So Kolo Toure at last realises his long awaited dream and becomes captain of Arsenal, well done Kolo and well done Arsene, he should have got this when you dissed Gilberto but he didn’t, so credit to you boss for giving it to him know, I can’t think of a more deserving player, or a fan that wouldn’t concur.
I guess that means Kolo and Djourou forming the centre back partnership and that has to be good news, it’s one I have wanted to see all season, two young’uns and neither with any history from other clubs, so good luck boys.
With the news that Kolo will be captain until Cesc returns that must also mean he not only intends to keep him, but that he intends to play him, so that may also give him his zip back and we’ll see the old Kolo, he’s only 27 and centre backs don’t come of age until they’re 29, so this could be the pairing we’ve been waiting for.
This will free up the funds to bring in the defensive midfield player we need so badly, we already know he’s after Arshavin so with luck he’ll go out for the big name midfielder, maybe Veloso, our options are fast disappearing with Alonso and Barry out of reach, Cana and Inler no longer on the radar, and the ItaIians saying no, I just hope it’s not a small African from an obscure French side, because that will hurt us at ACN times.
Onto today, I expect a message to go out that King Kolo is back, Almunia said that Arsenal are discovering the will to win again, oh thanks Manuel, I hope your wages are docked for those matches when you all lacked the will to win.
4 nil to the good guys!
P.S. Tickets are running low on Le Exchange… if you have any spares, don’t waste them… see if you can pass them on first!
Le Grove is now smart phone compatible!
Pedro
Geoff
morning all
good post and fuck i love benitez for his comments against scum nose, i reckon he has a fine coming on, but lets just say the more focus on them, the better for us!
Long live king kolo get in there!!!!!
how is everyone by the way, hope you’re all fit and well!
need a pumping tonight, at least a 4-0 or better! a clean sheet would probably be our best wish!
I’m gonna go with 2-0…………….
RvP and Nasri (is he playing?)………..
hopefully the pizza will be here shortly, but in the mean time is anyone hoping Denilson will be back tonight or someone else in his place?
REPOSTING THIS JUST IN CASE SOMEONE KNOWS SOMETHING.
Does anyone on this site play the Daily Telegraph’s Fantasy Football?
And if so, have they noticed that there appears to be errors with players’ points?
For example, N. Vidic’s started 17 times yet is down as having started 18 times.
As such, his tally is off by 6 points (he’s been awarded with an extra clean sheet, to boot).
Any feedback would be great.
Thanks
No Arsenal on Fox Sports tonight EVO.
You may have been waiting around for nothing.
I reckon 3-1 RvP getting 2 and ade scoring
Song own goal if he plays, 3-0 if he dont, god
how i hate that fucker luckiest man alive
according to the daily mirror team sheet fabregas is playing they get worse every week
Good post geoff.
3 nil for us.
yeah no telecast tonight so ill be watching on the net instead!
Maximus, we’re all on the Le Grove fantasy league… it’s FG in the tabs at the top!
Guys, on the loans stuff… it’s not true… according to someone who has given us some good info in the past, we have a decent transfer budget… but in the current climate, the board wont risk anything stupid. The loans and all the rest are taken care of… as demonstrated by the figures.
I understand that… I think a lot of bad things are going to happen to clubs in the next few months.
West Ham, Liverpool, Manu and Chavski are all in a trouble… so we’ll have to wait an see what comes of it.
i think RVP will score !
we should win …
it will be dirty …
a slug fest …
even …
GO U GUNNERS !
well last season we had a dream run until christmas , lets hope this season we have a dream run after it ..
lets also hope vela ramsey and jack can force themselves into the side and get out the dead weight in the team …
(song)
pepperoni pizza is up there with the best!
Oh, and good post Geoff… my thoughts exactly.
KING KOLO RETURNS!
Makes you wonder what happens to Gallas when he is back if those two can’t play together?
Oh… and once again… can I just laugh at the people who said he was clearing his locker.
Ethan, there has been some blog slacking from you lately… where have you been!
evo
What link will the Goons be on the net, do you know?
i must admit blog slacking on my behalf also, but im up for some signing and a win!
Evening Pedro
Can you explain that box to tick or not to tick below the comments section?
No Denilson + No Eboue = 3-0 victory
1 x Denilson + No Eboue = 1-0 victory + boos at half time
No Denilson + 1 x Eboue = 1-0 victory + boos at half time
1 x Denilson + 1 x Eboue = 1-1 draw + boos at half time + boos at full time.
See how easy it is to convert Arsenal into a mathematical forumla?
Pedro
Was that a little dig at AI/Fabregas the clown by any chance?
ha ha
I love it when the manager’s have dossier’s.
hey Gnarley how are you mate?
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/ – lists as links will follow…
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=28120&part=sports – lists as links will follow from 11:00
should be 1 amongst those no worries mate
Cheers evo
I’m ok, how about yourself
Anyway, I had a little chat with my mate at the Gooners last night, and though we were both a bit sloshed, he reckons there’s still no chance of the Arshavin deal happening.
Apparently we weren’t intending to big until we realised nobody else was, and then we thought we’d try to sneak him in on the cheap. As it turns out though, Zent aren’t budging an inch from their valuation, despite Arshavin’s threats. Whether or not we’re going to continue negotiations much longer, I don’t know, but my mate reckons little or no progress is being made.
Actually evo its good to see your avatar, i’ve been getting it from the English chaps/chapess over the cricket, etc
I play the Telegraph Fantasy Footie game, and I’ve noticed a few weird things, scoring wise, over the past few weeks!!
Those are just rumours that some of the more junior corporate types in the club are hearing anyway….
Take that for what it’s worth – as I said, not that close to the team, but still inside the club.
Speak of the devil, Evening DDM, Going to the game today?
Morning all, top top headline Geoff, and I am pleased KK is back where he will prove he belongs – Long Live The King Kolo
george – you getting at me
Morning,
I agree completely agree witht he sentiments of the post. If this doesn’t bring Kolo back to his best then nothing will. Good luck Kolo.
But isn’t a subplot of this that Almunia has been stripped of vice-captaincy? That seems to have slipped uder the radar?!!
I make that 5 captains to coutn this year
Big Willy
Big Al
Super Cesc
Ragin’ Robin and finally
King Kolo…
We have to be top of the league on that front at least?
Jimbo, I read the sticking point is the cash up front…
Zenit paid CSKA for Danny up front and they want the same in return. They have to sell though… otherwise the value will halve, the player will be disinterested and they’ll look incompetent.
Evo, you were slacking but I’ve noted improved performance of late.
Pedro
Why the Notify me of followup comments via email ?
rico
What makes you think i was referring to you
JD and Kolo: a centre-half pairing to believe in. The season starts here. Kolo brings something to the team when he is firing on all cylinders. Something that we have been missing for a while. I always feel more optimistic when he plays. I think he has felt under-valued by the club of late, but after his clear-the-air talk with Le Boss, and the captain’s armband back on his arm, he’ll be champing at the bit, and he’ll be outstanding tonight. Kolo Toure: Arsenal Legend.
If Arsenal don’t start to lift their game, I might start slackening off, & concetrating more on this -
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=zw__B4LZj_g&feature=dir
evo will understand
G’day Gnarley, how’s my favourite convict
Yep, braving the cold today to cheer on the Mighty Reds….
whoa! Dos this actually mean Gallas will be offski? Shame really good player in the main, just a total twat with that oh so ‘fwench’ les miserables!
If it’s true that Kolo can’t work with Gallas hopefully we’ll see areturn to form over the next few weeks. Then Gallas can go in the summer and he won’t be missed.
Pedro
just hanging with my family over Christmas ITS CHILDRENS DAY HERE TODAY …yes in thailand we have a childrens day .. .. plus Arsenal hasn’t exactly been a hive of improvement/ change recently .. not much to add that all the grovers haven’t already touched on .
But all is back to normal next week so ill try not too SLACK OFF too much
well im back now Gnarley and fuck the cricket, yes we are shite, but i think we will stuff the saffas on their home soil no worries!
are we still on for the opening game of the AFL season?
Pedro
plus im over transfer speculation ..
i used to love it .. hoping , wishing for a dream signing ..
and tonight im sure ill have to watch song play CM .. oh fucking joy
i cant wait
(was that sarcastic enough ?)
Transfer speculation @ AFC = pointless , boring and futile !
i dunno about that jraynor. Arsene just said Kolo will be captain WHEN HE PLAYS. It’ll be very interesting to see what happens when gallas returns from injury. We can’t afford to lose gallas this transfer window though, but hopefully kolo will return to form and we can let him go in the summer bring a top defender in.
Morning All,
Sorry to be a dissenting voice but I think JD and WG is our best CH pairing. WG is the best defender at the club and deserves his place in the team.
WG’s value to the team is clear, he has scored important goals, and is a fine player.
I expect JD to be back on the sub’s bench when WG gets fit. And the old Kolo/WG partnership to return.
Unless WG is on his way out of the club in Jan !
evo
I’m going with my work collegues. Richmond V Carlton thursday night 90,000, then dinner in the members on Friday night for Geelong V Hawks 80,000. But if you are going to be in town we can catch up no probs. Have a couple of coldies in Lygon Street, which should be good
Pedro – you could be right, but it could also just be media nonsense.
All I’m passing on is what my Gunners mate said last night – as he works at the club, thought it may have some value.
i agree raddy, though i’m not sure about the gallas toure partnership returning just because arsene specifically said that djourou came back in because he needed height. The only game they’ve played together recently was villa because of djourou’s injury in the warm up, and we were absolutely slaughtered in the air, albeit with a very unfit kolo.
At the moment i’d say when gallas returns kolo will be back on the bench, unless he’s sensational in these 3 weeks.
Let’s hope he’s sensational then: seems a bit pointless making a deliberate and high profile vice-captaincy appointment if the intention is to let him warm the bench after a few games.
Gnarley,
I think the notify bit is for blogs that get 7 comments a day… you leave a comment at 0900… and might have to wait till 1200 for a response… so instead of refreshing like a madman… you can just let the blog notify you.
I wouldn’t call it that high profile an appointment. It’s the fact that wenger said “He will play tomorrow and so when Kolo Toure plays, he is captain.”
To me it doesn’t sound like he’s necessarily a regular still, but yeah I hope he’s sensational over the next few weeks! Though the toure djourou does worry me a bit, neither are particularly composed or intelligent defenders, both operate better with someone who reads the game better and has those skills imo but hopefullt it’ll work well anyways
it’ll be an early morning for me. Just got in and need to get a little sleep before the match. 3-0 today. RvP, Nasri, and one from the new super sub Vela late on.
george – the lasses bit
posted yesterday about Silvestre and Gallas both spookily enough out for three weeks, I think they could be off, although arsene insisted no-one will be leaving…..
Jimbo… I don’t reckon Arsenal would get involved in a silly game like that just to appease the supporters. I think he’s wanted him since last year… and fingers crossed, we’ll get him!
I don’t know anymore than you though… it’s just a gut feel, a columbo style hunch!
righto a beer at lygon street it is
I don’t know why, but I am excited by today’s game. After the pants we have seen in the EPL over the last 10+ games, I have no reason to anticipate it so much.
If we can play with the level of commitment we saw against Plymouth, we will hammer Bolton.
Evo
What’s a saffa?
Raddy… second half Plymouth.
Is Song starting today? I didn’t see if he was back from injury?
A, the fact that he’s made such a clear statement makes it high-profile (media-wise) in my eyes. I hope they do well, but fully realise that a clean sheet against Bolton won’t necessarily mean we’ve solved all of our defensive prolems!
South African
I hope we raise the roof for Kolo. Commitment and heart means a lot to the faithful at the moment… so him getting the captaincy is great for everyone.
A bit obvious now you’ve said it Pedro. Thanks
saffa = seouth effrican
Song is available today Pedro, just hope he is not selected!
I wouldn’t of known, but I have history with South African women…
Morning All,
IMHO Gallas the foootballer should stay, as Raddy said earlier he IS a great player who has earned us a few points with vital goals, however, Gallas the man is, again, IMO a very disruptive influence and not very likeable. I would love to know what the atmosphere is really like in the dressing room when he is/is’nt about. Today though we are going to stuff Bolton,Villa are going to get beaten in the black country derby, and the chavs and the mancs will draw tomorrow and the lottery no’s tonight are 1,15,19,34,39 & 46
Have a good day grovers & Up The Arsenal!!!
Rico… bummer…
Oh well, lets hope he has a good game and made a resolution to play well this year!
course he will be rico! However a sad state of affairs it is, he has to start every game with our current squad and in our current predicament!
What with Rafa socking it to old red nose, Gareth Southgate putting the spuds in their place, Arsene hinting at tranfers, my local showing the game at 3.00 (on a Saturday) it doesn’t get much better … C’mon King Kolo, c’mon you Gunners. 3 – 0 (van Persie, Ade and Rambo).
Podolski has gone to Cologne
Evo/GG,
I am so f’ing envious. Can’t say I understand too much about Aussie Rules, but any game with 90,000 fans must be good. And Aussie beer tastes fine (after the first 4 !)
Over here it is the winter break from footie. The national sport is handball – which is a woman’s sport.
I live 400m from the Parken where Kobenhavn play. They have a fantasic kid on their books called Mathias Jorgensen – could be a Veiera double. (though he is white) 6′ 3″ DM. He is going to be a big name…..
JerseyGooner – are you in the Island of potatoes? or an expat?
I’m not reading Kolo getting the captaincy as Gallas being sold.
The coach has already said no one will leave (Just like he said in the summer, right?)… so he will have to accommodate the two.
BR
i agree gallas – johan is the best current combo we have ..
maybe fish face – gallas too if given some time ….. but gallas is injured .. so rest assured youll get your combo back when gallas is better and if he dont leave to goto AC ..
i think currently we have a good defensive set up ..
but how long will fishface- gallas – toure stay happy when more than certainly soon one will have to take a back seat ….
sure none can play together well , but individually on paper they all are top class , which is more than i can say for some of our midfeilders and strikers .
mentioning no names (ADE ! )
long term toure would/should be our DM , or at least be given a chance next to cesc …
then at least you get a bit more experience on the field ..
johan has been a shining light this season ! well done to the young lad !
he has potential !
and for his age the best is yet to come !!
Do you think kolo is a regular for sure now then pedro? I’m really not sure just because of arsene making a point of saying kolo will be captain, “when he plays”
Reading the transcript, I’m not to sure… unless he wants to put him in the DM role?
Gallas and Kolo don’t work… Wenger said that… Gallas is the better defender… so something has to budge doesn’t it?
Kolo would offer more solidity out on the right than Eboue I think… maybe that is what he is thinking?
1 will have a wager with anyone,come the summer we will have lost more so called experience players,than are brought in.the kids policy will continue until wenger’s contract is up.that’s the reality as i see it.
Fishface came with the expectation of getting a few first team games for one or at most two seasons.
He will be happy to pick up his 50k a week on the bench….
Good point Pedro/A
Graham, Radford GEORGE
Trindle – Jersey channel islands , and yes we grow potatoes though some of us have proper jobs like fisherman or wheelmaker
PEDRO
Gallas and Kolo don’t work… Wenger said that… Gallas is the better defender… so something has to budge doesn’t it?
thats why it makes sense to make toure DM .. THEO – TOURE – CESC – NASRI
reasonable ..
not sure if wenger needs a cat scan but i cant think of a reason why he hasnt done it so far this season …
maybe the exceptional talent on song is keeping toure from breaking into the side …
COUGH !..
Big Rad – legendry information mate, love you long time! Maybe wenger has one of his many scouts onto mathis jorgenson?
half the good aussie rules sportsman end up in the NFL (gridiron) these days due to their huge punting skills…
anyway, im shooting for a 4-0 pumping in agreeance with Geoff tonight, no more, no less. a clean sheet is also my priority!
Kelsey, I think you will see a lot of players been shifted in the summer due to clubs being in trouble.
I don’t think the price of players will go up… it will go down, then arsenal will be in position A to pounce.
I agree Kelsey. I can see WG leaving, and if Swiss Phil returns there is the distinct possibilty that Kolo will go (sad to say).
And Fishface, maybe Mozart (not that he will be missed !). Eboue could go as well.
But the kids on loan will bring some EPL experience with them. Nasri will have a season under his belt. Ramsey will be 19, etc etc
Add the two/three signings we pray for, and I think we will be very strong next season
Greetings from your sister Island – football crossing boundaries!
For anyone who likes the online documentaries, I am watching one called ‘esoteric agenda’ and it’s superb. Well worth a watch.
I just read on Wiki that Jorgensen has been on trial at Arsenal and he turned us down !
If that is true, I am going up there to give him a stiff talking to. Dumb Danish Divot.
morning all…
how is everyone doing?
Pedro, is that another of your conspiracy docus ?
get Bendtner up there with you!
Morning Choy. How is life in ChoyWorld ?
is that X rated pedro
BR.. its madness.. hardly get time on le grove.. doesn’t help that the computers at work are so slow…
heheh.. and we haven’t bought anyone yet!!!
how are things with you BR?
choyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
how you doing evo… what time is the game there? its at 8.30pm local time today… thank fuckl for espn
It’s not a conspiracy… it’s all based on documented fact. It even talks about the term ‘conspiracy theory’ and how it is one of the best terms ever coined to stop people asking questions.
It’s good though, you should have a watch if you get the chance.
The only conspiracy theory I want to understand is the ‘song getting picked all the time’ theory.
Choy, it’s not X-rated! haha!
I would love to see Gallas and Djourou at CB and Toure instead of Song in the Holding Midfield Role. I think it could be the real making of him.
And lets face it, he cant be any worse than Song.
As for today, there have been some positive vibes coming out of the club for a change and I think that will reflect in the result and performance. Comfortable 2 or 3 goal win.
And I am worried about this Arshavin Deal. I was pissed in the summer when Wenger gambled on getting Alonso on deadline day and especially for not paying the extra 2m, but in this case I completely understand why we are holding out. It sounds as if we are about 8m apart and Arshavin is just not worth it. We could probably get someome actually worth 20m if we had it. Arshavin is rightly valued by Wenger at 12m in my mind. I think he is a talent, but there are too many questions hanging over him and especially the fact that he has never played outside Russia for a top flight club. My worry though is that we gamble again on Zenit breaking and then end up with no one. Wenger needs a plan B and he cant leave it until deadline day to put it into action.
i have said from the start and i honestly believe that Kolo’s poor form has been down to Gallas….. he hates palying with him.. i reckon if kolo gets a good run of games and works hard in training he can get back to his best
Also if we dont sign a DM in january then he shud puy coquelin in there!!! he better than that CUNT alex song
haha pedro.. will take a look..
if kolo’s poor form is down to gallas,is clichy’s bad defensive form due to song,or gallas or almunia.is almunia just average because he is at the least erratic,doesn’t correspond with the defence and visa vers.is bedtner the loner who doesn’t communicate with rvp and ade,is ade too big for his boots,is rvp the same.is walcott fed up that his contract renewel is being delayed.is eboue a left winger etc.
first and foremost it is a team game and there is something alarmingly wrong that we can’t put a couple of decent performances together one after the other.wenger talks bull,there is no leadership on or off the field and i havent seen anything recently to show we are improving.
King Kolo?
The way he’s played for 2 seasons he’s more like Court Jester Kolo.
SELL SELL SELL
wenger does not want a defensive signing so i guess we seeing song more often then
10:30pm here now choy mate. think i mite die before the kick off, need to inject a few more waters in between the beers to survive!
Kolo and Djourou!¬ Me likey! Me likey long time! Erm, anyhoo, Im expectin an Arsenal side full of vigour, hunger and zip today!
Is that asking too much?
Kelsey
Jeez fella, are you OK? You seem depressed!
AL.. that is a lot to ask…
hydrate yourself evo.. with water!!! ehehehe
im trying, a few scotchs keep sneaking in, but ill be there for the kick off one way or another…
long live the king lol
im expecting us to absolutely batter bolton today.
theres been more of a positive vibe around the club the last few days, im expecting it to be chanelled into a stunning performance on the pitch
jon jon -you’re the man if you are correct, i bloody hope so!
someones getting a hatrick today boys
rvps right foot is becoming deadlier and deadlier and if he gets 3 today, ade wont be having that, he’ll want 3 too, expect a goal fest at the emirates.
hide your wives, lock away your children, its going to get messy.
yep hide your wives
JonJon
Im with ya on that one fella.
My missus is well ugly and deserves to be hidden away!!!!!!!!
lol!!!
haha
somethings bothered me for while now evo.
no offence to the ladies, but if all brides are beautiful, where do ugly wives come from????
the myP2P link for the game are starting to come thru if anyone needs them…
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=28120&part=sports
who said all brides are beautiful?
Any of you watch the games on justin tv? or world tv?
cheers evo, the more links the merrier, mate
haha choy
frustrated by the lack of ambition not depressed.we were top of the league a year ago and should have won it.wenger is now going down a blind alley,if he thinks we can’t better players like almunia,song and eboue and even bedntner.don’t tell the fans all the bull about buying quality players for the last year,why do they want to leave or have left.
nothing to do with not supporting the club,the fact someone is lying and the media is loving every minute of our performances this year.do you think under the pressure and money involved today that,rafa or fergie or scholari would keep their job for 4 years without any success.
mostly steer clear of justin tv as its usually shit in my experience
AL.. i am in india.. we have espn and star sports.. they show most games…
otherwise the internet…
http://livestreammatches.blogspot.com/
me too evo re justin
kelsey, i hear you brother
this season is a case of i told you so towards whats happened by the fans, and keeping coming up with the same tripe every game doesnt help things,
however, the other 3 wouldnt have lasted two minutes at our club anyway, they couldnt have done the job wengers done with the money he had, given that we were building the stadium as well.
all of them needs to spend millions evey year, aspecially fergie, his team is full of 30mil buys, fergie wouldnt of coped with it at arsenal.
UUUURRRRRMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Someone mention beautiful brides…….. Sorry, I mean Ugly Wives !!!!
JJ – I have to agree with your last old chap
And from what Pedro wrote this morning, we are all going to watch Tumble Time for those ‘big 3′ and we will be in a great position and able to spare a few pounds for players who ‘have’ to be sold to raise capital – bring it on
Typical – i come back on and you all go… Complex or what now
I take the hint, I am off to carry on with the washing and stuff
Yeah, you go do just that rico
O, then so I will
Huff Huff Hufff :8:
woops imeant :9:
Pfffff – neither worked…!
Com on you Brummies, ha ha, the Albion I mean
Villa to draw r lose, then watch them fade away to the darker side of the EPL
Dum de Dum, Da de Da….. I’m all alone, Are we there yet……
Donkey – Be Quiet, for five nminutes
Are we there yet ?
3PM
Are we there yet…….
Are we there yet…. ?…….
Are weeeeeeee there yet ??????
just upgraded my sopcast and tvants for the streams tonight, so im all set!
hey rico
Hey choy
How you doing
rico – lay off the rocket fuel! hahahah
Evo
Are we there yet ?????
Ok, no more
hello rico.. alls well..how about you
van the man is gonna pump them tonight!
just saw the liverpool goal highlight, i hope he has that radar on tonight!
that sure was a cracker evo, sif foxsports dont have the arsenal on :@
can I watch today’s game on the interweb anywhere???
Time is dragging for you is it, Rico ?
all is ok thanks choy – looking forward to the game, and watching it all later on footie first, hoping though to get internet cover aswell, but never seem to be able to
Yes Raddy, it is, but only because i cant wait until 3pm, have a feeling we are going to start our season today…. And I am home alone with all the chores to do and I wish I could turn the speed up on the washing machine….
Rico – for a computer expert like you, a stream is child’s play.
Just follow the links Choy and the boys put up. You may have to listen to a rabid Spaniard , but the picture qualty is normally very good.
Kelsey
I know what you are saying fella. The lack mof investment (not multi million £ buys like JonJon mentioned Fergus and the others have to do) in areas that are crying out for it is really frustrating! But even at our shittest, there is still some positives and before every game, thats when I am optimistic!
Do it tomorrow Rico. The clothes will only get dirty again. Same goes for the dishes !
I’m with you Angry, there are positives before every game.
4-1 today
5-0 to the boys with King Kolo getting his first ever hat trick, left foot, right foot and a header from 30 yards…
We’ve got King Kolo
We’ve got King Kolo
We’ve got King Kolo
and
Gallas has to go…
Patrick Swayze has suffered a cancer set-back and has been admitted to hospital with pneumonia
That is so sad
early game is just about to come on…
come on tony mowbray and the baggies
Oh dear Geoff not another prediction …can you just leave that part of your blog out it always puts the mockers on us.
come on jay simpson, premier league debut!
i reckon simpson is going to put the moz on villa and fuck them over with a hat trick!
laursen to get injured in the warm up, simpson to score a hat trick and young to get to for villa, 3-2 the baggies, suits us and suits my fantasy team
Sounds good to me Benno
I will try Raddy – justin tv i often try but it seems to get full suickly, but i will keep trying, thanks for your help
simpson involved early, looks good
justin tv sucks donkeys balls
Come on Jay, stuff a hat trick past them
Yeah i only use JTV for watching the big boxing fights.
Evo, are you into boxing?
I tell ya Simpson looks very good
UFC is sick, i love that shit!
while you wait for the big game cheer yourself up and watch Jay Simpson currently starting and starring for WBA at Villa…
he’s done more in the first ten minutes to make me smile than Bendner all season…
currently on Setanta in the States.
Villa 1-0 Bollocks
Isnt it a really sad fact that instead of looking out for the Man Ure, Chavski and Liverpool Scores, we are more concerned with Everton and Villa
yeah dont mind the boxing i must say
how can the baggies play such good football and look like they are going to score thru simpson and then villa make their only foray forward and score after putting a few balls into the box and getting it cleared off the line and then eventually put it in. that is arsenal defending if ive ever seen it!
Very sad pat.
Villa are gonna push us to the wire if we are not careful
thank fuck kevin nolan is out. that cunt would win it of his own head against us
Kinnear took the unusual step of contacting his counterpart at The Emirates Stadium.
“I have spoken to Arsene Wenger and he said he’s not interested in any of my players, so I don’t know where the agent is coming from.
“We are looking into it. If it is true, then the agent is being disrespectful. He’s never had the decency to explain anything to any member of this football club,” said Kinnear.
“It’s laughable, to be honest.
It’s absolute nonsense.
thank fuck we arent in for nzogbia
Arsene Wenger
“We have definitely become more solid over the last few weeks. As a team we are better defensively and I also think that the creative spark will come back quickly, as confidence builds.”
Every Gooner
“errr boss Song has not been in the team the last few weeks!”
Trouble is gunner8 he is blinkered for some reason and me thinks it could be to do with getting another “exceptional talent” visa for a yet to be named player.
wow 17 straight Comments on the Trot by Rico lol that must Be a Record
by the way hello grovers. JonJon
New post
Watching another Arsenal youngster an a slightly cringeworthy way. You know Simpson has a shit touch and average league one standard all round game so I just hope the lad doesn’t embarrass himself too much.
Hello Raif – Starting line up yet?
paulinho – can i smoke some hash with you?
Good one, you put Rafas pic as Le Champ, lmao!!
Arsenal (from): Almunia, Sagna, Djourou, Toure, Clichy, Eboue, Denilson, Song, Nasri, Adebayor, Van Persie, Fabianski, Diaby, Ramsey, Bendtner, Wilshere, Gibbs, Vela.
Paulinho – Simpson is quality i’d rather have him than nikb to be honest
U know that ugly goofy cunt agbonglawhore looks like Bubba from Forrest Gump!!
scott carson is shit
just less black
Fried shrimp, grilled shrimp,steamed shrimp……
shrimp en potatoes
I think you’ve probably seen in the last few minutes what I was talking about. Great pace, powerful, but hasn’t got a clue when to release the ball or how to shield it.
Guarantee he comes off after half time.
Fucki hate agcraplabonglafuckheadwhore!!!! (Gabby?? what a gay nick name)
looks like we’ll be 6 behind the brummie cunts. I’ve really grown to hate them lately
same
i fucking hate Villa, they like to give a good kicking but ohhhh god forbid u do it back, roll around screaming
Paulinho – i’m not watching the game but i will have a cyber £5er with you that he’s on for the 2nd half – What kind of manager would do that to a player on his debut, it would shatter the lad.
I don’t think it’d shatter him, they’ve got 10 men in their own half to deal with 3 of Villa’s players, Simpson gets tha ball and he’s looking around for someone to pass it to and there’s no-one there.
How much of a difference must it be from playing with people that play in both havles of the pitch to West Brom who’ve just left him and Moore alone up front, why not use Bednar and have Simpson running off him ffs.
Villa lose Young and maybe Milnar for any period of time and their pretty much fucked.
problem for us with gabonglahor or whatever the fuck his name is that he is playing as a lone striker for villa while carew is out and scoring goals. theo couldnt score a goal in a brothel of pitches of empty nets
Jerseygooner, it will probably be sixty minutes if it isn’t half time. Either way, he comes off.
I want Simpson to do well and he would if he could find himself in a counter attack situation with space to run into but at this level, and with his lack of real quality, that will happen once in a blue moon.
So, for ninety per cent of the time your left with him dropping deep being put under pressure trying to find a pass. That’s where I cringe for the lad. It doesn’t help that he’s playing a team with midfielders that seem too scared to run beyond.
lol
*playing with a team with midfielders*
But like i say i’m not wathing it so i’ll say no more. whats the score tho?
good post geoff ….. its Villa 2 – West Brom 0. Hope thats not the final score … really hope they loose this one …
Nice to see Kolo got the captaincy … would love the see this formation tho
Alumnia
Sagna Toure Djouro Clichy
Diaby Ramsey Nasri Vela
Ade RVP
or
Alumnia
Sagna Toure Djouro Clichy
Diaby Ramsey Vela
Nasri
Ade RVP
I say 3 – 1 … really would hope for a clean sheet … but I dont think Alumina is capable of doing that ….
he realy needs to snap pout of bad form he has been without dought the week link in the defence in early part of the season,gallas is not blameless but toure has not been in the best form it looks as if villa are going to win the match today so it is must win but i have keep on saying without some major signing the way villa are playing it looks like just to 3-4
Give the poor lad a chance, he hasnt been with Albion very long, he needs a few games, then he will be a big player for them and will get goals
Almunia isnt the problem, its the shite defending. id back almunia to save penalties before van der saar or any other cunt in the league (brad friedel included)!
Seriously Rico, I think he should retire. It’s all gone wrong for Jay Simpson
Even at home there seems to be space for Villa when they attack.
When the baggies attack, the whole Villa team seem to be behind the ball.
It’s that whole defending as a team and attacking as a team thing.
Gangbanglawhore is a spawny fuck too.
Serious Evo?
The guy is David James’ brother, absolute calamity very eccentric and has poor positioning, he cant even claim a cross!
Id back Fabianski any day
AV as so lucky, they’re the team that gets the most own-goals for them… 4 this season i think..
Arsenal, Hull, WBA and some other team
Bubba Gump almost scored again
Jay still on – surprise, surprise.
Luke Moore off, Bednar on.
goooooooooooooooooallllllllllllllllllllllll
baggies
YESSSS!!! Hahaha Villa! U Bubba Gump Playing Cunts
!!!!
Jerseygooner
hi dude,
i havent heard anything about the starting line up yet.
im also going to miss the match as i have guests coming over,
Hi all!
Good post and I’m sort of glad that Kolo is skipper.
Yes he deserves it because of his Arsenal history and the affinity he has with the club but aren’t we forgetting something here.
He wanted to leave a week or so ago. Should he be rewarded with this??
Jersey, you’ve won the bet. Well done son.
Yeh,
I think So Wrighty7, he has proved him sefl over & over
Yet Alcrapmunia gets the Vice Captaincy??? Thats an injustice
Kolo has worn the shirt and played his arse off for us, yet Almunia hasnt proved anything other than he is rubbish and has a big mouth!
wow carson managed to save something!!
2 peroni’s for me and paulinho please barman
C’mon West Brom!!!
Simpson is doing good, cmon score for Arsenal!!
Bednar on, West Brom playing better, Simpson improves.. Come on Homer Jay..
Rob,
Totally agree that Almunia shouldn’t have the honour of being Arsenal captain.
I’m just perplexed at how Toure can a week after wanting to leave.
I love Toure but I’m confused!
Still 2-1?
Wrighty7,
Its simple, the guy has been shafted by the club in some ways, i.e he has a little dip in form and he struggles to get into a backline that concedes like a motherfucker, has a big mouth ex-captain who bad mouths the club, and a player like song & bendtner start over him?? Thats what im perplexed about!
So yeh i feel he had every rite to hold the club to ransom! Dont you?
yep still 2-1.
looks like there could be a goal at either end.
Is it on record that Toure wanted to leave?
What formation are the Baggies playing … and where have they put Simpson?
Yep, he did definately
wenger admitted it
or is that a stupid question? (holiday)
Hey Trindle which sister island?
That’s an unusually optimistic post. T
He definetly handed in a transfer request according to Wenger, for whatever reason. He hasn’t said anything.
Simpson up front playing off Bednar
Rob – AW also said he has no money to spend lol
well we know he is a lying cunt, but i think it has truth.
or was it £70 million it changes every day!
Rob,
I don’t think he has been shafted really mate.
He has been off form for over a year and if truth be told, Gallas and Djourou deserve their places in the side.
They have looked very solid but they aren’t helped by not having protection from the midfield.
im back,
rico, if your there sorry, i just nipped out,
hey raif, wrighty and all the other grovers
simpson aint doing to bad is he
Rob,
I forgot to mention that yes, Gallas does have a big mouth, but didn’t he speak the truth???
He has said exactly what we Gooners have been saying for ages and was mullered for it!!! I thought that was wrong.
Hey there Jonjon!
I like simpson, he’s got good technical ability..
team news anyone?
Is anyone watching the villa match. I’m only reading a text on the net, It comes across as Morrison scores then get’s taken out. They are becoming dirty cunts. Last season Carew took Hleb out.
U think?
How can u say that Gallas deseves his spot after the blatant slander he dished out against the team? In all honestly its not there fault that AW is such a stubborn arrogant wank, that wont re-inforce a weakend squad of youth players…..But i agree Djourou deserves his spot…..I reakon that Kolo just wanted some loyalty shown for the stirling performances and shit he showed during the years, and quite frankly if i was sitting by watching Song & Bendtner start over me(thus the poor results)
, id hand in a Transfer request as well. i also reakon he has a little more ambition than what we think, not that Man City are the club 4 it, but at least they are trying to show there intent by buying quality unlike us….
cheers for the links evo!
wrighty7,
I agree but its the way he went about it…
gm
he just pulled something
Villa sucks, wba deserves a goal
* 01 Almunia
* 03 Sagna
* 05 Toure
* 20 Djourou
* 22 Clichy
* 27 Eboue
* 02 Diaby
* 15 Denilson
* 08 Nasri
* 25 Adebayor
* 11 Van Persie
Substitutes
* 21 Fabianski,
* 12 Vela,
* 16 Ramsey,
* 19 Wilshere,
* 26 Bendtner,
* 28 Bischoff,
* 40 Gibbs
Rob,
I think Gallas deserves his spot because like it or not he is our best defender.
I’ve always felt he has had been given a raw deal by Gooners. Patrick Vieira used to say things like this every summer and was never even questioned.
I think Gallas has never been taken in by Gooners as one of our own.
Kolo is different, we love him but we shouldn’t be tainted by that. Arsenal are a better team with Gallas and Djourou at the back.
Choy,
U forgot Song lol
simpsons going to score the equalizer for west brom.
Fair enough mate,
I think its a matter of opinion, and if thats what u think then im big enough to deal with that.
Dam, Simpson is going to do WBA a hell of a lot of good for their season, if someone should score, its him!
i will concede that at the start of the season arsenals defence was looking very freal but with induction dj and gallas partnership they are looking alot more solid but they have had less protection but they have looked more solid but they are still condeding goals a bit they cant hold on to lead
where did you get that from Choy?
a secret line to Arsene?
Rob,
I really hope that Kolo takes this chance and finds his former form again. I really do mate.
It would be brilliant to see.
I just want him to come out and explain his reasons for wanting to leave.
If it was for an argument with Gallas i’d very disappointed.
I think it maybe down to lack of playing time BUT I also suspect someone at Man City had a quiet word in his ear about how much he could earn there.
Leon,
My issue wasnt with who the defensive pairing was, just the fact i think Kolo has payed his do’s in order to get the captaincy
kolo is Probably sick of looking at Songs face
Rob,
Me too mate.
I think you have a valid opinion mate even if we differ.
to easy,
although it would be interesting to know why!
Suck shit Bubba Gump!!
Re; toure being captain. I do concur that e is the right choice in the current situation but long term i dont think he is captain material. He is a follower not a leader and being the longest serving memner doesnt mean he would be a good leader.
Oh and Villa are still the luckiest cunts around.
Fucking Hell, No Song
Not even on the bench!!!!!
Has AW dropped the love child?
But he still picked a shit midfield tho.
patt
pure joy!!
still..my prediction: we loose 0-1 and v.persie and djourou gets injured
We’ve got a good bench though. Hope he uses them before the 80th minute
whats the midfield line up?
we win 4nil rvp or ade hatrick
2-0 RVP brace – lets get ready toooooooo rrruuuuuuuuuuu mmmmm bbbbbblllee!!
I was just gonna post a comment about how I bet there’d be some twat slating Simpson coz he didnt tear it up today and lo and behold…. Paulinho wins the prize!
Well done fella!
BTW; That aint to say Paulinho’s a twat!
we’ll smash bolton
were due a performance sooner or later, bolton are in for it.
Stu;
Cannot believe the effin luck of Villa!
nice recovery angry, although you could be in for a heated debate when paulinho sees it
simpson did well though, he looks bright, i hope we bring him back at the end of the season, hes different to our other strikers, diferent being hes better than kinky boots
It’s alright Angry. The sooner I realise I’m a twat the sooner I’ll stop putting unrealistic expectations on the likes of Simpson and the world will be a better place. That might not amount much round these parts, but at least I will be able to look myself in the mirror and say “yes… yes we can”.
Any1 got a good link to the game?
BTW, Wenger is so predictable with the line up. He does the same old shit every time!
I predict boos all round at half time and the commentators to say ..”Arsenal haven’t been their usual fluid self today” for the fifthteenth time this season.
Cue Ade to score after five minutes
Simpson may be able to play in the premiership but he won’t be in a top 6 club
Linky, working well for once…
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sat10.1/Arsenal_Bolton.html
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=28120&part=sports
The true visions sopcast link is working for me, Rob.
Paulinho;
I only caught a bit of the Villa game, apparently Jay started well and faded. Just feel that he might come good and he’s at a club where he can get games. Got no idea if he will make it, but Im with JonJon (not in THAT way!) I think he’s a different type of forward and has something to offer, hopefully at the ASrsenal!
Then again, Im always hopeful that players will make it. IU remember telling my manc United mates how Bentley was gonna be a top man for us!
Rob,
Try this mate.
http://www.fcfootballblog.com/2009/01/10/arsenal-vs-bolton-wanderers-live/
c’mon V.Persie show us some magic
sop://202.184.52.228:3912/1726
sagna’s crosses ne1?????? lol
Jast had the sound of emirates blaring in my salon. Well embarrassing everyone’s looking at me
noooooo, its stopped broadcasting
hair salon?
mine’s gone too. where are the puppets?
Yea it’s a hair salon and we play our music from the reception computer (which I was watching the feed on)
this is fucked
lol
rvp should have slotted that one earlier
Someone help guys, Pedro’s there, I’m not and I tried all those links to no avail!!!
try the one i posted geoff, its working a treat
michael owen just slotted for the geordies
doesnt work evo
my sopcast one still working, geoff. Must be too much traffic for you to get on.
Hey Geoff at least your not stuck in a building site office (cold) and the powers that be have stopped your computer from allowing you to do anything that is remotely fun ie no live feed nothing with the word “poker” in it and “game” as well and as for “sex” forget about it!! they’ve even put the kaybosch on redtube!!!
working a treat lads – did i need to say you should be cutting and pasting it into sopcast? you cant browse it in IE…
fuck davis is a cunt, i hope he gets red today
Fucking Davis, the player that commits the most fouls in a season + the player that gets the most yellow cards against Arsenal, what a wank!
I’ve got tvu and it’s not on.
http://www.justin.tv/widgets/jtv_player.rd1a44c63b44a7b3629922184fe76023535b72981.swf?channel=streamz5
This is working at the moment geoff
good quality as well
eboue, get out on the wing you cunt!
Adebayor, get it the box you cunt! And fucking stay there!
Ref give him a yellow already!!
http://iptv.zgzcw.com/iptv.html
its in chinese lol
Davies has 3 fouls already but still no card
4 now, gonna keep counting..
cant believe fulhams pitch is frozen and we are playing in pristine comfort
lol
diaby up to his usual antics
none of these links are working
Bolton waisting time!!
Justintv, but I can’t see the score & its not in english. Anyone got a better link?
sopcast mate, get on that
Bolton waisting time!
http://cdn1.ustream.tv/swf/4/viewer.79.swf?cid=417484
ha ha on the head son!
kolos hair is looking better
ehh, we just aren’t being penetrative enough, we need some more invention in there. Get the kid Wilshere on!
sopcast is fine
It looks cold there.
5th
sopcast?
sop://202.184.52.228:3912/1726
open sopcast and paste the link in the adress bar
i’m watching on telly but this works
Diaby having a shocker.
nope that link isnt working either
Collective intelligence of our team is really low tonight…
Diaby has a dog’s brain
PUT NASRI IN THE MIDDLE AND BRING VELA ON YOU STUPID CUNT
boring game
kenny, have you got sopcast installed?
What a surprise! Commentator talking about Arsenal usually playing great football in the past but overplaying, but now no great football to speak of. Hilarious shit. You can write the script these days.
crowd getting impatient with the bollocks passing
A bit of a sterile match, Diaby keeps giving the ball away and Nasri hasnt really gotten into the match, i think he should elimenate more players since he’s got the technique to do it. Second half should be good!!
Denilsons doing good though..
is diaby playing for the other team, and does he know how to pass forward, as well as back and square?
as mentioned earlier, you cant browse the sopcast links in IE (or firefox or whatever browser you are using).
you need to cut and paste it into sopcast (similar to TVU player)
sop://202.184.52.228:3912/1726
where the hell is eboue supposed to be playing? he thinks he is DB10!
Was that booing at half time??
Another piss weak half
bloody hell either the ground is only half full or most are down standing next to a heater next to the food stalls
OH MY GOD
Make changes Arsene
for the love of god bring someone on that will take on players…like vela
So do people still think we need a defensive midfielder ahead of a creative one? lol.
Nasri is playing like Hleb in disguise. He just jinks and jinks without stretching the defence. Hleb even managed more to stretch teams and his acceleration made us more crisp on the counter attack
Is Ade actually playing …. I’m just reading the live printer and he hasn’t been mentioned all first half …is he there??
rasdef demilson hasnt had much to do, but i guess that mans hes doing a good def mid job if hes having a quiet match
Awful Awful Awful
Loads of Possesion but no Punch. I would take a 1-0 right now.
And Wenger thinks this squad has enough Quality!!!!!
I think the boos at half time told him otherwise….And the empty seats.
we have creative ones paulinho, they just wont pull their finger outa their arse and have shit for brains.. Nasri should be in the centre hes the best we’ve got atm.
Paulinho, on that half we need a Keeper, a Creative Midfielder, A Defensive Midfielder, two wingers and two strikers.
I would get Diaby off as he has been pants, has taken over from Song for giving the ball away, move Nasri central and bring Vela on.
so bolton have just set up a wall, & we are just tapping it about from left to right to left to right to left……..
just no pace or tempo, i dont think anyone has beat a player one on one, no width either
I think I’ll just settle for justin tv, unless with sopcast The Arsenal actually play football as we know it
Yeh the booing is desrved, they are playing like shit and he thinks everything is ok, the empty seats and the booing says otherwise u dumb cunt AW
we’re being too slow in attack which is letting them set up a wall in front of their box…stop all the friggin square balls and pass backs and take on their players ffs
Arteta Scored again!!!!!!!!
All of this is playing into Zenits hands, our desperation must be so obvious to them, even if we are playing hardball..
Bolton are sitting so deep get crosses into the box and start setting up shots from outside the area. It takes arsenal 85 mins to discover how to break such a set up.
Well we had plenty of possession, Bolton just sitting back hardly threatening us, and we had no one with the balls to make things happen, accelerate the game, pull players out of position.
Denilson is not a creative player, passing sideways five yards everytime is not creative. The other creative players we have are just shit, apart from Nasri.
It’s about having top class creative players who aren’t afraid making things happen.
I said the other day we can’t play 4-4-2 with this team. We need Nasri playing centrally behind RVP. Adebayor is complete shite.
And with Everton winning, we really need the points.
I knocked out my tkt cos my team had a cup game today and I wanted to play. The game got called off, I have manflu or ebola and that was so lame it was unbelieveable!
Get Nasri in the middle.
Can someone wake me up at the 70 mins mark when Wenger makes changes.
shit, that Arteta goal was good
what are the odds wenger doesnt make a change until the 77th minute.. and it will probably bringing on someone at the back
we don’t need 4 at the back when Bolton refuse to attack
so for starters we should take Sagna off and Vela on and tell Eboue to STAY wide right and bomb up and down
its hardly gonna happen thru the middle for us. Get the crosses in. A proper box striker like eduardo wld have disposed at least one of those chances VP had. Ade shold learn he is a striker and far from a play maker…. play around the 18yard u dull striker. I say it again arsene is a crap tactician
This is a joke! Fucking i have faith in the squad?>> pffftttt yeh it shows when the 5yard passing build up play results in us geting fuck load of posseion but no shots on target
Arshavin please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dreadful dreadful dreadful. Get JW on. Get Vela on.
No idea’s no-one has the nuts to take a long shot.
Just crap performance , and Bolton’s tactics are a disgrace
Stop fretting, we’re really going to bring it on now!~!!
arshavin would never get the ball in the team coz they dont play it forward. He’d have to drop back to our half each time to start an attack and hope to go he doesnt pass it to welll.. pretty much our whole midfield lol
fellaini scored again too
ffs, square ball, square ball, sigh………………….square ball
Why are Bolton’s tactic a disgrace Raddy??? If we want to win shit we have to learn to play against teams like this. They are here for points not to entertain. We have to respect teams like this and really work out how to play them.
We don’t have anyone direct/creative enough. We’re the slowest of the top 4. Arshavin cannot arrive fast enough. I just hope he’s allowed to play his game.
Bet my life United would have gotten a penalty at OT for something like that(handball).
And this is why AW is after an attacking player, and not a CDM!
Better start to this half.
We have to up the pace and move the ball faster. Bolton are happy to play this way
By the way. Another shit ref who allows our players to get a kicking
Borrrinnnnngg
put rambo, wilshere and vela on, ffs.
we need creativity.
Franchise.
Because they are kicking us all over the pitch. Every time a player gets some space he is pushed in the back, or kicked to the ground. That is not how to play football IMO.
And you are right. We have to work around their defensive tactics
get someone off the bench and replace diaby – he is pissing me off
toure is finished. zilch confidence, zero composure
why does he take so long to make changes.. we dont look like gettin a chance let alone a goal
Nasri shifted to the center!!
RAddy we are also fouling them. No?????
this game is going to be won by a header only. or a draw
when will we realised crosses dont wrk when bolton have 10 men in area and we have 2
NASRI IN THE MIDDLE I LOVE IT
It isn’t a tactic though Franchise.
Time to get Diaby off, he is doing SFA. Bring on Vela
OMFG Diaby is ruining everytime we go forward
Nasri in the middle wont change shit. we need to be sharper in the final 3rd. quicker moves, crosses, pull backs
First decent chance of the game and it falls to the clown Adebayor….
Song isn’t playing but Diaby has been looking way worse so far… Vela comes in, thank god
Good call on the sub!!
thank fuck a shot on goal
Move Nasri to center…create first shot on target 2 mins later
Keep it up
that is what we should have been doing. Ade got a shot off. a weak one though
wenger must be reading this site at the game on his blackbrry to make a sub like that
great ade
Bolton are happy for us to have the ball cos we don’t do anything with it!
Bendtner wide right and Vela left FFS now!
ffs learn to shoot first time ade
Did AW read my post???
WHAT DID I SAY…
clown alright.
come on kanu put a header in
now all we want is jw or rambo on for eboue before the 80th min
1 sec late with that shot
We bang on the door now
In the first half we got nowhere near
Wenger MIGHT have planned this…what do you all think?
Give him some credit?
Carlos should have started the game… same old story isn’t it?
If Ade could hit a ball with his left foot, he would have scored. Shame it wasn’t RvP who got that chance.
Sagna is a freak. cant cross with his right what makes him think he can with his left foot
FUCK
Quicker and crisper moves around the 18 yard that is how u break teams shaped like this
Arsenal are FLOWING since Nasri shifted in…it is night and day
Now just put it in
Exciting
Van should have just put us 1 up. He hit the bar. These are the sort of games we should be winning by 3 or 4. Vela on for Diaby. Come on!! Fix up!!!
Oh no why!!!!!!!!????? Bendtner is garbage
I don’t like Eboue, but he is more useful to us in this game than Sagna
bad sub in that way, Bendtner on is a right 1
intertoto cup for us next season if we dont win this game
WTF!
Evo
We’ll be worrying about Everton if we can’t win this. Intertoto might be out of reach unless we win the fair play award.
exactly swedish we should have taken off sagna instead
Oh Come on you Gunners.
Just one will do.
Please Pretty please ….
Please don’t draw again gunners…
fucking shitttttttttt
Bendtner comes good
typical Bentner, pulled some Bentners.. but its ok!!!
NikB!!
Thank god for that.
Every game we do this. Here’s a suggestion, play nasri in the middle and vela from the start and it won’t come to this.
He never learns
goal
we need a signing IMMEDIATLEY
THANK GOD!
what a balll….
I like the occasional taunting of Bendtner…it might serve to wake him up
AND IT DOES
He works harder when we make him!
GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
at fucking last.
your prayer was answered BR
Get in there Nik. You Danish beauty
wooooooo!!!!
OMG!!!!!!!
THIS TEAM
1-0 to the gunners
Lady luck seems to be with us!!
Pink boots has come good today…!
1-0 TO THE ARSENAL
1-0 TO THE ARSENAL
1-0 TO THE ARSENALLLLLLLLLLL
we deserve it today rasdef
Is it just me or does ade not care if anyone but him scores.
Attendance 60,000+ hummm
yea Gambon I noticed that 2 Ad-Ego-baeor
pass the ball u
wo!
about fucking time
keep the faith – thats the lesson ive learnt today!
GEEZ FUCK!!!!
We are outnumbered in the box AGAIN in the 92′ minute
FFS LEARN U TWITS
That said
YEEAAY we won
we WON YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
evo that is why u were watching? cos u wld never give up on arsenal
Bullshit attendance
let our faith be rewarded by arshavin. lol
correct analysis mate. bloody painful thou
got out of jail,rvp is the only player out there one will remember in a few years time.
how much is adebayor worth,he justs gets worse consistently with every game.
mr.wenger if you think this team is 2% off being great, au revoir.
at least we got the 3 points,not much to add
let out faith be rewarded by beers on sunday. yippee
RVP is the king!
clean sheet after like a decade. im so happy with the clean sheet
BENDTNER IS A LEGEND> Didnt i tell ye!!!
Phew,
yeah very disapointed about Ade, you would expect him to be central against bolton, since he’s the one who can bring some real hight, but he was nowhere!
how much does that cunt ade barn door get paid?when ever they rest him he plays shit the next game he needs to consistently play
1st clean sheet of the year.
let our faith be rewarded with a stoke win in the late game and a bruising encounter in the scum vs scum tomorrow with shiteloads of red cards and big injuries!
We got a lot of luck on Davies chance. But overall, we were the MUCH better team, although we didn’t create as much as I’d like.
Stu-lol!!!!!!!!!!! i was waiting for you to say that!!!
stu any1 cld have tapped in that goal. bendtner saved us but b4 the goal he was ready and ripe for another bollocking. still not good enough
all the possession, no creative edge, not enough chances created, still 3points in the bag and a clean sheet
a creative core is missing from the team
signing arshavin and playing nasri in the centre from the start would be enough i feel to see us into 4th spot this year
then we can sort out this team properly in the summer
Samir Nasri, man of the match?
Vela and Bendtner HAVE to start the next few games. Regardless of form Ade should have scored that every time.
We bloody need some extra bodies after that today. We’ve gotta start with Nasri in the middle he’s very Fabregas like. Vela done well when he came on and Van Persie was the real difference. I fuckin hate Davies and McCann they do nothing but kick players. Pricks
aston villa got lucky yet again
We’ve stayed in touch with villa, which is good. We were very much a blunt object til the changes were made. (like we have been for most parts of the season). We’re really not a joy to watch anymore. Hopefully arshavin can change that. Adebayor looks woeful at the moment, hopefully it is temporary. I’m worried that he might turn out like alot of the african strikers we’ve had in this country. One great season then averageness for the rest of their careers.
Fair play to Bendtner. All the fans who almost did an Eboue with him can fuck off!
carson what a cunt that wanker let that goal in on purpose
nasris been my man of the match for the past few games
fuck that he was shit when he came on he got away with it scoring the goal
Ah shup! Ye are all just bendtner haters.
Maybe RVP? As man of the match?
agreed evo!!
if we played like we did in the 2nd half Ade might have scored today. i hate when we pass the ball endlessly with no purpose. 99% of the time the only thing it achieves is getting players out of position. crisper, quicker moves, send in crosses pullbacks etc.
another solid performance from the 80 k man !
RVP was unlucky and did well despite his anonymous partner !
3 points keeps us in touch …
Has nik B saved his Arsenal career ?
has almunia !?
they allowed us to dominate possession and put 10 men behind the ball ,it almost paid off .
pretty boring stuff all in all ! but 3 points .. thanks to olde pink boots .
thats because he’s shit
My MOTM is between RvP and Nasri, not sure yet…
How satisfying was that, i’m learning to love football all over again, Megson must have spent Bolton’s training the last week playing in one half of the pitch and got Davies to Sharpen his elbows.
He must’ve been pleased at half time, told em that they had us and a point sent them out for much of the same, must’ve been laughing at Bendtner, and just when he’s about to start thinking about how much difference a point could make to their survival chances we take all 3..
Good win..
ade didn’t one header,spent most of the match and cant shoot straight from 5 yards,i thought nic was bad,but ade takes the cake.pity we didn’t sell him in the summer,he offers nothing,oh i forget he scored a few and also a few assists.he should be on 8 not 80k a week.
Good finish, but he messed up our 2 previous attacks with horrible passes. Doesn’t deserve a start, bendtner.
Vela does
how good was vela when he came on, i love him!
sorry meant win and stayed out on the wing most of the match
another win but when are we going to hit some proper form we should be smacking this lot 3-0 4-0 at least
Good call JonJon….me too about Nasri as MOTM for last 2 games
the best thing was we kicked them more than they kicked us too, fucking loved it
Franchise
ade will never score !
he is too far from goal trying to meet the ball !
hes well out of his scoring range (6 yards or less )
and cant beat a man !
if he’s not camping you can forget a goal from him @!
it was RVP who as ever looks most likely to hit the target !
shame he only got the uprights .
next 3 games are make or break if we continue to play like cunts we are not making the top 4
i agree pat. as for the 80k man he did ok IMO. he is gonna be one of the first on each team list and i agree with wenger on that one
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Former top referee Graham Poll has revealed he is in complete agreement with Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez, after the Reds’ boss hit out at Sir Alex Ferguson.
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Former Premier League referee Graham Poll has handed Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez his backing, following the Spaniard’s astonishing outburst against Sir Alex Ferguson yesterday.
Benitez launched a scathing attack on the Manchester United manager, claiming that Ferguson is able to criticise and intimidate referees without punishment.
Former referee Poll has admitted that he agrees whole-heartedly with Benitez’s comments and also revealed he expects most referees would also back the Liverpool boss.
According to the Daily Mail, Poll said: “Rafa Benitez has articulated what referees have been thinking for years – that Sir Alex Ferguson can say what he wants about them and the FA will allow him to get away with it.”
Although Ferguson has recently served a touchline ban, imposed by the FA, Poll insisted this was not for comments made and claimed that the Scot receives preferential treatment by English football’s governing body.
“The authorities could point to Ferguson’s two-match ban imposed earlier this season as proof that he is not out of reach of their disciplinary department,” explained Poll, “But that was for marching onto the field after the 4-3 win over Hull and for comments made directly to the referee, Mike Dean, who, in reporting the misconduct, forced the FA’s hand.”
Incredible how as soon as we go one up we give away an unbelievable chance to Davies. This team are incredibly thick and they never seem to learn when they go a goal up. They never seem to anticipate the other team upping the tempo and the need to raise it with them to keep the status quo.
That wa so frustrating to watch. Any time we broke forward someome turned and played the ball backwards, usually to Clichy, and we had to start all over again. Just fucking shoot!!!
yeah im with you boys, NASRI FOR PRESIDENT!
wenger needs to tell over paid cunt to stay in the box
central mid is nasris position, he has to play there, he controls the game more in the middle and he sees more of the ball, out of all our midfielders at the minute hes the one who looks most penetrative, we need to build the midfield around him while rosicky and cesc is out.
vela needs to start watching messi a bit more and take tips on how to dribble with the ball
he needs to get a bit more strength about him
1 DM behind Vela Nasri and …….Wilshere?
If we keep winning without playing well we will be flying when we have eduardo, walcott and cesc back.
Wasn’t Carson at Villa last season? Thats 6 games with luck, in a row.
West Brom had a very good shout for a penalty as well when it was 2-1
i wasnt that frustrated to be honest stu
we totally controlled the game and never looked in danger of conceeding on the break
our possession side of our game game back 2day
we just needed abit more creativity, which came when nasri was moved into the middle,
not the best display of creative play ever, but i had every confidence we would score at some point,
im quite happy with that, and the clean sheet, and the fact we kicked them all over the place
yeah that cunt carson fucked us over
in the first half we had no positional discipline. especiall the strikers. Ade in particular. the balance in the middle was probably the main reason for this. Denilson and Diaby were not clicking together. I think the short term solution is to play either of them with nasri in a diamond midfield with Vela and ebloe on the wings. i would start the same front 2. Vela is gonna twice the player bendtner would be. just my personal opinion
Carson is a cunt. He keeps making vital mistakes and costs WBA pioints when they have Dean Kiely on the bench.
Speaking of WBA when they go down i wouldnt mind if we bought someone off them.
BBK
i agree , as must as i hate ade in our team , i agree the only way he gets goals is to pitch a tent .
going out of the 16 yard box to collect the long ball pretty much neutralizes his game !
he’s a 1 trick pony .. sooner he – song and eboue fuck off the better AFC will be !!!
the only way he’s affective is when he plays upfront on his own last year was perfect for him
he can’t play with van persie it dont work
jon jon
its almost midnight here!… when nik scored the goal !
you try and tell me at this time of night watching that crap for 90 minutes
is almost the same as taking 10 zanac’s and trying to say awake !!
From what I saw today we need to change tactics/formation.
We just lack cutting edge …..why do Manunited Liverpool and chelsea stuff these teams….because they are more direct and change up their approach.
I would say we should get Arshavin ASAP we need another spark Nasri….and Van persie cant do it alone. thats for sure.
……………………….Al……………………….
Sagna………Djurou……..Kolo………….Clichy
…………….Diaby…………Denilson………….
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Van Persie……………Ade…………….Arshavin
Employ 2 dms so it frees up the front four to all out attack.
With Vela and Bendter as impact subs in the left and right positions.
Eduardo when fit could be straight sub for Ade.
JJ, but you cant disagree that for all out possessional control of the game we were poor in their final 3rd. The majority of the game was played in front of their whole team. Just continously passing to no avail. Nothing pass after nothing pass.
I’d rather have less possession and likely to score on the break than having all of the ball never looking like scoring.
hitting the sack lads, catch you all later on!
cheers!
the only thing with vela playing wing is that you can tell hes a striker playing there, alot like we see with walcott, they dont have the creativity to play out wide, the main strength of there game is to run at goal, and when you have to run at goal from the side line with two lines of four stood infront of you its not that effective,
whenever vela got the ball he run inside and kept going into deadends,
creative players who can play wide are what we are missing, playing strikers there and central mids there just hampers there game.
we need rosicky back and we need to sign ashravin, and the problems are solved.
i think we should just write rosicky off completely.
Stu
“1 DM behind Vela Nasri and …….Wilshere?”
Arshavin
DM = Toulalan
That would really get me going
Ja_,
I agree with the formation, thats what i would rather us always play but neither of the 2 you chse there are DMs. We dont actually have any DMs at the club. We have no positional discipline.
who known what sort of player he will be if he ever comes back im not holding my breath with him changing around our fortunes
Stu – That’s not something we can alaways choose though, previous sides we’ve had used to play it around the midfield to drag players out of position, same with one of the strikers dropping deep, with Bolton and Portsmouth they both just sat back even when we invited them to come get the ball, there was no space to play it into.
It’s why I’m happy that we left it late, Megson must’ve been getting rady to say we deserved a point. When teams do that making them chase the ball causes them to tire later on, we’ve always done it.
Swedish, thats the stuff dreams are made of.
stu
it was to be expected that we werent gong to break them down, we have no creative players other than nasri, who for the majority of the game was stuck out wide with nobody to control the game in the middle.
the main point for me was that the possession side of our game returned, thats what we base our play on, we kept the ball, now we work on the creative side and we are back to the arsenal we saw last year,
i thought we’d hammer them to be honest, but im not going to start slagging off the team when we picked up the 3 points and kept a clean sheet.
we need to start scoring more then one goal to get the goal difference up
Keyser, all i want is a few shots from outside the box that cause the keeper to work. Even in the box we couldnt get a goal so why not try your luck from distance.
the next two games are hull and everton away maybe we can beat hull but im not banking on beating everton
on this current form
I definately think when Vela comes on playing on the Left and Nasri moves into the center we look far more effective. Vela plays more direct something we miss without Theo and Nasri in the center replaces some of the creativity we lose without cesc
Im probably the only person that didnt think we would hammer them. A lot were saying 2,3,4-0 and i thought it would be by a goal. How annoying that I was accurate.
BBK
we probably will beat hull, their novelty peroid has worn off and everyone is now thumping them,
as for everton, that will be no doubt tough, but we are starting to go on a mini run and we may have a new player by then,
lets take one game at a time,
4th spot is now what we are aiming for with this team, anything else is a bonus,
What annoys me also is that we have absolutely no width at the club. We dont have 1 player who is naturally a wide player. How lucky are we?
exactly stu,
you were right with your prediction, so dont be frustrated as much, we won and we won comfortabley, bolton were lucky we didnt hit them for 6.
the scoreline didnt reflect the real domination of play.
we did the job
JJ, forget that shitty attitude. We are going to win the treble. We are almost there.
To be fair they had ten players round the edge of the penalty area 90% of the game. It’s pretty hard to dribble or play your wasy through that.
I don’t see anybody play like that against our main rivals…even United.
Hull is in free fall, but u all know that the Aresan are the good guys, so we probably break their fall
we don’t show up and give them the 3 points
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QOS, thats mainly because all we have is plan A while our rivals have plan B, C etc. Everyone knows that we will just keep passing until the opposition tire. Our rivals can change their play without difficulty.
QoS they do play like that against our rivals. The difference is the way other teams deal with it. Mancs as the perfect example try to stretch such teams and they pass the ball crisper and with intent in the final 3rd of the pitch
I’mpleased by the result, it could have been 2-0 or 3-0 however we kept possession, dominated throughout and even though it wasn’t a top quality performance we were certainly the better team.
We made one or two defensive mistakes, especially straight after the goal but overall I’m comfortable with the Toure- Djourou partnership. A frustrating first half, and a stupid decision by the referee not to award us a penalty; but 3 points it is, Bendtner made the impact he was sent on to make and we got our just desserts, only a win for us would have been a fair result.
Sure the team have played and are capable of playing much better than we did today, but a win is a win, and if we can keep on getting results we can start talking about us building a solid foundation for the future, we need a much better second half of the season than the first, no more slip ups and if we don’t play as well as we can the least we need to do is win. We didn’t create as much as we normally do today, however the second half saw us piling the pressure on, which eventually led to the goal. At least the team kept on trying and were motivated.
Lets hope for a 0-0 result in the Man Utd-Chelsea game tomorrow and build on our winning recent form.
we play vela on the wing with ade on the other flank,you guys are right ade has to be static in the box.wenger plays wingers in the centre and strikers on the wing.
how much motification do they need.they knew villa had won,and the attitude for the first 70 minutes stunk, bar rvp and nasri. we are at least 3 quality players short,don’t kid ourselves we have a fight on just to stay in the top 4 davies had studs up twice and then a third foul without being booked,what a joke.
The other top teams also put people in the box
QoS the faster u pass in the final 3rd causes twice as much problems for the defending team cos they cant make stupid and intentional tackles like they would do elsewhere on the pitch.
Sweedish Gun – People in the box, That’s crazy talk.
Not too happy with the performance, but happy with the result, and to be honest whilst we continue to fuck around in the Transfer Market, I will take any wins regardless of performance.
Think Nasri has to start centrally though, it was like an on switch as soon as he went in there. We created zip until the 62min!!!!!
Diaby disspointed me in particular today, he gave away so many passes. I was hoping for him to have a big game but ho hum,
Ade did dissapoint but lets face it, the quality of the balls into the box was pretty pants, although he should have finished that guilt edge opportunity. He fell asleep and took to long.
Djourou did well again though, and actually so did Kolo.
Almunia’s communication with his back four was missing at times, but given that we wont be buying given or any other keeper, and that Almunia is un-droppable means that we will have to live with it and hope he refinds his early season form. It all went wrong when he got visions of grandeur for playing for England. Know you place Manuel and just get on with it…..Or play for Scotland or something.
So again it was not pretty but it is 3 much needed points, and hopefully it will be the kick up the arse Wenger needs to get his business done in the next few days. I really dont think we can afford to do our spending on Deadline day…
DB10
AT Arsenal it is for sure
also the ball is in play mostly in the central core of the pitch so teams mostly fortify this area. if we tried playing wide in the first half and sending in crosses we would have given bolton much more to think about
Franchise
I don’t think any team is worried if clichy and sagna started to pump in crosses
Yes…we won!
i agree sweden. they wld have to practice. that is why we need proper wingers
Because they have more space Franchise. Bolton don’t condense the space as much against Utd as they do against us.
Our players and especially our full backs desperately need to practice their delivery. Our full backs should be able to cross because both of them see so much of the ball with no end product.
Crossing is poor, but today their centre backs went unchallenged until Nik came on.
If you tell me that the key to beating Bolton is high balls into the box i’d laugh, we have to play to our strengths.
Delap’s arm must be fucked up….his throw ins are just average, but i guess it will be fit on may 24
spot on QOS
crossings not our strong point, we never have been a crossing side, we are a side that keeps the ball on the ground,
in a way having ade and bendtner in the team just fucks up our system cos it encourages high balls,
Saw about 5 minutes . How was it? at least we kept a clean sheet.
QOS
nothing wrong with crosses against Bolton, but it has to be hard LOW crosses and cutbacks
I hope stoke win and the chavs beat the mancs tomorrow.
QoS u r wrong to think that they give Utd more space. United are a more potent attacking side than Arsenal and they would give them more space to hurt them??? I watch a lot of games even the ones that dont concern Arsenal and I know how these teams shape up against the big sides especially when they are away from home.
If u send in good crosses against any team the defending players are always under more pressure cos they have their back to goal irrespective of how big the defenders are. Eduardo has scored a handful from crosses and he isnt the largest on the pitch. Also the crosses dont have to be in the air beautiful ball across the goal or a pull back pass from the byline would do. We scored a lot of goals like that in the invincibles era.
how was Kolo?
Kolo did well, better than Almunia has been doing anyways.
Good win Grovers…
Great Goal NIkk…
Cracking goal actually. Didnt Bendtner have more shots on target than Ade? He certainly worked the keeper more.
JonJon teams found us out since 2005. Arsenal were always accused of not having a plan B to counter such teams hence i believe the reason why Ade was signed.
Im not saying we cross only. Its applying that variance into our game. Stop trying the same thing over and over again without success. That is where Arsene trails good tacticians like Mourinho, Rafa, Lippi, Capello etc. He always believes things should be done in the same way irrespective of the opposition. He has slowly been adapting in this area.
United mix it up pretty well. so do LPool and Chelsea. Last season i saw an Arsenal side that varied their attacking play more than any previous Arsene side.
The simple key is giving the opposition several things to worry about rather than trying to wear them out with side to side passing
I respectfully disagree with you Franchise – Bolton play higher up the pitch against Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea than they do against us.
The way to beat to packed defenses is through movement and we didn’t really get that until vela came on.
Ade may have been signed as plan B, ie a big man in the box, but he is anything but that now. He wants to get involved with the build uo and annoyingly moved out to the wing leaving the box empty.
I wouldn’t have m,inded that Stu if he’d have pulled a centre back out with him and one of our midfield players had slid into the gap left but sadly that sort of movement wasn’t there from Denilson/Eboue/Diaby or much from Nasri (who usually had the ball looked to slide someone in.
bindippers aren’t doing too well
So u think Bolton respect Arsenal more than they do the other top 3 sides. thats funny. u think Megson wld take his bolton side to old trafford and say lets try and win this game? Not a chance. they go into these games hoping to steal a draw. its the oldest trick in the book. If u want to stop a pacy attacking side dont give them space to exploit behind the defence. that is why they had 10 men behind the ball sitting deep.
But defenders would only follow him like that if he was running into space on a counter attack, But he just drifts out there and the CB just leaves him go, safe in the knowledge that he wont harm anyone out there.
I’m off home catch you all later. 3 ponts and a clean sheet. That’s at least 2 positives. Saw a picture of nikki b celebrating the goal. he looks like he’s thinking “fuck youi lot I’m the daddy”. I hope he’s really motivated and proves a lot of us wrong.
gm, he will be proving me right tho. I think he was dorecting that towards those who ironically cheered his good passes and bemoaned his bad ones.
i totally agree with that franchise,
we should be able to mix up our game and i agree with the reason why Ade was signed
but what i was saying was is that ade was meant to be our plan B
but now it seems that hes become our plan A
weve lost that passing side of our game to accomodate ade and now it seems we cross and hit the high balls for the sake of it instead of doing it when we need to, our wide players get out wide and think fuck it ades there ill hit it high, and it goes in the crowd cos they cant cross, i wouldnt even say ade was the best header of the ball.
we have always been a side that keeps the ball on the ground, and the high balls are the last resort,
now the high ball to ade is like the 1st option and the passing side of our game has gone to pot.
subconciously, although ade brings another dimension, he fucks up our game, we dont have any decent crossers or any midfielders who like to provide support play to the striker, like lampard does with drogba
QoS another reason why we struggle against these sides is cos our counter attacking game is dead.
No i don’t think they are set up to win at Utd either, i just don’t think they defend as deep as they do against us.
United don’t try to pass there way through you as much as we do – they are more of a “counter attacking” team
Lol!
Just got back from the game: JonJon 5:19, on the money. Today was not for the Jonhny come lately supporter; today was for the hard core. I loved it. It’s not easy to beat Bolton at the best of times and for that reason I am very proud of the way the team I love never gave up and got those 3 precious points. That was a very powerful performance. We are now ready to steam-roll the rest of the season.
Jinx?
Again i’m not sure what good being a counter attacking side would have done us today though! We’d have had nothing to counter!
our game is about movement and passing and possession
ade supposed to stay up top to provide the team with that outlet in case we need to, but like stu says ade wonders about too much and that options gone instantly
ade would make a great suport striker for someone who was deadly in front of goal, like a villa or a torres, but rvp aint that man either, he too likes to come deep and get the ball,
half the time when we cross the ball our strikers arent even in there,
the high bal side of our game is flawed big time, but we still use it, and our play breaks down too often because of it.
JJ Ade showed last season that his strengths are not limited to the air. I think he like Nasri, VP are suffering cos we have not had a balanced central midfield pairing. When we switched Nasri to the middle u noticed that Ade didnt have to come into midfield to link up play. I think the reason he does it is cos VP is not as good doing that. VP does not exactly posses the talent Berg10 did neither does Ade but Ade has that physical strength meaning he can hold the ball under pressure
Ha! Fook me that was cold AND uninspiring………..again!!
Ladies & Gents, now this might as a bit of a shock, so make sure you’re sitting down, ready? The reason why we struggle against these sides, indeed the reason why we’re struggling this season is quite simple, if your team is full o’ shite players you’ll struggle!
AW & The Board have dumbed down this once great side to an El Cheapo shadow of it’s former self , so i cannot fathom why anyone can still be surprised at shite performances like today!
Oh, and 60,000 attendance my fucking arse, why do that, we make ourselves look like bigger wankers tha we alreadu are…..
cheers london
im happy with that display, bolton came with one thing in mind and it didnt work, we dominated and confidence after that game should be high.
We need to remember how to come out of the blocks quickly again. Score early and teams have to come out and play.
Cmon Stoke!!!! Score a bloody goal!!
Bolton had a few corners, free kicks where we could have hurt them from counter attacks. they also had the odd build up. United are also a possion team QoS the difference is that they make quick use of the ball. They are more incisive. Maybe its cos of the quality of their forward players i dont know but they try to create chances with minimal passes. We on the other hand would rather make 40 passes to create one chance.
Hello!
This match has just showed us that we really need Arshavin. Lots of possesion and not much end product. Why can’t Arsene understand that Almunia never has been and never will be a top class keeper. Djourou did well but we need someone to replace Kolo- Brede Handeland will do. As -for cdm-someone has mentioned Tulalan-great player but it won’t happen.We will never spend 20+ milion pounds.San but true.It’s always bhetter to have one great player tahn to have 3 average ones.Denilson+Diaby+Song=Velos, or Cana. Sad, but true.
ade needs to stay uptop though franchise and we need more creative players in the centre, ade needs to leave it to the players like nasri and cesc and hopefully rosicky,
otherwise its pointless having him in the team,
like you say ade proved last year that he can play, but he needs to remember he aint henry,
ade needs to stay uptop and provide that outlet and let the rest do the creating,
the more he comes back to get the ball, the more of our attacks break down, rvp does exactly the same thing, we end up with 6 players in the midfield and nobody in the box.
Gerrards getting pounded lol!!
Hahaha Gerrard. You fucking cunt! How did that taste?!!!!
I think that’s their flanks Franchise – Obviously Ronaldo is a maurading type player who can cover a lot of ground with the ball very quickly and so could Beckham in his prime…we on the other hand have Eboue and Nasri (who is a ball player rather than a marauder)
So I think you are right to say its driven by personnel.
I have got 2 questions guys. I have watched today’s match here in Polish television,but wasn’t Wenger booed and some point of the match.And was many seats at the stadium empty?
Dennis we must be skint as they turned the radiators of in club level today so i turned theone near me back up.Thought the crowd were good today apart from the jeering of Niki,glad he shoved it back down their throats good finish.
Jon mate,
Ade is NOT GOOD ENOUGH. His previous season was a fluke.
Eboue really got on my nerves today. He is supposed to be playing wide yet every time he got the ball he came inside, layed it ff and kept going infield only t end up standing in the middle of the pitch. He even wound up on the left wing once or twice.
I said this before: we will always struggle if we play denilson, song, eboue diaby
we can get away with playng one of thoose, but 2 will be a struggle and 3 is armageddon
they are just to slow, both in body and mind
Denilson and Diaby have def. potential but are not Arsenal material yet, and maybe they never will be (injury prone on top). Song and Eboue should be shown the door right now
paul
they turned the flood lights off too. lol
maciek
i dont remember any booing of wenger, only some jeering of bendtner, but it seemed to work cos the lad pulled it out of the bag.
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JJ I agree about Ade holding his line. Creativity is not really his strength but he would be compeeled at times to come link up play when the esp. when Diaby and Denilson are just passing from east to west. I think we need Arshavin Maciek i agree 100%. From what ive seen he would compliment Nasri cos he likes to get on the other side of defenders unlike Nasri who always ends up in front of them even after several jinks.
I would still play them both wide. They could be as dynamic as Hleb and Rosicky were last season. Popping up in all sorts of position without compromising the teams shape.
* compelled
Stu,it’s not his fault.It’s all down to Wenger.
All this counter attack talk etc, imo its got to do more with Wengers instuctions to the players to maintain ball posession etc.. Otherwise players would do what your talking about, if you look Nasri often called for a low cross after laying the ball off that never happened..
* especially when Diaby
Well paul my friend you should’ve joined us in the lower tier orange quadrant mate, it was positively tropical fella!!!!
“Lots of possesion and not much end product” – now where have I heard that before ?
Kolo’s first game back was OK, an easy game for him, but apart from the Davies chance, he looked fine. This is going to be the CH partnership for the next few games.
Nasri was outwide because he is the only one who can cross a ball. The moment he goes central, we are left with Clichy, whose crossing is dire. As is Vela’s.
Strangew that Vela doesn’t want to cut into the box more. He looks like a right sided player playing on the left. He needs more pitch time and a clearer role.
Diaby was poor today. I really hoped that he could be the answer, but now it is a certainty that when Song is fit, he will get the start.
Nik …. well, I am pleased for him. Two goals in two games. Hope his confidence improves, and he can take Ade’s place, because quite frankly, Ade was awful today. Created nothing, didn’t threaten on the ground or in the air, looked unfit.
But as has been said, we are a run, despite being in second gear
maciek
ades last season was a fluke, becuase he aint a no 1 goalscorer, he was forced to be that last year because off all our injuries,
he will never get all them goals again but he offers more to the team than goals, if he holds his line, and not try to be like henry and gets the correct support,ade is a menace for any defence, we just dont have the right personell at the minute.
Franchise-ok,You make some valid points-BUT if You will play Arshavin and Nasri wide,who will be in the centre?Diaby isn’t an option as well as Denilson.
I would continue giving Bendtner more and more minutes to get his confidence up. He shouldnt be getting more than cup games and the odd sub appearance because of his age. His run alone up front put him back to square one.
Chaps, AW may want us to play the fast pass ‘n’ move counter attacking style of football we’re ‘renowned’ for, but unfortunately our current crop of players are either not intelligent enough or simply not technically gifted enough or both to actually play like that, slow it right down and keep it simple….
Surely with Nasri, Arshavin and the front 2, as well as no proper DM we will have to play 2 of Diaby, Denilson and Song.
Big Raddy-lots of possession and not much end product, it’s not only our problem. Barca in the last 2 years had the same and now they are destroying teams.
i agree Maciek we need Alonso for next season. all our DM targets are not available this Jan. Denilson is ok. i think we can mix things up that is if we sign arshavin until the likes of cesc & walcott returns.
dennisdamenance
your 2 posts sum it up perfectly,we can’t expect intelligent play from a team of understudies bar 3 or 4.
agree with that franchise
alonso and ash would be the perfect additions to our midfield, we would get that fluidity back
We would be able to get a DM now if Wenger looked in the right countries ie the ones whos seasons have ended eg Russia, Ukraine etc
Should we sign Arshavin, how will we line up?
How does Theo get a game? If Arshavin plays on the right in place of EE,?
Jon-it wasn’t Ade’s first very bad game this season. I think it’s time for him to be dropped from the squad and benched.
I think we would be better off if we gave Nasri a free role. VP can play like a right wing/forward role. Vela a LW/forward role. Ade as the lone man then diaby and denilson in the middle
Arshavin Denilson Song Nasri
RvP Ade
Big R b4 Theo got injured he wasnt exactly cutting the mustard. He is more effective off the bench.
Stu-Arshavin plus Kolodin?That would be nice.
Maciek.
And where does Theo play ?
BR
Arshavin plays on the left. Think Rosicky.
Maciek, no! I dont rate Kolodin. Not sure why tho. He takes russias free kicks.
he is only 19 and i think he wld learn a lot from a player like arshavin.
Really Arshavin plays in the free role behind the CF. Like Hleb, Rosicky used to do before joining us. He is a roamer not a winger but his pace would see him put there.
OOps double entry……
Franchise, we are not seeing eye to eye today are we !
I can’t agree, Theo was developing really well. Sure, he had his poor games, but he is the future of Arsenal. Along with Cesc, he is the ‘man’. He has to have ptch time and a regular starting position. HOw else does he truly progress. He is our Ashley Young – as good as him and potentially better.
But perhaps you disagree
Big Raddy,
Rosicky is still injured and we do not know if he will ever back again. Lets say that Fab and Theo are able to play. That gives us plenty of options.I would play Nasri and Denilson in the middle Arshavin on the left and Theo on the right wing.We must have some depth in our squad.
Andriei Samir Proper DM Theo
Fab should be dropped, because he was poor this season.
if we had rosicky, arshavin, walcott and nasri to pick from i wld pick rosicky and arshavin as my 1st choice wide players.
maciek
if you read through what i said earlier mate i said having ade in the team fucks up our game
having him in the team only works if he stays uptop and we play a system like chelsea do and hoof it and provide plety of midfield support.
ades a plan B, not plan A
0-0 pool stoke
London, then where does Nasri play ?
Hey, if we sign Arshavin, it is a luxury problem …..
ade is still our most complete striker IMO. if its about chance missing VP missed a few today just like Ade and Ade worked hard in the 1st half.
nasri plays in the centre raddy
the season is long and hard
we already know that we are fooked as soon as we pick up an injury.
theyd all get enough games to keep them happy
its all about squad depthwith quality, not throwing kids in who might or might not make it, we need the players to come in who can do the same job as the players that are out.
Yes Stu+I finally can see it+Ade is……..crap.You are right,but do You still think that Bendy cant be an option for us and that we still do need another big,strong striker_
How lucky were Villa today. They are luckiest team I have ever seen.
Arshavin and Nasri can play in the middle, so if we get them both, if we have too many good players that’s not a problem, we can sell the duffers.
guys finger crossed it looks like pool are going to drop points
yeah 0-0, no more last minute goals from Liverpool….hopefully.
If Stoke get a point , The Spuds will go into the bottom 3 !!!
Top 4, my arse……..
If Kolo or Johan will be injured who would be able to play as a central defender?Song?
At the moment yes.
yes yes yes
0-0
Just got back in from sitting in -fuck knows what degrees watching a terrible game of football!! We were absolutely shit in the first half, slightly better in the 2nd, and a great ball from rvp gets us a goal we just about deserved.
Worries….
Diaby with Denilson does not work, the full backs wernt great today, Ade was absolutely shyte, Nasri should have started in the middle aand Vela should have started.
And we just dont seem to be able to play with any urgency!!!
——-Eduardo——-
Arshavin —-V.Persie
—Nasri—-Cesc—-
——DEF MID—-<—Essien,Macherano,M Diarra,Barry,Toulalan,Hargreaves,YaYa
Clic-Djou-Hang-Sagn
—–Flapiansky—–
My dreamteam
3 signings from world domination( if Fab=Buff)
Preach Odub
Why can’t Wenger get the players to play with urgency and show some heart from the start????
I have never experienced cold like at that game today!!! fuck me it was positively arctic conditions!!!
One only has to hear the sound of asymmetric polythmer balls on synthetic grass to start getting excited about bowling.
I will never forget my first ever bowl. I held it the wrong way round and it ended up in the car park.
Oh how I laughed when the bomb squad turned up to diffuse it!
change of subject as it was so boring and predictable yet again.
Swedish, apart from JD and Hangeland thats a pretty small team.
Fab
Sagna – JD – Hang – Clichy
Arshavin – Cesc – Toulalan – Rosicky
Bendtner – Eduardo
Subs : etc etc
Kelsey, never really got bowling.
Bindippers have dropped points. Hope that signals a slide for the twats
actually we are turning into a team of bench warmers.
good quesation swedish gun,every game we stumble out of the blocks,too much money not enough passion,too lethargic,no real urgency to win.just pass the wall diagonally for 80 minutes until the oppo tires.
I agree Jonjon, Ade would suit a team that plays direct football, we used to be far more direct in the past, the idea was not to pass it about as much, but to get it up field with as few passes as possible, maybe we need to go back to being more direct.
Stu
We don’t need a big team if we rip them 4 new A-holes in the first half
Stu,
snooker on grass.
Swedish, Arshavin would help solve the problem, him and Nasri, two offensive wingers, we would definitely have more shots on goal.
seriously when we play ade up front on his own he is always caught offside.you must agree he’s not half the player he was last year and for a big guy his control and heading and shooting is pretty poor.
And slow
i hate it when ade receives the ball and passes it backwards.. and he missed an absolute sitter
Today was the first home league game i’ve missed for 2 seasons and
i can’t say my life is poorer because of it.
Sounds like the balls off a brass monkey were in danger today too, Odub.
How close were we to conceding an equaliser immediately after we’d scored as well?
Still 2 points on the bindippers and the spuds in the bottom 3 (thanks Raddy), so it can’t be all bad.
He missed two against Portsmouth choy, and lots of others last season, but then again he has scored 11.
That sitter was ppor timing by Ade, he should have taken the shot, he hesitated, and the Bolton defender had a chance to stick his leg which he did, so good defending by Bolton.
That’s all the did alll game, I just watched Megsons interview and if I was in higs situation my gameplan would be exactly the same, he is short of players, he has players playing out of position, it was a bit like swimming through custard today.
And also when Ade misses a sitter and smiles about it afterwards. Twunt!
kelsey ade is not the same player cos the midfield is not the same midfield. He is obviously not the same force he was last season but i would give him the benefit of doubt cos the rest have also been crap and really he isnt that type of forward that can take control of a game personally. We have had like 10 different midfield partnerships, 6 different CB partnership, 6 different captains. We have not been stable at all.
finest.. ade does look unfit or is he just being lazy?
he used to run all over the pitch last season.. these days.. he just camps on one wing.. passes the ball backwards and walks back to the centre
I actually don’t agree that we played that badly, it was more a case of Bolton defending well and not trying to win the game, they would have been delighted to go home with a point today and it’s very difficult playing against a team who are not trying to win but just looking to stop you.
So Liverpool have dropped points, and either Chelsea or Man U, will drop at least 2 more.
The win today, means we are back in the title race.
Villa, are 1 point behind Chelsea !!!
I’m not sure Choy, but yes he isn’t performing as well, maybe it’s down to tactics, or the oppositions tactics, or poor service from midfield, I can’t put a finger on it.
Yeah i don’t think we played that badly finest. We did exactly what we needed to do, solid for 65-70 minutes, go more attacking, push forward more, and score the all important goal as they were tiring. With our injuries and lack of confidence we aren’t going to walk all over teams at the moment so have to play like that and with a solid line up until we get some momentum going. They didn’t have a chance until after we’d scored when we were nervous again.
rvp was fantastic, best player on the park by a mile. Diaby and ade were attrocious, worst two players on the pitch by a mile! Other than that everyone was ok imo, vela added some spark and direct running as sub again, and bendtner came up with a very good finish, that’l hopefully give him some confidence as he looked ridiculously nervous when he first came on.
What i really fancy about ade is the fact that he has scored like 60%-70% of his goals away from home? He is a nice to have. Also when i look at the other players we have he seems to be our most complete striker. I think if Eddie is fit then himself and Ade would be a better partnership. Whats the point selling him when a better replacement wld cost us in the region of 25-30mill? he is a nice to have IMO. Eddie and Vela might become better than him in the future. Presently Arsene plays 4-4-2 and if i were in his position my front 2 would be the same. Ade and VP
with regards to ade, it’s because he isn’t the top dog anymore imo. He was really good last season, because he was an unknown quantity to a certain extent, but also because he was the focal point of all our attacks, our number one striker by a mile, and everyone was playing to create for him. With the far superior vp back he’s no longer number one, and isn’t very good when he isn’t. As well as the fact he believes his own hype from last year and has been ridiculously arrogant ever since. He is one player who should NEVER drop deep to pick up the ball, because that side of his game is just attrocious, and he gets in the way and breaks up our own attacks
i agree A
we did ok we were just short of creativity, but we totally dominated them, and we got the win
i dont really like kinkyboots, but im hoping he takes confidence from being the matchwinner with a fantastic finish and he starts to become the player wenger tells us hes going to be.
on the other hand our midfield needs serious tweaking
Normally i wouldnt ever have it like this but i am warn=ming to the idea of Van Persie and Eduardo together. 2 lefties never play together but it might work for us given that Eduardo stays in and around the box, can score out of nothing and would allow Van Persie to drop deep as he likes to do.
But my first choice is form wasnt a factor would be Nik and Eduardo.
franchise vp is our best player by a mile at the moment, a class above anyone else, and the only reason we’re not much lower in the league! i’d have rvp with eduardo as a partnership if he gets back to fitness, or vela. With ade currently in absolutely shocking form i’d have bendtner partnering rvp before i start him again.
Our midfield could do with a total makeover. Nasri should be the only one getting starts.
Ars
Our midfield could do with a total makeover. Nasri should be the only one getting starts.
Rosicky Toulalan Cesc Arshavin. Sorted!
nah stu, rvp has to play!! he’s our only creative edge at the moment, we need him. It is difficult though, bendtner and vela, and bendtner and eduardo are probably the two best partnerships we have, but rvp has to play imo
fook is it true we only offered 10 mill for arshavin?
Ade at his worst this season still dont compare to bendtner shocking moments. Jesus the guy is attrocious. I thought Ade had a bad 1st touch until i saw Bendtner’s terrible. VP overplays it too much sometimes if we had drawn the game today he would have been slaughtered for overplaying.
RvP wouldnt be needed if we had a better midfield. He is only so vital now becausewe dont have any spark in the middle.
we are unbeaten in 7 in the league i think 4 wins 3 draws not bad but we could have done better against Villa and Boro. Even Pool didnt deserve a win. I swear this season is one of the strangest ever.
weve offered about 10-12mil for ash, choy
people are saying hes already agreed terms with us but the fact he’ll be avialable for free next jan, zenit need another offer quick to push the price up, we could be waitin until near the end of the window until we get him
Pool didnt deserve a draw sorry
ade at his worst this season is half the player bendtner has been at his worst. In fact, today ade was worse than bendtner has ever been in one game imo!
i disagree stu and franchise, rvp is one of the top strikers in europe, and although unconventional his ability to score or create a goal out of nothing is priceless, with a better midfield he’d score alot of goals too as well as offering the unexpected
we really are so miser!!! ffs defoe went for 12 mill
you can’t judge the team based on Bolton 10 men defense tatics. Awful miss by Ade though. We are unbeaten now for a while. lets do Hull next week to avenge the Emirates.
Fuck we scored first against all the sides we drew against in our last 7. Villa was even worse we scored twice unreplied.
yeah i agree about arshavin jonjon, i don’t think we’ll see him for a while because zenit will want to wait as long as possible try and tempt in other offers create an auction. We should hopefully be ok at hull, just do the same as last two games, and have arshavin in for the games against everton and west ham
I say it again A and many wld agree Van Persie overplays too often. In the first half apart from the shots he sent to the stands he was just overplaying. Several times he could have passed or released a shot but he didnt.
choy
but forking out any more for a player that can leave on a free in 12 months and could buy his contract out for 5mil now, would only be getting ripped off,
thats why nobody else has bid for him and nobody went for him in the summer they knew his contract situation,
zenit wont get 20mil off anyone for him, they only want it to recoup some of the 24mil they paid for dani
if we gave zenit anymore we would be getting bummed, when really under the circumstances we should be bumming them, which is what we are doing and why zenit are going public in a bid to push up his price buy getting barca to come in and create a bidding war.
he is a great player though and hopefully if he stays fit this season his goals might win us something i.e. VP
N’Zogbia….he would ad so much to our team
His quality and pretty good pace
Just throwing that out there….not like we are ever going to get him
yeah maybe at times franchise, but in the current side i think he knows a lot of the responsibility of making things happen is down to him, so he tries a bit too hard to make something out of nothing.
Nightman, take it back. N’Zogbia would be a horrible addition.
JJ.. barca don’t need him.. i’m sure arshavin doesn’t want to sit on the bench.
But i do agree with the contract situation, lets hope nobody puts in a better offer.
I am surprised Man City aren’t in for him!
nah nightman nzogbias just a left footed eboue,
i wouldnt want another average player in the team, we have enough,we need the real deal.
We need better quality players nightman. We would be better of playing Jack Wilshere wide than N’Zogbia.
we can buy who we want when we want. FOOTBALL MANAGER 09. what a fucking shambles.
exactly choy
barca dont need him, and he wont go to mancity, he wants to play CL
we are in the driving seat with this one as long as nobody else comes in
some ppl think weve already got him, judging by wengers cunning smile in the interveiw why no one else is coming in for him
hhhhh lambo. I got that for christmas but it wouldnt work on the laptop. What a cunt!
A
About ur comments earlier:
We HAVE TO play Song and Denilson in the middle now when cesc is injured
what a load of bullshit
They are the reason we play as badly as we do, to slow and no vision
nightman if he was available on a free i wouldn’t mind us adding him to the squad, he’d be a decent enough sub for clichy which is something we currently don’t have, and be a decent enough squad member, back up for the midfield, be an improvement on eboue or denilson left mid, but if we had to spend any money that could be spent on other players i’d say thanks but no thanks
A, a decent back up for Clichy you say? N’Zog is a winger. At best he is a makeshift wing back. I would sooner play Gibbs, Silvestre and Traore there than spend anything on him. I wouldnt even like him on a free.
i wouldnt take him on a free either, we dont need a player like that one bit.
just another waste of wages
get proper laptop stu. hhh, even on ps3 wed b 5th or 6th
swedish they have to play because we have to be as solid as we can be at the moment. Throwing in the likes of ramsey and wilshere we’d get absolutely slaughtered. They have something to offer at the moment, and should be absolute wonder players at the moment, but throwing them in at the deep end with the current atmosphere around the team and lack of confidence would hamper their development, kill their confidence, not to mention make us even more of a soft touch than we already are, we’d get slaughtered.
They have to play because there isn’t anyone else that could play, not because they’re wonder players, though denilson is very underrated. Whilst cesc is out I expect us to have Denilson and a new dm in for a while, until either our injuries are a little less sever or we build up some confidence and momentum, and create an atmosphere which the kids can come in and thrive in.
I have a proper laptop just not enough graphic space or some shit like that. Mine is on;y a 3 and i need 4. My friend has a PC and the same problem so its not the laptops fault.
Stu he’s played left back a fair bit for newcastle and although not been exceptional he’s been ok. Traore is on loan for the season, and gibbs is far from adequate defensively at the moment, we have literally noone who can play there as silvestre is a joke there! As i said though only if he was on a free, and very much only as a squad member, we desperately need more players and he’d be a decent enough player who we know can play in the prem. Just be another body utility player
A, if thats the case then surely playing 2 DMs would see us balanced enough to leave Eboue out of the team. Effectively 2 dms would mean we have 6 defensive players. Surely that is enough to deal with any counter attacks by opposition teams allowing for more creative players in attack like Wilshere and Ramsey. Also Ramsey isnt a soft touch. He ,ay be weaker than Eboue but vertainly handles himself better. Eboue, for all his “strength” has an awful lot of dramatic spills.
A, even so. N’Zogbia can stay away from us.
are we a team that walks in the shadows???? fucks sake we were cream . ramsey / wiltshire /vela / all well and good in strong gooner side . we need a spine in the side / gk cb dm cf. spine spine spine.
We easily have the worst spine in the top6.
We need a new, commanding, reliable keeper.
A big defensive leader who can organise the defence.
A disciplined DM who can read the game well and identify danger before it happens.
And finally a smart CF that can vary his game depending on the oppo defenders.
We dont really need a winger as long as Rosicky comes back fresh for next season and Arshavin as settled in.
Actually forget what i said about the CF. We need a smart forward that will always occupy the defenders but never be marked out of the game – good positioning.
No wonder noblot had 10 men behind the ball, they only had enough fit players to have 4 subs on the bench!
noblot
Stu there is no perfect forward. its normal to be very critical of yours cos u watch them for 90mins most of the time. Our judgement of other teams strikers or players in general is based on highlights. I think we have a good mix of strikers to address different situations. im actually satisfied with our forwards. everywhere else on the pitch we seem to be lacking a specific kind of player.
* mostly based i should have said
the only player i wld luv us to sign is david villa. the guy is the shit
FRANCHISE, lackin a specific player? yeh decent fucking player
Your fucking jokei==ing me!! I was planning toi watch the valencia Villareal match. I missed the first 13minutes and ts 2-0 already. Anyone else watching it?
*joking etc etc
im watching it stu villa goal was sublime
Both Villa?
baraja the 1st
A
we obviously don’t see the same thing when we watch games
Song and denilson doesn’t help us to be defensive, they just make us weaker
Ya just saw the replay. You would think they would have shown Villas goal too, but no!
I’m watching Zlatan
The best way to keep pressure off a weak defence is to keep hold of the ball high up the pitch. Denilson and Song just dont help us do that. In fact they do the opposite. It either one or the other, not both.
Zlatan? The worlds best player you mean? Who are the big Italian teams playing this weekend?
Let’s all laugh at Tottenham
Stu
He is Swedens best player at least
The special one just got 1 point from caglariari
He was really pissed on the line
best player my arse. henry14 . nuf said,
lambo, i was joking. Thats what Mourinho said a few weeks back.
Speaking of Inter Milan, if the 6+5 rule does come in thn they are absolutely fucked. All they have is Toldo, Materazzi and is Balotelli Italian? Other than that they have a team of all foreigners. Much like us but without the kids coming through.
Franchise, i can only assume that you watch a lot of football, specifically spanish. So whats your opinion of Timo Hildebrand, formerly of Valencia-currently of Hoffenheim. They released him in december and he was a free agent. IMO a younger and better option than Almunia. What do you think?
This is beautiful to watch. They are destroying Villareal with 4 players. Damn near perfect counter attacking play.
Stu,since You want us to buy another CF, but who would do a job?Can RVP and Villa work together-I don’t think so. Can Eddie and Villa-no they are both 1.75, clinical in fron of the goal and to similar.Benzema-not a chance-he is out of our reach.We must be realistic. I don’t like Ade,but RVP and healthy Eddie we are sorted here.
Macek, its not my job to find suitable players, Thats what the scouting system is for. Im sure that kind of CF is out there.
stu . 9.36.
i no you was but i love th14
As for Hildebrand-I would prefer Jaskelainen, or to give Fab2 a chance.And I’m not saying that because I’m from Poland.He IS MUCH better than Manuel.
No, Hildebrand is defo better than Jussi.
Again, i would also prefer Fabianski to Almunia but that doesnt look like ever happening as long as Manu is at the club so i feel the need for a new keeper. Simple!
I respect Your opinion Stu, But Timo was pants at Valencia.And is he good enough coming from his line?
Saying that I would spalsh 25 milion to buy Villa and re-sign Pires.I think that we have mssed out on him.Cesc,Nasri, Arshavin,Villa-WOW.And besides he is so called star player.
stu i disagree, fabianski is being introduced slowly, league cup keeper last year, fa cup keeper this year, he’ll be in the team by the end of the season, or taking over in the summer at the very latest. The fact that almunia is not going to be sub-captain over kolo or vp anymore makes me think that he’s far from certain as a first team regular, and another mistake or two fabianski will come straight into the side.
Everyone was pant at Velencia last season so thats hardly anything to go by. Also he holds a record for number of consecutive clean sheets or minutes without conceding in Germany so he cant be as bad as Almunia. A player who was constantly loaned from his club and whom was sub keeper when we bought off a second division club.
A, how happy that would make me if it came true. Almunia is a joke and getting the armband made me question Wengers sanity even more. I hope Fab takes over before the end of the season and is ready for next season. We need to start building for next season onslaught(sp).
If we are searching in Germany-Adler would be my choice.
I actually think that if we did not have Fabianski coming through then Wenger would be looking at a new keeper.
I honestly think Fab will start as number one next season. I just think Wenger is banking on Almunia’s experience for the rest of the Season.
at least I hope that is what is happening, otherwise we are fucked
Just dont get what happened to Almunia, he was great early season but as soon as he threw his hat into the ring for England he turned into a permanent David James on an off day.
Either him or Neuer from Germany would do me.
yeah i agree, him being captain made me worry because I was certain since lehmann left that almunia is only retained as a stop gap whilst fabianski comes through, but the captaincy thing made me wonder if wenger actually rated him. However now i’m certain he’ll be in sooner rather than later, probably before the end of the year seeing as almunia seems to be getting more and more dodgy
If we rate the 10 best keepers in the prem
where is Almunia?
And if that is true then I will go with Wengers call on the keeper.
I think if we bought someone like Given now, it would kill Fabianski.
Lets hope he and Arsenal have a great cup run and he becomes un-droppable.
Almunia hasnt been that good al season as far as im concerned. Maybe he is annoyed that he will never ever play for Spain and has just given up completely.
i agree pat. When lehmann was getting past his peak, fabianski was brought in to replace him, almunia was never anything more than a reliable understudy, but when lehmann left fabs wasn’t quite ready, so we just figured almunia would do for the time being. That’s how i see it anyways!
yeah exactly pat, we brought in fabianski because we rated him incredibly highly, but he just wasn’t ready to take over immediately from almunia, but if we brought in given or another top keeper it’d stifle fabianski’s development and he’d never break through, whereas it’ll be very easy when fabianski is ready to knock almunia off number one. Let’s hope by the end of the season fabs is established, goes on to be our own casillas, wilshere in as our own messi, vela, bendtner, ramsey, nasri all sorted, best team we’ve ever had, sorted!
Swedish, it depends on how the keepers are scored. Whether they are scored on concentration, quality of saves or number of saves made. Every keeper has a different thing to do.
Lower placed keepers make more saves but concede more goals (green, Given, Kirkland), higher placed keepers have less saves to make but still might concede due to lack on concentration (Almunia)
thts all well and good A but it will take all these players 5 years to get anywhere near being world class
by that time they might not be here cos theyd of been knicked by a team winning trophies and we’ll be stuck in the uefa cup,.
we need players in the side now to help bring these players through and keep them here
most young players join us cos they know they can get 1st team football.
but in 5years they’ll be able to get 1st team football anywhere, whats to say they’ll even be here,
theres only one thing that will keep them, and thats trophies.
we cant say the futures bright cos no one knows what the future holds,
the only way to ensure the future is to succeed in the present,otherwise the future could be worthless
Stu
agree…i tried to rate the keepers but found out that I don’t know enough about them
It was a hard one
Renan reminds me of a young Almunia. How unfortunate for him.
so the liverpool scum had a draw that even could have been a loss! good to see!
whilst i still want to win the league and results like that help us, we really need to produce a finish like the 05-06 season when we made it into 4th!
Swedish- Craig Gordon is apparently one of those type of keepers.
He is quality for Scotland and was quality at Hearts because he didnt face many shots in a game and his concentration was at a level where he was always alert to danger, getting him good reviews. But at Sunderland he is constsntly faced with shots and he cant keep them all out and so was not as impressive.
IMO signing Given, Green or Kirkland (all of whom are wanted at Arsenal by several fans) could work in the opposite manner and see them fail with a top club. Just my theory and why I would rather an international class keeper.
I know what you are saying there JonJon but I honestly do think Fabianski could be our Cech and that is why in this case I would not want someone like Given in that could ruin that for us, as for me Given is a good keeper but a journey man. Fabianski has the potential to be world class.
Almunia has unfortunately got worse as the season has gone on, and whilst I am not happy with his performances, I just hope he can refind some form to get us through the season.
He is only 31 though so it will be interesting to see if he will be willing to be a number 2 once Fab builds on his experience and takes the jersey
Number allocation for next season:
1 : Fabianski
2 : Sagna
3 : Clichy
4 : Cesc
5 : Hangeland
6 : Senderos(i dont think he will leave)
7 : Rosicky
8 : Toulalan
9 : Eduardo
10 : Arshavin
11: Nasri
14 : Theo
17 : RvP
etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc you get the drift. Maybe not that exactly but i hope there is better organisation to that as opposed to Diaby as no.2 and Sagna as no.3 and Cubt Gallas no.10
Oh and legend Edu.
i disagree massively jonjon, it won’t take anyone five years to become world class! Wilshere and ramsey will granted probably be a couple of years, and and it’ll probably take fabianski as a keeper a couple of years to be considered world class. vela and nasri could be world class as soon as they settle in, in under a year. I’m very very excited about the potential of the likes of ramsey, wilshere, vela, nasri, they could replicate cesc and be considered at that level in a year in vela and nasri’s case, 2 with wilshere and ramsey. Though fabianski is a bit of an unknown quantity, as it’s always more difficult to rate young keepers, so many seem to have massive potential then go to shit.
I think the thing with Keepers is also that you only play one and there are only a handful at the very top level and once you get one, it is rare they move clubs. The greats are already at the elite clubs in Europe so I think in this Case, Wenger has got it right to get him in young.
And I say young but Fabianski is 23 which is almost an OAP in the Arsenal Squad.
Lets face it, we are not about to bring in Casillas, Buffon or Cech are we? I am not convinced Given, Green ETC would make that much difference to us.
I personally would like to see Fabianski now, and hopefully the call will be made soon.
Tell you what is scary though…Petr Cech is only 26, and probably has ten years left at top level.
I like very much stu!!
and congrats Edu
stay healthy
Nah stu, in the summer we can look for a proper defender, we won’t need someone a level below like hangeland, we can go for someone top top class, i want sakho! (though not seen much of him very highly rated and seems available) Also disagree about toulalan, not the type of player we need, and not available at the moment, we’ll get someone more suitable and better this transfer window, just got no idea who!
Our squad could be incredibly strong the start of next season, even if the kids aren’t world class, they’ll be very good by then, on top of more experienced players in cesc, theo, eduardo back, and arshavin and someone else brought in! I think the midfield and forwards will be sorted by the end of this transfer window for a couple of years, so we’ll just have to be working on the defence in the summer.
yeah pat, lets hope fabianski is up to the same level cech is now in 3 years time, it’s very close to being time for him to be introduced!
PTG, imo Cech hasnt been at the same level since his head injury. He makes an awful lot of silly mistakes and just doesnt seem as confident. Maybe its just me but I’ve always thought as Cech as a bit over rated. He did have great positioning but his saves were never world class saves and he has always had a mean defence in front of him.
id love to see fabianski now.
but the thing is A we are relying on a bunch of lads who are just starting out in the game, without experience it doesnt matter how good you are you’ll never be the complete player.
which is our problem, i agree we have players who in a few years time will be tearing the league up, but whats to say they’ll be here mate.
we cant say we are going to be worldbeaters in 2011, cos in 2011 half these players coming through might be at barca, real, or milan
actually yeah, the same level he was pre-injury
A we say the same thing every year, the kids wil be a year older, we’ll be a year wiser, its our year,
its becoming boring
Stu
We do need a revamp on those Squad Numbers.
I imagine Arshavin will actually want the 10 shirt if he comes and I hope he gets it. i would never have given Gallas it in the first place. It is just wrong and was always an argument waiting to happen for when we bought a natural number 10.
Sagna is in 3 already, but definately should give Clichy Diabys no 2 shirt, and Djourou should get Senderos’s 6 Shirt.
Oh and I think we should retire Alexander Song’s no. 17 Shit er sorry I mean shirt, and put it down to drunken night and a bet about how crap a player can you get an Exceptional Talent Visa for. It is like putting the Cheeky Girls into the Music Hall of Fame
A, Sakho is only 18. As you say, we need quality now and he doesnt represent that at all. I dont know why you dont like Toulalan. Surely there arent much better at what he does.
I don’t think we are jonjon. Cesc is ready now, nasri is good enough he just needs to adapt to the english game, vp, eduardo, clichy, sagna, toure, gallas, rosicky to come back, arshavin to come in, a dm “ready to play now” to come in. We aren’t relying on the kids, we have a team without the kids that are learning the game, they’re just the ones who could become the equivalent of the 30 million pound players who we won’t otherwise get, and who could bring us up to the level of teams like barca.
The only way all our kids would go elsewhere is if wenger left, if he stays they won’t go anywhere, because they won’t want to!
LOL A
Give me a name that is better than Hangeland and available
“level below” geez u really are sumthing
So Sakho(unproven 18 year old with talent) is better than norway captain with prem exp.
geez..give me a break!
Stu
I would agree with you there, Cech has dipped in form since the head injury and now mistakes do creap into his game from time to time
But it shows how good he is, that in my opinion he is still the best keeper in the premiership and in the World.
When Gallas signed the only low-ish numbers available were 3 and 10. He is a cunt for picking no.10 thinking he is fit to wear the same number as the legend that IS DB10. I hate him just for that. He should have either taken 3 or a high number.
Yeah jonjon, and they are! Theo is unrecognisable from the player he was at the start of last season, Cesc came on very quickly from when he first came through to when he became a regular, vela, wilshere, ramsey, nasri will be the same next season.
Yeah but from what i’ve heard stu sakho is young but is absolutely quality already. With toure and gallas, it’d be nice to have a top top quality youngster alongside one of them next year, most likely kolo. Defensively is the one area we don’t have top quality talented kids coming through.
Toulalan is more of a cultured dm stu, it’s not that i don’t rate him, but think we need someone strong and powerful like vieira to compliment the other midfielders, we need a bruiser, and he’d cost a bomb to get lyon to let him leave, and wouldn’t be likely this transfer window, so just think we’ll get in someone else.
cesc isnt ready now A
he cant even get into the spanish team properly, hes far from ready, and he might be at barca next year.
nasris far from ready, rosicky may never come back, we might not see arseshavings
the players you mentioned before were vela LJW bendtner ramsey, who arent exactly world beaters no matter how much potential they have
our team is all about ifs and buts
you dont have a wonderful team built on ifs and buts
But at about 15m Sakho is too much of a risk in a vital area. Hangeland would be cheaper and better for now.
Personally, unless Toure can really discover amazing form I wouldnt want either of them here next season and add Silvestre to that list too.
swedish we don’t know who will be available in the summer, we aren’t going to sign a defender this transfer window, so who is available now is irrelevant. Hangeland is a good premiership defender, but isn’t and will never be on par with the best in europe, or even the premiership, and that is the level we must be signing, not just a good player with premiership experience.
I don’t know much about sakho, only seen him play once and he didn’t blow me away, but is just very very highly rated, and will be available come the summer because his contract is expiring the following summer, many of the top clubs in europe seem to be after him, and wenger’s french contacts, especially his psg contacts would put us in pole position.
hangeland isn’t wanted by the top clubs, because he’s a level below the vidics, ferdinands, and carvalhos of the prem, and we need to be going for players who are or will be at that level
morning all
the links, poor footy sent me to bed @ th 55th minute or so. Anyone got a link to the goal from Little Nicky
Liverpool are gone, we will real them in, now that benitez has cracked by spraying Sir Fur-on-Tongue. And that suites me coz I hate liverwurst, i think they are just a one man team that has dined out on their luck.
Le Chump is a great laugh. Life is always normal when spuds having the piss taken out of them Chamoneeeeeeeee
U think we need a bruiser so we don’t get overrun do u A??
like today u mean???
I’m glad we had Song in the team today or else Bolton would have walked all over us!
But wait…
Hey….our only problem was we missed Vela from the start
what u think A?
With our budget, I dont think there are any Defenders that are better than what we have got.
Remember the Djourou +1 partnership is still developing and personally I think Djourou and Toure could be the longer term option. Is Hangeland better than Gallas or Toure. I am not sure. I think we needed a tall player in but we found him in Djourou and he complements the play with either Gallas or Toure.
The problem before was that when we played Toure and Gallas together we could not deal with height, and the best partnership is to get one tall to deal with problem players like Crouch or Drogba, and one mobile to take the ball out and distribute which Toure used to do pretty well. If we bought Hangeland are we not just reversing the problem with two tall players who are not overly mobile?
If we are looking for a Defender should we not be looking for a replacement for the trouble causing Gallas or out of form Toure and then who is available? is Upson better than those two. Chiellini or Zapata are the choices there for me, but I fear they are out of our price range presently.
nothing yet Gnarely – try this one throughout the morning, shouldnt be too long
http://myarsenalvlog.blogspot.com/
Pat
Couldn’t agree more with you re Big Yo Yo20. Fuck the Gallas/Kolo saga, its time to build the defence around Johan
jonjon cesc would get into any other national side in the world, the only reason he doesn’t play regularly for spain is that the best player in the world in his position is also spanish! There are very few centre mids in the world i’d have over cesc.
nasri just needs to adapt to the prem, he’ll be ready by the end of the season, and when he has help in the creative quarters.
granted with the rest that’s the worst case scenario wilshere, ramsey, bendtner might never fulfil their potential, vela and nasri never adapt to the prem, we might end up being crap! But in that case we’d buy so it’d be fine!
We need a quality midfielder that can pass and sniff out danger
Toulalan def. qualify
A, Hangeland is the best we can afford on our bedget. Carvalho and Ferdinand cost 20-30m. Wenger wont even spend that on the whole defence let alone 1 defender.
If Gallas or Toure do leave then personally i think JD and PS are our best partnership.
evo cheers big fella. Must have been nerve racking towards the end. Anyone heard from rico since Little Nicky
saved us, again 
Only joking rico, I’ve had my reservations about him too.
optimistic as ever A
yeah its was getting a bit nervy, but it was a great goal set up by the awesome clichy and helped on its way by the awesome RVP!
great strike also by nikky B, he still had it all to do with a defender hanging off him when he lunged for it!
Once Big JD20 starts to feel like “part of the furniture” @ the back, i.e more game time, I think he could have a real presence as we shoot back up the table. Get him on the weights, he could be as terrorising as Big Paddy V was
Bendtner nearly replicated his exact goal from the spuds game last season when he came on and powered that header in…..saved easily by the keeper, but he was up in the atmosphere again!
And he nutmeged the keeper. He did tday what Ade couldnt do in the last few games, even with an open goal or two.
yeah 15 mil is a lot stu, was just throwing out a name, as i can’t think of many top quality defenders!
I don’t think djourou will ever be top top quality, i’m happy if kolo can regain his old for for it to be kolo plus a top new commanding signing.
I think we need a bruiser so we can compete physically with teams that try and bully us. Denilson did a good job mopping up in front of the defence the odd time bolton did try and attack, but that was a very poor bolton side decimated with injuries.
Stu
I actually am one of the Senderos followers. I actually see a lot of Tony Adams in him, but I think his issues with Confidence will unfortunately always bug him in his career. It is a real shame as he could be a world beater.
I think Gallas will leave either in the next few weeks or more likely quietly over the summer and the Djourou Partner will be brought in.
Gnarley I completely agree, build the defence around Djourou. Next Season as things stand we will be 3/4 of the way there on the back four. Find the Mobile defender in the summer and let them gel and we will have an awesome back four and a back five if Fabianski starts as number 1.
There isnt reall many quality defenders around anymore. The only ones around are expensive, so that rules us out already.
…..so now we are 8 points from the top. 97/98 anyone. If le Prof signs Arswaxin & Upson, look out Chelski, Aston martin, Liverwurst & manure, here we come. Maybe Wenger has kept the powder dry specially for this sort of onslaught @ the end. Boom! Boom! Boom!
Bloody hell its amazing what a 1-0 win can do for ya
yeah stu i know we can’t spend that money, which is why i mentioned sakho, as with our midfielders and strikers, we would likely adopt the mentality of buying young defenders who we hope will become 20-30 mil centre backs. Sakho in the summer with only 12 months left of his contract could go for much less, and would fall into that category, just pure speculation though no reason to think we were interested apart from a couple of rumours.
I’d be shocked if we signed hangeland, just because we never sign players who aren’t either exceptional, or younger and with the potential to become exceptional. We don’t sign players who won’t improve any further and aren’t at the same level as the top players.
We don’t know what our budget could be in the summer, could spend a bit more, as will only be looking at strengthening the defence
gnarley there’s no way we’re signing a defender, wenger said that, so upson’s a no go!
I am not a fan of Bendtners, I really dont think he will make it at the top level, but his finish today was excellent, that was not an easy chance and given that the crowd were on his back, that showed some real grit to convert it.
He needs to be doing it more often to convince me though.
Check out the table, spuds are 3rd last now. Its just getting better
A
How did Kolo look?
Senderos just needs to be given more than a game here and there. Last season his only run in the team was when Kolo was away and he did very well, better with each game, only to be unfairly dropped the second Kolo returned.
IMO we have a more than capable back 5 available in Fab, Phil, JD, Sagna, Clichy. Although that could obviously be improved on but for now its what i would go with. And next year, if we dont buy, i wouldnt be unhappy with that defence.
so who are the teams that try to bully us??
Bolton…nahaa who then??
cos we need song and denilson in EVERY match according to A
I thought he was actually ok today gnarley, miles better than against villa and earlier in the season at least! Bolton weren’t the best test for him though, they didn’t threaten until after we scored, and then we were very nervous, though that was the team as a whole, and the atmosphere in the ground etc, i think if we get a run going we’ll get that confidence back and holding onto a lead won’t be such an issue!
Gnarley – as a bonus (which you missed out on) fox sports played a 20 minute highlight filler whilst waiting for the stoke-pool game to kick off of the 1996 north london derby against the spuds when we won 3-1 at highbury after it being 1-1 until 88 mins when TA powered in his goal followed by a bergy classic! gold!
villa and stoke are the two that stand out swedish, though stoke would bully us whoever we’ve got in the side!
At the moment we do need them in every match, they together bring solidity to the central midfield, and denilson is the only player who brings composure to the midfield
It was a comfortable return and a good maych to get back into the stride of things.
A, I agree on Defenders
I think Wenger is holding off the Defence until the Summer. It is just not priority. I think we can get by there and on there day I really cant see why we moan about
Sagna, Djourou, Gallas/Toure, Clichy
I dont think there are many back fours better than that in the Premiership, they just need time to gel instead of switching them every game.
The priority for me is the Holding Midfielder and the RW position in that order.
I think we are covered for Cesc as Nasri has been arguably more effective in the last couple of games anyway, and we would be covered on the left if we actually started Vela. Sort out the Song/Denilson/Diaby position and get some depth in the Theo/Eboue position and we are sorted midfield.
In the Summer we need to look up front as I still think we lack world class players there. Ade got his 80k and is a shadow of his former self (Albeit with crap service), RVP is inconsistent and the fact that he is one goal away from his best tally of 13 sums it up. Vela is developing, Eduardo is still to prove himself, and Nic is not going to make it despite a great finish today (Hey even crappy strikers in the Conference convert a great finish every now and again)
Evo
Lets all focus our mental strength for the next 24 hours on Wigan dumping on spuds.
Come on wigan Come on wigan come on wigan
Off for some brekky so I’l catch you all later.
We love you Arsenal we do, We love you Arsenal we do, We love you Arsenal we do, oh Arsenal we love you.
and a red card and injury fest in the scum vs scum game too!
Yeah pat, that’s what i think. Defence isn’t perfect but isn’t a massive priority, and we need an attacking mid/winger, and a holding mid desperately, though i’d put them in that order.
Disagree massively up front though, vp is one of the top forwards in europe, and will score a bagfull of goals if he stays fit, i still think bendtner will become a top top player, vela will be ready to start very very soon, eduardo is a fantastic finisher. VP hasn’t scored THAT many goals because of injuries, when he’s been fit he’s got a brilliant goal to game ratio though. Theo will become a top top forward too.
A
I think you are still wrong…these two are the ones + eboue that are holding us back
u never get a fluid game going whith these players and u def not get the defensive side sorted cos they are too young and clueless
It’s better to play ramsey, nasri in the middle
they are as young and clueless in defence but offer so so much more creativity
bit silly to discuss things a fair way in the future but anyways –
by next season our squad will have fabianski and almunia as keepers, in that order
sagna and clichy, hopefully backed up by eboue and traore,
centre backs not got a clue, none of them are guaranteed to be at the club, nor first choice. Djourou prob won’t be going anywhere though
attacking mids/wingers in nasri, arshavin(hopefully), rosicky, theo, wilshere we’ve got incredible talent there
likewise cesc and ramsey as more offensive centre mids, and denilson is a good player too depending on whether he’s considered more attacking or defensive
defensive mid we need signings though
rvp, eduardo, bendtner, vela, and ade (though i think if we could get good money for him he should be off)
Swedish, im with you on not playing Denilsong but surely playing both Nasri AND Ransey would be even worse because there would be absolutely no defensive mindset in midfield.
i don’t think they’re too young or clueless at all swedish. I agree they aren’t perfect for a flowing fast attacking side, but at the moment that isn’t the football we’re capable of playing with out injuries etc, so we need them in to be solid. Song is very strong, and good in the air, denilson is very clever, intercepts all day, and is very composed on the ball, two players who we need to keep us together in the current turmoil, until we have the players or confidence to get back to our old flowing football ways.
Ramsey isn’t ready to start yet imo, he’s still very raw however talented he is, and i think nasri will be much more effective playing in a more advanced role with those two shielding him.
Right I am off to my bed, I am on baby feed in the morning so need to try and get 7 hours in.
That is the great thing about Le Grove, Just as I am getting in bed the likes of Gnarley are having Breakfast.
he will be having a beer on his weetabix i bet!
Denilson had a good game today…..but he is an average player and very slow
Song is also an averag player and even slower
playing these two together is suicide
so if ur going out …go out with a bang..hence ramsey nasri..where there is a chance of a battering and nice play
we aren’t going out though swedish, we’re still in the title chase! We need to be solid, not suicidal, which is what a ramsey, nasri midfield would be! Why pick a team to take a battering?!
Denilson is average for an arsenal player, but good for a premiership player, and song does a job we need done until we sign a superior replacement.
Ramsey is too naive to play regularly, especially in terms of when we have not got the ball and also he still holds on to it too long when he has a simple option on. But he has to learn I guess.
I like Denilson, but I think we are asking/expecting too much of such a youngster.
Song? Well he has a long way to go before he could lace either Makalele or Essien’s boots!
Swedish + A, just make a compromise.
1 of each. Nasri/Ramsey and Song/Denilson
Denilson and Ramsey have already been tried and failed so Nasri and Song is the next option.
u got it wrong A
i meant we would prob win by 5-0 if we played ramsey nasri (ok mby 5-1)
that setup is superior to denilson song
I agree with everything you said zorro, apart from we (as in the fans) certainly are asking and expecting too much from denilson, but wenger isn’t i don’t think. His role in the team is to be reliable, composed, and solid, he’s not meant to replace or do what cesc did.
Song likewise i agree with that valuation of him, but he’s the only one we’ve got unfortunately!
Ramsey hasn’t looked any good in the PL so far and does not deserve a start. What games are you watching? It was a stupid sub by Wenger. He gave away 3-4 free kicks 30 yards from goal.
Nasri and Song would be my CM pairing.
Hey! We won…..
title race still on
Goooo Gunners
villa are so lucky i think. bloody wankers
Pat
He got on when the game was won
oh ok swedish, i thought you meant fuck being solid lets just let teams batter us, but play nice football whilst they do it!
lol stu i won’t compromise! In a proper team things could be different, but in a team decimated by injuries, and with it’s confidence shattered like us, we need the most defensive players starting in those positions in the immediate matches imo!
Ramsey, like vela, isn’t ready to start yet because he’s too raw and he hasn’t adapted to our style of play well enough though i’m sure he will eventually. We need to be solid and bring these players on to sacrifice defence for attack if we need the extra spark, which we usually do!
Nasri will always play though, just more advanced or out wide, but we can’t start him centre mid because he isn’t good enough defensively, and his having to do defensive work would prevent him doing as much good work going forward
Its taking 2 men to do the job of 1. If Song wasnt so thick he would be a good short term solution. Unfortunately he has the strength and jump but lacks discipline, passing ability and concentration. Denilson doesnt really have those either but in fairness to him he isnt a DM.
pat i do agree that ramsey was pants when he came on, but i don’t think it was a stupid sub just because ade was absolutely attrocious, and needed to come off! It was just the fact that there wasn’t anyone else on the bench who could’ve come on!
Thats why Nasri with a DM would work. 1 dm + 1 am instead of 2 cms.
I wouldn’t say it’s two men doing the job of one, it depends on the team and situation, some teams play 2 holding mids all the time, and it’s just something we need to do in the short term until we get some confidence, and players back.
Btw, Gilberto scored for Pana today
No, together Denilsong make just about a good enough player but alone they are worse than half a natural DM.
Edu scored too. A header no less.
Imo, Vela deserves a start. He’s more direct than any of our midfielders and he made an instant impact today
I would suggest that Gilberto would be no better than Denilson at the same age and that I think Denilson can grow into a top class player, it will just take time and really that is not something we have at the moment as we are expecting too many kids to grow all at once. I would go with Denilson over Song every time!
I fit hard to believe that Vela played left wing for the last few seasons because whenever he got the ball today he came inside looking to force his way into the box. Just like everyone else who plays wide for us.
I think that’s why he isn’t starting pat, his directness. Again, because we’re decimated by injuries, and lacking in confidence, we’re playing players who are less direct, with better ball retension, for defensive reasons, which is why vela is used very successfully as a sub to come on and bring that directness. When we become stronger as a team he could start, but i don’t think he could at the moment. In feb, with new signings coming in etc i could see him starting games, though he’s more likely to start up front than in midfield, he isn’t a 4-4-2 winger, when he comes on we usually switch to 4-3-3 sort of formation
Stu vela played left wing in a 4-3-3/4-5-1 sort of formation, he wasn’t a 4-4-2 normal left mid, he roamed around a bit found himself on the right at times too when i saw him. He only played out wide because osasuna played 1 up front.
Stu, many modern day wingers do that. The game is changing. It also depends on how the team plays.
A, how can you actually believe that Eboue, Song and even sometimes Diaby have better ball retention that Vela would have?
agree that Ramsey isn’t ready yet
just highlights how crap i think song is
denilson is tidy but average and i choose Ramsey’s magic
i like his highs and can stand his lows but i cant stand average
Sorry, but I hate it when Wenger puts Ramsey on. He’s just like Walcott, but without the speed. No brain. he can’t defend to save his life.
Song or Denilson are much better choices than Ramsey
They do stu, vela does great things but is incredibly direct, every other time he gets the ball he runs at the defence and good things come from it a fair bit but he also loses it a fair bit. In terms of their ball retention eboue keeps the ball much more than vela, and diaby tries to (although he was attrocious today), and song is a holding mid. Vela will be a fantastic forward, and a very good direct winger, in a 4-3-3, but currently we need to be more solid and less direct which is why he’s a super sub rather than a starter
at the moment that’s what we need in the middle though swedish, it’s hard to accept, and harder to watch, but we need reliable averageness to keep some stability, until the spark returns.
The only thing reliable about Song is that he will be reliably inconsistent and poor.
The amount of times he is caught ball watching is shocking for a supposed DM.
noones trying to claim he’s a wonder player stu, but he’s just better at being a defensive mid than anyone else we’ve got, and with our current predicament that supercedes and other players’ attributes
A, I wanted Diaby to get a few games in CM, but so far he is not convincing me, and other than the Villa goal, he is failing to convince me of his potential, which is a huge shame as physically he is the sort of player we need.
Likewise, although I see your point about Eboue’s ball retention, he is not really adding a great deal to the team at present, so much so that LJW must be worth a try at some point!
what about diaby.. he is not a DM.. he can’t be one..
I think he is to be played behind the striker.. problem is we have many players who can play there… nasri too.. nicklas is a winger in disguise!
If Diaby needs to play in a front 2, he better find another club!
zorro.. that is the only position i think he can play in.. he was dire today in the middle of the park
Heh, how’s everyone ? pleased with a good win ?!
I think we’re being over critical, that’s two wins now, both deserved against teams whose furthest forward player played just inside their own half, and two clean sheets.
The only thing for me that was disappointing was the chance we let Bolton have aftr we scored, because it took us 84 minutes to score and about 10 seconds to nearly throw it away again.
So add Diaby to the list then. He is another that we can get rid of.
yeah i agree about diaby zorro, he’s really not improved for a long time and doesn’t have what it takes to play centre mid imo. Agree with choy, he has to be played behind the striker if he plays, but i’d rather nasri played central if we’re playing someone in that position!
Eboue is just more powerful, and better defensively than wilshere, i think he’ll come in at times when the team is more settled though. Eboue was actually ok today, kept the ball well, and did well defensively, re-watched the game earlier, and eboue did more defensively than i thought originally, cleared up after diaby’s giving the ball away alot, though obviously bolton barely tried to attack!
We are unbeaten in 7 too. Plus 4 straight wins, right?
All we need is a DM to release attackrs further forward and a creative spark until the usual suspects are fit.
keyser.. relief is the word..
I also liked the fact that nick scored and the entire team celebrated!
yeah stu, diaby is one player i could certainly see leaving, more than anyone else in the squad he could be expendable come the summer.
I think it was always going to come keyser, but it certainly is a worry the way nerves set in when we finally break down the opposition, not sure how it’ll be sorted either! Hopefully if we keep the run going it will sort itself out!
I didnt reall see the celebration and never really do because of goal replays. I hope the team is warming to Nik because that will help his confidence too. It looked after the game that a few players were happily talking to Nik and i dont think i’ve ever seen that happen before.
Lets hope its because they now hate Ade and have switched sides.
stu.. talking about ade.. what is up with him? i think 80k a week was all that he wanted
Diaby, Eboue and Silvestre dont really seem to have positions. They play where ever is open. I wouldnt be upset at all if those 3 were sold. We could get between 10-15m for those 3.
He must be in dream land Choy. He is set for life with that money. When he retires he will move back to Africa and become a King somewhere.
Stu – No, lets hope that they’re all together now and we’re actually a team, Adebayor raced over the Bendtner and gave him a massive hug after the goal, why should we hate anyone ? They play for Arsenal.
Choy – Know what, I felt kind of like this last season I didn’t know what to expect and when we left it late against Fulham it was massive relief and then we scored loads of late goals last season, we’ve done it for years, Kanu against Chelsea was one of the best matches ever.
Thats two games now we’ve scored in the 80′s it was a relief but I’m beginning to be a bit more confident in the team to, so hopefully the team feels the same.
eboue and silvest are ok as backup…
diaby.. i really don’t know, he can’t seem to play anywhere else behind the main striker.
nasri sure is looking good.. he created at least a couple of great chances today!
Why do pundits keep going on about us missing out on 4th as if it’s something new? Have they forgotten that we were a portion of Lasagne away from 5th spot in the last game of 2006.
I have often wondered if it might have been better for the European Cup Final if we had lost out on 4th that season; maybe we would have gone into the final with more of an attitude to win and it could have gone our way!
I still have dreams about TH14 heading in on goal with 20 left and him slotting it for 2-0 and watching him lift the trophy! Oh well, we live to dream another day!
Three points, a clean sheet, and no denial from AW or the board on Arshavin! This was a good week!
Three wins on the trot. We now need to take this momentum to Hull and avenge our defeat at the Emirates.
Also Zorr0. Liverpool finished fifth and nothing was said (even if the did win the CL but still!)
I thought it was 4 straight wins?
Bolton, Plymouth, Pompey and…. who was the 4th?
If this was a settled team where we added players one at a time into the mix and they didn’t perform playing next to the great players we’ve had at the club, fine, but they’re all having to learn together this season.
Diaby’s played on the wing, behind the striker and now this is his second game in the middle, even then he’s been switched around from one half to the next, the goal against Villa was pure class, I hope he stays.
It’s like criticising Simpson on his first start for West Brom, if he was good enough to have an instant impact he wouldn’t be at West Brom in the first place, he’d be in our first team, they go to learn and further their game, after 40 minutes and a game how much are they have supposed to gained ?!
Despite all the passes going astray, I think we had a goo game today. This team is good enough to beat most premiership teams. I know this is not a great Arsenal team, but good enough to take us through the next month.
Hull and Cardiff should be wins. If we can keep the momentum, then we will be in a good position for Everton away. Then we have the spuds, followed by Roma.
The next month is going to be critical and I am happy we are going into the stretch of away games with three wins.
Never mind
Zorro, we are destined to relive that Paris final. It was an unbelievably sweet run, beating RM and Juve on the way to Barcelona. Our team did brilliantly, and I am still proud of them even though we didnt get the trophy.
Stu, just checked Arsenal.com. Three draws against Boro, Liverpool and Villa followed by three wins.
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/122868/GUNNING-FOR-BATTAGLIA.html
Keyser, agree with you on Diaby. Just wish he would stop making comments to the press about his “best position” being behind the striker and just play in the position he has been assigned for the sake of the team. Even Song and Eboue dont complain to the press when they are played out of position.
BTW, I thought Eboue had a solid game. Not brilliant, but solid. I can see myself getting to like him.
Stu – We’ve played 7 in the league since we last lost, I think Citeh was the last, we beat Chelsea and Wigan, drew with Middlesborough, Liverpool and then Villa, and we’ve won the last two against Portsmouth and Bolton.
In between we played Kyiv – beat them, lost to Burnley and Porto and beat Plymouth.
Stu, Battaglia would be a dream signing for us. He is hard in the challenge and can intimidate other teams.
The big downside is that he played for Villareal for some time and couldn’t adjust despite most of the team being Argentinian. I don’t remember whether he played against us in the Cl match.
PDT – I’ve thought that myself at times, about why players are constantly talking in the press, but at the same time they have commitments to sponsors and stuff and th club so if they’re asked the question by journalists they just give an honest answer.
Thing is some are just more reserved then others, or deal better with the questions, Van Persie always says the right things and gives a good interview, and just watch Walcott, they were saying he must have media training which I think most of the players get anyway.
Choy, I was disappointed with Ade yesterday. He was caught with his back to goal many many times. He doesn’t have a turn and he doesnt even try. He just passes it back to the man who passed him the ball.
And when he makes his runs, he is offside.
Agree Keyser. Theo is a natural with the press and it helps that he has such a solid grounded value system. Cesc is also like that.
Kolo also used to be very good with the press and I was surprised that the news of his transfer request got picked up. I am also surprised he didnt come out and clarify his position.
I’m off to the gym. I am looking forward to see how Pedro rates Denilson and Eboue. I thought they played well.
Ade couldnt do anything today. He couldnt shoot, dribble and worst of all he didnt win any headers. He got beaten to every damn long ball. Isnt he supposed to be in the team to compete, not wait on the left wing to pass to clichy?
PDT.. noticed that.. he didn’t even try to dribble or take the ball forwards.. needs a kick up the arse i think!
*forward
PDT, isnt it a bit late for the gym? Well it is here anyway.
His agent confirms it, but where are the quotes? I hate NOTW
Whos agent confirms what?
Heh, his agent says there is interest from a London club, could be Tottenham..
Adebayor’s a bit crap in tight positions, Van Persie had a ball blasted at him and just controlled it and shot in almost one movement.
Adebayor was clever to beat the offside trap though when Nasri played that great ball to him, but took the biscuit trying to place the ball, if he hasn’t got much space to run into he’s just too big and cumbersome.
I think Eduardo would have done well today, I remember West Ham last year and Eduardo just ripped the heart out of them, ball played in, turn and volley into the corner and we just controlled the game from then on.
“His agent confirmed interest from a London club, plus two from Italy. ”
From the article you posted. There are no quotes. I know there are many London clubs, but I’d like a quote at least. NOTW is trash anyway. Same with the Sun and daily star
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=50090800
MOTD highlights if you missed it
Apparently Battaglia has scored agaisnt us. Not sure when but Boca won 3-1
It could have been Arsenal de Sarandi ?
nevermind, it cuts off for some reason
Bindippers dropped points today and at least one of the other scum teams will tomorrow. If we can keep it together and get acouple in we’ll have cesc theo and maybe dudu for the run in, you never know.
Ya probably. I didnt see any proof that it was us.
my God, I said Aston Villa were lucky, but I just watched the highlights against the baggies. The commentators said Villa benefited from 4 own goals in their last 5 games!!
Their luck has to run out eventually. Surely it cant last!!
Cheers Pat
Nice all round goal that
Even that cunt shearer said they wouldn’t finish top 4
pft, boring old Shearer. What does he know like. He is about as smart as a dry sponge!
They’ve won 3 of the last 4 on the backs of own goals, West Ham 1-0, Hull 1-0 and now West Brom 2-1, the second was a cross going nowhere Carson thought would be best nestlng in the back of his net.
In between they’ve had us gifting them a point from nowhere. They have to run out sooner or later.
i suppose for once wenger made a good sub move . it should be duty noted !
when i saw nik b coming on i said OH NO ! .. but once i knew it was for eboue i thought ,we have lost nothing there anyhow , so all in all a good move by Le Boss !
Nik b has potential ive said it all along , but he still has a way to go .. and he needs some confidence and plenty of pitch time , but he is far more valuable than the African player of the year !
what a joke that is ade af. player of the year …
if that is truly so , i think we need to stop buying them !
again last night other than a little flick to RVP he was totally anonymous again last night !
90 minutes on the pitch for 1 shot , and again straight at the goal keeper ! 2 or 3 off sides .
just another 80 k a week performance from the big log !
how bergkamp can say ade is great and RVP is crap is beyond me !
for the little support that RVP got last night i think he did well with the scraps he was given ..
we should have won that game 3-0 .
but i suppose 3 points are 3 points !
I was delighted when I saw Nik was coming on. He is a goal threat, mostly when as a sub but still a threat. Moreso than Ade as of late anyway.
How Ade took that long to “steady” himself is beyond me. Eduardo, RvP, Vela, even Theo and Bendtner would have had enough time to score twice with that time and space.
Ade is returning to the player he was at first arrival, but without the same workrate and a lot more arrogance.
Delighted for Bendtner tho. He is showing what he is capable of, even if it is just in small flashes but he is still only 20 so has time on his side. Expect big things from him next season when the midfield is back stronger and better.
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooners!!!!!
Yes Stu,
Nikki B has potential and I swear despite the doubters the kid has a red hot future.
He is a confidence player and if he is feeling good then he is on top of his game.
Your up late Wrighty, just getting home i presume. On the lash were ya!!
As for Villa.
Admittedly they look good at the moment but their luck and form wont last forever.
There will will be a time that Arsenal hit a run of form that will be unstoppable and I’m gonna write a blog on it.
Arsenal will be top four. It’s not great but I honestly think we will be fourth and will win the Champins League!
I’ld be happy with 4th and the FA Cup because at least my dreams are somewhat realistic
Stu,
You are right matey!
Just got home and fingers crossed hoping my footie is called off in the morning! Ha ha
I was out for a mates B’day!
How are you???
I cant really complain can I. 3points, a clean sheet and a dominating performance, even if we didnt shoot much and Ade was useless again.
Other than that the weather is all that annoys me.
I think the FA Cup has lost it’s magic for Wenger mate.
It seems like it aint a priority anymore. I’m gutted because back in the day Wenger valued it.
Hopefully he gets that magic back!
Stu,
Geezer, we won and at the end of the day as long we keep on the coat tails of the others then we have a chance of being there.
Stu,
I’m off mate. Take care.
Keep it Goonerish……………
Almunia(i hate him)
Sagna JD Toure/Gallas Clichy
Eboue Nasri Song Vela
RVP Ade
I think thats our strongest team atm
We mayt have won but we are still 3 points off 4th.
Regarding the Fa cup : I think Wenger realises that he needs a trophy to keep us somewhat satisfied because another season without any silverware would be catastrophic in terms of the clubs fanbase. The stadium would become less and less full, season tickets wouldnt be renewed etc etc.
Night Wrighty, take it easy, dont be too hungover!
Pat, if you hate him then dont play him./ I hate him too and dont ever chose him.
Fabianski
Sagna JD Gallas Clichy
Nasri ………….damn it! We font have a best midfield. They are all useless!!!!
With a full strength squad i would play….hmmm…
Fabianski
Sagna Toure/JD Senderos Clichy
Nasri Cesc Denilson(?) Rosicky
Bendtner/RvP Eduardo
Sooner or later we will be able to pick that team (i hope)
pat
i think dudu or nik for ade ..
and eboue for ramsey ..
and song just has no right being in the team at all !
id rather see jack start his apprenticeship prior to giving song another run !
start as you mean to go on !
the sooner jack gets some time on the pitch the sooner he will establish himself , and lets face it the boy is a wonder kid ! OFFICIALLY !
he will easily take a grasp if given the opportunity to take 1 of the 1st 11 spots for himself , if wenger shows some faith in him ! SO START WENGER ! FFS !
the sooner wenger starts playing lil jack the better , because you dont have to be a rocket scientist to figure out he will be a future arsenal star , so just start him and by doing so you will
fill another void that was created pre-season ..
maybe against bolton i wouldn’t play jack either … they lack the skill to play football . they would rather resort to physical play to make up for there severe lack of skill , just a shame we couldnt put more past them last night ,but with only 1 striker plying his trade the result could of been worse i suppose !
80 k is way too much to pay that fucking bum ! he is stopping a david villa or santa cruz from joining our club , who could make a difference ..
when i think about wengers pre – season decision not to sell him im left mortified !
can managements decisions be that poor ?
While on the subject of Jack and pre-season, isnt it odd that JW was played often in pre-season, even scoring a few goals and yet isnt being given any first team opportunities this actual season.
He terrorised either Juve or Madrid (cant recall) and scored against a man way more than twice his age in Mad Jens, and with a showing of his great technique toboot.
I always thought the idea of pre-season was so that the 1st team could get rid of the rust and get back into a routine. So why bring a kid that wont be playing in the 1st team. Crazy decision imo because it just gave the fans false hope that we might see another exciting talent emerge.
As for Ade, he is a joke. How he won african player of the year is beyond me because in 2008 he didnt do much. None of our players did, yet the worst of them all won an award. How nice for him. Shame he cant score anymore.
the more i think about that game last night, the more i realise it was a good win.
we huffed and puffed and couldnt blow the house down, but we didnt give up like times in the past!
at least the team can learn a lot from a result like that and even Wenger can learn from that too – in fact that his subs worked and that he didnt wait until the end when it was too late and he finally made some subs at the right time!
stu
i agree the FA cup seems the most probable , but again it all depends on the draws and who remains fit as time goes on !
i couldnt say we have it in the bag , i think for most clubs the pressure of getting silverware is harder to come by .
and the competition will heat up accordingly , i think we will win fuck al this season and im hopeful we can retain 4th spot , but in some ways dropping out of the C.L might get us some silverware next season in the form of a EUfa CUP .
Roma play Milan tonight so lets see who wins that game?
i think we should account for Roma no worries!
Roma sit 11th in serie A. How nice for them. They are still a threat tho because anything can happen in a cup competition.
I wouldnt be happy finishing 5th, obviously, but it might wake up the board and force them to spend money. The Uefa cup aint what it used to be. Spurs are even in that ffs.
Bayern were in the uefa cup and didnt win it. So there is no guarentee that we will come close but it is a big possibility.
And we wouldnt have to worry about not being able to attract CL quality stars because we dont even do that now…so not much would change apart from playing on Thursdays instead of Tue and Wed.
Eduardo isn’t ready. Ramsey is nowhere near deserving of a start. He just loses the ball and it seems he doesn’t have a brain. Choosing Ramsey over Song/Denilson is suicide. Lets show some common sense. Ramsey has shown absolutely nothing when he comes on in the PL.
Stop calling for WIlshere too. He’s not ready. Some of you are unbelievable. This is an important time in the season and Wenger is right to keep rambo and wilshere on the bench.
Song is the best CDM option we have. SOme of you would be terrible managers.
Fabianski isn’t ready to start. Yes, he comes out but he comes out even when he shouldn’t. I’ve watched him MUCH, MUCH longer than any of you have when he played for Legia.
Stu, I am on the other side of the world…closer to Ethan, I would guess….
Pat, take it easy! Its just our opinions, no need to rant about them.
As for us being terrible managers, im pretty sure if i had the same scouting network as Wenger then Song wouldnt be still in my team, let alone my only option for DM. You cant argue that that is good management because it is far from it.
PDT, god to know I guess!??
*good
Also why did Denilson and Song get to bypass the reserves? They would have been found out there and wouldnt have made it to the 1st team, especially no so soon at least. Denilson maybe but not Song because he doesnt have any arsenal like attributes.
Stu, are you saying Ramsey has done better in CM than SOng? Ramsey puts us under so much pressure and I feal uneasy everytime he gets the ball.
Did you see how many free kicks he gave away today? Those are great chances for Bolton to score, against us at least.
And also, if I was given this team in the middle of a season, Song or Denilson would start as CDM. They’re both shit if you ask me, but we don’t have anyone better.
Simpson looked pretty good for WBA today
What?? Im ot suggesting we start Ramsey because i dont think he is ready either but Song and Denilson both in centre mid is stupid and really negative.
Personally i want to see Merida there but Wenger just wont play him for some reason and he is almost 19, older than Ramsey and imo easily a better player too.
I’ve only seen Merida is his very few CC appearances. I used to have ATVO, but my friend canceled it.
BUT, I have been digging up videos and info on Coquelin and some are confident he can make the Arsenal first team very soon.
From what I’ve seen, he is perfect in the CDM role.
From what i hear Coquelin is an energetic Makelele. If so then we are in for a treat.
The CC hasnt done Merida any justice. He is apparently going to be better than Cesc. He is a left footed CM/AM, reasonably fast with great skills. He has an eye for a killer pass and loves to have a pop at goal.
He is one of the stars of the Spanish youth teams and is tipped as one of the future best players in the world. How many more reasons does Wenger need to give this guy a chance. And if AW says some shit about Merida being better as a winger I will freak.
Him moving players out of their best position is one of his major flaws. Just because it worked once or twice before doesnt mean it will work everytime!!
I’ld pick Coq and Merida over Ramsey and especially Randall any day. We also have Lansbury around the 18 age so we should be OK as far as CM is concerned for a few years as long as AW doesnt release all of them. Yet another flaw.
I’d pick anyone over randall. He’s my least favorite Arsenal player. I don’t know why, he just is.
I know the basics about Merida, just not how he’d fit in.
Coq and Merida our future CM pairing? I think Fifa had Merida in a “Players to Watch” list.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TapB-7RuZKc
he would be best suited to left attacking midfield of a diamond imo.
dm
Cesc Merida
AM
I cant find many current clips on him tho.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1w009_u17-fran-merida-goal_sport
I feel sorry for Fran because he left Barca and joined us for a better chance. But he is yet to break through here and all his former teammates at barca youths are all breaking through for Barca now. Bojan, and the others whos names I cant spell.
PAT
Stop calling for WIlshere too. He’s not ready.
HOW WILL THEY EVER BE READY ?
song wasn’t ready this season either !
he still is crap , cant run .. also gives the ball away constantly ..
the only difference between song-eboue and jack and ramsey is lack of opportunities and
the latter have more skill and promise .. So if wenger is to honor his youth policies he should start developing these 2 ! because this season is a right off !
so you might as well take this opportunity to develop vela – jack and ramsey into 1st team options !
Its a fact that wenger is using the EPL 38 game season +C.C to blood his youth players ,
sure he masks it very well , but over all theo – cesc – eboue song senderos – johan even clichy etc , were not the best options available for the team initially ..
I like the cut of ramsey jib and jack has looked nothing but confident in every game he plays ..
and thats even against a near full strength real madrid pre season !
JACK is ready wenger was holding him back because of contract signing prior. and possibly didnt want him to play against the more psychical bolton yesterday .
But vela and ramsey made appearances yesterday and looked far better players than the people they replaced ! so if the boss thinks they are ready why dont you pat ?
Morning all,
this adebayor/bedntner debate is becoming tedious.FACT ade has scored 6 and bedntner 2 league goals this season.The question I ask is why Bedntner better when coming off the bench.Is it immaturity,lazyness that whenever he starts he contributes little.I haven’t changed my mind about Ade,for a professional on top wages,he offers very little in reading the game,his control,his shooting and his heading.
The pair remind me of a poor man’s berbatov and henry,the trouble being they think they are better than they are,and if eduardo comes back mentally and physically fit he will replace one or the other as our main striker.ade spends most of his time either being caught offside or strolling around the flanks.he is living on last years’s reputation and thinks he is above being critisized..
i think vela is all we need…we were lacking creativity in the bolton game…when vela came in he did wonders….making life difficult for the bolton defence….he could be our ronalso or rubben…the boss just need to give the lad a chance to start a game….
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