‘Well, you have to admit, we did have a bad run of injuries…’
I feel like getting a banner of that excuse to go next to the ‘In Arsene We Trust’ one that is prominently on display at the Emirates. It’s been the bog standard excuse for failure for near enough 5 years now. So I thought it was about time I conducted some research into the problem to establish exactly what hell is going on at the Grove.
All my research has been aided by a professional sports scientist who works for a well known Ruggerball club in London. I haven’t gone into serious detail because to be quite frank, it’s all a little bit too complicated and I would imagine it would be a little boring first thing in the morning… so here goes.
First things first… stop blaming the medical team. The medical team deal with the injuries that are handed to them… there is nothing they can do to prevent and injury… that job falls directly at the feet of the fitness coach. Colin Lewin and Gary O’Driscoll are exempt here.
The head of fitness goes by the name of Tony Colbert. He looks like a drill sergent and boasts the same qualifications as my friend…
His resume states:
‘Tony ensures that players can withstand what is always a highly rigorous season for first-team regulars at the Club’
and..
‘Tony worked with a range of sportsmen before joining the club and is an expert in football-specific fitness. He has also delivered lectures and developed a range of fitness training courses for health and fitness organisations – and has managed various gyms and fitness centres’
I am chuffed to bits that the best Arsenal.com could manage when advertising their head of fitness is that he has managed fitness centres and he has worked with a range of sportsmen. I need names people… I also thought it was interesting to read that he ensures players can withstand a rigorous season… because from where I’m sitting, that is clearly not the case.
Apparently there are a few categories of injury… impact injuries that are non-preventable, like, say, the Eduardo break. Then there are soft tissue and wear and tear injuries… which in the main, are preventable with good fitness coaching.
Lets have a look at the problems we have suffered.
Abou Diaby: Spends more time in the medical centre than Colin Lewin’s medical bag. Consistently injured for the past 2-3 seasons.
Robin Van Persie: Although he put in a good stretch last year, he managed to spend the previous 3 years out injured for large chunks of the season.
William Gallas: Again, he had a good year last season… but has previously spent a long time out and even complained about the staff and how they handled his injuries.
Rosicky: Do I even need to go into detail here?
The reason I raise this important question about injuries is because it is very important. A good team will struggle to cope with any more than 3 key player loses for any amount of time. The last time we went close in the Premiership… the key loss for the team wasn’t Eduardo… it was Rosicky, Sagna and Flamini. We lost them at key points in the season and never recovered.
Last season I appreciate we were out of it pretty early on… but losing Cesc for four months, Rosicky for the year, Eduardo nearly all of the season and Nasri proved detrimental.
So the question is, why do our players get injured more than any other teams? It won’t be our training ground… the pitches are perfect, it won’t be the matches… because everyone else plays them… and I refuse to blame luck… becuase Villa, Chavski, United and Liverpool seem to manage better than us. So what is it? What are our fitness staff doing so wrong?
Why when Rosicky and Eduardo return from long periods out do they pick up countless injures for months? I can appreciate that your muscles will be weaker… but that didn’t hinder Essiens recovery from cruciate damage… he was out for 8 months, came back and stayed back. Why are our players different? Why is it that when John Terry or Christaino Ronaldo get ruled out for a month, they are back in 3 weeks… yet our players are supposed to be out for 3 weeks and come back 4 months later? How can the youngest team in the Premiership suffer the most with injuries… that seems illogical?
It leads me to one conclusion… our players returns are not being managed correctly. Compare Tony Colberts CV to that of Manchester Uniteds fitness coach Tony Strudwick or Real Madrid’s Valter Di Salvo and you start to wonder how qualified our man is. He does afterall, hold one of the best jobs in world football and arguably… he’s not doing a very good job.
This isn’t something I feel people from either side of the AKB fence can dig me out over… it’s an excuse everyone points to… How many more years do we have to suffer the same problems? How many more times must we witness the same miserable injury patterns before someone at Arsenal addresses the issue? I ask, because it only seems to be us in the top 4 who suffer every single season… and this year things look no different and we haven’t even kicked a ball yet.
I did a module on sport and popular culture in my degree and studied exactly this, I really wouldn’t have gone that far to parrot Wenger’s beliefs!
I’m sorry A, but you’re still not talking sense.
Name me one Mourinho signing that was more about ‘brand’ than about the quality of the player?
Indeed, I can actually only think of one player in the world who’s image and brand is actually worth more than what he can achieve on the pitch. And it’s pretty obvious who that is.
Mourinho is a Twant,
“It wasn’t really until 06/07 that their defensive style crystalised,”
It was always defensive, it wasn’t sOo much crystalisation as Chelsea selling off the few players that carried any sort of spark in their team, they’ve got rid of players like Duff and Robben and replaced them with players like Kalou and malouda, dull and efficient and thats about it.
shevchenko jimbo?
Jimbo, Sheva.
Yeah Keyser, it was so defensive that they just happened to score 72 goals a year, which is a more than respectable total – more than anyone in the league in 08/09, apart from Liveprool.
Generally, people are confusing the teams of 04/05 and 05/06 – they were BASED on a great defence, but they weren’t all about great defence. Lampard, Drogba, Duff Robben, Cole, even Gudjohnsen were great attacking players for them back then, and going forward they were an incredibly powerful outfit.
And we can say Ballack as well. He’s been poor ever since he came. Nothing special.
Sheva?
Even after everything that was said about Abramovich wanting him, and Mourinho not?
Are you serious?
and anyways, i’m not talking about the managers, i’m talking about the fans. They’re more obsessed, and interested in the brand of a player, than the football. They get ridiculously excited, and angry, that teams aren’t signing players who they’ve never even seen play!!
They just want us to sign anyone, spend as much money as possible. Get excited about the likes of Melo and Huntelaar, say that we should sign barry, cattermole, hangeland.
People have spent much much less time talking about the football over the summer, than they have rabbitted on about the fact that we’ve gotten £40 mil, so we MUST spend all of it, why aren’t we spending it, fuck it, we’ve got £40 mil, so we should spend £30 mil on yaya, de rossi etc etc
Sometimes it works A, sometimes it doesn’t…just like in life, sometimes you have to take risks. For every Shevchenko, Chelsea have an Essien and a Drogba.
And regardless of that, even though he flopped, we’re talking about a player who scored around 130 goals for Milan – are you honestly telling me he was just bought for ‘celebrity’?
No A, you were talking about managers, when you accused Mourinho of making ‘celebrity style signings’ (your words).
And people are ‘rabbitting’ because Wenger is continuing to fuck about without fixing the blatent problems with his side.
He’s a man who makes the same mistakes year after year, and you know what, most fans are sick of his bullshit.
Right, that’s me bedtime.
Jimbo, Sheva was a shocking buy.
he had a very poor season in his last season with Milan. Only idiots believe that he couldn’t adapt to the PL. He was just as bad in his last season w/ the rossoneri
How convenient is that ? Schevchenko was an Abramovich signing, Mourinho’s definetly got people in his spell.
Like you said Jimbo, going forward they were ‘powerful’, efficient and generally dull, they constricted play, didn’t concede and caught teams out at the other end, the only player that was really exciting was probably Robben and on the odd occassion Cole.
Thats pretty pathetic, good point of discussion though Jimbo well done.
so what we shouldn’t spend the 40 mill we should just stagnate as we have been doing for these past 4 years
Gallas was the worst performer for France today, according to player ratings.
He got a 5.0: Anything but a captain’s performance from the Arsenal man, who endured something of a nightmare first half, allowing players to run off him and gifting Bo and Benjaminsen free headers, which both could have proved costly.
So tell me A, Denilson or Yaya?
(I can’t believe I’m even asking that question)
i believe you would ask that question .
as you are clueless !
Denilson of course. Stats don’t lie ;P
Ethan just relax for christ’s sake. Bloody hell. Read through my posts before you start acting like I’m the anti-christ.
ethan you are an obnoxious fool, get a life son.
Wenger, however, insists his side will have the last laugh. “I envisage only one order,” the 59-year-old insisted. “That is Arsenal finishing on top and all the rest can do what they want. We are a team who has a way to play and we are a team who are ready to fight.”
When asked whether he thought Arsenal were better than the other teams challenging for the title, the Frenchman replied: “We are, I’m convinced of that.’’
And while many believe a lack of experience will again prevent Arsenal from mounting a genuine title challenge, Wenger believes the squad’s youth could be the club’s trump card.
“A team which averages 28 or 29 years old can maybe improve by 5% but a team averaging 22 years old can improve by 30%. Will we achieve that or not? That’s always a question mark and it’s very difficult to rate before the season has started,’’ he said.
Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/wenger-convinced-gunners-set-for-title-98644.html#ixzz0O1IGuMMU
But what are the chances of keeping all the players together until they all fulfill that 30% faceman? That’s why most top teams sign top players during this window. You don’t have much time to get to that 30%, usually just a year… Wenger wants another 2 by the sounds of it. I don’t think it’s right to tell people to wait 7 years in total but also tell them you have the money to spend as well.
Shevchenko was signed because he was romans 3yr old sons favorite player.
Someone said ballack was a shit signing, what on a free? hmmmm I suppose we add him to “shit” terry aswell.
“Celebrity signings” yeah right, times are so desperate in the pro wenger camp that people have to invent excuses for failure and now phrases that try and play down the importance of spending money to get quality.
Tune in next week when we talk about the importance of taking part as opposed to winning.
Laters.
test even tho he was free.. what ever the chavs would have paid to his club has just gone in his pocket instead.
to much cash i would have thought
Sorry, I had to run off, then had to do my daily fitness as I didn’t realise it was late, so missed out a fair bit!
Jimbo – read what I wrote, I never said that Mourinho did celebrity style signings, nor did I say he’s the reason clubs are run like a circus, I just said those are things that would never entertain me in football, and things I hate, along with the things that Mourinho brings, anti-football, win at all costs, cheating etc etc
Angelos noone in the world would choose denilson over yaya, yaya is the best dm in the world, and denilson is a decent dm with attributes that don’t suit our style of play in the slightest, what’s that got to do with anything though?!
Wenger said in a years time if we havn’t won anything then it’s a case of completely uprooting everything and starting again, so I doubt he’s saying wait two more years….
fuck of faceman you ignorant fool !
Better get used to it. We are winning the league this year.
You can get used to it now, or in April. You will enjoy the season more if you get used to it now.
Arsene was speaking after seeing that his bids for genuine defensive talent will come through before deadline day.
Test I’m sorry but Terry has been shit for a good two years, I’ve not seen him have a good game, or even an average game in a long time, and if he wasn’t Mr Chelsea they would have brought in someone who’s a far better footballer than him. Slow, and his reading of the game is crap, he makes alot of mistakes but people let him off because he’s so determined and such a leader. Symptomatic of the British mindset, British bulldog machismo type bollocks, which has resulted in us prioritising those sorts of players over actual talent, and a culture that produces very few technically talented footballers
Wenger wants another 2 by the sounds of it. I don’t think it’s right to tell people to wait 7 years in total but also tell them you have the money to spend as well.
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well wenger knows more than you …
sound familiar
Angelos
you rammed that shit down my throat the other day !
we come on to blog with an opinion !
not have fellow bloggers tear strips off of us !
and as for that muppet faceman , you are a a blogging gimp ..
you wouldnt know if your ass was on fire even if you were wearing leather pants with the cheeks cut out !
shut the fuck up and call me a cunt again and youll start a war of words you will regret .
Didn’t say I aggreed with everything Wenger does or says. But he definitely knows more than me so I’m not going to slag him off as if he’s a nobody.And like I said, I’d rather trust a three time Premiership winner and two times Champions League finalist that a guy who comes on a board to tell people to ‘fuck off’.
Just coz i think he knows more than you or me it doesn’t mean he isn’t wrong…just show some respect. Or not whatever…I couldn’t care less anymore.
PDT
???
i didnt know it was weed season over in singapore what you been smokin son ?
win the league ..
we will be lucky to qualify for the C.L rounds
ethan go away and count to ten. just forget about past disagreements and don’t hold grudges, doing so and coming onto a blog to attack just makes you look very silly
Angelos
Just coz i think he knows more than you or me it doesn’t mean he isn’t wrong
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oh no ! you clearly told me wenger was right
you said ARSENE KNOWS more ..
if arsene knew he wouldnt have sold most of his prime assets over the past few years , he wouldnt let key players leave !
he wouldnt be in this seemingly endless round about of players coming and going , or not sell ade when he was clearly rubbish the season before last ..
or not play AA against the chev’s
or bring on his 1st team players after we were already 4 nil down vS the spuds .
or realize that rosicky has been injury for 2 years and to try and hold onto hleb as a result.
or let flamini go on a free ..
or sell diarra ….
or not recruit for a better class of player !
yes thank fuck he knows ! EH!!!
Ethan…since when does knowing MORE mean knowing ALL?
and as for who started what i was talking to A , when you started BUTTING IN ! telling wenger wenger KNOWS ! and i basically know fuck all !
so if your gonna be a prick then at least man up ..
Ethan…since when does knowing MORE mean knowing ALL?
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then why start a fight then ???
you contradict yourself at every turn , you even just commented negatively on him before ?!?!
oh i get it you can do it , but people who have been regulars here for 2 years cant ???
RIGHT ?
A : i hear you .. but one thing i am is a stickler for justice , its like educating the ignorant
Ethan I agree. I would have done things differently as well. Maybe not the players leaving because I don’t think he had much control over that…especially Flamini. (Diarra’s a different story completely)
But the signings of class players is definitly something that bugs me…Not to the point that I swear blindly and cuss him as if he’s just shot a pregnant woman.
-Wenger wants another 2 by the sounds of it. I don’t think it’s right to tell people to wait 7 years in total but also tell them you have the money to spend as well.
-Yeah A, it’s one thing to defend Wenger and another just copying his beliefs.
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You are such a fucking hypocrite !
Oh Ethan, I never started a fight over it…I wouldn’t. I don’t know you and definitely don’t care about you enough to get as emotionally hyped as you seem to get.
I commented negatively? I don’t have a problem with negativity. You can get as riled up as you like. What I have a problem with is negativity to the extent you swear and act as if the man’s the dumbest guy on the planet.
ethan:
Whatever your point some of your statements are simply false:
- Ade scored 30 goals season before last, everyone including this board was praising him. He wasn’t rubbish and despite agitating like crazy to move out Wenger did not let him.
- Hleb threatened to buy back the remaining years on his contract so he would have gone anyway.
- Flamini said for most of the year that he was going to sign a new contract. Then at the very end he said he would not and left. What was Wenger to do? Sign him earlier? But you and your ilk were clamouring that he was not good enough for Arsenal and not make it until well into his last season with us.
In hindsight everything is sooooo much easier. Wenger is nor perfect but your examples reek of bad faith.
What’s wrong with what I said to A ethan?? I would be a hypocrite if I believed in everything Wenger does and said that…but as I made clear, I don’t. I still respect the guy and think he is in a better position than us to make choices for the club.
i wasnt swearing and blinding i was saying santa cruz would at least be worth a punt !
to A !
saying also that wenger was interested in him a few years ago and even if we sold nik B for 11 and got santa cruz prior to those man shitty pricks it would have been IN WENGERS WORDS , improving the team …
then you stepped in and told me WENGER KNOWS MORE THAN ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!
don’t wanna start another discussion ethan, but imo bendtner currently is superior to santa cruz, so it wouldn’t be improving the team, and bendtner will still improve shitloads, whereas santa cruz won’t! I’d bet that bendtner will score more goals this season too!
santa cruz has had one good scoring season his entire career, imo we’d have been better off keeping ade than signing him!! Though i’d rather have neither and arshavin, eduardo, and vp can be our front three, bendtner, theo, and vela in reserve
Actually I said I liked Santa Cruz too ethan. Ask A if you can’t bother reading back.
And don’t act as if you don’t talk about Wenger as if he’s a mug on here all the time. That’s my problem, not that you think the squad needs investing.
A, I think Santa Cruz is so much better. Don’t make me have to copy and paste what I’ve already said.
And ethan who are you to tell me when to participate in a discussion on a board. Get a grip you egomaniac.
the flamini thing was a big mistake. huge. he was a big asset as a squad player before he broke into the team properly, and as a midielder, an integral part of our team. he was well liked, had a great attitude on the pitch, and kept our midfield ticking over. that he was allowed to leave for free, or rather, to enter into a final year on his contract without tying him down, was ridiculous. whether it was wenger or the board or whatever, it was ridiculous. how we miss him, he is exactly the player we lack.
I don’t have regrets about Flamini, he was never going to be a great player, though he did fit into our system superbly well in that one season. Before that though he was a utility player, and threw a paddy about playing anywhere apart from centre mid, and with it looking very unlikely he’d make it for us as a centre mid a new contract wasn’t going to happen that summer. In hindsight obviously it would have been better, but at the time I don’t think many if any would have done things differently back then.
MATT
ethan:
Whatever your point some of your statements are simply false:
- Ade scored 30 goals season before last,
(he scored 24 !!! ) 19 TIL DEC 07 AND 5 IN THE YEAR 08 !
everyone including this board was praising him.
I WASNT ! AND NEVER HAVE .. ASK ANYONE HERE!
HE IS TOO DISRUPTIVE IN THE FINAL 3RD, & WHILST HE IS SCORING GOALS IT WAS OBVIOUSLY OVERLOOKED BY EVERYONE OTHER THAN FOOTBALL PURISTS .
HIS TIME RAN OUT I KNEW IT WOULD ..GAME OVER !
He wasn’t rubbish and despite agitating like crazy
OH YES OFFSIDES AND A POOR 1ST TOUCH IS JUST A BYPRODUCT OF EVERY GOOD FOOTBALLER ! hahaha!
PULL THE OTHER ONE ..
to move out Wenger did not let him.
YES WENGER LOST 10 MIL AND 1 YEARS DOWN TIME WITH THAT SMART DESISION DIDNT HE !?
- Hleb threatened to buy back the remaining years on his contract so he would have gone anyway.
YES IM SURE A CONTRACT THAT HE COULDNT SAY NO TO MIGHT HAVE CHANGED HIS MIND !
HE LEFT FOR MONEY …. FACT HE SAID SO , HE SAID HE ISNT GETTING ANY YOUNGER .. AND BASICALLY LEFT , BECAUSE HE SAID ‘SHOW ME THE MONAAAYYY ‘
- Flamini said for most of the year that he was going to sign a new contract.
I DIDNT BELIEVE IT FOR A SECOND ASK PAT THE GOON , HE STILL OWES ME 2 BEERS FROM NOV 07 WHEN I MADE THE BET TO HIM SAYING FLAMINI WILL NOT SIGN AND DIARRA WILL BE SOLD AND WE WILL BE LEFT WITH NO DM !IT WAS ALL ABOUT MONEY , ANYONE KNOWS IF YOUR A FREE AGENT YOULL GET A TIPPING FEE
SO DID FLAMINI ,SO HE CASHED IN ., YET WE GAVE 130 K A WEEK TO ADE
Then at the very end he said he would not and left. What was Wenger to do? Sign him earlier? But you and your ilk were clamouring that he was not good enough for Arsenal and not make it until well into his last season with us.
In hindsight everything is sooooo much easier.
IT WAS NEVER HIND SIGHT FOR ME CHECK THIS BLOGS ARCHIVE 1 YEAR AGO OR MORE .. I SAID THE SAME THING THEN , AS NOW !
Wenger is nor perfect but your examples reek of bad faith.
OH YES IN WENGER WE TRUST , HOURRARRRARRR!
HE HAS LEAD US THIS FAR RIGHT ?
HOW MANY HONOURS HAVE WE GOT IN THE PAST 5 YEARS ?
HOW EXPENSIVE IN THE ARSENAL EPL TICKET ?
MATT GO BACK TO ACLF ..
WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT BELIEVE THE DROSS YOUR PREACHING .
http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/3176475/
i think flamini was treated poorly by the club. not saying he’s an angel, but if an effort was made to keep him, with a year left on his contract, i believe he would have stayed. i know his last year was his best with us, but i feel he had proved his worth previously, and then went on to surpass that.
Ethan, it’s simple, if you feel so strongly that Wenger is neutering the club then don’t watch until he leaves. It’s like trash talking about an ex girlfriend…after a point you just have to get over it.
MATT
http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/24992/I_wouldnt_have_given_you_£2_million_for_Adebayor.aspx
ANGELOS ,
NO ! actually when it comes to club defending i stand up for wenger , i know its the board who are holding out on the money side of things ..
i can tell what he is liable for and what he is not ..
he is liable for poor team selections , poor recruitment , and i dislike his actions when it comes to playing players out of there natural positions .
but your shying away from the point , the point is i was discussing santa cruz when you told me wenger knows more than i , and as you agree with me it was hypocritical of you to have a poke at me !!!
Angelos Says:
August 13, 2009 at 03:29
Ethan, it’s simple, if you feel so strongly that Wenger is neutering the club then don’t watch until he leaves.
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sorry no can do , unlike you i am a passionate fan who loves his club and hates what is happening to it !
many here feel the same way ..
Ethan. Wenger knows more than you.
omg…sorry if you see it as a poke me telling you a man who has been managing for about 30 to 40 years and has won a multitude of top trophies knows more than you on football matters. Get a hold of yourself and quit being a baby. If you concentrate harder you might see that I’m not actually a hypocrite. It wasn’t about Santa Cruz it was the way you express your views and how you talk down to Wenger.
aa23
yes it sure looks like it …
no its the basis of your arguments both you and aa23
your saying ARSENE KNOWS …
have you looked at the top of the blog ??
the AKB guide ?!?
well if he ‘knows’ then both of you fuck off to arsenal .com and dont interact with fans who clearly are not happy with the current past 5 years then !!!!
if you want to read about him and believe in his banter then dont interact with fans who
clearly disapprove ..
i think both of you need to read todays post from 100′s of bloggers who happen to agree
WITH ME !
“Passionate”….Yeah obviously. Getting yourself down so much over an organisation that is merely there to entertain you.
Arsenal is not the mother of your children Ethan. And don’t mistake my overwhelming boredome for ‘shying away’.
angelos
oh yes wenger career , failed in france , when to japan , then was brought in by dein , who since leaving has also failed …
wenger is a great COACH , but his management , especially last season has most shaking there heads !
and these are not just fans , they are ex-players , pundits and football critics of the highest level , all saying the same thing !
but somehow we should believe a half albanian -greek dude who butts into someone elses conversation and says ARSENE KNOWS !
yes right
I really don’t want to hear about Wenger…I just think he demands a bit more respect than what some foul-mouthed people on here seem to give him while they’re airing their ‘expert’ opinions on him and the team.
Angelos Says:
August 13, 2009 at 03:55
“Passionate”….Yeah obviously. Getting yourself down so much over an organisation that is merely there to entertain you.
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well if thats how you feel go fuck off and read a book or do something that is a passion for you .
because football obviously isnt
arsenal obviously isnt !
your just some retard with a big mouth who
who isnt even worthy of putting on the red and white ! dont waste my time anymore ..
also dont expect me to not be angered by your fucked up ways …. your just an argumentative twat ..
I’m half Algerian actually and my race has nothing to do with this so I don’t know why you’re bringing it up. Ethan…would it be easy for you to not talk to me. I haven’t sworn at you, haven’t threatened you or been aggressive in anyway and don’t respect you acting up on me like that. Have some respect. You think because you have the same opinions as Pedro and Geoff that you can do and say whatever you want.
i wasnt even commenting on WENGER !
i was commenting WITH ‘ A ” about santa cruz when you opened your huge wind tunnel of a mouth !
and i definitely dont swear with A , as i have respect for my fellow bloggers !
i just dont like NEWBIES coming in ruining a perfectly good debate with the stifling crap like …. ARSENE KNOWS !!
well you saying ARSENE KNOWS to me is disrespect , for fuck sake read the rules of the blog ..
and stop gimping on like a little girl !
Ethan I just wanted to see you flip your lid again.
ethangunner Says:
August 13, 2009 at 04:03
well if thats how you feel go fuck off and read a book or do something that is a passion for you
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No…I’ll carry on with my degree
Take care of my sister
Give attention to my girlfriend
Watch some games abroad with my dad
and visit friends and family in Greece
I’ll watch Arsenal matches…sometimes they’ll win, sometimes they’ll lose. I’ll get upset for a few hours if they do lose. But then I’ll remember what my priorities in life are.
Angelos you will have to explain to Ethan what a “girlfriend” is.
If these Cesc rumours have any truth to them it’s gone beyond ridiculous now.
FFS!!!!
The man has done well in the past…how long does he intend to keep resting on his stale laurels?
WTF is going on.
This man is treating this club as his little toy.
City go to Barca for Messi they tell them where to stick it.
They go to Meelan for Kaka and the same.
Yet Barca/Real every f**kin summer go on and on and we keep entertaining them.
F**k this.
If he doesn’t bring in the necessary players this window we will win f**k all again.
5 years and counting. F**kin PATHETIC!!!!!!
I could break this computer screen right now!!
evenin everyone
or not
Vela looked great today for Mexico. Did not look injured atleast lets hope not, Mexico played that same “defend from the front” style as barca. They run like chickens with their heads cut off when they lose possession in the attacking half. I really think that is what we lacked and I think we should experiment with that as well as not such a high line as we’ve had. Still like the high line defense though.
has anyone heard or read anything about Rosicky’s, Djourou’s, or Vermaelen’s injuries? I was told Vermy started for belgium…
iceman
better not say anything bad about wenger in the presence of aa23 or angel-loss !
youll get his AKB speech !
well ill go on with my WIFE and child & will continue to design houses with my degree of architecture
and watch every game like a passionate fan
who actually gives a FUCK about the team he’s followed for over 30 years !
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AA23 – no need to explain what a girlfriend is..
ive had more than youve had hot dinners !
in fact i dont even think women are your preference aa23 .. now be a good little boy and go watch your village people videos !
Rosicky is injured???
Hey luke. How’re you mate?
I think you’ll find Le Grove is a very lonely place at 4am.
Good news on Vela
I agree, our line could maybe be 3-4 metres further back.
Rosicky is definitely out
Djourou is probably out for Everton
Vermaelen will probably be fit to start at Everton.
some sort of muscle injury. There was gossip he would be out 6 weeks but I cant remember when that was. Right before valencia I think
Ethan I doubt it somehow. I’ve had loads of hot dinners. And I was watching a communards dvd so unlucky mate.
I would love to see Vermy and Gallas start at everton and if Vermys fit I wouldnt see why it would be different. WHy havnt arsenal even announced rosicky injury on their website?
Ethan. I take it all back mate, I didn’t you had a degree of architecture
iceman don’t worry ethan’s just being tetchy again.
I agree, if Wenger doesn’t sign anymore players he’ll have a really tough season against a really solid Chelsea side. But don’t get too stressed about it, it really won’t help.
I missed out the word “Know” because I was absolutelky pissing myself with laughter.
God damn gunners. Is Wenger really going to gamble on denilsong again! YOud think he would have learned his lesson after 08/09, but he is looking to prove me wrong. I just cant see how denilsong are going to hold up our midfield. Espeically with ACN and Song being gone. Damnet gooners, lets buy yaya. He could cover for us at CB too. Wouldnt that be something…
still am. My WIFE is wondering what I’m laughing at.
Vermaelen’s due to make his debut on Saturday.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/vermaelen-set-for-full-debut-against-everton
I think I’ll be laughing for over 30 years!
If anyone is dropping out of the top 4 it is Liverpool.
1. People talked about Gerrard being their key in midfield…to a certain degree. I really thought Alonso held that team together and now Alonso is GONEZO!
2. Aquilani=aquinjured
3. Johnson is not class IMO
atleast not for the price the pool payed.
Bendtner is offering to personally reimburse anyone who bought his jersey with his old number…classy move nikki
“Nik Bendtner promises to personally refund fans who have already bought his shirt”
His grand total so far is £55.00, but his dad let him off.
hahah
We’re all on the same side here guys…
Every Tom, Dick, Harry and their uncle know we need and don’t have a thug in midfield and he is still persisiting with the mediocre.
Not stressing but hoping that he does being in whats needed even if it’s to wait till 31 Aug 11:59pm
Maybe he’s hoping since AA is gonna have his first full season and E9′s banging them in for fun that we’ll go back to scoring freely and not worrying too much about defending? Just a thought.
I apologise for the mean joke against Nik Bendner who I rate as a player.
I put my lack of class down to the fact that I dont have a degree of architecture.
maybe iceman…but if reports are to be believed (they usually shouldn’t) we might be in for Hangalaand. So i’m not sure if he’s too happy with the defence. The problem is I haven’t really watched Hangelaand play so I’m not sure if it’s a good move. Can’t remember the last great defender Wenger signed to be honest. We’ll see.
Anyway, catch you guys when I catch you. Have a great night…what little is left of it.
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Nicky B = No. 52
Adebayor= No. 25
Nicky B has chosen 52 to let you all know that he is the exact opposite of Adebayor in terms of team commitment, working hard on the pitch, etc.
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I Just think No Way Wenger will buy hangeland at a high price of 15million,for a 27 yr old..
he did it with only arshavin,who is special..
A Says:
August 13, 2009 at 02:36
Angelos noone in the world would choose denilson over yaya, yaya is the best dm in the world, and denilson is a decent dm with attributes that don’t suit our style of play in the slightest, what’s that got to do with anything though?!
Wenger said in a years time if we havn’t won anything then it’s a case of completely uprooting everything and starting again, so I doubt he’s saying wait two more years….
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Im just curious which team out of the top four would Denilson’s style of DM suite? What utter rubbish.
And Wenger also said to judge him at the end of the season…how convenient he’s pushed the bar again…and again.
AA23
well grab your crotchless cowboy pants and do what you do best , and i don’t expect you to have a 5 year degree in architecture , but simple sentence construction might be an advantage to you when blogging ..
Roque Santa Cruz is Class…he’s been hacked by injury. To say or think anything less is pretty diabolic. I mean would you say Van P is any less class because he’s injury prone? And has Van P had a 25+ goal season for us yet? I dont think so.
If youre the type of player that ends the Manc’s 12 match clean sheet run coming off fresh from injury speaks volumes about your ability.
AA23 Says:
August 13, 2009 at 04:41
still am. My WIFE is wondering what I’m laughing at.
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well if she has 20 – 20 vision id say the answer is obvious .. its a wonder she isnt laughing looking at your ugly mug either ..
david
saying santa cruz is class this time in the morning you’ll have angelos jump up and down on you telling you wenger knows … and you dont ..
you cant have an opinion on this website any longer ..
well .. not without hearing ARSENE KNOWS at the start of every 1st sentence …
I pray we do a deal for Numbchucks if anything happns to Eddy we are royally screwed.
Its a pity i have to be out on a Wednesday night…im juss getting back really….it wouldve been nice to take on the positive brigade before i sleep….Arsene may know more than me….but apparently he doesnt know when he’s wrong. Because he’s not wrong…he knows.
Im boiling Santa Cruz and Barry went to shitty for 12mill….ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
We didnt have 12 million in the bank for barry? Or Santa Cruz..???
Arsene knows feck all!
Apparently he knows more than Ethan.
yes i can see that wondernuts , thats why the trophy cabinet is overflowing …
Arsene Knows…………how to make money, and that’s fucking all…..
Ha ha wondernuts i see what you did there…brilliant.
Morning ethan….
Think Santa Cruz was 18m
If E9 can stay fit we should be fine…hopefully!!
Him and Arsh will definately be something special!!
Question?
If Arsene knows best, when he fucks off to Madrid, will he cease to know best???
RSC is a quality CF, IF he can stay fit, much like Eduardo.
However, the thing RSC has over Eddie, is that he has good EPL experience, whereas our boy hardly got going before he took a nasty one….
ethan just stop talking about me…MY GOD!
If AW had known Barndoor was gonna hit the road he would have tried for RCS IMO.
It was too late I guess…Hope Chamakh still happens though. You can never count on RvP and E9 considering their injury record.
just seen an interview with hangeland on sky. He denies he’s about to sign for us, says there has been no contact and its all speculation in the papers. Finally he adds that he fully expects to start the season at fulham.
iceman – i’m a big admirer of RSC, i think he’s the complete CF, if he has an injury free season, he will be the reason Man Shitty threaten a top four placing.
But, answer me this, if AW makes only one signing, would you really want this numpty from Bordeaux or would you want another CB or maybe even a CMer?
So, no takers on my question about Arsene knowing best then???
Think about it chaps, why would Wenger be buying another CB? If he bought the Fulham fella, for instance, that would be one more player in the way of Song getting a game at CB. Just like if he baought a proper Central Midfielder to parntner Fab4, it would be another player in the way of Denilson getting a game…..how much longer do we have to suffer these two average players getting in the way of the team’s progress for trophies????
Morning/evening.
So three days before the start of the season,some idiot decides to play a friendly.Not meaningless but the timing is absurd.
Reading various sites,most people are interested in Arsenal first, i.e. club before country,nothing new.
This season we have the usual 38 games in the PL, FA and CC, CL ,more England friendlies and qualifiers,the ANC and then when the season ends the W.C. starts a few weeks later.
So now we have Rosicky and Nasri out until god knows, Djorou injured in training mid week, Ramsey limped off last night, Bedntner apparenty a hamstring problem again last night.Theo wasn’t risked “some sort of thigh strain” fabianski has done his knee in,and the manager says we don’t need any players.
I cannot accept we are even on a par with the start of last seaso,and our opening matches though winable aren’t easy.
i get the feeling,some fans just want any purchase now,regardless of thinking it out.Sounds like desperation or sheer angst.
All players get injured,but we seem to have a record of players with a history of getting injured.I wish I knew the reason/
Wenger should have pulled the lot of them out this week,especially as he hasn’t strengthened the squad.
Nervous times ahead.
Dennis.
I dont think anyone can sack wenger,
if at all wenger leave he will leave on his own,the board is in his pocket becos he makes money to the same board,who never put one penny into the club of there own…
even if board would put there OWN money into the club for transfer,wenger will NOT use it…
For board running AFC is business,they are getting GOOD RETURNS till now becos of wenger,so board is in pocket of wenger..
this kind of wenger bashing going on is becos we are afterall desperate to get a trophy,not for any other reason
If AW knew how to make money then why the fuck did he not buy Cattermole at £6m or Alonso at £15
Cant spell me own lommin name..Its Micky
Hey! You were’nt there in ’89 were Mickey??
Well Micky
Okay we DidNOT get alonso for 15mill
But we Got Arshavin for 15 million right????
Def a CMer
But unfortuantely it’s not in my hands.
I know he’s gonna try and bring Chamakh in as cheap as possible.
I really hope he gets a CM in though…
The bindippers tried to nick Arsh at the last minute.
Wankers!!
DDM: There were five of us who went to every home game, but only three of us with season tickets (North Bank) so decided to stick together and stay around Islington. The allocation at Anfield was 3,000, I think.Two of my mates went, one who reads this site every day.Biggest mistake of my life!
Mickey – Because buying Cattermole would prevent Denilson from getting 40+ games this season, like buying Hangeland will prevent Song from getting games at CB, and that my friend is waht it’s all about, the excuse he needs to hand over the 40m+ transfer profit becuase he doesn’t need it, laugh?, i almost bought a fucking season ticket….
Hi Sabeel. What I meant was if AW only interested in making money, he missed a trick. Hopefully AA not here to turn a profit.
After the season ended I clearly remember him saying we will recruit experience.
Well clock’s ticking!!
If we start the season with Denilsong it WILL be same old same old.
Arsene knows!!
DDM, sadly I think you may be right. I’m now clutching at straws. I will reserve judgement until transfer window closed. Then pray that Bendy does an Adebeyor (rubbish first season), Song does a Flamster, Walcott blosssoms on the right, and we have an injury free season. Pigs sometimes fly, don’t they?
well Micky i got the point
Arsene’s a numpty. As kelsey just went over the list, Rosicky, JD, Theo, Bendtner, Ramsey, Nasri, Fabiniski all have problems now and we haven’t kicked a ball in anything that counts yet. Arsene insinuated we may get injuries over internatonal fecking friendlies in his interview so I conclude, Arsene knows.
Yes…just recently swine flew
Pigs were flying the other night when Denilson didn’t play.
Thanks, Iceman, I need all the help I can get.
Yeah Arsene knows…
DDM, next season Akers knows.