Jack Wilshere is targeting the quarter final game against shitty as his come back game, he hopes they will field their strongest side as he believes we can go on and win the Carling Cup.
I wonder how Kolo and Ade the whore will feel trotting out knowing we only field our babies in this one, how will they feel when they get stuffed by them? The last time Ade played in this cup was the time he head butted a team mate for daring to challenge him, let’s hope he does that this time, he’ll get a smack in the mouth if he did it to the Welsh runt Bellamy, now that would be funny!
I would love Arsene to go through our players and tell us which position he sees them in, so Vela and Nasri on the left, Rosicky, Wilshere and Theo on the right, and so on, just so we could wonder amongst ourselves who might play where.
Suffice to say, I can’t wait for this one, it smacks of that time our kids tonked the scousers 6-3, with Aliadiere and the Beast getting on the scoresheet.
Other news is Wenger is tracking Barcelona winger 18 year old Israeli Gai Assuilin. He is one of their finest young talents, and that would be sweet, sweet, justice for them talking to one of our young kids, Karma if you like.
Get in there Arsenal, that’s what you should be doing.
I don’t know who he’ll pick for the Carling Cup game, and I don’t know if Eastmond will have a better game again, but I would like to see him, Wilshere, Vela, Ramsey, Watt and Coquelin feature along with Eduardo, Eboue and Rosicky for experience, maybe even playing Theo up front with Watt.
We sure do have options, but I want to win this one, what do you think Grovers?
Have a great day debating, I’ll be on later.
Le Grove is now smart phone compatible!
Pedro
Geoff
November 12, 2009 at 09:02
Boom… Boooom …. Booooooom
Avoidable Useless International Breaks is ANTI-football
November 12, 2009 at 09:02
Second
November 12, 2009 at 09:02
There or thereabouts…podium?
November 12, 2009 at 09:03
Hat-Trick
November 12, 2009 at 09:04
I don’t wish to be negative but City will field a strong side for the game. I don’t think they’ll tonk us by any means but I think it’s going to be tough. We’ll need a touch more experience in the side than usual I think. Which I hope doesn’t mean Silvestre at the back…
November 12, 2009 at 09:04
top 2000
November 12, 2009 at 09:05
say what
November 12, 2009 at 09:05
TOP X?
November 12, 2009 at 09:06
Sabeel do you have a life?
November 12, 2009 at 09:08
repost
http://www.studs-up.com/2009/10/of-idle-hands-and-international-breaks/
good read, Geoffrey, thanks!
November 12, 2009 at 09:08
Defintely would love to see Eastmond…
we should see him 3-4 times to really pass any judgement…i hope he rockets to first team like Gibbs
November 12, 2009 at 09:09
we should really win against shitty. maybe the kids can do it.
November 12, 2009 at 09:09
Just read the article.
Surely the karma would be if Barca signed Afobe and Aneke seeing as we stole Merida and Cesc?!?
But fk it, let’s get this kid too!
November 12, 2009 at 09:10
Chipo….i do…why do u ask….
i can spend some of an half hour of my busy office schedule only to le-grove right
November 12, 2009 at 09:11
second that, Rhyle – Shitty may rape us like Spuds did if we don’t add some steel – problem is, we can’t really risk playing Gibbs there, which may leave us exposed in LB…
and the fullbacks (Traore and Hoyte) were the cause of collapsing in the 5:1 tonking IMO…
November 12, 2009 at 09:12
Sure this kid from barca is interesting stuff…but dont think barca would allow that now…after Fabregas result…not for a cheap price for sure…
Theo walcott was the only teenager where we spent like 12 million
November 12, 2009 at 09:28
top 20
November 12, 2009 at 09:31
Stick or twist?
Surprise!
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/-we-will-stick-to-our-policy-against-man-city
November 12, 2009 at 09:31
Morning all, I think the requisite karmic reaction is that all our first teamers say “Arsenal is the spiritual home of Messi and he aches to join us” so that the little Argy has to issue weekly reassurances to the Barca faithful that he is not going anywhere. Add that to Hill wood saying at every interview – “It is only a matter of when not if Messi joins us”.
That would teach those catalan whores(as Tomstoned would say)to stop their persistent coveting of our players.
November 12, 2009 at 09:33
Finest he says that but i reckon we will see:
Eboue, Sendy, Silvestre, Gibbs
and then probably Eduardo and Vela up front with the standard midfield of Ramsey, Wilshere etc.
I think we can do them with that team! It’ll be tough though..
November 12, 2009 at 09:34
Arsenal is in Messi’s DNA
November 12, 2009 at 09:34
Rushden & Diamonds is in Eboues DNA
November 12, 2009 at 09:36
while the fiscal benefits of picking up teenagers is clear I have to question if this is the best policy for the club.
We are picking up kids like Assulin with no connection or love for the club, paying them an absolute fortune, putting them in the shop window in the Carling Cup (primarily) and even, if they’re good enough, the PL and CL. No love for the club means no loyalty – Flamini walked out on us. You always get the feeling that Fabregas, despite his clear affection for the club, has one eye on the door.
The effect on the balance sheet is amazing but in terms of squad continuity, loyalty and sometimes (the marmites) quality…is it truly the right way to go?
November 12, 2009 at 09:37
The missing link is in Rooney’s DNA, Gambon.
November 12, 2009 at 09:46
good post Geoff hope jackie boy will be back for the shitty game
November 12, 2009 at 09:53
Morning bastardos!
Even if City field a strong team, given their curtrent form and the goals they are shipping, our kids would have a good chance against em… But the same(ish) side as last time out would do for me…
No problem
November 12, 2009 at 09:54
if liverpool were to be team out of top4…i would rather prefer the team that replaces liverpool to be everton or villa…
dont want City/shitty in top4,simply becos,they may become even more attractive with all there money for players of they would finish in CL spots..
Shitty dont have Match winners…other than robinho,who doesnt want to stay here…and with there money they r finding it tuf to buy match winners like ribery etc..becos including money,they dont offer them top level CL competition…
Dont want another chelsea do we…who r top from the season that abromovich completely took over
November 12, 2009 at 09:54
Hopefully RVP will play, but I rewally don’r expect any massive changes and I don’t doubt that most of the players will be squad players.
This is the way Wenger looks at it, if the squad beat Citeh this will be groundbreaking, if not and he sees some good individual performances, it will give him more options for the league, plus it will give squad players a game the equivalent to a Premier League game without it costing points.
We the fans of course want a win, but from managements point of view, it makes more sense to blood some youth in what is a challenging game. What if it means we see more of Merida, Ramsey, Wilshere and co. because they’ve proved they can handle high pressure games? There is only one way to find out, throw them in at the deep end.
When the draw was first announced, I wanted as many first team players in as possible, but now I’ve come around to seeing things from Wenger’s perspective, this is the best chance for the youth to break into the first team without it costing us points in the Premier League and to really show us who is ready and who is not instead of waiting another season. This is exactly the type of game you want youth players to show their skills in.
I do want RVP up front and captaining the team however
and leading the team from the front, and it’s undeniable that he would boost the chances of the youth getting another game.
November 12, 2009 at 09:55
Oh and this Isreali kid that Barca have and we apparantly want…
I havent seen any quotes from Michel Twatinni slated Barca for picking up kids from other countries football Federations?
Oh, but thats only Arsenal and Arsene who get slated for that innit… What a c*nt that twat is!
November 12, 2009 at 09:57
I say.. yaaay to international breaks! Portugal vs. Bosnia saturday..
and no C. Ronaldo! Can it get much better?
November 12, 2009 at 09:58
Rhyle;
Your point is interesting, but completely crap! Haha! Joking!
No, seriously, just look at merida, he has no affinity to the club and has agreed terms on a new deal, Coquelin and Sunu seem happy. In fact, I cant think of anyone that your point refers to???
Plus, the thing is, most of our kids are English now… You know? Like cashley and bentley!
Do you get my drift???
November 12, 2009 at 09:59
morning all! not sure who’ll play up front against shitty, maybe theo will be back? cant see eddie playing now bendy is out for a month or 2, watt wont get a sniff if he plays
November 12, 2009 at 10:03
morning all. Its a good time to be playing City as they seem to struggling to win. I think the best way to go abt it would be to add a few fringe players like Denilson & Walcott in there to give the kids a boost. I’d love to see Roarie Deacon in a cameo…that boy is explosive.
November 12, 2009 at 10:04
ArsenalDK…..yep we get to watch Dzeko again…i thought he was one of the bright spots against Spain.. his goal was clinical.
November 12, 2009 at 10:04
Gambon 9.34
November 12, 2009 at 10:05
We cant loose this one either way. Championed if we win – oh well it was only our kids if we lose.” great equation
November 12, 2009 at 10:07
gday all, any old boys around?
November 12, 2009 at 10:08
gday finest, how are you mate>? i hope rVP plays too
November 12, 2009 at 10:08
howevermuch we talk about messi coming to arsenal,it will not catch on as we havent won anything for 5 years.it was only when barca started playing amazing did the cesc to barca stories start.
only when we start winnig tropies will we be able plant our dna in other players.
with this team, i trully believe we can
November 12, 2009 at 10:08
On a side note, isn’t everyone overjoyed that Adebayor is finally (it didn’t take that long though!) showing how useless, lazy, arrogant, worthless and not even half as good as Bellamy he is?
£25m for that piece of shit! Ha! It makes me warm and fuzzy inside
November 12, 2009 at 10:09
Fabianski
Eboue – Bartley – Senderos – Silvestre
Wilshire – Eastmond – Denilson
Vela – Sunu – Theo
_______________________
This game is 3 days aftet the chav game, so it Wenger may not wanna play more 1st teamers in the Carling cup game…
Nasri moght be in the team though.
November 12, 2009 at 10:09
I dont want to see rvp play against shitty,he might get into a spat with the togo twat and get carded maybe a red or two yellows. while he is such great form at the moment we dont want to lose him
November 12, 2009 at 10:10
Good shout Finest.
RVP’s a good idea, and he would deffo carry the fight, but there’s just the concern around injuries.
Also he’s done really well controlling his anger issues lately…would this be too big of an ask of him..?? Could the red mist descend if City targetted him…??
November 12, 2009 at 10:10
You’re clearly a very bright young man Terry
November 12, 2009 at 10:11
Thats a decent team there ManG
November 12, 2009 at 10:12
chipo;
After the game at Wastelands, all the shitty fans were singing his after as they left.. I started chatting to a manc and was telling him, he’d soon be changin his tune and opinion on Ade… he looked at me like I was chatting shit (me? Chat shit??? Never!) I said to him, give it a few months and you’ll see… Didnt think it would be this quick though.
The ONLY games he will bother with, willbe against us and possible the Manc derby…
November 12, 2009 at 10:13
Afc – It was only a wind-up/giggle about Messi coming to THOF.
November 12, 2009 at 10:14
whoever doesnt play against chelea should play against shitty. i cant imagine wenger playing rosicky and nasri in the same team although it would be great.so either one of them should play in the carling cup.
November 12, 2009 at 10:16
Hey Sharkey! Thanks mate.
Terry;
I agree with you there. I just dont see RvP playing, well not starting anyways. He might come on, just for the penalty shoot out and score the winner!
RvP is the main man now, he is needed for our glorious and ultimately successful pursuit of the Premier and Champions League trophies!
November 12, 2009 at 10:16
sorry charyb1966 i just cant wait for us to start winning trophies again
November 12, 2009 at 10:17
Evening all
If Messi knew what was good for him he would request a move to THOF.
November 12, 2009 at 10:17
Third dividion???
November 12, 2009 at 10:20
Buenas noches Gnarley!
November 12, 2009 at 10:21
Mind you by the time Messi puts in his request to join a proper football club like The Arsenal, Jacky Wilshire will be @ the peak of his powers
November 12, 2009 at 10:22
gday gnarley, how are you mate?
you in sydney town soon or what?
November 12, 2009 at 10:23
Right back @ you MG.
November 12, 2009 at 10:23
Too right Gnarley, he would but the mere rumour mongering of it would wind up the smug crack whores of Barca(c. Tomstoned) no end.
No worries AFC – I’m with you on the need for us to win trophies now.
Mr B – I think we’re talking Blue Square Premier now.
November 12, 2009 at 10:24
why no nasri and rosicky in the same team? nasri will be part of the middle 3 and rosicky is more part of the forward 3
November 12, 2009 at 10:24
evo, in short no, but I see you are getting a new footy team out west. Not a bad effort by our 3rd string team to win 2-4
in India.
November 12, 2009 at 10:24
who needs messi ???? we have ramsey,vela,wilshere,nasri etc coming up
November 12, 2009 at 10:27
evo are you still up for the Islington Town Hall trip in May. Its getting more & more likely as each 3 points is earned
November 12, 2009 at 10:28
Merida, Jack, Ramsey are certain. More then likely Sendy and Silvestre at the back. Hope he doesn’t go Gilbert again but I can see that as well. Gibbs is senior squad but he gets a shout more then likely.
Last round we played some of our seniors back into shape so Walcott probably makes the grade as well looking for match fitness.
Its a toss up between Eastmond and Coquelin for the DM spot. And I hope for everyones sake Vela finally gets a chance to show his stuff.
November 12, 2009 at 10:29
……& also ManGoonian is doing his ride through the streets of manchester on a bus then too. That would be a nice one to join him on, if he doesn’t mind
November 12, 2009 at 10:29
i know arsenal tom. but wenger might want to be more solid defensively and may see diaby and denilson as a better option in the middle. i think nasri has quite a good defensive game and i hope wenger starts him there.also theo would have come back by then so i wonder who will play on the right
November 12, 2009 at 10:29
Well I can see what you guys are saying about RVP being targeted, but that would actually work in our favour giving me even more reason to want RVP to play this game.
Man City lose focus on the game and keep concentrating their negativity on RVP. Great. RVP can handle it, it gives the rest of the team more freedom, because RVP would be like a decoy for their focus.
If RVP was given the armband, he would lead the team and be focused due to the extra responsibility. Also, he would be mentally prepared because he knows to expect hostility from the blue Mancs. Wenger would give him an extra pep talk, not to retaliate etc.
Not only that RVP wants to continue playing in Premier League games so I don’t doubt his professionalism in this kind of game.
And it also puts Ade on the backfoot because he got a 3 match ban last time, and now he’s off the boil, he knows how careful he wouldneed to be with any one on ones with RVP or he could risk more of the same.
November 12, 2009 at 10:29
yes mate im up for the trip! glad we stuffed it to harbhajan and his cronies, fair bit of granstanding by him thinking he could fix us up 5-2, but it was the opposite by our C or D grade side! Tendulkar is the only bloke who is the guru!
November 12, 2009 at 10:30
Arsenal Tom;
You mean in the 1st team? For me, they are both 1st teamers. For the chav game, I’d go with;
Almoonia
Sagna – Vermilli – Gallas – Gibbs
Cesc – Song – Nasri
Rosicky – RvP – Arshavin
November 12, 2009 at 10:31
Since Gibbs is filling in for injured clichy, traore has a chance to impress…at left back
November 12, 2009 at 10:32
for shitty game
November 12, 2009 at 10:33
gnarley;
Yeah man! There’ll be plenty of room on my open top bus mate! But remember, its May in manchester…So bring your umbrella!
November 12, 2009 at 10:33
finest,
I had this crazy idea that playing in cups is all about winning them – what sort of benefit we got from Spuds thrashing us 5:1?
bleeding youngsters? yes, but only a carefully selected bunch, who are just slightly off being ready (as these will benefit), not the whole squad…
November 12, 2009 at 10:35
carling cup is a game for the younger gunners.why does rvp have to play.we can demolish them without rvp and also give the likes of vela and watt a chance to shine
November 12, 2009 at 10:35
MG
November 12, 2009 at 10:36
About Messi or Gourcuff, we are unlikely to develop players like that because Arsene concentrates more on the passing game than individual brilliance. Otherwise Im sure Fab4 could have been as good a dribleller as Messi.
November 12, 2009 at 10:37
and on the issue of playing RvP there – daft idea if you ask me: why risk him getting the shit kicked out of him?
we are to play Pool and Villa in December, and we play a game every 3-4 days – I’d rather keep him fresh and let RvP rough Adewhore up @ home (if the TT has the bottle to play)…
November 12, 2009 at 10:37
Alright you hairy ball sacks! What’s happening??
November 12, 2009 at 10:38
evo
watching Ravi Shastri doing the interviews (i rated him as a cricketer), he’s looking a bit like Freddie Mercury these daze
November 12, 2009 at 10:38
Finest – you’re prob right, RVP has worked wonders with his temperament hasn’t he.
Evo – Gnarley. All the best with planning your trips, it sounds almost Mecca like in its heartfeltness. (Not that I’m a muslim or trying to offend any!!)
One word of warning, get your tickets for any game you plan on seeing very very early if poss…the closer we get to a title games wise the more the tickets resemble South London virgins….very hard to find, even harder to get your hands on !!
November 12, 2009 at 10:39
Suga3;
Would you want to risk the likes of RvP, Gallas and Vermilli then? For the league Cup? Coz I know I wouldnt…
And, NO ONE is saying it should be a team of 11 yutes. Like the last round, it will be a mixture of kids and senior players and those who dont play 90 minutes vs the chavs…
November 12, 2009 at 10:39
Morning,
afc, that’s what you might think…but there were times when people actually cared for any trophy. Yes it’s a 2nd grade cup, but so what? Play your best team all the time, I used to get exited for Milk Cup finals at Wembley as I would for any other final. A cup is a cup, and the point is, in the last 5 years, Spurs won more cups than us. That’s just wrong.
November 12, 2009 at 10:39
hairy ball sacks????
How did you know Taig I hadn’t had a sack back & crack job
November 12, 2009 at 10:39
Salutations Grovers.
Without further ado, let us take a moment to hail the Lord Wenger. When in doubt, always ask yourself, “What would Arsene do?”
November 12, 2009 at 10:41
Siga3;
Ha! You’ve kinda answered that one!
November 12, 2009 at 10:41
TonyAUG;
Alrite fucknutz!
November 12, 2009 at 10:41
MG,
of course not (see my later post) – but let’s be realistic, shall we? Shitty’s first team away is nothing like Pool’s second string at home with the Carling Cup crowd behind them – do you seriously believe that Eastmond or Randall are a match for the likes of Barry or De Jong?
November 12, 2009 at 10:42
Fucking trouble you caused me yesterday Edmund !!
Death squad’s on its way….they just need your exact location…
November 12, 2009 at 10:43
Sharkey
I will take what you say on board. Speaking of Mecca, I heard today from a returned service man that the Arsenal fan Binladin is still potentially an Arsenal fan, i.e alive, though his kidneys are stuffed. I wonder if he would do a disguise to get to Islington Town Hall as well.
November 12, 2009 at 10:44
I know it might seem arrogant and probably a bit daft considering our lack of silver ware of late, but in the grand scheme of things, the Carling Cup is now a place for young players and reserves who dont play week in, week out.
I am happy for this to continue and I also believe that whatever team Wenger puts out, has a real chance of progressing. This hasnt always been the case, which shows me (anyway) the strength of our squad and the quality of our yutes…
November 12, 2009 at 10:45
One of Arsenal’s top celebrity fans, author Nick Hornby, revealed in an interview with the American edition of the club’s official website that the club’s disgruntled fans have been “spoiled” in recent times.
“I think the complaining is a measure of how spoiled we’ve become,” he said. “When I started going they hadn’t won anything for 17 years, and there was nothing between 1971 and 1979, or ‘79 and 1987.
“Most teams don’t win anything most years. Why do West Ham fans buy season tickets? Or Everton fans? Because they love their team and they like getting out of the house of a weekend to watch a game.
“We’ve had two finals and four or five semi-finals in those four years, and one of the finals was in the Champions League, and though losing those games was disappointing, it still meant that we had something to play for at the business end of the season.”
He added: “In the end it’s about whether you enjoy going or not, and anyone who hasn’t enjoyed watching Arsenal in the last few years, especially at home, can’t really like football much.”
Hornby is the author of best-selling football memoir Fever Pitch, about his love affair with Arsenal.
November 12, 2009 at 10:45
Sharkey,
the closer we get to a title games wise the more the tickets resemble South London virgins….very hard to find, even harder to get your hands on !!
hahah well fucking said mate. Pissing myself here.
November 12, 2009 at 10:46
Suga3;
Are our Carling Cup team better than Burnley?
November 12, 2009 at 10:47
I think if more of our players learned to drible like henry or bergkamp it would be easier to brek down teams esp thoe that park the bus and a lot of top teams like chelsea(crowd the mid semi vs barca) and italian teams do that.
November 12, 2009 at 10:47
Suga3;
I am sure you dont mean to come over soooo condescending do you mate?
November 12, 2009 at 10:48
MANGOON…. spot on mate… that’d be my first team to, with eddie as the first sub to come into the front 3 if needed.
afc, i think nasri probably offers as much as diaby defensively, obviously allot less in the air but he doesnt loose the ball as much or play ridiculous balls around our area like diaby does.
November 12, 2009 at 10:48
Sharkey. Bring it on. You find me. Im not even in the UK at the moment
November 12, 2009 at 10:49
here he goes again..
Yeah you may be right Sabeel, maybe Traore gets a look in.
November 12, 2009 at 10:49
MG,
I reckon AW’s sticking to his principles is a bit naive, given the fact that not all the yutes will make it at Arsenal – thought of, for example, Gilbert playing RB v Shitty rather than Eboue makes me cringe: we are in it to win it, not to take part…
November 12, 2009 at 10:51
Suga3;
And anyways, the Arsenal team to play Man Shitty will depend on what happens on nthe Sunday before.
What would you rather?
We beat City, but lose to the chavs or;
We beat the chavs, but get beat by the City chavs?
November 12, 2009 at 10:52
I liked Fever Pitch, Hornby is a good author also, enjoyed some of his other novels like About a boy and Slam. But the thing is, I feel he tries to sweep everyone under his own understanding of Arsenal and support. Nick mate, I understand what you are saying, but people are different, and had different experiences with our beloved club. And success bring expectations.
ManUre haven’t won shit before the 90’s and we were the 2nd most titled club in England, now they are 1st. If they don’t win the title for 5 years (just title, not even talking trophies) everyone of their fans will pop their bubble, and no one will be telling them that they have been spoiled.
Nick lived through the 1-0 to the Arsenal period, and you know as well as me, that pretty football is all good, but priority is getting your hands on that silverware.
Also I know Nick won’t read this, but just getting some stuff of my chest. Just because you described your life in a book (being brilliant as it is) does not give you the right to say that we don’t like football.
I for one did not enjoy watching Arsenal vs ManUre in CL at home last season. So I guess I don’t like football much…
November 12, 2009 at 10:53
mangoon… rather beat the chavs, then providing we win our game in hand we’re top of the league.
we could beat the northern chavs and then get done by some other bunch of cunts like villa or the other mancs and its all worthless.
November 12, 2009 at 10:53
I think the fact City will play a strong team and the fact it is away will all be in AW’s thinking mate… I thought Gilbert and Eastmond did really well. Eastmond particularly and he was up against some decnet (for Liverpool) players…
November 12, 2009 at 10:54
Shitty won’t play Barry or the big names, Sparky is just trying to have a stare down. What he doesn’t know is that Wenger is the most stubborn cunt around and will never back down from his policy.
Last round we played some big boys cause they needed match fitness, I think this time Wenger throws the young brigade at em full force and pulls sparky’s pants down at eastlands.
November 12, 2009 at 10:54
duke,
would you rather have the premier league or the carling cup.why should we risk our first team players getting injured when we have enough talent to beat shitty.
November 12, 2009 at 10:55
MG?
you mean to the Shitty game? I wish I could, but my leave account is showing zero days until March
and yes, I think they are better than Burnley skillwise, however, I have one reservation – physical strength and experience which may count for something…
Burnley are no mugs either though…
November 12, 2009 at 10:56
when is this match against shitty?
November 12, 2009 at 10:57
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_5689071,00.html
November 12, 2009 at 10:58
nothing opens here at work? can anyone please tell the date & time?
November 12, 2009 at 10:59
surely, I would rather have us beat Chelsea – still, I think this shows that strength in depth is illusional in certain areas: abundance of options upfront (given the impossible of everyone being fit) but less than impressive at the back – our replacement back four options are a tad substandard if you ask me…
mind you, I think Silvestre and Sendy had reasonably good game v Pool…
November 12, 2009 at 11:00
ikon…
its wednesday 2 dec 19:45
November 12, 2009 at 11:00
afc, well we obviously don’t have enough talent as we have not won the Carling Cup for fucking ages.
Also why do people think that by winning the Cup we sacrifice the League? That’s not the way it works, and pre-Wenger, we used to play our best team every game.
Risk getting injured? There is as much risk of that happening any other game or at training, should we not train and rest Cesc, Arsh, RvP for all games beside the ManUre, Chelski, Pool games?
Anyway my daily meeting is on, catch you guys after a few.
November 12, 2009 at 11:01
theo should be back after the internationals so him or eddie will get a game i reckon, vela to. 2 out of them 3 means we can accommodate a kid up front no problem.
ramsey, denilson, eastmond/coq should be fine as well
November 12, 2009 at 11:02
Gnarley and Evo do you reckon you could start a petition and send to MrsAAA and get all the Grovers to sign it so I can come with you in May please!!
November 12, 2009 at 11:02
Duke;
Thats a fair point and each to their own. But I think along similar lines to hornby I giess ( my latest novel is available in paper back this week!) I think there is a sense of expectation that we should win shit, when that probably wasnt there a ferw years back. We had success under Graham, before him there waS fuck all for a long time. Then Wenger came along and won shit on a pretty regular basis. That has dried up hasnt it, but there have been extenuating circumstances for that and there have been a few new boys on the block, splashing cash like no ones business, added to our move etc etc etc…
Bottom line;
We might have to woit a few years to win something, so, what are you gonna do?
November 12, 2009 at 11:02
LAzer,
Shitty will play their strongest team, given their fixture list, as compared to ours:
http://www.mcfc.co.uk/Fixtures?showall=1
November 12, 2009 at 11:04
Suga3;
“reasonably good games” High praise indeed for you! Haha!
I think the squad has a lot of depth, time will tell though won’t it…
November 12, 2009 at 11:04
http://www.arsenal.com/fixtures/fixtures-reports
sorry
November 12, 2009 at 11:05
Hi all. Duke, Hornby isnt saying you dont like football, he’s saying that anyone who hasn’t enjoyed watching Arsenal in recent years can’t like football. That has to be true, surely. I am assuming you, like me, have mostly enjoyed the football (mostly) in recent years but, like me, have been frustrated to see our type of football result in no recent silverware. I have to agree with him. We have become spoilt. We are incredibly lucky really. Incredibly lucky. Dont get me wrong I still vent my spleen every week and hate AW for his breaking up that team too early and with his other odd decisions (Arshavin – semi final) and general stubborness (and the way he cannot string a sentence together without the words Overall, Spirit, I Believe etc).
November 12, 2009 at 11:05
Arsenal Tom;
I forgot all about ramsey!
November 12, 2009 at 11:06
Thanks Arsenal Tom.
Quite a few days to go.
November 12, 2009 at 11:07
MG,
Silvestre played very good game IMO, I was quite surprised to see him run, tackle and anticipate well – that might have something to do with the extra responsibility of being the ‘father figure’ in this team…
November 12, 2009 at 11:08
Too right ManG.
You can leave yer wife, change your job, fuck – some scumbags even abandon their kids…..but Arsenal really is for life !!
November 12, 2009 at 11:14
finest,
I had this crazy idea that playing in cups is all about winning them – what sort of benefit we got from Spuds thrashing us 5:1?
—————–
It is, and against Tottenham I think we should have put out a stronger team but I won’t back down with the view that this is the best chance we have of seeing if we have players ready for the first team or not, to me the title is more important.
As Wenger has mentioned, we can still beat Cite.
“For me a full side means a team who has a chance to win any game.”
We also have to show the youth confidence in their ability, therefore we need to balance things out. To me the league is far more important than the Carling Cup, so if it means we can win the game and at the same time develop our players as well as gain more players for the first team by doing this, we should.
Don’t get me wrong, I would lo9ve to win the Carling cup, but at the same time not at the expense of the league in which we have a genuine chance.
I have an interesting stat which may be of interest relating to World Cup football.
Brazil – Won: 13, Drawn: 1, Lost: 1, Goals for: 32, Goals against:8
Argentina – Won: 9, Drawn: 3, Lost: 3, Goals for:24, Goals against: 9
Spain – Won: 9, Drawn:4, Lost: 2, Goals for: 33, Goals against: 16
Germany – Won: 9, Drawn: 5, Lost: 1, Goals for: 35, Goals against: 13
Italy – Won: 8, Drawn: 5, Lost: 2, Goals for: 22, Goals against: 12
The five most recent WC champions have averaged a total of 8.4 goals in their group phase matches.
(Excluding Italy in 2006).
We have exceeded the average of goals scored by World Cup winning teams over the entire season. That is a very significant stat. To me this is a very strong indication of our potential to win the Premier League
and we must do everything to protect the team. Not only that, but Chelsea lose four key players during the ANC and by John Terry’s own admission, it is already on their minds because they believe they have to build a cushion big enough to survive that period.
November 12, 2009 at 11:15
Am not buying it Suga. But if you want to make the fixture argument check who they play after the CC game three days later.
November 12, 2009 at 11:16
i think the whole expectation also comes from the club… for the past 3-4 years wenger has openly said our 2 top targets are the league and CL, not winning those means the club hasnt done what they set out to do, they also havent compensated for that by winning the FA cup or league cup.
November 12, 2009 at 11:16
LAzer;
Dont be a tease! Who is it???
November 12, 2009 at 11:18
forgot ramsey? you should be ashamed
November 12, 2009 at 11:20
chavs at home for city!!
November 12, 2009 at 11:20
The Ngog diving thing has launched the cheating topic back into the news but I think it is largely because Ngog is, how shall i put it, not an Englishman? Bent dived to win a penalty over the weekend but not too many column inches have been written about that. John Cross has written a holier-than-thou piece suggesting that the cheats must be kicked out and says it’s what we all want. He of course gets Eduardo’s name in there. But is it really what Cross and his ilk want? Do they really want to see Rooney, Gerrard, Terry and Cole kicked out for cheating? Of course he doesn’t. Every week, in every match someone cheats. Some dive, others foul needlessly in the penalty area and get away with it etc. etc. Sure, Ngog’s was a scandalous piece of cheating but who can forget Rooney’s antics against us on several occasions? I have no answers, but I doubt that kicking the cheats out will be acceptable to Fabio Capello as he has too many of them in his squad.
November 12, 2009 at 11:20
Defintely would love to see jakc…
November 12, 2009 at 11:21
yep no problem, petition on its way!
November 12, 2009 at 11:22
In fact if you want to make the fixture argument it really is the reverse of what you say. That is a pretty tough stretch for them, much tougher then normal really.
Liverfool, Hull (ok that one should be easy), Us in CC and then Chavs.
Sparky will mix it up, he won’t play the full first team, it would be stupid on his part too in between their recent problems in the league and needing to rest players.
November 12, 2009 at 11:22
The Carling Cup is not an important trophy to win. We have bigger fish to fry. Let AW continue to blood in the youngsters and it will soon pay dividends for the first team.
November 12, 2009 at 11:23
It’s D-day for ole 65% proof nose today, let’s hope the FA hand out a substantial touchline ban for his persistent referee baiting.
November 12, 2009 at 11:24
Many pundits wrote us of in favour of Man City. Are Arsenal perceived as a soft target? It now seems that Liverpool may be in more trouble of being knocked out of the top 4 than us.
November 12, 2009 at 11:25
Aloha Grovers, I would have a nice mix, just like we did against L’pool. I dont believe shitty will put out their strongest team anyway. So a mix of youth and experience should see us through this game.
November 12, 2009 at 11:25
…and I wore my lacey pinks just for you today MG.
but ok stopped the tease.
November 12, 2009 at 11:25
LAzer,
take into the account the moneybag owner who wants to win the lot…
league is nowhere near realistic for them and as far as I am concerned, Sparky can put the Chav game in ‘lost’ side of the balance sheet…
November 12, 2009 at 11:26
Edmond,
after the ‘all hail Lord Wenger’ comment, I don’t think there is any point in trying to convince you that AW makes mistakes, is there?
November 12, 2009 at 11:28
Fergie has been getting away with it for years. Intimidating the referees and the like. This season he’s really feeling the heat and thats why hes even more chirpy.
November 12, 2009 at 11:28
and oh, If we were to win PL & CC, would you sniff at the other half of the Double?
November 12, 2009 at 11:29
Why is why UEFA need to make their rules and prosecution procedures more transaparent Lou because it seems like they pick and choose cases to punish. Not only that, they hypocritically use video evidence which they are opposed to to pass judgement on the matter. I wonder if they are really equipped to deal with the weekly trials that would need to take place in order to universally apply this law, which comes from a failure to use available technology to ensure correct decisions are made during the match.
November 12, 2009 at 11:30
Suga3. Contrary to popular belief, I do think AW makes mistakes. The “all hail…” was for the AKBs out there. I would not want them to feel left out in any way.
November 12, 2009 at 11:32
Suga3
I forgot to mention that when Wenger makes mistakes, he does so intentionally. He wants to test our faith.
November 12, 2009 at 11:33
Now that I have seen it, Shitty’s website is very representative of the club. It’s simply shitty.
What did they pay Togo’s T’s third cousins’ bastard nephew to make it or something.
November 12, 2009 at 11:34
ED
I don’t mind bleeding youths in the CC, but last season we did not have any realistic chance of winning anything but the domestic cups and it has been fucked up big time…
November 12, 2009 at 11:34
All hail Lord Wenger. PTL \o/.
November 12, 2009 at 11:35
ED,
that ‘test our faith’ thing is a joke, isn’t it?
November 12, 2009 at 11:36
Lou;
Its no surprise to me that the dives and cheating by English players are completely overlooked and air brushed out of history, while any infringement by foreign players are blown out of all proportion.
It is the superiority complex that still pervades in this little inconsequential country! The little Englander mentality that sniffs at anything foriegn, that laughs at french people eating snails and germans being the 1st to grab the sunloungers!
Basically the British are hard but fair, honest as the day is long and never cheat… its all the dirty foreigners fault and i believe that we have been victimised by the media because we dont have the likes of Rooney, Gerrard and Terry in our team…
November 12, 2009 at 11:36
finestcuts. I agree. I think the answer must lie in better refereeing and possibly some level of video evidence. John Terry is a total cheat, but when it comes to deceiving the referee he is a master. It was only from one camera angle that I could clearly see the hefty tug on Valencia’s shirt on Sunday so what chance did the ref have? His disguised attempts to break Cesc’s leg before Eboue mullered him the season before last had a certain poetic ring of justice to it too. The Chelsea v Man U game at the weekend showed that when games and titles are close it could soon be an arch piece of cheating, missed by the ref, that wins it for you.
November 12, 2009 at 11:37
MG. Never a truer word.
November 12, 2009 at 11:37
I hate those bleedin youths! Always hangin round the shops, askin for booze…
November 12, 2009 at 11:38
Suga 3
Why Wenger did not play Arshavin from the start against Chelsea in the FA Cup semis, I will never know. I dont think he was injured because he came on very late. Anyway, last season we could have won the FA Cup.
November 12, 2009 at 11:40
Suga 3
I see that your faith in Arsene has been shaken.
November 12, 2009 at 11:40
Edmond – Everyone forgets that Liverpool has been knocked out of the top 4 in recent years, winning the CL glossed over that though.
November 12, 2009 at 11:42
ED,
let’s say, I would disagree with some of his decisions and reasoning behind them…
November 12, 2009 at 11:43
MG – you are really gonna set Nick on another one now
November 12, 2009 at 11:47
insidealbania – The CL is the holy grail for us. We can win it. In cup competitions, you need a bit of luck, thats what Liverpool had. Winning the league, on the other hand, is a different story. I rate winning the league to be more difficult than winning the CL.
November 12, 2009 at 11:47
AAA
If we get enough we can charter a jet
November 12, 2009 at 11:49
Inside; Yeah, Haha!
Suga3;
I think we have all questioned some decisoions by Wenger mate. Even the most ardent Wengerite.
But I would never question that he has the best interests of the club at heart, otherwise that would be really effin weird, wouldnt it? I mean, whats he been doin there all this time if he didnt give a shit!
November 12, 2009 at 11:51
Just watchin the bolron game from 2 seasons ago. Flamini is shit! Soooo glad we got rid! And Senderos playing well!
That was a great game, my fave from that season I think…
November 12, 2009 at 11:51
Suga 3
The pressure on Wenger in recent years has been intense. His problem is that he believes too much in the squad of players that we have currently. Maybe some of them don’t justify such confidence placed in him.
November 12, 2009 at 11:53
* not “him” its “them” (last word)
disbelieving in AW would amount to sacrilege. I must perform 10 “hail Wengers” immediately in order to atone for my indiscretion.
November 12, 2009 at 11:54
Edmond;
The League is the hardest to win, by some distance too mate…
It would be amazing for Arsenal to win the CL though, as its never been done before, of course. We have a good chance in everything this season…
November 12, 2009 at 11:54
Interesting 39 seconds read:
http://www.arsenalnewsreview.co.uk/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=1438&cntnt01origid=30&cntnt01returnid=42
November 12, 2009 at 11:55
what is annoying, the faith in some players doesn’t seem to be wholly justified…
if you cotton wool youngsters and install such OTT self belief, you get the results like we did last season – pampered, spoilt kids who think it’s enough to show up…
I think we may need someone who is able to give underperforming ones good bollocking (Keown)…
seems to work well in Bouldy’s case…
November 12, 2009 at 11:57
Just reading throught he posts. What a great Idea to have an alternative parade through the streets of manchester next time we win the league. we’d prabably need to arm ourselves against those heroin riddled scumbags though.
November 12, 2009 at 11:59
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_5690722,00.html?
November 12, 2009 at 11:59
Suga3;
That isnt fact, that is your opinion mate. Theres a difference.
There were many shocking performances last season, by EVERY player, not just these molly coddled kids you refer to.
Why that was? I dont know, we may never…
But it seems to have been eradicated so far this term.
November 12, 2009 at 12:01
goonermichael;
Hahaha! Yeah, me and George were discussin it the other night. Seemed like a good idea to us! You fancy it then? We can all stay in my extra large guest cardboard box!
November 12, 2009 at 12:02
That would be cool Goonermichael, but to really wind up the manscum you’dideally you’d want a parade through the mank supporters strongholds…..i.e. Ewell, Cheam, Edgeware, Brighton, Truro, Ipswich, outer Mongolia, Kowloon and Sarawak etc…
November 12, 2009 at 12:02
MG. If Arsenal win the CL, it will go down as one of the greatest days in our long and proud history. It will be nice to face Real Madrid at the Bernabeu in the final and put them to the sword. The only thing on that level waould be to face the Mancs and defeat them in the final.
November 12, 2009 at 12:03
Morning all whats the topic???
November 12, 2009 at 12:03
O.K Afternoon all
November 12, 2009 at 12:03
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Arsenal/Arsenal-Sign-Leo-Messi-In-Part-Exchange-Deal-For-Emmanuel-Eboue-And-Abou-Diaby
November 12, 2009 at 12:04
Chipo
November 12, 2009 at 12:05
The secure unit you stay in, let you go on the computer today i see Nick!
November 12, 2009 at 12:05
ManGOonian, your 10.30 team is undoubtedly our strongest XI
Well played sir!
November 12, 2009 at 12:06
Nick;
Well, we were discussing the Carling Cup team to play the new northern chavs… Now we is chattin bout havin a parade in an open top bus through Old Trafford when we win the league!
November 12, 2009 at 12:07
yes took all me fags in return though…
November 12, 2009 at 12:07
Chipo;
Yeah, thats what I thought too mate. Cheers!
November 12, 2009 at 12:08
Good times nothing like a riot to celebrate a title
there would be blood count me in 
November 12, 2009 at 12:08
What a complete and utter scumbag that twat Dioff is…
November 12, 2009 at 12:10
Yeah, Traore said he’s in, he’s bringin his knuckle dusters too!
November 12, 2009 at 12:11
horrible fucker aint he just seems to be there, whats he ever done on the pitch??? that was good obviously his done loads of diabolical things
November 12, 2009 at 12:12
What song would you like to hear when we lift the league title in May? Any other interesting suggestions other than Queen’s “We are the Champions”
November 12, 2009 at 12:14
Anything by Boyz2Men
November 12, 2009 at 12:15
Oh! Wait a moment. I have one. This is gonna be ideal.
This is how it goes, “There’s only One Arsene Wenger, One Arsene Wenger…” to the tune of Guantanamera. Sounds familiar? Now only if I can get some famous crooner to record it.
November 12, 2009 at 12:15
how about ace of spades “win some, lose some to me there all the same”….as finishing 4th but playing well
November 12, 2009 at 12:15
chipo those fake links aren’t so good since you see them without clicking.
Nick
I did a circuit class this morning I’m fucked
November 12, 2009 at 12:17
Good times MG, thats coz there was a few tidy bids in there and you got all alhpa male and pushed yourself…am i right
November 12, 2009 at 12:19
*birds
November 12, 2009 at 12:21
LOL nick… or fat boy slim “youve come a long way baby” when we finish 2nd
November 12, 2009 at 12:21
if you have the kids who are that complacent, how complacent are the ’stars’?
it’s contagious and spreads throughout the squad…
November 12, 2009 at 12:22
Atom
November 12, 2009 at 12:24
I am steroided up mate!
How about The Who;s; The Kids are Alright?
November 12, 2009 at 12:24
BNSB 39 secs !!
Very funny
November 12, 2009 at 12:24
Ok guys. Its been nice chatting. Parting is such sweet sorrow. But I have an afternoon shag to attend to. Your bird asks you where’s her vibrator. You say in the wise words of Wenger: “I did’nt see it.”
November 12, 2009 at 12:25
or nirvana teen spirit “here we are now entertain us”
November 12, 2009 at 12:26
edmond you been hanging around with tomstoned?
November 12, 2009 at 12:27
Atom you know thats the first thing that came to mind for me as well
November 12, 2009 at 12:29
Im back guys. I beat my personal best ie. 1 min 30 sec. Ok seriously Im going now. My bird is wetter than a beach umbrella in a monsoon.
November 12, 2009 at 12:29
Ha, ha, Edmond, look behind you!
November 12, 2009 at 12:29
Mango roid rage…explains a lot about you now mate,the bicep is bigger then the brain
November 12, 2009 at 12:31
great minds nick mate… i had to read it a few time to make sure it wasn’t just my eyes playing up!!
November 12, 2009 at 12:32
Nick. I’m going with my wife but there was one cute chinese girl
November 12, 2009 at 12:32
Nick;
Did you spill my bird? You been staring at my pint???
November 12, 2009 at 12:32
GM
theres always one
November 12, 2009 at 12:34
thank god.
November 12, 2009 at 12:35
Mango
November 12, 2009 at 12:38
Afternoon all. I’v been reading a lot abt Yaya Toure being unhappy at Barca and now his agent is making noises that Yaya will move to a bigger club than City.
As usual Arsenal are rumoured to be after him, i’m surprised to see ManU linked with him and tbh they dnt need him with Fletcher and Hargreaves on their books.
Wenger is a fan of Yaya, that much is obvious as we’v always been after him. However the big question is will Wenger now go after him again, when Song has made the DM position his own and the fact that we have Eastmond’s Coq on the verge of becoming his deputy. Denilson will deputise for Song while he is away for ACN. However Yaya is a world class DM imo and i dnt think he will cost more than £15m, because Barca prefer Keita to him and they have Busquests(sp?) who is a DM and a youth product so really Yaya is now surplus to requirements imo. He’s a huge beast and won’t take any prisoners! Any view grovers?
November 12, 2009 at 12:39
It would be good to get another kid outta Barca, but can it be Bojan instead, please? (AW has already mentioned this, which is just a fabulous wind-up!)
I don’t think Cesc is eyeing the door – he’ll stay as long as AW stays. Cesc evidently feels a tremendous debt to Wenger viz. his reaction on scoring first goal in Milan.
Re: CL song, The Wonder of You??? (I would say Too Much for the Human Heart, by Herman Hitson, but although the title is great, the lyrics are quite sad.)
November 12, 2009 at 12:40
Don’t need Yaya because the’ve got that fantastic player called Fletcher how lucky they are KM.
November 12, 2009 at 12:42
RE. Carling cup game v City. I think Hughes will play his 1st team because he needs silverware desperately to keep his job. Off topic….have u guys heard that Robinho is off to Barca in the January window? if that happens, its gonna hurt their top4 chances bigtime.
November 12, 2009 at 12:44
GM…..not sure if ur being funny/serious
But i can definately say that Yaya won’t leave Barca to fight it out with Hargreaves & Fletcher for the DM spot…he might as well stay at Barca ……
November 12, 2009 at 12:47
KM…you sure about that comparison of Yaya to Fletcher and Hargreaves.
Yaya’s in a completely different class to those two. Him being frozen out at Barca is the oddest thing ever. Wot next sidelining Messi….??
I think there must be issues around salary at play here, and perhaps Pep is trying to show Yaya who’s boss.
November 12, 2009 at 12:48
Fight it out with Hargreaves and Fletcher KM?! Yaya would walk straight into Utd’s team and play every game, and make a big difference for them! I’d love him to come to us, but it’d very very unlikely imo, firstly because us shipping off his brother won’t have done our chances any good, and secondly because I don’t see us spending that sort of money on a position that really isn’t a problem.
November 12, 2009 at 12:51
I was joking KM personally I don’t rate fletcher and I wouldn’t have him any where near our team. Hargreaves is getting better with every week that he’s out. I read recently that he’s the mancs most improved player.
November 12, 2009 at 12:51
i would say YES to yaya at arsenal.
we can play him and song in the big games. he’s got technique and can play in an advanced position imo while song satays in front of the defendres.
or we can play him in front of the defence with nasri and cesc beside him.
what a world class midfield we can have with little touré outhere
November 12, 2009 at 12:53
SharkeySure…i’m not saying that Yaya is worse than Fletcher/Hargreaves etc. What i’m saying is that ManU dnt really need another DM because Anderson/Carrick also play in the DM role sometime. A…..I rate Hargreaves and i think he is world class…..he was DM for Bayern when they were a force in Europe.
November 12, 2009 at 12:55
Although i would love Yaya to be at Arsenal, imo the improvement of Song and the kids knocking on the 1st team squad gate (Eastmond….Coq) might make Wenger think twice abt buying Yaya now.
November 12, 2009 at 12:58
KM – I’m saying Yaya is miles better than those two, and beyond that A has already said what I feel.
I’d have Yaya at Arsenal in a heartbeat even though I’m Song’s biggest fan !!
I’m not too sure how it would pan out, but players that good just aren’t available too often.
Only downside is the ANC.
November 12, 2009 at 12:58
The advantage of buying Yaya would be that Song could be played in CB position if need be and we would have a genuine world class player in the DM position…..someone with experience of winning the top honours….he’s been there and done everything and he’s only 26!
November 12, 2009 at 12:59
there are reports that neuer could be sold,i think he would be ideal for us.
imo yaya wont come here,not because we sold his brother but because here he has to compete with ever improving song
November 12, 2009 at 13:02
Lets agree to disagaree then KM..its Yaya all the way for me.
Look at his perfs in last seasons CL (even out of position at CB vs DogBra)
November 12, 2009 at 13:03
Just read this on BBC’s 606 debate….
Apparently Liverpool fans are hoping that Rafa puts a cheeky bid for Thierry henry in jan…. hahaha…. Looserpool’s optimism is hilarious!!!!!!
November 12, 2009 at 13:04
KM would you have Hargreaves or Fletcher for us??
November 12, 2009 at 13:05
SS…..i respect your opinion as always…but i remember Hargreaves keeping Zidane in his pocket in a match a long time ago……and after the match Zidane praised him….google it if u want.
November 12, 2009 at 13:06
Km – not either or…I mean either one.
I wouldn’t have either of them. Both fairly Ok at what they do…but both quite limited imo
November 12, 2009 at 13:06
i would take both over song anyday even christmas day
November 12, 2009 at 13:07
Yeah KM, Hargreaves WAS awesome, but there’s no saying that he’ll ever reach those levels again, and even if he does he isn’t going to be playing every game. Carrick, Fletcher, and Anderson aren’t DMs, though Utd don’t really play with DMs.
November 12, 2009 at 13:07
i would have Hargreaves mate……he’s intelligent…has amazing stamina and takes gr8 free kicks – better than RvP
i remember he used to take free kicks for Bayern and scored a peach against us 2seasons back. he’s also versatile….can play DM/RM/RB.
November 12, 2009 at 13:08
A what is fletchers actual position
November 12, 2009 at 13:09
KM good point..but our DM needs to keep our offensive momnetun going as well,and thas where Sing is excelling at the moment.
He gets the ball into our forward players so quickly, with his good range of passing.
Fletch and Harg may defend as well as Song (or better??) but our DM sees so much of the ball that I think we need a fair bit more than just defensive qualities.
November 12, 2009 at 13:09
Sharkey if Hargreaves ever gets back to his best and gets over his injury problems then I’d take him straight away, however those are both MASSIVE ifs!!
Fletcher would be attrocious for us though, he couldn’t play Song’s role, and imagine how much he’d destroy our nice football in the Diaby role. The amount of stick Diaby gets, Fletcher would be twice as bad as him!
November 12, 2009 at 13:11
how many goals has fletcher scored for utd..especially against us his got more to his game then just defending i honestly believe him missing the barca game was why utd lost…but i like hard players
November 12, 2009 at 13:11
nick- flecher is there to push the opposition around. foul other players, run everywhere on the pitch and close-down every position.
November 12, 2009 at 13:11
Hargreaves is fucked. World class is a bit strong even when he was in his prime. He played a couple of decent games for England. Agree about the free kick. broke my heart sob
November 12, 2009 at 13:12
Really A..??
I’m surprised…is his passing (excl. crabbing) and ball retention up to scratch then….??
November 12, 2009 at 13:12
Fletchers not really hard just dirty. He’s trying to be the new Keane for the mancs.
November 12, 2009 at 13:14
Nick he’s an old school centre mid, tenacious and box to box, but not amazing either defensive or offensively. He couldn’t play a primarily attacking, nor defensive role, he’d be worst defensively than Song is, runs around like a headless chicken, but worst going forward than all our attacking mids
November 12, 2009 at 13:15
Yeah Sharkey imo it is, at his best he’s absolutely top class, but his best was a fair while ago, and I doubt he’ll ever reach it again
November 12, 2009 at 13:15
Gooby sounds like the type of player we are missing then…we have enough flair players to cover the loss of the great pass master that is song
November 12, 2009 at 13:15
You’re spot on there A
Fergie really knows which games to pick Fletcher for…he knows his limitations.
November 12, 2009 at 13:16
A….how old is Hargreaves? Eduardo and Rosicky have had major injuries and they’r slowly coming back to their levels. I know Hargreaves is a ManU player but sometimes we need to step back and admit the talent of other players. Nick…..I think Song is gr8 too. Hargreaves has gr8 technique as well…. watch his penalties on youtube.
November 12, 2009 at 13:16
he’s scored 2 this season nick. He scored 2 against us in the fa cup when we were absolute fucking filth
November 12, 2009 at 13:18
nick-we don’t need flecher, i’ve never said this, not in our curent systeme i mean.
song is a great passer, he has got vision, and gr8 first touch. he can also dribble when pressed by the opposition.
i’ll take song over flecher anyday
November 12, 2009 at 13:22
fletcher sounds like flamini with a bit more bite so i will take him over song in fact anybody for that matter with in reason
November 12, 2009 at 13:23
GM whats your take on song?
November 12, 2009 at 13:23
KM I said he’s awesome, but his game is one that was built on tenacity and athleticism, which will make it harder for him to get to his previous level, IF he gets over his injuries.
Fletcher in our system would have to play instead of Diaby, or Nasri, not something that would make any sense at all. He couldn’t do Song’s job
November 12, 2009 at 13:26
I think he’s getting better all the time Nick. I wouldn’t call him world class and he probably never will be. I think he fits the team.
November 12, 2009 at 13:27
English weather here right now, 16C and raining…
I read a City blog a few days ago they all think CC is their only hope and will be playing their best team, I think out of the 1st teamers Vermi RvP and Al should play. I somehow think the kids will play well against them since the pressure will be on them and we’ll be playing our natural football.
November 12, 2009 at 13:28
vela’s agreed a new contract apparently
November 12, 2009 at 13:28
Nick, I’d take playing with 10 men over Song. I was with a Manc today and he thinks he adds nothing to our team but slowness. He can’t understand why people on this blog rate him.
November 12, 2009 at 13:30
Gm i think the team have adapted to carry him BUT he has done better this year.
I think his lack of pace and thought is what will make him not good enough for the pl in the end but as you say his doing a job.for now
November 12, 2009 at 13:30
Mayank I very much doubt any of them will play, certainly Almunia won’t!
I reckon we could see see the front six being denilson, ramsey, merida, wilshere, vela, theo. Fabianski in goal, senderos, silvestre, and traore, and then maybe Eboue right back?
November 12, 2009 at 13:31
my brother and cousins are ManU fans…..(puke) and we argue like hell over our teams and according to most ManU fans last year Fletcher was their most improved player…a bit like Song. Fletcher was initially meant to be a CM…box to box attacker but he didnt match up so therefore he’s had to change to a hustler and since Hargreaves’ injury has had to become the DM. Ferguson loves his never say die attitude…..hmmm
November 12, 2009 at 13:32
Agree with you A.
since fletcher is a pitty in the offensive department comparing him to nasri, rosicky or diaby he won’t do the job.
ANd by the way, the fench medical staff declared diaby fit to play ireland, although he is still on a personal training session.
AW and domenech are far from becoming friends. so diaby stays with the french squad
November 12, 2009 at 13:32
Geoff i would agree with that, he is the best we have not the best we can get
November 12, 2009 at 13:32
Geoff. He’s not that bad.
November 12, 2009 at 13:33
Geoff other clubs fans’ opinions vary massively on all our players. I had a manc saying he was absolutely shocked at how good song is and thinks he’s world class now, would take him in a second. Also got another who reckons Denilson is amazing and would swap him with anderson.
Opposition fans opinions are largely based on much more limited knowledge than fans of the club though, so always have to be taken with a pinch of salt
November 12, 2009 at 13:34
Geoff who would you go for out of song and the scotts git fletcher??
November 12, 2009 at 13:35
A
Mannone’s a bit of a worry, your teams good but I’d like Coquelin or Eastmond in there somewhere. Teams still think that physical play puts us off and i’m sure that’s what City will go for, I’m not sure how the kids will take it.
November 12, 2009 at 13:36
fletcher would play the diaby role in our side.. song would have to babysit him anyway
November 12, 2009 at 13:37
Nick…..flamini was better imo…he wasnt as dirty as Fletcher, who seems to get away with anti-football tactics.
November 12, 2009 at 13:39
i think we miss the dirty player like fletcher,i know rvp cesc and nasri have a go but even the greats we have had needs the dirty side to the game to demand the right to play our game only shit teams with crap managers bend over and take it
November 12, 2009 at 13:39
Weve gotta sign Yaya havent we? Dont care if its £8m or £20m, him and a GK and we are unbeatable!
November 12, 2009 at 13:40
I agree that fans differ on players all the time. Imo Anderson is shite…his development has stalled since his move from Brasil…he’s now become a Fletcher clone…chase/close down/hassle….all that crap. Denilson on the other i can sense he will become world class in 1/2 years time. he has immense talent.
November 12, 2009 at 13:40
gambon not sure about yaya.. he’d be jetting off to the ACN every now and then!
November 12, 2009 at 13:41
dont really want yaya now another african for one thing and he kept knocking us back so let him go and play for someone else imo
November 12, 2009 at 13:41
rather have flamini back than fletcher
November 12, 2009 at 13:42
Nick…i agree we need a dirty player, someone who does the ugly stuff – i.e Flamini
but if the whole side gets stuck in with defensive duties/getting the ball off the other team, then i think we’r ok.
November 12, 2009 at 13:43
Gambon
i think now that its obvious that Yaya wants to go, it’l be interesting to see what Wenger does.
November 12, 2009 at 13:45
I think we need to put in a cheeky bid for cana.. what a player!
father of flamini and fletcher!
November 12, 2009 at 13:45
choy i despise flemony but think if it was put to me know i would have him back.
Keep song as back for cb/dm up till the kids step up.
Milan need a few quid we could maybe loan him for the rest of the season or buy him for a few mill that sounds stupid as we lost him over a few mill
November 12, 2009 at 13:46
and to think that money went to silvestre instead
November 12, 2009 at 13:47
Anyone read abt Nani slating Fergie? he’s another one who’s development has stalled since his move frm Portugal. He was touted as a major talent in Portugal but he’s been hit and miss since his move to ManU. I think he’s going to get moved on.
November 12, 2009 at 13:49
Choy/others
I haven’t actually seen Cana in a 90minutes match for sunderland yet. But is he as good as Flamini/Song/Yaya?
November 12, 2009 at 13:50
is silvestres contract up this summer??
i have a feeling upson will becoming back, swpped for senderos
November 12, 2009 at 13:51
to be fair when i heard we had signed him on a free I thought well it makes sense…experienced player for the kids to learn from…and was right…..remember in x game fishface done that…make sure you do it right like this
November 12, 2009 at 13:53
incesc senderos can talk to other clubs in jan and leaves in the summer for free so doubt we could tell where to go mate, another player we spent good money on to get fuck all back shrewed basterds we are
November 12, 2009 at 13:54
Do u guys agree with this? :
1. United are now the EPL’s third best team.
2. The current squad isn’t going to get much better: Berbatov won’t improve, Nani isn’t going to become a footballer (as in someone who plays a team sport), Fletcher won’t learn to pass, Anderson won’t learn to shoot, Valencia isn’t going to become less one-dimensional, etc.
3. Sorting out this slide into mediocrity isn’t a job for Ferguson.
4. United therefore need to be very careful this slump doesn’t send them Liverpool’s way.
November 12, 2009 at 13:55
Nick…i think Upson might be too old for Wenger’s liking…
November 12, 2009 at 13:58
upson will not play for us, he is still good but does like an injury.
playing for us his bound to get a few he will go totenham
November 12, 2009 at 14:00
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_5690722,00.html
November 12, 2009 at 14:02
Nick
i think for now the backups are Senderos and DJ when back from injury. Song might slot in as CB when Gallas retires. I dnt rate Sendy/DJ…i think they are 4th choice CB’s.
November 12, 2009 at 14:02
http://youngguns.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/carlos-vela-agrees-terms-on-new-arsenal-contract/
November 12, 2009 at 14:04
Former Arsenal midfielder Stuart Robson claims Arsene Wenger has finally rediscovered the magic formula that proved so invincible during the Bergkamp and Henry era of the club.
Arsenal have been in majestic form this season, losing only twice on their way to scoring a record 36 league goals at this stage of the season.
Signs are suggesting Wenger may finally have formed a team capable of ending The Gunners’ five-year wait for silverware, and with Chelsea on the horizon Robson warned The Blues to be prepared for a much more direct Arsenal side.
“In the last few seasons the fans have always talked about Arsenal’s intricate passing, and yes, they can pass the ball intricately and they are clever with their movement,” he explained on Sky Sports News.
“But Arsenal are now playing far more direct than they have for several seasons. I think that’s the change in philosophy Arsene Wenger has had this year.
“He’s maybe looked back to when Dennis Bergkamp was playing and when Thierry Henry was playing, Robert Pires and Freddie Ljungberg, and asked why did they create so many chances with their forward movement?
“That’s what he has tried to replicate this season.”
Great skill
Robson is keen to point out he does not mean ‘direct’ in the sense that Arsenal occasionally fell into whilst Emmanuel Adebayor played up front, he means ‘penetrative’ and ‘clinical’ for the want of two better words.
“You’ll very rarely see an Arsenal goal nowadays where they play a backward pass. They penetrate very quickly and they play a direct style of play.
“There are two types of direct football. There’s the direct style that Stoke will play with the centre forward flicking balls on, which gives the ball away cheaply but you’re applying pressure.
“There’s possession football where you pass the ball around and penetrate occasionally, but Arsene Wenger has the balance right now by getting his team to pass the ball forward in a direct manner, but with great skill.”
November 12, 2009 at 14:04
GTS…..gr8 article.
November 12, 2009 at 14:05
Gunners i will go along with that good point made there
November 12, 2009 at 14:06
KM.. the fans love him…
Take a look at where sunderland are in the table.. him and cattermole have formed a formidable partnership.. luckily for us his partner is out for a while.
He is a tough tackler and heading ability is decent.
November 12, 2009 at 14:07
buy who the fuck is staurt robson and when did he play for us
November 12, 2009 at 14:07
*but
November 12, 2009 at 14:07
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_5690846,00.html
Yaya on his future.
Inter are also after him. I hope he doesnt go to Italy. We also tend to lose out to Italian teams
November 12, 2009 at 14:08
Vela hasn’t jetted off has he?
November 12, 2009 at 14:09
Whisky nose has a 20,000 grand fine and a two game touch line ban. Also 2 further games suspended.
November 12, 2009 at 14:09
I dont care if we do, fuck him let him go to a shit team in a poor league
November 12, 2009 at 14:10
Fergie given 4 match ban
November 12, 2009 at 14:11
two suspended right??
November 12, 2009 at 14:11
Choy
not sure that he can do a better job than Song. However he’d be a gr8 addition. Not sure if Sunderland would sell him in January or on the cheap in the summer.
November 12, 2009 at 14:13
yeah, 2 suspended.
November 12, 2009 at 14:13
check out this comment frm a blogger on the guardian:
Arsenal will be there or thereabouts come the seasons end. When all are fit, the variety of their attacking options are perhaps the best in Europe (yes, in terms of depth of quality, even more so than Barcelona and Real Madrid) Incidentally if they had one of Fletcher or Hargreaves in their team (not to replace Song but rather complement him), (and perhaps a backup centre back that wasnt Silvestre) I believe their squad would be complete. United by contrast could do with any of the plethora of attacking midfielders Wenger has at his disposal. Chelsea, despite a slight tactical inbalance regarding the postioning of Essien/ Ballack in their first choice midfield have the leagues most formidable squad with a number of big game players able to raise their performance when the situation arises. Ultimately it looks like it will be a three horse race and enjoyable to the seasons end. The romantic in me would like Arsenal to win it, logic suggests Chelsea but if Ferguson’s uses his squad with a greater deal of tactical consideration to mask the absence of a certain creative spark, I wouldnt rule United out of collecting their 4th successive title.
November 12, 2009 at 14:14
cudicini has been taken to hospital after a ’serious’ motorcycle accident.
November 12, 2009 at 14:14
Yeah, 2 suspended.
But the fine is really pathetic, it would hurt him more if they gave him a chewing gum ban instead of the fine.
November 12, 2009 at 14:15
£37m on Nani and Anderson was mad. Anderson cost more than we’ve ever paid for a player. (I know we’re tight so no silly comments)
November 12, 2009 at 14:17
Cana is good for Sunderland but I wouldn’t want him near the club, doesn’t have the ability on the ball, and is another who’s a headless chicken. He’d never play ahead of Song, and I don’t see a situation where we’d play two DMs, one sitting, and another, Cana being high tempo tenacious running around kicking people.
November 12, 2009 at 14:17
rednose was supposed to be on a warning as well. The Fa are pussies. Manc loving cunts
November 12, 2009 at 14:17
The Duke of Le Grove is back, what’s on the agenda this afternoon? Also thanks to the replies on the Hornby and been spoilt debate, all answers have been read and noted
November 12, 2009 at 14:21
GM
agree – totally mad. rumour has it that ManU sold Ronaldo to help pay their debts and therefore they will not be buying big/star players this January window. if that is true, then imo ManU are defo heading for 3rd this year and will get raped in the Champions League.
November 12, 2009 at 14:23
nice read
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/nov/10/manchester-united-sir-alex-ferguson-chelsea?showallcomments=true#comment-51
November 12, 2009 at 14:23
GM, £37m on those 2 players who are yet to prove their worth (I’d pick Wilshere & Vela over them any day) and £31.75m on Berbatov who is way past his golden days (at Spuds). These few flop signings were the main reason Fergie was not allowed to spend a penny from the £80m ManU got from selling Cronaldo.
November 12, 2009 at 14:24
Fuckin pathetically typically weak FA!
Fining the scotch cunt a few quid instead of banningn him! Why am I even surprised?
Wenger gets a £20k fine for lookin at a ref funny and this cunt is allowed to abuse em at will…
November 12, 2009 at 14:27
apparently cudicini is in a “life changing situation” after his motorbike crash. They had the air ambulance out but didn’t use it. It was in walthamstow.
November 12, 2009 at 14:28
paul changing or threatening??
November 12, 2009 at 14:28
changing – ssn
November 12, 2009 at 14:29
Nick – according to the london evening telegraph website it’s a suspected broken pelvis, so shouldn’t be life threatening. Poor bloke though
November 12, 2009 at 14:30
I’m suprised they let him use a motorbike. I remember wright not being allowed to ride his harley.
November 12, 2009 at 14:32
fuck sounds like something wont work or will have to come off dont it
know his a spud but wouldn’t wish that on anyone poor cunt,great keeper till the chavs signed check out of the blue
November 12, 2009 at 14:32
GTS
i dnt think Berbatov is over the hill. i just think him and Rooney are too similar, hence why they haven’t been able to click and form a proper partnership.
November 12, 2009 at 14:33
me mate just said the same, richards at shitty has it in his contract he cant ride his bike
November 12, 2009 at 14:37
‘arry will be after david james in jan now.
November 12, 2009 at 14:38
its pretty normal they cant ride motorbikes and anything particularly dangerous. poor bugger, pelvis is a horrible one
November 12, 2009 at 14:38
Oh! Hes had a 2 game ban too
November 12, 2009 at 14:39
GTS
Gunners The Stunners Says:
November 12, 2009 at 14:23
GM, £37m on those 2 players who are yet to prove their worth (I’d pick Wilshere & Vela over them any day) and £31.75m on Berbatov who is way past his golden days (at Spuds). These few flop signings were the main reason Fergie was not allowed to spend a penny from the £80m ManU got from selling Cronaldo.
Do u think the main reason why Fergie hasn’t bought new players could also be the crazy amount of debt they have?
November 12, 2009 at 14:39
One of my clents who’s been a spud all his life said something interesting about players like keane and berbatov.When they play for the spuds the opposition think they can beat them and go at them giving them more space. When they play for pool or the mancs the other teams play more defensively and they don’t look so good. Apparently it makes them fortunes selling people like carrick for £20m
November 12, 2009 at 14:40
Shit, Life changin? does that mean he might be in a wheel chair???
November 12, 2009 at 14:41
ssn – fractured wrists and injured his pelvis. Should be okay then.
November 12, 2009 at 14:41
Suprised he’s allowed to ride a bike.
November 12, 2009 at 14:42
the police statement said life changing but now they’re saying it’s not as bad.
November 12, 2009 at 14:42
KM, Berba and Rooney are totally different in my opinion, but I guess everyone is entailed to theirs.
My argument would be that Rooney is a hard worker, who finds the net, Berba is lazy and stylish, more of an assister…
November 12, 2009 at 14:43
My manc colleague thinks count dracula is like cantona. I think he’s a lazy cunt
November 12, 2009 at 14:44
GM
interesting point. I also think that like Rooney, Berbatov likes to roam around the pitch, in the attacking 3rd…..getting involved in the build-up etc I think what ManU are lacking is a Torres/Anelka to race past defenders/stay around the box/finish off the chances. Berbatov is more like RvP of the past.
November 12, 2009 at 14:46
Duke
agree that rooney is more hard working/explosive and committed. However imo Berbatov is a very classy player. he should have stayed at Spurs, where it was a delight to watch him play.
November 12, 2009 at 14:46
GM I think his absolute pony, sulky over rated twat to be exact
November 12, 2009 at 14:48
interesting read….
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/nov/08/arsene-wenger-paul-hayward?showallcomments=true#start-of-comments
November 12, 2009 at 14:53
Gm good point re changing teams….
Look at Andy Cole…50 goals for the BarCodes followed by a very steep learning curve at Man U.
November 12, 2009 at 14:56
back l8r
November 12, 2009 at 14:58
KM, when ManU bought Nani & Anderson they were already in huge debt but they were winning & their owners put their faith in Fergie for new signings. Same thing happened when he signed Berbatov cos they won the Champions League. But this summer the situation was different when Cronaldo left for Madrid.
If it’s solely about their debt then expect Rooney’s departure in the summer as well cos the owners would want to pay off their debt and Rooney is the player they can get some really good cash for.
November 12, 2009 at 14:58
KM, I am sorry in advance for this comment, but it was a delight to watch spurs?
November 12, 2009 at 15:01
Duke i noticed that but let it go by,i know km aint a spud he loves the chavs too much
November 12, 2009 at 15:02
KM you say some funny things. I can’t think of anything being delightfull about the spuds.
November 12, 2009 at 15:03
GTS who would you see being in for rooney?
November 12, 2009 at 15:03
The amount ManU spent (I’d say wasted) on Berbatov, he should have been the top scorer in the league last season. They paid nearly £6m more then Liverpool paid for Torres (£26m) and he is the real deal once he is fit. Berbatov only managed to score 8 goals last season, Bendtner scored 8 goals but we didn’t pay crazy money for him…
November 12, 2009 at 15:03
you can’t call KM partisan can you lol
November 12, 2009 at 15:03
GM spuds relagation would delight me
November 12, 2009 at 15:04
Utd have a huge debt but they will not fade away without a fight. You can bet your bollocks Fergie wants the league wins record from his most hated rivals at Merseyside. If he achieves that I can see him fading away, whiskey on hand, into the sunset.
He’s the sort that wouldn’t give a tosh leaving the club in disarray, would only make his legend greater.
November 12, 2009 at 15:05
I was going to say a plane crash nick but thought better of it after cuddicini’s accident
November 12, 2009 at 15:06
http://irishsoccerinsider.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/french-and-irish-fall-out-over-box-incident/
November 12, 2009 at 15:06
Nick, probably Inter or Milan cos I don’t see him fitting in Barca or Madrid formation. Even though, Barca are rumoured to offer ManU £85m for him next summer which in my point of view is totally rubbish news.
November 12, 2009 at 15:06
Tell David that Stunner, he’ll rip your head off for any Bedntner comparisions to anything with more then one leg.
November 12, 2009 at 15:06
GM na tis a shame i think you need a bit of that to be fan
November 12, 2009 at 15:08
Stunner I reckon Rooney would replace Henry and be absolutely amazing on the left hand side of their system. Though if Barca have no money then that won’t be happening!
November 12, 2009 at 15:12
I thought Robinho was replacing henry
November 12, 2009 at 15:12
Just heard about Cudicini
No time for rivalry in times like this. I hope he makes a full recovery.
He looked a top top keeper at Chavski,and probably never fulfilled his early promise. I hope he can play again.
November 12, 2009 at 15:12
A, I read Cronaldo’s interview somewhere the other day where he said that he suggested Rooney to join him at Madrid next summer. I don’t see that happening if Madrid don’t win anything this season.
November 12, 2009 at 15:13
SUGA…that is fucking brilliant !!!
‘put the boxes discreetly inside’ – Lol
November 12, 2009 at 15:13
http://irishsoccerinsider.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/french-and-irish-fall-out-over-box-incident/
This is absolutely BRILLIANT!
November 12, 2009 at 15:14
Wow that travels fast, cant believe the link is already on here!
November 12, 2009 at 15:14
chipo its good but suga already posted it mate
November 12, 2009 at 15:17
KM;
So, you like the chavs, spuds and Arsenal…Hmmmm…. What about the Hammers fella?
A;
Rooney on the left for Barca? What have I told you about smokin crystal meth in the day time?
Seriously though. he aint got in him to ply his trade abroad. The only way that would happen is if Coleen fancied herself as Posh Spice mkII…
November 12, 2009 at 15:24
Rooney in Spain…never. They don’t live in caves in Madrid or Barca, might have to put him up at the zoo.
November 12, 2009 at 15:26
It’s not Friday yet, but enjoy:
Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres have today signed a new five year deal with Tampax…
I wonder if it has anything to do with the new company slogan….
In for a week and then out for a month
November 12, 2009 at 15:27
Duke…no offence pal, but did you bindip that off of Pedro..??
November 12, 2009 at 15:37
Steven Gerrard is jumping with joy in his living room, shouting: ‘Seven days, seven days’. Alex Curran walks in and asks: ‘What are you so happy about?’
Gerrard says: ‘It took me 7 days to put the puzzle together’, Alex asks ‘What is so great about it?’ Gerrard replies: ‘It says 3 years and up on the box’
November 12, 2009 at 15:38
speaking of bindipping
November 12, 2009 at 15:46
Sharkey, you can’t say no offence and then compare my joke to Pedro’s
November 12, 2009 at 15:47
suga,duke
pedro can only dream
November 12, 2009 at 15:48
mango where you been pumping some iron….called gym
November 12, 2009 at 15:49
Now Sharkey challenged me to post a good joke, FINE:
I used to visit prostitutes every week, but now I am a rapist instead.
Credit crunch and all that.
November 12, 2009 at 15:50
Duke
November 12, 2009 at 15:51
Apologies for my oxymoron Duke !!!
November 12, 2009 at 15:51
Mango what Duke said was a joke dont introduce it to costs cutting plan
November 12, 2009 at 15:52
Nick, Fletcher!
November 12, 2009 at 15:53
Geoff i knew, was just checking
November 12, 2009 at 15:53
Bindipped !!!! (might even have been from here !!)
80,000 Blondes gathered at Wembley Stadium for a “Blondes-Are-Not-So-Dumb” convention. The master of ceremonies says, “We are all here today to prove to the world that blondes are not so dumb. Can I have a volunteer?”
One pretty little blonde steps up, so the master of ceremonies asks her, “What is 15 plus 15?” After 15 or 20 seconds, she replies, “18.” Obviously everyone is a little disappointed. Then 80,000 blondes start chanting, “Give her another chance, give her another chance.”
The master of ceremonies says, “Well, since we’ve gone to the trouble of getting 80,000 of you here along with media from all over the world, I guess we can give her another chance.” So, asks her, “What is 5 plus 5?” After 15 or 20 seconds, she replies, “90.”
The master of ceremonies sighs. Everyone is crestfallen and the blonde starts crying. Again, the 80,000 girls start chanting, “Give her another chance, give her another chance.” Unsure whether or not he is doing more harm than damage, the master of ceremonies finally says, “Okay! One more chance. What is 2 plus 2?” After 15 or 20 seconds, she replies, “4.”
The stadium of 80,000 blondes start chanting, “Give her another chance, give her another chance.”
November 12, 2009 at 15:54
Nick, hahahaha
November 12, 2009 at 15:55
Sharkey, yeah heard it, but classic
November 12, 2009 at 15:57
Duke after the pedro comment that was very civil of you
November 12, 2009 at 15:58
Lampard cole and drogba have all withdrawn from their internation team complaining of injury.I bet all these cunts will feature in chelsea’s next league game.
November 12, 2009 at 15:59
I am out, see you tomorrow…
November 12, 2009 at 16:00
First year of marriage: the man speaks, the woman listens.
Second year: the woman speaks, the man listens.
Third year: they both speak and the neighbors listen.
November 12, 2009 at 16:00
Sharkey, you must hate blondes.
November 12, 2009 at 16:01
Cheers Duke….
November 12, 2009 at 16:01
laters Duke
November 12, 2009 at 16:03
i would just like to say im disgusted by the sexist under tones on here today…we all know theres an agenda with the jokes on here
November 12, 2009 at 16:04
im not one to argue but….
November 12, 2009 at 16:06
if the first team can’t beat city i doubt that this carling cup team will
November 12, 2009 at 16:08
The Carling cup team won’t have Song, Diaby and Almunia in it and two of those chumps were responsible for their goals BBK!
November 12, 2009 at 16:09
Two cows are standing in a field.
One says to the other “Are you worried about Mad Cow Disease?”
The other one says “No, It doesn’t worry me, I’m a horse!”.
Pedro i dont want to see this again tomorrow
November 12, 2009 at 16:14
Its a shame really geoff that wenger will not put out a stronger side in that comp,a day out at wembley and possibly winning it will go a long way for this lot
November 12, 2009 at 16:19
First Man: I bet I can make you speak like a Red Indian?
Second Man: How?
First Man: Told you I could.
November 12, 2009 at 16:26
This one’s for Jaguar
Watch our Friday night shows on Arsenal TV Online this week and you could soon be the proud owner of an Arsenal ‘poppy’ shirt – as worn by Abou Diaby.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/win-diaby-s-signed-poppy-shirt-on-friday-
November 12, 2009 at 16:46
i’m back! u guys couldn’t wait to put the knife in
i’m not a spurs fan!!! i was just saying that it was a joy to watch Berbatov play. He is a classy player. I dnt care that he played for Spurs nor would i have cared if he played for Hull. ppl on here admire Essien/Torres etc and they play for our rivals. I just think u guys got the wrong end of the stick.
November 12, 2009 at 16:49
So….Gerrard, Theo, Lampard,Ashley & Joe Cole all out.
I hope Brazil dnt embarrass England.
November 12, 2009 at 16:52
KM can you go again i wanna talk about you
November 12, 2009 at 16:52
KM, they’re just winding you up…
The truth is Berbatov was a class player when he played for Spuds. No doubt about that. He scored some great goals for them but he is nowhere near at his best at ManU. I also don’t see him getting any better as he’s been at OT for over a year now and he didn’t produce any performance you could remember.
November 12, 2009 at 16:59
Yesterday, scientists in the United States revealed that beer contains small traces of female hormones.
To prove their theory, they fed one hundred men twelve pints of beer and observed that 100% of them started talking nonsense and couldn’t drive.
November 12, 2009 at 17:01
Nick
what can i say….i’m the talk of the grove
GTS
i dnt think we’l see his best unless Rooney gets an injury and we see Berbatov play with Owen/Macheda
November 12, 2009 at 17:01
old but fun last one for tonight honest :8
A man walks into a bar and orders a 12-year-old scotch. The bartender, believing that the customer will not be able to tell the difference, pours him a shot of the cheap 3-year-old house scotch that has been poured into an empty bottle of the good stuff.
The man takes a sip and spits the scotch out on the bar and reams the bartender. “This is the cheapest 3-year-old scotch you can buy. I’m not paying for it. Now, give me a good 12-year-old scotch.”
The bartender, now feeling a bit of a challenge, pours him a scotch of much better quality, 6-year-old scotch. The man takes a sip and spits it out on the bar. “This is only 6-year-old scotch. I won’t pay for this, and I insist on, a good, 12-year-old scotch.”
The bartender finally relents and serves the man his best quality, 12-year-old scotch.
An old drunk from the end of the bar, who has witnessed the entire episode, walks down to the finicky scotch drinker and sets a glass down in front of him and asks, “What do you think of this?”
The scotch expert takes a sip, and in disgust, violently spits out the liquid yelling “Why, this tastes like piss,”
The old drunk replies, “That’s right, now tell me how old I am.”
November 12, 2009 at 17:01
November 12, 2009 at 17:06
City have Chelsea three days after the Carling Cup game with us so I’m not sure that they will be overly keen to risk their first team…unless they’ve given up on the League by then and desperate for a trophy.
November 12, 2009 at 17:14
Have I stumbled onto a spud blog by mistake?
Cheers everyone.. How’s the world treating ya today?
November 12, 2009 at 17:15
Nick;
Gym said he like it, so what can I do eh?
BBK;
Still taking the happy pills I see!!!
Geoff;
Still got a humoungous blind spot where Song is concerned I see!
November 12, 2009 at 17:15
Choy, if you promise to present dIaby shirt to Jaguar and geta phot o fthe ‘joyful moment’ than you can stick me down for contributing £50.
And no thats not for Song, Denilson, Bendtner and Eboue’s shirts as well !!!
November 12, 2009 at 17:17
Hey Rohan….
Its nothing you’ve said…honest…but I’m offski…
November 12, 2009 at 17:18
One day Jane met Tarzan in the jungle. She was very attracted to him and, during her questions about his life, she asked him how he managed for sex. “What’s that?” he asked. She explained to him what sex was, and he said, “Oh,Tarzan use hole in trunk of tree.”
Horrified, she said, “Tarzan you have that all wrong! I will show you how to do it properly.” She took off her clothes, lay down on the ground, and spread her legs wide. “Here,” she said, pointing, “You must put it in here.”
Tarzan removed his loincloth, stepped closer and then gave her an almighty kick in the crotch. Jane rolled around in agony. Eventually she managed to gasp, “Why the hell did you do that?”
“Tarzan check for bees!”
November 12, 2009 at 17:19
Joe took his blind date to the carnival. “What would you like to do first, Kim?” asked Joe. “I want to get weighed,” she said. They ambled over to the weight guesser. He guessed 120 pounds. She got on the scale; it read 117 and she won a prize.
Next the couple went on the ferris wheel. When the ride was over, Joe again asked Kim what she would like to do. “I want to get weighed,” she said. Back to the weight guesser they went. Since they had been there before, he guessed her correct weight, and Joe lost his dollar.
The couple walked around the carnival and again he asked where to next. “I want to get weighed,” she responded. By this time, Joe figured she was really weird and took her home early, dropping her off with a handshake.
Her roommate, Laura, asked her about the blind date, “How’d it go?”
Kim responded, “Oh, Waura, it was wousy.”
November 12, 2009 at 17:20
The pretty teacher was concerned with one of her eleven-year-old students. Taking him aside after class one day,she asked, “Little Johnny, why has your school work been so poor lately?”
“I’m in love,” the boy replied.
Holding back an urge to smile, she asked, “With whom?”
“With YOU!” he said.
“But Johnny,” she said gently, “don’t you see how silly that is? It’s true that I would like a husband of my own someday. But I don’t want a child.”
“Oh, don’t worry,” the boy said reassuringly, “I’ll use a rubber!”
November 12, 2009 at 17:21
The 10th grade teacher asks Jessica: “What part of the human body increases to 10 times it’s normal size when excited?”
Jessica responds: “That’s disgusting! I don’t have to answer that question!”
So the teacher asks little Johnny, who responds: “That’s easy…the pupil of the eye.” “That’s correct, Johnny. Very good!”
And turning to Jessica, she says: “I’ve three things to say to you, young lady… first, you didn’t do your homework; second, you have a dirty mind; and third, you’re in for a big disappointment!”
November 12, 2009 at 17:21
A circus owner walked into a bar to see everyone crowded about a table watching a little show. On the table was an upside down pot and a duck tap dancing on it. The circus owner was so impressed that he offered to buy the duck from its owner. After some negotiations, they settled on a figure of $10,000 for the duck and the pot.
Three days later the circus owner runs back to the bar in anger, “Your duck is a rip off! I put him on the pot before a whole audience, and he didn’t dance a single step!”
“So?” asked the ducks former owner, “did you remember to light the candle under the pot?”
November 12, 2009 at 17:23
i like the rubber one
November 12, 2009 at 17:25
How Can A Stranger Tell If Two People Are Married?
You might have to guess, based on whether they seem to be yelling at the same kids.
- Derrick, age 8
November 12, 2009 at 17:27
It’s time once again to review the winners of the Annual “Stella Awards.” The Stella Awards are named after 81 year-old Stella Liebeck of New Mexico who spilled hot coffee on herself and successfully sued McDonald’s. That case inspired the Stella awards for the most frivolous, ridiculous, successful lawsuits in the United States.
Here are this year’s winners:
7th Place:
Kathleen Robertson of Austin, Texas, was awarded $80,000 by a jury of her peers after breaking her ankle tripping over a toddler who was running inside a furniture store. The owners of the store were understandably surprised at the verdict, considering the misbehaving little toddler was Ms. Robertson’s son.
6th Place:
19-year-old Carl Truman of Los Angeles won $74,000 and medical expenses when his neighbor ran over his hand with a Honda Accord. Mr. Truman apparently didn’t notice there was someone at the wheel of the car when he was trying to steal his neighbor’s hubcaps.
5th Place:
Terrence Dickson of Bristol, Pennsylvania, was leaving a house he had just finished robbing by way of the garage. He was not able to get the garage door to go up since the automatic door opener was malfunctioning. He couldn’t re-enter the house because the door connecting the house and garage locked when he pulled it shut. The family was on vacation, and Mr. Dickson found himself locked in the garage for eight days. He subsisted on a case of Pepsi he found, and a large bag of dry dog food. He sued the homeowner’s insurance claiming the situation caused him undue mental anguish. The jury agreed to the tune of $500,000.
4th Place:
Jerry Williams of Little Rock, Arkansas, was awarded $14,500 and medical expenses after being bitten on the buttocks by his next door neighbor’s beagle. The beagle was on a chain in its owner’s fenced yard. The award was less than sought because the jury felt the dog might have been just a little provoked at the time by Mr. Williams, who had climbed over the fence into the yard and was shooting it repeatedly with a pellet gun.
3rd Place:
A Philadelphia restaurant was ordered to pay Amber Carson of Lancaster, Pennsylvania, $113,500 after she slipped on a soft drink and broke her coccyx (tailbone). The beverage was on the floor because Ms. Carson had thrown it at her boyfriend 30 seconds earlier during an argument.
2nd Place:
Kara Walton of Claymont, Delaware, successfully sued the owner of a night club in a neighboring city when she fell from the bathroom window to the floor and knocked out her two front teeth. This occurred while Ms.Walton was trying to sneak through the window in the ladies room to avoid paying the $3.50 cover charge. She was awarded $12,000 and dental expenses.
1st Place:
This year’s runaway winner was Mrs. Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Mrs. Grazinski purchased a brand new 32-foot Winnebago motor home. On her first trip home, (from an OU football game), having driven onto the freeway, she set the cruise control at 70 mph and calmly left the drivers seat to go into the back & make herself a sandwich. Not surprisingly, the RV left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Mrs.Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising her in the owner’s manual that she couldn’t actually do this. The jury awarded her $1,750,000 plus a new motor home. The company actually changed their manuals on the basis of this suit, just in case there were any other complete morons around.
November 12, 2009 at 17:27
Im sorry I forgot it isnt Friday
November 12, 2009 at 17:33
Am I in a timewarp?
November 12, 2009 at 17:34
LMAO Top three are great. Especialy 3rd place. I can imagine what that was like walking away all angery and sundenly sliping and breaking her tail bone.
November 12, 2009 at 17:35
No Big Raddy everyone is just bored. We have debated about shitty for long enough and there isnt much else to do.
November 12, 2009 at 17:44
Know the feeling Mr B. Shitty were my second team in the Bell/Summerbee era (probably long before you were born.). But now I think they are Devilspawn, hand assistants to Beelzebub and swallowers of man-juice.
Now my second team is Arsenal reserves
November 12, 2009 at 17:48
Gai Assulin is a Right Winger. He does have a bit of a Messi likeness about him. But Im not sure he’d fit into the team.
November 12, 2009 at 17:58
Manc perhaps you’re the blind one. I said many a time, if the marmites were replaced we’d be 4 points clear by now.
November 12, 2009 at 17:58
Me neither David. We have enough problems keeping the kids we have happy, and eventually we will lose the reputation for blooding and developing young talent, because there is no space in the first team for them apart from the CC.
I see us selling a few in summer.
November 12, 2009 at 18:09
Every team has marmites Geoff, if the current marmites were replaced then suddenly someone else would become a scapegoat for some, and an unsung hero for others
November 12, 2009 at 18:12
A, That is one of the certainties of football.
That I believe in the wonder of Bendtner and David thinks me insane, is part of the enjoyment of fandom.
I detested Perry Groves (not as a man), but others call him a ‘legend’.
Each to his own….
November 12, 2009 at 18:27
I do like that Ozin character though. Id be absolutely delighted if he came. The boy took England apart.
We do have to find who will take the place of Arshavin in the squad.
And no i dont think it will be Vela.
November 12, 2009 at 18:30
David, Arsh is 28, hardly the time to panic buy, let’s see how things go with Nasri and Vela.
November 12, 2009 at 18:30
A Very good read
http://goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2009/11/12/1620641/arsenal-special-thomas-vermaelen-stakes-claim-as-buy-of-the
November 12, 2009 at 18:31
Sorry i mean Ozil…Mesut Ozil.
The boy has a weird face but can he play.
I think we need to put everyone in context.
Diaby isnt looking like he will make it with us.
Ramsey is close and is already cover for Cesc.
Nasri is not a DM. He can play on either wing.
Mozart Sadly is gone. Or will stay on a 1year contract.
Theo is hardly fit…but will play on the right.
Bendy should be nowhere close to the team.
So that leaves room for Carlos and Boy Wonder
Not sure if Fran will sign a new contract.
I think there is still space for 1 or 2 players.
November 12, 2009 at 18:32
wilshere will take arshavin’s place in the squad, merida rosicky’s, sorted!
November 12, 2009 at 18:33
oh yeah, vela arshavin actually, merida rosicky, wilshere is just his own man
November 12, 2009 at 18:33
Too young. Too inexperienced. Injuries.
We’ve seen it all before.
November 12, 2009 at 18:35
huh David?! Neither will be going for a couple of years, by then they’ll be experienced enough to take over, and already competing for their places/keeping them out of the team!
November 12, 2009 at 18:35
Sorry A,
I like Vela alot but id rather he play centrally than outwide.
November 12, 2009 at 18:37
We all know Arsene wouldnt sign you if you are above 30.
Except your are Shitvestre.
Arshavin 2 years maybe 3 if we are lucky. Mozart 1 year or on a free.
Id rather a player like Fran and Rambo compete for the same spot than to play them together.
November 12, 2009 at 18:40
I wouldn’t David, not in the current system – you think we need someone bigger and more of a target man than VP, but would want Vela there?!
This system is built to suit vela amongst others, he’d neither a central forward, nor a wide man in a 4 man midfield, wide in a front three is perfect for him
November 12, 2009 at 18:40
Umm David he has a contract, even if he doesn’t accept the extension we have him for a bit. As for Vela I think he has the saem qualities as Arsh and could thrive as a LS.
November 12, 2009 at 18:42
Agreed to an extent A
Vela is talented in the 4-4-2 as well.
Even makes Bendtner look good.
Last time he played with Eduardo he got a goal and bagged in a few assists is what im saying.
We are yet to see Vela in the new system yea?
November 12, 2009 at 18:43
Rosicky at least one year David! There’s no way he’ll go on a free.
Merida and Ramsey are different types of players imo, and different footed, I would want them playing together, not going for the same positions. Ramsey and Merida with Vela and Wilshere out wide will probably end up being back up/replacements for Cesc and Nasri, with Arshavin and Rosicky out wide.
November 12, 2009 at 18:43
Quite the opposite.
They do have some similarities except for the fact that Arshavin is 2-footed and he scores from pretty much anywhere on the pitch.
November 12, 2009 at 18:44
Yeah to an extent David, apart from pre season, and a brief cameo in the League Cup, though it’s the system he excelled in at Osasuna, and does for Mexico
November 12, 2009 at 18:45
Arsenal team in 3-4 years no new signings.
Fab
Sagna-Verm-Ayling/Bartley-Gibbs
Ramsey-Coqelin-Nasri
Theo-Nik-Vela
I’m assuming Fab has left and RvP makes sub appearances because of arthritis.
November 12, 2009 at 18:46
Mexico play a 4-3-3?
Wow.
Im pretty sure it was a 4-4-2 with that dos santos boy supporting and Blanco in the hole.
November 12, 2009 at 18:46
Yeah Arshavin’s 2 footedness is amazing, though there isn’t another player in the world who is that two footed so we won’t find a perfect replacement for him! I really think Vela will be competing with Arshavin by the end of the season. Arshavin is capable of doing things that Vela can’t, but Vela I think will be more involved and fit into the system more than Arshavin does at times.
November 12, 2009 at 18:47
Mayank…Watt will take Bendy’s place.
November 12, 2009 at 18:49
I think we need someone who’s not fitted into the system at all times. Arsh provides an excellent foil to the rest of our team, his directness and effectiveness is something to behold.
November 12, 2009 at 18:50
Yeah David, that’s what they’ve played when I’ve seen them, Vela and Dos Santos either side of the central striker, be it Blanco or Sabah, and Vela and Dos Santos switching sides with each other
November 12, 2009 at 18:50
Mesut Ozil, Mario Balloteli, Edin Hazzard, all on my Christmas list.
I think we should go for Marcos Senna again in January.
November 12, 2009 at 18:51
Mayank you’ve got no Wilshere there, nor Merida! Wilshere especially
November 12, 2009 at 18:51
I don’t know David you tell me…
Sorry for the bad joke it’s late here…:D
November 12, 2009 at 18:52
Agreed
I think when Cesc scored his second against the Spuds they were suprised by his directness.
Its refreshing to see it instead of the constant side to side football.
I hate to say it but it was Rooney-esque.
November 12, 2009 at 18:53
Oops!
Well Theo central and JW right.
November 12, 2009 at 18:56
Rooney-esque my ass, it was Maradona-esque..
November 12, 2009 at 18:58
so we are linked with a player called gai and mesut,has anyone seen much of these two??????
November 12, 2009 at 19:03
i feel there is far to much focus has been put on toure and ade for next carlingcup game wenger stoped thinking about those 2 long a ago and its just another game,i would not play rvp at all we need think about keeping your best players fresh for the prem and champoins legue if this was carling cup final then it might be worth playing him but unless that happens wenger should stick with young players and its very important see hwo well these young players perform away from home
November 12, 2009 at 19:09
no leon wenger should not stick with these young players we need to win something and this comp is a good chance to do that
November 12, 2009 at 19:12
Theo cannot play central in our current system mainly because he cannot hold the ball up, and does not have enough composure, his pace is perfectly suited the playing on the right in our current system, cesc, arsh and rvp will find him all day long
November 12, 2009 at 19:23
Geoff;
Maybe my maths is bad, but how could we be 4 points clear exactly? We are 5 points behind and have dropped 8 points all season… The fact you are suggesting we should’ve won every game is daft enough, but do we get an extra point for being cool too? Oh, you must be including the game in hand we havent played yet.
Your logic is still way dodgy. Been a long day huh?
November 12, 2009 at 19:26
Vela is perfectly suited to our brand of 4-3-3, as is Theo, nasri, Rosicky, Wilshire, Watt, Sunu and so on… It aint a coincidence or a fluke either…
November 12, 2009 at 19:27
Gunnergetyou;
I imagine Theo is destined for that right side of the 3 fella…
November 12, 2009 at 19:28
BBK;
You fancy a side bet to go along with our other mcn shitty bet?
November 12, 2009 at 19:39
bbk it depends on prem games and champoins legue and yes it simportant to win something but also i feel its good to have a blend of young players + experienced players and i dont think its worth risking rvp for early stages of carling cup but again it all depends on fixtures and injuries and rvp,song,gallas vern ahve played every week,i feel the young players we have are good enough just need some experienced players
November 12, 2009 at 19:43
the league cup doesn’t count as winning something for the first team! 3rd and winning nothing is better than 4th and winning the league cup imo
November 12, 2009 at 19:46
A;
I agree there. FFS! We are probably the only country that has 2 domestic cups anyways… Sure it’d be nice for the yutes…
November 12, 2009 at 20:08
True Mang, and the only country where the main domestic cup is taken very seriously! The FA Cup is the most prestigious domestic cup competition in the world, and even that isn’t a big deal anymore, the league cup is just a joke, but has been made semi-worthwhile as it’s good experience for the kids
November 12, 2009 at 20:09
the league cup would be a good start for a team that aint won anything for 4-5 years, unless you count the fa youth cup
if we play a mixture of youth and experience we have a good chance,
but i dont think we can win anything with silvest, senderous and gilbert in our defence at the same time.
November 12, 2009 at 20:12
GGY;
Well, they did well in the last game. I think Gilbert might give way to Eboue, actually. And I thought both Silvestre and Senderos did well too.
But as A says, we are the only league to have 2 domestic cups and its pretty daft to make it out to be a big deal… Its only the media and likkle teams like the spuds that big it up.
November 12, 2009 at 20:15
well prehaps if the first team played in the league cup more offen and went on to win it they might be able to go on and win the league due to knowing what its like to actually win something.As it stands it’s the only real sort of chance of winning something but only if wenger puts a a first team 11
November 12, 2009 at 20:16
you woud rather finish 3rd and win nothing thats the sort of shite that people get excited about hese days and why we have settled for shit for so long
November 12, 2009 at 20:18
yeah mang, but i just cant wait for the media to shut-the-fuck-up about our trophy drought, its mentioned every time we play.
November 12, 2009 at 20:19
It’s a reflection of how football has changed BBK, finishing one place higher up is more of an achievement than winning the league cup now, but some fans havn’t cottoned on to that.
ggy sendy and silvestre did well last time, i’m going for
fabianski
eboue senderos silvestre traore
ramsey denilson merida
theo vela wilshere
I reckon that team could beat city
November 12, 2009 at 20:20
Oh dear BBK.
You seriously think winning the poxy carling Cup will lead to any other success? hats hilarious!
Wenger’s record in the carling cup is pretty effin good anyways. Fergie would only play his kids if he could, but trhey’d get stuffed by the likes of Coventry at home!
November 12, 2009 at 20:21
nah it’s not a especially if we claim to be a big club that keeps on banging on about how much talent we posses but continue to serve up the same bollocks
November 12, 2009 at 20:21
though if it’s the difference between 11th and 12th then winning the league cup is probably better actually, but the difference between playing in europe and not, or going into the group stages and having the qualify, is much much greater and more significant for the future of the club than winning the league cup or not.
November 12, 2009 at 20:22
yeah wengers record is great a few semi finals a final but never won it
November 12, 2009 at 20:22
Gunnergetyou;
Yeah, I know mate. Every article’s 1st paragraph will mention it wont they! Twats the lot of em…
I think we have a good chance of beating the northern chavs whoever gets a game…
November 12, 2009 at 20:23
bbk we are a big club, so the league cup doesn’t matter to us, it only matters to little clubs, who have no chance of winning anything else. The league, champs league, and fa cup to a lesser extent are the be all and end all, the league cup would just be an irritating inconvenience if it wasn’t the chance to give the kids playing time. It’s BECAUSE we’re a bit club that it doesn’t matter.
November 12, 2009 at 20:23
BBK
Of FFS! You are a whiny old soak mate! Its the ONLY effin domestic thing he hasnt won!
November 12, 2009 at 20:26
a each year we qualify for the champions league we get to the quarters semis play english teams and get knocked out we got to the final for the first time and lose,are we ever going to actually win the thing? we have been empty handed in the league for 5 years now,prehaps if we go on to win the carling cup we just might be able to go on and win some more silverware it won’t hurt will it to actually put out our strongest 11 and try and win the thing
November 12, 2009 at 20:26
being that theres only premier league teams left in the league cup, it could be harder to win than the fa cup, depending on the draw. how else could you explain a portsmouth vs cardiff final. im sure all the clubs left in the competition will be taking it seriously, including the mancs and the chavs
November 12, 2009 at 20:26
a incase you havent noticed we havent won fuck all either for the past 4-5 years is that big club mentality
November 12, 2009 at 20:27
bbk getting to the quarters of the champs league is a bigger achievement than winning the whole league cup, i care about us competing with the best teams around, not having shiny silverware to put in the trophy cabinet.
November 12, 2009 at 20:28
“continue to serve up the same bollocks…”
Considering the season is not even half way done and we are scorin goals a plenty, still lookin good in every thing, players have come on big styleee, I really do not understand what you mean?
Unless you are are kinda willing us t fail so you can beat yourself up some more???
November 12, 2009 at 20:28
we wont win the champions league and we wont win the league the only chance to win something for us are in the domestics
November 12, 2009 at 20:28
yeah it is bbk, we’ve gotten to the champs league final, and semi final, which is WAY bigger than winning the league cup every season….
November 12, 2009 at 20:29
compete and end up getting beaten for the past 12 years if that’s achieveing something ,well
November 12, 2009 at 20:34
it’s not achieving what we want to achieve bbk, but it’s more of an achievement than winning the whole league cup. Being in the top 2, or 4 in Europe, rather than being the best out of a mix of reserve and first teams in the football league and premier league
November 12, 2009 at 20:34
BBK
Hahaha! You chat about a big club mentality, when you’re the one saying we wont win shit! What a joke…
November 12, 2009 at 20:35
Its not about winning it’s the taking part bit that counts
November 12, 2009 at 20:35
m.g we used to be a big club not any more
November 12, 2009 at 20:36
SO Diaby will play for France.Thats happy news indeed
November 12, 2009 at 20:37
Why do you bother? It must be such a pain to have to support Arsenal… All the pain and suffering you have to go thru… I mean, Arsenal has always won stuff hasnt it>>> ERm…
November 12, 2009 at 20:39
m.g if our recent drought does not worry then i think you the one who’s shouldn’t be bothered
November 12, 2009 at 20:43
yeah it is bbk, we’ve gotten to the champs league final, and semi final, which is WAY bigger than winning the league cup every season….
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I would never agree with it.We were not consistent in the CL last season,and hobbled all along the way till the semis before we lost a decent team.I would have been happy with a domestic cup last season.Not that I care about the mickey mouse cup.
November 12, 2009 at 20:44
BBK;
I go and watch the team, support the players, etc coz they are my team. I enjoy the games, especially the wins!
If you dont get that same enjoyment (if you go to games, or watch on TV, whatever?) then you seriously should find something else to do with your time…
Winning trophies is fantastic, but what the fuck d you do if we dont?? Stop supporting them? Become a chav, or a manc? What about supprters of the likes of Charlton, Leeds, Scunthorpe??? They must be all fuckin mugs! Supporting teams that wont win the champions league…
November 12, 2009 at 20:44
I accept there is a price to pay if a club moves to a new stadium.
I happily follow my team who play the best football in the world.
Winning trophies is the icing on the cake.
I am patient – I wish more people were.
November 12, 2009 at 20:45
Well said. M.G.
November 12, 2009 at 20:46
Jaguar;
Haha! I almost missed your 1st post fella! Slating Diaby yet again…. Nice work dude!
November 12, 2009 at 20:47
what a ridiculous logic!Dont say that those fans wouldnt want them to win any silveware?
And if someone finks that Arsenal are in the same league as Charlton,Leeds and the likes,they need to get a reality check,before accusing others of being plastic fans.
November 12, 2009 at 20:48
Where did I slate Diaby,MG?If I want Diaby to play for France,how am I slating him?;)
November 12, 2009 at 20:50
that’s charlton,leeds and scunny not arsenal.
November 12, 2009 at 20:50
Jagyar;
I might have known you show yourself up with your lack of knowledge!!
You mean Leeds, who were in the semis of the CL and spending money like it was goin out of fashion eh?
Or maybe Burnley, Derby, Nott Forest, Sheff Wednesday? You know BIG teams who won titles, but where are they now?
The arrogance to assume that they are not big teams is incredible, considering their history…
November 12, 2009 at 20:51
BBK;
It is pointless bothering to try and explain it to you. You simply do not getit.
November 12, 2009 at 20:52
Jabuar;
It was a joke, FFS…
November 12, 2009 at 20:52
Blackburn rovers had a Premier League title, when Liverpool has zilch.So does it imply somefin?
November 12, 2009 at 20:53
How do you get my name wrong every single time,MG?
November 12, 2009 at 20:53
m.g if your happy with entertaining football and no out come that’s up to you im not.
November 12, 2009 at 20:53
Goonerman;
Well said before dude.
November 12, 2009 at 20:55
All this patience bollocks what for we want it all and we want it now
November 12, 2009 at 20:56
Your only saying lets be patience because you know we are going to end up with fuck all again
November 12, 2009 at 20:57
BBK;
Oh FFS! Its about being a SUPPORTER! Its about goin to the games, havin a laugh, watching the team perfom, seeing players come thru, getting pissed, goin thru the highs and lows… Basically, its about EVERYTHING!
The trophies is a small part of it, dont get me wrong, I get gutted when we lose, took me ages to get over the spud 4-4 last season. But it is about the whole thing, the whole experience..
Those who constantly go on about trophies all the fucking time are missing a trick, IMO…
Its really difficult to explain mate… We’d need to do it over a few beers! Not on here!
November 12, 2009 at 20:58
B.B.K. Says:
November 12, 2009 at 20:56
Your only saying lets be patience because you know we are going to end up with fuck all again
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I feckin love you man! Not in a gay way, but you feckin crack me up!!!
November 12, 2009 at 20:59
Jaguar;
Sorry dude! I dont get it either? The G aint even near the B is it???
November 12, 2009 at 21:00
Feck me! I need a drink! Anyone fancy a pint???
November 12, 2009 at 21:01
Laterssssssss
Sorry if I have gone a bit! And sorry if my language has been a bit much too… Didnt mean to antagonise or slate anyone…
November 12, 2009 at 22:00
Loving your work ManG !!!
“Those who constantly go on about trophies all the fucking time are missing a trick, IMO…”
November 12, 2009 at 22:21
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2009/11/12/1620641/arsenal-special-thomas-vermaelen-stakes-claim-as-buy-of-the
nice article about ou verminator!
November 12, 2009 at 22:29
Mangoonian
Re your 20:57 post I couldn’t put it better myself.
We all want to win a trophy as a culmination of a season but there have been much longer periods of time where we have been no where near any success in the past.
I have been regularly going to watch Arsenal play since the Don Howe/Terry Neil era and boy at times were we rubbish.
I agree there have been loads of lows with some highs and people need a little more patience..
November 12, 2009 at 23:05
Do you guys think that there is genuine interest in Ozil? Why else would his agent refuse to comment on it and he said Ozil needs to concentrate. Would he say that if we haven’t shown an interest?
November 12, 2009 at 23:12
bbk chats bollocks he thinks were shite and thinks we are the onlybig club not to have won anything for 4-5 years liverpool barcelona inter ac milan have all had spells where they havent won their lge recently for longer then that
wenger has made mistakes during that time but as a whole i wouldnt swap the wenger era for nothing
ihis year the team can do it, yes we need to 1-2 players in jan to help back up the defensive side of our squad, i wouldnt swap our squad for anyones
November 12, 2009 at 23:18
Well said MarkG
November 12, 2009 at 23:24
That sort of thing always happens Pat, it’s the same rhetoric every agent comes out with whether there’s anything in it or not! I’d be shocked if there was any genuine interest, Wenger has already talked about needing to make space for the likes of Ramsey and Merida, Wilshere will end up central too, adding another young player to an already overloaded set wouldn’t make much sense to me, not to mention for a fair bit of money.
November 12, 2009 at 23:27
I can only hope that Wenger wouldnt leave the responsibilities of Alex Song to the likes of Diaby,when he is off to the ACN,without bringing in a quality DM.
November 12, 2009 at 23:31
It’ll be Denilson there Jaguar, not Diaby, which is absolutely adequate imo, we should be fine for those 3-4 matches. I wouldn’t rule out someone like Matuidi coming in, but they wouldn’t play straight away anyways. I reckon if Wenger thought Diaby could play that role then he would’ve played there rather than Ramsey against Wolves
November 12, 2009 at 23:35
I am wary of Denilson making an immediate impact. He has played alongside Song the whole of last season.He is more of an interceptor than a tackler. He would do well,if paired alongside an inform Song,but I dont bank on him to do a DM’s job which Song has been doing pretty good this season.Another horrifying aspect would be to see Wenger starting Diaby every single match,citing his height.
November 12, 2009 at 23:39
thats true jag
for me the only other dm at our club is cocquelin and now eastmond
November 12, 2009 at 23:39
Jaguar Song and Denilson only both played when Cesc was out, I reckon he’ll be more than capable in a three man midfield of doing the job, more so than in a 4-4-2 alongside cesc. I would expect to see Diaby play to add some physicality against Villa and Bolton away, but there are only four games so even if it was every single match it isn’t that big a deal, we should be fine.
November 12, 2009 at 23:40
Or I’d also be happy with Senderos playing DM if physicality was THAT necessary, have to just wait and see what happens
November 12, 2009 at 23:50
Is bbk cheering you all up again?
November 12, 2009 at 23:51
people might shoot me down for this but I think Nasri could play the dm role very well. I remember reading some French coach saying he could play there as well as Wenger saying it. I know he had a few dodgy trials there before and he is a brilliant attacking threat but I think he could do a job there for a few games .
November 12, 2009 at 23:55
ThatArsenalGuy when they were talking about Nasri, they were talking about him playing the Pirlo role, deep lying playmaker, alongside a proper defensive player. He hasn’t had any dodgy trials there either! All common mistakes that seem to have been accepted as if they were true! Nasri has never played as our main DM without a proper DM playing, and really couldn’t imo.
November 13, 2009 at 00:08
”i wouldn’t swap our squad anyones”Are you sure about that
November 13, 2009 at 00:12
I certainly wouldn’t bbk, absolutely noone in england
November 13, 2009 at 00:12
”i wouldn’t swap our squad for anyones”Are you sure about that,lets be real now havin djourou,senderos,eboue,bendtner,denilsong,almoonia,fabianski,mannone and the other goal keeper in you squad you are bound to go through a barren spell and a long one at that
November 13, 2009 at 00:23
If you woulnt want to swap Diaby for Fletcher,then I have absolutely no comments.
November 13, 2009 at 00:25
Fletcher is an over rated wanker. we did all that this afternoon.
November 13, 2009 at 00:28
yeah,so was Ronaldo,GM.
November 13, 2009 at 00:33
I didn’t say that Jaguar. I hate ronaldo but I think he’s probably slightly better than fletcher. I don’t really rate diaby much either but 6 months ago most mancs felt about fletcher like you feel about diaby. Fletcher is trying too hard to be roy keane. Spiteful cunt
November 13, 2009 at 00:33
I would absolutely swap Diaby for Essien..or even Mikel but thats about it. Oh i do like Zhirkov tho…wouldnt mind him at the grove.
November 13, 2009 at 00:35
Diaby for Essien is a joke.
November 13, 2009 at 00:35
Fletchers importance to the mancs just shows how weak thier squad is.
November 13, 2009 at 00:36
they’d have to give us bosingwa as well
November 13, 2009 at 00:37
All Fletcher has going for himself if an amazing workrate. Aside from that he is a championship footballer at best.
November 13, 2009 at 00:38
Diaby = Essien+Cech+Bosingwa+Lampard+150m.
November 13, 2009 at 00:38
And an uncanny knack of not getting booked by the ref, even after committing horrific fouls,Stu.
November 13, 2009 at 00:39
And getting sent off in the CL semi and missing the final
November 13, 2009 at 00:40
That uncanny knack comes as part of being employed by united. All mancs have that “talent”.
November 13, 2009 at 00:40
And crying that he’s being victimised. Now it’s all Wengers fault apparently
November 13, 2009 at 00:42
I’m off now. See you later. Diaby is our player. Fletcher is a cheating manc cunt
November 13, 2009 at 00:42
And Johnny Evans.What a thug!Obertan even worse.
November 13, 2009 at 00:43
Jaguar Says:
November 13, 2009 at 00:23
If you woulnt want to swap Diaby for Fletcher,then I have absolutely no comments.
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Ahh, if only! Hahaha!
Have you heard the news fucknutz?
Fat Frank is out for 8 weeks, apparantly..
November 13, 2009 at 00:44
I think A meant swapping entire squads, not just cherry pickin dudes!
November 13, 2009 at 00:44
goonermichael;
Yes mate, true and check you laters…
November 13, 2009 at 00:47
Obertan must be one of their shittest buys in recent years. Having seen him come on as a sub in one of their matches he was pathetic. Just stood in the same place for about 30seconds until the ball fell at his feet and missed a sitter. Other than that he has just been anonymous.
November 13, 2009 at 00:51
Fuckerson’s knack in spotting, the best of diving cheats from round the globe is indeed commendable.
November 13, 2009 at 00:56
lol what a load of shit these papers love to hype this shit up,cuntpard out for 8 weeks
November 13, 2009 at 01:03
What happened Fat Frank? Did his ankles finally break under all the weight.
November 13, 2009 at 01:04
True, could be complete bullshite! But, let’s wait and see my cynical pal!
November 13, 2009 at 01:05
Him and Rooney had a fight over the last doughnut…
November 13, 2009 at 01:11
By the time we play the chavs, they’re have no friggin team left…
Ny evil plan is working… Mwoooohaahaahaahaahaa!!!
Good night and good luck…
November 13, 2009 at 02:42
I’ve never seen Lampard injured and if true, we are very lucky. Him and Cesc always cancel each other out.
Drogba will probably be fit, but Bosingwa and Lampard injuries seem serious.
November 13, 2009 at 06:35
Collection of Gunners names:-
Does Wenger go for a collection of players names resembling deadly weapons e.g.
AK47 Arshavin, B52 Bomber, RVP Revolver, V5 Verminator
November 13, 2009 at 07:24
Damn interlull!!
Wtf we supposed to do this weekend?
November 13, 2009 at 07:42
Just heard about Fat Frank. That’s a shame, isn’t it!
ArsenalKenya: very good point. Love it.
November 13, 2009 at 08:26
Lampard got a cramp traveling cattle class it seems
November 13, 2009 at 08:44
arsenal kenya: hahaha spot on
November 13, 2009 at 08:46
I think it’s BS.
It’s probably a cunning move by Ancelotti to save him for the chavs.
If it’s true then we have no excuse not to tear them a new one on the 29th
November 13, 2009 at 09:00
Verminatoooorrrrrrrr
November 13, 2009 at 09:03
Spectacularrrrrrrrr
November 13, 2009 at 09:22
You can just feel that manure are teetering on the edge of the slide down the gurgler. Can I be the one to give them & their disgusting fans the big shove that sends them tumbling
November 13, 2009 at 09:23
New post, sorry it’s late!
November 15, 2009 at 00:19
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