Jack Wilshere is targeting the quarter final game against shitty as his come back game, he hopes they will field their strongest side as he believes we can go on and win the Carling Cup.
I wonder how Kolo and Ade the whore will feel trotting out knowing we only field our babies in this one, how will they feel when they get stuffed by them? The last time Ade played in this cup was the time he head butted a team mate for daring to challenge him, let’s hope he does that this time, he’ll get a smack in the mouth if he did it to the Welsh runt Bellamy, now that would be funny!
I would love Arsene to go through our players and tell us which position he sees them in, so Vela and Nasri on the left, Rosicky, Wilshere and Theo on the right, and so on, just so we could wonder amongst ourselves who might play where.
Suffice to say, I can’t wait for this one, it smacks of that time our kids tonked the scousers 6-3, with Aliadiere and the Beast getting on the scoresheet.
Other news is Wenger is tracking Barcelona winger 18 year old Israeli Gai Assuilin. He is one of their finest young talents, and that would be sweet, sweet, justice for them talking to one of our young kids, Karma if you like.
Get in there Arsenal, that’s what you should be doing.
I don’t know who he’ll pick for the Carling Cup game, and I don’t know if Eastmond will have a better game again, but I would like to see him, Wilshere, Vela, Ramsey, Watt and Coquelin feature along with Eduardo, Eboue and Rosicky for experience, maybe even playing Theo up front with Watt.
We sure do have options, but I want to win this one, what do you think Grovers?
Have a great day debating, I’ll be on later.
so we are linked with a player called gai and mesut,has anyone seen much of these two??????
i feel there is far to much focus has been put on toure and ade for next carlingcup game wenger stoped thinking about those 2 long a ago and its just another game,i would not play rvp at all we need think about keeping your best players fresh for the prem and champoins legue if this was carling cup final then it might be worth playing him but unless that happens wenger should stick with young players and its very important see hwo well these young players perform away from home
no leon wenger should not stick with these young players we need to win something and this comp is a good chance to do that
Theo cannot play central in our current system mainly because he cannot hold the ball up, and does not have enough composure, his pace is perfectly suited the playing on the right in our current system, cesc, arsh and rvp will find him all day long
Geoff;
Maybe my maths is bad, but how could we be 4 points clear exactly? We are 5 points behind and have dropped 8 points all season… The fact you are suggesting we should’ve won every game is daft enough, but do we get an extra point for being cool too? Oh, you must be including the game in hand we havent played yet.
Your logic is still way dodgy. Been a long day huh?
Vela is perfectly suited to our brand of 4-3-3, as is Theo, nasri, Rosicky, Wilshire, Watt, Sunu and so on… It aint a coincidence or a fluke either…
Gunnergetyou;
I imagine Theo is destined for that right side of the 3 fella…
BBK;
You fancy a side bet to go along with our other mcn shitty bet?
bbk it depends on prem games and champoins legue and yes it simportant to win something but also i feel its good to have a blend of young players + experienced players and i dont think its worth risking rvp for early stages of carling cup but again it all depends on fixtures and injuries and rvp,song,gallas vern ahve played every week,i feel the young players we have are good enough just need some experienced players
the league cup doesn’t count as winning something for the first team! 3rd and winning nothing is better than 4th and winning the league cup imo
A;
I agree there. FFS! We are probably the only country that has 2 domestic cups anyways… Sure it’d be nice for the yutes…
True Mang, and the only country where the main domestic cup is taken very seriously! The FA Cup is the most prestigious domestic cup competition in the world, and even that isn’t a big deal anymore, the league cup is just a joke, but has been made semi-worthwhile as it’s good experience for the kids
the league cup would be a good start for a team that aint won anything for 4-5 years, unless you count the fa youth cup
if we play a mixture of youth and experience we have a good chance,
but i dont think we can win anything with silvest, senderous and gilbert in our defence at the same time.
GGY;
Well, they did well in the last game. I think Gilbert might give way to Eboue, actually. And I thought both Silvestre and Senderos did well too.
But as A says, we are the only league to have 2 domestic cups and its pretty daft to make it out to be a big deal… Its only the media and likkle teams like the spuds that big it up.
well prehaps if the first team played in the league cup more offen and went on to win it they might be able to go on and win the league due to knowing what its like to actually win something.As it stands it’s the only real sort of chance of winning something but only if wenger puts a a first team 11
you woud rather finish 3rd and win nothing thats the sort of shite that people get excited about hese days and why we have settled for shit for so long
yeah mang, but i just cant wait for the media to shut-the-fuck-up about our trophy drought, its mentioned every time we play.
It’s a reflection of how football has changed BBK, finishing one place higher up is more of an achievement than winning the league cup now, but some fans havn’t cottoned on to that.
ggy sendy and silvestre did well last time, i’m going for
fabianski
eboue senderos silvestre traore
ramsey denilson merida
theo vela wilshere
I reckon that team could beat city
Oh dear BBK.
You seriously think winning the poxy carling Cup will lead to any other success? hats hilarious!
Wenger’s record in the carling cup is pretty effin good anyways. Fergie would only play his kids if he could, but trhey’d get stuffed by the likes of Coventry at home!
nah it’s not a especially if we claim to be a big club that keeps on banging on about how much talent we posses but continue to serve up the same bollocks
though if it’s the difference between 11th and 12th then winning the league cup is probably better actually, but the difference between playing in europe and not, or going into the group stages and having the qualify, is much much greater and more significant for the future of the club than winning the league cup or not.
yeah wengers record is great a few semi finals a final but never won it
Gunnergetyou;
Yeah, I know mate. Every article’s 1st paragraph will mention it wont they! Twats the lot of em…
I think we have a good chance of beating the northern chavs whoever gets a game…
bbk we are a big club, so the league cup doesn’t matter to us, it only matters to little clubs, who have no chance of winning anything else. The league, champs league, and fa cup to a lesser extent are the be all and end all, the league cup would just be an irritating inconvenience if it wasn’t the chance to give the kids playing time. It’s BECAUSE we’re a bit club that it doesn’t matter.
BBK
Of FFS! You are a whiny old soak mate! Its the ONLY effin domestic thing he hasnt won!
a each year we qualify for the champions league we get to the quarters semis play english teams and get knocked out we got to the final for the first time and lose,are we ever going to actually win the thing? we have been empty handed in the league for 5 years now,prehaps if we go on to win the carling cup we just might be able to go on and win some more silverware it won’t hurt will it to actually put out our strongest 11 and try and win the thing
being that theres only premier league teams left in the league cup, it could be harder to win than the fa cup, depending on the draw. how else could you explain a portsmouth vs cardiff final. im sure all the clubs left in the competition will be taking it seriously, including the mancs and the chavs
a incase you havent noticed we havent won fuck all either for the past 4-5 years is that big club mentality
bbk getting to the quarters of the champs league is a bigger achievement than winning the whole league cup, i care about us competing with the best teams around, not having shiny silverware to put in the trophy cabinet.
“continue to serve up the same bollocks…”
Considering the season is not even half way done and we are scorin goals a plenty, still lookin good in every thing, players have come on big styleee, I really do not understand what you mean?
Unless you are are kinda willing us t fail so you can beat yourself up some more???
we wont win the champions league and we wont win the league the only chance to win something for us are in the domestics
yeah it is bbk, we’ve gotten to the champs league final, and semi final, which is WAY bigger than winning the league cup every season….
compete and end up getting beaten for the past 12 years if that’s achieveing something ,well
it’s not achieving what we want to achieve bbk, but it’s more of an achievement than winning the whole league cup. Being in the top 2, or 4 in Europe, rather than being the best out of a mix of reserve and first teams in the football league and premier league
BBK
Hahaha! You chat about a big club mentality, when you’re the one saying we wont win shit! What a joke…
Its not about winning it’s the taking part bit that counts
m.g we used to be a big club not any more
SO Diaby will play for France.Thats happy news indeed
Why do you bother? It must be such a pain to have to support Arsenal… All the pain and suffering you have to go thru… I mean, Arsenal has always won stuff hasnt it>>> ERm…
m.g if our recent drought does not worry then i think you the one who’s shouldn’t be bothered
yeah it is bbk, we’ve gotten to the champs league final, and semi final, which is WAY bigger than winning the league cup every season….
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I would never agree with it.We were not consistent in the CL last season,and hobbled all along the way till the semis before we lost a decent team.I would have been happy with a domestic cup last season.Not that I care about the mickey mouse cup.
BBK;
I go and watch the team, support the players, etc coz they are my team. I enjoy the games, especially the wins!
If you dont get that same enjoyment (if you go to games, or watch on TV, whatever?) then you seriously should find something else to do with your time…
Winning trophies is fantastic, but what the fuck d you do if we dont?? Stop supporting them? Become a chav, or a manc? What about supprters of the likes of Charlton, Leeds, Scunthorpe??? They must be all fuckin mugs! Supporting teams that wont win the champions league…
I accept there is a price to pay if a club moves to a new stadium.
I happily follow my team who play the best football in the world.
Winning trophies is the icing on the cake.
I am patient – I wish more people were.
Well said. M.G.
Jaguar;
Haha! I almost missed your 1st post fella! Slating Diaby yet again…. Nice work dude!
what a ridiculous logic!Dont say that those fans wouldnt want them to win any silveware?
And if someone finks that Arsenal are in the same league as Charlton,Leeds and the likes,they need to get a reality check,before accusing others of being plastic fans.
Where did I slate Diaby,MG?If I want Diaby to play for France,how am I slating him?;)
that’s charlton,leeds and scunny not arsenal.
Jagyar;
I might have known you show yourself up with your lack of knowledge!!
You mean Leeds, who were in the semis of the CL and spending money like it was goin out of fashion eh?
Or maybe Burnley, Derby, Nott Forest, Sheff Wednesday? You know BIG teams who won titles, but where are they now?
The arrogance to assume that they are not big teams is incredible, considering their history…
BBK;
It is pointless bothering to try and explain it to you. You simply do not getit.
Jabuar;
It was a joke, FFS…
Blackburn rovers had a Premier League title, when Liverpool has zilch.So does it imply somefin?
How do you get my name wrong every single time,MG?
m.g if your happy with entertaining football and no out come that’s up to you im not.
Goonerman;
Well said before dude.
All this patience bollocks what for we want it all and we want it now
Your only saying lets be patience because you know we are going to end up with fuck all again
BBK;
Oh FFS! Its about being a SUPPORTER! Its about goin to the games, havin a laugh, watching the team perfom, seeing players come thru, getting pissed, goin thru the highs and lows… Basically, its about EVERYTHING!
The trophies is a small part of it, dont get me wrong, I get gutted when we lose, took me ages to get over the spud 4-4 last season. But it is about the whole thing, the whole experience..
Those who constantly go on about trophies all the fucking time are missing a trick, IMO…
Its really difficult to explain mate… We’d need to do it over a few beers! Not on here!
B.B.K. Says:
November 12, 2009 at 20:56
Your only saying lets be patience because you know we are going to end up with fuck all again
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
I feckin love you man! Not in a gay way, but you feckin crack me up!!!
Jaguar;
Sorry dude! I dont get it either? The G aint even near the B is it???
Feck me! I need a drink! Anyone fancy a pint???
Laterssssssss
Sorry if I have gone a bit! And sorry if my language has been a bit much too… Didnt mean to antagonise or slate anyone…
Loving your work ManG !!!
“Those who constantly go on about trophies all the fucking time are missing a trick, IMO…”
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2009/11/12/1620641/arsenal-special-thomas-vermaelen-stakes-claim-as-buy-of-the
nice article about ou verminator!
Mangoonian
Re your 20:57 post I couldn’t put it better myself.
We all want to win a trophy as a culmination of a season but there have been much longer periods of time where we have been no where near any success in the past.
I have been regularly going to watch Arsenal play since the Don Howe/Terry Neil era and boy at times were we rubbish.
I agree there have been loads of lows with some highs and people need a little more patience..
Do you guys think that there is genuine interest in Ozil? Why else would his agent refuse to comment on it and he said Ozil needs to concentrate. Would he say that if we haven’t shown an interest?
bbk chats bollocks he thinks were shite and thinks we are the onlybig club not to have won anything for 4-5 years liverpool barcelona inter ac milan have all had spells where they havent won their lge recently for longer then that
wenger has made mistakes during that time but as a whole i wouldnt swap the wenger era for nothing
ihis year the team can do it, yes we need to 1-2 players in jan to help back up the defensive side of our squad, i wouldnt swap our squad for anyones
Well said MarkG
That sort of thing always happens Pat, it’s the same rhetoric every agent comes out with whether there’s anything in it or not! I’d be shocked if there was any genuine interest, Wenger has already talked about needing to make space for the likes of Ramsey and Merida, Wilshere will end up central too, adding another young player to an already overloaded set wouldn’t make much sense to me, not to mention for a fair bit of money.
I can only hope that Wenger wouldnt leave the responsibilities of Alex Song to the likes of Diaby,when he is off to the ACN,without bringing in a quality DM.
It’ll be Denilson there Jaguar, not Diaby, which is absolutely adequate imo, we should be fine for those 3-4 matches. I wouldn’t rule out someone like Matuidi coming in, but they wouldn’t play straight away anyways. I reckon if Wenger thought Diaby could play that role then he would’ve played there rather than Ramsey against Wolves
I am wary of Denilson making an immediate impact. He has played alongside Song the whole of last season.He is more of an interceptor than a tackler. He would do well,if paired alongside an inform Song,but I dont bank on him to do a DM’s job which Song has been doing pretty good this season.Another horrifying aspect would be to see Wenger starting Diaby every single match,citing his height.
thats true jag
for me the only other dm at our club is cocquelin and now eastmond
Jaguar Song and Denilson only both played when Cesc was out, I reckon he’ll be more than capable in a three man midfield of doing the job, more so than in a 4-4-2 alongside cesc. I would expect to see Diaby play to add some physicality against Villa and Bolton away, but there are only four games so even if it was every single match it isn’t that big a deal, we should be fine.
Or I’d also be happy with Senderos playing DM if physicality was THAT necessary, have to just wait and see what happens
Is bbk cheering you all up again?
people might shoot me down for this but I think Nasri could play the dm role very well. I remember reading some French coach saying he could play there as well as Wenger saying it. I know he had a few dodgy trials there before and he is a brilliant attacking threat but I think he could do a job there for a few games .
ThatArsenalGuy when they were talking about Nasri, they were talking about him playing the Pirlo role, deep lying playmaker, alongside a proper defensive player. He hasn’t had any dodgy trials there either! All common mistakes that seem to have been accepted as if they were true! Nasri has never played as our main DM without a proper DM playing, and really couldn’t imo.
”i wouldn’t swap our squad anyones”Are you sure about that
I certainly wouldn’t bbk, absolutely noone in england
”i wouldn’t swap our squad for anyones”Are you sure about that,lets be real now havin djourou,senderos,eboue,bendtner,denilsong,almoonia,fabianski,mannone and the other goal keeper in you squad you are bound to go through a barren spell and a long one at that
If you woulnt want to swap Diaby for Fletcher,then I have absolutely no comments.
Fletcher is an over rated wanker. we did all that this afternoon.
yeah,so was Ronaldo,GM.
I didn’t say that Jaguar. I hate ronaldo but I think he’s probably slightly better than fletcher. I don’t really rate diaby much either but 6 months ago most mancs felt about fletcher like you feel about diaby. Fletcher is trying too hard to be roy keane. Spiteful cunt
I would absolutely swap Diaby for Essien..or even Mikel but thats about it. Oh i do like Zhirkov tho…wouldnt mind him at the grove.
Diaby for Essien is a joke.
Fletchers importance to the mancs just shows how weak thier squad is.
they’d have to give us bosingwa as well
All Fletcher has going for himself if an amazing workrate. Aside from that he is a championship footballer at best.
Diaby = Essien+Cech+Bosingwa+Lampard+150m.
And an uncanny knack of not getting booked by the ref, even after committing horrific fouls,Stu.
And getting sent off in the CL semi and missing the final
That uncanny knack comes as part of being employed by united. All mancs have that “talent”.
And crying that he’s being victimised. Now it’s all Wengers fault apparently
I’m off now. See you later. Diaby is our player. Fletcher is a cheating manc cunt
And Johnny Evans.What a thug!Obertan even worse.
Jaguar Says:
November 13, 2009 at 00:23
If you woulnt want to swap Diaby for Fletcher,then I have absolutely no comments.
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Ahh, if only! Hahaha!
Have you heard the news fucknutz?
Fat Frank is out for 8 weeks, apparantly..
I think A meant swapping entire squads, not just cherry pickin dudes!
goonermichael;
Yes mate, true and check you laters…
Obertan must be one of their shittest buys in recent years. Having seen him come on as a sub in one of their matches he was pathetic. Just stood in the same place for about 30seconds until the ball fell at his feet and missed a sitter. Other than that he has just been anonymous.
Fuckerson’s knack in spotting, the best of diving cheats from round the globe is indeed commendable.
lol what a load of shit these papers love to hype this shit up,cuntpard out for 8 weeks
What happened Fat Frank? Did his ankles finally break under all the weight.
True, could be complete bullshite! But, let’s wait and see my cynical pal!
Him and Rooney had a fight over the last doughnut…
By the time we play the chavs, they’re have no friggin team left…
Ny evil plan is working… Mwoooohaahaahaahaahaa!!!
Good night and good luck…
I’ve never seen Lampard injured and if true, we are very lucky. Him and Cesc always cancel each other out.
Drogba will probably be fit, but Bosingwa and Lampard injuries seem serious.
Collection of Gunners names:-
Does Wenger go for a collection of players names resembling deadly weapons e.g.
AK47 Arshavin, B52 Bomber, RVP Revolver, V5 Verminator
Damn interlull!!
Wtf we supposed to do this weekend?
Just heard about Fat Frank. That’s a shame, isn’t it!
ArsenalKenya: very good point. Love it.
Lampard got a cramp traveling cattle class it seems
arsenal kenya: hahaha spot on
I think it’s BS.
It’s probably a cunning move by Ancelotti to save him for the chavs.
If it’s true then we have no excuse not to tear them a new one on the 29th
Verminatoooorrrrrrrr
Spectacularrrrrrrrr
You can just feel that manure are teetering on the edge of the slide down the gurgler. Can I be the one to give them & their disgusting fans the big shove that sends them tumbling
New post, sorry it’s late!