So all the rumours about us letting Jay Simpson out on loan are bollocks and that’s the best bit of news during our miserable run up to Christmas I’ve had.
Spookily young Simpson shares his name with the great Homer Jay Simpson of the world renowned adult show ‘The Simpsons’ but that my friends is where the similarity ends, this kid can be our Defoe, actually I think he’s somewhere between Defoe and Bellamy.
Good piece of business boss, now let’s see him up the pecking order ahead of Bendtner, he’s had his chances, give someone who cares a go and ship Bendtner out to someone who wants him.
I think the Arshavin rumours are happening too often now not to have some truth in them, it reminds me of the Nasri deal, now I like the Arshavin I saw against Rangers in the UEFA Cup and I liked most of the Arshavin I saw in the Euros, but against Spain he went missing and for me he’s certainly worth no more than Hleb, so if Wenger can get him for under £15mil I’d be happy, if not I wouldn’t want him.
I still like the idea of bringing in Scott Parker as defensive midfield but only if we were sure his injuries are behind him, I’m guessing Alonso is a deal that won’t happen now and the YaYa thing was always a no goer so I hope he has a few irons in the fire, I still like the Ribery for Bendtner idea and Song for a case of Gatorade, but we so need a winger, we saw against Portsmouth what a difference Vela made when he came on and he’s not really a winger.
Well we only have a couple of days to go but I really think there are only us and ManCity still in the real buyers enclosure, so we should show our hand sooner rather than later and get someone big in fast.
I guess Villa have been given money as they know it’s their last real chance to get into ECL and an investment now makes sense, the Spuds are desperate to avoid relegation and they still have the Berbatov money burning a hole in their pockets and they now realise Harry is in fact a shit manager, who’ll probably go back to being an Arsenal fan once he gets fired, so they may spend too.
It is funny how no one else has moved for Arshavin though isn’t it? Not one club, if he does come I hope he adapts really quickly.
Maybe today, probably tomorrow, have a great day Grovers.
Diakhate is too similar to Kolo, too small and originally a midfielder. Why cant we just buy players that are naturals in their position.
Yeah i do agree with that stu, especially if players forget to take their malaria tablets!
Still, if the ANC gets rescheduled to be during the summer it would be fine, and that could well happen very soon
oh dear gambon, well in that case that’s a no go then!
Im watching the CLQF from 2006 v Juve, i’ll be honest…I miss big phil.
I dont mean to sound racist but its inevitable so here goes; i would rather we sign some white defenders. I mean we have an entire black defence and its a bad one at that. IMO white players are traditionally and historically better defenders because they have a better tactical understanding and are generally pesimistic, so always expect a mistake.
I cant begin to explain how annoyed i get when i see one of our defenders just roaming forward, it is reall risky and something which no defender should do to often. And our defenders do it at 0-0 when its not necessary or acceptable.
Obviously there are exceptions to every rule so im trying my best not to generalise all players.
As do I Gambon. His career at Arsenal effectively ended when Gallas reared his face here. Its a shame because he had developed a great partnership with Toure.
You didn’t do the best job of it there stu, and you’re pretty wrong. It used to be the case that players who came from africa weren’t as tacically aware, because the coaching etc was much worse, but it isn’t the case anymore as anyone who’s any good is coached by top coaches from a very early age. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the colour of skin anyways. I studied it as part of my degree, the thick as shit pundits and media still try to claim that black people are less intelligent and just athletes, and white footballers are more intelligent, but it simply isn’t the case and just comes from remnants of the old racist past we try to forget about. Gallas is as tactically aware as any centre back.
People can be fooled outside of england, because although there are alot of black english defenders, in other countries like italy, where defence is the most important aspect of their game, they don’t have a massive black population, so there are very few black italian defenders, and with italy being the most defensively focussed league all the best defenders to come out of there are white.
It does depend on the upbringing, some players who come out of africa a bit later are poorly educated and less tactically aware, but it has nothing to do with skin colour, there are very few players who come out of africa late nowadays. You just have to look at how thick so many white english footballers are to see that they aren’t any more intelligent and in many cases much less intelligent than the majority of black players
A, gallas is very poor tactically.
Also – with regards to defenders roaming forward, that has nothing to do with colour of skin, or tactical awareness, it’s a common tactic in situations where the opposition is playing so defensive you need an extra man, and terry does it all the time for chelsea, puyol all the time for barca when he’s playing centre back, pepe does it all the time, as does sergio ramos…. Even adams did it frequently, remember the goal against everton when we won the title?!
That’s one of my fondest arsenal moments, was watching it on tv can’t remember why i wasn’t there, and a liverpool fan mate of mine said early on “tony adams better not go on any of his stupid runs up the pitch, who does he think he is”, twenty minutes later he was chesting and smashing it in! That was just a brilliant day, can’t wait for captain senderos (instilled as vice with cesc out and back from milan) to storm up the pitch and re-enact it to win us the title this season!
I disagree massively gambon, he’s quality tactically in my opinion. That’s the massive difference and the reason he’s so much better than kolo
Well I guess you disproved that then.
I suppose that its just a preference of mine in that case. Im a big fan of defensive football, not that i dont like attacking football but I love a good solid defender. I now have and always have had an admiration for tactics and defending. Being a cautious person myself i hate having to watch our players be so naiive and poor at simple defending and get annoyed when i see other team defend successfully and consistently.
Im not trying to say it comes down to the colour of a players skin, i just feel that black players arent as defensive minded as white players. Just an opinion of mine that isnt likely to change. I would like to be wrong but our poor black defense in a way supports my belief.
I dont mean to offend anyone because im really not like that. But i would like to add that i have tried to loom for top class african-blooded defenders that have made careers out of being world class defenders but Lillian Thuram is the only name that i feel can be mentioned.
Do you get what im trying to say?
Just to add to that- I know there are now and have been top black English defenders, im not arguing that but they have had early training to instill that into them.
I guess the individual player characterisitcs factor into that aswell, how defence minded they are etc.
I watch the acn sometimes and if you watch it too you can argue against that they are all horribly set up tactically. There i no defending, just all out attack. Very much we attack- you attact. Damn near every African is a beast aswell. IMO they lact the cautious character traits to be the best of defenders.
It depends what you mean by solid defenders stu. Much lauded white defenders like terry and carragher aren’t that great tactically, they’re just incredibly determined, passionate, and cheats! Black defenders do generally seem different from that old fashioned types of play, and are a different style more cultured and such like. Tactically I’d say ferdinand, and gallas are far superior tactically than any other defenders in the prem, but the likes of vidic, terry, carragher are just more solid, willing to kick people, and more powerful. Kind of a reverse on traditional views to an extent, although ferdinand and terry are quicker which fits the stereotype.
Old fashioned defenders like terry and carragher are a dying breed, and look crap nowadays if they aren’t alongside more cultured defenders, be they black or white, carvalho for terry, ferdinand for vidic etc. Though we do need a powerful strong defender, regardless of the colour of skin. Granted i’ve not seen him this season but i’ve always been a massive fan of lucio, and think he’d be perfect for us.
Yeah I can’t think of any really great african defenders, but then there havn’t been that many great african outfield players. In terms of skin colour there have been many quality brazillian defenders (who again are misrepresented in the idiotic british media as not very good because they’re not white). I’d love us to sign alex, but im sure chelsea would never sell to us
Yeah stu i agree about the african nations cup, but that’s because the domestic infrastructure was absolutely apalling in africa, and although it’s improving it’s still very crap. Therefore although they aren’t all poor tactically individually and some are good, as a team they are completely and utterly inept defensively, though it is getting better, especially with top clubs having academies and such like and european coaches coaching national sides.
It has absolutely nothing to do with character traits, as those don’t differ depending on skin colour!
Obviously the black english defenders have had that instilled into them with early training, just as the white english defenders have. People start equal, regardless of colour of skin, and if they receive good or crap coaching, in europe or africa, they will react in exactly the same way. african defenders are good with top coaching, just as white defenders would be completely and utterly shite without it! Most african players who are any good are in an academy in africa or europe from a very early age, so in the vast majority of cases the differences are just imaginary and remnants of past experiences and prejudices
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I suppose in a way i have been massively influenced by old style defenders such as Carragher as you say. Also by the likes of TA and Bouldy from the defensive glory days. They are essentially the type of defender I am trying to explain. They were big, strong defenders whos only goal was to defend and keep a clean sheet firstly and goals for them were just a great bonus. Aside from their defendive abilities they were also caoable footballers and marshalled the defence using their tactical nous and understanding- a trait which seems to be far less common in black players.
It is becoming the best and most popular defensive pairing recently to have centrebacks which compliment eachother. As you say Vidic and Ferdinand, Carragher and Agger, Terry and Carvalho- 1 ball winner best complimented by 1 ball player.
imo this could also apply to every partnership throughout the team, most effective in the spine of a team. In CM, 1 destructive and 1 creative. Up front ! runner and 1 box player. all things we dont have.
Stu, yep we are horribly out of balance.
A,
i disagreein that aspect. I think individualcharacter traits do have an influence on a players defensive ability, ie how much they defend or worry about defending rather than prefering to go forward when an opportunity to attack.
For example in the majority of Africans they are attack minded or were once attackers. Not a lot of African originated players will be completely commited to defence unless thats their sole duty. Also i feel that in most africans defence doesnt hold any kind of presidence or priority.
We’ve all seen the clips of big players going back to the places where they played as kids and you still see, even to this day, that everyone attacks. Its very rare that you see some of the kids staying back out of preference. I believe thats a trait specific to defenders. You are either born a defender or your not and so many African realted players, if they happen to be defenders were probably at one point strikers.
I guess so Gambon.
y dont they get matias fernandez for winger..??
Yeah I get what you mean, though I still wouldn’t say that is has anything to do with black and white, it has to do with cultural differences. The old fashioned traditional british culture is one where masculinity is commonly assumed to mean aggression and passion, and these are the things which are most important to british men, the concept of a “real man” and such like, and a reason why our country is very backwards in many ways imo. The reason people like john terry is named our england captain, and we are so inferior technically to the rest of europe. Being “hard” is considered as if not more important as being a good footballer, or intelligent! The best defenders in the world in other countries, who are white, are more cultured and less aggressive, like carvalho, cannavaro, puyol. It’s only in england that being a thug is deemed a positive attribute! Though obviously there are exceptions with big powerful players elsewhere in europe, but thuggishness is something much more obvious in britain than anywhere else. Maybe that’s why you don’t get many black english defenders in the terry/carragher mould, they probably aren’t as entwined into traditional old fashioned british culture and mindsets.
I wouldn’t say white english defenders who shout alot are better tactically necessarily, just as old fashioned british managers who shout aren’t better tactically, they just have the old fashioned mentalities where the way to be a good leader is to try and discipline players, but many players don’t react well to that nowadays.
Obviously though adams, bould etc were fantastic tactically, but so are more contintental style defenders, just in a different way.
I agree about partnerships, though I wouldn’t say it’s as simple as that throughout the whole team. Centre backs i think it is, but throughout the rest of the team the players just need to compliment the other players and all the necessary boxes for a team need to be ticked, but there are more different types of midifielders and forwards than just destructive, creative, runner, and box, and all compliment each other in different ways. We just havn’t yet found a balance or players who compliment each other best
Yeah i agree stu that individual traits influence how a player plays, but individual traits have absolutely nothing to do with skin colour, and you aren’t “born” anything, it’s how you were brought up, absolutely nothing to do with black and white!
Granted, in africa, brazil, portugal, spain and alot of other countries throughout the world emphasis is placed much more on attack and skills and such like than defence, unlike england and italy, and that does effect how players think, and how many become defensive compared to how many become attacking players, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t also produce very good defensders. Spain have a very attacking mentality, which results in a plethora of far superior players technically than us, but still produce two of the best defenders in the world in puyol and sergio ramos, and portugal carvalho, brazil lucio, juan, alex, apparently breno is amazing etc
A, i guess its my age that has seen all of my points disproved in more way than one. Every point you argue is better but than mine and i now feel as tho im just blabering because i dont know how to best get my point across. I know I am generalising too much and im not going into enough detail but as Wenger says- I will come good.
I do however agree with most of what you said.
No i pretty sure i get what you mean stu, I just don’t agree with it but only because i studied it academically, before that I probably would have said exactly what you’re saying, and not that we’re coming from completely different standpoints and it’s like you’re arguing from one extreme and i’m trying to disprove you from the opposite standpoint, but it’s just the way in which the standpoints are expressed that is different!
Anyways, regarding our partnerships etc, I think our most difficult partnership is possibly our forwards, we have so many different types of forwards with differing strengths, ade is big, strong, and relatively quick, but inconsistant and not very composed to say the least, nor intelligent. Eduardo is our box player, Vela our quick nippy dribbler, bendtner’s biggest strength is dropping deep and trying to thread passes, vp is kind of a weird one, technically absolutely amazing, amazing dribbler at times, but I really don’t get if he’s better dropping deeper or running behind, he’s a very strange type of forward.
I really don’t get who the best partnership would be. In terms of an actual partnership, vela and bendtner’s interaction in pre season and the carling cup was absolutely amazing, and probably the best and most two forwards have worked together, but they couldn’t play ahead of our other forwards at the moment certainly! I’d say individually vp and eduardo would be our currently best forwards (assuming eduardo gets fit as he used to be) but could they play together?
lol A ,harsh on ade about not very inteligent,he is joint top in the asist table,i think he is perfect to partner eduardo vela or theo,van does well with ade but i dont think vans deep play suits ades own game,bendtner has a lot to do to be included in any partnership talk
Good, lets get back to footballing matters. I was losing that last argument fairly convincingly(sp).
In terms of our striker partnerships I think Nik and Eduardo are potentially our best partnership. From what you just saif Nik prefers to drop deep and play passes whereas Eduardo is a box player. Add to that they both seem to be very intellegent footballer too. While one drops deep to join the build up the other would stay in and around the box with the roles switching in any given instance.
Bendtners age is the annoyance with that tho. He has definately shown glimses of what he can do-whether it be a 50yard assist or a neat flick to get a midfield runner in on goal. Its really unfortunate and imo unfair on him that he has been thrown in at the deep end, when the team as a whole is failing and he is scrutinised for his mistakes. He has the intellegence and ability to be great but his attitude and committment needs inprovement.
Vela being very similar in many ways to Eduardo could prove vital if one of the two were injured. Both are quick minded, quick footed and have a deadly eye for goal. The only difference i have spotted so far is that Eduardo could only do 1 thing in a match and result in a goal but Vela demands more of the ball.
our defence has nothing to do with race,kolo and gallas for me are just utility defenders, they can do a little bit of everything defensively but they arent specialist in any area like aerial or cunning ,they are just good defenders who need a big partner to help them look good
Also im not sure how two left footers would do together either. Its wierd how when 2 righties play together noone blinks but 2 lefties is very much a rarity.
Maybe it has something to do with most left footed players being very reliant on that foot alone and right footers being ambidexterious (spelling).
left footed players all prefer to turn a certain way,right footed players arent as reliant on turning a certain way,i dunno why,but kolo toure gets turned silly every now and then and dont even know what way he is facing lol
Im tryi remember but my memory isnt working tonight. I think Eduardo and Van Persie have only played together up front against Blackburn at the start of last season. Van Persie definately scored, it might have been the 1-1 draw.
Bergkamp, A isnt being harsh, nor is he wrong. Ade is a pretty un-intellegent player. Assists dont mean you are a smart footballer at all.
Ya Bergkamp, i noticed that recently too. He got turned so easily and nearly fell over. This isnt new tho, remember Christian Nade turning him like a wheel when we lost 1-0 to Sheffield United. What a horrible game that was, couldnt even score against Jagielka.
well it depends what you would consider inteligent, robin is meant to be the brains of the arsenal attack,the creative player,but he dont have the brains to even pass the ball, i think ade is our most inteligent forward even though he is as thick as two short planks,im not including ed or vela,i cant judge vela i think he is a smart forward and so is ed
whats happnin guys
he got turned last season at home against boro and beat in a race from the halfway line by that slow turkish guy too because he couldnt recover from the turn
anyone think we will see new players coming in ????????
is arteta really any good?? iv never taken any real notice of him
Nothing much BBK. Just discussing the forwards and potentially the best pairings up front. And that Toure gets turned to easily.
Bergkamp, Toure is pretty much a recovery player. His pace used to get him out of so much trouble he was put in by his poor positioning. He seems to have lost that pace now.
he’s an intelligent player who can make things happen i.m.o plus he can deliver a good free kick
since the acon toure has suffered,now with this gallas bust up things have not seemed to get any better for him
i think he has lost a couple yards of pace too,definantly,his ass has ballooned,the looks like he has a problem hittin the breaks as well,thats one of the other reasons he is easy to turn,his ass gets too much momentum when he dives in,id swap him for sol even
Im not convinced that anyone of note will be coming in but then again Wenger really has no option but to add to the squad. We probably have the worst squad of the top6 (the other 2 being Villa and Everton)
Arteta is a neat player. Good ball control, great delivery and a dead ball specialist. Not always on top form tho but has been most of this season.
if man city are ready to pay 10 mill for him i think wenger would take it
i dunno,i just think id rather have ass shaver than arteta,ass shaver can pick up the ball and run with it, we lack that,im sick of seeing denilson play wide too ,when cesc comes back if we get more injurys it means denilson or arteta on the wing,im not convinced,i definantly prefer ass shaver
But BBK, that would be dangerous unless Wenger has a replacement already lined up. We are already shocking in the CB department. If we were left with Gallas, JD, Fish and Song i’ld probably lose it and attack someone.
Arteta would be a decent replacement for cesc no one else really in that team has got that spanish vision
would van give up his claim on the deal ball?? i bet he wouldnt
phil is coming back stu,him and JD are gonna rule the roost
i like arshavin from what i have seen but if he can’t speak any english i reckon he will sruggle like the geeza up the road
Why not both Bergkamp. £30m on 2 top players. Not bad. Plus IF the squad is ever fully fit there will be a health competition for places and keep everyone on their toes.
oh great,jeremy kyle replay,we need this guy to speak to gallas
Arshavin or Arteta?
I will choose Arteta by million mile!
30 mill your havin a laugh,we will have to sell 50 mills worth before they let him have 30 mill
Id rather have arshavin in the long term, but as we really need points this season id rather arteta.
Can you imagine seeing Arteta at RM rather than Eboue or Diaby, thatd be sweet.
Still think a strong tackler is most important though.
BBK, Im sure he understands football. It is a universal langage after all. Just scream ball when he wants it.
Bergkamp, you better not be shitting me on this! Fabianski-JD -Phil- – perfect.
what about the dynamo kiev defender we are linked with
toure must be off
Wenger will not buy arshavin.
It’s is a big gamble.
imagine ass shaver and cesc in one team,ass shaver doesnt have cescs eye with the ball but he moves into the most dangerous areas of the pitch unlike nasri hiding behind clichy waitin for a backpass
Someone said either yesterday or monday that Senderos has a “bust up” with Keown. Any truth to that?
The best defensive signing we could make would be Keown as defensive coach.
JD and phil are gonna be a pair for us i reckon,give it 6 months
BBK, you mean Diakhate. He is another African defender who was once a midfielder. We would lose him to the acn too. We dont need more africans in the starting line up because it ruins the season.
BBK, If you mean Pape Diakhate then no for me, better spending the money on a lot of other cb’s including Christian Zapata.
Swiss pair. I like that bergkamp.
i think he just thought keown was a madman and told him so stu,eboue once said he was terrified when he first came to arsenal by 3 scary white men,keown ,lehmann and luzny, i think they created a culture shock for europes finest kids when they got near the first squad
im down with the swizz,but we need to start defending deepno high line, we neeed a good holding midfielder too if phil an djourou ever get in the line up
We dont have a good core of the same nationality anymore. The french players arent what the once were. Nasri, Clichy, Diaby, Gallas, Sagna dont compare to the ones we once had because they dont have the same chemistry. And Gallas is the only one that plays for France and he will retire from that soon.
IF, big IF, we did sign Inler that would be a start. JD, Ohil and Inler playing together for club and country. 50 odd games a season together. Could be a lethal trio.
imo Phil would put a stop to all this high line nonsense. He is pretty smart too and would know that we should be playing deep. Especially with our amazing lack of pace anymore and our keepers’ indecision when coming off their line.
Whether or not Wenger would tell them Im sure Phil would take charge. Surely he learned something at Mila. I mean being injured and unable to play he could have taken notes or something.
they dont really have a leader now these french kids, pires and henry were very embrassive of the english culture, the lot we have now sit round eating snails and reading books,gallas still hangs out with chelsea rent boys and kolo well no one knows nothing about him apart from he can get turned easily
Inler. Is he can play out wide?
We already loaded with CMs.
im just saying if we are inked with a defender then maybe toure’s predicament is true.i also agree not another african who we will lose every 2 years its just ridiculous
senderos is no good even milan don’t want him any longer
lol our defenders are trigger happy,they get attracted up the pitch because they are like fans willing someone to shoot,this is what magnetically pulls them up the pitch,itchy ass because no one will pull the trigger syndrome,then we get fucked up on the break
i.m.o we need more english players in this team an english spine is what we are missing
loaded with cm’s who cant defend,look at denilson for instance,villa,91st minute,a 6ft4 black geezer in a purple shirt strolled past him and into our box and he stod there an didnt notice,everytime a loose ball breaks it goes to the oposition because we dont have a dm who thinks about these dangers
denilson has let so many players just waltz on in and score he really is dumb when it comes to tracking players
vandejie,
No Inler is a DM. Agreed we have a lot of cms but none of them are good, they are all of about the same quality(inseperable) and none of them are defensive.
English players usually are overpriced.
so its what we need vandejie
we do need wide players,but u cant work without a solid base,if we buy attackers were just gamblin ,we will always concede 91st minute unless our centre mid is sorted
BBK,
i agree about needing more English players but the best players are all going to United for 30m whenever they show promise. Who would you suggest. Or we could but foreigners for the time being and wait for our English kids to come through.
the french experiment has failed time for some good old english spirit back in this team
if you look at gallas when he was at chelsea him next to terry was a solid partnership like when toure and campbell were together,
i think we have a lot of chancers in our team,not a lot of proof amongst them,they are all hope and hype,denilson song diaby,none of them have done anything good apart from 5 minutes here or there,show me 3 good games on the spin from one of these fools,i dont believe a run like that exists,infact show me 3 good results on the spin where they havent fucked up
i think these players can play well together one foreign one english
campbell-toure
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-positions which cause less disruption when players are rotated in and out of there.
As long as the spine is consistent and everyone knows their job the team will do fine.
i think when wenger had the chance he should of moved for curtis davis i think him and toure or gallas would worked well together
stu they should invest in the ramseys and wilsheres,hypnotherapy,everything ,if they dont wanna buy the rooneys they have to give these players the best chances possible,not loan them out to west brom and then when they come back leave them on the bench for 6 months,like vela,they been bangin on about vela for two years and now when we need him arsenal treat him like a top secret more often than not
the sucessfull teams that have won the prem have had english spines in there its the only way i think we wll win something is if we move for that type of team again
BBK,
its not really a case of 1 english 1 foreign although that is working. imo Its more 1 ball winner with 1 ball player. That still fits your examples.
yeh..I agree with that. Look at our last game, when vela come in, we got some spark in attacking.
arsenal have not got any english centre halfs coming thru they only have english strikers and midfielders we are in trouble if none are coming thru the system
BBK, What English players would you buy so?
vela should consider a transfer request,he must have sat on the bench a few times an thought wow,they would rather play denilson wide than me,and they would rather play nik bendtner with ade than me even though they are both simular and dont frighten full backs when they go wide for half the game,and wow they would rather play eboue out of position than me on the left wing,if i was vela id quit
Stu i agree with you, and i think right now our team looks like this…
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just look at manu and chelsea also liverpool and villa it is all working for them,then you have us not one english centre half in there
We had a few english CBs coming through but they have since been moved on.
Matthew Conolly springs to mind. He is doing great at QPR now and is only 21. Hopefully the next manager will look to buy these players back, i mean the good ones that shouldnt have left. Steve Bould anyone?
Youve obviously got a lot of patience bergkamp.
Vela isnt a left winger.
he must be thinking i gotta fly all the way to mexico to get a game,this country is cold,its shyt,the girls are drunks,cant get a game….poor old vela
Lescott or Upson then BBK
gambon,i know that,but he played a whole season there last season,im sure he would happily play there like he did saturday and actually run at the defenders
theo isnt a right winger gambon,they play him there,routinely,like he wants to play there
Im sure the £30k per week helps.
But BBK, those teams are very well organised too and their managers actually value defending. Not Wenger who probably laughs at players who want to practice defending and set pieces.
i would of went for curtis davis,lescott,wheater,noble,ashley young and wright phillips
and upson
I know gambon.
who will you play? Eboue or Vela on the left wing.
Theo doesnt have a position unfortunately, i dont think he’ll ever be a winger or a striker at the top level.
Vela will be our main man upfront, just a bit too early for him.
Walcott clearly doesnt like having to play wing and still considers himself as a striker. In Le Challenge, the french crossbar challenge Theo presents his position as a striker
Neither are the right solution. Nor is diaby, we need 4 wide midfielders.
the 30k a week would certainly help,but it would help if we played guys in places they are comfortable,rather than wrong footed and unfit
given
sagna gallas lescott clichy
swp noble cesc ashley young
walcott adebayor
if you ask theo his position he will say striker,if you ask wenger he will say eventually striker but he is not strong enough,which basically translates to i hope he will be a great winger oneday….theo can leave at the end of the season if he wants,arsenal will offer him a new deal but he will want assurances he will be played upfront soon
Theo is just too overrated. I like him as a player because he has a good potential.
But his real weakness is in decision making.
wright phillips and curtis davies are nowhere near what we need. i do agree we should try and buy up english talent when possible.
thats 11 players bbk,no cheating
theo walcott only thrives on running on to the ball if he came when the 03-04 team was about jeeeeeeeeeeez it would be amazing
theo should be played upfront,then his only decision needs to be which side of the keeper,not none of this be a good player an pass lark on the wing
BBK
It looks like too offensive. we will concede more with that midfielders IMO.
We should have:
2 keepers to fight for no.1 spot
4cbs- 2regulars and 2 as cover
4fullbacks- ”
4cms
4widemen
1 utility midfielder
4strikers for competition
Plus younsgters 5 max
Thats a 23man squad plus the kids for the CC. Sorted. Wenger take note!
thats my team bergkamp i know its rather on the small side but there are some real work horses in there
noble ashley young and wright phillips all work back not like denilsong who let players in for fun
lol theres 12 players in it bbk
Yes bergkamp. Not fair to theo. He is a natural striker not a winger type. Like what Arsene did to eboue.
if you really wanted to mix things up id put jenas in there
very funny bergkamp lolllllllllllllllllll
Bergkamp, its 11 actually. Have a recount. Ashley Young is only 1 player. I hate players with common names and their 1st name is always included,.
Linked with Arteta……this is more likely……..I’ve rated him for a while now….and think he could do well for us…..and plus he takes a mean free kick
…….and TBH I’d rather have him than the Russian bloke….So would Scrooge……..
haha…lol
theo played upfront for southampton and left defences for dead,he was route one and direct,now he runs round the houses to avoid tackles instead of headin for the box and demanding defenders either bring him down or get out the way,he is fast becomin arran lennons little bro
Iceman, I think most of us would want Arteta because he isnt as much of a gamble os Arshavin would defo be.
Iceman, I like Arteta style of play.
I rate him as a quality player.
Hope we can have him.
also id like to see jermaine defoe in this team him and adebayor up front
lol no BBk’s team has 12 players,lol oh yeah ashley young lol, i was thinking who the fuck is ashley lol
hahahaaha bergkamp you been on the old jin and juice tonight
BBK, Defoe? Even after being with Spuds? Plus he seems like a prick. Dont know why i feel that way tho?
lol it was the herbs again BBK
But look like Moyes don’t want to sell him.
i would blatently have him in there can you imagine the amount of goals he would get for us he’s a proper finisher
Heres a crazy, really out there idea but here goes- why dont we buy an actual left footed player to play left midfield?
lollllllllll bergkamp been smoking it up
No wait, I take it back! Thats too crazy!
i dont know what the deal is with arshavin,reports say his club were willing to sell him in the summer for 14-16 mill until they found out he was demanding 150k a week and they thought nah fuck u,u wanna be greedy we do too,they dont need the money these ruskies
why dont we buy a proper goal keeper too stu ?????????
One bonus with signing Arteta is that he is Xabi Alonsos best mate so if theres even a sniff of picking up alonso we will be his first choice.
Just imagine a midfield of
Arteta – Cesc – Alonso – Rosicky
sexy footballs back
(obviously Rosickys never gonna play again)
had a quick go BBK nothing serious,just a quick one to stop me wrecking the gaff after jesus rose again and helped villa out
where’s nasrini
Defoe has never had an impressive goalscoring record anywhere.
them brummy cunts are really pissing me off the amount of luck they are getting at the moment is sickeing
Thats just bordering on insane bbk. Wenger will just buy a striker and convest him into a keeper. Dont worry about that.
Nasri on the bench as a squad option.