Seeing Song and Denilson in the middle of the park makes me feel about as comfortable as I do every time I see that advert where Carlton Palmer turns up in that unsuspecting gamblers bath… imagine finding that twat sitting in your bath?
I thought it was a negative line up against a poor team and I didn’t really the benefit bar fitness? Does Wenger do it because he knows we’re going to maul the team we’re about to play, thus convincing us that maybe they are good enough? I mean honestly… couldn’t we play one half with Denilson and Diaby and one half with Song and Arshavin? Wouldn’t that be more interesting tactically? I mean surely we’re not contemplating those two as a partnership in a 4-4-2 next year?
I couldn’t tell you too much about the Hungarian team… when the commentator read the names out it sounded pretty similar to a conversation you’d have with someone who was in an area with a broken reception. So for today, I will mostly refer to the team as Salami FC.
Early on, Mannonne did his best to replicate Almunia’s moment of madness the other day. He dealt poorly with a bad back pass from Rambo but luckily it came to nothing. I quite like Mannone… he is a beast of a keeper, but I can’t imagine him displacing Fabianski as number 2.
It didn’t take us long to break the deadlock… Traore picked the ball out wide, raced past his marker and delivered a pinpoint cross for Thomas Bendtner who glanced it expertly past the keeper. I thought Nik’s half time interview was refreshing. He gets way too much stick in the press for his arrogance, but for me he has manned up over the last year. He works hard, he says the right things and I think he is going to be an immense talent for us this year.
The next goal incidentally was set up by the young Dane. He laid the ball off to a fit Eduardo, who nipped in front of the last defender and buried the ball low and hard across the keeper. A clinical finish from a player who pound for pound shames Huntelaar.
The third goal came from an Eduardo freekick. He hit it low and hard from about 30 yards out… a good strike, but really, the keeper should have done better.
The fourth came after Wilshere cut the ball back to Thomas B just outside the box, Nik looked up and placed the ball low and hard into the bottom right corner. A nice goal from a player high on confidence and perhaps life?
A couple of points that need to be made from the first half. Traore looks like more of a winger than a left back. His positioning was a touch dodgy as he seems more interested in getting forward… however, I think his crossing is superb. Song was pretty poor, his link up play was awful… he passed it to his imaginary friend twice despite having a lot of time on the ball. Yes, I thought the counselling had solved this ‘problem’.
Is this who Song was passing to last night?
If anyone has delusions of a league winning season with him in the middle… you should think again. I thought Rambo and Jack looked good on the flanks. Jack needs to bulk up though… he’d last about ten games in the prem… thugs will try and break him… and he still looks so fragile.
The normal changes were made in the second half and we saw the return of Big Phil to the middle of the park
Jack gave us a glimpse of his talent early on when he broke through Salami’s defence and chipped the ball over the keeper only to be denied by the bar.
What I like about Denilson and Phil is they don’t try and over elaborate. I like Phil in the middle more than Denilson because he was an ok defender and he is a massive lump. Phil just gets the ball out from his feet and plays it to the closest player… no nonsense, no frills and good in the air. I’d love to see how he fared against a good team.
I enjoyed the woman shouting ‘Come on you guuuuners’. If she did that at the Emirates, we’d probably hear her on the tele there as well!
Big Phil dispossessed a Salami player and drove through the middle of the park Yaya fashion, laid the ball off the Robin who couldn’t get a shot out. The ball went back to Phil who woefully crossed… I guess that’s why he keeps it simple! A nice run though.
Sagna put us under the kosh by losing the ball but luckily for him Gallas showed great recovery skills to make the tackle.
One of the Salami boys had a shot from the half way line… Chesney collected with ease. I didn’t need to tell you that, but I wanted to show you I’d thought about the spelling problems of the Polish keepers name (Wojciech Szczesny) and I’d found a solution. We never rest on our laurels here at Le Grove!
Bendtner got munched by the keeper on 66… Robin stepped up and showed off his penalty skills with a rasping top corner penalty. He sure is good at penalties…
Chesney picked up the ball and rolled it out (<- it really is a good nick name).
This is probably a good time to mention Arshavin… I didn’t realise he’d even come on. Annonymous is a word I’d mostly associate with his game today.
Wilshere made a lovely run, passed to Nik who flicked a little pass perfectly into Niks path… Jack showed his lack of maturity by going for the audacious outside of the foot shot when he should have buried it. It’s a tough thing to manage… because you want players to express themselves but not at the expense of an easy goal.
Chezzers showed his metal late on when a Salami player hit a low shot… the keeper parried it, then made a superb reaction save to deny the Hungarians a goal.
Denilson got himself into a mess by not clearing the ball, Big Phil clumsily challenged and gave away a freekick. The ball was fired high towards the top corner, Chesney was equal to it and tipped it over in quite spectacular fashion.
Then shock of the night, Silvestre whipped a superb cross into Robin who headed low and angled past the keeper. Sadly he was unfairly declared offside.
Senderos over hit a pass to Nik… and the young Dane raced onto it at surprising pace. He is deceptively quick… again, not an important moment… but info I feel it would have been a disservice not to let you know.
Salami cheated to get a penalty… Chesney dived early, the forward paused… then clipped it wide. Chesney delivered the wanker sign in amusing fashion… did someone tell him that they have camera’s in Hunagary these days? Arsenal.com in traditional propaganda fashion cut that part out in the replay… well played chaps, Goebells would have been proud!
So to summarize…
A clean sheet, 6 5 goals and some very assured performances.
The commentators kept talking about us playing a 4-3-3… I didn’t see that, I thought we played a traditional 4-4-2. I think we will flick between that and a 4-5-1 next season. It all depends on the strength of our centre midfield. Song certainly isn’t capable of filling that role… Can Denilson make the jump? Well, he doesn’t look different physically and he still lacks mobility. People talk about his pass completion rate… but that’s like talking about how many girlfriends the man who went to school in an all female convent had. If you play in a team who specialise in short passing football, the chances are you will be making more passes than a team who play a more direct style like Liverpool.
Nik Bendtner looked very good today, his passing was good, his finishing clinical and his work rate was much improved. Eduardo did what he always seems to do… score goals. His only weakness is his team play. I don’t think he gets involved as much as previous greats of the club have done… but Bilic always champs his team play for the national team… so I’ll give him time! I hope all thoughts of signing Huntelaar have passed people by… I’ve watched him quite a few times and I can tell you first hand… he will drive you crazy… he isn’t fast at all, he isn’t a team player and I don’t think he is better than what we already have.
Finally, before we go (I too have an imaginary friend)… I just want to run an idea past you all. Adebayor is really starting to irritate me in his new found role as spokesman for Man City and the Association of World class footballers. We need a plan for him when he comes over to the Emirates, and one of my good friends gave me an idea today. Why boo him? Why don’t we all laugh at him every time he gets the ball? How humiliating would that be! Everybody opening up a 60,000 people can of laughter every time he spoons his first touch 14 yards in front of him!
Have a think about it… because he’ll enjoy the booing, it would seem like we cared about his departure… he needs to know that I threw a street party when he left!
Right, have a rip roaring day and remember to say happy Birthday to Geoff… not as some sort of practical joke… but because it’s his birthday!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
It’s been a pleasure reading your blogs over the last year, may there be many more to come!
I hope I’ll be joined in raising a virtual Peroni to your 35th birthday! I’m also pleased to announce that after a year of solid contribution… the blog equivalent of a 50 game season… Le Grove Corp is pleased to announce that we’ve offered Geoff a one year extension to his deal. Geoff has accepted his new contract on pay as you blog terms and is confident he can take his blogging to the next level this coming season!
Cheers!
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I googled ‘Cartman 1st’ and this link was the top result:
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Podium Bakrichod !
who is thomas bendtner
taig, i’m like the drug addict without his crack!
where’s dan norris?
Long post…
i like rusty spoons hahaha
Happy Birthday Geoff!!!
What about toure leaving????
cartman i left my itouch at home so im having to use my phone. My name is different on all three. My laptop is thomas dan bendtner, my itouch is dan norris and my phone is dan
Geoff – 35! Dear oh dear! How bad is it?
and here’s ur gift:
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/05/22/trophy_lift_gallery__550x364.jpg
why didnt you tell us it was your birthday geoff ??
anyway, HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND BEST WISHES….
Dan – Rusty spoons! ha ha! Comedy gold!
dont talk about itouch!!! i lost my iphone 2 days after i got it!
THIERRY interview in the sun regarding the yids
is class
guy is a legend
Seriously though, happy birthday Geoff!
Morning all, and to be pedantic, Salami FC were Hungarian, not Austrian. Also, to be especially curmudgeonly, I prefer the Zombies FC as a nick name too. Bah…humbug !
nice 1
Have a good one mate!!
Happy Birthday Geoff!!!
And sorry, Geoffers. All the best on your birthday – you are a prince amongst men.
happy birthday Geoff!!
If we sell toure to man city i’ll know arsenal is the weakest big team in the world when it comes to transfer activity!! I mean why cant we just stand our ground and tell teams to fuck off we aint selling….this is starting to look shamefull…wats going on?
Happy Birthday !!
‘appy burfday Mr Geoff.
How about a new signing to go along with the celebrations??
Happy birthday geoff
Happy Birthday Geoff….
Wenger should not sell Kolo to Man City!!!
I thought Yaya Toure said last week that Kolo would never play for Man City!!
Is it because of the MONEY or being lured by ADEBAYOR DOLLAR PHEROMONES.
the laughter idea is absolutely brilliant.. if you can pull it off, it would be hilarious watching it on TV…
On the subject of how to receive Adebarndoor on his return (assuming he doesn’t give himself a strategic hamstring pull) I think laughter might be hard to pull off as a sustained repsonse – perhaps we could try a slow hand clap ? Or even a normal clap as that might confuse him and get him all flummoxed.
Sorry Chary… I said that to my brother and he said they were austrian…
Bring on the red and white kit plz , sick of the blue one’s promotions already
Happy Birthday Geoff. What was it like going to school with jesus?
Why do I keep seeing that we scored 6 goals! It was 5 right? Edu x 2, Nikki x2 and and RvP pen??
Happy Birthday Geoff….
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/arsenal/5919816/Arsenal-shareholder-Alisher-Usmanov-may-repropose-rights-issue.html
Hi Guys,
Happy b’day Geoff.
Did anyone catch Wenger’s interview after the game?
Was he quizzed on players coming in and out?
wher’s ze bear???
salad fingers is class
Happy Birthday Geoff, enjoy mate.
TAIG v persie had one disqualified for offside
TAIG, because the score went up to 6 for a bit when RvP scored his second.
So Toure has been offered 120k a week. I think I know the reason Toure will go to Man City. clichy mate, you were right the first time.
Arsenal Kenya
Don’t think of what Yaya said or for matter anyone else..
Money talks these days…
I hate man shitty
Morning all.
Thought Nikki B was class yesterday. He looks fired up.
This week – Touré to leave, Hangeland (cash + Senderos) and Bassong to come in.
hey about updating the ‘le rosick list?’
Anderlecht has to play this evening to qualify for the Champions league.
Two days ago, their Captain Jelle Van Damme, who still has a contract for 2 years with the club, announced that he will not play because he made a deal with a Premier league club that also plays in the champions league!! And, if he were to play with Anderlecht in this qualifier he couldn’t play CL football for the English team anymore this season.
Anderlecht was not amused because they were not contacted in any way about a possible deal involving their captain. Even now they still have not heard anything from any club, manager or agent, all they have is their captain saying he has agreed terms with an English club playing in the CL this season.
This then obviously narrows it down to Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal.
According to my contact, City is about to announce the signing of Touré and he says that this guy is a very good Belgium defender and a ready made replacement.
Anderlecht meanwhile has stated it will wait 24 hours before taking the whole mess to the UEFA, if by that time there is no clarity in what is going on.
Clough has decided not to take Randall on loan. I don’t blame him although he might have been at least useful squad player for them.
chipo,
i dont rate bassong and i hope he stays at newcastle!
Dan – So people are just counting that as a goal? Fair enough.
The thing is unless we’re offering toure a new contract then weve gotta sell him for 15m. If not fans will be screaming at wenger next season when he goes for free like flamini. just gotta take the money and run
Happy Birthday Geoff. It was nice to here that ade has flourished after his move, the other night on sky Sports the newsreader uttered the famous line “Ade has just missed a sitter” instead of jumping out of my chair and screaming abuse at the television I just sat there and pissed myself with laughter safe in the knowledge that he will never pull on a gooner’s shirt again, of course there was the normal txt mesages flying around to a few Man City fans but the only responce I got was “FUCK OFF” no sense of humour them manc’s.
The real pre-seson starts this weekend so good luck boys, unfortunatly I can’t make it in person but I will glued to the T.V.
Let’s hope there are some more signings to come Mr Wenger and please if there are can they be old enough to leave the creche under there own steam lol.
Best of luck for the season ahead.
Chipo:i’ll judge nikki when we play man u,chelsea,barcelona and other epl clubs not when we play salami fc….but you are right he does look fired up
happy b’day geoff
Bassong + Hangeland?
I say we need to make Micah Richards part of the Toure deal. Then we can sell Eboue and have Richards as our back up/starting RB or CB!! Surely that’s logical?
SOOOOOO SLOOOOOOW!
jelle van damme.. is he related to jean claude van damme
arsenalised, when nik b came on against chelsea and man u at the end of last season he was our best player, and one of the only players who looked like caring. he also scored against chelsea. by the way it was definately 4-3-3 yesterday.
anyone called van Damme would get into my team for having an awesome name! Lets get Danny Invincible in from Kilmarnock!!
Morning all and thanks! A good and well balanced post.
Arsenal.com are so shite they had a match report on saying 6-0. Do they not even watch their own matches!? It was broadcast exclusively by their website how can they get it so wrong?!
there is this dutch guy in the eredivise called
if that isnt a perfect name for an arsenal footballer, i don’t know what is.
van der gun
http://www.arsenal.com/match/report/0809/gallery/first-team/szombathelyi-h.-0-5-arsenal
If we can get all ‘Matrix’ on the EPL like photo 11 then we are destined for glory!
And Arshavin just can’t keep that tongue of his in his mouth can he! ha ha!
Rohan – Sign him up too!
Rohan – and a few of these too:
http://www.midfielddynamo.com/players/players_bestnames.htm
Alan:all nikki needs is consistency!!he has all the other attributes needed to be a top striker….when nikki gets his confidence and believe in his abillity then he will be better than Ade….
Surely Steve Death needs to be signed as our DM! He’s a goalkeeper but fuck it, surely it does exactly what it says on the tin?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jelle_Van_Damme
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jelle-Van-Damme/29526302607
Happy birthday Geoff. And Wenger you better be trying to seal some deals underwater or be bargaining for one hell of a magic wand!
Argelico Fucks:
Brazilian who carved out a half-decent career for himself as a central defender, but who is always going to be best remembered as the source of one of football’s greatest football headlines: “Fucks off to Benfica”, Eurosport’s famous description of his transfer from Palmeiras to Benfica. To see the headline:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/09/11/eurosport_com_scores_headline_profanity/
Cartman I don’t rate Bassong either, but remember that we have only seen him play for the worst Newcastle team in history!
arsenalised: fair enough mate, he needs to step up in the big games i agree.
It just seems to me that the arrogance has been replaced by a raging fire and a steely determination! I think now Ade has left he will thrive. They obviously didn’t get on. (Maybe part of the reason AW sold Ade was because he saw it was hampering Nikki Bs development and saw him as a far better player than Ade – which he is.)
hahaha taig.. gold
TAIG it was stupid how even arse.com were counting the goal even though it got disqualified
Chipo – I think Bassong is better than he showed last year! How good can you be under 5 different and all shit managers in one season!
Dan – Yeah I didn’t really get that either! Their web team must be fucking wank with all of their late posts and misinformation!
Ooh Jelly VD is 6’4… finally!
Happy Birthday you old Dirthole
that is very interesting stuff DDM, if it is us then there is a danger we might be punished by UEFA. But if it is us, at least it shows we are getting our hands dirty in the transfer market
taig – that’s what i meant!
please please guys just laugh at ade barn door!! It would be so funny watching it on tv!! Happy birthday geoff
Great post, nice read.
Happy Bday Geoff.
Pedro, they are Hungarian 100%.
Happy Birthday Geoff 35 eh, i remember those sunwashed glorious days.
DDM hope you are right mate then Kolo can go with all our blessings.
Pedro/Dublin – It is a fantastic idea! We just need a good way of spreading the word! Please, if anyone writes on other blogs, let them know about this idea! Fucking hope he doesn’t score against us though!
DDM… how reliable is your guy??
happy birthday geoff you old bugger!
I don’t think it is us. Would we sign 2 Belgium CB’s in one go? Nothing wrong with that, I would just imagine he’d pick one or the other. Also its not like us to get our hands dirty and get caught. Liverpool and Chelsea however might fit the bill a little better?
Morning all…
happy birthday GEOFF!!
sorry i have not changed my mind on song i think wenger will stick with song and delinson particualy song i will condede delinson cannot play dm on his own but both are good squad players yes song had bad game but aa played evon wors.i dont think there is any dought senderos is on his way and has no future in cd,i do think however wenger is looking hard dm play but will have find long replacements for gallas as for toure i think is gone
RSCA: “Jelle Van Damme is not for sale”
Through the official website Anderlecht lets us know they heard about Jelle Van Damme’s declarations. In Het Laatste Nieuws they emphasise the player isn’t for sale.
“They also say Jelle still has a contract of two year. And, up until now, the club hasn’t received an official offer for the player. RSC Anderlecht regrets the way this one clubs worked. This is a violation of the ethical rules and is also a violation of the official FIFA rules.”
“RSC Anderlecht remembers the player formally and officially that he has to respect his contract and that the club has the right to do what ever is needed if the player decides to breaks his contract.”
Taig:i bet if he does he will rub it in with a stupid celebration to mock the fans who”drove him away”
Chipo – I’ve been reliably informed that this fella (who is currently the Anderlecht skipper) is quite an aggressive character too….
Have a great birthday Geoff, let us buy someone today!
to be fair if theres a club in the top 4 behaving like cunts chances are its the chavs
Genius article.
Chesney is a fanny-tastic nickname, thought the game was awesome. It was great to see Thomas and Eduardo get on the score sheet and frankly quite funny to see BIG Phil deployed in the holding role.
I also enjoy the laughing idea with Adebyebye, I never booed, always stood by him but its frankly appalling behaviour by the togolese trouble maker and I think humiliation is a fair swipe. After all, Ive had to endure hours in the pub being humiliated every time he misses a sitter from 3 yards.
Big happy birthday too! I’ve been a silent reader of le grove for about a year now so I thought it’d be time to pipe up and say nice work!
Inside – Whoever it might be from the EPL is gonna get it hard from EUFA you can be sure of that, but it’s an interesting story, and it’ll be interesting to see if the fella plays tonight!!
TAIG – surely you know by now Wenger does not look at the passport he looks at the player! If there were 8 Welshmen all perfect for Arsenal he would sign them!
I don’t think a couple of Belgians is anything out of the ordinary.
And speaking of Belgium, what has happened to Beveren? Have we severed ties with them? We haven’t heard about anyone coming out of there since Pleboue
Spot on!
http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/24028/Arsenal_legend_No_one_sad_to_see_back_of_Adebayor__.aspx
HAPPY BIRTHDAY GEOFF!
I’m glad some of you are liking the laughing idea… I think we’d be the first team in the country to do something like that… imagine the coverage it would get!
Ultimate humiliation for Ade!
Chipo – Like I said, it would be no problem. It just all sounds a bit strange to me. Not sure about Beveren. I know they were our feeder club but wasn’t there some sort of problem with that deal? Hang on, found this:
Arsenal FC controversy
Between 2001 and 2006 the club had a co-operation agreement with Arsenal Football Club. Several players were loaned between the teams and friendlies played. The agreement expired on 1 July 2006.
Subsequent to an investigation by BBC Television’s Newsnight FIFA requested the English Football Association investigate the relationship between the two clubs.
In 2001 Belgian police concluded that a loan of over €1.5 million had been made by Arsenal F.C. to a company Goal which helped secure Beveren’s financial position. Newsnight have alleged this may breach club ownership rules under FIFA regulations. The accusation is refuted by Arsenal who state that the payment was an interest free loan and has no effect on the administration of the club.[1] The FA and FIFA cleared both clubs of any wrongdoing.[2]
Several players have been loaned between the two clubs or had trials. However only Emmanuel Eboué and Igors Stepanovs completed permanent moves to the clubs in this time period, the former to Arsenal and the latter to Beveren.
where is geoff by the way?
Pedro – The ultimate humiliation or giving him the chance to wipe the smiles off 60,000 faces in one goofy sweep of his leg? Dangerous game, but a risk worth taking I think!
hey geoff, happy birthday!
keep it up
If Hagerland is 28 years old I can’t see AW spending a penny on him.
Didn’t Toure come from Beveren?
Oh no, think they may have alerted us about him.
did rosicky played last night ?
morning all
Claims of racism
Van Damme was sued by Standard Liege center back Oguchi Onyewu for allegedly calling Onyewu a “dirty ape” during the Belgian league play-off match between Anderlecht and Standard Liege.[1] Onyewu is an American of Nigerian ancestry.
How abt Thomas Verm playing at dm?
abnet – no
How good was Phil at DM
I agree the idea of laughing at Ade would be brilliant!!..
Unless he scores
“dirty ape”
he must have some balls then cos onyewu is a beast
ardent – I don’t imagine he would do too well at Arsenal if that is to be believed! He does look like a bit of a hill billy!
Is he the right man there?
I AM THOMAS BENDTNER!
Turns out I’m Niklas’ dad & agent.
HAPPY birthday Geoff you old sod
did eddie come throgh with no injury?? and nikki b is top gun no strikers will be brought in on the back of that…..rw and cbs it is then
I liked the bit about Song Pedro!
Imagine those two in a 4-4-2 against someone good, like Sunderland, I don’t even want to think about it!
Geoff on my birthday i fixed it for us to sell ade that day what you doing for the arsenal with your birthday wish???
DDM how did your gutter meeting go???
based on the 3 pre-season games we have played I can conclude that Wormulum is slow and short
Happy Birthday Geoff.
Great laugh… i mean post Pedro! Made me chuickle a couple of times. I’m likeing the laugh at Ade idea
Swapping Kolo for Richards, buying Villa, YaYa and Dzeko, as well as Zapata and Sakho, you obviously don’t love Arsenal as much Nick!
On a side note i thought ramsey was disappointing last night. His decisin making at times is really really poor
Happy Birthday Geoff, remember you’re only as old as the woman you feel! (old one but a good one)
My team of current players (Nasri injured and Kolo gone):
Almunia
Sagna – Vermaelen – Gallas – Clichy
Ramsey
Rosicky – Fabregas – Arshavin
RvP – Eduardo
I’m at work so can’t get odds from betting sites, but could someone find out the longest odds on us to win the league this year?
I’m thinking about smashing a cheeky score on before we sign our 2 beasts!
Chipo, good advice mate! Goonerjay, the more he plays the better he’ll become, he’s still better than the two clowns.
good idea pedro…
but i’m scared one header and we will all look stupid…
Chipo – Biggest price is 10/1 with extrabet. Average price is more like 9/1.
i dont think much dought that delinson will be start dm he is a squad player and in y mind that all he will ever be,i feel song would played alot better with cesc,also ramsey would do well dm position,its pretty clear toure will not commit his long term futre to the club so i sell him,senderos is not suited the prem he did well because it was lesser team but going against the prem team he found wanting,
Chipo – I’d look at Paddy Power for a bet with Arsenal as they are our official betting partner and are 2nd biggest price on us at 9/1. You would think they would have to be one of the shortest if they are our sponsor! Its like they are saying we dont have a chance! ha ha!
I think you’ll find we deploy someone on Ade that will give him the full treatment.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_5457130,00.html
Lol just got this email from a Spud friend of mine:
The negativity is rising…….Just like Cashley thinks, maybe it will be City who finish 4th……..
At least when we play each other, neither side will have any defenders so should be another 4-4 goal fest !
Spurs XI vs Liverpool:
Gomes
Hutton Chimbonda Corluka Assou Ekotto
Lennon Palacios Jenas Modric
Crouch Defoe
Subs:
Cudicini, Keane, Pav, Huddlestone, Bale, Bostock, O’hara.
That Top 6 is better than yours, no questions……….
(hahahaha what an idiot)
I can’t understand why anyone rates Song, he committed foul after foul last night and his passing was woeful.
Senderos was better than Song at the DM position
TAIG, is ramsey good enough for DM??
i can just imagine now Ade’s disgusting face running infront of our fans, laughing his ugly head off after he’s scored at the emirates, his laughing face sprawled on the back pages the next day.
Although, I still think we should do it, if we win (which is most likely) then it’ll be well worth it.
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/article.html?Fulham_ready_to_battle_Arsenal_for_Hangeland&in_article_id=710498&in_page_id=43
what about city’s chances on making the top 4 , taig ??
Geoff – Beyond belief right! He is so slow in the head that he is 2 seconds behind every piece of play which means he either fouls them or they just pass him by! Remember when Walcott said that Song is the least intelligent player on Soccer AM’s ‘Team Mates’!!
let us buy hazard and moussa dembele
Zak – Not sure but he loves a tackle, id far better at playing football than Denilson and Song put together. he should at least be given the same chances that those 2 got last year!
IS he strong enough TAIG?
happy bday geoff, WE NEED TO FIND A SOLUTION TO OUR DM PROBLEM why does everyone see it but arsene????????????????????????????????
Any thoughts on our ‘new’ formation?
Rohan – Odds? City are the biggest price with us @ 2/1. They are the closest a team has ever come to having shorter odds than us to win the league: Our best price is the same as City’s shortest price! Not good news that!
Zak – I cant imagine he is any weaker than Denilson!
It looks like Wenger has found the solution:
Senderos!
But taig will he step up this year? can we go another year without a trophy
I dont know how so many people can judge players based on 45 minutes of pre season football! You’d rather judge them on that than 30 games from last season.
Its all about fitness. If you thought song played well last season then you cant alter your judgement of his based on yesterday – thats ridiculous.
By that rule, Arsahvin would never get in the Arsenal team again!
Happy Birthday G-ster! A new signing or 2 would be welcomed… Come on Arsenal
eek, taig.. not good that
HAPPYYYYYYYYYYYYYY BIRTHDAYYYYYYYYYY GEOFF,
glad to know you got your contract extended, you write great posts especially when you are angry…you go on to call lots of people ‘muppet’
Morning Grovers
Aussie – Don’t get me wrong. I definitely want a new and proven DM to be bought! But if Wenger persists with what he already has, Ramsey would be my choice!
Rohan – No its not. The people that make these odds know what they are talking about!
gazzap – Song was as shit yesterday as he was last year. Nothing has changed.
hey guys just been on other blogs trying to spread the word about laughing at ade!! Hope this works!! Mind u this is the best gunner blog!! Ha
Good work DublinGunner!
goef
thats your opinion however inmy opinion song last season was one of the best players last season,has improved alot and i feel will get better not top dm player most likely better in cd but a squad player and no dought has work his passing alot more,but lest be honset as aa any better dont yesteaday i dont think so,song had bad game,ialso feel both him and rambo are better dm than delinson,but it might be the case wenger dm player song can play in better position cd
Hangelandd is an arsenal player!!!!!!!!
Gday all,
Happy birthday Geoff, ive sent you in a gift via the gallery email link! You can post it up if you want?
cheers mate
HAPPY BIRTHDAY GEOFF !!!
hope youre having a smashing day !
Thx for the post Pedro..
and mornin All …
tom
Lets play someone is DM that will be there all year unless they get injured. So not Song who will be off to the ACN at a crucial time. Either give Denilson or Ramsey the nod or buy someone new!
Just had a call from a reliable source, kolo toure apparenly said his goodbyes this morning at breakfast and has left austria on a flight to manchester.
Hoping wenger is going to bring some top quality in with all this extra dosh he has now!!!
ATom – Uber reliable fella….
Reports in Spain.. AW will bid for Huntelaar today…
They say take spanish press with a pinch of salt..
I say take it with a pinch of salt , a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila and enjoy the rumour…
cheers pedro! I’d love to get over for that game if not I’ll be rite behind u guys in my local!! So since watching the game I’m just wondering do we need hunterlaar?? I’m a big fan off his but do we actually need him??
ardent –
Dutchman – Do you reside in the Netherlands?
Laughter idea pure genius Pedro – that will wind him right up the Togonian twat!
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ive noticed that many of you Grovers have Hangeland down as the slowest CD in history…and that proves that one fella’s impression often are taken as a fact…
since im Norwegian and have followed Hangeland quite a bit,i have to say…..A..listen…he really isnt that slow..not the fastest CD ever but still..to claim that he’s like a turtle is stretching it…
tom
if eddie can stay fit, ( i don’t see any reason why not, he seems to ahve gotten over all his problems ) then no, we don’t really need huntelaar… a right winger, a DM and a CB are far bigger priorities..
i expect the goals to be spread out next season with rosicky and arshavin chipping in from midfield… goalscoring is not going to be a problem, it is defending that is our achilles heel
i’m astounded you wrote what you did about the “come on you Guuunners” woman. Have you seriously never heard her before ?
Maria the schoolteacher is famous among genuine arsenal fans. She’s been going for the best part of 50 odd years, goes to every game home and away and the reserves too. And obviously to pre-season too.
She’s on club level at the emirates – unbelievable you’ve not heard before now.
What if wenger thinks that he can win the title with vermealen/gallas??? And he let toure go because of vermealen??? he MUST buy another defender!!!
Yes, tonyadams. Why not ardentgooner, we have enough money.
rohan, why do u say right winger?? I think were cool on that side with Thomas R and Theo??
Happy birthday Geoff. Have a good one.
block103 -I hear her all the time! but have never actually seen her.
Tom – Morning me old fruit! And don’t you think Hangeland’s interception rate last year is a huge indication of how well he can read the game, something our current crop of defenders seem unable to do!? People say stat’s don’t tell the whole story but in this case they do. An interception is an interception. Its all down to the player. Its not like when people slate Denilson’s passing stats because they are ineffective passes.
Happy birthday Geoff!
I think Verma had a good game yesterday, Eduardo and Nik were great too. I am just eager for the Emirates Cup and see how we manage against stronger opposition.
Morning all, just posted a link to the 5-0! By the way skip the first 40 seconds, it’s just a read screen with some random shots stats on it.
Wotcha Nick – I’m not sure yet, he’s gonna send me an email with two quotes, based on two types of replacement materials. But, there might be a fair bit o’ work involved, so i’m bracing myself!!!!
Do you think we will replace toure??? If not I really don’t trust arsene any more.
Bozin, wormulum was being beaten for pace by their attackers I’m hoping its down to his fitness otherwise it is worrying.
neither rosicky ( who i believe is more suited to the left ) nor walcott ( who isn’t realy a winger ) are true wingers.. i would love to see someone who can take on his man and beat him while dominating the flank… as of now, we don’t really have a true RW and i would love to see eden hazar.
of course, it isnt as much of a priority as a DM or a CB is…
Dublin – Theo is a striker, not a winger. Rosicky is a left winger, not a right winger. And Eboue is a full back. We don’t have single right wing player in our team which is farcical if you ask me! All Walcott can do is skin a full back, head to the corner flag and put in a very average cross. His pace needs to be utilised where it is most effective….on the heels of slow centre backs!
Dutchman – Cool. I have family in Amsterdam. Always nice to pay them a little visit…..and maybe take in some of the culture too!
Rohan – spot on!
If we don’t replace Kolo we have Gallas Vermaelen Djourou Silvestre Senderos. that is laughable. Almost worse than Spurs!
I live where the PSV stadium is
taig, maybe he intercepted his own player’s passes.. rather ineffective that
Exactly chipo, we can’t trust to that defence. We MUST buy hangeland!! But i think that will happen.
Are we a football club or a property developer? And shouldn’t they sort out the mess that is Highbury square before they move on with this project??
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/islington-council-agrees-queensland-rd-plans
I’m not so tall, I know. So you have to be good at reading the game.
“But I think my heading game is good. I have a good jump and that’s positive if you are a centre-back. On the field its very important to be smart and thinking all the time.
I’m not so tall, I know. So you have to be good at reading the game.
“But I think my heading game is good. I have a good jump and that’s positive if you are a centre-back. On the field its very important to be smart and thinking all the time.
The Verminator
Dutchman – My family live right by the Amsterdam ArenA!
Taig..mornin mate..:)
i agree…and he’s strong in the box..and that is something we need..he is an excellent tackler…he’s passing is good..and he is a very good team player..he is a proven international..and even there his pace hasnt been to bad..ill think he is way ahead of Djourou/Silvestre/Senderos/Vermaelen…its almost funny how someone even can compare him to thoose very poor defenders…
tom
i am sorry i like delonson but i cant ever see him playing dm on his own,i feel lnikki b will hve a very big season as will edwardo,i dont think we will see any signings before the emirates cup
Dutchman – I remember when my uncle took me to and Ajax v PSV game at Ajax’s old ground….barb wire, wire meshing, spinning spikes! Fuck me, I didn’t know if I was gonna make it out alive or not!
its painfully quiet on the DM front, im starting to really think wenger thinks we’ve got enough there.
Tom – Well you don’t need to convince me, that’s for sure!
The comments on the toure deal on goal.com are very negative. They all say wenger won’t win anything with arsenal and that arsene is completely lost it, that they are fall out the top 4.And I can agree if we buy nithing with that 45million!!!!!!!!!! WENGER YOU MAKE US WEAKER AND CITY STRONGER!!! STUPID GUY!!!
Check out the 10.41 comment!
Happy birthday Geoff.
Kolo – I wish you all the luck in the world! Thanks for the invincible era and all of your efforts! You will always be one of my favourite free kick takers and I wish you well….apart from when you play us! Cheers Mr.T!
kolo is a legend.. no doubt about that
tonyadams, Great stadium the amsterdam arena,isn’t it??? But toure is gone for sure what about that, tonyadams???? Has wenger lost it or has he got a deal with hangeland??? If not buy a defender we are the shit.
Happy b’day Geoff
I no theo is, but tell that to AW, I reckon we need a cb, and dm, I’d be happy if we just covered that, I can’t see AW buying 3 players, I no the team we were playing last night were muck!! But do ya think we could win anything if we get 2 players in??
Dutchman – its a great deal if we buy someone like Hangeland. If we don’t then its a fucking terrible deal! And if we bring in Hangeland we need to send Senderos the other way to Fulham and bin Silvestre too. Gallas, Vermaelen, Hangeland, Djourou and Song as back up are all the CB’s we need!
The transfermarket is for us as arsenal supporters really shit. Every time wenger says things who not come out and sell our best players. We lost two good players to our big rival for next season. And we are weaker ,if wenger thinks that he can win things with this defence(without toure) then thats is worst fault ever(apart from the DM thing). Kolo is a legend and he said that he want to sign a new contract but wenger is so facking stupid. I was a big fan of Kolo and he was great, I hope he scores against us and wenger thinks: shit, why I am so stupid that i am sold him.
Dutchman he won’t, he’ll blame the fans or his mum or someone, it’s never his fault.
Farcical deals going on
Ibra = 46+ Etoo + Hleb (loan)
This one seems fair
Pirlo = 9m + Pizarro + Mancienne (loan)
I really hope that
Huntelaar + M.Diarra = Ade cash (25) + Eboue/Senderos Cash (7)
and Hageland = Toure’s cash ( 15)
All sorted
But guys listen, what grimandi says about the full squad, it could be true. We don’t buy a DM because of diaby,denilson and song. We must sold someone but no one is interesting
And for toure leaves,it could be because we will sign hangeland, The huntelaar rumour could be true because of ade leaves and the money could spend on a striker.
Dutchman – I do think we had easily seen the best of Kolo. He became more and more headless last year. Plus he doesn’t like our best defender (Gallas), contract is nearly up, will be off to the ACN and we’ll never receive another offer like that for him again!
Geoff – I posted this, this morning, on the end of yesterday’s post –
dennisdamenace Says:
July 28, 2009 at 08:38
Kolo’s gone, announcement later today….
DDM – I could have posted that. Its a shoe in!
tonyadams, Do you think arsenal will sign a replacement???
hahaha look at rosicky and adebayor !!!
Wenger could not survive a failed season after not buying anyone! He would have to resign and I would hope every Arsenal fan would urge the board to make that happen!
nice one rohan
Nothing’s a shoe-in at our shoddy club mate!
Dutchman – I think so. But at the same time I really wouldn’t be surprised if we didn’t.
could this transfer window be just as bad as last year?!! Guys I’m worried!!
DDM – yeah thats fair!
GEOFF I never had as many candles there for less wishes
….. and to be fair think you could squeeze a few more out if you wanted 
I think hangeland come in next week. It can’t be that wenger risk another season without buy and out of the top four. He will buy huntelaar and hangeland.
dutchman
sorry the fact toure has not been that good for while now,once gallas got inured the the amount gaols conceded doubled that mainly due both silvest/toure/dj but both tourenad silvest experiened and you would expect alot better,the fact toure may more populer than gallas but gallas is quite abit better than him,its a shame because when playing with sole cambell he was expeptional but just cat see be will ing be squad player but he wont get past gallas
You lot should all consider yourself lucky that unlike me, you don’t have to sit next to a guy that constantly refers to Le Boss as ‘Sir Arsene Wenger’! I used to think he just did it to wind me up but now I’m not so sure!
yes dennis
u got it right with adebayor..and now u r saying abt toure..
looks like i have believe u…
but i wonder if we should go for a 23-24yr old defender rather than a 28yr hangeland with so much cash from toures sale…..
If we are selling Kolo then we need to buy a replacement along with the DM that we have needed since Flam and Gilberto left. Cattermole i wasn’t happy with at first but the more you think about it the more it could work. Wenger needs to do something because at the moment this is the second season where we have been pissed off with us letting people go and not getting the adequate replacement in!
The Ade & Kolo deals are good deals, but ONLY if the money is reinvested back into the first team….
But, once again we’ll end up having to buy replacements rather than additions….
Can’t work out why we can sell Kolo and yet we hold onto rubbish like Silvestre….
with 15-16 million from toures sale,i would rather have a 23-24 yrd old experienced defender than a 28yr old like hangeland who will not have a re-sale value
taig, no one wants silvestre…
DDM i agree there. It’s like he is selling the players he can get money for, just for the sake of getting money. i would rather have kept hold ot Toure and sold Senderos. Also i am sure that we could do a deal with a french club for Sakho involving Silvestre going the other way, he would probably be happy with that aswell!
Goodbye Kolo, I hope you will not be missed.
Clacko – I was just doing some checking up on Cattermole. 11 yellows and 2 reds means at least 4 games banned, no doubt more! But hey, that’s kinda what we’re missing isn’t it! That bite!
Rohan – Some shit team would have him for £1m or something. We only paid £750k and that wasn’t a transfer fee I don’t think. It was more like compensation.
rohan I’ll take him for my astro league team, all he has to do is pay 5euros per game, and I’ll let him sleep out in my mam’s sheaf, if he gets Hungary I’ll feed him fish heads!
i’d pay someone to take silvestre off my hands.
Clacko – I reckon he is giving himself the biggest fucking bonus possible before he fucks off to Madrid next year! Imagine how big his bonus will be when Arsenal release their end of year profits that include £40m of player sales alone!!
when does wenger’s contract run out ? youth project’s success or not, he’ll leave then.
i have a feeling steve bould is being groomed for the position.
Dennis I saw that, but I didn’t see the he said goodbye to his mates and got on a plane bit.
Nick I stopped counting years ago!
Rohan – He’s left a club mid-contract before unlike the story he likes to tell everyone!
That’s a bit harsh Inside – I think most Goons will miss Kolo; I for one will be sad to see him go.
I wonder how much, if any, Kolo’s loyalty bonus will be compared to what we gave that greedy Togolese twat!?
TAIG, Cattermole is my new (English) Cana haha. Can’t believe that he went to Sunderland. Seriously i think that in years to come it will come out that Arsene Wenger was actually a massive fraudster, that’s the reason that all of our deals are undisclosed. We sell Ade for £25m and then he tells the board that he sold him for £20m haha. Seriously though i have no idea how our club has become a blach hole for money, even when he says he will spend it he doesn’t and then the next season we only have £15ish million to spend again, something just isn’t right.
And he talked to us and agreed to join when he was still employed by the Japs!
blach = black
More budgetting and cashflow problems ahead:
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/islington-council-agrees-queensland-rd-plans
Clacko – I know mate, huge conflict of interest going on somewhere at Arsenal, of that I am sure!
Geoff – Not such a saint, huh!
Yeh sorry Geoff, i had it directly this morning from you-know-who’s son….
Happy Birthday Geoff!!
@ Rohan am with you on that prayer, why cant someone just bid for silvestre.
Goonerman – I know, fucking terrible that! We cant bring in any players but the board are obviously investing millions in yet another property development! Is there another club out there that is so focused on the property market!! Its becoming a joke! If the directors want to make money out of property then they should set up a completely separate company to do this. But oh no, wait, they need our money and assets as collateral to make this happen!
Great post Pedro, your match report was pretty accurate, as usual.
PS. The “COME ON YOU GUUUNNERS”, lady is present at every Arsenal game. She even sat behind me when I went to Romania in the Champions League and out sung the whole ground!!! I have a picture of her with me at a charity do at The Emirates which I will send to you, I think you will be suprised!!
DDM – PR’s?
Happy B’day Geoff……
Morning all…good post pedro.
Also, Geoff didn;t AW see out his contract wityh grampus 8 ?? that’s why we did not get him at the start of the season….
http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/24028/Arsenal_legend_No_one_sad_to_see_back_of_Adebayor__.aspx
Wrighty making sense
Oh, sorry Geoff, HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!
Can’t beelieve Wenger will sign Cattermole, what the hell has he got that Ramsay hasn’t. We either believe in our young players and give them a chance or forget it !!!
Media’s spin on Arshavin’s comments:
Andrey dismisses City challenge – Clubcall
Arshavin admits Arsenal face fight for fourth – Telegraph
Fucking hacks!
He saw it out Wardo but he agreed it when he was on their payroll.
AndyB how would we know who that bird is, does she know me? I’m at every game too.
WE SHOULD NOT buy a 28 yr old hangeland,who has NO RELSALE value…we should buy a 23/24 yr old experienced defender with that much money from kolos sale.
WE HAVE 43 MILLION!!!!!! Is there any one who thinks we will not buy at least one player???
i want to see what the pundits on ssn etc. say at the beginnig of the season regarding the top 4.. i wouldnt be surprised if most of them say we’re in trouble.. then again, it would be better for us to go under the radar and compete as underdogs as the pressure might be less.
sab – resale value should have no impact on the deal! Especially this year! We MUST win a major trophy this season if we want to keep players like Fabregas. We cannot let ourselves worry about making a profit! This is exactly why we are in this mess and have let ourselves become a selling club!
Geoff – I have just mailed you the picture
tony u hav a point,
but a experienced 23/24 yr old would not be good enough for a title win???
i mean doesnt experience of 24 yr old good enuf to be in squad for winning a title??
Veloso anyone? Miles better than what we have already. It would just be about paying the appropriate fee for him and if City want him that’s not going to happen I guess!
I completely agree with the point that at this point of time we should not worry about resale value. IF we buy him and dont win anything we will get enough from sale of players like fabregas. On the other hand if we buy him and win, the prize money and other revenues would more than make up. Thats how big clubs should be run.
sab – I don’t care what age they are, just how good they are. Whoever is the better player should get the nod. This is one the most important season’s we will have in recent times! Our club could seriously collapse if we fail to deliver a worthy prize this year!
Tony – I don’t think they are handling well the whole issue of communicating their financial position with supporters at all.
I think after the 31st August, after sales and purchases of players are complete, they must tell supporters where the club stands with their youth policy and desire to purchase top quality players from the market.
Supporters are getting frustrated but I feel are willing to wait to see until after 31st August!
ikon – good take on it!
Goonerman – Agreed. I have always maintained that AW has until the 1st Sep’ to produce the goods and save my value of him! The club don’t tell us anything and its is just causing too much trouble and is actually creating more pressure for themselves!
Anybody know why Thomas the Czech did not make an appearance in our last two games ? Please don’t tell me he’s had a set-back.
Um good wiv da laughin it will be so different and trendy and um totally up for it lets show him wat he really meant to us lol
u r right tony..i am not denying that u r wrong..
there is a point..
but in current financial scenario i have a practical feeling thats what the club owners and wenger going to do…
RvP is fucked off. He signs his contract because of the believe for more signings and he sees that two good players go. It’s f***king stupid. Wenger, I am really pissed of you. You cunt!!!! How can you do something like that!! You say to RvP: we have a good plan to win trophies. And the next month you sell all your players!!! It’s ridiculous.
sab – ha ha, no doubt that money is what matters most to these people unfortunately!
isnt veloso a prima donna… he hghly overrated from what i’ve heard.. and he has a shit workrate.. i’d rather buy moutinho – atleast he gets into the portugese first team more than veloser…
Dutchman – I’ve told you before about this. If it was down to the club’s ambition he wouldn’t have signed yet. Unless TV was enough to convince him its always been about the money!
dutchman…. yes 2 players are lost,but rvp himself in the interview deosnt seem to be that badly worried…
he seems to be quitely confident in dat interview that wenger will be getting some additions
i’d be pleased to see Veloso join, but have a feeling it will be Matuidi or noone for cm
Dutchman – how do you know he is fucked off like the rest of us?
tony
yes money is what they r concerned..but atleast they seemed to have slightly woken up to the fact that if we dont win anything,we might again go down the ladder for next 5 years…
thats why wenger calls it a do or die season..thats the MOST POSITIVE statement to read this summer for me from him
No point going on about transfers, nothing will be announced until august, so lets all go on a nice little break for a few days.
Rohan – Its simple. He is a good footballer, great at free kicks, can travel forwards, has a great engine and is tenacious in the tackle. All attributes that eclipse our current crop. He wouldn’t be my first choice but he would be ahead of Song and Denilson for me.
Thanks fuck Martins and Wolfsburg seem to like each other!
in realisation that genuinely our superstars will move on..if we dont win anything this year..with stupid crazy money on offer
The last Dodo named Cartman!
sab – I haven’t seen that. It does give the right message but does he believe it himself and will he make the necessary changes. Nothing so far suggests he will. I hope I am wrong though.
taig, veloso? i’m better than veloso but he might well do the job!
Cartman – He’s not the best choice but he is better than Song and Denilson.
and i’m sure next season we’ll win some trophiies… the ladies and the kids, hahahaha
i know taig!
buffon
sagna galllas hangeland clichy
walcott cesc cattermole aa
v.p huntelaar
tony…
i think wenger does believe himself a lot..
regarding yet to see necessary changes,i wonder the reason it is taking later is becos wenger himself said he wants to try combination in austrias preseason games,to make a decision of what type of additions he needs to the squad,to the manner in which he is going to play this season
i do hope wenger surprises us with some new combination which makes our team start ticking over…and additions to suit that combinations…
hence we prob need to wait till some part of pre-season completes to really smell some serious samoke of us getting signings of identified nature
stick that in your facking pipes lolll
I was out of town for the past 4-5 days, did anything happen?
I’m pretty sure I could muscle Denilson off the ball and I’m even more confident I could breeze past Song and I’m a cart horse centre back!
veloso doesnt have a great engine, i’ve watched him a few times and he’s more interested in his hair than tackling.. just my opinion though. also the fact that not too many people were linked with him and that bolton and spurs were one of them put me off a bit.
wenger has either completely lost the plot or he’s planning a proper squad overhaul.
is goonermichael around? didnt he have an insider?
taig -you wouldnt exactly be shitting yourself at the thought of facing denilsong now would you…..
talking about horses, there’s one buried at highbury!
Rohan – Bolton would bid on Ronaldo if they are stupid enough to think Madrid would let him go for £8m. That’s all that is. It got rejected straight away and Veloso said he wasn’t interested.
BBK – I’d be chomping at the bit!
Mayank – Yeah big news! Our cunting directors are starting a new property project! ffs…..
any chance off us getting flamini back? Is he welcome??
has anyone found a link to the goalie making a lewd gesture to the zombie penalty taker last night. I missed it at the time.
goonerm… its on the arsenal tv highlights, doesnt show it in the replay but you can see him giving the wanker sign… fucking brilliant.
Wenger has made it a stupid business…. Buy young & cheap players …sell them for big bucks after a couple of years….. Apparently putting money in the bank and getting interest on it is too time consuming and yields poor returns…so he’s started this new system….
Kolo Toure has brushed aside speculation linking him with a £14million move to Manchester City.
it will emirates cup or do we have one more friendly
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,2483_5456964,00.html
taig r u an amateur psychic?
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-goals-galore-at-the-emirates-cup
Congratz Geoff! It`s my birthday today also actually.
I have to say I feel gutted about Toures proposed move to Shitty. Kolo is the only remaining “invincible” and a loyal servant to our great club. Wenger is sending out the wrong signals once again if he decides to let him go. Why the hell should we hang on to players like Silvestre and Diaby when we sell a quality-player like Kolo?? I think he really had a good second half of the season and we all know how good he can be. He still got a lot of years left as a player at the top-level and the guy is pretty versatile as well. I find it hard to understand why he has`nt gotten a chance to prove himself as DM.
Why Wenger wants to strenghten City is a mystery. I know they pay a lot, £15 for Kolo is not bad, but they might be a real contender for 4th already this season. Thank God they have that useless Mark Hughes as their manager. The day they get in a proper manager they will start chasing us big time.
I don`t understand you Arsene, please start buying rather than selling or Andrey, Cesc and Robin will be gone before you know it!
where’s that facking fake eboue?
Cartman – Why is that?
Norwegian, can u play like DB10???
Manchester City and Bolton are battling it out to land Sporting Lisbon’s Miguel Veloso.
Cartman – SSN had the story before I wrote about that.
Wonder where Wenger can offload Randall to now. The boy is bloody useless. Maybe someone like Brighton or Gillingham will take him. League one might be his level.
Okay i’m up to date now… what’s that about the property project TAIG.
I just realised a new stat Dudu has scored on every one of his injury returns for Arsenal.
Also if Nik and Dudu keep scoring like this RvP will get some serious competition.
I hope everyone remembers it was me who suggested Cattermole months ago!
The consensus then was that he would be a good signing, but it was unlikely because he’s not Wenger’s type of player.
Cartman: I really would like to have the skills of Bergkamp, but unfortunately I only have his brain…
why the feck are bolton obsessed with him ?
http://www.funnypicturesworld.com/img/funny/funny0498.jpg
thats where the current problem lies all these wenger type players are not winning us trophys,we need something different
dont lie!
what is wenger saying about toure? Could some one paste it here… i cant open the link…
i’ll have lunch…
back laters!
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/exclusive-wenger-latest-on-toure-situation
anyone access to arsenal tv…pls let us know…
what wenger has to say
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/exclusive-wenger-latest-on-toure-situation
Somebody with ATV view it and tell us !!
Anyone managed to read Wengers comments on Toure and new signings just been on Pravda.com and its only for paying customers nothing like letting the fanbase know hey !!!
theres a wenger intervie on the arsenal website, where he talks about toure. any one read it
watching it now lads….
Happy birthday Geoff!!!!!
common Arsenal Tom…please inform us on latest
gazzap Randall is one loan at Derby for the season
ardent wenger said that his future will be decided in the next 24 hours.
wenger pretty much said there will be additions, but not decided who yet and no timeline for anyone coming in.
‘ i will see whats happening in the next 24 hours’ nothing decieded yet, we have many center backs, we have 7 centre backs now and im in a posisiton where i have to play some in midfield but of course kolo is a very good player, we’ll see next week what happens’
Arsenal Tom
What does Wenger say?
Arsenal Tom
Anything about new signings?
And about the new arrivals and when will he buy ?
A and Arsenal Tom
Thanks
on players coming in…
‘well at the moment im more focussed on gettign everyone fit for the start of the season, and we are looking at opportunities as well, there are still some pre-season games to see what we really need and when the time has come we will do something’
in the next few days or weeks?
i wouldnt like to set any time limits on that
Hmmm looks like kolo is going.Unless we suffer a major injury at the back with the next 4 or 5 days.Hope he uses the money well
Anyone know what wenger said here
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/exclusive-wenger-latest-on-toure-situation
Thanks Arsenal tom and A
looks like we have to wait for a week..when most of our pre-season games are done.
prob toure is going but only at our asking price…hence the delay i feel for wenger to say in 1 week we will know..for negotiation purposes
Cracks me up they put our property stories up on the main site but not the major footballing stories from the club fuck me we might as well be known as Fc PropertyDevelopers,, Fuck the Board money grabbing cunts of the highest order !!!
he said the toure situation will be resolved in 24 hours. He is focused on the players we have and that he wants to what more preseason games before deciding if we need to recruit….
Wenger is sheer agony !!
A, I only wish he was. Nigel Clough sent him back to Arsenal saying he wasn’t what he was looking for ie he was utter crap. Derby wont have him, neither will any Championship club because at the end of the day, he isn’t good enough for that level.
sab wenger didn’t say 1 week, he said 24 hours, so only about 10 hours left!
If you have so many CBs, why don`t you get rid of Senderos and Silvestre??
It smells financial problems….
oh really gazzap, i didn’t know that, thought the loan had been completed after he went there on trial! He is good enough for championship level, he’s just a dick. Imagine he’ll go somewhere else, i’d be happy for him to go permanently with a hefty sell on clause
Think they would have learnt there lesson after the fiasco that is the Highbury developemnet but oh no lets make our property portfolio even bigger but fuck the side we will get more money when we sell with all the property we now own CUNTS CUNTS CUNTS !!
Im in a shit mood today
MARK… read my last 2 posts mate, that was typed as i watched
His interview doesnt tell us anything ( not really surprising ) , the only thing that is for sure is the fact that the cb situation means he will let go of someone but Toure looks to have gone
thanks A…yes 24 hrs for toure situation
by 1 week i meant,prob after 1 week when most of our pre-season games are done..wenger will decide on TYPE OF PLAYER he wants to buy…
lol norwegian that’s a strange conclusion to come to! Toure wants to go, and senderos will be going too, silvestre staying because of his experienc.
So obviously sendy is just playing in midfield because we’ve got too many centre backs, and maybe same could be said for song, which means a dm coming in.
http://gunnerblog.com/?p=1875
who is Thomas Bendtner?
i dunno ali, it shows us that he’s still looking to bring people in, which is a good thing.
BYE BYE toure….we know ur heart is in arsenal..but u need to secure ur future retirement..
all the best with dat
and THANKS FOR THE SPECTACULAR COMMITMENT ON FIELD..
Chippy – Dont get me started on the whole property thing again! I thought we were a football club not a property developer! Haven’t even got that Highbury Square mess behind us and they already want to use the club as collateral for another property disaster!
Property is to the board what project youth is to Wenger! And the fans want neither!
Norwegian Bergkamp…..any news from norway regarding what’s happening with hangeland, coming to arsenal or not?
He said we’ll see, when asked about new players and he was more interested in the pre season matches, he also said we’ll see with Kolo, it’s up to him and he now has 7 centrebacks of which some are playing in midfield.
Yeah Arsene but 4 of those 7 are complete fucking shit.
Eduardo’s and Nikk B’s form and with RVP, Arshavin and Vela to add to that….The possibility of us getting Huntelaar look slim…
I mean no club can have just the 3 out and out strikers but knowing Wenger he might be tempted to not buy… And he’ll come out and say we have enough…with probably Jay Simpson being promoted to 1st team …
Chippy, the new development project is with a partner.
We will sell the land to a developer, who will build houses on it.
Highbury square, we owned the land, and sold the flats, there is a big difference in risk here.
The new houses, wont be ready for a couple of years, most of them will be council houses, so you dont have to worry about not selling them, the government is picking up the bill.
Geoff can u name those 4 who are shit according to u
As for bringing in players , A , he kept it all very rounded , i do expect some activity after the emirates cup maybe…..
Ooh ooh, let me jump in! Senderos, Silvestre, Song and Djourou!
Funny that, it’s more important to built 700 houses for lazy cunts who don’t want to work hard and buy a real house, you know, unaffordable housing like the rest of us have to, but we’ll let the poor fans queue up at the station in the freezing cold because we won’t help fund escalators at Holloway road, why? Because we are selfish and greedy.
Lets faxce it, we’re absolutely f**ked financially.
Yes we have 7 CBs – but to sell Kolo rather than Silgvestre or Senderos is plain stuipd (i should point out i dont rate Toure but Wenger always has.)
Obcviously not a footballing decision but a financial one, we are now a property company, not a football club.
I could even name the shit ones…Senderos, Song, Silvestre & Djourou are all a pile of shit
AT/Mark C
what a bullshitter wenger is , we will monitor the next few days…. weeks ..
more like hours …..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/8172622.stm
bbc very seldom prints bullshit rumors by there REAL writers …
it adds credence to the theory he is almost out of here !
Wenger is great at beating around the bush….
Never ever will u get a direct answer for a direct question from him…unless you ask him his name…
by the time wengers ready to spend all the good players would have been snapped up .
pre season form means noting really… that team was 3rd in the hungarian league!!
darren bent scored about 12 goals in pre-season for the last 2 years and look at the state of him!!
Common Guys…Song and Djourou never got an oppurtunity to play as CB…for a along time to judge…
but yes this is the season which is do or die for us..so we better get some experience back dere…
somebody in the mornign was talking was talking abt a cheap belguim experienced defender “Van” something from ‘Andreletch’
ardent – Or what he would do with £100m!!
Newspaper reports that Toure has agreed personal terms with City are premature but the deal is expected to be completed by the end of this week.
so pedro you can add to that kitty amount by 15 mil soon
gambon kolo isn’t going to be first choice so wants to leave, AND it’s the african nations this year!! That’s the reason he’s going, and very likely senderos will be going as well! It’s a footballing decision not a financial one, though obviously it’s financially beneficial as well
sab – there is a very good reason that those 2 didn’t ever get long stints in the team. They are shit!
lol ethan how is wenger bullshitting – 14 or so hours ago he said that Kolo’s future will be decided in the next 24 hours!
The Kolo deal is good for everyone involved! Apart from Man City maybe as £15m is probably day light robbery. But fuck it, if they don’t care……
atleast Tony..do u see some hope…in wenger saying that there will be additions after prob emirates cup(i say)
lmao TAIG.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartman_Gets_an_Anal_Probe
and thats a very nice idea, laughing at the twat. i would love to see that happen. would make my day for sure!
yes 15-16 mill for toure going into last year is defintely good business
SO IT SEEMS VERMALEAN WAS BROUGHT IN KEEPING IN MIND THAT TOURE WOULD 90% BE OFF
sab – I really don’t know! on the one hand I cant believe that Wenger could possibly ignore our problem areas! On the other hand, he did exactly that last year!
A: If Kolo wants to go it is because Wenger has told him there is no place for him in the starting line-up. Kolo loves this club and I find it strange if he is the one sacrified by Arsene. He had a strong second half of the season, also when paired with Gallas. Who knows how good Vermaelen will be??
Why Senderos is getting so many minutes is beyond me. If he is cetain to leave he should`nt be taking up space in our midfield IMO.
If we keep Toure AND Gallas I see no point keeping Silvestre. Two experienced CBs should be enough, We would do better with more experience in midfield.
Please stay Kolo!
I’m hoping that Vermaelen is there to back up Gallas and then replace him when he leaves and Djourou is there to back up Hangeland……
http://gunnerblog.com/?p=1875
Yes, you see to his words that he will bring in somebody!
yes tony u r right..only difference which is giving me hope is that wenger said ‘ this is like a do or die season’…and as u said
wenger better mean it ..else our stars may go god forbid
Norwegian – Toure handed in a transfer request in January that got REJECTED. So Wenger obviously likes him. But that kind of money cannot be refused especially when Toure has a massive disliking of our best defender which was apparent too many times on the field last year!
The Toure deal is all over SSN and they say it should be complete by Friday!
Doesnt Touré have about 6 kids?
No wonder he needs financial stability!
wenger is looking for players but latter the pre season. He is looking for players!!
yes tony thats a good combo…atleast we NOW KNOW that one of our GAURENTEED starting CB is going…so
someone has to step up or Vermalean/new signing could be the gaurenteed starter along with gallas
Happy Birthday, Geoff!!!
In general wenger only lets players go when he wants them to go – even if he makes it look like its the players or fans fault. wenger is wily.
Wenger is happy for both Ade and Toure to be gone, especially with that kind of money coming in.
Toure isn’t offering the Arsenal defence what it needs right now. thats why he was in and out of the team last season, and wenger thinks he is only getting worse. With ANC as well, selling Toure for more than any other club would pay for him is simply good business.
Ade was a disruptive force in the changing room, misses easy chances – and basically is not worth £25m so again its good business.
Its not time to panic. Be interesting to see whether Senderos will stay if toure goes.
£16m! Sounds better than £14m to me!
true ATom, bent should win the ballon d’or of pre-season.
TAIG talk about stating the bleedin obvious!
gooner_b11: No news on Hangeland in Norway
Chipo –
I was pleased with £14m, let alone £16m!
rohan lol!
the transfer request was rejected because wenger knew it would fuck us up for him to go mid-season.
the kolo money will put us at roughly 25m in credit from ade
Some people coming out with statements like ” niki b is far better than ade anyway ” is just silly talk. Of course he isn’t,i know nobody liked him and good riddance but jesus a small bit of cop on wouldn’t go amiss with some of you !
Jamie, Bendtner IS far better than Ade anyway.
I dont know how you dont see it.
I for one hope Kolo doesnt leave for City. Ifr he goes to another league then i would accept it but selling 40m worth of our players to a close rival would be insane, especially as we wouldnt re-inves that whole 40m into our starting XI.
Mark, Dont buy it mate the sports centres etc im sure will be funded by the club yes the houses may will be susidised by the goverment but you can bet your bottom dollar the club will be pumping shit loads into it, Its all part of there grand scheme to enlarge the property aspects of the business so it will sell for more money and have no fear that is the end goal of our board to earn as much as possible out of Selling and if that fucks the club and fans in the short term so be it they will be laughing in a few years CUNTS CUNTS CUNTS, oh and why they are at it surely there are a few more bits of our history and tradition they havent sacrificed in there pursuit of the global brand !!!!! TAIG couldnt agree more its a travesty what they are getting away with at the moment,,
The club should be selling that land off and washing their hands of property. forget greed, just get your mind on football.
I believe 100% that Bendtner WILL be better than Adebayor. And I think the only thing he lacks is consistency. That comes with experience.
He has all the attributes to be world-class.
And ask yourself this – could Adebayor have played right midfield and looked as good as Bendtner there? Not a chance. Because technically Nikki B is a better player.
Chippy – It all comes down to two questions:
Q1 – Would the board be doing it if they were not going to make any money out of it?
A – No, they Wouldn’t.
Q2 – Would the ‘partner’ let Arsenal take a profit from this development if they put no money into the project?
A – No, they wouldn’t.
Conclusion – Arsenal FC must be pumping money into this project. Its a money making scheme. Simples.
toure isnt going to make a big difference to city’s defence and hence their chances.. lately he hasnt been much better than say richard dunne
Yea, seriously, who is Thomas Bendtner??
Adebayor MUST be replaced, we also need an experienced CM or two, and a dedicated defense Coach.
I still can’t get to terms with drawing 4-4 agains the Spuds.
Clearly Thomas Bendtner is Nicklas’ Daddy. Duh!
Mark C – Most of them will not be council owned. 50% will be ‘affordable rented accommodation’. My friends have this deal at their flat which means they pay half of the rent and the council pay half of the rent. So the investors will get 50% of the flats to sell or rent and then 50% of the ‘affordable rented accommodation’. Effectively that’s 75%.
Bendtner is better than Ade because he is better on the ball, off the ball, at passing, linking up, jumping and heading. All that Ade is better at is scoring but thats only because he is older and had more time to “perfect” it.
that question is getting asked way too much on here.. its getting rather old now.
Stu – Adebayor is better at whoring himself to other clubs too!
We’re gonna see a lot more of this over the next couple of weeks!
http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/24055/Fulham_star_exit_rumours_resurface_as_Arsenal_look_for_Toure_replacement.aspx
Oh of course Taig, cant believe i forgot that one.
So Toure gone for a medical.
Kolo Toure is reportedly flying back to England from Arsenal’s Austria training base to finalise his transfer to Manchester City.
Sky Sports News report that Toure is returning to undergo a medical at Eastlands after the two clubs agreed a fee of £16m. It’s thought that Toure may be unveiled as a City player by Friday.
If so, Toure will be the second Arsenal player in as many weeks to leave for Eastlands after the £25m transfer of Emmanuel Adebayor.
One question… If the board are looking to make profit by investing in property surely that money goes to Arsenal FC not the board itself. So why would they go to all the trouble of doing this if they’re just greedy.
and look at how far ade has gone with his ” perfecting ” ..
So unless AW goes and gets some African players then this season we should not be too affected by the ACN.
Stu, who’s Jamie Bendtner?
Mayank – Yes it goes into Arsenal FC. And it increases our value as a club. And when it comes to sell up, who is going to profit from that?
Hence the “” Rohan.
John, there is no such person.
Stu Says:
July 28, 2009 at 13:19
Jamie, Bendtner IS far better than Ade anyway.
I dont know how you dont see it.
£16 mil for kolo is alot of money, next couple weeks could be very interesting with transfers, could really see eboue joining kolo in leaving and sendy going as well
Exactly John, No such person exists.
TAIG – The shareholders will, of which the board are only a small part of. Besides if our value as a club increases that can only be good. Also if they invest in making our squad stronger that will also increase our value.
Toure is apparently looking for a house near Ade’s….. F*cking whore convinced toure….
A – If Wenger has plans for Eboue to leave surely the logical thing to do is to ask for Richards in return as he can challenge or cover for RB & CB slots?? Just what I would do anyway.
I agree TAIG. £16 million for a centre back who has given his best years and is now probably past it is a smart bit of business. However, unless wenger spends the £40+million we could be in BIG trouble. Big names leaving can only be replaced by big names coming in, otherwise players and fans alike get upset.
Unfortunately, according to Wengers TV Online clip, i dont think we’ll sign a defender other than vermalen. He claims we have ’7′ centre backs atm! 7!
We desperately require a defender who can play accross the back four and possibly 2 midfielders (one centre and the other a winger) im thinking Vieira/Pires role.
So 3 defenders A. And who are we replacing them with because if we dont then all we have is Vermaelen, Gallas and JD. Thats not nearly enough.
And Stu, remember that when Ade arrived he was far far worse than Bendtner at shooting.
To be fair though, Adebayor’s shooting is abysmal, apart from the occasional wondergoal.
I would swap the spurs and villareal goals for a competent knowledge of the offside rule though!
We are on the verge of selling our 3 most experienced players…… and how the hell are we supposed to give “lack of experience” as the reason this term…..
Mayank – I know you are not so naive to think that money made from a property development will be given to Arsene Wenger to spend on players! You are living in dreamland if you believe that!
Expect this :
Toure to complete his move soon
Every defender and his to dog to be linked to us
And I am not sure what AW is upto…. Hangeland ? Huntelaar ? Cattermole ? Bramble ?
Unfortunately not Arsene knows…….:P
A are you aware that you are Le Chump of the week?
Arsene Wenger with £40m to spend is more than capable of turning us into the best team anywhere in Europe.
But the problem is how much will he spend??….ive got a feeling the Ade money was used to recoup the money spent on Verm & Arshavin, and the Toure money is all he will have.
I meant have already sold one and are on the verge of selling 2 more…. correction to the above comment
Carlos – It is a great deal but he MUST be replaced, no doubt about it! I’m starting to really believe the Hangeland hype.
15 million for Toure and he’s only got 1 year left. I’d bite both their arms off
7 CB,aha sounds good,but doesnt wenger know what they r upto
silvestre – not even of premiership quality,barring top four.
sendros – has an overt desire of leaving,no point keeping him.and ofcoure we dont need him
djourou and song – definately needs experience,but for such a imp season we cant rely upon them.
toure – will be off to ACN,and seriously he is no more a quality anymore
gallas – probably our best cb,but on wrong side of 30 and too injury prone.
vermaelaen – untested
this is what our back looks like,how come wenger cant see such a big weakness of team and he is still reluctant to buy one.
Replace Toure with….Zapata? Like for like.
Eboue with….some random attacking fulback who can play down the right. I nominate someone like Srna.
Yeah taig, that’s what I was thinking, though richards as right back back up, he can’t play centre back anymore! Or maybe whoever we bring in as a centre back if both kolo and senderos go will be able to play right back, or lansbury could be earmarked to be sub right back.
Stu we’ve currently got 7 centre backs, if kolo and senderos go then we’ve still got Gallas and Vermaelen as first choice, then JD and Song as the others, the silvestre after that. Most teams have 3 or max 4 centre backs, so depth wise we’ve still got more than most, but I’d still really like someone else to come in as back up, to take over from Gallas next summer, as I really dunno if Song would be up to it, and I really don’t think JD will be
what happened to rosicky ? he played for a half in the first game and then haven’t seen him since…
For Fuck’s sake, why don’t we just sell Fabregas and Arshavin to City as well.. Fuck it they can have our whole first team, and we’ll use the reserves. That’ll be a good idea
Are we having an African clearout?
Wenger I am afraid is lost it. Am tempted to call him a big fool. Why will a coach need preseason to determine what he needs? Oh I see, he is thinking about converting Sendy to a DM? And he thinks Bent will be be the next best thing now that Ade is gone? Can someone spell D-E-L-U-S-S-I-O-N-A-L?
raisonar….
give him some time…Toure has not yet been sold…I’m sure if he sells toure..he’ll bring in a CB….. else the critics/fans will murder him..
lol Chipo yeah I am – and I never even did anything, think it was just a misunderstanding between Geoff and Pedro that I’ve been blamed for!!
I know it won’t, but i’m saying if we go according to the logic that the board are only looking to line their pockets and don’t care about the club, then property investment isn’t the way to go. If they just pumped borrowed money into the club to build a great squad then sell the shares they’d be making a fortune in a shorter time. I do think that the intentions of the board by and large are good it’s just that they’re too conservative and afraid to take risks that is costing us.
15M for Toure is a great price. I would have thought 8m or 9m.
confident senderos is playing dm because we have too many centre backs. He needs pre season because he needs to decide who’s going and who’s staying….
H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y T O Y O U !
Rohan..
Rosicky , Fab and Theo are going to be unleashed in the Emirates cup… Cuz we want some silverware..
A – Do you not think that he may be able to recapture some of his CB at club that manages him well? That would be a shame. Anyway, I guess he would only be needed at CB if we had 3 CB injuries at the same time. As for our CB’s I think we only need Gallas, Vermaelen, Djourou and a new guy, we know I like Hangeland. I guess Silvestre isn’t going anywhere so he’ll be our nightmarish last resort!
yeah lewyd, it’s a great price
Gallas nd Silvestre – leaving for free next summer.
Toure – 1 year left, seemingly gone.
Senderos – likewise
Song – hasnt played much in defence but Wenger says thats where he will play. Not good enough yet.
Djourou – too young and somewhat erratic and nervy.
Vermaelen – unknown yet. Time will tell.
So basically we have 2 CBs and 1 midfielder come CB.For next season thats all we are qualrenteed to have. We NEED to get better defenders im.
Mayank the share price will go higher meaning when they sell the shares will be at a premimium meaning they are more wonga,,,
It just sickens me that they think building more property is more an improtant News Story than selling our longest serving player unless you pay to hear that info, The Cunts have lost all appreciation for the fanbase and do no longer give a shit what they do as they know there are no comebacks as theyve walked all over us for years ever since they changed our badge to that ghastly fucking cartoon logo CUNTS !
Confidentgooner – you obviously can’t spell it! Only one ‘s’ in delusional.
And if you call selling a 28yr old in the last year of his contract who will miss 6 weeks of the season playing in the African Cup of Nations for £16m delusional then you need to think again pal! That sounds too good to be true if you ask me!
Mayank – If that was the case they have had long enough to implement that strategy. Its clearer than clear that they do not understand a title winning team is the best way to generate money. Its even clearer that they believe property is more manageable (at least to them) and the fact that they are about to start a 2nd project only increases this perception.
Nope taig – he lost his drive and determination, and has gone backwards in the last 2 years to such an extent that he wasn’t even trusted at centre back ahead of muppets like onuha! There’s no way he’d become more focussed on improving his football in London, he’d see it as a great move for his DJ career, football would still just be a day job for him!!
Yeah I’d agree with all that taig, though Song seems like he’s really considered a centre back rather than a DM, which makes me sure a DM is coming in.
ardent, yea.. hope so, for a second i feared that tomas suffered another setback.
yes the emirates cup is going to be our only chance at silverware.
Afternoon all… Toure has left the training camp to undergo a medical at eastlands after a fee of 16m (sterling) was agreed….
Hang on a minute, YOU WHAT!? If anyone saw the Wenger interview after the game he all but confirmed it, then whinged he had to play some defenders in midfield.. Why didn’t he just get rid of silvestre and let senderos go then ffs? I will be the first to acknowledge that Toure (current last invincible) hasn’t been that great over the past two years but at 28 he’s about to hit his peak and he is the current MR. ARSENAL…
That now leaves us with 40m we won’t spend and according to arsene until after the emirates cup at the very earliest we won’t be making any signings whilst he accesses what we need… Surely he can’t be that fucking stupid 2 years on the bounce!
Has he stopped to relaise that new players need to be bedded in and that if worse comes to worse all his targets might have:
a) signed new contracts with their respective clubs
b) signed for someone else or
c) don’t want to move now because their season is pretty much under way…
We have a very difficult start and being one of the more positive gunners in terms of our squad selection, I now know wenger is skating on very, very thin ice.. Alot are not happy at all…
If we have a poor start I guarentee the Wenger out Brigade will come to town and he will only have himself to blame, because if he blames the fans for not supporting and getting behind the team as an excuse like he did last season.. He’ll be hung up and left to dry!
Wait who’s a short arse and is probably open to a move?
Carvalho?
Onto football, aren’t Fab and Sendy good friends. Maybe Phil as DM would be good since Cesc plays well with a pal. 2 questions, does he have the engine? can he pass?
we might have 7 defenders. but 3 of them are shit. and the others all have question marks over their heads. compare our CBs with Chelsea who have Terry, Carvalho, Alex! It doesn’t matter who is 4th choice when your first 3 are brilliant.
look at chelsea’s spine, Mikel, Essien and Lampard, then Drogba. Arsenal can dream of a spine like that. Its why Arsenal cannot win the league with the current squad. wenger is in dreamland if he thinks we can.
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I would be happy with Hangeland as a replacement, if our CB options were;
Hangeland – Gallas
Djourou – Vermaelen
Song
Then I would be happy, the only problem is it would be hard to sell Eboue as there’s no cover at CB, so maybe Zapata would be a better signing.
I also wouldnt be surprised to see Bassong brought in.
We still havent got the DM we need and thats a big problem, Denilson & Song have shown so far in pre season they arent good enough and Ramsey is not a DM.
I just hope to Fuck Wenger spends all what hes made in this transfer window cos if hes allowed to/And Or wants to he will be able to seriously turn us back into contenders as £40mills alot of wonga in his hands for new players that will easily buy a striker/Winger which id prefer ,Centre Mid, and Defender So go wild in them Aisles Mr Bossman !!!
I am not too happy about us selling toure.Adeabyor won’t strenthen city but toure will.If he plays alongside someone big he will still be effective.Don’t think wenger will get another CB cos he was talking about having too many CB’s.I definitely won’t want senderos to leave now.Really really sad to see toure leave
gazzap i don’t see those three as brilliant. Alex is the best imo, Carvalho was quality but no idea how he’ll be now after injuries and getting on a bit, and Terry is very overrated. I’d rather Gallas than Carvalho or Terry
ardentgooner
my point is,we need a quality cb even if he dont sell toure.
and what if just for critics sake,he ends up buying another silvestre.
TAIG, Chippy – you both make good points but there’s evidence backing both the scenarios, only time will tell i suppose.
There is no point in posting comment’s on here nobody want’s to be sensible or rational about anything its ridiculous.I hate Adebayor as much as anyone but the truth is how much would bendtner be worth on the transfer market,anybody ? I’m thinking between 5 and 8 million tops !
I am happy about the 16 million we are getting but what is wenger going to do with this money?Anyone here thinks he will spend big on a DM.
You forgot about Ivanovic A. He is good, not great but goes in hard, doesnt complain and is versatile.
Why are we so hellbent on strengthening City? If they do pip us for 4th then we’ll have to take so much flak.
Some ManCity fans are thinking that Toure is better than John Terry… Going by Toure’s performances in the last year or so…i think John Terry is way better….
Pros and cons of selling Kolo Toure:
Pro’s:
- At £16m that is probably double his real value.
- His game rely’s on his pace and at 28 years old there is only one direction that is going – down!
- He has only 1 year left on his contract.
- He would be off the the ACN AGAIN.
- His disliking of our best defender is far to apparent and is affecting us on the pitch.
- He wanted to leave in January.
- Next year he would be worth about £6m
- He has Malaria, a disease that you can never get rid of and could come back and effect you at ANY time.
- He probably wants to leave
- He’ll be doubling his wages, good for him.
Cons:
- We are not sure if Wenger will reinvest.
Jamie, well if thats the case then why are milan bidding 10m or so for him. He is a great prospect. One if the most highly rated in europe and for good reason. He is better than Ade. Just accept it.
Kolo’s gone for £16m…..
Happy Birthday Geoff….
Rev, I’m afraid Wenger is that stupid. He can’t to terms with the fact that his little kiddies can’t cut it in central midfield or central defence(Djourou) and he’s waiting and waiting for them to suddenly step up in a pre-season game.
It’s a pathetic policy. You judge a team by the previous season, not on a few games against Austrian part-timers.
A, OK but you cant deny their spine overall is stronger and more solid than ours. their midfield is fearsome and it gets goals, important goals.
Taig, Con: Selling Toure would weaken us somewhat and strengthen a rival.
If you’re thinking that then you’re pretty deluded jamie – 12-16 mil would be what a normal team would pay, City would pay a similar amount as they did for Ade. I wouldn’t expect Bendy to be worth any less on the market than Ade, after all people in football all rate Bendy very highly, and it would be them bidding for Bendy rather than the MOTD watching fans who say bendy is shit because they just watch highlights of his misses.
Mayank… City won’t pip us for the 4th… City still havent sorted their back 4…And adding Toure isnt helping much (if toure continues the form he was in for us)… I’d get worried if they snapped up 2-3 defenders ( lescott,mexes etc )….
Happy Birthday Geoff…Keep on bloggin’!!
I’ll be sorry to see him go but £16 million is a lot of money to turn down AS LONG as it is spent on a replacement. If he does go… Thanks Kolo
Oh and he became more and more like a headless chicken last season!
LOL A, you just called Jamie a shit MOTD fan! HA!
Arsenal FC God help u
Stu – I cant have it that Toure is going to strengthen them. He just isn’t that good anymore.
He has to spend all the funds.. He can’t escape that fact.. he’s strengthend city and surely a top class markee signing will only appease some… In my opinion a bad start will see his days numbered…
Only a signing like Villa or De Rossi is going to shut some up.. Personally I think i’m going to freak out the longer we are kept in the dark..
Wenger i starting to side with the mob that want you out, sort it ffs!
jamie – no chance he would be that cheap.
Full international who scored 15 goals for us last season- mostly from sub appearances.
And he’s 21.
£14m fair value
£19m market value
But i’m not sure arsenal would sell him full stop.
He is the future Jamie i’m telling you! And the future starts tomorrow!
Many believe than players become more calm and cooler with experience but clearly that isnt the case with Toure. He has always been as erratic as ever and panics so easily. Shame that as he is a legend..
Regarding strengthening City – If they’re spending the £16 mil on Kolo, rather than looking to Europe for someone who’s actually worth £16 mil and snapping him up, then we’re actually weakening them!
Kolo and Ade both had uses, but neither are top top players, so if we’re filling up their squad with players who aren’t top quality when otherwise they’d find top quality players elsewhere, we’re strengthening our position compared to theirs!
A stay clear of crystal meth. it affects clear judgement
TAIG we both know that is wishful thinking.. He’s a centre half and at 28 is just about to come good, plus he’ll have something to proove.. Those 2 transfer dealing could potentially shoot us in the fot.. Can you imagine the flak we’d recieve from all quarters if they have a great start and we are struggling to get points at hull and stoke etc.
TAIG.He is a lot lot better than what city have currently.Think it will be a good buy for city
listen, remember what Grimandi said – we have to sell before we can buy. so now we are selling, something great can happen.
HOW GOOD IS IT GOING TO BE WHEN TOURE GETS RAPTUROUS APPLAUSE ON HIS RETURN TO THE EMIRATES AND THAT CUNT ADEBAYOR GETS LAUGHED AT!!!! FUCKING BRILLIANT!!!!
Ardent, I know , I personally think it’s going to be us and ‘Pool fighting for the PL, but still if they do we’re going to end up with egg on our face.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamon_Nooone
No i didn’t stu, i didn’t call anyone specific anything!! jamie didn’t say bendy is shit did he??
A, I completely agree with what you said. Ade and Toure are not the strongest players City could have bought with that same money.
Well who do city have in the middle of defence? Kompany? Toure is defo better than him. Richards? Better than him as well. Thus Toure would strengthen them. Simples….
Reva – His performances have gotten worse and worse for us and you think he’s suddenly going hit his peak at a new club during ACN year? I don’t think so. I love Kolo but I’m not going to let it effect my judgement on his recent performances!
Their first choice is onuha and dunne stu, both crap, anyone would be better than them!
Exactly A, so he is better than what they have, thus strengthening them.
while were at it we might aswell sell clichy to madrid gallas to whoever and not have a defence what you reckon???????
TAIG all well and good but who’s coming in? That now is the more important question..
Because if it is Hangeland and Matudi i will exceptionally pissed off…
Stu Says:
July 28, 2009 at 14:01
Many believe than players become more calm and cooler with experience but clearly that isnt the case with Toure. He has always been as erratic as ever and panics so easily. Shame that as he is a legend..
Stu – That’s because Toure’s game is massively reliant on his pace and he is starting lose that a bit. He’s not a great reader of the game so he’s going to get caught out more and more now.
shouldnt he have a replacement lined up before actually selling……. Or is he going to wait till he sells and then looks for a replacement ( which would be last week of august..) and by then most of the players would have been snapped up by others and we will end up with another silvestre..
Yeah of course stu, but whatever happens they’re going to strengthen by signing 2 centre backs, by selling them kolo we’re limiting how much they’re getting strengthened, certainly that’s what we did selling them ade!
reva i’ll be absolutely ecstatic if matuidi comes in
Reva – I will be pleased with Hangeland but not with Matuidi!
yes vermaelen is his replacement
A, good point, Man City could have spent the 25+16 mil on a very good CF and CB. But the fact is they won’t get any. They can only get players like Ade and Toure who are either greedy or past it. if they even do manage 5th this season they’ll attract more players next season. Anyway its got too many variables for anyone to predict. We should just be safe and become the best club in Europe.
Mayank it seems 4th is the target
TAIG.Agreed but his performance dipped also because of the fact that he didn’t have the right partner.Him and gallas have never been a great combination.Toure beginning of 2007-2008 was great.And then suddenly acn came and he lost his form.Think he can do well for city
We are selling toure, ANC coming up.. last year of his contract.
Good Bit.
Now if we don’t use that money, we’re facked!!
Good one Mayank!!
A mate..
must say im abit puzzled….to dare to say that Kolo is anything than a great player is for me like going to war against all true Gooners…
you should really treat Legends with a small bit of respect…
tom
sagna gallas vermaelen clichy that has to be the worlds smallest back 4
HAPPY BIRTHDAY GEOFF.
I don’t care if Huntelaar is slow I don’t care if he isn’t a Team player that can be sorted. He scores lots of goals.
We concede lots of goals so we need to score lots of goals.
When Eduardo is injured and RVP is injured there will be a mob looking at having a pop at Nikki B again like last year.
We are short and need a striker and The Hunter scores goals.
Gallas and Toure were a great partnership until the ACN. Then Toure became shit and took Senderos’ place and things have been down hill since then.
I am sad about Toure possibly leaving, but I’m thinking that this could be a masterstroke from Wenger (If he doesn’t rest on his laurels and re-invest)
Last time he left for ANC he got malaria and also lost hi form and mind completely…imagine what would he be after this years ANC….
i think 16mill is great business as long as we spend it on some one else…
Franchise if that was the case then we wouldn’t be strengthening our main rivals for that spot.
anybody here who thinks we will finish in top 4 this season,and top 6 next season???
as fabregas will be surely off if we dont won anything!!!
Vermaelen should be better than Toure. we also made a little bit of money, and Verm is younger. But the defence still isn’t as strong as it could be.
i like richard dunne.. he isnt that bad.. last season probably wasnt his best, but he does read the game well and is a fighter to the end…
nishanth – He is going to partner Dunne. How well can they get on, really? If Lescott comes in, Kolo may well be benched. Add going missing for 2 months for the ACN and I really don’t see Kolo leading a City resistance that is to be feared!
huh tom?? kolo was a great player alongside sol, since then he’s been going downhill, ever since gallas arrived he hasn’t been the same player. He’s still been good at times, he was horrific after the last African Nations but recovered from that. He still never reached the heights before that, and has started losing his pace.
He’s a legend but that doesn’t mean we should be delusional about his current footballing ability!
Not really THAT small at all BBK
Tom, we all love Toure for what he has done at the club but he isnt the same player he once was. Losing him wouldnt be catasrophic.
So can Vela though tel… With 40m i expect us to be aiming at the crem de la crem of centre mifdielders… Hangeland is fine, but we in all hindsight could lose senderos and eboue also… Does anyone actually think that he’ll spend the money?
I’ll weigh in with my 2 pence and say we’ll sign hangeland and cham-cack and that will be it… Oh how the mighty are falling!
I agree about the Hunter … he is different to the other strikers we have. He is a ‘kitchen sink’ striker…. bugger the finnesse just put th ****ing ball in the back of the net. We haven’t had a striker who attacked the near post and got into danger areas come what may since Ian Wriight
Toure didnt get Malaria at the ACN. He got it in the summer when he was on holiday.
i predict we won’t qualify for the group stage of the c.league and we will fall out the top 4………..
Kolo a Good footballer a great bloke an average CB.
Thanks Kolo for what you did for our Club and good luck.
PS please tell the new Manager how good our Goalkeeper is, maybe we can do a swap.
Rohan saying Dunne wasn’t that good last season is an understatement, last season he was one of the worst regular centre backs in the prem, he was absolutely horrific.
City have already been in talks to sell him, and when someone comes in he’ll be off to Stoke or possibly Sunderland if he’s very lucky
Losing him is not catastrophic no stu, But losing him to citeh is asking to get bitch slapped.. With a powdered hand…
how not a
A deal bringing Onuoha this way wouldn’t be that bad, will certainly be better than bringing Richards!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1202712/Fulham-offer-double-Brede-Hangelands-wages-Arsenal-line-15m-bid-make-Kolo-Toures-replacement.html
Happy Birthday Geoff!
Toure leaving is not exactly the end of the world for Arsenal
my fear is we wont reinvest the ManCity provided kitty back in the team (emCee
)
if that is the case then we do have some serious financial problems.
so unless im wrong then fuck the board for lying to us and fuck the manager for playing ball with the board
i said unless im wrong….. so last paragraph is adjourned until September 1st 2009
Just because it isn’t bbk! Far from tall but they aren’t all midgets!
Man Onuha is absolutely shocking!
Man city signing Toure is a good move all round.
Good for Arsenal
His form has dipped since he had malaria, he is off to ANC during a crucial period and he is free from his contract next year.
Good for Toure
He gets a massive contract at city and regular playing time.
Good for City
They have a natural leader in defence, who has experience of wining games in Europe and the league.
el tel mate
no need to worry Huntelaar slow ?? all that mumbo jumbo about him playing in the dutch league..he is a proven top notch striker..and for thoose who seem to think otherwise ..wake up he has proven over and over again that he is a prolific goalscorer with that magic like f.ex romario had..
he is very succesfull playing for a national team that for over 20 years have been far better than good old England…and he isnt good enough for the premier league…what alot of rubbish…
tom
i think hankeyhead wants europa cup footy
And Malaria isn’t as bad a disease as you’re making it out to be, and you can recover fully from it. I just think he’s lost some of his pace and that’s cost him. Also he never had great heading ability, something that has been exploited by many in the past season.
You can’t really say for sure he will be partnering dunne.City could splash cash on another good CB.I don’t mind toure going its just that i am not sure whether we will use the funds properly.
Don’t worry Franchise, you ARE wrong
Randall isn’t even good enugh for derby county it seems…
Nigel Clough is continuing to search for a new midfielder after opting against taking Arsenal youngster Mark Randall to Derby on loan.
The Rams boss observed the 19-year-old’s playing style over the past few weeks as he linked up with the rest of County’s first-team squad for pre-season training. However Clough feels the he needs somebody with a more physical presence to enhance the competition for places in the side’s midfield engine room.
He told the Evening Telegraph: “We have decided not to pursue anything with Mark, we think we need a different sort of midfielder.
“We need somebody who is going to come in and really challenge the three central midfielders we already have in there.
“We have three very good players – Robbie Savage, Stephen Pearson and Paul Green – and arguably they have impressed as much as anybody in the last three or four weeks.”
nisanth there’s no way he’s partnering Dunne – City are selling Dunne….
A ive had my say about Kolo..
tom
Hangerland is average, Senderos would be a better option because we already ave him.
Get Juhasz in.
I know A.Was replying to what taig wrote
We are only selling the Players our Manager doesn’t want and even some fans don’t want. FFS people complain we should dump Greedy bollocks and Eboue then complain its weakened us.
Citeh our rivals, we will see about that, they are recruiting everyone elses second choice target for silly money. If we get 15 mill for Kolo then thats fantastic money.
We paid 15 Mill for Arshavin now thats good business.
He will sign players and we will be top 3 not top 4.
stop with e-mails
I’ll show you the dream team again (and I like the fact that the Huntelaar rumour has gone quiet as it has Arsenal written all over it):
Almunia
Sagna – Hangeland – Gallas – Clichy
- Cattermole -
Rosicky – Fabregas – Arshavin
RvP – Huntelaar
Bench:
Eduardo
Bendtner
Vela
Walcott
Ramsey
Vermaelen
Djourou
BBK i wouldn’t expect a positive prediction from you even if we signed Zapata and Alonso tomorrow!
You’d still find something to be negative about!
I think we will win the league this year. And if we are pipped by Liverpool then it will be 5 points or less.
Stick that in yer pipe BBK!
Randall is sooooooooo shit. Just fucking release him. I bet Wenger will play him in the CC next season so other clubs can spot him, just like Wenger did with shit Paul Rodgers and he fucked our CC up.
I’m with you on lets all laugh at Adecuntor when he comes to the Emirates!! We cant be banned from our season tickets for that either..
TAIG – Eduardo is better than Huntelaar 100%
Real Madrid are foolish for not keeping Huntelaar…
He is clinical in front of goal…just look at his goals to matches ratio and u’ll know…
Its upto Wenger to decide if he needs a striker..Which i think he should since we cant go into the season with only 3 out and out strikers and with a packed schedule like ours….
I’d much rather get someone like Pique, a youngish, tall and fast CB. Hangeland is too similar too Senderos in his playing style for us to spend 15m on him. He doesn’t make as many mistakes as Phil but that’s because he’s a regular starter for a defence minded team.
taig we obviously think completely differently about football, other ends of the spectrum!!
Hangeland and Cattermole – just no!! Cattermole I wouldn’t even have in my squad, denilson, song, diaby, ramsey would all start ahead of him for me!!
Huntelaar would be a decent addition to the squad, but not a regular, and not for silly money, so it won’t happen!!
too many forwards on the bench TAIG.. plus you haven’t included any of his love children denilson, song , diaby or eboue so that bench is totally wrong..
It’s most likely to be:
almunia
sagna gallas vermaelen clichy
Song
Walcott Fabregas Arshavin
Van Persie Eduardo
bench from: Fabianski, Gibbs, Denilson, Djourou, Diaby, Nikki B, Vela
–Yes i’ve left rosicky out, for obvious reasons…
Taig, a dream team with Lee fucking Cattermole and Almunia in it? Fucking ‘ell! Thats :shoch: ing
toure+adebayor=41million
Offer 41million+song+denilson+silvestre and try to get essien
DAMN IT! lets try that again
ing
good news yao ming signs for arsenal! he’ll be our new cb!
i hope im wrong A.
the truth goes a long way to maintaining relationships. Arsenal FC dont seem to take their fans seriously and wonder why the fans dont take them seriously attimes
my current position is wenger is not going to sign anyone. after the events of the last few seasons i expect he would be more proactive this summer.
he talked about the merits of new signings partaking in preseason and he hinted he would do the deals b4 austra camp.
Austria camp ends this week. we play 2 decent sides in emirates cup this weekend.
1. is he that unsure of his team that he needs to assess them this weekend?
2. is he cash strapped?
3. are we trying to raise cash for a £41m player?
4. is he denilson and song’s agent?
the only question i have an answer to is the no. 3. IMPOSSICANT
if matuidi is the target then did we need to raise $41m to sign him?
Spot on Tom.
Wouldn’t it be good to see him finish off those pesky 9 man defences and it would make a change to have a greedy bastard who actually shoots.
Nikki B, Eduardo, The Hunter. The three goalscorers with RVP,Arshavin,Vela and 4 a season Theo as back up.
Just a thought Theo is lightening quick but it doesn’t help him score goals YET.
we have got to be the most boring team to support when it comes to the transfer market
ardent in holland he had an amazing goalscoring record, but not as good as kezman or alfonso alves, scoring goals in holland doesn’t mean much.
He largely failed at Madrid, though good players have failed there too.
His record for Holland is good, though against international goals doesn’t mean that much either, look at people like David Healy.
He could score loads of goals and be an amazing player, but the point is he’s a long way away from being “proven”
Mayank – Malaria stays in your body FOREVER. It has no cure and can come back and bite you in the arse at any time. One of my friends has it and has suffered a couple of relapses. This is argument is hardly relevant I guess but just thought you should know.
A, we’d have to disagree on this one mate. I rate Onuoha a lot higher than Richards
I would rather take cattermole than denilson.Denilson offers us nothing.He can’t win headers.He will get bullied against most of the PL oppositions.He can’t really tackle and he is not quick.He needs to work on these attributes.Otherwise i can’t really him develop into a good player
Franchise Wenger basicaly said in an interview today he’s going to make signings, just doesn’t know when!
Selling before buying has NOTHING to do with money, it’s a case of having too many players in the squad!
wenger needs to go out and buy one of the top rated defenders and DMs in world football. Forget strikers – we have millions of strikers. Vela and Eduardo are already better than Huntelaar. why buy more strikers when defensively we are shit?
we have the money, and Arsenal are an attractive CL club. It really shouldn’t be that hard to get Zapata and Inler for example.
Does any one think here that Wenger is collecting money to buy Ribery…..
41million + 7 mill (from eboues sale) and (6 mill ) from Big phills sale…..
Could it be possible???
Chipo
No one says Hunterlaar is better than Eduardo but we need back up. If our front line is Eduardo and RVP then great but they won’t be fit all season and we will need a decent striker to help Nikki B.
I don’t rate either Man, but I’d rather Richards just because he’d be a better sub right back, as neither would be good enough as sub centre backs imo.
Denilson has got good workrate and can do an okay job.Never seen a great performance from him.Even song has had a couple of good performances for us.He needs to get stronger
A you cant say huntelaar failed at madrid ! 8 goals in 13 starts is an excellent record.
el tel..
agreed mate..with one small adjustment..to even think that theo will make it is wishful thinking…i like that youngster but he fell trough badly during em this summer and well …..?..
if he is anything at all like we presume he can be ..then he would have had a field day in that em…but,,,,
tom
wenger always says he would sign but is more skilled in sales.
Stekelenburg/Adler
Srna Gallas Vermaelen Clichy
Yaya
Fabregas Rosicky
RVP Eduardo Arshavin
Subs: Al/Fab, Juhasz, Gibbs, Song, Nasri, Bendtner, Vela
Treble winning team
yep taig but don’t the relapses subside completely either after an injection or something like that in a short period of time unlike the first time… i’m not sure but i read something similar to what you said in a magazine.
in other words , the relapses are nowhere as severe as the first time….
Wenger is not collecting 40m+ to sign someone, 20m of it is going towards interest payments so lets not raise our hopes to high!
Wenger will surely sign someone.I have no doubt about that now.Just hope it won’t be someone like matuidi.Should go for a really established midfielder with the money we have now.
A – its called a ‘dream team’, not a ‘reality team’ so it has nothing to do with what WILL happen. Cattermole is a better at DEFENDING in midfield than those you listed. We have enough talent going forward with players like Cesc, Arshavin and Rosicky so he doesn’t need to be Maradonna.
Stu – read above for Cattermole and with those players we’d have no money for a new Keeper.
AAAAAARGH! WTF IS THIS CLUB DOING!!
If you actually look at it though he did fail at Madrid Arse&Nose.
The stats say 8 goals in 13, but only one of them was a meaningful goal.
He scored 3 braces against shocking teams in big thrashings, and one single goal against a crap team in a thrashing as well. So he drew a blank on 8 starts and 7 sub appearances, and they really didn’t rate him in Madrid, or Spain in general, which is why none of the Spanish teams came in for him when he was made available by Madrid.
I thought he’d done well in Madrid too in terms of goalscoring, but just offloaded because of the inadequacies in his all round game, but in fact his goalscoring wasn’t great there either
Rohan – It all down to how quickly you catch it.
the onlyreason huntelaar didnt get more starts is because raul the king’s best mate can’t be dropped.
also, they didnt register him for the champs league and didnt play him in the big games.
in other words they have mistreated him slightly and hence he owuld jump at the chance to come to someone like us even though it would mean a pay cut not to mention he would be hungry to prove himself
Rohan – Like I said, its not a major issue, hence why its was bout 8th on the list of ‘pros’….
25 million is enough for what we need 15m for a good DM and 10m for a good cb cover for Gallas + verm.
A
Just like last night you demean the Dutch league yet again.
Scoring goals in Holland doesn’t mean much.
Well instead of picking just 2 players Kezman and Alves who probably chose the wrong Clubs look at the good strikers to come from that League.
DB10,RVP,The real Ronaldo,Horse features,Van Basten,Gullit,Kanu,Cruyff. There are many others and as someone said earlier since when has England had a better team than Holland.
Eduardo made a name in the Croatian League I suppose thats a bette rLeague than the Dutch League then.
I’d have to disagree there taig, imo Denilson, and Song are better than Cattermole at defending, Cattermole is a crap defender, he’s just a thug, doesn’t have a good reading of the game nor tackling technique and such like
I’m South African but I see no problem with Wenger letting go of a couple of Africans, this AFCON/January situation disrupts premiership teams with African player, Ade was a w@nker but Kolo at his best was one hell of a great player but has never been the same since the malaria bout. I honestly hope Eboue follows since he’s never been my favourite player with his constant cheating. Anyway it will be interesting to see what Wenger does in the transfer market. I hope he doesn’t wait till the last moment coz by then the team could be out of the champion’s league if he doesn’t strengthen. I would not mind Huntelaar and the fabled tough and tell defensive midfielder to bring some much wanted muscle in the team !
Im gonna make signings but i dont know when
unless he has agreed first option to sign a player or is that far in negotiations then he is planning to sign more kids
u dont approach the transfer maket with such approach if u want to sign proven and tested quality
A…
meaningful goal ?? ure shittin me right…or what the heck lets see how many meaningful goals did Pele score..??…this must be the most absurd thing i have ever heard…or how many meaningful goals did Almunia slip trough his gloves last year…or did Drogba score just meaningful goals..heey why dont we just count meaningful goals and give the f..k about all the rest..it could be a new thang ??
tom
A – Possibly a bit harsh on Huntelaar considering he had only been there about 4 months. 179 goals in 265 games holds more weight though.
el tel how can you not get this?!
I’m not saying that scoring goals in the Dutch league means a player is crap.
However scoring goals in the Dutch league doesn’t mean a player is good!!
You don’t have to be good to score goals in the Dutch League, people like Kezman and Alves have proved that. Just because good players have also scored goals in that league doesn’t mean that everyone who scores goals in that league is awesome!
A player is not proven to be good because of scoring goals in the Dutch League, it’s as simple as that.
U guys havent figured A out yet uh????
he is a tornado…… he can twist arguments like WO
play toure in the DM position, don’t sell him!!!!!!!!!
we all know wenger won’t replace him, well not with a better DM than we have anyways!!! and he is Mr. Arsenal
I don’t care about ACN, even if toure is 28 and on the downtrend, he is better than that turtle song!!
I honestly am beginning to doubt that we will sign a DM.
Look at the 3 pre-season games, wenger has gone for a new formation with 3 central midfielders and one roaming left winger/striker.
He may think that having Song and Denilson together will make up for the DM player we require. Also look at his comments in the most recent interview where he says he has so many CB’s that he is having to play them in midfield. This all points to Wenger trying to find a DM solution in house instead of spending on a DM.
His comments on a striker however are quite different, and I do believe that once again he is more focused on attack then defence.
The difference between Huntelaar and Kezman/Alves is that Hunt is a clinical finisher. Whereas the others are just good forwards, not finishers.
taig – Malaria ain’t that bad, its quite normal in the tropics actually. I know cos I’ve had it several times. Like most ailments people who live in these areas are ‘naturally better placed’ in dealing with the sickness. You get it, you feel like s**t but with the drugs/injections you would be in fine fettle in 2/3 weeks. Just like flu isn’t such a big deal in western countries, Malaria is on a similar level in the tropics…typhoid fever, AIDS, sleeping sickness etc are the really dangerous ailments in the tropics
tom whilst huntelaar was scoring his 8 goals the team were scoring 19 goals overall. He drew many blanks and most of his goals came when the team were scoring for fun against shocking opposition.
He might turn out to be a great player, but the point is he simply isn’t proven to be a top quality player, just because of those stats.
People can think he’s awesome all they like, I won’t disagree, but saying he’s awesome BECAUSE of his goalscoring stats, either in Holland or at Madrid is absolutely ridiculous because they mean very very little.
Im excited for 2010!
1. Our attacking line up is frightening
2. Wenger WILL sign at least two more players before september with 40mill in the kitty (defender and midfielder)
3. We’ve got rid of a lanky prick with an attitude problem
4. We have THE two most exciting player in the prem in Arsh and Fab
5. The amount of tallent coming through in our first team and under 18′s is rediculous!
Nicky B and Carlos Vela to do big things this year……watch this space
Fran, A is like that guy in the film “thank you for smoking”.
He doesnt have to prove he is right, jst prove that everyone else is wrong.
Owen got bombed out of Madrid too and he had a decent record with them. They are always chopping and changing. It didn’t stop the Mancscum giving him a go. You see they see Goals in him and goals win games.
No other Clubs in Spain came in for Hunterlaar because the only side better are Barca and they have the best strikers you can get. The other Clubs are inferior and probably skint too.
So ther Hunter scores against shit Teams, even better as it was the shit Teams we struggled with last year.
A – Yeah you are right, I hope we manage to fend off all of these bids coming in for Denilson and Song! The amount of times I have seen Song go for a tackle and completely miss it is amazing! Players literally walk through him. He is so dumb that he has no positional awareness on the pitch. I lost count of how many times Denilson ran to where Song should have been but wasn’t. Walcott said he is the least intelligent player at Arsenal! As for Denilson, his is a good passer but gets bullied against the likes of Essien and Mascherano. Its a non-contest. He’s far too light weight. We need a player that when the oppo see him know they are in for a tough afternoon. As a DM you need to do more than what Denilson does.
Arse&Nose i’m the opposite – I’m convinced that he’s planning to buy a DM from the things he’s said.
Just in the interview released today, he says about having 7 centre backs, and centre backs (plural) having to play in midfield. Seems he sees Song as a centre back, so has to sign a DM otherwise the only one is Denilson!
and re Owen i reckon he would score a few (15+) for United
1996 El Tel……I would say England are better today also.
Ray “Romford Pele” Parlour talks sense.. Just saw his interview on sky sports… He think’s we’ll still be top 4 just about if we don’t sign anyone, but if we can get in a striker, centre half and “TOP” centre midfielder we’ll be there or there abouts…
I’m not really overtly concerned about hunterlaar/cham-cack/giga-shite deals nor am i interested in hangelaad/zapata/sakho deals.. Unless Wenger can pull his head out of his arse and sign a top quality centre midfielder to partner Cesc on a regular basis it will mean nothing except having to put up with denilsong, diaby or a still very young Aaron Ramsey for the majority of the season…
Man – I know all of this and my point is made with what you said:
” You get it, you feel like s**t but with the drugs/injections you would be in fine fettle in 2/3 weeks.”
Franchise mate..
in real life its like this mate..if you think youre right about something you dont usually have to say it every 5th minute…but heey…who am i to tell..;) but to state that Huntelaar is not top notch well…..for me he is…:) and i just have a sneaky feeling that he also have the best record for goalscoring in the dutch national team..goal scored pr match played that is…and we should take in that the Dutch national team is amongst the best in the world which is far more than we can say about England im sorry to say…:)
tom
if anyone can guarantee that VP and Eduardo would play 80 games between them then we dont need a new forward
cheers taig.
noone knows how good huntelaar will be in the premier league and no one can predict that. after all, you don’t really want chamakh do you. huntelaar is a proven goalscorer in my books.. fine, the dutch league isnt an accurate indicator and as you say he only scored on a few of his starts in la liga but his international record speaks for itself. you don’t get to be the starting CF for the Oranje if you arent that good,.
Franchise – I hope not! we’re set to lose over £100k if he gets top scorer this year! Gulp!
Silvestre and Senderos, even Djorou can’t be counted as serious centre backs, they’ve never convinced. I hope Wenger is not counting Song as well, Wenger must buy a tall CD and CM and stop talking too much !!
el tel he scores against the crap teams when they’re being thrashed, not against the crap teams when madrid were struggling against them
taig i don’t think denilson nor song are the answer to our DM problem, but both just better than cattermole, who’s an absolutely ridiculous rumour imo. The fact that he was available last summer and went to Wigan, and that he had a season where Titus Bramble out-shon him in the Wigan side illustrates his level, he’s nowhere near good enough for us.
40 mil for 2 unfashionable players is a smart bit of business imo.. and we still have another month to bring some new faces to the table and new players can do wonders for the daily dressing room banter and create much more competition for places… so I’m sure that something will be lined up.. well I at least hope so!!
Ya and he’s taking Nisterlooy’s role in the dutch team…so he’s considered to be good ….
Rohan – Agreed.
Senderos has done very well in the prem before, and the champions league, and beein integral in our winning the fa cup, so i wouldn’t say he’s not convinced afrix. Obviously all three of them are counted in the 7 though, and i expect senderos to go
A = Arsene
You say guys on here are saying the Hunter is awesome. Who actually says that. I want a goalscorer not a fucking 100 metre sprint King who looks technically great.
Goals win games.
The thing is we all make a point but you just argue about everything.
Have you ever agreed with anyone on here?
well off …work have a great day all Grovers and Gooners alike..and A mate remember dont drink and drive
tom
i agree tom huntelaar is as high up there with eduardo in terms of finishing
he is also very good with his hold up play and is quite tall too
vela and nik might be ready to explode next season.
i just dont think any of our forwards are big game forwards
we just have to play more as a TEAM now. i also reckon that is fergies plan for UNited
A, you may be right there. There are two sides to every coin.
Loads of people are saying that el tel, people are claiming that he’s a “proven goalscorer” or “world class”, both of which are ridiculous.
I agree with people on here all the time, and people agree with me all the time. The thing is I’m not one to jump on bandwagons or salivate over the flavour of the month, so I do disagree with alot of people.
Eduardo is better than Huntelaar ad more clinical. A proved that. so its a fact!
Franchise again you don’t fail to amaze me, you are sure Owen will score 15+ for united but need a guarantee that VP and Edu will stay fit
A – Out shone by Bramble? You cant compare players from different positions, that’s silly. Especially when Bramble did have a good year. That means nothing. I guess its personal opinion as always. I’d rather Cattermole, you’d rather the shit we already have!
Wardo
You are right about 66 Team but I reckon they are better than us at the moment mate.
can Eduardo last the whole season? I still question his fitness and durability, same goes for for Rosicknote !
Kolo was one of Arshavin’s best mate in the team…awwwww poor Arsh
eddie is a far more complete striker than huntelaar.
A . I dont agree with you cause you’re a twat
only kidding mate !
Q’s to ask about Huntler….
1) is he better than Edu?
2) if no, do we need two Edu’s?
3) is he faster than Edu?
4) would he add something in the area that Edu doesn’t?
El tel…. i said 96 mate
….but did forget the
face at the end of we’re better now statement 
Eduardo’s goal ratio is pretty much level with Huntelaar’s. But that was before he suffered a broken left fibula and an open dislocation of his left ankle! Can we rely on him and likewise, RvP, whose fitness is always a big looming question mark?
If wenger is after a DM why is he wasting pre-season playing defenders in midfield? it is a waste of time and doesn’t help anyone!
I’m sure we will bring in some players but they will be last minute signings who take months to settle, by that time we could already be out of the title race.
Euardo is a great striker…but for god sake the guy just recoverd from a broken leg…Can he play in all 40 games…Wenger will surely rotate…and we need back up…plain and simple…so instead of just having a back up..we shoud have a good back up…and thats huntelaar…
A&N – I’m glad someone realises that!
wasn’t arshavin’s best mate bendtner ?
also, bendtner seems to be quite the popular guy in the team
Fran…Re Owen.
I have a sneaky feeling he’ll get 20+ goals this season……I think he may actually outshine berbatoss.
Not Rooney tho….I actually rate Rooney which is why I wanter AW to push the boat out and get Tevez…..both very similar
he’s MUCH slower than edu wardo, he doesn’t add much that edu doesn’t have, the only thing i’d say is the use of his weaker foot, but Eduardo’s all round game is far far superior.
Eduardo had a broken ankle, and has fixed that, he isn’t injury prone FFS!!!!
so if we sell The Pass Master (which I doubt after the Nasri injury) we can have quite a lot of cash to spend on players
Huntelaar will be a damn decent signing if we can recruit him… yes there are some good arguments against but his record as a goalscorer is 2nd to none! More importantly for me he will bring technique and vision and even speed of thought which will see any quality player adapt to the physical demands of the Prem! A lot of people had the same doubts about Arshavin but I always knew that we was going to be a success… these types of world class players must be signed if we want to step above the rest and be the best!
Its this simple when it comes to Huntelaar. First we need to get in players that are priorities like DM & CB. Then if there is enough money left over to facilitate the acquisition of Klaas would it be naive to ignore him and not give ourselves the best possible chance of goals in a season where our best strikers are injury prone?
FUCK THE BOARD !
that is all for now
A
I don’t jump on the bandwagon mate. I was calling for the Hunter when Madrid signed him and you can check that out on here.
I love Ajax they are my second Team as they always Coach their players to the highest level and most of them turn out to be very decent players. They are a selling Team which is very sad.
I think Wenger is copying the Ajax way personally.
I also know statistics can tell lies but generally they are right. I would love a player in our Team who would score against crap Teams or teams we are already beating.
How frustrating is it when we go in at half time a couople or more up only to see it go flat. Yesterday we were 4-0 up at half time and scored 1 more. I would love to see a greedy fucker take a Team like the Hungarians to the cleaners. The Mancscum do this.
Another worry for me is that the player I can see who was most similar to Huntelaar was Shevchenko, though he came to England at a different point of his career, and had maybe lost his desire.
Why don’t we see if Man City want Fabregas too?
Maybe they’d give us £30m for Arshavin?
We’d be, like, the best run team ever!!!
Amazing.
Arsene Wengker, what a cock.
Oh and put a tenner on Eduardo winning the golden boat this year, What with Arshavin and Cesc supplying him he will be a shoe in if he plays in most of the games !!
surely no way Eboue will stay now with both his best mates gone and chances of first team football dwindling. I bet he goes to Fiorentina. Song will need new friends!
Mayank good strikrs rely on service. owen is a great finisher who would score if he gets service something u an guarantee he would get at united. its not rocket science mate
eduardo unlike VP has had a healthy injury record for most of his career. he had a complex fracture and is likely to suffer muscular problems etc for a while, VP we all know about his injury record.
if we can get those tw to play 0 games between them then we would be fine. what dont u understand Mister???
for ur sake Arsene is GOD
Shoo in Chippy, not shoe!!
I’ve got money on bendy being top scorer this year, but only because the odds were absolutely ridiculous, not overly confident about it!
A – ‘Eduardo had a broken ankle, and has fixed that, he isn’t injury prone FFS!!!!’
That is so true, I dont know why it is assumed that the guy is injury prone.
Ooh, yes, we can sell Eboue too.
Who else can we sell?
Senderos?
Bendtner?
Almunia perhaps?
Have to keep Denilson though, so Wenger can try to prove his point, and we need to keep Silvestre, because he’s Arsene’s fucking bumchum.
Selling Toure to City? Wenger’s a complete fucking moron.
A – so we dont need two Edu’s then???
So, if we have Edu (who’s injury was very unfortunate and could have happened to anyone) fit and available then its better to have a diff style striker…ort even better, a top class CDM who can shoot also
Speaking of Shevchenko…he is gonna be brilliant this season. I have seen him in chavskis pre season games. He looks so fit and hungry to prove himself. And his hair is back to the way it was when he won the CL/Ballon d’or.
Im tipping Sheva to have a great season. ONe of my favourite players ever and im disgusted with what the chavs did to him.
Jimbo what the fuck you on about weve sold em one useless money grabbing cunt for well over the odds and it looks like weve sold em a player thats past his best and with a year on his contract for nigh on 16mill great business as long as its re invested,
Ps Toure was a superb profesional and good fella that i had the pleasure of meeting at Keowns testimonal dinner, and he gave my mate his bar pass as hes a non drinker Good Lad
**** if we can get those tw0 to play 80 games between them then we would be fine. what dont u understand Mister???
A i prefer Shoe
Dudu and Huntelaar obviously are both finishers but they both have the own individual styles so comparing them is silly when they both have their own strengths and weaknesses… one thing for certain is that we now need another world class striker to compete with Bendtner, Eduardo and VSP.. but obviously we also need a CB, DM and another right winger so maybe there are many priorities still we are unfortunately unable to recruit them all at once!
Great, Chippy.
and I suppose the fact that we’ve made a huge profit will mean they just let us into the Champions League automatically next year?
where do you get 80 games from Franchise?! why would they need to play 80 between them?!
I would be more concerned with RvP’s injury record than Eduardo’s! Robin has consistently had injuries whereas Eduardo has just had the one major set back. Would it be so bad to sign Huntelaar to fill any voids? For £16m you would surely think not?
Toure is a gentleman i have great respect for him
Fear not Taig. VP had his cursed wisdom teeth removed. His injuries are behind him.
Seriously what is wrong with Arsene Wenger?There is no way Arsenal can challenge anything if we dont buy players now.We need 2 or 3 quality players now,midfielder and striker.We had a larger squad last season and didnt win anything and now we’ve sold 2 first players and we expect to win something with a slimmer squad?Hmmmmmmmmm!
Wenger is sleeping,please wake up.Our dear club is sinking.Everyday when i wake up and check the football news same old rubbish news.
Wenger claimed that he has too many centre backs at his disposal at the moment and that Kolo Toure’s future will be sorted hopefully whatever way it goes in the next 24 hours.Wenger knows when to sell a player but in this particular case,we would be left with Gallas,(Senderos,Vermaelen,Silvestre and Djourou are promising but not there yet.I don’t know what to think anymore,I have faith in Arsene Wenger but next season is crucial for my dear club Arsenal.
Yeah i’d agree taig, vp is more of a fitness worry than eduardo, hopefully he’s over the regular problems though and he’ll be fit most of this season.
That’s exactly my point – we’d have to break our transfer record for Huntelaar, and we’d never do that for someone just to fill voids because of worries about other players fitness, or to add depth to the squad
I don’t mean to talk down to any individual here, but why on earth would anyone think we’re really in for Huntelaar?
Clueless Wenger needs to buy a midfielder or two, and now a defender as well, seeing as it looks like we’re playing with one main striker, and ‘wide forwards’ next season.
rvp’s injuries were down to his teeth – which he had pulled out
A….Fran is saying that if over the season they feature in 40 games together. That would be enough to have a decent impact…….what dont you understand mister
A IMO they are our best two forwards at the moment
we need them to feature in like 40 games each irrespective of if they play togeher or not if we are to stand a chance
Denislon played 51 games last season and started i think 50 of them. why is it a surprise that as a fan i want our 2 best forwards to feature in 80 games between them?
even gallas can score goals.. we need a big lump of a defender and a defensive mid first…
Stu – That’s alright then!
huntelaar is NOT an ajax academy product – he is a PSV and Heerenveenen ( spelling ?? ) graduate.
i just wanted to clarify that.
LOL Franchise, i was only pointing out how you’ve taken for granted that Owen with his injury record will be available to score those goals. Whereas our players VP, who played one game more than Owen and Edu who has got 18 months to recover from his injury are doubtful.
I can understand being cautious for your own team but being so posititve about other teams i just don’t get.
Jimbo – Kinda answered you’re own question there! It would be exactly like Wenger to sign a striker when we need a DM and a CB!
Yeah i know that wardo, but why on earth do we need them to feature in 40 games each?! All we’ve lost is ade, who played in 29 games last season! We’ve added arshavin, gotten eduardo back, and bendy and vela are continuing to develop so will need to play more games than they did last season, so we can’t afford those two to play 80 games between them, because it would mean other people playing much less!!
the more games u play the more likely u are to score
most championship winning sides have 2 players that score 40 plus goals between them with the others chipping in.
last season ade, vp and bendtner score 16, 15 and 20 respectively but none scored more than 10 league goals
Because franchise we have vp, arshavin, eduardo, bendy, theo, vela, and i want them all to feature and score goals, not just have two that play every game and the others barely play! There’ll be alot more rotation this year than we’re used to.
Fine so. VP 35, Eduardo 30 Bendtner Vela Theo Arshavin will play the rest.
I thougt Van Persie got 11 prem goals, Ade 10 and Bendtner 9. Im not too sure but i think…i THINK! that 11 is more than 10.
I think I might have to quit Le Grove until 1st Sep! I literally am all debated out! Unless A says something stupid in which case I’m always up for a challenge!
i don’t see where theo is going to get his starts this term….
vp scored 11 league goals franchise
Utd won the league last year with 18 goals from ronaldo, 12 from rooney,
we will score loads of goals this year, but i think they’ll be very shared out rather than one player standing out and scoring loads more than everyone else
A do u just want to argue for argument sake?
having arshavin who has never been a prolific scorer by the way and in no way should be directly fighting for a position with our forwards shouldnt stop eddie and vp from playing 40 games each?
adebayor with all his injury absences last season played 38 games overall. u should have known that that is what i meant cos there arent 40 league games a season
Jimbo – its interesting that you will let Toure live on past glories but according to you Wenger is a twat.
A – monkey see monkey do….it wasn;t my comment. It was Frans……
I honestly think the movement between, Rosicky, Eduardo, Nasri (when fit again), Cesc, Arshavin, Bentner, LJW, Vela and of course RVP will be pretty special.
Oh and you said the Cattermole is a thug, think we could let the above personel do their best to re create the Dutch total football whilst Cattermole goes around and kicks the crpa out of the opo when they have the ball…..
Just have a look at how Gary Neville use to kick people off the ball and immediately say sorry to avoid a booking….he looked clumsy but i bet you he meant every one of those kicks…….old rednose has since said he still regrets letting him go……cattermole to be the CDM !!
last year was an oddity A check previous seasons and u would get my point
…oh, and unfortunately, i did leave out Theo (that was hard), song and denilson in my last post. Theo does not have the movement off the ball yet……song and denilson well, they aren’t those type of players
Jimbo…cheer up dude. Wenger is no mug. Frustrating over the last year or two but give him some slack
hatrick
wardo,
Wenger’s had years of slack.
I see no reason to be happy, as he merrily sells off key players to a team that will almost certainly break into the top 4 in the next two years, and as things stand, probably take our spot.
It’s decisions like this that make me want to see him fired immediately, not 9 months down the line. He’s a moron, and has all the patience and slack he deserves.
with all the movement we had in 2007/08 season we ran out of gas
when the dust settles its the trusted names that deliver.
chelsea’s hopes are on their trusted goalscorers lamps, drog and anelka bagging in the goals. hoping the kalous and sturridges chip in
liverpools are on torres and gerrard. benitez is not banking on ngog scoring 20 league goals cos its just not going to happen. if possible they would inject an injured torres to play that is why they are first teamers
where is everyone……
he’s had two years max Jimbo. I know we haven’t won anything for 5 but, there is no guarantee that you will win something every year……..he deserves more from the Arsenal fans. The name calling is not needed and disrespectful…..imo of course.
Jimbo – Be fair now, if Citeh constantly double wages and overpay teams they’ll break the top 4 four anyway, you can hardly stop players from doing what anyone else would do given that position.
Fran we crumbled after Edu break……it must have been tough for the team to take that in their stride at such a young age…….dont want to get on his back cause he’s a gooid defender but, shame that Gallas being the oldest in the team that day did not use his experience to sort it out……
it makes sense to me biz wise and football wise the sale of toure will make us stronger, see the full story and picture before we judge…would prefer it wasn’t shitty but you gotta go where the money is
imagine going into season 2007/08 and saying hleb would score a few
when u have a striker with the finishing talent eduardo possesses u want him on the end of 90% of all ur chances
if hes fit no point risking someone inferior
actually i am pretty happy that ade has left and toure is leaving, if we don’t do anything with the money.. that is when i’ll be pissed…
It can’t be that wenger signs no one. He is under great pressure and with toure leaving it’s a must to buy.
wardo – the patience began when Wenger dismantled the invincibles. He’s had longer than any other manager at a ‘top’ club in the world would have had by an exponential amount.
I have absolutely no respect for a man who has absolutely no respect for the fans. He’s a fool, and that’s exactly what I call him.
what we missed most from edus break was the goals he could have brought to the table
i dont understand why A doesnt think its important that eduardo and vp are fit for at least 40 games each next season
u want ur first teamers (mostlyur best players) to make almost 50 apps a season and the sidekicks like 30 each all inlc subs. its not rocket science
If Wenger signs nobody, he’ll be gone by the end of the season. Every cloud, and all that…
Who thinks Rosicky has had a ‘slight set back”?
Jimbo….we were knocked out of the ECL in 2005 by PSV (i think). There was an investigation into how that happened and it was deemed that our midfield was too slow and not mobile enough. He changed things around and we went all the way to the final the next season……..
Its only recently that our midfield is not world class altho its seemed like ages……and that cause flamster, Diarra, Gilberto left……Wenger should only have let one go but, that is more likely to be the boards thought as it was money/contract related….
SO, really its only been two years
You have blinkers on……you’re too fickle. Grow a pair and support the team as a whole through thick and thin
Jimbo – Don’t you think thats a bit limited, considering how few managers at top clubs in the World have faced the same situation as he has done ?!
Hi!
First things first- Happy birthday Geoff! All the best for You. And thanks for this fantastic blog, where I was able to meet so many great people.
Ok, now back to football. We all know that Wenger won’t buy a striker. To be fair, he is right because we got Arshavin, Eddie, Vela, Robin, Bendy and Theo. As for defenders we all know that we do need one more. But don’t expect Zapata or Hangeland or Bruno Alves, Juhasz, etc, cos we all know that Wenger will count Song and Silvestre, so that does make 6 central def. We will probably buy Matiudi and that will be all. And if this scenario will take place, we will finish outside the top 4.
Paulinho raises a good point about Wenger assessing the need for replacements on the basis of pre season games.
He should use the last campaign as the main criteria for judging who should go and who we need to come in. Pre season friendlies only tell you fitness levels not how the squad will do against premier league opposition.
I still say I’ll give Wenger a bit more time before I decide if he’s botched up this transfer window, but when he comes out with stuff like “I’ll use the friendlies to assess who I need” he loses my trust bit by bit.
If we don’t use our transfer funds to strenghten our squad significantly then i think we can all agree that wenger has definately gone senile.
2001/2002 – 53 appearances
2002/2003 – 48
2003/2004 – 58
2004/2005 – 58
2005/2006 – 50
2006/2007 – 62
2007/2008 – 40
2008/2009 – 53
wonder why frank lampard is called chelsea’s mr reliable
Fickle wardo?
I’ve consistently wanted Wenger gone for 4 years.
It’s not ‘really’ been two years – even Wenger will tell you that his transition, and new way of managing began when he had to dismantle the invincibles.
And he’s done a spectacularly bad job. I honestly cannot wait for the day that he resigns, and I think it’s coming soon.
i agree chary. a bit more time
Franchise i agree, Edu and VP should play 55-60 league games b/w them, but it won’t be the end of the world if Nik starts 15 odd games or Vela for that matter. As for Arshavin i think playing behind the striker means he is competing with VP for that spot.
Is anybody here who thinks we will finish in top 4 this season,and top 6 next season???
as fabregas will be surely off if we dont won anything this season!!!
charybidis1966 – Considering the amount of injuries we’ve had over the past season or so, and also that any money we do spend will have to be used wisely, isnt it something that you would do to ? Or would you have gone out and bought all the players you thought you needed based on where we ended up in the league ?!
Wardo, We were knocked out by PSV in 2007 not 2005.
wih nasris break i reckon arsh would play LM. without the break i still expected him to play mostly LM in a 442 and in the hole in a 451
franchise i didn’t say it isn’t important that vp and eduardo are fit most of the season, i said it isn’t important that they play 40 games each, i was assuming you were meaning starting as well, which is why i said 29 for ade.
you don’t want first teamers playing that many games, because then fatigue sets in. With the squad that we’ve got now, everyone should be rotated up top, with vp, eduardo, arshavin, bendy, vela, theo all getting games so they all stay fresh. The first teamers as such will play more than the others, but there has to be rotation to stop people getting tired.
fran those stats are unbelievable… i didnt think he was that consistently injury-free.
for 4 years Jimbo ??? So, when you started this hatred of AW, we had pretty much just won the FA cup and we about to start a ECL campaign that would see us lose 2-1 in the final vs Barca and thats with bad luck……
mate, you have blikers on. You do think outside the box and consider all other elements.
I get frustrated also but calling for the bosses head is not the answer……unless of course you think we will get in another manager and give him 80mil to spend…..cause that is what it would take and I can tell you now, we do not have 80mil to spend…….in short, if Arsenal did what you wanted, we’d be completely fcuked
Lumpolard is the most consistent premiership player around.
I think it’s ridiculous that we are selling players at rate we are. This was supposed to be t he summer when we bought the 2 0r 3 players we required to make a title push. Arsenal seem to be about the money now and not the trophies
franchise i think we’ll be 4-5-1 much more than 4-4-2 this season, though ars could still play wide left, they’ll all have free roles!
Raisonar, we’ll finish in top 2 this season, mark my words.
Chary our squad for most of last season
Back5
Walcott-denilson-song/fab-nasri
RvP-Ade/nick
this season
Back5
Rosicky-Fab-Song/?-Arsh
RvP-Edu
I think to address issues based on last season would not be the best idea.
i’m with you there stunner, i think we’re on the way up and gonna keep getting better
Wenger, better be 101% sure he’s convinced we’re overstocked with ‘Centre halves & fullbacks’& alternate tough midfielders.
BETTER NOT GET IT WRONG
Because if he was angry at fans last year he’ll be in for fucking great shock this time !!
Yes, wardo, 4 years.
Because I haven’t believed in his ridiclous philosophy from day one, and as soon as it became obvious that he’d happily flog anyone without replacing them, I knew he was no longer fit to manage this club.
It’s not me that needs to think outside the box, really, as I’m not the one placated by the odd cup run, when it’s obvious that the general trend at Arsenal is on a steep downslope.
Wenger is a cancer at the heart of Arsenal now. He’s become so, ever since he lost his grip on what was really needed to compete in the modern game, and is thus now doing us mroe harm than good. He should be fired, the sooner the better.
gunners the stunner……thats why i said I think. Not sure who it was that knocked us out in 2005 but, thought they were dutch and it was the reason Pat Viera was sold at the end of the season and Cesc given the go ahead in CM……..it nearly worked.
My point is however, that Jimbo’s hatred for Arsene is bollocks……for 4 years !!!
Wardo – I don’t know how you can say it nearly worked, when we required a dodgy lasagne to finish 4th in 2005.
Wengers incompetence that year was mind-boggling, just as it continues to be now. Riding Thierry Henry to a CL Final doesn’t hie that.
The whole footballing world can see that we are becoming weaker by the day, all we need now are a couple of injuries to well and truley finish us off, what is wenger doing, he must have something up his sleeve, only time will tell, but my patience is running out.
from Day one Jimbo…so in 1996 ??
I am not happy with just a decent cup run but as I think and try and understand all elements, i come to the conclusion that the answer is not to sack wenger…maybe direct frustration at the board but AW is a good coach.
You on the other hand seem to think “we haven;t won, sack the manager”…….how stupid is that.
Thanks A, it’s not time to criticise the manager or the team. We’re definitely on our way to achieve something great this season. The team is playing like a unit and when you play like that throughout the season, it won’t be easy for other teams to break us.
your patience is just running out now jheez mine went two years ago
gunnergetyou that’s your opinion, in my opinion we’re becoming stronger and are in a very strong position this year to compete on all fronts, and people will be coming in as well
No, wardo, ‘day one’ would be the second I understood what he was trying to do to compete in the new era, and the astonishing disregard he had for things like depth, experience, and proven quality.
Why direct frustration at the board? The only crime they’ve really committed is to buy into Wenger’s bullshit for too long.
We have to sack the manager beacuse football is more competitive than ever, and Wenger is nowhere near up to the task of moving us forward.
“I am more focused on getting everybody fit for the start of the season but we are looking at opportunities as well, there are still some pre-season games to see what we really need.
“When the time comes we will do something.”
Thank fuck for that…
gunners the stunners
we will surely finish in top 2 by selling 2 players from our starting eleven who finished 4th,and then not replacing them.you gotta be kidding.
i think we’ll be mostly 442 that is why we need a natural olding DM cos denilson and song have forced wenger to play a 4231 n numerous occassions last season
in the past our 451 (2006 CL an example) was comprised of one DM 4 creative Central midfielders (ljunberg as a SS) and a CF (vavavoom)
now we are forced to play with 2
Wenger is not a cancer, that is a wholly pathetic way of looking at things, if Wenger leaves, and the board do not suddenly find the sums of money that Citeh will end up spending to break into the top 4, or no investor is brought in to take over the club, there is not a manager in World football that will be able to compete with the strength of the teams around us.
The only way we’d surivive as a club is if Wenger can somehow scrimp and save enough for the new manager to have something to spend, the teams around us can spend no more, or one of the investors takes over the club and invests heavily.
How can someone come to a different conclusion ? It’s embarrassing that people can think that, it’s like they’ve got some sort of blindspot that obscures the debt, new stadium, or the spending of other teams, from their recognition.
Truly shocking.
http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/24074/Arsenal_hero_Wenger_needs_to_replace_outgoing_stars.aspx
Raisonar wenger will replace them. You can’t see that!
Look at this Parlour says that wenger must buy another CB!
Yeah Stunners, I don’t base any opinion on pre season performances, because I don’t think they really mean much, but I really like the way the system we’re playing has been evolving, and the players we’ve got now to fit into it. As long as a decent DM comes in then we’re in a very very strong position imo and i’m very optimistic about this season
* holding
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Franchise we played with two DMs when Cesc was out, but the 4-2-3-1 we played after he came back wasn’t with two DMs, nor has the 4-2-3-1 been in pre season. I think that’s gonna be our stable formation, but 4-4-2 will still happen at times I’m sure.
Wenger will buy matuidi at 2359hours on the 31st of August
and we will all be out celebrating in the street!
And you really think Wenger is competing, Keyser?
That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard in a while.
He’s completely failed to take advantage of the funds he’s had, our priveliged position as a CL club, and the attraction we have in world football, and instead is using us as some fucking childish ego-project.
We will struggle to break back into the top 4 once we fall out, but unless we fire Wenger, that’s inevitable either this season or next season. He’s not remotely competent to deal with the new reality of football, and he’s flushing us down the toilet as a result.
keyser zzzzzzzzzzzz
if its for the stadium then wenger would have to manage us for another 16 years until the stadium is paid off
if we are in any financial difficulty its short term and it would be as a result of us trying to be property developers
So Jimbo – does that mean that you think that we were rolling in cash whilst the building project for the Emirates was being undertaken and ongoing ? Which is why we then undersold our biggest commercial opportunities (kit, shirt sponsor and ground)to whoever would put the most cash up front ?
thing is board is happy with AW weay of transfer activity…the way he runs…i’ve no issue with wenger on football pitch but this transfer market thing is quite fucking irritating
“I can’t have Arsenal fans thinking I am helping Tottenham in any way.”
what a leg-end
We’ve never had the Makalele type DM in the Wenger years and if we want to continue playing good football we won’t either. We just need a strong, tough tackling CM who’s priorities rest in defence rather than attack.
Keyser, there is mate, anyone can see two players and we’ll beat the world, anyone that is except for Wenger, why? because he refuses to see beyond his project.
Song and Denilson aren’t ready and we need a centre back that’s world class, Silvestre isn’t it, if he gets £40 million for Ade and Kolo and doesn’t strengthen the squad then there is something very wrong with him.
It’s so passé to suggest he is the only one. It getting beyond amusing now, it’s taking the piss.
If I meant that, Ryan L, that’s what I’d have said.
and then for example there is a new manager
either he will be told how much he can spend and what to say to media. board aint is group of suckers!! they know how to secure their interest
look how much time it took for ceo to get appointed!!!!
Jimbo, someone is accusing you of trolling in the spam filter… not really sure what that means… but I thought you should be aware that that’s the word on the street from the AKB’s…
Geoff Wenger’s offloading players because he’s gonna bring in those two players, and we’ll beat the world.
Wait and see
Raisonar, the two players leaving us you mentioned, one of them wasn’t good enough for a striker and Toure is still good but he is losing his touch. We have Eduardo & Rosicky back and we have played last 2 games without Fab4, Gibbs & Theo and still managed to score 12 goals. I am 110% sure, we’ll do great this season and you’ll see that too, my friend.
its gonna be 442 A
wenger doesnt like 451 from what ive been able to gather from his comments. its just that his midfield is lightweight. in the past when it neccessitated mostly in the CL it was a case of hleb moving from RM to SS and the 2nd striker being on the bench as only one was needed, eboue or theo playing RM
b4 that it was ljunberg moving into midfield as a AM/SS with reyes or pires LM, hleb RM and henry upfront
last season was denilson, song and cesc as AM.it didnt work any wonders at all
pedro that would be some bel-end from the other side
i have a feeling we won’t sign anyone until after the champion leageu qualifiers…. huntelaar etc. probably aren’t too confident in us making it through.
Jimbo – Have you actually read any of the stuff you write ?! What’s competing for you ?!
There goes the blind spot again, bar United, who were far more productive from before Wenger even took over, teams haven’t just used Champions League money or tv revenue have they, I mean how does that not register with you ? It’s like you completely gloss over it and ignore it.
It’s something you just don’t want to acknowledge because it makes whatever you’re saying embarrassing frankly.
At the moment the products of his ego are keeping us in the top 4 and also fuckwits like O’neill not being to manage teams.
Arsenal star Andrey Arshavin, Chelsea new boy Yuri Zhirkov and Tottenham Hotspur striker Roman Pavlyuchenko have all been called up by Russia manager Guus Hiddink for a friendly match in Moscow against Argentina on August 12th. The match, which is scheduled to be played three days before the start of the Premier League season is likely to cause consternation amongst Arsene Wenger, Carlo Ancelotti and Harry Redknapp who will all want their players fit and ready for domestic duty.
20-man Russia squad for a friendly with Argentina in Moscow on Aug. 12:
while we knock our heads together, i can swear that Arsene and the Board are ok with 4th place and selling to whoever brings Arab Money
Jimbo,
The board are the cancer at the heart of the club. They are the ones giving Wenger a non existent budget, and asking him to sell stars to raise cash.
Wenger has made many mistakes, but he cant spend money the board wont give him.
dutchman
i know wenger will replace them,but with whom is the question.what i feared is that he is having huge money shortage,so he could end up buying another silvestre.
i dont hiddink so gus arsh stays here feck russia
Franchise – Mate, read wat I wrote, and try again.
Do you guys really think wenger will not buy some one because of that he do not buy many players. Of course he will buy players with this money but Now, you guys say: But wenger will not spend it” Yes he will. MARK MY WORDS!!
Jimbo, the problem with Wenger is only one. His ego. He always needed just one or two players more to add. For example in 2007-2008 season when we have been flaying and in january he refused to strenghten the squad. He missed out on Woodgate, he hasn’t bring another midfielder and we all know how it finished.
In 2004 he refused to sign another quality central defender and a midfielder in seven days we have lost 2 games against MU and Chelsea, and have lost a chance to win a treble( FA CUP, CL, League). He always has to prove everyone wrong.
Jimbo……the thing is, other managers spend more than us but never have beat us to a top 4 posn. IF and I mean a big IF, there is money then you do have a point (very strong one but I understand) but, I would still rather see wenger spend the money than sack him…….
…..and I have said this loads and loads and loads and loads and loads and loads and loads and loads and loads of times, IF WE DO NOT HAVE THAT MUCH CASH AVAILABLE, then you must see that your argument would drop us right in the shit!
think thats where we disagree…..
Nah I reckon 4-4-2 was the old system Franchise, with Theo, Arshavin, Vela, Nasri, Rosicky, our players are much more suited to 4-2-3-1. We’ve played 3 pre season games and played that in all of them too. It isn’t the same type of 4-5-1 as in the champs league previously, nor the same as when Cesc was out.
4-2-3-1 either with the three attacking mids rotating, or the barca system with the front three rotating is what I expect, and what we’ve seen in pre season thus far.
ade, kolo, eboue, silvestra and senderos out…
mata, richards, haargeland, matudi in….
i would take that
Keyser,
Competing looks like 1998 – 2005.
Not competing looks like 2005 – Present day.
Pretty obvious difference, no?
As for Wenger, he’s not even spending the money he has. Why give him any leeway for not having the resources of other clubs, when he’s too incmopetent to use what he’s got?
Geoff – Yeah it is taking the piss isn’t it, you obviosly think far more of Wenger than any AKB ever could, so every other team spends hundreds of millions on players, but all we need is one or two and somehow Wenger should be able to find them ?!
In my own personal opinion, if Wenger is sacked/leaves within the next 12 months, we will be MUCH worse off than we are now, and will definitely fall out the top 4 and won’t come back for a while.
Obviously I could be wrong (and I hope I am), but that is how I feel about the matter.
raisonar do you think that we not have much money?
we have never had a makalele type player but we have had someone very similar in Gilberto who was signed after 2002 world cup nicknamed the invisible wall cos he was very good in protecting the back 4 as the cliche goes. u watch an arsenal team with gilberto in it and u just know 100% straightaway that he is the sitter in midfield, the holding player. something we desperately need IMO. wenger knows we need this kind of player with immense quality on the top of their game hence why he is trying a CB in senderos hoping that the he would prove appropriate and save us some more cash for the double glazing project in highbury square
Jimbo – There goes your mental block again, fuck me, how hard is to it to recognise whats happened in the premiership in those years since 2005, Citeh spend their way to the top 4, but somehow Wenger and any other manager in the world should be able to compete with a pittance in comparison, it’s completely idiotic, a paradox, it’sa concept you wanted see on Eastenders.
i trust wenger to do what is needed this summer so lets chill the fuck out and see whats gone on by the time we go scouse land…..if its all doom and gloom then lets worry
A, I did not base my opinion on pre-season. These are just practice games but I’m talking about the team playing like a unit and also enjoying it. I remember last year’s pre-season where I didn’t see any of them playing seriously which they’re doing this season.
our players are suited to any system A. we attack better in a 442 and wenger has even said this in an interview recently. the only reason we play 451 is to keep things tight for the opponet but we are still cut open like hot knife through butter. it didnt stop chelsea, villareal away and mancs from humiliating us when we played it. wenger hates 451 believe me
- wanted, + wouldn’t
A – your theory only that we will be stronger this season depends on wenger spending, which going by experiance is not a guarantee.
With Kolo Toure close to joining Manchester City for a reported fee of £16 million, Arsenal will no doubt need to bring a new defender to the Emirates in the coming weeks.
One man who has been strongly linked with a move to Arsenal is Fulham defender Brede Hangeland. The Norwegian international was one of the Premier League’s top performers last season earning some high praise from Fulham boss Roy Hodgson.
The 28-year old has been offered a new deal at Craven Cottage, however it is believed Hangeland is waiting to see if any offers come in for him and it is now understood that Arsene Wenger is weighing up a possible £9 million bid.
Roy Hodgson has always maintained that he would never stand in Hangeland’s way if he wanted to join a bigger club. I would be a little bit surprised to still see Hangeland wearing the white of Fulham next season. There is no doubt he is one of the best defenders in the league and I feel should he sign for the Gunners, he would prove a massive success.
dutchman
we all can see 40m in front of our eyes,but the point is what part of it is being allocated to transfer,which i think is much less than 40m.
Where does Hangeland play: RCB or LCB ?
Van Persie,Gallas,Rosicky and Eduardo are all good players but we can not rely on them simple because they are not injury free.Please Wenger 2 more players
where his told!!!!
the fans need to stay behind the club and wenger this season. last season the negative feeling and the booing really hindered Arsenal. the players did not feel good because the fans were very negative.
they said they had to sell to buy so please dont all fly off the handle just because we chucked city a couple of dud players. City will do fuck all this season. If they finally get above one year, it wont be down Toure and Ade. sure wenger needs to strengthen the team but give him a chance.
come back here on 1 Sep and then start your moan but for now please stay behind the team.
my dream 451 formation would be
………………..GK……………………
Sagna…….Gallas………Verm………Clichy
…………..Beast from the East…………..
………………..Cesc……………………
Nasri……………………………..Rosicky
………………..Arshavin…………………
…………………Eduardo………………….
i dont see VP being on the bench if fit so i reckon Nasri or Rosicky would be on the bench and Arsh plays on the left with VP and Eddie as forwards or anyother forward combo
gazzap im with you but if the shit hits the fan…i will say wengers a cunt the loudest
The post mentioned fear about Eduardo’s team play…
Fear not…hes MUCH better at linking play that any of our other strikers…you probably jsut forgot.
ALthough i will say something is different about Eduardo after coming back…he seems angrier. I would be too, but I hope he doesnt let it negatively affect his play
i don’t think you can blame wenger ENTIRELY for the mess we are in… i think that there is defo something fishy going on with the board regarding the financial aspect of thing… i wouldnt be surprised to hear something along the lines of a scam or some sort of money laundering scheme going on…
we have a very glistering squad.and are only 2 signings away from challenging for a trophy,but why cant wenger see this.by all means he should have bought that dm before our preseason games,but he didnt.we have a most imp game of this season on 18/19 august,i think our squad should be ready by that time
Franchise that interview wasn’t recently, it was ages ago, and it was when he said “”We started in a 4-4-2,” said Wenger. “I think it looked more threatening and we looked more comfortable. But when you play Walcott on the right you play more 4-3-1-2 anyway. He is a winger not a midfielder so you have to balance the side to be a bit more defensive.”
Arshavin, theo, vela, are neither wide men in 4-4-2, nor forwards, nasri and rosicky are neither wide men, nor centre mids in 4-4-2, both work better centrally but have to play in a more advanced role that doesn’t exist in 4-4-2, but does in 4-2-3-1.
We played 4-2-3-1 after Cesc returned in probably 3/4 of games last season, and have played it in all three of our pre season games to date, and it’s gonna continue!!
gunnergetyou no it doesn’t depend on wenger spending, imo we’re stronger already, but will be even stronger when wenger spends, and he will spend, as he said in the post match interview after last night!
the booing made bendtner and eboue step up IMO
there is a time for every. a time to cheer and a time to boo
or just express discontentment
im not a programmed zombie.
Jimbo, you said that you made your conclusions on what Wenger was doing from 4 years ago – well 4 years ago we were in the midst of the stadium project, so at that point are you saying Wenger had a choice ? If you are saying he did have a choice then by default you are suggesting he had money to play with, no ? All I said is, if that is the case and you think we did have money at that time, then why do you think we undersold our commercial opportunities at that time ?
imo the booing set bendtner back, and if the crowd had supported him he would have put in the same performances earlier at home, as he was doing away from home where our fans didn’t abuse him.
Franchise, booing never helps any one. I refuse to believe that being booed makes you ‘step up’.
My dream 4-3-2-1 formation would be:
………………….GK……………….
Sagna……Hangeland/CB…..Gallas…….Clichy
………………….DM…………………….
………..Fabregas………Rosicky/Nasri……..
….van Persie………………Arshavin………
……………….Eduardo…………………..
eastcamp swap eduardo and vp and i’d agree with you, apart from gallas right and vermaelen left, hangeland can fuck off
On 31st of August it will be the same story as usual. He will make a bid for Hangeland or Inler, which will be rejested as our offer will be 2 milion short of being accepted.Same old, same old….
I think the turning point for Bendtner was that game where even though Bendtner struggled to score, he worked his aSs off for the team, Blackburn I think.
The crowd cheered him off despite the programmed zombies who were booing.
*rejected
keyser and thats what we wont from wenger to see his trying or tried to do the best for our team if we finish 4th but he brought the players the squad needed what more can he do!!!
Ryan / Keyser…..that is what I meant about the blinkers and that there are other elements that Jimbo misses…….sorry Jombo, but altho you’re nice fella, I’m never gonna agree with you…you just seem to miss out 2/3 huge factors in your argument.
I’m gonna leave our argument there for today cause we’ve gone full circle.
A, can see your Gallas/Vermaelen combo, but don’t understand the RVP/Eduardo swap as Eduardo is a real center forward and RVP isn’t (he also plays on the right for Holland) ?
Typical from u A take the bit that suits ur argument
full article
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-fitness-test-set-our-formation
Wenger – Fitness test set our formation
By Richard Clarke
Arsène Wenger will await the result of fitness tests before deciding on his formation for the Champions League Semi-Final second leg against Manchester United on Tuesday.
The Arsenal manager employed a 4-2-3-1 at Old Trafford last week. It did not work, the visitors barely got their game going offensively. They have to score twice at Emirates Stadium so, with Eduardo (groin) ruled out, Wenger could do with Robin van Persie recovering from his own groin problem. However it will be a late call. The Arsenal manager suggested he would be happy to wait until the morning of the match and a positive outcome may mean a switch to 4-4-2.
“Why not?” Wenger said. “But it will depend also on who is available.”
The traditional formation worked wonders at Fratton Park at the weekend. A brace from Nicklas Bendtner put them in control before half-time. Another from Carlos Vela just before the hour killed off any chance of a comeback.
“We started in a 4-4-2,” said Wenger. “I think it looked more threatening and we looked more comfortable. But when you play Walcott on the right you play more 4-3-1-2 anyway. He is a winger not a midfielder so you have to balance the side to be a bit more defensive.
“Also, if Fabregas plays behind the striker, the striker looks to be a little isolated so you have to get the balance of the team right.
“No matter who starts, what is important is that everybody is focused so they can come on and help the team to qualify.
“That’s what we have to produce on Tuesday night – the game worthy of a Semi-Final. We have to make it hard for them.”
a 442 with walcott is more like a 4312 doesnt mean that a 442 without walcott isnt a 442
Yep Keyser, that was the game – I have never been sickened so much, to hear certain fans boo him off. We were 2 up he had worked his socks off and his movement that day was exceptional – his finishing was off yep, but the rest of his game that day was right up there. But unfortunately there was the presence of a myopic minority.
Keyser…..vs Roma at home, Bentner was replaced with Vela…..bentner actually mixed his runs up and had their RM and RB troubled……when Vela came on, he hugged the touchline and you could see everytime he received the ball, the RM stood off him and the RB blocked any run down the line……maybe its cause Bentner is R footed and Vela left but, Bentner was better in that game than Vela………and before anyone says it, I like Vela and think he will be excellent as a striker
the only way supporters can express their dissatisfaction for their team is by booing. hate it or love it. even at anfield it has happened. its normally a rarity that happens after several hours of suffering in silence. when fans start to boo their team then it means that the team is doing too many things wrong
newcastle fans rightly booed their expensive flops. u cant take it away from their exceptional fans but thre is so much emotion a human can stomach
Yes it does Franchise, just as theo AND arshavin would be 4-2-2-2. it’s why 4-2-3-1 suits us better, but anyways, no point arguing about it now, just have to wait and see! We’ve so far played 3 pre season games and played 4-2-3-1 everytime!
I didn’t choose the bit that suits my argument, the bit i quoted backs up up your argument, and was the only real relevant bit!
eastcamp it’s because eduardo will score goals from out wide, and vp slows down the play a bit when he plays deeper. Been saying it for a while but also yesterday VP played through the middle when he came one, eduardo out wide left first half with Bendy central, and wide left second half with vp central. Eduardo has more pace than vp too which is why he’s more useful out wide, vp is a bit slow to be really effective there
Fran…fans can sing the song of the best player(s) they dont have to boo…….Arsenal fans were considered by loads of players to be fair and supportive towards players that were not cutting it during a period at Arsenal. One v good example is Henry…..since those players have left they have had nothing but great things to say about Arsenal….I fear that will not happen in future and may put a top player off of player for the Gooners……..i know we haven;t signed loads of top top players recently but you get my gist dont you?
no they don’t franchise – newcastle fans have actually got loads of stick for not booing!! People saying they’re too passive!!
Booing during matches can do nothing apart from damage the confidence of players, it can achieve absolutely nothing positive. By all means boo at the end of games, but booing specific players when they’re on the ball, or when their name is read out before the start of matches is completely and utterly counterproductive and can achieve nothing whatsoever positive.
Nick – Thats one thing, but then people talk about ambition and the need for Arsenal to compete.
How can that fall solely on Wenger’s shoulders, people constantly say he’s a fool, an idiot, or a moron for not spending the money he has and then go on to say they fully expect us to win things/ compete/ or challnege if he did ?!
So he’s this myopic idiot that should be sacked immediately for not spending the money we have, but also the only manager in World football where the fans expect him to compete with a fraction of the money his competitors spend ?!
wenger for a while has preferred his wide players in a 442 to be CM. walcott seems to be an exception and according to earlier statement by wenger he is there to develop his dribbling and link up play b4 he is moved to his natural CF position.
Fran….and NEwcastle fans think they ar ethe best fans in GB.
They aren’t! they just moan their sorry little cold georgie asses off constantly
With what we have:
Almunia
sagna gallas verm clichy
…..song…senderos…
…….fab……
rvp….edu.. arsh
A 442 is 442 u either have 2 strikers or u dont
451 is 451 u either have 1 striker or u dont
we actually play 4-1-1/2-1/2-1-1-1-1
Nordveit to Nurnberg on loan for the season.
Good stuff, have high hopes for that lad, by the time he returns at 20 he should be ready to start fighting for a place.
I think of booing this way. Would you boo a member of your family who’s out there on the pitch? Assuming the sane answer is ‘No’, then I feel if you call yourself an Arsenal supporter, you don’t boo when they’re out on the pitch.
Like the problems and issues within families, these things are solved in the privacy of our own blogs or pubs.
keyser i think most fans like the fact wenger buys great players not names but lately he aint even done that for the 1st team in areas like dcm when its obviously needed.
No one wants him him to break the club on one player but acknowledge the need for x player
arsenal only booed eboue during a match
most of the other booing was after the game
from my experience last season bendtner was greeted with sacrastic cheers when he was coming on rather than boos
i never experienced him being booed
eboue was playing like a tottenham spy that is why he got booed
and newcastle fans did boo on the final day
boo the team as a whole, but i don’t think one should single out a player and boo him. that is just distasteful and detrimental in whatever way you look at it.
Fran, no idea if you were there for that game but Bendtner was definitely booed as he was subbed late on in the game against Blackburn – it was a minority and a fucking dumb one at that, but he was definitely booed.
family? if u have a bunch of overpaid footballers not giving their all on the pitch i believe u reserve the right to boo them off. fans are easy to please unlike a lot reckon. give ur all in the red and white and become a legend u dont have to be as skillful as thierry henry ask ray parlour
booing during the game is distracting though. i would rather a team that deserves to be booed get boed after the game
fran good call mate, JUST FUCKING try thats all we ask give a fuck LIKE US THE FANS
to watch us lose hurts but when we have given our all and lose it doesn’t hurt as bad, or make x player a scape goat
So why not support a football club full of guys making less than you, if that pay disparity is rubbing you the right way? When I’m watching a match, I’m not thinking of their wages and I’m assuming the players aren’t either.
When Eboue was booed, for example, it was not as if he was failing to try. He had a horrendous go of it out on the pitch and it made the lot of us groan. Booing him off the pitch is just not the way a true supporter goes about supporting the club.
i don’t think you can say anyone other than perhaps adebayor didnt have arsenal’s best interests at heart… bendtner has the best work rate out of our whole team.
jsut my humble opinion.
eboue was always seen as petulant and unprofessional by many fans b4 booing gate. i reckon that was why thefans turned on him that badly. nicklas won back over many fans by his increased work rate not his goals. that sincerity u get on the pitch from players like kolo and gilberto goes a long way. u know they would always give 110% like the Yanks say
franchise the booing of bendy was during the match the whole time!! he was getting booed when his name was read out, then when he came on as sub, then everytime he touched the ball! it was ridiculous!
The booing is almost all during the match, because the majority of it is aimed at specific players, rather than the whole team
Nick – Most fans keep a foot in reality and know the position we’re at, some use the blog to vent their frustrations, but then there’s some things that people say and constantly repeat, when you think ‘Eh ? Wtf is he on about ?’
It’s just not as simple as it used to be, we might need a player, Wenger will know we need him, but going out and getting him after having considered everything is completely different.
Football’s more and more about money, everything is focused on it, no matter how much Wenger has to spend, unless he’s got as much as the teams around us, I’d trust him to work his way around it, soon though there might be a point where we’re just going to have to rely on Kreonke or Usmanov to bank roll us.
PW if u dont get my point then i wonder for u
Nick its a great point that you make – but its also quite telling that the 2 most high profile incidents of player booing last sesson – were in games we actually won !! Fickle anyone ?? lol
it looking more and more likely that toure is going,mixed feelings he has an exceptional loyal servant for arsenal and although he not beeen his best last few seasons no one can but ever question that,but he has lost his edge that x factor he had when he was playing sole cambell that has gone,also i dont think has felt apprechiated,gallas came in on better money and wenger passed him over captain,and there no secret that gallas/toure hate each other,i just think he needs a fesh start, bottom line toure is type of defender we need right now a big ungly defender has been needed for at laest 3-4 seasons,also the questioning that our spine in midfield is the strongest i sure song can to fill in job but he clearly not the answer snd wenger is fully awear of that i am sure
Ryan L – heh, good point.
franchsie say you were in bendtner’s place and the crowd started booing you whenever you touched the ball, when your name was called out etc. just because you missed a couple of sitters. all this time, you have put your head down, working hard nad running your socks off.
How would you feel, both during and after the game ?
booing in no way helps any player.
A u wrong about Bendy there. there was a period bendy was very un popular with thefans but he wasnt booed that consistently.
go to any stadium and fans react to certain things similarly
misplaced high percentage pass, sloppiness, missed sitter etc there is normally a synchronised jeer if i may use that word
‘uh’ ‘what’
it might sound like a boo on TV but its not. they are different
keyser then he should come out and say we went for x but his a greedy cunt or he failed his medical coz his a coke head
…you get what i mean he should be a bit more vocal in his thinking and dealing then he cant be misinterpreted i dont doubt wenger and believe his the man for the job still but can see why some are losing faith
PW…… and in case u wanted to know im already supporting a team where i earn more than the players
ryan eboue did his best to stop the win though
I’ll bite my tongue and refrain from further comment.
(CNN — Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has confirmed that experienced central defender Kolo Toure is set to leave the English Premier League club as talks continue over a possible move to Manchester City.
Toure is the final member of Arsenal’s 2004 Premier League title-winning squad still at the club.
Ivory Coast international Toure, who played for Arsenal in a pre-season friendly in Hungary on Monday, is the latest player being lured to big-spending City, with a £15 million ($25m) transfer set to be completed by the end of the week.
Wenger admitted to the club’s in-house TV station that a deal was looking immenent.
“Nothing is decided yet. We have seven center-backs and I am in the position where I have to play some in midfield.
“But of course Kolo is a very good player and we will see what will happen in the next 24 hours.
Nick – Come on, today’s media would still spin it, even a ‘No comment’ supposedly tells all like John Terry’s silence and so on.
It’s just the way it is, unless you’re a complete cunt to everyone, and I doubt Wenger could be even if he tried.
weve done this one b4 and several ppl that attend games confirmed that bendy wasnt booed as bad as some claim he was. there are several in the stadium that are quite vocal about their opinions and re bendtner i know i have sat around ppl saying he was shit etc but they didnt boo. funny thing is i never boo but i would have if i attended the CL semi last season
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sometimes the reactions from fans is just as a result of shock.
remember bendys bouble miss against burnley the second was an empty goal unbeliavable
i wouldnt have been surprised if i said FUCK
kolo is a legend, and sad to see him go, unless wenger has hangeland up his sleeve i will be pissed
if we do get hangeland it will be good business, as he is at a good age, premier league experinced and a monster in the air as well as been good with the ball
BUT THE QUESTION IS WILL WE
we do have many CBs but there are 5 others id rather see sold then to lose kolo
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‘Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has confirmed that experienced central defender Kolo Toure is set to leave the English Premier League club’
“Nothing is decided yet..”
Happy Birthday Geoff.
I would have snapped the hand off anyone offering 16+m for Kolo Toure at the start of the summer. It is a great price for a player that has sadly dipped in form since the last ANC. He has always put in the effort though so I will wish him well, and good luck to him on getting this monster pay day.
However, this is only a good move for us, if he is replaced. I dont buy this we have 7 CB’s rubbish. Toure was his 1st choice last year so to sell him means that we have to replace him. Otherwise we are making the Vieira/Flamini mistake all over again in that we are selling 1st choice to play 3/4/5th choice instead……Sorry but that make us weaker not stronger.
I would get Hangeland in but get him to fight for his place with Senderos, and have Djourou, Gallas and Vermaelen fighting for the other one. It is good depth.
But we still need that DM, and whilst Wenger has hinted at further signings, I still get the cry wolf feeling. He said that last year. Why wait, the season starts in a few weeks, we need players now, not after a few tricky games to save a few bucks in wages.
This is judgement summer for Arsenal and Arsene. We will have 40+ in the bank, so not to re-invest a large percentage of that money and end up with another awful season with no realistic challenge is one season too far. He gambled and lost last summer, to do it again is unnaceptable, even for the great man
keyser point taken but we do have our own propergander channel we could have a arsen 15mins once a week where he gives his honest view
ie keeeeno
Franchise I am a season ticket holder sitting in Block 101 and trust me there was definitely a section of morons that booed Bendtner in that game against Blackburn.
pat, spot on…
To be honest this hangelaand deal i do not care about unless we are letting go of senderos.. As for the striker stories of hunterlaar and cham-cack, again don’t really care..
Unless we sign a top, top class centre midfielder with the majority of the 40m, then we can just forget any title/trophy challenge and look forward to a rotation between denilsong and a very, very young and inexperienced Aaron ramsey and at worst a bambi in headlights named Diaby…
Nick – you are right about Eboue in that game against Wigan – but then again I never said he wasnt shit !!
Zapata is the beast of a CB which I would like to see in an Arsenal shirt… Hangeland had an impressive 1st season in the Prem but he’s getting towards 30 (which never favours defenders) and won’t join us because he’s staying loyal to Fulham! So what other alternatives are there?
Nick – Didn’t he have to apologise or something, and he didn’t last long after that.
Thing is we’re paid huge amounts of money to give those interviews and since we’re not at the top of the pile, Wenger can’t afford to take the piss like Fergus, we’re pretty much going to have to accept it.
At least I think with the Arsenal Online interview about Toure, the likes of Sky probably have to pay for the privilege of using the comments.
kolo needs replacing
gallas is class
silvestre aint
djourou has yet to prove he is the answer
song has played only a handfull of games at CB
senderos ??????????????
vermalen ??????????????
we need a top defender and without one we will be conceeding goals like last year, especially if we have denilson infront of that defence, and not a new DM
ryan there are some morons but they are in little pockets
i know ive heard ppl say stuff like ‘get him off’ etc but eboue’s booing was more explicit
now that wenger is set to get rid of the last remaining invincible, maybe he has a cunning masterplan to re-create the next generation of invincibles, the foundations are already there all he has to do now is spend. I am demanding 2 new signings at the very least.
MARK you are right but at least we have options.. gallas is a starter 9/10 and i’m sure the 10m spent on Vermaelen pretty much means in Arsene’s currency that he won’t be sitting on the bench.. Then there are the options of Djourou, Senderos, Song & Silvestre.. Unless we offload another centre half I do not think we will be signing a central defender..
As for no need for a DM/CM/Whatever? If we go into the season with Cesc and 1 of Denilsong, Ramsey & Diaby it will not bode very well at all… None of those players are arsenal first XI class.. In the case of Ramsey I have been encouraged from what i’ve seen pre-season, but the same can be said of Wilshire and it is against team my pub team would spank…
The 1st priority is a top class centre mid.. Anything else is just to make sure we have enough options..
senderos and JD were having good run of games and were dropped when fit player returned so with toure going maybe we will see the best defenders not best known names on the pitch re flamini
catch u l8r gunners
im off laters
i think cb is a tricky situation we have best defender who will leaving next season no matter what,looks toure is gone,but our worst defender silvest is staying put,the good thing is that wenger has whole month to find a top class players in midfield and defence dj and song are good cd but there for the future wenger needs a long term replacement for gallas and realy for cb and i dont see senderos staying or getting a new contract,song dm pistion is solid enough squad player but not a loung term answer and not complete donut i have defendeded song long enough and will continue to so but he i snot top class is still learning and also looks like eboue mite be gone too so major changes this season
can we stop refering to flamini like one of our fringe players will suddenly turn us into title contenders.. That was a 1 off that could have backfired and blown up in Wenger’s face. Plus, he had Bert to call on also…
This time we have denilson, then song, then diaby…
At the back we have djourou or senderos… Not the worst defenders by any means, but if it’s a game of importance (i.e top 4 clash, CL game) i would not hold out too much optimism of conceding less than 2.
leon you’re wrong there.. Every time i slagged off song before watching a game he did o.k.. Nothing more than O.k in my eyes, to others he was fantastic.. The game where we went down to 10 men against liverpool being an example… It still doesn’t mask the fact 85% of the time he’s shocking.. Denilson just doesn’t do anything except run around and play square balls…
Redbearer @ 17:32 i dont know about Zapata being the best. i would vote for Stu’s favourite Roland Jehuzas (Spelling) of Anderlecht. the few times (3) i saw zapata he was too lazy for my linking. again i say few so i agree i am not the best person to comment.
If we do go for Zapata i think Le Boss should use Sendy as bait there.
Eboue is like that family member u would love to hate but they just grow on u. i would keep him i think he is versatile enough. If he is to be sold i would not sell him to Fiorentina. rather player exchange with Udinese for Inler.
last year we all said that our problem was experince and strength that was lacking in our squad
so far we have sold 2 of our most experienced and strongest players
our longest serving player is clichy at 24 years old
MARK, that fact about clichy is an embarrasment to our club..
Arsenal remind of the team 2 years below me at school.. Loads of kids that nip about and sometimes show up the grown ups, but when it get’s serious and physical they fall to pieces because they we’re really just little boys..
dont forget about Naldo………
dont know how tru this is but………
http://www.gunners4life.com/index.asp?article=528&referrer=rss
Did someone mention Juhasz? We should snap that mo-fo up before someone else does. 6ft4, just turned 26, CL experience, regular for his country (who are doing very well in their WC QF group). And seeing as he is in a “lesser” league he wouldnt be expensive.
Plus something tells me he isnt much of a softie
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_sW65ilskOC8/R8R2SFlgCXI/AAAAAAAAJhE/-ClCr7B0JQ8/s320/RolandJuhaszSoccer.jpg
De Rossi.. now there’s a fine DM
rev
i think a bit of exageration he had few bad games at start of season but looked alot more solid later on the season i just which would stop comaparing him to flamani,i just see him as solid cover player that all he is nothing specailbut not as bad people make him out to be
we do have experience players, rvp, rocky, arshy, fab4, eduardo, almunia, gallas, silveste(ok i admit he is crap)all we need now is quality
De Rossi and Fabregas, oh my!
Hmm rather Juhasz than Hangeland Stu.. but would he cut the mustard in the Prem? And he appears to be off Arsenal radar much like Cana was!
de rossi would be a great signing, but it aint happening
hangelaand, de rossi, huntelaar
you can only dream
revelation
i know mate, very embarrasing, i doubt there is any other top team in the world that can say that
oh yeah, forgot to mention sagna
I think its important to compare to previous players. Otherwise you will just get worse ones.
Whats the point of saying “oh those players were amazing noone will ever be that good again, lets just stop trying to better them and just accept shit”.
Thats basically whats happening…probably not that badly tho.
cesc+Inler, cesc+aquilani, cesc+velosso, or cesc+Matuidi, if no new signings then cesc+diaby, but it will probably be denilsong.
Yeah Redbearer, i think he is good enough. Physically he would have no problems imo. Im not sure what his pace is like tho but i think he would do pretty well for us. He is very calm on the ball as well so thats another plus.
Unfortunately i doubt he is on Wengers radar. Probably because he is at a good age and rated highly and you know what Wenger is like with defenders.
please not cattermole!! scott parker is much better or even bring back sidwell
Not sure of the pure validity of this, but Daniel De Rossi has appeared as an Arsenal player.
Check out the Wiki info on him http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniele_De_Rossi
Also, he appeared this morning in the squad list on the official site, with the number 13 shirt – before it was removed.
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I wish that was true!
rev
to say the team is full of kids i cant realy agree with that may be in central midfield a bit with delinson,song ramsy. but with cesc who has been playing there a good five years,risicky,aa,nasri 21,evon diaby,whats they reach 21-22 i dont think you class them as kids any longer they are either good enough or not that simple,evon in defence clichy,sagna very experienced now,vern was captain of his club in ajax,gallas, the spine of the team midfield is a bit inexperienced and wenger knows he has to adress that but to say the team is full of kids is not case in fact the average of the team is around 24-25 which the right age
cesc+aquilani for me doesnt work..aquilani is an attacking player..v need DM!!
gunnergetyou – matuidi and veluso are no better than denilson and song so makes no sense.. Aqualani is a bit “airy-fairy” and Inler is medicore.
Its not like Clichy, at 24, jus broke into the team. He was a youth with us so he has been here at least 6 years. Not ideal and i would much much orefer to have a lifelong player with us, ala JT, Maldini, Raul etc, but things arent like that anymore. Players leave because of money, greed etc.
Im hoping we keep the bunch coming through for the majority of their careers. The whole youth side, especially the proper homegrown ones from england. Its nice to have players that grew up near the club, know its history well and can relae to the fans. It doesnt make them better players but might make them want to win more….
Leon have you been 21 and played against grown men of 28-30? when they kick you it hurts like hell.. They are also stronger physically.. In regards to premiership footballers they are also very good… Our midfield 4 and back 4 are so lightweight it’s a joke..
Somewhat off topic but i saw an old chavski game the other day. Gallas was left back and wearing the armband…even tho JT was playing.
Was JT always captain or did Gallas have it before him and lose it towards the end of his time there. Anyone know?
revelation…i dont agree veluso n matuidi way betr tha song n denilson..song takes a lot of time to ditribute the ball..n denilson cant play DM..veloso n matuidi are hard tacklers..
If Arsene pulled De Rossi out his arse (which has like a 0.00000001% chance of happening) i’ll be the first down the ground singing arsene wenger songs and buying the club shop out of everything… But i think my bank balance is safe in the knowledge that if it’s over 16m, it ainb’t happeneing…
Unless Madrdi will accept something like 12-15m it ain’t happeneing either..
Shit news guys, the emirates will be hosting a rugby match for the world cup in 2013 or 2015 whenever it is.
So those bastards are gonna ruin out prefect pitch. There should be a law against that. Play yer rugby in the fucking rugby stadiums ffs!
Veluso is lazy player with a blond quiff in his hair with a continuously reported bad attitude.. matuidi is better then song yeah, but not by a great distance.. And if we just need a hard tackler i’d rather it was someone english for a change…
Karthik, are you a regular watchr of St.Etienne and Sporting or are you just assuming that? I honestly want to know because i dont watch either and still think they are both not good enough for us.
i dont mind an english DM but a quality one!!i dont think dere are ne!!
as much as it hurts me to say i think lassana diarra was the missing link, cant believe wenger fucked up
Scott Parker could do a good job for us, probably west hams best player last season
the thing was wen diarra was dere we had gilberto n flamini…i think wenger actually got it wrong wen he asked gilberto to leave!!
Well ggy, if something hurts then dont say it. Especially in this case because its not true. Diarra was a cunt that wanted to start ahead of Flamini and Cesc and thought he was above having to play in the CC.
Wenger wasnt at fault there. It was all Diarras cuntishness.
rev
i dont think age is a small part but someone like de rossi is class and he would have been class at 20 same for viera,i dont think the phsycal side a real problem for song at all,but there squad players and there top class players its that simple,i would agree the central defence needs beefing up thats why he bought vern but that only a start he still needs another beest there and dm but some one top class,
gilberto had become to slow for the prem, it broke my heart to see anderson running rings around him
Wenger didn’t fuck up.. Diarra wanted to leave to play to boost his chances t get into the france squad.. It didn’t backfire but he played 0 minutes in the tournament.. You can’t blame Wenger for losing Diarra..
Scott Parker? no thanks
I think we are entitled to a de rossi to be honest, but as arsenal fans we are linked with players that we can get with our “imaginary budget”
Therefore it’ll be one of:
Matuidi/Veluso/Inler/No One
instead of a:
De Rossi/M.Diarra/Albeda
and a:
chamackh/Hunterlaar/Gignac
instead of a:
Villa
the thing was gilberto did his job!!v dint have to sell all the DM at the same time!!!
Its fucking awful isnt it Rev. We are linked with potentially world class players instead of actually world class ones. Its a hard one to take.
Dairra wanted to leave. Flamini convinced Wenger he was going to stay so Wenger allowed Gilberto to go somewhere where he would get regular 1st team football.
Wenger was hardly at fault for all of those departures. But it was all his fault that he didnt replace them.
stu – Diarra was in no position to demand a move after only 4 months (unless there was some sort of clause)he should have been forced to stay. lets face it fergie wouldn’t put up with that.
If we are going to spend any money it has to be on a top class centre half.. Why split 40m 3 ways t get mediocre players?
Up front we have Eduardo and Van Persie.. backed with Bedntner, Vela, Arshavin and Walcott. The only reason some say we need another striker is because
a)some have doubts about eduardo and van persie staying fit
b) some don’t think bendtner is good enough to step up
In defense yes we have lost kolo toure, but we have options of:
Gallas, Vermaelen, Djourou, Senderos, Song & Silvestre.. Why bring in 1 more to take the tally back upto seven? And at 15m? Come on be serious…
In central mid the deficit in class become apparent. Take out Cesc and we have:
Denilson, Song, Diaby & Ramsey… Ramsey is quality but 18 and hasn’t nowhere near enough experience playing at the top level to just “step in”…
I do not care 1 bit about signing a striker or centre half.. Unless we sign that top clas spartner for cesc, we will again be found wanting for the 5th year on the bounce!
centre mid*
Gunnergtyou, Diarra was a bad egg. If he stayed it would have been an awful influence on the others. He wanted to start or leave. Which would you do if you were Wenger. Exactly!
gilberto had to go at the time
i would love to trade in denilson and song for what we had in flamini and diarra
i feel there is diiference this summer and past summers it very clear the fans are growing alot more impatient and wenger is fully awaer that he has to buy top class players paricualy in cb which he has not done since sole cambell left and the cb is better i feel more confident with gallas vern at the back and i also feel that song looks better at cb than dm and dj is getting better to but another defender will be needed
Wenger isn’t Fergie gunnergetyou
which ever way you look at it wenger went from having 3 quality DMs to denilson in less than six months, sounds like he fucked up to me.
Leon, Wenger has never bought a top class CB. I seriously doubt he is just gonna start now.
A centre midfield partner for Fabregas is the priority and nothing else should come first. With the right player in midfield we could easily win something major next season.
Why people said that we don’t spend 17million for the rossi maybe we do that because of the money we have now. We have very much money and some of that we will spend! On one day we must spend much money maybe this transfermarket??
Yes ggy, but its not his fault that Diarra and Flamini wanted to go.
Happy Birthday Geoff!
If we sell Toure for 15 million…..WE CAN AFFORD DAVID VILLA
Just had an interesting conversation with a mate of mine that sometimes gets good snippets of info and sometimes not so good but he seems to beleive we have already tied up 2 signings that are just waiting on Wenger flying back in and they are hoping to have them tied up and presented before the emirates cup if not early next week he didnt give me names but beleives one is a forward and one a centre mid he also said we are working hard on a third signing which is a biggish name but its hard work as there are 2-3 teams interested in his signing and it could go to the wire surprise surprise, As i say its not defo but a couple of times what he has told me has transpired out to be true, I just hope for our sake hes correct !!!!
For the life of me i cannot understand City wanting Toure as id say theyve got a very similar player in Richards, But hey 16mill carnt be sniffed at as long as its re invested.
Dutchman De Rossi would cost 30m minimum, but he’d be worth it.. Like Ronaldo will prove to be worth 80m, Villa for 40m and Eto’o for free…
You pay for top class.. Arshavin was a very lucky deal made possible by the players desire to move to us.. If we’d have waited until this summer he’d cost upwards of 25m..
we need yaya twice as much as we need villa
Yes David we could but a centre midfielder is more of a priority.. 40m on Villa would give us all a lift untill 1st game against everton when we see denilsong’s name on the starting 11 teamsheet…
Sounds promising Chippy. I just hope the two players arent Matuidi and Chamakh.
Just out of curiosity, what has your friend been right about before?
well stu wenger has already started with vern who is class defender but he needs a another one
Stu Says:
July 28, 2009 at 18:39
Sounds promising Chippy. I just hope the two players arent Matuidi and Chamakh.
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Stu you’re probably going to regret ever saying that tbh..
well id get Matuidi for the supposed 7 million…and buy VILLA!
Problem Sovled!
Well Leon, Vermaelen is hardly a high profile defender who is known as world class. Im not saying he isnt good buthe isnt a big player and is thus far a big risk because he is relatively un known.
Chippy do you tell us bullocks??? Is that friend of you a journalist???
Hope yer mate’s source is a valid one Chippy… here’s hoping!
too early to make any judements on verm only time will tell, but wenger he has always had a blindspot when it comes to CBs,he was very lucky to inherit the greatest back four in the prem history
Rev, if it is those 2 then i will be very disappointed. VERY disappointed indeed.
David i’d begrudgingly settle for matuidi and villa… Again these top players won’t happen because of
a) our wage structure ceiling of about 80/100k for the captain..
b) the 50% super rich tax bracket..
Basically the player would really, really want to have to play for us..
Matuidi wouldn’t be such a bum signing!
Chippy there could be true in that. Because of wenger sells toure and adebayor to make money and buy two other who we want to see! This could be a plan of him. I trust in that source.
Chippy how did you mate know that?? What is he??
Dutchman if you believe that you’ll believe we’re signing Villa and De Rossi for undisclosed fees on monday… We aren’t nowhere near signing any1 at the moment..
Maybe thats why wenger sells toure, because of those two signings and he must make money for them.
stu
niether was vidich,niether sagna,if you big name player john terry and he one the most overated defenders out there,big name and big talnent are complete 2 different things,rinando was not high profile player either fergi and wenger the best when it comes spotting good players,i mean i go on on on the amount of none highprofile player wenger has picked over years who have shown there world class
Last i checked David Villa said he wanted to play for us!
Arsene has said many thing over the years, but i’ve cottoned onto his bullshit:
The statement “We are not close to signing anyone at the moment.. I will assess the squad over pre season friendlies and see what areas need addressing”
Subtitles – I haven’t been looking to sign players as i believe there is enough quality, team spirit and the belief to fight for each other already in the squad.. My favourite orphans diaby, denilson and song all have an extra year of experience and will show it over the forthcoming campaign..
Our shirt sales alone will recover half the money we spend on Villa in one season.
Not at 40k a week after Tax he doesn’t David..
Aw Reva you never know.. Negotiations could be happening with Ivan G and his team whilst Wenger’s on tour… we surely gotta have some hope on the transfer front!
Revalution, What the fack you talking about. I don’t say I “I believe that we signed villa and de rossi” But maybe gignac and inler???? Or Matuidi and huntelaar??? It could be true but believe what you believe. I think it could be true. I am sure we signing someone.And how do you know that(that we aren’t on the verge of a signing). Wenger say that he is looking for players as the emirates cup is over. SO!!
i must admitt when it comes picking attacking players wenger has usualy spot on but defenders not to great but lets that changes
Really David, becaue last i checked Villa signed a contract at Valencia and said he has no intention of leaving. And that was only a few weeks ago.
Thats true for every class player Rev…
And its not to say that there are no class players that dont play in England…the contract is an issue I agree as Arshavin is complaining..but we can Afford him for a fact…and there in lies hope!
what i’m saying dutchman is basically don’t get your hopes up, bothing more because come the end of the emriates cup we’ll have the same squad we have now possibly minus toure and eboue..
Revalution, That is what he two weeks ago say. And do you really believe the words of wenger??? He is a close book.
Sorry boys having trouble with my laptop his mate beleive it or not works for the racing post so occasionaly gets some football info from players etc on race days, As i say hes told me a few before that have turned out to be true and others that have never happened so only passing on what he told me, As i say ive no idea on names but cannot in a million years beleive it will be villa or anyone that exciting !! Probably be two ten year olds from Fc Creche, we will see later in the week or very early next week.
yes david but the class players in england are all on 100k plus.. Van persie settled for 80k a week because he loves the club and his because of his stature here.. he could quite have easily got 150k a week elsewhere..
WE HAVE 45MILLION WE COULD EASILY SPEND !% MILLION FOR A PLAYER SO DON’T BE SO NEGATIVE!!!!!!!!!
Stu
Valencia cant afford to pay the players wages….so i think its funny that he “signed a new contract”
Hilarious really.
dutchman read the subtitles for what is exactly being said behind the bullshit…
Arsene has said many thing over the years, but i’ve cottoned onto his bullshit:
The Bullshit statement “We are not close to signing anyone at the moment.. I will assess the squad over pre season friendlies and see what areas need addressing”
Truthful Subtitles – I haven’t been looking to sign players as i believe there is enough quality, team spirit and the belief to fight for each other already in the squad.. My favourite orphans diaby, denilson and song all have an extra year of experience and will show it over the forthcoming campaign..
Dutchman the reason i am so negative is because wenger has not and will not spend upwards of 17m on a player.. NEVER!
Well thats why we have negotiations innit Rev?
He can sign a 90K a week contract and we’d be intalks for “improvement” based on his “contribution” to the team?
Plus if we do…Cesc will sign a new contract. Win-win.
Stu didnt see your question, He told me about campbell a week before he signed he also told me about Gallas being involved with the cole deal and other transfers for different clubs but as i say hes also given me some wrong ones he was sure Torres was going to be an Arsenal player !!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/arsenal/5925369/Arsenals-five-challenges-ahead-of-the-new-Premier-League-season.html
Interesting read…..
…..and sorry, but no high profile names will be joining us this summer, let’s face the fact the whilst mr.wenger is in the hotseat, we will never spend in access of 20million – that includes David Villa and any other superstar!
true David, but i remain sceptical at best.. Villa, at arsenal, that’ll be the daewoo!
ReVELAtion Says:
July 28, 2009 at 18:59
Dutchman the reason i am so negative is because wenger has not and will not spend upwards of 17m on a player.. NEVER!
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This is true Rev but he’s had the Ade cash in for a while now….and is not spending it….you are saying he’s done then there? I dont think so….he’ll lose his job for sure if he doesnt.
LOL.. well Wenger will probably sign up Marcus Berg & Matuidi for under 10 mil each if he really is the last of the big spenders!!
red – Berg’s already gone to hamburg and i was gutted!
Alonso for 26m would be a half way hand shake for me at this moment in time..
Bollocks… another missed opportunity!!
Id be happy to see Kolo go….if im honest….im sorry to say but he had a horrible season imo….how we continually look fragile in the air is very worrying….if kolo can let Benayoun beat him in the air to score at Anfield then he really should be off.
David, Wenger will lose his job then, but truth be told we both know he won’t.. He’ll walk before he is pushed believe me..
alonso’s off to madrid!
Marc Berg is slow fella’s he’s not quicker pr better than Hangeland imo.
That’s news to me.. I just hope that we don’t miss out of Eden Hazard… Our transfer policy is snail trail slow!!
David, i agree about Kolo. But i would prefer him to go to another league. Former players generally do well when they play against us.
And Benayoun didnt beat anyone in the air. The ball was kicked off him and luckily went in for him. And it was Sagna anyway, not Kolo. But i still think Kolo isnt good enough anymore.
David let’s just assess our imaginary budget for a moment:
13m
- 10m Vermaelen (3m)
- 500k jamie Edge (2.5m)
- 5m contract extensions (-2.5m)
+ 22m Adebayor (19.5m)
+ 15m Toure (34.5m)
That is enough to buy you 1 top class player.. In Wenger’s eyes enough to buy 3 mediocre ones with the potential to be class (not world class) in about 4 years.. Do you see the cycle constantly repeating itself?
David, do you even know who Berg is?
This team is run by idiots. Complete cretinous idiots.
Hazard has a pre-contract to join Chelsea next season Redbearer.
Did i say Hangeland? Sorry i meant Hunter!
You know i have my mind on defence yes!
Oh and Agreed rev…
The cycle is repeating itself….but id give Wenger one last chance….he admitted we werent good enough…and he admitted we need to sign experienced players and he got it wrong etc….so if the cycle continues……..
guillen ballege on talk sport now
saying that david villa could be heading to england
that means liverpool im sure
also talked about madrid enquiring about clichy a week ago
ok then. Never mind.
Nooo… 2 pieces of bad news in one day.. I can not take it anymore!!!!
Yeah Villa to Liverpool.
We won’t get anyone.
Stu
Stoke City, Delaps throws, Hull City, Chelsea game, the list goes on…
Fookin hate the Chavs!!
We are watching history being made. The fall of Wengers Empire.
IMPORTANT MESSAGE:
listen guys…..i want Hangeland as much as the next guy, but aren’t fulham playing in the europa league this thursday? rules being that you can’t play in two uefa competitions?….so if that’s the case i’d look very carefully to see if hangeland is fielded in thursday line up because if he is as thee rules say we wouldn’t be able to draft him in until you play in the last 16
We won’t sign Hangeland anyway. Wenger said he’s got too many centrebacks (7) so he’s not going to buy another one unless Senderos leaves as well.
wtf?
from daily mail
Arsenal are in talks with Newcastle United over keeper Tim Krul. The young Dutchman has been on loan with Carlisle but found his opportunities limited at St James’ Park. Arsene Wenger was interested in the keeper prior to him signing for the Tyneside club and is likely to land his man at the second time of asking.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1202724/TRANSFER-GOSSIP-Arsenal-hold-8-5m-Eboue-fee-Spurs-Hutton–Tuesdays-stories.html?ITO=1490#ixzz0MZzlIJQP
gonner_b11.. You can play for different team as long as they aren’t involved in the same competition i.e the CL.. You can make the jump between europa cup and CL.. You may have to wait untill the following stage to actually register the player mind you..
I dont think Villa wouldnt move to england. The weather is a big problem and i think Villa has previously said so…that the weather would be a major issue.
However, if he was to come to england then he should join us because our stadium/pitch and quality f play would make up for the poor weather.
We play proper football that suits Villa. Livershit play route 1 football worse than anyone else. Most teams have their defenders hoofing the ball. Livershit use their keeper. SO basically Villa would never get the ball because it would be constantly going over his head. And anyway how could they afford him. Arent they supposed to be broke.
So that’s wengers plan. We’re going to play 4 goalkeepers and hope that keeps the score down!
true….but he hasn’t exactly been prepairing him as a centreback, and lets face it, when he’s talking about playing some in midfield he’s talking about song! i still think he’ll prepair senderos’s exit aswell maybe in a swap deal if hodgson were to want him
David, im sure the list goes on but what are you talking about?
Stu not after they sell Alonso they aren’t….
Ballege has been saying for about a week that utd are in for villa. its on his website.
ReVELAtion
Subsequent registration
18.17 For all matches from the start of the round of 16, a club may register a
maximum of three new eligible players for the remaining matches in the
current competition. Such registration must be completed by
1 February 2010 at the latest. This deadline cannot be extended.
18.18 One player from the above quota of three who has played UEFA club
competition matches for another competing club in the current season may
exceptionally be registered, provided that the player has not been fielded:
in the same competition for another club; or
for another club that is currently in the same competition.
Furthermore, if the player’s new club is playing in the UEFA Europa League,
his former club must not have played in the UEFA Europa League at any
point in the current season.
Good Evening
i posted a message about 10 minutes ago, but it does not seem to be appearing,
Please advise
if you look before this in the uefa website you’ll see nothing about registering players from another competition, you’ll see deadlines but the dules are clear once they’ve played in a uefa competition that’s it it!
you can play them in different competitions just not the same 1 (unless they’ve been an unused subsitute) gooner_b.. Was the same last season and you’re post even confirms it.. READ IT PROPERLY!
so basically anyone who plays in the europa now until 1st of febuary can’t represent anyone in the cl and vise versa
18.18 One player from the above quota of three who has played UEFA club
competition matches for another competing club in the current season may
exceptionally be registered, provided that the player has not been fielded:
in the same competition for another club; or
for another club that is currently in the same competition.
ReVELAtion this is subsequent registration which means restration later on! there’s no rules like this before round 16
How’s it going all ye ole cunts?? Been sitting at an airport for a while reading all the debating going on. Top stuff as usual.
First off, many happy returns Geoffry, a true Arsenal man, a top top guy, and a helluva fella in my book. Happy birthday buddy!
So king Kolo is off then, am pretty much in the same boat as all the ones seeing more positives in this then negatives (as long as we spend the dough). Often we have debated how/if Wenger has the funds as rednose or some other top managers he would pull a few rabbits out of the hat like the golden days of old. Well Mr. Wenger this seems to be somewhat of a 2nd rebuild in 5 years and we deserve a Paddy/Bobby/Thierry quality player in the dm and cb spot now. No excuses monsieur, two more transfer windows in my book (including the month in this one and Jan) and that’s that. Do the business AW, let’s see where the truth really lies for you? Are you past it or still a genius? All of us have an opinion about that, but the proof will well and truly be in the 09/10 pudding.
take a look at the whole thing because right now you’re only seeing the part you wanna see, ReVELAtion please have a read
http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Regulations/competitions/UCL/84/52/77/845277_DOWNLOAD.pdf
http://arsenalaction.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/video-please-wenger-not-kolo/
arsenal action nailed it for me. thats exactly how i feel!!!!!
:@:@:@:@:@
Too much doom and gloom guys there are many positives to look forward to
Go to 08:15 and see miss of the season already. even a goalkeeper would score this. Shocking….
suicidalsam…..speak for yourself, sorry but kolo might be a better pro than gallas, but not a better player, the gallas injury against villareal and there after confirmed that for me
i know ssn are saying £16m for kolo but there’s an un-named source close to the (undisclosed) deal saying it’s actually 23M euros….which is £19.8 mill mate i’ll take that all day
Like what paul being 35m in the green?
gooner_b11 you are probably right, but i’d rather keep senderos and save 15m then sign hangelaand so it doesn’t really matter.
It’s funny because Arsene is trying to lower our expecatations so if we finish 4th above city etc then it will seen as a triumph whilst boosting the coffers.. I on the other hand will be calling for his head..
Senderos is better than Hangeland simply because he is younger and we already hae him. So soending 15m on Hangeland would be utterly pointless.
guys marcotti on talk sport said that roma want denilson
id take that all day, then wenger would have to sign a dm
3rd and the FA cup next season should be minimum we expect. Anything less is a failure (unless its CL and 4th
finishing 4th next year is failure, nothing but
no excuses this year
lets assemble a squad good enough to win, at the moment we are short
At the moment we are just a DM short. The defence would be fine if we have a quality DM to protect it. Whereas if we just sign a CB the defence would still be exposed and the goal exposed to long shots (and we all know Almunia struggles with those)
the laughing thing would be amazing and has to happen !!! it would be revolutionary.
looks like toure is off for 16 mil, and I already miss him. he’s not the same player he was though as you said and 16 mil is decent if we use it. We’re all kidding ourselves if we think we can win anything this year without investing in a proven defensive midfielder, and tbh, a proven central defender.
dish out some dollar arsene.
i don’t what to think about cattermole, maybe a drak horse but definitely not what I had in mind.
sorry, ‘don’t know what to think. . ‘ and ‘dark’ not drak.
cheers
Happy Birthday Geoff!
I’ve only just tuned in. I’ve been reading the main posts but unfortunately I have not had time to blog recently, summers are meant to be for chilling right?
Not for me, busy working my socks off…..many happy returns!!
Roma want Denilson and according to the Arsenal website this morning we want/have De Rossi. Maybe the ‘deal’ involves Denny. I would also rather keep Senderos and give Hangelaand a miss. Use the cash left over to try and bring a world class striker or CB to the squad.
you people need to stop this i’ve an open mind on hangerland, but if you people are expecting to see a tranformation senderos you really are waisting your time, hangerland is 28, learnt his trade and experienced, senderos will never fully deliver his potential because wenger doesn’t nurture centre backs, tony adams confirmed it but saying defensivly he learnt nothing about defending from wenger instead how to move forward on and off the ball, training techniques, dieties etc
basically senderos needed to learn his trade elsewhere and then join arsenal, he should’ve been sent to italy in the 1st place when we 1st got him….it’s dead weight now boys
by selling Kolo, AW sends out the same wrong signal (again): it is not worth to be a loyal servant to the club…
we’ve seen it once with Le Bob, now we see it again with Kolo…
this is unless of course Kolo wants to play regularly in the first team rather than rotate reasonably to be able to mount assault on all fronts, which I find hard to believe…
senderos was not good enough before and a year playing 13 games for milan aint gona turn him into a great
hes lack of pace and agility make him an accident waiting to happen
It’s not a dead situation. Sendy is fully capable of becoming a great CB. He just needs support from the fans. He has Arsenal in his heart and I love his passion and attitude. His breakdown after the Liverpool game in the UCL confirms his passion for the team and football. He wants to be good, we can’t knock him for that. He has the ability lads, have faith. I think Hangelaand would be a waste of £15m anyway. He’s not suited to our game and is too slow. Wenger plays a high defence line and Hangelaand would not be able to cope with all the running. Hangelaand is only welcome is Wenger changes his defensive tactics, which is highly unlikely.
if Wenger changes*
did anyone here actually see De Rossi on the arsenal website for themselves?
I am beginning to think that Wenger is deliberately sabotaging this team so Dein can come back in with Usmanov!
goonerpress Says:
July 28, 2009 at 20:00
Roma want Denilson and according to the Arsenal website this morning we want/have De Rossi. Maybe the ‘deal’ involves Denny. I would also rather keep Senderos and give Hangelaand a miss. Use the cash left over to try and bring a world class striker or CB to the squad.
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So it wasn’t my imagination when i saw his name in the first team squad with number 13 this morning then… Still, I just don’t want to believe it as many a time i’ve been left sorely dissapointed..
arsenal fella – me
methink hackers been at work.. The naughty boy/girl
Its not like Senderos has always bee shite for us. He was a starter when we won the fa cup and when we got to the CL final and wa s great both those seasons. So he has the ability for sure.
Its just fans only see the mistakes that he has made and think “oh he is shit and he will cost us the game everytime he plays” when its simply not true. He makes mistakes but you have to lok at the curcumstances. Rusty because of a lack of playing time, wrong system, lack of confidence because fans blame him for everything.
What about his good performances? Senderos-haters ignore the good and only see the bad.
i dont senderos is that bad of a player he is agood squad player,i think he shou ld song cd ,i dont think cb situation is that bad at all its pretty gallas vern will together and i would keep senderos as cover and dj is good as well song but i would dump silvester,if we did buy hangland i cant see warming the bench and i think gallas is better but happaens when gallas goes ,who is going to be cb
hangeland will be a waste of money imo.. senderos would be legendary in a fulham defence. i’d rather buy zapata or as stu says juhasz or some other mean fecker.
I want to know why toulalan hasnt been linked with any big player , french intl and top class. surprising that.
the matuidi rumours have died down.. and what’s this about de rossi… havent seen him play for roma as i dont watch the calcio. but when he played against us, i daresay denilson looked the better player… but i guess he will be a good buy nonetheless… he is also a big name and would improve our standing.
right goonerpress…..like tony adams, bould or senderos were lightning quick? it’s all about knowhow and great positioning, if you have that which hangerland has and senderos doesn’t, and he wont WNEGER DOESN’T TEACH DEFENCE AND SENDEROS IS TILL LEARNING,IT’S DEAD WOOD!
same with bendtner stu… But where as i have a love in with bendtner I couldn’t really care too much about senderos.. I’d rather we saved the 15m on hangelaand and kept him (senderos) because in all honesty hangelaand would be a 15m disaster at a big club.. Not worth the risk.. get rid of fish head and we’ll have 5 centre backs i’ll be content with..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniele_De_Rossi
Seperated from his wife in early 2009… maybe he just fancies a break away from the Italian scene and a new challenge with us?!
gooner b i understand your senderos vs hangelaand assumption because senderos as in line with the other arsenal most hated mob of bendtner, song, denilson, eboue, fabianski and diaby will always split opinion…
But why buy another centre half taking us back up2 seven.. Bought at an estimated 15m.. Then we sell senderos for 6m.. makes no sense and is high risk..
Hangelaand at 15m is a non starter.. Wenger will never pay that for a centre half.
Let’s get it right here: If we signed De Rossi and no one else who here would be happy?
I tell you what i’d be fucking estatic!
de rossi is a dirty fecker isnt he.. nice, exactly what we need.
i doubt he’s coming though..italian players rarely leave italy especially to ocme to england..they’re all mamma’s boys.
Why should we be interested in buying Hagerland when Man City are not?
Any obvious answers?
De Rossi would be an amazing signing but why would Roma be willing to sell?
Hangeland is just a myth. 14m for a defender when we just bought one for 10m and Wenger didnt even want to pay 16m for arshavin. No chance of Wenger buying another defender for that much money.
stu
senderos was never crap but problem has always been mental he can go play 15 games playing well but if he plays bad game it knocks for six he is good squad player,but there so many good defenders around hargland is 1 for very many good defenders,i think put song cd cover and get top class dm.but have talked that to death about song/delinson young squad players nothing more we are top team and we need top midfielders well we need top players in every position we have in most positions not all,we have good strikers,good attacking midfielders great wing backs,some cd is werehave some good player but not enough and but central midfield we some players who wet behind ears and some just bearly out of dipers
yeah revelation i see your point that’swhy i said i’m open minded i don’t mind either way, but people saying that senderos will become a legend is far fetched, it simply wont happen, and the realism is we conceaded 37 in 38games in the league, that’s horrible! but yeah de rossi would be great i won’t lie
What has De Rossi ever done tho? Always average in the CL, got outshone by Denilson, got sent off in the WC for elbowing McBride in the face and has won the italian equivilant(sp) of the FA and Carling cup.
And he would cost what? 20m+. I would rather someone a little better. He is high profile but never really done anything imo…and he isnt an energetic ball winner which is basically what we need.
you do realise tho alot of people here are becoming SWCGB’s “senderos will come good brigade” lol don’t start a new trend boys
lol ben foster is so fecking shit.. who lets in 2 goals against Hangzhou Greentown…
atleast zombie FC and SC Columbia were better than that bunch of muppets. atleast they had some sort of physical presence….
also nani made the miss of the season already.. 6 yards out, open goal and he misses…
stupid bellend tried to show off too when he scored a goal with his somersaults et al… stupid cunt – thinks he’s just won the champs league.
Rohan – it was Evra
b11, you criticise Senderos and site the poor defence last season at the same time. I dont understand why because Senderos didnt even play for us last season so how would any of that be his fault?
Senderos would defo help that record from last season. As long as Silvestre fucks off that is. He was at fault for a lot of those goals even tho he hardly played. Whats his record again? Anyone know?
Imo Senderos would have surely have learnt how to defend after spending a season with AC Milan who warrant one of the meanest defences in world football.. so it’s a make or break season for Big Phil unless he has already decided to go but I hope he gives us one last chance and that we do the same too!
Senderos is not a ‘top 4′ player. Seems to mess up in big games
what the miss of the season ?? anyway, even I could have scored that one.
stu..
its difficult to play when you don’t have the manager’s faith, he was doing well in 07/08 and toure came straight back and took his spot.
he was never first choice and is always expected to fill right in..
Like most of the people here i criticized most of this team, partically song, diaby, and denilson. However they aren’t my respect at the end of the season in the premier league at old trafford where we bullied united for the whole of the match. They RVP, nasri, and cesc dismantled evra made me proud. So now i trust this team.
I believe wenger is sorting out the defence slowly. He finally had enough of king kolo at anfield when we drew 4-4.
Like which games Goonerman? Liverpool in the CL. Chelsea against drogba a few times. Other than that he doesnt have a bad record in big games like the CL or against the big teams.
Torres and Drogshit were really the only forwards who embarrassed him…and at a time when they were ripping every defence a new one week in week out.
Wenger made up his mind about Kolo after 4:4 @ Anfield?
as far as I remember, Diaby stood like a cunt waiting for the whistle instead of closing down the Scouser for 4:4…
I know Choy and its a right cunt. Senderos is the type of player who needs to play to perform well. Not be in and out of the team. He needs confidence otherwise he will always fuck up. He is used as an emergency defender/last resort. He was used as that in the CL against livershit and look what happened there.
Just seen bruno on a top quality copy from my local vietnamese dvd provider.. must say it is absolute shite! That’s getting traded in next week
I just counted the goals conceded in the prem in 07-08 (in my head, no stats) and we conceded 32 goals that season. So going on that our defence is actually worse without Senderos. 37 last season, 32 the season before.
Maybe someone else can do the other seasons because im shit with stats.
Stu Says:
July 28, 2009 at 20:45
I know Choy and its a right cunt. Senderos is the type of player who needs to play to perform well. Not be in and out of the team. He needs confidence otherwise he will always fuck up. He is used as an emergency defender/last resort. He was used as that in the CL against livershit and look what happened there.
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Stu he is never going to get an extended run of games bar mass injuries.. And having him start a run of games fills me with dread.. I don’t want him to have to play himself into form.. You either play on merit or not..
ReVELAtion: surely not Senderos’ fault, I presume ?
Stu – fair point about ripping every defence. But Arsenal loaned him out and AC Meeeelin don’t want him.
*and 35 the season before that (06-07).
Not a massive difference but the defence is statistically better with Senderos in the squad.
I dont know how many of those Senderos played in or what the games/goals ratio is but i hpe someone else does that.
SSN have put out a load of stats on Kolo making out he is very average.
well.. torres and drogba are a handful for any defence….
but senderos does worry me whenever he plays!!
Milan didnt keep him because he didnt play- because he broke a toe in training and never got a run in the team.
Yep Reva… ditto Bruno was garbage.. some of that shite turned by stomach it was that unnatural!
ray parlour on sky
saying we need 3 signings
1 cb 1 dm and 1 striker
he says with that we can challenge for title
the guy interviewing him sounded shocked to hear that ray thinks we could win title with those aditions, you would think by his response that ray had just said that burnley will win the league
what a prick that reporter is
ooh ahh ray parlour
man im getting worried we are gonna be stuck with silvestre for a lot of games nnext season!!!
Christ Robson is a mug, championing song as the answer to our defensive midfielder on talksport.. Cock!
his toe heeled and milan still didnt want him
I bet Senderos had every chance in Milan!
I do like him he did a good job to keep Sol out of the 2005 FA Cup Final.
we need a 25 goal a season striker, a tall centre half and song according to robson.. Never like him, prick!
yooooo people whats going on,kolo gone yet
i’ll add to that list of torres and drogba, make that yakubu aswell and even sami hyypia in the air…..any others?
but i would have senderos over silvest!!!
I reckon Toure will go, and this is just the start of a trend that many have been predicting, it’s too hard for players to turn down 100k+ a week, but…
didn’t Ferguson single us out for being frail defensively?
Hasn’t Toure’s form dipped?
Adebayor had to go, and we’ll get the best deal on the market.
Once Kolo put in his transfer request, he was no longer fully committed with Man City at the back of his mind.
BBK.. Toure medical due tomorrow then an impending announcement expected from Shity by the wkend
cool r.b
bbk
wats cracking
kolo aint gone yet flying back from austria for medical tomorrow
some fans on here want senderos reinstated into squad
b11, why Yak? What did he ever do?
And Hyypia? Hardly someone who always makes a mug of Senderos. Happened in one game. If you jugde players on one game then Vidic is proper shit as well becuase he got send off and cost 2 goals against Liverpool. Fuck sake man!
the fact we are debating on who is better silvestre or senderos is confirmation that we need a top CB
yo m.g cool m8,it’s beyond me why people think icantdefenderos is still wanted at the place
Well Wenger has proved one thing. He is the transfer king and stupid teams like Man City just show their money and go after a player. No manners or knowledge at all, just the case that they have money and will throw their money around. They could easily scout Europe and find players who have great abilities and less of a name. That would allow them to build a ‘squad’ which is not full of ego’s. They only need experienced players with stability who can help to form a winning squad. Much like our very own Arsenal. You don’t need big names to win a title or a cup, just a good manager with great transfer and tactical knowledge, loyal players, and a squad full of ability. Once again, look at our very own Arsenal as a example. We just need two experienced and able players to win the league next season, they don’t have to be big names and carry a big value. Man City want urgent success and with a silly yes-man leading them (Mark Huges), it can prove to generate a very horrible result.
We arent debating that Mark. Its clear that Senderos is the better…
BBK, its not happening. Give it up…
Wenger should be a director of football. Great at doing deals and making massive profits off player sales. Shame he isnt that good with winning trophies lately….
whats no happnin stu
You know BBK. Denilsong was a stroke of genius. But “icantdefendeross” is letting you down.
senderos is better then silvestre in the same way a broken arm is better then a broken leg
I remember someone telling me that when gallas, and senderos played together we conceded the fewest amount of goals.
And i no this sounds funny, but when senderos plays in defence, i feel the team try to protect him, so they sit deeper, and we concede less.
Ergo Senderos shuld play more. Right Kevin.
Very true Kevin. Senderos is also a beast in the air. I think him and Gallas would be a perfect pairing next season. They need a proper DM infront of them too though.
Well..ye all complain that we need a ball winning defender and slate Senderos in the same breath. He is a leader at the back and seeing as we already own him he is the best option alongside Gallas imo.
(until Vermaelen shows what he is capable of) If TV is a beast in the air then Senderos wouldnt start.
lol! Have Gallas and Senderos in defence and Vermaelen in midfield. He is hard in the tackle, aggressive too, left footed so would balance the midfield and is decent at passing. Perfect
Stu, that could be Wengers plan mate. You never know.
stu, is the silly season starting to get to you?
Stu, i trust senderos, im willing to give him one more chance. in fact im willing to give everyone a chacne this year. this is because the way the media, and pundits disrespect us is disgusting.
I pray that we don’t get injuries especially to key midfield players. When either song , denilson, and diaby play with our sublime technically gifted players ie rosicky, cesc, nasri, arshavin, they all look really good.
But when we are forced to play all three at once they don’t look as good.
icantdefenderos is quality stu what you on about m8 lolllllll
Never Rev. Silly season doesnt get to me. I’ve always wanted Senderos starting in defence.
Yes we do need to get behind those who wanna stay and commit themselves to the club.. albeit I would much prefer to see Silvestre withdrawn into a coaching role… because you just can not be left for dead and give up like he did when Drogba scored the 2nd against us in the cup semi.. never forget that one espec because it was the Chavs and it hurt double!!
read this
and peoples comments below are hilarious
http://arsenalaction.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/wenger-tells-the-arsenal-fans-more-lies/
Happy Birthday Geoff
The optimist in me is wondering if we are pooling the Ade/Taure monies for a serious bid for Yaya
Ironical that one brother would pay/pave the way for the other
and, yes, ditto to all the positive sentiments expressed above about Kolo…classy and very committed guy
Stu, I have heard a rumour that MAYBE we are after Anderlecht’s central defender Van Damme(lol). I rate Juhasz but I’ve never heard anything about this player. Is he any good? Also, have You noticed that Anderlecht has many quality players?
i said this earlier but will say it again as most of u werent on then
gael clichy is our longest serving player and he is 24 years old
wat other top team in the world can say that
None of them obviously mark. DUH! There is only one Gael Clichy and we have him…
MARK GOONER Says:
July 28, 2009 at 21:26
read this
and peoples comments below are hilarious
http://arsenalaction.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/wenger-tells-the-arsenal-fans-more-lies/
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Wow! So melodramatic. I have never encountered so many miserable Arsenal fans in my life. It’s depressing!!!!
I am one of the few that thinks that the quality is there if a certain few pulls their arms out of their asses and starts playing like Wenger knows they can. They must play super-blinders in training.
Diaby needs to start staying fit, he is better than Denilson & Song.
Maciek, i didnt know we were linked with Van Damme. He is apparently a left sided defender. Both CB and sometimes left back, im not sure how true the rumours are because we just bought Vermaelen for that side.
Still tho at 6ft4 how bad can he be. Apparently he is a recist as well…or was convicted as one. Just read that on wiki so might bot be totally accurate.
wouldn’t surprise me if clichy was out the door next
Sion, dont pay attention to that shit site. ALl they ever do is call Wenger a cunt and say he should be sacked etc etc.
Apparently Wenger is actually the devil and is responsible for world hunger, the whole in the o-zone layer and created AIDs. Lets all just kill him now and be done with it…
I was just browsing and the Wikipedia article on Arsenal suggests that the crest was changed in 2002 simply because the earlier crest was not copyrightable
pity to pour all that tradition down the drain just to stifle some ‘unofficial’ sales from street traders
I am with Jimbo on Wenger. He should just go,period.
Here is a manager who almost lost 4th spot and who saw for himself the weakness in his team in the mid and the defense. His only buy prior to the qualifiers is a 5ft 11″ defender. Meanwhile about 2/3 first team players are ready to be offloaded. On top of that he says he needs to assess the need for buying after preseason.
He needs to bring in a Striker. We love Eddy but can anyone stick out his neck that he is 100% for the season? Ditto Rosicky. Even if they are, why would it hurt to bring on another goalscorer in the mold of Klass Huntelaar?
We wasted so much time and missed the opportunity to pick Cana for peanuts. I hear people asking that a big club did not come for him, but rememer that Essien, Mascherano, Lampard all played for smaller clubs before they made the move to the big time.
could be seriously interested in Jelle van Damme
maybe that’s why we’re clearing out so many Africans…
“Claims of racism
Van Damme was sued by Standard Liege center back Oguchi Onyewu for allegedly calling Onyewu a “dirty ape” during the Belgian league play-off match between Anderlecht and Standard Liege.[1] Onyewu is an American of Nigerian ancestry.”
Thanks Stu. They have also a great cdm from Argentina. I have forgotten his name but this boy is class.
wenger is responsible for our demise over these past years from invincibles to invisibles…..
Your right BBK, Madrid want him.
Wenger will sell, he’s taking apart the team so Dein can come back in.
I just followed a link on newsnow and ended up on a manshitty blog. They call it “the revolution” which is what Toure is apparently joining. Anyone would think they’ve bought a cross between Tony Adams and Pele. Wait till the acn comes around. we’ve only got 1 African left.
clichy is defo next big one along with cesc to go, wenger will do the same with gibbs as he did with cole and silvinho i reckon
sion i meant the comments cunting the writer off were funny not the story itself
Biglia?
GM, Eboue and Song is 2. Or do you think Eboue is defo gone too…and to whom?
Wenger is ruining Arsenal. Everyone can see it now. Geoff has been right all along.
2 song and eboue
Eboue is gone to Fiorentina for 8.5m. Announcment to be made when they return from Austria apparently.
Confidentgooner. The chavs only got Essien because they offered more than the mancs. neither of them wanted Cana and the mancs could do with that type of player.
Wenger has got a funny idea about how to keep a squad together ain’t he?
We need a big money backer and i don’t care if its the Ruskie as long as he makes Wenger spend or gets someone in who will.
if our current team played a game against the players we have lost in last 5 years i think we would get smashed
Yes Stu, thanks once more.
Anyone else heard we’re getting Beckham? I fucking hope not!
Yeah and the current squad would lose it in midfield!
Stu
I totally forgot about song.
going off topic but this is class
Careful what you wish for Baxter
If Wenger brings in a few good men then I’m well in favour of this dross clearout.
Thank god for Man City eh. If it wasn’t for them Ade would be here forever
He’s not selling the ones we should get shot of though.
Lego Head, Song, Bender, Senderdross, Djourou, Silvestre and Walcott. Oh and Almunia and Fabianski too. None of em good enough.
Cana said: “I would only leave Marseille for a big foreign club who have the potential to challenge for major silverware.”
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or that will pay me 80 grand a week i am not worth…
baxter by that assumption we might as well sell the lot and start a fresh.. Don’t be ridiculous..
Silvestre yes, Senderos if we don’t get rid of silvestre and you didn’t even mention eboue or diaby, but you mention bendtner and walcott? crikey
http://www.arsenal.com/match-menu/171604/reserves/maidenhead-united-v-arsenal-res?tab=report
Evening all!
realistic dream team:
————-almunia————
-sagna–hang/upson—gallas–clichy
————-toulalan———
–nasri—-cesc—–arsh
——rvp—–huntelaar
Huntelaar:16m£
hange/upson:15m£
toulalan:15m£
we could sell senderos:6m£ so we have 25+15+6=46m£
hello
Good evening, as an Arsenal supporter for more than 30 years, i have been coming onto this site for last 2 weeks and it is becoming quite obvious that arsenal fans are becoming quite frustrated with transfer dealings, therefore i feel the need to reveal two imminent arrivals
writing this would get me sacked if my bosses were to find out, therefore i cannot reveal my source,
2nd August – Arsenal FC will announce a double signing
David Villa from Valencia and Daniele De Rossi – AS Roma will be announced with Phillipe Senderos and Emmanuel Eboue leaving to join Fiorentina
like i said i cannot reveal my source, only that with my line of business there is no room for rumour, just fact, we knew of Thomas Vermaelen signing a week before he did as well as Alexander Hleb, Thierry Henry and Lassana Diarra long before being announced by the british media
Arsenal FC pay a cash fee to both clubs in order for a confidentiality agreement to be signed by both parties
Carlos Vela also is to be loaned to Fulham along with Armand Traore to Birmingham or Portsmouth leading the race
I’m not sure what game you were watching mate. I thought Song did pretty well. And Senderos seems very interesting. He’s just a bit slow though. But He’s strong in the air. He gives it all. And he’s one of Cesc’s best mates.
Mayank/Kelsey:
Wha t I’m driving at is that you judge a player’s performance level against opposition you are likely to meet week in week out in a competitive situation. i.e. over the course of a premier league campaign. Additionally you won’t learn anything new about how good your players after a few games against semi-professional players in late July. Our failings and areas of weakness were all too apparent last season so the longer you wait, during pre season, to address those squad shortcomings the later the true benefit of the reinforcements to the first team(and I don’t mean reserve or youth teams – I don’t give a monkeys about the youths and reserves as the first team is 90% what matters to me as an Arsenal fan) will take longer to coalesce by which time the other teams vying to take our top 4 place may have go themselves in front of us.
What annoys me is that for the last 3 or 4 years Wenger persistently leaves his transfer dealings late so we are playing catch up with squad readiness when the season kicks off, hence last season’s catastrophic start.
annoy mous?
@ sami, how can anyone in their right mind suggest Upson as a signing option for Arsenal. He is poor on the ball, He failed to be the dominant CB we needed @ b4 we sold & bought Campbell instead, as slow as you get, poor 1v1 defender. He is @ his level with Whufc, if there was depth of world-class in England, he wouldnt get anywhere near the England team.
Bharath, same game as you mate… Song was shite.
Sorry but I can not see Villa leaving Spain and signing for us… only 3 teams can secure his services.. Real Madrid, Barcelona or Liverpool (because of Rafa B’s Spanish connections) plus De Rossi will not depart Roma!!
So v funny annoymous
More likely Huntelaar and Matuidi
Redbearer, Villa would be the most ridiculous signing in our history…
that would atleast be 60 mill!!!
not happening!!!
Choy, if we had £60mill to spend… would you spend it on one striker?
hello grovers. have we got 16mil yet from the kolo deal???
also has anyone heard of Daniele De Rossi being on our player website with the No: 13 shirt plus beiong on the wiki page aswell??
could somone be winding us up?
Yeaha Pedro… so unrealistic, the pair probably retail as choy says @ 60 odd mil.. hmm I have a strong feeling that some signings are imminent tho!
Pedro..
if i had 60 mill i would blow it on a defensive midfielder and a defender
no way pedro!!
i would buy a Cm and a defender first… scoring goals are the least of our problems..
raif.. i think it is a windup.. Roma said no to madrid, why would they sell to us?
the ultras would assassinate the roma directors!!!
HAHAHAHA the Ultras.. i didnt think of them lol
I feel some cheer is required…
http://arsenalyouth.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/match-report-maidenhead-united-1-arsenal-xi-7-young-gunners-run-riot/
and even vermaelen hasn’t received a squad number, how the fack would de rossi get one before him?
not to mention the blogger didn’t get a screenshot of the number 13!!
Hasnt Vermaelen been given no.31.
The number allocation at the club are shite too. A little organisation isnt much to ask for ffs. I mean if we dont win any trophies we might as well have everything else perfect.
Give Gallas 13 for his final year, 10 to Arshavin, 2 to sagna, 3 to clichy (or gibbs), 5 to Vermaelen and just take Silvestres number off him.
As I said two weeks ago on here:
If we sell Kolo when Chelsea reject and even worse….
EVERTON REJECT A BID.
That makes us cunts.
No doubt all the fucking retrospective wankers are saying “its a great deal”
Fucking bollocks.
We are a selling club.
The booing will start after the citeh game in september.
Mark my words.
Arsene is a fuckwit.
Whatever he has done is in the past.
Where he is taking us is in the future.
The current is him being a cunt.
Thats a reality people will soon realize.
yeah Stu i would give Arshavin the 10 shirt in a heart beat.
I actually enjoyed being a gooner but to be fair our fans are like all others, fucking delusional wankers.
Living with lucy in the sky with diamonds.
at the moment we sound like scousers.
give it 2 years and well be spurs fans.
what wankers.
its a sad sad day.
David Villa and Daniella Di Rossi?
Ha Ha Ha
*laughing like Boycie in Only Fools and Horses*
test.. save some of that Ammo for the board aswell mate. they aint squeaky clean either
Apart from JT being their Captain and Lescott being one of their best players you mean? Kolo isnt the player he used to be. And with 1 year left on his contract 15m is a good amount. Especially when thats what we payed for arshavin. Toure is regrettably past it. It seems he isnt 100% committed anymore, why else would he ask for a transfer in January.
I’ll defo be sad to see him go, especially to those cunts, but maybe its his time. He probably wouldnt be a starter anymore anyway.
Wait until tuesday next week and if no signings are announced then we can start to protest… but there’s more going on here than meets the eye imo! Otherwise who wants to watch us get beat every week.. not me!
Guys, since I’m unable to watch City’s matches, one question. Was Kompany any good this season. I have always liked him.
Good evening grovers
Maciek, i think he’s better than song or denilson.
Not very great though
whats all this about de rossi on the site.
i would spend all the eboue ade toure sende money on villa in a heartbeat!!!
Kompany is good, not great. I used to like him but clearly he isnt that good at defending. Otherwise City wouldnt ave played him in midfield and shit Richards and Onouha in defence ahead of him.
Stu @ 22:57
I agree big time mate. i just think its wrong Gallas having the no. 10 . The sooner it Arshavin gets it the better
Just please don’t let us sign that Chamakh twunt… if we do i can not see myself enjoying him diving around the pitch faking injuries after minimal player contact!
Arsenal players used to be good role models and then Adebayor came along and spoilt the clubs image.. made us look like mugs for increasing his wages and then not working for his wage on the pitch where it matters! These type of prima donna tosspot footballers are not wanted by the fans of Arsenal FC imo… only players with a decent set of principles may apply because AFC stands for greatest and only the morally best should deserve to be worshipped by us their adoring fans!
AA #10… Too fookin right.. Nite all
nite Red
That guy did sound quite convincing, must admit. Paying a confidentially sum sounds like something we would do.
Night Redbearer….agree with your last post aswell. I hate anyone that isnt honest, loyal and hardworking. It hate those cunts who mess about on the pitch diving, complaining andmaking a mockery of the good image the club has.
Maciek kompany is no centre mid, he looks like a centre back playing in midfield, as senderos did, his distribution under pressure, and his turning circle, agility etc was very similar to sendy yesterday as well. He could end up as a very good centre back, but he’s nothingy as a DM, he won’t start for City this season i’d doubt, certainly not in DM regularly.
Thanks. Also, good night guys!
so guys with Gallas with one year left on his contract what do we do with him? keep and then lose him on a free or try and sign hip up ofr another 2/3 years?
Nite Red.
Night Maciek.
raif i think he’s being kept for one more year, to help vermaelen out in his first season, then he’ll be gone on a free next summer, with someone else coming in to play alongside vermaelen, whether it’s song/jd/sendy if he’s kept, or someone bought.
Raif i have a feeling if and when Toure goes, Gallas will sign a one year extension. That will give Wenger time to search for a proper replacement
Raif, Gallas has made it quite clear that he will leave on a free next summer. I fucking hate players doing that and there is nothing we can do about it because Wenger only offers a 1 year extension.
So either lose him for nothing next summer OR sell him this summer and reinvest the money we get. Either way we are set to lose a good defender.
And with all the (supposed) movement about to happen in our defence its probably best we hold onto him.
Oh or Bartley goes on loan this season or stars in the League Cup, and comes through as the next Ferdinand, starting from next season alongside Vermaelen
A..
Hmmmm i think you may be right there..
Isnt Bartley a little too young to play first team football regularly?
Dont think Gallas wants to be at Arsenal really…
vermi, hange, galli and djourhou
sorted, sell the rest
annoymous Says:
July 28, 2009 at 22:34
Good evening, as an Arsenal supporter for more than 30 years, i have been coming onto this site for last 2 weeks and it is becoming quite obvious that arsenal fans are becoming quite frustrated with transfer dealings, therefore i feel the need to reveal two imminent arrivals………what a great story,can’t wait for it to NOT happen,i suppose we will see tho all in good time
Gallas, Vermaelen, Senderos, Toure
sorted, sell the rest…oh erm wait…
Switch Song for Toure….sorted.
annoymous = ANNOYMostOfUS
Yeah kinda Stu, depends just how good he is!! If he’s a wonder-player then he could play at that age, the next rio/adams – that’s a long shot though!!
I hope that someone else comes in this summer, so that he gets accustomed to the club and plays the odd game, so he’s in a better position to take over when gallas is done, but it could well be jd or song who’s earmarked to partner vermaelen, hope not though.
Yeah i’d be very happy with that Stu, good set of centre backs there. Would still rather someone better came in than song, jd, and senderos, though I’m envisaging the perfect defender there so maybe unlikely.
Either Juhasz or Van Damme (both anderlecht) would be a good choice because of their age but i think both are prefered left siders and we already have Vermaelen bought so they seem unlikely.
villa arshavin rvp eduardo
sell the rest
Bruno Alves Stu? Zapata? Marchena?
walcott nasri rosicky vela wilshire
sell the rest….
ahhhhh
i see what wengers doing
Stu I think if a centre back comes in it’s gonna be a young player, someone who’s happy to sit on the bench whilst they adapt this season, and wait patiently for Gallas to move on next summer, when he can join Vermaelen at the heart of the defence.
I wonder about Zapata Maciek, especially if kolo goes I could see a younger player like him coming in, as in whoever we bring in will be a quick, powerful defender, who can play right back as well as centre back.
Do know what guys it is kinda sad to see Toure go , at the same time i feel its for the good of the club. If and i mean if Wenger make the kinda of signing we all know we need, a big tough tackling bastard. I will be happy
Yes A. Zapata is great.Well, at least better than everyone we have.
duno if its posted. but here’s the photoshopped pic of de rossi
http://img.skitch.com/20090728-tb7h6p1mwt8ci8ktx1k5ysfw5.jpg
A – with our injury recird they wont have to stay on the bench for long anyway they would be first choice by january
Almunia
Sagna Hangeland Gallas/Vermy Clichy
Theo Cesc De Rossi Rosicky
RVP Arshavin/Eduardo
Subs-Micah Richards, Vela, Diaby,
LETS GET DE ROSSI EVERYBODY! HAY!
I heard that Zapata is pretty lazy…heard it on here todau actually.
god even seeing silvestres face in that squad page makes my blood boil!
I agree totally A . Zapata is the type of playa we need . He is young but a monster of a defender.
I think Wenger is keeping Silvestre around to keep Gallas company.
I’ve only seen a bit of Zapata, not saying I think he’s who we should sign. From what I’ve seen of him he looks awesome, but then again you could look at bits of Richards and think they’re awesome so it doesn’t mean much!
Long as we don’t go for Hangeland, which I’m sure we wouldn’t, then I’m happy!
Silvestre need to go simple as. I did’nt really rate the guy at his peak at Manscum utd.
Ok, now I’m really gone. Night guys!
I dunno HTH – at his peak Silvestre was a very good premiership player, though never top top class. I’m happy for him to stay as long as he doesn’t play, his experience will be useful in the dressing room, but he shouldn’t get any time on the pitch, and i doubt he would.
nite maciek
selling toure for the same price as we paid for arshavin
It’s absolutely ridiculous isn’t it face!! Not been the same player for a few years, one year left on his contract, and he would have been a sub this year, and we’re gonna get that much money for him, incredible.
A your right about richards . But I do watch Serie A quite a bit . He a good defender postional aware, strong and has pace . If he can adapt to the premiership . We will have to see, like with all players.
how does wenger get away with it?
this could be the last summer we mug a club off with has beens.
41M for 2 players of to the ACN for maybe 2 months
what the hell are city thinking? its beyond bizzare but great for us
Yeah HTH, i’ve not seen enough of him to have a valid judgement, but what I’ve seen i’ve been impressed with, would be good foil for Vermaelen too
I dont know A, i think Silvestre has no actual use at the club. Just because he is experienced doesnt make him a good player, not does it mean he is a leader on the pitch or off it.
You are either a leader or you’re not and imo its pretty obvious that he isnt one.
So August 2nd, 2 signings are going to be announced? True? False? If true, who?
It had better not be Chamakh and Matuidi. We should be after much better than those 2.
It’s not being a leader, it’s having been there and done it. You can see when you hear him speak that he’s an intelligent bloke, and has alot of years at the top that he’s learnt alot from, and can pass on that knowledge to kids. He obviously has a use in the club, its just whether that use can justify his being employed purely for off the pitch, though he’d be very much the worst case scenario in terms of playing.
We wouldn’t get any money for him if we sold him, and he won’t be on massive wages, so there’s nothing to be gained by letting him go, best just to keep him, maybe he’ll do his coaching badges this year too act as a bit of a player-coach
Yeah Face, when i really started to think about , i pissed myself . If they try to mount a challenge as soon January comes they are fucked.
Please please please if it’s true let one of them be Matuidi, as for the other one, who knows! Hopefully a very good young centre back to take over from Gallas next summer
Don’t suppose anyone popped to maidenhead for the arsenal XI game?
I honestly think the concept of Wenger being some man obsessed with youth is bullshit. He has had minimum funds and with minumum funds, youth is the most efficient way to build a team. Now that he has sold Ade and probably toure, he wont have minumal funds. Everybody knows that youth is potential, and that already established players are better. Its not secret. Do you really think a manager who took a team undefeated through a season doesnt realize that youth is risky? No. I would expect to see some already proven players sign come August 15
The possibility of him playing, even in the worst case scenario, is enough to warrent selling him. And he is taking up a spot that anyone else could be in. He doesnt deserve to play for us.
I dont care what he has done in his career, he is fucking shit and no amount of experience will change that. He was last resort last season and played about 20games and fucked us over with one of the worst games/goals ratio ever seen. He is a shambolic excuse for a top level(CL) footballer. I just hate the fucker for wasting space at our club.
I wonder luke – imagine if he just pulled a de rossi out of the bag and shocked everyone!
Stu, Matuidi he is not a bad player, but he is one for the future as always. Forget Numbchucks he is crap.
you lot really falling for that 2nd of august shit
I mean, if you look at the past 2 signings he’s made, 16 million and 12 million-not exactly cheap transfers. Anyone see a trend?
I hope its true BBK, but im not that stupid.
It doesn’t matter how good he is on the pitch stu with regards to his experience off the pitch. He’s been at the top for a long time, is very intelligent, and has wisdom to pass on to the kids. He isn’t taking up a space that someone else would, he’s just an extra head in the changing room that can be nothing other than good for the squad. I’d rather he played centre back than JD anyways, but either way, there’s nothing to be gained by getting rid of him, as he isn’t considered a first teamer who if he left would be replaced.
Don’t let your hatred of him blind you to the fact that his influence in the changing room can be nothing other than positive. I don’t want nor expect to see him play many if any games for us this season, but it’s always good to have an old head around.
lies as always luke.
no bbk, noone is falling for it, people are just saying IF it’s true who would it be, just pure speculation
I wonder if the reason the Matuidi transfer was delayed was because of the ade interest – Wenger was going to sign Matuidi, but then got more money out of nowhere, so decided to move for someone higher profile.
ahh just speculation that old chestnut hey
De rossi is a good player . Gokan Inler is better though, in my opinion any way.
Really HTH?? I was told Inler was shit this season in serie a?? De Rossi is one of the best centre mids around imo, not seen enough of inler, but never thought much of him.
If Matuidi came, I’d be happy, he’s a fuckin General.
Damn it A, let it go. We have been linked once with Matuidi this summer and that was imo a SSN fuck up. I dont know how you are so convinced and you admit yourself that you havent seen him so i dont understand why you think he is sooooo good.
My opinion of De Rossi is that he is an italian Randall. Good passer but makes some horrible challenges.
A , Inler didnt play amazingly neither did De rossi imo. But inler physical presents is more like whaT we need
Just from everything I’ve been told Stu, every description I’ve heard describes him as exactly what we need, apart from the height, and I’ve not heard a single person who’s actually watched him regularly have a single bad word to say about him
True actually stu – de rossi is a bit of a dick, though to say he’s the italian randall is excessive!
Yes A, probably over doing it with the Randall comparison but i couldnt think of anyone else that is talented but a dirty cunt.
LOL , Stu
Stu, correction, if I may: Randall has no feckin’ talent, he’s shite…
morning all,
so Toure off in the next 24 hours and we will have 40mil in the bank, doubt any of that will be spent!
Roy Keane Stu?!
Randall has some talent, but not THAT much!!
Evo yep, a new DM is on his way, just wonder who it’ll be!
Now now SUGA, i hate that twat Randall as much if not more than anyone else. My hate is probably a tad irrational but even i recongise that he has some talent. He just wastes it by being a dirty fucker who is over confident in his ability and makes so many potentially career threatening tackles. I fucking hate that gowl…and his face makes it even worse!
morning Evo . I really hope it gets spent . Because with that money Wenger could make us Champions again.
I bookmarked this analysis by Gabriele Marcotti an age ago and it automatically pops up everyday with my football file
http://timesonline.typepad.com/thegame/2008/11/the-enforcers-w.html
usually ignore it but today re-read it
most of it still makes sense
Randall is a technically gifted player, great passer, but he seems to really switch off and do stupid stuff, trying to make himself look better than he is.
Reminds me of a certain David Bentley……..
Dont be ridiculas A! Randall is nowhere near as good as Keane. Randall is just a cunt, at least Keane made a living out of it. I doubt Randall will…maybe in league 1, if he’s lucky.
i would love us to spend it, but not sure? wenger is the most cagey person we know, just watched his interview from after the game and the only piece of evidence is Toure is off today, but signings may or may not come in the next few days or next few weeks!
Sion , do know what i was thinking the same thing. He reminds of that twat.
No I was talking about De Rossi Stu!!
You said you couldn’t think of someone with alot of talent, who was a dirty fucker, to compare De Rossi to, which is why you mentioned Randall – I was saying Keane was a very talented but dickheadish footballer who would fit those criteria to compare with De Rossi, not Randall!!
Randall should make a very good championship career, whether we like him or not, and very possibly a lower end of the table premiership career. He’s a poor man’s bentley, and I doubt he’ll play for England, but he’s a much more talented boy than the likes of Sidwell and Muamba
each and every time I saw Randall playing he was the worst AFC player inside the stadium, let alone the goddamn pitch
no wonger Derby would not have him – they have one of those, his name is Robbie Savage
Evo , it is that way because he does’nt like people to know jack shit. just like rest of the club at all levels . We are left in the dark .
Evo all the things Wenger has said and done recently point to a DM coming in, playing senderos at DM, saying that we’ve had to play centre backs (plural) in midfield, and saying we’ve got 7 centre backs, (so counting song as a centre back in both cases, not a midfielder), and he pretty much said there will be additions, just doesn’t necessarily know what positions and when
A,
If you dont want Sylvestre to play,why wouldnt you want Arsene to get rid of this dead wood.If he is there in the dressing room to advice the youngsters,whats the role of a coach?I highly doubt Arsene will offload him,because he is so stubborn,that he would never accpet his mistakes.
And we are after a goal keeper foe £3m.Another one for the future.Why cant we try to have a successful present than aiming for the past.If it were a defender who was available for this cut price,he would have certainly ignored him.
“when the time has come we WILL do something”, that’s the bit of the interview i’m most optimistic about, no fucking about saying we might or might not sign people, we will do something.
PK fair enough then A. But i dont think De Rossi will be that good either. But i suppose its a fair comparison…in a way.
As for the cunt himself…i just cant stand the fucker. I hate having to see him in an arsenal shirt and take it for granted, thinking he is the dogs bollocks. Im not normally a violent person (aggressive maybe but not violent) but if i met him chances are i would smack him. He isnt good enough for arsenal and it annoys me when he gets starts ahead of Ramsey, Coquelin and others in the CC.
Hello guys are we all still up or is it me?
Jaguar, Tim Krul (the keeper we are linked with for 3m) is anything but cut price. He doesnt even get on for Newcastle ffs. How shit does someone need to be to not start for them.
And if a young defender was available for 3m im sure Wenger would go for him.
Because we’re losing a lot of experience at the back Jaguar, there’s nothing wrong with keeping an experienced head in the changing room, someone for the kids to go to if they want advice, he could be like a player coach. He’s not going to be on very big wages, so we’ve got very little to gain from losing him, much less than we’d gain from his experience. Otherwise our only experienced defender left if Gallas, and you’d imagine he’s far from approachable!
The krul thing seems weird to me, even if he is very highly rated we’ve got Fabianski coming through, and mannone after that, got young keepers already, though if he was that good for the dutch u21s maybe be could be a shock wonder player. I doubt it though, does seem like an odd one to me.
I have no doubt that Wenger will buy players. Its just a matter of when . Because now there is no excuse.
With our club is almost like unwrapping a christmas present , you never know if you’ll like it our not.
Stu I think as centre mids go De Rossi is one of the most overrated around, if we could get anyone I’d love us to get him, but it would never happen because he’d cost £30 mil or so.
With randall it’ll be interesting what happens with him this season now the loan to derby has fallen through
Gunnersmith
I am a jobless gooner who has been refreshing this page,every 5 seconds,and will be awake till the end of the transfer window,only to see,that we’ve got rid of two more players and read the manager’s post
“The team is young,and experienced by one more year.We will be benefitted by the experience of two players,who are like new signings,ie Sylvestre and Senderos”.
Gooners are truly a lucky lot.
A most of the time i disagree with you and yep once again i do. if im wrong or you’re wrong, thats ok, were on a blog where you can debate.
Senderos has the ball in his court whether to stay or go. Wenger needs to keep him in the shopping window and fit, so hence he gets minutes on the pitch in midfield. The defenders who will start the season are the ones getting the minutes in their starting positions – Vermalen and Gallas, with Djourou and Silvestre as back up. Wenger knows Song is very versatile, so he is back up as well, but does not necessarily need to play at CB in the warm up game as he is getting his fitness in the midfield.
I think we will buy one more player, probably a striker.
i do hope im wrong and we buy 1 striker, 1 defender and 1 midfielder.
Silvestres exoerience counts for nothing because he is so shit. I think not having him able to play for us is a massive gain, compared to any questions the kids might have.
Honestly, what could they possibly need to know that one of the midfielders of coaching staff dont know.
Evo in the interview Wenger says both that we have 7 centre backs, which has to include song, and that we have centre backS playing in midfield, that means more than just senderos, so he counts him as a centre back!
We’re just speculating so only time will tell, but i’m absolutely convinced that a centre mid will be coming in.
Silvestre hasn’t gotten a single minute at centre back so far….
I hope you’re wrong too Evo and we buy a beast of a defensive leader and an experienced quality midfield general. And both know what it takes to win tropies at the highest level.
Well then Jaguar Happy refreshing cos this transfer window tou’re gonna need to refresh evert 2 sec you dont want to miss the action do ya?
You mean apart from the game when he played left back….right A.
stu that makes no sense!! regardless of how crap he is playing now, it doesn’t take a single thing away from his experience and the advice he can give to the kids.
He’d be able to pass on the knowledge that only defenders who’ve played for a number of years at the top level have acquired, that midfielders, nor general coaches would know.
He’s a very intelligent, experienced player, don’t let your hatred of his crap playing side blind you from that!!
Wikipedia lists de Rossi as…
“a product of the Arsenal F.C youth system (where his father, former Roma player Alberto De Rossi, is a coach”
huh stu??
Evo I don’t want a striker, there’s noone we could get that would be worth it imo. A centre mid and a centre back and i’m very happy!
I totally agree Evo. if we can get 1 striker, midfielder and a defender. There will be no stopping us from winning any trophy we set our minds to
A, but its not like he has privilegded(sp) information that no other defender or player or coach at the club has. He isnt the messiah. Letting him go is the best option.
Or at least release him and change his title to coaching staff so his wages get dropped and there is no possibility f him getting a game for us.
I think most people would welcome huntelaar if he came, he cant be getting minutes for holland with RVP if he is rubbish, it would also create excitement around the club which is something money cant buy, or perhaps it can? lol.
If a defensive mid comes in, im over the moon, but i dont think there is massive quality out there to buy.
Will probably be Bassong on the cheap from Newcastle and he might wait his chance too.
Anonymous blog sounded interesting I wonder if Geoff knows the mysterious blogger? Doesn’t Geoff/Pedro screen Le Grove for imposters?
Obviously it’s not privileged information Stu, but every player with experience will bring something different, because of different experiences. Just because it isn’t privileged information doesn’t mean that everyone else knows it. Otherwise you wouldn’t need different coached, and experience wouldn’t exist because every player would know everything!!
Every wise head around the changing room will be beneficial to us imo, but I think it’s an agree to disagree moment. I just see absolutely no benefit from letting him go, but a potential positive in his staying.
silvestre has to go . i do not feel the club should waste it money on him. we can lighten the wage.
*its
el tel i’d be very surprised if it was bassong – he’s a left footed left sided centre back, and whoever we bring in would need to be a right footed right sided centre back, to play alongside vermaelen.
Silvestre is looking super fit, as opposed to the start of last season when he was not fit and out of form, i back him to be adequate back up for left back this season! He can help the guys in the dressing room with experience also!
gday El tel – whats this anonymous blog stuff, where do i find that?
Hi Evo
Spot on buddy, we can all speculate as much as possible but if there is no option for CM then he won’t buy. Wenger will not listen to who we think he should buy.
Its like a Championship Manager game on here at times with guys talking like they are the Manager.
Am I alone in slating Wenger for his tactics in game play rather than his Players.
El Tel, you take that back! I donjt want Bassong either..he is in the Chamakh bracket as far as im concerned.
A, fine so agree to disagree….but im right
el tel of course you aren’t alone in slating wenger for his tactics – on this blog wenger has been slated for absolutely everything under the sun, the recent bad weather was wenger’s fault in some people’s eyes! It’s just that there aren’t any proper games currently for people to slate wenger for the tactics, though some have still managed to slate the tactics in the pre season friendlies so far!
The transfer window is the main topic of conversation, so that’s the main thing wenger is currently slated for
Evo Hi Buddy
Check out what anon said at 22.34 mate
Evo on this site 22:34
Silvestre isnt super fit. He just played against some part timers with their star man being a 44 year old. And its pre season against poor opposition. Wait until he is in a defence against quality opposition and watch the goals fly in.
In fairness i’ve only seen 1 person actually criticising Wengers tactics this pre season.
A
I guessed you would oppose what I say about Bassong. I suppose your going to tell me Gallas is left footed are you. Does he not play left side?
I am not the person who is reporting our Manageers interest in Bassong but if he doesn’t fit in because he is left footed then I guess the reporters are guessing as usual.
Gunnersmith
The only action for gunners that has been happening this transer window,has been here.
A
If Sylvestre is here to pass his advice to the youngsters,why didnt Arsene persist with Gilberto,who could have played for us as well.I wont buy this crap of experience.The only reason,which I can swallow,is that Arsene bought him was down to FCUK(French Connections (in) U K).Pun deliberately intended.
Hi Stu
Wenger had the chances to win things with these Players last season and fucked up.
I left Wembley very dissapointed after getting beat by the Chav cunts. We had a great chance to beat them.
Also it was unforgiveable what he did v the Neanderthals up the road when we had them beat too.
If we are poor at defending then attack but he tries to protect small leads by bringing on defensive minded Players
He also perseveres with the likes of Diaby anywhere on the pitch just to keep him happy.
wow that 22.34 info is out of this world, imagine that shit, holey fuck a duck….cant be true…can it?
Facinating comment Evo even if it is a wind up it was very precise.
Jaguar I agree with you mate.
I hate Wnger for buying a Manc cunt into our Club.
He also let that Cunt Beckham spy on us the previous season he then buys another of their spies.
Fucking shit move.
Can you imagine the Chavs letting that Manc twat train with them the other year.
evo if it was true i’d be happy. More than likely could be bullshit
yeah there is a few things that leave to be desired by Wenger, but i was only the previous season we should have and nearly won the league. we just need to bring that back and finish of our seasons properly!
Silvestre cost next to nothing because he is shit and Fergie knew he would make our defence even worse. And suprise suprose it worked. I dont know what the stat is but its worse than a goal a game conceded when he played.
He is shit and there is no reason to buy/keep him. One of wengers most idiotic purchaces ever.
Honestly,I’m note the fiercest of AW’s critics.I’ve always been the fan of his style of play,and I do admire him for the way he has passed on his style of play down the generations.But wouldnt it be lame to assume that he is not prone to mistakes
Arsene,who doesnt offer more than 1 year contracts to players above 30,recruited an outcast from up north,for a two year deal,for warming the benches in the treatment room.
Well,I am lost,whenever I think of Sylvestre.I will be back in a while.
another row of dominoes about to fall…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1202676/Xabi-Alonso-flies-Spain-Real-Madrid-given-48-hours-complete-26m-deal-Liverpool-midfielder.html?ITO=1490
ours for 16m last summer, the title and a 10m profit this summer
i wonder why this anonymous bloke says the 2nd of August? Its a Sunday to start with and we play Valencia the next weekend, im very intrigued!
el tel – no gallas is right footed, which is why he can play either side, bassong is left footed and can only play on the left side, and there’s no way he could partner vermaelen. I’d be very surprised if there wasn’t interest in Bassong at one time, but that was before we signed Vermaelen, when we were looking at a number of left footed centre backs.
The latest press reports are just the journalists doing what they do and bringing up old stories because kolo is going, that’s it, bassong isn’t a possibility.
Jaguar Gilberto wanted to go because he wasn’t happy with not playing first team football, otherwise I’m sure wenger would have much preferred him to have stayed.
yeah evo, that’s a good point, i thought it was a monday, pretty ridiculous then! Unless they’re to be announced at the emirates cup game, but that would be very un-arsenal!
Liverpool always fcuk up their trades, why would you sell Alonso?
It’s weird isn’t it evo – he’s said to be a complete dick, which is why they wanted rid last summer, but after the season he just had, he must be a complete and utter cock for them to be willing to let him go!
A
Matie,you havent answered my question about Gilberto,Thank you.
I did above Jaguar – Gilberto wanted to leave, so Wenger let him, simple as that, Wenger would have loved him to have stayed I’m sure, especially with Denilson taking his place – He was Denilson’s mentor the whole time they were at the club together, could’ve helped him through the tough times!
yeah it was an amazing season for Alonso, he was their best player! ive never heard of him being a wanker.
cant ever remember a player being announced at a game, but if this rumour has any truth, at least we dont have long to wait, its next week!
Wenger was very cagey in his interview, which is fucking normal, but you did get the sense that something will happen!
Well im off..night all…
night stu
A
A diving wanker who played for Red Devils wanted to leave last summer.The red nose,held on to him,and reaped a PL and a Micky mouse cup,thanks to his onfield shenanigans.So it does imply,that Arsene doesnt have that tactical nous or man management skill,compared to the Red nose,innit?
Keeping one of if not your most important player isn’t quite the same as keeping a squad player against his wishes just for his experience in the dressing room Jaguar!! Wenger did the same with Ade as Fergie did with Ronaldo, and look what happened!! neither were half the players this year they were the year before anyways, even if utd did win the league ronaldo was still a shadow of his former self.
No it doesn’t imply that at all, Fergie has nothing on Arsene imo, he’ll be a legend when he retires, but noone will be able to know how he’d do when not given massive advantages over everyone else.
Anyways, i’m off to bed too
nite people
anyone see this?
http://www.downswinging.com/wordpress/2009/07/de-rossi-new-arsenal-signing-defender-swap-in-the-works/
A
I have been going to Arsenal since 1970 and worked there for past 15 years so please don’t dismiss everything I suggest.
I am not a little no nothing kid who plays Championship Manager and knows all the Players but I do know what I see and read.
I don’t know you mate but you write like you have the answer to everything and all others are wrong.
Does the A stand for Arsene? or are you the Oracle?
I don’t always think I am right but like some others I do have strong opinions.
Ethan hated Ade I hate Coco the Clown Almunia.
I never said Huntelaar was the be all and end all but you dismiss him because you don’t like him or more to the fact you don’t like him because others do.
Have you seen him play and if so how many times and was it for 90 mins or just you tube clips.
To be honest I haven’t seen him play apart from the limited time he had at the Euro’s but his record is seconnd to none in whatever side he plays, fast or slow he bangs them in.
I really couldn’t care if we buy Bassong or not and agree he wouldn’t be the answer but for you to say the deal is dead is very arrogant as unless you are Wenger how would nyou really know.
Bassong certainly is a Wenger type signing as he is French and cheap he would sit around and play 20 games as understudy to Gallas and eventually replace him.
It never matters much to Wenger as to which foot the Player uses as he more often than not he plays people on the opposite side or out of position like Pires, Overmars, Henry etc.
I do come on this site every day and most times just to read the comments. I have been on this site for a season and half at best of my knowledge and enjoy the banter.
I will though clear off again as I did for many weeks due to getting shot down by yourself and then I will see you impose your thoughts as you probably see it on someone else.
You repeat the same things time and time again on the hope that you will win the argument you started.
Good Luck mate.
Tel.
Nite Guys
Where is thatv fellow A from, I have met some know it alls in my time but he takes some beating.
Ronaldo had a great season at the Mancscum and destroyed us at our place in CLSF they won the Prem I seem to remember too.
Ade was a cunt who really didn’t want to play.
Never mind I can’t be bothered arguing as it won’t change fuck all.
yep you have been around as long as me El Tel, thats for sure. well said old son!
I would be in a quandry to choose Villa or Huntelaar, from my limited viewing of them, i like both.
lol – get a load of Henry Landsbury’s profile pic cut and paste in for De Rossi….shithouse attempt!
http://img.skitch.com/20090728-tb7h6p1mwt8ci8ktx1k5ysfw5.jpg
el tel I don’t always think I’m write, i’m just writing opinions.
I don’t dismiss Huntelaar because I don’t like him, I find it pretty ridiculous that people do that sort of thing, decide they “like” or “dislike” players so then try and defend that beyond reason.
I saw Huntelaar play maybe 5 or 6 of the matches he started for Madrid, and for Holland a few times as well. I had absolutely no opinion on him before I saw him play, but having seen him play enough times to see that he’s incredibly slow, and his link up play and all round game is very limited, regardless of his finishing being absolutely exceptional, his limitations mean that he’d never fit into our system.
I dismiss him because I’ve seen him play and have an opinion on him from analysing that, no other reason.
With Bassong I can’t think of a single central defensive partnership that has two left footed players, ever…. You can have two right footed centre backs, because they can adapt, but you’re always weaker on your weaker side. As the majority of footballers are right footed, you can’t have two left footed centre backs, because it just couldn’t work unless one of them is very two footed so could play on the right.
imo Wenger was interested in Bassong, as with Sakho, along with Vermaelen, because he wanted a young left footed centre back, and he got one in Vermaelen, so I’d be absolutely shocked if another one came in.
What footed players are is completely different with attacking to defensive players too.
lol el tel there’s really no need to throw your toys out of the pram
don’t just say things that are wrong though – ronaldo was good last season, but wasn’t half the player he was the season before, had loads of tantrums etc.
The situation was almost identical to ade, apart from ade was much worse to start with!
evo where did you find that??! That where the story is eminating from??
which story mate?
just google De Rossi for the last 24 hours and you will see the momentum that is starting to gather for it…heaps of blogs about it now
lol…this is the latest edit on his wiki page…
There were rumours that De Rossi’s name appeared on the official Arsenal FC website in the squad list, however this has been confirmed few hours ago that he signed for Arsenal Fc on a 4 years deal for an undiscloded amount thought to be around 24 million pounds the gooners recently sold their striker Emmanuel Adebayor to Manchester City FC at a similar amount.
evo re alonso being a wanker apparently everyone hates him in football, he’s a complete dick on and off the pitch, which is why there were so many horrific tackles on him, he’s the person who’s victim of most red card tackles by some distance over the last couple of years. Just what people say though regarding it being because he’s a nob, maybe they just want to stop him playing, does seem very weird the way Benitez was willing to offload him and bring in Barry though, a far inferior footballer
ha imagine if it was true evo, that’d just be an amazing thing to wake up to!
i am salivating right as we speak!
take it with a grain of salt i suppose in order not to get the hopes up! Someone will be in, just when and who remains to be seen!
yeah evo, apparently 5 red card challenges on him just this season, and loads of incidents of people getting away with trying to hurt him in tackles or other little things too, it’s weird – no idea what he’s done to piss EVERYONE off so much!
Yeah i agree evo, i just hope it’s sooner rather than later! I’d guess that it’s unlikely to be this week, as everyone is in Austria, but as soon as possible after the emirates cup so that there’s as much time to prepare as possible before the start of the season, especially the Champs League qualifiers. Gotta get deals with players departing all sorted asap so we can get recruiting
id say by UK time thursday morning the Toure deal will be announced
what baffles me is why Toure still played in the recent game at centre back? Maybe that was part of the deal to keep him fit, or maybe smokescreen that he was going, but not to alert us/anyone right until the final moment?
I’d guess it was just because Wenger treated him just as he would any Arsenal player, until he was officially off, so if he wasn’t to go to City then he’d be as fit for the new season as possible. This could end up being a very eventful couple of weeks transfer wise if senderos and eboue follow kolo out the door
yeah we would be going from no-one leaving the squad as stated by the club to 4-5 out plus the guys de-listed also
i thought the hannover game was on thursday, awesome that it’s later!!
yeah evo, i guess when wenger said his main priorities were keeping the squad together, he meant the members of the squad he wanted to keep! If senderos and eboue so follow kolo and ade out the exit door it’ll be a pretty big overhaul, hope we’ll cope with it.
i bet ya it was a spuds knob who posted that stuff as anonymous!
either that or just an attention seeker evo, i reckon there’s a 95% likelihood it was a complete load of gibberish!
yeah id say the likelihood is way out there, but its good to dream for a few minutes
yeah evo, just imagine if that was announced out of nowhere
We’ll see what’s happening in the next 24 hours … we have many centre-backs, seven centre-backs and I’m in a position where we have to play some in midfield… but of course Kolo is a very good player – we’ll see what happens in the next 24 hours.”
Is Kolo Cesc’s new partner?
Happy birthday Geoff, but I thought you were older than 35.
Well, I must admit that things are a bit jittery with me & the Gunners, unless Le Gaffer uses the “new found” funds to bring in quality.
As for the unmentionable former twat, I thinks its time to get over that & move forward (like Australia’s economy is) I mean hasn’t enough shit been poured on him already. Don’t get bitter, get better I say. The guy is gone for Gods sake, & everyone got what they wanted, him gone. Why continue the bitch about him.
I noted on another blog that someone said that Arswaxin should get a new way of celebrating. I agree, I think holding up 5 fingers after he has scored would be good, & that would be a positive step up from the 4 he held up after ending Liverwurst dream last season
I reckon AA23 could win the player of the year award if he has an uniterrupted campaign.
Anyway, buy, buy, buy please Le Prof, coz we now know you have money with the sale of Kolo & whats his name.
whats his name.
I like that
gday Gnarley,
5 finger salute would be awesome! im gonna pull up those pool highlights right now and watch the glorious 4 goals again and again!
So if gossip is to be believed…the 15m we’re gonna get from Citeh for Toure will be forwarded on asap to Fulham for Hangeland.
Amen to that I say.
Now for Huntelaar and the curious case of that much wanted DM!!
God please bring back football…i need it in my life right now.
Haha.
Patience son.
2 weeks ish.
icy, is there substance to this Hangeland gossip
& Huntelaar.
I too hope I wake up tomorrow to Arsenal v Everton.
Life is pretty useless without football.
evo, we did you a favour over the weekend, shooting down the bombers
ikon
The next match is Everton v Arsenal
but yes it can’t come round quick enough.
weren’t we linked with de rossi in the january transfer season… then, maybe there is some truth in the rumour that wenger is interested in him… but who the feck am i kidding ..
also, wasnt it nick that said he had heard that we were in for mata ( valencia ) via hearsay… is it possible that the valencia player was villa and not mata
unlikely though, the annoymous guy is probably a spud winding us up.
http://www.imscouting.com/global_news_item.aspx?id=2698
apparently another wiz-kid we are after..this time a brazilian
Gnarley…
I hope so mate…
We’d be awesome with them….
ARSENAL WILL BE BUYING BREDE HANGELAND SOON AFTER KOLO’S EXIT
BREDE HANGELAND will not rush to commit to Fulham.
The defender, 28, is a £12million Arsenal target but has two years left on his contract.
He said: “We’ll wait to see what happens.”
Rossi would be a very good signing imo but we would have to break the bank for him no doubt. I would expect 20-25 mill. If Wenger can pull one out of the hat by giving up Denilson and paying 16-18 I would be very very happy!!
kolo is leaving what do you people have to say about that scince nowadays you are all chaty chaty about everytging!!!!!!!!!!!????
Nice one Kenya, lets hope Le Gaffer is moving on that one.
Gnarley – yes you did mate, however we are still rubbish and not consistent enough to play finals football an attempt to beat the likes of the saints and the cats, although we should have beaten the saints that night!
Morning all….
morning, TAIG
You might of heard this too but just to add to the De Rossi thing…..An article yesterday said that De Rossi’s name appeared on Arsenal.com’s squad list with the number 13 (he wears 16 at Roma). Who knows. Can these things be kept that quiet? I’m not so sure. But then they say we we’re interested in Vucinic….perhaps we had people there but from De Rossi, not Vucinic??
SUGA3 – morning pal!
Jesus! Fulham didn’t win a game without Hangeland last term! The stat’s all say he was the man for them!
Hangeland for £10m + Senderdross
Daniel De Rossi for £20m
Both within our ‘budget’. Huntelaar might be a stretch then but then he would only be a luxury signing anyway!
Almunia
Sagna – Hangeland – Gallas – Clichy
De Rossi
Rosicky – Fabregas – Arshavin
RvP – Eduardo
De Rossi is just a hoax at best.
DM is the highest priority now. A striker and a defender may not be required.
Morning People…
De Rossi stuff was another creation of a cyber crazy Arsenal fan…and Wiki is not entirely reliable source too…so i’d not be too excited about that…
De Rossi won’t leave Roma.
And plus he’s kinda overrated!!
Morning Grovers,
When is the team coming back from Austria??
That’s a decent line up Tony..
You forgot Verm though
I know de Rossi isn’t coming. Roma, for some reason, seems to be a club that players find it very hard to leave! They are more like a family than a club I think. Totti has never wanted to leave, Aquilani didn’t want to leave, De Rossi turned down Utd I think, Vucinic has said he’d never leave. fair play to Roma for managing to keep their players happy when they win fuck all each year!
Iceman – Verm is back up for Gallas, the ball playing defender. DJ would be back up for Hangeland, the header winning defender.
I think TV has been bought now to learn the prem for a year until Billy G leaves next season and will then take up that role.
Inside – Must be today surely? Only 3 days until the Emirates Cup!
Roma hasnt tasted success much yet. The problem with Arsenal is we already have seen some great great success and hence the level of expectation is maybe sometimes ridiculously high.
It getting unbearable now. I want to back my team on top of my voice , but at present looking at the squad and how thin it is in the middle, and looking at the suspect defense, all I can muster is a lowly “Common”
like I have to back myself to back my club.
Common Arsene.
No Tony, we play one more before we come back, Hannover I think today.
Today we get to see more football?
Hannover FC vs Arsenal is it today?
Geoff – Ahh yeah, forgot about Hannover. Jeez, we’re cutting it tight aren’t we? At least the boys should be firing on all cylinders come August 15th!
Geoff – Any hints on today’s topic? Controvertial? Inspiring? Optimistic? Gloomy?
Roma can’t be succesfful with the Beast upfront
TAIG..
Yes its quite strange how they(ROMA) manage to keep players…..Even after having missed out on CL spot last season…
Only if we buy the right players, if we don’t buy, we will be so much weaker, players like RVP, Cesc and Arshavin will wonder why they bothered, I know I will.
Let’s have some controversy lad
Tony today is hopeful I think I would say, hopeful and positive, Wenger will like it and find it hard to argue the logic.
Iceman I forget to add, tinged with controversy!
With Toure all but gone, and news of Eboue leaving becomes reality, it would indicate that AW is generating cash to make at least two signings. The quotes from Grimandi about selling before buying also seem to back this up. With AW being the way he is we should not expect him to come out and say who he is planning to buy. There is just over a month left for transfers and after selling 3 important players I dont think AW will go into next season without bringing in reinforcement. I imagine things will start happening after we secure CL football.
Hangeland and Huntelaar are the right players!!
Funny thing isn not one DM has been mentioned/linked for while now….
Geoff – I’m sure we will lose all 3 of those players if we win nothing this season! Arsh & RvP will stay if we manage the FA Cup but Cesc needs the EPL or CL to convince him to stay! I’m pretty sure he still see’s Wenger as a father figure though. But now he’s a father figure that comes home drunk and beats his children and then tells people he fell down the stairs!
Geoff – Its sounds like this is going to be an attempt to woo Wenger?
Can’t wait mate….
My two cents, I feel Merida is kept as a secret backup to Cesc. I have not heard of anyone at the club who has been here for so long but never being loaned out nor sold. Merida is special.
iceman – We actually haven’t been linked with a single DM all summer! I think the only gossip has been blog generated with Matuidi at the beginning and then Cana. I’m still sad about Cana.
So would everyone be happy with spending the Toure dough all on Hangeland? Or even a Senderos plus 10 mill? The only time I saw the fellow play last term was when they played us and in the first match he was brilliant and even scored.
ikon – Ramsey is there for that role I think.
Like H.Simpson
LAzer – I think £10m + Senderdross is the best possible deal. We save some cash while still satisfying Fulham’s value of Hangeland. They get a CB in return. We reduce the number CB’s we have. Silvestre cant be gotten rid of but forgetting him we would have Gallas and Hangeland starting with TV and DJ as there back ups respectively!
iceman – but without the humour!
Ikon there was talk of Merida being loaned out just yesterday, funny you mentioned that. He said he would go out on loan if the boss desired. Also, I believe he has had a loan spell before as well.
Morning the Mousaillons
Ramsey isnt in the Fabregas mould I think, he is more like Gerrard. Although too soon to judge him. I would love to see him playing alongside Cesc. I bet they would make a fearsome Mid pair. like Xavi-Iniesta
Merida was loaned to Real Sociedad …
ikon – I dunno mate, Ramsey has a keen eye for that killer pass! The bonus being that he can score as well! His goal against England U21′s and then his assist were amazing!
Ohh yes my bad.
But that was just one loan stint isnt it? one season.
Cesc isnt irreplaceable, but he like Arsene has become the mark of Arsenal. I believe he brings golden luck whenever he plays.
ikon maybe thats’s the plan….
IF only Wenger would just once experiment Cesc-Ramsey, he would know what I am talking about.
Hopefully he will make that “mistake” once.
Morning all!
I second that taig, I hope that deal goes through the way you describe it. Btw not sure if you guys read this bit, Hodgson and Brede go way back and he was a large part as to why he chose Fulham. He is also considered one of the smartest players in the dressing room. When asked how it was adapting to the pl he said the speed was the big difference with 5’4 guys running the 100m in 10 secs, but the best way to deal with that is by using your head, meaning positioning and reading the game well. That would be a definite step up from big Phil imo.
LAzer – yeah, Brede played under Hodgson before in Norway. He knew how good he was and obviously new he could make it in the EPL. Hodgson is an under rated manager really.
I personally like Hodgson, a good no nonsense honest manager who has been around a bit and seems quite keen in the transfer market (with the sale of Bullard and all).
Phil Brown was stupid enough to bid for Bullard rather than Murphy.
NEW POST!
Arsenal utility player Emmanuel Eboue is set to become the latest player to leave the Gunners by signing a five-year deal with Fiorentina.
Full story: Daily Mirror
And he almost just bought Zamora of their hands as well but the move fell through, who btw imo is absolute pants!! Perhaps it was the case of once bitten for permatan man.
If you are reading this its 2010
Dan norris IS thomas bendtner