Let me start by saying I rate Gallas and I like him but enough is enough, so here’s my proposal Arsene.
Gallas shouldn’t resign, he should be sacked as captain because regardless of where he stands, he brought the team into disrepute and that for a captain of Arsenal football club is unforgivable and unacceptable.
You can’t give it to Kolo, regardless of how much he is liked because he’s not really a first choice anymore and he goes to the ACN every two years, so sorry but that’s not good enough.
Don’t give it to Gael because he is French and I think it’s time for a change, so for me it has to be Alexandre Song, he has the lot and he was signed on the basis of exceptional talent.
Of course I’m f**king kidding. Give it to Cesc, it may keep him, it will certainly fire him up, he is great with the press and stops rumours in their tracks, f*ck the age, if he’s good enough, he’s old enough.
Now we’ve done that to death let’s move onto the big game today, jeez, it’s been a long wait, always of course made longer by a defeat, we got beat, there’s nothing we can do so let’s move on and put it right, by now Gallas may have been dropped so I’m going for a team without him, if he plays drop Kolo and put him in his place, so from the back.
Fabianski, as Almunia was shit last time and the time before the time before that, work that one out and you’ll know what’s coming next.
Hoyte Djourou Kolo Clichy
Ramsey Diaby Denilson Nasri
Ade RVP
Go for the jugular because this lot will, Robinho will want to show Wenger what he could have had, had he offered him more than 17 shillings and sixpence a week a few years ago, but Real got him instead.
They will not sit back, and I can’t see them mixing it, I think they like to play football, so attack boys, attack.
To finish on Gallas, he has said that if he leaves Arsenal it will be to go back to France, but only to PSG, Bordeaux or Marseilles and who do we know that plays at Marseilles? Spot on, Cana, so why not a little player plus cash deal and now, in January, whilst Gallas is still in his prime? That’s win, win then is it not? we get rid of the awkward issue with Gallas, we get in the animal we all crave, he’s not French and Wenger doesn’t lose face by backing down, and we’ll throw in Alexandre Song as part of the deal as he has exception talent, how can they refuse?
The thing is the minute he takes away the captaincy is the moment the player can no longer play for us and that’s why he didn’t do it last summer, Gallas has a few years left in him but with the emergence of Djourou and maybe even the improvement of Senderos next season, he can at last afford to let him go, bringing in a Cana or a Velosa gives Wenger options, gives us the much needed steel with lost with Flamini’s departure and gets rid of the disruptive influence in the changing room, whoever is at fault, and I take no sides, something is wrong and something needs to be done.
Le Grove is now smart phone compatible!
Pedro
Geoff
1
2nd
missed by a secod or two….:)
3rd?
That’s like not winning the EPL Rookie, second gets you nothing!
aren’t kolo and ade both out according to most reports??
Good riddance to him. He should have been sacked after Birmingham.
Ade maybe because of his long flight.
Ade has apparently re-injured his ankle.
spot on Geoff and he has been striped off captaincy probably the only right decision Arsene has taken this year….
ahh ok, lineup seems pretty spot on then, mebe play rambo more central and RVP as a right winger.
i will deflower the comments section one day…lols…
if Ade is not fit, i’d go for Either Simpson to play next to RVP, or Wilshere to come in on the left and play Nasri just off RVP, after last weeks performance Bendtner shouldn’t start
I thought kolo was definately injured. Maybe I misheard.
I don’t understand why Wenger hasn’t made a statement, every national newspaper now says he been tin tacked, what is it with Arsenal?
great article geoff, i was really impresed when i read it!
Yeah, kolo has a calf injury.
Good Post tho
Geoff
Why does wenger have to go public. Keep those media pricks guessing now. its none of their business anyway.
even sky sports showed the video of team getting Off the bus and there was no Gallas….
may be he wants to wait until after the game Geoff…
morning alll….
kolo is out.. not in the squad
Thanks boys, let’s hope it comes true eh!
Yep top post Geoff. I love it, on match day
Out of respect for us Gnarley, we have the right to know.
hoyte dj silvest clichy
simpson denilson diaby nasri
rvp nicklasss
Simpson’s not a midfielder Choy.
you got my vote cesc to lead us to glory.
we’re gonna stuff citeh!
True Geoff, true. But i think we all have a pretty good idea Chamoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!
he played there the whole of last season on loan geoff!!!
Geoff goonertalk has given the following line up as officia
lAlmunia
Hoyte – Djourou – Silvestre – Clichy
Diaby – Denilson – Song – Nasri
Bendtner – van Persie
Subs:
Fabianski, Gibbs, Lansbury, Wilshere, Ramsey, Vela, Simpson
Young guns and Arseblog has also confirmed that he has been sacked and hoyte and lansbury have been included through reliable sources..
Geoff not only respect but we pay the wages.Time for all of us to get behind the team more than ever,even if the team is in disarray.We must unite
Cesc for me, its as if it was meant to be. If Wenger is serious about bringing a new crop through, the natural leafer is a 21 year old called Cesc. Generation Y is good afterall D:
Hands up, if you love Arsene, Hands up if you love Arsene
*leader sorry, got a bit excited there
who does everyone think should be captain for todays game? my vote goes to Clichy, seeing as Cesc is injured, and Fabianksi should start instead of Almunia
I can’t wait for the game to start
* suspended
Rookie, I’d go along with that line up except.
I’d stick ramsey on the right, put diaby in the middle and drop song.
may be he has put song in due to a bit inexperience in the defense and he will play as cover for defense
Morning Grovers!
So has it been officially announced yet?
Good post Geoff… I would prefer us to swap him for Chiliieni, because I am sure he wanted to play in Italy before we nicked him.
So… what are people predicting today score wise?
I think it could be quite a high scoring match. I reckon it’ll be the same sort of game as the manure one. They can’t defend, we can’t defend, lets go for the fuckers.
By the way, I hate mark hughes.
Pedro if he can swap him for chielini it would be getting gold for shit….
2-4 Pedro
4 nil, morning Pedro, make Clichy captain for the day and vice captain for the season, ship Gallas and Song out to Marseille and bring in Cana.
No it’s not official but did you expect that from Arsenal?
I know vela has had a hell of a long flight but he only played half an hour in midweek cos he got sent off.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=594795&sec=england&cc=3436
Thats official for me. i rate ESPN Soccernet
paul was’nt that at the end of the match????
On arsenal tv last night they said 31 mins.
morning all….are we going to win?
The captaincy could rekindle the “fire & brimstone’ back into to Cesc. It goes without saying that Tony Adams was 21 years old when he grabbed the armband
Vela only came off the bench for mexico i think
Maybe vela came off the bench played 31 mins then got sent off near the end. I presumed they meant he started then got sent off.
Anyway, he had quite an easy game. It’s just the flight really.
Evening evo
I ‘m not sure to be honest. My bet is a draw, but we won’t lose. That doesn’t sound like a truely loyal call i know, but I think we will win long term
“we may not win the battle, but we will win the war”
great post geoff. Arsenal.com havent put anything up about it shock!!!! how shite is that site… they are probably waiting for wenger to make a statement. but why he hasnt made a statement to let the fans know what is going on i dont know…..
as far as i ve heard he got sent off at the end of the match a challenge which did not deserve sending off but the poor condition of the pitch and coupled with the player pretending as if he was shot it made difficult for ref to spare him….vela looked surprised when he saw red…
Geoff, I’d like to see Clichy made captainl… oh, Perry Groves agrees with us!
He is rarely injured, leads by example and he is one of the best in the world in his position.
+ I saw him bollock Ade the other day… and someone needs to!
He is Arsenal through and through!
The Cana swap scenario for Gallas, etc in january would be a ripper
Thanks for clearing that up rookie.
Great post Geoff – and couldnt agree more
My team would be
Almunia ( only becuase i think gallas has pissed him off recently and he could be back to his best )
Hoyte JD Silvestre Clichy
Nasri Diaby Denilson Ramsey
RvP Ade ( if Ade injured, Nik/Vela/Simpson)
I know I rattled on yesterday about Gallas, but I really feel that he been the bad apple. The cause of the dodgy performances by Cesc Kolo Theo, Almunia and RvP – yes, all the non french players. Today is when our season really begins, and the players are now free of that whinging old git.
Gallas mate Claude is also at PSG, so I think he will off in January, and on gardening leave until then.
Gallas can NOT play another game for us, remember, he threatened to score an own goal for chelsea, i didnt really believe that then, but i sure as heck do now, having seen his juvinille behaviour…
1 – 3 for me, and i cant wait
id bet happy with Cesc, Almunia or clichy!
so the same old routine continues…..saturday….head to the pub….come home…..if we’ve lost the week before….swear i wont watch this weeks game.
pressure builds….a few beers and i watch the game!
i wonder if that will happen….so far on course!
Pedro, he’s French and I am fed up with French captains, we’ve had three already.
Ripper would be ripper Gnarley!
Great, Song is starting. He is the new Eboue, and you see him starting and think ‘we’re not gonna win this game’. There’s obviously ability there, so he’s gotta be walking down last chance avenue: he has to step up and show us he deserves to wear the shirt
So what for Gallas: fined two week’s wages, left out the squad and stripped of the captaincy. Considering the manager’s previous indulgence of him, poor form, poor behavious and his ‘motivational’ rants (‘member that one before the Liverpool game in the CL?), it seems like an over-reaction. For all his finger-pointing, for me he has been the negative influence in the dressing room and that has been discussed on here before. I think this effectively ends his Arsenal career and I expect him to go in January. He’ll have to take a pay cut to do it, unless Man City buy him (who supposedly are after Kolo). Maybe we can get Richards in return, who is having a poor season but may rediscover his England form playing in the red and white of his beloved Arsenal.
Or maybe not.
It’s been one hell of an ugly season to watch so far for us. We’ve lurched from great moments of sublime football, when the AKBs came jabbing us with their told-you-so fingers, to amateur hour at the Hackney Empire, with our soft underbelly brutally exposed, when we jabb back with greater vigour. I think everything that has been discussed on this blog from the end of last season and all over the summer has been entirely justified and those that directed such malice and abuse towards us and the author’s, Pedro and Geoff, should hang their heads in shame.
Thing is, as much as we love Wenger and what he has done for the club, his judgement seems badly flawed. His transfer policy has become idiosyncratic and stubborn: he seems determined to build these flimsy teams and is very poor at recruiting players with steel and mental strength. His teams do give delight, but with no end product he has to face facts and buy some nutters (not Gallas nutters, but Paddy/Roy Keane nutters). The ’98 side was as tough as old boots, and the 2004 side would mix it with the best. Those sort of teams win things, the latest incarnations don’t and won’t unless something changes.
Sorry for the extended rant: been away and haven’t had chance to post so you get about a week’s worth of thoughts
Alexandre Song as Captian hahahaha, that one got me good.
give it to Cesc. it seems like the only option in all honesty
I think we will hear from AFC after the game today – he wont want millions of questions when we have an away game – he will want to spend what precious time he has raising the morale of the players, not that should take very long now -
Two players down, Walcott long term injury, Gallas because he clearly doesn’t want to play for Arsenal anymore. We NEED two more players in the transfer window. In fact 3 because we cannot expect Rosicky to recover to schedule, if he does, we’ll have a surplus player in summer, better than being short.
Michael P reckons the club is already on the case, the sooner the better.
We’re down to the bare bones now, so who could start today?
Song at right back? Hopefully Gavin Hoyte, we don’t have any other options.
—————–Almunia—————-
G.Hoyte——-Djourou———-Silvestre———-Clichy
Wilshere/Nasri——–Ramsey/Song/DenilsonDiaby——–Ramsey/Song/DenilsonDiaby———-Nasri/Denilson/Diaby/Vela
———–RVP——–Adebayor———
Who will play on one of the wings?
Worst case scenario midfield, Diaby/Denilson on left wing and Song in the middle.
We can still win this one, I’ll go for a 2-1 away win, their defence is sloppy, worse than ours. I don’t think Dunne or Kompany would have sorted our defence out, we need someone better than them.
The good thing is, Wenger now accepts that stop gap players are OK if we get them on the cheap, Silvestre being the one who changed the situation. At 30 or 31 there is still room to offer fully fit veteran players two year contracts.
i highly predict it will be Song at CB and Toure at RB
Toure is not available to play today.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/calf-strain-to-sideline-toure-for-man-city
Gallas made these comments thursday lunchtime he is supposed to have been stripped of the captaincy and dropped for todays match.
Why the fuck has Arsene Wenger made no official comment, nothing on Arsenal.com Just pure speculation which Man City will be rubbing their hands thinking we are there for the taking.
I have no problem with Gallas comments I read the article and agreed with them. As I mentioned he told us the truth.
Maybe Arsene, The Board and the rest of the players can’t handle that.
Well said Jimmy, thing is Wenger has made Galas captain, seen his fuck ups and now needs to put his hands up, he screwed up, go and buy 2 players in the window, Cana for me and Richards for the centre back.
No Song though, he’s not good enough, you got it wrong making Gallas captain, don’t keep getting it wrong with Song, everyone can see he’s not good enough.
Al it wasn’t whether or not he was right, he shouldn’t have said it in public. That was wrong.
Nice post,straight to the point geoff. a few questions.what nationality is cana.
if nasri had a go at gallas at the euros,and nic and ade had a bust up at spurs nearly ten months ago,why hasn’t this been revolved by now.apparently theo and rvp got a bollocking by gallas at half time against spurs a few weeks ago.a captain is meant to be the mouthpiece of the manager on the field.too many arrogant egoistic players to control can’t be good for morale if there is any.gallas on 9ok,Ade on 85k and now RVP wants 80K.madness sheer madness.
today i would expect almunia to be captain as a one off,and I would like to see simpson,randall wilshere and ramsey at least feature.
oh well fly nigel winterburn and TA into replace sagna and kolo and we should be fine. or Senderos….
Why did he say these things to the press and not to them? Why do they have to hear his comments second hand? That’s the issue with Gallas.
As captain he disclosed that he is unable to rally the troops, and he is not prepared to stand up for his team in the face of criticism, he is completely unsuitable, the vast majority of Premier League viewers are surprised that it has taken so long to replace Gallas as captain.
the arm band has been nothing other than a curse !
giving it to cesc could be a double edged sword ..
however thats probably what management will do to try and keep hold of him
i feel its a mistake but then who else can you give it too ?
maybe almunia ? it might give him the extra 15 % he needs to become reasonable ..
or maybe give it too theo’s mate RVP !
finest – that is the crux of all this – feel free to have your opinion, but keep it in house, not in the press – he has been a disgrace to our club, MOTD Talksport and all those other idiots will just love all this – Bastards! (sorry)
It didn’t do Tony or Paddy any harm, I think it will inspire Cesc and lift the team, but he has to let Gallas go and he needs to replace him.
Cana is Albanian Kelsey.
The captaincy has to go to Kolo Toure.
People will say that he has not been performing this season – and rightly so. But how much of this loss of form is attributed to:
a) the Toure-Gallas partnership not working
b) Toure being unhappy
Over the past 5 years, Toure has been our most consistent performer, one of the 1st players on the team sheet and no one can question his passion. He has been dropped from the team because he had to drop one of Toure or Gallas – an the captain cannot be dropped.
Almunia is a keeper – I think it was Liam Brady that said GKs are not suitable to lead a team – I agree with him.
The rest of them (namely Fabregas and Clichy) are not ready in my opinion.
Get Kolo back in the team, give him the armband and he will lead the team to success.
PS. Forget Alberto Mendez, Francis Jeffers, Richard Wright and Igors Stepanovs – Wenger’s biggest regret must be William Gallas.
My biggest Wenger regret is still here, Alex Song. Kolo is not even first choice any more Dr Gooner, you can’t make someone captain if there not first on the teamsheet.
fuck cesc couldnt even run his own tv show ..
he looked like a spectator on a show that bared his name !
sorry but if you cant even voice your own opinion on your own tv show , i think it will be a disaster n the making .
Also how old was paddy and adams when they wore the armband geoff ?
he is still in footballing nappies .. oh .. shit …
the season couldnt get any worse anyhow !
might as well give it too him …
Dr Gooner
nothing can be more worse then Igors Stepanovs. sorry,
Ethan Adams was 21!
so do we reckon Gallas refused to travel or Wenger banned him?
Stepanovs was awesome!
Sky reporting Gallas arrives at training ground,not sure what that means though
I dont think letting gallas go will be the issue !
im sure gallas has had enough , and too me that represents how harder job it is too do
with these young head strong lads !
good luck cesc, your gonna fuckin need it !
i reckon gallas could start perhaps….there’s no one else really
maybe JD…
CHIM CHIMINEE CHIM CHIMINEE CHIM CHIM CHEROO
FUCK OFF BILLY GALLAS COS WE’VE GOT DJOUROU
paul
it means Sky are clutching onto straws in terms of trying to keep the story alive.
—-
Evo in Oz
Stepanovs was awesomely Dreadful
Doublegooner
HAHAHAHAHA that one is a excellent. im going to sing that on Tuesday
I was thinking that as well Evo, if he drops him today he might as well not play him for the rest of the season.
double gooner – great song mate, ive just copied that into my mobile
luzhny was good too
Geoff unless we strengthen this side the captaincy would be a curse
Neil is Gay
If its true Gallas is out the back door I believe we are gona miss him BIG TIME and our chance of winning anything (CL) has now ended. He has been outstanding & its the flamini roll we are missing out on. I dont agree with what Gallas has done if its true but this is bad for our club believe me.
The fact that some of you maybe laughing this story off, u wont laugh be laughing much longer im sure.
until gallas started scoring those headers for us we had zero goals from defence. none.nada
My take is the team is all young, Cesc is a father figure, middle aged and I think the team would respond to him in a big way, and he will too.
All this billy big bollocks talk of youngsters showing respect, fuck off, that was why they all hated Henry, that attitude is like Victorian parent, the only people I ever respected were people that were as good as me, not because they were older.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=sGQESu5AFtI
STEVIE:
Did you actually want us to keep him after this ??
this just goes to prove how badly run our club is
Expect more barren years
History Repeats Itself? (First as a tragedy, then as a farce?)
In November, the team’s season was apparently already in the toilet. There were numerous injuries to key players, and they had just come off a humiliating league defeat. The team was apparently facing another trophyless season; if it ended up that way, it would make for the longest run without silverware in years. That was when the captain decided to mouth off–not just once, but twice. He criticized teammates by name, including the ones who “think” they’re “superstars” because of their high wages, but don’t put in consistent effort. Almost as an aside, the captain also talked about moving on to a new club once his current contract ran out.
At that point, the manager who had placed such trust in the captain couldn’t take any more. Within two weeks of stripping him of his captaincy, the club reached an agreement with the player to dissolve his contract.
Despite the club’s shock elimination from the Champion’s League before the end of the group stages (defeated by a Portuguese club), they went on to win the League Cup, thus avoiding two successive years without a trophy for the first time in 17 campaigns. This was followed by back-to-back league titles in 2006/7 and 2007/8.
After they dissolved the captain’s contract that autumn, the manager and chief executive wished the player well and agreed to hold a testimonial for him at the end of the season. With all proceeds going to the Guide Dogs Association, it was the highest-attended such match in English history.
What odds from William Hill for a Gallas testimonial at the Emirates next May?
Doublegooner, all i know is from what Ive read in the paper….i tend to take the paper with a pinch of salt but if this IS true then yer he dont have much choice i guess.
Dg – love that little ‘Song’
ethan – i have to disagree re cesc – having your own footie show is very different, he was out of his comfort zone, football is his life, and his love, and at the moment he loves Arsenal. And i know i keep repeating myself, but if Lttle Willy (no longer a big willy
) has been having a pop at all the players, then i am not surprised at the way we have performed so far this season.
honestly, I feel that tonne of bricks that has been on all the teams shoulders has suddenly been removed, and i hope freedon comes back into our game. That includes Cesc. I think giving him the armband would get his game back, his head back in tune… For me he is the next captain with kolo or almunia as his miami vice
I’d love to see Cesc as our Captain. No matter what anyone says, he’s a great player, and can really grab the game by the horns and make us a dominant force again.
I thought Gallas was great, but he is to coin a phrase ‘the king of inconsistancy’
But this situation will force Wenger’s hand, we now HAVE to by in January. It’s just a case of who, and how many : )
Can’t wait for the game today!
Good Old Arsenal! We’re Proud to sing that name!!!
Maybe what Michael p heard was right about the xtra ordinary meting last sunday about signing 3 new experienced players,as obviously the gallas tantrums were known about within the club.
i think the player who clashes most with gallas is adebayor,he ticks all the right boxes,ok he is nearly 25.
stevie – i believe the opposite to your views, no offence. I think we now have a chance of doing well. BUT that is if we get the right players in January, and MP’s tip off is starting to sound very promising….
Gallas at the Training ground then, maybe AFC will terminate his contract and he can go to PSG – dont know if that is legal though in footie
actually, I would like to hear the truth rather than ‘the team are united’ ‘morale is high’ from arsene
I dont care who the next captain to be honest. i want to see us lift the prem league or CL trophy. i doubt its gonna happen tis season. its sad
Welcome Wangdangdoodle! Rico you can do loan deal at anytime. No window there.
I know the Sun newspaper is not to be trusted, but they report a bust up with Nik and Gallas – so all you Nik lovers, that could be the reason for his downward spiral too
Geoff – Can AFC sack him, reports are that he has been told he wont play again ?
Geoff good post and totally agree with your 10.31 post, football is not about respecting your elders, it is about being a team and being loyal to each other, regardless of age. WG was not loyal to his teammates, he threw a hissy fit at regular intervals. But he is gone to all intents and purposes so I’m moving on.
Cesc as captain – inspirational maybe, mentally strong enough? He has shown another battling side to his game at times this season, but has also not always been on form… the captaincy might be a bit early for him. I don’t agree with all that using the captaincy as bait crap.
Clichy – I like him a lot, I have a lot of time for him, his comments to the media have always been far more worthy of a captain than anyone elses. Bad position on the pitch for a captain, but not impossible. I think he would rise to the challenge especially without the stropmeister alongside him.
Almunia – Well liked by the team, has shown some good form this season, I wouldn’t like him as the long term option but I think he would be a good stop-gap solution. It would also make him stand a couple of inches taller and I think he would grab the chance with both hands.
Ade – too stupid
Van P – too injured/psychotic
Rosicky – too institutionalised
Sylvestre – too fishy/manc
Eboue – actually….. no I’d better not go there
Morning Seb – we finally disagree, re cesc- tee hee
At least Gallas was honest not like a lot of the cowards at Arsenal … it’s no good telling us there’s a great team spirit and they are all together when it has been apparant for months there are big heads in the club that hate each other and don’t gel as a team. Geoff …getting rid of Gallas won’t get rid of the disrtuptive element in the dressing room they will remain cos their Arsene’s favourites.
At last his big mouth has got him sacked. Mind you it is the only way Arsene would have dropped him. As most blogs will know I have been absolutely against his signing then his captaincy, and sadly he has been allowed to ruin a potentially great team. I am not going to list ALL the games where he was 100% responsible for us suddenly falling behind when outplaying a lesser side but the points alone would have won us the title easily last season. So bloody good riddens.
Now Arsene we need, deserve and want some major changes….ie; carry on in a big way the UK buys like Ramsey. Do not allow the odd million £ to be used as an excuse to lose out. West Ham are in a mess go and buy Collinson….Buy as many of the young Welsh side you can.
The sell the overrated players we have..ie; Eboue, Gallas, Almunia, Bentner, and Traore…..with this money you could bring in a real centre back…..a UK Goalie….and bust the bank for Delph. There you go easy! Mind you unlike the pillock above….I think Song is to make it…….lets see.
Rico yes he can be sacked, but they’d have to pay him, the easiest thing is to say, you won’t play for us again and loan him out, we’d have to pay half his wages though as no French team could afford his £90k a week, which makes Galla’s point that the kids are money mad a fucking joke, what and he’s not???
Cheers Seb.
I am a bit torn on the Captaincy,
Part of me says give it Cesc,
But despite Toure’s poor form, I think he may get back to his best if he is allowed to build a partnership with Djourou. I think a lot of Toure’s poor form has been down to him being too similar to Gallas and when both were fit neither seemed to be droppable.
Get in Yaya, Barry or Cana in Jan and we are looking pretty good.
And get rid of the other trouble maker RVP in Jan and get in Huntelaar or Villa and we are looking very very good.
I know we have been in transition or at least it seems like it for 3 years, but lets make sure this is the last one, root out the bad and build some harmony and team spirit, and get the boys enjoying their football again.
pete – who’s the pillock, Gallas ?
Well there is no doubt in my mind that Wenger is going to play Song and it will give us IMO a real chance to see if the West Ham game was a fluke or if he really is as bad as many people on this site believe. Although, I add the previso that if Wenger plays him at right back I will write tomorrow’s head line “Song is shit and should be sold” I just hope that people are a little more objective if he plays at DM.
———-Almunia
Hoyte,Djourou,Sylvestre,Clichy
———–Song
——Denilson,Diaby
—-RVP,Bentner,Nasri
This is assuming that Adebayor and Vela aren’t fit to start. Almunia will be captain today.
This is still a very good team: more than capable of beating City
rico01 You dont agree Gallas has been outstanding for us? You dont believe we are gona miss his talent ON the pitch(not his outbursts off it)? And by the way getting the right players in january is all too late im afraid we will will be out of the premiership challenge like we practically are ALREADY. Recently I thought our best chance of winning something big would be CL cos the style suits us & we currently play like a cup side (liverpool of old when they won it), but now i doubt that….look at the rest od the big team’s captains, they are stong characters with experience, Gallas was our version of that.
Thanks Geoff, I had hoped they could, and i hope they will. Maybe thats why he is at the training ground…
Mark Cesc, RVP and most of the young players always say the spirit is great, it’s only Gallas that seems to have a problem.
Song should be sold with a number of average players in the window.
Oh and sell Song too.
I think letting someone else be the captain that Gallas is a step ion the right way.
I have never thought much of him as an captain..he simply doesnt inspire the people…
he rather slag them off and moan.
I would be really happy if he didnt play again for us
JD ur time has come to show what you are made off..
On the new captain..I reckon it will be Cech
still a worrying thing,i dont see any real leader that can get the team going,while its not going our way
lets face it no Adams/Vieira types in this squad
Haha rico, well I’m just not convinced at the moment, he has been such a battler and a fighter for the cause in the past, but I would need a few games in the post-WG era to see whether his mood and form improves drastically, or whether he is in fact pining for Barca and his old chum Hleb. Only then would you know if he is up to the task of leading our merry band of babies
stevie – in a word, No
JD has mor speed than Gallas, and played alongside Silvestre or Kolo, i honestly think the defence will be more organised and confident
Fair comment Seb – i have a cunning feeling that he will soon be back to his old self
I bet Sylvestre is gutted about his international partner… I bet he only came to London for a two year jolly with Billy. That and the better weather
Is it a coincedence that two of our worst ever captains Henry and Gallas have come at a point when our team has been 3rd and 4th best in the league?
rico I hope you are right! Nothing would give me greater pleasure, especially once Eduardo is back, we will rock then….
Cesc – through ball
Eduardo – goal
Cesc – through ball
Eduardo – goal
repeat for 90 minutes
What has RvP done to be a trouble maker pat, i have obviously missed that
i.e. in the wenger era
Seb – music to my ears, not my singing though
Seb – little willg has slated the french team too, so i guess he wont be playing for them now either
im going for a lie down prior to the game. laters
I dont get wrong I rate JD highly! Hes been superb when hes been given the chance, we will have to wait & see but i stick by my opinion!
wenger will probably give the captaincy too silvestre seb…
knowing his love for frenchmen
According to some reports he is the one that people were complaining about and basically told Gallas to go fuck himself when confronted.
He is also renowned for being a moody grumpy unlikeable person. I am probably biased as I whilst I think on his is day he shows brilliance but is too inconsistent for me. I dont think he has done anything for the club, has never scored more than 13 in a season and does not deserve the contract being mooted about.
I would rather have an extra 20k a week on the wage bill by buying Villa and I think we both agree on that.
I dont think our mix of strikers is either right or good enough if we want to compete
I don’t want to talk about WG any more tbh, it’s done and dusted and we are moving forward. Even if we lose today, it will only be a temporary blip, and I don’t expect us to anyway.
But as a last word…
WG is a real enigma. He has undoubted ability as a defender, but very little brain. He has been good enough to play for his country, but has created controversy everywhere he has gone (that is undeniable, whether any allegations about him are true or not). If he had joined us say in 2001 or 2003, would he have fitted in smoothly surrounded by quality and experience? Or would he have caused friction if he felt he wasn’t getting enough respect? We’ll never know I guess – but all that matters is that we get our team back together again, and the next week or two should reveal if that is the case. I am optimistic that we will
rico
hows the guinea pig that looks like a chinchilla ?
Sorry to put the cat amongst the pigeons chaps but im in the Gallas camp, i think if half the players showed as much passion as Gallas does when we lose we would be in a far better position than we are. IF there is a problem in the dressing room as our EX captain suggests, then i think he was correct in highlighting it ,although i dont agree with the way he did it, airing our laundry in public, and if RVP is the problem then this explains our over achievment last season considering he was injured for the majority of the matches, we cant afford to have a player who thinks hes bigger than the club and undermines the development of the younger players!
Finally just to say, i think weve just lost the best deffender we had, and one i believe would have built a formidable partnership with Silvestre, Cesc for captain
Arsenal dot fucking com , simply a brilliant informative web portal for anything that is arsenal !
hahaha !
ethan – all four are just lovely thanks, they are on the kitchen table, in a cage of course, whilst their room is being cleaned. They are busy pooping and piddling!
thanks pat – i really think we are missing Dudu, he gives us something very different, and yes i would love Villa, RvP needs to have a whole season without injury to prove his worth. He is having a bad time right now, but no-one is doing well upfront. We do need an out and out goal scorer, im hoping Simpson will be that player in the next season or two, but in the meantime we need one of our strikers to hit form.
No probs stevie – your opinion is yours, and you are entitled to it
Geoff …I think that was my point … players and Wenger telling us that there is a great team spirit but on the pitch we have seen for months this is not the case. Team spirit isn’t forged by headbutting a team mate. These players say these things because they are paid by Arsenal to toe the line and spray the spin….. at least Gallas had the guts to be honest with us.
Morning Grovers… I posted this last night…
WILLIAM GALLAS….
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DKmJPnAGUJk
Morning ave – thats made me chuckle
New Zealand have won the Rugby World Cup, beating the Aussies 34-20, Shocker!
Morning Rico..
Are you watching the game today or things to do?
n4
i agree , wenger comes out on friday and says this !
Arsène Wenger is confident that his players have enough technical ability to challenge for the title. Now he wants them to prove they have sufficient mental strength too.
Gallas comes out and tells us the truth !( on the same day)
i think the fans need to know !
we all complain like bitches on here , saying no one ever tells us shit , and then the moment
someone has the gonads too !
we burn him for it !
he is not the best captain in the world admittedly, but he is our most senior player and the only one with a winning mentality .and can say he has been there and done it before on more occasions most recently .. and now we have to pick from 19-21 year olds who have never won anything other than 5th division in the pools ..
to be honest i dont think he said things that most of us on here dont know already ..
remember honesty is the best policy ..
the fans pay money .. they have a right to know !
Ahahaha check out Cashley’s new project!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7743044.stm
I is like a gangstaa brrrraap brrrraap innit
Gallas is all the talk.
But lets not forget that he ia another one of Arsene’s mistakes in the last 3 years.
I think many of us are now really hoping that he will now start admitting ( at least to himself will do) thos mistakes & start repairing what’s needed to get the club on the playing side back on track.
PS. was very told yesterday that a recent CEO interviewee who was seriously considered, had to ask the board inc Wenger what they actually wanted from him & the role as he seriously believed that there were different people wanting different things from that person. To no suprise he was also interviewed by Wenger.
I hope to watch it on a link, but i seem to have trouble finding one each week, and i am not the best on computers – what about you?
After the horrible comments i got from a certain blogger last saturday, i thought i would make sure i watch the game
(joking of course, i always try to watch)
Ade and Kolo aren’t playing today.. The team will look like this:
Almunia
Hoyte – Djourou – Silvestre – Clichy
Diaby – Denilson – Song – Nasri
Bendtner – van Persie
Subs:
Fabianski, Gibbs, Lansbury, Wilshere, Ramsey, Vela, Simpson
Check here rico, nearer the game there should be more links
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=24370&part=sports
The ones that say MediaPlayer are probably best if you don’t have a third party program like Sopcast or TvU on your computer. They often link to a channel on justin.tv, the streaming quality can vary and often depends how many people are using that channel, but just try another if you have problems
Personally I always use Sopcast and I find it very user friendly and reliable.
I’m going to watch it on a stream if I can Rico..
Why do fans have a right to know what goes on behind closed doors at Arsenal, Arsenal don’t take money off the fans with a gun against there head.
People have a choice at the start of the season to go and support there club, if they don’t like it they won’t go again.
You will find a link here Rico but they usually dont get populated until an hour before the game. I seem to get best results watching through Sopcast but it all depends how quick your Broadband connection is in the first place
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=24370&part=sports
Sorry Link
Rico… i wouldnt worry about that idiot, i dont think he has commented since.
Seb… do you have to download sopcast software first?
Thanks Seb – thats when i get so confused, i get told to download sopcast, and then my pc security says its been found to cause problems and recomends i dont download. But most of you guys have said sopcast is safe….
I should heve been born blonde when it comes to computer stuff!
ave – agree, off field stuff should be kept behind closed doors, all i really want to know is who we are going to sign and when…. I will be a long time waiting
Thanks andy – but i have seen his name crop up in the week, it maybe a different one though if that is possible – he was just so rude and couldnt een be bothered to read what i actually wrote…
we can all kick him up the arse if he comes on again!
some one here said that if we loan him to france we may have to pay half of his wages because french clubs cannot pay his wages…..then loan him to madrid they need a defender as well and i don’t think Gallas will have any problem with that…All parties will be happy
andy
avenell
because there are reasons for flat performances people pay good money too see each week and wenger is tight lipped on the subject ..
remember its our club too !
if it wasnt for the fans this club wouldnt be what it is today ..
also how can telling the truth be a bad thing ???
Morning all, is Kolo not injured? Thought he was.
I missed it last week as my Spud mate came down to stay, so we didn’t talk or watch football, but we will stick together this week.. and we are away so Geoff/Pedro should be able to keep a watchful eye.
YES DOWNLOAD SOPCAST from http://www.sopcast.com
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=24370&part=sports
once its fully installed click on the SopCAST links too the game on the above webpage
it will boot automatically ..
make sure your link is 1-2 + megs ..
512k is more frustrating than anything .. and your best going to justintv.com if your speed isnt fast enough ..
pat your link it that okay to use without having any extra downloads on your p.c.i amm not that good on p.c.
just listened to frank mcclintock and he said it is either rvp or ade and that rvp had a go at theo during the spurs half tim.
now the whole media are saying we will not finish op four and that gallas should have lost the captaincy in the summer.
well im off too the sleazy wine bars too see some tits .. opps i mean the game
caio !
Ethan It’s like showing your hand at cards!
If you have a meal in a resturant, do you need to know if the waitress is shagging the chef because you have paid good money?
how do you get sopcast in simple english please
avenell got me thinking there as long as they both washed their hands
Gallas should have lost the armband ages ago, in the summer before all this bullshit started.
It s a wierd time to take it off him thought, especially given that we have so many injuries in defence and he was versatile. I understand why Wenger did it but the timing was bad and he could have played at RB. I say could have because we all know he would just have a strop if he didnt get to play at CB.
Mark but we never had the headbutting problem before he joined us, all we had was the Henry stare, like with Reyes.
Seems to me like French arrogance and I’ve had enough, time for the latino temperament!
Rico, I’m on all day, if anybody bothers you I’ll have them off, never to return.
Kelsey you can download sopcast here
http://www.download.com/SopCast/3000-13632_4-10601520.html
When the kids played in the CC, was Gallas there watching with the other first teamers?
I don’t remember seeing him..
Good post today Geoff..
Isnt it a load of bolocks that the 2 Coles, Lampard and 1 of Shrek or Donkey are playing today. Its made worse by the fact that Theo went, got injured and didnt even fucking play.
Hi Kelsey,
You can download and install Sopcast from here
http://www.download.com/SopCast/3000-13632_4-10601520.html
Then you go to this page
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=24370&part=sports
The Channels are listed at the bottom, you are looking firstly for one that has a Sopcast link and then one with English Commentary and you will see some with (EN) after the title. You are then looking at the Bitrate. The higher the Bitrate the better the quality.
Then Click on the play button to the right of Sopcast and it should automatically open Sopcast and buffer the channel
Just note though that it will look shit at first as your PC has to buffer the feed coming through, oh and sometimes the feed you are watching will be a minute or so behind the actual game so if you are on Le Grove at the same time and are refreshing the screen, other bloggers may be posting good or bad news in advance of you seeing it.
Frank McLinctock – Legend.
rookie,i am the rookie haven’t a clue what to do.do i have to sign in with an e mail address for sopcast.
Stu… Did you hear the Bob Wilson interview the other night on Arsenal TV.
After the League cup defeat by Swindon Frank McLintock threw his tankard down in the mud he was so pissed off, and somehow when he got up he walked into the marching band and he got hit on the head by the trombone player.
Stu i met frank 2 years ago for a golf tournament luncheon.he is a real gentlemen,with 4 sons none of whom play football.he pointed out our frailities then,we need a tony adams he said then.
avennel
just go to this site, its very simple u click teh link it tellks u what to install and then u click teh channel
morning grovers,
Sorry Geoff but I just don’t get the logic …. Ade headbutting Bendtner was Gallas’s fault????? I think he is now being used as a scapegoat for everything because people are hoping without him we will get better. Gallas is not the cause of the majority of our woes, I think the only real issue you can have with him is that the players never really respected him or his opinions. Some of our players are too arrogant and bigheaded to have their captain dare tell them a few home truths, and I include Ade and Bendtner in that.
Sorry Kelsey, i was away for a few mins
No you can log into Sopcast anonymously.
rookie, ive downloaded from that link, whats the best way to find the game on the drop down?
Thanks guys for your support, Geoff, the idiot told me to F Off because i hadnt watched the game, and i was only giving a bit of support to Nik
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sat22.11/ManCity_Arsenal.html
pat – my pc security blocks me from downloading sopcast – HELP
u handled the situation very well rico i thought
No didnt see the interview, i dont have ATV. Wish I did tho.
I would love to meet the legends. They were all model professionals and knew how to handle everything.
Merson and Nicholas are on soccer saturday now talking about how when they were playing there was fights every week and everyone just got on with it and did their jobs on the pitch.
And they are saying its too early for Cesc and Frank said that Silvestre is the only viable option for the armband. We are fucked, we have no captain material in the whole squad.
Chris.. you haven’t posted anything mate..
My compuer is a bit old and er indoors has loaded it up with photo’s (behave) so I think it’s a bit slow..
I normally go on justin tv and when 1 stream starts to freeze , I find another would yours be better?
Also are you the Chris who posted firewalls and anti virus links ages ago?
If so would you be so kind as to do it again some time.. Thanks.
Who you talking about Rico? That twat David froma few days ago?
Morning Pedro/Geoff and Le Grovers,
Must admit I’m still disappointed with the Gallas situation, but if it helps the Arsenal start to perform then its the right decision. I guess only time will tell!
I’ll be honest, I don’t think Gallas was given a fair crack of the whip from the off because of the way he got the captaincy, but that wasn’t his fault. Gilberto was a fan’s favourite but wasn’t going to be a first team regular so I suppose Gallas was the obvious choice.
I think he did OK at the job. Last season when we were flying most Gooners were saying what a great decision it was to appoint Gallas as skipper and only started to doubt him after the Birmingham incident.
Many Gooners are split on this incident but I felt it showed passion and he is only human. The media coverage of this was disgraceful. It went on for weeks. Rio Ferdinand kicked a WOMEN and it was barely mentioned.
That is what Gallas was up against. And for then on every little mistake he made was intensified tenfold. I think we forget that Gallas hadn’t been a captain for long and was still learning the job.
He didn’t help himself at times with his outbursts and somethings should have been kept between the players, not shared with the outside world and I suppose he broke the code with his latest outburst.
Maybe the decision to strip him of the armband will rejuvenate Arsenal’s season. Who knows? Only time will tell. But I still worry for whoever gets the job. The same problems will be there, the same players will be there.
I worry because there are NO leaders in this squad and that certainly didn’t help Gallas’ cause. He was learning the job with no one around to help him. It will be the same for whoever gets the job.
Tony Adams and Patrick Vieira are names that keep being mentioned and while they were great captains they had plenty of support around them to help them grow into the role.
Adams had the likes of Bould, O’ Leary, Seaman, Dixon, Alan Smith and Keown the list is endless.
Vieira had the likes of Bergkamp, Henry, Keown, Seaman, Parlour and Gilberto and many more.
I’m gutted at the way it had panned out for William Gallas who is a world-class defender. The only future for him is away from Arsenal. He can not continue at the club.
Yes, I’m gutted for Gallas, but I’m more gutted for Arsenal who have now lost a top class defender and that can’t be denied.
This may lift a weight off the rest of the squad’s shoulders, if that is the case, and as I’ve said, only time will tell.
But I still worry for the next captain. It’s going to be a hard job.
i will get everybody a decent link the sopcats options are not in english today, confirm Pat?
thanks chris – i wanted to jump down my pc and strangle the man!!
Stu – I couldnt have put that better myself – yes, thats him
I spent so long writing that I decided to use it as a post on my blog as well!
Sorry Geoff and Pedro! I know its a wagon post!
Good to see a Hoyte back in the first team line up agai!
Is this Gallas book thing true or is it a wind up???
Afternoon Wrighty!
Afternoon Avenell.
I think the books being released in France mate.
ave – its for real, his book was launched yesterday
Wow, avenell I haven’t heard the Branded tune since I was a boy. I used to take it so seriously and always felt sorry for him.
I don’t feel sorry for him Wrighty, he releases a book in the same week he slags off Arsenal and the France team, he’s caused his own problems.
and he is still going to be payed about £80,000 a week.
He has bit the hand that feeds him..
thanks pat.
john mottsam is at the ground and just said ade very unlikely to play,as togo played midweek on a plastic pitch,further aggreviating his ankle.
The links grow as the day goes on Chris.
Usually you get at least one English link by about 2:30 UK time.
Rico, not sure why your PC Security is stopping you from downloading it. I am not sure what PC Security you have but you may have to disable it for a couple of seconds whilst it downloads. Download.com is pretty reliable and I dont think there is any problem with the product, I have been using it for a couple of years.
Afternoon Wrighty – I dont feel sorry for him either, he has acted like a big kid, and earning 90k a week, he should know when to keep his mouth shut, he is our club captain, and should be proud, not go running to the Paps when the going gets tough, he should have spoke to Arsene and everything kept in house –
If i played for our mighty club, i would love the captains armband, and would be chuffed to bits
Morning !! Did anybody read MP’s latest – I got a strange feeling after reading it…
The youth focus arsene have had the last4-5 years are crumbeling under his feet.
He will still have the same focus on development, but – he will not have a +50% of the squad below 20 again…He will rebuild this summer….
pat – i have MacCaffe, as for disabling it, mme now i would not know where to begin
London… Yea I used to have to watch it! Along with the Rifleman, the High Chapperal and all the Gene Autry films..
I thought of it when Gallas got branded, but I didn’t realize how old it looks now!
rico what have i missed,someone insulting you,never.can’t see any posts or have they been deleted.
There is of course the Twelve Pins in Finsbury Park that shows every single Arsenal game.
kelsey – it was last saturday after the game, he was a little S***E
That’s handy London if I leave now I should make it for “6″.
they have shown about 50 times today the gallas reaction at brum,and all the expects agree that he should have been stripped here and then,the more i watch it,the more i feel embarrased at his actions.
lets see if the boys can really be up for it today,because if we lose we really are looking downwards not upwards.
His name was David; he was very upset about the loss and didn’t realise that Rico is a lady. Not that that should make any difference.
kelsey – just watching myself, Frank Mc interview – Gallas nearly crying, it is as you say quite embarrassing to watch again
What you mean you don’t live in Avenell Road?
Everyone says that Gallas is just passionate about the club and all this bul, but he shouldnt have let his emotions get the better of him so often. A proper captain should be able to handle the pressure, take the blame and control his team, not crack up and start blaming all the problems on players argueing and let everything out to the press.
Having the armand anywhere is a privelege and Gallas took it for granted and just through it away.
Does everyone thing he will go in january, the summer or have his contract terminated? The longer he is here the more problems he can cause.
London, no it shouldnt and i told him that – his comments were disgraceful, and totally against the standards and rule that Geoff and Pedro set on this site. I dont mind people disagreeing with my views, hey ho thats life, but he was rude and very hostile.. Anyway that was last week, and today Sgt Geoff and Sgt Pedro will be around
Stu – he is now a liability imho, i think he will be sacked, or loaned out. Geoff said we have to pay half his wages, well for me thats better than paying him 90k a week for a bad performance
geoff is more a sgt major type, pedro is more an intelligence officer, but with the gistapo
Gallas has got 18 months left on his contract.. It’s going to cost us big time to get rid..
A right bargain from Chelsea..
London . I suppose you live in London do ya..
ave – he may get loaned out, then sold in January for a few million. Thats if there is another club who wants him ! As suggested earlier, he may even be good bait in a swap for Cana
Can I just say something about losing TAFKAC (The Asshole Formerly Known As Captain)
The Carling Cup team didn’t need him did they, to play with spirit determination passion and pride?
Could it possibly be that their squad wasn’t poisoned by in-fighting bitching and discord? And given that we haven’t had ANYONE else running to the media and squealing on their teammates, what might have been the cause of such an atmosphere in the first team?
I am really confident that our boys will play with a new freedom and relief.
When Henry left us, everyone was doom doom doom, but on another board I was 100% confident that the lads would play with a new togetherness now that the shackles had been removed, and that was exactly what they did. I really do feel the same about this weeks events, it can only be a positive thing.
But I am prepared for a little egg on face if it doesn’t work out, might I add.
I don’t like John Terry but on Wednesday he took the pressure of Carson by saying the goal was his fault.
Even if he has a right go at Carson behind closed doors, can anyone imagine Gallas would have ever done that..
Not that Gallas played for England or it was Gallas’s fault.. You know what I mean..
Hi Rico
Sorry I have never used Mcafee so not sure how you disable it to download. If you can get it downloaded, you may also want to look at this link
http://www.technipages.com/allow-program-access-through-mcafee-personal-firewall.html
Its never easy but it is for Arsenal, so you have to find a way somehow
I like to think of myself as Alexander the Great, he was my hero, followed by Ghengis Khan and Nelson.
If anyone disrespects anyone on this site they’re off, do it to a lady they don’t come back.
I’ve been trying to download that sopcast shit for an hour, it’s not having it, any ideas to just click a button and watch the game?
Alexander Song the Great?
I’ll take a yellow geoff.. low punch..
Hi Rico,
Avenell and Rico, I guess I’m in a minority of one then! LOL
To be honest, no matter how much I whinge about Gallas it won’t change a thing!
He aint captain Willy no more……..
I hope you all right and Arsenal have a new togetherness!
Afternoon Geoff………
I worry about downloading things, is that Sopcast safe and reliable?
“Of course, some of my Arsenal team-mates could not have appreciated my behaviour against Birmingham.
“I had to state my authority again and today when I motivate them before a match, they say; ‘Capi, we need you, we are following you’.
“If I would have been an unworthy captain, they would have banned me.
__
remember that little gem
Re Sopcast
I have used it for several years now and never had any problems at all. It is reliable, and if you minimise it to the small video window only it will stay visible in front of your other windows even while you work in another application or browser. I recommend it
Seb,
Do you work for Sopcast? LOL
Avenall, it’s on its way! Wrighty, afternoon, I can’t get the download, it says it’s downloaded, but I click on it and it doesn’t work.
Perhaps you have wait until the game nearly starts or something Geoff????
Same here, I have Sopcast for a few years.
Was wary at first and initially it was poo quality but it has got a lot better. I could not live without it, I canceled my Setanta subscription as a result
Maybe but I won’t be watching if not!
Geoff… Justin TV doesn’t need it, can you watch on there?
Do you have to pay for it Pat?
You can watch a guide on how to download and install sopcast here.
No its free, I tried Justin TV but the quality was often poor and sometimes died half way through a game
To be honest though, as long as I can get a link somewhere I am happy. Sopcast is my fav though
JustinTV is the Alexandar Song version of watching online
sometimes ok but often dreadful
Pat… I meant it’s better than nothing,, I don’t know too much about all this technology mate!
1st
Pat watched that but sopcast still won’t download!
Okay I got the Plymouth game on this and it’s perfect http://www.iraqgoals.com/en/ch1.html I just hope the Man city game is on it.
You can have fun with link Geoff, the commentry is in foreign so you just press mute and do your own commentry……..
“And heres Arsenal’s skipper William Gallas”…………………….Doh
Morning all
I use http://www.footyonline.tv. It costs £1.50 per game or you can buy a season ticket for £23. Easy to download and excellen picture quality.
Geoff – you are a hero to us all
Pat … I can pick up the link that Geoff just posted.. does that mean I have sopcast or is the link on media player?
Rico.. Creep..
Rico, ignore him, you’re a star!
Wrighty, be a bit careful with Sopcast… it can do strange things with your PC.
Pedro. You are a hero to us all,,
i would like to apologize to Kelsey for not answering him on sopcast issue…i was away so again i m sorry good that other grovers helped him….
ave – you naughty man
Geoff, a shining one
Cheers Avenell, you guys mean more to me than all the goodness in the world.
Take that Rico!!
I’m lower than a snakes belly when needed..
Cheers Pedro,
As soon I started to download it my Norton thingy started telling me things, strange things that I don’t understand. So I sacked it.
Gonna try another link.
This is a serious love-in!!
The calm before the storm????
In all seriousness,
YOU GUYS ROCK! ESPECIALLY YOU WRIGHTY7
ave – you sure are, i am so excited about todays game, i feel really different than i have done the last few weeks, and no i am not on the pop,
Sgt Pedro – Macafee wouldnt let me download sopcast, said it was ‘dangerous’
Aaaaaar Thanks Wrighty7. You are great too.
Wrighty, i have left a message on your blog
http://www.footyonline.tv
Costs £1.50 per day. You can pay one day/game at a time!!!!
£1.50 – no hassle, I promise and I’m not a shareholder
ave – did you see Revalation sing a choral version of Take That…… on last choir standing ??
Am I invisible today – gonna get a complex.
Hi Peaches
Sorry..
Rico…. Who?
The only revalation I know posts on here.. reVELAtion..
You are cheeky Rico!
Hi Peaches!!!!!!!
Peaches,
You work for that site, I’m on to you!
Heeeeeeeeeelo peaches
ave – guess thats a No then,
Wrighty sussed her out mate,,..
http://www.Peaches@footieonline.com
Rico….
I don’t know what to say….
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1OhD-DPINco
Very funny – I’m only trying to help yous’ll have a chance at watching our fabulous team reduce citeh to pulp!!!!
Would love to see Wilshere get some opportunities now that Walcott is out.
Any team news????
Gallas is out!!
Almunia is captain
has the starting 11 been anounced yet?
is Ramsey playing?
Almunia
Hoyte – Djourou – Silvestre – Clichy
Diaby – Denilson – Song – Nasri
Bendtner – van Persie
Subs:
Fabianski, Gibbs, Lansbury, Wilshere, Ramsey, Vela, Simpson
We know LJ has travelled but will he get any time on the pitch? Today would be a good day for Ramsey to play a bit too.
I hope the team are really up for it. Come on you Reds, show Gallas what hes gonna be missing.
Helloooo Rico – have managed to get a stream going yet?
Wrighty – as I read your first post this morning I wondered if you’d use it on your blog!!!!!!!!!!!!
avenell – the wine made me spell you incorrectly last nite and I apologise
BBC sport 14:12 has Almunia as captain.
Check this out!
http://www.soccervoice.com/n081145.htm
peaches hi there,where’s raddy gone.he told me that we all grew up quite near each other,in ghetto land
Fuck me that is a weak looking team…
Why do we always seem to play a team that looks like that when we go up north?
Where is Adebayor and is Diaby the only alternative to Theo?
Crap team…
No problem peaches it’s just lovely to talk to you..
Did you get in touch with Raddy?
Peaches,
I actually wrote it as a comment on Le-Grove and as I was writing it I thought I may as well use it as a post on my blog!
wrighty thanks for the good news maybe as a keeper.
‘ Gallas moved from Chelsea under almost the same sircumstances’
Never trust an article that spells that poorly!
Ade is injured Pedro!!
On the BBC’s ‘Football Focus’ programme, John Motson has reported that Emmanuel Adebayor has returned from international duty with Togo carrying an injury and will be ruled out of today’s match. He gave no indication of the seriousness of the injury and it is not yet known how long he may be out of action for.
Is that really the starting line-up?
Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers!!!…………..
pedro,ade is injured what’s the full team
Pedro, where have you see the team?
Gallas as a spud. Should f*ck up their revival nicely.
aaaah! ….. why song and not ramsey?
wow, Chelsea have got both Coles and Lampard. None played mid week for England.
Capello wont be happy !!!
Gallas as a Spud ,,, Judas Ha ha…
Why iz dat thenn Pedrro?
that line up doesn’t fill me with confidence
Joe where did you get your info?
Teams
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live_match/index_bet.auto?/opt/ASFapache/htdocs/site/football/live_match/168289.insdat
team exactly as expected, best of players available. Need VP, Nasri, and Bendtner to fire today!
has anyone got a decent feed to watch the game online?
Can’t tell you Mark, but I’ve known since last night
I am sure you will all find your own way of watching in the end.
PC Security like Mcafee and Norton are very over protective and often pick out software as dangerous even though they are safe. It is probably because Sopcast is classed as p2p software and accesses the Internet to get the feed so the Security has a trigger that it is dangerous. From memory I think there was also a spoof Sopcast.exe floating around that was infected so your security may have that in its virus definitions.
As I said I have used it for a few years, without problems or virus and I work in IT so am happy to do so, as I know I can fix it if it all goes pete tong.
What I will say is if you dont feel comfortable downloading something then dont do it.
Sorry Avenell I was away earlier watching the highlights of the Rugby, Sites like Iraqgoals etc are not using Sopcast, I think they are playing it through Media Player in your web browser. You know if Sopcast is running as you will see the app on your screen.
I would have preferred to see Ramsey in the midfield… and Denilson partner Diaby.
I don’t see the need for Song and Denilson? That is a weak partnership.
We’ll still win today… but I think that is a disappointing team.
Who is te new captain? I knowalmunia will have it today but who gets it permanently?
andy c it’s because Ramsey played for wales midweek and looked absolutely exhausted.
if it hasnt been said already, gallas for le chump!
I’ll send him an email – was he on yesterday? He was def around earlier in the week.
Be back in a bit x
Kolo isn’t even on the bench?
Not brilliant in full screen but ok
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sat22.11/ManCity_Arsenal2.html
A see the post at 12.05
Did ramsey play the whole game or come off early?
guys
which channel it is on setanta 1 or 2
Look at my comment at 11:40.
I agree with Pedro, I don’t think we’ll lose. Denilson should have more freedom with Song behind him, so I expect to see him getting a 8+ out of 10 from Pedro tomorrow.
kolo has a calf sprain pedro.
He came off after about 80 minutes, but was dead on his feet from about 55-60.
cheers chozzer
ave – great link, they were really good
Starting Line-ups
1 Almunia
18 Silvestre
22 Clichy
20 Djourou
17 Hoyte
2 Diaby
15 Denilson
8 Nasri
17 Song
26 Bendtner
11 van Persie
Substitutes
21 Fabianski
19 Wilshere
40 Gibbs
16 Ramsey
50 Simpson
42 Lansbury
12 Vela
Kolo’s torn his calf Pedro.
Arse .com say Toure come back from international duty injured and is likely to miss the match..
guys plzz
which channel it is on setanta 1 or 2
BTW, there’s a good stream over at GoonerTalkTV.
So – we WILL see Vela or Simpson today then
I would have played Ramsey instead of Song, otherwise thats the best start i think, albeit would rather Vela than Nik, but hey, today is the start of a new season, and they may just show what they are made of, Chuffed for Hoyte, dont let yourself down boy
TrueGooner, it ain’t on TV i don’t think.
rico i’d imagine vela would have been a big candidate to start today but he played for mexico in mid week so his match ended at 4am thursday morning and long flight etc so jetlagged
TG, not on Setanta in UK anyway
Pedro. kolo is injured.
great isnt it
shit
thanks anyway buddy…
streams anyone?
http://goonertalk.com/goonertalk-tv/
There’s one without all teh crappy comments, Choy
A – thanks, at least he is banned for the next three internationals
Talksport have the live commentary on their website.
gooner talk tv is pretty good choy
kelsey – I’ve emailed Raddy, where did you live then?
SMH, what do Ramsey & Wilshere have to do??
Thats not a particularly good midfield in my opinion, Wenger has done exactly what I did not want him to do, which is play denilson and song in the middle, with diaby on the wing. Let’s hope it works for our sake.
Gooner talk is dead…
Do they stream games?
Mark, I didn’t realise how bad Le Rosicklist was!
diaby will play quite narrow i think, we should be ok as long as SWP stays out on the right!
im watching now pedro!
http://new.talksport.net/mediaplayer/media_player.asp?sListenLive=yes
Im on Gooner talk Pedro,
joe.. the link is dead!
I’m in!
Gooner Talk is alive Pedro!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wWJqm2sicI8
My mate just sent me this link. Its my 5-a-side team, we are in red and I’m wearing the white shorts.
Look at how pissed off I am, just strolling round. I was pissed off because we were getting hammered and my mate Mabbs, the big geezer who looks like Chris Griffin from Family Guy came on!
Everyone said I looked disgusted and I haven’t lived it down!
I was really sulking! Perhaps thats why I like Gallas! Ha ha
If the site doesn’t work, use a proxy.
http://daveproxy.co.uk
sion there isn’t any other team we could have picked. ramsey and wilshere aren’t ready to start today, they both showed that midweek looking fatigued for wales and the reserve team. Diaby isn’t ready to play in a 4 man midfield at the moment, especially not on last week’s showing he gives the ball away far too much. I like the idea of Song and Denilson holding giving Diaby free reign to wander around all over the place ahead of them.
yeah true rico, i wonder if he’s taken a leaf out of mascherano and tevez books and did it deliberately! He has been very unlucky in that the travelling to and from south america has ruled him out of a lot of games he could well have played in.
Gooner talk link is working for me!!!
http://goonertalk.com/goonertalk-tv/
It’s a bit juddery isn’t it?
yeah cos you lot have all jumped on!
I’m in Chris! It was saying the server was out earlier!
i was just gonna say that pedro! will it buffer and improve or be like that the whole time? certainly good quality
peaches i e mail raddy as well now i live in costa del sol but we grew up quite near each other
Catch you soon…….
A… it varies through out the game on most of them. Hopefully we’ll have a good day!
Alright mate, hopefully the site doesn’t crash lol!
Is this your first run at live streaming Chris?
Wrighty couldn’t pick that up..
Do you ever play Mayfield Athletic, i played a season for them?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2I-RpypQMI
Heres another one, fast forward to 55 seconds and you can hear my mates saying I had the right hump!
A, I personally think Wilshere IS ready to start, and have done for a long time. I don’t care if he’s 16, the boy is ready. It’s like having a player on the bench you KNOW it gonna change a game, and not playing him.
Oy get off you lot!!! it’s freezing now!!
http://www.justin.tv/corentin
kelsey – I knew you were in spain now. How lovely – its freezing here tday, bet you’re not freezing.
Are you in nw london on sea?
Well I’m gonna watch the game on http://www.footyonline.tv – catch u later xxxxx
Hi Fellas,
Big Raddy is alive and kicking. Been up to North Denmark in an attempt to clear my head of some of the shite in my head !!
Didn’t work !
Off to watch the game. Come on you rip-roaring Gunners
Thanks for email Peaches. And thanks to the Grovers who wondered where I have been.
I will take an early goal, and a comfortable victory (as if)
We will struggle withthis formation. He should have started Ramsey, with a Frontline of Simpson and RVP. you need hunger in this team, who has the hunger? The team will be hustled and may conceed before the first ten minutes.
haha hart maybe in for it from capello
sion he still comes in and out of games for the reserves, and looked very tired on tuesday in the reserve friendly against norwich, so there’s no way he could really have started today in the premiership. In terms of his quality I think he’s ready for the occasional start too, but gotta be the right time and place. As he played midweek and was tired today wasn’t a possibility. More or less exactly the same goes for ramsey. At the start of the week I was very excited about the possibility of one of them starting, but after seeing ramsey on weds, and hearing about wilshere on tuesday, it was obvious neither of them could start today unfortunately. Their time will come though!
Sion, he could definitly make an impact in a game like today.
I don’t think he should be playing regularly…but for me he’d do a better job than Diaby.
Diaby should go in the middle with Denilson. I’d stick Rambo out wide and I’d go with Vela and RvP up front.
Song needs to have a great game today… no excuses from him. So… will Hoyte be dealing with Robinho?
Baptism of fire of what!
Matt Le Tis is ripping the Almunia choice…
anyone got the game working?! i’ve lost all my potential streams….
SONG, FUCK ME STIFF
avenell
If you have a meal in a resturant, do you need to know if the waitress is shagging the chef because you have paid good money?
well that all depends ? are you going to the restaurant every week paying for shitty food ?
do you see the waitress play 90 minutes of bad football every week and the owner comes out and tells you the food is great ?
is the waitress on 80 k a week ? how can you remain a fan of the food ?
if you were served this crap every week you wouldnt come back . full stop ..
but arsenal is in the blood and we need answers !
Season ticket for sale , Geoff ?
I must say that seeing the boys hug each other you do get the feeling that something has been lifted off their shoulder. I wonder if there is a collective disdain for Gallas and a relieve that finally their “oppressor” is no more. We shall see in the next few minutes.
confident what you watching it on??
peachesgooner, thanks that is great… …watching from work noiche!
http://www.justin.tv/hodood
Try here chaps…. http://sportsonlaptops.blogspot.com/
That was an elbow!
Good
Come on Denilson. You have to step up with Cesc out
I’m getting close Raddy, is he fucking stupid? or is it me?
hoyte !! heheh
hoyte isnt fucking about is he!
lol i’ll put a tenner on we only muster any shots on target in the last 10 mins.
we need denilson defensively. Djourou really doesn’t fill me with confidence. We have adebayor in attack, diaby in midfield who can fill us with confidence and dread at the same time mixing moments of brilliance with moments where they have the touch of a rapist and they wouldn’t look out of place in sunday league, we really shouldn’t stick another in the defence!
I want to believe that Gallas himself knows the consequence of his action. The fact that he still went ahead and do it further prove that he insulted all Arsenal Fans all over the world, I mean it is like telling us that he is done with the team and we should go to hell for all he cares.
Now am scare as the game is on, cant stand a two defeat in a row, let me be optimistic however, we shall win. let me predict – Man City 2 Arsenal 3
The boys are playing well so far. Good coordination between mid and defense.
Almunia has the shits with hoyte. rightly so
nice skill nick
hoyte doesn’t fuck about does he…
Dennilson has been disappointing so far. Song Solid, Diaby Solid, Clichy solid
bendtner is much happier with support from another forward isnt he. Hoyte could get sent off this match!
Diaby has his work cut out on the right today – no service from hoyte, hes gonna be hung out to dry
I really do not see why Jay Simpson is not playing ahead of the Antelope, Bentdner
lovely passing between rvp and nick
quality against from bendtner, he’s so much better dropping deep
denilson is having a mare… jogging around doing f-all.. Get ramsey on
again even, not against. yeah they do link up well dont they choy.
songs passing at times is very worrying
A you said it lol
tks choy. the audio sux but the vissual is what counts. tks again!
very sluggish game though… !
yeah Just Stick It In!… commentator is going paranoid!!!
This isn’t great is it?
denilson u r a very lucky boy!!! Cunt
That was close…
damn.. almost conceded there!
Bolton were nearly paying 5 bucks on the aussie tote today, i knew they would win. 2-0 against boro already
nearly a goal against following another foul we should have had! are all ref’s against us at the moment?!
will we ever stop fucking around?
revalation was denilson not tripped there?
this doesnt look good does it… no shots or noteable attacks and the players’ confidence looks shot to shit
and how was that not a foul on vp?!
how wasnt that a foul?
i wouldn’t say that reva, the players look more confident for me, lots of nice little flicks etc, just not quite happening
any goal is loooking like its going to come from a nasri-RVP hook up
denilson again!!!!!!!!
where u lot watching the game
Filthy aren’t they?
Typical hughes
any working streams guys
shabz, its on Gooner talk
yeah i agree evo, well bendtner nasri vp. City are being very dirty. Have the rules changed somehow following the disgraceful performance from villa that the ref did nothing about?! it’s as if fouling arsenal is not absolutely fine, and even when fouls are given noone is gonna be booked
pedro u got the link
jesus christ song u donkey
http://sportsonlaptops.blogspot.com/
song u r fucking useless anywhere other than in defense
song is a joke! he might make an ok defender in the future but surely his technique will prevent him ever being a good midfielder! my stream is a bit dodgy was that awesome backheel from vp or bend?
Song he’s fucking useless
No shots on goal at 30 mins from Arsenal, no real threat. Guys we have a problem with this team!
Wiley is allowing some tackles from City. Shit!
great minds reva
shows what happens when cesc isn’t in the team demanding to take every set piece! The set piece thing worries me in terms of the way it reflects on cesc’s personality. Nasri is much better than him at set pieces yet he uses his seniority to take them, what would he be like if he was made captain?!
where is djorou
the passing is awful… song and denilson in centre mid? Get fucking ramsey on there
song sux, wish alex stop singing!
nil2 till h.t guys, then arsene can weave his magic.
diaby pass the fucking ball
I knew this would happen, hence why I said Ramsey & Wilshere should be in there, or even the kid Lansbury
does not seem like there is much difference in quality between the two sides
Thank fuck for Silvestre hey, if we didnt buy that bastard we’d be fucked right about now!
i can not help with tips as i have spent the last hour looking for this for my fellow grovers but to some it will make sense,
http://www.myp2pforum.eu/sopcast/11734-sopcast-vlc.html
we were very lucky there!
sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/6816
u need to have vlc installed as well as sopcast
in english!!!!!
Fuck it!!
should be 1-0 down
bloody hell, same old, one behind!
Well City look by far the more dangerous side right now
and now we are…fuck this
the little prick
We are!!!
Here we go again…
fucks sake. clichy fuck up
fuck this ! ill settle for the food !
Well there you have it again…
At half time, remove Dennilson, bring Ramsey in, bring Wiltshire, remove Ramsey, miove Diaby to Patner RVP, then at 65 mins, bring jay simpson if he is in the reserves. Just get Bendtner off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bull shit
you could see it coming…
Niki has been useless as has Song
Ramsey and Vela (even after flight) on after the break
well i aint suprised
clichy is becoming the new titus bramble im afraid
why did wenger start denilson, diaby and song in midfield. Too defensive. We lost last time we played them 3
Shit defending and offside
its wily’s fault
we are shit
They fully deserve to be 1 up…Song is divinely garbage
city have been the better team going forward, they look dangerous.. I cannot begrudge them their 1-0 lead
and some of you called for Clichy to be Captain!!!!!
confident we want to try and win the game, not make a joke of ourselves. Song has been attrocious, nasri nik and vp have been handy but not really had the cutting edge. Diaby has been nothingy, denilson ok. They scored from a clichy mistake, that’s why he shouldn’t be captain, he still needs to concentrate on his own game
not offside geoff clichy cleared and it came off silvestre good goal
At least a yard ofside if it was a citeh player with the last touch forward.
Why play SONG???? He has been nothing short of rubbish! And what do u know 1-0 down!!! Come AKB’s Whats the excuse????????
we are utter shit
What odds on Wenger making any changes at half time – does he even know the meaning of a ‘balanced side’ any more?
im heading back to bed all.
catch you next time.
cheers
Clichy fucks up again! How many time does he have to do this before people stop giving him preferential treatment. Being enthusiastic and Mr. Arsenal doesn’t cut it I’m afraid. Hes’s a liability. That’s why he won’t get the captaincy.
He didn’t even make contact with the ball.
It would help if SHITSONG stopped losing the ball in the centre
its like 3 games since we last created a clear scoring chance this is from the ‘best passing team’ in the world. lets keep deceiving ourselves. If wenger can strip the captainship from Willy to prove a point waht solud the board do to him?
The goal has finally come. We really have a problem on our hands and in a way it is good that the whole thing is falling in his face
I refuse to comment bout Bentner….as if you didnt know how useless he is…how many more games do you have to see?
Im feeling sick…this is nonsense
This team just seems like robots. They never seem to sense danger and up the tempo or adjust their game. It’s just the same old same old.
Denilson, Diaby, Song just epitomise this. Those players are the poisons.
song will come off for ramsey after about an hour/70 mins. Maybe vela and wilshere on for diaby and bendtner depending on how they come out second half.
9 first team players missing:
Gallas
Adebayor
Fabregas
Rosicky
Sagna
Eboue
Walcott
Eduardo
Toure
Have some perspective.
hoyte’s not looked out of his depth and that is about the only positive i can take from that 1st half… Diaby dribbles to much, song and denilson are just shit and the more bendtner plays the mor i’m starting to think he’s just a championship player…
What a shambles.
rvp lucky not to get sent off with his early foul,and city aren’t that hot.
poor old clichy
only one who looks remotely interested is nasri
diaby hasn’t won a tackle
don’t think we will get relegated though
yes peaches NW london by the sea
Lets look at this,
Both sides the first half were shit, it is a really shitty game and neither side really looked dangerous.
They’ve had a bit of luck from our comical defending.
It seems we are really lacking confidence.
Babe, I’ve got you babe, I’ve got you babe………….
are we the only ones that can see Song is and always will be crap, what is it with Wenger?
What made that goal worse the fact the screen was buffering the whole way through it so I saw the goal in staggered stages. Urghh!
yes john perhaps, but look at the teean selection?! Based on performances shouldn’t ramsey have been given the nod instead of denilson and song? shouldn’t Wilshire get a game on the right with diaby moving inside? and after bendtners shocking form of late shouldnt simpson or even a jet lagged vela been given a nod?
Wenger’s selection sums him up for me at the moment…. He has a thing about song, denilson and to an extent eboue that only he can see
Rudderless would sum it up for me.
No ideas… and those fucking pink boots are a disgrace. I am all for pushing the boundaries of fashion… but pink boots in a mans game are pathetic.
we have conceded goals in our last 5 league matches.
tottenham 4
stoke 2
united 1
villa 2
man city 1
that is 10 goals
Song off & Ramsay on now. Why does AW persist with song. Why
Bendtner has been nothing short of poo as well, with his 3meter monster first touch! this team is emulating the Stoke,Villa,Hull games – No heart, no desire, always just trying to pass it around with out any cause, and why is SONG playing? Fuck you Wenger this is your fault! In the last transfer window u decided we had the depth. Yeh i bet u r eating your words now fuck head.
We have to concede we are in a fight for 4th place this season, which we will get.
The question is how do we raise our confidence?
I can really sense the players feeling liberated due to Gallas’s ‘departure’. It really seems to have rejuvenated them……
Wrighty7
Thats easy….buy good players!
It’s a disgrace!!! Wenger will never listen – too bloody arrogant!!!! He’s about as good as some of the team!!! I’ve had enough of him!!!
Clichy fucked it again !
i cant believe half of you wanted to make him captain !
how many capital fuck ups does he need under his belt before certain people realize he is a defensive nightmare with stark recurrence….
he is ok going forward .. but he is a defender right ???
chelsea up next too…………
Who would you give it to Ethan?
It’s him or Cesc for me…
we are a laughing stock but the joke isnt funny anymore…this is serious…we got serious prblems
We will get smashed by Chelsea.
Oh and Stephen Ireland again, Not sure why he would join us but I would love to see him at Arsenal.
i reakon just bring the lube against Chelsea…..
any news of any subs?
Please bring on Ramsey xx
Revelation,
Do you seriously believe that your team selection would be better than Wenger’s, widely acknowledged to be one of the top 5 coaches in the world ?
is it me or is everyone having an absolute fucking nightmare season apart from adebayor, nasri and ramsey?
Clichy still the best captain for me…
Exactly Rob,
Fuck this potentially ruining careers shit we hear. Sign a couple of names to make the world stand up and take note.
It will lift the players and excite Gooners……
Song has not been bad. He is a DM. what we lack is somebody creating and one of our attackers is shit. We also have no wing play whatsoever. This squad will not even make top 5 at this rate not to talk of talk 5. Defense has not been very sharp. Look am not holding out Song, as I believe we deserve better, but he has done OK so far.
What we need to do? Bring in a winger, perhaps Wiltshire, bring in a creator- Ramsey, remove an under performing attacker-bendtner and bring in an attacker
john up untill this season that top 5 has become seriously debatble….
Midfield are just not giving the front men a chance. We have not seen a single ball that NB or RvP can run on to. Nor a pass between the 2 of them.
Song’s first half performance was the worst I have seen from an Arsenal player in years. Get him off….
I say wenger should bring in a hypnotist to rick the players into thinking they are actaully capable of playing good football. This team wants too much time on the ball whereas the CC team were just 1,2 touch football and the oppo didnt have the chance to win the ball back. Shit selection in midfield again. Ramsey and LJW should have started.
captain or points????
That was better
John any more of that shit and I’ll yellow card you.
Oh Nik terrible miss
pedro
it can only be cesc .. he is the next most senior player with arsenal games under his belt !
nasri would be a good pick in a season or 2 ..
but who knows how wenger will fuck his career up too ?!
maybe almunia for the rest of the season ?!
it might lift his game ???
id prefer a defender sure … but i think giving it too cesc might see him crack !
but logically there is not much else to pick from …..
bendtner is now officially shite… and i stuck up for him…tsk
how did he not touch that?
I had a retinal detachment operation last week….that first half was way more painful.
song on the pitch and toure on the bench ?
fucccckkkkkkkkkk!
its a sad sad day to be an arsenal fan !
Exactly Stu, thats what I said, denilson and song in midfield is just ridiculous IMO, even though Denilson has been ok this season, but hes been almost as poor as Song today.
Unlucky RVP
unlucky captain vp
Add Bendtner to that shit list, stu the only one who needs a hypnotist is Wenger, Ethan it will be Cesc, that’s why he didn’t announce it, Cesc wasn’t playing, anticlimax.
team selections again are a huge let down !
wenger will continue on like this 2 or 3 more games then put on vela – ramsey – jack ..
and call himself a fuckin genius !
I say, PLAY THE KIDS NOW, THE FIRST TEAM AREN’T MERITTING THEIR PLACE!!!
Why do with 2 shitty CMs in Denilson and Song? Why not Ramsey? Wenger is fucking losing it.
geoff
i agree who else is qualified enough ?
song ?
he seems to get a game over toure nowadays !
wengers selections are in the fuckin toilet !
im sure he picks the team by pissing up the wall these days !
nice vp
FUCK
stupid stupid stupid
2 – 0 down. what a cunt
I can’t take this anymore.
robinho good finish
oh dear
2-0
I hope we do not open up and conceede again. Wenger must be nuts not to bring in Ramsey!
Ladies and Gents….Season Over…Gnite.
bloody hell, 2 down
smh, great, 2-0.
Wenger needs to sort that midfield out, hes gonna have to sell some of those pussies out there.
Ive had it with this team and this fucking COACH!
haha
0-2 fuck
Ramsey. Too little too late
its willy’s fault too
we will be fighting for fifth spot with Hull soon
what do u knmow crapner another monster touch!
This is woeful…
a bit late for rambo now, half time you SHOUDL HAVE SEEN THE PROBLEM!
SERIOUS QUESTIONS NEEDS TO BE FUCKING ASKED. HOW LONG DO WENGER AND THE BOARD THINK THEY CAN CONTINUE TO FEED US THIS BULLSHIT EVERY SEASON.
I want to say im shocked but i think i’ll just give up. Dont be suprised if someone tries to attack Wenger.
I dont know why I even bother anymore. What a load of absolute bollocks. Wenger needs his fucking head checked.
i hope he deosnt take diaby……
at last, ransey, now get simpson or vela on too
what is he doing?
HE BRINGS OFF GAVIN HOYTE!?!?!?!?!?
Song at right back then??
fucking hell Wenger, I love ya to death, but you’re killing me here!!
Fucking Wenger lost it for us again. Selection was terrible. Why does he insist on playing Nik when Vela outshines him everytime. Stubborn french bastard.
if ramsey is who we are putting our hope on then we are fucked
wenger WHAT ARE U DOING!!!!
Bentner is total crap. He should go along with Wenger
Ramsey singlehandedly taking us forward, and bendtner fucks it up. Take him off man
get bendtner off ffs
Hoyte off??????
wats happening?
WENGER HAS FUCKING LOST IT. Abso”fucking”lutely Lost it.
AARON RAMSEY !!!
I can not understand… wouldnt mean investing in players means success and success means money …..
WHAT R U DOING CLICHY!
Give the boy a chance franchise – he can’t be worse than the rest!
We really don’t deserve this. Bentner out!!! How long intil we all see this?
Week after week it’s the same old same old.
We are screwed……………………………..
do most of you still think gallas cant complain ??? or shouldnt ???
fuck … its like the pot calling the kettle black !
me included !!!
i saw the match 1st half, how could he possibly go with song?
Bendtner has totally lost confidence. 3 months ago, he would have hit that first time.
Something is wrong in the state of Denmark ……
the worse thing, bendtner wants more first team games
Clichy has lost the plot
Ramsey and Wilshere should have started. Diaby should have been in the middle, hes better there. Nasri is the only one doing anything. Bendtner is playing poorly, he should not be playing, get simpson or vela in there PLEASE!!
Wenger should fine these players, they aren’t pulling their weight at all.
How is Song still on and Hoyte off, I think we need a new manager as well as a new captain, he’s acting like a fucking mad person now.
Nearly 3…
ethan i dont say he shudnt complain, but the way he did was disgraceful
The worst thing about this whole situation is there is nothing Wenger can do…
Well… bar playing the kids.
i dont know whether to laugh or cry at the moment
clichy is becoming the weak link… i said it last week and he proved me right today… no matter how hard working he is he messed up in cruciall moments
Can you believe, i have to go out…
This is all so very very sad, Catch you soon all, be safe
RVP you ass how many times are you gonna lose the ball?
Clichy has only really been doing mistakes this season, hes never been this mistake prone at all
Sion he usually makes up for the mistake unlike that ass RVP
VELAAAAAAAAAAAA!
They’re already saying on the radio now – there isn’t a top four any more, its now a top three!
Wenger giveth and Wenger taketh away…..
Have we done something to upset you Arsene and you’re just getting your own back??
geoff, he has lost the plot, he doesn’t know when to change…. why is vela still on the bench and song should be off and jack in…..
Carlos Vela coming on now, soon he HAS to bring on Wilshere, at least give him some minutes please, stop trying to fuckin protect him, hes a tough boy.
btw look whose playing in the center…DIABY…arsene you ass atlast you get it..
That offside goal was terrible keeping…
carlos vela, come on son do what it is we all think u can do,
NOOOOOOO….not DIABY
bendtner is the crappiest forward arsenal has ever had
fuckkkk me diaby is offff this is bullshit…….
amazing, song is still on and diaby is off now
a club that has a wage bill of over £100 million is reying on a 17 yr old teen to win an away match
I do not understand what AW is doing
pedro
vela – ramsey jack all have class about them all are being over looked ..
dont you think out of desperation wenger needs to try something different ?
its well over due if you ask me !? !
How is Song still on?? He’s been horrible!!
fucking hell man. Come on Wenger, you are better than this!!
Song, denilson, Bendtener and RVP suck off arsene every morning….did I miss Eboue…oh he services him every night
I haven’t seen aNY OF THE GAME BUT i’M NOT AT ALL SUPRISED BY THE SCORE.
sorry about the caps lock. we need to make sure we qualify for the uefa cup I’m afraid.
I reakon we start a petition to have the club sign some cunt over 20yrs in the transfer window, if not we can all line up and kick AW and Song in the balls
Gallas is looking like an Arsenal Legend now in my eyes
Denilson looks like he needs his mummy
The fucking spuds will overtake us soon, this is shit, the two worst players out there are still out there, Wenger’s fucking ill.
This is a dreadful performance
Definitely Ethan… it’s not a top 4 solution though… and I am pretty pissed off that we all called it this season and once again it’s going down the shitter.
I just don’t get some of the Coaches decisions?
Fuck me… Elano is a Man City sub…
man city are having a training session at the moment….
Silvestre wrong career move
its too late to bring these young kids on now, 2 down !
its like a recipe for failure !
you might get something from them if they arent under pressure to peg goals back !
What the verdict on Gallas now!? he is right. It was insane to remove our best defender for today no matter what the hell he said.
I think we are quite lucky it is only 2
Gllas = Arsenal legend
At least he gives his all, unlike these fucks. We’re out of top 4. Mark my words. We havn’t been this bad for a LOOONG time.
haha alex song your a joke….
One of our players will get a red card …they are frustrated
It’s bad enough for us watching on our PC’s, what about the poor Gooners that have gone there?
They deserve their money back after this shit…………………..
How many times in a game does Song give it away?
Adebayor Arsnal legend
well… flamini must be chuckling at the moment…..
well thats hughes safe till xmas at least!
Well said ethan. We aren’t relying on a 17 year old to win an away match. If at all, he should have been played from the start, not given the extra pressure of coming on a 2 down. We are relying on a manager who has lost it……….
Looks like my feed is too slow, so my comments come in late. I will shut up and watch, but am still keeping a watch on your blog
Song has lookled better at CM. And Djourou has had a decent game
Great clearance by Djourou
them cunts at MotD is going to show this game first. they love showing our games first when we lose.
wilshire needs to come on.
Wrighty NO they dont …what were they thinking going supporting a shit manager with crapy players
we’re getting raped!
Well done JD!!!!!!!
At least we have an easy game next week!!!!!!!
Oh fuck its Chelsea, we are going to get slaughtered
Colonel… Gallas made his position untenable. You can’t have someone cunt off the whole team then play…
Sky are actually taking the piss out of us… oh the shame…
Djourou the man. well done
the danish national team must be crap if bendtner plays for them
i mean i still cannot believe he went with song and denilson
i gotta say if i was in the ground id be leaving early !
this is the 1st time this season i dont even feel like watching !
i cant bare to watch any more !
Well Done Djourou
lol rvp
only two players who were there djourou and clichy…thats heart and passion…the rest canfeck off
What do you think he’s saying to Pat Rice? Hey Pat, I was right, we didn’t need anyone did we, and I saved loads of money, aren’t I clever?
How does this prove Gallas right? He helped cause this!!
yes pass sideways..tahts what we all see arsenal play for…goals are not important …Jackasses
This is gonna sound mental but I really hope Manchester United smash Aston Villa.
Improves our top four chances………….
the only players we should keep are
ramsey
vela
fabregas
walcott
nasri
eduardo
djorou
clichy
sagna
the rest can just fuck off
Pedro
Foxsports are doing the same… just down right taking the piss outa us!
I cant wait for the post match excuses! god they will be funny
Dunno about the ref, but the manager’s a wanker……………..
Geoff. please stop im to pissed off to laugh. and ur comment is making me laugh lol
Either Wenger Declares that he will buy some World Class Players in Jan, and that he was wrong, or he can Fuck Off and get someone in that will buy some World Class Players.
I am now seriously considering kidnapping Song, it is the only way he wont get a game.
I don’t know Pedro it could have been sorted internally very easily. We have too much quailty out for today. At least Chav and Poo drawing for now….
Thats Fab off in the summer. add gallas to the list. 5 years w/o the title we are truly out of the picture now
I bet we score in the last minute but lose 2-1
wtf clichy
what a shower of SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the fans are still singing ,JD AND CLICHY THE REST TO MOVE AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It looks like Gallas was removed for having the temerity to criticize Wenger’s children…….
The press conference will be interesting.
rvp dane song denilson are absent … no presence and jack boy should be in
No Geoff he is saying…Pat you must try Denislon and Songs services…they can suck me off better than Eboue
The 2 worst players song & denilson stay on. Bendtner is poor. I cannot understand the decisions by the manager.
I suppose this shite will be the supporter’s fault again…….
I said that last weekend Wrighty, I hope that the top 3 take points of our rivals for 4th. Fuck the league that went last week, its all about damage limitation till Jan
Avenell u r being silly
haha to all the hleb, famini haters
yeah Fab will go, and we wont replace him! we will just slot the awesome song straight into his position..
JD20 has a a good game for me
What’s pat doing back on here – I thought he was binned after the last spate of insults. Geoof, get rid of the prick, we’ve got enough on our plate………..
i cant see who it would come from wrighty?
Was Denmark in the last euros pat?
well with hleb and flamini.. we won nothing as well
I think its about time someone actually told wenger how we feel. Losing 5 before december coompared to lsing none in 03-04. Now thats proper progress.
kompany was a steal for that price ..
Sorry about Pat. He is Polziano from ACLF… in disguise for some reason?
That is the second time he has broken the rules… he has been tin-tacked as Geoff would say.
I really do think that it is a disgrace that Song is wearing an Arsenal Shirt that he did not pay for in the club shop. He is so Shit
Y isnt Adebayor playin?
RVP!!! tut tut..
we really get this month out of the way… the curse of november is back
if we do want to maintain top 4 finish, we have to go on a amazing run next month
im going to bed guys, ive stayed up to 3am to watch this utter fucking shit……………sigh that sums up our night…………..that was a goal!
ethangunner
i still cant understand why we didnt try and get Kompany. he can play CB & CM.
I bet wenger drops JD20 & keeps song in the team.
lol wtf
hahaha nice trick RVP
choy
at least we got the highest position in league standings (3rd) we’ve had since the loss of the invincibles ,with hleb and flamini in the team .. we will struggle to stay in the top 4 this season .
no heart or commitment the wheels have come off half this team i would get rid of and we have chelsea next so another defeat to look foward to.
lol…thanks R.V.P….a little comedy in a stupid shit game…ahahaha…o lord
RVP if you cant score goals….so please dont embarass us…
HAHAHA yep fantastic!
PENALTY
dont worry guys apparently we r getting two new players in Jan. a guy from croatia and another from the chech rep. heard good things about them… u see arsene knows
No Franchise but they beat England 4-0, and Portugal this year
No Djourou penalty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To CITY
another loss
sigh..
Penalty… oh no.
omg A PEN
The MADNESS CONTINUESS!!!!!!!
0-3… fucking shocking.
so fucking narrow
0-3 Fuck!!!!!!
raif
6 m is too much to spend !
wonder what bollocks wenger will come up with post match !!!
i can hardly wait !!!
i wonder if he will use the ‘ i still believe we can win the title this season ‘
whats Djourou complaining about….
wow this is disgusting, it really is!
We didnt just get beat…we got SPANKED….and WHAT IS YOUR FUKING EXCUSE PEOPLE????
DID CITY PLAY “DEFENSIVELY”???? THEY SURE AS SHIT PLAYED ATTACKING FOOTBALL!
Pat, read the rules on engagement and have a think about them.
You don’t abuse a fellow Grover.
im loving this in a bad way. if our fortune is gonna change we need nights like these
http://www.whitehartpain.com/2008/11/gallas-and-arsenal-biggest-joke-of-all.html
The thing is, maybe this is right…………..Sadly
RIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wenger transfer fuck up of th season
he let go silva instead give him two season contract
he could have kept flamini for more money
he could have got appiah for free maybe he still can
he kept a captain who lost respect of the dressing room
he keep puting faith on shity players
I dont care what anyone says, Wenger created this, he has to go
there you go wrighty theres your last minute goal
Yeh Pat. Go & abuse your mate wenger
fucking sell the whole team!!!!
Wenger, we all wanted Kompany and you said you didn’t need him?
Surely you have to admit that we need help now Arsene?
Arsene in his french Accent….
i beleive its too early…we can still compete…and the young boys are doing well…lets wait and see..
Well said Gallas…ure a legend
the only way we can get saved if some arab rich fellas come down and buy us out and sort it out them selves
pat u r right…. i think gallas pointed out only the obvious…..
See, told ya Ethan!
Geoff and or Pedro and or anyone, WHAT ON EARTH DO YOU SEE IN BENDNTER
HE MISSES CHANCES
CAN’T READ THE GAME
BAD FIRST TOUCH
EGO BIGGER THAN RONALDO
NOT A TEAM PLAYER
Please answer, as i’d like to see what im missing
i dont think gallas did anything wrong…
he was being truthfull thats all
Willy I feel your pain. U are an Arsenal Legend
this was the chance to close the gap instead they messed it up….. chelase & liverpool drew …. hopefully aston villa will lose and will kepp our spot….
Dropping Gallas for today’s game just proves that Arsene has thrown in the towel. We had 8 first teamers out and u still drop Gallas one of ur best defenders. Wheres the rationale
I’ve had to leave a comment on that Spurs link.
The fucking twats think are taking the piss.
What Gallas Said was right. 100% we all new it. but everyonr in the media wanted to jump on him for making it public. end of they day it proves we was right all along and what ever wenger said about how clos the team is and all that otherbullshit was a pack of lies.
WENGER KING OF SPIN… he should be a politician
Absolutely terrible.
Only JD, can hold his head up after that performance. Diaby was OK, as was Silvetre Everyone else was awful
Ramsey lifted the team when he came on, but it was too little too late
I am not at all surprised,one could see the wholw team is low on confidence,denilson looked like he was going to cry.Almunia has lost it,so has rvp,song and bedntner never had it.djorou did his best.it could have been 5,a sad sad day for all the fans and now what will wenger say or more likely do,and to rub it in both chelsea and liverpool only draw.
there is no solution at present,we are in for a difficult time.
Kiev on Tuesday anyone?
Gallas was wrong but he didnt organise a party where a gal was raped, neither did he kick any stewards. He says certain players dont respect their teammates and he gets stripped of captaincy and dropped from the team. Silly silly
Gallas DID do something wrong, he broke the code, you can’t do that.
I however believe he was right, this bunch of players in the first team are pussies.
put the CC team on…
franc… maybe gallas didnt want to play once he has been informed that he is being dropped…. he should never have been captain in th 1st place… he was never an arsenal player…. this is all wenger fault and no else…. we will see who will be the next captain
chozzer oh we will beat Kiev ….march into the next round and get mauled there
Big Raddy also Ramsey is a lil too young and inexperienced
im ganna be at the Kiev Game. im not looking forword to it at all.
im not even going to wear my Arsenal Shirt either as i dont want to get laughed at by people when im going to the game or when im on my way home
we really lacked a cutting edge didnt we. It is incredibly odd that teams are just allowed to foul us though. It’s like repetitive fouling is no longer a yellow card. Last week villa fouled us twice as much as nearly every other premiership team did their opposition, and this week although not quite as much man city still gave away the most fouls of the weekend so far, and not a single booking!
CC Team would have lost by at least 6 they might have scored one or two
exactly what i have been saying please can u fuck off bendtner i take back what i said about championship player more like a league 1 or two player
all of you that were on my Arse because i spoke the truth about Bentner and his level of shittism…
I was a defender of Song…I didnt think he was that bad….But we have been here before people…Wenger has to be Mad…or Insane….
A midfield with Song and Denilson…Will never create chances….we have always lost with those two playing…I hate to say this…but we are missing Eboue….shit…we miss Ade….and to think that SOng provd to be so distinctively shite it speaks volumes that Wenger is old and Senile..to play these players…
Was there any doubt we were going to loose with this kind of midfield?
bini…I agree with you…making gallas a captain was a decision made to have him saty at arsenal….Arsene doesnt know shit about defence and thought Gallas was the ideal man there..
He should have given it to toure and bought a decent Header with Toure after Campbell left
maybe he should have brought the carling cup kids…. I am sure they would got a result… instead playing that shit Big Dane why not play simpson….
Rob I never said he was any good, Gallas and his mouth contributed to this shit and don’t forget Gallas was playing last week.
This one’s on the manager, he been at Arsenal too long.
That’s me gone, how fucking depressing.
Dropping Gallas for today’s game shows how out of order Gallas has been..
denilson is having such an awful game, so so so horrible!!! so is song, but well, he is always shite, and runs as slow as an elephant,both giving possesion away cheaply.
then again the whole team was giving the ball away.
bendtner is so easy to defend against!
i think rvp, although wasnt playing well is actually showing drive and you can see he is trying his best to help the team.
ramsey is the best player on the pitch.
chelsea and liverpool drew, at least if we win we could close in on the gap,
but heck, our season is over anyway, the top 3 teams are no concern to us now, it’s the mid table teams we have to be aware of..
sigh..
5 years no league title. bad. lets take the CC seriously it might prove to be our only chance of silverware.
difficult times and i am afraid buying one or two isnt going to solve anything.
Wenger saw that playing Hleb on the wings helped, and so he tries it with Diaby and Nasri, why the fuck.
Hleb left because of that only, and I am baffled on how Song gets a start alongside Denilson.
On a lighter note I have Robinho and Ireland in my fantasy team, and I dropped Almunia Gallas and Denilson! Result!
the only players out of the starting 11 I would want remaining in the team after this…
Clichy
Diaby
Djouoru
Nasri
Thats it and this is not just based on this game…
oh and Diaby was c r a p!
Wenger wont change guys, once a revoluntionary has now turned into a senile old fool and football has overtaken him
The only way is up, but that way has to be without Wenger. it is time for change, the Manager, Assistant Manager and Coaching Setup needs fresh ideas.
Enough is Enough
fuck franchise i dont want the first team anywhere near the CC.. they might fuck that up as well
i have a soft spot for mancity
Seb
i got Robinho and Ireland in my fantasy team aswell lol
Me too Seb, I binned all my Arsenal players from the dream team, a good call I think
choy..hahahaha …In all seriousness I agree
Djourou had a good game, and more than justified his inclusion. Hoyte was decent today aswell, which was good to see. Ramsey showed why he should have started the game. Silverstre did his best. Clichy tried and tried but kept fucking up unfortunately. Even Diaby was ok at times, and Nasri was trying to make something happen for the first hour or so.
As for the rest of those pussies…..
Song, Denilson, RVP, Bendtner, should be fined for that shit. How did they not come off the field?? They were terrible, and justified Gallas’ claims that this team are not warriors and they are not behaving like determined professionals. That’s why Gallas did what he did, even though he messed it up even futher by going about it the way that he did. He deserved what he got. But he was right.
Wenger should cut these guys off and play the kids. They seem to have more fight, more team spirit and togetherness, and more skill. If Cesc is gonna be the captain, he had better light a fire up under the arse of his team
Folks, It should be clear that we are not a top 4 team, There is no top 4 anymore, what u have is a Top 3 club.
At the start of the season a lot of Groovers made a laugh of Tottenham, now we can look ourselves in the mirror and its not funny. At least the Totfs had the men, but the coach could not blend them. In our case, the men are lacking and the coach is crap. Yes, a coach that fileds Bendnter for 90mins is nothing short of crap.
My advice to Groovers. I know you love this team a lot, but take it easy, don;t let this affect your blood pressure. Understand that we will not make the first 4 and we will drop to mid tabe at best. If we buy the assets we need in Jan, maybe, but don;t expect too much, assets take time to blend!! You need to keep voicing your displeasure though till the board does the right thing. Arsene should be sacked, period.
Gunner 8 …
are you serious..what were you watching…from all the players you pick on Diaby being crap…think again…the only guy I was happy to have in the team apart from djourou and clichy
geoff.. i am not good with numbers and have one question… if a team that spends 20-40 mil on players and wins a tournment such as PL OR CL, wouldnt they get back the investment… so where os wenger coming from saying he can not spend money….
Agree CG and so should the Board. Fuck the lot of them
well we can all really look forward to MOTD can’t we
the smugness might be a bit too unbearable tbh
I’m starting to remember again what it feels like to support Arsenal when we are inconsistent and infuriating… mid table finish anyone?
ROB
WELL FUCKING SAID . I CAN NOT SEE ANYTHING IN BENTNER AT ALL , NO FIRST TOUCH , NO PACE , NOWHERE THERE QUALITY THAT SHOULD PLAY FOR THE ARSENAL .
If anyone thinks this team is anywhere near the team of 2004 , they are mad , How far backwards have we gone .
THIS IS BECAUSE WE FAILED TO BUY THE PLAYERS PROMISED IN THE SUMMER . YES FAILED . NO EXCUSES . THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH .
HENRY , BERG , PIRES , PV 4 TO BENTNER , DENILSON AND SONG
DON,T MAKE ME FUCKING LAUGH
Seb yeah those days…urghhh…why of why
Why not start with Ramsey? surely he is a like for like player replacement for Cesc as is Wilshire for Walcott?
Barazite will be back in jan to cover for Walcott woopee, he is alright but we need some serious players FFS
We are a laughing stock
In the words of my two mates up there “this is shit!”
SO VERY VERY SAD. WENGER IT’S TIME TO GO!!!
5 Losses already and we have not been to OT, SB, AF or WHL.
Fuck
We need massive squad investment in Jan, I thought we were only a couple short but I fear it is worst that I thought
Appiah on a free is a must right now. we need class
boring boring arsenal… of a different kind.. what side can say they play attacking football when they make so little chances
Bendtner did alot of running today, and rvp tried but its hard for strikers to get involved without creativity from midfield… we miss the rosicky type player that can find the final ball in our style of play..and ffs wenger should know by now bendtner and rvp DONT WORK WELL TOGETHER.. they never have.
Nasri had an alright start but faded in the game… still doesnt travel well
Well we all know now it was cesc making denilson look good, not denilson making cesc look bad..Denilson had the most woeful game..And song…..can anyone tell me where he adds value.. he slows play down and only passes backwards… We all knew this cm pairing would provide no decent ball to our strikers
I dont know where diaby fits in a 442.. Its stupid to play him on the right, we hav no width and hes quite lazy at tracking back… If hes supposed to be a cm then bloody well play him there wenger… Our cms today played shite.. i cant remember one pass splitting the city defence until ramsey came on..
Speaking of ramsey, what else does this kid have to do to get a start? If wenger keeps saying the boys are good enough well put ur money where ur mouth is and start them!
Clichy had an ok game,but needs to stop fooling around n play more no-nonsense at the back. DJ had a pretty solid game.. the penalty was unlucky but overall i think he was one of our best.. same with silvestre…dunno about hoyte, putting him up against robinho was stupid in first place..
The thing is: this team is incapable of playing the passing game wenger swears by. Every time we pass up to the oppositions box we then cant find the final ball or shoot. Past arsenal teams were way more efficient and faster.. we hit more on the break more than anything else.. why dont we do that now?
Until January when we can buy the players we need; we should be trying a new formation. 433 or 4231 or something that will allow us to attack quicker.. coz teams know they just have to conjest midfield and put 10 behind the ball to stop our play.. we need to be faster..
And what happend to picking players on form.. vela is doing wonders in reserves.. give him a start with rvp ffs
Any thoughts
Arsenal = Mental Fragile Playing Ground
someone shoot denilson and beg flamini to come back
a part of me is glad were fucking up like this.
its the Wake up call Wenger needs. as when were winning it proves his right in NOT buying players. right in NOT playing players in there right postions. and right in feeding us bullshit as always.
pat… wenger will never go for appia for fear of undermining his precious young players….
League wise lets forget it this season… Cascarino might be correct when he said that Wenger would never win the league again
Even Chelsea and the dippers drew at home, how many more chances are they going to give us?
i am fucking sick of Wenger. I would have punched him if I was sat in Pat Rices chair this afternoon.
He needs to go before he ruins all his good memories. Hero to Zero
Raif
That’s how I’m looking at the situation. It’s the only way I can think of it in a positive way.
I wonder what the excuse is today ?
Atlanta, a stream that went in and out whenever the ball got near the goal, I am a big fan of Diaby but everything he touched went to the opp and he would go non a dribble without the ball… …so IMO not great but considering I got about 60% of the game because I am at work I agree I should’t comment, but when I saw him I would say he was shit.
fuck.. look what 32 mill gets you…
Wenger knows…
….fuck all.
Let the kids go to school
well said mwt.
January is the final straw for Wenger I think, as some of you have said, he MUST know in his heart now that he can’t rely on these players. It’s not even about their age with some of them, it’s about their resilience and quality, or rather lack of.
Three signings, preferably record signings as well, all over £10m, all proven quality, all made very clear that they are part of a new wave of players coming in to the Arsenal to bring back the glory days again. We have the funds, we have the income to pay good wages, we have the stadium, the support, the training facilities – and we still have a manager who can get the best out of players.
But you can’t get blood out of a stone Arsene.
Pat
The problem for me is , we don,t know if we actually have any money to spend or not .
IF WE DONT , then no one could do a better job than Arsene on a tight or no budget
so no point in wanting him to go .
IF WE DO , and has just has ,nt spent it as he thinks his squad is enough , THEN
maybe sadly it is time .
SAD DAY FOR ME .
Its good to know that there are good managers out there like Mark Hughes. For those of u that think if Arsene leaves we would crumble. Wake up. There are at leat 5-10 managers out there that can take the club forward.
Paul88
what makes it worse is i feel a little bad for thinking like that as i dont want to be glad were losing. as like all of us we want to win more then every thing.
BUT on a better note im getting better results from my arsenal team in my
Football Manager Game. maybe thats Bcos i got
ARTETA, CANA, METZELDER and APPIAH
Raif – I agree with you, someone else said we have to hit rock bottom before we can begin again,
I suspect we still have further to tumble before Arsene takes action.
Pedro – did you say earlier that loaning players can happen any time?
Lay off Ramsey – he did nothing wrong and his age is irrelevant, only performances matter. There are plenty of things to moan about so don’t waste time criticising someone who is a victim of this situation, not the cause….
GEOFF
Do we actually have funds available or is this having to raise money every window to pay debts thing true ??
i dont think wenger should be sacked asap.. he should be given till say end of feb.. That way we can see who he buys in Jan.. And also if he changes the way we play or keeps being a stubborn arrogant twat
Bollocks to it ……………
peachesgooner
the signs was on the wall many seasons ago. was have been going side ways now its just plain old backwords.
I will slit my wrists if I stay on here!
It is clear that Wenger must sign the experience and strength needed or go, MWT is correct in every way.
Try to have a nice weekend gooners!
Gunner 8 …yes he wasnt good tonight..but he was playing on the right….He is a Central midfielder….he did show heart in going forwrad…I remember one instance when Bendtner received the ball on the left and had no one around him…Diaby was storming forward in the box ….where were the rest…alas bendtner lost the ball…look the guy is good unlike Song and denilson and hence my outrage on your comments…Sorry…
but keeping diaby out of his position by playing song and denison there or even nasri(he is an attacking midfirelder) out of that place is criminal…
next time please give your explaination besides just posting a statement like someone is crap….that way others will understand why….thanks again for explaining
we’re all bitchslapped by Wenger’s arrogance but he will probably be the last one to wake up. Either that or there’s something dramatic going on behind the scenes, like we actually lost all our money in the stock market or some sh!t like that.
Raif – I think we should all use your avatar for a couple of days
I agree that we have to accept for a multitude of reasons wenger being the prime one this team will do nothing this season.confidence is low,the majority are young players but a special mention to bedntner as he has to be one of the worst forwards i have ever seen at arsenal.i called for simpson last week,at least he is direct and we have nothing to lose.
just listened to wenger who said the usual and that ccity didn’t create many chances,there is nothing wrong with our team,the passion is there,and i will not discuss the captain issue.he has lost the plot.
Rasputinlast week – “we are a team in decline and will be lucky to finish 4th” – do you want to tell me I’m wrong again?….. (the grover in question knows who I am referring to!)
INVINCIBLES TO …. ERM …???????????
anyone ?
Wenger has always said he’ll quit when he stops enjoying it. He can’t be enjoying this, can he?
We have all got to grin and bear it for the next month or so basically.
January is traditionally never a good month for us re transfers, Wenger hates it, but surely it will be viewed as pretty crucial this time.
At the VERY least, if they are not going to spend in January we need to be told what is happening. That there will be a radical overhaul of the squad in the summer, some players will be leaving and others will form part of a side that includes new signings of top quality. Or that we are just going to plod on with the same players and accept mid-table finishes from now on.
But I can’t see the board enduring this crumbling of our good reputation in world football, not if they have any sense whatsoever. You would think we have to spend in January.
Wenger won’t get sacked because the board and him agreed to pursue this youth policy, but they might insist on a different direction, actually using the funds he has.
I’ll be honest I still think Wenger has plenty to give as a manager, but the team needs drastic shoring up now, the current crop have shown they are brittle, without Cesc we don’t create, sure injuries haven’t helped us at all, but it’s much deeper than that.
Testing times…. testing times….
Well Arsene the question is are you going to realise that these players are at least 18months away from being good enough? Something we all knew in the summer yet you maintained they could challenge.
Arsene, you have been proved wrong, now lets see if your pride is going to ruin the potential of the young talents we have available to us?
peachesgooner
here u go fella
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this is really desperate stuff I’m afraid. At least it’s only 10 points
we have been Grining and bearing it for the last 4 seasons.
I’m just hoping that the situation is similar to the Roy Keane one at Manchester United.
He was booted out for being outspoken but look at United now?
Pedro and Geoff why cant you be brave and say enough is enough. I love your blog but I hate the way you say you dont think Wenger should be sacked. The mans not up to it any longer so why do you give him your support. In any other club he would be gone long ago, thats how it is in football. Be brave and say it, he has to go.
Wenger says we are not in crisis and he won’t talk about Gallas..
“Why is everyone making a political issue out of it”
It’s simple. We all hope Michael P is correct. If Wenger buys sensibly in January, he will restore some faith – if the new players don’t deliver us CL footbal next season, at least we will see that Wenger tried. If he doesn’t buy, we can justifiably say that its time he went.
Hello all, I am sad, very sad. AW has to now see how bad a crop of players we have. I thought they would play well today, but I guess emotions were high.
No excuse I know, but, no
Ade
Cesc
Bac
Theo
Eboue
Kolo
5 first teamers out, and with such a small squad, it showed
We lack depth for sure, and in January we need four ‘big players’ now, just to get us up to being decent
I would also seriously consider selling a few, those who time and time get given a chance, but fail so dismally.
Hopefully things can only get better, but I dont know how long it will take me to get better
Perhaps we really don’t have any money to spend?
you dont QOF…
we are shit
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ur exactly right queen i think it comes down to pride with wenger… and its partly our fault to.. we were so blinded with the success he brought, the akbs made him untouchable and now he thinks hes bigger than the club a aristocracy anyone?
The board is toothless.. they’re happy if they’re making money…
We;re all saying give him to jan (myself included) to see who he buys be deep down we all know hesgunna roll out the “having eduardo and rosicky back is like having 2 new signings therefore we need no1, we will win the league 24 points behind, you have to be optimistic”
If we dont have money to spend, then the Board have fucked up. And why would they say that Wenger can spend 30m on one player if he likes.
It does not add up, I can’t see how we dont have money,
Go get APPIAH – he is free and much better than SONG…..
sorry for shouting
JUST WHAT DOES WENGER SEE IN SONG?
i feel better now
And we did apparently bid for a few players Inler, Alonso, Yaya so the money must be there, we just did not spend it…..
Rico to be honest i don’t think Arsene has the humility, if that’s the word, to make any drastic change in January.
As I said the other week, this team is alot worse than the 2006/2007 team. And that team only made sure of a top four place at the end.
We’ve lost two of our best players in the summer and replaced them with inferior players. It’s not rocket science.
Paulie lets not turn us into Spurs or Newscastle. We need to get the quality players back in the side asap but the transfer policy has to change, NOBODY OUT …only additions. Very lucky for Poo and Chavs to draw…..
Rico. Song well never get droped by wenger. i dont know what Song is doing for wenger to pick him but what ever it is id love to know. then again maybe i dont.
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we’ve lacked dept for 4 years, thats the sad part.. Back in 2003 and so wenger wasnt concerned with bringing in so many youngsters… Its as if now he’s using the club for his own ‘pet project’ NO-ONE should be bigger than the club
I agree with the Colonel. No one out. We need players IN. Let those kids that are good enough fight for their places.
lol raif
Paulie sacking the manager is always the easiest solution, but it isn’t always the right one is it, look around the premiership, people have always raved on about how managers should be given plenty of time in the job like Ferguson and Wenger have been. We have a good set-up at the club from top to bottom, the problem is that the players AW clearly had faith in, are turning out to either be a) shit or b) incapable of turning it on without mature experienced players in the team as well.
We know he can bring in quality, he knows the game, he knows players, but the big question now is whether he will bring in quality players or not. If not, then maybe it’s better if he goes, but it is a big BIG decision to take.
Remember as well he is doing what he AND the board decided on, bringing the young players through, so neither side will want to pull the plug on it just yet.
Isaac
raif peaches is a lady mate
my stream wasn’t good but who gave away the penalty and did he get booked.
Hey fellow sufferers
Lets face it wenger wont spend in january and even if he does, it will be a player with potential. Wenger is too stubborn!
Hey Raif!
Djourou gave away the pen – no booking though
JD gave away the peno.
kelsey
lol Oops. i kinda guessed but didnt really think about it.
He also played like the guy from Scrubs probably would.
is anyone listing to talkShite?
The 3 (include Gilberto) players we ‘lost’ in the summer wanted to leave – we couldn’t keep them (possibly Flam if we’d have made a good offer before Xmas?) The crime was not replacing all of them with equal quality.
colonel m, if we dont get new players we are going to be spurs. these guys arnt good enough and never will be. they arnt new players that need time, theyve been around a few years now and totally lack bottle. Wenger will never admit hes wrong and lets face it “he is wrong”. The man will not buy the players needed in january so dont fool yourself that he will. its simple, he has to go, no more excuses, its over for him.
just heard a great comment
you can’t play kids with boys
kelsey
djourou gave away the penalty.
I daren’t put TS on…there is no need to wallow in this misery.
Although for you youngsters out there, i’m sort of pleased for you in a peverse way. This is like being an old school Arsenal fan. Back when we were crap.
mwt
Depth has always been our problem…so much so the players you see in our first team are actually reserve team players from the youth system bout couple years back…
depth was our problem last season…we got injuries and nobody stepped in…now wots our excuse?
kelsey
hahahahahahaha, you can’t play kids with boys i like that.
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Fuck, I’d like to be on whatever those ACLF bloggers are on. Talk about every cloud…..
I’ve had it with wenger now, I’ve resisted saying it but I’ve come to an end with him. Not that he’ll get the sack tho.
it’s weird that these players were good enuff to beat man u but shite against other sides..i think its got more to do with the way we play these days and how teams counteract our 1 and only game plan. Man U came to play and lost… The other sides break up of passing flow and wait for their chance and taek it.. Soon as we’re one down we get rattled and push forward and it plays into their hands
Hello Rasputin – don’t you need to be careful opening a discussion about the players that left in the summer?
I’m worried that Arsene will draw hope from the fact that the chavs and the bindippers dropped points, you know ‘its a long season’ ‘anything can happen’. . . . . .
QoS don’t we remember those barren years.i wish we were back at highbury.How many games this season have we conceded first,i have lost count.
no one should be surprised at our form but all the teams we have lost to are struggling themselves.
That’s experience for you MWT or rather lack of it.
Experienced pros know how to respond to being one down and know what’s its like to come back from being one down – our boys don’t.
Sadly at this rate, they’re never going to find out either!
I miss Hleb….
It took Man U 7 years for Fergus face to win the League and look where stability got them.
Newcastle and the Spuds have had a new manager every year, look where it’s got them..
Be very careful what you wish for!!!
mwt i agree. It’s more than foolish for arsene to play a team that can only win an open game week in week out against teams that realistically have to play 10 men behind the ball to stand any chance and then complain about it. That’s the kind of whining 10 year-olds do.
I miss Flamini . . . . . .
rasputin,,, at the end of last season he said he will keep the whole team plus add two or three players,,,, he loses thee players +++ othere firnge players… and he had one quality player in Samir…
so he had money to spend plus income from the sale of the two players… so easily he could add up couple players without over spending….. he is toostubborn
RVP misses the goal…
avenell it is fine to have stability but at least evry theree or mas four season ur team nee to win one of the major siklverwere at the moment it does not it looks we are goint to win with this team……
avenell
……and if we carry on like this we’ll be competing with the likes of the spuds and newcastle.
Anyway i’m off, had enough of this.
Its time for wenger to go seriously, he has taken the team backwards by 2 years in the space of 6 months!
Bendtner misses the ball
Avenell fergie has reamained at the helm for so long cos he adapts his management as the times change. if wenger chooses to persist rather than adapt then he has to leave. things wld be ok for a while if wenger keeps qualifying in the top 4. even thatis at risk now
well let us get use to lose……
I have just got back from the Twelve Pins where they showed the game live. All the favourites, the pet projects and the sacred cows have now gone; we have hit rock bottom; we are now on survival mode. Wenger has to accept that his grand plan has not worked and revert to the kind of team he employed shortly after he arrived: a combination of youth and experience. This is no time to be calling for his head. There is a place worse than where we are now and that is White Heart Lane.
Hi Peaches – I have a problem with folks whose main agenda is to prove themselves right over some issue from the past rather than discuss what’s best for the future of our club. I think I’m being realistic by saying we’ll do well to finish fourth and at the moment we are in decline. IMHO, new players and a reality check from the manager are what is required. If this doesn’t happen, either the board will have got their way and had a huge payday from some foreign investor or AW should go.
and avenell
wenger has been here for like 12 years!
We agree bini……
It’s impossible to replace someone like Hleb. You don’t get anyone like him in world football. Especially when you don’t spend money. Nasri is no mug and score goals but is not in the same league as Hleb in terms of joining in with play. That’s what’s fucking us up. No ability to put pressure on teams in their half with pass and move football, hence the constant breakdowns and counter attacks.
Flamini should have been easy to replace with money. But no, we ‘ve got Song and Denilson. Denilson would’t even get into Hulls team.
The Hleb and Fabregas combination has been holding us up for the last two years. The big crime is that Wenger just the let the rest collapse around him and filled up the squad with incompetants and unproven youngsters.
Our possessiong game was our brandmark. When that collapses the whole team has c ollective collapse.
We will finish 6th this season unless Wenger brings in some players in Jan.
If I think logically, which is pretty hard if you try to justify the team selections today, I think if Hleb had been played at the center we would have won the league.
Hleb is ths player most missed , he was more intelligent than a myth creature having as big a head as song’s whole body. His runs were awesome, backed up by never say never attitude of Flamini.
I was wrong to abuse Hleb and Flamini in the past, I regret it very much. The current playing 11 make me sick, almost all of them.
I think RVP is not shit, he is just looking shit among shit, same with clichy, fabregas, nasri and diaby.
For god sake its enough from Bendtner, Song and Denilson, Buy attacking players and defensive.
Imo we need one center back, one midfielder and one striker/attacking mid at the least.
Eboue looks like maradona in front of song.
We won nothing with Hleb and he wanted to go. On top of that he did his best to unsettle Cesc. He is not setting the world on fire at Barca so why don’t we just forget about him because he’s not coming back – I’m so bored with this…..
If Wenger wasn’t manager of Arsenal.. He would be my first choice in the world anyway..
We already have the best, let’s see how he sorts this crisis out, before we out him!!
I’m not saying never but let’s not go down the Spuds route..
dont hold you breath paulinho
Paulinho, enough with the Hleb thing. Thanks
rasputin, if we stick with this team without someone like hleb we will not see champions league football for a decade.
Who cares whether unsettled Cesc. We’re talking about reasons why we are so shit.
I think Wenger losing his mind around the time Hleb joined is more to do with lack of trophies. After all, what has Cesc has won since Vieira left?
Well said avenell.
avenell
to be honest i dont think he can sort out this crises he doesnt have a number 2 who speaks up. he has too many yes men around him!
and if cesc himself isnt unsettled by performances like today, I would be surprised.
what i could not get today is why two defensive midfielder in song and denilson,,,,,, arsen is losing the plot and he needs get a reality check…..
Ras.. I’m with you on that point… We all know were not as good as we were 4 years ago, you don’t have to be a rocket scientist.
Vieira was better than Denilson.. ner, ner, ner, ner, ner don’t help..
ikon – whatever makes you think I want to stick with this team? At best I’d keep 5 or 6 players. I’ve been calling for new signings since the beginning of the summer.
As Paulinho says :0 – you can’t find another player like Hleb and he’s gone…. So we need to go out and find the best players we can afford.
bini, today was Wengers reality check. Now we will see if he can respond but we must give him the opportunity.
we didnt win with hleb last season and he would not have made much difference…. now there wouldn’t be a player to link with him because Big Dane is uselesss…
logic defying..as always
denilson – cesc play together, so denilson acts as a defensive mid.
Then fab out, song comes in, denilson makeshifts to attack, and song makeshifts to what he does(i have no idea he makeshifts from where!)
Nasri makeshift right winger, diaby makeshift left winger, Bendtner will be makeshift even on the bench.
Its crazy!
whos Moderating? Geoff/Pedro
i got a Friend who i have brang over to the Le-Grove Side lol. i think his in moderation
london… how many oppurtunity… a good manager he should have read the game in half time and make the right change… he had jack on the bench who has a very good ball retention and he didnt get a look… diaby was the most decent player and he got taken off….. the two worst players on the field get oppurtinity to play…. probably he can not what we see from our small screen….
i bet many of u reckoned we wld have gotten sumtin at city thinkin that the team wld want to prove to gallas that he is the problem.
IMHO, the 2 most important personnel not replaced – DD and PV, its all gone down hill since then.
clichy needs to be rested and he has too many games and he is lacking a bit of confidence… but as the main problem is that we have not a cover for him… the only cover is loaned out
I cannot believe ppl are saying we didnt win last season because of Hleb!!!!
We didnt win last season, because of eduardo’s injury, because of Ade’s offsides, because of Ade’s nonsense with Bendtner.
We came within a whisker because of the fab-flam-hleb trio.
I think those were great days, wenger had a chance to build on it, just fucking lost the plot like he did today.
And saying Hleb cannot be replaced is no excuse. Play Nasri in his usual position, Diaby in his usual position and we will see differences instantly.
The 3 reasons we lost today.
1 … 6 of our first choice players were out..
2….. International duty, after a bad week.
3…. Gallas is a c*nt
This is not the the best week to judge Wenger..
Rob the goon… welcome to Le Grove, sorry for the hold up with your comments!
Today just proved that our problems are actually bigger than we all thought they were. How could City, Villa have defended batter and attacked better than us in those two games.
bini, I am not talking about today,I am talking about the future of our club. His project has failed. Do we go down the spuds route and chane our manager or do we give him the opportunity to rebuild and put it right. Finding a better manager is not as easy as some people think on this site.
We won f*ck all last season because as well as we played we relied on one man to score goals and when he was out of form we were fucked. four straight draws from the birmingham game
ave – I am with you, I dont want Arsene out, I want him to be given money to spend. He has not been afraid to spend in the past, and the board must stop mucking around and give him finances.
I dont want us to be a team who changes the manager every time we hit a bad spot – we got used to winning and rightly so, and we all got used to watching great footie, and rightly so. It will come back, but we are in the gutter right now, and sometimes you have to go there in order to get up again.
But many other clubs in this league have been given bucket loads of money, and still havent achieved a top four spot each season.
Dont get me wrong, top four doesnt please me, I want our club to be winning 2/3 bits of silverware each year.
I want our ‘old club’ back, and soon.
Good point ikon – a balanced side must comprise players in their most effective positions. AW has played so many out of position this season, often when it is not necessary.
Keep going avenell
Oh – and I dont miss Hleb or Flamini – money driven players, our club needs players driven by Our Club
franchise, our problems were not bigger than we thought but they are bigger than Wenger thought.
I agree that this isn’t the week to judge Wenger.
I said all along I’d wait till the end of November, but i gotta tell ya, things don’t look good…
Cheers London.. I used to respect your views (and GMR’s) on that “cough” other site…
cheers pedro
Avenall,
9 1st team players were out – Fabregas, Adebayor, Toure, Sagna, Gallas, Walcott, Eduardo, Rosicky and Eboue.
Rob The Goon
welcome to Le-grove. the best Arsenal Site/Blog on the web,
Rasputin,
You have some very negative views about Arsene Wenger. Are you sure you are an Arsenal fan ?
Arséne, you gambled that one of Denilson, Song, Diaby, Bischoff or Ramsey dcould step up and play next to Cesc. The gamble made sense but it has failed. it is now time to act: rectify the situation please.
i would love to see wenger play a 4231 against the chavs just to see if it works
eboue jd silvestre clichy
toure ramsey
rvp cesc nasri/vela
ade
john. BECAUSE he is an arsenal fan, Rasputin has some negative views on Wenger.
I don’t know who the moderators of this blog are, but Rasputin seems to be a troll to me. Perhaps a Spurs or Chelsea fan winding people up.
oi oi raif
Most of our problems would be solved if
1.Arsene signs a a recognised Defensive Midfielder. Either of one our favourites on this site Cana or Alonso
2. We need to sign a winger Walcott is injured and even if he wasnt he has been mostly crap. Rosicky’s return is unknown even if he weere available he isnt a winger. LJW should be used with caution. Its too early to expect too much from him. The other options Eduardo and Vela are also not wingers. We need and deserve a tricky wing player. Overmars comes to mind. A jinker full of tricks always trying to stretch teams.
3. Now that Gallas has been made a scape goat the earlier we get rid of him the better. January Window. He is good enough to to use as a deal sweetener.
4. Move Bendtner down the pecking order
5. Start playing the good kids more Vela, LJW, Ramsey, Hoyte etc
6. Djourou deserves to play too. Give Gel a breather. Kieran Gibbs
Queen of Subrubia,
Sorry – I don’t understand your point. It doesn’t make sense.
Don’t be condersending John. Rasputin is a gonner through and through
John I said first choice not first team I didn’t count Gallas, Eduardo, or Eboue..
Rob the goon.. Hi mate nice start to your blogging on here!!! arguing with me..
Imagine if dippers had the equivilent out
Gerrard – Cesc
Torres – Ade
Carrigher – Bac
Riera – Thomas
Alonso – Theo (cough!)
Pennant – Eboue (tee hee )
Cant remember the defenders name – Toure
anyway, im sure you get my drift, they would be rubbish!!
We need to strenghten in all departments.
Defense – 2 defenders tall and fast, not afraid to head the ball.
Midfield: 2 DM, plus 2 wingers,
Attack: 2 or 1 (depending on if we sel Ade) out and out attackers.
Total 6 or 5 players and possibly one top class keeper
For Sale / Loan:
Song ( speed), Dennilson (presence) , Bendtner( clumsy), Gallas (Leadership and slow), Ade? (Control but only sell if we get value so we can replace),
Are you a troll as well Queen of Surbubia ?
Oi Oi Rob lol..
Get FootMan 09. its alright. its better managing arsenal on there then watching the Real thing. its not as stressful lol
anyone else here think clichy could do the flamini job, he got the stamina, can tackle and run the ball well
ave – eboue
If Rasputin is a gooner, why does he have negative views about Arsene Wenger ?
john are you saying we should not critisise wenger because rasputin seems prettygenuine to me
* Gael
rico u made me laugh then.. comparing ade to torres lol
John i should have recognised that you wouldn’t get a subtle point. Sorry, i’ll spell it out for you.
Rasputin is an Arsenal fan. That means if he thinks Wenger is doing a poor job currently then he will critisise him.
Wenger is not Arsenal.
A more pertinent question John is: Are you an Arsenal fan or are you a Wenger fan?
John
Wenger has taken the team backwards i feel he doesnt have a strong enough No. 2 around him and too many yes men!
London – I agree with you, I think that Arsene really does have faith in this group of players – but surely 5 losses, 2 on the trot must open his eyes to some of the failings.
Did anyone have an answer to whether loan signings can happen at any time?
rico, its not working
avenell you sound like Wenger with the 50 million excuses. My patience has worn thin with his constant excuses. The man in the street knew we were well short of decent players for the last few years, what does Wenger do during the summer, he fucks off to the european championships to make more money from tv then he fucks off on holidays. The smug cunt couldnt be bothered to strenghten our team cause he thinks hes god. Well at last hes being found out and I for one am delighted to see this lying cunt squirm.
i think its only in emergencies peaches, but then against i can recall us loaning players to championship sides a few seasons back
And John, rudeness and name calling is not tolerated here.
Wenger comments following the game:
“We have no big issues – just the fact we didn’t win the game. We have a good attitude, a good spirit. We’ll turn it around.
“It’s a flattering result for Manchester City. The attitude was right because we fought very hard.
“We lacked a bit of maturity to dominate the game. I don’t think Man City created a lot. I think we were quite in control of the game.
He has completely lost his marbles.
I couldn’t care less about any of his f******* overpaid juvenile twats that he panders to as if they were made of crystal, which I suppose in many ways they are.
How people keep blaming Gallas, and no-one (in the media that is) is saying anything about the pathetic displays by this bunch of PlayStation generation losers!!!
Talent? Perhaps, but who cares if you can only be bothered to string together two or three coherent performances every now and then.
Someone should come in and stop “protecting” the Wenger kids and give us back OUR team. Wenger out! And take you kids with you.
Until this is resolved, I am out. Call me a non-fan or similar, but the Arsenal is now an experiment/investment/circus and no longer a team. And it’s certainly not the team of the fans.
Until the lies seize and we actually get a team again, I am supporting whichever team Gallas joins. Arsenal has just f****** me, and I for one won’t take it. The loyalty has been breached. I would have supported the Arsenal unconditinally battling relegation in the third division if they had just treated the fans with even modest respect. Sorry for the tone but the all of the below must go and get f******:
Wenger
The Board
Song
Eboue
Bendtner
Come to think of it…
Keep Gallas and rebuild around him. Perhaps than we would not be dominated by the random combination of plummers that we meet each weekend who seem to actually care about the result and not their hair or whatever it is that is occupying the minds of the spoiled brats that currently occuppy the SHIRT.
This is a complete relief, I officially don’t care about this particular team/coach/board/sponsors/stewards etc.
I will always love the Arsenal.
hopefully, I will have it back one day.
Keep the faith.
Gus.
Peaches, I am calling for change, I just want to Arséne to over see it.
John – give me a break! – don’t you get the gist of this site…..It’s OK to question Wenger because blindly trusting that ‘he know’s best’ is not an intelligent strategy.
The argument that says “look at trophies and titles he has won us over his fisrst 6 years can equally be countered by “we haven’t won anything for the last 4 (make that 5) seasons. I don’t want AW to go, but I perceive a significant decline in his performance ranging from deliberately making false/misleading statements to the press: to persisting with players who under perform time and time again; to making poor and ill timed substitutions – often taking off his best player for someone inferior who is asked to play out of postiton. I may be wrong – I assume you are happy with the way he has managed our club lately?
Rob … I have also never understood why these blogs kept telling me that Bendtner is good and just give him time. He has never been anything other than useless. As long as we play such players we deserve to lose these games. The only hope is that come January when we have reached the dizzy heights of mid-table then Wenger will at last get rid of this rubbish and buy quality … though by then quality won’t want to come to Arsenal.
well said gus…
dont agree with building the team around gallas tho!
Q o S – thanks for your support…christ I’m hurting tonight, possibly worse than the spuds game and I’m sure you are too. It’s my only solace to come on here and have a moan
Paulie… You sound like a bloke who changes his car every 6 months coz you don’t like the colour!!!
Arsenal is for life not just for Christmas..
Gus.J
What do you expect him to say in a post match interview? He has to appear outwardly confident but it is now time for him to act.
i dont think we need to sell or buy too much. Denilson barely got a game last season now he is a key member of the side. that wouldnt happen at Utd, Pool, Chelsea. A lot of these young players are good but we are asking too much of them at a young age. Cesc was fast tracked and it paid off it doesnt neccesarily mean that it would happen with Denilson. These players need ppl to look up to. Cesc was priviledged to train with the likes of Paddy, Gilberto, Edu etc. Denilson doesnt have that luxury. |He trains with the likes of Song
If wenger goes out NOW, two things will happen,
1. We still wont be winning anything
2. We will be whored to the uzbek cunt, all the board memebers will be replaced, and will be milked out every year.
If we sell, Bendtner, Song, and Denilson, and buy some really good players and still play Eboue at the right wing and Nasri at the left, we still wouldnt win anything.
I think the most logical and stright forward thing to do would be to keep it simple really.
Play Diaby behind the striker (Ade is the best choice hate it or love it), play Fabregas – Nasri or Fabregas – Ramsey.
Buy a proper road runner for the right wing, and a Center back for Dourou’s backup.
salary cuts for every goal let in, and rise for every scored.
seriously!
wat say rico
Queen of Surbibia,
I see, well, Rasputin is entitled to his views.
I am a Wenger and Arsenal fan.
As an Arsenal fan, my expectation level is to compete is the UEFA cup, or CL when we win a couple of league titles, but get knocked out of the 1st round, and win the occasional league cup or FA cup.
As a Wenger fan, my expectation level is to compete in the CL every year, get to the final, win the occasional double and win the premiership once every 3 years.
Get my subtle point Queen of Surbibia.
Arsenal is for life not just for Christmas. Lol, top drawer
mwt – i thought that may tickle some
Rasputin,
With the greatest respect to you, it’s easy to criticise.
I’m not saying you are not entitled to your views. Unfortunately they won’t be balanced by anybody on this site will they ?
You are not subtle John and it is insulting to imply that QoS is not bright enough to get your point. She is a respected member of this blog site and her views are valued.
You haven’t answered my question so I will repeat it – are you happy with the way Wenger’s managed our club in the last year?
john here is my subtle point..
my brother is in the top institue studying management… he hoped last year to get into a high paying job at lehman brothers, but since the firm got bankrupt he has had to bring down his expectations, it isnt so subtle if you think a bit.
Hey John – Keep it friendly, respect everyones views, and dont insult some who’s views differ with yours please. Le Grove is run like a family home, QoS is entitled to her view, as is everyone, just dont make it personal, or the Grove Sgts will be on and hoof you off
Blimey – I slip away for 15 minutes while everyone is arguing nicely and come back to find someone questioning if Rasp in a gooner and calling people ‘trolls’.
John,
If he’s entitled to his views…then don’t complain and call him a non-Arsenal fan when they don’t coincide with yours.
As for the rest of your point. Take a look around at the last 3 years and tell me if we are closer to scenario A or scenario B.
You’re an AKB. And I pity you.
And its spelt “Suburbia” by the way.
all you need on a day like today is someone like John coming on…. tremendous
If we had won 3-0 today he might have had a point…
to see the team like this tears me to shreds, especially after hearing over the years us being linked to the likes of ribery, torres, alonso, villa, lucio, mertesecker, van der vaart, and many others..whether true or not…
The fact is John, good managers adapt to the game, like fergie (hate to admit), he has changed the way man u play every few years… they pretty much play 3 up front now compared to cole and york or rvn.
Wenger in comparison has tried to make the game adapt to him (mostly in last 4 years) He’s persisted in this one style and it just hasnt paid off. I dont want him sacked but if ti were any other club he woulda been gone by now… its reminds me of pool and houlier (sorry about spelling)
ikon – personally, i would hate to see Wenger go, I would rather see him be given funds, and pick us up again – he is one of the best managers in football imho, and he will get us back where we are used to being, right now though its pretty tough for all of us
peachesgooner
im sure its just people Venting out after the shity result and the shity few weeks
LOL.. I see. You guys want to ram your views down people’s throats and then when they are reasonably questioned you threaten them with eviction.
Please evict me then. The moment I am evicted is the moment that you have lost the argument.
Arise, Sur Bibia!
Oh I see John – you think it is your duty to balance my comments??? Presumably you go to other sites and witness the overwhelming (not quite so strong of late
) support for people with views similar to you own.
This site stands alone in its objectivity and we don’t need you to moderate us. If you’d have been on here for a couple of months you would understand where the regular contributors are coming from and that we respect those with different views as long as they don’t proffer the ‘Arsene Know Best’ line because that’s just blind faith and we prefer to live in the real world.
I thought Rumplesiltskin was a troll not Rasputin!
Seriously though, people should be able to give an opinion without being insulted.
Fabianski has shown enough to say that if Alumnia isnt up to it that he is ready to step in. No need to buy a GK.
Silvestre, Djourou, Toure, If Gallas is gonna go get Senderos back from his unneccessary loan move. We dont need a CB
LB
Clichy and Traore or Gibbs do it for me
CM
Diaby, Cesc, Denilson, Song can fuck off. We are short there Xabi or Cana wld do. Ramsey good enough but too young
LM/RM
Nasri is currently our only wide man. he is in his 1st season and it was expected that he wld take a while to settle in
Walcott injured and when had patchy form
LJW good enough but too young
Rosicky long injury lay off. Return uncertain. form on return uncertain
We desperately need a wide player, it would make sense to sign sm1 that could play on both wings and still play behind the striker if needed.
Forwards
I wouldnt panic here. We have good forwards. The midfield arent creating chance for them.
We need 2 players ideally. 3 wouldnt be bad
john – you are bang out of order, if you feel none of us have balanced views, may i suggest you depart this blog for another who hangs on to your every word!
and john – READ THE LE GROVE RULES !!
RB
Sagna and Eboue do it for me
John – you wouldn’t be evicted for your views, you’d be evicted for your manners.
Fuck off Wrighty…
Seb – De Ja Vue ????
John you haven’t reasonably questioned anything, you accused a regular poster here of not being an Arsenal fan because he criticised the manager after an inpet performance resulting in a 3-0 defeat.
You haven’t given us one reason to show faith in Wenger other than refer to trophies he won over three years ago with a team that was a thousand times more committed and capable than the current one. Only a fool would argue that our team is better now than it was in 2004 or even 2006. Are you that fool John? I don’t think you are.
Give some reasoned arguments for your opinions based on the here and now, rather than simply questioning whether other people are proper fans or not.
Everyone is welcome on here whether you like the manager or not, like any particular player or not, but the watchword is respect, and you haven’t shown any.
same here rico, just that it needs him to do the things without complications and without the overhead assessment of things, which he is not used to.
Hopefully there will be a good turn in the near future.
yes john u read the plot perfectly.
cya guys
night rico
Seb – the fact is that even if we had won today it would not really have signalled anything significant – 3 points would have made us all feel better but the lack of depth in the squad would still have been there.
I don’t want Arsene to go – I want him to fix our team.
Hey Wrighty, I was thinking of changing my name to Friar Tuck, but people might think its a spoonerism!!!
*inept
i agree with almost everything u sed franchise.. almost.. I still think we need a tall commanding cb in the jaap stam mould or mertesecker.. Our ferdinand, terry, etc. We had tony adams, we had sol campbell..
I dont think we need a defensive mid. The onyl defensive mid we’ve ever had was gilberto… I dont classify veria or flamini as dm, flamster was a workhorse and just did the gatusso job with an excellent workrate where as viera just marshalled the midfield and took command… bullied even.
we just need a good no-nonsense cm that can go box to box, chip in with few goals and offer cesc support
we are REALLY missing an overmars type player.. our ronaldo i guess (it pains me to say that)
our forwards are fine… its hard to score when ur not being given the chances
I agree peaches, there are big holes in the team and it’s going to require money to fill them, there is no other way of putting it. Wilshere and Ramsey are quality but in all honesty we can’t put our hopes in 16 and 17 yr olds can we.
And for the record I think Wenger is a great man, I have always loved watching his interviews, he is intelligent determined and insightful, and he has impacted on English football in a big way, but sadly that will all count for nothing unless he gets the balance of his SQUAD right. It is going to be crunch time for Wenger and I hope he realises that. Results don’t lie.
So, can I just check – would nobody here swap Martin O’Neill for Arsene Wenger at the moment?
O’Neill’s planning to make big additions to the Villa squad in January, whereas Wenger thinks we should have beaten a team that just outplayed us to a 3-0 defeat.
If only because he’s actually in touch with reality, I’d take O’Neill in a heartbeat now.
Seb,
You make some good points, thanks for your comments.
Ok. So you are all hard core gooners in here. Apologies.
What is the expectation level then ?
Seriously boys, do you really believe we should win the PL and CL given the £584 million Chelsea have spent since Abramovich rolled into town, the £350 million (I’m guessing here), and £250 million Liverpool have spent ?
Please tell me what we should expect.
Wheres Michael P?
I think a middle of the night meeting is called for after this game!!!!
Arsenal’s once ambitious season was molded into shambles after Manchester City expertly capped a chaotic week for the Gunners on Saturday. Arsenal have been awkward, but even with their standards, a dampening 3-0 bow in Manchester was out of the blue – in embarrassment. The wildest of humiliations keep emerging from ugly to horrific.
Even an infinity thrashing of Manchester City today would fail to erase a cluttering week, and as expected, Arsene Wenger deprived Gallas a role due to the former skipper’s antics about his team. Manuel Almunia was handed the captain’s armband while Gallas’ exclusion was one of four changes. Gavin Hoyte enjoyed a rare first-team call-up, while Johan Djourou, Alex Song and Robin van Persie were all introduced.
Neither team could really boast an edge during the first half. Clumsy passes and giveaways were all over. Looks were of an ordinary stalemate. Both teams looked uninventive when they intended to attempt a breaking of the deadlock. But nature will not always be fair against failure to take the initiative – so it has been for Arsenal on several occasions.
Alex Song then had the visitor’s first grip. The Cameroonian stroke awfully wide when set-up by Nicklas Bendtner’s chest from eight yards out.
It was soon turn for the unexpected but not astonishing as Manchester City eventually rode their fortune to change the game. Almost on the stroke of half-time, Clichy and Silvestre both clashed in an attempt to clear Benjani’s scrambling pass. And Ireland was there to pounce onto it and easily beat Almunia with a side chip.
Arsenal now had a second-half storming to do. And despite a few close tries by Diaby and Van Persie, the home side hindered those comeback plans by doubling their advantage on 58 minutes. This time, Robinho owned the damage with a slick chip over Almunia after Wright Philips’ penetrating pass saw Arsenal shamefully stranded at the back.
From then on, the Gunners looked very futile with every single touch. Bendtner should have forged some hope had he shot fiercer against Joe Hart after being perfectly cleared through by Aaron Ramsey who had replaced a naive Gavin Hoyte. Mark Hughes’s men looked to have finally put Arsenal’s crushing day to end when Robinho tapped home after Almunia failed a simple catch.
But somehow, it was ruled offside, and somehow, the Brazilian ace spared Arsenal more disgrace when he later rounded off Almunia after another break and shot goal-bound, but Djourou raced to clear off the line.
Even so, Arsenal’s Swiss defender would be guilty of that likely concession of a bemusing third goal by the home side. He was adjudged to have fouled Sturridge in the penalty area during injury time.
And from the spot, the English youngster stepped up to ruthlessly ignite Arsenal’s misery.
http://arsenalspot.webs.com
John,
I expect us to at least try.
mwt it would be ideal to have everything but it doesnt neccessarily mean trophies. Barca’s GK is dodgy but they won the CL with him. Djourou is 6’4″ Senderos 6’3″ tall enough. Senderos has been an arsenal scapegoat in the past the same way that Gallas has been made one since the birmingham game. Since Campbell left he became our most commandind CB in the air. he made a few mistakes compared t other players we were to quick to write him off
Why are you telling me to fuck off Avenell??????
Sorry – the £350 million spent by Man U in the last few years.
So, John, do you then think that just because other clubs have lots of money, it’s a good idea for us not to spend any, and send out the most average, un-motivated team we’ve seen at Arsenal in the last decade and a half?
Rasputin,
How the hell did you type?
I’ve heard trolls have really massive fingers???
LOL
Night ikon
On atv last night they were saying “remember when we were 12 points behind and we won the league”. There are a lot of deluded people around. this must be the weakest team we’ve had for ages. I bet £100 with a bindipper we would finish above them. If I was paddy power I’d payout now
Seb – now you I listen to….. and I take your last comment as a reasonable balance to my own rather exhasperated posts on here today and will admit that you’ve made ne feel a bit disloyal to AW, but I care about the Arsenal first and the players and manager next.
Jimbo,
There were 9 1st team players missing from that team. Did you not notice ?
I would back Arsene until January cos I just believe that he would respond by signing the players we need
Wrighty – it’s not the only thing that’s massive – sing the words to the song Ra Ra…
If Real Madrid, Barca, Man U or Milan wanted a manager and both O’neill and Wenger were available who would they choose?
i agree no good looking back,especially to last season.The main problem is that the squad is smaller and less experienced and we have to face that.Wenger either had money or he didn’t,so it is up to him to get us out of the rut.the biggest problem are that certain players just dont get on with each other and others are being played in their wrong position.I would give almunia a rest and bedntner for a start,drop song and see what happens next.
Oh john read the rules please before you insult our pal rasputin.he plays a mean guitar :0
QoS – You ok out there ??
John – I would have settled for challenging for the league. Which was a reasonable expectation after last season when we should have won it.
I believe that Wenger needed to keep what he had and strengthen it with two new players to add competition. Instead, he allowed several key members of the side to leave and he didn’t replace them.
He overestimated the ability of Song and Diaby in particular and to a lesser extent Denilson to step up to the levels of Flamini, Hleb, Gilberto and Diarra.
Wenger has made his bed and he is lying in it…..he cannot change his ways, he persists with players like Song, Eboue etc whilst players like Ramsey, JD sit and watch the awful events of the last weeks. There is not another manager in the PL that would play either the players that he does or believe they are so talented he can play them out of position like he does.
Unless he wakes up and smells the coffee in relation to what ever honest arsenal fan can see and every other fan for that matter, we are going to slip away from the top four.
If nothing is done in January due to his stubborn nature then forget the CL next season.
Keane stuck up for Gallas today, saying that he would have no problem with it….and it is the Keane type player/attitude that is so blatantly missing from the arsenal side.
Until he stops making decisions like leaving players on when they are clearly performing badly beacuse they are his favourites…he does not have my support.
He can change this by admitting to himself he has got it wrong, start playing Ramsey, Vela and JD and not Song, Denilson etc and he will get my support back.
If he cannot admit he is wrong and sticks with these players….I am sorry he needs to go to another club and start again elsewhere, new less of life and one for arsenal
yeh barca had the quality elsewhere tho and i dunno if we do have it yet,,, and i use the word yet because i think its almost there..
Senderos did not put a foot wrong especially in cl… he just made a few high profile mistakes against drogba mainly
back onto wingers, wasnt rvp originally a winger at feyenoord? and doesnt he still play there for the dutch team?
It annoys me how wenger changes players around so much
avenell they would chose pat rice because he never says anything
I’m fine thanks Rico, far more pissed off about the result than about anything John could call me!
Yes, I noticed John.
And I also noticed, that even prior to today, with most of our squad, we’ve been pretty fucking average.
Have you not noticed that?
Ha ha Rasputin!!!!!
Wrighty your last comment before mine.. Sorry if your sensative..
9 first team players John?
Almunia, Clichy, RvP, Nasri, Denilson, Silvestre (Pretty much the chosen one) all played.
They’ve played all year… so we can’t be missing 9 of the first team can we?
I will back him aswell if he signs players in jan,but it all seems a waste of a whole year as it should have been done sooner than later.
Queen of Surbibia,
Are these your views, or are they fact ? People have quickly accused me very quickly of coming on this site and disrespecting people, but you seem to be disrespecting me, by first of all not asking me for my opinion and assuming that you know what it is, and then secondly, presenting your views as fact, whereas they are in fact, open to debate.
There appears to be a strange set of double standards on this site.
Guys – I am off for the night – lets all respect what Geoff and Pedro have done for us with Le Grove
Without it, we would all be very horrible to our loved ones
Night all, and roll on Tuesday…
I suggest – Dont watch MOTD or Football Firts, in fact just tune into Strictly Come Dancing, and then I’m a Celebrity, and then laugh……
fair enough john
The money thing is an issue, certainly. But we have barely spent anything (net) for a few years now (have a look here if you want http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=piruthZqw9z7KPOQuZ0P6Gg ) – in fact we have actually MADE around £14m on transfers since the Invincibles season. The board say we are making a profit every season at the Grove. There are funds available. How much would it take to make us genuinely competitive and bring in players that would inspire and motivate the youngsters around them? £30m? £40m? £50m? We could do that with ease.
It’s not about the money, it’s about the policy, and the current one isn’t working. We are on course for our worst finish under Wenger ever given the results we are producing. Something has to change – and the point is we can afford to change it as well. Unless the board have been lying.
enjoy strictly rico! Tom to win
Pedro,
Yes.
Walcott
Fabregas
Sagna
Toure
Eduardo
Rosicky
Gallas
Eboue
Adebayor
These are all recognised 1st team players are they not ?
Would you rather slag off the team, or would you rather have some perspective on why we lose 3-0 ?
Kelsey .. Wengers real no 2 is Boro Primorac… Ricey is just a front imo..
John,
the excuse of having so many first team players doesnt fly.
How many of those 9 can we really consider quality first team players in comparison to the first teams from 1998, 2004 etc.
We still had quite a strong team out today and lost, so the better question is that how many arsenal players deserve to be in an arsenal first team?
Villa is proving that their victory over us is no fluke. They are really holding up to manU and they might snatch the three points.
For those scared of sacking AW: Nobody is beyond sack, well except Arsene and this board. Ask Tott how they got back on their feet. Things need to change at AFC and there are plenty of replacements that can do better than Arsene Wenger.
Man Ure Villa still 0-0
i wonder what odds you would have got that not one top 5 team would score a goal today
Avenell,
Don’t be silly mate I’m only joking with ya! I’m fine mate!
How have the Totts made it up to second from bottom?
John
Rosicky and dudu were always going to be out so you shouldn’t count them as the should have had cover, Eboue should never really be considered a 1st teamer.
John,
Don’t be daft. You list assumes that you’re leaving Van Persie, at least two of Walcott, Nasri and Rosicky on the bench (because I’m guessing you’re playing Eboue at RM), and that Toure has looked remotely like a Premiership quality CB for the last year and a half.
It’s just nonsensical spin, not too different from the tripe that Wenger’s been feeding us for the last few years.
It’s time for him to go.
Avenell,
I thought we was having some banter after all the name calling earlier!
Hey Rasp – how cold is it up on the hertfordshire hillside?
John, I know you think you are the first to come on here and go against the grain… but you are not. We all have differing opinions and your condescending tone is quite irritating.
If you want to wind people up, go somewhere else… or set up your own blog. You can have as much perspective as you like there.
We like to talk football here… not wind people up like children.
On the first team:
Walcott – yes
Fabregas – yes
Sagna – yes
Toure – no
Eduardo – no
Rosicky – no
Gallas – yes
Eboue – no
Adebayor – yes
I thought rice was a reincarnation of someone who departed about 20 years ago
Villa are rubbish. The reason they are holding the mancs is because they are rubbish as well.
Wrighty .. I thought I knew ya ..
Walcott-no
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3YkKWm33b8
That should make us all feel better…
Why dont we ever attack like that now, its as if we try and beat the team into submission with possession
Everyone, remember the rules please.
QOS Brilliant
John I dont think it is your opinion, I dont know what others think but the tone and content of your posts seem a little bit out of order. I guess that is down to the fact that we have not had you on here much so we dont virtually know you. For instance If i did not know Ethan I would probably get easily offended by his posts.
I just hope you mean no disrespect by your posts.
Avenell,
You know me matey!
steady QoS! I know a woman’s wrath and all that, but still…
*runs for the door*
Rasp – I didn’t mean to make anyone feel guilty about Wenger, why should they, he has somehow allowed things to start slipping away from him and something needs to change in order to stop the rot. I don’t know if a new CEO would help, or if the board can lay down the law a bit, but I can’t imagine he’s all washed up yet as a manager. It’s down to whether he reacts offensively or defensively to this terrible run of form.
Ironic isn’t it, Wenger is all about offensive play on the pitch, but off the pitch he is totally defensive. He needs to attack the problem by spending some bloody money, rather than backing players who are clearly out of their depth right now!
Pedro,
I thought rules were made to be broken!
You are such a bad ass Wrighty!
Yes Pedro, we know…the rules are there are no rules!
Everyone fuck off!
Just kidding. Jean Pierre. Parroting Wenger was en vogue a few years ago. Now it just looks a bit sad and devoid of thought.
The more we go towards Wenger’s true vision, the worse we get. That should set alarm bells ringing.
Seb… Wenger has a say on the CEO… how will that help?
Picking your own boss!
Shall we take a vote
Who thinks wenger can turn it around and who thinks he’s blown it.
I think it’s over for this year but I wouldn’t sack him until the summer as I’d give him the chance to prove me wrong.
mwt that almost made me cry
Eboue’s cross as well! get in there
we can’t be THAT far away from playing like that again, we just need the right blend of people to make things tick again…
I’d love to pick my own boss, I’d pick Wenger because no matter how bad I performed he would never criticise me!
I think he can turn it around. But he needs quickly to realise what we can all see.
Hi guys. Horrible performance. But I’m not pissed. If the team and Wenger aren’t interested why should we? I see Arsenal matches with no hope.
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GUYS DID YOU SEE THE GOONER FORUMS PETITION TO SACK WENGER. WHAT DO THINK ABOUT IT GUYS?
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ON another note today is the first time I am supporting MAN URE to win so that ASTON VILLA don’t take the 4th spot of us?
Saying that the reason we lost 3-0 was because we had 9 players missing is a bit desperate as well…
Spurdozer… a load of old bollocks mate.
whenever i feel down seb i watch that lol
and that could quite possibly be eboue’s only assist…ever lol
i think he crosses better than sanga tho
I hope so QOS I’ve gone from being a more or less akb when I arrived on this site to whatever the opposite is called (almost).
Wrighty post that spud site again let’s take it out on them….
I know Pedro, that is a bit weird isn’t it, it shows how utterly inept the board are about football matters. Dein was the only one with any idea about the game.
I read a good article today from a while ago about the event at Highbury when they dug up the squares of turf from the pitch (sounded like a great day as well) before we moved to the grove. The guy was saying how Keith Edelman gave a speech about Arsenal and Highbury, and kept getting loads of things wrong and stumbling for words, even though he had notes. And there I was thinking he was the nearest thing we had to make up for the loss of Dein at the time. We need some football nous on the board again, even if it’s just someone who can say to the boss ‘enough’s enough, buy quality or leave’
As my guvnor Wenger would explain to a customer,
“Yes, Wrighty7 broke your window but he has a good attitude and I have faith in him.
Of course he can still fix it despite it being broken in 4 million places. Wrighty7 produced a superb piece of workmanship today but was too cautious in his fitting.”
Avenell, it would be my pleasure mate!
http://www.whitehartpain.com/
Just arrived back in my hotel.
TODAY,I’M ABSOLUTELY LOST.
ENOUGH IS A ENOUGH.
TUESDAY< WE NEED BANNERS IN THE GROUND & A GROUP OUTSIDE THE DIRECTORS ENTRANCE MAKING OURSELVES HEARD.
WE NEED ANSWERS FROM THE BOARD.
I feel the majority of REAL fans, fortunate enough to get into the stadium & away games are treated l;ike fucking extras in a performance. Making sure their ‘theatre’ is full, raking in fortunes per game ( supposedly the highest receipts in world football) preparing to line their pockets whilst the club is now collapsing in decline.
london u quite right… but unless he changes his policy and start buying and mainly stregthen the team to retain fourth spot + to win some sort of silverware….
let us be optimistic and hope something good will come out of this mess……
l
Here is Arsene Wenger’s very bad tempered post match response
Q : On the defeat?
Arsene : “We lacked maturity… It was a flattering victory for Man City… we played into their hands. We have to try to win the next game and the one after that”
Q : On the Gallas situation?
Arsene : “ I will not speak about Gallas”
Angrily … “Why should I speak about a player who was not here!”
Q : On the positives?
Arsene : “We try to win the next game, we have to believe”
Q : On his responsibility for the poor performance
Arsene : “we are not in a blaming culture at our club, we live up to our responsibilities”
Q : Has you ever had a worse week in football?
Arsene : “No!”
i think you’re on for a record comments day Pedro?
we’re 5th now. Maybe that will ring some alarm bells
Anyone in rows M,N or P seat 320 – 338 ??
It was all getting fucking heated between wide eyed fans & AKB’s.
I had to be held back after some little fucking scroat starts fucking lecturing me that I’m a plastic fan.
When I lost it & blamed Wenger for what was happening out there & suggested that if he cant sort this then he should be out they went literally fucking mental !!
You should only fit laminated from now on Wrighty… Your too ham fisted..
We should look to get in Gareth Barry and Ashley Young. We look for Weather and Dune for defense. Aston Villa draw with ManU
Sorry guys, X Factor calls, catch up later xxxxx
confident… a. they get paid more than arsenal players
b. they wouldnt want to come to a team that is in a shamble
oppurtunity lost in alll front to close the gap…..
Any one here who wanted MAN URE to win. I was hoping for MAN U to win
CONFIDENT:
Dream on, why would Villa be morons & sell them to a club who will probably finish below them ?
Bini:
‘Close the gap’ !!
We need to spend millions to do that & get rid of at least 4 of those sub standards out there today.
I stayed til the end but helt ashamed & I’ve been watching for 40 years. Sorry if I’m sounding patronising but just wanted to state my anger to whats happening with our club.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/match_of_the_day/7743988.stm
jesus the boss has the look of a man on the edge in his interview…
I can see why he tries to play everything down, ‘flattering scoreline’, not a penalty, blah blah blah, if he comes out and says the team were not good enough but then has to play the same players next week, what good does it do them seeing that on MOTD later? It does get a bit wearing though – but I understand he has to look after the interests of the players before the fans. As far as the Gallas thing goes, I think it’s a bit poor that he couldn’t say a single thing about it. Even if he’d lied and said WG was ill it would be better than the defensive batting away of questions he does.
You just hope to god in the dressing room he tells them straight, unless he’s already realised they aren’t good enough and knows he has to keep them going until January… what a bloody mess
double… i feel the same way… but it doesnt hurt as before because i half expected for us to lose… but as faithfull ever i put money down for us to win….
wenegr he better spend this jan… otherwise we will see suporters turning their back at the team.. this is not what i wish…. but this must be done in order for him to realise people pay to watch a team that performes, and now they are not performing…..
Man City had lost 7games before today.poor old geoff he hates song and thinks ireland is ugly as shit with a pushed in face.
i think wenger will wear a dog collar for his next interview.
http://thegoonerforum.wordpress.com/2008/11/22/the-group-play-ends-here/
Would like some support for my arguments if you agree with me matey.
Vanster, great piece mate.
I thought Gooner Forum was running a sack Wenger petition?
looked like two mid table ordinary teams out there today.
Hill Wood probably still thinks everything is fine.
Pedro. The Gooner Forum Blog is a blog by the members of the Goonner Forum. It allows it’s members to write up their views and it will be posted on the blog.
It’s true we’ve got a lot of grouchy gits and Atilla, the bloke who started the petition is an extremist. For that matter he’s got an unnerving sense of accuracy. He predicted a 3-0 City win today.
So, I would like some support from someone a bit more high profile to get my view across. I’m sick of the way people are being split into groups and being told they’re not true fans
Seb – Austin
Rico.. have a look on the spud site wrighty posted… It’s funny.
Gr8 post vanster
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1088594/Its-time-Arsenal-Wenger-company.html?ITO=1490
What a cunt piers morgan is?
Piers morgan may be a cunt but he’s obviously an arsenal fan that’s hurting, Just like we are. I agree with most of the stuff he’s said.
Hey avenell what’s funny in that shite site Shite Fart Pain
I have no problems with what Piers Morgan has said. He is a cunt though but not for those views.
Piers Morgan is a complete and utter cunt, doesn’t really matter how amiable his thoughts are in general he’s a complete and utter cunt, I can’t quite stress that enough not just completely a cunt but a complete and utter cunt.
.. actually what he’s said makes him even more of a cunt..
I warm to P.Morgan, but credit to him on his views, he says what he feels & this from a man who has had some close contact with Wenger & the board.
Today’s squad is full of boys who would run back to mummy at the first sign of Roy Keane’s snarling shadow emerging into a tunnel.
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This one’s ma favourite line from Piers article.
Correction:
‘ I don’t’ warm to P.Morgan.
So it seems Gallas was right in his assessment of the tema – a load of overpaid, underachieving prima donnas who don’t give a flying fart how much they’ve dragged our club down by thier disinterested pso-called “performances”.
And Wenger – great masterstroke your summer transfer activity.
How’s that working out for you now, you super, super mug.
But it’s ok, they can take in their £30-£60k a week, climb into their £150k cars and kick back and relax.
Thaniks a lot you (rich) mugs.
If Arsene wants to include CEO as one of his remits, make him full time CEO & bring in Van Basten with DB10 as manager & asst !
Bit tongue in cheek, but maybe a reality in 12 months.
I was gutted earlier, I had to do something else and couldn’t watch the game, I was going to download it and watch it. And we lost 3-0, I am glad I did not watch, I would probably be going ballistic like the rest of you. I can’t believe we lost 3-0.
Why the hell did Song play?!
Arsenal are going to the dogs, five defeats now, no chance of winning the title, out of the top 4. It’s the end of November and we’re only ahead of Hull by a point,
by Arsenal standards this is a state of emergency, the plan was not to be happy mid-table. We have to focus on the cups, in summer we were all saying we only need one or 2 players on top of what we already had. We’ve had experienced players leave, we need major surgery.
We’re not gonna beat Chelsea next week so brace yourselves.
Spurdozer… Only your comment..
Bendtner is fuckin shittttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
no league this year
it was obvious we were going to lose.
Denilson was doing a charity today FINEST saying mr. pls take the ball I am fucking lost and don’t know what to do with this sphere thing. I can’t remember if he passed a ball to a guy in red and white. Although BENDTNER gave an assured performance. Assured in that sense that he assured we won’t score. Big balls a cunt. And he lost his first touch in his goirlfriend’s pussy the night before. As for RVP I don’t remember him was he part of the team? Almunia was sleeping tonight. Ramsey looked like a star and a lion when he came on. Ramsey for the armband.
Spurdozer – Where did you watch the game, the feed I had I couldn’t make out Ramsey at all, heh..
Gallas must have konwn how desperate the situation was and felt he had no option but to speak out about how shit we are.
Just looked at Wengers MOTD interview and he said, as per f**king usual “We lacked maturity”.
I can’t believe he said that. And he topped it off by saying, “we have great spirit”.
So loosing game after game engenders a great spirit does it ?
Yeah right.
It’s only the chavs next so that will get us back on track.
today my friends it has all come home to roost even those dimwitted mummy’s boy AKB’S
every one on this site in the summer was saying we needed at least three players , and international quality players over 25 ,
we have just witnessed possibly one of the worst weeks in our clubs history , In this managers reign this is his worst week no doubt ,
i just cant see us getting anything next week against the chavs,
Tuesday we mat sneak a win WE NEED SOMETHING POSITIVE,
FAB 4 SHOLUD BE MADE SKIPPER ON MONDAY .
NO MATTER WHERE WE FINISH AT THE END OF THE SEASON , the time has come for change the board and wengers youth plan has been blown out of the water ,
AND I SAID IT LAST YEAR GILBERTO SHOULD HAVE BEEN SKIPPER,
CESC COULD HAVE BEEN VICE CAPTAIN ,
BERTIE WOUD HAVE BEEN A CALMING INFLUENCE TO the young players ,
the way he was treated was a disgrace by wenger,THE SUMMERwas the time to act on making the squad stronger ,i’m tired of hearing about last minute failed transfer deals
wengers and the club’s way of not paying the asking price for players is a disgrace i’m tired of hearing about last minute failed transfer deals ,
I REPEAT WHERE HAS ALL OUR MONEY GONE?
ramy. You are still thinking about the league!!!!!! My MAN URE friends are taunting me by saying ‘WOULD YOU STAY IN THE LEAGUE?’. GOSH
chary
the “lacking maturity” is a fucking piss take as it’s his decision to have so many young players
whoever comes last in Fantasy grove should be ‘awarded’ this t shirt http://www.all3points.co.uk/cat/product_details.php?p=13
Keyser Do you remeber the pass Ramsey made just after coming on a through ball to Bendtner.
Treze
I aim to come last but I’d rather not have it thanks
How are you btw?
I’m good GM, you?
BRING BACK BOBBY 7
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=28S8kFG7hBM
We should ask the court of justice to persuade Chelsea for mercy on our piss poor children next week.
OK thanks. I expected to lose so not dissapointed.
Spurdozer – I couldn’t make out much, I had the worst link ever all it did was keep freezing just before City had an attack then it would unfreeze in time for them to be taking a shot at our goal.
I have re read gallas’s comment and i have to agree with him.maybe how unethical it was,it might just stir a few things up.the team looked totally inept today,and as i said earlier lost like little boys.city are no great shakes but as a performance it is clear that there is something drastically wrong within the club and players like denilson,song aand bedntner aren’t even championship class.clichy runs his heart out but is beginning to make mistakes in every game as i feel he needs to attack more than defend.diaby didn’t win a tackle that i can remember though the cameo ramsey appeared in,ouzes with class.can’t even thnk about the next match,wenger has very little time to restore things at least so we can see some passion in the team.
I think we might get a draw against chelsea… that or get absolutely destroyed one of those
Treze how are you. Back after so much time?
GoonerMichael – I thought he would never dare to use that absolute-bollox of an excuse again; it’s f**king shameless !
treze
I’m second from bottom!!!!
i meant clichy needs to defend more than attack
Keyser. I watched the match on TV
He was spinning it for the press. He looks as tired as I would be of defending that team. He has to, dissing them to the press doesn’t always reap benefits lol (Gallas anyone?)
Awful truely awful but surprising? No not surprised at all. We are leaking goals all over the place & now gallas has gone its gona get worse. We are never gona score many when we have Bentner upfront either, simply not good enough
Wenger have been proven wrong over & over again this season from his gamble yes GAMBLE. it was a gamble to go with my unproven players who some of which i do rate.
I dont want Wenger to leave in this state I want him to prove to everyone he has got what it takes still but he needs to not be stubborn & admit he was wrong this time.
Thanks Spurdozer, the scoreline backs up what you said, I am not going to watch the game to see what happened. We beat Manyoo and we got thrashed by Citeh, times are changing, everyone wants a piece of us and we can’t sort this out until January. Time for Wenger to watch some of the invincible videos and remember what he used to call football. It looks like the fall of the Wenger empire, the warning signs were everywhere, and now all we have left is to play the Carling Cup team, I have the feeling that I am not sure where our wins will come from.
There is absolutely no excuse in January, that we have faith in the team, theat we need to give the young lads experience……if Wenger does no business this transfer window, and I mean major business, he is just sticking his fingers in his ears and saying I’m not listening. If Wenger does not respond by strengthening the team, he is refusing to deal with the problem. I did not believe it would come to this.
i come back from time to time spurdozer… back at school with shit loads of coursework to do so can’t get on here as often as i would like
lol GM im not doing to great either 248 or something like that
I’ve got a guy who comes on my blog and he went to the game today.
He is furious because at a Man City corner Vela and Denilson were having a chat and then Denilson looked at the score board, which read 2-0, shrugged his shoulders and laughed.
Fucking disgrace!
Wrighty vela probably said: ” why did the old guy put me on now what can i do with the time left!?!?!”
Denilson checked the time and simply replied “Arsene knows i guess” *shrugs shoulders*
Treze
Geoff is on the last page as well. At least I intended to come last. lol
I’m shit and I know I am
I’m shit and I know I am etc
Denilson is a disgrace to this club. Wrighty. As for Vela I haven’t seen him not smiling he’s a nice cute little lad
HAHAHA treze nice one.
:D
Vela, Ramsey, Dudu, cesc, jack we have some great players or in the making but they need people to look up to. Gallas was obviously bad choice for captain and we should have outed ade.
Could be right there Treze!
Spurdozer, Vela is gonna be one of the best in the world. Shame it’ll probably be in a Madrid shirt!
Wrighty7
at least vela can pay off some of our mortgage (are we on a tracker?)
Hey Wrighty I bet we’ll replace Vela with the next zidaneor by that time the next Henry.
folks, I get mad because we did not have to loose this match. If AW had fielded:
Alumina
Hoyte JD Sylvestre Clichy
Wilshire Ramsey Toure Nasri
Jay RVP
Subs: Song, Fabianski, Vela, Diaby, bendner
Whats wrong with Toure playing DM? At least he cannot be as slow as Song!!! Why have bendt in this team? The guy has regressed.
WOW! If Denilson really did that…….
He should not be playing. They need to revamp that whole team. Shit, I’d rather Lansbury & Randall played there lmao…..
At least Lansbury plays with heart, he carries the England U19s by himself lol.
Confident – Toure was injured, even I wouldn’t blame Wenger for not picking an injured player.
Confident why are you so confident about your confidence in your confident line up? Gosh I am so confused. :S
Okay guys. I have to go. It was gr8 pleasure talking to you guys after seeing red and white shite. See you tomorrow. CIAO
UP DA GUNNERS
see you later spurdozer
I don’t know why he persists on playing Denilson (who isn’t that bad really) and Song all the time, when he can play Diaby in the center, or Ramsey. In fact, I’d rather see Lansbury or Randall play there, they’d have showed more bottle. That was the main problem for today, but also, the cracks are starting to show in our main forwards, and I think it may be time to move those forwards on. Ade & Van Persie are far too inconsistent. Bendtner at least has time on his side, but he cannot get away with playing even worse than these two like he has been.
Also, one of the biggest crimes so far is not blooding Jack Wilshere. I do not care that he is 16, he is good enough to play, and we know he wont always be able to be brilliant at his age, but at least he has the balls to match his incredible ability. He doesn’t need protecting, his name is not Theo lol. I think both he and Ramsey can play, as well as Carlos Vela and even a run out for Jay Simpson. Those kids showed way more heart and team spirit than our first team I’m afraid, and those kids should be rewarded.
Wenger is talkin about playing a young team, when the real young team should be playing. Wenger, you know what you have to do, play those kids, they will at least play for the shirt.
Denilson is worthless, Song is out of his league, and Bendtner is so atrocious that his play literally handicaps anything that the team trys to do out there …. after watching performances like this one it is hard to imagine this team actually winning a game (i know they will, but still), no less the title … i was screaming for Ramsay to come on at halftime, it was obvious the our center midi’s were completely ineffective to everyone but Wenger i guess, the game was begging for Ramsay, and if he was on from the off i guarantee we would have gone forward with more venom … his through ball to the shockingly bad Bendtner was pure class …
I dont care what anyone says, its crisis mode at the club … no more talking about winning the league, its blasphemous … a top 6 finish is looking like a stretch at this point ….
and i know we were without cesc ade sagna and kolo, but besides for ade and sagna, both others have been shite this season. seriously tho, the effort hasnt been there from cesc and hes been turning the ball over in the middle of the park all season …
bad times ahead
HOW WENGER NEVER PLAYED RAMSEY TODAY IS CRIMINAL..IM SERIOUSLY WORRIED ABOUT WHAT WENGER IS THINKING…THE BOY IS OBVIOUSLY GOOD ENOUGH SO WHY NOT PLAY HIM…MAKES NO SENSE TO ME…GUTTED
Hey, I wonder if Cesc flew over to Spain to check out his new locker at the Nou Camp ? He’s had a week or so off from playting for us so why not ?
very true, how could he not play ramsey today. Yet another bad decision
Wenger won’t let a 17 yr old play 2 full games in 4 days is the answer..
hes been at arsenal since the start of the season hasnt he…are u saying hes tired hes only played 2 or 3 games? come on..he had to play today hes class
Should Ramsey haved saved up those rest days and squeezed them in between thursday and saturday.
Paula Radcliffe is class, but she doesn’t run a marathon every day..
how many other arsenal players played in the week?????
Hey Jel, did you see the Wales v Denmark game in the week?
yes some of it..i was flicking between that & england game….whats ur point
Jel if you don’t understand the age factor and where Ramsey plays there is no point explaining.
joe …. denilson was worthless because he does not understand his position any more … i couldnt understand why song was stuck next to him…. and remeber the man-u game was our best player…..
2 games in a week is too much 4 a 17 year old now… like i said b4 the boy is good enough i really rate him & he should play
It’s not 2 games in a week. It’s 2 games in 4 days…
I’m not trying to patronise you, I’m telling you why Wenger didn’t start him.
Ramsey is going to be a giant in our midfield but as I am sure you noticed in the Wales game he was exhaused after an hour and the idea that he could have saved the game today is IMHO wishful thinking.
no offence but ur argument makes no sense…bendtner & van persie started didnt they?? he made hes debut 4 wales hes gotta be on a high 17 full of energy i cant think of a better time to play him.. i was so pissed off with wenger putting song in front of him
How does Mr Wenger come back from this. We know/he has stated, he won’t spend. We have too many injued players. In the real world you get 4-6 weeks sick leave with pay. At Arsenal you get 4-6 years sick leave with the equivalent of a salary per week.
You can get yourself all fired up about if he played Ramsay, or vela, etc, of Kolo as a DM, or JD20 @ CB, but he plays song & bendtner & denilson.
I’ve had enough of trying to fathom what is going on.
The Club is a shambles.
And so what if we beat Kiev this week. Wenger will say after, “i believe in these players”, & give song & denilson & bendtner more games in positions they are out of their depth.
london.. he was exhausted after an hour??? i think i must of being watching the england game then….if thats true thats a bit worrying…???
Bendtner started as we really have no choice, RVP is older.
They are both Strikers and not all action midfielders..
If Wales had of played Tuesday and we played tomorrow. I’m sure Wenger may of started Ramsey.
Don’t worry about the nobhead!
Song, Denilson & Bendtner
You put Yoko Ono in there & you have the 4 most irritating people born in the 20th Century.
Jel, he wasn’t just tired he was on his knees knackered.
Pele played for Brazil and won the world cup at 17. lets stop this talk about playing 2 games in a week. If he is the best material you’ve got, why not?
This isn’t exactly accurate but from what I have read on here any knowing the rough age group, I would say that most of the over thirties want Wenger to have time to put this right.
And the under thirties want Wenger out.. I may be wrong ….
Wenger’s gamble was that either Diaby, Rosicky, Denilson, Song or Bischoff would take on Flamini’s role: someone to play alongside Fabregas. It was not a bad gamble but it has failed and unless Rosicky is definitely going to return then the only solution is to spend real money on someone that has proven track record and can hit the ground running.
That was in1958.. All footballers used to smoke then and drink beer… The game may have moved on a bit!
And it’s not 2 games in a week.. 2 in 4 days…
gnarley george ive defended and supported arsenal all my life…but something aint right ..im beginning to think ur right & the club is in a shambles & it hurts mate…after all the business with gallas i fully expected us to win today u could always rely on arsenal to to do that bounce back etc…ive not seen the game yet but 3-0 to man city?? its not looking good
My guess is that Gallas is going to make a big public apology and will be playing on Tuesday.
No I am mid 30′s Avenell and I am in the Wenger out camp.
If I honestly thought for one minute he would do the right thing in Jan then I would give him the season, but he has got my hopes up one too many times in the transfer window when it was obvious to all we lacked class and numbers.
I love what Wenger has done for us, but I am in the mindset that we will struggle to win one of the big two (CL or PL) whilst he keeps this policy going.
Tuesday is massive now, if we lose that then our future in the CL is in serious doubt
This is the lowest point of AWs 12 years without a doubt, but I think asking for his head is a bit previous! On the other hand I would not like to see him going down the Cloughie route. He is a legend in Nottingham but the sight of his red cheeks when he took them down from the prem was a very sad sight for football fans. I would hate to see AW spoil all he has done for our club by losing ALL the fans now.
The other point is, who would you really suggest could do any better at the moment? I am not sure there are many who could to be honest and throwing money (and lets be honest 30 mill don’t buy you much nowadays) at the problem is no guarantee that we will be any better off.
chary,
Didn’t realise Toure was injured.
Spur,
AW has always known that Dennilson and Song don’t combine well in midfield. At least the young gunners have the skill and hunger. Why not use them in places they have shown promise. I know the team is lightweight, but people see poor selection regularly from AW and they start to wonder.
Key qusetions:
In view of past performance will you field Bendt?
Who was our creative player before Ramsey came?
we wont lose on tuesday……but im worried there was no reaction today.thats whats bothering me
i never ever want to see that league 1 player bendtner in an arsenal shirt ever again……he can fuck off and take his dodgy hair cut wid him
I actually feel real sorry for Ramsey, he picked this club thinking it had ambition and character, all its had sinced his arrival, is kids with big heads & big egos’ who get paid wayyyy to much cash for doing fuck all. As for the senile AW who is the only person who thinks ther ISNT a problem, is already playing down the loss. Stating on Arsenal.com that the team had good focus and we were unlucky to concede those goals etc etc. I watched that game with great disgust i mite add, and all i saw was a team who could string more than 2 passes together and didnt get a shot away until the 33min due to a free kick which the player with unbelieveable skill SONG! Kidding) fucking up the rebound. Yet why wont he buy in the jan transfer window? Becasue he would have to admit he is wrong and second guess the Youngsters. All people are wrong at some stage, its the greats who can admit it then try and fix it, they are the people who are set apart from the rest. So AW will never be one of those. Also i wont accept the whole we had 9 players out excuse, it not everyone elses fault that we dont have adequate depth in the squad. So what now? i say hurry up Jan transfer window, and if he doesnt reinforce this feeble squad, ill forsee us becoming more of the already laugh stock of the premier league.
May God be with us……………………….
Night Grovers, my match report posts at 0900 but I wont be about until 1400.
Enjoy, I’ll catch up with you tomorrow!
Rob,
Good point, but don’t take AW’s press conference too seriously. He is adept at making political statements for the press boys. They now look predictable. You surely don’t expect him to publicly slam his baby experiment, do ya?
We need news signings and fast.
My feeling is that the following players should not be part of the mainstream squad, and should only be sparingly used:
Bendtner, Denilson, Song, Almunia, Silvestre
Players that should go:
Gallas, Rosicky, Eboue
Players that should be signed:
Alonso, Buffon, Upson, Barry, Reo-Coker and Roque.
Wengers words actually really pissed me off today, I know he wants to try and defend his team but he has just made himself look an arse today and it is disrespectful to us and to Mark Hughes and Man City as they battered us. The media, fans and players are not stupid. I can only hope he gave them a rollicking behind closed doors (again) although more likely there was some more shit deflecting spin about understanding due to the Gallas situation.
To say we were unlucky to concede those goals. I am not sure what game he was watching from the dugout (Maybe he had the Hull game on a live feed) but the one i was watching told me we were lucky it was only 3.
No not at all Confidentgoner,because like i said that would be admiting your wrong, which i mite add people like Martin O’niell, Fergie and even the totally non-understandable Scolari can do. Im not asking for his head, its just he admits in a round about way that we lack “Maturity” to finish games off, make right choices etc. Yet last time i was looking up definitions that M word is very close to Experience?! so he contradicts himself then defends the youngins then says they lack the M word again? he should be in politics, putting twists on everything to make the vulgar crowd happy…..However we arnt happy, and we want accountability.. So that is admitting the Youth Policy is nothing short of blind and fruitless ambition.
hello grovers
im back and reflecting on todays game and past few games and weeks. i am actully laughing my arse off Bcos whats going on now is a comedy act over at the Emi-RATS.
i cant wait for the next tummy tickling antics
Hi Raif
I think laughter is the only way to deal with it,
And next up Chelsea….Oh Fuck…….
Its the persistence that really fucking annoys me, in that you just know that although it is not working he will try and bore us into submission. You just know Song will get another game next week…It is a fucking shambles,
I harp on about the Invincibles but we should have moved on from there, I know players were reaching retirement and the tail end of careers, but the whole transistion from where we were to where we are has been a complete failure. We should have replaced like for like each summer as those players moved on. I just wonder how much it will cost to put it right now.
patthegooner
i agree lol… as its going to be a barrel of laughs over at the Stamfo’dov Bridge’ski
when we play them.
Stamfo’dov Bridge’ski haha i really make my self laugh some times.
how sad am i
Gallas claims his breakdown after last season’s 2-2 draw at Birmingham was justified because the result opened the door for Manchester United to surge ahead in the title race.
He said: “A few months after that match, I had a talk with one of United’s players.
“He told me: ‘William, when you drew at Birmingham, our manager got up and said: Lads, the door is still open and we are going to be champions. We are going to come back at them.’
“That said a lot. It was exactly what I felt the day I blew my top on the pitch.”
Gallas was all the more disgusted because he had sensed Arsenal’s kids had started to take things easy in preceding games. He explains: “I had the feeling my young ones, confident in the power of our game, were getting less and less involved.
“They were so convinced of winning the title they were beginning to relax. I made efforts to explain they must never lower their guard.
“How could I transmit this determination to maintain direction to the end?”
Gallas accuses his team of failing to handle the shock of seeing striker Eduardo da Silva’s shattered ankle early in that fateful encounter.
He adds: “They were no doubt too young to withstand the pressure. They couldn’t get a grip on themselves. I felt they had trouble holding the road.
“For me, everything collapsed with that penalty. This was the beginning of the end. That failure said a lot about the state of mind of our troops. I ran across the pitch like a madman, kicked an advertising board and sat down crying in the centre of the pitch.
“Was it a good attitude for a player? No. Was it a good reaction for a captain? No. My attitude was stupid. In hindsight I should have had more restraint. I was carried away by my passion.
“I’d like someone to understand. Not for me to be forgiven, but to be understood.”
Nite all. See yáll tommorrow!
Raif/Pathe – we have to laugh, it’s the last option we have in the face of this carry on style farce.
The Chavs ? We’ll go one up , coast a bit, hang on till 60 minutes, start show boating and let in 3 late goals,
then Wenger can say “we lacked maturity to close down the game…blah, blah,.. we were unlucky to concede..blah, blah blah”
pat I know what you mean, there is a time for talking, and there is a time for saying nothing. Wenger needs to learn that when it’s all falling apart you either have to hold your hands up or say nothing. He has made a mistake in maintaining the same level of expectancy in the fans whilst not investing in the same quality of player. You can’t measure commitment on the training ground, you can only see that when you’re up against another team. That is where his faith is misplaced imo.
There is a reason why players are generally said to be at their peak at the age of around 27, it’s because they are physically and mentally mature and have usually amassed a decade’s experience in the game by then. Expecting a team consisting of 17yos or 19yos to be able to perform at a consistently high level was always a fools errand. I hope he realises that soon.
did anyone see the wenger Interview on BBC sports?
the part that really pissed me off was,
2:02 Sec – Wenger “WHY SHOULD WE MAKE STATMENTS”
basicly his saying Fuck the Fans
Piss off Wenger. what a way to disrespect ur Fans. shocking just shocking.
that means we wont be hearing nothing from arsenal about anything
watch it here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7727203.stm
These are the fixtures until he can do something about it
Chelsea A
Wigan H
Boro A
Liverpool H
Villa A
Portsmouth H
Wheras before I would look at that and think we are capable of winning all of those, I now fear that we are capable of losing all of them. We need to stop the rot and fast.
What also concerns me is that we will be hanging on till deadline day to see some action when really the work should be being done now and those players need to come in on Jan the 1st,
I am not usually a fan of bringing in players in Jan, but these are desperate times.
Paulinho,
That was from the heart. Gallas talks from the heart and I love that. His game also faltered this year. Beaten at headers and one and one. I hope he is honest about his own level? Goodnite!
I know Raif, I know that Arsenal dont have to tell us anything, but that was the kind of moment where his PR skills are sadly lacking.
He could have said, we are dealing with the matter internally and we will make an announcment in due course. I don’t think he realises the disharmony it causes amongst Gooners. i can remember who it was but someone posted earlier that Gooners were almost fighting amongst themselves today at the game……
patthegooner
yeah mate it was lacking big time. what he said in the interviews clearly sais things are not right at arsenal and he has a cheek to say we have good spirit?
reailty check mr wenger the spirit was left were it was at the Emi-RATS after the Man Utd Game.
as for the fighting gooners at the game, i dont blame them.
we’re all frustrated to hell and not getting any answers in the slightest from our club.
i really do feel the fans at the next game and for the rest needs to turn there backs in protest, we need to make our voices be heard, and let them know how we feel as this cant go on.
looks at the spanish and italian fans. we need to take note of that and do the same.
Raif may I suggest if you want to protest…
Get a group of guys(gals) go down to Underhill and proteast at a reserve game..
You will have 2 hours on Arsenal TV live to make yorselves heard and Arsene attends the games too and even if he doesn’t he watches the DVD.
Spelling was a bit out there sorry.. I’m only drinking water honest..
and come to think about it. i know in my heart that wont happen as more then half of the Eni-Rats is full of AKB’s.
it must be somthing along the lines to every 1 AKFA (Check Avatar) to 3 AKB’s
with signs saying “IN ARSENE WE TRUST”
the thought makes me sick
avenell
good point man. i would really like to and also call on the Le-Grove faithfull to join me. but to be honest i just dont have the time..
amen Wrighty7
Avnell, i cant afford to change my car every 6 months or i would. Also ive supported Arsenal over 30 years and not since christmas. Im over 38 and id also like to see Wenger gone. Hes had enough time in my opinion and you know full well he wont buy whats needed in january. This team makes me want to cry every time I see them. They are a disgrace and ultimately Wengers to blame. How long would you give him if things continue as they are, people have been making excuses for him for 4 years now, in all fairness without resorting to attacking my opinion, how long more are you willing to wait, this team is not now or never will be good enough.
raif
hahaha in arsene we trust
i wouldn’t trust him with my wife
or my x- wife
ethangunner
ahahahahahaha
i dont blame u mate. im sure he would try to convert her Tea making skills into somthing like seting up a new computer.
then hand her a List saying.
- “displaying a positive attitude in and out of the house”
- “you making the right decisions for the team”
- “having “an unshakable belief that we can achieve our target”
- “grounded and humble as a wife and a person”
- “when we play away from home, believe in our identity and play the games we love to play at home”
I help coach the soccer team at my school– The Head coach always says ” good teams dominate the teams they SHOULD dominate.”
We raped them with possesion but once again, there is no one who wants to pull the trigger and send it home.
i’d say my usual “dissapointing” or even my ocassional “utterly dissapointing”
but lads, I am down right pissed.
It is time for a massive clear out of personnel, whether we have transfer money or not, we MUST stay top 4, because with out the money from the champions league, we are bound for mediocracy.
he can have my x – wife she was a liar anyhow .
in fact she would fit in well with the current management !
hahaha
alex
We raped them with possession but once again, there is no one who wants to pull the trigger and send it home.
its been the same since th14 left .. in fact even the last year TH14 was still here he really wasnt HERE , at least not on the pitch anyhow .. we haven’t had a real quality striker since 2005 !
its about time we reclaim our title and hunt for the best of the best in the strike department ..
we used to own the best striker in the world !
and db10 who was one of the best play makers in the world !
that is what it will take to regain the glory days again ..
most people are happy with ade and RVP .. bend’s etc …
if you look at it from my perspective , its no wonder we are in the shit ..
goals win matches ! not excuses !
ethan its easy to criticise our strikers but its not entirely their fault…The midfield are just not creating anything. The only mid that gave decent ball was ramsey when he came on. I think he was the only one that could pass a ball that split the defense.
Th14 was so good because of the service he got from db10 pires and co.
Rosicky is the player we need badly, a player to provide the final ball.
It could be our way of playing is flawed with these players. Past teams (with th14 for example) were quick to attack thus not allowing the opposition to camp 10 men behind the ball. We need to stop all the passing back and sideways and look to go forward. Look at some of the goals holland had at euro2008: Quick, efficient and ruthless. They reminded me of the old arsenal attacking style. I can remember so many times at highbury when lehman or seaman would realese the ball then within 2 or 3 passes, TH14 or bobby finished it in the back of the net
ive had a gutful with this current team
I feel so disallusioned with The Club, not the fans, because the manager is so pig headed/stubborn.
Why does he continue to believe that song, denilson & nicky b are good. In a brave new world Ramsay would start not bloody song. When all was going pearshaped, he left the problems in mid field & shuffled others.
How many times did the mid field turn the ball over in the 2nd half in particular, but obviously Wenger reckons its not denilson & songs fault. And when he decided to bring on Vela, he puts him out wide & leaves little nicky
on.
I’m fucked if I know whats going on, apart from the fact that The Club is losing more & more, (I can see that) but people still love The Manager.
The AKBs obviously believe that the Wenger magic will save us. We are fucked unless we are saved from wenger.
If Wenger does not buy in January AKB’s your tenure/our tenure as a top 4 side is over.
Wenger must either buy, or go.
I’d bring in Roy Keane for fucks sake. I’m serious. he has done his apprenticeship as a manager. With money behind him he would add steel back into this Club.
Arsenal is a politically correct shadow of its former self. The Board, from all accounts, have no idea about putting a hard edged team on the field. All they appear to care about is the value of their respective shares, so who is going to save us. Roy could.
Crisis!!!!!! AKB’s you had better believe it
That bloody dreary tune “The wonder of you” is a bit out of date isn’t it. the wonder of how The Club has slid down as quickly as the Australian economy has under the labor party.
This is the tune they should play as the boys come out for a home game
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=DWezv1cqTAg
Its Movember here in Oz. a time when blokes grow moustaches to raise funds for prostate cancer. If you ever wondered what GG9 looks like during Movember, he looks a little like this
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5512/murphy1em7.jpg
Gnarley. I am a bit of a soul fan myself but even I would take Rose Tattoo over that dreary, drab, annoying Wonder of you.
London
Good to read you. I was starting to wonder if i was driving miss daisy,
I mean driving people crazy
NEW POST!
Just woke up and thought I’d watch match of the day again…… I just couldn’t believe it…
I’m going back to sleep……
Bring back boring boring Arsenal. My kingdom for a dour one nil victory.
Rich severely missing the noisy North Bank : (
Since we are in crisis, there is one man we used to turn to for the goals we needed to win games, someone that finished the great football off. I would love it if Henry came back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdo4ED0L0nI&feature=related
Bring back Henry in January!
Arsenal is not boring!