I’m not sure if I’m lacking in enthusiasm or my stream was too poor… because I have nothing in the locker for this post.
The team laid out avoided most of the marmite temptations Wenger usually indulges in and I thought it looked like a side more than capable of dishing out a spanking.
How wrong was I?
The game was a cagey affair, with most of it spent in midfield. Sunderland did a brilliant job of nullifying the threat we posed, leaving long shots as the main goal threat. Arsenal never really got any fluency going with their passing and whilst no one had a particularly bad game, too many of our starting 11 stayed firmly in 2nd gear at about 2000rpm (Low revs is what I’m saying guys…).
I thought Song played pretty well, industrious and creative with his passing. He powered through the Sunderland midfield linking up nicely with Eduardo, who scooped wide. Some claimed Song should have finished it, I’d say the man is a holding midfielder and he was never going to finish.
Ramsey didn’t play particularly well. When he comes off the bench he looks like a terrier, when he starts, he sometimes fades into the back ground a little. I must confess, I wasn’t aware he was playing until about 20 minutes in.
Arsenal left themselves exposed on countless occasions and if it wasn’t for the poor finishing of Marlbranque, we could have been a couple down after the first half. Isn’t it odd how pleased we all are with Gallas-Vermaelen, yet we’ve shipped record goals this season?
Sunderland made it to half time and that was a worry.
The second half didn’t see much of an improvement from the Arsenal boys. The Black Cats created chances as did Arsenal, this was going to be decided by one goal and sadly it fell to Sunderland. A corner was whipped in, it fell to the back post where Frazier Campbell went unchallenged by Rosicky, he cut it back and who else was going to be there waiting to bundle it into the net? Darren fucking Bent… jeez…
A real sloppy goal for Arsenal to concede.
We kicked into 3rd gear after the goal but it was too little too late. Arshavin, Vela and Walcott tried to change the game, but they failed to make an impact.
Arsenal stumbled to defeat in the North in a flat, disappointing manner. Once again, the victims of the International Football curse.
I guess the only silver lining I can provide right now is we have an abundance of choice if changes are to be made in the next game. Arshavin, Theo and Vela will all be hungry to impress and if Wenger doesn’t fancy those three, well, we could always put Eboue and Denilson in there to strengthen things up!
I hope this is a lesson in focus. If you want to win the league, you have to be one your game, every game. The Premiership is too strong to take teams lightly. Wenger didn’t do anything wrong today, the players did. They need to dust themselves down, not let this affect them and concentrate on getting back on the victory path.
Keep the faith Grovers, we’ve got an important month come up, by the end, we’ll know what this team is made of.
Player Ratings:
Almunia: Made a couple of good saves and dealt well with the aerial threat. Had a bit of a clown moment towards the end of the half. Wasn’t to blame for the goal. 6
Sagna: Has become pivotal to our attack with his marauding runs. If he could cross it, the guy would be one of the most valuable players in the Premiership! I thought he defended well today, which is what he’s paid for. 7
Vermaelen: It’s a sorry situation when the player trying to get your attack going is your centre back. He tried the most outrageous volley from a most outrageous angle in the second half… what a goal that could have been! He reminds me of John Terry in an attacking sense. 7.5
Gallas: Booed with every touch today by the most retarded of supporters. Why do they care about the Irish? Had a solid game today, I was a bit worried about the hobble. It’s customary for Arsenal to have defensive crisis around this time of the year, so expect the worst. 7
Traore: I was so happy he was granted a start ahead of Silvestre. Too many people want to slate this lad down before he’s even had a chance. Today, I thought he played well. No hairy moments and great big dirty tackle at the end. I was impressed. 7
Song: I powerful performance in the middle of the park and nearly a goal. He doesn’t always come out with the ball, but he does enough to break up the play. His range of passing is improving by the game and his positional sense is gaining maturity. 7.5
Cesc: Plenty of long shots and creative thinking out there today, just a shame the rest of the team didn’t really work for him. 7
Rosicky: Showed some nice moves in the first half, but still a little rusty for my liking. It’s kind of how I remember him. A very good player, but rarely a game changer in my eyes. 6.5
Eduardo: Another of our new signings who failed to shine today. If he’s not scoring goals, generally he’s not doing much. We have to give him the chance to settle into the centralrole and I’m sure the goals will come… I’m just a bit worried about his overall team play. 6
Nasri: Workman like performance from a player we’re yet to see the best of. Hey, I know it might sound crazy, but I still don’t understand his role in the team… what does Nasri do that makes him a great player? I’d like to think we’ll have that answer at some point this season, but like Rosicky, he seems like he’s just there to link the play. I want more from my midfielders! 7
Rambo: Quieter than all the Spurs fans in my office at the moment. Didn’t really have much involvement in the first half bar a couple of duff shots. I rate this guy, but he didn’t do much to stake a claim today. 6
Subs:
Arshavin: Not enough time to influence the game. Actually scrap that, 30 minutes is plenty… he didn’t influence the game. 6
Vela: Came on, ran around a bit, was denied a nailed on penalty. I really hate that fat little referee… laughing an joking with the players like he’s their best mate. 6
Theo: Loves a scan this boy… Came on, didn’t hobble off. That’s a good performance in my eyes. 6
Have a great day Grovers! See you in the comments!
Le Grove is now smart phone compatible!
Pedro
Geoff
November 22, 2009 at 09:00
Morning!
November 22, 2009 at 09:00
Boom Boom!!
November 22, 2009 at 09:01
Non Happy Days
November 22, 2009 at 09:01
There it is!
November 22, 2009 at 09:02
3rd
November 22, 2009 at 09:04
What a miserable day pissing down,windy and we lost to a 2nd rate team!!
November 22, 2009 at 09:05
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November 22, 2009 at 09:05
5 comments?WTF?
November 22, 2009 at 09:07
disapointing. but international week never does us favours..
November 22, 2009 at 09:11
we’ll still win the league
November 22, 2009 at 09:12
If we dont beat Chelsea, I can see it being a fight for 3rd place. United are starting that period where they win every week.
November 22, 2009 at 09:13
As per Suga, lack of height, & robust players to force a result. Oh for a clean sheet
November 22, 2009 at 09:13
We were shit. Hopefully it’s a one-off. Roll on Liege.
November 22, 2009 at 09:13
Good write up, I totally agree with the anonymous point. Wenger made a fundamental error in this game and started Ramsey. this did not give us a goal threat. I also agree with the Eduardo point…..that’s because Eduardo needs to play off a second striker. ie. Carlos Vela.
We should go 4-4-2 in our next game, and give Eduardo a second striker, he needs one.
—————–Almunia—————-
Sagna———–Gallas————–Vermaelen—-Traore
Rosicky———-Song———————Nasri
—————-Fabregas
————————-Carlos Vela
———————-Eduardo
It’s simple, if we play Eduardo, we must give him a partnering striker. Leaving Carlos Vela on the Bench and Sending Eduardo up there with Ramsey is ineffective, I could have told Wenger that before the game.
We must play 4-4-2 against Chelsea with Vela partnering Eduardo up front or we’re wasting Eduardo.
November 22, 2009 at 09:15
Carlos we will still win the league, but not this season. Bloody hell we missed RVP & a Little Nicky
type.
November 22, 2009 at 09:18
It was another ‘bag of shite’ performance… no excuses, every other team has an international break too! Obviously the emphasis is now on the game against the Chavs.. we need to turn up and hope the team does the same!
November 22, 2009 at 09:19
Still gutted after yesterdays result sunderland were there for the taking with the spine ripped from there team, should have been a walk in the park,but for some bizzare reason we bottled it just like we did against w.ham, where were the leaders not one person stood up to them (apart from song) and there the problem lies.
No passion
No heart
Too many fancy dans
Need some steel!!
Need some bottle!!
November 22, 2009 at 09:21
God help us next week…
November 22, 2009 at 09:24
It’s a Wenger thing. He has it instilled in their psyche – it’s November, it’s an international break, we come back tired and a little short, it’s not our fault, Wenger has given us our excuse.
November 22, 2009 at 09:25
Eduardo is a big disappointment of a striker.Set up by Song beautifully, why will he not shoot but decides to give another pass when the pole is nearly empty.Van Persie a real miss and why Vela and Walcott were left so late is worrying.Vela needs to start on Tuesday or at least against chelsea.Eduardo lacks confidence…against spurs and yesterday.Too weak in searching for the ball and at times appears to be minus one.
November 22, 2009 at 09:26
morning all, so the question is would you rather have Song or Cana?
November 22, 2009 at 09:26
I’ve just sent a message to Wenger with my thoughts, here is my 4-4-2 against Chelsea:
—————–Almunia—————-
Sagna———–Gallas————–Vermaelen—-Traore
Rosicky———-Song———————Nasri
—————-Fabregas
————————-Arshavin
———————-Eduardo
We should no way play Ramsey in that role again with Eduardo, either Arshavin or Vela need to start there.
November 22, 2009 at 09:26
Didn’t watch the match but not disappointed with result given the interlull factor and team re-shuffling. But rightly mentioned tht we do have options
November 22, 2009 at 09:28
Stonroy, I’d love them both, If we need extra defensive cover for some games we could play 4-2-3-1. Can and Song battling it out for the defensive midfield sport would be great for us although I do believe Denilson will be a good deputy while Song is off in Africa.
November 22, 2009 at 09:30
Finest I agree with you mate. The two of them would be immense.
November 22, 2009 at 09:33
How did Cana fare yesterday?Did Wenger miss a trick or two not going for him?
November 22, 2009 at 09:37
Jaguar, Wenger wasn’t on the market for one this summer (Song, Denilson and Diaby being his DM choices followed by academy reserves) and tried to sign Cana as a youth, but he certainly helped in helping keep a clean sheet against us and I feel he has no small part to play in Sunderland’s resurgence as a top 10 team.
November 22, 2009 at 09:40
Song bossed it yesterday. At one stage he was running midfield all by himself, Cana didn’t stand a chance.
November 22, 2009 at 09:40
Good post Pedro, was expecting it.
Jaguar, I think Cana played pretty well today, perhaps it was because he wanted to impress his rejecters. He’d have been good for us if we’d signed him.
November 22, 2009 at 09:41
I think Ramsey is well overrated
November 22, 2009 at 09:42
Wenger should have been in the market for a DM due to Denilsons limitations,Diabys injury problems and also being shit,Song off to ACN, bad planning/management if you ask me!!
November 22, 2009 at 09:42
I’m now a convert of arsene knows.i’ve been cravin for the mid that played yesterday n i now believe diaby shuld always keep his place coz rambo is still too raw
November 22, 2009 at 09:43
We should have Arshavin and Eduardo up front for a full game , I am sure that would increase our productivity.
November 22, 2009 at 09:44
Yup I reckon Diaby is much better than Ramsey, and we should have given Eduardo Vela as second striker from the start of the game.
November 22, 2009 at 09:44
Gunnersmith overated is too xtreme.
November 22, 2009 at 09:45
Song over Cana definitely.
Cana is a bruiser, all the time. We dont play that way, most of the time.
Song suits our game much better.
November 22, 2009 at 09:47
One bad game for Ramsey,and now Diaby is being hailed as the new Maradona.Ridiculous.
November 22, 2009 at 09:49
Wasn’t Ramsey’s fault Jaguar, he wasn’t suited for the game, should have been Vela. We should have walked away with at least 1-1 from that game and chalked it off as an away draw.
November 22, 2009 at 09:49
Diaby, Nasri, Ramsey in that order.
Diaby will get better, and we’ll be better for it.
November 22, 2009 at 09:49
Ramsey too raw you are having a larf a young kid who bossed a international game the other night!! too raw thats done me mate!!
November 22, 2009 at 09:51
international week is sad excuse. AGAIN didnt affect utd and chel.
eduardo, arshavin, vela, are all second strikers. thats the problem with wengers buying policy
diaby denilson song are all convertee’s to dm role. thats the problem with wengers buying policy.
too many players are too comfortable and confident of their starting positions. thats the proble with wengers buying policy
November 22, 2009 at 09:52
With Eduardo in the centre,we dont have a proper target man,as he doesnt fit into the central role in a 4-3-3.He would have done better in the right of a 4-3-3,had Vanpersie played alongside.
November 22, 2009 at 09:52
That’s what swayed Wenger Reggie but, he should have given Eduardo his second striker. Ramsey still has a long way to go, I’m looking forward to him having a blinder in the Carling cup. Ramsey is still a Carling cup player and cannot see him becoming a mainstream player this season.
November 22, 2009 at 09:55
I think ramsey not redw to start pl game though he is better then diaby
November 22, 2009 at 09:56
Finest
You cant keep playing Ramsey as a CC player or he will never reach his full potential?he,s ready now IMO just needs a run of games to bed himslf in…..
November 22, 2009 at 09:57
himself
November 22, 2009 at 09:58
Bring back DIABYYYYY!
haha.
Morning everybody.
November 22, 2009 at 09:58
Well you know that such a bedding in could cost us the title Reggie, we’re not read as a team to accomodate his mistakes, we need to give Eduardo a proper second striker and that’s Carlos Vela if Arshavin is not avail, if he need some match practice loan him out to a relegation team in Jan.
November 22, 2009 at 10:01
i’d rather merida than ramsey
November 22, 2009 at 10:04
finest
Do you still think we have got a chance of winning the title then? i dont think we will, we seem to suffer the the north of birmingham curse and until we rectify that we will be close or as AW says we will be a little short!!
November 22, 2009 at 10:12
I know we had injury problems again ( from the endless poxy internationals this season) but Ramsay was a bad choice to replace Diaby – a good performance against Scotland ( who are crap) does not show that you are ready for the premiership. Like Walcott – I still wonder will he ever be a top player or us. Also, yesterday’s match again shows ( apart from Song maybe) that we have no pysical power in the team – especially in away matches. No real height in the centre of the defence again showed our vulnerability at set pieces – that is why we are still conceding rubbish goals. Wenger should had bought another tall striker in the summer when we got rid of Adebayor – without Bendtner and RVP there is no one up front to hold the ball up and bring others into play. We have too many small skilful players being played in the wrong position. Cannot see us beating Chelsea next week who are full of confidence at the moment. The Premiership is not a 5-a- side competition.
November 22, 2009 at 10:15
Question to our directors. Are you going to man up and do something about this systematic tapping up by Barca. It’s fucking outrageous but as long as we let him it happen it’s remains the norm and clubs like Barca will continue to employ this tactic. Fucking stand up for yourselves and us! You’re employing enough executives at the mo, do any of them have a mouth?
http://www.people.co.uk/sport/football/tm_headline=messi-my-fab-vow&method=full&objectid=21840643&siteid=93463-name_page.html
November 22, 2009 at 10:18
I’d try and do some business with Sunderland which would improve the team. Put 20 million + Senderos on the table in exchange for Cana and Antone Ferdinand.
Central Defender + Defensive Midfielder problem solved.
November 22, 2009 at 10:20
Morning all..
It was a one off game… we have no breaks till march… need to start another run!
November 22, 2009 at 10:20
Anton ferdinand?
are you serious?
November 22, 2009 at 10:23
6.5 for Rosicky Pedro ? he was the worst player on the peach he and fab4
Morning all
good to be back it was long time for me here
November 22, 2009 at 10:26
I think arsh should have started.
Without him we were going back to passing the ball forever, even if he does fack all, his style is direct and he doesn’t fuck about around the box.
I thought rosicky and nasri would have taken the game by the scruff of the neck being fresh and all… but i was wrong!
November 22, 2009 at 10:26
Wenger never bought a decent, experienced striker to replace Adebayor and now the chickens are coming home to roost with RvP and Bendtner out. Was only a matter of time before RVP got injured again. You can’t win tough away games without an athletic striker to target and hold the ball up and impose a physical presence. Bringing on midgets like Arshavin and Walcott with 15 mins to go doesn’t work in winter cup tie slogs like this. Another November slump when we lose with the Chavs next weekend. We’ve lost EVERY tough away game so far this season. This squad is no better than last season.
November 22, 2009 at 10:27
Yeah, he has Premier League experience and would be a capable replacement for Senderos.
November 22, 2009 at 10:28
[quote]A real sloppy goal for Arsenal to concede.[/quote]
I dont agree Pedro the goal wasn’t sloppy at all we were just unlucky
November 22, 2009 at 10:28
I think senderos is better than anton ferdinand!
November 22, 2009 at 10:36
Another team has one shot on target and scores
unlucky i dont think so!!
November 22, 2009 at 10:42
Arsenal still need a steel approach to certain games. You can not win the legaue if you fail to beat the small and low rated teams. That is the difference between arsenal and teams like chelsea and man u. They win games even when they play badly. Arsnal must wake up, and wenger should try and buy another out and out striker, otherwise our season will be left with gloom and despair at the end of the campaign. I wish them the best.
November 22, 2009 at 10:56
If we dont win the league this year I think we would have missed a big oppurtunity
I reckon the chavs would win it then come 2010/11 Fergie would regroup and we wld probably not have any chance for a while. Just a thought
This is why many have been clamouring for a pro-active Wenger in the transfer market. Shrewdness has not exactly worked for us in the last few years.
We are still too one dimensional as a team, we still cant defend as we ought to.
Just my observations.
November 22, 2009 at 10:57
sunderland are not lowly rated, they drew with utd at OT, something we couldn’t.
they had beaten pool as well.
November 22, 2009 at 11:02
Yeah choy..but they were missing turner,jones and cattermole.And its not like we were unlucky.
November 22, 2009 at 11:03
yep… it was just a one off.. forget the result.. lets move on to the next game.
November 22, 2009 at 11:04
One point in nine before yesterdays game says otherwise choy!!
November 22, 2009 at 11:06
Glad theo and vela are available.We lack pace.Atleast one of them should start against chelsea
November 22, 2009 at 11:06
one point in nine for?
November 22, 2009 at 11:13
sorry choy 2 points
November 22, 2009 at 11:14
for the mackems
November 22, 2009 at 11:18
We are much better when we up the pace of the game. The difference is Utd or Chekski would have bombarded theur goalmouth constantly and likely scored at least an equalizer.
I guess though that its quite something that it has taken some 20 games befire we fail to score.
Sunderland deserve credit too
November 22, 2009 at 11:27
As soon as Eduardo bottled the chance to score in the first half I knew the game was over. I really don’t know what is wrong with Eduardo now.
He missed three sitters against Spurs. He also went solo against against Wolves which ended in a goal but a simple pass to Ramsey would have made it easier.
If he had taken his chance in the first half, the game would have changed. I doubt if he’s suitable to play in the RvP role or even be successful in the EPL because of his physique.
November 22, 2009 at 11:28
Both Rosicky and Nasri were poor. Nasri lacks directness to play in the front of 4:3:3
November 22, 2009 at 11:29
maturks how many games did rvp take to start scoring?
November 22, 2009 at 11:36
Bit lively on here yesterday lots of threats and insults.
November 22, 2009 at 11:43
Give Steve Bruce credit…With key players out he got the tactics spot on ,as he did against Liverpool and Man u ,the only team to turn us over and they didnt get out of 2nd gear were chelsea..Teams are now not showing to much respect to the top four and are having a go and getting results…the Premier league is changing and there are more teams capable of getting the other top positions..
November 22, 2009 at 11:46
Was a bit wasnt it Paul!! Embarassing. Any Spuds tuning in would have been cracking up. Playground stuff alright
November 22, 2009 at 11:49
I do laugh at people making threats and insults from a keyboard
November 22, 2009 at 11:56
Chelsea 13 games played, 33 points
Man United 13 games played, 28 points
Arsenal 12 games played, 25 points
All the upcoming games until the new year: (With my result prediction):
28-29 November:
Portsmouth-Man Unied (United will win easy), 0-3
Arsenal-Chelsea (Arsenal have to win to still be in the title race), 2-1
Table:
Chelsea 14 – 33
Man United 14 – 31
Arsenal 13 – 28
5 December:
Arsenal-Stoke (Easy win), 4-0
West Ham-Man United (don’t think United w slip in this one), 1-2
Man City-Chelsea (City keeps drawing games, and hopefully they will keep this up), 1-1
Table:
Chelsea 15 – 34
Man United 15 – 34
Arsenal 14 – 31
12-13 December:
Chelsea-Everton (Easy for the Chavs), 3-0
Man United-Aston Villa (United always has trouble with Villa but usually still wins), 2-1
Liverpool-Arsenal (well, coming out with a draw here would be great), 1-1
Table:
Chelsea 16 – 37
Man United 16 – 37
Arsenal 15 – 32
15-16 December:
Man Und-Wolves (easy win), 3-0
Burnley-Arsenal (i know Burnley is good at home, but seriously, must be a comfortable win), 1-3
Chelsea-Portsmouth (easy win), 4-0
Table:
Chelsea 17 – 40
Man United 17 – 40
Arsenal 16 – 35
19-20 December:
Fulham-Man United (Fulham beat United here last year but don’t think they will this year), 0-2
Arsenal-Hull (easy win), 3-0
West Ham-Chelsea (it’s a derby, but Chelsea will be too strong), 1-2
Table:
Chelsea 18 – 43
Man United 18 – 43
Arsenal 17 – 38
26-27 December:
Birmingham-Chelsea (not many goals here but stil a comfortable win), 0-2
Arsenal-Aston Villa (we lost this fixture last year so we have a score to settle), 3-1
Hull-Man United (easy win), 0-2
Table:
Chelsea 19 – 46
Man United 19 – 46
Arsenal 18 – 41
28-30 December:
Chelsea-Fulham (easy win), 3-0
Portsmouth-Arsenal (easy win), 0-3
Man United-Wigan (easy win) 2-0
Table:
Chelsea 20 – 49
Man United 20 – 49
Arenal 19 – 44
I don’t know when we play the game in hand against Bolton at the Emirates, it was planned for december 2nd but now we play City in the League cup on that date…
But if we do play that game sometime in this period and we of course beat them, the table would be this:
Chelsea 20 – 49 points
Man United 20 – 49 points
Arsenal 20 – 47 points
to this point i’m not that worried, i think we will be up there still within reach….
but then we have January coming up (hoping Cameroon will go out of the African Cup of Nations in the Group Stages), otherwise, Song will miss every game that month…
And at the end of January and the beginning of February we have 3 consecutive PL games where we face Man United (h), Chelsea (a) and Liverpool (h)…
If we’re not within reach of Chelsea and United before we go into these 3 games, i think it’s all over, but if we are within reach, i think we will take our chance this season, and win it!
But it’s the time in January/and end of February that will be the most interesting time to see if we’re up for it!
November 22, 2009 at 11:57
I think Song should come off the marmite list,he has grown into the dm role and is playing well
November 22, 2009 at 11:59
RayGooner fantastic predictions there you have given me new hope!
November 22, 2009 at 12:00
Morning all!
So who was at it yesterday then Paul?
November 22, 2009 at 12:01
Nice one Ray. But would Sunderland have been down as an “easy win”?? if we are 2 points adrift going into Jan I will be very happy indeed. Youve just cheered me up!
November 22, 2009 at 12:02
Next week is a BIG game. I think we will be up for it.
November 22, 2009 at 12:03
What game were you watching. We were terrible. How can out give a rating of higher than 5 for anyone but the defenders and song. Sagna motm and ramsey should never start for arsenal again. Why not start arshavin who couldn’t have been more tired than sauna and callas who had good games. In addition, Andre would’ve wanted to put russia’s defeat behind him, which would’ve been achieved by having a good game, bit he wasn’t given enough time. Now our 13 game undefeated streak is gone, we also had the first game of the season where we couldn’t score and now we have the chavs. I like to see myself as an optimist, but we need an attitude adjustment, and fast.
November 22, 2009 at 12:04
ANTONE FERDINAND JUST SHOWS YOU HOW MUCH SOME OF YOU STUNTS NO ABOUT FOOTBALL -FUCKING AMAZING -JUST FUCKING AMAZING.
November 22, 2009 at 12:04
Zorro it was embarassing. There were at least 2 occasions where cock sizes were challenged!
November 22, 2009 at 12:05
i just hope we play that Bolton fixture before January, cause it’s never good having a game in hand if you’re trying to catch up….it always looks like a bigger gap than it really is…
November 22, 2009 at 12:07
Samir David Mangoon and a few others funny really,we’ve just lost and they are calling each other small dicks,because of their opinion.
November 22, 2009 at 12:08
Looks like one year should join that list
November 22, 2009 at 12:09
What’s a stunt?
November 22, 2009 at 12:10
just saw some interesting stats…
Last season Berbatov had the most assists from open play in the league with 10, this season Fábregas has already had 8 assists from open play…not to mention a couple from set pieces as well (and 6 goals to top it of)…
Fabregas is the Master!
November 22, 2009 at 12:13
Nobody is talking about that penalty. We are in deep S**t
November 22, 2009 at 12:13
lol I wish I could have summoned up the enthusiasm to come on. Unfortunately, having watched what was the most gutless insipid performance that I have seen from our team in a long while, I couldn’t be arsed!
Mangoo, no surprise there, loves a scrap. Funny to hear about the cock comments though!
That was seriously shocking yesterday, although their goal was very lucky as it just hit Campbell and rannicely into Bent’s path. Makes up for our luck v Wolves I guess.
November 22, 2009 at 12:15
morning y’all…
one could blame fatigue, but how do you explain Nasri’s & Rosicky’s performance?
like I said yesterday, Song was our MVP hands down, when he goes to ACN we are in trouble – at the end of the game after making double sub in the shape of Vela & Walcott we must have had the shortest front 6 in the league this weekend: the fact that Denilson is 2 inches shorter than Song as well doesn’t help
we were lucky that they missed their best striker in the shape of Jones – I had the idea to buy him instead of Chamakh in the summer: big, strong, quick, good in the air offers everything quality African strikers do, but does not fuck off to Africa every 2 years…
if we beat Chavs, all is forgiven, but we have fuck all height at the moment and it is not so easy to waltz past the son of a shoplifter
November 22, 2009 at 12:25
people who are blaming the international break(like Wenger) how many of our players played internationals. Fab, Gallas, Vaermaelen, Eddy song, Sagna….. who else was playing midweek oh yeah Rambo but apart from him I guess then we rely too much on Fab.
November 22, 2009 at 12:33
Reggie57. 2nd rate team? Typical comment from a Liverpoolfan… Oh youre an Arsenal. sorry my mistake. I mistook you for a second to be an typically arrogant scouser
November 22, 2009 at 12:36
we really need a few so called brick shit houses (as MG likes to refer to such players) to allow Fabregas (especially a tired one) some breathing space against not necessarily the best skilled but power nevertheless midfields…
November 22, 2009 at 12:37
*powerful
November 22, 2009 at 12:39
The wingers let us down …. Fabregas did not link up well also…No commitment, no directness, no desire to score.
November 22, 2009 at 12:42
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1766_5711387,00.html
Nice to hear that wenger is going to play Vela!!!!
November 22, 2009 at 12:45
RayGooner@11.56
Great work.
We were expected to run over Sunderland. In the easy peasy games you mentioned, Manu or chelsea are bound to stumble in a game or two.
If, big if, we win both Chelsea and Pool, well….
November 22, 2009 at 12:45
Arshavin really talks sense;
Russian playmaker Arshavin said: “Arsene needs to buy new players and expensive ones. All the talented and inexpensive players are already with us and the players who could really boost our power are all costly to bring in.
“I realise that if we buy a star, someone in the squad will be rejected but this is fair. It is the manager’s job to decide such things.”
“I can say that this season the only game I played really well was against Olympiacos,” he added. “In the rest of the matches I was not so good. I was not dynamic enough in performances.”
But he has better news for Arsenal fans, and a promise to improve as his family settle better into London life.
“For me it is still difficult to settle,” he admitted. “But my children already go to nursery and it will get better and better.
“When your family is still next to you, it is good for you because you can see your children and wife every day but you have extra problems because you must help them.
“When they came my life became easier and it helped me improve.”
Arshavin, 28, added: “I like the football in the Premier League, it is completely different to Russia.
“I like working here and don’t have a problem as no one recognises me, which is good. I can relax.”
November 22, 2009 at 12:46
G’day all: Awful performance yesterday. I thought the hack on Vela was a pen, which seemed lost on most apart from Hanson and co who both agreed it was. I can’t remember us being awarded any pens since the Celtic debacle, which I supposed makes our record scoring feat even more remarkable. I guess most Referee’s will have had the seeds of doubt well and truly planted in their psyche’s, so may not get any of those type decisions for a while yet.
November 22, 2009 at 12:48
and that is why Senderos would do more damage (to the opposition that is) in DM than Denilson in Song’s absence…
Jones & Cana form quite a spine in their team without being slow & clumsy, Phil could do a Cana for us IMO…
and please remind me, who is supposed to be out ‘physical force’ in the front 6? would that not be B52 & Diaby? don’t want to elaborate on this further…
November 22, 2009 at 12:51
RayGooner,
I remember we had a discussion about Loss/draws that could decide the title.
We said 5 losses and 5 draws may be could do it.
In 13 games Chelsea have lost 2 no draws
Manu and us lost three and drawn 1 (Us including game in hand – taken as a win)
November 22, 2009 at 12:52
*our ‘physical force’
it goes without saying that I love our brand of football, we can make any team look like muppets on our day, but for crying out loud, we need some brutal force or we shall continue with this ‘cold northern wintery evening’ bullshit…
November 22, 2009 at 13:00
mornin All..
Thx for the post…well i really hate to loose..still im actually not worried i thought we did enough to win ..but sometimes it isnt to be…and i hope Our Beloved Arsenal uses the defeat as a reminder…nothing comes for free…go on you Gunners
tom
November 22, 2009 at 13:00
Suga, even if we had brutal force in midfield yesterday, we would not have won…The problem was not with the defence..the problem was Nasri and Rosicky fucked up and Cesc did not link up well with them.
We missed the directness of Bendtner and what Shava sometimes provide us.
November 22, 2009 at 13:05
In other words we had no cutting edge right!
November 22, 2009 at 13:08
No cutting edge at all…we looked like the team of last year..passing the ball around to each other
November 22, 2009 at 13:09
I reckon the biggest factor in losing yesterday was Eduardo.
He did not hold the ball up at all, not giving time for anyone to overlap him.That’s why Rosicky and Nasri had off games IMO.
November 22, 2009 at 13:10
Back to crab football then ritesh!!
November 22, 2009 at 13:17
Good Point Samir….and i would be very surprised if Wenger doesnt adress that problem in January…
tom
November 22, 2009 at 13:19
dont think so..Wenger will give them a spanking. He is not going to put up with the shit of last year because if it continues then the fans will ask for his head.
Dudu did fine Samir, its not his job to hold the ball, he is no RVP.
November 22, 2009 at 13:22
Sad to say but for me Eduardo and Rosicky don’t look like the same players they were and i hope i’m wrong but they might never be again.Roll on transfer window we still need two or three players i think.
November 22, 2009 at 13:24
We need a replacement for Song in Jan.. Rambo does not fit the bill.
November 22, 2009 at 13:25
well tom be prepared to be surprised. Wenger is gonna sit on his skinny arse and do nothing, like he didnt do anything when Cana was available for free. He won posession so well and quickly and distibutrd it instantly to the offensive players. Song is good but he keeps getting caught in possession and then starts running sideways or towards his own goal. Cannt win possesion as convincingly as Cana either.
November 22, 2009 at 13:25
Yeah i only hope that yesterday was a one off performance, play like that against the chavs and we will get murdered……
November 22, 2009 at 13:26
* 5mil
November 22, 2009 at 13:28
Keep the faith Grovers, we’ve got an important month come up, by the end, we’ll know what this team is made of.If yesterday didn’t tell you that,then i don’t know what will.
November 22, 2009 at 13:29
Whats your prediction BBK as clubber lang said PAIN!!!
November 22, 2009 at 13:30
the lack of van persie is very damaging,if you think we can cope your being very naive
November 22, 2009 at 13:31
i told you the only hope for a trophy is in the fa cup now
November 22, 2009 at 13:32
Fuck Man Wenger will Never Learn. Hes trying to play Fantasy Football with the Arsenal.
November 22, 2009 at 13:39
Our players were not as sharp after a tiresome International break. Also, most of them had only a day & half to train. I know this is not the excuse but it’s true and that’s why we didn’t see the usual Arsenal we’ve been seeing the past 7 weeks.
On the other hand, 95% of Sunderland players had solid two weeks of training cos of no involvement in International games. They also had the advantage to play at home.
We started the game the way we were supposed to and created some good chances. On another day, we could have scored 2 or 3 in the first 15-20 mins but those chances didn’t go our way yesterday. AW was right to say that it was more frustrating than disappointing to lose.
On a positive note, we have just one more day to feel sorry for ourselves cos on Tuesday night, we’re playing CL game against S. Liege at home. Liege lost 2-1 last night. So, it’s a great chance to put our poor result behind us and give Liege a good spanking. We have so many players available for that game. Can’t wait to see us back in action…
November 22, 2009 at 13:48
If Arsenal want to win the epl ,they have to win against teams in the lower to upper mid table range. MU beat Everton considered a tough nut.The thing is the gunners must be able to win even when not playing well.
If you look at the goal scored by bent,some of the defenders were ball watching. Regarding the “penalty” incident what action would the FA take against refs who ignore a clear penalty award. With the stakes so high the decision must be spot on.
Some referees are getting away with underperformance.The fa or Refs board need to send a strong messgae this will not be tolerated.
November 22, 2009 at 14:01
bbk you must be a happy boy today
November 22, 2009 at 14:08
BBK you say we’re fucked even wirh Van Persie so what difference does it make. BBK’s never happy terry.
November 22, 2009 at 14:10
I wonder what BBK is like when he goes to a match
November 22, 2009 at 14:12
It’s that cliche of winning when you play badly. The mancs were pissed on by sunderland and they got a point from an own goal. Yesterday they had one shot on target (and that was fortunate) and the cunts scored. And it fucking had to be bent!
November 22, 2009 at 14:18
Bent, the Arsenal fan, that is
November 22, 2009 at 14:21
Young Guns;
Brazilian Serie ‘A’ outfit Fluminense have sold their highly prized young forward Wellington Silva to Arsenal for $5 million dollars, according to respected Rio-based journalist Gilmar Ferreira.
Ferreira has reported on his official blog that, following talks last week, Arsenal have finally ended the protracted saga by snapping up one of the most sought after young strikers around. However, due to FIFA rules, he will follow the same path as Argentine goalkeeper Damián Martínez by remaining with his club until he is 18, in 2011.
The starlet, nicknamed Ciel, impressed during a 7 day trial last Christmas – he even played 45 minutes for the Under 16’s against Norwich – and he made an emphatic impression, scoring 4 goals. In a bid to warn off potential suitors who included Chelsea, Man Utd, Real Madrid, AC Milan and Barcelona, coach Carlos Alberto Parreira promoted Wellington into his first-team squad but financial trouble has seen them buckle, and a deal looks to have been struck by trusted Brazil-based scout Sandro Orlandelli.
November 22, 2009 at 14:22
Samir – So why didn’t you bother to analyse the game like that yesterday..?? Instead of just calling the manager a c**t and then starting fights with everyone.
Not just you alone obviously, but for me you really stood out as the worst culprit.
Rant over
November 22, 2009 at 14:24
Lol, Well Sharkey yesterday I was seriously pissed off with the performance.
I apologize for my bad language btw.
November 22, 2009 at 14:24
Song was brilliant yesterday !!!
Diaby WAS badly missed in my opinion. I see its a little clearer to a few on here now why the likes of Denilson and Diaby are picked for the team.
November 22, 2009 at 14:27
Samir – don’t worry about apologising to me, cos I just found it as funny as I found it disappointing, but I appreciate the sentiment.
But David ACTUALLY DENYING he had a small cock was fucking priceless though !!!
November 22, 2009 at 14:29
Hi guys. Long time since my last post. Is becuse of my flu problems. But, now I’m fine. Anyway, I would like to know what’s Your solution guys? If Wenger has 30 mil to spend from Ade sale. Who should he had bought?
November 22, 2009 at 14:30
Mr B You really think Song was poor yesterday…?? You’re kidding right..?? You’ve got to be.
November 22, 2009 at 14:33
Afternoon everyone!
November 22, 2009 at 14:34
ManG was also ‘on one’ last night but I feel that he was reacting (badly!!) to the hysterical reactions of some of our fans.
We have a poor performance and Wenger’s a c**t, got a skinny arse, should have fucking well done this and fucking well done that.
Wot an emotional rollercoaster some Gooners must live on, if their emotions can completely yo-yo like that.
When we were doing great, we couldn’t start celebrating winning the PL, likewise now we’ve lost a game the season ain’t over.
November 22, 2009 at 14:35
@Sharkey
Lol.
Looking at the football side we have some hard games coming up. After these games however we don’t actually have that many hard games left. Most of the bigger teams we will be playing at home from January onwards.
Uefa Champions League
Arsenal v Standard Liege, Gp H, 19:45
Barclays Premier League
Arsenal v Chelsea, 16:00
Carling Cup
Man City v Arsenal, QF, 19:45
Barclays Premier League
Arsenal v Stoke, 15:00
Uefa Champions League
Olympiakos v Arsenal, Gp H, 19:45
Barclays Premier League
Liverpool v Arsenal, 16:00
Barclays Premier League
Burnley v Arsenal, 19:45
Barclays Premier League
Arsenal v Hull, 17:30
Arsenal v Aston Villa, 13:30
November 22, 2009 at 14:38
Hey Maciek….
Huntelaar £25m..?? LOL
November 22, 2009 at 14:44
Sharkey, do we really need him? I would rather have Villa, who of course would cost about 40 milion but is well worth it.
November 22, 2009 at 14:49
Sharkey, that’s why people love football… you don’t need to be objective and rational to enjoy it… it’s all part of the game.
November 22, 2009 at 14:49
Wenger is going to have to buy a CB or two in the summer.
A Gallas replacement seeing he’s getting old and the replacement will need a some time to settle maybe. Also seeing Sendy and Silvestre will probably be off we will be left with hardly any real CB’s.
1)Vermaelen.
2)Djourou who will be out of form after a season long injury.(Not sure he’s good enough)
3) Gallas if he stays? He will probably pick up a few injuries and not be able to play week in week out in his old age and all.
November 22, 2009 at 14:52
If you want a better stream download Sopcast and go to http://www.soccertvlive.net for the best streams.
Hope we do better against Chelsea, managed to get tickets!
will be my first Arsenal league game.
Really looking forward to it!!
November 22, 2009 at 14:55
Samir. I think he needs to buy 2 cd’s. Since Sendy, Silver and Johan are all crap. Sharner from Wigan and Cetin from Galata will do for me. Otherwise, if Gallas goes he needs to spend big and buy someone like Bruno Alves for 15-20 milion.
November 22, 2009 at 14:59
i smell BS everytime i read any kind of analysis by any of the whiners and moaners here when we draw or lose
the simple fact is that we were unlucky to have an away fixture and that too a tough one after the break..did any other top 4 side play away?? NO..i totally agree wid wenger whn he said that we would have won this if we were home ..we’ve plyed 12 games out of which 7 have been away..i think we’ve done well so far
criticsm is ok but sayin we’re out of the title race because of this result is just an act of shameful pessimism and cowardly surrender
November 22, 2009 at 15:10
EG, totally agree with you, mate. We’re not out of title race & we don’t need to sign too. Chelsea & ManU will defo drop points. Chelsea are playing against us & Shitty next and if they lose both (a big if!!!), they will have lost 4 already before we’re half way in the season. This season is wide open and we’ve got as much chance of winning the league as Chelsea & ManU do.
November 22, 2009 at 15:18
Emperor, but will be out if we lose to Chelsea.
November 22, 2009 at 15:18
gutted
shit performance, and result, nasri and eduardo were awfull, chelsea is now a must win, and is our biggest league game for 2 years, for everyone who was so anti chamakh after watching him on youtube, i said he was needed at the start, and hopefully he will be in for jan, vela is not ready, and eduardo can only play in 442 like he did 2 years back when he looked at his best, wengers line up was good as were his subs, it was the players performances that fucked us
November 22, 2009 at 15:20
Emperor, some would say it’s a shameful excuse to cite an away game after international week.
November 22, 2009 at 15:29
Lets agree to disagree Ped.
I ain’t getting into the analysis of how some people lose all sense of perspective and start ranting like they’ve had 10 Stellas.
Calling each other c**ts and stating how much they’d like to punch another blogger in the face.
Good luck to ‘em all, honestly, I really do wish ‘em all the best !!!
November 22, 2009 at 15:32
Maciek…I was joking about Huntelaar.
November 22, 2009 at 15:40
Sharkey, I don’t like all that…
Did it all kick off last night?
November 22, 2009 at 15:47
pedro , it does sound like an excuse i agree with you.but the reality is that , this season’s more tight than any we’ve seen for quite a while and thus away games to teams like sunderland , villa , west ham ,fulham etc have only become tougher , especially considering the fact that refs jus refuse to show they have a pair and are succumbing to crowd pressure more and more.you think any ref would’ve waved play on after vela was clipped if this was at emirates.little things like these are only making it more tough.these teams might be losing to other smaller teams but when they’ll play any big team ,it’s gonna be very different.
infact this is the reason why we lost at OT too…and that’s why i find it unfair that , having only played 12 games , we’ve already faced everton , manure , shitty , fulham , west ham n sunderland away
November 22, 2009 at 15:49
I don’t think Wenger gave excuses yesterday, in fact i thought he was critical of the team than usual – he suggested the team weren’t up for it, needed to be more consistent, ruled out the international break as an excuse as he expected the team to perform regardlesss…
I guess we can all learn from this result, football result remains quite random. Playing all our favs Ramsey, Rosicky, Fabrega blah blah may look good on player but in practice a bit of Eboue, Diaby, Bendntner, Denilson and Song gives us something extra
November 22, 2009 at 15:49
Sharkey I dont think song was poor, I just for club like arsenal, with title ambitons home and abroad we need a more dominating player. Now a lotta people including Arsene felt YaYa was a good solution but if we couldnt get him Cana was fucking brilliant at 5mil.
Your all giving Fab, Nasri and Co. Stick but Cana didnt give them an Inch. As soon as we got the ball and He was in and won it back maintaining their pressure and frustrating our players.
Song was great he drove forward, he filled in at CB when Gallas a forced wide but he isnt that dominating in the middle of the pitch albeit one of our better players on the day
November 22, 2009 at 15:52
Despite all that has been said
I fell we can still win the title if Wenger makes the right buys in Jan.
November 22, 2009 at 15:55
Mr B. If we lose to cheslki we can forget about PL.
November 22, 2009 at 15:55
Its not all gloom and doom but Us gooners should get used to the idea of no silverware.
November 22, 2009 at 15:57
may look good on player = may look good on paper
November 22, 2009 at 15:57
Maciek it isnt over till its over but at the sametime I dont like to have the “I dont see the shortcommings of my team” glasses like wenger does.
November 22, 2009 at 15:59
Fuck man Arsenal loosing always fucks up my weekend. I need to stop careing.
November 22, 2009 at 15:59
Mr B I don’t think there are many more dominant players in midfield than Song atm, if at all any. Song is brilliant I’d stick with him if I were you
November 22, 2009 at 16:00
Ped – Zorro asked the same earlier, and I wondered why he didn’t just have a quick scan.
Alternatively do a Control F on ‘C**t, ’small dick’ and ‘twat’, see how many of each one you can find.
Anyway its me vs mi boy on his new Bar Football game this arvo. Bollox to hi tech games and to you miserable lot
November 22, 2009 at 16:01
Well said Man. 15.59
November 22, 2009 at 16:02
Lineo f the inite was David’s denial of having a small dick…he even went on to have a quick brag if my memory serves me right.
Fucking priceless that was !!!
Anyway ….off til tomorrwo now
November 22, 2009 at 16:05
Right Man and Sharkey Song is more dominant than Essien, Cana, Mascherano etc?????? How come he isnt linked with anyone like Fab.
Now Id believe u sooner if u told me Fab is the best midfielder in the world.
November 22, 2009 at 16:07
My Dad told me something that has served me very well in life, He said.
“U can lie to the world but never lie to Yourself.”
November 22, 2009 at 16:10
Song is good. Still we do need another quality cdm. Sissoko from Toulouse will do. But hey, we are living in Arsene’s wonderland, so I’m sure he will fail once more in January.
November 22, 2009 at 16:11
SharkeySure Says:
November 22, 2009 at 14:27
Samir – don’t worry about apologising to me, cos I just found it as funny as I found it disappointing, but I appreciate the sentiment.
But David ACTUALLY DENYING he had a small cock was fucking priceless though !!!
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Just cuz you have one dont mean i should have one Sharkey
I really dont understand why that is so “fucking priceless” mate.
Do you feel ashamed when you use the mens room in public?
November 22, 2009 at 16:15
SharkeySure Says:
November 22, 2009 at 16:02
Lineo f the inite was David’s denial of having a small dick…he even went on to have a quick brag if my memory serves me right.
Fucking priceless that was !!!
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And you didnt have the balls to say anything but wait till the day after to make a claim about it when clearly I’m not here.
Shameful Cretin. What a truly sorry creature.
Of all the things I said its my penis you find most entertaining?
How………gay.
November 22, 2009 at 16:15
Mr B, your dad gave you sound advice there.
Apart from Essien am I correct in saying the players you mentioned all play for teams below Arsenal in the table?
Do you think we are quite an attacking team, as a result leave spaces?
I don’t hear rumours of clubs trying to sign Rooney, Essien, etc does that make them rubbish too?
November 22, 2009 at 16:16
David, rule please…
I think Sharkey’s point is he didn’t want to engage in the childish slanging.
November 22, 2009 at 16:17
Emperor Gooner Says:
November 22, 2009 at 14:59
i smell BS everytime i read any kind of analysis by any of the whiners and moaners here when we draw or lose
the simple fact is that we were unlucky to have an away fixture and that too a tough one after the break..did any other top 4 side play away??
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Disagree completely.
The simple fact is that we arent good enough. Simple as that.
Rosicky/Nasri/Eduardo
Stella Cast on paper.
Absolute shyte performance in reality.
And Mozart shouldve buried his chance in the first half but i’ve noticed he has an uncanny ability to shoot towards the keeper.
November 22, 2009 at 16:19
Engage in the childish slanging but then the most entertaining part is not the fact that someone said i had a small penis but that i was denying it?
That is extremely weird. And Homosexual
November 22, 2009 at 16:23
Man Real are supposed to be signing rooney and essien just came back from an injury.
November 22, 2009 at 16:25
Im afraid we are a team of Jack’s of all trade’s and master of none…
No true Winger. No true CF. No true GK. No true Wing Backs. No true DM.
Its just Attacking Mids, and CB’s
I’d love to see more direct players in the team.
Watching Nasri yesterday reminded me exactly why we played crab football especially with Denilson on the team.
November 22, 2009 at 16:26
David, we embrace all sexualities, colours, nationalities and penis sizes… this is the blog of love, and slanging isn’t allowed.
Mr B, Liverpool fans aren’t too fond of Mascharano.
November 22, 2009 at 16:30
Cheers Ped.
You really do need to help David out with stuff like this.
I love it when he asks why its ‘priceless’. He just doesn’t get it does he. .??
And then his ‘piece de resistance’…he accuses me of having a small dick, and no doubt he’ll take my non-response as confirmation that I have
I told him to grow up some time ago….he clearly hasn’t.
November 22, 2009 at 16:30
Man just because those teams are below us doesnt mean the have worst DMs. Ur logic is similar to A’s
November 22, 2009 at 16:32
Mr B….the who else wants them is on a par with saying Arsene Knows.
Very weak.
Make your own case mate.
Anyway..reading but not posting for a while…..back later
November 22, 2009 at 16:32
“fucking priceless” – suggest a jest or a joke.
Where is the love in that?
November 22, 2009 at 16:32
We arent too fond of Ade either but we could have used him yesterday Peds.
November 22, 2009 at 16:34
Sharkey I didnt get what u were reffering to about who else and weak point please elaborate….
November 22, 2009 at 16:35
SharkeySure Says:
November 22, 2009 at 16:30
I told him to grow up some time ago….he clearly hasn’t.
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And Pedro you dont call this Slanging?
Certainly when someone is goaded first off by mentioning your name in a public blog and indicating it was “fucking priceless” that I do or not have a small penis…and mentions it not once but twice in a row…and goes on to goad me that i should grow up?
Who the fuck are you fella?
November 22, 2009 at 16:35
Ok If a player is in demand it does show that he is one of the best in his position saying otherwise well Im sure u could explain that to urself
November 22, 2009 at 16:36
Mr B, Real in for Rooney????? Wow didn’t hear that before, I guess Ronaldo needs company
but seriously you should have sold that news to the tabloids, now they’ll just print that stuff without paying their dues
David,
Song is a true DM, I feel. I think Wenger’s plan has been to build a team of adaptable players for the past 4/5 years, close to what ‘total football’ should be. I don’t think this is problem tho, (except when it doesn’t work like yesterday,) but a big advantage is that players can fill in for each other especially when some are injured, without necessary disrupting the structure of the team.
November 22, 2009 at 16:37
David man the more u make a farcas the more people are going to believe u have a micro penis because generaly people dont take offence at statments they dont believe to be true.
November 22, 2009 at 16:38
Man it was already in the tabloids. Ronaldo went on record to say he wanted rooney to join him
November 22, 2009 at 16:39
And I’ve never seen the idiot say some insightful analysis about Arsenal. Or talk tactics. Or mention this player or that player.
SharkeySure Says:
November 22, 2009 at 14:22
Samir – So why didn’t you bother to analyse the game like that yesterday..?? Instead of just calling the manager a c**t and then starting fights with everyone.
The first thing the fucker did was to slang somebody.
So if David slangs someone. Leave David alone. thanks
November 22, 2009 at 16:40
Man it only matters if they can do a great job in every position atleast good enough to win trophies.
Its nothingg new Ajax cameup with total football u cannt recreat it by calling it true football.
November 22, 2009 at 16:41
Yea Man
How can you say Song is a true DM. When Wenger already said he’s a CB?
I reckon its Denilson that is being trained for the position.
November 22, 2009 at 16:42
Mr B.
I dont mind if a friend of mine tells me i have a small penis.
Put some idiot off the internet and then tries to have a fucking laugh about it?
November 22, 2009 at 16:45
Well fuck him. Honestly fighting over the net issnt going to get u anywhere especialy when someone is unreasonable.
What are u gonna do at the end of it all smash ur screen?
November 22, 2009 at 16:45
Spuds winning 6-1 against wigan
November 22, 2009 at 16:48
Only way round it david you and sharkey use your web cam and tape measure!! pedro will sort it mate!!
November 22, 2009 at 16:48
Defoe’s on his 5th so far.
November 22, 2009 at 16:48
Emperor Gooner Says:
November 22, 2009 at 15:47
especially considering the fact that refs jus refuse to show they have a pair and are succumbing to crowd pressure more and more.you think any ref would’ve waved play on after vela was clipped if this was at emirates.little things like these are only making it more tough.these teams might be losing to other smaller teams but when they’ll play any big team ,it’s gonna be very different.
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I think its a very poor argument to blame the refs.
Should we have had a penalty shout. Maybe.
But we are way too one dimensional. Our only attacking threat was Sagna.
Every other dilly dally passing we did was snuffed out.
We didnt create chances. Not the refs fault imo
November 22, 2009 at 16:50
No sign of Geoff.
Later all. Fuck it if Wenger, the board and the players dont give a fuck why should we? We just there to fill their pockets.
Later All.
November 22, 2009 at 16:50
8-1 DEAR GOD!
November 22, 2009 at 16:51
Do You see Totts as top 4 material guys? And plese do not be rude( I know what do You think about them), it’s just a question and they do seem to be in good shape this season.
November 22, 2009 at 16:52
Fuckin weekend gets worse and worse!!
November 22, 2009 at 16:52
To answer your question Maciek, no. Spurs will finish 7th mate.
November 22, 2009 at 16:53
Yea reggie he’ll have to pay for that though!
Im not cheap!!!
November 22, 2009 at 16:54
Mr B, I agree with your 16.30 comment but I’m not quite sure I share the same logic as A.
The point I was making is that from last season, what we see is a development in our players, the older and more experienced they become but more importantly as Pedro pointed out these players may suffer poor form!
Of course total football is nothing new, I never suggested otherwise and to be frank I don’t think any team has played it in its true form since the Dutch team of the 70s (aided with some ’supplements’)
As for Arsenal, I think apart from two matches this season we’ve played quite well thus far, wouldn’t you agree?
David,
I can say Song is a DM because he plays in that position and does so exceedingly but I agree he is also a CB. You may right that Denilson would eventually play the position in the long run, we’ll see
November 22, 2009 at 16:54
oh shitty shit
November 22, 2009 at 16:55
9-1….
November 22, 2009 at 16:55
Will the spuds go above us now?
November 22, 2009 at 16:56
they will next week
November 22, 2009 at 17:00
The spuds are looking good. Still they are spuds so they will probably f**k it up and end up outside the top 4. 9 goals is an impressive record, though.
November 22, 2009 at 17:01
I think its more down to the fact that Wigan are just shite.
The mancs scored 5 goals against them in 1 half.
One you score against them they go to gutter shite.
November 22, 2009 at 17:01
fuck what a shit week end, im off to beachy head to do a bit of hang gliding!!
November 22, 2009 at 17:15
I fu*king hate the Spuds!! But no more than the Chavs… or Lpool.
November 22, 2009 at 17:17
Don’t worry about Tottenham. They always flatter to deceive.
November 22, 2009 at 17:23
9-1? That a pro evolution score! Wigwam but be having the mother of off days. Who scored for the spuds?
November 22, 2009 at 17:26
5 defoe!
November 22, 2009 at 17:30
Defoe is a cunt too. Oddly he always seems to score goals but is never one of the top scorers at the end of the season.
November 22, 2009 at 17:31
spurs just popped a lil more pressure on next week-boy oh boy thats a biggun…our croazilian really needs to step up and show why we dont need to invest in jan
November 22, 2009 at 17:33
Why goonerwinsoon, whats happening next week.
1-0 stoke. Fuller
November 22, 2009 at 17:39
Just reading back a bit. Cant remember who but someone mentioned Paul Scharner as someone we should buy in January or the summer. Just wondering if they are serious? I sure hope they are joking.
November 22, 2009 at 17:40
spurs have two away games… so do the chavs.. and we have three home games now
November 22, 2009 at 17:50
Stu, he is still better than Silvestre.
November 22, 2009 at 17:52
But Silvestre never plays Maciek (thankfully). Actually spending money would be wasted on Scharner unless he was a starter or regular sub and i just dont think he is good enough. Anyway he is probably too old to even be considered by the club.
November 22, 2009 at 17:52
I did Stu, judging by today’s result it might seem a crazy idea but over the past 3/4 years Paul Scharner has been one of the best and most consistent players outside the top four teams in the league. Oh yeah remember, there were 11 players for Wigan not just Paul Scharner.
I still think he’d a good squad player, pretty decent in the air too!
November 22, 2009 at 17:56
Stu. I agree, but answer me this question. Are You happy with our back-up defensive duo( Silver and Sendy)? If not who would You like to get?
November 22, 2009 at 17:56
Under Martinez, Wigan have either been excellent or very poor – beat Chelsea one week lose to Spurs the other, I wouldn’t take this result too seriously
November 22, 2009 at 17:57
Useless cunts fancy conceding a goal at home to Wigan
November 22, 2009 at 17:59
Not happy with Silvestre at all but fairly content with Senderos. I wouldnt be annoyed if Senderos played a few games for us.
I dont know who i would buy but thats up to Wenger and the scouts.
And look on the bright side…Silvestres contract runs out this summer (unfortunately so does Gallas and Senderos’s/
November 22, 2009 at 17:59
Yes Man, but they( the spuds) have still got 9 goals at home. Have we ever win THAT high?
November 22, 2009 at 18:00
Our ladies lost to Sunderland as well
November 22, 2009 at 18:01
Well knowing Wenger he will sign some 18 years old kid from Burkina Faso and Norvedt will be back so do not be so excited Stu. Still I would love to see someone like Bruno Alves, Cetin from Galata, Sakho even if he is left footed and even Juhasz.
November 22, 2009 at 18:03
Maciek, don’t worry I can assure you we will finish above spurs this season, next season, the season after next, the one after that…
November 22, 2009 at 18:05
But can he buy 2 cd’s a cdm and a world class gk having 25 mil to spend. Even Kaszpirovski couldn’t have done it.LOL.
November 22, 2009 at 18:06
*wouldn’t
November 22, 2009 at 18:08
We can buy Lloris for 15m (worth it?) and sell a few to make money for other players.
Im sure Wenger will have money available to him in the summer (whether of not he will use it is another matter).
November 22, 2009 at 18:13
Of course Stu, Hugo is well worth it. Knowing Aulas he will demand 20 m at least. If not him, than Adler or Nouer, or Akinfeev as well. Still would love to see Fabiański making a long run in the team.
November 22, 2009 at 18:30
Havent seen the penalty claim yet. Was it a foul or what?
November 22, 2009 at 18:32
looked like a foul. even if he got the ball he got the man first. Thing is u cannt win a title by winning the odd penalty. U have to be dominant home and away.
November 22, 2009 at 18:35
We started well but once Cana settled in we were fucked.
But it will get better we need to figure out how to get behind teams esp on the counter, if we are playing with 3 upfront. someone has to make the run for the ball over the top. We have the guys Fab and co who can deliver that kind of ball.
November 22, 2009 at 18:42
Yeah Mr.B, had theo started on the wing he could have been the runner to get in behind. Nasri and Rosicky arent wingers so the chances of them doing it were slim at best.
November 22, 2009 at 18:48
Here’s a link to the MOTD highlights. If it doesnt work just copy and paste it onto google.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xb896i_sunderland-v-arsenal_sport#content
November 22, 2009 at 18:49
Mr B. Earlier I was responding to what you said about no one wanting to buy Song.
Thats just in case you’re still wondering…but not to worry about it now though….
I agree about getting in behind, someone mentioned that Nasri came short for everything, and apparently Arsene has implied the same post match.
Footballs a funny game though…cos for all the tactics etc…Rosicky and Eddies two chances were both far easier than the difficult one that RVP scores when we were struggling vs Fulham.
Thats why I really don’t get the yo-yo-ing of ‘perceptions’. In a game like yesterdays its all down to very small details, some go your way some don’t.
Bent has shit header oing well wide, Frazier’s shit control drops it right into Bent’s path. Luck or design..??
November 22, 2009 at 18:52
Im not so sure Wenger has money to spend.
All these contracts he’s dishing out to people who dont deserve it. Im not sure.
November 22, 2009 at 18:56
U know what they say sharkey fortune favours the brave. The frustrating thing is this happens alot to us. We are too one dimensional in attack and teams figure us out, we cannt get our game going and if they are lucky theyll nick a goal and win the game.
November 22, 2009 at 19:00
Just back from a Wayne Krantz concert… Brilliant!
There was also this great Polish band Rafal Gorzycki…
Really helped the healing process… Then i get home and find out Spuds scored 9!!
November 22, 2009 at 19:04
I see we’re still talking about the match… Agree with Mr B fortune favours the brave, we didn’t deserve to lose the game but we didn’t deserve to win either. With our quality we should have troubled them more.
The difference was we got worse after the break and they got better. You could blame that on the internationals… Could.
November 22, 2009 at 19:05
@
Vela or theo on the wing will be great. Even Arsh and Eddy arent bad. We need another CF though. Numchuks wont be a big improvement on Nikki b though and Wenger will have problems when they are all fit.
Again it comes down to a Back up Dm and CB, Otherwise one cannt have many complaints squadwise.
November 22, 2009 at 19:09
One dimensional Mr B..?? 50+ goals says differently.
I think we had a fair few players underperform for various reasons yesterday.
For me one of Arsene’s biggest weaknesses is his inability to generate the fight in his players on these ‘off’ days. Too many were going thru the motions yesterday, and Arsenedoesn;t seem to hasve a ‘hairdryer’ to sort it.
All in all its a single result and I’m not too despondent at the moment, but I deffo agree thatwe need to start ‘making our own luck’.
I just watched the MOTD highlights…not one of our players appeals for the pen, Nasri stood 3 yds away arms by his side, Arsh 4 more yards away…turns his back and walks away….shocking!!!
November 22, 2009 at 19:09
Barca had no real good cover for the front 3 last year but they still managed to do a clean sweep. Too bad we don’t have the same luck with injuries.
I’d say Eduardo is as good cover as you’ll find.
There’s no reason the team put out shouldn’t have won. The boys just let Wenger and us down.
November 22, 2009 at 19:10
Mayank…. was anyone actually talking about ‘the match’ yesterday then..??
November 22, 2009 at 19:14
Stu – 90% of the reason that weren’t a pen was cos no one appealed for it. Absolutely no-one !!!
Watch the vid from Truth’s link, scroll to the last 5% or so…
Ps. Cheers for the link Truth
November 22, 2009 at 19:14
second that, SS – we need someone who is capable of giving players good bollocking if they play shit: who is supposed to do this at Arse? Wenger or Rice? come on…
I’d say Keown would be brilliant as Wenger’s no.2 – chumps like Diaby would be shit scared to play poor pass
imagine facing this in the dressing room:
http://thesportboys.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/keown-ruud.jpg
November 22, 2009 at 19:16
Haha! No i wouldn’t say so SS, we were too busy telling each other that we don’t have a job and/or a dick!
November 22, 2009 at 19:24
I think u have to have a balance between Praise and A right spanking. when keane was manager at sunderland the players all hated him because he was giving them a hard time all the time.
Apart from that I agree Wenger is too soft to give his boys a kick in the Arse.
November 22, 2009 at 19:24
Evening all!
Wigan should hang their heads in shame, no premier league team should ship 9 goals, that is a fucking disgrace, and to spurs makes it even worse, I mean th mancs or chavs or at a stretch us, but those cunts!
November 22, 2009 at 19:24
My team for the chelsea game:
almunia
sagna,gallas,vermealen,gibbs
nasri-song-fabregas
walcott-vela-arshavin
Vela is really strong and can hold the ball well. I love him. Walcott is pure class. Arshavin , pure class!!! Also this is the quickest attack in the world. AGREE??
November 22, 2009 at 19:25
Passion man wheres the Passion. Theyre all acting like mercenaries.
November 22, 2009 at 19:27
I was astonished by some of ‘your’ posts for a bit. Then my favourite teenager Rohan (bless him) asks it here’s two Mayanks on LG. I thought he was being funny…
Turns out its true, the other one is all lower case. That was a relief for me, as I thought you’d gone over to the dark side !!
November 22, 2009 at 19:28
Agree Dutchman but Wenger prob wont want to hurt Eddys confidence and probably will play him. Whats wrong with Rosicky again maybe he would do better in Midfield.
November 22, 2009 at 19:28
Dutch, much as I hate to say this, I feel we really need Diaby instead of Nasri v the chavs, if only for a little more fight and height. Yes, I know he is not great in the air and is no Paddy, but he will give more than Nasri.
November 22, 2009 at 19:30
Dutch, sorry mate, cannot agree on Vela. He is a lightweight at the moment and can not play the middle man v the chavs!
November 22, 2009 at 19:30
Im off I have to study for some exams.
November 22, 2009 at 19:32
yes, I agree, it’s all about balance – good cop/bad cop routine, simple as…
in Wenger & Rice we have 2 good ol’ soft village constables unable to handle a proper villain – how do you impose authority on brilliant yet rebellious players?
November 22, 2009 at 19:33
We dont have anyone who can play the middle man CF vs the Chavs.
Not even VAn P.
November 22, 2009 at 19:34
Zorro…well said. Although at first I thought ‘at a stretch us’ was back to front, as we are waaaay more creative than the other two.
But on second thoughts, I’m not sure we’d keep going after the first 3 or 4. We tend not to be ruthless like that….(Everton aside of course)
November 22, 2009 at 19:35
Nice deal with Xmas coming up for us Gooners!
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/535034/arsenal-legends-3-dvd-set-15-99-pla
November 22, 2009 at 19:35
Gan ba tte Mr B (Trnsl:Good luck and do your best!!)
November 22, 2009 at 19:41
I’m with you on that one Zorro. Funny how we have to play without some players to recognise their value to the team.
Song vs Wolves, Diaby yesterday. Lack of penetration and desire …and I wonder if Eboue would have offered something. Ok, his end product is very hit and miss but he really does drive forward with real purpose.
Denilson hat trick next weekend…??
November 22, 2009 at 19:47
Good luck Mr B!
November 22, 2009 at 19:49
SS,
I read ‘my’ posts too! Truly shocking how people feel that if you don’t berate the team etc. illogically after a match you don’t care enough…
November 22, 2009 at 19:57
In spite of yesterday’s colossal under-performance we are still on track to score 126 goals, concede 47 and gather 95 points (compared to results for the equivalent fixtures last year.)
November 22, 2009 at 19:58
You gotta laugh ain’t ya.
Just stumbled across this:
http://theitalianview.tumblr.com/
‘Liverpools new striker Meno 39′
Fucking disgraceful
November 22, 2009 at 20:12
From Arsenal Analysis;
Mariana Kovacevic has a big reputation for treating injured players with the placenta fluid shortening the recovery period quite substantially.
Contrary to what Wenger believes the evidence is quite staggering and they are to be found closer at home.
There are a few Liverpool players who were supposed to be out of action for lengthy spells but found themselves playing after a few days treatment in Belgrade.
The latest is Glen Johnson. The others are Aurelio, Benayoun and Riera who were out with heavy injuries but made remarkable recoveries. This is confirmed by Rafa Benitez himself.
“Benajun and Riera had serious injuries, but when they returned from Serbia, even the X-rays taken showed no trace of these problems. Perhaps we will in the future send all players that have similar injuries to Belgrade” said Benitez.
Serbian national team captain and van Persie’s former Feyenoord team-mate Danko Lazovic has admitted that he was the one who sent the Dutchman to Belgrade.
”Percy heard from someone about Marianne and called me asking about my experiences with the treatment. I told him how I was cured, after which he decided to come to Belgrade – said Lazovic for the Serbian Paper “Sports Journal” and added:
Having seen Kovacevic and had placenta fluid rubbed into the affected area Lazovic made a shock comeback in only one week.
“If I knew how it works, maybe I leave my job and begin to practice it myself. I only know that I was out only for three days even though the prediction was for six weeks of absence from the field”
Could van Persie start against Chelsea after all?
November 22, 2009 at 20:14
This Nilmar kid is the future of Brazilian football. Can’t stop scoring atm. 2 for Villareal today and scored in both of Brazil’s games during the break
November 22, 2009 at 20:14
My team for Liege…
…………………….Almunia…………………
Eboue……Senderos………..Vermy………Traore/Silvest
……………………Denilson……………………..
…..Cesc……………………………….Ramsey……..
…Theo………………..Arshavin……………….Vela…
I would use this game to test Arshy in the CF role….
Theo and Vela start to get sharp….
We can sub in Nasri, Rosicky/Merida and Eddy for Cesc, Theo/Vela and Arshy…..
This way these guys should be fresh for Chelsea…..
November 22, 2009 at 20:20
I really think that Nasri does not yet know how to play on the left wing…..so Wenger needs to play him in the midfield with Cesc….
My team for Chelsea…….
……………………….Almunia……………………
Sagna……….Gallas……………Vermy………….Gibbs
…………………….Song…………………………
…..Cesc………………………………Nasri/Diaby….
..Theo………………..Arshy/Eddy………..Ashy/Eddy….
Vela to come on and run at tired legs….
Rosicky to some on as well…
We must start 2 of Theo,Arshy, Vela… we need pace…
I did not watch the Sunderland game but from I heard there too much sideways passing and no penetration…
So we need to start with some pace up top…
November 22, 2009 at 20:21
I read yesterday that we are 2 points better off than we were this stage last season.
we all hailed that as a terrible start, we may be scoring a lot more but we dont really have the points to show for it.
Dreading next week, seriously think we could be on the end of a hammering.
November 22, 2009 at 20:23
Agree with your 19.41 comment, SharkeyS
November 22, 2009 at 20:25
Just watched the MotD highlights and the comment when Vela was brought down was pretty telling
“none of his team mates appealed…Arsenal are a beaten team.”
It’s so last season to have so many of the team under-perform at the same time. We need someone on the field who’s going to bully/cajole/whatever it takes to get better efforts from the team when they get like this.
November 22, 2009 at 20:26
AA23, I don’t agree. Like the blokes on MOTD said we are losing, but at least we’ve been the better team in all the games we’ve lost. City,United, Sunderland, West Ham could have been all wins. We HAVE to learn to finish these teams off.
November 22, 2009 at 20:29
AA23: compared to the comparable fixtures last year we are actually 7 points better off and on track to gather 95 for the season.
November 22, 2009 at 20:30
AA23, we wont get hammered next week! It’s only the shite games we struggle with application in!
Make you right about the points, a lot of people were crowing about winning the league last year as well…
I agree with Pat… last year we looked lost, this year we’re more of a team, just a shame about the boom or bust aspect of our game!
November 22, 2009 at 20:30
What dont yo agree with Pat? that we are only 2 points better off or that we could get a battering off of Chelsea?
November 22, 2009 at 20:31
Man ..The Denilson hat trick bit..??
Song’s continuous improvement really is amazing me at the moment, and I’v ebeen a big fan if his even whne he was struggling cos he’d shown me ’something’ on a few occasions. I feel the same about Diaby.
We’ve always known Eboue (the Somali Pirate??!!) had ability…but its his antics and theatrics that mainly let him down. He’s toned them down a bit, so know he just needs to work on consistency and end product.
November 22, 2009 at 20:33
I hope you are right Pedro, I said yesterday that we do tend to step up a few gears to play the so called big teams and I hope we do next weekend.
I just cant help thinking that when its a “must win” game our arsehole tends to go, the pressure gets too much and we can bottle it.
If it doesnt mean anything we can butcher anyone. I just worry about the importance of this game to our season and the effect that seems to have on our game.
November 22, 2009 at 20:35
Cheers for the correct figure Ray, 7 points is much better than 2, even a retard like me can see that.
Just hope the pressure of next weeks game isnt too much for us.
November 22, 2009 at 20:36
That was a stonewall penalty. Ridiculous
November 22, 2009 at 20:37
Ped – I play down at Millwall on a Friday night..its only 7 a-side winner stays on in 8 min matches,but I have no trouble with ‘application’.
I might not mind having poor players on my team, but any fucker starts coasting I start to lose it big time.
I’ve said previously I’d love to spend a week around these highly paid stars and see if I can pick out what makes someone like Tommy V so determined, and someone like say Arsh blow so hot and cold.
Say what you like about Song he NEVER goes missing in an Arsenal shirt. Even ‘your cousin’ acknowledges that Song’s a trier.
November 22, 2009 at 20:39
A good thing about the schedule is that even the players who play against Liege will have five days to rest/recover before Sunday’s match with the Chavs — in contrast to the two days the midweek players had this week.
November 22, 2009 at 20:40
So guys what do you think of my lineups?
Lineup for Liege
…………………….Almunia…………………
Eboue……Senderos………..Vermy………Traore/Silvest
……………………Denilson……………………..
…..Cesc……………………………….Ramsey……..
…Theo………………..Arshavin……………….Vela…
Lineup for Chelsea
……………………….Almunia……………………
Sagna……….Gallas……………Vermy………….Gibbs
…………………….Song…………………………
…..Cesc………………………………Nasri/Diaby….
..Theo………………..Arshy…………Eddy
I would use the Liege game to experiment with Arshy as CF..
I would give Arhsy the responsibilty of the CF role..Eddy canplay on the left…..
With RVP gone..its up to Cesc and Ashy to take up the mantle…..with Theo Vela…Nasri and Rosicky contributing as well.
If Diaby is fit I would start him against Chelsea
November 22, 2009 at 20:41
traore 7!? Wow, he looked miserable
November 22, 2009 at 20:43
Whenever Bendy comes back..he should take up the CF role until RVP comes back….thats what I would do….
I would use Theo/Rosicky/Nasri on the right…
November 22, 2009 at 20:43
especially the Denilson hatrick, SS
Dare I say Eboue has contributed more to Arsenal in the past 3 years than Theo and Rosicky (combined)
November 22, 2009 at 20:44
Surprisingly good commentary on MotD. In addition to the above comments, omeone said “Arsenal aren’t good enough at the moment to play badly and win.”
November 22, 2009 at 20:45
in 07/08 we had much more fighting spirit than we do now. I wish our players believed in themselves more and worked their ass off.
Look at United when they’re chasing a game. I don’t know about you, but I always think they’ll score and they do via deflection, penalty, wondergoal, something. They always get it
November 22, 2009 at 20:47
It might be worth getting Vela at Ivanovic or whoever is playing RB for them next week, but it is risky as I think he is too lightweight at present. Maybe he just needs a good performance in a big game to get him flying.
If not Edu, with Arsh in the mid and Rosicky or Theo right. Song, Fab and either Diaby or Eboue in the middle to give us a bit of strength and running at them. If we keep it down we have a chance against their back 4, in the air we have no hope, except maybe at set pieces.
November 22, 2009 at 20:47
Man – Fuck me thats an out there shout..but you know what I’m leaning towards agreeing.
Ok maybe not quite agreeing but I 100% think its a valid question and can deffo see where you’re coming from.
Although if you’ve got a tin hat nearby I suggest you put it on now…
INCOMING !!!!
November 22, 2009 at 20:47
Sharkey, I can assure you, Geoff is not my cousin!
Song tries hard, I don’t know whether I quite share the same glowing appraisal of him.
I don’t quite see the link people have with Diaby being out the team and us losing yesterday. It’s like the people who linked our stutter earlier in the season to Denilson being out the squad… we had a bad game as a team… I don’t think anyone was to blame individually.
Chelsea lost to Wigan 3-1! It happens!
November 22, 2009 at 20:49
Man, contributed to what exactly?
A pretty unsuccessful period? I’ll grant you that…
November 22, 2009 at 20:56
Pedro,
Good dancing, comedy moments, countless debates on le grove and oh yeah some surging runs and the fantastic run to the ECL final in 2006. Eboue was part of a squad you refer to as being unsuccessful but has been out there trying more than some of our favs. Surely you can’t deny that
SS,
A night for friendly debate eh!
November 22, 2009 at 20:58
Man. That ManGoo?
November 22, 2009 at 20:59
Hi zorrO, its Man aka Mandanda
November 22, 2009 at 21:00
I don’t really see it Man… it’s a bit of an empty statement.
How do you quantify trying?
It’s merely an opinion…
I don’t really think effort is a problem with our team… it’s knowing how to see a game out, to deal with brutality and defensive mistakes.
Sharkey had a point about the bollocking… no one upholds standards when they’re dropping unless it’s by example.
Bit of a weird set up if you ask me… especially with youngsters.
November 22, 2009 at 21:01
Don’t get me wrong though… the dance was amazing.
November 22, 2009 at 21:08
hey pedro I thought you would be over here by now !
listen we wont ever lift our game
(or trophies)whilst we dont have 3 or 4 key figures still missing .
a reliable as houses ‘goal keeper ‘
(bring back vito ! )
clinical torres/villa style striker who scores every week ( yes another RVP )
a good solid option as back up CD
(thankfully TV or gallas hasnt got injured yet)
and whilst song has improved to NOT WOEFUL , he still gives it up too much and a EXPERIENCED DM
might help us stop hemorrhaging goals !
those 4 additions ,plus some good luck fitness wise and we are in with a shout .
Selection on Saturday was fine , just the players had no heart !
and further proof that consistency still is missing from the squad, you cant win anything like this !
November 22, 2009 at 21:08
Pedro, I meant he’s been less injured
November 22, 2009 at 21:11
Sunderland pulled off the shock of the women’s Premier League season by beating perennial champions Arsenal.
November 22, 2009 at 21:14
Ethan…not gonna argue with you (too much!!)…but you need to watch an Arsenal game with a few Arsenal fans who’ll point stuff out to you.
I’m stunned by anyone who still thinks that Song isn’t AT LEAST a decent player.
It just gets ridiculous when people slate him for not scoring yesterday. He was faced up by two defenders in a pincer movement and skillfully slipped it back to a guy who is one of the deadliest finishers in Europe.
How does anyone, let alone an Arsenal fan, completely ignore the fact that he set up that chance from absolutely fucking nothing after ghosting past 3 or 4 defenders.
November 22, 2009 at 21:15
Ethan you again…sorry.
You also say the players had no heart…Song had more heart than anyone, only Tommy V came close.
November 22, 2009 at 21:15
Wenger trying to extend Vela’s, Rosicky’s, and Gallas’s contracts
November 22, 2009 at 21:16
Ooops – “but you need to watch an Arsenal game with a few Arsenal fans who’ll point stuff out to you”
That doesn’t read too well doe it. I mean with someone who likes Song, and isn’t looking for his faults.
Man…loan me that tin hat will ya….
November 22, 2009 at 21:19
Man. Oh you jut mean he’s been available more..??
2006 he was brilliant. Since then to call him ‘patchy’ is being very euphemistic..but to be fair over the last 6-7mths he’s improved in a lot of areas.
He’s even won MoM’s (from Ped who doesnt like him) whilst playing out of position.
Three cheers for the Somali Pirate !!!
November 22, 2009 at 21:20
yes sharkey , if he was so good we wouldnt have had to battle it out in the midfield on Saturday
we would have dominated them .
i dont need to sit down with ANYONE to see him
cough up possession .
yes .. and you all thought ade was great too !
and it didnt matter how many fuckers you watched the game with !
November 22, 2009 at 21:25
Cyber hi five SS and you can have my tin hat too amigo…
Three cheers to the Somali Pirate!!!!
November 22, 2009 at 21:25
sharkey
i can see your a SONG lover …
he is average , over played and over rated by most AKB’s
i admit he is better … so is the whole team !
but he still isn’t great going forward ..
and still coughs up way too much possession .
and is subject to more than his far share of stray passes .
he is capable of a senderos moment every game ..
if you can over look that with all you Arsenal MATES , then fine ….
November 22, 2009 at 21:26
Man, KATG fella, cannever keep up with MG’s name!!!
November 22, 2009 at 21:29
I agree with Ethan… Song’s improvements are massively over blown.
I’m judging him by PV04 standards, Yaya or Essien… because that’s where we need to be.
I preferred Denilson sitting in that role… if he had more pace, I’d have him in their over Song.
November 22, 2009 at 21:29
… and like someone said earlier.
Wenger sees Song as a centre back!
November 22, 2009 at 21:29
zorrO what does KATG mean? I think I was here before MG not I’m sure Pedro can check that out…funny I thought SS was MG
November 22, 2009 at 21:33
Man, ManG has been here under a load of different guises… I think Spike and Angry loner were previous names?
I’m not sure who was here first, I’ll have a look!
November 22, 2009 at 21:37
Kool and the Gang!
November 22, 2009 at 21:49
that’s another funny one, Wenger sees Song as a CB but hardly plays there, so much so he spends 10m on another CB. Considering the stick he got from le grove I don’t think you can over blow Song’s ‘improvement’
November 22, 2009 at 21:51
Pedro the difference between Song, Yaya and Essien is marginal if any atm.
November 22, 2009 at 21:56
Pedro
We often talk about players like Essien and Paddy.
They are so few and far betwen though. How many midfielders are there in the prem anywhere near as good as Essien? The mancs don’t have one and they spend shitloads
November 22, 2009 at 22:31
GM, excellent point. Let’s just nip down to defensivemidfielders ‘R’ us and grab one on the cheap!
November 22, 2009 at 22:56
Song was very good again yesterday like he has been all season.
Comparing him to Essien isnt fair, Essien is one of the best midfielders in the world, Song has the potential to be as good and he’s improving constantly.
Van Persie isnt as good as Torres, does that mean he’s shit?
November 22, 2009 at 23:01
I agree with Ethan… Song’s improvements are massively over blown.
I’m judging him by PV04 standards
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even judging him by flamini standards he is no where near close !
but yes in the real world where wenger has about 20 mil at his disposal someone more like essien would be closer to the mark ,and more expected … too many people are settling for less than 100% in my view ..
if you are to believe we are as big as the board and wenger make out then we really need to have better 1st team personnel at our disposal ..
and i didnt need to sit down with a bunch of friends sharkey , i worked it out on my own
November 22, 2009 at 23:05
AA
i think if RVP stays fit he would prove to be as good as torres providing he gets the service . and can stay fit enough to maintain a run of form !
but if we are to favor the 4-4-2 we really need 2 class strikers .. once one is out .. we look fragile upfront .. Use sunderlands game as the example
2 class strikers would make us stand apart !
and my point all along has been why study the art of attacking football mr wenger when the strikers you have aren’t really upto scratch ..
November 22, 2009 at 23:06
Song is nowhere near close to Flamini?
Do me a favour.
November 22, 2009 at 23:09
Ethan you think Van p can be as good as Torres and you may well be right.
I think Song can be as good as Essien. Essien is 5 years older, in 5 years Song will be as good if not better.
Sunderland yesterday could mean we need more strikers, it could also mean we had a tough away game after a nasty international break.
Lets see what happens next week.
November 22, 2009 at 23:11
convert your chances into goals and you win …
dont do so and you will get SUNDERLAND ….
so going on that theory we need better strikers !
i hope dudu would come good but largely it hasnt worked so far for him ..
bring in vela – theo .. then you can still save the season arsene ! but not replacing ade with a quality striker will bite you in the ass soon enough !
November 22, 2009 at 23:14
Sharkey posted this above: http://theitalianview.tumblr.com/
I am shocked. WTF ?
I’ve never liked Juve but they really need to do something about this. What kinda disrespectful ignorance is that ?
November 22, 2009 at 23:15
ethan it was less than 2 months ago you were saying kalou is better than vp, now vp is as good as torres?!
we don’t need forwards in the slightest, yesterday had nothing to do with forwards, it was an inability to create the chances, rosicky, nasri, and ramsey really weren’t sharp
November 22, 2009 at 23:17
yes but do we have to wait until song is 28 (same age as essien ) or shouldn’t our club just fill the spot ASAP to get back on track …
you might call me a glory hunter !
but remember every year this club DOESNT win silverware we lose our swagger as a top flight club , those are the facts !
so either get with the program ASAP or run the chance of being like liverpool …..
has beens !
November 22, 2009 at 23:19
yes at least kalou stays fit for a season ..
its hard to judge RVP sustained form , because he cant stay fit long enough !
you know what i mean !
and id rather kalou THAN NO ONE !
November 22, 2009 at 23:22
Kreshnik, I think the problem was Fiorentina, not Juve.
Liverpool? Has beens? 5 European cups says otherwise, even though it’s nearly 20 years since a title.
November 22, 2009 at 23:22
seeing nik B play 90 minutes against the chev’s is hardly going to be wengers 1st pick !
is it ?
not in the real world !
id much prefer VILLA if you really knew anything about me at all !
and sorry there are a few strikers playing currently who look far sharper than any one of our squad ..
so your saying you’d prefer an RVP injury prone player than david villa ?
November 22, 2009 at 23:24
Manchester City defender Kolo Toure has spoken for the first time about his move from Arsenal in the summer.
The Ivorian defender left the Emirates for 18.5 million euros during the summer transfer window amid rumours he had fallen out with a team mate, thought to be French centre back William Gallas.
Toure told Eurosport: “I had hoped to finish my career at Arsenal, but there are always banana skins on the road… I had problems with some players , especially one at Arsenal. I will not say the name because I don’t want to fuel the controversy. I never tried to put obstacles in the way of anyone, I never wanted to be captain.”
The 28-year-old added: “Last season I did not receive much playing time as there was a player who told the coach that he and I did not have an understanding on the field, which surprised me enormously.”
lol does kolo really think noone could work out who he’s talking about?!
November 22, 2009 at 23:28
So how much is Villa gonna cost?
November 22, 2009 at 23:29
yes A … finally we agree on something !
November 22, 2009 at 23:34
A, you were happy with the lineup before the game. In your opinion, what went wrong?
November 22, 2009 at 23:35
zorro
wenger has made fists full of dollars on the transfer market in previous years , the cost should be irrelevant…
we made 64 mil + 11 mil in surplus transfers
so theres a start ..
but lets face it zorro its just my pipe dream due to the lack of drive the club has to be no.1
we should be after the best players in the world then wenger can make them even more quality after imparting his knowledge on them .
instead we try and turn average players into good ones !
November 22, 2009 at 23:41
Change the record Ethan.
November 22, 2009 at 23:41
Yeah SV I was very happy before the game! We just weren’t sharp though. If Fulop hadn’t made the save from Rosicky I think we would’ve walked it, but they set out very very defensively, and we just weren’t sharp enough to break them down. Cesc had some nice moments but was obviously tired, Nasri and Rosicky weren’t sharp at all, and Ramsey just wants too long on the ball all the time, moves really slow down when they get to him. Nasri, Rosicky, and Ramsey were the three players we were relying on to create, and it just didn’t happen, simple as that! Eduardo is lacking confidence in front of goal too, but once he gets a couple I reckon he’ll be back to his old clinical best. If he did and played regularly in this system I could see him getting 30 goals in a season!
It was just one of those games where it doesn’t click at all, as can happen after international breaks. The good news is that no more internationals for a while, we’ve got loads of players back who will get sharper and sharper, and I reckon we’ll give Chelsea a beating then go on from there. It’s good too that we have a nice home game on Tuesday to get us going again help get over the poor performance.
November 22, 2009 at 23:46
Team for tuesday is going to be interesting, we’ve got so many forward options! I’d like to see Vela start, but also Eduardo, to try and get him a goal, and so that they can rotate the central role both could start. Arshavin is a very likely starter too, but then Theo, Rosicky, and Nasri all need games to get match fit, and a home game would be a nice one for Ramsey to start. Maybe Cesc could get a rest, and perhaps Arshavin too before Chelsea
November 22, 2009 at 23:49
Steve Bruce said they had to make just one save in the first 5 minutes and were not under pressure since than. He did not believe it turned out to be so easy to get 3 points from Arsenal. We did have some weak individual performances, especially from Risicky and Nasri who are midfielders and not forward players, but seriously we could expect more unwillingless to lose from the wholeteam. Wenger was as close to acknowledging that the side was complacent as it can get. Sickening.
November 22, 2009 at 23:50
Song is a much better footballer than Flamini can dream of being.
Positioning:Song
Intelligence: Song
Work rate/running:Flamini
Passing:Song
Shooting:Flamini
Tackling:Song
Strength:Song
Pace:Same
Aerial ability: Song
November 22, 2009 at 23:53
Not sure it had anything to do with complacency SV! It was just a mixture of tiredness from the players who’d been on international duty, rustiness from the players just back from injury, and general disjointedness from the team as a whole, because they havn’t been training together because of internationals
I’d agree with that Pat!
November 22, 2009 at 23:59
A, defo Tuesday:
Ebway, Senderos, TV, Silvestre
Rosicky, Denilson, Vela
Theo, Edu, Vela
I would like to see the above, to give some of them a rest before the biggest game of the season so far, we can NOT give the chavs 3 points; a draw is ok, but no way can we give them a win.
November 22, 2009 at 23:59
A, it’s Arsen’s opinion, not mine: many players came from internationals and expected an easy game forgetting how difficult the PM is. Sounds childish really and shows that we are not progressing. I’m not sure I agree with you that we do not have problems with strikers. Hoping that VP stays fit, Eduardo can play the lone striker in 4-3-3 or that Bendtner is ready is a gamble. We’ve paid for that and will pay again.
November 23, 2009 at 00:01
I think my team above might be too risky mind, as it is vital we win, so we can send a reserve team to Athens in 2 weeks.
November 23, 2009 at 00:02
Vela twice, lol, what a twat!
Nasri left of mid 3 if Diaby not fit.
November 23, 2009 at 00:03
silvestre zorro?! traore will definitely play, silvestre doesn’t have a chance of coming in! You mean cesc or nasri rather than vela in the mid three?
SV i’ve not heard any wenger comments talking about complacency, poor performance etc, but not complacency. Bendtner is definitely ready, it’s a real pity he’s out now, he’s been superb centrally when played there, it’s only vp who’s kept him out. Eduardo and vela can play there too, and even arshavin, so we’ve got plenty of options. I’d prefer vela there though to eduardo, he’s better with his back to goal imo than eduardo is.
November 23, 2009 at 00:04
ah ok zorro, yeah nasri would be nice. diaby won’t be fit i don’t think? he isn’t fit for a while is he?
speaking of traore – he seemed very disciplined and much less naive defensively yesterday, very promising. If he keeps that up he’ll be our best left back imo! though that late challenge was terrible!
November 23, 2009 at 00:06
Shame that A, as Silvestre is still an option at CB to cover injuries, and he will be better with some game time under his belt! Like it or not, he is one of the options for TV and Billy.
November 23, 2009 at 00:07
yeah true zorro, but only if two players get injured! if he needs to play then stick him in rather than vermy, no way at left back!
November 23, 2009 at 00:11
A, here is the link to Wenger’s interview after the game. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8364367.stm He says we were not mentally prepared. I’ve not seen Wenger so upset after a game since our defeat to the Mancs in the second CL leg. Sobering staff.
November 23, 2009 at 00:11
I don’t trust Traore yet! If Gibbs is fit, we need to play him, as surely he will play v chavs.
November 23, 2009 at 00:12
Wenger has too much faith in these chokers. FFS, the entire Sunderland spine was missing and they still had more spine than us!
November 23, 2009 at 00:13
yeah SV, not prepared because of internationals and rustiness etc, not the same as complacency…. No team away at Sunderland would think they’re SO good that they’d exhibit complacency. We weren’t switched on, we weren’t sharp, but not because we thought it was going to be really easy
November 23, 2009 at 00:14
I do zorro, just as much as i trust gibbs anyways, if not more if he continues being more mature defensively as he was against sunderland! If that’s the case then he’s better going forward, quicker and stronger!
November 23, 2009 at 00:15
I thought we were good enough to win yesterday. The desire isn’t there imo. Towards the end, when Theo and Vela both whipped in great, low crosses into the box, no one actually slid for them. When I watch the mancs, the players attempt to slide in and tap it in, no matter how far away the ball is. Cesc and whoever else was in there didn’t do that
November 23, 2009 at 00:17
Against the Chavs:
Almunia
Sagna Gallas Verm Gibbs
Cesc Song Nasri
Theo/Rosicky Eduardo Arshavin
RVP ahead of Eduardo if the placenta crap works!
November 23, 2009 at 00:19
Have to admit I didn’t see the first half as I was playing, but I saw the 2nd and didn’t see a great deal of evidence to put Armand in front of Gibbs.
Pat, we do not have those type of strikers, and it was as frustrating as hell, when Theo put that ball across.
November 23, 2009 at 00:20
A, I think that’s exactly what Wenger said: some players after easy internationals forgot to do their best in a tough away game. An interesting observation by Lee Dixon today: this season Wenger was always able to find positives in our defeats, not this time however. I do feel for Wenger, he is let down by his players sometimes.
November 23, 2009 at 00:21
Tell you what though, Andre better get his arse into gear soon as he is looking seriously uninterested at present!
November 23, 2009 at 00:23
Arshavin has been piss poor this season. He even said so himself. He said something about Olympiacos being his only good game
November 23, 2009 at 00:25
Pat, I agree with you. Desire is an issue. Players who talk about winning the title in every interview, do not do that extra effort to win the valuable points. Sometimes I wish they just keep silent and do the job. No improvement here from the last year.
November 23, 2009 at 00:29
Untill we stat buying powerful players we will continue as we are,wenger started his reign at arsenal with that sort of players,this is the premier league not the spanish league,if we was playing in spain we would have a chance of winning the league,over here it’s all about the power,not little fucking players who have no strength about them.
November 23, 2009 at 01:11
OK, posted this on my site and wanted to share with you guys as well.
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I generally hate judging players, for good or bad mostly because in the field I have studied and work, the system/strategy/training/style/architecture affects most of the time the outcome then the players/workers/users/people
That’s “most of the time” though, and not always. There’s definitely many times that one player alone can completely affect the outcome, Maradona at Napoli, Ronaldinho at Barca, Arshavin vs Liverpool, and many more examples. The more modern soccer becomes though, the less that seems to happen.
So, in modern soccer seems that depending on which formation a team uses, certain roles are quite crucial. The DM seems one of them on a 4-3-3, and Yaya Toure was the hidden reason of Barca’s success last year. Personally I find Song to be solid so far there, and if I compare him with Yaya he seems on the path to getting better, except the pace factor. He doesn’t have Yaya’s (or even Essien’s) explosive pace and because of the way he plays he might never do. But for a fluid attacking style that it’s a given to leave gaps behind, that sometimes proves to be a crucial feature on that role. The same feature is crucial on the LB and RB and not so important on the CB’s.
So this way we can continue and analyze players according to the adopted system and find out exactly why, Hleb, Flamini etc failed after they got out of their slots. A certain DM slot on a given system might need completely different properties from the player on a different system. In my opinion Arsene Wenger is an absolute genius at this and the reason why I love watching Arsenal play even if they haven’t won much.
But the game at Sunderland also brought something to light that I have noticed quite often at least happen with teams that employ the 4-3-3, or better a fluid 4-3-3 (Milan is playing 4-3-3 these days but it’s not a fluid 4-3-3, seems more like one that interchanges between a 4-5-1 to 4-3-3 only when they’re looking to score, got actually a lot to say about that and why it’s getting them to winning ways even with so many old players)
So what it brought to light is what I call “the soccer law of entropy”. Entropy represents the “potential for disorder” in a system. In an attacking fluid system such as Arsenal’s and Barca’s when they are in possession the game usually becomes a tik-tak-tik-tak – goal, with the fluid passing also predictable and stoppable if the appropriate discipline is used. The tiks and taks are obviously the fluid passes.
On Saturday the team seemed quite solid on paper with the so called unpopular players out and with most fans super excited. But Sunderland was able to intercept the tiks and taks quite affectively and even though part of it was the affect of an international week, most of it seemed like lack of ENTROPY. We simply didn’t have unpredictable players. Such players would introduce Entropy (hopefully) without breaking the fluidity. It seems that in these systems Entropy affects less the fluidity of the system and a lot more the actual opposition which now gets another variable whose value magnifies the amount of work to be done to follow and efficiently break the fluidity. So they end up working out casual defensive methods and are not able to follow the fluidity no more.
That’s why players like Diaby, Eboue, and Bendtner and some others actually balance the team and seem to be needed if added properly to the team. Obviously many other factors also come into play as I mentioned above but these are some pieces that Wenger seems to be very aware of.
Here’s to beating Chelsea on Saturday.
November 23, 2009 at 01:24
zorro, that’s right, Fiorentina is the issue, the accident happened to Juve supporters though and it’s really sad how much ignorance those ultras are showing.
November 23, 2009 at 01:32
We won’t win the prem playing this way,we do not have the power either.Untill we get the powerful players in were on a road to nowhere
November 23, 2009 at 03:47
B.B.K we should sign Fedor and Couture
November 23, 2009 at 05:07
correct BBk 4 needed at least ..
x1 goal keeper
x1 experienced DM
x1 striker who strikes fear at any defense
x1 CD back up , fish face not good enough ..
allow who ever wenger picks will be out 50% of the time with injuries and at least we have added 2 players !
November 23, 2009 at 05:12
the problem is he wont and will keep faith in song – diaby – big Al – senderos and whom ever else that will dent his ego if he moves them on ..
we can see that choices like cesc – aa – nasri – vela are all quality .. but wenger still makes the fatal error of using the easy EPL games as a training camp for fringe players ..
whilst we drop points doing that we wont win shite .
November 23, 2009 at 06:19
Song is good enough. He bossed the midfield as much as 1 man could against Sunderland. Made Cana look foolish on several occasions.
We need a striker to cover for RVP, and a CDM to cover for Song.
Keeper could win us a few points as well
November 23, 2009 at 06:26
Diaby, Senderos, and big Al aren’t.
Denilson looked good until his injury, so I’ll wait a bit longer to judge
November 23, 2009 at 06:37
SONG > CANA ANY DAY ANYTIME…
I was dissapointed with the loss but the international break really tired our players.
We will be up against Chelsea.
November 23, 2009 at 06:42
Song was really impressive against SUnderland and the only positive. That one point when he somehow got past 3 Sunderland players, looked for his teammate(nowhere to be found), and spotted Arshavin with that floated ball to the back post. That was world class material and at this rate, he can become world class.
Its all about how much he wants it, imo. He certainly has the ability
November 23, 2009 at 07:06
song has been very very solid..infact when geoff has a go at him in the posts for no reason but his personal dislike, it’s a little unfair as it’s read by many people
and it’s funny to see how everyone is leaving rosicky out of their line-up fr chelsea.I mean what’s wrong here? the guy has barely played and whenever he has , he shows his class..jus because he had a half-decent game and missed a sitter , people start having a go at him and out of nowhere diaby becomes the one to rescue us..are fans here that partially sighted??
November 23, 2009 at 07:09
Rosicky is unique and he should start against Chelsea. His work rate is underrated and so is his ability to thread through a pass.
Almunia
Sagna Gallas Verm Gibbs
Cesc Song Diaby/Nasri
Rosicky Eduardo Arshavin
November 23, 2009 at 07:14
yep i agree n i think that actually will be the line-up unless eboue is asked to step up and mesmerize us all with his fear-inducing , earth-shattering attacking displays
November 23, 2009 at 07:21
Emperor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pm09dT2Lwg
November 23, 2009 at 07:31
pat , you ARE being sarcastic right?
November 23, 2009 at 07:32
yes, I am. hahhaha
November 23, 2009 at 07:35
Pat …What of starting with Theo Walcot instead of Rosicky
November 23, 2009 at 07:41
Not sure about that Arsenal. He’s very effective as a sub. We don’t know if he’s better or not cause he only played 1 game.
I wouldn’t rule it out though. Looks good against Blackburn and Brum,
November 23, 2009 at 08:03
Cheeky Arsenal fans have launched an audacious bid to get the Government to stop North London rivals Tottenham building a 56,000 super-stadium next to White Hart Lane.
They have launched a petition claiming the new ground will be a burden on match days to the local environment.
November 23, 2009 at 08:07
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/stan-collymore/Why-soft-centred-Arsenal-won-t-win-a-thing-until-they-get-tough-article229343.html
November 23, 2009 at 08:15
Arsene Wenger accused his strikers of “lacking desire and sharpness” as they failed to score for the first time this season.
In the absence of injured duo Robin van Persie and Nicklas Bendtner, Arsenal laboured and failed to threaten Sunderland’s defence. Eduardo, given the chance to lead the line, was particularly disappointing.
Wenger said: “Going forward we lacked sharpness, we lacked the desire to go behind defenders. We’ve chosen the easy part of the game and not exposed them with our pace in behind.
“If you want to score goals you have to go behind the defenders. We choked a little bit and chose the easy part of the game.
“Mentally it’s a blow. It’s a big disappointment because we know it was a very important game that we couldn’t afford to lose and we perhaps under-estimated how difficult it would be for us here.
“Give Sunderland credit, they defended with a lot of heart and great desire and they fought for every ball. They played it like it was a cup tie.
“We had more of the ball so they tried to stop us from playing. Sometimes they were on the fringe of the rules but that’s part of the game.”
Next up for Arsenal in the Premier League are Chelsea, but Wenger said: “It’s important to win the next game – that is in the Champions League – and to forget about Chelsea.”
November 23, 2009 at 09:10
It’s quiet here. No doubt Sabeel will turn up for the new post though.
November 23, 2009 at 09:11
F5 – Our best friend
November 23, 2009 at 09:13
Yes, bnsb, how many fingers are poised over that button, with right-click-paste to follow ?
November 23, 2009 at 09:14
If so why are here on yesterdays post?
November 23, 2009 at 09:15
Four hundred, is it?
November 23, 2009 at 09:16
WaitIng for Pedro to say “NEW POST!”
November 23, 2009 at 09:16
no post yet. Sabeel your hand must be dropping off
November 23, 2009 at 09:16
I’ve written it!
November 23, 2009 at 09:16
off to work see you (and the post) later
November 23, 2009 at 09:18
So fire and brimstones it is.
November 23, 2009 at 09:19
Ok I can’t wait, new post!
November 23, 2009 at 14:29
The Gunners need a dude who can punish the back of the net. This is Arsenal’s lack. The Gunners huge problem.http://bobbygee.wordpress.com/
November 24, 2009 at 08:43
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November 24, 2009 at 08:53
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