There are many things I find crap about international week.
1) The fact the comments section seems to turn into a warzone almost immediately. Bloggers take time out to really hammer home their dislikes, their beliefs and it all becomes a bit personal a bit too quickly.
2) The fact that I reckon only about 10% of football fans actually support international football these days. Lets be honest, watching England is for Championship supporters… it gives your every day civilian in the UK the chance to go down the pub, get a little rowdy and maybe have a fight with a few of the local strawberry pickers.
3) You notice that David Beckham has changed his hair cut to look like yours, I don’t think I need to elaborate on how horrific that is for someone older than 14.
4) You find yourself actually clicking the links to the Daily Mirror website and reading articles that state David N’gog’s dive should have been against Arsenal for moral equilibrium to be restored in the world, or other fascinating snippets, like the woman driving the car Cudicini crashed into was an Arsenal fan, like a man smashing his pelvis to pieces is supposed to have somesort of humourous edge to it. Real piss poor journalism manages to get hits. The Daily Mirror, bar Steve Stammers, really is the toilet of the news arena.
5) Barcelona tell Arsenal they’d like to marry their wife, but it would be too disrespectful to talk about it in public. Apparently he is pretty ‘cule’. I’m not really sure what that means, but it seems to me it could be the word ‘cool’ phonetically spelt in scouse. I can’t be bothered to google it, so it’ll have to sit on the pile of other unsolved mysteries I’ve got stacking up (why don’t McDonald’s serve mayonnaise? Has a mobile phone ever exploded someone’s pacemaker in a hospital? When was the last time a Nintendo game boy fell a plane?).
I hope today’s post has spread a little joy into your life… I’m off to baracade my back door. The river that is flowing through my garden is looking slightly menacing!
See you in the comments!
P.S. If you have any spares, send them my way. I’ve got loads of takers!
Le Grove is now smart phone compatible!
Pedro
Geoff
hi..tuning in from slow home connection
numero cuujjjoooo
2nd
3rd
4th
SOMEBODY STOP ME!
6th?
7th
well…there is something really to look forward to…today…that is…we look forward,that we dont have ANY injuries,inshallah…
8th
Ladygooner…
once..i have had TOP-10 straight here
morning all…i wonder who was the author of the post 2day? yes interlull is awful. hopeing to catch highlights of all the qualifiers and friendlies somewhere, somehow
as usual the podium misses me,if i am not dere
Great post. The mirror article was really sad. The cudicini one is a bit sick as well. Then again most football journalists are fucking guttersnipe trailer trash filth. Jeff winter is an absolute manc loving cunt. They really make me fucking sick. I’d happily kill most of them if I could get away with it.
Glad I got that off my chest
salam Sabeel !
well..we should NOT have injuries..that is something to look forward to…seriously
Salaam KM
Its too early
id be better waking up at like 21st or something
by how many would england lose by if we played them
lol GM
a lot of the media i find are anti-arsenal and they love ManU/Chelsea….no idea why?
newsnow arsenal is the same as y’day….so not much to read….except the guardian
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/new_anti_smoking_ads_warn_teens
They could cut it out with video technology. The obvious reason they don’t use it is because it would be harder to fix matches. Fifa and Uefa are corrupt probably the fa too.
Cuducini should have saved his bike crash to run over some of those cunts
apparently ManU are interested in Chamakh !?!
PEDRO- Totally agree with you about barca. They’re a bunch of cu*nts! I wish Arsenal would do something because they piss all over us when they want our players. We need to grow a pair and stop taking crap from these clubs that think they’re better than us. In their eyes were a ‘small club’ who they can bully. I especially hate that idiot chairmam juan laporta, what a cock!
Pedro and Geoff
I really sympathize with u guys,for the frustration u guys have to endure,during periods such as these….
well at least fat frank has strained his sphincta muscle. There sometimes is a silver lining.
Nice post Pedro, the Cudicini thing makes me laugh, he fractured his wrists, I smashed mine to bit and was on a golf course 5 weeks later.
You would think he broke 11 ribs the way the media is playing it.
I’ve got a novel idea, why not keep playing the EPL games through it, if you have 11 players that are called away, tough shit.
SABEEL- You are my idol
Pedro
That ad looks funny but I can’t hear it (unless I make all my clients watch it) is it real?
I have a feeling that Drogba, Terry and Fat Frank are not entirely telling the truth and all 3 will be available for the Arsenal match!….
I hope Brazil show England and the English FA how to play football….not the crap we are forced to watch whenever i’v watched England play for the last decade! England have the players to play intelligent/attractive/ good football but they seem to bottle it (like Chelsea did when they played ManU) when they play against a difficult/technical opponent….however i must say that under Capello they have a decent chance.
I think Spain will beat Argentina…not by a big score maybe 1-0 or 2-0. also i’v read a lot that Messi is not the player he is for Argentina that he is for Barca…strange?
LadyGooner I take off my cap to you, using the c word a minute after 10. I like it, I’m just never that aggressive in the morning.
Unless some cu*nt does not put sugar in my tea
GEOFF- Come on man, give Cudicini a break. It sounds a lot worse than just fractured wrists, not to belittle your injury. You don’t know how bad the fractures were. Plus he broke/shattered his pelvis. I don’t think the media are over-playing it
Kenya
i agree with u m8. they’l be back for the Arsenal match….lying bastards
KM
The real heroes that they are, will play through pain barrier for the sake of their club and fans.
Lady, a fracture isn’t even a proper break, I broke mine in 7 places and kept writing the blog, I bet he’s in hospital for 3 months.
Don’t decry my heroism, I deserve some kind of honour, or some money.
I hope they do bnsb, I want us to beat their first team.
Sabeel at this rate youll probably pass away pressing F5
great read, Pedro
what a fucking knob this Reade is – how exactly were Celtic stripped of victory?
ladygooner
all d best
Geoff your medal’s in the post.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/nov/13/carlos-tevez-considers-retirement-world-cup
tevez wants to retire – shocking!
Mr B
I am sure his keyboard conks every third day.
haha Mr B
i will still blog first here,even after i pass away
the kiwis are in the world cup!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/nov/14/jose-mourinho-england-return
i think he might come back to England if the ManU job is available…even ManCity/L’pool
the spirit of Sabeel Indian Gooner says:
First
LadyGooner – The way you speak, are you French?
Mark my words Goonerzzz we need another striker, if anything happens to RVP we are a little short.
I think everyone should watch France vs Ireland and scout our new player.
Arsenal NEED sign GIGNAC. The greatest footballeur in Ligue Une.
Thanks Michael! What about the cheque?
NEW ZEALaND 1 Bahrain 0
GM
awesome man, well put
KM
Looks desperate, would even manage Hull
It’s in the same envelope Geoff. Those thieving lazy posties
speaking of pressing the f5 button,goeff,have you thought about having a comments section that refreshes itself
Babel already dived against Arsenal, we dont need Ngog doing it as well. Whoever wrote that report is a tosser.
GM, it’s a spoof sketch… as long as homophobia skits aren’t offensive, you should play it! haha!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/nov/13/world-cup-play-offs
the bosnia v portugal will be interesting. will be watching that to see if Dzeko can nick a goal or two
GEOFF- Haha, Im decrying your incredible heroism
, I’m just saying I think your assessment of Cudicini’s injuries isn’t really fair since no one knows the full extent of them. And I don’t think the surgery to his wrists is what’s going to keep in hospital for so long. Sounds more like the broken pelvis is the most serious. Police described his injuries as ‘life changing’. A serious pelvic injury could have major consequences i.e not being able to walk properly or at all again
Pedro i just saw beckham in the MLS super semi or whatever tosh it’s called and if you have a matching skunk mullet then you need to get yourself down to a barber and have the whole lot removed, it’s horrific.
I was thinking the grovers need some sort of challenge during the interlull to spark positive discussion or else it descends back to old debates about marmite players. I was thinking like top 5′s or how about best arsenal 11 past and present when you can only name one player from each country? stimulate the mind and lets us rememeber our glorious past.
Just seen beckhams new hair That’s what we call in the trade a stupid clueless cunt.
Pedro LMFAO
Goonermichael the onion is a parody of news and it is all made up.
GEOFF- Sorry, meant to say Im NOT decrying your heroics
I’ll watch it when I get home. I don’t get offended by homophobic stuff. I know so many gay fascists who think the whole world should just cater to their need. You can’t get away from them in hairdressing
Barca are cuule…They have some cuule players
We are after one of them actually, dont u think its cuule??/
Geoff, love your idea re: the Internationals, just like in Rugby they play on and it brings more of a level feel for the bottom half!
and sp*rs would still be shit as their players all get called up to ride the pine
If Beckham hadn’t been a footballer he would have been a hairdresser.
Geoff from what i hear about your wrist injury,it was just repetitive strain from knocking one out whilst watching videos of Alex Song
Spur are the Villa of last year Gunner8..
I waiting for the moment they start deflating…Its going to be Cuule
Goonermichel… Beckham is a hairdresser disguised as a footballer…he’s cuule
Lady I knew what you meant!
Gunner8 I may write a post on it next week.
Paul sorry mate, it was my left hand!
I could not resist the temptation to wiki Cuule dudes..It means Arse…So I guess Cesc will not be within the family!!!!
….It was during these early years, in these stadiums, that Barça fans acquired their nickname, the Culers (pronounced /kuˈlɛs/). Roughly translated from Catalan, it means arse people. Far from being offensive, the name refers to fans seated in the highest row of the stadium. From outside, people who passed by could only see their arses. Barça fans have been referred to as Culers ever since. In Spanish, this word is written as culés, and sometimes it is also written like this in English.
boring 2day…..
arsenal team if match was played today without international players
almunia
eboue silvestre ayling traore
eastmond song coquelin
sunu watt merida
can’t find an ivory coast or cameroon game.
Assuming merida and traore could play today as their u21 teams don’t play till tuesday
Geoff, Am off to the beach mate…after a good work out..
Your among the rare sites I surf along with a Cultured left foot.. Try to make it a bit more interesting during the break….. Can you try to get interviews from family of players, and things like that.. we get to know our players a bit more
Like the other day AW mentioned Cesc used to stay with adopted parent when he came to London and move around in a R5..So what about a few words from that lady??
you could add lansbury, simpson and JET to that team as i assume we wouldn’t loan them out if we knew they’d be needed in international weeks.
just noticed rosicky will no doubt be busting his ass for a full 90 in the heat of abu dabi as the czechs play UAE. pointless game!
GM, didn’t see the back… my hair is shaved the whole way round the back.
Surely he is getting too old for all these silly barnet chop… can’t believe the cunt didn’t go bald, I will be by then! haha!
Cheers for the Spanish Vocab update… so Cesc has the type of ass Barca are after? Very seductive…
I’m off out to get my head shaved! Play nice and no homophobia…
Play nice and no homophobia…
KM I didn’t realise you were gay, I’ll remove it immediately. Sorry for offending you.
I didn’t think Muslims were allowed to be gay???
I would normally agree with you about International break, but tonight its a little different, I’m Croke Park bound this evening for Ireland Vs France, can’t wait, meeting in a little pub around half 4 today, for some creamy pints of Guinness. (the Grave Diggers pub, best pint of Guinness in Dublin, well on the norhtside) then about half 6 or 7 move a little closer to the Ground, then kick off at 8pm. Hopefully we can get a result against the French to take over to Paris. okay the football won’t be any where near as good as watchin the Gooners, but watching Ireland on home soil in a world cup play off the atmosphere will make up for it. The place will be f**king mental. If Arsenal win something next year and Ireland qualify it will make my summer. C’mon the Gooners C’MON IRELAND,,,
I’m kidding of course, I won’t remove it, it’s funny!
International football can fuck off and suck it’s own puss ridden cock….
lmfao Geoff
That’s what I meant to say Dennis.
I do agree, I am neutral to the whole idea of international footie so have decided to support Switzerland… …drums please!
What is Imfao Gunner8?
laughed my fucking ass off, I thought it was amusing, but then again I am not feeling too great today!
I dont remember there being this many comments when its not interlull lmao clearly soccer fans are bored. Good reading though. Is it safe to say that arsenal can be nicknamed Culenal? Cuuuuule!
G’morning all. Yet another boring international break to endure, oh well at least we do so knowing the team are in a fantastic position, ready to pounce into top spot. According to the press stories chelski could be without Drogba, Ashley Cole, Jose Bosingwa and Frank Lampard for 3 weeks minimum.
geoffrey
u crack good jokes for a old fart.
ur a funny old bastard aint u …. haha
really bored that there is no footie on today and I can’t see the rugby from work either!
and the weather is shite!
but yeah imagine there was no stoppage for international breakand we were up against another prem team it would be interesting to see how they would perform?
———–Almunia
Gilbert–Hoyte–Silvestre–Traore
-Denilson–Coquelin–Lansbury
Wilshere—–Watt———JET
ruth, I will believe it when I see it… …here is to JT getting a kicking today with Cole, Deco, Ballack and co.
Gunner8
i’d love Arsenal to play a friendly against Brazil (in a 1-off match)
that would be awesome. I’d tip us to beat them!
and for my hat trick, even better would be a corner situation and Terry and Alex both fly in for a late ball and clash heads!
oh yeah
damn KM why, break the trick… …there used to be a team that did that in europe from Germany I think?
lol i didnt mean to
i remember the ROW v Europe
Zidane, Batistuta & Ronaldo always stood out for me.
KM you’re are right in one respect, I am funny! So thanks.
no problem Geoff …..
KM I wish I could do those smiley faces but I don’t know how!
Like Gooners were the original hard core fans of the Arsenal but now it is a term used to describe all. Cules were the dedicated Barcelona fans and of course the media has corrupted the name to describe all their supporters
Hello Grovers, I completely agree with Pedro regarding the support for international teams. When England play, all you have to do is look at the flags around the stadium, you will never see a St George cross with Arsenal, Everton, Fulham, Manure written across. Its always Grimsby, Southend, Walsall, Wrexham.
get with it Geoff
here type : ) without the space
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2009/11/12/1619831/world-debate-spain-vs-argentina-messi-iniesta-higuain-villa/comments?page=3&sort=oldest
good read
lansbury sub for the u21s, hopefully he’ll get on to make his debut.
U21 game- http://thefa.com/FATV
Gibbs is no.10 , lansbury on bench
Think comments turn into a warzone during the interlull cos we’re like junkies without a fix. At least I get a bit grumpy when I can’t my hands on some decent crack…
Really is a pretty unexciting u21 team isn’t it, gibbs is probably the most creative player there! cleverly is a half decent player, rose was absolutely shocking at peterborough, muamba just trips over the ball everytime he gets it and can’t pass to save his life, delph is very average most of the time, carrol is just a big lump up top
i like cleverley’s style of play. v.much like an arsenal player…..
Am I being moderated
Obviosly not
my smiley didn’t work
did that time
@ A, Awful game as usual, no forward passing, no vision, poor decision making, poor technique in tight space.
Thats what we are at national youth level and senior level, we dont play enough one-touch combination passing game, instead its a game of brute strength, speed & aggression. Extremely annoying
SuperGunner….trevor brooking and the FA need to get on a plane to Spain and see how the Spanish play…that should be a blueprint for any side.
Yeah it’s very annoying supergunner, though Stuart Pearce being in there doesn’t help! Hopefully lansbury will be starting soon, he and cleverly link up wonderfully for Watford, and always did for the u19s, and stick in Wilshere when fit as well there’ll be a nice arsenal core to the team, and we could actually play some decent football!
KM they just need to clone our youth blue print and reproduce it in every school of excellence throughout the country!
What a lovely cross from Aaron Ramsey!
yes that was brilliant from ramsey!
What a beauty. Ramsey scores a brilliant goal…
Ramsey playing a blinder, he’s just scored a brilliant goal!
Only 37 mins gone but we already have MOTM. Aaron Ramsey…
Aaron Ramsey playing a blinder today! The lad is fantastic…
Great goal by Ramsey (that talentless shit Fletcher even tried to take him out), he’s been playing really well.
Fletcher couldn’t show any resistance to Ramsey’s wonderful piece of skill…
Russia game kicking off in 10 mins arshavin playing
Ramsey,what a talent.FFS,play him Mr Wenger instead of your love child Diaby.
Jaguar!!! Hahahaha! You just couldnt resist could you dude!!!
I was goin to say, that if Ramsey keeps playing well, he will be in the team on merit…
Just noticed Wales are 3-0 up against Scotland. Hows Ramsey doing and anything interesting happening in the other int matches?
MG.Dont you think he deserves to be selected ahead of Diaby?
Foster, Brown, Bridge, Barry, Upson, Lescott, Wright-Phillips, Jenas, Bent, Rooney, Milner.
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What a shit team that is! Brazil to win 2-0!
Jag;
I said mate. If he keeps this up, he will definitely be in the team and starting more…
I think we might see him more at home for a bit, perhaps?
Stu;
Ramsey scored a great solo goal, and has set up one and is basically running the game…
http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/11/14/1624632/everton-reject-chelseas-14m-bid-for-jack-rodwell-report?
this boy is a bit special…i hope he doesnt go to ManU. he’l be at least £18m or so
Good to hear MG. Ramsey for president!
I think the Mancs will buy him to replace Ferdinand. A lot of people comparing him to Rio at the same age.
Ramsey to win strictly come dine with me X Factor….
any got a link for the russia game or the wales game???
Isnt Rodwell a midfielder though?
I’d be very surprised if Rodwell ends up as a centre back, box to box midfielder is how I see him, very good player.
He is a midfielder for now but is seen as a defender long term.
I dunno Stu, he started as a defender who could play in midfield, but he’s really top quality midfielder now, I’d be surprised if he moves backwards, he could be Everton’s Roy Keane! Very good all round midfielder
Not my opinion A. I dont watch him enough to say whether i agree with it or not but the Everton staff say he will be a ball playing defender in years to come. They would be the ones that know his game best.
Stu i agree with u mate. he’s very versatile and would be gr8 for us…a ball playing defender…wenger loves that type of defender.
Ah ok Stu, yeah I guess they’d know best. Seen him a fair bit this season for Everton, and few times for the u21s, reckon he’d be wasted in defence! Very good range of passing, composed on the ball, strong and good engine. Really rate him as a midfielder
Pavlychenko starting for Russia? Is there something wrong with Pogrebnyak?
not in the squad so i’d guess so stu
that Zhirkov guy is goood…..
Amazing mazey run from Zhirkov but with a poor finish. WOuld have been a great goal. Anyone know the full russia team or where i can find it?
Ramsey. Winner.
Yes he is Ardent. Its just dunbfounding that he is on the bench behind Cashley.
if Zhirkov gets his chance in EPL…he and Vermaelen could be the buy of year…
http://live.skysports.com/ScoreCentre/live.html
Ramsey clearly the MOTM….i hope he replicates his international form for Arsenal….
Ramsey is subsituted.
Not sure replicating it would be quite possible ardent seeing as he’s playing against much better players for us but still must give him alot of confidence! Be interesting to see who starts against Sunderland out of him and Nasri
Thanks A, not sure if they are right tho because to me it doesnt look like Rusia are playing 4-4-1-1 but whatever.
A Says:
November 14, 2009 at 16:10
Ah ok Stu, yeah I guess they’d know best. Seen him a fair bit this season for Everton, and few times for the u21s, reckon he’d be wasted in defence! Very good range of passing, composed on the ball, strong and good engine. Really rate him as a midfielder
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Good range of passing? more like good range of sideways passing, he has good physical qualities ala pace and height plus good shot on left & right, also by playing him in midfield now, they hope in long-term he can be a ball-playing CB, little overhyped for my liking. We have to wait to see how good his positioning @ Cb will be.
Oh yeah stu – look at the player line ups, but not the formation, which is very often absolutely ridiculous, they seem to just make it up, i don’t know why they bother. In the lower leagues they often have players in completely and utterly the wrong positions. Not seen the line ups wrong though
I’ve only seen Rodwell in defence once. It was in the u21 final against Germany when they were already 3-0 down and he was beaten very easily for Germanys 4th. Obviously not the best time to judge him in defence tho as it was a basic counter attack goal.
Hi guys. Heard Ramsey scored, read your comments but none of describehow it took place. Can 1 of you tell me how he scored.
Yeah the line-up looks right. To me it looks like more of 4-1-3-1-1 with the 3 CMs just roaming across the middle. Im a big fan of the football Russia play. Good neat passing and move stuff.
Supergunner he isn’t a cesc type passer of the ball but very capable of playing the long diagonals, got a very nice long pass on him, covers alot of ground too. I agree though if he’s gonna end up as a centre back have to wait and see whether he’s any good there. Didn’t he have a bit of a mare early in the season when they were decimated by injuries and he had a game there?
zeus – picked the ball up midway in scotland’s half, drove at the defence and completely skinned the centre back, tried to flick the ball to someone and hit fletcher, landed back at his feet, whereupon fletcher tried to manhandle him but he held him off and knocked it past the keeper.
@ A, Song as DM & he isnt Cesc type of player however @ the highest level of football, DM need abit of vision to see and then play forward passes to players situated in-between-the-line and he doesnt [watch him closely, he plays too many English passes as they say].
Rodwell’s manager sees him as a centreback, and I think that’s where he played for the under 21′s.
So chelsea have none of their players on Int duty….except Obi Mikel.. ????
And Zhirkov Ardent..obviously.
A
I think Ramsey should start against Sunderland..and Nasri against Chelsea…
Stu…
ya Zhirkov ofcors… It sucks tho…all their players will be fresh for next weeks games……
Ramsey is carrying on his gr8 displays after the Wolves match. He has talent for sure but i think its gonna be at least until nxt season or so when he will really challenge for a 1st team spot. atm he is good enough for the odd game here and there and 15mins or so at the end of games which have already been won.
Fantastic goal from Bilyaletdinov. Completely fooled te defender.
greatgoalllllllllll
What a goal. Russia a such a pretty team to watch.
Nigeria have qualified for the world cup. i think an african team will reach the QF’s this year.
Stu…are u watching the russia game online?
No KM, im watching it on Setanta.
Oh and thx A
Aw Damn! Arshavin didnt get sent off. That fucker he pushed went down like he was stabbed.
some cunt trying to get arsha sent off with an OVER REACTION
Geoff Rodwell has made almost all of his appearances for the u21 in midfield not in defence.
Supergunner you talking about song or rodwell, i’m confused?!
ardent, i don’t get why one or the other? The game where players will be rested will be against Liege midweek. I’d expect Nasri to start against Sunderland, as he needs the match sharpness and has been training without a game for 2 weeks. Maybe nasri up top and Ramsey starting in midfield against Sunderland, though Rosicky as well needs match sharpness and he’ll be fresh too like Nasri as he’s not been on international duty. Actually got a fair few options now!
Yeah Stu I was hoping he’d get a red!
Is song playing?
Actually with Arshavin playing twice, could be Nasri and Rosicky either side of VP, though Wenger did say that with an attacking mid as a forward he would want to balance it out by having a striker on the other side. Decisions decisions
Ramsey must be a on high atm, therefore i would definately play him ahead of diaby atm.
I hope rooney does his metatarsal again
Diaby is injured I think anyway
I hope rooney does his nan again!!
GM & Reggie
IS the England game any good, or shoud I just keep watching Russia?
There’s no atmopshere at all inside the stadium. You could hear a pin drop. Almost.
Courtesy of espn commentary on he England game.
zeus
i’m hearing it on radio…its so quiet :/
u guys think Guus will rest Arshavin for the 2nd leg….if Russia win comfortably today…
not a chance in hell ardent!
Eduardo has scored.
@ Dutchman
Which Eduardo? Croatia hasn’t started yet.
Yes, they have started. Against liechtenstein. Look at goal.com or livescore.com.
Brazil are so very ordinary. If they win the WC like they won the Confed cup this summer it would be a travesty of epic proportions. A complete defeat for football.
Eduardo has scored twice!
50 000 people and you can hear capello screaming.
Englad vs Brazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzil… Fallin asleep watchin this cackadoody!
Isn’t Anelka in the France line up/squad?
So Slovenia hafe an away goal… No chance of Arshy being rested now…
the reason why its so quite as no one can get pissed there!!
No one happy that eduardo scored twice???
Supergunner you talking about song or rodwell, i’m confused?!
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@ A, i talking about Song playing forward passes that you want your DM to play, but Rodwell dont do that, he just plays sideways.
Hi Dutchman. I’m happy. Russia won 2:1 does it mean that if Slovenia win 1:0 they will go through? Is there a away rule goal?
Has someone the ramsey goal in the highlights????
Which site???
Nilmar breaks the deadlock brazil 1-0
fack me.. the arse players are really turning it up!!
ramsey 2 assists and 1 goal
edu 2 goals
arshavin 1 assist!
Hillariously shite dive from Bastos just then.
Whats the Brazil lineup? Is Pato playing? Because of not then Dunga needs his head checked.
no pato, no ronaldinhio
Well Ronaldinho is shit so thats not really a suprise.
Cunt fabiano missed a penalty
ronaldinhio has been playing great for milan, he’s better than elano imo.
How great tho? Last season he was beyond awful. I dont know what he is like this season though.
he’s in top form atm, probably milan’s best player so far this season along with pato. I guess its got something to do with the world cup coming up soon
WTF its the HULK!!!
Cant understand why Lescott got a call up because it certainly isnt because of his performances this season. Same for West Brown, he has hardly played for United all season.
How long b4 the real game starts, ie Spain vs Argentina? 1 hour and 15 mins from now?
Maybe its Leonardo getting the best our of Ronnie because of both being Brazilian. Same with Thiago Silva. He really came out of nowhere didnt he. I only heard of him when Milan played Madrid but he must be doing well this season to have been called up by Defensive Dunga.
I don’t have any links to Ramsey’s goal but Bialetidinov scored a beauty.
http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/3915930/
you could also argue that foster, bridge and swp are lucky to start
About 8 of the England team wont get another game, if we are lucky! Only Rooney, Barry and Milner are any good… The others are shizen!
The whole england team currently playing are shite…aside from Rooney.
One of the reasons that Brazil seem so ordinary is that they dont give a shite about this game. They are only there having a laugh. The players only care when its a semi or final.
milner is very limited and barry is well overrated
Stu;
Woah there sunshine! Just because you have no affinity to England, dont mean you can slate the national side like that… I am deeply offended, shame on you!
Not you as well GGY???
Meh…whatever MG.
Of course Barry and many other England players are over rated… Its to make the hacks, media, pundits and fans feel that they have a decent crop of players and actually have a chance of winning sumfin, when in reality they are STILL soooo very effin ordinary in terms of technique, etc…
@ Bobby 7
I disagree. This is the way they play all the time under Dunga. The only difference is now England, even with shit players on the field, are not opening themselves up to a counter attack.
Under Dunga, Brazil are most dangerous at set pieces and when they are defending corners and defenders storm forward. They are the best nation at counter attacks in my opinion but if you dont open yourself up to these attacks this Brazil just looks Average at best relying heavily on Kaka and Robinho’s brilliance.
Whatever yourself, Stewy…
i was born and raised in london, but i cant help hating these cunts, half of then should not be wearing the shirt.
Oh jeeeez, fuckin Huddlestone… What a cart horse of a player he is…
England wont be good until arsenals english kids are in the team and occupy all 11 positions. Then england will realistically have a chance at winning it.
more spurs players coming on, this is too much, im turning over
walcot, wilshire and gibbs are the future for england
GGY;
Me too mate…
I used to be love watching England and would be well up for the games, almost as much as Arsenal games. And World Cups were a fucking brilliant experience, well thats still true, although my love for following England has kinda gone down the pan… Probably sumfin to do with the arrogant, over paid, over hyped, twats who wear the shirt most of the time…
Oi you leave tommy hud alone!!
mang, couldn’t agree more mate.
Zeus
Yes. i agree that under Dunga, Brazil has a quite defensive counter-attacking style to their play. But what i meant was that when the players in Brazil feel that they have something to play for they can pretty much tear apart any team out there. This lack of interest, that they have been showing today for example, is something they get a lot of complaints about back in Brazil.
eddie scored 2 for croatia, song full game for cameroon, eboue full game.
The beast hasnt changed much as he
Hes still shit!!
Got a soft spot spot for the Hudd have ya Reggiereg??? Ive got a soft spot for him too…. some quick sand…
He set up Fab 4s goal didnt he mangoon!!
Haha! True…
The spuds fans really rate him dont they!!
come on the french knock the paddys out
not sure i understand what England are about under capello….seems to me its a lot of headless chicken running with Lemmmon and SWP and hoofing it long ball to Hesky.
Wont be suprised if they lost to an African Team or some team from Asia.
Does Argentina start in 25 mins?
Im confused as to why everyone here wants the french to win because if they do go through then we will have 3 defenders and 2 midfielders gone for the most of the summer. Surely logically we should want france to lose.
No Stu, we want the French to win, coz we effin hate the Irish…Simple as that… ahem, its a good job there’s none Irish on here, innit Stu…
Arshavin was such shit today. Whats wrong with him lately. Okay, he produces brilliance sometimes when playing badly, but he’s just lost that spark he had last season.
Russia’s worst player on the pitch today
Dont be getting all pissy with me MG, just because England are deluded. mkay
Pat;
That was an attempt at irony there wasnt it?
You saying he has been shit for Arsenal??? You are having a larf yeh? Or you are very very high!
Oh Stew! I completely forgot you wuz Irish me old pal! I be pullin your leg n all to. Im half Irish, so there…
MG, he hasn’t been for us. moments of brilliance yes, but I expect more from a player like him. He’s been well below his best and you’d be lying to yourself if you said otherwise.
I’d say he was very much at his best against AZ Pat….
A, you mention one game. It was really bad at the beginning of the season. He was bad against United, misplaced passes and a lucky goal tbh.
lucky goal pat?! it was an absolute screamer!! at the start of the season by his own admission he was very unfit, but he’s looked leaner and more up to pace of late.
Just havin him on the pitch is importnat for the team, Pat. He gives the opposition problems, they are afraid of him, which allows other players room, etc.
I hink he has been playing well.
You are being a bit harsh there, fella, IMO…
Anelka starts tonight then… Lets see if we can work our voodoo magic and get him injured
Nik Anelka voodoo dolls at the ready fellas….
Arshavin hasn’t played well this season but he is played out of his natural position. He should have been played as a link up player behind Van Persie( behind him). He is wasted, because he isn’t a winger. As usual Wenger tries to be smarter than his players and once again we pay for it. Without any proper gk, a quality cd, and cdm we won’t win anything and many quality players will leave.
Oh and lets have a particularly nasty freak injury for that mouthy classless c*nt, Evra too, while we are at it…
Maciek;
Sorry, thats not how I see it. He has loads of freedom in the current system. Just because in the build up to games, when we see the lineups, he might be wide left, but he has licence to roam, as all the forwards do…
I really dont know what you expect? he has been instrumental in assists and scoring himself…
Its a long old season too…
maciek arshavin has free reign to roam around where he wants, and he was playing on the left today for russia wasn’t he? apart from deeper and more of a midfielder, whereas he plays as more of a forward for us
I bet Frankie, Drogba and Terry will start against us.
Arshavin can play shit for 89 mins for all i care,so long as he can show 1 min of brilliance as he has done this season is good enough for me? ffs he is world class!!
Maciek;
Yeah woujldnt surprise me mate… We will beat em anyways…
Maciek, he isnt out of position because we are playing 4-3-3 and arshavin himself has said that in this kind of system his best position is on the left.
He only plays behind the striker in a 4-4-2 and we dont play that.
reggie reg;
Yeah, that works for me too fella!
I hope Gallas and Sagna get yellow carded so they miss the next international game.
VAN PERSIE IS INJURED!!! I knew the Italians were going to injure him. HE is being stretchered off.
RVP on a stretcher- i hope he’s ok.
I hope France lose so they all have te summer off to rest.
Gawd, that Henry fella is crap isnt he…?
That fucker Chellieni just bad tackled RVP..
He looked like he was in some pain…I hope he is not seriously injured…
Oh fuck Juntelaar just came on for RVP..
That means he is injured…..
Fucking Chillieni…
I hate Italy….I hope they drop out first round at the world cup..
France would probably win the world cup is Domenach wasnt the manager. The have the top class players imo but the manager will always hold them back. oh well.
Ja;
Fuck no! Say it aint so! Where you watchin it? A stream…
ManGoonian and A. I respect Your opinion. In few interviews Anusha said that posiotion in which he playes in Arsenal doesn’t suit him quite well. He respects Wenger but feels he is played out of position. Recently he his form seems to go up but he isn’t still the same player he used to be. I love him as a player and as a human being. He is my favourite Arsenal player but his head seems to be elsewhere. Hope I’m wrong buty if we finish our season empty handed once more he and Fab will leave. And who could blame them. Just buy a proper winger and play him as a striker behind Robin or Eddie and we are sorted. He is the best Arsenal player since Dennis and I woulld be very sad if he leaves. We can’t lose two players to Barcelona.
Heinze is complete shit. And Romero is garbage. Spain 1-0 argie
I predicted Chielini or Cannavaro was going to injure RVP as soon as I heard Holland were playing Italy with RVP as the head striker.
Maciek, if we played Arshavin in the middle then it would mean he would technically be playing as a midfielder. Then we would have to drop Cesc because he plays the atacking midfield role right now.
Arsh gets a lot of freedom in the new system. Maybe those complaints about being played left wing were from last season in the 4-5-1 but i doubt he still feels the same.
Maciek;
That was last season, when he was playing a more orthodox left wing role fella…
Duff puts in a crunching tackle on Sagna to get the crowd fired up.
RVP stretchered off. Fuck our luck. I fucking hope Blatter dies. Pointless fucking friendlies.
Guaranteed Drogba,Terry, and Fat Frank will be fit and RVP won’t when we play Chelsea
Lets all prayer to our respective gods and ask them to heal our beloved RvP…
fuck fuck fuck!
“Huntelaar comes in for Van Persie, who got injured to his knee and had to come off on a stretcher. ”
no bendtner or rvp then, good news is that Eduardo scored 2 for Croatia. And i don’t think Vela is fit either.
We need to capitalise as Terry, Lampard and i think Drogba are all injured.
Why do people bang on about players leaving if we finish empty handed,well we wont finish the season with fuck-all we are gonna be champs!!
Fucking hell what a finish from Gignac. We should buy that fucker…if only we didnt play this system.
WTF RVP NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Update please JA. Did it look bad.
Maciek those interviews were last season, in 4-5-1 or 4-4-2. In 4-3-3 the position he’s in now is his best position, and he’s said as much on his website…. We play 4-3-3, there isn’t a position behind the forward, and we don’t play wingers either. At the start of the season he was noticably chubby and unfit, but he’s looked much better recently. The thing about him is that he just can’t be bothered when it’s too easy, and we’ve smashed so many teams this season he’s spent alot of it bored!
Without RVP, we can count on 0 pts. against Sunderland and Chelsea. Fuck yes, can’t wait
Lets just hope its just inflamation of the knee and nothing serious. Something he can take a simple injection for.
FFS. On a stretcher. What really pisses me off is that this is a fucking friendly. Why the fuck does he have to play in a fucking friendly.
Alex Vela is fit, he’s been in full training since the Thursday before the Wolves game. I really hope VP isn’t badly injured, but if he is we could cope with Eduardo or Vela centrally, but it certainly isn’t ideal.
Alex, you actually think they’re seriously injured? Please. Lamps never gets injured, Drogba will be fine and JT is the most likely to miss the game. I don’t rate him either way so it doesn’t matter
Im hoping that RvP has come off as a precaution… Yep, thats what it was…
Pat Drogba and Lampard are almost certainly missing for it, JT i’d imagine will be ok though
Pat;
Have you taken some of BBKs unhappy pills today???
Jeeez, lighten up! Even without RvP, which is not confirmed as yet, we have more than enough to beat Sunderland and the chavs…
Honestly i’ve always been a fan of fitted football shirts but the french one of just too much. If it was a bit colder out there im sure all their nipples would be on show. They might as well have just painted the shirts on because noone would have noticed the difference.
Yeah guys I watching a stream..when I saw the RVP injury….
The second the stream came up..I saw RVP on the ground in pain…..then they showed the replay ..and it was that fucking idiot Chillieni…..
They stretchered RVP off and then on came Huntelaar…
Hopefully he doesnt play their other friendly and recovers in time for Saturday….even if its on the bench…
Why play your best fucking players in a friendly? Friendlies wreck our title challenge every single fucking year by injuring key players.
FFS, last time a player was stretchered off and played in the next game was Hleb against Villa.
This is RVP we’re talking about. At least a month out. No point in being optimistic when it comes to injuries concerning us. You all should know better.
Italian fucking scumbags.
Fat Fwank has a torn muscle, so id out for 3 weeks, Drogba broke a rib and I have no idea what Terry’s problem is, apart from the obvious; ie, being a dirty fouling chavvy cunt…
And a uncouth cunt mangoon!!
You can blame the dutch FA for arranging such a high profile friendly. In which they’d want their best players, so well done you clog wearing tulip loving twats!
Ja what actually happened? twist something, or just a kick?
Blackburn scumbag Andrews gave Sagna a proper kick on the ankle. Let a scream out of him but is alright now.
Fuck me, Sagna is hobbling now!
MG, we’re talking about Sunderland here, a new and improved Sunderland. You expect Eduardo to do much?
I’m being realistic. SUnderland were fucking awesome against Spurs at the Lane. They were awesome at Old Trafford.
We’re playing them at the Stadium of Light, after an international break. Odds against us considering the form we’re in after an international break with our best player out atm.
Maybe it wasnt Andrews, i dont know who it was but andrews is still a scumbag.
Looked like a kick to me…..I only saw it once…..
But hopefully its not as bad as we think…..
Keeping my fingers crossed..
Irish twits. You know they were going to set out on roughing up France when Trapatonni chose the talentless hack lawrence over Mcgeady
Duff had a bad tackle on Sagna in the 1st minute of the game
Im not suprised Chiellini injured someone. He is actually a shite defender who just throws his weight around and calls it defending. Im embarrassed that once upon a time i wanted arsenal to buy him.
Pat Sunderland were awesome when Bent was smashing them in, which he’s stopped now, and Cattermole was in the middle, as well as Kenwyne Jones up top. We should beat them easily enough without VP, Eduardo, Vela, or even Arshavin could play centrally and do a good job
No Pat, you are being pessimistic as fuck!
Course I expect Eduardo to do something. Why the hell wouldnt you? He is a top class striker FFS!
Sunderland are not awesome either, shit, they are pretty average and will be missing 4 of the better players…
We’ll struggle against Sunderland, thats guaranteed with or without RVP. They’re a tough team to play against and our work rate has to be 100% to get the 3 pts.
Haha! Pat, you said the talentless Lawrence!
It begins. The injuries will come, and in full force. Do not kid yourselfs RVP is injured and is likely to be our for what…6 weeks, oh im sorry he play for arsenal i meant 6 months.
I was worrying about our game v sunderland, but now im dreading it. As we all know eboue will be played on the wing to acomodate for RVP’s absence.
So now we are a one man team now?
if we cant beat sunderland without RvP we might as well give up now…..
http://www.thegunninghawk.com/2009/11/14/robin-van-persie-stretched-off-in-pain-in-italy-international-friendly/
Damn shame, I hope he’s like Eboue and is availble for our next game but that’s unlikely. Still, we have Eduardo and Vela available but RVP was on a roll.
Bloody internationals and crap tacklers.
Exactly Reg, we’re not a 1 man team and we have good strikers available.
Thanks guys. Sorry for mistake. Hope he will start play even better. Any news on Robin injury?Hope Vela will start with Eddie but knowing Wenger he will play Diaby.
lol kevin, yeah like eboue has played on the wing all season.
if vp is injured eduardo will come in, someone who would be sunderland’s best player….
I’m not sure VP would’ve started against Sunderland anyways, he would have played 2 friendlies and arrived back late, I wouldn’t have been surprised to see Eduardo start without VP getting injured
Lawrence is talentless, but talent is not what makes Sunderland a tough team to play against. Their work rate and desire will ruffle us. Not to mention the dirty tactics.
Reggie, what the fuck are you on about. No disrespect meant, but did united think the saem way?
Some of you need to come back down to earth. We haven’t done shit yet and until we do, United and Chelsea are a class above us during this 5 year drought.
Yeah Stu…most gooners were calling for Chillieni…but the Confederations cup showed him up big time….
I dont rate him…..
Also Domenech seems like he wont give up until he fucks up France once more…..
He is leaving all the creativity to Gourcuff…..and Anelka is playing so deep….
Domenech always plays two dms…so france lack creativity….they struggled to score in the qualifying campaign…..they only scored multiple goals against the Faroe Islands……
Pat as if the trophies won over 5 years, or even last season matter now when comparing the teams! Our squad is miles better than Utd’s now!
kevin;
Get a grip FFS!
Jeez, if an unconfirmed injury to one player is enough to send you over the egde, then I dont know how you will sleep tonight with that worry!
Pat you are the one talking bollocks mate it isnt me bigging up sunderland saying they were AWESOME ffs we aint a one man team !!
A, i understand that eduardo will be played in the centre but eboue will probably play on the wing, especially as we are away from home. Unless of course wenger is a bit daring and decides to play nasri there, or rosicky, or even both in replace of diaby.
This is assuming of course if RVP is injured…
A, we’ll see who is better at the end of the season. We’ve been through this before. Injuries, loss of form, decent down the table.
I knew RVP would get injured when he started against Italy. They’re cunts. If its not Materazzi, its Chillieni.
Pat;
Who the fuck are you to tell people to come back down to earth???
Shit, we are the ones being REALISTIC. You are being way over the top with your pessimism.
Oh gawd and now you have us crumbling away and winning nuffin now…
You really are a happy camper today mate!
Did RVP look in a lot of pain or no? Knowing our luck its ligament damage, like Cesc last season
What the fuck is Anelka doing so deep..trying to create?
Domenceh is a fucking idiot……
He should have 1 dm and 1 playmaker…..instead of having the 2 Diarras…..
If Toulalan was fit it would have Toulalan and Lassana……
Why didnt they fire him after the Euro first round exit?
kevin;
Why would Eboue play there? He might play RB…
No we are not a 1 man team, but RVP is an integral part of this team and the way we play suit his style perfectly. It was going to be difficult enough coming off of a International duty and playing away.
It was always goping to be tough, but now its a little more so if we are without him. Lets cross fingers and toes, don’t forget there is still another game in midweek, we could lose more players yet.
We wait with abated breath to see what RVP injury is really like. It must be said though that his record with injuries since last season has not been that bad. Didn’t he play like 40+ times last year? Time for Nasri and co to make the step up though.
kevin eboue has only played in midfield this season away at utd, and then when people havn’t been fully fit. Both nasri and rosicky have have a two week rest with this international break and be raring to go so very likely to start, and then arshavin will probably start too, ramsey will be up for a start as well. I’d be surprised if diaby started arriving back so late with so many other alternatives, and bear in mind eboue also arrives back late as he plays a game on the weds.
Sunderland wre so AWESOME they still lost 2-0 to the spuds
Pat;
Hopefully it was just a kick, so a bit of bruising and some pain is all…Please gawd, buddha, allah…
MG, I haven’t been pessimistic this whole season. These 2 games are fucking huge for us. RVP is probably our best player atm, or 2nd to Cesc. Our attacking players interlink the way they do because of his style and play. He almost always has 2 defenders on him around the box.
Sunderland are such shit, but they manage to outclass United, Liverpool, and Spuds…all away at that?!?!
Don’t be surprised come next weekend
I dont mean to be flippant, but this over reaction and gnasshing of teeth and hand wringing over this injury is makin me laugh…erm, sorry…
reggie, did you watch the fucking game? Obviously not. Gomes had a good day. None of our keepers are capable of making all those saves he made. Even saved a pen. Sunderland had an off day in finishing, but they won’t make similar mistakes against us
Eboue will play there as wenger always trusts him. If he doesn’t then we will see how good this young team is. Arshavin will have to step up completely, and nasri and rosicky will have to complement cesc properly.
Relax people…we have Rosicky, Theo, Eduardo and Vela all coming back.
MG, he was stretchered off. He didn’t walk off…
Cesc was out for 4 months after walking off the field…
Pat;
I understand what you are saying. And of course it will be a tough game, like other games have been this season.
However I truly believe we can and will win it. Not because i am deluded, or on some cloud created by our form of late, or me getting carried away.
Nope, I think we have the players to win the game.
The likes of Nasri, Arshy, Cesc, Rosicky, Eduardo, Vela and even Vermilli.
zeus we already know that nasri, rosicky, vela didn’t go on international duty, and song, ramsey, eduardo, senderos have survived unscathed.
It’s just arshavin, cesc, and the frenchies who we need to worry about midweek! and vp if he isn’t injured from today!
Pat i watched the fuckin game, they still lost did they not or was i watching something else!! you tell me!!
Forgot Nasri.
kevin;
You are basing this Eboue theory on what exactly?
Pat;
So, he went off on a stretcher…And your point is?
Pat Sunderland started the season very well because they had two very tenacious battlers in the middle, Jones holding the ball up very well, and Bent was on fire. None of those are things we have to contend with, and they’re the three most central elements to Sunderland’s early season form. They won’t be a push over, but we should have more than enough to deal with them.
Im basing it all on the 07/08 season. Where when any of our wingers were injured eboue played on the wing.
Pat;
And my comment about Lawrence wasnt to do with you bigging up Sunderland. It was because he missed a sitter…
Pat im willing to have a little wager that sunderland dont beat us!!
Imo
We dont need Van P to beat Sunderland.
Arshavin is a terror all on his own.
And we are starting to look the business now on set pieces.
I do hope he will be back for the Chelsea game because Van the Man always steps up for the big challenges.
kevin;
You need to move on and get with the times dude….
Seriously now, the gulf in quality between us and Sunderland is ridiculous.
We have players on the bench who are better than anyone Sunderland has, and their best players are even injured.
You’ll see.
How will anyone see Kevin – Nasri, Rosicky, Eduardo, Vela, Arshavin are all fit, so eboue won’t play…. Not to mention Eboue will be very tired as he’s one of the few who has a game midweek!
kevin;
Oh you are a riot mate! Basing your argument on what occured 2 seasons ago! When we played a different formation too…
We have Nasri, Rosicky, Arshavin, Vela, Eduardo and possibly Theo for the 3 forward positions.
But you are right. We won’t know for sure till the game on the 21st…
Sunderland is 3 points.
The Chelsea game is a must win. Imo.
I hope fab stays on the bench.
Fab4 better not even think about coming on against ARgie………….Fucking international break
Look i don’t want to start an arugment. I would love to have nasri and rosicky, with cesc, and arshavin together. But firstly i doubt wenger is going to play both rosicky and nasri becuase they have just returned form injuries. I really want to see them all united, but i have accepeted how wenger works these days. Nevertheless i hope.
These friendlies are completely pointless IMO. The teams should just get together and work on systems and tactics and other such shit.. Why bother playing games particularly when the result will be seen as the improtant thing, even though it aint…
Im putting £50 into the kitty to pay for the hired Goon to top Blatter and Platini…
How Wenger works thses days???
But you are basing it on 2 year old team selections!!!
Let it go and leave it till the 21st or else I will shake my fist at the PC screen in an angry fashion and styleee…
I expect Theo to start Because he’s a more direct player…we already have enough creativity with Fab,Arsh,Rosicky
Remember Diaby is injured.
So we could See Rosicky play in attack and Nasri play right behind him. But i bet its Theo upfront and then Rosicky to make a cameo for fitness.
zues;
You know he will come on at some point!
shit RVP injuredddd
Kevin Nasri returned from injury a month before the Sunderland game, and Rosicky a good 3 weeks, I’d be surprised not to see them both start seeing as they’ve had these two weeks to get really fit, and will be totally fresh.
Anyways, have to wait and see.
2054: Arsenal fans, if I find out anything more about that reported injury to Robin van Persie, you’ll be the first to know. Promise.
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Cross everything fellas!
What i mean by how wenger works these days is that he worries that becuase we have such an abundance of attacking options he believes that we need some defensive stability. Hence the reason he sometimes plays eboue on the wing. Hopefully because we now have essentially all our midfielders back eboue will be left redundant.
Wtf is happening to Goonertalk.com ?!!!! Hacked?
I guarantee Lampard and Drogba will be lining up against us at the Emirates, especially Lampard. They said two-three weeks and he is a quick healer. He’ll just wear those bicycle short things he always wears.
As for RVP, big fookin deal. Very good player but the striking position is one area I have very little concern with. Eduardo and Vela can both bring their own shizzle to the frizzle.
David I’m not sure Theo is fit – Wenger said Denilson would be back the second week of international week, Theo the week after, so by my estimations Theo won’t be fit until the City game. Vela or Merida could get a start potentially, though I think more likely it’ll either be Rosicky and Nasri wide, or Arshavin and one of those two, Eduardo central
Oh and some RVP news, do not quote me on this but they say he has some ankle problem. Possible a leg break.
And Vermaelen scores for Belgique!
RVP went off on the 14th minute of the game. Hope its nothing too serious.
As long as Arshavin, Fabregas, Rosicky and Nasri are in tandom, moving around at random, then we should be too much for the Mackems.
Yea i fully Expect it to be
———Back 5
Cesc—-Song——Nasri
Rosicky—-Eddy—-Arhsavin
Kevin
I hope you are 100% WRONG!!
Kevin that was true when we played wide midfielders, 4-4-2 or 4-5-1. Now we play 3 forwards, the defensive stability comes from playing three centre mids, the only balance that Wenger has talked about when it comes to the two wide men is when he said that he can play Rosicky or Nasri as a wide man, but when he does that he feels we need to balance it by having a striker on the other flank!
Paulinho Drogba has cracked a rib, and Lampard is 3 weeks, and the Chelsea game is in 2, both are very very unlikely to play, i’d say 99% likely to be out!
2109 any news yet on rvp mangoon!!
An akloe problem..leg break…Well, thats two different things mate! Hope you are feckin wrong about both!
Maradona takes off higuain and put on Tevez hehe. Argie penalty….
David I agree with that, that’s what I expect.
i Can’t wait to see nasri and cesc together in midfield.
reggie reg;
Nothing as yet, only fresh injury news is I am getting cramp in my fingers from crossing em sooooo effin much!
A; he’ll play
http://www.bluetinted.co.uk/article-standard.aspx?id=106
MG, where are you getting your commentary from?
“Dutch radio just reports that Van Persie will be flown to a hospital in Holland to take scans/photos, nothing known about how serious the injury is though.”
Looks like ankle ligament damage??
David;
Yeah, thats the team I expect too… Even with RvP fit and raring to go!
“Dutch radio just reports that Van Persie will be flown to a hospital in Holland to take scans/photos, nothing known about how serious the injury is though.”
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Gulp!
Paulinho i’ll be shocked if he does play.
We’ve got a bit of a wait for vp news then
Same place as A, by the looks of it mate!
When the hell did Fab4 come on.
Looks like a nasty kick, bad bruising, he’ll be fine in a week at the most…
So says Dr ManGo…
That Elia boy is fecking amazing.
Chutney&Mango whats your prognosis on RvPs injury!!
gotta say that worries me, it’s a weird one, could be a metatarsal, or even a nasri style break, don’t see the ankle going over though, kick just above it or even on the boot.
What a Bendtner-esque miss!
Great ball from Fab4 tho!
Bad vruising, that is my final offer….
Bad Bruising….
2nd that mangoon!!
I just don’t know why Wenger can’t just tell the international coaches that RvP et al are carrying knocks, hence they can just go and fuck themselves and play second strings in fucking friendlies?
This is very interesting Cesc is playing the CF role in the 4-3-3.
Wow…I think that is………brilliant.
unfortunately it doesn’t work like that suga! The players still have to meet up with the national team, and get assessed by their medical staff, so if no injury then they have to play! Diaby actually was injured, yet France havn’t released him!
A,
blah, blah, blah – SAF does it all the time (and with English players too) and doesn’t give a fuck, why do we have to be soooo by-the-book?
INteresting how Messi is shite for his National Team.
there are injuries that cannot be proven either way (back strains, etc.) – it is all about the player telling a little fib…
huh suga3?! no he doesn’t – the players are still assessed by the england medical staff…. got nothing to do with by the book, there’s literally nothing he can do! If any manager declares a player injured, then the player still has to go to meet up with the national team and be assessed by their doctors, no manager or club has the power to just say a player is injured, but it’s just that when gerrard has a niggle, he exaggerates how much he hurts so doesn’t play, got nothing to do with benitez, or fergie with utd players, or any manager! No manager has any power at all in that regard
Suga3;
Thats not the case mate… Players have to be signed off by national medics.
A,
all I’m saying is that they SHOULD exaggerate not to get picked and that is it…
I understand that players have to play in qualifiers and all that, but the friendlies? plain fucking naive if you ask me…
Anelka scores, GR8 goal…
Suag3;
Its a world cup year. Players aint gonna risk not playing by taking the piss…
Looks Ramsey had amazing game. Just played for 50min and won the MOTM. There is something about this kid. He will become regular very soon.
Italians have just invented “the Hand of God Part 2″
it is a commonly known fact that whiplash like injuries are impossible to tell if someone has them or not…
Xabi Scores. Pk. Good Finish
SUGA3 it isn’t that easy though – they have to have some sort of injury in the first place, they can’t just make something up, then try to fake it in the medical examination! Very few if any players do that! Diaby was declared injured by Wenger, by our medical team, and by himself, but when they examined him they decided he wasn’t adequately injured and had to stay with the squad, and he might be involved on weds!
Now disallowed
MG,
do you seriously think that RvP would be left out of the WC squad for missing a friendly? you’re having a laugh…
Just an interesting observation. Is it possible RVP injured himself getting up? He looked like he tried to get up quickly and when he put his foot on the ground, it twisted a bit.
I know that probably not it, but that actually looked worse than the challenge all together.
Messi is shit for NT because Maradroga wants to turn him into a mini me(him). He must be both the organizer and goal scorer. Madness. He needs help call back Riquelme twat.
Gerrard’s last injury was sustained playing when he was already carrying a knock. If there was anything Benitez, or Gerrard could’ve done then he wouldn’t have played. It’s just living in cloud cuckoo land thinking that players would just make up injuries not to play internationally, they’d get found out and the amount of stick they’d get would be ridiculous.
Pat,
it looked like he got the slightest of contacts while standing on this foot with a lot of weight on it…
What a pass from Mata…
fucking hell, what a miss from Gignac…
Suga3;
You suggesting all our players report to their National teams with whiplash???
I said it after the lyon v pool game. I like the look of this french keeper.
To be honest, now that I’ve seen the footage of RVP’s injured, we’d be harsh to call Chillieni a dirty fuck. Its a challenge everyone would in that position.
Doesn’t look a bad injury, but it might be. I hope not
Suag3;
Look, I can appreciate you dont want our players to represent their countries, especially inj friendlies… But inventing phantom injuries is up to the player.Look at Theo, he came out and said he wanted to play for England, when he could’ve said no.
Its down to the player and I imagine RvP wanted to play as he is the main man for them now.
Unfortunate, but shit happens…
The video didn’t looked that bad to me, but RVP did seem in some pain. Normally a bad sign.
what part of his leg is injured?
What a ridiculous mistake.
zeus;
It could go either way… he might be in pain innitially from a bad kick, or a twist… Hopefully it doesnt involve ligaments or bones!
MG,
surely, our medical staff could be a bit more creative?
whiplash was just an example I gave, having little medical knowledge…
and no, not ALL of them, just the key ones playing in position where the likeness of sustaining serious injury is higher…
Paul88;
We don’t know yet mate…
Suga3;
Your dedication to the Arsenal cause is commendable dude! But, it just wouldn’t happen… The players might as well be forced to retire from International football…
That is the ONLY solution!
Alou Diarra looks like the business.
Okay mangoonian.
Lets hope it ain’t serious. I’m not hopeful as far as rvp is concerned tho.
Theo should have said no if he could, as he obviously got injured as a result, didn’t he?
that is professional disobedience and The FA should be paying his wages during the time out…
handbags started flying
What annoys me about walcott is how he gets selected for the u21′s and the full squad. Wenger said it would be too much for him in the summer and he was right.
and that is direct disobedience if you ask me – I’d just dock his wages so that there was no fucking Ferrari for Melanie…
it is all about how valuable you are for your national team – Carragher retired from the internationals and was recently asked to come back but told Capello to do one, no?
Im sure Walcott is feeling like a Mug enough without you Gents chipping in. He already lost his place on the Starting XI for CLub and Country. So……..
David, he was never starting XI for us. He started when we were decimated by injuries!
Rvp should get over this injury quickly enough and should be back for Chelsea which is two weeks away.
If there is any silver lining its that he won’t have to play another useless friendly midweek.
Also he’s not lost anything! Until he’s fully fit we won’t know where he is in the pecking order!
Dont be silly Pat
Walcott was promoted to the Starting XI for Arsenal.
Which was a big reason why he replaced Beckham.
Chiellini made a good tackle, but it looks like RVP might have injured himself, it was his right ankle he was holding and he swung with his left, so maybe he twisted it.
David if Rosicky, had been fit then i’m not sure he would’ve been a regular starter, it would’ve mainly been 2 of Rosicky, Nasri, and Arshavin out wide. Though he might be a regular starter now, we just don’t know. I’ve got high hopes for him in this system, reckon he’ll score quite a few goals
Whos place did hge take David? Rosicky was starting XI and his long term injury was the onmly reason Theo got a sniff. He will never be world class
David,
what he did was just unprofessional and he just shot himself in the foot by doing what he did – fuck me, imagine you are at one of the biggest clubs in the world, already played for the senior squad, hell, even scored a brilliant hattrick for the senior team against the bogey team and all of the sudden you get called up by a mug like Pearce to play for U21s: what would you say?
I know what I would do…
I don’t blame walcott.
I think if you make it as a regular in the full squad they shouldn’t select you for the u21′s again. They never did it with rooney, owen etc.
Walcott probably didn’t wanna get hammered like bentley did that summer for pulling out the u21′s. Unfortunately he injured himself and that twat up the road nicked his place.
If Rosicky had been fit?
Who ever thought Rosicky would ever play again?
That he plays in the team now is an added bonus.
He certainly isnt in our long term plans.
Walcott basically took Hleb’s position.
Paul,
Pearce called him up because he was lacking quality players and he was afraid to look like useless idiot he is…
…and worse of all he was mean’t to be the star of the u 21′s and he played crap.
Personally im with Paul on this one.
I dont blame Walcott for joining the U-21′s especially when the Manager gave Walcott the chance to play in his prefered position.
Granted it didnt work out. But with younger players experience is extremely valuable.
Pat
Walcott would never be a world class what? Player?
That is odd. I thought Funny Friday was over. Its Saturday innit?
Paul,
there was nothing ‘unfortunate’ about this, it was predictable, given the fatigue…
I just don’t rate Theo. Lennon and Valencia regularly gave Evra a very hard time, but Evra just totally dominated Theo in every single game.
suga3
Capello should have stepped in and told pearce that he’s a regular in the first team, on your bike….pick wilshere instead.
I was right – torn ankle ligaments!!!
damnnnn fuck fuck!
The shot that RVP took is the kind of shot I hate. My blood runs cold with fear when I see him do it. He puts so much power behind it and when defenders slide in like Chiellini did( which was a good tackle) to block it there is always a chance that something like that can happen.
As was stated by some1 above though, he was grasping his right leg so maybe that means his left is fine and its just a twist.
Pat Says:
November 14, 2009 at 22:13
I just don’t rate Theo. Lennon and Valencia regularly gave Evra a very hard time, but Evra just totally dominated Theo in every single game.
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Thats because we played Crab football.
Who’s place did Nasri take then David?!
Nasri was brought in to replace Hleb, Rosicky on the other flank, but Rosicky had setbacks which meant that Wenger felt it necessary to buy Arshavin as his replacement. Theo would certainly have played last season with a fully fit squad, but wouldn’t have been a guaranteed starter, just as I doubt he’ll be a guaranteed starter this year.
David,
I do blame him for not having a proper rest like he was supposed to – Wenger said he did not like the idea but TW forgot who is paying his wages: is Wenger lacking a bit of authority or what?
‘No, you’re not going and that is final’
That shouldn’t be so fucking hard, eh?
Theo would’ve got slaughtered by the media… heis not going to say publicly he doesnt want to play for England. The way the media work, they would’ve gone for him in a big way.
I doubt he will have to play in both teams again (U21s and senior England)
VP out for 2-3 months?! dear oh dear
Fucki mke Pat!
it is time to start the all-out war with FIFA, as without the major clubs they ain’t shit…
Pat;
Theo is way better than the headless chicken Lennon and valencia. Using the yardstick of one game vs Evra is not viable imo.
Bosnia hit the post 2 times in 10 seconds!
David, that has nothing to do with the type of football. Its individual skill and Theo doesn’t have any
If he’s out or 2-3 months we’re fucked. We haven’t got anyone to replace him with.
…
MG,
sorry, it may sound like a blasphemy, but I consider Theo and Lennon to be on par…
Valencia is shit though
Oh FFS! 2-3 months is a fuckin joke! His last long term injury was when he played for the Dutch…
Wankers!
Hahaha! Lennon is a clueless twat. Pace and nuffin else…
there you go…
out for 2-3 months?
‘we don’t need Chamakh’
Pat Valencia is shite, and lennon is a different type of player despite their similarities, in this system i expect theo to really excel, his constant running in behind with the players to play him in will really stretch teams
lovely win for france,bad news about v.p
Theo doesnt have any skill…
You have some stoopid things tonight, but that takes the biscuit…Shit, it takes the whole biscuit barrel!
If theo hadn’t of gone to the u21′s lennon wouldn’t have got his chance. Fair play to lennon, he took his chance.
how do you know he’s out for 2-3 months,where’s to confirmation hey ???????
MG,
not a dig, just a serious question: what does Theo have that Lennon doesn’t?
Eduardo will be central then against Sunderland and Chelsea, maybe give Vela a run against Liege, then Bendtner should be back, and it’ll be a big big chance for him as well as those two
Theo doesn’t have skill. You take away his pace and how effective would he be? Absolutely useless, which means he has no skill.
Where the hell is everyone getting this RVP news from?
Suga3;
Finishing, talent, passing a final ball… Intelligence…
SUGA3 absolutely superb movement, and more composure, and he kicks the ball properly!
http://img121.yfrog.com/i/vank.jpg/
Where is this 2-3 months thing coming from. I seriously doubt that.
Its unconfirmed. Some bod on the BBC football blog thing…
Still unconfirmed though…
http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1001/AD-Sportwereld/article/detail/444218/2009/11/14/Van-Marwijk-Van-Persie-scheurt-enkelband.dhtml
that says ten weeks
The role rvp has been playing is crucial to bringing everyone into play. We’re fucked without him.
A,
we all know he will play Bendtner there and Vela won’t get a fucking sniff…
Eduardo is completely different type of player (much less pace than RvP and little ball hold up ability, etc.) – yes, he scored 2 goals today, but it was 2 goals in a 5:0 win against Liechtenstein (sorry to piss on your parade)…
@ A,
What is the pic suppose to show? As i said he was grasping his right leg, don’t think the injury has anything to do with the actual shot.
I thought they were flying him to Holland though? How did they get that prognosis soooo effin soon???
just someone on twitter trying to get some hits,wanker
RVP out for 3 months, torn ankle ligaments, 4 months at least until he’ll be match fit, but Bendtner will be back by Christmas so I don’t see Wenger buying in Jan.
A Says:
November 14, 2009 at 22:15
Theo would certainly have played last season with a fully fit squad, but wouldn’t have been a guaranteed starter, just as I doubt he’ll be a guaranteed starter this year.
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Its quite moronic to assume that Rosicky wouldve been fully fit given the nature of his injury and the fact that he needed a second surgery at an indefinate date.
As always A,
There is fact and then there is opinion.
Walcott just about Started every game before he got injured late november last year so that qualifies him as a first teamer.
But you dont have to take my word for it.
You can hear it or read it from the horses mouth himself.
http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/578/barcelona/2008/10/12/908382/hleb-walcotts-rise-down-to-opportunities
eduardo won’t be any good playing the rvp role.
Suga3;
Sorry, Eduardo can hold the ball up and has the ability to play that role. Not exactly the same as RvP, but he can do that job.
And bendy is injured…
SUGA3 Eduardo’s like up play is very underrated. Vela’s too, and Bendtner as well can bring others into play. VP is a huge loss and we’ve got noone who’s going to replicate what he does, but we’ve got players who will come in and do a job there.
Bendtner won’t be fit for a few weeks, so it’ll be Eduardo and Vela there until then, and they’ll have to do their best to prove they can do it there! Bendtner has the best attributes to fit that role, but Eduardo and Vela can both too it too, in different ways.
zeus,
he is out for 2-3 months, get on with it…
there goes the title…
finestcuts Says:
November 14, 2009 at 22:30
RVP out for 3 months, torn ankle ligaments, 4 months at least until he’ll be match fit, but Bendtner will be back by Christmas so I don’t see Wenger buying in Jan.
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What a most stupid thing to say.
With Arsha expected to give his all midweek for Russia, he can’t be depended on at Sunderland. Massive pressure on Fab4 to play out of his skin i feel.
What do you mean Paul? Eduardo is a box player.
What do you disagree with David?
lol well Wenger, the clubs doctors, and all the specialists Rosicky saw are absolute morons then aren’t they David!
Noone can know whether Theo would’ve been first choice with a fit squad, whether Rosicky being fully fit, or if it was known he wouldn’t be then Arshavin would’ve come in in the summer.
He was a regular because he regularly played, just as Eboue was a regular the season before, but that doesn’t mean that they would’ve started in a fit squad
I would put my motgage ( if I paid mortgage) on it that this story is bullshit. 2-3 months for what exactly?
Its nothing but fuckry until its confirmed.
Why is the title gone?
Over reactions like that are stoopid, if you ask me, which you didnt, but i dont care…
Thats not what i said A,
I said it wouldve been moronic to think Rosicky wouldve been fully fit.
You act like we didnt know he wasnt going to be available the whole summer Wenger decided to stick with the team?
Eboue was a regular…….when Walcott got injured.
he’s not strong enough to hold the ball up, turn with it or bring others into play.
Is finestcuts new on here.
zeus for tearing his ankle ligaments, here’s a photo – http://img121.yfrog.com/i/vank.jpg/
Anyone who thinks Bendtner will waltz in an do what RVP does for us is fucking Joking.
If he is out for 3-4 months we cannot fuck around. We need quality up front asap, and I am not talking about Chamakh, I mean someone who will come in and play straight away. Any thoughts?
Paul88;
You cannot of seen Eduardo play then…. Of course he is strong enough and can hold the ball up….
on another note my mum did her ankle ligaments a month ago and she’s fine now.
up your fucking viva
If RVP is really out for that long..then I would say that Arsenal has the worst luck ….I mean everytime we seem like we turn corner….
Something bad happens……….
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
We might actually need to get Chamakh…..cuz you never know how Bendy’s situation will go….
Wenger get Chamakh in….we need that option if RVP is out
Paul your mum isn’t a professional athlete mate.
David he was meant to return in September, then October, then November, and yes he would’ve been fully fit when he’d gotten over his injury, just as he has been now when he’s gotten over it! Then there were doubts in January so Wenger signed a replacement.
mangoonian
that’s right, i’ve never seen him play. Which one is he by the way?
A,
Bendtner is just not clinical enough to play effectively as a first choice CF at the moment and to think otherwise is just plain delusional…
still, you can bet your bottom dollar that he will be played there as soon as he is anywhere near being fit…
yes, Dudu has good link up play ability, but he is quite poor with his back to the goal – good poacher but less than impressive when it comes to holding the ball with the defender on his back…
that is obviously subject to him staying fit and that is a big ask…
Even now I can’t see what happened to his right ankle.
I cant be arsed to have that argument tonight.
But Walcott was a first teamer and Im pretty sure Arsene wouldnt have bought Nasri if Rosicky had been fit.
Bendtner is a fucking joke.
We Need a CF. ASAP.
stonroy
Indeed she isn’t, she does play badminton tho. I think we shoudn’t jump to conclusions just yet.
Zeus it doesn’t take much for RVP to get messes up unfortunately.
Paul88;
Well, it is debateable that you know who he is if you think he cant hold the ball up, or is not strong enough!
Yeah SUGA3, because being clinical is the main requirement of that position?! Just as we were fucked when VP wasn’t scoring at the start of the season….
I hope Bendtner will play there when fit, and I expect him to do very well there, he was looking good before his injury.
@ A
His standing leg is slightly bent you mean?
Almost like he is standing on his ankle.
A Says:
November 14, 2009 at 22:38
David he was meant to return in September, then October, then November, and yes he would’ve been fully fit when he’d gotten over his injury, just as he has been now when he’s gotten over it! Then there were doubts in January so Wenger signed a replacement.
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Well who was playing football before Wenger signed his “replacement” in January? I guess we didnt play any footie until January then?
Bordeaux want sell Chamakh in January anyways…
Okay so if this news is true and we are still in it come January who should we buy?
yeah zeus, his whole weight was on that leg, and chiellini knocked his foot like that, so his whole weight went on twisting his ankle over
Paul I don’t agree with your assessment of Eduardo, you underrate him.
Eduardo is class, and I have faith in the lad, but if he is injured we are really in trouble. We cannot fuck around this year we have to buy in January.
A,
I just can’t be arsed to get into this pointless argument, let’s agree to disagree, shall we?
yes, he was not scoring, but was a constant menace, getting plenty of attention, which allowed others to chip in given the space…
to say that Bendtner will do as good is laughable…
I swear, give me strength. We’re all here blaming Chiellini and it seems RVP cant stand on his own two feet properly. The last time he was out as well he jump for a header on a corner and according to him took his eyes off the ball and landed funny and twisted his knee.
Fuck. If any player needs a specific fotball boots made for him its Robin. Gutted and just when the back log of games are expected. I hate November.
Holland national team website
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fonsoranje.nl%2F&sl=nl&tl=en&history_state0=
Mangoonian
That’s your opinion
My opinion is “he’s the fox in the box”. Not a link up player. He’s not very good with his back to goal.
We won’t Stonroy, Wenger will use Vela.
Finest
I don’t underate him. I think he’s class. Just not in the role rvp has been playing.
With VP out, Bendtner will play when back, or Eduardo, or Vela, or even Arshavin, we’re far from fucked, but not in the best situation. VP should be back towards the end of the transfer window, so I’d be very surprised if we’ll buy anyone, it’s just a big chance for Bendtner/Eduardo/Vela or even if Arshavin moves centrally then Merida or Ramsey to get a regular place in the side, or Theo to shine wide right, or maybe Wilshere
vern scored
three words:
David. Fucking. Villa.
another three:
Money. No. Object.
What’s this talk of Bendter? I dont want to be David-like but if our hopes are going to be rested on Bendtner finding his goalscoring form in front of goal, then we might as well start the ‘we will do it next year’ chant.
Either way Wenger has no reason to not play Vela now.
Wilshere is a 17 year old boy – do you seriously think he is ready to play in the Prem?
Absolutely SUGA
and the Holland game ended with 0:0 result…
FUCK. FUCK. FUCK.
fuck is rvp seriously out for three months?
why are we talking about buying replacements here? its as if some of you, like M&S think its xmas already-its almost two months till the Jan window opens and I think ur sadly mistaken if you think wenger is going to open the cheque book to cover the three or four extra weeks it takes for rvp to recover (providing the rumours are correct)
so is it torn or broken?
On the holland website there is a link – ‘Van Persie breaks ankle’
no offense A, but you’re deluded if you think so – it will only result in LJW getting shit kicked out of him and ending up being Michael Owen like crock before his career even starts: you don’t know much about body strength development, do you?
We’re not gonna buy a striker guys, not when we have Arshavin who can play second striker, we would need to have Eduardo, RVP, Bendtner, Vela, Walcott and Thomas out at the same time for that to happen.
Although if I was Wenger, I’d try and do a part-ex, Thomas for Chamakh to increase our options.
The funny thing is there was no reason to try RVP as a CF. He is in a good phase but not a killer as he puts it, like Toress or Drogba. and as You said Suga a fucking useless 0-0.
have you seen the fixture list??
fuck getting injured for playing a stupid ass friendly.. call all the players back… i hate this
Goonerwinsoon, his ankle is broken and his ligaments are torn, the bones will take at least 6 weeks to heal, then you have to retrain the ankle muscle so he’s out for a minimum of 3 months.
finest,
I could think of a few more appropriate squad members to use as a bait…
*cough* Diaby *cough* *cough*
Yeah SUGA3 – just as Cesc had the shit kicked out of him?!
JET finest?! Watt would play ahead of him as a striker.
Eduardo, Vela, Bendtner, Arshavin will all do the job differently to VP but well, and the rest of the team will adapt too
If we Aren’t gonna buy how about a 3 month loan spell like Fergie did with Henrik Larsson. If Wenger doesn’t want to buy or permanently block a young player, surely thats an option. An option I’m not sure why he has never used. Fuck, how about a loan spell for Pires( not needed now I know)but……….
Suag3;
Wenger’s deluded then too. he said Wilshire can play in the league. Not every week, but a few starts for sure…
…and I dont see why eduardo cant work-we have worrying little cover beyond that but if arshavin can roam inside a fair bit we should be ok.
I would say (and obv up for debate) our strongest lineup is;
Almunia
Sagna Verm Gallas Clichy
Cesc Song Nasri
Rosicky RVP Arshavin
Bench: Fabianski,Gibbs,Djourou,Eboue,Walcott,Bendtner,Eduardo
Now even if we ignore the bench,can anyone tell me when we were last able to field a full strength team 1-11..surely it must be getting into years (even if u trade rosicky for walcott) I know other teams get injuries too but the consistancy to our best players is insane.
zeus couldn’t happen until January anyways, and if we loaned someone on the first of January, VP would only be out for a couple of weeks whilst that player is here, and he’d take over a couple of weeks to settle into the team and club, so not gonna happen!
A,
Cesc had a few MEN around who protected him – most of our players must worry about themselves as far as this subject is concerned…
Yup you’re right there A….don’t forget about Sanchez Watt, so we’re sorted for strikers.
winsoon swap fabianski for almunia and i’d agree with you about strongest line up.
SUGA wenger has said he expects Wilshere to start prem games this year, he’s set Ramsey the target of 15-20 starts, Merida too, this sort of situation is why we have so many young talented players, it’s up to them to grasp the opportunity
Vela and Bendtner may need to step into the role and rise to the challenge. it going to take that kind of thing if we are to win the league now. Losing RVP for the main part of the season is a massive blow to our chances.
not just his goals but his assists are so important. he is also very experienced and knows the PL inside out.
I would say perhaps Rosicky and maybe Nasri could be used in the attacking roles. Arshavin obviously will be, but I guess Eduardo is the obvious one to step into the central role. him or Nik B when he is fit.
the squad seems thin now all these injuries are hitting us. wenger may be forced to buy in January in attack. chamakh?
We need to get Vela & Bendtner fit ASAP
@ A,
This is RVP. I accept your point, but do you really think he is going to spend the minimum amount of time out?
Wenger would especially want him for the run in and will take no chances. We could be lokking at a 4 month injury period here.
super Vela should be fully fit, he started full training on the Thursday before the Wolves game
MG,
it is just annoying to see us trying to patch things up all the time rather than have ready and suitable replacements like some other clubs do…
Wenger has a thing for small nippy players, which usually results in key players being out for considerable time during the season – yes, there is little he can do about internationals, but the midgets get fuck all protection, which brings us back to the subject of visiting Monsters’R'Us in Jan…
How far off is bendtner, a month?
Oh this has really pissed me off…. It couldnt just be a feckin twinge or a bruise could it? Couldnt be a poxy little injury that kept him out for a week or 2! Nope, that just wouldnt be the Arsenal way now would it…???
For fucks fucking bollocky sake! What a load of horse shit, what a humungous elephantine load of manure!
Boo fuckin Hoo!
Paul it was meant to be 3 weeks from when he had the operation, which was on Tuesday, so expect him to be back around the City game, match fit maybe a week or two after I guess, I’m not sure whether the 3 weeks is not training for 3 weeks or being considered in 3 weeks
A-surely fabianski hasnt done enough to prove hes worth keeping between the sticks,esp in the big games. On the other hand it does bring up the fact that we have three pretty good keepers, but id much rather have one with real quality.
Having pondered on the matter it feels funny to say but if one of our most influential players was to go rvp is possibly the most expendable. Cesc is dominating matches by himself and I cant help but feel wednesday could be the night we see our season go up in smoke-if gallas gets walloped by that troll robbie keane then suddenly were going to be horrendously brittle at the back
Suga3;
I think Wilshire is a tough little fella and can handle himself. His skill and intelligence can get him out of danger too… But I take your point.
guys, anyone who is considering Watt as a viable option for anything but the Carling Cup is talking out of his arse, no offense…
I am gonna stick my head in the sand and not believe any of the 3 months out stuff yet!
Cheers A.
It’s so frustrating. Our first 11 is a match for anyone. It’s such a shame that we’ll never get to see it.
Our 3 forward positions can be taken by 3 of;
Arshy, Vela, Eduardo, Bendtner, Theo, Rosicky, Nasri, Wilshire…
I’d throw Merida into that too Mang
come on m.g this is arsenal were talking about do you really expect anything less when it comes to the players getting injured,,van persie was due an injury wasn’t he
ARSENAL have been given an almighty scare — with Robin van Persie stretchered off in Italy.
Red-hot hitman Van Persie was hauled off after just 15 minutes of Holland’s friendly in Pescara.
The Gunners’ ace went to ground clutching his leg and Arsene Wenger faces an anxious wait as experts assess the injury.
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OK, that’s a bit better I suppose…
Suga, we would need to be desperate if he were to be picked at the mo, Eduardo and Vela are available, Bendtner will be back soon. He is fifth choice at the moment, and yes I think he’s good enough to be fifth in line.
ManGoonian – Don’t let him suck you in, renounce him, RENOUNCE !!
According to SSN;
RvP to undergo further tests tomorrow. Dutch manager says; “It dush not luke goot…”
Mang that article was out ages ago! We probably won’t know the full extent and get an accurate estimation for a couple of days. That Dutch article, not the national team one but the one from a dutch paper said 1 to 10 weeks so you never know!
ssn – he’s having tests tomorrow.
MG,
Dudu, Theo and Rosicky are too unreliable fitness wise, Bendtner, Nasri is not fully match fit, Bendtner won’t be for some time, Vela and Wilshire are not quite there yet (despite bags of talent), which leaves us with Arshavin…
gamble? fuck yes…
guys he’s got the all clear apparently the latest is he’s only broken a toe nail,thank fuck for that
@ BBK
Your right in a sick twisted sort of way. We were glad to hear Cuntley Cunt, Fat Frank and Drogba being out for a month. We orget just how much lady luck likes to spit on us and give us the brunt of her wrath. She continues to smite us with her mighty smite.
fuck Sky just said RVP is bad, 2 months out!!!
Keyser;
Who am I renouncing this time???
W’re not winning fuck all again. This isn’t just the RVP injury, cause there will be plenty more.
No one, and I mean no one has the same mother fucking problems when it comes down to injuries. For the past 3 seasons on physioroom.com, Arsenal have always topped the fucking table.
Its not that we don’t have depth, but how much fucking depth do you need!!!!!!?!?!?!?!! FUck our luck. We’re cursed.
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smite,smite
raynor;
No they didnt!
Eduardo isn’t unreliable SUGA, and Theo has sorted his shoulder thing, which is the reason he was unreliable.
Nasri has been fit for nearly a month now, I’d say he’s about match fit by now. Vela is there too imo, and Bendtner is only 2 and a half weeks out….
sorry. Just seen everybody talking about this….ignore me, carry on as you were
at least we’ll have an excuse if we don’t win anything.
Fuckers at daily mail are talking about missing the rest of the season. I will wait on official news tank you very much.
Suga3;
Jeeez, give it a rest with the doom mongering…Leave that shit to BBK and Pat!
Pat I hope we don’t win fuck all again
ManGoonian – BBK, he was trying to lure you in like the Siren that he is.
for official news add at least another month.
Coach Bert van Marwijk said in a first reaction: “This is particularly bad for Robin. And for his club and for us. The experiment with him in the striker was already after eight minutes in the trash. “
drogba out for a month?
says who?
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/598899/LIVERPOOL-are-ready-to-poach-Eduardo-from-rivals-Arsenal-in-a-pound10million-deal.html
Eduardo certainly won’t be lacking in first team football now!
it’s not just luck, our medical staff must be shit – how is it that Milan are able to play a bunch of fucking pensioners in the league where you get kicked in particularly nasty way week in week out?
we are lacking enforcers too – Song is a good DM, but I cannot see him having enough mean streak and the special kind of intelligence to kick someone deliberately and get away with it…
it’s quite the opposite actually – collects bookings left right and centre for clumsy fouls, and if he gets one v The Mackems we are screwed…
The News of the World’s rubbing it in by starting on Eduardo aswell, we’re running out of strikers, oooh Nooo..
ha ha just read that a,he certainly can’t be complaining about lack of matches
MG, you obviously don’t see that all of our attacking play revolves around him for the most part.
I’ve had enough of speculating. I’ve accepted the worst.
choy apparently despite being declared injured by chelsea, the ivory coast medical staff demanded he turn up for an examination, and their x ray showed he’d broken a rib from the karate kick by Evans.
Did evans ever get charged for that?!
they can have eduardo if they send (a fit) torres our way.
A, MG – it’s not doom mongering, it’s just a cool headed assessment: pessimism is just optimism when you have accurate information
SUGA3 – Because it takes them 3 minutes to complete the nasty tackle. They barely move.
A;
That Eduardo story is a complete load of garbage. Pure bollocks, baseless and totally untrue.
And as you say, he will get a lot more starts from now won’t he…?
SUGA3 the Italian league is much much slower paced, so players can play longer, and get injured less.
It’s not intelligence to kick someone and get away with it, it’s cheating, and I’d rather our players not do it!
Yeah the Eduardo story is laughable, but just ironic that they print it just as Eduardo will be a regular for the next few months! As if we’d sell him to Liverpool for 10 mil anyways, it’s just silly
Suga3;
No mate, its your opinion, flawed and half baked as it is!
could be 4 months for rvp fucked up, worst news all season
I think the solution 2 VP injury is this
DM Song
CM Fabregas AM Nasri
RWF Arshavin CF Eduardo LWF Vela
at least we’re not reliant on rvp for goals. They have been shared throughout the team.
A,
stop being naive – I’d rather have a fire breathing monster in the mid just to be there so that Taylors and Nolans of this world wouldn’t get any funny ideas: ‘rather them than me’ seems fair enough…
So guys…realistically if Robin is out for 2-3 months..how do you see our title challenge?
One thing is for sure…our team will be ultra short now with Bendy and RVP out…..
So you know that means teams will really up the ante at set pieces etc….
I just hope we can keep pace until RVP comes back..we wont have him for any of the big games….unless we go deep into the CL or FA cup..
We will certainly have him back for the run in against the lesser teams though….
The friendlies should be outlawed…especially since the rankings seems rigged anyways….
Bendtner and Eduardo can’t play like RVP does. The best option for us is to buy CHamakh. In terms of linking up, he’ll fill in very nicely for RVP and he’s also much more of a CF. Might miss some easy chances on the ground, but an absolute beast in the air.
Bang on the money Paul, and Eduardo is going to score lots as well.
Pat;
The same RvP who loads of people on here were saying was wasted as the front man?
Now we will just have to adapt won’t we? Its a fucker, but thats show business…
I can guarantee you Drogba and Lamps will be fit against us, as will Cashley. He played against United with the injury, why can’t he play against us?
7 goals 7 assists and thats just league i think we are gona really miss him
pat i agree
Mark;
Of course we will miss him, but i think we would miss vermilli more, if he was out for 2 months…
We will certainly miss him but it ain’t the end of the world. It’s not like we’re liverpool without torres.
A,
agreed, it’s slower paced, but these are fucking 40 year olds we are talking about and our players who are supposed to be in their prime are dropping like flies – we seem to have around 8-10 players injured at all times, don’t tell me it’s OK…
MG, I really don’t care what loads of people said cause most people don’t know what they’re on about.
We will suffer and it starts against Sunderland. Its a big psychological blow to the squad cause whenever we get going, these FUCKING international breaks come up. Blatter can go die. Fucking cunt and his useless fucking scheduling.
I had high hopes for this season and they depended on Cesc, RVP, Song, and our CBs.
No one can replace him, but I do not believe we will fail to adapt neither do I believe we’ll stop creating chances nor that Eduardo will waste many. He will score different types of goals but don’t doubt our Crozillian’s ability to score. The team is perfectly suited for a player like Eduardo, which is why Wenger bought him in the first place when Henry left, we create tons of chances and we’ve been short of a poacher.
this news is as bad as we could have hoped for
niki b or eduardo cant play like van p
Before you have that cow Pat, lets see how we actually do against the almighty effin Sunderland before we do like you and write off our season…
Eduardo is the future…All hail Eduardo!
Pat:
We will suffer and it starts against Sunderland.
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Bah Humbug, we’ll beat Sunderland.
We are really underestimating Eduardo big time people relax as long as Eduardo gets his chance upfront we’ve got nothing 2 worry about
You are missing the point a bit i think…
You do not expect a different player to come in and exactly replicate that injured player… They will play their own game…
Eduardo can play the role, HIS way, IMO.
But I am soooo bored of having to defend Arsenal players…
in the end, we will continue to shoot ourselves in the foot unless Wenger will compromise some pace and agility in favour of weight training – what is the point of having a bunch of Maradonas if you just never get them all fit at once?
and again, it is all about winning stuff – this is a result business, not fucking Paralympics with all this ‘It’s the taking part, dear’ bullshit…
The new formation has many benefits. It suits loads of our players so that a lot of them can come in and fit in…
Im gonna stick a score on Eduardo being top goal scorer!
I’ll be here to laugh when we don’t get 3 pts. against Sunderland. I think we have enough to win, obviously, but all the top team have found it tough against Sunderland.
Why did it have to be RVP? WHy not Arshavin or nasri? FFS our best player always has to get injured. Chillieni was treating the game like some sort of World Cup semifinal. He was the only one actually trying his hardest ffs. He was all over the place with his tackles
I swear half of the people moaning were complaining that Van Persie and the other strikers weren.t scoring enough at the start of the season and the formation didn’t really suit them.
Suga3;
Do you think all our players do, is practice ballet or something?
I imagine there might be a few weight training sessions in there you know…
This is getting ridiculous if it was 1 of the CBs or Song I could understand VP has been outstanding 4 us but seriously Eduardo is getting sharpness back as long as he stays fit we’re fine. But Wenger must play him through the centre.
Keyser;
Exactly mate…
we now have to rely on a player who for me the jury is still out on (yes i said it) he has yet to score goals on a week in week out basis, and has yet to convince wenger hes worthy of a starting place yet
i like eddy and he will score goals, most would playing with our lot, the question is can he do it week in week out like van p has
stats dont lie van p has contributed to 14 goals in 10 games in the league this year and that will be hard to replicate
Lineup for Sunderland ???
……………………Al…………………………
Sagna……..Gallas/Senderos………Vermaelen…….Gibbs
……………………Song………………………..
……Cesc…………………………….Nasri……..
..Rosicky……………Eddy……………….Arsh/Vela….
and what difference does it make exactly Keyser?
Metal;
I agree and I think Eduardo will be played centrally…
Pat – just read back what you just wrote and see if you want to make anything a bit clearer..
Pat Says:
November 14, 2009 at 23:42
I’ll be here to laugh when we don’t get 3 pts. against Sunderland.
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We won’t be seeing you after the match then.
MG,
definitely not enough – Wenger is said not to be the biggest fan of this, as it has negative effect on pace and ability…
fair enough, you want a bunch of midgets to mingle with ‘normals’, get them a bouncer, ffs…
Eduardo is a great player who is suffering a lack of confidence. He’s missed too many sitters so far this season. Hopefully he’ll get a few against Sunderland.
We have to be more direct with Eduardo.
SUGA3 – What are you on about Weight training ?!
Heh were you one of the people ? If you can’t work out the difference then there’s not much point in conversating.
Pat;
You’re be laughing if we dont beat Sunderland???
Oh dear…
*agility
Keyser, I’m just saying I wouldn’t be surprised if Sunderland beat us. I think we’ll win, but you all are guaranteeing we’ll win. I think it’ll be one of those days where we struggle to find our rhythm. I thought that before the RVP injury and I still think that
Suga3;
I suggest you satop posting stuff till you aint soooo effin high mate!
Denilson, Vela and Theo, not to mention Cesc and RvP are players who have bulked up…
You really are chatting some random shit mate…
SUGA3 – Where did you read that about Weight training and so on ? Wenger doesn’t like them starting on weights too early because it stunts growth and can hinder technical development, not later on once they’ve grown into their bodies, look at Fabregas now.
Funny how the Mancs rarely ever get injuries while its the norm for us.
Keyser,
get off your fucking high horse, will ya?
point is that the formation did not suit RvP in the beginning of the season, now that he found his feet there, some Italian fuck just couldn’t help himself and have a wank or something before the meaningless friendly to get off some steam and not play as if his miserable life was at stake…
Mark G please some persepctive Eduardo has been injured throughout the season has hardly played any games 2 get his sharpness (though recently he has) and of course goals means confidence if you’re suggesting VP is a better finisher then Eduardo something that even the most hardcore VP fan would never be brave enough 2 claim then say it but you’re opinion on Eduardo is unfair and clearly has not been thought with consideration.
Why was Chiellini playing so hard for a fucking friendly?
Anyway Karma will strike and Italy will drop out first round in the World cup
At least Cesc only played 30 mins…hopefully he doesnt play the full 90 in the other game as well…
Atleast we know that Sunderland wont park the bus….we will get chances and a back to form Eduardo will bury them…
I am not worried about Sunderland….I am just worried out the length of time RVP will be out and whether or not he come back at the level he was before….
MG,
look at the usual suspects mate – not the stockiest characters, are they?
People don’t realize how vital RVP was to this system. Its not just his goals and assists.
Pat – Was just saying about the laughing bit, don’t turn into some of the gimps you get on here that try to rub it in when we’ve lost.
Strangely enough I’m always aware of the dangers any team can pose, but they’re without Cattermole and Jones, thats got to be something, we should just wait and see on the Van Persie injury, even then it’s a long long season ahead of us.
OK, van persie was in very good form. But our season is not over yet!! Eduardo is very good, and i trust him. But personally i see vela instead of him! This is the chance for Vela. Come on guys if you think that this is a shit line-up than you are not serious!
almunia,sagna,gallas,vermealen,gibbs
nasri,song,fabregas
rosicky/nasri/walcott(he trains this week),eduardo/vela,nasri/arshavin/vela
We have a very good squad. And this is a must know!!!
RvP is not out for the rest of the season, v,marwijk came out and said that it will be 10 weeks! So two months. Trust in vela and eduardo. WTF guys, we can win the title without RvP!
MG, Eduardo has been anything but a good finisher this season. He’s had our worst misses of the season I think.
SUGA3 – High horse ? heh.
Point is, there wasn’t any real reason for concern then, but people tried to find one, Van Persie’s out, but then it doesn’t mean we can’t work around it, this year we’ve scored goals from almost everywhere, we could probably put Vermaelen up front.
Dutchman,
the only way we can win things is when we keep our key players fit and RvP was the main cog in the attacking 3…
Suga3;
I like the way you are sticking to your guns… BUT, this idea all the players need to be huge brick shit houses is an out dated concept, IMO… Body strength is important and I am sure that gets worked on, at the right time…
yep eddie can step up.. he did it the season before last and i’m sure he can do it again.
get well soon rvp
rvp’s missed more pat
Keyser,
like Pat said, it’s not just goals and assists, it’s the attention, pulling oppo players out of their positions, etc.
Pat with all due respect do not exarrage mate I am all 4 criticisiing players if they deserve it but exaggeration is something I cant stand he’s missed one sittier the other chances he would have most likely burried had he been sharp with soaring confidence but the chance 2 chip Gomes was the sitter that’s it.
Pat;
Look, you are on a downer, that is clear… But Eduardo has not exactly played regularly.. But, if the news is confirmed and RvP is out for a while, then he will get games and he will score…
Keyser, no. I wouldn’t actually laugh, but I would be cunt about it and I’ll admit it. They were without Jones and cattermole against Spurs but played some brilliant stuff at the Lane. Bent buries that pen and they’d win the game imo.
Turner is out for them too though, so thats better for us
SUGA3 – Weren’t you alos asking for Vela to be given more time ?!
Look at all the options we have, Vela’s pace will pull players in different directions, obviously I’m not guaranteeing it will work right away, but how many different options do all these players give us.
Arshavin seemed to be having a quiet few games and then popped up with 3 assists in a game.
Pat;
You keep goinm on about this immense amazing performance against the spuds, like it was the best game in history…
They lost 2 effin nil though!
I’ll take that thanks fella!!!
Pat – As long as you remember you’re being a cunt about it, I don’t get why anyone would do that, actually thats fucking ridiculous.
If we win I’m not going to rub it in your face because at the end of the day we both want Arsenal to win ?!
SUGA, come on, what a bullshit!! Yes, he was good. But for the season begins we always talked about eduardo(how good he is). And now RvP played beautiful,is injured and our title can we forget. WHAT A BULLSHIT!! We will that vela played more games, this is his chance. We will that eduardo play games, he can!! Trust the team. We are not a team that rely on one person!
MG,
it’s not about being the big lumps, it is about strengthening the key areas of the body where the injuries are most likely to occur – if you are ‘bigger’, you are even more likely to survive a fucking car crash, let alone some kicking during the game…
looking back at the Invincibles – they were big and more than able to stand their ground, now we have plenty of flair players and no enforcers: I liked the way Fabregas kicked Repka a few seasons ago in the CL for trying to rough us up and talking shit before the game – what happened? I’d rather have a few cups than fucking halos…
Pat I realize how vital VP is trust me and had some strong words 2 say about his consistency and his finishing when the season started and he shut me up and made me eat humble he is by far techniquly speaking the best striker in the counrty but seriosuly relax what Eduardo lacks in VP’s creativity he makes up 4 in ice cold finishing as soon as he scores gets more and more minutes and crucially confidence you’re gonna wonder what the fuss was about VP is a player we do need back but Eduardo you just have 2 remember is the best finisher at the club and IMO with games will easily prove 2 be the best finisher in the country RELAX there is nothing 2 worry about trust me as long as Eduardo is played through the centre the goals are gonna keep flowing in.
Look its disapointing obviously, but this is a chance for others to come in and do a job and luckily, we do actually have players who can come in…
Time will tell, but, once again, i fail to see any possible reason to be goin on like we have lost games, BEFORE we have actually played them!?!?
There’s loads of opportunity to be all gloomy if we lose…
Keyser,
regarding Vela, yep, I’m a big fan, but I am not holding my breath – Wenger will not play him, we have:
- Diaby
- Bendtner
- Eboue
and yes, he will play them all upfront…
Bendtner is injured, Diaby wont play in that forward position and Eboue wont either… Not in front of Vela anyways… maybe infront of vermilli though…
Maybe RvP shouldve done some weight training on his ankle muscles Suga3???
Suga3 – FFS, don’t start that now, Bendter’s out, Vela’s coming back to fitness finally and it’s obvious he’s going to play unless Eduardo gets a run instead.
Diaby doesn’t play in Vela’s position nor does Ebway.
As a RVP fan I’m very very disappointed that he will be missing in action….. really…I’m depressed rite now…but I trust our squad too.. I’m 100 % certain someone will step up and fill the void….. Eduardo,Vela, Arshavin, Theo can all play as strikers..and trust me We will win games easily even now….. RVP will be missed but he’ll be back and help clinch the title comfortably…..
Wish he recovers soooon!!!!
I cant belive some of us are feeling insecure
DM Song
CM Fabregas AM NasriArshavin
RWF Arshavin/Nasri CF Eduardo LWF Vela
Come on you cant be serious.
keyser.. actually they do
choy – Eh ?!
diaby and eboue have both played in the front two positions
diaby has played on the left and eboue on the right!
i just hope the team gets over the injury mentally….there is absolutely no reason why we cant win …… I just dont want the fellows to think too much about it…remember how Eduardo’s injury fucked our season ….Just the mental shock of that injury broke us apart…. I dont want it to happen again….
just last week all of us were drooling over how many attacking options we have and now with one player down u guys seem to be knocked out already… We have a lot of options and I am sure we will continue scoring for fun……
Choy – We’ve had this conversation I think, Vela hasn’t played much, if at all on the right, so thats out, unless you’re saying he should play there, which is comething else completely, Diaby’s played there when we’ve had injuries.
We’ver also got Nasri back and Walcott to call on hopefully.
———Almunia———–
Bac—Gallas—-TV—-Gibbs
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———–Song————
—Cesc——Diaby/Nasri—
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–TR——Eddy—–Arsh—-
doesn’t look too bad, but TR’s & Eddy’s fitness is questionable…
choy;
Front 2 positons? Erm, we play 4-3-3 now fella…
Diaby’s position is in midfield, Eboue is more likely to play RB these days…
To suggest both have more chance of playing than vela is simply not the case, IMO.
Or this;
———Almunia———–
Bac—Gallas—-TV—-Gibbs
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———–Song————
—Cesc——Diaby—
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–Nasri——Eddy—–Arsh—
Exactly guys, it doesn’t look bad. We have a good squad and don’t forget that fabregas can give meufifull balls to everyone in the field. And for the another time!! RvP will be out for 10 weeks or less. Tomorrow we know more.
What I would say about RVP ; he’s an awkward fucker.
His movements, taking swipes and leaving his foot out to pasture, leaving it open to potential contact with an opposing player.
Many times this season I’ve thought “oh shit, he’s done something”, and here we are.
Step forward, Carlos Vela.
Ardentgooner I don’t think we lost games becuz of the shock of Eduardos injury ‘that season’ but more becuz Adebayor refused 2 pass 2 Bendtner and kill that game of and becuz we had cover like senderos in the back and Bendtner up front which explains all those draws. Are squad is much much stronger and efficient then that of that year.
Or this;
———Almunia———–
Bac—Gallas—-TV—-Gibbs
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———–Song————
—Ramsey——Nasri—
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–Theo——Eddy—–Vela—
MG good team minus Diaby I’d prefer Ramsey who apperantly was excellent 4 Wales today.
MG.. i meant LW and RW of the front 3 if you want to be really pedantic
You’re the one being a tad arsey choy… I only wanted to know what you meant by front 2…
This IMO would be deadly
———Almunia———–
Bac—Gallas—-TV—-Gibbs
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———–Song————
—Fabregas——Arshavin—
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–Theo——Eddy—–Vela—
With Theo and Vela interchanging
If we win against Sunderland, it will be very good. Because the other top 4 teams have dropped points there. And with this team it must be a win.
almunia,sagna,gallas,vermealen,gibbs
nasri/ramsey,song,fabregas
rosicky/nasri/walcott,eduardo/vela,vela/arshavin
Beautiful teeam!!!
I don’t know what some of you talking about, but vela,denilson and walcott are traing this week. So they are avaible!
Metal our draws were nothing to do with who was up front and who was in defence. VP was playing when we had the draws! It was a total lack of creativity in midfield without Cesc and Rosicky. We created no chances at all, I really don’t see that happening now, Cesc, Arshavin, Nasri, Rosicky, and even Ramsey, Merida, and Wilshere are all creative players, unless all but one or two of them are injured I think we’ll be fine!
Everyone knows we play 433
Eboue has been played all over the pitch.
Diaby has played on the left of the front 3, it could happen again.
Of course it COULD happen… But i just dont think it will, well, not at the expence of vela anyway…
I’d be surprised to see Vela AND Theo start together. I reckon we’ll usually have one direct player, and one playmaker, so one of Theo and Vela, and one of Nasri and Rosicky, but not usually either of those pairs. Though Arshavin is kind of both so he could play on the opposite flank to any of them!
Why do people say Theo is back training, is that confirmed??
Other sites ar saying also that he will be out for 2 months!! I’am happy with that.
choy eboue has only played anywhere other than right back 4 times this season, and only away at utd there were real alternatives. diaby has played left of the front three once this season
As good as RVP has been this season, I would prefer him to be injured rather than Arshavin, Nasri, Rosicky, and Fabregas.
RVP still has some flaws in his game. He lacks real pace over the top, can be immobile in tight spaces. We might be bit more flowing in the final third with a Vela or Eduardo.
RVP’s quality at set-pieces and his general consistency are a big loss though. One of the most efficient players around.
I think he’s back in training after the break.
A you do know I was talking about the season after Henry left if u do then you are incoreect about Fab not being in the team we had Hleb and Fab who we’re defintly in the team and Rosicky was injured 4 97%/98% of that season so Rosicky injury is ireelevant we coped fine without him but Wenger the stubborn git played Eboue on the wing 4 practically the whole season when he had Walcott who could offer more and eventually it hurt us big time.
yeah choy that’s what Wenger said, so starts training a week monday, but others have said he’s back
So I read the bad news… Calvin Harris chucked off x-factor… what a bummer?
Oh… and our best striker out with ligament damage.
Fucking lovely… it’s never your out of form striker is it?
What a joke…
Big opportunity ahead for someone….
Right, catch up with you all tomorrow!
so is that 5?
guess who was on the bench at OT?
point is that wenger has his favourites and i hate to see the likes of vela, eddie, theo missing out gametime and someone else playing in their positions.
but i think we’ll be ok.
ah ok metal, i thought you meant last season, apologies. Theo was very young back then though. I was confused because you said Bendtner played, and he barely played at all that year
no choy, 4 including utd, in all comps.
vela hasn’t been at the club and fully fit once this season! now he is he’ll play much more, you’ve not seen a fully fit vela or theo missing out on gametime to eboue once this season, nor a fully fit eduardo!
Has anyone the ramsey goal????
Choy 2 true that’s the problem we’re all 2 familiar with in regards 2Wenger’s player selection.
Dutchman it’ll be on 101 great goals, nice goal, good assist for the first too
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Ramsey’s goal was class. Good piece of skill to get past 1 player and then a somewhat lucky bounce back into his path to score the goal
no,it isn’t on 101greatgoals.com
A he played towards the end of the season I know Theo was young but he offered more in the few minutes he played in true say he was a super sub but Eboue that year adapting 2 this brand new positing was tomrenting me 2 near suicide I felt Theo needed a run longer then he was givin.
A, and his pass was largely responsible for the 2nd
How fucking great would it be if it was just major bruising for RVP? I remember we thought Hleb would be out for ages after that cunt Carew tackled him. he went off on a stretcher and Wenger expected the worst. He ended up missing the midweek game and was back playing after a week
Ramsey scored one and created the other two goals for Wales in the friendly win.
“Aaron is going to be a great, great player and he will be one of the best in Europe when he is in his prime,” he said.
“Like his Arsenal team-mate Cesc Fabregas did, he is developing well at such a young age.
“And I played for Wolves against him last week and he was probably Arsenal’s best player as he has such a mature head for such a young player.”
Ramsey was awarded the man-of-the-match honour despite playing less than an hour as fellow promising teenager Joe Allen had the difficult task of replacing him in the 57th minute.
“I’ve known him for years and from day one you knew this player was destined for great things,” said the Swansea midfielder.
“And now he is coming of age for club and country.”
Metal if Bendter made more than 7 or 8 starts i’d be very surprised. Theo was good as a super sub, his pace tore tiring teams apart, but he wasn’t great when he started games. I would’ve played Eboue too because he offered a tiny bit less going forward but was more defensively. Theo was a great super sub too, great player to have on the bench. Our squad then was really shocking compared to now wasn’t it!
A the defensive argument is a myth most the goals we conceded came from the right I actuaclly said it at the time unfortunatly I was on another Forum as I was’nt aware of Le Grove at the time
I’ve seen the future, RVP out for less then 2 weeks.
Seriously, really depressing, at the worst fucking time.
aaah ye, been reading here for a while but never wrote anything before, so hello
Great blog.
I’m really hoping for some good news tomorrow.
Metal gotta disagree there, I remember at the time arguing the opposite, because very few of our goals came from the right! That was Sagna’s first season, in which he was an absolute revelation and got all the credit, but Eboue deserved alot more credit for how good Sagna was that season imo.
“And when I was left on the bench at West Ham against Arsenal, Thierry Henry bumped into me afterwards and said ‘Hey, what are you doing here? Come and play with us. It’s incredible you can’t get a game in this team’.”
-Tevez
A no way build up goals most of them started from the right I made it my personal duty 2 watch Eboue and see if this Eboue defence was justifiable and indeed this was not the case.
MG, we were very, very solid on the right in 07/08 and the united game at the Emirates demonstrated this perfectly. When Eboue and Sagna were on the field, United didn’t create a single chance from that side. The Theo came on for Eboue. You remember the rest…evra run, saha backheel, evra cross, CR goal.
All our problems in the season came down the left. Aliadiere penalty when we lost to Boro. Clichy fuck up against Brum. Berba goal from tight angle. All of that in that 5-6 winless streak we had
Losing players to international duty is one thing, however when it is meaningless friendlies like Holland’s match last night it is such a bitter pill to swallow, especially when it is arguably one of your better players. Arsene Wenger needed Van Persie’s injury like a hole in head, especially as we carry on our title assault.
It was always going to happen and fate has dealt its hand. In a week that was full of Robin van Persie and how he is finally found his best form and consistency in his game, having remained injury free after years of battling against them at Arsenal sees himself get crocked in the next game he is played.
The injury looked a bad one and if it is ankle ligaments, then you are talking a few months oppose to weeks and it will prove a massive body blow to our hopes to the season as Van Persie, along with Cesc, Arshavin and Vermaelen are the mainstay in this team. The Dutchman can be replaced by Eduardo, or perhaps move Arshavin more centrally, but they have big boots to fill given the impressive performances that Van Persie has been putting in.
It is the second blow in a week for Wenger with Bendtner’s injury worse than first feared and which has seen the Dane having to go under the surgeon’s knife. They say bad luck comes in threes, let’s hope for the sake of our title challenge that we get through the rest of this next week unscathed.
Pat we’ll have 2 agree 2 diasagree yes it’s true Eboue in certain games was awesome particularley against Man U and yeah I do remember Theo coming on and Evra doing what he did true very true. But overall we drew 2 many and this had a lot 2 do with Eboue being on the pitch it was like playing with ten men I give u an example of what I’m tryna say last season we went thorugh a period when we drew many games conceded no goals and could not score either this is becuz our midfeild was like this….
RM Eboue DM Song CM Denilson/Diaby LW Diaby/Denilson
Now u could argue it was good that we did not concede goals but then you have 2 balance that out as 2 why we could not create enough chances 4 our forwards 2 score that’s the point I’m making look at that midfield
fuck international football.
I second that AA23. As pedro said its never your out of form striker that gets these months long injuries its always the ones thats red hot.
Lets just hope for the best. Massive chance this for Vela. Lets just hope Wenger isn’t a dick and decide to just move Diaby further forward because of his ‘beleif he is WC.’ Like for like changes this time Le profesor.
We are just going to have to change the formation or play Cesc as a Forward the way Spain did today.
I think its brilliant that Cesc can do what RVP does for us.
Id play Rambo/Nasri/Rosicky where Cesc is now and move Cesc up to where RVP is.
————Back 5
Rosicky—–Song—-Nasri
Theo/Vela—-Cesc—Arshavin
The way Cesc is putting them in he might as well be a forward.
Imo we have many more midfielders than Central Strikers…and I like what i saw from Cesc today against Argentina.
Will be interesting to see what Arsene does.
Also Cesc can drop deep like RVP does and make a brilliant pass or link up with someone.
PLEASE RVP GET WELL SOON!!!
This is some player ranking sponsored by some poxy oil company. Where is Cesc
RANKPLAYERPOSITIONNationalityClub1(1)Thierry HenryFORWARDFranceBarcelona9782(2)Lionel MessiFORWARDArgentinaBarcelona9643(3)Cristiano RonaldoMIDFIELDERPortugalReal Madrid9144(4)Gerard PiqueDEFENDERSpainBarcelona9095(5)Fernando TorresFORWARDSpainLiverpool9036(6)Samuel Eto’oFORWARDCameroonInternazionale8867(7)Rafael MárquezDEFENDERMexicoBarcelona8848(8)Luca ToniFORWARDItalyBayern München8779(9)Carles PuyolDEFENDERSpainBarcelona87610(10)Claudio PizarroFORWARDPeruWerder Bremen86611(11)Daniel AlvesDEFENDERBrazilBarcelona86012(12)Nemanja VidicDEFENDERSerbiaManchester United85713(13)David VillaFORWARDSpainValencia85614(14)Frank LampardMIDFIELDEREnglandChelsea85215(15)Miroslav KloseFORWARDGermanyBayern München84615(15)Edin DzekoFORWARDBosnia and HerzegovinaVfL Wolfsburg84617(17)Steven GerrardMIDFIELDEREnglandLiverpool82317(17)Emmanuel AdebayorFORWARDTogoManchester City82319(19)Christian AbbiatiGOALKEEPERItalyMilan82220(20)Roberto SoldadoFORWARDSpainGetafe809
AA23 could’nt agree more the fact that we could be losing VP 4 so long is just not on
It looks a bit scrambled
(1)Thierry HenryFORWARDFranceBarcelona9782
(2)Lionel MessiFORWARDArgentinaBarcelona9643
(3)Cristiano RonaldoMIDFIELDERPortugalReal Madrid9144(4)Gerard PiqueDEFENDERSpainBarcelona9095
(5)Fernando TorresFORWARDSpainLiverpool9036
(6)Samuel Eto’oFORWARDCameroonInternazionale8867
(7)Rafael MárquezDEFENDERMexicoBarcelona8848
(8)Luca ToniFORWARDItalyBayern München8779
(9)Carles PuyolDEFENDERSpainBarcelona87610
(10)Claudio PizarroFORWARDPeruWerder Bremen86611
(11)Daniel AlvesDEFENDERBrazilBarcelona86012
(12)Nemanja VidicDEFENDERSerbiaManchester United85713(13)David VillaFORWARDSpainValencia85614
(14)Frank LampardMIDFIELDEREnglandChelsea85215
(15)Miroslav KloseFORWARDGermanyBayern München84615(15)Edin DzekoFORWARDBosnia and HerzegovinaVfL Wolfsburg84617
(17)Steven GerrardMIDFIELDEREnglandLiverpool82317
(17)Emmanuel AdebayorFORWARDTogoManchester City82319(19)Christian AbbiatiGOALKEEPERItalyMilan82220
(20)Roberto SoldadoFORWARDSpainGetafe809
Still no Cesc
FAB4 didn’t play as a forward. He came in for Xavi. His style of play is different to Xavi in that he goes forward more instead of staying deep.
When you have a deeplaying playmaker like Xabi Alonso in your team and Iniesta he doesn’t have to be the main playmaker. If you recall last season we played FAB$ as a second striker a role in which he was distinctly average.
I would never advocate changing Fab4 role in the team. He plays with freedom in front of the defensive 2 and he does just fine, he is after all our top scorer. Leavehim where he is.
Losing RVP in a pointless friendly is absolutely sickening.
Hey David..I say just get Eddy in there…
Cesc can continue making his late runs and score goals…
Also Vela can get some games in now…..
Its not so bad..I only worry that the team has gotten smaller…..so set pieces might become a problem again…
RVP11 out for months. In a fuck’n friendly that ended 0-0. What is the point of such a fixture.
zeus thats the sort of shit I wanted 2 say but I could’nt be bothered how people forget that we lost alot of creativity when Fab was pushed foward is beyond me
I could give two fucks about international football. I wouldnt give a fucking shit if England won the world cup unless an Arsenal player scored.
There is absolutely no point to friendlies..
FUUUCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK….
WHy even bother when internationals are played so few and far between..why make plans based on those few and far between games?
Thank god that that was the last of these friendlies for the rest of 2009. And heres to Arsenal continued many different goal-scorers sharing responsibility. And heres to Wenger not going all cunty and playing Diaby and Eboue further forward. Rosicky and Nasri will get their goals over the coming weeks but we still need natural finisher i.e. Vela and Eduardo.
why is that certain useless players never get injured and the good ones do?
I am fucking gutted, as one cannot realistically expect Dudu to stay fit and play full 90 minutes week in week out…
Kuyt said Italians were going more for their ankles that for the ball – fucking hate them…
cunts, they were trying to injure players, as they know that they will be meeting us in the CL and they know they have no chance in hell with everyone fit…
Fucking dirty Italians…..
I hate them….I was really upset when they won the last world cup……I hope the fuckers drop out first round in south africa….
Fuck them….
and what is even worse, this game was supposed to be a kind of a fundraiser for the local earthquake victims…
FUCK.
Lets wait a couple days and see what position we are in. What wories me a bit now is Arshavin is going to give his all to qualify for SA 2010 and we know his fitness problems have had a stop start effect on him this season already. We need his spark at Sunderland we must keep pace with Chelsea and get breathing space with United.
Step up Carlos. This is your chance!
assuming him being out for 3 months, we will miss him in games v Chavs, Pool, Villa and United…
David. Fucking. Villa.
Money. No. Object.
This must be some curse though from the Mancs, First its Toress then Drogba now RVP. WTF why is Rooney still walking?
all right, I’m off
Get well soon Robin…
Hey Zeus ..can you imagine the undeserving Manure team winning the trophy again because their rivals suffer these injury crises…
That would be fucking sad..because Manure lack quality and dont deserve to win anything…
Depending on how RVP’s injury progresses..we might need to get Chamakh in to play the central striker role..because we know that we wont buy someone like Villa…
But Wenger probably wont buy because he will be thinking that next season he will have too many strikers….
I hope Bendy comes back better than ever…
F***rak just heard about robin….writing hate mail to dutch FA…..ffs…Wegner will be beyond mental over this
Also, what makes RVP so effective is that he drops deep and plays like a CAM a lot. Usually, a CB is set out to man mark him. However, if the CB forgets his other duties and only sticks to “gluing himself” to RVP, that leaves the center of defense exposed. Actually, I think that happened against WOlves for our 2nd goal.
have some faith people
nasri and rosicky have hardly played any games.
if one of them plays as part of the front three, they can provide the link up play while eduardo/vela can bang the goals in. although rvp was central,the front three were interchanging quite a lot.
vs. Sunderland
Almunia
Sagna Gallas Verm Gibbs
Cesc Song Nasri
Eboue Eduardo Arshavin
Personally, I wouldn’t want to risk Rosicky so I put Eboue there. Rosicky is very efficient and he has to be fit for Chelsea.
Or Wenger could go with Diaby in place of nasri and Nasri in place of Eboue which is the most likely scenario.
Theo, Denilson might get some minutes as well, no?
Also, who else in our squad could have scored those crucial goals against Blackburn and Birmingham. We do our best when we score early and the way he takes his first touch to set himself up is excellent
We didn’t only lose a great striker today. We lost a player that leaves his all on the pitch, a player who has become captain material against the odds. A leader at Arsenal football club. We lost someone who loves the club, who plays with such a passion. We need a cocky bastard to give the opposition a kick once in awhile.
The quicker he gets back, the better our chances of success.
i miss rvp already
stop making me feel so depressed pat
vs sunderland
almunia
sagna gallas vermi gibbs
cesc song nasri
rosicky eduardo arshavin
we should put out our strongest 11 as the game after the international break is when we are not at our best. if we loose it,the loss will break our momentum and the chelsea game will become thougher
(quote)Ja_Gunner Says:
November 15, 2009 at 02:52
Hey Zeus ..can you imagine the undeserving Manure team winning the trophy again because their rivals suffer these injury crises…
That would be fucking sad..because Manure lack quality and dont deserve to win anything…
Depending on how RVP’s injury progresses..we might need to get Chamakh in to play the central striker role..because we know that we wont buy someone like Villa…
But Wenger probably wont buy because he will be thinking that next season he will have too many strikers….
I hope Bendy comes back better than ever…
(/quote)
Couldnt agree more JA
this is why RVP will never be great he has the potential no doubt but niggling injuries like this will never let him have a successful career
I could Remember a few week back when Wenger was talking about Rvp scoring 25 goals a season i thought to myself could he last a season? and yes he couldn’t and will be out of the season. i wouldn’t be devastated though i just hope Eddy and the rest step up their games and give us another option going forward
Injuries is like somebody dropping dead you have that feeling they will never be there again
Gunner, thats a bit over the top. He hasn’t been injured for a long time and we labeled him a crock when he was out with a metatarsal injury and a serious knee injury. I wouldn’t call him an injury prone player. All that was exaggerated at the time.