Ok, so I ended up watching the match in some Soho bar, dressed as the mad hatter. My report will be strictly note form today, exactly as I saw the match. Apologies for the lack of craft, this is totally blackberry!
Notes:
Scored more goals than we’ve scored before, but conceded the most in our Premier League history.
Rambo starts the game ahead of Song because Wenger wants to give him a run out. Geoff predicted correctly!
Wolves make the first chance of the game with a looping kevin doyle header. Gibbs cleared off the line.
Ebanks Blake gets a header off from a corner that fizzed past Almunia’s near post.
Wolves were playing a high line which Van the man nearly exploited.
Eduardo had a shout for a penalty turned down. What a joke, it was a nailed on one. Match of the day of course didn’t show that one.
Wolves continued to exploit us aerially. They had a game plan, and it was doing well. Diaby took a few minutes out to allow us to gain composure… I hoped! Song took his place, then I realised it wasn’t a a cunning Diaby plan. This team amendment would hopefully allow Rambo the chance to get forward.
Arsenal picked up a free kick after Eduardo was cynically shoved over. RVP fizzed in the free kick…it missed everyone and went in off Zubar. I jumped up, saw Eduardo waving his finger…assumed it was disallowed, thankfully it was just an admittance that the goal wasn’t his. Arsenal were undeservedly ahead.
Arsenal started to dominate.
Song broke up play in the middle, laid it off to Rambo whose pace allowed him to beat his man, he then passed to Eduardo who with one touch, chipped Hennesey in stunning fashion, well maybe a tiny deflection.
Sagna won the ball in his own half and gave it to Cesc, who then passed it back to Sagna, who elegantly chipped the ball to Van persie, who stunned the ball to Cesc, who buried it inside Henneseys near post. Fab-ulous stuff. Sagna loves an assist lately, eh?
The second half started slowly. I did wonder to myself why Rambo didn’t start ahead of Diaby? Song was reassuring in the middle, cleaning up like Ashley Cole in a room full of ugly hair dressers. Aaron Ramsey was a touch unpredictable in the first half, but going forward he looked every bit the player we’d hoped for.
Gibbs was booked for a challenge he tried to pull out of… …harsh in my opinion.
Arshavin scored our fourth after he buried the punch out back into the net from twenty yards out, super, super strike.
Arsenal dominated the rest of the game until the 89th minute when I said to my friend,
‘This is when we concede’
Sure enough, we gave away a needless corner, Vermaelen lost his marker and Wolves nabbed their consolation goal. I had a disagreement with a few of the grovers about late goals. My view is if you concede enough of them, it becomes a mental issue. I think its apparent we have a problem now, it doesn’t bode well for the big games does it? 4 late goals in 5 games, very upsetting from a perfectionist point of view.
Conclusion.
Superb play at times after a shaky start, who cares though, we are second, and if today is a draw, we can go top by beating the chavs, so after much soul searching, I asked the postmeister Geoff for his opinion on the ideal result, and we both agreed a draw would suit, a nil, nil one, followed by 4 sendings off for violent conduct.
Have a super Sunday and let’s hope for the perfect result to finish off a great weekend.
Le Grove is now smart phone compatible!
Pedro
Geoff
first
Romp to first post
Snap! Krackle! and…?
sweet, I wouldn’t be up this early but my little boy was up and loud and I have a cracking hangover…. ..morning
Wow
top 5??
Sweet Jesus
Morning and goodbye, my job today here is done, great post Pedro! Gunner8, get some sleep.
cleaning up like ashley cole in a room full of hair dressers! Classic
You have to wonder if Diaby is doing an Almunia, he knows his chances will now be limited so limps off
trying, but the little lad wants to play
a draw today will be good for us.
Apologies to take your fire Pedro, put a lot of work on mine.
REPOST!!
My thoughts on the game..
First off, I may earn a yellow for this later but I thought a lot of the commentary on the Grove was a disgrace. Some of you lot are such whining moaning bitches, first you endlessly berate Song and now you want him in the 11, then you can’t wait for Ramsey to get playing time and then you whine when he starts. The bottom line I have had to accept is no matter what their will always be a debbie downer in the crowd but when the comments start applauding injuries it comes across as very twat-ish imo. Their were fellows on here who couldn’t wait to start rubbing their clits at home with news of Diaby’s injury, and that’s a bloody shame. Ok RANT over.
Lets talk football..
It was a typical EPL away sort of fixture so many of Arsene’s team have had trouble dealing with in the past with complacency setting in too often mixed with a lackadaisical approach. But this team, SO FAR they have proven us all wrong bar the nervousness in Manchester. As expected the first 15-20 mins Wolves got amongst us and tried to challenge for every ball and close our play down hard. They succeeded for the most part but lets be honest we all should know by now that that cannot go on for the full 90. Once the floodgates opened it was always going to be pouring. It would be interesting to see how we would react on a similar fixture where we concede first but that has not happened yet so fingers crossed.
Sagna
Was good in defense and solid all around I thought. He was not exactly marauding down the sides but all in all a solid stable performance from a very reliable player.
Gallas
Had a few balls he had to chase and make last ditch tackles for, one which earned him a yellow. He was a little behind the run of play at the start and this is the type of game we would have conceded in early with Kolo’s nervousness and similarity at his side last term. Not the case anymore, and I thought he picked up his game well and good for him his tackles came off.
TV
Good solid game again. His left foot almost provided some wonderful route 1 assists more then once when Wolves were amongst us and chasing every ball in midfield. A gem of a find he has been and call me AKB all you like on this one but credit where credit is due, their is only one Arsene Wenger to buy a 5′11 left back a few months ago and have him be a dominant CB in the most competitive league in the world. He lost his marker for the set piece in the end but I can guarantee the way this man plays he will be beating himself over it more then any of us will.
Gibbs
Young Gibbs is coming along slowly but surely. I think he is better in the tackle then Clichy already but leaves a bit to be desired position and passing wise. I would also expect more interceptions and disruption of opposition play from him. He had several passes not come off but I will cut him some slack for having too much nervous energy. I think he will settle soon, decent game but I look for improvement.
Diaby
I felt he was having an ALRIGHT game, this was preciously the type of game he needed to step up in and not get caught with the ball at his feet. He had some misplaced passes but in the 20 odd mins it seemed he would grow with the game. I am not trying to defend him, but like everyone else I seem to notice his performance/mistakes a bit more then others and am trying to cut him some slack for once. Maybe I just feel bad about an injury, but I STILL think he has a role to play for us during the course of the season and we will need his particular physical game at times. The wall looked tiny for example. Hope its nothing serious, recover well Abou.
Ramsey
Rambo showed a lot of things today. He has an amazing engine and was running the entire game, I for one did not know that before today’s performance. You could tell he was really up for it, I am glad Wenger has the lad motivated to prove a point and claim a starting role not just given one for the sake of it. But he also showed his naivety at times, his passes did not come of too well and his teamwork and understanding with the squad leaves a bit to be desired. Also like Gibbs he has too much nervous energy atm but let me stand back and say he is one of the most physically developed and complete 18 yr olds I have ever seen. The teamwork and interplay will come for sure, seems like another Wenger gem he will need to polish properly. I think we have a beast on our hands.
Fab4
Cesc was majestic, he is becoming such a complete player and to think he is only 22. Long may he stay and long may all of us love him, not much to add here really.
Arshavin
Great performance from the little Russian. I feared he would not show up to this game and play down to the oppositions level but him and the squad look motivated and focused right which should cause a lot of fear for opposing defenses in the coming months. You could tell he wanted to get on the score sheet when the tie was secure, good for him.
Eddy
He had a solid game, I say this quietly and while throwing some salt over my shoulder but since his return from the ghastly injury he looks faster almost and his teamwork and interplay is off the charts now. We know he is clinical and will pop up in the right place at the right time, two O.Gs were both caused by him, brilliant performance, enough said.
RVP
Mr. Arsenal showed up to the party yet again. Like Arsene said he is fully ingrained in the way we play now. Maybe I won’t go as far as saying he is the best CF in the country but in our setup and our style I cannot think of a better player who is both able to do the setup work for others and be a constant goal threat himself. When was the last time Torres and Drogba climbed up the assist ladder like that?
Song
So I’ll put my hand up and admit I had a rant about him till midway of last term and I was wrong as wrong can be. Geoff may go on berating him all he wants but I fear there may be some humble pie in the long run for him. I have had half of my pie already, yes there is still some ways to go yet for Song but he has really really grown on me. Most improved player I have ever seen in 6-8 odd months by a country mile. Very assured, calm and stable performance today.
I would love Manure to win, they seem weaker than Chelski
it was fabregas who took the corner for the first goal not van persie.
Great post Lazer, you did it right mate.
yes it was fabregas
laser how much time did it take for u to write that?
LAzer you already posted that and no humble pie from me.
good report LAzer, I would have liked to see a little Fran Merida action when Diaby came off but we were composed much better when Song slotted in!
Again,I slated him, but he is developing, unlike Diaby it’s a question of does he have the attributes if you know what i mean
I think it’s fair to say that ramsey isn’t ready for the first team yet
I thought Ramsey had a great game,
Stupid fucking international break.
can’t wait for denilson to come back.
Thanku thank u stonroy, gunner8. Too long SaVan, I was a bit gleeful lets just say.
Couldn’t resist the dig Geoff, and had to do a repost for the new post.
Evening all
Great 3 points in the positive.
Fine Post Pedro, especially the bit about the Hairdressers.
I agree with you on the mental side of constantly giving away goals in the latter stages of game. It must have an effect on the players as it is happening in almost every game
I know some people say we are moaning for moaning sake, but if we could just concentrate for the last ten mins, we would be perfect. I think it is down to lack of leadership in the last ten, and again yesterday, we are 4-0 up and Gallas and Vermaelen are in the opposition half spraying balls around and going up for Corners.
But hey we should put the negatives to one side and talk about what was again a clinical attacking performance.
Song changed the game for me. We had no shape at 0-0 but as soon as Diaby went off and Song took the holding role, Ramsey started to show how good he can become. I honestly saw more in him in that game than I have in either Diaby, Denilson or Eboue in the same role all season. Sure he made mistakes, but it was a rare start. the three aforementioned make those mistakes week in week out, but if we give him games, he will iron them out.
The attacking front five of RVP, Arshavin, Eduardo, Cesc and Ramsey were superb. When you have that much talent on the field, it does not matter if one or two of them are off their game. And that was without Nic, Vela, Nasri, Rosicky, Merida, and Theo. Jesus, not even Chavski have that much depth as an attacking force.
Also thought Sagna had a good game, and Gallas and Vermaelen continue to build a strong relationship.
So another 3 points, another 4 goals and +3 on the Goal Difference.
Do I think we will win the PL. Not Sure
Do I think we can. Yes, but it depends on a few things. Firstly how we cope with a bad result. we are on a fine run at the moment, but at some point we will have a stinker and drop points. It is how we get back to winning.
Secondly it is how do you solve a problem like Song at the ANC. We must must buy in Jan. We simply dont have anyone that can play that role. And the player needs to come in on Jan 1st not the 31st. I would like Vieira, sure he is not the same player, but he knows Arsenal, he is still better than most options and I really think he could do a job for us.
Well Done Arsenal.
morning y’all
great compact post Pedders, thanks…
LAzer, great job – can’t speak for anyone else, but my point was that the side which was originally selected was grossly unbalanced with 3 attack minded midfielders, and it was there for everyone to see for the initial 25 minutes until Diaby was subbed: I just hope Wenger saw this as well and will do something to boost our defensive options or play someone like Senderos there(I think Sunderland or the next CL game would be the place to give it a go)…
not whining or anything, but like GM said yesterday ‘we don’t do clean sheets anymore, they’re so 90s’ – that is a worrying pattern, as we used to be the team to turn it on in the dying moments in order to score rather than concede – as far as I am concerned, the jury is out on this until we play some more serious opposition a few times…
i think playing ramsey as dm would be very criminal and better quality teams will punish us. he does not have that natural defensive sense. ramsey looked a little lost as DM imo. although he did improve when song came on but seemed a little nervous and was trying too hard to impress. but you can see the quality.
Is sour grapes worse than a dodgy vindaloo
and oh, I would be glad to see Rambo getting the nod ahead of Diaby if there was enough defensive cover in the first place (like there was after the introduction of Song) – I hope everyone starts to notice how important AS17 is for our game, he is easily the most improved player in our ranks, as compared to last season…
Namibian
Good point, but Ramsay needs/deserves to get the exposure. he won’t need as many games to “make it” like sonme players who now ply their trade in the middle.
i have observed something about arsenal. we seem to concede goals when everybody is back defending. most goals are from set pieces and thats when we have everyone back. does that mean more players defending lead to confusion and eventually conceding? or the players don’t know their defensive duties? just a thought. what do you think about this?
knowing AW he will play Denilson there in Song’s absence – I just hope he will make me eat the humble pie with his great awareness and positioning his fans are talking about and compensate for the lack of strength Song has: I could not be happier if this is the case
ramsey did OKAY. his attacking play was good but he needs to work on defence. he is a little too inexperienced and at the moment, we can only play ramsey when song is playing. our back four will be exposed far too much if we have denilson or diaby or merida alongside ramsey.
I was disappointed to see the headline that Wenger will quit if Usmanov takes over the club but then I looked closer and saw that it was violent thug and ex-convict Rob Shepherd who had provided the piece. I won’t dignify it by saying he wrote it because Shepherd is rarely sober enough to actually operate a keyboard. Suffice it to say the words Rob and Shepherd were quite enough to convince me as to its relevance.
I get it GG9, really did think we’d win it, two matches lost by 4 runs. The guys just don’t have the mental toughness. Who cares about cricket after a fantastic Arsenal win!
Pedro the post is well eh… different.
We have now played 19 games this season, let’s look at how the results were in all the other seasons after 19 games with Wenger in charge:
1996/1997: 19 9 5 5 39-25 32
1997/1998: 19 9 7 3 36-20 34
1998/1999: 19 9 7 3 24-17 34
1999/2000: 19 11 3 5 30-21 36
2000/2001: 19 12 4 3 35-20 40
2001/2002: 19 9 5 5 38-23 32
2002/2003: 19 12 2 5 39-20 38
2003/2004: 19 11 6 2 32-17 39
2004/2005: 19 12 6 1 45-20 42
2005/2006: 19 13 2 4 33-14 41
2006/2007: 19 12 4 3 31- 9 40
2007/2008: 19 15 4 0 45- 9 49
2008/2009: 19 12 4 3 47-16 40
2009/2010: 19 15 2 2 55-20 47
I’m very optimistic about this season, just think about the fact that we have 9 players on the injury list at the moment (Walcott, Denìlson, Djourou, Fabianski, Vela, Traoré, Diaby, Wilshere & Bendtner) and still things are going very well…
My only worry is (and i never thought i’d say this) when Song goes to the African Nations Cup we will miss him…
I hope Wenger has a back-up (in the January transfer window) to cover up for Song when he’s gone…
We might have Denìlson back by then but he is not half as good as Song in my opinion…
Ray could you do some research and tell us what the highest goals conceded that have won the PL are?
and yes, Song conceded a corner which led to their goal, but I can’t blame him really – it was just a hopeful cross and he stopped it reaching the danger area like he should, apart from that he did not put the foot wrong – I hope Wenger will ret him against Sunderland, otherwise Chavs will fuck us over without him in the side, should he pick up another yellow: again, Senderos in DM v Black Cats, anyone?
we really should start preparing coquelin or eastmond for first team action very very soon. i am thinking coquelin or eastmond is a better way defensive midfielder than any of ramsey, denilson and diaby.
*rest him
gnarleygeorge9 you right ramsey needs exposure and he wont take too long to get into the mix but he is not a defensive player. he should be playing in the Diaby role supporting the DM.
See your point about the balance Suga. I felt Wenger went with that mid cause he felt Wolves may be doing some bus parking and it would be a good way to get Ramsey a run out and Song some rest. I guess it turned out alright but perhaps we will never know if it was or wasn’t great team selection.
Thing is its hard to even define the roles of the two mids after the DM. If Arsene says he plays 4-1-4-1 then am assuming the two behind the striker in mid are CMs (Cesc and whoever) yet often you see one of them sit back and let Cesc do the quarterbacking.
I guess the main thing is we swap and interchange roles so much the only real defined position in the front six is the CF and DM and without Song we don’t really have a backup. If their is a glaring weakness in the squad it is there and then at back up CB and GK maybe. All points all of us have been making for eons at the Grove.
Mayank it was a great Arsenal win, now that is something I do get up @ 4.25am to watch. Chamoneeeeeee!!!
I really think The Arsenal is a chance to win the Big One.
1999/00 Season
Mun Utd – GF-97 GA-45
Arse – GF-73 GA-43
Arsenal have won it with GA-37 in the 02 double season.
I am fine with the mids interchanging positions in the middle 3, LAzer, all I am saying is that if we try to play 3 attack minded ones it will surely result in errors, as this is some serious square peg shit
none of the 3 originally selected could not do the job Song did – asking Cesc to do the job there is just poor allocation of assets given his form upfront IMO…
Luckily the match was on at 11pm for me. The CL matches kill me though 1.15am kickoff!
But this season i wouldn’t miss a minute of any game.
If i’m not mistaken the African Nations Cup is played duril of january and the fixtures during january is:
2/1 F.A. Cup (3rd round)
6/1 League Cup Semi-final 1st leg
9/1 Everton (h) Premier League
16/1 Bolton (a) Premier League
20/1 League Cup Semi-final 2nd leg
23/1 F.A. Cup (4th round)
27/1 Aston Villa (a) Premier League
30/1 Manchester United(h) Premier League
and if Cameroon goes all the way to the final (which i think is played in the beginning of february)
6/2 Chelsea (a) Premier League
13/2 Liverpool (h) Premier League
Does someone know exactly which dates the African Nations Cup is played???
Cause the end of january and the beginning of february is te most important fixtures this season when we meet United, Chelsea & Liverpool within 2 weeks time…
Only consolation is that Chelsea will be without Drogba, Essien & Kalou…
Let’s hope Cameroon will be knocked out in the group stages and that the Ivory Coast will go to the final (i know Eboué is Ivorian but we can survive without him i think)…
Morning all..
Really good performance yesterday…
Eduardo RVP Arshavin
Fab…
That is an excellent strikeforce..
When does Song leave for the ANC.. i think sometime in december?
a few words on Rambo – I think fella is hungry and wants to make the most of the scarce opportunities to impress and is trying to emulate Cesc a bit too much: one could see that in the AZ game, he tried to do some explosive stuff rather than keep it simple with the game in the bag already…
anyway, great game after we shook them off after the initial 25 minutes – thing is we need to click into gear immediately after kick off, as a better side would surely punish us…
Fair point Sug.
Did anyone see the press conferance after AZ where the reporter asked Arsene in the end that Song has come on really well but he will leave for ACN.
Arsene just had a wry smile and said yeah it is unfortunate he has to leave.
Who knows what the hell that means but to me it seems he is currently working on a plan B. I hope Ramsey or Nasri are not his plan B’s, we know for sure Diaby isn’t.
Ivory Coast vs Ghana to be in the final, let’s all hope for that!
morning choy, que pasa?
ACN starts 10 jan and ends 31 jan. so song will have to be released at least two weeks for the start of the tournament so we looking at around christmas for the last day of song.
ACN starts 10 jan and ends 31 jan. so song will have to be released at least two weeks *before for the start of the tournament so we looking at around Christmas for the last day of song. if Cameroon does not reach the final he should be back for man utd.provided he is fit.
Eduardo didnt even appeal for penalty when he was taken down in box,which was clearly a penalty, it tells all about how tough mental state he is going through.
and how on earth the second goal was not awarded to him,i think that was harsh on him.
RE: selecting the team on assumption the Wolves will park the bus
even if this was McCarthy’s plan in the first place, he must have told them to attack seeing the selection that left our back four exposed and vulnerable…
one more thing – Vermaelen is a beast and even introduced some martial arts elements into his game
*that Wolves will park the bus
The only good thing about this break is that we wll have walcott and vela back
Morning guys
Great win ystdy. If we keep winning teams we should win then we in with a shout.
Its still early days but we should definitely try to stop conceding stupid late goals even if they so far apart from westham and az have not had any bearing on the result
It is unlikely that we wld average 3 goals a game until season end. Winning with slim margins is very important and is tge diff btw 3 points and 1 point so many times.
Manu’s ability to defend last season was very important in their race to da title. Remember their crazy sequence of 1-0 victories????
I believe also that we should begin to give gallas and verm a rest. If they play every week they wld burn out. Remember denilson, gallas and clichy last season
We cld try gallas and senderos against sunderland then gallas verm against chavs and probably rest gallas in the next home game. The reverse might be better cos france have two crucial qualifiers in the next 2 weeks
Wenger has already said that he wouldn’t like to rotate the CB’s too much.Gallas is 32.We should rotate a bit.Atleast in some of the home games
Man U played Rio Vidic for the full season even some CC matches. CDs shouldn’t burn out.
We played better once Diaby went off
One could today make it an all-Chelsea day. Buy some stolen dog food from John Terry’s mum, a gram of coke from his dad and then sit back and watch John himself kick the shit out of Rooney this afternoon. You have to admit, it does have a certain balance to it.
This habit of conceding in every match will cost us dear in the big matches.
Imagine us being 1-0(agg) up at the Emirates against the likes of Chavs / Barca and then conceding in the dying minutes. Very probable , imo.
In the BIG matches , we will continue to struggle , until we value clean sheets as much as goals.
I am yet to be convinced. The Chav match will show us where we exactly are in terms of being a genuine threat.
A friend of a friend told me the reason why woolies went bust?
Jon Terrys mum used to shop there, but keep it quite though!!
Did anyone hear the disgusting commentary on ESPN about Eduardo and that penalty incident.
One said it is not the first time he has been on the floor this season
Joe Royle said, well it is the quickest he has got up.
Knob replied so do you think he has learnt his lesson.
Joe Royle said, well I hope so.
What Fucking Lesson. It was proved that Eduardo did not dive. Fucking Wankers.
Then Royle came out with a classic towards the end. It was on their freekick which struck an Arsenal Player and it looked like a ball to hand.
Royle said he did not think it was a Penalty as it was more of an Elbow than an Arm.
His Other classic was as the 2nd half started, they were showing replays of Wolves Chances in the early part of the Game. Royle said they got the chances as we were missing the height of Diaby as he had gone off injured……..Yet he was playing and in view on all of the replays. Bring back Shitanta
haha , reg.
Shoplift , you mean !
The Verminator ducked out of the challange for wolves goal as he expected any decent GK would have claimed the ball within the 6 yard area!!! enuff said!!
u are kidding , pat !
Tell me you are kidding !
rosicky
gallas
senderos
fish head
merida
eboue?
are all these players out of contract in the summer? that would be 3 out of the 4 centre backs at the club!
Agree PTG
The commentators were so biased that it was embarrising as some said earlier they made andy gray sound like he knew what he was talking about,what that cunt knows about football you can write on the back of a stamp!!!
Cb don’t burn out how funny? Go find out hw many games utd were without ferdinand last season and alsi find out hw many games evans and o’shea played as cb last season? Why do u think injuries are more common in the 2nd half of the season? If u said gk don’t burn out I wld hear u
In case u don’t know mayank no.1 cause of non-impact injuries is wear n tear as a result of fatigue
Another classic was whenjoe royle said about the third goal that wolves never had any luck as the ball clearly hit the ref in the build up!! what a tosspot!!
Kingsley ,
Gallas , TR7 and Merida will pen new contracts ; dont worry.
Right off down to the gym!!not for a work out,only to clean it!!
apparently we’ve had the fewest shots taken against us yet we still concede so many.a better goalkeeper would make a huge difference
And in case u haven’t noticed we are thinnest in nos in defence. To an extent we can cope with injuries in attack n midfield but not so in defence
Our cb options as unexcitable as they are are what we’ve got so if we lose gal or verm to injury silvestre or senderos wld definitely feature
Why wait until such a situation?
Give them confidence by showing u have faith in them. Rest a starter give the fringe a chance…….
I don’t want to alarm everyone but there is another break from footy this coming weekend
Agree with all your points Franchise. We are thin at CB for sure and it would be naive for us to believe TV and WG can carry on the entire season apart from the league cup. Sendy and Silvestre will HAVE to contribute and I fear in some big games. If the current tactics are already leaking goals then maybe we will have to change them with those two at the back.
Another glaring weakness is the DM spot. We are an injury away from a crisis. All of our injuries have currently happened where we have ample resources, dare I say even one is at a weak spot and a shitstorm will hit. We will lose are attacking capabilities as Wenger will have to change the tactics.
Nothing short of brilliance.If Mr.Wenger cant infer something from the way,our team played in the second half(or after the 25th minute),he should be blind, or nepotist.
Arindam
Afraid not, it was comical commentating,
The other thing I find funny today is that Man Shitty Fans are complaining about Adebaywhore. Mainly for his constant commenting on all things ARSENAL, and for his lazyiness and offsides.
Ha Ha.
Easy Fran,
I think Rio missed a few games due to injuries and so did Vidic but apart from CC match i don’t remember a match where they were rested.
Thinnest in defence? We have 2 reserve CBs, you might say they’re not good but we do have cover. If and of Gallas or Verm are rested i can assure you these 2 would replace them.
I wonder if JET will get some games in the DM role when he gets back from his loan….he supposedly has been getting rave reviews
JET is an AM, atleast that’s what i’ve heard.
On the dm issue we can get away with it against some teams if we give them enough to worry about defensively
I know we are a momentum team but we have to learn how to bounce back from bad results immediately. It has been a weakness of certain wenger arsenal sides
If u bounce back immediately from a bad result a crisis is avoided
Remember hw long it took us to recover from unbeaten run, how about eduardo n birmingham, or jan 09 draw crab fest
Lots of peeps are saying we are doing well despite a long injury list.
But maybe we are doing well BECAUSE of our injury list.
Denilson/Nik B/Diaby all gone!!!!!
Maybe it’s a bit cruel but this is business,
never personal.
We bounced back from the Manchester and WHU matches well.
hello suga3…
lol.. tony s that is kinda harsh!
i hope drogba brakes his leg today!
has anyone seen who the tramps chelsea have got when the african cup of nations is on, i’m sure its a fix..
TonyS thats could be true but i just can’t help thinking thats a strange way of looking at it.
You r hurting my ribs man.
pat.. that complaint sounds familiar
Thx for 2 good match reports this morn. I was there and had a brilliant day out.
First visit to Molineux and thought the Wolves supporters really good fun. Singing “lets pretend we’ve scored a goal” and jumping up and down when 4-0 down was briliant. Can’t imagine that at the whinging Emirates can you?
Almost glad they scored (well almost!).
Hid my colours and went to a Wolves pub post match where they were singing “One all in the second half”! Really hope they don’t go down. The best ever fast food too. Mr Tikka van selling freshly made Naan bread and chicken tikka – bloody lovely.
Looking forward to going back next season.
Cheers Wolves – your team were good too!
I am happy that AW failed yesterday with Diaby, as a DM. I hope he has learnt few lessons with that experiment. Diaby, get well, but never try too hard to play a role that doesn’t suit your natural instinct.
Three points won, well done lads!
Great win but against crap team. We still need a world class gk, a quality back up central defender and a quality cdm. Hopefully Diaby’s time is over. He is so crap.
Any news regadring diaby’s injury
Diaby would make a miraculous recovery to be selected for our match against Chelsea.FFS,for how long would we have to stand that retard.We were looking more fluid and potent, after he was replaced yesterday.
He is out for 3 weeks
Its a blessing in disguise(though its totally unfair from my part to have such a comment on an Arsenal player).But he’s had his chances,and doesnt deserve to be selected anymore.
Ramsey was impressive enough yesterday.Apart from maybe a couple of really sloppy passes he was fine.
Ray, your stats are about 19 games, yet we have only played 11 in the PL. Were they on 19 games all comps?
Must be all comps Zorro.11 PL,6 UCL(quailifiers),2 CC
Be interesting to break it sown to just the 11 league games!
Hull City V Stoke….
What an anti game of football that will be.
Yeah nisanth I was impressed with him, though starting him as the DM didn’t work, he was pulled all over the place, after Song came on we took control of the midfield and Ramsey moving into the Diaby role gave him freedom.
So what do we want today lads?
A draw?.. I’m hoping UTD get smashed!
it’s a possibility choy, but imo for our benefit we want utd to win or a draw, chelsea are much stronger than utd and more of a threat to us in my eyes, so anything to take points off them is the main thing.
Please please a Hull win today.
Also what about Bent’s dive…
Have to prefer a draw in manchels game or if a win then utd for me.
Good win yesterday! Interesting the rough-em-up tactics just don’t work on us anymore with Song in the middle there! Van Persie, Fabregas, Eduardo, Arshavin don’t keep the ball long enough to get tagged. However Diaby does hang onto the ball and sure enough he got injured!
Hopefully a draw.
Essien and Lampard red carded.
Drogba and Anelka injured.
Yeah.Ramsey can’t handle the DM role.But he should be ahead of diaby.Anyways i am hoping nasri would play in that position
Drogba and essien straight red.Would end up missing our games
yeah i agree nisanth, but i don’t see diaby being tried in that position anytime soon, if he would then i would’ve expected wenger would have had him there yesterday rather than playing him in his usual role and ramsey playing as the dm. I don’t want Nasri there though, I want him in the Diaby role, Nasri is too good going forward to play as a DM, and wouldn’t have the defensive instincts.
Denilson when he comes back though will be able to rotate with Song so we’ll actually have a bit of cover
I was referring to that role A.Just didn’t want to call it the ‘diaby role’.I think nasri will do really well in that position
Yeah I agree nisanth, expect he’ll start there against Sunderland with Diaby out
I hope he doesn’t start diaby against chelsea fearing chelsea’s strength in midfield.Essien will batter him.It will be a great match.Can’t wait for it.
I dunno nisanth, away from home i’d almost certainly start Diaby to compete with them physically, but at home I wouldn’t say he’ll definitely start, but I wouldn’t dread seeing his name on the team sheet
A what do you reckon we’ll do in Jan (you seem to get the squad predictions right)? Put Denilson there, take a chance with one of the kids or buy.
Is it just me or does anyone else think the verminator is like a modern day frank de boer? Strong in the tackle and has a eye for a good long distance pass
I would dread seeing his name there.We won’t be able to outmuscle chelsea.Not a single team in PlL who can do that.But the quality of our football can.
Vermaelen vs drogba would be one hell of a battle
Vermi seems to me like a great defender who’s also highly motivated to prove himself in the best league. Every time i see him play it seems he’s playing out of his skin. That’s why i like Wenger’s policy of buying kids, they seem to want prove themselves much more than say an established 28 yo.
I’d expect Denilson to just play there Mayank, though I wouldn’t rule out buying someone like Matuidi necessarily, but if we brought someone in they wouldn’t come straight into the side I’d doubt, so it wouldn’t be to play during the African Nations.
nisanth i expect drogba if he’s on form to destroy vermy, no defender in the world could compete with him
Maybe a loan move for a DM won’t be a bad idea.Someone who is not getting many chances at another club but is still good enough to do the job.Like flamini’s situation in milan.Someone like that
http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/11/08/1611768/arsene-wenger-threatening-to-quit-arsenal-over-takeover
I wouldn’t say he would destroy vermaelen.But it would definitely be his toughest test till now.Our CB’s will have to support each other really well
Great goal by etherington
Matuidi is a box to box kind of MFer he’d suit us in a 4-4-2 but not in the 4-3-3. But even i expect someone witha good reading of the game to be played there, though i fear Denilson might get bullied.
Very unlikely nisanth. With the African Nations being so early this year it doesn’t make any sense – anyone brought in would need at least 2-3 weeks to settle in, train with the team and make a couple of sub appearances, so even if they came in the second the window opened they wouldn’t be in a condition to start until the African Nations was basically over and Song was back. If Wenger was looking at Matuidi or someone like that anyways, or even Vieira, then I could see them coming in, but I don’t see any way he’d sign someone actually for the time Song is away. Denilson is a very good player and will probably be rotated with Song a bit when he’s back anyways so I’d expect him to just play
nisanth imo there isn’t a defender in the world who could deal with the top top players when they’re on form.
Ah ok Mayank, maybe not then regarding Matuidi, but someone like that.
I’m not sure Denilson would get bullied, he obviously doesn’t have the physicality that Song does, but Diaby will just play a bit deeper.
What if song gets injured A?Denilon is a talented play but he struglles a nit because of his lack of strength and pace.I hope we sign a new DM.Not just for African nations but to add a bit of depth as well
diaby can fill that role of DM. he needs to concentrate on defending a bit and learn how to play it dirty imo.
i’d like to see eastmond too.
I wouldn’t say he struggles at all nisanth, he was impressive imo last season, and is a good player, but as a team we lack physicality when Song isn’t playing. I agree though, I wouldn’t mind a new DM coming in to add depth at all. I suspect that Wenger is trying out Ramsey, and having Eastmond training and travelling with the first team squad to see whether they could offer depth in case of an injury, and if he decides that they aren’t up to it someone new could come in.
what do u think of getting D. de ROSSI and solve the case lol.
i bet that would please everyone here!
Denilson has been criticised a lot for a good few of his performances but we also have to appriciate the fact that most of his bad performances came in a hugely depleted MF of Nasri Eboue and Diaby. How he’ll fare in the current system is anyone’s guess and Wenger’s decision. I still think Sendy could do well there, don’t know how quickly he releases the ball though.
I honestly didn’t think Diaby was that bad yesterday while he was on. He misplaced one pass that I counted while rewatching the match. That’s pretty much exactly the same as everyone else in the first period where Wolves worked their socks off to get tight and stop our passing game.
That said Song coming on did make the difference, not because it removed Diaby, but because Song just sits in that position ahead of the back 4 and will nearly always make himself available for a simple pass while a lot of other Arsenal players get into good attacking positions but if the passer is closed down too quickly those passes aren’t on.
Jaguar, I honestly find your attitude towards Diaby a bit disturbing. Others have issues with certain players but you have a real nasty streak in some of your comments.
senderos would be awefull as a DM imo
gooby i don’t believe diaby can. In an emergency at home against a weak team perhaps, but he doesn’t have it mentally to play there properly. It’s instinct, same with Nasri and Ramsey, there are situations where some space comes free, or someone comes in for a tackle and they’ll side step them and drive into the space, and then if we lose the ball they’re caught out of position. Instinctively imo players seem to have an offensive or defensive mindset, and having players who are instinctively offensive as a DM will always create situations that can cost you
I wouldn’t want to take a gamble with senderos.This could be our year.We should avoid taking risks like that.Even though some don’t really rate him as a backup CB i don’t mind senderos
Mr. Arsenal says :
“I desperately want to win the Premier League and the Champions League with Arsenal and I truly believe that’s possible.
“But… I get the chance to play with the likes of Fabregas, Arshavin, Eduardo, Walcott, Nasri and Rosicky – great players who play a beautiful game.
“Then I watch some teams on TV and think: ‘Oh my God, this is so ugly!’
“That helps me realise how special it is to be at a club like this. I want to win it all with Arsenal.”
Mayank I agree, against good or very physical opposition I wouldn’t be against Senderos playing there. He certainly wouldn’t be great on the ball but as long as the others made themselves available so he could give it simply he’d do the defensive work very well sitting and breaking up the play.
Vieira in this setup will be a disaster.
He’s too off the pace to cut it with us now.
A , thats a joke mate.
Senderos is the last person I’d play there.
IF at all pressed , Nasri can play there. Even Eboue.
I’d much rather Senderos than Nasri Arindam, neither are ideal, but it’s better to have someone who’s more defensive than would be ideal than more offensive, and senderos would give us real physicality there that Song does. I’d stick in Eastmond rather than have Nasri play there. Eboue I’m not sure about, he did have one really good game in central midfield last season.
yep A i know it is a mental problem with diaby.
but we’ve seen wenger creating from a left winger the best forward in the game.
switching a DM to a DC(djourou)….
maybee diaby can, i hope.
You gotta love RvP. All our players do have a deep respect for the game we play. Every comment Fab has been about trophies and while that shows commitment and desire it’s a bit like Arsh and tax.
good morning grovers !!!
cuppa mocha ???
Yeah gooby, but imo a player has primarily offensive or defensive instincts, and that’s innate, not something that can be changed. Just changing the position from one primarily offensive position to another as with Henry, or from one primarily defensive position to another is doable. Changing from an offensive to a defensive position isn’t imo.
true Mayank…sometimes i feel RvP is the next Mr. Arsenal after Tony Adams
we ll see what wenger’s plan for abou. but i still prefer he gets de rossi insteed lol
Arindam,
I’d have to disagree regarding Vieira, I think he could cut it as we’d be wanting a defensive midfielder to sit in front of the back 4, do the simple things and not get out-muscled. I think he would offer a lot less going forward that Song would, who does do some good work supporting attacks and generally gets around the pitch, but for someone to step in and cover that defensive midfielder role I think vieira would be fantastic.
He could play it like gilberto used to just using his experience to cover the space and offer a simple out when a more elaborate pass isn’t on. He’d also be bang on the money regarding what we need, ie experienced enough to do the job well but not going to be around for a long time and thus interfere with Song and the generation below becoming the players we hope they can become.
That said, i’d still be surprised if he came, it just doesn’t seem like a Wenger thing to do. I think we might see Eastmond getting some more games in the cups and in the remaining champions league group games.
Really need hull to equalize. Im desperate for the orange one to be around for our game…
Senderos as a DM would be an absolute disaster.
If we find ourselves that short of options we should just splash some cash on a top class DM.
diaby reminds me of this song :
fabregas has gone from being a tenas kiuatan to stone kiuatan
Why don’t we try a war dance like this before the game starts? Would scare the crap out of the other team..
Was just flicking through some Man City forums to see if they’re pissed off with Adebayor yet and I came across this thread. Check out the stupid fan who thinks Wilshere plays for them!
http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=146880
It’s an interesting thread topic though, what are your thoughts?
hahaha shitty fans are so stupid
hahaha
the blue moaners even got him a song
Adebayor
Adebayor
Fucking lazy bastard
When will the **** score?
United want Hazard.
I really think Vieira is the answer in Jan.
I doubt we will spend money in Jan, and It would not surprise me if the player Arsene wants is not available until the Summer
So if we can get a player, it needs to be a stop gap. Vieira is perfect, he knows the club and Wenger and could slot straight in.
He is the best option that is realistically available to us.
And despite not being the Invicibles Vieira, he can still do a job in the PL. At least it gives us the abililty to rest Song and rotate with him, and gives us back up if Song gets suspended or injured. His Leadership is something worth having too.
And his value off the field will be priceless. He can bring through Eastmond and Coquelin and eventually join the coaching staff.
After all we brought in Silvestre so why not Vieira.
And how good is it, that we are in a situation where the result of todays game is a positive no matter what it is.
These games last season had little or no bearing on our season.
Given that, I am hoping for a Man Ure win. I think Chavski are stronger and want them unsettled.
A few suspensions would be nice too.
Went to the Manc blog, seems like they think the only realistic trophy for them is CC. They’ll really be going for it. Seeing it is in Eastlands I fear we might not be able to fight their motivation with only the kids,.
United put Vidic on bench???
WHY?
kick off
Every team in the prem had a poppy sewn on their shirts except manu. Old whisky nose isn’t even wearing one.
wes and evans are well set to suffer this afternoon
thought it was a penalty
Not that i want united to score.But hw the fuck does terry keep getting away with it
i want drogba,lampard,essien,anelka red carded…
Yawwn.. How do their fans sit through this shower of shit?
Big bad Manchester United is parking the bus against Chelsea…
They are pathetic.
I really hope Manure wins nothing this season if that team wins something….its a disgrace to football..
Manure is using relegation team tactics…
Manchester unITED make me want to vomit.
how did the ref miss on the corner here? lucky wes or manu rules?
Sendimoff
atleast wigan played better than manure against chelshit…
manure are scared to play..no confidence…
Does anyone have a good stream for the Chelski- ManU game??
stupid chelsea biased refreeing
Manure is really killing this game….they just want to nick 1 and then continue to shut up shop….
Manure dont deserve anything this year…
old man is mad
norwegian DB10-chanel 69850 on sopcast
Fucking commentators praising Wayne Rooney for no reason….
http://pwood33.wordpress.com/wp-content/themes/wptouch/core/core-images/comment-ajax-loader.gif
This game is as shit as the Boxing was last night.
loads of Sloppy play, we should not fear these cunts the way we are playing.
Its like watching blackburn vs bolton.That would have been more interesting i think
it is a boring game.
chelski is unproductive, and man und are same shit.
the mancs are counting on deflect shots to win it i guess. And btw i still don’t see why they bought valencia he is a pitty
I’ll be more than happy for it to finish 0-0.
Thanks Gooby!
What we r seeing in Chav vs man ure is a game muscles, who is the tallest & 100mph aggression? No technique, intelligence [apart from the shrek turn] or vision.
Great result last night and a fun day out in the wilds of the Black country!
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz…. chavs vs United Soooo dull, so boring, so over hyped.
@ ManG, u went to the match yesterday?
SG;
Yeah. Thought Id go as I didnt know when we’d have the chance to play there again?
listening to the match on the radio and I’ve just woken up after drifting off, my god it’s dull.
One notable moment in the build up when Alan Green started saying something interesting about Rooney not being that good at certain things, one of his fellow pundits pulled him up on it and he back tracked to the standard BBC line of how good Rooney is at everything and he shit’s pure gold – depressing.
shits not shit’s (although it seems odd to discuss grammatical errors when discussing faeces)
The drogba that plays against us is a lot different.He doesn’t really look interested
Valencia is pretty average, IMO. And he cost how much?
More than Arshavin!
How the hell did Chelsea beat us last year? We must have been so very poor defensively!! The team have no ideas going foward. Perhaps they should bring Joe cole and take out Deco?
Notice how Alex goes defensive anytime he plays in London. Only one striker Rooney and he will bring in Berba sometime to try and attack especially if he conceeds first.
@ nishanth, bcuz him & fatty Lampard r playing against men of their own size right now thus ineffective.
Chelsea should take ballack off and bring on cole
erm, I think there’s a bit more to it than size fella. That is way too simplistic. Perhaps the formations are negating each other? Perhaps a bit of fatigue?
And maybe they are all cunts?
^^ in London against Arsenal and Chelsea, not Spurs!
Pedro;
You mentioned that maybe conceding late goals would become in the playters mindset… I agree.
They will automatically switch of late in games a concede a last gasp goal….. when we are 4-0 up!
valencia was a 17-18M£ i think
it was a decent shot by rooney here
Chelsea have been really poor till now.United might nick this one
Flying karate kick there!
I hope he is injured
gooby;
Yeah and more than Arshavin mate…
Can anyone work out why Man Utd are doing better all of a sudden? Never could work that out about them, they play poorly then suddenly it clicks and they start playing well even though nothing seems to have changed.
A few broken ribs nish…
@ ManG, 50-50 duels tend to get won by bigger players most of the time. Thus if you win the ball counter- attacks are on plus total height for chelsea and man ure are pretty similar thus they cancelling out each other but against us they are quite bigger around the park.
wtf??? evans will get a ban for that, it was dangerous
bugger
shit
Lets see see how sir reacts. this is the type of goal you will see in this scrappy match.
@ AndAPrayer, they r playing more combinations thru the middle before switching the ball to the flanks thus Chavs r struggling to cover positioning for crosses or positioning for combinations. Very similar to our game against Spuds, they stopped the combinations well but switched play to the flanks & Spuds couldnt cover the crosses
I don’t care what anyone says….that play acting cunt Drogba was interfering there!!
oh well, hopefully it will turn into a sending off-fest and we’ll beat them when we play.
Come on the red cards!!
AndAPrayer – exactly!
damn
Supergunner, ta – you just don’t get that kind of info from the radio – in fact given the quality of the commentators you don’t get much info of any sort from the radio.
fight fight
come on give drogba, terry and essien reds
whatever d result…without ronaldo,tevez…..manure r surely playing like cowards …LOL…
Drogba got a yellow for taking studs in his chest…
What a horrible referee…..
Evans is a young thug in the making…
hmmm match of the day 2 or Die Hard 4 – not sure what to watch this evening.
Its fucking pathetic.
balls to manure,
balls to chelshit…
time and again..stupid refreeing at chelshit
oh no drogba off he is not getting red
fucking useless valencia
Is someone brushing their teeth in the stands
I need a draw and a possible red, but Drogba is preserved now!! Is owen the right guy?
agree nishanth
Imagine our players going and screaming at the ref like that.THey would all get sent off
common cowardly manure..get a lucky goal up ur ass…and get us a draw
Two thoroughly disgusting teams on display here, Evans should be off, Atkinson is fucking shit, should have been loads of cards here.
Can’t fucking believe we got 6 at Old Trafford when you get games like this.
nishanth Says:
November 8, 2009 at 17:42
fight fight
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Go on son, lol.
I swear Alan Green would offer his daughter to Rooney and if that didn’t work he’d ask if Rooney would consider a bit of manlove with him.
Are there anymore disrespectful teams in the country than these 2 sets of scum?? Every time someone gets fouled the ref has a 22 men screaming in his face and calling him a fucking twat or something of the sort!!
maybe manure getting what dey deserved…for playing like cowards…but again..
common cowardly manure..get a lucky goal up ur ass…and get us a draw
come on lampard get injured
blood stupid refrees…my blood Boils to see such bloody shit bias refreeing…against us
Fletcher can foul whenever he wants
manure r getting close
free header for evans over d bar..3 more mins left
fletcher what a cunt
On the plus side I’m now certain we can rip the chav’s defence apart!!
Great play by rooney
the ref will give 7 min here i bet
tony it was proved by wigan
well that’s a shame but oh well, allows us to open up over man utd
chelsea are good at seeing off a game at 1-0. We need to learn from this
we stay ahead of manure..and stay at 2nd with game in hand
Draw would have been nice but never too bad seeing either of those cunts lose. Fuck Chelsea by the way, they were shit today, they will lose games.
WTF i’ve been trying to make a post from the shit game started.
Finally………Anyway what a poorly officiated game. They go 5 points clear now so lets kick their ass at the emirates.
Plus how the hell did we manage to lose to the mancs? The nnumpnuts are SOOOOOOOOOOO average.
I think the only time i was awake during that match was when there was about to be a fight. Chelsea played shit but they’re looking very dangerous.
chelski’s goal is smthg they sould be ashmed of. i hate teams that gets 3 points by scoring that way.
VALENCIA IS SHIT! it’s funny to see him play
Chelsea won in the end and that is what matter.They don’t give fuck about how they win.They can be beaten though.We have a great chance of beating them
It was funny to see Drogba get a yellow for getting hit by a spinning wheel kick.
zeus, we gave them an own goal and a penalty after dominating the game up to that point – think that pretty much covers the Manc loss.
Chelsea have to be the most self motivated team in the pl. It is very very difficult to beat a team like that.
why is everyone sucking Chelsea off on here?
They asked ferguson whether it was united’s best performance this season.Fucking retards
Wouldn’t watch either of them.If they were playing in my back garden i would close the curtains and turn the tv up
On the late goals deal: I am less concerned about us conceding a consolation goal in the 89th when we are 4-0 up then I am about our slow starts. We never really look good until we score a goal and then we look in utter control, but I fear that in a game like wolves with a tough crowd and tough team (not a very good technical one) that if they managed to get a goal and go ahead of us, we are left with a tough mountain to clime to get the three points. We could have easily conceded before we scored last night, but we got lucky.
Obviously a clean sheet is nice but I really dont worry when we are 4-0 up and we concede one in stoppage time. I worry about when we hit self-destruct mode ie, west ham and manchester united. We need to learn how to pick ourselves up again after some tough luck. I do trust this team when we are 1-0 up in the final minutes or so to close the game out. I think they will show they have some fight to them especailly with vermy but lets wait and see. I hope we beat chelski 2-1 and hold tight at the end.
Anyone notice Drogba cheating for their goal. Pulled Wes Orange to the ground and thats exactly where the ball went. Still, its Drogba so its ok.
Cheating prick.
We’re in second and the fact is, as long as we keep pace with Chelsea we are in with a chance. They won’t win every game from now until May. During the African Nations Cup is when they will be most vunerable.
So those that think today Chelsea winning changes the script, let me assure you it doesn’t, our consistency is what counts.
What a boring game between two dirty whingeing teams. They both cheat at every oppurtunity.
Fact is the only reason that Man U are even level with us is due to the refs. Man U on performance have been just a bit better than City this season. The Chavs always start well and have some tough games coming up. We have to win against them ’cause we’re so much better than them.
we beat last year at stamford bridge
won*
Now we have to wait till the 21st for football…I hate int’l breaks
not at all bothered about Chelsea coming to the Grove, if they play the way they did today they will get a beating.
really though everyone Id like to propose a question: What the f%$# are we going to do without song especially as we play some hard fixtures while he is away.
Chelsea are not all that, the media have gone all overboard as usual !!!
I say arsenal 2 Chelsea 1
Last night we were so vulnerable without song. Diaby comes off Song goes on, wolves dont have chances, we score three…
Did anyone see honest jon try to rob valencia of his shirt!!
The analysts on Super Sunday + are starting to give us some credit lol..
One of the them(not sure about his name) said he feels we will definitely be in the top 2, therefore any team that finishes above us will be champions…
we’ll have denilson back luke
Its all about End of January to February.
Jan 27 Aston Villa Away
Jan 31 Manyoo home
Feb 06 Chelsea away
Feb 09 Liverpool Home
A- do you really think Denilson can do the job Song is doing? Im skeptical
I want to see how Denilson plays in this new formation…..
IN the earlier games in the season he was playing where Diaby plays now….but I want to see how he does in Song’s role…
Hopefully he plays in the CC against Man City….that will be a good test on his return.. He should be back for that game…
luke;
You’re a pessimistic little soul aint ya!
Where were we soooo vulnerable yesterday? Please do not suggest bringing Song on changed everything?
Wolves started brightly and at an unsustainable pace, whereas Arsenal started like it was a training session. We weathered the storm and took control, while still in 2nd or 3rd gear…
What is it about peole needing to find something to fret and worry about?
I don’t get it…
Mangoon im freting and worrying about my kebab 45 min wait isnt on is it!!
Hahaha! No way reggie reg. That is scandalous mate! I’d be in pieces me self!
Have to say Sunderland worry me a lot. Reid and Bent are playing great for them and not many teams can go to the Lane and play like they did. The first 25 minutes will definitely be similar to Wolves. Sunderland is a good team and should have won yesterday
Hopefully Song doesn’t pick up a booking in that game, or else he misses the game against the Chavs
Yea Sunderland will be tricky…but they will be without Cattermole and Jones…..
I think we will be ok….but Wenger has to make up his mind on whether he will risk Song getting a yellow in that game…
Pat what would you do?
I think I would put Sendy in there as DM….or push Vermy forward and let Sendy play beside Gallas…
However most ppl have rebuffed me saying we should not break up the Gallas Vermy partnership….
I agree but sometimes we have to be flexible….like last season Barca had Yaya playing CB in the latter part of the season…
Yea it would have been ideal if he didnt have to but sometimes u just have to adjust…
WHy would we play Senderos at CDM when we haven’t even tried that yet in a competitive game. No way, thats too risky.
I’m worried about the rain Forests personally….Oh and who is gonna win Strictly Come Dancing…
Luke,
Denilson is a different player to Song but he does one thing very well that Song does as well and that’s continuously offer the simple option to a passer. Often our attacking players get into great positions but it is possible for the opposition to shut the options off.
Song will nearly always try to get level, maybe just behind the player with the ball (when we’re in possession) to offer a simple route out of trouble and shift the point from which we launch attacks. Denilson does this as well. Denilson isn’t so combative in the middle it’s true but he does somethings better and something worse. It’s not ideal to have Song going to the ACN but I believe that Denilson will be adequate cover if a little different.
At least that’s my thoughts on the matter.
Pat I would personally push Vermy forward….and then play Senderos at the back with Gallas..
I just think it is risky to play SOng and then lose him for Chelsea….
Wenger put Ramsey in the there against Wolves…but I feel Nasri would be better….
Its a pity Denilson is out still…
But he will be back for the hectic december period….
luke not the same job, but an adequate job in there whilst Song is away, different types of players but Denilson will break up the play and distribute simply as Song does.
Pat Bent has gone back to being shite again, last couple of games he’s been shocking, his goalscoring run has ended, hope I don’t get made to eat my words but I’m not worried about him at all. Reid isn’t someone we should be worried about either, and defensively they’re dodgy, I reckon we should be ok, just gotta hope players are fresh and fit after the internationals! If Mexico don’t have a game I wonder if Vela will play for the reserves on Thursday
Those four fixtures in a row that Luke posted are going to be really tough. At least two are at home.
Guessing if Denilson isn’t returning to full training until next week he won’t play in the reserve game, or did Wenger mean he’d be available from next week?
John Terrys family are pure scum aren’t they
A I feel Denilson can make his comeback against Man city in the CC….
Or maybe Wenger wont want him to come back for a knock out type game…..if not I can see him coming back in for the Olympiakos game…which is the 9th of December….
Hopefully we would have beat Liege and sealed up first spot…
Against Olympiakos we could play a midfield of
…………………..Denilson…………………..
………Rasmey…………………….Merida……..
He could probably come on for 30 mins against Liege..
I doubt Wenger would play him against Chelsea having just come back…
AndAPrayer……………..Denilshit is never on the same par with Song he’s too flexible and lacks pace and agility i’d rather have a new DM brought in than playing Denilshit a has DM he’s better of as part of the midfield playing the Diaby role
And Ole ‘Paddy’ is not the answer 8-0
Team for Sunderland.
______Amunia_______
Sagna–Gallas-Vermy–Gibbs
_____Ramsey–Nasri________
_______Fabregas___________
Rosicky–RVP–Arshavin
Team for Standard Liege:
___________Mannone___________
Eboue–Senderos–Silvestre–Traore
_____Eastmond–Coquein__
__________Merida__________
Wilshere–Eduardo–Vela
We need to rest players for the Cheslea game and we are basically in the next round of CL so……
Has Nasri been called to replace Diaby?
Just curious….I hear he is out for 3 weeks..which means he wont play against Sunderland….
He would be back for Chelsea….
So if this is the case…it means Song will have to play against Sunderland….I just hope he doesnt need to make a wild tackle..
Against Sunderland we could play….
…………………….Song……………………
…….Cesc…………………………Nasri…….
Nasri should have a good rest as long he is not Diaby’a replacement for France…
Not play Song against Sunderland Samir?! We’d be murdered! Ramsey couldn’t cut it as a DM against Wolves, sunderland are much better. Swap Song for Ramsey though and I reckon you might be spot on as long as people don’t get injured on international duty.
Absolutely no way we’ll play our league cup team against Liege, we may rest some players, but no way the whole side. Maybe rest one of the centre backs, cesc, vp, arshavin, for senderos, ramsey, eduardo, vela/merida/wilshere, but I’d be surprised if the likes of Eastmond, Mannone and Coquelin started
I think after Denilson got injured this season, we missed him actually. He added more solidity to the team. Calling him Denilshit is very unfair and patently disagree with it!
Pires has just scored a nice goal…
Yeah possibly ja regarding den playing against city, could well be his first start, have to see if he’s in the squad for next week. If Song got booked against Sunderland then Denilson would play against Chelsea. Though perhaps if Denilson looks good in training, and he’ll be fresh as not off anywhere in international week he could start against Sunderland so Song could get a rest
I thought Ramsey did OK vs Wolves A. I don’t think the team as a whole started the game very slowly and tha is why, added with the urgnecy shown by the home side, we looked like we could get over run. However, we didn’t and ramsey did OK for me.
And
I am sure JT’s dad sold me sum shit charlie for £45, the robbing twat!
How do you know who jt’s dad his. His mum doesn’t
A;
I also think you are giving Sunderland too much respect. They can be very ropey. Not saying it’ll be easy, but I think we will have enough for them, whoever plays.
Well, that’s assuming we don’t lose any more players to injury…
One thing everybody have not been noticing around here is that Arshavin is slowly getting back to his last season form, he’s been involved more in play getting into scoring positions and he has started to blend more into our syle of play. i think the guy has been given too much sticks and now that he’s playing well and scoring goals he should get his deserved praises
There’s no need to call him denilshit. He is our player and he never complains to the press or anything.
has anybody got a link to the penalty claim from yesterday?
goonermichael;
What about Arse-shaving-shit?
ManGoonian its suicidal not playing song against Sunderland but i agree that he should be dropped he’s one card away from suspension and it’ll be very costly if he were to miss out on the Chavs game
Mang Ramsey had a good game, but when Ramsey was playing as a DM before Song came on, although he tried hard, he was pulled all over the place and out of position a lot of the time, and they totally bossed the midfield, we couldn’t get the ball back etc. When Song came on so he moved further forward into the Diaby role he was much more comfortable.
Watching the game looking specifically at Ramsey trying to be a DM it really didn’t work and he didn’t fulfil his defensive duties.
I’m not giving sunderland credit either – not particularly worried about them, but they’re a level above Wolves, and if their midfield overran us with Ramsey as DM then Sunderland’s would to a greater extent imo
I like Arshavin. I wish he’d just get on with it and keep his mouth shut sometimes.
ManGoonian Says:
November 8, 2009 at 20:42
What about Arse-shaving-shit?
classic
There is no fucking way Song will play against sunderland and not get carded he should really be dropped IMO
Yeah GM he mouths a lot doesn’t he? he’s really learning to keep his hole shut these days
Well if Deni could make an early comeback and play against Sunderland…that would be good..
Against Liege I expect a strong team…so that we can secure first place in the group with a win….
I would play…………..
……………………..Al……………………
Eboue……….Gallas/Senderos………..Vermy……..Gibbs
…………………….Denilson……………………..
….Ramsey……………………………..Nasri………
..Rosiky……………..Eddie…………………Vela….
Or start Cesc and pull him off at 60 min…..when the job is done…
A;
Maybe I wasn’t concentrating on ramsey as much as you did. And maybe, it looked differently at the game, but for me, he was not noticeably poor, perhaps he was guilty of trying too hard, trying to do everything?
But the whloe team were swanning around like it was a warm up session and none of them showed the same urgency as Wolves and that is why we loooked like we were getting over run.
QWhereas, even during this time, i was NEVER EVER worried about us winning the game.
Ja that’s the team I’d play too, though maybe stick in Merida or Wilshere for Rosicky keep him fresh for Chelsea and play him against Sunderland
Another Crazy jibber
Andrei Arshavin has played down Arsenal’s resounding victory over Wolves stating on his site that class showed in the end:
“I believe that today we can not say that Arsenal had a remarkable game. It’s just that the class of players in our team is much higher.
“We took advantage of those moments that we created on the counterattack. These attacks ended up as goals. In the second half we calmly brought the game to a victorious close”
He also revealed that the Arsenal players are always having a laugh when on the move but not at Gallas’s expense as he tends to sit alone on the team bus!
“William, our number ten- no one is allowed to sit next to him” he said
We wonder why.
Denilson is sposed to start full training in the 2nd week of the Interyawn break.
I Just Hope to god nothing happens to tv or gallas,even at that we would probably score more.
Yeah Mang it was just defensively that he was poor, or just not good, he was never in the right positions, didn’t have any discipline and he was desperate to do his job defensively but as you say he tried too hard and was just running for the ball whenever they came over the half way line leaving alot of space where he was meant to be and they exploited it.
I agree too – even though we were being overrun a bit even then I really wasn’t worried about us winning, our players were always going to be too good for wolves
Yeah Mang, which would be a week tomorrow, though Wenger’s actual phrasing was “he’s back in the second week of international duty” so maybe he’s already in full training and will just be considered for selection from then?! Prob not though
Hope you are right there A about Denilson.
If Wernger wanted to try ramsey in the holding role, must mean they have tried it in training and therefore AW must’ve seen enough to think Rmasey could do a job. I think given time he may fit that bill as well as his more offensive qualities. Trying in him in games like yestrday will hopefully mean we still win em and Ramsey gets to grips with the position…?
I mean, otherwise, he could’ve played Eastmond there?
i still think moaning is the answear. Players like diaby preform better if we moan about how crap he is. I mean the more grief we give the better they play right?
The 2 young players, Afobe & Aneke, asked to go to barca (allegedly) played for the Academy team on saturday. Does that mean they aint goin to Catalunya?
ManG, only Afofe went to Barca to check out the facilities, etc. Aneke wants to remain at Arsenal.
So, he actually went to barca then? I didn’t see that reported anywhere…
Have to say I didn’t think Ramsey was even poor defensively, as in he made a fair few tackles and broke up play quite well, it’s just that he doesn’t play the same way as Song or naturally take up the same positions as Song does and that unbalanced our midfield compare to its normal fluency.
That and the fact the Wolves worked just about as hard as anyone has all season to shut us down.
Young Guns was saying he was going, but i aint heard anything more on it. But if he did or didnt, he played for us Saturday, so does that mean he is staying put Pat?
AndAPrayer;
Yeah thats how I saw it. I think Wolves started like a train, at a tempo that they just could not keep up for long. And I imagine that was when they were hoping to get a goal then, but they didnt.
We started very slowly and Ramsey did OK for me, considering….
I don’t know Mang. Young Guns said he was going just to have a look around. Aneke was never going to go cause he wants to stay. I really hope we hang on to Afobe.
I really hope Sevilla win La Liga…
evening all
I would really consider playing Senderos in DM v Sunderland – my point is that he could do well with his good positioning, presence and heading ability…
if you consider that he would have Vermaelen & Gallas behind him he could do well, plus he is itching to play and would play out of his skin against players like Cana and no Jones…
Yeah, the both of them are top prospects fella…
* with Jones out
Suga3;
Hey mate!
I think he would have already been tried there by now though…
I dunno Mang – Wenger said he’s only just getting to his top condition.
I reckon Ramsey was tried out against Wolves to see whether he could provide cover there, before Wenger gets the cheque book out in January, and the likes of Senderos or Eastmond could get a go there before the turn of the year too.
Blimey, how far from the corner circle is this Sevilla dude taking the CKs from???
A;
You still think AW will sign a DM in January?
Wenger wanted to give Song a chance to improve his consistency by playing him week in week out – Senderos played DM in one of the preseason games and looked quite lively: thing is he wins 7 headers out of 10 (the remaining few may be sorted by TV) and has quite a tidy pass on him, both short and long, defo worth a shout…
Suga3;
Yeah, I forgot that Senderos was played a few times at DM, during pre-season…
I wouldn’t have a problem with him there for the Sunderland game. I just don’t see Wenger doing it now. You never know though…?
lisandro lopez just scored from a gr8 goal, go check it!
I like Sendy a lot, he has a lot of fight and is surprinigly quick for a big fella…
being part of THAT defence playing in the CL 2006 campaign must count for something as well
Man I reckon it’ll depend on whether he decides the likes of Ramsey/Senderos/Eastmond are capable of stepping in if Song and Denilson got injured
*surprisingly
%@#!&, my spelling is shit today
A;
Maybe he will? If the interest in melo was as strong as Fiorentina would have us believe, then Wenger really wanted a DM…
Eastmond did well vs Liverpool and ramsey, to some, did not… But I’d say it was too early to make a call on either of them…
with Cana playing we need a big lump to kick the ideas of kicking us to the fuck out of him too…
A,
out of these 5 you listed only Song & Senderos have enough presence to match the likes of Essien or even Cana for physicality IMO…
Cana hardly seemed intimidating when I have seen him man. I dont agree we need a big lump to nullify him. As long as all the players work hard, show commitment and keep their shape, we can turn em over. Even if Wenger played Vela in the DM role!
Mang I wouldn’t say that he REALLY wanted a DM, but was certainly open to signing one if someone he rated became available. I agree far too early to make a call about either of them, there’s a long time until January 31st anyways!
I agree SUGA3, but it isn’t about physicality imo, it’s a plus, but not a necessity. We don’t need or want someone to kick the fuck out of him in my eyes, we just need someone who’s going to be defensively disciplined and be in the right place at the right time, read the game well.
Fuck me, Huddlestone and jenas are in the England squad… Shit dam, that is desperate!
We should splash the cash and go for both Subotić and Inler.
They would tighten us up defensively also adding some height to the team.
just like Sendy does, A
he is a very intelligent player and cool reassurance of TV and Willy behind him would give him freedom to express himself the way Song does…
MG,
I know you don’t buy into theories of playing defensively minded players in the defensive positions, but without someone slightly bigger and more disciplined there we will get overrun like we were for some 20 minutes against Wolves – Wolves, for fuck’s sake…
and could help with corners too…
SUGA3 disciplined and defensive minded yet, not bigger though, that really isn’t a necessity…. Denilson will do well in that role when he’s back, though I still reckon someone could come in in jan
Against Sunderland I would put Senderos in there as DM actually.
Wenger could tell Nasri to stay back and give him a hand.
Once we are 1 or 2 up we will be in second gear and control the game from there.
Nasri could then go forward more and Sendy could do it himself!
Apparently, below are a couple of comments from a Citeh blog:
Quote – “Adebayor looked off the pace and lazy today. I hope those Arsenal fans weren’t right about him.”
Quote – “I was screaming at the screen today…Adebayor just didn’t want to move, it was infuriating!! I just wish he’d shut up, he talks in the media all week about Arsenal then performs like that again. He needs to get over Arsenal and focus on us.”
Hahahaha
I should have watched the Lyon vs Marseille game…
It ended 5-5….what a game that would have been to watch…would have been much better than watching
the Chelsea Manure game earlier….
I know the best result for us was a draw but I am kinda glad Chelsea won….because Manure dont deserve to be above us…even if we are a game behind…
They have got so many points they should not have already this season..
Lets review them….
1. Against us, at most they should have got 1 point, -2
2. Against City they should have got 1 point, -2
3. Against Sunderland they should have lost, -1
Manure should really be on 20 points right now…
They are no better than Man City….
We have our own destiny in our hands when we play Chelsea..
Suga3;
What is your problem? Why are you getting all tetchy?
When did I say I didnt want defensive minded players in there? Or do you think i was being serious when I said vela could play in the role???
Haaaaa Haaa.
That’s interesting stuff Gonnerman.
Ade will soon be sold off back to a crappy team. What a dumb bugger he really is…..
Goonermichael;
Good one fella!
We will most likely see a combination of Diaby/Denilson playing the holding role in Song’s absence. I think we’ll cope
Goonerman, sorry!
Arsene Knows
Even with a nominally testing injury list, they possess a greater depth of talent and they look better — tactically and in terms of team spirit — for the departure of Emmanuel Adebayor.
Van Persie’s maturing into the pivotal central striker in a 4-3-3 formation is clearly working. Possessing a more velvet touch than Adebayor, he keeps the inter-passing slick, while his movement off the ball brings the best from the offensive midfield players.
Missing Adebayor, then, one inquisitor asked? Wenger just smiled. He could afford to.
_________________________
Thats from the Times….
Boy have these fuckers have changed their tunes…
So, 3 points @ Sunderland is an absolute must, then 3 @ home next time round & The Arsenal go top. But still have to wait for internationals week to pass
Hahaha. that is too funny. So the City fans are onto him already?
Internationals week is a bigger scurge than swine flu
Bill into who? TT
If Alex Ferguson really said this…he is utterly pathetic and I hope Manure wins nothing more for atleast five years..
That fucker Sir Alex claimed that Manure dominated the game….He makes me sick
Ferguson stopped short of blaming Atkinson for his side’s defeat, which leaves them trailing leaders Chelsea by five points.
He said: “That goal should never have been allowed. We’ve dominated the game. We’ve had great chances to win the match, and that’s our fault.
“We had great opportunities to get to the edge of the box and some really good chances in and around the box, but we should be finishing it off. We’ve only ourselves to blame in that respect. But you do need a break – and we never got the break we needed.”
gg9, yeah mate
Ja_Gunner;
Well, you didnt expect Ferfie to be gracious in defeat did ya mate???
Ja
I don’t think the biggest bottle of single malt in the world will be able to dull SAF’s mood. Though he better save it for when The Arsenal win The Title. He’ll need it.
These fucking Manc are a piece of work aren’t they?
Ahead of today’s game I had several concerns about how we were going to get on. I was worried that we were going to get outpassed in midfield. I worried that Didier Drogba would have too much for our third and fourth choice central defenders. I was worried after the less than passionate display against Liverpool that our players would struggle again to get themselves up for a big game.
Foolishly, I didn’t take in to consideration the most important thing which would eventually lead to our downfall today.
The referee.”
I guess the 6 mins extra time they are so used to came back to bite them in the arse.
Do you guys think that the refs are giving decisions against Man Utd because Red Nose had such a strong go at wiley about his fitness?
jeez, MG, I am just pulling your leg, no need to get agitated – of course I could not imagine you thinking another midget in our midfield may be a good idea
zeus
I just think SAF has run outa will, players, money, luck, humility, etc, etc, etc
A,
size DOES matter in that position – I like Denilson but he is lightweight as fuck and – again – not enough in the defending department to really cut it there…
I was crying out for a monster and Song became one, but we need another one and playing Phil there would kill two birds with one stone – cover for Song as well as match fitness, focus and sense of purpose for Phil…
Suga3;
Yeah, pullin my leg, right, gotcha…Nice one… Whatever you say!
Gotta disagree SUGA, Denilson is lacking physically, but reads the game defensively much better than any other player in the squad, and provides protection for the back four, just in a different way to Song. As a unit if he played and Diaby didn’t we’d be a bit unbalanced with a lack of power against tough opposition but with Diaby in the team we’d be fine imo.
I guess thats the so called “winning mentality”
Blame the refs whenever you lose…
I wonder if Sir Alex saw the karate kick landed by Evans into Drogba’s chest…
Has he lost faith in referrees because of that as well?
He makes me sick…
The fucker was laughing and jumping up and down when the ref gave him 5 mins 30 secs to beat Man City when the oficial signalled for 4 mins..
Maybe Wenger should shop at Monsters R Us in January…
size matters in terms of balance overall for the midfield as a whole, but not just for a dm. Think about makalele, mascherano, it isn’t a necessity
Look @ Le Gaffer, hungry for trophys, keen to see his project through, says he wants to die @ The Arsenal, etc. Then you have SAF, looking like & carrying on like he is in the Autumn of his cycle. He knows his club is financially a ticking time bomb, his party is winding up. The big test now for him is when to go graciously, & not to go out like a miserable old fart as he seems to be.
The chelski boss Anchovie is a novice @ this cut & thrust league. He’s not managing a chess team like those boring comps, La Liga & Serie A.
perhaps he should, MG…
or perhaps not, having Senderos itching to play…
A,
Denilson and Diaby in the same midfield?
God. Help. Us. All.
I hope we can come back and beat Sunderland…..
And also I want Everton to to fuck up united at Old Toilet…..
yeah, but taking into the account the fact that Willy and TV are not the tallest and some of our attackers are lacking height as well, putting a bigger player rather than lightweight Denilson exposed by Diaby with his nonexistent defensive discipline…
not with the games played when Song is away
*…may be a better idea…
dang, I feel ‘challenged’ today
I am sooo glad you are letting it go and not goin on & on & on & on about the same thing fella!
MG
I hate when we have to go away from home when we return from Intern. duty. That game is a potential banana skin for us.
is there any stats-site that counts players offsides?
espnsoccernet
thx
who else thinks john terry is a dirty cheating bastard.
fuck me if i was utd fan i would be savage! he is the exact same as caragher, pretending to be clumsy…being english is a big leg up in the epl
i agree bk. terry always gets away when he deserves at least sending off
can’t find the togo twat offsides!
granted it wouldnt of bothered me so much only i wanted a draw or m u victory
fuck adebayor
and gooby they [the media]dont make a big deal about it unless its a foreingher like any fucking arsenal player. cunts the lot of them
RvP(Mr.Arsenal)–>11 games 51 shots, 19 on target
lazy togo twat–>8 games 16 shots, 9 on target
fuck ade ,he was never so interested in arsenal than he is this season
yeah bk, and i’ve noticed something this week end. everyone still talking about 5 points gap between the macs and the chavs and discussing there “two horse race”
the media didn’t see we are 2nd, so we are behind the leaders now
bk
Why did you want a Manure victory?
The best result was a draw….after that a Chelsea win…
Because we will have our chance to deal with Chelsea soon..
Those fucking dirty Mancs along with Sir Alex dont deserve to be above us in the table…even with a game in hand…they have been poor this year and should be on 20 points in my opinion…
I’ve gotta disagree Ja – for me it was a draw then utd win, the one result we didn’t want was a chelsea win. Chelsea are only 5 points ahead of Utd, but are much much stronger than them, Utd are poor this year. I expect Chelsea to be our big rival this year, much more so than utd, so any points off them would be a plus
ja i actually dont rate mu this at season all.any points taken from chealsea are points for us …garentuued.
and i really think we are going to win the leauge this season
spuds are 12 points away from the relagation zone there is still hope.
wehey we agree A
for once
draw or nuffin for me… Although having United below us is always good.
Fuck the chavs, they will fuck up along the way, most probably away from home…
And the thing is Manure is still benefitting from fear…did you see the way Balckburn lay down for them at Old trafford..while against us the same Balckburn side had a go at us and got 2 goals..
Bolton laid down for the first half…went 2-0 down then came out and almost drew 2-2 with manure…
If the small teams watched how Sunderland played against Manure they would see Manure are not what they used to be
well people, what do ye think? are we going to win it?
if we get to just after febuary there or there abouts its a handy run in.to be honest i cant wait to have another crack off the 2 mancesters
ha ha fergonson is like the boy who cried wolf
Sunderland I are gonna play hard against us because they are winless since the beachball incident…
I hear your guys point…but here is the thing… we can reign in Chelsea ourselves come the 29th….
Also I want Manure to lose as many points as possible now because I know the fuckers are gonna buy January….while Chelsea will lose 4 good players for the ACN and I doubt they will spend big in January…
We play Liverpool on February the 9th..After that we play no more “big” teams….
So if we can go on a winning streak we will probably win the league…
The biggest teams we play in the run in are Tottenham and Man City….
We just need to get through that horrid late January to February period without too many losses/draws
How the fuck did we get Villa, Chelsea, Manure and Liverpool all in a row?
well ja,do you think we need to hit the shops come christmas? we are a couple of injuries away from a crisis
thats football
couple of injuries to song and another to denilson and we’re in crisis bk, injuries to anywhere else and we’re fine! We’ve already had ridiculous injuries this season, and we’ve been ok!
you could say we win or lose the leauge in that run
Let’s take it one game at a time fellas!
ya A were over loaded going forward[not complaining] but no depth in defence/d midfeild
sorry mangoon but its hard not to get excited…great fucking team!you know what i mean
points wise a draw or Man utd win was far better than a chelsea win, had MU won they’d have been 3 points ahead of us, chelsea would have been 2 but we’d have a better goal difference than both and a game in hand – we win that then we would have gone top… of course given that MU didn’t win I may as well be saying that had we won everyone game this season we’d be top as it would be just as relevant.
On the DM thing, I think if Wenger gets anyone they’ll either be very old or very young, either way so as to be happy on the bench. Out of the 2 going very young doesn’t make too much sense, unless he has found someone special, as we have a few young players in that role who may as well get a chance if we’re going that route.
If he goes old then Paddy makes sense, loan for the rest of the season gets Paddy some playing time, covers us for Jan and both parties can walk away at the end. However, I doubt we’ll get anyone and Wenger has a plan, cunning or otherwise, up his sleeve.
hows flamini geting on ?id have him back in a shot,,,no ofensce song but your fucking off
bk,
ofensce? you been drinking? :p
I understand what you are saying AAP about wanting a United win, but for me, I would rather have them below us, so we just have 1 team to try and catch…
On the DM ting… I am not sure? I think signing a player would be a good thing, but am not sure that is what will happen…
Guys the Carling Cup fixtures are
Man City vs Arsenal
Manure vs Tottenham
Chelsea vs Blckburn
whats the fourth one? I forgot
Also of that lot I hope Us, Blackburn make it through….as for the Manure tottenham game..I prefer Manure to make it…..cuz atleast Alex mixes the team…..so we should be able to beat them
AndAPrayer if chelsea dont win th epl we will!
having paddy back would be brilliant for atmospere alone
if we were any team other than arsenal I’d be of the opinion that having the opportunity to go top and let them chase us would be best. However, given that it’s november and we always have a little wobble, going top and then losing it I think would be worse for us than staying in touching distance and then pushing after christmas.
man cant be bothered spelling…sorry
I realise that my last post seems contrary to my previous one but the latter was my opinion of what is best, the former is what in a sane would should be best.
Evening All
Thx for the post Pedro….great weekend…finally off nightshift here and back to normal…one or two cold beers and then off to bed..
in my opinion just let the other teams do what they may…the results doesnt affect us that much…lets just concentrate on playing well and winning….it will be the battle for London this year…and it will be tight …my guess we’ll beat chelski by 17 points in the end
….
damned we are soo much better than Brazil
tom
AndAPrayer????
yah?
we will have to be extra good against chelsea cause the ref will be with them.fuck its such an advantage having english internationals playing for you
I think its best Manure lost…because they have played Us, Chelsea, Liverpool, Tottenham, Man City …..those are the top teams in the table…
So that means they will have a relatively easy run soon….so ites best they lose some points from now…
Hopefully they drop more points against the less fancied teams…and not go on a 1-0 winning streak again…
It seems that way bk, can hope that a ref doesn’t play a big part in it but it might be an idea to not play eduardo as with the refs not giving anything for him and not giving anything, ever against Terry it’s likely that eddy will get fouled in the chelsea box and chelsea will get a penalty.
i just hate the way they fake falling over in front of attacking player[mr terry and carragher]and making out like its normal.cheats cheats cheats.and his mother is a shoplifter
thats probably why i still have time for diaby!!! that was a lovely kick in the face
anyone out there? I am scared of playing tough teams without song. We havnt seen Denilson play as the CDM this year as every game he played, he played next to song. If Song’s responsibility was put on Denilson in January when we have tough fixtures, I would be scared. I hate to say it but I think Wenger really needs to do everyone a favor in January and buy another CDM. It isnt even Denilson’s preferred position and Denilson is already out of favor with a lot of fans. I thought he was doing fine with song next to him but I cant see him being effective as the sole CDM.
and ps, I love Ramsey to death, he is one of our most promising players and is doing a fantastic job at the moment but it was clear the CDM is not his natural position against wolves…I would hate to see Nasri wasted as the holding midfielder as he has a so much attacking quality…
Luke
Manninger 1998 stood in for Seaman for a month, & got player of the month. Some one will step up for Song, because if the boys are in with a real chance, they will be that hyped up, everyone will want to cover for everyone. Well thats what I hope
Speaking of
the hot weather is finally here. I love the Premier League, coz the weather is so hot for it.
Edu for PV4, etc
Radford for George
Spose BR is on his honeymoon now
Ok, off out into the sunshine again. Hope all your heaters are working.
Sunderland away after the break will be very, very tough. They outplayed United at OT, played well against Liverpool, should have beaten Spurs.
I hope we’re up for that one, although Cana might want to prove a point. Something tells me we’re not leaving the Stadium of Light without injuries
I hope youre wrong Pat…but Cana is a mad man
Will Cattermole be out for the match against us?
Sunderland away would be a tough one.Chelsea have wolves at home after international break.Bastards!!
Cattermole won’t be available.Also jones is suspended
My team for Sunderland as long there are no injuries..
………………….Al………………………
Sagna………Gallas…………Vermy……….Gibbs
…………………Senderos?………………….
….Cesc…………………………….Nasri…..
..Rosiky…………..RVP………………..Arshy
Team for Liege
………………….Al……………………..
Eboue……….Senderos……….Vermy………gibbs
………………..Song………………………..
…Cesc/Ramsey…………………….Merida…….
..Nasri/ros………..Eddie……………..Vela….
We should rest some players against Liege so that they will be ready for Chelsea…
we do need to rest some players, specifically the Frenchies who will have a playoff and Arshavin as well. Dont think we have any other players playing competitive matches over the break.
What is the deal with our injuries over:
-Bendtner, Walcott, Wilshire, Vela, Denilson, Diaby, Clichy?
When are they projected to be fit again?
Most of those guys should be back by early december….so they will be available for a hectic December….
Clichy may come back later than the rest…
Such a bummer about Clichy. DIdnt he have that same back injury last year too when gibbs came in for us?
lets just pray Arshavin, Gallas, Nasri, dont get injured in the Int’l break.
sagna too…
Something tells me we will drop points at the stadium of light. Bruce is a good manager and most of their chaps won’t be playing twice in the week for stupid internationals. You know I hate to say this but someone is bound to pickup a nick now. Feel like I am being too pessimistic but I think its realistic to expect a slump coming…
Lazer: just gone through yesterday’s posts. Totally agree with what you said about comments on here during games. I have given up following comments on here during matches. Too negative. Every football ground has them. “Rocastle, youre a fucking wanker. Fuck off Rocastle. Gooooaaaaal. Rocky, Rocky, Rocky Rocky, Rocastle.” As for the, hope Diaby is injured bit!!!!!
Think yesterdays game shows that Chelsea are not that good. We are better now than when we played Utd, although I suspect they may go big in the transfer window.
Still, it will be down to “scoring more than them” for the rest of the season. Bodes well.
The game at the Stadium of Light will be a battle. We will need to go with 3 strikers and force havoc because they are shit at the back. We will need to keep a very close eye on Malbranque and Reid because they are the most dangerous Sunderland players. I’m sure Bruce will start in a 4-5-1 formation with Malbranque and Reid in supporting roles for Bent and a powerful midfield 3 with Cana in the middle and Henderson on one side with someone else on the other. Thankfully… Cattermole and Jones are out.
LAzer,
If all our best team players come back in one piece, it will not be impossible for us to win, May be difficult being away game and the game after International break. Sunderland also play with a degree of pace and leave spaces, they do not park the bus and rely on physical aspect totally.
Good news on Cattermole. He is the kind of player you want WITH you not AGAINST you (actually a player I thought would have been good for us). Anyhow, I rather liked the idea of having Rosicky around for a while longer without being clattered.
morning y’all…
Micky – have to disagree on Chelsea being ‘not that good’: fair enough, Manure played an understrength team there, but still were all over them, bar Rooney’s strike Cech hardly had any serious save to make…
good news is that their away record is worse than ours and Emirates has been a fortress so far…
anyone notice Kieran Gibbs really looks like Barack Obama
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That’s the second most positive thing you’ve ever said BBK.
why what was the first
It Was A Good Result Over The Weekend But Why Do We Always Have To Concead A Goal Even Against Wolves Who Were Never A Threat The Whole Match Still Manage To score.This Is Why I’m Afraid If We Meet A Team Like Chelsea Who Never Let In Stupid Goals Like Us,That’s It,We’re Done.Craddock Scored 2 Goals In Their Last Match,Surely Someone Should Have Known That And Picked Him Up.We Should Not Let This Happen Which Allows The Opponents To Put More Pressure On Us Like What Happened In The West Ham Game.