in an advisory role now. he cannot manage a winning team or is afraid to do so. no wonder he does not want to go to madrid.
    10. i love this club, being supporting the team for the past 16 years and i will do so for a much longer time. i just wanna compete.

  6. SV

    Fixture congestion? Don’t make me laugh. Aston Villa play ManU and Sunderland away within 3 days (we lost both fixtures) and go away with 6 points. That’s what I call desire and profesionalism.

  7. Mayank

    Not defending the teams performance yesterday, but even the invincibles drew against Fulham at home in nov and Liecester and Bolton away in Dec.
    It’s always been a weakness imo, not like that’s an excuse but just to add some context to the whole situation.

  8. AU

    i think wenger should just let our players be more creative…let them express themselves….nasri was doing all kind of trick at OM…since coming to arsenal…he has been very quiet…

  9. Arsenal Tom

    szczesny cracks me up… he broke both arms trying to lift the same weights as mannone!!

    that and calling the bloke who missed a pen against him after trying to stop his run in pre-season makes him a legend already!

  10. Mayank

    I’ve read a lot of good things about Szczesny, he’s a nutter I’d love to have b/w the sticks. It’s been a while since we had one of those anywhere on the pitch.

  11. zeus

    @ MOW

    After reading your question the Arseblog Arsecast bit went of in my head. The one when he calls in the doctor and he uses endless medical jargons to explain his hypothesis but in the end in lay man’s terms the answer is simple, SOMEONE IS A CUNT.

    Not willing to call our greatest ever manager a cunt though.

  12. David

    I think Wenger wants to keep the tittle race close and refuse to buy the players we need so that when we end up with no Silverware once again he can point to the fact that we were close as he did in 07/08.

    I for one dont want it to be close. I want us to win it by 10 points or more.

  13. B.B.K.

    David Says:
    December 17, 2009 at 16:41
    If your not willing Zeus then I am.

    Because if you dont see that he’s ruining our club then hes a cunt.Spot on david,all his good work has been undone,we are just another team now

  14. maurya

    It ridiculous to blame fixture congestion. We are not Wolves. We are arasenal. We need to have players to play 2 games per week.

  15. choy

    Its ridiculous, wenger says the strangest things when we lose.

    As someone pointed out earlier, Villa have played Sunderland and Mancs away and have got 4 points.

    We played Pool and Burnley.. boo hoo

  16. choy

    Its ridiculous, wenger says the strangest things when we lose.

    As someone pointed out earlier, Villa have played Sunderland and Mancs away and have got 6 points.

    We played Pool and Burnley.. boo hoo

  17. goonermichael

    I wonder if any Forest fans call Brian Clough a cunt. I think it’s probably the end of Wenger time but I don’t think he’s a cunt. I thinks walcott and almunia are useless but I don’t think they are cunts.

  18. Ooby

    anyone who continually ruins my enjoyment of watching AFC and gets paid around €60k a week for doing so is a cunt in my opinion…

  19. Ooby

    When my wife walks across and stops in front of the TV when we’re playing, something all women are gifted at doing, she is also a cunt. Albeit without being paid a fortune to do so. However I forgive her as I am scared of her so that’s that…. the cunt!

  20. gunnergetyou

    nice to see phill brown has’nt passed up the opportunity to have a dig at wenger in regards to the so called fixture pile up.

    Well done wenger, lets put pressure on ourselves and motivate the opposition, by whinging after a bad result.

  21. Ooby

    I have nothing left in my locker for our team and our manager. Nothing. I said it last night. I don’t know my team anymore. I have no feelings for most of them bar one or two. And they are the one or two that I would forgive for fucking off to win something before they lose their chance. I wouldn’t blame them because this arse of a manager has lost his sanity at our cost. The only thing I can say in the players defence is its not their fault. They’re only playing to the best of their (in)ability and the manager is the one who picks them. Goodnight all and Good Luck to Ye.

  22. MoW

    anyway, cunt or no cunt the Arsene Enigma exists. if our most rational way to explain it is “he’s a cunt” then i think it proves the point.

    more interesting is whether it will end, i.e. will wenger change his whole mysterious philosophy.

    surely the only hope we have is that wenger changes, or is replaced. i’m sure most gooners would prefer he changed.

    we’ll find out in january if he has.

  23. simon mcmahon

    look last night in the heat of the moment people make angry comments ,
    in the case of walcott , someone said he should die!!
    i called him a overated a c…
    thats after watching another non display from the great hope of england.
    look he gets paid 60,k a week, look at his performances even though he is probably playing out of position.
    he does not fight, close down when we loose the ball and his first touch is woeful.
    lets face it the fact that he is english lets him get way with him being ordinary at best.
    if he was french or african the press would cane him , he quite simply has no football brain ,
    his pace is the only thing he has in the 80′s villa had a wide player called tony daley he was the same.
    my friends this kid has played to many games now to be a project it’s time to be real and admit that he’s simply not good enough.all those who defend him go on about his hatrick for england i dont give one lets look at what he’s consistently done for the arsenal .

    Almunia is the worst keeper i have seen at arsenal i thought that shabin was bad.
    last night showed us that these pampered prima donnas (bar gallas, arsh,cesc, vermy) are just bottlers.
    we need to admit that really if we are serious about winning titles we get three points and dominate games against the burnleys of this world.
    THIS MANAGER HAS GONE AS FAR AS HE CAN,
    bring back a winning mentality , with hungry players and coaching that brings plan a,b,c, to games .
    another master display of substitutionsfrom wenger again last night , wenger and rice have morphed into taylor and neale.

  24. choy

    I don’t blame the players, they are not good enough.

    It is arsene telling them and the whole world that they are good enough when they are not.

    This youth thing has been taken too far.

  25. Pat

    “Cesc Fabregas is desired by us for many reasons,” Laporta is quoted by The Sun. “Barcelona have decided to fight for the kid for next season.

    “The money? This will be decided at the end of March to prepare for a deal.

    “Cesc is such a big player. Our intention is to convince the Londoners about the sale.

    “It won’t be easy, but we have good relations with the Gunners.”

    Now theres a fucking cunt.

  26. Pat

    Traore might be back against Villa.

    Its Hull SUGA. ALl those players are better than Hull’s midfielders.

    Denilson and Diaby won’t play in the same midfield anyway. Ramsey, Song, and one ofDiaby/Denilson

  27. SUGA3

    Pat,

    we have lost to them at home last season once in the league and won the other time in the cup thanks to a dubious goal…

    nevertheless, I hope these cunts will feel the wrath of a wounded predator ;)

  28. Pat

    WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO SIGN ROMELU LUKAKU.

    He’s 16 years old, next Drogba and scored 2 goals away against Ajax today, and its only the 55th minute.

    This kid is brilliant.

  29. Pat

    He had 9 goals in 15 games for Anderlacht before today…and he’s only 16 ffs.

    I hate it that we always miss out on players like kaka, Ribery, CR, etc.

    Sign them early Wenger and you won’t have that problem. Overpay a bit and it’ll end up being worth it.

  30. SUGA3

    I seriously hope so, otherwise we are fucked…

    I just figured out one the thing about ‘killing’ players – why keep useless peroxide bimbo in goal instead of letting a ‘talented youngster’ to express himself against a mediocre side at home?

    a few players had a go at Al during the game – I hope Wenger will see the light and drop him for the team spirit sake…

  31. Pat

    Choy, not with this kid. He doesn’t even look like a kid!

    He’d trouble CBs more than any of our forwards, fact.

    we’ve been crying out for a presence up front, he’ll give us that.

    We get kids that no one else wants. We should get the kids everyone is after. Thats the difference.

  32. reggie57

    Im totally lost for words after that non performance last night,when is AW gonna face up to it that this present shambles of a team is not gonna win anything in a month of sundays,the fans see it,ex players see it,but AW blames every one else when the solution is staring right back at him.If he fails to resolve the situation in next months transfer window,time for him to take the only way out offer his resignation and let some else fix the problem.If Cesc or any player wants to leave with him? fuck off and leave as we the fans are sick and tired of the bullshit that Wenger comes out with,other clubs/managers are laughing at us and its all down to AWs stubboness.

  33. zeus

    SUGA3 Says:
    December 17, 2009 at 18:56
    we will see OGL’s dream midfield then: Song, Denilson, Diaby…

    God help us all…
    ———————————————————
    Spot On. The football Gods are really having a laugh at our expense. It being a home game I hope Ramsey gets the call but thats just crazy talk. Crab football it is then come the weekend.

  34. Pat

    Kolo Toure to Barcelona rumors appearing.haha

    Btw, watching barca recently, all their CBs are struggling atm. Pique, Marquez and Puyol

  35. David

    The Arsene Enigma.

    We all want more than anything for Arsene to raise the EPL/CL trophy so we can all have a laugh at the pundits and tell all devils…especially the red ones to go to hell.

    Remember when We used to be skint?

    ROFL.

  36. leon

    there were quite few flat performances on the day from some of the players but thats not what worries me because that will happen at times they realy lack penetration at times and they realy need a target man so badly.i feel when it comes to edwardo he just lacks confedence i cant remember the last time he played a full 90 minutes once he gets his confedence back you will alot better performances from him but there is no dought that cesc is a huge huge miss.almunia realy worries me he does communicate well when it comes corners he looks very unconvincing i realy think should fabianki more chances

  37. David

    Fact is that im afraid Arsene isnt interested in winning trophy’s.

    Hes more interested in kids coming good. Even if it means they do it in their 40′s.

  38. leon

    i feel edwardo is top top player but is lacking in match fitness and confedence ,bretna is not best player but they could with right now he would have given them a different dimention his physical presence would have helped no end.vela is quality player without dought but he is only 20 and this only his second season the prem the kid just needs time he will get there has lots trickery just needs to beef up,i realy feel with edwardo fans should be a bit patient i think people forget just how long he was out injured and alot of it mental for him wenger has realy protected and i think he is quite right.whom ever brings in must be a big trouble maker,someone who hold the ball up and deal with set play and corners,a play maker but is very strong and powerful with alot stucture and i dont think its a matter of better they something different to what they have right now and all the players wehave all are very good play makers but none can bully defenders like rvp and bretna

  39. MnM

    erm… I think he did more than ‘ok’ against Liverpool away (man of the match) and is one of the few players who basically can always be counted on.

  40. Pat

    SUGA, Burnley aren’t really an “in your face” side.

    Funnily enough, Denilson usually does well against those type of teams, especially if they’re below the top 9 or 10.

  41. SUGA3

    Man of the match?

    ‘scuse me…

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

    aaaahahahahahhahahahahaha hahahahaha

    *cough*

    hahahahahaha aaaahahahahah hahahahaha

    keep’em coming…

  42. SUGA3

    Pat,

    we got absolutely outplayed & outpaced by Burnley…

    the last thing we needed there was another crustacean merchant – at least Song played OK without him…

    these two toghether on the same pitch is a recipe for a disaster, unless the opposition is completely cack ;)

  43. Samir

    Every year we get worse IMO.
    Every year we lose our best player’s and some shit youngsters take their place.

    Managers are supposed to replace players with better ones, that’s if they let them leave…..

    We should have replaced Henry,Adebayor,Viera,Campbell,Lehmann

  44. Samir

    Especially Chris Eagles. He is alot better than Walcott.

    Why can’t we have a player like Lennon. He plays well in everygame. He usually causes LB’s hige problems.

    Walcott just stand there and cant be arsed in general.

    Sell Walcott, Almunia, Diaby, Rosicky, Traore, Randall, Denilson, Mannone…….

  45. SUGA3

    Pat,

    we were unable to string three passes together and Burnley had more clear cut chances, Burnley for fuck’s sake…

    we looked much better in the cup last season even though we lost…

  46. choy

    Lennon was even worse than walcott at his age.

    The problem with this youth policy is that there is too much pressure to perform.

  47. choy

    It’s just his 3rd or 4th start suga.. and most of the games have been away!

    New formation, and he’s been out a really really long time.

  48. Samir

    Walcott is only 20 and it’s not his fault.

    WTF is Wenger doing to this club.

    Our best DM’s are Song and Denilson.
    Our best RW is Walcott.
    Best GK (in Wenger’s opinion) is Shit Al.

    Walcott would be fine on the bench for Arsenal but he is not starting material. Same goes for Almunia,Song,Denilson,Diaby.

    We should be playing(When fit);
    ________Fabianki__________
    Sagna–Gallas–Vermy–Clichy
    _____?????–Fabregas–?????___
    ___Van Persie–?????–Arshavin_________

    Subs;
    Szczesny
    Walcott
    Gibbs
    Eboue
    Rosicky
    Eduardo
    Bendtner

  49. SUGA3

    Maciek,

    I love the fella and really want him to do well, but he is not suited to play CF in 4-3-3 IMO…

    he has fuck all ball shielding ability and does not do turns ;)

  50. leon

    samir you dont sell a player of the quality and experience of risicky unless you have extremly good replacement and how can put lennon in same class as risicky dont get that as troae is good up commimg player but the rest i have to say i just see them making it

  51. SUGA3

    choy,

    that is all because he went to bullshit U21 tournament and did not get the rest like he was supposed to – that was some fucking idiotic thing to do and for that he should be fined and hung out to dry by AW…

    but no, he is getting paid £60K per week and can finally afford to buy his girlfriend a fucking Ferrari and obviously has plenty of time to write kiddie books – what the fucking fuck?

  52. Pat

    Burnley had more clear cut chances? No, not really.

    We had Nasri 1 v 1, Cesc hit the side netting from 8 yrds, Arshavin post, and Cesc penalty appeal.

    Burnley had post. Anymore to the left and if would have hit Almunia anyway!

    The offside goal, which I wouldn’t call clear cut cause Almunia saw the flag and let it go…hopefully!

    Thats it. 4 to 2 max

    We had a better passing percentage than Burnley, so don’t tell me they passed better than us, cause they didn’t.

    Burnley ffs? Umm, they’re one of the best home teams in the league mate.

    SO if we fail to score against Birmingham away, you’re going to say Birmingham ffs?

    HINT: They are 2nd on the clean sheets table.

    Stop judging teams by their name. Shows complete ignorance and lack of knowledge

  53. SUGA3

    Maciek,

    so can any headless chicken…

    I am so disappointed, as I really rated him and it was painful to see him struggle…

    any normal team puts such player in ressies to let him gain confidence and come back to form: Malouda, Downing – shall I carry on?

  54. Maciek

    Gooner 786. Ellia is CLASS! But HSV have just bought him and do You honestly belive uncle tight arse(ne) will splash about 10m to buy him?

  55. Pat

    Di Maria scored 2 today.

    And David Villa must be one of the worst penalty takers in the world(for a striker)!

    Every time I see him, he seems to miss his penalties. Did so today again

  56. Maciek

    Pat. Di Maria is class. But he will end up in Manchester( City probably). I just can’t see Wenger paying 20m for him. I like Arda Turan, Elia.

  57. SUGA3

    Pat,

    like I said, I know that there is just one team that managed a win at Turf Moor and it was Blackburn (who managed to bang in 3 goals) – this is the plan B we are lacking: power, power, power…

    leaving Ebowie out and selecting out of form Theo was clueless, as is continuing with that 4-3-3 bullshit without having personnel to do so…

    and no, I am never judging teams by their name – it’s always 11 vs 11 and the team that wants it more wins, barring games where absolute quality meets absolute cack ;)

  58. SUGA3

    Maciek,

    neither, but if I was to choose between the two it would be Milner for being more powerful and less injury prone…

  59. Pat

    If Eboue started and was shit, you’d be complaining SUGA. You were heralding Theo before the game, so you’d definitely be complaining if Eboue was shit. Admit it! =D

  60. SUGA3

    CB, CF & DM will do for me…

    we could do with a battering ram to break down the teams who park the bus: Cetin, Inler & Jones would do…

    but we shall continue with the midget nonsense, right?

  61. SUGA3

    Pat,

    yes I was and I am not denying that – but he shou;d be on the bench and should be introduced in the 2nd half…

    being subbed in the halftime could provide him with a necessary kick in the arse, but Wenger always makes substitutions in the 60th minute (give or take 3 minutes) – so predictable it’s ridiculous…

    Wenger was happy that he can still surprise a few people after 13 years – well, you are not surprising anyone here Arsene…

  62. SFOGooner

    After again watching the first half of the burnley match, i think we were extremely unlucky not to score the second goal ..
    Arsh had two great chances which were much easier then the liverpool goal he scored ..

    The second half I am not gonna watch again ..

  63. SFOGooner

    Despite scoring, cesc is not a natural finisher .. The chance he had immediately after scoring, he goes for the near post while good finishers would have curled it to the far post ..

  64. leon

    samir lennon is good player very good but the fact is a fit risicky is a world class player and right now is see him as squad now but he quality player but he not played full game yet as for thoe he is the same thoe all he can do is run has no vision no trickery nothing the fact winshire is far ahead of him and i would pick aa risicky nasri and edwardo before him

  65. A

    Pat you’ve got yourself confused there, generally in terms of intelligence wingers have less than anyone else, because you don’t need intelligence to be a winger, as you do in every other position. Theo isn’t a winger though, he’s a goalscoring wide man, as ljungberg was.

  66. SUGA3

    leon,

    Rosicky epitomises what is wrong with this club – class he may be, but he cannot keep fit and makes an illusion of making up the numbers – offering him a new contract is beyond ridiculous: what is the point? it’s not like he has any resale value and cannot stay fit…

  67. SUGA3

    A,

    when I think we used to have players like Freddie, something boils inside me…

    same thing when I think how Bobby was treated just to give ex Manc 2 year contract a few years later…

    in hindsight, Bobby would do better than Rosicky (at least he would stay fit)…

  68. A

    SUGA3 he had a real long term injury, that was cured and with that cured it will take time for his body to rebalance itself and get to a point where he can play a number of games on the bounce. Writing him off now or not giving him a new contract would be ridiculous, there’s no reason to believe he won’t contribute alot, and to buy someone of his quality would be incredibly expensive, and a waste of money that would be much better used elsewhere. Whether he plays 25 or 50 games a season he’s only there until Wilshere and Merida come through anyways

  69. A

    Gotta disagree SUGA, Pires when he left us was nowhere near his former self, and nowhere near Rosicky level, and physically not up to playing in the premiership

  70. SUGA3

    Rosicky – he is going to do a Flamini…

    anything but a pay as you play deal is a waste of money, as he will never be fit to play regularly – like I said earlier, Owen doesn’t think he is too good for that…

  71. A

    Oh ok SUGA, I’ll be shocked and very pissed off if he did do that SUGA, he doesn’t seem the type, I’ve always liked him.

    Owen isn’t actually on a real pay as you play, he still has a decent size base salary, he just gets more the games that he plays, it isn’t like he isn’t paid anything if he wasn’t playing.

  72. SUGA3

    and surch Owen style deal is what he should be offered – any ‘real’ contract would be a pisstake…

    but then again Theo, Dudu and other underachievers got new improved contract without contributing shit…

  73. choy

    Sending off pires and offering silvest a 2yr deal was heartbreaking.

    Pires would’ve stayed here for life, that I am sure.

  74. A

    Pires left at the right time imo. One of my favourite players and an absolute legend for us but his time was done when he left.

  75. SUGA3

    A,

    no, he would still be excellent for us – would still contribute a lot just like Giggs does for Manure…

    Vieira was past it, but not Bobby…

    plus, the club lost a lot as a brand by letting all the legends go…

  76. choy

    There is no right time, he could’ve done the business, not in every game but as a substitute.

    Imagine theo and the younger lads learning from him.

    He gave everything for the club and we couldn’t even offer him a 2 year deal.

  77. SUGA3

    thing is A, Wenger wanted to keep him, but only on a one year deal (perhaps more later) – what a twat, that was fucking insulting…

  78. A

    SUGA3 that last season with us he wasn’t effective at all. He was never the strongest, but a gust of wind would blow him over towards the end, and we didn’t have a team of strong players like Utd who could accomodate someone like that. Tie in we weren’t financially capable of having Pires on a good wage, and bringing in someone else, and the fact that he wanted first team football, and he left at the right time imo.

  79. A

    Yeah I agree choy, if he’d stayed as a bit part player then it would’ve been great, but he wouldn’t have accepted that, and I don’t believe we could’ve afforded to do that and bring in another player too, so it was the best for everyone when he left. Ljungberg was kept on at least a year too long too imo.

  80. A

    I dunno SUGA, I was thinking yesterday, with Song and Diaby in midfield, and Bendtner and VP up top, we’d actually be pretty powerful

  81. SUGA3

    I think Freddie was past it fitness wise, unlike Bobby – should have flogged the former and kept the latter IMO…

    and we would have more than enough dough to keep him, but we just have to spend zillions on some fucking teenagers, eh?

  82. SV

    Wenger: “after we conceeded, it was like a cup tie for them”. So, we have a manager complaining that the team did not give up againts Arsenal. But do you know what? The next team (Hull) will be playing like it’s a cup tie final (oh, yesy, there is a history here). And the next team (in-form Villa) will be absolutely up for it (admit it, you already have wet pants thinking about another Chelsey-like home beating). And resergent Avram Grant’s Portsmouth away… But here a suggestion. May be EPL is too tough for us? Should we play Barnet instead? (oh, wait, 2:2 in the preseason). “Mentally, we are in the title race now”… Now. We are not, and have never been.

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