So this is it, the first group game at home and this team are dangerous, this team have Matt Derbyshire in it, yes, you heard, Matt Derbyshire.
I expect to see our best starting 11 out there, I expect us to make it 5 games on the trot since we lost to the Northern chavs, tonight I expect to see the real Arsenal, we won ugly on Saturday, but we won, that for me is real progress, tonight I expect to see Arshavin set the Grove alight, I hope he starts with Arshavin, Eduardo and Robin up top, I hope to see Cesc, Ramsey and Rosicky in the middle, I hope we don’t see Diaby but I expect we will and by the law of averages, he is due his good game so I won’t be too upset if he plays.
Maybe this is the sort of game to take a few chances and give Wilshere a start but I doubt it.
We need to start getting some goals because our build up play has been very sweet, I know we have a ton of money and yesterday’s accounts showed that, they also showed that Arsene has had the money all along but chose not to spend it, so tonight we need to get behind whoever he puts out, because no matter how much we want him to buy, he won’t, and he can’t, we have to wait until January so I suggest we talk about what we do have, and not what we want.
He’ll probably start Diaby, Song and Eboue, Eboue has played well, my problem with him is there is no end product, maybe there will be tonight, two players who won’t feature though are Nikki B and Denilson, Nikki B pranged his Aston, I’ve done that, so please, a bit of support for the boy, doing that does make you feel sick. Really sick, and a little silly, in my case it was a birds fault, in his, a tree.
I hear on the Grapevine that Denilson won’t be back until the end of the year, shame for the boy, but it does allow Ramsey to show what he has, good luck that man.
Theo’s injury is as much of a mystery as Nasri’s, Theo has been busy making commercials so perhaps he’s being rested, but Nasri’s injury wasn’t bad, he’ll be six weeks, that was in July, so either Wenger can’t count or the injury was worse, I broke my arm in 7 places on August the first but this weekend I’m playing golf again, so god knows how bad his break was.
The up side of all this, is the young kids are growing together, losing to the Mancs when we were the better team shows how much stronger we are as a unit, but we need to start converting promise into points, and tonight I expect us to do just that.
I’ll be there, so stewards, back off, I’ll be standing and singing and there may even be a little bad language thrown in, so I apologise in advance, but leave me alone.
One of my favourite films involved Greeks, ’300′ but remember what happened to them? …they lost! – So 5 nil the Arsenal, and yes, that is a prediction.
I would have said 5-1 but Alminia has been dropped, go Vito, go!
Have a great night tonight Grovers, I have a funny feeling it could be one of our greatest ever European games, up there with Madrid and Milan.
Le Grove is now smart phone compatible!
Pedro
Geoff
FIRST
i am back
BOOM
SECOND
HATRICK
4th too
imp game today
5th too
One nil or five nil, win would do.
anybody there guys other than geoff
now to read the post
Me
Nothing short of 5 for me, we need to shut those pundits up.
Geoff
I think wenger is purposefully not playing walcott,including this weekend game, so that he wont be picked up for internationals..
we had enough of injuries..and not anymore
Yey The Arsenal
wow
i really do dominate in coming first to le-grove whenever i want..
Did you read it though Sabeel? Chozzer I see your clip but I don’t know why it’s not on???
Frank Mclintock on Talksport right now. He says what 90% on here say, in fact he could be a Grover !
He says there are a few who will never say a word against Arsene,which he doesnt agree as good a job he’s done.
He believes Wenger took on the fact that money in the past has been tight but can’t understand why he won’t invest but he really needs another couple of Vermaelens.
If we score 5 the pundits will go on about how it’s a Greek team and how it’s a team with Matt Derbyshire in it
@SIG – there’s this thing called the sun
I posted it on yesterday’s, Geoff, to sit alongside your comment!
Arsene or any of your staff if you read this.
DIABY IS SHITE….at 18 Ramsey offers more.
Double he talks out of both sides of his mouth, he didn’t mind spending at Highbury, but then he wasn’t on a bonus I guess.
This is all about project youth and he is just being pedantic.
Iceman this team is rated I think.
Chozzer that’s bizarre then, catchy tune though!
Matt Drebyshire is on sick list, not playing today.
Am expecting a goal fest today so come on Arshavin score 4 again today man
of course geoff…i read it..thats the reason i come here
to read and discuss.
Geoff,
unfortunately i dont see us scoring 5…the greek team is a one of those which will just sit back and frustrate us,they are handful on setpieces only…
Oh no, who takes his place then?
Sabeel, keep the faith, Geoff knows!
I’m gonna say 3-0.
RvP, Arsh and Cesc
bnsb u know right,
match is on zeesports here in india,hope u get it there in mangalore
Yess Geoff..i would be more than happy if i am wrong..
RVP scored at fulham,hopefully he will start the scoring…
Trollz, welcome you are now free to blog, but I didn’t understand the sun thing?
First time im in tha top percent of the comments….beware no10…but to the post: the formation u have mentioned is what i would wwant but to be honest diaby has got a place until the other frnchman comes back…wenger needs to uncover himself from whatever cloud diaby has put on him…Poor season so far for any1 Arsenal’s standards
derbyshire is not playing,got operated for hernia!
Go Geoff, that enthusiasm is infectious.You speak from the heart and from what we all want to see Arsenal as the greatest football team on Earth
Can’t wait to call my cousins in Greece and rub it in.
Sabeel,
I am stuck on Tata Sky, so no Zee Live (:
Oh you meant earth, water and fire, sorry mate, the Persian Kings asked for earth and water meaning they wanted the land from the people they asked it from, it was symbolic, fire didn’t come into it.
hard luck bnsb,hope u get working link online
Morning all!
geoff good post mate, so what hurt worse?? the prang on the aston or the 7 breaks in the arm?
Ange, tell me what he says! Don’t say I said bubble though, it was a term of endearment only!
The prang on the Aston!
we won ugly on Saturday, but we won, that for me is real progress,The real progress will be when they are able to do it more consistently
i will even accept an own goal from them….as long as we bag them 3 points! go gunners go!
Only because I was sober when I pranged the Aston!
geoff can you believe that wenger had the money and choose not to spend it’s beyond me how he feels this lot are good enough????
i just wish diaby plays in midfield,but i doubt wenger will do so,he will put diaby upfront to gain some aerial advantage
back later to see the happy banter.i hope Rosicky starts
Sabeel,
Geoff knows and we will win 5 nothing. So, I am not going to loose sleep tonight.
lol Geoff… as i expected mate!!
olypmiakos shouldnt be too much trouble, the chavs beat em 3-0 in 07-08 and before that they havent played in the CL since 98-99 from what i can see…
he had the money chose not to spend if he thinks the abuse he got at the last meeting was bad wait untill he fucks this season up again.Also he must be losing his touch at finding players because if he can’t find better players then the likes of almoonia,eboue,denilsong,bendtner he shouldn’t be at arsenal…
geoff
bnsb has blind faith in u
we’ll sign a DM in jan (probably matuidi)… with denilson fucked and song of to ACN he’ll have to buy, even wenger will have to see that
sabeel, aren’t we live on ten sports tonight?
we shouldnt take olympiakos too lightly, they play good football and stick in lots of crosses-which we have a bad record of defending against!
They also have a young Brazlian kid called Diogo, we were linked to him last year, this kid is compared to Pato of Milan and Olympiakos pulled off a real coup to sign him. At the back they have the experienced Melberg, who I always regarded as a top class Defender in his Villa days.
wengers boss
tensports is showing pools match
arsenals match is LIVE on Zeesports…inform ur cable operator to put the live event
i know its only the greek league but they won it in 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
maybe we should relocate to greece
zeesports really sucks,too bad quality video!
Sabeel
By any chance is the Carling Cup telecast on Zee Sports?
Morning and very positive post Geoff,though there appears to be a doubt over eduardo’s fitness.
Having seen the published accounts to May 09, turnover has gone up,your point about paying more and more, but having heard Wenger’s interview he has said quite plainly that the stability of the club is first and foremost to him, and has always been since he took up management.
This concerns me because the top 4 will definitely be a harder achievement this season,though one is already seeing teams like Burnley beating United and Wigan beating Chelsea, so hopefully things will balance out.
The greeks will try and kick lumps of shit out of us tonight as we undoubtedly have the skill to beat them and they always play that way.
Going back to Wenger,the january transfer window to me is far off and it doesn’t make the slightest difference who goes to the ANC if we are not in the mix.
You have to speculate in any business to accumulate and I think most on here would agree that we are at least three class players away from really having a compact title winning team,and of course endless injuries don’t help.
Automatic choices when fit for me are :sagna,gallas,vermaelen,clichy,fabregas,rosicky arshavin nasri and rvp and within a month or two eduardo.
The players not mentioned fall into two categories;
Potential to suceed;walcott,ramsey,gibbs,merida,Wilshere,Vela and bedntner
Those not good enough are eboue,song diaby(had enough chances)enough chances).
So on balance that shows why I fear we will for the next number of years be also rans.
Wenger might be right,and i wouldn’t want us to be a billion £ in debt,but a compromise has to reached if we are to be realistic. rant over.
wengers boss
zeesports pundits and commentary is sick,
dronwenger
i think arsenal vs lierpool match could be on zeesports,as it is a mammothly big one not to broadcast..
Why can’t arsene see that diaby is useless? God pls dnt let him start today.
DIABY IS SHIT!!!SHIT!!!!SHIITEEE!!!
PLEASE PLAY RAMSEY NOW!!! WENGER PLEASE PLAY RAMSEY OR ROSICKY!!!!!
I totally agree with not spending money if there is no need to….
however with Almunia in goal, Song in CM, no world class striker & Silvestre in the team there is a clear need to spend money.
If we had Given, Yaya, Villa & Zapata I would totally agree there is no need to spend money.
Wenger says he thinks this squad can win the league, well he’s either no longer the manager he was or he’s lying to protect his babies / keep tickets selling.
God I hope you’re right Geoff!, as I’m off to the Emirates tonight, first time this season (after broken elbow, and no, still can’t bend the bloody thing!!!) just back from Barcelona, came across a Pub called the Highlander managed by a Catalan Arsenal fanatic, he shows all AFC games live on his telly, I might ask for a job there and move over to Espana soon!!!
GG
of course i included ade in the 1st team ..
he was in there every week wasnt he ?
taking someone else’s spot , stunting there development …
Geoff,
fair play you were and are so cool about when you mashed up your aston. I was well gutted when i smashed up my fiat uno. I was 17 at the time though.
Good blog mate, although 5 nil is a bit strong mate
they havent won a trophy for so long now i reckon they have forgot you do win prize money for winning trophy’s.
iv’e got more chance of winning the lottery then this lot have got of winning a trophy….
Geoff
I hope O’Neill prangs his Aston Villa, & soon. That’ll leave just spuds & manchester shitty to put back in their place.
gambon; did Wenger really say that?, if he did, he is totally deluded!!!Unless…… he’s had some sort of physic vision…… but, I shall reserve my judgement until May’10. I just want to beat; Tottenham (twice and any cup game), Liverpool (twice plus Carling Cup), Chelsea (twice PL), ManUre (once PL), ManC (once PL) and I would be very very happy.
AngeAA
You aren’t Ange Postecoglou by any chance are you
Skandi be careful with that arm tonight, my arm will be in sympathy with yours!
Kelsey good morning.
BBK I’ve been bitching about him having the money for two years, he lies all the time.
Brighton it’s the same feeling as scuffing your alloys mate!
Gnarley he pranged that last season!
well Geoff I hope its groundhog day again for Fart’n Martin
Morning Grovers!
An American left a note on the site last night linking to the new American Arsenal site…
‘Be the first to know…’
Poor bastard doesn’t realise quite how shit the Arsenal site is for news.
Good post Geoff, I pranged my push bike last week and buckled the wheel… what a fucker… even more of a fucker… Leicester to Brigend for a 1430 meeting… followed by a 4 hours car ride home.
I hate my life… I might take it like all those suicide pact kids did in Bridgend…
I heard a nasty joke the other day, I’ll share it on Friday!
also geoff how the fuck does he think this lot can win the premier league???
You drive carefully Pedro, we need you on here!
Pedro g’day
Sewer side, is that like Tyneside
BBK he’s like the bloke that gets all the butt kissers blowing smoke up his arse all day long.
The emperor has no clothes…
the only weak spot in the squad now is dcm sort that and this squad could piss this league,maybe collinson and green from westham is what we need??
Geoff, I’ve got a good mind to call this cunt up and tell him I’m not coming… fancy trying to fuck up Arsenal night?
Who does this Welshman think he is?!
Gnarley… this place is miserable as fuck… I’m so gutted… I have to drive 500 miles today…
here’s another joke wenger doesn’t need to spend big because we have such an array of talent it will be a shame to hold them back just incase wenger did bring in some real talent but hey ho i suppose bringing eboue on when you are struggling against fulham is a stroke of genius remember folks wenger nose
pedro rearrange for tommorow if his serious he will wait…..work before footie never
Skandi,
Yes he said the reason he isnt spending is cos the squad is fine as it is.
It’s literally like the Lib Dems saying theyre gonna win the general election, everyone knows it cant happen.
500 miles??? like these sweaty socks
gambon that was a bit of a alan hansen moment there fella,hope it don’t bite your bum
I hear ya BBK!
Nick & if your down under, footy before sleep
about fucking time someone can geoff
sleep or sheep
gg9 your true fanatic sacrificing the amount of sleep you do in the name of arsenal
i don’t think i could or would the only thing i love more then arsenal is sleep..
If you want cheering up have a look at the work of a spurs fan who knows how to have a laugh at the expense of his own team, ’tis a work of genius’.
Episode 1 – spurs team introductions & Episode 2 – swine flu http://www.thfclatest2-matchreports.com/cocks/?m=200909 (scroll down to the bottom of the page)
Episode 3 – The North London Derby http://www.thfclatest2-matchreports.com/cocks/?p=59
failing that be content that we beat olympiakos 3-0 pre season, so should be a walk in the park for your lot. Nothing for you to really be concerned with until the end of the month.
If moderators allow then I will be back for a ‘bit of banter’.
thanks Geoff; I shall listen out for you tonight, which Quadrant do you sit above?, I’m in the ‘Orange’ Quadrant, if anywhere near, maybe you could ‘hang’ over the bannister and sing even louder?
Contrary to popular belief Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is not adverse to spending money, it’s just that he remains deeply satisfied with his current squad. Despite selling Kolo Toure and Emmanuel Adebayor to Manchester City for a combined £40 million plus, the Frenchman’s only major signing was Thomas Vermaelen who cost £10 million from Ajax.
Wenger told the Daily Mirror: “Listen, there is money to spend but at the moment I am very happy with the squad I have.”
“It’s not because I’m against spending money, I have nothing against spending money. But I do not spend money because out of tomorrow’s squad is [Samir] Nasri, [Theo] Walcott, [and Nicklas] Bendtner.”
“And yet people want me to buy strikers, but where do I put them? I don’t know. I have to then lose players, who, for me, are world class.”
“If by December we need to buy someone to add to the squad I will do it.”
“Success on the pitch is the most important by far, but success on the pitch cannot be maintained if you are in financial trouble.”
“It is true there is money and people reproach me for not losing money.”
“It is not a personal thing, it is just that I have a squad that is strong enough to compete.”
“Look at the two last players we bought – [Andrey] Arshavin and [Thomas] Vermaelen. We have spent money. When we bought Vermaelen was he a big name? Certainly not because nobody knew him.”
“When I look back at everywhere I worked, when I left the club there was money in the bank.”
“But when I see other clubs in the situation they are today I still think it is in some ways not responsible to think you walk away and the club is in deep financial trouble and there’s no future.”
what a load of bollocks…..
Skandi I’m above the North bank between the goal and the corner flag, you’re welcome to join us for a pre match peroni if you are around. I have no idea what colour quadrant I’m in!
lol BBK
What success on the pitch is he talking about? Finishing 4th again? Going into competitions we can’t win, again?
exactly geoff bollocks
but as i said when you are struggling against fulham and you got eboue coming on,that really sums it all up
Why does Arsene go to extremes to prove his point…
Spending money you have does not leave a club in financial trouble?
The only position we need sorting now is dcm, if we got a quality player there it would set the balance right by freeing cesc and allowing us to play without the handbrake on.
You cant pop wenger for the team we have now imo just his stupidity in not signing a dcm.
Again we all liked the thought of canna and his playing for sunderland and is hardly making the headlines, so i think wenger wants matudu and is waiting for him.
when he buys the players do the job so with out saying that bollocks quote i think he has some idea of what his doing in the big picture
he’s going on like if he spends 50 mill arsenal will crash and burn,they seem to of forgot you do win prize money for winning a thing you call a trophy
the only position we need sorting is dcm,yeah and the rest
I had a spud wanting to get on, mate I would put you on as you seem like a nice bloke, but I would have a riot, I’ll post your clip though.
The Harry one, I though it was funny Grovers!
http://www.thfclatest2-matchreports.com/cocks/?m=200909
bbk what positions do you think we need to act on now??
Nick sheep = New Zealand. get it right
BBK – I fear Wenger sometimes believes “prizes” are for turning out the highest net profit per financial year.
goal keeper,full back,d.m and striker
yeah that’s his prize money going into his fucking bank account
mornin All fellow Americans..
Thx for the post Geoff…and one thing the Nasri injury is a mistery ….but then again to cover up Bendtner’s drinking problem is over the top too..
ooohh how i wish we could go back to what we do best….sell..sell..sell..and then add some sauce..lie..lie..lie..i feel like im in a bad movie directed by Mr Holly Woody and co..
soo lets see if Wengers Alzheimer is not acting up too bedly this evening against a shitty greek team…though i feel we’re in for a beating..got this feeling…
well have a great day all….remember we’re Gazidis fellow americans…burger Kings all of us…God save Us All….
tom
why wont wenger drop Diaby. Every other PL manager would drop a player playing badly. Wenger is different to them. He wants Diaby to learn and improve.
By then the trophies are gone.
In the past few years when we have had players who needed to learn, we have won no trophies. when we were good, we didn’t have too many crap players, so we won things. Its not rocket science.
I am astounded by the gaffer’s interview.Why does he want to take the mick out the fans again and again?There are no better players than Diabolical and Fishface?
Come December,our injuries will mount up,and on 31st Jan,Wenger will bring in a quality player as a stop gap to seal our ‘coveted’ fourth place.We will endure a scramble for the fourth place.The same old shit will happen next season.I will save his nick ‘Le Hypocrite’ for then.
tom r u stoned
goal keeper is a possibility, full backs are quality and will improve with a bit of confidence with eboue and gibbs in reserve dont think any other team is as well stocked in that position.dm i concur. striker we have to many and he plays them out of position but the quality is there imo
so i will give you the keeper for today but striker and full backs is over the top imo
eboue and gibbs as back up are shite
my only worry…is toucwood our CBs gallas and Verminator are injury free…atleast till january..i hope..inshallah
no way bbk no way…ok
Diaby’s presence on the pitch makes Denilson look like Gattuso.What a fucking joke,Wenger!FFS,drop that headless chicken and send him to our CC team/reserves.
Tom, I feel your pain and am a little saddened by your disillusionment. I feel the negativity when I see the likes of Diaby,Denilson and (lately) Almunia turning out for my team when they are clearly not the requisite quality.
I hope for all our sakes things improve – with the emergence of Vito and perhaps Ramsey to step up and take Denilson’s place while he’s injured. We live in hope Tom – keep your pecker up, things have to go our way sooner or later trophy wise !
yes way
Well Sabeel – you are right; our biggest problem is if/when our centre back pairing is unavailable – then we are royally screwed. We really needed 2 Verminators woith one as a back up, cloning anyone ?
am glad u too agree chary..
i do hope with so much money around at our club now…wenger buys another CB in 3 months i.e Jan trasnfer window
Chary mate..
We’re good americans you should know …all americans have a direct connection to the Lord above..give Dr.Phil a call he’ll sort it out..
and us going from being a football club(a damned fine one)to an american business company is turning out so well…i guess if asking for a clone dont help..lets send in the army…that usually answers all our demands…
maybe just maybe we could clone Wenger too before he’s totally lost to alzheimers..??
tom
has anyone got the latest on our property dealings have we sold another flat ??
tom
Tom FYI
Arsenal announce their financial results for the period ending 31st May 2009
ARSENAL CONFIRMS RECORD PROFIT AND SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS ON HIGHBURY SQUARE PROJECT
·Group turnover increased to £313.3 million (2008 – £223.0 million) reflecting income generated from cup competitions and property sales.
·Match day revenue was increased to £100.1 million (2008 – £94.6 million), mainly as a result of progress to the UEFA Champions League and FA Cup semi-finals.
·Operating profits (before depreciation and player trading) in the football business were £62.7 million (2008 – £59.6 million).
·The completion of sale of 208 (2007 – Nil) private apartments at Highbury Square contributed £88.0 million of revenue (2008 – £15.2 million) and boosted the operating profit from property activities to £7.8 million (2008 – Nil).
·Profit after tax of £35.2 million (2008 – £25.7 million) was a record for the Group.
·Since the end of the financial year there have been a number of further positive developments in relation to the Group’s Highbury Square project:
-Of the 655 private apartments in the development, sales have now completed on 445 units with a cumulative sales revenue value of £172.4 million.
-The balance on the bank loan used to fund the project has been substantially reduced to £47 million and agreement has been reached to refinance the loan and extend its term to December 2010.
Commenting on the results for the year, Peter Hill-Wood, non-executive Chairman, said:
“The Group’s profits have now risen in each of the three years in which Emirates Stadium has been our home. This is excellent news although I should perhaps stress that making and reporting profits is not in itself the primary objective for the directors. First and foremost we are supporters of this great football club and, as such, our main goal will always be the achievement of success for Arsenal on the field. The Group’s profitability is important because it is a by-product of running the Club as a solvent and successful business, which in turn allows us to maximise the level of investment in the playing staff and in the future development of the Club.”
Ivan Gazidis, Chief Executive, said:
“Clearly, the Club already has a first class stadium, an excellent world-wide reputation and outstanding core support. Football is a hugely competitive and fast moving business and we must ensure that Arsenal is not just keeping pace but setting the pace, both on and off the field. The Club is superbly positioned for the future and I am tremendously excited about the opportunities we have ahead of us.”
Thanx Geoff
well we’re doing better than coca cola then,what a grand result….and dont forget we could still sell Vela come january…and in the summer we’ll sell cesc and one more…my guess Arshavin..that would help…its a shame we have already sold *the library*
and i wont back down from my mission before we start acting like a football club again…
not trying to be some sort of a Big American Company…
tom
Tom we are mostly owned by a septic now, and we have a half breed septic as CEO.
Too many ‘c’s’ in there!
Firstly Geoff getting a hummer while driving is very dangerous and should only be done on wide open yankee highways where the passing truckers can toot their horns.
Seccondly, WTF is wrong with this club and injuries??? Arsene you fucking twunt we need three pros in each spot because the first two are always down and that leaves you with your Eboue’s playing as strikers instead of your Vela’s and Walcott’s. Now you say you don’t want to buy proven players to block the progess of the youths but you are well happy to play a right back who is a bit pants anywhere else to block their progress????
You are a liar Arsene Wenger and I will not listen to your bullshit anymore, we are not all fucking sheep so just say the truth which is I have a vanity project and it involves me trying to make total footballers out of ordinary ones who have lots of pace and strength but no end product!
Arghhhhhhh!
and Geoff mate..
ive heard from a friend that we’re on Oprah this fall…thing are looking up …what an honor.!!
me personally ive been watching american football and baseball just to be prepared for whats in store for us…and damned its great..we’ll have the Jacksons as entertainment during half time…the flag waving we already have ive heard…
lets get rid of the beer’s and have free popcorn instead….i must say this is working out really great….soon very soon we’ll forget all about the points…no need to worry about that is there…
and be aware tonite we’re headed for a real beating by Zico’s army…
tom
As for tonight, Geoff if we start with this squad we would win 5-0 or 5-1
Anyfuckingkeeperasitdoesnotseemtomatter
Eboue—-Gallas—-Vermaelen—-Gibbs
—————Song
——Rosicky——–Cesc
VanPersie——————-Arshavin
—————Eduardo
yes that’s the one with a little re-velation coming on at half time for pudgy mcmidget.
Come on you reds!
Why wasnt edurdo taken to fulham???
like that team gunner8 let hope its the team we see
as always be prepared for
back 5
Fabregas-Song-Diaby
Eboue-RVP-Arshavin
that’s like playing with 2 men less
who knows Aussie… …you know it won’t happen
i rather u first choice
Arshavin hattie
so do I, so do I…. …you did ruin the Hat trick… …right l8eron
Gunner8 I think you have a typo Ramsey is spelt with an R not an S(ong)
i know it wont but i rather see ramsey then diaby
Morning!
Tom, weren’t you being very positive about our chances this season a few weeks back? What happened?
This is not a criticism, just a question.
lol zorr0 it all happened this week.Maybe it’s the side effect of watching too much of Wenger’s lovechilds’ fuck ups.
Who would stay optimistic optimism if they see a headless chicken a.k.a Diaby,stealing the balls from Fabregas and Arshavin,week in week out?
When I see A turn pessimistic I know we are in trouble!
The silicon chip inside his head, got switched to overload.
Wenger made one mistake yesterday…he showed us which team will paly tomorrow..let me explain..the clips of the team training yesterday had players in yellow and blue…the players in yellow were
vela,rvp, AA, diaby, rosicky, cesc, gibbs, silvestre, TV, sagna and ???? i didn’t see the keepers…
blue was song, eduardo, eboue, ramsey, gallas, wilshere, walcott, traore…
i think the yellow plus mannone is the team playing…..
diaby should be taken to task by wenger to play simple football…
but then..simple football is not what wenger is looking i guess
lol chozzer! Watch out for Tom hiding in the water tower by London Colney!
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Zorr0 mate
im just trying my darnest to *fit* in,in these days of business…better keep up or be left behind..from now on..its the American way or the highway mate…its not about football anymore..its about turnovers,development and future investments…and of course making good dollars for Mr Holly Woody…
just wish we could come up with a cure for Wenger’s alzheimers(not lying)maybe ill ask Dr.Phil ?
tom
ill be ok Zorr0…as long as i dont drift up on the wrong side of Thames mate..;)if i do.. please just put me to sleep…im not up for the Italian mafia thats for sure
tom
Fuck me, a Rat’s fan!
The way you guys feel about Diaby is how I feel about Song!
Flex, welcome, you are now free to blog.
Geoff,if we think Song is better than Diaby,imagine how worse Diaby is
Geoff what do you think about Diaby then?
Geoff that was my felings about Willie Young mate..back in the days…
tom
Diaby is the only one from Denilson, Song and Diaby that has genuine talent and scoring ability, he just has no brains, Song is clueless and has zero talent or pace and Denilson is a bottler and just not very good.
Geoff,
What’s your feeling about cesc. his whole body language is wrong,as if he has something on his mind,which is affecting his game,though the through pass at Fulham was exquisite. Any thoughts.
Denilson and Song puts in their best of efforts,despite their obvious lack of talent.But Diaby is a le sulk,who makes a pass,when he has to keep the possession,and loses the possession,when he has to pass,despite running like a headless chicken all over the park,and stealing the ball of his own team mates.I wonder what Wenger sees in him.If Wenger had given half the number of chances to Julio Beastista,he would have scored 40 goals,the next season,after he left.
Wenger wants to prove a point with Diaby,which he will duly fail.
Arsene says he won’t be rushed into the transfer market. How about a slow, but considered amble then?
Why would Cesc,Arshavin be happy when they have a sub standard midfield at the heart of the park?
I can envisage two scenarios
1)Our midfield lacking options come January,and Arsene still ranting about the desire,hunger and belief in his sub standard players like Diaby,recruiting none and eventually crashing out of the top four
2)Song is off to ACN,and Arsene has to sign a panic buy,paying over the odds for a defensive midfielder,who could’ve costed peanuts last summer.
Ideally,I would like to see
1)None of our defenders(except fishface) getting injured,and Arsene signing a defensive midfielder and a CB,to keep us in contention for the titles.
I know,that WONT happen.
Jaguar, he wants to prove a point with Song, Denilson, Diaby, Eboue and Almunia and it will cost us again, for the 5th year, it’s gone past stubborn, it’s now stupidity.
Kelsey I’m hoping it’s his game face as captain, either that or he wants out, Henry did it and so did Ade.
Say no more!
imagine your a sou chef and you spend time and care cutting the food just right and pass it on to the head cheff who just burns it or covers it in Tommy sauce would you still put as much effort in to your job??
Ramsey as a DM would be awful.
As much as im not a huge fan, at the present time Song has to be in there (until we get a better DM)
cesc is the captain and should be the inspiration to the team.
Eboue should be kept behind every day after training just to practice how to cross and shoot.say two hours a day for at least a month, then we might have a half decent player,as he does have some good positional play and the diving is diminishing.
How can a manager like Wenger get away with his calamity of not starting Arshavin against Chelsea in the FA Cup semis,which costed us the cup?I cant believe that he considers his personal agenda above team’s success.
my team.
Mannone.
Eboue(Rest Sagna)- Senderos(Rest Gallas)- Vermaelen- Clichy.
Rosicky- Song- Cesc.
RVP- Eduardo- Arshavin.
Arsenal, 3-1.
AW’s Team.
Mannone.
Sagna- Gallas- Vermaelen- Clichy.
Cesc- Song- Diaby.
Eboue- RVP- Arshavin.
Still OK, but not what I want.
Wilshere, Vela and Ramsey should get a run in to boost their confidence.
Jaguar..Alzheimer..my friend…alzheimer…thats why
tom
So now we know Gambon is from Africa!
I am starting to believe it ,Tom.But I believe thats not the case,because it doesnt prevent him from starting his love child Diabolical every game.His agenda would be complete,if he starts fishface ahead of Senderos today.
Fishface,is the worst player to have ever worn a red and white jersey(even diaby is better).Mr.Wenger wants to piss Senderos off,and vindicate his decision of having gone for that senile mancunian outcast.
Nick nice analogy there,perfectly sums it up.
goalkeepers and centre backs dont really need a rest. Every other position does. I’d say its worth giving clichy the odd game off for Gibbs.
sagna has been rested a few times so why no Clichy who has been playing worse.
song wont get a rest now Den is F****d.
Now you see I think Song is the worst player to have worn an Arsenal shirt.
What about resting Song and replacing him with an inanimate object, like an armchair or a plutonium rod like Homer saved the space shuttle with.
It can’t be worse, can it?
in midfield for my arsenal supporting carer i will go with that as well Geoff
thanks jon at least someone read it
geoff y dont u guy reply hard those stewards… if i ever have a chance to visit uk and watch arsenal game at emirates i wont give shit to they say… you have paid for fucking environment else u could have watched it at home
why s wenger so nterested n the money side of thngs. his job is to make this team as strong as possible. if there is 40 million available and we have a chance of buying a better player than say nasri. fukin buy him. get rid of nasri .simple. its about havin the best players to try and win things and if we have the money get them. we wont win anything with song and diaby,eboue, denilson anywere near our midfield. check all the other top europeans midfield against them 4 and have a laugh
Bit radical this… but could verminator not be converted like petit was into a classy tough tackling central holding midifield destroyer?
Geoff, English born & bred.
We need someone with a bit of physicality & defensive qualities in MF.
Ramsey is more AM than DM.
faceman you been cyber surfing and now trying to pedal it off as your own thoughts bad pose dude bad pose
?? nick??
Football FanCast guest columnist Tim Penrice feels that Wenger should look to move Vermaelen into a midfield role.
One thing that always surprises me about Arsene Wenger is how freely he continually plays players out of position and yet it is rarely of any detriment to the team and the way we play. Bendtner, Walcott, Nasri, Arshavin and Eboue are just some of the many players that have filled in at different roles in which their employment was originally intended.
As I say you can’t argue as Arsenal get the desired results, however the defensive midfield role is one that Wenger doesn’t seem to be able to fill, no matter who he plays there. Denilson, Song and even Nasri have all been given the opportunity to play alongside Fabregas and yet neither has really made a great fist of it, or dispel the common belief that it is one area that really needs addressing in the transfer market.
It really is and for a long time I haven’t actually felt the real weakness has been the centre of the defence, as others have prior to this season, but the fact that they are continually exposed by the lack of cover in midfield. Saturday was another classic example and had it not been for Vito Mannone then we would have come a cropper as Fulham continually played through us far too easily leaving Gallas and Vermaelen to try and break up the attacks. It is certainly not ideal and against other clubs it could end up costing us dear.
The solution to the problem for me lay in our central defence partnership and a certain Thomas Vermaelen as personally I couldn’t think of a better footballer to take on the midfield role and provide that foil for Fabregas. Vermaelen has been in sensational form for us this season, however as well as being strong defensively he has proven he has got another string to his bow as an attacking force and he is extremely comfortable with the ball at his feet and certainly can pick a pass. Although his loss to the defence will be obvious, I just wonder whether the presence of a strong player like Vermaelen in the midfield will provide that defensive barrier and allow Wenger to move Song into the backline or give Senderos another chance alongside Gallas. At the end of the day Vermaelen being in the defence is not stopping teams opening us up and that is the real problem that Wenger needs to resolve and moving up from the back four may seem an audacious move, but I believe it will be one that will bring its rewards and hopefully bring some much needed stability into the midfield.
Gooner Pak I’ve done that and been kicked out twice!
Faceman I said that in a post last week, I think he’d be perfect and that Gambon could be the answer.
People think Song is big and strong, I think he’s clumsy and slow, and when we need him to make a decisive tackle he fouls the guy and they get a free kick in a dangerous area.
Great post Geoff, always love your pre-match posts… Ramsey has to feature in this one…
maybe its a coincidence
Nick, I’d give that a go Song at the back and Vermaelen in midfield, he might work there and can’t be worse, Vermaelen on the other hand could be perfect!!!!
Thanks Mayank!
could work
sags gallas senderos clichy
TV
lol, nick, that is really is pure coincidence… when is that article from?
i agree,geoff…. he just seems far too classy to be just a centre back, although at the minute we nobody else to fill his void and i very much doubt it will happen anyway as he is doing so well at the back.
maybe in season to come.
then what is the idea to watch game in stadium…arsenalisation will not come by just putting posters and stuff
think song could do well in defence sure but lets give phill a chance he played well there with gallas untill kolo come back from the acn
yeah, tbf sendross was doing well back then, we were top of the league etc and then it all came tubmling down and his mistakes crept back in.
he is about as pure a confidence player you will ever see, which is surprsiing for somebody who would appear to be so mentally strong… which he clearly can’t be if he cannot handle pressure.
I wouldn’t dare touch the Gallas Verm partnership… I think Gallas could be rested for what may be an easy home game… He did take a lot of knocks on saturday…
Does anyone think Sendy will be given a chance, Silver is always on the bench instead of him… Seems to me Wenger has his mind made up about him… But i wouldn’t take his word on a defender, look how bad he fucked up with Verm, he’s our top scorer…
Absolute bollocks Geoff! McGoldrick was far worse than Song!
song has not been one of our poorer performers this season.
he does his job.
almunia, clichy, even cesc have all been worse performers so far this season.
How about Trevor Ross, David Price, Brian McDermott, David Hillier (Although if Jimmy Case had not done him at the Dell, he would have played v Gazza at Wembley in 91 and we would have won the double that year!) Johnny Jensen, Richie Powling, Steve Gatting, Peter Nicholas, Ian Allinson……
Fuck me we have had some dross over the years!
i give you
ian fucking selley
Credit to Pricey for the goal at Wembley in 79 though and Allinson is a leg end for the equaliser v the scum in 87; What a night that was!
Nah Face, not having that! Selley was shaping up to be a quality midfielder in the Ray Parlour mould before he broke his leg. I still remember hearing it break when it happened at THOF!
Afternoon all,
Great rallying post! 3-0 for me btw!
Geoff/Pedro et all, S&B this evening what time?
zorro, can’t agree i’m afraid, he was a plodder, energetic like romford pele, but lightweight and very average in the passing department.
& I raise you a David Hillier
Sorry Zorro didn’t read your post.
if i had to choosed between selley and hillier i would opt for the former.
both were sub standard but selley shaded hillier who was crab football at its very best.
for me songs still worse then that lot,they were from an ere we never knew any better and were as good as most around in other teams.
Now i know songs shite and theres better out there that we can have and theres far better around in most teams doing his job well
Let us not forget the great Steven Morrow
at least he won us something
Song is amongst the best DMs in the world.
behave
No Nick, we won despite him, not because of him. Song IMO is a far better player, but then so was Chris Kiwomya and even Caballeros
jusr hope we get to see at least 30 mins from vela tonight
he is the player that excites me more than any other gunner, far more than wilshere.
he could be a proper proper world class striker soon.
Wenger say’s no need to spend,he must have been speaking to Glen Hoddles -Eileen,he’s completely lost it if he thinks the players he mentioned are good enough,no silverware again 10tens on .
br im sure he scored the winner but haho,im not really that botherd if you like song or not for me his slow all round top to toe
For those who did not attend the Carling cup game, Senderos picked up a yellow card after a WBA player knocked the ball past him, and Sendy knew he had NO chance of catching him so he took him out very cynically. OK so he did the right thing because it could have been a goal but it exposed Senderos’ flaw – basically lack of pace. He always has a big mistake in him every match.
song is slow and again not that good at reading the game and as the last line of defence could be worse then senders,at least he had the sense to take him out…he did learn something from Italy after all
I swore at the WBA match and because there were so many kids in, I got a really bad look from in front of me. I really think you should be allowed to swear at a football match. Its turning me right off.
Next year,you can hopefully change your name to Our year 10/11.This has been happening for the past few years.Every year,the same old trash.
1)Our boys have the hunger,desire
2)Our main aim is to keep everyone in the current squad only to see two or three players sold in the same window.
3)We will bring in players,who I feel would add value to our squad,and incomes Shitvestre.
What a fucking hypocrisy!
a point on Aaron Ramsey. His natural game is probably slightly more attacking than defensive but he has the intelligence to defend if it is required by the boss.
He played at full back for Cardiff for a while. You could NEVER imagine Diaby being anywhere close to disciplined enough to play at full back.
Glen Helder, I seem to recall travelling to the mancs and us getting tonked 3-0 or something and he was absolutely shite!
I cant ever imagine Diaby being anywhere close to the PITCH,in a top four team,apart from Arsenal.
FCUK or French Connections in UK apparently refers to the Arsene-Diabolical bondage.
Zorr0 Eddy is a mate of mine! Really, he is, trouble with Eddy is he was bought as a sweeper but played out of position in midfield.
Gambon, Song is the worst player to ever put on an Arsenal shirt. You must be from the Cameroon, I’m going to check your IP address!
Arsene, there was me – one of the idiots who adds to your marvellous kitty every year – thinking you were a football manager. If you want to manage a bank then fuck off to a bank.
Although the ‘Bank of Arsenal’ does have a certain ring to it..
jaquar
i agree with your other comment above cause this shit always happens and wenger allways states the same shit year by year such as,i have money and i will buy and did he buy what we needed??? hell to the fucking no thats my answer.
Zorro. I was at THOF for Helder’s first game, and I can tell you that his first touch of the ball was just fantastic. We thought we had a superstar. How wrong we were !
I agree with everything apart from RVP up top 1 goal in how many games? I’d prefer the best finisher 2 be our fox in the box 2 actually be in the box
NOW CAN WE AS A MATTER OF URGENCY GET ONE TOUGH NO NONSENSE SORCERER FROM BENIN, ZANZIBAR OR NIGERIA FOR ADEBAYOR …..
Read on….
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Sport says the magician, who prefers to remain anonymous, has already made Real Madrid aware of the situation through a letter.
He told Sport: “I am not antimadridista. I have nothing against this great club. I am a professional and paid very well for using my powers.
“I’ve been hired to make Cristiano Ronaldo suffer a serious injury. I cannot say what the injury will be, but he will be sidelined for longer than he is playing.
“The person who hired me is personally acquainted with the famous footballer.”
yeah helder was awesome when he first joined, he linked up well with wrighty and looked another limpar in the making.
arsenalkenya that is fucked up shit
I just find Wenger extremely irritating when he talks about the clubs finances he patronizes and generalizes ideas like when he says ”every1 wants us 2 buy strikers but we have 4 here already” He knows damn well that’s not the case he knows we’ve been asking 4 a DM as the top priority. And what’s is it about his love he’s got 4 the French and African Silvestre on the bench ahead of Senderos, Diaby ahead of Merida, Eboue ahead of Wilshire and Vela it’s disgusting surely that’s institutional racism?
i remember being at highbury many years ago and winderburn taking a throwin to glen helder and helder fuking it right up. i had a seat pretty close to to the sideline. winderburns exact words were for fucks sake catch yourself on to him. it was funny at the time
Raddy were you pissed? I was at that game and remember him bombing down the wing and losing it!
Wasn’t that the same game that Chris Kim…..whatever his name was made his debut from Ipswich as well?
Odub, I’ll be there, 6.30ish?
Lol, easy Geoff, i was messing with you guys!
Im as anti-Song as they come, and im not talking about my Karaoke skills.
4-1 is what I think. Walcott will play and hopefully he’ll get a goal. That’s nmy guess. Three points are a must. http://bobbygee.wordpress.com/
Geoff, no way! Well sorry mate, but he was my Song at the time, never rated him at Palace and he did nothing to change my opinion when he joined. Heard some stories about him being a bit of a ‘Charlie Big Potatoes’ as well. To me he seemed just the sort of player that GG should not have been signing in order to take us to the next level. I will never forgive GG for not making us the man utd of the 90′s.
That said, EMG had a decent game away to Liege, lol!
Raddy, yeah I remember thinking GG had signed another Marwood/Limpar only to discover he was another Brian McDermott!
Grovers I’m off to the gym to make room for what I’m going to receive tonight. Catch you all later.
later geoff
If wenger carries on managing like a dick, Cesc will just get pissed off and leave. Arshavin will leave as well.
Wenger could be forced out if that happens. The crowd wont be happy.
I dont believe Cesc leaving is a foregone conclusion. OK maybe he has kept the door open to spain, but of course you would do. If Arsenal gave him everything he needs he would stay. I just think wengers failure to strengthen the team as well as his insistence on pairing Cesc with shit like Diaby will make him leave in the summer.
If wenger ends up going I think we can move forward as a club. sure he gave us a lot and he still does, but he also holds us back.
Look at the other big English clubs, they change manager – some of them do it fairly often – and yet they have all been more successful than us for a number of years now. I dont think its true that wenger is the only one who can manage Arsenal, and most managers have had to manage on a shoestring budget for most of their careers. The Chelsea nad Man City business models are very rare in football.
gazzap, chill, we have made a good start to the season.
wait until xmas before making silly statements without any facts to back em up.
Hi Geoff
Just getting ready to go and do my bit for The Arsenal.
Lets get behind the boys tonight as I reckon thee could be a few empty seats if the last 2 games are anything to go by.
Unfortunately pal the Stewards are not allowed to back off as someone is watching them watching you guys and they will get booted if seen doing nothing.
I will be there with all you guys lucky enough to be going to the game and I will get excited and jump around when we score. They will catch me one day and my Arsenal days will be numbered.
Never mind as long as its worth it.
Can someone start my idea for a song for Arshavin, it goes like this.
Andre Andre Arsh avin Andre Ar shavin Andre of ARSENAL. Sing it very slow and loud. I think it is a Russian Jewish song and I don’t know the name but I keep singing it to myself and I think it is Simples and catchy.
Up The Gunners.
Faceman, its how I and many other gooners feel. You think the empty seats is all down to the recession?
This recession is very convenient for wenger.
Its not about 8 games or what he has done since July, Its about 4 or 5 years worth of slowly taking the club backwards, when there has been no need to with all our money sloshing about waiting to be spent.
Tom @10:52: Stop with the fuckin “american” bullshit..sound like a fuckin whinging child..besides your stereotypes aren’t even funny..wanna wrap yourself in a flag/agenda, find one of those nut case blogs oout there..plenty of them!
so, gazzap, are the empty seats at old trafford down to….ermmm?
any ideas?
i have to admitt i realy have my doughts that this young team have enough to win the prem,just feel they will run little short solely because there is lack of experience,hwen i look at chelsea and manu they have abit more experience in central role and i think will make the different i still think we can win something but winning prem is going to be tall order,nasri ,rambo song players like that will play pivital role and wenger need to buy another more experienced midfielder evon if its on loan. i think will play 4-1-2-3 for mation and i hope to see rambo and fab play togther i hope to see vela play some part in the game he is fresh and i would gve aa rest and play wintshire play some part and the same risicky
lol at “all the money”
very funny and very ironic… that ir, could have been mor.
Faceman, liked your points theother day, very lucid and well thought out. Keep up the good work, i.e. positive support but tempered with rational criticism of AW and the club without any mental tourettes style slagging!
Afternoon all..
whats happening?
not much, the usual slagging off of our greatest ever manager.
we remain bottom of the league without any prospects of success.
oh how i wish we could be a big club and look forward to champions league nights.
that nasty nasty frenchman has a lot to answer for.
look on the bright side at least you will be able to see eboue and song tonight
Look at the other big English clubs, they change manager – some of them do it fairly often – and yet they have all been more successful than us for a number of years now.
Big Statement Gazzup….which teams are you referring to?
So Man U’s attendance in the last home match was 75,066. the one before that was 75,095 and their first game of the season was 75,062.
They sold out all their home games, carling cup excepted. They dont work out their attendance like Arsenal where we include all SOLD tickets even if they dont turn up.
So Faceman, which empty seats were you talking about?
bbk! Good point, tiniged with sarcasm i believe???
tinged even!
6-0 tonight to the Gunners.
gazzap take a look at the carling cup game last week.
btw – arsenal have sold out every home games this season, the only one that was not fully attended was wigan….
did you see how many fans they brought? big clue there.
nope
So…who on here has joined the Le-Grove facebook group??
bbk..nope??
Michael, I am thinking Chelsea, changed managed what is it 4 times, and finished above us each time. Liverpool have taken in Benitez – he has finished above wenger a few times.
I dont know if you missed my point, but it was around the fact that there is a fear that if we replace our manager we will be doomed. That somehow wenger is the only manager capable of managing. But he has sold that perception to you. some people are good at that – making you feel that without them you would fail badly.
We wouldn’t fail badly. we would move forward. for a start twats like Diaby wouldn’t get to pull on an Arsenal shirt.
nothing better then seeing eboue ripping through the opposition and song stopping them in there tracks it’s the highlight of going arsenal these days
how many times has rafa won the league?
or is winning the league finishing above the mighty arsenal?
and denilsong,eboue gazzap
Yes I mentioned the carling cup game in my comment. read it properly.
if a new manager came in tomorrow,how many of the current players do you think he would keep??????????
afternoon all… anyone know if we have the option to build on the grove?
Missing the point again. I am saying there are other managers in the world that can manage Arsenal. We wont disappear into an abyss.
wenger has tried to make himself indispensible to the club. I dont think Gazidis likes that – its not healthy.
People shouldn’t fall into the trap that somehow losing wenger would be the end of the world.
I know I want Arsenal to move forward once again, but wenger’s stubborness is holding us back now.
Lets see what happens by May – but I have been saying that exact same sentence for 4 years now.
looks like theo will miss out tonight
BBK
he’d keep almost all of them but add to them and have players like song, eboue and bendter as what they should be… back up
gazzap if wenger left,the emirates would come crumbling down into a heap of dust,god help us if that happens
so ,gazzap, what empty seats YOU on about?
aide from the wigan fans who did not turn up?
i think there would be a major clear out i.m.o
is the blackburn game still on general sale???????
stupid U21′s to blame for that.. but i think we’ll see him on sunday or after the internationals
well, he couldn’t sack all the players but a new manager can make a number of changes quite quickly. Bad players would never get in the team again. Over a couple of years, quality players would come into the team.
teams change managers all the time. Arsenal are a big club.
Gazzup…you make a fair point – although there is no need to get defensive, i merely asked you to back up your point (which, to be honest, I don’t think you have, one reason being that you can’t really compare Chelsea’s scenario to ours and the second that Liverpool finishing 3rd, isn’t that much of a greater achievement) Also, don’t make the assumption that he has sold that perception to me…you don’t know me, nor have I stated that that is how i see AW.
So, that’s the end of that conversation!
bbk – no, wrong again, you are good at that
sold out i’n afraid to say
The games have all gone to general sale this season. Its a big change from just a couple of years ago when Red members couldn’t get tickets. The demand has definitely got softer.
The Emirates isn’t even full when they announce 60,000. we can all see the empty seats.
Many boxes are being sold on a game by game basis. take a look at the boxes on Sunday. half will be empty.
Gazzup…there are bad players in pretty much every team in the Prem.
Are you saying that before AW there were no bad players at Arsenal?
wrong about what face
It would depend on the new managers style on which players he likes. Hopefully he would get rid of the shit and lazy players and get a winning mentality back into the club.
wrong about tickets on sale for the blackburn game, thought that was obvious considering i then posted it was sold out.
deary me, we have some right sharp knives on here.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/29092009/58/premier-league-redknapp-eyes-modric-return.html
i guess Nasri had a similar injury and yet no news of him coming back!!!!!!!!!!!!
spurs was on red sale i think?
alright calm down you prick the last time i checked they were on general sale
Seriousl medical problems at arsenal. Nasri out for longer than first said and Denilsons injury mis diagnosed. As well as numerous stupid muscle injuries that should be easily prevented. somethings gotta be dont ’bout it.
Michael, I should have said, wenger has tried to sell that perception to Arsenal fans. I think it has worked well overall from his point of view.
I dont think I am getting defensive.
this has nothing to do with wanting what chelsea or liverpool have got or being jealous of them or their manager. Its about saying big clubs change managers frequently – and big clubs remain – and big clubs win things.
I dont want Arsenal fans to feel that wenger is the be all and end all. I know the big question people always ask when we are having a bad time is ‘But who else can come in and do a better job’.
Well it hasn’t affected the other 20 massive european clubs who have changed their managers in the last 5 years. We cant do any worse than no trophies can we?
There are always top quality managers available and Arsenal are a very attractive club.
apology accepted
What goes on in the treatment room is still a mystery to me. Our players just dont come back from it quickly
gazzap as long as wenegr remains in charge of arsenal we will continue to win nothing,he’s had his day it’s time for him to move over and et the next person in
it was a rather tongue in cheek response, underlying piss take of you.
seems it had the desired effect….whoooosh
something go over your head, bbk, again?
fight fight fight!
whos fighting???
Let me ask a straight-forward question to anyone still here. If we finish 5th, would you rather Wenger left in the summer or Cesc and Arshavin left in the summer?
Would Cesc follow Wenger out too Gazzap?
I would chose Wenger to go.
as wenger has failed to ever get us out of the top 4 in almost 14 seasons… that is not something that worries me.
i would be more worried about rafa, he has never won the league and HAS finished outside the top 4
gazzap thats a bitch of a question,dont know is my honest answer
stu you want cesc to go??
a question. i live in ireland and i am thinking of getting a flight over for one of the home games. wats the chances of gettin a ticket outside the ground. not paying them robbin fuks on the intenet 200 quid
So, in conclusion….
I’ve been reading Le-Grove for a couple of years now…and, it’s been fun and informative etc etc but, I have to say that over the last few months things have got VERY NEGATIVE on here – not everyone ofcourse, I have met some top people on here, but overall, there is way too much negativity… and to be honest, it’s just like reading the same thing over and over again……so I’ll go back to reading the posts and leaving it there. BBK, DDM, Irish Gunner, TAIG, Timao, and all of the other lovely munglers I forgot…..be lucky, was a pleaure debating with you all
So, to Geoff and Pedro…keep up the good work, the posts are brilliant!
You have the best blog about the Gunners, by far!
tular mmp
Nick, take care pal – i knew i forgot to mention someone!!!!
any answers
Michael, I haven’t notice it get any more negative on here than its always been! Its never been a place for the AKB’s.
I hope this quick debate hasn’t repelled you enough not to return?
Hypothetically, in my poser, Cesc would stay if wenger goes though I realise in reality that is not necessarily true.
I would rather we keep Arsh and Cesc than Wenger (if you hadn’t guessed!)
he finished outside the top 4 but won the CL, which did get them into the CL next year anyway.
nn, you are better off getting a ticket off the AISA http://www.aisa.org/ or off the Le GRove ticket exchange. Heck they are even on general sale for most games these days. I wouldn’t use a tout though – you can get nicked for that.
any answers to my 16-36pm question please
nn try le exchange top right side bar
thanks gazzap
Gazzup, another one i forgot to mention.
Nothing to do with your little debate mate, in fact you’re one of the few whose comments I actually read through, as you may have noticed today!
Nah, it’s just that overall, I feel there are too many negative and samey debates to merit blogging on here (but, then agin, I wont be blogging on any other arsenal site either) – but I always have and will continue to read the posts.
Geoff and Pedro…I tip my hat in your general direction sirs.
Gazzup…I’d actually much rather AW left instead of Cesc and AA…and of that, I have no doubt! Be lucky my friend, all the best
i given diaby alot stick simply because when i see him see player with huge amount raw ability but zero with it,i dont think he is good player at all just because he has raw ability means nothing its what you do with that ability the hard work you put in on a consistant basis,players like song,flamani carrick does posses the natural ability he has but they put the work in forthe team,this was diaby chance to shine and what i have seen of him i would give rambo,wintshire and nasri the nod over him everytime.
for this game tonoght i would evon consider giving cesc a rest and palying song rambo and risicky in the middle
el, if you’re still there you’re thinking of the Hava Nagila, a jewish folk song for your Arshavin chant.
I quite liek it
Some ridiculous predictions here. Olympiakos have conceded 2 goals in 10 games
Arent they the greek champions too? Even still…i think we should easily beat them. Difference in quality and all that…
Why is it so quiet on here…of a match day no less.
Anyone watching the Inter match? Just turned it on and its 1-0 to Rubin (the russian champions).
1-1 now. Stankovic far post header.
Big round of aplause to all the backslapping Wenger apologists out there. Two days ago we were skint. Now what’s the excuse. Maybe it’s time to show some ambition…
Now,they have come up with the new term long term stability.
are we bottom of the league already?
No,but we are already without one of our so called defensive midfielders,and an injury away from seeing calamity a.k.a fishface in the central defence.Why the heck doesnt Mr.Wenger give a chance to Senderos?Senderos on one leg is far better than fishface.
About Silvestre i’d like to say that if one of our CBs were to get injured then i wouldn’t be too worried to see him there… I’d prefer Sendy but the fact is most of Silvs bad performances came playing with Djourou(very inexperienced though telented), with a top defender besides him i think he’ll do okay… He doesn’t have the pace he doesn’t commit too many individual mistakes… Again i’d rather we had a Johnny Evans type backup but I’m not too worried…
Like some one asked yesterday,why dont our shit players ever get injured?
I would rather Sagna play CB than Silvestre. Wenger is just an idiot for not having adequate defensive cover or DM cover. It was obvious we were gonna get injuries.
They do, no-one notices… We have a rotational injury system in place..
I wouldnt have been worried either if I were an unambitious twat,who would be satisfied with a CL place/UEFA cup spot.This team has the potential to achieve it if Mr.Wenger opens his eyes and tell Diaby to fuck off and play every single player in their respective positions.
Our shit players never get injured because they are the ones injuring the god ones?
Apart from compulsive CB collectors Pool and Chelsea not many sides have top CB cover, how much worse is Sendy from Johnny Evans… As for DM cover in case of injury i wouldn’t mind seeing Cesc – Nasri – Rosicky…
Rotational or not,Diabolical would be there before every important match.He should consider himself the luckiest man in the world.He would easily win Euromillions,considering his current luck
But Cesc, Rosicky and Nasri are all attack minded players. We need a defensive mind in midfield to balance it out.
Nasri is not a DM,FFS.Why cant Mr.Wenger be open to that truth.We’ve already got a clueless chicken a.k.a Eboue,for all his bad luck,should blame Wenger.
RB,RM,LM.CAM.CDM.What else has he played?talk about tinkering.
Jaguar why the name-calling?
Must be because of you’re inability to string a rational argument together…
I’ll be back in a bit…
Agreed Jaguar. It amazes me that Diaby gets to play in all our most important games. And even when he is returning from an injury he gets preference ahead of other, more deserving players.
Stu all 3 attack as well as defend they can do a job…
Really am off
I didnt mean it at you,Mayank.I am frustrated time and again watching fishface ahead of Senderos and Diabolical.
Evans gets worked when he plays for Ireland. Weiss destroyed him
The only example I can point out similar to Diabolical is Ryan Babel,that both of them run like headless chicken all over the park.But he doesnt snatch the ball off his own team mates,like Diabolical.
Babel also plays less so has less of a negative influence and doesnt play in an as important position as Diaby.
Babel is also more usefull to Liverpool, he gets goals and some assists.
Am I the only person,who would feel like pelting stones at the big screen,once I see Diabolical in the starting eleven.
one again i have to disagree with you nasri may have bought as a winger has demontrated on several occation his versitlity he plays for france dm position he can play both flanks and he can central i dont what gave the idea is solely an attacking player he played several times in deeper role and looks very good there too,there is no dought about attacking ability but is more than capeble playing in deeper role when needed same for rambo
No but the sooner we recognise we’re in a dog fight the better. We, for one reason or another have five regulars who would struggle to get into the scum’s first team.
Playing deep and playing defensive are different.Playing in a deep position doesnt necessarily mean,a player is a defensive mid.Pirlo is a deep lying play maker,and he has a monster named Gattuso alongside him.
leon, Nasri has NEVER played DM for France. Thats by far the most absurd thing I’ve heard for awhile now
Diaby,Denilson,Eboue(as a RM),Song(unfortunately) wouldnt get into the first eleven of any European championship winning side.
Xavi is classified as a deep-lying playmaker too
Xavi has Toure/Keita alongside him.
That makes no difference Jaguar. He’s not defensive and neither is Nasri. We saw nasri’s defensive side in that 5-1 loss against CHelsea
the way i see it just team work if wayn rooney,carrick,giggs what make think that players like rambo and nasri cant play there its just matter putting your shift in for the team,it does matter if there are bought as a attacker does not mean they dont know how track back and put in a few tackles injuries happaen some players have play out of position and they are preperd to work hard for team thats exacly what happens at manu you just because wayn rooney and giggs are attackers they dont play in defensive role when needed
Mannone
Diaby
Fab
Verm
Rosicky
gallas
vp
arshavin
song
clichy
eboue
ROSICKY STARTS! EDDIE ON BENCH
Would you attribute injuries to Mr.Wenger selecting,Diabolical ahead of Vela,Ramsey?
Diaby again?This is fucking ridiculous.He might have a good game today.I don’t know.But he really should have been dropped today after his performance against fulham.What does ramsey have to do to get an oppurtunity
FFS,Diaby again in the line-up.
On a positive side we get to see arshavin rosicky cesc and RVP together
wtf are diaby & eboue starting? How can he drop sagna and not clichy? Walcott isn’t even on the bench..
Wtf do ramsey, vela and gibbs got to do ffs.. Wenger is a mug..
Balotelli off
pat nari has play there for france a few times either dm or central midfielder and its just matter of keeping possesion and working hard putting tackles,i will never understand that just because nasri was bout as a winger he cant track back and cant put in the tackles,as for 5-1 defeat last time i checked its team perfoamce we drew 4-4 with liverpool and song was one of arsenal best players so that means nothing
Bench:
Scz
Sagna
Senderos
Eduardo
Vela
Ramsey
Gibbs
You’re starting to believe too much your own tripe. The funny things is that your “headless chicken” criticism was leveled for 3 years in a row against Flamini who came good in his last year.
Diaby has potential and since he went to the gym he is much more physical and extremely active on the pitch (our most prolific tackler from far). He is not that far from being very good, a little bit more focus and that’s it.
Slating young players all the time is fun but after a while you forget to remove your blinders. The real questions are:
1) Will Arshavin bother to play?
2) Any chance that Cesc won’t give every third ball to the opposition?
fuckkkkkk…not diaby again.. what does he have to do to get dropped???
Senderos instead of silvestre
walcott is playing a friendly with the olympiakos reserves and so are watt wilshere and others!
To be fair, Diaby on his day is near unplayable. If he wasnt consistently inconsistent he would arguably be our most important player. I can see him having a good game today though
Diaby fucking starting yet again! What a fucking cunt! Wenger is wrecking my head by comstantly playing that fucker who never does anything. This might be Diabys one good game in 5 or whatever but im still not happy he is playing.
If you play anyone enough they will improve. Thats what Wenger is doing with Diaby like he has done with other average players in the past.
Walcott is probably just finding his fitness + form back…. I want to see Gibbs given a go too…
On the plus side, I can’t wait to see Rosicky and Arshavin link up…
That was last night choy. We won 3-1.
Matt, Diaby isnt young anymore. He is 23 ffs. If he hasnt found his focus after 4 years here then he probably never will. Just sell him…its the best for both.
Saying diaby on his day is unplayable is a bit too much.He has his great moments during a match.I don’t remember him having many awesome 90 minutees
Sell him by paying some clubs around 20 million pounds.
oh shite.. did walcott play?
Thats exactly right Nish. Diaby doesnt have great matches…he has a great moment in a match and doesnt make an obvious mistake and everyone says he was brilliant.
diaby plays better at home, hope he has a blinder!
Where is the link to the starting lineup?
Some say Rosicky is starting others say its Diaby…..who is it>?
Looks like arshavin will be playing wide right
Ja.. both
go to uefa.com
Yeah, Jeorge Birds arsenal youth said Theo got an assist for Sunu, Frimpong scored a penalty and a murphy header.
Diaby again….for fucks sake! Clearly form is something wenger doesnt consider when picking the team.
Who is gonna play where of Rosicky, Diaby and Arshavin. Arshavin will surely be left or right. But that means Rosicky on the other wing. Rosicky is best in the middle but so is Diaby. One of them on the wing. Fucking idiot wenger…does he ever play anoyone in their best position ffs!
k thanks.
Anyone think we’re playing 4-4-2?
Choy are the showing the match on Ten or Zee sports?
Wilshere played for the reserves.Think he is going to get very limited oppurtunities this season
i guess this season ramsey is going have to real patient and although diaby may have the teamlonger does not passing range rambi is a better passer and works harder put there is fear chance that wenger will bring him on second half wenger does tent rotate quite alot
Diaby is anything but average and this is why he is so infuriating.
Yes he is 23 but that’s the age Flamini started to come good and don’t that Diaby’s early years were shortened by injuries.
It’s really not my favorite player either. But he doesn’t deserve the flow of mindless abuse he’s getting from some.
And no, for all Diaby’s flows and Rambo’s qualities, Rambo is not yet at Diaby’s level. I love the kid but he’s still only a kid. I hope he and Vela get some playing time tonight though!
Mannone
Eboue Gallas Verm Clichy
…..Fab..Song..Diaby
Arsh…..RVP….Rosicky
zee sports
No surprise there Diaby started again.
Maybe he will perform if not maybe the damage he’d done will be minimal as I hope the likes of Rosicky,Arshavin,Fabregas and van Persie have a good game tonight.
With this lineup i’d go for
Back5
Diaby – Song – Fab – Rosicky
Arsh – RvP
Thanks nishanth..
I see Rosicky playing midfield with Song and Fab for added creativty, which cesc has lagged with recently.
Abou upfront, which may mean with Walcott, Bendtner and Eduardo coming back he may be running VERY short of chances..
I hope cesc plays deeper of the two.Even though defensively he is solid he doesn’t lose the ball often.Let diaby play further of the two.Rosicky left and arshavin right
be very interesting tonight.
mozart, cesc , arshavin and rvp in the same team
get the fuck in… imagine supporting a boring team like liverpool or chelsea.
Jon K: exactly. We need Arshavin and Cesc to perform tonight, that’s the key.
We have a good team on the pitch, it should be a hell of a fight against the greek champions of the last 10 years or so.
Can’t wait for it to start!
Faceman interesting indeed but we could have done with an Eddy type player to finish off the chances created by these players…
Mannone
Eboue Gallas Vermy Clichy
Cesc Song Diaby
Rosicky VP Arshavin
I’m happy enough with that team, Cesc, Rosicky, Arshavin, and VP interlinking could be very interesting, just hope that Diaby stays out of the way and doesn’t bugger up all the intricate build up play!
WTF? Dudu is playing for Olympakios now?
mayank, i think rvp is a great finisher when on fire, that goal on saturday will be just what he needed
i back him to score at least one goal tonight.
Just a side note – Senderos sub ahead of Silvestre, hope it stays that way the rest of the season!
Arsenal: Mannone, Eboue, Gallas, Vermaelen, Clichy, Song Billong, Rosicky, Fabregas, Diaby, Arshavin, van Persie.
Subs: Szczesny, Sagna, Senderos, Eduardo, Vela, Ramsey, Gibbs.
What will happen however, is that Diaby will press forward much more than he is meant to, and cesc will not be allowed to go forward
See even A isnt happy with Diaby playing. Thats gotta say something.
just hope that Diaby stays out of the way and doesn’t bugger up all the intricate build up play!
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Hahaha.Brilliant mate,I agree 100%.
that is a positive A.
evening, Ladies & Laddz
first of all: come on you GUUUUUNNNEEEERSSSS!!!
one can expect a good game from Diaby once in a while, shame it is at home against cack teams like Pompey et al – against reasonably organised opposition he is just facking useless…
Le Gaffer loves his stats, here’s one: one game in 4/5 equals Not. Good. Enough.
reserves/transfer for Abou for me…
matt
in my opinion rambo just needs playing time and keeps posesion better diaby further ahead of him in terms of raw ability but what good is that if you 1 good game and 4 poor games,diaby is the same position he was 3-4 years and the only think that is keeping rambo wintshire behind him is there lack experience
Where’s Eduardo what if we get just 1 chance I don’t trust VP 2 burry.
It should be
Song
Fabregas Arshavin
VP Eduardo Vela
A: Why the lowered expectations? I hope that Diaby scores and provides a couple of assists
Anyway we need some muscle in midfield. Aside from Serbian crazies maybe, it won’t get much more hectic in Europe than against Olympiakos…
I think RVP will score today.Also arshavin
Having Diaby in the team is like playing against 12 men.
just hope that Diaby stays out of the way and doesn’t bugger up all the intricate build up play!
lol now it really feels like we’ll be playing with 10 men right from the start!
Diaby should be told by Wenger to just stick to basics and not try anything fancy. Just release the ball quickly whenever he gets it.
omfg
imagine… at some point tonight, vela will play with rvp, cesc, arshavin… rosicky wont play 90 imo
fucking loving it tonight, really looking forward to it.
rvp on the biorythms again btw
Stu I’m not happy with him playing, but I don’t see any alternative! Only really Ramsey could’ve played ahead of him in that role, but Olympiakos are apparently a pretty physical side.
When Rosicky is fully fit though I expect him to fill that role pretty much regardless of who we’re playing against!
Diaby is in the team is he…..great.
we are Arsenal, we are supposed to bitchslap teams like these at home if we have any aspirations to go all the way…
Diaby should be told by Wenger to just stick to basics and not try anything fancy. Just release the ball quickly whenever he gets it.
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Then why not play a reserve player to do it?:)
Diaby doesnt add muscle. He looks nig but has the mantality f a 5ft8 winger and things he has the ability to beat anyone he wants to. He may be tall and strong but never ever puts it to use.
Hopefully RVP scores…then Wenger can take him off at 65-70 and give Eddie a run out…..
I also hope to see Vela get a run out for either Arshy or Rosicky…
Then Ramsey for Cesc…..need to have him relatively rested for the weekend…so I am hoping we 2/3 goals up so we can make those changes….
And Senderos + Vermy for Blackburn…I think that will be ok……
So Stu,will Diaby play another full 90+ minutes?
Leon: we will have congestion in the team soon, even more so when the limit will be set to 25 players.
It’s already hard to believe that Vela does not get more playing time. The guy is pure class and already well ahead of the other youngsters in his development. Merida is another one I hope we will see more this season.
I wonder if Diaby could do well with those four though. Hopefully they’ll be SO good that they make life easy for him, create loads of space, and he can just do his driving runs through the middle and get himself a hattrick!
Well on saturday danny murphy kicked his ass
Can I ask why is Wenger leaving Eddie on the bench like this? I swear he’s better than VP (at finishing).
.
Good team tonight, looking forward to it. Let’s hope the elephant in the techical class/intelligence room(Diaby), doesn’t sabotage things too much.
Song and Eboue would be delighted to see Diaby playing.
For once the bench is exciting and will be happy with anyone who comes in
Matt Vela has only been available since the league cup game, and far from fully fit, I expect us to see alot of him this season, he really is class, just so annoying he’s never available what with jetting off to mexico every other week
Stu: that’s not not true Diaby tackles more than Song and Fabregas combined. Unfortunately he misses too often
But there’s room for improvement.
I hope we can kill the game early on so that the kids get some playing time. Please Mr Wenger, if Arshavin has another quiet game let’s put Vela on the picth for the last 30 minutes!
Metal he is better than VP at finishing, but worse in other areas, VP is a much better overall player imo, though Eduardo is class.
Expecting cesc have to have a stormer with his pal rosicky next to him
Tackling doesnt make someone physical. Diaby is big in stature but doesnt physically dominate anyone. Noone at all. And for someone his size thats not acceptable.
I’ve noticed we’re playing Song again. Do we have anyone who can cover for him, maybe give him a rest? I can’t see anyone.
Makes Wenger’s statement the other day about having no space to fit players, all the more strange.
Matt how much gaming time? If we score and kill the game early Wenger will still wait till the last 15-20 mins.
A like what apart from his crossing which is’nt that bad VP is actually a inferior player. We’ve been lucky that other players have scored Verm being 1 of them becuz when it comes 2 finishing which is ultimatly will win us tight games VP even behind Vela.
I think there is some prob with dudu,otherwise wenger would have never left him out from squad in fulham match,and today also he is not starting.
AW must have figured that he cannot risk Dudu, as Fulham were always try to kick the shit out of us, hence selection of shit players who just never get injured
And links peoples?
Stu: He’s getting closer though. His summer boot camp undoubtedly helps. He just needs a bit more focus and discipline. We don’t know yet if he can get to the next level. We’ll see but at least this season his commitment is greatly improved.
Paulinho: Wouldn’t Rambo be Song’s cover while Denilson and Nasri are injured?
Metal: Unless a player has stink, I think you’re probably right. Unfortunately.
Metal he’s technically better, better vision, passing, just generally a better all round game. VP is one of the top forwards in Europe imo, incredibly gifted player. Eduardo is a top top finisher but his finishing is the only area he’s superior to VP imo.
wenger’s boss I think he’s just off form, in his last game he was very poor, we’ve just got alot of attacking players now so if someone is off his game, as Dudu is at the moment, he won’t make the team, and has to fight to regain form and his place!
I dont think hie “boot camp” did anything. He looks no different from last season (apart from the hair he grew). If a 23 year old has problems with concentration and no focus then its doubtful he will get it any time soon.
Just get rid of him.
Paulinho, definitely worried about the Song issue… Denilson could be out for the best part of 3 months… that’s a long time for an Arsenal player to go without an injury.
liverpool playing aurelio as a attacking midfielder,and babel on bench.
babel isn’t that bad!
A, imo Eduardo is a better headerer and dribbler than VP (as well as his eye for goal).
And wh should Eduardo have to fight to regain his place when other players dont?
why diaby??
why??????????????
why
why
why
why
why?????????????
arsene.
Is Denilsons injury 3 months from now or 3 months starting when he first got injured?
Stu, RvP was the Prem’s top assister last year… he is a super player who seems to be very much underated by the Gooner faithful…
Eduardo is a great finisher… but his link up play and all round game is pretty bland.
Links please
streams, links? anyone? damn fuckin uni room with no way watching arsenal
My god… that is the keeper from when Greece won the Euro’s!
wenger’s boss – babel is THAT bad! Still can’t believe he’s still at Liverpool, they would’ve done better to keep hold of Pennant!
Yeah Pedro it’s a worry, I reckon Ramsey could do a job there, he was very impressive when he played there for Wales against Germany, but still far from ideal!
better vision yes better passing no VP 1 of the top fowards in europe once again I disagee VP cant hold onto the ball he gets shruged off almost everytime. He’s good but not one of the best fowards in eurpoe Eduardo could prove that with his goalpoaching instincs which is his movement and compusure VP is severly overated.
Yeah the DM situation is bad…..can Song go for that long without being injured or needing a rest……
We need another DM, I wonder if Wenger feels Diaby can play there in some games?
I would rather push Vermy forward and play Senderos at the back…
Wenger has his favourites.
Yeah thats Nikopolidis. Amazingly he is only 37…i thought he was much older.
Pedro link up play is actually very good.
Diaby definitively looks stronger. He was far from 12-15 tackles per game last season. If he doesn’t progress this season he will be sold (and willing to go anyway). With Nasri, Denilson and Song already ahead of him and the youngsters growing he won’t get a better shot at a starting sport than in the next few months.
Pedro: I never thought I would see you worried about Denilson being injured… Interesting how is absence makes him suddenly more valuable
Anyway we all want to see more of Rambo. It has to happen one day or another. Having to rotate with Song could be his big chance this season.
Hia lads, Got a great stream here if needed by anyone. English,great pic and no lag lol
http://tv.indonewyork.com/soccer1/
Links anyone
come on…
Diaby looks the exact same to me as he did last season. I dont se any difference in appearance..and he is just as clueless as he has always been.
Right now, right this minute, all eleven are legends…..come on you rip roaring reds…6-0. At least..come on…
Metal, he doesn’t impose himself on a game at all… finishing is pretty much his main use.
Give me VP over Eddy all day at the moment…
Looks good tonight…feels good
Any really good links apart from Iraq goals???
The shitanta commentators are suprised that VP is up fron alone. Its shocking that they are supposedly professional pundits who are supposed to know about football..
Matt, if Chris Kiwomya was his cover, I’d be worried about his absence if we only had one as cover!
I prefer Denilson to Song anyway… not a massive fan of either, but I think Denilson has more talent.
link?
:(:(:(
link plz
hahahh…..Eboue…fxxng funny
Arsenal are playing well.
Pedro he does’nt impose himself on games at all? What like VP when he cant hold onto ball or when he keeps getting shruged off the ball VP is 1 of the most improtant players in the team but Eduardo is much more effective he’s the fox in the box that VP we’ll never be we’ve won games becuz of goals from our defence VP has been very very poor how many chances has he missed this season? he’s been bailed out by our 2 central defenders 4 crying out loud Wait till we’re in a very tight game and we need a goal and all our best chances fall 2 VP as it usually does then we’ll see if you would have Eduardo over VP.
Vermeulen is a leader of men. Just watching him walk around makes me proud of him…
Nobody got any links??
I think its Lou Macari on shitanta. He really is a clueless fucker. Saying arsenal should shoot on sight because Nikopolidis is old. He then went on to say keepers are better at 20 than they are at 40. shocking comment.
Why do we always start at this pedestrian pace?
Why cant we start at high tempo and bury teams early…it wont work all the time but Barca press teams earl score 2 or 3 goals then relax..
Why do we start slow then desperately search for late goals?
wtf was that diaby? Noone near him even.
The goalie is 82
Pedestrian pace!!!
http://tv.indonewyork.com/soccer1/
that would have been a goal and a half!
Get in you Bastard fucking ball! Damn crossbar!
The keeper looks really old for 36………
What a shot by Fabs
woah three chances in a row!!
Legend arshavin…
class!!!
Yeah really pedestrian this….
http://www.mixlivetv.com/live-4.html
Were playing better now for sure…
Great footwork from arshavin but Diaby should have shot first time imo.
arshavin!
Chances after chances that’s what you get for fielding most your best players!!!
Free kick! DONT LET VP TAKE IT!
Fab to take??
Rosicky or Arshavin should take this
i bet we will miss this free kick
Awful free kick. Why cant we ever score a direct one ffs.. it cant be that difficult.
So happy Rosicky’s back
Look who’s tracking back there
RVP wouldnt have taken it…..its not on his side…but Fabs should man up and realise he cant strike the ball like Arshy, Nasri or Rosicky..even Rosicky is not back to 100%
Jon agreed but u get no goal when you’re best finisher is on the bench unfortunatly
Whats that on VPs thigh. Surely he isnt playing while injured..
Just got home. How are we playing? Got to find meself a stream
Is that George Clooney in goal for Olympiakos??
fabre will score
Very well Pat.
The difference of fabregas with rosicky and arshavin around him
Liverpool really on the back foot in Fiorentina I hear.
Pjanic from Lyon is such a talent!
Ooby EXACTLY Fabregas will never perform as his game relies on others as much as his.
Man that move was nice
Good to hear pedro. Won’t mean shit if we don’t win though…but of course we will =D
Fiorentina scored….
our shooting is poor…but we are creating many chances
Some very good football.
this is bullshit, players like cesc, rvp, arshavin, rosicky is the reason why we need to buy new players.
not enough quality when this motley crew play, wtf does wenger actually know?
has anybody a stream???
Diaby yet to make a positive contribution…shock horror.
justin.tv fucked me , every 30 seconds i must restart :angry:
Rosicky crossing 4 Arshavin lol
song is making good passes…
if vela comes on for diaby in the 2nd half that would be fantasy fucking football
That Jovetic is fucking quality as well. Great long distance shooter, young, skilled midfielder. Fiorentina will make a lot of dough when they sell him. United are interested apparently.
Imagine this attack when Nasri return
He was pushed… the ref could have given that as a soft..ish penalty
Pat, who scored for Fiorentina?
Vito’s kicking so far has been very impressive
This match reminds me a bit of the CSKA Moscow match. Not so many chances as that match but we need a goal soon otherwise Olympiakos might start to get confident.
I think we can win everything with the attacking formation we have..
I think Liverpool will struggle when they face Lyon…Lyon are hammering Debrecen on the road..the same team Liverpool struggled to beat at home….
ohh, fiorentina has scored, so liverpool will win
they are cunts
Jovetic looks like a good player
Jovetić
Paulinho, i was thinking the same thing. I just hope Rosicky won miss an open goal in this match.
David platt is a cunt
VP why shoot when made a diagonal run doughnut
We need to be more ruthless and clinical..the next thing u know..they nick goal and then defend to the end..
Jovetic again
ooby whats he saying
The only thing it our team is missing is TORRES/VILLA type player at the front. RVP is OK but not more than that.
Jovetic did Stu. I’m watching Arsenal but reading live commentary from other games. 1 v1 with the keeper and Viola took a deserved lead
L’pool 2-0 down.
2-0 hahahahahaha
2-0 to VIOLA
Ja move ruthless we need Eduardo
Firentina score again….Jovetevic again….
ahahahahahah
and that is jovetic off now… the secret is out, nobody watches serie a, utd/city bound in january imo.
And i’ve never even heard of Jovetic.
RVP can’t be compared to Torres and Villa. Different type of striker.
Barca up 1-0
M4RK dont we have Eduardo
I knew he was gonna go 4 goal why not try pass it you’re not scoring from there
thats why RVP should play on the right lol
Hear hear MG!
jovetic again!!! Same here Stu. i heard of him towards the end of last season and he made a magnificent start this season. Has at least 6-8 goals now and he’s a midfielder
Metal
Yes but still YOU would prefer both of them to Eduardo.
one hell of an ugly fucker that joevtic though
cant have it all.
FFS DIAby
VP is just being greedy he knows he’s been rubbish infront of goal he’s admitted now he’s making the wrong decisions cuz he feels the need 2 score at all costs
MG, firstly you are massively over hyping Eduardo… secondly, you’re a way off about VP.
20 goals and 13 assists… and you are calling him rubbish, give me a break…
tbf diaby has been playing well for his standard
Poor header Diaby. WHy cant we just fucking score. We will probably end up going behind in the 2nd half and have to come from behind because of shit finishing.
Diaby really looks bad enough but he’s around Rosicky, Fab and Arsh he really looks out of his depth
Eboue looking quite sound
he’s 19!
Pedro draw a quote where I called him rubbish please refrain from putting words in my mouth.
Nothing really flashy from jovetic.A real clever player though
Diaby should’ve release Arshavin there….maybe it’s too much of ask for him
oooooooooooooooooooooh some luck we have there
Jasus crisps…that was too fucking close. typical panicky defending…
MG… stop moaning about VP. He’s played well… fuck me, I’d hate to sit next to you during a game.
NEARLY BEEN FOUND OUT THERE!
1st half +
EBOUE
ROSICKY
CESC
big Minus
DIABY
Metal Gear sorry I just read you. Platt is just a cunt. He will always try and find negative. I just do not like him.
Goals will come boys……
M4RK Eduardo is the coolest finsher yes Villa has more pace and Torres iz right now the best stiker in the world but Eduardo with a run of games in his best position remember this is the 1 chance 1 goal type player we’ve always wanted imagin Fab, Arsh and Rosicky pulling the strings 2 create chances 4 him
Metal Gear Says:
September 29, 2009 at 20:30
Pedro draw a quote where I called him rubbish please refrain from putting words in my mouth.
Metal Gear Says:
September 29, 2009 at 20:28
VP is just being greedy he knows he’s been rubbish infront of goal
Metal Gear Says:
September 29, 2009 at 20:28
VP is just being greedy he knows he’s been rubbish infront of goal
If we don’t score after some 10 or 15 minutes get eduardo on for diaby
Pedro,
RVP is playing better than in he does in EPL. One of the reasons being that it is that EPL is much tougher than the mainland football. all EPL teams must adjust to that.
Pedro thats nice 2 know lol. On the matter of VP I never moaned about him I was actually talking about killing this game as soon as possible and 2 do that quickly we would need our best finisher or as you put it a player I have massivly overhyped funny that with VP there’s a strong case 2 replace his position with Eduardo’s but you’re the only 1 who’s accused me of overhyping the best finisher at the club or is he not the best finsher?
Faceman rubbish in front of goal Pedro said I said he was being rubbish big difference
Paul merson saying eduardo finishing needed
what is your problem faceman? why do you need to attack him?
Has someone got a stream???
That greek goalie makes me want to cry we have Almunia.
MG, you’ve spent the whole half bitching about RvP and talking about other players you’d rather see in there… even slagging off Cesc.
Eduardo maybe a good finisher, but he’s not on… so support who is. If Eduardo was better than RvP in the central role… he’d be playing there right now.
cos he is ill, like you.
Faceman why not stick 2 the issue rather then accuse me of being a pest 2 call me a pest becuz you’re view does not comply with my is not only patheic but also very immature.
then go somewhere else or just ignore us.
Metal,
Eduardo is one of those strikers who need a big man next to him and even though i might be wrong…. I don’t think he suited to the position as a target player. The new system is good for players like XXXxXyxr CXXxnt whose name we should not mention in this forum….I hope he proves me wrong…but.
Diaby is playing for his life here, hence the conclusion that the fella can’t play 2 save his life
Pedro first u put words in my mouth now you’re grossly exagerrating and you’re contridicting yourself by saying if Eduardo was better in the centre he would be playing there would that not apply 2 Bendtner on the right or Eboue upfront something you’re wrote a peice on just a few days ago.
Mr Chips Big Ear is now on Aljzeera Sport +3. him and his crew and bitching about arsenal…
Mark, 3 goals and 4 assists tells me he doesn’t struggle in the Prem.
He scored twenty goals last season… jeez… unless our strikers score as many as David Villa they’re not good enough!
Lets keep it polite guys… and get behind the team for the duration!
Come on you gooners!
anyone have an english stream? I’m sick of the greek cunt to be honest
Faceman you’re know you’re making yourself look rather silly when u resort 2 name calling I’ve had disagrements with Geoff, Stu and others and them nor myself has ever felt the need 2 attempt 2 belitle. I’m guessing you’re either very young or just immature
Read back through your comments MG… you spent the whole half bitching.
Wenger isn’t playing RvP out of position is he… RvP is producing and scored a great goal in the last game… so why would Wenger drop him? Is that good coaching, drop someone who scored a great goal for a player who has a finish and not a lot else at the moment?
Not for me…
M4RK thats a very good point but he should be getting more time there 2 see if that is the case
Good save
Goooooooooooooooooooood
it is flying on TVU Player, Pedro
Was that a save from Mannone or what?
More shite panicked defending. Why cant we just defend calmly ffs.
The God Father to the fucking rescue again.
Mannone has done it again!
man one
Fucking score ffs. All out shots are right at Nikolopidis.
Their no.14 is a right prick too.
RVP really can’t shoot on his left can he.
RVP just cant score…he kick it straighht at the keeper..he coudnlt choose a corner?
Its because VP always goes for power instead of placement.
Paulinho, that was a good shot… he hit the target… a goal is coming… I just hope it’s not a sucker punch!
Great save Vito!
Thats why we need Edu on
If only King Eduardo was on…
Anyone know what VPs shots:goals ratio this season is?
If Eduardo was on he would probably be on the wing tho so wouldnt be in position to have the shots VP is having.
Something like 30 to 2 or something
Pedro why not just quote me and again you’ve put words in my mouth did I say Wenger should drop VP? if I did quote me please please please stop putting words in my mouth as 4 bitching is that not what we all do on here complain express frustraion if the if theres a diffrence between that and bitching then please tell me whats the diffrence you have over 150 blogger on everage at least 90% complain about something should u not enforce a no complaing or in you’re words ”bitching” policy or would that defeat the very purpose of this website 2 express yourself and 2 correct u I actually was having discussions with others not just mouthing off
This keepers should fuck off!
I like Eboue….He has created many chances even though he is playing at right back
I must have missed the stat which stated Eduardo’s shot to goal ratio being 1:1
Bring on Vela. Not enough runners in behind.
Its definitely better than Rvp’s pedro.
clap–clap eduardo
I think Eduardos was like 2.9:1 a few weeks ago. A did the research. Just saying…thats pretty fucking brilliant.
I actually like Arshavin and Rosicky on opposite wings in a 4-3-3.
MG, I don’t need to quote you as it’s plain for all to see.
I will though…
‘Ooby EXACTLY Fabregas will never perform as his game relies on others as much as his.’
There is time and place for fantasising about other players and it’s not during a game we’re playing rather well in.
Time for a sub. If these players havent scored in an hour then someone new needs to have a chance. Diaby off for Vela or Eduardo.
Ok. Dudu on now please
It’s coming…
Thats a fucking penalty. fuck sake ref!
some1 is having a good year….I would pur Eboue as the 1st choice RB from now on……
Diaby is woeful wit his left foot. He might as well just try header the ball.
Mozzart Needs to come off….now.
Is he going to make any changes?
I actually forgot Rosicky was playing…
Anyone have a stream that doesn’t lag?
Smart sub. Now take Diaby off too. That fecker better not get another 90minutes.
Come on Eddy!!!
Wonder if Wenger will grow a pair and bring on Vela for RVP.
Eboue got lucky there.
he won’t paulinho, you know that!
What kind of a shit pass was that Diaby. ffs! take him off!
Pedro did u not say I was ”bitching” about VP so why draw 1 where I wasnt like I said before whats the difference between that and what others do on here I’ll explain what that comment was about since you’ve classified this as ”bitching” during the Fulham game bloggers on here were critcizing Fab and me and a few other we’re explaing that Fab is only as good as the players around him if any1 on here complains or ”bitches” as u so interestinly put will u pull em up on it no u wont becuz?
Or Diaby ideally but then he will just shafted to the left if that happens.
stream, anyone?!?!
Dear God…How do you defend a man like Abou Diaby.
Diaby is Anti Football.
Another wasted set piece. *sigh*
we won’t win
COME ON BOYS
Diaby did a great job of disguising the pass. Noone know what the fuck he was gonna do…not even his own teammates.
And Pedro please quote if it’s ”plain 4 all 2 see” why are u speaking 4 others how do u know what they would perceive how do u know they would interpret it the same way
I am so tired of seeing Eboue/Diaby fuck up our attack
but i like who is song playing…
No fucking end product tonight. Its awful playing so well and the whole team being cack in front of goal.
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
AaarrrrrggggghhhhH!
FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCKKKKK JUST GO FUCKING IN!!!!!!!
wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why not take off that diaby for vela??? Wenger and stubborn!!
Its like cska all over again.
Gallas hesitated far too long there
MG, you are getting boring now. That much is plain to see.
Bring on Vela ffs Wenger.
at least 20 mins left… keep the faith!
Oh FUCK.
Rangers-Seville 0-4 hahahahahahh
Get up you cunt
Olympiakos have conceded 2 goals in 10 games before this
Vela! ’tis about time…
Wooo hooo, Carlos!
ooh vela!
fffssssss
What the fuck is up with this keeper…
FUCK THIS KEEPER! FUKC HIM!
Good sub…
YES! Diaby off!
BRING IN VELA!!!!
another one lulz
2ice Diaby was close to scoring….and he saw he was being subbed…
Yes hope not too late
great decision from wenger!!!
this fucking stream is pissing me off. I’m gonna throw this shit out the window, no joke!! Okay, maybe it is
Rooooooooooobin!
come on arsenal!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
nnnnGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Woohooo!!!!!!
thank god!!!
That was pretty
GET THEEEEE FUUUCCKKKKK INNNNNN!!!!
get in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeeeeeeessssss! come on you Gunners !
Diaby not even gone off a minute and we score.
HOW IS THE GOAL?????
Now get another 3……
do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this?do u c this? yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
Eduardo assist and van Persie score!!!!End of arguements! Both points proved!!!
I dont know about this winning ugly business. I dont know if i can take more of this shite!
Dutchman, a cut back from Eduardo for Robin to slot home. Lovely.
Stu,
isnt that a sign for Wenger
David, I wouldn’t call this winning ugly… we’ve battered the cunts!
If only we had started this team….
Thanks pedro!!! YES!!
Stu, you can’t say that… we’ve played well all game… it was only a matter of time before we finished them off.
I really wanted to see Vela but not for Diaby but for a striker instead.
4-2-4 what are the chances Song will contain Olympiakos alone in midfield?
But surely eddie or Vela instead of Diaby would have made it easier to score tho…
Ahahahah love it. my manc friend called and was talking shite about it being 0-0 (although he’s not watching the game) and I just noticed we scored cause I turned my volume down! Brilliant!
Song is doing a fine job this evening…
Spoke to soon there…
Pedro this is boring becuz you’ve confused yourself you’ve contridicted yourself once you’ve put words in my mouth not once not twice but three times you’ve also accused me of ”bitching”which is pretty odd as 90 or even 99% of bloggers on here do exactly that and all of a sudden thats supposed 2 be negative I called u up on that and now apperantly I’m getting boring you’ve put on a great show I enjoyed it but word of advise when having disscusions please refrain from contriadicting and putting words in other people mouths that way 1 can discuss the issue rather then have 2 address issues created within some1 else’s mind which is very boring.
So whos playing where now? Is Arshy in midfield?
C’mon now Metal. Its getting old…just let it go.
Interesting few minutes coming up!!!
MG, it’s boring in the same way it’s boring when your girlfriend nags in your ear when you’re watching the football.
clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap
Sevilla have only had 4 shots in the 2nd half!!
Fucking lovely finish!
Happy days
2
Woah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is that a sexy goal…or is that a sexy goal
LOL Thats well offside…arshavin ban for cheating…
There we go, the 4-3-3 we all wanted to see!
THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORLD
hahahahaahahhaaa
what a goal he fucking back heeled it in
whatta fuckin goal!! go gunners !
we make two subtitutens, and two goals
Slightly offside…but hey I’ll take that!!!!!!!
what a fucking goal
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS FUKKK MEEEEE CESCCC DOES IT AGAIN!! OFFSIDE BUT WHO GIVES A SHIT!
phew !
fucking stream!!!!!!!!! I saw the goal but it was very jumpy. Looked offside
magic football
song man of the match, vela man of the match number 2
this is the future, this is why wenger does not buy
This is the team we should be playing regularly..not Diaby and VP in the middle.
vela should’ve pass that to ramsey lol!
Very stupid tackle by Cesc. He should know better than that.
cheat
Bit of a daft tackle that
Pedro dont put words in my mouth and expect me not 2 defend myself dont accuse me of bitching just becuz you’ve confused yourself dont contridict yourself so blatantly and expect me not 2 point it out thats all I’m saying this is the longest discusion I’ve had on this blog and it has alot 2 do with u not sticking 2 the issue but rather making things up as we went along.
Well, cesc going into challenges this late in the game. He certainly cares
Pat it was, but for every 25 chances you have in a game, you get an offside goal for free.
MG shut up and enjoy the game!!!
22 shots 2 goals
:D
22 shots on goal 12 on target
it’s because of their excellent goalkeeper
And Standard have equalized against AZ!!
manonne 3 games 3 clean sheet !
MG, you bitched all the first half. I don’t need to sit there and collate the evidence… you just need to scroll up to re-read your comments.
The only thing that is confusing me is why you are still going on about it 45 minutes later?
It’s boring… move on.
Final whistle!
Get in you gunners!
Where is Walcott
Thank fuck 4 that win.
I would think that Song, Mannone, Arshavin, Cesc and Eboue were very good tonight. Rosicky good before he got tired.
Diaby was slightly better than he used to be, but still not in tune with the rest of the team.
Good night all,
I am now in a fucking far place and it is almost 1AM and got to work at 7.
Theo played against a youth Olympiakos XI and got an assist. We won 3-1.
LPool lose 2-0.
Mannone 4 games, 3 clean sheets
Mannone earned that clean sheet of his.
Metal Gear i thought you had a bit of a point earlier. Only insofar as you should be allowed to comment on any player as you see fit even if you’re wrong. People bitching about Diaby all game (rightly) but nothing said (because majority agree).
However you really really are whining now. Please stop. Please dont even respond to this. Chill man and enjoy the fact that RVP and DUDU played part in goal..
pat did manonne played 4 games? vs wigan , fulham & olimpiakos i think…
Great game tonight. A little bit more application in the finishing and it would have been perfect.
Strike that, Liverpool lost 2-0 to Fiorentina and have two games against group leader Lyon, it was a perfect evening after all!
Can’t call this an ugly win.Good performance.Diaby has had enough chances.He didn’t have a bad game but average stuff again.Ramsey in
Manny should keep the gloves at least until he ships a goal. He’s our lucky charm now
4 clean sheets in a row now.Wigan.WB,Fulham,Olympiacos
Pedro u know why u pathetically attempted childish jibes and I pulled u up on it and you’ve cleverly avoided exposing yourself so u make up new issues like you’re doing now you’re tryna make me look like a rambling lunatic but in reality you’re covering you’re poor and quite frankly feeble attempt 2 make any sense of what you’ve been saying which is worrying since you also write the Articles on this website I’m finding it amusing watching u dodge your own shit u shat and besides if I’m going on and on would that not apply 2 u also does it not take 2 to tango?
WHAT A RESULT!!!
We should of had 5
If Eduardo and Vela were fit enough to start they both would have scored.
Vela should have been up front though
On the LEFT he is wasted, as although he plays alright, he is such a talented striker.
Arshaving+Cesc+RVP+Rosicky+Vela+Eduardo+Walcott+Nasri
Jesus, going forward that is well…orgasmic
g1g, another one is against standard liege
Bye Bye almunia
great game for our confidence and to get our movement and passing back
shame theres an international break after blackburn.
Hopefully Wenger can see rosicky is better in there next to fabregas and walcott is back soon to go on the wing, so no more diaby.
Olympiacos were shit, song was pulling out the tricks.
When Diaby went off we scored like straight away….
Ramsey should have started instead of him… He did more when he came on than Diaby did all day…
All he seems to do is slow down and break up our attacks by shit passing.
Vela was also V.good!
ohh yes, thanks….
Ooby if some1 contradicts themselves would u not point it out? If some1 puts words in you’re mouth would u not defend yourself by correcting them? If you’re gonna tell me 2 let it go should it not be something like this ‘’Pedro and Metal Gear both of u drop it’’?
Vela is classy, VP is surely becoming Mr 1 goal per game and all the others were a joy to watch. What a lovely silky game of wengerball!
But MOTM is without a doubt Alex Song. He’s barely 22, how far can he progress?
Once Arshavin and Rosicky get 2 full fitness our attack we’ll be awesome again.
Wherw is final this year??
MG, you are doing an amazing job of making yourself look like a rambling lunatic without me having to intervene.
It looks like other people have realised this as well…
We played a 4-4-2 after vela came on.Arshavin was okay.And his okay is good enough
The final is at the bernebau(sp).
MG, you are being obsessive. Just let it go…yeah?
I knew he’d respond……
MG-Everything depends on the team selected.They can be all be super fit but if they are played out of position it won’t be of much use.
sorry guys i dont think song had a great game tonight. he held onto the ball too long, gave away some stupid fouls, and passing was really poor at times…. he did make some crackin tackles though but he seems to play really well for 10 mins and then plays badly for the next 10 etc etc. Eduardo showed with his assist that he should be starting. I really dunno what Diaby contributes to the team??? Clichy had a good game i thought which is good to see cause he hasnt been great recently. Eboue did well also at RB…. Cesc is getting better and he was involved in both goals as usual… lots of positives tonight
That was a nice performance, pity we didn’t score more goals. VP, Rosicky, Arshavin and Cesc could tear teams to shreds this season, really annoying there’s an international break after Blackburn.
Personally i think we played much better in the first half…but its the result that counts right?
great game, great win – their goalkeeper was immense and I thought we’re gonna get hit on the break for this scrappy win on Sat
the very moment Diaby went off we had our tails up – coincidence? I think RvP, AA and Cesc salivated when another exciting world class player in the shape of Vela entered the pitch…
Diaby not getting a full 90 minutes – sign of monolith cracking or just a slap on the wrists?
A-Any chance of nasri returning after the break?
And Liverpool lost which is a Boon
Diaby wasn’t bad today SUGA3, why would he get a slap on the wrist?!
Pedro just becuz 1 person has told me 2 drop it does not make that other people first and foremost why did u not just say ooby I’ll tell u why becuz by saying other people if gives what you’re saying more credibility just face it throughout this discussion you’ve made yourself look foolish becuz you’ve exaggerated, contradicted, mouth fed me, and accused and you’re doing it again is it me or is you’re ego 2 big 2 just admit you dug your own hole?
Suga3-Wenger was resting him for blackburn match
Nishath very true I forgot all about Wenger and his position policy.
Diaby was horrible.
Stu 4 u I’ll let it go lol it’s me just as much as it’s Pedro but fine i’ll let it go. I’ll Pedro’s ego win this won.
Wasnt it refreshing to see Eboue get his head down and concentrate on playing well.
MG, I couldn’t actually decipher your last comment.
I think only one person is making themselves look foolish here.
Drop it, it’s getting boring… stop your whining.
Vela is just immense I desperately wanna see more of him
I just hope once ramsey starts.I am fucking sure he will impress.He will work his socks off to cement a place in the first team.You can see that hunger in him.This is why i am not a diaby fan.This is a golden oppurtunity for diaby and he hasn’t taken it.Not even shown enough desire at times
No idea Nisanth, hadn’t thought of that, he must be close by then I’d guess, at least close to full training if not completely returning to first team reckoning.
One plus must be that Theo should be 100% ready for involvement by the time we return after the break, either have 90 mins playing in the reserves or maybe he’ll be named in the u21 squad.
Their goalkeeper had a Mannone-like day, it’s unfortunate but it was a joy to watch and it’s a good result. And considering the injuries we have the team can only progress from there.
And Vela is definitively our top prospect.
Diaby again made some mistakes but he is really active on the pitch. Rambo was more transparent today but it’s good for him.
HI guyz. Aweome game – it was beautiful,sublime. i was watching the infobar at the bottom and when Barca scored 2 i thought that we are best footballing side alongside Barca and i hope we meet them in the final and beat them – Arshavin was scintillating 2nite – however i still think he’s going to get better – SCARY? i know!!!!! Fabregas looked up for it 2nite, he was full of passion. Rosicky was immense, RVP well he was good but i’d rather a Torres type striker in there – a finisher! i was impressed by Diaby, he managed to ride all the rough challenges and still drive fwd. Clichy was v.good 2night, as was the whole defence actually. Song was also gr8, but needs more support off the other 2 – CESC & DiABY – Arshavin was coming to help him!!!! the man is amazing!!!! i must sound over-excited but its been a long time since we have played so well/Wengerball that i cant hold back.
Overall we were 9/10, just missing a few goals. I thought Vela,Ramsey were v.good. We were getting a bit frustrated at 65th minute because they were defending in their own box and i was wondering whether Walcott should’v come on for Rosicky but in the end all is well. I think from what i can see from todays game, we lack a Fast striker & another DM who could’v come on to help Song – that’l b needed to defended a lead against a better side. Overall veryyyyyyyyyyy happy with the game and result. Arshavin’s goal was class! Another goal for the youtube clip
was he now, A?
if you consider not being the usual crap self ‘good’, then yes…
can’t be bothered to discuss it any further – just watch him play, as one footed as it gets…
Here it is again Pedro
Stu 4 u I’ll let it go lol it’s me just as much as it’s Pedro but fine I’ll let it go. I’ll let Pedro’s ego win this one.
ooby I think Eboue is a better attacking RB then Sagna he adds penetration but on the wing or up front he’s a disaster in motion.
I didn’t say good SUGA3, i said he wasn’t bad. I was worried before the start that he’d get in the way of Arshavin, Rosicky, Cesc, and VP’s sexy football, but he kept it simple and generally did a decent enough job, didn’t do anything great but didn’t do anything horrible either.
still they were more slick when Vela came on – they know there is another rapid fire thinking cog in that machine – Diaby takes ages to do anything even when he needs to keep it simple…
ermmm yes he did…over passed the ball….cocked up some free headers from corners as well as a few proper shots on goal.
He wasnt his usual shite self today but he was still very much shite.
And to think just last night i was defending Diaby.
Still it was just a typical sexy arsenal win.
Diaby wasnt good…he was bad because even surrounded by all those other quality attacking players he still did nothing well. We had a chance to move forward quickly at one point. Diaby took 8 touches running forward only to stop, turn and pass backwards. Thats why he doesnt fit into this team because he takes too long to do something.
As much as I would love to Laugh at Liverpool.
We still have to play those pipes in the CC
Yeah I agree SUGA3, Diaby does take a long time to do everything, he certainly isn’t going to be capable of playing our quick pass and move as well as the others, though that isn’t why he’s in the team.
Can’t believe Vela is gonna be fucking off to South America again so won’t be available home to Birmingham which would be a perfect game to give him a start! So irritating, he should just retire from international football!!
Olympiacos’s Dudu,he foulded Diaby of all players!What a mug!
10000% correct Stu…Even eboue would find someone with a pass quicker than Diaby
Yeah we do David, and we’ll smash them!
a bit surprised at l’pool losing….
Im delighted Liverpool lost but you just know they will step up against us because they usually do.
Maybe that league cup game will be a good time to blood nasri, depending on theo’s match fitness perhaps he’ll get a run out as well?
I hope so but Benitez is the sort of Kunta that would play Gerrald just incase.
Stu agreed Diaby is 2 slow I noticed it in the game is well dude just looks out of his depth 4 some reason he feels the need 2 keep it complicated just past and move god damit there is nothing I find more frustrating then a player who does not know what 2 do with the ball before he gets it.
Speaking of Eboue, it was refreshing to see him not in midfield or attack. Thsi was the perfect game for him. Right back with little defensive responsibility.
Its so strange but he seems to attack better from defence than when he is actually playing in attack.
8 out of 10 times he still makes the wrong decision in the final 3rd tho.
And im honestly tired…very tired of seeing him fack it up.
If we can get a left back who can beat his man…we’d be unstoppable imo.
I dunno Stu, when was the last time Liverpool beat us at home? I’m quietly confident about the league cup game, Vela, Wilshere, Ramsey, Merida will tear them apart, and Coquelin will dominate the midfield
David 4 that Clichy needs 2 hit the jammers and bulk up
How did we get onto Clichy?
On Diabys dribbling and such. I would much rather a player who always passes short than Diaby who dribbles 20 pointless yards. If Diaby could keep it simple he would be a much better player for it.
Stu David was talking about if we had a left back who could beat his man we would be awesome which I agree with but clichy can beat his man but if had a bit more strength he would be a beast
A
if they play anything close to their first team…we’re in trouble
IMO clichy doesn’t have the brain or technique to ever be a really effective attacking full back, I expect gibbs or traore to take over from him eventually
Stu it’s not just about Diaby keeping it simple from what I’ve seen he does not have the intelligence 2 know what 2 do with the ball in certain situations he’s a great finisher though but……
Yeah Metal…i saw that part…that was the random comment that started the topic i thought.
And apparently Clichy is the strongest player at the club (pound for pound obviously).
They’ll play half a team David, as they did when they lost last year, the year before, and when we beat them 6-3.
Our talented kids will beat the mix of a couple of first teamers, average squad players, and average youngsters.
Well, the match report is complete… I’m signing off for a couple of days… Paris is calling!
Have a good one and enjoy tomorrow write up!
Yea I was thinking bout Eboue and Clichy as our top two attacking full backs….
Eboue is great. Sometimes.
With Clichy its like flipping a coin.
Imo…Geal should really be racking up assists with his pace down that left…but with Diaby playing infront of him….
I think our kids will beat Liverpool…here’s the thing I doubt Benitez will risk Gerrard and Torres….
Liverpool play Manure on Oct 25th……….the league cup game is on the 27th……plus they will have another league game against Fulham at Craven Cottage at the weekend…
surely Benitez is not crazy enough to risk his big guns so soon after a big match up with Manure…
Clichy had an excellent game tonight, not much more he could have done.
As for Diaby his offensive game should be crispier but defensively he is definitively going there. He got the ball back almost as many times as Song today. Too bad he lost it more too. If any of his headers would have been in his contribution would have been more than decent though.
Its gotta be Gibbs A. Traore seems a tad slow to me as well. Great power and pace but not much else imo.
Most attacks seem to come from the left though, clichy’s side!
Diaby is a good dribbler and has some shot on him, but apart from that he can do fuck all – he is lazy, does not track back and his positioning is woeful…
he can’t keep it simple, as there are some players who are much better at this, he has to dazzle, problem is he is not quick enough to dazzle in the Prem…
for the opponents!
Enjoy the Vacation Pedro.
Who’s the lucky lady?
Matt, whats with all this Diaby love. You must be the only person who doesnt object to him playing.
Gibbs I like him that period last season where he got a crack of the first team he was immense 4 some1 that young 2 cope that well shows we’ve got that position pretty muched covered as long as he keeps working of course.
choy more like Arshavin’s side.
It was great not seeing bendy in the team today.
At least the attacking came from the Russian and not through Pink boots.
David, I’m meeting an aerosol valve company about tying up a deal.
It couldn’t be anymore boring! haha!
Au revoir!
Sun. 25 14:00 UK Liverpool v ManchesterUnited…Anfield
Tue. 27 19:45 UK Arsenal v Liverpool……….Emirates
Sat. 31 15:00 UK Fulham v Liverpool…..Craven Cottage
Do u guys think Benitez is crazy enough to play Gerrard and Torres and some other first teamers against us….based on that scehdule?
Gluck Pedro!
Ja
I see your point…But I’ll laugh at them after we beat them.
benitez is crazy
This team attack wise has the potential 2 match Barcelona of last season and exaggerating is something I’m tryna avoid so bare with me
DM Song
CM Fabregas AM/RosickyArshavin/Nasri
RWF RVP/Walcott CF Bendtner/Eduardo LWF Arhsavin/Vela
Breathtaking attack but knowing Wenger this will probaly happen
DM Song
CM Fabregas AM Diaby
RWF Bendtner CF VP LWF Arshavin
It’s a bit strange feeling excited and not excited at the exact same time.
Given their schedule (Lyon & United home, us, Fulham, Lyon away) it’s pretty sure Benitez will not play his best team against our kids. And with the state of their finances Liverpool can barely afford not to qualify for the next stage of the CL. The kids can make it, no doubt.
Diaby: He’s not among my favorites but I can see the potential in him. I have doubts that he can step up but if he can he could be a hell of a player. If he can’t let’s make sure before we sell him. We will know by the end of the season.
I love Ramsey but realistically he’s not starting material yet. He will come good, no doubt about it. But he should not start unless we have to.
I enjoyed seeing Wenger have the right players come in for substitutions. A little bit earlier would have been better but still good choices.
MG
I wont go that far…Rosicky needs to up his work rate big time.
Song isnt Yaya Toure.
And Diaby doesnt neccesarily have the ball retention skills of Iniesta.
MG, i dont think Diaby will be a starter once Rosicky is fully fit and Nasri is back. Or at least i hope not.
Great Result
I think the problem with Diaby is he is not a youth product anymore
He has no excuse, either he plays well or he gets dropped.
Problem is he is playing like shite and still starts nigh on every game!!!!!!
Why?
If we want to win against top teams like Barca we will need more steel in midfield and more sharpness in attack.
Not there yet but it’s coming.
pat
you know with Le Gaffer some players are just undroppable.
Cesc and Rosicky in midfield. Arshavin and Eduardo up front (with VP probably) and we have 4/5 players good enough to crack any defence. And with Nasri coming back and Theos pace we have plenty of options.
Shame about the defensive options tho….
Im not sure why Eduardo wasnt in the team from the start today.
I mean its not like he played on Saturday.
David I know I would rather have a better DM but I was talking about the attack more then anything else and as 4 Diaby I mentioned him in the context of what Wenger would do and Rosicky’s work rate is awesome it’s the first thing I noticed about him when he first arrived of course he is not yet 100% so I dont expect him 2 bust his lungs just yet.
It is almost like Diaby is the new Eboue
A player that will play no matter when where. If there is a gap, if someone is injured, despite having quality like Wilshire, Ramsey, Vela on the bench, fuck it lets play Diaby.
He just can’t get in the team David – Arshavin and Rosicky ahead of him!
One of Wengers problems is that he doesnt drop off form players. He keeps playing them until they get out of their slump. Not the right approach im sure ye will agree.
Diaby is certainly behind Denilson and probably Nasri too. He gets his chance now because of:
1) injuries
2) other midfielders not helping enough with defending
Pat until Rosicky is fully fit there isn’t anyone else who could play imo, Ramsey isn’t ready yet, though he could play in some games. When he’s fully fit though, or when Nasri is back Diaby won’t be a regular starter I don’t think
It is fucking shocking David, Diaby was poor at the weekend, poor tonight, in fact he has been fucking poor pretty much 95% of the time he has played yet gets to start every game.
Fucking Bullshit. Well happy we have won tonight, but play Ramsey/Wilshire/Vela from the start and they will contribute more than Diaby.
Oh and well played Arshavin tonight, got a bit of stick from the weekend, but thought he played really well tonight.
Not sure i follow A,
Eduardo is a striker. Rosicky and Arsh are midfielders.
And RVp as well A
Eduardo, Arshavin and Rosicky were competing for the wide roles tonight. Thats what A means, Eduardo didnt start because there was nowhere for him to play.
We should just have started Eduardo instead of Diaby imo. Would have solved all the problems.
yea pat
its a formality now. We just have to get through these dissapiontments like we get through the Transfer windows. WE move on.
I expect him to pick diaby until Arsenal fans boo him off then he has to use him as a sub. And then sub him after using him as a sub.
Maybe either Wenger or Diaby will have a change of heart.
Eduardo isn’t a central striker in this system imo, he’s someone who should be going at goal, bringing others into play isn’t his strongest attribute, so he’ll play wide in this system where he’ll be able to be more direct. Arshavin is more of a forward than a midfielder, Rosicky is an attacking mid though.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens with a fully fit squad, the creativity in a front 5 of
——–Song——–
—-Nasri-Cesc—-
Rosicky-VP-Arshavin
is scary
A, if Diaby was putting in at least 1 7/10 performance every now and again, I would agree with you, but at the weekend it was like playing with 10 men.
I would rather see the likes of Ramsey/Vela/Wilshire put in the odd awesome performance (as they are all capable of it) than let Diaby put in poor 5/10 performances in week in week out.
At least the 3 aforementioned players would learn and development. With Diaby it is Groundhog day.
Rosicky played out wide?
Fuck me…he really was Anonymous today wasnt he?
Stu: yes I agree, his loyalty to players is going too far at times. I doubt this is the case for Diaby though. I’m pretty sure Wenger prefers both Denilson and Nasri.
patthegooner: Vela when fit is the only one deserving to start. Rambo should make appearances more and more often as a sub and Wilshere is a kid who we should make sure will progress without injuries. He does not have the body/frame to play when the opposition is determined to scrape a draw.
I’d rather see
Cesc Song
Rosicky
Eduardo VP Arshavin
I have conceded that VP is gonna always play in the middle. Even tho i fucking hate it. Should be Dudu in the middle with AA and VP either side imo.
I like that formation A,
Id put Vela or Eduardo ahead of Rosicky tho.
A… how can someone playing on the wings be more direct than playing in the center?
Rvp brings everyone into play but he needs to be more clinical!
We all need to be more clinical choy.
Even Cesc was shooting shots straight at the keeper.
Zzzzz
4-2-4 is not an option. We would be totally crushed against any half-decent team with only Song and Cesc in the middle (Arshavin does not count).
We need Diaby. For now. And if today is the kind of performance we can count on when he deputizes for either Denilson or Diaby, that’s perfectly fine with me.
because VP plays with his back to goal much more choy and the wide men run past him, or when they have the goal are always going forwards, they’re much more direct than the central man who has to wait for support to arrive
Matt
I know what you mean, I just feel that despite his frame, Diaby is being carried most games.
He is well out of his depth………Unfortunately.
The most frustrating thing is that on his day Diaby is brilliant, but he is so horribly inconsistent that his day is about every one in six games.
Matt, you are perfectly fine with Diaby taking ages to release the ball and generally disrupting our fast flowing football. Well good for you.
And the reason I say Wilshire/Ramsey/Vela even though we are talking about RW, CM, LW is that Diaby seems to be thrown into all 3 positions!!!!!!!
I just dont get the logic.
It did not work with Eboue and it is not working with Diaby.
I wouldnt go as far as saying Diaby is brilliant or unplayable on his day. More that on his day he has a moment or two or brilliance. Even in his good games he doesnt play the whole game consistently well.
Was it a 4-2-4?
Hmmm.
Looked more like a 4-1-4-1 to me.
Well our wide players have hardly scored as well A.
Sorry I meant “deputizes for Denilson or Nasri”.
Actually I like Eboue the same way I like Diaby. If he’s happy to deputize mostly for Sagna and get a start once in a while when needed, I’d be very happy too.
As for Song he is well ahead of the curve. I confess to being impressed. I’m ready to bet he will contribute more than Flamini before the end of the season. Same attitude, better technique and much stronger. At 22.
Diaby i dont know. At least Ade used to score goals.
WTF?I dont understand the logic behind playing Diabolical in the team.We were looking lethal once that headless chicken was subsitiuted.
Agreed Choy, the widemen arent scoring. Bendtners only goal was when he played CF. Arshavins was a tap in tonight and against Celtic (also from the middle).
And Eduardo has a tap in, a penalty and a goal off his knee.
Song is alright,but Diaby.That idiot doesnt deserve to be a part of even our bench.
Matt
And I agree with that, I love having Eboue as cover for Sagna. In certain games I would actually start Eboue in front of Sagna.
But with Diaby, I am not sure who I would like him to cover for. Sorry I just dont rate him.
Which is strange, as before his nasty injury at Sunderland, he looked like he was developing into a bloody good player, but he since coming back, he has looked poor to average with the odd day of being brilliant.
If he can convert the odd day to consistent days, then fantastic, but at this level you should be given so many opportunities to prove it.
was almunia fit? How was Mannone? How funny is the bindippers result?
We have to on/off guys in the team:
- Arshavin for full games
- Diaby in 10-minutes spells
Stu: yes he’s both slower and clumsier. But he intercepts and tackles much more than the (currently fit) alternatives. I wish he was better, certainly for a first-starter, but as a sub it’s ok. It’s not like he was terrible in the game either. Just not as good as Song defensively and the rest offensively. Kind of like Eboue in midfield.
But we need this kind of players to win trophies. If he was playing week-in week-out with Denilson and Nasri on the bench that would be infuriating. But he won’t.
Eboue would be perfect if he was happy to just deputise for Sagna but remember in the summer him saying he wasnt happy at the lack of first team opportunities, and this despite laying about 40 games. He wont just sit onj the bench waiting for Sagna to need a rest.
And as for Diaby, that man or whatever he is, is a waste of a number, waste of a shirt, waste of wages and generally just a waste of a spot at arsenal.
He doesnt make the most us his size, doesnt make the most of his chances in the team and is just too stupid to make it at this club imo. I;ve said it before and shall say it again : just sell him.
Pat: 100% agreed. The injury at Sunderland did him in. It happened too soon in his career and he never recovered. I remember he was really fast with light feet before. Now he is laboring. What a shame.
GM, No. Yes. Very.
*damn should have been = No. Good. Very.
Well Matt, if he isnt better than anyone at anything then why the fuck is he here. Surely you should always have a player with something that noone else has. He is useless…
We dont need players like Diaby to win a trophy. We need to get rid of players like him to win a trophy.
Stu: yes Eboue whined. He still can be helpful until he leaves for a good fee. Having to pimp himself to land in a good club will force him to give his best. And once gone that’s one spot for Merida/Rambo in midfield.
I’m afraid Gavin Hoyte will not make it though. Did he really not make it or is it just because he is behind Sagna and Eboue?
Stu: there are no better alternatives than Diaby ATM. That’s the only reason.
And we won many trophies with Cygan in the team compared to whom Diaby is a star.
Yes but Cygan rarely ever played. Diaby gets a good 30 games a season.
I’m sorry but the same people dismissing Diaby are probably the same people who were claiming that Song should be booted out.
I can appreciate you analysing his performance and claiming he hasn’t been playing well recently but don’t act up as if you know how he’s going to pan out. He’s inconsistent and needs to improve but it doesn’t mean he can’t. So relax, take deep breaths and just analyze the situation for what it is.
And Cygan didnt play in a position where he infkuenced our game. Cygan defended (which at arsenal he didnt have much to do).
Diaby plays in midfield and winning the midfield battle usually means the team wins the match. So when Diaby plays like shit it affects our ability to control the game and makes it harder to win.
thanks stu
Diaby the best alternative?So Ramsey and Vela play for some country sides?
Diaby is not the best alternative because in midfield we could have very easily played Song, Cesc and Rosicky (which would be my first choice midfield anyway).
Eduardo for Diaby and the team would have been a whole lot better imo. Anything is better than Diaby.
Interesting to note that, according to Myles Palmer, Lady Nine (sic) is selling her shares to Kroenke. Personally I believe every droplet that springs from the mind of Myles. He certainly seems to have an open line to Lady Nine. There’s a song in there somewhere.
i was impressed by eboue. dont laugh. looked more like the right back who helped us to the champ league final. maybe the pennys dropped for him and he can really push sagna who seems to have regressed in the last year
diaby’s alright – as has been pointed out the injury set him back, but before that he was one of the best in the world in his age group. surely that earns him the right to a decent shot at getting it back. at present he is neither good enough nor bad enough to make a decision either way. wenger’s patience may yet be rewarded.
Better than what Stu?? We wiped the floor with them. Just because we didn’t win 5-0 doesn’t mean there was anything wrong with the performance.
It’s a constant stream of shoulda, woulda, coulda. We performed well, there was a string of quality performances and we got the three points…Next match
no-one could say we were shot shy tonight!
Diaby was one of the best on his age group when he was in his mid teens. And his broken ankle from Dan Smith was 3 years ago.
He has had enough time to prove himself imo. This is make or break season for him imo. And i think its gonna be break because he doesnt offer any evidence that he is gonna suddenly become the dogs bollocks.
I would have sold him this past summer but i quess Wenger has other ideas.
come on stu, don’t split hairs, he was one of the best right up until he got his ankle smashed, aged 19.
Im not criticising the teams performance Angelos. Just i thought Diaby wasnt good enough (and hasnt really been this season imo).
right angelo. we played this team of the park and some team is going to get a right hammering in yhe near future when big players get fitter. hopeully spurs. just gotta be more lethal with the amount of chances we make. lay of diaby for fucks sake. blame wenger .he plays him
Diaby is strong on the ball, has a physical presence, is a skillful dribbler with a good technical ability and has shown on occasion that he can make a difference in Premiership games. He has had a few mediocre performances of late, but I know of better players who have had dips in form.
Just let the guy grow…we all know that when Nasri returns he’ll be seen significantly less anyway so I don’t see the fuss.
it’s worth remembering that Vieira was considered a bit of a misfit in his career and was not favoured at Milan.
Diaby holds onto the ball too long most times, doesnt make the most of his physical stature and often tries to dribble out of our defensive third and loses the ball quite a lot doing it. He slows down the play by taking too many touches.
Other players have had dips in form, that i dont deny, but those players are off form. Diaby is very rarely on form so when he doesnt perform its just more of the same frustrating stuff to watch.
Good players have bad games. He seems to be more like an average player who has some moments of brilliance imo. I just dont think he is good enough for us..even as a back up because he isnt a reliable understudy imo.
timao…exactly.
Its also worth remembering that Vieira was captain of Cannes before moving to Milan. Not that its fair to compare the two.
Now Diaby being compared with Vieira,what next?Mark my words,Diaby would never ever make it at Arsenal.
We dont score direct free kicks anymore..cant a couple of the players go to the training ground practise that….
Sometimes u just cant score from open play..so u need to use up ur set pieces..we have scored from some..but we havent scored a direct free kick in ages…and Fabregas wants to take even the direct ones….but he does not have the quality in that department….Nasri, Arshy rosicky should probably sharpen up and take over that duty
Stu…It’s also worth remembering that a multitude of major european clubs had Diaby watched on numerous occasions while he was at Auxerre, and Guy Roux rated him very highly (and trust me, he should know).
The truth is I respect your opinion and your frustration but should I take your word over the obvious talent I see he has (but not always utilises) and the trust of a man who watches him day in and day out as well as having a consumate track record in developing young or unfancied players?
No Angelos, dont trust my opinion over a scouts. That would be ludacris because im not devoted to watching players.
I dont doubt that Diaby was massively rated, otherwise Wenger wouldnt have bought him. But since first arriving and his injury at Sunderland i dont think he has progresses nearly enough as would have been hoped. He hasnt improven enough to warrent a starting berth at arsenal imo. He still makes stupid mistakes like losing the ball in key areas and making wrong decisions.
I know you are well connected in the scouting world but he isnt that age anymore. He is 23 now. Its about time he settled down and started playing consistently.
Let’s put it straight
Question:Should Diaby command a starting place ahead of Vela?
Answer:Big NO
Mr.Wenger wants to badly vindicate his decision of sticking with this headless chicken.Thats the only reason,why Diaby starts matches,despite being the worst player on the pitch.
what were cannes then, french 2nd division?
What on earth does Diaby have to do with Vela?!
They play in different positions, Vela couldn’t play in central midfield, so a MASSIVE yes Diaby should start ahead of Vela in that instance!
People here,trying to prove how Diaby would be better than Vieira.Go to sleep before sun rises in the WEST tomorrow morning.
I dont know where Cannes were in 1994 but im going to assume they were in Ligue 1. They were last in the top division in 1997.
Stu I am in complete agreement that he hasn’t developed half as fast as I and probably most of us expected him to. But every player has a personal growth pattern…all I’m saying is don’t dismiss him just yet.
He wouldn’t be in the starting line up with a couple more players fully fit and there will be huge pressure on Wenger to bring Wilshere through soon so I wouldn’t worry about him being a mainstay in the team.
But like I said I respect your frustration as he is anything but consistent.
Ligue 1 is the top division in France Stu
Jaguar, I don’t think anybody here is saying that…maybe you’re eyes are playing tricks on you in the late hours of the night.
Mr A,For your kind information,if you didnt watch the match,Diabolical started on the left and was later subsituted by Vela.The moment he was subsituted,our game became more fluent and dynamic,and a goal was scored in less than two minutes.Does that tell you something?
Angelos,I would say that even comparing Paddy and Diaby is sacrilegious.
Diaby didn’t start on the left…Arshavin did. And maybe the reason we were more of an attacking threat is not because Diaby came of but perhaps because we then played with 4 strikers.
I’m afraid you’re mistaken Jaguar, we started
——–Mannone——–
Eboue-Gallas-Vermy-Clichy
———Song———
——Cesc–Diaby——
Rosicky—VP—Arshavin
Vela cannot play the role that Diaby did, he’d play rather than one of the front three, he isn’t a midfielder
Yes A, i am fully aware of that.
We could have played Vela instead of Diaby and moved Rosicky into midfield where he should have been anyway.
We started with the above system, then Eduardo came on and we changed to the same, but with the front three being
Arshavin–VP–Eduardo
then Vela came on for Diaby because we were trying to score, so we changed to
——Song–Cesc——
Arshavin-VP-Eduardo-Vela
then
Arshavin-Song-Cesc-Vela
——VP–Eduardo——
then Ramsey came on so it went to
—-Ramsey-Song-Cesc—-
Arshavin———-Vela
——–Eduardo——–
At no point did Vela occupy the position Diaby did, and at no point could he!
Yeah Stu I agree with that, and when Rosicky is fit enough to play that role I expect that to happen, but it won’t be for a while, I’d be surprised to even see him start at Blackburn, let alone play in midfield for a while yet
Though I think Eduardo would come in ahead of Vela. Really hope Vela returns from international duty still fit, real pity he won’t be available for the Brummy game, be perfect for him to tear them to shreds!
Rosicky should always be our central playmaker when fit.
Rosicky should always be first choice attacking midfielder and when he isnt fit to start Nasri can take his place.
I dunno Angelos, it’s going to be very interesting what sort of balance Wenger looks for when everyone is available. I’d like to see Nasri in that central midfield role, with Rosicky playing in one of the wide forward roles where he’ll have more freedom, and he can still roam in centrally but without having to be positionally disciplined as much.
Though then there’s Theo, Vela, and Eduardo who are all direct players and could REALLY benefit from the amount of creativity around them picking out their runs in behind, and there’s also Bendtner who provides some real ball retention from goal kicks and hoofs out of defence we can otherwise lack.
Also in some games the physicality of Diaby in central midfield will probably be necessary.
Still, back five then
———Song——–
——Cesc–Nasri——
Rosicky——Arshavin
———-VP———-
that would be one hell of a team, everyone providing and getting into goal scoring situations, like today. Just hope we’d take a few more of the chances!
It’s a matter of balance.
Nasri defends much more than Rosicki so with Nasri we can have more attacking players on the fields (Rosicki included) whereas with Rosicki we need someone else to anchor the midfield with Song.
Too bad Cesc does not want to play deeper, he would have more defending to do but at the same time he would have more opportunities for killer passes.
Back 5
Fabregas – Song
Arshavin – Rosicky – Eduardo
Van Persie
OR
Ramsey – Denilson
Theo – Nasri – Vela
Bendtner
We have great offensive options. Mix and match both teams depending on injuries etc Sorry…no room for Diaby in my midfields
Matt, what gives you the impression that Rosicky doesnt defend well. He has a great work ethic imo and tracks back very well.
A, i personally feel that Nasri will be the one to step forward when Fabregas eventually leaves, with Wilshere being primed to take up Rosicky’s position as our no. 10.
At the moment I think the best team in tems of quality would have to be
——Song——
–Cesc—Rosicky–
VP–Eduardo–Arshavin
Nasri is top, top quality though and still my favourite player at Arsenal.
I completely agree with that team Angelos. Shame VP always starts centrally tho. Eduardo is wasted on the wing imo and would be much better in front of goal, even if he doesnt get involved with play as much as VP does.
I don’t know where people have gotten the idea that Rosicky doesn’t put in a shift defensively. Maybe people should watch closer, he is a battler.
CLichy’s best games were when Rosicky played ahead of him. He helped out a lot
Angelos It’s going to be a couple of years before Cesc goes, I expect all Cesc, Nasri, and Rosicky to play together before then, and when Cesc goes I expect Ramsey to take over his duties rather than Nasri, who’ll have a different role in the team from his time playing alongside Cesc.
There’s a multitude of options A. I’m just stating a preference. We’ll see how it pans out.
Stu: stats. Rosicki recovers balls much much less than any other midfielder. Like Arshavin although Rosicki loses the ball less than the later (more offensive).
I feel a midfield of Cesc-Song-Rosicki is too soft, too much work left for Song. But then Rosicki is just back, he will only get better with time.
I think we should not have a fit-all team. When the opposition gets tough we can use both Song and Denilson to boss the midfield for example. Arshavin could move around to accomodate Vela. Etc. I think what’s really great this year is that we have more than one top XI team.
As Angelo says there are plenty of options and many of them really good.
Not sure if this is posted, but what a top gooner!
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2660687/Fan-travels-six-million-miles-to-watch-Arsenal-football-club.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News
Just saw this ridiculous from Zico on the Arsenal v Olympiacos game…
“We had three French referees with a French coach [Wenger] in the other team [Arsenal] that had 10 French players,” Zico said, according to BBC. “Maybe we could have had referees from other countries.”
What is he insinuating? Arsenal bossed that game from start to finish. At one point, our offside trap was set up in their half of the pitch, so please….
I think Diaby was played by Wenger for the same reason as in the FA cup semis against Chelsea last season, physical equity.
The greeks are really strong and we needed to have a few strong players in our mid too. Song and Diaby.
But I dont know why Diaby doesnt keep it simple, and let his confidence build to try some outrageous moves, like he does now.
I too felt some calls by refs were not fair.
But that would not have changed the scoreline.
To quote ” an ancient Greek stood in the way of bigger arsenal victory”
What a top, top goal!
Can you believe it, some wanker was sitting in my seats!
Did someone die or is my Mac not working?
Perhaps you’re all stuck in moderation, I’ll go and check…
hehehe…
morning Geoff, just came to work
Morning Suga3 I think Pedro is about to post.
Furiously refreshing to be first!
some game yesterday, eh?
they had me tearing my hair out after the first half and I feared that karma was about to hit us for the Vito’s Saturday heroics…