How good was your knowledge? Tickets winner announced!

Which player played for Ipswich in the 78 cup final and Arsenal in 79 cup final?

Brian Talbot

Which player famously brought Paul Allen down in the 1980 cup final?

Willie Young

Who crossed the ball for Alan Sunderland when he scored the winning goal in the 79 Cup final which we won 3-2?

Graham Rix


About 18 out of 40 gave the correct answer… many were wrong by falsely saying Brady set up Sunderland… sadly, the BBC website let you down on this occasion! Anyway, the winner was drawn from an Arsenal tea mug and his name was:

Ronnie April

Have an enjoyable night!

The nerves are beginning to set in… this is going to be anything but a walk in the park… I’ve got money on a Vela double… how about you? Can Wilshere prove his worth, can the kids show the adults how to defend? Can Fabianski prove why he should be number one… it’s all up for discussion!

Get your predictions in and let us know your thoughts on tonight in the comments section!

545 Responses to “How good was your knowledge? Tickets winner announced!”

  1. Gunner8 says:

    FIX

  2. Gunner8 says:

    Shit I am on a double Double

  3. Gunner8 says:

    and Geoff don’t be Aegist… …from memory pah!

  4. no.1 goon says:

    who won lol

  5. Jamie says:

    Argh – stupid BBC website – someone should be sacked for that…..

  6. no.1 goon says:

    im going for a aron ramsey 35 yard cracker,
    not sure when he’ll score it though lol

  7. Gunner8 says:

    That be my second Hat-Trick Today

    Geoff this is for you

    The Squad In Full

    Goalkeepers:
    Fabianski – Mannone

    Defenders:
    Ogogo – Hoyte – Song – Djourou – Gibbs

    Midfielders:
    Bischoff – Wilshere – Lansbury – Coquelin – Frimpong – Ramsey – Randall – Merida

    Strikers:
    Simpson – Fonte – Vela

  8. Pedro says:

    Jamie, did that guy get back to you in the end?

  9. WOW! 3 Posts in one day???!!! XMAS has come early

  10. xeeez says:

    Frimpong is a striker or what?

  11. Mark C says:

    frimpong is a DM.

    England U17 player.

    my prediction tonight is for us to lose 0-2.

    too much power and experience.

  12. Jamie says:

    Pedro – Yeah he did but unfortunatly he had already sold the tickets.

    Thanks for the contact though!

  13. avenell says:

    Pedro…. was the winner a regular poster?

    Congrates to the winner Enjoy!!!!

  14. Gunner8 says:

    I demand a recount, hanging chads and all that

  15. Arsenal Tom says:

    well done fella’s… 3 posts in one day! been proper good on here today!!!

  16. gazzap says:

    will wenger go with the 4-5-1 he was talking about?? lack of strikers might mean he has to but I dont see Vela as a lone striker. he needs someone close to him.

    possible:
    Fabi
    Hoyte Song Djourou Gibbs
    Wilshere Ramsey Coquelin Merida
    Bishcoff
    Vela

  17. raif says:

    woop woop 3 in one day

  18. raif says:

    METAL GEAR hahahahaha

    Song is a Dumb ARSE LOL

  19. Arsenal Tom says:

    fab
    hoyte song djourou gibbs
    ramsey coq randall wilshere
    fran
    vela

  20. Mark C says:

    Simpson or Fonte will start.

    4 4 2 all the way tonight.

    I think everyone agrees on the keeper and back 4, just the front 6 are up for debate.

  21. Pedro says:

    Avenell… I have no idea! So many of you post with fake e-mail addresses!

    We’ll be running another competition in a few weeks… so keep posting!

    So… what are we debating today?

  22. avenell says:

    Pedro.. If I could ask a favour… on the next competition can you give us a bit more time to get to Le grove if possible. If I had of won I would have given the tickets away because anything after 1 o clock I don’t think I would have made it to the stadium for the first half..

  23. Arsenal Tom says:

    wenger wont not play randall surely?? he’s one of the most experienced out of the kiddies…

    bischoff to play the last 20 mins i reckon with fran playing off vela

  24. Pedro says:

    Avenell… next time I will do it a good 3-4 days before!

    It was a last minute thing today… so apologies for the rush!

  25. kelsey says:

    Ronnie April is a jazzmusician,may i ask if the winner is male or female.ronnie as in eastenderss is short for veronica. and rico are letters in veronica,the mystery deepens.

    if choy had one he would need a week to get there :)

  26. Pedro says:

    It was a man Kelsey…

  27. Pedro says:

    If it was Samantha Janus… I’d be going!

  28. kelsey says:

    Pedro you’d be coming.

  29. Geoff says:

    Gunner8 you must have made a mistake, you put Song in there!

  30. Pedro says:

    haha! True…

  31. Wrighty7 says:

    Afternoon Pedro/Geoff and LE GROOOOOOOOOOOOOVERS!!!!!,

    Whats happening all?

    Three posts today???? I thought I was still pissed from Saturday and seeing treble! LOL.

    Do we post on this one or the other two? Or one of the other two? Or all three??

    Pedro you’ve confused me!!

  32. Geoff says:

    Competition day Wrighty, it confuses us all, this one is the best to post on though!

  33. Geoff says:

    Why am I so nervous, anything today will be a bonus.

  34. Wrighty7 says:

    Cheers Geoff my matey!

    Sorry if this has been discussed already but is anyone else looking forward to seeing our little French Portugeezer Bischoff tonight?

    I’ve never seen him in action and will reserve judgement on him to the best of my ability.

  35. Geoff says:

    He’s okay but Coquelin, Ramsey and Wilshere are the ones I’m most looking forward to seeing.

  36. Paulinho says:

    This game is gonna be a cracker.

    Thank god we won on Saturday. I can only enjoy these these games with the kids when the first team do their jobs.

  37. Wrighty7 says:

    Oh yes, Ramsey and Wilshire go without question mate. They will both be world-class, Vela too.

    I’ve heard good things about Coquelin.

    For some reason I want to see Bischoff the Portugeezer play.

  38. avenell says:

    He scored a good goal for the stiffs last week wrighty..

    Did you stay awake for the boxing?

    I would like to see Simpson up front. he’s big and strong does all the hard work to create chances then seems to lack a bit of confidence just to knock the ball in the net..

  39. Paulinho says:

    I barely stayed up for the boxing. The undercards on these events nearly always send me perilously close to edge of the abyss(sleep).

  40. rico01 says:

    I hope we see,

    Fab

    Hoyte Toure JD Gibbs

    LJ Bischoff Coquelin Ramsey

    Vela Simpson/Fonte

  41. Wrighty7 says:

    Avenell,

    Sadly in my beered up state I was unable to cheer Calzaghe to victory! I fell asleep long before the fight! I was gutted to miss it.

    I think it was Le Grove that I heard Bischoff scored a good goal for the reserves.

  42. rico01 says:

    Well done to the compo winner, hope he is not a wigan fan in london ;)

  43. Jamie says:

    What do you guys think of our goalkeeper situation at the moment?

    A few weeks ago – Almunia couldn’t put a foot wrong in most gooners’ eyes, but after the games against the spuds and Joke city (where he was at fault for at least half of those goals conceded) the majority seem to have lost faith in him again!

    If he goes the same way as Lehman, and becomes error prone on a regular basis, will Fab be a good enough replacement? Or is it time we brought in a world class keeper in Jan?!

  44. Wrighty7 says:

    I bet I know Rico’s answer! LOL ;)

  45. avenell says:

    Wrighty you sounded a bit like you did when you posted on your site late before you went on your hols.. :)

    Wasn’t it Bishoff who got on the oppositions coach instead of the Arsenal (Hallmark Neoplan) (coach spotter :) )the other week at Underhill?

  46. rico01 says:

    Jamie, i have confidence in Almunia, against Manure he was back to his best imho – also, i think fab is a really good No2 – and i dont think those behind him are bad either. I would rather any money was spent on a strong midfielder, with a winning mentality, and after that a CH – albeit Tweetie seems ok with Gallas, and JD is no doubt chomping at the bit.

    It will be interesting to see what happens with Big Phil too, i cant see him coming back, has he even played a game yet for IM?

  47. alex says:

    I have been against Fabianski since he started playing, but for some reason he just seems so comfortable in goal usually it is hard to dislike the lad. I have noticed Almunia’s confidence is gone. Everytime the defense drops the ball back to him i get a bit nervous. Fabianski is starting to look like he is going to be a good goalie. I wish that wonder strike by Rafael on Sat. could have gone against Almunia though, first shot on goal almost for Fab and there was just nothing he could do to see that coming.

  48. chris says:

    what an amazing site this place really is, instead of trying to bombard us with adverts and selling us shit, the owners offer free tickets to a match thru the further generosity of fellow readers,

    well done Pedro and Geoff

  49. rico01 says:

    Spot On Wrighty ;)

    But then i would like some money put aside for…………….. guess who

    David Villa :)

  50. avenell says:

    Rico I don’t think AC Milan would like that … :(

  51. Gunner8 says:

    Rico there is no Toure, just Song!

    Geoff you know if Wenger could his team would be

    ————-Song
    Song—Song—Song—Song
    Song—Song—Song—Song
    ————-Song
    ——–Song

  52. rico01 says:

    Well said chris – you wouldnt get that anywhere else, or such a gesture from any other club blog, take a bow P&G – mme, now that has a ring, PG… Time for tea ;)

    Any tips ;)

  53. rico01 says:

    Woops, i meant AC, thanks ave – no wonder he hasnt played a game :)

  54. Gunner8 says:

    11 Song’s we’ve only got 11 Song’s

    haha Geoff

    I am sure Rigobert will be brought out of retirement soon

  55. rico01 says:

    G8 – I am not having a good afternoon am i !! That means Song then i guess, unless he tries Ayling there? I hope

  56. kenny smith says:

    Metal gear i just watched that link of the interview you posted….. its a bit perverted is it not???? Theo says Kolo and Ade are the “longest in the shower” do you think he misinterpreted the question????? haha…… also when theo was asked who is the least intelligent player in the squad he gave the answer “alex song” which i have absolutely no trouble believing

  57. rico01 says:

    kenny – thats funny :lol:

  58. Wrighty7 says:

    Ha ha Avenell,

    I wish I could remember that far back mate!

  59. Jamie says:

    Almunia certainly lacks confidence that’s for sure – what was he doing on Sat picking up the, albeit sloppy, back pass in the first 2 mins! Enough to nearly give me a heart attack! – should have been straight out into row z.

    I still haven’t seen enough of fab to really know what its like – lets hope he gets a good run the cup by winning tonight!!

  60. Jamie says:

    sounds like the interview was from soccer am…..poor little theo!!

  61. Wrighty7 says:

    Your right there Rico, if I did it on my blog I’d sell ‘em to the highest offer! LOL

    Seriously though nice one Pedro and Geoff, maybe your “enemies” on other Arsenal blogs may take note off your generosity and realise that you are not really bad fellas after all! LOL

  62. kelsey says:

    11 songs that reminds me of the rumanian team who all dyed their hair blond in a world cup match or was it a euro so that the oppo didn’t recognise them.. help me out someone.

  63. Gunner8 says:

    Ayling not in squad either… …get with the freaking programme Rico (felt I was on starship troopers for a second)

  64. Gunner8 says:

    FOR RICO

    Arsenal Squad for tonight

    Goalkeepers:
    Fabianski – Mannone

    Defenders:
    Ogogo – Hoyte – Song – Djourou – Gibbs

    Midfielders:
    Bischoff – Wilshere – Lansbury – Coquelin – Frimpong – Ramsey – Randall – Merida

    Strikers:
    Simpson – Fonte – Vela

  65. Wrighty7 says:

    Kelsey, I remember that. They had red kits on.

  66. Wrighty7 says:

    And their roots were showing!!!! LOL

  67. kelsey says:

    Wrighty seriously it was meant to throw the opposition.Imagine if our lot had masks on looking like song,geoff would have a heart attack.

  68. Geoff says:

    Thanks Chris, Gunner8, if he could! Wrighty we always put Arsenal fans before the management, that’s why the AKB’s hate us, are we bovvered!

  69. Geoff says:

    Just had one thinking about it Kelsey!

  70. Gunner8 says:

    l8ers all

  71. Franchise says:

    Guys just wanted to point something out. Man Utd are such a different side this season. Is it the Berba factor? Does his sluggish approach to the game affect em or is it Queiroz. The space that Ferdinand and Vidic offered Bendtner on Saturday was unbelievable. Anyway not that i’m complaining its a good thing for us. Fergie has got himself another muppet in his back room staff everything he says is correct.

  72. kelsey says:

    Glad you mentioned berbatov.i was discussing him with some mates who support united.you get 5 minutes of magic and 85 minutes of being totally anonymous.he doesn’t fit into the united way of playing,not that i am complaining,he is lazy and would be better in the pace of la liga,and my pals say the same.

  73. Wrighty7 says:

    I cant remember if it worked or not Kelsey.

    I know I nearly had a heart attack when the camera zoomed up on Anderson (the United midfielder) the other day.

    I though someone had changed the channel to the movie, Predator! I was expecting Arnie to appear any second!

  74. Arsenal Tom says:

    fracnchise… i reckon its a bit of both… berba slows down their attacking big time because with tevez rooney and ronny they all play quick running footy. plus ive read plenty of times that quieroz took care of all the defensive work… it showed big time against us… the space nasri got on the 2nd goal was crazy

  75. rico01 says:

    G8 – i was having a laugh re Ayling, i saw the squad earlier, but forgot no kolo ;)

  76. kelsey says:

    ALIENS ARE COMING TO EARTH ON FRIDAY AND THEIR MISSION IS TO ABDUCT ALL GOOD LOOKING AND SEXY PEOPLE.

    YOU WILL BE SAFE, BUT I’M JUST EMAILING YOU TO SAY GOODBYE.

  77. Wrighty7 says:

    Wayne Rooney will be alright then Kelsey!

  78. Arsenal Tom says:

    along with the rest of manchester united

  79. avenell says:

    The Irish team were all going to dye there hair green once. I think Paddy Power was going to sponser them, but they wasn’t allowed..

  80. Paulinho says:

    United didn’t pay us as much respect this season. They thought they could just outclass us and to be fair, if those early chances had gone in they could have very well gone on to do that.

    The upside for us was that there was more space on the counter for us and we could look dangerous ourselves.

    Complete opposite to last years game at the Emirates. Both teams were very wary of eachother and it was all very cat and mouse.

  81. avenell says:

    No it was Tonga at Rugby.. just looked it up!

  82. Wrighty7 says:

    But then again Paulinho, Arsenal had some early chances too.

  83. ReVELAtion says:

    Hey all… On holiday in dk and the tuborg and carlsberg be mighty good.. Missed the game on sat, but heard it was end to end stuff and that we deserved the win, just.. Good result, but after watching the highlights the 9 given to denilson was extremely generous pedro my, my… Onto tonight I can+t believe he hasn’t included Bentdner in the squad…

    My Line up

    Fabianski

    hoyte
    song
    djourou
    gibbs

    Wilshire
    randall
    conquelin
    ramsey
    merida

    Vela

    Bench – Mannone, Ogogo, E.Thomas, Bischoff, Frimpong, Simpson, Fonte

    Wouldnt go with vela upfront on his todd, but we’ll pack the midfield and look to keep the ball.. Simpson has been woeful this season and fonte is of similar ilk to vela..

  84. Arsenal Tom says:

    yeah especially the clichy cross that bendtner skied over and then the 2nd that he, diaby and theo all missed

  85. Rasputin says:

    ReVela – that would be my preferred line up too. I don’t think he wants to risk Nik tonight as we are light on strikers for the Villa game.

    I reckon we’ll win 3:1 – goals by Ramsey, LJ and Coquelin.

  86. Big Raddy says:

    Revela …. if you are in CPH. Go to the Southern Cross. It is where the Danish Arsenal Fanclub meet for games.

  87. gazzap says:

    only reason I would poss go with Bischoff is I think he can play off the striker. Randall, and coquelin play deeper. Ramsey is box to box. Merida and Wilshere will almost certainly be wide. If Bishcoff doesn’t play then surely either Simpson or Fonte will start in a 4-4-2. if none of these 3 play then Vela will be very isolated.

  88. Big Raddy says:

    Should be a good game tonight. What is the weather like in London ? We could use a damp pitch, it will help our passing game.

  89. Geoff says:

    Damp Raddy, Damp.

  90. Arsenal Tom says:

    gazzap… i reckon itll be…

    ramsey, coq, randall, whilshere
    merida
    vela

    wenger was raving about merida saying good he is at playing the ball in the final third etc…

  91. Geoff says:

    I watched Merida’s last two games and wasn’t that impressed, I saw him before he signed and he was awesome.

    Coquelin’s the one that’s impressed me, I’d have him in the Flamini role right now, but then I’d have Ramsey too.

    I thought Lansbury and Randall would push on but they remind me of Seb Larsson, who sadly turned into average.

  92. Geoff says:

    Fuck my heart’s pounding so much I’m going to have to have an adult beverage now! Jesus it’s only a game…

  93. Confidentgoner says:

    The key to winning against what I think will be a packed defense and midfield is to go for wide players and have a good DM. Would like to see Ramsey next to the Vela upfront. If AW gets his selection right, we win 3-2.

  94. Arsenal Tom says:

    plenty of time to geoff old boy take it easy!!!

    djourou should be able to take care or zaki they are both big lads so it should be interesting.

    maybe wilshire off vela then? i reckon merida, wilshire and ramsey could do some real damage if they attack together with vela at pace… randall and coq can do the graft

  95. avenell says:

    I’d have Simpson leading the line with Vela playing off him, then Fonte left midfield and Wilshere to the right mid..
    Ramsey pulling the strings in the middle with the Coq doing the Flamini role!!

  96. ReVELAtion says:

    cheers raddy, but i’m on a shut in with the lady and she´s got the flu :( Does any1 have a decent streaming link for tonights game?

    Good call rasputin on the line up, and i think merida will stay on the left, wilshire on the right and pack the midfield, keeping the ball and hitting them on the counter…

    Agree about randall geoff, but he seems to be another wenger favourite ala song and eboue. He has this cuntley air about him i don´t like, same can be said of lansbury…

    Have we signed this lenny bloke? according to reports he joins on a free in jan then goes to salamanca on loan, any1 confirm this? Brazilian striker whois 20 and played in portugal for braga a couple of years ago… He’s one i don´t know much about.

    We´ve been linked with Iaquinta and de rossi lately aswell.. Don´t know about Iaquinta as we already have 2 better in adebayor and bendtner, but de rossi rerally excites me in the middle of the park with cesc… 25 aswell… Mucho grande..

    theo–cesc–de rossi–nasri

    That is a world class midfield in the making oh my…

  97. Mandanda says:

    avenell – i’ll go with that line-up except Merida for Fonte

  98. ReVELAtion says:

    —————–fabianski———

    –hoyte—–djourou—-song—-gibbs–

    wilshire–randall–conquelin–ramsey–merida

    ——————-Vela——————-

  99. Jamie says:

    just like to say a public thank you to geoff and pedro – managed to get some last min tickets for the game tonight thru le exchange and am taking my girlfriend to her first experience of the emirates.

    now she can FINALLY understand what all the fuss is about!!!

    here’s to a great game!

    Thanks again guys

  100. kelsey says:

    Geoff/Pedro just to reiterate others the free service you provide is second to none,but why 3 posts on one day its difficult to follow the thread.Is it not possible just to join one post to another.not a complaint just asking.

  101. kelsey says:

    WHY MEN ARE NEVER DEPRESSED:

    Men Are Just Happier People–

    Your last name stays put.

    The garage is all yours.

    Wedding plans take care of themselves.

    Chocolate is just another snack.

    You can never be pregnant.

    Car mechanics tell you the truth.

    The world is your urinal.

    You never have to drive to another petrol station toilet because this one is just too icky.

    You don’t have to stop and think of which way to turn a nut on a bolt.

    Same work, more pay.

    Wrinkles add character.

    People never stare at your chest when you’re talking to them..

    New shoes don’t cut, blister, or mangle your feet.

    One mood all the time.

    Phone conversations are over in 30 seconds flat.

    You know stuff about tanks and engines.

    A five-day holiday requires only one suitcase.

    You can open all your own jars.

    You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.

    Your underwear is £8.95 for a three-pack.

    Three pairs of shoes are more than enough.

    You never have strap problems in public

    You are unable to see wrinkles in your clothes.

    Everything on your face stays its original colour.

    The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.

    You only have to shave your face and neck.

    You can play with toys all your life.

    One wallet and one pair of shoes — one colour for all seasons.

    You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.

    You can ‘do’ your nails with a pen knife.

    You have freedom of choice concerning growing a moustache.

    You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

    No wonder men are happier

  102. avenell says:

    I posted on here yesterday about these shirts for sale, It’s not me selling them but if someone collects Arsenal Shirts this is a nice collection and I wouldn’t want a Grover to miss out!!
    It’s worth a look anyway!!

    http://sports.shop.ebay.co.uk/items/Football-Shirts__W0QQ_catrefZ1QQ_flnZ1QQ_sacatZ33485QQ_ssnZplymouthgunnerQQ_trksidZp3911Q2ec0Q2em282?_trksid=p3911.c0.m282

  103. Big Raddy says:

    ReVela – you don’t say if you are still in DK. If you are – it is live on TV2 Sport at 20.40.

    Either that or try the usual streams, Justintv, or MyP2P

  104. kelsey says:

    On Tuesday afternoon, Arsenal Football Club released the following statement:

    “Tomas Rosicky yesterday underwent routine revision surgery in Germany. The operation went as planned and Tomas will now spend at least a few weeks convalescing in Germany. Thereafter he will follow a tailored rehabilitation progamme devised by our medical team.”

    Everyone at Arsenal Football Club would like to wish Tomas the best of luck with his recovery.

    WHAT CAN ONE SAY R.I.P.

  105. London says:

    I’m just putting the humble pie in the oven, gas mark 4. It should be ready about 9.30.

  106. ReVELAtion says:

    yeah im still here raddy… dont think we have TV2 sport just the usual channels that show the brain crushing american tv shows.. If i have to watch numb3rs, simpsons, dr’s or so you think u can dance once more im going to lose it!

  107. Big Raddy says:

    Oh Dear Kelsey. What a sad end to a career that never really reached it’s peak.

    He was such a fine player.

    I hope we are well insured for this,, becasue we will def. need a replacement . And perhaps that is why AW has been hinting about buying in Jan.

  108. Big Raddy says:

    Yes Reva. TV in DK is pure cack unlees you pay for the extra channels.

    Like the cost of living here ? :-)

  109. raif says:

    woop wooop ARE READY FOR TONIGHT BOYS AND GIRLS. :D

  110. raif says:

    WOOP WOOP.. are we ready for tonight Boys and Girls. lets hope we kick arse and i heard Bitchslap is starting

  111. A says:

    where did you hear that raif? I’d be shocked to see him starting having only played 3 reserve team games after such a long time out, as well as the fact his goal and assist in the last game apart he’s looked pretty off the pace though with some nice touches, and that’s reserve team pace

  112. A says:

    One fantastic signing if the rumours of his availability are true would be Elano, especially if he’s available on the cheap

  113. raif says:

    A.

    i heard from Sky Sports News. tho i know already not to belive everything them suckers say. but hey its a Talking point at least.

  114. Big Raddy says:

    Elano could be the Sicknote replacement. ( See Kelsey 5.55). Great player

  115. choy says:

    A that is a good one.. good replacement for rosicky!

  116. kelsey says:

    i would be very surprised if bischoff starts,which means i am probably wrong.

    With regards to rosicky,it’s sad but it’s been on the cards for over a year.

  117. raif says:

    rosicky i still cant belive his been out for about a Year or almost a Year

    the guy must have forgotten how to play Football.

  118. Big Raddy says:

    Less than an hour to kick-off. I have seen little of these guys (except Ramsey/Wilshere), and am looking forward to see how they cope with the kicking they are going to get from Wigan, who are an ‘uncompromising’ team.

    I fear they will outmuscled, but if we can play our one touch football, we will outrun them.

  119. Big Raddy says:

    Raif,

    Imagine how gutted he must be. He was on the verge of greatness. Signed to one of the biggest clubs in the World, an established International, just about to step up, and then his body let’s him down.

    I feel really sorry for the guy, and wish him the best of luck with his rehab. Sadly, he will never be a top player again.

  120. kelsey says:

    Raddy there is no insurance for him only if he was on international duty when the injury occurred and in his case would be very hard to prove.

    like you I only recently got to see the reserves only as you get arsenal t.v. in the package with setanta,but to be honest it is a poor channel with repeat after repeat.

    i think it will be a tight game maybe the odd goal will win it,but hopefully no more injuries

  121. raif says:

    Big Raddy.

    i agree. im looking forowrd to seeing back in the fold and to see how he would fit into our fold of players since theres no Helb TH14 Flamini and so on. so theres a load of new player to get used to playing with.

    i dont think he will ever be the same if his injury carrys on setting him back.
    he had Shot on him didnt he

  122. raif says:

    he had a Shot on him…. i mean

  123. choy says:

    just joining in you guys.. rosicky always had the knack of scoring the all important second goal which sealed our win.. with him out.. we often had teams scoring against us and equalizing the game…

    he sure is a classy player!

  124. A says:

    Why does everyone think that Rosicky won’t be the same player again, and why are people assuming this is a big deal? It’s described as a “routine revision operation”, which could easily have been planned months ago, as they imply. They say he’ll be in Germany for a few weeks (at least) then start rehab, so if he starts rehab at the start of December he could still be back early Jan? Not saying he will be, but just no need to be excessively pessimistic!

  125. raif says:

    ur more then welcome to join in Choy…

    i thought he was rather a classy aswell. the biggest question is will he still be Classy when he comes back? when ever that is…

    and given our Team now were would he fit in?? would he be Cover for Nasri? or would he be the player on the Hole Behind the striker like Helb last year? im sure that was his natural position?

  126. choy says:

    raif his natural position is cm… where cesc plays..

    A .. the fact that he will be out for almost a year now and nobody is really sure when he actually is coming back ! there is no timeline for him!

  127. choy says:

    Official Team:

    * 21 Fabianski
    * 41 Hoyte
    * 17 Song Billong
    * 20 Djourou
    * 40 Gibbs
    * 19 Wilshere
    * 47 Randall
    * 16 Ramsey
    * 43 Merida
    * 50 Simpson
    * 12 Vela

    Substitutes

    * 24 Mannone,
    * 28 Bischoff,
    * 35 Coquelin,
    * 39 Fonte,
    * 42 Lansbury,
    * 46 Ogogo,
    * 56 Frimpong

  128. raif says:

    A.

    also to add to what Choy says. it also brings a Good Talking Point for the Le-grovers to chat about.

  129. A says:

    whose position? Rosicky is an AM, just like Pires, Hleb, Nasri, he’ll play on the flanks as he did before he was injured, as a playmaker winger just like the three forementioned players. I think when/if he returns from injury we’ll rotate Nasri/Theo/Rosicky unless we’re playing 5 man midfield in which case one of Nasri and Rosicky will play behind Ade or Bendtner.

    I thought Wenger said he was going to be back soon after Xmas, hopefully he still will be. Worrying because Wenger will be unlikely to bring in a replacement and hinder the development of Wilshere, unless a temporary solution like Elano is possible.

  130. A says:

    team very predictable with randall fit, should be interesting how Vela copes without Bend supplying him

  131. kelsey says:

    Well i got that right about bischoff,we look a bit vunerable and A read the above about rosicky.

    enjoy the game grovers

  132. choy says:

    Its going to be a very physical battle with wigan today!

  133. raif says:

    if anyone has a link out there for the Match.. please Post it in the Comments

  134. Adebayor......papa says:

    keep the commentary flowing

  135. raif says:

    thanks guys ill try them out.

  136. Adebayor......papa says:

    my connection is too bad

    as fast as a millipede

  137. Adebayor......papa says:

    has it started?

  138. Adebayor......papa says:

    any good text commentary site?

  139. trindle says:

    The mascot is younger than Little Jack!

  140. trindle says:

    by about a week

  141. A says:

    wilshere just absolutely clattered palacios, hilarious

  142. Seb says:

    A few signs already that the stronger Wigan players might boss our weaker lads…

  143. raif says:

    im wacthing it on SopCast. you have to download it.

  144. A says:

    The kids just look a bit nervous as well as trying to hard to impress meaning some dodgy first touches and passes, we’ll be ok

  145. Seb says:

    atdhe on sopcast is working very nicely, english commentary

    http://www2.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=23104&part=sports

  146. raif says:

    i hope we score first it will make wigan think more attacking to get a goal back rather then kick us down first

  147. A says:

    randall really is such an idiot, spends all his time swaggering trying to look much better than he is, given the ball away twice stupidly already

  148. raif says:

    why didnt Vela take a shot with his right foot

  149. Seb says:

    lovely stuff from LJ :D

    and vela can’t shoot with his right foot apparently -.-

  150. Seb says:

    I want to see Randall and Ramsey playing together properly, so far they don’t seem to be working as a pair, mainly because Randall wants to be Gerrard and hit it 50 yards.

  151. A says:

    fantastic run through from vela, shouldve scored but tried to go round kirkland, simpson then hits bar from fantastic wilshere ball

  152. Seb says:

    Song has had his hair cut!! Could this be the making of him… you never know >.<

  153. A says:

    gibbs put through by amazing vela ball, should’ve rolled it across for simpson to tap in but shot and kirkland decent save. We’re playing very well now settled

  154. Pedro says:

    Fuck me… the kids look great!

    Fabianski is trying too hard though… as is Randall!

    Simpson is looking hand… as is Vela!

  155. raif says:

    oh fuck. they should have scored.

  156. Seb says:

    wow A is about 3 minutes ahead of me, no more Le Grove for me tonight, dont wana ruin it!

  157. A says:

    Randall is trying too hard to look good, rather than be good. He’s got ability but will certainly never make it at arsenal, I’ve never seen a kid who just seems like such a complete dick, even worse than bentley.

  158. A says:

    sorry seb, il stop!
    simpson won’t ever make it at arsenal either, but he could get a goal or two this season in teh league cup

  159. rico01 says:

    kirkland is out of this now, simpson will make it, imho ;)

  160. Adebayor......papa says:

    plzzzz A don’t stop… i can’t seem to get any stream working

  161. Seb says:

    omg i cant help it, I have to comment because Jack Wilshere makes me weep with joy!!!

  162. A says:

    simpson has pace, power, good feet, and a good hit, but has nowhere near the intelligence to make it at Arsenal, he can score but stops flowing moves unless he’s on the end of them. He’s defoe like could score goals in the prem, but doesn’t have the all round ability to play for us unfortunately

  163. Seb says:

    yeah carry on A, the people need you :mrgreen:

    besides, it doesn’t really matter, if they score then I csn prepare myself for disappointment, if we do then I can look forward to it :lol:

  164. Adebayor......papa says:

    wtf is with kirkland

    can’t he stop against other times like he does against us

  165. A says:

    ha ok Ade, well Ramsey had a fantastic 30 yard free kick saved by kirland very well, and vela had a vp-style shot from the edge of the area very well saved as well, we’re playing very very well now

  166. Adebayor......papa says:

    how is the elephant playing at CB?

  167. A says:

    they’ve got back into it a bit now, koumas shot over and zaki nearly got through but fabianski came out and took it at his feet, they’ve had couple corners too.

  168. rico01 says:

    A – intelligence will come – as you say, he has everything else ;)

  169. rico01 says:

    oh, and i wouldnt mind being compared to Defoe ;)

  170. Pedro says:

    A, I think you are being a little harsh on Simpson… give the guy a chance! They can’t all be Jack W!

  171. A says:

    nah, intelligence is the one thing in football that is innate, he could be agbonlahor, but just doesn’t have the decision making to be anything more, or good enough for us, seen it already this match, if he isn’t going straight at goal he’s clueless.

    why on earth is kirkland still on the pitch?! they’re gonna crock him for the rest of the season.

  172. rico01 says:

    Gibbs is struggling a little – position wise, imho

  173. Pedro says:

    I really like Randall… I know a lo don’t, but I think he has real talent.

  174. raif says:

    i would just like to say Song is Crap.

    Thank You :)

  175. rico01 says:

    Pedro – he is having a good game, just how he played for the reserves last year, i am so glad

  176. A says:

    wouldn’t say im being harsh, he’s a good youngster, and will be a good premiership player. It’s just that arsenal are the one team that you simply cannot play for if you don’t have the footballing intelligence.
    djourou just should have scored from a corner, bramble missed it in front of him and it put him off, tried to take it down and took too long

  177. Seb says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Merida came off at half time and Coquelin on, and Ramsey goes out to the left to help Gibbs.

  178. A says:

    i agree with the talent bit pedro, but you see it week in week out in the reserves, his attitude is attrocious, be it posing about and losing the ball as a result, or kicking out at the opposition. He’ll be a good prem player too, but not for us, he’s just bentley mark two, but not quite as good.

    gibbs has looked very good going forward. he seems quicker than he used to be

  179. rico01 says:

    A – i think you are being harsh too, he is a good striker, and needs to get used to the big stage, just like many out there tonight – its a good performance, well, all bar SONG!! ;)

  180. Adebayor......papa says:

    who is on left mid field?

    i am reading guardian commentary..and looks like gibbs in knee deep shit

  181. Seb says:

    A…papa its Fran Merida

  182. rico01 says:

    A – Gibbs defensive position is poor at the moment imho, but yes, he is better going forward. Simpson – well he is a young Ian Wright… just not yet the finished article imho

  183. Adebayor......papa says:

    wtf is merida doing..

    as far as i can read, all their attacks are afrm right..
    and gibbs is always struck in no mans land as merida is not helping him out

    wasn’t gibbs a winger?

  184. A says:

    merida is, and yeah de ridder is getting a fair bit of space, though gibbs has done quite well and he is a quality player. Sorry rico just my opinion regarding simpson, he looks unintelligent when playing for the reserves, i promise you he won’t make it, though i hope i’m wrong.

  185. Pedro says:

    A… that is probably the only thing I am unsure about… Randall loves the flicks and the killer pass… but I don’t think that is necessarily a bad thing, providing he can be productive. Wenger really rates him… he plays him whenever he gets a chance (Sunderland last year).

    You say about intelligence, but Ade isn’t exactly intelligent… nor are Kolo and Eboue. I’m not sure if he’ll make it at Arsenal purely based on the talent in front of him.

    Seb… Merida never impresses me… he is like a little door mouse.

    Fabianski is getting into it now!

  186. A says:

    goooooaaaaaaaaaalllllll
    amazing ball from wilshere, good run and toe poke from simpson

  187. trindle says:

    Simpson goal … but JW you are going to be a legend! What a pass

  188. rico01 says:

    A He aint that bad – eh ?? :)

  189. Adebayor......papa says:

    pedro..

    don’t call my sonny a dunce..

    he is going to be togo’s next President

  190. ReVELAtion says:

    1-0 simpson of all people!!!

  191. A says:

    (who wont make it)

  192. Adebayor......papa says:

    c’mon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

  193. Pedro says:

    Great goal from Simpson!

  194. raif says:

    what a fucking Pass

  195. Adebayor......papa says:

    stuff in 2-3 more..

    ramsey to score next

  196. A says:

    pedro in terms of footballing intelligence eboue and kolo are geniuses compared to most, and ade is able to participate in build ups, though is inconsistent.

  197. HelsinkiGooner says:

    was that nice or what???

  198. rico01 says:

    A – we will just agree to disagree then…

  199. chozzer says:

    “The Arsenal 1st team would have been proud to score one like that as Koumas curls one out.” Sky cpmmentary.

  200. ReVELAtion says:

    nice ball by jack and simpson being a nuisance, but he hadn-t done much of note before that,, HT.. COME ON BOYS!

  201. Seb says:

    AHAHAHAHAHA LEGEND

    my commentator said: ‘…and the Arsenal first team would have been proud of that goal, as Koumas curls one out’ :D :D :lol:

  202. Pedro says:

    A… someone just told me Simpson can do a rubik’s cube in 10 minutes…

  203. Adebayor......papa says:

    i think Eboue was a chess player in his past life

  204. Pedro says:

    I’ll take your word on Eboue and Kolo… I wouldn’t class them as intelligent footballers!

  205. Seb says:

    chozzer great minds think alike :mrgreen:

  206. Patrick7 says:

    Hey Rico – you always fancied Simpson from pre-season I remember!

  207. Adebayor......papa says:

    sonny’s IQ is 201

  208. trindle says:

    Song can recall pie to 3 letters

  209. A says:

    great first half, Ramsey and Randall playing very well, few nice touches from Merida, best player on the park is the youngest in little Jack. Vela tried hard and shown some lovely touches but other things not quite coming off, Simpson running all day and stretching them. Fabianski coming flying out of goal for everything which has resulted in couple dangerous moments but still hasn’t really had a save to make. Only worry is De Ridder getting space on the right, although Gibbs has got forward very well and covered back very well Merida isn’t giving him much cover. Defence been solid
    all in all very promising!

  210. Pedro says:

    Eboue knows half the alphabet.

  211. chozzer says:

    yes seb, a phrase that always tickles me. I bet Steve Bruce is curling one out right now.

  212. Adebayor......papa says:

    i think simpson has 50-50 chances to make it

    maybe next season he can start getting a few regular subs if bendtner does not take his chances this year

  213. Adebayor......papa says:

    pedro i bet its the F :)

  214. kelsey says:

    A what about ramsey a free kick specialist.Simpson’s goal was not that easy,well done have a sweetie.

  215. A says:

    Bendtner now is better than Simpson will ever be, and Bend is still very raw. I reckon there could be some teams come in for Simpson in Jan, maybe on loan. Could see Spurs buying Defoe back, and Pompey trying to get in Simpson, you heard it here first

  216. Gooner07 says:

    We should decide on Simpson, I don’t think the lad will pip Theo Walcott. We have enough strikers already.

  217. ReVELAtion says:

    doubt that ade papa… Once ed is fit simpson will go out on loan or be sold.. He scored but that doesnt change my opinion on him.. Still hasnt done f all except toe poke the ball thru the keepers legs.. As someone said playing with no pressure in the CC is one thing a 1st team prem game is a whole different thing altogether

  218. Gooner07 says:

    A,

    Wouldn’t be surprised if Tony is helped by Arsene with Simpson, and few other kids.

  219. ReVELAtion says:

    gooner07.. agree, he is never going to be good enough like poor old justin hoyte

  220. ReVELAtion says:

    defoe wont go back to spurs… He’d be stupid to do that… And tony wont be taking simpson.. he’ll end up at watford or norwich etc

  221. A says:

    Yeah Kelsey that was one hell of a hit. I was hoping Merida was going to take it and was a bit pissed off when Ramsey stepped up as thought he was going to cross it from that angle! In terms of the first team even if Ramsey was playing he wouldn’t take many set pieces. Cesc has seniority and even with Nasri in the side, who is a very good set piece taker Cesc still seems to take the vast majority of them. Unless VP is playing of course. It’ll be interesting to see whether we treat this match as a reserve game, whereby we make 3 subs by 60 minutes to give as many players as possible a run out, or keep the same team trying to win the game

  222. Adebayor......papa says:

    i think a loan to pompey wouldn’t be bad

  223. Gooner07 says:

    Randall has stopped his flicks and careless passes, he’s okay now. I’d like to see Le Coq though.

    Fabianski did great, except for that one corner. He is helping out the team.

    Merida has mobilized the passing, but he needs to function more in final third. Although I see him and Ramsey working out over the left channel.

  224. ReVELAtion says:

    merida needs to do a better job defensivly, gibbs is holding the fort… just… Merida doesnt look like he’ll make it in the long run for me

  225. kelsey says:

    hold on guys,simpson was on loan at millwall and was their player of the year and voted championship player of the year according to the commentators maybe he is a late developer

  226. Gooner07 says:

    And, Young Jack is insane. For a 16 year old, to get past players, and show ball control under pressure, lack of space, etc. The boy is a genius in the making.

  227. Adebayor......papa says:

    coquelin in place of merida and randall on right

  228. Gooner07 says:

    No wonder Jack’s vision got us the opening and the Simpson goal.

  229. A says:

    I would agree regarding Tony taking Simpson on loan but as they’ve taken Traore this season they can’t take another loanee. I think he’d stay in the prem Rev, there are a few teams who could do with another forward, and he’s easily as good as the likes of Frazier Campbell.

  230. ReVELAtion says:

    kelsey everyone in division 1 was at ends with that decision.. I think if he played mfor anyone else he’d be confirmed as shite… He’ll be gone by next summer… Wenger never mentions him when he mentions his british players… Only hoyte, gibbs, randall and wilshire get mentions

  231. Paulinho says:

    Second half will be very revealing. Can we keep playing in their half or will we get penned back? Shall see.

  232. Gooner07 says:

    I’d assume Bischoff would have a run out.

  233. Adebayor......papa says:

    just saw the goal clip

    what a pass

    and what a well timed run by simpson

    i eat my words..

    simpson has a burst of speed in him and a sense of timing it

  234. Benno says:

    well it was defo worth the early start. Think that we need to tighten up a lot on the left, Gibbs is being run ragged, sometimes due to lack of cover but also due to poor positioning and diving in, but he got better towards the end of the half imo. Nothing else needs to be said bout LJW, except thought it was quite funny how he clattered Palcious(?) in the 1st 5 mins. And thought that Simpson deserved his goal, been chasing and harassing the Wigan defense at all times.

    Rico, is that the Song hatred showing through coz i don’t think he’s had to bad a half to be honest…now i’ve cursed him for the 2nd lol.

  235. ReVELAtion says:

    A i’ll stick a tenner on him going to west brom (simpson) he wouldnt get in any1 elses team

  236. Adebayor......papa says:

    A , seeing Gibbs performance today, i think we will bring back Traore in jan and send out Simpson

  237. ReVELAtion says:

    campbell? hahahaha shows how good the quality in division 1 is then doesnt it, besides he’s only at the scum because they didnt have time to replace berbatov and he was part of the deal… Redknapp obviously knows better

  238. A says:

    yeah I think west brom would be a good move for him, and them. Song and Djourou both had a couple of very dodgy moments a piece already second half, we don’t look comfortable. they’re come out very well

  239. Nightman says:

    Bischoff for Merida and Lansbury for Randall pleaze…

  240. Adebayor......papa says:

    after 10-15 more minutes i expect this team

    lansbury song DJ Gibbs

    LJW Ramsey LeCoq Bischoff

    Simpson Vela

  241. ReVELAtion says:

    i wont change my opinion on how simpson will not make it as an arsenal player, but he*s having a good game

  242. rico01 says:

    Pat – i did, i just think he the right attitude, if AW didnt think so he would have let Milwall have him at the end of last season – imho ;)

  243. A says:

    randall is playing as the holding mid i doubt lans would come on for him. Simpson would be amongst the top scorers in the championship, and would get goals in the prem.
    had very nice move between gibbs and merida, simpson flashed a header just over

  244. A says:

    Ade lansbury right back?!

  245. Adebayor......papa says:

    is kirkland back?

  246. rico01 says:

    Rev – if i knew you, i would take that tenner off you :)

  247. raif says:

    Evening Rico :)

    i Heard Eboue Likes to Knit Jumpers in his spare time

  248. Adebayor......papa says:

    A, lansbury played as RB a couple of times

    he is a decent defender and has a nice cross

  249. rico01 says:

    Song !!! a good tackle

  250. Benno says:

    that was a brilliant last ditch tackle by Song ;)

  251. A says:

    Yeah he has done, for the youth team and once in pre season and only if there isn’t anyone else. He’s a centre mid or right mid, he’s like gerrard, can play anywhere but best going forward.

    merida hit from 25 yards kirkland did well to hold onto it bouncing just in front of him. Wilshere looks more and more incredible

  252. ReVELAtion says:

    rico i think me and u just about disagree on everything ,)

  253. rico01 says:

    Rev – is healthy, and we dont mind, do we ;)

  254. Benno says:

    also loving the way the kid’s aren’t afraid to get stuck in and are commiting to the 50:50 tackles

  255. ReVELAtion says:

    nah not at all.. now back on to bendtner :P

  256. rico01 says:

    Benno – spot on, and they get up quick too

  257. Adebayor......papa says:

    a tenner on Rev and Rico agreeing on something ;)

  258. Seb says:

    monster challenge by Song, the kind of thing we don’t normally see from ourdefenders

    and johan has been really solid as well, apart from his handball and the odd stray pass

  259. Benno says:

    yeh Rico, none of this rolly polly on the floor like Eboue and co…

  260. Adebayor......papa says:

    any changes?

  261. Benno says:

    not to single out Eboue or anything….

  262. A says:

    nope not yet

  263. ReVELAtion says:

    arghhhhhhh poor pass

  264. Benno says:

    what a fucking run and final ball by Ramsey!!!!!!

  265. A says:

    ref just gave hilarious fk
    ramsey fantastic run and pass, gibbs blasted into kirland easy save in the end

  266. Adebayor......papa says:

    Eboue gets energy from rolling on the grass….something like popeye and spinach

  267. rico01 says:

    what a chance

  268. ReVELAtion says:

    gibbs that was shite

  269. ReVELAtion says:

    ramsey is so close to first team action it isnt even funny… No wonder ol red nose had the major shiten storm with his board when he signed for us

  270. Adebayor......papa says:

    what happened?

  271. rico01 says:

    ramsey – what a signing

  272. A says:

    ramsey and wilshere have been a level above anyone else this match. Vela not done that much, we know he’s much better playing with someone like Bendtner though.
    nice lay off from simpson, vela smashes it over

  273. Benno says:

    Vela with signs of RVP there?? at least Gibbs’ was on target ;)

  274. rico01 says:

    Blimey Rev – I AGREE :)

  275. ReVELAtion says:

    lol bruno uve won a tenner

  276. rico01 says:

    woooooooooooooooooooooo

    SIMPSON & VELA

  277. rico01 says:

    woooooooooooooooooooooo

    SIMPSON & VELA

  278. Benno says:

    Good goal by Simpson, but credit goes to Vela :d :D

  279. A says:

    simpson just showed his incredible stupidity with us breaking with alot of men over tried to dribble and shoot himself and was very tame, should’ve been goal. fantastic punch from fab
    incredible goal, amazing from vela, lays it on a plate for simpson

    andy gray is so so thick, was brilliant from fabianski, but as punch wasnt confident

  280. ReVELAtion says:

    oh my god yes yes and fucking yes

    Ramsey is the best player on the pitch

  281. chozzer says:

    Vela’s speed. Goaaaal

  282. Adebayor......papa says:

    simpson !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

  283. ReVELAtion says:

    what a ball by ramsey and vela great run and assist and put it on a plate for simpson… The kids can win it

  284. A says:

    got money on vela and zaki to both score, why he pass?! though looks unlikely regarding zaki now. Wouldn’t usually ever bet against arsenal, but as it was a special bet and i was sure we’d win but concede thought why not!

  285. rico01 says:

    Rev – who is bruno

  286. rico01 says:

    A – he has scored two goals, he is a striker – what more do you really want……

  287. A says:

    vela, absolutely incredible chip

  288. trindle says:

    Fucking World Class

  289. rico01 says:

    WHAT A GOAL _ VELA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  290. Benno says:

    Fuuuuk me what a finish!!!!!!!!!!!

  291. chozzer says:

    Velllllllllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  292. Pedro says:

    What a goal!

    A… i can’t believe you are still knocking Simpson…

  293. Seb says:

    You can’t knock Simpson, he might not be the most technical player, but he is an out and out striker, he knows how to find the net. You need – WE need – players like that sometimes.

  294. ReVELAtion says:

    oh what a goal.. vela ela ela eh…. ramsey again in the biuld up… He’s going to oust that cunt denilson la la la la

  295. Pedro says:

    Exactly Seb… there is being a football purist… then there is nit picking… A… you are nit picking.

  296. Adebayor......papa says:

    kolo and sonny loved that goal

    velaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  297. Pat says:

    VELA!!!!!

  298. Adebayor......papa says:

    Vela is the next God !!!

  299. A says:

    well if we were anyone else rico, the goals might do, but for arsenal you have to be an all round player. It depends on a team’s style of play, we don’t play with a player who’s just a goalscorer, Utd sold Van N because Fergie decided they wanted to play more flowing football so couldnt have someone who’s just a goalscorer, however good a goalscorer. No team in the premiership top 4 has a player like that anymore, or any of the top teams in europe, apart from madrid with van n

  300. ReVELAtion says:

    seb what… above adebayor, rvp, bendtner, eduardo, vela and walcott? simpson scored 2 but is he better than any of those mentioned.. honest answer NO so unless we sell someone (which is pointless) he isnt going to get a sniff end of

  301. rico01 says:

    Pedro, Seb – exactly, 2 goals, he is a striker ….. He is just doing his job, and bloody well :)

  302. Benno says:

    Seb, Pedro i agree, i don’t think we’ve had a player who can do that consistantly, since probably wirghty. the way i see it he’s had what 3 mebe 4 chances and has put 2 away, whats the complaints about??

  303. A says:

    what on earth you going on about revelation?! how can you call one of our best players this season a cunt and call yourself an arsenal fan?! and how could ramsey possibly replace denilson, completely different players

  304. ReVELAtion says:

    theres no denying simpson has done well but if rvp or ade were fit and not suspended he wouldnt have got a sniff 2night… but again as my comment states at 9.18pm he hasnt got a chance in hell of making the 1st team and rightly so

  305. Mark C says:

    three nil wtf

  306. rico01 says:

    Rev – come on, we are in four competitions – and its good to see a ‘goal scorer;, wrighty kind of a player, who, if we need him can step up, RvP is due to be injured, Ade is still out, Dudu not yet back, you should be bloomin happy we have a player like him ‘ready’ !!

  307. ReVELAtion says:

    simpson is good at getting on the end of things but when he has the ball near the half way line hes clueless… I dont think pedro and seb are watching the same game

  308. raif says:

    VELA is class

  309. Benno says:

    Bischoff :D :D

  310. Pedro says:

    A… United sold Ruud because he used to make Ronaldo cry…

    They hardly sold him to a club that doesn’t like to play free flowing football did they?

  311. rico01 says:

    i am watching the same me as Pedro and Seb, that is for sure ;)

  312. choy says:

    time for the master

  313. rico01 says:

    oh, and the rest of THOF so it seems :)

  314. Seb says:

    How galling must it be to be beaten by teenagers :D :lol:

    The Wigan players are going to have a bad night’s sleep!

  315. ReVELAtion says:

    rico we have an embarrasment of riches is what im stating and compared to the carbon diamonds like ramsey and wilshire, simpson is still dodgy silver sold at camden market.. Looks nice for a while but not a keeper

    That made sense to me but im drunk

  316. rico01 says:

    hi choy -

  317. Pedro says:

    Revelation… I’m watching a 19 year old hit the bar and score 2 goals.

    What are you watching?

  318. Adebayor......papa says:

    Bischoff coming on

  319. ReVELAtion says:

    wengers still a mug when it comes to substitutions.. wilshire and simpson off for bitch slap and lansbury.. another shut up shop exercise which will lead to a goal against

  320. rico01 says:

    Rev – ah, you are drunk, try switching to Sky Sports 2 then ;)

  321. A says:

    nah utd sold ruud because fergie realised he needed to change their style of play. Madrid don’t play the sort of free flowing football that barca and arsenal do, with everyone interchanging very fluid etc. Sometimes a player will score goals but the team could score more goals with a more all round player who individually won’t score as many

  322. raif says:

    Rico weres my Hello.? i didnt get one back :(

  323. ReVELAtion says:

    a slow p2p stream of the game with spanish commentary ;) he’s done well pedro, but 1 game doesnt make him an excellent player all of a sudden.. dont be so fickle.. Hes been shite in the stiffs all season

  324. Benno says:

    Bischoff and Lansbury are both attack minded midfielders, how is that defensive??

  325. rico01 says:

    Vela is so happy playing, what a man

  326. Adebayor......papa says:

    simpson has been impressive

    that’s why isaid that he will have a biger role next season

    IF bendtner scews up

  327. choy says:

    hello first lady of the grove…

  328. ReVELAtion says:

    im in demark with an annoyed lady who has the flu.. so no sky sports and the stream for sky sports 2 keeps crashing

  329. Pedro says:

    A… he sold him because he was disruptive.

    Madrid play fantastic football… as did ManU when Ruud was there.

    ManU still don’t play football like Arsenal or Barca.

  330. A says:

    what on earth are you talking about again rev?! he’s taken simpson off because he wants to give Bis a run out, and he wants to play him between the midfield and attack. Wilshere had done nothing for ten minutes because he was absolutely exhausted, you could see it in the way he was running

  331. Seb says:

    ReV, what I’m saying is any team can benefit from a player that can find the net. This is a Premiership side, a very talented keeper, and he has 2 goals. He has composure, he has strength and power, he can use his head well, and he has a great shot. he occupies defenders, and in my book that is the most important thing a striker can do, because it often takes two opposing players out of the game.

    Yes he might only ever be a bench player for us, he might only be sixth choice, but he will be a real fans’ favourite, and he might just nick some important goals for the first team one day.

    Labelling him as not good enough makes no sense imo, Wenger has started him against Wigan for a reason.

    Anyway, it’s not worth having a row about :)

  332. rico01 says:

    raif – i am so sorry, hello me old mucker – i have been so busy defending simpson i didnt see your hello, i am so sorry :(

  333. A says:

    pedro they play and have done since ruud was sold much more expansive football, which is the reason ronaldo was able to score so many, with ruud there he would have struggled to get past 15 goals.

  334. ReVELAtion says:

    A i dont know most the time unless its about who will make it in the long run as i watch all reserve and u18 games… my success rate is 95% or so… was wrong about song… funny that

  335. raif says:

    rico – haha no problem its all good.

    so whats wrong with Simpson?? he cant be as Bad as Song

  336. A says:

    Seb he’ll never play for the first team in my opinion. He’s started against wigan because Bendtner is in the first team, and we needed his power. I’d even say fonte is a better player, but too small to play alongside vela

  337. chozzer says:

    Vela to start against Villa?

  338. Adebayor......papa says:

    Fonte on

  339. rico01 says:

    Rue Fonte – now i like him too – bring it on Rev & A ;)

  340. Benno says:

    All we need now is Fonte to score…is that asking for too much?? lol

  341. rico01 says:

    Nice specs Eboue, try wearing them when you play :)

  342. choy says:

    cmon guys.. first start for arsenal.. two goals against titus bramble and co.. you really can’t ask for more!

  343. ReVELAtion says:

    yes seb because wenger at current cannot risk bendtner.. Im not saying he hasnt taken his chance tonight, just that before today simpson has been woeful all season and his hold up and link up play need alot of work… He’s getting to the age where wenger is going to sell him with a sell on fee

  344. Benno says:

    I bet bruce is sittin there thinking…

    ‘Hmm, how many of these kids can i get in on loan’ lol

  345. A says:

    as do i rev, though i’d never profess to knowing who will undoubtedly make it or not, as its impossible to say definitely. You called denilson a cunt, the player who has been one of our best players this season and in the reserves was absolutely incredible. His talent is undeniable.

  346. rico01 says:

    well said choy :)

    who gives a stuff about manure, we just whooped their butts :)

  347. Adebayor......papa says:

    Fonte is a baby face

  348. rico01 says:

    what keeping that was

  349. Benno says:

    OMFG….save of the century??

  350. chozzer says:

    Jim Montgomery Sunderland Leeds 1973

  351. A says:

    he’s done exactly this for the reserves, been far from woeful, run hard, scored a couple of goals, and stretched defences.

    cant believe fab just made that save, if he’d just let it in i would have won 70 quid

  352. ReVELAtion says:

    yes because ramsey will do better but he was 1 who would always feature at some point due to his 1st team appearances before breaking in (non CC)… lets not decend into an arguement like some do here… I have my opinion and think until tonight simpson has been woeful this season… that is all….

    its 3-0 and the tuborg be tasting mighty sweet tonight oh yes…

    who came off for fonte?

  353. Adebayor......papa says:

    look on Bruce’s face was

    Daughter done by First teamer………

    whole team done by kids……….

    priceless !!!

  354. A says:

    denilson is a defensive midfielder, he has the reading of the game to be a defensive midfielder, he’s had years of the brazil captains tutorship to develop him as a defensive midfielder. ramsey is a wonderful talent but not a defensive mid, he’s more attacking than cesc

  355. rico01 says:

    Top performance, a very very young side, who have just out played and beaten a good EPL first team – those kids wont be able to sleep tonight – super duper :)

    :lol: :lol:

  356. A says:

    vela came off, hamstring twinge

  357. Benno says:

    Ade’s Papa, brilliant mate

  358. A says:

    cant believa fab cost me 70 quid with the save of the season, what a performance though

  359. rico01 says:

    A – Denilson is not a DM

  360. Gooner07 says:

    Vela’s chip and Fabianski’s double save – C.L.A.S.S

  361. jimmyfingers says:

    Very enjoyable game, although got a real sense of deja vu. Reckon I’m going to get fresh dose of that tomorrow when I read the sports pages

  362. ReVELAtion says:

    geoff thought we’d really struggle tonight…. instead it’s man u.. There kids are shit, except that rafael bloke.. hes having another good game apparently still 0-0

  363. chozzer says:

    Strange, but i’m not sure the 1st team could have beaten that Wigan team 3-0 tonight.

  364. Gooner07 says:

    Fab’s save is up there with Coupet’s save vs Barcelona, except that Coupet used his head. In any case, what a save!!!!

  365. rico01 says:

    Got to dash now guys, what a night, you all be good now

    Night Night all :)

  366. A says:

    yeah he is rico, it’s just how good he is on the ball that makes people think he isnt, the defensive positions he takes most of the time are deeper than flamini’s were, he’s just better going forward even though flam did alot he very rarely did anything good!

    he was a dm at sao paulo, been a dm throughout brazils youth teams, came to arsenal and was put under gilberto’s tutorship to develop him as a dm, and wenger said he’s like gilberto off the ball, but has rosicky’s ability on the ball

  367. Benno says:

    well i think its time to go back to bed, night all

  368. ReVELAtion says:

    dont think any 1 wants to play our kids…

  369. finestcuts says:

    That was an experienced Premier League team that the youths faced, fantastic football, awesome performance, boy have we got an awesome team………10/10.
    That was a brilliant game by any measure, a superb team performance, they all did well.

  370. rico01 says:

    A – I think a few others may disagree, but me, i am off, i am sure he is a ‘cesc; type player, but not as good ;)

    I will read tomorrow -

  371. Adebayor......papa says:

    rico

    but he is nowadays ;)

  372. Wrighty7 says:

    Good evening all!

    What a DISGRACEFUL performance tonight.

    I mean those kids embarrassing those experience pro’s like that………….;)

  373. A says:

    that’s not where he’s played throughout his career rico, nor where wenger described him as playing when he signed him, nor now! but the clueless pundits have brainwashed everyone into thinking that! (one thing Keane is right about)
    Theres a reason he was in the top 5 tacklers in the prem according to opta until very recently….

    Anyways, what a performance, gotta wonder when/how Ramsey Vela and Wilshere gonna make the step up. Wilshere will make his england debut in the summer, mark my words!

  374. Adebayor......papa says:

    good night all !!

    and to Rev…

    Denilson is not a cunt !!

  375. ReVELAtion says:

    tevez pen mancs 1-0… poor tevez relegated to playing in the CC… there kids apparently, and i quote, ”are nowhere near as good as west hams let alone arsenals” ouch

  376. Seb says:

    There is a psychological advantage to us playing the kids, the opponents are scared of losing to teenagers, which unsettles them, you could see it tonight. I’m not taking anything away from the kids because they have to be confident enough to play their game as well, but you can imagine what was going through the Wigan/Blades player’s minds after the first goal or two, ‘shit we’ll never hear the end of this’

  377. ReVELAtion says:

    o.k ade lol

  378. avenell says:

    Jacks too young to have the MOTM champers… Fucking classic… :) :) :)

  379. avenell says:

    I don’t know why our wage bill is so high we need to get rid of the youth system.. ;)

  380. ReVELAtion says:

    our wage bills are so high because of the yth system ave lol

  381. Maciek says:

    Hello everyone!
    Just one, quick question. I’m know I’m starting to sound boring but how are Fabianski and Djourou doing? About Fab2 I’ve heard many oppositive opinions( I’m talking about today’s match). I’ve heard that he was very nervous at the beginning.
    Please respond if You can.

  382. raif says:

    Wrighty7

    HAHAHA ur comment cracks me up LOL

    but any way lads and ladies. im off to kill some people on the Xbox. till tomorrow :)

  383. ReVELAtion says:

    ramsey was the best player on the pitch… every1 else had a very good game… You wait untill u see fabianski’s double save… Classm with or without a brass…

  384. finestcuts says:

    He did well Maciek, but you should be asking about the whole team not just Fabianski (and Djourou)! They did very well. You should have watched the game!

  385. A says:

    He wasn’t as nervous as the nobhead andy gray was saying. He was just coming for every cross at corners and long throws and a couple of times he got muscled out of it didn’t get enough on it

  386. avenell says:

    Wenger had to take Wilshere off because it was past his bedtime.. :)

  387. vandejie says:

    Our young squad were fucking good today..

    Can we beat chelsea with this team?

  388. Seb says:

    Both of them blew hot and cold, Fabianski especially. he comes out to claim crosses almost every time but sometimes he gets it wrong, also his kicking was pretty bad. But he made an incredible double save, you’ll find it on youtube soon I’m pretty sure.

    Djourou was solid a lot of the time, he stepped up into midfield quite a few times to challenge for the ball, he was solid, but his passing was sometimes a bit sloppy.

    But who cares, 3-0 ^^

  389. A says:

    I’d put wilshere and ramsey a level above anyone on the pitch, and vela got a wonder goal and assist though he was quiet at times and some things didnt come off for him. Everyone else was good

  390. Wrighty7 says:

    Maciek,

    Fabianski began a little nervous but grew into it as the game wore on. He made one of the saves of the season at the end.

    Djourou, for me, was very very solid and composed throughout. He could have given away a penalty but other than that he was like a brick wall.

  391. David says:

    Unbelievable….pls pls…someone give Jacky boy a chance to play a real EPL game…he looked very pissed off when he was asked to come off…

  392. raif says:

    avenell .

    HAHAHAHAHAHA Past his bed time . i love it

  393. trindle says:

    I thought Fabianski’s distribution was first rate – not just the accuracy, but the speed!

  394. avenell says:

    SONG ????????

  395. Seb says:

    I wouldn’t like to call that vandejie, Chelsea have so much power and experience, they wouldn’t waste the amount of possession that Wigan had tonight, that’s for sure. I think we’d struggle, but you never know. Let’s take it a round at a time eh ;)

  396. Wrighty7 says:

    LOL, I do try my best Raif!

  397. David says:

    Im going say it right now…I think Song was the best player on the pitch…incredible performance…this the first time i seen him play at a world class level…

  398. A says:

    yeah trindle, that’s what wenger picked out when we signed him, his distribution is like no other, as soon as the ball hits him he’s sprinting theo-like back up the pitch looking to give it immediately

  399. trindle says:

    I’m not as anti-Song as most … but he was outclassed tonight, by his own team.

  400. Pedro says:

    I’m off to write a totally bias match report!

    Have a great evening Grovers… till tomorrow!

  401. avenell says:

    Raif !!! A message to the Spuds…

    WE DREW 3-0 TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  402. trindle says:

    Big em up Pedro, they deserve it!

  403. GunnerShabz says:

    carlos vela is the man…..

    jack wilshire well, i dont think we will see him in the premiership

    aaron ramsey is probarly the only one who i think is ready for the premiership

  404. A says:

    was that a joke david?! song was solid, very strong, but in a match where we’re completely on top how can a defender be man of the match?! he was good, nothing more nothing less. Wilshere Vela and Ramsey were absolutely exceptional. It also isn’t possible to play at a “world class level” in the carling cup against wigan

  405. Wrighty7 says:

    David has been at Wilshire’s MOM champagne! ;)

    Nah, in all seriousness Song had a good game. He played well at the back.

  406. A says:

    toodles pedro, remember to stress that simpson wont make it at arsenal

  407. Pedro says:

    I’ll tell them that his brain age on the Nintendo DS is 19… he is genius A!

    haha! Night!

  408. ReVELAtion says:

    song was solid for once… definantly not a midfielder in any shape or form but seems to do well as a cb on CC duty… Fabianski at least comes for crosses… Almunia just stays rooted to the spot… djourou shouldnt need to do anymore to get a start at some point in the prem…

    Agree with a about ramsey and wilshire.. Different class… Randall, Hoyte, simpson, gibbs put in good shifts for the english media to drool about also…

    How ramsey isnt a starter for wales i do not know and they go on about this koumas bloke who was absolute shite for wigan today…

    Can only take positives from today’s game…

    QPR should have scored… useless!!! manu have had about 70 chances and scored 1

  409. A says:

    surely you saw his interview after the match?! no general intelligence along with his lack of footballing intelligence. “we had sumfink to prove i fink”. So insightful

  410. David says:

    its no joke my friend…Song made sure we kept our clean sheet with some impressive last minute tackles….Everybody played well…its not far stretched to pick any one player and call them man of the match…like for instance…

    Fabianski….kept a clean sheet and made some impressive recovery saves when im sure if it was ALmunia……u know the rest…ask the spuds…

  411. kelsey says:

    Wigan the team that beat hull 4-0 away.
    great all round performance.
    charlie nicholas just said the 4 who will make it or are already there are,jack,vela,Gibbs and Ramsey.
    Impressed with our physical strength against a physical team,randall a bit wayward but gets stuck in.
    fabianski great save,but still needs to practice punching or catching crosses
    Song i am convinced is a boxer not a footballer just look at him.
    Great crowd doing the mexican wave
    goodnight :)

  412. ReVELAtion says:

    ramsey was MOTM easy

  413. avenell says:

    A…. ten times better than shrek then..

    I thought you need to use your feet to play football…
    and your gob to be on match of the Day..

    Up yours Hanson Lawro… :) :)

    6 ENGLISHMEN in the team up yours PLATINI!!!!! :)

  414. David says:

    I think Jay Simpson has a future at arsenal…serious pace…and great shots on target…there is no reason why we cant have him as a back up..in my mind he plays much better than Nikki Bullshit!!!

  415. ReVELAtion says:

    Charlie Nic always was my fav sky pundit… Talks sense… Andy gray on the other hand is a manc loving twat or anyone who plays against arsenal for that fact

  416. mark says:

    Were you watching Ade and Nikki that’s how to finish.

  417. A says:

    wilshere was awarded it. I would have said very hard to choose between wilshere and ram, but ram probably would have just about shaded it, just because he played the full 90 and was involved a bit more

  418. Maciek says:

    Thanks guys! Avenell- great joke about Jack W. I couldn’t watch here in Poland but I will try to find any retransmission. Should Vela start witch Bendtner on Saturday or should we play the same line-up as against united?

  419. trindle says:

    Song played well, as did JD … one of them probably has a future. Fabianski can catch the ball. Overall there was a fair bit of pace on show too. All three goals had class and, unusually for me, at 2 – 0, I wasn’t worried about a draw.

  420. A says:

    Ok david, first ridiculousness with song being mom, now slag off bendtner saying simpson is better?! what a clown. Simpson will never make an appearance for arsenal’s first team in anything other than the league cup, unless we’ve won the title a few games early and play the league cup team at the end of the season

  421. ReVELAtion says:

    david just when i thought u was talking sense you come out with that…. Simpson played well but that is ONE GAME! Bendtner is quality… i think so, arsene thinks so, even my icelandic lady (who hates most danes) think so…

    What we found out today is that we have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to quality youngsters…. George Graham was right, the rest are envioius… Steve Bruce aka manc twat is going to get a nasty fone call from fergie tonight lol…

    and to make matters worse his daughters getting roggered by one oif his squad members…

    Sacked in the morning, you’regetting sacked in the morning

  422. Keyser says:

    Great game, Simpson looked completely different from the Reserves, he usually misses, but under pressure and knowing the importance of it all took his chances well.

    Vela was running after the ball like RoadRunner.

  423. ReVELAtion says:

    A… spot on mate, spot ON!

  424. David says:

    Alright gunners You tell me at least 2 games Bentner has had that he was Outstanding….

    Just 2.

    Thank you.

  425. A says:

    Sheffield Utd he was incredible. He was actually very good against utd, to anyone who can analyse football. If ade was playing we wouldn’t have held on. Bendtner’s final ball/shot was pretty average but his ability to hold the ball up, and drive into their half and final third is what gave the defence a rest and resulted in us holding on. Against spurs ade lost it on the halfway line everytime it went up to him which meant that there was never a let up in the pressure and we eventually gave in. Wenger described Bendtner’s performance as outstanding against Utd too

  426. avenell says:

    Keyser … look at my comment at 3.01pm….. You are spot on …

    Maciek … It wasn’t my joke it was SS interviwing Wenger….. Love your comments on here by the way..

    And for everyone who didn’t know the average age today…

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=G7RtHo1JCYA

  427. David says:

    U think giving away the ball cheaply is outstanding…

    Are you out ure twit mind?

    I watched that United game 3 times…and when he wasnt giving the ball away cheaply he was MISSING CLEAR CUT CHANCES

    SIMPSON HIT THE BAR TONIGHT AND SCORED 2! AND HAD ONLY BOUT 3 or 4 CHANCES???

    Pls….o pls…save it…

  428. A says:

    oh and bolton he was man of the match. He hasn’t started that many games either, he’s an incredible talent. His performance against portugal for denmark was amazing as well

  429. A says:

    David, his holding up of the ball was absolutely amazing, better than any of our other forwards could have done, he got into the positions himself and was absolutely exhausted at the end, he could barely run. simpson was playing against wigan in the carling cup, against titus bramble, bendtner was up against ferdinand and vidic. When you grow up you’ll develop a better and deeper understanding of football, don’t worry about it

  430. Keyser says:

    Why are we moaning ? That was a great game, it is an embarrassment of riches, we won both games, Simpson and Bentdner both played their parts in both those victories.

    avenell – It was surprising I thought they’d get battered about, but there were hardly any bad challenges even though Palacios got through about 8 fouls before he got a talking to and still carried on.

    The Barnet pitch looks a lot smaller unless it’s just the camera angle, they seemed to have soo much more space.

  431. David says:

    He hasnt started that many games but Arsene uses him quite often as a sub for either Ade or R.V.P…and while he hasnt started his has had as many games under his belt that he should be a profilic striker by now if he has “incredible talent”…

    I think stumbling over the ball….giving the ball away uselessly…and missing clear cut chances….is incredible talent as well…ure spot on!

  432. finestcuts says:

    Maciek, you can watch any Arsenal game anywhere in the world.

    1) Subscribe to Arsenal TV (about 18z or 3.99 GBP per month) online.
    2) Watch a feed. There are lots of feeds on http://myp2p.eu

  433. David says:

    Ok let me get this straight….ure praising betner…Not because he scores goals…or creates chances…but becuase he was “there” to score them…and because he holds the ball well….?

    wow..ure trying really hard there buddy…try harder….

    how many games has he played for the Arsenal…and you cant give me 2 outstanding games he has had for us…?

    lol.

    Nuff said.

  434. London says:

    It’s at times like this I love my Dad for bringing me up as an Arsenal fan. Pure joy.

    Oh by the way welcome to the dark side David.

  435. A says:

    there are different types of striker, bendtner i doubt will ever be that prolific, but he’ll contribute more goals to the team than someone who is prolific like ade will in his all round play. wasn’t his goal to minute ratio something like 2 in every 3 games last season?!

  436. David says:

    last season…glad u mentioned last season….i especially like how he stopped fabregas’s goal…on the touch line against Liverpool like he was a defender and the event was so amazingly incredibly ridiculous…that the ref called him offsides even tho a defender was behind him and took the ball off him like he was a fly round food…

    Pathetic.

  437. A says:

    David, he was outstanding in bolton and sheffield utd this season, the best player on the pitch both games.

    he was outstanding to an extent against utd, as arsene wenger himself said.

    Bendtner is already considered one of the best young players in europe, simpson will become one of the best players in the championship, or a very average player in the championship

    this season bendtner has starter 7 games, and been man of the match in two of them

  438. Wrighty7 says:

    I respect your opinion on Bendtner David but you should cut the boy some slack.

    Not many people go up against TWO world-class defenders in Vidic and Ferdinand and come out on top. I think Bendtner more than held his own against the pair WITHOUT a partner.

    He has amazing potential and will only get better. He needs a run of games and we will see then what he is capable of.

    He is a regular in the Denmark side and Denmark are respected throughout International football. That says a lot to me!

  439. A says:

    well said wrighty, and his performance in their 3-2 win against portugal was just amazing

  440. ReVELAtion says:

    david the fact you obvious rate our players by stand ou performances says enough about your assessment… The sport is a team game and recently against the mancs bendtner, up front on his todd gave the best partnership in the prem a torrid time… Yes he missed a couple of chances, but he put ina shift in a great team performance… Yes against man utd in a prem game we NEEDED to win in all reality and we did… All our players are decent otherwise they wouldnt be at a club like ARSENAL..

    You are however entitled to your opinion, but the way you are going about it is wrong… My opinion is that simpson, regardless of how well he played tonight will not make it at arsenal because of his lack of technical ability.. Doesnt mean he isnt a good finisher or fighter… But i cannot forsee the future and on the subject of bendtner, like any good striker he needs a run of games to find any kind of form.. The fact he plays regularly upfront for his country well should tell you all you need to know about a 20 year old, younger than simpson aswell.. The overall result is that he like 30 other members of arsenal’s 1st team and reserve squad are of exceptional talent… The problem that wont go away is the lack of trophy winning mentality and physical presense.. If wenger, like so often mooted by himself, can keep this squad together we will piss over everything that stands in its path…. with or without simpson and_or bendtner

  441. BOY BETTER KNOW says:

    look at all these people sticking up for bendtner.jay simpson done a whole lot more then what he has done in his whole career at arsenal bendtner is a waste ..end of

  442. avenell says:

    Simpson has only played 19 mins of first team football before tonight and he as scored 2 goals in 109 mins…. GIVE HIM SOME SLACK TOO!!!!!

  443. David says:

    o for god sakes Wrighty…

    Bentner dropped deep WAY TOO MANY TIMES…and When he wasnt on the wing hopping for support…he gave the ball away…when he got his chances he missed them…tell me one instance in that Untd game that he either created a chance…or he finished one???

    …ok so he has a few good games for his country i am talking about THE ARSENAL…i give a squat bout Denmark! (my apologize to any Danes..jus tryin to make a point)…

    Like i said before…altho he doesnt start he gets sub into games very frequently and when he is not annonymous…he gives the ball away…or stumbles on it…that shiefflied game…all the kids played well…Bolton BENTNER WAS STILL GIVING THE BALL AWAY CHEAPLY i dont get this…this kid cant score…

    Compare Bentner to Benzema..Are they not the same age?

  444. Maciek says:

    Thanks guys( Avenell and Finestcuts especially). Well, how much difference can 4 days make. But just don’t get carried away. Villa on saturday will be really tough game. Remember last year? That’s why I’m a BIT worried. But I think we will beat them. Remember we got many tough matches in the next 4 weeks.

  445. David says:

    O my GAWD!

    WHICH UNTD GAME ARE YOU WATCHING! IS THIS A JOKE???????

    IF THERE WAS ANYONE THAT GAVE THE MANC BASTARDS A HORRID TIME IT WAS NASRI!

    WHERE DID YOU GET THE BENTNER GIVIN THEM A HORRID TIME FROM WHICH GAME?????

    WITH WHICH SHOT??? OR ASSIST??? ARE U SERIOUS??? O GAWD…

  446. A says:

    I’d disagree with simpson beiing a good finisher, he has a good shot, but just kicks the ball as hard as he can, and will score a good few goals as a result, but he lacks any sort of composure.

    Out of today’s starting eleven I’d say Vela, Ramsey, Wilshere obviously will make it, Fabianski is already very close to ousting Almunia, Djourou and Song are already squad members and will continue to be but won’t ever be anything more, Gibbs could become useful, Merida has massive talent but something doesn’t seem quite right, Hoyte, Simpson, won’t ever make it at arsenal but could make it in the premiership at middlesbrough or someone like that if they become as good as they possible can. Randall has a bit more talent than those two but won’t make it at arsenal because of his attitude and the fact he’s a nob

    In terms of the subs Lansbury I’m still unure about but he definitely has some talent, fonte i doubt will make it but does have very good technical ability and intelligence. Players who didn’t come on Coquelin I’ve seen enough to be very excited about, Mannone has looked like he’s improved alot recently, Ogogo has improved but i doubt will make it, and likewise frimpong.

  447. Wrighty7 says:

    The reason Bendtner dropped deep was to mark the deep-lying midfielder Anderson when United had the ball.

    Arsenal got numbers behind the ball and counter-attacked in an end to end game. I think Bendtner was probably told to do this by Wenger.

    Comparing Bendtner to Benzema is difficult. The Premiership is a superior league to the French league and although I don’t doubt Benzema’s quality, I wouldn’t mind betting the physical side of the league wouldn’t appeal to him.

  448. choy says:

    compare the starts benzema has to bendtner david

  449. choy says:

    david.. bendtner laid it on a plate twice for theo who missed!

  450. A says:

    that’s a ridiculous comparison, they’re very different types of strikers, playing in different standard leagues.
    simpson and messi are both 21, try and compare them?!

    Benzeama is probably a better player at the moment than Bendtner, but I don’t hear anyone trying to proclaim his as the best 20 year old striker in the world!

  451. Paulinho says:

    Keyser

    The Underhill pitch makes players shitter than they really are.

  452. Paulinho says:

    Bendtner played well versus United. He had the likes of Ferdinand backing off and was a threat on the ground and in the air. All this, and he’s 20, playing up front by himself. Not bad.

  453. avenell says:

    Simpson has played 1 game and nineteen mins and he is NNNNN NINETEEN!! years old…

  454. David says:

    Bentner is shite.

    …trying to argue with you ladies..is beyond reason…i dont doubt the boy has some talent…but is NOT GOOD ENOUGH for arsenals standards..and Altho i must admit i havent seen enough games for Simpson he has impressed me more than Bentner EVER HAS. PERIOD.

    I rest my case..

  455. A says:

    this is such a silly argument, someone trying to claim a player who’s played a single first class (ish) match and therefore noone can judge anyways, (although by that argument I’ve never played a first class match so noone can say im not better than bendtner) is better than an established international, who is younger, and rated as one of the top youngsters in europe.

    It’s like trying to claim Christopher Wreh was better than the Brazilian Ronaldo because he had one good game

  456. choy says:

    david are you by any chance also pat?

  457. David says:

    Karim Benzema

    Club App (Gls)*
    Olympique Lyonnais 88 (35)

    France 18 (5)

    Nicolas Benter
    Arsenal 35 (6)

    Denmark 21 (8)

    Someone asked for a comparrison….and for club and country Benzema is better BY FAR.

    If the French league is a lesser league then y is Nasri Scoring all these goals for us? I just wander.

  458. chozzer says:

    Definitely pat also.

  459. Wrighty7 says:

    Thats your opinion David so fair enough.

    Its not one I agree with in anyway, shape or form but I guess you have it in your mind that Bendtner is shit!

    I have one question for one though David,

    You have only Bendtner or Simpson available for the game against Chelsea at the end of the month. Who would you HONESTLY pick?

  460. A says:

    well for country bendtner actually better…..

  461. David says:

    No im not Pat..im not disrespectful to the ladies…but im sorry i disagree with just about everything you guys say about Bentner…your talking bout holding the ball…and the fact that he was “there” welll if he isnt there where the *@#(&@Q# should he be???

    A strikers job is to put the ball behind the net…period….or create for someone…and *sigh*…why bother this is a silly argument…i dnt know which games u guys are watching that you rate a fool of a striker that stumbles on the ball and gives it away useless..in every match he plays…this is retarded.

    If you rate that…then…might as well rate adebayor as the greatest there ever will be.

  462. A says:

    david, if a strikers job was to put the ball “behind” the net, then dennis bergkamp was incredibly average wasnt he. and hang on, surely ade is the best if thats the case?!

  463. Wrighty7 says:

    So based on your opinon on what a striker should do David, you must think Dennis Bergkamp was shit.

    He wasn’t a regular goal scorer mate.

  464. David says:

    yea problem is Arsenal is not a country…

    You can say im pat…i dnt care…you also rate Bentner…so that’s just about as absurd as callin me pat…

    And wrighty i dnt know the answer to ure question…i havent seen enough of Simpson to say…but from what i saw tonight…(which is not enough) i would play him…Shit…I would play anyone before i play bentner…Ade should be fit for the Chelsea game…so thank God.

  465. A says:

    Bendtner’s goal to game ratio is actually quite good, 11 goals in 19 starts, 28 sub appearances. so 11 in essentially under 30 games in terms of minutes played, considering the lack of continuity 1 in 3 is very respectable considering how much he offers apart from goals

    so David, do you think Heskey should be in the england squad?

  466. ReVELAtion says:

    has an arsenal 3-0 victory turned into a bendtner vs simpson debate? let’s just leave it at simpson played well tonight, bendtner is the makings of something special as are most of the other arsenal players aged 16-23. im off to nurse the ladies flu, then off to bed before heading to the station to pick up the birtish rags to read about our tremendous win and how utd’s kids are shite in comparison..

    Good night gooners, been a good week thus far…

    Next up villa :)

  467. David says:

    No but he sure as shit scored a handful of the most important if not memorable goals that Arsenal has and will every have…and he created many chances…

    When did Bentner score for us again…? im sry i missd it somewhere some replay or something…and which chance did he create?

    This is silly…

  468. avenell says:

    You can name a player with better stats than all of the Arsenal starting 11, but we would give any team in the world a run for their money!!!

  469. A says:

    yeah how can we have got distracted from a 3-0 win?! to be honest i reckon there is a good chance that david is spurs fan just trying to wind us all up and we’ve all taken the bait. Noone could ever seriously try and rationally argue simpson is in the same league as bendtner.

    night rev, bring on villa!

  470. Wrighty7 says:

    I’m sure he scored an important winner against Spurs last season at the Emirates……..And I’m sure he pinged a 50 yard pass to Adebayor against West Ham and Ade scored.

    My memory is a bit shit though……………..

  471. David says:

    Im not even going to go there…comparing Heskey to Bentner…rofl…Heskey you think Bentner plays like Heskey???

    This conversation is gettin more retarded by the minute…wow.

  472. A says:

    David, he set up theo against utd twice, once with a fantastic bit of skill to go past ferdinand and incredible vision to pick him out. He was man of the match against sheffield utd and Bolton, scoring 2 and setting up 2 against sheffield utd, and setting up the first scoring the second against bolton….

  473. David says:

    1 goal…and 1 assist.

    In over 40 appearances…thatts freaking impressive wrighty…

  474. avenell says:

    Ronaldo was player of the year last year , but we still beat the twaunts 2-1 on saturday. and we never paid out £160 million putting the team together..!!

  475. A says:

    No i don’t think heskey and bendtner have similar styles of play, but both offer something to the team other than goals and assists, which according to you are the only things that matter for a striker “period”

  476. Wrighty7 says:

    Ha ha,

    You asked the question David and I provided the answer mate!

  477. David says:

    He set theo up once…which is the one thing i can let you have…the other chance theo had that he played wide…was off of a Nasri cross…ure pulling at strings here…and id rather die than to be a spurs fan…im insulted im a spurs fan becuase i dnt rate Bentner…??? Wot an insult..

    Ok im done…Bentner is still shite.

  478. A says:

    that’s irrelevant wrighty, if you put forward the facts that ridicule what he’s saying he just ignores them. Keeps saying “give me two games bendtner was outstanding” and you present him with fulham and sheffield utd, man of the match in both, and he just doesn’t respond.

    This season he’s had 7 starts, 5 sub appearances, and got 3 goals 4 assists

  479. Wrighty7 says:

    David I’m sorry but you asked for answer’s and you have been provided with them.

    You have no argument except that Bendtner is shite…………..That is no argument.

  480. David says:

    Heskey has scored more goals for club(s) and country than Bentner so ure point is still invalid.

  481. avenell says:

    How can a true Arsenal supporter come on here after the last 2 results and start slagging of our team???

  482. David says:

    I have no argument other than the fact that Bentner gives away the ball cheaply which obviously you rate…he stumbles on the ball while doing it…which obviously you rate…misses chances like adebayor on crack…which you rate…and if those are not valid arguments i dnt know what is…

    So nuff said.

  483. David says:

    Avenell read the whole thread somebody started swinging at me cuz i said i rate Simpson better than Bentner….So im not the guilty party here…shit.

  484. Wrighty7 says:

    So what are his bad points then David………..;)

  485. A says:

    You’re missing the point, the point was heskey is not selected for his goals or assists, but because he contributes to the team in other ways, and that contribution is valid and valuable. Though even having said that to claim heskey has scored more is stupid too, and simply untrue in terms of his scoring rates. Or do you mean literally more and consider that a valid argument?! in which case so has ricketts?!

    heskey has 14 in 72 for wigan, and started pretty much every game…. for england he has 5 in 50 matches…. his best goalscoring came at liverpool, 40 in 150 games, all those goalscoring ratios are worse than bendtners!

  486. David says:

    he’s had 7 stars BUT WAS SUBD INTO THE GAME IN HOW MANY??? LIKE ALL OF THEM? ARE U SERIOUS?

  487. David says:

    lol…fuk off wrighty…make sure you write a good piece bout how Jay Simpson tore the Wigan Defense apart the Way BENTNER CAN NEVER DO!!!

  488. Wrighty7 says:

    So going by that argument David you must think Theo Walcott is shit as well. He is subbed nearly every game mate.

    It doesn’t mean they are shit, its called being saved from BURNOUT!

  489. A says:

    7 starts 5 sub appearances

  490. David says:

    A i here you mate…Heskey is a much better player by far than Bentner…he is stronger in the air…and he fights for every ball and wins almost every challenge…that kind of contribution is invaluable and you are right on that one but im just not exactly getting what Bentner adds to the team like u said except for one…”holding the ball” argument and a 50 yard pass….ok…great but thats not reason enough to be an Arsenal starting 11

  491. David says:

    Cut me some slack wrighty…lol….”trio” walcott is class you said he was Shit not me!

  492. avenell says:

    Was Heskey as good as Bendtner at 20??

  493. avenell says:

    Was Heskey as good as Simpson at 19???
    Don’t want to take sides ;)

  494. David says:

    Was Bentner alive when Heskey was 20?

    Is Bentner as good as Benzema? for his club? Arent they both 20?

  495. A says:

    Bendtner is incredibly strong in the air, he won pretty much every single header and flick on against vidic and ferdinand, no small feat. The 50 yard passes and other vision and passing aility will mean he’ll get a hell of a lot of assists when given a decent run in the team.
    At the moment in front of goal he’s still learning the trade, and getting confidence playing for arsenal, which is why he’s only a squad player and a fit ade will start ahead of him, but once he gets a couple and gets some confidence the goals will start flowing, and then he’ll offer those as well as assists and strength, work rate etc that was so invaluable against man utd

  496. Rasputin says:

    I’ve just got in from the game and I can’t believe what you guys have ben arguing about.

    My only beef is that we were treated to a magnificent display of positive attacking football where a team of raw youngsters beat a pretty much full strength Wigan side and I would say about 30% of ‘supporters’ left before the end. The least we could do after such a display would have been to cheer them off the pitch. Shame on those of you who didn’t feel these youngster deserved our recognition.

  497. Wrighty7 says:

    I never said Theo was shit, I was just going by your way of thinking David.

    Lets just say we agree to disagree on the situation. We quite clearly have different opinions on Bendtner so I extend my hand for a virtual hand shake to end the argument.

    Do you accept?

  498. A says:

    They are both 20 yes David, who said anything about Benzeama?! Benzeama is probably better at the moment, but then Benzeama is probably the best 20 year old striker in the world…. I’m actually very surprised Benzeama’s goalscoring record isn’t better than it is given the shocking standard of the league he plays in, I expected it to be much better.

    Heskey was good at 20, not as good as Bendtner, though offering something different, but much much better than Simpson

  499. David says:

    ok so i got

    1. holding the ball

    2. wins air balls against united (even tho it never amounted to nothing)

    3. 50 yard passing.

    1. trips over the ball

    2. gives it away cheaply

    3. horribly finishing

    i say we are dead even…so a draw then?

  500. Wrighty7 says:

    Never mind Rasputin! I’m done now mate.

  501. avenell says:

    Have Lyon got any players as good as Fabregas???

    It’s all if’s and but’s We are NOT going to buy Benzema for £30 million FULL STOP ..
    but our team CAN beat Lyon 9 times out of 10.

  502. A says:

    would be cool if we did though, if only we’d sold ade for 30, or just swapped with lyon!

  503. David says:

    very well Wrighty…handshake it is….

    U just make sure you write the article cuz simpson performed brilliantly…better than Bentner has thas for sure!

  504. A says:

    lyon have noone as good as cesc, but there’s noone as good as cesc in the french league! the best player was nasri, and we’ve signed him!

  505. avenell says:

    That’s the problem … this is the real world Wenger works in…
    NOT the championship manager blog world we do.. :)

  506. Wrighty7 says:

    I’m off to bed…………Nighty nite Grovers.

    Keep it Goonerish…………………..

  507. Rasputin says:

    No offence Wrighty – it was just such a great entertaining evening, I can’t find any negatives. Although I think we could have played even better.

    Ramsey and Randall gave the ball away when they tried to be too clever and Song had his usual scattering of scary moments. LJW wasn’t at his best. Vela was great but should have scored two and Merida, once again didn’t live up to expectation. But hey -we won 3 nil and the kids had fun……

  508. Seb says:

    wow the last two hours on here have been shit lol

  509. Thomas Vik says:

    Compairing Heskey to Bendtner? That’s almost out of order.Bendtner is not a target man,he is best as the second striker,same role as van persie basically.. he has skills Heskey couldn’t dream of,he is a much more complete fotballer,with a vision for the play.i seriously doubt that Heskey ever could make 50 yard,like the one for Adebayor or the backheel to Theo

  510. Thomas Vik says:

    I meant to write 50 yard pass of course

  511. VforGunners says:

    I give you one more thing to your list so that you can win over wrighty, David:
    4) A striker standing on the opponent’s goal line to block his teammate’s shot
    If not with that, we would probably have been the EU champion last year.
    So cheers to all of your “50 yard pass”…

  512. ethangunner says:

    rasp

    i agree … it was a good display .. without doubt..
    it only hi-lites that jack – theo – vela all need a game ..
    i wasn’t too convinced by fabianski ! and i have been recently sticking up for him over almunia .
    i might have to reconsider my evaluation .. its nothing that a few more games wouldn’t fix ..
    but it shows me we really are a bit fragile in that area with an injury or 2 ..

    even simpson played well .. gibbs always looks good too me ! he gets back on defense and
    in all honesty if he keeps improving like this clichy should be afraid !

    Over all some good players showed there skill last night and they should be commended !

    i think wenger should get more experience into the frey when tougher competition comes up ..
    it would be a serious mistake not to take every comp seriously .. thats my biggest complaint .

  513. Confidentgoner says:

    Folks, AW has been reading this blog or is it just my imagination? From the ManU game our defending has been as a team and it showed yesterday as well. He needs to keep it up, that is the team defending. Was also impressed with our back two of JD and Song, as well as Ramsety, Jack, Gibbs. While Vela is proven, Jay simpson is fast and direct, which is good.

    On the Bentner Simpson debate , It is a a tough one. each player comes with his baggage and I am curious to know Simpson’s scoring record for the Reserves

  514. ethangunner says:

    Confidentgoner

    NAR .. our defending has got easier because we are never in the defensive 3rd !
    we are scoring 1st , because without ade the team plays fluent football !
    like ive always said the best form of defense is offense !

    if your always in your opponents attacking 3rd its a pretty easy job for the defenders and goalies isnt it ?!

  515. ethangunner says:

    no 35 missed chances a game – no 10 offsides a game … we can make use of our chances and put teams on the back foot ! i love , hopefully he will take over rosickys mantle and rosicky can come back too the team ! ..

    if we lost ade we might have a chance at the title !

  516. ethangunner says:

    i dont there is any debate over simpson and bendtner .. both are not ready ..
    both have potential .. and nik B has a bit more experience ..
    ( a few more regular games anything can happen but currently)

    but the bottom line is neither should be counted upon this season ..

  517. Seb says:

    From http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/-it-was-a-remarkable-combination-of-things-

    “On fielding the same XI in December’s Premier League fixture against the Lactics…”

    What hope is there when the official bloody site can’t even spell an opponent’s nickname properly… muppets

  518. Confidentgoner says:

    One thing I know is that Cesc or any other player cannot hold us to ransome. We have potent replacements!!!!

  519. Evo in Oz says:

    glory days another win!

  520. Evo in Oz says:

    i love The Arsenal to the max!

    great highlights! how good is Ramsey and what about Whilshere too!

    Vela is the bloody ducks nuts, that lad is quality! How dismayed was kirkland when he chipped him for the goal? Kirklands face was priceless after it went in! Kanu jnr and toure certainly liked the look of the goal sitting up in the stands!

  521. rico01 says:

    Morning all

    ethan – your comment re Nik and Simpson is spot on, i think i may be a little guilty of starting the ‘mass debate’ last night, when i said i rated simpson. It went down hill from there.

    Both players are not yet the finished article, and right now, none of us know for sure if they ever will be. Also, both playe very different style of football.

    I find it sad when a person (simpson) gets his football judged by his level of intelligence, i dont ever recall Einstein being able to play football !!
    Dont we judge footballers on their ability to play the game, regardless….

    Simpson imho, potentially, has an Ian Wright about him, he finished well last night, especially his second, good placement, rather than ‘hit the ball as hard as possible’ which has been suggested.

    Nik is not my favourite player, but i dont forget how young he is, Simpson is only 19, who knows, he may just be a really good old fasioned No9 over the next few years..

  522. Confidentgoner says:

    ethan,

    Agree on Bent and Simp, it really is a pointless debate.

    I am looking forward to when Ade will improve his offside record, but I know you don’t rate him at all, which is different from all the clubs that came for him last summer, his goal record last season and what defenders /managers said about him. It is a personal prerogative to hate or like a player. Personally am excited about all the talents we have as Arsenal and it shows that with proper handling, we can beat any team. I observed that Ade had his best days when playing with dudu, after dudu’s injury he lost form.

    I think, yesterday our defense was good and resolute. A lot of play was in our half, but almost all our goals were from counter attack, and efficient use of the ball. Had Vella passed to Simpson at the 13th minute, rather than try to beat the goal keeper, the tally will have been more.

  523. Evo in Oz says:

    hi guys, care to enlighten me on your debate last night, i missed it, just interested in the crux of it all!

    Apparently Simpson has been with us since he was 9 years old, they must be keen on him then!

  524. kelsey says:

    morning rico,

    I agree with you about intelligence level of players beckham being a good example.You quite rightly say simpson took the second goal really well,it was not as simple as it looked.ian wright took until his mid twenties to achieve his potential.

    Ramsey at 17 is pure class and has that vital but rare ingrediant, vision.

    young jack in his baggy shorts looks like something out of the fifties but he and ramsey will come through.

    vela showed yet again,he is not a one trick pony,exquisite lob,but give kirkland some credit he was obviously in discomfort the whole game and yet pulled off some great saves.

    randall to me is an enigma,he has a strong physical presence gets stuck in but his passing needs to improve.

    fab,made an excellent double save but my gut feeling he is not ready yet at 24,young for a goalie and needs to improve his handling.punching position on crosses.

    our luck we might get stoke away or spurs/liverpool away. :)

  525. Seb says:

    some people said Bendtner isn’t good enough and Simpson is
    some people said Simpson isn’t good enough and Bendtner is
    some people said neither of them are good enough and never will be
    some people said they are both good leave them alone
    some people thought it was all getting a bit silly after a while ;)

  526. Evo in Oz says:

    thanx Seb, good highlights. cheers mate

    Ramsey is awesome!

    Vela is potentially my next player on my next strip i purchase! i want to get in early!

  527. rico01 says:

    morning kelsey, seb, evo – great game, great win :)

  528. rico01 says:

    morning cg

  529. Seb says:

    It really was a joy to watch rico, in fact it made me think about whether it would be enough to have our teams playing football like this even if we didn’t win anything. Probably not, but I know I would still end up feeling very proud of our club.

    I think respect for Arsene is due, we may have had a shaky start, but you can imagine if you saw these players every day in training, you really would believe in them, rather than start panic-buying.

  530. Confidentgoner says:

    Evo,

    Bendner v Simpson

  531. peachesgooner says:

    Morning all

    Our team of babies certainly did themselves proud last night. Arsenes favourite expression of ‘playing without the hand-brake’ comes to mind as they tore into Wigan with gay abandon – can I say that?

    I’ve just read back the comments from last night Simpson/Bendtner and what I would say is that Vela was going at some pace down the wing and that it was the speed of Simpsons run that enabling him to be in the right place to score from Velas pass.

    Not more or less inteligent IMO just faster!

  532. Pedro says:

    NEW POST!

  533. Evo in Oz says:

    morning rico and all

    how good was Ramsey barnstorming run with the stepover routine in the 2nd half where he ended putting the throughball onto gibbs’ boot…they was class!

    happy to see Merida get a run and play well also!

  534. Rasputin says:

    The thing I liked about Simpson was his desire, workrate and the fact that when we were streaming forward he put himself in the danger zone.

    How many times over recent years have you seen our wide players streaking down the wings only to olook up and see nobody int the middle. We just don’t seem to make near post runs for tap-ins (freddie wasn’t too proud and scored a lot of goals bundling the ball into the net).

    Simpson doesn’t have the silky skills or trickery. He is strong and direct and I don’t know if that fits in with the Arsene model. All I will say is that analysis of great teams usually shows a blend of creativity, strength, resilience and clinical finishing.

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