Into the Madrigal we must go, all guns blazing, the spirit of 59!

So this is it then, the quarter final of the Champions league, the sort of game that the spuds can only dream of.

This time last year we screwed up at the Grove by having all the possession, but no killer instinct, granted the ref helped Liverpool, but we have to expect that, we have to play our own game and go for an early goal, if we do that, they will panic, because we have an away goal and they will come out.

The best way of ensuring qualification is to win both games, it’s not like we are playing Barcelona or Bayern Munich, we are playing one of the two sides that everyone wanted, tonight we should get a win under our belts and make the return game less fraught.

It seems that we will be starting with Theo out on the right wing and Nasri on the left, that should leave Denilson in the middle with Cesc and my feeling is he will play with 5 in midfield, so that means Song or Diaby, if fit I expect Diaby as he offers a more physical presence, and he knows where the goal is.

The back four pick themselves so that means Sagna, Kolo, Gallas and Clichy with Almunia in goal and Ade alone up front.

So more or less the same team that beat Man City, and I don’t think that’s a bad thing. We have to keep it tight at the back which means the midfield must keep possession, do that and let nature take it’s course.

If we keep the ball it stops them scoring, if they don’t score, they won’t win, if we keep possession we can score, we can surprise them by frustrating them, then one killer pass from Cesc and bang, it’s all over.

It reminds me of one General James Wolf and when king George sent him to Canada to kick the French out in 1759, they had an impressive fortress called Quebec, we parked our Navy in the Saint Lawrence river and as they had home advantage they just sat back waiting for us to make the mistake of attacking them.

Wolf took his cannons and his entire army and scaled the impossible heights of Abraham at night and when the French under General Montcalm woke up, the entire British army was behind them, two hours of silly French attacking saw Wolf win the match and Canada was back in the hands of King George, Wolf knew how important away goals were, so he got a bunch of them. He did what they didn’t expect.

For Montcalm read Robert Pires and for General Wolf it’s the dashing Cesc Fabregas, Wenger is King George and Canada the Champions league.

Unfortunately Wolf lost his life in that battle, but his last words were ‘thank God I have done my duty’ this was repeated 46 years later by Horatio Nelson, Nelson so loved the picture of Wolf’s final moments, he commissioned the same artist to paint his own demise, really, that’s all true, he even used Wolf’s famous words.

So the moral of this story is we need to surprise them, do what they don’t expect and attack, attack, attack, attack, attack, do that and the day is ours, and then we can start to think about playing Porto in the semis, so Cesc, go and do your duty and we’ll thank God.

Have a great night tonight Grovers, this will be our day, I can feel it, the Arsenal will go to Spain all guns blazing.


1,531 Responses to “Into the Madrigal we must go, all guns blazing, the spirit of 59!”

  1. Franchise says:

    Greetings Earthlings

  2. ed atom says:

    boom!

  3. Franchise says:

    ha ha

  4. peachesgooner says:

    Franchise!!!!

  5. Franchise says:

    ed atom too late to apologise…. tooooo laaaaaaaaaaaaate

  6. Arsenal4richerorpoorer says:

    I lost out again….morning all.

  7. reggie57 says:

    4-1 to us tonight Ade quad trick get in there

  8. ed atom says:

    Quick Draw Franchise…..howz tricks? orning everyone

  9. Geoff says:

    Ok I see Pedro has woken up! I’m off for a bit and will return.

  10. Franchise says:

    Peaches!!!! if u wanna shoot shoot dont talk ;)

  11. Kenyagunner says:

    Thanks Pedro for uploading today’s post..

    Good stuff Geoff, I have to say I agree in places, otherwise, excellent as always..

    Cheers!

  12. Duke says:

    Great post,
    I think Wenger confirmed that Diaby is out.

  13. stonroy says:

    Today is a great day for some Arsenal football.

  14. stonroy says:

    This is one of those matches that you wait all year for.

  15. iceman says:

    How would you like it if I hit you with a 59….
    Would you like it like that….real fast real slow what what what…

    Let’s do them submarines eh!!! ;)

  16. Duke says:

    How is the weather prediction in Spain today? Mainly in Villareal.

  17. ed atom says:

    goog post Geoff…….Arsenal to win 3-1

  18. Pedro says:

    Sorry about the late post… I got caught up in the excitement of a I.T conversation!

    Top post Geoff!

    What an exciting start to the week! A nice little win here will be invaluable on all fronts. I really think we’ll win something this year… being in competition in April is a bit of a new thing for us!

    I’m going for a 2-0 win… as long as we aren’t complacent, I think we’ll beat them.

  19. ed atom says:

    good post Geoff, Arsenal to win 3-1

  20. Steve says:

    I fucking love that post.

  21. Steve says:

    1-1. We’ll do them at Emirates.

  22. Jay says:

    Will this day bring about the brace? could go 4-0 or 2-1…

    ahh 4 -0 with ade, cesc, walcott and nasri scoring would doo :)

  23. thenorthbank says:

    I have a good feeling about tonight’s game too. It’s coming at just the right time for us. We’re on a good run and are getting players back in the team fully fit.

    Come on Arsenal!!! http://thenorthbank.wordpress.com

  24. iceman says:

    “…the sort of game that the spuds can only dream of.”

    CLASSIC!!!

  25. Jay2Oh says:

    Going for a narrow 1-0 victory with Ade to pop up and slot one in. We will win at the Emirates and then Bring on Porto! Cant see Utd slipping up though.

  26. Franchise says:

    Geoff sneakily left a prediction in the post Da vinci code style ;)

  27. Jay says:

    fiver than franchise? :P

  28. Jay says:

    fiver than franchise? :P

  29. Jay says:

    double post grrr

  30. Jay says:

    early brace ;)

  31. Duke says:

    Fran, want to crack it for us? Didn’t notice it :D

  32. stonroy says:

    Wenger on Bobby Pires.

    “Personally, I wanted to keep him,” said Wegner. “He wanted to go because he wanted a longer contract than one year and you know our policy.

    “Also he wanted to play. You know many players here feel the pressure every day of the young players who are ready. It’s not easy to take. You look behind you and you see what’s coming behind is strong.
    “So I believe that he decided to go. He was aware that he would not definitely be automatically first choice. I can understand that. He was at the stage of his career where he wanted to play regularly and, at 33, to come in and out, it’s difficult. Don’t forget, he’s almost 36 now.

    “But he is someone who I would have loved to have stayed longer. He was such an example, him and Dennis Bergkamp. They were quite similar. You give them a ball and they could have stayed out there on the training pitch the whole day.”

  33. charybdis1966 says:

    Hey, I’m liking your military based posts Geoff – and you even included the name of one of my favourite tracks of all time (“All guns Blazing”, Judas Priest, Painkiller(1990) )in the title.
    As I was saying to Steve yesterday, I’ll have the Peroni’s lined up as I have the house to myself tonight and ITV4 will be the place to watch us sink the yellow submarines…dive, dive senors !.

  34. Duke says:

    Jay that was a da vinci code style hat-trick :P

  35. Jay says:

    haha indeed… Arite time to get my lift home talk soon :D

  36. Bren says:

    Will be happy with a 1-1, but believe we can edge it.

    I think they will put it up to us, particularly in the first half. Our younger legs should catch them in the second half.

    Can we take our chances ? That is the big question.

    Song to start. Diaby to come on.

  37. charybdis1966 says:

    BTW, dud anyone notice another Brum player made a leg breaking tackle on an oppo forward last night ? It seems McLeish insists on a quota of these per season to keep up their “good, honest, pro” attitude. As the player who was stretchered off was a Brit the commentators condemned the tackle unlike when Eduardo was felled.

  38. Franchise says:

    i’ll give u clues

    spirit of 59
    one of the two sides
    5 in midfield
    back 4
    1759
    46 years
    2 hours

  39. Duke says:

    Fran, that confused me even more :P

  40. Jay2Oh says:

    Yeah im a bit stumped on that one:(

  41. ed atom says:

    Did anyone see Birmingham’s Lee Carsley’s horror tackle on Wolves’ Chris Iwelumo? It brought back memories of Martin Taylor’s leg breaking tackle on Eduardo, and you could be forgiven for thinking his rednose bum licking manager would come out against such ugly challenges……zero chance!

  42. Clacko the gooner says:

    What a post to get us all fired up for the game tonight!!

    I don’t think that tonights game will be easy for us. I think Wenger will tell them all to go and play wengerball and frustrate them more than anything and when they start coming onto us like some drunk horny chick in a nightclub we will pounce. 2-1 to the Arsenal i say :-D

  43. ed atom says:

    lol……Chary!

  44. Jay2Oh says:

    Yeah that carsley tackle was fucking disgusting!!If you look closely in teh background, one of the brum players gasps as he knows what his teammate has just done. I cant believe the birmingahm players were SHOCKED when the red card came out.

  45. Clacko the gooner says:

    That tackle was pure and utter filth! He said after the game that it “was just a late tackle” i am sorry a late tackle is a late tackle, a tackle at knee height is just plain thuggery!!!

  46. choy says:

    morning all..

    big big game today… m pschyed… Cmon Arsenal!!!

  47. maqitlarge says:

    1-5 Franchise?

  48. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Great post Geoff

    Unfortunately both channels here are showing the manure v porto game live :( . So its going to have to be a link from on here if i watch it live, or watch it delayed @ 6.30am on fox.

    evo…………..you got a link mate?????????????

    COME ON U REDS!!!!!!!

  49. Jay2Oh says:

    It was verging on crime, thats how bad it was! I seriously couldnt believe it. Wolves have said the poor guy hasnt broke his leg. Im glad for him. Birmingham have done enough damage to strikers careers for a while!!!!!

  50. Franchise says:

    Voderman has played around with those nos and she came up with 3-0 to the team in red

  51. Franchise says:

    dont ask me how she did it im just her lover ;)

  52. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Could be a similar tale to the Turkey shoot. Quick breaks involving Theo & Ade, etc. Can’t wait :twisted:

  53. charybdis1966 says:

    The result of the Black country derby means that, unfortunately, we are more likely to see McCleish’s rabble of knuckle scrapers back in the Premiership next season.
    Looking on the up side we can do our bit(by taking 6 points off them) to send the c**ts back down again. Perhaps we can get Diaby to beak Taylors leg back. It would be justice.

  54. charybdis1966 says:

    Lucky you Franchise – I always fancied Carol V.

  55. Franchise says:

    well chary some of us do have em’

  56. Steve says:

    Wolves are still top.

    I quite like trips to the Midlands. It’s an away trip but can get home in 2 1/2 hours. I hope Wolves, Reading, and Birmingham come up and we lose all that North east shit from the prem.

  57. Steve says:

    Sorry that was another sweeping generalisation.

    I meant, all those twunts from north of Yorkshire.

  58. charybdis1966 says:

    Well Steve, I can probably make it to Midlands games in 1 ½ – 2 hours – less time than it takes me to get to the Grove, but I’d never have enough bottle to go to away games. Too scary, I mean the high-pitched whinging midlands accents more than any possibility of fisticuffs.

  59. Clacko the gooner says:

    I wouldn’t mind Burnley coming up. I think that they are a very respectable club. After we beat them (finally) they didn’t come out and blame the ref or Cesc for spitting it was just a well played and good luck thing.

  60. Geoff says:

    I hope they all go down because I’m fed up with the pundits telling us all the time they are the best fans in the world, they’re all cunts, as soon as they are losing, they leave their grounds.

    The weather here is mixed, but still as cold as England in the evening.

    And don’t forget here, it’s on at 8.45pm

  61. Clacko the gooner says:

    Geoff are you at the game tonight then??

  62. Franchise says:

    The midfield contest tonight should be intense. Denilson would come face to face with one of the best in the business Senna

  63. Clacko the gooner says:

    Who on here is actually going or in Spain and going to the game tonight?

  64. Clacko the gooner says:

    i think that most of their game plan will be around not giving Cesc any time on the ball at all. Hopefully that will leave Theo and Ade to run the game as long as Theo can find the final ball we should be ok.

  65. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Geoff

    I think it would be a good laugh if newcastle go down.

    I like T Buzz’s latest funnies entry.

  66. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Ok all. Have a great day. I hope it goes quickly for you all. ofcourse we get a sleep here so it helps time to fly. See u tomorrow morning on here. May God be with The Arsenal :)

  67. Steve says:

    chary, i went to nearly every away game for about 10 years before the kids came and I can count on 1 hand the amount of times we had a proper ruck.

  68. Geoff says:

    Clacko I’m in Spain, it’s my last night but a 3 or 4 hour drive and I need to drink for this one! So I’ll be watching it on TV.

    Gnarley I’ll go and look.

  69. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    …..& the spirit of The Wolfman :lol:

  70. charybdis1966 says:

    If we’re talking who we’d like to go down I’d elect: Blackburn, Stoke and Bolton – all bruising, anti-football based teams. Sadly West Brom are already down so it’ll be 2 spaces free – which I’d give to Stoke and Blackburn; although if Hull or the bar codes were to go down I’d be happy too.
    Also, it will be St Totteringham’s day on Saturday as long as we beat Wigan. Get ready to text your Spud acquaintances with this fact at the weekend guys.

  71. Clacko the gooner says:

    I have just found out something quite literally gut wrenching! Pretty much all of the pubs in my area are showing the fucking manc game!!!

    I need to put in a call to my mate that manages one of them and see if he can get it changed to the Arsenal game. He fucking better!

  72. Steve says:

    Where do you live Clacko?

  73. charybdis1966 says:

    Yeah, Steve, I suppose the worst you get at away games is verbals nowadays. I may try the away day experience at some stage then. Possibly Reading, if they come up as that is fairly close to me.

  74. Steve says:

    You’ll be lucky to get tickets chary. We only get 2,500 there and they are on a loyalty basis. Unless you get them in the Reading end.

  75. Pedro says:

    My mate gets involved in all that at West Ham… they do it miles away from the ground because a 3 year banning orders isn’t worth it…

  76. Franchise says:

    its annoying the amount of audience given to the fucking mancs. we have played on the same days in the CL with those fuckers for the whole campaign. If the games are on Tuesday’s we always are on ITV4 and the Mancs on ITV1. Why are we so hated? We need to win the cup double to upset those fuckers. I bet there would be some suicides if we do.

  77. Clacko the gooner says:

    Steve i live in Swindon mate.

    Jut spoke to him, it’s all good he is getting the Arsenal game put on :-D

  78. Steve says:

    If you ever see Melinda Messenger grab her tits for me.

  79. Duke says:

    Yeah it dosen’t happen at stadium anymore, each club has a place far away with less CCTV cameras and they organize “meetings” there.

  80. charybdis1966 says:

    That’s the other thing, Steve, at most grounds the allocation would mean I stand bugger all chance of getting tickets. I do remember seeing certain away games(generally for the northern hell-hole type venues) being on sale to red members this season though. Oh well, one day.

  81. Clacko the gooner says:

    Mate i happily would but she don’t live here now. She fucked off to the cotswolds and Bille Piper is somewhere, couldn’t really give a toss about her though, she has only ever looked fit on Top gear wearing that see through top!

  82. Jerseygooner says:

    Morning all,

    you can’t beat it. The anticipation of a CL Match and a History lesson free of charge from the most educational blog on the net (copyrighted) :-)

  83. Pedro says:

    Tell me about it Duke… trying to organize these rucks is tough these days… but we manage it.

    So… who is daring to make a prediction for tonight?

    I think it’s going to be tougher than we expect… maybe a 1-0 win…

  84. Steve says:

    Score draw Pedro.

  85. Jerseygooner says:

    2-0 to the Arsenal Gallas first goal

  86. Steve says:

    Clacko, Billie Piper looks like a wide mouth frog.

    I love Melinda’s tits. I’d almost move to Wilts just to be near them. Well, maybe not. But they are great tits.

    In all fairness to the girl, her arse aint too dusty either.

    But I also like Billie Piper’s arse.

    I’m rambling now aren’t I?

  87. Franchise says:

    Pedro im with u on that one. it would be tough. but u never know. theo’s pace is gonna be key. we need to get their full backs carded early on. Cesc’s free roaming role would also be key. I think in terms of attacking Cesc, Theo and Ade have to be on top of their game

  88. Pedro says:

    Franchise, I was reading the comments section of another blog last night and they were all saying Eboue should start ahead of Theo!

  89. reggie57 says:

    Seems like you are firming up there Steve lol

  90. Pedro says:

    Steve, I thought Billie Piper was minging until I saw her in the prostitute diary thing…

    That my friend, is worth a watch… alone.

  91. Steve says:

    Just trying to keep my mind off tonight old son. Fucking hate evening kick offs. Just spend all day thinking about it.

  92. dan says:

    great post. I heard it’s raining in villarreal tonight, raining arsenal goals :) 3-0 to the good guys

  93. arsenalised says:

    Arsenal Arsenal Arsenal woohooooo,is it me or is time so slow today,i want a piece of those villareal wankers.

  94. Steve says:

    Pedro, my missus watched that so I had a little peek. She must be the only prostitute in the world that never got her kit off.

  95. Steve says:

    dan, that’s handy mate. We can sink the yellow submarine.

    Fuck me I’m good.

  96. Duke says:

    Pedro, can’t be said better about Billie and the prostitute diary show.

  97. Evo in Oz says:

    cant wait to goto bed to wake up again for the game!

  98. Franchise says:

    Pedro i bet the reason they gave was cos Eboue is more defensive. With Den/Song in front of the defence we shouldnt need any player who is too defensive out wide.

  99. Baz says:

    Hello All,

    Talking about Villa’get’real and our penatly hero from last time, i really miss him….(although not in such form)
    http://www.soccerblog.com/2009/04/lehmann_dives_into_his_own_goa.htm

  100. Pedro says:

    They were just spanking off over Eboue… the AKB crowd. Crowing like we’ve already one the league!

    I can’t work out what’s gone on this season… it’s like the quality has dropped… or everyone’s got a bit closer?

    You couldn’t say it’s been a stellar year for anyone could you?

  101. Jay says:

    franchise – i hate the mancs as much as u do haha

    and do u know of the tv cartoon the tick..
    ur av looks like it would fit right in..

  102. Clacko the gooner says:

    Pedro i must admit that was a good show, well it wasn’t but you know what i mean ;-)

  103. gazzap says:

    I am pretty sure Diaby is not even in the squad, so I cant see him playing in place of Song. song will start. I agree that nasri will simply replace Arsh and we will go with how we played against City.

    we need to be careful tonight. do not under estimate Villreal. they are trained to keep the ball and pass under pressure. the fact they have lost carzola may even make them more dangerous. whoever replaces him will be trying to prove that he should be in the team.
    Its like RVP and Denilson being injured and then the Villareal fans getting all excited because we are weak. how do you think Eduardo and Ramsey would want to play if they came in? there are always quality players to come into top teams – and pelligrini is no fool.
    I expect a very low scoring affair and would take a 1-0 now with pleasure.

  104. Franchise says:

    Pedro most of the players that were tops last year have suffered this year. Overall IMO Liverpool have been the best side in the league. They are hardly taken unaware by opposing teams. they seem to be the most cohesive side.

    Our own problems were self made. we didnt have a good enough squad with deficiencies in key areas. Other teams like Mancs and Chelsea to an extent have just been scraping through. Liverpool on the other hand cant play without Gerrard and Torres.

    Its been a queer year

  105. deledudu says:

    I’m literarily tearing my nappy air out as I’m marooned in Dubai on a business trip and I can’t figure out where to watch the match. Does anyone on here know the city well enough to know a good watering hole that carries a bias for Gooners? Help!

  106. arsenalised says:

    I miss mad jens too.

  107. Franchise says:

    Villareal would try to play the away goal game over two legs they might set up to hit us on the break but i doubt they have the forwards to achieve this. Rossi is a tricky forward but i dont expect either him or llorente to cause us any troubles

  108. Franchise says:

    Nihat is back from injury :?

  109. rico01 says:

    Hello all, we are going to win big tonight, 3-1 for me

  110. Steve says:

    Sagna and Clichy have maintained a good level. Apart from small dips.

  111. Steve says:

    Franchise, i’m with you mate. I reckon Villareal would take a 0-0 tonight.

  112. reggie57 says:

    That tackle by carsley was disgraceful
    even worse was that sweaty saying “he’s hard but fair”
    ring any bells.

  113. Clacko the gooner says:

    I don’t think that Clichy has been the player he was last year. He was tops last year and only made a few errors but this season he has made a lot more mistakes. I don’t know, it has been a strange season. At times we have looked like they have all grown up together and then at other times they have looked like they have no idea who their own team mate is.

    I would love us to get a bit of silverware this season but kinda feel that if we didn’t then it’s not like we didn’t deserve it if ya know what i mean. if we win something we must be the only team in history to actually weaken our team over the close season and still win a trophy!

  114. arsenalised says:

    How tha fuck did all tha other clubs not get wind on Sagna,dont they have scouts?

  115. Clacko the gooner says:

    i do miss Jens too. Not necessarily for hi keeping ability but he was funny as fuck to watch haha

  116. Steve says:

    Clacko, he only had a bad spell when he had no regular player in front of him. It must be difficult when you have players in front of you that shouldn’t be there.

  117. maqitlarge says:

    the one score (outher than a pounding for us) is 0-0.
    think we’d tense up in the home leg (like we did when Chelsea equalised at Highbury in the QFs in 04)

  118. Jay2Oh says:

    Clichy is brilliant but he had a few horrible moments thi season. However, he aint the only one. THAT Slip at home to spurs when Jenas went and curled it in seconds later. God i hated that night.

  119. Evo in Oz says:

    morning all

  120. Pedro says:

    Steve is right… when you give the ball to Eboue… make an 80 yard run… and then he loses it… you’ve got to run all the way back and if a goal is scored, you are the one who is out of position.

    Now the pair of them know that if Nasri has the ball, he is unlikely to lose it… the same with Arshavin… that allows them to attack more freely.

  121. nishanth says:

    I am worried about sagna’s fitness.The guy hasnt got rest for god knows how long.With tough games coming one after another it might prove too much for him.I hope wenger rests him against wigan.Eboue can do a good job there.

  122. Franchise says:

    Im worried denilson and song would look out of depth in tonights game

  123. nishanth says:

    My bet is on nasri to score a goal.He has played really well in most of our big games.Nasri and walcott will play a key role today

  124. Jay2Oh says:

    I hope we get through tonight with no further injuries and a win (score draw would be ok) Wenger will mix it up against wigan on saturday. Hopefully diaby and eduardo are back, RvP to.

  125. Steve says:

    Not in a 5 man midfield they won’t Franchise. It’s a perfect set up for a game like tonight.

  126. nishanth says:

    The whole el madrigal factor wont make much of a difference either.If they can hold their nerves in the stab city this shouldn’t be a problem

  127. Clacko the gooner says:

    I do feel for Clichy because it has taken them tiemm to gel this season for whatever reason and when you actually look at the way in which both of the full backs play they do both bmb forward. I think that’s probably why Wenger told them earlier on to hold back more and then after a few game sof finding the right team they were allowed to go again. Still though Clichy has also given the ball away himself more this season but that may be because he didn’t feel comfortable making the easy pass because of who it would have been to maybe??

  128. Franchise says:

    Hope so Steve

  129. nishanth says:

    Carlos vela is there in the squad right?

  130. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Morning, morning!

    Geoff – great post! But just how old are you to be able to remember something that happened in 1759? :-)

  131. CHIBUZOR says:

    Even when Diaby is injured and ruled out,geoff still wants him to replace song..maybe arsene should put diaby in a wheel chair and roll him on to the pitch to please the old racist.

  132. Jay2Oh says:

    Vela is in the squad Nishanth. Maybe we will see him later on into the match.

  133. gooner-pak says:

    AW played bedner in midfeild in CL…so tht could also b a possibility..ade can play 90mins

  134. Big Dave says:

    My gut feeling is that this will be a draw 1-1 it will be a tight game, anything more then that then it will be a bounus.

    BTW Does anyone know of any pubs in north lon that show “live” gooner matches @ 3pm when we are not on tv
    that place in mill hill has closed down

  135. gooner-pak says:

    on either wing i dont remember the exact position

  136. Pedro says:

    CHIBUZOR, Geoff is racist… replacing a black player with a black player… it doesn’t get worse than that!

    Unless you meant racist towards white people?

  137. bini says:

    hi all, to excited & cant wait.. prediction
    3-0 … ade, denilson and (song) hehehe

  138. charybdis1966 says:

    Further proof of how much the Spuds trail in our wake was that report on brand values in football shows we are worth 3 times more than the Spuds (£201m compared to £66m) and 5th overall, behind the usual suspects, Barca, Franco’s team, Bayern and the Manskummers.
    They really are the Tiny Totts.

  139. Steve says:

    Geoff is racist towards white people.

    He called me a honky once.

    Anyway, the pub is open and i’m excited. See you chaps later.

  140. Pedro says:

    You are a honky…

  141. taeluvTW14 says:

    Great post geoff, I hope we do our best tonite, so that the element of surprise you talk about is not toward us from the yellow submarine.

  142. Faceman says:

    Wenger spelt out, in the strongest terms yet, why he has had to go for the cheap option and develop young players.

    It is purely down to the £400m cost of the Emirates Stadium, where the north Londoners moved to after that defeat in Paris.

    He explained: “The decision was to go for more youth when we decided to build a new stadium because we were not in a position where we could spend £30m or £40m on players. It’s as simple as that.

    “Whether people accept it or not is one thing, but today we have a good side, we make profit and we pay our debtors back.

    “In a modern world, people are scandalised when banks lose money but I’m scandalised when football clubs lose money. For me, it’s the same process.

    “I’m not against spending money, I’m against losing money.

    “When you build a stadium, we decided to go for a youth policy and it has benefits like bringing through young players, they develop a spirit together.”

  143. Faceman says:

    Basic maths :lol:

  144. Pedro says:

    Faceman, I think that article is pretty old and I think anyone who has followed the whole stadium thing understands that we started earning money on the stadium earlier than projected.

    That was the whole point… Wenger had a five year plan with the kids, but half way through he had money to spend… the dilemma was whether to spend or persist with project youth… he persisted.

    So it’s not really basic math… it’s digging up an old story that isn’t relevant any more.

    He’s had money and he’s had it for a while… he just chooses not to spend…

  145. Pedro says:

    If you want some more basic math…

    http://tinyurl.com/6f8v99

    Danny Fiszman is the guy who runs the show. He’s probably better placed than anyone to tell you there is money to spend.

  146. Pedro says:

    http://tinyurl.com/djyt83

    There is some more basic math… again, from someone who used to do the Gazidis job and masterminded the move…

  147. Faceman says:

    Pedro, they were quotes taken from Wenger at yesterdays press conference.

    So you were wrong, again ;)

  148. Pedro says:

    I shouldn’t really be trying to convince you… You did give Wenger God like status the other day when you said ‘Who am I to question the manager?’.

    It’s pretty clear you wont be convinced… even if the facts state otherwise.

  149. vandejie says:

    hi

  150. Pedro says:

    Faceman… Fiszman and Edelman were both wrong as well?

  151. Faceman says:

    Pedro, re:70M warchest :lol:

    Keith got sacked soon after that report… did he not?

    btw – are you still trying to suggest the accounts do not suggest a £50 million shortfall?

  152. vandejie says:

    At last, my first comment after trying for ages.

    Morning guys.

    Up Up Arsenal!

  153. Faceman says:

    Fizman, you mean the man who has just sold 5,000 shares in a falling market at last years prices?

    Fizman merley states we are well run, we make money and we service our debt.

    Where does he say we have mega bucks for big transfers?

    He doesn’t.

  154. Faceman says:

    Pedro, it is pretty clear you don’t like to read the REAL facts.

    I proved as per the accounts that we need to find £50M between may 08 and this year to pay off creditors.

    what did you prove again?

  155. Pedro says:

    I guess this part:

    “If he [Wenger] said to us ‘I want this guy and he’s £30m, can I buy him?’ then the answer is ‘Yes’, absolutely yes,”

    “We totally back him. It’s his decision. I’m unfortunately not good enough to be a manager myself but I’d love to be. It [spending money] would be no problem, no problem at all. It’s not our decision who he spends money on, nor will it ever be our decision.

    Then…

    There is this constant thing that the Emirates is bleeding the club. It’s total crap. Look at our accounts you will see our net payments are £20m and the revenue increase from the new stadium is close to £50m. Explain to me how that stadium bleeds the club if it’s producing an extra £30m a year.

    “Our wage bill is very similar to Manchester United and substantially above Liverpool’s – it’s substantially below Chelsea’s but that’s expected. We pay good salaries and pay them probably more evenly so we have less of the extremes. There is an ethos of a team effort.”

  156. Faceman says:

    Pedro, you tell me i pasted an old set of quotes from Wenger, which in turn were from yesterday.

    Then you tried to counter by posting quotes from nearly 2 years ago :lol:

    oxymoron?

  157. gooner-pak says:

    guys can u give me some links to wcth the macth online (contengency plan)
    there was some iraqfootball link like tht
    please if u can post as many as possible

  158. Pedro says:

    Faceman, you’re the only one stating we’re in trouble over this £50million.

  159. Faceman says:

    Yes Pedro, we make an extra £30 M a year… and how much of that is currently going to Creditors?

    Hmmm

  160. gooner-pak says:

    i’ve top provide this to other gooner in islamabad as well

  161. Faceman says:

    Please post where i said we are in trouble, you won’t.

    That is all you keep saying and i keep telling you we are NOT in trouble, we are run like no other club on earth.

    We live within our “current” means.

    Current being we make a lot, we pay off a lot of debt and therefore do not have the surplus, right now, to pay 35 million for a berbatov etc

    But we will, in time.

  162. Faceman says:

    While the large debt is being serviced and paid off with the extra revenue from the stadium we live on a smaller budget, hence the youth policy sprinkled with the odd big signing.

    In a few years, once the debt is more or less paid off and our servicing costs are vastly reduced, we will be able to splash out big, summer in summer out.

    Basic maths.

  163. charybdis1966 says:

    Faceman, if the auditors of Arsenal plc thought there was any problem with the “shortfall” then they would qualify the accounts on a “going concern basis” – as a listed company this would be headline news.
    The fact this has not, or has ever, happened goes to show there is NO issue with this perceived “shortfall”.

    This is too much like my day job and I’m too bored to talk about this again.

    Sorry.

  164. benno says:

    TBH, u’d have to be a fucking idiot to spend 35 mill on Berbatov :D

    Evening all.

  165. Faceman says:

    Again, who said there was a problem?

    I said there is 50m the accounts show will need to be raised or refinacned by this spring.

  166. Evo in Oz says:

    hey benno. berbatov was worth it, but not 35 mil.

  167. Faceman says:

    Berby has his cash and is in stroll mode.

  168. benno says:

    Sup Evo, suprised your not in bed already waiting for the game. Might be easier to stay up for it here and then sleep all day tomorrow. Berbatov, don’t rate him, didn’t at spurs, still don’t at united.

  169. Faceman says:

    I am saying, to make it really simple.

    My wages for 2010 are 50,000

    i need 44,000 for 2010 to pay all my bills, mortgages etc etc etc

    There is no problem with that, as i make 50,000…

    but does it now mean i can go and buy a new ferrari with my surplus cash?

    or does it mean i have the “current means” to buy a second hand BMW with my actual surplus?

  170. Pedro says:

    Faceman, who said anything about buying a £35million player?

    Again… you’re moving the goal posts to suit your argument. No one ever asked for £35million players… Alonso wasn’t up for £35million… nor was Arshavin.

    Shortfall defined:

    # A failure to attain a specified amount or level; a shortage.

    You are saying we are in trouble by saying there is a £50million shortfall.

    The net payments are £20million a year… fixed. The £50million you stated is coming out of the property sales.

    No SHORTFALL.

  171. Faceman says:

    Could you direct me to the part of the accounts it suggests this, Pedro?

  172. benno says:

    Faceman, he was made to look better than average at Spuds, by is less than average teamates. Even Ade puts him to shame with work rate which is saying something!!

  173. Evo in Oz says:

    yeah off to bed now, catch you all at 0445am. cheers. up the arsenal!

  174. Pedro says:

    Thanks Chary…

    I too am bored of this conversation. It was boring in the summer… and it’s even more boring now.

    Convincing people Arsenal are skint and owe a shortfall of £50million is a fruitless effort when you consider we just paid £17million for Arshavin.

  175. Faceman says:

    btw in 2012 my wages will be 75,000 and my mortgages wil more or less have been paid off :D

    my means at that time would suggest more money to spend on luxuries.

  176. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    hey is everyone prepared for a shock tonight?????????????????

  177. benno says:

    Night Evo, 0245 for me, what a shit time lol!

  178. maqitlarge says:

    To Dave @ 11.19.
    Sat 3pm games are always on in the Pins at F-Park.

  179. Faceman says:

    Pedro, who said we are skint?

    Why do you keep making things up, pedro?

    is that the only tactic you use when all else fails?

  180. Faceman says:

    We live within our current means.

    I do hope you understand what that means pedro, as it does not mean we are skint or in trouble,

    Rather the complete opposite, it means we do not try and keep up with the jones’s on our credit cards etc.

  181. reggie57 says:

    The shock is Ade is gonna score 4 tonight BBK

  182. charybdis1966 says:

    So is no one going to join in laughing at the Spuds who are worth a 1/3rd what we are?

    BTW Pedro – you are battling on manfully there.

  183. Pedro says:

    Faceman… if I had a £50million shortfall on something, it would be fair to say I’d be skint.

  184. Faceman says:

    Pedro, but if you were going to make 65M to cover it… would that also mean you were skint?

  185. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    correct reggie lolllllll

  186. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    correct reggie llolllll

  187. Pedro says:

    Faceman, you said our means over the last year were the same as a team at the bottom of the league.

    Is that true?

  188. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    correct reggie lollll

  189. Faceman says:

    Tbf, i am still picking myself up from the floor after your link to edelmans “70M warches” :lol:

  190. Pedro says:

    It wouldn’t be a shortfall then, would it?

  191. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    correct reggie

  192. Pedro says:

    Why faceman? Do you think he was sacked for that comment?

  193. Faceman says:

    Another lie, pedro?

    I said we had spent the avg of a bottom 10 premier league club in net transfers over the last 5 years.

    PMSL

  194. Faceman says:

    Pedro, it would be a shortfall in 2008, on paper.

    But in 2009, it would be covered.

  195. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    adebayor will score 4 goals tonight watch out

  196. reggie57 says:

    Is the BRITTLE man playing tonight?

  197. Pedro says:

    Even though it was only rumour he was sacked.

  198. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    nope lol

  199. Faceman says:

    No Pedro, it was the way you said i dredged up an old quote, which was actually from 24 hours ago… but you failed with a counter by actually dredging up an old quote.

    Really laughable.

  200. Faceman says:

    Ok, have we moved on to talking about somebody getting sacked now, pedro?

    :lol:

  201. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    robin van brittle

  202. charybdis1966 says:

    BBK – RvP was ruled out yesterday.

  203. Pedro says:

    Faceman, it could have been an old quote, Wenger said the same thing last summer and the summer before.

    The point of bringing up quotes from last year and the year before is that the board have always stated there is money to spend… year after year.

  204. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    i know c thanks lolll

  205. Faceman says:

    Yes, of course there is money to spend, naturally.

    But clearly not as much as the average gooner would “like to believe”

  206. Pedro says:

    Ok, so that is the point.

    We’ve had money to spend… and Wenger hasn’t spent it.

  207. Paulinho says:

    Wenger says we could no longer spend “30 to 40 million on a player”. When did we ever do that?

  208. Pedro says:

    Well… until he had to in January.

    Something which he should have done in the summer… when he also had money.

  209. Pedro says:

    Paulinho… it’s using extremes to make a point isn’t it.

    No one ever expected that much on a player… but you don’t need that much to buy a good player.

  210. Paulinho says:

    Pedro…..that’s what makes me think Wenger has always had a healthy wedge to buy someone in the 8-12 million range, at least someone to replace Flamini. He tried to buy Alonso didn’t he.

    It’s the way he uses extremes and mixes it with his idealist rhetoric that makes me think he’s trying to put people off the scent……the scent that it was his choice all along to go with youth and stick with it.

  211. Pedro says:

    Exactly the point I was trying to explain to Faceman.

    He’s always had cash to spend… but doing so would ‘kill’ a kids career.

    It would have suited Wenger more if we were actually skint like had been predicted.

  212. Duke says:

    He did try to buy Alonso, but didn’t because his valuation of him was 1 mil less than Pool’s after they already gave him like a 4 mil discount.

  213. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    fuck putting the youth first we need trophy’s,they are just holding us back

  214. Pedro says:

    Duke, that was a bad decision at the time, let alone with hind sight…

  215. Paulinho says:

    I notice that Macheda hasn’t been devastated and ‘killed’ by the the likes of Tevez, Rooney, and Berbatov in front of him lol.

  216. Pedro says:

    I haven’t seen Wilshere put in a transfer request because of Nasri and Arshavin.

    Even as a kid it must be exciting to go into work and play with really top players.

  217. Clacko the gooner says:

    BTW has anyone else actually noticed that we must have had money to spend on players because in the Summer we spent £12m or so on Nasri and then a further £16 or so on Arshavin in Jan. That’s £28m or so in technically one season. Quite obvious that there was money available if you ask me and those are definate facts.

  218. Clacko the gooner says:

    *as raf tha fat spanish waiter would say :-D

  219. Clacko the gooner says:

    *Rafa, the

  220. Clacko the gooner says:

    Sweet, hat-trick :-D

  221. Faceman says:

    Guys, i respect your views.

    Your belief is your belief and you are entitled to it, as am i to mine.

    i just think the current Board have an obligation to keep a united string front, i hardly expect them to come out and say ” ok we are little bit tied up in terms of transfer funds until we sort this debt out, but don’t woory, stick with us it will all turn out fine in the end”

    especially as such terminology would drop the share values in the club significantly.

    in my mind, wenger gave the board the go ahead for the stadium, knowing full well that until the debt was serviced to a reasonalbe level he would need to bring about a total youth policy and do the best he could to challenge for honours as there is no doubt since chelski money came along the framework for success has changed.

    to my mind, keeping us in the top4 and almost winning the title on a shoestring budget is remarkable.

    i firmly believe we are out of the worst of it and will get more and more free cash every summer in order to buy establilished players.

  222. charybdis1966 says:

    Paulinho, Panchoda will be lauded way above his actual worth because he plays for the Mankskummers.
    When Fergie discovers someone like that it’s a masterstroke.
    When Wenger does it shows that Arsenal should hang their heads in shame for letting the England national team down.

    F**k the media.

    F**k the papers.

    F**k the hacks.

  223. Pedro says:

    Clacko, not to mention the fact that we’ve been constantly in the champions league, we didn’t spend our TV money, we’ve made a £1.6mill profit on players in the last 5 years… only bettered by Reading.

    Even a skint club like Everton out spend us!

  224. Faceman says:

    clacko you forget we recouped nigh on 17M last summer so net we have spent 11m this season-sih.

    How much have wigan, hull, bolton spent, net?

  225. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    Theo Walcott a major doubt. How much of a setback is that?

    Walcott is nursing his way back from a knee problem. He will have a fitness test today and he will start if it is at all possible, mainly because Arsenal need his pace.

  226. Paulinho says:

    Wenger obviously made the right decsion bringing in Arshavin but it’s something that should have been done in the summer really. Rosicky was always going to be very risky proposition.

    Wenger himself said he could have gotten Arshavin in for cheaper in the summer so he’s actually spent more money than he should have by waiting to January.

    That’s the worry with Wenger. He always seems to wait too long to a address a problem and because of that delay, we potentially lose players and possible silverware and it’s always a case of ‘next season’.

  227. Faceman says:

    they wanted 23M for Arshavin in the summer

    is there an actual factual figure on what we paid in jan?

    it ranges from 10-17M

  228. Clacko the gooner says:

    That’s what i am saying Pedro, this is like the first season we have spent when we have been making the same money and paying off the same amount towards bills every year give or take a couple of mill here or there.

    Not to mention the considerable difference in revenue we received in our first year at the Emirates.

  229. Duke says:

    Pedro, it was indeed a bad decision.
    The thing is Wenger has put a mentality into those players that they should be playing 1st team football by the age of 20, so when they are 22 and still not in the starting line up, they start to think to leave. Which is very very stupid.
    For example at Manure O’Shea and Park are both from 81 and play bit time roles, Evans is 21 and is waiting for his chance. Players like that would leave us a long time ago. It’s just a wrong aproach.

  230. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Paulinho – Its funny how the good players can almost become role models to the youth isn’t it! :-)

  231. Paulinho says:

    I think tonight will be the litmus test of the likes of Denilson and Song and as a result, Wenger’s grand plan.

    If they step up and play with the confidence they often exude when we’re stroking around in the last twenty mintues at the Emirates, then I’ll be more of a believer.

    I just fear Denilson and Song might revert to type a little bit tonight against a pressing, high-tempo Villareal midfield. Denilson struggled massively against Roma in Rome, imo.

  232. Pedro says:

    http://tinurl.us/b98477

    Third table down, a bit out of date now.

  233. Paulinho says:

    Faceman, I used to think that too, but Wenger said when we signed Arshavin that we could have gotten him for £2 million cheaper in the summer.

    Spurs didn’t offer half as much as was reported.

  234. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    denilson should watch and learn how its done tonight by senna

  235. Clacko the gooner says:

    Faceman i would like to see how much the bottom clubs have spent net over 5 years given our considerable difference in income we receive and they receive. WEhave champs league, they do not, we get more for finishing 4th than they do for finishing 17th, we have a bigger stadium, bigger fan base and more marketing capability than them yet when compared over the 5 years i would i reckon safely say that we have not spent as much as them.

  236. t-buzz says:

    Afternoon fellow red warriors of the North(London)!! ;)
    Are we feeling confident of a victory or what! Iam hoping we nick it 2-0 away and at home(4-0 agg).

    by the way, anyone seen this goal?

    http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/index.php/2009/04/06/the-best-goal-this-weekend-wasnt-in-the-premier-league-2

    :)

  237. Geoff says:

    Faceman sounds like London in disguise!

    Whatever anyone says about having money or not, Wenger said when we decided to build the stadium that it was the only way we could compete with Chelsea and ManU.

    He didn’t say we would spend no money for 5 years and we’d be skint and would have to rely on youth, that lie came afterwards.

    So what did he mean ‘compete with Chelsea and ManU’ how have we done that???

    He also didn’t say he would put the prices down as we would win fuck all for 5 years, he should have done though.

  238. Faceman says:

    But Zenit never accepted any bids as they held out for 20M plus.. hence him going on strike.

  239. Duke says:

    Paulinho, there is no chance that happened, Zenit did not want to sell him at all, that is why no one got him in the summer. Zenit laughed at Barca for a month when they said 16. Zenit wanted 23 and would not badge, the Russian media was calling him a slave.

  240. kirby says:

    i wouldnt like arsenal to be that patient tonight, i think we could get a couple out there! also we dont want it to be 0-0 with us trying to nick a goal and then they go down the other end and score late thats to fustrating! 2 away goals should do it!

  241. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    if theo don’t play i doubt we will score over there

  242. Faceman says:

    Geoff, 5 years will be in 2010 :D

    He also said we would compete with Manures, Real etc over the LONG TERM.

    As i have said before…. that lovely spanking new, near half a billion quid stadium we now play in was not donated to us i’m afraid.

    We will actually have to use a lot of the extra revenue in the first few years to pay off a “loan” that was taken to build it you see.

  243. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    theo is the key tonight if he’s out it will not be good

  244. Wardo says:

    guys, a question! Do you think there is another pre manager that would have kept their team in the top 4 by using youth players and spending very little??

    I think what Faceman is saying is accurate. I dont want to be called an AKB but, he sure as hell knows a fcuking lot more that I do……I’m pleased we moved to the Grove (although loved Highbury) and feel it has come at a cost…….but, not as big a cost as it could have been.

    Wenger has always done and continues to do a very good job in my eys……..Even Song is starting to show improvments. I dont shit my pants as much as i used to when he plays…….I even think he may get a cheeky goal tonight

  245. Faceman says:

    At last !!

    Some perspective.

  246. kirby says:

    1 away might do it but 2 would definitely put us through…

  247. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    i think s.a.f could of done the same thing as wenger

  248. Faceman says:

    BBK – without his trusty chequebook, i doubt it.

  249. Paulinho says:

    Song definately has the ability to score from a corner or set piece tonight. It’s just about him going there and playing care free.

    I think he can dominate central midfield.

  250. Faceman says:

    and protect our goal from high ball set pieces.

  251. tonyadamsisgod says:

    If forced too, I think Ferguson, the most succesful manager in the premiership by a fucking country mile could have done the job without his ‘trusty cheque book’. As it stands he doesnt need to, and so he spends, he signs, he wins trophies…..

  252. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    what about the golden generation he had come through, which helped him to win the league

  253. Duke says:

    Song can sing, that’s about it. Don’t get me wrong, he improved, but he was soon shit before, people think he is half decent now, but really he is just less shit, but still the worst player on the pitch most games.

  254. A says:

    i don’t for a second bbk, ferguson has had it all relatively easy at utd, he’s always been able to outspend everyone else (bar chelsea) and had the best kids in the country coming through when he arrived. He’s a good manager, but not a great spotter of talent and we wouldn’t have been very good in our situation imo (though obviously he’s been incredibly successful at utd).

    i agree wardo, with a different manager, or a different policy we wouldn’t still be competing in the top four and the other competitions. It’s actually a big achievement we’ve managed that over the last 3 years, and now we need to and will be pushing on and winning everything there is to win! Next season in my eyes we’ll be a level above the rest and the team to beat, and could still win the fa cup and champs league this year. If we’d not adopted the youth policy we wouldn’t be at that level, or have the potential to be at that level.

  255. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    thats a great shout t.a.i.g.wenger seems to forget you get prize money for winning trophy’s

  256. Faceman says:

    Not too many years ago he was pilloried for bringing in too many youth players… and then, and only then, building upon that core with big additions.

    Nice strategy, i wonder if any other club might follow it.

  257. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    denilsong should take a good look at senna tonight and be shown hows it’s done

  258. kirby says:

    we dont wanna finish 4th next season so little bit of experience and strenth comes in we can challenge we will see what the manager does.

    just worried that we have a strong finish to the season gallas goes and wenger brings senderos back and say djourou and senderos are enough cover, or he doesnt get that strong def mid and then we dont mount a serious challenge! but who knows what he will do!!

  259. Paulinho says:

    I hope we don’t play 4-5-1 though.

    I want:

    —–Almunia—–
    Sagna-Toure-Gallas–Clichy

    Eboue–Fabregas–Song–Nasri

    ——Adebayor–Bendtner—

    Go 4-4-2 on their arses, they won’t be expecting it.

    We can’t play passive lateral football against these guys and get involved in a midfield quagmire.

    We should play direct and long to Ade and Bendtner and play the game in their half, keep them turning all the time. Then we can play start playing through the middle in bursts.

  260. A says:

    i don’t taig – before fergie had the golden generation on a plate and the ability to outspend everyone he almost got sacked at utd! he’s an overrated manager imo, and a level below the likes of wenger. He’s been fantastically successful winning at a club that should be winning, he’s a very good manager, but couldn’t work miracles or do what wenger has at a smaller club.

  261. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    even with the team we had in 03-04 wenger could not win a premier league b2b or even bring a champions league,some how i doubt fergie couldn’t do the same job as wenger has done

  262. Faceman says:

    Now that it is clear the youth have developed and a string squad is there, with the addition of one or two players this summer.. i would say anything but 1st place in the league next year will be a disgrace.

    I can’t see the disturbances of last summer with pleb, flamini and ade causing grief.

    So we should have a solid pre-season with the 20 somethings all a year older and wiser.

    fucking bring it ON

  263. Faceman says:

    AKB?

    how about AKBTY as the anti-thesis?

    Arsene Knows Better Than You.

  264. Geoff says:

    Faceman, as a shareholder I kind of knew the stadium wasn’t donated, but thanks for putting me in the picture.

    I will consider that before I write my next post.

    The 5 year thing will be true is we win nothing this season and I really remember him saying in order to compete with Chelsea and ManU, he didn’t say in the long term, and even if he did, 4 years is long term enough for me when I’m paying what I am every season.

    It only took 3 years to build the stadium.

  265. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    ok your gonna have man city spend in the summer man u and chelsea spending liverpool spending if wenger don’t bring in a least another 3-4 quality players we will be left behind yet again.

  266. Mandanda says:

    Song was never as bad as he was made out to be on here!(this is not an invitation for another Song debate, please!!!)
    As for the transfer fees of players, its is ver difficult knowing how much AW pays for players. However, given time, it seems to unravel. I remeber seeing an article claiming we paid £16M for Reyes, turns out we paid £10.5M
    Should be a tight match today, really looking forward to it…1-1 to me

  267. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    arsene has not been true to that staement for the past 4 years has he now

  268. Faceman says:

    Geoff – if paying for a season ticket is hurting you the most, don’t.

    simple solution.

  269. Geoff says:

    How about WTFDYK – that’s what the fuck do you know?

  270. tonyadamsisgod says:

    A – Ferguson is over rated? Come on pal, play the game! I dont think you would find a single football realted person, be it a player, manager, coach, pundit or commentator that would agree that Ferguson is over rated! You cant say he’s crap because he has money to spend or becuase he holds onto his players rather than sell them when he thinks he could make a profit. I think its fair to argue that finding Ronaldo was quite a successful venture into recruiting a kid. He was basically a no one. Or are you going to tell me that he only signed him because Wenger was interested in him?

  271. Pedro says:

    Geoff, not to mention that we have the stadium on a 17 year mortgage… for manageable payments.

  272. A says:

    bbk the difference in prize money between 1st and 4th is minimal, and dwarfed by tv money etc. Financially you get fuck all for winning things, certainly not enough to cover any sort of transfer spending

    paulinho i really want us to play 4-2-3-1 tonight, i think it suits us better, and i doubt cesc is fit enough to play in 4-4-2. It also gives cesc, nasri, and theo more freedom to attack, rather than having alot of defensive responsibilities. I expect song and denilson to dominate the midfield completely tonight, as they did against liverpool, and give cesc a lot of freedom to create.

    normal back five

    ——denilson–song——

    theo——cesc——nasri

    ——–ade/bendtner——-

    i dunno whether i’d prefer bendtner or ade to play, it doesn’t suit bend that well playing that position, he’d hold the ball up much better but be less of a goal threat.

  273. Faceman says:

    NAMAW

    Not as much as Wenger

    anybody who comes on an internet forum claiming they do, needs sectioning :lol:

  274. Faceman says:

    Yes, Pedro, we manage the debt very well.

  275. kirby says:

    i hope they dont go over there with the poor peformance in rome!

  276. Clacko the gooner says:

    Sorry to be a bit late on this one but there is a manager that could do what Wenger is and he is actually also doing it albeit on a smaller scale and that’s David Moyes!

  277. Pedro says:

    Faceman, you know that we don’t subscribe to the AKB mantra… because people like that are very, very boring.

  278. Geoff says:

    Faceman, thanks again for the season ticket advice, here’s some for you, if you don’t like anything we all do on here, why not go and blog on arsenal.com? I’m sure they would agree with everything you have to say.

  279. Faceman says:

    :lol:

    good one pedro

  280. Franchise says:

    here we go again A thinks Sir Alex is over-rated. Sometimes people ……..

  281. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    ok for winning the c.league you get 80 million how is that minimal plus he got extra millions for winning the league if we had the right players to go and win the league and champions league we would be a lot closer to paying off that souless piece of crap

  282. Faceman says:

    geoff – i have no issues debating, do you?

    certainly not ruffling my feathers, healthy debate is good.

    some like it, some don’t.

  283. A says:

    taig i never said ferguson was crap – i said he’s overrated because he’s never worked miracles at any club, because he’s never had to. His skills as a manager suit the biggest club in the world well, but he’s never overachieved because he’s never had to, or been able to, but i’m not sure he could.

    ronaldo was signed for 12 and a half million as an 18 year old, everyone knew about him fergie certainly didn’t find him! He wasn’t a noone he was one of the highest rated young kids in the world, and tearing apart the portuguese league as a teenager. That’d be like claiming he found rooney!

  284. Faceman says:

    80 million for winning the champ league, BBK?

    is there a link for that?

  285. Geoff says:

    Faceman, this site is not a Uni debating site, we are all like minded Arsenal fans and when people come on and just argue for effect, it stops people coming on, that I don’t like, make your point and move on or go elsewhere.

  286. Duke says:

    Faceman, sorry to get into your “debate” but for me if you tell a person to not renew his season ticket because he is not satisfied with 4th place every year and winning nothing is a bit rude.

  287. kirby says:

    man utd were shit when fegurson took over

  288. Faceman says:

    Geoff, sorry but at the top of this site it clearly states…

    “A blog where you can have an opinion, not get one”

    Am i not allowed an opinion? or does my opinion have to concur strictly with yours?

    Once i understand the rules it may be clearer.

  289. Jay says:

    Thought id share this – if u loved bobby – please watch… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8GuxcFuw58&feature=related

  290. Clacko the gooner says:

    i am not one to be naieve, Sir Alex is a good manager, so is David Moyes and Rafa has the potential to be if he can turn CL performances into league performances which he is beginning to do although he needs a plan b and c because without Gerrard and Torres they are shit at best. Wenger obviously is a class manager also, any others imo would not be up to managing a top top team.
    Also Martin o’Neil has the opportunity to become a very good manager but he is still learning at the moment and some of his decisions seem to be made to cut his nose off to spite his face.

  291. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    go google it faceman prize money for winning the champs league

  292. Denilson (Formerly Known As EbookReader) says:

    I’m with you A on team selection except I’ll start with Eboue and bring on Theo (I don’t Theo is fit to last 70 min tonight).

  293. Franchise says:

    overrated manager with

    14 league titles,
    9 FA cups,
    4 league cups,
    2 CL titles,
    2 european cup winners cup,
    2 super cup,
    1 world club cup

    Fergie had won things b4 United should in case u didnt realise

  294. Paulinho says:

    A, apart from Nasri, that’s the same team that lined up against Sunderland earlier in the season and struggled to get anything going at all offensively.

    I don’t think Fabregas has the ability to play in the ‘hole’. He could find space against a rudderless Man City on Saturday but in the champions league he’ll be too slow, lack mobility, and not be able to get away from Villareal defenders/midfielders. I think he’ll be getting dispossessed all night long with his back to their goal. That’s not really his game playing with his back to goal.

    I think we should drop him back where can find more space and then he can hit Ade and Bendtner in the channels. I think this will work cause Villareal will want to press us into our half and they will leave space in behind.

    If we play 4-5-1 I don’t think we have the ability to play around the pressure they will put on us. Denilson’s passing falls apart when he plays in such situations, like it did against Roma. Villareal will nullify us easily if we try and play last year’s style of football imo.

  295. Duke says:

    Seen that Jay, top notch.

  296. Pedro says:

    A… I think you could say that about any player Arsenal unearth.

    They’re all known about… I think Thierry was Monaco’s highest youth team scorer and a world cup winner. Paddy was very highly rated at Milan, just too young… Cesc was held in high regard by Barca… I think Van Gaal left a not on the Presidents desk saying,

    ‘You’ve just lost one of the best talents we’ve ever had’

    Fergie is a good manager… I think he’d do well anywhere… same with Mourinho and Rafa.

  297. Mandanda says:

    Without trying to sound like a fan of SAF, I would like to point out that he won the UEFA Cup with Aberdeen and the Scottish league (twice) breaking the Rangers-Celtic stranglehold (I don’t think any other club has done so since. Another thing, the so called golden generation were supplemented by marquee signings like mclair, robson, keane, cantona and so on.

    Nonetheless, AW is a great manager in his own right

  298. Geoff says:

    Simple really, by keeping on labouring your points you are by default giving your opinion, go back and read our other posts and there comments, this is more like a chat line, not one for arguing all the time, that gets tedious, it’s your call.

  299. kirby says:

    cant spell today sorry ferguson!!

  300. Pedro says:

    Faceman, I know you think you’re being clever… but you’re pissing me off and you’re pissing Geoff off.

    Yellow card.

    If you continue to incite… you’ll be off for the day.

  301. Franchise says:

    hate to say it Sir Alex is a legend

  302. Faceman says:

    Ok so i am allowed my opinion. Good.

    Sorry if it differs from yours, Geoff.

    As i made a clear statement earlier which said “I RESPECT others views”

    That is life, Geoff, you have your view i have mine. I am not swearing at you or anything so i am wondering why i have got under your skin so much… as i defo did not plan this.

    I always respect other views.

  303. Franchise says:

    PAulinho if i would have Cesc anywhere on the pitch it would be behind a lone striker, limited defensive responsibilities, all offence.

  304. Faceman says:

    Pedro, ???

    I never swore or said anything out of turn… could you explain please?

    If the yellow card if for having a different view to you then so be it.

    i accept my yellow card.

  305. Geoff says:

    Then we’re on the same page Faceman, no problem.

  306. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    s.a.f should be the bench mark for wenger,prehaps one day he might learn a thing or two from him,regarding signing the right players and not letting the experienced ones leave

  307. Faceman says:

    Cheers Geoff ;)

  308. Franchise says:

    Faceman ive read through your debate all day long u came out as very provocating and irritating. And i believe u knew what u were doing

  309. Duke says:

    hahahahha

  310. Jay says:

    duke, he truly is class…. i can only compare our russian as a player close to his skill/vision out wide in our squad…

  311. A says:

    i wouldn’t say that pedro – fergie has only ever signed players on a high.

    i’d say they’re no different from the likes of cesc, theo, and ramsey, who were both incredibly highly rated, but wenger also saw something in failed (although previously highly rated) players, and brought that out in them, a la henry, vieira. As well as the nobodies like grimandi, song, denilson, senderos, djourou, bendtner, vela, clichy. Ade probably fits into both groups, not particularly highly rated but failed.

    Fergie has never done that sort of thing, but that’s because he’s never had to do that sort of thing. Whether or not he could if necessary do it and still be as successful is open to debate.

    fergie is an incredible manager at utd, and did very well at aberdeen, but i dunno if his skills would be as transferable in different situations as wenger, mourinho, hiddink etc, though we’ll never find out so it’s a pretty irrelevant debate!

  312. Keyser says:

    If Wenger wants to go on to be remembered as a World reknowned Cunt by all Arsenal fans, then Ferguson defeninetly sets the bar as high as it could possibly go.

    Good Point Boy Better Know Sho..

    Also are you different from Boy Better Know ?!

  313. Franchise says:

    u reminded me at times of those kids at primary skool who were always like ‘my dad is richer than urs na na na na na’

  314. Faceman says:

    Franchise, it may appear that way because my view is different to yours.

    I wonder if wardo and a who shared a similiar view found my posts provocative.

    Life should not be about knocking somebody with a differing view, we should share opinion openly.

    Thanks.

  315. Pedro says:

    Faceman, there aren’t any rules about swearing.

    There are rules about being pedantic and irritating… my rules.

    You are breaking them.

  316. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    nah im the same one

  317. Duke says:

    Fran, don’t you get beat up for being rich of your dad? Mentality i always followed :D

  318. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    but alot of people already think wenger is a cunt

  319. Faceman says:

    Pedro, i am just expressing my view and backing it up at every junctre.

    Can this really be called irratating behaviour?

  320. Jay says:

    why cant they all take them like this…

  321. Paulinho says:

    Franchise I think Fabregas should be playing deeper, in a Xavi like position.

    He lacks the pace, goal threat, and agility to consistently be called upon as an offensive threat.

    Fabregas’s attacking abilitities are always best used in a subtle way, so he can ghost in. When the opposition know he is being deliberately placed in an offensive role, plans will be made for him and he will stopped with relative ease.

  322. tonyadamsisgod says:

    A – Ronaldo was a lot less known that Rooney. Fact. Tearing up the EPL is a lot harder than tearing up the Portuguese Liga Sagres! If Wenger was at United and had that money to spend then he would have and I presume you would be here telling us that Wenger is over rated.

    I know you are not disputing this but Ferguson can only do what is needed…..something he has done with ruthless efficiency! Money has little to do with it. Yes it helps you bring in star players but you still need to ‘manage’ them! Most coaches that Real Madrid have had have been shit compared to Ferguson and they have bundles of cash to burn!

    I can only presume that you think Wenger is the best manager in the world bar none??

  323. Keyser says:

    Is Boy Better Know the lite version ? It wouldn’t surprise me if you think he’s a cunt, do you ?!

  324. Pedro says:

    Faceman, playing the ‘All I’m doing is offering an opinion card’ is a tired one as well.

    You know what you are doing, I respectfully ask you to stop it.

    Then there will be no problem.

  325. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    these past couple of years i think he has been one

  326. A says:

    paulinho i disagree about cesc – he plays in that position for spain when he’s selected, and the added freedom gives him a greater ability to attack. Whether it’s the position he’ll ultimately play for us when he’s 100% is open to debate, but he currently not being fully fit couldn’t play in a 4-4-2, and he has to play imo, so it has to be with two dms behind him. He doesn’t have to play in the hole, it just gives him freedom to find space and influence that play wherever he sees the opporunity, without the defensive responsibilities to hamper him.

  327. Faceman says:

    Pedro, would you prefer it if i did not blog here?

  328. Franchise says:

    just to prove my point what was really laughable about this

    ————————————————–
    Faceman Says:
    April 7, 2009 at 12:24

    No Pedro, it was the way you said i dredged up an old quote, which was actually from 24 hours ago… but you failed with a counter by actually dredging up an old quote.

    Really laughable.
    —————————————————–

    there are worse exaamples but hey……

  329. Faceman says:

    This is crazy guys, i am seriously being as honest as possible and not being obtuse in any fashion whatsoever.

    Its banter.

  330. Geoff says:

    Faceman I would, you just don’t know when to stop trying to be the center of attention.

  331. Keyser says:

    Good for you Boy Better Know Sho, complete lack of surprise here.

  332. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    im mean you have got to be one one playing the likes of denilsong,bendtner,senderos in your team and thinking there good enough to help you win things,come on

  333. Geoff says:

    So I’m near the Madrigal and it hailstones and lightning!

    I wish Kelsey were around.

  334. A says:

    paulinho xavi plays in a role in front of 2 dms at times…. at other times he plays in front of one dm, but certainly in a more advanced role than the normal 4-4-2….

    taig of course rooney was more well known in england, throughout europe they were probably similarly known though, and both were very well known and very highly rated througout europe.

    wenger has been an incredible manager for us, and is a fantastic manager, but the likes of mourinho are at the same level. ferguson is possibly just on that level but he’s never really been tested or had to do it in difficult circumstances..

  335. Faceman says:

    Ok guys, cheers and lets hope for an away goal or 2 tonight.

    Good luck guys.

  336. Pedro says:

    BBK, surely you can be positive before a game?

  337. Jay says:

    who likes cesc a lil up more, sorta of a diego role for werder – if cesc wins the balls up the pitch moreas he is a underestimated tackler..and have more energy to just exert on attack..how can that be a bad thing ? who agrees :)

  338. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Good Fergie signings:

    Van der Sar – £2m
    Foster £1m
    Vidic – £7m
    Evra £5.5m
    Park – £4m

    These are just a few Fergie signings to prove that he isn’t all about the cash!!

  339. Clacko the gooner says:

    Right to change the debate here and lighten the mood i think we should get back onto the classic, Bendtner! Do you like him or not? :-D

  340. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    pedro if theo plays tonight,i will happy if denilson plays i will be unhappy

  341. A says:

    faceman don’t leave, you’re one of the few who thinks in a similar way to me!

    don’t worry about it – i had the same a few weeks ago where i seemed to piss 90% of people off on here bigtime and had no idea how i did it!

  342. Clacko the gooner says:

    Also £5.5m for Evra, sorry for sounding like a fucking manc here but that is a bargain!

  343. tomstoned says:

    mornin All..:)

    exciting day..or to put it right times…ive read the dispute going on and dont mean to offend anyone…remeber i just love Arsenal..and that doesnt change a bit win or loose..in my simple mind i think we compete with both chelski and utd..so far this season we’re on top of them..
    and for me there’s never a good ide to buy success..i think that point is more than proven in the Italian league..almost bankrupt with poor stadiums which needs to be upgraded pronto..but there’s no money…
    in a few years there will be strict rules when it comes to beeing allowed to carry billions in debt..so quite a lot of clubs will have to change they’re attitude towards the economic side of the game.
    Wenger has done a great job and we’re now beginning to see the results…but still i feel he could at times be more honest with us the fans..still i feel he has proven us wrong…he seems to get it right once more.

    my concern is the board whom i feel have been letting us all down…

    but after we have crushed and sunk the yellow submarine tonite..thats not a prediction but a fact..:)we’ll be happy campers again..

    and letss all look ahead..we’re in paradise and Our Beloved Arsenal will shine and glitter for years to come…

    forget about chelski..that team is getting way old and lets see how they cope with having to create a new team…utd is crumbling…villa outplayed them saturday…there is actually no utd.left there’s that crybaby ronaldo..and well not much more..

    so lets all be happy Gooners the future belongs to us…no doubt…

    tom.

  344. kirby says:

    man utd played sporting in a friendly and ronaldo had a great game and showed his potential and apparantly ferguson was interested but also a load of united players were saying to him on the plane home please gaffer buy him!! so i read a few years back

  345. Mandanda says:

    700,000euros for Clichy is a bargain

  346. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    were on top of 2 teams that are above us what a great shout

  347. Paulinho says:

    A, your basing it on that game versus Russia when he came on as a care free substitute, against a side that hadn’t really planned for him to play as a withdrawwn striker and a side that doesn’t bother to track runners from deep.

    In that context Fabregas used his intelligence and did some good things.

    However we saw against Italy when he started there and Italy planned for it….how ineffective he was. He couldn’t impose himself on the game at all and started dropping deep. He was eventually hauled off after sixty minutes.

    The Man City game would be similar to the Russia game. Novelty factor playing a part, his first game in months, eager to impress etc.

    Tonight will be like the Italy game, playing against a team wise and alert to his threat.

    It will be a grave mistake to play Fabregas in a 4-5-1 tonight. We need his ability to keep the ball in front of our defence, not getting shafted from behind further up the pitch by physical Villareal defenders.

  348. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    united only struggled because they were missing there key players if liverpool could do them 5-0 im sure the mancs can with there strongest team out there

  349. Clacko the gooner says:

    Faceman, You don’t need to stop blogging just realise when you start to irritate people and change the subject, job done no harm.

  350. A says:

    taig vidic and evra he got for a good price, the rest are an irrelevance!

    van de sar was cheap because of his age and his contract was off, he certainly wasn’t unknown! park is average, foster doesn’t even play for them yet. If he turns into a very good keeper then he’ll be a steal, but he could just as easily do a carson.

    ferguson hasn’t done the buying on the cheap thing because he hasn’t had to. There’s no proof he wouldn’t be able to, but there’s no proof he would

  351. A says:

    though cantona was one hell of a signing

  352. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Tom – You’re brilliant…..can I have a few of what ever it is your taking? What a thoroughly nice chap!

    :-)

  353. Clacko the gooner says:

    Mandanda that is true also haha.

    i think overall we have got the better bargains :-D

  354. Pedro says:

    A, I reckon it was when you said that paedophiles shouldn’t be punished?

    Just a hunch…

  355. Jay says:

    paulinho – villa defenders not upto the class and dont work as a 11man unit like italy do…and with song and denilson there behind him, i feel that triangle is enough to protect the 4.. toure and gallas also push up when needed which has helped den and song..

  356. Stu says:

    *and it aint up north!!

  357. Paulinho says:

    A, That’s why I’ve got Eboue playing on the right. Playing a bit deeper covering for Cesc in a 4-4-2.

  358. Franchise says:

    Faceman no one is sending u away.

    Argumentum ad hominem – Ad hominem fallacies are perhaps the most common, where criticism is directed at the opinion holder rather than their argument. They can be abusive attacks (totally irrelevant) or circumstantial (to shed doubt upon a particular aspect of the argument).

  359. tonyadamsisgod says:

    A – I want suggesting unknowns, just good signings from a manager that is good enough to spot class below the superstar’s of the game. Van der sar has been an amazing signing for Utd and Foster will be even better soon. Foster will NOT do a Carson, no way! And you ask any manc and they will say that Park has contributed some very vital performances in a Man Utd shirt over the years! They love him!

    Anyway, I just think it was a bit much to say he was over rated. But hey ho, your opinion and I wont begrudge you of that!

    Even if you are completely WRONG! :-)

  360. A says:

    paulinho denilson keeps the ball better than anyone in the prem in front of our defence. Cesc plays there pretty much every time he plays for spain, and often does well there, it wasn’t a one off against russia. The italy game he was nullified but that can happen to anyone. If we don’t play 4-2-3-1 tonight then cesc isn’t fit enough to play. It isn’t a withdrawn striker role, it’s an attacking midfielder role, so he can get in the positions more frequently he gets his assists from sliding balls through for ade or theo.

    that’s what we’ll be playing tonight anyways so we can debate how well it and cesc worked after the game!

  361. Mandanda says:

    anytime Clacko :)

  362. Wardo says:

    sorry guys….i pose a question then work takes me away from what I should be doing…….

    TAIG…..I’m a respect man. I respected Sir Alex when he stayed on at Manure and won the tiltle in the chavs face….really did show his worth. however, when it comes to pure football, the way the game is played and developing younsters, Wenger is head and shoulders above him…..I am not too sure if Sir Alex F would have kept Utd in the top four, Semi FA and Qtr CL………it is an acheivment

    Altho, it is frustrating for the fans……..but, I dont think we had that much choice

  363. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Franchise – we all know you’re a spaz so stop trying to sound clever! :-)

  364. Jay says:

    arrgh its close to 11, need to be up 4 30. Goodnite frm Oz – ill be back on in the mornin’ ;)

  365. Franchise says:

    A can we agree Fergie is not under rated and move on. Wenger doesnt believe that Fergie is over rated neither does Fergie believe Wenger is under rated. Both have unbelievable respect for each other. Both have qualities the other would wish to have. There is no point arguing about this. Fergie is easily one of the best managers of all time to grace the English game so is Wenger. end of story

  366. Pedro says:

    ‘Sleep well Jay… for the morning shall bring Glory!’

    Pedro – 07-04-09

  367. Franchise says:

    Taig the power of google :mrgreen: chary is the intellectual on here. Pedro tries hard. Geoff is a legend.

  368. Wardo says:

    * much choice as in the funds were bnot there and no company who has any sense lets their competitors know their true position….

  369. tomstoned says:

    Taig :) no wonder cure mate…just lovin Our Beloved Arsenal man :) that does it every time come rain or shine..hehe

    BBk we have a totally different view of the game and i accept that mate..ive read most of youre posts and to me youre more the buy buy buy type and well i just love the game…im not willing to win at any cost..

    but i am however willing to die for my Beloved Arsenal..sell my house my car get rid of the Misses..nothing comes between me and Our Beloved Arsenal BBk…thats the way it has been since i watched my first game …back in -71 :)

    but differetn opinions is what makes us tick..so i hear ya BBk…

    tom

  370. Pedro says:

    Cheers Franchise…

    ‘Oh he’s a bit dim, but at least he tries!’

  371. Mandanda says:

    how about a 4 – 2 – 1 – 2 – 1, which is similar and sometimes how Barca play

  372. A says:

    oh yeah that was on time pedro (though that isn’t essentially what i said but not gonna get back into it!)

    also happened when chatting about football, and couple of other times, can’t remember why.

    ha taig, i’m not saying he’s not a very good manager, and a great manager for utd, but just that he’s considered the best ever etc etc by some people, and i think that is greatly overrating him as he’s never had to do it without alot of advantages

  373. Duke says:

    I want Cesc to play in a Viera position, but he will need a new partner then.

  374. kevin says:

    Hi guys

    Anyone else think we should go all out attack today. As the last time we went to villareal, and sat back, we were dismantled. Absolutely destoryed.

    So lets go at them, with the pace of walcott, the flair of nasri, cesc to deleiver slick through balls, and for ade to put them to the sword.

  375. tomstoned says:

    and Taig maybe a few beers mate ..:)

  376. Franchise says:

    Geoff is making analogies using historic battles im making mine using na na na na na kids at primary school. im such a dullist or is it dullard :?

  377. Faceman says:

    Thanks for the kind words guys. Much appreciated, i will continue to blog.

    Is that Ok with you, Pedro?

  378. Adebayor.....papa says:

    morning boys

  379. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Wardo – Thats kind of a different argument….its just based on this year. You think if Ferguson had the same levels of injuries as we did this year, he wouldn’t keep Utd in the top 4? I think he would have, no doubt.

  380. Mandanda says:

    the 2 behind Ade being Nasri and Theo, with Cesc playing behind them, similar to what Xaxi does for Barca when playing in-front of two holding players!
    Nasri and Theo would have to replicate the Iniesta and Messi roles, small task indeed!

  381. Adebayor.....papa says:

    i have a stupid meeting after the first half….but will be following on twitter

    keep me posted

  382. Paulinho says:

    A, Fabregas has the ability to play the ball forward when he gets pressurised in front of our defence. He can spot a runner and release them for a counter.

    Denilson just puts our defenders under pressure when he gets pressed. He doesn’t have the vision to use their pressing against them and start a counter. He does what the opposition want him to do by passing to the nearest team mate, who is then pressurised even more by the oppostion.

    So Denilson keeps the ball, but not every intelligently.

    Yep, we’ll see tonight what Wenger does.

  383. Adebayor.....papa says:

    Mandanda

    if it was Nasri and Arshavin, the formation would have worked

    Theo is still a headless chiken, a lil bit

  384. Duke says:

    Faceman, the comment “Is that Ok with you, Pedro?” once again sounds like you trying something there. Just blog and don’t get carried away mate. All is well.

  385. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Faceman – I have steered clear of this debate….nothing to do with me. But I would suggest its comments like “Is that ok with you, Pedro?” that are being taken as snide in a double edged sword kind of way……

  386. Faceman says:

    A very good analysis Paulinho. Denilson can still develop that side of his game, but i agree, he does not have it yet.

  387. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Duke – I love it when we think alike! I reckon we are the true ‘brains’ of Le Grove!

  388. Pedro says:

    What Duke said Faceman.

  389. Faceman says:

    what the heck is going on here?????????/

    tony, its pedros site, which is why i asked if its ok?

  390. Duke says:

    taig, i think so 2, how many times did our posts overlap like that? :P

  391. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Faceman – not having a pop, just indicating how I think it would be taken……

  392. Franchise says:

    Paulinho i think its quite a tidy formation with Cesc in da hole. Denilsong win the ball and give it to Cesc, Nasri, Theo mostly Cesc who then has an unlimited ability to give the ball to any of the 3 ahead of him.

  393. Faceman says:

    ok mate, i was just confirming it was ok with the site owner, not trying to cause any grief at all.

  394. tomstoned says:

    i would like to see Bendtner up front tonite..spanish sides are more playing teams ,so it would mean that Bendtner would get that extra second he needs, but dont get in premier league,to get the finishing ..right…i think he would create havoc and get a couple of goals..

    :) but heey ill guess i have to be contend with Ade in smashing form…:) could have been worse i guess…

    tom.

  395. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Duke – They all know it too! All your Franchise’s DDM’s, Keyser’s, Kelsey’s QoS’s, Irish’s Pedro’s, Geoff’s of this place all know who the daddies are! :-)

    See how low Pedro and Geoff come…… :-)

  396. Franchise says:

    Faceman let me give u the kind of acceptable pops u can make to a fellow blogger on Le-Grove from experience. Pedro Im I allowed to give an example 8-)

  397. benno says:

    This is where i wish i lived on the east coast of Aus, like Gnarley, Evo and Jay, they get the 4:30 kick off, perfect timeing for an early night then straight out to work after the games finished, over west its the do i stay up till 2:30 then go to bed at 4:30 and be fucked for work, or go to bed early, get up at 2:30 and still be fucked for work :( Cant miss the game though :D

    2-1 to the mighty reds :D i think the yellow submarine may develop a sinking feeling :D

  398. kevin says:

    I agree with what you said about denilson. He is to reluctant to pass to the nearest team mate. BUt when you have nasri, who imo is the best dribbler in the country(the guy can retain the ball if 5 players where chasing him he is that good) and cesc the best passer on the planet, who could blame him.

  399. Duke says:

    taig hahahah classic.
    Fran a question like “Pedro Im I allowed to give an example 8-)” should get you yellow carded :D

  400. Mandanda says:

    Ade p,

    I know Theo is still learning the game and he does seem to be a one trick pony when not on his game (I mentioned this a few weeks back). Problem is, with Arshavin cup-tied and injuries to players, we don’t have many options. I would prefer we went 4-5-1

  401. Duke says:

    kev, i think Arsh is a better dribbler than Nasri, and last season so was Hleb. When by dribbling you mean that style on tight spots and not dirrect running dribbling ala Messi, Greasy fucker.

  402. Faceman says:

    Diaby would have been a real key player tonight. Big miss.

  403. tomstoned says:

    Denilson is fast becoming one of the worlds best midfielders..he’ll raise to any occasion…

    tom.

  404. Wardo says:

    not sure TAIG……Rooney, Vidic and Rio were out on Sunday and, altho they won, I really thought Aston Villa were the much better team…….they should have won. Utd were lucky.

    Its just my opinion but, Wenger is a top coach. If the funds have always been available, then yes he should have spent more…..but I honestly think we have been prudent and not spent money we dont have………Arsene has done a great job imo tho.

    Also, when Rio was suspended for 9 months, we won the title. Didn;t really see Fergi bring through youth and play a system that defended his title…..

  405. kevin says:

    Duke fair point about arshavin.

  406. Clacko the gooner says:

    Tom, sorry i can’t get over the way you sign your name at the bottom of your posts. Makes me chuckle everytime, class mate haha!!

  407. Duke says:

    You like that clacko?

    Duke.

  408. Pedro says:

    of course franchise!

  409. Clacko the gooner says:

    Duke – yeah i do, just makes me laugh.

    Clacko.

  410. Paulinho says:

    I don’t think either Arshavin or Nasri are a patch on Hleb in terms of dribbling.

    Both of them so far can be made to pass sideways a bit too easily for my liking.

    Nasri’s off the ball movment in terms of getting into position for a strike at goal has been the most impressive facet of his game.

    That little run and shot against Newcastle was class.

  411. Franchise says:

    tomstoned could denilson rise up against Vladimir Klitschko?

  412. Franchise says:

    he would get doner kebabed :D

    where are our mates from Limerick?

  413. Duke says:

    I think Nas will grow into a better dribbler, i think Arsh is so much better already, he is a bit more direct than Hleb, already has more assists, and you can never take the ball of him the same as of Hleb.

    Duke.

  414. nick says:

    haha franchise you cockroach!!!

  415. Duke says:

    Fran, as i mentioned before we should get Valuev as our center back :D

  416. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Wardo – Yeah I know what you are saying. But we didnt have to play too many games where both our CD’s were absent, if any. Most teams would struggle with that. I guess the Ferguson’s approach is a lot more direct than Wenger’s. If he had injury to a player the equivilent of Rosicky he would have signed someone else. Wenger knew Rosicky was a crock but did nothing.

    But I wont complain with where we now find ourselves. Its acceptable if nothing else. The only thing we have missed out on for sure (but you never know) is the premiership. If you are not first then apart from automatic entry to the CL, there really is no difference between 2nd and 4th apart from a bit of pride. Just 1 trophy, in my opinion, would be a good year for us and if that 1 trophy was the Cl then it would be a very good year!

  417. kevin says:

    Yh it’s true hleb was able to make quick incissive penetrative passes. However he was a pussy infront of goal. He never wanted to take responsibilty. But now we have 2 players ready to score goals.

  418. maqitlarge says:

    CUNTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Former Barcelona ace Gerard Lopez claims that Cesc Fabregas has asked him how it feels to return to Camp Nou.

    Gerard, whose career was ravaged by high-profile knee injuries, left Barca’s prestigious academy for Valencia at a young age, and then returned to Camp Nou.

    And the Girona midfielder has declared that Fabregas, who remains a reported transfer target for the Catalunyan giants, has contacted him in order to know about his personal experience.

    Gerard has added fuel to fire following rumours linking the European champion to the Blaugranas.

    “He asked me for advice and questioned me about the way I returned to Barca,” Gerard told Canal Catala.

    “I think that he will come back,” Gerard said when asked about Fabregas’ future.

    “As far as I am concerned, I snubbed better offers from other clubs in terms of money to return to Barca because my heart spoke.”

  419. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Duke – You think Arshavin ‘is a bit more direct than Hleb’…….well fuck me, you’re a bright spark aren’t you! :-)

  420. Franchise says:

    Duke we could partner Valuev and V.Klitschko or the Klitschko bros in the midfield and Cesc in front of them. For defending free kicks we would only need a 2 man wall. bring it on Juninho

  421. Franchise says:

    Just imagine any of those two jogging up field when we win a corner

  422. nick says:

    hleb was lightweight and had one good season and scored a hand full of goals,people seem to forget how frustrating he was to watch. spent most of the time running down blind Allys and having to beat the same player twice before he passed.Nasri is going to be far more useful then shaggy ever was IMO

  423. tonyadamsisgod says:

    If Cesc ‘wants’ to go then I say fucking well let him! But regardless of if he does or doesn’t this whole tapping up is becoming a joke!! Lets get some concrete evidence of it and send it to UEFA and fucking drop the spanish cunts right in the shit!

  424. Duke says:

    taig, i was thinking about it, i wasen’t sure, but then i got some inside info on it. They told me if i say Arshavin is more direct than Hleb, people will respect my opinion :D

  425. Franchise says:

    Imagine the refereeing consistency or partiality we would get from Howard Webb if Valuev were given the captain arm-band 8O by the way we would need specially made armbands cesc’s waistline would be a good estimate :D

  426. Pedro says:

    Geoff is on the road to El Madrigal and I think he just sent me a picture… WITH SNOW!

  427. maqitlarge says:

    Geoff is right. We shuold start tapping up their players. Thats the only way FIFA and WAFFA will put a stop to it (like they are with our kids policy)

  428. Duke says:

    Fran, i like it, let’s make a petition?

  429. Gunnersmith says:

    Good post geoff (bar song for Diaby) really fired up for tonight game

  430. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Duke – ha ha!

    The only problm with tapping up Barca’s players is that none of them would be too interested in speaking to us!

  431. Duke says:

    i agree taig, isn’t that why we go for their young prospects and take them for free?

  432. Wardo says:

    TAIG….Cesc was :lol:

    that’s why UEFA let them do it to us….and Real Madrid………I would seriously ask them bout selling Messi. When they say they are not a selling club I would say, same as us now fcuk off…..

  433. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Duke – yeah I heard something like that but surely Arsenal and Arsene Wenger would never stoop so low as to poach a youth team player! In reality, though, id Barca didn’t want us to take him then those cunts should have paid us our money owed for Overmars and they would still have Cesc!

  434. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Wardo – Fair!

  435. Gunnersmith says:

    And sorry for yesterday row but i don’t need help (as you claim) for having my own view hi pedro hope i’m not trespassing because GGKB general geoff knows best! Lol

  436. Duke says:

    taig, I think Wenger tried to get free youth players and players running out of their contracts alot of times. Cesc, Flamini, I think he tried to snap up the 2 ManUre Brazilian kids up for free instead of ManUre paying.

  437. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Oh and just for the record…..Jack Bauer just got voted the hardest man on TV! And before anyone say’s thats nothing because he’s not in films then just wait 2 years and we’ll have this discussion again!

  438. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Duke – fair game I think. If they are available to talk, ie not in contract then its all gravy! But you know Wenger is a sneaky mo fo when he needs to be!

  439. Franchise says:

    taig i bet he got 100% of the votes who would dare vote against Jack Bauer huh?

  440. Duke says:

    GOOOOOOOOOO JACK

  441. Franchise says:

    If u are from Limerick make a comment, Stu any word on Rolfes? or Dzeko? Irish any word on er er Cats?

  442. tonyadamsisgod says:

    We need to get right in Villarreal’s faces tonight! They have 4 players on a yellow and one of those is Senna! We could do with pissing him off! We have none so it gives us some breathing space although we obviously dont need any suspensions in the semi’s!

  443. reggie57 says:

    Jacks a pussy

  444. Franchise says:

    RIP Reggie57. u wld be sorely missed

  445. tonyadamsisgod says:

    reggie – careful…..he already knows where you live!

  446. Franchise says:

    :cry:

  447. reggie57 says:

    He drinks from saucer

  448. Franchise says:

    Reggie loved his football sob sob reggie loved his arsenal sob sob

  449. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Anyone watch 24 last night? So let me get this right…..The Government can’t do anything…..the FBI can’t do anything…..the Army can’t do anything……so that really leaves only one choice now doesn’t it! Send in Jack!!

  450. Duke says:

    bye reggie

  451. Pedro says:

    Yellow card Gunnersmith… make sure your next comment is in agreement with God… sorry… I mean Geoff.

  452. reggie57 says:

    I mean he laps from a saucer!

  453. kelsey says:

    Hello,
    for those with time on their hands,try this.I bet Pedro will know all 5.

    1. A murderer is condemned to death. He has to choose between three rooms. The first is full of raging fires. The second is full of assassins with loaded guns. The third is full of lions that haven’t eaten in 3 years. Which room is safest for him?

    2. A woman shoots her husband. Then she holds him under water for over 5 minutes. Finally, she hangs him. But 5 minutes later they both go out together and enjoy a wonderful dinner together. How can this be?

    3. What is black when you buy it, red when you use it, and gray when you throw it away?

    4. Can you name three consecutive days without using the words Wednesday, Friday, or Sunday?

    5. This is an unusual paragraph. I’m curious as to just how quickly you can find out what is so unusual about it. It looks so ordinary and plain that you would think nothing was wrong with it. In fact, nothing is wrong with it! It is highly unusual though. Study it and think about it, but you still may not find anything odd. But if you work at it a bit, you might find out. Try to do so without any coaching!

    THE ANSWERS TO ALL FIVE THE RIDDLES ARE :)

  454. Franchise says:

    I missed it Taig i need to get that sky+ shit. i’m not sure Jack would be happy to be trapped in some box. The box wont last thats for sure. there’s probably somewhere in small print in the terms and conditions saying ‘dont record 24, ur warranty is void if ur box is destroyed as a result of attempting to box Jack Bauer’

  455. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Reggie – dont answer that door! He says he’s a gas metre reader but you know its Jack really!

  456. Clacko the gooner says:

    Reggie, i honestly think he was just going to kill you now it will more likely than not be torture until you admit you live him, then he will kill you haha.

  457. Clacko the gooner says:

    *love

  458. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Franchise – that needs to become a Jack Bauer fact!

  459. Franchise says:

    we need it well put together taig. ill leave that one for u.

  460. reggie57 says:

    Not worried, i have got my 8 stone x pitstaff x
    rott x bullmastiff to protect me so i can say
    anything i want?so there!

  461. Duke says:

    Just got mailed this little treat:

    It has been announced that British Summer Time will from now on be phased in. Instead of adding an whole hour in one go, five minutes will be added to Man Utd games where they need a late goal.

  462. Franchise says:

    Jack we know u jave done reggie stop trying to impersonate him. could u kindly set free the k9′s please? :? sorry u can do whatever u wish my bad 8O

  463. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Reggie – he sounds like a right lump but ultimately Jack’s gonna get ya! I dont think my mutt would even try to attempt to protect me when faced with Jack Bauer and he’s fearless (although I’m starting to wonder if its stupidity)!

  464. Franchise says:

    * have not jave u can sense i wos nearvuss whail taiping t h at

  465. Gunnersmith says:

    Pedro as your lordship pleases

  466. tonyadamsisgod says:

    A good read…..

    Ah, Tit Monday. It’s not that far off now…

    That glorious day when, heading into work on the bus, or walking to the tube, or sitting on the train, you find yourself suddenly chirpier than you have been in months. You find yourself smiling at strangers again. There is a mild involuntary tumescence in your trousers that comes and goes throughout the morning with the comforting regularity of a heartbeat.

    And then you get a text around lunchtime from a mate which says: “At last, Tit Monday!” And you instantly understand why you are so happy. For Tit Monday is that special day in the year when, for the first time, the temperature rises above that magical point which causes girls getting dressed in the morning to decide to show a bit of skin.

    After months of dull colours and chunky knit, the world’s birds suddenly dive into last summer’s wardrobe (they’ve not had chance to buy this season’s stuff) and chuck it on without a thought. Your urban landscape is suddenly lightened with acres of naked arm and leg and, after many dark months of burrowing, breasts rising to the surface like moles at dusk.

    Big breasts in white work shirts straining at the buttons. Small breasts braless in vest tops, the nipples frotted by ribby fabrics. Breasts in summer dresses bouncing in the distance so that they catch your eye before you even notice there is someone wearing them. Breasts nudging out from the crowd at traffic islands, quivering to cross the road…

    And you know it is nearly summer. For previous generations, the arrival of spring was heralded by the sound of the first cuckoo. For us, it is Tit Monday.

    Not that it always falls on a Monday. Like Easter, Tit Monday is a moveable feast. Last year it fell on a Friday. Friday 29 April, to be precise, when temperatures maxed out at 22.1C after nothing much above 16C all year. It last fell on a Monday in 2004, when temperatures leapt to 22C on 24 April.

    And then, of course, there is Tit Monday Night. You see, in early summer, temperatures drop off very dramatically when night falls (Tit Friday 2005 dropped away to a parky 11.8C). But the dollies are not prepared. Slightly stunned by the morning heat, they drag out the summer clothes but forget to bring a cardie (a mistake they will not make again until next year), so that when they’re all standing outside All Bar One after work celebrating the arrival of spring, their barely covered nipples have no protection from the cold. It’s like a Bring-and-Buy sale where everyone has brought hat pegs. It’s like a prog-rock gig where, instead of lighters, everyone is holding up nipples.

    So when will Tit Monday fall this year? Will you be the first to text your mates with the announcement? Do not shoot your bolt too early. There will be false starts. You will smell fresh cut grass and see a couple of early starters and feel compelled to declare Tit Monday. But your more level-headed friends will tell you to hold your horses, keep your powder dry, don’t fire until you see the whites of their bra straps.

    As the poet said: one bold Northern slapper in a bikini doth not a summer make.

  467. charybdis1966 says:

    Did anyone see the greasy winker sitting next to ole +65% proof nose yesterday? It looked like he was Lord Charles and Fungusscum was the ventriloquist when the greaseball said “I think this is the club for me”.
    What a stage managed load of stinky cack. The only time the stupid old soak talks to the press is when he wants to give it the large one, the cnut.

  468. gazzap says:

    The team and player ratings after the last game in Villareal. I dont think the attack did particularly well but defensively we were sound.

    1 Lehmann 8
    28 Toure 7
    27 Eboue 7
    23 Campbell 7
    19 Silva 8
    13 Hleb 6
    8 Ljungberg 7
    16 Flamini (Clichy 9)
    15 Fabregas 6
    9 Reyes (Pires 68) 6
    14 Henry 6

    It was 0-0, and I expect an equally low scoring game this time round.

  469. Clacko the gooner says:

    TAIG, that brought a tear to my eye! i have waited too long for Summer.

  470. Gunnersmith says:

    Hey guys stop the laugh about jack bauer i hear from a reliable source he’s around the grove he’s gonna nab you

  471. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Clacko – I cant wait to see that pair of boobs waiting to cross the road! I shall be stopping to give way to them for sure!

  472. Clacko the gooner says:

    Oh yes my friend, i will not deny them the opportunity to cross in front of my car!

  473. Gunnersmith says:

    The source also said he’s walking around with a super x self corking self rotating enemy detector machine gun made once in a lifetime

  474. Duke says:

    “Manchester City forward Robinho will face no charges following allegations against him of a serious sexual assault, police have said. ”

    No surprise, he hasn’t scored since December.

  475. Wardo says:

    Dont get it Kelsey……

    3 is a newspaper surely.

  476. reggie57 says:

    Being a hgv driver you get a perfect view
    up close and personal haha

  477. Gunnersmith says:

    Sorry pedro fact is i’m posting on two different OS with two different email

  478. charybdis1966 says:

    If we’re talking boobs does anyone have any thoughts on whether they would be opposed to implants (I mean on their g/f’s obviously)?
    For starters I don’t have a problem with them as long as they are not of the porn star size variety .

  479. Franchise says:

    kelsey

    1. no 3. Lions would be dead. no food for 3 years

    2. the woman is a photographer

    3. Coal

    4. Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow

    5. letter ‘e’ does not appear once in that statement which is very starnge

  480. reggie57 says:

    Franhise
    you are smarter than the average bear!!

  481. reggie57 says:

    missed a c there

  482. benno says:

    Kelsey, number 4 would surely be yesterday, today and tomorrow

  483. Franchise says:

    thanks reggie sorry thanks jack.

  484. Duke says:

    benno, i think Fran got them all already

  485. Gunnersmith says:

    Its silent in here

  486. Wardo says:

    well done Franchise !!

  487. Steve says:

    I’ve been doing red wine, it’s a fucking omen.

    Come on you reds.

  488. Gunnersmith says:

    Ever wonder why Arsene never use his goggles any more?

  489. PDT says:

    Geoff, if you are around, I had a history book in school with an illustration of Wolf and his troops scaling the cliffs of Quebec! This post really brought back memories.

    Wouldn’t be surprised if you had the same history book!

  490. Duke says:

    I will be off, good luck to us all today!

  491. Franchise says:

    Steve ive been drinking Mago Lassi hope its not a fucking omen

  492. reggie57 says:

    See you duke

  493. Faceman says:

    I don’t like this whole business of the Villareal players buying fans tickets for tonights game, as unemployment is running at 15% in the region.

    Could give them a real spirit ans embue the fans with much vitriol and vociferous support.

    Tonight will be a tough fucking game, manure got jack shit over 180 minutes against the same team, although missing cazorla is massive.

    A draw will do me.

  494. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Laters Dukey boy!

  495. Franchise says:

    * Mango Lassi

  496. Franchise says:

    see ya Duke

  497. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Faceman – that whole ‘players buying the fans tickets’ thing extends further. Anyone who had a season ticket this year but now finds themselves redundant or on the dole will get their season ticket for free next year! I kow its not relevant to us but interesting none the less!

  498. Faceman says:

    it’s a massive boost to the fans, they will support the team like no tommorow.

    they have fuck all else in their lives apart from villareal.

    i know the capacity will be small but the support they gain will be immense.

    can’t see us losing but 0-0 would not be good either.

    you always need the security of at least one away goal when playing the 2nd leg at home imo.

  499. reggie57 says:

    It doesnt matter who buys the tickets we are gonna
    wipe the floor with em, 4-1 ade=4

  500. Franchise says:

    i concur Jack

  501. Clacko the gooner says:

    Faceman i agree there. I think if you get a 0-0 away and they get a goal it could be lights out. i think we will score though. i am going for a 1-0 or 2-1 to us.

  502. Faceman says:

    i hope so reggie, but considering they held out a booming utd team over 180 minutes i doubt we will stick 4 past em tonight, epsecially without arshavin.

    1-0 would be great, 2-0 spot on.

  503. Clacko the gooner says:

    Reggie, i kinda hope Ade doesn’t get 4. My mate has him in his dream team and if he does get 4 then he will go top relegating me to second. Suppose gotta take the highs with the lows though haha.

  504. Steve says:

    Who gives a fuck??

    It’s a poxy little shithole with a shit support. Look at the fucking teams, the support is immaterial.

  505. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Its a given that we need at least 1 goal tonight! Personally I think we can get 2 and keep a clean sheet! I fancy Nasri to bag a goal tonight!

  506. reggie57 says:

    If the players go out and play with the
    right mental attitude we are will murder em
    no question about it
    As wenger said the handbrake is off, full speed ahead

  507. Faceman says:

    Steve – i disagree, why do so many big teams get humbled in the early rounds of the FA Cup away from home at shitholes like Wrexam and Yeovil etc ????

  508. Clacko the gooner says:

    Faceman i think that’s more to do with the big teams taking the little ones too lightly and the players from the smaller teams really playing up to the occasion knowing there is no pressre on them becuase they have nothing to lose.

  509. Steve says:

    Because they aren’t up for it Faceman. This is a C.L Q.F.

    To compare a team in the C.L quarters against a couple of shit teams in or about Nannygoat country is quite frankly embarrassing.

  510. Clacko the gooner says:

    This however is different. Both teams are fighting in out to be in the semi’s of the CL. Both teams have also been there before and both teams have players of real quality. Tonight i expect will be more about tactics than anything else!!

  511. Steve says:

    Ahhh Clacko, some of us do have brains.

  512. Faceman says:

    Nannygoat country? Is that a reference to Spain?

  513. reggie57 says:

    Clacko
    Dead right there mate its all about attitude,
    you are either up for it or not.

  514. Faceman says:

    PMSL :lol: Steve

    the irony

  515. Franchise says:

    Steve to a large extent support is crucial. Our youngish team crumbled at Anfield last season largely because of the intimidating atmosphere. on a different occassion we silenced the crowd at Hell (Fenerbache) and also at the San Siro. You are both right. Im never wrong ask Pedro ;)

  516. Clacko the gooner says:

    by Nannygoat country i think he meant Wales haha!!

  517. reggie57 says:

    Yogi is always right haha

  518. Faceman says:

    Anfield seems to help Liverpool in the champs league.

    only the real foolhardy would believe support is not a big factor.

  519. Clacko the gooner says:

    Franchise i bow to your wisdom!!

    I am off guys. Enjoy the evening, i know i will. I ent driving to the pub :-D

  520. Franchise says:

    Why do most great teams have a better home record than an away record? its because they feel more comfortable at home due to several factors including fan support.

  521. Franchise says:

    i would believe that all teams in the world overall have a better home record than an away one.

  522. Franchise says:

    later clacko

    hat trick!!!

  523. reggie57 says:

    was that a hat trick or a jack trick

  524. kelsey says:

    Franchise,
    you have been cheating,wait until I tell peaches ;)

  525. Steve says:

    Yeah mate, Spain is known for it’s goats.

    Did you not mention Wrexham and Yeovil???????

    Do you have maps on your planet?

  526. Steve says:

    kelsey, forgive me father for I have sinned.

    I won’t mention Welsh or goats again.

    You have come in at the wrong time mate :)

  527. Stu says:

    It appears that Adriano of inter milan has gone missing.

  528. Stu says:

    Some say its because of drugs and others say kidnapping. Both have been dispelled tho…….

  529. reggie57 says:

    Stu
    Would you want to play for mourihno

  530. Stu says:

    I suppose not Reggie…….

  531. Stu says:

    What a disgrace the dutch league is…especially the fans.
    Roda JC v Ajax…ajax were winning 2-1 in injury time and the roda fans started throwing their seats..yes their seats at the Ajax keeper. The seats were reaching him but the ref did fuck all and neither did any stadium staff or anyone else. What a disgrace that is.

  532. kelsey says:

    Steve,
    actually it is a shithole, and difficult to get to. :)

  533. gazzap says:

    fuck I am beginning to get nervous now. first I was thinking 3-0, then 2-0, then 1-0, now I am just praying we can keep a clean sheet! bloody hell I have got nerve problems. glad I dont have to play.

  534. kelsey says:

    and harder to get out :)

  535. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Stu – The Eredivisie has always been fucking brutal! I’ve been to a few games in Holland, mostly Ajax as my uncle is a season ticket holder and lives within walking distance of the stadium. He gave his tickets up at one point becuase of the amount of violence going on. He decided he didnt want to take his kids to see that sort of behaviour going on anymore. Now they have grown up I think he goes every now and then. I remember being in Ajax’s old stadium that had barbed wire and spinning spikes on top of the fence surrounding the pitch! Mental!

  536. Steve says:

    kelsey, they actually charge you to get in, what’s that all about????

    I have to say though having been to Cardiff more time than Charlotte Church that it was brilliant.

  537. kelsey says:

    Does this apply to anyone.

    Proof That The World Is Nuts

    In Lebanon, men are legally allowed to have sex with animals, but the animals must be female. Having sexual relations with a male animal is punishable by death..

    (Like THAT makes sense.)
    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

    In Bahrain, a male doctor may legally examine a woman’s genitals, but is prohibited from looking directly at them during the examination. He may only see their reflection in a mirror.

    (Do they look different reversed?)
    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

    Muslims are banned from looking at the genitals of a corpse. This also applies to undertakers. The sex organs of the deceased must be covered with a brick or piece of wood at all times.

    (A brick?)

    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*

    The penalty for masturbation in Indonesia is decapitation.

    (Much worse than ‘going blind!’)
    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

    There are men in Guam whose full-time job is to travel the countryside and deflower young virgins, who pay them for the privilege of having sex for the first time
    Reason: Under Guam law, it is expressly forbidden for virgins to marry.

    (Let’s just think for a minute; is there any job anywhere else in the world that even comes close to this?)
    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

    In Hong Kong, a betrayed wife is legally allowed to kill her adulterous husband, but may only do so with her bare hands.
    The husband’s illicit lover, on the other hand, may be killed in any manner desired.

    (Ah! Justice!)
    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

    Topless saleswomen are legal in Liverpool, England – but only in tropical fish stores.

    (But of course!)
    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

    Cali, Colombia, a woman may only have sex with her husband, and the first time this happens, her mother must be in the room to witness the act

    (Makes one shudder at the thought.)
    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

    In Santa Cruz, Bolivia, it is illegal for a man to have sex with a woman and her daughter at the same time.

    (I presume this was a big enough problem that they had to pass this law?)
    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

    In Maryland, it is illegal to sell condoms from vending machines with one exception: Prophylactics may be dispensed from a vending machine only ‘in places where alcoholic beverages are sold for consumption on the premises.’

    (Is this a great country or what?)

    (Well, not as great as Guam!)
    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

    Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour.

    (Who volunteers for these tests?)
    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

    The ant can lift 50 times its own weight, can pull 30 times its own weight and always falls over on its right side when intoxicated.

    (From drinking little bottles of?)

    (Did our government pay for this research??)
    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

    Butterflies taste with their feet.

    (Ah, geez.)
    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

    An ostrich’s eye is bigger than its brain.

    (I know some people like that.)
    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

    Starfish don’t have brains.

    (I know some people like that, too..)
    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

    And, the best for last?

    Turtles can breathe through their butts.

    (And I thought I had bad breath in the morning !)

    Thank you all for reading this, if you need to reach me in the future I will be in Guam!

  538. kelsey says:

    Steve,
    Cardiff has come along way from the days of Shirley(3 in a bed) Bassey and Tiger Bay.My daughter is at uni there and it is a thriving city,but the football supporters are animals.

  539. Faceman says:

    Cardiff is a fantastic place, some of the women you see out and about in the nicer parts, are phenomenal.

  540. Steve says:

    Kelsey, I stayed down there for all cup finals, semi-finals, community shields and never had a problem. Great place. Glad it has moved back to Wembley now though as i’m sure the missus thought I had a mistress.

    I always stayed in Caerphilly.

    Anyway off now to start the red wine fest. Have a good evening.

  541. irishgunner says:

    Evening all – we feeling confident??

  542. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Think everyone has gone Irish!

  543. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Apart from me of course!

  544. irishgunner says:

    ha ha how are you TAIG??? Feeling confident, I think we can get a positive result :)

  545. irishgunner says:

    Just off tangent but I’m glad I don’t smoke, the Irish government has just put the price of a pack up by 25% which means they’ll cost about €10 a pack

  546. Pedro says:

    http://tinurl.us/005775

    Spot on Mr Parkinson!

  547. kenny smith says:

    hi folks… just popped on to say hello… still at work and cant wait for tonights game! ive been looking forward to it the whole day!

  548. choy says:

    i’m excited… too bad have to follow it via text updates…

  549. irishgunner says:

    I hate text updates … so hard to get a grasp of the game

  550. alex says:

    from what i can see from their team. They have an absolute lethal attack. any news on injuries or suspensions besides the injury to corzola? Nihat, Pires, Llorente, and Matias Fernandez well make us need to defend well and be swift with it.

  551. fab4 says:

    2 more hours….think we can pull an away win tonite? who else felt all warm and fuzzy on sat now that fab is back.

  552. alex says:

    and Rossi*****

  553. kenny smith says:

    im finishing at 6 grabbing a shower then getting my driving instructor to pick me up from work, give me a lesson and then drop me off home… shud be home in time for kick off!! :)

  554. irishgunner says:

    Carzola is a big loss and Ibagaza is out through suspension.

    Forget they had Llorente, saw him playing for Spain against England but he wasn’t on for long.

  555. irishgunner says:

    hope your home for kick off Kenny :D

    I’m getting all ready now – have the cider chilling in the fridge

  556. alex says:

    yeah Llorente is their leading scorer but I dont rate him as much as Rossi and Nihat(even though he hasn’t been producing this season). We will need to close them down immediatly because they both are more playmakers then people who finish the plays off. Won’t see them scoring from crosses into the box and such. They (especially Rossi) are more of a Bergkamp player compared to a lethal fox-in-the-box finisher like Eduardo.

  557. irishgunner says:

    What formation will they play?

  558. kenny smith says:

    i think i should be irish although wont know the team til kick off!!! i should maybe give someone my number and ask them to txt me the team and formation lol.

    Irish i dont drink during fottie games unless im in the pub… it only makes my nerves worse…. what kind of cider you drink?…. im a magners amn… or a strongbow if magners aint availible

  559. alex says:

    With those attacking options i wouldnt be surprised if they play Nihat and Llorente upfront and Rossi right behind being the shadow striker if not a striker himself.

  560. kenny smith says:

    im off…. hope we win! :)

  561. irishgunner says:

    yep Magners Kenny – enjoy the game, hope we all enjoy it ha ha

  562. irishgunner says:

    so a kind of 4-3-3?? Pires plays more central for them now too doesn’t he?

  563. tomstoned says:

    Evenin All

    its such a great spring…villareal is no better than a fairly decent team,but they are hard working and always plays until the game is over….so if Our Beloved Arsenal plays theyre best villareal wont be able to handle it…we outclass them in talent and playing style…so it will come down to if Our Players want it bad enough..i have a great feeling…

    cider Irish ( huh) well at least its bubbly…hehehe

    tom.

  564. kelsey says:

    It’s all gone very quiet on the spitting incident,how long does it take the FA to work that one out ?

  565. tomstoned says:

    kelsey.

    it was never a case….so now they do as they always do …hush it down..and then give a statement when its all blown over…

    tom

  566. irishgunner says:

    ha ha Tom cider during the game, champers when we win :D

  567. irishgunner says:

    Kelsey – they’ll bring it out the day before a big game like Liverpool or something, anything to piss us off

  568. tomstoned says:

    and Kelsey mate what actually upset me a little concerning the whole spitting affair was…it seems like Cesc was robbed of the first rule in human kind…innocent until proven guilty ..im never mad but well ….the media should have got some stick for how they treated the whole deal…

    tom

  569. tomstoned says:

    heheh Irish ok then saved by the bell i guess.:)

    tom

  570. kelsey says:

    hopefully when they get relegated,as they are in free fall,but unfortunately so are all the north east teams and WBA are gone.

  571. SFOGunner says:

    Great Post Geoff.
    Unfortunate Cesc needs to give up his life for us to win the champions league!

  572. tomstoned says:

    yeah Kelsey

    im most upset by wba almost certainly beeing relegated..that team actually tries to play the game..i personally think they where always in for a hard time pushing the ball to much through Koren(decent player)but not good enough to carry them …unfortunately..no i rather se Stoke Hull down than wba…

    tom

  573. tomstoned says:

    well off..

    and Irish get the glasses out You’ll be needing them champers wil flow after Our Beloved Arsenal have given villareal a lesson in playing….so no need to be worried …you should be more worried about all that champers Irish

    i would wish ya all a great evening if i thought you needed it,but no wishing needed tonite…just celebration..:)

    tom

    laters all..

  574. E-man says:

    Good post. Tried the automatic translation tool and the post becomes absolutely hilarious! Don’t know if it’s such a good thing to include that tool – makes it a bit of a silly reading (which this blog is anything but).
    Come on Gunners!

  575. irishgunner says:

    ha ha enjoy the game Tom, champers ready :)

  576. Rizzy says:

    ALMUNIA
    CLICHY
    GALLAS
    TOURE
    SAGNA
    SONG/Diaby (if fit)
    DENILSON
    FABREGAS
    NASRI
    WALCOTT
    ADEBAYOR
    .
    Score
    3-0 to the good guys

    CNT WAIT! Tonight we show the Europe the form we are currently in

  577. Rizzy says:

    Tom

    Teams that come up and stay up and do well are the teams who play route one shit but brutish effective football – Stoke, Hull.

    WBA were the arsenal of the lower league, great football. The attempted to take that game to the big boys and it failed, it always was going to.

  578. Rizzy says:

    In addition to the shitness in which they play football, they have match winners. (Geovanni, Beattie).. Cant name one outstanding WBA player.. bar Jay Simpson.

  579. irishgunner says:

    Kevin Phillips was a loss to them, he nicked them goals but decided the championship is his level now.

  580. michael 'master' P says:

    I’ve got a good feeling about tonights game and a 2 or 3 nil win is on the cards for the Gunners! Come On!!

    Iiiiiiiiirish!!

  581. irishgunner says:

    MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPPPPP How you doin’? ;)

  582. irishgunner says:

    Just over an hour to go ….

  583. kelsey says:

    Rizzy,
    you are right but do you enjoy watching Stoke play.They got lucky last year,and offer very little entertainment value.

  584. Stu says:

    Evening all…..What time are the teams announced?

  585. Stu says:

    The pricks on revista de la liga are showing clips of Cesc hinting that they all want him there. Will they ever just fuck off, they even have the fucking english based media trying to unsettle him. FFS!!

  586. irishgunner says:

    probably about half an hour stu

  587. irishgunner says:

    is revista la liga not a Sky show?

  588. Stu says:

    Yes they are Irish. But since when does that mean anything…cunts.

  589. irishgunner says:

    means Sky News run with the Cesc story so Sky programmes run with it too

  590. kevin says:

    Just seen the teams. It’s 4-5-1. Usual back 4. Then nasri and walcott on the wings, Denilsong in the middle, and cesc free to do his thing. Oh and ade upfront.

  591. kevin says:

    Just seen the teams. It’s 4-5-1. Usual back 4. Then nasri and walcott on the wings, Denilsong in the middle, and cesc free to do his thing. Oh and ade upfront.

  592. Pedro says:

    I’m chubbing up at the thought of winning tonight!

    COME ON YOU REDS!

  593. Stu says:

    Kevin, where did you see them. They usually dont come out so early…or even on time.

  594. irishgunner says:

    he’s starting Walcott???

    Wenger has surprised me – good man :D

  595. kevin says:

    Stu ITV 4.

  596. choy says:

    same team as sat… with nasri coming in for arshavin..

    UEFA.com

  597. kirby says:

    come on you gunners!!

  598. kevin says:

    Irish, yh it shows wenger is starting to beleive in him.

    Hopefully we steam roll villareal early, like when we beat fenebache.

  599. Stu says:

    Loving that team so. Couldnt have picked a better one really.

  600. RayGooner says:

    Don’t want to alarm anyone but this game will not be an easy one…

    Arsenal (with Wenger) hasn’t done so great over the years in Spain.

    Our results against spanish teams (away games only):
    Barcelona 1-1
    Deportivo 1-2
    Valencia 0-1
    Mallorca 0-1
    Deportivo 0-2
    Valencia 1-2
    Celta Vigo 3-2
    Real Madrid 1-0
    Villarreal 0-0
    Sevilla 1-3

    10 games
    2 wins
    2 draws
    6 defeats
    Goals scored: 8
    Goals conceeded: 14

    But if we look at the home record it looks much better:
    Barcelona 2-4
    Deportivo 5-1
    Valencia 2-1
    Mallorca 3-1
    Deportivo 0-2
    Valencia 0-0
    Celta Vigo 2-0
    Real Madrid 0-0
    Villarreal 1-0
    Sevilla 3-0

    10 games
    6 wins
    2 draws
    2 defeats
    Goals scored: 18
    Goals conceeded: 9

    And if we take the Champions League Final of 2006 (1-2 against Barcelona) in to this calculation we get a total stat of Arsenal vs. Spain:

    21 Games
    8 Wins
    4 Draws
    9 Defeats
    Goals Scored: 27
    Goals Conceeded: 25

    In other words….It will be Tight!

  601. irishgunner says:

    Delighted with that team Kevin, I really am.

    I thought he’d play Eboue but with Walcott must be attacking from the off and thats us at our best

  602. A says:

    team exactly as expected. i would’ve liked to have seen bendtner in there somewhere but oh well! just gotta nab early goal

  603. irishgunner says:

    I thought Ibagaza was out for Villareal with suspension??? well he’s playing

  604. kirby says:

    stu its that giullem ballague he talks shit all the time about players from the epl joing barcelona and real madrid because he believes they would not ever turn them down!!

    i might have spelt his name wrong!

  605. Pedro says:

    What’s the team?

  606. Stu says:

    I think we will be more counter attacking, especially with Walcotts pace.

  607. irishgunner says:

    Almunia, Sagna, Clichy, Gallas, Toure, Denilson, Song, Fabregas, Walcott, Nasri, Adebayor.

  608. Paulinho says:

    Disappointed with the line up. I think we will put in a dreadful performance with that roster.

  609. irishgunner says:

    Villarreal: Lopez, Rodriguez, Godin, Capdevilla, Eguren, Cani, Ibagaza, Llorente, Angel, Senna, Rossi.

  610. RayGooner says:

    Crusual to score at least one goal today, cause we haven’t conceeded a goal in our last 5 home-games against a spanish team. So if we score away we will go through (if they don’t score 5 or 6 that is)….

  611. Stu says:

    Kirby, his name doesnt matter. Dont worry about the spelling.

  612. Geoff says:

    I’ve got my Arsenal shirt on, I’m happy with the team except for you know who.

    Now I begin drinking.

  613. kevin says:

    Irish, i think wenger has relished there is not point of playing a WINGER, for defensive stability. However eboue will surely come on. Because late in games when teams are tired he usually comes and pierces opposistions defenses, if he could work on his final ball then he could help us in the champions league.

  614. Stu says:

    Eboue will definately come on because he ALWAYS comes on. There is rarely if ever a game that goes by that a fit eboue doesnt play. If he can walk he will come on.

  615. irishgunner says:

    Kevin – thinks that’s a very fair comment

    Geoff – think Diaby would be playing for you know who were he fit

  616. choy says:

    good team that… Cmon ARSENAL!!!

  617. kirby says:

    ok stu cheers!

  618. kevin says:

    Im mildly optimistic, but afraid aswell. I want this game to start.

  619. Adebayor.....papa says:

    teams :

    Villarreal: Diego Lopez, Angel, Godin, Rodriguez, Capdevila, Cani, Senna, Eguren, Ibagaza, Rossi, Llorente.
    Subs: Viera, Pires, Franco, Fernandez, Nihat, Javi Venta, Fuentes.

    Arsenal: Almunia, Sagna, Toure, Gallas, Clichy, Denilson, Song Billong, Fabregas, Walcott, Nasri, Adebayor.
    Subs: Fabianski, Vela, Silvestre, Djourou, Bendtner, Eboue, Gibbs.

    Referee: Tom Ovrebo (Norway)

  620. Adebayor.....papa says:

    No RVP or Diaby on bench

  621. Adebayor.....papa says:

    expect a crab effort with long balls

  622. Geoff says:

    Irish you’re right there, but it still irks me that he plays, I just hope he doesn’t screw up like he almost did twice against City that no one seems to have noticed.

  623. Magnus says:

    Evening all,

    As long as we have Theo and Fsn in there I’m confident
    we get get a good result. Come on you gunners !!!!

  624. Stu says:

    Bendtner and Eboue will come on. And either silvestre or Vela is there is a third sub.

  625. irishgunner says:

    Geoff – he’s feeding off your negative vibes, I’ll send him positive vibes ha ha :) Know what you mean though but hopefully he will play well tonight – the Villareal team is stronger that I thought it would be – bastards must have been lying about their problems

  626. Jay2oh says:

    Would have put Ramsey another sub instead of silvestre.

    Gibbs, eboue and DJ all on bench are predominantly defenders on the bench We have 4 from 7 subs who are defenders first and foremost.

  627. irishgunner says:

    Jay – sadly I think he sees Eboue more as a midfielder at the moment and one who gets forward at that

  628. Stu says:

    And Fanianski too Jay, bascially we have Vela and Bendtner as “attacking-threats” on the bench.

  629. patthegooner says:

    Been looking forward to this one.

    I will take any win or any high scoring draw to get the away goals up. I still think this could be tricky. I hope the lads dont get complacent with the opposition.

    No time for its only Pascal Cygan tonight.

    Come On Arsenal, lets put one foot into the Semi’s

  630. Stu says:

    Irish, there is no doubt about it anymore. Eboue is on arse.com as a midfielder, and surely they get their info on that from Wenger himself.

  631. Jay2oh says:

    Yeah the bench isnt looking to good in terms of attacking! I miss the Arsh!

  632. Pedro says:

    That’s a good team… I’m looking forward this!

  633. patthegooner says:

    Pires only made their bench!!!!!!!

  634. Adebayor.....papa says:

    eboue for walcott and bendtner for nasri

  635. Faceman says:

    This Arsenal side has so much balance, i love it… just cannot seeing us conceding goals unless a stupid mistake or penalty is given away.

    And with Denilson and Song backing up Faf, he can play his roaming Platini role and bang one in for us tonight.

    1-0 Arsenal (Fabregras 44)

  636. reggie57 says:

    we are gonna torpedo the yellow submarine
    just wait and see c’mon you gunners

  637. Jay2oh says:

    Ladbrokes – 25-1 Gallas first goalscorer – Couldnt resist it. A cheeky set piece maybe…12-1 Nasri – Put a few quid on that as well.

  638. irishgunner says:

    2-0 would be quite the lead to take to the emirates wouldn’t it :)

  639. Stu says:

    I’d be happy with a 1-1 draw.

  640. Jay2oh says:

    I would pay money for a 2-0 win tonight! Would be the best birthday present ever! (Its tomorrow by the way!!) Come on Arsenal!!

  641. Adebayor.....papa says:

    4-1

    Sonny, Nasri and Gallas on score sheets

  642. irishgunner says:

    happy birthday Jay :D

  643. Faceman says:

    Stu, 1-1 would be ok.

    Not getting an way goal would be bad, i would favour a 2-1 defeat with the away goal in the bag over a 0-0 draw.

    Bizzare logic, but that away is crucial in the way you play the 2nd leg.

  644. Pedro says:

    Happy birthday Jay

  645. Franchise says:

    Adebarndoor
    Adebarndooooooooooooooooooor

    Give him the ball and he might score!!!!

    :lol:

  646. Jay2oh says:

    Cheers Irish :)

    Up the Arsenal – My mates stayed over in Valencia last night prior to the game and visited a brothal, after waaaaaaay to many drinks! lol

  647. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Morning all

  648. kevin says:

    Nasri to score a hattrick.

  649. patthegooner says:

    definately faceman.

    I remember a similar situation against PSV a couple of years ago, we thought we had a banker of a tie, failed to score and lost the 1st leg and then they scored in the last few minutes from an Alex header making it impossible to come back into it…..I hate away goals at times..

  650. maqitlarge says:

    So the Arsenal have already scored Jay! :)

  651. Stu says:

    Franchise, Might? Should be give Fabragas the ball and he will give ade a chance to have a shot on target if he isnt offside…. but i suppose that might be a bit long so…..

  652. irishgunner says:

    :lol: Franchise

  653. Franchise says:

    happy birthday Jay. I love ur username second best to mine

  654. Adebayor.....papa says:

    Franchise… stop being rude to Sonny ;)

  655. Faceman says:

    pat – remember that game well, was in the south upper directly behind the goal alex stuck the header in to.

    pretty sure it was gilberto, maybe beast, who failed to pick him up.

  656. Franchise says:

    ok

    Adebayor

    Adebayooooooooooooooooooooooor

    Give him the ball and he will score!!!

  657. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    B-)

  658. Stu says:

    Whoever it was that didnt pcik him up wasnt totally to blame. It was Hleb for making a retarded foul in the first place.

  659. maqitlarge says:

    but it was Hleb who gave away the corner when he should have cleared Faceman. One too many shoulder drops as I recall. I could be wrong though!!

  660. irishgunner says:

    On Irish TV they have Denilson on the right and Nasri behind Adebayor??

  661. Faceman says:

    haha, correct stu.

    was a right gutter that night.

  662. Franchise says:

    How many reps can Niklas Bendtner ‘BENCH’ press????

  663. maqitlarge says:

    was it a fould in the corner Stu. I knew it was something like that.

    So Wiltord vrs Valencia Esque!!!

  664. Franchise says:

    BBK u r meant to use an 8 (eight) not a B

  665. Stu says:

    Generally about 6 franchise. Why? :grin:

  666. A says:

    ha irish, that’s cos they’re dumb – it really annoys me when pundits and such like know so much less than fans and make really stupid mistakes. They should be experts with superior knowledge and insight, not inferior to your average fan.

  667. Franchise says:

    I love Niki

  668. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    using a B it looks like the face has got some eyebrows

  669. Rizzy says:

    when your freeview fucks up on match day u know ur doomed :(

    links ppl?

  670. Franchise says:

    oh nikki ur so fine

    ur so fine u blow my mind

    eh Nikki eh Nikki

  671. irishgunner says:

    A – It was whoever put up the picture not the commentators, wouldn’t call the Irish pundits dumb – they just laid into Rooney and Berbatov, hardly dumb :D

  672. Stu says:

    Dammit Franchise, you forgot the claps in between the “hey Nikki”s. Way to ruin it!!!

  673. Franchise says:

    BBK u r a truly modern contemporary artist

  674. Stu says:

    Irish, they are dumb not blind!

  675. Franchise says:

    oh nikki ur so fine

    ur so fine u blow my mind

    eh Nikki clap clap clap

    eh Nikki

  676. Stu says:

    Thats better! :|

  677. irishgunner says:

    dumb as in they can’t talk?

  678. Jay2oh says:

    Around 10 mins to go.. The heart is pumping faster already. Suprised Pires is on the bench…..

  679. irishgunner says:

    1 eye on the Porto, United match and 3 eyes on our game – yep that’s right I have 4 eyes

    C’MON GUNNERS

  680. Stu says:

    No. Dumb as in they are thick!

  681. irishgunner says:

    I think they are good at times Stu – better than most of the other shite

    Whelan, Dunphy and Giles just said Arsenal have a very good shot of winning the CL – I’ll take that thanks ha ha

  682. Stu says:

    Irish, the most shocking thing about that comment is that you appear to have 2 TVs next to eachother, presumably in the same room….and we in a fecking recession dammit! Either that or your american and have ‘picture and picture’.

  683. Adebayor.....papa says:

    Stu,

    You can watch multiple games on your PC and it doesn’t cost a dime

  684. reggie57 says:

    BBK
    Any predictions for tonite?

  685. Adebayor.....papa says:

    what if Pires is an unused sub?

  686. irishgunner says:

    tv and laptop Stu

  687. Adebayor.....papa says:

    you can watch multiple streams

    one on sopcast, one on veetle, one on media player and if needed one on TV :P

  688. paul says:

    Look at all those flags,bet our stewards are having kittens

  689. Stu says:

    But Irish, both are on tv, irish tv no less. So which one are you watching on the laptop?

  690. Jay2oh says:

    Here we go people…Come on you reds!!!!

  691. Adebayor.....papa says:

    paul

    our Stewards should be sent to Hawaii

  692. irishgunner says:

    United get demoted to the stream of course, like you need to ask

  693. Rizzy says:

    thank irish, found a link tho.

    http://www.championsleague.itv.com/page/ITVCL/MatchTwo/0,,10802~1245463,00.html

    perfect if anyone needs it.

  694. Ja_Gunner says:

    Setanta has the formation loike this.

    ………..Al………………

    Sagna….Kolo….Gallas….Clichy

    …………Song……………..

    Denilson……Cesc…….Walcott

    ……………….Nasri……..

    …………Ade……………..

  695. Faceman says:

    fuck me, that was an unreal move

  696. maqitlarge says:

    ummmm

    they looks a bit sharp!

  697. Adebayor.....papa says:

    Villareal also have someone named Viera

  698. maqitlarge says:

    1

  699. Wow, they came out the blocks :(

    lets calm this and come out fighting!

  700. Ja_Gunner says:

    But its wring beause Walcott is out right.

  701. Adebayor.....papa says:

    and i would worry Nihat as an impact sub

    saw him in euros, he has a blistering shot froma range

  702. irishgunner says:

    POOOOOOOOOOOOOOORTOO

  703. Stu says:

    Lovely touch from Ade there. Papa, what way did you teach him at all!!
    Almunia almost lost the plot there.

    And Papa, thats a keeper. He failed a medical with us a few years ago…knee or hip of something.

    We’re having a real dodgey fucking start aint we!

  704. Ja_Gunner says:

    Porto have scored!!!

  705. maqitlarge says:

    fucking hell Irish. Good spot!!!

  706. Stu says:

    Irish, what was it like. Long ranger?

  707. yeah, they are really moving into the channels well, Song needs to drop a little deeper, as does Denilson

  708. Adebayor.....papa says:

    Rodriguez !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    my man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    El Cid !!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  709. goonermichael says:

    The cunts are losing

  710. maqitlarge says:

    Almunia needs to own up if he’s not right!

  711. Adebayor.....papa says:

    Stu

    Sonny has a short leg

  712. Stu says:

    1 short leg, 2 shit feet…..

  713. irishgunner says:

    Stu – just inside the box, slipped and curled into the bottom corner, evans didn’t cover him

  714. Adebayor.....papa says:

    David Pleat was wondering if Porto will even have moral courage tonight..

    take that you dumbass

  715. Adebayor.....papa says:

    stu

    ugly duckling syndrome

  716. David says:

    Looking a little shaky to start this here…Is it me or Almunia was holding the Ankle that that Idiot Djiouff did him?

  717. maqitlarge says:

    youngsters Irish! They always let you down!!! :)

  718. Stu says:

    I wouldnt be suprised if their players start diving all round the place. Hope the ref doesnt get fooled.

  719. irishgunner says:

    ha ha Maq :lol:

  720. Stu says:

    FUCKING NICE DEFENDING! 2 DMS AND HE HAS A FREE SHT FROM THE EDGE OF THE BOX………..CUNTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  721. David says:

    Im not used to seeing my Arsenal not have the lion share of possession…this is interesting.

  722. David says:

    O MY GOD

  723. Geoff says:

    And that my friends is why I don’t rate Alexandre Song.

    Fucking useless cunt.

  724. Stu says:

    Well this is a right shit start! Watch everything go wrong now!

  725. come on arsenal now, we have to score

  726. irishgunner says:

    :(

  727. Faceman says:

    ffs, been coming

    no big deal, at least it is not an away goal like the mancs have let in.

    early days. i;d take a 2-1 defeat all day long.

  728. Stu says:

    Geoff, in all fairness he was on Rossi. Denilson should have been covering next to him.

  729. reggie57 says:

    Geoff he is growing as a plyer

  730. David says:

    Fuk were missing the Russian.

  731. reggie57 says:

    player

  732. Ja_Gunner says:

    Geoff what about Denilson…..Song was tackling Rossi….then Rossi found Senna….where was Denilson?

    Where was Denilson to back up SOng..surely he cant cover 2 people at once.

  733. what i dont understand is where in the blue hell was denilson??

  734. Stu says:

    Ade missing out to a header against Senna who didnt even jump. Fucking lovely!

  735. Bobby 7 says:

    Just me… or whas that a bad misstake by Almunia?

  736. maqitlarge says:

    check this: we’ll ruin them from set pieces!

  737. Hollywood Hotsauce says:

    how the hell was that Song’s fault? get a grip Geoff!!!

  738. maqitlarge says:

    or not…

  739. Faceman says:

    lol, its only 12 mins into the game chaps.

    chill, they are having their purple patch we will get ours at some point.

  740. David says:

    We are getting abused left and right and center.

  741. Adebayor.....papa says:

    fecking senna

  742. from what i can see, Song was doing all the running around there, Denilson was nowhere

  743. Ja_Gunner says:

    Anyway its good that they scored.

    Maybe now the team will wake up. The team started slowly.

    They need to impose themselves now. Villareal has been in complete control.

  744. reggie57 says:

    yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

  745. Stu says:

    Not just you Bobby, it was a great shot but he was shill beaten at his near post.

  746. maqitlarge says:

    our so called DM are invisible!

  747. reggie57 says:

    nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  748. David says:

    Song was covering the man that passed to Senna…

    Where the fack was denilson?

  749. irishgunner says:

    Donkey or a porto defender – fucking donkey

    1-1

  750. Bobby 7 says:

    Brilliant tackle Song

  751. maqitlarge says:

    Manu U 1-1

    you won’t believe they gift they got!

  752. Magnus says:

    can someone provide me with a decent link to a livestream..

  753. Ja_Gunner says:

    Good tackle by Song.

    The rest of the team seem lazy except Walcott and Ade.

    The rest are playing at snail pace.

  754. Stu says:

    Irish, Donkey? You mean Shrek!

  755. LMAO @ Rooneys goal

  756. Faceman says:

    brilliant theo, just briliant

  757. maqitlarge says:

    Theo!

  758. maqitlarge says:

    and at all the important points in that move Ade was offside!

  759. Geoff says:

    Well it must just be me and the commentators then that think it was down to Song, silly me hotsauce, you must be right.

  760. Nightman says:

    Nasri is missing at the moment…

    Although I wouldnt be surprised if he pops up to score one

  761. Faceman says:

    we’ll win this 2-1

  762. irishgunner says:

    porto are ripping United apart

  763. unlucky nasri, good play walcott!

  764. Bobby 7 says:

    I can see us scoring from a corner today… Villareal are short it seems…

  765. irishgunner says:

    Stu – was calling the Porto defender a donkey cos he is a donkey

  766. Jay says:

    Senna..

  767. Magnus says:

    I nead a stream..anybody with a decent link ?

  768. haha Jay, that could have been £250 bank for you if Gallas was onside and put it away!

  769. maqitlarge says:

    not with delivery like that Bobby

  770. Faceman says:

    btw – when the fuck will fatboy nasri lose that blubber he is carrying?

    he is a disgrace, a professional athlete carrying an extra 4 or 5 lbs.

  771. Hollywood Hotsauce says:

    Song did his job Denilson went missing. Your watching the match right?..don’t let your HATRED of Song cloud your judgement.

  772. Erichero says:

    I’m pretty sure Wenger tried to buy Senna in the summer, judging from the comments he made.

  773. Jay says:

    Song fucked up, didnt rush up to senna, stunning strike, almunia couldnt cover the near post..

  774. Nightman says:

    Cant wait till Nasri and Cesc REALLY start to understand and know each other.

  775. Sagna keeps falling over….

  776. Bobby 7 says:

    Come on lads! Lets get the passing a bit more crisp and we will score…

  777. Ja_Gunner says:

    Hey Jay..Song was tackling Rossi.

    Then Rossi passed the ball to Senna.

    Did you really expect him to cover both….

    All that time when Rossi was twisting and turning trying to get away from Song where was the second DM Denilson?

    He must have been out at sea.

  778. Stu says:

    Looks like Fabianski is warming up on the touvhline.

  779. kelsey says:

    the comentator called almunia lehmann.we have got the wrong boots on,everyone is falling over.need to regain some composure,can’t afford another slip up.

  780. Cesc is lookin for his range at the moment, hes gonna get it soon

  781. Jay says:

    can adebayor pass more than 8 yards?

  782. Geoff says:

    You are obviously not watching the same game that I am then, the commentators both said he went missing.

    I don’t hate Song, how many times must I tell you people that like him, I just don’t rate him.

    Nor does anyone that sees him week in week out, unlike you of course, but how often do you go?

  783. Faceman says:

    vela needs to get a game in the 2nd half, nasri is ineffective.

  784. Stu says:

    Surely Almunia got injured before the goal because nothing has happened him since. That injury could have cost us the goal.

  785. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    r there 2 wengers on the touch line :)

  786. David says:

    O God what was that SOng…Arsene do something PLEASE!

  787. Faceman says:

    Steady on Geoff, not sure we need to get childish and imply that if you go to matches you are a better fan.

    We all love the club.

  788. Bobby 7 says:

    filho da putas!

  789. David says:

    They are slicing through our defence like it wasnt there….And ALmunia is off???

    Oh dear.

  790. Evo in Oz says:

    great thats all we need

  791. Fabianski is coming on…..

    Its amazing how flat we look without Arshavin & Diaby.

  792. David says:

    ah Shit.

  793. Geoff says:

    Listen Faceman, don’t you start, I was saying that when you go to matches, you see what his movement is like, and it’s shit, people that watch MOTD highlights don’t see what we all do.

  794. maqitlarge says:

    Vela or Bentner for Song. Oncoming player wide with Nasri more central

  795. paul says:

    Super Fab

  796. Jay says:

    Gallas..so close! Thats why gallas is class, 5th top scorer for us, and a wc defender..

  797. Stu says:

    Brilliant double save there!

  798. David says:

    All we need to do is score…common ARsenal.

  799. Ja_Gunner says:

    We are playing too deep. Inviting pressure.

    We need to attack. Even Walcott now has to be defending. This does not look good at all.

  800. irishgunner says:

    feck this – c’mon lads a draw would do

  801. Faceman says:

    fair enough, geoff.

    i see your point.

  802. We gotta score man, great double save Lukaz

  803. Evo in Oz says:

    fuck me we’re all at sea at the minute!@

  804. David says:

    Ladies and Gents….

    I think we are seeing Arsenal’s New Number 1 in action.

    Fantastic double save!

  805. paul says:

    Very Disjointed

  806. Nightman says:

    STOP LOSING THE BALL!

  807. Stu says:

    Geoff, Song is shit but wasnt responsble for blocking that shot. Just accept that. But he is very shit….especially when asked to play with the ball…or even without it.

  808. Jay says:

    What are they playing on Ice? ffs

  809. Geoff says:

    Thank you face man!

  810. Hollywood Hotsauce says:

    we’ve got nothing going on right now. Villareal are controlling the match. We need something from somewhere.

  811. Songs passin has been hit and miss today, thats probably the only fault I have with him right now

  812. Bobby 7 says:

    one guy in the box….

  813. Stu says:

    Why the fuck are our players crossing the ball when Ade is standing next to them! Idiotic or what!

  814. Geoff says:

    He was trying to shut it down Stu, if Senna had been trying to shut Song down, he would have, that’s the job of a defensive midfielder.

  815. Jay says:

    Fab is starting to thread that needle, wont be long ;)

  816. maqitlarge says:

    stu – standing it up back post to Walcott of all people.

  817. David says:

    Are we a crossing team now? Is that all we do?

  818. irishgunner says:

    half time could come a bit quicker so the players could put on the right boots

  819. Ja_Gunner says:

    Nasri has not done anything.

    Maybe we need Vela on….he played in Spain before.

  820. Nightman says:

    Good play KOLO

  821. Evo in Oz says:

    love kolo

  822. Stu says:

    I know Geoff but Song was marking Rossi when he passed the ball and it would have been a massive ask for him to get to Senna in time. Thats all im saying.

  823. Hollywood Hotsauce says:

    I dont got to Arsenal matches because I cant afford it…I’m a student……however I watch all the matches on tv or on streams so I’m not uninformed when forming a view of Alex Song’s capability as a footballer!!

  824. paul says:

    I would be surprised if Nasri is 100% fit

  825. Faceman says:

    why the fuck is badey never in the box?

    we have no striker this is shit

  826. Ja_Gunner says:

    Geoff…..I dont think most of the guys are speaking generally.

    They are talking about this specific case. In this case ..Song was trying to cover two people then…Rossi first….then Senna.

    The question we are asking is…Where was his partner(Denilson) to back him up?

  827. David says:

    Our Counter Attacking is Disgraceful

  828. Stu says:

    And now Galls is hurt. Fucking lovely game so far isnt it.

  829. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    song is out of his depth here

  830. Evo in Oz says:

    whats with the shite passing?

  831. Bobby 7 says:

    and now we lost one of our best players??

  832. paul says:

    Fuck me this is going well

  833. David says:

    O My God

    Song.

  834. Geoff says:

    Song has given away another stupid kick, let’s hope they don’t score from it.

  835. Stu says:

    So Song gives away a dangerous free kick, gets booked and injures our best defender. ALl in a days work huh!

  836. Ja_Gunner says:

    Again…Song fouled Rossi….He was trying to cover …

    where is Denilson he doesnt seem to be covering today.

    It seems our luck is going down the drain in this match..Now Gallas is hurt.

    Whats goin on?

  837. Evo in Oz says:

    gallas gone too

  838. Jay says:

    Well stopped Fab

  839. Nightman says:

    FUCK

  840. Song hasn’t been good today, but he wasn’t totally at fault for the goal, denilson must shoulder some blame aswell

  841. irishgunner says:

    well this is going shite

  842. David says:

    Fuck the two DM system.

  843. reggie57 says:

    he is growing as a player though geoff

  844. David says:

    I hate to say it but this doesnt look good.

  845. Nightman says:

    We need to recover…

    CAnt let this be one of those days…

  846. Ja_Gunner says:

    Where is our attack today.

    Non-existent.

    We need Bendtner and Vela on…..if Gallas is ok that is.

  847. Stu says:

    Take one of the “DMs” off for Vela and maybe Bendtner on for Ade.

  848. Hollywood Hotsauce says:

    We’ve been outclassed by Villa. We’re lucky to be only 1-0 down. Change of personnel maybe? switch people around?

  849. Ja_Gunner says:

    I think push Song back to CB and get Bentner on.

  850. Bobby 7 says:

    For me Cesc is far to far up the field… almost playing as a second striker… all the “creaqtivity” has to come from Denilsong…. which is not a good thing…

  851. irishgunner says:

    get to half time only 1-0 down would do for now

  852. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    its all going wrong yet again please why djourou

  853. David says:

    LOL

    Wow…this looks like childsplay….

  854. Stu says:

    I bet that the other sub will be Eboue. To see out the 2 goal loss.

  855. Nightman says:

    Denilson and Song can be almost inept at times going forward. Wouldnt mind seeing RAMSEY for Song.

    Glad to see Gallas moving at least

  856. Ja_Gunner says:

    Geez Wenger..wasted it on Djouoru..We need more attacking options….now we only have one….

  857. Bobby 7 says:

    Problem is we cant do anymore subtitutions cause we need the last in case anyone else gets injured… which will happen…. so we just need to ride this game out somehow…

  858. this is not good at all

    im actually praying in my room as we speak….

  859. Stu says:

    This is fucking awful.

  860. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    song and denilson are getting schooled tonight

  861. irishgunner says:

    nightman – no ramsey on the bench

  862. maqitlarge says:

    Ade is a fucking prick!

  863. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    how much are we missing diaby & ofcourse arswaxin ;)

  864. Ja_Gunner says:

    Why did he waste a sub on Djouoru…why not push SOng back…..

    so that we have 2 attacking options?

    Now i think its only Bentner(attacker) that will see game time.

  865. Stu says:

    Ade, Denilsong, they are all shite tonight.

  866. David says:

    Bring on Bendtner….it cant get any worse than this.

  867. Nightman says:

    Well said Bobby

  868. nishanth says:

    Cant wait for the half time whistle

  869. Stu says:

    What the fuck was that!

  870. Jay says:

    Cesc is a genius lol

  871. irishgunner says:

    fuck’s sake Ade trying to get sent off

  872. David says:

    No Van Persie…so wot do we do?

  873. irishgunner says:

    WTF?????? wanker of a ref

  874. David says:

    Villareal are expects falling to the floor innit?

  875. favre says:

    lol that was a goal. The ref blew his whistle

  876. Stu says:

    Thank god its HT but we still have another 45 to “play”.

  877. nishanth says:

    I said it before.We shouldn’t have started with 4-2-3-1. Their defense isn’t that great.If put under pressue they will crumble.Should have played vela instead of song or denilson.Fabregas as a supporting striker is a hit and miss option.

  878. Hollywood Hotsauce says:

    denilson is a pointless player…

  879. Arsenaldo says:

    I cant watch this crap. its like replay from 2006. they kick our asses big time with the same sistem same tactics. anybody from arsenal taken any notes from that game at all??

  880. Ja_Gunner says:

    Ade is too isolated.

    Cesc and Nasri dont have the speed to go support him.

    Cesc has the passing but as another grover said he seems to be too far up the field to pull the strings.

  881. David says:

    Im not sure i understand why Cesc got a yellow there.

  882. Keyser says:

    Villarreal are one of the worst cunting Spanish teams we could have come across, tey will use every little snide trick they have, bunch of fucking cunts, pity aswell because Senna’s goal was good, they really are one of the dirtiest teams around.

  883. nishanth says:

    Why is it that united always get soo fucking lucky.When was the last time we were gifted a goal like that

  884. kevin says:

    Ade’s touch is a disgrace however one of song or denilson needs to go out there and support ade.

  885. goonermichael says:

    This is the worse we have played for a long time. We should hammer this team

  886. A says:

    absolutely horrific first half, ade is woeful, bendtner needs to come on asap but with 2 subs made it’s difficult

  887. IX says:

    FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

  888. irishgunner says:

    What can Wenger do now? fuckin injuries

  889. Arsenaldo says:

    Song and Ade -everythings been said for them.
    You critisize denilson but he got all his passes right, and song wasted at least 3 good counters because he cant pass the ball-just gets rid of it

  890. goonermichael says:

    We will score. Mark my words

  891. Geoff says:

    We should go 4-4-2 this isn’t working, but we’re still in it and we can only get better, they can’t they will get knackered, trust me Grovers, this will be our night.

  892. Pedro says:

    Well, as first halves go… that went pretty badly…

    Two holding midfielders and he gets that much time to pick his spot?

    Terrible…

    Good news is… it can’t get much worse!

  893. kevin says:

    I say revert to 4-4-2. Bring bendtner on, and lets bulldoze ourselves a goal.

  894. Stu says:

    Arsenaldo, i distinctly remember Denilson losing the ball on at least 1 occasion. Nutmegged the player and it went straught to their player.

  895. irishgunner says:

    maybe we can emerge a different side the second half?? Throw a few cliches out there

  896. goonermichael says:

    Well said Geoff. We are going through and the Mancs are going out

  897. This games is ours for the taking.

    We’re still in this, get the ball to Walcott, shift Fab 3 yrds further forward – we’ll score the vital away goal.

  898. Paulinho says:

    Exactly the performance I knew was coming.

    Nasri, Ade and Clichy absolutely woeful.

    We can’t have Fabregas being played in an advance role with two sideways, non-visionary clowns in Denilson, Song, and Nasri playing. Fabregas is just being isolated in between two zones.

  899. GunnerShabz says:

    tactically villarreal are over us…..

    song is not tactically good

  900. Keyser says:

    The first half wasn’t horrific, Villarreal are a well drilled and organised team with shedloads of experience, it’s just to be expected, what’s surprising is that they seem happy with their goal, maybe they’ll change it around in the second half.

  901. Pedro says:

    Ade has been bad… but to be fair, so has the service to him…

  902. simon mcmahon says:

    well song has shown against top teams he’s not even average,
    two dm’s and a free shot
    good to see tt back to his lazy arse best and the proof that walcott cannot deliver a cross, so he is not worth that big contact with the injuries we have picked up we are fucked when it comes to tactical changes now
    we need to step it up 100%
    or we will concede another and possibly go out
    FUCKING SORT YOURSELVES OUT.

  903. Arsenaldo says:

    It can get Pedro-hope they dont score more

  904. Ja_Gunner says:

    Yeah Geoff we need to go 4-4-2 but Wnger will probably be scared of giving up a second.

  905. Here’s a thought – lets get behind the team save the post mortem until after the game!

  906. irishgunner says:

    United should be about 4-0 down and that is no exaggeration

  907. Paulinho says:

    Notice how our left side is total non-event with Clichy and Nasri?

    These two are terrible, an absolute joke on the wings.

  908. Keyser says:

    Paulinho – Heh, what was your option ?!

  909. Pedro says:

    QoS, everyone does a half-mortem… what would you talk about at half time if you didn’t?

  910. kelsey says:

    whoever said the villarreal are experts at falling down are right.we need to bring bedntner on.More concerned that Gallas isn’t too badly injured,because Djorou ain’t great shakes.Where is Nasri,i looks like part of the pitch is an ice rink.

  911. IX says:

    at least ade score..

  912. Keyser says:

    Queen of Surburbia – I’m disappointed, I’d have thought you’d have worked out how it goes on here by now, heh.

  913. choy says:

    Hleb i’m sure

  914. Arsenaldo says:

    Stu I didnt say denilson has been perfect-just said there are worse players than him so far. at least 3 of them

  915. Jay says:

    Im with u QOS. just need a glimpse of hope to be showed by the team in this game…

  916. Pedro says:

    Sorry Keyser, I forgot you were above talking about a game at half time…

  917. Hollywood Hotsauce says:

    of course it can get worse…they can score another goal..HOPEFULLY that doesn’t happen. Wenger do something….back to 4-4-2 PLEASE!!!

  918. irishgunner says:

    it’ll be ok we’ll get an early corner – fabregas to adebayor and bam 1-1

  919. Stu says:

    The most embarrassing(sp) thing about Almunias injury is that it came at the hands of the dwarf Rossi. Al should have broke him but instead came off worse.

  920. Paulinho says:

    4-4-2 Keyser. Fabregas and Song centrally. Ade and Bendtner up front. Play into the channels. Keep Villareal turning.

    We’re playing right into their hands with this 4-5-1, playing with far too much width, token gesture width in reality because we have one person in the box who hardly ever makes clean contact with a cross – Adebayor.

  921. Pedro says:

    Paulinho… Nasri has been anonymous…

  922. ethangunner says:

    typical lone striker ade , this is why we will never score goals , he needs to camp in the box , or score from a header in a set play ..

    the only hope is cesc,nasri or theo to spoon feed the cunt !

    this tactic was never going to work against a side who has a vague ability to play the game .

    also why keep looking for ade up field when he cant win a single challenge 1 on 1 … might as well gift wrap the ball and hand it over to them every time …

    play theo as a striker FFS ! we do have options
    think outside the fucking box wenger !

  923. Hitman says:

    I was really looking forward to tonite. Wenger poor team selection again. Why does he pick the smallest, slowest, least physical team he can? How are we meant to win games when there is no balance in the team.
    Adebayor – back to his worst. Hate him.
    Fabregas is too slow. No pace tempo or urgency. We lost that a few years ago when Wenger decided to build the team around Fab.

  924. GunnerShabz says:

    1-1 will be a good result, because then they have to come at us at the emirates

    but they are well organised

    they dont let many goals in

  925. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Got my Queens Park Rangers brother giving me shit now.

  926. Rizzy says:

    SHOCKING, Keyser i agree with u, totally under estimated. Its the kinda thing where if we didnt know who arsenal players were we wud mistake Villeareal for arsenal they way they are pinging the ball around.

    Fabregas needs to drop back and play some balls onto Ade, who has had NO service.
    Denilson and song need to CLOSE DOWN SPACE.
    Song needs to make sure he doesnt get sent off or give away anything pointless.

  927. Keyser says:

    Pedro – It’s ok, no need to say Sorry. Don’t worry about it.

  928. Stu says:

    Denilsong or Song off and Bendtner on?

  929. rsr123 says:

    denilson and song have been fucking shit, not quick enough

  930. kirby says:

    this is a nightmare!

  931. Keyser says:

    Paulinho – Dunno if it’d work with Bendtner, his decision making is slow if he’s not on his game, you could get either one of the Roma games with him playing.

    The players that would have made a difference are injured. Unless Bendtner’s asked to drop out wide and let Nasri roam.

  932. Jay says:

    would you be in our shoes or man u’s now? :P

    all porto has to do is keep a clean sheet at home – so far…
    all we need to do is score.. :) something weve done alot lately

  933. Pat says:

    Villareal have NEVER lost a CL match at home, never.

  934. GalvestonGooner says:

    I’m clinging to the stat that the announcers mentioned, saying that Villareal have only kept 4 clean sheets in like 30 games or something like that.

  935. Geoff says:

    It will change, we did this against Cardiff!

  936. Pat says:

    How are we playing. I just got home and looking for a stream. Help would be greatly appreciated.

  937. reggie57 says:

    Pat
    How many games have they played

  938. Geoff says:

    Pat then it’s time they did!

  939. irishgunner says:

    1-1 would do, we need an away goal or we are making life very difficult for ourselves

  940. Pedro says:

    Pat, records are their to be broken!

    I think we’ll turn them over!

    I don’t think he’ll bring anyone on… just incase we pick up another injury…

    COME ON YOU GOONERS!

  941. Adebayor.....papa says:

    maybe we lose 2-0

  942. irishgunner says:

    COME ON ARSENAL

  943. Stu says:

    Oooh that was close. If only Ade could beat a player.

  944. Evo in Oz says:

    55 mins – song off, bendtner on please!

  945. Pat says:

    stream anyone?

  946. Jay says:

    pires has given the wengerball tactics to villa..thats why hse is on the bench, advising the coach not playin hahah

  947. Stu says:

    Most f us want a dm off for Bendtner. What are the odds that Wenger will take off Nasri or Theo for Eboue.

  948. Evo in Oz says:

    sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/71091

  949. Bobby 7 says:

    Nasri is not close to being 100% fit, dont know why heis playing..

  950. Faceman says:

    I don’t care who gets upset by this….

    I fucking hate BADEY with a fucking passion, he is shit lazy fucking CUNT who does not know what a cunting offside trap is, cunt.

    Cunt.

  951. Nightman says:

    Beautiful ball from Clichy

  952. GunnerShabz says:

    these lot are dirty little fuckers, fall down on anything

  953. Stu says:

    If only we had Senderos available. Then we wouldnt have conceded because Fabianski is now playing. :grin:

  954. Faceman says:

    In summary, he is a cunt.

  955. nishanth says:

    Should bring vela on.We need a lil bit of penetration

  956. Nightman says:

    Better link up Song-Deni-Fabre

  957. Hollywood Hotsauce says:

    still waiting for walcott to do something intelligent

  958. Stu says:

    Faceman, why would anyone get upset by that. We all feel the same…or most of us.

    What a shock :shock: offside again

  959. trindle says:

    Was just thinking we needed better delivery to Ade … we got it: he’s offside. Oh, and again.

  960. Jay says:

    have we pushed up more.. and villa have decided to sit a little deeper already..?

  961. Pat says:

    I think Vela might get some minutes today

  962. Nightman says:

    Get onside you simpleton

  963. David says:

    This fucker seriously needs and offsides rule book.

  964. GunnerShabz says:

    fucking kunts

  965. Stu says:

    What a bunch of fucking divers! Cheek ofthem calling for Fab to get sent off!

  966. Mandanda says:

    Nasri should be moved behind Ade. Cesc should drop back to cm and Denilson tucked in left midfield

  967. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    get up u piss weak turd

  968. Nightman says:

    Capdevilla =Cunt in Spanish

  969. Evo in Oz says:

    this ref is a fuckwit

  970. Evo in Oz says:

    ref is getting sucked in big time

  971. Bobby 7 says:

    now this is personal…

  972. Stu says:

    lol nightman, it actually fits

    Cap de Villa = cunt of villa(real)

  973. Maciek says:

    Did we even make a goalscoring chance?

  974. GunnerShabz says:

    fucking cunts, i told u they cheat…

  975. Faceman says:

    just take him off and bring bendy on, bendy will work is cotton socks off for the cause and link so much better with nasri and cesc.

  976. maqitlarge says:

    I just said exactly the same thing to my wife Faceman.
    She didn’t give a shit, which is why this forum exists!!!

  977. Faceman says:

    useless fucking useless badey

  978. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    villareal have had their 45 minutes of fame. They are gone

  979. Stu says:

    Ade trying to hld of the defender for a corner and the last touch was his. Brains galore!

  980. David says:

    Even clichy has looked out of his depth.

  981. Well said Geoff – we can still win this its only 1-0.

    Pedro – i’d rather talk about what we need to do at half time rather than call our players names which is what some consider to be half time “analysis”.

  982. Faceman says:

    lol, maq

  983. Maciek says:

    I’m sorry guys but You can’t win anything with Song and Denilson as Your cdm’s.

  984. Pat says:

    thanks

  985. David says:

    how is that not a corner….this fuckin bald ref!!!

  986. Adebayor.....papa says:

    we are f#$ked

  987. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Settle down people. Gordon Brown isn’t on the pitch :)

  988. Evo in Oz says:

    they way things are going wenger should just sub kanu for bendtner and just leave song on

  989. Jay says:

    any1 think we are a better day team than night teamm..?

  990. Faceman says:

    we need an away goal, badly, so badly.

    this lot will score at the emirates.

  991. Bobby 7 says:

    Fab needs to be careful… dont want to loose him..

  992. Ja_Gunner says:

    Fabregas is not really good at this second striker role.

    We need to get Denilson or Song off …get Bentner in with Ade.

    And Cesc drop back to midfield.

  993. GunnerShabz says:

    this marco senna is too good for villarreal, wish we had him

  994. Jay says:

    5 wina 6 draws 0 losses for villa

  995. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    villareal are shit. Arsey goal & thats all. Come u Reds

  996. Adebayor.....papa says:

    we have had just 3 fecking shots on goal vs 11

    and you guys think we can win this?

  997. Jay says:

    our lucks turned those deflections usually go in!

  998. David says:

    That fuckin old man Senna….cant get the ball of him

    Denilson is a disgrace.

  999. Adebayor.....papa says:

    and the nut of a ref

    Arsenal Fouls 2 – Yellow – 3
    Villa Fouls -5 Yellow -0

  1000. Mandanda says:

    am i the only one making constructive comments here??????????

  1001. Ja_Gunner says:

    When are we gonna stop this low percentage crossing game?

  1002. Evo in Oz says:

    nasri needs to kick it up some gears

  1003. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Getting stronger

  1004. Nightman says:

    Better

  1005. Faceman says:

    this is patheitc, we actually dont have a striker.

    ridiculous.

  1006. David says:

    Ade…that was close.

  1007. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    to win this tie villareal need another goal tonight, otherwise they are fucked

  1008. axman says:

    we are getting back into this

  1009. irishgunner says:

    c’mon 1 goal

  1010. Bobby 7 says:

    Crossing 101… get it past the first defender

  1011. Stu says:

    Ade is doing fuck all. Get Bendtner on so he can at least bring others into play!

  1012. Jay says:

    mandanda all our comments are constructive! damn our best chance!

  1013. Keyser says:

    My fuck9ing gos

    wfetgerhghhhhhh

  1014. axman says:

    and ade scores!

  1015. GunnerShabz says:

    adebayor!!!!!

  1016. Stu says:

    ADEEEEEEEBBBBBAAAYYYYORRRRRR
    I fucking missed it!

  1017. trindle says:

    Yesssssssssssss

  1018. Jay says:

    ADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  1019. Ja_Gunner says:

    Ade
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1020. David says:

    CAN WE STOP PASSING AND CROSSING AROUND AND TAKE A FUCKING SHOT!!!

  1021. Pedro says:

    WOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    What a goal!

  1022. paul says:

    Did he really do that

  1023. Keyser says:

    Ade is doing fucka aaaaaallllll

  1024. kevin says:

    Adebayoooooooooooooooooooooor

    Legend

  1025. Evo in Oz says:

    we have plenty of the ball now so we can score!

  1026. Pedro says:

    That was amazing…

  1027. Keyser says:

    What a fucking goaoooooooolllll

  1028. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    gnarley knows :lol:

  1029. irishgunner says:

    getting into it, c’mon Arsenal

  1030. Ja_Gunner says:

    What a goal.

    Lets go for the kill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1031. Pedro says:

    Give him £90k a week…

  1032. GunnerShabz says:

    what a goal son!!!

    take a bow son

  1033. axman says:

    what a fucking goal

  1034. trindle says:

    Pick the bones out of that you cheating fuckers

  1035. Nightman says:

    MAJESTIC

  1036. Stu says:

    That was like a beach soccer goal.

  1037. Jay says:

    now ade has his critics, and even me at times.. but that goal is worth his pay packet!

  1038. Keyser says:

    Pedro – I’m sorry I was being bitchy earlier, fucking a little more happier now..

  1039. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    u must listen to reason I know

  1040. Evo in Oz says:

    fuck yeah

  1041. GalvestonGooner says:

    OMG!!!

  1042. Pedro says:

    Is Carlos coming on?

  1043. Mandanda says:

    ADeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  1044. Evo in Oz says:

    told you

  1045. Keyser says:

    Take a fucking bow..

  1046. what a goal ADE!!!!

  1047. Pedro says:

    Keyser, I love you.

  1048. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    now fuck’n get behind your team people

  1049. favre says:

    wtf happened!!

  1050. Evo in Oz says:

    that is fucking brilliant by the way

  1051. David says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

    What a fucking GOAL!

    Commmon REDS…LETs WIN THIS!!

  1052. irishgunner says:

    ha ha should of it submit comment earlier

    fan fucking tastic :mrgreen:

    yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

  1053. Evo in Oz says:

    great goal GG

  1054. choy says:

    fack these two are in love..

    fab 3 assists… ade 3 goals!

  1055. Ja_Gunner says:

    Fabregas is losing the ball too easily I think.

  1056. Bobby 7 says:

    Quality!! Pure fucking quality!!!

  1057. Stu says:

    favre, a miracle thats what!

  1058. Keyser says:

    I’m in shock, seriouly I see it’s 1-1 but I can’t remember anything..

  1059. Nightman says:

    So was the pass from Fabregas

  1060. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    where your shit roll now you disgraceful yellow fans

  1061. Keyser says:

    I love you all and Pedro heh, wtf just happened…

  1062. Jay says:

    thats why i love fab up a little more:)

  1063. David says:

    That Goal is Legend.

  1064. irishgunner says:

    Adebayor, adebayor 3 in 2 games yeah baby make it 4 big man

  1065. Ja_Gunner says:

    WHere is the support?

    We need to go for the jugular now.

    Another away goal and I think we are good.

  1066. paul says:

    They looked fucked

  1067. Stu says:

    So it wasnt the midfielders that made ade look good last season. It was fabregas.

  1068. Jay says:

    Here he comes..

  1069. paul says:

    Please dont Bobby

  1070. Faceman says:

    class from the goooners

    singing the super bob song

  1071. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    thanx for the link evo, by the way

  1072. Adebayor.....papa says:

    I TOLD YOU

    SONNY HAS A SHORT LEG

  1073. David says:

    We Are officially back in business!

  1074. irishgunner says:

    who is that man coming on??? don’t be facking mean and do anything good Bobby Pires

  1075. favre says:

    Ah seen it now. Awesome… Come on hattrick

  1076. Confidentgoner says:

    Ade’s scores, Grovers change their mindset.. ha ha ..ha, th way of grovers!!!

    We are starting to control the game and may score more!!! Support people, keep the faith

  1077. David says:

    This ref is a bald c***

  1078. nishanth says:

    Fuck off villareal..We should kill the game now

  1079. Keyser says:

    I can’t believe how dirty these lot are, they know every little snide trick, it’s disgusting.

  1080. Evo in Oz says:

    no worries GG – the game has swayed now, nasri playing better and we have more of the ball!

    king kolo is killing them tonight!

  1081. irishgunner says:

    FFS Penalty for Porto, definite and Ref waves play on fucking typical

  1082. Faceman says:

    vela needs to come on for nasri

  1083. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    song has been 175% better this half

  1084. Faceman says:

    ade scored, but i still dont rate him.

    he will forever be a andy cole type frsutrating player.

  1085. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Yo Yo20 has done well so far since coming on too

  1086. GunnerShabz says:

    adebayor is a match winner, i know he can be frustrating but we have to deal with it

  1087. Adebayor.....papa says:

    Faceman

    What does Sonny have to do to make you happy?

  1088. David says:

    Denilson is a fucking liability

  1089. Keyser says:

    We’re doing what they did in the first half now, sitting back..

  1090. Stu says:

    JD is well dodgey on far too many occasions.

  1091. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    :oops:

  1092. nishanth says:

    Faceman i will never rate him either ..but this is not the right to say such a thing..GO ADE GO

  1093. David says:

    Great job Song.

  1094. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    stu

    have u worked out that joke yet

  1095. Faceman says:

    ade papa – he will make me delirious when we swap him with meelan for pato :D

  1096. Adebayor.....papa says:

    as they say in Togo

    a lame chicken at home is better than roosters in the fields

  1097. Stu says:

    Why is Theo shooting from there. Crazy!

  1098. Jay says:

    porto – good strike for the goal…
    villa – good strike for the goal…
    Arsenal – great strike for the goal…
    Man u – intercept a back pass…

    any one notice which one doesnt belong there :D

  1099. Adebayor.....papa says:

    Same Pato who was found in the pocket of Clichy last season?

  1100. Stu says:

    What joke gg?

  1101. Keyser says:

    There’s nothing with Djourou, ffs, he’s come on unexpectedly for his first game in a while, in a very important game.

  1102. Evo in Oz says:

    maybe walcott can pinch one

  1103. Confidentgoner says:

    Faceman, am not too convinced it matters if you rate him. His coach does, that may be more important to him. lets now cheer the boys to victory ffs!!

    The yellows are obviously trying to win this game as seen from their subs. But I still think we can nick it.

  1104. Stu says:

    I fucking knew it! Eboue on for Theo. Shit fucking sub. He always has to fucking play doesnt he!! Fuck sake!

  1105. Ja_Gunner says:

    Lol why not Bentner?

    Doea Wneger want another goal or is he satisfied with 1-1?

  1106. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    great challenge dodgy JD :lol:

  1107. Adebayor.....papa says:

    if Walcott scores, i am going to show Ade’s mama heavens

  1108. paul says:

    Eboue be very afraid

  1109. axman says:

    they are tired, we should get another 2

  1110. irishgunner says:

    ha ha nice one Jay

  1111. Mandanda says:

    well done JD

  1112. David says:

    Did you see that Tackle by JD Stu?

    JD is class. And will be our CB for a very very long time.

    Eboue is back!

  1113. Evo in Oz says:

    i spoke too soon

  1114. lol and here comes good ol’ Eboué lol

  1115. Adebayor.....papa says:

    oh shucks

    no party tonight

    Walcott is off and happy feet is on

  1116. irishgunner says:

    eboue will score :mrgreen:

  1117. Stu says:

    Will Senna ever fuck off and stop shooting!

  1118. Ja_Gunner says:

    Senna has a great shot on him.

    We need a DM that has that in his locker.

  1119. Adebayor.....papa says:

    Irish

    i just changed my mind

    Eboue scoring gol instead of Walcott will also produce the same result tonight :)

  1120. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    senna & pires & the rest are shit

  1121. Bobby 7 says:

    we are to deep now…

  1122. nishanth says:

    should have kept walcott on..he might not create o score anything but atleast he will stop opposition from attacking

  1123. Evo in Oz says:

    some1 needs to take senna out

  1124. David says:

    That hit the bar you know?

  1125. paul says:

    Bobby is still class

  1126. irishgunner says:

    ha ha Ade-papa mark my words he’ll score :D

  1127. GunnerShabz says:

    they coming back into the game

  1128. Ja_Gunner says:

    It seems we are satisfied with 1-1. Villa have taken control again.

  1129. irishgunner says:

    tevez for united 2-1

  1130. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    fuck’n pires hes caused this spurt

  1131. Keyser says:

    Walcott had a small iceberg cooling his knee down on Saturday, 77 minutes is more than enough, we’ve got like 3 games a week now.

  1132. David says:

    I cant breathe…

  1133. Ja_Gunner says:

    Manure have scored.

    Why oh why

  1134. Evo in Oz says:

    kolo BOG for me

  1135. Ja_Gunner says:

    Why is Ade and Cesc so isolated?

    No support at all the rest are sitting deep on this one away goal.

  1136. Jay says:

    ade. cesc is there. give to him, run off – and wait

  1137. Rtist says:

    ..funny how Villa haven’t fallen down with injuries after Arsenal scored

  1138. nishanth says:

    I heard porto were denied a clear cut penalty.Is it true?Sounds true to me

  1139. paul says:

    Cesc looks Knackered

  1140. irishgunner says:

    POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORTOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  1141. Ja_Gunner says:

    Porto have scored!!!!2-2

  1142. Evo in Oz says:

    go p0orto

  1143. Keyser says:

    Fuck me this ref is a fucking joke.. How many yellows is that now ???

  1144. Evo in Oz says:

    fuck this ref im going to fucking bash him

  1145. Ja_Gunner says:

    Why are we just playing for a draw..even Porto have been braver than us..by committing more men forward.

  1146. David says:

    What is Denilson doing?

  1147. irishgunner says:

    well we’ve figured the ref is a dopey bastard – what’s new eh?

  1148. Al says:

    The last Subsitution is the worst I have seen Wenger make, we have lost all momentum. we were in control until then Fabianski is playing well though.

  1149. nishanth says:

    I thought it was just the english refrees that hated us..and of course those cunts from last yrs qf’s

  1150. Stu says:

    I think itd called Crabbing David, Crabbing!

  1151. Stu says:

    WILL ADE EVER GET IN THE FUCKING BOX FFS

  1152. irishgunner says:

    2-2 end of at old trafford

  1153. Stu says:

    Well fucking done. We go from having a corner to slopply passing back t the keeper and eventually losing the ball!

  1154. Bobby 7 says:

    Clichy! Legend!

  1155. Al says:

    What a ball by crab boy to our non crossing full back

  1156. Stu says:

    Decent result considering the injuries and first half.

  1157. GunnerShabz says:

    good result….

    we can take them

  1158. Keyser says:

    I remember the ref from somewhere, is he the on we had in Milan, because he seems likes he’s been a twat before.

  1159. David says:

    That was hand ball wasnt it???

  1160. Stu says:

    Surely Porto wll go through now. Easy semi right ;)

  1161. irishgunner says:

    that’s ok considering the first half

  1162. kirby says:

    well i think we could have got another but im happy
    adebayor is terrible than scores a goal like that thats what he offers us!!

  1163. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Come on U Reds

  1164. Pedro says:

    Pheeeeew…

    Much better…

  1165. Al says:

    I think thats not a bad result but we should have beat them we had them under the kosh until Theo went off.

    Great goal by Ade and he put in a great performance that is tough up front on your own for 90 minutes

  1166. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Now for some brekky :)

  1167. IX says:

    in the end, a good result for us!!!!

  1168. irishgunner says:

    Manchester United were shit, absolute shit

  1169. Mandanda says:

    got that prediction right! we’ll finish them off at THOF

  1170. Ja_Gunner says:

    Decent result..but I didnt like the fact that we didnt go for that second goal….which would surely have killed the tie.

    Wasnt a good game by us but we got what we needed.

    Well Manure is in a worse position having given up 2 away goals.

  1171. Keyser says:

    The ref looks like an eastern European Mitchell brother..

  1172. Keyser says:

    Manchester United are shit, absolute shit.

  1173. kirby says:

    he did have a good second half though adebayor!!

  1174. Geoff says:

    Job done, now to get pissed! And the mancs are out!

  1175. Al says:

    I thought Ray Wilkins was reffin the first time i clocked the ref

  1176. GunnerShabz says:

    well they have not lost in the champions league at the el madrigal

  1177. irishgunner says:

    away goal was so key, eddie and rvp back for the return leg

  1178. Paulinho says:

    I’ll take that.

    We always come on strong in the second half but I couldn’t see where a goal was coming from.

    Fair play to Ade. Sensational goal.

    I fancy us to do the job at the Emirates but the tie is still on tenterhooks.

  1179. Stu says:

    Ade had a good last half hour. Other than that he did nothing really.

  1180. Evo in Oz says:

    cant wait to have beers for brekky next week!

  1181. Mandanda says:

    ref = thomas graveson

  1182. trindle says:

    Thought we might nick that, but happy to get the away goal. Thought Wenger was wrong to replace Theo. Cesc looked very tired at the end – perhaps Rambo for him would have been more sensible.

  1183. A very good result and an away goal – means they have to come at us at the emirates

  1184. irishgunner says:

    Keyser – yep ha ha

  1185. reggie57 says:

    it was grill mitchell in the middle

  1186. irishgunner says:

    trindle – ramsey was not on the bench

  1187. David says:

    That was horrible…BUt players like Denilson always play well at home….We are in the drivers seat..but once again…we sat back and didnt kill off the game just like in 2006!!!

  1188. irishgunner says:

    it was fucking twat in the middle – wanker

  1189. tomstoned says:

    evenin All..

    great result and and much better performance than earlier this year in Europe we’re still improving and on our way to Arsenal Paradise…

    Al agree mate we where slightly better with Theo..but all over i think we’re only gettin better and better…..and what a Brazilian goal by Ade :) and one thing to remember ,..injuries kept the choices to get the upper hand as we usually does the last 20 minutes to a minimum..

    tonite im proud of Our Beloved Arsenal…

    more beers and Irish champers for you once more :)

    tom.

  1190. Keyser says:

    Stu – Bendtner’ll probably play on the weekend, cheer up.

  1191. trindle says:

    was he not Irish? Must have been someone that could take the weight off the skipper (other than EE)?

  1192. Al says:

    Thought Nasri was really poor tonight

  1193. we’ve got a very good chance at the semis now. And we might play Porto!!!

  1194. kelsey says:

    Man of the match anyone.

    For me Kolo,took over when Gallas went off,he was immense.

  1195. reggie57 says:

    Wash your mouth out Irish lol

  1196. Ja_Gunner says:

    Wigan Athletic v Arsenal The JJB Stadium English

    Wed. 15 19:45 UK Arsenal v Villarreal Emirates

    Sat. 18 17:15 UK Arsenal v Chelsea Wembley

    Tue. 21 20:00 UK Liverpool v Arsenal Anfield

    These are our next games.
    Bearing that in mind this is my Wigan team.

    …………..Fab/Al………………..

    Eboue…….Kolo……Djouoru……Clichy

    Walcott……Cesc……Song/Den…..Arshavin

    ……………Nick……Ade……………

    Van Persie….Vela….off the bench.

    Sagna gets a rest because surely he will have to play three games in a row

    1. Villareal
    2. Chelsea
    3. Liverpool

  1197. David says:

    He did nothing other than to score us our Goal

    3 goals in 2 games? Plus the goal for Togo against Cameroun???

    Ade-BadMan-Yor!

  1198. Bobby 7 says:

    Thought that was a decent result, especially after that first half. Good spirit shown by the lads.

    Will be interesting to see what the media will say about Man U. tomorrow, (not that i read English media but still) probably that Rooney had amazing vision to “create” the first goal and that Porto actually is the best team in the whole wide world so 2-2 at home is not such a bad result.

  1199. Pedro says:

    Evening Trindle, good to meet you and Trindle Junior the other night.

    I fancy us big time at the Emirates… Senna hits a shot doesn’t he!

    Who can understand what Ade is saying?

  1200. irishgunner says:

    trindle – nope very defensive bench to be honest

    reggie – LOL I like swearing during and after football games – leaves off tension ha ha

  1201. tomstoned says:

    Bobby manu was abit lucky to draw…

    tom

  1202. Keyser says:

    A little adjustment at half time and we looked much better, I swear the injuries we’ve had are starting to tell a little, towards the end we started to tire, we’re mornally flying at that point.

    Supposedly the pitch is narrow, or some such, and it leaves the midfield congested, hopefully we’ll have more width in the second leg.

  1203. Maciek says:

    If we win this tie we will probably face Porto. Who would have thought.Are there any our players suspended for the 2dn leg?

  1204. Ja_Gunner says:

    Or maybe rest Ade.

    Wigan Game

    …………..Fab/Al………………..

    Eboue…….Kolo……Djouoru……Clichy

    Walcott……Cesc……Song/Den…..Arshavin

    ……………Nick……Vela……………

  1205. reggie57 says:

    Merchant banker not very ladylike haha

  1206. irishgunner says:

    QOS – May very well be Porto, United were so terribly awful

  1207. David says:

    Btw i think Nick would do very well over the weekend…he always does against lesser teams.

  1208. Pat says:

    For those who think it’ll be easy at the Emirates, just have a look what Porto did today. Rooney’s goal was a total brain freeze from Bruno alves and they also had a clear pen. denied.

  1209. irishgunner says:

    ha ha ha reggie – merchant banker doesn’t leave off much steam, I’m not much of a lady anyway ha ha

  1210. Maciek says:

    How was Djourou playing guys?

  1211. tomstoned says:

    Kelsey mate

    been my opinion all year…give Toure the respect he deserves buy Hangeland and let Toure run the defence..gallas well good player but will never be a team player…sorr gallas..

    tom

  1212. Pat says:

    Clichy, Cesc, Ade, Nasri have to be careful at the Emirates. No stupidity and no diving, please.

  1213. irishgunner says:

    Pat – but United were crap from 0-90, we had some good patches United had none, we beat Porto 4-0 remember

  1214. Confidentgoner says:

    Happy with ManU score…!

  1215. Paulinho says:

    If that Senna shot at the end had gone on I would have literally began weeping.

  1216. Evo in Oz says:

    wenger and bobby having a good old laugh together in the warm up before the game, good to see!

  1217. Stu says:

    Fat Dolan on setanta thinks united were poorly treated because they played on sunday and werent given enough time to recover. Boo-fucking-hoo

  1218. trindle says:

    Irishgunner have now seen the bench! Was late home (awful fucking day) and started watching at 9 mins – great timing – just when my I thought my mood couldn’t get worse… Senna.

  1219. David says:

    “i think its a digrace that manchester united have to play such a big big game on Sunday and then have to play again on Tuesday that is just so unfair”

    How do these clowns on Setanta have a job?

  1220. Ja_Gunner says:

    After keeping so many clean sheets…Manure’s defense has turned into a seive lol.

    Long may it continue.

    Also if I were a coach I would be 99.99999999999% against back passing….I would rather tell the players to put the ball out for a throw…if there is no pass forward.

    I hate passing back to the keeper..look what happened to Porto because of it..Silly …….I hate back passing.

  1221. trindle says:

    Hi Pedro – great to meet up with you, franchise and what seemed an endless supply of Rasputins. Gallas will be a loss – sounds serious – but we shoul have enough to turn them over at home.

  1222. kirby says:

    shit gallas ligament damage!!

  1223. bini says:

    hi guys
    what a goal.. man of the match SONG

  1224. Stu says:

    lol David, exactly, but in all fairness Fat Dolan is always fucking clueless. Always talks shit!

  1225. irishgunner says:

    Stu – It was Ferguson who decided to play the game Sunday, they are slating him on RTE over it tehehehe

  1226. maqitlarge says:

    medial ligament damage for Gallas. Thats 4-6 weeks I believe

  1227. paul says:

    Looks like Gallas has medial ligament damage

  1228. kenny smith says:

    wasnt the greatest away performance ever tonight… song and denilson were made to look very average first half…. i was suprised song and cesc never got sent off… i thought cesc was gone with that sliding challenge…

    we didnt really offer much at all. But thats when you look to your captain and your 80k a week striker to come up with something special….. which they did… and fucking ITV were showing a reply of something totally insignificant missed it! cunts!!!

    Ade was having a shocker all night… constantly offside but that goal made up for it all.. he has earned his 80k this week… and that was just about his only chance of the game… are we seeing a new non-wasteful adebayor??? i hope so… then i will back him. Awful game up til the goal and i guess moments like that is why he is in the team… pity we havent seen more of them this season! But none of this would be possible without cesc fabregas… he didnt have best of games and looked tired.. but like ade he can produce moments of inspiration when they are playing shite… only two players played well over the 90 minutes for me first is fabianski.. did really well when he came on and didnt have much to do second half but claimed the ball well from crosses and did all that was asked. The other is Kolo Toure…. he defended like a god tonight!!! Our defending from set pieces is poor and still needs to be sorted out though… Just watched the manc goals and the commentators were fucking gutted when porto made it 2-2!! wankers!!!

  1229. choy says:

    Is senna really that good?

  1230. Maciek says:

    Dave, I know that You are over the moon but against Wigan Ade will take a breath so we can expect Your “beloved” Dane. And aside from THAT goal Ade did almost nothing.No offence mate.

  1231. A says:

    that was absolutely incredible, ade had one of the worst performances by any arsenal player all season, then came up with THAT goal!! very good result, puts us in a very good position and utds result makes it all the better!!

  1232. Pat says:

    Gallas has ligament damage? Okay, Djourou is playing for the rest of the season, Silvestre promoted back to the bench.

  1233. irishgunner says:

    Trindle – ha ha what an awful time to turn on but worth it for Adebayor’s goal

  1234. paul says:

    Fuck me are we the most injury prone team this season or what

  1235. David says:

    When did we beat porto 4-0 irish?

  1236. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Medial knee ligament damage for Gallas apparently! For fuck sake!

  1237. irishgunner says:

    Feck we really needed Gallas

  1238. Lewyd24 says:

    who has said wat about Adabeyor??????. He is the reason we are still in the CL. People were sayin he dont deserve a place in the team . Bendnter does. Please !!!!!!!!!!!. Worship him as an arsenal suporter. Cos he proved all of you peiple wrong.

  1239. Mandanda says:

    JD did very well when he came on, we should cope without Gallas and we’ve got Silvestre on the bench

  1240. kirby says:

    i think on the bigger pitch at the emirates we will dominate play the second half showed we are a better side.

  1241. tonyadamsisgod says:

    I’m not too fussed about seeing Fabianski in goal though! Almunia didn’t even come for that corber that fell a yard in front of him! He shits himself in big games I think!

  1242. irishgunner says:

    Beginning of the CL, it was 4-0 wasn’t it at home or am I raving?

  1243. kenny smith says:

    the guys on itv are saying that man u are favourites to go through???? how can they be??? no english team has ever won on Porto turf…. If man utd can only muster a 2-2 at old trafford then why are they favourites to win at porto when porto have 2 away goals!!! I dont understand these itv manc cunts!!!!

  1244. choy says:

    david group stage!!!

  1245. A says:

    maqit who said medial ligaments?

  1246. Adebayor.....papa says:

    pedro

    Sonny says that he can read the Grover comments telepathically

    he was sitting in church one day and suddenly strange voices started ringing in whispers in his head.

    Then he realized, it was Le-grove’s twitter feed

  1247. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Lewyd24 – You have to admit that apart from that goal he was fucking terrible tonight! The goal was pure magic but he still had a shocker for the rest of the game! Learning the offside rule is a good place to start followed by how not to foul a defender when trying to win a header…..Thank fuck we had him though!

  1248. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Kenny – From a bookies poin of view (thats me) yes Utd will still be favourites to go through….I think thats a given.

  1249. maqitlarge says:

    A, ITV4, right at the end of their broadcast

  1250. tonyadamsisgod says:

    A – ITV got news in just before their show finished. Almunia 2 weeks. Gallas medial ligaments which means a long spell out like Cesc.

  1251. kenny smith says:

    Lewyd… dont get too carried away… ade was having one of his worst games ive ever seen up until he scored… great goal and yeah we are in a much stronger position than we would of been had it stayed 1-0… but you watch villareal come to the emirates and crumble… if it finished 1-0 tonight my money says we wud of gone through in the second leg comfortably

  1252. Maciek says:

    So if JD or Kolo are injured we are finished.

  1253. Paulinho says:

    Gallas has been a ligament injury waiting to happen in all fairness. The guy is a cripple and seems too tense physiologically.

    Without him we can kiss goodbye to any chance of doing well in europe or the F.A Cup I’m afraid.

    Shit, the significance of his loss is sinking the more and more I type!

  1254. tomstoned says:

    Kenny

    agreed very strong performance by Fabianski..great job…Toure is a Master….and i stress it one more time buy Hangeland(Adams type player,honest,always givin it all,and would resolve our probs def.set pieces) and to explain ..villareal is probably one of the best defensive teams in Europe this year still i thought we had them hanging all second half…so for me it was a very good performance by Our Beloved Arsenal….i dont even care to mention what would happen if we where at full strenght Eduardo,Van Persie,Diaby,Rosicky…it would have been a field day…future is more than bright..

    and i think we would have killed the match if we didnt have to use two of our subs due to injuries..

    ill slepp like a happy camper tonite thats for sure…:)

    have a superb evenin All Proud Gooners !!

    tom.

  1255. Paulinho says:

    Fuck, not Gallas!

  1256. irishgunner says:

    so Silvestre or Djourou, suppose Song can play there too :neutral:

  1257. kenny smith says:

    well i think the bookies will be missing out here then… there is not much hope they will win in porto… if porto can get 2 against them at old trafford then what will they do at in portugal… hostile atmosphere, and united have to score and porto will rip them to shreds on the break

  1258. Pedro says:

    Lewdy my friend… calm down!

    He scored a great goal, but I don’t think we need to be hailing him or saying he’s proved anyone wrong… let’s see him do it consistently.

  1259. David says:

    O sorry!

    Thats right!

  1260. choy says:

    song is an ok defender..

  1261. Paulinho says:

    I feel sorry for him, I really do. He kept his head down after the captaincy situation and this is what happens.

    He deserves to play in cup finals for us. I’m devastated for him.

  1262. Stu says:

    We should get Senderos back if Gallas is out for a long period. FACT!

  1263. Pat says:

    Gallas has been amazing this season. Big loss

  1264. David says:

    Gallas is a huge blow…but i think JD will do a job for us…Gallas does score some important late goals for us tho….huge blow guys….

    But the other good news is….EDUARDO IS BACK!

  1265. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Kenny – I dont think that Porto will play that wel against them again plus Utd will have Ferdinand back too. I bloody well hope you are right though!

  1266. irishgunner says:

    I’m off to calm down, that was too much for the heart

    night all :D

  1267. Paulinho says:

    Djorou is a certified plank. He just doesn’t cut it. Silvestre is shaky at best as well.

    What the fook are we gonna do?!

  1268. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Choy – We all know what Senderos performs like in the final stages of the Champions League…….Header…..Hyypia…..wrong way looking…… :-)

  1269. Paulinho says:

    Thank god the 2nd leg is at the Emirates.

    I really couldn’t have taken another decider at El Madrigal.

  1270. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Paulinho – I thought JD looked very assured when he came on. Some great tackles! I just hope he can keep that up!

  1271. Pat says:

    Porto have great counter attacks and no english team has ever beaten them in Portugal. United have to attack and Porto are certainly capable of scoring. They destroyed us in Portugal and should have had much, much more.

  1272. tomstoned says:

    Paulinho..

    its a blow to lose gallas,i think the overall best solution would be to play Song…at least him and Toure works well together …

    tom.

  1273. Paulinho says:

    El Madrigal is a strange pitch. There’s no in between. Your either defending your box or attacking the other.

  1274. Ja_Gunner says:

    Lets hope that Gallas’s injury turns out to be not as bad as it seems now.

    Maybe he can make it back for May

  1275. tomstoned says:

    but Taig

    have to agree with you mate, Djourou looked confident..and im no fan of the lad..but tonite he did very very well

    tom

  1276. Mandanda says:

    I worry for Clichy, he might need a break this weekend, he’s lacking confidence big time!

  1277. Franchise says:

    Cesc, Ade, Denilson, Song and Nasri were all very poor in the first half. Ade was too isolated in the first half. Villareal were too dominant in the midfield meaniing theo, nasri and cesc had to sit back defending for most of it and ade was as isolated as gordon brown.

  1278. What about bloody kolo, cant head the ball ala crucial games at the end of last season and his 1v1 defending is appauling. I wished it kolo that injured not Gallas. Sagna needs to change is footwear as well.

  1279. Paulinho says:

    Tony, Djourou always looks assured when he first comes in, then it’s a gradual decline over the following games.

    I think I might prefer Silvestre in there actually.

  1280. kenny smith says:

    Toure was awesome!!!! well from open play anyway!!!!

  1281. kenny smith says:

    naw i dont want song playing in defense please please please… JD should be

  1282. Paulinho says:

    Clichy really pales in comparison to Sagna.

    Sagna is no world beater but it appears he is superior to Clichy both defensively and offensively.

    It takes Clichy far too long to warm up and start going forward. Nasri relies on him doing that and he’s rendered impotent until Clichy does.

    Sagna was motoring up and down like a good un.

  1283. Franchise says:

    Djourou was solid today IMO. I just couldnt understand how we were being outplayed in our crowded midfield with two holding midfielders. Song’s lack of pace was exposed today. the pair of denilsong improved in the 2nd half as did the others

  1284. Stu says:

    Neither JD nor Song…should be Senderos ;)

  1285. No disrespect but you must be blind or u dont watch the game closely, Kolo is worry in aerial duels and 1v1 defending, even McCormark from Cardiff was giving him the run around never mind what a world-class attacker will do to him. @ least JD gets games now

  1286. Mandanda says:

    Like I said at half time AW should have moved Nasri to play behind Ade after thos eto enforced changes, with Cesc playing midfield with Song. Denilson should have tucked in at left mid. Cesc’ presence in midfield would have improved our ball retention and distribution in central mid. AW got that wrong in my view

  1287. kevin says:

    Pires look sublime when he came on.mmmmmm

  1288. Paulinho says:

    Both Denilson and Song seem a gear short of what is required. They come on strong when the other team drops physically but at the end they were getting out hustled again.

    Walcott was very lively and the substitution of him for Eboue was a terrible one from Arsene.

  1289. David says:

    Paulinho

    Thats cuz Sagna has played every single game for Arsenal this season….

    Clichy was out for some a time too right?

    And JD…if anything when he first comes on he looks dodgy but settles down as the game goes on…When Kolo was injured he did a job for us!

  1290. Franchise says:

    Mandanda the 3 in the middle at times was crowded cos Cesc kept going into the midfield to get the ball out as Sond and denilson’s distribution wasnt always successful. cesc was also very guilty of loosing ossession cheaply but u dont take ur big moment players off especially in a game of that magnitude. those that cant stand Ade u better get very used to him because Wenger trusts and believes in him. Nasri is still someway off from being as effective as hleb or rosicky were. even arshavin seems to be more effective than him after a few months. he’s still young still

  1291. Mandanda says:

    we were dominated in midfield because Senna and Aguire were better in retaining and distributing the ball, they were better technically. However both our central midfielder got stronger late on in the match being obviously younger…Senna-Aguire simply could not keep that pace up for 90mins

  1292. Stu says:

    Dont think Clichy had an injury. He may have missed one game maybe two but no more than that because of injury. Usually plays unless Gibbs plays in the CC.

  1293. David says:

    Great point Paulinho

    I still think Cesc was too far upfront!

    If he was dropping deeper we wouldve released walcott on the counter attack…but so far with the lack of intelligence from Denilsong…we do the crab thing up the pitch or the booted long ball to Ade.

  1294. tomstoned says:

    SuperGunner..

    either youre not watching Arsenal games or you look at it complely different than i do..Toure has been and is a world class CB ..and you get a hard time finding anyone who wouldnt agree…

    the problem in the heart of Our Beloved Arsenal’s defence is lack of communication and the fact that gallas and Toure is just to much alike …and me well fuck gallas ill choose Toure t lead the way anyday…

    buy Hangeland…solve the probs…keep >Djourou after tonite he deserves another chance…Senderos..hopeless…

    tom.

  1295. David says:

    Great point Stu

    I do think Senderos should come back now though.

  1296. Mandanda says:

    Franchise, I thought Cesc played to far forward tonight. He seemed to be playing in the hole, a position I don’t think he has mastered. His assist today like the weekend came when he moved to a deeper position

  1297. kenny smith says:

    Pires i dont think even wanted to come on after we equalised

    and i dunno about the sagna thing… he wasnt great tonight either.. i think the humididy or something played a part in tonights game… we looked very very tired in the midfield… anyway… its a positive result we got our away goal… lets just leave the critcism tonight and enjoy the strong position we are in… when the match report and ratings go up tomorrow then its probably a better time to have a rant

  1298. Pedro says:

    Supergunner, don’t insult people.

    If you disagree, disagree nicely.

    Le Grove is a blog of love…

  1299. @ Tomstoned, please watch Kolo closely next time and for the rest of the season then you will see what i mean, for how many aerial duels that he wins and success rate in 1v1s then

  1300. kevin says:

    When cesc let rip that through ball for ade to expertly finish, i swear i had a fabergasm

  1301. Geoff says:

    Gallas is out for the season, bad luck, but a great job by the boys, night all!

  1302. Franchise says:

    Mandanada when we were defending the midfield trio were too close together and it didnt stop villareal picking holes in them. Everytime we won the ball we couldnt counter properly cos the players were too close together. it meant at times that the defensive mids had to go ahead of cesc and several times song tried to force passes that were not on. Ade was very isolated for most of the game.

  1303. patthegooner says:

    Well that was a bit close

    Thought we were really poor in the first half. I dont like this formation, I think we got away with it against Man City as they lose their bottle at the first sign of losing a game, but the same massive gaps were there today and this time we did not get the early goal.

    But like Saturday, we grew stronger in the 2nd half. And what a goal. I dont like Ade the individual but that goal was World Class. I know he is a marmite player but surely even his biggest critics must be applauding that. On the other hand, just as well as he struggled to get into the game.

    Now I have praised Song and Denilson for their improvement in recent weeks, but tonight was a step back. I thought both were accidents waiting to happen and both gave the ball away too cheaply.

    I am struggling to pick out a player of ours as a MOTM but maybe Theo or Nasri for their Effort, or maybe Toure who I thought played really well.

    We are in the driving seat though, and we should get into the semi-final. Great result, poor first half, better 2nd half.

    Good to see super bob again, I miss him.

  1304. kirby says:

    supergunner kolo was great tonight and has been great since the wobbles in early january!!

  1305. tomstoned says:

    David mate

    have you seen much of Senderos lately..he’s not makin it at Milan..and well not playing well at all,he’s seems like a good lad(and got a great heart)but i think he should be content with playing in a level below the very best…there he will be great..he just doesnt have what it takes to be contending at a top level..im sorry ..i like the lad

    tom

  1306. maqitlarge says:

    SSN just said it could be the rest of the season or it could be a few weeks. Too early to say and more known tomorrow.

    Lets hope its more of a Walcott than a Rosicky!

  1307. Geoff says:

    Night pedro, I look forward to your match report manana!

  1308. patthegooner says:

    It is a shame about Gallas, I just hope it is Djourou that is given the spot instead of the returning Silvestre (Who?). I would rather Song than Silvestre.

  1309. maqitlarge says:

    Almunia could be back for Chelsea but will miss the 2nd leg.

    This is Fab’s chance!

  1310. Franchise says:

    Liverpool play this formation to perfection. Gerrard, Torres and Kuyt are normally close together sm1 (in midfield or defence) wins the ball passes out to one of those 3, a few triangle passes here and there and they are off

  1311. Stu says:

    Well regardless of Senderos’ current form from not playing at Milan he would be a better option than Silvestre and Song there. Easily better than them…

  1312. Pedro says:

    Night Geoff, catch you tomorrow!

  1313. David says:

    fuck me but VillaR game out swinging…they took us apart from the kick-off And we still got a result!

  1314. kevin says:

    Whats that smell……………..hmmmmmmmmmmmm. It smells like maturity.

  1315. Stu says:

    Fabianski has his deserved chance as no.1 for a while so should grasp it and shut Almunia out for the rest of the season. I dont see what he cant do that. But Wenger being true to form will duly drop Fab when Manu is fit again.

  1316. David says:

    tom

    Id rather play Senderos than Silvestre.

    But we all know Arsene will play Silvestre.

    he calls him his “I suprised everyone with him” signing.

    *heavy sigh*

  1317. Pedro says:

    Sorry Kevin… I think that was an earlier blog fart of mine…

  1318. reggie57 says:

    Fabianski looked more assured than amonia
    never needed to change me pants at all,
    good performance from him

  1319. patthegooner says:

    Apparently Senderos has been playing really well in recent weeks

  1320. Mandanda says:

    Franchise, in essence, Cesc was either going to deep thus leaving a wide gap between midfield and Ade or going too far hence we were unable to retain the ball well enough. The main point is ‘playing in the hole’ is not Cesc’ best position at the moment. Nasri, I feel would have played that position better with his style

  1321. kevin says:

    lol.

  1322. Franchise says:

    sometimes our play is so predictable. Attimes in the 1st half Villareal were unstoppable because we couldnt anticipate their passes

  1323. tomstoned says:

    well off

    night all….still a great result :)

    tom

  1324. Stu says:

    Fabianski always looks good when he plays…unless he has the odd rush of blood.

  1325. tomstoned says:

    and David on that we agree…later mate

  1326. David says:

    Great result for us Tom

    Till next time!

  1327. Franchise says:

    Nasri holds on to the ball too much somtimes Mandanda if we had sm1 capable to play on the left he could have done the job though. the problem was if u moved denilson to the left its almost guaranteed that he wouldnt give us width. Armand traore might well have an Arsenal future. Left footed, pacey, good crosser and fierce shot. Cesc was suffering more from fitness than anything else IMO.

  1328. Pedro says:

    Franchise, it’s only predictable when we’re playing badly… I think our game requires high levels of confidence from everyone to work…

  1329. Franchise says:

    this was one of the games where we needed genuine width on both flanks. Arshavin if only haaaaaaaaa

  1330. patthegooner says:

    I think that sums it up tomstoned

    It is a great result, and one that will continue to build the morale and momentum going into what will be a rough encounter on a mud bath against Wigan this weekend.

    I hope we stuff Wigan, we could not break them down in 90 mins of negative football from them last year, and I expect the same again. get an early goal and we will stuff them. Villa play 24 hours behind again, so we could be 9 ahead before they play

  1331. David says:

    Im just wandering what is happening with the likes of Fran Merida and Bischoff?

  1332. patthegooner says:

    I liked the look of Armand, but when you look at our current options, I dont think he has a future at the club, we already have Nasri, Rosicky, Vela and of course Arshavin that can play LW. And we already have Clichy and Gibbs as RB’s.

  1333. patthegooner says:

    Oops its late, that should say Clichy and Gibbs as LB’s

  1334. Franchise says:

    Pedro one short coming of this current side is they are not very fluid with their passing and movements in the final 3rd. if we were theo’s pace would be more of an asset. Past Wenger sides were better at this. Its still a young side though in time things should fall in place. Villareal really toyed with us attimes in the 1st half i was in awe.

  1335. patthegooner says:

    Bischoff can go fuck himself. After we took the gamble to save his career, he is now pimping himself around Portugal to find a club there. Great Loyalty

    Not sure about Fran.

  1336. Stu says:

    Armand wont be an option as a left back. Gibbs has been moved back there while Traore is not a midfielder.

  1337. Stu says:

    *now

  1338. Mandanda says:

    Franchise, I don’t think Nasri gave us much width on the left either. Denilson’s job on the left would have been a mainly defensive one like he did curtailing Bosingwa earlier in the season. He’s got a fantastic work ethic and would have ‘done a job’. Cesc in the middle would have improved our distribution and ball retention from the middle.

    Anywayz, got to hit the sack nice debating. Goodnight

  1339. patthegooner says:

    Does anyone else think that Pires’s cameo appearance showed that we could have repaid his loyalty with more than a 1yr contract.

    He would be an valuable experienced squad member in my books.

  1340. TonyS says:

    Adebayors goal was sublime.

    It just about covered his feckin’ shocking display in the first 45, in which I don’t think he controlled the ball properly once.

    Its Stella time!!

  1341. Ja_Gunner says:

    I just hope Diaby is fit soon. He is better suited to the role that Cesc was playing…because he can dribble, he is quick and has a good shot on him.

    It should be Cesc/Song or Cesc/Den…not Den/Song with Cesc in front of them.

  1342. Franchise says:

    Stu armand has been playing as a left winger for pompey

  1343. Franchise says:

    true Ja Diaby was missed tonight

  1344. patthegooner says:

    Personally think we should revert to 4-4-2 as soon as possible and currently go with

    Fabianski
    Sagna, Djourou, Toure, Clichy
    Theo, Cesc, Song, Nasri
    Arshavin, Ade

  1345. David says:

    Yes…Ade’s Goal is up there with Goal of The Champs League imo

  1346. patthegooner says:

    He has Franchise, but honestly can you see Wenger playing him infront of Rosicky, Nasri, Arshavin and Vela?

    I think we have some great options on both wings now, so I think it could be a case of bad timing for Armand, which is a shame.

    Who knows, maybe they will let him fight for his place, but I think he will go in the Summer.

  1347. David says:

    Would RObin be back for the return leg?

  1348. Lewyd24 says:

    Ade will win us a tropghy. Say wat ul want. That goal is about a world class playa. I suggest we bak him all the way..

  1349. A says:

    should be david – i think vp is back for wigan at the weekend. Could well be bendtner and vp starting up top i’d imagine, and nasri or theo will get a rest, or maybe both of them with eboue right mid

  1350. A says:

    lewyd he’s far from a world class player but it was certainly a world class goal and we know he’s capable of that! really was incredible to have such an appalling performance then score such an amazing goal, sheer brilliance.

  1351. Ja_Gunner says:

    WHat do you guys say for the Wigan game.

    …………..Fab……………..

    Eboue……Kolo….Djouoru….Gibbs

    Theo/Nas…..CEsc….Song/Den…..Arshavin

    ……….Nick …….Vela…………

    Van Persie, Eduardo, get some game time…and Cesc off as well at 70 if we are comfortable.

  1352. Lewyd24 says:

    Ada is an Arsenal player. We created fuk all da whole game . A moment of brilliance gave us hope. Praise him !

  1353. Franchise says:

    pat armand is left footed which is something none of our wide men currently are. have u forgotten he is french wenger doesnt give up easily on his ppl. armand does well to pick ppl with his crosses or pull backs unlike clichy who is mostly hopeful when he crosses.

  1354. A says:

    ja i don’t think cesc is ready for 4-4-2, especially after how exhausted he looked tonight

  1355. Franchise says:

    Vela is currently deployed as an emergency wideman i doubt if that is wenger’s long term plans for him

  1356. Ja_Gunner says:

    Gibbs is the FA Cup left back but maybe we should switch it..play him against Wigan..and play Clichy against Chelsea?

    Sagna needs a rest so he can play 3 in a row…..Villa
    Chelsea Pool.

    Rest Ade for the battles.

    Tune up Van Persie and Eduardo.

    If fit Diaby on for Cesc after 65

  1357. patthegooner says:

    Franchise, I like him, but even though he is French, I just dont see him getting a game next season.

    I honestly dont even think he will get on the bench if we manage to stay pretty much injury free in pre-season.

  1358. TonyS says:

    I will always back the team and the players. But correct me if I’m wrong Adebayor did not trap the ball correctly ONCE in the first 45. If its between Ade and Eduardo then sorry its a Eduardo every time for me. Don’t really care as long as we win though!!

  1359. A says:

    you are wrong tony – he took it down very well once in the first half, but the number of times he gave it away was just embarrassing. If he hadn’t scored the wondergoal it would’ve been the worst performance by an arsenal player this season, but he turned into a hero!

  1360. Franchihttp://le-grove.co.uk/2009/04/07/into-the-madrigal-we-must-go-all-guns-blazing-the-spirit-of-59/#comment-237897se says:

    pat i somehow feel arsene would bring him back and use him occassionally

  1361. Franchise says:

    pat i somehow feel arsene would bring him back and use him occassionally…

  1362. Franchise says:

    ive seen worse performances than that lets stop exaggerating

  1363. patthegooner says:

    We shall see Franchise, I hope so,

    A I think you are right there, if it was not for a goal of world class quality, I think Adebayor would have felt the wrath on here tonight. He was pretty poor apart from that goal.

  1364. Franchise says:

    Fabregas was very poor too in the first half. looked out of sorts. if the game ended after 45mins only a few players would have escaped the wrath on here. we were incoherent in the 1st half

  1365. Rossi looked a good player – he caused us all manner of problems by dropping deep and supplementing their midfield.

  1366. patthegooner says:

    True Franchise,

    As I said earlier, I think I will treat tonight as a great result with a goal I will remember for a long time, and that is about it

    Night All

  1367. Franchise says:

    QoS u know ur footie.

  1368. A says:

    i disagree franchise, his performance was the worst of this season by anyone imo

  1369. Franchise says:

    night pat

  1370. Thanks Franchise.

    Night all.

  1371. Franchise says:

    A what do u ever agree with? everything u say has to be law. im not gonna even start to argue with u. it just hurts u that contrary to ur rants over the last few weeks that nikib is gonna displace ade that the opposite has happened. stop taking ur unneccesary anger on ade u cant always be right. thats life

  1372. Franchise says:

    Night all tomorrow is another day

  1373. goonermichael says:

    I think we’ll have Porto in the semis. The Mancs are falling apart. Jonny evans is shit. Aren’t they supposed to have the best squad in the universe?

  1374. A says:

    yeah it’s hilarious gm – they’re capitulating, don’t think they’ll win the league now. Should chelsea and liverpool drop a few points we’re in with a shout

  1375. Confidentgoner says:

    Senna was just too good especially in the first half, he showed why we need an experienced DM.

    Overall, Song and Dennilson did well. I expected Dennilson to close Senna b4 that shot, but shit happens. The experiment with Cesc in the hole should be stopped because it did not help our midfield. Cesc need to play deeper to be effective for us in these type of matches.

    Next formation? 4-4-2 at THOF!!

  1376. goonermichael says:

    A
    We’ve got no chance in the league. Maybe if there were 15 games left but not now. 3rd is the best we can hope for I think and I’m an optimist. The mancs are lucky cunts though. the’ve been gifted goals in the last 2 games.

  1377. A says:

    you never know gm. i’m saying we’ve got a chance if the problems behind the scenes are so severe that it derails them completely, which is a distinct possibility with their recend record. If utd are ruled out then chelsea are currently 6 points ahead of us, liverpool 9 points. We’ve gotta play both of them so that’s 3 behind chelsea and 6 behind liverpool, which is nothing. Chelsea just have to lose once, and liverpool are more than capable of dropping points against anyone.

    It relies on us winning every game, which obviously isn’t a certainty, but COULD happen though very unlikely

  1378. Confidentgoner says:

    Ade got little service today, take that into consideration b4 you murder him!

  1379. Faceman says:

    thats partly because he was never in the fucking box, he thinks he is henry and can drift out wide, well he aint.

    and he shouldn’t, he aerial abilities should dictate the fucker to stay in the mother fucking box as a fucking cunting striker.

    i honestly lost count of the number of times nasri or fab looked to get a ball in the box and badey was outside the 18yd line,FFS.

  1380. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    looks like silvest will have to step up for the restof the season

  1381. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    what a fucking goal by the way from bayor

  1382. Confidentgoner says:

    faceman, I disagree. He should not be in the box when the ball has no chance of reaching him, I know he rushes to the box to meet a cross etc. Those times you mentioned, there were too many yellows to intercept, so dumb to pick out your center foward anyway. I am not saying he is perfect but some of us expect strikers to be 100% all the time. Very few strikers can be a Pele or Maradona

  1383. Obi says:

    Jesus faceman….let bash the guy who might have just won the tie for us…

  1384. stonroy says:

    Hey All,

    I just have to say I think this may be a quiet blessing having Almunia out for a couple of weeks, Fabianski will know this is his opportunity, commeth the hour commeth the man

  1385. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    8-)

  1386. Chipo says:

    Fantastic result tonight but i just have to say one thing.

    Colin Lewin what THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?!

    Gallas does his medial ligaments AND YOU SEND HIM BACK ON???

    Way to injure him for an extra 3months Col you legend

  1387. Faceman says:

    Obi – i am not a fairweather fan.

    Just because Badey scored a great, important goal for us today will not mean i suddenly think he is great for us.

    Cos i don’t, for a multitude of reasons, this team could be so much better with a more mobile, clinical sharp shooter in front of goal.

  1388. stonroy says:

    agree with you faceman, great goal, but in all honesty he was off side so many times and by such a margin it was disgraceful. Even though it was a great goal it doesn’t make up for his laziness.

  1389. Faceman says:

    There is no doubting Ade is a very good player, but he is not the one for us and this team.

  1390. stonroy says:

    he needs a team like Barcelona, where it is filled with big name players and his ego will have to take a crushing. Personally Arsenal hasn’t got the time to teach him for the greater good of something other than himself. I don’t want to harp on the guy too much, but fuck he was offside a lot.

  1391. el tel says:

    It could be our Season after all after getting away with that shocking first half hour, maybe our luck is changing seeing Coco getting injured and a young faster more confident Fabianski get a run going could be a blessing.

    Our defence looked a shambles with Coco in goal as they haven’t got a clue what he will do next. The TV pundit pricks blamed Gallas for the injury to Coco but Gallas as in the past never had any idea what his keeper was going to do.

    Great shot from Senna but as he probably knew just hit the target and you will have a 2-1 chance of scoring against him and thats when his ankle is ok. Senna went for power with Fab in goal as just hitting the target isn’t enough to beat any half decent keeper.

    Before the match started ITV 450 decided to show the goal Coco let in that lost us the Final in Paris and it looks worse every time I see it.

    The Gallas injury is a problem as he is our best defender and him and Kolo were starting to look good as a partnership. I love Kolo the footballer and the person but as I have always said he isn’t a CB he makes far to many recovery tackles and can’t head the ball properly, awesome going forward though, he reminds me more of Essien.

    Clichy is the most over rated player at our Club and should be in the Hate list alonside Eboue and Song, just what does this guy offer us? Defensively he is average and gets by because he is very quick.

    In attack he is appaling. Clichy cant cross doesn’t shoot and is worse than a crab player as he is a pass back to the CB player that the likes of the Chavs encourage. Notice how all our opponents try exploiting him. He is a good guy but then so would I be if I was picked every week no matter what.

    Song was probably one of the better players tonight after the 30 minute onslaught that was always going to fade away he actually took control of the middle alone.

    Dennilson was quiet and Cesc very rusty, Theo had one of his better games without actually producing anything, his pace kept them on the back foot until our Master tactician wenger decided to give them a chance in the last 10 by taking Theo off (when will he learn).

    Ade was a total disgrace even though he got that marvellous goal. A decent striker against them might have got more than a wonder goal and also brought Team mates into play.

    The crossing was actually excellent tonight but Ade didn’t once try to get in front of the defender as Arshavin did for the deflected goal the other week so the crosses looked poor RVP also has this problem too.

    Nasri looked uncomfortable up the left but switched on when moving inside so why couldn’t our Master tactician sort that out during gameplay instead of waiting till half time?

    Kolo and Sagna did ok but there were still shitty pants moments from either of them when we were being attacked.

    We have the tools to be a great Team but the way Wenger chooses his favourites no matter what will be the undoing of it all. I don’t want to see anyone get injured but in my opinion this could be the best thing thats happened to us in the past 2 seasons seeing our Team with a keeper in the sticks.

    Not a good time to moan as the result was a good one but we are better than this and it is being said every week. we can win ugly or lucky at least, just would be nice to win with ease as the great Teams did and help save my ticker.

  1392. Faceman says:

    el tel – agree with a lot of what you say… but to be fair to almunia, he has not let a goal in at the emirates for nearly 8 games… since that Ro**ie Kea*n* goal for pool late last year.

    he made some good stops against the jawdees including the pen save and has also looked a lot tidier coming out for corners, of late.

    but i agree, fabinski looks hungry and looks a helluva shot stopper in the mould of given.

  1393. Chipo says:

    Nice post tel, spot on about pretty much everything.

    100% agreed about Ade, apart from the goal he was utter bollocks. If only we could combine his wonder goals with Nikki B’s effort and link up play we’d be flying. Basically, all Bendtner needs to do to be better than Adebayor is learn to finish.

  1394. Confidentgoner says:

    El, nice to see you are around.

    I take the point that it wasn’t Ade’s best performance but in the first half the yellows bisected us at midfield leaving a massive gap between Ade and the rest. result, no service for a long time.. you could sense his frustration with his subtle fouling of the defenders…, Nice player review. Perhaps Pedro can just cut and paste for the post!

  1395. Chipo says:

    Yep Face, i’m excited to see Fabianski in the next few games. And comfortable with Djourou filling in now that Touré is back to his best.

  1396. Confidentgoner says:

    Now about the goalkeepers, who is the backup to Fab?

  1397. Faceman says:

    Chipo – in my mind ade improved massively after 18 months of regualr 1st team footy… bendy will do the same from next season.

    i am with you on bendy offering much, much more to the overall team style of play and i believe he actually understands the offside rule better aswell… which always helps.

    bendy can improve his clinicalness, he scores plenty for denmark… he just needs to get a good run and bang in some of those misses and his confidence and calmness in front of goal will soar, as did ades last season… and then we will have the striker we deserve.

  1398. el tel says:

    Cesc Fabrigas was immense tonight, playing in his second game in a few days after being seriously injured for months didn’t come into consideration for most who knocked his performance and said he couldn’t play behind the Striker.

    Cesc can play anywhere and if the Striker he supported actually tried to partner him things would have looked far better. Well done Cesc you are a legend. That free kick goal should have stood too and why book him then let their wall broke before the kick was taken on the retake without punishment?

  1399. Faceman says:

    Cesc looked totally caned after the 75th minute, he needs to be rested this weekend and kept fresh for the 2nd leg imo.

  1400. Chipo says:

    Confident i’m guessing it’s Mannone. Fantastic haha.

    Face if we could get 20m for Ade in the summer i would take it in a flash. Yes he is a good player, but he is:

    1) Arrogant
    2) Lazy
    3) Clueless when it comes to offsides
    4) Incapable of making decent runs in the box (think about it, whenever he scores headers, he’s standing still and the ball has just plopped on his head)
    5) Just not Arsenal standard.

  1401. Faceman says:

    Give Ramsey a run against Wigan.

    4 games inside 2 weeks for cesc after so long out aint good.

    we have the semi final at the energy sapping wembley 4 days after the 2nd leg aswell.

    the 6 point (7 with GD) gap on villa should give wenger some breathing space to rest players to keep them fresh for the MASSIVE week from next wednesday night.

  1402. Chipo says:

    Yeah cesc just needs games, the match fitness will come. He will play at Wigan, he needs matches now no question.

  1403. Chipo says:

    You see Ade having a go at Theo when he had a shot. Shouted at him for not passing when he was marked by about 3 players. Selfish. Ego. Wanker. (Great Goal :-) )

  1404. Faceman says:

    i would guess 88% of gooners would love to get rid of ade for anything norf of 20M this summer.

    a goal like todays could fool mugs like meelan into bidding 30M :lol:

    dauylight robbery as the fucker is worth no more than 15M

  1405. Obi says:

    mark my words…Butt’ will win us the champions league

    By the way, if manure – porto game goes 1-0, does manure advance or is the aggregate tied? Basically how many goals do they have to win by to advance…?

  1406. Obi says:

    mark my words…Butta’ will win us the champions league

    By the way, if manure – porto game goes 1-0, does manure advance or is the aggregate tied? Basically how many goals do they have to win by to advance…?

  1407. Ja_Gunner says:

    For Wigan game

    ………………Al……………

    Eboue…….Kolo…..Djouoru….Gibbs

    Nas/Walcott……Cesc…Song/Den….Arshavin

    ………..Nick………Vela………….

    RVP and Diaby on for Nick and Cesc(he looked tired)

    Eddy on for Vela/Arshavin afterwards.

    Or rest Cesc completely…with

    ………………Al……………

    Eboue…….Kolo…..Djouoru….Gibbs

    Nas/Walcott……Song…Diaby….Arshavin

    ………..Nick………Vela………….

  1408. el tel says:

    Confident

    Cheers mate, it is a big problem if Fab 2 gets hurt. Surely it can’t get that cruel for us.

    The Ade rant could be said of RVP at Roma, what point is there having Theo chasing down the wing and knocking decent crosses to the front post if they can’t be bothered to get across the defenders.

    Why couldn’t Wenger let Theo rip down the middle as he may not have scored but he would have had them worried, more free kicks to us instead of them and the offside trap would have also concerned them because of Theos pace.

    It was easy for their CB’s to win every challenge against Ade who is built like a Monster but he is a lazy bastard.

    Nikki B might not be prolific in front of goal but he would have had their defence working and he would have brought others into play especially Cesc in the hole.

    Wengers favourite has returned though and unless he wants him in the shop window I can’t see how Wenger could let this happen. What happened to form players keeping their places?

    I believe Hunterlaar scores them type of goals regularly he is someone I would like to see play for us or maybe an Ibrahimovic type would be good.

  1409. Faceman says:

    its 2-2 so if they win 1-0 they lead 3-2 on agg and win the game

    however, if its 0-0 or 1-1, porto win on away goals

    we could be robbed of a dream semi against manure as no english team has EVER won in oporto.

  1410. Chipo says:

    el tel- so much easier for theo to get in behind defences from wide positions

  1411. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    if gallas is out for the rest of the season silvest will have to step in,his experience will be second to none

  1412. Faceman says:

    BBK – silvestre is purely last resort, it will be 2 of toure, djorou or song for the 2 CB slots before he gets a look in.

  1413. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    wenger should play silvest and toure for the rest of the season

  1414. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    none of song or djourou have got hs sort of c.v if wenger was sensible he would play them 2

  1415. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    sagna toure silvest clichy

  1416. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    manure have looked great this CL campaign. The exposure they get from the media complements the way they have played.

    Arsenal, apart from the game away in Turkey, have looked below par.

    Yet as it stands, Arsenal look the more likely to progress out of the 2 :lol:

    The Arsenal have a big performance or 2 still in them & it will come. So to those dopey fucks who have written The Arsenal off. Who is laughing now hey.

  1417. Obi says:

    Here’s the thing about the great Ade vs. Bikki debate. If you give Nikki a million chances, he could not replicate that goal. That goal was pure instinct, you are either born with it or your’e not. One cant learn it….that why ade gives us a lot more than nikki. He has the capabiltiy to create something out of nothing, Nikkit doesnt.
    Also, Nikki would have blown that second goal againt Citeh….you just cant teach class.
    I still think Nikki is going to a great striker (I’m thinking sorta like Rudd, maybe) but ade will always be one ahead of him in my opinion…just because he has the ‘IT’ factor…

  1418. el tel says:

    What does the price for Ade mean to anyone if we get a better replacement for nothing more, RVP can go too for me as he is only slightly better.

    Use the money from both of these to get a Super striker and have Nikki B, Vela, Walcott, Simpson as back up to the new boy and Eduardo.

    There will be lots of cheap bargains going this summer with the recession biting even more.

  1419. Stu says:

    Ideally it would now be Sag Toure Sendy Clichy

  1420. Faceman says:

    who cares about cv?

    if its about a good cv, wenger should get big tone back, i hear he is free after get the tin tack at pompey.

    his cv is exemplary.

  1421. Obi says:

    Nikki*

  1422. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    if nikoloss can’t compose himself infront of goal now he has no chance of becoming a ruud v,n lol

  1423. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    The old Scholes & Giggs of the world are too fuck’n old now to carry this sort of campaign through. I look forward to saying Good bye & good ridence to yesterdays news manure in 2 weeks time.

  1424. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    his experience is not tho

  1425. Faceman says:

    manure look fucked

    apart from ronaldo and rooney… who else would you swop for our team tonight?

  1426. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    im so glad it’s not sendy in there tho stu

  1427. Stu says:

    lol BBK, he would be a better option that Silvestre tho.

  1428. Stu says:

    *than

  1429. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    To manure fans who love the fact that they wind in Clubs on their way to Cups. Well the hunter is now the hunted. The Arsenal must go for the kill, clinicly & swiftly. Then we can gorge on that sick old carcase that resides @ Old Cow Paddock.

  1430. Stu says:

    Ade doesnt have instincts imo. And Bendtner is better than Ade at everything…other than scoring goals but thats only for now.

  1431. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    thats a hell no it would not stu,if sendy was here he’d be due another raping by drogba

  1432. el tel says:

    True chippo but getting to the bye line and crossing to nobody is not logical.

    Obi are you saying Nikki B couldn’t have got a goal like that well did you see his second against WBA it was probably as difficult to executa as the overhead kick that frankly could have gone anywhere.

    I am not knocking Ades ability but he is selfish and foolish at times.

    Maybe if Nikki had played a few of the headers from keepers kicks would have been won or at least attempted to be won and he would have involvesd Theo, Cesc and nasri more in the build up.

    It was far to easy for the Villareal defence tonight against a player who is good enough to destroy anyone but couldn’t give a shit.

    Did the Master tactician bollock him at half time and told him to up his game or was that goal a fluke?

  1433. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    bendtner is better then ade at everything haahahahaah you feeling alright stu,you would never ever,ever see nikoloss score a goal like that tonight would you

  1434. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    you can’t say that goal was a fluke he meant it,how many times did henry try that overhead kick while he was at arsenal the closes he came to it was hitting the post,that was meant alright

  1435. Ja_Gunner says:

    For the second leg against Villareal.

    …………….Fab…………….

    Sagna……Kolo…..Djouoru…..Clichy

    ………Song/Den….Cesc………….

    Van Persie…….Diaby………Walcott

    …………….Ade……………….

  1436. Stu says:

    His goal tonight, although brilliant, was mostly lucky. Zaki scored a similar finish against Liverpool. It wasnt a classic pverhead kick. He was falling when he hit it, they are easier to connect with….nt trying to take anything away from the goal tho. :grin:

  1437. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    no silvest or nasri ja?

  1438. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    nah that goal weren’t lucky

  1439. el tel says:

    The Mancscum are a one man team and will be screwed over when he pulls on a Madrid shirt next year. Funny how their defence collapses when they lose the only defender they have in Vidic.

    If they had 4/5 injuries of the magnitude of ours they would struggle big time, especially if their buddys at the FA don’t help them as per usual.

    They are not out yet and we are not through so lets wait till the fat lady starts gargling her throat before we get into overdrive on them.

    Torres arse fucked Vidic does this compare to the Senderos/Drogba slaughter?

  1440. Obi says:

    No..Drogba should have been incarcerated for raping Senderos….if chelsea fans were crying mercy…

  1441. goonermichael says:

    Jonny evans is absolute wank.

  1442. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    if i ever see nikoloss do that i think i would cry for about a week at sheer amazement ade has got that in his locker he just don’t show it off enough his current top 3 goals for arsenal are, the one vs tottnumb at the lane, the goal at newcastle and tonight

  1443. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    nope because he has done it to him alot

  1444. el tel says:

    BBB

    You know for sure he meant to score the overhead don’t you and you are certain Nikki can’t do it too.

    Yes it was a fantastic goal but I don’t think he hit it cleanly and the keeper was not in the best place to stop it. Yes it looked good for TV but it wasn’t difficult to execute.

    Eduardos volley is the goal of the season by miles. He is a real striker for me.

    I would love to see Theo play the Michael Owen role up the middle as he does for young Engerland.

  1445. Ja_Gunner says:

    No BBK no Nasri…..

    I think he is wasted on the left……….

    I would rather Silvest play against Wigan on the weekend.

  1446. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    time for wenger to be smart and use silvest,his experience alone can offer alot more than what djourou and song can…..8-)

  1447. el tel says:

    Velas chip goals also are contenders for goal of the season and Nikki B’s second at WBA.

  1448. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    adebayor angled his foot for it to go in the corner he chested it down and then hit it no one can say he never meant that,im not having that excuse,i know he is a cunt but that goal was meant

  1449. Obi says:

    Out of all our strikers/playmakers only RVP, Butta’, Dudu, Shavin’, and maybe Vela could have pulled out that strike.
    Nikki/Jay Simpon/Theo are more direct and don’t have that class in their arsenal to score such goals…

    Diaby so coulda pulled that off…..maybe

  1450. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    nik b’s second at west brom hahahhaaha

  1451. Ja_Gunner says:

    BBK

    Silvest can play against Wigan..a less skillful team..that might attack less.

    For second leg

    …………….Fab…………….

    Sagna……Kolo…..Djouoru…..Clichy

    ………Song/Den….Cesc………….

    Van Persie…….Diaby………Walcott

    …………….Ade……………….

    With this line up…. nVan Persie and Walcott cut in and shoot….let Sagna and Clichy cross.

    Cesc sprays passes to the forwards. And Diaby piercing through the centre with his strong runs.

    Did you notice today that Villareal literally gave us the flanks ..we lacked a player like Diaby who can burst right thru the centre and worry the defense.

  1452. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    id love sagna and clichy to cross but they just can’t they need alot of practice……

  1453. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    silvest needs to play in the 2nd leg and against chelsea otherwise djourou will be getting the same tretment as what sendy got(raped)

  1454. el tel says:

    BBB

    I don’t want to blast Ade mate but look at the bigger picture. If he had put a bit more work in wouldn’t it ahve been more productive. He has also been out for a few weeks and could have done with an easier game to play in but that performance was awful minus that goal.

  1455. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    don’t get me wrong tel his performance tonight was crap as was the rest of them,but that goal he scored was top draw

  1456. Jay says:

    a dilema now for le boss. sigh… the back four have done so well recently… well over run them at the emirates…

    Gallas doesn’t deserve to end the season like this..

  1457. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    it’s just fucking typical of the way these injury’s always seem to fuck us over just as evryone was back this shit has to happen were the fuck is the justice???????

  1458. el tel says:

    Look again my friend he chested the ball up not down, if it went down then that goal was even more extraordinary.

    Why your hatred for Nikki B that goal at WBA was class he took it in his stride and blasted it from an acute angle into the opposite corner.

    I doubt many players would score overhead kicks for many teams as it is a rare goal but I don’t buy that he can do it because his technique looks better than anothers. It doesn’t take much technique to do it and players like Gerd Muller, Dennis Tuart, Stuart Pearson, Mark Hughes, Malcolm Macdoonald and even the Hunter are notorious
    for scoring them.

  1459. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    the moral of the story go’s,you should always go with your experience,in which sivest has in abbundance and djourou and song have none…

  1460. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    but that’s what you need to do to when you score an overhead,fuck nikoloss he is shit

  1461. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    look ade pulled it out the bag for us tonight i didn’t see anyone else step up tonight and score,even tho he’s a cunt,he still saved us from elimination if they held on for the 1-0 i reckon they would go through

  1462. el tel says:

    Have a good night guys back to work for me now.

    Nikki B will always be shit to some people but he is a work in progress and not a claimed 120,000 grand a week skiver who is rated at 20,0000+

  1463. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    nikki b will always be a work in progress,he lacks the killer instinct of a top draw striker,if he hasn’t got it now he never will do…..

  1464. BOY BETTER KNOW SHO!!!! says:

    anyway im audi peaceeeeee

  1465. el tel says:

    Night BBK

    Let me know the lottery numbers for this weekend please mate as its a rollover. He didn’t save us from anything yet as there is a 2nd leg to be played.

    I am not unhappy about his wonder goal but his contribution to the team IS SHIT. He didn’t get the service because he was standing around and not quick enough in thought.

    Ade is not a cunt he is just a player who I like very much but he is fucking about with our Club.

    If he wins us a trophy at the end of the season I will say bye to him with regrets, if not then I hope we take any offers we get and try someone new.

  1466. el tel says:

    Agree Nikki B may always be our work in progress but there are not many Teams who can have top players sitting on the bench every week waiting for a game, he is not first choice and we are not Mancscum or Chavski who have the likes of Teves and shevchenko(gone now I know) getting splinters to the arse.

    We can probably be one of these but our Great Leader sees a different way to these teams and so we have a 21 year old Danish record goalscorer as back up.

    I want him to suceed as he plays with heart and as decent movement and link up play. If he can calm down and put away the many chances he seems to get (uncanny that) he will be formidable.

    The Chavs wanted him when Moaninho was Manager. I wonder why if he is so shit? was it to use in training ?

  1467. ethangunner says:

    ade ‘s goal was sensational and by far the best goal of his career with us , but to watch him for the other 89 minutes was just woeful ..

    it was crab like again , and once theo went off
    so did our chances for something special to happen ..

    we should of got a 2nd goal , fab2 did a sound job under pressure .. and it does set us up for
    the win at home to seal the deal ..

    but a 2nd goal would have taken it beyond doubt for me ..

    4-5-1 with ade in just isnt working this season as ade comes out too far to receive the ball ,
    he should just camp in the box (off the last defender) and do what he does best ….

    BE OFF SIDE :)

  1468. David says:

    I think the fact that we dont have a true Attacking midfielder that can create something special with by himself with his movement in the CL at the moment really showed…

    Ade set Nasri up nicely for a good 1-1 shot but his effort was disgraceful.

  1469. iceman says:

    I believe we are set up nicely for the Emirates.
    But we need to hit them hard and fast first 20 minutes….get a goal and then let them come at us.

    Bring on Porto I say!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

  1470. David says:

    I dont think Cesc was in a good position to play in the hole…I mean he had to deal with Marcus Senna the whole game…not very good matchup physically…I think next time we should put pink boots in there to play behind Adebayor…or Van persie can do a good link up job as well.

  1471. David says:

    I sincerly hope this isnt the last time we’ve seen Gallas in an Arsenal shirt.

  1472. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    iceman

    I like your positive vibe.

  1473. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    There are a few things that could be improved upon to the 1st XI that takes the field, but injury, re injury & missed opportunity to bring in a specific player type limit that option. But the boys that are @ the coal face now on match day/night (shit do I sound like I’m up from up north of England ;) ) are giving it their best, so I’m going to give them my utmost support. i.e Song was crap 1st half, but 2nd half he was virtually transformed from Dr Jekyll to Mr Hyde, he was great. Ade cops it from certain sections ofthe fan base for poor attitude, etc, but what can he do when isolated up front like he was in the 1st half. His last 3 goals have given The Club a real chance of staying in CL next season, & winning the CL this season. Sure there might be a better option, but why get all worked up about it. Enjoy the next 3 months ;) for what it could be.

  1474. Jay says:

    the important thing is we did not loose -

    We will win @ home. We will play Porto – They will be scarred from their 4-0 drubbing… we will be one part of that trophy… :)

  1475. Jay says:

    Iceman – indeed
    GG9 – isn’t it better to think positively…

    btw – what is it that le boss has been saying to them at half time..? we have played more confidentley and with more purpose after the break the last few games..

  1476. nishanth says:

    Nasri had a bad game 2day.But he should start in the return leg.Playing at home nasri is a totally different player.Most of his goals has come at the emirates.We should play 4-4-2 and take the game to them.I hope atleast one of RVP OR EDUARDO will be back for that game

  1477. MARK GOONER says:

    Morning Gooners

    good result in the end,
    disgracefull 1st half, very good 2nd

    Song, Denilson and Nasri in 1st half were non existent, when you play 5 in the middle, the midfield must dictate the game, and they never,

    Losing Gallas is a huge blow, since start of the year he and the rest of our defence have been superb

    Djourou can do the business, but as for a back up were screwed, Senderos needs to come home

    Ade’s goal was amazing and could and should prove VITAL

    the referee giving out yellow cards like flyers fucked me right off, those cheating villarreal mugs tried there best to encourage him to dish them out (especially to cesc)

    Nasri for an hour had a shocker, for me when Tomas comes back should be dropped to bench quicker then you can say blonde steaks.

    Fabianski done well and im not worried about him having to play next couple of weeks.

    Clichy’s energy is vital to us. in the 90th minute he nearly contributed to the winner.

    SO now to the 2nd leg. WHAT A GAME WE HAVE INSTORE,
    THE ATMOSPHER BETTER BE ELECTRIC. BECAUSE GAMES DONT GET MUCH BIGGER THEN THIS, CAN YOU IMAGINE THE YIDS IN OUR SHOES, IT WOULD BE BUZZING AT THE LANE, SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE ITS THE SAME AT THE EMIRATES TO HELP US THROUGH.

    RED ARMY RED ARMY

  1478. nishanth says:

    Nasri has been our most consistent player this season.I have full faith in him

  1479. MARK GOONER says:

    i like nasri
    and for his 1st season has done very well and will progress into a great player

    i know playing out left isnt his natural position, but while he is playing out there if tomas comes back then he takes that spot

  1480. michael 'master' P says:

    A massive result for us in the end, we clearly came out a much better side in the 2nd half. I’m confident, especially after last night that JD and Fabianski can step up for us.still a job to be done, but we can be the twelfth man people…let’s go fucking nuts when they come over here!!!! Absolute gem from Ade, gets better everytime I see it!

  1481. kelsey says:

    Morning all,

    If you want to critise the performance,we weren’t allowed to settle from the off,a quick tempo on a slippery pitch and i think everyone would agree that we were lucky not to be 2-0 down at half time.

    there may be more,but Senna,Bentley and giovanni have now all scored from a similar position this season,because they weren’t marked .I disagree about Nasri,I thought he was pants,and not for the first time didn’t perform in an away game.I also disagree about Clichy,he again got caught out of position near the end,which could have led to a goal.Toure was my man of the match,and considering he has only played once before in 4 months cesc was OK but may have been sent off with another referee.I am sure everyone will talk about Adebayor today,was it brillant or a fluke.Love him or hate him,we are now in the driving seat for the second leg,but with Gallas out will Djorou or Silvestre rise to the occasion,with games coming thick and fast.I expect Bedntner,arshavin and gibbs may feature against Wigan,the momentum is there but the rest of the season could well be decided on who is fit.

  1482. Joaquin says:

    well said kelsey

  1483. Jay says:

    Exciting TIMES!

  1484. Geoff says:

    Morning all, great result, could have been better, should have been better, but could have been worse.

    We should never have taken Theo off, it’s like he has to play Eboue, I really don’t understand it, the minute Theo went off, the spark went.

    Having said that I would like to see Theo shoot more and Ade to learn the offside rule.

    Good result though and we should be happy.

  1485. gooner-pak says:

    bentley goal ws different…in senna and giovanni case they werent closed down….song came running from senna’s left…i think toure or gakllas should have closed him giving him no room to play tht shot
    overall good second half game…the moent ade starting getting offside i texted my freind tht i feel atleast a goal coming and there it was…we were lucky enough to not go down 2-0 at half time adn unlucky at same time tht we could have gripped it in second half 2-1
    but i m pleased with the result given 1) they read geoff post and applied tht to strategy to us… i mean they were aggresive from the start we took time to pick momentum
    2) we couldnt use super sub impact….we all knew tht only love child will come on as super sub

  1486. Joaquin says:

    but you know what Geoff? Theo had a poor game, bad decision making and looked off it. Saw plenty of opportunities to make an impact and looked hesitant. I agree I didnt want to see eboue come on, my choice being vela moving nasri to the right. But who else would you have taken off in his stead? Nasri maybe?

  1487. iceman says:

    Yeah Theo had a couple of chances to bag one…..
    I guess he’s been out a while….

  1488. gooner-pak says:

    and we didnt saw any real chance from villareal in second half i did i miss it in post goal to 80 mins—load shedding –have u ppl heard what it is….

  1489. Jay says:

    not that i rate ebou over theo or vela etc..
    but when he runs to the box, its as if the other teams get all retarded and don’t know wat to do!
    at worst is usally a corner, at best they foul him.

    if only he hardened up learnt how to put a good ball across goal..

    But Geoff, overall it was a good result…

    I also think theo, nasri werent 100% – guys after teh flu how shitty and tired do u all feel?

    i love it less than a few days till the next game ;)

  1490. gooner-pak says:

    and were there more then 11 player for villareal on the pitch…there were three defenders with every arsenal guy in the box….

  1491. Geoff says:

    Yes be he terrified them, he made space by taking their players away from everyone else.

    Vela or Bendtner would have been better for me.

  1492. Steve says:

    Told you it’d be 1-1.

  1493. Great point Geoff, we weren’t at our best but sometimes you read some of the comments on here and you’d think we only had to turn up to beat a very good organised side that doesn’t lose on their own ground.

  1494. Jay2oh(22 today!!) says:

    Hey folks, Shocking first half – Was quite happy to get in at half time only a goal down with Almunia and Gallas off the pitch.

    An improvement second half – Awesome goal from ade. Didnt see that coming!!!

  1495. Jay says:

    QOS as long as u dont think my wishful thinking/confidence is ignorance than im happy hehe!

  1496. Jay I don’t see you slagging off our players so you’re alright by me!

  1497. Confidentgoner says:

    Geoff,

    were u the big guy in a stripped black Tee, with the Arsenal supporters? My God, the guy kept singing…Was it you..? Was watching from TV

  1498. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    What about me QoSy :)

  1499. Who in the blue hell are you? GG! :-)

  1500. Geoff says:

    No Confident it wasn’t me!

  1501. Jay says:

    QOS = ijust thought we were going to score 2/3 today – perhaps i was a game to early and it will be done @ the emirates… ;)

  1502. Nothing wrong with being postive Jay nor with having high expectations.

    Villareal were just better than we thought they were going to be, Rossi especially caused us problems.

    We did well not to fold in that atmosphere losing our goalkeeper and #1 CB as well.

    It was tough, and was hard game, i just don’t like to see endless x is crap, b is a twunt type comments during a game. It seems unsupportive.

    Sometimes it seems unfashionable to get behind the team!

  1503. rico01 says:

    Hello all, I thought we were going to win by 2 clear goals, and all but kill the tie off, how wrong was I. But 1-1 is a good result, and we have a big toe into the next round ..

  1504. Jay says:

    I know – those unsupporters are so conformatists..haha
    I dont support every player the same way, but there are reasons they are integrated into our team…
    + if some players werent supported they would never grow into the players they are/became..

    BTW what did u end up naming the toddler?

  1505. t-buzz says:

    Prince of Suburbia!! Come on Jay!! LOL :)

  1506. We called him Chase which is a family name on my husbands side.

  1507. rico01 says:

    QoS – Did you used to watch Falcon Crest, there was a guy on there called Chase – nice name

  1508. Jay says:

    his nick name will be Chevvy.

  1509. David says:

    Adebayor!

  1510. tonyadamsisgod says:

    Morning, morning!

    QoS – Chase, hey! Very nice name…..just be sure to keep him away from anyone called Jack. More specificly, Jack Bauer! Chase + Jack + an axe = someone losing a hand!

  1511. I remember him Rico! The guy with the beard!

    Jay – most likely his surname will get the nickname I could have called him Amanda and they’d probably still used his surname. At least that’s what hubby and his brothers reckon anyhow!

  1512. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Who the fuck is this or was this jade goody. Somehow she has become news here.

  1513. rico01 says:

    Thats the one QoS.. He had a wicked evil mother ;)

  1514. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    ………unless the news coming out of blighty is about The arsenal, I don’t give a shit.

  1515. Duke says:

    Morning,
    All in all not a bad result, I feared much worse at half time.
    taig, i know Jack never sleeps, but a bit to early for us no?

  1516. Pedro says:

    NEW POST!

  1517. The press decided to create a new Princess Di GG which is probably why you are suffering Jade Goody overload like the rest of us.

    Her desire to look after her kids was laudable but show me a mother that doesn’t have tahat desire.

  1518. Denilson says:

    Grovers,

    Given the circumstances, I’ll take 1-1 as a good result.

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