I wouldn’t ever admit to blowing anything, let alone singing about it, but that’s West Ham for you, today though they will be blowing something, their chances!
So having spent 17 years of my early life living a pitching wedge from the Boleyn you would expect me to know a few happy hammers would you not?
Well I do, but only one of them has a season ticket, and he only has that because his wife bought it for him, Hmmmm, I wonder how much that cost her, top buying sweetlips, you must really love him!
Anyway, so why am I an Arsenal fan growing up in the vipers nest eh? Well simple, I was born in Bethnal Green, which is E2 and two and a half miles from Arsenal, the Boleyn ground was 8 miles away in E6, which is really Essex, so my local team was the Arsenal.
We moved when I was 4 because the Krays were active and my mum didn’t want me growing up with that influence so we moved to East Ham, or the bear pit as I then called it, as it was far rougher than where I came from, then the Krays moved into East Ham and her plan backfired.
I used to go to West Ham, as in those day I looked after people’s cars going to the game, so for 90 minutes I had nothing to do until pay day, I was watching the West ham golden years though, and used to see Moore, Peters and Hurst, I also saw the Charlton’s, Law’s and the Best’s when they visited, I even remember watching Charlie George score the winner once, happy days!
Anyway onto today, how funny was that watching Sky Sports yesterday and seeing the spuds get hammered, so 1 point behind and 2 games in hand, it’s cringe making, yesterday they were going to win the league, today they will end up in 5th place, all we need is a draw.
I like West Ham, they are like the poor relation in the family that everyone likes, but you never go for a beer with them because you don’t want to be seen with them, I think we’ll stuff WHU today, why? Well one because we are better, and two because although Sol Campbell trains with us, he doesn’t play anymore!
The noises the boss has been making about the keeper situation makes me believe Almunia will be back today, shame for Mannone that, because now Fabianski’s fit, Mannone’s big chance has gone. Still Almunia should have a blinder if that’s the case. We’ll see.
We’ve been linked with a move for Georgian midfielder Zhano Ananidze, he is 5’6″ and if we are going to go for another short player I would prefer the winger Eden Hazard, but as it’s the 84th player we’ve been linked with in the last week, I’m taking no notice of it.
I do have a feeling he’ll surprise us all in the window, and because of the African exodus, I think he’ll buy a DM, my guess is it will be Inler or Matuidi.
Anyway, if the Mancs draw and we win it will be awesome, if the Mancs win, it will be awesome, and if the scousers win it will be awesome, see where I’m going with this?
I’m going 3-1 to us today, because it’s been a while since I’ve predicted a score and today I feel lucky punk, very lucky.
Sorry for the few that got stuck in moderation yesterday both Pedro and I were out, today however I’m mostly in, and will be glued to the TV from midday.
Have a happy domingo all and see you in the comments!
Le Grove is now smart phone compatible!
Pedro
Geoff
out my arse
So anyone read the post?
i gotta a feeling,upson will play brilliantly today
top 10?
yihhaa
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we’ll smash the hammers today!
winning today would be so great!
Geoff you must be 50 plus to have seen those players?
I watched the 1980 FA Cup loss to West Ham. I think we were sunk by a Trevor Brooking goal from memory, anyway, it was late, well early morning actually, so I hit the sack, quite sad. I turned on the radio & listened to the post match comments, & I remember the commentator mentioning how The Arsenal players went as a huddle & stood in front of the fans. Both players & fans stood in silence, as they paid homage to each other, drawing a sort of common strengh from a bloody awfull result. I never forgot that radio moment.
So lets hammer the shit out of these bastards, West Ham must always be beaten by The Arsenal, always
arsen is tracking georgian star zhano ananidze… hmm interesting….
geoff – interesting to read how you came to the arsenal – and i envy you for all those great players you were able to experience live on the pitch!
georgian, got any footage of him?
Let’s buy Dzeko
Morning Geoff!
Did you post forgetting it’s actually 0845?!
Top post, nice to get a bit of history first thing on a Sunday!
This game has a lot riding on it for me… my whole football team has season tickets at the hammers… a very big bragging rights game!
Come on you reds!
Herbert, I’ve still got your e-mail in waiting for a post
Hello
Pedro – do what you deem most serving the interest of Le Grove with that email and the response i got from the new guy
winning today would lift me up into orbit!
Gnarley you’re close, it was Brooking, I drove home that day and a bunch of fans were crossing the road in Barking, I went for them only to realise they were Arsenal fans, they really had a bad day!
Herbert, sometimes I do feel lucky, they were great players with shit balls on crap pitches, it would be interesting to see them play today.
Pedro, you need to read the last comments on yesterday’s post! It will then make sense.
I’ve got tomorrows post Geoff!
i am off – have a good game grovers
gg9,
he is very interesting boy, there are roumors that russian federation offered him 2 million fo playing in their national team, but after this he made his debut in first team , wearing number 11…
this is his first goal for senior team…
and this two is from reserve game..
Evening lads,well morning for u guys..nice post quick question i will be headin to uk in dec and i email early in year askin chances for liverpool away game and hull at home, just wondering how soon i be able to know bout tickets for these games if any chance?
So Geoff, if West Ham are the poor relation, chelsea are the new rich chav relation, spuds the mouthy idiot neighbour that never achieves anything, where does QPR fit into all this
Aussie morning, yes we can sort you out, email Pedro.
See you Herbert!
Bye Herbert see you in orbit, chamoneeeeeeeeee
Gnarley they are the club we send our up and comings to, the loanie club!
Morning All
Great post Geoff. Took me back to the old days when East London street urchins used to ‘look after your car’. My Dad always paid because if you didn’t your car would get trashed.
I have a special antipathy towards WHU caused by being attacked at Upton Pk. And the overt racism of the fans. Remember when they signed Clyde Best, and the Chicken Run booed him all the time, then the years that they threw bananas at Kevin Campbell and Wrighty.
When I was a kid I used to stand at the front of the North Bank, and when WHU came to play it was always a bloodbath. I once got threatened with an axe by one of the numbskulls (thankfully the police saw him and threw him out) …. and I was only about 12 !!
Nice friendly club? Good fans? No way ….. they are a bunch of hoodlums.
Hope we smash them
also he scored header and made an assist , 1 week ago to their main rivals lokomotiv moscow, and they won 3-0
cheers geoff, Also what about woodgate why do people keep giving that injury prone bloke a run?
Raddy if they didn’t say yes, you can look after my car, they lost their hubcaps or we’d prise off their Zodiac badges. I was an Eastender and didn’t know any better.
It gave me my love of making money though.
As for throwing bananas at Kevin Campbell, we all did that!
I was kidding about the bananas!
Aussie he really is a crock in the Anderton mould isn’t he!
georgian, looks like another Arswaxin type
Hey, wot about Francis Coquelin, Denilson, and Nasri? No war hero in midfield may encourage the whole team to keep closing down the opposition higher up the pitch. Defending as a team is the big difference for us this season, and the arrival of a great defensive midfielder could could add too much complacency to the squad defensively. I still think (since last season) that this is the best squad yet. I have seen som wicked goals and movement this season already and am buzzing about this season. My only concern is injury to Gallas or Vermaelen. If we are in top gear today, we will surely wHoop the hammers. An early goal for Arsenal… DANGER!!!
Geoff, why did you become a Gooner then, just out of interest ?
Dave welcome to Le Grove, you are now free to blog.
I cant believe the commentry said that capello went to watch him what a waste of time better of goin watch cheski to see joe cole
Who has a video of the so-called fight between Verminator and RvP in the Emirates Cup? Can’t find it anywhere!
They were my local club and I loved the colours, red being my favourite, the Empire colour and all that!
Ok got it, it was all about territory
Of course!
Morning Le Grove
Nice post Geoff, I have a horrible feeling about today, whenever I laugh at the Spuds losing it bites me on the bottom
they are calling him “new hleb”, “new arshavin”, “new “Georgi Kinkladze” because all they are from old soviet union
Empire red was Alf’s favourite colour but he still loved West Ham
Rico, morning, not today it won’t, today will will hammers the happy hammers!
i hope that feelin is wrong rico dont u go puttin bad karma on the boys
Ok Geoff, you have convinced me
Aussie – I hope I am well off the mark and we whip their hides
Morning and good post Geoff!
Winning today’s game wold mean so much, and I know we can win it! Jumping over the spuds and being closer to chelski. I think the scousers and the mancs will play a draw.
GG
I was born equidistant from AFC and THFC. I chose The Gooners because my Dad was a big Spurs fan !!
Why did you become a Gooner ?
Geoff…. I was going to say that but thought better of it (hub-caps, business initiative etc)
Good to see Lennon go off crocked again, lets hope he misses our game
BR, I became a Gooner because of this
Gnarley that was so funny, that was pre PC world, no fucker got offended it was funny.
If you say that’s funny now days, you are branded a sick racist, I bet Clyde Best love being the centre of attention.
As soon as I can get Pedro to answer his phone, well put that clip on the post.
Raddy, good man!
Evening rico, I watched the replay of stoke winning, but didn’t gloat, coz i know exactly what you mean. Karma works in mysterious ways
Hi Rico.
I was there that day GG. I guess Geoff was as well
BR, I know you were there, it was you who passed the ball to Charlie from the goal
*for
Raddy I couldn’t get a ticket, that was pre season ticket days, I watched it with my brother who is a Leeds fan and he wanted the scousers to win to stop us getting the double.
Bobby Moore was class. I just read Pele’s autobiography and he says that Moore was the best defender he ever played against.
No TV though
Leeds fan? Is there a streak of madness running through the family?
I was adopted Raddy!
morning all – hope we will trash’em and leave’em for dead
I became an AFC fan while still in Poland – funny thing, as I was not too much into football as a kid, then the interest developed and Arsenal was the team I took the shine to after watching some league games on the satellite TV and European football…
having a die-hard Gooner mate must have helped as well!
Arsenal was the first team I had ever identified myself with – even though it started in my teenage years, one can say this is the only team in my life
Suga Once a Gunner always a Gunner. It is for life.
If I put all the hours and money and thought into my career instead of The Arsenal, I would be living on my yacht in the Caribbean !
Still don’t get it Geoff.
Brother must have lived with you in E Ham. I guess they had a handier crew !!
How confusing is all this clock changing…..I’m an hour in credit and didn’t even know it!!! Anyway, liking the post Geoff; trying to work out your age and reckon it might be 25? (flattery will get me everywhere I hope….)as for WH, I am still nervous
as so want to overtake the Spuds and snap at Chelski’s heals,then onwards.I actually hope ManU/Lpool will draw, but have a sneaking feeling that MU will win.
I remember watching Anders 90 minutes Limpar against Liverpool and John Barnes ‘walking’ around on the pitch, the game seemed so slow against to-days in comparison.
Morning all
Nice post Geoff – I’ve missed your history lessons
When I was 6 I promised a little boy who was also 6 that I would be a gooner for life. His dad was Dennis Evans……and no I’m not that old…..
It was all good though, as we’d just moved from Stoke Newington so my roots were in the right place
Peaches. You a Stokie !
Proper Gooner
Hi george, Raddy & peaches
george, 1971, that CG goal was the same for me – ahhhhhhh
I am waiting until 6pm, then hopefully I can really gloat for the Stoke
Raddy – you knew I was didn’t you? Riversdale Rd. Clissold park was my park
I was seriously in love with Charlie George and I’ve seen him quite a few times at football – its funny how men age
just been going through a popular manc blog..boy !!these guys sound rather negative about their club.Majority of em predicted a loss at anfield and many of em labelling fergies tactics as boring and cowardly.I myself too can’t see em mancs winning today which would just be wonderful for us.
I ain’t as relaxed as some of you guys about our game.Whenever we have rosicky unfit , i just feel we lose a bit of sharpness in midfield and even the final 3rd.I’m expecting this one to be close but hoping it’ll be another one of those hockey scores like one
i’ve had the privilege of speaking to charlie george once, about 4 years ago, when they were launching the highboury flats project he was hanging around the bar at highbury house on his jack jones.
So me and my cousin went over and said hello, had a little chat about our champs league run… as we had just beaten real with that henry goal…. the room was full of pure investors, no real gooners… he is employed by arsenal to meet and greet more or less… so on this evening it seemed me and my cousin were the only fans/investors around… his eyes lit up, and he stood up straight at the bar, instead of slouching on it slightly, when we started speaking arsenal with him
the man is a total total arsenal nut, and the nicest arsenal nut a gooner could meet.
and for him to be our henry of the early 70′s is just a bonus.
Morning Peaches, you are really confusing me with the Senderos picture, and I know you look nothing like that!
I used Charlie George in that clip as my GSE Art subject, so Skandi that gives you and idea.
HATE LATE KICK OFFS!!!!!
Right fellow Grovers..
time to make some easy cash on a Sunday afternoon, whilst sitting on your arse watching the arsenal.
Step 1. go to paddypower.com and open a betting accout
Step 2. deposit cash
Step 3. back scott parker to be shown a card @ 3/1
Piece of piss.
WOW Geoff we are nearly back to Tin Baths and crinkly LCC crinkly noise toilet paper,no soft wipes then,i don’t post often,but it was nice to see your post jim[61] well done.
Enjoy the match all – catch you when we are 3rd in the premiership
My grandad took me to west ham when I was ten (1968) it was fucking horrible. Huge fat skinheads doing a knees up muvver brahn. And me a posh boy from Brixton I was scared for life.
GM your from brixton? skate park there is sweet
lol, gm, must have been some trauma, this
‘forver blowing Bubbles’ – any chance Wacko Jako wrote this?
Ah the elite gathering is back, and good morning/evening.
And I was there as well, I re live that CG goal from time to time, pity he had a comparitable short career at Arsenal, as Bertie Mee didn’t get on with our local hero.
CG was the fore runner to Paul Merson.
Trexe
do you mean the skate park near the academy?
Treze sorry
Morning kelsey
Good morning everyone btw
yeah, I travel there from shepherds bush almost every day these days
yep, he probably does, GM – I used to live 10 minutes walk from there @ Stockwell Gardens
Green Leaf ‘grocery’ – what a legend this place is
Morning Kelsey, GM.
Good call about CG and The Merse
I lived on Stockwell Park Estate. What a shithole. I hate south London. I never go there now My Mum’s moved to a home in Finsbury park. I’ve never skated but that park is quite popular though.
yeah gets really busy these days, theres one in finsbury park too though… coincidentally i might be moving there in the new year (finsbury not brixton)
All west ham fans are like buster bloodvessel from bad manners!!
I only lived there for a few months (came to London for not having anything better to do) and agreed, not the nicest ‘hood you will ever see…
had a few funny situations there, good memories – working, clubbing & buying records: shame I could not get a ticket to Highbury for love or money…
When my kids were young I bought them inline skates put them on them and they said “how do you do it dad?” I told them the had to work it out for themselves. I didn’t have a clue. I’d break mu neck. I took them to the Skate park a few times when my parents still lived there.
I lived in hoxton N.1 when it was a shithole until jamie oliver poshed it up, there was a 50 50 split with the spuds who then would you believe were the dominant club in north london (for the young fans only)having a elder brother who was a bit of a football thug greatly influenced me of what team to support!!
I’ve got some clients who are West Ham fans. Maybe it’s the lack of recent success but I’d rather talk about football with them than tha bigheaded mancs and chavs.
I used to go to Chelsea when I was a kid (being the local team) that was a shithole too. Put me off football til I married into a gooner family. My sister did too so my brother in law was an influence. I’ve been a plastic ever since.
Reggie
It’s really funny how Hoxton has become fashionable.
yeah i was on crutches for a while after a skateboard related incident… sucks to get hurt but it is my greatest passion after AFC
Yeah GM its strange 30 years back it was a dump couldnt wait to move away from there’
now theres artists,actors,turd burglers,all manner of people living there,cant make out why?can you!!
I can barely ride a bike treze. A skateboard would kill me. I watch it on extreme sports sometimes. Can you do all that grinding and stuff?
GM i only started in like april so not yet, mainly learning the more basic stuff still, hope to move onto grinds and stuff soon though
There’s not even a tube there is there? Shoreditch is a wierd one too. It used to be a ghost town now it’s full of boys in tight trousers and plimsoles 24/7.
Treze
There is a really good film about the origins of skateboarding in California. Can’t remember what it’s called but worth wathing
GM i’ll definitely look it up, any idea whos in it or any kind of name?
I went into one of my old haunts a few years back (i wont say which pub) all the windows were blacked out
anyway goes in with a few mates all queers with leather strides on with hankies hanging out there back pockets !! Never seen 4 blokes drink a pint so fuckin quick,sweating now just thinking about it HA!HA!
No Treze but it’s documntary stuff from the 60′s. Some surfers wanted to surf when there wasn’t any surf so they screwed wheels on to small surboards.
i’ll have a look round youtube after the game, catching up on south park right now
try this Treze
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7734067482568610083#
I was born in St. Barts, raised for a short while Stokie. Born a gooner and happy for it!
Similar to Geoff, I got chucked out East early on, moving to Romford and have gently drifted further east the older I get. Brentwood now and I figure by the time I’m 60 I’m going to be looking at a nice retirement on a boat in the Channel.
East Ham – always an interesting place! – used to go to the Ruskins back in my Grunge days. Now that place had a distinct odour! Sweaty dampness is the only way to describe the atmosphere! Nice…
As for Stokie, I’m still baffled to this day as to when Clissold Park becomes Lordship Park and vice versa. Is it before the tea shop / animals or after?
Good memories of growing up and going to see the Arsenal on a Saturday, staying over my nans in Stokie and playing football on the dustball of a football pitch in the park. When I was 8 / 9 years old and me and my brother were playing against the local kids I thought it was a good idea to put in a tasty sliding tackle and took off half the skin on my right leg. Can still remember the pain…worse than sliding on astroturf…
Have you seen the scene in police acadmey when the 2 grasses were told the party was at that bar thats what it was like!!
cheers GM i’ll save the link thanks.. anyway, hope Eduardo gets a start today
The whole of that part of town was shite GM.
I started my business doing the markets in Shoreditch and Hoxton. It was terrible.
I recall going to see a house in Islington with my first wife, it was one of those 4 storey flat front Georgian jobs – probably worth €4m now. It was 18k and I recall thinking that it was never worth the money, the area was total shite and the re-sale value was terrible. I bought in Hendon, which gives an indication of my business acumen !!!
Amazing how London has changed
I saw a really weird film called skater dater when I was a kid. weird because he was on a little board with wheels. never seen one before that
What end of the market was your stall BR?
Geoff. Is Highbury really only 2.5 miles from Bethnal Green? It always feels farther when I drive that way.
G’day all, 3-0 tonight! Love being able to blog from the iPhone!
I really want us to win today to keep the pressure up on top, currently if we win our games in hand there’s no team thats gonna be over 1 point ahead of us, it’s important we maintain the results and don’t drop points, these are the games the season depends upon, we should be winning this game, cause the Chelsea game could go either way, we have a good chance against Spurs but they are also a threat and it won’t be easy, let’s hope we win, ideally Liverpool will also beat Man U, then I think we could go top soon enough if we keep winning.
Cole told the News of the World: “I’m not stupid. Some Arsenal fans will never like me and some will never appreciate me or respect me. The first time we played Arsenal it was funny – they were throwing notes at me and it was a laugh.
How’s that for an understatement? Wanker
What i want to know is who the fuck is this “bubbles” guy and why does he get all the fun. A little less blowing and a little more of this wouldnt go amiss – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CWtX-SCCwA
I wont be able to watch on tv today because apparently having an illegal box means the bastards dont like it and end up cutting it off so im gonna have to look for a stream. cunts!
have you got a dreambox Stu? Should be ok
anyone on here going today
just wondered what tube is nearest stadium
I dunno GM. Seeing as i have never heard f Dreambox i assume i dont. Is it vital?
come on arsenal its our year i can feel it!!!
Geoff re the banana throwing – “I bet Clyde Best loved being the centre of attention”
Wot an absolute cunt of a comment that is Geoff, or is this me having no sense of humour again…??
You’ve hit a new nadir with that one.
Stu
Dreambox is a cable box. Have you got a converted box?
If converted is the same as chipped then yes. My dad is too cheap to get a proper one so i have to make do with one that has to be fixed every few weeks. Its a balls to deal with!
Educate him ffs GM!!
Do some research on dreambox 500c stu.
I shall be watching on mine today.
I don’t know what a chipped one is but you can learn to fix it yourself. You only need to input the keys when they do a keyroll.
Will do GM. Are dreamboxes expensive. Just say a 2007 comment (via google obviously) saying it was £110. Surely the price would have changed.
bit slow today.
I paid £80.
http://www.digitalworldz.co.uk/cable_satellite_console_forum.html
read a bit on here.
Thats pretty cheap. Is that for a whole year or like a permanent deal?
You buy it as a one off Stu. I’m thinking of getting a motorised sattelite set up. But I need to research it first.
If you chip a cable box like v*rgin or n*l it’s highly illegal as it belongs to that company. Cable and sattelite boxes are mor of a grey area. There is a test case where sky are illegally prosecuting a publican for showing football from an EU country. It’s actually not really illegal to show a game from an Italian broadcaster if you’ve paid for that service.
I’m really looking forward to today’s game.
Lou yes mate it is, sharkey thanks, why don’t you fuck off to a PC site somewhere you humourless twit. You missed the whole point of Gnarley’s clip.
You are the reason this country has gone down the shitter, fucking PC police.
My team:
Mannone.
Sagna- Gallas- Vermaelen- Clichy/Giggs.
Eboue- Song- Fabregas.
Eduardo/RVP RVP/Eduardo- Arshavin.
2-1, Arsenal.
What time is Man u game
Now MG!
Barazite injured again.http://www.imscouting.com/global_news_item.aspx?id=3431
The clocks went back Geoff it’s at 2
Geoff whats the score
It hasn’t started
GM, thanks for the advice. I will seriously research and consider this. Better than having nothing. Seems fairly cheap too. Thanks again.
Im off for a dusche.
2 nil Liverpool.
Michael, I must be the only person that hasn’t changed my watch, I did the computer, the car, I did the lot bar my fucking watch!!! Thanks mate.
Think it will be the same lineup that started against fulham
I don’t think liverpool can win this one.Hope they can atleast end up not losing
You won’t miss it now!
If shrek doesn’t play they’ll be ok. If he does play hopefully he’ll make his injury worse (if red nose isn’t just lying) Anything but a manc win.
Collison and Behrami back for the Hammers. No Rosicky for us.
I think this will be a draw. 2-2.
Geoff do you remember ade coker (not sure about the spelling) he had 2 good games, was the new Pele then dissapeared. bit like gary birtles.
Liverfool to win 2-1
So the best result 4 us is Man u lose and do us all a favour providing we win against West Ham I know alot of u think it’s a full gone conclusion but we still concede sloppy goals due 2 lack of leadership at the back some1 who’s prepared 2 give a bollocking every now and then.
Rooney is starting
Michael I remember Ade playing in the same team as Clyde Best, and yes I’m sure you got the spelling right!
That’s a suprise Nishanth! That lyimg rednosed alky is so predictable.
Good Im glad Rooney is playing hes a dead cert to get sent off today!!
I’m off to play with myself (on my wii) see you between the games everyone
what time is the match against the hammers??
Gerrard out, Torres to start for Dippers…
Hope the team turns up. If they do, we should wing comfortably.
We need to show the killer instinct which was not there in mid-week.
Is Eduardo due to play today?
He’s available Reggie, maybe he pair him with Bendtner and Arshavin.
Would be a good combo that Geoff!!
When is this ManU>liverpool game actually on
10 mins MG
coming on right now Metal!!
Waiting for the hairy man to start jerking off when liverpool fans start to do WALK-ON!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fjvHQ1tUw8&feature=related
this should be the Arsenal song !!
cheers
anyone got any link??
Why is kick off at 2pm instead of 1 or 1.30? Its insanity!
I have a feeling that the best Liverpool will get from this is a draw. ManU look sharper, though its early days yet
Dont know why, but a bit worried about this game today.
Everyone in the Media are really going over the top about the current poor form of West Ham and Liverpool. Sometimes these days throw up a few shocks.
On paper, it should be 3 points, but unlike other games this season, I have a bit of a bad feeling…..Hope I am wrong.
So they can show less of us Stu its soo obvious!!
If we fancy our chances this season, West Ham is a game we really should win. And will.
The Liverpool game is more like a derby, the West Ham one is like playing Fulham, not Spurs.
Doesn’t look like torres is fully fit
Thankfully Zola wants to be like Wenger so he will try to play expansive football and we should easily beat them at that. I just hope whoever is in goal doesnt make any mistakes because that could cost us.
PTG-It will be a tough one.I don’t think we could lose this one but west ham could end up frustrating us
I think different I honestly believe the confidence is as strong as it’s ever been I think we should worry if we continue 2 lose concentration apart from that I think we’ll have 2 much 4 them especially with Arshavin in our team
Andy cunt gray bumming up van da sars save makes me laugh!”thats why he is the world no 1 ”
any1 got the link
Its a bit weird this Liverpool Vs Mancs game
There is no lose situation for us.
Liverpool win, then great Man Ure drop points and we catch up
Draw, brilliant they both drop points, win today and we get closer to Man Ure and pull away from the Scousers.
Man Ure Win, Great, there are realistically 5 teams battling for 4 CL slots, and this result would pretty much rule Liverpool out of it.
for me preferred result is a draw and loads of injuries and suspensions.
it will be important we score in the first 20 mins, that will put doubts in the hammers team
am looking at man utd, giggs, van der saar and scholes all over 34 years old
do u think arsene will have these kind of players??
i think they are vital to a team
scrappy match
West ham will be up for it.Their midfield will make it difficult for us.Their defense is not great though
it’s the damn daylight saving confusion
it’s still on here in new england
hope so Nishanth, but they have a very combative midfield and height upfront
Sharkey you can’t called my comments cunts and expect to keep coming on, especially when your comment was so wrong. Go and torment another site with your pc comments.
Yeah.Think it will be parker,noble collison and behrami.Will be difficult to break them down
commentators are cunts
carragher’s challenge on carrick was fair one
Whats happening in the match? ANy injuries yet?
Benayoun is class
its a shame tomas rosicky is out, i like him and i think he will be back to his best soon
another cuntish gem
the top fixtures in european football !!
top fixture my aSS
Do you think that Bulgarian pikey ever washes his hair?
we should have bought benayoun
Rosicky is world class!
What does pc actually stand for. I know it means “not wanting to offend anyone” and all that bullshit but what does pc stand for? Anyone?
paddy power the fucking wankers only let me have 40 quid on parker getting a card at 11/4
total cunts, 110 quid liabilty? pathetic
fecked andy gray….
Carragher got the ball and just like ridgewell caught Theo, he swept Carrick…
the cunt can’t even see if Carragher got the ball
Mascharano in our team would be amazing, just for his defensive capabilities.
Berbatov washed himself with his own spit…like a cat. Its the only explanation.
Mascherano isnt a great defender imo…just really really energetic.
cunt neville warming up
Stu
i love tomas rosicky he so agile when on the ball he is like a ballerina on the ball
Politically Correct.
Mascherano is as not even at same level as Denilson
he is just an energiser bunny
Got a bad feeling about today, the Hammers will be up for it, hope we show some bottle.
Treze the skating film is called “Dog town and Z-boys”, its very good. Also check out “stoked” another skating documentary with a visious twist. Skating was my life back in the nineties, still love it today but I’m far old for it now. Check out Chris Cole on youtube. Top Skater.
Evra is really a big cunt…isn’t it?
never apologetic even when he fouls
That’s why he’s good Stu. Energetic, strong and sturdy, very quick.
With Song in midfield we lack pace in our defensive third and it makes us vulnerable to loose balls.
Thanks Paulinho..
Whereas Denilson is just a laconic snail. Know which one I would prefer.
Torres is being fouled by rotation
and red nose is fuming as ref gives free kicks
STU-Mascherano is class.His form has dropped a little bit.But his tackling is just top notch
Denilson hands down Paulinho right!
Hello again everyone
The decisions in this game smacks of …
The refs fight back against Fergie… The ref is dreadful, but not as dreadful as Barbytoff!!
Which player will see red fist then ??
Paulinho
Mascherano would get skinned alive in 4-3-3
If that was dive than berbatov could have got sent off
oops, first, not fist
Mascheranos form dropped the second Maradonna gave him the captains armband. He is a shite captain aswell.
how typical
can’t believe the commentators are so manc biased
Let Sharkey back on….please Geoff…
Reg, yep Denilson every time
I can’t remember the last time our players surrounded the referee.The ref would probably send everyone off
Wasnt AW tracking Mascheranos when he was plying for river plate at 17?
Does any1 have a link please?
playing
Bolton and everton are having a goal fest
I don’t see why Mascherano would get skimmed alive in a 4-3-3 when he doesn’t in a 4-2-3-1 system.
His problem is mediocre passing ability. Song has more craft on the ball.
Come on Fergie, get more and more wound up as the second half passes, have another ‘moment’ after the game and lets all laugh when the FA throw the book at him rather than a couple of paragraphs
Im glad our players dont surround the ref because fucking hate it. Wheres the respect ffs. I know its hard to stay calm when things go against you unfairly but even so..these players are supposed to be professionals. If rugby players can be civilised then so should other sportsmen.
Valencia isn’t too bad?
Yeah.But a little bit of complaining will help.Captains are allowed to do that but then i can’t see cesc doing that often.Chelsea do it all the time
thanks AA23 i’ll check those out, i saw ‘stoked’ on dvd on sale before i’m sure, were you good when you used to skate?
Mascherano has Lucas next to him and used to have Alonso who rarely left his side. At arsenal every midfielder bombs forward whenever we win the ball so on a counter attack Masch would be screwed if they had more than 1 player attacking.
Paulinho 4-3-3 needs more versatility than just being a rabbit..
in all the liverfool matches i have rarely seen him make a useful pass and today all he did was chase around people and make a nuisance of himself..
he is built for 4-5-1
Stu, agree, if I was the ref I would start dishing out a few yellow cards for dissent to players who do that
Facking borefest
The rule should be “the captains and offending players are the only ones allowed to talk to the ref”. That would go a long way to sorting out the mad surrounding of referees.
Rugby players civilised you are having a bubble what about the fake blood cheat!!
Mash is a great defensive DM shocking distrubuter of the ball though.
Maybe Stu but I don’t see how Mascherano specifically gets screwed – like it’s some problem exclusive to him.
If Mascherano gets screwed then everyone does.
Just look at how United struggle to play through Liverpool year after year at Anfield but against us at the Emirates they cut through our midfield like a hit knife through butter.
It’s cause we have slow, lumbering defensive midfielders with not enough dynamism or acceleration.
That was 1 incident reggie. If you watched rugby you would know what i mean…not that i watch rugby often.
Rooney would get a complete card set by christmas
Fuckin pubic schoolboys game!!
link please
Rohan he got the message, Rico, stop worrying, we got this in the bag.
English players dont get booked for mouthing off because they have a laugh with the ref. Its mostly the foreign players imo.
Best example (and topical) : mascherano being sent for asking the ref a question against United a few seasons ago and Rooney using all the profanities known to man and never even being warned.
Not really paulinho… We play a far more attacking wise which leaves a lot of space for the opposition to exploit
Hardly a fair comparison there, the only time they’ve beaten us at The Emirtes is when we had half our team sitting behind the bench injured.
Mascherano’s a good player, so is Song for differeing reasons, we still need the other midfielders and the rest of the team switched on around him.
Turdinand looks pissed upon
Choy;
I still don’t see how that changes things. Song gets exposed multiples times as it now. Mascherano is quicker, has better stamina, and is better equipped to deal with breakaways than Song is.
Treze I was pretty good mate.Used to skate southbank most weekends, that was before they closed all the undercroft off. Romford skatepark, boston manor, latimer road, meanwhile. all the london spots. Some of the best days of my life.
Keyser;
It is a fair comparison because I’m taking into consideration the other games as well.
Our midfield was unbelievably porous in the 2-1 victory last season as well, and we did have men behind the ball at the time, before anyone who goes on about how flamboyantly attacking we are
Song’s out today.
Geoff, I want your confidence, I have even got my gooner shirt on today to bring good karma
Thats not good news about Song, who the heck will play there? Nasri maybe…
Rico apart from anything else West Ham are shit!
Wenger wants to see if we can play better with 10 men, I think we can.
Oh come on, it’s not a fair comparison, you sould like A with ‘unbeliveably porous’, we still had players out for that game and pretty deserved to win by a few goal margin.
Ha ha Geoff, are they that good
Geoff-Who has come in for song
no one Nisanth, we’ll play better with 10 men, we won’t give the ball away so much. It’s an experiment to drop him.
Should have dropped diaby then
Thats a balls, no Song? He was supposed to play and get booked so he serves his suspension against liverpool in the CC. Fuck sake! Now Diaby is gonna play there.
Nishanth, you may have something there, perhaps he’ll try 9 men.
I bet Diaby has a blinder today.
nishanth – Diaby before Song any day of the week…. to be dropped i mean
Play like a ‘blinder’ you mean Geoff
Bum, Torres – 1-0
Get in!!
Missing the point Keyser.
I’m talking about a certain aspect of play, not who didn’t or deserve the result.
Obviously the upside of our style of play as that we look like scoring a few ourselves most of the time. Still doesn’t mean we can’t improve our play defensively and that other teams have players that we couldn’t do with.
what a goal by Torres
Faceman I go to every game. I’m more of a man than you’ll ever be you wanker.
reggie, do you want the dippers to win?
Exce-fucking-lent…. United to drop more points, I wager. I wonder what the odds are on a 10 minute extratime now…
Good. Now hopefully a draw is the worst case scenario.
Yeah i do rico less points for the mancs better all round!!
You know where I go every game you prick, now fuck off somewhere else.
Great goal
Send it in you prick.
Fight fight fight fight fight fight
refree not very experienced but has been good imo.
Song rested/injured?WTF?Diaby again.
Stu that’s the last you’ll see of that tosser. I got rid of two in one day, that’s been a long time coming.
Paulinho – Not really, because Mascherano going forward is abject he struggles to think for himself at times and when he has too much time on the ball finds himself losing it. Flamini was more intelligent and probably had enough of the same qualities.
You’ve already mentioned it yourself as a detracting feature. Song might get caught out for speed but thats up to the other players in the team to be vigilent enough to not leave him 1 on 3 on a break.
Considering how little that midfield had played together, we scrambled well against United, and if you do offer up chances, the fact that our general play was far better is a mitigating factor.
Heh, dunno why I wrote all that, Mascherano might add defensive stability, his speed would definitely help, but he still has a downside and quite a significant one considering the way we play.
I dont get it either Geoff, they know the rules yet keep at it. I guess he just doesnt like authority fiqures.
Whos it gonna be next for the hat-trick Geoff!!
Wow, too much anger at le-grove today.
Any team news yet, apart from the song thing?
What time is kick off? SUrely the teams have been announced by now.
Ramsay must be playing today then.
He’s a little man Stu, they always are, reggie there is only one other that get my back up and he hasn’t been on today!
I just hate the dippers reggie and wanted them to get thrashed…
Paulinho I was joking about Song mate!
Geoff did you read my message on how to beat the queues for the trains the other day?
Lucas is not a footballer!!
Liverpool looking nervous
Phew, thats me out of the equation then Geoff
I hate em as well rico but i hate the mancs more, not as much as the chavs though!!
Fergie will be fuming,
It is as if only one team are allowed to get yellow cards!!!!
Arsenal: Mannone, Sagna, Gallas, Vermaelen, Clichy, Eboue, Song Billong, Fabregas, Diaby, Arshavin, van Persie.
Subs: Almunia, Nasri, Eduardo, Ramsey, Silvestre, Gibbs, Bendtner.
Referee: Chris Foy (Merseyside)
Best way to beat the queues is to vomit at the start of it and everyone will leave. Simples.
Arsenal: Mannone, Sagna, Gallas, Vermaelen, Clichy, Eboue, Song Billong, Fabregas, Diaby, Arshavin, van Persie.
Subs: Almunia, Nasri, Eduardo, Ramsey, Silvestre, Gibbs, Bendtner.
fucking shoot
Mannone,Sagna,Vermaelen,Gallas,clichy,Eboue,Fabregas,Song,Diaby,Rvp,Arshavin
Subs : Gibbs,Eduardo,Bendtner, Nasri, Almunia,Silvestre,Ramsey
Fucking balls! Eboue on the right win a-fucking-gain! I hate him there!
For some reason I cant post the line up, but as expected really
Diaby gets another crack
Would have preferred Bendtner to start up front,
Same team that looked completely dis-interested against AZ.
You got to be kidding me….Vela not on the bench
Our bench looks strong!!
Fucking strong bench though
Nasri, Eduardo, Bendtner!!!!!
Song is playing, Geoff you old tinker
How many consecutive starts is this for Diaby?
Surely this has to be Diaby’s last chance.
He better play well today
A least 2 of them should be starting tho ptg.
All the time.This could be difficult for us now.Hoping someone will come off the bench and make a good impact
Stu@15.38
You sick fucker.
Song’s playing.
Got a feeling Mannones gonna fuck up soon.
Paul I did, but I can’t be arsed to walk! I figured out I’ll stay and drink longer.
Rico, you’ve always been safe, that twit I lobbed off lives in Leicester so I know he never goes to games.
The other one lives even further, they aren’t real fans, just people with nothing else to do, at least we really support our team.
So confused. when does our game start, in 1/2 an hour?
wow mannone starts…. wow… why not eduardo or bendtner for diaby though
Off to get settled down for the game, catch you later..
Now where did I leave that bottle of wine…..
Eboue again. Unbelievable.
Somehow I have a bad feeling about this game…
I told you all before, Wenger will always play his favourites, to the detriment of the team though, I can stick Song, even Diaby because it’s in him, but Eboue on the wing is stupidity.
Cheers Geoff – you away away from Leicester too, no-one is worth it….
Is it a 4pm or 4.15 k.o today!!
Thanks 786.
Same here rohan.Hoping for some arshavin magic though
Hah, fergie going mad.
I’m putting my money on a RVP free-kick..
YESSSSSSSSSSS
Got that right Rico!
This game just gets better! Ha, ha, look at Shrek and his dad, ha, ha!
Rohan, i’ll take it instead.
VIDIC redcarded hahahah
Ha Ha red nose is having a right go!!
5 MINUTES
Vidic red card
Red nose…hahaha
who is this idiot ccommentator: “very slightly harsh”
If we beat WHU, we’ll be 1 point behind the Mancs with a game in hand. How the fuck is that 5 minutes.
Thats his 2nd red in as many games against Livershit.
Why did he get sent off?
hahaha..look at Red Nose…
what’ss the wager for a rooney dive?
3rd in a row stu
Geoff, and if we win our GIH (Bolton at home) we will be top on GD
Every single decision Shrek is there bitching to the referee, how come he is never ever booked. Unbe-fucking-lievable!
Can we trust pool not to blow it?
Which means they cant afford to fuck up today.
was shrek booked for protest?
Hes got his speedos on already!!
Is it nish? What was the first one?
Last season when they won 2-1.For an elbow or high boot
another red card!! keep em coming
Peter Taylor is the shittest commentator ever. It wa the other guy telling me Masch got sent off.
Nice one with Marcherano, maybe coqlin can now play instead of Song?
True enough Gambon! The trouble with this is they will have their peckers up for the Cup game this week.
At least that dirty little Argie won’t be playing!
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa another red…
Geoff, I meant to write, you stay away from Leicester
Mascherano won’t play against us in CC
Paulinho, mascherano gets red card
Hmmm Nish…i remember the one at OT in the 4-1. Cant remember the one you are thinking about.
yesssssssssssssssssssss
Nothing would make me go to that shit hole Rico. Not even if I was in debt!
Fuck sake Eggnog. Why couldnt you leave it at 1-0.
Fuckin stream died. wats the score guys
excellent… they are in for the hair-dryer treatment todya…
manscum fucked by ngog
good to see nani fucked by by carragher
Excellent..! Half way to a good day!
Now let’s close the gap Arsenal!
hahah
utd lose
mascherano misses carling cup tie!!
2-0
u got that right Geoff…
Common Arsenal
So now the 3 big boys have all lost 2 games. All even again.
How can they have all the ManU commentary next, we’re supposed to be playing, or did the clocks go back 2 hours?
The thing is no-one sees us as a serious threat? long may it continue!!
Nicely done. Its about time Man utd lost 2 games. Now its our turn to get a jump on the rest. And man city are 0-0 at HT
Its 4.15 KO Geoff!!
I actually feel a bit sorry for Eboue, because he’ll play wherever he’s asked to play, i blame AW for being a total arse for continuing with this fucking nonsense of Eboue in attack/midfield…..
I dont feel sorry for Eboue…not in the slightest.
COME ON ARSENAL!!!!!!!Hope the players are up for it
i second that reg57
Anyone got a stream for the match? Yes? No? Maybe?
Please don’t fuck up.Great oppurtunity for us
Stu:
http://tv.indonewyork.com/soccer1/
nasri on bench
Its our 3rd kit
Anyone alive?
Stu,
http://tvoo.net/
COME ON!!!
eboue’s the last of our worries. Diaby starts again when Nasri and Ramsey are available. Diaby can easily lose us a match like this. strongest bench I can remember for a long while.
Jamie Redknapp = Shit
Arsenal’s ‘away’ kit = Shit
Diaby = Shit
Eboue (in midfield) = Shit
Come on you Reds
Mannone is looking like a bag of nerves…
Whats it to be lads?
We are wearing the white but i dont have it. SO its either the home kit or away one. What should i go for?
*thanks for the link btw Samir. Working like a treat…so far.
I just don’t get how can Sky offfend its Arsenal supporting subscribers by putting this knob in the studio…
What the cock is going on with this constant starting of Diaby??
Isn’t he now of that age whereby AW’s own teachings he’s now gotta be ‘killing’ the careers of players like Wilshire and Vela….
I won £15 today with betfair (LFC 2-0)
How the fuck did we not score there????
ohhh rvp….
Nervy nervy nervy defending there guys….
VPs gonna score a header from a sagna cross…
DDM Nasri is coming back real soon
MG – I hope so, but we need Nasri AND Rosicky so that we don’t have to witness Eboue & Diaby as starters….
That looks nasty
DDM I doubt Rosicky is gonna last he is just far 2 injury prone but whats annoying is Merida is much much better then Diaby
Whats that stu almunias barnett
What looked nasty?
Is Eboue in our midfeild again?
Stu let us know which shirt you go for, it could influence the outcome of the game.
Stream down any links??????
Where the fuck is Eboue supposed to be playing in this system??
Mannone is fucking useless
We need a keeper in january funny that I said that should be 1 of the top 3 piorioties during the summer window looks like I’m right again unfortunatly
Clichy is just awful.
Clichy, Jesus fucking Christ man it’s a basic footballing skill, crossing the ball under no fucking pressure…..
did any1 see that clichy cross lol
I dont remember you ever saying that Metal Gear.
Was that supposed to be a cross?
Its an offence to players like Cesc, RVP & AA to make them play with Clichy, Mannone & Eboue.
clichy can’t cross, thats a fact
He’s not even that quick anymore either.
Fucking hell long throw almost punished then!!
AA23 there is an average of 200 bloggers on here everday I said this months ago you’re not supposed remember.
1-0
Get in.
COME ON
RVPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
should have headed it rob!!
I fucking told you! VP from a sagna cross!
Clichy thats what u call a cross take note
Who said RVFP would score from a Sagna cross????
Mystic meg!!
Average cross by Sagna, Green fuckup, and a simple finish for RvP…….c’mon you Gooners!!
I went back and had a look Meatl Gear. nithuing from you about goalkeepers. stop talking bollocks mate.
Get in the Van P!
yyyyeeeeaaaaahhhhhhhh
GOL GOL GOL GOL GOL GOL GOL GOL GOL GOL GOL GOL GOL GOL LA GOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LOL lucky cross from Sagna
Stu you said VP header ffrom a Sagna Cross.
completely wrong as usual!
joking mate.
It was me Gambon…not mystic meg.
Get in! Been a nice game to watch so far…both teams having a go and a little blood ‘n’ guts in all of them.
It’s a shame that we have to hear Alan Smith, though. Such a shame to see a former favourite Arsenal turn into such a wanker.
RVP 1-0!!!!!!!!!
Close enough tho aa23.
free header
seems like eboue doesn’t know where to play lol
I know Stu. I’ll take those any day of the week, nice cross, simple tap in. nothing wrong with that.
Rob Green, who’d have thought it.
I know this like a broken record, but I can’t stress enough how shit Clichy is.
More comedy defending by Arsenal….
carton cole will score atleast one today
And who the fuck was that to Song?
Were panicking already its west ham ffs!
More clown play by Song, well lost fella!!
Song what are u doing
lol that was Diaby-like from Song
What a poor touch by RvP after being put in by AA23….
Any1 rate Behrani?
That just about sums up Diaby – Brilliantly brought down and controlled, turned into trouble and played misplaced pass all in one movement….he really is a luxury we can’t afford….
Diaby is so thick
AA23′s vision is just so so good….
DDM very good summary on Diaby
Crap cross number 4,817 from Clichy!!
I was very impressed with Behrami’s performance against us last season at the Emirates. Useful utility man.
What the fuck is Eboue doing up there as a CF FFS
wow fabreagas’s ball was nice
Actually that was good covering play by Diaby there….
we are way too fuckin’ casual – again…
And, then he goes and does that!!
Diaby why?
this gale starting to look like the AZ match…depressing
We are trying to play in 2nd gear again!!
Is Sagna playin RM with Eboue RB???
Carlton Cole is a busy little player isn’t he…lucky for us he hasn’t got the quality to back it up.
this game starting to look like the AZ match…depressing
any working links
Wow………Diaby gives away a dangerous freekick in a dangerous position.
Get the second goal then relax a little
http://tv.indonewyork.com/soccer1/
2-0
GALLAS
GALLAS!!
Gallas!!!!
So much for AZ part II…
Great header from a corner William, he really wanted that….
The rest of our team could do with that spirit….
yeeeeaaaaahahhh
Metal Gear your wish has been granted.
Billy!!!
GET IN
Gallllassss!!! Great corner from RVP!
Gallas is hurt now!
This could be worrying, he was signalling to the bench!!
Gallas
Fuckin’ get in! 2-0 get a third before ht and bring on Nasri.
gallas seems injured
Go on ref send them both off!!
Who’d be the bigger loss Diaby for us or Carlton Cole for them ha ha ha!!
Cole is playing Very well!
William is definitely struggling….
Is it just my stream or does Sagna look like he’s bulked up? He looks massive.
Thomas Thomas Thomas!
Evening all: Fulham came back from 2-0 down to earn a draw at Eastlands. So far results are going our way, lets hope we can keep a clean sheet.
Ha Ha Vermy….
Heh, attacking centre-backs love them, races 70 yards forward to get in the cross, jogs back 70 yards win the header on a West ham attack.
Get another goal boys.
Excellent news Truth….
Eeee-Oooop Geoff
The away fans are in fine voice again….
Trois!
diaby never humps and try to win headers, i wonder if he is scared haha
FIVE FOOT FOUR…FIVE FOOT FOUR…WE’VE GOT ARSHAVIN…FUCK ADEBAYOR!
Nice play by Song (!) and Fab4 there…
Yeah I saw it Dennis, he went backwards!
Solid half if a little lack lustre at times….
Excellent weekend again if you hold this result. All above us dropping points and were gaining on them.
2 nil at half time, fine by me. we arent playing badly, not great but winning comfortably, isnt that what everyone said we needed to do?
did the togo twat score?
that collison is a good player, never panics on the ball. we could rob him from them in jan.
Not really troubled by west ham.Diaby has been okay by his standards.Finally learning to keep things simple.Clichy is just awful
Still feel nervous. We need the third.
eboue my idooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool !
)
Atleast for once RVP didn’t take a free kick
lol paulinho… i know how u feel.
A 3rd would be great, you just no these jammy pricks will score to put the nerves on edge. Need a 3rd. Get a 3rd.
No real flow in our game.I don’t care as long as we win
Sagna looks ok. Song is solid.
What i have liked about the first half is that without the ball the players have been quick to pressure the oppo and force an error.
I see man city only drew again. Sparky will be on shakey ground
shitty held at home against fulham, could this weekend get any better?
…..& they blew a 2 goal lead.
We need a 3rd, get a 3rd
does mashcarano’s red card mean he’s out of the game wednesday? he played from liverpool v leeds in carling cup.
Metal cheers but i cant get that to work.Any other links
Hopefully west ham will try to play a more open game now and cesc and arshavin can take advantage
lol greedy twat,he claimed that was his goal,typical cunt
Mascherano will miss the game
reading the comments so many of us think we will concede against this poor side.i feel the same, yet i don’t know why.at 1-0 i wanted a second and after the second i still feel uncomfortable.
anyone got the answer.
hope torres is rested too
http://tvoo.net/
will be in English during the game…
Did masch and Vidic get straight reds or 2 yellows?
ALEX SONG… the best player on the pitch. He is the most technically gifted defensive mid in world football. His confidence on the ball is awe inspiring. I bloody love him.
Second half, c’mon you gunners let’s bury this rubbish…
Torres played with a pain killing injection, i would be amazed if he plays in midweek….
Any streamers should check out flfooty. 18 notes for a season pass and the streams are pucker. I moved to canada in the summer and I’ve been watching all the games with no troubles at all. They show every prem game.
http://www.freelivefooty.com/schedule/
2 Yellows. Hopefully we’ll give a run out to NAsri, Eddie and BEndy
when were 3 up
Alex Song is doing no ore that a good job against very average opposition, i shake my head in disbelief….
WTF happeing to the stream?
Yon, what the fuck are you talking about.
C’mon Goons we’re sitting back again….
Fuck me Sagna!
Why would we be after that numpty from Bordeaux when we should be trying to buy players of the calibre of Carlton Cole, he has been very impressive gain today…
Trois………again!
Was just thinking that DDM, would be a great squad option.
Oh my life AA23….
Alex Song has given the ball away more than he hasn’t today, he frightens me.
Song needs a yellow card, then he gets banned for the carling cup game!
Stream died. score?
Suit me sir!
still 2-0
Geoff, what do you think of Carlton Cole?
C’mon keeper shout for the fucking ball…
DDM – Cole’s a grafter and decent but not the finished article by any means. He’s been busy but has had a sniff of a goal? Lacks the craft to match his graft. There’s better out there but from the little I’ve seen of Chamakh…not him…
Eboues a disgrace to this team.
http://atdhe.net/10147/watch-west-ham-united-vs-fc-arsenal
nice shot by cesc unlucky not to score
He’s been busy but has had a sniff of a goal?
True, but hardly his fault his team mates are garbage, and quite frankly Cole is technically head n shoulders above half the players playing in white at the moment.
And, imho a much better player/prospect than Bentner….
Sit down Clarke you Chav cunt!
Ha Ha ha, Billy Smart’s fucking circus!!
Trois et Trois….
Fuck off Eboue you fucking idiot….
I think Cole looks good in this team, he’s a better bet than Hesky, but I wouldn’t have him, a bit too Kevin Campbell’ish for me.
we need a 3rd this is why we need 2 sign Huntalaar, Frey and a DM in January
True enough about his teammates but going to have disagree about him better technically than a lot of our players – and I don’t feel he’s better than ANY of our strikers when they’re all fit – comparing an average player to some bad ones doesn’t really make a point, particularly when they don’t play in the same position.
Someone get Arshavin and Eboue off the pitch. Bring on Bendtner and Eduardo.
What is wrong with Diaby and Eboue?
They’re simply incapable of concentrating for more than a few seconds.
You know Arshavin looks totally disinterested at times, i personally believe he is fucking wasted wide and should be more involved by being moved centrally….
crap from eboue, just snatched at it. why didnt he crosS??
wtf Hines! so late!
Metal Gear. We also need a new cd, since Senderos and Silvestre are crap, and Johan is always injured.
I don’t think we need to sign a new striker but if I could pick one, anyone….Fabiano.
Huntelaar is shite now. Hasnt even scored for AC yet.
And I bet Arshavin gets taken off.
At last, a shot!
I don’t think Arshavin quite believes he plays with shit like Eboue and Diaby honestly…the look he gives them when one of their passes to him goes fucking nowhere…
Diaby again
We literally cannot play against a team that plays possum.
Paulinho – That’s because they are both clueless simpletons….
wtf was that for?
There you go…..
How fucking predictable.
Typical. I blame you for that DDM
Poor keeping….
That was Eboue’s fault for not making a tackle, and he wonders why he gets booed.
WTF!!! Mannone!! damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!
Are you fucking serious! Fucking shit defending and goalkeeping! BALLS!
When the fuck are we gonna learn to keep clean sheets??!!!!
Its fucking pathetic
fuck me, how shit is Mannone?
Diaby caused that. Useless cunt.
stupid manone
Great Diaby and the goalkeeper any1 agrees that Diaby must be dropped and a new world class keeper (frey) is brought in Wenger why do u have 2 inexperienced GK as cover 4 an above average 1
How many fucking goals have we let in so far this season?
If we fucking draw its all….eboue, Diaby and mannones fault.
Fucking hell Diaby he wasn’t even running in that direction….
we’re sooooooooo luckyy!!!
Gallas u hothead cant u keep you’re cool
We’re definately the thickest top four team by a long way.
FUCK! More shit defending! What the fuck! Calm the fuck down.
RvP has totally disappeared in this half….
How many goals do we concede
anyone for 2-2
Well done Song you gormless cunt.
FUICKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
i just said 2-2,and here it is
YOU ABSOLUTE CUNT REFEREE.
Ha Ha.
Fucking clowns.
unreal. absolutely unreal
FUCK RIGHT OFF!
i cant believe us!!
that werent no penalty
Wankers!
‘our goalkeepers are good enough’
Its not really that we conceed too many, we just conceed at least one goal every single game.
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Fucking diaby gives away a freekick and mannone compounds his mistake with another. Nervy finish again.
I fucking hate this bullshit!
cunt.
We give away a 2 goal lead suprise suprise
fuck
only Arsenal can make this bunch of cunts look like a side. they can buy a point and we make them look like fucking Real Madrid.
Absolute fucking bollocks.
SHITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Metal Gear – ‘surprise surprise’? When was the last time we threw away a 2 goal lead?
fukkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk offffffffffffff!!! song but that was a fukinnn divee!
Too many of our players have the mentality of an 8 year old, completely crumble under the slightest pressure.
Truely ridiculous.
a 2 goal lead down the fucking drain. these cunts better earn thier money now and win this game.
the usual suspects all being…well usual suspects today. Shit game from Song, Eboue, Diaby possibly worst still. Not one looks like a quality player today…
That’s what happens you prick Wenger when you fill your team up with dopey cunts.
What are your excuses gonna be today Arsene??
i tell you if some twat comes on here and says we dont need a keeper i will personaly find where they live and fucking kill em!
like to think we will win, but more likely we go to shit and completely collapse
“Give me one more season”
“This year we will win something”
Wenger you fucking cunt.
wtf no eduardo then?
And we didnt make any fucking subs. No suprise we throw leads away when we have so many idiots playing the whole match.
make some fucking changes bring on nasri!!!
every time man untd loses we fuck up
we made it stu, bendtner for eboue
Yes even when we win the cracks were there thats why this is no suprise Wenger is 2 blame if we drop points it’s he who plays Eboue in our attack it’s he who persist with Diaby and it’s he who signed no Keeper
Nik to score the winner!
there you go – fuckin’ OLEs in the 60th minute…
I seriousla cant belive that we let these cunts back from 2 nil down. I bet B.B.K is wanking himself off right now.
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Wheres the sub Wenger
bye bye Parker you dog.
Scott Parker sent off?
All started when that mug Eboue shot instead of crossing.
I’ve got to say I’m shocked about our performance in the final third. Movement, passing, crossing, shooting…all shite.
And now my stream is gone and i cant see anything.
good. get off you dirty cunt.
Stream down Link???
c,monnnnnnnnnnn
Song cannot do anything even remotely attacking when he tries to go forward….hes such a dipshit
It down to Wenger if you ask me, if he thinks Eboue was worth staying on for 82 minutes, he must be fucking blind, deaf and stupid.
I cant fucking stand this. making this bunch of shit look like a team. sickening. properly sickening.
We have got to be the most fragile team i have ever seen in my life.
Another day when our fucking mug players think they’ve done enough, fucking seriously unprofessional, and not for the first time this season…..
bring on eduardooooooo!! fukin hell wenger
Na we’ve got great keepers we’re ok in that department all we need is a DM and a CB and possibly a stiker this is why we dont win tropies Wenger is a cunt
Eddie to come on with three minutes to go, what’s the fucking point Wenger you mug!!
Where are the fucking ole’s now.
FINALLY!
That fucking cunt of a number 2 should’ve come off an hour ago….
Wonder if Wenger is flicking through his excuse book. Its a big big book these days.
2 minutes to go and finally he brings on a player. Muppet.
Oh thats nice, Eduardo gets a whole 3 minutes and Bendtner gets a good…what was it…8?
Song, Eboue, Mannoe, Almunia, Diaby, Clichy, Sagna are all liabilities. They are not Premier league top quality. We wont win anything with all these weak links.
Wenger has got to take blame for not buying quality players in these positions.
We all knew this all coming. This team has no winning mentality. Nor I am afraid has the manager or the board.
All those idiots who has midweek’s lapse against AZ didnt matter – it always matters. Conceding late goals against inferior opposition is a systom of serious problems.
Who’d have thought it. Hines, a fucking teen, has been the player to ruin our hopes of winning.
How long 4 that sub Wenger
WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh no eduardo should have scored
Point blank miss!
What the fuck happened there. Why didnt that go in!
Wengers stupid selection again, just like last season all over again.
I can see why no-one takes seriously now
Why do we never capitalise on a UTD loss?
Oh but we were the better team and dominated them for most of the match.
It all counts for fuck all tho.
us
bendy is playing DM he has to go forward
Gooner
Cos were a team of fragile fucking pampered kids.
theyve got no heart.
Same old same old
Got the chance to close the gap but we blew it…..typical!
Gollygosh!
This is a direct result of Wenger sticking with these perennial fucking losers time and time again….
He sits on the bench and is happy to watch us walk around in second gear when weak opposition is there for the taking, the slack, lazy attitude is the responsibility of the team’s manager….
Cant hold onto a lead.
We have no heart.
That was shit. I’m off to punch some walls.
fucking pathetic….
what a bunch of cunts!!
Absolutely fucking pathetic. Shame on the lot of them.
Fucking idiot Wenger with his shite selection…..we should ave expected it after the EXACT same team did likewise against AZ.
what the fucking fuckkkkkk
i think we should blame the leadership
why we doing this
FUCKING PATHETIC! FUCKING WENGER PUTTING ON EDUARDO IN THE 88TH!! WHAT THE FUCK DID HE EXPECT! WE CANNOT START DIABY AND EBOUE AND EXPECT TO WIN!!
Title winners?
fuck off.
Arshavin did not lead by example either. Poor game
Sky gimps in full voice, footballs a pantomime now, Crhis Foy is fucking pathetic. Got fucking bored and decided he needed to spice the game up a bit.
Fucking joke.I can’t believe this happened.I won’t even blame the players.Absolutely shocking from wenger.When they scored the first goal wenger should have realised that when we are negative we suck
i can’t stand eboue he has to go to the coca-cola champ or smth. diaby is the usual stupid losing ball. clichy is shit again.
the whammers had 3 shots on target =2 cunting goals
same old arsenal!!
Shit tactics by Wenger once again….
Got no fucking brains…
Why the fuck start Eboue and fucking DIABY!!!
we cant beat the teasm second from bottom with a two goal lead?
fucking bunch of cowards.
wenger is to blame for that result, manonne should be dropped, referee is a cunt
We will win Fuck all….. as usual
I don’t believe what i’ve just watched (again) these players are intelligent enough to see out a game. The same fucking players fucking up time and time and time again……
Let’s be serious here WHU are utter shite, are relegation fodder and were there for the taking, but all we did was walk the ball around thinking the job was done, fucking unprofessional…..
As long as Wenger has a hole in his arse and he keeps picking Diaby and Eboue he will win nothing with this team…..
Eboue & Diaby should have been off before kick off. Both off nothing in their positions, yet Le Gaffer continues to play them
—————-almunia—————–
–sagna—-gallas——–vermy—–gibbs
——nasri—–song——–fabreagas—
—–ashavin—–RvP——–rosiscky/edardo
let the mugs like eboue, diaby out of the team
It wasn’t a penalty.But that is not the issue.Why does wenger have to be such a cunt.Did anyone see diaby just strolling away when eduardo was about to come on
well fucking done you fucking cunts !!
2-0 up and we blow it sorry thats not what champions do !!!!!!!!!!
eboue playing wide for fucks sake cant wenger see it fucking never going to be good enough …
and wengers masterstroke using the subs what a fucking joke ,
sorry three shit keepers, and players who dont fancy putting in a shift = another trophyless season .
MUGS…
Fucking pathetic.
Threw away 2 points today
Threw away 2 points mid-week
Threw away 3 points at Old Trafford
Threw away 2 points at Anfield last year
Threw away 2 points at Villa Park last year
Threw away 3 points vs Spurs last year
Threw away the CL semi at Anfield
Threw away 3 points at Old Trafford 07/08
Threw away 3 points at Stamford Bridge 07/08
Anyone starting to notice a pattern??
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuukkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Yes it wasnt a foul for the 1st goal but Mannone has to concentrate better than that. He gave them the boost they were looking for, now all teams will feel if we outplay them they can still get something. Furious
Fucking Wenger. Diaby does not come through when we need him. Eboue is a RB not a midfielder, not a winger. Typical late and useless subs by Wenger. Fucking pathetic
Everytime we get a chance to close the gap down on scum and chavs we always screw up.
We never win playing eboue and diaby in the same midfield. If we have injuries to rosicky, nasri etc it’s time he went with the young players. It doesn’t help when the goalie gifts the opposition a goal every game tho.
All I have to say is we deserve that shit for a horrid performance. Shit subs by Wenger, Eboue was an absolute waste in midfield again and we fucking deserve that shit. Nice job Wenger you fuckin prick!!
we’ll prolly hear how it wasnt a penalty (which is wasn’t) though Parker should of clearly had one anyway! I think the fact we simply CANNOT hold a lead, and keep a clean sheet (and its always goal-keeping or defending ‘errors’). You only make errors, the same kinds over and over due to a lack of confidence. Maybe the team know they cannot defend well. whatever. We won’t win a thing this year. Anyone who thinks we can is just being hopeful and wearing song and Diaby tinted spectacles. Those two were fucking shit SHIT SHIT double shit today. How we gonna win anything with these two names a mainstay in our team. Fucking unbelievable really.
Honestly, this is a knee jerk reaction but this team CAN FUCK RIGHT OFF. So now we have to be leading 6-0 b4 its safe. 2-0 cruising should be enough for a club the stature as ours. Middle finger to this team display.
Mannone is shot
3 players must be dropped for the spuds game.
hahaha
same old wank shit posts coming up now…
the biggest culprit today was Arshavin
he slowed up a lot of moves and his movement was very bad… bad russian salad???
i think his head might have been turned a bit….just a lil bit…
We were ROBBED. Period.
I cannot blame any of the players or the gaffer for this result.
The ref was a real CUNT.
i just cant understand what he wants to prove by playing eboue as a forward,does he want to prove that eboue is very versatile(which eboue has proved that he is not) or he is keeping some promise he made with eboue for keeping him at club in summer.
Knew it half time and actually predicted 2-2 earlier on here today.
God I wish Wenger would fuck off. I’m so sick of watching thick players.
gotta put games to bed, thier subs come on and help change the game and ours get a full 10 minutes between them.
fuckin threw away a win.
Even after they equalised we were playing as if we were 3 goals ahead.Their player got sent off.And yet we could only create 1 meaningful chance in 10 fucking minutes.CUNTS
i dont think it had anything to with team selection in this case we did have 2 goal lead with edwardo on bench,they fell a sleep for second time in a week i thought they would have leraned there lesson its about killing the game off they did not do that most of the time if this manu or chelsea it be done deal
wenger should have made changes at 2 nil, he could see the complacency creeping back in, and refused to change things until it was too fucking late, this is exactly why we wont win the league.
There is not another team in the top 10 that couldve blown that in the last 30.
So what happens when we finish 3rd/4th
“I feel we are very close, one more season”
Cunts cunts cunts!
Diaby cunt. Mannone cunt.
2nd from bottom and worst west ham team I have seen in years. 2-0 up, 30 mins to go and they look like they are going through the motions. Mannone you cunt, push it round the post for fucks sake!
Song does not need to even be that tight to Cole, even if it was a soft decision.
There are times when this team makes me absolutely fucking pig sick and want to feel like twatting someone. Today is another of those days!
And in case I forgot to say it; Cunts!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaArrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!
Manone is too blame from the free kick should have pushed it away from the danger area not palm in back to cole for a simple header hes fuckin shit!!!
raynor
midfield of cesc diaby and song allowed only 6 penetrations into final 20 yards and defence let in only 3 shots…was that too bad?
fuck the forwards who should have scored more…
How many more performances like that will we witness before all the Wenger/Diaby/Eboue/Song apologists wake up and smell the fucking coffee!!
No wonder Arshavin looks thoroughly disinterested at times, he must look around him and think what a crock of shit half this team is, players like Vermin, Gallas, Fab4, Rosicky, RvP, AA23 carrying dogshit like the above!
Yeah but maybe they can learn from this match not to switch off again.NOT A CHANCE!!!!!!!
We’re far to brittle, can’t handle any sort of pressure. Even from a shit team like them. It never changes, season in season out.
Where is the leader at the back we’ve got no organizer Diaby, Eboue ahead of Merida, Wilshere, Ramsey and Vela go figure wenger does not want 2 kill the kids yes the kids are his lovechildren. This clown brings on Eduardo with how many minutes left? Why not bring him on at 2-0 so he could help kill the game off of course if it were chelsea or Man U 2-0 up against a top team let alone a team languishing in bottom 3 the game would have be over everything Wenger does we eventually pay the price 4 that game should have been 3 points in the bag up with us.
Wenger is the ultimate spin-master a deluded individual who jeporadises the teams chances by playing below average players and out of poisiton may I add this game has really done me in a 2-0 lead vanished incredible but then again this is Arsenal where we win and deluded fans hate it when people like me point out the flaws that could come back 2 haunt us and suprise suprise thats just happened.
Mannone needs to go ,though.
And AW please dont play Eboue upfront again. Please. Its an insult to us fans. And to Nik B.
this is just so perfect as midweek all the arsenal players told us “we cant switch off again”
So now Mannone gets dropped surely…………wtf was that bit of keeping. And Diaby gets nowhere near this team. Againits his fault for giving away the freekick on the edge of the motha fukin area. Geese
We will lose V spurs……
Wenger’s shit tactics will lose it.
Spen some money you prick and sell the shit at Arsenal OR let them go on a free……
FFS how the fuck is Wenger sooo shit with tactics?
Arshavin was horrible.So was eboue.Why not just take one of them off.We made carlton cole look like twice the player drogba is
these are just boys who haven’t struggled enough and don’t know what winning week in-week out means. They have all this money and their goals have been obtained. No desire out there today, they look bored and expected the win.
fuck mannone , fuck diaby , fuck eboue….i’ve said this time and time again…these players are just not good enough for us..how fukn bad was diaby??????..cant believe this………….perdro will you still defend diaby??????
AA23 can’t do anything much when that idiot eboue is demanding the ball, getting it, then doing nothing of substance with it. They played through eboue today, I don’t know why, maybe it was Wengers intentsions. It failed, & 2 points were thrown away.
I said at half time, we’re gonna draw this game. We weren’t playing particularly well and I knew we’d concede sooner or later.
Arindam, it’s a lot of bull…
fuck the ref – we should have scored a few more, not wank around with the ball in the second half…
2-2 flattered us. they were all shit and the manager
That result was coming from about 60 minutes onwards, regardless of it being a penalty or not, AW & Co. sit on the bench and let the players stroll around like the points are in the bag, no leadership on the pitch, no leadership from the bench, everyone going through the motions….
the spurs game is now like a cup final for both teams.
we need to get rid of the shit keepers we have
mannone shit
aluminia shit
fabianksi shit
song needed to be more composed
Guys, relax. We all know that we don’t have any chance to win a trophy. Funny how everyone is talking about our great defence, but we have concided so many goals. And typical for Wenger we have dropped 2 points. Same old shit once again. But hey, we have our golden generation. Well, aside from the fact, we haven’t won a trophy since 2005, maybe they are golden. LOL. Another Wenger f***k up. Changes are needed. Frey, Bruno Alves, a Esien type cdm, and a winger. I’m soooooooooooo pis***ed of it’s just hard to take.
Fucking pathetic
Geoff, dont you dare make another prediction again. EVER. I mean EVER.
I’ve just watched the replay on the penalty, and it was a penalty, that div Song kicked him in the back of the ankle, soft, but fucking stupid, fucking retard play form someone who isn’t intelligent enough to be replied upon….
Don’t anyone dare blame the ref…
I didn’t see him shake his magic wond and change the score…
Our shit players gave them it….
Sack Mannone,Diaby and Eboue forlife!
Eboue must be Le Gaffers favourite player, he must be to continue to get starts like he does. He is an absolute luxury, & he cost The Club heaps today, 2 points. Diaby now thinks he is Viera in waiting, but looks more like an accident waiting to happen. Oh shit it did happen, today.
So Arsene says the other day “dont worry we will conceed less goals”
Well arsene you cunt we have conceeded 13 goals in 9 games.
At this rate we will conceed 54 goals this season.
When will he man up and admit he doesnt know what he’s doing and bring a defence coach in. He is a fucking cunt, and his god complex wont let him see that he has weaknesses.
fuckin wenger says we had a good game and were unlucky, fuckin bullshit
“Yeah bbk, we should’ve won, though in the grander scheme of things it makes precious little difference. Could even be a good thing if it stops complacency costing us points in the prem”
sadly nothing learned
I’ll blame who I want, when I want, the refs a fucking cunt, he got fucking bored and changed the game, fuck him we’ll just have to win despite of him, rather than lose because of him.
why do people blame the same players all the time? they all played like cunts
Hello SUGA3! Are You also PISsed off? Frajerstwo!
2-nil and we fucked it up
Well Mannone did, WTF was that save all about, I think that is the fuck up that confirms his days at Arsenal are numbered. He has done ok in the last few weeks, but his insistence to do the “hollywood” save when he could have tipped that around the post or actually caught it has cost us the points
I wont blame Song for the Penalty as I don’t think it was, but when they did not get the dubious one a couple of mins before, they were always going to get that.
What I will say is that is the reason we will not win the PL this season. It is not the end result, every team draws games, but it is the manner of the draw. We were comfortable at 2-0 and have some how dropped 2 points. Chavski and Man Ure drop points but rarely in that manner and that is what we have to stamp out.
As for the game, i can’t pick out an Arsenal player for praise. Once again we played well within ourselves and acted too complacent at 2-0 up instead of going for the kill and it cost us.
I just hope now that with Nasri, Eduardo, Bendtner and hopefully Rosicky back fit, we see and end to playing Diaby and Eboue. I have no problems with Eboue at RB and at times he does ok at RM, but when you throw Diaby into the mix as well, we struggle to impress ourseleves on the game.
It is not the end of the world, we have moved up to 3rd, but you simply can’t drop points in that fashion and expect to come away with silverware.
I just hope that is a wake up call to Wenger. It is a poor poor result, and he had the chance to influence it from the bench and didn’t. He also has the chance to see first hand….AGAIN that certain individuals are not good enough and need to be moved on.
I think it definately highlights that our Keeper situation is simply not good enough. Mannone kept his place, but that said to me that he is unsure of Almunia and if he is, it is time to spend big on a fucking World Class Keeper in Jan.
I want to end on a high note. I thought Vermaelen was excellent. He was everywhere.
I can see us fukin letting spurs back in the game just like last year if we don’t fukin sort it out. wenger play our best team available!! and then we will slaughter them
Yeah Geoff no more predictions ever. It doesn’t work for you mate, it’s just not to be done…
we have no bollocks, even a shit side like that can push us around. we will never win a fucking thing with this bunch of women. lots of skill but no guts.
No Keyser Zola changed the game, Le Gaffer sat back on his arse & did nothing.
Paulinho, I agree with you about Eboue….
Why the fuck does Wenger play him in a advanced role?
…
He created and opening and instead playing the ball into the penalty box ….he shot it into row Z for no reason…
If he did not trust Eddy or Bendter to play the whole game..then why not play a front 3 of Vela RVP and Arshy on the right?
Wenger is fucking thick….why not make a change at 2-1?
Why does he wait until the opponents equalise to make changes?
Cant he see that though Eboue has absolutely no end product?
He has Vela rotting….I am sure he can play 2 games in a row…he could have played today and also on Tuesday…..
when zola put that kid hines on is when the game turned imo
We need to buy Akinfeev ASAP before Utd get him.
wats monone. diaby sagna and song doing in an arsenal shirt. they are not fucking good enough wenger. get it into ur thick brain. at 2-0 i knew this bunch of bigheads would start showboating. they done it on wed ,they,ve done it so many times before. this team will win fuck all.
fucking gutting to see them come back from two down, the champions league match wasn’t enough of a kick up the ass.
Even though the REF was the deciding factor in the game, we shouldnt really have let them back in the game.
The changes should have happened at 2-1.
Eboue had no clue what his role was in the team.
Diaby is a below average CM. He is average in the hole.
PS : The last 2 matches showed how important Rosicky is to the team. We lose our bite without him.
Heh Zola tried, Foy gave a free-kick against us when it should have been for us.
We were poor, we’ve seemed tired, but I’m guessing Wenger doesn’t want to rush players back, we should’ve won especially with Van Persie’s chance at the end, we’ve got a rest mid-week depending on who plays and hopefully Nasri comes through it fine along with Rosicky.
PS. Need 2 tickets for the Liverpool match on wed if anybody is offering
786 , AW sure as hell aint paying 10-15 mil for a keeper. He will end up with the Chavs / Ures.
after the midweek game we had sagna clichy and fabregas talking about how they learned from the AZ game…. FUCK SHIT…. Giving a 2 goal lead is not champion material……. ffs why wasnt a sub introduced to make things better after 60 mins…we were awful in the 2nd half….
That’s why we won’t win any more trophies with Wenger in charge.
“i do not want to kill a career”. Well your killing vela’s career by continuing to play those to hopeless individuals. If he can’t get in the team with rosicky and nasri out, then when can he?
An opportunity to really stake a claim for top spot, has gone begging. Eboue & Diaby togther in the starting line up will not be a winning formula, today has confirmed that.
Anyway I’m off for some kip, you can all fight/analyse this amongst yourselves. What a piss off
You know, I want to blame the players for being so fucking lazy, but I have to blame Wenger. He is too gentle with them, he needs to really kick them up the ass a bit.
Wenger really messed up my Sunday….I was going to teach a math class today but now I dont feel like it…
Even though we were 2-0 up we were never in complete control of the game….Fabregas was anonymous……
We never ever looked comfortable because Carlton Cole was single handedly creating problems….
Why didnt Arsene freshen things up with a change…he could have brought Eddy on and switched Arshavin over….or he could have brought on Bendy earlier..
Bendy and Eddy must have been annoyed being brought on only after it became 2-2….
They could have come on with a lead..instead they came on trying to hold on to a point,…
When he wants to bring eboue or diaby on i bet he will make an early substiution.He is just clueless.Apparently eboue and diaby give us defensive stability
Arindam. The problem is, we don’t know how serious Rosicky’s injury is.
lucky that this game didn’t come b4 the arsenal shareholders meeting. Wenger could never say shit like goalkeepers are great..
Put as much of a positive spin on this as you like but to be 2 nil up at half time and draw to the second from bottom team is a disgrace.
Blame the ref as much as you like, we were fucking cowards to a man.
love to hear how Diaby still deserves a chance, their first was down to that thick cunt giving away a free kick on the edge of the box.
he is 100% total shit.
anyone want to defend the cunt now?
i don’t think i’ll be able to muster courage to to anything this fukn weekend..so gutted!!i still cant believe it!!
Maciek, I am so pissed off it’s unbelievable…
gowniarstwo…
Please stop over-reaction to players [ala eboue & Diaby] that arent necessary, they did alright [not great]. We drew bcuz Mannone was the one who let them back in the game. Also Arsh was poor & i dont see many complaining, it was never a free-kick for the 1st goal
yah let’s see who defends diaby now
Stonroy, thats the problem
If this was Man Utd Ferguson would be going fucking ballistic.
Wenger is probably in the dressing room giving them all high 5′s and telling them they are [super super] class.
THis match will give a lot of assurance to our rivals that nothing has changed.
Cant even say that its down to inexperience , anymore.
That’s fucking lame blaming the ref for dropping two points. It wasn’t the ref’s decisions that made our lazy players play like they’d already won the game with 30 minutes to go….
Arsene should let some of us fans in the dressing room. Kick their fuking heads in!
“they did alright” ????????????/
fuck yourself…they couldn’t have possibly played a poorer game
The worst thing was even after it became 2-2 wqe hardly showed any urgency
You just know that Diaby will start the North London Derby next weekend…….
He was shit again…… but he is simply un-droppable
Was it just me or did this game mirror the game v AZ not just in the equalizer but in the lackadaisical showing from ALL our players.
Plus whenever we win big there is an update imm. on Arse.com with Wenger’s thought….guess we wait until tomorrow for what he thinks on the official site.
What a fucking embarrassment. We had an off day, but most of the blame has to go on mannone. That was an awful mistake and puts us under pressure.
I also disagree with the obstruction rule. WTF was Diaby supposed to do if he was already there? Politely move out of the fucking way?
“i do not want to kill a career”.
Well you’re killing Arsenal Football Club’s chances of winning anything ffs!
The ref made bad calls but at the same time…..the team should have dealt with it..
The freekick from which they scored was never a foul..Zavon Hines ran into Diaby….there was no way Diaby could have got out of the way…poor decision from the ref….but what the fuck was Manone doing….how did he push it back to the centre of the goal?
Wenger is poor game day manager…after 70 mins with a 2-0 lead I was wondering why he never freshened things up..
And why did he cast Vela away and bring back Nasri?
Nasri is not match fit…Vela is match fit..
I would have started…………Arshy…..RVP……Vela…
I am sure Vela could have played today and Tuesday….and if he was injured surely Eddy or Bendy could have taken over for the CC game……
Wenger is so thick…..doesnt he see that the only way the team is comfortable is when they lead by 3?
FUCCKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How to start a pathetic week
Watch Arsenal play and you will know!!!!!!!
Supergunner have you lost your fucking mind. Diaby has been terrible for us, he’s done 3 good things for Arsenal since he’s been here and one of those was sparking John Terry out. he costs us points and he cost us 2 today.
I never want to see him play for us again. give him away for free to any team that wants him or just fire the cunt outright.
Fabregas should fuck off aswell TBH…
He wants Barca then you can fuck right off there.
Does not preform consistently ever..
RVP will leave for a better club also….
we were on a great run, but against pathetic teams, we were lucky to beat fulham, and now we have been exposed again, can see us winning too many away games if we continue like this
How many points behind chelsea we are, guys?
Ja_gunner-For vela to start wenger has to drop eboue.And you know that won’t happen
I still think we are on a different level from last season though.
But it is the reluctance to go that extra mile that will cost us.
Diaby should not have played today
Nor should Eboue in that position.
And whilst I can’t criticise Wenger on picking Mannone on form, the punching instead of catching has been an accident waiting to happen…..It just happened, and it is the reason he will never make it at the top top level
@ nis
I was thinking the exact same thing. The pace of our passing and movement didn’t quicken after they equal. Its as if scoring so many goals already has zapped them into a false sense of security that they can score whenever they want.
Samir
Sorry that is out of order
Cesc has been a decent fella and always come out and rubbished Barca rumours everytime they come out. Those stories are all Barca baced and does not express the current wishes of Cesc.
We all know he will end up there one day, but at the moment he says he is giving it and I believe he is giving 110% to Arsenal.
the match today highlights what is wrong with the team its called not having a winners mentality the chavs have it,the mancs have it,even the bindippers have it,we dont until he gets /buys expierenced players who will instil it into the team!!
PTG, Mannone just DOES this kind of shit – I have watched him quite a lot in the ressies and he is a fucking liability…
I know this, even my mum (who is a Gooner as well) knows it, why the fuck does Arsene not know this?
You know what the worst thing is?Wenger won’t learn from his mistakes.
If we win out game in hand, I think we’re 2 pts. behind Chelsea.
We need a keeper, unless Fabianski improved over the summer. I noticed mannone can’t deal with powerful shots. I remember him almost palming one into his own net in preseason
Well if that doesn’t show you Song isn’t good enough, Diaby isn’t smart enough and Eboue will never be a midfield player then nothing will.
Wenger will continue to play them and we will win jack shit, you can’t blame the player, he doesn’t pick himself.
Samir. Fabregas can go if he wants. He have got Nasri and Rosicky who can both play there. Robin isn’t as great as almost everyone thinks he is. I would take Villa over him any day.
I am not shocked by the result.this was always on the cards with shit like Diabolical playing.Where the fuck is Vela?Mr Wenger,you are the manager of AFC and you are supposed to win matches for us.Your primary intention is to win matches for Arsenal than try out your wild fantasies by playing w****** like Diabolical.This is not the character of champions.
MARK MY WORDS.WE WILL NEVER WIN ANYTHING WITH PLAYERS LIKE DIABY(EBOUE TO AN EXTENT) TOGETHER ON THE PITCH.
i realy dont care about the perforamce the point his they did not kill the game off,i have both manu and chelsea play alot worse and still comeout with result,its about who won not how well you played alot of time,as for manone i think you need get things to spectective he 21-22 very inexperienced he is not at all he is very good,i dont think there is much dought however that nasri and risicky would have greater impact but the fact still remains they 2-0 and they blew it away
Guys relax, there is no point being stressed out and frustrated. Wenger and his EGO will never change. Why does he always make life hard for us poor souls, as if it wasnt harder already?
samir, your talking shit
Thought we played really well today a good point away from home.Diaby was a rock worked his socks off.Well played boys.
The one thing that was really worrying is the DESPERATE need for a better goalkeeper..!
But the whiny part of me still think that we should have had a penalty early on with upson’s clear handball. And their penalty, it wasn’t one.. That doesnt change the fact that we were still complacent and refusing to finish the game off when we were cruising at 2-0 up.. And eboue at the right, up top, you’ve got to be kidding arsene! 2 points drop when we shouldn’t have!!!
What were wengers excuses?
didnt see any interviews.
paul was that a sarcasm? Surely it is!!
I’m sliding into depression, I watched the match with Pedro and he thought Song was okay.
Perhaps it’s me. I should watch the golf, it doesn’t matter if I think a player is shit, if he is good enough he’ll win, if he isn’t he won’t, can’t argue with that.
Imagine being Arshavin right now, seeing these fucking cunts dropping points every week.
he is probably on the phone to Pep Guardiola as we speak.
I just heard the audio on ATVO, and Wenger said it was not down to complacency – are you fucking kidding me?
Gambon 15:23 – predicted it spot on – Manone should have been dropped after last weeks howler.
Unfortunately he’ll do something like this ever game. Diaby is also a liability. However it wasn’t a good performance by the team as a whole. the coach should have seen the lack of dynamism in the 2nd half and switched to 4-4-2 by bringing Eduardo on earlier and taking of Diaby who contributes nothing to this team as far as I can see.
And Wenger can’t be questioned ever, fucking depressing, I’m off, have a good one all, that’s me done for a while.
Paul – fuck off.
I dont see why people are singling out Diaby….
That freekick was never a foul…..I can see why you guys single out SOng today because he should have just kept tight but he should have known that the player will go down with the slightest touch….thats fucking obviuos….
For today I blame Wenger and Monone/Eboue…..but I blame Wenger…..
when we play Eboue in the front 3 its like we are playing 4-3-2 because in the final third Eboue is horrible….
And I dont think he gives that much defensive cover because he roams all over the pitch…
tbh diaby was not that bad today, manonne cost us 2 points, end of story, wenger is the mug for beleiving he is good enough, i would have dropped him after his mistake against brum
this sucks !!
I admit it, I was wrong. Mannone DID cost us victory today with some proper Sunday league keeping against that free kick.
BUT.
I still wouldn’t start Almunia against spuds next week!
On another note, Diaby, how shit is he!
For a while I thought he was a hammer in disguise all them free kicks he was conceding and possession he was losing. Even HE has said he’s not the next pv so let’s sell him in Jan to a Chanpionship side, were he belongs.
2-2, not happy!
Eboue had a good game today,very dangerous with the ball at his feet,unlucky not to get on the score sheet for us.
I think that is it for Mannone now, Almunia will be back next weekend. arguably with him, we would have won that game today.
Unfortunately it is not the last we will see of Abou “Its like playing with 10 men” Diaby
Please Please Please Arsene, I would rather draw games like that because we gave valuable experience to the likes of Ramsey and Coqueling than watch that lanky streak of piss put in another 90 mins of shite. He is fucking woeful and brings nothing to the game.
I single out Diaby because he’s cost us 5 points so far this season. Not only does he not contribute he actually costs us.
fuck him.
Roy
Almunia has to start next weekend.
Which team does Vela leave to go to then? Cuz obviously Wenger does not want to give him a chance outside of the CC.If he can manage and excel under the pressure of millions of football crazy fans when he represents Mexico and play his part in helping them to WC qualification, I don’t think playing a couple of games against lower level teams in the fucking BPL is gonna expose him as out of his depth..
And Fab4 is playing well shit as well. If he can’t manage our 4-3-3 how the hell is he gonna handle Barcas. He seems unfit to me, like there’s nothing left in the tank.
Gambon??
The problem is who comes in for Mannone?? None of them are good enough.
Literally any other manager would buy a keeper in January, but you just know wenger loves sticking with his failures, cos they show him more loyalty and he can feel like the big man.
We keep talking about our attacking potential.About how many options we have going forward.It doesn’t matter because we are rarely going to see it
its like we were playing with 9 men. Diaby and Eboue…
Carlos Vela situation is puzzling for me
he is a full international for mexico and am sure he can walk in too many teams with his ability
and wenger does not play him at all, we get used to seeing eboue in the attacking 3
what confidence does that show to players like wilshire, vela and ramsey
Dennis – the AKB’s have to blame the ref.
It’s their last port of refuge in a desperate attempt to remain in denial and stick to their guns and previous declarations of Wenger love.
And do you know something
when the Man Shitty v Fulham final score came through, i said to the bloke I was watching the game with, “That is why I dont consider them to be genuine challengers”
Then we go and do the same thing.
I have been impressed with Arsenal this season, but today is more dissapointing that either of the results we got in Manchester.
So bloody depressing supporting Arsenal……
how can we even see our game in hand as 3 points, we have to earn it first, these pussies will get raped against better teams, no question
I know every ones pissed off quick joke
two oaps having oral sex.He says “I cant stay down there ,it stinks”
She says”Its my arthritis” “What in your fanny?”
“No in me arm; i cant wipe me arse”
Jaguar mate. I’ve said the same before. But I think it’s all down to Wenger as he is the one who created this team.He is to blame and with him in charge. We win nothing. At least Graham’s teams knew how to defend two goals lead.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5652250,00.html?
Plenty of oppurtunities in the second half?Was he even watching the match
liverpool only 1 point behind us
Worst thing is that spurs will beat us next week as well.
why??? ummmmmmmmmmmm…
cuz
1. he’s a cunt
2. he gets some sort of unique pleasure in giving away possession
3.he can’t head to save his life
4.he’s a cunt
5.he’s lazy
6.he’s slow
7.gives away free kicks
8.did i mention he’s a cunt???
Heh Paulinho, yeah baby, give it to them hard.
Cesc looks tired we should try Diaby as captain for a while
this is just fucking unbelievable – AW will continue playing his useless favourites with gems like Vela and Merida sitting on the bench or not even making the squad – how on earth can you keep an ‘undroppable’ player on his toes?
this not only makes the player in question think ‘fuck, I’m good’, but also sends out the wrong message to the rest of them – here’s Wenger’s shit man management for you…
Wenger is just unbelievable sometimes
most teams will love to be 2 nil up and keep at it we just love to sit back and be arrogant
thats the problem we think we too good.. when we not even earned that respect yet
the invincibles were good but everyone knows our weakness at the moment
i totally blame wenger for not making the right subs at the right time. also not getting the players in th eright mentality its him who needs to kick them up the arse and tell them what’s expected of them at 2-nil up. All this talk of experience… FUCK THAT! once something has happened to you once , then you learn from it how many times would u keep sticking your hands in a fire if you got burned the first time. Either wenger isnt holding them accountable for their actions, or they just dont give a fuck and will keep doing it
Pat. I respect Your view but aside from 6:1 trashing against Everton we weren’t so great this season. 13 goals in 9 matches? Our defensive play is shocking as always. As ALWAYS.
@ Geoff, Song had a good game, i am more pissed off that once the free-kick is wrong awareded, Mannone has got to palm it away from goal, basic mistake thus letting WHAM get a sniff. We need better concentration from every player not just defenders
I just hope Stan is a ruthless cunt when he takes over, and he tells Arsene he’s finished at the club.
Stubborn cunt!
Diaby hurts us more then helps us…
-Utd own goal
-Giving away free kicks needlessly
-Giving away free kicks in dangerous areas needlessly
-He told the press he isnt nearly as good or strong as Patrick Viera
Mannone isn’t good enough. Lets see how Fabianski does against Liverpool. Its him or Almunia against the Spuds next week
SUGA, it obvious he has his favourites. He always had.
Every team knows they can get something out of a game with us. West ham are FUCKING WOEFUL and they came back at us from 2 goals down. Spurs will fucking murder us, they are 10 times the team that West ham are right now.
theres no fear factor playing us. we can be 2 or 3 goals ahead and concede 3 in 10 minutes.
I’m so fucking angry.
thaatarsenalguy,
Its not even about substitutions. My saturday league team couldnt throw away as many leads as this team does.
Yet Arsene just wont do a thing about it. He’s a cunt.
“I believe we had many disadvantages in the game but overall we played a good game and unfortunately we couldn’t finish the third goal off.
“We had plenty of opportunities in the second half and in the end when the other team comes back to 2-1 and any little decision goes against you, you can pay for it.”
fuck off wenger just fuck off..you and your good for nothing duo just destroyed my week
sack the board!!
from what i swa of the game diaby played ok but it seams every time we drop points or lose its always diaby,eboue or songs fault which i think ist shame because i think all 3 played quite well but they juts switched off for little bit throwing away all there hard work they need work on there concentration at times but they worked very hard played very well
blame the manager….the likes of Cesc and Ardshavin are broken because of playing with the mediocrity of Diaby, Mannone, Song and Eboue, they are just not ready!
Supergunner, Mannone is fucking shit and what pisses me off the most is that he is standing in Szczesny’s way – I’m betting dollars against cow dung that he would not make such stupid mistake – scroll up, you will see that I commented that Mannone was a bag of nerves, he is just too fuck-up prone and playing him in a derby game is a joke…
Cesc and Arshavin have their minds elsewhere, it seems
Luke. It won’t happen mate. You do know, Arsene has got a job for life. Enjoy another 13 yeasr of this crap.
manone has been pushing free kicks the same way for weeks. he was an accident waiting to happen. how come every top team has a world class keeper but us. its the lazy we have this match won disrespect for the opposition that sickens me. i feel we got wat we deserved, u cant win a title with eboue in midfied, the slow song, the lazy diaby and a shit keeper in ur first 11.how wasted is arshavin out on the left?criminal wenger
Cesc and arshavin look totally different when they have rosicky next to him.Thank god nasri is back.He will be a great substitute
Maciek, my point is that having unmerited favourites in a result oriented business is just fucking unprofessional…
Maciek
your opinion buddy and you are entitled to it, and it is good to hear what fellow gooners think.
But I think we are playing at a different level this year. We are much much better, but we have to stop using sentinment for team selection.
God knows how Diaby continues to get starts, he really is anonymous in games, yet because he is tall, it somehow justifies giving him a starting spot, even though he will explode if he ever takes both feet off the ground (Only excuse for his inability to jump)
At 2-0 I though its not vintage but winning games like this are key to winning the league.
Conceding goals like that is inexcusable.
We are better but I think what frustrates me is that days like today are avoidable, and yet we get sucked in. Even at 2-0 I bet most of us just knew we would concede at least 1
all this bollocks about Cesc and Arshavin having their minds on barca is crap too. even if it was true they would still want to play well, stupid thing to say.
“couldnt finish the third goal off”
Or how about just keeping it at 2-0 Wenger you CUNT!!
He literally doesnt have a clue what defence is.
lol leon…which match did ya watch?
Can’t really say I’m surprised by the result. I hope now that we can all see that last seasons catastrophy had fuck all to do with players like Ade. The reality is that Wenger continues his shocking team selection and tactics. Everbody was so fucking lazy. A result like this would never happn under Red Nose.
nishanth
I am hoping he will be in the starting eleven rather than a sub.
WHAT an erroe by mannone. 2 weeks in a row he gifts the opposition the goal. This puts an even greater importance on the NL derby. We need to win
SUGA. With Wenger in charge we will never see Wojtek in our goal.I’m talking about the Premiership.
i dont know what was worse, the result, the performance, or our deluded manager trying to convince us that we played well today.
quote – “ven at 2-0 I bet most of us just knew we would concede at least 1″ ….SPOT ON mate!
.
Leon, I think the difference is with the likes of Cesc, Arshavin etc, they may well have a poor game, but they still have the quality to change a game in an instance.
With Diaby, he does fuck all week in week out and somehow gets picked week in week out.
Mourinho was right 100% – Wenger needs to get a toe up his arse, PHW talking bollocks like Wenger cannot be criticised does exactly the opposite…
Colonel Mustard,
Awesome name.
But yes i agree, at any point in a game we are on the brink of conceeding a goal and its pathetic.
you made me crack up in your post at 18:48 gambon but you are right when we fuck up and annoying pricks try sweeting up there is no need for it, they are just wind ups!
what an opportunity to gain some points on the rest too. Wouldnt you think the team would play their bollocks off for the whole match? wouldnt you think Wenger would make some subs early enough to make a difference?
so fucking pathetic.
Yeah choy i am hoping too.But then for that diaby has to go out.Can’t see that happening.Why did he even have nasri on the bench today.
WTF is Vela?Cant believe that Mr.Diaby/eboue deserves a start ahead of Vela.FFS,Mr Arsene start our bestb players,not YOUR favourites.
sorry but its realy pissing me off everybody jumping bangwagon on diaby and worse thing about he played quite well both him and eboue there passing went astray at times but they worked realy hard,aa played quite poorly by his standerds but no one ever sais anything about that just once try to be abit objective
I hope Diaby does go out.Theres another way the cunt has cost us this season, he took one of our better players out in training.
He’ll start agains spurs though and we will lose.
Leon if you are seriously going to defend Diaby then you are out of your mind.
And your posts are mostly unreadable by the way.
Arsene Wenger Diary: Personal Repertoire of Excuses
1) “I believe we had many disadvantages in the game but overall we played a good game and unfortunately we couldn’t finish the third goal off.
“We had plenty of opportunities in the second half and in the end when the other team comes back to 2-1 and any little decision goes against you, you can pay for it.”
leon, diaby was ok, but eboue was embarrassing, how can you say he played quite well?
leon, yes they are ok BUT when you have Van persie, ardshavin, cesc, vermalen, gallas etc. is it fair on them to have OK? They are just not good enough and everything they try to do turns to much eventually. Think if we had two quality defensive midfielders when them. and yes I could name 10…
leon, point is that there are better skilled and more intelligent players available, yet he does get full 90 minutes week in week out…
so yes, fuck Diaby – let him fuck off to a club where he will get his wish to play in the hole…
can’t blame Eboue, he was average at best in RM, now he was asked to play in the front 3…
Patthegooner. Thanks for a good word. Still 13 goals in 13 matches is SHOCKING and we still can’t defend. We have got only one great defender in our team and he was bought this summer. I’m tired of this crap. Once again we have failed. We are so fragile.Maybe it’s time to give Senderos a chance?
turns to mush even…
2) I believe that this is a young side and when you are young , you leran all the way and dont believe that winning is most important
*in 9 matches.
It’s a fucking open comment section people can say what they want, loads of people talk shit all the time, if we told everyone to fuck off when they disagreed with something or tried to be snide about AKB bullshit, you wouldn’t have site worth visiting.
If all you want is someone to jerk you off whille you type your opinions out, I’m sure therte’s loads of other sites for that.
sad thing is diaby will be first name on teamsheet vs. Spuds…
“what an opportunity to gain some points on the rest too. Wouldnt you think the team would play their bollocks off for the whole match?”
and that shows that they don’t have winning mentality
What’s funny is that you always get people coming on saying others are overreacting when we lose goals like we did against Alkmaar.
These guys totally miss the point. Because games like today totally back up what we’re talking about. It’s called bad habits, or in our case, just plain retardness and lack of brain cells.
He didnt though Leon
once again I hardly even realised that Diaby was playing. He is not good enough and we have better options on the bench.
You are right AA did not have a great game, but he is a great player, and like I said, he has the ability to provide one second of magic in 90 mins that wins a game. Diaby does not have that ability.
Diaby is like a shit curry house, where your vindaloo is constantly under cooked, and your popadoms are soft, yet because you know the owner you keep buying it.
Arshavin is your Chicken Tikka where 4 out of 5 times you have a great curry, but on the odd occaision the chef is having an off day and you get the shits.
In all fairness our defenders are really talented.Except maybe clichy.But then we can’t defend as a team.
SUGA. It won’t happen. Arsene has his job for life.
Fucking shit shitvestre ahead of Senderos.Mr Wenger open your eyes and see that there is a world beyond France and shits like Diabolical and Silvestre.Disgrace,.
well say goodbye to vela in january although he’s left footed he will want to fuck off and i for one will not blame him.
without him or walcott we have no pace up front and i’m afraid the eboue experiment on the wing is a fucking joke.
what do vela, wilshere, merida, ramsey , think when they watch shit players like eboue and diaby play in front of them every week.
i’m afraid the waiter will walk back into goal for the spud game ,
i for one would play ramsey or nasri in front of diaby and never want to see eboue play wide right again,
well here we go its groudhog day again for us with stupid players making stupid mistakes
3)We have a lot of injuries this season and still we gave them a hard game. i believe there is hunger ,desire and passion.
i dunno..this draw hurts more than the manchester games..we’re 3rd , actually second if we consider our game in hand won but it just erodes that trust which had developed………….probably the only positive is that we have nasri n rosicky r back , but then they have to be chosen ahead of “certain” players if they are to make an impact
leon Says:
October 25, 2009 at 19:03
from what i swa of the game diaby played ok but it seams every time we drop points or lose its always diaby,eboue or songs fault which i think ist shame because i think all 3 played quite well but they juts switched off for little bit throwing away all there hard work they need work on there concentration at times but they worked very hard played very well
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Spot on
aa, i am going by what see on the pitch and he played ok today he and was not to blame for draw,he is not best player at arsenal but you cant keep blaming him each and everything that goes wroung,i would expected alot more from aa and fab
Right that is me for the night.
Loads to do, but I leave you with this.
Today was the most dissapointing result of the season so far.
Jaguar, my point exactly – when Gallas appeared to be injured, I thought ‘oh fuck, why is Silvestre on the bench and not Senderos?’ – why oh why?
Wenger is not capable of a hairdryer moment and that is exactly what this bunch of cotton-wooled, pampered girls needs, IMO – why not learn from what happened to Ade when he realised he was undroppable?
I hope Vela leaves the club…..
Wenger talks up his players so much and then does not play them…..
I can understand not playing Bendy or Eddy because they just came off injuries….but why the fuck was Vela not even in the squad?
We could have played Vela……RVP……Arshavin….
Can you imagine what Arshy was thinking when he was in the box and Eboue smashed the ball thoughtlessly into row Z?
I would have subbed Eboue right after that incident….
Diaby played ok today
Wenger drops Vela and brings back Nasri who was
1. Definitely not match fit
2. He had no intention of using him
Arshavin could have played better…..but the point is Wenger has players and wont fucking using them
Vela leave the club for your own good!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wenger’s PM reactions wont be complete without the words Hunger,desire and passion.
No league in 6 years then!
For a team that hasn’t won a trohpy in 4 years we should be showing a lot more desire and hunger.
Now that I have calmed down I would like to apologize for my swearing lol…
Please Geoof, can we add a column names list of excuses of our great Arse-ne.
Then we can easily refer to what is being used frequently as a excuse and then can play a contest where the one who guesses the right excuse of the game win. That way we wont be as pissed as now.
All hail the Great Arsene for his Motivational Skill because of whom we were able to drop only 2 points against mighty West Ham.
Supergunner, this is a relegation fodder we are talking about – we gave them hard game, blah, blah, blah: we should be pissing all over them and leaving their players and fans in serious need of psychiatric help, ffs…
Why are we paying Wenger £6m a year, If we want to win nothing and throw away leads we could pay Paul Ince £500k pa,
Sorry Geoff
Wenger’s PM reactions wont be complete without the words Hunger,desire and passion.
Which were absent today
I really can’t understand why wenger doesn’t play vela instead of eboue.Wish someone had asked that during AGM.When i stressed this point after AZ game many told me about the defensive stability that eboue gives us
Mayank,its incredible to see that you have turned out to be an Arsene basher from an AKB,overnight.
gambon Says:
October 25, 2009 at 19:26
Why are we paying Wenger £6m a year, If we want to win nothing and throw away leads we could pay Paul Ince £500k pa,
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Great one that Gambon!
I’m sure any
I’m sure any of us here could have done a better job managing the team today than Wenger…..
first of all diaby DID NOT have an “ok” game..and even if did , “ok” aint good enough..the guy is anonymous through out the game…all he does apart from giving away possession is –
1.lose headers
2.pass the ball back to fabregas
3.lose all physical battles against players he really shouldnt
4.exude an air of utter clumsiness in everything he does
and EBooooooooooooooooo playing for us is obviously a miracle…a miracle for him!!
Diaby doesnt lose headers because he doesnt go for them in the first place.
It was quite funny that Wenger tried his best to act like nothing untoward happened after the game.
He knows that if he publicly admits to the team “lacking a little bit maturity” again then he will be a laughing stock, especially when he’s only said it about 25,000 times already.
So he’s trying to give it the old “nothing to see here” routine. lol.
i wish people would stop taking the piss out of leons posts? you know what he is trying to say but sometimes he finds it difficult to put into words, argue with him by all means but dont take the piss!!
Dont say that Diaby lose headers.I have seen two of his best headers,one against United at OT,and a lesser fruitful one against AZ away.
Now Liverpool will have confidence…..this might end up being a horrible 9 days or so…
Benitez will play a relatively strong team against us in the CC because he will want to keep a winning momentum…
I guess this will be Benitez’s lineup against us
………………..Reina…………………..
Johnson……….Skrtel……….Agger………….Dossena
……………Aquliani…….Spearing………………..
Babel…………….Voronin………………..Aurelio
…………………..Ngog………………………..
Something like that
I hope the kids can beat them
We dont have the winning mentality so even if we do have a better bunch of players than most other teams it doesnt really matter because when push comes to shove we just panic and as we saw tonight we cave.
second that, reggie…
Diaby played “OK” for his standards only….
“Absolutely SHIT” in any other CM’s standards….
After watching the Liverpool game before ours I can’t believe why people say we play the most exciting football….. That’s a thing of the past….. With Wenger in charge we play crap with his line ups!!
Lucas tore up Man United today, Banayoun also….
We lose 2-1 V the scum…..
reggie57 – you have a heart of gold, hopefully you weren’t being sarcastic. heh
Whos takin the piss Reggie?
Sorry Jaguar, you are mistaken. The one that you are referring to might still be an Arsene admirer. I am a much older fella here who occasionally blogs than the recent ” Mayank” guy
Still i think Arse-ne is shit …he doesn’t have the right attitude
wouldnt this have been the perfect weekend???
anyway m off..to read some quotes on how to muster courage during times of adversity…nite gooners!! let’s try n keep some faith!!
Can’t wait for someone to come out and throw diaby and eboue’s stats
No im not being sarcastic Keyser
Hope Nasri will come back soon.
Apologies mayank.Mayank,who posts here regularly,is very close to being an AKB follower.
faith is supposed to do miracles and I have a lot of faith in our bunch of players, but I just don’t have any faith in Arsene being reasonable and picking his best team and THAT is a problem…
I wonder what kind of pep talk he give to the team…is it the same thing he always said on public or something else..
i think people need to bear in mind that vela has only played 1 season in england and wenger has no intebtions in rushing him plus he will most defenatly be plaing in carling cup game its just abou being patient he is only 19/20.this game was not going besame as playing at home all the same we were away should have won,but this nonense about no desier and no heart sorry a off switching yes.but its still early in the season and they can learn from thi sbut does does that mean dm player i dont know a bit of lack experience possibly
Again I say Carlos Vela…….leave Arsenal…..Wenger does not trust/rate you…………..
Its a fucking lie that Eboue gives us defensive stability……..we conceded didnt we?
And when he plays forward he does not keep to hisside at all he is all over the pitch..popping up into positions in which he is useless……
CARLOS LEAVE ARSENAL
WENGER DOESNT RATE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
I MEAN THEO,EDDY AND BENDY ALL INJURED AND YOU STILL CANT GET A START…..
WHAT THE FUCK IS WENGER SHEILDING VELA FROM?….HE HAS PLAYED IN THE WORLD CUP QUALIFIERS UNDER INTENSE PRESSURE AND HE HAS HELPED HIS COUNTRY REACH THE WORLD CUP SAFELY.
WENGER YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DONT PLAY EBOUE AS RIGHT FORWARD EVER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!
AND WTF was Sagna doing RM for the first half????
Are we taking the piss or what?
What is wrong with being an AKB if that’s what you believe.
@ SUGA3, all i am saying stop blaming players who did nothing wrong, once the free-kick is given, we have concentrate thats why i apportioned alot of the blame to Mannone, terrible GKing, basics palm shots outwide if you cant catch.
I am annoyed as well but when you see idiots start commenting how we should buy 10 players then it makes me think are they bunch of 10 yr olds. Like i said before Arsh was our worst player on the pitch but Ebo & Lanky are getting the blame for what [free-kick that never was], people should be objectve instead covering their eyes with tinted glasses.
I AM SURE VELA COULD HAVE PLAYED TODAY AND ALSO TUESDAY AND IF NOT WE WOULD HAVE BENDY AND EDDY READY TO COME IN FOR THE CC GAME…..
SIMPLE AS THAT
A draw against spurs and we will have the same points we had last season.With diaby and eboue there is no flow to our game.No tempo.Poor RVP is upfront getting absolutely no service
Sagna spent so much time in the oppo half because Eboue was always coming inside and staying there giving Sagna all the space to roam into.
Paul – belief is one thing, harmful delusion is another: yes, Arsene made us strong financially, but most of the fans are not shareholders and do not give a fuck that we have 70 million quid tucked away, do they?
it is a result business and we are not getting any…
Also it is really annoying that they don’t show many replays during our games.
Agree with you Ja gunner.
Merida and Vela should leave and leave Arsene to his french-African fetishes. He must be particularly enamoured with their unique gormless expressions.
Personally I think most of the team were shit and don’t blame diaby etc. But I think Wenger could hav ebrough Dudu and Bendtner on much earlier when we looked likely to throw it away. I think Wenger has to shoulder the blame for this. Dropping Mannone won’t solve anything as Almunia is no better.
When Wenger decided not to spend in the summer – he opted out of winning trophies. This is a Wenger trait. He always leaves himself short of quality players – hence the number of 2nd places in his managerial career.
Actualy it is a mental weakness. He makes the same mistake season after season.
I have said it before – DIRECTOR of FOOTBALL to buy the players Wenger wont. No wonder he didnt go to Madrid. Either that or Gazidis has got to force him to buy players in Jan.
Except for the First two games of the season diaby has started in every single game.Shocking indeed.Atleast for the sake of giving him a rest drop him
Looking forward to the game against Liverpool.Hopefully we will see Nasri,Vela,Jack and Nikki now thats mouth watering.May have a spare ticket in club level if anyone is interested.
I have a feeling that wenger is gonna keep playing diaby(shite) just the sake of ‘physical presence’ and for the plain reason that he is tall therefore balancing out the midfield, which is really ridiculous as diaby doesnt provide any of it. For a tall player he is awfully bad at heading too! And eboue… how can arsene play him all the time, this time being up top, when he was so close to selling him in the summer! Eboue is not at all versatile!
I’m getting nervous for the spuds game next week. Last year’s 4-4 draw was the worst game experience ever! fingers cross that lennon will still be injured by next week..
I will not say replace 10 players, I will only second what Cesc and AA are saying: 2 players short of domination, and these players happen to be a class GK and a replacement for Diaby who is not a CM and (with his natural position being SS) is a surplus to requirements…
thing is no one wants to buy this wanker, and Wenger will continue with this square peg nonsense at the expense of yet another season…
Evening guys and gals, I would like to bring a girls view to the table…
This morning I was very scepticle about the game today, and truly believed we would draw. Then I listened to you fine folk here and had a lot more confidence and had faith that we would win…
I am not an AKB, but I don’t think AW is to blame for today. Just like against AZ we (who on paper whould have torn WH apart) turned up at Upton Park already believing the three points were in the bag.
I dont like seeing Diaby start, or Eboue unless he is RB, but that side should have destroyed WH after going 2-0 up – but no, they thought the game was over, took the foot off the gas and just about secured a draw.
We can all slate Eboue, diaby, Song, and others, and trust me, I do, but so many players today should go home and think ‘long and hard’ (
) about their own performances today….
ja
vela just needs to patient he is only 19-20 he this only second season and you have admitt both edwardo,rvp nikki b are ahead of him i dont want him go dont say thing like that
I saw an interview the other day where Wenger said he wants to manage arsenal for “many more years to come”….
She asked him will we be having another interview similar on your 70th birthday and he said “Of course not” She said When will you be leaving then??
Wenger replied “I will be here in the next game. And after that the next”. (In his gay French accent)
Wenger is getting a bit old now…..
This is the last season for him IMO. If he delivers nothing once again he HAS to go.
carlton cole summed it up. hard work. west ham worked their socks off. something we are incapable off. thats wy we will win fuck all ,simple
Arshavin was pants as well
Hi Rico
It’s much livelier on here when we don’t win!
I can understand vela having to be patient if he has rosicky or arshavin as competetion.But the fact that he can’t get into the side because of eboue is a joke
GM, Almunia is – unfortunately – our best keeper, he just had a dip in form caused by family problems…
to say that Almunia is no better than Mannone is ridiculous, but that is your opinion
SUGA, we need more than 2. A gk, a new, quality central defender, a cdm and a winger.
Who shall we get Samir and how many seasons without a trophy can that person have?
Agree Paulinho…..Merida should leave as well…because reserve football wont get them anywhere..
I think Merida should be on loan quite frankly…
Also I just doent see why Wenger brought Nasri with him when he had no intention of using him..at the same time allowing Vela to rot away in London….
I mean if Vela cant get a start when 3 forwards are injured/not 100% …he might as well leave and get games elsewhere….
And its also possible that Merida will not start the CC game because Nasri will be back…..so Merida will be off soon as well….
The only way Merida will get a game is if Nasri plays as one of the front 3
SUGA
Almunia get’s slated on here the whole time. Mannone has been playing ok. We didn’t lose the game because of him.
Hi GM, I have noticed that
AA was dreadful, I am starting to think he does want to go to Barca, and can’t believe his comments this week about Spurs…. Is he just another Anelka or Reyes ??
Vela is fucking class and if he has an ounce of brain he should tell Wenger to play him or go fuck himself…
I think he’s a lazy cunt sometimes (notice I’m using the local language) Some of the shit he’s saying is bad.
Vela should go and sit on madrid’s bench
GM, the fact that we didn’t lose the game with him in goal is just a technicality, IMO – if he played for opposition or any other team, I’d piss myself laughing, but the joke’s on us in this case, which is unacceptable…
Again I say I can understand Vela not playing if
Eddy, Bendy, Theo, Nasri & Rosicky are all fit
But all these guys were injured/not100% and Vela still cant get a start?
Eboue…right forward? Square pegs round holes once again.
I meant we didn’t draw the game BECAUSE of him.
Vela needs games at this age and he is not getting many with us, despite dazzling performances for club and country, yet we continue playing second rate players like Diaby, who will never be good enough…
saw a post-AZ interview with him and his attitude fucking stinks – all too well known Ade-like ‘oh well’…
being the best mates with Diarra says it all…
I have more confidence in the kids of the CC than I have in the senior team atm. At least we know that in an attacking capacity they will play ball. I’m not saying we will win but the display going forward will not be as lazy and unprofessional as our last 2 displays.
The most annoying thing today was the subs.
West hams subs got them the point. Hines and Diamante.
But with Wenger he didnt even wait til the 70th minute like usual. The first sub wasnt until they equalised and then Eduardo came on for a whole 3 minutes. We might as well as not even bring any subs because its not like they are gonna have enough time to make a telling impact.
Ja gunner,completely agree with you..
I dont think wenger practices what he preach. He says he believes in playing kids and how he has 100% confident in his kids but when the crunch time comes, he opt for the coward tactic of playing an older right back as one of his strikers. He could have brought on eduardo earlier to but choose to bring him on only on the 88th minute. what the hell is eduardo supposed to do with only 4 mins on the pitch.
yes we did, GM – no GK should ever do what he did, it’s bread and butter stuff in goal: I’d rather play half fit Fabianski or Szczesny rather that this clown…
goonermichael, If we win NOTHING again this season (looks likely) wouldn’t you want Wenger out? He has some great players at his disposal and chooses not to use them.
He leaves his substitutions to late EVERY game 65-70 mins usually.
Or 90 mins like today!!
I would chose a former player. Someone Arsenal through and through….
Bergkamp maybe???
He might take to it like Josep Guardiola did???
Rico
I do, but so many players today should go home and think ‘long and hard’ (
) about their own performances today….
Good shout, I think you are right there.
I just think the whole bloomin team are to blame…
GM – I am sick of reading his comments to be honest, tax, mancs, barca – Audrey, you play for Arsenal, they pay your wages, please keep quiest!!!
5 going 6 seasons without a trophy at ARSENAL FC is taking the mikey tbh……
i feel if vela does not get more playing next season he will be off,i can understand the first few season wenger being cortious with him not wanting rush him,bit in this game we were 2 goals ahead should have been more than enough realy
Samir, surely you mean 4 going on 5.
Still, if we win out game in hand, we’re 2 pts. off the leaders. The good news is that all the games we’ve lost or drawn could have been prevented. Better get these out of the way now then at the end of the season. What a fucking heartbreaker though. We need a win against the SPurs.
Almunia
Sagna Gallas Verm Clichy
Cesc Song Nasri
Rosicky RVP Arshavin
Go for broke. I want to see a brave selection from Wenger.
Was Vela even on the bench today?
thanks pat
If Arsene doesn’t let the players know that hes angry about this result then some of the dim ones will believe his rubbish about playing well and being unlucky.
patthegooner i mean
leon – Vela will be off in the summer at best if he does not get games, it’s as simple as that, so will Merida…
if he does not get to play against a bottom three team at 2:0 up when the game is more open for him to dazzle, he never will…
yes sorry Stu.. :S
Don’t know how I came to that…
Marco van Basten. He could be a great manager at Arsenal!
No Stu but Silvestre is on the bench
just going ahead of yourself Samir, eh?
‘judge me in 2 years’
What would Wenger say in 2 years if he still has won nothing?
It would be quite interesting…
Wenger is just frustrating with his tactical ineptitude and over cautious approach with subs…
great tactician? fuck me, whenever the game gets tough, he is found out of his depth, again, no plan B…
Judge me in two years,four years,six years,eight years,For fucks sake.
We arguably had a better attack on the bench than we did on the pitch.
Why put Nasri on the bench if you arent going to bring him on? Same for the others. Bendtner and Eduardo came on but far too late to do anything.
Vela could have come on if gallas or Vermy got injured
Arshavin speaks his mind – frustrating as it may be, fella is right: he came here from a place where he was a total superstar and thought he was making a step up to win bigger and better things, now he sees that this will not happen with certain individuals being undroppable…
If a CB was injured Song could just move back and put another midfielder on.
Its pointless even having Silvestre on the bench.
Maybe he should fuck off then
Just got home & to be honest, I’m not suprised.
What I am is genuinely scared for, is next week & when we have to play the chavs.
This team is clearly no where as good as the hype.
Anyone out there still blinded to think we can win a title or have no problem being top 4 with a permutation of a rookie keeper & a midfield of Song Eboue & the useless misfit are clearly deluded like our manager.
Our only hope is he has recognised this & finds another 2 Vermaelen’s.
I will leave you all to debate the day……
But don’t fall out
GM, if Gallas or Vermy got injured we have fucking Silvestre as a backup with Big Phil in limbo (neither 1st team nor reserves) – how do you explain that?
GM, he should not fuck off, team should be built around good players, not cack ones…
ahhh, what the hell…
HATTRICK
Bendtner looked good when he came on.
Should have been:
———-Mannone——–(Been good up til now)
Eboue–Gallas–Vermy–Clichy
———Song———–
—Fabregas–Arshavin—–
Bendtner–RVP–Eduardo
point taken stu. But if song goes off as well. Silvetsre can cover centre back and left back that’s why he’s on the bench.
Wenger has said he believes we’ll win a trophy.
We will, The Ladies are still the best.
i dont think so suga,i feel players like ramsey,vela,wiltshire and merida are fullyy awear that he will have to patient in big team like arseanl and other players who ahead of him the fact is right now edwardo,rvp,nasri,aa and risicky are ahead of vela and i dont think you can at point in this time vela is better option than either of them,eboue is more experienced tham him,wenger will use him in craling cup games but he is lower in pecking order and wil have prove him self that goes for merida as well
I don’t hear Torres talking shit all the time and he’s in a shit team with a shit manager.
We should have just started anyone that can capably use a football. That rules out Diaby and Eboue…what a suprise.
Silvestre can’t cover shit, GM – he is old and slow which brings nervousness (as if we did not have it in abundance already) to the team – left back? you’re having a laugh, he would get raped by any half decent winger…
That reminds me. I missed most of the last 10minutes because the stream went down.
Did Song get booked? Hopefully he did.
I didn’t say he was any good and I think he’s useless I was saying why he was on the bench.
I would rather have bought Hyypia than have Silvestre.
If we had dropped points with Vela on the pitch I would be ok…
But when I saw Eboue beat his man and then dispatch the ball into row Z I was very upset……
At 2-0 why didnt Wenger make some changes?
He should have got Eboue off switched Arshy to the right and put Eddy on the left….
Why did he wait until they equalised to react….
Even at 2-1……he only sent on Bendnter…..why not just make a double change?
Don’t think so Stu
He didn’t Stu
Torres is a pussy, AA is a man, here’s the difference for you, GM…
On that note I’ll see you all later. Have fun
Fuck sake Song! Idiot cant even get a tactical booking! What the fuck!
AA speaks up because he isnt afraid of what might happen him. Torres is just a very quiet person and doesnt want to upset anyone.
We would be better playing with ten men than having shitty wankers like Diabolical and Shitvestre.
funny (in a horrible way) how many comments are having a go (and quite right too) at the usual suspects and yet the team doesn’t even have Denilson in it-a couple of injuries and we cant be far away from having a midfield of; Diaby,song,denilson,eboue-id rather eat my own face than watch that.
If the Feeble Four get even close to as many games as they had last year we will drop out of that top 4 as the competition has improved.
We drop out of that 4 and the futures of robin,cesc,arshavin are very much up for debate.
It makes the Spurs game MASSIVE next week but today was such a good opportunity-shows the lack of mental character wenger usually loves to praise so much and lack of leadership within our team.
point of having subs on the bench is being able to have a more or less adequate replacement for any player on the field and in this sense he is a fucking waste of space – and on 2 year contract over 30 for that matter, which makes my blood boil when I remind myself how Bobby was treated…
Ibrahimovich just scored a hell of a freekick….
Thats another thing we need a some players to go practice their set pieces for crying out loud…
Is it that hard to go the training ground erect some walls and practice direct free kicks?
This teams going bloody backwards….
We havent had a capable free kicker since Henry left.
to be honest we realy have seen silvest play that much we saw at end of last season when most of time he was warming the bench i have said this several times 4th choice defender i dont see him as competition for 1st and 2nd defender is last choice so you cant expect the same kind performaces you are not going et top quality squad player who is willing warm bench 90% of season maybe the whole season
The team’s going backwards? Since when. last week, last month. last season the invincibles?
My daughter’s watching 3 talentless mingers raping love don’t live here anymore
leon – he is not good enough to be a 10th choice at the club of our stature, simple as…
but OK, he was probably bought to be Gallas’ mate, fair enough, but why is he keeping Senderos out of the team when the latter needs games?
someone please explain
Question, why the hell is Sebastien Frey not at the club. He is French and he is quality. I dont even care that he is cup tied, with this team confidence as strong as glass then I don’t think when the likes of Barca step forward and apply pressure we will last.
Frey in January window, Almuina out to wherever couldn’t care less
i think wengers time is up. hes obsessed with pretty, perfect football. i think he got lucky when the first few years at arsenal as we had already the meanest defence in football.we also had grafting parlour, wrighty and genius bergy. the foundations were there. now we are stuck with a load of overpaid pussies who have won nothing and think they can go on to a pitch and show no respect for teams like west ham and az and expect those teams to roll over. this mentality has been a disease in this team for a few years now. wenger seems incapable of doing anything about it.this is a team of bottlers. the evidence is there. i could write it down the amount of times this lot have bailed out in big matches etc but i,ll be here all night. a new manager and a complete rethink of this playing kids and playing people out of positions is needed badly. we will win nothing with this lot
Not seen much of Frey but he cant be an worse than what we already have.
I just hope Fabianski is fit in time for tuesday and next weekend because Mannone is just killing our chances.
thing is, Wenger is playing a jolly good uncle – players are not stupid and know there will be no proper backlash, hence some of them just don’t give a shit…
Actually I hope Wenger plays Almunia against Liverpool in the CC….
He needssome match practice..we cant just throw him in there against Tottenham….
Why should we play Fabianski and then play Almunia against Tottenham….for me which ever keeper plays against Liverpool should play against Tottenham
is it the time to start the silly season yet?
Diaby and Mannone can fuck right off, we need another CB (Sakho?), DM (Matuidi?) & world class international GK must be brought in, but this is just not going to happen, is it?
Thats a bit harsh nn to say Wenger only won things because of luck. He but together the invincibles team. Really it was only Keown and Bergkamp was part of that team that Wenger didnt buy.
yes Stu, but Keown was the one to make the defence tick, he also did great job as defensive coach, but Wenger must have fallen out with him, right?
Victoria Concordia Crescit, my arse – it is all about building Wenger’s monument in the shape of stadium and chasing pipe dreams like winning CL on a shoestring…
No wonder Gallas cried and sat down on the pitch against Birmingham..
Coming from a winning Chav team Gallas knows what is required and he can see his teamamtes dont have it…that is why he spoke out and got stripped of the captaincy..
As you guys say it seems the culture at the club has become a bottling culture…because Manure etc are low on quality now but are living off a winning attitude
Wenger seems like a bottler too..what else would explain the cowardice of playing Eboue as a forward when you have Vela fully fit and rearing to go?
Stu:
Wenger used to have real men in his team.
Keown didnt even play in the invincibles team tho. He only just about got the 10 appearances. Its not like he was the main defender we had.
Stu you need to realise that wenger is a useless cunt who’s never done anything. He’s thick and he even gave me herpes. Sometimes it’s painful coming on here.
And Suga Arshavin can fuck off with them if he doesn’t like it. It’s actually the pussies that whinge like old ladies all the time. Most “men” get on with it and make the difference or go.
he must have been doing something right as player/coach role then – besides, we are dwelling too much on the Invincibles season: we just did not concede too many stupid goals like this one today in the past, did we?
players like Keown command respect whether they play or not – proper club legends (something like Giggs at ManUre), where are our legends?
name ONE Arsenal legend currently playing for Arsenal…
What pisses me off is how West Ham got back into the game
It is not like they suddenly turned into Barcelona
We commited football suicide with a goalkeeping howler and giving the Ref a decision to make.
Fucking really poor, once again, worst result of the season and not one you want going into the Spuds game.
GM, thing is, you must know how to handle egos like AA’s if you want to win things – if you’re happy with a bunch of pussies spouting AKB nonsense for players that will win fuck all, that’s fine…
look at the winning teams – full of well managed egos, not groups of unprofessional, immature, larger than life dickheads who are too full of themselves to put in a good shift because of over inflated unmerited self belief…
i realy have seen enough silvest realy to say that is that bad he never realy played before end of last season,he is not there as competition for places is there just incase all cover defenders gets injured,i think senderos must have been inured when he has last international duty or something because he not evon made bench so far this season
I want denilson back
at least he keeps diaby out of the team.. and where is rosicky when you need him?
I don’t blam AW for that bollocks today. I blame the players. I blame the Spanish, Russian and French internationals, who think that a game is over before the ref blows the final whistle!
Lazy, arrogant, selfish, big headed bunch of cunts!
leon, let me enlighten you – Senderos made some comments how much he loved it at Milan when he was trying to get a contract there, he just happened to step out of the line a bit with that and Wenger took offence, that is why we are seeing Silvestre ahead of him…
again, Wenger’s ego being detrimental to our chances…
What most fans are not taking into consideration is the derby factor, derbies are known the world over for unexpected comebacks and results.
I really believe we need a better defensive midfielder than Song.
And I am bemused by the inclusion of Eboue in a creative role with other more creative options available. It showed lack of respect for West Ham and we paid for it.
Leon, you dont need to see Silvestre play to know he is shit.
Senderos seems to have been shunned by Wenger. There is no legit reason…or none that we have been told about.
derby or not, WHU had 4 points until today, we should shit all over them, but we chose to take the foot off the gas in the 50th minute – I heard supporters doing this ‘OLE’ nonsense – they should boo…
Stu, see my comment @ 21:22 – yep, he is being shunned and that is the reason for it…
We wouldnt be under so much pressure we could actually take advantage of our chances and keep possession but that doesnt happen when Eboue is playing as RM and Diaby starts.
Its Wenger and his selection,
The same team drew at AZ, first sign of complacency.
Come Sunday, no changes to the starting line up.. “C mon lads.. get an early lead and lets fuck it up again.”
A danish international striker and a croatian international striker on the bench because eboue has to play.. where ?
Not in his RB position but in an attacking position!
fack
I agree with you on the derby factor Finest,
But we did not succumb to the Derby Factor there.
we succombed to a keeper that loves the Hollywood punch instead of the catch the ball or worst case tip around the post. We have seen those keepers through time, and none of them make it. Mannone has been an accident waiting to happen, and I will be amazed and actually fucking angry if he plays next Saturday. It is time for Almunia or Fabianski.
What is worse is that he made a similar howler against Brum and we nearly got the same result, only Arshavin settled the nerves.
I said it earlier. Be honest boys and girls, How many of you knew deep down at 2-0 up that we would concede at least one?
That is the problem, we need to get out of that mentality and start killing teams off.
This team can deliver but only if we start players who know how to get results playing the “arsenal” style. If we keep possession, dont give possession away needlessly, and can take advantage of our chances, we win as we saw at Everton, Wigan, Portsmouth etc. But when we give the ball away, that disrupts our attacking rhythm. This team was made to score goals not defend and if we put ourselves in a position where we arnt scoring and on the backfoot a lot, a result like today happens. Thats why Diaby shouldnt start, Eboue shouldnt start as RM, and Cesc/Arsh need to lead a bit better IMO.
suga i dont think because if that was case wenger would just sold him,i think its more case that he contract talks with everton stalled he is stuck at arsesal plus the fact i think he been injured,as far as getting better dm than song i dont they are to many out there,eboue is good player but final pass lets him down but he goes passed players very well but i just cant see wenger chancing youg players like vela and wiltshire in an away game unless its last 10 minuts of agame
I don’t think Senderos has been shunned, I’m guessing Senderos lost almost all confidence in himself after the Liverpool game and wanted to move on, so we got him the oppurtunity to go on loan, prove his worth, no-one wanted to buy him.
I don’t really think Senderos thinks he’s up to it, you wouldn’t really blame him after his performance against Liverpool and Wenger’s loathe to play someone who thinks like that.
The team needs a shrink.
And for that matter too, the bench.
And quickly.
I cant believe I miss Denilson…I cannot stand Diaby any longer…atleast in the starting eleven
but he DID try to sell him, leon – no one wanted to pay what he wanted, so he just lets him rot and picks a fucking geriatric with no future ahead of him – Senderos is a confidence player and ironically, Wenger is ‘killing’ him…
What the team needs is a nasty piece of work to kidknapp Diaby so he does not get picked next week……
And a even nastier piece of work to tie an explosive device around Eboue’e neck that will blow up if he plays anywhere else apart from RB. That is not a dig at Eboue, I love his effort and work rate and he is a great RB.
Diaby won’t play now that nasri is available. Rosicky should be back soon so EBoue won’t get as much time either.
Before everyone starts spouting doom and gloom, the impenetrable United defense has conceded 10 goals in 11 games, according to my Manc friend
Keyser – Senderos is the dogs bollocks for Swiss national team (2 goals in the last game) and has bags of potential…
he plays well there for being appreciated and trusted, simple as…
I think Senderos pretty much killed himself, he wanted to play at the top level, got the chance fucked up, how many more chances is he going to get, well it’s up to him, but he’s going to have to work for them.
Mannone
Sagna Gallas Vermy Clichy
Cesc-Song-Diaby
Eduardo/Bendtner/Vela-Rvp-Arshavin
WHY COULDNT WENGER HAVE USED THIS!
The thing is the league is there for the taking and we can’t really capitalise on it
Suga3 – Dogs bollocks ? He’s good, maybe he just doesn’t fit into the Premiership, thats not his fault or Wenger’s, he should try Spain, Pique gets caught out for his lack of pace, but he still gets games there.
Fuck me all this talk of a team of pussies and then we want to cuddle Senderos had hold his hand as he plays.
Pat,
United is nowhere near the team of last season and that is a fact – Ferdinand is pants and Vidic is suffering because of this as well…
stu at moment we have vern gallas dj senderos song silvest,silvest idealy would be used unless dj gallas and vern are all injured you see what i mean every team needs someonelike that its like having 3rd or 4th keeper,in an ideal world you wont have use silvest but i dont think he is that bad he just has no pace i did not help silvest was very rusty last season and he needed are real commander next to him
I think we can with the right starting eleven. I believe this team can win the PL or the Champions league, but not starting fucking diaby or eboue at RM. We have so much fucking potential, but some players just dont understand that when you play a high line attacking style, you need to score goals and you cant give the fucking ball away…
What is it about Eboue. Is it because he’s the champion goal scorer in training? Or does Arsene want to be cool and play a wildcard selection and prove to the world that he can still win…..or is he emotionally attached to Eboue because he feels sorry for him because he had a hard life growing up?
No one else would choose Eboue over what we have available….I guess it’s very original.
Does anyone know how long Rosisky is out for!!
wise up wenger and buy a world class keeper. these clowns in nets every fuckin week giving away free goals to our opponents is now a fuckin unfunny joke. how may people fancied that clown to save that penalty today?
Think its a bit of a mystery reggie, lets hope for the best.
Next Weekend
Almunia
Eboue, Gallas, Vermaelen, Clichy
Song
Cesc, Nasri
Arshavin, RVP, Rosicky
= 3 points
But I bet you 1,0000000000000000000000000000000000000 Pounds Diaby plays from the start even though Nasri, Rosicky, My Nan are fit.
FFS,I am sick of seeing that geriatric Silvestre on the bench,when we have a better option in Silvestre.Why cant Mr.Wenger shun his hypocrisy and open his eyes?When will he ever understand that idiotic wankers like Diaby wont win us anything.Diaby/Eboue above Vela?Even the craziest of managers wouldnt do that.
did I say anything about holding his hand and cuddling him?
no, what my point is that there is a lot of space between this and how he is being treated by Arsene, isn’t there?
fucked up? he got found out against Drogba & Torres in their prime, hardly being the experienced CB…
how many chances? if he gets as many as Diaby did, I’ll be happy…
Hope so luke we really need him
Points that keepers have cost us so far…
3 at Utd
2 at West ham.
So…if we had 5 more points then we had today, we would be top of the table with a game in hand I believe. Even though we have something like 40 million to spend, we dont buy a world class keeper, we have a 20 yr old in goal…ofcourse…
Maybe mannone wasnt all to blame today but he sure as fuck opened the door and invited west ham in to the game
today wham had 3 shots on target scored 2 that cant be right can it!!
No, there’s not a lot of space, he’s a good defender, one that doesn’t quite fit in to the way we play, and seems to get caught out quite a lot, by anyone with a bit of pace.
It’s nothing against him, but I don’t get when people single out certain players just because it’s the done thing to slate them and then overlook the inadequacies of others.
He’s had plenty of chances, and either he works hard to get another chance, or like he wanted last season he moves on.
Don’t you think Italy would suit him a lot better ?!
didnt that happen at city too reggie?
and at alkmaar? and at utd?
Everyone was to blame today. They all switched off after the hour mark. I was disgusted when i heard our fans saying “ole”. I bloody knew it was far far too early and would probably bit us in the arse. Oles are for the 85th minute when you are 4-0 up.
Its that attitude that leads to complacency.
Yeah and almunia got credited with a OG as well you couldnt make it up!!
On a positive, A GOOD CROSS FROM SAGNA!!!!!! *does a little dance*
yes he was, Luke – fucker can’t catch the ball to save his life, even if he does, I cringe, thinking that he will spill it right in front of onrushing striker…
fact is, out of our 3 GKs only Almunia has reasonable ball catching ability – Fabianski is still learning, Mannone is a joke and Szczesny is not even considered, despite being the most talented of them all…
patthegooner – If you had that much money to bet with, I doubt you’d give a shit and even if you did, we’d be looking towards your face on tv as you sat in your platinum plated leather armchair high up above the gods of Ashburton Grove.
That wanker Diaby costed us 3 points at Old Toilet and another two points at AZ whatever.Why the fuck does that bastard get the nod ahead of Vela?
Hello all,
I just hope that this serves as a final kick up the arse to this Arsenal side.
We should be relentless for the whole game or we will keep finding ourselves in this position of dropping points.
It seems like anyone has a 1 in 2 chance to put the ball in the back of our net!!
January-
Out-Almoonia, Diaby
In-Matuidi, Julio Cesar, Matuidi/Gourcuff
if everyone realy looked at performaces on for todays gmae instead of looking to have a pop at diaby you find the worst players to today was diaby or eboue or song it was aa and fab they did realy show up particualy aa he did look interested
Because they play different positions Jaguar…thats why.
I mean, we have the money dont we…
This result must fire us up to beat the Spuds, looking for a big win Saturday.
Vela as a goalkeeper would be better than Diaby anywhere on the pitch, Stu,me think.
Luke, are we buying Matuidi twice or……..??
Arshavin had no service, he had a good shot on target, and fucked up one cross. Cesc wasnt that bad. Im sorry but when Eboue crosses it into the stands 3 fucking times and Diaby gives away needless free kicks in dangerous areas, and mannone fucked that free kick up, you can hardly blame aa and cesc. I admit they were not amazing but they were not the problem. I think this one is down to team spirit and Wenger being a cunt today
Keyser,
I think Phil could do against teams with no lighting paced strikers or indeed in another country – all I’m saying is picking fucking Peanut Head ahead of him is not even good for business (resale value), ffs…
luke
sorry to piss on your parade, but it was Green’s poor intervention, as this cross was really going nowhere…
Stu my bad…
I wouldnt be surprised if AA looks least interested,as he he has a useless wanker behind him in the form of Diaby.
Suga- thats arguable. It produced a goal so in my book its a good cross. Green is a solid keeper and sagna put in a ball that he couldnt deal with…Ill take a positive from that.
How many times you need to hear this Mr.Wenger
Drop Diaby and Shitvestre for fuck’s sake.They are shit.
Wrighty,
only a hairdryer moment can do right now – they are just a bunch of spoilt brats that need something more than a cold stare…
Wenger is a soft touch, end of…
Arshavin is still fishing for a move to Barcelona, if they bid for him at the right price, he wouldn’t hesitate to leave.
well i hope that vela plays a blinder against the bindippers, cause then madrid wil come in for him in jan, wenger will sell for 12 million and then tell us all that he’a FINANCIAL WIZARD.
WELL I’M REALLY Pissed that a potentailly great talent is being spolied by wengers eboue and square peg project.
today our prima donnas showed their arrogance and we paid for it, we must be the only team in the top four that needs to score 3 goals to kill a game off .
how fucking poor is that
im watching wengers post match conference. I want to hear wtf he says about this game as he really fucked it up.
luke – if you look at it again, you will see that it was a kind of cross that ends up in keeper’s mitts 99 out of 100 times…
must be the blind hen and a grain thing…
Ramsey must be kicking himself in the balls for joining us…
He chose us over United. We have loads of attacking CM’s.
United have none near enough.
I’m sure he would be starting many more times for them.
perfect january would be us comfortable top of the league, still in all comps and
Akinfeev, Yaya and a defender in and Silvestre, Almunia, Diaby and Eboue the midfielder out.
Classy keeper
Sagna-gallas-vermy-clichy
cesc-song-nasri
Walcott/Rosicky-RVP-Arshavin
This team can win titles
Mannone/Almoonia
Sagna-Gallas-vermy-Clichy
Cesc-song-Diaby/denilson
Eboue-RVP-Arshavin
This team cannot
SUGA3 – you’re guessing what the reason is, after the Liverpool game, Senderos was devastated, I’m guessing he said he never wants to play in the league again, or that he wanted a move, how do you give him a game again ? What if he gets injured playing ? Maybe he wants a move in January and Wenger doesn’t want to risk him unless absolutely necessary, Silvestre can play against lesser teams.
Also why are you pissing on peoples parades ?! heh, Sagna crossed the ball into a danger area, someone should be there, Green missed as he was stretching anyway and Van Persie scored.
The boys showed the hunger,desire and passion.At the end of the day,the luck didnt favour us
Mr,Wenger has nothing else to say apart from this pre-recorded verses.Hypocrisy at its best.
Ramsey must be kicking himself in the balls for joining us…
He chose us over United. We have loads of attacking CM’s.
United have none near enough.
I’m sure he would be starting many more times for them.
thing is we got found out against shit teams thanks to arrogant approach last season and we have learnt fuck all, haven’t we?
and who is to blame?
January
-Almoonia, Diaby out.
-De Rossi, Julio Cesar, Subotic in.
That would be a good month
Eboue is a good squad player. Wenger uses him wrong
All I can say is that the boys come out against pool and spuds looking like they did against everton. Confident but not cocky, and determined, and sharp. We looked like lazy clueless clumsy idiots against alkmaar and WHU
And if Song gets booked before the match against Chelsea,we would be screwed,much to the mean methods of our coach Mr.Wenger.
Julio Cesar – yep, that would be a good buy, but I just can’t see Maureen letting him go…
Eboue isnt a god squad player. He is a good right back…thats all.
Song is an idiot for not getting booked today. Now whenever he next gets booked he will be banned for a prem game instead of the CC.
It would be cool though..more realistically, Kameni is a great keeper for espanyol, Akinfeev would be an improvement, I rate the mexican keeper Ochoa, Im told Krul is good for Newcastle. Really, all of these are improvements.
Cesar would cost at least 20m. Wenger would never spend that on anyone…let alone a keeper.
Krul is only about 20. That would be crazy buying him for first choice.
sorry luke bast on todays performance only diaby played better than aa he did show up,and yes not just aa cesc were proble,but toomany players were flat today and did have that zip about them
Stu- I dont know about Krul, someone on here told me hed be a good option. Either Kameni, Akinfeev, or maybe Ochoa would be an improvement though
Wenger would spend 20m,if some one tells him that Akinfeev is a 12 year old French goal keeper touted to be the next big thing in football.
After moaning about the impact of recession in football,he bought a 16 year old GK for £1.5m(as if we had a shortage of Gk).What a fucking hypocrisy!
obviously, Alan fucking Hansen is on MOTD2 – thought he was supposed to do MOTD on Saturdays?
wonder if he would be on today if the Dippers lost…
Agreed Leon. The whole team today looked flat. I dont blame eboue as he is just doing what Wenger tells him to no matter how ineffective. I thought AA looked dangerous with the ball but he only had the ball about 3 times in a dangerous area. Diaby looked like he usually does. I just dont see how he helps us. I see how he hurts us though…Nasri broken leg, utd own goal, giving away possession, giving away needless free kicks…one of which resulted in WHU’s goal, I know Mannone should have delt with it better, but giving away the free kick in the first place was utterly retarted
Wenger would spend 20m,if some one tells him that Akinfeev is a 12 year old French goal keeper touted to be the next big thing in football.
————-
hahah so true
I dont rate Kameni much either. Espanyol are a relegation regular team. We need an international class keeper used to playing for a big club..
Diaby wouldnt last five minutes under the Rednose or Maureen.
Kameni is African so thats a start!
Okay then Stu, either akinfeev or ochoa and im happy.
second that, Jag…
We should trade diaby for either matuidi or gourcuff and some money. The french rate diaby for some reason
The team we should have:
_______Akinfeev_________
Sagna–Gallas–Vermy–Clichy
__________De Rossi__________
____Rosicky—-Fabregas_____
Bendtner–RVP–Arshavin
Akinfeev-12M
De Rossi-18-25M
That would win us loads.
Whilst still having:
Nasri,Eduardo,Walcott,Vela etc etc as options…
Diaby could do well in Ligue 1, IMO…
he would probably get to play in his preferred position too…
diaby song almunia-manone eboue. wont win anything with them in ur team. simple
Samir what about
Akinfeev
Sagna-gallas-vermy-clichy
Cesc-De Rossi-Nasri
Rosicky-Rvp-Arshavin
Subs- Fabianski, Gibbs, Shitvestre, Walcott, Eduardo, Ramsey, Song
We should go allout to buy the Igors in the winter. Akinfeev and Denisov…any others?
what a fucking dive by Cole that was…
cunt…
Its too bad roma wont part with de rossi and/or wenger wont spend that much. Great player.
Matuidi is rated at £15m.
So Diaby(-20m)+ £35 m would do the trick,if St.Etienne is ready to have a useless lump in their reserves.
If De Rossi left Roma then the fans would hunt him down and kill him.
hahahahahahah jaguar
‘criminal from Arsenal’s point of view’
Keown you fucking legend…
Luke, very nice……
Why the hell didn’t Wenger spend that 40 odd million he had in his pocket??
I would have to have Bendy in there, or at least on the bench. He’s just starting to shine.
That team could win everything!
Two players could do it.
Everyone sees it.
We see it.
Even Arshavin sees it.
Why does Wenger not??
someone should make a Diaby pamphlet mimicking the adebayor one.
For your club, Diaby will:
-Head in own goals to your biggest rivals
-Give away free kicks for funsies!
- Give away possession for more funsies
- Hurt your brightest stars in training!
15m for Matuidi? He is worth 10m at the very maximum.
We should defo give Diaby to a french club tho. He would suit the play over there…really slow.
You didnt get the sarcasm,Stu
Ye De Rossi would never leave. Great player however.
I’m sure there’s someone out there as good.
Inler maybe, or someone like that….
I would be so happy with trading diaby and some cash for either Matuidi, Gourcuff, Toulalan
Obviously i didnt Jaguar.
What about Sebastien Frey, he’s a good goalkeeper.
Man wenger is frustrating me. I respect a man who sticks to his philosophies and principles, but when it obviously doesnt work as we havnt won fuck all in years, I do not respect a man who does not learn a lesson
I would swap Diaby and Eboue for Gourcuff.
We need to sort out the right back slot too. We have one right back who can only defend and one who can only attack.
I spoke to a scout from France and he says that Gourcuff will be better than Zidane.
What about that RB we were linked with. Van der something. Is he at Ajax? Van der miel… He is over 6 feet too. Adds some height
I rated Diaby as -£20m worth player.I reckon its too high a value for him.
Luke, Toulalan is the one.
Great player he is. I’m sure he would leave and Lyon would be willing to sell at the right price as-well.
Please Wenger, he is French so……
Luke that van der wiel fella isn’t that tall mate
Heres a cherry on top of a great day
http://www.imscouting.com/global_news_item.aspx?id=3431
Thats not really sarcasm tho…is it?
Luke, Van Der Wiel was only at right back because he was too shit to play in the middle and he did well there. I dont know anything else about him tho…
Hmm, I read in one of the articles linking him with us he was 6 ft 1, Wiki has him at 5 11 though.
May be its not sarcasm,but reality.
Whatever,we need to get rid of Diaby,ASAP.
Its not like we ever play Barazite so its not like he is going to be missed or anything.
Gourcuff or toulalan…
Bentdner ans Senderos should be enough for Gourcuff, add a few million and we ger Chamakh too.
i think diaby would be best suited much higher up pitch but wenger persisting in playing in a deeper role which untilhe improve his passing he will continue inconsistant performances but at 23-24 had ton of injuries lets not forgett this first time he has realy played injury free way way way to early make these kind judgements.to wengers defence i dont think edwardo was fully fit niether him or edwardo and wenger realy did not want risk either one of them
Im off onto Fifa 10…..
Anyone want a game PS3?
Add me kila-arsenal
why not vela then?
leon,
are you Diaby in disguise? he is not good enough, we are Arsenal FC, not Diaby-school-or-hospital FC…
we have more younger and more gifted players that are worth nurturing rather that this twat – he is 24 y.o., he should be nearing his prime and he is simply crap…
keyser, I dont know if bordeaux would settle for losing their best 2 players for senderos and bendtner and a couple million…I wish though.
OK fuck slating individual players – team’s attitude as a whole was shit and that is a fact…
taking foot off the gas is a daft thing to do and we had a fair share of lessons in that subject, didn’t we?
plus, with the league being the tightest for a few years, the goal difference may prove decisive in May, so why the fuck not go and score 2 more goals?
suga he may be inconstsant but he is not crap
especially with chelski nicking 5 yesterday
weve been through this with diaby. He is average 3 games, crap 3 games, then has 1 good game and then repeats
leon, inconsistent equals crap when you happen to play for a team with aspirations, besides, 1 poor game in 5 is inconsistent, 1 good game in 5 is crap…
I would rather just Gourcuff and leave Chamakh where he is. Useless footballer.
so will the team against the bindippers beas follows
fabianski
gilbert, silvestre, Senderos, gibbs
wilshere, ramsey, nasri, troare,
vela , bendtner ,
the team for the spuds
almunia,
sagna, vermmalean , gallas, clichy,
song
nasri fabregas
rosicky , van persie , arshavin
Nasri won’t start against Spuds, more Diaby for us I’m afraid…
Yea nasri wont start 2 games in 4 days after returning from injury. Why not start ramsey over diaby?
OK Gooners, I’m offski
4-4-2 simon? Never gonna happen. Coquelin will probably be in there too…and no Traore.
I think the pool team will be stronger. Wenger says it will be mixed with the boys and the men
night suga
simon i would rather see
fab
gilbert silvest senderos
couquin
watt rambo
wiltshire vela nikki
I hope diaby starts for pool and not spuds
10 men leon…interesting idea
Pool will come to tear us a new one – it is the ‘we can still win this and you can’t’ thing that will arise from the result, it will give them winners some psychological edge and we are yet to play them in the league…
Fab
Eboue Senderos Silvestre (reluctantly) Gibbs
Coquelin Ramsey
Nasri
Wilshere Bendtner Vela
Thats what we should go for. Get Fab more game time before the spud match.
this time I’m really off
I think pool will have to put out a pretty weak eleven with the matches they have had
night suga…
I think even shitvestre and senderos can handle babel and ngog
When Rosicky plays. The Arsenal look world beaters. When he doesn’t…………..
I have had a kip & feel refreshed, & for the life of me I still can’t see why Eboue is played in that midfield role with Diaby. The really good players in the team, like Rosicky, make them look good, but when the team has to rely on eboue & diaby alone for inspiration, they are not up to it. That means no trophys. Its simple really, rid the team of these type of players, they are keeping a really, really good player out.
i think he a few options there he can watt,nasri,barasite,merida,troare sowenger has got few options there alot young players comming trough and need to given a chance,i think the fact is for this game niether bretna or edwardo were fully fit thats reason he did not bring them sooner wenger already stated that they were 50/50 and edwardo had been out for 2-3 weeks
Exactly..too many weak players makes us look shit. We are jusr getting used to having Song as a starter and now Diaby and EBoue are playing most of the games. It too many average in one place.
I agree GG9. Rosicky is so class…
He allows Fab and AA to play their a-game.
Thank God Nasri is back for the spurs..
i’d hate to see what the result would be with Diabi and Eboue in there.
Why not vela though? Thats what gets me. Vela is better at Right forward then eboue any day of the week
jay, dont think nasri will be starting for spuds. Wenger has said he will start against pool and I doubt he will play twice in 4 days after his injury…
arrogance by this team today was a disgrace. win something first u prima donnas. they should apoligise to the fans
Wenger put out a shitty eleven, the shitty eleven didnt do good, wenger didnt make good subs. I hold everyone accountable. Thought sagna and vermy were good today
luke we have only glimses of vela we realy dont if he can play week in/out so we realy dont know he perform on a consistant basis
Yeah todays team was a slap in the face. After watching 90minutes of boring football against AZ Wenger decided to put out the exact same team and it happened all over again.
I mean the football was much better but the same problems were there.
Its not about week in week out leon. He isnt being used at all apart from the carling cup games and there arent enoug of those a season to give Vela enough playing time to improve at a rate at which he should.
Youngsters need games to get better and Vela isnt getting the time that he deserves.
stu i would have agree with that it be nice see play at 45 minutes a few times but its only october and he has been injured i think wenger play him,which is why i think wenger should put merida on laoan in jan
He hasnt been injured the whole time tho. He doesnt even make it off the bench so its not like there is no way of playing him. He is there but just not being used.
Leon…I would play him a half at the pool…
We need a mid of cesc nas and song..
eddy, vp, arsh up top..
vela and bendy on bench.
Leon, I agree Vela isnt proven. But frankly, Wilshire would have been better then eboue. Eboue adds absolutely nothing attack wise. We are arsenal, we play attacking football, and when we in essence start 5 defenders, it isnt going to work…period. Not to mention Diaby…
6 defenders if you count Song too luke.
luke i dont agree the onlything wroung with eboue is crossing but he goes past players realy well he is very good utility player he plays wb lb lwing and right wing evon dm player at times
Good point Stu. I just dont think we will win games with such a negative starting eleven. We win by scoring more than the other team and we need to accept that. Frankly, I dont think we can hold down tight games consistently so lets try and score 4. Atleast in the past couple of games when we conceded it hasnt been because we got caught on a counter. I mean, it hasnt been a consequence of attacking football, so I dont see why we wont push on and try and score more after 2-0…
Leon, he goes past players very well only to cross the ball into the stands and disrupt an attacking rhythm…He also cant finish…All he can do is go past players here and there. Not the best passer. He is out of position period. I rate eboue as a right back though dont get me wrong. I dont assign fault to eboue, I assign it to wenger for playing eboue out of position
Leon, Eboue is a good marauding right back. Other than that he is pants. He can run past players but has absolutely end product. He plays a lot of positions but isnt versatile because to be versatile he would have to play reasonably well in those other positions.
He has a good cross and is decent at 1-2s but thats basically it imo.
Why do people perpetuate this rubbish, Vela had 10 starts last year and came off the bench a further 19 times, he’s been injured this season a fair bit, or been off on International Duty.
I don’t get why people pull up this bullshit about Eboue or Diaby taking his place, unless they want him to play as a midfielder or on the right hand side of it when he hasn’t really shown any consistentcy when we’ve actually needed him to.
Vela should play against Liverpool, aswell as Merida, if they do well they’ll get to play again and soon, if they don’t or don’t give enough in training they won’t.
If they do play, unless their personal favourties of the muppets making the comments, and they don’t have good games, they’re going to get slated and people will start writing them off.
I think crossing is one of Ebowies best attributes tbh. First time crosses that is because he seems to do worse the more touches he has.
Whats Bendtner good at Stuvid ?!
Im not answering that Keyser.
Keyser, you would rather see a front three of
Ebway-RVP-Arshavin over
Vela-RVP-Arshavin?
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i rest my case wengers team selections fuck us over again …
and im saying this to the plonkers who actually believe we have a chance this season …
do you really think we can afford to throw 2 points out the window V’s a team like WHU and still be worthy winners ?
also ‘A’ nice team selections last weekend
is vito still in goal ? hmmm ?
rosicky didnt start this week so .. close… but no cigar …
luke he is always creating something causing problems for defences wwith his runs and as for today he played better tha aa alot better is passing let him down but he worked realy hard but he is squad player and very good one,it remains to seen if vela it would do a better job than at this point in time but vela just be played more often
On eboue vs vela. We know what were getting with Eboue as a forward…nothing, we dont know what were getting with vela. I would take a mysters over guaranteed shit.
I’d rather see a front 3 of Rosicky – Van Persie/ Eduardo – Arshavin.
With a bench of Vela, Walcott and so on, Vela’s barely played, not because of poor selction but because he’s been injured and been asked to play for his country injured.
Last season we rushed players back, and I’m not sure if thats the case with Vela, but we need consistency more than anything else IMO, we need to ease these players back in and hopefully string a few games together with some cohesion. Getting them fit in the process.
I’m glad we didn’t use Nasri, though I hope he gets a game in the Carling Cup.
mystery*
Stu – Sorry shouldn’t really pick on you.
vela has looked good in champions league. Better then eboue atleast
luke
dudu was on the sub bench next to nasri ?
id of preferred they started ..win it …
sub em ‘ out .
RVP dudu AA – STARTING .. or vela ! yeah ..
your not going to win anything with eboue diaby song .. they bring the teams high profile down .
stupid team selections from the talent mizer ,
Mr wenger ..
most managers put the shit players on for the last 10 minutes … not the talented ones.
take each game as it comes and play your best
11 ..
not use the west ham match as a 1st team experience builder to all your less talented players .
He looked busy, he didn’t really do much just ran around, he could’nt even be arsed to run back to stay onside and gave away a free-kick, I don’t think thats particularly bad because we should’ve defended better anyway.
Though if that was Ebway or Adebayor last season, there would’ve been the usual muppets saying it’s a lack of brain cells, actually they would’ve completely spazzed out..
the simple fact is vela is striker and unproven one and at moment we have edawrdo,rvp,bretna,thoe and vela,and at least 3 strikers are ahead of him i dont see him as midfielder at all may be winger/striker
Just saw that U2 are playing a concert on youtube or whatever. What the fuck is that about. FUcking bastard Bono thinking he is so great….
I would have much preferred edwardo but I think wenger is still nervous about starting him coming off his injury. Thats the only reason i was pushing for vela
I was only pushing for a vela start today because I think the only reason nikki/edwardo didnt start was because they were coming off injuries. Im saying if Wenger didnt want to use Nikki or edwardo out of injury fear, then use vela not ebway. Im sayign vela is a better option then ebway, not edwardo, rosicky, walcott, or bendtner…
luke – Honestly we should’ve won that game and the one in mid-week, either we’re going to need all of our top players completely fit and ready to go, or we’re going to have to work through games like that, where we’re compltely cruising and try to see them out.
That was a harsh criticism of Vela. You can hardly say he got many chances last year when firstly, it was his debut season in England, and secondly, the entire team played shit the entire year.
He has hardly been given any playing time with a strong creative unit behind him, only getting playing time with Denilson, Diaby, Eboue and Song. Hardly the kind of servicemen that leave strikers salivating.
I will agree that he has hardly set the place a fire when he was given opportunities outside of the CC, but when he was given these opportunities it was with subs with 3-5 mins remaining or when the team had nothing left to play for cuz we were dumped out of all competitions. I am from the CONCACAF region so I see my fair share of Mexico play and it seems to me that if he can perform for his country and have millions put their hopes on him (and others of course) and he excels, then he can do the same for Arsenal.
This boy has more talent than Walcott (though Walcott offers something different) and Walcott plays almost every game he is fit.
What i want is TO HAVE NO EXCUSES. Lets win, lose or draw with the best players we have for each game instead of having the same argument; Denilson, Diaby, Song, Eboue, Bendtner did(n’t) this, that and blah blah blah.
The left wing would be perfect for Vela right now. Not really mature enough for the middle and he doesnt seem to defend an awful lot. So left wing where he isnt crowded and doesnt have to defend too much is right for him. Like Theo on the right.
I just hope he plays against liverpool. Bendtner in the middle and Wilshere on the right.
Not sure where Nasri will play tho. Ramsey will surely start and maybe Merida but you have to assume Coquelin as the only DM will start too. Wenger needs to earn his money with this tough team selection.
agreed.
Luke – Vela on the right ? We had Arshavin, Van Persie and Fabregas, just like mid-week, Arshavin had Vela’s place.
Those players should be able to see out the game, either we learn to do that or we’re going to need everyone fit for the rest of the season.
Wenger ‘the lesson from today is to kill teams off.’
What the fuck was the lessen from midweek.
I think you guys are misunderstanding me. All im saying is, from todays eleven, I would rather see Vela in Ebways place. Ofcourse RVP, fab, aa, should be able to maintain a 2-0 lead. Im not disputing that. Im just saying, Ebway should not be used anywhere except right back.
vela or jack both have more than enough talent to be worth more than the likes of eboue and diaby .
why play them ?
if we know wenger wont spend at least play YOUR BEST!!!
cut all this DOWN TIME OUT trying to bring up players which so obviously will not make it as a regular star here ! and motor forward to a time where all the talent clicks .
then i agree with wenger that its only a matter of time ..
with lesser players in the team its not a matter of ‘when’ its a matter of IF !
Vela for EBoue wouldnt have to be like for like. We could just move Arshavin over and hav Vela on the left.
When trying to see out a game we either need someone to score the killer goal or someone to hold onto possession and Eboue is neither of the two. Not playing Eboue doe conceding late goals but you get the point.
stu
i think wenger has been very good with selections but also has very protevive of the players and not rushing them back which he was guity of last season,vela has been international duty alot plus he has been injured a bit too should not rushed he know his players hell of alot more than we do
Thats all true leon but even when Vela has been on the bench Wenger still hasnt played him much. If he isnt fit enough to come on then why have him on the bench.
zeus – I like Vela, I wouldn’t compare him to Walcott, if Walcott is bale to harness his pace and keep control at the same time he’ll be as devastating as Henry, maybe not as good, but we’ll have something deadly.
Same with Vela, it was his debut season last year and I don’t hold it against him, but I don’t want any of the players rushed in, I hoped for once we’d be able to use them from a position of strength.
They should’ve had a run out yesterday, but I’m guessing Wenger wanted to see out this game, so that the first team has a rest mid-week and we can see Vela and the rest of the kids on Tuesday/ Wednesday ?!
Luke – Vela should play mid-week, I don’t think Ebways that bad there, Vela hasn’t got used to playing on the left, playing him on the right in a new formation, I’d rather he was fresh for Liverpool.
If we’d had Walcott fit or trying to regain fitness, Vela and Walcott would have great to have mid-week.
I think wilshire would have done better than ebway today too if vela needed more time…
I’m extremely disapointed with the result today, West Ham were so poor and we were cruising at one point, ridiculous ref decsion regarding the freekick, it pissed me off before the goal went in and even more so after, but the penalty was probably a fair penalty but it was a stupid place to make that tackle, it was unneccessary, I’m really upset about this match cause we could of made up so many points and had the potential to go top had we won our games in hand, I’m just bitterly disapointed, we should have finished the game off, I wouldn’t of picked Eboue today, I would of liked to of seen Bendtner start instead…. I feel we need a victory over a team like Chelsea now to give us leverage back.
Saw some messages insulting Diaby, don’t know why… he had a good game, Song did to to be honest but that decsion at the end was very poor and costly…..
I hope we bounce back strong.
someone summed diaby up well. He had a good game for his standards, for arsenal standards or other cm standards, he was not good enough and rarely is.
People insulting Diaby today obviously don’t watch football properly, he had a good game, he won some good balls, looked sharp and was involved in one of the goals, stop mindlessly scapgoating players, childish.
I don’t blame Vela or anyone else, Fabregas was able to learn from a stable team full of experience and World Class stars.
We need to build that up again, and when the younger players need to come in, unless they’ve got a few games under their belt, they need to have as much experience in the side to help them along as possible.
Moving players around just to accomdate a younger, albeit talented player, is pointless.
We’ve had 14 games this year I think, Vela came back late from the Internationals missed I think the first month and then was injured, he’s been off on International duty again, and he’s only sat on the bench a couple of times when he’s actually been available.
Even then I wouldn’t start him ahead of Arshavin or Rosicky anyway.
Ruler Says:
October 26, 2009 at 01:02
People insulting Diaby today obviously don’t watch football properly, he had a good game, he won some good balls, looked sharp and was involved in one of the goals, stop mindlessly scapgoating players, childish.
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No one is blaming diaby for the result. He gave away several needless free kicks in dangerous areas, one of which resulted in the first west ham goal which was the beginning of our decline. He gives away possession much to often and disrupts our passing rhythm. He also takes too many touches and either drives in and loses the ball of just passes to fabregas. Waste of space if you ask me, especially for an ambitious team like arsenal…
Diaby has been playing Arsenal standard, we should of won the game today, we didn’t due to not finishing the game off and a very poor ref decsion.
I think Diaby’s biggest problem is his inability to not tackle cleanly and thus he gives away his away his fair share of freekicks in VERY dangerous areas.
Mannone made a huge mistake today but Diaby gave away a needless foul that brought about the freekick.
Needless to say he is not the onlyone with this problem, Denilson is the same as well. I rate Denilson higher than Diaby though as he brings more to the game than the Frenchman.
That first comment wasn’t directed at you, people were linking the result to Diaby though, and he that wasn’t a free kick, the player ran into him deliberatly to try and get the free kick, he may of even pulled Diaby down to get it and make it look like a foul, he also was involved in the goal, he hasn’t always been good this season, had some very poor games, but in the last 3 or 4 he has been execellent and one of our best players in the team, he can’t be a waste of space since he was involved in the goal which he was, he looked very sharp today and has had great improvemnt recently.
zeus – It wasn’t a foul, simple as that, there is no way that was a foul, the ref fucked up, if anything it should’ve been a foul on Diaby.
Mannonne could of done better with the goal and Song made a stupid challenge, if we had to blame anyone today it would be Song, but I wouldn’t even blame him cause I think he had a pretty good game too buthe just made a needless decsion which cost us today.
How was he involved in the goal exactly? The first one sagna crossed, green missed, and rvp scored. Second was a gallas header. He was involved with west hams goal as he gave up the free kick. He seems more likely to score own goals this season then he does goals. He almost put another in at alkmaar that was a similar situation to the utd own goal.
Diaby wasnt awful today. It wasnt really a foul by him. Stupid foul to give away but it was Mannones fault for palming the ball back into play instead of our for a corner. And the penalty was harsh aswell.
They scored a free kick and a penalty. If only we were clinical like that. 3 fucking shots! Its just not fair.
Exactly Keyser, I was going absoloutely mad when that foul was given against Diaby because iaby was fouled, it infuriated me, I knew people would pick it out to scapegoat Diaby too when HE was fouled, it was a ridicuous and abysmal ref decsion that changed the game completly.
Luke did you watch the game? Who did the link up play with Sagna for the cross? Also he won tackles this game, he worked very hard, rarely gave away the ball and made great offensive runs and was involved in link up play.
luke – He was fouled, the ref fucked up, against Alkmaar it wasn’t exactly his fault that the ball flew at him off Van Persie head, in fact he did well to get it up and over the bar.
This is just simple scapegoating.
Stu – 3 shots ? What do you mean ?!
Found this on another blog….
“bemoaning players like Diaby, Mannone and even Arshavin – he didn’t have his best game but picking on a player of his class is nigh on stupidity.”, this isn’t the first time Arshavin has been a disappointment, no one should be absolved of criticism based on former performances, he may be a big name player, he needs to play like one or we will forget some of his performanceslast season , enough of treating stars like gods when they don’t back it up, week after week. They have the ability, now show us all the time, no messing about.
Couldn’t agree more.
Diaby played a 1-2 with Sagna before he crossed. Thats how he was involved.
Diaby wasnt bad today but he wasnt that good either and we need better players than him..regardless of him being a back up. He wants to be first choice so he should be playing better.
West Ham had 3 shots apparently Keyser. 2 goals from 3 shots is what i heard. Not sure tho but it wouldnt suprise me.
Ruler, just watched the highlight. All diaby did was hit pass it to sagna. It was a simple 1-2 pass. Nothing extraordinary. Good cross by sagna though. Diaby was mediocre today as he usually is. I can hardly see how someone thought he had a good game today.
Someone said Ibrahimovic scored an amazing free kick. Having just seen it i now beg to differ. It was right at the keeper but just had an amazing amount of power in the shot. Should have been saved imo.
Stu – Well said, I hope you apply that to all players.
Just checked the shots on and off target, West Ham had 15 or 16 attemtps depending on where you read and 9 or 10 on target.
luke, Sagnas cross wasnt good. Green palmed it right onto Van Persies left foot for a tap in. Diabys pass was better than Sagnas cross.
Fuck sake i cant believe im actually sticking up for Diaby.
makes two of us…
okay if sagna doesnt get credit for the goal diaby cant either. it was a simple 1-2 pass. Blame it on green then.
Stu – Did you watch the game ? Watch the build up and listen for the fans with their drums, it builds to a crescendo and when he hits the ball, it’s like a bullets just been fired, they must’ve had a mike in the ball or something or turned the background sound up.
Goalie should’ve saved it, because he could’ve had both his hands behind that, but for the distance it was one powerful shot.
No, it wasn’t anything spectactular, but he was involved, you said he was a waste of space, if he was just a “space” he wouldn’t of supplied the pass, true it wasn’t spectacular but he timed the pass well and placed it in exactly the right place, Diaby had an excellent run today too, he did a lot of good things, I watched his game very closely and he was far from medicore today, I’m sure the stats would back that up too, I’m neutral so I just speak honestly, Diaby had some really poor games this season, he gave the ball away needlessly and held on for too long, in recent games he’s REALLY improved that a hell of a lot, I feel he deserves credit for that.
No Keyser, all my sports channels are gone…not that i would have watched it if i could have.
It was an almighty shot tho..i’ll give major credit for that. Still doesnt excuse the weak goalkeeping tho.
dont the stats also say that either denilson makes more tackles then essein? Maybe it was diaby actually. Either way, id take essein to diaby or denilson any day.
Also he could of easily fucked it up, players often mess up the simple passes, and Diaby in the past has been guilty of this too, but today he did what he was supposed to in that aspect and was a valuable asset, in terms of selection the main change I would of had is Eboue for a more offensive player, I have nothing against Eboue but today I think a Bendnter type player would have been better,
Arsenal players do not mess up simple passes. Diaby is a fine cm, just I have higher expectations at a team like arsenal. I would love to trade diaby and some cash for either toulalan or gourcuff.
anyways im off. keep the faith.
It was Diaby and there not false stats, he actually does make a lot of tackles somtimes, today he won some important tackles, and I bet his running stats were excellent today too, his work rate for the most part was first rate, he’s really improving and getting where he should be, he played his part today, others let the team down, but he has no right to complain either cause he’s done it in the past too, like the Man U game, but credit where credit is due, he worked hard and put in a solid performance, I hope he keeps it up an further improves.
Peace luke, let’s hope we bounce back as we all still Arsenal fans and wish the best for the team irrespective of different perspectives regarding some team issues.
Last point you made though wasn’t true, Arshavin has messed up quite a few simple passes recenty.
For the CC I would start this team…
………………Almunia…………………..
Eboue/Gilbert…….Sendy……..Sylvest……..Gibbs
………………….Coquelin……………………..
..Ramsey…………………………………Merida
..Wilshere……………Vela…………….Nasri
I would have Bendy in reserve…..I would also want to give
Watt and Sunu a run out….maybe Randall as well.
Ruler Says:
October 26, 2009 at 01:28
Peace luke, let’s hope we bounce back as we all still Arsenal fans and wish the best for the team irrespective of different perspectives regarding some team issues.
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Thats why I love le grove. Respect ruler
Ruler Fair play defending Diaby. But you are wrong about him, he’s a rubbish player and an absolute liability I blame him for losing us games and points.
He can fuck off.
he played good against portsmouth and has had flashes here and there but overall I dont rate him for arsenal. I would love to trade him +$ to either lyon or bordeaux for either jeremy toulalan or gourcuff
Luke I would trade him for a can of coke.
Still can’t believe that we blew a 2 goal lead.I know diaby and eboue are crap but thought that we could alteast get away with it against west ham.
For most of the teams the second goal is the killer goal.Very different in our case
lol…why do i see a few of u still defending diaby??
there’s a reason why everyone criticizes him….he’s a waste and that is it
I just hope we bloody sell eboue.Problem solved.Go buy a young cheap french attacking RB.As long as eboue is there in the squad he will continue to get chances.
coke is pretty tasty…ahahahah
nishanth Says:
October 26, 2009 at 04:45
Still can’t believe that we blew a 2 goal lead.I know diaby and eboue are crap but thought that we could alteast get away with it against west ham.
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nis , you and wenger think alike then !
my point all along is play your quality players today !
get the 3 points ..
2 easy points have gone astray ,
the points table is tight and those 2 points could have really put us close to the top of the pile !
due to ongoing inconsistencies we have still to be alarmed ….
Hello All
………………Almunia…………………..
Gilbert…….Sendy……..Sylvest……..Gibbs
………………….Coquelin……………………..
..Ramsey…………………………………nasri
..Wilshere……………eduardo……………vela
i think team will be like that..
mooooooooooorning grovers
we need dudu for spurs game …
we can start with bendtner in carling cup game
Morning guys
That is not what i meant ethan.These guys are proffesional footballers.Defending a 2 goal lead is something they should do.Players far less talented than ours wouldn’t let a 2 goal lead slip away.
You can blame Eboue and Diaby, and god knows I do, but who puts them on the pitch when he has the strongest bench available ever? Wenger.
we limped to 60 mins and we were still 2-0 up. the tide started turning. we couldn’t keep the ball. that game started to get away from us even before they scored the first one.
why didn’t wenger do something? you could see he looked frustrated but he left the same team on. Diaby and Eboue should have been off.
If Diaby and Eboue are playing badly then its up to wenger to act. Diaby was like a fucking statue after 60 minutes. It was pathetic, and we have been like this for years now. since vieira left.
Nasri and rosicky need to stay fit all the time.If they get injured instead of bring ramsey,vela or wilshere he will bring eboue and diaby
Nish – do you really believe AW will forsake his chosen few by playing Rosicky and Nasri in front of Diaby & Wboue???
I feel like that as well. if Nasri and Rosicky and others are fit, I still expect wenger to play Eboue and Diaby. thats why Arsenal wont win anything and its also why I wont be holding wenger back when he decides to leave us one day. He is far from perfect.
the whole team needs sacking
http://arsenalfcblog.com/exclusive-the-arsenal-fc-blog-interviews-cesc-fabregas/
nothing short of disgusting the way they threw away that lead yesterday
We clearly lack leadership.Eboue kept trying to get past his man instead of just simply passing it.Someone should have fucking screamed at him.
mannone needs to fuck off and so does song,there not fit to wear the shirt
blessing in disguise.. i was not able to watch game because of load shedding!!!!
Mannone will NEVER be good enough. people talk about being young. what is he 21? should not be making basic errors at that age. I rate that young polish guy far higher already and he is only 18.
Fabianski has hardly had his chance but people seem to writing him off too early. I have seen far more in him than any of our other keepers.
Mannone fucks off to be replaced by who?
I’d have Mannone over Almuia anyday!!
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