Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen is taking the Henry incident up with French President Nicolas Sarkozy and calling on him to arrange a replay of the game.
Brian mate, football and the World Cup is not run by you or the French President, it’s run by FIFA, the rules of football say the referees word is final, that’s what makes football, football, there are no appeals, England didn’t get one in 1986, Germany didn’t get one in ’66 and you aren’t getting one now.
I’m not condoning what happened, Thierry cheated, simple, but as UEFA found out with the Eduardo penalty, if you punished football by video, you would be punishing almost every team in world football every week, every one’s at it, where does it stop?
I think gaining yards at throw-ons is cheating, faking injury is cheating, accepting free kicks and corners when you know they aren’t yours, is cheating, time wasting is cheating, each time a team lost you would have to wait a week whilst a panel went through the game to see who cheated before any points were awarded.
Ireland had two years to qualify for the World cup, not 30 minutes of extra time, it’s over, they’re out, it’s time to move on, if FIFA gave them what they wanted, football as we know it would be finished.
I do believe that bringing in replays like they have in rugby would solve it, it wouldn’t take long, it may even make it more exciting and it would eradicate cheating because they would get caught there and then. Until they do though, we have to live with it.
Mr Ahern (Irish Justice minister), it’s not called soccer, that what the Americans call it, and they got that from the Aussies. We call it football. If you feel really bad about cheating, why don’t you go back and retrospectively punish Tony Cascarino, the wife beating cheat that got into your football teams in 1990 and 1994.
This was in Wikipedia, take a look, it may open your eyes a tad.
However, in contrast to Mick McCarthy and many others who wore the Ireland shirt before visiting the Emerald Isle, Cascarino has openly admitted that he had no right to play for Jack Charlton’s men.
‘I didn’t qualify for Ireland. I was a fraud – a fake Irishman’ he admitted in ‘Full Time – The Secret Life Of Tony Cascarino’.
He was also arrested and bailed in December 2008 for beating up his ex Virginie, just like that other woman beater Stan Collymore, boy Talk Shite know how to recruit don’t they.
So what qualifies you to call Thierry Henry a cheat? And what qualifies Brian Cowen? It’s only cheating when someone does it to you eh?
Time to move on, you’ve been tumbled. Yes it wasn’t fair but that’s life. Let’s just hope this swiftly moves on because it’s getting out of hand and for some reason it seems to be Arsenal’s Thierry Henry, not Barcelona’s, and now Liam Brady has had a pop it seems that the love affair with Arsenal is now over, and thats a shame, I was looking forward to him coming back as manager.
But being lectured by a woman beater get me, blokes who hit women are cowards, Collymore and Cascarino are two of the worst examples of humankind out there and one of them is lecturing the great Thierry Henry.
I don’t remember the Maradona handball causing so much revulsion. Then he didn’t play for Arsenal, did he?
Tomorrow we play Sunderland, I’m looking forward to it, it should show us if we have the squad to challenge, all the ingredients are there, we lose key players, we play away up north in the cold and rain against a big team and finally it’s international week.
That’s a perfect storm, don’t you think?
Have a great day Grovers, one more day to go and we can watch the Arsenal again!
P.S. If anyone has spares in club level for stoke, I know a man who wants them! All other spares welcome! Oh and check out this video for a Friday laugh, many thank Pat!








There is no sanity clause Raddy!
Fuck me we’re old.
great though eh
GM. I think I am about 5 years older than you. I was born in the year of QE2′s coronation
Mayank;
Erm, not sure i agree with that. This screwing over people, just leads to people becoming more hard faced and not give a fuck about anyone…
No one gives a shit about anyone as it is, most of the time…
The best.
Duck Soup, Horse Feathers Night at the Opera. Just pure genius & no-one gets killed
Dead right then Raddy. I was born the year they built the Tokyo tower
and the year My old Dutch opened
I agree Raddy.
Back later people.
MG.
To be serious (which is difficult for me, being a born piss taker). It hasn’t always been like this.
I firmly believe that at base people are good. They have the common interest at heart. Hence we are able to live in communities that are run by the moral codes established thousands of years ago. (12 Commandments etc)
It is only in recent years that we have seen a breakdown of this, and I blame Margaret Thatcher who started the Me Generation.
Enough of this. I prefer the smutty stuff….
Christ I need a game. Really looking forward to tomorrow ( Oh dear, more blasphemy)
Big Raddy
I would actually say the opposite
Attilla the Hun, Hitler, Alex Ferguson the list is endless. the good have always been a minority (me and you)
I didn’t notice we have some players back.
Almunia
Eboue Gallas Verm Silvestre
Cesc Denilson Nasri
Theo Eduardo Rosicky
Arshavin on the bench or in place of Theo. Song cannot be risked cause he’s a yellow card away from suspension…and he’s needed for CHelsea.
Nasri is good defensively and offensively so he can help out Denilson, who isn’t as good as Song, and Fabregas offensively
We’re going to spank those naughty mackams Raddy. Smutty enough?
Where are all the haters. David, Jaguar and Jimbo
Great news that we have so many players back today.
For my team it would be
———————-Almunia
Eboue——–Senderos—–Verminator——–Silvestre
—————-Song———————
——–Cesc———–Nasri
Rosicky———-Eduardo———Vela——-
Sendy cuz Wenger siad Gallas maybe tired, notbecause I rate him at all.
It’s a good start GM.
You’re right we need some BBK dust to bring a damper on all this positivity
Zeus. That is a very attacking team, and I would be surprised to see AW play such an open game away to dangerous opponents
I think we will play one up front tomorrow
@ Big Raddy
I know its very attacking, but with Diaby out that only leaves Denilson to partner Song an act as a double anchor in front the back four. After 9 weeks out would Wenger really play Denilson from the start.
And BTW I think the best Duo to protect Cesc from too much defensive work is Denilson and Song.
Evening all…Nasri and Rosicky are sure starters, the are fresh,
also in goalscoring form is eboue,
Eddie should start as well and I will we will see silvestre making his league debut this season.
Denilson could partner Fab in midfield, not sure if song will start.
*think we
Will I do Michael, I hate everyone including hippies!
Big R;
I agree (about the Me generation thing and Thatcher n all) My mum despised that old bitch!
I’m going for
Fabianski
Sagna Gallas Vermaelen Traore
Cesc Song Nasri
Rosicky Eduardo Vela
Effin wankers at vital football ManU site, calling henry a cunt… Who the fuck are these twats? Are they all Paddies?
I called you a hippy earlier Geoaff! I meant the Arsenal players/ manager haters.
I like BBK he cheers me up funny enough and he’s consistant with a sense of humour.
Geoff don’t know where the “a” came from
Quality team there A. Not sure about Traore’s inclusion…
Gallas is to be rested A so Senderos will probably start next to Vermaelen.
I think he may play tweety pie A
I think Traore might as well leave if he can’t get a game ahead of silvest!
Mang I’m fine with Traore, don’t see much difference between him and Gibbs tbh! Stronger and quicker but not as intelligent, overall more or less evens itself out for me. Wenger said he was the understudy to Gibbs and he’s been training since the Thursday before the Wolves game along with Vela so I’d be very surprised if he didn’t start
oh ok stu, didn’t know that. Yeah sendy if that’s the case, though Gallas has always played tired in the past! I was thinking he could be rested midweek, along with Cesc
How did Thatcher go against the common self interest?
oh not seen that fabianski isn’t 100%, almunia will play then i guess!
Traore is shite a defending. Gibbs may not be great either but he is much better at nipping in to win the ball and doesnt get beaten 1v1 a lot (that i remember). Traore ball watches too much.
Who plays right midfield for sunderland? Malbranque?
Silvestre shits all over Traore when it comes to defending and I don’t see Traore getting anywhere near Silvetre’s level at LB
I think, malbranque has been a good buy for sunderland, he will have a field day if traore plays!
I’d say that’s an exageration Stu, Gibbs is better one on one, and at reading the game, but Traore is exceptional at getting back when he’s beaten, got a very good recovery on him.
Yeah Malbranque Stu, he does damage drifting inside though rather than getting down the outside, I’d be happy with Traore up against him!
Traore isnt all that bad.. his pace makes up for a lot of his shortcomings.. isnt he the quickest player at the club after Walcott?
will ardshavin be rested?
Traore may be really fast but i wouldnt be happy with him having to recover all the time. He would eventually get tired and switching off once could cost us a goal.
Yep traore is quite fast, but still not good enough a defender.
Arsh could be rested, we have nasri, rosicky, and vela who could all do a job on the left.
http://www.jeu-de-main.com/
lol. Henry GIF game
Stu Kolo built one hell of a defensive career based on recovery pace, many have! I’m happy with him at left back, feel he’s no weaker defensively overall than Gibbs.
Listening to the press conference I don’t see Gallas being rested, I didn’t interpret him saying he and Sagna played 120 minutes as them needing to be rested
Sagna might be rested and Eboue will play I think what with his great goalscoring form.
Hehe.. eboue not so sure but his other parts are in goalscoring form
I fancy a Samir Nasri brace and a Rosicky thunderbolt in a 3-0 hammering of SUnderland. You heard it here first.
szczesny gone on loan – didn’t realise, should be good for him, hopefully extend it in january for the rest of the season
I would’ve rather seen Mannone go on loan but with Fabianski’s injury problems……
I saw it Michael, that was why I responded! I don’t really hate hippies!
why Rohan? i don’t think Mannone will ever make it, so happy for him to stay in the reserves and be there as third choice. Got really high hopes for Szczesny so the earlier he’s playing games regularly and developing the better!
Hey Mayank..
Sorry missed your message earlier…Very busy with office work…
which site ru talking abt,the one which highlights with ur name ???
Its 12.30am here..catch u all guys soon..
Very important day tomorrow
as the post rightly says…so many odds stacked against us tomorrow…
we really will know..how capable our squad is..
and winning league is all about “win capable squads”
my team would be
———-almunia———-
eboue–Gallas–verm–Traore
————song———–
——-cesc——ramsey—-
rosicky—-eduaudo—-nasri
Ashavin and Walcott as impact subs if required
ouuuuuu can’t wait for tomorow
4 pts. from the next 2 games would be very respectable. 6 would be terrific
well gallas , sagna n arsh are being rested so i think this is gonna be our strtin team -
eboue senderos vermaelen silvestre
cesc denilson nasri
rosicky eduardo vela
maybe song for denilson
We’ve got no idea who’s being rested Emperor! Wenger said that Traore was understudy for Gibbs, so it’d be very weird if Wenger played Silvestre over him.
I like that front three, hope it happens.
A , wengers emphasized about galls n sagna playin 120 min , so i dont think they’re gonna start..arshavin might though
maybe even gallas but i really cant see sagna playing this game
one of gallas and sagna will defo start imo
i seriosuly can’t wait for this game..for once diaby isnt there to disturb that beautifyl build up and no matter whom we play ( barring eboue upfront or wing) , is capablle of playing the arsenal way..i’m tellin ya tomorows gonna be a treat
I wouldn’t say he emphasised, he was just asked whether there were any more injuries from the players who he hadn’t seen yet when he spoke to the press the day before, and he just said gallas and sagna are obviously tired after playing 120 minutes, and arshavin is disappointed. Didn’t sound to me like he was saying they’re gonna necessarily be rested, I’d be surprised if they are as they can get a rest midweek and it’s an important game, Eboue played on weds too, so not as if he’s totally fresh. With the forwards though Vela and Rosicky are totally fresh, so I reckon Arshavin could have a rest.
yep..k..maybe..we’ll see
if Traore is our 3rd choice left back, and cant get a game in these circumstances then there is no point in having him at the club.
I would like to see ramsey start ahead of denilson, as our box-box midfielder. He gives us more going forward and is also quite tenacious.
Very very testing conditions. If we come out of this with 3 points, i believe in this team winning some silverware.
Conti..
and believe in Arsene Wenger.
thank heavens jones is suspended..he cudve been quite a worry with his height n built
sunderlands whole spine is missing; Gordon, Turner, Cattermole, Jones
Rather odd that Barca and Pep Guardishitla arent standing up for Henry.
I’m off home to play mario
Catch you later
Hope Eduardo gets on the scoresheet tomorrow!!
As do I reggie! Along with Vela, Rosicky, and a Traore screamer
Are you going for a 4-0 then A!!
Nah Reggie, we’ll get more than 4 – those are just the definite scorers, Vela and Eduardo could get a brace each rather than just the one, Cesc, Nasri, or Theo could score too, or Arshavin off the bench! Vermaelen hasn’t scored a goal for a while, he’s due one, Gallas likewise!
hello all
yo
I just feel as soon as Eduardo gets a proper goal we will see him return to his most clinical best !
Here’s hoping!!
I think Gallas will play. He’s a CB and could just limit how much he goes forward. Sagna was a standout player for France along with Evra and Lloris. Those 3 got the highest rankings in that game
Watching ArsenalTV. Pants …..
Is Tom Watt still on it Raddy?
He will be . Right now an interview with Stewart Robson and Martin Hayes. Then a one to one with Neil Banfield.
Followed by a fans call-in with Tom Watt
Unbounded Joy
Great goal there eboue against the germans!
thank you it was a great goal
Finally after millions of words written on the henry handball, here’s a refreshingly fair and honest blog ..
http://community.foxsports.com/BobbyMcMahon/blog/
Important game for Eduardo tomorrow. He has to take responsibility and lead from the front.
He has always been the no 2 striker, but not the main man. Time for him to step up.
Roy keane is a legend.
Listen to what he says about Henry….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMHwCbbG6WY&feature=player_embedded#
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf9fx4ipF4Q&feature=player_embedded
Haha Roy Keane what a fucking G.
What the fuck was that penalty???
Cheatin fecking Oirish twats! Where was the media outcry??? The 1000s of super slo mo’s on SSN and the constant stream of fake cockney georgians saying Robbie Keane is a cheating c*nt?
Lol.. i didn’t know that happened!
Karma?
Fake cockney=Mockney
Antonio Kazcarinov
Yes indeed where were they?
Ireland went on to win that game 2-1. Where was the Georgian FA demanding a replay?
That Ireland’s karma hitting them in the face against France.
Good riddance they are out!
Well Done Henry! Bravo.
Bobby Mcmahon continues to be a class act. Someone I regularly tune in to read along with Tim Vickery of the bbc the best two bloggers alive IMHO.
At the start of the season when everyone panned us, Bobby went out on a limb and predicted Arsenal finishing the seasopn as Champions. I like most thought he was having a laugh, but his reasoning throughout seemed to make sense now even though I didn’t believe in it at the time.
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/9929724#arsenal
I have seen 2 different comments from ex Irish pros, proper ones too!¬ Cunningham and Keane, not to mention all the managers and they have all spoke rationally about it and called it how they saw it; Instinct, all players wouldve done it, etc…
The ONLY cunts going on and on about henry are; Agenda driven hacks, fake paddy ex players and twatty blogs… Oh and the burnley keeper! Now I am gonna give that cunt some stick when we go to Burnley soon… Can’t wait!
zeus;
I am normally really positive before the season starts… Last season, however, I did not see us doing anything…And we all know what happened.
This summer, I wanted the 2 extra signings that most seemed to agree we needed, but, I still had a lot of confidence in the squad and felt we would challenge… Hopefully we can…
I thing Andy gray is the ONLY other pundit who rated us and our chances….
That Burnley keeper- Brian Jensen slated Henry as a cheat….
Didn’t anyone see him cheat against Wigan?
He faked an injury after conceding a nightmare goal…. I call that CHEATING!!!
andy gray?! i don’t remember him rating us – the bloke is a complete tool! I don’t remember a single pundit rating us in fact??
A;
Are you calling me a liar and a cheat???
He said it before the season started A….
@ A
Bobby Mcmahon gave us a chance. He predicted us champions.
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/9929724#arsenal
really mang?! craziness, swear he’s never gotten anything right when it comes to footballing matters before, i’m a tad less optimistic if that’s the case!
and he’s a fox blokey zeus, another reason to be pessimistic!
I never liked Roy Keane but I’ve just watched his interview. Fucking brilliant. Don’t think he’ll be Ireland manager for a while.
A
Andy gray was one of the few who said we’d do well. He is in fact a complete tool though.
Didn’t realise you’d all gone
No one rated us at the start of the season,and still every one is writing us off? 2 horse race chavs & mancs the media keep saying and long may it continue becos when we snatch from them the feeling is gonna be orgasmic!!
it….
Oh dont get me wrong A, Gray fancies the chavs or mancs to win it, he just said we wouldnt be relegated is all!
Fat Frank has gone to try the placenta treatment apparently.
Jon Terry tried it as well
he asked for large fries and a chocolate milkshake
went down a treat!
Geoff
Where does it say we invented the word soccer? You lot invented that word.
Paradoxally, the origin of the word soccer comes from…you guessed, England. But in order to fully understand what I’m talking about, keep reading ahead.
The term “soccer” appeared shortly after, being an abbreviation from “Football Association” (from assoc.) and although not as heavily used as soccer, it was a short, light form to describe the phenomenon.
Reportedly, the man who stands at the origin of the word soccer is Charles Wreford Brown, an Oxford student who always preferred shortened versions of words, such as brekkers for breakfast, or rugger for rugby.
How come all the hacks and pundits are only now goin on about our injuries to key players? I have seen quotes from these luminaries about this being the 1st test of our squad etc?
We have had major injuries to key players all season, i fact, if anything the injuries are just about looking manageable instead of critical!
How lazy are these effin twats?
Regardless of who invented it the game is still called football, and only Americans and weirdos call it soccer!
but Gnarley, brekkers and rugger aint shorter versions of the original words fella! Just posh twat versions!
A;
True and I have issues with people saying footy as well… But I am getting help for that….
nowt wrong with footy mang! use that myself, though i am a posh twat….
Mangoon
;luminaries excellent word haha!!
I thought Roy Keane was hilarious today and I do agree with a lot of what he was saying. Personally i have been amazed at some of the comments I have heard about that incident and have been more than surprised at some of my friend’s views. It seems to me that the British are susceptible to a condition similar to mass hysteria rather like the wave of emotion that swept the country when Princess Diana died. Yes that was enormously sad and the handball was certainly unfair but, as Roy Keane says, cheating is embedded in football and Robbie Keane and his Irish team-mates do it as much as anybody else. To replay the game would be crazy but I understand that people are calling for it as a kind of clear-the-air solution. There will be much cheating this weekend in all games but I guarantee none will be replayed because of it. As Roy Keane says, “It happens, get on with it”.
Reggie reg;
Haha! I liked it!!
So, does the A stand for Agamemnon, Aristotle, Archimedes, Aramis then???
And did Public school scar you as it has done for soooo many Tory MPs???
Made me laugh anyway!!
Mangoon the A stands for arsene its obvious init!
Lou;
TV aint called Opium for the masses for nothing is it!
re sooooo easily lead and their opinions swayed by a procession of talkin heads on a TV screen, it is scary! They get their opinions from these dullards soooo fast it never ceases to amaze.
The WMDs, Princess Diana, henry, hating foreigners, voting on X factor… You name it, these gullible consumer pods will lap up anything the big flat screen i the corner of the room tells em…. Scu
Fuck that A
Canadians call it soccer (not me though) as well or have you just lumped us in the Weirdo bin…
5-0 to the Arsenal
ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
If we lose tomorrow we are going to have an armageddon style slating in the “free” press.
we’d better fucking win.
MG
That was an extract from me googling “who invented the word soccer” In all honesty I though the posh lot called rugby Rah Rah
Geoff always has a pot shot @ us Ozzies, & I can’t for the life of me understand why
Canadians are just wannabe Americans jlp
Just like if it was an ozzie thing and some kiwis were saying it!
so the secrets out then…. tired of living that lie anyway
I think Sunderland away is tuff game to get right after the break but feel we have enough to beat them soundly
Whatever happens, we are winning this effin league this season…. It is soooo clear to me….
Gnarley;
You stick around long enough, geoff will get round to slating you!
Nuns, pregnant ladies, small animals, you name it!
Mangoo
must be all those ohms you been tossing around lately…
might be bringin you closer to clarity and truth
mind you …you were a little shabby towards Ed a little earlier
i hope you didn’t fuck that up;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1txSMsmrJY
Arsenal is playing in 12 hours. 7 of which i will be drunk for, and for 5 ill be asleep. Hate international breaks.
FORMATION FOR THE GAME:
————ALMUNIA—————–
SAGNA—–SENDEROS—VERM–Silvestre
——-Fabregas—Song—-Ramsey—-
—–Nasri—-Eduardo—-Rosicky—-
Bench: Gallas, Arshavin, Walcott, Denilson, Mannone, Traore, Eboue
Gooooood Mooooorning Goooooners.
We are back in the saddle today.
Screw internationals, hand balls, placenta treatments, edmond, politics, anything and everything not Arsenal. 3-1 to the good guys.
(Roy Keanes interview was VERY classy).
I dont give a rats arse who plays or where. Dont need no DM. We are against a weak Sunderland team, so lets just rip them to shreds. It will make no difference whether we play Nas up left or centre M, or Ros left or right, or AA central or Eddie, or Song or Den or neither, either or both. As far as I’m concerned you can stick Verm up front. Oh and why not play without a goalie. Now that would be very classy.
We are going to win and thats it.
Attack, attack, attack.
Love the optimism Mickey but they aint a weak team, only chelsea haave done them at home so far this season.
We can do it but this is a long way from an easy game.
Morning AA23. I’m just one of those people who wake up each day thinking everything is possible. Then, with each passing coffee, I settle down to reality. You see already I would settle for 1-0 and think we def. need a DM. Boring being real!
I still cant quite believe that both Theo and Ros are available
LADIES… we have Walcott, Rosicky, Nasri and Arshavin ALL available for the first time this season. Lets get ready to Rumble!
IMO
This is the biggest game of the season so far, a must 3 points. Sunderland are going to be tough to topple.
Kinda agree gnarley. We do need to settle back into our rhythm and winning ways straight away after Int’l week. Must avoid a bad Nov. Although we should not underestimate Sunderland, they are without key players, so we SHOULD win at a canter.
Agree GG9.But sunderland are missing turner,jones and cattermole.I hope we have a real go at them.
Gnarley: you are a Charlie fan, yes? Is there video footage anywhere of his ‘V’-sign gesture towards Derby fans. Legend!
nishanth: we only know one way, and that is to have a go. Attack, attack. The danger is always that this team can have sloppy arrogant days when passes go astray, the movement is not there and a lack of tackling back. Dont want to be pessimistic here after my earlier great start, but while people on here constantly talk about needing this and that kind of player, if we lack anything, it is a strong leader who would never let that complacency creep in. You know, Tony Adams/Roy Keane leader type.