He really could, I have been quite depressed about Theo’s dislocation and how it could ruin his career, I mean this is what, the third time? and he’s only 19, it doesn’t bode well does it?
So you may ask, how does that help us win the league, miracle cure? Homoeopathy? Acupuncture? No, a Wengerism is what could happen.
I think we could put Jackie boy or Ramsey in there or even Nasri and switch the other two over, but I could ‘as well’ see Wenger using this as the excuse he needs to buy the midfield player we all know we need and he can now do it without losing face.
He won’t be pressured into a signing because he’s so ‘silly stubborn’ but with Theo out for so long he can say he had no choice and go and get Alonso or Cana or someone good.
Either that or he’ll put Bitchslap in there and save our money! I have a sneaky suspicion though this could be it, so without Theo knowing, he could be the reason we win the league, he may even shock us all and buy an out and out winger from somewhere. There is probably a centre half somewhere that he can convert.
He may even buy Veloso so that when Theo’s back we have the mobile centre back we also desperately need.
I’m hoping he now realises that the treasured top 4 spot is seriously under threat and will act fast to shore up the side, and with December only a week or so away it’s not a long time until we reach the January sales, so maybe we should start speculating, or at least draw up a short list of talent we’d like to see at the Grove, we know he reads this blog so maybe a suggestion or two would not be a bad thing.
Of course Eboue plays there and Song probably does but with the injury to Sagna and the injury to Eboue that area is hopefully covered.
Good to see an Arsenal old boy scoring for England last night, another one we let get away eh? I rarely watch England anymore but when I knew Beckham wasn’t going to get yet another wasted cap I found a bar to watch it in, I hope that Capello remembers the players that mysteriously got injured and sees if they play for their clubs this weekend, and if they do says, that’s your lot son, you won’t be playing for me again.
Gutless wimps.
Le Grove is now smart phone compatible!
Pedro
Geoff
1st?
WOO!!!! a first on my return to le grove
top 3
He shoots he scores
Nearly
Good going treze shame you’re too young to collect the first prize of a case of Peroni!
hi guys! sad day..!
well im sure you’ll find some use for it geoff
geoff… then it goes to 2nd place right?
signing suggestion number 1…marc van bommel. 31 and in the last year of his contract at munich. reported on ssn that thay may sell in january to avoid losing him on free transfer.
I will bring Ramsey to the left and Move samir to the right!
Tom it’s all yours mate!
Kenny, where did you read about De La Red, I can’t believe we missed out on someone that ill, I bet Wenger’s pissed off.
13th!!!
signing suggestions?well..
I’ve seen this cana guys playin a couple of times for Marseille and would go for him..but i hear he’ got a huge price tag..btw Geoff is he is soo good why isn’t he in the French squad above the likes of toullalanlalanlan and Dolphinhead?
Van Bommel is 31? And the rest.
RVP could play on the right in a 4 3 3 for Arsenal at home.
The injury to Theo could mean we change the way we play, however without him we lose pace, and the ability to counter attack as well.
Vela could be an option as a winger -come forward in a three With Ade in the middle and Nasri the other forward player.
Diaby, Ramsey and Fabregas in the middle and the team starts to look stronger, with a mix of players
Xeeez because he’s captain of Albania and that would piss them off!
Oh I see..Cana is Albanian?
xeez, Cana is from Albania, not France, he just plays there.
Paper talk about us buy a Belgian Midfielder.
signing suggestion: David Villa then Ade and RvP can both piss off
Coz he ain’t french Xeez……
I could see Vela on the left and Nasri on the right for home games. He might also stick RvP on the left, play diaby in a 451 formation
ok guys maybe I’m way off but what about Reo-Coker? he isn’t getting a game at Villa coz sidwell is in..Wenger was a fan of him once or so he said..he was good when at West ham..he runs his ass off and reminds me of Flamini!
RvP’s singing a new deal…….probably as we blog…………so no chance there treze…………
xeez… cana is albanian and plays for them
mark nice idea..
vela ade rvp up top will cause anyone problems with ramsey denilson and diaby in the middle
mark c..van bommel is 31.
“He may even buy Veloso so that when Theo’s back we have the mobile centre back we also desperately need.”
Or he could recall Senderos and Traore!
we need a player with Dirk kuyt’s work rate, but not dirk kuyt of course!
oh… well on a positive note he netted twice for holland last night (yay i guess)
Arsenal Tom will they be able to score?causing problems is not good enough
morning fellas,
anyone else read some shit on setanta about AW loaning vela out??
and the van buyten talk as well… CB, 30 ish, 6’5… plays for munich and loves a joke… check him with ribery on youtube chucking a bucket of water on oliver kahn
Double yay…….more of that against Citeh please…………..
Traore on the left wing, there’s a thought Finest!
morning all… good on you treze.. hows life
http://newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Premier+League/Arsenal
Van Buyten anyone?
Reo Coker?he reminds me of Flamini!
Bayern Munich defender Daniel van Buyten has admitted Arsenal are a ‘very attractive club’ amid rumours of interest from the Emirates Stadium outfit.
Reports in Thursday’s press link the Gunners with a move for the towering centre-back, who had a loan spell with Manchester City in 2004.
It is claimed Gunners boss Arsene Wenger is eager to strengthen his backline after watching his side concede 15 goals in their opening 13 Premier League matches.
Van Buyten, 30, has hinted an offer from the North London club would be a tempting proposition as he struggles for regular first-team football at the Allianz Arena this term.
The Belgian said in the Daily Star: “Arsenal are a very attractive club. That goes without saying.
“When we reach the mid-season break I will take stock of my situation at Bayern. There is still time for me to make a decision.
“At present I’m not getting to play as many games for Bayern as before. I am concentrating on trying to get back into the side.”
van buyten is great in the air but pat rice is more mobile.
xeeez… well if them 3 cant score then we really are fucked!!!
Morning all,is there no disclosure when we sign someone like a medical insurance form relating to hereditary illnesses or defects in the body.Theo has a hereditary defect in his ligaments around the shoulder area.now he has done both shoulders and this can reoccur,so everytime he plays every cunt will shoulder barge him.Rosicky Mark 2.Bischoff has had two groin operations,was an amateur so le boss says goody let’s sign him.Silvestre has had two years of injuries so fergie thinks goody wenger wants him,he’s worth zilch let’s get 750000.RVP plays about i season in 3 oh goody lets double his wages.Ade has one good season,thinks he is TH,so wenger pleads with the cunt to stay and trebles his wages,oh goody.and the beat goes on.
not too bad i suppose choy, would be much better if Arsenal were to sort themselves out , you?
Geoff top post….. “He may even buy Veloso so that when Theo’s back we have the mobile centre back we also desperately need.” luv it
lol.. carlos vela red carded!!! in the international match!
Van the man and Ade up front I’ll take it
well any new injury update choother than choy?
choy thats very good news!! he can miss the next 3 games and chill at home in north london instead of flying round the world!!
m fine.. .at least carlos vela misses what 3 more international games?
good he got a red card..i hope he gets a lifetime ban from international football..!
what is choother xeeez?
choy..I meant to say ‘any new injuries besides theo?’ my keyboard sucks…!
theo might not “win the league”.. but he just might save us from the blushes of going out of top 4.
Seriously I will be gutted if he plays song besides denilson against city.
Ramsey has to play and I think Vela would do well in the wings for the time being. I seriously think its time Vela plays some part. He is light i know but at the wings the probability of him getting mauled by defenders is halved.
The best lineup imho would be
Fabianski
Toure-Sylvest-Gallas-Clichy
Nasri-Denislon-Ramsey-Vela
Diaby
Ade
which can easily change to
……
Nasri – Denilson – Ramsey-Diaby
Ade-Vela
Traore and Veloso would be 2 great additions to this seasons team. Traore on left wing and Nasri on right wing.
Veloso would compliment our midfield and defence. We could do with one more option that we currently don’t have, an out and out defensive midfielder with pace, stamina , tackling ability of a defender and someone who can help out with headers in the box. I’m not really too sure if Veloso plays in that kind of way but we currently don’t have a single player like that whereas last season we had two, Gilberto and Flamini. Arguably the closest thing is Song, or even Eboue and since neither of them are better or equal to Flamini or Gilberto, we are short there, we do not have that option if we need it. Denilson is a good central midfilder, and Diaby’s wortate and all round game is great, but I would not class either of them as out and out defensive midfielders.
according to physioroom.com eboue is set to come in this week..
i don’t think we have any new injuries!
vela won’t even be in the squad on sat.. he returns to london tomorrow i think!
Play Diaby in Central midfield the sooner he gets used to it the better….. Diaby might be another future star we let away. He’s french though
probably would outlive theo in an arsenal shirt
well thats good coz we need eboue at RB..no more kolo at RB and Eboue at RW!
Good post as ever mate. I haven’t read the other comments but i’m not as optimistic as you however. I think he’ll use it as an excuse to bring back his long lost Afrison Eboue. Straight swap.
Ade RVP up front
Hi Steve, I hope not, that experiment didn’t work, but better than putting Song there I guess.
we have conceded 15 goals in 13 games… how shit is that!
So if we have no reserve games for a month, how will Eduardo make his come back?
10 goals at home 5 goals away! chelsea have just conceded 4 goals!
Please don’t take this the wrong way as its an enquiry not a dig – you “know that he reads this blog,” really ? How ?
I think it would be closed doors friendly geoff
what about a return in the carling cup geoff? I guess that would be too tough and risky though..
Jan buys are already panning out………..or are they?
Van Buyten/ Defour/ _________
Another 16 year old world beater anyone?
goodmorning people…i sense a new air of optismism amongst the gunners in here….
optimism…? where how when ?
Ryan, he told me.
special arranged ones geoff i reckon mate like they did for minerio when we trialed him
ade, rvp
nasri, diaby, denilson, ramsey
clichy, djourou, gallas, kolo/eboue
fab
i think thats about the best we can hope for
Michael, I decided it was time to return to the positive side!
yea thats the team AT
Fair enough Geoff – so did u get the chance to convey any of your thoughts to him at that time ?
Xeeez the Carling cup is too far away, he should return next week if my sums are correct.
I’ll be back in an hour Grovers.
He listens to no one Ryan!
I don’t think ramsey would play on the wings….
Yes Geoff!! I like it. Good post.
Amongst all the doom and gloom, the shining beacon that is the good-ship legrove wades through…..
Ok Choy, except for you!
Guys if u saw the england game last night then u wld undestand what i meant a few weeks ago when i suggested that we dont necessarily need a tough tackling CM. Carrick (I know a lot of you dont rate him) did a tidy job breaking the Germans play several times just by simply identifying the threat and nullifying it either by intercepting passes or closing down players in a similar fashion to what Gilberto used to do in his form days at arsenal or like wat Mikel does for Chelsea. Thats what we need. If Arsene nurtures Diaby he could easily do that for us. Being leggy really helps in doing that job
RvP looked sharp last night….
Lansbury bagged a goal for the u21s…
Ramsey put in a good performance for Wales…
Really looking forward to Eduardo coming back…
And Vela will miss a few internationals!!!
Feel the positivity flowing back, slowly but surely!
The other part of the puzzle is having no nonsense taking CBs that understand that they are defenders first. If we had two beasts at CB in the mould of Ferdinand and Vidic we wouldnt be here moaning about the lack of midfield signings
Franchise – Diaby for CM – agree with you totally.
And IMO, Carrick is a top player.
choy… he did and against fener at home, and looked pretty decent to be fair… lets physical out there to
Geoff, you know from experience that failed experiments by our beloved boss doesn’t mean it’ll be shelved. In fact it generally means it’ll be tried more often so on the odd occassion that is successful he can tell us all “I told you so”. He has harped back to Bolton and Blackburn away far too many times this season.
i rate carrick to lads… he’s kinda ‘no frills’ but does a very good job in CM
oh sorry AT.. just had read somewhere that he can’t play on the wings or something like that
Nice left field post Geoff old boy. But there isn’t enough grunt left in the old wenger or the replacements @ handto get something in the PL, IMO. & he won’t buy, he is too pig headed.
I still think that all is not lost in the CL if he gets his back 4 organised before the business end of th comp.
Last night Australia were played off the park by Bahrain, but got a grouters goal in the 94th minute = 3 points towards the World Cup 2010. Wenger you can learn a lot from Pim Verbeek about getting results & looking absolutely shite
….how about the boy Ramsay. He has got to start this weekend, surely. Balls Mr wenger Balls
does anyone know who this defender van buyten is we are being linked with?
oh yeah and vela got sent off for mexico last night… hopefully in future internationals wenger might start him in a game when all his other players have been away on international duty
6’5 no-nonsense brick shithouse
and i agree ramsey has to start on the right against man city!
Just shows you how crap song is,he didn’t even feature in the 3-2 win south africa gave cameroon last night,when eric djemba djemba features instead of you,thats when you know you suck
that will do for me!!! buy him!
kenny as Geoff & pedro, & for that matter all the Grovers in the off season will testify. The Arsenal have been linked with 7,321 players & I think only Nasri & Bischop(spelling
) made through to The Club.
lol true and i wasnt getting my hopes up, but maybe would cud do a swap with bayern…. Toure/Gallas + Song + cash for Van Buyten + ribery(we need a right winger since theo is out). Likeliness of happenng???? not alot but worth a try lol
Morning Grovers, all this talk in the papers about us signing someone will probably not materialise. The likely ‘new signings’ will be Troare and Big Phil recalled. How I wish I am wrong.
Regarding the Theo injury and what it means, I think we will see the Passmaster back in midfield, with Kolo at RW.
then our central defence cud be JD and van buyten/silvestre
Ramsey played on the right for wales last night and had a decent game. he played on the right for us in the one game he started so if wenger has any sense surely he will play on the right for us against city.
Midfield of Ramsey, diaby, denilson/coquelin(id still rather give him a try than play song), nasri
kenny
I won’t hold my breathe over JD20 being included
Yes Kenny!! Am with you on Coquelin!!!
gnarley im not but a man can dream cant he? lol
Van Buyten has had a highly successful first season at the Bavarian club, forming a formidable Centre-Back partnership with Brazilian Lucio. Van Buyten scored his first goal for Bayern Munich against Energie Cottbus on 9 December 2006. Bayern ran out 2-1 winners and it was Van Buyten’s goal which secured the win. Van Buyten then scored his second goal for the club in the loss to Borussia Dortmund. However, Van Buyten’s most valuable contribution came against AC Milan on 3 April 2007, in the first-leg of the Champions League quarter-final. Van Buyten scored two priceless away goals to level the match and giving Bayern Munich the advantage in the tie (see below). The two close range efforts doubled his tally to four goals for the season.
In Europe
In the first leg of the 2006-2007 UEFA Champions League quarter-final encounter against AC Milan at the San Siro, he scored twice with his left foot, once in the 78th minute to take Bayern to 1-1. Then he scored a stoppage time half-volley. This takes his tally to thre total UEFA Champions League goals. He scored one for Marseille in 2003 against Real Madrid.
he won,t buy anyone so don,t get your hopes up with shortlists !
Kenny
I’ve had crazy psychadelic dreams about Big Johan holding back waves of the opo attacks, but, the dreams aren’t working anymore. Apparently its better to look to be playing pretty footy for the fans than to actually parade down to Islington Town hall in a bus carrying a trophy or two end of season these days.
I’m starting to sound really sarcy now I know, but that performance against Villa was horrid to say the very least.
There are a few options to replace Walcott. Ramsey (very versatile), Vela (on the left making Nasri come to the right), Diaby (so not a winger), Wilshere (young but brilliant), Eboue (with Toure at RB) and finally Bischoff who is comfortable playing wide.
I make that 6 options so we will be fine. Question is, who is the best option.
For me Eboue is not really good enough in the long term. he can play 30 minutes there but I dont rate him as a winger. Diaby is playing well but only as a central midfielder near cesc so a definite no for me. Vela is a bit too attacking, but for goals he would be a good option in a 4-3-3 rather than the 4-4-2.
wilshere has been great in the CC, but is he really ready for the premier league? I have a suspicion that wenger might think not. Not for another year in reality.
we are down to Bischoff and Ramsey. Bischoff is possibly still proving his fitness but from what I have seen of him he is a good creative player. can he track back and do his bit defensively? I have no idea. Ramsey would get the nod for me. not a traditional winger but i’d like to see him get a chance because he is clearly a good player who can tackle and being British wont give up when the opposition get in his face. not saying Brits are the only ones who have that quality but the team has lacked that person since Flam left.
Arsen will play diaby, fab, denilsen, nasri across the middle, that is untill eboue’s fit. this week, with fab being suspended, i expect it to be diaby, song, denilsen, nasri.
will diaby be our next captain, he fits the bill, viera, henry, gallas, all french and black!
Morning Geoff – spot on with today’s post. Good as he is, the loss of Theo will force AW to look at other options and actually start a game with plan ‘B’
We all know that certain contributors have their own agendas and favourite players, but once again, the Ramsey’s not ready brigade came out of the woodwork again last night. I couldn’t be bothered to get involved again, but since the more balanced individuals are on here this morning, let’s look at the facts. Ramsey ran the midfield and was the driving force for the 3 nil win against Wigan. He was arguably the best player in Wales’ 1 nil win over Denamrk in his first full international. He is strong, he can pass, he can shoot, he can run for 90 minutes – I defy anyone to coherently argue that he is not ready to start against citeh in any of the midfield positions.
Rasputin
I expect diaby, song, denilsen, nasri..
I would like it to be
rambo,diaby, denilsen, nasri
You look @ a bloke like Capello with England. He’s fresh; up for the challenge; believes he can make a difference.
Then you look @ Wenger already invented. Just hanging on. Conservative @ a time when bold decisions might just work. Last year he made those decisions, but he might as well be 1,000,000 light years away from that this year.
Any other fresh hungry manager would pick the bleeding obvious for this weekend, Ramsay (& while your @ it JD20
)
anyone seen Defour play?
Easier siad than done Rasputin. Any of the midfield positions? Right midfield definitely IMO playing him centrally against Citeh isnt ideal but what do I know. I just have flashes of how we were out run in midfield against McClaren’s FC Twente in the CL Qualifiers. The pairing was Ramsey and Denilson he looked clueless in that game….
I’m sorry but arsene is NOT going to go and buy anybody. He has already come out and said he sees no reason to purchase anybody in the january transfer window. this means that song will come into the midfield, replacing walcott.
wenger will not risk playing rambo and wilshere….even though i personally believe they could probably play better than the other midfielder in the team.
on the bright side…it seems like djorou might actually break into the starting XI….wenger says he is much improved and will become a first team starter soon…can’t wait (although gallas and silvestre have been playing pretty well together in the last few weeks)
Franchise
Ramsay has come on since then. Can you tell me that there is a better option really in The Club that has “Future” metorphorically written on his forehead than ramsay.
I believe he wld do a better job than Theo in RM. Theo’s progress has been in reverse gear since his hat trick for England. From my perspective he didnt even play well in that match
Something’s wrong with the balance and motivation of our team if RVP can score two, and bendtner plays a blinder in the internationals – why are they not performing to the sae standard for us?
In the case of Bendtner, I think he shouldn’t be played up front on his own, RVP just needs more composure in front of goal and to generallly work harder when not in possession of the ball. AW says that JD hasn’t got the engine to play in midfield, but I’d like to see him given a chance if he’s not going to get a crack at CB.
Rasputin, did you watch the Wales match?
What’s your point paulinho – don’t you think ramsey had a good game?
Gnarley rightly pointed out by yourself ‘Future’ is the key word. CM is the hardest position to get accustomed to. England have tried Rio in the middle in the past and he was woeful an we are talking about an experienced CB here. Throwing Ramsey in the middle against Citeh who look like a very decent attacking side is kamikaze like to me especially on the back of the run of results we have had. However we could do with his tenacity on the right and he wld prove a better link up player than Walcott
Its a shame that a club like Arsenal are still gambling with midfield partnerships 4 months into the season. Shocking really
Franchise
The worst thing that can happen is that Ramsay & JD20 get found out. But at least the effort was made, & things can move on. A lot of people want it, & hey could anything be worse than that performance against Villa, Hull, Stoke, Spuds fade out, etc.
I honestly cant believe that on Arsenal.com that AW is entertaining the idea of playing DJ20! oh and we wont sign anyone good, it will be another Hot Prospect. but heres to wishing!
It is shocking, but a harsh reality.
Rob
I have crapped on about JD20 to the point of being a pain in the arse(nal) but if he comes a cropper I will take my medicine from even ethangunner.
Night all, before he gets on. i know he’s out there.
I think Ramsey, Denilson, Nasri, and Diaby should be the midfield with Wilshere coming on with Coquelin or Bitchslap.
JD should be a shoe in with Kolo/Gallas/Silvestre and Clichy and Eboue if fit.
Try Robin up front with Simpson, or Ade or Bendtner but no more 4-5-1. I really think Robin will turn into one of the best in the world, I really, really do.
ManCity will play football I think so we need to attack, attack, attack.
Leave Song at the Grove, Coquelin’s the man.
hello fellas….
good to see Geoff you still posses some Optimism from Arsene’s Part..:p lols…
but can i hurt ur optimism??????? ok i ll tell you…..
it is confirmed that Arsenal has Called back Barazite who is on loan at Derby…he will be coming back on 31st of december arsenal are not increasing his loan to the end of season….
And barazite has been playing on the right wing for derby Arsene also rates him very highly and i believe he will play him on right wing because he has some experience as wel now…. so he will not be buying another winger….:p
Well, I’m just wondering if you watched the game rather than simply going by some random match report.
I’ve always rated Ramsay so I’m not going to say he played poorly to back something I’ve previously said.
He showed good touches on the ball at times but overall had a pretty poor game. It seems evident at this point he can’t run all day as he looked absolutely knackered after about half an hour last night and got caught on the ball numerous times. Jack Collison seemed more of a presence in there.
I still don’t think he is ready to start a prem match and I think we would need Fabregas in there if he was to start. If we had another Fulham type game Ramsay would be sucked into the mire and would struggle.
I would still prefer him to an Eboue or Denilson though in some ways because you know he has the ability to do something those two can’t.
JD is ready he has shown it. Unless things get worse this weekend I dont think we should change the CB partnership. Our current problems are more as a result of how we play rather than who is playing. Against Villa we didnt create any chances yet we didnt vary our play. U can fault Gallas for the second we conceded but I believe that if we gave Villa smtin to worry about offensively then we wldnt have gotten into that situation in the first place
Derby has already arranged for his replacement
if he comes i ll be happy because he is so talented and skillful winger….
Was RvP the only scorer for us in the internationals last night?
Geoff, I agree that he should become one of the best in the world but how many years have we been saying that, all the while he has only shown flashes of his ability in between injuries. If he is to become the best he needs to play at least 35games a season not 20(if we’re lucky).
Geoff I agree with ur midfield selection. I wld pick Ade and RVP upfront and same back 4 with Toure replacing Sagna if Eboue isnt fit. It would be a busy day for our the full backs i.e. if Ireland and Robinho play wide
Did you watch the Wigan game Paulinho?
He ran for 90 minutes in that game and was still full of energy when Wigan were noticeably flagging.
I agree with Geoff. We’re not great at defending theses days – we should play 4 4 2 and take the game to City. They will want to play football and there should be more space on the pitch.
I’m happy to differ with you on Ramsey’s readiness. I hope AW agrees with me, but sadly I think he may be thinking along the same lines as you
RvP will come good for us this season…he seems to be a lot fitter this year, and stronger. If he stays fit, he will be MASSIVE for us this year. I can understand the criticism of some of his sillier moments, but the guy, IMO, is world-class….
no-one can take a free kick anywhere near like he can, he has the sweetest left foot…..
come on Robin!!!!
When is he back from the ban btw???
Excellent then we all agree, I’d have Barazite back as I rate him, but I think Wenger knows he needs someone that can play the holding role now and will use Theo as an excuse.
We have too many young’uns and bringing back Traore and Barazite won’t win us the league, I think he knows that now.
For once i’m optimistic that Wenger wld sign players needed in January. He said it himself that the league and CL are our top priorities. If we not gonna win either or both then that equates to a bad season especially if we are out of contention in the early days. 5 wins in the prem is a must. i dont see liverpool and chelsea winning their next 5 games especially for the fact that we play both teams in our next five. Ade and RVP are good enough to cause problems (goal wise) for these teams. the midfield just needs to function better. On Cesc’s return I wld like to see Diaby and Cesc in the middle with Nasri and Ramsey wide. The full backs should support the attack a bit more cautiously. We know we gonna concede goals but lets start scoring some thats what we have been known for since Wenger arrived.
Michael, by that you mean that the defenders fear his free kicks because he always hits the wall? Right?
“De Rossi is currently valued at around £15m but it is thought that, although the deal could prove an unusally costly piece of business for the Arsenal board, funds have been made available.”
Im telling you people, there WILL be signings this january. And top-quality ones too.
Saturday!
Stu, ur not an RvP fan then.
Your opinion, and your entitlement.
I have seen him play before he came to arsenal, he showed his potential then.
As long as he can stay fit, he will be huge for us.
He has scored some fantastic goals for club and country.
Bottom line is if he is fit, he will prove your opinions to be very wrong…and, for the good of the club, i hope he does.
I thought today was thursday?
Caiden, if you’re out there mate, you’re now on, sorry for the wait! Grovers check out his 10.15 comment, it’s a hoot!
can any1 tell me how cesc looked like for spain? did he play with heart and soul or looked th same as for us this season?
Vela on the right is also a possibility in the future. Mind u Geoff against the Chavs and the Scousers 4-5-1 would do it for me with Ade as the lone striker. RVP always plays on the right in a 4-3-3/4-5-1 for Holland i believe he can do the same for Arsenal.
I seriously dont understand why u would play Rambo on a wing? the bloke is flat out lasting in the centre. Quality player like him should be in the centre, with Wilkshire and Nasri on the flanks.
Morning all – top post Geoff, how do you do it, especially during a boring international week!
someone asked the question about why do RvP and Nik do it for their country and not for us – my view is that they are proud to wear their national shirt, they dont seem to pull out of games like the England players.
They need to remember who pays their salary though and perform like that for their clubs
The difference is Manure have changed their No2 quite often, so maybe Pat Rice needs to take a sideways step, and we get Mr Motivator ??
I am full of good ideas
i don’t think he will call back traore…..
because i don’t think there is an option of calling him back in his loan agreement….we ll not be needing him anyways if Barazite comes back our void left by walcott can be filled…. and i think Barazite’s skills with the ball are better than theo….
Firstly, thanks for making my mind up for me. I actually thought i was an rvp fan but thanks for telling me I wasnt.
Secondly: did you even what I said? I said he could become one of the est but somehow you read it differently. So…. basically you just hate me and want me to be wrong and you want him to be shit! good to know!
woops – lost a chunk of my post
something like, Fergy keeps his team motivated after all these years and we cant right now… hence the final comment
cesc had a decent game yesterday, nothing more.
RvP bagged two criply taken goals…..
I asked the question rico – you don’t hate me as well do you??
What does Pat Rice actuallt do? Looks like he just site next to wWenger and listens to his complaints about how shit the team he picked is playing, and then Pat gets up, shouts a bit and returns to AWs side. Am i anywhere close?
Stu…by comlimenting on his free kicks?
All im saying is that if he sorts his little ‘antics’ out, he is definately a world class talent, and i think he has come in for too much criticism.
And, on another note, i really cant understand the thinking behind wenger playing him on the left in a 5man midfield?? What a waste!! Why does he continue with this???
Apologies if i came across the wrong way my friend, nothing personal!
Theres nothin wrong in playing a 4-5-1/4-3-3 some of the best attacking teams ever seen in football played this way. Holland in Cryuff days, Barca in 2005/2006/2007/2008, ManU in 2007/2008, Holland 2006-2008 to name a few. It shouldnt necessarily hinder a team from playing attacking football. It actually makes a team keep possession better and makes them more secure defensively. Having that extra body in midfield cld help a team in bossing the game. Winning midfield control is very crucial in determining who wins a game and who loses. With the right mix of players last season we executed a 4-5-1 to perfection. What do u guys think?
Pat Rice is Arsene’s Agony Aunt…
I know Pat Rice. He is a really smashing fella and loves Arsenal like no other. Wenger doesn’t want him to be assistant manager and doesn’t look to him for advice. He serves his purpose to AW by appearing to be an assistant but actually not challenging him in any way.
i don’t think he will call back traore…..
because i don’t think there is an option of calling him back in his loan agreement….we ll not be needing him anyways if Barazite comes back our void left by walcott can be filled…. and i think Barazite’s skills with the ball are better than theo….
Franchise – I understand what you’re saying, but I think when we have a 5 man midfield composed of the players AW usually picks, it seems overcrowded – not just by the opposing midfield, but by our own players. Somehow we manage to lose width and it seems to negate the fantastic runs and through balls that used to characterise our play.
Good morning Pedro/Geoff and Le Grovers,
Interesting post Geoff.
I cant see us winning the league in any way shape or form BUT there is every reason for Wenger to buy now.
Another important player down may force Le Bosse’s hand into getting out the cheque-book.
Mind you, dont we have a HUGE cash reserve?
I wonder if clubs take off the VAT if cash is used?
We do in my line of work!!!!!!
Im sure Pat is great but I always thought a no.2 was there to eventually become no.1. I’d rather Bouldy as no.2 because he would probably do a better job and hopefully would tell Wenger where all his mistakes lay.
Not a lot of use then Rasputin eh?
Morning Rico and thanks, I find it easy because I’m an Arsenal bore, I can talk Arsenal all day to myself I love Arsenal so much!
David Dein was the only person who AW used to take notice of, I’m not sure any assistant manager would be able to influence him.
Geoff why are you putting my comments in moderation????????
Wrighty, £10m+ in cash! I wouldnt want to be the man responsible for carrying that.
Morning Wrighty, in my business I don’t get away with anything, straight bat and pay for all those arseholes on benefits.
Franchise,
I personally like the 4-3-3 but you must have the correct personnel to use it.
I think you need a rigid back-four where the full-backs stay back.
A sitting midfielder who allows the other two in the middle to go forward.
Two out and out wingers who STAY wide!
And a striker who grafts and can hold the ball up.
Hate to say it but Chelsea played this formation to perfection in Mourinho’s first and second seasons at the club.
Rookie I’m not, I have no idea how they got in there, sorry mate!
Tell me about it Stu, I shit myself when I’m carrying a ton in my back burner!
Rob from Aus Arsenal’s midfield have an average age of 20 years I think that is with Cesc, Nasri, Denilson and Walcott playing. Already too young IMO. They all might end up being world class players but right now are still years away from it. You think throwing in a 17 yr old Welsh talent in the middle would improve our current situation? Its actually unfair on the player. Playing Ramsey on the right seems logical cos he wld have less to worry about. His involvement in the game would be sporadic. If u play him in the centre then he wld have too much of a burden to bear.
Although the comments on Song at 10.15 are funny..
It is hard to play when you are on a three match ban..
Morning Geoff,
I like to do it with old customers really. They always pay cash and it helps them out by making it cheaper for them.
We aint all rogues in the window game! LOL
Barca are playing 4-3-3 to near perfection at the moment. Sitting pretty at the top of LaLiga and are already tipped for the title. They play with 2 marauding fullbacks but i suppose thats becuase they play a DM and Xavi too.
Wrighty 7 but Chelsea are playing better football than us currently in a 4-3-3 and Bosingwa and Cole/Bridge spend most of the game in their opponets half. I think a holding midfield player is can provide cover in such a scenario. I actually think that ‘flying full backs’ are key to this formation
Franchise,
I think Ramsey would flourish in the middle but you are right about it being too much of a burden for him at his age.
Did he play in the middle for Wales last night?
I was gonna watch that instead of England to see him but I got sucked into watching the THREE LAMBS instead!
Although to be fair, England played well last night.
Stu u got the words out of my mind
i think it was computer malfunction lols…….
i would want Arsene to sell SONG in January and buy Jack collison and with the money he has from Summer he should buy an experienced midfielder..Alonso, Barry, yaya or anyone with experience who can be of different dimension…cesc and Denilson are too similar
Franchise
Untill we get a world class goalie and a better defense, its hard to even dream about a 4-3-3. They way we are playing now we could have 8 at the back and still let goals in.
He played on the right when he featured for Cardiff
He played on the right for Wales last night
He plays sometimes on the right and other times in the middle for Wales U21
He has the skills, workrate and intelligence to play anywhere in midfield but he would need a few years o a fair no. of low pressure games to excel in CM
Alex its cos we dont have a Gilberto, Mikel, Keita, Alonso, Mascherano, Carrick in our team. Barca have a shitty GK and I wouldnt say their back 4 is necessarily better than ours. Their offensive players are excellent though
Wrighty you fibber! I’ve had the same window cleaner at my office for 16 years and have paid cash for 16 years! Avenall how on earth did he get banned?
they have messi
I think that Chelsea will get caught out against the big sides using this formation.
Its good and effective against the smaller sides because Chelsea have the right players to break down defences.
Look at them against Manchester United, Liverpool and Roma, outplayed in all of them.
It gives me hope when Arsenal play them.
I think we will at least get a point against them next week.
I know I’ve ruled us out of the League but I reckon we will achieve 4-6 points against Manchester City and Chelsea.
And yes, I AM serious!
Ahhh but Geoff that’s window cleaning. I’m a Double Glazing Repair Specialist! LOL
I think that Arsene wld only play Ramsey in the middle if we have a 5 man midfield. I expect him to play a 4-4-2 against Citeh though. So we might see Rambo on the right. ‘MIGHT’ For all u know he might pick Song
Geoff..
Cameroon midfielder Alexandre Song Billong has been handed a three-match ban by world soccer governing body FIFA after he was sent off for a second booking in the World Cup qualifying tie away to Cape Verde in September…
Sad about Ted Moult Wrighty!!!
OK you win Wrighty! Thanks Avenall.
I’m not having that Avenell,
Song was suspended because,
A) He is shit
B) He is terrible
Or
C) He is shit
Pick your answer’s please! LOL
Wrighty for a team like Chelsea making the transition from defensive side to attacking side it was always going to take a while for them to get used to the way the play. It is still the same formation anyway but more adventurous. They must be doing something right though as they have scored the most in the league and conceded the least amount of goals.
I’ll go with shit if I may!
Am I right to say that Chelsea and L’pool have gotten the most points at this stage of any season (13 games) 32 points. that is only 7 points dropped. fucking amazing
Avenell,
Please excuse my ignorance but who is Ted Moult???
Shit
He used to play for Everest Wrighty.
“Fit the best fit Everest”. The bloke on the adverts who killed himself..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Moult
Franchise,
They are definitely doing something right mate!
I think they will win the League, they seem very determined this season, BUT I still reckon they will struggle against the big sides who aren’t afraid to go at them.
Geoff urself and Pedro are using Le-Grove as a mind controlling device. If ur posts are negative the atmosphere is negative and vice versa. Impressive
Is this beginning in your quest for World Domination. lol. You might be stopped by Captain Song so beware 
Please include Song as a swap in ANY deal done in January Wenger!!!
Micahel that would potentially put off any deals
I would have said that Chelsea look favourites but I’m not sure now considering they lost to pool, drew to spurs(convincingly) and have lost at home twice already this season. (sound familiar) They look shit against the better teams, plus they lost to Roma who are 11th in Serie a.
brb guys
Ohhhhh THAT Ted Mount!
He’s everyones hero in the Window Industry!
wrighty you should of added an “all of the above” option
Michael i agree….. We should convince bayern that Song is a really good centre back and swap him with van buyten……. how the hell we are going to manage to convince them that song is a really good centre back???? FUCK KNOWS! i think we should just pray for a miracle that bayern are thick as fuck and agree to the deal!
Ha Ha Ha, Caiden top darts re Song fella……..
Dear Lord,
We know you know that we have suffered with Alex Song for way too long,
It is time, my Lord, for him to move on,
We will wish him well,
As you can Tell, (This rhymes so far and you know it!)
If you can convince the Bayern board to WANT him in a deal invloving
The 6’5 bricksh*thouse VanBuyten in January 2009
Amen
Franchise you got me! Kenny good call, but no fucker would have Song, the only person who rates him is Wenger.
the only weapon RVP has is his sweet left foot. the fact as a striker he has no right foot is very damaging to the team. he always wants the ball on his left. that means even when he is in on goal. he stops, he takes 2 or 3 touches to shift it onto his left foot and then the chance has gone. he is so skillful but for me he is ineffective in open play. what has he actually done in 4 seasons? every time he has threatened to look great he either gets injured or suspended. A striker at Arsenal should easily be getting 20 goals a season. Ade has shown he can do it. RVP has not. the jury is still out on RVP, though clearly wenger rates him and has just given him a new contract.
Will players like Eduardo and Vela who are natural goalscorers, ever get a run in the team? that is a worry for me.
Michael lol. I hope the lord answers your prayers…. I really hope Alex Song doeant read le grove cause it wud be devastating for him … or maybe it would be a good thing as he will maybe realise he is SHITE and fuck off to another club!!!! Yes alex do you hear that your shite now fuck off!!!
Rasp – for sure i dont hate you…
I uderstand where you are coming from Geoff, sometimes i bore myself talking about footie – i have been baking, as we girlies do, and i am going to try and ‘engrave’ Le Grove on the top of my loaf of bread before it goes in the oven later, if its any good i will send to the funnies section, but please dont hold your breath…
I am pooped now, too much kneading!!
gazzap.. if rvp stays fit.. i’m sure he will hit 20.. no right foot? how about the sweet one against the spuds!
vela and eduardo are more left footed than rvp
Rico,
I bet you make a really good wife, you are always baking bread, feeding chickens and doing homely stuff.
Your husband is a lucky man!
And please don’t think I’m taking the mickey Rico, because honestly, I’m not!
Oh Lord wont you find us,
A big centre back,
We’re stuck with Song,
How the fuck did we manage that?
Wrighty,
Thats a really kind comment, thank you. But I do spoil the chicken and piggies more than the better half –
Wrighty, I didnt think that for one minute, i promise
Guys how do you get ur smilys right mine don’t work, are there different codes for them on Word press?????
rookie –
right curser over the smiley and type what you see
Catchprase – ‘Say what you see’ – but this is Type …….. (yellow card ?? )
put curser, not right!! idiot rico
Anyone just heard our joke of a captain has come out and publicly slated our youngsters yet again! He has basically thrown a tantrum because he had to deal with problems between players and the draw against the yids….what the fuck does he think having the responsibility of wearing the armband means??
We should pull out all the stops in january to buy yaya from barca…. now i know there is alot of uncertainty about how much money we have to spend but if we dont have enough ill start a whip-round for crying out loud. Do a petition and ask all the arsenal fans if they think we need a DM. all the fans that reply “yes” will donte a pound a week til the january transfer window…. if you think how many arsenal fans are out there we would easy make up the money or at least to go halfs with the club to buy him. 56,000 fans go to the emirates and i hear there is a 30,000 waiting list for season tickets so 86,000 for starters 86,000 x £1 for 6 weeks = £516,000. that would be a good start. Plus all the fans like me that dont live in london and cant really get to games there are thousands and thousands more!
i know we shouldnt have to do something like that but i would do it if i knew wenger would spend it on a half decent DM!!
gazzap there are only a few players out there that are comfortable using both feet. VP sweet left foot is actually an asset to the club. Who was the last person to score from a free kick for Arsenal? You are right. VP. The guy has got tricks, he is an instinctive player, he can score from unbelievable angles. He has been injury free for 2 months (Thank God). Give the guy a break
of course i cant see any arsenal fan agreeing that song is good enough at DM so naturally everyone wud reply yes lol
it does’nt show anything perhaps my PC is fucked…
franchise i see where your coming from with RVP but he really does miss the easiest chances sometimes though… look at fener game at home
I look forward to seeing the Le Grove loaf Rico.
I’ll send quid Kenny!
comfortable shooting i meant
Ha Ha Rico,
I’ve just a had vision of you feeding your husband with chicken scoop and giving the chicken a roast dinner! Beef of course!
Gallas says our youngster dont show enough fight in games…. what about him letting Gabby through to score their second on saturday??? which he has already admitted to being at fault for… lead by example willy!!!!!
Franchise, well said. RvP will be MASSIVE for us (if he stays fit, touch wood)
have u seen some of the chances that Torres, Villa, Henry,Kanu, Rooney (in bold), Anelka (PL top scorer), Maradona, Pele, Etoo, CR7, R9 aka Fat Boy……… have missed?
Against Fener he was just unlucky, pure and simple…any other day, he would have bagged a hat trick Stu, you RvP lover you!
Hold on Geoff i dont think wenger would agree to spending the money anyway so its probably a useless proposition….. although i might suggest it to the ATVO online commentry team at the next game and see what they think…. maybe they cud bring it up with wenger in his post match press conference with Man City see what he thinks.
Or somehow if i cud just get a hold of Arsene Wengers personal email address ill email him! lol
I could just guess and send emails to a heap of addresses and hopefully one of the will be his……
It must be something like A_wenger@hotmail.com or awenger123@hotmail.com surely….. it couldnt be too far off! lol lol
A scum fan gave me a newspaper cut out of a picture of Arsene Wenger saying “I don’t have a rational explanation for what happened.”
I have now stuck it next to my work laptop so everytime I’m angry with Wenger I have a go at the picture!!! Good Therapy!!
Guys stick Alonso or Cana next to Cesc, play Gallas along Djourou or Silvestre, put Nasri and Rosicky on the wings. Play Clichy and Sagna as Full backs Ade and RVP upfront. Have a World Class GK between the sticks and see how unstoppable that team wld be. We are not playing well doesnt neccesarily mean all our players are bad. Vela, Eduardo, Ramsey, Theo, LJW on the bench fucking hell
If wenger wont play JD in defense and wont buy a DM then why the fuck doesnt he convert JD into a DM?!?!?
Im sure he could reach the fitness levels needed and for me he knows the defensive side of the game so it wouldnt be a hard thing to do wud it???
Wrighty, now thats more like it, we are veggies though, so the chickens have nothing to fear
kenny – he played there on loan i think
Kenny he is a defensive midfielder, he was converted to a centre back by Wenger!
theo has undergone an operation on the shoulder Arsene has confirmed…
I like Djourou in the centre of defence and think that he should play there. He looks really solid.
We should purchase a defensive midfielder, I think we will too.
Good point Kenny i hope we stop this conversion bullshit though we need a new face in the team obviously in midfield. Someone that would turn heads, freshen things up u know. If not we would keep getting square pegs in a round hole. Chelsea suffered it last year in the CL final playing Essien at RB when his energy and tenacity would have made more sense in the middle. At the end of the day essien gets outjumped by Ronaldo and chelsea are one goal down. A player has spent most of his professional playing life in a position, play him there. If he’s not good enough for the position inthe first place buy someone better then
Willy G has opened his big cakehole again
Fuck it, I don’t care anymore. Give it to them Willy!
“‘When, as captain, some players come up to you and talk to you about a player… complaining about him… and then during the match you speak to this player and the player in question insults us,’ Gallas said.
‘There comes a time where we can no longer comprehend how this can happen.’
Gallas would not reveal the player’s name, although he said the incident occurred during an attacking phase of play.
‘I am trying to defend myself a bit without giving names. Otherwise I’m taking it all (the blame). It’s very frustrating,’ he said. ‘I’m 31, the player is six years younger than me.’
That puts the player in question at 25. That only leaves Bacary Sagna and RVP. I know who my money would be on!!! Great player though he is, Van Persie could start a fight in an empty room.
He has hasnt he. Those are great words from our capi. Shut your pie hole Gallas.
Let the speculation begin about:
“I’m 31, the player is six years younger than me.”
He has revealed that one player insulted him during a match, though he refused to name names.
“When, as captain, some players come up to you and talk to you about a player…complaining about him… and then during the match you speak to this player and the player in question insults us,” Gallas told AP. “There comes a time where we can no longer comprehend how this can happen.
“I am trying to defend myself a bit without giving names. Otherwise I’m taking it all (the blame). It’s very frustrating,” he said. “I’m 31, the player is six years younger than me.”
Wonder who the player that gallas was talking about here.
RVP perhaps?
If I were AW, Galls current stupid comments would be the final straw, grow balls Arsene, take the armband off him, give it to
Almunia
Cesc
Clichy
Kolo
Or even Robin – make a point Arsene
Gallas is a whiner i bet this is his last season at the emirates
Franchise – i wont be sorry if it is, i wish we would play JD and Kolo/Silvestre, Gallas could be the bad apple in our camp
RVP is a scorer of great goals not a great goal scorer. I dont see him being prolific or getting crucial goals, and the way he takes so many touches to get it onto his left foot infuriates me. he also gives away possession a lot and cant win a ball in the air. other than that his left foot is SWEET!
Kolo’s 25 is he not, who’s been dropped recently? It has to be Robin though, Kolo’s too respectful.
Though his form has been shit and he didn’t get made captain did he???
Kolo is 27 now Geoff.
The other possible culprit would be Eboue – frankly I wouldn’t put anything past him, although he seems to have a good relationship with most of the players.
Maybe Galls is the reason for the drop in form of kolo?
I’m fully behind Gallas. Captaincy only becomes an issue when you’ve got a shit team. A proper team doesn’t need a captain. Look at Rio Ferdinand at United.
Paulinho – but what is the use of airing your dirty laundry in public? What purpose does it serve? Deal with things internally, not through the media.
ade was my bet… i could see someone like nick b having a word with gallas about his arrogance and ade telling him to fuck off… why would anyone complain about RVP?
Gazzap just leave this RVP witch hunt alone. What is ur definition of a crucial goal? What makes u think he isnt or cant be a prolific goal scorer? It dont make sense to me. IMO every goal is crucial be it the first, second, third, against stoke, mancs, chelsea. Van Persie has scored openers, equalisers, game winners, freekicks, headers (westham away last season), 35 yarders, tapins. I dont know what u exactly mean.
I thought that I was the only one that was secretly happy about Walcott being injured; it seemed obvious that Wenger was going to have to abandon one of his pet projects and be forced to play plan B. Although, I must admit, that the possibility of Wenger using his injury as a reason to buy in January had not crossed my mind; but after mulling it over, I’m not convinced.
The reason being is that the last excuse Wenger used to buy a player was the departure of Hleb to purchase Nasri and I am convinced that this is the only excuse he will use to spend real money on a new player.
This is the only excuse that enables him to protect his precious youth policy; it is the only excuse that doesn’t as he puts it: kill the enthusiasm of the younger players.
By January we should know what is happening to Rosicky; one more operation and there will be no doubt that he will be out for the rest of the season which should give Wenger the excuse to buy an experienced midfield player.
However, if Rosicky is going to be fit then we will have the equivalent of a new signing; the kind of player that we are all crying out for: an experienced, late 20 year old.
If Rosicky returns then the only thing that will motivate Wenger to sign in January is if a Sylvestre type player comes on the market – cheap, a 2 mill bargain or of course a 15 year old.
Hi Gazzap how are you? I couldn’t believe the kind of abuse you received on that other site.
Crucial Goals…..
RvP v Manure, came on a sub, scored a great goal when we were 1-0 down, broke a bone in his foot in the process, and i think Henry headed in for the win…. That goal of his was crucial, an impact substitution i think, remember those Arsene
thank you Paulinho we’ve heard all sort of shit from the press that captain does this and that bla, bla, bla. Giggs was mostly the captain of Manu last season They say the captain has to be vocal, Giggs is as quiet as u would get. Captaincy is not an issue. Tony Adams would not have been able to save us from our current slump just by being captain.
Franchise, but why does the idiot have to let the whole world know, a good captain would just go about his business in a professional way. Why cant he just get on and play footie, all he has done is open up another can of worms and fed more crap to the likes of MOTD and SSN’s, more ammo to use against us… ppffff
gallas wants out its obvious…he’s thinking ‘if i rock the boat and upset a few people ill be off by the summer latest and chilling out back in france’
NOT SURE ITS RVP PEOPLE…
On the in-fighting Gallas referred to an incident in the defeat to Stoke and added: “When, as captain, some players come up to you and talk to you about a player … complaining about him … and then during the match you speak to this player and the player in question insults us.
“There was a problem at halftime. The only thing that I could say at halftime was ‘Guys, we resolve these problems after the match, not at halftime.”’
RVP was playing at this point, he came on later on
Rico, cause he’s the one getting blamed for all our current ails. Why should he sit back and take all the criticism when barely any of it is of his making.
These pampered little princes need a good shaking. They’re all in a dream world.
Gallas is getting a bit long in the tooth and his options are diminishing. There is also the posibility that Wenger might want to do something radical with the defence.
Ok I know, now I am talking rubbish.
Gallas going public about internal club issues is disappointing though. he is just an overgrown baby. He acts like one anyway. That sort of behaviour is not expected from any member of the team. On that note I think he should be removed as the captain at the end of the season and he should move on. He is having a henry like negative impact on the team. I bet you he would go on and on about his Chelsea days to the Arsenal players.
Toure: willy why did you allow that 6ft 5 defendr tap the ball in when we played fulham at craven cottage
Gallas: Toure dont start with me. It is because the u guys are shit. When I was at Chelsea……..
Swap Gallas for Cana in January?
Told you guys not to hold your breath, went to ‘engrave’ my loaf with the famous words and the dough started to flop, next time i will try it before it sits!! Sorry Geoff
A.Tom:
We have a couple of bad apples in the club.
My choice is ‘Robin & Bill’. Perhaps we could create a cartoon programme with them as two ‘orrible characters’. At least it would pass the diversity board selection
maq, yes pelase!!!
arsenal news review has a new psot claiming we’ve sorted out our new CEO
Paulinho – but let him do it behind closed dorrs, not feed the fire in the press… But as suggested, maybe he is setting himself up to join old Claude at psg
double G lol mate… im sticking with it being ade… after nutting bendter its pretty obvious he doesnt care about his team mates very much, i know he’s 24, but i reckon gallas was giving a ball park figure, plu sRVP wasnt playing at the time
As much I as I disagree with several articles by Myles Palmer (ANR) he has alot of inside knowledge of the club. I wouldnt discount the CEO story though. But the part about him being a lawyer so he could negotiate the sale of the club is purely speculative. That equates to another shit article from MP
I admit that it doesn’t really help Gallas’ cause when we hear stories like this but where is the source of this coming from?
I only ask because when it comes the media I’d like to give the benefit of the doubt to an Arsenal player over them.
We all know how much they bullshit. Remember Cesc a month or so ago?
swap gallas for carvalho.. for the defeat at stoke.. i think it would be adebayor!!
True Wrghty but I could bet a tenner that Gallas uttered something similar to that
yo
wordpress is shit, i am logged on and sagna is my avatar
anyway, for those of you who like me think silvestre is a manc wanker and unfit to wear the shirt, fair play. for the others, take a look at this link and then tell me you are glad to have him playing at the expense of JD. not that I expect any replies.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/silvestre-my-managerial-aspirations
gallas is just sorting out his arsenal exit… its obvious, he knows if he rocks the boat wenger will have to get rid of him…
one of wengers classic lines is ‘this team has a fantastic spirit’ so he cant be having stories like this going around
i currently think silvest is a pretty useful defender.. he deals with high balls pretty well.. just need that dm now!
choy… and a winger or 2!!!!
Stories like what? What did Captian fantastic say?? All good I hope! lol
and a keeper, oh and a world class striker whle we’re at it.
C’mon what did Gallas say???
If it’s true what he said then the person responsible must be punished. A monetary fine is the best way as the pocket is where it hurts the most. If i had to guess i’d go with RvP. He’s not a team player and seems like can’t take criticism, that’s probably why he got himself sent off in this stupid manner. Whoever it was has to be fined though. And also fine Gallas while you’re at it for opening up his big mouth again. For a 31 year old captain of Arsenal FC he sure knows how to whine a lot.
Did anyone see Ajax vs PSV at the weekend. Magnificant football by MVBs team. They beat their biggest rivals 4-1 and that was without Klaas-Jan Huntelaar. In terms of eventually replacing Wenger, I wouldnt mind seeing Van Basten at the helm. We all know the great foorball his teams play. Anyone??
nah dobbi.. against stoke rvp wasn’t playing in the first half!
WHAT DID HE SAY/DO??????????
Whatever Guys! We need to win our next 5 games to be within touching distance of the top 2 teams. Unless January’s signings wldnt make too much sense. If we sign Alonso or Cana they wld be cup tied in the CL meaning that they can only play in the league and domestic cups. If we not in contention for the league then only the cups.
Oh… my bad. Who do you think it was then Choy?
Don’t get me wrong, Gallas is prone to whingeing but I’d bet that these comments aren’t half as bad as they are made out to be.
Whatever the case, it shouldn’t have been made public but I’m not going to stick my neck out until the truth is really known.
Stu Gallas said the following:
“When, as captain, some players come up to you and talk to you about a player…complaining about him… and then during the match you speak to this player and the player in question insults us,” Gallas told AP. “There comes a time where we can no longer comprehend how this can happen.
“I am trying to defend myself a bit without giving names. Otherwise I’m taking it all (the blame). It’s very frustrating,” he said. “I’m 31, the player is six years younger than me.”
It almost sound like a riddle. He should have just added ‘guess who it is’. lol
if its a choice between supporting RVP and supporting a chav who we should never have bought, I’ll go for RVP. Gallas should have never worn our shirt.
Gallas comments can be seen on the sun website.
After reading them I say good on him. At least he is telling us the truth and how it really is.
Im fed up with wengers bullshit about team spirit and togetherness its all a load of crap. Gallas is right in his comments and I hope the other first teamers take it on board.
We’ve got an ex-Chav, ex-Manc, Alonso should complete the loop as an ex-Scouser in January.
Thanks Dobbi.
Agreed Pierre, i prefered Gallas when he was with Chelsea. Can ye fucking believe that our starting CB pair are gowls who won titles with our main rivals.
Oops, sorry, i meant ARE STILL winning titles for our main rivals.
jesus stu read the comments instead of throwing toys out of your pram in capital letters, about five people have pasted the whole quote now! :rollseyes:
Yeah Franchise, so who are the feeder clubs now lol!
Pierre
Gallas wanted to sign for us and Mourinho went mental at Kenyon for letting him go. He may of played for chelsea but I would rather him in our colours than cashley.
Al, i suppose Gallas was right to sit and cry in the center circle at Birmingham last year
Pierre Gallas wasn’t right in dong what he did againts Birmingham, but all he did was show emotion which boiled to the surface. In some of our other players you don’t even get as much – Ade, Song, Denilson to name a few. I know which one i prefer.
No he wasnt right but everone makes mistakes here is the rest of the article what is so wrong with what he is saying.
He said: “There was a problem at half-time.
“The only thing I could say was ‘Guys, we resolve these problems after the match, not at half-time’.”
Gallas is confident there is still time for Arsenal to rescue their title challenge.
But he believes his team-mates need to learn to roll up their sleeves and fight for the right to play attractive football.
He added: “For me the title is not over, it’s true that we are nine points behind Chelsea but you have to be optimistic and you can’t give up.
“Four defeats is a lot but it’s a long season.
“I think it will be very tight this year and we will have to hope that Chelsea draw a few games and have a few defeats.
“We have to understand that to be champions, you have to play big matches every weekend and fight.
“We are coming up against teams who are not scared to play football against us, who are not scared to take us on at our place, and this is becoming dangerous for Arsenal.
“We are not brave enough in battle. I think we need to be soldiers. We have to be warriors.
“There are teams who can do it well against us and we have to be able to face up to these attacks.
“That is how they will forge their character and how they will get experience.
“Even though they’ve played a certain number of matches, they’re still young and still learning.”
Arsenal’s youngsters earned praise after their Carling Cup thrashing of Wigan last week.
But Gallas thinks the senior players must start winning trophies soon if they are to have any influence on the kids.
He said: “They can have the same success.
“The problem is that Manchester United’s youngsters have been through something, they have won something.
“I have to win something this year. I have to win something and Arsenal have to win something.
“It’s four or five years since Arsenal won anything and that’s not good.”
Peirre……. after that injury, a lot of people were propper down……. maybe not the best reaction, but he’s a human after all… and seeing anything like that up close can be pretty fooking emotional…
He’s had some great games since, let’s stop moaning and get behind our boys.
We can’t bring anyone in until January
Honesly, the emerates is getting more and more like Chelski every week.
Where has our legendary North Bank cru gone????
They make me happy when skys are grey!
Come on the Arsenal
Lets make one thing clear I am not Gallas’sbiggest fan and the way he conducts himself leaves a lot to be desired he is not in my opinion captain material like Tony Adams or Viera was but good players always produce the goods when its needed and he has scored crucial late goals for us in big games when its needed thats why he is our first choice centre back.
You know that!!!!
i’d rather have a willy than a C**t any fooking day : )
maybe i’m being harsh on Gallas but I never really rated him since before he left Chavs, he cost us badly at Fulham this year and how many other times has he nodded off in our 18 yard box? We have some fantastic players, but chosing Gallas and Silvestre above JD for me is just wrong, but it’s all entwined into the network of lies spun by Wenger in August “I wont kill a kid, unless its JD and the replacement is cheap and french”
BTW if it was Ade that caused all the shit then he can honestly fuck-off. Quite frankly I’ve had enough of him and his constant offsides and missed chances. Rather make way for someone else with a brain and more clinical finishing to lead the front line.
Last week, after we thrashed Wigan ( an established premiership side) and United scraped to a 1-0 win over QPT via a penalty, I read an article in the paper comparing the 2 teams and it was the same bollocks.
Fair enought they had basically the same team that played against Wigan but the United team was totally different. The put in some 18y.o. keeper instead or the starter Kuszack(thats defo spelt wrong), they had Anderson, Ronaldo, Rooney and Nani in tha Manc team. Thats bollocks because the Paper deliberately put in United reserves that no1 has ever heard of to make the manc team younger and even tried to pass Nani(21), Ronaldo and Rooney(both 23) off as kids. I wasnt really suprised though. Everyone “loves” united.
Hmmm maybe, I’ve nothing against JD either………
but would like to see him play maybe 5-6 games in a row before i can have a real opinion of him.
Agreed, he seems great in the air, but put that ball about at angles on the floor and I’m slightly concerned!
Oh man…. you’ve got me started now! LOL
One thing we should agree on: we need a defensive coach – very quickly! : )
Gallas has gone too far this time, there can be no doubt about it.
But anyone expecting Wenger to come out publicly and refer to the incident is barking mad. He never says anything bad about his players publicly, but I am convinced this will be the final straw and that either WG10 will lose the captaincy in January or be sold.
You can say ‘oh good for him for telling it like it is’, well that is bullshit frankly, no captain should ever dish the dirt on his teammates. YET AGAIN this is William Gallas looking out for William Gallas. He resents people looking unfavourably on his captaincy as a result of our poor form, so he blurts out a load of muck on the rest of the players. Instead of realising that he has sown the seeds of dissension from the first time he opened his fucking mouth. The captain is meant to stop other people from making stuff like this public, not be the one to do it.
Is it any wonder we have had no balls whatsoever in so many games? Gallas is rotting away the team’s spirit from the very core. We have all been blaming Wenger for fucking up, blaming the board, etc etc, but the reason the team are in such shit form is the man who should be their leader!
A captain inspires loyalty and is the last man standing as the ship goes down. Gallas would throw the entire Carling Cup team overboard if it meant he got a place in the lifeboat.
£16 mil for Alonson in Jan is still a possibility. he might resist though if L’Pool are still in contention for the league. He would want to win that i bet. however, if pool need the cash and arsenal meet his valuation then he more or less has to go. I dont think Benitez has ditched his plans to sell him its a matter of when i.e. which window he does it. I’ve not heard anything about Alonso extending his contract at Pool. I hope we sign him.
Al, fair enough Gallas scores some goals but most of the time his come goals after he fucks up at the back and has to redeem himself.
richaldo, yes, and has Keown not dropped a big enough hint by turning down Adams? Shame he’s not french, we’d snap him up.
I couldn’t give a shit who had a go I just want us to win I couldnt give a shit about team spirit unity and all that bollocks if I was a player I would want winners medals first and foremost.
Classic example Mad Jens and Almunia they were not mates or close but Mad Jens pushed him to be a better keeper, now he’s gone IMO Almunia has gone downhill a bit
Look at that quote, that tells you everything you need to know about William Gallas:
“I have to win something this year. I have to win something and Arsenal have to win something.”
Me – Me again – My club. In that order. It’s all he fucking cares about, don’t you lot realise? I don’t care how good a defender he is, he is a fucking self-centred user who is only interested in one thing and one thing alone and that’s himself. How Wenger ever saw fit to make this child-man CAPTAIN, responsible for the whole of his squad, is absolutely beyond me.
Someone should just thump Wenger in the ear or poke him in the eye. Maybe then he will change, doubt it tho.
Cana on the other hand is unlikely to leave L’OM until the summer. I believe he would be too costly for Arsene in January but anything can happen in football these days.
Bring back Flamini!!!!
THIS GALLAS THINGY IS NOT WORTH DEBATING GUYS
Franchise, agreed on cana. Where are OM in the league? 2nd the last time i checked. Lyon are obviously going to win it again but who in their right mind would leave the 2nd best french team (and he is captain there) to join the 4th best team in England.
Wenger is thinking of NOT getting compensation for Walcott?
Why would you do that?
Also does anyone know if Arsenal pick up insurance money for Rosicky and Eduardo?
What ever has happened goes on everday at football club and most places of work.
It’s just most clubs are too proffesional to let it leak out.
Wenger for next uefa president anyone. That would bod well for us.
At the time Arsene made Gallas his captain you guys werent complaining were u? he looked the obvious choice to me.
Wenger had decided that Gilberto wasnt a first teamer anymore
Toure didnt lok like captain material then still doesnt
Lehmann wasnt offered a new deal
Who would you have given the armband too then???????
yeah its not worth debating just get rid of the cunt!
Wenger should have rotated the armband until someone stood out as the obvious choice. Franchise, did you know that the summer AW gave Gallas the armband that Gallas wanted to go. But to keep him here and happy Wenger just thought “if he doesnt want to be here i’ll just give him the captaincy then he will go along with this piece of shit experiment.”
After what Gallas said about Arsenals kids, 2 years ago he was never going to get there respect as captain.
At the time I thought it should have gone to Kolo
When a team like Arsenal is not doing well it is expected that team spirit and morale would be at the lowest. Its not uncommon. its happened at Barca, Madrid, ManU to name a few. If we start scoring goals and winning matches all these unnecessary ‘distractions’ would evaporate
Stu the stories about Gallas wanting to leave how true were they? I dont really believe it
How does kolo not look like captain material???? i havent seen him smoking or sitting down in the middle of the pitch crying yet.
Agreed at the time wenger appointed him it looked an obvious decision but that was then and this is now. As far as im concerned he is not fit to be our captain. i dont care if there is no obvious alternative but i personally think players dont give a fuck about him and are not motivated to play for him
He has opened his big fat gob every season since he has been here and just needs to shut up!!!!!!!!!!
when gallas critises our young players that is like 90% of our team so i wouldnt be surprised if everyone hates him!
i’m just shocked what this fucking cnut is saying how come you talk about your internal problems on the media this is crazy. I say to the le boss pls let this old cow be on the sub’s bench thats what he deserves i’m just wow
the only reason we beat manc scum was because it was the manc scum and our players motivated themselves for that game as who doesnt want to beat the manc scum eh?
I’d have given it to Eboue or Song or Justin Hoyte over Gallas, given his track record. We trust the manager to make the right choice, we expect him to have analysed the guy’s character and suitability for the role. Every Chelsea fan out there was cheering that they got rid of Gallas, they kept saying what a cunt he was and how he was a troublemaker, well it looks like they weren’t kidding. We thought ‘well Wenger must see something good about him’ – looks like Gallas sold the boss a dummy as well as us.
The way a team plays is not solely down to the player selection, or the training methods, or the technical ability. Like in any group setting, the overall spirit and atmosphere plays a massive massive part in the success or failure of the team. You can say ‘bollocks they earn so much money they should make themselves play well, team spirit is irrelevant’ – that is just naive. You try motivating yourself when your immediate superior at work is a total self-seeking cunt, you can soldier on but you will never be as good as you would be with a better man in that job above you, someone who motivates you and encourages good performance from the team.
Due to his comments and behaviour Gallas will split the team in two; judging by the way we are performing, he has already managed to do it.
Franchise, I dont know how much truth there are in the stories but i kind of believe them given Gallas’ temperment and Wengers loyalty towards certian players. I believe it because i want to. Make your own mind up tho.
Wenger seems to think he can buy the “bad boys” and tame them.
Adebayor, RVP and Gallas all had history before they joined Arsenal.
Now things have gone a bit wrong they seem to be showing there true colours again..
this a-whoel is not his first time to critic the boys he had done it before this season . I think this is the time to BOOOOOOO him good
Kenny then they have not got their priorities straight. Gallas is not Arsenal why should they be motivated to play for him? They should be motivated to play for the club. Proud to wear the badge. These are some of the problems we face because we dont have enough English players in the team. FACT. I’m not English myself for those that might think i’m trying to stir smtin up here. But if u look around the league the most of passion players are English. They understand what the fans want, what the league is all about. Especially when they play for the top teams in the land
It seems that Wenger has grown a tendancy to but troublesome players lately. Ade has refused to get on a plane for his country and was involved in a strike threat because they werent getting enough money to PLAY in the WORLD CUP. He nutted Bendtner, and had loads of problems at Monacho.
Diarra was a cunt who after only about 10 games into the season wanted to go because he wasnt getting on instead of Cesc and Flamini. What a load of bollocks.
And Gallas, causing so much trouble here on a regular basis and allegendy threatened to score an own goal at Chelseas if he wasnt sold because he was starting at LB. We have too many big headed twats coming in.
What was his track record Seb?
Damn you Avenell, you beat me too it but mine was more elaborate, muahahaha!!
Yeah but who want’s a team of pussy cats!!!!!
When we had Georgey G we used to kick people off the park!
Don’t tame the bad boys, just get them to use their agression positively
Gallas hardly caused trouble during his days at Chelsea. A lot of chelsea fans were gutted when he left. The only allegations against him i can remember was when Mourinho or Kenyon said that he threatened to score an own goal if chelsea dont let him to move. I didnt believe it at that time i still dont.
Gallas even had his squad no removed at Chelsea!!
I forgot about “Im not playing in the carling cup” Diarra..
I think Bad Boys is in relation to their attitude, not their game play.
yeah in theory they should be playing for Arsenal but in reality it doesnt happen like that. its usually money. If Frank Lampard was playing only for chelsea he wouldnt of demanded his new contract was to be 130,000 a week would it….. i bet if you told Lampard, Gerrard, rooney etc etc that they had to take a wage cut they would all be off to barca and real madrid so dont give me the “they are playing for the club shite”
“Once a blue always a blue” Rooney is loyal to Man U..
The issue around handing the armband to Gallas is quite simple, he’s the best of a fucking bad bunch. Wenger’s managed to offload anyone of drive and experience from the squad……….
Just to change the topic slightly, lets talk numbers. The way our squad is munbers is rif=diculas. Nothing traditional going on.
Can you imagine Bergkamp at CB, or Lee Dixon LM or Second striker? IMO a team should line up like this:
1- GK
2- rb
3- lb
4- cm
5- cb
6- cb
7- winger (even thought there are no wingers at the club)
8- cm
9- striker
10- striker
11- winger.
Any dis-agreements? No!
U guys are being too sensitive about this issue. Adebayor bad boy? Comon Avenell. Did he kill sum1? Was this an issue when we were winning games for fun last season. If we blame Gallas for our title collapse last season who do we blame for the collapse in 2004/05 season? Or in 2002/03 season (we needed to beat bolton) How about in 1998/99 and the numerous other times we lost the league. Who were the bad eggs?
It’s all out there Franchise, problems with his manager at Marseille, well documented spats at Chelsea not being happy about his role in the team, teammates not getting along with him, and our own experience of him.
yes he can defend well when given the right partner, I have stood up for him as a defender. But how could AW give this timebomb the captaincy? It was just a big big mistake, and as has been said it’s another example of Wenger trying to heal the sick (mentally in this case) but failing.
Winning is like being drunk (in a wierd way).
Nobody ever looks aroung when things are going well(good times), its only when the hangover(bad times) kicks in and everyone can see the mess thats around them,.
Everyone seems to be doing a ‘Gallas’….
Why did Gallas have his no. removed at Chelsea Avenell? If you dont know its cos Chelsea agreed with Ballack that he would keep his no. he used at Bayern which was one of the conditions they had to meet if he was going to sign. That was total disrespect for a player that had helped the club win two league titles. Stop trying to make ppl look worse than they are. We wldnt have been having this debate if we were on top of the Prem.
Victory Through Harmony people!!!
When things are going wrong, you need to come together as a team and it isn’t going to help if the leader of the team continues to slag you off to the newspapers.
Some of these players have been toghether for 5 years and when some prick from Chelsea says “if we don’t win anything this year I’m off” and that’s after he spent half the year injured I know what I would think of him!!
Franchise why aren’t we top of the premiership? Why do our first team look like frightened rabbits and yet the CC team play with sheer joy of the game? Why is what Gallas described in our dressing room, happening in the first place? The captain sets the tone for the dressing room. And you wonder why people are falling out and bitching at each other… it’s so fucking obvious.
People play CM or FM so much they forget that a team is a group of people who affect each other’s performances mentally and emotionally by whether they get on together or not. What is the point of talking about getting Zapata or Mertesacker or Cana or Villa or Silva or anyone else when they will just be walking into a shit dressing room and will end up feeling as shit as the rest of our team and playing as shit as they are?
Root and branch analysis – cut out the problems at the heart of the team, then start thinking about reinforcing.
If Cesc got the captaincy instead we would have still won f*ck all last season. Captaincy is not our problem end of. You can moan about it all day it doesnt change a thing. “How could Arsene give this timebomb the captaincy?” its cos the timebomb was the obvious selection. The media have succeeded to convince u that gallas is a worst captain u wld ever see in the history of football. Its bollocks. When Terry cries its passion, when Gallas does its disgraceful, When Gerrard dives its ok, when Drogba does its disgraceful. Get ur own opinion guys. Dont be brainwashed
Franchise..
After the 2006 FIFA World Cup, Gallas refused to turn up at Chelsea’s pre-season American tour, [2] citing tiredness after the tournament. Upon assigning squad numbers the club gave new arrival Michael Ballack Gallas’ number 13 shirt as a punishment for not turning up, an indication that his future at Stamford Bridge was in serious doubt.
Dressing room is where people get changed Seb. Ashley Cole complained about the cliques in our dressing room in his autobiography that was the team that went the whole season unbeaten. Edmundo and Romario combined well when playing together but they couldnt stand themselves as people.
Captaincy is not our problem but a lack of Leadership is!!!
And yes I know Lehmann and Almunia hated each other, correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t seem to recall them playing together… You need a good proportion of the team getting on to a reasonable degree. 2002/4 – Paddy (captain) Thierry Bobby Sol Lauren Gilberto Edu Kolo Dennis Freddie, I can’t envisage there being any problems between that lot, Cashley and Jens might have been pains in the arse, but nothing other than that. A captain you could respect as well. Funny that.
I think we can a bit harsh on Gallas. I don’t think his Chelsea history has helped endure him to Gooners.
Granted, there are times I wish that he kept his mouth shut but lets be honest there is no-one else in this squad who could replace him as skipper.
Last season when we were top, everyone was raving about Gallas being a winner and how his winning mentality is helping Arsenal.
Lets face it, he is a winner. Look at his medals, this current Arsenal squad lack winners. That needs to change.
Sign a winner who will help Arsenal, someone like Alonso. When we have the winning mentality watch the difference.
Say what you like about Flamini, but one things for certain, we miss his winning attitude. The boy hated to lose.
Yes Gallas can piss you off, I always defend him because I feel despite his sometimes petulant outbursts he is desperate to win trophies.
Haven’t we moaned over the last few seasons? Yes we have but that doesn’t make us mugs does it? We are the same, desperate for trophies.
Oh and I agree cut out the root cause,
My money is on it being RVP and Gallas.
Toure out for Citeh and Eboue, so who will play on the right.
I would go for Silvestre at RB, and Ramsey ahead of him, with Djourou at Cb with Gallas.
The injuries are coming thick and fast, and dont forget mid week we need to win our CL game to qualify.
Avenell that is Chelsea propaganda. How coincidental that Ballack inherited the number that was taken off Gallas and the no happened to be the same that Ballack used at Bayern and the national team. The same number tied to his merchandise deals. If Gallas’ future was in doubt at Chelsea why was the club reluctant in selling him. Mourinho confessed with his own lips that he didnt want Gallas to leave but Arsene asked for him as a make weight in the Cole deal. FACT
Captaincy issues wldnt make Denilson a world class DM over night neither wld it make Theo a better link up player…….
The fact that you are quoting Cashley to prove that the dressing room doesn’t matter says it all really. If you don’t think psychology has any bearing on team performance, then you carry on living in the dark ages mate, but mark my words, the day William Gallas leaves this club – or is stripped of the captaincy – will be the day we start to get back on track.
If he had come into a team like the Invincibles, he probably would have done alright, as he would have been surrounded by winners and would have got the success he craves. But putting someone like him into a team that needed direction and leadership – fucking disaster. Saying we wouldn’t be talking about this if we were top, well we aren’t are we, and when we were it was clearly in spite of the shit going on. I will eat fuck or kill anything you care to name if we win the title with Gallas as captain.
And you can call it being brainwashed by the media or actually saying what I, we, Chelsea fans, Marseille fans, have all seen with our own eyes and heard with our own ears. It doesn’t change anything.
To be honest having watched Gallas’s behavour at Arsenal, I beleive Chelsea’s side of the story.
Missed some of the earlier posts but this Gallas outburst happened at half time against the Spurs.For the life of me i find the timing of his statement totally irresponsible.
With regards to an earlier comment about the arrogance or attitude of some of our players,no one mentioned Djorou.In the euros he wasn’t picked for switzerland’s first 2 games and refused to play in their final game.
To me it is obvious Wenger has lost the respect by some of the players for what reason isn’t exactly clear,but I would guess that some major signings were expected in the summer that didn’t happen either because Wenger lied or the money wasn’t there.This last minute bid to sign Alonso or whoever to me was bullshit.
Gerrard comes out and slates Walcott’s inclusion in the world cup squad. Every1 is like yeah yeah yeah hes right. Gallas comes out and says Walcott needs to add the element of surprise to his game. The press turn around and say Gallas is smiting young Walcotts progress by criticizing him.
I want u to list those things that chelsea and Marseille fans have been saying Seb. Its bollocks Seb even Joey Barton gets better press than Gallas
The difference is Gerrard isn’t Theo’s captain, Gallas is and he should say it to his face not in public..
Rio kicks a steward against Chelsea. We hear nothing about it on SSN after two days. Gallas is pictured with a cig everyone is on his neck like he is affiliated to Al Kaida
Hey Keyser if you are there
You said we only debate bad news and why dont we talk about the good. I said there was no good new
Well now there is some genuine really good news so am happy to talk about it
Eduardo is a week away from returning to full training. And that is fucking great news. Welcome back Dudu
We are not morbid negative zombies after all
The only 2 players who fit the age bracket that gallas refers to are RVP and Eboue.
Avenell Interview was like
Interviewer: Gallas what do you think about Theo
Gallas: He is a very good player, he is improving and I think he needs to be less predicatable
What was wrong with that.
If u are not getting my point u wld never get it. The Guy is being blamed for all our problems. At a certain point he deserves the right to defend himself.
Gallas does get a rough time, but I personally am just not that much of a fan of his.
I think he goes missing as a leader in some games, but I dont think it is helped by a vice captain in the midfield. That is what we really miss from PV4, Gilberto and Flamini’s game. We have too many reserved quiet & almost shy players. And I think that is always a hard trait to find in youth. Some people dont realise they are leaders till later in their careers.
Kelsey, My money is on RVP,
I dont think Eboue is like that, although he is a shit midfielder he is genuinely a nice bloke and a fucking good right back to boot…..RVP is a moody person……But then I dont rate him either
I’m not blaming him for all our problems, I just wish he played for another club..
I agree with you on that Franchise,
When you are down you are down, and the press will always jump on the bandwagon and choose choice comments from an interview and often don’t even print the question that got the answer. Thats why I pay little attention to most of them.
I still am not Gallas’s biggest fan but never have been
I think the posts sum it up,
He is just not a very likeable captain.
Patthegooner – It took a day for you to find that ? It’s going to take a lot more convincing than that, but I didn’t say what you thought I said.
I said why are we soo quick to believe the bad news as opposed to the good we should apply the same reasoning to both.
Good news on Eduardo eh, can’t wait to see him turn out for the reserves should get a good reception.
Avenell ask yourself if Chelsea would have taken Gallas’ no from him if it was #32?
Yes gallas is clearly past his best but if the 25 year old he’s talking about is van persie then I completely agree with him
Hi Pat,if it is RVP who showed his petulance yet again at stoke by a self inflicted red card,why is wenger in negotiatiions with him for a pay rise to 80k a week,considering he is also injury prone as well.
Took me half the day to read through the posts LoL, I don’t agree with Gallas airing out this sort of incident in the public, but it’ll mean fuck all if we go and improve from the position we’re in.
People need to read the whole interview it isn’t half as bad as it’s being made out, we weren’t great because of one person or someones leadership in previous years it’s because we were a great team.
It doesn’t matter who’s in charge unless you truly need someone to guide you and even then it’s not the be all and end all.
We need to function well as a team, Vieira was a good captain, didn’t stop Lauren from steaming through Ronaldo and he didn’t need to look for any leadership, if you have to it in you it will show and if not you can learn.
I don’t think we’ve got major problems in any specific area, maybe midfield but we have got a few smaller problems that just add up together.
If everyone steps it up a little it’ll go a lot further than trying to work specifically on any one problem.
But Gallas gave them them the excuse, He refused to turn up and play for them.
He has a bad attitude, it’s for all to see.
He is not a likeable captain cos every where we turn the media makes him tout to be a villain. If chelsea loose or ManU no one questions Terry’s or Ferdi’s leadership skills. Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez, Carrick, etc look after themselves on the pitch. They are not babysitted by Ferdinand. The manager tells them what to do and they go out and do it. Thats what we want at Arsenal. 11 leaders on the pitch. If you talk about leading by example Gallas’ goals stands out in the league.
*out
You got that story from Wikipedia. Read what PFA Chief Exac and Ranieri had to say. Dont just show what favours your side of the story.
After the 2006 FIFA World Cup, Gallas refused to turn up at Chelsea’s pre-season American tour, [2] citing tiredness after the tournament. Upon assigning squad numbers the club gave new arrival Michael Ballack Gallas’ number 13 shirt as a punishment for not turning up, an indication that his future at Stamford Bridge was in serious doubt. His reception at the club’s membership day at Stamford Bridge was mixed, with sections of fans clapping him while some fans booed and other remained unmoved.
Despite reported links with several clubs around Europe, a move out of England looked unlikely. The 2006 Serie A scandal stopped any interest from Juventus or A.C. Milan, and the only club to express an interest was Arsenal. In a move which further crowded the ranks of defenders at Stamford Bridge, Chelsea signed Dutch defender Khalid Boulahrouz (though it should be noted that Boularouz had already been loaned out away from Chelsea by the summer of 2007).
On 1 September 2006, Gallas transferred to Arsenal as part of a deal that took Ashley Cole to Chelsea[3] and Arsenal also received the sum of £5 million. The press reported that José Mourinho was furious Gallas had been allowed to move to their rivals and that the Cole-Gallas swap deal had been forced through by Chelsea executive Peter Kenyon. After the transfer, Chelsea issued a statement that Gallas threatened to deliberately score own goals if he was not allowed to leave Chelsea.[4] Gallas rejected Chelsea’s claims and accused the West Londoners of lacking class and ‘hiding behind false accusations’.[5] Claudio Ranieri, the former Chelsea manager who signed Gallas from Marseille said of the allegations; “I cannot believe these stories. It is absolutely incredible. I signed William and he was always a good professional on the pitch. Of course, I don’t know what has happened in the last two years.” However, it should be noted that Gallas frequently voiced his distaste both for the club, and the position he was playing there in the weeks prior to his move, at one point vowing that he would never again play for Chelsea whatever the circumstances. Among the Chelsea faithful Gallas’s acrimonious departure turned him almost instantly from a cult hero into an object of betrayal and hatred. PFA chief executive Gordon Taylor declared that the whole episode has left a “bad taste in the mouth” and that Chelsea’s statement should be taken “with a large pinch of salt.”
Too many people, including the media are making Gallas a scapegoat for our failures this year. No one player is bigger than Arsenal – just like no one player is completely responsible for the recent poor performances from the team. There are a number of issues going on within the club that need to be resolved and i say this in no uncertain terms – gallas is NOT one of them. We always look to point a finger when things are going wrong, it seems. This is not, and never has been – and never will be – a way to progress and move forward. Franchise is right in that the captains of MUFC, CFC and LFC never come in for criticism when they lose or are outplayed – so why should we follow the media and jump on the ‘it’s Gallas’ fault’ bandwagon??
It’s not his fault. Let’s take a look at the root of the problem, and IMO, that begins with the board……
Patthegooner…nice point, its great news, welcome back Eduardo!! Come on!!!
Hey Keyser
It is really good news and very welcome in the current climate. I think his reception will bring grown men to tears when he comes on a sub in the near future.
I just hope people dont expect too much of him. As expected he took a while to get going but fuck he has a clinical boot on him. I expect it will take a similar time and couple of rough challenges to get him back to his best and then hopefully he can have a successful future at the club.
Eduardo and Vela are actually the only 1st team Strikers I actually like as players. I liked pre-summer but now he is another one I would rather was elsewhere. I think we could sell RVP and Ade and bring in a super striker and we would be in a better position.
RvP scored 1 and provided 3 assists in that game. Maybe he had a right to insult the defenders (who conceded 4) who were accusing him of whatever it was.
Before Gallas came, the defence looked solid:
Senderos and Toure went without conceding for a record 10 games in the CL. A record.
Senderos and Djourou had a good world cup. Conceded the fewest goals in the group stage.
Djourou and Toure looked promising when they played together.
-> 3 decent partnerships and a promising future. Mutual respect all round.
Since Gallas arrived:
Gallas and Senderos – disastrous, Gallas didn’t figure out that Senderos needed help tidying up.
Gallas and Toure – not enough height.
Gallas and Djourou – AW doesn’t see this as an option for some reason.
-> The only partner he can play with is Silvestre, probably because he has more medals than him and Gallas respects that. Gallas looks like a good defender because he defends as an individual, not a team player.
So now Senderos has been broken by Gallas, Toure has been broken by Gallas and Clichy looks like he is next up. And he can whinge and whine and smoke cigarettes and publicly humiliate his teammates and fans aren’t suppose to notice.
If RvP gets driven out of the club by the viral plague that is Gallas, then something is seriously wrong in Dodge.
Michael P how can you say that in no uncertain terms gallas is not one of them.Are you the same person who said there was an extraordinary meeting on sunday when it was stated that 3 experienced internationals would be bought in january.
if you are then you seem to be dangling the bait without actually saying anything.if it is not you,then i apologise.
Just search Google “Gallas refused to tour” it was easiest to paste Wiki that’s all.
noone needs the media to make any inference about Gallas – the very fact he is coming out with things like he has today is proof of his character and chief motivation. I didn’t read anything in those articles apart from the words attributed to Gallas, and yes he says all the things about bravery and warriors and stuff, but anyone with an ounce of nous can read between the lines, and it’s the same things every time with him. It comes down to what is best for him, not for Arsenal. That, in my book, is not the behaviour of a leader of men.
Here you have it in black and white, things that no captain of any other club would say about their own players, and yet people are jumping to his defence? I have to say I am gobsmacked. But I’m going to leave it there because it’s getting us nowhere.
Anyone want to talk about Toure being out?
I actually appreciate Gallas’s honesty in all of this. we often debated on here that there must be problems in the dressing room and so it has proved.
I still dont like him though
Eduardo’s first match will be mid decemer against spurs or pompey reserves and they are trying to arrange another behind closed doors at the emirates.i read that yesterday on one of the arsenal sites,may have been the official site.
Toure is out!!!!!
You are fucking Joking, who is going to play RB? Sagna, Eboue, and Toure out.
At Djorou will now surely get a game, it will have to be Silvestre to RB. Djourou and Gallas CB and Clichy RB
RM Ramsey, Denilson Diaby CM and Nasri RM
Ade and Vela upfront
I did not renew my membership in protest so would not see him at the Emirates
but for Eduardo I will travel down to the reserve game to see him.
i bet wengers team will be:
Almunia
Djourou Silvestre Gallas Clichy
Nasri Song Denilson Diaby
RVP Ade
not enough creativity in central midfield for me. leave song on bench and bring Diaby central, then Ramsey might get a game, I hope he does. Wilshere might get a sub appearance.
LoL Toure is a major doubt, not a good thing but there’s still some hope.
Seb – read between the lines ? I personally think it’s all a very cunning plan in the guise of Baldrick then to rouse the teams morale, I havent worked out why but I’m banking on Gallas being sduper intellgent in doing so.
I would agree with that Keyser but he has pretty much named the player that he has a problem with
Pat, I mentioned it at 3:53.
No one was interested, only bitching about Gallas. (poor)
Toure out is a big blow
As Eboue, Sagna, Walcott and Rosicky are all out.
Song was awful at RB so he wont play there.
We have lost our 1st choice right side combination, and now our second choice as well.
Which other team gets that kind of luck?
Silvestre and Ramsey for me.
There aren’t many super strikers out there and by that I mean Henry like, that can change games completely on their head.
No one player will make that much of a difference, if we’ve still got the problems with inconsistentcy, we’ve got a great mix with our strikers, Adebayor and Eduardo were linking up well before he got injured, him and Van Persie could play aswell, we just need to sort out the midfield.
Give Gavin Hoyte a go at RB he looked okay in the cc with Song next to hm!
PattheGooner – I was only joking kind of, we’re reading too much into it, unless Wenger comes out and says something completely different, everyone has problems within their team I don’t agree with Gallas saying anything out in public but it’s out there now.
We’ve still got the same problems and we’re going to have to fix them regardless.
Good news: Theo damaged his OTHER shoulder. So it’s not the case of weakening an already weak structure He has (probably) too flexible shoulder joints which are great for swimming but no good for constant collisions and falls! Hopefully the surgery on this one should strengthen this problem so he shouldn’t suffer again.
My view on the Gallas situation is that there are better captains out there but he’s probably the best we’ve got at the moment. He is shouldering Arsene’s decisions as our weakness in midfield/defence has been there for far too long. Last year we struggled through until Sagna, our exceptional new RB was injured and his absence cost us dearly but the problems against deadball situations were there.
AW despite promises to buy not only didn’t back that up but didn’t even replace the ones that left especially Flamini who used to snuff out some of the problems in ‘open’ play. Without his defensive capability, his leadership and winning mentality in midfield we are definitely weaker.
So if Willie occasionally loses his rag or seeks support elsewhere I’ll not blame him for his frustration. As somebody said above – we all get frustrated at the performances – imagine how you’d feel if you were blamed all the time when being left exposed half the time. It’s almost as bad as being a goalie with no defence in front of you!!!!!
Vela doesn’t normally play after travelling to play for Mexico!
Gavin Hoyte is a CB tho. And putting him up against Robinho wouldnt be a good idea. Looks like JD is finally going to play but unfortunately it will have to be at RB.
Shouldn’t Galls lpay RB as he has good experience in the FB position with Chelsea andin is first season with us. And he finished the game (for those that didn’t stay that long) at RB against Villa
JD and The cat should then play CB.
That way we can have utter faith in the RB. I like JD but he’s no RB.
kelsey…i revealed as much info as knew a couple of days ago, should i apologise for you missing it??
Also, I say Gallas is not to blame because he is ONE of ELEVEN players on the pitch.
Like no one player is bigger than the club, you cant hold one player accountable for evrything, is what i am saying.
Has wenger brought in sufficient cover for our losses over the summer, this discussion wouldnt even be happening.
How can we hold Gallas responsible for where we are?
Was the Invincibles all down to PV4?> No, it was down to the 11 players that made up the TEAM.
Stu, I thought being just about the quickest player at our club, Hoyte would be the best player against Robinho.
Yeah Hoyte looks bigger and stronger than his brother aswell, the defence handled Wigan well that day and he didn’t really put a foot wrong and was good in the challenge aswell.
G.Hoyte gets my vote too. .has played very well this season so far.
Gavin Hoyte
Brother of Middlesbrough right-back Justin, the defender shares his pace and versatility. Although he prefers to be positioned at centre-back, Hoyte can play across the back four. The England youth international was captain of Arsenal’s under-18 side in 2006-07, and has also captained the reserves on several occasions. Officially the fastest player at Arsenal, after speed tests last year.
Statto!!
Bored….
His pace would be very important but given that he would be out of position against one of the trickiest players in the league could be disastrous for his confidence.
I suppose given his defensive mindset then he probably stay back instead of trying to join the attack leaving Robinho unmarked. Wilshere is going to have to start now, Garrido isn’t that good so he could be exploited.
In terms of Gallas’ coded revelations about the trouble-maker during the Spurs match, it’s definitely RVP, because he’s the only 25 year old playing in the first half. Eboue came on in the 75th.
If it’s true I’m not at all surprised, though RVP has to be one of our most inspiring and threatening players, so I couldn’t give a damn. Anything to rouse a little PASSION from the others!
Is Eboue definately out for Saturday?
this would be my team v man city
alumina
gallas silvestre djourou clichy
song
ramsey diaby denilson nasri
van persie
Adebayor and Vela are coming back from long trips so i wouldn’t start them. I definitely want to see more of Vela. He is going to be an unbelievable player. I think Arsenal will win 2-1
avnell
Gavin hoyte is faster than Theo? or Gibbs?
gallas is only trying to deflect attention from himself. Its pretty obvious that he hasn’t got what it takes to be captain
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=594433&sec=england&cc=5901
Im going with RVP or Ade. RVP is class, but he seems like one of those lads who will complain everytime the ball isn’t right by him.
Same with Ade. Lad used to be a great team player but now he acts like everytime he gets the ball he can score.
Btw I was wondering, how did you actually find out that Wenger reads this blog?
Do you know despite the pain, I actually think we will win at Man City.
They dont play the roughty toughty game and I think it will be a case of scoring one more than them.
They are dangerous but so are we when allowed to attack.
The Game should suit Nasri as well and he will be important
I agree Pat.
In fact I think we will get 4-6 points in our games against Citeh and Chelski
6 points….and we are winning something…
I have no doubt liverfool will falter…its the chavs that needs to be stopd
I would be over the moon with 4 points from those two games, but to be honest I think we could be in for a bit of a hiding at Chelsea.
Definately win at City though.
Do you think we could sign Appiah by Saturday
David .. Hoyte’s mum and dad were both athletes..
I read it here..
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/nov/13/arsenal-player-profiles-football-carling-cup.
Sorry I had to print a Tshirt! Got held up..
we all know that gallas is talking about fabregas its so obvious
Testing
Your avatar has been spotted London, well done!!!
Nice one London!
Sorry guys, there were a bunch of you in moderation, I hope you’re still around, welcome.
So do you think you get a Job at Arsenal Moderating Players comments as well Geoff?
GALLAS NEEDS MODERATING….OUT THE DOOR.
Pedro:
Thanks for helping put me in touch with a happy dad & his boy for the city tickets.
That would be some job Pat!
Hellooooooo People
Theo out for 3 months Wenger must be pissed, i think what the Post says is good food for thought as to be honest i didnt think of it like that so anything is possible.
Sorry Geoff …. but you’re way too optimistic about winning the league …. to have any chance of that we need Ade, Bendtner, Song and Eboue all sidelined for a very long time …and then Wenger may start to think about proper replacements. Until then we’re mid- table finishers with maybe the Carling Cup. As for 4th spot, that’s just a joke and losing to Villa last week proved it.
i would also just like to point out SOUTH WEST TRAINS ARE SHIT!
evening all.. toure is out too!!!!
wake up grovers!!!!
is gallas talking about RVP?
what the fuck?
this is pretty big isnt it?
Chipo
what are u talking about mate?? fill me in
hang on ill copy and paste the story
Arsenal captain William Gallas has questioned the ability of his team-mates to meet the demands required to challenge for the Premier League title, and has revealed the rifts in the dressing-room that are threatening to derail Arsenal’s season.
“We have to understand that to be champions, you have to play big matches every weekend and fight,” Gallas said. “We are coming up against teams who are not scared to play football against us, who are not scared to take us on at our place, and this is becoming dangerous for Arsenal.”
“We are not brave enough in battle. I think we need to be soldiers. We have to be warriors. There are teams who can do it well against us, and we have to be able to face up to these attacks. That is how they will forge their character, and how they will get experience. Even though they’ve played a certain number of matches, they’re still young and still learning.”
Gallas, who was widely criticised for his actions last season when he threw a tantrum on the pitch after Arsenal conceded a last-minute penalty at Birmingham, said that incident, and the fact that he is captain, means he is now bearing the brunt of the criticism the side is receiving, even though he believes there are others in the squad who are more culpable.
“When, as captain, some players come up to you and talk to you about a player … complaining about him … and then during the match you speak to this player and the player in question insults us, there comes a time where we can no longer comprehend how this can happen.
“I am trying to defend myself a bit without giving names. Otherwise I’m taking it all [the blame]. It’s very frustrating,” he said. “I’m 31, the player is six years younger than me.”
The Frenchman revealed that frictions in the dressing-room are spilling over on to the pitch, and that he was required to step in and solve a dispute at half-time during the recent 4-4 draw with Tottenham. “There was a problem at half-time,” Gallas said. “The only thing that I could say was ‘Guys, we resolve these problems after the match, not at half-time.’”
Gallas claims he is desperate to win silverware this season, and that despite the four defeats Arsenal have already suffered this season, they can challenge for the Premier League title.
“I have to win something this year. I have to win something, Arsenal has to win something,” Gallas said. “Four defeats is a lot, but it’s a long season. I think it will be very tight this year and we will have to hope that Chelsea draw a few games and have a few defeats.”
Chipo
well his right in a way. with some of the things he says. but dont forget the media loves twisting everything people say.
lets face it. we Dont play like warriors.
but most of the Quotes are from last season i must say. nothing new.
Gallas is sounding like a parrot of wenger.We are on a run of one win in four,more and more injuries,and he comes out with all this crap now,his timing is impeccable.
He has repeateded shown his is no captain or to be more precise leader,and he’s another one who will be off in the summer.
Also heard our youngsters keeper has broken both his hands,poor kid.
Remember the Captain is the right Arm of the manager, what ever Gallas is saying theres a Wiff of Wenger in there,
It is clear that gallas cannot handle the pressure of being a captain… it is also clear that he does not have the respect of his team mates. But a lot of players were complaining about another player? who the hell is that? RVP? how old is ade?
yes thats right players was arguing about another players mistakes. the blame was being thrown about in the dressing room.
I think its mad how Gooners are so spilt on Gallas.
Raif,
How the little ‘un pal?
RVP is the only 25 yr old, must be him
Gallas needs 2 be striped it’s a long time coming would a captain air out dirty-laundry? No but Gallas would. A sick part of me doesn’t want Arsenal 2 win anything I just don’t want 2 see this clown be the first 2 lift a trophy.
i like gallas but i dont think he is captain material,but in our squad who is?? this whole van persie situation was brewing after he told thierry to fuck off during the charlton game,robin is just not a team player,his arrogance is too high for a man who has achieved fuck all
i dont think robin is the most liked man in football and i believe there could be good reason for this,wherever he has been there have been problems, when your gettin punched in the face by one of your own fans while on international duty signing autographs says it all
and he is signing a new contract!!!! for doing fuck all!! and getting red carded!!
This is so reveling
Gallas claims he is desperate to win silverware this season, and that despite the four defeats Arsenal have already suffered this season, they can challenge for the Premier League title.
“I have to win something this year. I have to win something, Arsenal has to win something,” Gallas said. “Four defeats is a lot, but it’s a long season. I think it will be very tight this year and we will have to hope that Chelsea draw a few games and have a few defeats.”
‘’I have to win something’’ I instead of we………what a selfish git.
Wrighty7
hi there mate.
the little one was doing good. but his now got jaundice Again!
were also trying to get him to take to the bottle. as he was been being fed though a tube.
Selfish git ? All of our players need that attitude if we’re going to get anywhere.
Not the part where they blurt it out to the press but the we need to win something attitude.
Couple of points from the last couple of hours of blogging
Firstly does anyone else find it strange that Wenger who was always a master of not only buying the players that can deliver on the pitch but were also likeable and not a pain off it. There are obviously problems in the camp, RVP and Gallas and what about Ade and Nic last season. It is not healthy and for me maybe we need more surgery than first thought.
Secondly I think Gooners are split on Gallas both as a player and more importantly as a Captain. And for me you are onto a loser straight away if your fans are not in debate of who should be captain but whether you actually rate him in the 1st place.
I bet that 99% of fans of Liverpool, Man Ure, Chavski and probably pretty much every other team in the premiership are fully behind the choice of Captain at their club
its ok being selfish when you play that kind of team game,but when you play the kind of intricate game only the furthest forward player should be selfish,an robin is usually waiting in the midfield to try score his best goal ever
robin has always done well,but whoever he has partnered never does well while robin is in the team (ade is living proof and thierry did not enjoy partnering robin)
Bergkamp I 100% agree and what annoys me even more are these VP fanboys calling him ‘’ a class act’’ just because he’s scored a few wonderful goals. Let me give U a low-down on VP he is an inconsistent goal-scorer, cant hold onto the ball, greedy, arrogant, petulant and lazy if that’s a class act then being classed as a class act doesn’t mean much does it?
the sooner we get back to ade & ed or ade & vela the sooner we can get back to hitting any type of ball forward,nice threaded,high ball,or crosses,we dont need a forward standing outside the area then killing people on the top tear when he does get the ball!
pat its cos they got Gerrard Terry and Ferdinand- English quality! we’ve just got a moody french lad haha
Raif,
The poor little mite, hope he gets better mate.
but I don’t think gallas said anything wrong though!!! maybe not something that should be out in the public… but still most of it spot on!!!
van persie is the most talented forward at arsenal,but being a scorer of great goals doesnt make you a great goal scorer, all the chances this season have fallen to van and not ade,van is too busy snatching free kicks off team mates and fixing his socks, he does nothing when we dont have possesion,and we saw what he cared when he ran into that keeper,i suggest he did that on purpose!
look at van,this is the player arsene had to drop against bolton because he was fasting, this is the man we want to lead our attack??
The thing with van Persie is he produces the unexpected, although you could argue that we don’t expect much from him in current form!
The key I think is how we use him. I think he doesn’t really suit 4-4-2.
Look at Holland, they use him on the right of the attack in a 4-3-3. It suits him.
not a very smart thing to do i would say when you are the only first choice striker fit and when we had manc the next week!!
we need an english centre half,clearly this complete defence communicating in french isnt earning respect from refs,they dont respect our captain!
wrighty,wenger usually plays forwards on the wing an wingers up front,weird stuff mate, but van misses too many chances too,he only scores beautys,like i said a scorer of great goals not a great goalscorer,id play him wide right like wiltord!
or i would sell him for a half decent offer!
Metal Gear / bergkamp
i have been saying it since last Season that ADE & ROBIN can not play well together FACT!
one out of the 2 needs to have a better partner playing along side him.
Maybe Robin and Nikki B can pull it off. or maybe ADE and Vela. who knows but ill like to see a mix in the strike force
robin cant play with no one,he can play wide,robin wont even play theo through when were attacking,he always overhits passes and sends him wide so that theo will have to pull the ball back an he can try score goal of the month!
robin would rather shoot on his right foot from the worst angle of the pitch than pull the ball back to ade,didnt anyone watch the hull game?
robin always has problems with fellow dutch men too,he is a weird guy,no one likes him but the whole fasting thing was the last straw for me!
Bergkamp,
Thats a good point about lack of respect from refs because we have hardly any English players.
gallas is no captain but at least he cares,the rest of the team are drained by last season still,when will kolo accept some responsibility as an experienced player and a senior,thats what i want to know
wrighty,im not even english,but i can tell you when the team are chattin away thinkin oh the oponants cant tell what were doin the refs are thinking foriegn cunts,these guys are from the sticks,they probably on the bnp list half of them,everyone knows that riley on saturday was anti foriegn,no one wants gallas grumblin half english in their face,we need a composed english man who demands respect,galls is not respected,only as a baby
it is what it is,john terry can have a word in the refs ear whenever he wants,gerrard can get a freekick whenever he wants,but gallas gets booked for askin refs the time, this is why we get a booking for every 5 fouls and even bolton average one yellow per every 8 fouls an denilson got booked for his first foul on saturday an barry in the 60th for his 9th foul,because refs no they can tell gallas to piss off if he wants a quiet word
raif there is truth in that but I don’t rate either of them. The only striker at the club who could walk into Man U the side is Eduardo the rest would be on the bench U couldn’t say that in that past with strikers like Hanry, Anelka, and Ian Wright these current strikers are either still learning there trade (Vela, Bendtner) or just overrated (VP, Adebayor).
Wrighty7
Thanks Fella. im sure he will pull though,
as for Robin his got bags of skill its just his attitude some times.
he plays best on the Right of a 3 man front line like he does for Holland. But Wenger has NEVER plaid him there. and probably never will.
as for him not playing THEO though when his got space to run onto. RvP is not the only one guilty of this. iv seen every player at arsenal fail to put Theo though.
its like they dont want to pass to him some times. i think VELA & RvP could be a dangerous partnership
Bergkamp what do U suggest should be done about this lack of respect then?
we need a strong english centre half or a respected player from withing the prem who has captains experience,and guys like kolo should be warned act your age or your out the door,they saying we should buy guys with experience but half the names listed dont even have a medal and kolo his medals are many!
Metal Gear
i see what ur saying. thats why im intrested into what wengers going to do when DUDU is fit and ready to play again. as to be Honest him and ADE was linking up really well last season before his injury. i would like to see that again when his fit
Metal Gear ,its a hard question,first of all we should stop communicating in french exclusively between the captain and his back four,i dont give a shyt if thats the easiest way,this is the english prem, and secondly we should start throwing our hands in the air instead of taking this shyt an then complaining about it 24 hours later,when vela was fouled an they went up the other end the captain should have said fuck respect an been up rileys ass like terry would,that would show the ref not to fuck about,riley is smiling at gallas
I do not players injured but this was the greatest new for a l ong time.
NOW WENGER WONT BE PRESSURIED TO PLAY THEO BECAUSE OF HIS PASSPORT………
YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE IT and all of you will b=probably vent your fury BUT WE WILL BE BETTER BECAUSE OF THIS.
no but raif its not that he hasnt played theo through,one of the most cultured left feet on the planet has played him through but pushed him wide intentionally!
how can one of the big four not be favoured by referees infront of 60thousand of their own fans,its down to lack of respect!
bergkamp
thats a worring thought indeed if thats true
no but its true raif,were the most booked team for incidents involving a player talking to the ref,i dunno the correct term,and we dont even surround refs
any truth in the news about gallas being stripped of captaincy?
if i was arsene wenger i would do what i said was unthinkable and play kolo at DM for a few games an put cesc in the oposition half like last season,see if that kind of answers whats wrong with the little great man,and see if that stops teams hittin us on the break wehn our defenders go missin up the pitch
they should send alex song on im a celebrity get me outof here
bergkamp
thats even a worse thought, them cunts at Chavski and Man Utd always surround the Ref. every single time. and fuck all happens. this Respect the Ref campaign is a JOKE
Bergkamp I definitely don’t agree about the language thing but I do agree with player’s should be up in Rileys face.
Raif that’s true they did link up well but trying 2 play a 4-4-2 should only be done once we get an established holding midfielder.
Bergkamp that’s quite an accusation but I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case V.Persie’s ego 2 a knock when Ade was given a pay-rise and he wasn’t and it should have stayed like that this chap has done nothing!!!!!!!!!!! It’s infuriating how they refused 2 up the pay-rise of Flamini but yet Ade and VP gets a financial face-lift.
bergkamp
he used to play there. i would Play Kolo in the middle without blinking. if he gets a little tired just stick on somone else simple.
also all my african mates say that the reason why wenger likes the african players is Bcos they spend most of therefootball careers playing anywere on the picth so there very versatile. Minus the striker
i honestly think theres truth in this.
think of all the postions Kolo has plaid in for us along with Ebue since they have been at arsenal. and any one else for that matter
well i would say that kolo isnt the most composed player with a ball at his feet,he hits the worst panic long balls ever and he starts running with the ball and cant stop to pass it but id see if this ups cescs game and does the team some good,that would surely let him know if spendin on a good dm would pay off,which im sure it would..raif
The team on saturday should be this:
Alumina
Gallas Slverstre Djourou Clichy
Nasri Denilson Toure Vela
RVP Ade
If Kolo plays in midfield, the ball will be like a hot potato and he will always try to hit it long to Ade and Ade will be offside even more than he is now..
raif its fact that the arsenal players way of thinking he shouldnt be tackled inspires hatred in people,especially wehn they start talking french
Please lets leave the team selection i cant bring my self to think of what Wenger will pick.
Metal Gear Toure is out, it was on here earlier.
avenell at least we would have the answers to a few questions because right now all im seeing is cesc detiriating before my eyes and i couldnt even tell you i think we will get a point this weekend ,our team goes missing at the back an robinho will love the space
sorry mate ade is out injured and rvp is suspended Metal Gear
If Toure was to play in midfield Fabregas would just drop deep and pick the ball off of him, like he did to Song he wouldn’t trust him..
2 players doing 1 players work..
cesc is detiriating big time. and im not suprised to be honest.
his being plaid with crap players in the middle. he needs someone who can do the donky work and free up Cesc to do what he does best. i see him come deeper and deeper to get the ball every time.
RVP is back and Ade played last week Bergkamp..
Fab is suspended.
wengers gonna pick ALMUNIA
sylvestre
DJOUROU
cliche
SONG
denilson
NASRI
diaby
RAMSEY
bendtner
VELA 4-5-1 with diaby behind bendtner
no robin has a 3 match ban and ade has a thigh strain,nothing to do with last week!
raif,no disrespect to denilson nor cesc,but last season we had a bentley and a hummer in our garage,this season the hummer is gone an we are using the bentley for doin the hummers job and we have now parked a ford mondeo in the bentleys place, wenger needs to sort this disrespect
I’ve just seen on “she wore a yellow ribbon” site that Gallas is to stripped of the arm-band.
i did see that,i didnt read the post mr wrighty,i dont know how much truth i could take from it
i have a friend in the arsenal camp,he said he knows nothing about it!
Van Persie’s back, what site is this ‘she wore a yellow ribbon’ ? Sorry never heard of it till now.
Its on Newnow, the story is in the last hour Keyser.
bergkamp
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..
i like the analogy
*i think im using the right word for that ?? lol
lol raif,i think it can be called an anology,or a french moment maybe
I thought Vpersie missed Man U, Wigan and Villa for his 3 match ban, I don’t know nothing about Ade..
i dont think the wigan game counts,maybe your right but i saw on tv it said ade is unavailable due to a thigh strain
avanell i think your right,well thats a good thing maybe van on the right wing!
No worries Bergkamp. just checked the Arse.com site nothing on Ade. and it looks to have been updated today.
But you may be right.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/injury-news
avanell i saw it on african telly,usually gives spot on news on the arsenal ,specially surrounding king ade
avanell i know cesc would drop deep to get the ball off him,but at least cesc wouldnt be chasing back an playin dm,thats reply to earlier regarding kolo in the mid for this emergency state were in
I said on here afew times now Bergkamp. it’s the players in front of Cesc that’s the problem. not who is beside him.
Cesc has no one to play ball with Walcott RVP and Theo don’t link the play, like Rosicky, Hleb and even Eboue last year.
Sagna was twice the player before Theo was in front of him.
Toure out!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ade is out? and VP how could I forget.
Metal gear … Why is RVP out now!!!!
the suspension init.
nah he’s served his suspension
manc wigan and villa… he’s back! all FA comps
3 match ban matches…. 1= Man U…. 2=Wigan….. 3= Villa..
Read the post from 9.30 pm
Avenell I’ll take your word forget the 9:30 post.
Metal Gear … you caused a discussion from 9.30 and you haven’t even read it have you?
Evening Grovers!
How are we all today?
Silly billy willy, if he wasn’t so silly he wouldn’t jabbering away to press willy nilly.
Double Gooner… that is fantastic that you hooked that guy up with tickets! He was pretty desperate for them! He sent me two e-mails… it’s nice that you have sorted a Gooner out and not lost any money. Great stuff!
Paulinho… what has he said?
I’ve been in meetings all day… so I know nothing!
Pedro
The truth IMO.
Usual stuff with regarding attitude etc but also revalations about arguments during spurs match and another incident regarding a 25 year old who showed him disrespect. RVP seems the prime suspect, or maybe Ade.
Avenell U mean 9:31 and know I cant be bothered 2 read all that shit.
Oh dear… how do you face your colleagues at training after you’ve bitched to the press?
He should be used to it by now.
Haha! I just read that Djemba Djemba featured ahead of Song… ringing endorsement of your skills or what!
Pedro lol that’s what I was thinking.
pedro
Arsenal have already fallen to four league defeats this season, against Fulham, Hull, Stoke and Aston Villa, leaving them nine points behind leaders Chelsea and Liverpool.
Gallas has shown his feelings on the pitch in recent months and now the French defender has spoken with passion about how the Gunners are failing to live up to expectations.
Speaking to the Associated Press, Gallas blasted: “We are not brave enough in battle.
“I think we need to be soldiers. To be champions, you have to play big matches every weekend and fight.”
“We are coming up against teams who are not scared to play football against us, who are not scared to take us on at our place, and this is becoming dangerous for Arsenal.
“We have to be warriors. That is how the team will forge their character and experience.”
The 31-year-old added: “There was a problem at half-time of the 4-4 draw with Tottenham,” he said. “The only thing that I could say at half-time was ‘guys, we resolve these problems after the match, not at halftime’.
“When as captain some players come up to you and talk to you about a player, complaining about him, and then during the match you speak to this player and the player in question insults us, there comes a time where we can no longer comprehend how this can happen.
“I am trying to defend myself a bit without giving names. Otherwise I’m taking it all (the blame). I’m 31, the player is six years younger than me.”
Billy no mates was surely a term coined by a current Arsenal player!
Would you not be tempted to take the piss out of his softly spoken lisp?
Oh dear Ethan… not again!
Too many selfish players in the dressing room.
I agree with what he is saying though…
Pedro… Djemba Djemba featured because Song is on a 3 match ban!!!
I agree thou !
at least someone it telling the fans like it is !
good on ya billy !
at least some real noises are coming out from the club !
he’s telling the school boys to get on with it !!!
fuck i know how he feels ! he’s like the school yard teacher on patrol it sounds like !
those cunts get paid way too much money even ade at 25 ! (6 years younger than him !)
to act unprofessional and lack focus !!!
Me too pedro ! i applaud it !!
someone needs too shake the fuckin tree !
wengers got no balls to do it !
gallas too the rescue !
It should all be done behind closed doors….
This should fire Man C up and make us a laughing stock!!
at least someone IS telling the fans like it is !
sorry lads just woke up
Don’t ruin my fun Avenell!
Ethan, I’m backing the Captain. Everyone is slating him over the comments… but I’d like to hear why we keep going to pieces.
Why pretend there is solidarity if there isn’t?
So much for team spirit Arsene!
He has just accrued a squad of pricks.
Sunday league teams have the same problems… too many players ego’s stop you playing as a team.
The invincibles all respected each other… this team doesn’t. Sometimes they play like they are advertising themselves.
It could make the offenders shut the fuck up too avenell ! and start playing football !
what have we got to lose avenell ? your only as good as your last game !?
I bet he would like to clothesline a few players behind closed doors Avenell.
mr avanell cesc is far too deep,often behind denilson,i think its not the player up top,our base is jelly,theres no platform for the players up top to perform on
Gallas is taking matters into his own hands ! so for me he is a captain .. a captain in crisis !
but ive got to say im a man after his own heart !!!
if you got something to say, spray it out !!!!! too much in house BS isnt getting us too far is it !?
and i can presume he is singling out ade ! @25?
i dont know anyone else who is 25 !? is it about nik ?? are those 2 still at it ???
i knew it … niks getting a run .. ade is still complaining like i lil bitch !
once a man head butts you , you can never be friends !
The biggest offender is the one with the Gob though.
We won’t win nothing with kids or i’m leaving.
Having a go at Clichy in public during the Birmingham game.
Sitting on the Half way line and not defending the corner in the same game.
Saying the food is shit at the training groung (if true).
Now this!!!!
He has lost more headers that have led to goals more than any other player too..
poor mr gallas,kids these days dont respect a thing,a dressing room full of hoodies lmaoooooo
ground…
gallas is just a bad baby sitter,song for captain
Ethan We all think it’s RVP!!
ethan he is singling out rvp,my gosh !
I have to agree that I am glad Gallas has come out and told some home truths. I am sick of being lied to by the board, manager about where we are. We have money, we don;t have money etc etc. Wenger said he cannot understand the current lack of consistency…well maybe it is staring him in the face..the squad are not together. Needs a big sort yourself out session and hopefully Gallas has shown the bottle to get it sorted. Perhaps behind closed doors…but I’m glad he has, I feel I understand some of the reasons fo rthe shit start we’ve had
I personally dont particularly like Gallas, but I am pleased he has confirmed what we all second guessed at, in that there are problems behind the scenes. It kind of takes away some the horrible thoughts I was getting towards Wenger, although it should still be his responsibility to clear up the mess and not let this happen in the first place.
What I will say though is that I would not be surprised if Gallas loses his captaincy. Which although I dont like him is a mistake as he is the closest thing we have to being a leader without actually being one..
i guarantee its rvp,ade respects his team mates an his crime against nicky b was a crime of passion, rvp is the kind of guy who will tell u fuck yourself an let it be known he is talented an should not tackle back!
Avenell… he has been poor at times, but lately… he has put in some good performances.
I’d rather know that the players aren’t accepting of mediocrity.
Ethan… I’d have money on Ade… but RvP wouldn’t shock me…
We’ve got a lot of talent in the squad… but a poor personality balance.
Thierry, Pires and Paddy were great players… but pretty humble in my opinion.
Nik, Ade and RvP… anything but…
Ethan you are pulling in some crazy hours of posting given the current time in Thailand
Pat… he wont lose his captaincy… that would just create further ill feeling in the dressing room + demotivate one of our best players.
It’s not like there is anyone capable of doing a better job is there?
avenell
some players came to this club because they were winners ..
they were fooled into thinking by wenger that at this club they can win trophies like we used too !
they have been lied too !
You cant expect gallas – cesc to hang around and be loyal too this current crop ..
flamini and hleb already saw it coming .. TH14 , bert , freddie .. some were pushed other thought move on .. But gallas he’s captain , he must stay … or he looks like a failure !
I can understand his anger , currently we all feel it ! Only difference he has to deal with it !
petty in house fighting ! its a virtual school ground .. and he is the Dean !
air your dirty laundry … sometimes its the best for all !
I agree with you pat regards gallas…hopefully the guilty parties will grow up and sort it out now that they know we know…..
i just dont think arsenal have a defender who compliments gallas’s style (maybe djourou would, i think 2 speedy centre halfs dont mix,you need one quick and one tall, this is wengers fault that gallas an kolo both look shyt,they both are too simular and both have the same weakness which would be cured by a big defensive partner!
I dont know Pedro, How reliable are She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, they are already announcing it
Pedro.. yea I know I was trying to like him then he fucks it up..
Pasted from another blog….
If you thought you’ve heard the last of William Gallas attacking Arsenal’s young players in the press, then you’re very far off the mark. Today, The Times published an interview with the 31-year-old skipper and it appears the Frenchman has launched another attack on Arsene Wenger’s policies at the club.
What can reveal, is that Gunners boss Arsene Wenger told Gallas to immediately come back from International Duty, and not undertake the interview Gallas had already planned with French radio station RMC and presenter Philippe Auclair.
Auclair, who recently spoke to on a two-part interview, told RMC that Gallas was forced to cancel several interviews with the French press as Wenger wanted all the players he could have back from Europe in time for Saturday’s crucial league game with Manchester City.
According to several other French sources close to Gallas, Auclair and the blog, a meeting was subsquently called for between Wenger and Arsenal’s skipper. In that meeting, Gallas explained what he truthfully said, and whether anything was taken out of context.
Arsenal are eyeing MLS deputy commissioner Ivan Gazidis as their new chief executive.
The Daily Mail says Gazidis, an Oxford University football Blue, has the credentials for the Arsenal role, having joined the MLS in 1994 as part of their founding management team. Now he oversees all aspects of the competition, as well as being involved in running football organisation CONCACAF.
But the problem for Arsenal will be tempting South African-born Gazidis to leave Connecticut because he recently turned down a seven-figure package to become Manchester City chief executive as he did not want to re-locate to England.
Read this?
be interesting tomorrow’s developments following this. Not sure there is any one else that can handle the job, so Gallas should keep it imo.
‘What can reveal, is that Gunners boss Arsene Wenger told Gallas to immediately come back from International Duty’
Not really surprising? What else was he going to request?
Agreed Wolski
So are the Times
It is a shame, we dont need it but whoever the player was that insulted us should be sold in Jan. My money is on RVP
In all honesty i would not lose sleep if we got rid of Ade, RVP or Gallas in Jan as long as the money was invested back in the squad
Gallas maybe a winner (2 premierships and a cc total). but in football you need the other 10 players on your side, especially if your the captain.
Oil below $50 a barrel… shame…
i just think gallas is worried about his international career and wants to get a move to the french league where french players dont get victimised by mike riley and bolton,thats my opinion
That ribbon site is a load of bollox. Wouldn’t listen to them.
If we are going to change captain, please don’t let it be Kolo Toure. What a boring appointment.
I would personally give it to Amaury Bischoff.
the thing is van doesnt pull his weight when we dont have the ball,and with a natural dm we need everyone pulling their weight when we dont have possesion, van has the arrogance of a player of henry or ronaldo’s talent,but he has not earned the respect to get away with such a diva attitude,its no coincidence that van always does quite well but whoever he partners never does well an often ends up complaining in the press !
gallas is so right in what he has come out with the blame totally lies with wenger and his shite vision WENGER OUT SACK THE BOARD
i think we should bring back silvinho and make him captain
She wore a yellow ribbon is on the same level as footballfanscast or caughtoffside.
I dont think we have any candidates Paulinho,
I think there are some coming through in Ramsey and Djourou but from the current crop I cant pick out a leader amongst them including Cesc and Toure.
You can slate them all you want but taking rivalry aside I would take John Terry, Rio Ferdinand or Steven Gerrard any day of the week and instantly give them the captaincy
bring in roy keane
lol sack the board,how can u sack the board they own the club
shoot them then
time for wenger too quietly fuck off bring back george graham
we should have just paid flamini the money to stay,he would have been a true captain ,thats why edelman is out of work right about now
Something will have to happen as rightly or wrongly the player he has pretty much named and he intended to do it will be one angry mother fucker in training tomorrow
I dont like him but I would still side with gallas
pat
its 6 am ! took the mrs out yesterday .. home and in bed by 10 pm
Today im up with the chickens ! but coffee in hand im hear to what i missed last night
you only need 8 hours sleep a day … Unless your thai
BoybetterKnow – You’re a joker LoL always crack me up, bring in Roy Keane for real blad.
bring back george graham,obviously you aint remembering george graham after his reserve team got addicted
Flamini was a definate candidate for Captain
was popping keyser u good fam
I would give the armband to Clichy at least for now!
6am I bet the bars are still open there if it gets too bad Ethan
i think a few more of these players need to get addicted
rvp can get angry all he wants,he needs a slap anyway,fans that supported his club in holland used to slap him,thats why he left there
Keyser… if there is a legend of doom… it is BBK.
‘Sell RvP and bring in Geovanni to take the freekicks’… classic.
Clichy is too quiet
good point though Pat, top contenders all have english captains. Gerrard, Rio/Neville, Lampard/Terry, Barry..maybe we are missing something with not having an english skipper, the ol british bulldog..someone to have a go when someone is not pulling their weight. Albeit our last successful guy was Viera I guess…but you woul dnot mess withhim…
Pat… I watched him bollock Ade a few weeks ago… I was impressed.
We need someone who can impose their personality on the game and on their team mates. I dont think Clichy could get anyone motivated. Great LB but no leader
Clichy leads by example!
True Avenell.
Barry is the obvious choice in Jan. We need a fucking leader and quick.
I saw that too Pedro but he does not do enough of it, and given his current form I would rather he concentrated on his own game
clichy needs a better pair of studs an a compas so he knows which is his own goal,not an armband right about now
Denilson in two years time.
actually Flamini last season prbably masked the lack of leadership on the pitch because he had a go a people and showed his passion…
clichy cant defend
he only knows one way
BBK… another for the classics.
going forward is all he knows pedro im not playing around
barry wont wanna be the only other englishman in our squad,imagine how he will get paranoid when the defence starts talking french exclusively and even the chef wears onions an garlic round his neck at the training ground
Also for me a Captain can only play in one of two positions CB or CM, I hate GK, Wingers, Fullbacks and FW’s trying to pull it off, it is rarely successful.
BBK like against Ronaldo.. behave!
he keeps making more and more mistakes there is a ? mark on his defensive side of things
Cesc would have to get it Wenger really wanted a big change. If Clichy got it I think Fabregas would throw a strop.
Imagine if Walcott got it lol. Him trying to gee people up in his softly spoken voice.
In the premiership all stars as well…
clichy crosses a ball like he is trying to put it out of play
And this is the problem guys, we are already split on who else in the squad could take it
You ask any Liverpool, Chelsea or Man Ure fan who should be their captain and 99% of fans will name the same player for their respective clubs even though there are other candidates that could easily pull it off
so, has to be british/english and play centre mid or centre half…..stand up……………..Mr Ramsey!
we need a left back that does not pass the half way line
we should see out the season without a captain,they should have to perform for it
Bergkamp… a minor chink in his armour.
His job isn’t to deliver it like Beckham… plus, that cross against ManU was peachy.
in a few years I think Ramsey is definate captain material
and he does need crossing lessons for sure
Stuart Pearce was Englands best captain in the last 2 decades (exception of TA5) and he was LB.
Look how bad Theo is at crossing the ball… and that is his job!
could do a capello and share it round to see where teh cap fits!
i love the gael force,and the sag,but their crosses can be the best,or they can be worse than amateur,i just wish they would practice maybe once a year for a half hour
haha theo is a forward,he is crap on the wing,he dont run at defenders,he just wants the ball infront of him,we got the fastest striker in the world an we play him wide
forget theo when he gets to the final 3rd he shits himself clichy should of got a few lessons from traore
Pedro – I swear I already posted this but it went missing, but I used to take things too serious here and you can’t, really you just can’t..
We should just give it to Cesc. It may awaken him and spring him back to life. I would quite like it too. Watching him line up alongside Ferdinand, Terry in the tunnel. Players he’s all had a ruck with
This season is a write off. Cesc being captain would make it a bit interesting.
While Clichy is in the other teams half there winger is there too, to mark him.
The best form of defence is attack!
I agree Pat. The little we have seen of him he still seems to have that something about him…especially as I cannot see AW buying a home grown CH
Exception rather than the rule Avenell although that is the kind of player I am after. He only did it 10 times though.
A player that could come in and do a job and be our captain is Steven Taylor at Newcastle. That boy has the potential to be really top drawer.
i think we should let gunnersaurus wear the number 5 shirt and pretend to be kolo toure for the rest of the season an give him the armband,his ass is big enough
avanell if best form of defence is attack we should be leaving theo on the halfway line whenever we are defending a set piece
Ohhh good shout Pat..like that
Great shout Bergkamp, Lets see if Drogba can get past that Monster.
I wonder if there are any rules in players taking the field in Mascot Costumes
Cesc would have to change his manner though. If you see him in the tunnel before games he’s usually last out and has his head dropping like a little kid. He would need to stand tall and stick the chest out like Pammy Anderson on baywatch.
we should have bought woodgate,a defender who actually enjoys defending,he would complimnt gallas or toure quite well,or maybe that lump who plays for middlesborugh
Boys back from training so dropping off now. Night
lol pat the gooner,maybe we should buy a blow up sex doll an leave it in the dm position
bring back stefan schwartz
I’m outta here lads. it’s been a pleasure as always.
Nite.
Oh and thanks Pedro/Geoff !
It would show more potential than Song Bergkamp
and eddie mcgoldrick
this is why the policy of gettin rid of the pires’s and bergkamps is a crap policy, you keep these guys about at the club,you dont play them you just keep them in the dressing room an guys who lack respect are forced to act a certain way in the pressence of a legend
And at least a sex doll would take a few of the Chelsea Spice Boys out of the game, only problem is RVP would probably have a go on it as well
chris kywombia upfront
lol thats a low blow ethan
I always thought Steve Morrow was given a short shrift.
when the young players look round the arsenal dressing room all they see is a boy who didnt grow up(kolo) and a fucking lunatic (gallas) ,theres not one legend there to inspire them or who is qualified to take a team to war on a shitty rainy day against a stoke or a villa
Keyser, I think it is like going down the pub with your mates. Sometimes it’s serious, but most of the time it’s just having a laugh talking about what you all have in common!
I was thinking earlier… how silly are we going to feel if JD is a worse performer than Senderos?
I’ll leave you with that though!
I’m off now!
Cheers for the late night blogging company; a pleasure as always!
I think you are on to something there Bergkamp. I know Cesc is quite level headed anyway but he must have been so in awe of being in a dressing room with Henry, Bergkamp, Pires, Freddie, Campbell etc
There is none of that now
see u
i think theo will b fine i am from australia and we play AFL. That is aussie rules football and ther is a player named Chris Judd who had shoulder reconstuctions on both shoulders before he was 18 he is now 24 and the best player in the competition
nah he just got thrown up in the air paulinho thats what they thought of him
rvp would probably get arrested for rapin the sex doll then get babel to bail him out again
Cheers for the info Arsenal69… welcome to Le Grove.
Good night!
dear oh dear im gonna get booted out i think
I actually really rated Senderos, I felt like Djourou he was not given a fair crack
He should not have lost his place when Toure came back from the ANC, he was playing out of his skin
who by bergkamp van persie
Bergkamp, be careful with comments like that. We don’t want a lawsuit against us!
boy better know you gotta be careful you can get banned from posting on these blogs
gus cesar +phil senderos=donkeys
Bergkamp – Come on Bergkamp wasn’t forced out he retired from football.
pedro it just kind of slipped out but if mr rvp sues then we will never buy any rvp merchandise ever again an his future pay rises will be 0%
Pat, I thought Phil played like he was on crack most of the time.
He got a good go, he just couldn’t hold it together on the big occasion consistently.
no but keyser he retired and so did wats his name who is always up at old trafford ,him who survived the plane crash,bobby charlton,they are qualified to tell players what the fans expect of them
Right that is me,
Finishing on a positive note, great to hear that Eduardo is back in full training next week. Whoever did make the comments to Gallas should look at Mr Eduardo and feel utterly ashamed of themselves (If true)
Pat… Phil had more than a good go at it… and came up short everytime.
Anyway… I’m off for real this time.
Night!
i think arsene ruined phil senderos and shot his confidence by chucking in him at the deepend and then dropping him when he did play well,like the run up to the champs league final!
phil senderos is one of the most luckiest foot-ballers on earth
Exaclty Bergkamp, Senderos could have been a legend for us. His weakness was confidence but as soon as he had a run of games he got passed that and then got dropped, for an out of form favorite, and that would kick anyones confidence
I think he is better suited in Italy though and it will not surprise me if he goes onto be a firm favorite in Milan
how can one so shocking be loaned to ac milan and then them accepting it
kolo toure is wengers love child,arsene would rearange formations and line ups to get that man in the team when he is fit
nah maybe denilson has some dirt on wenger to
BOY BETTER KNOW it wasnt so much phil,it was guys like kolo who let phil down, they didnt follow the speed merchants facing us,they often went missing an left phil isolated at the back
its not about how bad phil is or was,its about how good sol campbell and martin keown were ,they made kolo look like a world class defender when really he is just a nervous wreck who is capable of being a defensive moron,no wonder sol had a nervous breakdown ,and phil was on the verge
in wengers time he has had a real bad time identifying quality defenders he was very lucky that he inherited the original lot otherwise i feel he would not of had the same sucess
denilson cant dish dirt on no one,wenger will send a scout to brazil to kick his tin hut over , the only dirt denilson could ever have is a copy of readers wifes,the brazil edition
stepanov,cygan,senderos,djourou the list goes on wenger just has not got that eye for a world class defender he to attack minded
i agree boy better know,but he inherited a team of unfit crack whores and glen helder ,when wenger arrived we had crap midfielders and had crap midfielders for years,ian wright a goal keeper an four defenders,our midfield was so crap our defender were our (longball) playmakers, wenger gave us a midfield!
see you on the other side pedro !
i think nasri would be captain material in a year or 2 !
hes all class , and seems to have got off on the right foot with the media ..
i dont thing he will remain a winger for too long . he needs to get into the middle and help out cesc .
theo – cesc – nasri – vela ..
not a bad midfield ..
but no defence
no presence in that midfield what so ever
sol campbell BOY BETTER KNOW ,ashley cole,silvinho,oleg luzny,keown was a donkey who rioch used in midfield,sagna,toure,they aint bad defenders,its just the team is far too attack minded
add denilson in a 5 man midfield , get a class striker like arshavin or villa and play a 4-5-1 .
that formation would get us a lot of goals .. and restore winning ways ..
oh yeah i forgot luzhny what a donkey horse
when wenger 1st showed up we put height and power in the midfield,now he dont like height nor power,his philosophy has done a 360 turn
forget denilson hes crap
true bergkamp hes lost the [plot completely
denilson is good cover for cesc,but thats it
gallas points the blame at the midfield ..
He said: “We have to understand that to be champions, you have to play big matches every weekend and fight. Maybe against Manchester, the whole team fought for victory. But when you stop fighting together, there comes a time when the midfield will sink and the defenders can also sink. That’s what happened against Villa.
i dont disagree with what Gallas has come out and said to the Press.
as i forone is pissed off with Wenger & Arsenal acting asif every thing is hunky dorrie when it clearly is not.
his telling the lads to get there bloody arses in gear. other wise they will win nothing.
i would like to know who is the 2 players thats Rifting in the squad?
denilson is good cover for no one hes the most talentless brazilian we always seem to get
the thing is theres teams in germany who would pay 6 mill for denilson, teams in italy who would pay 13 mill for rvp,sell them an get a proper centre back, then use your own funds an buy a dm,thats a title challenge
fabregas and gallas raif
exactly bergkamp
another fake brazilian? DENILSON? why do we get the brazilians who cant play,an the ones who can always have dodgy paperwork
i dont care if they argue as long as it dont interfere with our performances,we will see what happens saturday
No it cant invlove Galass as he spoke about 2 Other players mate
it is already in full swing plus wenger has not helped the situation
my feeling is it is cesc he has got that nasty steak in his character
it was gael clich an robin van persie at half time arguin at the spurs game,and gallas also asked robin van persie to defend a set piece tighter to his man an rvp told him he should fuck off an do it himself seen as its his job
BBK. if u said that about RVP i would agree. but i dont see were u get Cesc from.
i think its adebayor!
cesc is a defiant geezah
its just my feeling raif
how can a bunch of rich fuckers be so bitchy,they are paid to do a job ,serious amounts of money an they still are so petty
i watched them do an interview together the other day i got the feeling of bad blood between them
there all bitches bergkamp
nah cesc is hardly even bothered anymore!
lol choy its definantly rvp,ade is good mates with willy off the pitch,its rvp all day,a lot of fans want it to be ade,but they will be sad to know that ade is 7 years younger than willy anyway
well lets try and see here. Gallas told us who it is but not by name. he said the player is 6 years younger then him. how old is Gallas?
rvp is a big time diva,mariah carey an witney houston have nothing on that bitch van persie ,remember when he told henry to fuck off,well he has done it again!
gallas is 31
its rvp,trust me,gallas is 31,the only 25 year olds in our squad are sagna rvp eduardo and hmmmm thats it
remeber gallas is not too clever with numbers according too phillip o clare
oh well rvp is reportedly signing a new contract!
so if gallas is 31. the player in question must be 25 right. must be RvP.
lol BBK..
fuck it they should all go paint balling and shoot each other to oblivion
ade doesnt really give attitude to his team mates,i remember when rvp scored a great goal an henry told him not to get booked an he told him piss off, well its robin all over ,he is just a different type of guy,he thinks no one is better an no one should tell the best forward at arsenal to defend,thats his personality!
BBK i think they should all line up to a wall and WE shoot them to a oblivion instead
fucking good answer raif top draw mate lolllllllllll
choy it makes sense to give any player who is worth money a contract,afterall a long contract makes a player worth more than a player of even talent with a short contract
denilson has been the most consistent of all players in the past 3 EPL games ..
he is young and still has some composure .. he isn’t the finished article but he is turning it around considering he pretty much had last year off !
i wouldn’t count him out just yet he wasn’t a Brazilian captain for nothing ..
i think we should just sell a shyt load of players,but wesley sneider or arjen robben, buy a centre half, buy a dm, start using ramsey instead of denilson,play vela an ade or sell ade and buy another forward,or eduardo an ade,just stop tryin to make players play roles that dont suit them!
How can it be RVP when he’s been missing the last 2 games ??? …
i agree choy its ade !
and he is pissed with nik B … i sort of am as well … but ade faired no better for his 30 minutes the other night ..
he has given the ball the most out of all the other players denilson im sure he is not brazilian
ethan,your on a witch hunt, the whole incident stemmed from the spurs game! ade missed the last two games as well
robben is aother dutch crok so hes out the equation seems like v.p and shneider have kissed and made up
if you think ade would tell william gallas to fuck off on a set piece were defending then ur either hopin its ade or prayin its ade,you know robin has that side to him,the same way he ran up on free kicks when other players place the ball,the same way he gets himself sent off,he is the one!
kissed an made up till the next free kick situation BOY BETTER KNOW robin tellin a great right footed free kick taker to get out the way an let him have a go with his right lol ,just like when piere van hoidonk placed the ball a few years back an robbin ran up an smashed it about 100 meters over the bar
also why would RVP complain about anything ?
if i was him id shut it … as he was the one who lost his cool over the red card …
i cant see RVP saying anything … i dont think RVP would make waves especially after that
red card … ade being left on the bench whilst nik too start would be my guess …
i think some are suggesting robin got himself sent off maybe on purpose,i wouldnt put it past him,he probably didnt fancy man utd,for a player who has missed so many games and big games he didnt seem to care when he should know better about missing out
must be rvp then.. fuck why can’t gallas just tell us who the player is? we arsenal fans are already mindfucked for crying out loud!!! why can’t anyone tell us as it is!!!
ethan this was the game before the stoke game.. the game against the spuds!
ethan ade wasnt left on the bench,he was only on the bench because he had to be, robin got himself sent off,the same robin who no striker has ever enjoyed playing with ,the same guy who hates to pass the ball,robin is a bad seed,i sit behind the goal at every game and you can just know robin is disliked by many and there is good reason for it
he has told us who it is,but he doesnt want to name names,its rvp
ade was sub’d in at 60 minutes V’s villa !
after having to watch nik on the pitch fuck up for 60 minutes ..
so not sure how he missed the last game ?
yes choy i know and it was at half time , when we were in control !
why would the strikers be squabbling ?
why is robin so hated?? he hasnt done a lot wrong,he is just that type ,he has arrogance coming off him,too much for a man who has achieved fuck all
it was an argument to do with a setpiece,robin was prefering to shoot than cross the ball and then against stoke a slight argument which is why robin was so frustrated ethan
of course ade was left on the bench ! wenger went into the game with an unchanged line up that defeated man U !
ade i agree should of been included and nik rested !
but he wasnt ! wenger showed faith in nik …
also if you read the gallas interview the’ 6 years younger reference’ didn’t necessary have anything to do with the spuds game ..
the thing about robin is he has a bad temperment and he lacks respect,he talks about bein the new bergkamp but he isnt even of the correct character,dennis was a man for the team but also was of genius,van is so obsessed with goal of the season ,he should start passing the ball and being a better team player
no ade wasnt 100% ethan,wenger had no other striker
ethan,you just want it to be adebayor,own up
il tell u something,i speak regular to justin hoyte and i still do an i can promise you,its not adebayor and these arguments even go back to henrys last year at arsenal after denilson challeged thierre clumsily and when henry pointed the finger van basically had a hissy fit all over thierry
van is in a bubble,he talks nice on camera,but he believes he is diego maradonna or johan cruyff in the makin,the team followed him around for protection from thierrys evil eye for a while but he has turned into a beast over the last year
bergkamp
why is robin so hated??
thats my point too ! why pin it on RVP ? he doesn’t have any internal known conflicts with
his team mates .. and definitely wasn’t the last 25 year old in the team to play on the pitch !..
also if i were in his shoes , with the red card just behind me , i wouldn’t be screaming blue murder
over some petty incident .. and given ade’s track record … he seems the natural candidate ..
and id say it was aimed at nik …
hey i could be wrong .. but ade is controversial if nothing else ..
van has turned into the top brat,he beleives he is the star man and he shouldnt mark tightly on a setpiece,he believes he should decide if corners are taken short with cesc or he belives he should go for glory instead of pass to ade,afterall its no coincidence that van does well but the team doesnt when he is in it
ok … yes i want it too be ade !
but i cannot see RVP being a trouble maker !
he has been at the club longer than gallas ..
and too me there is no reason for it …
also if its about set pieces and gallas has a problem .. id say its about man marking the tall timber!
and ade has been fucking poor marking tall opponents !
he isnt hated,he needs a reality check,he thinks he is the new henry,he believes he doesnt need to tackle back or defend,he can stand with his hands in his pockets and as a senior no one should question him,well the team have been questioning him,and gallas is the one who has told him to pull himself together..vans reply…fuck you gallas….do u see now ethan
but ethan also notice how van is not well recieved in his homeland an a lot of his feuding on the pitch is often with other dutch men,remember hs tackle on his international colleage jimmy floyd a couple years back
RVP has been our best player this season. Scored goals, set up goals, and even in his scoreless games he’s had chances. All this and he’s still been rusty in open play at times. He can’t help doing good though, such is his class.
I bet Justin has a few more stories to tell though….
remember the sheffield united player punching him in the ribs,remember the blackburn defender knocking him the fuck out,van just oozes with the stuff that makes a man hated, its the way he walks,the way he looks at people,rival fans hate him,but why?? its in his chemicals
to be honest all this seasons chances have fallen to van,our best performances were without him like last season!
paulinho hardly.. he has not been the best player of the season!!
i think all strikers need a bit of spite .. but gallas’s message is cryptic and i spose leaves the door
open for debate .. but it has been a good debate bergkamp !
Bergkamp – What’s the point in accusing Ethan of the same thing you’re doing.
We’re all guessing what’s going on and that’s Gallas’s only mistake, try and gee up the team point out what we need but putting in a quote like that, that’s going to be ripped apart by the media and used to only their benefit he was wrong.
These things happen all the time but we don’t hear about them, if he wanted it to be known that some of the younger players need to be more mature than he should’ve made his point clearer.
justin hoyte is a nice fella but a bit of a square,he could never play for arsenal,too sensible!
keyser,i know its rvp,i have been told its rvp by people who saw this coming ages ago
Did Hoyte say anything else interesting bergkamp?
i promise you,its rvp,off the pitch michael essien william gallas and emanualle adebayor are best mates,ade has always worked hard for the team,there is no reason for him to insult team mates and insult his captain,its not even his nature,ade is a nice guy,robin is the militant big head,he even cuts his hair an measures it with a ruler,he is evil
paulinho to be honest a player dont really know a lot more than us,he is from a very nice family,all well spoken people,he isnt flash,his brothers doin well,they are all gooners, theres just same kind of stories as what youd get in most walks of life,except more money an more girls involved
I was told if you read the interview in full rather than just reading the little bits the press like to use to attack arsenal then it shows Gallas is referring to the game against spurs last season, in which case the two 25 year olds playing were Eboue and Eduardo, RVP was injured back then.
So what if it’s Van Persie, you’re going over the top with this, like with the free-kick thing, he takes them because he’s probably the first player you look to, to actually take one.
Hoyte’s gone and it’s second hand gossip at least, LoL measure his hair cuts..
the young squad did feel relieved when henry left,but as its gone now van has started to fill this void but he isnt henry,he cant act in such a way
He has the quiff of evil ?!
keyser all im sayin is is that this player is having a bad relationship with the team, the manager knows it,the players have questioned the managers selection behind his back,this player sits almsot alone at arsenal now,and he is playin a vital role in the team,the future looks great!
the evil quiff of tintin
I bet Ramsay is thinking, “what crowd of lunatics have I joined?”
rvp is unable to accept criticism,thats what the problem is,he points the finger
TinTin wasn’t so bad..
ramsey must be thinking if only sir alex was at old trafford instead of gary neville when i went there for talks
If I was Ramsey I’d be loving it, look at the Crazy Gang must’ve been a laugh, can you imagine facing up to Eboue’s stepovers in training ? Or Adebayor doing his Milan dance after scoring ? Toure just constantly happy..
Or trying to keep a straight face while Eduardo has his facila tick going, Vela who’s just like Toure and seems constantly happy, Song in slooow motion..
i like the van but he needs to stop usin that ruler on his hair and stop fixing his socks every time he kicks a ball,and he needs to just work harder when we dont have the ball,and sometimes cross his free kicks instead of killing people in the upper tear,thats all oh and close down the oposition! and dont attack team mates,and stay out of strip clubs,and dont be at anfield when ur injured watching your mate babel on the bench when you could be team bonding at eboues pad
ramsey is probably thinking it would of been nice to get a medal this season ..
i know that for sure !
and our current crowd of lun’s will never make the cut , gallas is just trying to dislodge a few fingers
so who reckons gallas will be gone in january?? PSG?
has anyone got a link to the full interview? seeing as the press like to talk complete bollocks and their history recently of completely twisting interviews and such like to continue their very odd attack against arsenal, especially gallas and wenger, makes me query the validity of the quotes. I could imagine Gallas or Wenger coming out tomorrow saying that they are complete bollocks, or taken completely out of context. It seems weird to me that every quote is the same, supposedly taken from an interview with The Associated Press, who don’t have a single article that mentions Gallas’ name in the last week when you search for it.
i still reckon we should cash in on van an maybe nikki B instead of ade,see how eduardo is doin,ade an eduardo looked good last season,buy a proper centre half
Fabregas has the facila tick going on as well during games.
Bergkamp, you missed out on wiping his forehead with arm.
Well whateva the case , im glad gallas came out and rattled some cages ..
at least he isnt in denial !
Its times like this you see he still has the drive to want to win !
and that can only be good for the team !
so over all im happy with the dose of reality ..
vela must be glad he cant understand a word of whats going on
ade still represents about 20 mil on the transfer market ..
and on his wages i would be grinding the axe if i was wenger …
nik still is only 19 and if he can learn too finish his chances he would have already surpassed ade on skill ..
im glad gallas did it as well,this could be whats needed to put us on the glory trail,tony adams once said to dennis bergkamp on the team coach you play well but when are you gonna win us something,that season we won the league,maybe this will put van on a mission
Yeah what the fucks that all about, wiping your forehead with the sweatband on your arm, madness, pure madness.
I’ve never noticed Fabregas’s one how bad is it ?! If it works and the team work well together next game or for a few games after, great job Gallas, if not he’s a bit of a cock.
but ethan if he dont hand in a transfer request it will cost us the 20 mill payin out his contract if we sell him
id be pissed if i was vela .. he can obviously see we havent got a clinical finisher in the squad .
he should be pissed more than anyone .. it took him 3 years to get a work permit ..
he probably wishes he had stayed in Spain !
I still can’t believe people think Gallas is the problem. You can tell looking at his face that he’s completely tuned in during games, like’s got cramps or something. While Clichy has the thousand yard stare…
lol paulinho,van wipes it on his shirt sleeve,not even an ade style wrist band
I don’t think it’s learning to finish ethan, nik just needs to get some confidence when playing for us, you can see playing for Denmark he just looks like a completely different player. Ade will never be one of the top strikers in the game, though we do need him at the moment. If nik and vela settle in, VP stays injury free, and eduardo returns from injury then we’ll see ade leave in the summer I’d imagine.
Does anyone know if eboue is fit for sat? I heard he was having a fitness test on friday, but in the kolo article on the main website it says he’s injured, but not a quote from wenger saying that. Is it just that the article writer didn’t know eboue could be back or has some recurrence happened??
id go for ade an vela on saturday,van on the right wing,theres enough in ade vela van an nasri to change that round 3 or 3 times if it dont work out
wenger can frustrate ade into leaving ..
just play vela – RVP – dudu even theo ..
I personally think nasri would be good as a forward , then just get another winger ..
thats another option wenger might look at ..
LoL at Clichy, what is a thousand yard stare ? I don’t think Clichy has one, yeah Gallas gets an unfair share of the blame but he took the Captain’s armband so should know about the English public’s weird fixation on it.
I bet you Vela’s loving it aswell, he’s scoring goals you score in playgrounds and Wenger’s created almost a buble around the Carling Cup team, just go out and play your socks off.
at the moment we need ade because he’s our best defender on set pieces
bergkamp vela will never play after an international week, previously he hasn’t even been in the squad at times. He finished his match at 3 o clock thursday morning, and incredibly jet lagged etc.
He hasn’t got a sweatband on his arm you sarcy git
Roy Keane slagged off Darren Fletcher publicly. I don’t remember the United fans slagging him off then.
Keane would blow his brains out if he was captain of this side!
A …i hear that,ok well we will have to play ade upfront with nikki-b,robin on the right,we might as well all out attack city,they are just like us
bendtner is better than ade defensively at set pieces, i still can’t believe ade against fenebache, marking their most dangerous player and he just didn’t give a shit didn’t even try, unforgivable
i dunno,i think van is a real life starwars character,i think he is darth vaders secret apprentice
I wouldn’t mind vp on the flank, but he could never play midfield in 4-4-2. We could play a 4-5-1, 4-3-3 type barca thing though, with vp right and bendtner left, nasri and diaby central with denilson behind. We tried that sort of thing in pre season but havn’t used it this season, maybe now is the time!! Against City we won’t be able to stop them scoring, they’re too good offensively, we just need to go out to score more than them!
Thousand yard stare was somethign Vietnam veterans got. They were so fucked up mentally they looked in another world when people tried to talk to them.
In Clichy’s case it indicates he’s a dozy bastard.
maybe we should play nikki an ade at centreback an play gallas an sylvestre upfront
This Gallas thing is very poor. As an Arsenal supporter I’m disappointed he went to press with this. Is he hoping that someone from outside The Club is going to help fix it
This sort of stuff should be in house.
clichey scored 2 in 3 games,see u wait for ever for 1 then the floodgates open
gnarly i’d wait to find out what wenger/gallas say about it before people jump to conclusions about gallas “going to the press”. Has anyone actually seen the interview other than the very selective quotes the media love to pick out?!
A
i agree , nik B seems like a kid with his hand forever caught in the cookie jar .
i think theres tension between him and ade ..
they compete for the same spot .. both are of similar build ..
and both really have a similar skill on the ball ..
just ade commands the focus .. i remember last year he said it was a dream playing behind flamini – hleb and cesc , he only had to nod and the pass came in … sometimes with cesc it just arrived like telepathy ..
fuck ! we all know what he did with 90 % of the chances …
but that’s always been my bugbear with him ..
if you get the focus of passing in the final 3rd your going to eventually score . given enough opportunities ..
this year they haven’t come for many reasons .. RVP is back – our midfield is just a skeleton of its former self .. lack of experience .. i think you just need a change ..
some different faces starting with a new strike arrangement ..
then some goals might start flowing ..
i think they tried settle it in house but the orange man who smokes herb in the amsterdam cafes is using his darkside sith lord powers on the rest of the squad
what do people think the team will be on saturday? gotta imagine djourou will move to right back, song centre mid, and then just vp and ade up top. ramsey and wilshere to come on at some point though
A, the press never let facts get in the way of a good story.
I suspect Wenger will use your line of reasoning to tak the sting out of the story. Stripping Gallas would only bring more attention to our beleagured troops.
Keane wouldn’t blow his brains out. he’d be loving it aswell, everyone would, happy happy singing happy happy..
Can you imagine him watching all these kids playing their football and when someone hurts them he has to go and sort them out, it’s his ideal job, be the teams hardnut, bully the opposition sit back and watch them do the rest.
I don’t think he’s got a thousand yard stare, Clichy’s at his best when he’s going all out and is on his toes, it’s like he gets bored finds the simple things monotonous and loses concentration, he’s got like two gears Super-human and then daydreamin..
i agree robin is the kost talented forward,but his movement on the pitch is kind of takin away from cescs game also because he falls deep into them areas where a play maker would go,this is one reason hadly any chances are being created by cesc
Alumunia
Djourou Gallas Silvestre Clichy
Denilson Song Diaby Nasri
RVP Ade
Shit team but that’s what Wenger will do.
city will come at us !
they have a half decent team and a great striker robinho .. petrov – elano .. kompany ..
it will be tough , especially currently with our form slump …
i hope gallas can muster something from all of this .. i see it as a kick in the pants that’s needed
and i applaud gallas for going public ..
whatever the team is on saturday i hope they can win,thats all,infact id play the team that beat wigan
i agree about tension ethan, i think bendtner still doesn’t get on with most of the first team squad, their body language towards him still isn’t quite right. That’s a part of why he looks so much better and happier playing with the league cup team.
I personally just think that people underestimated Hleb last season. Last year he was one of the best midfielders in europe, he made things incredibly easy for Cesc too. The other difference is theo, though he is an incredible player by himself, we’ve not had someone so direct since overmars, and our style of play from last year doesn’t suit him. Theo being in rather than two wingers who roam centrally has a massive impact on Cesc’s contribution, and Nasri is hit and miss, and hasn’t adapted to the hleb role as such and our unique style of play
A
Fair point. But, where there is smoke……..
Keane would have no patience for the likes of Diaby and Denilson. Their lack of defensive urgency would lead to an ak47 being aimed at their heads, full metal jacket style.
I would say that Gallas as a leader is finished.
nasri dont even play the same position as hleb though
I agree with that formation Paulinho, though it’ll be Denilson and Song holding and Diaby and Nasri roaming around in front of them. It doesn’t look incredible on paper, but I think it’s the best team Wenger could pick, unless he was to go with the 4-5-1/4-3-3 with Bendtner left Vp right Ade up top.
ethan petrov is injured and elano has had a big fall out with hughes, so hopefully vassel will keep his place and all the chances will fall to him like their last match! Doesn’t matter how good SWP robinho and ireland are if everything they create ends up at vassel’s feet!
il be honest,i think a few of the squad have fallen out with van,but i think gallas has problems and he is tryin to get out of england
Where there is smoke…..there are mirrors.
he does bergkamp, both came to us from previous clubs primarily as central attacking midfielders in more contintental systems, just as Rosicky and Pires did before them, but in our system all of them play either right or left midfield and roam centrally
Roy keane would be a great manager of Arsenal, but there would be a lot who would disagree.
“nasri dont even play the same position as hleb though” = not as good as Hleb at this point.
ha ha A you know you have cursed us,vassel will score now,just like kevin camball did for forest,and so did jason pineapple head lee
Vassel is pretty decent when from time to time.
nasri plays left,theo sits in hlebs position on the right,its a different system,cesc plays too far back but the biggest difference to the team is van persie,often crawling around no where near the penalty area when theo is cuttin in with the ball,and when he is there how many times does he miss the target lashing the ball instead of just making sure
yeah i agree paulinho, nasri shows flashes of brilliance, but is leagues below what hleb was last season. Though it took both hleb and pires a good 18 months to settle completely, just gotta make do until that happens and hope rosicky is back sooner rather than later!
you’re right bergkamp, i apologise profusely, vassel will get a hattrick on saturday now i’ve written him off to such an extent!
Roy Keane/ Vieira with an Ak 47 or at least some sort of cattle prod would be what they need.
Dunne is missing, but they’ve got pace and power almost all over the place the only thing is they don’t quite have the teamwork, they’ve got enough pace on the attack to rip us apart.
lol A it always happens,we love helping out the useless fuckers like dirk kuyt and darren bent
were gettin strongly linked to arshavin again,if we sign him i will not be happy ,well if we dont sign a tough tackler
A, I have a feeling he will try out Diaby centrally. Nasri hasn’t played right before, neither has Diaby. Denilson has.
Apparently they are all interchangeable though, so everything will be fine…….
It’s only a different system because theo has improved individually so has to play, but is a completely different to Hleb. The reason Cesc is so deep is because Hleb used to come sideways/back and bring him into play, whereas Theo goes straight forward and Cesc gets left behind. It has nothing to do with Denilson, or anyone else, but just that Hleb was incredible, and Nasri won’t settle for a long while, and theo is completely different player. I can see a midfield of Nasri Cesc Denilson Diaby which I’d imagine It’ll be with Theo out or maybe Eboue right Nasri left at times, so basically exactly the same as last season bringing us back to the way we played last year. As such Theo’s injury could be a blessing in disguise
Paulinho Nasri has played right, for France, Marseille, and this season for us a couple of times! Nasri and Theo switched as well a game or two ago, can’t remember who against, maybe even against villa??
but robin dropping deep doesnt effect the team?A
Ah yes, fenerbache as well. Silly me.
I dunno keyser, I can’t remember the last time we were ripped apart by a team trying to play football with pace. The sorts of technical players City have are usually the teams we are very solid against. Ironically the player who’s improved us in the air defensively in Silvestre is the one who is our week link against pace and skill!
watch villa will be 4-0 down at half time against man utd
Is RVP available for this game, anyone?
it would be an interesting season for theo if hleb was still at arsenal
yep gnarley,3 games wigan man utd and villa,ban done
A, Villa did a pretty good job of it on saturday.
i dunno bergkamp, not really. although eduardo was fantastic around the box, he also dropped deep a fair bit, and adebayor last and this season has occasional delusions of being a bergkamp or thierry in his playmaking abilities dropping very deep and invariably tackling or intercepting our own players and just generally getting in the way! I wouldn’t say the forward interchanging is THAT different, but it’s just the way the ball is arriving from the midfield has changed the whole shape of us when we attack
Cheers Bergy, I’ll put him back in my Fantasy Team
nah paulinho, Villa did an incredible defensive job on us and hit us on the break. City are a footballing team, Villa played essentially with a keeper, 7 defenders, and 3 forwards, and just broke very well with the 3 forwards. City won’t be able to kick foul and nullify us like villa did, saturday should be a much more open game. City don’t have the players or mentality to do what Villa did, only an O’neill team could do that in that way!
i would rather see vela or eduardopartner ade,robin drops deep but only to get the ball an be greedy,he is no bergkamp altho he will say he is on the team game,i prefer the old fashioned time of partnership,like smith & wright,ade & ed
gnarley maybe you will get extra van points this week coz he did drive gallas mad
i agree bergkamp, and I think wenger thought hleb would still be here. Theo is a brilliant player, and is getting much closer to being world class, but I still think it’s a bit early and he’s not ready yet to play every game and play well enough to make a difference game in game out. I think Wenger expected Rosicky back, and Hleb to stay, and then we’d have theo and nasri who could be brought through gradually, but unexpected circumstances have occured and forced theo and nasri to come through earlier than intended!
A could you see wenger havin a serious look at a player like arshavin who is very much the hleb type who holds the ball till the ideal moment?
ade is never gonna be a 30 goals a season striker again i dont reckon but he would be a hard working partner for a top marksman and we know he would rise to the challenge if we needed him to like last season,im just so dissapointed with van after the stoke game, i just think he is wasting his own talent with a stinking attitude thinking he is the absolute bee’s knees
yeah definitely bergkamp, he would be great. Though I do fear that he could also take a while to settle in so wouldn’t fix our problems immediately. Could happen though. I reckon whether or not Wenger splashes the case on that type of player will depend on Rosicky. If as hoped he’s back better than he’s ever been at the start of January then I’d be shocked if anyone was brought in in that position, but if he suffers another occurence I’m sure someone will be brought in. I’d love us to sign Elano but I doubt City would sell to us.
i dunno bergs, i wouldn’t say his stokeness is him thinking he’s the bees knees (though he is undoubtedly a bit arrogant). So many wonder talents like rvp have had the sort of temperament where they would do something like that bourne of frustration when things arent going great. Wrighty, Cantona, even the great Bergkamp had the occasional red card for a petulant kick off the ball when things were going badly….
what on earth is “his stokeness”?! thing something went wrong there, i’m inventing words now
elano would be good,he can beat the first defender with a corner too, i just think our next few results will make a major impact on our spending policy stayin the same or changing in jan, if we drop more points they are gonna spend to keep us in the top four because once u drop out of the top four financially it will be hard to get back in
i know about the petulant kick but van is a player who knows what missing big games is all about,you think he would have some self control,and also you think he would try respect the captain bein that he is a bit older than some of the younger players an should be setting examples
I dunno bergkamp, i think players returning will have the biggest impact on our season. If Rosicky returns there’s no way we’ll sign an attacking mid/winger. We could sign Yaya if he’s available but I very much doubt we’ll sign a centre mid just for the sake of it, it’d have to be a top player and I can’t see who would be available. We could possibly sign a centre back but I doubt it as Wenger won’t want to offload any of our current 4 centre backs mid season
i agree,arsene doesnt make opositions players available,he is a bargain man,that stuff dont happen in jan,this window is all about usuin your finances to make teams sell,its just not our way!
right thats it for me,no doubt tommorow will expose more light on what is what,i expect any cracks will be lined over where they can grow wider still
This is an interesting read. Which Grover is The Insider
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=592873&sec=england&root=england&cc=3436
laters ladys an gents! have a good friday!
see ya bergy
His stokeness, his highness, it works A!
There’s no such thing as a Hleb type really. He’s unique. All the rest have an inclination to score, like Arshavin, Rosicky etc. Hleb is happy drifting around the pitch.
god that article is annoying. Villa came to the emirates and beat us because they played one of the most defensive systems I’ve ever seen, and the ref bottled it and let them foul us all day. They were not brilliant and skillful! If the ref had had some balls then Barry, Sidwell, and Agbonlahor would have been booked after 20 minutes for persistant fouling, and Barry and Sidwell wouldn’t have been able to stop us playing by keeping on with the fouling, and Agbonlahor would have been too stupid to stop fouling and would have been sent off!
night bergs
yeah i dunno paulinho, obviously there are no others exactly like Hleb, but there are players who could fill his role and do a sililar job playing in a “free role”. Nasri has shown glimpses of the potential for doing it at times, and Cesc even said in the villa program something along the lines of being able to see his on pitch relationship developing if Nasri continues to roam more centrally. Rosicky will make a massive difference if/when he’s back. We just need someone to roam and fill and create space, as previously Theo just gets the ball on the right and runs really fast, and Nasri is still learning the english game, and does have alot of nice touches but often not in the areas of the pitch where he can make a difference. He needs to get involved more centrally, like Hleb did.
Morning guys..
all set for a 100-99 win?
Now that wenger is talking up Djourou, we can hope of a few less saves (or attempted ones ) from our Goalie.
But I do think Fabianski is the answer and not Almunia.
That penalty save not withstanding, he has been beaten on a no. of occassions from set pieces from which he shud have come forward to cover.
frankly i think we are missing hleb a lot more than i initially thought
strip gallas of captaincy! he’s a tosser..
yea Ikon hleb is being missed!
R.vp attitude is shite…apparently hes the real tosser
Gallas has set himself up nicely to be shipped out in Jan….it’s gotta be done…
ikon
I’m rubbing my eyes in disbelief. Don’t tell me JD20 is finally getting the call up.
David! rvp being shite doesn’t mean Gallas comes out and says what he did! as far as i can remember TH14′s attitude wasn’t what we would expect from sucha great player..he was pissed off more often that not!
GG..yea I think JD needs to be in the centre and if fit Eboue out wide..kolo is also having a calf injury for this weekend!
haha loved the ‘who is the 25yo’ debate, quality
iceman yea I think he is just setting himself up to leave in Jan!
I’d rather have RvP in the team then Gallas any day…..he’s done this before too….it’s getting old now….
yea Iceman thats the point..Exactly..I’m sick of Gallas’ antics..we can bear it once, twice but he doesn’t look like stopping
gg9…..you best believe it….your prayer’s have finally been answered….si?
And think about the timing of his comments….we just lost last week…you’re the fu**in skipper….rally your troops for tomorrow…..not talk shit……..there’s probably only one thing on his mind…..i need to get the hell outta here…….well William……..the feeling’s fu**in mutual…………
iceman
xeeez
And who’d you pray would start alongside him in the centre?
I’d like to see ramsay get a go mid field.
Just read all your comments lads and if it is rvp why is he being offered a new contract at 80k a week.The last thing we need at the moment is a battle of egos between the players,why is this happening because it is a bit like mcclaren with england that certain players have lost their respect for the captain and the boss.this is bad news all round.why does wenger allow all these stories to circulate yet the board keep our finances close to their chests.
Well we are left with Sylvest at the moment although I would like to see kolo get a run with JD in the center due to his pace..
Put gallas at RB tomorrow and kick him away when the passmaster is fit!
and yea Ramsey for MF..right left centre whatever..just put the boy in!
He might as well….we are quite short with the injuries/suspensions…..
I doubt AW has the balls to drop Gallas though….. I hope he does…..Just can’t see it happening …….
Gallas isnt the problem people…neither is Van P. Its the whole team and our Senile old Wanker Manager..
You never hear other team captains slating their team mates in public….bar this guy…on more than one occasion….at the worst times……
i have a terrible feeling that he is going to play Denilson and Song in the midfield…and then Diaby out left with Nasri out wide right….
Sry guys no Ramsey or Wilshere….and no creativity or vision for passes coming from midfield…expect another hard wetched game….
Remove him as captain..yes…remove him from the team? No. Gallas is still our best CB.
yea he does it at the worst times, this is the point..Birmingham comes to mind, after spurs he opened his mouth..
he did it to the chavs..btw I’ve never heard that story that he said “I’ll open it in public when the time is right”..he is a moron..he needs a manager like mourinho to keep him from opening his bloody mouth..
Trying to look on the bright side…..Denilson is sort of an attacking mid….a poor man’s Cesc if you will…if RvP and Ade start….we should be OK….hopefully City will wanna play “football”….up to now this season (touch wood/horse shoe etc) ….any team that has played “football” has been served up….so heres to another open attacking game………
David he’s not gonna take being stripped off the captaincy lightly….. he might even ask to leave if that happens…..
then the tosser should leave…
No one player is above the manager…i think he is still worth 6-8 million…we can get a good CB adding the money we got now that Walcott is out..
I really hope the Van Buyten rumour has something to it……..he’s a beast of a defender…good in the air and all that………..
David I don’t think anyone would pay 6 to 8 million for him..his contract is up in summer i think..he barks a lot..none of the big teams I know are looking for a defender..!
Barca, Milan, Real, Inter, Bayern..Mayeb some french team can pick him up..but he has ‘ambitions’ u know..which arsenal can’t fulfill!
Morning All, so Gallas has fed the paps again as we knew yesterday, all this has gone too far, I say drop Gallas, teach the idiot a lesson.
Either keeper, wouldnt mind Fab being given a chance
Play JD and Silvestre at the back, bring in Hoyte at RB, and Clichy LB
Midfield – Nasri Diaby Denilson Ramsey
Ade & RvP
Subs Merida, Randall, Vela Nik, keeper, LJ Coquelin/Bischoff
Hoyte is real quick, and may just keep RunnerBeanio under wraps
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7739830.stm
this is bbc reporting on what gallas has said….. i really think some of our poor form is down to him not neccesarily that he is playing shit but because of his mouth…. Gallas wont be hear next season. There are rumours Wenger will strip him of the captaincy which i agree with cause he is doing us no good. But if wenger does do that then Gallas will demand a move in january…… he will probably threaten to score an own goal if he doesnt get his move lol
hear hear rico, but the gallas thing seems to have split le grove down the middle… not for the first time!
We never had all this negative stuff before Gallas, imho he is the ‘bad apple’ in our team, and he may just be the reason players are so down hearted
My predicted team for tomorrow,
—-Almunia—–
JD–Gallas–silvestre–clichy
Nasri-denilson-song-diaby
—-Ade—-RVP—
My team i would play tomorrow.
——Almunia——-
JD—Gallas–silvestre–clichy
Ramsey-diaby-denilson-nasri
—-Ade—-RVP
I was going to put coquelin in there instead of denilson but i know fine well that aint going to happen so thats still a reasonably plausable team for wenger to play
Morning Seb – couldnt agree more, the beginning was the Birminham game, now surely this must be the end. I hate us losing, but would rather see all the team turn up and play their hearts out and lose, rather than a team full of ‘down hearted’ players under perform and get beat. We need our buzz back, that happiness on the players faces back. Maybe now is the time to give Cesc the armband, he would be a proud captain, and i think the other players would raise their game.. Anyone but Gallas, oh and Song of course
Good Morning Rico and all,I agree what you say about Gallas.Another thing clichy is on 4 yellows to add o our woes.
I would like to see changes against city,they are very much like us,attacking team but vunerable in defence.but knowing our manager he won’t be bold any will rely on the same players except RB will be interesting.and Ramsey might come in for cesc.
Morning kelsey – bummer about clichy
Maybe Geoff/Pedro could do a vote thingy this morning, asking us who would drop Gallas and take the armband from him – Got my vote
captain for tomorrow – Almunia if he played, his best game was as skipper in CL game, i think agains Fenebache
Actually, I still have my boots somewhere, call me up Arsene, i could play Sweeper, but only if there is snow on the pitch
Dum-De-Dum – I’m all alone
Donkey……
Fa-la-la-la-la,
Scooby-dooby-dooooooo
it’s so obvious to me also, but some people thinkn it’s media spin, others think he’s right to call out what he sees.
The point is, if Gallas was not a disruptive character, he wouldn’t have blabbed all this to the French media. The fact that he has – and many many times before – shows several things:
- he cares more about his own image than the club, and wants to make clear that he is not a problem but others are
- he has lost the respect of the dressing room, noone is listening to him there, so he has nowhere to go but the media
- he is totally unaware that the reported unrest in the camp is quite probably down to the poisoned atmosphere his continued publicised comments is creating.
What I want to know is, why doesn’t Gallas go to Wenger to report these problems instead of the media? Why doesn’t he ask for a clear-the-air meeting with the whole squad and the boss, like TA did in 1998? It’s fairly obvious that he is not interested in stimulating a change at the club, like a captain should, he just wants everything to fall into place for him so he can win things again and further the legend of Gallas.
At the moment Cesc is just not mature or vocal enough to lead the team. May be next season but for me IF Gallas looses the captaincy, Clichy should get it until the end of the season. Both Kolo & Almunia are just out of form and hence may loose their starting 11 position (Almunia anyway, Kolo already lost it)
finally looking to the positives after a week of sheer depression and ignorance towards football, only 2 things got me out of it:
1: I don’t believe we can possibly play any worse than against Villa
2: We’re playing city
Changes have to be rung, Ramsey should start, and i’d also look to giving Wilshere his 1st start in the Premiership. Djourou must play, and i would have gone with Kolo if he was fit, just because of his pace, but seeing as he’s out i’d go with Silvestre next to him, Gallas can just fuck off imo. Rb im just hoping Eboue is fit, if not Hoyte. Fabianski over Almunia for me, Almunia confidence is shot and in Fabianski we have someone who wuill actually come for crosses.
My prefered line up is:
Fabianski
Eboue JD20 Silvestre Clichy
Denilson Ramsey
RVP Diaby Wilshere
Adebayor
Chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamon!
The last bit you wrote Seb, spot on, and thats what narks me big time, keep it in the club, dont feed those who already love to slate us – if i was Arsene, I would throw the book at him and tell him to find a new club in January!
deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeniiiiis
Top of the Morning to you
Well if Wenger’s got any balls he’ll use this current ‘situation’ to discipline Gallas and remove the captaincy from him, an ideal opportunity to give the armband to someone more deserving, say Gilberto or Flamini or………….oh i forgot, more AW top qualideee management……
benno – The pass master is injured
It does make you wonder, has Kolo been suffering playing next to that pompous jerk? It might go some way to explaining the dreadful performances of the central pair at times. Silvestre comes in, unaware of the opinion in the squad of Gallas, mates from the French team, they perform a lot better together, we all think it’s because Kolo is actually shit… but I must admit it’s got me thinking now…
Maybe Kolo would get his game back with the armband – maybe Gallas has cheesed him off too – nothing would surprise me about Gallas anymore
Seb – Spooky
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So JD20 and Silvestre to start?
G4
Im spot on thanks dirty den, and you ??
Rico, yeh i wasnt sure if he was back or not, in that case we should turn to youth with Hoyte, who more than held his own against Palacios, Valencia and co at Wigan.
Also went for Wilshere and Diaby over Nasri coz, Diaby is better defensively than Nasri, and Wilshere has shown when he plays that he’s not afraid to get stuck in.
ice – i reckon, and hoyte, clichy to join them
I say give the armband to Toure, drop/rest Gallas (whatever) and play JD20 with Toure, wtf have we got to lose? Giving the armband to Kolo might just be the spart he needs to reignite his form………….c’mon you Gunners!
spart??? Meant to read spark……………..chunky fingers day!
benno, agree, and i would have Merida, Bischoff, Coquelin on the bench, i just want Gallas to be ‘beamed up’
haha rico great minds and all that
Kolo is out dennis
dirty den???? That’s a tad harsh rico……..
Sell Gallas to Lyon or something, he can win Ligue 1 ten years in a row and get all the respect in France that he wants. Plus he will be amongst other moody bastards so his strops won’t have as much effect!
teeeeee heeeeeeeeeeeee dennis
Is he? Fecking typical.
Mind you the problem with “resting” someone like Gallas is his continued disruptive influence.
I know, how about a straight swap deal with Bayern for this Van Buyten character for Gallas, all those in favour say aye!!
rico I really doubt he’d pick Hoyte over Toure for RB………
being cheeky already rico…………
Oh….my bad….didn’t know Kolo was out…..so who does that leave….
Maybe it’ll be
Clichy Song Silvestre JD20
OR
Clichy Gallas Silvestre JD20……….
Iceman, Toure isn’t fit…. and even if he was he should be playing CB to deal with Robinhos pace, coz he’s the only CB we have, who has anywhere close to the pace Robinho has
In a heartbeat dennis………now we have to get the Bavarians to agree to take a sulky French man……….
He might go for that, he can be mates with the Phantom of the Opera over there.
iceman – i’d pay his fecking bus fare….
DDM, i think a lot of people would, me included
i would carry him there
Morning all,
so we’re all on Robin’s side in the spat with Gallas are we ?
Now we need to get into AW’s head or get him to read this somehow!!!
chary you don’t hear Robin spouting off to the media do you
why is everyone dumping on gallas ?
fuck i think he delivered a very well timed kick in the pants of 1/2 of our under achieving over a
achievers..
at least he has some balls !(more so than wenger) it might be what you need to sort out half of these over paid delusional youths .
Maybe we (the supporters) could put a couple of quid in the pot each as a sweetner for Bayern to take the prima donna….
chary not me
i think gallas as captain has every right !
we all complain that we never know the ins and outs of the club , and when we get some
insider info everyone shoots the fuckin messenger !
Seb, I’m not especially espousing either side of the argument at the moment, merely gauging the concensus.
Ethan I can’t believe you’re gonna side with him………
What he did was wrong. Period. You don’t go bitching about your team mates to the media. No two ways about it.
ethan – there’s no doubting that we have a club full of under age, over paid prima donna’s, but Gallas is a woeful influence on the pitch and off of the pitch, who by his very actions doesn’t command respect, the one this all Captains should have. I am a fan of his, playing wise, but his character outstrips his performances all too often for me.
ethan, how is talking to the press aiming a kick at the team???
Do it in fucking private! One to one! As a group! With the manager there!
Not all over the fucking internet and papers!!
That is the conduct of an egomaniac with ADHD, not a captain…
** this ** thing
He did his best to name and shame one of his teammates – that is seriously underhanded behaviour, not worthy of any player let alone the CAPTAIN.
Ethan I agree. We have complained of being too left in the dark. The guys has been unfairly picked on by the media and fans. He wasnt 100% professional with his approach but very much welcome. Just another anti-Arsenal gloom and doom circus.
ethan, many of us have been saying the same things as gallas, however in my opinion he shouldnt have said it in the press. thats why he has let the club and us down.
If we had 6 other players with Gallas’ desire to win we would not be in so much shit
Franchise how is it anti-Arsenal to highlight behaviour in the captain that is unprofessional and potentially damaging?
If there is unrest, a) why is it there in the first place? b) why tell everyone else? c) do something yourself to sort it out during the week.
Gallas wasn’t doing us a favour and keeping us informed about the team, he was trying to save face – dump on others and thereby big up yourself.
Even the manager doesnt have the balls to criticize his players performances
Why don’t our players have the desire to win Franchise? Could it possibly be because the captain is a total cock who has created division in the camp and no one is the slightest bit inclined to fight for him?
I agree that he has the desire and winning mentality, but it need to be channelled in the appropriate manner.
As a team leader/manager i would not be professional bawling out a member of my team in fron of everyone else in the office, what does that do to the individual concerned, and the rest of the team’s moral. The professional thing to do is to take the offending pary(s) to one side and tell indiviually in no uncertain terms. What Gallas has done has undermined his own authority within the dressing room…….
100% agree ddm
Bollocks Seb. Roy Keane fiery character he was. he came out on several occassions to criticize his teammates lack of desire and he was even backed by Sir Alex himself.
fucking hell my spelling today is symptomatic of someone who’s had one too many Duvels the night before!!
Roy Keane has warned Manchester United’s youngsters to expect more tongue-lashings this season if they show any sign of letting their standards slip.
“There are a lot of people, at this club and others, who like to wrap the young lads in cotton wool”, Keane told the official Manchester United magazine
Keane famously launched a vicious verbal assault on some of the fledgling members of the Red Devils squad last season after claiming their attitude in training left plenty to be desired.
His outburst shocked most of the Irish midfielder’s United team-mates, but not manager Sir Alex Ferguson, who backed his skipper’s blistering attack.
Keane’s warnings were proved to be correct as the Old Trafford outfit meekly surrendered their Premiership title to Arsenal more than a month before the season drew to a close.
With just five points from the opening four league matches of the current campaign, there is no clear sign that an improvement is imminent.
If Keane feels the problem again lies with the more inexperienced members of United’s squad, their youth will not save them from their force of the Irishman’s temper.
yea how do you think the rest of the team feels right now? the morale was low as it is and this has only served to lower it.
I dont think it is rvp. either adebayor or nikki.
Franchise…correct me if I’m wrong….Keane’s last rant led him to retiring from the game as a whole?
My point is Gallas has a right to argue his case. They have questioned his leadership like its his sole duty to keep harmony in the camp. He was saying that what else do they expect him to do when certain players who have won ‘f*ck all’ in their careers cant listen to him.
The only time Keane named a teammate in criticism, which is what Gallas has virtually done, it was a matter of weeks before he was out of the club.
i expect the same thing to happen with us.
Guys morale low. We have too many feeble characters that is our problem. Chelsea lost their best manager Mourinho last season after a ‘poor’ start (Not as bad as we are experiencing at the moment). Did the team sulk? No. They said this and that in the press. Yet they came from 10 points behind us and eventually finished ahead of us. Why? Cos they are professionals with big characters.
I’m not so sure where I fit in with the pro or anti Gallas factions. One thing I am sure of is the mankskummers loving media are loving this and will have probably highlighted one section of a long interview as a stick to beat us with; of course the rags and manunews(SSN) will love to show us as a club in crisis. It helps promote our competitors who are all – in teams of poor performance – oases of tranquillity compared to Arsenal who are tearing themselves apart, which is no more than they deserve, the rags/Hansen/MOTD etc will say.
That aside Gallas seems to be one of the few players who hates loosing – was he the only one on the pitch who was livid about our shit performance as we came off the pitch against Villa? It seemed so to me.
We can’t tell exactly what goes on behind closed doors but I get the feeling Robin is a devisive influence and quite likely to not respect the captain if he’s asked to show more commitment.
The fact that Fergie backed Keano’s rants against underperforming kids compared with Wenger’s mollycoddling shows the differing motivational methods -I believe neither are perfect but we all know who’s had the better end product.
If we had John Terry as captain I would expect exactly the same thing. Our players are not shit, that is a fact, their confidence is on the floor. If you have a team of younger players, you don’t appoint a cunt as their representative, you appoint someone they can respect admire and want to emulate. Make a list of Arsenal players that could be a role model for young players, I guarantee you Gallas won’t be in that list. I would put Clichy and Cesc down though, they love the club and have the right attitude.
That wasnt the only reason guys
1. Gill refused to offer him a new deal
2. United wanted Ballack to replace him
3. He was injured (broken foot bone) at the time he made the criticism of his players on MUTV. It wasnt even broadcast. His career was on a decline and Utd wanted to get rid of him
Sorry Seb -Terry is a c**t.
Seb
Franchise how is it anti-Arsenal to highlight behaviour in the captain that is unprofessional and potentially damaging?
you cant get any more damaging than the performances on the pitch currently !
id take a punt on it working and players getting there heads down and doing the hard yards .
i think pointing fingers at certain players , telling they need to lift there game in the EPL , isnt anything we wouldnt expect him to say behind closed doors .. But gallas knows public pressure
might see a change in the squad ..
i dont think it can harm the team any further , putting a fox in the hen house might be whats needed …
air your dirty laundry .. tell the fans what is going on with the club ! instead of us being treated like fucking mushrooms !
dont you think we are better for the honesty ?
i do !
anyway I’m pretty sure today’s post will back Gallas, simply because Geoff is also from the tell-it-how-it-is school of thought.
All I’m saying is Gallas’ intentions maybe right but they way he went about it is wrong…..
Can’t wait to hear what AW has to say about this…….
Seb, I don’t think it’s just confidence is low – the kids are in a comfort zone and only seem to play for the big games where they can put themselves in the shop window for their “dream omve to Barca/Milan/Madrid”.
Gallas seems to be saying you have to prove yourself in the here and now – and that means not just against the mankskummers and Fener, but agianst the less loft oppostion like Hull, Fulham, Stoke and, ytes, even the Spuds..
I know he’s a cunt chary but he leads by example, gets his hands dirty, motivates his team, and doesn’t create an impression via the media that his team are falling apart.
Gallas is a cretin, his comments – whether fully reported or not, he said those words otherwise AP wouldn’t publish them – are going to be lapped up by every other team we face this season, nothing motivates an opponent more than knowing that the team they are facing have problems. What a cunt, nice work William.
by all means tear everyone a new arsehole at the training ground, fuck it lock them in a cupboard and beat seven shades of shit out of them, but don’t tell the rest of the Premier league that you’re doing it!!!
Franchise
100% agree !
and i know most fans want to know the reasons for our poor form !
gallas is pointing it out .. fuck , everyone has to pay the highest royalties to see shit football currently .. and i know most of them lack consistency on the pitch , but to hi- light the problems
isnt such a bad way to resolve the issues ! and get on with it !
ok its a little like ratting on a fellow student in the play ground ..
but if it stops you getting the shit kicked out of you (us) every week
i consider it effective and instant !
Well we’ll just have to wait and see how it worked out…………….
this is NOT how to create a siege mentality – he has dropped the drawbridge and raised the portcullis, ‘come on in all you Premiership teams, we are weak spineless and defenceless, take as many points as you want!’
Sort it out in-house – present a strong face to the public! Don’t reveal the chinks in your armour!!
ethan it won’t stop us getting shit kicked out of us – it’s an own goal of epic proportions.
Mark Hughes is saying to his players this morning:
“Our luck’s in boys – we thought we had problems, but look at THAT lot down south! I want you to twist the knife on Saturday!”
anyway I feel I am ranting about this, I think I need to go and have a lie down in a dark room
Seb, I suspect Gallas has already tried to keep his exasperation with the underperformance of Arsene’s kindergarten on the training ground – he must have been thinking these things from Fulham onwards. Maybe having kept it in house, and seen our season slide further down the khazi, he feels he has no other option left but to make it public ?
They didn’t learn from Fulham, or Hull, or Stoke, or the Spuds and maybe Villa was the last straw .
There aren’t many other trophy winners in the squad.He hates loosing and maybe he feels ther kids won’t respond to anything else.
Desperate times call for depserate measures.
chary
Gallas seems to be saying you have to prove yourself in the here and now -
not only that he is saying the small games are just as important tto do well in & be fucking consistent !
i think it was a good plan of attack from the captain .. ok maybe he should of kept it in house , but
if we are talking about the spuds game , and its still going on now .. how else can he get the spot light on the problem ? it obviously didnt go away ! so spill it !
yeah pedro me too !
id rather know about the frailties at the club than wenger just sweeping it under the carpet ..
fuck after all isnt that what most of us want ?? a bit of honesty ?
its about time if you ask me ..
Wenger’s style of management is suited to mature professionals not a circus of play station playing kids. They need to get out of their comfort zone. Van Persie is one of the senior players at Arsenal and he’s behaviour at Stoke is as immature as u would ever see. Song coming in against Tottenham smiling like a retard. Song refusing to listen to Toure against Stoke. Guys Gallas is pointing to the problems in the camp. MUTINY. A lot of these overpaid kids think they are better than they are actually are. That is the problem. Wenger has afforded them this luxury
Theres a new post its been up a bloody half hour and noone toldus!”!”"”"
Seb – I think most teams already know about the chinks in our armour, there pretty obvious so I don’t think Gallas has revealed anything that’s not common knowledge.
In an ideal world you can present a united, consistent front, but when you piss away points to teams you should be beating then you have to try something else.
Ethan, I think Gallas’ hand has been forced by the succession of toilet performances, he’s probably painfully aware of how his ex-chav mateds are pissing themsleves at the moments and he want s the spoilt kids to buck their ideas up – and fast.
seb
also it could work out that SAID players pull there finger out and know not too fuck with the captain in the future on all issues , and just DO what i say .. ! .. heads down , bums up !
i suppose we will know tomorrow ! but dont stress out about it ..
gallas – silvest , are doing a good job getting some sort of partnership together ..
its all about changing these young players attitude . man shitty can focus on the negatives but i think we just need to get these gremlins out of the club and more forward .
I know. WTF!!!
SORRY CHAPS!
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ok see yas on the new post @!
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Seb u think teams dont know we are weak already. Tottenham at home is enough to give any team the initiative to have a pop at us. Loosing at Stoke and at home to Villa. Sidwell said U look at the big 4 and u think that we got a chance against Arsenal that is the club that spends 100 plus million on wages. Shameful
Morning all…..I know I’m going out on a limb here, but how about Ramsey as captain. Ok he’s young but whenever he plays he commands presence and play builds around him…
I have a feeling that Gallas has decided it’s time to move on… he probably aint gettin any kicks out of playing kindergarten cop.