1 billion watching today, so Arsene, show the world you’re right.

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Arsene Wenger has come in for fierce criticism this week for his comments about Stoke, their tactics and their tackles, but they won and we lost, I watched Arsenal TV last night and they thought Ade’s tackle was worse than all the Stoke ones, the only thing that was wrong with the Stoke game was your team selection boss, so get over it an move on.

The boss also had this to say ‘I don’t believe I will buy in January, I trust my players strengths and intelligence – it’s now up to them to show it’ – so that’s it for the season, he’s said no one’s coming in so this team is it, he can’t complain about inexperience or depth of squad or injuries, he has the opportunity to strengthen and he’s said no, so we need to hope this team grows up in a hurry and we need to get behind them today.

Wednesday’s team was more like it, and although we didn’t win, I thought we looked more solid, Johan and Ramsey in, looked good and more of a fit, Nasri had a bad game and Cesc wasn’t on fire but if Robin had had some luck and Fernabache didn’t play like a girls team with 11 behind the ball it would have been different.

Today we see the return of the Mancs 12th man referee Webb.

He gave them a penalty against us last season when we lost 2-1 and he gave them a scandalous free kick for their winner after evra dived.

He gave a pen to Middlesbrough when we lost 2-1.

He gave a penalty to blackburn at the Grove and although we won 6-2 the pen made it 1-0 to them.

He was ref that sent Kolo off in the Carling Cup final.

He was the linesman who got Sol sent of against the Mancs in 2003.

These facts were supplied by fellow Grover Alan so thanks a lot my friend, an interesting read.

I think if we run at them and shut them down (do a Stoke, Fulham and Hull) combine that with our passing game and add the finishing skills of Nasri, Theo, Diaby, Bendtner and Ramsey, I think we can stuff them, I really do, if we don’t do the above though, we could get stuffed.

So let us the fans be our 12th man, let’s stay in our seats until the end, get back in them for the start and sing our bollocks off (same for the girls but obviously forget the testi reference) let our team know we love them and are behind them and I think you’ll see the Arsenal we all love, hopefully there will be the added bonus of seeing shrek get sent off for gobbing off, but don’t hold your breath.

Arsene you do your bit, don’t pick Song, play Djourou, make substitutions early if we need them and none if we don’t.

We’re with you Arsene and we’re behind our team, we’ll show you today, get Nasri fired up, let Theo loose, give Ramsey the nod and unleash hell!

Fabianski

Sagna Djourou Gallas Clichy

Theo Cesc Ramsey Nasri

Diaby

Bendtner

Vela on as sub.

My team would attack them from the off, if I wanted to be more cautious I would drop Diaby back into midfield or put Kolo in as the holding player.

3-1 Arsenal Grovers, I won’t be around today and nor will Pedro, so you’ll need to be alert to trouble, don’t forget it’s the weekend.

870 Responses to “1 billion watching today, so Arsene, show the world you’re right.”

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  1. Pat

    Ladies don’t know football, period.

    Queen, you still failed to tell me why Cesc is a better player than Xavi or Iniesta. Stop avoiding the question.

    There is a reason cesc rarely plays for Spain.

  2. David

    i dnt understand how anyone can call Cesc Shit…when he outplayed the whole United midfield…anyways enough of the madness

    COME ON YOU GUNNERS!!!! WHAT A WIN TODAY!!!

  3. peachesgooner

    Pat – What a ridiculous statement to make, Do you mean that you can’t get any ladies to agree with your opinions?

  4. Evo in Oz

    fuck off with your villareal shite – we already fucked those cunts off out of the CL 2 seasons ago. there only good player is Pires!

    Get on the Arsenal bandwagon bro, you’re the only one off at the minute. we;ll see you in May when we are challenging for the title and you are supportinig some spanish horse shite that no cunt cares about!

  5. Pat

    I’m not a Barca fan either, dumb woman. I know more about any league and its players than most of you here. Back up your statements and give me some reasoning.

    Whenever you need to know about a youngster we’re after, just ask me. I probably know his game.

    You have no idea how much football I watch lady.

    Le Championatte
    PL
    La Liga
    Serie A
    Bundesliga
    Argentine Clausura
    Polish League
    and I used to watch Russian, but the games are much too early here in the States

    I apologise for any anti lady comments I made as I am a real twat.

  6. Rasputin

    Sorry peaches – I can’t take him seriously. As soon as someone defeats one argument, he starts on something even more outrageous. Ladies don’t know football…….. shame his mum didn’t know about birth control!

  7. Evo in Oz

    how old is this cunt -15?

    Pat – are you happy we won? i am over the moon and i will be having a few beers shortly to celebrate!

    you – im sure you’ll be getting out the sports almanac to look up some piss stats about some fucker playing in uzebeckistan or some fucked up place that no bastard has heard about?

    Get some support for Cesc and the Arsenal mate!

  8. David

    maybe u juss need a girlfriend pat…too much football is not good…especially when ure watching the Bundesliga league….u want to shoot ureself..im suprised u didnt say MLS.

    Cesc is 21…what did Xavi and Iniesta do at 21?

  9. Rasputin

    Let’s all agree. Pat can’t even spell his own name – there’s an ‘R’ in prat you silly boy.

    Now go to bed with a glass of milk and you can play all night with your inflatable Hleb doll. But don’t come on here insulting the ladies or anyone else just because they don’t share your opinion and remember that threatening to ‘destroy someone’ is serious and Geoff and Pedro know your email address.

  10. Pat

    For your information Evo, I am neutral in all leagues except the PL. I love Arsenal and have for about 10 yrs. I’m turning 18 this year, so I’m relativaly young.

    My 2 favorite players were always Pires and DB10.

    I’m a neutral fan in every league I watch. I love football, I live for it and I know a lot about it.

    I started supporting Villareal when a certain Pires signed for them.

    Bandwagon? You assume too much. I watch my football. Whats wrong with that?

    Spanish shit, you say?

    Barca look unstoppable this year and they’re honestly the only team I’m worried about in the CL draw.

    Villareal aren’t shit. Cazorla, Senna, and Fernandez could make the grade at Arsenal. Obviously they don’t have the money that english clubs do.

  11. peachesgooner

    Well said Rasputin – you’ve defended the ethos of the site admirably and the honour of the ladies. Geoff and Pedro will be proud.

    D’you think he’s gone?

  12. Evo in Oz

    Gnarley – im just waiting with baited breath for 12.30 to roll around mate!

    Pat – happy to have a civilised discussion, but you need to apologise to any ladies and sort out your comments.

    we’re all on the same team here and im sure there’s people here who want to compare players, etc with you, but not in the way your’re doing it!

  13. Pat

    I support Arsenal and all their players, even Eboue and Song despite how you all bash them. And I could criticize my players when they play bad. I support them, but I’ll still say what I think about how they play.

    BUT, I will not let 1 result sway my opinion on this team. We ALWAYS play well against the top 4. We played well today and these games could always go both ways.

    What I’m saying is: Lets see how we do against Villa next week. If we look convincing and win, then MAYBE I’ll believe that we’re back on track.

  14. Rasputin

    Don’t care peaches, I’m not going to waste my typing skills on him any more. I shall sleep contented tonight and hope all you gifted lady arsenal fans do the same. Nite nite.

    WE BEAT THE MANCS – COME ON YOU REDS…………………….

  15. gnarleygeorge9

    When The arsenal win, Rainy days & Mondays never get me down. Mind you shifting this 2 metres of concrete sand sitting in my drive could stuff me though ;)

  16. Pat

    Well, generally speaking, men do know more about football then ladies.

    BUT, I apologize Queen, if you’re still here.

    And Barcelona are not Arsenal wannabes, whoever said that. If anything, Barca have been playing the beautiful game far longer than us. Don’t disrespect a team with such a great philosophy.

  17. peachesgooner

    Goodnight all

    What a great day – I love football and I love being a Gooner

    Play nicely boys, see ya later

  18. Pat

    Evo, last year we struggled at home, I think. Nik got a late equalizer.

    1st half of the Villa away game was our best 1st half of last season. Thats when Hleb got injured though.

    BUT, no Senderos this year! So no own-goal hehe

    I’m worried about Gabby. He’s looked great this season.

  19. avenell

    So why do barcelona want Petit, Overmars, Gio, Henry, Ade, Hleb, and the main man Fabregas then, if they don’t want to be like Arsenal?

    Whoever asked!!!

  20. Wrighty7

    I’m not digging anyone out here but ladies should be treated with respect,

    IT’S CALLED BEING A GENTLEMAN!!!!!!!!

    Listen,

    At the end of the day, Arsenal have beaten MANURE, lets enjoy the moment and stop being petty.

    We all love Arsenal, we SHOULD be fucking happy, SO LETS BE HAPPY!!!!!!!!

  21. Evo in Oz

    hahaha….Celtic for me bro. after living in glasgow for a few years i had to pick a team and it was The Bhoys….no religious followings for me, i chose them because a good mate has scottish parents and he followed them, so i jumped on board!

  22. Pat

    avenell, because they were damn good players!!

    But, the Arsenal system makes a lot of players seem better than they really are. I don’t think there is a better club with a higher team chemistry than Arsenal. We have our blips against the physical teams though.

    Evo, Dinho was out of it at Barca. It hurt watching him last year because, as a football fan, it kills me to see a player of such quality playing sooooo badly like he did last year. It was a good move for both Barca and Dinho. Dinho needed a new challenge after winning everything possible with Barca. Injuries didn’t help either.

    And Henry was played on the wing a lot because, imo, Rijkard isn’t as good a manage as most think. He was the beneficiary of a great team, an amazing team with superstars.

    What I like about Barca is the number of homegrown players they have. Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol are the heart of that team that never stops beating.. Iniesta isn’t even a Cule, but he’s penciled in as a future captiain. Every captain in barca’s history has been a Cule, so it’ll be a BIG change if Iniesta will be the first non-Cule.

    For those interested, Pep Guardiola was a Cule and he captained Barca during the 90s. He is played Cesc’s position and also wore the #4. He also happens to be Cesc’s idol. Now that he’s manager of Barca, keeping hold of cesc will be even harder…unless we win trophies of course.

  23. gnarleygeorge9

    Wrighty

    Nearly time for the replay of Arsenal v manure, 12.15 am, if you don’t mind me replying for him.

  24. Pat

    But we might be getting another barca youngster soon. Busquets rejected a contract offer from Barca yesterday, I read.

  25. avenell

    To be honest Pat I don’t give a fuck!!!

    If Arsenal ended up in the southern counties leaguewhatever it is now) I’d still only support Arsenal.

    39 years of my life… no second teams,, no spanish teams Theres only one ARSENAL!!!

  26. gnarleygeorge9

    Did anyone get the feeling that it looked like the old Mr Wenger patrolling the by line. More animated in a positive way. That sort of body language can only be great for everyone that follows The Club.

  27. Pat

    I don’t rate Puyol either, anymore. His best year turned out to be the year they beat us in the final.

    And I also believe there was tooo much hype with Sergio Ramos. I’d take Sagna over him anyday of the week.

  28. Evo in Oz

    next big games are the CL against Dynamo at home and then away to the other scum!

    need wins in both those games!

  29. Pedro

    Just finished my match report… how refreshing to write a nice one!

    Have a good night Grovers… it posts at 0900… I wont be about much, so enjoy!

  30. Wrighty7

    PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ooooo ooooooo ooooooo tooooooooooooo beeeeeeeeeeee oooooo toooooo beeeeee a GOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEERRRRRR!!!!!!!!

  31. ethangunner

    pat

    Hleb and Cashley were both great, despite what they said/did to the Arsenal. Judge them on their skill/importance to the team, not as the people they are.

    DEAD RIGHT ! if people buy into the coronation street of football , that’s there problem !
    ive never criticized ade for anything other than his performances , yet theres plenty of ammo i could
    use for him off the pitch ! but i dont think thats right !

    who cares if anyone is a cunt off the pitch , you dont have to live with them ! only watch them for 90 minutes once a week !

    Choy as for scoring goals .. who was your icon picture of all last week ?
    your boy ade ! WHO CREATES FUCK ALL !

    its people like hleb – cesc – theo – even eboue who give him the goals !
    he does nothing from an offensive stand point to command regular goals !
    and neither does bendnter !

    but all pre season everyone was worried about the defense !
    we have experience there and its sorting itself out !

    arsenal is a spare REAL winger a DM and 2 strikers off being a prefect team !

    we have far too many defenders wanting to come forward and give support too a failing attack !
    once our strikers do there job everyone else can and ive been saying that since day zip !

    NASRI played well last night MoM !
    the team spirit when they needed to stand up and be counted was superb !
    only in the last 15 minutes after the subs did we look a bit shaky …
    theo needs to stay on the pitch til the end !

    other than that a fucking excellent display ..
    its a long way to go , playing some average sides is our downfall !
    and thats totally different from last season …
    last season we put all the easy games to bed ..
    and had trouble with the top 4 … im not sure which seasons thinking id prefer !

  32. Evo in Oz

    Im glad Sagna is fit, he was a great purchase by the way!

    Clichy is the ducks nuts – running at top speed for 90 mins, he must have a shit load of petrol in the tank that lad!

    Goal Nasri! woooooooooooooooooooooo hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  33. Pat

    Before he joined us, he was in the Ligue 1 team of the season for 2 straight years. Amazing that we got him so cheap and with such little competition from other clubs.

    I still think Wenger should have fought harder to sign Ben Arfa and M’Bia.

  34. Pat

    No one shows more heart than Clichy. No one has his attitude either. He has 4 lungs and 2 hearts.

    Ben Arfa has a history of falling out w/ his own teammates though. Diaby and Benzema to name a few.

  35. Pat

    Berba is an absolute waste of 30 million. You guys here that the Bulgarian FA might kick him off the team because he only ran 2,000 meters their last game? Lazy bastard. Can’t deny the technique he has though.

  36. Pat

    Evo, United don’t touch the ball after the defender heads the corner out. We get about 17-18 passes before scoring. Lovely stuff.

  37. Evo in Oz

    fuck that goal was a cracker!

    He was trying to do the shush (finger up to the mouth indicating quiet down) celebration, however it was too joyous and he had to let it all out!

    oh the joy!

  38. Rob From Aus

    Pat, are u still carrying on? geez mate, no-one gives a cunt about ure sporting knowledge, just enjoy the fact we beat the mancs. And u can like Hleb or whoever but dont shit on other gooners cause they dont share ure views. This is LE GROVE last i checked, not LE-Hleb! anyway im still stoked ans i mite watch the replay on foxsports!

  39. Paulinho

    I’m watching the fight on setanta, screw the dodgy streams :)

    Pat, some great points before. Yes, Hleb is very much in a similar mould to Iniesta. Stats don’t do him justice.

    Don’t worry about Rasputin, he jizzes in his pants and gets a cyber hard-on everytime Peaches and Queen check in. It effects his ability to think clinically and discuss matters with football at the forefront. He’s basically a wind-up so your wasting your luminary observations on him.

    Queen enjoys a good ding-dong though ;)

  40. Pat

    “I am going to be the best in the world,” Robinho told Brazilian magazine Placar.

    “I can do it at Manchester City. I want to be the best in the world, win the World Cup and return to Santos and win the Copa Libertadores.

    “A lot of people believe that is harder here because of the team but I think it’s easier as I am a regular starter. At Madrid I only started important matches.
    —————————————————————————————-

    hahaha. No Mr. Robinho. You didn’t start for Madrid because you were simply not good enough. A manager will usually choose a fit Arjen RObben over you. If only Robben wasn’t so injury-prone. What a player

  41. Evo in Oz

    Kleb is shite- he can dribble like a maniac, but cant shoot to save himself!

    ill take 1000 nasri’s or pires or freddie before 1 kleb

  42. Paulinho

    The fight isn’t on yet, another hour or so.

    Hleb+Nasri, with fabs instigating centrally would have been a treat :)

  43. Evo in Oz

    i could purchase the fight on main event, but i think im going to head to the pub for a few celebratory beers

    ill catch all you good gooners later on!

    I LOVE THE ARSENAL!

  44. Evo in Oz

    2-1. FUCK 6 minutes added on, can we hang on…hahahahah…of course we can!

    fuck i love winning the replay also!

    woooooooooooooooooooo hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

  45. Pat

    What happens when Rosicky gets back?

    Rosicky Denilson Cesc Theo

    I rate Rosicky much higher than Nasri in almost every category, so I wonder what Wenger will do.

    And I really hope we get M’Bia in January. A team of our caliber shouldn’t have Denilson as their CDM.

  46. benno

    imo denilson and cesc were immense defensively today. they were always closing down, hassling and dispossesing the mancs attacks.

  47. ethangunner

    I think we need to dig deeper into reasons why cesc isnt preforming for us ?
    before anyone just puts it down to form, think that he just came back from a EURO win !
    and he played consistently well !

    Ok wenger rested him but he really wasn’t injured as such , just le boss rested him in the same vane he was initially did rest bert last season … until flamini did a form flip ..

    So cesc could of played pre season – we all wanted him too … he didnt and now his form is indifferent for us ..

    So is it the partner ship of hleb – flamini that made him play well last season OR
    is it he does more defensive duties not allowing him to come forward ?

    are his partners just too crap ?
    or is he pelting because he didnt get villa / alonso and secretly given up on us ?

  48. Rob From Aus

    If!!!! Rosicky comes back…..if so it wouldnt make a difference i think… maybe he would bring Nasri into a more central role but i cant see him dropping Nasri 4 Rosicky……..

  49. Evo in Oz

    if sicknote ever gets back that is, you have to presume he wont….despite whats played out in the media, we’re better off presuming he is done and dusted and anything after that is a bonus!

  50. Evo in Oz

    kleb subbed on for 4 goal hero Eto’o in barca game after 75 mins. im sure he would be happy with that. not. wanker!

  51. gnarleygeorge9

    This Xabi Alonso thing just won’t go away. What do you all think of him maybe coming in January. He won’t play CL ofcourse but there is still talk of him leaving Liverwurst. He would be handy in PL games?

  52. Evo in Oz

    Wenger satisfied as critics silenced.

    Phil McNulty – Sport Online chief football writer 8 Nov 08, 06:03 PM

    Arsene Wenger’s face was a study in satisfaction as he reflected on a game that was a victory for his principles as well as his football team.

    Arsenal’s manager has endured a troubling 10 days, with a draw against Spurs and the acrimonious aftermath of a defeat at Stoke City causing previously adoring supporters to openly question him for the first time.

    But, after the Emirates reverberated to the sound of Wenger’s name and Manchester United were beaten, he was able to answer his doubters in typically eloquent fashion.

    Wenger sat tracksuited in the opulence of the Emirates media theatre and admitted he knew what defeat would have meant – but he drew huge pleasure from a win that meant even more.

    If Manchester United had beaten Arsenal, the inquest about his methods and his team would have continued unabated, complete with questions (admittedly ludicrous ones) about whether Arsene’s era had run its course.

    A deserved victory in a magnificent game may not have banished all the doubts – remember Arsenal have lost to Fulham and Hull as well as Stoke this season – but Wenger was given a measure of vindication by an outstanding performance.

    The Emirates was an uncertain place to be before kick-off, with Arsenal fans expressing genuine fears for their understrength team against a United side reinforced by the return of Wayne Rooney and Dimitar Berbatov.

    The contrast could not have been more stark as the final whistle sounded at the end of six minutes of stoppage time and an encounter that was played in gloriously cavalier fashion.

    Faith was restored in Wenger, remember the mantra “Arsene Knows”, and the man himself was able to reaffirm that he had never lost faith in his players.

    He said: “If players have the right quality they will always have the right answers.”

    Wenger’s studied principles still cause heartache for some Arsenal fans, including one poor individual who parked himself alongside the press box shouting “kick it away” for the entire period of stoppage time.

    They were wasted words.

    Arsenal do not do “kick it away” – it was like pitching up at a performance by the Berlin Philharmonic and ordering them to play a selection of Motorhead classics.

    But he and the rest of Arsenal’s fans got their victory and they celebrated in a style that gave the lie to the supposed silence that occasionally falls on the Emirates.

    It was highly charged occasion, with both crowd and players roused by the criticism aimed – some justified – at Arsenal and Wenger since the loss at Stoke.

    Wenger rightly took the opportunity to answer those criticisms but there was never a hint of gloating and he was generous to the defeated Manchester United side.

    There was no getting away from the fact that Wenger saw this as compelling evidence that he will eventually be rewarded for his refusal to bend from his purist stance.

    Why shouldn’t he? It was that good and Arsenal rolled out every quality that makes them such a wonderful team to watch.

    At the heart of the win were two men who may be small of stature but are giants in terms of football ability. The epitome of the Wenger philosophy.

    Cesc Fabregas, helped by the workhorse Abou Diaby, was the creative force, while two-goal Samir Nasri is an indentikit Wenger player.

    Even William Gallas, who is not a natural captain, led by example as he helped repel United’s predictable late surge.

    Wenger knew his captain had been questioned and offered intriguing thoughts on leadership, saying: “I don’t agree any more with people who say you need a leader. Football is so quick that you need shared leadership.

    “The time when centre-backs could just talk is over because the game is too quick. You need 11 leaders and everyone can take the initiative at the right moment.”

    Another Wenger principle and an admirable one but surely Arsenal would have benefited from a leader at Stoke, a symbol in the mould of Chelsea’s John Terry or Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard?

    This was not a day when Arsenal’s players needed lifting. They will come though and this is when a flaw in Wenger’s theory may be uncovered.

    We know Arsenal, inspired and lavishly gifted, can beat anyone on their day and even Sir Alex Ferguson can have no real complaints about defeat.

    But the questions I posed in a previous blog can only be fully answered once those subdued, almost resigned, displays like those we saw at the Britannia Stadium are banished even further into the background and do not impinge on their title chances.

    Manchester United, and in Ferguson they have a manager whose footballing principles are as deeply ingrained as Wenger’s, came to play, to attack and were beaten.

    Arsenal must cope with those contrasting fierce, physical wars of attrition that will come in the months ahead if they are to last the title course better than they have in recent years.

    Wenger, however, deserves huge admiration for the way he insists his team goes about its business – although Stoke manager Tony Pulis might be keen to know his thoughts on the otherwise outstanding Gael Clichy’s awful tackle on Cristiano Ronaldo.

    And after the stress of recent days, Wenger had every right to bask in a success achieved in the style he enjoys, and a public confirmation of his insistence that Arsenal will challenge for the Premier League title.

    United played their part in the spectacle, but there was a lack of cutting edge when it mattered – a strange charge to level at a side with Rooney, Berbatov and Ronaldo on the pitch and Carlos Tevez and Ryan Giggs arriving later.

    And it will be a source of concern to Ferguson that United have visited their three main rivals – Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal – already this season and come away with only one point.

    But this day belonged to Wenger, Arsenal and their supporters, who threw their full weight behind their depleted team and proved beyond question that the Emirates can generate an electric atmosphere.

    This was never an Arsenal crisis but questions were rightly posed. They delivered a performance that went some way to answering them.

  53. choy

    morning all..

    ethan.. just supporting the lad, he is not a creative player.

    we were discussing about hleb and nasri. how the hell did ade come into the picture?

  54. Geoff

    Morning all, boy I enjoyed that but his Song substitution almost backfired, I thought Denilson had his best game and Samir paid us back, but Bendtner’s finishing was shit.

  55. ethangunner

    choy

    not surprised there ! the midfield are still playing it in to him but he is now receiving the ball further out
    and not prepared (or capable) of pulling the trigger from there !
    he would rather pass off ! I remember several times shouting at him to shoot FFS !

    Dont get me wrong he has improved his game a little this season ..
    His over all play has improved .. but i dont think we really need him and bendnter..
    he is not a proven clinical striker that this team requires ..

    his performance and bendtners are just as ineffective , just look at last night …

    Thank god for nasri ! nasri should be adapted into a strikers role !
    he could be the NEW TH14 !

    im sure wenger is thinking about it …
    but then we would be screwed for a Left winger again !

  56. ethangunner

    i tell ya what that Rafael had a great little cameo , and what a shot on him for a RB !
    It only proves to me fergie only buys youth if they are going to be super stars ..
    no taking a punt on songs – senderos’es etc…

    i would like wenger to review his youth policy ..
    and dont accept sub standard calculated risks into the team

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