Ok so to start the day with some positivity our full backs who have been the target of new spoiled brats Madrid have come out and said they are going nowhere, well done those men, that’s good news indeed, especially as Clichy was one of Wengers project youth boys.
Sagna has said the stories about him wanting to leave are Daily Mail ‘We hate Arsenal’ lies, par for the course, but Eboue has said he doesn’t want another season where he is a bit player, funny as he played in over 40 games last season but I respect that, he is no longer first choice right back and he hasn’t proved his worth in midfield, shame because I would like to see him as back up, however fair play to the player, he has ruled out playing in the EPL out of respect to the fans, for that he deserves our best wishes, and as I have said many times before, he is still a great right back and better than some we will be keeping.
Note though, the players we will keep are not being sought by anyone else. Funny that eh!
Now we do have a youngster coming through in the reserves by the name of Gavin Hoyte, could he step up? Who knows, time and Mr Wenger alone will tell.
So the latest rumour on the block is Felipé Melo, a Brazilian who is also wanted by Inter Milan, but sources say he would prefer Arsenal, well that makes a change, and he’s 25, the perfect age, we desperately need a tough tackling ball winner as what we have is not ready, well not yet regardless of the Magical stats.
We need to move before the pre season begins and that is in July, so time is of the essence, Vermaelen is still on the cards if he is the one, but I’m still puzzled as to why he haven’t gone after some of the monster type centre backs, still he must know what he’s doing given the trouble we had last season defending, he couldn’t get it wrong again, could he???
Many of you have suggested Djourou as that tough tackling big ball winner in midfield, after all, that was what he joined us as, and that was the reason we let Fabrice Muamba go, but outside of a spud game at Highbury, I can’t remember seeing him in that position, and he does seem a little injury prone, still, so was Clichy, so maybe he has that in mind.
Either way I just wish he would say something, Liverpool the ‘tits up’ team in the top 4 have just splashed out £17 mil on Johnson, good player, but did they need another right back? And how on earth can they keep spending? Makes a bit of a mockery of why we can’t, don’t you think?
Maybe Wenger is waiting for the chavs and Mancs to have spent out before he goes in, also maybe he wants to see which of our players Barcelona want first before deciding who he needs, it would be nice however if he got what he needed now, remember like the days when we competed with Chelsea and Liverpool for Theo, if it was about money we would never have got him, that’s why I don’t believe money is the biggest issue, with all the other teams around us strengthening, we had better watch it.
Come on Arsenal!
Have a great day Grovers, you never know what today may bring!
Le Grove is now smart phone compatible!
Pedro
Geoff
Good morning
Morning GMR!
3rd
2nd actually geoff doesn;t count….
Geoff, did you see Real Mad vs Arsenal 2006 on Arsenal TV last night ??
Gnarley, that was at West Ham and it was our third team, Francis Jeffers led the line, congratulations, that’s like you beating our ladies at cricket!
Kamate
No mate, I made the mistake of watching tough guy, Ross Kemp, never again!
Geoff, I think Liverpool are expecting to sell a few players. The trouble is the only player that anyone wants from them is Alonso & they don’t want to sell him. Of course Gerrard, Carragher & Torres would also be wanted but Torres has just signed a new deal & the other two would never leave anyway.
What do we think of the Hitzelsperger rumour?
I def am not getting his jersey if he comes!!
Geoff
The 1st half was your 1st team, we lead 0-2 @ half time, then you played your 2nd team in the 2nd half which we drew 1-1 with to make it 1-3 overall. Jeffers cam on @ half time.
I have nightmares about Ross Kemp coming to my house at night and murdering my whole family.
Oh and good morning
Daily Mirrir has a picture of Dabiel Levy in Madrid, at the Bernabau and the transfer targets ar Heinze, Robben and Huntelaar – They are persuing all 3 and will cost between 30-40 million for the lot. Not saying I would like those 3 players, but where the fuck is our drive and ambition to go and strengthen!!
I think the Vermaelen deal will go through, still want a ball winner in midfield obviously. Gattuso will blatantly end up at Chelsea after reading the papers today.
Come on Arsenal, dont wait until the very very end!!!!
If England can make it to the last 32, I hope we get in Englands pool. Chamone
The Spanish parliament has bagged Real Madrid for their spending.
Can’t say I remember too much about Hitzlsperger from him time at Villa, other than his extremely hard shot. Judging by his subsequent career though you can only assume he is just an average player. I would much prefer Melo, I’ve been watching him with Brazil & he’s built like Essien, really strong & doesn’t get pushed off the ball.
Eboue got 40 games and he’s not happy? Still I hold more respect for him than Ade.
The fixtures are released today as well people…
Morning all!
Come on Wenger lets sign someone!!!!
And Liverpool paying that for Johnson is just ridiculous! Firstly there is no way that Johnson is worth £17m…fuck me, Arshavin cost that much! Secondly, everyone knows they are in deep financial trouble so why spend so much money on someone who is not going to win you the EPL?? Don’t get me wrong, I like Johnson a lot but not £17m a lot! Benitez is a twat who lives in a fantasy world where Liverpool have their own money printing machine and then throws the biggest tantrum he can when the board say he cant spend any more!
hello every1
and where the f*ck these shite lane c*nts get funds for transfer thing they make net loss (bar keane) adn yet they re in talks to sogn real madrid’s left out
morning all….
geoff how come no mention of that alonso twat injuring cesc fab yet again
August
Sat Aug 15 Everton A
Aug 18/19 UEFA Champions League N Play-off round 1L
Sat Aug 22 Portsmouth H
Aug 25/26 UEFA Champions League Play-off round 2L
Sat Aug 29 Manchester United A
September
Sat Sep 12 Manchester City A
Sep 15/16 UEFA Champions League Matchday 1
Sat Sep 19 Wigan Athletic H
Wed Sep 23 Carling Cup 3
Sat Sep 26 Fulham A
Sep 29/30 UEFA Champions League Matchday 2
October
Sat Oct 3 Blackburn Rovers H
Sat Oct 17 Birmingham City H
Oct 20/21 UEFA Champions League Matchday 3
Sat Oct 24 West Ham United A
Wed Oct 28 Carling Cup 4
Sat Oct 31 Tottenham Hotspur H
November
Nov 3/4 UEFA Champions League Matchday 4
Sat Nov 7 Wolverhampton Wanderers A
Sat Nov 21 Sunderland A
Nov 24/25 UEFA Champions League Matchday 5
Sat Nov 28 Chelsea H
December
Wed Dec 2 Carling Cup 5
Sat Dec 5 Stoke City H
Dec 8/9 UEFA Champions League Matchday 6
Sat Dec 12 Liverpool A
Tue Dec 15 Burnley A
Sat Dec 19 Hull City H
Sat Dec 26 Aston Villa H
Mon Dec 28 Portsmouth A
January
Sat Jan 2 F.A . Cup 3
Wed Jan 6 Carling Cup Semi-Final (1)
Sat Jan 9 Everton H
Sat Jan 16 Bolton Wanderers A
Wed Jan 20 Carling Cup Semi-Final (2)
Sat Jan 23 F.A. Cup 4
Wed Jan 27 Aston Villa A
Sat Jan 30 Manchester United H
February
Sat Feb 6 Chelsea A
Tue Feb 9 Liverpool H
Sat Feb 13 F.A. Cup 5
Feb 16/17/23/24 UEFA Champions League Knockout Round 1L
Sat Feb 20 Sunderland H
Sat Feb 27 Stoke City A
Sun Feb 28 Carling Cup Final
March
Sat Mar 6 Burnley H (F.A. Cup 6)
Mar 9/10/16/17 UEFA Champions League Knockout Round 2L
Sat Mar 13 Hull City A
Sat Mar 20 West Ham United H
Sat Mar 27 Birmingham City A
Mar 30/31 UEFA Champions League Quarter-Final 1L
April
Sat Apr 3 Wolverhampton Wanderers H
Apr 6/7 UEFA Champions League Quarter-Final 2L
Sat Apr 10 Tottenham Hotspur A (F.A. Cup Semi-Final)
Sat Apr 17 Wigan Athletic A
Apr 20/21 UEFA Champions League Semi-Final 1L
Sat Apr 24 Manchester City H
Apr 27/28 UEFA Champions League Semi-Final 2L
May
Sat May 1 Blackburn Rovers A
Sun May 9 Fulham H
Sat May 15 F.A. Cup Final
Sat May 22 UEFA Champions League Final
are the comments fucked?
gooner-pak… 30m for berba 18m for carrick…. thats where they get their cash, and their owned by an investment company i think enic or somthing
That is a killer start !!!
Are we back?
Thats it guys Title challenge over b4 it even started
BEnitez just hides behind \’the need for more players\’ Johnson is avg at best!…and its not hard for a player like him to go from a club like Chelsea and look good at portsmouth.
Really hoping we get some new faces in soon, Melo would be good, but doubt we have the money to splash on both him and Vermaelen. Maybe Wenger is waiting for someone to come in for Gallas and Silvestre or Senderos! No use adding another def if no one leaves.
Yeah!
Morning……
Our 1st game of the season is Everton away!!! Not a bad fixture at all, it will be good for us to get goodison park early and out of the way!!
P.S. Melo is ideal for us and has all the attributes to be a great player for us. If we don’t get melo then I would like to see Inler!
Mornnig all, so the latest 2 possibilities for our DM vacancy are the german and Melo. Someone said yesterday the german was another playmaker.non-detsructive type of CM albeit a bit taller. The brazilian seems to be a bit of a nutter – 17 yellows and 3 reds last season. Did le Grove crash for a n hour just now ?
I think the rational behind the Johnson liverpool move is to get some more Englishness in the team. Johnson is better than Arbeloa IMO anyway. Good move if they pull it
so its Man U, chelsea and Liverpool in successive games in February. at least we dont play another top 4 team after that.
tough start is good news. wenger might actually buy some players for pre season. no way can he afford to wait to 30 Aug again.
Everton away is a really tough old game.
Wed Jan 27 Aston Villa A
Sat Jan 30 Manchester United H
February
Sat Feb 6 Chelsea A
Tue Feb 9 Liverpool H
Thats fucking horrible
Hey! Is it true that transfer window deals cannot be officially announced/signed before the 1st July??
august and jan/feb look to be the toughest!!
its bollox DDM transfer window is open already
I\’d say the rationale is more that it adds another dimension to their play with a genuine attacking threat from full back. I really rate Johnson, and think he\’ll be awesome for Liverpool, though if they\’ve spent all the money they have on him, and don\’t sign another forward then they\’ve been a bit silly imo
It varies depending on where you read ddm, but even if players can\’t officially sign before, the contracts and such like are just post-dated so it doesn\’t really make any difference even if the transfer window doesn\’t open until the 1st July. Only think it changes is that the player\’s registration doesn\’t officially change hands until then.
DDM, yeah thats the \’official\’ start date of the transfer window… i think thats when they can be registered as the clubs player
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yep it is true DDM..
Isnt Melo ACM not DM? If im right then we dont need another ACM, weve got them coming out our ear holes
yeah AT – not a nice sequence of games, (the three against the big boys, villa are an irrelevance) but at least we get the top 4 games out the way early, and after that we\’ve got 12 essentially winnable games. Late push on to the title, or smash the others in those three games then go on to win the last 15, winning the title by 20 odd points, sorted!
morning guys, is it me or do a lot of these fixtures look similar to last year, i would have thought it was a coincidence but after reading article on the bbc site about how the fixtures are produced i think some fixtures will become more and more regular …
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2009/06/secrets_of_the_fixture_compute.html#097608
Comments are fucked, i had to go onto my phone just to comment. Whats up?
All the sites went down…
I went over to ACLF, they were down as well… I also noticed they they seemed to have been confused by Le Champ of they year…
Le Champ isn\’t player of the season… it\’s fan favourite of the year… hence Vik Akers and Steve Bould being amongst the choices.
No he\’s a \”midfield destroyer\” Dan, though I was far from impressed with the ease that Egypt passed straight past him on monday!
Franchise – You cant believe Johnson for £17m is good business?? You think he\’s worth that?
Melo got 17 yellows and 3 reds!!! seriously this guy would be a liability. he would get sent off even more with the refs that hate Arsenal. Aggression is OK but sounds like this guy is more stupid than aggressive.
Dan, it was a wordpress thing… all sorted now.
Incidentally we let Muamba go because he\’s complete and utter dross, not because of anyone else coming in!
Gazzap, he sounds like a legend in the making!
Ah ok pedro, i thought it was the computer I was on causing trouble
What the hell is with all these back slashes?
Gazzap – Agreed, why get him when you could have the same beast without the cards in Cana??
taig i actually think johnson is underrated, and with Liverpool could go on to be one of the best full backs in europe, as long as they let him get forward, (which i\’d imagine is why they signed him so surely they won\’t stop it?!) but 17 mil for any full back is a lot of money. If Madrid were signing him then that\’s the sort of fee i\’d expect to see, but not supposedly cash-strapped Liverpool.
We are back.
Sat Jan 23 F.A. Cup 4
Wed Jan 27 Aston Villa A
Sat Jan 30 Manchester United H
February
Sat Feb 6 Chelsea A
Tue Feb 9 Liverpool H
Sat Feb 13 F.A. Cup 5
Feb 16/17/23/24 UEFA Champions League Knockout Round 1L
Well that\’s a fucking treat now innit?
heheh
no idea pedro, i\’m certainly not typing them!
Why do you do it Pedro, I never look at that site? You encourage them.
Upson up for £15 mil and City favourite to sign him. This is my point, we out him because he is injury prone and not quite enough, now he\’s experienced and 30, he is good enough, when will Arsenal learn than centre backs don\’t get good until they are at least 25???
Senderos will probably be good soon, go back in time Wenger and look at them all FFS Keown, Adams, Bould, O\’leary, Jack Charlton, Bobby Moore, Terry Butcher, Jap Stam and so on, all were great when they were older, look at Gallas for goodness sake.
A – I think he is a good player too but in all honesty he has only had one good year at Pompey (a team in which I would probably shine too) and a handful of good games for England recently.
the back slashes seem to be coming just before any apostrophe….
Franchise 10.14. Loving your optimism !!
Seriously though, how are you gonna watch any Arsenal games next season, if you really believe we\’re dead two months before a ball is even kicked.
Hey A, what’s with the \\ frenzy/obsession ?
Fixtures just announced and already we are having to re-arrange, lol.
Bolton at hom to be replaced by CL Qualifier
They run off the same wordpress server as us… if they are down, it means I haven\’t broken something behind the scenes!
Nice to see they are still talking about us.
A…id admire your optimism mate! villa away is a grim one though especially when we\’ve got the big boys all on the trot… we\’ve got some shocking patches in there so hopefully it might make wenger focus a little more on the depth of the squad
Chary, I\’m sorting it now…
TAIG sometimes u just have to pay what u have to pay. Two clubs were interested there was some sort of competitive bidding going on. 17m in this window isnt over the top. watch the ridiculous prices players would go for. Madrid have messed the market for this season
A – muamba isnt that bad and could have done a good job had he stayed, he is a very good tackler and solid passer, sometimes thats what you need.
Is everyone \\back-slashing like mad now ? I don\’t get them showing up.
Filippe Melo was on my list of players AW should sign this summer if we are really to challenge for the title. He is strong, agressive, technical and match winning minded block. He could patner either Cesc or Nasri in middle and have Song as CB. I suggested this a month ago on Legrove. He is part of the current Brazilian firt team for 2010 WC qualifier and Confederation squad.
Eboue is still a useful squad player for Arsenal and I understand his frustration at the moment. I really don\’t know what happened since he scored his second goal from a penalty; since then, AW withdrawn him from the starting squad and I have to admit that those who replaced him didn\’t do better. We went from an unbeaten run to a two weeks of losing all our most important games of the season. I am still questioning AW\’s wisdom in changing a winning team only to please some fans favorite players, I believe, have f***ed our season. I don\’t think Eboue really want to leave. He was admitting his frustation when asked by Lequipe(French Sport NP). Eboue has never said anything against Arsenal and he has my full support to stay at this club. Our main problems are upfront (lack of striker), lack of physical and agressive DM and in CB where we need a tall and athletic block. Our full-back and wingers are fine for me. Vela and RVP can be effective on left; something AW should try.
not me typing them, they\’re happening by themselves! in the message at the bottom they aren\’t there, only appear when i\’ve pressed send….
geoff upson is nowhere near good enough, even now in his prime, and he wanted to leave when he was even further away from being good enough, we didn\’t get rid of him he demanded a move, and i know that for a FACT!
I like the tough start to the season! We cant have our usual first gear pace going into the new season that we normally do. It could give us a real spring board effect…..or it could fuck us! But this is just another reason why Wenger has to make his signings quickly! I bet most of our new players, if any, wont arrive until after we play Utd!
I seem to be immune to the pre apostrophe back slashing Pedro. See – It’s not happening, and it can’t happen to me !
IC, I reckon we took Eboue out the team, because he\’s not very effective compared to others…
Like Geoff said, a good right back and no more…
Franchise – I guess they have set the tone some what!
thatarsenalguy muamba cant pass to save his life, his passing is below average championship standard! Even bolton fans are unsure about whether or not hes good enough for them because he\’s just sooooo bad on the ball, but very strong off it and solid enough defensively.
apparently the backslashes are when i type a \’, so i just wont punctuate! \’\'\’\'\’
Here you go with a YouTube on Felipe Melo
A every player that is English and left demanded a move, forget how good they are or how good you think they are, they don\’t get a chance, he get them out too quickly.
We will never know how good Bentley, Muamba, Pennant, Sidwell or Upson would have been had they stayed in this team, yet Denilson, Song and Diaby get chance after chance and they are all shit.
And before you say how good are they now, how good would Song Diaby and Denilson have been had we let them go.
Surely there is a bubble lurking in the footballing world of transfers like the sub prime one.
Ronaldo is worth the budget of 2 F1 teams for next year.(if their current proposals pass through)
I for one would like this bubble to burst the earliest.
End of Jan begiining of Feb, isnt that when the african nations is on? We will play the other big 3 and Villa with no toure, Ade, Eboue?
At least chelsea will be with Obi Mikel, Drogba and essien!
i think i know what is happening wih the backslashes
its some technical malarky going on i wont bother explaining
Geoff – Are you then advocating holding onto Swiss Phil??
Paul – That\’s a damn good point! At least we can expect to see no Africans heading our this year!! That\’s not a slight on African players but Ade, Eboue and Song haven\’t helped my love for their ability……
DDM – Don\’t encourage him…..hopefully he\’ll forget about him soon.
Fuck me Denilson said he wanted to move last season and Wenger said no, why did he not say no to the English boys, fucking bigot.
Good time to play Chelsea, but not the rest, it\’s either we step up during that period or our season goes in the shitter.
Geoff Upson had a chance, as you said he wasn\’t ready then, but was only willing to stay if Wenger promised him a regular starting spot, and he wasn\’t willing to go on loan. There was no way he was anywhere near good enough to warrant breaking up the kolo-sol partnership.
Bentley, Upson left because they werent anywhere near good enough to be regulars, but they weren\’t willing to be squad players, they left because they were impatient. Song, Diaby, Denilson are all at the club because they\’ve been willing to hang around for years whilst not being regulars in the first team, their attitudes are much much better than the aforementioned english players, and thats the sole reason theyre at the club now, and the english players arent.
Pennant had all the talent in the world, but his attitude meant he was never going to reach the top, as you can see now, and sidwell and muamba dont have anywhere near the talent to reach the top, so theyre an irrelevance!
Upson was fair enough to an extent in demanding a move, he was behind a fantastic partnership in kolo and sol, and was never going to be good enough to break it up, so was never going to become a regular, and he didnt want to be a squad player.
Bentley is just a bellend, good riddance to him, just like pennant he had alot of talent, but the appalling attitude prevented him fulfilling his potential
No Dennis, I\’m saying he will come good but we can\’t wait, it\’s the same with Bartley and Nordveit, they won\’t be ready for years, but he\’ll play them and they\’ll cost us, then he\’ll sell them and 5 years on they\’ll be world class.
Look at Melo we\’ve been tracking him for 3 years, last year he went for £6.7 mil this year he\’s worth £15 mil.
They only get good when they\’re older, Cesc and Messi are exceptions.
Geoff Upson had a chance, as you said he wasn\’t ready then, but was only willing to stay if Wenger promised him a regular starting spot, and he wasn\’t willing to go on loan. There was no way he was anywhere near good enough to warrant breaking up the kolo-sol partnership.
Bentley, Upson left because they werent anywhere near good enough to be regulars, but they weren\’t willing to be squad players, they left because they were impatient. Song, Diaby, Denilson are all at the club because they\’ve been willing to hang around for years whilst not being regulars in the first team, their attitudes are much much better than the aforementioned english players, and thats the sole reason theyre at the club now, and the english players arent.
Pennant had all the talent in the world, but his attitude meant he was never going to reach the top, as you can see now, and sidwell and muamba dont have anywhere near the talent to reach the top, so theyre an irrelevance!
Upson was fair enough to an extent in demanding a move, he was behind a fantastic partnership in kolo and sol, and was never going to be good enough to break it up, so was never going to become a regular, and he didnt want to be a squad player.
Bentley is just a bellend, good riddance to him, just like pennant he had alot of talent, but the appalling attitude prevented him fulfilling his potential
Upson had plenty of chances to show what he could do…but was constantly injured as I recall it.
Geoff – Most if not all of those players you list, wanted a move. Two of em, Bentley and Pennant thought they were both the real deal already.
Look at who wanted them…Bolton, Brum, Reading!
A Song, Denilson and Diaby are not good enough to be in the team period.
Fuck being nice boys, I would for their money, this is our football club and you should be in if you\’re good enough, not because you are a toad.
Like I said, last year Denilson wanted out, 2 years ago Hleb did, but he played him more.
lol geoff when did denilson demand a move?! denilson never demanded a move, just as flamini didnt. neither were happy with first team football but both were willing to wait longer despite their frustration. upson said in no uncertain terms that he wanted assurances hed be first choice soon, and there was no way that kolo-sol was going to be broken up so wenger couldnt give him those assurances.
it has nothing to do with nationality, look at diarra ffs!
Sharkey read what I said, Upson wasn\’t ready, any more that Phil was, centre backs aren\’t until they are older, that\’s not Upson\’s fault, it\’s Wenger\’s.
It it fixed again to let Man u win?
Arsenal again being linked with unknowns and has beens such as hitzspilger or what ever his name is
We need big name signings such as David Villa
The board are crap big stadium which if it goes on like this will be half full
Yes he did A, he said he will consider his future at the end of the season if he doesn\’t get more games, what did Wenger do? He gave him more games, at our expense.
oh my god this could be really bad!!
Wed Jan 20 Carling Cup Semi-Final (2)
Sat Jan 23 F.A. Cup 4
Wed Jan 27 Aston Villa A
Sat Jan 30 Manchester United H
February
Sat Feb 6 Chelsea A
Tue Feb 9 Liverpool H
Sat Feb 13 F.A. Cup 5
Feb 16/17/23/24 UEFA Champions League Knockout Round 1L
denilson didn\’t demand a move geoff, or he would have gone, its as simple as that.
nothing to do with being nice boys, upson, bentley, denilson, diaby, are all players who would have remained in the squad, though not first choice. denilson and diaby were ok with that, bentley and upson threw their toys out of the pram and said fuck it were off unless were first choice.
What would you have rather, sol offloaded so upson could be first choice?! in the invincibles season?! or pires off so bentley could come into the team?! both when they were nowhere near good enough
the simple fact is that denilson/diaby were willing to wait for their chance, upson and bentley werent
Geoff. On the one hand youre saying players get better as they get older.
Then youre saying get shot of the young players YOU don\’t like cos they WONT improve, and he should keep the young ones YOU do like cos you think/know they WILL improve.
Do you really think its that simple..??
Pedro,
I guess you mean the word effective as it really means. I would tell you that we have a bench of strikers(RVP, Bentner, Ade..), DM(Cesc, Diaby..)and CB(Kolo/Gallas or Silvestre) who are not effective in what they are doing at the moment and they are playing week in, week out and we keep losing. Those positions are where Arsenal is weaker and changes should be made if you are an honest fan with few football knowledge.
That is the problem, players at ManU, Pool and Chelski can sit and wait until they are 25 and be squad players. Wenger has put in the mentality into our club that you have to be a 1st team player at the age of 21+. If you are not, you ask for a move away.
geoff i dont understand what youre saying.
upson left because he wasnt willing to remain if he wasnt first choice
he wasnt close to being good enough then to be first choice
what are you saying we should have done?! we never keep players against their will when theyre determined to leave, and there was absolutely no way upson was willing to stay as a squad player, and there was no way that upson was good enough to be anything more, its pretty simple surely?!
LC – On Pedro\’s behalf….thats not really the tone we like to use over here !!
the fixture is totaly against in jan and feb… as most players will be away for ACN….
Nothing to do with wenger duke, its the fact that english footballers are spoilt little brats from an early age now, and have shocking attitudes. Far from exclusive to arsenal!
Duke..that \’I want it all now\’ in recent years has mainly come from the young English players..not that I wish to stereotype any group
Sharkey, I\’m saying he moves the young English players on sharpish but he keeps the foreign ones, then he plays them even though they clearly aren\’t good enough.
They may end up good, but not yet, and the trio of Denilson, Diaby and Song wouldn\’t get in anyone\’s top 6 side, so how are they in ours?
Rob
If we\’re on a roll we\’ll do all of them. Winning the league isn\’t about beating the good teams anyway. The mancs never won away at any of the 6 teams below them last season. They only beat 1 of the 3 below (home or away)The bindippers beat the chavs and mancs home and away. the mancs were still champions though cunts.
To be fair thats debatable geoff, top 4 fair enough, but top 6 all of those three would be regulars imo!
it has nothing to do with wenger moving on the english players, it\’s to do with the english players having shocking attitudes and not being willing to wait, whereas the foreign players have better attitudes and are. It really is THAT simple.
A & Geoff. Do you not bot think that Upsons injuries were as a big a factor as his ability. Maybe because he\’d lost a couple of seasons* to injuries made him more impatient.
* Not whole seasons obviously
So you know exactly what Upson said then A?
Also if they have such bad attitudes why does he sign them.
Ramsey is clearly more talented than Song and Denilson and he gets the odd game, what the fuck does Wenger think he\’ll learn from the bench?
As in not regulars for anyone in the top 6, but at least one of den/diaby/song would start for both of everton or villa
Everton (h), Bolton (a), Villa (a), Man U (h), Chelsea (a), Liverpool (h) !!!!!
That is TOUGH. Seriously tough. That\’s a 6-game season maker-or-breaker right there!
Starting to get excited already!
Yeah geoff my old football coach was his best mate, have it from as close to the horses mouth as you can get that upson in no uncertain terms demanded a transfer because he wasnt willing to stay unless he was cemented in as a first team player, and with kolo and sol a fantastic partnership there, it wasnt going to happen anytime soon. He didnt ask for more games, or say he would have to reassess the situation if he didnt play more in the following season, he simply demanded a transfer.
Melo is good but a hot head
Sharkey, I agree that the English players are more impatient, but also the Lupoli\’s of the world move along, don\’t think even a nice guy like Clichy would be okay now with a bench role if Cashley never left.
Jan/Feb fixtures are sick,
Bolton will be moved cause of us in CL Q
Upson – 15m
Johnson – 17m
At this rate the winker for 80m makes sense.
All prices are hiked coz of A Rab money!!
though to be fair with upson i wouldnt call it a shocking attitude. he was behind a partnership in kolo and sol that didnt look like it was going to go anywhere anytime soon, and he realised his own limitation in that hed never be able to break through anytime soon, so felt it was best for him to further his career elsewhere
IC, I think the very fact you listed RVP and Cesc as players that aren\’t effective shows how much football knowledge you have…
RVP 20 goals, 11 assists (<- Prems highest)
Cesc 3 goals, 13 assists (<- 3rd highest in Prem)
I'm pretty sure those stats are there or there abouts…
Ineffective… please…
If Toure leaves we should hang on to Senderos.
He\’s decent back up.
The timing of the Melo stories and Eboue talking about leaving. Coincidence?
we r getting left behind – we need some big name signings…
morning geoff and all
morning all,
did ask this earlier but site fell over…..
Did anyone see on Arsenal TV last night they had the Real Madrid vs Arsenal 2006 ECL game ???
Just to name a few players that were in that team;
Senderos – played very well.
Eboue – was excellent at right back
Reyes – was brilliant. Very mobile.
Cesc – very very very impressive
Song – came on as sub
Diaby – came on as sub
Pires – came on as sub
They were up against, Zidane, Beckham, Guti…..Becks was having a really good game vs Flamini.
Who saw it??
Geoff ,
agree in the main mate , the main thing is we have six players who can play at ch , we have four players that can play with cesc as dm , six centre halfs for fuck sake yet we are all screeming for a new one and a def mid . we have seven forwards
its pretty clear that we have too many average , not good enough , no where the 04 quality players
we need a good clearout , raise some cash and buy some damn quality
i saw it wardo and do u know what i thought – i thought that was 3 years ago and how far have Diaby and Song come on…… not a lot!
3 years!!!
Morning Jules, Wardo, it was only Real Madrid!
SharkeySure,
What\’s the tone you want. I think Pedro is responsible person enough to answer a question addressed to him, and him only.
What brighty?! Diaby fair enough, he\’s gone backwards if anything, but Song?! He\’s incomparable even from 6 months ago let alone 3 years!
Franchise you old Motor Paneer (!), i\’ll drop you a line later to firm up our ticket sharing scam
http://community.footballpools.com/blog/2009/06/17/lorik-cana-marseille-defensive-midfield-hardman/
A story made out of nothing but it does explain that we wanted him over for trials but he didn\’t actually come because of Visa issues.
A – to the level that you would expect a top 4 premiership player to be at after 3 years???
Sell Ade lazy ego fucker , sell diaby , eboue , traore , sell bentner , sell silvestre , sell sell sell !! kolo may go so tha should raise 30 to 40 mill .
buy huntelaar , cana , if the vermaelen thing isn,t done zapatta or simliar .
six out three in still loads of cover .
then we would have a chance of doing the business
Visa issues can\’t prevent players going for trials…. Bit weird that it says that in the article
but you know it won,t happen will it !?
Now yeah he\’d a decent premiership level Brighty, though whether or not he\’s good enough for us is very much open to debate.
In terms of how much he\’s improved though, his improvement this season is imo greater than any other player i could think of?? If there was a \”most improved player\” award he\’d win it hands down!
A – I guess it means that at that time there was no way he could play for us so there was no point in having him over for trials? Who knows…..like I said, its a bull shit story anyway….
I\’d be shocked if huntelaar happened jules, wouldn\’t want him! Vermaelen and Cana could happen, Bendtner going obviously won\’t because that\’d just be stupid to let him go!
Hey Geoff – Just to clear up any misunderstandings, i\’m totally in agreement with you over AW\’s handling of younger players, particularly CB\’s…..
DDM yabba dabba dooo
also worries me that we seem to have created a company that can not compete in the market place its in ! great!
yeah it\’s a weird one taig, just the way it\’s reported. I mean yaya spent a whole pre season with us on trial when he couldnt have gotten a work permit!
i like it we\’re linked with another potential maniac in melo, we need someone to give the likes of fat frank and co the kickings they deserve
Pedro,
There is the other statistic that Sky Sports published on Monday that shows Arsenal have conceded more goals when Fabregas is playing. I believe P. Melo is coming because AW doesn\’t think Cesc is really effective in middle, as he tried to move him forward and it wasn\’t working. I guess AW will only keep him if Barca or Real don\’t come in.
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I don\’t believe that for a second lc, wenger rates cesc incredibly highly as a centre mid, he was moved forward mainly because he was unfit, i dout itll be a permanent move. cesc isnt going anywhere either obviously. i wouldnt be surprised if we conceded more goals when cesc was in the team, because when he was out of the team we adjusted to cope with his loss by playing incredibly defensively and solidifying the midfield, so had all those 0-0 draws and such like. it isnt because cesc is weak defensively, its because we as a team were weakened to smuch by his absense we had to adapt to a much less attacking system
lc:
We may have conceeded more with Fabregas in the team than with Denilson and Song/Eboue, but I\’m also sure we scored more, and grabbed more points.
Would you rather have us playing like Bolton/Blackburn?
hi A , how you doing ? maybe Bentner deserves more time , at least he tries his heart out . we need quality , finished article now , we have had the debate about nik before and yes he could develope into a good player , but we have to ask how many top sides he would get into now as we must ask the same of diaby , sivestre , eboue , denilson , song .
as i said befor mate we have six players who can play at c h but we need a new one !! crazy
Good man Dennis!
A if a blind man was given a guide dog, he\’s ability to get about would improve, he\’d still be a blind man though.
Song may have improved last season, but what was his start point?
He is not good enough for this team, all our old legends say it and this week DB10 and Cesc have, what more do you need to convince you???
Ic, it\’s difficult to see how you can slate Cesc?
He might not have had the best season… but the kid is European cup winner and one of the most productive in the league?
Pointing to Cesc being the cause of our defensive problems is a bit like pointing the finger at Almunia for our lack of goals during the 0-0\’s…
I don\’t think you have a point really…
Are you picking on Cesc because I said Eboue was ineffective? You must be related to Eboue to say he his absence was the reason we lost in the FA Cup and Champions league semi\’s…
And fuck the stats, they\’re shit too and make no sense, they only stat I want to see is we finished on more points than everyone else.
bang on A
Ic , cesc has struggled as he not had the quality of pv 04 or gilberto with as we have not replaced them and let flamster go , denilson is not the answer,
buy a solid quality dm arsene , its so fucking obvious , this is for me more of a priority than the ch position .
yeah good cheers jules, yourself?
bendy doesnt deserve more time, hes very close to being a regular. 15 goals in and out of the team so much this season is a hell of a return. hes already a good player, though still has alot more developing to do. he\’d start every game for anyone outside the top 4, but not anyone in the top 4, though he\’s a better 4th choice forward than any of the other top 4.
we dont really have 6 centre backs though, or certainly didnt last season, we had 4, and it was shown that certainly number 4 in silvestre isnt good enough, and neither is jd imo, so we only had 2 up to scratch last season! now weve got a 5th in senderos if he is returning, but still need someone as first choice
Lc.
Well for me its the \’if you knew anything\’ or whatever it was you said.
Arsene is like the polite kid in class, who waits for all the other kids to fill their plates before finding some old, stale leftovers and a few fruits that aren\’t even ripe yet.
Still, he\’s happy. Cause he\’s got a locker filled with ripeing fruit.
Too bad the bullies in class have figured out the combination to his lock.
God, I miss school.
Ic
cesc was having to do two jobs Ic because whats with
is not good enough , why do think he got injured tackling alonso , if pv 04 was playing cesc would,nt have had to make that challenge , cesc would be creating higher up the pitch .
the boy is world class , don,t you get that ?
geoff stats are never shit, they never mean nothing at all, though likewise they never tell the whole story. completely disregarding stats though is just as silly as people claiming that denilson is the best midfielder in the prem
yeah jules, and thats why theres this supposed interest in melo, purely for that reason, to play alongside cesc
Reyes was brilliant in that game. For me – he is the one that got away.
Unbelievable how his career has nose dived in the last two seasons.
Yes…Reyes had the potential to be world player of the year imo…
Anyone who wants to leave there\’s enough proof to see wht happens…..
Morning/afternoon all.
What\’s going on with everyone putting slashes in instead of apostrophies. Soem sort of banter??
Anyway. Bone8, classic description of what Wenger is like. i could actually imagine him being like that hahahahaha.
I remember watching Cesc scamper back whilst PV4 was strolling around upfield.
By that time PV4 had spent time playing in front of Gilberto, and had started to have trouble with his knees.
He wasnt the monster of old. Dont get me wrong, I still think Paddy was the most dominant player I have ever seen in an Arsenal shirt !!!
A
Nikki has done ok , and i love his attitude , better than fucking ade .
swiss phil , silvertre , kolo , gallas , song , jd .
all played at c h and all our players . thats six mate ! yet we can not find a good pairing out of that lot and we all want someone new .
you see my point , too many average players .
main priority has to be quality dm .
maybe gallas and big phil could do a job ??
Iceman re Reyes..you are spot on there.
He had the lot – pace, trickery, great shot in both feet, great vision, great long passing.
All he lacked was the intelligence to know he was on to a good thing at the Arse.
A,
I don\’t believe in your quote. I watch all Arsenal games, and I don\’t need to learn anything from you. Cesc has been and I doubt this will change until we get Viera\’s style DM (in Melo), midfield will remain a talking point next season. Fabregas is our main problem in midfield. We will keep blaming our defending; but when a midfield is lackking agression, speed and defensive aptitude,you can\’t always put the blame on the defence. AW saw this, as well as Delbosque who doesn\’t risk playing Cesc in middle for Spain. He plays him just behind the main striker.
reyes got scared off by gary neville and co. they new he was good so battered him, he didnt has the balls for the premiership
Sharkey
I use pv 04 for as the example of the type of player .
Jules …Galllas and Big Phil did a very good job in Kolos absence.
Then Kolo came back from ACN waited for about one and a half games and Big Phil was out!!
Im an AKB and I know that was a big mistake on Arsenes part. Phil has to keep playing to get into and stay in the groove.
Clacko – slashes are added to every apostrophe. Im trying not to use them
not the crap we now , pv 04 in his prime and cesc
different story .
Yeah i think they could be a good pairing jules, but id rather someone better came in. Just because song has played centre back doesnt mean that he is a centre back! this season we didnt have senderos, so had 4 centre backs in the squad which is the optimal number really. now with senderos back weve got five, six if song gets moved to centre back on a permanent basis, which remains to be seen. so we need to offload silvestre, or write him off simply as someone to be in the squad for experience in the changing room etc, and then offload one more, most likely toure or gallas, and maybe senderos too, then bring in vermaelen, and one other depending on whether one or two go and whether song is considered a centre back or a midfielder.
Sharkey
I agree , i think big phil and gallas could be ok
with jd and song as back up , sell silvestre , i think kolo would go .
sign a really quality dm , that has to be the priorty .
phil and gallas give you the hieght and quicker player to cover and clean up combi , may be good
Jules I’d say the number one priority has to be a top centre back, then a top DM, both are necessary to make us a really great team though.
no what what your saying A . have to agree , but you see my point about the amount of players we have in these positions but not all good enough ?
clear out time for me .
A
Yep , if kolo , phil swiss and silvetre go then yes has to be a quality ch and quality dm .
uhmm . now how long have we been saying on here we need two qualty signings at c h and d m !!!???
drives me mad ! so frustrating that we only need to address this to be really competitive .
just do it Arsene FFS!
It depends jules, we need a squad, we don’t have too many players imo, except for in the forward department, and now the centre backs, if senderos has returned. central midfield we certainly don’t have too many players, the only one i reckon we could afford to offload there would be diaby, and even then he offers something the others don’t.
we currently have a squad of 2 keepers, 2 right backs, 2 left backs, 5 centre backs, 2 more defensive midfielders, 2 more offensive, nasri and rosicky can play centrally, then 7 forward players/wide me!
Okay A, lets take stats, a completed pass.
If a pass goes to a player who has 3 defenders on him at great speed, can’t control and then loses it, it goes down as a completed pass.
If a player passes it backward 20 times a game like Song and Denilson do, it goes down as a completed pass.
If a player has a shot and either scuffs it or it hits the corner flag, it goes down as a shot nonetheless.
The Carling Opta stats were invented by a bird who I never heard of and Don Howe as a consultant, so please, don’t tell me they mean Jack shit, they don’t.
They are the anorak of football, if Wenger wants to see a stat, see how many points we ended up with since 2004, that will tell you that his team aren’t good enough, all the stats in the world won’t win us trophies.
Ok. We hate stats on individual players. They don’t give the full picture. So how about the simplest stats of them all- league tables?
So the thing that obviously matters the most is points, and that in itself is a stat- games won, drawn, lost etc.
In my opinion, the most useful and the simplest way of looking at a season is goal difference.
Take the top 4.
GF GA
1 Manchester United (C) 38 28 6 4 68 24 +44 90
2 Liverpool 38 25 11 2 77 27 +50 86
3 Chelsea 38 25 8 5 68 24 +44 83
4 Arsenal 38 20 12 6 68 37 +31 72
Simply put, we scored the same amount of goals as Chelsea and Man Utd. Conclusion? Our offensive side to the team is fine.
Defensively, we are way behind. 37 goals conceded compared to Man U and Chelsea 24 and Liverpool 27. Conclusion? We need to improve the defensive side of the team.
Easy!
(Look at Fulham – 7. Fulham 38 14 11 13 39 34 – conceded 3 goals less than us but only scored 39. Clearly they need to buy goalscoring midfielders and strikers)
Jules – a lot of people would have Big Phil quite near the top of any clear out list.
Im not one of them.
Personally I think a fair few of our nearly men need a simple attitude adjustment. Arsene indulges them far too much. Play poorly for 90mins start again next week.
How on earth Diaby got as many mins as he did is beyond me. Take him off at half time and send him a message, that for a player with his natural talent, strolling around ain’t good enough. Regardles of what position youre playing, a certain amount of effort is required.
AdeNuff started both legs of the CL semi… which is unbelievable after his woeful showing in the 1st leg
Is this Melo chap a big ‘ol unit then??
You just proved my point Chipo, thanks mate!
Aggressive Dennis, not big.
we’ve got pretty much enough players, its just that allot of them arent good enough!
yes geoff that’s why they’re misleading, but no stat means nothing, stats can never be completely disregarded, it’s ridiculous to do that, but likewise they don’t tell the whole story. All the stats in the world do win us trophies, top managers are obsessive with stats, everything in football can be broken down and analysed much much deeper than how most fans think, and analysed very mechanically. Stats NEVER mean nothing, but they NEVER tell the whole story, noone who thinks about things rationally could argue either of those are the case!
Diaby is a strange one , he can be amazing and then completely crap , for me he is not a dm , he ois too casual and we have enough attacking mids so sell him .
also he has been there a long time now and has,nt really develpoed plus he gets injured getting out of bed .
What’s up with the slashes men!!!!
YAYA TOURE AIN’T NO COME TO ARSENAL , HE IS JUST ABOUT TO SIGN A NEW CONTRACT. ( at least after the agent threatened Laporta)
SAKHO’S AGENT NOW SAYS he can only go to Germany or England ( I can see Wenger’s involvement there with Silvestre in exchange plus some money)
FELIPE MELO or HITZSPEILGER( WHATEVER ) SHOULD BE THE LAST ADDITION.
IF TOURE GOES TO MAN CITY THEN WE GET RICHARDS PLUS SOME CASH.
LET ME NOW POST AND SEE WHETHER THIS SLASHES ARE AS ARESULT OF MODERATION.
Sharkey…
Real turned his head.
But if he had been more focsued like Cesc he would be so far ahead. If only.
I don’t really see the point in richards plus cash, unless richards in as a sub centre back if eboue goes, that could make money i guess?
http://www.imscouting.com/global_news_item.aspx?id=2338
he’s 6ft
According to a report on Setanta, the agent of the young PSG defender, Mamadou Sakho, has said he prefers to move to England or Germany rasther than Italy.
The report said: Mamadou Sakho’s agent has confirmed that Inter have enquired about the PSG starlet.
While the French press have claimed that the Nerazzurri have offered Paris Saint Germain a swap with Patrick Vieira, the defender’s agent has confirmed holding talks with the Serie A champions.
The highly rated 19-year-old France Under-21 international has also been linked with Arsenal, and Tim Hager, his representative, has claimed that Sakho will turn his back on the Italian league, as he would rather move to either The Premier League or the Bundesliga.
“He doesn’t want to play in Italy,” Hager told Calciomercato.
“We are yet to make a decision regarding his next destination, but moving to an Italian club is not on the cards.
“Where is he going to move? In Germany or England.
“I can confirm that we have been contacted by Inter, but it was a while ago.”
Sakho has been linked with Arsene Wenger for over a year. Is it about time he brought Sakho to Arsenal?
well said arsenal tom .
being saying it all morning !
A-
“Stats NEVER mean nothing, but they NEVER tell the whole story”
You are undeniably right there but it’s a pretty ambiguous statement nonetheless!
Geoff no worries, I am here to serve
I do think the goal difference stats are pretty accurate though. If we had a quality backup to Gallas when he got injured, and a DM to partner Cesc. We would have come very close to winning the league. Simple as.
Richards could play CB.
He’s a beast. We could do with one in our light weight starting 11.
is,nt Richards under 6 ft aswell ?
apart from he’s crap at centre back currently iceman, gone backwards so much that he wasn’t even picked for city there ahead of onuha last season!
Geoff, I am upset, and I think a new rule is in order, if you think that Cesc and Arshavin are not the greatest thing that has ever happened and have weaknesses you get an automatic ban for a week.
Also a day ban is in order for people who think Vermaleen is short.
Passing stats are bollocks . David Batty would have had amazing stats and looked class on paper but the bloke never made a forward incisive pass in his life !
right on Geoff ?
Duke
is he not then ?
A to finish on the stats my friend, I run a London based Advertising agency and have used stats to prove whatever my customers want proving for years, it makes them feel they are right in what they do, giving them the back up they need to do what they were going to do regardless.
I could prove black is white or red is green, that’s what stats are good for, trying to prove you are right.
That, or someone else is wrong.
Duke and Jules, you are both right so Duke let that be the rule!
Cheers Geoff, i think outta the two ‘attributes’ i’d take an aggressive player as opposed to a big lump who doesn’t impose himself, a la Song……
Me too Dennis, I actually don’t think Song is as big as people think, I think he’s under 6 feet tall.
Duke 12.32. I’ll second that.
Shakey, cheers. The motion has been passed, thanks Geoff
Have to agree , i can not see how people can question cesc when the bloke has not had a serious partner .
we have failed to replace Gilberto / Flamini
i hope this is done so cesc can get back to be the class act he is .
song doesnt look big… he wouldnt worry you if you played him on a sunday morning, but someone with flam/gattusos relentless runnng and tackling would
cesc and arshavin are well over rated and dont get me started on that short ass dutch fella
Afternoon everybody
Atom, also he is 2 young, my Sunday team would never employ a 21 year old as a DM, that spot is usually taken by the older, cooler head, who’s body is fully developed
Bye Nick
best do some stuff
have a good afternoon all
why cant cesc and arshavin be as strong as essien? they are the weakest link. good bye
verm is not short nick he is vertically challenged
Stats are a good excuse for a poor player imo!
A good player can be seen a mile off, always wanting the ball making decisive passes that start an attack or even prove crucial to winning a game. A good player will always prove to be the difference between drawing games and winning them. If you have to use stats to show that you are a good player them quite simply your not.
Does Gerrard or Torres or Arshavin or Vidic or Terry etc have to use stats to prove that they are good footbalers?? No, we know they are…
franchise you crack me up been reading ya posts today “now shut up and talk football or fuck off”
ESSIEN IS CURRENTLY TRAINING IN KENYA FOR THEIR NEXT WORLD CUP QUALIFIER GAME.
Clacko, excellent point mate, when was the last time you checked up some stupid stat like pass accuracy for any of the players you mentioned.
The people who come here with stats think that we are all stupid or that we are school kids or something?
I watched every single game this year, watched Denilson and thought he might be a good player one day, but no way now, and no way as Cesc’s partner, he is his understudy, if Cesc gets injured or needs a rest Den should take his place next to our monster (Cana pls).
That is what I gathered from seeing Den play 50 odd games over the years. But then some guy came on here and showed me the stats, OH how wrong was I? Den is actually the best DM in the PL, how could I be so blind? I have now changed my stand, and it is Cesc who should be sold as Den’s stats are much better this season and we should find a partner for him and not Cesc!!!
Fran, I would take the fuck off option from Nick on offer, sounds great
AK, any chance you can break him for a season or 2? Maybe kidnap him…
kenya… try and sign him for arsenal… if you cant, then break him
Clacko
read my 12.32 if you like mate .
Duke , my mate just got back from Maritius where he bumped into Vermaelen and said there is a little confusion about his hieght , he said how tall atually are you , Thomas said he is 6 ft 8 !
catch you in the week then !
hahahah jules, Thomas is great
Also just found this:
“Newcastle striker Xisco admits he is unsure of his future after a disappointing first season on Tyneside – and admits he may leave on loan.”
He should record the 2nd part to the Thong Song.
Arsenal 12-1 to win the league because we have the easiest run in, if he makes the right signings, we can really get off to a flyer, ManU are normally slow and those early doors games are often tight, us last term, 1 nil WBA as an example.
Make the right signings and we can fly, Cana over Melo and he’s £5mil cheaper or at least one of them please!!!
how about
x i s c o , what a shit song that was !
must go
good day all
See you Jules!
Jules 12.32, classic mate!! look likes i just elaborated on what you said
cheers Geoff
indeed Clacko
see ya later jules.
and how shit was Batty !
cheers guys , see you later
See you jules
Duke & Arsenal Tom – I will send my snipers with two female anopheles mosquitoes to his room tonite… and then hope that will weaken him like Toure for some months before he catches up and we will be on top of the league….
The arsenal fixtures are nice since Wenger will now buy befor mid July 2009 and close shop!!!
Duke & Arsenal Tom – I will send my snipers with two female anopheles mosquitoes to his room tonite… and then hope that will weaken him like Toure for some months before he catches up and we will be on top of the league….
The arsenal fixtures are nice since Wenger will now buy befor mid July 2009 and close shop!!!
WE WILL BE FOCUSED FROM THE START TO THE END!!!
Start the preseason! I am bored already!
I like the fixture list, if we get past through the New Year period, we could well be on our way to winning the league.
Just saw the fixtures.If we are still contention at the end of feb we definitely have a great chance of clinching the league
Lc,
I agree with your assesment of Cesc. This season, he has not helped our team: poor passing, inability to track back and generally not good enough. I sometimes wonder if its got to do with the armband? No, I think not. His natural game is slow, we will still need a CM who can play both feet and is fast. If I knew that guy, I wouldn’t mind selling Cesc.
Afternoon all. How many players are we being linked with today then?
More significantly, are any of them through puberty yet??
The Blue Samurais have been put to the sword 2-1. Tim Cahill scoring twice, with Oz coming from behind.
Guys isn’t it time we just took Usmanov/Kroenke’s money and started buying world class players???
At the end of the day I don’t give a shit whether the club is in debt or not. Man Utd are £620m in debt and their fans dont give a shit cos they are winning trophies and buying world class players.
Liverpool are supposedly in financial turmoil but they have just shelled out 17-20m on Glen Johnson!
Tradition, tradition bollocks bollocks – I just wanna see the bets players in the world playing for my team and us winning trophies.
I’m sick of shelling out £1100 a season to watch a load of average kids who MIGHT make it.
By the time they do (if they do) our best players will have left (Cesc etc).
Fed Up.
Pedro,
Are you related to Cesc then? To answer your question, I say, No; I am not related to Eboue; but as an Arsenal fan supporting Arsenal, and not any player, I believe we need to be consistant with our criticism of our players. This not the case at the moment. Eboue had his bad times and I think he did deserve what he had to go through; sometime he had to endure humiliation. But he came back well. This should not be over-looked, as well as when players like Cesc Fabregas or RVP are not doing well, it’s ok in the eyes of fans like you to keep it quite. You are not helping Arsenal we are all working so hard to see winning something at the end of the season. No one should be free from any criticism. This is my only concern.
lc say hi to ur cousin Eboue next time u see him ok. Cheers
Usually we face united,chelsea and liverpool during UCL games.This is much better but wish it wasn’t 3 in a row.Thats too much for any team
Ditto Brighty, i’m with you brother. Whilst I don’t want to see the club in financial straits I can’t help but wonder if the club’s profits are more vuluable to the board than winning trophies nowadays.
It’s always been the case at Arsenal though. I remember even going back to selling the likes of Brady and Stapleton to the George Graham era of singing “Georgie, get your cheque book out”.
Anyone got an opinion???
Anybody? No? Dust?
Confidentgoner,
Thank you, for seeing my point about Cesc Fabregas.
Brighty u r a spud in disguise
Geoff! Pedro! DDM! Irish! And the rest of the Grove-dwellers, hope you are all well.
So…whats the latest on the transfer front?
Im hearing that Melo and Hitzel-something are our targets? What the fuck???
Is this AW trying to create a smoke screen and go for the ‘real’ targets?? I hope so!
Moderation??? What the fuck??????!!!!!!!!
Franchise – u just went too far mate!!….
Spuds, Spuds, they are everywhere, HELP!
im with u brighty im this close to joining the harry revolution
Master P, you amended your name a bit… you should be fine now!
IC, youre statement makes no sense?
Why are you criticising Cesc and RvP?
Are you saying Eboue has been more important to the team than those two?
Join the harry revolution
there is no levy its free
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The only reason we are behind Thomas Hitzlsperger is because he is available for cheap.He is an okay but miles away from world class.Looks like a silvestre kindaa signing to me if it happens.Really don’t understand how there can be a problem if we sign 1 DM lets say around 12-15 million
http://goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2009/06/17/1330500/breaking-news-javier-mascheranos-agent-in-barcelona-for
Since its goal.com there is a good chance it will be crap.But if its true then surely yaya will be leaving
i hate the off season
fuck
Brighty if u still there i was just kidding
steve… been linked with felipe melo… hes 25, brazil international… and the best bit… 17 yellows & 3 reds in his first season
When do we find out our opponents in the UCL qualifier
Just saw the Fixture list
Everton A
Pompey H
Man Ure A
Man City A
Fuck that is tricky (Apart from the Pompey Game). This has to kick Wenger into some action. We cant still be looking for signings on deadline day again…..
When does the ACON start ?
Some of those fixtures are dam hard jan/feb for starters
I for one would hate to see us becoming the whore of whichever billionaire asked us to bend over.
Hoovering up players in the way that Chelski did was out of order. They bought players just to stop their rivals gettibng them
And when you dismiss Chelski’s titles as being bought, Chavs have no answer.
I love the fact that Arsenal as aclub has principles and a lot of class about them suits me fine.
Either way, its not like I can go and support another club !!
With or without trophies I’m stuck with Arsenal, I’m no wifebeater.
Eboue is in my opinion a very good player but there are very few Arsenal fans that respect that. He is too good to be a back up for Sagna and not 1st choice in any other positions and its unfair on the player to constantly be shuffled around (can you seriously see any other player playing at RB, RW, CDM, CM, LB, LW, AM). No, and this speaks volumes about the players ability.
I would rather prefer to see Eboue at RB than Sagna because of Eboue’s better abilities going forward but I can’t see Sagna leaving either. Eboue and Sagna probably make our best combination on the right hand side but that is detrimental to Walcott’s development.
However that being said, if Eboue were to leave then buying Richards may well be an irrisistable proposition. I see Richards primarily as a right back able to fill in as a centre back if required. He is out of form and out of favour right now and going for cheap (remember when he was being valued at £18 mil?). He is however still young and under Sagna and Wenger’s tutelage I’m sure he can recapture and find his form.
Perhaps Richards is the best choice to play second fiddle to Sagna. For now.
I think we should:
Sell Senderos
Sell Silveste
Sell Toure
Sell Clichy
Sell Eboue
Sell Fabregas
Sell Van Persie
KEEP THE REST OF THE PLAYERS
Bring back Traore
Bring back Jay Simpson
Have faith in Rosicky
Bought Vermalaen
Buy Michah Richards
Buy Sakho/Zapata/Bassong
Buy Cana/Melo
= JOB DONE with cash left spare.
We do not need Fabregas, we have Nasri.
We do not need Van Persie, we have Arshavin
Well said Sharkey
If Arsenal went bust… you’d have to give up supporting a club wouldn’t you?
You’d have to be one of those…
‘I don’t really support anyone, I support football’
… type of fans.
ATOM, sounds good to me mate. I for one would welcome a big arse nasty cunt in the middle of the park.
8 inch knob… Eboue is jack of all trades, master of none.
He doesn’t excel in any position… and at 25, that has to be a worry.
Leave off Pedro, 1/2 my life would be gone.
LC.
In fairness I too have a gripe about how some players are almost immune from criticism, whereas others are up before the firing squad almost every week
People do judge how well a player has played partly based on how much they like them and how they’ve performed in the past.
I guess its partly human nature, but it does also lead to unfair judgements, which is why past offences are not allowed in court cases.
He was a good right back Pedro, Wenger has fucked his career by turning him into a jack of all trades. I hope he goes somewhere and excels for them at RB. It’s the least he deserves.
Pedro,
I am not really answering your last question; but I am putting into prospective how our season ends and the players who were pivotal to it. We’ve lost all our key games of the season in two weeks, playing RVP and Fabregas. We’ve won games in the same period against average teams where sundainly Cesc being one of our best performers; but in the same time, Eboue was on the bench coming on only to chase a lost cause.
What you think about that?
Sell cesc? He is the one of the best in his position.If xavi plays with song and denilson i am pretty sure even he will look ordinary.
8 inch knob… are you mental?
sell clichy RVBP & cesc but not song or diaby?
ive seen it all now! lol
steve, 15m is being quoted though but i agree he sounds just what we need… he could be another PV for us with that kind of card record!
Sell Clichy 8 inch??? Why sell the best left back in the league (maybe bar Evra)???
Fuck me, most of us are willing the board to go out and buy top players to compliment the ones we have and you want to get rid of all the ones we have.
eboue was fucked when he had to play CM and LM, even as an emergency right winger he did a job for us. putting him in the other posistions he was bound to fuck up
8 inch knob, that is the worst post I have ever seen in all history of Le Grove. You have to be ashamed of yourself.
Well thats the thing Pedro….
People call for massive spending and think billionairs just turn up and give clubs THEIR OWN CASH like a sugar daddy treats a young playmate.
Look at Liverpool, Man U and Chelsea…all in DEBT, and in all those cases a fair chunk of that debt is to their ‘billionaire owners’.
Fuck..Gillet, Hicks and the Glazers didn’t even use their own money !!
One day that young hottie wakes up to find her house is rented, the cars leased, and her credit cards are cancelled.
Then she’s back to selling burgers…prob at the Emirates for £5 a pop
Its really funny.Here we are blaming wenger for letting some key players go last season and some come out and suggest that we should sell clichy,cesc and rvp.But i guess everyone has their own way of looking at things
And here is a song for Wenger, I think we should bombard him with this video
SharkeySure,
Yeha! this is the point I am making and I am accused of slating Cesc Fabregas and being related to Eboue for defending him.
Afternoon/evening…
Melo eh?… Sounds okay, anyway i was on vacation for the past 5 days with a complete media blackout and was hoping to see vermaelen holding a red and white jersey today. That turned out well.
IC, I’ve criticised Cesc for bad games… but insinuating Eboue would have changed those important results is a bit fantasy land.
The guy rarely changes a game…
Steve, I don’t think he was that good as a right back… wenger wouldn’t have replaced him if he was. He quite often left us exposed due to his lack of positioning…
I hope he goes on to do well… but I wont miss him.
I feel for Eboue. That day at the Emirates was as bad as i’ve ever felt to be associated with Arsenal fans. If we could have fucked off back to Highbury i’d have done it that day.
The fact is that we need a new CB and a new DM.So we have no other choice but to go out and spend some money.If we don’t it doesn’t make us different from chelsea and united but instead will make us look fucking stupid
I disagree Pedro. His last season at right back was impressive. We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. I hope he goes on to be a success if it’s out of the Premier League.
Agree Nish.
lol @ 8 inch:
I think we should:
Sell Senderos
Sell Silveste
Sell Toure
Sell Clichy
Sell Eboue
Sell Fabregas
Sell Van Persie
KEEP THE REST OF THE PLAYERS
Bring back Traore
Bring back Jay Simpson
Have faith in Rosicky
Bought Vermalaen
Buy Michah Richards
Buy Sakho/Zapata/Bassong
Buy Cana/Melo
AND FINISH 11TH!
Ic, you said:
Then insinuated the reason we lost our most important games was because Eboue was omitted…
I don’t think anyone in the world of football pointed to Eboue as the reason we lost to the Chavs and the Mancs…
Duke Says:
June 17, 2009 at 14:00
8 inch knob, that is the worst post I have ever seen in all history of Le Grove. You have to be ashamed of yourself.
lol! you sound like blog teacher… fucking quality mate!
8 inch.
Not good enough. See me.
I think the FA should introduce a new rule for next season.
If Eboué and Diaby start a game together, Arsenal are allowed 12 players. That would count them for half each- about right!
(then again, Spurs would have to be allowed about 18 players!)
I won’t slate eboue that much cos asking a defender to play in the midfield is a tough task.Even though eboue somehow attacks really well when he is made to play at RB.Diaby is useless.No work rate,real lack of intelligence etc
hahaha atom, cheers
8 inch, get your parents on Le Grove tomorrow morning.
Man U away third game of the season. Hey, at least we can lose it and not say our season is over!
eboue made a bib big diffrance to our midfield when he wasn’t in it, it got better cesc on the other hand was a problem coz he was injured and not in it
everybody thought he was a cock happy days
apparentely fiorentina are interested in senderos… could be good news on the melo front
I never thought I’d feel sorry for an 8 inch knob…
Pedro,
No, this is not my point. I mint that we were weaker in middle with Cesc. AW has to twiste things around, probably sacrify Walcott for Eboue who is defensively better and read the game well as well.Both players are useful to the squad, because we need to regain possession, Eboue is more effective than Cesc as Cesc is more when we are attacking. Having a cautious approach wins more CL or key games than all gon blazing attacking display AW went for in our key games.
Thank you for now, Pedro. I am off! Have a good day all Grovers. Don’t take it very badly.
steve your comment re eboue ill agree with that, he was capable at Rb and wenger brought sagna who is a better player but was not a necessity. in midfield its clear song/den might well turn into great players in the future but are struggling now but seems reluctant to replace them for fear of killing their carer hard to work out.
wenger brought sagna to save money long term cos he thought eboue would be a good winger, that way the only outlay would be the price of sagna (6-7m) to replace him at RB
Catch you later IC
Cheers Nick. The poor cunt was actually playing left wing when he got booed. it’s just not right to do that to a player, bearing in mind he’d just come back from injury too.
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steve to be fair i still hate the fecker, but feel bad for him at a level as well im a complex fucker
Atom well that plan was floored
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Chipo 14.08 Good one
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ddm, who do you want us to buy this summer?
Replace them with who DDM…??
Arsenal are close on Vermalen with a fee of 10 million agreed. Sahko is a definite target and 5 million has already been offered and turned down. Wenger will come back and offer 8 million + Gallas while Hangeland is still on the radar with Wenger only willing 2 offer 10 million while Fulham want 15. Bolton have bid in excess of 10 million 4 Veloso but Wenger is monitoring developments. Blaise Matudi may stay with St.Etiene while Mohamdou Dabo is a definite replacement 4 Eboue. The big shock move is 4 Stuttgart’s Thomas Hitzelsperger the German international who has one of the most powerful left–foots in Europe and only a year left on his contract Arsenal have been quoted 5 million.
You are the oracle Nick.
“Manchester United have made a long-term decision not to sign any players aged 26 or above for large transfer fees because of new financial stipulations that have been put in place at Old Trafford to shape the club’s recruitment policy
…they will sign players in big-money deals only if they will retain a significant market value some years after signing a five- or six-year contract.”
- Report in the Guardian.
So now they are copying Arsene’s policy and trying to balance the books a bit.
‘Resale Value’ is an interesting concept considering their previous spending patterns, and their decision to cash in on Ronaldo.
The end is nigh..?? I fucking hope so….
Hold the back page. Myles Palmer’s descent into self-obsessed imbecility gathers pace. He says that IF Arsenal sign Vermalen and Melo then he might get interested in them again. He further states that Wengers £13 million budget will not stretch far. Can someone tell me when the £13 million pound became official and not just a figure plucked from the ether by some Daily Mail tosser? He knows how much Liverpool will pay Johnson and how much various clubs owe each other. Is the man as big a fool as he assures us with every utterance?
i am watching the Spain game and although it has only just started, i must say Xavi has got a great pass. Also he seems to play a bit more as a DM. Sits back and just spreads it everywhere. He is definately their playmaker!!
Firmly Lou. The man’s self satisfying, delusional bollocks knows no bounds.
steve your wrong Myles is the oracle obviously
Clacko, I would like Cesc to play like that, I think Viera would be his perfect partner, both could move forward and both could fall back.
Myles Palmer knows nothing… According to him liverpool are the club that’s going to win it next year… While that may happen its not a very probable scenario with the financial constraints and Rafa at the helm they don’t have much of a chance… We all like Torres but he’s as much a crock as RvP and Gerrard can only take you that far… Anyway he’s just another writer feeding off the fan’s fears rather than offer anything new so i don’t pay much attention to him.
Myles rocks
Duke agree there mate. He could do a brilliant job doing that. I almost cried when wenger put him behind the striker, it is way to clear that he can’t play there.
Myles is just misunderstood like Osama
fran i cant play on the other shit im bared bunch of cunts
fuck nick
The only thing Myles rocks is the boat. Some people actually believe in his shit.
Steve. I am with you. People like Palmer always speak as if they are the men in the know. Theit have sensitive tentacles of networks than delve deep into the heart of football. Personally, I can imagine that Arsene rings him most evenings to moan about the board and seek his advice on who to buy. That must be where he had the £13 million transfer fund confirmed. In fact I have no doubt at all that Palmer is a firm friend of both Vermalen and Melo and has told them of Arsene’s interest. It only remains for Palmer to negotiate their contracts before he returns to his full-time occupation of writing biographies. His next is about Saddam Hussein and is called How I Pulled The Lever.
Nick is ‘bared’ and Franchise wants to ‘fuck’ him. This is all a little homo-erotic for my liking.
I was in Diamond club the day that Eboue got booed, I didn’t boo, because I never have and I would have been kicked out, but if I could have got on the pitch, I would have beaten the shit out of him, he gave the ball away and that was bad enough but when he tackled his own player and passed to their forwards I could not believe it, and might I add nor could they.
Wenger deserved the boos that day, he subbed the sub to save himself, cynical, very cynical and he should still feel ashamed, he engineered it to save himself.
fuck pause nick
not fuck (off) nick
steve its u i want
I have my own opinions and here’s why:
Van Persie. Not consistent enough. One good season and the fucker is demanding 90,000 a week. Too selfish, too greedy, doesn’t fit in with Wengerball, constantly dives, gives away needless freekicks, takes the majority of our direct free kicks yet hasn’t scored from one in nearly 3 years, too often is anonymous in games and is not flexible enough to play in anything other than a 4-4-2. Pathetic as a winger or front man, his best position is as second striker. this is where I feel Arshavin, Diaby, Bendtner should play. Maybe not Arshavin because I prefer him cutting in from the left where he seems best but definately Diaby. Diaby should be promoted further upfield. Bendtner is 21 for fucks sake and our 3rd highest scorer. Realistically Ade is not gonna get more than what he is on now unless someone is stupid enough to take him. I don’t see that as a negative tho because perhaps that should strive him on to do better. Nikky B as second striker and Adebayor up front would be a frightening prospect. I would like to see Ade of 07-08 hustling alongside Nikky B’s new found hustle. Plus we’re gonna sign Vermalaen who is hardly his best mate, is he?
Cesc. Sorry mate. One of my favourite players at one point when I too was caught up with the hype but for large parts of this season I watched Cesc and saw a man not happy with himself. I don’t blame him. He is best mates with Flamini and Senderos as well as many of his Spanish colleagues. But unfortunately I do not see them coming back nor any Spaniards joining our team. Fabregas’s style is more that of the style of Xavi and Alonso. He is not the swashbuckling attacking partner like Iniesta and Gerrard but a player who plays deep and creates from deep. That is from where his vision and passing range are at their best. Unfortunately he falls far too short in his defensive duties and is too slow. That in itself would’nt be such a hindrance but for the fact that he is also still a bit too lightweight. He needs to improve and stand up for himself. At the moment, when his passing game is off he is a liability to the rest of the team. And it has been last season. Our best run came when Fabregas was out injured and I think it’s during this time that the team found another way to play without Fabregas. Nasri in my opinion is the answer to life without Fabregas. That as well as his constant admirations for Barcelona makes it hard to refuse a big money offer for him doesn’t it?
Clichy. Love him to bits but am liking Kieran Gibbs even more. Clichy may be one of the best around but this guy is gonna be even better. A left sided Danni Alves. lol. Gibbs has played against the very best and that includes players like Ronaldo, Valencia (Man U want him), Kuyt, Riera, Anelka amongst others and you know what, I think he’s done a pretty darn good job and keeping them quiet. Bounced back from that Champions league slip, this boy is tough as old boots already and plays for the club. Proper home grown British talent. Better going forward than Clichy and crossing is way, way better. Defensively just as good from the few games I have seen him play so far but the biggest ask is whether he can last a whole season. Probably not judging by our injury records. But’s that’s where Traore will come in to add to rotation options. When you consider that Vermalaen and Gallas can also play there it adds a lot of options and cover. We are truly blessed at left back.
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nick bared
franchise fuck nick
8inch knob
le grove rocks
HAHAHA spot on Lou. By Palmer’s own admission Wenger will only share his thoughts with very few within his inner circle. I think GG had discussed certain topics in passing with him during his tenure and that is how he qualifies his ‘inner knowledge’.
Bearing in mind that the current board and management wouldn’t piss on George Graham if he was on fire i’m not entirely sure how that works but hey ho. Don’t try to use logic where Myles is concerned.
Worrying times indeed Franchise.
This used to be a site for the real men of football.
Nick is bared
Franchise fuck nick
8inch knob
le-grove rocks
I though he subbed Eboue to save us 3 badly neeeded points.
I thought it ws hars gh on Eboue…but he needed saving from himself.
I’m not sure I could have let any player have another ten mins of the stick he was getting, especially if you could see it was killing him, and there were 3 pts at stake
steve are u not entertained? are u not entertained.
really off season is a nightmare.
i need to find a new passion apart from football and blogging about football
Once more Franchise, harder this time…
Haha my thoughts exactly… Either don’t have end of season breaks or find me another passion. India out of the WC as well… Great!
Lions Tour starts properly Saturday.
Only consolation I can find at the moment.
even our rivals are quiet nothing to moan or celebrate
Steve Lions Tour? is it a circus?
Steve – Every fucker, spend our fucking money for once, just once – but, if i’m pushed Buffon, Chiellini, Cana, Melo, Zapata and a fucking winger, that should do it…..
Good comments 8 inch knob. Could penetrate alot of football minds with that.
Melo looks a good player. That’s us out of the equation then
fran cain that prick for me, his such a cunt
you know who i mean
best fun without fab….that got me thinking…. good write 8 incher
*run
Milan face the very real possibility of sending Aly Cissokho back to Porto and scrapping the move for him following a problem which has emerged regarding his teeth, according to Sky Sport Italia.
The Rossoneri were due to announce the conclusion of the deal for the stopper on Tuesday, but club doctor Jean-Pierre Meersseman has requested a further medical after what should have been his final examination revealed new concerns over the player’s teeth.
Update 14:10CET: Cissokho has had his extra medical exam at Milan Lab and he has left for his summer holiday’s in Senegal. Galliani is set to meet the player’s agent within the next hour in order to define the status of the transfer in terms of whether it goes through or not. The club have not confirmed the emerging details from Sky Sport Italia just yet though.
the deal now appears to be off
Clacko, where u watching the spain game?
were they not Hollywood enough
see kids brush ya teeth or you cant play for Milan when you grow up 
Fiorentina are keen on Arsenal defender Philippe Senderos.
The Switzerland international admits he’d welcome a return to Italy next season after spending last term on-loan at AC Milan.
Fiorentina are now weighing up whether to make an approach to Arsenal to open talks over a fee for Senderos.
senderos + cash for melo then
things are looking up coadsi
Oi steve you philfy phucker you work nera me don’t you, i’m about 5 minutes walk from The Blackfriar….
Yeah man, i’m on Cheapside.
A tom, it’s on the BBC website.
Where do you go for a Friday lucntime quaff???
marchod
Wherever my brokers take me generally.
I normally go Moorgate or Liverpool Street.
The Flying Horse and the Railway are my most regular haunts.
Hi there Grovers, hope all is good..
Can someone tell me when they are announcing the Player of the year???
UK jobless hit a 12 year high
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steve u scrounger
Fudi
It’s called networking Franchise
Fucking Freeloader….
Do you know The Hatchet ddm???
I do not Steven, pray, do tell……
Steve……when I worked at a Japanese bank, our brokers use to take us to the Wattling down bow lane…….would only go back to the office to turn the pc off….
Doesn’t happen at my new place
fudi .. ??
I know the Watling mate, nice little boozer. Was almost decimated in the great fire.
The Hatchet is a nice little boozer on Garlic Hill, just up from Canon Strasse.
I know Garlic Hill…….
dont know the hatchet…….yeah always had a good few bitters (winter months only) in the wattling. They use to have a card that they would stamp so, you’d get your 8th pint for free…….obviously that was dangerous cause I sometimes tried to get my free pint in the same lunch hour. Could not see the screen on those days !!!
Ever go the Globe ?? Feels weird in the summer cause you are basically standing in the street drinking.
When my boss returns to work in a couple of weeks we’ll get down there and get smashed up. Talk about Arsenal and watch the filthbags walk by.
all u city boys are show offs. im just jealous
Been to The Globe a few times. I prefer the Rack + Tanter if I head to Moorgate.
Your own fault Franchise for working on the fucking moon.
Does anyone know how long a ban Drogshit got for his “effing disgrace outburst yet ?
No idea chary.
They should ban the cunt for life.
i want to be a city boy Steve
its been a better club sice shinawatra left
OOHHH that’s poor.
i know steve i deserve a yellow
I’m sure today was D Day for that Chav sheister, Steve.
Talking of cuty watering holes you must have tried the Balls Brothers near Liverpool street. I remember one infamous session I had there. Crikey.
from now on this icon represents a yellow card.
Oops “City” not “Cuty”.
What’s a straight red then Franchise???
There are 2 chary. One is in The square overlooking the ice rink and 1 heading up to O’Neills.
The one by the ice rink is fucking huge.
chary… 4 game ban mate
Actually just seen Droghshit has got a 4 game ban – so he may only play 2 games in Europe this season if the chavs fall at the first stage.
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Steve for now a straight red is
It didn’t seem like a large place Steve so it must be the smaller one – I know lots of lawyers/accountants used to favour it but I remember being in the basement bit.
O.K.
I’m getting the flock out of here.
You boys have a nice evening.
Arjen Robben’s father, Hans, has given his thoughts on his son joining Tottenham. “Absolute nonsense” he told Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf. “We don’t talk with Tottenham. At the moment we don’t talk with any club. Of course, things can change overnight, but one thing is sure: Arjen will certainly not join Tottenham.”
ha ha, cunts
You should have put that last bit within the speechmarks Tom.
Right, now I really am off. Goodnight all.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/06/17/1330865/drogba-and-bosingwa-suspended-chelsea-fined
You sure that one over the Ice Rink is called Balls Bros…I though it was something else.
I worked right beside it up until 3yrs ago you’d think I’d remember…
Ps. Drogba – 6 game ban !!
Oh maybe that was ’6 game ban – two deferred’ then…??
Only a 6 game ban?Or is it 4? And only 3 for Bosingwa? What about Balack? He was a cunt aswell.
Disgraceful punishment! They got off light!
Above the Ice Rink – Corney and Barrow??
lol steve
Cheers A Tom – it’s a four game with 2 suspended.
You’re right Sharkey – old “Planet of the apes mask” boy Ballack should have got at least a 4 game ban for that.
Nearly 200 people on the old facebook group… I am the happiest person in the world.
Franchise works underground, for he is a troll
6 games… that is pretty hefty… but considering it was the semi’s of the champs league and the amount of people watching it… a bit of a kop out!
That’s because you are a man of limited ambition Pedro!!
Welcome ona and all to Skindaddy’s Insultograms
Boom!
So what was the score in the spain match?
Get in there, in the ol’ Onion Bag….
DDM, I’ll reach 1000 one day… then you’ll be sorry… me and my army of cyber friends!
1-0 villa… Xabi had a good game i think…
Are they just like your invisible ‘friend’ from your childhood Pedro????
Besides, you and i both know that they are only using you to get to Geoff….
Boom….again!
2-0 to The Menace!
Mayank, i dont give a shit abit Xabi anymore. The cunt should fuck off. Bastard always injuring Cesc. Best friends my ass!
Well said Stu….
Melo would be the perfect buy. A bit like Alonso with his amazing passing and shots. He would fit in perfectly with fabregas. If I were Wenger I would offer 9M+Senderos seeing they are intrested in him. Melo is only 25 and a part of the Brazil squad. His value will double if not triple in the coming years.
Please Wenger sign him up with vermaelen, and whilst your at it sell Eboue-Buy Ibrahim Afellay. Toure/Djourou/Gibbs can cover at RB for Sagna.
A vid of Afellay:
Melo is nothing like Alonso imo. Alonso is a passer, deep lying playmaker like Cesc (just not as good
). Whereas Melo is a beast of a DM that breaks up play and plays the simple pass to the better players on the ball.
I have only seen him a handful of times and for Brazil he is just as i said above.
He would be a good buy. I say Wenger should get Gilbertos opinion on him first.
Who needs scouts when you can just ask current or ex players.
Simples!
I was never too excited about the whole Xabi to Arsenal thing. He’s a good distributor but mascherano is the one who gets stuck in more. Its Melo all the way for me
It would be pointless buying Afelley imo. He is talented but so what. We dont need another young Winger/attacking mid.
We need to be buying proven quality for the moment. And we can just promote the kids in a few years after that. And afelley would probably be about 10m. We already have Vela, Nasri, Wilshere coming through etc.
I always liked Alonso but never thought he was the answer to our DM problems. He is just a taller, older version of Fabregas…but just not as good obviously.
Afellays a weird one… everyone seems to have known about him for ages but nobodies bid for him… kinda like huntelaar
Arsenal are one of the few teams that bid for ‘unproven talent’ hence unearth more gems.
Stu from what I’ve seen of Melo his long range passing is as good/ better than Alonso’s IMO. An example of his passing would be the Juventus game where he had a Crackeer!! Here’s the highlights of him. Someone else had already posted it but just in case you didn’t see it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBwrMCQU_-Q
And before you say I know you cant judge a player from youtube. I have seen him a few times for Brazil also.
Spurs want huntelaar… Is there any over-rated footballer they don’t want to pay over the odds for?
Seeing as Senderos likes Italy I hope we offer Fiorentina 12mil + Senderos for Melo…..its a deal they cant refuse.
I really think melo can emulate what Giberto did for us….but actually he is more mobile than Gilberto ever was….he is agressive and wont get bullied ..he would be perfect…Song and Denilson can learn from him.
And if we keep Eboue then Wenger has to be strategic….he must play Eboue alot in the early season….to rest Sagna..so that Sagna will be ready for that late January to February run…..whenever Eboue comes back he can again rest Sagna against all the bottom of the table teams..because most of them will be just parking the bus anyway..so we probably would not need the defensive prowess of Sagna.
PRETTY SURE WE WILL SIGN SAKHO THIS SUMMER
Hager told Sport.co.uk Editor Nigel Brown;
“He will leave Paris Saint Germain this summer.”
However, when asked about the player’s statement last week on the official PSG website Hager replied:
“He was saying, yes ok, it is not a problem to stay at PSG, he is happy. But he could still move to a club in England or Germany. He wants to play in England or Germany so when the offer is ok he wants to go. But the offers this year so far are not ok. So at the moment he will stay for one more year in Paris.
Hager also commented on the interest from Premier League side Arsenal:
“When the offer is right from Arsenal he will move to Arsenal. But, Arsenal is not the only interest for him in England.”
Samir, i never said Melo was a bad passer or anything like that. I agree he is a good passer but better than Alonso? No facking way.
His best passes in that clip were punts over the top. They were good passes, not great by any means imo. All easy enough passes and nothing on Alonso imo.
Mayank, Huntelaar underrated? No way! He is a great forward…goalscorer or whatever.
But melo is a far far better midfield enforcer than alonso
i think eboue is good utility or squad player but will never be first teamer and that doore was pretty shutt when aa came,i have to say that i have never seen alonso has dm answer that we need we already attacking midfielders quite a few in fact, but i feel confedent that wenger adress it this situation that has been left for quite few years,i dont this would happen but if it was me i would try att all costs to keep gallas,toure has not lookedthe same since sole cambell left in fact for long while senderos was playing better that him it sonly the 2 bolders against liverpool he made last season,if this deal goes through with ajax player then it means 1 of our defenders will have to go maybe senderos to fund the deal,selling silvestor wond fund anything, the big question will be is were song will next season because at very least he is good cover dm and cd
I know that Faceman, im just saying he isnt a better passer than Alonso.
We just need a decent passer at DM, they arent being asked to spray the ball about like a playmaker.
IF Vermaelen comes in then Someone should defo go. Im hoping Silvestre goes anyway because he is worse than useless.
Vermaelen, Gallas and Toure are basically the same. All small-ish, fast-ish and do the covering up. The only thing that seperates them is that Vermaelen is apparently very good in the air. So Its one of Gallas/Toure that will go with Vermaelen/JD/Senderos likely to occupy the other spot. And then Song can be the back-up for the back-ups.
Stu i think he is over-rated… he’s a good goalscorer that’s about it, can’t link up, can’t create, slow and not much of a worker either he’s only rated cause of his goal return most of which are set up for him.
I know that Mayank, but what he lacks in creativity and such he more than makes up with his clinical-ness. Grwat goalscorer but obviously not the best forward.
I just hope he doesnt join another prem club because he WILL score against us.
Sat Jan 30 Manchester United H
Sat Feb 6 Chelsea A
Tue Feb 9 Liverpool H
WTF! just noticed this little detail of the fixture list. And i thought the start was bad.
stu
i cant see senderos being willing to be 2 or 3 choice defender,both song/dj are ahead of him,plus player this from ajax if he comen and toure might stay just cant see it at best 3rd choice i think he is gone
Mayank i think we play villa b4 the manure game as well. in the midst of this ACN will be in progress
stu why do u choose to expose ur ignorance by saying cesc is a deep lying playmaker
how are u today?
and BTW cesc is not a deep lying playmaker FACT
pedro almost 200 in da group
\o/ PTL
Geoff; good post, something to mull over and something to digest. I am still waiting though, on something good to-day. Do you recall last summer???? There we were on the last day of the transfer window; hoping/ fingers crossed/ legs crossed, hearts beating and,Wenger, well he was off watching some Reserve game and we lost out on Alonso by £2m!!!! Surely surely, we will not go through another summer like that with a possible 1 purchase (Vermeelen – or whichever way you spell it) similar to last year with just Nasri (and some minions)whereas the other top 3 (if we’re still considered in that group of 4?)more than likely to top up with players that we all know the names of etc etc; can’t bear the thought/ give me something positive, make me smile and glow; buy a brute for centre back or two, a strong defensive midfielder, sell Ade and Eboue and I suspect most AFC fans would be fairly happy??
Pedro Robin and Bakari are in the group
wow
Well there is one great thing.We face a che;sea side without drogba,essien and mikel
A french journo has told talk sport we are signing this guy for between 9-11m? anyone hear the actual interview?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marouane_Chamakh
Franchise you dirthole, i’ve just sent you an email….
No way Franchise!
Excellent news!
an email from u DDM
i would cherish this moment for the rest of the day
You liar…
Franchise – yes indeediedoodie, just for you my little squat chum!
Pedro the Bakari might be fake but i have a good feeling that the van persie isnt
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=96092555387&ref=ts#/profile.php?id=1529543158&ref=sgm
that is VP page he has almost 3,00 friends
sorry just over 2000 i meant
for all u know pedro they might both be fake but hey…
DDM what do u think about the top seeded games sharing so far?
Franchise – Sounds groovey…..
haha its fun sharing DDM. Its like we are carving out our own fixture list. boo ya
I really hope we get Melo……he could be the final piece of the puzzle…..
And I like the fixtures as well….all our big league games will be over by february 9….so if we are close to the top we should be able to put a run together down the stretch…..also we should keep all players because the January to Liverpool period is within the ACN therefore we need to keep all our players so that we are deep enough to deal with that stretch plus injuries.
Senderos+ 10-12mil for Melo Sendy wants to stay in italy..we want Melo, it is said that Melo prefers Arsenal…gilberto must have advised him lol….its an offer they can refuse…I am very excited about the season…if we just sign Vermy/big CB and Melo plus keep the rest of the players we will be fine.
And if we are still in the champions league ateast we will have “big” mathces in the league..so players can be rotated to prevent burn out.
its an offer they cant* refuse I mean lol
We will no big matches in the league after February 9..thats good for the CL run if we are still in it.
Sharing’s good, but not sharing Peroni
Ive been watching MELO for Brazil…he is quality.
In the interest of full disclosure i said and still say the same thing about SONG as a DM.
……..Almunia……….
Sagna–Gallas–Vermaelen–Clichy
………..Melo………..
Rosicky–Fabregas–Nasri
—-Arshavin–
–Adebayor–
Quite an exciting line up don’t you think.
Was’nt sure who to put up front. Ade or Dudu with RVP changing with Arshavin now and then.
Just throwing this out there because I think more people need to know:
Marcelo from Real Madrid is an absolute GEM of a player…so unbelievebaly underrated its not funny.
He never loses the ball….can provide an inch perfect final pass…has loads of pace and power….can tackle….and has enough technique to blast home from 20-25 yards out…
That post was irrelevant…but spread the word if you can maybe it will fall into the right hands.
He can also slot it past the keeper while running at full speed, as evidenced here:
Hey guys any idea why Henry was not awarded world player of the year for the 2003-2004 season?
What an injustice.
Look at these highlights plus the stats for that year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5QLRid8DLw&feature=related
Henry 39 goals 14 assists (which is better than Ronaldo’s 42 goals and 8 assists for 07/08)
Compare with Ronaldinho that same year
22 goals for Ronnie..there are no assist stats on Wiki..
and Barca never won anything that year…
What an injustice!!!!!!!!!!
Ja, the world player of the year usually goes to the star of the CL winning team. We didnt win the CL that season so Henry didnt win the world player of the year.
Simples!
Also Nightman, Marcleo is a decent player but neither a winger nor a full back. Wing back is his best position imo. Ramos played him left mid because he went for defensive stability rather than atacking power. Marcelo and Heinze on the left, making use of Marcelos pace for a counter attack.
He is good not great.
Been out for the day, has anyone noticed that our crap period Villa – Chelsea, is the same time as the ANC?
So if we have Song, Eboue, Adebayor and Toure in the squad, we wont have them for our key period.
However, Eboue, Toure and Adebayor are all being spoken about as players who could leave.
If they do, then we may not have a problem, and could benefit from the ANC.
But obviously as you say they won nothing that season so i can only assume he won for something else. His football contribution perhaps? Or because he won the WC? I really dont know why he won it ahead of Henry.
Yeah Mark. If we still have them all then we will have a big problem because at least 2 of them will probably be regulars and the other 2 will be back ups in case of injuries and we always have them.
Hopefully Ade is going so thats 1 sorted. If Melo or any non african DM is bought then Songs absense wont be that bad because Denilson will be there as back up.
Eboue wouldnt start unless we have injuries either. And thats only if he doesnt leave.
And then Toure. If he isn sold then i think we should be fine anyway. Gallas will hopefully stay and Vermaelen should be here anyway.
And like last time there is always a chance that one of them dont qualify. But its unlikely becuase Ivory Coast and Cameroon are 2 of the bigger nations in africa.
Stu i agree with ja on that one, that was pure injustice. the year ronaldinho won i dont even recall if barca was in the CL that year. he was robbed simples, and because of that he cannot claim that he has won everything.
Apparently we’re close to signing Chmakh and I’d be pissed off if it were true. He is truly shit, miles behind Adebayor.
Yeah i agree too Coadsi. For Henry to have never won that award is a disgrace. Especially when you see cunts like Ronaldo winning it twice!
There is no justice in this world(of football).
Pat, me too. I saw Chamakh playing towards the end of the season for Bordeaux. He was fucking useless. Shit at shooting, couldnt pass, horrible decisiveness and was just all round below average. And at 25 he aint gona get much better, especially in such a short time. Hope im wrong tho if he does sign.
http://gunnerblog.com/?p=1782
Thats the Chamakh news
Pat, have you checked his link.
Amazing misses.
Hey Stu ..it was a real injustice because Barca won 0(zero) trohpies that year…also the world cup was in 2002 so that has absolutely no bearing.
The funny thing is Ronaldinho won the award again in for the 04-05 campaign but he only scored 13 goals…thats very odd…I know stats arent everything but….it would have made more sense in if he won for 05-06 because they won La liga and Cl that year and he scored 26 goals….
Its really wierd..its complete and utter crap.
I mean henry had 39 goals 14 assists…..Ronaldo has 42 goals 8 asissts so Henry contributed directly to 3 more goals that Ronaldo..and he took less penalties and free kicks.
Only Messi with 38 goals 16 assists this season has produced similar numbers.
I really dont care who wins world player of the year because its not a true refection in my opinion..at least not every year.
“And then we move onto an incredible run of fixtures. In the space of a fortnight we face Villa away midweek, United at home, Chelsea away and three days after that Liverpool at home under the lights. Blimey.
In a horrible world we will be recently out of the cups and come final whistle against Liverpool way out of the league running.
In a much nicer one we will be still in the hunt with 11 games to go and none against last year’s top three or Villa or Everton.
Interesting how last season we played the top three three times in our first 32 odd games and this season six times in our first 27.”
True Ja. When Giggs wins prem player of the year and the other awards go the way you just said then something aint right. Who does the voting is what i want to know. Ronaldinho won without doing anything special. Henry was defo the best player in the world during that period but finished second twice. Something must have been going on with the voting.
HAHAHAHA!!!! Fifa have been getting complaints about the horns during the confederation cup matches. Brilliant! I fucking hate the sound of those bastard horns!
Who da fook is that Chamakh???
Think that one’s destined for the Transfer rumour bin, like Hitzle-aspergers…
Mangoonian, we have been linked with him for weeks. This one aint as simple as the Hitzelsperger rumour, unfortunately there is some substance behind this one. I’d much rather the german.
Stu;
Kindly keep your sexual preferences to yourself…
Much obliged…
Well, the Chammy dude looks a pile of gack and I for one, pray to Allah, Buddha, Jehovah, Jesus and Simon Cowell that it just aint so….
You sick puppy Mangoonian!
Only a mind so vile as yours would think of that! YUK!
Tee Hee hee!!!
Well seeing my mums from Morocco I watch most of the Morocco games. In the games that Marouane has started for them he was truly shite. No technique whatsoever. Adebayor and Bendtner are 10X the player.
If Wenger does waste the 7M reported. I shall be absolutely clueless. Maybe he has finally lost it…?
Bendtner is fecking class anyway. Noone is better than him (outside the best strikers in the world…obviously!)
Maybe the
was confusing there. Im being totally serial about Bendtner being class. So serial im going to make this face 
Not long ago Wenger said he had not made a bid.Lets just hope he does not any time in the near future:|
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-i-have-not-made-a-bid-for-chamakh
whats up stu…
Prices Choy!
I’d be willing to take him sell Ade and call Bendtner our number one big sriker. Give Chamakh a support role from the bench and let him settle in and see how he goes. basically I would rather that than keep Ade another season. he looks very good with his head.
Seriously tho….nothings up. Im bored out of my mind with no football. And this confederations cup is shite!
You?
No need Gazzap. Bendtner is arguably our best headerer so really theres no need to bring in a big striker.
But i do like the idea of buying an old head to play up front. Like United did with Larsson a few seasons ago, or Fulham with Montella to a lesser extent. It would do the young strikers no end of good.
About Melo, He is exactly what we need!!
He is the hard man we miss.
Aw sees that he must strengthen in DM. Now with this fixtures on january and februar we need someone who goes for every ball. And he is that man!!
This rumour likes it is serious. I hope so.
me going mental as well… august seem soooo far away.. and there is no news as well
Good point Dutchman.
Now that Wenger has seen the tough fixture list we have during the acn there is surely no way he can take the risk of not buying. Because Denilson isnt capable of playing so many massive games on his own in such a short space of time.
Whoever coined the phrase “no news is good news” was clearly not an Arsenal fan!
exactly stu.
Well, if we’re in the market for old heads, then fuck it! Michael Owen on a free transfer on a pay (us) as you play deal… There you have it, in a nutshell, all wrapped up with a nice bow on top for good measure….Sorted.
Do you think this rumour is serious, it’s look like.
I suppose so MG, but wouldnt he look to be a starter. Greedy facker!
gunnerblog says that chamakh is close to coming to arsenal. He and melo and vermealen. Out: adebayor and senderos???
you cant get through a whole season with one big striker. If Nik gets injured then you have no big man option.
Chamakh’s conversion rate is not as good as Ade’s. one goal every 3.5 games for Bordeaux. Ade’s for us is 1 in every 2.2. thats in an easier league for a team that just won the league. Chamakh scored 13 goals in the league last season and 1 in europe. not totally convincng stats by any means.
This is why if he is bought, its clearly as a back up player.
But 8m of an already small budget is an awful lot of monies to soend on a back up.
I thought Eboue still had time left on his deal? His agent is saying he could leave for free THIS SUMMER!
it is but clearly you only buy him if Ade is sold for decent money. you dont buy him if Ade is still here.
I just saw in the previous season he only scored 4 goals even though he made the same number of appearances as last season. oh dear.
He does have time left. He cant go for free this summer, otherwise he would have already left.
I thought Eboue’s agent was talking about doing a Webster – that is buying out the final year of the contract. but I also thought Eboue had more than one year to run anyway, so not sure what thats all about.
Chamakh aint sging, so chill dem beans… Dig?
That rumour that we only have 13M is shite tho isn’t it…. I think we might have around 20M to 25M max budget.
BUY:
10M for Vermaelen
10M+Senderos for Melo (Bargain)
6M for Sakho/ Some unknown youngsters. (Luc Castagnos etc)
???A Striker..???
SELL:
Eboue for 5-6M
Ade for 20-25M
Silvestre Deal with Sakho(Exchange)
Sederos (Exchange with Melo)
Didnt Eboue sign a new contract recently? Remember his agent made up a story that Atletico were asking about him so on arse.com they announced that Eboue was being offered a new contract.
Its all so confusing!
Eboue signed a new deal when Justin Hoyte did… Must have at least 2 years left on his deal…
Consider it dug MG!
Samir, in what crazy world is a team offering up to 25m for Ade and 6m for Eboue?
i’d more happy if we sold some deadweight than if we bought someone like Chamakh. getting rid of ade, eboue, senderos, diaby and Denilson would make me happy!
Chamakh is a very good player and stu arsenal haven’t a low budget. And if it is, than this could be the answer.
In: chamakh 7m
melo 18m
vermealen 10m
out: adebayor 17m
senderos 6m
You totally have 12m of your own budget.
I can see AW this do.Agree???
Well, Stu, in the current crackers transfer climate, £25m is the goin rate for ego-maniacal strikers and £5m is fair do’s for Eboue…. No, seriously!
My preference:
OUT:
Ade
Diaby
Eboue
Silvestre
Senderos
IN:
Vermaelen
Melo(or any class DM)
Juhasz
A striker MAYBE! Pogrebnyak on a free
And a versatile defensive/midfield player.
Simples!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCwl_EMtWPY&feature=related
Sure you’ve all seen it. I nearly pissed myself
Denilson aint deadweight, wash yer mouff out sun…
Yes stu and it is realistic, or not.
Mark my words. Melo signs for arsenal!!!
Fine MG. But 25 is still a lot unless its Milan or Real bidding.
Gazzap, i agree. I hate the deadwood. Get rid of it all! Streamline the squad!!
And Dutchman, maybe our budget isnt as low as 15m. But do you seriously foresee Wenger going out and spending 30-40m? ’cause i dont!
We would all like to see Diaby go BUT we all know deep inside that Wenger will not sell him(This season anyways). You never know he might one day turn good. He has shown some glimpses of class.
yes stu that is right but what i say at 21:23 is realistic,isn’t it???
Yeah Samir. But IF he does come good one day then Wenger will sell him and say that he has to sell him best players to balance the books.
I’d much rather he fuck off now that waste more of arsenals time learning how to become a footballer!
Denilson is deadwood because he blocks better players like Ramsey from getting games. I dont dislike the man but he is an average players, we need quality players. also having been an ever present he wont go back to being a squad player, so best to sell.
I predict wenger will buy a good DM, Den wont play that much anymore and eventually he will be sold next summer.
It took almost 3 minutes to show 4 goals or was it 5?
He isnt good enough (for long enough) Get rid of him!
if diaby goes, then at least wenger cannot be tempted to play him on the wing. the number of games that has lost us probably runs into double figures!
Gazzap, i dont want Denilson starting ahead of better players either but he is still only 20. A bit early to sell him imo. I’d rather keep him as a back up.
Diaby is a nothing player unless he is on form. Which is rare to say the very least!
I see no reason to buy Chamakh, I think we should keep the players we have.
The only ones I would sell are Silvestre…and possibly Diaby and also use Senderos to sweeten the deal for Fiorentina…
Get Vermaelen and Melo..possibly Sahko and we should be fine.
Oh and use 4-3-3 formation with high pressure.
…………….GK…………….
Sag/Eboue……..Gal/JD….Verm/Gal….Clichy/Gibs
…..Cesc/Den…..Melo/Song……Rosicky/Nas……
….RVP/Theo…….Ade/Eddy…….Arsh/Bend/Vela….
Championship winning team….with Ramsey, Wilshere and company in the squad.
Gazzap;
You really aint tellin it likemit is IMO. Denilson aint blocking anyone at the moment, coz Ransey wasnt ready last season, the inept display at cardiff showed us that, but he was forgiven (let off) coz he was all emotional! Sheeesh, the effin pathetic scape goating of players by fans makes me laugh… Denilson put in some top performances, but i would have rathered he had a more experienced head in there, but that didnt happen…
To say he is blocking Ramsey is hilarious, considering how the team is perceived as too effin young!!!
………………………….GK…………………………
Sag/Eboue……..Kolo/JD….Verm/Gal….Clichy/Gibs
…..Cesc/Den…..Melo/Song……Rosicky/Nas……
….RVP/Theo…….Ade/Eddy…….Arsh/Bend/Vela….
Championship winning team….with Ramsey, Wilshere, Coquelin, JET, Merida and company in the squad.
I say give Diaby+Denilson+Maybe (Ade if no bid larger than 17M)one more season. If they disappoint once again Kick em out.
Apart from selling players who seem keen to want out; Ade, Senderos and Eboue, it would be extremely dangerous to our chances to get rid of more players, IMO.
We need additions, FFS!
And Silvestre MG because clearly he aint helping us in any way.
Samir, 17m would be good enough considering the season he just had.
Stu;
Just coz its you, I’ll let Silvestre go too then!
I didn’t think den was really blocking RAmbo last season, but I think he would next season. rambo is ready now to overtake Den.
point is, this is all assuming wenger buys a top DM. no way can we afford to lose den unless we buy a topo DM. Rambo would not get in front of that new player. But no way would I like rambo to be behind Song, new player AND Den AND Diaby. to much mediocrity. fans are beginning to settle for mediocre players
because they put in one good performance in every 4. This is why we were 20 points behind Man U – please try and remember how good Vieira was then think again about Denilson.
Use Silvestre as exchange in Sakho deal.
5M+Silvestre…
Oh here we go again, coz i dont think we should cull half the bleedin squad Im settling for mediocrity… Jeeez, some argumewnt that is… The argument of the tabloid reader…
Who says Ramsey will not suffer the same shit you are handin out to Song and Denilson in a year or 2??? Coz you wont even remember saying shite like this IF ramsey were to be perceived to be shite.
FFS! Tellin me to remember how good Vieira was, condescending twat! I remember Vieira all too well and in his early games he probably wouldve been written off the smae fans calling for us to get rid of Denilson and Song…
We are talkin about 20 year old players. Getting rid of them serves what purpose? Oh I see, then even younger players can be slated, scape goated and written off by clueless supporters…
Coz, lets face it, the home supprt is doin its best to ruin our young players..
just send senderos far far away….
“no news is good news” termed by mr wenger I think.
Yea Samir, use Sylvest to get Sahko
………..use Senderos to get Melo
I say keep everyone else because next season is ram packed….in fact there is a weekend where we play Saturday and then Monday..meaning only one day rest so we need as much bodies as possible to get thru next season because we dont want to blame injuries all over again..so for that reason I would keep Diaby..just incase Rosicky and/or Cesc are injured..in that case we would need him to atleast rotate with Nasri and Den.
Melo and Song can chare the DM role…I think Denilson will do better without that huge defensive burden on his shoulders….he is a good interceptor but he is not yet strong enough to deal with the prem players week in week out..so I think he should be used more a Cesc back up.
again I say..this team/formation will win titles.
…………………………………….GK……..…………………………
Sag/Eboue……..Kolo/JD….Verm/Gal….Clichy/Gibs
….Cesc/Den/Diaby…..Melo/Song……Rosicky/Nas……
….RVP/Theo…….Ade/Eddy…….Arsh/Bend/Vela….
i meant silvest
Oh and Song came on a shit load last season, but the fact twats wanted him gone before a ball was kicked is immaterial now, innit? And likelwise, Denilson, you can be as churlish and condescending as you want, fella, but Denu=ilson was quality for many games, I think he and Song played too many as they were the only options we had, Wenger fucked up big style, nit signing a Top DM, but thats gone now…
To suggest that ramsey is ready NOW, regardless of any evidence to prove that, just shows you are scapegoating 2 players you have decided are shite…
Sad really.
But, theres no point continuing this, we aint gonna agree
jeez mate you sound tired. you better go to bed. school in the morning (thats what you get for calling people names, really hard)
anyone know of Michel Bastos? another person we are supposedly linked with
Well, sorry for callin you a condescendin twat, that was out of order.
BUT, the bit about settling for mediocrity amd, ooh we used to have Vieira yadda yadda, and the general looking back in misty eyed nostalgia is bull shit IMO.
Oh and yes, you are right, I do have school in the morning, teachin those twats from class 5c tomorrow.
Nice Blog fart MG. Scared everyone off. And im gonna follow them….
Im off to wach UFC and have a cuppa! Bye bye……..
Oh you just had to go and spoil the moment Stu… Nice one… I like to have the last word, you know that! Shhhhh
i like cake
Mango, Vieira’s early games were pretty impressive. He looked a dead set star the moment he came on against Sheffield Wednesday with the tache!
just watching gunners top 50 goals. Amazing
when are people gonna learn that denilson and song will never be the answer for us
same goes for djourou,bendtner and senderos,there all shit
aucliar reckons we have done a deal for chamakh
Chocolate Eclair talks alot of bollocks, most of the time.
well villa scored the only goal for Spain when playing next to Torres , so it shows you who is
king dick of Spain ! …
well it appears he has made his decision and now wants his agent to make it happen ..
its also funny that 3 teams in the EPL want him
man U – pool and the chev’s ….
hmmmmm as EVER there is a name missing there …
RUMOR TIME
Manchester United will complete the £16million capture of Antonio Valencia by the weekend – thwarting hopes of exploiting a delay in the deal.
Barcelona are poised to hand Mark Hughes the solution to his biggest Manchester City problem by tabling a £35million bid for Robinho.
Liverpool are confident they can complete the £18million capture of Glen Johnson by the weekend.
* Manchester City are close to completing their second major deal of the summer – in a £17million swoop for long-time target Roque Santa Cruz.
New Chelsea manager Carlo Ancelotti is weighing up a £30million swoop for Inter Milan striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic.
David Villa says he will only come to the Premier League if it is to play for Liverpool.
* Manchester United and Chelsea have made official bids to sign Franck Ribery but Real Madrid are favourites to land the Frenchman with a £70 million bid.
* Michael Owen’s Premier League commitment was last night called into question by Wigan chief Dave Whelan.
Tottenham can finally land Middlesbrough’s Stewart Downing for £12million.
* Manchester City were last night closing in on a deal for Blackburn striker Roque Santa Cruz.
* Arsenal defender Emmanuel Eboue could be on his way out of the Emirates after revealing he is unhappy at the club.
* Liverpool skipper Steven Gerrard is considering quitting football at the end of his existing contract in 2013.
* Tottenham chief Daniel Levy has been in talks with Real Madrid over the potential signings of Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, Arjen Robben and Gabriel Heinze for a combined £30million.
* Arsenal are preparing a renewed £15million bid for Fiorentina’s midfielder Felipe Melo.
* Chelsea were last night preparing to join the hunt for £30million-rated Inter Milan forward Zlatan Ibrahimovic.
so it looks like all my favorites are going to join rival teams ..
valencia (who i hoped arsene would realize is sheer talent) villa ,Huntelaar,ribery,Ibrahimovic.
and who are we linked with ?
a guy named melo ??
Melo , MELO who the fuck is melo ?
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fuck me its rant time ..
is it just me or is this team showing the passion of a 2 – bit hooker ?
you got teams that clearly whiped us last season , fuck SEVERAL SEASONS ..
and we are trying to get aston villa rejects and no-bodies from .. you guessed it ANOTHER FRENCH team !
sorry this nightmare is never going to end !
we need a clear out alright …
it starts with the board , and if wenger cant toe the line and think out of the box he needs to go also !
i dont give a fuck what anyone says ..
all i can see is TOP clubs with there heads screwed ,& are now going around hunting for BIG named targets and securing them prior to pre – season, whilst arsene is running around like a pensioner at a flea-market getting linked with more silvestre style purchases !
all ive read about arsenal so far is things like our captain getting chatted up for the 3rd season on the trot and people like eboue , gallas,toure stating they are not happy and wanting to leave , our wing backs where rumored to wanting to move on also ….
true or not .. thats all we have to look forward too
ade -eboue- toure-gallas & cesc,sanga, clichy ..rvp even …. less than stable …
even spurs are interested in Huntelaar, Robben and Gabriel Heinze …
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then i see how positive people are here , even at le grove , i thought most on here had more brains .. this looks dire !
wake up youve been lied to since day one ..
and day 1500 your still being lied too !
(aprx 5 years
)
Ethan it’s been said over and over.
There’s not much of an option the fans have.
At the end of the day, they’re still buying into the hype.
All you have said is bang on but there are people who are willing to be blinded so the board don’t really care about what people like you think.
It’s kind of a if you can’t win them, just keep buying into thier bullshit and hope we get lucky
Yeah ethan, I understand your frustration, coz this cautious approach in signing players has become, well, frustrating
especially with the big names doing the rounds & we aren’t mentioned as possible suitors.
But, on the otherhand Le Gaffer has said he will buy, & no news could just mean he has got the media parasites off his trail.
GG – ice
im over it now
i just woke up this morning to read my morning rumors from sporting life and its all doom and gloom of cesc denying moving to spain & eboue wanting to depart , toure considering man shitty . not bad for keeping a team together ..
or arent we really trying that hard
and what have we got to look forward too ?
melo from ANOTHER …wait for it … french liga 1 side football player ..
disappointingly predictable ..
annoyingly predictable !!!
ice
i actually thought when wenger was getting chatted up by real, the board realized they may need to splash the cash or lose wenger and risk employing someone who needs a kitty annually to be successful ..
i thought this year might be different ?
only the bigger fool is me for thinking so ..
nothing has changed .. we create talent, not buy it .. and we accept all the down time that goes along with it .. you pay the biggest ticket in the EPL to admire it also !
which is the same admission as we will always be in the top 6 but we will never win fuck all !
it just shits me when you see all these quality names being spread about and we are looking for diamonds in the rough …
i could understand if we had a top squad already and won back to back titles ..
we need those names that are floating around for
our own team !!!, whilst we still have A TEAM that vaguely resembles a top flight club to command them comming to us to begin with!!…
Glad to see imbecile ref Howard Webb haunts football fans world over,that Brazil penalty was dodgy,Egypt deserved the win. Anyway,Supported the boys win against N.Z last night now to support Cesc demolish them saturday
What I saw of Egypt against Brasil, they moved the ball/linked up well about the field. Only set pieces that stuffed them up
Morning Lads,
I am no guru but what I said about RVP will not go away.I reportd last week that United were looking at him, and a number of tabloids are escalating the rumour today.
RVP was meant to get assurance from Gazidis that we were buying quality players,BEFORE he renegotiated his contract,apparently wages not being the main issue.
Dear Robin,
in the 4 years you have been with us, you have been injured for approx. half the time,the club stood by you and i believe AW pulled you out of mediocrity.Either sign or leave,and it should be the club dictating the terms not you.
No one is ireplacable, I think you are a great asset to our team,but make your up son.
make your mind up
VAN PERSIE IS JUST BUYING TIME….
HE WILL SIGN AND START SAYING THE WAY HE LOVES IT AT ARSENAL…
I THINK THIS IS ALL AGENT TALK…….BULLSHIT!!!!
I don’t agee,nothing to do with his agent,he is leaving his options open.Why has he had talks with RM, why is Mourinho interested in him and now United. It can’t all be speculation.
i read some three months ago excatly what i am reading now, in other words no progress from either party.
Oi Oi Savaloi!!
Great post last night Ethan, very heartfelt, i’m with you 100% on that.
Eeeee-Ooooop Kelsey, yep the club should tell RvP to sign or fuck off, especially after having to put up with his constant injuries and his @incident@ in Holland a while back……
THEN FUCK OFF VAN PERSIE…WE CAN BUY BENZEMA, HUNTELAAR WITH HIS MONEY..
WE CAN ALSO GET FELIPE MELO NOW THAT FLORENTINA ARE INTERESTED IN SENDEROS.
WE CAN PLAY WALCOT/ARSHAVIN/BENDTNER/EDUARDO/VELA AS OUR STRIKERS NOW..
TO HELL WITH U RVP & ADE PLAY POOR
Ethan..
Melo’s from Fiorentina.
Apparently he’s the next big thing.
Def worth looking into. Rather him than Matuidi (who’s just another next Vieira type)
I think AW’s been quite coz he hasn’t managed to flog barndoor yet.
Had we moved him on, AW would have probably moved for his target(s).
RvP to manure is like saying we were gonna rival Real for Kaka!!
Bollocks!!
icey
barndoor could mean RVP also, the amount of times he missed the target.
It does hurt when we (as a club) generate such a turnover, and you hear Gazidis reiterate DF’s comments about the playing side of things NOT being affected by the property side, only to not go out and make a statement of intent by buying a couple of big money players to enhance what we already NOT replace it…..
Yeah but RvP and Ade are world’s apart.
If RvP could remain fit for a campaign we have some player on our hands.
I don’t believe all the stuff going around right now. I am sure he will commit if we do bring in the right players…
after torres, its RVP to manure! all bollocks
RVP will go nowhere, if he goes then the exodus will begin, Wenger is not that dim… is he?
No he’s not!!
Morning Geoff.
AW told us before the season was out that getting RvP to sign was a priority.
He must keep him!!
fiorentina are eyeing senderos, we might get melo afterall!
NEW POST!
AW has been talking this guy up during the week, why not get him
Hey Geoff – RvP off? Why not? Ol’ Arsene has a way of offloading at least one high profile player each season and replacing him with a school kid…..
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