Did I say on the wall? Sorry… I meant on the pad!
Yes, I went out yesterday to buy myself a snazzy notebook holder and I came across this little beaut by ‘Wenger‘…
Wenger Notepad holder... luxury defined.
Unlike the human, no expense was spared with it’s leather upholstered exterior and roomy yet practical interior. Since buying a Wenger, I’ve already doubled my ouput… which in fairness isn’t much more than switching my laptop on… but an improvement all the same!
Onto things of a more contractual nature…
It appears Arsenal are up to their usual tricks PR wise… Don’t sign any players, then the day after deadline day… ease all the fans worries by securing two marmite players down to long term, more expensive contracts. I really think Arsenal should wait before they do that if they are going to starve the fans of new players… because now, instead of everyone being rather accepting of Denilson and Nik here for another 5 years… they’re all spitting feathers that we’ve spent the £29million on new contracts.
This is a situation I kind of sympathise with Wenger over… he is damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t… and it all comes down to players making a flump (Flamini like jump)…
Nik B has worked his Danish nuts off over the last year to integrate himself with the team, ingratiate himself with the fans… and improve his game. He’s had an amazing turnaround in all aspects of his game, bar composure in front of goal… which even he admitted was a bit Sunday league. For me… the big man deserves another contract because he is the youth most in danger of exploding this year and making the flump we’re all hoping for. Nik was in the last year of his contract… if he had 17 goals by Christmas and he started talking to rival clubs, Wenger would have been a marked man… so I can roll with that extension (especially if as many major clubs were interested in his as his Dad reckons *snigger).
Denilson however… is a bit of a mystery. I appreciate that we’ve come so far with him now, he’s seems like he’s part of the furniture. I don’t really know what he offers bar a solidish player who can play across the midfield. He isn’t particularly bad at anything, but at the same time… you couldn’t say he really excelled at anything. He’s not particularly mobile, he’s not very creative and he’s not overly hard in the tackle. What he does do is provide neat passing in the main, he reads the game quite well and he’ll do an average job wherever you put him in the middle.
What gets my goat is Arsenal refused to offer Edu what he wanted a few years ago when he was looking to renew his contract, and we lost him on a free. He wasn’t everyone’s favourite, but he worked hard at his game and he was a very silky midfielder by the time the last year of his contract was up… and a Brazil international. A few year later, Flamini had just performed wonders as the 8th choice right back in the Champions league… started showing signs of becoming a top player… and the only thanks he got was the opportunity to sign for Birmingham. The next year, we quibbled over 10k… and now he is plying his trade in Milan.
If you are going to go to the nth degree to sign the average players down to long term deals, I hope going forward you do the same for the great players. If we have to renew Arshavins contract next summer after he storms the league this year… I don’t want to hear we let him go because a rival team was prepared to offer him £20k more a week than we were… and with our ridiculous wage bill, I don’t want to hear that we can’t compete on the wage side of things… if that’s the case, we should start cutting down the contracts of our kids in favour of giving that money to the people who bring in the pound notes… the experienced players.
I generally thought that in the business world, if you worked for a smaller company when you were young… you might get more responsibility early on… but the pay wouldn’t match the multi-nationals… that’s the price you paid to improve your CV. Why is that reversed for Arsenal? We sacrifice success at the cost of premium youth contracts… surely that has to be addressed over the next few years…
Right, contract rant over. I’m pleased for Denilson and Thomas B… I’d just like to see the same respect apportioned to everyone.
Finally, you may have heard that Stan Collymore was allegedly a touch racist about French people and Arsenal… if you agree, complain here… not that I’d want to see an esteemed dogger and lady beater get into trouble of course…
There’s also been a lot of coverage over the sick chanting at Old Trafford again… this was a very interesting piece by the Online Gooner here… and it’s good to see that the issue, after much blog coverage is finally getting some mainstream attention (Guardian). If you can prosecute Spurs fans for abuse, why not Manc fans… they might be above the law with refs, but they shouldn’t be with the Police.
Plenty to talk about today, happy Thursday Grovers!
Lets see what happens when Nik finishes the season as a 22 year old.
making comparison with bendtner and berg is looking for trouble if u ask me
pedro i can bet u nick dont score 15 this year
Bergkamp had 28 in 94 appearances at 21
Bendtner has 35 in 77 starts at club level, 22 for us, 8 international goals in 27
Bendtner is head of where Bergkamp was at that age in goalscoring
unless he plays in carling cup
Lets make that bet Fran…
A, thanks for that… not to mention that Bergkamp played in a weaker league pound for pound.
Franchise i’ll take that as a gentleman’s bet, he scored 14 last season, and has improved, and is likely to play more this season
Fran… it’s not asking for trouble… it’s just showing people that you can’t write a player off at 21 just because they’re not banging in goals like Messi.
A fuck the starts if u cant do the same for bergie
also fuck the intl goals
Bergkamp was born in 1969.
He wouldve been 21.
15 A, lets not underplay his contribution.
berg was talent of the year in the 1990 so he couldnt have done that bad
aliadiere was hopeless at 21 and he is still hopeless today
Fran 20.17.
Yeah sorry mate, I got a little carried away back there.
David, the year Bergkamp got 8 goals… he’d have finished the season 21 years old. The same comparative school year… Nik got 15.
u can paint bendy’s stats all u want we all know he is anything but prolific in front of goal
Speaking of international goals, really hope on saturday bendy plays as well as he did for denmark when he pissed all over portugal last time, could more or less put denmark into the world cup!
Yeah David, that season he scored 28 goals is the equivalent of this season for bendtner
Not quite.
He was born in may which means he played the whole season at the age of 20.
Noone’s trying to claim he is Franchise, people are just saying that Bergkamp wasn’t great at that age either. So if Bergkamp had arrived at the club at Bendtner’s age, and developed as Bendtner has, then he’d have had fans booing him and saying he’s shit!
… and I hate to say it, but the most Bergy ever managed for us was 22… and I think he joined when he was 26.
arse.com says bendtner has scored 24 in 98
which is still quite good requring no photoshopping
In fact, after his last year in Holland… he only managed more the 20 in a season once…
So there’s 4 months difference between their birthdays David – the fact that Bendtner would have 4 months extra at the age of 21 doesn’t make much difference!
I only counted 22 Franchise, my quick adding up must have been a bit retarded
David… you go by school years… they’d have been in the same school year… so it’s the right comparison.
Comparing NB to DB10 ? I like NB but DB had so much more to his game than goal scoring. Hopefully NB will develop in the same way, but I very much doubt he has DB’s intelligence.
Furthermore players develop at different ages. God8 was crap at 21 and he became an goal machine.
Fran re your ‘bet’. Please read my post from 17.05 it now looks quite prescient.
Pls let me know your thoughts….
Raddy… that’s the point… not that Nik is a better player than Bergy or will be.
Not quite. This is football. We’ll go by the season and the age. It sounds a bit silly comparing 30 year old players and comparing their school years. Should be no different for 20 year olds.
The fact is Bergkamp at 21 is better by far than Bendy at 21.
overall berg was good for us though the guy gave us so many great moments
all great players give moments
arshavin has only been here how many days but he has done some terrific things
goal against bburn, goals at anfield, goal at OT
bendtner doesnt look to have the talent to be that sort of player if u ask me i wld say jack wilshere, vela, merida, maybe ramsey are the youngsters that can bring such to the table
A. Damn right. My apartment overlooks the Parken where Denmark will play on Saturday.
If Nik can bag a couple he will be a national hero (though he already is as he plays for us !!)
David… it’s not silly. That’s how they would have come up through the ranks… in the same age group.
It’s silly because it proves that Bendtner is on track… and you don’t like that.
David surely by 21 the fact that Bergkamp had a worse scoring record in an easier league would show otherwise?! Bergkamp was an absolute legend, but a late bloomer
Franchise, maybe he won’t prove to be as good as Bergkamp… but if he can bag us 20 goals a season, that’ll be enough to justify his place in our squad.
SS if wenger keeps playing bendtner on the right and eboue ahead of him how is he going to score prolifically?
i said earlier
Franchise Says:
September 3, 2009 at 13:34
take bendtner for instance at 6ft 3in seems like our best built centre forward
the manager obviously doesnt trust him thru the middle so what is the point having him
ppl talk about what he might be in 5 years cos he is 21 and bergie was 26 when we signed him
who cares? the time is now
Ofcoarse it makes a world of difference A
Even if you want to compare theyre “school years” as Pedro suggested
Bergy Scoring is better.
At that age Berg’s goal scoring is 0.32 goals per game
Bendy’s goal scoring is 0.291 goals per game
fack.. i love the topics of discussion on le grove
I’ve got it sky plussed Raddy as I dunno if i’ll be home for it, ESPN seems to have good international matches.
… just like Drogba was…
32 games, 7 goals for Le Mans!
He was shite until 2002!
Saturday is Argie vs Brazil, who wins Messi or Kaka?
David, it’s good to know that over 33 games and 30 minutes, Bergkamp would have had one more goal on average than Nik… in a weaker league, with a comparatively better team.
Messi zeus, every time! Kaka is good but Messi is on a level of his own.
Franch
Bendy is absolutely useless as a lone striker. Even in international games he plays so deep you’d think he was a midfielder.
pedro dutch league was hot in the 80s
Pedro
Its very debatable. For one Bergy had less oppurtunities. For 2…Its no coincidence that Bendy’s goal scoring record is against “weaker teams”
Point taken Fran….but 15′s not exactly prolific. Bendy didn’t get too many starts last year for his decent return. 14 or 15 was it.
Are you saying that if he starts thru the middle you fully expect him to beat 15..??
My Q still stands… if we win the Pl or go very close, would you feel bad about having been so wrong, so strongly..??
Ah.
Indeed. The dutch league was definately hot in the 80′s i believe 1 or 2 teams won the UEFA cup?
where is rooney’s dive against us the other day in dive watch??
The time is now. Good title for a song …..
ade got 30 as the focus of the attack, bendtner could get 20 if he plays through the middle
ade at his best is definitely better than bendtner so far at his best
imo bendtner would lead the line better than vp does if given the chance especially aghainst juggernauts like vidic
Nikki B missed 4 against burnley alone!
and another 2 against blackburn.. had they gone in, he would’ve been our top scorer!
Yep. Ajax European Cup winners 88′
and we have to reflect on the fact that players usually comes trough younger age today than some years ago..players get younger and younger..
and i must say about flamini…he didnt prove much did he…one season…i think he is over rated..he should have stayed put..then maybe,,,pires stated the fact that Our Beloved Arsenal is a very special place to be…Bergkamp did..Vieira did..Henry did..Adams did..hleb is finally admitting it…we have something very special going on
”’
tom
I love these Bendy discussions…….
The man is a Gooner and proud to wear the red & white.. End of
Yeah Ajax were one of if not the best team in Europe for a time end of 80s early 90s David, they had a ridiculous assembly line of young wonderkids coming through.
In 10 years time we’ll hopefully be thought of in the same way!
and fran, stop being so negative about everything.
stop comparing bendtner to one of the best players to ever put on an arsenal shirt. if nik is half as good as bergkamp i’ll be pleased.
but i think he’ll be more than half, hes a big lad with bags of ability.
i would be happy SS if we win the league cos im judging us based on experience. experience being the last 4 years
wenger has not done this b4 and succeeded that is build a team from scratch filled with unproven inexperienced players
i look at our last title winning squad and look at this one and i look at the competition then and now and my brain tells me very slim chance
choy
There is no doubt that if he bangs in half his chances he’d be a top striker…but sadly he doesnt seem to be learning much from his mistakes. Seems to me he is just content to hold his head and look like in his own words a “Sunday League Player”…
I dont think its entirely his fault though. If he had a class striker to watch and learn from maybe he can start applying some mental aspects to his finishing…and know what he is actually trying to do not trying anything.
sam read back and find out who compared nik to bergie
if i wasnt negative there would be no one to chat with here
Yes Tom. The Arsenal is the greatest team the world has ever seen !
Still dodging the big Q eh Fran..?? ;-0
What pains me about the invinsibles is that we were predicted to dominate the league for years to come. But Wenger took that all apart.
Franchise. Compared to some, you are a shining light of positivity !
what Q?
Franchise \ David… I know Ajax were hot in the 80′s… but the Dutch league as a whole wasn’t.
The big players back then weren’t flocking to ply their trade over there were they!
So Bergy was playing in the best team of a generation, in a weak league… all I’m saying is his goal return looks weak when he was 21.
22 onwards is where he kicks off…
I agree David, I was looking and clips and to be honest to say that we didnt mke enough effort to keep the team together would be putting it mildly.
David.. yes just finishing required at 21.
Isn’t that a positive rather than a negative?
Posts crossed Fran..
Thnaks for your answer mate….
No offence mate buy I have to say that part of supporting a team is that sense of hope, even if its based on very little
I mean, it refreshed memories of their class and to be honest these kids are never gonna be that good. Cesc was good enough and he showed it early on, the rest well just keep hoping…….
David, Master B.
Who left in that summer of 2004..??
SS re Arsenal i can live with losses, lack of silverware etc but i really dont know what is going on from board to management level
the same trend every summer. same failed promises
im nothing but pawn to them all i can do is moan
i wish i could do more
i just couldnt agree more Big Raddy
all well on the Danish front i hope ?…
and a small point everyone seems to miss out on,when/if Fifa regulations on how to run a club financially correct makes more of an impact..and it will…Our Beloved Arsenal would be even better off…this is such a important point and i do suspect that Wenger and Arsenal are planning for it…
tom
Bergy started scoring goals when he was 21…not 22.
And i dont know if the rest of the teams in the Dutch league are any weaker than the lower teams in the EPL around the 80′s. Its certainly open for debate.
Choy
Its not just the finishing. Its the hold up play. Its his first touches….its his offensive awareness in relation to where the ball and defenders are…etc…etc..etc.
We are not having this conversation about Carlos Vela. And yet he’s younger.
just check out their touch, confidence, coordination. No way, I think they were the best team in the world at the time. I dont think even the current barca compares to them in class
SS
Did we win something in 2005?
the media loved us in 04. that is the point i was making the other day that ppl take the witch hhunt thingy too far
the ppl that hated us then still hate us now cos they were ex-spuds and liverpool fans that cant get over 89
if andy gray says i doubt arsenal are going to win the league a lot of ppl get pissed off but one cant really blame him
Pedro mate..
firstly hows Geoff gettin along,give him my best..
Ajax had the same magic as we do…telling by the fact that most of the players back in the days are returning,now if Ajax had the means today they could once more become a solid player in the game..not to forget that Ajax well was the founder of youth programming..together with Dinamo Kiev..who was greatly inflected by the military thow…
well just thoughts..
tom
tomstoned i must say i like ur style, everything u say sounds a bit tongue in cheek to me
u the opposite of bbk but same in in terms of charm levels
All good thanks Tom, though it absolutely pissed with rain here today, and I got soaked a number of times.
How is the frozen North?
You make a good point re: the finances.
And….. there is a proposal about having homegrown players in the team (5 I think). And at that point AW’s project youth will have added value. (If it comes to fruition)
sharkey Arsenal are the perrenial Chokers, but in terms of comparing that team at its peak to this there is no comparison. you are living in a world of what ifs, what then, If so, then this…… I mean it is a big pressumtion Bendy will ever be as good as Berk. Van scord more goals dosent make him a better player.
Fran….for me its all about the fact that our fit first 11 are a match for any team in the world…yes even Barca.
Thats surely something to be positive about and thankful for…
In 2005 chelsea got ninety fucking five points playing shite football.
He’s all good Tom, back tomorrow!
SSure
I think you are alone in that assumption. Especially with Almunia keeping and the fact that we have so many out injured.
Fit first 11…oh i misread that.
We still have ALmunia keeping and Song against Messi?
Geez man.
Kevin Phillips won the European Golden Boot and I think Bendtner is a better player now than KP ever was.
Goals are not the be all and end all for a forward.
Big Raddy..
Glad to hear that everythings going fine..be happy its just rain mate…snowflakes here yesterday..and cold as..hehe…still what a start to the season…im impressed with the Team…and that keeps me warm…started negotiations with Misses …christmas shopping in London..so here its all about Oxford Street..selfridges..manicure and pedicure…all is allowed in love and war..isnt it…well it looks good so far…and i have high hopes in grabbing a couple of games this year…:)
tom
In 2005 Chelski got ninety fucking five point playing shite football. Defence has been our archilees heel, like it was against MANURE.
It isn’t Song against Messi is it David. It is Clichy and TV against Messi ….. not that the outcome would be that much different
Ahm, your saying Bents finishing and overall play is better than KP…….OK.
Tom
Are there cheap flights up to you from Copenhagen? I have never been further North than Aalborg !
BR
Reason i say that its because A,
In the past has been so kind to explain to me the system which Barca play with Messi cutting in the middle often times and rotating with Eto O or in recent times Ibrahimovic.
So a Messi vs Song would not be unheard off.
Its still the ultimate slap in the face after the FA cup final against chelsea that proved the failure of project youth.
A guy like Cana would be useful against messi, the way Yaya cancelled CR7 in the CL final.
SS that is the problem we wont face barca when we want to
we would face them when denilson and song are the only fit midfielders knowing our luck
eboue would also be the only player without a doubt
cesc, nasri, vp, rosicky, arshavin would be 50-50
if we had money we dont have any excuse for not strengthening when we could
unless there is smtin the club is not telling us re funds
MB. I didn’t say that his finishing is as good. As to his overall play…. definitely. Which is why Phillips never played for a decent team.
David. Win..?? More like stole….I’m on record on here as saying I preferred the 2006 loss to the 2005 ‘win’. That win was a little embarrassing.
Master B, wot that team did was out of this world, were you hoping it would happen again the following year..??
That team had (possibly?) peaked age wise and performance wise. Fabregas and Reyes (prev Jan) were added to that team to bring some youth to it.
My point was that we basically had the same players the following year and we did not achieve a great deal. That team cannot serve as a credible benchmark fior other Arsenal teams to follow….well thats my opinion anyway
kevin phillips was a very good finisher and he did well in most clubs he went to after his 30 season
David. Whilst I can accept your Song argument, I really cannot agree about the Chavs game.
Big Raddy..
Yes there are…if you check Ryanair they have cheap travels up here mate…
Aalborg was the town all Norwegians travelled to back in the 80′s…boxing…ole klemetsen you know..havent been back there though..but nice city great people..good food..good beer…all around a nice place.:)
tom
well if your opposition has a player like messi, ronadinho etc your DM can manmerk them, when you loose possession
Thanks Pedro
tom
Dunno how that relates to me David?
You mean the League Cup final against Chelsea?? IMO that league cup campaign proved the success of project youth
David. ‘fit first 11′ meaning chosen from a fully fit squad.
Fair play re Almunia though…he’s out!!
The thing is Forwards are mainly there to finish chances and if they cannt do that, well just put them in the midfield if hes so creative. Albiet ive seen Bendy whip in some delicious crosses.
You arent convinced about the FA cup?
Well how about the 4-1 drubbing at home?
We ended the game with Essentially the same team.
No Arshavin.
Infact its the fact that we do have Arshavin thats saving our skins against the Mancs.
Right, I’m hitting the sack… have a good one!
Geoff is back on tomorrow…!
Thats because in your opinion A,
losing is winning. Its a bit weird. but i accept you as you are no worries
nite Pedro…
tom
Franchise. Would you have been happy to see Phillips at THOF ?
I wouldn’t.
David. I refer you to A 21.43
Nite Ped…
Thats me out n’all guys…
Nite all
Sharkey
I will NEVER prefer a loss to a win.
let me repeat that.
I WILL NEVER PREFER A LOSS TO A WIN.
Do you think the Mancs give a toss about how “embarrased” they feel they won the game last saturday?
No. 3 points is 3points…unless ofcoarse ure playing for a trophy which is doubly important.
I’m going to bed with Pedro
You said final David, so I assumed you meant when the kids lost in the league cup final, rather than the fa cup game last year, although that proved absolutely nothing imo!
I mean the kids still crack under pressure, they couldnt string together 2 passes in the second half against the MANCS and having played competitive sports I could tell It was nerves and it has been that way in all big games that we have played.
Even if they have the skill, they are not gonna show it at the highest level. The mancs were much more compossed and clinical on the counter.
I mean what do you put the Almunia and Diaby mistakes down to, the occassion got to them and they lost their nerve.
Raddy.
Losing by 2-1 or losing by 4-1. Take your pick.
And in both cases it proves success?
When did we lose 4-1 in the fa cup David? I’m getting more confused….
I said the league cup campaign proved that project youth was baring fruit, it showed that a bunch of kids we were bringing through were capable of getting to the final of a competition, and giving as good as they got against one of the best sides around. Although it would have been nice to win, it was the same as the reserves and youths, more about the performance than the result
nite Big Raddy
keep it clean you hear !!!
tom
nite SharkeySure..
tom
I was talking bout Chelsea game at home and the fa cup Semi final. Granted Silveste was in the team at home. But it was essentially the same project youth team without Arshavin in the FA cup final. It only proves that this team without experienced class cant challenge for anything.
Right…im off to the gym. I’ll be sure to be back lamenting how we didnt sing a CF and how VanP is wasted in the CF position…Nikki B isnt the Answer and how Jan and Chamakh cant come sooner.
A we agree project youth is great if you want to second best. I am proud that a team with Arsenal resources and histroy can produce a team that is second best at everything. Thanks for that.
oh ok David. Well we lost the FA Cup semi because of silvestre, so I don’t think you can blame the youth project!
huh Master B, you’ve lost me
Does anyone know if the u21 game is on tomorrow?
The point of competition is to win, doing it gracefully… well thats only inportant if you win.
My point being that, It is not good enough if you cannt finish off the good work that you have started. Which these kids cannot, it is obvious.
We as fans should not stand for being second best, if we can be the finished article with a little more effort and investment in players.
Unless Arsenal is in great financial trouble, not spending 20 mil more cannot be justified.
Yes its great to blood youngster, If they can can come in to a winning team to slowly replace established stars, until that happens its not worth loosing just so we spend resources and more importantly our emotions, on players who will leave once they are established.
well off..
Have a great evening all Gooners and Grovers alike…
later all…
tom
One of the things that are most important to players, besides money is trophes, and even the like of henry and cesc wont stay if they dont achive it, so you are back at step one. Its a vicious cycle a downward spiral and we have been in it for the last 4/5 years.
Viera, Henry, Gilberto(still a starter in the Brazilian national team), Edu, Pires loved arsenal. The first two left because they knew they would never win the CL with Arsenal(Henry even hinted at it in the post final interview, saying Arsenal were not a big Club yet). They were vocal about Arsene not signing established stars.
The rest were pushed out. I think Arsene sometimes dosent give established players the respect they deserve for what they have given the club in the past even though they dont justify their current wage.
Viera left because he couldn’t win the cl with us then joined a team that we pissed on in the cl the following season.
Vieira was offloaded because he couldn’t last 90 minutes anymore, Henry because he was crocked, Gilberto left because we couldn’t guarantee him first team football and he wanted that to keep his place with Brazil, Edu and Pires were allowed to go at the end of their contracts which was a pity, but again neither were guaranteed first team footy anymore
who did we get to replace gilberto, edu, pires, viera who has had the same impact.
Henry could have regained fitness, who have we replaced him with, whos doing the same job he is in barca.
I dont know but it was always obvious any player that makes it with arsenal wants to leave, ade, hleb recent examples, hleb left because Arsenal wassnt a big enough club for him.
Hleb left because london was too noisy for him… lol
LOL, well that and no trophies… Im not saying they made the right choice, but is Arsene running a sustainable model. Considering we are a big four club, our players show the least loyalty and finances and fame or the lake there of plays a big role.
*lack…….im chory
If we hadn’t sold Henry then we wouldn’t have been able to get Eduardo Master B. Henry was also on ridiculous wages, and had been crocked for two seasons, and arrived at Barca fucked as well. He was good again last season, but we couldn’t keep him at such an expense that it would eat away at our funds massively.
The best way to improve our financial situation is to win things….namely the CL(winner gets a cool 150mil for fucking 9 games, two titles and we can kiss our debt goodbye, muanh….)
Thats how big clubs get bigger, not by arsing bout the semis with kids and complaing about the finances.
Most of our current best players(RVP,Arsh) are complaining about the lack of signings. RVP took a long time to sign an extension why?????
Even Fab thinks we should try Viagra(Impotence).
ahm Edvardo hasst been crocked at all has he now, hes played more games for us then Henry during Injury and at Barca.
I think I get it now, I can finally see the light.
What is this about Chelsea’s signing ban?
It’s hilarious Luke, they can’t sign any players until 2011
Master B why are you making things up – you don’t get £150 mil from winning the champions league now do you!
Bendtner and Denilson took longer to sign an extension, we’ve got absolutely no idea why contracts were signed when they were!
We couldn’t really expect Eduardo to break his leg could we
no doubt that decision will get over turned as it always does with them
i feel eduardo will get banned for even more games now they should just accept the punishment and move on they should also tell that diving cunt eboue to stop that shit aswell
A Says:
September 3, 2009 at 22:51
If we hadn’t sold Henry then we wouldn’t have been able to get Eduardo Master B. Henry was also on ridiculous wages, and had been crocked for two seasons, and arrived at Barca fucked as well.
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and you say i talk shit !
you couldnt know what henry
WOULD HAVE DONE OR NOT !
he wasnt played as much by barca due to competition and also took a differing role
in a 3-3-4 when he did .
also he only had 1 shit scoring season .
the last , and for good reason he had back issues .
also then we couldnt get dudu ?
WHY 1stly ?
are you admitting we only buy if we sell ?
or are a selling club ?
and secondly dudu if you want to deal with the facts only played a handful of games prior to getting injured as wenger favored ade and nik together , thus limiting dudu’s time on the pitch .. just when he hit his stride he got the injury ..
to say we would be worse off than with TH14
given what happened to dudu is pure fabrication
and speculation
you blabber on in the most misdirected fashion , and secondly id like to hear from you as to why
i talk rubbish ?
what have i said recently ?
that wenger wasnt interested with numchucks ?
or we dont really need a clinical finisher when both our MAIN strikers still havent scored in 5 games ?
or that big al is shit and we need another goalie ?
or for years that ade is crap and the second he has gone we play better ?!
i cant think of too many things i say that dont hold true …
UNLIKE YOU and Everton finishing 3rd HAHAHAHAHA
and man U out of the top four . your a fuckin joke man !
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Arsene musta said hey mitchel how about that dive from the granny shagger
lol Goonersmith, when was that? Platin looks bored out of his mind listening to those 2. Delighted…i hope they are giving him an earful.
I am finally over the Utd loss as I have drawn this conclusion…
In the game of football, shit happens and players make mistakes. That is a given aspect of the game, and you can only try to control it so much. The best players in the world make mistakes. We went to old trafford and outplayed them. We were missing Cesc, Nasri, Rosicky, arguably 3 starting eleven midfielders. We made united’s first choice midfield look pathetic with our second choice midfield in my opinion. We lost concentration, gave up a penalty. We still looked good, VP hit the bar, what else is new. Then Diaby headed it in. He made a huge mistake, but those things happen. We played great minus the two mistakes, and we did it without our starting midfield at old trafford, with a horrible ref. The form our boys are in will bring points. It already has. 6 pts out of 9 is not bad. THe form utd in will cause them to lose to teams like burnley. They played horribly, got lucky, and wound up with the points. You cant get lucky for a whole season. Im proud of the boys, and I want to give big al and diaby a hug, more than I want to hit them in the face or kick them in the balls. COME ON YOU GOONERS!
Diaby looks to be like he is mostly half asleep even while playing. Injuring players in training, and committing blunders can be attributed to only this reason. Was not it Diaby too when sneijder was
injured in the emirates cup last time?
Daiby needs to be subbed at 60th minute if he starts. Cannot stay concentrated.