Okay spade… you’re a damn spade!!! + Elephants

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Ok, before I start, understand I am getting very bored of writing match reports after we lose… It’s difficult to bring variety to the same issues… but that wont stop me trying.

Here goes.

I watched this documentary about killer elephants in Africa. The local elephants were killing the wildlife indiscriminately and attacking farmers cattle. Researchers went out to Kenya to find out what was going on… when they arrived they set up cameras to try and find out what was going on…what they saw was pretty shocking… they caught a young elephant trying to make love to a hippo… the hippo didn’t fancy it… so the elephant mauled it to death.

After researching the problem the scientists found out that the reason the elephants were misbehaving. The nature reserve the elephants were housed in had imported 20 young elephants to kick start their preservation project… but because the elephants were so young, they didn’t know how to behave… so they started acting up, much in the same way naughty school boys do when left to their own devices. The problem was solved by importing 4 older elephants from other nature reserves who guided the young elephants to maturity thus preventing any more misbehaviour.

Now there is a story, eh? I wonder if a couple of mature signing in January could work the same magic? Maybe it would stop Randall dry humping the ball bag… or teach Diaby to high five with his team mates when he is subbed… or give Nik B the wake up call he so throughly needs on the pitch…

Forget all those points… this team needs an injection of confidence.

The team don’t run for each other, they don’t trust each other and they don’t believe in themselves. We have a clueless bunch of above average kids… and that is why we can turnover good teams every now and then, but we struggle against poor teams. I wont give player ratings, why bother… it was pretty dire out there.

Tonight was an exercise in humiliation, and maybe a few of the maturer elephants in the team could have prevented such an event.

The kids weren’t great tonight… Rambo was off key, Vela ran around like a headless chicken, Bendtner ran around like a headless chicken after it has stopped… and some of the more mature players were terrible.

First up.

Nik B (The shame of it is at 21 he is one of the old guard).

Who said blogs don’t have an effect? I had a real issue with the pink boots… I voiced my displeasure… Nik converted to green! Brilliant. Shame his perfomance didn’t perk up… he was woeful tonight… he looked lethargic and uninterested.

I know what he needs… he needs to find the waterboy rage. In the film ‘the water boy’… Bobby Bouche finds his intensity and drive by thinking about all the people that have been mean to him…

Maybe Arsene should try this method…

‘Nik, think of all the mean comments left on Le Grove and other such blog sites… and use them as your goal scoring fuel!’

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGPYYnA6UD8&hl=en&fs=1]

Second up, Eboue.

Tonight was his chance to redeem himself in his favoured position of right back. Well, if Eboue did anything tonight he proved a point… the point being that he is not a good right back… he is a bad player and I for one hope he carries out his threat of leaving in the summer… it would be about as traumatic as the day I found out Senderos was off to Milan.

Thirdly…Almunia.

For me he has been on a downward spiral this season. How many times do Arsenal have to succumb to simple set pieces? A corner is as dangerous as a freekick 20 yards out… no one has a clue what they are doing. When a ball finishes up in the middle of the box, 7 yards out…unchallenged, there is something wrong. Almunia should have been there to claim the cross with a big shout… if it was clear that he had bottled it… Diaby should have been there. It’s just not good enough from a goal keeping perspective and piss poor from a defensive point of view.

Surely it is about time we started calling a spade a spade. Eboue is poor, Senderos is poor, Song is poor… lets give up the game of saying ‘they’ll come good’. They wont guys… fans know a thing or two about football and if 90% of fans are saying those players wont make it… they are probably right.

Arsene Wenger reckons great wages don’t stop players making mistakes… fair point. Pay me £400,000 a week and I probably couldn’t run a nuclear power plant… but that is not the issue. Our issue is we have the 2nd highest wage bill in the country… the youngest team… and we’re the 4th best team in the Prem.

Logic says to me that something is wrong with those stats, just like there would be something wrong if I was being paid stupid money to run a power plant.

Which player did you think of when you saw this pic?

Game of Association: Which player did you think of when you saw this pic?

There is nothing admirable in backing averageness. If anything, this behaviour we’ve resorted to just highlights our desperation…We know the first team wont win anything this year… so we cry out for the youth team to be given a go… now it is apparent they are no better (well, at the moment)… we are stuck. Our only hope is a few bodies in January…

A lot of the talk this week has been aimed at showing Eboue a little more respect. Well, respect is a two way street and I think Arsene should be made aware of that.

Fielding a weakened team away in Europe when fans have paid good money; during a recession, isn’t showing respect. I also question what good throwing a game does on the back of 3 wins? How are the kids going to feel now… what effect will the loss have on the mood around the club?

We fielded a poor team and we paid the price… keep them crossed, because last time we threw a game unnecessarily it was United in the FA Cup… and we all know what happened after that…

See you in the comments section!

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  1. raif

    JonJon

    also Fire Fox is a better and more Secure Browser then internet expert.

    also you can import ur Faves aswell witch is good. so u dont need to do them Manually

  2. Pedro

    Chozzer… he was originally on wordpress… then he moved to .org for adverts etc… so I guess something must have broken!

  3. chozzer

    Pedro, have you seen arsenal insider today. I know it’s shite but their poorly written post says all the stuff that grovers have been saying for months and a few grovers have had a go in the comments section. FTK my arse.

  4. gnarleygeorge9

    This stop/start up/down type experience I am getting from the Wenger Boys is not good for the spirit :(

    But a win over Boro this weekend, any sort of win (0-1 would do) would go a long way to putting some optimism back in the old GG9.

    Come on Arsenal, have a red hot go!!!!!!!

    No guts, no glory!!!!!

  5. Pedro

    Chozzer, I’ve heard he got a bit of a grilling!

    Every time someone has a pop at us… they always end up looking stupid…

    I haven’t had a look but I am sure the comments are funny if Steve had anything to do with them!

  6. raif

    gnarleygeorge9

    we need to get a few games Won on the trot, i’ll be happy with a few 1 – 0 wins under our belts, and as much as i want us to win with Style, ill be happy with somthing a Little Less stylish,

    all that matters is the 3 points

  7. Stu

    Me thinks that we should invest in some German efficiency! Any Bundesliga highlights i see always impress me. They always seem technically good on the ball.

  8. Me

    Your post was spot on but i almost stopped reading when you dissed Almunia. He is one of the best keepers we’ve ever had. He made us look good on the night as he always has (but for a few mistakes made by even the greatest keepers in the world). If we had fabianski in post, we would be 14th now rather than 4th. Remember him against Burnley? Hideous!!

    Anyway, Long Live The Arsenal.

  9. Stu

    Evening Wrighty, saw your post. Wish I could be as optimistic. Juve look really good, we all know how good Barca are doing and Bayern are on great form too. Unles we work a miracle and avoid them i the draw I really fear for us.

  10. Stu

    Raif, Bastian must have amazing self controll to let them do that during his interview. I would have at least hit one of them.

  11. Pedro

    Me, I think that is taking it a bit to far! Best ever? He hasn’t won a trophy yet! Seaman, Wilson, Jennings, Lukic… Lehmann…!

    Almunia was very consistent last year… not so this year I’m afraid. He has made a lot of mistakes.

  12. Stu

    Obviously Almunia is still a few years off his peak, being a keeper, but imo he asnt shown enough natural ability to suggest that hes going to get much better. Whereas Fabianski has shown that he will decide early what he is going to do and do it. Fabianski is very highly spoken of within Arsenal and by the goalkeeper coach, who ever that is.

  13. Wrighty7

    Guys and Gals,

    On Almunia. I think he is a good goalie but I don’t feel he is top class.

    If goalkeepers were put into a system of rankings, like the leagues in England, I’d say he makes the Championship.

    People like Casillas, Buffon are Premiership.

    Keepers like Gomes are Blue Square Premiership.

    Catch my drift??

    I think that Almunia has improved since being at the club but I bet a lot of that goes down to Mad Jens keeping him on his toes.

  14. Stu

    I said before and i would still rather that we have Fabianski in goal learning from his mistakes rather that Almunia in goal making the same mistakes time after time.

  15. Pedro

    Well said Wrighty. He is ok… but probably wont ever match the greats.

    Fabianski might… he has raw talent… but very raw.

  16. Big Raddy

    Hola

    Just recovering from last night. What a shit show.

    We need a rethink. People always talk about the spine of the team being of massive importance. Almunia, WG, ?? , Ade is not exactly fearsome is it.

    Compare to Friedel, Laursen, Barry, Abonglohar/Carew.

    Sad that even Villa look better at the moment. action must be taken, and taken fast,

  17. Me

    Dutch gunner….thank you so much. Silvestre is the major reason we are shit! I strongly believe Manure used some black magic on Wenger and got him to sign the shite silvestre, who in turn was pais by manure to sabotage arsenal!! …Ha ha ha ha….that sounds funny to me even…lol. On a serious note, when we get rid of Silvestre, we get rid of 30% of our problems. Getting rid of Bendtner will get rid of another 20%. Eboue, Denilson, Gallas together will get rid of another 20%. 11 new experienced players will take care of the rest!!

  18. Wrighty7

    Me,

    Do you think Wenger will sign 11, yes 11 new experienced players mate???

    In that case I want the Spanish national team because we already have Cesc and Alonso could be the 11th!!! LOL

  19. Pedro

    Touche Raddy!

    Friedel is a top class keeper… Laursen and Barry are good… Carew isn’t as good as Ade.

    We need to buy in some mature quality…

  20. Big Raddy

    My goodness Wrighty.

    On second thoughts , you are right.

    Almunia is better than Seaman, Jennings, Wilson, Kelsey, Lukic etc. It must have been all those years chasing the dragon that caused my delusion. Sorry……..

  21. Matt

    Well I think that it has been seen and said so many times, you just have to wonder is Arsene is really on the same planet. We have a squad made up of some very good players – Fabregas, Van Persie, Clichy, Sagna – some good players with potential – Nasri, Walcott, Eduardo, Djourou, – Some Squad players – Adebeyor, Silvestre – some good young players who have potential – Denilson, Ramsey, Wilshire, Vela, Gibbs, Fabianski……. but then we have a lot of VERY average players – Diaby, Song, Almunia, Bendtner, Eboue (and I am trying to be kind in putting him in here), Gallas.

    When you assess it like this……. you understand why we keep seeing bad performances and results, because we simply do not have the top quality in depth to achieve consistancy and results.

    Now I don’t know if this is generally known but……..

    Wengers dream (or is it folly) of being able to build a young all conquering side failed at Monaco where he pretty much did the same as he is doing now at Arsenal ie. he won the French cupin 1991 & finsihed runners up in the league in 1991 & 1992 then he brought in young unknown players on the cheap …. mainly from Africa …. shipped out the experienced players …… dropped out of the top 4 and in 1994 after 3 tropkyless years the team started off badly and Wenger was sacked when his teams performances continued to deteriorate and they dropped to 14th in the table.

    Maybe that is all just coincidence??? But it looks to me as if maybe, just maybe AW dropped into the perfect situation at Arsenal with a team already on the rise and with just a bit of tweaking things went well..that is until Arsene then had to replace and build the side himself……… are we now seeing the true abilities (or failures) of Arsene Wenger….. where he is repeating the same mistakes he made before …….

    Who knows? like I said maybe it’s just coincidence, but Monaco had a sucessfull team who with Arsene as manager went into decline and they saw the light and sacked him before it was too late……. but even then it took them 5 more years to recover and win the French League again …….. lets hope we are not too blinded by his earlier success too see the “light” before it is too late for us!!!

  22. Stu

    We need a complete reshuffle of the squad. It will definatly cost a pretty penny but will be worth it for the better of the club.

    Out of the current squad I would only keep Fab, JD, Sagna, Clichy, (maybe Kolo as a squad player), Cesc, Nasri, Theo, Rosicky(if he ever wakes up), Vela, Nik(im one of the few that want him to succeed) and the thus far untested youngsters.

    Everyone else is replacable. Did I forget anyone??

  23. Big Raddy

    I agree anout Carew Pedro.

    It was just to make a point about how far we have to go to become contenders. I fear we need more than just 3 to compete.

  24. Me

    Wrighty 7….that’s just wishful thinking on my part. I think Wenger will be two 12 yr olds in January. Then he’ll do us a favor and sign a 13yr old keeper, a 15yrs old striker and a 4 yrs old defender in the summer….LOL!!!

    The whole spannish team sounds yummy though….lol

  25. marylandgunner

    Wrighty, I have missed your optimism. Dammit, where were you yesterday? I was sulking, eating junk food, crying in my pillow . . . my wife had to slap me.

    I too think that this is our year in the CL. I bet you we get Juve, and we beat them. Barca will go to Chelsea, and they will be out, and I will be happy again.

  26. Pedro

    Me, we don’t slag each other on here.

    Make you point but don’t accuse someone of not being a gooner.

    You said something that wouldn’t be backed by any gooner in the world… you got a bit of light hearted stick… so deal with it or tell us why he is one of the best.

    Seaman played in teams far worse than the current one.

    Almunia has been average all season, you can’t deny that… we’ve all seen the clangers.

  27. Big Raddy

    Me. I didn’t insult you – I insulted your opinion, which I happen to think is nonsense, As is your claim to know a decent player…. You may well be a brilliant bloke, you may be the finest looking man on the planet. You could even be as cool as Geoff and Pedro, BUT, you sure as hell do not know a great goalkeeper.

  28. Stu

    Seaman got us points but Almuni hasnt won us any points really. The highlight of his career has been saving a penalty against the Spuds but hasnt done much else that springs to mind.

  29. Wrighty7

    MarylandGunner!

    I was doing the same yesterday matey! I had the right hump but then a shining light came through the curtains and I………………………saw the light!

    Arsenal will be Champions League winners! Its GUNNER happen!

  30. Big Raddy

    That shining light Wrighty…… It didn’t happen at the end of the ‘hump’ did it ? Did it last about 7 seconds ? :-)

  31. marylandgunner

    Stu, that’s not entirely true. Last season (yes, it’s last year, but a valid point all the same), Almunia saved a penalty from Keane, and kept us in the game. He saved a huge penalty in the Villa game (yes we lost, but blocking a PK ain’t easy). He has made some great saves to keep us level, as he did in the Kiev game.

    He isn’t the greatest ever, but right now, there aren’t too many keepers that I would be looking to throw an Arsenal jersey on. Just my two cents.

  32. Me

    Pedro…if you saw his insult as “Light hearted stick” then why didn’t you give me the benefit of the doubt too? Bias maybe? Well since you asked, I saw seaman make so many mistakes in his time that i Loved him simply becos he played for my team. Lehman, in my opinion, was the worst keeper ever to play for Arsenal. He was a temperamental cry baby who always caused his team more harm than good. So he had one good season?

    And in all honesty, i’d rather have a boring-boring arsenal of old than a team that played like they did against Porto (young team right?), Stoke, Man City and even some of the games they ever won.

    Like i said, the only reason we are 4th is cos of Alminia’s saves. I’m not so that i’ve seen teams create chances against arsenal like they have this season. It’s shocking to watch. And, maybe gunners on here will not agree with me on Almunia but i know 1000s who agree.

  33. marylandgunner

    Wrighty, what I love about the CL (and hate) is that the victor has chance on his side. You have to play strategy, and we tend to fare well against European teams. If we can steer clear of the English teams, I think we have a genuine shot at the title . . . and Barca.

  34. Wrighty7

    Me,

    The only reason Arsenal are fourth mate is because we have been so inconsistent it’s untrue.

    Almunia hasn’t kept us from going any lower. He has been as inconsistant as the rest.

    THATS why we are fourth……..

  35. Wrighty7

    MarylandGunner,

    Our possession football suits the Champions League. It’s a far slower pace than the English Premiership and there is no team better in Europe than Arsenal at keeping the ball.

    You need the luck of the draw and people will say if Arsenal draw an English team, then we will struggle because they know how to play against us. I beg to differ.

    If a side resorts to the usual bully boy tactics employed by Premiership teams then the European referees will stamp down on it. The harsh tackles will not be allowed.

    Liverpool and Chelsea have knocked us out in the past but we outplayed them both in those ties. I’d say a great deal of luck enabled them to overcome us. Surely that luck would change?

    Successful sides are built on the foundations of a solid defence. The defence made up of Gallas, Djourou, Clichy and Sagna is more than solid enough to keep clean sheets.

    Arsenal always have goals in them. We can score against anyone, especially those crucial away goals.

    If we can keep it tight in the home games then we can beat anyone over two legs. Teams will not want to face us.

  36. Me

    No problem Pedro. We all just write our opinions here. Hell, Arsene will have the same players this weekend. In fact, he’s going to buy orlando clay next season (no one by that name by the way). An unknown player who is cheap and average. May even cost less than Silvestre. I just love me my Arsenal!!

  37. Stu

    Me…. I dont mean to be rude but if i could I would laugh in your face. The type of laugh that cant be helped no matter what! The type of blurting, spontaneous laugh that would easily make any contents of mu mouth spray onto you serious face! Lehmann, the worst keeper to play for Arsenal?!! I dont know every keeper to play for us but he certainly isnt near the worst. He won the FA cup final for us, went ubeaten in his first season with us (regardless of te defence) and despite his, at times, idiotic mistakes pulled off some amazing saves. Not to mention his CL clean sheet record.

  38. Me

    Wrighty 7 i beg to differ. We shouldn’t even be 4th if the truth be told. We have been blessed by the “big team” luck. You play bad and you win. Alminia has helped. he’s been inconsistent but not as much as the rest of the team. The outfield players make him look bad.

  39. Me

    Stu….laughing is good so laugh bra. So Lehman is a better Keeper than Friedle becos he won cups and friedel didn’t? So Henry was not one of the greatest strikers in the world cos he never won the World footballer or the Ballon Do’or? So Okocha is the the greatest player to player for Nigeria and Africa cos he didn;t win trophies and never won the African footballer Award? Pleaseeeee…….

  40. Pedro

    All sorted then me! Good to have you on board.

    I’m hitting bedforshire in a big way… have a great night everyone!

    Keep it goonerish ;-)

  41. Stu

    Jens made 2 mistakes last season and was duly dropped for the rest of the season, having to look on as Almunia unfairly took his place. Aside from those 2 errors, Jens only mistakes were to do with his temper, not is goalkeeping.

  42. Wrighty7

    Me,

    I dont think we have been blessed with “big team” luck my friend.

    Look at the amount of times we have played bad, I count at least 5 times and we were punished 5 times by horrible defeats that we deserved to lose every time.

    The fact is this Arsenal team is the easiest to play of the top four. Teams don’t fear us anymore.

    I don’t think the rest of the side make Almunia look bad, they haven’t helped but he has done that himself.

  43. Pedro

    Lehmann was one of the best keepers in the world for at least two seasons… his form was sensational… he was part of the invincibles, he got to a champions league final, won an FA Cup on his own, and got to the semis of a world cup!

    He is an achiever… Friedel is a failed liverpool keeper… a journeyman.

  44. Me

    Wrighty, we have played bad at least 50 times this season……oh yeah, we haven’t played that many games. We were so lucky against wigan it was painful to watch. So were we against Dynamo.And, that’s just to mention 2.

    I do agree that we are easy to play. Even Boro isn’t that easy to play. Neither is Everton, Portsmouth, hell…sunderland gave us a tough tough time. That’s based on tactics and players. Players who are slight and easily bullied. Everyone knows how to play us, the was Porto played us. Don’t give us space on the ball and we don’t know what to do. Mate, we’ve been lucky most times

  45. Stu

    Its a shame for Lehmanns sake that he didnt join a bigger club before us and that Kahn and he were the same age. But Jens got there eventually, shame he didnt win anything for Germany tho.

  46. marylandgunner

    Wrighty, spot on. What we saw at Porto on Wednesday was shambollock. It was a lack of desire, inconsistency of play, and a team that was not matched well to the game at hand.

    I agree with the European ref piece.

  47. Wrighty7

    BBK,

    What do you SERIOUSLY think Arsenal will achieve this season mate?

    I think if Mr Wenger signs a couple of players we can finish 4th comfortably maybe even 3rd.

    The Champions League, we will win it.

    The FA Cup, maybe win that as well. At least Semi-Finals.

    I’d be happy with that!

  48. BOY BETTER KNOW

    i think the fa cup is possible other then that top 4 is a must,cant see the league or champions league coming our way

  49. avenell

    Pedro… I have just and made you a christmas pressi, to say thanks for your time and effort

    I will e mail it up to you!!!!

  50. BOY BETTER KNOW

    this team lacks aduquate defensive stability in order to protect the back 4, without that there is no chance of silverware coming our way

  51. BOY BETTER KNOW

    if wenger identify’s a good ready made holding midfielder in jan then maybe other then that not holding my breath

  52. Stu

    Dont we need to win the FA cup season or is it next season. There is the new shit uefa rule that only the top3 will get the CL while the 4th spot goes to the FA cup winners. Stupid rule it may be but we still need CL football. Without it Wenger is sue to lose his job.

    Platini trying to fuck us over once again.

  53. Wrighty7

    Only the old storys mate like Alonso coming. I’d love that!

    Micheal P, a regular Grover, has said that there will be three signings in January. He has been told by someone at Arsenal but no names.

  54. avenell

    Stu… That’s not true..CL still goes to fourth place, but you have to beat a team from Italy or Spain or a higher ranked nation..

  55. raif

    Wrighty7 / BBK

    Are you Talking Music??

    if your into Underground Hip Hop i recommend

    ” Immortal Technique ”
    &
    ” Jedi Mind Tricks ”

    also Gnarls Barkley’s latest album (The Odd Couple) is very good.
    i believe the Genre is Neo soul

  56. Wrighty7

    Hey Raif!

    BBK/Raif

    I was looking at Youtube yesterday and found some blinding clashes. Wiley V Kano on Lord of the Mic was good.

    I love the Wiley/Lethal Bizzle clash.

    I thought Skepta’s Rolex Sweep would be bigger than what it was though.

  57. Stu

    Random question for everyone–

    If you were on a plane that crashes up in some mountains, it is freezing cold, many people die and there is no food at all. Surrounded by miles of nothing but snow and hills, with nobody knowing where ye have crashed – Would you resort to canabalism??

  58. BOY BETTER KNOW

    its electro wrighty they are trying to capitalise on that sort of genre wrighty.them clashes are really old now m8

  59. raif

    yeah man im sweet thanks.

    just checking the Comments as i play a bit of Football manager. and getting as much time to my self before babys Feed time hehe.

  60. Maciek

    Maybe if we end up outside the top 4 Wenger will wake up and start to act. Besides Villa, Everton many teams could be dangerous, and one day we will finish outside the top 4. That’s just the way it is. Look at Bayern Munchen- they finshed playing Uefa Cup, but soon they started acting and they moved on. They have bought many quality players, and now they are one of the favourites to the final glory in CL. If You buy many quality, experienced players, they can boost our team morale and make You a lot stroneger. If we, for example finsh outside the top 4, Cesc could leave. But it would be only because of the fact, that many of our players are average. But in the same situation, the same Cesc will stay if he will see some sort of ambition from our Club( for example Villa, Alonso, Arshavin).

  61. raif

    BBK – not really into Drum and Bass to be honest mate

    Stu – i couldnt give u a honest answer till im in the think of somthing like that.

  62. BOY BETTER KNOW

    just bought an advent calender from woolworths… all the windows were boarded up and there was fuck all inside!!!

  63. raif

    BBK or anyone else.

    would anyone know any decent Audio programs were i can turn a normal song into a Instrumental, as theres a few tunes i cant seem to find the instrumental far so the only way is to try and convert

  64. BOY BETTER KNOW

    Woolworths have just gone bust today! ive heard they are quicvkly rebranding under the name Woolsworthfuckall

  65. Wrighty7

    I’ve just had a proper freaky experience!!!!

    The missus is asleep, the cat is on the end of the bed, there is no else in the house and I heard banging footsteps coming up the stairs. Look out there and no-one!

    It’s not the first time either!

  66. raif

    BBK

    i’ve tried both. even Torrents. i even go as far into make them my self by puting the tune into a Audio editing program and just getting the parts i need and looping them. i do it alot for the YouTube video i have made.

    but some times it works very well and some times i just dont have enough of the beat

  67. Stu

    v.d.s is signing a new contract at united and he is what? About 38 and xtending his contract. I wonder how many years more he will get whereas Wenger wouldnt give Pires more than a year. More shit management styling by Wenger. Remember when Bergkamo only had a few months left and Wenger reluctantly offered him another year.

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