So on the day we hear the tragic news that old boy John Hartson has cancer we also hear from the opposite end of the scale, greed.
First of all John, everyone here on Le Grove wish you well, it will be a tough fight but you’re a fighter and we are with you every step of the way, good luck mate, our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.
Onto Ade, he whinged on that BBC interview with Garth Crooks that he can’t control what the papers say, so as he hasn’t come out and said the City rumours are untrue, we have to believe they are, if this is scotched on Arsenal.com I will be major league pissed off, as if it were untrue then this should have been bollocksed yesterday, but it wasn’t, so here goes.
So Ade, how does it feel you are every shite wannabe team’s second choice? Milan were slightly interested when Dzeko turned them down, but they never followed up on their interest. Then Man City, after being turned down by ‘has been’ Eto’o, have also turned to you, so you have been chased by two teams that wanted someone else first, have you no pride? And City aren’t even playing Champions league football!
Don’t get me wrong, I really hope this story is true, you were trouble at Monaco, you are trouble with Togo and if we keep you, you will disrupt this side no end, I would sooner you went and we bought in a world class defensive midfielder and a winger. To be honest I would swap you for that new Taylor made R9 Driver and a box of ProV1’s, but I don’t manage Arsenal, I only play football manager so that won’t happen.
Go with our blessing Ade, enjoy your money, I hope the City fans are more tolerant of your offsides than we are, but a word of advice, don’t headbutt Micah Richards, he might headbutt you back.
Arsene take the money and spend it, don’t use it for pay rises or to pay for Ivan’s new recruits, use it to strengthen the squad, but do it with class players, not more bargain basement troublemakers, make our team get excited, like they did when you signed Arshavin.
I was quite amused when Rednose was puzzled as to how the transfer market has gone ballistic, this is after he made £80 million by selling a player to Real Madrid, he is either mentally ill or quite stupid, I suspect somewhere in between after he signed happy crock Michael Owen.
Vieira to Spurs? How funny is that! Don’t hold your breath Harry, it won’t happen, once a Gooner, always a gooner.
So after yesterday’s chat about no more speculation, Adebayor has got us all buzzing, I have always rated his ability but hated his attitude and his inability to learn as well as his work rate.
Yesterdays picks as replacements were all midfield and wingers, almost none of you wanted Numchucks which does seem to be Wengers preferred choice, but many of you fancy the idea of Jeremy Toulalan, Matuidi, Cana or Inler with Hazard on the wing, an interesting debate and one that I believe will be decided before Saturday if Ade does indeed go.
Richards for Kolo and Ade plus £28mil anyone? I would! That way we could get in Nimbchucks, Matuidi, Hangeland and Hazard and still have change. The back line would be sorted then would it not, we could even sell Eboue as we would have ample cover?
I have to say though a forward line of Robinho, Adebayor and Tevez could do some damage, And finally how does it feel Shaun? You could have been a gooner once.
But Arsenal, not a penny less than £25mil and let’s hope him and Tevez enjoy playing in the Europa cup this season.
Have a great day Grovers, it could actually be an interesting one!
July 14, 2009 at 09:05
Bananas in pyjamas!!
July 14, 2009 at 09:06
1st Finally
July 14, 2009 at 09:06
bonjourno
July 14, 2009 at 09:06
ahhh adebayor
July 14, 2009 at 09:06
argh…only 2nd…
July 14, 2009 at 09:07
to be honest i would not be happy if badey moves to another club that could potentially push us for 4th if we are to settle for our default top 4 position. however, if we can challenge (still not convinced with the squad as it si) then he can go to Man Shitty
July 14, 2009 at 09:08
man city has a big problem. Motivation. Players naturally tend to care less when they’re making 150′000 a weak. So what if we lose this one, atleast I have 4 houses syndrome.
July 14, 2009 at 09:08
Ray, Ray, Ray……..
July 14, 2009 at 09:10
one more drink and I’ll move on
July 14, 2009 at 09:10
read this article on the bbc website. I read on here everyday and too find it very annoying that nothing comes out about our finances.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/2009/07/ive_obtained_a_copy_of.html
July 14, 2009 at 09:10
LETS SELL ADE AND NOT BUY A STRIKER
GREAT IDEA, THATS STRENGTHENING OUR TEAM
July 14, 2009 at 09:11
lets have a farewell gathering at the emirates of 60000 bidding our goodbyes to adebayor much like RM welcomed ronaldo and kaka…..
July 14, 2009 at 09:11
bi adebayor, hello matuidi and hazard. What about this lad noble?
July 14, 2009 at 09:11
Ideal World – Get rid of Ade to City, they wont make the Europa Cup, let alone the Champs League as long as Hughes is manager! Buy Cana, Hazard and Hangeland.
Real World – Get rid of Ade to City, they wont make the Europa Cup, let alone the Champs League as long as Hughes is manager! Wenger will buy Matuid and Chamakh. End of transfers. End of Champs League football. End of Arsene Wenger at Arsenal. End of Cesc Fabregas at Arsenal. End of an era. End of the world.
July 14, 2009 at 09:11
haha.
July 14, 2009 at 09:13
tony. Real world.
Ade to city. Buy Matuidi, no Chamakh. Wait for Pograbynk for a free transfer in January.
July 14, 2009 at 09:13
Pat V to Spurs ??????????????? You must be joking.
They have some front to even try this one…..I will be gutted if it happens!!
July 14, 2009 at 09:13
morning all….
July 14, 2009 at 09:13
if we get proper money for Adebayor we should be sorted.
The problem seems to be, we cant get players, or the players we want.
Personally, if Melo is still around, bring him in.
I dont think we need a striker, if we have Arshavin, Bendtner, Van Persie, Eduardo, Walcott and Vela.
July 14, 2009 at 09:13
if Ade leaves we need a striker and DM both world class players
we can also get rid of a few
4 CBs are ok
3 DM with Song as a 5th CB option and Denilson as a Cesc Wannabe option
another forward to add to VP, Ed, Bendy, Vela would be very welcome.
as for the wide players injury permitting we might be alright
July 14, 2009 at 09:15
Ive heard matuidi is miles ahead of cana too..
July 14, 2009 at 09:15
TAIG absolutely my choice although I would rather have flimflam back maybe Eboue to Milan in a straight swap?
Chamakh is so ucking shit, wheras Hazard is the shit
July 14, 2009 at 09:15
I would also ggive Ade in a straight swap for Ireland
July 14, 2009 at 09:15
I’m not sure about Hangeland. He’s a good defender in the box but would he suit Arsenal’s style of play because of how far up the field we defend, he isn’t quick & that could prove a problem. Although I won’t pretend I’ve seen him play the more I read about him the more I think Naldo would be the better choice.
I’ve wanted Arsene to sign Eden Hazard ever since I saw him playing for Belgium in an under 17 tournament. What an exciting player.
July 14, 2009 at 09:16
next time…”TAIG”….
July 14, 2009 at 09:17
1. Sell Ade
2. Buy Matuidi and Hazard.
3. Get Pogrebaynk in January for free. Him and Arshavin will do great together
July 14, 2009 at 09:17
we cant just hope that city would be shite with mark hughes. we need to do something to reduce our vulnerability.
sign some classy players Arsene. 2 would probably be enough
if Martin O Neill had sheikh backing in January it would have indeed been a nervy ending to the season. who knows what might have….?????
There is something really wrong at board level at Arsenal Im afraid it might explode soon
July 14, 2009 at 09:18
RayG _ I think the trick is not to actually type ‘1st’, cos you just can’t really know, unless you’ve paid Geoff up front.
July 14, 2009 at 09:18
what is with everyone saying sell ade and no need to buy replacement, so are we gona rely on just rvp, eduardo, bendtner, vela, simpson
if that is the case what a backward step weve taken yet again
July 14, 2009 at 09:18
Franchise, we are so strong with our attacking options this year as Arshavin is a definite starter as is RVP, which leaves Eduardo, Bendtner, Walcott and Vela.
Bring in a DM and a TRUE winger
July 14, 2009 at 09:19
Morning all!
July 14, 2009 at 09:19
PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! Let us Sell that TogoTwat. i want him gone gone gone as far as possible from our club
July 14, 2009 at 09:20
Anyone seen this. Im on his side.
http://arseneknowsbest.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/adebayor-interview-adebayor-tells-how-hurt-he-feels-because-he-is-no-longer-loved-by-arsenal-fans/
July 14, 2009 at 09:20
Pogrebaynk ?
July 14, 2009 at 09:20
HOLY JESUS!!!
THIS IS THE BEST NEWS I HAVE EVER HEARD ABOUT ARSENAL!
I am extremely exicited since we will now have Walcot/Arshavin and RVP as our main strikers with Bendy/Vela/Eduardo all clinical finishers as super subs.
AT LAST THE BROCHURE HAS WORKED FOR ARSENAL FANS.
It feels like having an orgasm after a long struggle with this bitch(Adebawhore)
July 14, 2009 at 09:20
If Arshavin is played in his correct position which is behind the main striker .. we don’t need anymore strikers.
July 14, 2009 at 09:20
why are we taking too long to sign a DM? why do we dilly dally in every window?
July 14, 2009 at 09:20
toulalalalalan will do the job..wouldnt mind matuidi either form what i’ve heard of him
July 14, 2009 at 09:20
Russian striker. Highest rated russian striker. Very tall. look him up
July 14, 2009 at 09:20
I am just waiting for the most exciting moment of next season:
Adebayor vs. Bellamy
live on Sly Sports 1
July 14, 2009 at 09:21
pogrebnyak
July 14, 2009 at 09:21
Franchise – Is bringing in another striker when we have Arshavin, RvP, Eduardo, Vela, Bendtner and Walcott really the best use of the money?? We shoudl at least give it until the January window for these guys to click together. Eduardo has shown he comes into the team with form straight away. If he’s fit, he’s awesome! A DM and RW (to let Theo learn his trade up top) has to be thew priority. If Wenger buys a striker you have to wonder why we still have Bendtner and Vela at the club??
Gunner8 – I’d take Flamini also but with the Ego’s involved (managers and players alike) I dont see it happening.
Ray – ha ha, good luck!
July 14, 2009 at 09:21
goodluck hartson
July 14, 2009 at 09:22
I love toulalan but hes too expensive and im not sure he would fit in right. He holds back. Matuidi is box to box and much cheaper and younger…
July 14, 2009 at 09:22
i dont know whether citeh will be real threat…
2 egoist attitude problem cunt…robinho an ade
1 head less chicken running bihind everyone..
and the other has been through injry last season
July 14, 2009 at 09:22
Franchise – I agree about the board being on the verge of exploding! I cant see how they can continue to operate like this on any level.
July 14, 2009 at 09:22
arshavin is a 2nd STRIKER
rvp is a 2nd STRIKER
walcott HAS NOT PLAYED THERE FOR US
vela Unproven
Bentner ONLY REAL STRIKER THAT EVERYONE WAS CANING FEW MONTHS BACK FOR SHIT FINISHING
Eduardo – ??? over his consistency as injurries have seriously played apart
oh well we do have SIMPSON, SUNU, WATT
so fuck ade who needs 1 goal in 2 games STRIKER
July 14, 2009 at 09:23
thanks Luke
manshitty are going to have too big a swuad to keep the ego’s in check! Santa Cruz and Bellamy were both signed to be starters and they will both be ridding the pine!
July 14, 2009 at 09:23
gp… i think they are going to be quite a force this year.
July 14, 2009 at 09:24
man shity will be a disaster next year. Hughes might be sacked before xmas. I wouldnt be surprised if players stoped showing up to games
July 14, 2009 at 09:24
I know TAIG, but he is the chosen one… …just he chose to reject us!
July 14, 2009 at 09:25
adebayor is so shit he’s not worth a penny less than £25m… er…?
July 14, 2009 at 09:25
Arsenal would prefer to sell Adebayor abroad but, with little or no interest from AC and Inter Milan, they are now ready to do a deal with City. Adebayor has become unpopular with Arsenal fans after publicly admitting last summer he wanted to leave when AC Milan and Barcelona were keen on signing him.
He was jeered at the start of the season after signing a new deal to stay but is regarded as a big-head in the Arsenal dressing room and is not universally popular among his teammates.
Mirror Sport revealed last week Arsenal fans have even launched their own Michael Owen-style brochure to try and sell Adebayor.
But that has not put off City from continuing their incredible spending spree, having bought Gareth Barry, Santa Cruz and Tevez.
City will also pursue Everton defender Joleon Lescott for £15m whether or not they get Chelsea captain John Terry.
July 14, 2009 at 09:25
I think if Eddy can regain his form he would thrive on Arshavin’s assists
July 14, 2009 at 09:26
Gunner8 hi…… so strong based on what evidence?????
did we sign torres yet?
as fans we are often very guilty of having short term memories
no one in our attack i.e. including when ade was there really gets me excited
even our most clinical striker eduardo is doubly rated cause he is seen as a martyr after his horrific injury
Bendtner is poor
vela is young and still adapting
VP with his injury record i dont know what to make of him
July 14, 2009 at 09:27
Mark Gooner – Eduardo is back training and has shown no sign of injury (touch wood) even though it was only a month or two ago that he had an op on his ankle to make sure its all ok. He seems to have his injury behind him and is working hard in training. He will be our Numero uno! When we had Theirry you could say the same thing about him when you say Arshavin is a 2nd striker. How many times did Thierry drift wider and deep to start the attack? Arshavin is more than capable of leading our line.
July 14, 2009 at 09:27
anyone else think adebayor may have gotten treated a little harsh? Not saying I love the guy, but I mean. Anyone?
July 14, 2009 at 09:28
luke – yes!
July 14, 2009 at 09:28
anyone watch that interview i posted? ehhh
July 14, 2009 at 09:29
http://arseneknowsbest.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/adebayor-interview-adebayor-tells-how-hurt-he-feels-because-he-is-no-longer-loved-by-arsenal-fans/
July 14, 2009 at 09:29
well he wanted money.. thats what he’s getting!
July 14, 2009 at 09:29
i personally dont think that wenger is that deluded to sell ade and not replace him
July 14, 2009 at 09:29
hes got a point…what if he has another 07/08 next year. Oh jeez im having second thoughts…dont hate me
July 14, 2009 at 09:30
adebayor : “to be honest, I am a great person “
July 14, 2009 at 09:30
Ade has to go. £25m is top money that could be used to bring in better suited players to the team. Considering he is a lazy cunt, laughs when he constantly fucks up, blames Arsenal fans for his poor form, head butts team mates and broke the Champs League record for offsides last year its a bit of a no brainer!!
July 14, 2009 at 09:31
Tevez, Santa cruz, Ade, Bellamy, Robinho, Ireland… All player who wouldn’t like to be benched.
July 14, 2009 at 09:31
good catch. nice quote
July 14, 2009 at 09:32
you have to feel a tad bit sorry for him when he mentioned the motivation factor of people singing your name etc..
i shall never condone booing one’s own player
July 14, 2009 at 09:32
yeaa thats what got me. I think we gotta back our players more
July 14, 2009 at 09:33
Ade is great on his day but those days are too few and far between!! Bringing in more technical players rather than a target man could help steer us back in the direction of the beautiful game we all used to be treated to. Lets get Arshavin and Eduardo upfront, play the passing game that Fabregas and Rosicky/Nasri can excell at and see a return to a style of football that defences are far too often scared shitless of!
July 14, 2009 at 09:33
also the place where he spoke of himself in the third person annoyed me…
July 14, 2009 at 09:33
TAIG training is training cos its just training. how many training sessions did eduardo survive after his injury but when it came to real action he never completed 2 games in a row
if we sell Ade priority is DM and Striker IMO
we have too many capable of playing wide. an 18 yr old winger from belgium is not gonna make us contenders so he can wait
July 14, 2009 at 09:33
Franchise – Come on none of our strikers get you excited ?!
July 14, 2009 at 09:34
maybe its an african thing?? i dont know.
July 14, 2009 at 09:34
Robin gets me a woody eh
July 14, 2009 at 09:34
Rohan – what got me was when he said he had a tattoo of a Tiger because they came from Africa just like him! Fuck me! Anyone with that little intelligence has no place in an Arsenal team!
July 14, 2009 at 09:34
I think Adebayor should stay, for once it’d be nice to keep everyone together and let them fight it out for their places.
July 14, 2009 at 09:34
but anyway, i dont think we can turn down 25 million for him…
July 14, 2009 at 09:35
Geoff:i respect the good work u do on your blog thats why i love it,but why attack an arsenal player like that just because of a story thats bullshit.you are so quick to dismiss any other story about our other players even after he says he cant control what the wankers say.selling ade is a big mistake.
July 14, 2009 at 09:35
we wont turn down 25 million for him. no chance. if 25 is offered,he’s gone.
July 14, 2009 at 09:37
Bellamy
Benjani
Tevez
Ade
Cruz
Robinho (SS/Winger)
Petrov (Winger)
their plan might be the 433 with 1 big CF and two nippy wide players
Cruz and Ade would fight for the big CF role
then the rest would go for the two nippy forwards spots
July 14, 2009 at 09:37
haha TAIG,
remember this, http://www.thegunninghawk.com/2009/02/03/adebayor-on-why-he-was-born-to-be-a-footballer/
July 14, 2009 at 09:37
Franchise – I know what you mean, I’m just saying I think its worthb taking the risk until January before we decide to bring in another striker. As for the wide situation my point would be why are we settling for players ‘that are capable of playing wide’ when we should have players that excell in playing wide. Our ride side options consist of a full back and a player that should be a striker by now. And people have some delluded memory of Rosicky being able to play RW. He’s a LW through and through…..IF, IF he’s ever fit.
July 14, 2009 at 09:37
Pre-Season friendlies starts in 4 days…
Expect transfers (if any more) to be sorted out this week…
I for one, rated Adebayor very high when we had signed him, i had just watched the African Nations Cup and i was very exited about the prospect of him playing for Arsenal, but what i didn’t know at that time, was the “outside of field” baggage that came with him…
I believe if he goes, then Bendtner would finally get the chance to prove himself, without Ade hanging on his shoulders (or head-kicking him)…
Nikki hasn’t showed his “right stuff” yet and i think that mostly is Ade’s fault…
Nikki scored 15 goals last season (in fareness he did miss a “few” sitters too) and that is ok, when being the 3rd choice striker…
He could easily bag at least 20+ next season and with van Persie, Eduardo (if stays fit), Vela & Walcott also there, we will be fine without buying another striker…
If we do buy another striker (a good one that is) then it would probably be the end of Nikki B’s Arsenal career…
I say put some trust in him and he will give us what we need…
July 14, 2009 at 09:38
Arsenalised… why is the story bullshit?
Why should we care about a player who disrupted a whole season?
Why should we worry about selling a striker with no commitment?
July 14, 2009 at 09:38
Rohan – Brilliant!
July 14, 2009 at 09:39
dont forget bojinov, and technically jo even though hes loaned
July 14, 2009 at 09:40
Arsenal striker Emmanuel Adebayor revealed a curious episode, by him described as a “miracle”, which made him understand that he was born for the game of football. The Togo striker, who was unable to walk in his early years said:
‘I was in the church, lying down, and a football came straight into the building and the first person to stand up was me because I wanted to get the ball. Everyone started crying: “Your son is walking because of a football and this means he has the chance to be a footballer. Most of the time when these things happen, it means the boy has football in his blood.” And it worked for me.
July 14, 2009 at 09:40
yep Keyser gone are the days i expect magic from any of our forwards
it has to be an obvious chance for them to score
July 14, 2009 at 09:41
Just saw the Ade bbc interview, well you have to agree with some of the things he said… I wouldn’t mind if he stayed, my biggest problem is selling him to our rivals, its really arrogant and a tad stupid.
July 14, 2009 at 09:41
hes got a tiger tatoo and he walked because he saw a football…damn, thats tight
July 14, 2009 at 09:42
even worse it has to be on the goal mouth for nikki B to score
July 14, 2009 at 09:42
You don’t expect magic from RvP? What about Carlos Vela? Not even a magical finish by Eduardo?
Come on Franchise… say it ain’t so?
July 14, 2009 at 09:42
I think he’s been mistreated. No one should be booing an arsenal player. In many ways, the whole milan fiasco was out of his hands and i think you could argue it threw him off hence this season’s poor form
July 14, 2009 at 09:43
Mayank… I think City have bought a load of average strikers… I’m not fussed about them.
I don’t think anyone should be allowed to do what they are doing though… £170k a week? It’s fucking mental…
July 14, 2009 at 09:43
Please delete this article immediately incase mark Hughes can actually read and gets put off buying the lanky streak of peeeeeeeeeeeeece.
i feel the team will be a more composed team without his influnce, he clearly thinks he is better than he is and it would be great business to let him go.
Thoughts to john Hartson who gave, i remember him most contributing to our 1st goal against Sampdoria in the cup winners cup semi final 2nd leg…. surely one of our most exciting games with stefan Schwarz leveling from a free kick and Seaman saving their pesky penalties…
cheers
John
July 14, 2009 at 09:43
Franchise – I know I’m pretty annoying at times, but seriously there’s nothing ?!
July 14, 2009 at 09:44
The question is: Could our defence stand up against Adebayor fi he played against us? I really think they could. I think Gallas and whoever is alongside him can shackle him and our back line has always worked the offside trap well. So I dont see why we should turn down £25m when we have 6 other strikers on our first team books and could bring in another if we really needed to.
July 14, 2009 at 09:44
Luke… he hasn’t been mistreated.
He disrupted our preseason despite the fans supporting him the year previous… he held us to ransom… bullshitted us in that press conference… head butted Nik B… the list goes on.
July 14, 2009 at 09:45
working the ofside trap against ade can’t surely be a hard task…
July 14, 2009 at 09:45
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/arsenal-fans-hold-prayer-vigil-for-adebayor-move-200907141901/
July 14, 2009 at 09:45
in the bbc interview adebayor makes a good point – if the fans want trophies, they have to get behind the players. it’s not too hard to understand.
July 14, 2009 at 09:45
“City are expected to field a 1-1-8 formation with Adebayor playing in the inside-wide-right-secondary-holding striker position until someone explains to Mark Hughes what midfield is.
“
July 14, 2009 at 09:45
What i’m saying is, we will see a “newborn” Nikki B if Ade goes…
July 14, 2009 at 09:45
SuperMac – exactly my sentiments about getting rid of a target man and replacing him with a techinally superior player like Arshavin. It would let our football flow through the WHOLE team rather than just up until the midfield!
July 14, 2009 at 09:45
im with you on this timao
July 14, 2009 at 09:46
Franchise, I know all that merde, but Eduardo is a great finisher and Arshavin has that knack of playing the killer ball…. …something Ade doesn’t read
July 14, 2009 at 09:46
For 25 million it would be a great deal.Adebayor will do okay for city.I am not too worried about selling ade to city cos i don’t think it will strengthen them that much.Infact selling toure to city might not be that good an idea
July 14, 2009 at 09:46
“Meanwhile, as Chelsea captain John Terry ponders a move to Man City, his agent said: “John’s a winner which means we’ll need enough money so he can buy a solid gold Aston Martin and then pretend he won it by playing football.”
July 14, 2009 at 09:46
I have really high hopes for Nikki B! I really think he could do well this year! Especially if Ade does fuck off!
July 14, 2009 at 09:47
True pedro, but still i’d ratherwe sold im to Milan or sumthing. Also one thing we’ll be missing without Ade is a player to actually trouble the opposition defenders, can’t say we’d have that with Ade on the field.
July 14, 2009 at 09:47
Hi Guys
Greetings from Qatar, settled in here for a couple of months and now have internet fully up and running.
And what a day to get it. Fucking fantastic news about Ade, I really hope it works out, and Ade if you have any doubts at all, look at 99% of Arsenal Blogs and you will realise that you are not really wanted so please fuck the fuck off.
As for replacements, agree that we do seem to have a lot of 2nd Strikers. Not keen on this Chamakh bloke, although he does sound like the typical Wenger signing so we may have to get used to it. I would like Etoo, he is still banging them in and alongside RVP or Arshavin could be deadly, I bet you could bank on 25+ goals from him. And with Eduardo, Vela and Nic as back up, that is great depth.
My worry is that we buy no one at all, and he gambles another season, this time on Theo up front……
Still no CM either, come on Arsenal, you turned down the investment last week, so you have to put your money where your mouth is. We need investment in the squad, you have admitted we have it by turning the cash down so fucking spend some of it, and preferably on proven class, not gambles….
July 14, 2009 at 09:47
I think adebayor should go not because I want him too, but I dont think arsenal fans would accept him back next season. He could score a hattrick a stamford bridge, wouldnt change a damn thing
July 14, 2009 at 09:47
Timao – and in return he should learn that laughing EVERY SINGLE TIME he fucks up doesn not encourage us to cheer him on! Fucking ignorant twat! Adebayor, not you!
July 14, 2009 at 09:48
Timao… if Ade was saying it, it probably needed subtitles… so I’d imagine it was pretty tough to understand.
Blaming the fans for the players deficiencies is pathetic…
The fans wouldn’t boo hard work and effort… watching players poncing about the pitch with no urgency and no desire is hardly inspiring… typical Ade… always someone else’s fault.
July 14, 2009 at 09:48
we used to have the best forward in the world keyser and have a history of snapping up some of the best in the land.
say what u want to say imo VP has lost a bit of that wow factor.
vela shines against weak teams sames as nikki b.
we all watched arsenal and u know what im talking about.
VP is not in the same category as Torres, Etoo etc and he is our best striker
July 14, 2009 at 09:49
Mayank… totally agree… but Milan weren’t about to make a mistake that expensive!
July 14, 2009 at 09:49
Pedro- He has something to work for now though! If he stays, he would have to win fans back otherwise he’d be booed out of the emirates. World cup coming up…He wants to be back where he was. Good motivation maybe? just a thought
July 14, 2009 at 09:49
so how hot is it in qatar..it is bordering on 47 degrees clesius here in AD…
July 14, 2009 at 09:50
Franchise slightly harsh on vela.Don’t think he has really got oppurtunites against top teams and he got oppurtunities at a time when we were really struggling attacking wise
July 14, 2009 at 09:50
Luke, he had the fans love to work for last season after he was booed in preseason… didn’t do a good job did he?
July 14, 2009 at 09:50
the new smileys are gay….
July 14, 2009 at 09:50
How about Marcus Berg anyone?
He really knows how to find the goal…
July 14, 2009 at 09:51
No he didnt, but it must have been pretty shocking. Going from golden boot winner to getting booed at home…you know its only going to get worse, either making adebayor slightly better than my grandma or back to 07/08 ade
July 14, 2009 at 09:51
Shaun?
July 14, 2009 at 09:51
Gunner8 how do u thread a killer ball when a team is sat as deep as they possibly can. we lack that instinctive explosive forward that can regularly score from half chances.
fact is if we sell any of our forwards without replacing them we are already weaker as a team. cos none of them is the complete package its a bit here and there.
July 14, 2009 at 09:51
Nice idea ray gooner.He would cost around 10 i guess.His goalscoring record is impressive too.Not sure whether we need one though
July 14, 2009 at 09:52
I know this will put the cat amongst the pigeons but I really do think that with some decent and consistant time up front Theo will be agreat striker. Yes he has fluffed easy chances in the past but he needs playing time up top to erradicate those mistakes. His pace on the shoulder of the last man will scare the shit out of most defences and he prsents us with another option. I’d give him more than a go up top and play him there against the lesser teams in the EPL at least.
July 14, 2009 at 09:52
he would still play for togo even if he were playing for accrington stanley FC…
July 14, 2009 at 09:52
Luke, for me… Nikki B will be twice the player Ade is… I don’t feel like we should give him another chance if we are getting £25mill.
Lets put strikers in there who are hungry for the club and really have something to prove…
July 14, 2009 at 09:53
I dont know. I dont love the guy with a passion but I think he got treated unfairly. He did look lazy and quite poor at times, but I think its the fan’s responsibility to support his arse anyway. When someones down you leave em there, you pick him up.
July 14, 2009 at 09:53
Denilson and Bendtner got a hard time from the fans at times last year, both of whom are young players who worked hard. Eboue also got a hard time and imo did not deserve it. Adebayor was far from a model employee (courting other clubs, assaulting team mates, poor effort, laughing at fuck ups that had us tearing our hair out etc) and is in no position to complain about the fans treatment of him, the other three though..
July 14, 2009 at 09:53
Franchise – Yeah exactly, and there’s not a striker that comes close to what Henry gave us right now, no-one.
Van Persie is not in the same category as Eto’o or Torres because he’s a different player, Eto’o is a good finisher doesn’t have that Wow factor, unless you’re thinking of something completely different.
Vela’s just starting out, but some of his goals have been as good as you’ll see anywhere in the World.
July 14, 2009 at 09:53
TAIG who do you think is a better player Theo or Vela?
July 14, 2009 at 09:53
Did he court other clubs or did milan court him?
July 14, 2009 at 09:53
I can see the future now…
The Nordic-Strike-Force of Nikki B & Marcus Berg…
July 14, 2009 at 09:53
nishanth slightly harsh??? not really the guy is young and getting into his game.
he starts for mexico and is not overly impressive.
good player but is not even guaranteed to start for everton/spurs
July 14, 2009 at 09:54
players do count but ultimately the result lies with the manger…how many of u rate mark huge for getting something out of these players..he couldnt handle robinho might be the fact robinho was sheikh’s love child
July 14, 2009 at 09:56
Franchise Torres is the new Henry, there are very few strikers in the world as good as him. As for eto’o ask Barca if they’d be willing to swap, you’d be surprised by the quick response. Also RvP plays deeper than the aforementioned. As for Vela lest season he was getting acclimatised to the PL this season we might see a much better player. Dudu, i won’t try to justify why he’s magic on the field. Nik i think is good against weaker defences and also good at creating confusion, good player to have. Beside Walcott can make fools out of slower defenders, ask Maldini.
July 14, 2009 at 09:56
Accrington Stanley, who are they?
July 14, 2009 at 09:56
Can see what you are suggesting franchise.But i do feel that if vela plays in a lineup that has cesc,arshavin and rosicky he can be really effective.I don’t think he has got many oppurtunites to play along with them.I am not saying he is ready yet but i think he is capable of scoring around 15 goals next season
July 14, 2009 at 09:56
marcus berg is a good shout..would prefer him to chamakh ..
July 14, 2009 at 09:57
Oh shit… I just agreed with Keyser!
Well said sir! Vela hasn’t been given much of a chance centrally and I don’t care what anyone says… finishes like his would wow anyone.
July 14, 2009 at 09:57
i reckon he courted other clubs (though i think he denies it) and wasn’t there a quote about another club being like beyonce or something? maybe i dont believe him because i plain dont like the bloke
July 14, 2009 at 09:58
You only have to compare Ade’s attitude with Bendtners! Its a no brainer! Ade started getting shit the day his 30 goal season ended! His ego grew far too much, he stomped his feet, threw a tantrum, demanded more money and stupidly got it! Then when he doesnt back himself up he blames the fans! Fuck me, the cheek of it! Bendtner on the other hand, plays poorly, gets stick from the fans but instead of having a pop back, bucks up his ideas, works hard for the team and wins evreyone over. His attitude and work rate along with his temperament was role model worthy!
Ade is in this game for the money and for himself.
Bendtner is in this game for the trophies and the feeling he gets when 60,000 fans chant his name!
July 14, 2009 at 09:58
sorry, I had to
Franchise, seriously dude!
Arshavin was threading those eye of the needle passes against 10 men last season… …I think you need your football fix now!!! at least grab a peroni and take a whiff of tht skunky smell when you open it. That should help with the pain you are suffering at the moment.
Dr. Gunner 8
July 14, 2009 at 09:58
Ade’s champs leauge record last year was pretty bitchin though wasn’t it..
July 14, 2009 at 09:58
the worst team on fifa..play in the coco cola league 2
July 14, 2009 at 09:58
Etoo doesnt have wow factor keyser?????? did u see what he did to vidic in the CL?????
u cant be serious? do u want me to start posting youtube vids?????
etoo is as explosive as c4. do ur reserach and get back to me
July 14, 2009 at 09:59
Temp is about the same as you Rohan, but the humidity is starting to kick in as well now.
big sand storm today too, so staying indoors.
July 14, 2009 at 09:59
yea he compared milan to beyonce. its ac milan a well respected club. reasonable enough eh?
July 14, 2009 at 10:00
Nishanth – thats a hard one to be honest. They are so similar but just operate from the opposite side of the field. For me, Theo edges it because he seems to added a bit of steel to his game since his shoulder injury. If he gets walloped, he jumps back up and gets on with it knowing that its not going to go away. Vela however seems to take a knock and he lets it effect the rest of his game. But like I said, almost neck and neck! You?
July 14, 2009 at 10:01
@MARK GOONER
“what is with everyone saying sell ade and no need to buy replacement, so are we gona rely on just rvp, eduardo, bendtner, vela, simpson
if that is the case what a backward step weve taken yet again”
Absolute bollocks mate. For starters, you left Arshavin and Walcott off that list.
Rvp, Eduardo, Arshavin, Bendtner, Walcott, Vela and Simpson doesn’t sound too bad to me. In fact it sounds fkin excellent!
Geoff is 100% spot on, money should go to a midfielder and another defender. Toulalan and Hangeland would do!
July 14, 2009 at 10:01
Marcus Berg, now there is a youngster I wouldnt mind us signing! Right foot, left foot, driblles, heading, finishing -he is better than huntelaar.
July 14, 2009 at 10:01
Citeh aren’t in the Europa Cup, they didn’t qualify.
July 14, 2009 at 10:01
Adebayor’s record in Arsenal:
Games Started: 114
Games as a Sub: 28
Goals: 62
Goals/Game Started: 0,5438…
Nikki B’s record in Arsenal:
Games Started: 44
Games as a Sub: 49
Goals: 24
Goals/Games Started: 0,5454…
funny…
July 14, 2009 at 10:02
Exactly, well said TAIG
Oh and I would pick Marcus Berg over Chamakh any fucking day, the guy has Ice in his veins… …give him Gallas’s no.10 and we could see all the headlines Berg-Kamp
Seriously though we need a Swede to join us soon to placate my wife
July 14, 2009 at 10:02
the weather is a bitch innit..it is my summer hols and i’m stuck around blogging with this bunch….
July 14, 2009 at 10:03
Franchise… Eto’o is a good finisher… but he doesn’t have wow factor like Arshavin or Henry…
July 14, 2009 at 10:03
Its hard to think of many strikers in the world that are better than Eto’o. I’d fucking spunk in my pants if we ever got him because I think he could single handedly give us the EPL title! he’s fucking awesome and although he doesnt have the tricks of RvP he is a lot more effective where it counts….scoring goals!! Torres for me is the best in the business right now, hands down! Still looks like a 15 year old German girl though!
July 14, 2009 at 10:03
Franchise – Why don’t you explain what that WoW factor is to you then ? Eto’o scores goals, he’s a good/great finisher with electric pace, though he seems to have lost a bit of it in recent years.
July 14, 2009 at 10:04
Rohan hehe at least it’s not raining… …I am on Hols but am still waiting for the baby passport so am stuck at home.
Fuck it I’m off to the gym… g’day all
July 14, 2009 at 10:04
this is the worst case of ‘everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife’
vela is a HOPE case (can he turn his potential into end product asap?)
bendtner is a HOPE case (can he become the prolific striker some believe he can be?)
VP is somewhat a HOPE case (can he have a healthy campaign?)
Eduardo somewhat a HOPE case (can he have a healthy campaign?)
Theo (Why didnt he just choose athlethics?)
Title winning forward line up??? not convinced
July 14, 2009 at 10:04
Agree about the ’steel’ factor.But i think vela is a better footballer.Better touch and nice finishing.Theo makes better runs though.Vela for me but by a very small margin though
July 14, 2009 at 10:04
Arse&Nose – Good is he? I havent seen him play…..
July 14, 2009 at 10:05
A crazy move selling any 20 goal a season man – let alone to a rival with more money. Who will replace his goals? Eduardo will not last 5 games.
July 14, 2009 at 10:05
Pedro if Arshavin or Etoo were available for free who do u think most top managers would pick????
July 14, 2009 at 10:05
Rohan this is my first summer with no summer holiday – i’d much rather be inyour situation i promise you that!
My advice is stay in education for as long as you can!!
July 14, 2009 at 10:06
Franchise, I’m with Gunner8… you need a peroni and a hot eastern european waitress to serve it to you…
We might be a case of ‘prettiest wife’, but you seem to have just gone through a messy divorce… there is some metaphorical heman woman hating going on there!
July 14, 2009 at 10:06
Franchise – thats a bit floored mate. Its the nature of football. You say you would bring in another striker? Who? It doesnt matter who but you would still ‘HOPE’ they do well for us!!
July 14, 2009 at 10:06
Every player in every team can be criticized like that Franchise bar 2 or 3.
July 14, 2009 at 10:06
Torres,villa and etoo are the most explosive strikers around right now.Do think pato and higuain will soon reach that level
July 14, 2009 at 10:07
Franchise – I think it depends on the team and the league.
Some would pick Etoo some would pick Andrey.
But if i’m gonna say one i’ll say Eto’o
July 14, 2009 at 10:07
Luke- i feel that if you are commited to a club and loyal to it you just say ‘i am stayin at arsenal’ or say nothin. i know it aint just ade that does it, but it is another thing he has done, which i wish our players wouldnt. i reckon he talks too much without thinkin anyway. if he stays i will cheer him on, but there were times last year when he really pissed me off. do you not think last summer he was fishing for a move or tryin to scare the club into givin him a huge pay rise? and then to turn up and start kissin the crest on the shirt..smacked of hypocracy (spelling?)to me. and no, he didn’t win me over last year, because of attitude and effort.
July 14, 2009 at 10:07
How can we assume from a few youtube clips that Chamakh aint good enough. Now i havent really seen him play but if he of the same quality as Eduardo and Sagna then i will be happy.
This is altough a golden chance for AW to fill the void left by Henry in going for a top class marksman upfront with the quality to lead the line. Theory suggests that any quality striker playing with RVP , Cesc, Theo , Arshavin , Nasri will tend to get goals. I would really like two signings of Arshavin type , age and class in the dmf and striker dept like Inler and Etoo to really have a killer squad !
July 14, 2009 at 10:07
Nikki B will replace him “Goonergerry”
July 14, 2009 at 10:08
Morning all,
I know we don’t need him but I would love it if we brought Gourcuff, absolutely love it!!
July 14, 2009 at 10:08
I think our strikers, Arshavin and Eduardo being the main men, are more than capable of eclipsing the shit year that Ade has just had! And with back up in the form of RvP, Bendtner, Vela and Walcott I think we have that area all tied up.
July 14, 2009 at 10:08
haha chipo..probably true that.
July 14, 2009 at 10:08
nishanth, higuain is pretty terrible. he’ll never ever get close to those 3. Pato maybe but not the Hig
July 14, 2009 at 10:09
RAy nice stats there. The funny thing is Bendtner is normally shittier when he starts a game.
July 14, 2009 at 10:09
Nishanth – I dont think I have ever seen so much over-hype for a player than what I see with Pato!! I really dont think this guy will be more than a ‘good’ player!
July 14, 2009 at 10:09
i remember Nikki B once saying he’ll be the Top-scorer of the Premier League…
I believe he can be, i have absolutly No doubt of that!
July 14, 2009 at 10:11
if matuidi is good enough for us why is he so cheap? is it a contract thing or what?
July 14, 2009 at 10:11
Franchise….i blame Ade for that…lol
July 14, 2009 at 10:11
Higuain is top class chipo.Hez only 21 and scored like 24 goals last season.He has improved a lot.Was pretty bad 2 seasons back but has done well recently
July 14, 2009 at 10:11
Anyway! Lets all not get too carried away……do we really think Wenger has changed his ways and will bring anyone other than a young, cheap DM that goes by the name of Matuidi and possibly another ‘could be world class’ player???????? Dont get your hopes up people, I definitely havent!
July 14, 2009 at 10:11
@freduardo. I totally understand what you are saying and agree with it on many levels. You could argue that saying something like “im staying at arsenal” though might not be best for the team. What if Arsenal did want to sell him. Obviously I wish he came out and said Im staying unless arsenal thinks It best I should go, and maybe he was fishing for a raise. If so, fuck that. He did deserve a raise but to go about it by flirting w/ milan…fuck that. Fact is, he didnt go, he didnt really do anything last summer to piss anyone off, and if fans hadnt gone sour, we might not be having this conversation today. A lot of ifs and maybe’s but hell why not
July 14, 2009 at 10:11
Fran… Arshavin everyday of the week…
July 14, 2009 at 10:11
TAIG having 5 HOPEFULS rather than 4 is a better position to be in
if we had a very good striker like Torres then the supporting cast would be quite irrelevant
‘Quite’ i said not completely
July 14, 2009 at 10:11
and btw, Chamakh is NOT good enough
July 14, 2009 at 10:12
yeah Pedro cos u think u have the prettiest wife
July 14, 2009 at 10:12
July 14, 2009 at 10:13
Franchise… always
July 14, 2009 at 10:13
Freduardo-matuidi is gonna cost 7-10 im told. not thaaat cheap eh
July 14, 2009 at 10:13
nicklas atleast has the right attitude to be succesful…i’ll give him that
July 14, 2009 at 10:14
TAIG- Yes there is a bit too much hype around him.Not worth the reported 40 million that chelsea have bid for him.But still is an excellent player.He is quick,strong and is good in the air as well.Has a great chance of becoming a great player but will have to wait and see what happens
July 14, 2009 at 10:14
I love nikki b and his pink boots. Cant wait to see him this season.
July 14, 2009 at 10:14
Mark my words!
If Ade goes, Nikki B will be our Top goalscorer!
20+ this season
25+ the next
30+ the next 2-3 seasons!
You just wait and see…
I’m good with predictions…(remember Marcus Berg against England in the U21, i said before game Berg would score at least 2 goals)
July 14, 2009 at 10:14
I think it’s amazing how that youtube compilation of Chamone has made everyone say he is crap…
Thierry in his prime had the most shots off target and the most on.
Fact.
We could have done a pretty shocking vid of him way back when!
July 14, 2009 at 10:14
Chipo – Thats too tough, you need an ‘All of the above’ option.
July 14, 2009 at 10:15
The very good striker is another HOPE franchise, can he stay fit?
July 14, 2009 at 10:15
i was talking about torres btw
July 14, 2009 at 10:15
i voted for bbk
July 14, 2009 at 10:16
Chamakh is unproven and his build up is not good enough for also. Movement isnt good around the box.
July 14, 2009 at 10:16
Chipo – you might wanna add me to that after my last post!
Franchise – Well I think our 6 strikers (7 with Simpson) are good enough at present. If things go pear shaped then by all means buy another striker. I just feel the priority has to be in balancing the team. Buying another striker only means less competition for our shit midfielders like Song, Denilson and Diaby. These guys really arent good enough and replacement has to be the first priority. Followed swiftly by a real RW so that teams cant look at us and say ‘well we’ll just defend the left side then because thats where the threat lies’……
July 14, 2009 at 10:16
BBK hands down… they guys negativity is fast approaching legendary status…
July 14, 2009 at 10:17
crikey i thought it was £3m or something being mentioned for Matuidi.. in a way i’d be glad if he’s valued a bit higher
July 14, 2009 at 10:17
hazard!
July 14, 2009 at 10:17
sorry but how can selling a player to a potential top 4 finish rival help us i dont understand?.I wonder sometimes if these comments are made by real arsenal fans? i know that the Arsenal is a broad church however these comments are just rank out of order and do nothing to enhance the club.A price of £20mill is also so well wide of the mark this guy will score 20-25 goals a season when he gets the support which a lot of the time he did not.As for big pat going to the arrys asbeens so what!yes he was and is probably the greatest player to ever wear the red n white but why get ticked off if he wants a move,what will he bring with him not a great deal how well did he do in italy? nowt.Is he a stronger player then when we sold him ? answer no so i think its time to move on.
GET REAL GET BEHIND THE TEAM
July 14, 2009 at 10:17
yea know what you mean. Heard Marseille was trying to offload Cana to buy Matuidi…
July 14, 2009 at 10:18
Yup according to BBK we can’t win unless we buy Kaka, CR9, Villa, etc.
July 14, 2009 at 10:18
Marcus Berg scores 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJaPylqwgWk
Marcus Berg vs England
July 14, 2009 at 10:19
If cana is available for 6 million that is reported why isn’t wenger interested?Maybe he is not good enough after all
July 14, 2009 at 10:19
THESE ADEBAYOR NEWS ARE SO EXCITING…
I HAVE ALREADY HAD THREE ORGASMS …
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/arsenal-fans-hold-prayer-vigil-for-adebayor-move-200907141901/
July 14, 2009 at 10:19
Another shit campaign might be ahead of us. it might actually be worse
strengthening ur potential rivals to sign matuidi isnt exactly good business. especially if we dont replace like for like.
the truth is i dont think wenger is that deluded to sell ade and not replace him. he wouldnt risk it at all
So the campaign might not be as shit afterall cos u guys that dont want ade replaced are not Arsene
July 14, 2009 at 10:19
i think we should get Klass Huntelaar if we are lucky enough to sell Ade. surly 15 mill would be enough to get him..
tho im sure wenger would look to take a player from Man city if they really want Ade, somone like Richards or Ireland
Well i hope so any ways
July 14, 2009 at 10:21
Real Madrid have accepted a 20m bid for Huntelaar from stutgaart, think he is off there as no one else seems to be interested in him for that price.
July 14, 2009 at 10:21
as things stand im tipping Liverpool for the title
July 14, 2009 at 10:21
Ooogooner, yes, they are all Arsenal fans.
£25million is an amazing price for Adebayor… if you are an Arsenal fan, and you’ve watched him before… you’d know that.
He didn’t play shit becuase of the fans… he used us as an excuse to maintain what little value he had round Europe.
July 14, 2009 at 10:21
OOOGOON – “A price of £20mill is also so well wide of the mark this guy will score 20-25 goals a season when he gets the support which a lot of the time he did not”
Yeh, but factor into that his character and the amount he unsettles the team and the fans.
I can 10000% guarantee that the stadium and the dressing room will be far more positive places without the offside machine.
July 14, 2009 at 10:22
Huntelaar wouldnt fit in to arsenal. Great finisher though
July 14, 2009 at 10:22
Franchise
to be honest i dont think he will let Ade go untill he has Signd somone to replace him with first.
July 14, 2009 at 10:23
luke
thats what we need if you havent noticed
July 14, 2009 at 10:23
In fairness, Ade didnt blame the fans. He said something like, if the fans want trophies they should support their team to help em get there
July 14, 2009 at 10:24
Hunterlaars really slow though, he puts them away but his buildup not so good.
July 14, 2009 at 10:24
the reason is cos Liverpool are relying on less ‘IFS’ than the others in the top 4
July 14, 2009 at 10:25
I really dont like this Ade bashing !
I think as Arsenal fans we are better than that. We should not burn a bridge like we are doing cause if he stays (unlikely but IF) then we will only make the situation much worse.
My feelings on this one is, let him leave without any bad feelings. Even wish him well…..he scored some great goals for us !!!
I also feel that this might be one of the only solutions to bring in cash to fund new purchases. Lets face it, we had to raise funds somehow and I’m pleased it not coming from the sale of RVP, Cesc, wallcott, bentner etc.
Think we had to sell a 1st teamer to get the funds
July 14, 2009 at 10:26
‘The offside machine’
Brilliant!
July 14, 2009 at 10:26
Guys I really dont think that Adebayor is strengthening Man City in terms of becoming a threat to us! Mark Hughes is utter shite and would honestly be surprised if he could steer those ego’s into the Europa Cup!! I do, however, think the threat of Villa and Everton should be taken seriously! I am more than happy to sell Ade….£25m is daylight robbery! But Wenger must 100% invest that money back into the team! Will he?? I would say its very, very unlikely!!! This is why the board love him! He makes them money and I wouldnt be surprised that Wenger has a nice little bonus waiting for him at the end of it. AND, if we do sell him, lets say we want £20m and Richards instead of £25m! Its a no brainer! Richards hates Hughes and showed at the Under 21 champs that he is a great player when undere the right guidance! If Stuart Pearce can get him to produce that kind of form then imagine what Wenger could do with him! Plus we could sell Eboue as Richards can cover Sagna at RB and generate even more cash!!!!
July 14, 2009 at 10:27
Franchise – This is some real ‘glass is half empty’ stuff even for you! But I do agree somewhat!
July 14, 2009 at 10:27
HOW CAN ANYONE DENY THAT ADE IS A CUNT?!
WHY WOULD YOU WANT HIM IN YOUR TEAM?!
July 14, 2009 at 10:28
I would just like to thank everyone that voted for me i could not have done it without the help and support of le grove……..
July 14, 2009 at 10:28
You guys stop being hecklers Ade has been a big asset to arsenal through assists and goals,he uses his big body well and keeps possesion well good ball control skills.You guys stop being racists why dont you point fingers at Fabregas he too wanted to leave, what of Van persie unnessesary red cards you guys stop heckling i hope Wenger keeps him.
July 14, 2009 at 10:28
Everyone speaks of replacements if Ade leaves . However , I don’t think that Chamakh is good enough for Arsenal if we want the EPL (the UCL is out of our range next season , IMHO) .People speak of RvP , Eduardo , Arshavin , Bendtner , Vela , Walcott . IMO , only RvP and Arshavin are world class , and maybe Eduardo . Walcott showed us what he can do as a striker in the U21 Champ . He rarely played in that position and as a result he isn’t a good finisher .
July 14, 2009 at 10:29
here we go again….
July 14, 2009 at 10:29
BBK, I think last season was a one off… I don’t believe you can do it again since signing your new Le Grove deal…
July 14, 2009 at 10:29
Cheers pedro, came to me in a flash of inspiration.
I’ve lost count of the amount of times i got out of my (lovely red padded) seat at Emirates to slag off Ade when he was offside last season.
July 14, 2009 at 10:31
TAIG the better the players the easier the manager’s job is. Mark Hughes might surprise us and sustain a very healthy challenge to break into the top 4. he did well at blackburn and if we want to judge him with his first season at MAn City then Wenger should be sacked for his last 4 at least. Remember Good players make a mangers life easy. When Ronaldo scored a scorching frre kick against us in the CL @ Emirates it wasnt Sir Alex that engineered the move with his tactics it was the players individual brillance. When Tevez scored a back heel against wigan to get Mancs closer to the title last year it wasnt Fergie that asked him to do that. Players also saves managers blushes it works both ways.
July 14, 2009 at 10:32
tonyadamsisgod
i agree about Richards, he could play in RB, CB and DM if needs be so its a win win i think.
but to be honest i dont think we could get Richards and 20 mil. i would say somthing like 12 to 15 mil
July 14, 2009 at 10:32
@joey – “stop being racists”
hhahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahha
how old/stupid are you?!
July 14, 2009 at 10:33
Liverpool are a straight line, Reina, Carrhager, Masch, Xabi, Gerrard, Torres. Add to that the fact that they can’t play with the ball on the ground and long ball tactics fail against good defences. Also Torres made 24 appearances. Surely we can expect those from the magical RvP and Dudu.
July 14, 2009 at 10:33
the competition for places that Ade didnt exactly have at the Grove he might finally have it at Eastlands U never know.
July 14, 2009 at 10:33
BBK i think that was the first positive comment ive ever read!!
July 14, 2009 at 10:33
July 14, 2009 at 10:33
Chipo – dont need to call him that!
He’s done a good job for us and I like the fact that most Arsenal fans are not fickle!
He may of made mistakes but so what? We’re not Newcastle….if he leaves then so be it.
And no,, I’m not saying I dont want him to leave (bit risky). But, if we do not use the funds to buy new players then it is not a good move…….
July 14, 2009 at 10:34
lollll pedro,is it possible for a raise or am i pushing my luck
July 14, 2009 at 10:35
Mayank Liverpool outplayed us at Anfield so u chatting bollox
we were lucky to have drawn that game
July 14, 2009 at 10:35
1. Sell Adebayor
2. Buy Hazard
3. Buy Matuidi
4. Get best Russian striker Pogrebaynk as Ade replacement for FREE in january.
5. Win shit
July 14, 2009 at 10:36
i think Liverpool was lucky to draw.
we just killed off our chances.. well Arshavin did anyways. plus our back 4 was shit that night
July 14, 2009 at 10:36
TAIG… good manager motivate players and inspire them…
No one made Schusters job easy did they? Madrid had some great players…
I don’t rate the players City have bought…
Barry… overrated, couldn’t get Villa up
Terry… On his way out… back problems… slowing up
Adebayor… Do me a favour.
Tevez… Works like a dog, not much else
Robinho… when he fancies it
Santa Cruz… Where will he get a game? Why didn’t fergie buy him?
Look at all the other problems they have! How are they going to be rectified with the signings they’ve made?
I think too many people are looking at the money… not the actual players.
July 14, 2009 at 10:37
luke
i like Number 5
July 14, 2009 at 10:37
BBK… I’ve only just given you a raise!
July 14, 2009 at 10:39
Well said Mark Gooner.
July 14, 2009 at 10:39
Sell ade.. its not going to make a difference. The club will not win any medals even if ade is in the side.
July 14, 2009 at 10:39
We still ended up lot losing franchise.We had silvestre in that lineup.And wenger also played both song and denilson in the midfield.Lot of factors for them dominating us in that match.Liverpool are a good team but too dependent on gerrard and torres.If they stay fit for some 80% of their matches they have a great chance
July 14, 2009 at 10:39
Arsenal is still a great team but it does not have what it takes to win the title in EPL anymore. Don’t get me wrong. The team that Wenger assembled is still strong but it has lost some of the old magic. Arsenal is a good team but not ‘invincible’ anymore. All the players want to leave and Wenger is a proud man and will not stop them if they want to.
July 14, 2009 at 10:39
Sell him to Man City and he’ll play alongside Tevez with a huge point to prove. No thanks! Outside England, or keep him and hope Eduardo and Arshavin inspire him.
July 14, 2009 at 10:39
spot on pedro..my sentiments exactly
July 14, 2009 at 10:39
Pedro..
i think Man city are trying to play 11 strikers in their team for next season haha..
surly they cant keep on buying attacking players..
few injuries in the middle or the back for them and they will all fall apart
July 14, 2009 at 10:39
Man Shitty are going to revolutionize soccer with the newly inventer 1-1-8 formation. I cant wait to say I told you so. HA!
July 14, 2009 at 10:39
And Man U were luck to have not lost at OT against us… What’s you’re point? Our MF is potentially the best in the league, i say potentially ’cause with our injuries we may end up with a MF of Walcott-Den-song-Diaby. We have a more than satisfactory strike force. If the defence is sorted i say its us and ‘pool for the title.
July 14, 2009 at 10:40
There is one clear reason to sell Adebayor that eclipses all of the rest!!!!
YOU DONT TURN DOWN £25M FOR A GUY THAT HEAD BUTTS HIS TEAM MATES!!!!
July 14, 2009 at 10:40
Pedro Wenger at his most deludest wont discount City even if Ricky Hatton were their manager and Oasis as assistants
they are putting together a big squad and Mark Hughes might be able to get the best out of them
July 14, 2009 at 10:41
haha, Raif and Luke… spot on… I can’t believe I didn’t realise!
Franchise… we’re going to win the league next year…
July 14, 2009 at 10:41
Mark Hughes will get sacked soon. youll see,.
July 14, 2009 at 10:42
Selling player for obnoxious fees doesn’t guarantee replacements as Man U found out to their loss. So we should only sell Ade if we have a player lined up to be bought using that money.
July 14, 2009 at 10:42
Pedro – Totally agree. People forget to look at the bigger picture and ask the question of how is this all going to fit together? Hughes is literally like a kid playing champ manager after he’s typed in a cheat code that gives him an infinite budget!
July 14, 2009 at 10:42
Luke.
im going to try that 1 – 1 – 8 formation on my pro evo soccer game.. ill get back to you with the results
July 14, 2009 at 10:43
Mayank ive seen better wenger teams not win the league so if ‘our so called best midfield’ in the league dont win it i wont be surprised
July 14, 2009 at 10:43
I tip ancelotti to struggle at chelsea
July 14, 2009 at 10:43
Hughes is gone before Xmas.
July 14, 2009 at 10:43
i think mourinho will be on his way there bext season if not earlier
July 14, 2009 at 10:44
Hey Raif-one step ahead of you mate. I tried and its working like a charm! I think were in trouble next year! HAHAHAHAH
July 14, 2009 at 10:44
Pedro start ur optimism benchmark with the carling cup
the first question u wanna ask is can arsenal get at least 25 points from their first 30 games?
July 14, 2009 at 10:45
Ideket i hear you……. PREACH
July 14, 2009 at 10:46
HAHAHAHAHAHA… ive even been updating all the teams and the new transfers. so man city 1-1-8 here i come HAHAHA
July 14, 2009 at 10:47
Considering we have a tough start i wouldn’t be too upset with 22-25 points
July 14, 2009 at 10:47
Franchise,
Yup and i won’t be surprised if Man U don’t win it, or ‘pool or Chelsea either. The PL is there for the taking as there is no one strongest team. So yes i do fancy us to have a go at it even without Ronaldo, Kaka, Torres in our team. Its guys like you who are on Perez’s advisory board.LOL
July 14, 2009 at 10:48
hahahahahahah
July 14, 2009 at 10:49
United got 60 out 60 last year against the teams in bottom half last season.I don’t think that has ever been achieved
July 14, 2009 at 10:49
Luke – from the comments you have made I can conclude that YOU live in the real world, unfortunately the bloke you are defending doesn’t.
The guy is upposed to be a PROFESSIONAL footballer and I think that all fans ask for in return for their support is that professionalism – pick up your huge wages, but buckle down, work hard, keep your mouth shut and don’t take the fans for granted and then whinge about it after you have.
For me Ade is summed up, not my his scoring record dropping off or the number of times he is offisde etc – but that from 1 season he went from being Rio Ferdinands most difficult opponent (Rio’s quote not my assumption), to being completely in Rio Ferdinands pocket. Now I don’t know about you but if I played for Arsenal, was 6′4″ and blessed with pace and power, and playing in a CL semi final against Ferdinand – I know the cnut would come off the pitch feeling like he had been 12 rounds with Tyson (in his hey day) and not looking like he had barely had to break sweat !! Just my opinion but I am sticking to it!!
July 14, 2009 at 10:49
Wait that didn’t happen.They didn’t win against newcastle
July 14, 2009 at 10:50
I cant get upbeat about the 09/10 season, I just cant! Wenger WILL NOT invest a) in the right areas and b) invest in players of any worth.
The money we get from Adebayor’s sale will dissapear. I just hope that when the usual do we/dnt we have money saga role’s around again people will remeber that we generated millions and it didnt get spent! I swear the next time Wenger say’s he doesnt have millions I will hunt him down and shoot him! We have the potential to generate millions more if needed but project youth wont allow it.
Again, this summer will see the following happen:
Adebayor – out for £25m
Matuidi – in for a few million
Chamakh – possibly in for millions more than he is worth.
This will be it. Wenger will continue to play Diaby, Denilson and Song, he will again play Theo on the right, our defence will continue to be stretched and we will end up in 5th spot at best.
July 14, 2009 at 10:50
Ade out Diego Forlan in
Good work Arsene
July 14, 2009 at 10:50
————Almunia————–
Sagna, Vermaelen, Gallas, Clichy
————-Song—————-
———Arshavin, Cesc———-
van Persie—————-Rosicky
————Nikki B————–
2nd Choice:
———–Fabianski————-
Eboué, Touré, Djourou, Gibbs
————Ramsey—————
———-Nasri, Diaby———–
Walcott———————-Vela
————Eduardo————–
3rd Choice:
————-Mannone————-
Hoyte, Nordtveit, Bartley, Traoré
————-Mérida————–
—Emmanuel-Thomas, Wilshere—–
Barazite———————Watt
————-Simpson————-
I left out Adebayor, Silvestre, Senderos & Denilson cause those are the players i want out…
I f we do sign a DM then Song gets 2nd choice & Ramsey gets 3rd choice & Mérida goes out…
July 14, 2009 at 10:51
Oh and Liverpool win the EPL this year! Fact!
July 14, 2009 at 10:51
in 143 games ADE has scored 62 goals and has 21 assists
so thats 83 goals he has contributed from 143 games
that is a good record,
eduardo 35 games 15 goals
bentdner bout the same ratio as eduardo
yet people want us to sell and not replace
July 14, 2009 at 10:51
Ryan-Very fair mate. I dont disagree. I dont mean to sound like an Ade lover because its hard to be one but being a lone striker is no easy feat. We played a 4-5-1 against Man utd and I dont think Ade can do that
July 14, 2009 at 10:52
MElo and Forlan are the transfers we are working on
an Insider told me shhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
July 14, 2009 at 10:52
I agree with Luke and Rohan…..think Hughes will be sacked soon.
Mourine will come in sell some strikers for sweet FA as some will be surplus to requirements. Then he’ll balance the squad………hate to say it and I dont think he is better than Wenger but, with unlimited funds, mourine will win the EPL within 2 years of arriving.
July 14, 2009 at 10:52
Tony Adams! he wont buy Chamakh! He’ll buy Hazard! HAZARD RULES!
July 14, 2009 at 10:53
Melo is gone. fuck him
July 14, 2009 at 10:54
Hopefuly mourinho will stay at inter until man shitty’s owner’s get bored and tired of waiting and decide to pull out…
July 14, 2009 at 10:54
Raygooner,
Arshavin isnt a CM, RVP isnt a winger/striker, Rosicky isnt a winger/striker.
Ramsey isnt a DM, Vela isnt a winger/strike.
Merida isnt a DM, bnot even close to being one.
Apart from that good team line-ups.
July 14, 2009 at 10:55
RYan L ..spot on. AdeNuff’s complete lack of effort that night was as poor a display as I’ve seen from an Arsenal player.
In th ebuild up he;d spent hours telliong us it was going to be rock vs rock when he met Vid and Rio. Laughable really….
July 14, 2009 at 10:55
Wardo – I would put Mourinho higher then Wenger in being able to achieve success simply because of their different approaches to football. If City had Wenger for a year and then Mourinho for a year they would win the EPL when Mourinho is there because he would buy players and Wenger wouldn’t. The football wouldnt be great but they would still win.
July 14, 2009 at 10:55
Cana said he will go to Everton if they make a bid….
WTF are our board doing. What fcuking press do they read…….pick up the sun/mirrow/daily crap etc you c nuts !! Read anything football related and fcuking spend OUR money. Its not yours…..we want success and players……
July 14, 2009 at 10:55
Luke mate wasn’t insinuating that you were an Ade lover, I think the points you have raised are fair, the trouble is most of them would actually never be recognised by Adebayor.
You are possibly right about Ade’s ability to play as the lead in a 4-5-1, but a certain lack of ability can be concealed by effort and I just didn’t see any in the biggest 180 minutes of our season and for me that was pretty unforgivable.
July 14, 2009 at 10:56
Luke – Not a chance my friend, not a chance!
July 14, 2009 at 10:59
TAIG – That is exactly my point.
Wenger is a better coach. He is a more realistic manager who can acheive with a low budget. Mourine would be way out of his depth here.
Therefore, Wenger is a better coach.
But, Mourine is proven to be successful when he has unlimited funds.
If wenger had unlimited funds, imagine the talent he would attract!!! Can you Imagine if Wenger had the likes of Ronaldo, Kaka, Cesc, Henry, Yaya, Iniesta etc in the same team….he’d win everything and the football would be mouthwatering!
Conclusion……wenger is better than mourine on both fronts
July 14, 2009 at 10:59
man City will sack hughes if they dont get top 4 you’ll see. and then go for one of the bigger managers
July 14, 2009 at 10:59
Arshavin plays that role in the Russian national team, just behind the strikers…
van Persie plays winger/striker in Holland national team…
Rosicky has played a winger or behind the strikers all his career…
Ramsey i agree, but i think he would be a great DM …
Vela played winger in Osasuna…
Merida is too poor going forward so i just put him in there…
July 14, 2009 at 10:59
For me;
Given
Richards
New CB
Kompany
Bridge
Ireland
De Jong
Barry
Tevez
Adebayor
Robinho
is a very strong team, and it will just be a matter of time before they are top 4.
Whether that is at our expanse is down to Wenger, and whether he will change his ridiculous youth obsession.
July 14, 2009 at 10:59
If we seel Ade for £25 millions, that cash alone could see us field a time like this:
Almunia
Sagna – Vermaelen – Gallas – Clichy
Hazard – Fabregas – Cana – Rosicky
Eduardo – Arshavin
with a bench of:
Walcott
RvP
Bendtner
Vela
Song
Toure
Nasri
Wilshere
Ramsey
Eboue
Diaby
Denilson
The list goes on. Tell me that those 2 signings of Hazard and Cana wouldnt put us in one hell of a position to compete for the EPL??????
July 14, 2009 at 11:00
Wenger hasnt achieved jack on a low budget unless we count making final appearances and being in the top 4
July 14, 2009 at 11:00
Ryan- i know you werent insinuating anything. Im only saying that I think a lot of the Ade hate is based on speculation except ofcourse the lack of effort which was when you sum it up, utterly pathetic. It would have been nice to not see a 4-5-1 though, I think Ade needs more help up front.
Tony- not a chance w/ what?
July 14, 2009 at 11:02
Wardo – Wenger is undoubtedly a better coach, no question! But Wenger WOULD NOT sign those players you listed – it goes against every philoshy and moral that he abides by! He doesnt believe in the money that players demand or that clubs ask for. He could have £50 million to spend here if he wants, but he will never do that!
July 14, 2009 at 11:02
taig, why would you play an unknown like hazard in our 1st team instead of player of the season RvP or Nasri?
July 14, 2009 at 11:03
That was some bad spelling from me back there!
July 14, 2009 at 11:03
Tony- Ive heard from quite a good number of sources Cana isnt rated as high as matuidi. I think Maerseille are getting rid of him to try to buy matuidi in fact. Hazard would be a miracle though. Hazard and arshavin on the same pitch…im gettin a woody
July 14, 2009 at 11:03
I also didn’t like adebayor’s attitude for last season and really wouldn’t mind if he is sold. BUT my FEAR is that there will be no replacement for him and the trend will continue every year.
The sad thing is he can be very good if he puts his head in the game. His attitude for last year reminds me of the last 2 seasons of TH14 with us. But at least TH14 gave us a lot before then so I can’t complain too much.
Let us give him a second chance if he stays and give support to whoever is wearing the great Arsenal shirt because booing our own players will not help the Team no matter how frustrated and unhappy we might be. If we are booing our players whilst wearing the Arsenal shirt then what will we do to them if they come to Emirates wearing spuds shirt.
July 14, 2009 at 11:03
Franchise,
You have hit the nail on the head. The problem I see is that there are not many readily available options xcept for the tall Russian striker – Porgeybak. I have heard that Wenger likes the Morrocan striker, Chamkah For all his strenght on the ball and good heading ability, his bluntness when he needs to score means that Chamkah could be a big disaster and will take us back to training mode. Bentner is still not the finished article. VP and Eddy are for me too injury prone atm. Theo is a one trick guy who should be playing as an impact sub. Vela is yet to find his feet.
I must say that this year the title challenge may now include City, Villa and Everton for the Hull. With ManU and Liverpool weakened, Chelsea may show up this time. For our dear club, we can make it if we get a good Ade replacement and a hard working DM
July 14, 2009 at 11:03
Fran – Hasn’t Arsene always been on a low budget…relative to the competition..??
July 14, 2009 at 11:04
the reason we could challenge Manchester UNited in the late 90’s and early 200s was cos we had half the french team in our starting 11 and we had arguably one of the best players in the prem in dennis bergkamp. we also had a good defence. Wenger didnt always do it cheap. since he took it into overdrive we have won zilch
July 14, 2009 at 11:04
Franchise,
You have hit the nail on the head. The problem I see is that there are not many readily available options xcept for the tall Russian striker – Porgeybak. I have heard that Wenger likes the Morrocan striker, Chamkah For all his strenght on the ball and good heading ability, his bluntness when he needs to score means that Chamkah could be a big disaster and will take us back to training mode. Bentner is still not the finished article. VP and Eddy are for me too injury prone atm. Theo is a one trick guy who should be playing as an impact sub. Vela is yet to find his feet.
I must say that this year the title challenge may now include City, Villa and Everton for the long haul. With ManU and Liverpool weakened, Chelsea may show up this time. For our dear club, we can make it if we get a good Ade replacement and a hard working DM, not necessarily a known name.
July 14, 2009 at 11:04
Hazard should be nowhere near our first choice right winger, hes a kid. One of our biggest problems is that we’re too young and inexperienced, bringing an 18 yo in wont help this.
People are getting way too excited by this unproven, non goalscoring winger.
Affellay would be a different kettle of fish, he should replace Ade.
………Almunia
.Sagna..Gallas…Vermaelen..Clichy
…..Cesc….Cana…..Rosicky
.Affelay……RVP….Arshavin
July 14, 2009 at 11:04
Were getting the russian fo free in january!
July 14, 2009 at 11:04
MATUIDI>CANA!!!!!!
July 14, 2009 at 11:05
How about this then…
Almunia in goal
Sagna, Vermaelen, Gallas & Clichy our back 4
Song or if we buy a better option as DM
Cesc in the middle, with Arshavin playing a bit further up the field behind the strikers (a free role if you please)
van Persie as our right-hand striker/winger
Eduardo as our left-hand striker/winger
And Nikki B as our central striker.
July 14, 2009 at 11:05
Duke – because he is a RW by all acounts, something that people desperately over look. Our whole team is left side heavy. We are so precdictable with everything flowing through the left of our team. How much damage does Walcott inflict from the right? Not that much. We need a real RW. Someone that can cross, cut in, dribble, has pace etc.
I wouldnt play RvP or Nasri because I am someone that would find players to fit my formation, not find a formation to fit my players!
July 14, 2009 at 11:06
TAIG RvP just signed a new deal and was voted the player of the season. He won’t be benched.
July 14, 2009 at 11:06
eduardo cannot be considered as injury prone.Maybe if this season he struggles to play regularly.Anyone who comes back from a major injury takes time
July 14, 2009 at 11:06
4-1-2-3
Lacks in the midfield bub
July 14, 2009 at 11:06
CANA > Matuidi
July 14, 2009 at 11:07
the core of our team in wenger’s first few years wasnt exactly cheap. fergie’s was quite cheap also cos he had like 6 players from the academy
henry, wiltord and pires cost us almost £40m
July 14, 2009 at 11:07
for a kid, Hazard plays like a ronaldo
July 14, 2009 at 11:07
Good point TAIG. I did think that when writing…..I’m not sure if Wenger would ever spend that much on a player……
Fran – Wenger has won EPL x3 times. FA cup 5/6 times. That is success. He never spent more than his rivals……..so did it on a lower budget.
July 14, 2009 at 11:08
Marseille are trying to offload Cana to buy matuidi bub
July 14, 2009 at 11:08
It doesnt have to be Hazard. But it does have to be a RW! All our success came with 4-4-2! So lets get back to that! We have shown that 4-5-1 is a fucking disaster for us and 4-3-3 hasn’t even been tried which leads mew to think it never will be.
July 14, 2009 at 11:09
Franchise – more proof that spending on quality is worth while just like the Arshavin siging has done the same thing…….
July 14, 2009 at 11:10
I like the 4-2-3-1
Back 5 the same
Cesc-Matuidi
Hazard/Theo-Nasri-Arshavin
RVP/Eddie
July 14, 2009 at 11:10
sorry i meant £30m
Pires £6m
Henry £12m
Wiltord £13m
total £31m
July 14, 2009 at 11:10
Or we could play the “short” version that has no chance in hell of winning anything in the air…
Almunia
Sagna, Vermaelen, Gallas, Clichy
Walcott, Song, Cesc, Rosicky
van Persie, Arshavin
July 14, 2009 at 11:11
Mayank – I’m sure he wont be. All I can do is say what I think should happen. I want to sign all these players but I know it wont happen! I do think that RvP needs to offer a lot more to the team though because right now, players like Arshavin are making him look utter shite!
July 14, 2009 at 11:11
But Fran…he bought all those players cheap…(bar Wiltord?), and inherited the others
If he were to buy some of them now he’d be slaughtered for them not being big enough names.
July 14, 2009 at 11:11
Ray- so what. When was the last time we crossed? We use quick passing and build up and movement.
July 14, 2009 at 11:11
Luke,
They arent. They just signed M’Bia, who is more highly rated, yet pretty average himself.
July 14, 2009 at 11:12
I think there must be some truth to this chamakh rumour.His finishing doesn’t look that great.Hope at least he has got a great work ethic.Really don’t think we need him though
July 14, 2009 at 11:12
wenger is normally shrewd in his transfer dealings but if u think he achieved success in his fisrt years at arsenal by not spending then u wrong
relative to the market then Arsene spent quite a bit
as for now he doesnt and since then we have been further from 1st than we are to 5th
July 14, 2009 at 11:12
Franchise, now you want player from the academy? Wenger had to build a title winning side and did it in a much cheaper way than could be imagined. To dislodge Man U in the 90s was not an easy task by any means. Can you imagine Valencia dislodging Barca? Also like you said Henry, Pires and Wiltord(our most expensive signing until Arsh) cost under 40m, whereas Anderson, Nani, Berba cost over 70m. SO yes i think he has done it on the cheap.
July 14, 2009 at 11:13
well shit. my buds are dumb. Matuidi is extremely highly rated. Cant say I Know much abotu Cana except he is a youtube sensation!
July 14, 2009 at 11:14
Chamakh will literally be Adebayor all over again!!
What has triggered such a drastiuc change in Wenger’s approach to football? Why is he suddenly concentrating on big lumbering target men instead of technically gifted and intelligent players? Has he forgotten the wengerball that this club literally re-invented themselves with????
July 14, 2009 at 11:15
he wont buy chamakh hes waiting for the russian
July 14, 2009 at 11:15
SS Pires would have been cheaper but there was competition from Madrid and Juve i believe
Henry for a flop in Italy was quite pricy
Dwight Yorke and Andy Cole cost Sir Alex about £10m – £11m i believe
Cole was £6m plus Gillepsie going the other way and Yorke was about £4m
July 14, 2009 at 11:15
TAIG – RvP hit some pretty bad form just about when Arsh hit his best, so it made him look bad. Also its his first full season, to bench him after this one would be very disloyal on our part.
July 14, 2009 at 11:16
Fran “but if u think he achieved success in his first years at arsenal by not spending then u wrong”
Gotta diasgaree with that. 98 title. Who had he bought and at what cost..
Remi Garde, PV4, Petit and Anelka…from memory. Whats that total ?? Under £10m?
July 14, 2009 at 11:16
Cole cost 7 million, Yorke, 13 million.
July 14, 2009 at 11:17
Franchise Henry made the ‘98 french team at 18, i think that puts a good price on anyone’s head.
July 14, 2009 at 11:17
Yorke £4m…!!! More like 3 times that amount !!!
July 14, 2009 at 11:18
How much did overmars cost?
July 14, 2009 at 11:18
Mayank – You cant be condoning a dip in form because of the arrival of a superior talent? And the fact that its first full season is probably a good indicator of how many games we can expect to get out of him this year. I hope he’s absolutely brilliant but in the last 6 months he’s done nothing other than snatch his shots and balst free kicks into row z! Someone needs to tell him to calm down and get his finesse back rather than just trying to hit the ball as hard as he can every single time!
July 14, 2009 at 11:20
Nishanth – £5.5m in ‘97, kinda fair, not cheap, not too expensive though.
July 14, 2009 at 11:20
Franchise I can’t believe how much you big up ManU, they’re a good team with a good manager, i get it. But you make them sound like their god’s own team. Like i said Berba, Nani, Anderson for 70m+, players like them could’ve been bought by Wenger for under 20m net.
July 14, 2009 at 11:20
Fran not that it matters that much as I am not relly partaking in that element of the debate but if my mmeory serves me correctly I think Keyser is right in that Yorke cost something like £12.8M
July 14, 2009 at 11:20
RVP was at his best when he had very little support.He showed great character at that point
July 14, 2009 at 11:20
different times Mayank and u aint getting my point
Wenger used to spend and won things. the competition then was MAncs who were not exactly an expensive team themselves
He doesnt now and loses finals and comes 4th
the money we spent on the trio of Henry, Wiltord and Pires in today’s crazy market would be more closer to £80m
take it that Henry = Benzema (£30m)
Wiltord = Lisandro Lopez (£21m)
Pires = Diego (£20m)
July 14, 2009 at 11:20
Can’t beleive that I forgot Arsene ’splashed out’ on Christopher Wreh as well. That must have added £35.50 to the transfer bill
July 14, 2009 at 11:21
Robin’s gonna shut up all his doubters. He has such determination. He wont sleep until he gets a trophy. He could have easily had 30 goals last season. I cant tell you how many times the ball hit the post and went the wrong way.
July 14, 2009 at 11:21
Overmars cost 4.5 I think.
July 14, 2009 at 11:21
Hazard isn’t good enough to play for our first team yet. I heard Real have a pre-contract agreement with him anyway.
July 14, 2009 at 11:22
Lets not kid ourselves people. yes RvP played very well for the first half of the season. But he also had a shocker for the 2nd part of the season. I think his goal against Everton has rescued his reputation amongst Arsenal fans a little bit this season.
July 14, 2009 at 11:22
No, no TAIG i’m just saying it was unlucky that it was timed that way. Coz it made RVP look shit in comparison. I think if both had been playing a full season the comparison would be justified. Everyone has a dip in form at some point in the season.
July 14, 2009 at 11:23
Arse and Nose- Really! Thats bad! He wanted arsenal and he will be so good!! We need a RW!!! fuck
July 14, 2009 at 11:23
Arse&Nose – We’d never get him anyway because he is already starting to become the diamond which means Wenger couldnt take any credit for it!
July 14, 2009 at 11:24
Fran – its not the same as manure mate.
Pires – £6mil from Overmars funds which were around £20mil. £14mil up
Henry £10.5mil (not £12mm) from the sale of Anelka £21.5mil. £11mil up
Wiltord – £13mil granted but we had funds available.
Manure spent £30mil Veron, £20mil Hargreaves, £22mil Rooney etc…….you can not compare our spending to this.
July 14, 2009 at 11:24
my bad then re Yorke i thought he cost less
SS the team in 98 was cheapish i agree but after that we ddint win anything for 4 years until 2002 and that team in 2002 cost quite a bit to assemble.
Sol was a freebie but was the first player on 100,000 a week
July 14, 2009 at 11:25
Mayank – Oh I get ya, sorry, that was pretty clear in your first comment! Yeah didnt make him look any better thats for sure. But like I said, i do think his late equaliser against the Toffee’s saved his number one spoT with the fans. Maybe its because I know how good he can be that it has annoyed me when I look at the last part of the season???
July 14, 2009 at 11:25
Our Regular Starting 11 last season: (before Arshavin)
Almunia (£3,000,000)
Sagna (£6,000,000)
Touré (£150,000)
Gallas (Swap)
Clichy (£250,000)
Walcott (£5,000,000)
Song (£1,000,000)
Cesc (bought for free)
Nasri (£15,800,000)
van Persie (£2,750,000)
Adebayor (£7,000,000)
Total: £40,950,000 spent on the whole team!
What was it Ronaldo went for now…
July 14, 2009 at 11:25
Matuidi will be better than Cana. But Inler is better than Matuidi. I feel wenger wants to get Inler – if he gets that Ade money he may tempt Udinese to sell.
I just really hope he does not spunk it on chamakh.
July 14, 2009 at 11:26
Rescued his reputation ? Come off it, didn’t he assist or score all of our goals in January ? Then was out for a bit ?!
20 goals, 15 assists and he played crap for 6 months, imagine if he rteally hits form.
July 14, 2009 at 11:28
he was voted gunner of the year!
July 14, 2009 at 11:28
bloody hell imo rvp was our best player last season..there was a point where he singlehandedly carried the team not to ention he is a gooner through and through and he loves the club…
if arshavin was the reason we won the race for 4 th place, RVP is the reason we were even in that fucking race….
you can hardly argue with 20 goals and 13 assists can you…he gave quite a few important assists in the second half of the season…
July 14, 2009 at 11:28
You are taking The three most expensive players in his reign as example, do it for any successful manager and you’ll get a better idea for comparison. Also the team the mancs had was because of the academy. Everyone wanted to play for the mancs so it made getting British talent a lot easier. Arsene had to build a name.
Also I’m not saying he didn’t spend, he’s always spent on experienced players, even a fully fit current squad has Fab as our youngest player.
July 14, 2009 at 11:28
couldnt have said it better rohan
July 14, 2009 at 11:29
lol good point tiag!
Just saw that the BBC have published the Adebayor to City story, so now we have Sky understands and BBC understands!
July 14, 2009 at 11:29
Fran – you made agood point about Pires also being wanted by Madrid when we got him.
There was no tug of war or demand for Henry so there’s no comparison to Benzema there, who’s been ‘the next big thing’ for the last couple of years.
Wiltord, no demand for him other than that his own club Bordeaux(?) didn’t really want to sell him.
July 14, 2009 at 11:29
RAygooner the best that team has acheived is 4th
that was my point
and a few final appearances here and there
we might be punching above our weight but we dont have any belts
July 14, 2009 at 11:29
This money available thing is all academic. I 100% believe that Wenger would not spend big if he did have the magical £100m available! He doesnt believe in the huge money that is going about these days. That much is obvious – he says he disagrees with it all the time! I would emplore his approach totally if it was HIS money to be tight with. But its not! Its our money! We pay the highest prices to watch a football match! There is money available! Fact! It is impossible for there not to be! Anyone who thinks that the £25m from selling Ade will be injected straight back into the team are completely crazy!
July 14, 2009 at 11:30
he didnt play crap either in the second half, he just didnt perform to the same levels as the first half which is understandable.
July 14, 2009 at 11:30
Morning all. I have a sneaky suspicion that we may have offered Ade out!! Chamkh was quoted last week as saying about Arsenal ‘I would very much like to play for them but i can’t say anything yet’. It’s the ‘yet’ at the end that gets you thinking, that along with Arsene basically saying that he would be interested in him if Ade went. I have a feeling Wenger has been planning this but still the police will be at the grove soon because £25m for him is rape!
July 14, 2009 at 11:31
He wont buy chamakh
July 14, 2009 at 11:32
you really think wenger wouldnt splash the cash to win a trophy under all the pressure he’s under just because?
July 14, 2009 at 11:32
He would drop 20 million max on a player
July 14, 2009 at 11:32
Keyser – I just think that having an ‘important goal’ to his name helped him out. We cant continu to speculate how good RvP ‘could’ be over 5 years into his Arsenal career. Like I said, maybe its because I think he can be really good that it annoys me when he isn’t. I just dont think we should pin our hopes on him.
July 14, 2009 at 11:33
RayG – Forget what they sold him for compare that figure to the cost of a Nani and a Hargreaves, or a Berbatov, or a Ferdianad, or a Rooney, or a Veron.
July 14, 2009 at 11:33
i haven’t seen Chamakh play but from what i have heard he isn’t that great. I would rather see us let Vela make the step up and get more games. He will be close to world player of the year someday imo!! He definately has the potential to be a world beater.
July 14, 2009 at 11:33
Our 2003/2004 Regular Starting 11:
Lehmann (£1,000,000 + Warmuz)
Lauren (£7,200,000)
Touré (£150,000)
Campbell (Free)
Cole (Arsenal Youth player)
Ljungberg (£3,000,000)
Vieira (£3,500,000)
Gilberto (£4,500,000)
Pirés (£6,000,000)
Henry (£10,500,000)
Bergkamp (£7,500,000)
Total: £43,350,000 spent on the whole Invincible Team…
July 14, 2009 at 11:34
SS the reason i made that comparison was to make a point about how rated the players were and are in both times.
Henry had a bad season in Italy but he was as highly rated as Benzema is today in France
Pires was the one of the best Midfielders in France the season b4 we got him
Wiltord was also the best forward in France when we signed him
July 14, 2009 at 11:34
Franchise, Vela is not good enough??? What are you taling about. You don’t see him play against top clubs. He is our best talent with wilshere. And Nikki B is not poor. You can see what he has done for us the last weeks. And eddie had an operation for his injurys and now he is pain free. He say iit by himself. Maybe we need a striker and what I think about chamkh is that he is a really good player. And I just read on a site why wenger choose for him. Because his relationship with gourcuff was incredible. Wenger hopes for the same with fabregas. And as this our strikers are(eduardo,arshavin,v persie,bendtner,vela,walcott,chamkh) I am happy. I hope really we sign matuidi, what a footballer he is.
Chamkh and matuidi will do me fine.
July 14, 2009 at 11:34
Luke – Yup, why change the habbit of a life time….especially on the back of the Arshavin signing – thats his big spend for the next 2 years done and dusted.
July 14, 2009 at 11:35
why are u hiding the ‘pricy’ ones on the bench RAy
Reyes, Wiltord
July 14, 2009 at 11:35
Franchise, exactly! We’ve been punching above our weight and if it weren’t for the stadium when we lost Arsene we’d either have to become some billionaires bitch or resign to mid-table mediocrity. Arsene is the biggest factor in our getting the stadium something that’s going to keep us competitive long after Arsene’s reign. SAF hasn’t had to do this, but i don’t believe he would have managed. Heck he tried saving money one summer and ended up 19 points behind us.
July 14, 2009 at 11:35
http://transferleague.co.uk/
check this out
July 14, 2009 at 11:36
“Henry had a bad season in Italy but he was as highly rated as Benzema is today in France”
I’m not having that !!! Benzema hasn’t ended up back in the French u21s at any point has he.
Fair points re Sylvain and Le Bob though
July 14, 2009 at 11:36
Good team Ray, i think that was pretty much first choice.
July 14, 2009 at 11:36
Clacko – Priority has to be a DM, right? Everyone seems to have forgotten that our troubles last year were totally defensive! We score around the same amount of goals as the other big 3 but conceeded a shit load more! Yes we will lose Ade’s goals but we will have Arshavin for the whole season, not just 3 months and Eduardo who should be fit from the off!
July 14, 2009 at 11:37
tonyadamisgod – We had numerous injuries, players who had barely played together and various other reasons and Van Persie was one of the players who tried to hold it together.
It’s not pinning our hopes on him, it’s at least being reasonable, we keep going on about all these players from other clubs, imagine if Van Persie had played a season in the Barcelona team last year ?!
July 14, 2009 at 11:38
no one is stopping u guys from being merry and cherry about our team. i wld tell u things as i see it.
Dutchman Vela is a HOPE player like i pointed out
Nikki B is also another one
if they were any better they would have gotten more chances
July 14, 2009 at 11:38
Franchise – He did put starting eleven.
July 14, 2009 at 11:39
Franchise – Thats cool, as long as you remember, you’re view is very pessimistic, just like your interpretation of Wengers spending.
July 14, 2009 at 11:40
Taig. Defo mate. I am still on the Cana wagon but that doesn’t seem to be happening. If Wenger wants Melo so bad and isn’t looking like he wants to give up Eboue (for god only knows what reason) then we could give them the buy out clause. As far as i am aware he hasn’t signed for Juve yet??!!
July 14, 2009 at 11:41
And Dutchman i didnt say not good enough. probably if u break down what i said then it might translate to not good enough but i never said vela wasnt good enough
July 14, 2009 at 11:42
Franchise i see where you are coming from because he hasn’t had many games but in the ones he has played in i think he has shown enough potential and skill and pace and strength to prove to me at least that he won’t be a flop.
July 14, 2009 at 11:42
SS France had the best team in the world i bet their U21 would have thrashed England
July 14, 2009 at 11:42
Franchise, Do you think that vela has a fine future here??????? And nikkie B?????
July 14, 2009 at 11:42
Berba is a hope (that he shows commitment)
Rooney is a hope (that he can convert commtment into goals)
Owen is sure-fire I’ll give you that
Torres is a hope (can he stay fit long enough)
Drogba is a hope(he’s 32 and relies on strength)
Anelka is a hope( he ain’t called Le sulk for nothing)
Malouda Kalou are no better than Nik
July 14, 2009 at 11:42
http://transferleague.co.uk/
This proves that wenger has always balanced it in the end.
July 14, 2009 at 11:43
Didn’t Vieira move for 30 million in 99′ and Crespo for 35 million in 00′ ?!
July 14, 2009 at 11:43
ARSENAL TEAM OF THE DECADE – 200 -2010
http://m.goal.com/art_1375645?p=3&SID=4aa6553d7f3a3b2461e632712b976b94
Seaman
Lauren Campbell Toure Cole
Ljungberg Vieira Fabregas Pires
Bergkamp Henry
July 14, 2009 at 11:43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxpqsh9K6NU
I love this
July 14, 2009 at 11:44
July 14, 2009 at 11:44
Keyser – thats fine. I’m just not one of those fans that gets all excited by him. I know he is a talent. i just want to see it more often. My very original point was that he needs someone to tell him to calm down. He snatched all of his shots towards the end of the season, trying to hit the ball as hard as he can. He’s better than that and I would love to see it. Right now and in a 4-4-2 formation I would play Arshavin and Eduardo upfront. Just my opinion.
July 14, 2009 at 11:45
Man Utd 1st choice Starting 11 last season:
van der Sar (£2,000,000)
Neville (Youth player)
Ferdinand (£30,000,000)
Vidic (£7,000,000)
Evra (£5,500,000)
Park (£4,000,000)
Carrick (£18,600,000)
Scholes (Youth player)
Ronaldo (£12,240,000)
Rooney (£20,000,000)
Berbatov (£30,750,000)
Total: £230,090,000 on the whole team!
July 14, 2009 at 11:45
this is actually what i said far from vela not being good enough
Franchise Says:
July 14, 2009 at 09:26
Gunner8 hi…… so strong based on what evidence?????
did we sign torres yet?
as fans we are often very guilty of having short term memories
no one in our attack i.e. including when ade was there really gets me excited
even our most clinical striker eduardo is doubly rated cause he is seen as a martyr after his horrific injury
Bendtner is poor
vela is young and still adapting
VP with his injury record i dont know what to make of him
vela is young and adapting i said
July 14, 2009 at 11:46
What does that mean nishanth????
July 14, 2009 at 11:46
Clacko – £21m for Melo….not a very Wenger like signing so I wont hold my breath. He’s probably right not to pay that much either. I’d sooner buy Matuidi and Cana than spend that much on just one guy. I still think Veloso could be good – too many people think that because Bolton made a joke of an offer he must be shit!
July 14, 2009 at 11:47
Just wondering on this paddy v story about a pay as you play deal. Would any of you have him back with say matuildi aswell? I’d take that anyday
July 14, 2009 at 11:48
gday all,
Still rejoicing in Mark Webber’s win here!
July 14, 2009 at 11:49
Dan – Yup! Adrenaline alone would give us some good performances from Paddy! He could never sustain a long stint in the team but save him for the big games and thats a winning idea!
July 14, 2009 at 11:49
Mayank 11.42. Nice work fella
July 14, 2009 at 11:49
Evo – Webber, a true Brit!!
July 14, 2009 at 11:49
Reyes came in in january 2004 and Wiltord only played som 10-15 games that season…
July 14, 2009 at 11:50
Have you been drinking Dan…??
July 14, 2009 at 11:51
Raygooner if there was a trophy for spending then we would get it but there isnt.
Sir Alex has adapted with the times re spending and i respect him for that. Arsenal chose to reduce spending when clubs like chelsea started to spend more and there was only one way we could have gone down.
we have done well to stay in the top 4 but IMO we could have released the strings on the purse a bit more especially last summer. the margins are very little and if i trust any manager to spend £15m on a top player it would wenger. hopefully we dont make the same mistakes we made last summer
I just think we would make a mistake if we sell Ade and dont replace him adequately.
July 14, 2009 at 11:51
the only players that played a decent amount of games to be considered in the Invincibles Team is Parlour and Edu
July 14, 2009 at 11:51
Please please don’t call that red nose alchy cunt “sir alex” That’s for mancs
July 14, 2009 at 11:52
tonyadamsisgod – Yeah I know, the negativity was just building, need to counter it.
Towards the end of the season, the pressure was also telling, he’s one of the oldest heads in the team and when you’re left almost on your own with soo many players out, as the player the younger ones look to, it’d be hard for anyone.
He stayed fit for the majority of the season and I think he’s worked a lot on his right foot, maybe to the detriment of some of what made him special, but he can only improve.
July 14, 2009 at 11:53
Taig, don’t Sporting want about £15m for Veloso though? i agree with the Melo deal, can’t see that happening unless they lower to around £13m plus Eboue if we get £20m plus Richards then i could see it happening. I would still like Cana and they have said he is available. Hope we do use the cash to get a decent DM in, we really need one. Wouldn’t mind that Hazard either then we can put Theo up top, that would excite me.
July 14, 2009 at 11:54
Ray we started building our invincibles team after the 98 double (i know vieira and berg and others were in 98 team)….. can u work out what the 2002 double team cost in comparison to the 1998 team. the difference is quite a lot i believe. thats my point on that issue
July 14, 2009 at 11:55
Keyser – ha, well nipped in the bud! I presume Wenger doesnt like a 4-3-3 because he never plays it but a front, line of Eduardo with Arshavin and RvP on either side is well worth some thought! Another reason why I dont think we need to replace Ade if he goes. You have Nikki B as Eduardo’s replacement, Vela as Arshavin’s replacement and Walcott as RvP’s replacement. All fits together quite well dont you think?
July 14, 2009 at 11:56
I’m with you TAIG. Nope not been drinking sharkey, if heveoesnt play he doesn’t get payed. But adds that experienced head and an unbelievable passion that we clearly miss. Teach a thing or two to the youngsters
July 14, 2009 at 11:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9fgQjFEj0Q&feature=related
A must see!!!!!
July 14, 2009 at 11:56
Wow that’s some reframing you’ve done there Franchise “if there was a trophy for spending then we would get it but there isnt.”
From
“if u think he achieved success in his fisrt years at arsenal by not spending then u wrong”
Why are you not taking into account that we’ve built a new stadium Franchise. And where is this myth about the youth and Wenger not spending come about. Wenger has just bought Arsh and Verm. The first 11s youngest player is cesc at 21 and 6 years experience.
July 14, 2009 at 11:57
GM do u mean Sir Alex
ok i wont call Sir Alex Sir Alex anymore :retarded wink: aka 
July 14, 2009 at 11:57
Clacko – I wouldnt do the deal unless we got Richards – surely that just makes sense, right? Thats the defense sorted then!
July 14, 2009 at 11:58
It would make my summer if this guy leaves.
Please make it happen.
just proves though that there are some good things to come out of billionaires coming into football. If it wasn’t for them, we would be stuck with the fucker.
July 14, 2009 at 12:00
the stadium has made us richer. MAyank we pay 40% more for tickets than other clubs. the fans are the ones bearing most of the financial burden of the stadium move not Arsenal FC. Arsenal are making more money because of the stadia. where is the balance? we stopped spending cos we moved and have won fuck all. we used to spend if not as much as MAnchester UNited but more than Pool, Scum, Everton etc and we were winning trophies.
July 14, 2009 at 12:00
You can’t expect Wenger to find a player like Henry or Vieira or Pirés every year, i think though in Arshavin & Cesc we have the same qualities like in Pirés and Vieira…
But for Henry, well, who has those qualities he had 4-5 years ago? He dominated the Premier League on his own!
Only a couple of players in the whole world (and they are not in our range to buy) could maybe do that, MAYBE!
July 14, 2009 at 12:01
About vela, when we had it difficult in the easy games, vela came in around the 70 min and our team looks beautiful, he gives us power, he moves and his skills are beautiful. I was at the amsterdam tournement last year. When arsenal play against sevilla, it was enjoying to watch to vela. He was so good. As he had the ball, he gives him never away. His skills were incredible, the same in the newcastle game. He is one for the future, and next year will it begin!!
July 14, 2009 at 12:02
tonyadamsisgod – It doesn’t stop there, Clichy/ Gibbs, Sagna/ Ebway and so on, I’m not too bothered either way with Adebayor, I’d prefer if he stays because we’ve finally got a full and fit squad to choose from.
July 14, 2009 at 12:03
i would definately want Richards in any part of the deal. Wenger was after him either last season or the season before and he doesn’t seem to get on with hughes much so he should be part of it! Then we can have eboue leave and still have a good right back as cover.
July 14, 2009 at 12:04
fair point Ray u cant keep plucking talents on the cheap. that is why u have to pay a bit more but arsenal are still stuck in the past on that one. we would rather not sign a needed player than pay an extra million for him.
July 14, 2009 at 12:04
The Frenchman is more than willing to allow Emmanuel Adebayor push through the Emirates exit door.
As speculation continues to mount regarding the immediate future of Arsenal’s Togolese targetman Emmanuel Adebayor, Arsene Wenger remains publicly coy on the matter, however, according to the Daily Mail, the Frenchman is more than willing to allow the £22 million-rated striker to join Mark Hughes’ continued revolution at Manchester City.
Adebayor became one of the most in-demand strikers in world football following his 30-goal haul in the 2007-08 season, with Barcelona and AC Milan allegedly readying £30 million bids. Each advance was quashed by the Gunners, though, who were keen on keeping the 25-year-old.
Despite failing to reproduce the form that propelled him into the shortlists of Europe’s elite, Adebayor has still played his way into an exit away from the Emirates Stadium, as Mark Hughes and City are desire the targetman’s services despite already acquiring Carlos Tevez and Roque Santa Cruz this summer.
The Daily Mail speculate that it is Adebayor’s fractious nature in the dressing room that has caused his downfall, as an on-pitch falling out with Nicklas Bendtner during a cup game with Tottenham Hotspur in 2008 seemed to embody the temperemental aspect of the former African footballer of the Year’s personality.
July 14, 2009 at 12:06
Can richards cover at CB too because if so, get him
July 14, 2009 at 12:06
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1199585/Wenger-wants-cheap-Chamakh-Arsenal-prepare-life-Adebayor-7m-bid.html
July 14, 2009 at 12:06
I would love it Ade left. I’ve always wanted a right footed version of Eduardo because it’s just good to have that balance, and also to come in if Eduardo’s injury problems continue.
It’s a complete myth that we need Ade because of his physical presence. Maybe at White Hart Lane you can kind of rely on him to be a pest aerially, but in general he brings no more robustness that your average forward.
July 14, 2009 at 12:07
Again Franchise you miss the point, why do ‘Pool and Spurs want a new stadium? ‘Cause it’s the only way forward. 40% of 50000 season tickets come out to about 25 mil a year, the stadium was 350m odd, so no i don’t think spending 70m on players has been an option. Also we don’t have bumper sponsorship deals like CFC and MUFC.
July 14, 2009 at 12:07
Bendtner is very popular in the dressing room. I love bendtner, he and vela are our future. They can play as the best together!!
July 14, 2009 at 12:08
Luke – I’d be looking to utilise him at CB more than anywhere else!
July 14, 2009 at 12:08
sweet.
July 14, 2009 at 12:08
its not a myth Mayank where have u been. the cobwebs in our trophy cabinet might have recently changed this with arshavin and verm arrivals. b4 then it was a case of loose an experienced probably ageing world class player and replace him with a cheap youngster with more potential than microsoft in the 80s
July 14, 2009 at 12:09
Also you have to take into account the kind of people that live in ‘Pool and Manchester, they have a lower income than Londoners, so the tickets will be lower obviously.
July 14, 2009 at 12:09
Agree Dutchman. Without Ade, we might have a forward line with a footballing IQ higher than that of a tangerine.
July 14, 2009 at 12:10
Dutchman, what makes you think Bendtner is popular in the dressing room!? Its quite the opposite, last season he spent a lot of time warming up alone and often walked off the pitch whilst the rest of the team celebrated together.
July 14, 2009 at 12:11
where does the £70m u quote come from? who mentioned it? we are a club in need of a rethink re transfers this season that is why we are all hopeful things would change. if u dont spend (enough) u dont win. the game has changed. and unfortunately there are no stadia competitions we might win in all categories
July 14, 2009 at 12:12
Transfer league is interesting.
Basically SAF has delivered total dominance for UTD in the last few years with a net spend of £4.7m per season.
Still think Wenger is the best around?
July 14, 2009 at 12:12
We lost Henry and did very well until Brum match, so i don’t call that a disappointing season. We lost Vieira and got to the CL final and lost due to a moment of madness, we were the better team. Last years was a one of and was rectified mid-season and in this summer.
July 14, 2009 at 12:13
Mayank stupid point u make there. the tickets have no right to be 40% more expensive than Pool’s or anyone else’s. Pool fans actually pay less to watch a better team think about it
July 14, 2009 at 12:14
This is the most hillarious and genius web article EVER
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/arsenal-fans-hold-prayer-vigil-for-adebayor-move-200907141901/
July 14, 2009 at 12:14
or should i say paid less to watch a better team last season
July 14, 2009 at 12:15
Mayank. I’m not sure why you’re having to state that everything costs more in London. Everyone has got to know that already…surely !!
Its also why you can watch Barca at home for under a tenner.
July 14, 2009 at 12:17
gambon – where have you got that from ?!
July 14, 2009 at 12:17
Franchise you are impossible to argue with, yes we haven’t won a trophy in some time, who’s arguing that? You said it yourself that we have a manager that can win an award for building good team w/o spending much and also that we have a good stadium. Besides that we have a good experienced forst team with Fab being the youngest player, so yes i don’t think there’s any need for me to be so negative. As for the 70m figure that’s about how much we’d be spending per season to be at the top if it weren’t for Wenger’s shrewdness.
July 14, 2009 at 12:17
Dan – no offence intended earlier.
PV4 could hardly run when he left us, and is now even older and suffering moere injuries.
For the record, PV4 in his prime was the most dominant player I have ever seen. He took total control of games in a way that no other player ever has, in my eyes.
July 14, 2009 at 12:17
Keyser, 5 year net spend on transfer league.
July 14, 2009 at 12:17
Franchise – Liverpool want to build a new stadium, how much do you think the prices will be there ?!
July 14, 2009 at 12:18
Some of the comments on here make me chuckle!! People are too quick to read a few articles about a player and then make out he is the second coming!! Has anyone seen Matuidi? Anyone know anything about him? So whats with the bigging him up? Then the comments about having Richards come to Arsenal…why? The guy is overrated and one dimensional – he wouldnt be any better than Senderos and Djorou.
Last season everyone was moaning about Vela not playing enough games, or wanting Arshavin sitting in a No.10 role more often etc…going out and buying another striker wont help their cause.
Personally i would rather see Wenger use the money from any sale of Ade on a tough tackling midfielder and possibly a winger rather than trying to spread the money out on several positions.
July 14, 2009 at 12:19
And sunderland fans pay as much as ‘pools? They should be asking for Torres too, or better yet organise a strike until the prices are brought down to match Sunderland’s footballing standards.
July 14, 2009 at 12:19
not as astronomical as ours keyser.
July 14, 2009 at 12:19
gambon – Our net spend since the Premiership began is 40 million less than Fergus spent on transfers in the last 2 years.
July 14, 2009 at 12:20
Keyser basically the average is now very misleading because of Utd’s net spend of -£66mil!
Last year they had a net spend of £39mil, season before £30 mil
July 14, 2009 at 12:21
Franchise – Yeah right, the only reason it might not be is because we’re based in London in the first place.
July 14, 2009 at 12:21
Keyser,
Man utds net spend is £4.7m pa, ours is £3m pa.
So theyve spent 1.7m more than us and won vastly more.
Still believe in Wengers project!?
July 14, 2009 at 12:21
A. – I know it is, heh, I’m sure Gambon knows that to, well hopefully.
July 14, 2009 at 12:23
Mayank u r making silly points now
u cant blame anything on the stadia. every board memebr has come out and said we are in a better position financially cos of the stadium. we are in a berre state fianancially why does the football side have to suffer? have i broken it enough for u. or u want it more granular
hate it or love it the whole world thinks arsenal as a big club have been underachieving since 2004
keep throwing in more ’sunderlands’ and ‘70m’ qutes to further confuse the debate
it wont affect me i know what im talking about
July 14, 2009 at 12:23
Paulinho – “Without Ade, we might have a forward line with a footballing IQ higher than that of a tangerine.”
Brilliant!
My favourite thing about this comment though is that our forward line is made up of two players then Ade’s IQ has to be significantly less than a tangerine to average at that!
I’m thinking maybe an almond.
Tangerines definitely have bigger IQs than almonds.
July 14, 2009 at 12:24
Franchise going by your logic Spurs season tickets should be about £100.
July 14, 2009 at 12:24
The 2001/2002 Double Winning Team is almost the same as the 2003/2004 Team with the exception of Seaman in goal instead of Lehmann, Keown as partner to Campbell instead of Touré and Parlour instead of Gilberto with Vieira in the middle. And maybe Wiltord & Bergkamp played 50/50 alongside Henry at front.
The 1997/1998 Team:
Seaman (£1,300,000)
Dixon (£400,000)
Adams (Youth player)
Keown (£2,000,000)
Winterburn (£407,000)
Parlour (Youth player)
Vieira (£3,500,000)
Petit (£2,500,000)
Overmars (£7,000,000)
Bergkamp (£7,500,000)
Anelka (£500,000)
Total: £25,107,000 for the whole team.
But if you look at who Wenger bought in:
To the 1997/1998 Double Winning Team the most notable players Wenger bought:
Vieira (3,5M)
Overmars (7M)
Petit (2,75M)
Anelka (0,5M)
and Grimandi (2,75M)
Total of £16,500,000
then for the 2001/2002 Double Winning Team:
Lauren (7,2M)
Campbell (Free)
Cole (from the Youth Academy)
Ljungberg (3m)
Pirès (6m)
Henry (10,5M)
Wiltord (13,5M)
Total: £40,200,000
and for the 2003/2004 Team:
Gilberto (4,5M)
Lehmann (1M)
Reyes (11M)
Edu (6M)
Toure (0,15M)
Total: £22,650,000
July 14, 2009 at 12:26
Lol gambon
Utd’s net spend over the past three seasons is £23.6mil actually, ours is -£1.37
July 14, 2009 at 12:27
gambon – heh, what was it before they sold Ronaldo ? How much is there squad worth ?! With/ Without Tevez/ Ronaldo ?!
July 14, 2009 at 12:27
thanks Ray
July 14, 2009 at 12:27
Yes we are in a better financial position becasue of the stadium, that’s whta it was supposed to do, but not right away. We’ve broken our record for signing an offensive player and a defensive player. We were bidding for a 21m player for DM. Something we wouldn’t have done before the stadium. The sunderland was thrown in to point out how weak the argument about season ticket to league table ratio was. Which i think you realised.
July 14, 2009 at 12:28
Ray you also have to include money made off Overmars and Anelka.
July 14, 2009 at 12:29
that is why they have won more than us in that same period cos they spend and we dont
lets spend some fucking money this summer
July 14, 2009 at 12:29
RVP is important for team however everyone is saying that he had a very good season while Ade was awful but he only had 4 more goals & 1 assists more than Ade from playing more games.
I would like to see Ade have an decent season nevermind a great one, also Ade played thru our 2 patches [Oct/Nov & Jan/Feb] last season when we created nothing, so i think alot u are talking stupid tinted glasses.
Yes he is not perfect but who is, plus the thing alot of fans dont like about are easy to fix. We cannot afford to lose another player like we Flamini/Hleb has they about to enter their prime age otherwise our transition is set backwards again for another 2 years.
July 14, 2009 at 12:30
Selling Ade for £25 million = good
Selling Ade to another Premier League = madness
It’s just bound to backfire and the cunt scores a shit load. Sods law
July 14, 2009 at 12:30
Keyser,
What has that got to do with it? They did sell Ronaldo, thats why its called NET spend, not GROSS.
Fact is that UTD have barely spent more than us in the last 5 years, yet have crushed us on all fronts in terms of success.
A,
So we have spent -£1m over the last few years, while the club has been making insane profits.
Is it just me that thinks that’s wrong?!
July 14, 2009 at 12:31
Franchise – Are you saying we should spend more ? Or that we can spend as much as the rest of them ?!
July 14, 2009 at 12:31
let’s face it, if Wenger hadn’t bought Henry back in 1999 we would have had a 11 year long trophyless run…
July 14, 2009 at 12:33
gambon – Do you mean what’s squad worth got to do with it ?! Quite a lot really.
July 14, 2009 at 12:33
Supergunner07 – I would keep Ade if we could, but it seems to be the best answer to generating the cash needed to buy key players to strengthen our squad. We could get the all important DM and a RW or CB for the money we get from Ade.
July 14, 2009 at 12:34
Ray… we had other players in that team. Some pretty amazing other players.
July 14, 2009 at 12:34
we should spend more not as much
paying £30m for berbatov might look crazy but he only cost that much cos the selling club were unwilling to sell him locally or even at all
alonso was rumoured to cost £16m last season and we refused to buy him. only £16m FFS
July 14, 2009 at 12:34
They sold Ronaldo this season though Gambon, not last season, so it can’t be included for the last few years, because this season hasn’t happened yet. We could win everything this year, Utd could fall out of the Champions League spots. Whilst Utd have been dominating they’ve had a net spend of £23.6mil.
It depends Gambon, none of us really know what the financial situation is, and with the debts supposedly increasing I wouldn’t say it’s definitely wrong, it depends what’s actually going on, and none of us know that for sure.
July 14, 2009 at 12:35
Gambon we are yet to see their season with their new net expenditure. You can make that statement after the season has finished. If we sold Henry, Pires, Vieira after 04 i’m sure we’d have been in major profit.
July 14, 2009 at 12:35
We always sell players for more than we bought them for…with the exception of Jeffers, Richard Wright & those who has gone for free (like Flamini & Pirès)
July 14, 2009 at 12:36
enough of this i’m off for lunch
July 14, 2009 at 12:36
Keyser,
No im saying what does the fact that they sold Ronaldo matter, theyve managed to have a period of success that we will never have in the next 50 years, at a cost of £4.7m per season, well within the budget of Fulham, let alone us.
What has squad value got to do with anything?
July 14, 2009 at 12:37
Franchise most reports in the end were that he was in London ready to sign but Benitez cancelled the deal at the last minute because the Barry deal fell through, nothing to do with the money we were willing to pay, that had all been agreed.
£30 mil for Berba is ridiculous, and shows exactly why we should be so prudent with our spending, if we wasted £30 mil on one player it would take up about 3 years of spending and be a complete fuck up!
July 14, 2009 at 12:37
First no-one knows why the Xabi deal didn’t happen, i find it hard to believe that it was over 200k, Benitez said it himself that he didn’t sell ’cause they didn’t get Barry. You can’t quote a price of a player that is unavailable.
July 14, 2009 at 12:38
Gambon that simply isn’t true though, they’ve won the leage the last three years at a cost of £23.6mil per season, not 4.7mil
July 14, 2009 at 12:39
scale of 10 for overall management inlc tactical nous, motivation, training
scale of 10 for spending
Alex Red Nose Fergie would get 7 and 9 for the last 5 years
and wenger would have 8.5 and 6
can u see where we have lagged
fergie 16
arsene 14.5
we didnt need to spend astronomical sums to compete with fergie cos we have a better manager but he is making up the margin and pushing it with his spending
July 14, 2009 at 12:39
Has Arsenal borrowed too much?
Robert Peston | 00:00 AM, Tuesday, 14 July 2009
I’ve obtained a copy of the financial analysis of Arsenal that was made by the investment bank Lazard Brothers in support of Alisher Usmanov’s proposal that the club should raise up to £150m in a rights issue.
It’s a chunky 35-page document. But its conclusion can be summed up very simply: Arsenal has too much debt to pose a serious challenge to Europe’s biggest clubs; or to use the jargon, it is over-leveraged, too thinly capitalised.
This is a verdict that has been rejected by Arsenal’s board, which has been advised by NM Rothschild.
The North London club’s directors argue that paying down debt would have only a marginal impact on the availability of financial resources.
Of course, as an Arsenal-supporting BBC journalist, I couldn’t possible take sides in this dispute between the Uzbekistani plutocrat and Arsenal’s directors.
But some of you will be interested in Usmanov’s point of view.
Here are a few bullet points from the Lazard document:
1) It believes that Arsenal’s earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation (EBITDA) will fall from between £55m-60m in 2009 to £35-40m in 2010. The most striking contributor to this squeeze that it cites is a 12-14% increase in costs to £179m “as a result of players being compensated for tax changes and a number of step-ups in wages for individual players”.
2) It predicts that cash flow will fall by more than that because of some pre-payments on assorted deals that were taken in 2007.
3) It says that Arsenal’s fans are already paying 40% more than the average for the big four English clubs for match tickets and 24% more for season tickets – implying there’s little scope to increase gate revenues, especially in a recession.
4) It calculates Arsenal’s gross average annual spend on new players as £18m, compared with £37m for the big four; and the net annual spend, including sales, as precisely zero, compared with a £20.2m big four average
5) Perhaps most germanely of all, it fears that redevelopment of Arsenal’s former Highbury stadium into luxury apartments may not turn out to be profitable – and that refinancing £140m of property-related debt over the next couple of years will be neither cheap or easy.
So Usmanov – the second-biggest shareholder in Arsenal with a 25 per cent stake – suggests that investors stump up a maximum of £150m via a rights issue of new shares.
This would provide additional funds for Arsene Wenger to augment the playing squad, and/or pay off some of the property debt, and/or pay down a substantial portion of the £242m of separate debt incurred to fund the development of the new Emirates stadium.
As I say, Arsenal’s board has said no to all this, following detailed scrutiny by bankers from Rothschild – which included those bankers sounding out the most important individual at the club, Arsene Wenger.
The advice to the board from Rothschild was;
a) paying down the Emirates-related debt would save a maximum of £5m a year;
b) there are better ways to rehabilitate the Highbury redevelopment, including a putative cunning plan under negotiation right now – and even if the worst came to the worst, there should be no direct financial contagion to the club, since the providers of the property loans have no recourse to the footballing assets;
c) perhaps most controversially, the chaps from Rothschild don’t believe Arsene Wenger is seriously constrained by lack of finance in his ability to develop the playing squad – and, more importantly, they don’t believe that he feels fettered (if you see what I mean).
All of which would be described by some as a courageous blocking tackle: turning down equity finance during a sharp recession, and while the worst conditions in living memory for property developers prevail, well that’s quite ballsy.
July 14, 2009 at 12:40
sure we had many other good players but do you really think we’d won anything without Henry back in those days?
2001/2002 Season Henry scored 24 goals in the league (top goalscorer of the league)
2003/2004 Season Henry scored 30 goals in the league (top goalscorer in the league)
Of course it was the mix of the team that was great but without Henry the mix wouldn’t have been complete…and that’s a FACT!
July 14, 2009 at 12:41
A he was never in London he denied it. Myles was chatting bollox.
the story says Arsenal started negotiations with Parry;
deal broke down as a result Pool’s Barry deal also broke down as they needed Alonso money to finance Barry
wenger makes another bid on Mon Sept 1st, Pool say fuck off
July 14, 2009 at 12:41
Franchise – Only 16 million ? Fabregas cost what ?, Arshavin probably cost less and I still doubt they would’ve sold him to us for that much.
It’s about value, if Berbatov had cost us 30 million and he’d had the same season he had for United, we’d be fucked, but to them they can write if off.
We keep on saying spend more or we used to have players like Vieira, Henry and so on, but as you pointed out those same players cost 4 million or 10, but look at the value we got from them.
July 14, 2009 at 12:42
If we didn’t have Henry then we would have bought someone else Ray, and that’s a big if anyway. If Anelka hadn’t left we wouldn’t have gotten Henry, but Anelka would have won us leagues. If Anelka AND Henry left then we would have signed someone else who would have won us leagues.
July 14, 2009 at 12:43
i’m off now, cheers Grovers!
Season stast soon…4 days until first friendly against Barnet….
July 14, 2009 at 12:44
gambon – Read what A. wrote, and because they didn’t suddenly start with a clean slate, they had a squad that was worth that much more than ours to being with, if they’d had a 40 million pound squad, how much do you think they would have had to invest to make up the difference in quality ?!
July 14, 2009 at 12:45
There are varying reports Franchise, though if you can find quotes saying it didn’t happen then fair enough. It wasn’t Myles Palmer, it was some bloke from the London Echo, Myles was the one who said it was over just £200k, bloke from the Liverpool Echo contradicted him and said Alonso was actually in London, but Benitez cancelled the deal because of Barry.
July 14, 2009 at 12:45
Where did you get that faceman?
July 14, 2009 at 12:46
unfortunately keyser wenger has made all clubs more scout conscious. the best players of young ages cost quite a lot, we are then left with the second/third rate ones.
the only way this team can prove its worth is by delivering some proper silverware.
we stole cesc keyser that is a different thing. h cost us nothing. the compensation we paid was for our naughtiness
July 14, 2009 at 12:46
A,
no theyve spent £4.7m per season. Transfer league shows this.
You are picking a timeframe that suits your argument, which is easy to do.
I could say that in the last 6 months we’ve spent £27m and won nothing, which means we are running a net spend of £54m pa to get nowhere, which is shocking.
July 14, 2009 at 12:47
sorry “A”, but there were no one in Henry’s standards back then…Noone even close…
Of course we would have bought someone else but that wouldn’t have been enough in my opinion…
but that’s history now, moving on…
cheers!
July 14, 2009 at 12:47
Interesting read Faceman!
July 14, 2009 at 12:48
Pedro it’s been banging about since yesterday, been pasted on here 3 or 4 times!
It’s Usmanov trying to put things in such a way that makes the financial situation look as bad as is possible, and making all his estimations based on the worst possible scenarios etc, and the board’s bankers said it was wrong.
July 14, 2009 at 12:48
@ tonyadamsisgod ,yes i would take signings if we could get it BUT what we need more than signing is continuity not constantly losing players from our 1st choice starting XI then setting us back. Look at the core players of other top 4 clubs [except CR], it is pretty stable for 5 year period whereas ours is always changing.
Also i keep hearing ignorant fans saying we should sell a 6ft 3 forward in our team that is already short in height & replace him with 5ft 9 striker. Very Foolish if u ask me
July 14, 2009 at 12:49
16m for xabi alonso was a steal IMO. Stupid to miss out on him
arshavin cost £15m(ish) cos he was on the last few months of his contract.
we cant keep shopping for bargains in the reduced section of tesco.
6 years without the league would be sad
July 14, 2009 at 12:49
gambon – Do you not get what he’s saying ? They’ve sold Ronaldo after however many season of competing by spending a net of 23 million a season.
If we suddenly sold all of our players, and made a profit of a couple of hundred million, does that mean we were able to compete with United over the years whilst making a profit of 60 million a season ? No, because we’ve just sold them.
July 14, 2009 at 12:49
According to this
We have accepted 25 million pounds..for adebayor
This report says adebayor also had a medical today.
i dont belive dailymail much though
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1199522/Emmanuel-Adebayor-fee-agreed-Manchester-City-continue-summer-spending-Arsenal-accept-25m-Togo-striker.html?ITO=1490
July 14, 2009 at 12:49
pedro, a mate emailed it to me
July 14, 2009 at 12:49
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/2009/07/ive_obtained_a_copy_of.html
Has Arsenal borrowed too much?
July 14, 2009 at 12:52
Adebayor seems to be a done deal.
Now we have to wait for the arrival of Matuidi and the the big signing of………..no one! That will be it. All done for this summer. 2 players in, 1 player out.
No EPL title. No trophies at all. Bye Cesc. Bye van Persie. Bye Arshavin. Bye Wenger, thanks for fucking it all up!
July 14, 2009 at 12:54
Man City have released their squad numbers Adebayor’s 25 is not taken yet
hmmmmmm
Squad numbers in full:
1 Shay GIVEN (GK)
2 Micah RICHARDS
3 Wayne BRIDGE
4 Nedum ONUOHA
5 Pablo ZABALETA
6 Michael JOHNSON
7 Stephen IRELAND
8 Shaun WRIGHT-PHILLIPS
9 Valeri BOJINOV
10 ROBINHO
11 ELANO Blumer
12 Stuart TAYLOR (GK)
14 Roque SANTA CRUZ
15 Javier GARRIDO (J.GARRIDO)
16 Kasper SCHMEICHEL (GK)
17 Martin PETROV
18 Gareth BARRY
20 Felipe CAICEDO
22 Richard DUNNE
23 RETIRED
24 Ched EVANS
26 BEN HAIM Tal
27 BENJANI Mwaruwari
29 Kelvin ETUHU
30 Shaleum LOGAN
31 Adam CLAYTON
33 Vincent KOMPANY
34 Nigel DE JONG
35 Scott KAY
36 Javan VIDAL
37 Gunnar NIELSEN (GK)
39 Craig BELLAMY
40 Vladimir WEISS
41 Ben MEE
42 Karl MOORE
43 Clayton MCDONALD
44 Dedryck BOYATA
45 Gregory CUNNINGHAM
46 Paul MARSHALL
47 James POOLE
48 Abdisalam IBRAHIM
49 Donal MCDERMOTT
50 Ryan MCGIVERN
51 Robert MAK
52 Alex TCHUIMENI-NIMLEY
53 David BALL
54 Kieran TRIPPIER
55 Andrew TUTTE
57 Tobias JOHANSEN (GK)
http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Club-news/2009/July/Tevez-gets-his-favourite-No32
July 14, 2009 at 12:54
Franchise – Apart from the point of view that Liverpool wouldn’t have sold him to us for that price, I really don’t think even 16 million would have been a steal.
Do you get what I’m saying though ? Arshavin for 15 million is worth more thn what we paid, Alonso at 16 million is like buying for cost.
Why do we buy young players ? Because while we pay for potential, there’s a question mark over whether it will be fulfilled, though at the same time we could benefit a whole lot more in the long run.
Since we can’t compete with the teams around us toe-to-toe we have to find players that give greater value for money.
We’ve already spent relatively big for us on Vermaelen and Arshavin and I’d trust Wenger to find those other players that could make the difference.
July 14, 2009 at 12:55
No Gambon that’s what you’re doing!
Utd have won the league the last three years with a net spend over that time of £23.6 mil
Since they last won something, ie this season they have a net spend of -£66mil, and havn’t won fuck all yet, if they win things this year then in a year’s time you could include this years spending with the last three years, but this season can’t be included in their “period of domination” if they don’t win something this year!!
Think about it….
Last season they won the league with a net spend of £38.75mil
07/08 they won the league with a net spend of £27.9mil
06/07 they won the league with a net spend of £4.1 mil
That’s a total of £70.75mil spent net over their last three years of domination.
What they’ve spent this summer isn’t in their period of domination because they’ve not won a single thing since, however much you’ve love to include it because of how much it distorts the averages!
July 14, 2009 at 12:55
afternoon All Grovers and Gooners alike
Thx for the Post Geoff…
sorry to butt in but Mayank and Franchise you both make some good points,but as we’re never told the whole story about the financial situation..well..we really dont know im sorry to say…ill back up Geoff on this point..honesty..could..no….should be a priority….
and i dont mean a detailed financial insight,but we should be given a clear and understandable insight in Our Beloved Arsenal’s economy..
i really think this would make us Gooners get behind the club nomatter what the result may be..and we might jus accept to pay a bit more for tickets if we thought that would help out the club in any way…we pay too much…on the other hand that ticket prices are higher in London than Sunderland is understandable..and the way it is all around the world..Barca is expencive…the yellow sub we played against are much cheaper..way of life..
again sorry for bargin in like this..
tom
July 14, 2009 at 12:55
Robert Preston, BBC Buisness Editor just been on 5 Live talking about our finances
BLEAK
July 14, 2009 at 12:58
Faceman this is all just based on the Usmanov dossier, which very publically was designed to make the finances look as bad as is possible. Don’t worry, everything is much rosier that they look in that document!
July 14, 2009 at 13:00
spuds after flamini now….
July 14, 2009 at 13:02
Have to agree to disagree A.
If utd win the league this season will you acknowledge it as the greatest feat in football history?? Winning the prem after making £66m
July 14, 2009 at 13:02
Faceman mate
taking a quick look around manu are in deeper shit ..l’pool much deeper..chelski livin on borrowed money if..if..abramovich leaves they are no longer a club ? mancity same as chelski…so amongst the big four +..we are in the best financial position ..no doubt ..could it be better of course but during this financial times..well i think we’re doin quite well..
tom
July 14, 2009 at 13:04
A Usmanov cannot deceive the board by telling them that a blue is black
the board are playing a daangerous game
one sensible point is that if we are trying to reneg higbury loans it would be very expensive to do so
another is that the assets of Arsenal Football Club are not tied to the loan
July 14, 2009 at 13:04
tom – i agree mate
but money IS tight… so hopefully all the doomongers who keep telling wenger to spend the loot can chill out a bit.
July 14, 2009 at 13:07
No gambon, because that would be a massive exaggeration! If Utd win the league this year it’ll be a great achievement, winning the league after selling one of their best players and bringing in noone decent, but the greatest feat in football history?! You sound like a hyterical Utd fan saying that!!
Lets look at things rationally for a second here, Fergie hasn’t done amazing wheeling and dealing to get a net spend of -£66 mil this year, it’s just because Madrid have gone absolutely crazy this summer and spent double what players are worth. Still it’ll be very impressive if they win the league having lost Ronaldo and Tevez, but I can’t see it happening.
What do you disagree with before gambon? You reckon it makes any sense whatsoever to include a transfer deal that happened since they won anything in their period of domination? Not to mention how important Ronaldo was to their period of domination, if it had happened before they might not have had their period of domination.
July 14, 2009 at 13:09
I dunno Franchise, that’s what he was trying to do, and that’s what the board said he was doing….
Obviously with factual current things he couldn’t just lie, but with any estimations and projections he’d obviously state the worst case scenario.
July 14, 2009 at 13:10
We can spend money! We have so much dead weight in our squad that could be used to generate cash!
Adebayor – £25m, Obviously to City
Senderos – £5m, dont need 5 CB’s.
Diaby – £5m, Not Needed, no better than DenilSong at DM and not as good as the others in AM.
You can also sell Toure (£8m) if we get a new CB in and Traore for £6m as we have Gibbs, Clichy and even Silvestre (who could also be sold) in defence and Rosicky, Nasri and Vela in midfield.
Thats a fair bit of money that is more than capable of solving all of our problems!
July 14, 2009 at 13:10
Don’t forget all the money Spurs have spent. Man Utd have done well because they have a good manager. Chelsea had money, but Ranieri/Grant/Scolari didn’t have the managerial qualities that Mourinho/Hiddink had.
Money does help, but it’s no guarantee.
I feel good inside when I consider what Arsenal have achieved with their budget – the beauty of a clean conscience. Even better if Daily Mail is right that Citeh have accepted 25 million, which is a huge coup considering we paid 7-odd for him.
July 14, 2009 at 13:11
taig the £25mil from ade will solve our problems by itself!
July 14, 2009 at 13:11
Franchise
the end result in what your telling us is…you prefer Our Beloved Arsenal.dangle along the same route as chelski..well ill prefer us being a *CLUB*not a one man show…
we agree then Faceman mate…and to be even more on the sunnyside…we have the best squad of the big four..manu aging..chelski mancity no heart..if Terry wants out..well..l’pool not to bad…
July 14, 2009 at 13:13
agreed Taig good point mate…but there is difficult to offload thoose players…not too much money around..
tom
July 14, 2009 at 13:13
apparently spurs are after flamini for 7.5m!!
cunts
July 14, 2009 at 13:13
i know A if the board were that fucked then they would have accepted it.
July 14, 2009 at 13:14
Yeah exactly Franchise, if things were as bleak as Usmanov’s dossier made out we’d have had no choice.
July 14, 2009 at 13:16
Tomstoned – I think for those prices we could attract attention. Its just a case of if we want to or not. Traore should be an easy and and Diaby. Senderos would be slightly more tricky because he suffers from being complete dog shit 99.99999999% of the time!
July 14, 2009 at 13:16
I am so behind now that I have to work again, taig, i get your point RE Hazard and my question earlier, my point is just I don’t want a new 18 year old as a 1st team starter, would like to have a RW though, but Robin plays there for Holland, and does extremely well.
July 14, 2009 at 13:17
Hey Guys
Tony why do you want to sell nasri and vela
Nasri had a good first season and is likely to improve and vela has massive potential
July 14, 2009 at 13:17
So Ade and Senderos should generate £30m. surely wenger is within his rights to spend every penny of this?
We should really be looking at 2 players in. Definitely a DM and possibly either a CB or a winger.
as said above, there are also a number of other fringe players that wont make it at Arsenal. I think our squad is too big. I would sell 3 of them and buy 1 top class player with the money. we need quality not quantity right now.
July 14, 2009 at 13:17
thats not what im saying tom.
as a aporting outfit our priorities should be to win
- we havent been doing well
- mainly because our team is found wanting
- why not improve it then if u can?
- board have always said the manager can if he wants to?
- we cant keep giving excuses if we want to be at the top again
- if u ok with where we are tom good for u i bet u can see that i’m not
i dont care what the average age of our midfield is, if there is room for improvement imorove it
July 14, 2009 at 13:18
Of course Usmanov’s view would be that we’re fucked and its preety much bollocks. But at the same time our club is i trouble and in all honesty heads really should be rolling about how we have managed to tie our own hands when it comes to funds being available for the single most important factor of the business – the team!! The board seem to have really made some bad business decisions in regards to The Emirates and the financial implications of it. Even Gazidis has said our sponshorship deals were fucking terrible!
July 14, 2009 at 13:20
Duke – If RvP can pull it off then by all means lets get it going! I understand what your saying about another young kid and I agree but if the hype is true (I havent seen him play myself) then he could be worth a punt considering his price tag seems to be fairly small.
July 14, 2009 at 13:20
u guys are funny writing off ur competition b4 a ball has been kicked. that sort of attitude gets u no where. if the players approach the season with manu ageing, chelsea no terry mentality then we are fucked
July 14, 2009 at 13:21
Spuds are alwasys after everyone because the editors of the mail/standard/ssn are all spuds making up shite
July 14, 2009 at 13:22
Gazzap – our squad is definitely not too big!! I dont want to sell anyone really but needs must. I would prefer to sell these players and bring in more quality but we cant shrink the squad too much as we have had our fair share of injuries over the years and with players like Rosicky, Eduardo and RvP in the team more injuries are always possible!
July 14, 2009 at 13:23
That Robert Peston is just scare mongering, regardless of whether he is an arsenal fan or not. Red & White by their own admission do have access to all the financial documents & details that the board have so you need to give more credence to the Rothschild report.
If Usmanov is so in love with Arsenal & so keen to put money into the club why doesn’t he give Arsenal a 100 million donation with which to use on debt or transfers?? Of course he won’t do that because he wouldn’t gain anything out of it. Fiszman & Kroenke won’t put money in either, but then neither of them are pretending to want Wenger to have more spending power.
July 14, 2009 at 13:23
Faceman, Doomongers! You are kidding, Wenger is spending the money on pay rises and making up for the fact that taxes have gone up, so the players not only have massive wages, they don’t want to pay taxes on it.
That’s where all the money goes.
July 14, 2009 at 13:23
Man City have a very decent squad already
Elano, SWP, Tevez, Robinho, BArry, Cruz, Bellamy, Petrov, Zabaleta, Given etc
hmmmmmmm
July 14, 2009 at 13:25
“u guys are funny writing off ur competition b4 a ball has been kicked. that sort of attitude gets u no where”
Thats not far off some of your comments/attitude about Arsenal Fran
July 14, 2009 at 13:25
I meant to say Red & White do not have access to all the financial details.
July 14, 2009 at 13:27
GMR – Lol…that some typo in terms of impact!!
July 14, 2009 at 13:27
I think that 25M will be handy. But if we are going to buy a striker then it will need to be a proven world class one. If not then we might as well not bother. We have plenty of decent strikers who are ‘maybe men’
So the Ade money should be spent suring up the areas whhere we are weak i.e the midfield. Buy all accounts we had at least 8 million to spend anyway, so Ade’s sale should leave us with around 33 million. That’s enough to buy a couple of excellent players
July 14, 2009 at 13:28
SS cos im worried that we would be found wanting as things stand
u seem to be consolling urselves that our apparent weaknesses would be made up by manu’s ageing team, liverpool without hypia chelsea without terry etc etc
if only i were manager incharge of finance i would wreck this club financially
July 14, 2009 at 13:28
Well if Flamini does go to Spurs then he is a bigger cunt than Spurs .
July 14, 2009 at 13:29
*by all accounts
July 14, 2009 at 13:29
GMR its easy to get. As a shareholder Usmanov is entitled to it. Anythings that appear unclear he has the right to clarify
July 14, 2009 at 13:30
WENGER WONT RE-INVEST WITH PLAYERS OF ANY WORTH OR EXPERIENCE! FACT!
He’ll probably bring in Matuidi and Chamakh only. Possibly just Matuidi. The rest will go to giving the kids bumper pay deals and his own tidy little ‘making the board money’ bonus……
July 14, 2009 at 13:31
Lewdy – What do you really think?
July 14, 2009 at 13:32
TAIG. Capitalising your words does not qualify them as facts.. Why are you even bothering to try to pretend that they are?
July 14, 2009 at 13:33
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1199614/THE-INSIDER-ARSENAL-SPECIAL-Emannuel-II–Who-replace-Adebayor-Emirates-Stadium.html
July 14, 2009 at 13:33
im not a fan that goes around London screaming that we are the best club in the world cos we arent. One day at a time thats how i take it, i let my emotions row with the flow. i used to be the loudest fan around my peers but its been hard backing my shouts with our end product. Arsenal is a club i love that hasnt been doing well since 2004 that is my current take. if we can start next season on a high then i might increase my decibelage
July 14, 2009 at 13:33
Honest Bill – I’m not sure if you are being serious or not? I wasn’t trying to fool people into thinking they are facts. I was simply emphasising my own personal belief.
July 14, 2009 at 13:34
GMR,
It wasnt Red&White themselves that did the report, it was Lazard Bros.
They would basically have the same info as Rothschild, so its probably a matter of opinion.
July 14, 2009 at 13:34
Listen if all that Usmanov stuff was true, that makes him a real dopey prick for buying all those shares doesn’t it?
July 14, 2009 at 13:35
Thiose commenst about the otherss were not mine…but I do believe the others are weaker than before.
“Wreck this club financially” so that your grandchildren can watch Arsenal playing non League footie, cos we had to sell everything, players, stadium the lot, and tumbled down thru the Leagues.
Nice idea…bring your own boots when you go…. you’ll prob get a game…
July 14, 2009 at 13:36
the squad is too big – if you sell 3 fringe and buy 1 first team player then its a step forward.
there are players that cant get a game unless wenger is giving them a carling cup run out, and there are players that are just pants – diaby being one of them. Silvestre and Traore would be others. simpson and denilson are not far off either. The trouble with selling any more first team players like Toure, is that wenger would have to replace them IMO – otherwise a couple of injuries and you are down to Silvestre and Song at the back.
If we sold those three and went and bought the next Michael Essien, for arguments sake, I wouldn’t be complaining.
July 14, 2009 at 13:36
Well said Geoff.
You’re still my hero btw
July 14, 2009 at 13:36
TAIG- Its bullshit. I know.
July 14, 2009 at 13:37
Good Morning all..
Nis your submit an very interesting fact 60pts out 60 for Man U last season is exactly what won them the league. It is where we have failed over the last 2 seasons. Teams no longer fear us. Don’t get me wrong they know how good we are and that we could destroy any team in the world when allowed to play our game. But those days of teams bending over and us giving the a good rogering have long gone. They have acquired the methods that made us so feared and are readying themselves to take us out.
We have undoubted talent seeping through the squad and the signs from the camp gives me renewed optimism for next season. There is a definite vibe of desire and hunger around the Grove. What IMHO we need to do is supplement this with strength, more precision, a little more zip and clinical execution. Do we have they personnel for this? Time will tell, how much time? who knows..
The chasing pack lead by City are moving in to an position to ambush their way into the top 4. (pot of cold!) As our young team get a year older in experience a mistake, a risk must be guarded against thinking that the other teams in the competition are just going to sit idle, waiting for one of privileged four to roll over. Big business minded people investing in all areas of their respective clubs a nd or franchise and now they have greater belief that they can and will make it and belief is a big thing in sport.
Does anyone think that the players belief will be affected by the possible departure of Ade? And if this were to happen the likely-hood that there will be no replacement?
Connected with this theory was the echo of our CEO’s statement last week by Sir Alex yesterday, regarding operating in a inflated transfer market and the merits of debt. This of course is part of wider issues that will no doubt be played out one way or another over the coming months.
What is important for the club to know is there are a growing number of supporters and shareholders who are getting restless, (sharping knifes) and will demand answers and much more accountability from within the clubs current boardroom. (belittle us no-longer is a ever common cry).
What happens in this window and ultimately the results of the first 6 to 9 games will be crucial to the shape, form and direction the battles, that are about to ensue off the field. The possible adverse impacts can not be underestimated as it could effect the current position and status our beloved club hold within world football.
July 14, 2009 at 13:37
TAIG. I realise what you were doing. But why do you believe that?
It just irks me the way people keep making positive assertions based on wild conjecture, although i do appreciate that you were using a rhetorical technique, i just can’t understand why you think that will happen
July 14, 2009 at 13:39
Thanks Sharkey but they don’t care about wrecking this club financially, they keep giving themselves huge pay rises. When the whole world is having cuts.
July 14, 2009 at 13:42
Honest Bill – Is bringing in young, relatively untested kids going against the Wenger mould? Its what he does. Buys low, sells high, the board love him, we get to watch kids again. Its the same pattern that has seen no trophies arrive at The Emirates for over 4 years, Arshavin being the exception. Can I see Wenger spending over £20m on Melo? No way! Can you? Can I see him spending about £3m on Matuidi? Hell yes I can. I can also see Wenger replacing Adebayor with Adebayor Mark II. Can I see any other experienced or established players being signed? Not really.
Sorry if I sound negative but thats what the past 4 years and project youth has done to me.
July 14, 2009 at 13:43
SS its all down to the issue of finance.
no Harmony between Usmanov, Board, Wenger, Geoff, Faceman etc
why did the board leave Wenger to be slaughtered at the Q&A if he wasnt calling the shots re signings?
July 14, 2009 at 13:44
Franchise – I’m a shareholder & that doesn’t mean Arsenal give me all their financial details. Geoff will tell you the same thing.
Gambon – Lazard Bros did not have access to the same info as Rothschild. Why do you think Red & White came out with the statement “Based on financial information that only they have”. All Usmanov can do is give Lazard Bros the information he has which is all any shareholder can do.
July 14, 2009 at 13:46
Guys – I fear the finainces are being over analysed! The board want money! Simple. Wenger makes them money and they love him for it! They dont want Usmanov involved because it will reduce their takings. Does Wenger moan about it? No, because he’s getting a huge wage and some nice little bonuses. Our club is rotten at the core and its slowly spreading outwards! It took it most serious turn for the worse the day the board forced out Lady Nina!
July 14, 2009 at 13:47
GMR u dont own 1/4 of the club
but i bet if u wanted to know more, by law u can get clarification on anything u are unclear of.
July 14, 2009 at 13:49
TAIG. no i don’t think Wenger will go and spend 20+ on anybody. But he has shown that he is willing to spend arond 15M for someone who is quality. He has also shown that he is quite astute at getting decent players for that amount.
It is not a huge leap to suggest that we might get two quality players in. DM is the position which everyone including Wenger can see needs strengthening. So we will likely see a decent one come in.
That will leave us with at least another 15M for soemone of quality to come in. I don’t mind the negativity as long as it’s reasonable. In fact your last post seems very realistic.
Also you can’t say that Matuidi will not be a great signing, any more than i can say he will. However i think that with Wenger’s history of buying players, it’s reasonable to suggest that if we do buy someone, that he has something about his game
July 14, 2009 at 13:49
u have a financial intereste in Arsenal GMR and u can ask them for example what the break down of our wage structure is playing and non playing staff.
all the undisclosed deals u can find out what they exactly were
Q: comon what is accontancy without transparency???? A: Accountancy
July 14, 2009 at 13:50
Ae we linked with huntelaar??? If we must believe our dutch sites, adebayor is sold for 30 million euro and huntelaar comes for 20. We have money to buy matudi.
July 14, 2009 at 13:52
Have we turned into a club that can only sell to buy?
i doubt it but the happenings of recent years doesnt discount this completely
July 14, 2009 at 13:53
Honest Bill – I really hope he does bring in a ‘quality’ DM and by quality I mean a Cana, Inler, Veloso and then Matuidi as well. People seem to think Matuidi will be very good and I dont doubt that. We also need another CB and a RW.
I just refuse to get my hopes up because too many times have been waiting for that all important final piece of the jigsaw to be brought in only to find that it never transpires. If it does this time I will be over the moon and have some renewed optimism for the forthcoming campaign….but not until that day!
July 14, 2009 at 13:54
Franchise “sir alex” is a manc cunt. Don’t care about his pedigree. As long as he’s a manc he’s a cunt. a drunken cunt at that. I know you always big up the mancs but sir alex?
July 14, 2009 at 13:54
When I say we need another CB I mean we should sort the wheat from the chaff, get rid of Senderos, Silvestre and possibly Toure and bring in someone like Hangeland.
July 14, 2009 at 13:57
GM im not very good with rival hate. im a moral fan. shame on me
i hate bentley and jenas though
July 14, 2009 at 13:57
When we have a squad as big as we do Franchise its wise to sell when we buy. Defence was an exception as we were short there.
July 14, 2009 at 13:57
for CB, Richards as cover, Bassong, http://community.footballpools.com/blog/2009/07/13/neven-subotic-sensational-6-ft-4-serb-defender/
that guy, and Hangeland.
July 14, 2009 at 14:01
so are spurs after vieira and flamini? ffs..
July 14, 2009 at 14:02
Other than Ribery, who out there would Wenger realistically shell out 20MM+ pounds for today? If he picks up Chamakh, fine, I trust Arsene. But I’d be fine waiting to apply these funds, should they in fact arrive via the Ade sale, to one of the world’s top 10-15 strikers. Even without the sale, Arsenal’s operating income certainly allows a lot more space for the servicing of interest expense associated with incremental debt. So if we fail to fill the goal void this year by Ade not being around, then we’d have to make the big splash. IMO.
July 14, 2009 at 14:02
big squad lol
we are selling a player that is potentially our 3rd most priced asset to fund a move for matuidi
i hope not.
we should start by selling the excesses starting from the defence or doesnt any1 want Phillipe?
July 14, 2009 at 14:03
Bob!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzf0OGatD5A&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Frayfoleyshow%2Eblogspot%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded
Afternoon yall.
July 14, 2009 at 14:03
Philippe, start with silvestre
July 14, 2009 at 14:04
i wld rather we sign chamakh than zilch
July 14, 2009 at 14:05
TAIG. That’s a fair enough assessment. But in fairness Wenger has stated that if he had money to spend, then he would spend it. I know many don’t believe that he was skint, but now he won’t be able to claim it if Ade’s sale goes through.
I’m hoping that Wenger will be forced in to spending. He knows the fans are all clamouring for him to spend. He also knows the fans will accept two quality 15M players. I’m hoping that he will make a compromise and do exactly that.
Also, I still think Toure is a useful defender. I wouldn’t want us to sell him without first having a proven replacement
July 14, 2009 at 14:05
hahaha. EEEDDD!
July 14, 2009 at 14:05
Putting Ade to one side I think the first players to be sold should be Senderos, Traore and Diaby. These 3 players represent the best deal when you weigh up the money you can get against the peformances you will miss in the first team.
July 14, 2009 at 14:05
YO CHAMAKH AINT COMING! Arsense is going to wait till January and sign the #1 russian striker Pogrebynk on a free transfer.
July 14, 2009 at 14:06
Sell Silvestre before Diaby Tony. Come on. Diaby might be a decent backup but Silvestre has no place
July 14, 2009 at 14:08
luke, how much cash do you think you could generate by selling Silvestre?
July 14, 2009 at 14:08
we need a summer striker signing we could sell nikki b in jan and also sign pogbreynak
July 14, 2009 at 14:09
2 million
July 14, 2009 at 14:09
Honest Bill – I made exactly the same comment about Wenger not being able to complain about money if we sell Adebayor.
Also – I agree that the only reason to sell Toure would be to invest in a better replacement. Like I said, I’d sell Toure to get Hangeland especially if City were still interested in him.
July 14, 2009 at 14:09
heard bordeaux might pay 3. We should not sell Nikki!!
July 14, 2009 at 14:09
Its not like we spend nothing. We spend 10m on Vermaelen, 17m on Arshavin, 12 on Nasri. We just dont spend big is all. Its annoying, sure, but we just ave to accept it.
But what i dont get is why we would be willing to “splash” 10m or whatever on Chamakh and Wenger is reluctant to spend 17m on a world class player like arshavin. Its basically saying the likes of Arshavin arsnt even twice as good as the likes of Chamakh.
July 14, 2009 at 14:09
Silvestre has no worth, let alone no place. You could get a mil for him maybe.
July 14, 2009 at 14:10
HBill we could get 5 poppadums for silvestre
July 14, 2009 at 14:10
Stu – He does work in mysterious ways, that much is true!
July 14, 2009 at 14:11
Chamakh will come, and he is good player. People say he is not good bacause the youtube movies. But he is good!!
July 14, 2009 at 14:11
any interested teams could add mango chutney to sweeten the deal
July 14, 2009 at 14:11
i’m terrifed he will fail his medical… are we destined to keep the fucking cunt?
July 14, 2009 at 14:12
TAIG, yes i’d ho along with that. But only if we had Hangeland in (or any other quality CB)
But by all accounts, we don’t need to sell Toure if the Ade deal goes through that gives us around 30M to spend. We could get a quality DM for that, plus hangeland (Don’t know how much he’s valued at)
July 14, 2009 at 14:14
What we need is players that stand the best chance of performing in this very next season! For DM we should sign Matuidi if he is so cheap but is apparently going to be good but we need to sign a Cana, Melo or Inler or even Veloso to fit straight in the team and to set Cesc free. There cant be any slow transistion period especially with the start that we have to the season! A RW is also needed and we should bring in another quality CB even if we have to sell Toure to do it.
July 14, 2009 at 14:15
Honest – I think £12m would get him.
July 14, 2009 at 14:16
Anything for Silvestre wold be welcome imo. He is a nothing player. He offers nothing. Experience you might say? Bullshit, when you are a shit player experience counts for absolutely nothing.
Players we should sell in order: Silvestre, Ade(probably gone), Diaby, Senderos Eboue. Other than those we is aight.
July 14, 2009 at 14:18
Whats the point of buying another left sided defender (hangeland). We did just buy Vermaelen for 10m, i hope he doesnt sit on the bench. Thats an expensive bench warmer for us.
July 14, 2009 at 14:19
TAIG, even if we bought Matuidi and a decent winger, we could afford a center back. I can’t see Wenger buying two players for the DM position
July 14, 2009 at 14:19
Way off the topic here but a friend of mine who is ‘in the know’ has just given me 2 bits of information, one a little more funny than the other:
1)He was out at the Oasis after party and then the after party after that and said Freddie Flintoff was there completely fucked off his tits….pissed as anything and when straight from there to the England nets session!
2)He says that Danielle Lloyd has aids! Not pig aids! The real aids! And she caught it from a boyfriend before she went out with Defoe or O’Hara!!
Thats the end of my gossip for today!
July 14, 2009 at 14:20
okay, Im thinking Arsene will try for Hangeland but he lacks pace and our line gets high up the pitch. Theres bassong, some 6ft4 monster in the bundesliga, who else eh?
July 14, 2009 at 14:20
I’ve got to say last season i didnt really want Inler..but we are getting to the point where i want anyone and im warn=ming to Inler. Tall-ish, aggressive (probably too much judging by some of his “tackles”), and a good age so he can grow up with the team.
But i suppose Matuidi will do.
July 14, 2009 at 14:22
If he buys a CDM, I think it’ll go like this.
1st choice-Melo
2nd-Matuidi
3rd-Inler
4th-Cana
July 14, 2009 at 14:22
Juhasz, Chyrhynskiy(or something), McManus
, Metzelder, Sakho and…..Alex?
July 14, 2009 at 14:23
the thing that is a bit difficult about Wengers transfer policy for me, is that when we sign proven players, we replace them with unproven players (Arsh apart), kinda general i know, but sometimes, with our success over the last 10 years, it would be nice to feel like we were growing, rather than struggling to maintain our position.
July 14, 2009 at 14:23
I dont think Cana is/was ever a possibility. Probably just the usual paper talk. At least we know he went after Inler last summer so thats not just a runour, same with Melo.
July 14, 2009 at 14:24
Sakho! That’d be cool. Same with Juhasz.
July 14, 2009 at 14:25
so it looks like Ade’s fee is agreed and their talking personal terms now…
July 14, 2009 at 14:25
Yes Freduardo. I often feel the same. Progress is the goal we should be aiming for but when we have a decent season we seem to either go backwards by letting good players go or actually go backwards and struggle to keep up with the front runners.
Its very frustrating.
July 14, 2009 at 14:25
Stu – Cana does seem to have been an obvious choice for the rumours although in all honesty the tabloids have steered well clear of any Cana links with us!
July 14, 2009 at 14:27
TAIG. yeah it’s worrying that the Matuidi talk has gone a bit quiet too don’t you think?
July 14, 2009 at 14:27
Would it do any harm for Wenger to come out after the Ade sale has been completed and state that he will re-invest the money into the team?? I would say it wouldn’t but in now way do I expect that to happen!!
July 14, 2009 at 14:28
Yeah TAIG, its more fans rumours that media runnign with it.
We were actually linked with him a few seasons ago but it didnt materialise for whatever reason. Cant remember where i say it but i do know someone posted a link on here from years ago.
Wenger had his eye on him once (workpermit fucing it up), so AW does know about him. Whether he thinks he is still good enough or not remains the question.
July 14, 2009 at 14:28
Honest Bill – Same old, same old………
July 14, 2009 at 14:29
Luke,
Pogrebnyak is free in November, not Jan.
And either way, not good enough for us.
July 14, 2009 at 14:30
What a fucking wierdo…some people (americans) are just odd. No offence to normal americans tho.
July 14, 2009 at 14:30
pogrebnyak? Where’d that come from..
Has someone being playing too much pro evolution soccer?
July 14, 2009 at 14:31
Hazard and Berg with the readies IF Adebayor goes anyone?
July 14, 2009 at 14:31
Stu – Yeah he wasn’t allowed over for trials because of his work permit issues. I guess the authorities saw trials as a type of or link to work and didn’t allow it to happen. It does suggest Wenger knows about him though which kinda keeps us guessing. And Cana did say that he will know his future soon? His price tag seems to be dropping too and for anything under £10m I’d definitely take a risk on him. We just need a no nonsense destructive player that breaks up the oppo’s play and has a good positional awareness! These the 2 key factors that Denilson and Song dont possess!
July 14, 2009 at 14:32
Hazard, Berg & Matuidi in for the adebayor money, we’d be sorted, no?
July 14, 2009 at 14:32
Tony. It would do harm because he’d argue that if he said that, he wouldn’t be able to bargain as well. He’s the best russian striker gambon…i think he’d fit in great with Arshavin having played on the national side. He is clinical, he has height. Sounds about right to me.
July 14, 2009 at 14:33
ReVELAtion. I think we need to concentrate on central MF before anything else
July 14, 2009 at 14:33
Actually franchise with me it’s more than just “rival hate” I can’t stand the man. He’s a nasty piece of work.
Sorry about the big gaps between comments, I’m working
July 14, 2009 at 14:34
Luke – Nah, no way do other managers take that talk seriously! Benitez not budging on Alonso’s asking price is the perfect example! Wenger played the skint card, Benitez called his bluff and was provenm right when all of a sudden we had £17m to spend on Arshavin. And we nearly fucked that signing up too by using the same ’skint’ tactics!
July 14, 2009 at 14:35
Gambon, you take that back. Pogrebnyak is brilliant!
July 14, 2009 at 14:35
good point mate
July 14, 2009 at 14:36
Im with Stu. Pogrebnyak is a scary motherfucker.
July 14, 2009 at 14:36
Onyabakubitch is better than Pogrebnyak!!
July 14, 2009 at 14:36
Give my name a click for a clip on the POG.
July 14, 2009 at 14:37
TAIG. It’s not necessarily a skint tactic. It lets teams know that we are not desperate and will not budge on our assessments of players. Of course this depends on teams actually wanting to make the sale, which had Rafa landed Barry, he might have done
July 14, 2009 at 14:38
TAIG, thats not even a real player is it? Or is it ufaknglyr’s cousin?
July 14, 2009 at 14:38
Pogrebnyak is mates with Arshavin, and I remember Arshavin praising him not to long ago.
July 14, 2009 at 14:39
So who else is excited to hear how announcers say Zhirkov’s name during chelsea games. I AM I AM I AM!!!
July 14, 2009 at 14:39
Honest – Yeah thats fair but we do try it on a bit too much sometimes. I mean we signed Arshavin after the deadline because we were refusing to budge and lets be honest if we sold him now we’d be making a profit because he’s obviously such a talent!!
July 14, 2009 at 14:40
The deals I would go for:
£16-20m plus Micah Richards
or
Straight swap for Robinho
or
£25m cash straight-up.
So supposing we had £13m at the start of the season. £10m spent on the Vermeister which then leaves £3m left. Add that to the potential £25m coming in for Adebyewhore and we have £28m to spend.
In’s:
Matuidi for £5m or Cana for £6.5m
Hazard for £7m
Serdar Tasci for £7m (if Senderos goes)
Pogrebnyak for Free
So thats a minimum £12/13.5m spent and max £19/20.5m spent.
Or we could just spend most of it on Aguero as one blog has reported. Apparantley Boro Primorac has flown in to Madrid to open talks??
July 14, 2009 at 14:40
Stu – He’s real and his agent is Mr.Oodyanikabolokov!!
July 14, 2009 at 14:42
Wenger is a man of double standards.
He wont spend more on a player then he thinks he is worth. 15m or so in Arshavins case. Yet when someone comes knocking for one of his players…BANG! He slaps a 30m pricetag on adebayors head…there is enough fucking space after all.
July 14, 2009 at 14:42
I’ll eat my shoe if Aguero comes.
July 14, 2009 at 14:42
hahaha aguero. hahahaha
July 14, 2009 at 14:43
Now you’ve lost me taig, i dont get that one.
July 14, 2009 at 14:44
THe agent says a big club in Europe and its not Chelsea. Im thinking Man city…anyone? anyone? hahahahah really though. its man utd. Definately man utd
July 14, 2009 at 14:44
Arse&Nose – I’ll eat your shoe after you shit it out if Aguero comes in!!
July 14, 2009 at 14:44
The russian with 3 bollocks??
July 14, 2009 at 14:44
Im talkin bout aguero there ofcourse
July 14, 2009 at 14:47
Fergie says he has finished with his transfer dealings. My guess is Chelsea as they were after Tevez, and Aguero fits the mould.
TIAG, I’ve never shat in a shoe before but if he comes to Arsenal, I’ll do it with pleasure!
July 14, 2009 at 14:48
“a big club i europe and its NOT chelsea”. Fergie is just saying that to get a price reduction. If its not him, then maybe the liverpool.
July 14, 2009 at 14:49
Liverpool would make sense, but they are skint unless they manage to get 30m for Alonso.
July 14, 2009 at 14:50
Never in a million years will it be Aguero.
July 14, 2009 at 14:51
Inter?
July 14, 2009 at 14:51
Mourinho said he was a bit disappointed with his squad 2 days ago
July 14, 2009 at 14:52
We could bid for de rossi or toulalan with the money we get from ade’s sale
July 14, 2009 at 14:52
Im thinkin man shitty will abandon its 1-1-8 formation and move to an even more revolutionary 1-9 formation and sign aguero
July 14, 2009 at 14:53
Arsene wouldnt buy toulalan. hed cost 20 million and i think he wants to stay in france because of the world cup
July 14, 2009 at 14:54
is melo a done deal at juve?
July 14, 2009 at 14:54
I like the idea of signing no one til Xmas then bringing in THE POG.
Just Matuidi will do, although i get the feeling no one will come in until the Ade situ is decided. Arsene will wait.
July 14, 2009 at 14:56
Hughes wants to wrap things up today because man shitty are leaving tomorrow for south africa tour. He wants ade with them. The POG! Great nickname. Cant wait, i really think wenger will go for him. Matuidi will come in too. Maybe another CB as silvestre cant be staying and big phil…
July 14, 2009 at 14:56
wow its official
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/arsenal-accept-undisclosed-bid-for-emmanuel-adebayor-from-manchester-city
July 14, 2009 at 14:57
If we sign Aguero I will share that shit-shoe.
July 14, 2009 at 14:58
25 million is def a good deal if it happens.I am sure the rumours about his wages are true.No way he will get more than robinho
July 14, 2009 at 14:59
Good one fran. Got my hopes up
July 14, 2009 at 15:00
Chipo, no need to share I have two shoes-i’ll shit in both.
July 14, 2009 at 15:00
if he does, count on some dressing room fun. “I can only afford three houses mark! Adecantscore has four!!!!”
July 14, 2009 at 15:00
Gambon out of interest what do you know about Pogrebnyak?
July 14, 2009 at 15:01
Ideally we would sell Silvestre and maybe Senderos and get in 1 quality defender to cover Gallas leaving next summer.That defender might be vermaelen but who knows?
And in midfield sell Diaby because i just dont think he is good enough for a club like arsenal. Uefa cup team is the best he could wish for imo.
So sell Diaby, and if Eboue is considered a midfielder (which he is) then sell him too. We have enough bodies in there and with Song now a defender we are short a DM. Get in a top class DM and a utility player who can play anywhere in midfield or fullback. Sorted.
And up front. We are already stacked in that department, so if/when Ade goes we should be fine and use that money to address the above. Simples.
July 14, 2009 at 15:01
People should know better than to click on Franchises links!!!!!
I did have a sneaky look just to make sure though!
July 14, 2009 at 15:01
RE: Pogrebnyak
He has had a really bad dip in form when he got injured before the Euro.
He played really well in Zenit’s UEFA Cup and League winning season. But dropped a lot last season, and now hasn’t scored for over 5 games in the Russian League.
Zenit fans are not too upset about him leaving.
Even though Zenit won the league, he only scored 12 goals in 30 matches in the Russian league.
For free he is a good gamble, but I think much too slow for the EPL.
July 14, 2009 at 15:01
if we sign aguerro i would wear that shit shoe
July 14, 2009 at 15:02
Fran, im not even going to bother clicking on that spoof. You fucking tease!
July 14, 2009 at 15:03
Yeah Duke. I’d agree with that, I wouldnt want him if he cost us but since he is free i would defo take a risk.
July 14, 2009 at 15:03
Recruit players who want to play for us… and none of these African / Latin American players who are the high maintainance types who will demand that we break our wage structure to keep them at the club.. they only respect their wallets and not the club we love!
Huntelaar, Berg, Hazard, Matuidi, Tasci, Juhasz or Pogrebnyak would be pencilled down on my list of morally good players who would be proud to wear the Arsenal shirt… and at least 2 of these players must be on Wenger’s radar!
July 14, 2009 at 15:04
Cant see that happening stu.Will have to beat silvestre for 1 more season.
July 14, 2009 at 15:04
14.03 Roma forward Mirko Vucinic says he would not consider a move to Tottenham Hotspur if he was to leave the club.
Course he bloody wouldn’t!
He’s one i wouldn’t mind. Very good player.
July 14, 2009 at 15:04
Fran, that’s cheating the other guys were going to eat my shit shoe.
July 14, 2009 at 15:04
Off topic I know, but its a cracker:
“Jamie – I fail to understand your comments. As a realistic Tottenham fan, I am able to comment on the fact that an aging Vierra dsicarded by our greatest rivals as his ability declined, is hardly a positive signing. Maybe you are happy to finish in 8th place with Harry, I for one am not & only wish the board had supported Jol & continued his tremendous work, finishing 5th two seasons running, knocking on the door of Champions League qualification for the first time in our history. Its time you got a life & stop falling for the same old we are going to finish top 4 & above Arsenal. Do you seriously think we have any chance of finishing above Man U, Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea or Arsenal? Indeed 6th place is the best we can hope for. Wake up & smell the reality, rather than criticizing fellow Tottenham fans. No wonder Arsenal fans continue to laugh at us?
- Rob Hotspurs, South London”
And laugh we do Rob !!!
July 14, 2009 at 15:05
Just released:
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/franchise-is-full-of-shit/
July 14, 2009 at 15:06
Vucinic is class, a front 3 of him, RVP and Arshavin would make me happy.
July 14, 2009 at 15:06
imagine taking off ur shoes to shit. presenting the shoe pants
not a spoof
http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/shoes_pants.jpg
but this is
http://arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-desperate-to-resign-jeffers
July 14, 2009 at 15:07
WOW! Never thought a spud fan would seem so intelligent.
Thats a great responce to an undoubtedly thick spud.
July 14, 2009 at 15:08
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/stu-fell-for-my-crap-and-ate-it-off-the-floor-but-denied-he-didnt
July 14, 2009 at 15:08
The boys at ACLF dont think much of you lot. They are completey dillusioned
July 14, 2009 at 15:08
arsenesabemejor,
I know everything about Pog!! Literally everything.
July 14, 2009 at 15:08
They arent shoe pants..they are pant shoes! Duh!
July 14, 2009 at 15:10
EricDeGoner they aint worth the time or space just a bunch of deluded loonies
July 14, 2009 at 15:11
I do think they are actually mad. They refuse to see whats right in front of there face, its crazy
July 14, 2009 at 15:11
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/arsenal-fan-facts/franchise-is-a-gowl-who-is-also-secretly-a-manc
July 14, 2009 at 15:11
Eric, they are our feeder blog… I bet the Beveren players slag off the Arsenal team… similar sort of thing.
July 14, 2009 at 15:11
SS is browsing through spud web sites ur new hobby?
who remembers spudd webb? the shortest guy to win slam dunk contest in the NBA
July 14, 2009 at 15:12
Eric, are you an aclf spy here to fool us into a false sense of security by befriending us and then breaking our hearts by revealing its all a joke?
I dont go on aclf anyway…they are a bunch of meanies who tell people that diagree with them to fuck off.
July 14, 2009 at 15:12
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/arsenal-fan-facts/franchise-defends-himself-saying-its-better-to-be-a-manc-than-eat-shit
July 14, 2009 at 15:12
what is aclf?
July 14, 2009 at 15:14
a congrigation of losers – forum.
July 14, 2009 at 15:16
Stu, When they are losing an argument they start saying the person doesn;t support Arsenal, they are bonkers on there, its weird
July 14, 2009 at 15:17
Arsene Can Live Forever?
July 14, 2009 at 15:17
Guys. We don’t need another striker if Barndoor leaves. Arshavin should be played as a second striker. He and Eddie or RVP. We need a proper winger or another attacking midfielder. Menze, Di Maria, Pandev, Turan, to name a few.
July 14, 2009 at 15:17
GOD DAMNET. Im becoming a bit impatient. whats going on w/ ade, whats goin on w/ matuidi.
July 14, 2009 at 15:18
Maciek-Hazard!
July 14, 2009 at 15:19
Guys, lets not talk about the militants over the road. I think they do enough to embarrass themselves without us highlighting it.
July 14, 2009 at 15:19
luke, he’s gone, not officially yet but he’s definitely gone
July 14, 2009 at 15:19
ACLF = another blog
July 14, 2009 at 15:20
where eric? how? why? who? please no.
July 14, 2009 at 15:20
Pedro you are in London aren’t you?
What do we think about setting up a Le Grove 5-a-side team?
July 14, 2009 at 15:21
Maciek whats up? i think we need a striker if Ade leaves. Arshavin can play SS but that dont mean u count him as a forward. IMO there are too many IFS re our other forwards
July 14, 2009 at 15:21
if u setting up a 5 a side team i would be the manager
July 14, 2009 at 15:22
Sounds like a good idea Chipo! I work outside london, so it’d be tough for me to get there.
July 14, 2009 at 15:22
can i be the agent?
July 14, 2009 at 15:22
We should just sell everyone except arshavin. Play him and Vucinic up front? Sorted!
July 14, 2009 at 15:22
Luke, well they’ve had time to rebuke it hasn’t he? I think after last summer Ades Arsenal career was over. He was never going to be the legend we hoped after that. I also couldnt help but feel he didnt seem up for it last year. Am well gutted but if he wants to go, good riddance
July 14, 2009 at 15:23
afternoon stu.. where did vucinic come from?
July 14, 2009 at 15:23
Choy… if you can sell me for £25mill and get me £170k a week… the job is yours!
July 14, 2009 at 15:23
Im talking about Hazard…not Ade. Ade is def gone
July 14, 2009 at 15:23
Sorry Eric… Welcome to Le Grove.
July 14, 2009 at 15:24
Stu/Guys imagine trying to bed a girl for the first time and she is wearing shoe pants and she is in to give u a hard time.
fuck
http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/shoes_pants.jpg
July 14, 2009 at 15:24
Fran, how did you find those?
July 14, 2009 at 15:25
ohh boy thatd be a drag
July 14, 2009 at 15:25
I am on the phone pedro!!!
July 14, 2009 at 15:25
I think Vucinic is Montenegoranian?
July 14, 2009 at 15:25
Luke, according to aclf he might stay, there mental
July 14, 2009 at 15:26
Gotta get me a pair of those shoe pants!!
July 14, 2009 at 15:27
Fran, i’d use my trusty swiss army knife and but the laces….It would ruin the pant shoes but so what…needs must.
July 14, 2009 at 15:28
We should get hazard though asap before madrid does
July 14, 2009 at 15:28
Right chaps… I’m hitting the road!
Play nice!
July 14, 2009 at 15:29
Guardian: Adebayor in Manchester
This could easily slip under the radar with all the Tévez stuff but according to guardian.co.uk we are very close to signing our third forward of the summer: Arsenal’s Emmanuel Adebayor:
Manchester City are on the verge of completing a deal to sign Emmanuel Adebayor from Arsenal, the Guardian understands. The two clubs have agreed a fee, believed to be closer to Arsenal’s asking price of £25m than City’s original offer of £20m, and the striker is in Manchester discussing terms on a five-year contract worth between £150,000-170,000 a week.
This could well be done in the very near future, even in time for the Vodacom Challenge.
HURRY THE FUCK UP AND ANNOUNCE IT!
July 14, 2009 at 15:30
According to the guardian Ade is in Manchester discussing terms, surely he couldn’t turn down that much money?!
July 14, 2009 at 15:30
Beat me to it gp
July 14, 2009 at 15:30
HURRY THE FUCK UPPPPP FASTER ARSENE SELL SELL SELL SELL! GO!
July 14, 2009 at 15:30
July 14, 2009 at 15:31
The City money will be cash as well… excellent!
July 14, 2009 at 15:31
This will be the making of Bendtner.
July 14, 2009 at 15:33
Abdul, 2 questions for you since you posted that.
When is the new PES out and is it coming out for the ps2 (because im not wasting 500 eiro or whatever it is on a shitty ps3).
July 14, 2009 at 15:34
pedro the history behind ths shoe pants
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Arse&Nose Says:
July 14, 2009 at 14:42
I’ll eat my shoe if Aguero comes.
tonyadamsisgod Says:
July 14, 2009 at 14:44
Arse&Nose – I’ll eat your shoe after you shit it out if Aguero comes in!!
Arse&Nose Says:
July 14, 2009 at 14:47
Fergie says he has finished with his transfer dealings. My guess is Chelsea as they were after Tevez, and Aguero fits the mould.
TIAG, I’ve never shat in a shoe before but if he comes to Arsenal, I’ll do it with pleasure!
Chipo Says:
July 14, 2009 at 14:57
If we sign Aguero I will share that shit-shoe.
Arse&Nose Says:
July 14, 2009 at 15:00
Chipo, no need to share I have two shoes-i’ll shit in both.
Franchise Says:
July 14, 2009 at 15:01
if we sign aguerro i would wear that shit shoe
Arse&Nose Says:
July 14, 2009 at 15:04
Fran, that’s cheating the other guys were going to eat my shit shoe.
THEN IT GOT ME THINKING ‘IMAGINE TAKING OFF YOUR SHOES TO SHIT’ SO I GOOGLED SHIT SHOE AND CAME UP WITH SHOES PANTS
STRANGE HEY
Franchise Says:
July 14, 2009 at 15:06
imagine taking off ur shoes to shit. presenting the shoe pants
not a spoof
http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/shoes_pants.jpg
but this is
http://arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-desperate-to-resign-jeffers
July 14, 2009 at 15:35
Stu,late October I think but it’s not yet confirmed.PES 2010?For PS2?Of course!
July 14, 2009 at 15:37
What’s the bet Sparky pours cold water over the whole Ade thing..
July 14, 2009 at 15:37
Hello Franchise. I’m ok. Luke- I have heard many great things about Hazard but he is another kid with potential. We have enough of them.
July 14, 2009 at 15:38
Lol @Fran that’s hilarious!
July 14, 2009 at 15:38
What the fuck! How long has Tevez been in england and he still cant speak the language! You’d swear he thinks he is Pires.
July 14, 2009 at 15:39
I really hope not Paulinho!
July 14, 2009 at 15:40
So thats a yes on the ps2? Good times…i havent played the last one in fucking ages…i broke it after about a month. Me and my temper..
July 14, 2009 at 15:40
Out: Adebayor 25m
Sylvestre nom./Senderos 5m
+ Loans
In: Berg 10m
Hazard 7m
Matudi 8m
Squad:
Almunia/Fabianski/Mannone
Sagna/Eboue/G.Hoyte
Gallas/Djourou/Bartley
Vermaelen/Toure/Ayling
Clichy/Gibbs/Evina
Walcott/Hazard/Rosicky
Fabregas/Denilson/Ramsey
Matuidi/Song/Thomas
Arshavin/Nasri/Merida
Van Persie/Bendtner/Simpson
Eduardo/Berg/Vela
July 14, 2009 at 15:41
By the way…do we ever have press conferences?
I know we dont do unveilings (which i hate) but do we ever have press conferences where the players answer questions? I dont remember Arshavin, Nasri or Vermaelen doing any.
July 14, 2009 at 15:42
Maciek- he’s halfway there. player of the league with lille. it may take time to settle but he’s 18. He will be up there with Ronaldo and he “dreams of playing for arsenal”
July 14, 2009 at 15:42
Berg reva?! He’s a young forward who’d come in behind VP, Eduardo, Arshavin, Bendy, Vela, and Theo in the pecking order, there’d be no point. Also Wenger has said he’d never sign more than three players in a transfer window or it’d unsettle things too much, take him out and Matuidi and Hazard (if he’s really that good) and I’d be delighted with it.
July 14, 2009 at 15:43
Rev, i would go for that but i cant invisage Wenger spending 35m in one window..regardless of how much we take in. Can you?
And i would consider Arshavin a forward as of next season.
July 14, 2009 at 15:43
The last one I remember was Francis Jeffers.
July 14, 2009 at 15:44
Fran – 15.11 No.
Its comments on the PV4 story in the Evening Standard.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/football/article-23719167-details/Harry+Redknapp+reckons+he+can+tempt+Patrick+Vieira+back+to+London/article.do
July 14, 2009 at 15:44
We had interviews with Vermaelen but no press conference, don’t think we did with Nasri or Arshavin either, though I’m sure we have before, but don’t make a habit of it.
July 14, 2009 at 15:44
I really like the look of Berg. Amazing finisher and great herderererer. He is a proper goalscorer but i suppose we have Eduardo for that.
July 14, 2009 at 15:44
Hmm I like the look of your line up Reva… Oozes class!
July 14, 2009 at 15:45
I’m watching the Tevez press conference, he must be thick, he’s be here 5 years and can’t speak a word of English.
Mark Hughes is just buying anyone he can, he no manager, any cunt can do that, the deserve Adebayor.
July 14, 2009 at 15:46
Yeah i thought not A. Shame as i think its a good way to let the fans get to know the player that much more.
Sparky only confirmed discussions. Nothing else.
July 14, 2009 at 15:46
oh i see SS i was worried
July 14, 2009 at 15:47
Hughes has just admitted he’s been talking to Arsenal re Ade, I guess it will take forever as it’s us. Ho, hum.
July 14, 2009 at 15:48
Geoff he has only been here for 3 years easy i get ur point though
July 14, 2009 at 15:48
Anyone seen this??? Not sure why as I know nothing bout this player but, I have a strange feeling that he will join and be pretty good…….I know he looks crap on youtube but I just have a gut feeling
BREAKING GOSSIP
1334 BST: Arsenal target Marouane Chamakh has revealed he would love to join them. The Bordeaux striker, who could be a replacement for Emmanuel Adebayor, said: “Arsenal would be a dream. If they were to come calling, I would certainly give them a positive answer.”
Full story: Londoneveningstandard.com
July 14, 2009 at 15:49
I’m sure Tevez has a basic grasp of the language but it’s easier to pretend he doesn’t. Words get twisted etc.
July 14, 2009 at 15:49
Geoff City apparently said if there’s any deal to be done they want it done asap rather than anything dragging on like with etoo. I’m sure we’re desperate to get it done quickly to sign a DM as well
July 14, 2009 at 15:50
wardo i really can’t see it happening, would make absolutely no sense
July 14, 2009 at 15:50
Damn it Wardo. Thats shit news! I dont want Chamakh, because he is shite and IF he was to join he would probably be off to the acn. One of the reasons i want Ade gone is because of his international commitments. fuck sake Chanakh had better fuck off!
July 14, 2009 at 15:51
Thanks Luke. Also, hello A. You see, since Dein departure we have gone backwards even if we are talking about the press conference.Sad but true. We are a joke. We are signing world’s 6th best player and still acting like a small club.
July 14, 2009 at 15:51
Remember A, if he signs its your fault!
July 14, 2009 at 15:52
yea they want Ade on a plane with the squad to south africa tomorrow.
July 14, 2009 at 15:52
Geoff Hughes and Ade go hand in hand haha. All of the players they buy are on fat contracts so they have no desire to play. If you are on say £60,000 a week yes it’s a lot but these days i think that shows that you are there for the football. If you ‘Want’ £100,000 or £150,000 a week then sorry but you are only going there for one reason and it is not ball shaped!!!
July 14, 2009 at 15:54
if you all thought ade was lazy against man u in the semi’s, bet you cant wait to see him on 150,000 a week for man shitty
July 14, 2009 at 15:56
Stu / A, it might turn out to be a good purchase….not sure why i think that cause he averages 1 goal every 4 games…..
Did you read the report??? Liverpool and Everton are trying to get Reyes back to the EPL !! He is going for £4mil atm !!! anyone know what we sold him for?
July 14, 2009 at 15:58
Nope Wardo…he is free now. He was released i think.
July 14, 2009 at 15:58
In my opinion the best PES was PES 5, 2006 was ok , but after that is been shite.
July 14, 2009 at 15:59
wardo… 8-10 ish i think mate.
July 14, 2009 at 15:59
Yeah he does wardo, something like that anyways, so less than ten league goals a season! He’s 25 too, so not a youngster with potential who’s gonna get alot better.
Yeah Stu I still promise to take full responsibility if he signs, he won’t though so i’m fine!
Hi Maciek. I dunno if we’ve gone backwards re press conferences, maybe it’s because the press are so anti-arsenal, and have twisted words and quotes and caused us so much trouble that we can’t be bothered to cater for them as much anymore. Like Fergie boycotting sky but not officially
July 14, 2009 at 16:00
What Arse&Nose?! The last PES is absolutely awesome!
July 14, 2009 at 16:00
FWardo, for four mil. I would take a risk. I still think that he can suprise a few people.If only his mental strenght was big enough.
July 14, 2009 at 16:02
Ha I wonder what Ade’s reception will be from the city fans, can’t imagine them being as they were with tevez??
Imagine if he got booed!
July 14, 2009 at 16:02
*Wardo, sorry.
July 14, 2009 at 16:04
PES overtook fifa as the game to play but i think its dropped a level since then. Cant remember which is which but there was one that didnt change at all from the previous one. It was the exact same just with different players.
And the small thing that pisses me off is the first one i got (pes 5 i think). You could press circle when choosing the kits and change the shorts or socks or shirt and mix and match between the home and away kit. Only a minor change but it pissed me right off.
July 14, 2009 at 16:04
Wardo, Re: Chamakah, those quotes attributed to him all of two months ago.. Interestingly though there are more recent quotes of him saying that the club were hasty in assuming he would not be prepared to move to Sunderland.
Mark Hughes has admitted that we are in discussions bout Ade. “the deal do be done” and that “their is no deal YET”
July 14, 2009 at 16:05
A, there were some city fans on sky yesterday saying they were delighted with him. Saying he was world class, a proven top class goalscorer etc.
I assume they are thinking of someone else.
July 14, 2009 at 16:10
Stu…its £4mil I think mate. Dont think he is free as its Athletico Mad that own him……Benfica have released him from a loan deal…..
AT…..8-10ish. Think that is quite high. He’s not done anything since he left Real M on loan.
Maciek….So would I take a risk. At £4mil he would be a good purchase……..F konws why he has not managed to do anything since leaving Real M tho
July 14, 2009 at 16:10
hey chaps…..you gotta check out this cricket games….its addictive.
Let me know you scores???
http://www.miniclip.com/games/cricket-defend-the-wicket/en/
July 14, 2009 at 16:12
Massive personal problems wardo apparently. Wish him all the best at everton if he goes there, but with vela and eduardo, we don’t need him anymore, there’s no room for him. Really liked him, thought he could have gone on to become an Arsenal great, but personal problems fucked that up.
July 14, 2009 at 16:13
do you know what sort of personal probs A ???
Also, you had a go on that cricket game??
July 14, 2009 at 16:14
wardo, yeah its pretty high but he was still considered a pretty decent play and good prospect when we sold him, especially in spain
July 14, 2009 at 16:17
Nah no idea on specifics wardo, reports were he just didn’t settle anyways, and he’s really thick! Read somewhere he couldn’t speak spanish or read or write until he was taught to in Seville’s youth team at 15/16, and just doesn’t get on with anyone anywhere, gets depressed and stuff. Can’t remember where I read it though.
I’m avoiding clicking on the cricket game because I can get addicted and really annoyed by those little games!
July 14, 2009 at 16:18
i am not worried about an city at all i like teves i realy do but for his work rate but as a striker he will never score more than 12-15 goals a season and for a striker 30 mill a striker who that kind goal scoring record is a poore deal i new fergi would never buy him for that price,yes man city have tons of money buts its what you do with that money the quality players you bring in and so far i am not imprressed.
enough about man city the only thing this current squad needs a dm players it seems wenger is looking play song cb which is good because he looks very solid in that area too and at 21 he will no dought get evon better,which it is very clear will have to buy dm player niether diaby or delinson is ready for that role. but the team has huge amount of attacking options and wenger can get striker easily enough so if ade want to leave he knows were the doore is wenger wont let him go for less than 20mill
July 14, 2009 at 16:18
Why did the blog title change?
July 14, 2009 at 16:18
Reyes couldnt speak spanish? HA!
July 14, 2009 at 16:19
Change to what gm?
July 14, 2009 at 16:20
“There have been discussions between ourselves and Arsenal but it is not really the time and place to discuss it,” Hughes revealed. “There has been contact and there is a deal to be done but it has not been concluded as we speak.”
doesnt sound too far away
July 14, 2009 at 16:21
He was a gypsy Stu, spoke the local gypsy language I think
July 14, 2009 at 16:23
City will be right up there in the scoring charts next season.
The only thing that may stop them being a force is their defence, but if they throw enough money at it they’ll end up getting it right.
Worrying….because 5 into 4 dont go!
July 14, 2009 at 16:23
On paper Utd are the weakest imo gambon, i’d love City to pip them for 4th!
July 14, 2009 at 16:24
It was caled adebaywhore something. Or was that yesterday?
July 14, 2009 at 16:25
Arsenal very pleased with Eduardo’s recovery
Eduardo has been talking to the Croatian press about his pre season training and has been very upbeat about his fitness and his troublesome ankle.
“Everything is great, nothing hurts me. Last week I worked with a fitness coach and physio. I did all that was required and Arsenal are very pleased with my recovery” he said.
He also revealed that no special care is needed or taken with regard to his ankle.
Remember he had to undergo revision surgery on the left ankle to remove small metal screws which were originally placed there to assist in his recovery from the horrible injury he sustained more than a year ago. The doctors also removed a bone that had been troubling him during the close season.
“Every day we are scheduled exercises running with the ball. Still, we mostly work on improving our fitness levels and endurance. No specific exercises are carried out for the operated ankle”
Arsène Wenger and Slaven Bilic will have some reason for feeling satisfied as they sent Eduardo to Croatian physiotherapist, Bojana Radanovic, who did a brilliant job on the player while he was holidaying in Zagreb.
Eduardo believes that his first game will be in Austria.
“We are leaving for Bad Waltersdorf next week, on Monday. We will play two games where I should get (playing) time in one” Eduardo said.
July 14, 2009 at 16:26
That’s annoying, guess he won’t be playing against Barnet then!
July 14, 2009 at 16:26
Arsenal Tom…sorry mate. I mis read your post !!! You were saying we sold him 8-10ish. I thought you were saying that is what he is worth now !!
A – yeah he was a Spanish gypo……they have a different dialect. Not sure about the other stuff….he was bullied at Arsenal by Henry and Pires mainly……..you watch some of the old clips when Henry and Pires were in the team. I remember Henry scoring and running to the fans, when Reyes put his hand on HEnry’s should, Henry quickly whacked it away……poor reyes just tried to ignore it !! I did feel sorry for him then
July 14, 2009 at 16:26
A,
Me too. But i think we are as in danger as anyone at this point.
If we spend the Ade money plus another £10m or so then maybe a different story, but with our current (minus Ade) squad i dont think we are gonna catch anyone. Another season of looking behind us rather than above.
July 14, 2009 at 16:28
So, Wenger being a genius again then.
Sell our only striker who’s EVER proven that he can score consistently, and buy the worst finisher in Ligue 1.
Seriously, what a fucking chump.
July 14, 2009 at 16:29
http://arsenalanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/07/arsenal-very-pleased-with-eduardos.html
Nice to hear that.Can’t wait for the season to start
July 14, 2009 at 16:29
Gotta disagree gambon, imo on paper we’re as good as anyone currently. After we signed arshavin we were on par with the rest, now we’ve signed Vermaelen, and gotten Rosicky and Eduardo back I expect us to be a level above the rest! If we sign a DM as well we’re good to go and could walk the league! We’re the team to catch in my eyes, though Liverpool will put up a good fight. Chelsea could be there or thereabouts too depending on who else they sign and how Ancelotti settles in, but if Utd really don’t sign anyone they’ll be fighting City for 4th place, but ourselves, Liverpool and Chelsea will be comfortable above them
July 14, 2009 at 16:30
Michael, what he said about Milan began bothering me so I changed the headline to reflect what he said! Funny no one else notice my creative changes!
July 14, 2009 at 16:30
“Sell our only striker who’s EVER proven that he can score consistently, and buy the worst finisher in Ligue 1.”
lol Jimbo, when did he prove that then?! The chamakh rumours are bollocks too
July 14, 2009 at 16:31
Jimbo…..calm down ! Firstly, he has not sold Ade yet. Secondly, he has not bought anyone yet……no point jumping to conclusions too early.
Remember you use to blog saying we would never sign Arshavin…….have faith bud
July 14, 2009 at 16:31
Ah ok Geoff, I was a bit confused by it when I last clicked on it, because I could’ve sworn it was different to before, but thought I was just going a bit nuts!
July 14, 2009 at 16:32
i’d take reyes for cover on the left wing, sell diaby and stop wasting nasri out there. i always thought he was nifty on the wing
July 14, 2009 at 16:33
Fact remains 46 goals in last 2 years, while Torres has 50 in last seasons, so Ade isnt as bad as everyone is making him out to be.
July 14, 2009 at 16:33
A
adebayors record is much better then any other player in our squad in the champs lge this year he got 5 in 7 his ratio is a goal every 150 mins
NOT BAD wehn u compare to rest of squad
July 14, 2009 at 16:33
United will definitely sign someone and will be challenging for the title.I tip chelsea to struggle.
July 14, 2009 at 16:33
A… I think you are right. I think our squad could be pretty good next year. I think the EPL will come down to the matches between the top 4…….Beating Manure, Chavs and scouse btards will be the key.
July 14, 2009 at 16:35
Take this as you will, but there goes another one, Ive just had a text from a scouse friend(works at anfield) who tells me that liverpool have agrrre a deal with real for alonso and have got bought cana to replace him, dunno if hes winding me up because he knows that arsenal fans wouldnt mind him but wouldnt surprise me, once its reported that wenger is looking either if he’s not you know the likes of the fat waiter will go for him, nothing on SSN so wait and see
July 14, 2009 at 16:35
See Geoff I do pay attention. I prefer the new look title!!!
July 14, 2009 at 16:36
I think its utterly stupid to be selling to a team that could kick us out of the top 4. Ade will score goals. He guarantees goals.
This one is going to come back and bite us in the ass. RVP has a dodgy injury record, excluding last season, while no body knows how Eduardo will do in terms of injuries.
I hope I’m wrong, but we’re selling one of our best strikers and getting someone who is worse than Darren Bent.
July 14, 2009 at 16:37
Well wardo, I never thought we would sign Arshavin – got that wrong, but I’m too happy about it to feel embarrassed!
However, Wenger’s comments about Chamakh scare the shit out of me. He’s a crap player, honestly, I have no idea why we’d even consider signing the guy. He’s worse than Bendtner.
July 14, 2009 at 16:37
Yeah that’s true Mark, in the champs league last year he had a remarkably good scoring record, in a stark contrast to the season before. It was only last season though, he’s not made a habit of it.
Yeah could well be the case Wardo, though I’m more worried about Liverpool than the other two, I hope Madrid and Barca gut their midfield though, then we’re fine!
July 14, 2009 at 16:38
Jimbo he isn’t considering signing him, don’t worry! It’ll never happen, just typical tabloid hacks twisting his comments
July 14, 2009 at 16:39
Geoff u stole my line with the susan boyle thingy
July 14, 2009 at 16:39
Pat we’re NOT gonna sign Chamakh!
July 14, 2009 at 16:39
are u joining pedro with his bindipping habits? lol
July 14, 2009 at 16:39
though he’s better than darren bent….
July 14, 2009 at 16:40
I won’t get too excited now.Looks like adebayor will leave now.Will wenger go and spend all that money.A DM will defo come in.I would rather have cavenaghi from bordeaux
July 14, 2009 at 16:40
ade is dfeo gone
he has work permit meeting in manchester tomorrow
BREAKING NEWS
oh well replace our most prolific goalscorer with the UNPROVEN Chamakh
another unnessacary risk from our club
DONT ALL ACT SHOCKED IF WE HAVE ANOTHER SEASON LIKE LAST
July 14, 2009 at 16:41
Sky sports news are reporting that Man city have a work permit hearing tomorrow for Adebayor!!
July 14, 2009 at 16:41
MG – you beat me to it
July 14, 2009 at 16:42
A – Wenger said Chamakh was an option if Ade left, a few weeks ago.
I really think that Wenger will be in for him.
July 14, 2009 at 16:42
Nah he won’t nisanth. 8-10 mil for Matuidi, then at most maybe a bid for Hazard for 8 mil or so I think it’s talked about as?? Maybe 3/4 mil on Welliton or that dutch 16/17 year old striker
July 14, 2009 at 16:43
i concur Mark Gooner
lets see what unfolds anyways. sometimes i wish i am arsene’s best friend. i would have given him a ring
July 14, 2009 at 16:43
Nah he didn’t Jimbo, that’s what the press twisted his words into meaning. He said he wasn’t interested in signing anyone because we’ve got a full squad, and was asked about chamakh and said he’s a good player, which is his standard answer when asked about anyone.
Therefore “Wenger says he’s definitely going to sign Chamakh if Ade is sold” in the tabloids’ eyes
July 14, 2009 at 16:44
I am not sure about that A.I really hope he signs for sunderland soon
July 14, 2009 at 16:44
nah i don’t we’re in for chamakh.
July 14, 2009 at 16:46
who else would u want to sign (striker) if we sold ade?
if forlan wouldnt have cost too much i would have loved him.
July 14, 2009 at 16:47
Jimbo……what Wenger says and what he does in the tranfer mkt are two different things. He never ever says who he wants to sign……..it could well be a smoke screen.
Selling Ade is a risk…….but big risk sometimes reap big rewards.
Fingers crossed mate. Stay positive!
July 14, 2009 at 16:48
Sorry Mark but i think that’s wonderful news.. Regardless of his standing within our strikers due to his goals in the past 2 seasons you can’t head butt your team mate, be a hate figure for most fans and still be at the club..
It’s a good move for all parties.. Do you think the vitriol coming from the blog world and stands has gone un noticed??? Don’t be daft. There is no point in dragging this sorry mess on any further…
I want to see more of Vela & Bendtner now as it is their time to step up and make a name for themselves.. If you are that concerned about eduardo’s fitness then bringing in chamakkh or hunterlaar at 24/25 y/o is a bad investment.. We should either bring in an unpolished gem like Berg or have faith in Simpson being an option.. I’d rather Berg from what i’ve seen but that’s just my opinion…
The money should though be reinvested in strengthening other area’s.. Most notably on the flanks (competition for walcott/injury cover for rosicky) and in the centre of the park.. Matuidi and Hazard would be great signings and not cost a fortune..
Sell one of senderos or sylvestre as we’re overloaded on centre halves and I think we’d be more then ready… So chill out..
July 14, 2009 at 16:48
too old too franchise. If someone top top quality was available then I’d have anyone, but there wouldn’t be anyone available in our price range, with the likes of City, Madrid, Chelsea, and even Utd if someone became available, so I’d imagine we won’t sign anyone
July 14, 2009 at 16:49
A:
Wenger’s only signing so far has been the Belgian defender Thomas Vermaelen and looks set to continue his quest to bring in a holding midfielder. However, should Adebayor move on, the Gunners boss could move for the Moroccan international Chamakh. “Yes, but only in the event of a departure,”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jul/03/arsenal-adebayor-marouane-chamakh
Am I getting the wrong end of the stick here?
July 14, 2009 at 16:49
Ade could be good but he doesn’t want to play for us FACT (hate that) So we have to out the cunt. Can I call him a cunt now?
July 14, 2009 at 16:49
Anyone for eto??????????
July 14, 2009 at 16:51
Anyone for eto?????//
July 14, 2009 at 16:51
SEE MOORE OF VELA
FUCKING HELL
THE GUY IS TOTALLY UNPROVEN
WE NEED TO CHALLENGE FOR THE LEAGUE AND BY BEDDING IN PLAYERS ITS A RICK NOT WORTH TAKING
IF WE REPLACE WITH A PROVEN GOALSCORER THEN OK
BUT WATS BETTING THAT CHAMAKH WHO HAS NEVER SCORED MORE THEN 12 GOALS INA SEASON IN FRANCE WILL BE EXPECTED TO COME IN AND DO THE JOB
FUCKING PATHETIC
July 14, 2009 at 16:51
If this deal goes through I want a striker brought in who won’t disappear at one of the most vital periods of the season to go play in the ACN.
July 14, 2009 at 16:51
Geoff Who’s Susan Boyle?
July 14, 2009 at 16:52
I’d have Eto BBK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But, think his price and wage demands would not only unsettle our current top earners but, would scare the Arsenal board off buying him…..
Anyway….good evening all. I’m off
July 14, 2009 at 16:52
Has anyone seen chamakh on a regular basis?Does he atleast work his ass off on the pitch/
July 14, 2009 at 16:53
ETO ALL DAY LONG BBK
lets make our intensions clear
stop fucking around with all these “potential greats and get a finished article great”
wages would be a major stumbling block though
July 14, 2009 at 16:53
If Ade leaves then i would either be happy what we have, buy Janko or wait until the Pog is free in november.
July 14, 2009 at 16:54
why man city agreed a fee of 25 mill for him he also said he would lower his wages to join united allegedly,so you never know,he would be perfect
July 14, 2009 at 16:54
I’d love that bbk.
Jimbo – that’s my point, I don’t believe those quotes can be taken at face value, and without the rest of the interview. Wenger will have been asked if he was gonna sign anyone, and he will have said the “Yes, but only in the event of a departure,”
They will have cut bits out, Wenger would never just reveal on radio that he wanted to sign someone, he makes everyone in the club keep it so so quiet, says that it’s very very important not to reveal targets, but then would just come out on radio himself and say “yeah I’m gonna try and sign Chamakh”….
Typical English media, and they’ve got more scope to manipulate it when it’s in a foreign language, AND on radio so there’s no official transcript to prove that they took quotes out of context, that’s the reason the rumours have lasted so long imo, despite the face Wenger said after them that he wasn’t in for Chamakh on the official website didn’t he??
July 14, 2009 at 16:54
I want marcus berg.Atleast he has got a good goalscoring record.Mark Gooner is spot on.Expecting a player who has never scored more than 13 goals in ligue 1 to do well in premier leauge is kindaa stupid
July 14, 2009 at 16:55
etoo is on 110000 a week at barca.Don’t think he is going to lower that to join another club
July 14, 2009 at 16:56
No Mark that is not “fucking pathetic” it’s having a little more faith in what we have than you do.
July 14, 2009 at 16:56
A u could be right but it can’t be completely ruled out
July 14, 2009 at 16:56
unless we go for an player of Eto status
then i cant see us doing fuck all
relying on bentdner as our only real STRIKER in squad is laughable
ETO VILLA OR ANY OTHER STRIKER currently playing for a top team in a top league scoring goals that is over 22 years old
otherewise its SHITE
July 14, 2009 at 16:57
Mark Gooner are you a season ticket holder? I sit next to someone called Mark who is just as much of a spoilt grumper moaner as you. Maybe you’re the same person…
July 14, 2009 at 16:57
@ Wardo, u r kidding yourself, look at the continuity of other top 4 clubs for their core starting XI players compare to ours shows one of the reasons why we are not winnings trophies or competing consistently every season.
July 14, 2009 at 16:57
Never know nisanth, he’s desperate to leave barca, and money isn’t an issue for him supposedly, and i actually believe him. I’d love us to sign him, but unlikely. Maybe we can just give them first choice in Barca in a few years time??!
July 14, 2009 at 16:57
oh i forgot clueless
July 14, 2009 at 16:57
Never know nisanth, he’s desperate to leave barca, and money isn’t an issue for him supposedly, and i actually believe him. I’d love us to sign him, but unlikely. Maybe we can just give them first choice in Cesc in a few years time??!
July 14, 2009 at 16:58
i agree mark
July 14, 2009 at 16:58
Im going to but forward Ibesevic as a suggestion. As proved yesterday by A, he is pretty clinical and regardless of the league clinical-ness is determined by the player himself, not the opposition (as such).
July 14, 2009 at 16:58
sell ade and bing in chamakh, wtf!
July 14, 2009 at 16:58
I am happy with the strikers we have.Just don’t want money wasted on chamakh.
July 14, 2009 at 16:58
how is bendtner our only real striker at the club? I make Eduardo, Van Persie & Vela all good quality centre forwards…
eto’o? What on 150k minimum a week? Pull the other one..
July 14, 2009 at 16:59
i agree mark..
July 14, 2009 at 17:00
I AM A SEASON TICKET HOLDER
but not a grumper
i just want to get back challenging for leagues and cant believe that after our failing last term all we have done so far is sign POTENTIAL
Vermaelen – HOPEFULLY turn out to be a great, but for an extra 4-5 mil could have had Lescott (premier league proven quality)
Matuidi – HOPEFULLY turn out to be a great, BUT STILL A RISK
but nothing compared to the risk we are taking selling ADE for Chamakh
July 14, 2009 at 17:00
nisanth – spot on.. We don’t need a striker like chamakh or hunterlaar.. The only reason it’s being muted is because some have major doubts over eduardo and van persie’s long term fitness.. If that is the case have more faith in simpson or get in an unpolished gem like berg…
July 14, 2009 at 17:00
I’d like Forlan, Fabiano, Dzeko.
Chamakh is such shit. There is no good in Ade’s departure if Chamakh is the one who replaces him.
July 14, 2009 at 17:00
vela??? must be kidding!
July 14, 2009 at 17:01
As am i nisanth, and we won’t waste money on chamakh, don’t worry!!
I dunno stu, he is very clinical, but the league and players around a player does make it much easier, standards of keepers, more time to take chances because the defence is worse etc. Though Ibisevic’s goal to shot ratio is very impressive.
If we could get someone like Etoo then that would be amazing, otherwise we’ve got enough goals in us, though if Hazard is that good then I wouldn’t be against signing him
July 14, 2009 at 17:01
I am fucking sure that won’t happen A.Him and barca have always problems regarding contracts.Excellent player but never really liked him.No chance of that happeneing
July 14, 2009 at 17:02
Has everyone seen the Ade clip on sky? Its of him standing there when the ball comes his way, a little off target, he looks at the passer and complains about the pass and walks sluggishly to get the ball. Lazy fecker
<<<what a shite smiley.
July 14, 2009 at 17:02
Mark Lescott is pants, nowhere near good enough for him, and would cost more than Vermaelen, who I expect to show he’s twice the player of Lescott! He better do anyways, seeing as Lescott is nowhere near good enough for a top 4 club!
July 14, 2009 at 17:03
true nisanth, but I always thought that it was because Etoo wanted Barca to prove they really wanted to keep him because they kept mistreating him and trying to offload him, I’m not sure he’s actually obsessed by money, but could well be the case. Would be a very unlikely signing anyways, but you never know!
July 14, 2009 at 17:04
Mark you could look at it the other way too.
Valencia could struggle to score goals
Owen could probably be injured all the time
Berbatov will continue to struggle
No harm in showing a little faith in the players we have
July 14, 2009 at 17:04
A, That’s a harsh assessment of Lescott.. He has made strides in his development enough to warrant a push for a top4 transfer.. He might excel further, who knows?
What i do know though, is that at the 15-25m price tag, it is a huge gamble..
July 14, 2009 at 17:06
And how old is Lescott too. He aint a young’un anymore. 27 or something.
July 14, 2009 at 17:06
Are there any really experienced strikers out there who we could get for cheap amount.I would have bought RVN if he wasn’t a manc cunt
July 14, 2009 at 17:07
Nah I disagree Reva, he had a good season 2 years ago, mainly at left back, but for the first half of the start of the season just gone he was pants, and even lost his place briefly for them didn’t he?? Everton’s third best centre back in my eyes, Jagielka is miles better than him, and Yobo just pips him as well. The way he shied out of the way of the ball in the FA Cup final is also unforgivable.
July 14, 2009 at 17:07
27 in august stu
July 14, 2009 at 17:07
nishath
to be honest i couldnt give fuck about united
just us and we had a shit season last year and unlese we improve it will be the same this year
we aint far off, JUST A TOP NOTCH DM
BUT SELLING ADE FOR POTENTIAL IS A YID MOVE
July 14, 2009 at 17:07
nishanth, thats a lot of ifs for my like! anyway if u want to win the league, u must have a strong squad and not depend on how other teams play!
July 14, 2009 at 17:08
Chamakh’s plead sounds like one of desperation to me… please sign me, I may only score 5 goals a season but I promise to score more in the African Nations Cup!!
Do we really need another bit part player when these players cost us our squad shape and consistency season upon season.. Ferguson knows not to sign too many players which disrupt his team and hopefully the penny with drop when Wenger announces some new signings in due course!
July 14, 2009 at 17:08
26 Stu, 27 in a month. He’s just a typical average English centre back, couple of levels below the best but a good premiership defender. No different from Upson, neither are good enough for us.
July 14, 2009 at 17:09
Not selling ade for potential mark, eduardo and arshavin are gonna play the games that he did this season, we’re not losing anything other than a plan B imo.
July 14, 2009 at 17:09
nishanth, I’m sure we could get Trezeguet for a good price. I’ve always liked him.
July 14, 2009 at 17:10
wasn’t arshavin on top whack at zenit???
July 14, 2009 at 17:10
I don’t either mark.I am just saying that we have good strikers.Bendtner is only going to improve.We also RVP,arshavin eduardo and vela.Theo could play upfront too.I know theo and vela havn’t really proved their goalscoring abilities yet but i don’t think its a gamble depending on them.YES we need a DM badly.
July 14, 2009 at 17:11
We’ve got enough forward options in Eduardo, Van Persie, Bendtner, Arshavin, Vela & Walcott anyway.. So why bring in someone we clearly don’t need?. If we are worried about injuries to an extent there is also Simpson.
I’d say use the money on a top class centre mid like toulalan with the money, but if there is an option of bulking the squad numbers with quality in matuidi, hazard & berg i’d say either way we’ve invested well…
July 14, 2009 at 17:11
ive heard from a very good source linked to chelsea
John Terry has all but signed for 41 mil today for city
will get announced on thursday before chelsea fly out to usa
July 14, 2009 at 17:12
Mark. 16.51 Should I go kill myself cos everything cos the skys about to fall in and the end of the world is nigh.
Talk about hysterical hyperbole…and ALL IN CAPS AS WELL, thats gotta lend it some more weight
July 14, 2009 at 17:13
Havn;t seen him play for a long time PAT.Is he still any good?
July 14, 2009 at 17:13
Yep! this one looks like its a goer. Can’t say I am pleased. We have hounded him out and we can only hope that the club can replace a player with a 1 in 2 goal ratio with the right player. The one player I believe would have been ideal for was Karim Benzema.
Lets break this down a little right now. If/When Ade leaves, we have to ask ourselves will we be in a better position to challenge than we were in last season?
Considering what we assume to be on the list of possible replacements, Chimpkah. Would it not be very risky for us to expect him to pick up the slack for these goals in his first season in this Country?
Can Bendtner score 15 to 18 league goals same for RVP and Eduardo?
You know I fear although we have a large squad we are going a lacking of power.
July 14, 2009 at 17:13
That would be awesome mark, just have alonso put in his transfer request and our three rivals have all been gutted!
July 14, 2009 at 17:15
Adebayor is young as well. Drogba was shit when he was his age.
I think we’re making a big mistake, and I do expect Ade to become better than Drogba
July 14, 2009 at 17:15
I think if Ade does go we should reinvest on a top player with class. Not someone who just costs alot but someone with that touch of class like Arshavin. For DM Toulalan is that person.
But i suppose Matuidi will have to do.
July 14, 2009 at 17:15
Seriously Mark where do you sit, I think we might be neighbours.
July 14, 2009 at 17:16
I reckon rafa might stick 2 fingers up at real if we just stuffed 22m up liverpool’s noses for alonso..
July 14, 2009 at 17:16
of course bendy can henry, he got 9 this year, one less than ade, and never had a proper run in the team, of course eduardo and vp can!
Yes I believe we’re in a much better position to challenge than we were last season.
I agree completely about Benzema, he would have been amazing, but would never have happened because of Madrid being willing to spend silly money.
July 14, 2009 at 17:16
sharky sure
its the only way to get my point across in amongsth all the other bollocks on here about people talking about man citys squad and how vela and bendtner will step up and take ades place
if u actually think that the adebayor story is NOT true then u are stupid
July 14, 2009 at 17:16
stu how about eto,would you be happy with that
July 14, 2009 at 17:17
Stu I think Matuidi would suit our needs more than Toulalan. We need someone with the energy and tenacity, not someone who’s very good but just sits deep. Maybe if Mascherano goes to Barca yaya could still be on the cards?!
July 14, 2009 at 17:18
July 14, 2009 at 17:18
A, Mascherano isn’t going anywhere.. Alonso on the other hand has all but put in a transfer request..
July 14, 2009 at 17:18
mark bendy scored more or less the same goals as ade did this past season anyways, whilst never being first choice regularly, he can certainly take ade’s place, but he won’t because eduardo’s back, and arshavin’s here from the start of the season.
July 14, 2009 at 17:19
A have u seen matuide play
July 14, 2009 at 17:19
Sir Henry
He hasn’t been “hounded out” He’s a lazy money grabber.
July 14, 2009 at 17:19
I certainly would be BBK. Not many better than Eto in terms of goals and effort. There are more clinical players but Eto is amazing.
Mark, when i see comments in mostly or all capital letters i actually avoid reading them so it has the opposite effect. Make a calm and rational comment…they all get read anyway.
July 14, 2009 at 17:19
lol nope nisanth, just going on what other people have told me
July 14, 2009 at 17:21
We’d have to obliterate our wage structure to land eto’o. Not gonna happen.
July 14, 2009 at 17:21
Shit! I voted for the wrong one by accident and now i cant vote again! Bollocks!
July 14, 2009 at 17:22
July 14, 2009 at 17:23
I dont think so bbk. He only wants so much from city because he knows he wont win anything there and would have to make up for it with the monies.
And he is pissed at Barca and wants all the money he can get off them because they treated him like shit.
July 14, 2009 at 17:23
with the 50% tax law and him being on 110-130 a week at barca where in spain its about 18%.. No Chance… If he signed for Arsenal at 80k a week like Van persie i’d know onlt then he was here for the club and the football.. Has mercenary written all over him..
July 14, 2009 at 17:23
i go for top class DM and a utility player
July 14, 2009 at 17:24
stu,was a.a on top whack at zenit?
July 14, 2009 at 17:24
I’d take Matuidi over Toulalan as well
July 14, 2009 at 17:24
A,
I can understand being sceptical about Lescott, but when we have Toure in the side he would definately improve us.
Toure is embarrasingly bad as a CB.
Lescott wins a lot of first balls, something we cannot do.
Zapata is better, and i a player i want, but lets face it Wenger is probably already regretting signing Vermaelen, so i cant see another CB coming!
July 14, 2009 at 17:24
Yeah BBK, he was supposedly on about 100k a week.
July 14, 2009 at 17:25
if we sell adebayor at 25m
and buy:
Matuidi 8m
Hazard 7m
Berg 10m
Great business
July 14, 2009 at 17:25
When i read someone writing in CAPS it just reminds me of an angry loony shouting in the street.
July 14, 2009 at 17:26
I think Wenger is definitely interested in Chamakh – he’s so careful with his words that when he says “yes, but if someone leaves”, then he’s said a thousand words in the space of five.
I have no trouble with Wenger signing a player that clearly most of you don’t rate. In fact, I rate Wenger’s opinion on football talent more highly that most of the peanut throwers around here.
I think this is a very exciting time for the club, judging clearly by the amount of comments coming through on the blogs.
July 14, 2009 at 17:26
i think if arsenal made a good enough offer for him within there limits he might consider us,it’s only the fact that man city have got a bottomless pit so why not try and milk it
July 14, 2009 at 17:26
ade record was better then 1 every 2 game this year
better then bendtner
not saying bendy wont turn out to be e very good striker
but he is not at the level of adebayor
July 14, 2009 at 17:28
I disagree gambon, I’d have toure over Lescott every time. I agree though that Toure has certainly gone down hill over the last couple of years, but not to a level below Lescott.
Why would wenger be regretting signing Vermaelen?
Reva that’s three players, and we’ve already signed Vermaelen. Wenger said recently he’d never sign more than three players in a transfer window….
Minus Berg and I’d be very happy with that though
July 14, 2009 at 17:28
Potentially sound judgement Reva… Wenger did say that he expects to sign 2 or 3 more and what with Adeshitewhore going offski, then.. 3 is the magic number!
July 14, 2009 at 17:29
You’re right Mark, he is beyond the level of Adebayor!
I would take him over Adebayor every day of the week. He’s a team player, works hard and his finishing is improving rapidly. Most of all, he wants to be the best. Seems Ade just wants to be paid the most.
Bendtner is motivated by football.
Adebayor is motivated by money.
July 14, 2009 at 17:29
reVELAtion,
So last year our 2 main problems were,
1- We were too young
2- The balance between defence and attack was wrong
And the answer is to spend our money on a midget DM and 2 nappy wearing attacking players.
We need powerful, experienced winners in the DM and CB positions, not more also ran kids.
July 14, 2009 at 17:30
A,
He’s regretting it cos he only likes signing 5ft7in attacking players!
July 14, 2009 at 17:31
Yeah A, that comment attributed to wenger sunds a bit like “i’m not spending any more money this summer” or “i’m not interested in arshavin”.. Not buying more then 3 probably is said along the lines of “no more than 3 if we don’t lose anyone”..
Wenger has bought in 3 or more on several occassions..
July 14, 2009 at 17:31
Mark Hughes confirms Ade chase:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2535158/Man-City-want-Emmanuel-Adebayor.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=Football
July 14, 2009 at 17:32
“Everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife at home.”
Arsene Wenger in response to Sir Alex Ferguson’s ” They are scrappers who rely on belligerence – we are the better team” comment after Arsenals 2002 double winning season. As quoted on BBC Sport
Arsenal fans might have a case of grass is greener though…
July 14, 2009 at 17:32
I’m going with (on a whole):
Arsenal outs: Adebayor 25m
Senderos 5m/Sylvestre Free
+ Loans (Traore, Simpson, Randall, Barazite, Gilbert etc.)
Arsenal ins:
Vermaelen 10m
Hazard 7m
Matuidi 8m
Berg 10m
July 14, 2009 at 17:33
i.m.o we should go for a marquee signing can you imagine the buzz around the place if we brought in eto
July 14, 2009 at 17:33
I would like to know why sky are assuming this work permit hearing tomorrow is for Adebayor, after all surely Tevez would need a work permit as well so the hearing could be for him.
July 14, 2009 at 17:34
It depends what you look at Mark,
In the league ade scored 10 in 21 starts, overall he scored 15 in 29 starts, 6 subs
bendy scored 9 in 17 starts, 14 sub, in the league
14 in 26 starts, 22 sub in the league.
Goals to minute they’re almost identical.
Bendy is imo at the same level of ade in terms of goalscoring, if he got the same games he’d score the same goals, but his all round game is far superior
July 14, 2009 at 17:34
Gambon we got that monster of a DM that we talk about, his name was Baptista… everyone in our team needs to have attacking ability.
July 14, 2009 at 17:34
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/first-indications-of-arsenal-squad-for-barnet
Heard wenger is planning to play some of the senior players for this one
July 14, 2009 at 17:35
Adebayor, “work” permit meeting tomorrow? There’s an oxymoron if ever I heard one.
He had our permission to work last season but couldn’t be fucked!
See you later cunt, hello chipmonk!
July 14, 2009 at 17:35
I think people are going a bit over the top with all this Chamakh being shit talk.
He can’t be that bad if he’s the first choice striker for Bordeaux, who just won the league, and by all accounts he has good link up play and understands the offside rule.
He could be a good option.
July 14, 2009 at 17:36
Rather we kept senderos too reva.
Wenger said that if you add more than 3 players to a first team squad then you unsettle things and it’s too many, can’t remember him signing more than 3 in a season before has he? Though maybe when he was expecting a period of transition??
It’s debatable whether there’s any space for a single attacking addition anyways, no way we’d sign two.
July 14, 2009 at 17:37
ade to be announced at 1pm tomorrow
July 14, 2009 at 17:37
would rather berg and see more of bendtner and vela..
July 14, 2009 at 17:37
Actually i thought Cavenaghi was their first choice.
July 14, 2009 at 17:39
where you get that from mark??
July 14, 2009 at 17:39
would rather berg and see more of vela and bender i ask you why????????????/
July 14, 2009 at 17:40
Carlos Vela is the dog’s bollocks. He will explode next season.
July 14, 2009 at 17:41
Summer 2007 Transfers
In:
Lukasz Fabianski ( £2m, Legia Warsaw)
Carlos Eduardo da Silva Dudu (£7.5m, Dinamo Zagreb )
Havard Nordtveit (undisclosed, Haugesund,)
Lassana Diarra (undisclosed, Chelsea)
Bacary Sagna (£7m, Auxerre
Summer 2008 Transfers
In:
Samir Nasri (£11m, Marseille)
Carlos Alberto Vela (returning from loan, work permit approved)
Aaron Ramsey (£5m, Cardiff)
Amaury Bischoff (undisclosed, Werder Bremen)
Mikael Silvestre (£750k, Manchester United)
Just using the last two as an example… More Wenger bullox
July 14, 2009 at 17:41
MarkG: 17.16.
“its the only way to get my point across” – really..?? I thought people on here had been shooting your arguments down all day.
Go read my post again and see if I doubt that Ades going, then ask yerself that question again about who’s stupid…??
Plus, every post since your ‘hysterical’ one has been more and more calm…funny that!
God only knows how you react to weekly fire alarm tests…I’m guessing its with blind panic.
July 14, 2009 at 17:42
Actually Cavenaghi is fucking brilliant. Career total (on wiki) is 123 goals in 254 appearances. Just a little worse than 1 in 2.
July 14, 2009 at 17:42
Because Eduardo and Van persie are not going to be as injured as many are predicting @ BBK
July 14, 2009 at 17:43
manc reporter says once all paperwork is sorted from his meeting at 11 to get his work permit sorted he will go straight to the eastlands for press conf
so that looks like its a done deal
please tell me why the people who 6 months ago were saying that bendtner is shit are now happy for him to be our main striker
as for vela how many starts did he get in lge last year 1
i expect a team like fulham to sign berg not a team with ambition to win the league
July 14, 2009 at 17:43
AAAHHHHHHH FIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
July 14, 2009 at 17:43
Nordviet is on loan till august right?
July 14, 2009 at 17:44
true reva, though nordveit and fabianski didn’t come in as first choice, and vela and ramsey didn’t really either, but then you could say the same if hazard and berg came in.
Still no space going forward but I guess young players don’t count in the 3 players thing
July 14, 2009 at 17:44
i realy not that impressed by tevez deal at all i like his work rate but for a striker he does not score many enough goals to warrent 30 mill,he will never score 20 goals a season and 25 mill for ade is agreat deal quite franckly ade shown he is not team player and yes he has tanelent but he can be replaced very easily,we have team looks very strong and although mna city has alot of money as a team and a squad i feel arsenal team have better players particualy our attacking players
July 14, 2009 at 17:44
I have always backed bendtner to come good and i’ll stick by that assumption for the forthcoming season..
July 14, 2009 at 17:45
I know Mark. Those damn two faced people. How can you not live Bendtner ffs!
July 14, 2009 at 17:45
MG, Vela will tear it up, trust me.
I correctly called out Denilson as being shit the moment he first played three years ago, and now I’m saying Vela will be brilliant for us.
I rarely get these things wrong!
July 14, 2009 at 17:46
mark bendy won people round, but who on earth is saying he’s gonna be our main striker?! he’s gonna move from 5th choice to 4th choice in my eyes, and he would have done that anyways with ade moving down to 5th this season as it was!
vp, arshavin, eduardo, bendy is the order, bendy wouldn’t be our main striker
July 14, 2009 at 17:46
sharky sure
do u really think im gona waste my time and read your comments
ade is gone and most on here see dont want him replacing
im just shocked by that
July 14, 2009 at 17:47
In all honesty Ade will have a good first season, just to show that he’s better than we thought… second season i’m not sure… depends on whether they give him the 300k he’ll ask for.
July 14, 2009 at 17:47
i don’t understand all the negativity around chamakh. he’ll be a relatively cheap signing, he isn’t being signed as 1st choice, and from all accounts he’s a grafter – wasn’t that our main gripe against adebayor, he didn’t give a shit?
chamakh appears to have decent touch/control, which ade didn’t, it sounds like he’s decent in the air, which ade wasn’t (given his physique) – and i’m sure we will work on his finishing just like we did with henry and adebayor.
so, i say – give the lad a chance. you don’t wanna be eating your words this time next year, so let’s reserve our judgement.
July 14, 2009 at 17:48
A I’d say it was more van persie, eduardo, bendtner, arshavin, vela..
Arshavin, still imo, will operate mostly from a wide area if he and van persie start in the same 11…
July 14, 2009 at 17:49
red25: Two reasons,
a) The African Cup of nations
b) Berg is younger, a better finisher and a better bargain
July 14, 2009 at 17:49
true that Revela
July 14, 2009 at 17:49
tevez and adeybayor could be a good combination, tevez will run all day unlike adeybayor but adeybayor will make up for tevez’ lack of firepower
July 14, 2009 at 17:50
Mark – why are you writing Eduardo off?? He is clearly the most clinical striker at the club regardless of whether Ade is there or not. Vela certainly isn’t the finished article but he is clearly a more clinical striker than Adebayor. Forget how many goals Ade scores just remember how many he misses, if one of our current strikers or a new signing get those chances you’d expect them to better Ade’s goal tally.
July 14, 2009 at 17:50
Mark, you made a fool of yourself there. If you dont reads Sharkeys post how do you know he is talking about you? Exactly!
July 14, 2009 at 17:50
i agree reva, but it’s gonna be a front three and they’ll all rotate
July 14, 2009 at 17:50
Leon. I hear ya ….
Man Citys dressing room and training ground will need UN peace keepers next season…
Especially once John ‘I’m bigger than the Club’ Terry starts throwing his weight around
July 14, 2009 at 17:51
Mancity now will have a strike force to equal any in Europe, it’s the MF and defence that’ll decide their fortunes
July 14, 2009 at 17:52
vp is a 2nd striker
aa is a 2nd striker
and seeing as both of those will start that only leaves room for 1 main striker
not sure if dudu can play as a main striker
up top alone
i love dudu but we need something else
July 14, 2009 at 17:53
if wenger wants to play the barca way so much he should be going in for a player like eto to supplement that theory,afterall theres no one better to have in that system then eto,he would the best signing if that one came true
July 14, 2009 at 17:54
Mark G
“do u really think im gona waste my time and read your comments”
I reckon you just did pal.
Anyway, all animosity aside, you’ve thrown up some good transfer updates today, I give yer credit for that.
July 14, 2009 at 17:55
Lol, since when was Baptista a DM!
Last year journo’s asked Arsene why he wont go and spend £20m on a player, and his reply was something like “i cant get what i need for £20m”
I assume that means he recognises that players such as Chamakh, Matuidi arent any better than what we have.
We need top top class players in key positions, not more squad level also rans.
You can add 20 players of Matuidis level to our squad and we’ll just come fourth again, add 2-3 worldies like Toulalan, Lucio & Affelay and we walk the league.
Quality not quantity.
July 14, 2009 at 17:55
I’m sure Eduardo could lead the line. I think Wenger is going to play a 4-3-3 formation anyway judging by what he’s said this summer.
I would like another striker to arrive & I don’t want Eto or Chamakh (however thats spelt).
July 14, 2009 at 17:56
Yes A, as written the other day i do expect walcott to play in a more advanced role on the right of a 3.. But i just think a Chamakh coming in means Vela is likely to go out on loan and i’d rather he was afforded more opportunity’s whether it be on the left of midfield or upfront, same goes for bendtner..
Berg would be a good addition to bring in if eduardo has injury problems as he has a similar type of “killer in the box” game…
The only reason i can see a grafter like chamakh coming in is if we are more likely to play alot of games away 4-5-1 and play off the front man and utilise balls into the box from wide areas.. That is such an anti-wenger way of playing football..
July 14, 2009 at 17:56
Eduardo can play as a CF, but not as a lone one because none of our forwards can do that. But with the support of 2 widemen (aa and rvp) eduardo will be great through the middle. And A better not disagree with that!
July 14, 2009 at 17:58
stu i meant i aint gona go and read his comments again
July 14, 2009 at 17:59
looks like he isnt going today is he boys…damn.
July 14, 2009 at 18:00
Well he was a CM who was a monster, and was brought in because of his tenacity. Anyway my point is people w/o technical ability don’t last at arsenal, even flamini for all his work rate needed at least 3 creative players for him to be effective. When rosicky got injured all the oppo had to do is mark Fab to stop our creativity coz flamini offered nothing on the attacking front.
July 14, 2009 at 18:00
if u all want to go and earn a bit of cash get of terru signing for city
it will be announced on thursday
July 14, 2009 at 18:00
i still think manu will be very strong next saeson ,fergi new what he was doing when let go tevez who wanted to be manu top earner and plus 32 mill to buy him not worth it.but edwardo,rvp,niiki b,vela plus new signing not alot to worry about ,plus aa,risicky,nasri
July 14, 2009 at 18:00
Eduardo is best used in a 2man combo as a top centre forward playing in front of a deep lying player like van persie and arshavin or off a big man like bendtner…
He is wasted up front on his own…
July 14, 2009 at 18:01
whats xabi alonso’s price tag these days?
July 14, 2009 at 18:01
Hmm yes, expecting someone who has been a flop in Serie A to be a success at THOF would be stupid too!
Oh hold on, DB10, TH14.
July 14, 2009 at 18:02
How good a souce is that tho mark,im not trying to mug you off by me asking you this but you know you hear all sorts of rumours these days nothing personal
July 14, 2009 at 18:03
Yesterday it was a distant dream but tomorrow it looks as tho it will become reality good bye you useless lazy inept money grabbing cunt, Really find it strange tho that so many want richards as part of any deal now that is one overrated player had one good season and become billy big bollocks another english talent that will never fulfil his potential,, Fuck me the bloke thought he had alchole poisioning rather than swine flu shows him to be a true proffesional!! Anyway looking forward to our new signings whoever they may be and will reserve judgement rather than rate them of clips from youtube!!
July 14, 2009 at 18:04
Eduardo is at his best when playing to the left of Bendtner. Same with Vela. Bendtner is our best combination forward. And even Theo said he would prefer to play off Bendtner/.
July 14, 2009 at 18:04
35 million euros for madrid.. I reckon whatever we take for ade, 25m or so..
July 14, 2009 at 18:04
the clips on youtube show what he’s like infront of goal and there not very clever
July 14, 2009 at 18:05
A. You talk a lot of sense but…>>> I don’t believe on top of the RVP goals that Bendtner and or Eduardo will score the enough goals needed for a team that are supposed to challenging for trophies.
When we went close season before last Ade scored over 20 league goals unless Bendtner turns in to Samuel Eto’o in 3 months I think this will beyond his skill set.
As a matter of fact the aforementioned Eto’o is the only available striker that fits in to what we need.
No nonsense finishing, the work rate of a nutter, experience and know-how, basically hes a winner unlike the majority of our young and talented squad…
It stands to reason that such a move carries less risk than signing the talented Chamakah IMHO… And as Breg Hazard I mean are you trying to talk us in 7th place.
July 14, 2009 at 18:05
who’s that bbk?
July 14, 2009 at 18:06
who’s what reve
July 14, 2009 at 18:08
if you think with our current squad and the additions of berg, hazard & matuidi is me trying to talk us into 7th sir henry, then we obviosuly have differing opinions of what we would have at our disposale.. I’d back a squad of:
Almunia/Fabianski/Mannone
Sagna/Eboue/G.Hoyte
Gallas/Senderos/Bartley
Vermaelen/Toure/Ayling
Clichy/Gibbs/Evina
Walcott/Hazard/Rosicky
Fabregas/Denilson/Ramsey
Matuidi/Song/Thomas
Arshavin/Nasri/Merida
Van Persie/Bendtner
Eduardo/Berg/Vela
To be challenging on all fronts and nothing less…
July 14, 2009 at 18:08
BOY BETTER KNOW Says:
July 14, 2009 at 18:04
the clips on youtube show what he’s like infront of goal and there not very clever..
Who you refering too?
July 14, 2009 at 18:09
arent youtube videos ment to make people look good not shit
July 14, 2009 at 18:09
chamukh
July 14, 2009 at 18:10
whats wrong with the smilies.. they seem wierd!
July 14, 2009 at 18:10
wouldnt it be nice to get david villa and xabi alonso?
July 14, 2009 at 18:11
or just xabi alonso. alonso and cesc would be perfect.
July 14, 2009 at 18:12
BBk, don’t want him… Like i told red25.. 2 reasons:
a) African cup of nations
b) Berg is younger, a better finisher and a better bargain at 10m…
Eto’o, Villa, Even Hunterlaar are not going to happen… But Chamackh might and i would personally hate that.
July 14, 2009 at 18:12
One thing that does stand out with Chamakh is that he has Henry like pace. As I said though I don’t want any more african players.
July 14, 2009 at 18:12
I would rather Villa than Alonso but neither are likely. I would also prefer Alonso to go to another league and get dropped from the spain squad so he cant injure Cesc anymore.
July 14, 2009 at 18:12
whats up BBK? all going well?
July 14, 2009 at 18:13
you could put together a selection of clips that would make any forward in world football look shit if you tried hard enough all forwards miss sitters from time to time, Id rather trust our scouts judgemnet than some random clips as they havent really let us down before have they Henry Anelka etc
July 14, 2009 at 18:13
I would much prefer Berg aswell. He is only 3 years younger but has a much better record and is already very good. Chamakh is just average..
July 14, 2009 at 18:13
Yea wtf is with that. 3 times right? fucking alonso, and then casillas yells at cesc for a tackle.
July 14, 2009 at 18:14
BTW, i would much rather see alonso then villa.
July 14, 2009 at 18:14
Chippy, you’re forgetting about Aliadiere, Jeffers etc
July 14, 2009 at 18:15
is berg that good? and is he that good now? or will it be 3 years?
July 14, 2009 at 18:16
What about David Silva to replace Ade, he could play wide right, and at least then Theo wouldnt get a game.
July 14, 2009 at 18:17
Hey what happened to CDM with the money!
July 14, 2009 at 18:18
We dont have the money luke. Simples
July 14, 2009 at 18:19
for what stu? I was only fantasizing about xabi alonso and villa. We dont have the money for berg? CDM? 25 from ade, and we must still have 5 or 7 lying around
July 14, 2009 at 18:19
Berg would be an option if eduardo is unavailable in his 1st season and that’s what we should be primarily be looking for… Chamakh at 25 and still in development stages is not a good investment especially as it’s time for bendtner and vela to stake a claim and make names for themselves… Berg all day long…
And yes, Luke Berg is that good in the box.. We have no one else like that if eduardo is injured and we will fail again to convert chances when in periods of games we are doinating possession.
July 14, 2009 at 18:20
YES Luke! Thats what im saying We dont have the money because Ade is still here. Duh!
July 14, 2009 at 18:21
well shit, he should go then eh. We should have enough money for matuidi w/o ade’s revenue though.
July 14, 2009 at 18:22
Berg is a proper goalscorer aswell. Can score with either foot or his head and usually in the right place and gets a shot on target.
July 14, 2009 at 18:22
Once we sell Ade, buy—
1. Matuidi
2. Hazard
3. Berg
4. Russian fo free in January Pogrebenky.
July 14, 2009 at 18:22
So why don’t Arsenal say something, why do we hear it from Hughes and every other blog first???
Anyone rate Jenas?
July 14, 2009 at 18:24
Jenas is shite but he always scores against us. Thats one reason I hope he f***s off to Inter Milan.
July 14, 2009 at 18:24
Have you guys read into Hazard. He’s arshavin but a winger and he’s 18. I know its youtube but entertain it for a favor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQTyv2oh5AA
July 14, 2009 at 18:24
DId I mention it is his dream to play for arsenal…
July 14, 2009 at 18:25
If we get hazard, theo can play where is meant to finally. Hazard can go down left wing or right.
July 14, 2009 at 18:26
Luke – Hazard is class, trouble is he is not someone who’d instantly be in contention for the first team. Would love to see him arrive at Arsenal just not at the expense of a more experienced player.
July 14, 2009 at 18:26
Berg just looked good because it was the under 21’s, be careful, he’s not half the player Vela is and we have enough babies, I’d take Hazard though.
July 14, 2009 at 18:28
Stu, True
Geoff carnt stand Jenas even the scum faithful dont rate the bloke!! Anyone else been hearing the rumours about that daniella llyod bird?
July 14, 2009 at 18:29
Mark Gooner, you’re f**cking negative!!! Vela is one for the future and bendtner is in my eyes, the last weeks very good and ready for the new season. And chamakh isn’t shit. He works his socks off and he create area for other players. He had an incredible relationship with gourcuff and wenger hopes for the same with fabregas. He is good. And matuidi is just what we need. powerful,tackling and played just for the defence. Those 2 players are not popular because they have not the name of eto’o or messi. But they are quality. You will see. But i don’t think wenger will sign chamakh, it think that wenger will go after huntelaar for 20 million the other 10 milion we spend to matuidi.
July 14, 2009 at 18:30
I think he would contend for 1st team though. He’d compete for it. Arsenal is his dream! He won player of the year at age 17 or 18 in france. I mean, it’s france but player of the year. And he has nowehre to go but up. We have to snatch him before madrid. Besides, we are already going to get matuidi and if we sign hazard it is a double signing. 1. We get the future best winger in Europe, AND a striker cuz Theo can play that role now that RW has someone.
July 14, 2009 at 18:31
HAZARD AND MATUIDI!!! YEAAA!
July 14, 2009 at 18:32
Guys, berg is not that good. People rate players on youtube and his goals. But I look every dutch league highlights and berg is not good enough for us. Rate players on his total game and not on youtube or the goals scored.
July 14, 2009 at 18:33
Hazard said his dream clubs would be Arsenal & Barcelona. That means we’d have the indifferent performances but the minute he reaches Ronaldo level he’d clear off to Spain.
July 14, 2009 at 18:33
Luke, Arsenal is not linked to hazard. SO dream on. Arsenal is not interested in hazard, isn’t it??
July 14, 2009 at 18:33
Im a berg skeptic cuz i havnt seen him play. Open though…
July 14, 2009 at 18:34
I think that Ferguson is the one who is lying about the whole Tevez affair and this has all backfired on him. He had absolutely no intention of keeping him. Tevez fought tooth and nail to get a permanent contract but Ferguson knew that Ronaldo was going to be sold and wanted Benzema, Ribery or Villa, little did he know that all these players will snub him and he ended up with two average players and a crock. Now he is making a scapegoat out of Tevez.
July 14, 2009 at 18:35
YES WE ARE WE ARE LINKED WE ARE INTERESTED!
http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/07/04/1363864/eden-hazard-issues-plea-to-arsenal
http://www.imscouting.com/global_news_item.aspx?id=2064
July 14, 2009 at 18:35
Nothing recent, but it’d be so great. THe creativity of him, arshavin, and cesc on a midfield.
July 14, 2009 at 18:35
berg reminds me a lot of edin dzeko..someone who gets those scrappy goals and has that innate knowledge of being in the right place at the right time,,,,
also did anyonee see tevez’s press conference…having lived in england for quite a few years how the fuck does he not know atleast a few owrds of english…
July 14, 2009 at 18:36
I believe Hazard is a right winger. I think we’re set in that department.
What I think we need is left sided player. David Silva would be perfect.
July 14, 2009 at 18:37
Hazard does both wings Paulinho. We dont have a right winger. Theo is a striker
July 14, 2009 at 18:37
ROhan, im pitchin Hazard here…help
July 14, 2009 at 18:40
So, luke you’re right. Hazard and matuidi are very good, and with them we can win the title!!
July 14, 2009 at 18:41
I just think Nasri is better on the right than he is on the left so he can fill in there as well.
If Hazard can play both then fair enough.
July 14, 2009 at 18:41
heyyyy! Im feelin the love now!
July 14, 2009 at 18:42
hazard imo is onoe of the top young talents in the world right now..and i believe that he is direct enough to be able to make an impact in the premier league unlike messi who would be bullied…i can safely say that at this point in time he is better than walcott as a winger
being the ligue one player of the year, he is the heir to the likes of nasri and benzema before him and i feel that given that he has issued a come and get me plea he would be ideal for us….
July 14, 2009 at 18:42
Nasri belongs in the center truly though
July 14, 2009 at 18:44
786 might be onto something, when you think about tevez’s commitment on the pitch and his relationship with the fans i makes me think why would he not want to play for Man U.
July 14, 2009 at 18:44
iwould also like to see hazard join to play on either wing.
July 14, 2009 at 18:44
Lets get him on a 5 year deal
July 14, 2009 at 18:44
With that 30 million we can buy much people.
And i am sure wenger would spend it. Matuidi comesfor sure. Then we have 23 million over. For who that’s the question?? I hope for hazard but i think that he stays for one year.
July 14, 2009 at 18:46
the reason hazard would be welcomed is the lack of a true out and out winger in our ranks since overmars…
however wenger does like to deploy playmakers such as pires and rosicky in wide positions so that they drift inward leaving the fullbacks to bomb forward and use the space…hence i doubt wenger will swoop for him unless we shift to a 451 or a 433…
July 14, 2009 at 18:46
We dont have any wingers at all. Noone on the right and noone on the left. They are all attacking midfielders Nasri, Arshavin, Rosicky, and theo is a striker, Eboue is a right back at best. Traore is a left back but has a great cross.
We dont need a left winger as such, more like we just need a left footed player in midfield.
July 14, 2009 at 18:47
Think guys, with the money of ade, we could have a good transfermarket this summer. Matuidi and…….
We will see in the coming days.
July 14, 2009 at 18:47
we aint goin 451, I think 4-2-3-1
Back 5 is a given
Cesc-Matuidi
Hazard/Theo-Nasri-Arshavin
RVP/Eddie
July 14, 2009 at 18:48
How about david Silva and Matuidi from the Ade trust fund?
July 14, 2009 at 18:48
Anyone else get the feeling that Man City are trying to buy at least one player from each of the top 4 as a sort of way of sending a message. They have signed Tevez (although not technically a Utd player) which prevented man utd making that deal permanent, they are about to sign Ade from us. It looks like Terry wants to go from Chelsea & no doubt they’ll go after either Alonso or Mascherano with a massive bid near the end of the transfer market.
July 14, 2009 at 18:49
Whats SIlva’s price tag. 20 million, dont think so…
July 14, 2009 at 18:49
Why does everyone keep going on about Matuidi?? If he is the level of player we’re looking at then I pity us really. We need better quality than that.
July 14, 2009 at 18:49
GMR- I dont think so mate. I just think top 4 have the best players is all
July 14, 2009 at 18:50
GMR- WHo then? Melo is gone. Cana is not better, inler im told is a one season wonder.
July 14, 2009 at 18:50
Actually forget that Silva’s had injury problems. Stu after overmars we never had traditional wingers. We don’t head the ball as we play on the ground so the width that they offer is not useful.
July 14, 2009 at 18:50
tevez is a mercenary End of…
he strikes me as a sort of journeyman much like anelka
July 14, 2009 at 18:51
Im not saying I disagree, but what are our options. TOulalan would cost way too much and he wants to stay with Lyon cuz of world cup next year
July 14, 2009 at 18:51
GMR, matuidi is quality, but you don’t follow the french league and his name is not popular so he is bad. NO HE IS VERY GOOD!!!!!!!! YOU WILL SEE!!!!
July 14, 2009 at 18:52
Suggest a player who’s available for that position then GMR.
July 14, 2009 at 18:52
Guys, who do you think we will sign with the ade money, realistic please???????
July 14, 2009 at 18:53
i don’t think so rohan… he was treated like shite by fergie
July 14, 2009 at 18:53
Tevez’s situation was much like Flamini’s. Both had been promised contracts at certain times, but both clubs waited last minute.
July 14, 2009 at 18:54
ifwe dont spend atleast 18million of the 25 million form ade’s transfer, i will be mightily disappointed….
July 14, 2009 at 18:54
Dutchman-realistically
1. Matuidi
2. Either another striker, I dont think he’ll sign Chamakh, or another CB (Bassong, Hangeland).
July 14, 2009 at 18:56
He’ll spend. We need a tad bit more quality and depth
July 14, 2009 at 18:56
Dutchman – please don’t try & tell me what leagues I do & don’t follow. You know nothing about me & I wouldn’t presume to know what leagues you follow.
July 14, 2009 at 18:56
yea but tevez wasnt exactly first choice for them like flamini was for us and hence i doubt his departure is going to make as big an impact
July 14, 2009 at 18:57
i think just one more defensive player, regardless of the money we receive
July 14, 2009 at 18:58
Also where did I say Matuidi was bad?? I just said I pity us if that is the quality of player we’re looking at. His name has been around for at least two years now & none of the bigger clubs has looked to him when they want a defensive midfielder which tells you a lot.
July 14, 2009 at 18:58
I hope Wenger has got something big planned when Ade goes, I mean something really substantial.
I’m a big believer that part of the reason that we’ve struggled in recent years is Wenger being a boring sod in the transfer window and dampening the spirits of our squad morale by bringing in unproven youth.
He then blames the media for being negative!
C’mon Wenger, buy some proven class for once.
July 14, 2009 at 18:58
I do think the same luke. But i hope(realistic)that it become this. adebayor 25m
senderos 5m
in affelay 12
matuidi 6
bassong 12
July 14, 2009 at 18:59
We should sign Wentermann as out utility player. He can play anywhere in defence or midfield. Not sure how much he would cost tho.
July 14, 2009 at 18:59
ideally i’d buy
matuidi 7million
hangeland while getting rid of toure for a net of 5 million
hazard for 8 million
and if were in the mood, someone like marcus berg
July 14, 2009 at 18:59
Good riddance to bad shit cant wait till he comes back in the citeh shirt a nice warm welcome awaits? you money grabbing useless cunt!!Whats the bet AW will try to sign peter crouch 2.5 mill a bargain buy if i ever saw one!!
July 14, 2009 at 19:00
Lads fuck off with Bassong, He is shite! Why else did he get relegated. A good defender can go a long way to helping a team avoid relegation. He was always all over the place.
July 14, 2009 at 19:00
He wont spend 12 on Bassong. Way too much for Wenger. Never seen affelay play but heard great things.
July 14, 2009 at 19:01
Or Martens of Newky Brown!
July 14, 2009 at 19:01
Luke – as for who, how do I know?? I’m not paid 5 million a year to keep track of players all over the world with an army of scouts at my disposal. What I do know though is that Matuidi wouldn’t bring any more experience to the team than we already have in Song or Denilson.
July 14, 2009 at 19:01
Guys, we all know that he will sign Matuidi and Chamakh and that will be all. And Toure will probably leave. Just don’t expect Hazard, Cana, Huntelaar or Hangeland, Juhasz, etc, because they don’t arrive. We all know the old man, he won’t change. Funny, that when those players will arrive( Mat. and Chamakh), everyone will be excited and we all start that this team looks promising. Well, my beloved mates,even with them, we are still not good enough. And Chamakh scoring ability and ratio is even worse than Ade’s. Arsene will never work. But hey, we have still many talented players. As if Diaby, Denilsong, Chamakh will be good enough. Wake up guys!
July 14, 2009 at 19:02
Id get Hangeland and keep Toure though. No reason to sell him. Depth Depth Depth Depth.
July 14, 2009 at 19:02
*Arsene will never learn, sorry.
July 14, 2009 at 19:02
You can bet your life if Ade goes he’ll replace him with Kalou.
July 14, 2009 at 19:03
affellay would be a cracking buy..either him or hazard owuld solve any right wing problems…
July 14, 2009 at 19:03
Maciek – I don’t think we’re signing Matuidi.
It’s made up media nonsense.
A – I heard the interview on French radio about Chamakh, some Arsenal blog found it an posted it. Wenger definitely said he was in for him.
I don’t think we’re signing anyone else, apart from Chamakh. And it really looks to me like Wenger is still the same doddering old fool he was last year. Hopefully, after we get embarrassed again this year, he’ll resign on his own.
July 14, 2009 at 19:03
GMR- My point was we bid for melo and Juve had more money. There isnt another quality CDM out there as far as I know besides toulalan who is staying at Lyon.
July 14, 2009 at 19:04
Ideally the following would happen:
Juhasz 8m
Toualan 14M or Matuidi 6m or Denisov 6m
i’ll play alone Hazard 9m or so.
Out:
Ade 22m
Silvestre 1m
Eboue 5m
Diaby 7m
My mind is a little blank atm so im probably leaving someone obvious out.
July 14, 2009 at 19:05
Im pretty sure I heard Lyon say something around 20-22 million for toulalan…sorry to rain on the parade, I want him bad too
July 14, 2009 at 19:06
As much as I dislike Adebayor, now that we’re faced with the possibility of him going, I think I’d rather keep him, simply because Wenger will almost certainly sign fucking Chamakh to replace him. That guy is monumentally shite, worse than Darren Bent.
July 14, 2009 at 19:06
Well im trying to be optomistic.
Swap him for Inler so..12m.
July 14, 2009 at 19:07
Luke – No CDM’s that we know is my point. However how much do you know about South American football etc? Wenger knows a significant amount about all areas of the world which is part of his job. I’m sure he can find better quality than Matuidi, who I believe was relegated with his first club & whilst they done ok the season before last they ended up avoiding relegation on the final day this season just gone.
July 14, 2009 at 19:08
Jimbo- He wont sign Chamakh. Arsene used that as a way to attract interest to Ade. If Arsene says something like, if Ade goes, we will buy so and so. That is basically in Arsense language, Ade is for sale. Not necessarily we want Chamakh. Ehhhhh?
July 14, 2009 at 19:08
Or how about Ledesma at Lazio (i think he is still there anyway). Dont know much about him apart from my PES days. Someone from Italy would be nice (not necessarily an italian because they dont travel well).
July 14, 2009 at 19:09
Maciek, this is a wonderfull team,isn’t it??
almunia
sagna,gallas,toure,clichy
fabregas,matuidi,nasri
v persie,eduardo,arhsavin
fabianski
eboue,vermaelen,djourou,gibbs
denilson,song,rosicky
walcott,bendtner/chamakh,vela
and the likes of ramsey,wilshere,diaby
July 14, 2009 at 19:09
GMR- 1. Would you be happy if it was some south american who you never heard of?
2. Matuidi was voted St. Etienne player of the year…tryin to argue his case but I know what you mean
July 14, 2009 at 19:10
lol we wont sign chamakh, I wouldn’t jump to conclusions, this IS wenger we’re talking about
July 14, 2009 at 19:10
Im not to sure about Matuidi either GMR. I think we should be looking for better.
July 14, 2009 at 19:11
25 is too old to still be developing boys, its Wenger! If he was 21, hed be in already.
July 14, 2009 at 19:11
Luke, sorry, I don’t buy that.
How on earth do you KNOW that when Wenger said he’d be interested in Chamakh, he actually meant the opposite?
July 14, 2009 at 19:12
I’m feeling pretty zen about this really, it’s clear that Wenger’s still not got what it takes to put together a competitive squad.
He’s going to drive the club into Usmanov’s arms this season, and hopefully resign along the way. This will be good for us, in the long run.
July 14, 2009 at 19:13
cuz he works in mysterious ways. Obviously I have no evidence, but I just can’t see him bringing in someone like Chamakh. Same age as Ade only worse…uhhh come on. I know he is crazy sometimes but he isn’t that crazy
July 14, 2009 at 19:13
How often in the last few years has Wenger stuck by his word? He lies all the time. And i hope he is still up to those tricks when he said he was interested in Chanakh.
July 14, 2009 at 19:13
my point exactly stu
July 14, 2009 at 19:14
Yeah Jimbo. I agree. Being owned by Usmanov so he can plunge us into massive debt while losing one of the best managers in the world (regarless of what he has won recently). Thats the best for everyone right.
July 14, 2009 at 19:14
If wenger buys chamakh and nothing more, then we go outside the top 4. We must bu a good DM!! So wenger, if you spend you’re 30 million then I would be very happy, but if you spend 7 million of the 30million on chamakh I am really pissed!! You have another 23 million!!! For hazard,matuidi,affelay,hangeland etc.
July 14, 2009 at 19:14
Chamakh is definately coming IMO.
It’s all very reminiscient of the Nasri replacing Hleb transfer.
July 14, 2009 at 19:14
dont jump to conclusions Jimbo. The season isnt over. We dont even have Ade money.
July 14, 2009 at 19:15
Except Nasri is A great player…
July 14, 2009 at 19:16
Because of course Stu, we don’t have massive debts already.
No, right now we’re just hunky dory.
July 14, 2009 at 19:16
Might be a great talent, not a great player yet.
July 14, 2009 at 19:17
HEy Paulinho, what you thinking on Chamakh coming? I wannna hear your side
July 14, 2009 at 19:18
Luke – I’d have to trust his judgement, I know thats a contradiction after what I’ve said about Matuidi but the difference being that I can’t see he has made much of an impact on Saint Etienne’s results. I know people were against Melo but the Italian media & fans in general thought he played a significant part in getting Fiorentina into the CL places.
I suppose in all honesty I’d rather see us sign a Vieira type player rather than another Flamini type.
July 14, 2009 at 19:18
Either way, I dont think Chamakh is a great talent or a great player
July 14, 2009 at 19:19
It will be fine if we sign chamakh,BUT wenger must spend the other millions to a DM or affelay!!!
July 14, 2009 at 19:20
GMR- PEtit was the more defensive midfielder then viera for us. We need another flamini type
July 14, 2009 at 19:21
Some of you are as ignorant as the media.
Matuidi will be around 10 million.
6? You’re ‘avin a laugh
July 14, 2009 at 19:21
WE CAN”t WIN THE LEAGUE WITH CHAMAKH AND DENILSON IN THE MIDDLE!!! BUT AW IS F***CKING STUBBORN> WOW< I HATE THIS. WENGER MUST SPEND THE ADE MONEY!!!!!!!
July 14, 2009 at 19:22
Luke – again I can’t agree, Petit was better at passing than Vieira & he attacked more than Vieira. Vieira made a big difference in our own penalty box at corners & with free kicks, Flamini didn’t & neither would Matuidi.
July 14, 2009 at 19:22
And Nasri is better than Chamakh, younger, more skillful and Nasri has loads of time to develop(e) his obvious abilities.
July 14, 2009 at 19:22
Dutchman chill out. he doesnt even have it yet
July 14, 2009 at 19:22
Haven’t seen him play Luke. I don’t think he’s as bad a player as everyone is making out, even if his finishing might not be the greatest.
He seems to be better at the other aspects of play than Adebayor so that will be a good thing, and also he won’t be first choice and we don’t need a first choice striker. Vela, RVP, Eduardo, Bendtner are good enough to lead the line imo. Chamakh can just come in and out. It’s not like he’s going to play every game.
Overall, I think he will be the usual Wenger signing. Talented but with irritating flaws.
July 14, 2009 at 19:23
Why spend 7 million for a benchwarmer Paulinho?
July 14, 2009 at 19:24
Thanks Pat. I was just picking a number in the middle. Some reports say he is available for 2.5 so i went more or less half way between 1 and 10. Gowl.
July 14, 2009 at 19:26
Realistically, Im guessing Matuidi would help us as much as Nasri did this season.
July 14, 2009 at 19:26
I don’t know why anyone has this impression that we should go out and spend £7m on a player we know is not, and almost certainly never will be good enough to play for the Arsenal first team.
You want people like Bendtner & Vela chomping at the bit to break through to the Arsenal first team, not muppets like Chamakh who belong at Sunderland. I honestly hope Wenger is fired on the spot if he asks the board for money to sign a player this bad.
July 14, 2009 at 19:27
£7 million ain’t that much Luke, and he might become more involved as the season progresses.
I would rather we buy someone else and in different areas but Wenger usually knows a good forward when he sees it so I think he will be decent.
July 14, 2009 at 19:28
Wiltord level, hopefully.
it’s all pretty deflating though. Hardly a signing to ignite support from the stands.
July 14, 2009 at 19:28
He wont Jimbo. He’s 25, doesnt have the potential. THose are the two things Arsene looks for. Youth and potential. Chamakh doesnt have either. Now why would he bring him in. Makes no sense in Arsene world. What makes more sense is that he used Chamakh to try to ditch Adebayor
July 14, 2009 at 19:29
Luke, I agree, there’s nothing logical in Wenger signing Chamakh. But why did he say he was interested? That#s what scares me.
July 14, 2009 at 19:31
Because Jimbo, those are Arsene’s weird little transfer tactics. When he has money, he says he’s broke, when he wants someone, he says he doesnt, its all a game. I cant remember Arsene ever outright stating “I want so and so” to the public and then signing him. Arsene would argue that if he did so, he would have to pay more. What might happen, is that Arsene would bid like 3 million for him because that wouldnt be bad. Cheap depth. But no way he is going to work hard to try to sign chamakh. its a game
July 14, 2009 at 19:31
Rather than waste money on Matuidi I’d rather Wenger gave JET a chance through pre season to see what he’s made of. If we can’t afford a top quality defensive midfielder than we may as well keep what we have & try one of the youngsters such as JET or Coquelin.
July 14, 2009 at 19:32
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_C3S3Ve_uk&feature=related
Decent goal here. Shows ability to link up and penetrate centrally.
July 14, 2009 at 19:32
We would see what happens in the coming weeks.
Maybe wenger hold this as smokescreen to sign……..??? And matuidi. Wenger will bring in two new faces.
July 14, 2009 at 19:32
Jimbo- Maybe he has another striker in mind and if that striker’s manager things he wants chamakh, he could get striker B for less money…I dont know. You could argue it though and those are Arsenes tactics
July 14, 2009 at 19:36
If I’m Arsene wenger and I want to sell adebayor, then this is what I would do. You cant come right out and say, I want to sell adebayor, if he stays all bad, and I couldnt get as much $ for him if people know I want to sell him. Rather, why not I pulbically say something like, “if Im forced to give up Adebayor, I have a a cheap unknown replacement in mind”. Yea people will believe that. Here comes Man city bidding 25 million. Yay, I win, Arsene is smart. ABout that chamakh, guy thanks but no thanks. good luck youre not for us though.
July 14, 2009 at 19:37
im convinced…
July 14, 2009 at 19:38
lets all hope you lads wont have the pleasure to tell me “I told you so”, and hopefuly well get someone better than the moroccan.
July 14, 2009 at 19:39
chamakh looks great in everything except his finishing!
July 14, 2009 at 19:39
yes hurry up and leave you money grabbing bastard T.T.,
i hope you are as disruptive to the new team every one hates as you were disruptive in our dressing room.
NOW WENGER SPEND THE MONEY!!!!
I really feel if we buy a DM and another CBwe can better last year.
players who want to play for us thats all i ask for.
July 14, 2009 at 19:39
choy, we already have Bendtner to hold down that role. We need a clinical finisher
July 14, 2009 at 19:42
We have Bendtner for everything but finishing and Eduardo for finishing and nothing else. The perfect player.
July 14, 2009 at 19:43
I think they should have tip jars around the emirates to raise transfer money. We could maybe get an extra little bit.
July 14, 2009 at 19:44
luke – we have Eduardo back next season, he will be that clinical finisher!!
July 14, 2009 at 19:44
am just hoping we sell adebayor and then get huntelaar and a ball winner in the middle of the park and i know we can afford both of them
huntelaar £18m
inler £12m
July 14, 2009 at 19:45
AndyB for sure. Eduardo is a fav. But Depth Depth Depth
July 14, 2009 at 19:46
Chamakh looks a bit like a certain ex-manc cunt who joined some other cunts in madrid recently.
July 14, 2009 at 19:46
Dont think the 18 is worth it for huntelaar. He’s slow and Im told he doesnt have confidence or good form right now.
July 14, 2009 at 19:46
I would love Huntelaar up front but i have been convinved that he wouldnt fit our system. And we already have enough forwards as it is. Too many in fact.
But i would like to see Inler. Does anyone here watch serie A much?
July 14, 2009 at 19:47
yeah i know luke..
why does ade need a work permit? do you need it if you were to shift cities?
July 14, 2009 at 19:48
Not udinese
July 14, 2009 at 19:48
Hazard will arrive next season.
Once this Ade goas thru, then we will act in the transfer market.
Would like to see AW pull a signing out of the bag like when Eduardo arrived, David Villa anyone
July 14, 2009 at 19:48
Damn it, where is A when you need him. He posted players clinicalness stats yesterday.
Whatever they were Eduardo was the best. a goal every 2.9 shots in his arsenal career. Legend.
July 14, 2009 at 19:49
hahahah. I was fantasizing about that earlier dave. Big woody
July 14, 2009 at 19:49
I think Huntelaar would be good in our system but am wondering wherre would it leave eduardo
i have a feeling he will get chamakh
Gokhan Inler would be a good signing he is a box to box player agressive
lets sell kolo toure to man city and get zapataa too
July 14, 2009 at 19:52
shabz-the zapata for toure is too much change. remember arsense said 3 new players max because it’ll shake things up in the squad too much. we got vermy, that leaves two. Im expecting some arshavin quality being brought in. I want two 13-15 million dollar valued players. A CDM, and a CB/winger/striker
July 14, 2009 at 19:53
Matuidi is the agressive box to box Im told
July 14, 2009 at 19:53
badey gone
man city website even has him listed as a atriker now
http://arsenalspot.net/2009/07/exclusive-adebayors-name-spotted-on-striker-list-on-city-website/
July 14, 2009 at 19:54
matuidi > Inler FACT
Chamakh is tricky, but we need someone who guarantees goals. He doesn’t.
July 14, 2009 at 19:57
wenger could improve him
he will work like a soldier to improve under his tutelage
he has proper searing pace and movement
bring him on…. this is arsene wenger we are talking about chaps… he knows.
July 14, 2009 at 19:59
http://www.mcfc.co.uk/Players
Fotoshop faceman, look at this!
July 14, 2009 at 19:59
The worst thing about that spoof is that ade is down as from africa. Never knew Africa was a country. ho hum
July 14, 2009 at 19:59
Faceman, thats fake. They have (AFR) next to his name, not TOG. The kid who runs that site is full of bullshit, just a teenager who uses photoshop.
Inler had a shit season, no thank you. Lech poznan dominated the midfield home and away against them(with inler). My polish team didn’t go through, but that was largely due to finishing. Not to mention Udinese has quality up front with Quagiella and Di Natale.
NO to Inler.
If we’re going to spend 10 million on CHamakh, I’d rather we go for Lech Poznan striker Lewandowski. he’s 19 or 20 and already making big headlines.
Sky Sports Scout has him in the same level as Ljajic, the level right under “already world class”
July 14, 2009 at 20:00
I THought Hughes wanted to make this one quick. I dont want to wait anylonger for adebayor’s goodbye.
July 14, 2009 at 20:00
Who thinks we can win the league with buying matuidi and chamakh??? And sell adebayor?? I AM!!!!!!AGREE???
July 14, 2009 at 20:01
With those 2 dutchman? I dont think we would win it.
July 14, 2009 at 20:02
I think we could, but chamakh aint coming. Matuidi probably will and I am expecting a big surprise. SOme name we never heard of.
July 14, 2009 at 20:02
for those who don’t have time to watch Ligue 1, this fellow made 3 decent videos on Chamakh.
http://www.youtube.com/user/bordelaii
He is a Bordeaux fan so ask him if you have any questions. Highlights his intelligence and technical skill, along with his atrocious finishing.
Enjoy.
July 14, 2009 at 20:02
Faceman, I wouldn’t take anything from that site as gospel.
I agree with a few of the other over Chamakh… he just won the league with Bordeaux and was there best striker… Geoff made the point earlier that he can’t be that bad…!
I don’t think we’ll sign him though… centre mid is where we need attention!
July 14, 2009 at 20:02
OK;D luke.
July 14, 2009 at 20:03
ME
July 14, 2009 at 20:03
chamakh is a done deal imo
July 14, 2009 at 20:04
No,faceman. Chamakh isn’t a done deal!
July 14, 2009 at 20:05
Pat… Thierry was intelligent, had great technical ability… and atrocious finishing…
July 14, 2009 at 20:05
he works his ass off… !! that is good enough
July 14, 2009 at 20:05
No way Pedro. Cavenaghi is their best striker.
July 14, 2009 at 20:06
according to the french press it is
July 14, 2009 at 20:07
No, stu. Chamakh was their best striker. He scored 14 goals and adebayor scored 12 in one season. So, why could chamakh not that good???
July 14, 2009 at 20:08
CAn you Give me the site faceman????
July 14, 2009 at 20:09
Guys, check videos about chamakh, he is good!!
July 14, 2009 at 20:09
OMDS jus watched a clip of hazard… he is sickkkkkk
but wat a wenger NOT to sign him.
July 14, 2009 at 20:09
Well Cavengahi scored 15 in 35, Chamakh got 14 in 42. Which do you think is better?
July 14, 2009 at 20:10
l’equipe
July 14, 2009 at 20:15
You look at his goals, he is more skillfull and his workrate is better.
July 14, 2009 at 20:16
he defo has more pace and much much better movement than badey
July 14, 2009 at 20:17
Well he can score all crackers for all i care. His record suggests he is average. He has never been a proper or prolific scorer. I would still rather we not get him.
July 14, 2009 at 20:17
in 1 month and 1 day we will be 1st in the league with three points as we beat everton 4-2
July 14, 2009 at 20:18
What do you mean luke? We are already top of the league. And i doubt a 4-2 would put is there anyway. There are always big wins on the opening day…bigger than a 2 goal win anyway.
July 14, 2009 at 20:19
July 14, 2009 at 20:19
i’m willing to pay 0.01% of hazards trransfer fee…. thats how much i want him at arsenalllllll
July 14, 2009 at 20:20
Well that was shit.
July 14, 2009 at 20:20
July 14, 2009 at 20:22
July 14, 2009 at 20:22
YOU JUST BEEN TANGO-ED!
July 14, 2009 at 20:22
marchod
July 14, 2009 at 20:23
Excuse my spelling *Tango’d
July 14, 2009 at 20:29
Hazard looks a great talent
July 14, 2009 at 20:32
Some prick on goonertalk commented saying glorious Le Grove is known for being shit. He had us in with Arsenal spot and arsenal truth, dickhead! Clearly he is thick and has never been on here (or been allowed on here)
July 14, 2009 at 20:39
Yeah Stu I spotted that too. Chris aint less of a prick himself. Total dickhead.
July 14, 2009 at 20:40
July 14, 2009 at 20:40
The ONLY player we’ve got a really solid link to (from Arsene’s comments) out there at the moment is Chamakh. Hazard, Cana, Aguero and Matuidi are all pretty hopeless links.
July 14, 2009 at 20:43
Gignac would be interesting..
July 14, 2009 at 20:43
You sick fucker ddm….
July 14, 2009 at 20:43
And we’re not linked to Gignac either.
July 14, 2009 at 20:44
Gignac, the fucker, always scored against me in PES. Thats pretty much the only thing i know about him.
July 14, 2009 at 20:45
For some reason i really want mancity to pip manu for 4th, that’ll be a good day.
July 14, 2009 at 20:45
Yeah me too Mayank. I cant imagine why tho…
July 14, 2009 at 20:45
I hoping for either Dani Guiza or Pogrebnyak to be signed as replacements if the deal goes through….
Also a DM(?) and maybe a winger(Afellay)……
July 14, 2009 at 20:47
Guiza? HA! Now he is the definition of a one season wonder.
July 14, 2009 at 20:48
July 14, 2009 at 20:48
I think it’s ’cause it’s the last thing the high and mighty united fans (and a few admirers on LG) would want. It’ll be a kick in the balls to all the idiots who’ve been saying that united is the greatest team n all that.
July 14, 2009 at 20:51
Grovers, I defo see Chamkh coming. To be fair, he is a player that can be a Torres if only he can take a deep breath and finish. He is very good with his ovement, head, runs and dribbles. Perhaps AW knows he can with minimal effort turn him to Henry.. Now that does look like the way our AW will go!
July 14, 2009 at 20:53
What Stu Guiza is class… You see his goals in confed cup?
July 14, 2009 at 20:54
July 14, 2009 at 20:57
July 14, 2009 at 20:58
Samir, that was one goal. And a cross which makes it even worse because it was an accident. Hardly what i would call class. ANd how old is he? Pushing 30 is my giess.
July 14, 2009 at 21:00
Im off for a while….
July 14, 2009 at 21:08
ah forgot about guiza… la liga top scorer last year.
he would be a very good replacement for ade.
He’s 28
July 14, 2009 at 21:14
Since we are all posting Video’s on here…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu7fzg8Xwko
Das how we do it in the dirty…
Also Im excited that if we do Sell BadManYor we had better get a HIGHLY prolific striker…
July 14, 2009 at 21:15
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July 14, 2009 at 21:17
Have we ever been so excited about a player leaving i can’t remember one
July 14, 2009 at 21:28
how much money from the sale of ade (22mil) do u reckon will be re-invested
July 14, 2009 at 21:30
£2.50
July 14, 2009 at 21:31
we better reinvest the lot of it….City will be a good team next year….I’d raid Madrid’s bench for Huntaleer, M. Diara and even that hapless Drenthe as a back up plan incase something happns to walcott or nasri…
It would be nice to have a good deep squad.
July 14, 2009 at 21:32
paul i make you about right mate
July 14, 2009 at 21:35
david id take huntelaar
he would cost less then ade, same age, very good goalscoring ratio and after he’s supposed failure he has a ponit to prove and would be up fo it
id take matuidi after reading about him he sounds very good, other than that id leave it
unless we sell eboue then id also get a back up right back
July 14, 2009 at 21:35
Probably use the money to give Silvestre a pay rise
July 14, 2009 at 21:35
lol david to be honest dirty south music just don’t do it for me. to be honest that video makes me ashamed to be a hip hop fan. TI or even wayne are brilliant examples of the south but this is straight up dudu in my eyes
July 14, 2009 at 21:41
all dirtyb south is shit along with ti and lil wayne in fact all us hip hop is waste
chamkh goal return in last 6 years in 1in4 in the french lge not sure that is enough to get us excited
July 14, 2009 at 21:45
like i said ti and wayne good EXAMPLES of the south , they have the odd decent song but i like to refer to most us as rap instead of hip hop. that being said there is a place in my music collection for the best “rappers” and another place for the best “hip hop artists” as long as u take them for what they are they can be quite good.
this chamak dude as long as he can stay onside then im happy. i also heard he has a lot of assists and creates space and time for other players but this is all from a french football fan on a forum so take with a pinch
July 14, 2009 at 21:45
lol
What you guys dont understand is that Hip hop is entertainment….its only entertainment…I think its garbage but its funny garbage!
Mark what you said about Ade makes sense….1 goal in 2 games striker…who needs that hmm?
And some say that Bendy is on the same level as Ade…forgetting that the LazyTogoan was scoring against Villareal and Bendy was scoring against Sheffield United.
Honestly to think people dont want Ade replaced and say bendy is the same level is so shocking it is disgusting….
July 14, 2009 at 21:49
Imo the comment Wenger made about Chamakh was planted as a clever decoy to deflect the press and other clubs away from his real targets… well I can only hope so because apart from this player being a target man I can not seriously see that he would be any better than the players we already have! Bendtner can head the ball and hold it up.. but what we really need is another natural goalscorer because we can not rely on the injury prone Eduardo all season… we need another quality back up striker and imo either Berg or Huntelaar could play alongside RVP, and Bendtner and Eduardo could combine well too.. one holds up the ball and the other finishes… SimpleS!
July 14, 2009 at 21:50
david ive been saying the same all day and been getting accused of being too pesimistic
this year espcially we have to compete
i really thought we would strengthen the squad with experience and real proven quality
and if rumours are to be believed then we aint really doing that
July 14, 2009 at 21:53
Hola guys, on the subject of music… Muse are the winners, on the subject of Ade, ABOUT FOOKING TIME YOU LAZY BASTARD!!!
How about Luis Fabiano as a replacement, not my ideal choice but a mate mentioned him and i wanted to know what you guys thought
July 14, 2009 at 21:54
There’s no way we will sign Huntelaar in my opinion. He’s far too expensive. I would like it if we did, but i doubt it very much
July 14, 2009 at 21:54
can somebody please explain to me why Adebayor needs another work permit.
July 14, 2009 at 21:56
Treze13.. Reports suggest that Luis Fabiano is due to sign for AC Milan so he doesn’t seem to be an option for us!
July 14, 2009 at 21:57
Treze13, I think Fabiano is a top player but he is on his way to Milan.
July 14, 2009 at 21:58
gooner786, No idea but i would assume that his current one will be running out at some point during the period for which Man City wish to contract him for, so therefore they want to make sure he will be elligible for the whole period of any impending contract
July 14, 2009 at 21:58
fabiano going milan
stuttgart gave had 16.2 mil bid for huntelaar accepeted and madrid president confirmed the deal is close, if we match that bid he would jump at chance to join us
i think ade needs another permit due to the fact its every 4 years is up for renewal, its standard procedure and should be ok
July 14, 2009 at 21:59
In which fantasy world are we saying that Bendtner would take over no no…
Agreed Mark…
Proven finished Quality is what we need and what was indeed promised….
Huntaleer should be affordable because Madrid HAVE to sell…you are only allowed 25 players currently they have about 33??
And with that Strike force going forward there isnt room for Huntaleer? He came off the bench last season.
July 14, 2009 at 22:01
MARK GOONER, 16.2M? really?
Fuck me i would love to get him, and that’s not massively out of Wenger’s price range.
It’s doubtful but hey we can dream.
July 14, 2009 at 22:01
we should have got benzema at the start of the summer before madrid started going mental he would have joined and its only for a couple mil more then ade’s is
i think he will end up being the next big striker in world football
July 14, 2009 at 22:01
Honest Bill thanks mate.
July 14, 2009 at 22:01
oh, nevermind then… wow i cant really think of any quality strikers in our price range of lets assume £25m Villa, Aguero, Torres, Etoo etc. all are way out of that… Goran Pandev anyone?
July 14, 2009 at 22:03
luis Fabiano?
Not impressive finisher imo…he is the worst number 9 brazil have had in a long while…the game against the USA? And Against Italy? He shouldve had easy hatricks…but that being said…when he did miss a sitter he shut me up quick and replied my doubts…but id rather have someone who scores now and not need 800 chances to score we have plenty of those.
July 14, 2009 at 22:04
MARK GOONER. Benzema would have been nice, but you can’t really spend what you don’t have.
July 14, 2009 at 22:04
Mark…lyon wouldve never sold Benzema for anything less than 30 mill….
At one point werent we after Ben Arfa? What happned to that?
July 14, 2009 at 22:05
Huntelaar on a seasons loan…. Thats the whispers that the voices in my head are chatting about….
Pipe down in there you bastards!!!
July 14, 2009 at 22:06
Yes, lets spunk £30 mill on an unproven 21 year old, we really dont have enough kids in the squad… just what we needed…
July 14, 2009 at 22:07
Toronotdan, you old racist! How have you managed to travel forward in time???
July 14, 2009 at 22:07
Hey Mangoonian, ask the voices if the portents are good for us signing Ribery in a straight swap for Eboue
July 14, 2009 at 22:08
MARK GOONER, I think that Benzema once said that he would only leave France for either Italy or Spain, the latter being his first choice.
July 14, 2009 at 22:12
Honest Billybob;
They all say you must be effin crackers if you think thats likely!
Whats that mother? You want me to do what? …. To who?
July 14, 2009 at 22:12
not that bothered about what wenger does with strikers. if he buys fine, if he doesn’t fine, I will trust him. i dont like the look of chamakh but if he gets him fine, lets see what he can do – we know we have class in Arsh and Eduardo, RVP and Nik, so no worries.
surely far far bigger concerns still surround whether wenger is still trying for a DM. for me we simply cannot even hope to win the PL with the current DMs of Den and Song. Inler or Matuidi would be good, but we absolutely need someone good.
think we are OK at the back providing we are not losing players. Eboue and Toure still have question marks over them. senderos may go but I dont think we need to replace him if that happens – silvestre already is that man.
July 14, 2009 at 22:12
Evening all,
David, Too right, i’ve been saying we should have signed Huntelaar for years & even better now he’s got a point to prove!
Ade is a good player but we’ll win nothing with him, just far to wasteful for a top class team!
July 14, 2009 at 22:15
ManGoonian. Well at least your voices are quite discerning. Can they recommend a good player for us? Or don’t they have access to youtube?
July 14, 2009 at 22:18
Hey you know what annoys me about TorontoDan? He always has to get the last word in.
July 14, 2009 at 22:19
i really hope that patrick comes out tomorrow and laughs of this bullshit link to the yids
July 14, 2009 at 22:20
According to London Evening Standard Chamakh has only got one more year left on his contract and has a 7M get out clause.
This has got Wenger written all over it.
July 14, 2009 at 22:22
786 if that is the case then he’s as good as ours
July 14, 2009 at 22:22
but we did sign up ade last year on an extension.. why the fook would he not have a work permit?
July 14, 2009 at 22:24
Choy. Maybe city want him on a five year deal and his permit runs out before then, so they want to renew. I don’t know really.
July 14, 2009 at 22:25
poor old chamakh has been called a greaseball at least 8 times
and all by toronto dan
July 14, 2009 at 22:25
Ade’s work permit ran out when he put in f-all work last season.
July 14, 2009 at 22:25
any u guys goin barnet on sat
July 14, 2009 at 22:29
I thought work permits have to be applied for every year, is that correct…
yeah its true,
Oh OK, thanks,
dont mention it,
alright I wont then,
oi, theres no need for that attitude… What attitude?
You know perfectly well what Im taking about…
fuck off,
no, you fuck off…
uh oh…
July 14, 2009 at 22:30
I’d have Huntelaar in a heartbeat. Stuttgart have only agreed a fee with Madrid. Apparently Huntelaar’s agent said nothing has been discussed with them.
Personally, if i was Huntelaar, i wouldnt be too pleases about my club selling me and not telling me first. Thats bad mojo.
July 14, 2009 at 22:30
anyone want to bet a tenner that toronto dan calls chamakh a greaseball in the next 2 mins
July 14, 2009 at 22:31
ManGoonian. Leave it mate, he ain’t worth it
July 14, 2009 at 22:32
Hello gents, long-time lurker here. Let me put my vote in for Berg > Chamakh… I can’t be bothered with the greaseball.
July 14, 2009 at 22:32
Am i the only one who can see Toronto days comment at the end of the page? Because every comment coming in is before his even tho his is there ages.
July 14, 2009 at 22:32
I’m going, MG, YAY!!!
July 14, 2009 at 22:32
*dans
July 14, 2009 at 22:33
Never mind…..
all is well.
July 14, 2009 at 22:33
Mark Gooner;
Stu;
Didnt you see my hilarious comment a\bout TDan being an old racist and being a time traveller???
Come on man! Sort it out…
July 14, 2009 at 22:34
July 14, 2009 at 22:34
What MG, your so confusing….
July 14, 2009 at 22:35
huntelaar stats ARE QUALITY
TOP TOP DRAW
175 GOALS IN 265 GAMES FOR CLUB AND 13 FOR 21 FOR COUNTRY
July 14, 2009 at 22:35
HB;
Thanks fella. Things got a bit out of hand then… managed to chill things out, we are all off down the pub now, its Jimmy’s round…
No its not!
Oh fuck…
July 14, 2009 at 22:36
Yeah MARK GOONER. If we could get him for 16M i’d bite their hands off
July 14, 2009 at 22:37
We should have bought him last Jan and saved all this trouble because the mancs will probably get him now.
July 14, 2009 at 22:38
in wat way stu
July 14, 2009 at 22:39
lol Mark, i means MG as in ManGoonian….i’ll just call him Manc from now on to keep things clear.
July 14, 2009 at 22:43
Huntelaar would be a mint signing Stu… some say he lacks pace but you only require sharpness of mind to be a truly great goalscorer! Lineker always found space in the area to score loadsa goals and he wasn’t the fastest over 10 yards.. plus I think he’s more likely to fit in with us than he ever did with Madrid… look how he has been so discarded by them! It echoes the Bergkamp situation before he sign for us… he hardly had a great season with Inter before we snapped him up and then his performance just excelled.. and I think Wenger would inspire him to come to a club where he would be loved again but on a much bigger scale than before once he gets going!
July 14, 2009 at 22:43
thats a bit harsh stu no one deserves to be called that
July 14, 2009 at 22:45
Yeah Stu, you git! Thats a low blow….
Why I oughtta….
July 14, 2009 at 22:45
redbearer. I agree mate. You don’t need blistering pace to be a great goalscorer. Especially since the majority of teams we play ‘park the bus’ Good positional sense and great finishing is enough, which he has in abundance
July 14, 2009 at 22:45
there aint many if not any strikers in the world that ARE available and WITHIN our price range that can boast a goal scoring ratio like that albeit in holland
July 14, 2009 at 22:50
We just gotta gamble on Huntelaar.. it makes so much sense to me… a couple of clinical finishers will make all the difference next season.. I’m so sure that that is the reason why we failed to kill teams off in the last campaign… we always make the chances but on a lot of occasions we just failed to take them!
July 14, 2009 at 22:50
But the problem is – who do we get rid of if we sign Huntelaar? Because even without Ade we still have plenty of forwards and they will all want (and deserve) games.
July 14, 2009 at 22:51
Evening all!
July 14, 2009 at 22:52
Stu, they can be gradually introduced in to the team. Many of them can play in different positions. Ade leaving has left another space, and one we need to fill with someone who can get goals
July 14, 2009 at 22:53
I would have Huntelaar down as a world class player…maybe a level below simply because he isnt all action.
But his goal scoring ability means he would get at least 20+ a season. I think for Madrid he had 8 goals in 27 shots or something. (A posted it last night for anyone who is anal enough to go check).
But as i already said, if he came in i think someone else would have to leave. He is the world class player we need up front, just like we need a world class DM and defender.
July 14, 2009 at 22:53
Evening Pedro
July 14, 2009 at 22:54
we will have bendtner huntelaar rvp eduardo
and vela, theo, aa can all play there if needed
i think that is a perfect amount
July 14, 2009 at 22:55
Another problem with Huntelaar is that he and Eduardo are very similar. The difference being favoured foot and physique. Eddie is the smallie who finds spaces and Hunter being the giant who can score any kind of forwards goal.
Dare i say tho that Eduardo is more clinical but Huntelaar is definately the better goalscorer.
July 14, 2009 at 22:55
We are telling you, if you’ll effin listen, Huntelaar is comin on loan, we dont need to splash the cash on a striker.
We need the money for additions to other areas; the snooker table in the players lounge needs a new baize, the tiles in the dressing room need grouting and we have run out of McCoys crisps in the snack dispenser…
July 14, 2009 at 22:55
Evening Bill!
Mark, Huntelaar?
July 14, 2009 at 22:56
Mang… really… or we hope?
July 14, 2009 at 22:56
Come to think of it Huntelaar is like Eduardo in Bendtners body.
July 14, 2009 at 22:56
I’d rather have van Nistlerooy…
Yeah, I said it! Who wants to make sumfin of it….?
July 14, 2009 at 22:57
Pedro;
Its a definite mate.
We are getting….. new McCoys! Woo Hoo!
July 14, 2009 at 22:57
bentdner not ready and not expecting to start most games, same for vela who can also play on left, rvp and aa are 2nd strikers leavin only dudu as the only striker who is in his prime
i think like u he will get 20 goals plus and that alone is reason to buy him
July 14, 2009 at 22:57
Huntelaar is so slow!
July 14, 2009 at 22:59
Mang, if they are those new spicy prawn ones… I’m backing the move!
If it is Huntelaar… leave him for Stuttgart… too slow, too lazy…
July 14, 2009 at 22:59
Did I say he was slow?
July 14, 2009 at 22:59
I guess your name fits then, doesnt it Manc.
July 14, 2009 at 23:02
stu that is exactly wat he is
pedro just talking bout huntelaar as he has been linked and as stuttgart have had and 16 mil bid accepted that would put him within budget and enough cash spare to get matuidi
sounds far to perfect
probably end up being chamakh for half that amount who has a ratio of less then 1 in 4 compared to huntelaar’s amazing stats (see above 10.35 my post)
July 14, 2009 at 23:02
Yep a replacement is needed for Ade and Huntelaar fits the goalscoring mould which we’ve been looking for without the high maintainance shite which the TT would crack off every so often! Then we can bring in a DM and a right winger or even another centre back.. the money must be there if Wenger was reportedly willing to pay at least 15 mil on Melo… so you do the math, 25 mil for Ade ++ = 2 or 3 players more who want to play for our great club!
July 14, 2009 at 23:03
You bastard Stu… I hate you, dont talk to me, ever again… We are finished, you’re gonna have to move out… And DONT even think about taking the Take That CDs either…
Pedro;
Huntelaar is too slow, I am not sure that has been mentioned yet..?
July 14, 2009 at 23:05
Mark, Chamone looks very fast, pretty good in the air and he has a physical presence.
Finishing can be worked on…
Hunter hasn’t interested anyone who was looking for a striker… Milan, ManU, Man City… and Madrid are binning him after 6 months. Says a lot if you ask me…
July 14, 2009 at 23:07
Well Manc, i didnt want to say this but i lied! Its not me, it IS you! You are too hormonal! Always getting emotional. And you can have your shite take that CDs…i have my ipod so fuk you!
July 14, 2009 at 23:07
Bendy will be better than Huntelaar…
(Heehee, that comment is bound to inflame a few of the idiots on here! I am soooo devilishly wicked. Its a good thing that by putting comments in brackets makes em invisible to everyone but me…Mwoohaaahaaahaahaahaa!)
July 14, 2009 at 23:07
Oh and Take That? HA!
July 14, 2009 at 23:08
Spot on Manc, one thing you have gotten right. Bendtner will be better that Huntelaar…maybe he is better right now. But he will never be a better goalscorer imo.
July 14, 2009 at 23:08
Rubbish Huntelaar will adapt… too slow!>?
The fella scores loadsa goals more than most players have ever dream about and his goals per game ratio proves that.. and that doesn’t sound slow to me!!
July 14, 2009 at 23:11
huntelaar or chamakh
winner gets signed tomorrow
get voting
July 14, 2009 at 23:11
Redbearer;
I agree, Huntelaar IS rubbish. Well done fella
(Heeeheee, I really made that red fella look a right dumb ass then!)
July 14, 2009 at 23:12
Huntelaar every mili-second over Chamakh!
July 14, 2009 at 23:13
Stu;
So, who gets to keep the red leather vest and pants set?
July 14, 2009 at 23:14
I have never seen Chamakh play, but feel qualified enough to state he is the best striker in the world right now…
July 14, 2009 at 23:14
rvp and huntelaar would be a nice pairing i think, only problem is that i want to see eduardo play in every game
July 14, 2009 at 23:15
ManGoon… v good
Seriously though this Chamakh chap will also be off in January to play in the African Nations Cup so it doesn’t seem logically wise to me!
July 14, 2009 at 23:16
It’s all about positioning and intelligence. With players like Cesc and Arshavin picking you out with passes, you don’t need to be particularly fast. I think he would get a fair few goals. And that is what you want from a striker. We no longer get the opportunity to play quick counter attacking in most games so we need someone who can finish chances when he gets them. Huntelaar could be that man.
Although we haven’t been linked with him, or anyone for that matter. So at this point it is just wishful thinking.
Besides i think we should play Eboue up front.
July 14, 2009 at 23:20
Spot on Bill.. the quality midfield support will make the difference… I also keep hearing that this Chamakh bloke is good at headering the ball but we don’t really use the wide men to get airbourne crosses into the box like our teams do.. we prefer to play quality football on the desk and that is when Huntelaar will be at his best in the box to finish off most fine moves aka Wengerball
July 14, 2009 at 23:20
Goodnight you crazy kids!!!
Oh and all you lot on here too.
July 14, 2009 at 23:20
have juve anounced melo yet?
July 14, 2009 at 23:21
MG, you can have them as long as i get the TV. Deal?
July 14, 2009 at 23:21
HB… if pace wasn’t an issue, I’m pretty sure Shevchenko would have done ok over here.
Pace and power is everything in the Premiership… Huntelaar can have all the intelligence he likes… but he’s too slow for Spain, and too slow for the Prem.
If he was good enough, ManU would have snapped him up as part of the Madrid deal.
July 14, 2009 at 23:21
Huntelaar’s going to Stuttgart.
He’s a bit slow, and doesn’t have much technique, but I’d take him over Chamakh any day of the week.
Good signing for Stuttgart though, well done them.
And it’s sad that we have to envy clubs like that.
July 14, 2009 at 23:21
*like most team in the Prem do! + on the deck!
July 14, 2009 at 23:23
Pedro,
Huntelaar is a bit of a sub-RvN type player. Similar, and I think he’d still get goals in this league, but he’s not as good as RvN was.
July 14, 2009 at 23:23
I’ve been watching Huntelaar for several seasons now. He doesn’t have much in the way of link-up play but, give him a ball in or at the edge of the box and he is very good at putting it in the net. He’s also not a bad header of the ball. He would score more for us than say half man, half ox, Carlos Tevez would. And he’s Dutch and the dutch have something about them as footballers.
July 14, 2009 at 23:24
Perhaps we should sign Kezman or Alves… also exceptional scorers in the dutch league…
Oh yes… I’m resting my case.
Jimbo, I’d be a fiver that we don’t replace Ade…
July 14, 2009 at 23:25
Jimbo… he doesn’t have the aggression horse face has either…
July 14, 2009 at 23:26
I certainly agree with you on the dutch league Pedro, christ, I think I could bloody score 30 a season there!
But not everyone who scores lots in the dutch league flops – like RvN for example!
I’ll take your bet though mate – the only player I think we’ll sign is Chamakh, and I think we’d be better off holding onto our dosh, so I’d be slightly happier to lose it!
July 14, 2009 at 23:26
Pedro.. Shevchenko unfortunately played for the Chavs and without too much disrespect to them… they do not play one touch football as good as our game.. hence this is why I believe he flopped + a severe lack of confidence in a team full of super egos!
July 14, 2009 at 23:27
The nest thing about Huntelaar, and also the thing that none of our current squad offers us, is that he will probably never leave the box. Eduardo may be the coolest cat in the box but he likes to get involved with the build up…like every striker we have does.
But Huntelaar would be on the end of everything in the box. How often do we see the ball flash across the 6 yard box and noone within 15 yards of it. Its fucking annoying.
July 14, 2009 at 23:27
Pedro. I dunno about that. I mean there could be many factors which contributed to Shevchenko’s poor form.
Owen’s not particularly quick these days but Man Utd decided to snap him up, and Berbatov.
Don’t get me wrong, a quick and intelligent forward is far superior, but pace isn’t the only thing. As for whether he could adapt to the premiership. I dunno i guess we can only speculate. But i can’t think of a better finisher who’s within our price range
July 14, 2009 at 23:27
They are interviewing a security guy…
‘Is there anywhere you shouldn’t have camera’s’
‘Well, in cubicles of toilets… but if people were burning toilets down… we’d have to reassess.’
July 14, 2009 at 23:28
HB, I can think of a better finisher who is on the books and pretty much single handedley fired his country to the Euro’s…
July 14, 2009 at 23:31
But what if Eduardo is injured for most of the season… will Vela be able to step up?!
July 14, 2009 at 23:31
Very true Pedro – we’ve actually got the most clinical finisher in Europe!
July 14, 2009 at 23:32
Redbearer… what if Cesc is injured most of the season… do we need a 16mill replacement for him as well?
July 14, 2009 at 23:32
What if anyone is injured most of the season redbearer?? Why sign anyone – they could be injured most of the season??
I don’t think it’d be Vela who stepped up anyways, in my eyes the front three will most likely consist of VP, Eduardo, and Arshavin, and after that it’d be Bendy and Theo, then Vela next.
July 14, 2009 at 23:32
Cesc was injured half last season and we replaced hiim by playing Denilsong. Nice!
July 14, 2009 at 23:33
A… he’s not just clinical… he’s a giver as well!
15 goals and 6 assists in his first stint… that is pretty damn good.
July 14, 2009 at 23:33
Yeah Pedro, i agree. But he is but one player. We can’t rely on him being fit for 38 games. Another signing to replace Ade would afford us more depth.
It’s possible that our current strikers can do an adequate job, but i don’t see the harm in replacing Ade since we will have some money.
Obviously a world class DM is higher on our priority list
July 14, 2009 at 23:34
No we have Arshavin and Cesc in the attacking mid slot but if both were out we would be pretty fooked!
July 14, 2009 at 23:34
I thought everyone had agreed that Huntelaar is wayyyyyyy too slow for us, and his all round game isn’t good enough, however great a finisher he is??
July 14, 2009 at 23:35
Nasri and Rosicky redbearer??
July 14, 2009 at 23:35
We’ve got loads of striking options Bill…
RvP
Eduardo
Bends
Vela
Theo
Arshavin
Cesc
… Simpson
July 14, 2009 at 23:36
Not really A. You just said it and we didnt disagree so we could avoid a long debate.
Shite new razz smiley. shitty wordpress
July 14, 2009 at 23:37
Redbearer… so only 4 players to replace Cesc… and 6 to replace Eduardo if he gets injured.
A 16mill striker would cause loads of problems.
It’s one of the few positions I am happy with… goals aren’t a problem… defending is.
July 14, 2009 at 23:37
Everyone was saying it Stu the other day, I came on into the middle a debate where the general consensus was that he’s too slow but there were one or two saying we should sign him!
July 14, 2009 at 23:37
Yes A.. they can do a job there too but seem to be tied to the left flank more than AA or Cesc… but with Wilshere coming through then I would expect Wenger to move one of them inside so yeah good call.
July 14, 2009 at 23:38
A… too slow… too obvious.
July 14, 2009 at 23:38
Agreed Pedro, I’m looking to tomorrow Ade sealing the city switch, then matuidi being signed, what a day it could be!
July 14, 2009 at 23:39
bergkamp, henry, kanu, wiltord 01-02
bergkamp, henry, reyes, kanu, 03-04
every top team needs 4 top forwards
July 14, 2009 at 23:40
True Pedro, but only one of them has a record of clinical finishing. And we still don’t have a left winger so i can see Arhavin playing there more often than up front.
Admittedly we do have a lot of options up there, but no real out and out strikers except Eduardo, and Bendtner.
I don’t think it would hurt to buy someone there. Obviously Eto’o or Villa are preferable, but somewhat unattainable
July 14, 2009 at 23:40
Eduardo, Van Persie, Arshavin…Bendtner?
July 14, 2009 at 23:41
A, that’s what I’m hoping for… I’d be happy with the summers business then and confident of a sustained challenge.
Mark we’ve got more than that.
Plus… if it was now… we’d all be slagging Wiltord and Kanu off for not scoring enough goals.
July 14, 2009 at 23:41
Depends on the system red – in 4-4-2 Arshavin can’t play centrally in the midfield, Nasri maybe could, prob not, Rosicky likewise. We’re gonna play 4-2-3-1 though, Arshavin will be out wide left, Cesc and one of Rosicky and Nasri centrally, Wilshere will prob play centrally too, maybe Merida too if Wenger considers him as being ready this season
July 14, 2009 at 23:41
… and I wouldn’t class a wide player as a forward.
July 14, 2009 at 23:42
stu i dont really see AA as a striker, more like a pires
July 14, 2009 at 23:44
I dont like the idea of Arshavin being anywhere but the middle actually. I know he did a brilliant job on the left since arriving but i would just prefer him in the middle pulling the strings. He is our best option there imo.
But how do you leave Rosicky and VP out?
July 14, 2009 at 23:45
I see Arshavin more in the bergkamp mould than Pires. A fast, small Bergkamp-ish.
July 14, 2009 at 23:45
Stu, Yeah but who coulD PLAY BETTER ON THE LEFT?
July 14, 2009 at 23:46
Hmm I still have the opinion that if a team scores first then there is the advantage there to go on and win but obviously defensively we still have to make a priority signing in there too. But who will it be if Matuidi or Cana are not snapped up… maybe Wenger doesn’t rate either of them otherwise he would probably have signed one of them up by now! Any proposed Melo deal fell through so what’s Wenger to do next? He may even stick with what we’ve got but like most of us I too would find this unacceptable. So a DM, CB, Striker & even another winger won’t go a miss… and the money must be there to sign them if Ade goes!
July 14, 2009 at 23:46
Wasn’t being emphatic. Caps Lock was an accident
July 14, 2009 at 23:47
I know Bill. But i dont think its fair on Arshavin that he is playing out of his best position because noone else can play on the left.
Its the curse of being versatile.
July 14, 2009 at 23:47
In 03/04 Bergkamp got 4 goals, Wiltord 3, Reyes 2!!
July 14, 2009 at 23:49
lol Bill. I just thought you just passionate about your opinion. Emphasising(sp) it.
July 14, 2009 at 23:50
Stu, yeah but screw fair. He’s getting to play for Arsenal and doing a damned good job on the left. Wenger might just be tempted to leave him there, since we have lots who want to play SS
July 14, 2009 at 23:51
I would almost compae Arshavin on the left to when Rafa played Gerrard on the right. Both are better in the middle but still do a good job out wide.
July 14, 2009 at 23:52
I expect Arshavin to do for us on the left next season what Henry does for Barca from there, if not more
July 14, 2009 at 23:53
IMO Eduardo and Arshavin together will contribute to 50 goals between them. At least.
20/20 for arshavin? I dont see why not.
July 14, 2009 at 23:54
*provided both stay fit all season.
July 14, 2009 at 23:55
I’d agree there Stu – Can’t wait to see them play together!
July 14, 2009 at 23:55
Yeah i suppose we have a couple of options on the left.
Vela, and Gibbs can play there pretty effectively. I’m not sure if Nasri is suited to playing out there. Hey i’m not complaining. It’s a pretty nice dilemma to have.
July 14, 2009 at 23:58
Nite all… let’s hope we start negotiating to bring in these quality players (well those affordable ones which are left) soonest!
July 14, 2009 at 23:58
Adebayor will be one of, if not the, top scorer next season.
Doesnt make a difference to him where he does it but he’ll do it.
July 14, 2009 at 23:59
Howdy all, has Ade gone yet?
July 15, 2009 at 00:00
AA23. I wouldn’t be surprised at all.
July 15, 2009 at 00:00
AA23… that is a bold statement… I completly disagree. Without the comfort blanket of Arsenal, I think he’s going to look distinctly ordinary and I think he might struggle to get games.
Night redbearer
July 15, 2009 at 00:01
Or he’ll lose his place to Santa Cruz and be gone at xmas AA23! Never know what could happen
July 15, 2009 at 00:02
I can only hope that we’ve let him go because the players all fucking hate him, because if its based on his ability, all prejudice aside, we’ve made a mistake.
July 15, 2009 at 00:03
What makes you say that AA23?
July 15, 2009 at 00:04
Wouldn’t say ability AA23, but potential effectiveness he could still have offered us alot. Right decision to let him go though for attitude and personality issues, and for financial reasons!
July 15, 2009 at 00:04
Pedro I’ll put money on him being in the top 3 scorers in the prem this season. The submancs have never struggled for goals Ade will have a field day, mark my words.
July 15, 2009 at 00:04
He was sold because he is a cunt and always causes trouble where ever he plays. The players probably dont hate him, but do realise he isnt good enough to win us anything and resent him because of it.
July 15, 2009 at 00:07
That’s true AA23, they’ve scored alot and should score more this season. It’s whether Ade can keep his place ahead of Santa Cruz though….
July 15, 2009 at 00:07
Ade mightn’t even start for shity. Tevez, Robinho and RSC will start. They also have Benjani, Caicedo, Bojinov, SWP. Ade will have to score in every game to keep his place.
July 15, 2009 at 00:08
Was he in top 3 this season? No. So why would he be in it with more players trying to keep ahead of him? More competition means less chances. Simple.
July 15, 2009 at 00:08
AA23… he’s had one good season. I wouldn’t bet on him being in the top 3 scorers at all… he’d be hard pushed to be in the top 3 scorers at City, let alone anywhere else!
He’s been let go because he lost his drive… his attitude was shite and we foolishly put him on #80k a week…
Good riddance.
His main attribute was hardwork… once that went, he had to go.
July 15, 2009 at 00:11
I think Adebayor is a world class striker, he has scored some truly magical goals, he scares the shit out of even the best defenders and he is a proper horrible player to play against.
I put a lot of our late wins last season , and the previous season too, to Ades “Blatant offsides”. Those marginal offsides stretch a team over a whole game, then before they know it he gets one right or gives someone a gap to run into and its all over.
I know I should hate him and in some ways I do, but on form he’s one of the best there is.
July 15, 2009 at 00:12
Or if Ethan is to be believed, and i dont see why he would lie, then Ade has really only had a great half season. 19goals in 4months and only 5 after that (in the league of course).
July 15, 2009 at 00:14
But I also agree with Pedro and Stu that there are other factors that are just as important and if he’s making the team worse with his attitude or playing style then he should go.
But I cant pretend he’s a shit player because he just isnt.
July 15, 2009 at 00:14
AA23… Kenwyne Jones scares the shit out of players… and Giovanni scores magical goals… doesn’t make either of them world class.
Ade’s goals dried up in 2008 and ultimately that cost us… and his goals were pretty infrequent this year… he is no where near world class, even on a good day!
July 15, 2009 at 00:15
Im sick of people saying that.
He doesnt scare the shit out of defenders. Whichever defenders said that, JT and someone else, thet said it in 07-08 when he was working his bollocks off for the full 90minutes. But he hasnt played like that in ages…nt since that season in fact.
So to say it like it still applies is wrong imo.
July 15, 2009 at 00:15
AA23. Fair enough but to sell him to a potential rival? That could really come back and bite us in the Arse
July 15, 2009 at 00:16
He does give us something extra physically… but Nik B can replace that if need be.
July 15, 2009 at 00:16
Come on AA23, you’re the first person I’ve ever heard refer to Ade as a world class striker, that’s MASSIVELY over the top!
At best he was an effective striker and goalscorer, but 3 or 4 levels below the top top players. His best EVER season consisted of his scoring 24 league goals, though 6 of which were against west brom, 18 is still very respectable.
We found a system which absolutely maximised his abilities, and he was effective for us, but his actual footballing abilities and overall game is very limited.
July 15, 2009 at 00:17
And AA23, thats not aimed at you alone. So many people say it and it always pissed me off because its just not true…anymore.
July 15, 2009 at 00:18
Justify it any way you like but Arsenal are weaker without the options he gave us.
That’s all I care about.
July 15, 2009 at 00:18
You mean Derby A, not WBA.
And the system that played to his strengths was him being the only striker on the pitch. Thus inevitably(sp) anything going forward was in his direction.
July 15, 2009 at 00:19
Pedro. True there’s nothing really that Nik B can’t offer us, except Ade had a little bit more composure in front of goal. Of course this is something which can easily come for him
July 15, 2009 at 00:19
Ha oh yeah good point stu, just substituted this years whipping boys for the worst team in prem history
July 15, 2009 at 00:20
What options tho AA23?
Bendtner is better in the air, better at linking play, arguably just better at beating his man(but admittedly he aint great either). And since christmas time Bendtner has been working his balls off.
July 15, 2009 at 00:22
I thought we played nicer football when he was out… I think Nik slots into the role better, he has more vision, a better touch and hopefully… this season he’ll gain the composure needed to make it.
July 15, 2009 at 00:23
Eduardo and RvP up front… that excites me!
We’ve missed a striker with the intelligence and instinct of Eduardo.
July 15, 2009 at 00:23
By the way,,,just to expand on that, Bendtner is brilliant in the air. He wins the vast majority of long balls played his way, he has an amazing leap and aint bad at headerererering either.
Im sure ye remember this leap: http://gooners.michaelowl.info/images/divers/07_spurs_bendtner.jpg
And to make it better, he even shit out Jamie O Hara and gave the spuds a new piece of shite.
July 15, 2009 at 00:24
Can only hope so Pedro. If he gains confidence, I ca easily see him becoming a 1 in 2 striker, if not better. But he will need the confidence. Hopefully Ade’s departure will relieve some of the pressure on him
July 15, 2009 at 00:25
I’ve always been a big fan of Bendtner and have defended him many times so no need to convert me there, I love Nik.
Iv’e seen him teake some terrible caning on here though, now he’s better than Ade?
wonder how much of this is sour grapes and coping strategies.
i just think we are worse off without him in the squad and having him in a potential rival (that smashed us senseless last season…) could prove to be a very expensive choice.
July 15, 2009 at 00:25
Lots of things excite me this season Pedro, the composure and intelligence of Eduardo, Arshavin’s brilliance from the start of the season and in all competitions, Rosicky’s creativity and intelligence, all of the above three together linking up! Bendy and Vela’s continued development
July 15, 2009 at 00:25
Interestingly Bendtner has a record of 1 in 2 for Denmark. And thats for the full team, not the kiddies.
July 15, 2009 at 00:25
Hopefully the effect will be similar to the one we saw when Thierry left HB
July 15, 2009 at 00:26
Stu, yeah amazing leap. Not to mention the one against Chelski
July 15, 2009 at 00:27
AA23… I started the Nik B fan club… and I defended Ade most of the season.
I don’t think it’s sour grapes from anyone… we’ll all be pleased to see the back of one of the least popular strikers of the last 20 years.
July 15, 2009 at 00:28
Bendtner may not be our best individual striker but he is certainly the best for partnerships imo. Not sure ho to word that.
But he plays great with whomever he is partnered with. Be it Eduardo before his leg break, Vela briefly last pre season or Arshavin (although they only played up front once – against Pompey)
He has a great understanding with everyone, even Walcott said Nik would be his prefered partner up front.
July 15, 2009 at 00:29
AA23 I always recognised Ade as having an effectiveness and a usefulness, but I thought Bendy was better from the first minute of this season, and expected him to be first choice before xmas but it never happened. Nothing to do with sour grapes, sour grapes about what?!
July 15, 2009 at 00:30
Its only sour grapes when people are sad to see him go and say “well he wasnt that good anyway”. But most have wanted him gone all season so that doesnt aply here.
July 15, 2009 at 00:30
Stu so did VP, he said that Bendtner’s ability to see a pass is amazing, he sees things that other players just can’t understand how he knew they were there
July 15, 2009 at 00:31
Yeah VP too. Forgot about him.
July 15, 2009 at 00:33
I know many will disagree. But i won’t be surprised if Bendtner is first choice striker this season
July 15, 2009 at 00:33
Never heard anyone say they enjoy playing with Ade either, it must be so so frustrating. Can always potentially score a goal, but still would be such a nightmare to play with, so unpredictable and unreliable!
July 15, 2009 at 00:36
I know you are a Nik fan Pedro, ive seen you defending him like crazy on here when others have been absolutely slaughtering him.
Ive always felt the same about him, I think he’ll be top drawer for us and its clear that some of our better players like his style. I hope he can really step up this season.
I predicted him and Walcott to really do the business last season though which proves I know fuck all!
July 15, 2009 at 00:36
The one thing i didn’t like about Ade’s play is that instead of passing to a player he tended to smash it at them as hard as he could
July 15, 2009 at 00:37
… opposed to playing with Eduardo… who must be a dream for a creative player.
July 15, 2009 at 00:37
Wait AA23, Theo with the creativity of Cesc, Arshavin, Rosicky, Nasri, and VP could thrive this season, don’t write him off yet!
July 15, 2009 at 00:39
I hope so A
July 15, 2009 at 00:43
Bendtner wont start but he is 3rd choice imo.
ie Eduardo and VP up front. One gets injured Arshavin is second choice, the other gets injured Bendtner is 3rd choice.
July 15, 2009 at 00:46
Right chaps… it’s been a mad night for me… up at nearly one on a school night.
I’m a lunatic, of that there is no doubt!
Have a good evening!
July 15, 2009 at 00:47
How about if we dont replace Ade, what’s the strike force pecking order?
July 15, 2009 at 00:48
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/8148891.stm
People seen that, Newcastle really are having a bad time of things at the moment aren’t they!
July 15, 2009 at 00:49
Nighty night Pedro…
AA23, imo its rvp – eduardo – arshavin – bendtner – vela – theo…in that order.
July 15, 2009 at 00:50
Front three of Arshavin, VP, and Eduardo, then Theo, Bendy, Vela to come in, Bendy and Theo ahead of Vela though, they’re level imo
July 15, 2009 at 00:51
Vela won’t be ahead of theo stu, especially after spending the summer with mexico. Really is fucking up his development having to play for them in pointless matches
July 15, 2009 at 00:52
Stu Wenger likes to keep a balance. He likes lefties on the right, and vice versa. He also likes a powerful guy up top with a support striker. I anticipate seeing Arshavin out wide again.
I expect Bendtner to get more starts than anyone else this season
July 15, 2009 at 00:54
Yeah Bill. We have an abundance of right footed left siders but not many left footed right siders tho. Not a great balance.
July 15, 2009 at 00:54
If Ade leaving gives Vela a chance to get regular games then maybe I’m not so upset that he’s off.
So Van Persie is our main striker then, hope he stays fit… and scores more goals.
on papre we look good in that regard but if Eduardo and van P get crocked early on we’re fucked and thats not impossible.
July 15, 2009 at 00:54
Bill we can’t go on previous, because wenger always used to be a 4-4-2, or 4-5-1 in tough games, and now he’s bought players to play 4-2-3-1, and gradually moved into that last season. We’ve never had lefties on the right have we?? I can’t think of anyone?? Reyes played on the left as well, and so has Vela when he’s played wide.
I expect Bendy to get more starts than last season, but less than Arshavin, VP, Eduardo
July 15, 2009 at 00:55
But whats the order of preference A.
i would have rvp as first because he usually plays against every kind of opposition. He is tall enough to deal with stoke, bolton etc and skillful enough to play against anyone else. Know what i mean?
July 15, 2009 at 00:59
I don’t think there is much of an order of preference Stu. VP and Arshavin will start more or less every game, unless they need a break or Wenger feels confident and wants to give someone else a run out.
After that Eduardo will play most games, Bendy and Theo will play alot, and Vela will play a fair bit.
July 15, 2009 at 01:01
Would like to think Matuidi will sign after Ade is announced tomorrow, but figure we’ll have to wait until the end of the week until he or another DM is announced
July 15, 2009 at 01:01
A when isaid lefties on the right. i meant strikers not wingers, sorry i could have been clearer.
I mean he likes playing RVP and Eduardo on the right, and Ade and Bendtner on the left.
Even in a 4,2,3,1 i would expect Bendtner to be the one as Wenger tends to prefer a powerful player there, with RVP or Eduardo supporting from the right, and Arshavin supporting from the left
And in a 4,4,2 (4,4,1,1 whatever you wanna call it) I expect Bendtner up there with RVP or Eduardo as the Bergkamp role
July 15, 2009 at 01:02
Fine A, that will do.
You say Thei will get more games, which i dont disagree with, but i just think if it was between the two of them for a striker role then i think Vela would get preference.
Theo will play wide right but i think Wenger prefers Vela as a forward..proper forward.
July 15, 2009 at 01:02
so vp central in the front 3? Arshavin left and Eddy on the right?
Dont you think that Arshavin and Van P are better second strikers? so does that mean eddy in the middle with them two either side?
Or Nik in the centre with any two of the other three rotating around?
Or will they just all be told to do their thing and swap about at will causing absolute chaos to defences?
or will it all be a bit of a mess?
July 15, 2009 at 01:04
I see Bendtner as a rightie and Eduardo as a leftie in a 4-4-2 Bill. Probably the opposite to you…
Only because Bendtner aint really the best at opening his body up to shoot. He is better at shooting across the keeper and as such he plays on the right and Eddie on the left.
July 15, 2009 at 01:07
Ah ok Bill, I getcha. I dunno about Bendy, I don’t think wenger will play him for power through the middle, he’s preferred VP as the central of the three when he’s played it, especially towards the end of the season. I don’t think he’d play a central player for power because I expect all three to rotate loads, as Barca do, and at times Arshavin will be the central one as Messi is for Barca!
I agree in 4-4-2 I’d like it to be someone with Bendy, Eduardo and Bendy are a great combination, as are Vela and Bendy, but I expect VP to play more or less every game, and he doesn’t seem to fit as well with Bendy.
Yeah I agree with that Stu, but I think Theo will play wide right ahead of Vela every time, wide left they’ll probably play the same amount, and centrally Vela would play more, but I think overall Theo would play ahead of Vela, with other players being moved centrally, before Vela played. He’ll certainly get a good few games this season though
July 15, 2009 at 01:08
I see it as being more like Eduardo through the middle with Arshavin(left) and VP(right) playing off him.
Allow both of them to play their normal role of connecting midfield and attack.
Defence
Cesc – Matuidi
Rosicky
VP – Arshavin
Eduardo
July 15, 2009 at 01:08
Yea Stu, But i think if you look back over previous games, you will find Bendtner more often on the left of whoever he’s with unless it’s Ade and Eduardo on the right of Ade. RVP is usually deployed on the right side to cut in. He just seems to prefer lefties on the right.
July 15, 2009 at 01:08
lol AA23 I expect it to all be a mess, but a very good mess, very fluid, and changing all the time, noone will have a clue how to defend against it!!
July 15, 2009 at 01:09
so a loose 4-3-3 Stu, I think you could be right, seems like it would work with almost any names you put into the front 3
July 15, 2009 at 01:12
A
I’d love it mate, I think it could work a treat, we are talking about players that would all thrive under a system like that, all intelligent enough, all with varied flair and all tick boxes that the others dont. Could be really frightening
July 15, 2009 at 01:12
True Bill but i think that would be because Bendtner is more adaptable than Ade so he took it upon himself to play left and let Ade on the right. Same with VP who, as you rightly say, wants to be on the right to be able to cut in with the ball.
July 15, 2009 at 01:13
Yeah A. In the 4,3,3 I would prefer Bendtner on the left, as i said yesterday i think he’s more threatening there. But there is always the danger that RVP can get pushed around in the middle.
But as you say they will most likely rotate to confound the opposition. I still expect Bendtner to start nearly every game he’s available for though. He’s the only one who can offer strength against physical defenders, and he’s the only one who offers aerial threat.
July 15, 2009 at 01:15
I dont like Bendtner out wide. He is ok there because of the effort he puts it but he is hardly skillful enough to play a wide role. Not the dazzling dribbling, flicks and tricks kind of guy.
July 15, 2009 at 01:16
Yeah AA23, they’ll all thrive in being given the freedom to do what they want and make things happen, could be a very exciting system. Another reason why I believe Wenger was very willing to sell ade, because he wouldn’t be on the same wavelength as the others when it comes to that system.
July 15, 2009 at 01:17
1: Arshavin(L) Eduardo Van Persie(R)
2: Vela(L) Bendtner Walcott(R)
Thats they way it should be imo with a fully fit squad.
1 for the prem and CL
2 for some prem and cups(fa and carling)
And anyone from 2 can easily take a place in the first one if needs be.
July 15, 2009 at 01:20
Stu
I think it will be the same as your line up but swapping Nik and Eddy
July 15, 2009 at 01:21
Nah AA23, if Eduardo is fit he will start because he is lethal.
July 15, 2009 at 01:23
Just as an aside I was on a man u site recently, think it was redcafe and they were quite seriously saying that our strike force is the best for the upcoming season, that was before the Ade news but they realise we are no joke in that dept.
July 15, 2009 at 01:24
redcafe are also shitting it at the prospect of getting matuidi, because their french fans have said he’s awesome!
July 15, 2009 at 01:25
Stu I agree with your team above, I’d be very happy with that.
July 15, 2009 at 01:27
stu
he is lethat you are right, doesnt really make a difference to be honest
Eddy starts, gets a goal or two comes off at 64 mins ,Nik comes on to kill the game…or vice versa.
Not to worried either way.
July 15, 2009 at 01:28
Which team is that A?
July 15, 2009 at 01:32
heres one for you A and Stu
Eddy gets fucked in august, van p gets fucked early september.
What now?
July 15, 2009 at 01:35
Easy, play Bendtner and Arshavin, Rosicky and Nasri out wide with Cesc and Matuidi or Song in the middle. Then wait until november and get the Pog on a free. Simples!
BTW how serious are the injuries.
July 15, 2009 at 01:37
Stu
nice one, Vela and Walcott could get a chance as well.
What role do you think Arshavin will play from now on?
July 15, 2009 at 01:39
I think he will play one of the wide roles or my preference would be in the middle off the striker but that aint gonna happen.
July 15, 2009 at 01:40
Another amusing part of my trip to redcafe was them saying they should “pry Arshavin” from us.
July 15, 2009 at 01:50
AA23 why would they get fucked?? It’s like saying Almunia gets fucked in Auguest, Fabianski in Sept, then what?!
July 15, 2009 at 01:52
Its jut a hypothetical situation A.
July 15, 2009 at 01:54
I’m wondering what part Wilshere, Merida, JET, Lansbury, Bartley will play this season, what they’ll do
July 15, 2009 at 01:55
Or an “in case of disaster” thing. Its all about preparing for the worst and having a plan to deal with those problems.
July 15, 2009 at 01:57
So…since the topic is drying up heres a new one.
Seeing as Barnet is only a few days away, what do ye think the line up will be like? No Toure but we have Senderos, Vermaelen and Gallas. All 3 starting? Sendy and Verm to see if it can work, or is Gallas a guarenteed starter again?
July 15, 2009 at 01:58
Can’t see Sendy and Vermaelen Stu, never heard of a defensive partnership with two left footers. Gallas with Vermy, and Bartley with Senderos?
July 15, 2009 at 02:00
A
just throwing some ideas out there.
we aint the luckiest in terms of injuries and I’m testing how we’d cope in your opinions.
July 15, 2009 at 02:01
Sorry AA23, it’s just that I just don’t wanna think about it, worried about tempting fate!! wanna think optimistically!!
July 15, 2009 at 02:01
Well then A, Senderos and Vermaelen is a possibility then because Senderos is right footed, just left sided. But he did play right side 2 years ago with Toure away.
July 15, 2009 at 02:03
No he isn’t stu – he’s left footed…. Pretty two footed but his strongest foot is his left…. It’s why he’s played left back a few times, not right back. I can’t remember him ever playing right side?
July 15, 2009 at 02:05
Thats odd A. When did he play left back? I remember him playing right back against Blackburn in the FA cup replay at Ewood. McCarthy was up against Senderos on the left wing and scored the screamer to knock us out.
Remember it? I thought you would.
July 15, 2009 at 02:05
I’m pretty sure of that anyways, that he’s left footed, surely I wouldn’t make a mistake like that, always thought of him as left footed
July 15, 2009 at 02:05
Stu
Gallas should always start Imo.
Gallas and Verm @ Barnet
July 15, 2009 at 02:07
Ha yeah I do remember that vividly actually Stu, he played left back 3/4 times, i remember laughing at his trying to do marauding runs down the left flank, I really thought he was left footed, that’s retarded of me if not true, memory is shocking but still that’s really bad
July 15, 2009 at 02:09
A, you are human after all. We all make mistakes. Left sided, yes. Left footed, no.
July 15, 2009 at 02:09
Yeah football manager has him as right footed too, kinda worries me i thought he was left footed
July 15, 2009 at 02:10
He is probably two footed but i dont think he is left footed.
July 15, 2009 at 02:13
Im usually correct with players prefered foot tho A.
Not relevant at all but years ago in school a few of the lads were playing a game. You call out a left footed players name a kick someone in the ass. (childish i know but so what, it was a laugh). Someone calle out Maldini, and he being a rightie but just brilliant with either foot, i corrected the mistake. Needless to say i got kicked even tho i know i was right.
Anyway……
July 15, 2009 at 02:13
Nah that’s a pretty big mistake, very weird.
July 15, 2009 at 02:14
Speaking of Maldini and Senderos – lets hope Phil learnt a think or two off arguably the best defender ever.
July 15, 2009 at 02:15
haha I thought maldini was left footed too. Maybe it’s just something I don’t realise with defenders?! I dunno, weird.
July 15, 2009 at 02:15
Dont be upset about it A. Just do what i do and learn from it. Cant always be right…..even tho you always seem to fucking be.
July 15, 2009 at 02:16
Hahahah! defenders really screw with your head.
July 15, 2009 at 02:17
Ha well i’m trying to find a way to discover that EVERYONE else is wrong and i’m right stu, and everyone is mistaken with senderos! Profiles and such like all have him as right footed too, still shocked I could make such a strange error, i usually know that sort of thing!!
July 15, 2009 at 02:18
Or maybe im wrong on this one but i dont think so. Im pretty sure both are righties.
July 15, 2009 at 02:18
well..If Ade goes i wonder who is deff comming in…
July 15, 2009 at 02:19
I tried to make sure i was right and typed Senderos into google. This popped up from 05, havent read it yet tho but it shows how opinions have changed. Read it if you like but i didnt.
http://www.arsenalamerica.com/2005/05/04/phillip-senderos-fac/
July 15, 2009 at 02:20
Senderos uses his middle foot lol
July 15, 2009 at 02:21
Jay
I dont think anyone is coming in
July 15, 2009 at 02:22
Matuidi coming in Jay, sorted!! I havn’t lost faith Stu, really want him to stay, especially if he’s right footed so can play right side!
July 15, 2009 at 02:33
My last memories of Senderos for arsenal are against Sevilla in the amsterday tournament where he along with JD and Fabianski stopped us losing that game. The defence was great that night imo and that performance is why i rate both Senderos and Fabianski so highly. Sendy was captain that night and was a great one to say the least.
Not sure if the other is quite as nice, nor am i sure when it was. I just remember the stick out moment.
Reading, at home. We were defending a corner. Senderos is subbed on. Ball comes in, Senderos WINS IT, heads it against Fabregas and its an own goal. How depressing.
Two contrasting memories.
I feel the same about Phil as i do about Rosicky. Once upon a time i disliked both for silly reasons. Senderos because f his mistakes, which i realise are down to lack of confidence because of a lack of games.
And Rosicky because i used to loath how he always came inside with the ball and leave a gap(06-07 season). A tactic i had not picked up on or liked at the time but have now come to accept.
And both those players i miss very much now. Its a case of not knowing what you’ve got until its gone. Senderos’ leadership and height, Rosickys leadership and ability. Thats all.
July 15, 2009 at 02:34
Sorry is that was a bit long. But i just had to let it out and its not often that i babble(is that even a word?) so i think ye will excuse it.
July 15, 2009 at 02:35
I think he wont sell senderos… and i think he will bring in Matuidi. its his type of signing… but then again with Arsene who knows how many smoke screens he puts out there!
July 15, 2009 at 02:38
Wenger has so many smoke screens i doubt he even knows who he really wants anymore.
July 15, 2009 at 02:38
I hope you’re right Jay, and Senderos remains, Matuidi comes in.
Anyways I’m off to wallow in the embarrassment of thinking Sendy was left footed, nitey nite people
July 15, 2009 at 02:40
lol A, try not to lose too much sleep..
July 15, 2009 at 02:40
I am afraid with all this cash wenger might move inler.I really don’t rate that guy.
July 15, 2009 at 02:41
Why not Nish? I dont know anythng about him so you’re gonna have to give reasons.
July 15, 2009 at 02:42
I heard he had a shocking season and noone wants him now nisanth, so I doubt it’d happen.
Anyways, night
July 15, 2009 at 02:46
I saw a lot of udinese matches last season STU.He looked slow to me.Not really strong.He passes well but is not the type of DM we need.Nothing really special about him
July 15, 2009 at 02:58
It makes you wonder doesn’t it. We get linked with so many players from all around the world then when we watch them a few times they look so average. I know the media are cunts who make uo stuff but how about a little creative writing and try linking us with someone that is good. Fucking hacks, know fuck all.
July 15, 2009 at 03:01
Yeah.I think cana could also be something like that.Inler is definitely no the tackling type.He will keep the ball well.Might as well play nasri there
July 15, 2009 at 03:03
The only thing Inler would offer us is wreckless tackling and height. We already have Diaby for that.
July 15, 2009 at 03:05
this just raises the question, do we need the Dm, or just partner Cesc and Nasri in the middle to hold the ball better, distribute better, or do we need that cover for Cesc when he goes up..and if it is nasri, is he good enough.
July 15, 2009 at 03:06
Do you think the amount could be more than 25 million for ade.I think it could be more than that.City are definitely capable of that
July 15, 2009 at 03:09
Not sure… But no matter which way you look at it… Man City will have a line up capable of scoring alot of goals…and with so much competetion for spots, and egos – it will either mean the forwards will compete big time, or they will all play their own style…and break down any chance of being any good as a team.
July 15, 2009 at 03:09
Jay that will only work against the weaker teams at home.Against top class oppositions nasri will struggle at DM.
July 15, 2009 at 03:10
It doesn’t really matter.They need to defend properly.Getting JT is not going to make any difference
July 15, 2009 at 03:33
Barry, Ireland, JT….then the forwards..
if they sorted their CBs theyd be set?
July 15, 2009 at 03:53
it certainly appears Adebayor’s days at Arsenal are numbered.
City officials remained silent on the prospect of a £25million transfer being speeded through, although Hughes, given his general reluctance to discuss possible new recruits, rather gave the game away by first confirming talks had taken place, then suggesting they were at quite an advanced stage.
“There has been discussions between ourselves and Arsenal,” he said.
“It is not the right time or place to discuss it but yes, there has been contact and possibly there is a deal to be done.
“It has not been concluded as we speak. Until it happens, it is not the time or the place to talk about it.”
THERE IS A GOD !!!!!!!!!!!!
July 15, 2009 at 04:28
Chamakh is a greaseball! What? I said that already? Oh right!
And for the record, I am not a racist, but this time travel thing’s still got some kinks…
Also, I hereby appoint myself the chairman of the “MARCUS BERG TO N5!” Campaign Against Inept Strikers Trust. Who’s in?
July 15, 2009 at 05:45
i would take marcus berg..reminds me of edin dezeko wo would be another excellent buy…
however i would prefer bendtner over all of them and hence i woldnt be too disappointed if we did not replace ade,,imo DM and a winger are more of priorities…
and what’s with the hangeland rumours ???
July 15, 2009 at 05:51
berg could be the new berg-kamp
July 15, 2009 at 05:54
irealnd fadedo ff toward the end of the season, i doubt he can sustain high elvels of performance for a long time and elano is way too inconsistent..they aretn a balanced team yet and they never will be under hughes
July 15, 2009 at 06:25
am i dreaming?
http://community.footballpools.com/blog/2009/07/14/klaas-jan-huntelaar-arsenal-to-replace-adebayor-with-deadly-dutchman/#comment-10914
July 15, 2009 at 06:30
bloody hell, i swear the hacks just get their stroies from the blogs…
so cmon
i heard we are getting messi and iniesta and pato
July 15, 2009 at 06:36
CAPS= IMPORTANT
GEOFF/PEDRO PLEASE INCLUDE THIS IN YOUR NEXT WRITE UP, OR AT LEAST MENTION IT TO HAVE SOME POSITIVITY GOING.
http://209.85.225.132/translate_c?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://infos-foot.net/index.php%3Fpage%3Dsuite-articles%26newsid%3D9184&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dinfos-foot%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhjn_f1TsgEw1EHWtc42NDPxyBuunQ
SCROLL DOWN. I know the websites unknown, but they cite France Football as their source and that is the most respectable football paper in France. Eden Hazard said his favorite clubs are Madrid and Arsenal and if this is true, I think we should all be excited.
Ade out
Hazard and Matuidi in
July 15, 2009 at 06:46
eden hazard saying arsenal is his dream club has nothing to do with us being interested in him..
July 15, 2009 at 06:54
David Villa (apparently) wanted to join us last year, citing that he would only consider us if he came to the EPL, because of the style of football we play, but what chance of a club posting record profits/turnover year after year, and raking in over 3m every home game of signing a world class player who actually wants to come here, i’ll tell you, fucking none.
So, forget Hazard, or anyone else of similar quality, because anyone like that is gonna cost more than £2.50 and a luncheon voucher, and we wouldn’t want a transfer fee for an exciting talent like Villa or Hazard to impact the new improved deals being offered to all our fringe players, would we?
July 15, 2009 at 07:20
only too true ddm….
July 15, 2009 at 07:33
G’Day all
Romford Pele has weighed in on the potential Ade move
Former Arsenal midfielder Ray Parlour is completely supportive of Arsene Wenger’s decision to sell Emmanuel Adebayor.
The Togo international appears to be moving closer to a move to Manchester City, and Parlour believes the Gunners will be getting rid of a “lazy” player.
He told The Daily Star, “He was too lazy at times last season and just didn’t do it.
“His body language wasn’t great. He has a big contract, which maybe is because he had a good season the year before – but he needs people behind him getting on his back.
“Wenger will not stand in his way because they can get a lot of money for him and then get a very good player to replace him. His attitude amazed me at times last season when he just didn’t put it in.
“Sometimes if things are not going well for you, you have to show desire.”
July 15, 2009 at 07:37
g’morning
July 15, 2009 at 08:01
Umm, did anyone read the article. The one I posted has nothing to do with what Hazard wants.
It states Wenger talked with his parents.
July 15, 2009 at 08:02
Hi Guys
Breaking News…Adebayor Passes Medical in Man.City
it is on BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/8149488.stm
July 15, 2009 at 08:04
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/8149488.stm
adebayor passes medical in mancity
July 15, 2009 at 08:04
well then lets hope that wenger works hischarm like when he flew ramesy and his paretns in on his private jet to switzerland to ocnvince aaron of joining arsenal
July 15, 2009 at 08:06
so it looks like ade’s out once and for all…..
July 15, 2009 at 08:08
Is anyone else a Shamrock Rovers fan just for Monday?
July 15, 2009 at 08:08
Also, don’t forget this from earlier in the year:
http://www.goal.com/en/news/90/france/2009/04/27/1232439/arsenal-boss-arsene-wenger-hints-at-interest-in-lilles-eden-haza
I’ve heard rumors of a pre-agreement with his agent a while back. “We should let him continue his development in Lille”.
Wenger says “we” as in he possibly have plans for signing him? Maybe I’m just being too optimistic.
July 15, 2009 at 08:10
The manager at Lille is great at developing youth as well. Rudi..something is his name, I forget.
July 15, 2009 at 08:10
it looks like we might get him next season…meh
July 15, 2009 at 08:20
Morning all… We’ve not really been linked with any replacements for ade. Just that chamone or what his name is and that.more than likely just lazy work from the rags. Anyone heard any other good rumours?
July 15, 2009 at 08:21
JOY TO THE ARSENAL WORLD!!!
ADEBAYOR IS GONE!!!
SING X 3
WE CAN NOW GET A TOP DM AND CHAMAKH AND USE THE BALANCE OF THE CASH TO IMPROVE CONTRACTS OF OUR KEY PLAYERS.
GLORY BE TO GOD AS OUR PRAYERS HAVE BEEN FULLY ANSWERED!!!
NOW ARSENAL FANS SHOULD KEEP ANOTHER VIGIL AT THE EMIRATES STADIUM TO URGE WENGER TO BUY QUALITY AND MOVE ON FAST.
July 15, 2009 at 08:21
someone earlier had posted something on huntelaar…
at 6:25 AM
July 15, 2009 at 08:25
So, if a medical has been taken (and passed) then terms must’ve been agreed…….
July 15, 2009 at 08:27
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July 15, 2009 at 08:27
Rohan, I think that is just wishful thinking. There is no solid rumour there unfortunately
July 15, 2009 at 08:30
yea i know, it’s just the ahcks getting input form the blogs
July 15, 2009 at 08:30
It was reported by the mirror that the medical has been completed soon.Think(hope) it will be announced soon
July 15, 2009 at 08:34
I’m sure it will be nishanth. But until we spend the money, i won’t be getting too excited
July 15, 2009 at 08:36
We’ll just sell Ade, sign Shitemakh, and Wenger will blather on about how young his team is, how he’s never coached a better side, how amazingly financially prudent he is, and we’ll happily drop out of the top 4, which will nevertheless be an incredible achievement because we’ll win 3 games on the trot in April.
Fuck Wenger, Fuck Adebayor.
July 15, 2009 at 08:37
i guess it will be announce on city’s site late today and arsenal’s tomorrow..
July 15, 2009 at 08:38
Congrats fellow gooners. Badey is gone and seems like we got paid in full for him too. As long as we spend the money now!!
July 15, 2009 at 08:39
Arsenal.com will probably announce it next month, after the first league game of the season.
Hate ADebayor, but there’s no doubt we’re going to be a worse side for losing him.
July 15, 2009 at 08:44
i rate bendtner more that adebayor, dotn think it will be a great loss and it even may be a blessing in disguise if our strikers can stay fit…
it wouldnt be too much to expect 70 goals from rvp eddie arshavin and bendtner would it….
July 15, 2009 at 08:46
Okay you have $25million – what do u do – who do u buy.
July 15, 2009 at 08:47
Morning all, what I find a complete disgrace is, once again, Arsenal are the last to say anything, after Hughes said they were in talks, Arsenal should have said something, what a badly run website that really is, and some of you think Wenger has no say in it???
My arse.
July 15, 2009 at 08:48
Jay read the blog at 9am, I cover that topic!
July 15, 2009 at 08:48
Why hurt yourself Jay?
You know we won’t spend £25m.
July 15, 2009 at 08:49
buy matuidi hazard and maybe someone like marcus berg
July 15, 2009 at 08:49
the guardian has got a report saying ade’s having second thoughts and he wants to sleep on it. He’s worried about the reaction in Africa, OH GOD!!!!
July 15, 2009 at 08:50
I am not sure who i want.The ones i really don’t want to see would be inler and chamakh
July 15, 2009 at 08:50
Jimbo – I fell your pain fella, and deep down i fear the same, that the money we get for TT will be ‘lost’ with all the other masses of monies generated by Arsenal Football Club. However, i will try and wait and see, wait to see if in fact AW has a plan of action in this transfer window, before i vent my spleen….
July 15, 2009 at 08:51
I think he should be more worried about the reaction of arsenal fans if he stays
July 15, 2009 at 08:51
What’s badly run about a website that doesn’t announce a transfer till it’s complete? Maybe you’d prefer Chelsea’s site which sells Robinho shirts before he signs…
July 15, 2009 at 08:52
or maybe even affellay
July 15, 2009 at 08:53
Hunter + Cana + Richards (along with the Ade deal) + Hazard + Matudi = 35-40 mil, we also have some left from before selling Ade, I know Wenger said all this bullshit about not getting more than 3 players in, but Ade is minus one, and Verma is plus one, then Hunter, Cana and Richards are the 3 in, and Hazard and Matudi for the future, also could get rid of Song, Den, and Diaby.
July 15, 2009 at 08:53
Please please please let it be true….
Selling Adebayor will make our team much more of a tight unit with no lazy passengers, get rid of a major headache, and would do a lot for AW’s credibility to boot!
I really can’t wait to see that idiot holding a sky blue shirt… good luck Sparky, you’re going to need it managing that fool.
July 15, 2009 at 08:54
:S
July 15, 2009 at 08:55
the reaction in africa…ade??
cmon we know you’re leaving for the money dont ya….
July 15, 2009 at 08:55
Maybe news hasn’t reached Africa yet that Ade is a money-grabbing cunt?
July 15, 2009 at 08:56
morning all
rohan, is matuidi any good ?
July 15, 2009 at 08:57
Question, if Ade comes out with a statement that he doesn’t want to go to ManCity and wants to help arsenal win trophies, what will be our reaction.
July 15, 2009 at 08:58
Matuidi is alright – good in defence, rubbish passing though. Not better than Song, I don’t think, but I don’t think we’re buying him anyway.
Now might be a good time to actually fire Wenger. We’ve tied down some of our key players to new contracts, and we have a lot of money in the bank to improve the squad – could be a good time for a change.
July 15, 2009 at 08:58
I will only be happy if we spend the money .
Whats happened to all the rumours of a d m ???
Anyone linked ??
July 15, 2009 at 08:58
Adebayor worried about the reaction of Africa
hahah what a fucking knob.
July 15, 2009 at 08:58
Hunter, Hazard and Matu..would be my splurge..only because hunter would be on the out, and that leaves on less player the mancs and chaves can utilise…
hazard and matu as his kid signings…and i think he could pick up all 3 for close to 25 mill..
July 15, 2009 at 08:59
from what i’ve heard he seems like a mini-essien..so yes he is more highly rated than cana in france…
July 15, 2009 at 08:59
dont say that – he can’t stay after all this..can He?
i did watch that interview though – he refers to him in 3rd person. when ppl do that it shits me!
July 15, 2009 at 09:00
Who’s Matu?
Matuidi?
July 15, 2009 at 09:01
Essien like gets a big fuckin tick in my book.
July 15, 2009 at 09:01
Jimbo
sounds like matuidi will be another diaby song denilson ie , not quite !
why don,t we stop fucking around and get a decent d m
not another average one .
July 15, 2009 at 09:02
I don’t know Jules, but that’s why I think it’s so important that we get in a different manager.
Wenger is going to kill this team, the longer he’s left in charge.
July 15, 2009 at 09:02
Jimbo – “we’ll happily drop out of the top 4, which will nevertheless be an incredible achievement because we’ll win 3 games on the trot in April.
Fuck Wenger, Fuck Adebayor.”
A little bit extreme to say the least. In my honest opinion you are 100% wrong (lol).
We can win the title this season. It will be Arsenal vs Liverpool for it.
Ancelotti won’t be able to handle the chavs, City won’t be ready (yet), and Man U have just sold the best player in the world.
Enter the gooners.
July 15, 2009 at 09:02
i dont really care if he leaves or goes because i dont think he is going to be first choice next season
July 15, 2009 at 09:03
a little respect would be nice Jimbo. Its not about Wenger, but for you to be childlisly throwing around phrases of firing the manager (any manager of Arsenal) shows the type of fan your are. Go support chavs if you are that fickle.
July 15, 2009 at 09:03
And spuds will have another glorious season and scrape the top ten!
July 15, 2009 at 09:04
Chipo,
And we’re about to sell our only striker with a proven scoring history at this level, replace him with the worst finisher in France with the mentality of a baby girl, and start the season with a fucking shite central midfield.
If we had a sensible manager this summer, I think we’d have been challenging for the title next year. But we don’t, we’ve got Arsene Wenger.
July 15, 2009 at 09:04
I’m with LAzer on this one.
Maybe Jimbo hasn’t had his ReadyBrek yet