Take a pinch of white man wrap it up in black skin add a touch of blue blood and a little bitty bit of red indian boy

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That was an old motown song by Blue Mink I think, but if we added 2 or 3 of the above it may just work for us this season, our choice is a Brazilian, an Albanian, a French Algerian and a black Englishmen for our ‘great big a melting pot’ sorry about the play on words but today is the last day of June so we still have nearly a month to go until pre-season begins.

However, we are getting closer to that point where we need to say, this it it, this is our squad, so who is yet to climb aboard the project youth bandwagon?

Well the rumours gather pace about Melo, Gilberto entered the debate by saying ‘He is exactly what they need – a powerful player with quality. If they got him it would be great because he is a player they need at the moment’

He then said ‘We heard rumours and he asked me, I said it’s a fantastic club and if he’s interested he should go without thinking’

Well I am glad Gilberto still has a fondness toward us because I believe we treated him appallingly, so bad I was embarrassed, he should have stepped straight into the captaincy instead he was dumped, I still think he’s better than what we have and that’s two years on, no matter, back to Melo.

We have heard nothing other than speculation, so at this point it is still a rumour, however I wouldn’t say no, nor would I say no to Cana, in fact I think Cana may still be the better option and with Marseille saying he’s available, why not put in a bid?

I watched the Porto game last night and Denilson played Ok as did Ade, in fact the whole team looked good so I still think even with no signings we will be stronger next term, add Vermaelen and Arshavin to the mix, then a little bit of Eduardo and Rosicky and we may well have enough, but if Song, Denilson and Diaby don’t crack it early doors, we will be in for another season like the last one.

But get this, I do see Wengers point, really I do!!! With Ramsey and Wilshere on the bench, JET and Simpson knocking, we do have a lot of players at the club, so my solution would be if we buy a Cana or a Melo then we need to sell a few as well. Don’t keep too many players or dissent will creep in.

As far as Ade is concerned, he has an attitude problem, he has lost the fans so he really needs to move on, he’ll never get it back, he blew it not us, and Arsene, never underestimate the mob.

So if Ade’s pride will let him go to AC Milan as second choice, then we should sell him, I have a feeling he’ll give us all that ‘I love Arsenal’ shit and stay, but if we can sell him for £25 million then add to that and bring in Benzema, no screwing about, just do it.

We would then have a squad that would send shivers down the spine of the EPL and ECL and I for one would be licking my lips. I still think we need another centre back and I still think Richards could do a job, even with the pony show I watched last night, he stood head and shoulders above the rest, and yes, that includes Theo, who was woeful last night and I am his number one fan.

So dare I say it, we are almost there, we don’t need much, but we do need something, bringing in Benzema and getting shot of Ade would go a long way to making the fans happy and giving us belief, bringing in the DM would give us the bite we need and a centre back of epic proportions would seal the deal, then sell a few to get back the balance.

Other funnier news was reading that David O’Leary basically said that Tony Adams was thick, and when he was Pompey manager, a leading journo was interviewing him, but big Tone was more interested in talking to his dog. Well David, that’s a bit like Susan Boyle telling Elephant man his suit makes him look scruffy, don’t you think?

Have a great day today Grovers, it’s going to be a scorcher today!

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  1. patthegooner

    A more like it would be like us selling or losing Flamini, Diarra and Gilberto and replacing them with Denilson, Song and Diaby.

  2. A

    I agree stu, but i think although song and denilson are different, they’d still look good with cesc, rosicky, and hleb keeping the ball in front of them and tearing teams apart all over the place.

  3. A

    No pat because that’s pretty much like for like, not selling a top player and signing an average player. Flamini was good for us, but was never good enough imo

    That was selling decent players, and replacing them with decent players

  4. patthegooner

    Doesnt Pre-season start next week and didn’t wenger hint that he wanted all his wheeling and dealing done by then.

    Mind you he told us there would be quality signings within 2-3 weeks that would reassure the fans last summer and that he was taking his cheque book to the Euros.

    And the year before we were getting super super class signings.

    SAME OLD ARSENAL ALWAYS STINGY

  5. A

    pat he didn’t tell us he was taking his cheque book to the Euros, he said it commentating as a joke, he did say about reassuring us though, i was expecting more signings, but obviously he was more confident that alonso or inler or someone similar was gonna sign

  6. patthegooner

    Hardly like for like otherwise the season before our food chain would not have been

    1. Flamini
    2. Gilberto
    3. Diarra
    4. Diaby
    5. Denilson
    6. Song

  7. patthegooner

    I thought we were back in on the 6th Choy? is that wrong? I thought we had our first friendly on the 18th.

  8. Stu

    Its not like for like imo A.

    Gilberto – Cool, disciplined head who sits deep allowing others to express themselves.
    Flamini – ball of energy doing all the dirty work again allowing others to express themselves.
    Diarra – a talented cunt who wasnt a DM in the first place.

    Diaby – cant defend for his life.
    Denilson – god short passer but unable to assert himself on the oppo when there is a hint of physicality…but still learning.
    Song – apart from a few games, totally clueless and cost us quite a few goals. Doesnt put much effort in but is somewhat versatile and decent in the air.

    None of those are like for like imo.

  9. BOY BETTER KNOW

    There’s only going to be a maximum of two signings as wenger said already all this talk of benzema and ribery is just hype so it looks like wenger is going for these sorts of players

  10. patthegooner

    And that is what concerns me A

    What if he has got all his eggs in one basket again.

    I am not going through that deadline day again. I could honestly have punched him in the face the way I felt at about 1am after the realisation that instead of sorting our midfield out, he was watching the reserves.

  11. patthegooner

    Yeah A, and then he realised that Denilson and Diaby were not ready, and if that was true I hardly think he would have bought Diarra in as 5th choice.

  12. A

    In terms of overall ability none of our DMs were top class, Gilberto was the only one who was, but when he left his legs had gone, and the others had varying strengths and weaknesses.

    Flamini has incredible energy and stamini, but not great on the ball nor very intelligent
    Diarra was probably the most talented but absolutely shocking attitude
    Denilson reads the game very well but doesn’t have the physical attributes
    Diaby has all the physical attributes, but is defensively inept
    Song is big, strong, and good in the tackle, but dodgy on the ball and not very intelligent

  13. A

    no pat he didn’t realise nor think that denilson and diaby weren’t ready, it was just a fluke that they were injured when gilberto was at the copa america, and we started the season so well flamini couldn’t be dropped. Diarra I think was ultimately going to be the first choice DM, he was more talented than all the rest, and he was brought in to take over from gilberto as number one, but he was too impatient and shocking attitude so it didn’t happen

  14. patthegooner

    And I would not be in the least bit concerned about losing any of Denilson, Song or Diaby.

    Despite improvement, I still doubt that any of them will make it at the top top level and further doubt that you will see any of Barca, Real, AC Milan etc being linked with them at any point of their careers.

  15. A

    I wouldn’t pat, it would have been good if we’d kept him, but we still needed someone better than him imo, and i still hope we sign someone better than all of them.

    Diarra excluded because of his attitude, I really think that Song will end up as the best of them, and he’ll be ultimately a better player than Flamini, Denilson, and Diaby.

  16. patthegooner

    Well thank fuck Flamini did step up to the plate then. those two were average last season so a year earlier and I seriously doubt that we would have even challenged for the title.

  17. patthegooner

    Question then A

    Will we challenge for the PL with either Denilson or Song considered as the prefered partner with Cesc next season?

  18. A

    flamini was average as well pat, cesc, rosicky, and hleb just made him look MUCH better than he was, though his style suited the system well he still was never a top player.

  19. A

    Yes pat, I think we could definitely win the title with either of them as the preferred partner alongside cesc, just as we almost did with Flamini

  20. Stu

    Diarra isnt a fucking DM. He is shite defensively imo. He was like that for Pompey, slow to track back, and always prefered to be upfield.

    Its the same for Madrid. He is a shite DM, hence why Gago always played next to him. Talented yes but a DM no.

  21. BOY BETTER KNOW

    A you will be in for a shock next season when we end up outside the top 4 with that sort of midfield

  22. patthegooner

    Can’t agree with that. Sure the other three complimented him and as a unit they were excellent, but Flamini is not average, he is a very good footballer, maybe not world class but not average either.

    and the difference there is that neither Song or Denilson suit the system and they are average. Cesc has no confidence in them and I feel that is why his form dipped.

    We simply have to sort out that position within the team.

    The bigger problem is that if Cesc gets injured, we have to field two out of the three of them, and with Man City still strengthening, I dont think we can risk that.

  23. patthegooner

    Well I hope you are right and I am wrong then A

    Cause I dont give us a hope with Denilson or Song starting in the midfield and especially if it ends up being both of them (Which it will be early season as Cesc gets a prolonged break). Weakest CM partnership since Wenger joined us.

  24. choy

    actually we were doing fine without cesc,

    the problem is that if cesc is fit, he will start and neither song or denilson are mobile enough to cover for cesc.

    cesc himself is quite slow, so he needs a faster defensive partner.

  25. Adbeadhair

    Just saw Valencia has signed for ManUre.. Isn’t he the same guy that Wenger turned down and reccomended to Steve Bruce to buy for Feck all. Did we leave another one slip thru the fingers???

  26. Stu

    Bassong is shite…dont want him at all.

    Flamini is brillaint, A just doesnt like him.

    And im off to socialise….laters yall….

  27. A

    I don’t not like him stu – i just never rated him. As a footballer he wasn’t good, just amazing energy, stamina, and determination, but his reading of the game, ability on the ball, and technique left much to be desired, and I felt like that even when we were flying, back then I expected Diarra to take over from him!

    No adbeadhair that was palacios.

  28. A

    That story is ridiculous re bassong, you know it isn’t true simply because it claims wilshere and vela going to newcastle, which wouldn’t happen. Bassong has alot of raw potential, but he’s a left sided centre back, and we just signed Vermaelen, so it wouldn’t happen!

  29. A

    pat re cesc’s form dipping, imo that was 70% because of hleb’s departure, 28% because of Rosicky’s prolonged injury, and 2% flamini not being around.

    In terms of Cesc’s backup, I wonder who would play if he’s out, ramsey, merida, nasri centrally? I don’t think it’s nailed on now that it’d be denilson or diaby and one of them

  30. Mayank

    Also one thing i don’t get is both Ade and Flamini had their heads turned by milan both were offered better wages there Flamini chose to go Ade stayed. Yet we hate Ade more. I know there are other reasons for it but i for one wouldn’t want him back.

  31. A

    I dunno Mayank, I can see it from his perspective if it wasn’t financial. The only thing I have a problem with was if he said he was gonna sign then didn’t, but in terms of going I don’t begrudge him it that much.

    Flamini saying he should be given a chance in the middle, Wenger saying denilson, diaby are better, they couldn’t play and flamini worked out well, so he kinda said i told you so, you should’ve played me before etc so i’m off

  32. patthegooner

    Flamini did not say he was staying then going within the same press conference.

    Ade did not choose to stay at Arsenal. AC Milan chose to buy Ronaldinho instead, so he had no choice.

    A, I guess this an agree to disagree monents.

    Personally I will go with 50% Flamini, 25% Hleb and 25% Rosicky. Rosicky is now fixed with his return/Nasri, Hleb is fixed by Arshavin and Flamini still needs fixing.

  33. Mayank

    So what? As if a player is ever really bound by a contract. All they have to do is ask the manager for a transfer and they’re more or less guaranteed it. Sure the manager can try to convince him but i’m sure he must have tried the same with Flamini. Ade has no tact whatsoever thats why he is so disliked, if he ever thought about the repercussions of his words he’d be much better liked. Or he should start giving his interviews in spanish so at least he can say he was miss-quoted.

  34. SUGA3

    I agree, PTG – Flamini may not be the most brilliant footballer on the planet, but no one else complemented Cesc in the middle like he did…

    now we paid for Wenger’s shit man management, IMO…

  35. patthegooner

    If he actually admitted he was in the wrong and apologised it would be a start Mayank…

    But then his ego means he is above that..and us.

  36. ManGoonian

    Oh FFS!

    Here we go again with the dredging over all these effin tired old bullshite….

    lamini left coz of Wenger bad management???

    You have inside info there Suga???

    Coz, I know I dont, all I know is Flamini said he was STAYING, but that was a fuckin LIE!

    Wasnt it?

    Lets look at his background (do we really have to??? Zzzzz)

    The fella left marseille under a cloud, has previous for saying 1 thing and doin another, shit happens, he went for the money…. He aint called Flamoney for nuffin now is he???

    By like I say… Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  37. ManGoonian

    Gooner786;

    I wish mate. I only have a perfectly toned 6 pack, havent got a fine beer belly like that …. yet!

  38. Mayank

    I think another reason for the differences in their likeability is the roles they have to play. Ade’s a goal -scorer so by profession is a bit cocky. Flamini’s role was of a workhorse, hard to dislike a player in this position (of course Denilsong proved that wrong). I for one think that Ade going wouldn’t be a disaster at all, but he did offer something no-one else can at the moment.

  39. ManGoonian

    Suga;

    No offence ,meant there… I am just soooooo effin bored of chatting bout Flamini, Hleb etc…. Them fuckers aint worth a pint of piss, they aint Gooners anymore and were not around at the club long enough to warrant any hero worship or even a mere mention, IMO…

    They were fleeting participants in the club’s history as well as being right cunts as well!

  40. patthegooner

    A bit like Grimandi Mayank, you could not hate him either. Players that would never have to question whether or not they have put in 110% week in week out.

    As for Ade, he is the Epitome of everything I hate about the modern day footballer, and I feel sorry for whatever club ends up with him, especially if he remains in ours.

  41. Mayank

    I didn’t want to say that, but it is one of the factors. Many more think Nik is the next fowler than denilson the next gilberto despite both having similar seasons. I’m not saying thats on everyone’s mind but it might be a contributing factor.

  42. Mayank

    PTG again i say its about tact. Ade just said what’s on 90% of the footballers minds i.e. that their services are for offer to the highest bidder. Of course i’m condoning such behaviour i’d love it if all out players were like tone but i’m sure there’s not a top club in the world w/o mercenaries.

  43. A

    Yeah agree to disagree pat, flamini winning the ball back high up the pitch was good, but it was cesc having hleb and rosicky to link up with and bringing him into the game that allowed him to be so good last season, and that was missing this season. Nasri will be awesome, but isn’t anywhere near rosicky’s level, and at the start of the season was miles away, and there was noone on the right.

    With rosicky back and arshavin i expect cesc to be awesome again, though arshavin currently isn’t as adapted as hleb was, but will be a far better player.

  44. BOY BETTER KNOW

    well if that bassong story comes into fruition that will be the 13 mill done and that will conclude our summer transfer dealings here’s to us winning the premier league once again

  45. Mayank

    Who said we have as much as/only 13m. Were they the same people who are packing Arsh to Barca after lees than 6 months at Arsenal.

  46. patthegooner

    I think that Bassong story is rubbish.

    Can’t believe he is on 75k a week!!!!!!!

    Dennis Wise should get a life ban from football, especially for signing that spanish lad Xisco and paying him 50k a week. Leeds United revisited.

  47. A

    just that it’s blatently obvious the story is a load of bollocks bbk, firstly there’s no way wenger would send wilshere anywhere on loan, secondly vela would go on loan to a team in the prem if he was allowed to go out, and thirdly bassong is a left footed centre back, and we’ve just signed a left footed centre back!

  48. patthegooner

    Not just that A, but Newcastle are in turmoil, as if he would allow two of his star pupils to go to a club that dont even have a manager at the moment.

  49. Mark C

    Saw the U21 game last night.

    We were so poor, needed someone with creation in the middle.

    Pearce should have included Wilshire as the creative spark.

  50. SUGA3

    ManGoonian, none taken ;-)

    I am referring to AW trying to offload him to B’ham at the start of his last season after Flam played wherever he was asked to and did pretty decent job there :)

    waking up in the middle of the season to offer him a new contract after his head was turned was just not on, IMO…

    Hleb, Cesc and Flam were good pals, hence Cesc’s remarks about camaraderie or lack thereof…

  51. I have to hand it to Manchester United. They have the best players ... and the best referees.

    torres wants smaller players at liverpool maybe vela and wilshere shuld go on loan to them and se how they like that a team of midgets

  52. redbearer

    Evening, in advance I apologise for this rant but am I the only one who is becoming more and more disillusioned with the lack of actual real transfer activity attached to our club this summer?!?!

    At the end of the season it was crystal to all that we required some additional blood in defence and along came Vermaelen.. a quick and useful prospect but obviously our defensive unit also was deemed to lack height… now Zapata, Richards, Tasci and Sakho have been linked but a deal for commanding centre half still has not been negotiated.
    Another weak link pin pointed by 99% of Gooners is the obvious lack of a quality defensive midfielder, Viera, Giberto and Flamini (all too briefly) bossed the position for a while but it appears completely naive that we have failed to cover this area when it’s blatantly clear that Denilson, Song and Diaby do not cut the mustard.. So what is being done about this, quite simply nothing!
    As for continuing with a striker which is paying his agent to get him a move away from our great club… Adebayor is so completely disrespectful we should just bin him for less than his retail value.. why is Wenger still believing in this muppet when he is so transparently taking the piss out of you and everyone associated with the club!! In the meantime sign up a replacement who actually will be proud to wear the badge… Benzema would be a fantastic investment and even the unproven but potentially decent Berg would be much more welcome!

    And yes we need a big clear out and we also need to invest in these quality players… Open your eyes boardroom members, smell the coffee Mr. Wenger and wake up before it’s too late.. Can you not see that the Mancs, Chavs and the Scousers are destined to overtake us next season unless you act quickly but nothing seems to be getting done and if we do fail next season the fans will know exactly who to blame!

    Me I’m just fed up of the media circus and the false promises… when it’s abundantly accurate to say that the board does not match the ambition and commitment shown by the fans!!

    As Geoff said in one of his most recent posts.. where has all the money gone, are the fans being ripped off? Are we seeing value for money, pretty football without an end product.. imo being 2nd best is unacceptable when we should be number 1 because we must be one of the best supported teams in the world and we would probably have no problem filling up the Emirates if ground capacity was doubled!

  53. BOY BETTER KNOW

    redbearer you better get used to it don’t expect nothing from this summer to happen regarding quality wise save yourself the aggro m8

  54. A

    bbk because wilshere is too young and small to go on loan. You send players on loan who need to be playing regular football and make the step up, wilshere is too young to be playing regularly, he isn’t in that position, and would just get lumps kicked out of him in the championship. He’s a player who’s never gonna end up on loan, because by the end of the season he’ll be at a level where he’s making more appearances for our first team. Not to mention as pat said newcastle are a club in turmoil.

  55. A

    ha so why will it get worse bbk, please enlighten me?

    Currently we’re starting next season with the same players, but arshavin, eduardo, rosicky, and vermaelen, how are we in anything but a better positon than last year?

  56. BOY BETTER KNOW

    17 is to young to go out on loan rooney was playing at 16 vaughn was playing at 16 if wenger is serious about this guy he needs to be playing most weeks for a lower league side

  57. BOY BETTER KNOW

    c’mon a do you really think eduardo and rosicky will play a full season for us?vermaelen is a joke of a signing and arshavin well who nows what next season will bring from him,plus with no other additions of real quality we are in for another shite year

  58. Mayank

    Yup arsenal are definitely heading down the shitter. With players like Rosicky, Arshavin, Fabregas, Eduardo, Gallas, Vermaelen, Gael, Sagna, RvP vying for first team spots we have little hope. They wouldn’t even make Chelsea/’Pool/ManUs bench.

  59. A

    BBK the point of going on loan is to play week in week out.

    Rooney and Vaughen even being much more physically developed and bigger than Wilshere, were protected and not playing week in week out at 17, Messi at 17 was protected and rotated as well.

    17 year olds don’t get loaned out, because they don’t play week in week out

  60. BOY BETTER KNOW

    you also hit the nail on the head there,with the same players,half of them are not good enough for us so that leaves us in the shit

  61. A

    lol so why is vermaelen a joke of a signing bbk??

    I really do wonder sometimes if you’re just a plant from another blog, or a spud wind up merchant

  62. BOY BETTER KNOW

    nah im none of the above two,i just think we should be trying to sign better players then the likes of vermaelen

  63. Wonderboy

    Wahey, boo hoo, everything is crap, we are shit and it’s brilliant isn’t it lads. Whinge, whinge, moan.
    I think it’s about time that you moved out of your mum’s house and got a life.

  64. BOY BETTER KNOW

    for a start he’s not a presence then say the the likes of rio and vidic are its all the small players all the time they have got us nowhere

  65. Mayank

    Also Wenger wouldn’t want to dis-continue his development by sending him to brum or something where he can learn how to kick a ball… hard. I was being sarcastic in the last post btw.

  66. A

    like who bbk?! to call the captain of ajax and a very highly rated young defender a joke of a signing before he’s even stepped foot onto a pitch in our colours is a joke!

    Vermaelen is higher profile than vidic/agger/skrtel/ivanovic/alex

  67. BOY BETTER KNOW

    young defenders there not what we need,you sure about him being a more high profile then the above lot in question

  68. ManGoonian

    BBK aint a spud, he’s just a very very misaerable fella!

    Take yer meds son!

    A; What rumour is this??? Bassong, Wilshire, vela??? Do tell?

  69. A

    Yep bbk, when they signed for utd/chelsea/liverpool certainly he’s at the very least the same level as they were.

  70. BOY BETTER KNOW

    if your happy to settle for second rate crap good luck to you,im not,the longer it carries on like this the longer it will be to win another trophy and being taken seroiously again

  71. A

    Mangoonian someone said on a different blog that they had inside information we were about to sign Bassong for 2 mil with vela and wilshere going on loan to newcastle, ridiculous if you ask me!

  72. ManGoonian

    A;

    But Vidic et al were sooooo much better than this Vermaellen coz WE DIDNT SIGN EM!

    Simple as….

    Thats how it works with los negativos

  73. Mayank

    But A don’t you understand, we’ve signed him so he must be shit, why would we sign him otherwise. I wonder how many would be moaning if he signed for Man U we’d be crying about how we let him ‘slip’. Sure he’s not 8’7″ but larger defenders are normally slower hence can’t play our high line, exceptions being Rio Sol etc.

  74. ManGoonian

    BBK;

    So, whats gonna happen then? You know, when you cant take all the 2nd rate crap anymore???

    What will happen then?

    Will your head spin round like the girl in Excorcist and projectile green vomit come shootin out your mouth?

    Will your body inflate and explode like the really fat bloke in that Monty Python film?

    Or will you go on a gun toting rampage like in Scarface???

  75. patthegooner

    Wonderboy, we do indeed have a mighty fine set of players.

    Unfortunately it has a mighty big whole right in the middle of it.

    fill that whole and I am a happy bunny.

  76. goonermichael

    vermaelin was Ajax’s captain. How can he not have some kind of presence? BBK Are you ever happy or is it just Arsenal?

  77. BOY BETTER KNOW

    nope i won’t do that m.g all i will do is keep moaning untill i think we are going about signing quality players the correct way,untill then you lot will have to put up wit me unless geoff and pedro say otherwise sorry……

  78. patthegooner

    Vermaelen is one that I have got to trust Wenger on.

    He is not a signing that stood out to me and said, fuck me we have a shit hot defence next season, but that is down to my limited knowledge of the guy and how he plays, and that I struggled to get good references of him around the net. I am going to give him a fresh page and let him impress or bug the hell out of me.

  79. ManGoonian

    BBK;

    Dont ever aplogise mate! It wouldnt be the same if you came on here all singing n dancing (well, so to speak!) :D

  80. Mayank

    BBK you do realise that there is another way to build a football team than the real madrid way. If you really think we are more than 1-2 players away from challenging for the PL then i really have to say that you are a bit deluded. Can’t blame you, a lot of people seem to be overly negative about arsenal it seems to be in fashion.

  81. ManGoonian

    The way I see it, all transfers are a gamble. BUT, this Vermilli mustve been scouted a lot and just as with Sagna (who is effin terrific IMO) is pretty unknown, but cost a fair few quid, so I think he aint a punt like Stepanovs, Malz, etc…

    At least give the guy half a fookin season before slating him…., Shit! Stam looked pants when he 1st played for United, as did Vidic….

  82. patthegooner

    Wonderboy

    I like Eboue as a RB, think he would probably get in most PL teams in that position (Man Ure and Liverpool pre Johnson included). awful awful midfielder though and for that reason, I think he is dead wood that we could make some money on this summer and re-invest in CM.

    I would actually take selling Ade, Diaby and Eboue and spending the lot on a world class CM player and I think we would be better for it.

    Forget the Striker, we have the cover in Eduardo, Arshavin, Theo, Vela, RVP, Bendtner and Simpson.

  83. goonermichael

    I think if we splashed out on a 30 million pound player it would make most gooners feel positive. Not you BBK ! lol

  84. BOY BETTER KNOW

    and what i will say ti you mayank is you are the delude one 1-2 players away are you actually being serious mayank

  85. A

    bbk alonso hadn’t done or won anything when he signed for liverpool, what had vidic done at spartak moscow, alex at psv etc etc?!

  86. patthegooner

    And that is it ManGoonian

    Vermaelen is not a signing that instantly filled me with excitement and belief, but you have to give the guy a chance.

    It is exactly the same as I felt when we signed Sagna.

  87. Mayank

    Well BBK i’ve got to hand one thing to you, you do manage to get the people talking it was getting boring here.

  88. A

    imo we’re gonna challenge for the title if we signed absolutely noone this season, we’re 1-2 players away from dominating

  89. patthegooner

    Ha Ha A, we had this earlier so wont get you back into it.

    I think we are one player from challenging
    2 from dominating.

  90. A

    I agree with that pat, though i’m much more excited than with sagna. Wenger must rate vermaelen VERY highly to spend 10 mil on him, the most he’s spent on a centre back before that is the 3 mil on cygan, he’s never before rated a centre back so highly that he’s been willing to spend a decent amount on him. He’s also had scouts watching him for a long while, and must have had a glowing report from Bergkamp. All those peoples opinions are good enough for me, and I hope and expect big things from him.

  91. Mayank

    I think the same A, denilson and song aren’t as bad as they are made out to be, but having a good experienced DM in their place will help the club and the players.

  92. A

    ha fair dos pat. IMO we’re a centre mid away from dominating, but with that as a weakness we’ll still be challenging and in with a chance of winning certainly, but it’ll still be a weakness. That’s the only significant weakness, although obviously there are other areas we can improve, but don’t need to to win things.

  93. Honest Bill

    I think we should have never let go of Thierry Henry. What? You wanna win trophies? well fucking lead your team to win some then.

    That’s what Wenger should have said. Instead of folding and admitting that we weren’t going to win anything. It was incredibly negative.

    We could do with his old head leading our front line, now more than ever

  94. Paulinho

    I made this point a few months ago.

    If you consider that United’s record against the top four last season was pretty poor, then you realise winning the title is largely dependant on winning against the lesser teams.

    Now, although our team isn’t perfect, I think with Arshavin in the squad we are now set up perfectly to beat these lesser sides. Even that dysfunctional formation with Fabregas in the hole and Arshavin on the left, is still packed with intelligence and goals.

    So, if we adopt the same mentality at the start of the season that we had at around Feb/March time, I think we will be up there.

  95. A

    Yeah agreed Mayank, we can win the league with either of them alongside cesc, but we can still do alot better than them, or at least in the position they’re in now, they COULD both become very good players, whether or not they will be

  96. SUGA3

    I think a big name signing would inject some belief into supporters and would give certain individuals a massive kick up the arse ;-)

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