It was a little small, but after shelling out a couple of mil extra on the fee, Arsh was never going to get a chinook.
With his boots under his arm, sign on the dotted line and start against West Ham today, now wouldn’t that be theatre?
I feel sure it will happen today as Wenger for the first time is talking about why he wants him and what he will bring to the side, he also gave them a deadline before the game today or it’s off, I believe him this time and if Zenit had two brain cells they would sell him, same as if we had had two brain cells last season, we would have sold Adebayor when we were offered £25 million and bought David Villa or Karim Benzema.
So in a stealth like manner I slipped under the radar and got that bitch in.
That’s it though, today I feel great, new and world class player in, the captain of Russia, the 6th best player on the planet, yes Grovers, salvation is on it’s way. David Livingstone says Arshavin is on the plane from Dubai, Livingstone knows that because he is out in Dubai for the Dubai Classic, I will bet Ethan’s house it will happen.
We will celebrate by destroying West Ham today, I think this news will perk up the team and Ade will have to improve or he will be the player dropped. So I’m going for 4 nil today, yes no goals conceded, we are good enough, we need only to convince ourselves, West Ham will play not defend and you know what happens when teams do that.
When they first arrived at the Grove, they had one shot to our 29 and they sang ‘one shot, we only had one shot, we only had one shot’ Today we ram that song up ‘em, today we see a goal fest, today Andre Arshavin will blow into the Grove and his effect will be felt.
One last piece of good news is Defoe will be out of the Spud game so that’s one less irritating sod we have to worry about next week.
I’ll be at the usual rendezvous point for anyone going, have a great day and police the site well Grovers, Pedro and I will be at the game.
Le Grove is now smart phone compatible!
Pedro
Geoff
January 31, 2009 at 08:49
geoff you forgot the box of milk tray
January 31, 2009 at 08:50
i feel good today…
January 31, 2009 at 08:51
maybe my heart wrenching e mail to arsenal.com made wenger speak sense
January 31, 2009 at 08:52
well said.. hope Arshavin come in…
January 31, 2009 at 08:52
1st?
January 31, 2009 at 08:53
crap
January 31, 2009 at 08:58
Wow, that’s an early one Geoff! Let’s hope the wait is finally over. If he does arrive he’ll have brought some cold weather with him – just to make him feel at home.
January 31, 2009 at 08:59
Geoff, you’ve backed him to come the whole month… well played.
I did as well… I didn’t read any articles… just held blind faith he would!
I hope we beat that rag tag bunch of so called professional today… I couldn’t deal with a loss…!
I reckon 3-0.
January 31, 2009 at 09:00
sorry i dont believe anything comes out of wengers mouth once i see hin in arsenal shirt then i will believe it
January 31, 2009 at 09:04
Hope this signing will bring an end to eboue playing in the midfield
January 31, 2009 at 09:07
We will celebrate by destroying West Ham today
and i will bet Geoff’s Spanish villa that we do
oh and his London flat also
the park bench awaits
i feel another draw coming on !
January 31, 2009 at 09:07
geoff, i thinkit is bentley and not Defoe
January 31, 2009 at 09:08
Geoff, I think it is Bentley andNot Defoe, he got his 5th yellow in last game
January 31, 2009 at 09:08
Just to say that headline made me smile when I flicked through NewsNow this morning. It would be a fitting ending to a ridiculously long transfer saga.
January 31, 2009 at 09:09
anyone betting on pinkie starting?
i fancy that
January 31, 2009 at 09:09
Love the title. Made me chuckle.
January 31, 2009 at 09:09
Where is my big fat cigar?
January 31, 2009 at 09:09
Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhh
We have braced the storm: weathered the worst and we are gunning for glory.
Fear not lads, the messiah is on his way.
Great post Geoff .( imagine if that really does happen he starts and grabs a couple of assists and a goal to boot)
Heres hoping we rape WHU 5-1
Up the Arse !!!!!!!!!!!
January 31, 2009 at 09:10
c’mon Ethan…not draw….anything bt a draw
i want the season seesaw to come to end either way.
In or Out
January 31, 2009 at 09:10
I hope its true otherwise ethan’s house is a gonner!
As for today I think it will be tighter than we think, a few seasons back this game would be 3 points in the bag but these days nothing is for sure
January 31, 2009 at 09:11
i can still see another siging….maybe a 18 year old as DM
January 31, 2009 at 09:11
So if BBC are anything to go by Eduardo isn’t even in the squad today!!!! Surely 20 minutes isn’t too much for the lad? But hey, we don’t want to rush it I guess.
I’m probably more worried that it free’s up another place on the bench for one of our sub standard players like Wilshere, Ramsey and Vela. Lets just hope our star players – Song, Diaby, Denilson and Eboue can make sure they stay on the bench!!
January 31, 2009 at 09:12
leon – you need counselling, I am as straight a dye.
Now how do you say that in French, I’m forgetting the lingo.
January 31, 2009 at 09:13
Zlatan has agreed personal terms
January 31, 2009 at 09:14
i sick of talking about the foool wenger i just hope everton does use a favour and if we win thi smatch we will fice points behind i dont think that will happen,i will alway support arsenal but i lost hope with wenger
January 31, 2009 at 09:15
Come on lads give the youth team some airspace they beat Sunderland 4 – 0 last night in the FA Youth Cup. Qtrs next.
January 31, 2009 at 09:16
Geoff, Its so good to read a positive ,exciting post.
January 31, 2009 at 09:18
IA. It’s not Ethan’s house – it’s Geoff’s. He won it in a bet a few months ago !
TAIG. No surprise there. AW hopefully learned about rushing players back from RvP last season
January 31, 2009 at 09:18
HAve you seen that Jermain Defoe is out for the season! What a laugh – £15m down the pan.
January 31, 2009 at 09:19
Lovely read Geoff. Good start to the weekend…..
January 31, 2009 at 09:23
1 nil to the arsenal.RvP free kick 96th minute
January 31, 2009 at 09:24
Arshavin in then for £12/15 – Kolo out for same amount ??
Bingo,Arsenal balance the books..
January 31, 2009 at 09:30
Well done Geoff!
January 31, 2009 at 09:31
Have to admit that I am feeling a little worried about tonight’s game.
All I want is three points.
January 31, 2009 at 09:32
anyone think Wigan can get something from the Villa game??
January 31, 2009 at 09:32
Nis plane gets in at 2 so don’t think he can be unveiled before ko. Maybe half time?
January 31, 2009 at 09:33
We must not drop points and stay in the race. Theoretically, we might be able to go as high as second, though I doubt it.
January 31, 2009 at 09:33
Wenger will probably not unveil Arsh today for fear of upsetting the squad….
January 31, 2009 at 09:35
The AW management style is too hands off…
January 31, 2009 at 09:36
Wigan will win!
January 31, 2009 at 09:37
While fabregas is out Wenger should play Nasri in the centre; he is wasted on the wing.We need more creativity.
January 31, 2009 at 09:38
I had the same dream that Arshavin would sign before kick off, although, I didn’t think of the helicopter and I didn’t think about the boots ready to play; your dreams are clearly better than mine.
Benzema for 25 mil? Possibly, but 25 mil for David Villa… Barcelona have offered 45mil and then for some reason Real Madrid offered 35mil. I can only assume that it is a Reyes thing where they think that Spanish nationals should accept less for the honour of playing for… I’m trying to think of something to call them but the only thing that has come to mind is those cunts in white.
It doesn’t take much for people to latch onto the idea that if only we had made an offer for Torres or if only we had made an offer for David Villa we would have been able to sign them. It quite simply is not true and rumours that we might have been able to sign them are divisive and harmful.
January 31, 2009 at 09:46
Won’t be easy today against WHam IMO, but I expect us to win and Wigan to do us a bleedin vavour! Bout time Bruce did something for his very good friend Wengerbot!
January 31, 2009 at 09:46
Premier League – Arshavin flies in for Arsenal talks
Eurosport – Sat, 31 Jan 09:40:00 2009
Russia international Andrei Arshavin is finally flying into London to discuss terms over his long mooted move to Arsenal.
January 31, 2009 at 09:49
London and others good morning,
Dreaming can sometimes turn into nightmares.Ade is an example.RVP must start today,simply as he is on fire and Ade is no better than any mediocre p.l. striker.Alternatively if he drops Ade and plays Bedntner from the start,that never seems to work.
I am convinced if we had sold Ade in the summer for his worth at the time,say 20 million,we wouldn’t have got a Villa or Torres as an example) but the club would pocket the money and buy yet again someone on the cheap.that’s were things have changed in the last 4 years.
i expect,hope,and pray that we win today, ugly or otherwise.
January 31, 2009 at 09:54
I agree with you on not buying a replacement had they sold ADE, Kelsey. We lost so many players over last season and the only one in was Nasri! We are run by cheapskates
January 31, 2009 at 09:58
Looking forward to the game today…the sun is shining, we actually look like spending some money and I’ve got a night out on the lash to look forward to…
It’s going to be fecking FREEZING in the ground though. All that concrete. Grove might as well be made out of ice.
January 31, 2009 at 09:58
I am off for a while, keep it positive Grovers
January 31, 2009 at 10:00
Ade aint an average PL striker, thats YOUR opinion, not a flippin fact!
The big lump needs to apply himself more and not just flit in and out of games IM MY OPINION!
Arshy’s dans le sac, as predicted! Woo-effin-Hoo!
January 31, 2009 at 10:01
Can Arshavin also play GK,CH,defensive CM and CF where we definitely need new players ??
January 31, 2009 at 10:01
Morning Kelsey
Ade had a very poor game in the week, our football depends on the centre forward being able to control the ball instantly and Adebayor was far from demonstrating to the world that he has mastered that skill. Bentner is not the answer but I am looking forward to Eduardo playing with RVP something we should remember has never been tried before as they were both injured. Back to Adebayor, the difficulty in getting too fed up with him is that just when you have he goes and scores in the next game. I wouldn’t be surprised if he score two today.
January 31, 2009 at 10:03
Gunner90 – not sure about CH, but definitely def CM, CF and GK.
January 31, 2009 at 10:07
Geoff, love the ‘copter’ is it yours??? Spotted the news about ‘Arshavin flying in to talk to Arsenal’ on Sky Sports News (before reading your article) and you know what, I nearly welled up (it’s a ‘girl’ thing),I suppose it’s because the ’saga’ has been so long that my emotions got the better of me. Anyway, exciting news, and is there a possibility now that the ‘deal’ is almost done, AFC might buy 1 or 2 more players, DM and CD, before Monday??
January 31, 2009 at 10:11
Morning All – love the ‘chopper’ Geoff
Defoe out for the season I read, hoorah, no he or Bentley against us – AA on his way having told David Livingstone he thinks its a done deal but couldnt elaborate –
So who is the next in the door before 5pm Monday, and no doubt Spuds will now try and get Crouch from Pompey…
January 31, 2009 at 10:12
I hope wenger gets another player in not only AA, any thoughts on the Toure for Richards, why couldn’t they as for for Sylvester minstead they wanted him in the summer.
January 31, 2009 at 10:13
Pompey are offering 7M for Dos Santos! Imagine him and Vela there for the rest of the season…
January 31, 2009 at 10:16
If it takes 3 or 4 weeks to sign Arshavin the idea of having someone else before the deadline seems a bit impossible
January 31, 2009 at 10:17
Fizsman is a blood diamond dealing cheapskake, where else have you heard that a player has to contribute towards his transfer fee. He needs to sell up so we can get players like Benzema fukin cheap Arsenal board if wenger spent half the money Fergie does we would win everything.
January 31, 2009 at 10:17
according to that muppet lawrenson Hesky is the best buy.
January 31, 2009 at 10:18
Geoff / Pedro
liking the chopper ! lol
Are you guys going to the s and b today ?
January 31, 2009 at 10:18
I am very excited by the prospect of the return of Mozart. He is a fantastic player. and we have sorely missed him.
January 31, 2009 at 10:19
Defoe is out for at least 3 weeks so if Bentley is out as well thats 2 horrible little shitbags we dont need to worry about.
It will be nice for Ade to rediscover his form against the spuds he just loves scoring against them.
January 31, 2009 at 10:20
Morning All,
Where did anyone hear that defoe is out for the rest of the season? Sly sports are only quoting 4 weeks
January 31, 2009 at 10:21
Ha Ha Defoe
Although he was in my dreamteam (Before he went back to the Spuds). My money is on them buying Keane back,
As for Ade, He has been the biggest loser in the lack of creativity and chances that we have been creating. Who knows, maybe his season will turn for the better once Arshavin arrives…..If he signs of course.
On that, I think he will be unveiled at the Cup replay. I dont think he will get through Heathrow and to the Emirates that quickly. I think it makes sense to wait till Cardiff, and although I dont think he will play in that game either, his appearance will ensure that there are 60k bums on seats in a game that I feared might be 1/2 empty.
So today I think it is time to hint to wenger that we want Arshavin who is a true number 10 in a number 10 shirt. I know it will piss of Gallas, but so what he seems quite good at pissing off other people so I am sure his ego can take it.
As for the match today, I think it will be tight, the ground will be buzzing with talk of Arshavin, unless Wenger comes out with another Morale killing interview denying everything, but I think we will sneak it but I bet they score first.
Finally, this is a Start Arsene, but please please please please dont leave it there. You have always been a couple of players short in the last few years and the additional signing of a DM to ensure that Song, Denilson and Diaby are not playing there is still critical in my opinion. We are still faced with the central two comprising of Denilson, Diaby or Song and that just is not good enough to get us 4th or better.
January 31, 2009 at 10:22
Why listen to him GM ? What he knows about anything can be written on a very small thing. The BBC have an agenda, they say they are impartial, but display something very different. Why do they persist in keeping those two ex-L’pool Goons? Why not have a policy of only 3 seasons per pundit?
January 31, 2009 at 10:22
Top of the Morning Grovers
the Deal must be done if Wenger is talking about the shaver?
Goeff Nice Chopper
January 31, 2009 at 10:22
Morning Grovers – great upbeat post Geoff
We will win today, I’m not feeling a prediction accept that I think the scoreline could be remarkable.
Amongst the euphoria re Arshavin’s arrival, I am cautious that we are already reliant on other teams losing significantly to grab 4th or higher and our run in to the end of the season is very tricky. We need villa to have the luck we had at the end of last season, and AA to be the inspiration for a long unbeaten run.
January 31, 2009 at 10:23
what happend to Dos Santos,? dont think i have ever seen him play for the spuds?
January 31, 2009 at 10:24
TA is not doing us any favours by trying to boost the spuds transfer coffers with 7 mil for Dos Santos. They are scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for a replacement for Defoe!
January 31, 2009 at 10:25
Does Wenger ever think what he is doing playing Zinedine Eboue in the same position where the Mancs play Ronaldo, i think he is losing it.
January 31, 2009 at 10:26
morning all
well yesterday everyone was saying that we appliad for a work permat.and in the end arsene denied it
whats not to say this flying thing is also untrue?
January 31, 2009 at 10:27
looks like nzobia(newcastle eboue) is going to wigan for 6m?
are they mad?
January 31, 2009 at 10:27
morning all..
some exciting news finally..
now waiting for arse.com to show us arshavin
January 31, 2009 at 10:30
i heard they are going to throw bottles of vodka into the crowd in celebration of AA signing
January 31, 2009 at 10:30
I cannot believe TA wouldpay big bucks for a player who can’t even get into a struggling team. It must be bullshit.
Dos Santos was meannt to be the dogs … a few months at the Shithole and his career is close to collapse. Same with Bentley
January 31, 2009 at 10:30
Come on ZINEDINE EBOUE !!!
January 31, 2009 at 10:32
Big Raddy
Henry told him that aswell before he left barca lol
January 31, 2009 at 10:33
This has been an insane transfer window.
January 31, 2009 at 10:34
Morning Raddy – I have really missed Thomas, I think he is a cracking player with great skill and a bloomin good shot. One of a few who isn’t frightened to shoot outside the box, I loved those two he scored against L’pool – oh I hope is back for good…
January 31, 2009 at 10:35
Hi raif – how you doing
January 31, 2009 at 10:35
I love TH14. Wouldn’t it be great if he came back . I hope he takes his coaching exams.
January 31, 2009 at 10:35
rico he might take a shot but he don’t score many
January 31, 2009 at 10:36
Hi Rico. How is your garden growing …. ?
January 31, 2009 at 10:37
Off to the game today with a spring in my step.Dont think AA will sign on the pitch before kick off though,as AFC would lose revenue from the bars and shops.I can just imagine us standing to cheer him and the stewards telling us to sit down.
January 31, 2009 at 10:37
Morning BigR / Rico – didn’t I read somewhere that when Wenger explained why he wanted Arsahavin he also said that TR was 6 – 8 weeks away? Presumably that was form a reserve appearance. Do you think he will make a first team appearance this season (CL final maybe
)
January 31, 2009 at 10:37
Which one is he on then guys – one has not long landed
Sat 31 January 2009
09:50 BG017 DHAKA VIA DUBAI LANDED 0938 Terminal three
11:35 CO9891 DUBAI EXPECTED 1122 Terminal three
11:35 EK001 DUBAI EXPECTED 1122 Terminal three
13:30 CO9899 DUBAI EXPECTED 1314 Terminal three
13:30 EK029 DUBAI EXPECTED 1314 Terminal three
14:00 AA6418 DUBAI EXPECTED 1341 Terminal five
14:00 BA108 DUBAI EXPECTED 1341 Terminal five
14:05 VS401 DUBAI EXPECTED 1324 Terminal three
15:30 BA104 DUBAI EXPECTED 1514 Terminal five
18:15 EK003 DUBAI Terminal three
20:15 EK005 DUBAI Terminal three
January 31, 2009 at 10:38
hi rico im good love. just looking to going to the game today,
i got my Arsenal Jacket out of the Air Tight Vualt. and ready to be on my back hehe.,
Raddy, ill take TH14 in a heart beat
January 31, 2009 at 10:39
JD – Thats harsh …
Raddy – mme, good question, they are both in it as we speak, but I have put pots over the flowers and bulbs….
raif – I hope its middle of March, just in time for the fight on for the EPL
January 31, 2009 at 10:40
It looks like citeh are cranking up the offers for Kolo. If he has to go I’d take 6 mil plus Micah Richards
January 31, 2009 at 10:41
hey rico .. hope you are doing well…
hmmm… i think its the emirates flight surely? heheh
January 31, 2009 at 10:42
Rico, remember this is Arsenal and the poor guy is paying part of his transfer fee, so he is probably on a budget flight to Istanbul, and then to save money is transfering to an Easyjet flight via Riga to Paris, then on the Eurostar to London. Wont be here till tomorrow.
January 31, 2009 at 10:42
£15m for Kolo is silly money… and would be too much to turn down for AFC I tink..
January 31, 2009 at 10:42
Hi Rasp – I hope he doesnt go, but I like your view if he does, I think Richards needs a new challenge, its obvious City dont want him anymore, and it would be good to have an AFC fan playing for the club
Enjoy the game Raif, its bloomin cold out there
January 31, 2009 at 10:42
a Kolo / Micah Richards deal could happen on Dead Line Day.
January 31, 2009 at 10:43
Can Micah Richards play CM?
January 31, 2009 at 10:43
Morning Choy – good thanks, you ?
emirates flight, good one
January 31, 2009 at 10:44
lol pat
January 31, 2009 at 10:44
What I dont understand is, MC have all the money, why Kolo ??
January 31, 2009 at 10:44
AW likes adapting players to new positions so maybe Richards could become our midfield enforcer……stranger things have happened!
January 31, 2009 at 10:44
I think we would be crazy to turn down 15m for Kolo. I would use the money on Alonso and shift Song back to cover as a CB (He is a better CB than CM)
January 31, 2009 at 10:44
They should make a telly series on Arsenal transfer sagas and soap operas!!!
January 31, 2009 at 10:45
slim, but most soaps dont go on for that long !!
January 31, 2009 at 10:45
Nice Choy. I am sure you’re right. !
January 31, 2009 at 10:45
has to be an emirates flight EK xyz
January 31, 2009 at 10:46
m good rico.. thank you… its matchday……….. wooooo…
people going to the games should wear these
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January 31, 2009 at 10:46
slimshady
they should make it like TV series 24. that would be insane haha
January 31, 2009 at 10:46
Guys im just back from a trip away. Guess who I saw at Heathrow airport?
January 31, 2009 at 10:47
Hey.. BR.. how you doing?
January 31, 2009 at 10:47
Right all, if you are off to the game, hope its a good one, wrap up warm…. nagging old woman talking
For the rest off us, lets hope its a good stream..
Got to go and play with a Dyson!!
Catch you later
January 31, 2009 at 10:47
franchise.. was it eboue?
January 31, 2009 at 10:48
pat – he is probably walking
January 31, 2009 at 10:59
so whos gong to the S&B today?
January 31, 2009 at 11:01
Wasn’t Song in depatures by any chance Franchise?
January 31, 2009 at 11:02
Lack of success would clear out the glory hunters
http://www.clubfanzine.com/arsenal/v2.showNews.php?id=17698
have you read this tripe ?
yes great idea , lets get rid of all the fans with passion and drive for glory and have the stadium filled with 60 000 AKB cheering for song and eboue
and applaud ade’s 80k a week pay rise for doing squat !
lets all celebrate our departure from C.L football ! and playing big teams like barca and real , AC etc …
i dont normally pick on other blogs in fact i never do, its usually them picking on me, but i can tell ya what a fucking pea brain calling for fans who are basically AKB !
as a fellow fan you should never tell someone to support another team ! unless your really pissed at 1 individual and want to insult them into rage, i think the motives and tone of this article is total and utter shite !Do the world a favor and if you love TA so much and go support pompey then ….
is it an invitation for a mass exodus of our fans to join rival london clubs then ?
pompey maybe ?
what precisely are you trying to fucking say ..
what a gimp !
January 31, 2009 at 11:06
i hope they parade andrei arshavin today, give the gunners fans more boost and the team a lift
January 31, 2009 at 11:07
Arseblog has a story that Spurs sold tickets to Arsenal fans at £10 less than they intended to.
Can anyone confirm?
If so that’s hilarious! Small payback for the Carling CUp Semi scandall of 07!!
January 31, 2009 at 11:07
for next week’s derby I should add
January 31, 2009 at 11:07
I did read that Ethan, infact I have reread it about 6 times.
But I cant quite work out if he is actually classing the AKB’s as the glory hunters and wants them out, or the ones that are critical
He backs up the booing of Eboue in the article and also slates the policy of fans being able to text a steward to complain about his colourful swearing.
I am not sure but I think his post is against those who think that Wenger can do no wrong.
January 31, 2009 at 11:10
SO what do people think of Wenger’s escuse of not buying a DM? (even though he said we needed one in the summer!!)
Its abit like owning a house with a dodgy front door. Instead of buying a new one and solving your security issues you go an buy some fancy wallpaper first
January 31, 2009 at 11:11
Ethan. I think you missunderstand that article. It comes accross as getting rid of akbs and keeping people like legrove readers. he talks about high ticket prices, booing the stewards etc.
January 31, 2009 at 11:12
I thought it was bullshit Maqitlarge.
How can he say that Diaby and Song have made great progress!!!!!!! I think it is a bit insulting to the paying public that have to watch their shambolic performances week in week out. Was actally watching the Everton game. I have not seen a player rating on either blogs or in the media that gave either player above 5
January 31, 2009 at 11:12
Ethan he’s probably a fan of yours!! lol
January 31, 2009 at 11:14
yeah guys i ran into an old friend i hadnt seen for 6 years
January 31, 2009 at 11:14
Funny that Ethan, the moron would class me as a glory hunter because I’ve probably spent 10 times what he has over the years, been thrown out twice for bad language amongst other things but write a blog that’s read by more people than his blog, so does that make us the real fans because we want to win, or him? that seem delighted with 5th and no trophies, wanker.
Raddy quite right mate and Jules yes.
January 31, 2009 at 11:16
i agree with cutting out colorful behavior , i mean i wouldnt want my son listening to some fan sitting next to him shouting out ade a prick even if he is one !
and if that’s the sort of fan he is , he should Barr himself from the games ..
Totally pointless article , and like you said hard to follow , but to even say im glad we are diminishing in stature so a lot of fans should leave and ill be happier for it is just plain wrong !!!
what the fuck is the point in building a new stadium and then wanting half the mothers to not come back !!!
we might as well stayed at highbury and kept all our decent players !
January 31, 2009 at 11:17
that tony adams blog guy is a fool. kinda chating out his arse aint he..
geoff maybe it was him who text the steward about the bad language. but i dont think his been to many games
January 31, 2009 at 11:19
Haven’t posted on here for ages but feeling good today (dispite the hangover). I think we will have our new signing holding up his new shirt before the match, i’m heading up early to day justin case.
If he does sign any idea what number he will get? Shame the 10 shirt isn’t free.
January 31, 2009 at 11:21
Hej hej Skandi, good moron! du var rolig forra veckan
I am actually learning swedish as I write…
I am popping down the S&B b4 lunch around 12:30 Raif
Morning Grovers! Arseblogger is a twunt, because he called people like me a twunt for calling AW a twunt on his arsecast? Why we are all acting like twunts?
We desperatly need a signing, I would have prefered a solid CB and CDM rather than Arshavin though, but beggers can’t be choosers and a signing is a signing I suppose.
Question of the day, where do the spuds get their limitless money from! I knoe their owner is loaded but even he has lost half his fortune and he still outspends Roman???
January 31, 2009 at 11:21
GM
it was a bit boring so i thought id point out this article and tear him a new one
but i cant condone losing any fan !
and i think to even mention go join another club is the makings of an AKB !
its a bigger stadium the atmosphere has changed obviously , the team has changed also .. (for the worse ) .. but dont turn on fans … they pay for the board to drive around in stretch limo’s and crap players we own ..
we lose our fans and you might as well call us the spuds with a 31 % non – renewable season ticket ..
January 31, 2009 at 11:24
MM
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January 31, 2009 at 11:27
hey read this .. i bet you guys have ..
Zenit and move to the Premier League and Gunners boss Arsene Wenger would be delighted to have him at the club.
“He’s a guy who can go past people in the final third … He can have the key, individually and collectively … He is an experienced player, 27, a good age and we are a very young side. We will not have Fabregas in the next six to eight weeks, we will not have Walcott in the next five weeks, Rosicky in the next eight weeks.”
January 31, 2009 at 11:28
“He’s a guy who can go past people in the final third .
hmmm … ade can you hear the grinding axe now son ???
it will be an auspicious day for me !
January 31, 2009 at 11:29
grinding ….
wow i am so happy with the news he’s coming to london im letting my spelling slip
January 31, 2009 at 11:30
But a Football stadium will always have a bit of colourful language, it comes with the territory.
But what they should do is make areas of the ground where it is almost deemed acceptable, like the North Bank for instance. If you take your kids in there then you should expect them to hear colourful language. like it loath it, 20k fans calling a lino or an opposition a cunt adds to the atmosphere and builds an intimidating atmosphere. it is all part of being the 12 man in my books
and likewise you have family areas to take the children into. I think the Club need to sit back and look at sectioning the ground better and arsenalising it to build it as our home rather than a venue.
January 31, 2009 at 11:30
Who is slagging Geoff off?
January 31, 2009 at 11:31
This is the day I look forward to with a mixture of hop and dread (the better half supports West Ham). the first time we went to THOF together was the day Big Sol went walkabout – I hope Robert Green has an off-day … payback time
January 31, 2009 at 11:31
Pat, I’ll write a bit about that tomorrow… different kettle of fish at Goodison.
January 31, 2009 at 11:31
The number 10 shirt should be made available.
Merson moved asisde when Bergkamp came so I dont see why Gallas cant. He should never had it in the first place
January 31, 2009 at 11:32
Oops … hope and dread!
January 31, 2009 at 11:32
Ramos is having a blinder…
‘I can’t get Pennant… damn… how else can I fuck up this Madrid team? Ahhh! Faubert!’
January 31, 2009 at 11:32
no one pedro , just talking about a certain article which is a waste of bandwidth.
January 31, 2009 at 11:33
Think there is a good chance of upsetting every one sitting around me today, i’ve had a bad week at work and i’m going to sing my heart out. don’t care if i’m on my own!
January 31, 2009 at 11:33
One of those, ‘Are you a real fan’ types?
They are so boring… I think we have enough to talk about at Arsenal without slagging the fans off…
January 31, 2009 at 11:34
Morning pedro
January 31, 2009 at 11:34
Arshavin agent says 20% chance of him joining Arsenal. Denies reports that Arshavin is on his way to London.http://timesonline.typepad.com/fanzine_fanzone/2009/01/arsenal-arshavi.html
January 31, 2009 at 11:35
Look forward to it Pedro,
I really dont see the harm in it. I grew up going to football and hearing the colourful language and have had no lasting damage. It is a passionate sport. I could expect it at Wimbledon Tennis but not at the Emirates.
They do need to section it though as I can understand that some people will want to take their family into a family area. I just remember always wanting to be in the home end when I was in the family area but each to their own.
January 31, 2009 at 11:35
nice post,that wood be class if that happened.
Can i say this is the best arsenal blog about
(Wrighty 7 is good to)and always look forward reading what yous have to say every day
Keep up the good work lads
come on you reds we need a good win today
January 31, 2009 at 11:35
Good to hear MM…!
I’m going to upset the stewards by banging my drum… sorry… I mean the advertising hoardings.
January 31, 2009 at 11:35
http://timesonline.typepad.com/fanzine_fanzone/2009/01/arsenal-arshavi.html
January 31, 2009 at 11:35
AA has is a Outcast at Zenit. there is NO WAY IN HELL he could go back. i think his dying to get this deal over and done with
January 31, 2009 at 11:37
In the old days they used to stick the kids in the schoolboy enclosure in the east stand, I went in there a few times in the 70’s.
Fuck me the language was just as bad in there, it’s what started me off.
January 31, 2009 at 11:38
Pat… tell me a man out there that takes their kid to Arsenal and doesn’t expect to hear swearing? It’s all part of growing up…’Don’t tell mum’ type stuff…
I bet the same parents who complain about it are fine with their kids playing graphically violent computer games at home…
The hypocrisy of it all!
January 31, 2009 at 11:38
Glad you like it Tuder! Keep posting son.
January 31, 2009 at 11:39
I disagree with patthegooner Gallas shouldn’t be stripped off the number 10 but strip him of the captainship armband and then his chosen number? Then push him out of the team!!! I think Wenger knows the implication of asking him if he will want to drop the numer talk less of striping him off it.
http://soccerfanbase.com
January 31, 2009 at 11:39
Lewyd24
To be honest, I have seen similar on other Arsenal blogs over the last 24 hours. A lot of people are claiming that they have Lachters number and have been printing similar.
Do you something and I cant believe I am saying this, but this whole saga has been so fucked up that I actually will only believe it when it is on Arsenal.com. And I fucking hate that saying.
The story would not surprise me though, this time two weeks ago Upson was having a medical!!!!!
January 31, 2009 at 11:41
Exactly Pedro and I would definately take my kids into the home end.
You do need a family area though.
January 31, 2009 at 11:41
Pedro.
i agree definitely. “Don’t tell mum’ type stuff…” lol
its all part of going to football, its down to MUM/DAD and how they bring the kid up with whats right and wrong.
as Kids are more likly to pick things up at school then going to football matches
January 31, 2009 at 11:42
Right… I’ve just read the headline you were talking about.
So… a real fan wishes failure on their team to clear out glory hunters?
Fantastic logic… lets fail, lose a chunk of the fanbase… lose revenue… stop great players wanting to play for us… and sit mid table with great fans.
What a load of bollocks.
I don’t believe in the glory hunter anyway… I don’t know anyone who glory hunts… that is what kids do… and they are the fans Arsenal need to target to ensure their future.
January 31, 2009 at 11:43
infact lewd that story is in the Fanzone and I believe that the guy that posted it is the same one that posted the very same on Gooner Talk over the last few days.
I am not saying it is bullshit but likewise I have no reason to believe it.
January 31, 2009 at 11:43
PTG its one hell of an emotional rollercoaster. This shit is actually bad for your health.
January 31, 2009 at 11:44
pat
so correct … i dont mind a bit of colour myself
, probably more than most , but if your sitting next to some granny or some hot dolly bird or even a small child you should be observant enough to realize you might piss people off !
Like you said a return of a HARD CORE section of the crowd and sectioning off to suit would be smart , i love hecklers in the crowd myself, i think its one of the greatest facets at being at the game ,but i wouldnt throw out an ETHAN ONE LINER if i knew the stewards are going too drag my ass out the door ! ..
or more importantly turn up next week and see the same angry faces sitting next to you .who got you thrown out to begin with .
the article was plain pointless crap IMO !
and i dont really condone boo’ing either ..
well not my own team ! others ..fine !
with ade i might be tempted also
thankfully i havent booked my ticket too the UK yet ..
thankgod AA has
or not ?????????
http://timesonline.typepad.com/fanzine_fanzone/2009/01/arsenal-arshavi.html
WTF ?
January 31, 2009 at 11:44
Pat, I’d steer clear of the away games… I think you’d have some awkward questions to answer after about ten minutes!
January 31, 2009 at 11:45
Why Pedro,
I agree with you on the Colourful language
January 31, 2009 at 11:47
Pat… the language and songs made me wince at the away game.
I’m pretty sure if I wrote some of them on here, I’d get arrested!
January 31, 2009 at 11:48
precisely pedro !
see thats why you write blogs …
a total poetic vibe to your last post
you say more in 10 lines than i can say in 10 posts
oh thats right .. my posts are always 1 liners anyhow arent they
so its the same in effect 
(private joke )
January 31, 2009 at 11:49
So Lachter has denied Arshavin is flying in and the deal is 80% not happening.
Cos-bloody- mic.
January 31, 2009 at 11:52
Paulinho… if you believe that someone really was texting Latcher.
Sounds like a load of old bollocks to me…
Cheers Ethan… you are the master of the one liner… no doubt about it! haha!
January 31, 2009 at 11:52
Everyone was basing it on this David Livingstone guy( a golf presenter) being right. He’s hardly Dan Roan.
January 31, 2009 at 11:53
Paulinho… Geoff Knows…
January 31, 2009 at 11:53
so he was 90 % here , now he 80 % isnt …
W H A T T H E F U C K IS G O I N G ON !!!?
i still feel that wenger is talking like he has already joined us , im still confident that all the signs are there that we will still secure his signature ..
January 31, 2009 at 11:55
I will bow to Geoff greater knowledge here.
*begins zen meditation*
January 31, 2009 at 11:56
To be honest I am bored of it all
All of the excitement of your club buying a player has been ripped out of the whole saga. It is going to be a huge anti-climax now.
All I know is there is a massive fucking rant brewing for Tuesday morning if nothing happens.
January 31, 2009 at 12:00
wenger does a lot of things , but he doesn’t talk about a player in that tone unless he is in the bank ..
January 31, 2009 at 12:00
Hello
I believe David Livingstone – he used to be a Dr……
January 31, 2009 at 12:03
I think Wigan will tough it out for a draw
Bolton will beat Spurs
And we will beat West Ham
January 31, 2009 at 12:03
until ashivin has acualy signed this all means nothing and at this point all he is tlking to arsenal and there is no garantee arsenal will want stump the extra money but knowing arsenal board and wenger i cant help but scepticle
January 31, 2009 at 12:03
Will 3 o’clock ever come?
January 31, 2009 at 12:04
Pat
i know what you mean
wenger has taken the fun out of a new signing .
thats the truth .. he buys them young, never being ready for the 1st team , we see them blossom , ok sometimes its rewarding like jack , but usually you see all our great players leave and think wenger will replace him surely ..
waiting ….
waiting …………
im still waiting ..
January 31, 2009 at 12:06
Are Arsenal sure it’s a good idea to bring him to the game today?
If he watches us struggling to string a pass together he might do runner at the altar!
Or ask for more wages knowing how much we need him.
January 31, 2009 at 12:10
wenger just loves all these long term holes in our line ups doesnt he ???
we went a season or 2 with no real wingers ..
now we have gone a season with no DM
and a goalie who’s best season was behind him ..
a serious lack of upfront power since the departure of TH14
the team is a fucking train wreck to be honest .
theres nothing about this youth project that is working .. and that makes me think wenger cant be happy with the restrictions he was working under …
i mean before lets buy pires – freddie .. dudu – hleb – sagna ..
now even his high profile signings like narsi are only 20 years old ..
these arent the actions of a man with abundant resources !
January 31, 2009 at 12:10
Hello Gunner8 – off to the game myself, and looking forward to it.
Not reading anymore ‘links’ I prefer to ‘beleive’. Quotes by various ‘papers’, ‘media pundits’ etc., don’t cut it with me at the moment. What is the time difference with Dubai and UK? Enjoy a good game everyone, and here’s hoping for some goals and not waiting until 89th minute as per normal.
January 31, 2009 at 12:31
ethaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
January 31, 2009 at 12:32
whos going to the s and b today ?
will try to get there if poss if ok
January 31, 2009 at 12:36
If you think this is bad imagine if we arshavin and lachters the one negotiating him a new contract in 2 years!
the mans nuts
January 31, 2009 at 12:36
the deadline is monday 5pm close of pay… so u dont have to wait till midnight
January 31, 2009 at 12:37
If you think this is bad imagine if we sign arshavin and lachters the one negotiating him a new contract in 2 years!
the mans nuts
January 31, 2009 at 12:42
i was hoping to Drop by aswell to the S&b
January 31, 2009 at 12:45
Is anyone really bothered what % the agent puts on the transfer? He’s spouted guff for 30 whole days now!
The player is on a plane to London from Dubai. The clubs have agreed a fee. Wenger wants the player for his final third attirbutes.
I’m not one for %’s when there’s no formula to apply, but if I was made to, I’d suggest its slightly more than 20%
The agent is clearly trying to coin his player (himself really) as much as possible by putting doubt in the air.
Anyway, its a game day today. Only players that matter today are on the pitch wearing red and white.
Come on the Arsenal
January 31, 2009 at 12:51
sorry i am going on rant
i just so angry the mear fact that in question that arsenal are going to finish in top 4 wenger should sacked, arsenal out of the title race and its not evon half way the season and he still under presue from the board and he is comming out saying that he wont break is set budget to stegthen the squad and evon worse the charman comming saying that arsenal not finishing top 4 is end of the world some people need to be sacked
January 31, 2009 at 12:52
hey franchise !
you got to love wengers quotes pre – match dont you
“We had a difficult game on Wednesday night, but we are on a good run and I am not concerned.
“This team has overcome a lot of criticism and have a strong character. I am very positive and believe very strongly in my squad – why should we consider all of the negative aspects of the season?
January 31, 2009 at 12:53
why because we have sucked for a large majority of it …
that would be my come back …
January 31, 2009 at 12:57
That “I believe in my squad” bollocks is really starting to get on my tits
you only have to look at results, performances, effort, desire and the PL table to see that it is misguided belief
I think you translate his words into “I am clutching at straws with my squad”
January 31, 2009 at 12:57
gday all,
im on top of the world, just completed the Sydney Harbour Bridge Climb and the Arse will sign today coupled with a 4-0 – definitely top o’ the world material!
January 31, 2009 at 12:59
ethan hi
i remember our several heated ade debates
well, he has almost lost me as an admirer
which means u were quite spot on
January 31, 2009 at 13:04
but u cried wolf a bit too early
may be u r a clairvoyant
January 31, 2009 at 13:06
The latest in the Saga
He is on a plane but one bound for St Petersburg
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jan/31/arsenal-andrei-arshavin-transfer-window
What a fucking load of SHIT
January 31, 2009 at 13:08
The agent says he is flying back to St Petersburg.
January 31, 2009 at 13:08
After a shit day yesterday, It’s good to see Grovers getting excited again.
January 31, 2009 at 13:10
It’s a piss take Pat.
The whole thing was based on some random sky sports presenter holidaying in Dubai and putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with five, probably after a night on the lash.
January 31, 2009 at 13:22
Tottenham have already sold Giovani Dos Santos to Portsmouth for £7m after the Mexican midfielder failed to impress at White Hart Lane. (Sun)
January 31, 2009 at 13:24
theres about to be red in the wigan man citeh game
January 31, 2009 at 13:24
Delap red for kicking SWP. wanker
January 31, 2009 at 13:28
Stoke fans are just booing and whistling bronx cheers for the last 5 minutes flat out
January 31, 2009 at 13:32
good day all!i am almost allowing myself to become excited about this deal now. Why would Wenger go on record saying what a difference Arshavin could make, if he wasn’t in the bag? It doesn’t compute. Either Wenger is losing it, or we have signed Arshavin. Er, so that means we’ve signed him, I think.
January 31, 2009 at 13:37
unfucking believable, stoke just scored! 1-0 up with 10 men!
January 31, 2009 at 13:39
im pumped for a 4-0 whipping of the hammers today!
January 31, 2009 at 13:39
Ha ha…..thats hilarious. I hope City loses.
January 31, 2009 at 13:42
they are so shite! Hopefully the crowd can get them home in the 2nd half!
never heard so much booing by a set of fans than that last 15 mins – each time SWP or Richards go the ball it went up about 100 decibels!
January 31, 2009 at 13:42
We wont be signing the russian,it has all been a scam from january 1st.
January 31, 2009 at 13:43
they are so shite – Citeh! Hopefully the crowd can get Stoke home in the 2nd half!
never heard so much booing by a set of fans than that last 15 mins – each time SWP or Richards got the ball it went up about 100 decibels!
January 31, 2009 at 13:52
i’d just take a win Evo….. and cmon the stoke!!
January 31, 2009 at 13:52
Arsenal (from): Almunia, Sagna, Toure, Gallas, Clichy, Nasri, Denilson, Song, Eboue, Adebayor, van Persie, Fabianski, Djourou, Diaby, Vela, Ramsey, Bendtner, Gibbs, Wilshere.
January 31, 2009 at 13:53
i concur benno, 3 points is a must. 1-0 would be fine!
January 31, 2009 at 13:55
booing from us was louder against liverfool when ade got sent off? that was mental
January 31, 2009 at 13:57
franchise
he never looked like arsenal material to me franchise that’s all ….
we are an attacking team who for the past full calender year now has been firing blanks ..
(apart from RVP recently)
it took RVP coming to form to show us that !
and just imagine if we had 2 focused strikers fronting us !! -its been my dream …
intelligent passing, the ability to get around a man .. shooting straight might be an advantage also ..
(job pre-requisites for an arsenal striker )
yeah pat might want to vouch for me being a clairvoyant also
Last years midfeild really was something special , not special individually but as a force-unit they cut open a defense like a tin opener…
ade was just the lucky striker fit for a season to capitalize ..
its a real shame RVP was out that year ..
but its also a bigger shame wenger didnt push harder to sell him when he could have cashed in with AC ! .. and did the scam of the decade …
infact i think ac did take that honor with sheva
and they did inquire about ade if i remember .. but wenger came back with a ludicrous figure that stopped them in there tracks ..
damn shame that , we could of got villa plus had a spare 5 mil for ramsey too boot !
but villa signed an extension now so im sure the price tag is way out of wengers reach .
January 31, 2009 at 13:58
hughesy (used to play for barca) looks like a man waiting for the gallows i fuckin love it
January 31, 2009 at 14:10
Any team news?
January 31, 2009 at 14:20
Manuel Almunia
Bacary Sagna
Kolo Toure
William Gallas
Gael Clichy
Emmanuel Eboue
Abou Diaby
Denilson
Samir Nasri
Emmanuel Adebayor
Nicklas Bendtner
Substitutes
Robin Van Persie
Carlos Vela
Aaron Ramsey
January 31, 2009 at 14:22
van persie…on the..bench..bendtner..eboue…lose
January 31, 2009 at 14:26
what no place for arshavin
January 31, 2009 at 14:29
Hello!
Ethan, I have read Your yesterday’s post about Arsenal economic situation,and with all respect to You, can’t belive that we are that skint.100 from Emirates deal, plus deal with Nike, plus 3 milion per match from Emirates,tv revenue, that’s a huge income.I think that we have at least 25 milion to spend in this window, and if Wenger wants to add another couple of milions he should have get rid of Song and Diaby.
Arshavin-15 milion
Kolo- 15 milion, Song and Diaby=6 milion.
Hangeland-9 milion
Veloso-12 milion
Elementry, my dear Watson.
As for today’s game 2:1 to West Ham.Sorry guys, but we are pants this season.
January 31, 2009 at 14:29
cole is going to have a field day without djorou
January 31, 2009 at 14:32
has anyone seen or heard the helicopter yet?
January 31, 2009 at 14:35
Afternoon folks – we feeling confident?
January 31, 2009 at 14:36
van persie on the bench???????????????? when hes in the form of his life,,,,,,why??
& eboue starts..wenger is winding me up..!!!!!!!
January 31, 2009 at 14:38
citeh are shite!
January 31, 2009 at 14:38
No Djourou,no Van Persie, Eboue instead of Vela= another dull match and probably a draw at best.
January 31, 2009 at 14:40
Subs: Fabianski, Van Persie, Vela, Ramsey, Song Billong, Djourou, Gibbs
January 31, 2009 at 14:40
crazy..wengers lost it…..u rest vp in the week if anything…unbelievable
January 31, 2009 at 14:40
Toure & Gallas?? – thought Wenger was done with putting these two together cos it didn’t work!!!
ARRRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not a great line-up at all but lets hope it works out
January 31, 2009 at 14:42
he obviously doesnt think there is a height worry with west ham as he is going with the 2 6 footers in central defense, otherwise Djourou should have been in there!
January 31, 2009 at 14:43
our 2 best players recently…dropped…nice 1 wenger
January 31, 2009 at 14:44
fuck the FC camel jockeys, stoke win, you fucken beauty!
January 31, 2009 at 14:44
This game is on Setanta Ireland. I hope they forget to encrypt the channel
January 31, 2009 at 14:47
Have to agree,RVP has been our one bright consistant star this month,and he puts him on the bench.
Surprised to see Toure/Gallas
Our boss never ceases to amaze me(us)
January 31, 2009 at 14:51
Hey Arsene I have a fucking idea, drop Ade instead ? Yeah ? Yeah ?
January 31, 2009 at 14:52
hey everyone, please can someone post a link for the game when yu find one! Cheers
January 31, 2009 at 14:53
7 minutes till the helicopter lands
January 31, 2009 at 14:55
5 mins to eta
January 31, 2009 at 14:57
What an awful side. This could be very, very ugly.
January 31, 2009 at 15:02
we are nothing compared to what we once were under wenger, injuries aside..such a poor team today
January 31, 2009 at 15:02
Anyone have a link to watch the great (not so great l8ly) gunners smack west ham???
January 31, 2009 at 15:04
WHY THE FUCK IS JD NOT PLAYING!!!!!!
AND WHERE IS RVP!!!!!!!
At least song isnt playing right.
January 31, 2009 at 15:05
You know. despite his height, im pretty sure that thats Diabys first header in a game.
January 31, 2009 at 15:06
Good pass Eboue….good pass..
January 31, 2009 at 15:07
myp2p.eu
January 31, 2009 at 15:07
Eboue is doing well so far. I just wish he wasnt given the free role.
January 31, 2009 at 15:07
Sopcast channel 69470
January 31, 2009 at 15:07
WHERE ARE YOU WATCHING???
January 31, 2009 at 15:08
Denilson is just not intelligent enough.
January 31, 2009 at 15:08
Now hes even shooting!! Whats going on here???
January 31, 2009 at 15:10
I agree David. He is a fine 2nd choice, reserve player buit not good enough to play CM in such a big club. I mean he and Diaby should be controlling games but they just dont.
January 31, 2009 at 15:10
If this side to side crab nonsense doesnt work…try the facking long ball…its saved our hides the last game….Hoping the pink boots scores in this one..
January 31, 2009 at 15:10
thanks gambon
January 31, 2009 at 15:12
The front two havent gotten settled yet, loose touched and bad passes.
David, we didnt score from a long ball against Everton.
January 31, 2009 at 15:12
Thanks gambon… any link … where u do not need to download something?
January 31, 2009 at 15:13
started well i think, bendtners first touch could improve though
January 31, 2009 at 15:13
Stu – we did. long ball from Diaby to Rvp
January 31, 2009 at 15:13
Yes stu
But diaby is slow….maybe not in intelligence but in body language…and Denilson…well he’s just slow in mind/body/soul….
Arsene has gone ragging mad….the man that saved our season time and time again is not playing…who the fack is going take our Eboue free kicks??/ NAsri?
January 31, 2009 at 15:14
Eboue is supposed to be the right sided midfielder, providing an outlet for the players in the middle but when he comes inside he leaves Sagna out wide marked by 2 hammers. Thats poor play imo. He should know better than that.
January 31, 2009 at 15:16
Irish, no we didnt. Diaby dinked a 30yard pass onto Van Persies chest. Hardly a classic long ball that usually comes from the defence.
long pass not a long ball.
January 31, 2009 at 15:18
What does it matter stu??? Sagna cant cross to save a coin in shallow water. O and apparently neither can denilson.
This is a game where Vela would shine..
January 31, 2009 at 15:18
Stu – fair enough, see what you are getting at. I just meant it wasn’t our usual 100 passes before we took a shot – the nearest we get to a long ball!!
January 31, 2009 at 15:19
Great play Nasri!! He doesnt do that enough.
January 31, 2009 at 15:19
Stu
Diaby was in midfield…juss about the midfield line…thats a long ball
January 31, 2009 at 15:21
Come on pink boots
January 31, 2009 at 15:21
David, normally i would completely agree but Sagna has put in a great cross already today.
Ouch nik.
January 31, 2009 at 15:23
Still wasnt a long ball in the usual sense.
Ade is some lazy fecker!
January 31, 2009 at 15:24
Well done Diaby – you’re out of the spuds game – brilliant
January 31, 2009 at 15:24
I would feel so much better with Vela on the left….I am actually worried.
January 31, 2009 at 15:25
Diaby cant and never could tackle for shit.
The only sccessful tackle hes ever made was in the CCfinal against JTs face.
January 31, 2009 at 15:26
Is there no one in the team that can see an early pass???
ANother horric cross from Sagna…
Stu
I think you spoke too soon
January 31, 2009 at 15:28
Sagna’s crossing is poor
January 31, 2009 at 15:29
We’d juss be better off taking shots on goal…this side to side/crossing nonsense is embarrassing.
January 31, 2009 at 15:30
Eboue has returned to his usual self.
January 31, 2009 at 15:31
Whos on the bench?
January 31, 2009 at 15:32
Eboue isn’t half the player that Vela is – I don’t know what he’s got to do to get a chance. AW says he wants Arshavin because he can go past players – well Vela can do that…..
January 31, 2009 at 15:32
Eboues coming off???
Knee injury.
January 31, 2009 at 15:33
Spuds losing!!
January 31, 2009 at 15:33
eboues playing second striker wtf
January 31, 2009 at 15:34
Eboue is playing whereever the wind takes him! He doesnt have a position.
January 31, 2009 at 15:34
Honestly how does Arsene find them? Did he see Eboue somewhere and decided that this was his RM for the future???
If he’s injured we should get him off then…
January 31, 2009 at 15:35
VELA FOR EBOUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 31, 2009 at 15:35
Hooray…come on Vela…prove me right
January 31, 2009 at 15:35
O i dont believe it.
O Thank Heavens….VELA!
January 31, 2009 at 15:36
will somebody please post me link for the game!
January 31, 2009 at 15:37
VELA!
January 31, 2009 at 15:37
WTF Bendtner to right mid???
Wenger is a knob!
January 31, 2009 at 15:37
I’m on footyonline dh – you have to pay but its not expensive
January 31, 2009 at 15:37
YESSSSSSS, Carlito Vela is coming on for Ebouueeee.
January 31, 2009 at 15:37
Wow 2 second and the kid dances around two defenders….
Arsene is raging mad.
January 31, 2009 at 15:38
Vel’s 1st contribution and he goes past players – hallelujah
January 31, 2009 at 15:38
Eboue isnt injured, it was a nothing challenge, he gave the ball away a couple times and heard the crowd getting restless so doesnt want to be booed….Harry Kewell style!
Still good to have vela on
January 31, 2009 at 15:39
Nasri is our SS???
Whaa???
January 31, 2009 at 15:39
Must be this so:
Denilson Diaby
Nasri
Nik Ade Vela
January 31, 2009 at 15:40
You can’t tell if Eboue’s injured – he looks like he’s been crippled every time he gets touched
January 31, 2009 at 15:40
Gambon, he is defo injured. His foot got caught in the turf and he knee was clattered into.
January 31, 2009 at 15:40
Wow…Already Bendtner and Vela doing the good stuff….
January 31, 2009 at 15:40
chees rasputin
January 31, 2009 at 15:40
Adebayor hasn’t a clue where to run.
January 31, 2009 at 15:41
Samir pulled a hamstring or whaa?
January 31, 2009 at 15:43
How many times when Ade goes up to head a long ball forward does he actually manage to find one of our players – not enough. He lacks awareness of where other players are around him
January 31, 2009 at 15:43
Stop Facking Trying to CROSS WITH SAGNA IM TIRED OF SEEING THIS SHITE!
January 31, 2009 at 15:45
I can see this working.
Ade will (hopefully) flourish because he is the focal point of the attack like in a 4-5-1.
Bendtner will have more space on the right. Vela will run at defenders on the left and Nasri will have the free role which he should like.
January 31, 2009 at 15:47
It would be fucking typical if they scored first.
January 31, 2009 at 15:48
That one lonesome corner theyve had friends is better than any shot we’ve had all game…Arsenal FC has been turned to a joke.
January 31, 2009 at 15:50
Not so good – Nik and Ade are just poo!!
January 31, 2009 at 15:50
this is dire
January 31, 2009 at 15:51
Bendtner has been a lot better than Adebayor. Ade hasnt done a fecking thing!
January 31, 2009 at 15:52
Ha ha they said on Setanta “Not too many supporters tend to leave here (Emirates) too early” ha ha
January 31, 2009 at 15:52
Not easy to play against a resolute defence but bar the last few minutes,ade,bedtner,denilson have provided no or little football ability.Clichy is again vunerable by not holding his line.
maybe rvp is on the bench as he is on 4 yellows.
half time report more commitment required,must try harder.
January 31, 2009 at 15:52
January 31, 2009 at 15:52
It’s like the players feel like they’re not entitled to score early. Far too tense.
It doesn’t help when you have players like Denilson passing sideways regardless of the options in front of him and Adebayor making retarded runs and making the people passing to him look like idiots.
We’re playing okay but anything could happen here.
January 31, 2009 at 15:52
nasri and vela to score
January 31, 2009 at 15:53
Its been a tad boring this game
January 31, 2009 at 15:55
We have to spend now, Arsene’s lovechild is injured!
January 31, 2009 at 15:55
least the spuds are losing
January 31, 2009 at 15:55
I just have to say that I fucking hate that fat bastard pat Dolan on Setanta. Fucking HATE HIM!!!!
January 31, 2009 at 15:56
I wonder where that sense of urgency was at Everton.
Its amazing…im sure they can turn it on at any time they juss like the crab Wenger ball…
January 31, 2009 at 15:57
maciek
hey, how are you .. listen the important KEY WORD you need to remember when talking finances and arsenal is a word called BUDGET !
yes 2- or 3 mil a home game – wages etc , all carefully worked out .. all available money within that budget would be used for repayments to reduce the capital of the interest ..
its usually what you do when you want to PAY THINGS OFF
as for 25 million spare how do you figure that when wenger doesnt get a transfer kitty ?
write 25 million off on petty cash ???
hmmmm …
anyway enough on that .. im even putting myself too sleep
January 31, 2009 at 15:57
What we need is B.Mendy…he’s as quick as Clichy
January 31, 2009 at 15:59
Ironically Mendy was once a right back. Think he still is but Hull play him in midfield.
January 31, 2009 at 16:00
Pat Dolan is as thick as shit. He said Djourou was 5 ft 3.
January 31, 2009 at 16:00
Half time talk:
a) Shoot outside the eighteen yard box and rush for a possible deflection.
b) Sagna, try to pick out your attackers when you cross. Its not that hard, is it son?
c) RVP to come on for Ade
d) Clichy show more alertness.
Alright boys get going. I need 1 early goal and you get them attacking then you score the second and the third! Capish?
January 31, 2009 at 16:02
That was eboue’s best 35 minutes ive ever seen him play at RM !
how can the boss pair nik B and ade together ?
they fucking hate each other ! ?
is RVP injured ? is the boss doing a cover up ?
just imagine if RVP is … then we dont sign arshavin !
another PR nightmare waiting to happen !
i think vela looks sharp enough !
sharp enough to replace any number of our SO CALLED REGULARS !
someone injure ade please !!!
wheres Birmingham when you need them ?!
January 31, 2009 at 16:02
Someone should tell Dolan about Rogaine. The puppets have better hair than him.
January 31, 2009 at 16:04
Ethan – I’d reckon RvP is on the bench cos he’s 4 yellow cards
January 31, 2009 at 16:06
Ethan,
Just on cue, they make up before the start of the 2nd half! Would like to see jack at some point in this game though
January 31, 2009 at 16:08
can you honestly tell me after someone head butts you , you can ever call them a friend again ??
please
January 31, 2009 at 16:10
Confidentgoner
yes ive been waiting to see jackie boy all season !!
just like vela, i hope he grabs the situation by the balls and makes a hero of himself tonight i feel tonight could be his lucky break !
January 31, 2009 at 16:11
I think its morew a case of they put their differences aside for the match. I wouldnt forgive Ade for headbutting me but then again I probably would get my own back with annoying pranks etc etc
Why did they argue again?
January 31, 2009 at 16:11
I know, but have you heard our lord’s prayer? These two for all you know will have gotten over that. For their fans its not that easy.
January 31, 2009 at 16:12
Nasri and vela seem to work well
January 31, 2009 at 16:12
Wouldnt it be beautiful if Wishere came on and scored a goal like the one against their reserves. It would be doubly brilliant because he suppoets them, or at least his family do.
January 31, 2009 at 16:12
irish
you could be right but you know wenger has been talking about RVP in the media yesterday about contract signing ….
i think its got more to do with that …
sign or dont play
January 31, 2009 at 16:14
stu
it was because he (ade) said to nik b’ because your shit’ ! thats why i had to come on !
January 31, 2009 at 16:14
The board offered RvP a contract a few months ago but before he could sign or whatever they took it off the table and its yet to be resolved.
January 31, 2009 at 16:15
Jay Simpson scored for West Brom
January 31, 2009 at 16:15
Why don’t we win 50 50 balls anymore?
January 31, 2009 at 16:15
But Ethan, wouldnt that make Bendtner upset and not Ade? Ade threw the head so he was obviously the upset one.
January 31, 2009 at 16:16
Confidentgoner
i put head butting up there with screwing your wife
you can never forgive ! just pretend to forget .
but you can see it when they play together they havent forgot
January 31, 2009 at 16:17
My biggest issue with Ade is that he doesnt even try…when R.V.P would be shooting Ade would be passing it back/wide
January 31, 2009 at 16:18
Vela has been very anonymous in this half.
January 31, 2009 at 16:18
O my Gawd….Piss poor
January 31, 2009 at 16:19
Denilson for captain?
January 31, 2009 at 16:20
why cant Denilson cross the ball properly? thats 2 massively overhit crosses into the box now when we were dominating – 1 in the first half and another one now!
January 31, 2009 at 16:20
seeing as he’s one of the few actually putting in some effort i wudnt diagree stu
January 31, 2009 at 16:20
Ade is fucking horrible!! Worst touch going.
January 31, 2009 at 16:20
Ade’s like EE – pretends to be injured when he plays badly…..
January 31, 2009 at 16:21
January 31, 2009 at 16:21
ade’s gone down
January 31, 2009 at 16:21
oh my word!!!
January 31, 2009 at 16:21
sell him
January 31, 2009 at 16:21
I really love how our players dont tackle players n posession.
What a suprise!! Adebayor misses a sitter and was he offside?
January 31, 2009 at 16:22
Dammit
January 31, 2009 at 16:22
He was on Stu
It wouldve been a proper goal.
January 31, 2009 at 16:22
ROBIN VAN PERSIE
ROBIN VAN PERSIE
ROBIN VAN PERSIE
January 31, 2009 at 16:23
Take Ade off and have Vela and Nik up front together.
January 31, 2009 at 16:23
UGH!!!!! C’MON for fecks sake…….
January 31, 2009 at 16:23
Ade is out of his depth at a top 4 club.
January 31, 2009 at 16:24
Well that makes the miss even worse then doesnt it.
January 31, 2009 at 16:24
Why does Sagna keep floating in crosses – he needs to hit the ball low and hard and in that way there’s always a chance of a deflection
January 31, 2009 at 16:25
ROBIN VAN PERSIE CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
January 31, 2009 at 16:25
Bet he doesn’t take Ade off for RVP
January 31, 2009 at 16:25
Van persie for………ade? Bendtner to the middle?
January 31, 2009 at 16:26
Meaningless possession
January 31, 2009 at 16:26
bolton 2-0 up against spurs
January 31, 2009 at 16:26
TAKR ADE FUCKING OFF YOU SHITHEAD WENGER!!!!!!
January 31, 2009 at 16:26
Just bring on RvP already…
January 31, 2009 at 16:27
What a surprise – Bendtner off
January 31, 2009 at 16:27
LOL
Ade is the new Love child?
January 31, 2009 at 16:28
This is almost worse than against Everton because we have had all of the ball and still havent worked the keeper!
January 31, 2009 at 16:28
TAKE OFF ADE
even for fabianski, he would get more done up front
January 31, 2009 at 16:28
Afternoon fine people!!
Can anyone tell me if the miss by adebapoor was as bas as they’re making it sound on 5live?
January 31, 2009 at 16:28
Diaby and Dennilson are having a great game. I would have removed Ade, rather than bendtner.
January 31, 2009 at 16:29
Ade doesnt even fucking jump now! He just stands there looking confused when he doesnt get a foul!
January 31, 2009 at 16:29
How can he leave Ade on, fucking ridiculous.
January 31, 2009 at 16:30
Finally Vela gives a good cross
January 31, 2009 at 16:31
And the header he just cocked now as well?!!
Anyone?!!!!!!
January 31, 2009 at 16:31
yh obud hes shite
January 31, 2009 at 16:32
This has to be our Strongest team…
January 31, 2009 at 16:33
fell sorry for the poor souls sat in the arctic winds of the grove watching this shyte!!
January 31, 2009 at 16:33
This doesnt look good people.
January 31, 2009 at 16:33
Nice
January 31, 2009 at 16:34
If that was liverpool or United easy penalty.
January 31, 2009 at 16:35
Wankers spuds have equalised!!
January 31, 2009 at 16:37
U have to say that this midfield hasnt given our strikers much of a chance.
January 31, 2009 at 16:39
You mean enough chances David. Ade had 2 great chances but missed them both.
January 31, 2009 at 16:39
This isn’t looking good at all
January 31, 2009 at 16:40
Does anyone remember the days where GKs used to get MOM every week cos we were peppering their goal??
Those days are gone.
January 31, 2009 at 16:40
he shud of kept the 4 5 1 formation and stuck bendter up front and took ade off for van the man to play wide right as he does for holland!… only thing missing then wud be fabregas… team looks sick!!!
January 31, 2009 at 16:40
It never looks good anymore Irish.
January 31, 2009 at 16:40
from what i can understand via the commentary on 5 live, ade’s missed at least 3 chances, including a chance from 6 yards out, and a header straight at green.
That’s enough chances isnt it?
January 31, 2009 at 16:41
well stu
We both know he needs more than 2 chances…
Cesc spoilt him
January 31, 2009 at 16:43
This isnt a bad team out there people
We all cried for Vela and now that he’s here nothings happnin
January 31, 2009 at 16:43
This makes for awful watching. They look more likely to score whenever they have the ball. Im not that suprised tho. Its to be expected now!
January 31, 2009 at 16:44
Wenger would be better than Ade out there ffs
January 31, 2009 at 16:45
Clichy is like a horse. Never stops running.
January 31, 2009 at 16:46
Ya, put Wenger on at sweeper and put our no.10 at CF.
January 31, 2009 at 16:46
how is that a Goal kick?
January 31, 2009 at 16:47
Report on SKY said Chimbonda made difference and it was Wilson’s shot that lead to second goal…
Looks like its those Jan signings struggling again Wenger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 31, 2009 at 16:47
C’mon RvP pull it out of the bag
ha ha spuds
January 31, 2009 at 16:47
COME ON BOLTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry
January 31, 2009 at 16:48
Expect a chorus of boos at full time?
January 31, 2009 at 16:48
Spuds are losing
January 31, 2009 at 16:49
We’ll have no fecking players left ffs this is annoying all round
January 31, 2009 at 16:51
so how bad is the diaby injury?!! another long termer?!
January 31, 2009 at 16:51
Fucking typical!! Villa are drawing and either Pool or chavski will stop points tomorrow and we arent taking advantage of it.
January 31, 2009 at 16:51
Think it might have been a dead leg Odub.
January 31, 2009 at 16:53
I’d defo boo if I was there. This is a disgrace
January 31, 2009 at 16:54
fucking useless!!!!!
January 31, 2009 at 16:54
Stu
Cheers fella. This season just gets better and better!
Thankfully villa drew as well.
January 31, 2009 at 16:54
What a fucking shit game…….again!
January 31, 2009 at 16:54
TT YOUR ARE SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
take your £80,000 a week and fuck off.
January 31, 2009 at 16:56
adebeyor u can fuck off to moon
January 31, 2009 at 16:56
We should be within 3 of Villa not bloody 5 – pure rubbish
January 31, 2009 at 16:56
T least Jay Simpson can score for WBA unlik eour overpaid loser of a striker
January 31, 2009 at 16:57
is there any fucking point to this shite, that was a total waste of my time.
its now 4am and we were served up shite like that.
thats the cunts for sure!
January 31, 2009 at 16:58
WENGER JUST COULDNT HELP HIMSELF TO BRING ON SONG!!!!
January 31, 2009 at 16:58
Adebayor….how may F*****kin chances does he need…where is this team going?
January 31, 2009 at 16:58
Man City are crying out for a big target man.
Surely someone down there must start thinking about making a bid for ade?!
January 31, 2009 at 16:59
so we dont need really need arshavin that badly eh!!!!!
January 31, 2009 at 17:00
To think that we didn’t sell Adebayor when we could have got a fortune for him!
January 31, 2009 at 17:01
Goona P;
Yeah those Jan signingd really helped the spuds didnt they?
I was effin mad as hell about todays result before i came on here, but lookin at the usual over the top melodramatic whingeing and bitchin has changed all that.
Thanks fishwives!!!
Woo-Hoo!!!
January 31, 2009 at 17:01
fucking sell that greedy piece4 of shit adebayor, villa let 2 points drop which we SHOULD have capitalised upon, im so pissed off..i hate adebayor, demanded 80 grand a week and cant even hit an open goal. he needs 10 chances for 1 goal, prick
January 31, 2009 at 17:01
Why are some of you surprised about Adebayor.He offers absolutely nothing,can’t shoot from 5 yards,can’t head on a consistant level,but most importantly has no excuses today for 2 gilt edged chances,that didn’t even work the keeper.The more he earns the worse he gets.I don’t rate Bedntner either but he is still young.WH defence especially Parker and upson were immense.We don’t need AA we need AA+ another 5 players.Can’t wait for the post match interview,not that I will be bothered to watch it.We just can’t break team down,whatever formation we use,as simply we aren’t good enough.
January 31, 2009 at 17:02
Well Diaby may be out for the long term again, he seemed in immense pain.
That guy Savio rammed his knee into Diaby’s thigh, thats solid bone to flesh …..so he may be out for a while.
I guess he is just unlucky with injuries.
The game shows why we need Arshavin because this is what most teams do when they play us, they put ten behind the ball and fight.
You need individual brilliance to break those kinda teams down. Arshavin may be able to help that.
We dont have enough match winners.
In order to make up ground we have to score goals.
Goals have dried up recently so we need someone else.
January 31, 2009 at 17:02
cant help but say i told you so
and thats a big hello to all you ade huggers out there
ade MoM for me
how anyone can miss that many chances in 1 game
deserves some accolade !
Geoff
told you a draw was on the cards ..
we cant even beat a average team at home ..
or away for that matter !
who is wenger kidding with the ‘ he has faith in his team ‘
its about time you went to the eye clinic to test your vision ! keep saying shit like that and the cops will take your drivers license from you !
January 31, 2009 at 17:02
we drop yet more points today,ade i hate to say it is looking like a big let down and waste of space,lack of width the problem yet again,its such a shame to a team that has so mush potential but lacks the depth and experience to realy compete in for the title and this all down to wengers silly pride for me this seams harsh but wenger is never going to change his wase and there if arsenal are to win antthing wenger must go it is must
January 31, 2009 at 17:03
I am an optimist but where do we go with the team. What exactly do Diaby, Eboue and Denilson offer? How many chances does Abebayor need? Another transfer window passed. Our football is far from Wengerball now.
January 31, 2009 at 17:03
We are totally fucked at the moment.
The next round of games suits Villa more than us. They are away to blackburn while we have to go to Spurs.
January 31, 2009 at 17:04
Can some1 give me the sopcast number or a link please.
January 31, 2009 at 17:04
Everytime Arsenal play and haven’t scored when the time’s running short, I imagine Arshavin there, weaving through players and then slotting one at the near post.
January 31, 2009 at 17:05
Gambon – I’d reckon Villa will draw at Blackburn at best. Sam Allardyce will love that kind of game I’d reckon
January 31, 2009 at 17:06
metal gear it was 6003 but its over now …
January 31, 2009 at 17:07
Kelsey you took the words out my mouth old chap!!!
I kept saying last season that the 30 goal season was a fluke!! 6 against derby (the worst team in the history of the premiership in there!)
What a waste of space! And to think he’s one of our top earners!! I dont know who negotiated that contract on his behals but I sure as hell know he’s sat somewhere right now laughing his head off at mugging arsenal big fcuking time!
January 31, 2009 at 17:08
i keep on saying this but if we put delinson and diaby in under wing of veria type player you would see hom mush they would improve but wenger is only one that cant see that these players need experiened players in the team
January 31, 2009 at 17:08
Fabianski
Sagna – Djourou – Gallas – Gibbs
Denilson – Diaby – Ramsey – Nasri
Vela-Bendtnar
Subs : Arshavin, Eduardo, Almunia, Clichy, Song, Wilshere, Merida
January 31, 2009 at 17:09
i actually thought vela played pretty well stu .
that passage of play from 50 – 70 minutes we were piling on the pressure but then the biggest problem was ade’s clinical finishing
it amazes me how when he does get 1 on target its always straight down the goal keepers throat!
i suppose some of you ade lovers would call that skill
January 31, 2009 at 17:09
Odub,
did you say old chap
January 31, 2009 at 17:09
How was the game? I had some stuff to do and couldn’t watch it.
I told you all RVP would not start. If he’s not under the “key battles” section on Arsenal.com, he won’t start.
January 31, 2009 at 17:10
Irish, i think thats called wishful thinking.
Villa are the best away team in the league, Blacburn are the worst home team.
Allardyce may love it. but that wont make a poor team good.
January 31, 2009 at 17:10
Indeed I did Kelsey!!! Apologies young man!
January 31, 2009 at 17:11
Ethan cheers is there a website where watch the game again and message 4 the fellow gooners Ade has and always has been shit. Was Vela playing up front what was the score?
January 31, 2009 at 17:11
For what it’s worth,Kolo looked more assured for a long time(hope he’s not off to city)
January 31, 2009 at 17:12
well ade-paymemore has shown how shite he is. resting van Persie has backfired.
Unfortunately, I still don’t see where our goals are going to come even with the aquisition of arshavin. we need one more world class striker and atleast 2 more bodies in the defensive sector.
I think this fall in fortune of arsenal is the result of the negligence and incompetence of the board and their agenda. Arsene Wenger is much too intelligent to go overlook the fact that song and eboue are below even championship standard.
After today’s performance, i can’t help but contend myself with the sneaking suspicion that we shall struggle to get Championsleague football next season.
On a happier note, how shite are the spuds?
January 31, 2009 at 17:12
Eduardo would have been good today.
Does anyone know when the Internationals are ?! There’s not going to be some really long break is there ?!
January 31, 2009 at 17:12
And why was bendtner moved out wide? since when has he been a winger?!!!
January 31, 2009 at 17:14
sagna is looking for ade !
floating the ball in high ..for a big man he is pathetically immobile and cant get into position , or should i say doesnt even try unless the cross is picture perfect ..
denilson tonight was shite !
i did like the strike from distance however .
at least he is trying and if diabys injury is as bad as it looks i think you can call it over for the lad !
oh and great call from wenger in the dieing minutes diaby gets injured – oh lets bring on the attacking prowess of … SONG !
yes totally smart move boss …
do you really have a clue ????
January 31, 2009 at 17:14
Villa aren’t the best away team in the league. They’re the luckiest away team in the league.
January 31, 2009 at 17:15
this is pathectic, u know what, i dont know what to say everytime i see arsenal play i expect the worse
we cant do nothing because wenger cant do nothing and well it looks like we got 2 more injuries and we have to put jack wilshire on now
January 31, 2009 at 17:15
this should be the formation the next game
RB Sagna CB Gallas CB DJ LB Clichy
DM Toure CM Fran Merida CM Arshavin
LWF Vela CF Eduardo RWF VP
January 31, 2009 at 17:15
Gambon – Nah think it’ll be a draw, hope it’ll be a draw
January 31, 2009 at 17:15
Shabz, who got injured??
January 31, 2009 at 17:16
ethan
honest, i dont what else we can do, i dont give a shit about this unbeaten run, we still in the same fucking position
January 31, 2009 at 17:16
Pat – Diaby and Eboue. Nasri got a knock but ran it off
January 31, 2009 at 17:16
He brought on Song 2 win a game this cunt surely has 2 go he loves his favourites don’t he?
January 31, 2009 at 17:16
Pat
eboue and diaby
January 31, 2009 at 17:17
Diaby got injured,looked bad,but he misses the spurs game because of 5 yellow cards.
January 31, 2009 at 17:17
metal
0-0 a bore draw as i predicted ..
i would do a search for it on a torrent site in about 12 hours or so …
i dont know any replay sites .. goto isohunt.com tomorrow or d/load match of the day (tomorrow) if that makes sense
January 31, 2009 at 17:17
please oh please
someone just get rid of the shit we have at arsenal
song, adebayor, diaby is useless too, he is been given a chance and he is shite
denilson, son u playing well but u need to go
just sell the whole fucking team if its needed
January 31, 2009 at 17:18
O, Diaby and Eboue. Diaby would miss the next game through suspension anyway.
Next game:
Sagna JD Gallas CLichy
Vela Song Nasri Arshavin
Ade RVP
But Nasris will probably be put on the right and Denilson would go in the middle. Vela won’t play.
January 31, 2009 at 17:18
Right I’m going to enjoy the rest of my weekend, enough of this!
We play Cardiff on Tuesday, and if… I mean when we beat them, ‘appy days will be here again!!
Chin up gooners!!
Laters
January 31, 2009 at 17:18
ha ha Redknapp and his big thick head
January 31, 2009 at 17:18
Were we that bad today? Worse than against Everton?
January 31, 2009 at 17:19
cheers Ethan he brought on Song 2 win a game dear oh dear this is not a knee-jerk reaction but I think Wenger has got 2 go but then who do we replace him with.
January 31, 2009 at 17:19
Pat, you dont win 75% of your away games with luck.
We gotta stop talking about ‘lucky villa’ and start winning our own games.
January 31, 2009 at 17:19
Pat – load of possession but no cutting edge. Same old same old
January 31, 2009 at 17:20
only good players at arsenal atm are nasri and rvp, rest are just shit..he refuses to play vela more often and wilshere. denilson jsut passes sideways (but at least he tries), song is pure shit along with lanky donkey…best word to describe adebayor (CRETIN)
January 31, 2009 at 17:20
On my way back from emirates…can’t see how we’re gonna break back into the top 4. Ade was shockingly poor today, we need eduardo back asap cos ade has lost it. He was a fucking joke and really should be dropped for dudu. There was plenty of posession but precious little penetration. Rvp or dudu…in fact even song would have put one of ade’s chances away. We better thump the spuds next sunday…but…will, indeed, CAN we??
January 31, 2009 at 17:21
MP – Cardiff first, cardiff first
January 31, 2009 at 17:21
GunnerShabz
sign AA would be a start …
get RVP and AA together !
use vela as a regular ..
try and bring in jack and ramsey for some experience ..
and NEVER play nik B and ade at the same time .
they are a similar style of player ,and offer nothing in tandem ..
when i saw nik b and ade together i thought we were going to lose !
i said to the wife i think that’s the best i’ve seen eboue play , and then he gets injured …
well 1 silver lining is diaby – and eboue could be out for the next game so hopefully ( jack – vela- ramsey ) will make a claim !
January 31, 2009 at 17:22
come on we might as well get
stefan malz
luis boamarte
remi garde
chris kiwomya
adam rodriquez
they will do a better job then these shit fuckers
January 31, 2009 at 17:22
I thought Bendtner did well, but as like always the better player got subbed. I really think we would have had a better chance with Bendtner than Ade in the final moments. Wenger is seeing a bit too much.
January 31, 2009 at 17:24
AW “We defended well” – defended what well?
January 31, 2009 at 17:24
At this rate we dont even deserve the uefa cup.
January 31, 2009 at 17:24
Picture Adebayor’s against Spurs back in early 08.
January 31, 2009 at 17:24
ethan
i have offically given up, really i have
we cant get more low then this, seriously
am expecting uefa cup football if we lucky, we really need to win the fa cup at least
January 31, 2009 at 17:25
Pat
bone head
Sagna toure Gallas CLichy
Vela denilson Nasri
Arshavin
dudu RVP
would be my next team pick ..
January 31, 2009 at 17:26
It was one of our better performances of recent times, with Diaby playing quite well and Nasri trying his best to inject some class, but we bottled it in the final third as usual by passing our wide all the time. Not usually a bad move but when Clichy and Sagna are crossing, a policy destined to fail.
Adebayor? What can you say? Not good enough. End of story.
January 31, 2009 at 17:26
i can see the spuds beating us next week
2-0
adebayor headed wide in front of a open goal
January 31, 2009 at 17:26
I dont even want to ask about the interview because i know it will piss me off. More shit from the horses mouth.
I would love to watch the daily training that the players do because Ade, Eboue, denilson must be brilliant in training because otherwise I havent the slightest clue why they play all the time.
January 31, 2009 at 17:26
We didnt defend AT ALL ARSENE!
January 31, 2009 at 17:27
Tim Cahill is 100000 times the striker Ade is….
Cant hit the Target by Air or Ground.
January 31, 2009 at 17:28
Let’s break Denilson’s leg and the only way to cure it is to permanently move it 90 degrees to the right. That’ll solve his sideways passing for sure.
January 31, 2009 at 17:28
Wenger is a retard, just trying to convince himself that there are positives.
Defended well, are you kidding me, we didnt need to defend.
Its like going on holiday to Alaska and saying “well the positives are i didnt get sunburn, the holiday was super super quality”
January 31, 2009 at 17:28
AW just said “we defended very well,not on hindsight concerned that he didn’t start with RVP.When told that we have only won half our games this season, he replied”anyone can drop points at home”
January 31, 2009 at 17:28
thing is i can see the excuses this summer when we finish 6th
we dont need champions league football we make enough money
bayern and ac milan have played uefa cup so can we
we are more mature then last year and well i believe in this team
January 31, 2009 at 17:29
Stu – in all fairness AW looked pissed during the interview. I think even he believed what he was saying, he was just going through the motions saying it was a derby and they defended well.
He was asked did he regret not starting Van Persie and he said “No, no, no, no, no” but I think he meant “yes, fuck it anyway”
January 31, 2009 at 17:29
If you watch over the game we defended poorly.
They looked like scoring more than we did.
January 31, 2009 at 17:29
i hope ade gets a few goals !
so we can get a good price for him in the next
transfer window ..
ive been riding ade’s back for a LONG TIME ..
i can understand some fans just seeing him getting goals and all is forgiven, but i cant understand why the boss is blinkered to his lack of skill … his un-arsenal like play ..
wenger is getting too old to run this club effectively .. he is.. lost in space ..
if you ask me
January 31, 2009 at 17:30
If Diaby is really injured then We’re absolutely facked.
Here is seein us playin Song and Denilson in midfield.
Its like playing the dunce and the mule
January 31, 2009 at 17:30
Wenger please resign in the summer and take your fuck ups with u
January 31, 2009 at 17:30
*I don’t think he believed what he was saying
January 31, 2009 at 17:30
The problem is players like Denilson, Adebayor, Sagna, and Clichy play like complete spastics at the start of the game by playing too passive and timid and not trying to score or force the issue.
We don’t TRY to score until the second half. Which means by the time we start showing some ambition the other side have warmed up to the task and confident of dealing with whatever we throw at them.
January 31, 2009 at 17:30
what the fuck is going on wow I have never seen any Arsenal play that kind of shity football and they have doin g it week in week out ohhhhhhh my lord !
January 31, 2009 at 17:30
wenger just go to fucking madrid with song, diaby, bendtner and eboue am sure they will be in your starting 11
January 31, 2009 at 17:31
Why didn’t JD play today?
January 31, 2009 at 17:32
wenger is like a parent defending his naughty children !
you cant expect him to say anything else in all honesty , id like to put the prick on a polygraph however
January 31, 2009 at 17:32
Shabz, thats a bit unfair on Bendtner because he was one of our better players today, as was Diaby.
January 31, 2009 at 17:32
guys
would u just appreciate wenger just tells us the truth
“sorry arsenal fans, i have made mistakes”
at least that would be more respectful then his bullshit
January 31, 2009 at 17:32
I heard we’re in a sensational swoop for Francis Jeffers.
January 31, 2009 at 17:33
I’ve been busy so haven’t seen anything. Can’t say I’m suprised though
January 31, 2009 at 17:33
GunnerShabz,
Sorry mate, we don’t even qualify to Uefa Cup this season.Intertoto cup-here we come.
January 31, 2009 at 17:33
Pat, although I also wondered that its pointless asking now because he wouldnt have made a difference.
January 31, 2009 at 17:33
stu
am fed up with diaby and bendtner do u think they will have a chance to get in the man utd or chelsea side no way
we just shite and they both inconsistent
January 31, 2009 at 17:34
paulinho
We don’t TRY to score until the second half.
more like the last 3 minutes !
+ time on !
January 31, 2009 at 17:34
I think the problem we have is tactical, trying to fit square pegs into round holes, 442 or 451 seems to be all we have, how about some variation, 433 or 352, Wenger just doesnt seem to do anything tactically and is to stubborn to try something new.
January 31, 2009 at 17:35
Maciek
the only way this fucking board will wake up if we aint in europe next season
they too cocky and confident of ripping off arsenal fans
January 31, 2009 at 17:35
and we we had a great chance of closing the gap thats just sick
January 31, 2009 at 17:35
Pat
Why didn’t JD play today?
we needed a captain ??
January 31, 2009 at 17:36
Lassana Diarra is probarly laughing the most here!!!
January 31, 2009 at 17:36
We lack creativity a DM isnt wat is needed right now…except we’re trying to play Counter attacking football
January 31, 2009 at 17:36
Michael, we played 4-3-3 for most of the game, 3-5-2 is dead aside from the odd Italian team and Wenger has absloutely no tactical nous. As far as he is concerned 11 footballers anywhere will win a match and we all know how thats working out.
January 31, 2009 at 17:37
I agree that Wenger will never slate his players, but how many times have you heard a manager say
“we just arent good enough right now”
or
“i need to bring some better players in”
It hsppens all the time and ive never seen these clubs fall apart.
January 31, 2009 at 17:37
Maciek
i responded to your earlier comments at the start of the post
January 31, 2009 at 17:38
GunnerShabz
i think AC milan is for being priced out of ade pre – season
January 31, 2009 at 17:39
The least you can do Mr Wenger to go to the office now and file those papers for Arshavin. He’s probably having seconds thoughts now.
January 31, 2009 at 17:39
its simple it really is
most teams in the premier league are going to play defensive football
expect for man utd or chelsea
we just need to train on how to break teams down, using different formations or play
even players, most teams now know if they play defensive all u need is like 3-4 chances against us and u will score with our shit defence
attacking wise it has to take something special to beat them
RvP
adebayor, they can just stand back and watch him fuck up
January 31, 2009 at 17:39
The first half i cant count how many times we tried crossing with Sagna on the right….that juss shows you how imaginative and creative we’ve become.
January 31, 2009 at 17:39
when Diaby gots out I thought its a good time to bring in Jack and he brout in Song SOng! are you kidding me come on AW
January 31, 2009 at 17:40
i s’pose wenger would still want kaka for ade plus cash
thats how delusional the @@@@ is …
January 31, 2009 at 17:41
GunnerShabz,
In all respect to You, I wouldn’t be so sure of it.All they care is MONEY.If we fail to be in Europe, they will sell Fabregas, Ade(yes, please) and probably RVP and Walcott and replece them with Wilshaire(talented but young), Coquelin and some unknown 15 years old Franch bloke.We are now just a joke Club,and they don’t care. We can’t even sign Arshavin.Pathetic.
January 31, 2009 at 17:41
Wilshere wasn’t even on the bench was he?
January 31, 2009 at 17:42
JUST TAKE SHOTS , GOD DAMN IT.
January 31, 2009 at 17:42
Eduardo….where are you pls…we need you.
January 31, 2009 at 17:42
David
with all due respects we have 2 pieces of tall timber as strikers in the box playing tandem..
sagna did the right thing, float the ball in high into the box and let our Ariel LEGENDS do the rest ..
January 31, 2009 at 17:43
Post match interview:
-Arsene, have You signed Arshavin yet?
-No.We won’t sign any player.
Just wait and see.
January 31, 2009 at 17:44
Tony Hibbert is brilliant.
January 31, 2009 at 17:45
i can understand the strategy , its just our lame personnel that don’t know there asses from there elbows that are letting us down week after week !
January 31, 2009 at 17:45
Ethan
With all due respect….
Have you seen Sagna cross the ball before?
YOU have to Wonder if he’s aiming for our striker or someone in the Stands…
Now with Denilson you dont wonder…you KNOW he’s aiming for someone in the stands.
January 31, 2009 at 17:45
i don’t care shite about spurs plight,but i am not looking forward to next sunday,to be absolutely honest.
January 31, 2009 at 17:47
Noone playing today showed anything to sufggest that they are good enough to win anything here. Aside from maybe Nasri. Our defence was shaky, our forward line was poor (ade in particular) and ur midfield, although having most of the ball, didnt do much with it.
January 31, 2009 at 17:48
david
yes well if our strikers did a thing called JUMPING .. and make an attempt to run into the area that the ball is landing in they might preform a biblical miracle and connect with the ball !
January 31, 2009 at 17:48
Why would you drop VP 2 the bench what a fukin clown he’s been our best player can u imagine SAF dropping Ronaldo last season when he was in the form of his life? Wenger you really are losing it why keep Ade on? play VP and Vela together up front 4 FFS.
January 31, 2009 at 17:50
kelsey – Same here. Palacios is like Clichy on steroids.
January 31, 2009 at 17:50
at least bendtner and vela can do something together
we have some shit players phrases first it was bendtner, then eboue, always been song then adebayor
January 31, 2009 at 17:50
Eduardo is desperatly needed, someone with some spark and know how in the penalty area, but will Wenger have the balls to drop Adebayor to accomadate him, or will we see Eddie playing left wing.
January 31, 2009 at 17:51
And one more thing, we should’ve had a penalty.
January 31, 2009 at 17:51
what did wenger say about arshavin?
January 31, 2009 at 17:51
kelsey
im with you on that one !
we all know they save there ‘games of the year’ to beat us !
there hatred for us as a team has only accelerated
because they know we are vulnerable currently , its not a nice thing to face when we are already chasing points ..
January 31, 2009 at 17:51
Yes Ethan,
But Ade feels he’s a giant and doesnt need to jump…and seeing as Bendtner was dropping too deep…(as usual) and too far out wide….Ade is the only one who could connect….
You have to say that Sagna’s crossing is quite easy to defend .
January 31, 2009 at 17:52
these two days now most important part of our season
will he risk and sign players or stick it with this shit of a shit squad
????????????????????
January 31, 2009 at 17:53
David, Bendtner was moved to right wing when Eboue went off. Why? noone knows but thats why he wasnt in the box and kept coming for the ball. Thats nothing t do with him.
January 31, 2009 at 17:53
so onto tuesday i guess the team will be
fab
sagna, jd20, toure, gibbs
ramsey song denilson Nasri
Vela Bendtner,
oh joy ,of joys, song again ,
i’m afraid that we will go out on tuesday and have to endour another ,Pointless wenger press conference about, this taem learning blah, blah,blah,
this is shit like his team selections
ADE YOU ARE A DISGARCE WHY DONT YOU AND YOUR TWO MATES SONG AND EBOUE FUCK OFF A.S.A.P
January 31, 2009 at 17:53
hes is gonna stick with this shit he as good as said on ssn
January 31, 2009 at 17:54
I think RVP didn’t start because he was on 4 yellows,and wenger didn’t want to risk him getting a booking and miss the spurs game.Someone said earlier that after february 1st the yellow cards get wiped out.Things were so dire he had to bring RVp on.
January 31, 2009 at 17:54
oh dear……..
January 31, 2009 at 17:55
yes true
but over all he didnt stand out as poor !
i think that title well and truly goes to the man that cant jump ..
your going to get crosses go astray ..
but point blank shots on goal shouldnt go astray .
unless your name is ade !
January 31, 2009 at 17:55
denilson is shite…..when vela was running into the box with the ball he just stood there…he should have run around to find space for vela to pass or drag a defender with him….we]re shite….cant even score on home ground….how can a team with our standard cant score….just cant understand…..we need a change…
January 31, 2009 at 17:55
Someone throw a shoe a Arsene please.
January 31, 2009 at 17:56
when does the transfer window officially close ?
as its already feb 1 in Thailand
January 31, 2009 at 17:57
ethan,
5.00p.m. london time on monday
January 31, 2009 at 17:57
I agree with you stu
The problem is Eboue was everywhere….you hardly saw him on the right…always in the middle…and that forced Bentner out wide
So Ade was the only one in the box.
I think its clear that Bendtner and Vela are fantastic together….On a day we find out that simpson has Scored 2 times in 3 appearances….for a very shite side….it just makes me scratch my head some more about Wenger.
January 31, 2009 at 17:57
Feb 2 at 5pm Ethan.
January 31, 2009 at 17:58
Febuary 2nd
5pm is when the transfer window will be shut
does it take 4 fucking weeks to sign someone
January 31, 2009 at 17:58
How long do we have then ? 40+ hours ?
January 31, 2009 at 17:59
i really dont understand why wenger doesnt use toure as a DM !
i mean that was his position when he joined us FFS !
play gallas and johan and the squad would look more solid with more experience !
retarded management ..
its well worth a shot !!!
January 31, 2009 at 18:00
no creativity…..no flair….no passion….no motivation….no leader….
January 31, 2009 at 18:00
A little rhyming there ey Ethan?
January 31, 2009 at 18:00
who is to blame this bull shit for the past 3 seasons
wenger
the team
board
or just bad luck
“lack of money”
January 31, 2009 at 18:01
drop eboue for vela who proved he had more creativity on an average day than eboues best day !
and dudu for ade !
simple ..
team fixed , now write me my cheque
January 31, 2009 at 18:01
Almunia
Sagna-Gallas-Djourou-Clichy
Walcott-Arshavin-Fabregas-Nasri
Eduardo-RVP
If everyone comes back, will this be our best line up ?
January 31, 2009 at 18:04
If everyone comes back our best side will be
Fabianski
Sagna – Toure – Senderos – Clichy
Arshavin – Cesc – ????? – Rosicky
RvP – Eduardo
January 31, 2009 at 18:05
thanks lads ..
monday … hmmmm
in some ways another disappointing result
hopefully will assure us of signing AA then …
plus possibly even someone who could be a last minute thing …
January 31, 2009 at 18:06
Are you serious about Senderos ? And where’s Nasri ? By the time Rosicky comes back Gallas would be 40.
January 31, 2009 at 18:08
I think JD should be in that defense somewhere stu
2 signings? in 36 hrs???
Unlikely but I think its clear thats what we need.
January 31, 2009 at 18:09
Gallas will be sold in the sumer so dont worry about him.
And if we have Rosicky and Asrhavin fir then Nasri would only start because of rotation or injuries, suspensions etc.
January 31, 2009 at 18:10
We are so good a Drawing arent we?
I mean they said Wenger was an Artist but this is just getting Silly.
January 31, 2009 at 18:10
yeah stu ..
senderos , seriously ?
and nasri on the bench ??
sorry .im not feeling it
January 31, 2009 at 18:11
Nasri should play in the middle.
January 31, 2009 at 18:12
arshavin-denilson-nasri-vela although this offers no cover for defence
January 31, 2009 at 18:12
Senderos in the team would make sense because he is the only defender we have that can organise and attacks the ball.
Obviously there are better players out there but he is the best we have at doing these things. He would be the ball winner next to the ball playing CB, be they Galas, Toure or JD.
January 31, 2009 at 18:13
yes johan is much better …
senderos makes me nervous by kicking the ball out into touch ! a fucking useless ploy !
kick the fucker up field , at least there is a 50 – 50 of retaining possession !
i dont think senderos has ever stopped the ball with his feet and passed off .
January 31, 2009 at 18:14
Also, i know im not the only one here that realises that while Wenger is in charge we wont buy any top class defenders because AW just doesnt do that.
January 31, 2009 at 18:15
David
yes very unlikely …
but it is whats needed , now hopefully wenger
can see thru his own BS !
January 31, 2009 at 18:16
Penalty for United…They just freely easily give it to them dont they?
January 31, 2009 at 18:18
As if the “trip” wasnt outside the box.
January 31, 2009 at 18:22
stu
i dont think he will have a choice as i dought toure will be there in the sumer and i dought silvestor around muchlonger either but it stype defender he will get is the question,now everone knows he needs a real brute but wenger will never do that, and he needs the same in midfield but you have heard on several times he never do that either, wenger never last in laliga over there you 1 year without titles you are out second just is not accepted
January 31, 2009 at 18:24
The FA is a joke…
January 31, 2009 at 18:25
Wenger is just poor, why can’t he just come out and say we are about to sign Arshavin?? What’s the point dragging it out??? No one else is after him….. what a pain!!!
January 31, 2009 at 18:27
Apart from the obvious, why are the FA a joke now?
January 31, 2009 at 18:28
Fulham got Barnes.
January 31, 2009 at 18:32
Well (as if this isnt obvious) i dont know why anyone else should try this season…with the refereeing might as well juss forget it all and juss give it to Untd.
January 31, 2009 at 18:34
I want united to win. We aren’t going to catch them and we could do without the toffees breathing down our necks.
January 31, 2009 at 18:35
I’d rather a draw. Maybe a 4-4
January 31, 2009 at 18:37
I wonder how high the % of penalties is for Ronaldos goals scored because they get the most and he takes them all.
January 31, 2009 at 18:41
he scored bout 7 last season.
And i think even more in freekicks.
I dont remember the last time Arsenal scored from a freekick.
January 31, 2009 at 18:42
I prefer a draw….I prefer everybody droppd points.
January 31, 2009 at 18:43
I think it was last season against WHU when Van Persie hit the cross bar and in. Or maybe that was 2 seasons ago.
Either way its been far too long. We used to score about 10 a season, most of them from Henry.
January 31, 2009 at 18:43
I don’t want United to win, we’ve played Everton and Villa now I want them to play their fucking hearts out against the likes of Chelsea and Liverpool because they still have something to play for.
It’s all fixed anyway, watch Everton last year at Old Trafford, they defended the whole game and in the last couple of minutes Pienaar stuck his leg out just like Arteta this time around to gift United a penalty.
Everton are just massive massive cunts.
January 31, 2009 at 18:44
I prefer an earthquake or a cholera epidemic. End the season now and put us out of our misery
January 31, 2009 at 18:44
What i dont understand is for all those atrocious Sagna crosses why isnt there anyone on the far post to pick it up.
January 31, 2009 at 18:47
Because David, a cross can be seen as a sepiece. We dont practice set pieces or even defending for that matter. Noone ever knows what to do or were to go and thats why we never score headers or anything of the sort.
January 31, 2009 at 18:48
painfully true
January 31, 2009 at 18:50
ive heard people talk about seeing arsenals training sessions…wenger doesnt allow shooting practice he just makes players use triangles and pass it continuously
January 31, 2009 at 18:52
Remember when we played PSV away a few years ago. It ended 1-1 and they scored from a corner. Their routine was definately off the training ground because it was very original or at least a rare thing to see.
They started with 5 or 6 player together at the edge of the box and as son as the corner taker was about to swing it in they all spread out to a different area of the box. Cocu I think it was who scored and we were 1-0 down despite looking comfortable.
When was the last time you saw us score from a corner and think, that was nice, didnt expect that. Im not sure I ever have thought that. Its just hit and hope for us.
Oddly enough we also finished that game with 9 men, and still didnt lose.
January 31, 2009 at 18:53
I cant say im suprised Chris. Can you?
January 31, 2009 at 18:57
nope i wasnt either, i heard an interview after a youth match with one of the arsenal coaches and he was talking about how frimpong (youth player) was told not to shooot from outside the box
January 31, 2009 at 18:58
Heh, you know people talk complete bollocks right, there’s a focus on neat triangles, being aware of space and other things but they do practice everything, they’ll do passing drills and suchlike with Wenger and do individual and set piece coaching or whatever they need with someone else.
I remember someone coming on here and saying someone passing the training ground or something said he didn’t see anyone doing any set pieces, then you get other people saying yeah thats got to be true. It’s all fucking bollocks.
January 31, 2009 at 19:00
chris – That was Bould On Frimpong shooting from all over the place and just lashing shots at the goal.
“He keeps having a slash at goal and we tell him not to but he keeps hitting the target,” Bould said after the victory. “He can get a bit carried away sometimes because he’s a young boy who’s learning. He’s growing up and we’re delighted with his development.
January 31, 2009 at 19:02
But Keyser, it difficult to see any evidence of set piece training or defensive training in a match.
We dont look assured in defence and might as well not get set pieces becuse they dont help at all.
January 31, 2009 at 19:05
Stu – What you mean like how we were conceding from set pieces earlier in the season ? But since then we’ve cut it down to almost nothing ?!
Are you saying you’ve never seen us score from set peices this season ? We’ve looked more likely to score from a Van Persie cross than anything.
January 31, 2009 at 19:14
Stu
I know u dont want to here this. But Ade’s last goal was off of a corner
We have many sit and pass players..nobody seems willing to run and make something happn.
January 31, 2009 at 19:16
But how many set pieces do we get a game and we rarely score from them considering we have the likes of Bendtner, Adebayor, Diaby, Song, JD all pretty tall.
I know height isnt the most important thing at corners but we still dont make use of it.
I would think we have one of the lower conversion rates from set pieces. And if Van Persie isnt playing we are even more hopeless at crossing.
January 31, 2009 at 19:19
I know that David but he should be scoring more of threatening more from crosses given his height and power but he doesnt. We typically get 10 corners a game give or take a few and rarely if ever look likely. With more attention to detail in training we could be deadly from setpieces and wouldnt have to rely on late goals to sneak a win.
January 31, 2009 at 19:22
Grovers a quick in and out, saw Steve, Gunner8 and Jules today, guys a real pleasure, out on the piss but talk later! Shit game, I’m bored.
January 31, 2009 at 19:23
Did you just see Wes Brown’s tackle on Osmond???
Tackle from behind and with Studs showing…and not even a card.
Amazing
January 31, 2009 at 19:26
Stu – Conversion rates from set pieces ? Heh, come on, you make it sound like it’s easy or with a few training sessions we could be deadly ?!
How much time would you devote to this ? We don’t need to be deadly with set peices we need to improve our passing game and like last season the rest will come naturally. Unless you think we were poor then aswell ?!
Teams have played very specifically against us this season, 4-5-1 with pace on the wings, the more we attack because we can’t break them down the more space we leave for them to attack, Senderos would have got completely slaughtered unless we’d had all the players we have out fit, or we bring in someone that can help us break these teams down.
January 31, 2009 at 19:27
I actually hate them so much it hurts.
Geoff, sorry you had to sit throught that shit today.
David, didnt see it. Was watching the Dortmund- Leverkusen game on Setanta 2.
January 31, 2009 at 19:30
Im not saying we would be deadly but we would certainly be a big improvment on what we are now. A bit more organisation at set pieces and we would score a few more, and maybe a better delivery from the crosser.
And while our open play is suffering due to lack of creativity we could be scoring with corners instead to take a little pressure off.
January 31, 2009 at 19:31
We can talk about United all day long but this doesn’t change a fact that they are a great side full of quality players and led by a maneger who is not afraid to spend if he wants. On they other hand we are a Club where we must watch Eboue and co, week by week and pay the highest ticket prices in the world.
Ferguson wonted Tosic and Ljajic and guess what-BANG 2 days and Gill signed them for him. Wenger wants Arshavin and ……….31 days later he still hasn’t signed for us.Where is Gazidis? Why is Friar doing his job.Who is Wenger fooling?F**k this Emirates Stadium, I would have rather stayed at Highbury.Sorry for my language but I’m so disappoined…Arsene, just go now, and take Ade, Ebu, Song and Diaby with You.And Almunia of course.
January 31, 2009 at 19:33
And where is Franchise?LOL
January 31, 2009 at 19:35
wanted, not wonted-SORRY
January 31, 2009 at 19:35
Maciek, let it all out!
Fergie is given the money, thats the difference but all his buys arent that great. He went throught a spell of Kleberson, Djemba-Djemba, Fortune etc and they were a huge waste of money.
Lets hope Wenger is going throught the same thing and changes like Fergie did and maybe AW can win a few more trophoes before he retires.
I wouldnt mind if Almunia stayed but only as the number 2 because although he isnt good enough to start he is a fine back up.
January 31, 2009 at 19:36
Stu – It doesn’t work like that, you’d have to concetrate on it far too heavily and it would affect the rest of our performance. It still wouldn’t matter if we come up against organised and good defences that deal well with it.
Last season we scored the second most goals from crosses, because we were confident enough in our passing to break teams down and we could use the set peice or cross to offset it, this season we haven’t ever created much space in behind their full backs, and Clichy and Sagna are always left to cross from static positions because their too afraid of being caught out on the break.
As soon as we make the space, Clichy can proivde a cross like he did for Bendtner against Hull.
January 31, 2009 at 19:42
Well another 2 points dropped, and once again the great one has spouted another load of complete tripe. I am honestly sick of hearing Wenger’s Fucking voice.
Take this
“I can’t fault the spirit but I believe as well that we lost a bit of sharpness from playing on Sunday at Cardiff, on Wednesday a very physical game at Everton and maybe that was why we lacked a bit of sharpness to score.”
So the reason we were not sharp is becuase we played last Sunday and Wednesday. So how come we were not sharp in either or those games either then Wenger? It is becuase you have fucked up and dont have the decency to be honest about it. In fact we were not just lacking sharpness today, we have been lacking it all season.
And then this shit reference Arsene
“[Will something happen?] Maybe or maybe not but it doesn’t worry me too much I must say.
Really does not worry you? Fuck Off, this is your fucking mess, fucking start being a Manager and start fucking cleaning it up.
We will not come 4th, Eboue and Diaby out today, two average players but then who have we got now. I think we now need three players by Close of play Monday, we need Arshavin and two CM’s. The only Midfielder I have any faith in is Nasri, the rest that are fit are not good enough for Arsenal Football Club and the sooner Wenger takes off his Tinted specs and grasps reality the better for all.
January 31, 2009 at 19:43
Anyone know anything about Simon Rolfes or Bayern Leverkusen? Apart from being a german DM that is. Theres not much on his Wiki page.
January 31, 2009 at 19:44
Stu
We might fluke a cup, but there is no way that Arsenal will win either the PL or CL unders Wengers reign whilst he continues this fucking stupid experiment.
January 31, 2009 at 19:47
Stu – He’s got a degree in Science and Engineering, he’s ok, Leverkusen have played some of the best football in the league this year.
January 31, 2009 at 19:48
PTG, the only way i see us winning anything else under Wenger is if someone fucks him out of it and MAKES his fix his mistakes.
He needs a DC, better quality of players and more organisation everywhere, as well as paying the players the proper amount. Paying our best players the best wages and out dhit players shit wages. Wenger needs to forget about protecting the players feelings and just tell them if they are playing like shit.
January 31, 2009 at 19:49
Patt,
Relax mate. You are angry as well as I, but it won’t change anything.Do You honestly think that PH Wood and Fiszman with Arsene do really care?
January 31, 2009 at 19:49
The thing is, lsst year after 23 games we were on 53 points, which would put us top.
Why does wenger break up every good team he builds, he enjoys being in constant transition.
why does he find it so hard to keep hold of players, i dont think any manager has such a bad track record of losing players.
Anelka, Overmars, Petit, Vieira, Cole, Pires, Henry, Campbell, Hleb have all moved on before they should have.
January 31, 2009 at 19:50
Well at least he should be pretty smart then Keyser. Just watching him playing now and he looks very good. Usually in the right place and doing the right thing. Wouldnt mind someone like that at the club. A bit of german effeciency and some leadership.
January 31, 2009 at 19:52
I think it was the right time for Campbell. He had a lot of personell problems and it really affected his game. He told Wenger he was looking to move abroad and thats the only reason Wenger agreed to let him leave but Sol changed him mind.
January 31, 2009 at 19:55
I’m quite looking forward to playing in the uefa europa league next season. We stand a better chance in that competition as in reality we only make up the numbers in the CL anyway.
I’m also looking forward to all the players going that don’t have Arsenal in their hearts, if thats the entire team then so be it. If Cesc wants to go because we aren’t in the CL for one season at his age then let him go (however I actually think he’d stay), same goes for the rest. Hopefully Adebayor will get his dream move to whatever club wants him.
I genuinely believe we have some superb youngsters (british ones at that), who love Arsenal the club & aren’t just there for the manager or the money. The likes of Gibbs, Simpson, Wilshere & others. Of course some would want out but other players like vela would probably see their first team chances go right up. If it means we end midtable for a couple of years then so be it I really don’t care anymore, I just want to see the players playing with passion again like they used to. I can wait for the success to follow.
January 31, 2009 at 19:56
Mancity would be a better team with Kolo but for 15 million he should go.
Bring in Chilleini and while everybody is asking for a world Class DM after Ade’s fiasco we prolly need a WC striker/AM
January 31, 2009 at 19:57
It is like he died 3 years ago, and they roll out a look a like each week who mimes to a stuck record every week
I have belief, they showed Desire, We lacked sharpness.
I have really had enough, I honestly can’t stand the sight of him at the moment, nor can I stand to hear his fucking french accent. And to someone that worshipped th ground he walked over a few years ago really pains me.
This is a huge fall from grace and the sooner he was made accountable for his mistakes the better.
And my disclaimer to all that is, if it really is the board that are not releasing funds (I dont believe it is) and he is merely a puppet for them, then I have lost respect for him there as well, as he should be coming out and saying it how it is.
My mindset now, and this might be becuase of another inept performance and tactical ingenius is that we will not get 4th place this season and we will be in the Uefa cup next year.
January 31, 2009 at 19:57
gambon – How is it a bad track record ? If we’d kep Anleka, I doubt we’d have bought Henry, if we hadn’t have sold Overmars and Petit, then we may not have had the money to buy other players later on.
Campbell’s not been the same since, he just can’t concentrate for full games anymore, against Villa he hadnled Agbonlahor well and then let Heskey run off him without even noticing.
January 31, 2009 at 19:59
Stu – He’s consistent, was their some small player up front or on the wing for them that creates everything ?! Forgotten his name..
January 31, 2009 at 20:03
Not sure. Barnetta is the only winger there that i know of. Helmes and Kiessling up front. Dont know who was on the other wing tho.
January 31, 2009 at 20:03
I was at the game but I didn’t see how Diaby got injured, could someone explain. Thanks.
January 31, 2009 at 20:04
Keyser, its simple really.
With them players we were always top 2, we were considered the best footballing team in the prem.
Now we are the 5th best team in the league, no doubt. We arent just going through a bad spell, the 4 teams above us are better than us.
Incidentally Wenger has said before that Henry wouldve come in even if Anelka stayed.
Like many companies we have serious staff retention issues.
January 31, 2009 at 20:04
Arsene’s favourite quotes:
-I belive,
-the desire is still there,
-the togetherness in still there,
-he is a good playe,
-I didn’t see it,
-we should focus on the next game,
-I must disappoint You,
-I belive he will sign,
-buying players isn’t the best option,
-..You got a guy
-and the other guy is…
-we are still in the title race,
-I got strong belief in this side,
-don’t write is off,
-Eboue is a pass master-LOL
-we showed character,
-the game was flat,
-trust me, and I will deliver,
-relax, we will be there,
-it’s unfair,
-we lacked a little bit of sharpness
Sorry for mistakes.He just got on my nerves recently.
January 31, 2009 at 20:06
London, basically someone was running towards him because of a strong touch. Diany tried to shield the ball and it looks like he got a dead leg.
January 31, 2009 at 20:06
gambon – The biggest change I see is the increase in spending since Abramovich turned up, we could just about compete with United before and Liverpool just spent poorly, but now we’re playing catch up with 4 teams that have had takeovers.
January 31, 2009 at 20:06
*diaby
January 31, 2009 at 20:09
GMR i think it would be a disaster if we dont get CL football, which i dont think we will get now.
Bids will come in for all our better players. We wont be able to get the kind of players we have previously. Also, any time a player comes good (ex. Vela) they would attract the attention of bigger clubs.
Wenger finds it hard to keep players when were in the CL, what might happen if were not.
January 31, 2009 at 20:09
It doesn’t take a hundred million to make a team great. All that’s needed is to spend wisely and we just don’t do that. 15-20m a season would keep a team near the top and challenging for titles as long as its spent on the right players, not wasted on lots of kids. That’s what the academy’s for.
January 31, 2009 at 20:09
Maciek
Dont forget at Renewal time
I will sign Super Super class players
The Fans will be reassured by signings in the next few weeks
Arshavin is not our only target
We have made serious enquires
I am taking my Cheque book to the World Cup/European Championships.
I believe 100% Flamini will sign a new contract
Hleb is going nowhere.
Henry is going nowhere.
Vieira is going nowhere.
January 31, 2009 at 20:10
Gambon completely agree although the inability to sign better players wont matter as we dont sign them anymore anyway.
January 31, 2009 at 20:11
Arsene has to be a complete fool for letting go of Dolphin head
January 31, 2009 at 20:14
No, Dolphin boy is just a cunt. He wasn’t even here for 2 months and he wanted out because he wasn’t getting on ahead of Flamini and Fabregas. I’d rather not have someone like that at the club because its bad for team moral. Having babies and quitters at the club. Wenger isn’t good at controlling big egos unless he nourished them from an early age, hence that’s why he only buys kids IMO.
January 31, 2009 at 20:15
Keyser,
Big money played no part in our pathetic defending against Villa, Spurs, Stoke, Fulham, Man City or our pathetic attack against Everton, Hull, Today.
Man Utd were spending big money back when we were dominant.
The difference is wenger was actually spending money then aswell, now he is trying to resurrect his monaco youth experiment that got him fired.
January 31, 2009 at 20:15
The pure fact of the matter is (IMO)
He has fucked up the transition from the Invincibles to where we are now. We have missed out on the class that would have made us better by penny pinching.
And it will probably happen again now. Todays result actually puts Zenit in an even stronger position. Like Chavski they are money rich and I honestly dont think they really give a fuck if they dont sell Arshavin now even if it does mean they will get less or nowt in the summer. They will see that and will no that our position has become more desperate. If we are not willing to pay what they want then they will not sell, and we should have walked away weeks ago.
I said at the start of the month that we cant afford to waste time in signing players towards the end of the month and deadline day and that is what we have done, and yet if we had paid the 15m and bought in a competent DM then we might just might be 4 points better off
January 31, 2009 at 20:16
Gambon – I don’t agree, not being in the CL didn’t affect Bayern Munich or AC Milan. If players are only playing for us because of the CL then I don’t want them at the club, it’s as simple as that.
We have probably the best group of youngsters around & have proven that time & again in the cup. Should we not qualify for the CL, we’d still get big money for the players that wanted to leave & we’d be able to buy the standard of players we always have, the only difference would be that you’d know they actually want to play for us & are not just here for the sake of the CL shop window.
January 31, 2009 at 20:17
Dolphin head could play and i rate him better than Flamini.
If were looking for a Defender, DM or a CAM…we really should just pick up
Chillieni, Sissoko, and Giovinco…
January 31, 2009 at 20:17
stu
sorry if you at manu they better players in every area of the pitch, better defenders,better and more experiened midfielders ,more wingers and there strikers are beter form that use, know one asking wenger to spend 30 mill on one player, but his total refusal to buy players around 10 million range availeble and if has got the money availeble there no way you can tell me there no experienced players he can bring on loan. another i cannot undersatant why he cant evon reveal how mush he has to spend,sorry there is no dought that wenger had the money to bring in at 2 more players in the summer and let go an experiened player like gilberto and just drop inexperienced players like delinson,diaby and ramsey without experienced players around them is criminal there is no excuse for that. you cant live off past glory for ever i just feel its time bring new manager with fresh idies into the club
January 31, 2009 at 20:18
Pat,
100% spot on. Liar,strong word but he deserves it.
January 31, 2009 at 20:20
Players Wenger has let go, and replaced with worse…
Lehmann
Diarra Campbell Gilberto Cole
Hleb Veira Flamini Pires
Henry
All in the last years, is it any wonder weve fallen so far.
January 31, 2009 at 20:20
Did, big Juve fan?
January 31, 2009 at 20:22
LOL
Pat
Those statements hurt.
January 31, 2009 at 20:22
GMR, I think the difference is Bayern coped becuase the summer they were not in it, they spend heavilly to ensure that it did not happen again, and in the Bundesleague there is not the same competition there is in the premier league so it should be easier to recover.
Do you think we would think the same and do a mass rebuild in the summer?
January 31, 2009 at 20:23
Guys, do You remember a cartoon titled “Where is Wally?”?Where is Ivan Gazidis?:-).
January 31, 2009 at 20:25
GMR,
Them teams showed ambition and dont lose players constantly. We will have a fire sale and then sign young africans.
Do we have the best youngsters around?? If they were that good surely theyd get in the th best team in the country.
From what ive seen all Arsenal fans say we have the best youngsters, the facts dont confirm it really.
January 31, 2009 at 20:25
David, they do dont they and he said all of them, and groundhog day is ringing in my ears now when he says that Walcott and RVP will sign new contracts.
Honestly am sick of it
January 31, 2009 at 20:27
PTG, i am also looking forward to wengers quotes come renewal time. Just hope the fans dont buy it, falling attendances at the emirates cash machine would be the best way to tell the board things need to change.
January 31, 2009 at 20:27
I would buy a defender from………..Italy?
A midfielder from………Germany,
and a winger from……….Spain.
Italy because players over there are famed for their defeding. Germany because they are hard workers, disciplined and (germans in particular) famously effecient. And then Spain because the spanish are on top right now and we should snap up a few of them imo.
And maybe finally buy a few eastern Europeans becaue they are emerging as the new superpower of football. Well, when I say that I mean players from that region are popping up at a lot of clubs and making a name for themselves.
January 31, 2009 at 20:27
LOL
Stu
Im a Del piero fan not a Juve fan…however…
We’ve been linked with Giovinco many times as he says he wants to come and seeing as Sissoko scored already today and nearly scored twice….and he’s suppose to be a DM??? plus i really dont have to pitch why we need Chillieni or a player like him as you know….
So…Cheque book. but *sigh*
January 31, 2009 at 20:28
Maciek and patthegooner – thank you for putting into words EXACTLY how I feel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was at the game, AND, it was fu**ing freezing AND we couldn’t even score if no-one was in front of the WH goal for f**k sake!!!! (oh dear, not very lady like…) I am now thinking, IF, IF, Arshavin was at the game, would you sign if you were him???? Listened to Stan Collymore on the way home, and the WH fans were saying apart from themselves not turning up they all said Arsenal didn’t either, nough said I think…. then, there was this Aston Villa fan (funnily my head has just tuned into that shite brummie accent) claiming that Arsenal wouldn’t even finish 4th and that AV would finish 3rd, you know what, that said it all for me… I AM TOTALLY TOTALLY DISSAPPOINTED.
January 31, 2009 at 20:28
Gambon no they dont
You look at the first team squad and take the ones that can be considered as coming through youth and you get
Succesful
Cesc, Clichy
Unsuccesful
Diaby, Denilson, Bendtner, Song
I do agree though that there are some great players in the next bunch but it is not like we have a team of Messi’s and Aguero’s in our ranks.
January 31, 2009 at 20:28
Look guys – our players arent even good enough to win FA cup. We need major changes. Arsenal FC currently lacks quality – the table dont lie.
WE need to get rid of deadwood & those whose heart in no longer at the club:
Denilson, Diaby, Gallas, Toure, Adebayor, Eboue, Song, Silvestre, Almunia. Lets not kid ourselves -we will win nothing with these players. We will get at least £60m-70m in transfer fees.
Bring in players who make a difference
Arshavin, Benzema, Given. 2 cheap but hard as nails CB’s – Hangeland and Shawcross who are already miles better than Djourou. Finally a world class CM. We might even have some change left over.
Wenger needs to wheel and deal. But he wont. I’m sorry to say he is deluded. Time to bring in a mnager who wont put up in players who dont give 100% – e.g. David Moyes.
January 31, 2009 at 20:29
interesting reading all your comments chaps,but it all sounds like after the horse has bolted.the board/wenger state first and foremost that arsenal are a business,well in that case provisions should have started 3 years ago to keep the business if not on top at least in sight of the competition.spending 100 of millions is no guarantee,bur prudent buying of lke to like over 3 or 4 seasons combined with a healthy youth policy should have been the answer.
now everyone is praying we sign 2 or 3 players in the next 48 hours.it’s too late and we the fans will have to suffer.
January 31, 2009 at 20:32
Kelsey, I agree with that,
And if they are working to that philosophy then they should realise that if the product is fucking shit, then no one is going to buy it.
January 31, 2009 at 20:33
Hotman, you had me until you suggested Shawcross and David Moyes. Good coach but not the man to take us forward.
January 31, 2009 at 20:34
January 31, 2009 at 20:35
Hitman
At first I thought you named too many players that are deadwood, but do you know you are right, I would not lose sleep or tears if any of those players ledt us. I also realised that a lot of them are first team regulars and that surely cant be right. I cant remember the last time I had so little affection for the Arsenal first 11. At least in Grahams day and even in the 80’s they had personalities and tried their hardest.
I notice on here every week that instead of the excitement of matchday, first of all every one goes through the period of dread of who will be starting. Yet only a few years ago, we did not even need to worry as even if we did have injuries or players were rested then we had experienced class individuals on the bench that could do a job.
January 31, 2009 at 20:37
but dont agree on Djourou, I think he has real potential. I would leave him in the side.
Also Moyes, no thanks, I think we should be aiming a bit higher than that.
January 31, 2009 at 20:38
Gambon – how can you doubt the quality of youngsters at the club, they have beaten numerous premier league teams with an average age of under 20. Its not like it’s a one off either this has happened for numerous seasons. You say the facts don’t back it up, but if there is a club with better youngsters than please let me know who it is because I haven’t seen another club do what ours has.
Even this supposedly crap team we have now is sitting comfortable in 5th place, yet the clubs above us have all spent millions more including Villa.
Pat – yes I do think we need a summer rebuild, however the squad isn’t half as bad as some on here are making it out to be.
January 31, 2009 at 20:40
My mate, who’s a pool fan, cant believe the amount of our current players that i dislike and wish were sold. The only players he doesn’t like are Lucas and Dossena and even at that he still doesn’t hate them.
Of the players mentioned by Hitman the only one I don’t dislike is Toure but even still i wouldn’t be distraught if he was sold for a better player.
January 31, 2009 at 20:40
And also, and I am sorry to rant fellow grovers, but today has really tipped me over the edge,
But people always post back that even though Wenger has come out with his usual shit in the post match interview, he is doing it to protect his players and will sort it out behind closed doors
SO WHERE ARE THE FUCKING SIGNINGS THEN.
It obviously is not working, so why not come out and say we were poor today and the players performance was unacceptable. Maybe the players think that Wenger has become a soft touch, it certainly looks that way.
January 31, 2009 at 20:41
pathgooner
your wright
i am sure the likes of delinson diaby and ramsey will getter in time but delinson,eboue,ramsey,song does realy strike fear in your opisition does it
January 31, 2009 at 20:41
exactly,patthegooner.
January 31, 2009 at 20:43
GMR, maybe not
But if we seriously want to challenge I think we need to get in a shit hot CB to partner Djourou, a world class keeper which could be Fabianski (Give him a go) a World Class CM along the lines of Essien or Gerrard, A world class winger and a world class striker to partner RVP.
January 31, 2009 at 20:45
The only players that I would be distraught if we sold are actually some of the kids coming through in Ramsey and Wilshire and maybe I would be dissapointed if we sold Sagna, Clichy, Djourou or Cesc.
I honestly would not be gutted if we sold anyone else
January 31, 2009 at 20:46
We have the most talented kids but we dont make the best use of them.
Everton promote and actually play more of their kids. Gosling, Anichebe,…someone else ehos name i cant remember.
Boro have and play a lot of their academy graduates week in week out and give them all good chances to earn a first team spot. Turnbull, Wheather, McMahon, Parnaby, Johnson, Morrison, Downing etc etc.
Even WHU play a lot of their kids.
The difference is that we only play the kids in about 5 games a season and then they are fucked back to the reserves until we sell a first teamer and then the club promote a less talented kid like Song, Denilson or whomever it may be.
January 31, 2009 at 20:46
World Class CM along the lines of Essien or Gerrard, A world class winger and a world class striker to partner RVP.
Spot on Pat.
Well done.
January 31, 2009 at 20:46
pathegooner
i all of this true but as long wenger is there that will never happen the man does not listen and cant swollow his pride
January 31, 2009 at 20:47
Which is why i think we should go for Sissoko…he’s only 24 years old and he’s very Vierra-like
January 31, 2009 at 20:47
Pat – I wouldn’t disagree with that, as I said we do need a summer overhaul. I don’t think its the majority of youngsters that need replacing though its the older players. Toure has been a let down this season, Gallas has never shown his Chelsea form for us, Adebayor is full of his own self importance & Eboue is just poor.
The young players will become excellent playing with world class experience around them.
January 31, 2009 at 20:50
The problem with the club is so much deeper than the squad, its basically the mentality of the board and wenger, which is something that will only change with a takeover.
The other day wenger said something like “we spend less money than everyone but we compete”….well since when has the game been about making money.
just imagine the chairman of Shell/BP came out and sais “well we havent made any profit for years, but we won the local a side competition”….he would be fired instantly. What we are doing is no different.
January 31, 2009 at 20:51
The following players are those that i would not be happy to see sold:
Fabianski, JD, Sagna, Cesc, Ramsey, RVP, Eduardo, Bendtner, Vela, Nasri and the rest of the CC kids.
I dont say Clichy because for all his attributed he isnt a great defender, nor is he that productive. He is a great middle third player but we could do better. So he is a maybe. I like Bendtner thats why hes up there.
Unless theres someone im forgetting then I wouldnt be too upset to see anyone else in the 1st team squad sold at a reasonable price.
January 31, 2009 at 20:51
Stu -
Unfashionable he may be – but Shawcross is tall , doesnt miss a header, puts his head where it hurts, tackles like a rugby player. Thou shall not pass attitude and… cheap. Brill – just what we need and what we currently dont have. He has impressd me this season. Old fashioned English def and in my opinion better than Michah Richards & JD.
My point genaral point is Arsenal doesnt have money and so a glamourous big spending manager just wont come here – hence my suggestion of Moyes. We need to get cute in the transfer market. Sell players and replace them with better ones. I dont really want Wenger to leave but he doesnt seem to appreciate what needs to be done. He needs to be ruthless with failing players. His duty is to AFC not to the players.
He either just doesnt see it – or doesnt want to admit his experiment with younger players has failed. There was nothing wrong with the experiment – but the young players he brought in like Deilson, Diaby, Song, even Bendtner just werent good enough for a great club like Arsenal. Thats the mistake Wenger made- poor player selection and thats why were in this crisis. Hindsight yes, but thats the risk Wenger took when he embarked on the youth route.
January 31, 2009 at 20:52
Yeah I cant argue with any of those names GMR,
We fucked up with Ade, repaying his complete lack of loyalty in the summer with a 80k contract. he is in a complete comfort zone and the sooner we get rid of him the better. It is a shame as I do think he has class, but his ego is sadly that inflated now that he thinks he is better than Arsenal legends like Henry, Bergkamp, Wright etc.
Those players will be taking up a lot of the wage bill as well, and it really saddens me that they show so little effort.
January 31, 2009 at 20:54
I posted that yesterday Gambon
It was like the fact we make profit excuses what happens on the pitch. I dont even want to hear my manager talk about shit like that, He is the Manager not the fucking CFO or a member of the board with a vested interest. It was almost like his bonus is made on profit margins rather than success.
January 31, 2009 at 20:56
Oh and how crap and unreliable a news source have SSN made themselves over the last month
SSN understands Arshavin was on the plane this morning
What a load of crock
January 31, 2009 at 20:57
Pat – Thats why I said I’d be happy to miss out on the CL, those players would be the first ones getting their agents to organise transfers. We get some decent money & rid ourselves of their inflated wages, we’d also be losing the lack of heart I’ve been talking about.
The large majority of youngsters would stick by the club especially in the short term.
Of course there is the possibility that Cesc would go but I just feel he’d stay on for at least one year, I think he genuinely cares for Arsenal.
January 31, 2009 at 20:59
gambon – Of course it’s played it’s part, where have you been for the last four years, the only teams above us right now are ones that have been bought out by richer investors who have pumped significant amounts into the club.
United spent big money, not much like what they do now, but big money all the same, but they were the only team that was doing so and the only thing keeping us in touch and with a fighting chance was Wenger.
The difference now is the 20 odd million Wenger may have spent back then will have relatively little impact or has to have even more bang to the buck.
Wenger’s made mistakes, but many are highlighted by the even thinner line he has to traverse between success and failure, if we want instant success it’s going to take more risk by the board or a buyout.
Forget the Monaco Experiment ? Was there ever one ? How much do you know of it ? That in footballing terms is eons ago, football’s changed more in the last few years then it did in the decades that preceeded it.
January 31, 2009 at 20:59
That is true GMR
But some of the crapper players will also stay put as no one else wants them.
I doubt we could find a club for Eboue, Song, Denilson or Diaby
I honestly fear that Song is that shit and Wenger likes him that much, that we will one day be faced with a Testimonial game for him.
January 31, 2009 at 20:59
Yeah, yesterday SSN understood we had got a work permit for Arshavin, this morning they understood he was on a plane to London. They seem to be using the same sources as the sun etc nowdays.
January 31, 2009 at 20:59
gmr
wenger has let down a number of players who has given long service to the team,both pires and gilberto were only asking for 2 year contract but because there were over 30 its 1 year or they are shown the doore,toure has lost his hunger at arsenal he has done so mush for the team and just let gallas in overlook toure for captain and make gallas the highest paid player in the team sorry thats cold.as for ade he has been huge let down since getting his contract but he might snap out of it when he is in good form he willscore alot,as for eboue he tries but he clealy just no wear near good enough. i know alot use arenal fans know the team needs to add more experienced players and more wingers and better defenders but i would not sell diaby or delinson, but wenger you just know what he will do
January 31, 2009 at 21:02
GMR – Doesn’t the Times, SkySports and The Sun all fall under Rupert Murdochs News Corp ? They all talk shit and most people buy into everyday when they clinck on the links provided on newsnow.
January 31, 2009 at 21:03
Agree with GMR & Pat
the younger talent at Arsenal e.g Cesc, Ramsey, Vela, Nasri, Jack, JD, Fabianski, even Clichy would benefit playing greatly playing alongside world class players who have the right attitude & winnning mentality.
Thats what their doing at MUFC – regretably.
Wenger has been let down by his senior players. But he is the manager and should have put his footdown ages ago.
January 31, 2009 at 21:04
I think Denilson & Diaby are decent players. They both do the job they are supposed to, however Diaby lacks experience, he just hasn’t played the games he should have & even when he has played half the time he’s been stuck on the wing.
I agree we’d be stuck with Song, but again I doubt his wages are particularly high. As the season goes on & other players come back he’ll play less & less. Eboue is a strange one though, for some reason other clubs do seem to like him (foreign clubs I mean) so I wouldn’t be surprised if he left (we can always hope).
January 31, 2009 at 21:09
pathegooner
the thing about delinson and diaby they are bot at the beginning of there career and have alot of improving to do i would sell them,what do with players like this is you have play with more experiened players and gradually bring them in may be every 2-3 games you bring them in but what you never see ferginson just drop deep them in the deep end rest there title hopes un such inexperienced and that is what wenger has done,he has put alot neddless presure on these players how on earth he still in a job i just dont know
January 31, 2009 at 21:10
Keyser,
Its not that wenger isnt spending 20m per year, did you know he has actually made a profit in the last 5 years? We spend less than Reading, Blackburn, Hull, Sunderland….and the list goes on.
Also i dont understand how there is ‘risk’ spending our own money? Everton spent big on Fellani, are they going bust?
January 31, 2009 at 21:11
Leon – I’m not sticking up for Wenger, I’m just on the side of the youngsters.
He treated Pires & Gilberto disgustingly. I don’t really care how he treated Vieira as he himself was happy to try & engineer a move away each summer. Henry was the one who decided he wanted out (obviously for personal reasons). I don’t go along with the Toure stuff though, I think Campbell saved that guys arse on so many occasions & since he went Toure has been shown up as the average defender he is, sure he shows heart but the same could be said for Song.
January 31, 2009 at 21:14
gmr
toure has lost his edge,i cant put my finger on it but not the same player he was, i think he is gon e the summer.
January 31, 2009 at 21:17
Leon – Probably, I wouldn’t even be surprised if some deal with Man City was done on monday at the last minute. It’s unlikely now & despite Hughes saying he hadn’t bid for him I still think that might happen.
Anyway, its been good but my laptop battery is about to die, so have a good evening everyone.
January 31, 2009 at 21:19
wow Juventus are gettin a beat down
3-2
January 31, 2009 at 21:24
I actually wonder if the Toure deal is reliant on Arshavin.
I know that they are not like for like, but I think Arshavin is our only target and not even Wenger would be stupid enough to bring no one in and let one go
January 31, 2009 at 21:25
gambon – Everton are looking for a richer buyer because their present one can’t take them any further.
You accepted yesterday that we paid 140 million up front for the stadium, 140 million isn’t peanuts, it’s our profit margins from the new stadium for about 3-4 years, it’s not like everything’s rosy now we’re at the Emirates, whatever plan we had for the furture finances must have taken a hit due to the credit crunch ?!
If we’ve got a budget every year for Wenger to spend, however much it is, I just don’t think it’s enough to match wat United have accumlated ovr the years and Chelsea have just bought.
We are going to have to rely on youth, we are going to have to count the pennies over transfers, a few million here or there obviously will make a difference, and the money needs to be spent on the right players not just because it’s sitting there.
January 31, 2009 at 21:33
Whenever the youngsters come up against a side that really cares they get knocked out. They’re fine when the other team drops their intensity level in terms of pressing but when the opposition get their act together and fight for every ball, they get found out.
Wenger’s youth system has thus far has cultivated a bunch of naive bottlers I’m afraid. Clichy, Senderos, Djourou, Denilson, Toure, Eboue. All bottlers who cannot play their natural game when the shit hits the fans.
We’re known as bottlers by opposition fans the all over the country, and for a reason.
No matter how talented these youngsters, Wenger will imprint his bottlers mentality on them and they will never win zip.
Wenger will never win another trophy in his tenure here. All his successful sides have had George Graham winner type mentalites which have carried us over the line and given the foreign players some backbone. Even the foreign players like Vieira had that instilled in them so they had at as well by the end.
Now we have none of that left, so more hardened winners. Bottlers are learning from bottlers.
January 31, 2009 at 21:34
Thing is Keyser, I have no problem with that if that is the situation that has arrisen in the credit crunch. Fuck I know I have been affected by it, but how about a bit of honesty
It is not us that are saying that the Credit Crunch has had no affect on the highbury development, they even went as far as to say that cancelations were in low single figures. Neither is it us that is saying that Money is available, and he can spend 30m on one player if he likes.
If we really are that much in the poop that we have to rely on Youth, then if they came out and said it, I am sure 100 out of 100 gooners would get right behind it.
January 31, 2009 at 21:38
Here is the latest line of rumour and speculation to get the excitement flowing
Arshavin was not on the plane that carried the Zenit team back to Russia
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportsdaily.ru%2Fnews%2Fpribyitie-zenita-fotoreportazh-stasa-levshina-iz-pulkovo-16365&sl=ru&tl=en&hl=EN&ie=UTF-8
January 31, 2009 at 21:44
So Arsene says that Theo and Robin could go if we don’t quality for the Champions League. Hill Wood is already planning for life outside the competition. AW also says that he isn’t bothered by the Arshavin deal one way or the other. Well, personally i would rather see both players stay and seeing that Arshavin would break the club’s transfer record and that he must obviously become a massive part of the future strategy of the team how come AW isn’t bothered? What the hell is going on with Arsenal? I shall wait until the transfer window closes before drawing any conclusions from the mixed messages. As for today, I do wonder just what Arsene sees when he watches the same game I did. I have never heard or felt such unrest from those around me. Every player has a patchy spell but Adebayor really does take the biscuit. £80 grand a week and he puts in performances like that. The man is a disgrace really. Give Robin what he wants to stay tomorrow. Tell Adebayor to begin looking for another club. Arsenal should have world-class players all over the pitch and we don’t. Whoever said us fans are like mushrooms. Kept in the dark and fed shit has a painfully apt point. I have never heard so much fanny coming from Wenger’s mouth and I find it sad and hugely disappointing. Perhaps if I was paying £20 a game I could stomach it but week after week I watch the same old dross making the same old mistakes and hear the same old excuses. It’s enough to make a man weep.
January 31, 2009 at 21:46
pattheGooner – A bit of honesty ? Is it the principle of it then ? They’re not going to disclose everything because they just don’t who would, but they’ve said plenty over the course of the seasn and the six-months over which the credit crunch has really hit, at the AGM I can’t remember the exact words but they were talking about how they will need to keep a close eye on things in recent weeks I’m sure I’ve read other comments saying how at this moment in time it’s better to have the money in the bank rather than going out and spending it.
We’ve been interested in two transfers probably significantly, I say probably because the papers make up a whole load of bullshit and hype the real truths more than other. These being Alonso and Arshavin, if we’re working on a budget it’s obvious we need to stick to our bids and not pay over market value.
We’ve had this conversation he said he’d make the money availbale to Wenger if he wanted it, it didn’t really matter on the valuation but they’d trust Wenger till the bitter end.
It’s pretty obvious that we’re going to have blood some of the youth, we just don’t have the money to make wholesale changes, those that do come in will be the odd player here or there for the right price.
Newsnow and Sky are seriously pissing me off,I wish I’d never bothered clicking on it in the first place and Sky’s transfer correspondant who looks like a beaver, just out of interest have you succombed to the same ?!
January 31, 2009 at 21:46
was just browsing around that Russian site, and there is a story that the NFL are planning to get a team in London within the next 10 years!!!!!!
Fucking hell, what is all that about.
January 31, 2009 at 21:47
Fuck me is my spelling and grammar bad.
January 31, 2009 at 21:51
Keyser,
what has the 140m got to do with it, that was paid 5-6 years ago, that has no affect on our current situation.
Its nice and easy for a co to say ‘oh its the credit crunch’ – well we are a co with significant cash balances, by definition a credit crunch affects credit, not surplus cash.
The club is mismanaged on so many levels its untrue.
January 31, 2009 at 21:52
No I havent Keyser, I learnt a long time ago not believe a word of the press when it comes to Arsenal signings. We keep it too close to our chest.
I am pissed becuase we havent signed anyone, not because those linked have not joined.
With regards to the honesty, I think they have a ballancing act. If they want to keep it all secret then they have to accept that it risks resentment amongst the ranks and ultimately they will suffer for it in matchday revenue and membership and of course in atmosphere in the stadium, yet if they were a little more honest about where we are, then the fans would get 100% behind them, atmosphere would improve and we would get through it together. Unfortunately when the board say one thing the Manager says another and the fans are led blind you get the situation we are in today. It is poor management and PR.
January 31, 2009 at 21:59
gambon – Of course it has an effect.. Where did it come from ? How easy is that ? We managed to raise 140 million to pay for the building of a stadium from generous sponsors, investment and our cash reserves, being frugal and so on for years, but it has no effect on our situation because 140 million, pfft thats a couple of years of transfers for United,it shouldn’t matter at all to us.
We must have had to make some sacrifice to raise it ?!
Lets see we’re going through a global recession but having money in the bank is worthless, it’s pointless, idiotic even, because it makes no sense to have some security in troubled times and things couldn’t possibly get worse.
January 31, 2009 at 22:00
pathgooner
are going to watch the superbowl
January 31, 2009 at 22:00
It actually would not surprise me in the least to see the Spuds bid for Arshavin in the next 24 hours given what has happened to Defoe.
He is cheaper than anyone else they are after.
January 31, 2009 at 22:03
Leon
I doubt it, I go to the states quite a bit and love watching their sports live at the stadium, but I cant watch it on TV, too much stop start for me.
I actually loved Baseball, as there is always something going on inbetween innings and the ability to text for a Pizza to be delivered to your seat was just so ridiculous. I also like being asked for ID for beer even though I am in my mid 30’s
January 31, 2009 at 22:07
Leon
But if we did get a team in London, I think I would go everynow and again for the occaision of it.
I think it might actually work though, I found it weird that your American Football Team only plays 8 home games in a season, so given that, I reckon you could probably get 60k regular at the games, at least for a few years whilst the Americans will find it a novelty and travel over.
January 31, 2009 at 22:09
patthegooner – That’s it though, so you’d be happy if we signed someone, anyone ?! I want quality, someone thats going to make a real difference.
I hope they see it through, if they’re going to take this course with Wenger investing in youth, I hope they back him through to the end, they could have gone the Dein route with an investor coming in, they haven’t so now I don’t want to see a new manager come in I want them to give Wenger till the end of his contract.
The board and Wenger aren’t that far removed, I’m not really bothered what he says, it’s distorted and used by the media to play on peoples anxieties, it’s prevalent everywhere now, I was listening to talksport the other morning and they had Henry Winter on, he began to talk aout getting ‘Wenger to bite’ by asking loaded questions, the presenter asked if thats what reporters try to do and catch managers out, he quickly backtracked and changed the subject or moved it on.
I’m not saying we’ve had conflicting reports but some of it is just a load of bollocks.
January 31, 2009 at 22:11
Our management is stupid.
January 31, 2009 at 22:12
Now you are putting words in my mouth there Keyser and you know you are.
I am of course saying that I am pissed that we have not signed anyone that will improve us, I am not talking about signing Titus Bramble.
January 31, 2009 at 22:14
And whilst I agree that the media distort it, Most of the words that really fuck me off are from Arsenal.com
January 31, 2009 at 22:15
Keyser,
The biggest threat to our turnover, infact the only real threat, is a non competitive team. Think about it, we become a uefa cup team and we lose 30+m per season in revenue, we lose commercial pull, attendances fall………its fair to say we would lose over 50m per season if we arent competing.
Lets also make one thing clear, i dont want us (and i dont think any fans want us) to spend 70m per season, but look at the money we make……there is no reason why we shouldnt spend just as much as Barca, Munich, Liverpool, Inter…..all of which we are better off than
January 31, 2009 at 22:16
Keyser, give him till 2011. Let him dive straight down to mid-table and the magic of the InterToto Cup or whatever it is called. Then give him a find farewell as “the greatest manager we’ve ever had”.
But in the mean time, let’s hire a good defensive coach, a No.2 who can take over in 2011 (DB10, Van Basten, Rijkaard come to mind) and get the club into a position where the new manager wont have to pinch pennies.
And, along the way, let’s get a new board who care about the football and fans and filling the stadium.
January 31, 2009 at 22:16
*fond
January 31, 2009 at 22:19
patthegooner – I asked a question, not putting words in your mouth, you said you were pissed we hadn’t signed anyone, it wasn’t about the players we were linked with.
For me, there aren’t that many viable options out there that would not only make the difference this season but be able to improve over season to come, considering we are working on a budget.
January 31, 2009 at 22:25
gambon – It’s fair to say ? There are no definites, just because we don’t qualify this season doesn’t mean we won’t qualify the next and even if we spent 50 million, it’d give us a better chance but it wouldn’t mean we’d be guranteed a spot the season after. It’s a balance, we save money one way we could lose it another. I really don’t think they’re sitting there thinking how can we fuck the club, they’ll have it weighed up, you say we’re mismanaged at all levels, I say thats a complete exaggeration, there’s cause for concern but it’s a calculated risk.
Do you have any idea how much Liverpool, Barca and the likes have spent, look at the money we make after the debt repayment, how much do you think we should be spending ? Barca didn’t spend 70m this season they exceeded it.
January 31, 2009 at 22:26
Hi Keyser!
What about Veloso and this Bataglia guy from Argentina(Boca Juniors probably)?
January 31, 2009 at 22:26
PDT – Great points, you’re obviously a very wise man.
January 31, 2009 at 22:27
hi guys
im beginning to believe keyser is arsene wenger in disguise
maybe when we relegated that wld be the reality check we ‘all’ need
January 31, 2009 at 22:30
Franchise – Hello, why would you say that ?!
January 31, 2009 at 22:30
PDT,
I feel that if we end this season empty handed and fail to qualify to next year’s CL-he should be sacked.
I we become a mid tabvle club once more, he will leave us at the point when he started to manage us.
January 31, 2009 at 22:30
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/
This is somewhat interesting.
January 31, 2009 at 22:32
u always glass half full when its not exactly
January 31, 2009 at 22:34
Franchise!!!
Mate, how are You.I was looking to “see” You.Have You read my posts?
January 31, 2009 at 22:35
yeah i have maciek….. how r u mate? another episode in our steady decline
January 31, 2009 at 22:37
i would luv to be glass half full but IMO it isnt
January 31, 2009 at 22:38
Keyser
I honestly think we could lose every game in the season and you still would not have a critical word to say about Arsenal.
January 31, 2009 at 22:39
i concur pat
January 31, 2009 at 22:41
Ridiculous that Boro, Pompey, Newcastle, Sunderland are outspending us heavilt these last 4 years.
January 31, 2009 at 22:41
MY GOD I just watched the match….PATHETIC
I cant believe I am saying this but IT ALL WENT TO SHIT WHEN BENDTNER was TAKEN OFF…
We are NEVER going to get more than a STALE draw with a center midfield of Diaby/Song/Denilson….
He moved Nasri in the middle but he WAS TOO HIGH…take off either Diaby or Denilson ARSENE!!!!
Then he brought on RVP, GOOD THOUGHT….but DONT leave Diaby and Denilson in the center….
MY GOD IT WAS MIND NUMBING TO WATCH
more to come…
January 31, 2009 at 22:41
patthegooner – Heh, I was going to say the opposite, but it sounds rude if you actually write it out, since everyone else wants to go with the glass bone dry, broken, and slitting into my veins, blood pouring out, but too weak to call for help line, I thought I’d go the opposite direction.
January 31, 2009 at 22:43
When Bendtner came off Nasri had to go out to the right again (aka become ANONYMOUS)
Great…our most creative player at the moment in a position where he doesnt touch the ball nearly as much as a twat like Diaby
January 31, 2009 at 22:44
nightman we werent gonna score if the game lasted another 90mins
January 31, 2009 at 22:44
irrespective of where nasri played
January 31, 2009 at 22:44
We didnt create any golden opportunities…it could have been 3-0
instead 1-0
January 31, 2009 at 22:44
Sadly, it seems that You are right Franchise. And this table which Keyser showed us is really annoying, and shows that probably we are really skint/in red.
Do You feel that we will sign someone?
January 31, 2009 at 22:45
Sarcasm….
I was hoping for a debate….
January 31, 2009 at 22:46
WHERE NASRI PLAYS MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE
ALL OF IT…
January 31, 2009 at 22:47
Guys, it doesn’t matter whether we are skint or we have oodles of money in the bank but won’t spend it. Either way, we will not go the way the other clubs are going, so we might as well get over it and wait for him to retire.
George Bush got eight years! This should not be as bad….
January 31, 2009 at 22:47
Aside from RVP he is the only BRAIN on the field
Our brains are what separate humans from the rest of creation…
Nasri has a really good one….USE IT ARSENAL
January 31, 2009 at 22:48
yesterday’s game was just like the everton game. “We could have scored any time”, but didn’t.
January 31, 2009 at 22:50
maciek we might not be able outspend or match the spending of the man utd and chelski but that doesnt mean that we cant afford the 15 – 20million for a world class player every season
if we bought ribery in 2006 for 15mill
alonso in 2008 for 16mill
we wouldnt have things this bad
January 31, 2009 at 22:50
Nightman, Eboue is at the same level as the rest of creation.
Song also reminds me of a slug.
January 31, 2009 at 22:50
We could never have scored yesterday and anyone who told you we could have is a blind man
A few changes made, then we WOULD HAVE scored and our lives would be much different as a result
January 31, 2009 at 22:51
gambon hahaha
January 31, 2009 at 22:51
Maciek, with the board that we have, the style of management, the infrastructure, there is no way He will be sacked.
Consider this. When AW gives interviews, he always refers to the club as “we”. When his comments go up on Arsenal.com, the headline always says “I” instead of “we”! “Why I did this” or “Why I said that”…
That’s what our club has become!
January 31, 2009 at 22:52
Nightman, I was quoting a dear friend from the Everton game…
January 31, 2009 at 22:52
If were so skint why the fuck are we spending 5m on ramsey, 3.4m on denilson, 2m on nordtveit, 1m on bartley as well as stupid wages for kids?
And if were skint why do we have such a ridiculous wage bill?
January 31, 2009 at 22:53
Sorry PDT I am a little jumpy right now
January 31, 2009 at 22:54
I could tell it wasnt you who was feeling that way but i didnt make that very clear
January 31, 2009 at 22:55
gambon, we spend on the kids because they are the future and must be paid the kind of silly omney where they grow up desiring more and more and more so that they leave for La Liga or Serie A by the time they are 20!
January 31, 2009 at 22:57
Nightman, you aren’t the only one, believe me!
A few nights back, Rob from Aus (or was it Evo) suggested that we queue up to kick Le Boss in the nuts. It is a thought that keeps recurring to me, and not just in my dreams either!
January 31, 2009 at 22:58
let me summarise things for u as i see them IMO
1. wengerball needs to evolve… its evident from the way we play and the goals we concede that we arent focusing on the right things in training. are game is too one dimensional
2. No shortcuts. we need 3 super star signings. diaby, denilson, eboue, song, ade, (clichy and sagna’s crossing)wont win us anything. keep some of them as fringe players and let the rest go
3. we need quality in all parts of the pitch from GK to attack to bench
4. wenger needs to employ a good tactician as his no.2 tactics are not his strongets point. vela had penetration today but cos he is so left footed he was useless on the left side of the pitch unless he could put in a decent cross which he couldnt. why didnt he switch him to the right from there he could cut into central attacking areas and shoot.
January 31, 2009 at 23:00
Franchise, if I can help to make you feel as bad as I am feeling, here’s a list of players who wanted to join us, but we didn’t even put in a bid :
Fernando Torres
Franck Ribery
David Silva
Gourcuff
Benzema
Danii Alves
Mahamdou Diarra
And that’s only the ones I can remember off the top of my head.
January 31, 2009 at 23:01
Franchise,
100% spot on.But this stubborn, arrogant clown will never understand it. Why waste money for sub standard players when You can buy quality ones. Look at Nasri-quality, was bought for 15 milion, but is worth every penny. The same with Eddie and Sagna.
January 31, 2009 at 23:02
And Bayern is going to sign Zhirkov, that kind of player who is needed here.They are a proffesional club.Sadly, since DD departure, we aren’t.
January 31, 2009 at 23:03
Man we really need to get in touch with him
I mean, its nice to getting Arshavin, but what does the hold for Nasri?
He is so important to us right now and its really a tragedy that “The Professor” (who is supposed to study and make changes) is wasting arguably our most pruzed asset at the moment
Does Arshavin coming in mean Nasri is doomed to play on the wings while Arshavin learns to pull the stings?
Its a clusterfuck right now
January 31, 2009 at 23:03
Franchise, exactly what I have been saying. Everyone knows how we play and have figured out how to counter us. A disciplined side can hold us to a draw.
M. Wenger needs to figure out how to play through packed defences or draw them out so we can look for the killer pass. We also need to get better at playing the percentages, and we need a big string MEAn striker for that and his name aint Ade.
January 31, 2009 at 23:04
*strong MEAN
January 31, 2009 at 23:04
that transfer league was so interesting, not just Arsenal but other team’s as well. sunderland and spurs have spent shed loads. Just shows that all our money has gone on the move. Ah well, the future is secure – I for one cant wait for 2025/26!
January 31, 2009 at 23:04
guys am back
the only thing that can make me smile if we buy arshavin…
January 31, 2009 at 23:05
PDT, theres more
Sebastien Frey
Daniel Van Buyten
Axel Witsel
Hatem Ben Arfa
Micah Richards
and dare i say it….Andrei Arshavin!
January 31, 2009 at 23:06
someone said ystdy or was it thursday that 20million/year was our transfer budget. he was trying to insinuate that it wasnt a lot but i proved otherwise
a lot of money it is.
we dont even have a budget we spend under 1 mil net a year. shocking
January 31, 2009 at 23:06
franck ribery and david villa should of been must buys….
especially franck ribery, we should of had him
hatem ben arfa would of been a good signing
January 31, 2009 at 23:07
Gazzap, the thing is that bar chelsea no-one has spent that much, look at Sunderland – £14m pa, that really is nothing for a club like us….we paid £11m in tax last year alone.
January 31, 2009 at 23:10
Yes FRanchise that was me re £20m. I agree with you. Wenger does not spend net £20m a season – my point was that NO other manager in world football could manage a top club on a net budget of £1m per year.
I disagree with some of wengers decisions on the pitch (eg Song, Eboue) but off the pitch you cant really knock the guy.
January 31, 2009 at 23:10
Franchise – How did you prove ?!
gambon – There’s a link on the side that says “comparisons” it shows spending before and after key stages in the clubs growth.
January 31, 2009 at 23:11
ribery wld still find it hard to believe that he doesnt wear the red and white of arsenal. he was linked with us and available b4 the world cup for under 15 million
January 31, 2009 at 23:12
i think franck ribery would of been the ideal signing, we could of had a sexy midfield but again wenger wanted to have faith in song and eboue
January 31, 2009 at 23:13
gambon
because they budget for it …
its that simple ..
if its not in the budget to buy this season (like its been for the past 3 or 4 ) then they wont buy …
people need to understand a budget is usually an annual thing … if we need to spend another 15 million that they didnt budget for then we obviously havent got the money …
and those young players you mentioned were bought after or during a transfer window where we made profits on selling players …
he sells off TH14 – and all the rest like freddie – bert – viera -reyes – hleb etc …
and buys young ones and gives the rest to the board for there stadium repayments ..
he’s been doing this a few years now and we have only cottoned on to it recently because things are going pear shaped and too many people are asking questions of the club …
January 31, 2009 at 23:15
thats the thing gazzap. thats why we wld go our 5th year w/o the league and thats why we would never win the holy grail CL. i think he refuses to sign world class players so he can get more praise to himself…..
January 31, 2009 at 23:16
Sorry Keyser I have been watching MOTD for a bit
Not at all, If i saw some positives at the club I would post on them, and if you read my posts after a game I will always try and see both, but unfortunately the majority of the time I seem to only see negativity surrounding the club and I guess when you have lost the games we have lost, drawn the games we have drawn, field the 11 that we do and sit 5 points adrift in 5th there is not a lot of great things to say about Arsenal,
But I say what I see on the tin and you can be reassured (Unlike we all were last summer with signings) that onces things turn, and once I see something positive, I will post on it.
January 31, 2009 at 23:16
A new manager would want easily £20m net a season to keep Arsenal top 4 guaranteed. He would want as much as Liverpool, Man U and chelsea spent net per season
(About £25m).
January 31, 2009 at 23:18
franchise
we have made profits on selling players the past 3/4 years that ive counted !
i cant remember the last time wenger went into the red on a transfer window !
can ANYONE ??
wenger doesnt get a transfer kitty , if he did then why does the board state wenger can buy anyone he likes , all he has to do is ask ..
he has also stated he gets kick backs from saving the board from spending each year ..
there is no kitty , he supports his own transfer spending power .. he operates it like his own business …
and thats the brutal truth of the matter …
January 31, 2009 at 23:19
am not saying we go crazy and spend like rafa benitez
but fernando torres would of been hec of a signing
January 31, 2009 at 23:19
wenger should have signed arfa and nasri plus a an experiened midfielder but i cant arsenal winning the title under wenger and i dought he will buy ashivin and dont be suprised if you see know one comming
January 31, 2009 at 23:21
there are still a few games we have played this year that we should have won cos our team was much better this takes me back to a point i made earlier wengerball needs to evolve. we are creating like one chance a game now
January 31, 2009 at 23:22
patthegooner – Don’t be sorry, I’m watching it to.
You can look at it like that if you want and I’ll try and find some positives, because It gets tiring just coming on here to talk football and finding constant negativity. Vela got some game time today, soo many people were asking for it, there must be someone who’s asked for him to play before happy that he got a game ?!
January 31, 2009 at 23:24
i think hatem ben arfa would of been an excellent signing too.
January 31, 2009 at 23:25
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_4880472,00.html
Yep another Wenger golden comment………..
January 31, 2009 at 23:26
zlatan ibrahimovic is another signing we missed out on…..
he would of been brillant, him and henry
January 31, 2009 at 23:27
ethan i dont believe that our policy is to sell to buy
wenger has been responsible and involved in about 90% of arsenal decisions in the last few years. the board respect him so much that they gave him so much power. u wouldnt blame them too much then cos wenger cld do no wrong. its starting to backfire and i bet they are aware.
January 31, 2009 at 23:27
On the fans’ frustration…
“I can understand. I know the fans want to win all the games and I accept that maybe the fans aren’t happy. It was a London derby if you imagine that they are 10 points ahead in the championship and we draw 0-0, nobody would’ve found this game absolutely scandalous. I feel the attitude of the team was right we cannot question the commitment. We have to give credit to West Ham as well, they defended very well; they came to defend and defend and defend and they did that.
“I am not frustrated because I believe the good thing about the game is that any problem the opponents gives to you, you can use that as a way to improve and find a solution. Today we couldn’t but I believe it can make us better if we can find a chance to open defences up and punish the team who defend like this.”
January 31, 2009 at 23:28
Franchise
whats the point in playing wenger ball when the last person on the production line keeps dropping the ball ! (ade)
WENGERBALL ?
it has evolved .. into a long ball feed the tall and useless, for 90 minutes !
ive been saying it since ive been blogging
WE ARE AN ATTACKING TEAM – with better strikers
we would be far more effective
- our defense is non existent so stop thinking about it ..
get the right attacking players in and the rest will take care of itself .. its wengers style score more than they do ..and we are not about to turn into bump and grid chevski any time soon !
so go attacking , attack is the best form of defense !
January 31, 2009 at 23:29
Ibrahimovic wasn’t really our fault to be fair, he’s a bit of a knob.
January 31, 2009 at 23:29
Zlatan Ibrahimovic would of been hell of a player, but i guess he would of moved on especially if he found he playing with song and eboue
January 31, 2009 at 23:30
I agree franchise. we are getting more possession than ever but fewer chances. Its like wenger imprints into their minds that possession is everything. He forgets that infact goals are everything in football.
I think the likes of Ade and Bendtner are not good enough in the mind, neither are Diaby, Den Song or Eboue. they can pass the ball but they cant unlock defences. we only have Cesc, Ros, Nasri and RVP who can do that by using intelligence (I am talking proven – Vela might get there too) + Arsh if we get him. 2 of them are injured.
Nasri needs to be played central.
January 31, 2009 at 23:31
For me Keyser, and it may sound fickle to some but to me it is more realism, I will say what I see. Sure I could just post on the positives I see and just neglect to discuss where I think things are wrong but I am a believer in credit where credit is due and criticism where criticism is due.
You are right in what you say about Vela, a lot of people including me have called for him and he has been off the boil today, and whilst that proves Wenger right in some ways (The Positive) it also proves him wrong as the class is not in the squad in the first place to allow his inconsistency that will always come with youth (The Negative)
January 31, 2009 at 23:33
fran
its starting to backfire and i bet they are aware.
im not so sure , when you get them and wenger spout the same rubbish like we dont need C.L football you know they are thick as thieves …
there is no doubt in my mind they have a strategy in handling the press- media and fans .
plus if you dont believe we arent a selling club just do a quick stock take on IN’s Vs outs for the past 3 or 4 seasons ..
wenger makes profits that disappear never to be seen again !
he doesn’t recycle those profits into more players of quality .. rather relying on the cycle of youth to make him money and stay competitive ..
its all fine whilst its working alright !
January 31, 2009 at 23:34
ethan its the training methods et al. ade is part of the problem but it doesnt end there. we didnt create shit against cardiff n ade was on the bench until 70.
January 31, 2009 at 23:35
ethan the profits are in the bank
98 million cash
January 31, 2009 at 23:35
when was the last time before today that Vela played? 3 weeks ago? Who do you blame for his rustiness? To show form players need to play consecutive games even as a sub.
January 31, 2009 at 23:36
I actually thought today’s performance was the best in a while in terms of the attitude of the players and the compact and cohesive nature of the team.
We dominated possession against a decent West Ham midfield containing players talented players like Noble, Behrami and Collison.
When West Ham tried to have a go at us, we nearly punished them by carving them open on the counter for the Adebayor chance. So, it’s not as if when they attacked they ran over us without retribution. And that is not something that could have been said earlier in the season.
We just lacked that bit of creativity and confidence to take things on. In this sense, Wenger’s post match comments were pretty accurate for a change.
Overall I still think we’re going nowhere and Wenger will win f-all in his remaining years here, but if we bring in Arshavin we should make big strides forward in terms of playing something like the teams of yesteryear.
January 31, 2009 at 23:36
if u was a “super class player” would u come to arsenal where they have a midfield trio of denilson, eboue and song
i wouldnt
January 31, 2009 at 23:39
how much longer is it going to be until someone on the board starts questioning wenger. ive had just about enough of this shite as i can take!!!
January 31, 2009 at 23:41
really annoyed MOTD didn’t show the Diaby injury. I heard it was a nasty tackle from Savio. Shite analysis once again from BBC.
January 31, 2009 at 23:41
Right that is me guys, enjoy the nightwatch
No doubt I will wake with another “SSN understands” that will ultimately prove to be bullshit.
Thank fuck there is less than 48 hours left of this Transfer Window shit. Then Arsene will have to reap what he has sewn
January 31, 2009 at 23:43
patthegooner – Look I can discuss the negatives all I want, but it’s a bit pointless after a while when it just breaks into complete exaggeration, where we just annihalate every aspect of the team, and then do it again the following day, and then repeat to fade..
It’s like simple things, Clichy hasn’t been crossing with the same effect as last season, we can say Clichy’s shit at crossing and leave it at that or accept that he’s also had to reign in his attacking instincts this season because of our inconsistent performances and the lack of space teams that play us have left us with.
With Vela I haven’t made up my mind either way, since we haven’t seen him start many games and when he does we’ll have a better idea of how he deals with it, but thats not the only thing to consider.
I have trouble with the people that say Wenger’s lost the plot because he doesn’t play him at all and then when he does get a game won’t accept that he’s going to take time to work himself into such games. Or who refuse to accept that teams have been very organised and disciplined against us, that we have no right to walk over anyone and then go on to say the other teams have dropped points because THEY’VE played badly not because of the same problems we had to face.
January 31, 2009 at 23:44
Ethan, wenger doesnt make the money for the stadium repayments.
We turnover £223m with profits of £59m – then the stadium money comes from this operating profit….whats left (£37m) is our retained profit for the year.
January 31, 2009 at 23:46
Kenny, maybe Nina B-S did question wenger, hence being kicked out.
January 31, 2009 at 23:46
Pat, spot on mate. If you posted about the positives… you wouldn’t really be giving a fair reflection of what was on show today.
Paulinho pointed out that we did well to keep possession against West Ham… and that is a positive these days…
I almost see that type of comment as a back handed negative… it shows how low our expectations are.
January 31, 2009 at 23:50
yes gambon .. and why would you just keep that money in the bank when you have such a huge debt on your plate ?
you would utilize it into the loan repayments
to reduce your over all debt !
and there fore reduce the amount of interest payable .
January 31, 2009 at 23:54
why doesnt Nina Bracewell SMith go public about why she was given the dunt???
If it was for questioning wenger then she should file for wrongful dismissal as wenger is a cunt!
January 31, 2009 at 23:54
Ethan we dont have a loan we issued bonds, we cant repay early. We repay 20m per season for 23 odd years. theres no option to do it quicker.
January 31, 2009 at 23:55
Still here, Did you go today Pedro? how was the atmosphere? any Arshavin rumours floating around club level?
Like I said I will post when I see something good, and have done all season, I will always pick out an individual performance or team effort when it is due and I will do that for good and bad. but the last week I have seen two performances that would not win any game and when both games needed to be won (Forget how the opposition played) I have seen Arsenal.com contradict stories within hours of each other, I have seen my manager say that he is not that bothered if Arshavin comes or not (That should help) and that the reason we were not sharp today is that we played last Sunday and Wednesday with no mention of why we were not sharp in either of those games either and havent been all season.
We can blindly post on whatever positives are in the scraps but should not hide away from the pure fact that we have been average at best all season, and the football we have delivered is a long way away from the beautiful game seen in recent years.
The sooner as a club we face up to these facts the better. Wenger can spout all the bullshit he wants about belief and desire and how we are 98% there as a squad but it wont solve anything. Actions solve things, words just paper over failings.
January 31, 2009 at 23:59
Pat, not a bad atmosphere until the end… when the team were deservedly booed.
I am desperate to find good in all our players… but I am struggling with a few… struggling to see any redeeming features in their game.
It’s a hard pill to swallow…
I can’t see things changing either… even if the kids do come through, who are they learning off?
Messi and Bojan have Henry and Eto’o… Wilshere and Rambo have Song and Denilson…
February 1, 2009 at 00:02
Anyway… I am hitting bedfordshire… i could be there a while!
Night!
February 1, 2009 at 00:02
gambon
you wouldnt be paying highbury off over 20 years
if you did there would be no profit in building it to begin with !!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you could say they would be paying it off over 20 years (which is more like 25-30 )
if they planned on keeping them as rentals to eventually own the structure ! but they are building to sell and that requires a loan that will require paying off as quick as possible !
and if you didnt pay it off as quick as possible you would be throwing money down the toilet !!!!!!!!!!
February 1, 2009 at 00:08
Ethan, the highbury square thing is completely seperate from the football club, so much so that its actually run under a different ltd company.
The loan for the project is being repaid from sales, and is not due til summer 2010, when they will be sold.
The football side of the business is paying nothing toward the flats.
February 1, 2009 at 00:09
stadium gambon was referring to not flats
February 1, 2009 at 00:13
Ethan, the highbury square thing is completely seperate from the football club, so much so that its actually run under a different ltd company.
hahaha !
yes well how does this newly formed company raise its revenue to combat a loan repayment of that magnitude ?
total bollocks its a feeder company and the money only comes from 1 revenue source ..OUR CLUB ! think about it ! there is no way 39 million in deposits to date will pay for a site clean and foundations .. yet alone keep up with 3 years of repayments ..
February 1, 2009 at 00:16
highbury is entering its 3rd year of construction and deposits where only 1st taken 6 months ago ? so who has been paying the bill on repayments prior ?
hmmmmmm ….
the newly formed company ?
February 1, 2009 at 00:19
more like wenger and his transfer surplus ..
trust me ive been in the building game over 21 years , you start paying off that loan the 1st time a bulldozer enters your site !
now how can a newly formed company with no company profile prior 1stly get a loan for around 300 mil ? and 2ndly how can you pay it off ?
when you have no income to supplement it ?
February 1, 2009 at 00:22
Ethan, 3 years of repayments….why are you making things up?
There are no staggered repayments, heres how it works…
1- The club have a project finance loan in place to cover all building costs, at 6.6%
2- They build 680 flats using this loan, which tops out at 150m during 2009
3- They start selling the flats august 2008 through to 2010.
4- they take their £280m from sales, pay back the loan of 150m and are left with profit.
Pretty easy to grasp.
39 million ws the figure 4 months ago, it would be way more now. 39 million was raised from selling the first 15% so you can see its going well.
February 1, 2009 at 00:23
Ethan why is it so hard for you to understand that there are no reapayments until 2010?
February 1, 2009 at 00:28
Ethan you may know building but you are clueless when it comes to finance.
a project finance loan is undertaken to complete a specific project, and the repayments are paid from the cash flows of the completed project…..in our case repayments come from the sale of the flats.
Should we default the project assets (the flats) are the collateral.
February 1, 2009 at 00:31
yes gambon
believe what you will !
but you dont HP a car now and pay nothing for 3 years !
is that so hard to understand ?
it is totally unheard of !!!
especially a loan of that magnitude !
i have built hotels – shopping malls
and i can tell you most things of this size require several investors to even get it off the ground , AFC had to pay 1 million to one organization on relocation alone , yet alone all the shops and businesses upset by the construction ..FOR YEARS !
yes if the way you explained it really happened the world would be full of donald trumps ..
screw it i could do it and you could do it also!
everyone would do it !!
February 1, 2009 at 00:35
Should we default the project assets (the flats) are the collateral.
how can the flats be collateral when there not completed ???
more like the stadium is collateral …
February 1, 2009 at 00:35
Oh yeah anyone can do it, cos me and you have AA fitch ratings dont we?!
If you want to understand the finances at the club you should learn to read and understand financial statements.
February 1, 2009 at 00:41
No ethan the project itself is the collateral…this is why project finace loans are so hard to obtain and you cant get them at good rates.
The whole reason you take out these loans is because you want to pay once the project is realised.
You should know this being an architect with all the PPP/PFI projects taking place.
February 1, 2009 at 01:24
the proof is in the pudding we have close to 100 mill cash deposits the fault is with wenger he just refuses to spend the clubs money,and i will say it again the sooner he leaves the better.
February 1, 2009 at 01:30
every game i keep telling myself our season starts now, every game same old tactics same old bullshit from wenger when will it ever end?i cant see no light at the end of the tunnel
February 1, 2009 at 01:34
Wenger needs 2 fuck off but who do we replace him with? Thats the problem we’re stuck with him and his Monaco part II saga.
February 1, 2009 at 01:43
metalgear:-
he should resign iv been bashing my head against a brickwall trying to work out who we can replace him with, cant think of anyone offhand but things cant go on the way they are going when he does his press conferences with that smirk on his face it really winds me up he is not listening to any form of reasoning the fans are telling him x players are telling him he just cant take the hint
February 1, 2009 at 01:45
Reggie I mentioned that yesterday in my posts I swear if he smiles or smirks 1 more time I’m gonna put a price on his head….I swear.
February 1, 2009 at 01:51
when he stands there and says he has no regrets about not playing RvP then moans about 2 points dropped they are the ramblings of a madman and then says every one has been critical of the teams performances well you couldnt make it up
February 1, 2009 at 01:54
reggie his another example we’ll constantly give away silly goals and he’ll come out with ”we were not sharp enough” that drives me crazy.
February 1, 2009 at 01:55
just came back from joenglers the comedians were funny but not as good as that joker wenger good night and god bless
February 1, 2009 at 02:03
just one last thing what happened to that knob string fellow something did geoff ban him or what
February 1, 2009 at 02:22
Wassup yall. Im pissed off my face and want to dicuess things Arsenal! Any takens.
February 1, 2009 at 02:22
*any takers?
February 1, 2009 at 02:30
I think so why what did he say?
February 1, 2009 at 02:37
fucking hell… people.. we have two more new signings…
eboue and diaby …. when they return from their injury…
wenger ffs…sort this shit out…
February 1, 2009 at 02:47
Wenger is a cunt for ruining this team.
February 1, 2009 at 04:04
2011 cant come fast enough!
February 1, 2009 at 06:48
Fabregas eyes early return
Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas hopes he can return to action “earlier than expected” as his recovery from a serious knee injury continues.
It had been feared the Spain Euro 2008 winner was set to be out of action until April after suffering ligament damage during a tackle with Liverpool’s Xabi Alonso in the Premier League match at Emirates Stadium on December 21.
Fabregas’ rehabilitation is being conducted under the guidance of a specialist in Barcelona, and the 21-year-old feels things are progressing well.
“My leg is getting stronger and the doctors tell me that the ligament has healed,” Fabregas said.
“Now it is about building up the muscle and on Thursday I had a very little jog for the first time, so it is good news and I am happy because I can see a big improvement. Hopefully I can come back earlier than first expected.”
We need you son!
February 1, 2009 at 06:51
Wenger says it’ll take us about 2 months to unlock a resolute defence. Fucking great, this guy’s obviously not bothered about the football anymore.
February 1, 2009 at 08:05
wheres geoff (i sound like 1 of the wiggles:) )
i s’pose he didn’t read my post at 9.07 am yesterday then ???
February 1, 2009 at 08:26
wenger should be done for corporate manslaughter.
February 1, 2009 at 08:35
Gambon,
May I thank you on your superb explanation of Highbury Square finances? Such is the clarity; I would suggest a combination of your 12:08 post with your 12:22 post be put in the side bar under the heading Highbury Square finances made easy. Geoff and Pedro are challenged on a weekly basis over this; I notice they suggest people read the accounts which are of course difficult for some people to grasp but your explanation goes a long way to help the; let’s say, slightly more average football supporter like myself understand.
February 1, 2009 at 08:43
Did anyone else here Wenger complaining about the amount of games we have to play and the fact that if you keep playing the same 11 you’re bound to get a lot of injuries? You’re a fucking idiot Wenger!
For a so called ‘intelligent’ man to not understand the demands of the English football season after being there for 12 years is fucking rediculous! You know how demanding it is, you know you will get injuries so how about some pro-active measures rather than some reactive ones!
Buy some players and improve your squad like everyone else has done around you and then you will have enough players to make up for the injured ones!
This guy is a dick!
February 1, 2009 at 08:46
NEW POST!
February 1, 2009 at 08:46
Isn’t it the same for all the other teams? I think Harry has spent more in the window than we have since Wenger arrived, not in total but margin wise, in other words players in against players out.
February 1, 2009 at 08:49
London
each individual project finance loan has so many differing variables you cannot just tar it as an easy explanation , its like saying brain surgery made easy ..
so please then tell me why AFC wont go the extra mile (or 3 mil ) to ensure AA services if you think we have over 200 million sitting in the arsenal coffers !
as arsene (or peoples usual excuse for the club not spending ) is not involved in negotiations to secure his services why else is the board refusing to budge on his valuation when we are obviously talking chickens feed money when you all think arsenal fc are loaded upto the eyeballs in money ..
February 1, 2009 at 08:55
premature new-post-ation there?
February 2, 2009 at 09:41
AFC never goes any “extra mile”…