I thought it quite amusing that when Bobby Zamora threw a wobbly after he scored at the weekend, he blamed the blogs for digging him out, well whilst I have no idea what they said, he has to understand that if us fans, who ultimately pay his wages, have a dig, it’s because we are fed up watching highly paid footballers not doing the business and it’s the only way we get a chance to have a say. It’s our voice.
I’m glad it came up because it shows we are read by them, he wouldn’t complain if they wrote great things though would he? And it does prove my point that the players and the management do read the blogs.
Well done for letting us know, we appreciate you acknowledge our hard work. Perhaps you should question your own performances from time to time.
Check out Wrighty7′s view on diving England players if you get the chance.
Onto Arsenal, we are fielding a young team tomorrow in a match that doesn’t matter, save seeing our beloved team in action, they get a second chance to show how good they are and I hope they play well. I really hope they win as I would like to think Standard Leige still feel they have a chance.
We are being linked with many players in the window and Dzeko, Chamakh and Bojin are on the list, as long as we buy someone I will be happy, I would be happier if we went for a keeper, a defender and a defensive midfielder, but I can’t see that happening somehow.
Bojin is an interesting one as many of you see him as too small, I see him as a Barca player and it would be nice to nick one of theirs for once, my first choice though would be Dzeko as he is a proven goal scorer and we have needed one of them since Henry went. Though Cesc would be delighted if we signed Bojin.
Talking of Cesc, he says we need a different type of striker, he says a Drogba would make all the difference, the only one like Drogba out there, apart from Drogba of course, is Dzeko, maybe we’ll all get a nice Christmas present from the boss, who knows eh?
I watched QPR last night and I’m not sure we’ll be recalling Simpson, I like him a lot, but he is the same sort of size as what we have and I think we need some height in there, the good thing is we will always need striker because we always get injuries, so whoever we get, we’ll use.
I’m not at all fussed about them being cup tied, because they would only be affected by one competition, we are still in three and the chances of winning the ECL is remote, I’m not saying we won’t, I’m just saying our priorities should be domestic, if we went all the way, they would get plenty of games and teams like Bordeaux and Wolfsburg stand no chance of winning it, so I couldn’t see that as an obstacle for them joining us.
Interesting times, I just hope we don’t sign another kid that has potential, if Wenger has learned anything with Arshavin and Vermaelen, it’s signing a grown up helps the team, screw the future, as Arshavin says, we have enough youngsters for that already.
Enjoy today Grovers, tomorrow we get to see the future…again!
Bayern 4-1 Juve. And Chelsea is drawing 2-2, lets hope that continues at the weekend vs Everton.
There must be something in the water in the red side on Manchester. How in Gods name do they get away with these things. Virtually one natural defender and they hardly get troubled at all. Plus they win by two clear goals, away from home to boot..
Lets see what our kids can do tomorrow.
Is Milan out?
A..dont think they will be punished*CSKA* even if the two players banned for doping, might just be the top of the iceberg…look at other rather surprisingly results involving eastern teams…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/dec/08/berezutsky-ignashevich-cska-moscow-drugs
CSKA just scored. 2-1
if they actually were done for doping they would be songthegreat, because they would be deemed to have gained an advantage from the drugs. If it’s ruled to just be an administrative error though I’d imagine they’ll be ok.
italian football is very very poor….
Let’s hope the kids play well tomorrow and we get that Unirea team in the next round ..
maybe A..but i think money will take care about that…there will be a *doctor*who is going to be the scapegoat…latest on the story is that it was some sort of flu medicine they had taken…so we all can se where its headed…furthermore there is always more difficult to ban a team…the two players might be given a two year ban..
but lets see..
Not sure how anyone can see that game and Say Dzeko is over-rated.
Scored a goal, created chances…and tormented that defense all night.
He does all the things we need in a big man.
Good in the air, Great point man, Decent link up and fantastic with back to the defender.
I don’t think its fair to judge Dzeko based on the 1 performance that we have seen to day. We were never going to bid for him, but if one is going to write him off as useless at least watch him for the next few games before you arrive at such a conclusion.
if proven guilty …that is…still if CSKA is punished…Wolfsburg are trough and dzeko will not be for sale….in my mind thats ok…we dont need him..if you look at dzekos game he is no better than Bendtner similar player..
David,
With his height he should be doing better against Evra and Co who are harldly regular center-backs ..
zeus fair point but i have seen him 8 times this season..and he has had some good games and he is a good player…still…well just my opinion zeus..
lets see what happens ..
Ok Mr Song.
Now your just having a laugh.
cska goes through
im not David but as i said he’s not a poor player..and has a pretty good link up play..i might be wrong..and if the price is right..well it may happen…lets see…
Bendtner is a proven fuck up.
Dzeko scores goals for fun.
Big difference.
Typically the way it works with Arsenal is that if a team parks the bus like United did today and we can get that first break through goal then the boys can settle down and play their game.
I think even with Sagna/Clichy crosses hed do well.
But seeing as we are already getting Chamakh…
for me David..Gattusso would fit the bill…and maybe a goalie..
well David if thats your opinion..nothin much i can say …but disagree…if Bendtner had played in a similar postion as dzeko and in the german league…he would have scored just as many……..premier is a much tougher league than the german..thats for sure..
Gattuso is a dirty cunt, and an ancient one as well – not exactly the same player he was…
if we get some spine bang through the middle we could do with Fabianski in goal IMO…
chamakh isnt that bad…and he could sort of the prob we have…dzeko might too…but again comparing to Bendtner…im not sure
SUGA3..
Gattusso is at the end…still he would be a warrior…there has only been one player better than him..vieira and maybe dunga …
maybe even cana if he had the finishing touch…
StG,
I just cannot see a fella that is 31, below 6 ft and can hardly cut it in Serie A being of any use in the Prem…
if I was to raid Milan, I would get Flamini back…
suga3 height is pretty much irrelevant!
I agree though, not up for gattuso, though i wouldn’t want flamini back either
SUGA3..
well i would never get flamini back…he really isnt much of a player im afraid…sub at Milan hardly ever plays…and milan isnt very good…no let him stay where he wanted to be….
Not 1 to bash players but I have to agree with David on Bendtner even though I wish he would show more sympathy and patience considering he is a 21 yo player.
Still Bendtner has shown nothing to suggest that he can be a top class striker. On his best day he is as cumbersome as they come. He has a lot to prove yet. Even playing in his favored position for Denmark he has quite looked the business.
There are times that we don’t even see the raw potential that we see with ramsey.
wow snow!
the point really is we will not buy a midfielder..wenger doesnt want one…a front man maybe..and maybe he is starting to see that Almunia isnt going to be what he expected….we should have gone after Given…
agree that Bendtner hasnt been all that yet..but he is young and have potential..maybe buy a front man and let Bendtner develop behind that player whoever it might be….
more important is to sell off some players..Senderos..Eduardo..Rosicky..Silvestre..Almunia…Eboue…Traore..and give Walcott an ultimatium..prove yourself or….but he should get the chance when injury free..
ashley young vs fletcher should be a good one to watch on saturday
I agree SUGA I think we should get Flamster and Hleb back that would really make my Christmas
one thing about flamini is that he must wonder what on earth he did….looking back he made a terrible mistake leavin Arsenal…since he left everything has gone against him..out of the National tema..dont play at milan….hleb well he admitted he made a mistake…
A if your still around we should check whats gonna happen to CSKA….
choy it’ll be interesting, the biggest fouler in the prem against the biggest diver in the prem!!
songthegreat the hearing is set to the day before the draw apparently – we won’t know until then
ok many thanks A ..good work
A, height is not irrelevant – height (or lack of it) largely contributed to us losing v Chavs…
Man U don’t have a huge striker.. they seem to doing pretty fine.
how’s that stu?! we conceded three goals, none of which height had any impact on whatsoever! We lost to chelsea because we couldn’t create against them, nothing to do with height. Unless you mean we have no plan B so need a big forward to be able to lump it to, though the height of centre mids has nothing to do with that
What about Berbatov choy. He’s pretty big and although he isnt the battering ram type forward like Drogba his height does help.
Height isnt everything (proof being Crouch) but it is pretty important.
Stu it’s only important when it comes to defending set pieces, and we’ve improved massively when it comes to that. Or if you need a plan B, a forward to lump it up to
What about Barca last season.
They just had Yaya Toure who’s probably a tall fella,
I think its more to do with physical strength rather than height..
Not just set pieces. Generally taller players are stronger too ie harder to push off the ball.
We need a flamini/ tevez / mascherano type of player..
One who keeps running around closing down players.
Pique, Abidal, Busquets, Keita and Henry is over 6ft too. They have hidden height in their team. Not considered physical players but certainly capable of winning a lot of physical battles (not that teams in spain get physical).
I wouldn’t agree with that Stu, strength is important, but not height, you have plenty of small players who are difficult to push off the ball, makalele types as DMs, or Rooney/tevez as forwards.
I agree that strength/power is important, but not either, except at set pieces.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1234278/The-Top-Gunners-Tom-Cruise-set-Arsenal-debut-Arsene-Wenger-picks-young-Guns-European-trip-Olympiakos.html?ITO=1490
shows just how clueless the daily mail are, theo centre mid?!
ManU is very accurate on crosses,so they cross low and hard and scores many tap inns.in our case none of our player knows how to cross,so we need a tall target man,who can convert those half chances on crosses.
Difference is A that our small players arent particularly strong or built for whatever reasons. Rooney, Tevez etc etc might be shorter players but they arent small in the same sense as our players.
Their lack of height is made up for with their width.
I wouldn’t say anything is made up for by anything else Stu, height and strength/power are different things, I agree that we lack power at times, but height in itself isn’t particularly relevant at all.
I agree though that our players aren’t particularly powerful, and that’s where we’re lacking a bit, which is why Song and Diaby to an extent are so important to us.
I also expect Bendtner to be very important when he returns
Chelsea scored 2 crosses against us. They used low crosses to feet and they paid off. When we cross Sagna just tosses the ball in without aiming it (imo). If he just looked up and crossed it waist height then we might score some more goals.
Best example of how to low cross :ibrahimovic’s goal against Real a few weeks ago. Brilliant cross by Alves and Ibra sidefooted it in (cant find a clip if it).
How do you guys reckon we’ll line up tomorrow?
Where will JET play?
sell eduardo? i don’t think thats a good idea.
bentner is a great talent imo. he will be the same as dzeko in the short future.
No need to sell, as it is we keep selling and hardly buy!
We sell 2 and buy 1
yeah Stu I agree, though Sagna’s crossing has definitely improved. That’s much more of an issue than height imo.
choy JET won’t start, he might come on as sub though
fabianski
gilbert song silvestre cruise
or
gilbert song bartley silvestre
then
ramsey eastmond/coquelin wilshere
theo vela merida
dunno why would he play Song in CB – frankly, Senderos is much, much better there and Song should be rested ahead Liverpool game…
*ahead of
SongtheGreat Says:
December 8, 2009 at 21:55
well David if thats your opinion..nothin much i can say …but disagree…if Bendtner had played in a similar postion as dzeko and in the german league…
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Irrelevant. Dzeko scores regardless. Whether in Germany, as an International or in the ChampionsLeague as we have seen today.
Comparing those two is men against babies.
Stu
Agreed,
Look at Bolton for instance….Davies inst exactly tall but he is one wide fuker.
Whats up with Senderos? Has he been forgotten?
I know we were planning on taking a weakened squad to Greece but having seen the confirmed squad im slightly worried. Im even expecting a bad result. I just cant see us winning away from home with such a young and inexperienced side in what will probably be a hostile environment.
This game may be irrelevant but i never like to see us lose….might see it tomorrow night unfortunately.
Why doesn’t he give senderos a game?
SUGA3 Senderos isn’t in the squad. I expect Song to play centre back, because Wenger seems to be playing him there when he can along with the league cup team, as if he’s developing his ability in that position alongside the kids developing their abilities in their positions. If Song was going to be rested he wouldn’t have travelled, playing centre back isn’t as tiring as playing in midfield too
Stu apparently Bartley injured him in training!
Injured him when A?
Smart thinking by Bartley…eliminate the competition..
Was Wolsburg that crap or United that great? Also, UTd were playing with Carrick and Park as defenders and still won. ???? Could someone,please explain it to me?
Maciek,
Everyone defended.
They played counter attack the whole game.
indeed stu, very clever, i hope he gets a game too, rather than cruise. in training yesterday apparently
If it only happened yesterday then why hasnt Senderos been selected all season? Especially when he could have been useful against city.
maciek utd sat very deep, wolfsburg controlled the game and had very good chances but missed them, and utd scored breakaway goals
obertan is proving to be good bargain!
oh yeah stu, maybe it happened before. I just read that it happened in training, and assumed they meant that day, but maybe it happened last week sometime. It did surprise me that he didn’t feature against city, though it was shortly after his talks with wenger about his future so maybe it’s just decided his time with us is over?
http://goonertalk.com/2009/12/08/senderos-injury-makes-exit-even-more-likely/
Im still not impressed by Obertan,
Fergie has always been attracted by flashy Wingers.
Elia anyone?
Thanks.Dave, at Utd. everyone seems to know how to defend. At Arsenal, aside from Vermaelen no one.
Night guys!
but he is just 20 now could go a long way.
anyways united doing much better than what they were expected to do without ronaldo and tevez
A,
Song is nowhere near as good as Senderos playing CB – what I am getting at is that the latter was ridiculously neglected: should be rotated with Billy against weaker opposition IMO…
i agree suga, i rate senderos higher than song at centre back, and feel he would still have been a very good back up if his heart was in it.
however centre back partnerships and defensive units are built on understanding and continuity, i disagree that there should be rotation between central defenders
Phil could form a formidable partnership with TV tho…
given the right coaching, that is…
Keown.
on that not I am off, one has to sleeeeeeep…
suga3 I agree, i wouldn’t have written him off as gallas’ replacement, but it’s obvious that something happened that made his position untenable. very unfortunate for him, and for us.
nite
nar A i dissagree with your line up , i think for this one wenger will still want to win yet , give the youngsters a run ….
who wouldnt , but im sure youll see an improved bench compared to the C.C , and possibly nasri – theo etc that sort of player .. you know eboue – song denilson !
all need game ..
i dont think eastmond will feature he was outclassed against man shitty ..
he needs to go back to basics …
and wait til next season
youve also got jack – ramsey – vela .. dudu needs some practice too !
i dont think you can afford to not play players who need to get their form up !
we all know wenger said he will field a younger side as its NOT high stakes tonight , we are already in …
but im sure wenger would like to ram it home currently ..
i think he will be foolish to go in ill prepared without a plan B , another loss would be disastrous for him at this stage !
morale busting to these kids ..
we buckle like that every christmas …
THINK ABOUT IT !
I dont give a shit who plays tonight, we are through, he should play any team that involves no one who will play or be cover for sunday. I could give a fuck if we get hammered 12 nil, its a nothing game tell the kids to go and fuck around.
Why risk anyone?
Yea, were into the knockouts. He needs to be focusing on sunday and the rest of decembers fixture, and wenger needs to be focusing on what bloody striker/cb/dm we are signing.
In Podolski, Cetin, tall dm.
Out-Rosicky, Senderos.
Wenger should tell the nippers to just get the ball and leather it as hard as they can at the goal.
try and lob the keeper no matter where they are.
He should tell our goalie this too.
And when they get bored of this they should dribble it round in circles for as long as they can and if an olympiak tries to tackle them they should start crying.
Once they have done this they should just lay on the ball. Then try to burst it by all kicking it at once.
some other shit they could try is breakdancing in the box, doing that move where you catch the ball on the back of your neck and running around with it, rolling it in dog shit and getting your mate to head it and standing on it and trying to balance for as long as possible.
AA23 have you considered working alongside Phil Brown?
maybe AA23 is phil brown ..
losing might be expected nowadays ..
so go on right ahead …
Does anyone realize another loss at this stage might kill off the rest of the season ?
thru morale alone !
i suppose blogger’s aren’t paid to think !
Actually Ethan I am paid to think.
Scary isn’t it.
I’ll also add that I think the kids will win the game.
i might be the administrator of TOUGH love ,
but wash your mouth out that a WIN isnt important … wenger has too many groupies thinking the same way !
the reason we are where we are NOW !is because we dont play our best team on the day !
so have a good loss AA23 , you want it … and im sure you., like wenger with that attitude will get what your looking for tonight ~! ..
AA23 Says:
December 9, 2009 at 06:46
Actually Ethan I am paid to think.
Scary isn’t it.
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me too , double scary huh
Wins build momentum, to ‘throw’ this game away tonight is to throw away all the hard work put in beating Stoke at the weekend….
I think the kids would have learnt from the citeh fiasco and take their chances frist time tonight.
A score draw is likely
The game tonight is irrelevant apart from how many injuries we get.
No one of note will play.
Maybe be on the bench.
So no injuries to really worry about
The squad for tonights game is alot lighter than I would have though, expected to see Phil but must be the end of the big fella here.
____________Fabianski
Gilbert___Song___Sly__Cruise
_______Ramsey__Eastmond
__Theo___Wilshere___Merida
___________Vela
Would prefer to see Song alongside Eastmond to give him so real support and see what Eastmond is really about. Perhaps JET will start left back but just think Cruise will slot in there alot easier.
Big night for these lads hope the do well and show some grit.
Why would AW play the closest thing we have to a DM tonight??
However, I suppose we are talking about the nutty professor here!
Fabianski, Song, Ramsey (to some extent), Theo, Vela have all been in or around the 1st team and know what it’s about.
They’ve also just experienced being brought down to earth at the northern chavs.
So not overconfident but willing should be the mindset.
Chamoneee young arsenal!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chozzer – nice avatar
Why is Watt not in the squad does anybody know??
Waiting!!!
F5 F5 F5..
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