First things first, Gunnerfever from Arsenal Mania just told us that Upson is going for a medical today and Bendtner will go to West Ham on loan, interesting and makes sense if true. He says that West ham will have the first option on Bendtner and the source is reliable.
Well I woke up to the good news that we appear to be closing in on the player known as Arshavin, apparently Zenit are looking to get £12mil and not the £10 that Arsenal have offered, that must mean there is no interest from Milan or City as we thought all along.
Alisher Usmanov. is chairman of Gazprom investholding, the company which manages Gazprom’s international investments and Zenit.
So word has it that Zenit officials have invited Ivan Gazidis to Russia to carry out negotiations on an Usmanov-brokered deal. This could explain the delay as Arsenal don’t want to be seen to be helped by the Russian shareholder, but it appears that he has now emerged as a key figure and if that’s the case, well done that man, because we need a transfer like this.
This is supposed to be happening next Tuesday, so maybe Arshavin and Eduardo to make a cameo appearance at Cardiff, the home of the unemployed.
If we do get Arshavin and don’t follow it up with a defensive midfielder and or a centre back we will be missing a real chance to make some progress here.
The news that Gabby (girls name) Agbonlahor is taunting us by saying they can afford a draw at Sunderland and we have a tough next four games compared to them should give our boys a little extra incentive to start playing like they know they can.
I would like to see us tighten the noose around Phil Browns scrawny neck and take the fishmongers to the cleaners, we owe them for humiliating us at the Grove and where better to do it than at their ground and gain revenge.
Arsenal TV last night had us down for a 2 to 3 nil win, Diaby said he wants revenge so all good noises coming from there, I reckon 3-1 because they are capable of scoring, their dismal run though should see us through as it coincides with our good run, let’s hope Sunderland can stop Villa’s lucky run and let us draw level with them, they aren’t that good and O’Neill is beginning to irritate me.
I’ll be an armchair fan today as Setanta have kindly offered to screen the game live, so I’ll be online policing the site today. I hear Wenger has been praising Vela, so why on earth doesn’t he play him then? He says Nasri not only prefers to play in the middle, he’s better when he plays in the middle, so why not play him there all the time then?
Try this line up boss, it may surprise you.
Almunia
Sagna Kolo Djourou Clichy
Eboue Diaby/Ramsey Nasri Vela
Adebayor/Bendtner or Boy Wonder
Play that team and we’ll play as a team, play Denilson, Song, Diaby and Eboue in the same midfield you may as well give them the three points now and save the bus fare.
Have a great day Grovers it would be nice to see us playing decent football again, don’t forget though it was Nasri and Vela that picked the locks last week.
Le Grove is now smart phone compatible!
Pedro
Geoff
You up now Pedro?
4-3-3 Geoff?
I am up big fella!
nice one Geoff. Let’s hope the good news continues with a heart-warming away win.
Is Wenger playing to play JD and Upso together do you think then?
Haven’t West Ham got a game today?
I’m off to Hull in a bit (well I was unfortunately born there) so I’ll catch you all later!
0-3 to the boys with cannons on their chests today methinks.
Tough call but I would be surprised if Upson came, still at least we get to watch a game tonight.
Yeah Geoff, crying into my wallet…
Just picking up on your last point about Arsene not signing the best kids…
We tried for Messi, but work permit issues threw a spanner in the works… We also tried for Pato, but he had a choice of Chavski or joining Milan and going straight into their first team… if he’d come to us he would have had to of gone on loan for a year or two to Salamanca. So it wasn’t really a choice.
Denilson has been captain at every level of the Brazilian setup bar the seniors… so he was a best in category player… and then you look at some of the other youngsters he’s snared… Cesc, Theo, Clichy, Vela, JD, Rambo, Anelka…
His record with kids is pretty good, I think it would be unfair to take that away from him.
Outside of Cesc then, Anelka was sold, Theo cost £8mil that’s £2mil less than we’re bidding for Arshavin, Djourou has only just started playing, Vela and Ramsey don’t play, so that leaves the other gems, Denilson, Song and Eboue, good call that.
I’d prefer Ramsey, Diaby, Nasri, Vela.
Eboue is a dead end and doesn’t help to shore up the midfield which i presume is the intention.
Get the ball players playing and don’t let Hull have the ball.
if bendtner goes to west ham in exchange for upson and if we are going to replace him we should buy kris boyd from Rangers!
Now before everyone has a massive go at me for being so stupid it wouldnt be that bad a signing trust me.
He would be availible for under 5 mil, He wouldnt be first choice, but if you look at his scoring record its unbelievable, go look it up. its better than eduardo’s was before he came here. Ok the scottish league isnt exactly great but neither was the croatian league when we signed eduardo.
I probably am just being stupid but i think he is a class player
But you can’t just pull out the bad ones and use them as the benchmark for his success… People don’t judge Fergie on Djemba Djemba and Miller… they judge him on Christiano and Beckham.
Cost and whether we sold them shouldn’t matter… Pato cost £18million… that doesn’t take anything away from the signing.
Boy wonder??!! I hope by that you mean V. Persie
Your formation is spot-on, I’ve been hoping Arsene would start Vela at some point of time, hopefully today is that day. Thing is he’ll probably play Denilson in the centre and Diaby on the wing instead of Vela
morning guys, i have a good feeling today, im taking the old man to his first ever Arsenal game so by my reckoning the omens are good 0-3! Come on!
If I picked out the bad ones I’d be here all day, Mendez, Larson, Karlbassyon, Wrey, Diawara, Stepanovs, Grondin, shall I go on or do you only count Anelka, Cesc and Clichy.
Duckster – Robin, the boy wonder!
come on arsenal
Geoff, I cant find anything on the arsenlal mania link, is it just a rumour?, could be a good deal for both clubs
He never says he signs players for them all to come good… he just creates a production line… sells off the poor ones and keeps the good ones. Look at how many ex Arsenal players are playing in the Prem.
I’m not saying he is perfect, but he has quite a lot of success with players compared with other managers.
Itz time for Alisher Usmanov to take over from blood diamond dealer Danny Fizsman
Morning All
Looking forward to a decent performance today. Sadly, I write that every game and have been sorely disappointed in recent weeks.
JD … was that serious comment ?
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4805064,00.html
Fergie is talking about us now… and its the truth.
It is perfectly possible for us to put up a great run from now till the end and if we do that we would be champions. Last time Ronaldo was in great form, but this time Manu will struggle in the 2nd half.
With two good signings viz Arshavin and maybe Upson, we can make up for our woeful start.
Seriously if the players play with a mentality to just win, it is not going to help any cause…… Hull are down just need a bit of bulldozing.
Ramsey is not ready for premiership -he bulliied off the ball to easily.
BR – ill just take the three points however they come!
Yes it was Big Raddy, Usmanov will make sure more funds are available for transfers, everyone says he is some gangster but people forget that Fizsman is no saint
Morning Everyone…
Great post Geoff!
oh it would be good if we can get Upson. and the Loan Deal might be good for Nikki B i think
When was the last success then Pedro, the 2005 FA Cup that we won with a shit performance? Year before the invincibles, so he says, I know, I’ll start again with kids, world class ones too.
….it’s now 2009 and we don’t look like qualifying for the Champions league, see what you mean.
Where is the Upson-medical article on Arsenal-mania?
i hope this Kaka Deal goes flat on its face or Kaka uses his brain and not go to Man Shity.
I’m not disagreeing that things haven’t been great… but I think with a couple of decent signings… even just Arshavin… we’ll qualify for the champions league and maybe nab a trophy.
Anyway… we’ll beat them 2-0. Ade and RvP on the score sheet!
Ive got a really bad feeling if we get Upson he is gonna get injured after one or two games
Athlon he emailed me. Pedro you’re a fucking AKB.
GDAY Geoff and all,
great post and a long time till kick off. 9pm here so at least 7.5 hours to go. just hooking into a burger with the lot – no pineapple – plus small chips, washed down with wild turkey can. should be an interesting nite ahead!
take pedro’s name away from authors and put him under the akb section
Morning Geoff; the sun is shining and so is your post, and, you’ve made a blond bird very very happy indeed, in particular if the deal re Arshavin/Upson is on. I am with you, let’s ‘slap’ Phil Brown around the face so hard that it stings all week-end and the rest of next week, then look forward to seeing repeats of the goals that they (hull) concede. By the way, when watching the Bolton game I noticed a lot of ‘Russians’ around the section I sit in – could they be Zenit fans visiting their ‘new’ club????
Okay, but would Upson come just on loan? Or we give Bendtner for West Ham on loan with an option to a pernament deal and Upson arrives with a pernament deal?
When will they annonunce that? Could he play today if they annoncued it now?
Morning Evo, 7.5 hours to stay sober, that’s a challenge, good luck.
Morning Skandi, it’s my mission to make you happy!
Athlon, you now know as much as me but Arsenal Mania had a tip so I thought I would let my Grovers know, with a bit of luck…
a big challenge mate.
anyone know anything about this?
http://www.lep.co.uk/national-football/Arsenal-and-Villa-in-fight.4886910.jp
Rocknrolla good call!
my glass isn’t even half empty anymore and i will tell you why.even if we sign arshavin,he hasn’t played since the russian season ended,and in wenger’s own words it takes a player 6 months to really adjust to the pace of the p.l.as was the case of eduardo.
theo,cesc,and rosicky(if we ever see him again)are out for at least 6/8 weeks,so we are left with an average squad who don’t look convincing and the only solution if we wish to retain c.l.football is to play jack,vela and ramsey now and buy a bit of quality from within the p.l.
not only villa but everton are breathing down our necks,,and to loan/sell bedtner now is crazy as he is needed as an impact player,even though i don’t rate him.
i may be wrong but all this bollocks coming from various wenger interviews drives me crazy.we just keep going round in circles with a diminishing squad, full of overpayed primo donnas and others who are just understudies or useless.
i hope to be proved wrong,but i just can’t see it.the club are taking the fans for mugs.
pedro,i sent you a picture to pass on to rico, if you will.
Morning all, nice write-up Geoff, I hope you are right about the Arshavin. As for phil brown, I cant wait for us to wipe that smug smile of his face. I must say, I’m still waiting for michael p’s 3 big signings to manifest, though, from where I sit, its looking increasingly unlikely especially with our returning injured looking like new signings! Today is a good day and I think we will win 0-3, we’ve had a rotten year, so lets hope our fortunes change as of now. C’mon you Gunners!
this was the post by mccree who is a member in arsenal mania for 2 years now and doesnt make things up;
[quote]I would not want upson here and dont realy think he is any better than we have but aparently upson had a medical with us today . Its a good source but my lips are closed . it maybe bs but telling everyone what I have been told from a very reliable source[/quote]
then he went on to say this,
[quote]Ive never chated bs on this forum before just something I have been told by someone who is a internet friend and does alot of football writing .
BTW i just found this http://soccervoice.com/n090147.htm [/quote]
i wanted geoff to know of this just to keep him informed of the word around town.
cheers
And it’s much appreciated Gunnerfever! Morning Truth.
cheers geoff.
Our little friend from the countryside is back… like clock work…
Sean or whatever your name is, why don’t you ever come here with a comment worth debating? Is it because you don’t have one?
Kelsey, I forwarded your pics.
Gnarley and all -
not sure if you are there, but thank fuck we didnt sign Mark Milligan – i fail to believe he could have ever had a trial with us pre-season. Newcastle Jets are sitting bottom of the table and he is shite!
Other news of the Australia type is apparently Robbie Fowler is on the verge of signing for the new Northen QLD team for next season, how old is that bastard now?
Fair play to Usmanov if he is helping facilitate the Arshavin Transfer. I was really aginst his involvement in our club but so far he has caused no problems and like it or not his and Kronke’s wealth do stabilise and improve the clubs credit rating.
As for today I hope the midfield lines up
Diaby, Denilson, Nasri, Vela
It would be much more attacking and I have no doubt that midfield will create goals.
It’s because we don’t debate what it’s like having sex with a goat Pedro.
hahah that must kill the akb pedro
Let Sean the Sheep on Pedro, see if he can actually provide some points to back up his beliefs or if he shows his own true class by just being abusive.
Lets get Usmanov on the board as well, the more rich fellas we have the better in my book, and if they can get on, fucking great
And if one wants to move on, we will have the protection from having another billionare still
Sounds perfect.
Farmer man, your posts are the only ones I delete becuase your always so abusive. I know you are from the country because you IP addresses are always from round that way.
No shame in being a farmer mate…
Pedro, It looks like Sean the sheep is getting slaughtered….dare I ask, what did he say?
Good eveing London
Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!! game day or wee hours of the morning as it will be here.
evo
the only way a milligan would have got a gig @ Arsenal is Spike Milligan with the Gooooons
I dont get this Upson link myself
Purely through numbers. Where does he sit when we already have Djourou, Gallas, Toure, Silvestre, Senderos (on loan but will come back)?
Ok if you list them in current quality, he would probably go in just behind Djourou but the others are capable of doing a job
Yet our DM role is a complete void where ok we have numbers but none of them have proved capable and we are over half way through the season, so its not like we havent given them a fair crack at it.
Truth, he doesn’t say anything of interest… he just comes on everyday and calls us tossers and tells us we aren’t real fans without really offering an intelligent point of view.
Not real fans…? Season ticket holders, Arsenal blog authors and runners of a free ticket exchange for fans to trade their spares at cost… I think we are real fans.
good to see you Gnarley – vics look good in the 20/20 against the NSW.
Geoff
I read yesterday somewhere that Wenger has admited he is interested in Arswaxin. I hope this is more substantial than just his regular arse manicure as illustrated in Le Grove funnies.
Bergkamp if you around, that comedy site Football Rumours has come up with some more real crackers today. Honestly I love a chuckle reading it with Breakfast. How about this one for starters
Arsenal midfielder Alexandre Song is set to sign for Chelsea in the next few days. The two clubs have already agreed a fee in the region of £8m, and Chelsea have offered Song a five–year contract in the region of £80,000 per week.
And this is vintage rumour mongering, now I see where the press pick up their stories…..It is on Football Rumours
My Dad works at Melwood training complex and there is talk that Rafe Benitez is stalling on signing a new contract because a) his moves for one of his top transfer targets, former player Sinama Pongolle , are being blocked by the board. And b) the board are refusing to offer Daniel Agger a new contract due to the development of a cocaine habit which was kept secret by Liverpool and the FA (he was even issued a secret ban under the cover of a non existent injury) due to fears for the defenders personal safety and his relationship with a 17 year old local girl who happens to be the daughter of a high ranking Liverpool drug dealer. Sammy Lee is keen on bringing Gary Cahill in as replacement.
evo
we blew it in the 20/20 the other day, but my consolation will be to retain The Ashes.
So Aston Martin are carrying on as if they belong in the top 4. So far Aston Martin have been playing like a Ferrari & are only 3 points ahead of The Arsenal who have been playing like a 3 wheeled Go Go mobile. If The arsenal can lift in form to playing like a mini minor that birmingham mob will come a cropper.
six and a half hours until kick-off… what the fuck am i meant to do all day
Nice one, Pedro.
Seb
Blog on here
could pass away 2 hours. Then visit some spuds sites for a laugh for 2 hours, then you only have 2 hours to go. I can’t think of everything.
Seb – you can drink cans with me till kick off if you want? 10pm here.
Great analogy there Gnarley
I guess that is the thing, Villa cant get any better with their current squad, but with a bit of tinkering and playing the right people in the right places we can, and once the players come in and the injured return, surely we can take our 4th place back. Maybe more!!!!
I am hoping it all starts at Sunderland this afternoon.
geoff
all i can say about fizman is if he is so pissed off with wenger
he hasnt sacked him yet .. nor even looks close to doing so …
also if AFC have the available funds why is the Russian share holder coming to our rescue when
we are talking only 12 mil and we got like 8 mil for Bentley recently ..
are you saying fizman wants arsene to spend yet cant afford the extra 4 mil ?
we have to get help from a shareholder they all hate ?
does arsene even get a transfer kitty ? because i think not ..!!!
he hasnt gone into the red for over 4 years now and he also balanced the books + profits in july.
im pretty sure the board dont give wenger a cracker to spend and havent done so in ages ..
this doesnt scream a club who has loose funds ready to buy quality ..
why get silvestre for under a mil ? – injured
why get bitchslap hows a failure ? = injured
nasri’s transfer was delayed until the sale of hleb …
none of this screams a club who has available funds …
plus if you do the maths on the loan situation id say AFC are up to there fuckin eyeballs in debt currently .
sure after the property sells it might be a totally different kettle of fish but currently
thats 6 months to a year + away.
evo
I’ve gone beyond the cans now I’m having http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll15/ewcrisp/CaptainMorgans.jpg
Chamonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!
I offered many intelligent points of view. They are the following:
i) You are a bunch of glory hunters.
ii) You don’t get behind the team.
iii) You have a herd mentality. You scapegoat a number of players, and everybody follows suit.
iv) You don’t accept the reality that we have to live within our means, unlike Chelsea and Manchester United and now Manchester City.
v) You have proved to be wrong, consistently, on players. You said that Denilson was not good enough to be an Arsenal player. The OPTA stats, not only in the premiership but in the european league show that he is one of the top midfielders for assists, passing, winning fouls.
vi) You make no comparisons to previous Arsenal teams under Terry Neil and GG. These teams were consistently outclassed at the top european level. You believe that the current Arsenal team, whilst going up a level, is perversely inferior to a lot of those teams. The opposite is true.
viii) You make naive comments with respect to player acquistion and transfers. Arsenal is a star factory, not a purchaser of stars.
ix) You believe that you are justified to slag off the team because of high season ticket prices. You believe that the board should spend more because Chelsea and Manchester United are doing so, even if it defies financial reality.
x) You never factor in form, injuries and confidence. Eboue was coming back from injury, and out of form, but you slaughtered him. Never mind that he was very good at the start of the season.
xi) You don’t challenge moronic comments, but you quite happily delete posts that don’t agree with any anti-Wenger or anti-Arsenal sentiment. Some of the comments on here are so utterly ludicrous it defies belief.
There… enough intelligent comment for you ?
Morrows broken arm where are you, our friend from the land of the long white cloud.
Farmer Gooner spent quite a bit of time putting that comment together, so I let it on.
He is the ‘Real Gooner’ who posts abuse in our comments section every day.
I’ll let you all dissect his fascinating views on Le Grove.
No abuse though… don’t lower yourself to his level.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the captain
Farmer Gooner
You know if someone stuck a rocket up the England national Football team, instead of kissing their arse all the time, Engalnd might not be the also rans that r=the rest of the World sees them as.
Maybe we on here are just sick & tired of just taking shit ( as a farmer you probably shovel it) We wan’t results. Do farmers in England actually work are you all subsidised to sit on you rarses by the rest of Europe.
To hell wit phil brown hope we make him frown. 0-3 to the arsenal
Farmer, it sounds like you’ve been feeding the chooks too much if you know what i mean.
Sorry Pedro, only just read you last row after i abused
hehehehe….funny though
Kaka has already issued a snub to Manchester City by revealing he prefers rivals Manchester United and Arsenal. LOL
You know it really pisses me off when so called Arsenal fans come on here & down grade the George Graham years. I don’t believe they are real Arsenal fans if they see that era as a bad time in the history of The Club.
i) You are a bunch of glory hunters.
A. Been a season ticket holder all through the nineties (Geoff earlier). Season tickets, Boxes, Shares… etc etc. European trips, away trips, cup finals etc…
ii) You don’t get behind the team.
A. I don’t think you’ve ever sat with me or Geoff at a game.
iii) You have a herd mentality. You scapegoat a number of players, and everybody follows suit.
A. If a player is poor and people don’t agree, they can tell us why… or blog else where if they are that insulted by our point of view.
iv) You don’t accept the reality that we have to live within our means, unlike Chelsea and Manchester United and now Manchester City.
A. We accept the reality, assess the accounts, listen to the board and understand that there is money to spend and we don’t spend it.
v) You have proved to be wrong, consistently, on players. You said that Denilson was not good enough to be an Arsenal player. The OPTA stats, not only in the premiership but in the european league show that he is one of the top midfielders for assists, passing, winning fouls.
A. Denilson was not good enough at the start of the year, but he is improving. We’re 5th in the league… if he was good enough, we’d be nearer the top. I think he could become a good player, but to compete for trophies… we need better.
vi) You make no comparisons to previous Arsenal teams under Terry Neil and GG. These teams were consistently outclassed at the top European level. You believe that the current Arsenal team, whilst going up a level, is perversely inferior to a lot of those teams. The opposite is true.
A. Why would we compare the current team to a poor team? GG won plenty of trophies and had some great players… don’t knock a fantastic manager. That reeks of someone who only started supporting when Wenger came on board.
viii) You make naive comments with respect to player acquistion and transfers. Arsenal is a star factory, not a purchaser of stars.
A. Factories produce goods for other people… ala Hleb, Flamini. The factory system is flawed. We weren’t a factory during the invincible period… we bought in class and made it world class.
ix) You believe that you are justified to slag off the team because of high season ticket prices. You believe that the board should spend more because Chelsea and Manchester United are doing so, even if it defies financial reality.
A. We believe that owning the most expensive ticket in the world entitles us to call for a few world class players. Not £30million players… but the odd class player would be nice. We’ve been out spent by reading in the last 5 years… there is something very wrong about that considering we are a champions league team.
x) You never factor in form, injuries and confidence. Eboue was coming back from injury, and out of form, but you slaughtered him. Never mind that he was very good at the start of the season.
A. If Eboue wasn’t ready… why did WEnger play him despite having actual options on the bench? Wenger is one of the most scientific managers out there… he must have been fit enough otherwise he wouldn’t have risked it.
xi) You don’t challenge moronic comments, but you quite happily delete posts that don’t agree with any anti-Wenger or anti-Arsenal sentiment. Some of the comments on here are so utterly ludicrous it defies belief.
A. We delete abusive comments like your own… they are childish and add nothing to the site.
There… enough intelligent comment for you ?
A. Not really.
Farmer Brown/Gooner
Go to your local DVD outlet & get out Fever Pitch, so you can see what winning a Title really means to “life” long Arsenal tragics. And I don’t include myself in that, but I would includ the likes of Geoff, Kelsey, Big Raddy, Angry Loner, Old father Gun, GMR, DDM, etc etc etc. How dare you come on here & acuse thes types of not being true to the cause, you fucking wanker.
struth. well said
time for a we break, back soon all.
Farmer -
(does the use of roman numerals make you intelligent)
1) glory hunters don’t buy season tickets for 30 years
2) getting behind the team on a match day and allowing yourself to criticize after a game are two different things.
3) everyone gives their own opinion. if a player is recognised by the majority as sub-standard, it’s probably because he is.
4) we are a wealthy club that takes a fortune on match days. invest some of it back into the team
5) statistics can prove or disprove anything. The Arse having 90% of possession means nothing if we don’t create chances.
6) comparisons with the past are irrelevant, the present is what counts.
7) there is no number vii
9) if you pay £1500 for a season ticket, don’t you think you have a right to want a little value for money?
10) Eboue has no footballing intelligence even if he has the odd good game. Whether he’s good enough or not is a matter of opinion.
11) Moronic comments are ignored. Ones that say that people are anti-Arsenal are jumped on.
And no not enough intelligent comment.
Gnarley, what is amazing is that he comes on everyday… so he obviously likes the site.
If I don’t like a site, I just don’t go there… this Farmer chap must have us bookmarked… he’s on more than you guys!
ill respond in upper case
( I LOVE UPPER CASE , ITS THE ARCHITECT IN ME ! )
I offered many intelligent points of view. They are the following:
i) You are a bunch of glory hunters.
THANKYOU ! GLORY TASTES SWEET – DEAFEAT TASTES WORSE
ii) You don’t get behind the team.
OF COURSE WE DO BUT WE ARE NOT NAIVE ENOUGH TO BELIEVE LIKE YOU
WE HAVE A TITLE BEATING TEAM THIS SEASON
iii) You have a herd mentality. You scapegoat a number of players, and everybody follows suit.
QUITE THE OPPOSITE , I REGULARLY DISAGREE WITH EVERYONE
iv) You don’t accept the reality that we have to live within our means, unlike Chelsea and Manchester United and now Manchester City.
THEY ARE STILL LIVING WITHIN THERE MEANS AS THEY ARE STILL AFLOAT AND WINNING TITLES TO BOOT ! IF THEY HAVE RICH SUGAR DADDYS , ITS US WHO SHOULD BE JEALOUS , BECAUSE BEING 5TH ON THE TABLE CURRENTLY ISNT A LIE
v) You have proved to be wrong, consistently, on players. You said that Denilson was not good enough to be an Arsenal player. The OPTA stats, not only in the premiership but in the european league show that he is one of the top midfielders for assists, passing, winning fouls.
IVE ALWAYS LIKED DENILSON AND I EVEN CLAIMED PRE SEASON HE WOULD BE THE GOTO MAN FOR ARSENE IN THE DM POSITION . ASK PEDRO
vi) You make no comparisons to previous Arsenal teams under Terry Neil and GG. These teams were consistently outclassed at the top european level. You believe that the current Arsenal team, whilst going up a level, is perversely inferior to a lot of those teams. The opposite is true.
HAVE WE EVER WON IN EUROPE ?
viii) You make naive comments with respect to player acquistion and transfers. Arsenal is a star factory, not a purchaser of stars.
WELL MAYBE YOU LIKE REFERRING TO THE ARSENE TEXT BOOK FOR THAT QUOTE
BUT THE ‘STAR FACTORIES’ HAVE WON THE EPL FOR THE PAST 4 YEARS ON A ROW ..
SO WHOS BEING NAIVE NOW ABOUT THE CONCEPT ?
ix) You believe that you are justified to slag off the team because of high season ticket prices. You believe that the board should spend more because Chelsea and Manchester United are doing so, even if it defies financial reality.
MAKING A SURPLUS ON THE TRANSFER MARKET FOR THE PAST 4 YEARS IS HARDLY COMPETING WITH ANYONE LIKE THE CHEV’S IS IT ?.. HULL – SUNDERLAND SPEND MORE THAN US !
IT ISNT A GOOD SIGN WHEN A TOP 4 TEAM HANDS OVER TOO ITS BOARD A SURPLUS EVERY YEAR IS IT ? I MEAN WE DO PLAY FOOTBALL ?DONT WE ? THIS ISNT MONOPOLY
x) You never factor in form, injuries and confidence. Eboue was coming back from injury, and out of form, but you slaughtered him. Never mind that he was very good at the start of the season.
WE DIDNT SLAUGHTER HIM THE CROWD DID !
xi) You don’t challenge moronic comments,
WHAT AM I DOING NOW THEN ? but you quite happily delete posts that don’t agree with any anti-Wenger or anti-Arsenal sentiment. Some of the comments on here are so utterly ludicrous it defies belief.
YOUR RIGHT ABOUT THE LAST ONE ! YOUR 11 COMMENTS ARE TOTALLY LUDICROUS
Morning all, hoping to see good game today. Vela and Nasri have got to start playing together from the start. I’d go for Nasri-Ramsey-Denilson-Vela in midfield with Ade redeeming himself up front and RVP scoring 2 or 3
I don’t want to see Diaby or Song in the line up, we look good at the back now, it’s time to play our football again and for that to happen we need to play the right players.
Geoff – I like the Ousmanov story, I hope it works out, it’d do us good and show that man cares (a bit).
Farmer – if you don’t like the blog and don’t like the comments posted on it, why do you keep coming back to it??
George Graham was the first manager in the English 1st Division(as it was then) to go against trends & employ the sweeper as most clubs in Europe had done for years. There was no boring long ball style, Arsenal had 60-70% of possession per game mostly & won a Title after 18 long years.
What is wrong with George Graham, he also won a double as a player. Wenger played left back, in the sheds, when he was @ playing age.
GG = 1 European Title
AW = 0 European Title
Farmer
know your history if you want to be a true Goooooooooner
Yes GG9 your so correct , i think he was referring too wengers current reign however …
but you just have to love someone who starts off by saying
I offered many intelligent points of view.
i) You are a bunch of glory hunters.
hehehehe
Well.. so after reading your comments, it boils down to the fact that you are saying that the £1500 stumped for a season ticket gives an expectation that is not matched by the current level of play on the pitch.
This is a fair view, and I accept that.
However, does it mean that you should be allowed to scapegoat players, slag off the team, slag off the board and slag off Wenger ?
That farmer bloke upset a few people. There was an akb on last night slating geoff. Why do they bother?
pls bring in ashavin and any oda player
We don’t slag off the board… we highlight poor players that are contributing to the lack of success and we have the right to constructively criticise the manager if he makes bad decisions.
You even highlighted a poor decision by talking about the Eboue left midfield debacle.
If we wrote a blog without being constructive and we backed everyone… no one would read the blog, because it wouldn’t be based in reality.
Arsenal.com is probably the best place for someone like you… it’s all pro Wenger over there.
Geoff, want to take you to task on one player you mentioned earlier. Chris Wreh. Yes he was limited technically (about the same as Eboue) but he came in during the 98 run in and scored in a lot of 1-0 wins, so I think is a bit of a legend in the same way El Pel is, mainly for doing Gillespie in the final in 87.
Hey Pedro, I’m back, what the fuck are you giving that goat fucker oxygen for, I don’t, let him crawl back under his stone, he won’t be going to watch the Arsenal because he’s never left the barn he lives in, he’s never been to watch a game.
Sean this is the last time I give you air time, fuck off.
ZorrO he did ok but he’s never been one of the best young players in the world and that was my point.
Well, I wanted to see if he had anything intelligent to say… but it boiled down to what it always boils down to with AKB’s… you can’t criticise anything Arsene, becuase he knows best.
I think his comments were suitably answered, now he can go somewhere else.
I have had a run in or 2 with Geoff over my opinion, but that is just because it takes time to understand that because it’s a blog and the written word, it is harder sometimes to understand why people can have such strong opinions. A bit like Irish last night, I still don’t like seeing some of the guys calling AW a twunt etc, and I don’t see that as being particularly useful, but the same people always have informed intelligent comments to make too, so it just takes some getting used to. I think some fans on here have opinions that are just as strong and forceful as those of the AKB’s and that they are just at different ends of the scale.
farmer
its a free country !
having an opinion isnt something to be communistic about …
we havent had the same punch in the midfield this season as previous years gone by…
we have lost points too teams that is not deemed acceptable by previous years as a measuring stick . Something lacks , and if it didnt we would be still in the top 4 .. not fighting for the very existence of C.L football next season .
Some players lack the experience to head our illustrious team ! ,wenger continually swapping and changing players about like diaby on the wing and eboue from RM too DM then right back ..
also the crowd gave him a bollocking 1st !!! remember that .. and you can debate if its justified or not .. thats why we blog …
but i would prefer young theo any day too eboue at RM .. and im sure currently there are even better right wingers than both of them out there .. its about being objective , not selective .
also i believe geoff pays 3 k a year for his season ticket .. the price of a years petrol for a small car as so lovingly described by Dennis ! S o for fans its a big deal when there beloved arsenal is playing hull at home and gets teared a new asshole ! the has to wait an hour and a half to get the train home ..
people are human we are not robots .. critiquing our team doesnt mean we arent loyal fans , or why would we be here ?
People I don’t write a blog to have some pony arsed dipstick to bad mouth me, anyone can come on here and debate, but the minute they slag a Grover, any Grover, they get dissed.
Quite funny listening to Hughes talking about his plans for City, he’s not a manager any cunt can buy a team with unlimited budgetory constraints, even farmer Giles could, Kaka’s not even the worlds best player!
I would like to refer back to this Farmer chap.
He had some good points to make. None that I agree with, but nonetheless, he made his points well and without aggression.
I am sure that his usual attempts to post deserve to be binned, but at least he entertained me on a dull morning.
Anyone seen the team yet ?
Thanks for letting him on Pedro
It was completely as I expected, all of his points whilst well put were flawed and bullshit.
It shows that they just throw judgement without actually reading the blog for a while and getting to know its regulars.
I wont answer all of his points as I think you have all pretty much coverered them, but I dont think we scapegoat players at all. I dont think it is a personal attack, it is just critiqued comments about whether or not a player is good enough. If there is an element of scapegoating it is because some of the players are simply not good enough to play at this level. And when these players performances lead to more dropped points and crap football, I am going to have a rant about it.
I think you have the choice now Farmer Gooner, you are positive and maybe you can drop the abuse and contribute your positive views to the site (WE do have some very positive posters) or just move on to a Site that will give some all round back patting views and posts regardless of how shit the players play.
I personally will stick here and continue being a realist. I will post good things when I see Good things and will post bad things when I see bad things. But please one last point, dont for one minute think that I am not 100% behind whoever starts our games. When it comes to match day, I am as passionate as it gets.
Raddy he sends his comment in and his name is Geoffsacunt, do you find that intelligent?
Good point about Kaka , Geoff.
If the deal goes through, it will seriously put the shits up Real in their attempts to buy Ronaldo.
Not at all Geoff.
The man obviously has a screw loose.
not intelligent but the name part is quite funny lol.
anyway back to footy, i think it’ll be a close 2-1 win to us
He gives a ad name to farmers, usually quite joyous people.
All of his points are not facts or even correct observations of the site and its comments etc. They are al just his opinion and have nothing to back them up.
I am a relatively new fan so i am still learning but like to think i know quite a bit already. If he is likewise (a new-ish fan) then its an insult to newer fans that he doesnt do research or read about the history of the club to better his knowledge and prevent himself from embarrasing(sp) himself.
I know we won the cup winners cup but thats about it. I was only about 4 at the time and was a long way off being the gooner im proud to be now. Anyone care to give a brief history lesson?
Yeah I don’t get it either PTG, what’s wrong with saying some players aren’t good enough… also what’s funny is that there’s no logic to his comments whatsoever, some guys will say I think song’s shit and he will come back call u a cunt for it. And then say we should be more constructive… wtf?
Geoff,
Calling you that just lacks class, and fully justifies why you dont let him on. Obviously we dont get to see the shit you and Pedro get sometimes.
These people obviously have no Social Skills,
afternoon all… hows everyone doing
You got that right Pat, thanks Raddy, still this twit has had his day in the sun, he won’t get another chance.
he might not be a farmer…hmmnnn
Pat just for the record he sent a comment titled Geoffsatosser and all it said on it was Pats a tosser.
Obviously enough said.
How reliable is the upson medical source?? I’d be absolutely shocked if we signed upson, for a number of reasons, as well as if west ham got first option on bendtner, considering the top european clubs that want him, but you never know! I’d be pretty annoyed if the deal went through!
I’m really hoping for an out of the blue defensive mid signing, eduardo or sagna like, hopefully he’ll be as good too
I would rather we bring Phil back and keep Bendtner than lose Bendtner for a 29yo Upson.
yeah same stu, upson isn’t even that good, i’d be shocked if wenger went against his policy of never signing back players who left, and against the fact he already stated he isn’t going to sign a centre back, not to mention let bendtner go who I think will play a bigger role in the second half of the season, for the ok defender that is matthew upson
The best and cheapest defensive decision that the club can make is to bring Phil and/or Keown back. That would sort out the defence for now.
Almunia needs to be louder, more aggressive and more controlling of his defence.
and Arshavin would go a long way to helping us score more and generqlly be better attackwise.
All we need then is a DM. Maybe Westermann of Schalke?
realgooner, not really an apt name.
i think we all support the team first and foremost,through the good the bad and the ugly.
to me it is being subjective to critisise various players because they just aren’t good enough, as we support the team. not as some sites say, fuck off and support chelsea.
i would love to come on here every day with sublime comments as to how the team are playing.we are in downfall and everyone i know who knows even an iota about football can see it.changes have to be made otherwise we will just become another p.l. club. it is blindly obvious that the board/wenger are just not telling the fans who line their pockets the truth.
I see the Fat Uzbek’s PR team have been busy at paying hacks at the S*n again.
Erm, Arshavin is at a Russian club soooooo obviously he he’s gonna broker the deal…. Bollocks!
He’s a fat slimy gangster and is trying to ingratitate himself with Gooners any way he can.
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Angry he owns part of the company that own Zenit, so he’s using his influence, or so they say.
I think critism of Arsenal players/manager/board/tea lady has come a lot easier for even the most rose tinted (er that’ll be me then!) of Gooners this season.
Geoff;
Yeh I read that bit, but I also noticed that the quotes from Zenit had absolutely no mention of him!
PR spin, IMO fella
er thats tinted!
GM, its just the same shit as usual. Obviously only mancs are important because they are all true fans who live and breath football.
Sing when your winning fits perfectly with the typical united fan. Banter is non existant with them.
On a weekend that united win and we happen to get a negastive result its all they talk about. But should the opposite occur they dont care. Its as though they only watch matches that they win and is they lose they claim not to even be a big enough fan to care.
Stu;
I think Kolo and JD can become a good pairing given time. Altho I’d love Keown back at t’club!
BTW, who the fook is Westermann???
i don’t know anything about westermann stu. I don’t want to speculate on the dm, because i’ve got my mind sent on us making a completely unexpected sagna/eduardo signing as soon as a player has mentioned my head decides we won’t sign him!
agree about phil, though i’m sure we don’t have the option to bring him back, but if he’s surplus to requirements at milan maybe they’ll send him back. I’m sure if the agger deal had happened he would’ve returned, hopefully they’re just waiting to sign someone else, then gonna let him return to us!
i dont think wenger has any intensions of selling bretna he has said several times that he is not in the market for defender,dj is lookionjg better and better toure looks to be getting better gallas and dj have great partnership and sylevostor is not spectacualy but looks solid and is very experienced and bretna looks to be getting better. i do hope ashivin comes but 1-2 players are needed arsenal are looking very solid at the back so far and arsenal have always been great towards the business end of the season
Westermann is a 25yo defender who is very capable of playing DM. He is now a Germany regular and can play any defensive role, be it CB or either full back. He loves a long shot too. For further info just google him or wiki or whatever. Very good footballer too.
Leon… keep Bendtner, sell Gallas and Silvestre. Other than that i suppose your right?
Ha Ha
That does not surprise me at all Geoff, although there are two Pats on here now, so it could have been either or both of us.
I think the Mancs will win the league easily this year, and to be honest, I would probably prefer them to any of the others. They are already miles ahead history wise, yet I am quite pleased that the Scousers have never won the premiership and the Chavs will be level with us if they do win it. Hopefully all three of them will be exposed for Match Fixing or something.
As for Usmanov being involved in the Arshavin Negotiations, Well I would not put it past him. I am sure he has made a few calls to his old mates, and if he hasnt then he fucking should have, after all he is our largest shareholder. Like I said earlier the more billionaires we have the safer we are as we are not that affected then if we lose one of our owners. I think we could build a pretty good relationship with Zenit out of all this and why we are at it, lets invite them to the Emirates Cup as a Sweetner.
I am surprised the press are not speculating too much about how Milan are going to spend their money. The Arsenal Stadium Mystery is about to get a huge deposit in return for Adebayor.
stu no way we can afford to lose gallas, even if he’s not the best around the changing room he’s our best defender by some distance, we can’t affotd to lose anyone
Is westermann good on the ball? Our dm needs to be good on the ball, as well as being good defensively, if we end up with someone retarded on the ball we’ll be no better than having song there! Just wonder because generally that’s the case when centre backs play defensive mid, they’re pants on the ball, like kompany.
PTG;
Yep, the bidding starts at £30 mill for Ade in the summer if Kaka goes to City!
I hope that Farmer cunt is still reading. You are the true definition of AKB, and you are the boards dream. The propaganda machine arsenal.com was designed to target sheep like you (pardon the pun).
You say we’re not true fans, i would suggest its much harder to be critical of the team you’ve supported for 22 years than just blindly support the current regime as you do.
You mention ‘living within our means’ – well we have £93m in the bank, and we made £5 from the sale of diarra, therfore we can spend £97.9m today and we are living within our means. No-one wants us to spend that much but a bit of quality that keeps Eboue, Song, Almunia firmly out of the first team would be nice.
We want to compete with the barcas, madrid’s and villas of this world and with our current team its like lambs to the slaughter (oops another pun). If the aforementioned players became good enough to do that id be as happy as a pig in shit (sorry). But as arsenal fans we know shit when we see it, but hey (or should that be Hay) you obviously dont.
Ill leave you with alan partridges take on farmers;
“Ive seen the big-eared boys on farms….
…If you see a lovely field with a family having a picnic, and theres a nice pond in it, you fill in the pond with concrete, you plough the family into the field, you blow up the tree, and use the leaves to make a dress for your wife whos also your brother.”
YEs whenever i have seen him he has been very able with the ball at his feet. Scores a good few for a defender too. Very good at dribbling and a think he is a good passer. Plus naturally being a defender he wouldnt be caught out up field too much. Just what we need. And his german efficiency would be a good addition too imo.
what’s being a farmer or living in the countryside got to do with anything, i live in the countryside and take objection to it, however much of an idiot the bloke is it isn’t because he doesn’t like in the city!
yeah sounds good stu, though i’m ruling him out, because i’m convinced who we sign will be someone i’ve never heard of, nor discussed!
Angry, have you seen the Milan Fans, they are not happy bunnies
They will want that money spent now, not in the Summer. They are struggling like us for CL football as well, so the bids will hit us the day after Kaka goes.
And on that, I think I would be gutted if we lost Cesc, but if he was being sold for 100m I think it would soften the blow.
I just hope we dont bend over and take one for the team with Ade. If he is to go, then I hope we hold out for a big chunk of that money
Still pissed off that we let Palacios go to Wigan coz we didnt need him! I have not seen enough of him, so dont know what he’s like, its just that we obviously could have done with either him, or the £15 mill!
I dunno pat, i’d be willing to part with more or less anyone for 100 mil, but only if we used the 100 mil to sign 4/5 top top quality players! Or just three world class players for 33 mil a piece, casillas, benzema, de rossi would do me
PTG;
IF a bid for Ade came in this month, we’d have to act effin fast IF AW decided to sell. But this season, I think he’d be a lot easier to replace than last year.
Zaki, Santa Cruz, Owen are a few already playing and not cup teied either. Im sure theres a fewe more about too. Altho I really cant see him going in jan fella.
Hi there grovers, enjoyed the post!
Upson ah? Could be a good target, can somewhat play a multi-role as CD and CB..
I think Arsenal are in a good position given that Wengers been doing his little, BIG ‘youth experiment’, 5th is ok if they learned their mistakes from the first half of the season we sould see an improvment… Todays result? I predict 0-2 for Arsenal!!
stu
i do think gallas silvestor will go just not now in the summer its,wenger will want to keep his team together ,if gallas get back to form he showed while playing at chelsea you are not going find mush better defender than that plus he has formed a great partnerhsip with dj and if he gets someone in now they take time get partnership and now its not the time for that, the fact is alwyas better to buy players in the summer its alot cheaper the defence is looking alot better and you do busness in jan if urgently need players and in defence there pretty good
guys
want to watch this (dont want to join Setanta). Can anyone recommend any sites that I can get to see it?
Thanks in advance
angry why on earth would we want zaki, santa cruz, or owen?! If a big bid came in for ade, and it’d have to be very big, we’d probably sell, but we’d only buy if we could get someone quality, otherwise bendtner, vela, eduardo would step up alongside vp, or nasri/diaby/arshavin playing behind vp up top by himself, rather than sign average-decent players!
I am not sure Angry
Once that deal goes through, there is going to be a chain reaction of money going around. The problem is that to maximise our cut, we will have to sell Ade now. If we leave it to the summer, The 100m Transfer will not be so fresh in the mind, and AC Milan will claim those funds had dissapeared elsewhere. If we could get 35m and I am only speculating here, i would love us to chance our arm on Benzema or Villa or even as you say take a chance on Owen who could be picked up cheaply given the length of his contract left.
As for Palacios. I am not gutted. I dont think you could ever of seen a Tottenham coming into him a year later and offering 15m. He is not worth that at all, I would value him at around 6 or 7 but every club in the world now knows that the Spuds pay over the odds for players and it will kill them in the end. I think if anyone should be pissed off it should be Birmingham.
yeah i agree leon, there’s no way gallas or silvestre, or anyone will leave now, but i’d be surprised to see them still here after the summer. As long as we sign arshavin, and a dm, I think we’ll be set for the summer except for centre backs, which is where we’ll focus. The midfield and attack will be fine, though if ade goes in the summer we could sign someone, but it’ll depend on how bendtner, vela, eduardo have come on in the second half of the season, if they’ve come on nicely then we can sell ade, pocket the cash, and use it all on our defence
yeah i agree pat, i’m not gutted, because he wasn’t good enough to get near our squad when we could’ve signed him, and if we’d signed him, and he hadn’t played, he still would’ve left for fuck all. Just as i’m not gutted about losing average players like muamba and sidwell, who would never be close to being good enough for us.
Here you go Jraynor
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=28591&part=sports
You should get some good quality feeds today as the game is a late kick off so not in any competition for broadcast.
I am lucky, I am with Virgin Media on Cable now so get Setanta for free as part of the package.
magic, thanks for that Pat
True A
I am more gutted that we failed to hang on Flamini and Hleb in recent times and that for some reason Players no longer seem to get that affection for the club like the Pires’s, Vieira’s, Bergkamp’s and Henry’s did.
Those players were truly World Class yet found their real home at Arsenal, how come we dont have that pull anymore?
If you have it, I would go for the Sopcast links on Star Sports or Fox Soccer. They have been good to me over the years.
i feel either gallas or toure will the problem they are to similar and they dont get along and more importantly niether of them are preperd to sit on the bench,arsenal dont deserve to win the title but they are still in with shot but its game by game for them
Ah it’s different though pat, I wouldn’t expect flamini or hleb to have that affection for the club.
Flamini was bit part and pretty average until the final season except for when playing left back in the champs league, and i would’ve been very happy to see the back of him before the start of last season, he was someone who i never wanted to see in the line-up! After one season i wouldn’t expect him to have a great affiliation with the club. Hleb wasn’t here for long enough to develop that great an affiliation, and got the feeling he wanted to play in all the top leagues before his career finished, so it was time to move on for him, however devastating that was for us!
The likes of kolo, cesc, vp, clichy will still have that feeling of being at home i’m sure, as the bergkamps, henrys etc did
leon i think kolo has been persuaded to stay, probably spending a fair bit of time on the bench once gallas returns, because he’s been told gallas is going in the summer.
A
The fact I suggested those players (as well as effin Ken Jones too BTW!) is more to do with them filling Ade’s boots this season, than me thinking they are top quality.
Altho, Id taker a punt on Owen even if Ade stays as he will ALWAYS score goals, in big games, likkle games kick abouts in the park, you name it!
Fuck, we shud be looking to get him on a free come summer anyways. Now that price has gotta appeal to Wenger!!!
So this palacios fella… he’s erm, a worse player than Song or Eboue then….. I’ll get my coat!
oh ok, yeah fair dos angry, though the only one i’d rather put in the team right now would be zaki, and that’s still only a maybe! Santa cruz has been pretty pants this season, and owen still nabs goals but isn’t good enough to play for a top team like us anymore, i’d rather have bendtner in, or vela thrown in than santa or owen! Though if we could steal a benzema or villa i’d be happy!
AFC still have that pull, during the summer we targetted between Nasri and B Arfa which were the two best upcomming high profif players in Ligue 1.. Maybe we should have signed more players, but the pull is still there.
he’s worse than eboue angry imo! He’s not really a defensive mid, so i don’t see what we would’ve done with him if we’d signed him, though he would add some strength to the team, hardly a great passer of the ball though!
No he is a better player than both of them, but when he came for a trial, we also had Flamini, Gilberto, and were in the process of getting Diarra.
I still would not want him though, Like Song, I dont believe he is good enough for Arsenal. I am shocked that some idiot is going to pay 15m for him.
Oh right, thanks for the info A.
Benzema would be effin top fella! But I just cudnt see it happening in Jan.
A player who knows the league, language etc would be a safer bet this month IMO.
I would take Owen. He still has some class and if he could stay fit then I think the would be a handy squad player.
I would certainly give him the opportunity to fight for his place, and I would feel a lot more confident bringing him on as a sub than our current options.
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he willstay for now but gallas is comming back soon and the question is will as gallas get his place back and how games toure gets. i also think ade will get his form back its very hard to keep up the same form as he had last season its the same rinanaldo
You are right Angry
And I think if Milan do offer a ridiculous fee next week, and Ade goes, then Wenger would hold onto the majority of the cash until the summer. I think he would look for an Owen or maybe even a loan signing to get us through the season.
If get an offer 30m+ though, I really think we should take it.
I was watching the Spanish Football on SS last week though and they did say that they would not be surprised if Villa left this month. Valencia have payments due apparently and no current way of paying them.
Yeah i agree I couldn’t see benzema happening in the summer, or at all tbh as he’d cost more than we’d ever be willing to pay for one player unfortunately!
I agree about a player who knows the league, but we’ll only want them until the summer, so wouldn’t be willing to pay big money, and santa cruz has been pretty attrocious this season, scored the same number of premiership goals as bendtner despite bendtner playing much less than half the minutes, and being booed etc! Owen would never be able to play with us, and we want to get back to playing our style of play. Zaki you never know! Though obviously wigan have a loan deal for him until the end of the season, so he wouldn’t be buyable anyways.
sorry i meant in jan re benzema, not the summer
leon i’m pretty sure gallas will come in for toure when he’s back from injury, and toure will just play the occasional game between now and the rest of the season, but gallas will go in the summer and kolo will be back first choice, hopefully alongside a top top world class big centre back.
I hope ade scores goals between now and the end of the season, so we get more for him in the summer!
Santa Cruz will be at Man City this time next week, the Player himself has said he wants to go there now.
I still think Santa Cruz was last seasons one season wonder and Zaki is this years. I would not want either of them.
Owen is the answer, he knows the league, he still has class and is the shining light in a shit Newcastle team and you could get him for peanuts. and he could be an interim solution until either Bendtner is ready, Theo moves upfront (Owen to teach Theo?), and the young pretenders come through.
Did we not make toure Vice Captain? Surely Gallas will not take his place.
I hope we dont revert to the Gallas Toure partnership though
I dont think we would A
If we want to get the most for Ade, it will be within days of Kaka going to City. That 100m has to be fresh in the mind.
The Market will deflate again by the summer and we would probably get a lot less for him.
You’re probably right on Santa Cruz, as wellas Zaki being a flash in the pan. Altho i do think Zaki has more to his game than RSC. I never understood why we were sposed to be in for him last summer when Ade was off? He;s a good taget man, but soooooooo slow! His goals per game in germnay were shite, so this seasons probably about right for him!
Villa is an exceptional player, but do we really want another small lightweight fella? Oh, ………..we do!
yeah i agree pat, though zaki is doing it at the moment, so would maybe keep doing it for us til the end of the year, though obviously it wouldn’t be a possibility anyways.
agree about santa cruz too, look what happened to benni mccarthy, they’re very similar situations apart from benni didn’t leave before being found out, santa cruz will do marginally better than city’s signing of benjani because he was having his one good season last year!
wenger said very specifically “kolo will be captain WHEN HE PLAYS” (whilst cesc is out) and i think it was very significant that he specified the when he plays bit, because he won’t play ahead of gallas when he’s back from injury. Just what i read into it, could be completely wrong though!
PTG;
Kolo’s captain till Cesc gets back, so he mustve been told he’ll be a regular shirley? Otherwise we’ll have yet another Capi this season! Havin Gallas on the bench will do em both good! Well maybe just Kolo!
i dunno pat, when it comes to milan i think they could still spend silly money in the summer. It depends whether they choose to buy now or wait for the summer. If they buy now they will pay more inflated prices, but they’ll still pay big prices in the summer.
If they came in for ade now i think we’d need a good 30-40 million to part mid season, but in the summer i could see us selling him for 20-30, though you never know if santa cruz is realised to be pants by the summer city could give us 40-50 mil!!
Although we’d get more money now I think we’d rather lose ten mil and have him for the rest of the season, because we currently can’t necessarily rely on bendtner, vela, or eduardo
angry kolo is captain till cesc gets back “when he plays”, i still think it was very significant wenger worded it like that
Pedro Says:
January 17, 2009 at 9:29 am
He never says he signs players for them all to come good… he just creates a production line… sells off the poor ones and keeps the good ones. Look at how many ex Arsenal players are playing in the Prem.
I’m not saying he is perfect, but he has quite a lot of success with players compared with other managers.
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Great Pedro, so he creates players that help average teams beat us yeay!
Hi all, I am late today and seem to have missed all the fun!
Pedro, Geoff, top marks to you for letting the farmer man argue his point of view, for what its worth. If nothing else, you now know how strong your fan following is. I am addicted to Le Grove – great work!
Seem to have also missed the other big story of today – TROUBLE IN PARADISE???
Geoff and Pedro on opposite sides? Never seen that before, but fun to read!
Pedro, I back you (by and large). You are, by no means, an AKB.
We will see A
I honestly think a bid will come in for him next week, so I guess it is a watch this space. I reckon they will offer 30m as an opener as well. Imagine if we could squeeze 40 out of them.
oh btw, guy I sit’s next to was friends with Upson last time he was here and said the reason he left was he hated Wenger, loved the fans and the club but hated Wenger because of his favoritism of certain players… …quite how he would like to be lining up against song on a daily basis escapes me!
My spirits will lift if we have even one of Arshavin and Eduardo on the bench for Cardiff.
And if we got the money, Fuck the striker, I would spend a large chunk of it on Essien and get Owen for a couple of Million.
I love my little dream world
Did anyone else see that Mad Man Scolari has invited bids for his players and all but admitted that they have lost team spirit in the dressing roon
BTW, I am disappointed not to see any midfield players who can be Cesc’s friends. A large part of last season was due to the strong bond between Cesc, Hleb and Flamini.
I hope he has a plan for Alonso somewhere…maybe in the summer when prices fall further.
Oh and Gourcuff in the deal from Milan for Ade.
A clean sheet (JD and Toure playing) and three points today will ensure we go into the Everton game confident. 4 wins out of the next 4 league matches will be a fitting reply to Agbon La Whore,
ptg, please add Buffon to your list.
PTG; IF there was any chance gettin Essien, then what a signin, but the nChavs will want to recoup most if not all their outlay.
A; Maybe the way Wenger said it was significant, maybe not. We’ll find out when/if gallas comes back.
Maybe Milan will bid for him!
Wenger did try to sign Essien, but the Chavs lured him with their filthy lucre.
Geoff, I would prefer Denilson to Eboue in your line up.
A clean sheet for Fabianski, an amazing defensive display from both CBs, an assist for clichy and Sagna and a hattrick for Bendtner. And a Wilshere and Vela tearing both oppo full backs apart. That would be a good day. And Ade not playing or mising sitter after sitter,.
this £14m transfer for Palacios is really starting to piss me off, Wenger is scouting for the whole league these days. He thought he was just doing his little chum Steve Bruce a favour, well it’s going to end up backfiring on us whether the fella goes to United or Spurs, he will probably get the winner against us whoever he is playing for.
That’s £14m we could have put towards a good DM.
Yeah to be fair i can see that happening too pat, and i think we would be willing to sell, wouldn’t it be amazing if we did get 40 mil for him!! I don’t know if we’d bring anyone in as there wouldn’t be time and i’m not sure wenger would be fussed about the likes of owen, i don’t think he could play with rvp, and he’d cost a bit to make newcastle let him go, even with his contract expiring, because they need him badly.. I could see us playing 4-5-1 type formation alot if ade went, diaby, nasri, or arshavin behind rvp, or bendtner or vela playing alot more. I’d be happy enough with that!
gunner8 i get the impression upson was a bit big for his boots, thought he was alot better than he was, though he doesn’t come across like that on the pitch, my old football coach was best mates with him and he gave that impression of him. He did dislike wenger, because he felt he was too good to be on the bench, and should’ve been playing ahead of certain players, which he wasn’t anywhere near as good as at the time imo
Stu, I don’t think Fabianski is ready yet, though he is still better than Manuel.
Don’t want to piss on anyone’s parade, but Hull will be no pushovers.
They will be confident that they can get back to winning ways after a good cup win at Newcastle . And they have proved that we are beatable.
I will be absolutely delighted with a scrappy one goal victory.
I would pick
Fabianski
Sagna Kolo JD Clichy
Wilshere Denilson Diaby? Vela
Bendtner RvP.
I reckon Chavski are open to offers for players at the moment.
There days are numbered, and soon there will be a fire sale of assets. I cant wait.
Essien and Arshavin = a full stadium, lucrative merchandising and a real crack at winning the PL and CL
If Wenger can swallow his pride and re-sign Upson, then more power to his sword. Irish, if you are around, I will take back my support to Rob from last night.
seb it doesn’t work like that, if we had signed palacios we wouldn’t have sold him for 14 million, because he wouldn’t have played for us at all, so we could have maybe got a mil or two for him
yeah pat, gourcuff would be amazing! Though obviously he’s not available until the summer, and if we sign arshavin i don’t think it’ll ever happen. Annoying because I was convinced we let milan have senderos on the basis that we had first choice on gourcuff come the summer!
I wont be suprised if we lose. We are on good form – they are on bad form. So they will probably get a result. Thats just the way things go as of late.
I would love Essien to come.
Prior to his injury he was by far the best DM in the country. I guess I would have to say that Mascherano is the current best DM.
Hi Grovers…. been a while again.
Great post Geoff as always.
I’ve been trying to keep away from football news lately because i just find transfer windows depressing in recent years and every time i get in the car i always here the word Arshavin and it is just pissing me off now… JUST FUCKING SIGN HIM.
Oh and i liked the look of your team Geoff.
Just spent the last hour reading through all the posts and had to comment on that Farmer twit…. i know you said don’t be abusive Pedro but the guy is the definition of twunt.
He says we’re not true fans… no you’re wrong… we are true Arsenal fans… we are just not blinded by the mythical light that shines from Wengers Arse. If you don’t agree with the opinions of people on le-grove then grab your wellies and velcro gloves and fuck off to one of the AKB sites, you’ll feel right at home there…. oh no wait a minute even those sites have started using le-groves philosophy in recent months so your just plain fucked… how about you start supporting sheep hearding as a sport… you may be better equipped in the kowledge department to debate that
Big Rad, I agree.
Phil Brown’s team will come out and put us unde3r pressure the moment we get the ball. Players like Eboue, Song, Diaby, Denilson and Ade, who have no composure on the ball will find it difficult to deal with this. Ramsey will also find it tough. Vela, on the other hand, was built for an opponent like Hull. He will frustrate them and I really hope he gets to start.
that for today stu??
my team would be –
fabianski
sagna toure jd clichy
song denilson
bendtner nasri vela
vp
though i think the actual team will have in almunia, and diaby for vela, possibly ade for bendtner though i wouldn’t be surprised to see bendtner in for ade. Or maybe eboue will play right, nasri left, and diaby central behind vp
Hi Seb
Said it earlier, I could not give a fuck about Palacios. We had no room for him and there is not a crystal ball on the market that Wenger could have bought to see some fool paying 15m for his services in a years time. Spuds are really paying over the odds for him. He has not even scored a goal in the premiership.
He is ok but not worth that much. Only Birmingham should be gutted as they failed to sign him permanently despite him being on loan.
He is not Arsenal Class
Essien is an amazing player and athlete. Can play almost anywhere.
Yes, its decided then, we shall sign him!
I like Essien. He has the work ethic of an ant, the build of a gorilla and the disposition of a bull.
Just checked out Chelsea’s bench today.
Apart from Alex and Cudicini , they really are nothing special. No wonder Big Phil is pissed off
Angry… I am backing your campaign for Essien!
SIGN HIM!
Loner, I like your style.
I would vote for you against PHW!
g-jay – “Mythical light” – LMAO!!!!
We are doing it with the Adebayor money Pedro.
Milan are going to give us 40m for him next week.
Pat, it was last year… he is a wide man… surely he could have been better than Eboue?
haha! Pat… in dream world! Surely they’d go for Villa?
Hey, if we are signing chavs, I would like to see Anelka back. He seems to have mellowed and said a lot of nice things about us fans.
Ade is a certain starter today. We will play long ball to him and play over our midfield, trusting Ade’s pace and control will cause them problems
As if …………….
Pedro how’s things dude… have you guys been keeping up the friday joke afternoon tradition while i’ve been gone?
Kaka’s not going anywhere. He is a smart cookie. He did not grow up poor and money does not have the same hold on him as it does on a Cole.
Pedro;
Yeh, me and Pat have decided to flog Ade to Milan for £35 mill and with that we’ll give the Chavs £20m for Essien, a couple of mill for Owen, with a bit left over… sorted!
I certainly am Pedro, it is the best place to be in the Transfer Window.
We were going to sign Villa, but I think we should spunk the Ade money on Essien. That is where the greater need is. We are at odds over the Ade replacement though. I want Owen for about 4m.
We should have signed him last Jan. PDT
what games are people watching for the 3 o clock kick offs? anyone got decent streams??
Ade is going to score a Hat-trick today and his value will be up to 45m
Goonerjay! Good to see you in the comments! We’ve missed you jokes!
When are you going to make a consistent return?
A, Bendtner needs to spend some more days on the bench to get his desire levels up. I have to confess that I won’[t like to see him go off on loan.
Pat… I’m backing you to make dream world tangible!
A the question is more why is he apparently good enough for United but wasn’t good enough for us?
The fact is he is now valued at £14m by two of the most experienced Premiership managers, yet we couldn’t find a place for him in our squad, a squad that is hardly overflowing with midfield talent at the moment. We should have signed him for exactly the kind of predicament we have found ourselves in currently. Instead we just shrug and phone Brucey to give him a tip off.
And considering how allegedly hard up we are, even a few million would have been something – and let’s face it we would have got £5m at least even if he was a bench player for us, he has quality and his value would have risen after signing for us. It’s just stupidity basically, not being able to see a player’s worth.
And Ancelotti was going on this week how Ade suits theit style and they really missed out not gettin him… its gonna happen I tell thee!
GoonerJay !!!
How you doing ? You have been very quiet of late, and Le Grove has missed your sparkling repartee
Seb, I agree with what you are saying there… we shouldn’t buy every player… but a back up wide player would have been handy last year, surely? We weren’t exactly flushed with talent in reserve last year…
With Dudu coming back and RvP beginning to hit his stride, I wouldn’t mind seeing Ade go. But I don’t think anyone will pay more than 10-12m for him.
Angry… let me know when you have a fee agreed with Milan and i’ll save you moey on plane tickets and carry the big useless twat myself… the guy couldn’t hit a pigs arse with a cricket bat.
Pedro… i am an Arsenal man through and through… which must explain the inconsistency this season
We cant take on every player we have on trial Seb. we would have a squad of about 500
Going on those lines, I would be more pissed at letting Yaya through than Palacios.
I dont even think Man Ure are that interested in him, certainly not at that price.
I havent seen much of him, but in those games I did, he was not very special at all. I think he is marginally better than Song.
Not bad cheers Raddy…. I’ve got the boss sitting 2 seats away from me now so have to limit the blogging these days… he’s fucking off soon though to sit in another part of the building so i should be back on a more consistent basis soon
I certainly dont think Palacios would have given us much more option on the wing, he would just have been another number. We needed Ribery that summer not Palacios.
Also when I have seen him, He always seemed to be playing in a more central role than a winger.
seb who says he’s good enough for utd?! if he goes there then fair enough, otherwise it’s just his representatives talking him up!
It was the summer of 2007 we could have signed him, we had gilberto, flamini, denilson, diaby, and got diarra in his position, he wouldn’t have even got near the bench, we couldn’t have signed him to sit in the reserves on the off chance that flamini would go on a free, gilberto wanted to go, diarra threw a tantrum etc etc! Even if we had done that, he wouldn’t have developed at all not playing, and wouldn’t be half the player he is now, he wouldn’t be nearly good enough to play for us! We would have sold him for less than we got for muamba!
i disagree pdt, i think bendtner needs to start a series of games playing alongside someone else, to get his confidence and sharpness up, being on the bench is what’s killing him, because he’s the sort of player that needs a run in the team to keep sharp.
three points, clean sheet, three points, clean sheet, three points, clean sheet, three points, clean sheet, three points, clean sheet, three points, clean sheet, three points, clean sheet, three points, clean sheet…..
Goonerjay, that is a bummer… my boss is a gooner, so it doesn’t matter too much. Imagine a spud being your boss?
Plus Pedro the guy is over 5’6″ and built like a brick shithouse unlike the rest of our midfield.
In truth though I’m not saying I wish we had the player, it’s just more sloppy business. We find a player from bloody honduras, where noone else has gone before, then instead of signing him to make a couple of mill profit on, we just pass him on to someone else. You could understand it if we were awash with cash, but we apparently aren’t – it doesn’t add up. Why should other clubs benefit financially from our bad policy?
Did someone mention that Gourcuff fella? I thought we were in for him. Even with Arshavin, we still mite be apparently Senderos is part of the deal.
Yep, Milan said we can only have Gourcuff… if we promise to take Big Phil back!
i dunno pedro, i’d have eboue over palacios as a wide player! Eboue has a far superior goal and assist rating!
does anyone think chelski might go for arshavin now that joe cole is out for the season??
A – thanks for acknowledging me, even if it was to disagree. I was feeling a little invisible there after 18 posts!
People disagree with me, hence I exist!
That is true A, I forgot about that!
PDT, I’m backing the 3 points and a clean sheet today!
Pleased to hear it, Gooner Jay.
Wish I could say that in Latin!
Remember though we would probably have spent a couple of million on him in wages as well. I think Wenger made the right call on Palacios to be honest.
He made the wrong call on Flamini/Diarra though.
haha lovely! John Twat and Joe Baby Cole are injured. Cole is out for the season.
PDT. I refer you to my post of 2.50.
Now who’s invisible !
Pedro my boss is a glory hunting chav who comes from New zealand… so not only do have to put up with his shit with the footy but when England play rugby too… he’s a twat but also a big bloke so i’ll keep that to myself
Well, if JCole is out for the season, we’ll see how committed Roman is. If he doesnt spend a few mill on a replacement, then that#ll speak volumes IMO.
To be fair, i’d take palacios for free now, as he would add power and strength to the midfield, which is something we desperately need, but if we’d signed him back then, he wouldn’t have got near the team, and wouldn’t have developed, so wouldn’t be half the player he is now. He would be another body, but certainly not the player to permanently play there, and i’m sure we’ll sign someone better. We need some height as well as the power and strength, and someone with better ball retention than palacios
Come on Sunderland, beat those jammy Villans per-lease!
pat we signed Bischoff, if we end up getting £14m for him I will dance around the Grove naked.
Wenger’s problem is that he only looks for one kind of player – technical and fast and usually a midget as well. There are other kinds of player out there, and if you find a bargain, why not make use of them? Sign them up, cover your squad, give us some more options, and cash in later.
And frankly I don’t believe he would have been any worse than Baptista was, plus we would have made some money on him. I bet Wigan only paid about £50 for him, or £300million Honduran dollars.
Maybe Chris, but I think Chavski have finished spending
I dont think Abramovich will spend any more than necessary on them for wages. They must still operate on a loss.
cole out for the season is massive! I think we’ll be ahead of them comfortably come the end of the season, third place would be much better than 4th!
anyone watching any of the games?
Big Raddy, I apologize deeply and genuflect in front of you!
Never thought I would ever use the word “genuflect”! Hope I used it right….
At least Baptista scored
Off to watch some footie. Back at half time.
Come on Sunderland
A; I have us top 2 fella! Not watchin any games.
seb height wise palacios is shorter than denilson, song, and diaby….
Seb
I think it is just something that I cant worry my little head over.
We never had him, so I could not give a fuck what he does in his career, and cant feel any bad thoughts about Wenger for not signing Wilson Palacios.
In fact if he had, then i would have been moaning my tits off at the time for taking the cheap option instead of signing Ribery. And if we had I bet he his goal tally would still be 0
Looking at Craig Gordon, I can’t help wondering what Keane saw in him and whether he will be better than Almunia for us?
I still think we need a defensive coach more than a DM. Keown, in my opinion.
i still rate gordon pdt, though i also rated scott carson! I think fabianski will come in soon and never look back
Solidity at the back is a more desirable charateristic than the ability to knock in six goals. We did pretty well on 1-0 once upon a time.
nah pdt, keown couldn’t work miracles, we need a big powerful dm, and keown isn’t going to magically transform any of our current players into that!
Just read some good news guys…. Song is doubtful for today… wooohhoooooo.
I’m that happy i nearly pissed myself
I like Fabianski’s commitment in the few games he has played. He has no fear.
A, Keown had attitude and our defense is sorely lacking in that dept. We need to be combative and aggressive, in the other side’s face all the time. AW and Pat Rice are too gentlemanly to be able to get that side of things going.
sunderland goal, awesome
PDT, A;
If we’re talkin keepers, then Kirkland wud be the one for me.
I’d still love Keown to return, its gotta happen and Bould to be promoted to 1dt team.
If we had a defensive monded DM in front of our present back 4, thatd be a bleedin start
WooHoo! Sunderland!!!
get in sunderland
Go on the Black Cats
meh, like I said, it’s not that I want the player, I know he’s not super top class to use a wengerism, I saw him a few times playing for Birmingham. But the money pisses me off, when it’s in such short supply for us – allegedly – it rankles that we pass over a player who ends up netting a nice little sum for a lower team. That’s all. End of.
4-0 win today.
nah angry, it’s gonna be fabianski coming through, he’ll be much better than kirkland!
First time I played for my school team (this is when I was a tender 12 yrs old), I got whacked in my jewels within the first 5 minutes. (Maybe ten minutes, my eyes still water at the memory).
Learnt a valuable lesson that day.
Today will be a good day!!
still noone got any good streams for games?? or people not looking apart from me?!
A;
I hope Fabianski makes it, I think he deserves a run in the side.
If he doesnt Kirkland wud be my choice…. and, yep, we shall sign him!
Kam just saying that Palacios is running the show versus City. Denilson in the same game was being a non-entity.
Palacios is only 24 as well so he still has alot to come. In a better side he might re-discover his goal scoring instinct as well that he showed in South America.
That was a massive clanger from Wenger imo. Wenger could have bought him and strung him along for a bit, I doubt he would have complained. He would have been more patient than Diarra anyway.
See you folks tomorrow (my time)! 1-0!!!
Chris Kamara thinks everyone’s brilliant tho!!!
paulinho I really didn’t need to hear that!
Seeya
paulinho we played city as a team in complete chaos, wigan are on fire, you can’t compare the two! He isn’t a dm, and has a goal and assist record that makes eboue look like the most productive player ever!
He doesn’t need to be a classic defensive midfielder A. Vieria wasn’t, Giggs isn’t, Carrick isn’t, very few players fit that precise defination.
It’s more about being physical, aggressive, getting up and down the pitch, doing the dirty stuff, having work ethic. He’s by no means a slouch technically either, he’s definately no worse than Denilson or Song in that department.
He would be perfect for us right now.
United fans were saying he was fantastic the other night as well at Old Trafford.
Steve Bruce is not a bad judge of a player and he thinks he will go down as being one of the best in europe. Denilson will never be spoken about in such terms.
I’m gonna check Palacios out on sopcast
paulinho vieira wasn’t because petit held behind him! Utd play a very different style of play. Palacios plays as the more attacking centre mid for wigan, and never gets goals or assists. He has cattermole holding behind him for wigan, he could do a decent job at the minute, rather than song and only alongside denilson, if we could get him for free. But again, if we’d got him for free before, he wouldn’t be half the player he is now, because he would never have played, and it would have stifled his development massively!
paulinho bruce is saying that because he’s trying to get a massive fee for him. Valencia is twice the player palacios is! Palacios is quite a good premiership player, that’s it, he’s nothing special
jay simpson just missed a one on one
Vela, Merida, Nordveidt, Bendtner, etc etc…..
We sign them, send them out on loan, bring them back ready to play.
We could have done exactly the same thing with Willy P.
but whatever
seb he was only going on loan in the first place when he joined birmingham i believe
Speaking of Merida, i think he should play CM while Cesc is out.
Revenge is gonna be sweet!
I kind of hope Turner scores after Van persie has given us the lead. I stand to recoup some money should that happen. Nit much but whatever.
i dunno stu, i don’t think he’s ready yet. Rather see ramsey in there, but at the moment at least until arshavin comes in or we start firing again we can’t afford to put in an inexperienced kid imo
Cattermole is a pretty crap imo, he’s a scrapper but not a very good one. That makes Palacios even better, given that he’s not playing alongside class.
I wouldn’t say he’s an attacking midfielder either. Wigan rely on Valencia for penetration and set pieces. I don’t think Palacious is given the license to go forward really, he’s just there to supplement their defensive midfield and Wigan very rarely get overrun in there.
Ransey is pretty anonymous(sp) when he plays. I just feel at nearly 19 Merida isnt getting the same amount of chances that much worse players get.
Merida is easily a more accomplished passer and player too.
if palacios was good enough as a dm sort of player then he would be the more defensive player of the centre mids, not the more attacking player…. He isn’t the dm, they have someone else in to do that job, and doesn’t score or set up goals, why’s he good again?!
Palacios wouldnt solve any problems. He is just like Alonso but with none of the ability. Alonso needs Mascherano to do the work just like Palacios needs Catermole.
ascherano is defo the best because he can always win the ball and make the simle pass.
Hello!
United dont want Palacios. It´s obvious that it was “mind games” from rednose before wednesdays match against Wigan. He does it al the time….
yeah i agree stu, we need the player who helps the centre mid, everyone just talks about the players who already have a holding mid, because having someone behind you gives you the freedom to stand out more, but they couldn’t do that job alongside cesc.
merida will be great, but i think we have to accept that there isn’t anyone who could directly and adequately replace cesc, and because of that rather than find the person who could best do what cesc did, we need to shut up shop and have a more solid side
Old rd nose was sposed to be signing WP and Valencia, just before the Wigan game last season too!
scholari has announced he will listen to offers for ANY player,are the mad days over at the bridge.
i agree with raddy,essien (type) player would be awesome and my number one priority.
upson, doesn’t go with the grain to resign players in fact i don’t see a bedtner/swop or whatever deal.
I agree that stability is vital right now but we are just too dull going forward. Why not pick 1 keeper and 6 defensive players that allow 4 to attack all the time. I we do go for Denilsong in the middle then pick 4 out and out attackers, not Eboue and Diaby out wide. We might as well not play anyone out there because they rarely contribute anything. Just start with 9 and make it more bearable.
Said it above A:
“It’s more about being physical, aggressive, getting up and down the pitch, doing the dirty stuff, having work ethic. He’s by no means a slouch technically either, he’s definately no worse than Denilson or Song in that department.”
He’s the equal of Denilson technically and yet he doesn’t defend like he’s given sedatives pre match. That’s a pretty big improvement.
Stu, Liverpool play a tight three man midfield so Alonso has the security of Mascherano and Gerrard just in front. Wigan play 4-4-2 with only two central players so Palacios needs to do more defensive work.
He’s alot more hardworking and aggressive than Alonso. Alonso and Cattermole in midfield would be joke. Hats off to Palacios for making Cattermole look respectable, rather than Palacious being grateful to him.
Just thought with West Brom winning, if they can hold on and if Blackburn can beat Newcastle then the Spuds will be bottom tonight
The spuds are sure to go down. All that money spent on fuck all. hahahahahahaha
Cant believe we are talking about Wilson Fucking Palacios
It would have been a signing that lacks ambition as much now as it would have been two years ago, and more fool the spuds that are going to spend 15m for him.
We would of moaned our tits of at the signing if it had happened two years ago and if he was going to the Spuds for his true value of 5-6m then it would have barely registered a comment. We should be laughing about another crazy money signing for the spuds instead of crying over spilt milk about Wenger for not signing another average player.
And I am sticking to that even if he does score a hat-trick today
now that’s a lovely thought pat
song is in there to bring some strength and height, denilson is in there to bring some composure and ball retention. Palacios doesn’t have the ball retention of denilson, nor the passing ability in general. It’s all irrelevant anyways, palacios is gone, and it’s irrelevant to us imo!
yeah i agree stu, and i think that’s what is going to happen, denilsong holding, and either nasri and arshavin on the flanks with ade and vp up top, or those two holding with vp up top by himself, nasri, diaby, or arshavin playing behind him with the other two playing out wide, with bendtner and vela playing occasionally.
a 4 man midfield of eboue denilson song diaby would be a joke, but i doubt it’ll happen, and if those 4 did play i’d expect it to be 4-5-1/4-3-3 not 4-4-2 like that
Bastards Oldham!
All my accumulators are coming off and yet those fuckers are losing 4-0 at half time.
sunderland deservedly leading at half time, despite the usual diving all over the play by villa’s front 3
palacious is shyt,he plays in a team with 10 defenders including bruno upfront, he is over rated and just avaialable,no reason to get hyper
I expect Villa to come back and fluke it.
Abonghalor is so overrated and mediocre.
Bergkamp, it’s just an accumulation of losing Diarra, and now Palacios, it’s pissing me off.
i agree bergs, palacios is average, as we’ll see at spurs, and good riddance to diarra, complete bellend i wouldn’t want anywhere near the club!
I would sell Diaby, Song and Denilson just for Diarra.
He wanted to play and played like he was itching for action and glory, whereas Denilson, Song and Diaby played like they’ve been on spliff at Colney.
I would rather his attitude than theirs!
Diarra was thick as shit, if he had any intelligence he would have realised he was going to be first choice by the end of the season. There’s a reason chelsea were willing to sell to us, and we let him go so soon, his attitude is attrocious and he’s just a complete dick, which means chelsea, and we didn’t want anything to do with him after realising that.
I’d rather have song at the club than diarra
apart from buying nasri which took an enternity and was subject to the sale of hleb, i can’t remember a possible transfer being so public and drwan out, even if the media noises are mainly coming from the russians.
i said before we should put the money down,preferably 2 weeks ago, then give them 48 hours to take it or leave it. if the deal doesn’t come off, wenger wont look good despite his cageyness and if we sign him the expectationd will be sky high as if we had bought a world superstar.
all this is not the usual way we used to handle things,and that is one area where we miss dein.
A, I’m not sure.
Apparently Diarra said Flamini told him he was staying and he also didn’t know Gilberto would leave at the end of the season.
He had wasted enough time at Chelsea and saw a similar situation developing at Arsenal. Can’t blame the lad.
also i still think we are physically a very small side, and arshavin is only 5″7.then add,theo,cesc,nasri,wilshere even diaby who is easily dispossed and denilson.too many for my liking compared to the invinsibles.
We miss Dein, like I miss the clap!
Nah, seriously, I think we happen to be dealing withn a club more than happy to do business infront of the media. It serves their purposes (well, they thought it would start an auction)
We had Nasri in the bag, so it being public made no difference. Likewise with Arsehavin…probably.=, hopefully!
yes Villa is losing.. lets hope it stays that way
I think Zenit will take Gazidis hostage and ask for ransom money. Ross Kemp will be drafted in as mediator.
Guys, there’s a massive article comin up on goonertalk after the game. I think Gooner Chris says he’s been in contact with Dennis Lachter. Surely it can’t be true?! Look in the match preview’s comments where he says it.
Paulinho,
nice one
Time for Tevez to score soon? Wouldnt be suprised…
Haha! Ross effin Kemp!
Wankers!!!!!
Villa level, cunts.
Do Villa score any goals that aint effin jammy! It was handball FFS!
hit his arm apparantley.
villa have equalized with yet another fluky goal
hand of god,where was the fourth official in the linesmans ear today
lol chelsea are losing
lol come on stoke..
Spurs to go bottom??
Chelsea to drop out of top 4?
Now that would inspire incontinence on a grand scale
did the kid score for west brom?
chelsea are in trouble…….
I’m stoked Stoke are winning.
we need Sunderland to hang in there!
…VILLA ARE SO FUCKING LUCKY
chelsea are definantly in some trouble,im just sick of refs and these villa pricks
IF Villa win the cat wont know whats hit it!
i think villa will definantly run out of luck and steam this season,its ust about us taking advantage when they do
With this luck Villa will finish in the top 2 the way things are going.
how didnt we slap middlesborough,villa deserve no credit when you look at the charity weve been guilty of giving out
I’m gonna call it. Villa to get an outrageously generous penalty in teh last 5 mins…
Not beating a poor Boro side was shite! Piss poor performance they had ONE good chance and scored it, yadda yadda… See what you’ve done now? Made me remember that again!!!
spurs are currently bottom,
blow the whistle.
we just have to win today,make sure ade earns his grand a minute today.
maybe chelsea will drop out of the top four and spurs go down. fucking great,but i can dream
ashley young red carded
Haha .A Young sent off…
Asshey Young red carded!!!
Straight red. 3 games out.Finaly something goes against them
We sign Arshavin, Essien, Hangeland and Owen… Win the league and Champions League… Chavs go bust and cease to exist… spuds get relegated…. Is that too much to ask??? ;D
haha yes!!!! ashley young off and now gone for 3 games!!! IDIOT
spuds will be bottom too!!
I cant take it!!! Its all going too effin well!!!
Spuds bottom… United being held… Chavs losing at HOME to Stoker… Young sent off and banned for 3 (even tho the twats in my FF team!)… Nurse!
Spurs ar the strongest team in the premiership. They’re holding everyone else up!! Boom boom!
finally after screaming in refs faces and diving all season his english passport and up an coming international status cant help him,theo should act like young
Villa got a pen???
villa have a penalty
WHAT DID I FUCKING TELL YOU. VILLA PEN, GIVEN FROM OUTSIDE THE BOX. SHOCK FUCKIN HORROR
Fuck sake it was outside the box.
Outside then fucking box!!!!!
Cunts!
omg penalty wankers
the FA made a call to the fourth official very angry because the ref went against villa ,penalty outside the box
It’s fucking fixed, all of this is fucking fixed, how much of a cunt can Dean be, two fucking dodgy decisions..
Paul McShane almost decapitates Gabby Agbonlahor as the ball bounces on the edge of the area. The foul looks just outside but ref Mike Dean points to the spot and Gareth Barry converts ….ffs!!
What a fucking joke..
Conspiracy theory #2345;
The refs got together with Sky and the Premier league, they discussed the fact the product (EPL y’all) was getting stale and needed freshening up, therefore they decided that their needed a new team in the top 4, after quickly discounting spuds for that role, Villa were deemed the new darlings and would be given every help in achieving the top4 finish…
fucking hell how lucky are those villa bastards…….ffs
this league is so fixed,after the run of bad decisions we got at the end of last season,and the run of bad decisions helping villa this season it confirms to me what iv known for years,the fa want a diffeerent top four to stop all the moaning
As long as we win today and the other results stay the same, we can cope with Villa winning another game. We can get Chelsea muddy as well and have a big mud party and pull at each other ankles and slow everyone down!
Angry,
and where does that leave us.
Watch Match of the Day, it’ll all be about Villa battling back with 10 fucking men, they’ll gloss over the decisions and big up the twat of all twats O’Neill, he’s got them cheating all over the place.
keyser,its always the linesmans decisions that are helping villa though,just like the non penalty the otherday when someone else was talkin in his ear
United will fucking get a jammy goal next….
Kelsey;
Top 2 fella!
We’re not chasing Villa. We’re chasing Chelsea and Liverpool and we’ll catch them.
Villa will shit themselves come Feb/MArch crunch time and we’ll reel them in anyway
United always bloody score in these situations. Always.
Having Villa to chase will give the team focus and before we know it… we’ll be right up united’s nArse!!!
Angry i dont think your theory is as daft as it seems. However if we hadnt thrown so many points away this season all the help in the world wouldnt have mattered.
Magitlarge; Yep!
berbatov
United cunts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
there’s your Man U goal…
I don’t care anymore, Agbonlahor is one of the biggest diving cheats in the premiership it’s a fucking joke.
Charlie Nicholas is a wanka. Why the hell was he so happy?
ffs loner that was your fault
Think he just wanted to wind up big nose Thompson.
Because Phil Thompson is sitting next to him, hah, I thought the same, Phil Thompsons reaction was funny..
Sorry everyone!
He’s probably had a little gamble Paul…
chelsea
Knew it was too good to last… fucking hell, wheres that cat?
I thought Bolton had scored by his reaction…
Chelsea just scored now
Cos-bloody-mic.
Could the last 20mins of the 3pms go any worse.
oh fuck off chelsea as well, thankyou god
this day started so well!! now its ending awfully for the arsenal, wouldnt surprise me if were screwed against hull later
So in a space of 5 mins, Manure have just won, Chelski just equalised and Villa just fucking scored a fuckign penalty was outside the box. BOLLOCKS
Chelsea will get the winner now..
A good day has turned into as you were!
Oh what a surprise, no Sunderland pen.
SUnderland penalty not awarded… Shall we all pack up and ome home…
Sshh Gambon, have the games finished yet ? There’s still time for more misery..
should hear collymore biggin up villa
sounds if hes doggin again what a wanker
fuckin united
No Chav comenack, late late Sunderland winner too….
I meant Stoke
fucking united. fucking villa. fucking chelsea.
I’m getting sick of Martin O’Neill and his self-effacing bullshine after every match….. We’ll get more if it now.
you wait for the eulogising about villa tonight on MOTD. I’ll throw up in advance
well we had better perform today, after that shitty sequence of events.
Havent watched MotD for ages!
Chav scumbags!!!!
FUCK…………………………
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME
Lampard, ridiculuos.
we have to beat hull tonight, or definately not lose at least or even without young for 3 games villa are going to stay above us.
OH MY FUCKING FUCKING SHIT FUCKING GOD
LUCKY CHAVS 2-1
colly has just come in his pants
The ONLY positive from today so far is Lumpards in my fantasy football team!
No good to anyone else obviously!
I hope our players are not aware of this turn of events… they’ll be demoralised going out there now.
Okay, calm down
Its a must win game today pressure is on come you gunners!
this is bullshit, every thing went Belly up at the last min.
He’s in mine as well Angry, but then he’s in ninety per cent of sides, so no, it’s no consolation fella!
Same Arsenal team as Bolton
Im top of the league at work!
And theres a load of cash on it!
guys ive just been watching the all your comments since kick offs today. i went for a shower at 4.35 and villa were 1-1 with ten men, man utd was 0-0, chelsea was 1-0 down. I switched on the tv after my shower at 4.50 and Villa got a pen they shouldnt of had, man utd has scored, and chelsea had scored twice.
WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what about stoke
poor sods
Bitrch of a day so far. Theres gotta be a red and white lining to it!
a draw is no good now,lets see that fucking belief and passion tonight lads.this game could be the most vital in our season so far,no one is even mentioning us on the t.v. as if it was a 4 horse race already.
THAT WAS THE MOST UNLUCKIEST 15 MINUTES OF MY LIFE!!!!!
VILLA GOT A GOAL THROUGH HANDBALL, AND A PEN THAT SHOUDLNT OF BEEN A PEN????
I HOPE THE ARSENAL PLAYERS ONLY SAW THE RESULTS AND DIDNT SEE THE SCORES WITH 15 MINUTES TO GO.
I think Arsenal’s only chance of winning today was if all the results went our way and we managed to channel that joy all that into the ninety mins.
Now it’s as you were, and back to reality. In reality we’re shite so I think Hull will win.
so villa rode their luck again
I didn’t see that game, just got up to watch stoke 0-1 up only to go down 2-1.
Ive never been so depressed going into a game. We have to win just to stay in touch and we’re running out of games to get back to 4th place.
HOW CAN VILLA HAVE SO MUCH LUCK!?
THE FA SHOULD LOOK AT THOSE TWO ILLEGAL GOALS THEN SACK THE REF AND REPLY THE GAME!
GAMBON I HEAR YOU. THE ONLY THING THAT CUD MAKE THIS DAY ANY BETTER IS IF WE DO A 4 OR 5-0 AGAINST HULL
Fuck Villa! We’ll be top 2, 3 at the very worstest, dont worry!
Gambon, if your depressed now, lock up the razor blades. You’ll be looking for them in a couple of hours!
spuds are rock bottom
Merida on the bench I heard. Something mildly interesting then.
We really need to win!
Bit of calm needed.
we just need to get a win, any fucking how, and hang in there.
We’ll be lifted by Arshavin next week and poss another signing after then.
Then lifted by Theo and Eduardo comin back in Feb and then Cesc in March/April.
So we need to hang on in there, pick up points all the tim and take advantage when Villa’s luck does run out
ANGRY
one silver lining spuds are still bottom and ffs dont type or say anything to the game finishes LOL
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/tables?league=eng.1&cc=3436
Paulinho;
Desist withn the gallows humour fekka! I can handle it, not sure about others tho!!!
i aint saying zilch about our game today, except….
If we dont win today we are not in the champs league next year. Dont want to be overley dramatic but the chances of us outscoring Villa by 6 pts are very remote.
just woke up, fuck the chavs – cunts
and fuck villa for that matter also
morning evo
but spuds are last
and fuck man scum also
that is gold my friend and long may it remain
its just not cricket when when the scum score on 90 minutes to win 1-0 and then the other bastards equalise on 88 mins and then score the winner on 94 mins. where do the script writers come up with this bollocks?
wenger has just been interviewed and said we MUST win every game this season from now.
somebody convince me PLEASE
kelsey
we will win today 0-2
Our bench is pathetic. The oldest outfield player is 20 and they have about 30 prem starts between 6.
gnarleygeorge,
fine
no predictions from anyone during the game,as it just went tits up in all the others.
just a good performance and 3 points however ugly. amen
thank fuck song is on the bench and not starting
so the team is:
Almunia
Sagna
Toure
Djourou
Clichy
Denilson
Eboue
Diaby
Nasri
Adebayor
Van Persie
Hmmm, let see. 60 mins of unproductive, frustrating, crab football and then he’ll take off a woeful Diaby for Vela and push Nasri infield. It’ll get slightly better but not until we take of Eboue for Bents or Ramsey and it’ll be a tense last 10 mins and could go either way.
Its gonna be a squeaky bum game…
provided we win today and if stoke had of hung on we could have been 1 point behind those blue bastards. oh well cant fucking change that now can we
Oh, and if we’re winning, be prepared for Song to come on for a striker, just to really invite them onto us in the last few minutes.
Oh the joy
Manucho will come on to score the winner
Its gonna be squeaky bum time for the rest of the season.
You realise Wengers taken his experiment too far when Nikki B is the most experienced player on the bench.
come on you rip roaring gunners
hold year breaths
Kolo’s got a best mate
fuck we are going in strong, whats up with that?
At least we know what to expect from the lino!
nearly five mins. have we found a pass yet?
I want to see Phil Brown crying at full time.
we’ll win tonight, almunia has a fresh hair colour in
ugh that was inept from us on the break, allowed the shot but saved by manuel. we look jittery so far
27, what a twat!
Duck!
that was breathtaking skill from eboue, when he gets it right he can be awesome
no joke
oooooooooooooooooooooh
‘breathtaking’ is a huge exaggeration.
With the rb gone past you, the idiot trys a flick and loses it!
Denilson is so slooooowwwwwwwwww……………..
Denilson and Eboue will sabotage this match for us.
Eboue loses the ball again…shock.
we are slowly gaining control of the game, hopefully it won’t be another 1-0
let’s hit the target lads
it always breaks down with him…
fucking soft fouls against us
ditto
Another missed tackle from Denilson.
refs a prick
Ade crosses to no-one. Come on Meelan, make that bid.
link any1?
nice one ade
you muppet
i think Ade’s played quite positively, driving forward when e can
FUCKING HELL
Fuck sake.
oooooooooooooo
How did JD not knock that in
if one of our lot don’t have a pop soon, i’m going to go mental
good driving play from eboue
we look shite
Metal, just watching on Setanta. Try justin.tv or livefooty.doctorserve
Link any1 please
GET THE FUCK IN
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
ADDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEE!
YESS, ADE!!!!
Dropped him from my fantasy team cos he was bound to start scoring once I did.
So you’re all welcome
Qualty header!
Cheers gabon
Nasri’s wasted out wide. Great header by Ade
nice one togo twat!
Now lets wrpa one up early for once. 3-0 by 60 minutes please.
Oh wait, 3 goal lead isnt enough for us to be sure.
Diaby’s doing nothing.
played 27
me too Maqitlarge !!
Good management Raddy!
get that wanker 27 off the pitch
Eboue deserves a lot of credit for the way he has picked himself up after Eboogate, he is really impressing today
In there ade
I don’t care if it wins us corners or free kicks, I can’t stand to watch Eboue’s cheating and play acting
I also dropped Turner from Hull Raddy, so evens that one out I guess
We havent kept a clean sheet on our travels since october. Utd have 10 cs in a row.
Shows the gulf in class.
Seb, no he isnt. He has given the ball away a number of times.
hmmmm
Lol, really impressing.
Eboue’s shit
QED Gambon
eboue no
some people are blind, eboue is our most direct player, quite possibly our paciest player certainly of the front 6, there is a lot more to his game than taking a tumble
you wouldn’t be fucking moaning if van persie fell under a soft challenge
eboue has played some great football…. okay that was bad timing, but shooting has never been a strong point for the lad
Eboue so so shit what is Wenger keeping him on the pitch?
Cousin is a loon, remember him for Rangers last year!
what the fuck is up with Al kicking. Is it windy out there?
let’s face it, none of you want eboue to succeed because he is a ‘cheat’ in your eyes
but the fact is he is one of the only players we have who is willing to take opponents on and regularly beats them for skill and pace
Seb watch Eboue carfully when defending
Sorry Seb but I think that’s rubbish. Eboue is a decent right back no more. He isn’t good enough for midgfield. He never wins headers. He wanders out of position. His passing is poor. He thinks he possesses ball skills but just blunders forward at pace hoping to get lucky. He can’t shoot – need I go on…… What I am watching from him in this game is not good enough.
lol..i thought u were ironic Seb
cos Eboue is useless
Seb what else does Eboue bring 2 the team.
My God theres some negative comments on here
Seb, he doesnt take people on, he doesnt score, he doesnt assist, and worst of all he constantly gives the ball away.
What does he actually do??? its got nothing to do with him being a cheat, he has less ability than Gunnersaurus.
what would Pires have done with that chance Seb?
Eboue has the qualities you mentioned yes, but not in enough abundance and not consistently enough. Just watch how often moves break down with him.
And he’s already nailed his colours to the mast with his constant and cheating etc. Arsenal players shouldn’t have to be told not to do that shit.
Seb I’m waiting for your reply.
i thought eboue hasnt been too bad for us so far, hes run quite directly at their defenders
Seb, I think we are failing to see what he offers above LJW other than experience and maybe a bit of strength!
Eboue will score today
eboue has done ten times more than denilson or diaby in this game, but because of his rare disease which increases the pull of gravity on him, he is always the target of blog hate. I just can’t believe people aren’t prepared to give the man credit when it’s due – the problem is you lot are just waiting for the fuckups to prove your point. he’s no more guilty of mistakes than anyone else in the team.
That said, he has been better than Diaby!
Its a sad endictment of how low our expectations have fallen that we should be pleased when Eboue is playing ‘not too badly’. We should be tearing Hull apart
Fastest play in our front 6.
Do me a fucking favour. Vertically maybe… but not across the ground, no way
*player
With you on that Seb good point well made
we could have been winning by 3 by now..crossbar and eboue chance.
Bobby Pires couldn’t tackle for shit
comparing Eboue to Pires is fucking ridiculous
noone would say that Eboue is the dream winger for Arsenal, but when he plays he works harder than anyone else on the pitch, he covers Sagna, he tackles, he presses, and he DOES take people on regularly gambon and he has done it about five times this game already, which proves the point that you aren’t watching him for any other reason than to slate him
and no amount of all your baseless prejudiced remarks are going to persuade me otherwise. yes he dives, so what, big fucking news, get over it, as if football is some kind of refuge of the moral, that went out the window in the thirties lads, some people are better at disguising it that’s all
try actually noticing what players do throughout the game rather than pounce on errors – or if not, at least slag off the rest of the team when they fuck up – which is equally as much. show some fucking consistency.
Exactly could the same could be said of your opinion of Eboue Seb – as long as he doesn’t give the ball away too often or wander too far out of position – he’s having an OK game. He is a diving cheat. I could forgive DB and Pires because they had sublime talent Eboue doesn’t. But you’re right, he’s not the worst player on the pitch in this game, Diaby may as well not be there.
Seb, he has given the ball away stupidly 3 times. He has dived once. He missed a fairly easy chance 8 yards out that every attacking mid we have had for 10 years would have scored.
He would have had to been incredible for 45 mins to make up for that.
And the positives?
Eboue has always had ability and we’ve seen that again today, but there is rarely any end product, or even a high pass completion. There’s only so many times he can go on a good run and fuck up the pass….. we’ve seen it non-stop for the past three years. He never adds that final pass or shot to his game and until he does, he will have it all to prove.
No one is saying he isn’t a good player, just that he isn’t good enough for a top four side.
Maqit
Diaby Denilson Nasri Van Persie Adebayor
Eboue would shit on all of them for pace mate, if you think otherwise you are deluded. Ade is the only one who would get near him. Forgotten his amazing lung-bursting overlaps playing behind Hleb in 2006? yeah thought so
we needed the 2-0 definately…i can see the ref screwing us over
I am not baseless or prejudiced – where did you get that from? and I have no desire to try to change your opinion. I’m not going to get over his diving so you’d better get used to that! OK mate, drop the aggression and remember this is a forum for intelligent debate not name calling. I am happy to agree to differ.
I’m with Seb. The Eboue’s pushing forward and working hard. It’s Vela for Diaby and Nasri back inside.
I think Diaby has been okay, made a few good challenges.
We are being too casual though in going for the second goal. No doubt we will pay for that in the second half.
Pace alone is useless – otherwise Quincy would still be playing for us.
Seb, you say everyone is waiting for Eboue to fuck up so were prejudiced against him. Well its clear you have a soft spot for him. You are implying taking 1 player on the giving the ball away is good play????….well it isnt.
Hard working??? dont make me laugh. He works as hard as any other RM in the league/world, no more.
Seb the fact is you’ve come out with a comment that you cant back up it’s that simple I’m not waiting 4 his fuck up’s I don’t like Eboue and he should’nt be in the team at RM it’s that simple Denilson is not a DM don’t know why Wenger keeps fukin persisting with that idea this guy is lightweight and mentally fragile can’t position himself, cover defenders and ball watches all day long it’s not even funny anymore and Diaby is inconsistent and a player I really really don’t like.
Hope we play the same in the second half as the last 20 mins.
3 points is vital
We’re winning one nil,and all some of you can do is effin slate Eboue???
Bejayzuss!
Oh and I didnt see Villa tearing Hull apart. Theyre a decent team and have proved it this season. Fuck sake! They scored 3 times at OT, did well against the chavs.
But no, carry on with this oh soooo negative shite. perhaps Hull can beat us just so you can really go to town!
lol about the pace argument. Im probably as quick as Eboue, but i aint no prem footballer.
Ade is also far quicker than him.
The positives are we’re one nil up – get in.
By working hard I only meant The Eboue wasn’t invisible like Diaby who I bugs the shit of me.
I end up having this same fucking debate every couple of months on here, it will never make any difference, but such is the nature of prejudice. at least there are some people in here who actually evaluate players based on their entire contribution to the team, kudos to you, you know who you are.
Clearly some gooners would be happier with a team of Denilsons and Diabys, players who don’t put in a lot of effort but who don’t do anything much wrong either. Well guess what you’re in luck, apathy is in fashion at AFC, I guess that’s partially why Eboue isn’t.
‘no mate eboue isn’t in fashion because he’s a cheating diving cunt, we don’t want that sort of player at arsenal, blah blah blah’ – give me a fucking break, move on, change the record.
anyway we’re 1-0 up if anyone had forgotten that, sorry for this minor deviation from the match in hand
Angry
We used to be better than a decent team – and by the way Eboue should have put us 2 up. One nil at half time is not a comfortable position going on past performance this season. We need our players to be better than ‘doing ok’ Don’t tell me I’d be happy if we lost – that’s insulting, you have no idea how much I want us to win
its getting light outside – 05:30am
So Metal, you do a fine job of telling us who you don’t like.
I do not agree in any way about Denilson -it is easy to say that statistics lie, but the fact is that Denilson has been a big player for us this season, and continues to be. On what do you base your assesment of ‘mental fragility’ ?
Diaby is still at the very start of his career. Give the guy some slack. Until AW plays him in his natural position he will continue to struggle. And a flair player like him needs games and a build up of confidence.
Eboue – not my favourite. But with Cesc and Theo out, we have to play him. Hopefully, he will be replaced sooner rather than later.
Your arguments are based on personal bias
and anyone who took my comments personally, as if they were aimed at you specifically:
- if they aren’t labelled with your name, then they aren’t aimed at you personally.
and relax.
oh and forgive me for defending one of our own!
Seb stop assuming what others are thinking you don’t know the thinking behind some1’s dislike 4 Eboue 4 example I don’t really pay attention 2 Eboue’s pettiness if U must know I just get fed up of watching him.
Well said Angry.
Raddy – did you see my comment about watching Arsenal TV on Livestation for free?
Seb, no way mate.
Eboue only beats people for pace when he has the ball and pushes pass players and thats because he’s the one witht he starting gun.
I’ve never seen him catch an opponent with the ball, or chase back and beat the oppo from a head start. But whatever…
Look, Eboue has some ability and I’m not about slating Arsenal players but more often than not he hinders our play, he loses posession. He frustrates the hell out of me. I say that as a fan whose never, EVER boo’d one of our own.
And you’re right, comparing Pires to him is fucking rediculous, which is why I didn’t do it. I was illustrating that we used to have players like Pires (couldn’t tackle for shit, except on Vieira) who scored and assisted more goals than alot of strikers in the league.
To now have Eboue on our wing, well, we;ve come along way… and not in the right direction…. IMHO
Anyone, onwards and upwards, come on Arsenal
You make me sick Seb – what the hell makes you think people are prejudiced – that’s a mindless response from someone with a weak argument. Just produce one piece of evidence that anyone is being prejudiced. Were we prejudiced against TH or Sol – what brand of prejudice made some fans dislike Cygan I wonder… You have to grow up and accept that some correspondents don’t share your opinion of Eboue.
Rasputin;
The bit about caning Hull was for you, the rest of iit was aimed at ALL the oh so bleedin negativos on here fella!
got to kill this game off…..2-0 to the good guys.
Big Raddy very amusing Denilson has been big 4 us U mean like Flamini last season big right.
i prefer to be going to the left of screen
no chozzer. Can you repeat the details?
Thanks.
Off to watch the 2nd half. TTFN.
OK Angry – I’m not looking for an argument, I just get pissed at people who get abusive and play the prejudice card when they don’t agree with others.
You make me sick Seb – what the hell makes you think people are prejudiced …
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Oh the irony!
LOL rasputin did you interpret my use of the word ‘prejudice’ as RACIAL prejudice?
Rasp;
No worries fella! We’re all Gooners innit!
There is no irony there?
We’re cool aren’t we Seb? We’re just disagreeing about Eboue. Its all good debate.
Come on the Arsenal
Seb when U mean prejudice I hope u aren’t suggesting I’m being racist becuz that would be outrageous please reserve the race card.
meantime there’s a game on…. rvp you dirty shirt grabbing cunt, we don’t need his sort at arsenal
ironic mode off
But he’s fukced me off too many times already this half already
Ade get in the centre you’re not a fukin winger.
the pass master
dammit Eboue
once more
Sarcasm – very intelligent……
How badly do we need a winger….this is terrible.
We’re passing it okay but no one has got the balls to make an incisive pass or shot.
Maqit I’m cool with everyone, i get a little heated when players are criticised beyond what they deserve in my opinion, especially when they are one of ours, and when they are not having a bad game, again IMO
and opinion is the name of the game on here let’s face it, if i was a sensitive soul i would have given up on le grove a long time a go, as many do
and again…
Lol the Eboue argument should now be over.
Take Eboue off.
Guys,
Ebuoe is not bad. He is a player that has a mental problem and I wonder if he can cure it in Arsenal.
I will watch manucho seriously he has a good shot. What is Wenger’s game plan? We seem too predictable at the momemt.
Bring in Jack for Ebue or Vela for Ebue.
We need to turn this dominance into goals,ideal game for Vela
rasputin mate I don’t want to bang on about this, but I was interested in your comment addressed to me, where you said I made you sick referring to prejudice, and contrasted TH and Sol with Cygan – two black players and one white.
Are you under the impression I was accusing people on here of being racially prejudiced? I would like to know.
nice one Seb. We’ve just all gotta bear in mind that deserved levels of criticism is a variable to each indivdual on here. You’re entitles to like Eboue, I’m entitled to think we deserve better. And we;re all entitled to celebrate winning this game…
DJ!!!
Bit lucky there.
i think he got the ball…a lil bit
Jock cunt! Not allowed to try and head the ball now!
DJ lol what the fuck was he doing?
We’re all cheaters accordign to Hull… and every other fucking team.
Lets copy every cunt that called us cheats because we used to go to every ground in the league and win!
Winds me up that chant
Pretty sure he didnt but i like wileys thinking! (or eyesight)
OK Seb – so what kind of prejudice were you referring to? A prejudice has to be aimed at some defining feature of an individual?
Djouru knocked that guy the shit out tho…
Please be man enough to answer the question mate.
Wenger not happy with Pass-master
I know I’m harping on but has anyone got Eboues pass success ratio?
van persie is such a dirty cunt of a player – but we love him dont we
eboues been terrible…no confidence he needs to go off
FUCKING CLICHY BACKING OFF. WHY?
I amnot on a witchhunt, but ee has done nothing this half!
fuck sakes…i hate cousin
Wenger make the change and stop prancing in your tech area. Do something +ve. Something youare paid to do. Hull has come back into the game
Great great great now bring on Vela
fuck fuck fuck…………………
Awful defending by GC again!
Same old bullshit.
What the fuck was Clichy doing there?
FFS – hate to bang on but who gave the ball away 20 secs before the goal??? yep, no 27.
well i can say it now that we’re fucked.
fuckin hell man, why can’t we just be fuckin solid for once man
Hang on Seb – I asked you about 10 minutes ago to give one piece of evidence to substantiate your allegation that people were prejudiced against Eboue and YOU were not man enough to answer. Kindly define this prejudice you claim to …..fuck this …1 all. I couldn’t give a shit about Eboue……
fuck almunia fuck cousin fuck no signings fuck no subs FUCK
fucking eboue, that was his fault
This co-commentator is a cunt bet he is a ex manc
I hope we do not loose this game. Wenger is really pissing me off
once again we have all the game, but never kill it off
He’s actually laughing at the replay
2 centre backs nowhere near him either
Clichy is the thickest player to play for Arsenal…. alongside Eboue.
yep messed up a simple pass again
I have to say Paulinho, I used to think you were going OTT re Clichy, but the evidence is there for all to see unfortunately
eboue is shit
Absolutely shocking from Wenger thats been coming
It is time for Nic and Vela again.
Clichy is a shadow of the player he was last season. just basic defending.
Hooray, Eboue going off….about time.
i dont really see how that was clichys fault it came off him….dont listen to this scottish prat
Arise SIr Emmanuel. Pass completed (if we’re gonna get sarcastically clever)
Make subs now Arsene pleeeeaaassseee
Bendtner to the rescue…..ofcoarse.
What a pathetic pathetic team lets just get this goal and win the game.
Bendtner on the right WTF!!!!
Yo all know whats coming don’t you.
An origami lesson by AFC
This cant be happening!
3 words to describe this performance up until the 68th min
PISS FUCKING POOR
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Why HASNT NASRI been in the CENTER????? HES AN ABSOLUTE FUCKING WASTE ON THE LEFT….painfully slow…but FANTASTIC in the center
The ONLY highlight has been Ade’s performance so far…hes looking good
Y isnt Vela playing…
Its looking like were going to lose this one people…i hate to say it…
Wenger is pissing me off with his persistence in his substitutions methods. its always wait wait wait wait and see if they players on the pitch will come good. too late son, its now 1-1 and the seasons slipping away mate.
Bendtner hadnt even warmed up, he was sitting with a tracksuit on the bench and then it gets to 1-1 and you decide to sub then.
that is the cunts!
i was shouting at the tv close him down, i knew we wouldnt hold out
Bring on Vela
Clichy is having a Song day…
Clichy is fantastic…those goals happen…..if our team could string more than 2 or 3 passes together we would have had more goals and this abberation wouldnt be so important
Its that simple…
Poor team selection, poor placement….now people are callign Clichy a shell of his former self?
No, no no…
We need a wide player for this match, not Bendner. We need someone to run at defense and cross the ball. Clikchy has not been marking his man well
Evo Wenger is pissing me off with his team selection also
David – he’s “songing in the rain”
sorry
So many of our players are inept in the final third.
Wenger’s team selections are retarded this season, I hope this doesn’t continue next season
This team is shite….Top 4 team????? What a joke.
Vela for Diaby pls
“Now he will resume duty on the left hand side”…referring to Nasri
ARSENE, are you blind….what the FUCK is he thinking?
Do not blame Ebuoe so much, blame the manager that plays him for so long when he should have removed him
wenger shouldnt be angry…he selects this teams and plays these players
Come on Boy Wonder
Bring on Vela FFS
Not until 85 Metal. It won’t work otherwise
wenger has always been a joker with his subs, we need to win this game why isnt vela on and nasri moved into the centre , ARSENE YOU ARROGANT PRAT WE NEED 3 POINTS …….
Chris, he obviously believes in these players (he must see something in training i dont know) and a lot of these players DO have the potential to beat anyone, but they are just being pussies, and Wenger is at a loss as to why they are playing like this.
Wenger does take the biscuit with his wack selections this season
MAQITLARGE I’m assuming that’s sarcasm
Wenger looks like he has given up
o well…at least hull are officially number 1 in my ‘crap towns’ book
I dont think arsene is interested in winning this game…why Vela isnt playing is difficult to understand.
of course Metal.
Diaby you clumsy cunt!!!
Pass the fucking Balll you Piece of shit…
I would say it again, this game needs a good use of the wing. Bring nasri to centre, bring Vela out wide. Arsene, please rescue our game.
David,
I understand our shared frustration.
finally…ashbeee gets booked, ugly mug with a beard
we don’t deserve to win this
Got to feel sorry for our fans
You beauty!
Get in!
NASRI BABY
(apologies to everyone else for banging on about this here, if I had rasputins email then i would talk in private, but i dont)
Rasputin, I believe you were asking for evidence to back up my supposed claim that people on here are RACIALLY prejudiced against Eboue.
I didn’t provide that evidence because you refused to confirm whether that was indeed your reading of the often used English word ‘prejudice’, which intrinsically has no connection with race whatsoever, and yet you appear to have assumed that connection.
I would NEVER DREAM of assuming that anyone on here was racially prejudiced in any way. Whether people are or not is their own business. To be frank, I didn’t appreciate your inference that I would stoop to that level just because I wasn’t ‘winning an argument’, your reference to my ‘mindless response’, and your exhortation to ‘grow up’. Another poster was quick to see the irony in your accusation of ‘prejudice’.
My reference to prejudice was regarding people’s opinion of Eboue as a footballer, and that a lot of people have already made their minds up about him regardless of how he performs. That is prejudice – they label him as a diving cheat, even when he is playing good football. I hope that clears things up for you.
I don’t resort to the ‘(racial) prejudice card’, and nor do I accuse others of resorting to it when they have done nothing of the sort.
Sorry to have taken a long time to get this across to you, if you had explained what you meant earlier then it would have been easier to make you understand.
Samirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Yessssssssssssssssssssssssss
Nasti U beauty
Thank You Jesus.
Did you hear Kolo?
“Fucking YEAH!*
Thanks to our best player at the moment, RVP
Did i see SSong coming on
I hope song is not warming up?
Wenger bring on Silvestre 4 Van Persie
lets get 2 more goals now, sock it to these bastards, send a message to show we mean fucking BUSINESS. lets go now
Song?!?!?!
If we hang on to this I’ll be majorly surprised……
Song to the Rescue…Just like Bendtner
Here he comes…
Hull’s oficial invitation to put loads of pressure on us!
jippi song is on
oh my god. not song. please
fucking yes!!!!!!
Super sub!
O YES!
bendy puts it in
YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Seb, your understanding of the meaning of the word prejudice is incorrect and that has led to what it appears is a vacuous argument. For the last time (its getting very boring) you claimed people were prejudiced against Eboue – what is it about Eboue that you think people are prejudiced against?
Any way, we are 2:1 up and I’d drop it if I were you – make that 3:1……
Song, on you come mate…. DOn’t care now!
GET IN THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!
THAT IS BRILLIANT FROM BENDTNER
Come on Gunners….1 more for our Sanity.
Welll Nasri can play cebtrally now, with Diaby out wide
Still time for a Song hat trick
Great tackle Song…
POST.
That would have been flattering
great move and effort
Omg….Nicki Big balls…hit the post
Effin hilarious readin the posts on here!
We are shite… top 4 team??? Rubbish… clichys shite… eboues shite… yadda yadda…
rasputin…. please don’t try to assume the higher ground. For one thing I explained in that comment what it is people are prejudiced against. And for another thing:
from dictionary.com
prejudice
noun, verb, -diced, -dic⋅ing.
–noun
1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.
2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.
etc etc
There doesn’t NEED to be a specific reason for prejudice – it can simply be because people don’t like someone. And at least one poster today has admitted that they aren’t so bothered about the playacting, they are just sick of the sight of him. That is the essence of prejudice, PRE – JUDGEMENT, making a decision about someone or something regardless of or prior to the facts. People have already decided on the basis of past events that they don’t like Eboue, so it doesn’t matter what he does at any point in a game, they still won’t like him. I hope you understand it now.
Well now this has become officially boring and tedious, but you did try to take me on on a matter of language, so there it is. Done and dusted. 3-1, come on you gunners!
Thas because we played shite for 80 minutes.
Seb;
While you’ve got the dictionary out, can you look up the word irony please? Think I used it incorrectly earlier. Thanks!
Arshavin would have given us some much needed width today , but hey, we won and we’re still in the chase…….
Big 3 pts, although it shows how poor a season that we think that!
Ade, RvP, and Nasri best players by far.
rvp.. 3 assists… awesome!
Job done. Well done lads.
Clichy is still a liability of liabiletic proportions but alas, that can wait for another day….
Song was fucking immense, what a fucking player, good times, tough on the old ticker, but good times..
Had to come on & say what a joke Eboue is, whilst Clichy may get the blame for Hull’s goal it was Eboue who gave the ball away 4 times in a row to invite the pressure. All credit to Bentdner, he was class when he came on!
Good win though & do I see the Yids at the bottom of the table, thats a crying shame!
fucking that mendy is a good player isn’t he?
David;
yeah, whatever mate. I dont even bother posting what Im thinkin at times like that! Effin and blindin at the telly is quickly forgotten, typing posts habg a round a lot longer and look effin funny! Well, to me anyways!
anyway everyone I’m off, sorry for the boring shit. but it passed the time and lessened the anxiety of the 90 minutes
and a quality result! still in the leading pack… who knows eh
Rasp; Yeah man, thats the way to go fella! Can you imagine a quality player in Eboue’s position on the right?
Cool!
Well done.
Diaby and eboue were shit.
Others look ok.
BTW; I meant Arshavin as that there quality player!
Clichy’s cross at the end for Bendtner was fucking awesome aswell, all he needs is space to run into, great fucking player.
Denilson had a good game, 2nd/ 3rd game alongside Diaby they did pretty dayum well..
Bendtner is fucking awesome and Song what a player..
Choy Mendy is a fuckin star
Im hoping Walcott can be like him…soon enough….i think its fair to say he won the battle against Clichy pretty much the whole game.
yeah with arshavin in there we will rule..could do with arshavin and a CDM..anyone notice how awesome djourou was at the end, cleared everything in the air
Once again…Flamini is on the Bench for Milan…he doenst even play league games…
good character today… we were wobbling but we found a way to win the game away from home against a team that had beaten us already this season… should stand us in good stead that win
Arswaxin in, eboue out
You can’t keep fucking up like eboue did all game & not expect to pay the ultimate price. it was his turnover that cost the goal. As much as he might be a “narce boy” he aint up to it.
But liked the 2 assists, well 3 actually if you count the corner , for RVP.
As it turns out The Arsenal has turned up the heat on martin o’neill’s lucky boys. We have gained on goal difference, so if they lose & we win we will leap frog them.
I really dont wanna get into another argument, but Eboue is a squad player and should really be getting 10 games max a season. Due to injuries and the manager not adding to the squad enough and/or playing others instead (Vela, Wilshire, Ramswey, etc) he’s getting way too much game time. He’d be OK if his games were few and far between IMO.
Seb, good night and thanks for the discussion. I am not prejudiced against Eboue. In my opinion he had a poor game today and seldom produces performances of a higher quality. If you and dictionary.com think I’m prejudiced, that’s fine – I just think he’s not good enough for the Arsenal
All Mendy did all game was put in a deflected cross because Clcihy gave him the room/ was waiting for Nasri to run back and cover.
I’d prefer Walcott right now over him, minus th shoulder injury.
thas why it doesnt make sense to get Upson…I think we need a speedy CB and Uspon is slow and i doubt JD pace as well…
Get in there. I’m going to have a beer for Samir.
Raddy – I’ve been watching Arse TV on my PC for a While now for nothing.
It’s a user stream on a thing called Livestation.
Put livestation arsenal tv into Google and you’ll get the link. You need to download some software and send them an email address.
As it’s a user stream you have to add it to your list of channels. Sometimes it takes a few goes to connect , but it’s always worked for me eventually.
I watched Fan’s Forum and Sunu’s hat-trick last night (1 was shite, 1 was great) The quality is usually better than the internet streams for 1st team games.
Hope this helps.
Ok now forget sending Bendtner out on loan, i think he is making loud noises for a starting place, i think he should get a chance to start in place of Adebayor this should motivate Adebayor to perform better to win his place back, lol the yids every season they spend 50 mil+ to take us over in the prem
i worry for clichy,he is prone to fuck ups big time,always punished as well, he needs to wake up
van persie was awesome today, set up everything and brilliant free-kick
RvP!!! Love him (not in a funny way!)
hey gunners do you like van persie’s 3 assists, dont you???
Anyone have stats on how many times RVP has hit the woodwork this season
Come on Eboue played OK!
He shouldve scored yes….but if that was Ade he wouldve played it straight to the keeper.
angry
are u turning into lovy loner
What did people think of the Djourou/ Manucho incident ?!
I can’t believe Craig “shitkicker” Burley thought it wa a penalty.
Eboue was improved but still not to a high enough level. Diaby the same but he is making more progress that our 27.
Massive moment for Nasri. That was the moment of the match and he took it. Sign of a quality player.
David if I had as many beers as eboue turned over the ball today, I’d be pissed as.
I am a boo boy…and i will keep booing the likes of Bendtner and Song…Bendtner seems to respond to it positively though….good performances these last 2 games….as far as a start???
I dont think so. He’s a great super-sub tho.
yeah, i believe RVP has hit the bar/post 5 times this season!!!
i think if we replace eboue and diaby.. we’re almost there!
People slating Eboue ? fuck that he had a good game, was one of the few actually running at people, played well.
3 games scoring streak for lime green boots!!!
David. I think Bents is vain so will repond to it. Song is just a dope I reckon.
He gave a way too many free kicks in the short time he was on which could have resulted in a goal then then god knows what. He did win some key headers ont he edge of the box though.
gnarley;
Haha! Im all loved up mate!
no one was briliant today,they just done the job their paid to do and still managed to make it hard for themselfs
Kelsey;
It was just a coming together I thought.
Craig burley is a twat! The fella’s got issues!
If turning the ball over is what makes eboue shit then half the team is shite….Bendtner…Ade…Denilson…Song…Diaby….Clichy…
anyway, so 8 games undefeated. Still hovering around aston martin waiting to destroy their dream, & spuds are absolutely, stone motherless last
all in all not too bad a day i’d say
Go Go Gunners
Eddie back soon Maybe for Cardiff?
David,
Eboue was ok………… for him, however at his best he’s only VERY average & shouldn’t be good enough to be in our squad! Lets hope Arshavin comes in & even at half pace (whilst settling) will be more of a attacking threat!
We needed 3 points, we got em
Fan-fookin-tasticoooooooo!!!
david, mate, eboue on the ball, 5% of the time something good comes of it. Arswaxin, Theo, Rosicky make him 4th choice. He is not up to it.
Spurs at dead buttom last. Yes they can!
Where did eboue have a good game? Yes he ran at people but he lost the ball in so many situations where we were attacking in numbers. The commentators said he had a poor game and although Nikki on the right is not ideal at least he made us look like we were The Arsenal
I am all for Arshavin taking Eboue’s place…i think all gooners are praying for it….but he’s all we got now….and he did a good job running at people…and trying to create chances…one of the few people to actually make a run.
nasri is turning into a fine player… what a goal
They were all awesome today in fits and starts, all the goals were class today, some of the play was up there with last season we just have to piece it together now..
Good Times..
Eboue is not good enough to play for Arsenal
Keyser – are you having a glass half full moment
Running and trying to create is always better than….Stand and Pass….
Eboue was great..!! Excellant player.. Good Times,.
Hey Keyser, I have seen Arsenal players come off the worse on similar challenges this year and Burley has said that we are just not up for it
The bloke is a fucking prick who could not be more anti-Arsenal if he tried in his commentary when we are on Setanta. I would complain to Setanta but they are all fucking pricks as well.
Happy with the result today, we had to win and whilst it still is not anywhere near vintage, the result it what is important. Hopefully Arshavin will be here in time for Everton.
Not going to go into the who, hows and ifs and butts, but well Done Arsenal and well done in particular RVP.
David,
Next time you go to the Emirates just watch Eboue OFF the ball, the guy isn’t smart enough to be a attacking player in our set up, he’s just a headless chicken!
Eboue possibily had a less than 10% pass completion today. Totally unacceptable for a Arsenal attacking player.
Totally beyond my comprehension why Vela is not deployed instead.
Beejayzuss!!!
Give it a bleedin rest with the slating!!!
Ebooooways a squad player, end of!
Now move on already!
peaches – We won our 3rd game on the trot, even though we fucked up at one point and came back from it to win.
I’m just happy, aren’t you ? Though my heart might not hold up for the rest of the season.
After Hull equalised we played as if we were terrified of losing this game.
We got the three points that we needed, we scored 3 great goals but inbetween it wasn’t vintage football. It was scary stuff.
Winning ugly – I love it
Pat;
Steve Mcmamamanananananananananaman is their best pundit.
But WTF was Clichy doing, I could understand his backing off if someone was overlapping wide, but he fucked up for the goal there….And I Love Clichy but he fucked up.
I think we lacked Creativity again. Nasri should have started more centrally
I game like that tells me we are only missing two players. The DM and the RM.
Get them and the Season might not be so stressful and drive me to Alcohol.
anyone listening to this prick on setanta,who is he comparing referees decisions to?? man utd & villa?? is that what he wants
Fine win against difficult opponents.
We had some dodgy moments, but were well in control for 80 minutes. Nik’s introduction changed the game. Well played mate. From Zero to Hero in 3 games !
Some of the comments on here today were so negative, I had to stop posting. It is bad enough listening to a pillock like Burley without having Le Grover’s moaning.
It was never a Hull Penalty, had that been from a corner nothing would have been said. JD was looking for the ball, and the coming together was accidental
Keyser – of course I’m happy. MOTD will show the goals and I’ll hope that we play better next time and that the team will have more confidence.
patthegooner – Did you watch the Villa game ? It seemed almost fixed, Wiley today was shouting at Clichy, when all he was trying to do was talk to him, even the refs seem like they want to have a go.
I think they love winding us up or something, Setanta are a bit cack all round, I hope someone else takes up the contract.
Exactly, happy with the win, also glad that we handled lapses we’ve fell apart from before and were calm and came back, it can only give them confidence.
peaches my friend,howdy,im down with the ugly wins but match of the day will just say were playing rubbish and villa are winning ugly instead of refs winning games for them
Big Raddy;
Right on fella!
I stopped too mate.
TJ,
That’s a very good point. I have done just what you suggest and concentrated on Eboue during a game. He is hopleless when we are not in possession. He has no tactical or positional awareness. He does run at defenders and sometimes it pays off, but more often than not we lose possession because he doesnt have the skill or footballing brain to execute that kind of play. I’m ecstatic we won today and we’re only a couple of players away from having a team that can play Wengerball and score goals……
The result has made my weekend to be honest…..I feared that we may come a cropper today and we did enough to win the game.
As for Villa, Man Ure and Chavski….You Fucking Lucky Cunts.
Especially Villa. Seriously guys we cant count on them running out of Luck, it is here to stay and we need to deal with it. if anyone I could see it being Chavski that drop out of the top 4.
We still need reinforcing though.
almost fixed?? id say fixed keyser,especially after the ways refs done us last season how can they get so many decisions wrong in a teams favour
That Burley was coming out with some right old bollocks!
On nasri he reckons the young lads flattered to deceive, then backs it up by saying “yes Id say that was a fair assessment” Soo the fuckwits agreeing with his own comments! Brilliant!
burley isnt qualified to talk on tv,he is a nobody,his memory in football wouldnt get him reconised in the street,thats says it all
hi bergie – we scored three good arsenal goals though and thats worth a watch don’t you think. We also conceeded our customary arsenal goal although at least not from outside the box !!!!!!!
I saw bits of it Keyser and yes it did seem fixed and if this was Serie A then there would probably be an investigation into them
They are becoming my most hated team at the moment. They are average but I bet you they get CL football next year and go out in the prelims.
peaches – didn’t mean to be rude, just feel like rejoicing..
Raddy – arse tv details in 7.34 comment. Cheers.
I read Aston Villa won controversially. Anyone want to explain??
pattheGooner – forget bungs and brown envelopes with a few 50′s thrown in, with a 100 million transfer in the off and the money in the premiership, I wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t going on here, remember the far east betters turning of lights or something at grounds ?!
The next scandal is supposed to happen in La Liga, it’s supposed to be quit big aswell..
villa won’t be in the champions league. Unless the chavs come 5th
i know peaches but dont you get the feeling that everybody wants us to fail more than any other team including all the tv pundits?? the premier league wants villa in the top 4 so they can say the big 4 is a myth,plus it will keep people tuned
Hi rasp – Best part about today seeing spuds at the bottom
I really want villa in the cup home or away.
“It was a very difficult ten minutes after the goal,” van Persie told Setanta Sports. “After that we stuck together and played some good football. Luckily we got the two goals.
“With the first game in our mind it was a very tough game.”
Van Persie insisted the late victories of the other teams in the top five did not increase the pressure on them.
“I didn’t see the results of the other games,” Van Persie said. “It doesn’t really matter it’s just about us.”
The former Feyenoord man saw a superb 25-yard free kick tipped onto the bar from Boaz Myhill and he admitted he is ruing his luck in this regard.
“I’m a bit unlucky with free kicks this season, they always hit the post or the bar,” Van Persie added. “The goalkeeper got a little touch that’s why it hit the bar.”
bergie – i agree with you, I would say that the pundits have prejudices against us but that might lead to a punch-up
Hey does anyone have link for the Barcelona game?
pat they scored with a hand of god,and won a penalty outside the box,they dived and they screamed in the refs face,ashley young got a red card but should have got one in the first half
18 Stoke…….. 22 -16 21
19 West Brom 22 -17 21
20 Tottenham 21 -6 20
and Ashley Young out for 3 games.
Henry has scored I am happy for him..unto the La Liga title…..
Yeah if anybody has a link for the game please post it.
lol i remember we played on setanta against fulham and bullard brought eboue down from the back and burley said its only eboue he is annoying and asks for it lol
Absolutely Peaches. The Eboue debate got a bit heavy during the match which is poor form, but as Seb said, it’s one way of dealing with the anguish during a game! There are loads of positives, wwere’re still in the title race and I’m optimistic we’ll get Arshavin. The spuds being bottom again is hilarious!
How many games will that cunt young be banned for?
Barca
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=28626&part=sports
Anyone else heard the rumour spreading today that Arsenal are in for Palacios for 14 million??
I can’t say I’ve seen him enough to know if he’d be a good signing, but at least he’s a lump.
barca are 3 up
Didn’t we have Palacios on trial a while ago?
Wenger had Palacios on loan and recommended him to Bruce at Brum.
Anyone hear the players celebrating in the corner, I think it was Toure shouting “fucking yes, fucking yes”.. Good Times..
sorry on trial
Thanks gm, he is a big bastard isn’t he – obviously wenger didn’t fancy him (in a footballing sense!)
I am not a violent person, but for some reason I have an urge to kick the shit out of Burley. He really is a cock of the highest order.
GMR I fucking hope not, he is average. I would rather Song started upfront next week
Thanks bergkamp
Barca looks unbeatable. 3-0. Deportivo havn’t had a shot yet.
We are missing Fab, Edu, TR and Theo, but I reckon only Fab and Theo would walk into the team straight away and then EE will drop down to the bench.
I know he is a squad player, but his performance today was simply not good enough and 2nd half he was really awful, at least in the 1st he ran at them I suppose.
There is prejudice against him, but mainly due to his being not up to the standard required, and that he does not appear to give his all and his gamesmanship and lying around making more of injuries than others. But Denilson and Nic have some here who are just as anti about.
I thought the spuds were buying him anyway
thanks
keyser – your glass is almost filled to the brim
They fucking better be
Palacios is worth nowhere near 14m. I would be gutted if Wenger spunked that much on him after not going the extra mile for Alonso.
It would be the end for Wenger for me. Please No.
Its the poor tabloid football hacks I feel sorry for.
I mean, there they were writing our obituary after Hulls equaliser, no doubt reporting on our imminent descent into mid table meiocrity and then Arsenal go and fuck things up by scoring 2 more goals!!! We are bastards!
I wonder how much of a fuss they’ll make of the pathetic penalty decision against JD?
Villa are cunts, I fucking hate them
Peaches – I just switched glasses to a smaller one.. heh
lmao patthegooner,you need that mascot suit then you can attack burley,he is a mascot of all cunts
I just heard the rumour on a radio station earlier this evening, apparently Steve Bruce confirmed another club are in for him but wouldn’t name them. He did however confirm it wasn’t Man Utd.
Wenger did have him on trial & supposedly said how good he was but at that time we had numerous players that would’ve been ahead of him.
14 million seems very high though!!
Maybe we should acquire Amanda Knox in the transfer window, play her in the free role. I’m sure she would distract the opposition!
I cant watch Barcelona
It what I hoped we would be in the years after the Invincibles. They are fucking awesome and I know we are all Arsenal fans, but if you ever have the chance, go and watch them live at the Nou Camp. I went out last year and did the tour and we paid extra for Hospitality which is the same price as the Emirates Higher Tier and had a great time. Henry scored that night and I thought Wenger you fucked that one up.
If we bought Palacios I would laugh my fool head off. A would be devastated
Angry Loner – it will be interesting to see how MOTD treat us tnite. Hope they say you can never write off a team as good as THIS arsenal just to wind us up
Im fuckin concerned about Aston Villa. I think about us winning the UEFA cup & its fuck all. I rather just be in the champions league than winning the UEFA cup. These fuckin guys from Villa need to get some injuries. Once that happens they fucked.
And Seb, if you are still watching
If Wenger was the one that paid 14m for that average joe, after passing him off after a trial then I would be truly pissed.
I dont mind us paying money for someone like Yaya later in their career but Palacios….Please no, That would ruin my month
That mascot thing yesterday had me in stitches.
This made me laugh
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTDurDrZF4
i wonder if any barca fans enjoy watching arsenal
Doesnt work anybody have another Barca link?
Some new news regarding Arshavin. Its only 1 quote, but this blogger gets it right more often than not.
http://goonertalk.com/2009/01/17/exclusive-arshavin-agent-answers-gooner-talk/
Dont start me on the Mascots again Bergkamp
I have my eye on an Elmo Costume at the moment for my new invention of Fight Club.
MASCOT FIGHT CLUB.
Now That would be worth the Licence fee.
milner scored with his hand.. at least young is out for 2 PL games..
Villa are the luckiest team this year. Will it ever stop??
United defense is pretty damn solid though. Very impressed by them. And its been a makeshift defense for half the season!!
Ok boys, you’re on your own, I’m off out to dinner.
Have a nice evening all, play nicely xxxx
They did Bergkamp, I had some good chats with the locals whilst we were out there, and I dont know if they say it to everyone, but pretty much every Barca Fan I spoke too had Arsenal as their fav PL Team.
vidic is a monster.. wish we had someone like him..
dj’s getting there.. did you guys see manucho’s eye afterwards? he was almost blind!! heheh
lol pat,ima get me a mascot suit as well and join,mascot royal rumble,for the right to be afc mascot ,i still this this is the baddest mascot yet http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0zo93CRhm0k
Arsenal ratings today:
Almunia 6
Sagna 7
Toure 6
Djourou 6
Clichy 5
Nasri 7
Denilson 5
Diaby 6
RVP 7
Adebayor 7
pat i think its the fact that when were ontop we look like carca and vice versa,and when things aint going well we look like barca when things aint going well for them
Forgot Eboue.
Eboue 5
that was a towering header
Pat;
I went to ther Nou Camp last Sept, watched em play Santander, completely out played em, had tons of shots only for Racing to equalise with their only effort from a set piece.
So, a home away from home!!!
haha sure was bergkamp
paulinho.. i would give rvp 9 and nasri 8 and nicklas gets 8 as well
Thats the trouble some of our players are written off too quickly. Djourou has only just made one of the centre back positions his own but everyone still wants another defender signed. Vidic was shite when he arrived but Ferguson persisted with him for a season or so, playing him week in, week out & look how good he is now.
I’d prefer to keep Djourou & Toure together for a long spell of time (depending on injuries obviously), & lets see what happens for the rest of the season & possible into the next one.
Evra was another player who came here & was crap for a long time before Heinze injury gave him his chance & then he never looked back.
With regards Song, its pretty hard to defend him but I would say go back to the pre season when he arrived (2005 I think), he played everything one touch & was superb, now for some reason his whole game has changed. Is that his fault or has Wenger stopped him moving the ball as fast as he was doing?
GMR.. hows you.. we’re just a couple of players away.. and we just need to be consistent.
You just know that arsenal are going to concede. I think wenger has just told him not to move about too much and just sit and protect the back 4.
iF kaka…comes to city….city are going to be deadly…
Angry, How good is it though, What a stadium
Apart from watching Arsenal who I love with a passion and have done since birth, I also love football and have been lucky that my job has taken me around the world and I have watched the likes of Marseille, Napoli, Barca, Bayern, Hadjuk Split, etc the list goes on, I just love football.
The most impressive though has to be in Universitario in Lima, Peru. Fucking hell, I went there just for the crack expecting something on the lines of Leyton Orient. What a shock. It was half empty as it was only a minor game but I would love to go back when it is full. Take a look. I have never seen so many corporate boxes. I did not pay but the tickets were about £5
http://wikimapia.org/13393/Estadio-Monumental-de-Universitario-de-Deportes-Monumental-%E2%80%9CU%E2%80%9D
Hello Choy,
I agree it does look likely we’ll concede each game at present but our defence has hardly been settled this season & in fairness they have little protection in front of them.
I really think Djourou will be a world class centre back in time but he does need to play weekly. If another defender is signed you can gurantee that it’ll be Djourou that is dropped for them because Wenger certainly won’t drop any of his more experienced defenders.
Wow! Top stadium PatTG!
I think that is part of the problem GMR, we have not had a settled back four all season.
I really hope Djourou and Toure are given the rest of the season now. Forget Gallas, he will be off in the Summer, but those two could last us as a partnership for 5-6 seasons.
I have been campaigning for Djourou all season. I really think he will be world class. Still makes a couple of mistakes here or there, but usually recovers from them. He is quality.
I have never really liked Song, He showed glimpses once the pressure was off last season at CB but I just dont think he has what it takes at this level. I really think it is in everyones best interests and especially his own if he drops a division and finds his real level.
Angry, honestly it was one of the biggest shocks of my life. Lima is a shit hole and suddenly this thing appears on the horizon. They have another monster stadium there as well but I cant remember the name of it.
I want to go back down there for an International game.
Agree about Djourou. Ive been hoping he’d finally get a good run and he is now. Sure he aint the finished article yet, but I think he’ll be great for us. Not sure where Upson would fit into the equation and agree with an earlier post that a proper proven DM would be a better bet.
Oh and they have terracing as well and no problems.
God knows why we cant have it in the uk
You can stand and dance around like a cunt at a Grunge Concert but not at football, What is all that about.
I am quite sad after listening to some comments
We go 1-0 up, and all is well
We go 1-1 Clichy is suddenly the worse player on the park
The game lasts 90 minutes, andafter that 90 minutes we won 3-1
Yes, we all want a couple of good signings, but Lady Luck still is not shining upon us, how many times will Robin hit the post/bar, Nik hit the post…..
Yes Eboue was not brilliant, but sometimes he wasnt that bad either… Yes I would have preferred Merida….
But we won and won well in the end – I am happy right now, if Arsene doesnt follow through now what he is spouting about then ‘maybe’ that will differ…..
GMR – Just read your last, you are spot on imho
Sounds cool Pattg. I have no idea why we cant stand at games either. Sitting has a lot to answer for!
Rico – you’re lover boy Nikki nearly stole the show again?! LOL
Bizarre stadium Pattg.
Drifted into this clip of it.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=647Yy5sODD0&feature=related
oh and I danced around like a c*nt when Sami scored.
Pat- I’m with you on Djourou & Toure. Gallas was a great defender but he is getting on whilst Toure is coming into his prime & is the perfect long term partner for Djourou.
We all know Djourou will still make mistakes from time to time, but he will at least learn from them. I could never understand why he wasn’t given the chances previous to this. He has always had more potential than Senderos, unfortunately it looks like he’ll be back with us come the end of the season.
It is crazy, It is not an opera, I think you should be given the choice to either sit or stand at football. Some people like to sit but I find myself up and down like a yoyo for 90 mins, why not stand in the first place.
The Emirates could probably take 80,000 if they did it at both ends and the tickets could be cheaper. I know quite a few people that have been priced out of football. Once tax and other shit is taken out the price of a day out to football is getting pretty close to at least a 1/4 of what people earn a week and that is not acceptable.
I was thinking about it and I would imagine that that 100m put aside for that Kaka transfer would pay for a season ticket for every single seat in the Man Shitty Stadium.
Nasri is the ducks nuts, that strike was glorious! not many blokes can strike them equally on the left and right that well! fuck i love him!
nasri >>> hleb
great news arsenal won but clichy yet again makes another blunder and its notr the first time,i feel clichy is clearly much better going forward than defending he i sgood as a defender but he is prone to make mistakes wereas sanga is a much better defender than him and is very good going foward, but arsenal got the win and its just gamae by game now must win every single game now
It is one of the best stadiums I have been in Chozzer and if anyone has ever been to Lima they will know why. When you look at the city you just dont expect it. And it looks big from the outside but you dont even realise that the pitch is sunken and when you first go out it takes your breath away. Atmosphere is awesome, and the fans are pretty passionate, I wore my old school Charlie George Shirt and they loved it.
Nick can be a deadly striker. He was very direct today and looked good.
If the above is true(upson-bendtner switch), what attacking options will we have in the CL?? Arshavin won’t be able to play. That leaves us with Ade, RVP, and Vela.
Unless Eduardo will be fit by then
Ratings:
Almunia: 6
Sagna: 7
Toure: 7
Djourou: 6
Clichy: 6
Eboue: 4
Denilson: 6
Diaby: 6
Nasri: 7
Adebayor: 7
Van Persie: 8
I like Senderos as well though GMR. The worst thing we did last season was drop him once Toure came back from ANC. He was solid as a rock
If he could sort out his issues with self confidence, I really think that Senderos would be really top quality.
But I think it is too late for him at Arsenal now, he needs to play every week and he wont get that back at Arsenal. Since Wenger gave Kolo the temporary captaincy he has shown signs that he is getting back to his best and as it stands Djourou has to play alongside him. I will be devasted if Gallas automatically gets his place back once fit.
But he will never have the pace to be a top EPL defender.
Leon, Clichy is making some bizarre decisions in games lately, but he is a class LB and I am not sure there are many if any better than him in the Premiership. Hopefully he will iron them out soon.
Again because of the age of our players, you forget that Clichy is only 23 which is really young for a defender. I dont think you see the best in Defenders until they are 28/29
Evo – I thought he did really well today, really made an impact, he was so unlucky not to get two… I am pleased, I have wanted only for him to do well, but havent been able to see it happening – but if he keeps making such an impact, then maybe even i will begin to like him….
Pat I get what you are saying
I think Bendtner has had a Ego check recently as he was getting way too big for his boots, but he has impressed me in the last couple of games. He has been put in an alien position and scored on both occaisions
But, I heard that the Bendtner side of the upson deal (Which I think is bollocks) could work for us if Bendtners move is only a loan. Ok we might miss his Solskjaer like goals this year, I think a run in the first team would benefit us in the long run. I thought Upson was supposed to have a medical today. I guess if he plays tomorrow then it was complete bullshit
Nasri who is again only 21 is growing in legendary status.
He is sadly what we were missing last season. I think with his goals could eclipse Pires in Gooners eyes.
that was a quick visit – catch you soon all
Guys I just watched AC Milan v Fiorintina. AC won 1-0. Game over evry player went to hug KAKA. As though its his last game for them. Im tellin you guys he is goin to Man C. The deal is done.
Lewyd, any sign of Matty or Phil?
would have been awesome for Bendtner to slot that header! He nearly had 3 goals
Zorr0 I caught the lat 10min. Senderos and Flamini wre playin. They both gave him a hug. Every team mate hugged him. What does that say???
Lewyd, the deal is done. I read Kaka doesn’t really want to go, but Milan are urging him to. What club wouldn’t? The money being offered is ridiculous.
Kaka is not greedy like many other footballers these days. I’m just sad to see him go too City. He’s too good for them
Man City are jinxed! They will contrive to fuck up big style. Its common knowledge in manchester!
I think it is done as well
And what will they get
A Kaka who is playing at 100% effort but about 0% love,
He is a great player, but I feel for him, as he is being put in a horrible position where the money on the table makes it impossible to turn down. It is almost like the indecent proposal film.
It means Turmoil at Arsenal next week though, just watch that bid come in for Adebayor
nicklas bendtner is the new freddie ljunberg
Pat I wouldnt have believed it if I didnt see what I saw tonite. I agree wit u. he desreves so much more than Manc
Choy wat makes you say that?
If AC Milan gets 100million, they will definitely target Ade with huge offer. I can see Aresene going for jugglery with some one like Kalu.
Man City are going to be more hated than Chelsea,
And not just through Jealousy about them having money, but more through how they are spending it
I think every football fan in world would love Kaka in their team, but when you see someone just offer such a ludicrous amount of money for him that is impossible to turn down then it makes me sick to the stomach that they have ruined this poor guys life.
He does not want to play for Man City but what can he do
I hope he gets out of there on a free transfer.
And we will have to take the money for Ade. I know he has not been great this year, but we have not put many chances his way either
But we will never be offered the amount of money for Ade as we will be this week again.
We have to take it.
Arsene can do so much with it, but he has to be given all of it and he has to spend it.
Footbal has just gone to another level. Fuck Man C. I hope it takes them 100 yrs to win something.
I feel that when teams like Chavski, Blackburn (That year) and now Man Shitty win the league or anything for that matter, they should do a Top Gear initial when the Celebs drive in the rain and get a W for Wet next to their name. but in this case they should get a BH (Bought History)
I know every team will speculate to accumalate but those three mentioned have taken it to an unacceptable and unsportmanlike level.
That is not jealousy it is just how I feel.
I dont even hold that thought against Man Ure, as they built their status to a level where they can do what they do in the transfer market.
I’d rather have City relegated than Spuds
Hey guys I think Wenger should rethink his flat 4-4-2. He should play 4-1-3-2….or some would say Diamond 4-4-2
I mean look at these options if we get Arshavin.
……………….Al………………………..
Sagna……Djourou…..Kolo……..Clichy
…………Denilson/New DM/Song………..
..Bent/Ebou…..Nasri/Diaby…………Arshavin
…………RVP……………Ade……………..
Then imagine Vela slotting in for Arshavin off the bench. Theo for Bendter
Eddy for any of the front 2.
Bendter seems to play better from deep.. when he came on ..he was running at everybody, that is how you break down defenses by running at ppl causing them to make mistakes/commit…not by passing sideways everytime someone is in front of you. And look at the last game agsint Bolton he made run from deep to connect with RVP’s cross. He seems much better as a sub coming from deep. He cant play lone striker.
The boss needs to get Nasri into the middle because apart from the goal, he is wasted out left because 90% of the time he gets it he either cuts in or turns back. He is not comfortable taking ppl on on the left and beating them.
I think with that team above we can secure fourth place and possibly win the FA Cup. Not sure about the CL, I would aim for that next season if we qualify. The team would have got a chance to gel by then.
He could also try 4-2-3-1….but 4-1-3-2 may be less drastic for Wenger.
Lewyd24 he’s coming into his own into that new wing role of his!!!
Me too Lewyd
and the one thing they cant buy is team spirit and morale and love for the organistation they work for,
They will all know that they are paid slaves and would do a lot better by sticking with the Irelands and SWP’s than they would by bringing in the Robinhos and Kaka’s. That is no disrespect to those two but we all know that they were put in an impossible situtation
The money on offer was only comparable to holding their loved ones at gunpoint
oh fuck not kalou
Choy I dunno bout that. He has come on as a sub in the las t 2 or 3 games and scored . Good on him for scoring but when he starts he is not the same player & we have seen that this season
Take the money for Ade and spend it on Benzema or Villa.
Anyway goodnite Gents. Its 12am in South Africa at the moment and Im gona get some sleep. Well done to the gunnerz today.
It is an obscene amount of money and we are talkin about football here! Where average playersd are multi millionaires!
Yet City being prepared to just bludgeon other teams with ridiculous amounts of cash have lowered the morality even further! Shit! When a Europoean powerhouse like Milan is forced to accept that offer coz it is just too effin huge then we are on the brink people! Hold on tight now, this is gonna be bumpy!
“I’ve got Brian Horton in my coaching staff who has coached a lot of games and he says it is not a penalty, it is assault,” Brown told Setanta Sports.
“The last time I spoke to Keith Hackett (the referee’s chief) he said Wiley would not be refereeing Hull City for long time.
“He refereed us at Anfield and dropped a clanger that day that cost us two points.
“For some reason Rob Styles was not the referee today. I want to know why Wiley was promoted from fourth official to take control of the game?”
Brown only hopes that Wiley’s oversight will be balanced out by officiating decisions in his side’s favour later in the season.
“I am not questioning any referee’s ability,” Brown added. “It was a key decision and at 1-1 the game was going for us.
“Arsene Wenger was getting more animated, which was testimony to the fact we were getting into them.
“I don’t want to stand here and criticise referees. I just want fairness.
“We can’t compete financially, but we aren’t getting the rub of green at the moment.
“We just hope fairness will prevail. We are finding life tough at moment. But it is not down to us, it is down to someone else.”
reasons to be cheerful 1-2-3 (Ian Drury)
On Robin van Persie’s contribution…
“He was outstanding.”
I’d be really uneasy if I were a citeh fan. People are already beginning to speculate on what would hapen if Abramovic pulled out of the chavs. He would either have to sell it at a huge loss or just stop pumping money in – in which case the club would be bankrupt. The same could happen with citeh in the future. It’s not good for business or football.
Robin Van Persie… what a player.. fuck.. when he is on fire.. he’s beautiful to watch
Okay, i was apprehensive today and our all round performance was the best i had expected considering the fit players we have at our disposal.This win might turn out to be realy significant this season for the points gained.
I hoe nic stays for this season as a bench warmer to bring on,as i stated this morning.the defence and almunia still have this uneasy alliance,which needs to be worked on.i know who the weak players are,but not for discussion tonight.rvp is our class act,but he needs to watch his aggression doesn’t spill over,my man of the match.
RVP loves playing for us, I think. he gives a lot of effort and usually says the right things.
Captain? It’d be ironic, considering his reputation when he came.
Pat.. what an outstanding performance.. He was that damn good today!
This season, RVP passes more often to players in a better position.
I always loved RvPs attitude and the way he speaks about Arsenal, seems like he loves the clubv. Him, Cesc, Clichy, Kolo are our captains!
I just wonder if we’ll be last up yet again on MotD??? And how Gary, mark and the Alans will try and make fuck all of our win, while praising the jammy diving cheatin Villans to the skies? Linekers just bitter coz the spuds are goin down!!!
Pat; Hadnt even seen your post fella! Ha!
lets see what villa are without young
And that is just it angry
They know these players dont really want to play for them, and that is why they have to offer such a ridiculous amount of money to get them
They will get more benefit out of Ireland than they will Kaka.
I actually blame Hughes. He is a player and manager I admired for his passion but he has rolled over like a puppy dog to please his owners. Owners that once Christmas is over will get rid of him
He is being made to look a fool. He should have said no that is bollocks and if you are going to do that, I will be no part of if. I cant believe he is on the super wages. they will fuck him off in the summer anyway. Kaka is a Mourinho Player not a Hughes Player.
Anyone know if RvP has signed an extension yet and correct me if i am wrong but his current contract runs until 20011
* 2011
IF City get Kaka, then that actually might see them happy to sell/loan Ireland.
PatTG;
The owners are just going thru a whose who of world footballers picking out players they want. Hughes will make out he’s involved, but i doubt it! Where this’ll leave their home grown players? Gawd knows!
The offers on the table, gathering dust, apparently. I think he’ll sign it tho and Theo too!
I would love Ireland at Arsenal
He would be our Freddie Ljungberg again
Could be a Legend at the right Club,
Man City have no History and no Fan Base.
These Super Rich suger daddies need to realise that they will only be really succesful if they buy either Man Ure, Liverpool or Arsenal.
You cant buy a fan base as Chavski have found out.
I feel sad for Kaka. he doesn’t want to be playing at some 2 bit mid table club in England. Kaka should be playing for one of the big clubs of this world and there are only about 6 of those clubs around and City are not one of them. He wont even be playing in the CL ffs. what a shame for him that he is being told where to play all because of money. its all wrong. City should have the decency to build a team slowly and when they reach the CL, then they should bid for players like Kaka and Robinho. At least the Chavs were top 4 when RA bought them. Citeh will be hated. but most football fans dont give a shit. it shows how narrow minded English people are. they just want anything anyhow to break into the top 4 and fuck the consequences. its fucking sick.
gazzap.. i just think the owner is trying to have fun.. he did promise them a super player this transfer window..
Arsene must be having nightmares.. his transfer strategy is just about to get fucked!!
NOTICE HOW THIS TEAM IS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER! wengers evolution is at work again!!
The fact that City fans and the Premier league welcomed Shinawatra with open arms was sick too. All City fans were arsed about was having some twat with a fat wallet to buy players so they could lord over United (and the rest) the fact he’s presponsible for death squads killing 100s of his countrymen is irrelevant.
Fit and proper person test??? F8ck off!
Adolf Hitler, Charles manson and Attila the Hun are forming a consortium to but the spuds apparantly.
The new City owners are just playing at owning a football club, its a huge ego boosting dick extension. Where most wealthy men would buy a ferrari, these uber rich sheiks buy a football club and try and hoover up all the best players.
Sick aint the word fella. I hope they fail miserably. Given Citys penchant for fucking up, they probably will.
i have never heard shit like i just heard out of shearer’s mouth talking about the villa penalty
‘it was outside the box, but the foul continued into the box, so the ref got it right’
what a load of tripe, i don’t know why i’m surprised really but it’s just unbelievable
Hmmmmm….. 4 games in and what a surprise? No Arsenal yet! Brilliant!
Alan “Interesting” Shearer bigged up Villa, then said with a straight face the ref got all their dodgy decisons right! Even suggesting the penalty was right as the fould continued into the box! Does this fucker even know the rules? Or am i mistaken? Thought it was where the foul started?
Oh well, who cares? Villa are a side issue for us as we’re top2 babt!
Guys we dont play another top side..until we play Liverpool in April.
This is the perfect time to hit some form. If we can get Arshavin in to help us break down stubborn defenses then we can close the gap.
We are now 6 points behind United even tho they have a game in hand, but if we can keep the lead down to between 3-6 points ..then when April and May comes around we will have our destiny in our own hands.
We need to stay unbeaten(with not too many draws) up til that point. If we do then surely we will be in striking distance, then if we can beat the other contenders once again then title again will be very close.
I am sure Liverpool will not complete the season with only one loss, so they are due to drop more points. Chelsea is struggling a bit…and surely Manure will drop some at some point because they now have 9 clean sheets in a row, surely this will be broken soon.
So if we can stay within 3-6 points come April/May we will have our fate in our own hands.
Get Arshavin and DM and we will be in business.
Seb;
Glad someone else saw that shite!
MOTD are all Cunts
Just pleased they lost the FA Cup
The sooner those Sponging fuckers lose the Licence fee the better.
It is criminal that I have to pay those fuckers wages to talk total fucking crap every saturday night. If it was up to me I would scrap the BBC, they are fucking cunts
although My little girls love Cbeebies, is that owned by the BBC?, as if they did not get to see Peppa Pig and Night Garden my life would be even more hell.
Just imagine where we would be if we had held to 1-1 to Hull the first time.
Imagine if we had beaten Aston Villa the second time.
Imagine if we had not made that defsnive laps and had beaten Liverpool.
That alone is 1+2+2……5 points more we would be 46 points now.
I did not mention the first Aston Villa loss, the Man city loss now the Fulham loss. Even with these losses and the Stoke loss we could on 46 points and well within range.
Ja Gunner;
Loving that mate!!
PatTG;
I gotta disagree fella. Although theres loads of stwats on BBC, Im glad we have it. It sticks 2 fingers up to c*nts like Murdoch and his slimy ilk. having 2 channels that aint full of advertising breaks etc is a fucking blessing that we will only realise if/when its gone.
Ja;
We shudve beat Boro too!
Nasri’s already repaid most of his transfer fee for me! Top top player, soooo glad we got him instead of keeping Hleb the Barca bench warmer!
see the look on Song’s face when we scored the first, he couldn’t have cared less
and well done robin for goal of the month!
And that Villa game was a disgrace.
That guy Milner should be shot just like Maradona….both examples of blatant cheating.
This is why I will never respect Maradona, Pele isthe greatest…Maradona was a master dribbler but was not an overall master of the game like Pele.
For Aston Villa’s second goal……..
Even tho the foul was outside the box, I feel that was a bit rash by the defender his foot went way too high.
I would go with that Angry
But having TV without adverts is only actually any good if there is something worth watching on it.
I have just thought that if it was not for my girls watching Cbeebies then my household would not have wathced anything on BBC for months
I hate the fact you have to pay for Sky or Virgin Media to watch anything remotely decent, but I fear we have no choice,
What fucked me off more was when the powers that be decreed that Sky had the monopoly on football and it was unfair to the customer and had to split the Live games so now instead of only paying Sky for Football people now have to pay Setanta £10 a month as well
Rip Off Britain……
How the fuck is that fair to the customer. Fuck Setanta
seb robin didn’t score!
Fucking Hell Seb
I am pleased someone else mentioned that, I was going to do it earlier but felt that I was scapegoating Song for being fucking Shite like the bloke said this morning
Wenger was arms in the air and Songs Facial Expression barely recognised we had scored a goal
Get Rid please
As much as I think the squads too thin and needs strengthening, I do feel we’ve lost games this season coz of our attitude and lack of effort rather than the quality of the players on the pitch.
If we start games like we have finished them in the last few games, then we’ll do something this season.
Angry, Nasri is what we missed last season
If we had let no one go and just brought Nasri in, we would be right up there now.
If The Arsenal keep the pressure on villa, I feel that villa will come undone, I really do, but we must keep winning, & if we do, we might……just might…….grab an F A Cup & CL trophy.
…………………shit if we keep on winning it still might come down to an away win @ Old Cow paddock, 2nd last game, with Cesc, Theo Eduardo & sicknote, etc
Glass is now 3/4 full for me @ present, & I’m looking for a top up
Pattg;
I know what you’re sayin mate, but the reason we have to get Sky to watch football is coz the greed of the Premier league. Instead of keeping live football on terrestrial TV, they sold the product and their souls to the highest bidder. i know BBC/ITV probably took football for granted and Skysp[orts have done a fantastic job, but more shouldve been done to keep it on free TV!
Now THAT is a feckin rip off! And then the twats had the cheek to have pay per view games too!
Gnarley
Fair play although I think we have to stop hoping that Villa’s luck will run out.
I am actually targetting Chavski
Fuck Villa, they are destined for a whole season of luck.
And I have ruled out seeing Rosicky and Cesc for the whole season. We have to make our own luck and whilst I still think the Premiership is beyond us, I will still be gutted to finish any lower than 3rd in the current climate.
And if Robin had stayed fit last season like this… well…
All this renewed hope and good form will be completely wastewd if we dont get those 2 (at least) signings
I wonder who IS after that oh so brilliant and not at all over priced Palacios fella?? Who else is daft enough to spend way over the top for a player??
Oh yeah! Man Cityof course!
I know Angry
I think what Sky have done for Football is outstanding. ITV or the BBC would never have brought the standard up to that level.
And I was happy, but when they split the package, I just felt like we were being milked even more. I could cope with just paying Sky and then could cope with the Premier Plus for the additional games, but then when I suddenly had to pay another company £10 or £15 a month just to ensure that I got to see the maybe one Arsenal game every two months it took the piss.
I actually have just installed a new dish that gets me German Premiere or Sky Italia dependant on what card I chose to buy and that gives me every Premier League game and some in HD and with English Commentary for a lot less including 3pm Saturday Games.
They have milked the customer too much. Honestly when I cancelled Sky last month to go to Virgin Media on Cable, Sky were suddenly bending over backwards to keep me, offering free months and even a free Sky HD box. I recommend it to everyone. Threaten to leave and they will give you the world.
choy – he won Goal of the Month for December, for his cracker against Liverpool
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2200648/robin_van_persie_vs_liverpool/
the video doesn’t really do it justice
I know RVP was off side for the Little Nicky
sealer, but that exchange of passes was vintage Arsenal, & if thats a sign of what is to come, then we are all in for a great ride over the next 4 months.
The latest from the Arshavin Camp
Arshavin’s agent Dennis Lachter said: “The deal should go through this week. Andrei wants to go, Arsenal want him and Zenit accept they have to sell.
“It’s just a matter of sorting out the sums but the indication is it’ll happen soon, perhaps within days.”
pat
one word for me on that little bit of info
CHAMONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
patthegooner Peppa Pig aint even on the Beeb so I think we can let it go! I’ll give you Night Garden though – my boys love that shit.
The pundits on the BBC might be biased but at least the corporation isn’t inherently corrupt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBNDDF5510M
FUCKING YES! FUCKING YES!
LONDON: Kaka has already issued a snub to Manchester City — by revealing he prefers rivals United and Arsenal!
Milan’s Brazilian star reckons Premier League sides are too predictable apart from United and the Gunners, who are the most “agile” in England.
He said: “Arsenal and Manchester United are different from the other English teams. They play a bit more and are more open.
“They are different from the typical English teams who have a tall striker and hold on to the ball.
“That’s more typical of Liverpool and Chelsea, who are very tactical sides — more English.
“Man United and Arsenal are more agile. They let other teams play and they play, too.”
Kaka, 26, admits his dad, Bosco Leite, plays the key role in deciding his career plans as his agent and most trusted advisor.
The superstar added: “He has helped me with all my professional decisions and has always given me good advice.
“Obviously, my wife and my mum are always at my side, and there are friends, players and coaches.
“I listen to them all. If the advice is good, I take it on board. If it’s not, I put it to the side.”
i keep reading that clichy is shadow of last season not at all ,the whole reason clichy was successful was because of ability bomm forward and pace and his crossing not hi s defending,clichy has always been alot better going forward than he is a defendernothing new to me,he is an ok defender but his ability to bomm forward is been mush more expesive sagna is alot better defender plus he has the ability to go forward but sanga is defender first but thats not the same for clichy,in my opinion silvester is better defender than him but has not got pace to wing back. i aslo feel eboue is not going get another contract and will gon inthe summer especaily if ashivin comes i dont see were is going play he is never going get past sagna,the only reason he is playing is because wicatt is injued when he comes and i think ashivin might be playing,plus risicky and nasri i dont see a place for him, but i feel wenger needs to get more left bacj cover clichy does compition,i would expect to see defenders come in the summer with gallas contract comming to an end at 31 is not likely to get another contract and silvester 31 looks solid enough but nothing spectacualar. so i think eboue and gallas /toure to go in the summer
Right that is me for the day, Great bloggin with you all,
And thanks once again Geoff and Pedro, we saw today the shit you have to deal with the bloke earlier but I appreciate the effort and love the site
Great result for Arsenal today, would have been nice if at least one of the other results went our way. Hopefully this time next week, Arshavin will be wearing the number 10 shirt and we will be linked with another player
I guess Upson did not have that Medical today
Seeya PTG!
Wow. So Villa are the latest media darlings.
Shearer was unbelievable talking about them. “The contacts continued into the box”.
What a plie of shite.
Every incident like that I’ve seen analysed they’ve always, ALWAYS said that “well, initial contact was outside the box, so no penalty”.
They’ve desperate for Villa to finish higher than us.
Can;t wait to ram it down their throats
guys the news of the world have gone mad they reckon arshavin will be getting 96 grand a week lolllllllllllllll
Last point
we should put up a huge banner up opposite the MOTD cameras saying simply
Hansen, Shearer, Lineker, Lawrenson = CLUELESS CUNTS
saw that BBK. They think we;re still after Krancear.
I love how as soon as Nasri scores a goal it’s all this Nasri >>>>Hleb bullshit.
As Pat said, Hleb should still be here and playing instead of Eboue and Nasri still has ways to go before he gives us what Hleb did in overall play.
Nasri was decent today and he is marvellous finisher but I though the overall balance of the side was helped by Diaby in central midfield. His ability to glide up the pitch and give us something different from a the usual short arse. slow, prototype central midfielder we have seemed to give us a better blend.
That NotW article is full o shite! Theyve read the agents comments and just made the figures up.
fuck kjanjcar let him wollow at pompy 96 grand a week lolllllllllthat is too comical i really can not see them paying him that amount of doe
what about nasri’s finish today that was quality i thought he would put it wide
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bbk how u doing pal
Brilliant finish and he seemed to show a bit more ambition today and look to face the play, rather than doing his usual routine of facing the stand to his left and turning his back waiting to get dispossessed.
It’s weird. Apart from Denilson averageness, I don’t really find myself missing Cesc at all. I actually preferred Diaby in there today than Cesc.
Can’t be right
PTG, how do you know Upson didn’t have a medical today?
96,000 a week is bullshit. He said he doesn’t expect Arsenal to pay match his salary at Zenit, but he’d still join us.
He makes 85,000 a week at Zenit
Angry, of Charles Manson took over it would be quite fitting. They’re all a bunch of girls at Tottenham anyway!
easy raif all good m8 just about recovered from that game earlier on
yeah mate i know what u mean. im glad we got the 3 points either way
i was worried we was going to let it slip again
it was looking that way again,after they scored i thought were fucked but credit to them for turning it around for us.Clichy was on a mad one again i dont know what eboue was doing either
Clichy… when i saw him pull away from the player with the ball i was like…
WTF are you doing. then bang Goal. as i didnt see us scoering. but lucky they pulled though,,
Eboue is and always will be a Cown
Clown
you should of left the l and the n out raif
If we get Arshavin…..and continue playing the flat 4-4-2. Then it has to be
Arshavin on the left…Nasri on the right.
Arshavin is skillfull and musch faster than Nasri so he can take ppl n get to the by line. We dont need beautiful curling crosses, low hard crosses can be just as deadly….our players should then make sure they get on the end of them.
Arshavin is also a master of scoring from the left side at a tight angle.(He usually roofs it..its hard for the keeper to save)
I know you cant use youtube to judge a player, but if you watch some of his videos ….its something he does over and over again. It seems like he practices it. I think Arshavin would be much more productive than Nasri on the left. I think with Arshavin on the left, Clichy should stay at home more and concentrate on defending. We would see less of clichy bursting forward but that is not such a bad thing because most of his crosses are poor…even though he had an excellent one to Bendter earlier today.
Nasri may be able to use his trickery more on the right and beat players, since he lacks pace.
If we swicth formation then we can play Nasri centre and still put Arshavin out left. They could interchange with each other if necessary.
4-4-2
……………………Al………………………..
Sagna………Djourou…..Kolo……….Clichy
Nasri…….Diaby……Denislon/NewDM…..Arshavin
…………..RVP………….Ade…………………
4-1-3-2
……………………Al………………………..
Sagna………Djourou…..Kolo……….Clichy
…………….New DM/Denilson………………
Eboe/Bendt……..Nasri/Diaby…………Arshavin
……………RVP…………..Ade…………………
MMoooooooooooooooooooooo
hahahaha
lolllllllll raif
emooooooooooooooue
Also remember in that 4-1-3-2 we also have Walcott coming back for that wide right position.
Hopefully Eduardo will be flly fit soon and can be a sub for Ade or RVP.
Bendter seems to be enjoying himself when he comes from deep.
Look at what has happend he came on wide right two times and have delivered.
It seems Bendnter’s best position may be one of those 3 behind the front 2 in the 4-1-3-2 formation.
HAHAHAHA thats funny as hell
BBK who do we have next?
what do you mean raif????? you lost me there m8
next team. Arsenal have?
oh seen cardiff next sunday then everton the following wednesday
we should have Cardiff. Ramsy should get a run out at his old Stamping ground aswell
Rest RVP for the cardiff game
it will be tricky but i think we should be able to turn them over
clichy will be banned for the cardiff game
i wonder who will play Left back then
gibbs
ahh yeah, we should expect most of the kids to play aswell
it will probably be the same team he put out against plymouth
Fabianski, Sagna, Gallas, Djourou, Silvestre, Eboue, Ramsey, Diaby, Nasri, Van Persie, Bendtner.
Subs: Almunia, Vela, Wilshere, Adebayor, Bischoff, Gibbs, Randall.team to play cardiff i reckon
apart from silvest and gallas
hmm yeah i see what u mean..
what do u think of this Upson Story?
i only believe these story’s when i see the cunt’s faces on arsenal . com lolllllll
haha thats like me. once i see them Smiling Holding the shirt then im happy to believe.
news of the world reckon arshavin will be getting 96 grand a week what a load of ballacks
yeah its rubbish mate. anyways man im off. till next time
cool raif
I don’t think Wenger will risk RVP in the FAC
MOMENTUM IS KEY TO US PUShing for 4th he needs to play next week
nah i don’t think vp will play, i think it’ll be bendtner and vela, with vp and ade on the bench to come on if needed, or if we’re comfortable then eduardo will come on! other than that the team will be similar, fab in goal but same defence, nasri, eboue song and ramsey probably
we all saw what happend at o.t when he fucked about with the team he needs a solid team for cardiff
doesnt rvp turning and spinning all the time really infuriate u?!
really wanted to see vela today…. eboue was soooo bad!! why does arsene insist!!!
BBK
i heard somewhere they are releasing bitchslap !
i personally would rather wenger start full strength and sub on bends after the job is done..
so far he has been brilliant as an impact sub .. and this is our only chance to win a cup this season ..
and no , no fucking chance in the C.L if we get past roma it will be a miracle ..
and remember arshavin cant play in the C.L he is cup tied . so expect strong resistance there
and i think last nights victory was pretty average until wenger started subing ..
eboue wasn’t that bad at all darren, a few wayward passes but good direct running and created space.
rvp is incredible, he could be one of the best players of our generation, if he stays fit we’ve still got a shout at the league.
Bendtner after coming on was absolutely incredible, and ade actually had a very good game, especially first half! diaby was attrocious again though, and djourou is still a mistake waiting to happen. Clichy was very poor too!
bbk this isn’t the same, bendtner has earnt a start, as has vela, and wenger has already said fabianski and ramsey are going to feature regularly in the fa cup, fabianski every round. We’ll beat cardiff with half a team
A get off it mate… eboue was sooo bad. he made one good direct run but i watched the game and counted the number of complete passes he made forward and could only count the amount on one hand!!!!
also rvp isnt the answer to the league!!! its a defensive midfielder and a team without eboue in it..
agreee bendtner was good and ade was crap!!! he scored one game… looked lazy as always.. and no diaby was solid… didnt do much wrong at all!!!
also we will not walk over cardiff with a half team at all!!!!
Hey guys, love the site… fucking awesome.
Geoff and Pedro are the voice of Arsenal!
Come on the Goonerssssssss!
3 or 4 in the first half darren, he was our best player imo for the first 20 mins, then became less and less involved as the game went on and lost confidence etc ended pretty pants. yeah we need a defensive mid desperately, after an attacking mid, though on bendtner’s showing last few games maybe he can just play in a deeper role if we don’t get arshavin!
diaby gave the ball away more than any other player on our team, did get his foot in but his positional sense is soooooo bad! Denilson looked so nervous about moving an inch forwards because he knew he had to cover for diaby the whole time!
ade’s touch and passing, first half especially was absolutely exceptional, though second half he did return to his former lazy self, first half was the best he’s played this season by a mile imo
yeah we will walk cardiff with half a team, we struggle against crappy prem teams who have practiced playing defensive football all season, top championship teams aren’t anywhere near as good at the anti-football as they havn’t had the practice. Fabianski and ramsey will definitely play, and vela and bendtner would tear cardiff apart, i’d be very surprised if the 4 of them didn’t start against cardiff, or at the very least fabs, ramsey, and bendtner.
We know fabs is the fa cup keeper, and wenger mentioned ramsey in a similar vein, as our fa cup midfielder, and bendtner deserves a start, and will likely score, whether he’s alongside ade, vela, vp, or in a more withdrawn role
just watched a the game with Pedro, football now makes sense!! long time coming i know, but better late than never…
ade goal was shocking .. 6 yard box jumping straight up , it hit his head and he almost looked shocked as it bounced off his forehead .. i think he was shocked it went in also !
but A i do agree RVP looks more threatening as time goes on .. his free kicks are lethal .
and its so good to have a striker who looks confident from a spot kick ..
eboue was again pretty useless .. missed a sitter and simply has not scored enough from midfeild
to be considered anything but a sub .. diaby was anonymous as ever , and we didnt look threatening until wenger sub’d in bends and took out ade .. nasri battled hard and given time will be a star ..
we have the players on the bench who can make a difference but wenger chooses not to start vela – for eboue , and ramsey for diaby .. and i think nik does deserve a start over ade , especially if you believe wenger is thinking to get shot of him !
i think selling nik b would be a big mistake for the future .. same as we did with mumbva
of course wenger isn’t looking to get rid of bendtner ethan, it’s just idiotic tabloid journalism!
well its more than that as someone suggested we are getting upson for nik b ..
geoff even posted about it ..
and rumors also have us linked with him ..
(upson)
you could believe that wenger was thinking about getting rid of him ..
prior too his impact sub role he was pretty woeful ..
he is just like ade .. only seems motivated once he’s dropped ..
well if thats the way to get the best out of either of them wenger should rotate them until
one stands out ..
my bet is that it will be nik b , he combines far better with RVP than ade…
rvp and ade seem to be 2 individuals on the pitch at the same time ..
once nik came in the link up was far more fluid ..
i hope wenger is taking notes , because he never seems to learn who his best starting 11 is !
All three were good goals, including the fourth that wasn’t and cam back off the post.
Bendtner was awesome. I wonder if he deserves to start on the right instead of Eboue. Some of his link up play was brilliant.
Eboue had a reasonably tidy game.
Ethan, Ade deserved the first goal. It was a good goal.
morning all,
a few pointers from yestdays bloggers, obviously just i.m.o.
I find it totally unnecessary to have a heated debate about racism and in paricular about eboue DURING the game itself.eboue is at best a right back and cover for sagna. wenger choses were to play him not us.
the upson/bedtner rumour of a deal concerns me.As already stated before,he is still young and suddenly as an impact player he is improving rapidly.i hope the board,who are more interested in money don’t take a view that he is now worth selling as his value has gone up.We need him as cover at the very least until the summer,and we need to gauge the return of eduardo.
if only we had a player like lampard or gerrard(love them or hate them)who can single handedly drive on a team and score vital goals.
To me the defence is still the major problem as there is still an uncertainty in communication between them and almunia,though in fairness we still don’t really know our best line up.
Nasri, is really beginning to excite, his best away game by far.rvp is vital to us this season and i disagree with some about ade’s header,it was very well taken.he needs to keep practising that aspect of his game.
denilson and diaby now have a chance to see if they really make first team impact,again both are young.
hi guys, i am really contended with a resalt, van persie was magnificant but sad he hsn’t scored, diaby played well, he has great skills but maybe must work on pass… overall goOd game…
waiting for player rating
Unproven or relatively cheap players that worked out well for AW – for the record..
Anelka
Clichy
Adebayor
Vela
Bendtner
Vieira
Overmars
Petit
Fab 4
DB 10
TH 14
Pires
Campbell
Toure
Djourou
Denilson
Jeffers
Chris Wrea
Song
Mendez
Big Phil
Laft bald headed lousy centre back whose name escapes me
Tavilaridis
Aliadiere
He must sign 3 kids for every one that works – it’s cheaper that way – although not really very fair on the kids.
Still have high hopes for some of the current crop tho. Particularly
Coquelin
Wilshere
Vela
IF vela is as good as I think he is – then we’ll have an international superstar on our hands – and he’ll learn from Eduardo too – the goal amchine.
8 unbeaten with 4 wins, not too far off the top, great players due to come back from injury, potential new signing, djourou starting to look like a 6ft 4 inch CB with pace and skill… It’s not horrific.
League will finish this year as follows…
Man U
Chelsea
Arsenal
Liverpool
Villa
There’s still half a season to go – and that’s a long time.