First of all, one of our dumped players called one of his suiters Beyoncé, then the other one talks about loving a woman and how he feels loved, the strange thing is neither of them mention their salaries being doubled. Odd that, them leaving for footballing reasons and those of love, I thought we played the best football, I also thought we had the best manager in world football, I can’t comment on the love bit so I’ll have to give them that.
Anyway enough on those two, Arshavin came out and said that we need to repace Kolo, he said that Vermaelen was good but can’t be expected to step in and replace a pillar in defence, so he’s good, but not that good. What does Arshavin know? The last thing we need is new players.
So now we all know that Arsenal are a selling club, we at least should stop complaining that we don’t buy players, the boss has said buying quality players is not the answer so that’s it then. No argument from me. I get bored with signing great players, I like to see the younger ones trying their best, because they are, well young, one day they’ll get good and then we’ll sell them and add to our vast collection of money.
At least we have stopped being Barcelona’s feeder club, Manchester City hold that title now, I wonder who they want next? I think we’ll have to wait until Christmas to find out though, I’m getting excited already.
I’ve now replaced that exciting feeling of buying a new player with that of selling a player, try it yourself, it really does work, oh and the return of injured players. So when they get injured, I get all warm inside as I know I’ll only have to wait a year before they come back as a new signing. It’s like a signing in progress.
Gael Clichy is out of the season opener as will be Rosicky (no doubt) – still when they do come back it will be like having two new signings, so I can’t wait.
At least we’ll start the season at the top of the table, so make the most of it Grovers.
We have been known here on Le Grove to whine and bitch about the club, it’s direction and the choices the manager makes, well not today, today I am going to get behind the management and agree with their philosophy, after all it has been said that buying payers is not the answer, training hard is.
And yes, before you ask, Ferguson, Ancellotti, Benitez, Capello, Hughes and all the other managers than run or have run big clubs are completely wrong.
I will wait for the season ticket rebate as the club have been given £50 million by Man City and haven’t spent it so I guess they will give it to us to lessen the pain of paying more than anyone else and getting least back. I know that sounded like a bitch, but it wasn’t, they will do it won’t they?
A final point but has anyone else noticed that since David Dein has left, we’ve sold more players than we’ve signed and we’ve won nothing, coincidence?
Have a great day and don’t forget, Arsene knows, he’s got something up his sleeve and we’re going to win the league.
How’s that, positive enough?
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CR hasn’t been good for Madrid at all in preseason. 2 goals from 2 penalties that it.
His play hasn’t been good
If we get Patrick back, and I hope we do, he should come as a player/coach. This would take the pressure off him to perform as a player and allow him to pass on his undoubted ability to our youngsters. How much would Rambo benefit from working alongside the great man??
Guys, how was Flamini doing for Milan yesterday?
Just goes to show that no matter how much money you spend that your defence will still be shit. 2 simple headers like. Madrid are gonna win fuck all if they dont sort that out.
what Stu?? Half of those defenders won’t even start.
Ramos, Albiol, and Garay aren’t playing.
Corners isn’t necessarily the defense. Its the whole team
Even so Pat, the defence should be orgaised regardless of who’s in it. I know thats not the case with everyone (like us) but mostly the defence (which is the whole team when out of possession) should be able to defend a set piece.
Kaka will be Madrid’s best player this season. Say what you want about Messi and CR, I’d still pick Kaka over both of them. He suits our style most.
His intelligence is unrivaled.
Diarra is running around like a headless chicken…without success of course
Yeah Pat, Kaka is amazing. Best player imo.
And Lass, as he is affectionately known, is so shit. I wish everyone was watching this. I mean those who classify him as a defensive midfielder. He is hopeless.
Agree Stu
I feel bad for the likes of Higuain and Negredo. They’re both quality players who won’t get much time.
Also, Madrid is playing a 4-3-3 when Higuain and Negredo are ineffectual on the wings. They’re at their best down the middle
matuidi deal done, passed medical today
press conference monday.
according to who faceman??!
was signing autographs outside highbury house according to a security guard
Damn! Matuidi is a shortie…we need height and strength!
Agreed 100% Pat. Kaka is the man. Better more complete player that has a great attitude, heart, and team spirit. Ronaldo might have more skills but is a greasy cunt from the sleazy part of town and Messi is a dribbling striker with great individual skills to beat a man.
Surely somebody would have had a photo up on the web by now?
he has strength stu, just not height, and yaya is the only player in the world who ticks ALL the boxes.
Though when rumours say stuff like that it’s almost always bollocks unfortunately, if he was signing autographs then people would have known earlier, the press etc too.
Still really hope we sign him
reckon it should be in the sundays
Who won?? I just tuned it too late..
yeah they would david
A. mate you seen Matudi play? I haven’t at all, any previews for us in case faceman is correct.
“I was not in fairness a supporter of his experience with the Under-21s for one simple reason: the youth teams are there to promote the players into the first team,” said Wenger.
“Once they are there, especially at national level, I don’t see why they go back again to the Under-21s.
“The target is not to promote the players from the first team to the second team, they are supposed to be promoted from the second team to the first team.”
Wenger is still bitter about this. Theo gonna get a spanking when he comes back. In all honesty though I think he may be right on this one.
nope lazer, just heard very good things about him from everyone i’ve spoken to, and a few people who’s opinion i trust.
The tenacity of flamini, with more power and speed, and much better on the ball.
Also, people underestimate the balance a left footed player brings to the team, Barry is distinctly average, if he was right footed he’d be no better than a sidwell, but purely because of the balance he gives he’s gotten an england career out of it!
evening grovers!
“I wouldn’t like to commentate on any phone calls I made during the day because, at the moment, I have a hundred phone calls. The only thing I can say is that we are nowhere near to signing anybody at the moment.”
Heeeloooo Mr. Pedro
Evening LAzer… and how are things Arsenal tonight?
Well hope your sources are right A. So what of DenilSong then. I am guessing at this point Song may slot in at CB when Gallas departs and Denilson will remain back up DM, that is if we get Blaise or Viera and they are able to perform. Btw I think JD is quite a disappointment, he seems to have the physical attributes but has awful positioning and understanding of the game it seems.
well Faceman just mentioned we have signed Blaise Matitudi..rumor has it..
That bastard Makelele s championing Chamakh saying he is the best forward in france.
I’d have to agree regarding JD Lazer, also Den being sub DM, though i’m sure he’d play some games. Song sub centre back
Pretty upfront and honest quotes from Wenger on Paddy. Atleast he afforded him that much respect instead of the usual denial.
A, but how strong will Matuidi seem when up against the big fuckers in the prem that he will inevitably come up against.
Stu – have faith, it won’t happen!
i dunno stu, as strong as essien did when he first came up against those big fuckers??
Yeah I think Song has shown enough to warrant a first 11 spot at some point in my book. And I think he could do a job at CB when Gallas departs. I don’t think he is the longterm solution as DM and feel he is the one who Wenger was referring to when he said he has to play center backs in midfield he has so many not Senderos (who is not really a part of the plans at this point imo).
Matuidi.. If true that’s great news but how can it have been kept quiet? It just doesn’t add up!
Yeah not sure on Chamakh myself. If we’re gonna add a striker I think we can do better otherwise go with what we have and strengthn the back and midfield more.
not sure it has been kept quiet… he was spotted looking around the emirates about a fortnight ago
Matuidi!!
But Essien and Matuidi arent the same player.
Essien is over a stone heavier and 2 inches taller(not a massive height difference but its closer to 6ft and 5ft9 seems very small imo.)
LAzer.. Chamakh would be faux pas… why get rid of 2 African nation players and then bring in another.. it makes no sense!
Song in at centre back long term… he can’t even concentrate in midfield… he’d be a nightmare at the back… I hope faceman is right about Matiudi…
No point buying chamakh because we already have Bendtner who is miles better and younger.
Redbearer… i don’t think race had anything to do with the departures…
essien is one inch taller stu, how do you know their weights?!
I remember Song was good at CB a few seasons ago. Then he played there with Silvestre against Fenerbacke and it was one of the worst defensive performances i have ever seen.
But then towards the end of last season he played in defence again and did fairly well. I still wouldnt trust him there tho.
Flamini is 5’8″
and makelele is 3 inches shorter than essien etc etc
so what?
Nah… it’s all about the African Nations Cup Stu and how it disrupts us every time… nothing to do with race that aint my bag!
ESPN. And i checked wiki first….its different heights on ESPN (which i trust more).
Stu, coming from a man who thinks Senderos is a great player, I’m surprised by your Song comments.
Redbearer, it’s to do with Ade and Kolo failing to cut it… not the ACN.
If matuidi was signing autographs then there’d be photos and the press would know. Still I really hope he signs at some point soon
Oop I meant Pedro!!
Guys i was in Bordeaux for one month in March. I went to 3 home games. Got speaking to the locals. believe me this guy will set the premiership alight! He has a little bit of every thing!Movement, height, skill and he also works like a trojan!
Right… hitting the hay… have a good one!
a, i think he may have signed the odd autograph and then chipped into a car with his agent/father/brother etc
I dont know what you mean Pedro. Song at his worst is much worse than Senderos imo. I dont hate either….i just like Song less (a lot less).
Senderos for president!
Redbearer… I wasn’t insinuating you were a racist!
Just that race had nothing to do with their departure… performance did… race was a coincidence…!
i am sorry didnt wenger say he was not close any signings,so when was the medical supposte to happen wenger sstated that he close to any signing ,sorry i have my dought about matuidi signing it would be nice but i will believe when i see confirmed on arsenal web site
Mike, so basically he is a worse version of Bendtner. (older and not better therefore worse
)
leon – wenger also said 3 weeks ago that he did not epect badey to leave for another club
Wenger lies Leon, you should know that by now.
Yes P but imo the player has a prima donna high maintenance tag attached to him… we don’t need a diving twunt with low moral standards like Ade had.. the player is itching to get away from Bordeaux and it echoes comparsions… I just smell a rat.. he is another rat boy!!
Someone called Joel left this little gem:
‘Geoff, its too bad you don’t run a business ‘
Joel, Geoff has run a business that’s turned in substantial profits year on year for the 20 years… I’d leave business acumen out of any argument you’d want to put towards him.
stu essien is 5’10″
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/PlayerProfileDetail/0,,10268~27901,00.html
actually saying he was not close to signing anybody… is a clue in itself
Cool P… imo his performances will be at least 10% of the time spent falling over on the deck!!
Really off now…
’till tomorrow!
Pedro what business does geoff run?? Is he recruiting??!
Agreed Red, i dont think we should be after players with previous attitude problems.
stu
when did wenger ever lie
We don’t do press conferences.
essien is a fair bit heavier though, he is a complete beast! i wouldn’t foresee any issues though with matuidi though, the french league is relatively similar to the prem
Fine Leon, he never lies.
But shitter….right A.
stu wenger doesn’t ever lie, he just says things that can be interpreted in every possible way!
stu
i dont know what you refering that all
yeah of course stu
Players from Ligue 1 usually adapt a lot faster than others as well.
Sagna, Evra(had only a few bad games at the start), Nasri.
Anyone else that came in recently? I can’t think atm
A, he says things to confuse us and others. Like the squad will be kept together etc. We knew it wasnt the truth.
If he isnt telling the truth then i call it a lie.
has everyone on here made a fantasy team?
I think longterm Song can develop at CB. Concentration bit is harsh Pedro. He has come on leaps and bounds and with Vermaelen next to him I could see it work with another year under his belt by then.
Yep we must learn from previous mistakes… Wenger must have known that Ade had attitude issues before he signed him.. those dubious characteristics have never favoured the club… maybe he thought he could control his nature but he was always looking for a better deal.
The only players coming from france are more often than not to us.
Cana is yet to be judjed tho. Obertan too..
Malouda recently…took him a while to settle.
No he doesn’t stu, he says things, and the media want to confuse us by spinning it a certain way.
The main priorities were keeping the players, but the players he wanted to keep, cesc, vp, theo, all the new contracts etc
I think Vermaelens ideal partner would be Gallas…or Senderos
Yep the fantasy things worth a shout A… pretty easy to do and then you can get involved in other leagues too.. so it’s a really random bit of fun… unless you can predict the future!
The media? You mean arse.com where his comments appear untouched my the media. I know the papers make up bullshit and twist a lot of his words etc but if its on arse.com we have to assume that its untouched, right?
though obviously he doesn’t want other clubs and managers to know our plans. If there was a way he could tell just the fans, and noone else would find out, then he’d be 100% truthful about evrything i’m sure!
yeah i agree stu, though malouda isn’t very good, that’s why he didn’t settle! players do take a little while to settle from france, but less so than most leagues imo
I havent made a team. I probably won either…too much effort.
A I like Wenger but he does tell porkies sometimes
Malouda got french player of the year before joining chavski.
no Stu! Arse.com is just a couple of people in their web team doing no different from what websites and the media do, listening to his press conferences and interviews, then creating stories based on the odd sentence here and there!
Not that much effort stu, took ten minutes max!
yeah i know he did, but i never rated him and still don’t. He’s efficient, but very limited actual talent.
A, anyting other than the truth is basically a lie.
Wenger may not lie all the time but he rarely tells the truth.
I dont rate him either but he is a great finisher for a winger imo.
everton supposedly after sendy
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/91885/-20m-City-bid-lands-Lescott/
Not putting it together A. That wouldnt be hard, its the following the team, updating it etc etc
that’s not true stu! Other way round! anything that isn’t a lie is the truth, you can tell the truth without teling the whole truth!
a lie is something that is factually incorrect, not just something that doesn’t tell the whole story….
6 mil Sendy’s worth at least 10… besides he’s not for sale! Bloody Scousers!!
Really wouldn’t want sendy to go to everton, he’s better than lescott anyways imo!
A
Saying we will sign 2 – 3 world class players and not doing it means it was probably a lie in the first place. Like saying all our transfers will be done before pre season starts. I hope that was a lie
stu
he said he would try keep the squad together but not once did promise that each and every player will stay he cant promis that no manager can he only stated that wants to keep thesquad together but if aplyer wants leave these there is nothing you do but try get best deal possible for the player,didnt fergi say he would never sell rinando but its players that have all the power now.thats why wenger never comes out and makes promises that cant keep he alwyas he will try bring players but never never ever ever ever comes out comes out states x amount of players are comming in and unless a player acually is signed contract with the club there not close to signing
gm he said he wanted them done by pre season, not that they will be
And a lot younger A… Sendy has the potential to make it.. but we need a strong DM to support the whole team 1st and Viera might be our only option but he’s a leader so imo it’s a win win situation if he re-signs!
Wenger wont be foriven for signing an utter waste of space in Shitvestre,if he doesnt sign any more players this season.
i don’t think it’s possible to say “we will sign 2 or 3 world class players”, the best you can say is “we will try to…” because you can’t make statements about the ffuture when things are out of your control, and there are very few times when wenger categorically states something like that, he always leaves it open, because things could fail to go as planned, or situations could change, or he could just change him mind!
yo
red if vieira signs he’ll start very few games, denilson or song will still start ahead of him if we’re playing 1 dm, they’ll have to! I’d like us to sign him, but dunno how the fans would react, hope they wouldn’t expect the vieira of old
sendy to everton you say i will drive him there myself
the way i look at the whole vieira thing is he would be good to come on a and help see the game out if we are winning and the game is close
Yeah true A.. but he would be an asset if signed up on a pay by play deal… the aura of the man would hopefully rub off on the younger players.. there’s none left now how actually have won the Prem so in a way he could inspire some of those boys to become men!
song wouls start ahead of him and vieira will come on instead of denilson
BBK… can’t you find it in your heart to give Senderos one last chance.. after all this is last chance saloon time!!
maybe vieira could be our new centre back?!
nope
maybe vieira could be our new goalkeeper
wenger is most cursious manager i have ever come across whenit tranfers most manger state there looking players in such and such position but not wenger never,when wengerstated last season ade was going nowere you ade was staying because wenger never ever makes promisses he cant keep,now when wenger staed that he hoped ade stays ii new there was fear chance he was going,as for toure we all new that either gallas/toure was going,evon you stu cant tell me that your shedding any tears over ade leaving
Aw that’s pretty heartless BBK… Tony Adams was once labelled a donkey and look how he turned out! Experience benefits central defenders and they ultimately bloom around their mid twenties.. good until their early 30′s unless exceptional classy!
Sendy will soon come of age
Actually i am Leon….Tears of joy tho.
Im not upset in the least that ade went. The squad wasnt kept together tho…thats all im pointing out. Im not saying its a bad thing tho.
maybe at another club he will but not at arsenal,
Senderos should be starting for us now imo. If Gallas didnt join or Wenger had the balls to drop Toure then Senderos would have been s regular for us over the last few years and im positive we would have won a trophy or two. BBK dont say a word…coz your wrong!
Hmm he could still yet mature like a fine wine! Depends on the team to support him and his own self-assurance… could be off soon so which ever way the player is young and it would be a shame to see him go because I don’t think we have seen the best of him yet! Time will tell
stu how long have you been a fan of the error prone player?????
after all stu, it is proven that we concede less goals when he’s in the team!
Haha.. will leave you 2 to agree to disagree… otherwise could be a long nite.. laters fellas
it’s also proven when he’s in the team we lose final’s and semi finals
laters r.b
Hello everyone i’m breaking this to you as a reliable source, i had the opportunity to sneak into Arsene office and you know what i found a great great information about… about… hum …. Tomorrow line up everybody…
Almunia
Sagna vermy Gallas clichy Rosicky Fabregas song Arshavin
Eduardo Van persie
i just uncovered Wenger’s top secret that is the top secret.
Exactly A
BBk, is that so? Because i seem to recall him being in the team when we won the FA cup final and not being in the team when we lost the CL final (even tho he helped us get there).
BBK you’d want to get your facts straight
stu
i suspected toure was going since feb but once vern came ,i thought senderos or silvest would go,and i am bid sad he went but the truth is he wanted garanteed first team football,plus gallas,and i thinkit just went stale for him he needed a change not so much the money,i also think senderos is going but i think him and song are good squad players,but silvest as asquad player that scers me
Night Red.
so hang on bbk – we won one final with him playing very well in it, the last piece of silverware we won, and we got the furthest the club has ever gotten in its history in the champions league with him in it!
carling cup final lost liverpool semi lost
if he was that good why didin’t he play in the final then
He didnt play in the final because Wenger has his favourites. Same reason FLamini got dropped for the cunt.
And the CC final. I would point out that Traore ruined our chances in that final by playing Drogshit onside (cant remember the other goal tho).
Its odd how our left backs screwed us in 2 finals. Cole in the CL final and Traore for that goal i just mentioned in the CC final.
stu also in the goals per game, i didn’t do the champs league, and considering that run it would be very impressive in all comps.
In fact BBK, it was on Campbell/Coles side that the CL winner came from. IMO If Senderos and Flamini played that night there would have been a nicer outcome.
Anyone disagree?
He didnt play in the final because Wenger has his favourites. Same reason FLamini got dropped for the cunt.
And the CC final. I would point out that Traore ruined our chances in that final by playing Drogshit onside (cant remember the other goal tho<<<<<<yeah typical
Yes A, that would certainly make the record better imo. That run and he has some amazing games in the CL for us. Milan away and Bayern at home spring to mind.
Whats typcial about that? I suppose you remember everything perfectly?
Oh wait…only the bad stuff…right
Guys what time is the game tomorrow?
And on Sunday as well?
right stu
i am out night everyone
Night leon….
I wouldn’t mind if Senderos stayed, but he always had a slow turning radius and made crucial mistakes that cost the team. Although that is really the nature of the position, GK and CB are the two most unforgiving no doubt and there is no CB who has never made a mistake which has cost the team. Vidic looked very average vs. Torres, Terry is an overrated foul machine so if Senderos stays as a back up and we play him in CC/FA/odd league game that’s fine by me. What puzzling though is he never really made it at Milan, I thought he would find a good home there and make a name for himself. Shame for him.