Faye you are a heroine, if only you played in the mens team, you are just what we need.

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Ok I thought I’d start today with some great news for England, no I don’t mean the Croatia game tonight, I can’t be arsed to watch a team that brings Beckham on for 45 second cap cameos, I mean the women, on Thursday we play Germany in the final of the ladies Euro 09. After an unfortunate start against Italy when we were down to 10 ladies, the girls have fought back valiantly and by beating Holland in the semis, they play Germany in the final, imagine, the old enemy in the final.

Ladies captain Faye White had her jaw broken and dislocated in a clash against the said Dutch, ouch, I saw the game and it was a real wack, so what does she do? She has a mask made and says she is going to lead England out, what a star, did she make the headlines in the national press today, you know like David Beckham did in Japan when he unveiled his new haircut? No, okay then did she at least make Arsenal.com? Er, no, Robin got that for talking about his favourite children’s book.

Can you imagine if it had been one of our first team (Eduardo excluded) they would have had a year off, never mind play in the next game, so Faye, I salute you, I’ll be watching on Thursday at 4.30 on BBC2 and I’ll be cheering you on.

Personally I think you’re better than Fish head and would have you in the men’s team, but that’s not my call. Good luck to the girls.

Other news is Arshavin faces Wenger’s wrath by playing for Russia tonight. Why? Blimey, I think Wenger should be more pissed off with Cesc, who missed our last game injured, yet played for Spain and Rosicky, who’s missed the last 2 years and goes off with the Czech Republic before he plays for us, good luck tonight Andre, I hope you score.

Finally, someone posted a funny clip yesterday of honest granny shagger Rooney’s greatest dives, all Wenger needs to do is put that in his bag, add it to Pedro’s dive watch and take it to the UEFA hearing and ask for those players to also get retrospective bans. Conning the ref was the charge, not diving, that also goes for corners, fake injuries, throw ons and free kicks, I bet you could get 100 examples a week in the Premier league alone, and that my friends is how Gazidas should approach it, not with lawyers, go in with a compilation and ask how many players will you ban now please.

To make sure you get your point across, get rid of your silly fake American accent and use a Scottish one, that seems to work on Platini.

Finally, Hughes has made Arsenal reject Kolo Toure captain, sucker! I always loved Kolo so I hope the travelling fans give him a big round of applause, but I hope they boo Ade for the whole game.

Have a great day Grovers.

631 Responses to “Faye you are a heroine, if only you played in the mens team, you are just what we need.”

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  1. Paul88

    Whatever franchise

    I really can’t be bothered with any of it.

    I’m just very pissed off cos every english footballer (bar beckham), pundit, commentator, journalist, opposing fan (and some of our own fans) have villified a decent player for an insignificant minor incident that had no baring on a game that we’d already won.

  2. Paul88

    and continue to do so. I’d like it to be dropped now but as the ref proved tonight it’s obviously still fresh in people’s minds.

  3. zeus

    I wonder if toress played above himself in his first season @ l’pool. Spain should be 3-0 up. Torres doesn’t even hit the target on either chance.

  4. Angelos

    I find it strange that people have a problem with Becks still getting picked. On the international stage I believe he’s qualities still make him quite useful to have in the squad.

  5. zeus

    Hehe Itv. Even today, they just had to mention Eduardo’s incident. After Glen Johnson clearly fouled him, the talk was that ‘his reputation preceded him’. I’m very sorry to all the Englishmen on this site, nut I HATE ENGLAND. I HOPE BRAZIL AT SOME POINT MEET THEM IN THE WC AND RIP THEM TO PIECES.

  6. Angelos

    I don’t think it’s the fault of the English but more the very low standard of pundits and newspaper writers they have in this country.

  7. zeus

    Why is France trying to F up their chances so bad? Are the top players in this world deliberately trying to screw up the WC? If messi doesn’t perform 2nite South Africa 2010 is gonna be in jeopardy of being less than a beautiful spectacle.

  8. ReVELAtion

    When France play gignac and henry up front and anelka left wing leaving ribery on the bench what do you expect? Their coach is a clown!

    ABidal at centre half is an accident waiting to happen and they don’t even play frey in goal.. Oh that’s right he won’t play for france under domenech like trezeguet.. They have to get rid and the sooner the better IMO

  9. Ja_Gunner

    France seem to have a serious goal scoring problem….

    but they have Henry, Anelka, Benzema, Gignac etc.

    Or a creativity problem

    but they have Ribery, Gourcuff, Nasri(when availiable) etc.

    France must get rid of Domenech..he obviously does not know how to get the best out of those players.

    In 8 games France has scored 10 goals….I mean just 1 goal per game….whats going on…..they did valiantly to tie the game 1-1 with 10 men but there is a serious problem with French team….

    Maybe one reason is that Domenech keeps playing Diarra and Toulalan…..maybe he should play just one and use another creative force in midfield…even Diaby over Diarra I would say

  10. Angelos

    zeus, the players aren’t doing themselves any favours but you also have to look at their respective managers. Domenech is living on the credit of a Zidane inspired world cup run, Queiroz is ok but not good enough to sort out a multidude of inbalances in the Portugal side and Maradonna, well I’m not gonna diss the guy because he can still turn it around but his inexperience isn’t exactly helping at the moment.

  11. ReVELAtion

    Diaby over Diarra? Pull the other one!!!

    Bst way it’ll work for france is a 4-3-3:

    Frey

    Sagna Gallas ??? Clichy/Evra

    Toulalan/Diarra

    Nasri Gourcouff

    Ribery Anelka/Benzema Henry (C)

  12. Franchise

    reve they played a 433 with gignac anelka and henry up top

    and toulalan, gorcuff and lass diarra in the middle

    i dont see what the manager did wrong there but he has been messing up

  13. Ja_Gunner

    Reva..I never saw the France game..but is that what Domenaech did?

    Anelka on the left?

    What an idiot..if he wanted to play that lineup he should have played it like this….

    ……………….Back 5………………

    ……………..Toulalan……………….

    …Diarra……………………Gourcuff…..

    ..Anelka……….Henry……….Gignac

    The truth is if he needs goals he should play one of Diarra or Toulalan….why play 2 dms?

    I think Diaby would be a better choice since Nasri is injured……….

    He could have played a 4-3-3 like this

    ……………….Back 5………………

    ……………..Toulalan/Diarra……………

    …Diaby……………………Gourcuff…..

    ..Anelka……….Henry……………….Gignac

    But France will persist with Domenech and get no where…

    I know Ribery has been injured so I undertsand if he came off the bench.

  14. ReVELAtion

    Fran – it looked like a 4-4-2 with anelka playing left wing up until Gignac went off for mandanda.. Either way as Terrence told Domenech his methods are crap and the team pretty much doesn’t like him and the training methods. They don’t even know what they are doing on the pitch apparently, so it’s left up to individuals to drag them out of holes.

    If that’s the case they (the players) aren’t going to play for him, but they should remember that they could end up sitting on a beach during the summer instead of competing in a WC.. Probably the last 1 henry & gallas will appear in also…

  15. Franchise

    france have struggled since zidane retired. coincedentally domenech has been in charge since then (2 years b4 actually)

  16. zeus

    Who here thinks Fabregas should learn to take free kicks? He hasn’t shown anything to suggest he has the confidence or the subtle skill to go for goal from a free kick. He just can’t seem to generate enough power through the ball when it is in a stationary position. That is where his development should come from next IMO.

  17. Ja_Gunner

    gooner 786

    Honestly I would sell Theo and buy Elia…..Elia would be perfect for the mew system..he could play left forward or right forward….

    Theo should be a central striker but he wont be that in our new system..I hope he will learn some tricks like ELia though so he wont be wasted in the right forward channel

    If we never get Elia..then I would settle for Eden Hazard….but Elia is more ready for now..while Hazard is for the future

  18. kenny smith

    gooner 786 no im not gutted the scots are out. we played so shite for most of the qualifying campaign and we are shite so i expect it…. i am however gutted England won though!

  19. reggie57

    Right after watching engerland im going straight down to the tatooist in the morning to have Wayne Rooney is god etched on my john thomas well he is acordingly to that idiot clive tydsley
    happy days!!

  20. choy

    we don’t have someone to take direct free kicks from the right.. henry used to take em.. but we have been shite ever since…

    Rvp last scored against sunderland long time ago.

  21. ReVELAtion

    Cesc’s having a good game… It must be difficult for him.. he’s the onlly player in the spain squad apart from guiza who plays outside of spain now.. They must be speaching him all day everyday he’s on international duty!

  22. choy

    at least we won’t have to hear about the diving incident for a while…

    its all about the world cup now in the papers… phew!

  23. Ja_Gunner

    I really think the French should get rid of Domenech….Zidane has gone…isnt it obvious to the French that it was Zidane that was inspiring them….They need a new coach with fresh ideas..not the star gazer Domenech….

    With Gourcuff developing as he is…maybe they should try some type of diamond formation….. like this

    …………………Back5………………….

    ……………….Toulalan/Diarra…………….

    ….DIaby/Nas(whenfit)….Gourcuff……….Ribery…..

    …………….Anelka/Benzema…….Henry…………

  24. ReVELAtion

    Persoanlly Fran i just think he’s a shite coach… If it wasn’t for zizou coming out of international retirement he’d have been gone a long time ago..

  25. zeus

    Arshavin and Nasri have the skill, but they never take direct freekicks for some reason. The day RVP scores a freekick is the day we know he is truly back to his real self. Its been like 2 years since he has done it.

  26. ReVELAtion

    Ja i still think the 4-3-3 suits france best with the players they have

    Toulalan or Diarra in front of the back 4

    Nasri & Gourcouff just ahead of him

    Ribery — Benzema/Anelka — Henry up front

    The problem they also have is that their best keeper refuses to play for france under that coach as does trezeguet.. You know there are serious problems when players refuse to play for their country because of the coach.. it isn’t like they were relegated to France B..

    Then there is the centre half issue…

    Might aswell start Sakho now alongside Gallas because Abidal is shite!

  27. Ja_Gunner

    Yeah guys for freekicks on the right….Van persie should continue taking them until he gets back into the groove…

    Maybe in the future Merida or Vela can take over….

    But for direct free kicks from the left, I firmly believe that Arshy or Nasri(especially Nasri) should take them….

    Fabregas can take the indirect ones…….but the for the direct ones..it should be Nasri or Arshy….even Denilson would probably take better direct free kicks than Cesc…

  28. Ja_Gunner

    Reva for 4-3-3…I would play Ribery on the left….

    I know Henry plays there for Barca but he is getting older now so I think Henry should play thru the centre….

    On the right I would play Anelka there or some other fast player……..like that guy we were supposed to buy but we bought Nasri instead I forgot his name..oh Ben Arfa

    Then for the 2 attacking mids…I would have Nasri and Gourcuff…..

    so this is how I would setup France 4-3-3…

    ……………..Back 5…………………..

    ………………Diarra/Toulalan……………

    ..Nasri/Diaby…………………Gourcuff…….

    .Anelka/Ben Arfa…….Henry/Benz……….Ribery/Henry

  29. ReVELAtion

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1_rPW2EZsI&hl=en&fs=1&]

    I know most of you on here are grungey indie be- boppers.. But ooooooo i have to share this with you.. CHOOOOOON!!!

  30. Maciek

    Thanks guys. So it’s Ukraine as number 2 from Your group. Capallo is a great coach but England won’t make a semi-finals in Africa. Just my opinion.

  31. Angelos

    Who actually watched that Darren Brown lottery gig. I’m sorry but nobody would be that happy at NOT winning 2,400,000

  32. Ja_Gunner

    No David….the right footers take the free-kick on the left hand side….

    And the left footers take the free kick from the right side……

    And yes david..Elia in my opinion is the most exciting winger out there…….I would trade Theo for him anyday especially since we are now playing 4-3-3 …he would destroy teams on either the left or the right…..

    the only other 2 players that can compare are Hazard and Wilshere….. but they are younger..I think that Elia could be ready to explode now…….

  33. ReVELAtion

    Maciek like i said earlier we (england) will do well to get to the quarters.. A semi final/final appearance would mean punching above our weight, but it isn’t inconcievable.. We do have alot of potential matchwinners.

  34. ReVELAtion

    oh yeah, my bad! But he isn’t constantly linked with a move away is he :roll:

    Even if Liverpool finish 5th they’ll be no stories in the media.. If Arsenal finish 5th we’ll be having a mass clear out..

  35. David

    I saw Hazard today…he wasnt too impressive. He had Theo spurts where it was all pace and no end product. Elia is the real deal..how old is he?

  36. Ja_Gunner

    Elia is 22 ….

    He is ready to burst unto the scene……

    I have always heard about the other dutch player Afellay…but he seems to have fallen off the radar…he is not even being picked in the duthc team…

    As I said with our new system Elia would be the perfect buy…..he is skillful and very fast…..he probably can match up to Theo pace wise..but he has excellent ball control and many tricks

  37. ReVELAtion

    I don’t see it Fran tbh.. He looks lacsidasical and prone to a clanger.. A better version of our very own calamitous senderos…

    Maybe i’m being harsh on Eric there :lol:

  38. David

    choy Says:
    September 9, 2009 at 20:25
    yes nikkib scored…

    Pedro Says:
    September 9, 2009 at 20:26
    Oh dear…

    Choy… is there anyway that David can make the goal insignificant?

    ——————————–

    Since you asked.

    The twat scored a simple set piece goal against a shite team with CB that were half his height. But no that was very impressive. What was also impressive was his miss in the 68th minute and his free header miss which was even more simple than the goal he scored off of a header from a corner in the 88th. But no he scored a goal against Albania thas all that matters hence he is World Class.

    Give me a fakin break.

  39. ReVELAtion

    I can’t deny that, but something ain’t working for france and being the red & white tinted specs one that I am it has to be alot of players’ fault as long as they aren’t arsenal or ex arsenal :D

  40. Himpressive

    Quoting Czech Republic coach after world cup qualifier match today:
    “I’m happy above all that Tomas could play, that he was ready for the game. I had a deal with (Arsenal manager Arsene) Wenger to keep Tomas on the pitch no longer than an hour,” Hasek said in a televised interview after the match.

    The Czechs next face Poland and Northern Ireland in October, and they have to win both games to keep their hopes alive.

    “I believe (Rosicky) will be ready to play the whole 90 minutes by that time,” Hasek said.

  41. ReVELAtion

    wednesday david..

    Probable team against citeh will be the back 5

    denilson

    cesc Diaby

    Walcott Bendtner Eduardo

    Van Persie, Arsh & Rock on the bench..

  42. Angelos

    You really think Theo’s going to be chucked in straight away Reva? I don’t know, I think he’ll definitely play Arshavin.

  43. ReVELAtion

    actually swap walcott with eboue as walcott will be “short” (a famous wenger term)…

    We could play better david, but man city have almsot as many internationals as us.. We are used to this, they are not however..

  44. Ja_Gunner

    So we will probably this against Man City then

    ……………Back 5…………………

    ……………Denilson……………….

    …Cesc…………………..Diaby/Rosick…

    ..Theo……….Bendter……….Arshy……

    Since Song may not play because of travelling and RVP picked up a knock…..

    I think its still a good side though…..

  45. David

    Wright-Philips didnt play today did he? He would be relatively fresh….so would Ireland…the i like our chances….but I like them better with Song in the middle.

  46. ReVELAtion

    Theo won’t start neither will Rosicky Ja.. Arshavin is a possibility, but he’ll probably be left on the bench..

  47. Ja_Gunner

    Then for Standard Liege on Wednesday

    …………….Back 5…………….

    …………….Song………………..

    ..Cesc…………………..Den/Diaby…

    ..Bendy/Eboue…….RVP………Eduardo….

  48. ReVELAtion

    I’d rather have song screening the back 4 also, but Denilson will get the nod.

    Is Lucas still in the brazil squad?

  49. David

    ……………Back 5…………………

    ……………Denilson……Cesc………….

    ……………Rosick…——

    ..Theo………Bendy……….Arshy……

  50. ReVELAtion

    Rosicky won’t start until at least Wigan, but i reckon he’ll start his first game for us at home v blackburn on oct 4th.

  51. Ja_Gunner

    Well probably see this for Man city then….

    ……………Back 5…………………

    ……………Denilson……………….

    …Cesc………………………Diaby…

    .EBoue……….Bendter……….Arshy……

  52. Angelos

    I think the top 3 will be

    Bendtner – Van Persie – Arshavin

    I reckon that he’ll rest people in the champs league

    Van Persie and Arshavin had good games tonight and Bendtner managed to get himself a goal so I think he’ll try and go for form as opposed to freshness.
    Diaby, Denilson, Vermaelen, Clichy, Almunia, Arshavin and Cesc should be fresh enough anyway.

  53. ReVELAtion

    Angelos I hope you’re right, but he’ll get eboue in there somewhere probably at the expense of VP or Arshavin.. This is all hear say mind.. They’ll be assessed fri morning before any final decisions..

  54. Angelos

    Yeah Reva, he’ll have a look at them in training and make a decision based on that. But I think this game has an edge to it and Wenger will realize that. If we lose it’ll show weakness and allow Man City to build on their already considerable belief. That’s why I think he’ll try and play his strongest forward line available.

  55. ReVELAtion

    David you are taking Liege as a gimme to suggest that.. They may be on the bench for both games, but anything more and I will suprised because it means two of eboue, denilson & Diaby will be on the bench.. Inconcievable :shock:

  56. PDT

    My team for the weekend -

    Al
    Sagna-TV-Gallas-Clichy
    Song
    Fab-Rosicky
    NikB-RvP-Arshavin

    Theo, Eduardo, etc. on the bench. Don’t think he will let Rosicky or Arshavin play the full 90 inutes.

  57. ReVELAtion

    PDT – Song won’t play due to travel.. Rosicky won’t start, but he might get 15 mins if he’s lucky or we’re winning convincingly.

  58. David

    Eduardo was for the Witch Hunt. Bendy for obvious reasons…Still…If the kids can take apart Wigan by themselves dont you think Arsene would love to play them in the group stages…im not sure is all am saying.

    Either way Arshavin should play till we are 1 or 2 up and then id sub him.

  59. Zorr0

    Song got 90 minutes today. Can’t see why he won’t play, especially flying back westwards.

    Never knew Paul Le Guen managed Cameroon now!

  60. Angelos

    I think he buckled with Eduardo in that instance Reva. Remember, he said that he considered not taking Eddie to Manchester at all after the Champs League incident. I think he didn’t want to use him unless he completely had to(which he eventually did).

    I think he picked Eboue over Bendtner in that game because Eboue had a good match against Celtic, scoring a goal in the process.

    But this game has almost become more important than the Man U game since we lost. I just can’t see Arshavin being left out whatsoever.

  61. ReVELAtion

    Angelos fair enough but playing eboue on the right of a front 3 when you are already 2-0 up is one thing and playing him there against united is another.. I don’t know what his infatuation with eboue is tbh.. He’s a very good, solid right back and can do a job if we are decimated with injuries on the right hand side of a midfield, but anything else is a nonsense IMO…

  62. ReVELAtion

    If he’s trying to give eboue games because he wouldn’t sell him at a fee under the asking price of 10m he’s just going to end up looking a moron.

  63. PDT

    Reva, I think Arsene was extremely unsure of what would get thrown at him in Manchester. It seems to me that he starts Eboue whenever he feels he might be out-thought by the opposing manager and throws Eboue into the mix as an additional defensive option.

  64. David

    Agreed.

    The thing with Eboue is that he lacks concentration. If you think about it Arsenal have so much of the possession so our defense isnt under so much pressure…even in defense Eboue gets exposed if we are under significant pressure like in the FA cup semi final..which is why he belongs in defense.

    Having said that…if he IS to play in any other role in defense it would have to be a sub appearance that way he wouldnt have to think too hard the whole 90 min.

    Rev…

    I think those kids believe they have a lot to prove but eerrr…the Manshitty game is more important imo…

  65. Angelos

    I think, and this is just my opinion, that Wenger feels that Eboue brings a certain balance to the team. Perhaps he also likes the fact that he will be inclined to defend as well as helping out the forwards.

    I’m not Eboue’s biggest fan tbh but I think some of the abuse he gets is quite ridiculous. He’s sent out to do a job, he tries and if he’s not always up to the task then fine because I know that when Nasri, Rosicky and Walcott get back in he won’t be getting as many minutes in such advanced positions.

  66. Angelos

    David…Arshy’s looked injured and not completely fit and van Persie has looked like a guy trying to do his best in an unfamiliar role but contributing nonetheless.

  67. ReVELAtion

    PDT – We’re one of the biggest and best clubs in the world.. Turning up at OT with Eboue as a right forward just screams containment/Damage limitation.. We are and have better players then that.

    It was made even worse by the Mancs playing Rooney upfront on his tod whilst leaving berbatov and owen on the bench and they were at home ffs..

    They were there for the taking and set up to stiffle our play knowing full well we were the form team..

    Wenger’s tactical nouce leaves alot to be desired when it comes to getting results away from home against top teams.. I thought we’d turned the corner after coming back from 1-0 down top chelsea at the bridge, but all it did was sum up that it was a one off result..

    Playing Eboue as a right forward serves no purpose other than giving eboue playing time incase he spits his dummy out the pram because he could’ve and probably should’ve moved on..

    We’d be ***** if Sagna got injured but your youth players are supposed to cover for 1st team injuries and giving Hoyte or Gilbert a go wouldn’t hurt in a few games.. Rather than having a 60k a week diving enigma who might get the humph if he doesn’t play..

  68. Angelos

    And that’s Arshavin’s style. He’s more of an incisive, stop-start player who will only do things if he really needs to. And tbh, I’d rather that than a Tevez kind of player, just rushing about all over the place. I think that just makes you look almost charicaturish if i’m honest.

  69. goonermichael

    I think Wenger got it right at ot. Shame diaby and almunia fucked it up because there was no other way the mancs could have won.

  70. ReVELAtion

    David to be honest Van Persie has done the bets he can up top on his own as bendtner has done on the right.. They can’t perform better out of position and luckily thus far results have gone our way, but you can clearly see that it’s not working…. The team might work harder as a unit from the front some might say, but the front 3 are supposed to score goals and make the majority of assists..

    Someone suggested playing van persie out wide instead and moving bendtner inside means Van Persie becomes ineffective, but he plays there perfectly well for the dutch so i’m at a loss to see why Wenger persists with such nonensensical team selection..

    Van Persie operates in the hole or out wide whilst bendtner is a target man.. Eduardo has done o.k on the left, but we do not have the strikers to play this 4-3-3 bullox and it’s just been put upon us to accomodate walcott who is neither a striker or midfielder and get van persie and arshavin in the same line up as they both cannot play through the middle..

    Although im chuffed to bits with the way we started I have this nagging feeling that it’ll end in tears all over again so i refuse to get carried away just yet.

  71. Angelos

    “and giving Hoyte or Gilbert a go wouldn’t hurt in a few games..”

    I’m not sure of that Reva. And to be fair who else does Wenger play in that position with the injuries he’s got at the moment?

  72. freduardo

    felt really sorry for eduardo today. he didnt deserve that booing. funny thing is he dived for an english team resulting in a pen against a scottish team. he looked like he was feeling it a bit. i saw him shaking his head when his name was announced after the goal to a chorus of boos. weird to see a player being so villified for something we see so regularly.

  73. ReVELAtion

    He didn’t get it right goonermichael because we lost.. We played well up there but other than the van persie save from ben fosters toe and arshavins goal we didn’t exactly do enough to win the game..

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