That’s the way I see it, we need to nullify the midfield threat of Essien and Ballack or Lumphard, if we stop them bullying us, we will win the game.
I read an interesting article on the life of Alex Song today and how he went to Paris aged eight and replaced Diaby in a French club called Red Star, he sadly lost his dad when he was young but it made him determined, Alex, I didn’t know that, that’s a shame, but the one thing I have always said is, that you were a trier.
Today we need you to boss the midfield, you need to shove your 6′ 1″ frame around the pitch and show them which team is going to win the league, this team of chavs is too old to beat us, today we show them what youth is all about. Start the game by giving Dogbreath a smack in the ribs, once you’ve done him, let potato head know who you are, let Cesc deal with the German. Do that and the midfield is ours.
With our pace and movement I expect us to tear them a new arsehole, I don’t want a patient build up, I want us at them from the off, no Djourou or Diaby today, so expect no own goals, today I expect a real message going out to the rest of the Premiership, today I expect nothing other than a resounding win, today we will find Jerusalem!
Ancelotti won fuck all at Milan, why would he win anything with the chavs? Those inbred players support every manager they have ever had, of course they do, that manager picks them, remember the days of Ranieri? They were going to strike if he got slung out, how many top, top paid twats have they supported since? 4, yes 4 top managers in as many years, what a bunch of slimy fucking hookers those players are.
Today we go forward with the same manager, the same team and the same crowd, because unlike the chavs, our fans have been around a lot longer than theirs, and our fans pre-date Abramovich.
Go on the Arsenal, show them who we are and who are the real pride of London, don’t sit back and wait for their onslaught, let them have ours.
Oh and Arsene, please go out and buy a world class striker or bring back Thierry, with the hand ball problem he has to carry, it may be time to bring him home, where he’s loved and where he feels safe, he knows he only has a couple of years left, that would suit us both.
Have a great day Grovers, today we show the world who the Arsenal are.
The sickest thing is that i always know we´r goin to lose against the chavs. We think that they are scared when we pas around in midfield but things are gong just the way they want it to. So f..ing depressing.
@ Swed
This is not me trying to gang up on a player to assign blame because I’m gutted, but I’ve NEVER really fancied Nasri. NEVER. I honest to God don’t know how some of you lot love him. He is over average for sure and he certainly has his moments but he has never really done it for me. He has yet to play 90 mins worth of football in a red and white shirt, always flickering in and out of games. Just my opinion on him.
Supergunner, I don’t think it’s one defeat is it?
Supergooner quote ” Colonel Mustard, You have just shown me you know nothing about tactics, look at teams who sit on the edge of their box to defend and break at speed [Current Man Ure team, Invincible team, Villa], they have lots of height in defence which our defence dont. We can use that tactic if we have right type of players”
riddle me this batman…
Question 1. Why was Ashley Cole allowed free reign down his wing?
Quesion 2. Why lump pointless balls into the box?
Question 3. Why leave the Chelsea midfield free reign? Lampard and Essien dominated with ease.
i said after United played Chelsea, that to stop Chelsea you must stop their fullbacks. That is the very first thing United focused on. They made the field very narrow and completely nullified Cashley and Ivanovic. Cashley got 2 assists today and had a world class display.
I’m not THAT impressed with Chelsea now that I have calmed down. I mean, they were absolute shit offensively no matter which way you look at it. In our 4-3-3 and in Barca’s 4-3-3 the CF is probably the most important player. RVP was injured for us. barca were pretty pathetic up front until Ibra came on. We need that link up player there and I cannot wait for Bendtner to get back as he is the only replacement for RVP. He has a shot as well, at least he does when he used it for Denmark.
Verm thought Gallas was going to clear the ball, I believe. Sagna let Cashley cross too easily/gave him too much room. Nasri didn’t track back and help Sagna all that much. If Theo started, Cashley wouldn’t be attacking as much imo.
Since fabianski is back, hopefully he’ll start now. We’ve only allowed 41 shots this season and 18 goals went in. That points to the keeper, not to the defense imo.
I’m not expecting our youngsters to beat City in midweek unless City rest players for Chelsea.
Who do we play next weekend?
I dont want to blow smoke up chelsea’s arse but they defend so brilliantly. I haven’t seen a team defend like a unit as well as chelsea in recent weeks for many years. the old old arsenal and maybe Mourinho’s first chelsea side came close, but this chelsea side is about there.
then you look at their strikers, and they dont have a bad midfield either and I can quite easily see them winning the PL at a canter. we lost to the champions today.
Arsenal need to think about how we can get into second place and win a cup (probably means avoiding chelsea all season!).
Pedro Says:
November 29, 2009 at 20:55
Supergunner, Diaby has virtually no physical presence. He is just tall… the same goes for Bendtner and RvP… they’re hardly in Drogba’s league are they?
Not that RvP needs to be…
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Thats what is so annoying, NOT everyone can be as strong as Drogba.
In essence we play 4-2-3-1 and when had a decent run, the 2 in that formations were Song(6ft), Diaby(6ft 2) thus it gives height balance and tactical option if the strikers are struggling aerially. Watch the games closely when goal-kicks are taken AW sometimes uses Diaby to do the flick-ons
Chelsea did not dominate the midfield until late in the game, when the 3rd goal came.
They have more drive, but we definitely dominated midfield, as any team will if they play this style of football.
Problem was that we didn’t create and thats a worry. The 3 conceded goals don’t worry me, at all actually. They were all a bit flukey. I doubt Drogba meant to score his first goal the way he did. The OG hit post/bar as well.
Wenger is right, everything went for them, but that is no excuse. We must work for our luck.
Song had a great game and I hope he’s not injured.
Diaby in the air…..god help us..
And credit to Chelsea. That was the most passionate, hard-working, and effective defensive display I have seen for a long, long time. Arsenal’s famous back 4 quality right there.
Ashley Cole is world class and he’s an Arsenal lad. If we weren’t stingy fucks he might have still been playing for us. Love him or hate him, he destroyed us.
Zeus/ Agree, god finicher but holds the bal way to long and aint god enough against the top teams.
Pat come on Drogba’s finish for first was world class plus a great cross from cole…lets not delude ourselves…
colonel mustard Says:
November 29, 2009 at 20:56
Supergooner quote ” Colonel Mustard, You have just shown me you know nothing about tactics, look at teams who sit on the edge of their box to defend and break at speed [Current Man Ure team, Invincible team, Villa], they have lots of height in defence which our defence dont. We can use that tactic if we have right type of players”
riddle me this batman…
Question 1. Why was Ashley Cole allowed free reign down his wing?
Quesion 2. Why lump pointless balls into the box?
Question 3. Why leave the Chelsea midfield free reign? Lampard and Essien dominated with ease.
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Q1. Like i said before AW didnt play Theo even though he would have given us more cutting edge from the start but didnt bcuz SN can track runners better however SN didnt do his job offensively and defensively.
Q2. I agree what we should have done more is shooting from outside the box to drag the defence out which them creates the option for ball over-the-top for forward runners.
Q3. I think in patches yes they but only really towards the end did the dominates, in terms of approach-play we played well but in both boxes we lost it.
Hope that helps u
we got Stoke at home next and then Liverpool away!
I agree that Nasri is not really finding a niche in this team. he didn’t push cole back at all. Theo, while his final ball was poor, look at the effect on cole. He simply would not go forward for fear of the pacey counter attack.
Hindsight is always easy but had theo started you wouldn’t have seen cole creating those 2 goals.
I would probably try and keep song and cesc in the middle and add Rosicky rather than Den or Nasri. Then go with Theo on the right, Vela or Arsh on the left and either Vela or Bendtner (when fit) as centre forward. I see that as our strongest team right now.
I cant blame the likes of Nasri, Arshvin or Rosicky. Its not their fault they are small. They are excellent players but need some beef alongside them to excel.
Its the managers job to create a balanced team & balanced squad. We have too many similar type players of similar stature. This is where we are (or rather Wenger) is going wrong. Its so obvious. Is there no one else at AFC who can see this? Even our defenders are tiny.
We could do with a couple of modern day David Rocastle, Michael Thomas, Patrick Viera, Manu Petit, Paul Davis, or even Ray Palour.
We don’t look good up front anymore which is a worry.
Sunderland
Liege
Chelsea
In all these games, we haven’t been as fluid. Sunderland was such an important game…
We miss Bendtner!!!!!!!!!!
Eduardo is not the answer yet!
Walcott is a CF!!
And Arshavin is a lazy stupid facker!!!!!
People don’t see how good bendtner is.
And give vela the time. I see in a lot of forums that he is no arsenal quality and that he must sold.
Guys, give him the time.
And one thing, I will see wilshere instead of one of the strikers we have now. He is a player who can make the difference, what about this guys???
almunia(please wenger buy another GK)
eboue,gallas,vermealen,gibbs
nasri,song,fabregas
wilshere,bendtner,arshavin( he can have his moment)
Notices that nobodey in here is saying anything about AA! Thaught he was crap, considerd that he(by some) are rated as one of the best in the world.
Pedro did you have trouble getting a hot drink in club level today? By the way i may have two spare Club level for Stoke if you have any takers.
@ Gazzup
I tried to make a comment on that but my computer wouldn’t let me. Spot on on Chelsea’s defending. Even great Italian teams would be proud of what they produced today. Just raw desire to not give an inch.
@ Pat
They were shit offensively but they scored 3 goals. And thats the difference. They were not great but they still gave us our 2nd worst defeat in the PL. When we don’t click I can hardly say we will win.
And ones agains I think the positive way. The future!!!!
szensy
eastmond-bartley-vermealen-gibbs
ramsey-song(coquelin)merida
wilshere-bendtner-vela
No matter what you guys tell me, I will not believe that Drogba meant to put that ball in the top corner for the 1st goal.
Its easier to just tap it in really, either side. In my eyes, he shanked it a bit and it fortunately for Chelsea, it went in. Why the hell would a striker attempt to pull that off when its much harder than just tapping it in?
its not necessarily how good Nik is, its more how important he is. same as Song. not the most talented player in the world but Arsenal dont need 11 tiny tricky mega talented players. all teams need a balance between big and small, defensive and offensive.
Arsenal currently are too samey all over the pitch. we miss Bendtner massively purely because he offers something different.
I recommend anyone to watch the Final Word bit on Sky about Arsenal. Andy Gray showed exactly why Cole was able to get those 2 crosses in unopposed.
It had nothing to do with needing ‘beef’. Arsh was at fault for the first one and Nasri the second. they both got sucked into situations that weren’t their business when they should have been marking Cole. If they position themselves right, cole simply cannot get the ball. its schoolboy stuff really.
Pat, he looked to play it across goal… it doesn’t matter how it went in…
Yes, AA has had a lethargic mood about him for some months now, but we can’t talk about it because it will only re-enforce Wenger’s belief that if you spend a lot on a player and he doesn’t quite deliver then you look like a twat. The risk is too gr8.
Now more than ever we need him to buy we can’t allow that thought to cross his senile mind.
Zeus we are competing with them for second place. So far this season, we look to be neck and neck, not them performing better.
Paul, Geoff and I didn’t attend today’s game.
I’ll see what I can do for you on the Stoke game!
Swed, no ones mentioned him because he was literally that anonymous!
Vela looks class every time he comes on. He didn’t contribute much, but there is something about him. He doesn’t seem fazed at all. Much better than Eduardo imo.
Bendtner is great for Denmark as CF. I don’t see why he won’t be a success for us.
Dutchman Says:
November 29, 2009 at 21:14
And ones agains I think the positive way. The future!!!!
szensy
eastmond-bartley-vermealen-gibbs
ramsey-song(coquelin)merida
wilshere-bendtner-vela
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Yeah I think Bartley might play bcuz Senderos might be injured bcuz i havent seen him on the bench recently but i dont think TV will play, it will probably be Silvestre
Pedro as it was the coldest match so far they removed the free hot drinks and put them behind the bar
Pedro/ and that´s not acceptable in thes kind of games if you are Arsenals most experienced forward!
Are realy disapointed at Nasris and AA:s preformances this weak.
Was the money on AA well spent? I’m sure Wenger has that in the back of his mind as pressure will rise for him to buy in January
I don’t see how anyone who was at the game could claim we were dominated in midfield because we just weren’t.
We play 433 when we have the ball and 451 when we don’t, our problem was that our two wide players were not getting back often enough and it left Sagna in particular exposed.
They had better defenders especially at centre back and a better centre forward, i’ll give you that all day but not central midfield, we were not dominated there.
I dont want wenger to buy any more players like Arsahvin. I dont care how close they are to being the best in the world. we need to buy some big hard working players to compete with the chelsea’s of this world. chelsea are on another level to everyone else defensively speaking. and throughout history the best defence generally wins the trophies.
players like lansbury would never ever have let cole get in that easy today. these are young players at Arsenal that are willing to put a shift in defensively (thanks to Bouldy?). there are a few coming through that could be important additions to our team.
Puyol was an absolute beast for Barcelona today. I wish we had players who actually love the club.
Pat:the reason A. Cole had a good game was because that hair brain nutter Sanga was galloping down the wing every two seconds like See The Stars only for wanting to cross the ball to 4ft midgets.
We played with two wide-ish men who never got the ball wide because they were tucked inside where Lumpard Essien and rest were lying in wait. A stoopid tactic that probably is not even a real tactic as Wenger believes all we need to do to win the game is pass and move.
Super: What decent run, are we a top 4 side looking to win the thing or not? A decent run includes winning in the tougher games.
agree with the sagna comment, its now at the stage where I prefer Eboue at right back. Sagna has been poor for 18 months in reality.
Pat that is a great point, when these kids eventually come through like Puyol did they will have that love for the club…Also it helps when you’re winning trophies.
Baxter wall/ And Clichy on the other flank is playing like a headles chiken in 90% of the games.
Diaby gives physical balance to the opposition teams,like the one against Manures.What a shame,we have a couple of wankers, who would never get selected to any top four team apart from us,in Europe.
Atleast We’ll Be First On Match Of The Day Today……..
Let No One Write Us Off Yet,There’s Still More Than 90 Points Up For Grab,Anything Can Happen.There@s Definately A Time Chelsea Will Have A Bad Run,We Have To Make Sure We Capitalize On That.
Puyol is Catalan…..big difference….these kids are not born and bred in London…
Well what a fucker that was. Too nervous and panicky around the box again, as we are always are against the top sides.
Is anyone in this team good enough…..lol
we need a night to sleep on it. This post mortem is going over board. Soon Fab4 will classed as ‘not good enough’
I don’t believe Chelsea will have a bad run. A bad odd game maybe but not a run. They’re the Champions elect, the rest of us are playing for second place and I think we’re probably good enough for 2nd or 3rd.
We’re better than last season. Sadly so are Chelsea and they were already better than us then.
Paulinho/ Think that a lot has to do with unsecurity of Al…
Where are the AKBs A and Mayank?They would be rehearsing the lines to blame the referees for tomorrows post.
Swed, I meant more in an offensive sense; we panick around the box and pass it off too quickly when we should relax and be more individual. It’s clear the players have a mental block against Chelsea and think their defenders are invincible, when in fact they’re not, if only we just went for it more.
Jag; A will still claim John Terry is shit and has no technnique etc.
What is obvious is that for all of Wenger’s talk of belief this team has none when it is up against it and that the truth.
never has Van persie been missed more….he loves playing against them….f**kin dutch and pointless friendlies..
Paulinho/ Ok, Maybe we cant blame Al for that:-)
I think that we belive that our players are invinceble because we can beat Blackburn at home. BUT in reality they are´nt, when they met god defenders we al se that clearly!
Paulinho nail on head mate. It is why I and others advocated getting in a worldy striker. But all we got is Eduardo this Eduardo that. I have seen enough of to judge that he is not good enough to play in a Champions League team. I will be shocked if he scores more than 8 league goals this season or any other for that matter.
AA needs players who are on the same wave length or even same pitch. That’s quick decisive and efficient one, two touch point and shoot type offensive football the very type of football Wenger tutors but unfortunately we don’t have the Personnel.
What a load of crap that was.
Anyone see Huntelaar’s 2 goals in added time? Milan won 2-0 away. First was a nice finish and 2nd was world class.
I think this will kick start his Milan career.
i feel its was pretty clear we were missing a target man and yes i have to say i was very disapointed with performances of edwardo aa and nasri,vela has a long way to go bcause f the lack phsycal presence meant it was very all on the deck no airial attacks could have done brentna,i feel this teams defence is not bad but as a team the mentality is to svore than opsition but chelsea defence was scary 8 goals for season so far.i see nothing wroung with our centre backs but a team they dont defend well enough
I think not. Hunter is beyond over-rated. Real madrid bought him because of panic buying after realizing horse face would miss the entire season and Milan bought him because he had a big-ish name and they needed to appeasee the fans after the sale of Kaka and the failures of landing Dzeko and Fabiano.
I just wish Wenger saw how Utd approached Chelsea. Shut down the fullbacks and you shut down the team, simple. They’re not technically good enough to go through the middle, especially when its crowded.
After the Chelsea-Utd game, thats the first thing I said and for some reason, we didn’t set out to stop this.
2 goals before HT were crucial and it was game over then
Huntelaar had a very respectable scoring record with madrid, when he almost never started.
He had a good game today and the 2nd goal was Marco Van Basten-esque
And after all, Huntelaar is a confidence player
I have to say that Almunia is absolutely crap. I reckon my mum could do better than that prick.
This is AWs response
On possibly buying players in January…
“I believe I would rather have all of our players back. I am not in a mood tonight to say straight away after the game that I would buy players. We have to deal with the disappointment, and respond to that massive disappointment we had today and try to win our next game. It’s as simple as that.”
In other words he’ll buy fuck all.
Hit the nail on the head AA23
Just listened to Arsene’s full press conf on ArseTV…he was asked a question about Carling Cup and he just dismissed it a not a priority and the kids will play. I am afraid we might as well get used to winning nothing with that attitude, while I agree with playing kids in early rounds and home matches I think the first team need to win a trophy or they will never taste it and want it.
He was also asked if this season mirrors last and he just kept saying we can’t change peoples minds about us.
I DON’T GET IT ANYMORE!!!!
Pat, got a clip of his goals? Its about time he scored for them too. Its been more than 3 months after all.
Wenger is probably just not in a mood to argue about anything. Todays match was just depressing.
I would rather have all the players back…for 1 game before 13 of them get injured again… I would like to see that for another 2 years, then I’ll leave.
- Wenger
Femster
Everyone today has being saying we “we lack winners”. Maybe if we picked a decent team for the cc and actually won a trophy for a change, it might help us to win the epl and cl in years to come.
how do we feel about getting kicked out of the CC next Wednesday?
same old Wenger, same old crap
humiliation after humiliation
does this man have no pride?????????
Paul,
I totally agree, I am sick of getting to November getting knocked out of CC, being 11 points behind and then having nothing to play for. Don’t the club get it we don’t wanna get to Nov and not wanna watch MOTD anymore its not fair.
Also is it a coincidence that France are wack and 2 of their back 4 play for Arsenal…Just a thought!
Yes I have pride
- Wenger
Yes, France are wack
-Wenger
Agree, I even got excited about winning the emirates cup. That’s as good as it gets now, pathetic really.
I almost bought Drogba once
-Wenger
Cracking 2nd goal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC0IxwUqlLk
sometimes if you give credit were its due and its clear chelsea take pride in the fact they can keep a clean sheet and in this game they were extremly impressive we hardly had 1 shot goal,gallas and vern were pretty good but sagna was pretty poor today but realy its not an indivual thing as a team this team is that bad defensively but chelsea are alot better.and when i look chelsea defence they will drop a few points but not that many,but today players like aa edwardo nasri were very very disapointing particualy edwrado and aa and big problem i have is if manu can handle being without huge players like rinando and tevez why cant we handle being without rvp when you are without a big player like that you fight alot more to keep clean sheet i dont see that in this team both manu and chelsea but not this team.the team is not bad but improvements are needed are target man is realy needed could have with brentna,but they need to fight more for the clean sheet because i know we can defend well if they wont to
After today, anyone deluded enough to think we can win the league?
It was all over hyped media bollocks… We laugh at scousers/yids, but we’ve lost 4 games this season. 2 of those games against title rivals….
We simply are not good enough.
The second half today we played the way Chelsea wanted us to. We couldn’t break them down.
Other point being, WE ARE A FUCKING HOME TEAM AND WE’RE PLAYING WITH 5 IN MIDFIELD!
So frustrating.
We turned over a shit Belgian side during the week after a dismal performance against Sunderland…
How long do we put up with “A DEVELOPING YOUNG SIDE?”
Unfortunately the Chelski fans got it right… 5 years and we’ve won fuck all.
Bollocks to all this buying forwards etc its been said many times that in the tight games against top drawer defences we need to rely on our own defence. Sagna and Clichy are not good enough but that cunt in goal is a disgrace.
I done myself to death on the so called keeper over the past few years and Stonroy pulled a stat I have been asking the Coco lovers to give. Shots on target to goals conceded. Do the 2 shots that hit the post and bar in midweek get addded to the list.
Strikers pull the trigger on him because they know how easy it is to score and our defenders score own goals because they are nervous with the twat in goal.
Arsene get a fucking keeper in January any fucking keeper bar Fat bollocks Robinson. Anyone will be better than this awful Spanish fucking Tapas bar waiter Coco the fucking clown cunt. At least mannone is still only young, this prick is 32 years of age and never has been any good.
FFS we could have even been Euro Champions if it were not for this cunt doing Bambi impressions.
If Arsene really thinks he is world class then Arsene certainly doesn’t know. I played with and against better than him many years ago on the Marshes.
Arsenal don’t do getting thrashed and in recent years we have had many embarrasing beatings.
End of the season? I think so. Wenger is always going to try and out play in football with other teams. Like a lot of everyone was saying when you leak goals easy at the back it can always cause you problems. Out goes Vp for ever and no replacements that can play football you stop scoring goals. Critical time for Aw now, is he going to shut down the midfield and play Denilson and Song in midfield? Will Vela and Theo live up to what they are paid for and come through? And we still haven’t had an injury at the back. Bad times Gooners.
Two final words on todays game “TOTAL HUMILIATION”
cheers !!!!!!!!
Its groundhog day, again
Hate these people who knock the Hunter who probably have never seen him play. The guy scores goals and since football began thats how you win matches.
Bobby Wilson,Jimmy Rimmer,Johnny Lukic,David Seaman, Mad Jens Lehman. Must be chuckling watching the imposter masquerading as a goalkeeper.
Sack Gerry Payton too as his coaching is pathetic.
Lets have Seaman train the keepers with Keown Bouldy and DB10 added to coaching the 1st team. I bet they will smaten up very quickly.
lol the over reaction on here when we lose really is laughable. The total lack of perspective is amazing, it’s embarrassing to be a gooner when looking at fellow arsenal fans at times!
Today was shit, but not the end of the world, it wasn’t total humiliation, it didn’t show us to not be good enough, it was a shit loss, that’s it, if we’ve made up two points between now and the end of February we’ll win the league at a canter
El Tel Huntelaar isn’t nearly good enough for us, not in a million years, awesome in a shite league, crap in a good league.
A you are talking bullshit how can you say that wasnt humiliating?
Huntelaar was amazing in Holland, shite in Spain (don’t let the goals/game stats fool you, ask any Madrid fan, or anyone who follows the Spanish League closely, or even just go and look at how he did with more detail, and you’ll see he really was pants there, and he’s been shocking at Milan, so crap in fact that Boriello is chosen over him!
The scoreline is humiliating reggie, that’s the only thing that is
El Tel you were obviously working there in the rain, mate that was a lot of crap dished up to the fans by The Club. & you are right, The Spanish waiter must go.
Ill see you are wearing AWs glasses again cant you see that the fans are well and truly fucked off. LOL
Fabianski is number one now fit anyways, he’ll have till the new year at least to show he’s ready. He’ll start against City, then take the number one shirt against Stoke at home, and go from there. I have alot of belief in him, he’s very ready now and will make us alot stronger
i realy dont agree with comments taht arsenal were not in the title race we had an out side chance of winning it we need a plan b attack sometimes and both brentna and rvp could provide because of the phsycal presence can be used target man aa,edwrado, vela,theo are supporting strikers,a good defence always beats a good ofence no matter what sport and pretty clear clean sheets is not that importantt just as long as you score more goals and that very bad thing and any ambition of winning prem now or in the future it is vital they change that and fight more for the clean sheet
A
That Chelsea team is good enough to win The League, the CL, the FA Cup, & Carling Cup. That Arsenal performance won’t win even sympathy from me. The squad has been shown up over the last 2 fixtures as being lightweight & not up to winning a thing.
We have as much chance of winning the league as the tiny totts!!
yeah I can see that reggie, i’m very fucked off too! But not with wenger, or anyone at the club. I have the ability to control and objectively rationalise things, rather than just lash out when things go bad and lose control of my emotions, as so many seem to be unable to do!
We lost, everyone feels shit about it, the fans, the players, the managers, the coaching staff, but to take it out by being pissed off with any of the above and blaming people is just stupid imo
Whos to blame then A???
gnarley we’ll see. The last two games we havn’t created much, and they are a worry, but they’re just two games! If we get back the creativity and the way we created chances before the last two games, or even more so with Nasri, Rosicky, Theo, Vela back, then we’ll be in a very good position too. Chelsea have struggled to create chances and break down teams in more games than we have this season, and people are going very over the top with their praise and how highly they rate them imo
Chelski did their job and we didn’t.
Simple really and the excuse we didn’t have RVP, we’re a young developing side etc really doesn’t cut it anymore.
We lost to a better team, so what?
Keep on going till the end of the season and let’s see where it takes us.
Noone Reggie, sometimes you just lose games! It happens to everyone, but our blame culture means that if something doesn’t go according to plan we MUST blame someone, it MUST be someone’s fault
A;They did beat us 3-0 at home or am i dreaming!!
Ok then A lets continue to lose games and say its hard cheese then
If Chelsea win every game between now and the end of the season then I’ll start to think they’re the real deal. Up to now they’ve had two ridiculously lucky wins with a 95th minute Malouda winner, and a 93rd minute Drogba fluke cross, and lost to Villa and Wigan, looking shite in both games. They’re far from another level, just because they’ve played well for 3 or 4 matches
They looked the real deal today?
sorry, i meant now and the end of the year, not the end of the season!
As Robbie Earle said @ 0-2 down. Chelsea can play badly & still win. The Arsenal can play well & still lose.There is no doubt that the passing of The Arsenal was superior, but “results” is the yardstick IMO.
reggie big games are not where the league is won and lost.
They won 3-0 today, a terrible scoreline, they didn’t even create 3 clear goalscoring chances though, it wasn’t like they cut us to shreds, and it wasn’t like we didn’t have exactly the same chances! We just didn’t take ours, and they did, and we didn’t defend ours, and they did. The overall balance of the game we were far from well beaten, though it was comfortable in the end.
How many other teams have come to the emirates and dished out a 4-1 3-0 drubbing in consective games apart from the chavs!!
How many fuck ups did Eduardo have today. Unforgivable!
a your missing the point chelsea can score an early goal and know can hold onto that lead but this team would find it very difficult to that,this team need to defend as a team alot better,you cant keep going on the premise that you can out score your opision
I don’t blame Lehmann for his antics regarding Almunia. Almunia is a clown. Lost us the CL as well the cunt.
Chelsea will lose their flow. If not before the ACN, then definitely during it and after it.
IL leave it as that then just going round in circles cant blame anyone,no ones fault, chavs never had more than 3 clear cut chances!! good night!!
Some of us are deluding ourselves into thinking that we are still in with a chance after today. Instead of looking at Chelsea and wondering when they will drop points lets look at ourselves to next week when we face Hull city.
We are the most free-scoring team in the league so far this season and we couldn’t muster one goal today AT HOME. That is very telling and it doesn’t matter how many excuses we can cough up. Almunia this, van Persie that, Bendtner this, Song that, we were expertly contained on home turf and in truth rarely looked like scoring.
reggie
good night??? it was a absolutely horrid night/morning
But what is the worry is that nothing will change. & that is so frustrating.
well the masterplan has been exposed again.
wengers squad selection shown up again against a title contender , simply fucking clueless.
The seven dwarfs v men ,
what a joke, people that defend walcott, denilson,nasri, ,rosciky are dilusional
They are not good enough and worst for me in a derby game today, showed no fight for the cause , i can take it when players have a bad game but to play with no fight in a game like this is not acceptable .
the only good thing they did was give a days pay to gosh, now what they should do is give the rest of the kings ransom they earn to all the fans who paid today to watch this shower of shit play today,
and theo dont worry son, maybe you can stow away in shreks suitcase and get to south africa cause you wont get a sniff playing like you have been .
anD JUST TO BE CONSISTENT THE CLOWN IN GOAL REMINDS US HOW FUCKING SHIT HE REALLY IS.
fucking hell i remember seeing jennings,lukic, seaman ,in goal even the mad german had a consistency about him .
Nah gnarley i meant im turning in for the night mate !!
I guess we are all into stats in some form or another. Me? The stat that I enjoy the most is position on the table, & if The Arsenal don’t sit on top of the other 19 team names, then to me I see that there is something wrong that needs to be fixed. Its simple really
Even if Bendtner had been fit I have no doubt that our manager would have played him on the wing!
Wenger….
On possibly buying players in January…
“I believe I would rather have all of our players back. I am not in a mood tonight to say straight away after the game that I would buy players. We have to deal with the disappointment, and respond to that massive disappointment we had today and try to win our next game. It’s as simple as that.”
Yep I know reggie
have a good one, see you later.
wellI can Help Geoff and pedro with the ratings
here we go from 1- 11
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and lets celebrate the return of crab football.
2 shots on target in 90 minutes
awesome boys.
the only way foward is a takeover and real investment ,
zeus
For Le gaffer to say that, after his pre match description of the team, it means to me that he is either not hurting enough; deluded to the point that he still sees that The Arsenal were duped by the ref; or is so outa touch its time to step aside. Unless he buys big time, it will continue to be as it has been for 5 years going on 6.
I’m a glass is half full type of person, but chelski just knocked my glass over
a i know chelsea will drop points but can realy this team winnig every game now till the end of the season chelsea will drop points but we will also drop points
Yeah we need to be more direct…..too much sideways mentality….
The thing is though its all about matchups…..Chelsea just let us have the ball..soak up pressure and then wait for us to make a mistake….
Manure used that tactic against Chelsea and it almost worked….its not about being better etc…its about tactics…
We know that teams use this tactic against us..therefore we have to be more direct and clinical and let them pay for sitting back….
But we dont do that…..so teams just soak up our weak pathetic pressure and just wait for a mental lapse from us..
If only we could score in the first 10-15 mins then it would force them to come out and play….
Wenger needs to stop playing playmakers like Nasri and ROsicky on the wing….we need players like Vela Theo etc on the wing from the fucking start..
Wehn Nasri gets the ball on the wing..instead of driving towrds the byline/box..he slows down and waits for triangles…we saw this last season and Wenger still fucking puts him on the wing…nAsri and Rosick need to be in the fucking centre with Cesc with Song or Den behind them
his retoric is frankly embarrising
he cannot think that we fall for all his bollocks
frankly it doesnt matter where walcott, and nasri plays they are not strong or good enough .
Lets have some perspective shall we, it was one game, one result. If we’d won we would’ve been 2 points behind Chelsea after our game in hand, now we’re 8. It isn’t great but it’s far from over!
The way I look at things we should expect to win every home game, and lose against the top 4 and City, but win every other away game.
That’s how you get rid of the way that fixture organisation is misleading. By my reckoning we’re level on points with Utd, 5 behind Chelsea.
We’ve dropped 8 points they’d expect to win, Utd have dropped 8 points they’d expect to win, Chelsea have dropped 3 points they’d expect to win (6 but the win against us is an away game against the top 4 so would expect to lose)
If we beat them at Stamford Bridge we’ve evened it all out, and we’re one point ahead of them, if everything else goes as one would expect it to….
leon i dunno, before sunderland i really thought we’d create so many chances against the smaller teams that we wouldn’t drop anything like as many points as the others against those down the bottom of the table. The next few weeks will tell whether that’s still the case, or without vp we can’t function in the same way
lol mcmahon nasri is absolute class, he looks quality this season, and was probably our best player today imo.
@A i think its time us gunners have to get real.We were given a real lesson by a team that are streets ahead of us in every department.We had not one real chance in the whole match that’s a worry.We need at least 3 world class players and hopefully a new manager next season
replacing wenger would be a tragedy imo. the board only gives a low transfert budget. only wenger keep us chalengers in such a situation
I hear some people blaming Song Denilson etc….but it was the attackers and the defenders(especially Almunia and Sagna) that let us down…
We just dont know how to defend as a team…
Our attackers took too fucking long to make up their minds on what they needed to do..
Arshy had a gaping goal..and instead of hitting it first time..he dillied and dallied and his shot was blocked..
A,
Based on your comments it seems as if you (and Mr. Wenger) tend to rely on your intellect to rationalize the poor display of Arsenal today..or any day The Arsenal lose a match; seems a bit naive, even disengenuous (sp). I may be wrong but I don’t believe for one minute that football players are in agrement with your position that says essentially: “Hey it was a loss, no worries, just gonna do better next week. G’night boys!”. The opinions on this blog today reflect the opinions ON THE DAY..it is important to keep a perspective as you would say/write; it is also important to accept that perspective is no substitute for what appears before us: mediocrity.
Eduardo was the weak link for me today. He’s been fairly useless for the last couple of games. Vela has been poor when he has come on as well, always slowing down play and losing opportunities by trying to get the ball on hsi left foot! What also stood out today is how none of our players can cross well. Defensively and when attacking we’re pretty bad at set plays. As musch as we miss Van Persie I don’t think he would have made a big enough difference today. We’ve had 3 crunch matches, Man U, man city and chelsea, and we’ve lost them all!
A has always been a bit delusional about the potential this season of this team !..
he is a virtual wenger pull string doll
however i said Saturday drogba / anelka will be the difference …when things get tight .
)
(i suppose thats just another thing im wrong about A
A STRIKER OR 2 is needed ! A_S_A_P !
A, loves dudu and thinks he is the most clinical striker in the EPL ! blah blah …
yes, .. well we saw that yesterday …
i said dudu has largely been untested by us .
coming back from injury also, and i think its unfair to heap the blame on him ..
‘wenger’, went into this season just like every other…. under-maned , and hoping for 2 or 3 stars to be born prior to the December transfer window .
we still have a long way to go to roll the likes of the chev’s and manc’s at their home grounds with regularity .
then , ONLY then!, should we start bragging we are BETTER than them ! , any other talk is just PURE DELUSIONAL RANTING !
and ive had to bare witness to listening half a season already on how fucking great we are !
hopefully some of the pricks who said i was a doom monger can now work out for themselves i was RIGHT all along !
Eddy needs a partner from now we should play like this
…………………..Song/Denilson………………….
….Cesc/Rosick………………………….Nasri/Diaby…
..Theo/Vela…………….RVP/Bendy/New………Arshy/Eddy…
We should play either Arshavin or Vela as CF until Bendy returns….
Eddy has played better on the wing…
Ethan I asked you to predict todays game and you said
“we could win with the home advantage, then again chelsea are good so we could lose, or it might be a draw.”
What vision.
There are a lot of pricks on here, I should know because I’m one of them.
But you are the biggest of all.
IN
De Rossi/Toulalan
Dzeko/Pdolski/clinical strong forward
CB taller than gallas.
It amazes me that our back 4 are so good individually yet we have performances like that. Perhaps that says something about our style…?
Ethan always brags about what he gets right, but more often than not he gets everything wrong and never mentions it again.
Before today’s game, Ancelotti said he was happy Flamini and Hleb weren’t at Arsenal anymore. They’re obviously both better than what we have right now. Hleb might have not scored goals, but he was consistent and always caused problems. Something nasri and Arshavin could only dream of doing.
Some writer in the Mirror thinks Arsenal would do well to land Amr Zaki
Hey Pat Wenger needs to stop playing Nasri and Rosicky on the wings…
Remember last season even though we all rate Nasri…we could see that on the wing he was frustrating because he never varies his approach he always cuts in from the left..
and even when he was on the right today he sill never took the defender on….he always looked for the easier option.
He and rosick need to be in the fucking centre…
Wenger should play only fast direct players on the wing…i.e. vela Walcott Arshy and to a lesser extent Eddy since he cant manage the CF role…
We need to play like this til Bendy and RVP come back
……………………..Song/Den……………………..
…Cesc/Ramsey………………………Rosick/Nasri…….
…………………..Nasri/Arshy……………………..
………………………………..Eddy/Arshy…………
……………….Theo/Vela………………………….
Rosick and Nas should be driving from the midfield instead of dilly dallying on the flanks…..
Let Eddy or Ashy be the support striker and let the speed demons Theo/Vela stay up front…
Pat, its that tosser Collymore that says we should get Zaki.
Fucking Bellend.
I think there’s a good chance we’ll see David Villa in january.
Man United will sign sign him.
AA23 i said draw AT BEST !
oh how fast and conveniently you forget !
but its not that , i was saying based on everyone’s hot air we should win this at home no problems ..
not sure how you change a draw at best into me expecting 3 points ..
and i aint no prick ! im just realistic with a realistic eye for football !
we need someone who is better than drogba or torres , until we get someone who can swing a tight game like that our way we will always be 2nd best ..
hence a striker is needed !
always has …
and this game , like sunderland have hi-lighted
it !
also good save by big Al , the one handed save.
shame you let 3 others in !
This team reminds me of the “Brazillian team of the 1980′s” no genuine striker
great midfield options such as zico socrates falcao naive at back we have all the attributes of that side and no signs that we will win something this year .We have lost to Manchester United Manchester City and Chelsea playing similiarly . We may again drop points against Liverpool.
We need a Rooney A Torres A Drogba
at front efficient strikers who bully defenders i doubt if we have anyone like including Rvp
we were at our best when we had ADEBAYOR(i hate him though) EDUARDO and flamster in the middle yesterday there was no one in the middle to conect to our crosses.
SIGN CARLTON COLE or make it 6 7 8 9 years without a trophy
defender Puyol who took the plaudits after a heroic display.
The 31-year-old made superb last-ditch blocks to deny Marcelo, Gonzalo Higuain and Karim Benzema, and Guardiola told Marca: “He was relentless. It seems like he is still 20 years old.”
home grown players
Zaki is a very good striker.
I hope we go in for Gignac. Simpson says he feels he can score regularly in the premier league. has anyone been watching him at QPR? Is he actually playing well? I know he’s scoring, but that doesn’t tell the whole story
I’m not one for playing manager but here goes; In Dzeko, Sakho,Lloris (much preferred Frey), and how about we promote 6 foot 2 Nacer Barazite. He must be more consistent than Diaby.And Diaby’s height is the only thing keeping him around.
Barazite is injured ZeuS! for the rest of the season it seems !
we need to revert to 4-4-2 pronto whilst RVP is out and get to January and then sort it out in the market !
kush
Benzema would be a good fit for wenger and the french connection ..
likewise my old favorite pipe dream david villa ,
fuck me with all the money wengers saved over the years surely with the help of ade’s/toures cash we could get someone for about 20+ mil who is reliable enough to convert games !
it still boils down to FAITH ! .. fuck that ..
wenger the truth is they are not that good .
and even if they are you go to great lengths to stunt them if they are (theo- vela- jack etc.)
the average players like diaby – eboue-song-denilson-senderos-big al all need to ship off, and be replaced with world beaters .Then we would measure up to the likes of the chev’s and barca , and that is what is needed if you are to be number 1 !
else be happy playing pretty football minus a spine and a clinical edge ..