Kolo is struggling with his form and they hope to get Ade’s back as well, sound familiar?

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How funny is that then! The £40 million Hughes has spent on two of our rejects have both lost their form and it’s not even Christmas yet! Serves the bastard right. He says they have both lost their form but he hopes it will return tonight, now where have we heard that before???

He also said ‘Some clubs won’t go into the market and spend £5million on an 18-year-old. Arsenal have done that on many occasions. They spend significant amounts of money on young talent and, at times, the experience of the so-called youngsters is greater than you would think’

Wenger is often lauded for his frugal transfer dealings, but Hughes insists that a massive amount of money is instead spent by the north Londoners on acquiring young players from around the world.

Well thats what I’ve been saying for two years, so he’s right there, he claims Arsene says he doesn’t spend on big players because he likes to bring on the youngsters, but it’s a false economy because by the time they get good, we could have bought a ready made that would have worked years ago.

Take Theo, Ramsey and Denilson, between them they cost £16.5 million, add the money they have cost in salaries and then you can work out how much they have really cost, and none of them are regulars, we could have signed 3 world class players and got change out of that and they would have been ready to go 4 years ago. And yes, that included the £4mil discount Southampton gave us.

Anyway, lets hope the kids do us proud tonight and that the rejects have another shit game. Wenger also claims the experience the kids get from the Carling Cup is invaluable, he cites Fabregas, Bendtner, Song and Theo as examples of how that benefits the team, I’m not sure what benefit we got on Sunday, I’m not sure what benefit the kids get from playing 3 games in a cup they eventually get knocked out of, but there you go.

I can’t see how bringing them into the first team occasionally is any different, at least if the first team played in the Carling Cup, we would possibly win something, the Chavs will field their top team, shitty will tonight, the Mancs will by the time the final comes, but we won’t and I cannot see how getting beaten eventually will help our youth players develop.

Still let’s hope they go out tonight and stuff the northern chavs, let’s hope they show the first team what a bunch of losers they were against the southern chavs, and let’s hope we see someone in there, that can can step up, because what we have in the first team is not enough to win anything this season.

Go the kids, good luck, you have the hope of a nation on your young shoulders!

Have a great day Grovers and let’s hope we have a great evening as well! I could do with something to smile about!

1,526 Responses to “Kolo is struggling with his form and they hope to get Ade’s back as well, sound familiar?”

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  1. SUGA3

    WB, and that is the problem: fuckers should be proud to wear the shirt and play out of their skins to win each and every trophy…

  2. Hitman

    1966
    lack of strength” “bullied” “pushed off the ball”
    followed by shambolic defending led to City’s
    goal.
    But you’re right, Wenger dont see it.
    This is where Gazidis & Hill-Wood have to perform their duties but they wont. They have to force Wenger to strengthen the squad or they must resign.
    Its the Arsenal fans job to put the pressure on the board. Chants of ‘Gazidis out’at the Emirates. Are WE the fans up to it ?

  3. zorr0

    Simon, give it a rest, different 11 players on Sat.

    If AW refused to shake Hughes hand that is pathetic. He is a really bad loser who makes himself look a right petulant twat!

  4. Pat

    I’ll take this loss as long as we win against Stoke. We can go 20 fucking years without a trophy, but I will never ever get worked up about a fucking pointless cup. I view this about as competitive as a friendly cup.

    On to Stoke. Rather Song miss this game than Liverpool or Burnley

  5. Teerex

    Perspective chaps – we did win a few games at the beginning of the season and scored quite a few goals. Things will turn around again but the season will be over by then unfortunately!

  6. David

    Mr. Wenger is such a visionary the way he set out a losing side today. Our first team couldnt beat them. So he sends out the kids. Wonderful Stuff. Thank you Arsene.

  7. Pat

    David, face the facts: It was a wonderful goal and Fabianski takes no blame for it.

    Franchise, no City beat us twice, not Ade.

    Showed today he’s as worthless as they come against a bad CB pairing he should be having a great game…yet he wasn’t.

  8. Rob

    Ratings:

    Fabianski-6 (did alrite, couldn’t have done more 4 the goals)
    Eboue-6 (also OK, was fairly solid
    Silvestre-4 (good 1st half, shit 2nd)
    Song- 3.5 (Have loved him recently, but that was pure crap)
    Traore-4 (…)
    Eastmond-4.5 (did fuck all, did nothing well)
    Ramsey-4 (What a shit game…)
    Rosicky-3 (No desire, no effort, no result)
    Wilshire-5 (OK)
    Merida-4 (On the groung most of the time, lost the ball far too much. Exhibit A, second goal)
    Vela-6.5 (Made the most of the shit supply, made some good runs, created a chance for Ramsey and a couple for himself)

    From that, the only player even close to being worthy of first team is Vela

    PEOPLE SAY THAT ROSICKY IS ALLOWED NOT TO CARE BECAUSE HE IS PLAYING WITH 20 YEAR OLDS

    WE ARE PAYING HIM 50,000 a WEEK< SO HE SHOULD FUCKING CARE

    Do you agree with ratings???

  9. Maqitlarge

    Our players were laughing and joking when congratulating the City players! I’m sure the travelling fans would be delighted to see that.

    Something is rotten!

  10. zorr0

    So David, why send the 1st team to lose again. Then they get injured or they are at 95% due to playing tonight and let in a last minute equaliser v Stoke.

  11. Baxter Wall

    I can take losing. What I can’t take is that once again, they wanted it more than us right across the pitch, even Adebayor.

  12. choy

    It has been imbedded in their minds that this is a worthless cup,

    we are the high and mighty, we only play in the champions league!

  13. charybdis1966

    Let’s hope the Chavs get loads of injuries as a result of playing extra time.

    Let’s a pray for tweaked hamstrings, torn ligaments and muscle strains at Ewood.

  14. Gooby

    where are you wenger?? what the fuck.
    i remember vieira, pires, henry, the great dennis, sol.

    these players, they inspire strengh confidence, true champions!

    the crap we gotnow, yes the crap cause i, we can’t stand it anymore: denilson, song, silvestre, traoré, senderos…where are you wenger????

  15. David

    Yea Zorr0

    First team, Second team, Third team, Kids, babies, grown men.

    Arsene spent the last 5 years putting this sack of shite together who are no closer to winning anything since we lost PV4.

    Personally id have mixed it up more. But thats just me.

  16. choy

    I think it is easier to win the cup than the league!

    Its not that we have a 11 point gap at the top, leading everyone.

  17. zeus

    I feel like a broken record when I say this, but i was never a ‘Wenger Out’ advocate, but my opinion is turning.
    It seems to me that after 5 years of not winning anything that cherry picking trophies that we want to go for should go out the window. A trophy is a trophy is a trophy. We do more to win the Emirates cup than we do to win the CC really.

    You want to know the difference between our kids and Man Utd’s. Its not class, because we have the best kids in England, its knowing what victory tastes like. Knowing what is necessary to win. That we don’t have because everyone offers the same old thing. Passing passing passing.

    Its the same at Barca which is why those fuckers spent 90m euros the season of the treble. We cant spend that of course but with this once great man at the helm we will go 6,7,8,9 years w/out shit.

    How long does he think he can fall back on the INVINCIBLES?

  18. finestcuts

    Lads chill out, it was kinda obvious we’d get beaten tonight, 3-0 is a distressing scoreline, but onwards and upwards. What does this prove to Wenger? He needs to shake things up, pronto. I wanna see us bidding for players for every deficient position in the team.

  19. Arse&Nose

    What a royal cunt Mark Hughes is, from the first minute he stood shouting obscenities at the officials.

    Shouting “cheat” at arsenal kids, and claiming “hand ball” every time the ball went close to an arsenal player! He even had time to patronise Wenger by making him wait for a handshake then waving to him when he gave up and walked down the tunnel.

    If he acts like this over a carling cup game against kids how will he handle the pressure when City end up winning fuck all?

    This was the behavior of a desperate man.

  20. Confidentgoner

    The excuse will be that they beat our kids. But thats bullocks. They beat our senior team as well! It was our choice to field the young guns, so thats not a good excuse. ManU played their kids and won yesterday

  21. Jay20h

    Our players are juust to physically weak, its a shame but over the last 2/3 games that has been exposed.

    Vela needs a big man up with him. Traore was hammered tonight against SwP. Eastmond was out of his depth. Merida never got involed. These young ones are being taught how to fucking lose every season!!

  22. David

    And Pat

    Ade had a great header on goal that was well saved by Fab.

    SWP terrorized us.

    The joy’s of having pacey wingers on your team.

    Oh how lucky we are.

  23. goonermichael

    See you all later. Be good. No calling people cunts. Except our team and manager. and board. and pat rice. and the medical team. and the stewards. and did I forget anyone?

  24. Big Raddy

    Fine “supporters” you lot are.

    Did anyone and I mean anyone expect us to win tonight? No-one on LG did-

    We played well, got done by two superb bits of skill, and a sloppy meaningless goal. So what….

    If you guys can only see the defensive faults with the first two goals then you watch a different game to me. Tevez’s goal was just genius. OK you could point at Ebway and say he didn’t get in a tackle but he would have given a pen if he got it wrong. You could say that Rosicky didn’t track back but he was blocked by Bellamy. But the shot was unstoppable.

    Same with SWP’s. To say that any GK would have saved it is rubbish. It went across him, not in on the near post.

    My only quibble with tonight was the poor performances from Rosicky and Silvestre (no surprise).

    As to the travelling famns …. well AW said the game was not a high priority. He didn’t bullshit them. They went because they support the Arse through thick & thin.

  25. WB

    look at the other aspect of playing youngsters in these games.if senior players play and loose it would have bad effect on their morale and so that they stay focused on winning whats really important.
    i think 3 pts on sat are much more important than winning this shitty game against shitty.

  26. Supergunner07

    Rob Says:
    December 2, 2009 at 21:54

    Ratings:

    Fabianski-6 (did alrite, couldn’t have done more 4 the goals)
    Eboue-6 (also OK, was fairly solid
    Silvestre-4 (good 1st half, shit 2nd)
    Song- 3.5 (Have loved him recently, but that was pure crap)
    Traore-4 (…)
    Eastmond-4.5 (did fuck all, did nothing well)
    Ramsey-4 (What a shit game…)
    Rosicky-3 (No desire, no effort, no result)
    Wilshire-5 (OK)
    Merida-4 (On the groung most of the time, lost the ball far too much. Exhibit A, second goal)
    Vela-6.5 (Made the most of the shit supply, made some good runs, created a chance for Ramsey and a couple for himself)

    ———————————————————————————–

    Traore was the worst player on the park followed closely by Rosicky

  27. David

    BR I expect us to win everytime we take the pitch.

    Everytime.

    The last couple of games have been a slap in the face.

    Well Well Keyser.

    Look who’s looking for an argument.

    That Wenger’s a genius and I love him alot. Seriously.

    He’s the best thing since two sliced bread and broken glass for ketchup.

  28. SUGA3

    how do you play Vela with no big man upfront on his own against those defenders? oh, I forgot, power & height is so last season as well…

    Wenger is a pussy, cannot handle real men, so he is running a little football academy here…

  29. gooner786

    Every year its the same old story. We get off to a good start then we lose a couple of players through injury, and were out of the league and carling cup by November.

    If Wenger bought a few quality players then we would not have to suffer this every season.

  30. Gooby

    pat rice is useless. bring on denis in the coaching staff.

    we need in: chamakh, mamadhou diarra, zapata.
    out: denilson, senderos

  31. incesc

    i used to love football, love arsenal… wenger is sucking all the joy out of it for me, he cant enjoy this either.

    He says he worked harder than ever last season. Why?? why bother??

    it cant be money, the invincibles didnt cost loads of money, they were a relatively cheap team. why must wenger try to turn shit players good. Hes obsession is fucking us over time and time again

  32. Bernard Baines

    shit. embarrassing pile of shit.first 2 goals were a result of us not sticking a foot in and watching them run at us with the ball. I love that the city fans were booing silvestre cus of his man u roots, while they love that little troll who was man u hero a ferw minutes ago. . .well. A friend of mine saw Tevez in the man u shirt section of a sports store a few weeks ago. Priceless. Vela looked pathetic, like a little child against lescott. Mark Hughes, myself and everyone commenting in this forum could do your job.

  33. David

    World Class Keepers Make World Class Saves.

    Fuck me.

    Fabianski’s positioning on SWP goal was shocking.

    He was too close to his near post.

    Well its been a while since we’ve had world class keeping so i cant say that i blame most of ye.

  34. choy

    We need someone to take us forward, we have been stuck in the same place for the last 4-5 years.

    reminds me of the movie terminal!

  35. SUGA3

    Gooby,

    I would keep Senderos (he’d do better than Song in CB today) – it’s a shame Wenger froze him out…

    Out: Denilson, Diaby

    In: Subotic, Inler, Chamakh

  36. Grandizer

    Thanks Arsene! Who cares about trophies when we’ve got stats to show how good we are ; ) ….the guy is deluded and slowly losing the plot. And acting like a big baby when we lose is simply embarrasing! We were never going to win that, i mean surely putting out a fall strength side would of allowed us to progress and generate more money anyway, its a no brainer!

  37. zorr0

    No-one is happy with us losing. No one is happy at the weak performance, particularly from more senior players. But, don’t lose sight of the reasons why AW does this in the CC. Or that citeh spent millions and played their best side. Or why it means so much to a 2 bob club to go all out to win it, like the scum.

    All I want to see, is that if so many of you are unhappy with AW, put your money where your mouth is and do something about it. Start an online petition and see how many votes you can get. See if you can organise something at a match to show you are unhappy.

    Just for fuck’s sake stop coming on here and bleating like a bunch of girls!

  38. Pat

    hahhah David, you are clueless. Fabianski was not at fault at all. You’re trying to find shit that isn’t there.

    Wenger made a mistake in playing Rosicky in there. He doesn’t know what the CC means to the youngsters.

  39. charybdis1966

    Eddy’s persecutors, Celtic, are out of the Europa. I’m trying to get small crumbs of comfort here.

    Fran-yes, you’re favourites would be most likely to win the Carling Cup, but we can hope for Villa or Blackburn at least.

  40. SFOGunner

    David ..

    Almunia positioning was the same for Drogba’s first goal. He was not near the far post ..

    Either all our goalkeepers are crap OR we don’t know what we are talking about ..

  41. B.B.K.

    arsene knows choy he will turn it around,just give him 2 more years…fuck the carling cup it’s a shit cup anyway

  42. gambon

    I actually think Wenger may have a mental illness.

    Back in 98, 02, 04 we were the most physical team in the league, a bunch of warriors, now were fucking little muggy cunts.

    It really is time for him to go.

  43. B.B.K.

    the answer is all of our keepers are crap,what should also be higlighted is the way rosicky just didn’t bother when he got brushed by bellamy

  44. Gooby

    inler and song would be terrific in midfield along with cesc.

    we would play chamakh with arshavin/eduardo and nasri/rosicky. with walcott and vela on the bench.

    we need strengh here. having chamackh, inler, song, sagna, gallas in the team would be nice for the physical aspect.

    lloris is requierd too, have u ppl seen him play? he is awesome,

  45. Arse&Nose

    Rosicky pissed me off, he is a senior player and seemed not too bothered. At the end we see him smiling and sharing a joke with the slovak kid who scored the 3rd for city.

  46. charybdis1966

    Hughes has just accused Wenger of not being “gracious in defeat”.

    Not a hint of a gloat there, of course.

  47. zeus

    HEHE, these people asking if we expected to win this game. Nope, we didn’t. AND THAT’S THE FUCKING PROBLEM. You people speak as if you expect the first team to do any better.
    I’m all fro supporting the beloved Arsenal, but not through delusional blind loyalty. We’ve given this experiment 6 years and counting and it aint working. It seems we are in constant transition because bullshit result like we have seen in the last few games makes the so called experienced lot ask themselves why in the world should I stay here.

    Even Fab4, don’t console yourselves with the notion that he is no better than Xavi or Iniesta so he would be benching if he left he would only play back up to them. The kid is a winner and winners want to win

  48. zorr0

    Fran, I don’t, but why don’t you do something positive about your opinions rather than just fucking moan? BBK, you too.

    If you are just venting, fair enough, but if you believe all the stuff you come out with, do something. That’s all I’m saying!

  49. SUGA3

    zorr0,

    you want to make a discussion or will you continue telling everyone who see that the Emperor wears no clothes to STFU?

    it’s simply not good enough – not only XI selection, but also the bench, which was fucking laughable…

    not taking any first teamers but Song & Rosicky was also a bit demoralising for these two…

  50. David

    Pat? Clueless?

    No sir Clueless is saying something Rosicky wasnt at fault for the first when clearly he lost the ball in a dangerous Area and expecting the ref to call a foul?

    That son is what you call Clueless.

    Clearly you dont know much bout GK.

  51. gambon

    “i do not think the solution is always [to buy]”

    “we have internal resources”

    “i think we have it [the mental strength] to bounce back, i have full faith in this team”

    “the team is lacking a bit [in confidence] but i think you will see the quality in this team when we win no trophies again, blah blah blah, 17 year olds, blah blah, live within our means, blah blah, cant wait to spend my £500k pay check on presents for my midget boys, blah blah”

  52. skandibird

    You know what??? I don’t give a fu*k anymore, I have honestly been soooo disappointed lately, and if we have one more season without any silverware, well, I don’t know if I can be asked to continue going to home games anymore. Can someone please convince me that we will succeed in the PL/CL? At the moment I just can’t see it……

  53. Franchise

    no one is 100% guilty of always moaning zorr0 maybe bbk is but he has his right and reason to.

    i like outspoken ppl who speak their minds whether i agree with it or not

    no one’s primarily role on here is to convert

  54. Big Raddy

    Oh yes I forgot that-

    AW should sign 9 new payers after all

    GK…. shit Though Fab looked good tonight.

    Sagna. Has been, can’t cross, can’t defend ….. sign Richards.
    Clichy …. finished. See above Sign Alves
    TV…. a keeper.
    WG … not interested. Lacks pace and focus…….. sign Hageland
    Song …. will never be good enough ….. sign Cana
    Denilson…… no power, no vision, a crab …. sign Inler/Diarra
    Rosicky …. will never become the player he was ….. sign Ireland
    AA …. lost interest, hates London , inconsistent. Sign a winger
    Cesc …. OK but will leave in summer.
    NB/Vela/ RvP/Dudu … just not good enough. Sign Dzeko/CHamakh/K.Jones etc etc
    Theo ….. just a reputation, no end product, rabbit in the headlights ….. sign Balotelli.

    There ….. is that right. It seems a fair summation of this evenings posts.

    Oh, and all the kids under 20 are shite as well.
    Ramsey despite getting rave reviews everywhere is now rubbish.
    Traore….. a lone star v the Chavs is now poor. Why? Because he was upfield when SWP ran at Silvestre.
    Merida …. up against Barry, an England regular.

    Sod it. I’m bored.

  55. gambon

    Gooner786,

    I think a random guy off the street could do a better job. He would certainly know we need a keeper, defenders, height and experience.

    Everyone in the football world knows it apart from one 60 year old french creche manager.

  56. sharky

    What s hit comment from Wenger…..I am free to shake hands with who I want, we now not only have a stubborn bastard as a manager but a very bad loser…that will not look god Arsene…….

  57. David

    Not sure what the point was to that Rant BR

    Nobody is saying that those players are shite…maybe they are but thats not what they mean.

    Not good enough to win when it matters = Shite.

  58. Franchise

    Jeez its hard to be a fan these days. one cant even express an opinion without getting harassed by certain factions

  59. SUGA3

    there is no need to do any soap box Wenger out bullshit, zorr0 – people will stop going to the games: not every game is a sellout these days anyway…

    don’t get me wrong, I’ll support this club till I die and I will go to every home game I can ;)

    but it is painful to watch this club going backwards…

  60. Pat

    David, it was obvious Almunia had horrible positioning in 2/3 of the Chelsea goals.

    Fabianski did everything right. He was closer to his near post than his far post. You are clueless.

    David, those goals are very common. You obviously don’t watch a lot of football.

    Also, blaming Rosicky for that goal despite Tevez going past 3 defenders. Again, you’re clearly clueless and you’ve always had something against Rosicky.

    He started to track back but Bellamy obstructed him. United would get that call every single time.

  61. gambon

    Big Raddy,

    So you think we’re on course for trophies then??

    Or just the usual AKB blind faith in he who “knows”.

    Jeez, AW is like a gallic David Koresh for some of you.

  62. David

    Tevez goal was unstoppable. Absolutely Brilliant.

    Not sure about SWP.

    Cant watch it again. Who cares.

    Im not convinced fabianski can or Will be World Class.

    World Class keepers make World Class saves. Ok enough of that.

  63. Big Raddy

    Gambon.

    as Franchise says, no-one here has the right to preach. I respectfully disagree with every word you wrote in your last post

  64. raynor

    Skandibird. Forget tonight, we had a couple of poor results lately, namely Sunderland and Chelsea, and it must have made AW realise we need some bigger, stronger players as we just can’t fight it out. We have plenty of skill and to be fair, if we had more power upfront we could have got at Chelsea. I think AW will try to buy now as its clear we just haven’t got a team capable of winning the league…For all AW’s comments about elief, he knows we can’t. He can’t exactly come oout and admit it, but his comments about buying tell a different story. I still think 3/4 new additions and perhaps letting a few go would be good for the team. We gotta make sure now that we buy in the window, and someone good enough to make a difference to keep us in the top 3 to keep the confidence high.

  65. charybdis1966

    Wenger says:
    “I am free to shake hands with who I want” when asked why he didn’t shake Mark Hughes hand.

    The tabloids are going to have a field day on this tomorrow !

  66. zorr0

    Suga, how many people on here directly say AW should go now? Loads.

    They are entitled to their opinion. All I am asking is that if they feel that strongly, to do something about it. That is generally how change happens.

    Too many all to happy to moan on here but let any action slide.

    Anyway, laters all.

  67. Pat

    Not saying Fabianski will be world class. He doesn’t have that attitude. Szczesny and Kuszczak can both be world class, especially since Kuszczak is finally getting more and more games.

    The Mancs all agree that he is miles better than Foster.

    David, you can watch it at 101greatgoals.com

  68. Franchise

    keyser i dont bother going on and on with certain bloggers after i have understood their stance. i know david dont rate bendtner so why should i spend hours endless arguing about nikib with him? or harassing bbk for his negativity? none of us here is the enemy. Arsene is 8)

  69. Big Raddy

    Gambon.

    Firstly, who the hell are you to call me an AKB?

    Secondly, I have my own opinion and don’t need you to give me one.

    Thirdly. Mr Koresh had some fine ideas…..

  70. David

    Pat

    Blah blah blah blah. I couldnt be fucking Arsed.

    Ofcoarse its not the players fault who lost the ball in a dangerous area. Its the refs fault for not blowing for a foul

    I dont watch football. Whats next im a spud?

    *yawn*

  71. SUGA3

    well, if Wenger doesn’t care too much about the Fizzy Cup, then why was he so animated on the touchline? and not shaking Hughes’ hand was piss poor…

  72. gambon

    raynor,

    You’ll be waiting a loooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnggggggg time for AW to sign anyone.

    Infact he said he will onkly enter the market when he hears about a snowstorm in hell.

  73. sharky

    Arsene is such a stubborn twat…..he knows the fans are screaming for a trophy but will not play our best 11 cos hes stubborn. Cc or not, we need aby silverware to restore the faith……TWAT!!!!! and shake hands you prick!

  74. raynor

    Tonights result was disappointing, maninly that we just didnt get into a groove and didn’t give the best account of ourselves. Citeh are just not as good as the sum of their parts, but still clearly light years better (or really that could be stronger) than our youngsters. Our more experienced players tonight all had off days, except Silvestre as he’s always rubbish. Perhaps they just didn’t have the confidence that they thought they could win.

    Also, I’ve never heard LJW get slated so much as tonight? He’s this, that, slow. Jeez, He’s like 17 or so. Did’nt seem crap to me in the Emirates Cup games when he was MOM twice in a row!

    It was our second string, and they really were’nt expected to win. 1-0 would have been more pleasing on the eye, but it is what it is.

    We’ll roll Stoke over at the weekend and then everyone can be happy again…

  75. Keyser

    Franchise – Hah, I was just asking if you’ve ever done that, your comments say it all.

    If BBK showed an ounce of positivity once in a while I think people wouldn’t be asking him if was a spud as much, not my fault. Don’t try and harass me for my opinion, thaaanks.

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