So nice to hear Arsenal old boy Robert Pires is saying our kids are like ripening fruit and this year they will win the title, cheers Bobby!
Arsene Wenger says Aragones is no racist, well I don’t know him and I wasn’t there at the Henry/Reyes incident but you can’t called people black bastards and not expect to be called a racist, my advice there Luis, move on, keep your head down and as I said to someone yesterday, chuck the shovel away.
My arse is a kipper was sarcasm, because if Aragones is not a racist, then my arse can be a kipper, when Ron Atkinson commented on a chav once, he was banned from commentating, when Rodney Marsh said he thought a Tsunami was the Newcastle fans he got fired from Sky in the commercial break, so when Aragones said what he said he should have been tin tacked on the spot and the Spanish FA should have been thrown out of the World cup for the abuse that Cole and Wright Phillips got in Spain (I know, I know).
You can’t have a one rule for them and a one rule for us system, if you do, then my arse becomes that kipper. Quack, quack (I can’t do a kipper noise, quack will have to do)
I watched the greatest fans in the world last night at St. James’s Park and there must have been a problem with the crowd as there were empty seats everywhere, it can’t have been the fans because as everyone says, they are the worlds best.
The fact that we get 56,000 for a reserve team match means nothing, they are the best, despite their accents, perhaps there was wet paint on the seats and they couldn’t sit on them, I don’t know, what do you think?
Tonight we dine in hell and I expect nothing other than a win. I think we should start with Bentner and Robin and play 4-4-2, but I won’t hold my breath, Nasri is injured but don’t expect Vela, it will be RVP out left and Eboue will take over from Theo, who will be benched and Ade alone up front.
I hope like hell he won’t be and that Eboue Djourou Silvestre and Clichy form the back line, with Diaby Cesc Theo and Vela in the middle and Bendtner and Robin up top.
No Song please, I watched the reserves last night and having watched them before, these are the people I would try in midfield before Song.
Ramsey, Wilshere, Coquelin, Bischoff, Randall (yes Randall) Lansbury Dunne or Thomas, if any of you watch the reserves you’ll all see that this lot are better than him, so why oh why does he get picked?
No more on Song, I think we’ll pull off a 2-1 or better tonight and that Diaby will give us that much needed bite in midfield we’ve lacked, but he must play the flair players in Vela and Theo, but will he?
Have a great day Grovers, and remember to vote for your Le Champ! —->
Le Grove is now smart phone compatible!
Pedro
Geoff
October 21, 2008 at 09:09
1st?
October 21, 2008 at 09:09
yeah
October 21, 2008 at 09:10
Juhu
October 21, 2008 at 09:10
nice Franchise….and to think I was gonna type consecutive…………….Silver baby………now let’s do those turks in……… (no pun)
October 21, 2008 at 09:11
Good going Franchise! tough one Iceman.
October 21, 2008 at 09:11
Juhu?
October 21, 2008 at 09:14
Shite
October 21, 2008 at 09:15
Geoff I agree 100% with u about Song. The guy looks too lethargic to play any position not even in goal. The guy was 80% responsible for the first goal (denilson 20%). He saw pinnear or whatever he’s called run into the gap he created and he couldn’t even be asked to close him down. How about the chance that ‘Yuck’ had in the second half. The guy isn’t good enough period
October 21, 2008 at 09:17
Franchise, have you watched the reserves? Coquelin looks impressive and better.
October 21, 2008 at 09:17
iceman its just an expression my german missus says all the time
October 21, 2008 at 09:18
Next time Geoff………..I’m gonna stick my neck out and say 3-1…………
October 21, 2008 at 09:20
Oh k….coz it means UP in a certain language…………
October 21, 2008 at 09:20
Good call Iceman, the was my second score and 4-1 my third!
October 21, 2008 at 09:21
Coquelin is the man Geoff. I saw his first game I think it was during the emirates cup. The guy is a legend to be. He’s energy level is Flamini like. I think he could be our Anderson. His first goal for the reserves I cant remember what team it is was amazing
October 21, 2008 at 09:22
Morning everyone!
Great post Geoff… Aragones isn’t a racist… he’s just old! haha!
Fener have been crap thus far… but that means nothing! They have Guiza who looked quite tasty this summer and they have Carlos. I reckon we’ll do them though!
Talk shite reckon Song instead of JD… that will be a real shame…
Anyone who wants 1 ticket to Spurs… e-mail me! It’s £66.
October 21, 2008 at 09:22
So is it Alumina for skipper then?
October 21, 2008 at 09:24
No… Geoff’s ass is a kipper Iceman, you misread.
October 21, 2008 at 09:25
If we’ve got a no nonsense taking back 4. Then we could play ne1 in midfield. Like u Geoff I’m also a firm believer that the ’sittin in fron tof the back 4′ is overrated. The barca team that won the double had one of the tiniest midfield in Europe in 2005 but they could run for 180 mins and boy could they pass.
October 21, 2008 at 09:26
Last post 9.25am I meant if we’ve got………
October 21, 2008 at 09:26
Geoff just for today anyone who has a bad game is a headless turkey
Just a quick word about racism in spainish football.You are absolutely right about the comments above yet when la liga matches are played with black players one rarely hears abuse.Hamilton got it in Barcelona,I think it is more of an anti english thing,which is strange as spain relies very heavily on the £sterling. The moroccans are treated like scum,over here and there are comparitively few black people living here.
October 21, 2008 at 09:27
Cheers Pedro…..missed that one………can i blame the Tuesday blues?
October 21, 2008 at 09:29
I think its time Wenger gives Ade a rest. It would probably give him the kick he needs. It might help if we can get a more balanced midfield.
October 21, 2008 at 09:32
Almunia is our leader.
October 21, 2008 at 09:33
24th!
October 21, 2008 at 09:34
Pedro..where can i watch the game LIVE….tried sopcast …TVU…but did’nt work…what channel do i look for
October 21, 2008 at 09:36
Wrighty! welcome to early morning blogging.
October 21, 2008 at 09:37
Back in a while all!
October 21, 2008 at 09:37
morning all…
here harry
http://arsenalvlog.blogspot.com/
October 21, 2008 at 09:40
Good post,
I think it’s time for Ade to get splinters in his arse. BENCH HIM. He seems so disinterested this season, not even half the player of last season.
I don’t think his technique is the best but he always worked hard for the team, he isn’t even doing that now!
You know why? Because he’s got his pay-rise and he feels he has made it. What he must remember is the likes of Henry did it year-in and year-out, not just for one season.
We should never have given him that pay-rise. Not after one good season. Arsenal should have waited another year, made him earn it. If he didn’t like it, fuck him, sell him.
I’m afraid we’ve got a big time charlie on our hands and we will never get offered the reported sum of £25m again for him.
October 21, 2008 at 09:41
Morning Geoff!
October 21, 2008 at 09:41
too bad
i wanted to be in top 10
October 21, 2008 at 09:42
Wrighty
ur right son..
ade has not been good lately
he needs time with togolese lassies
October 21, 2008 at 09:44
Justin.tv is always pretty good Harry! Get on their earlier and search for a stream and you wont be disappointed!
October 21, 2008 at 09:45
I’ve been bigging up Coquelin for some time now but I wouldn’t throw him into the first team. I totally disagree with ur assessment of Song, otherwise a nice article. You seem to have an ethan-like view of Ade there mate! If we play one man upfront then Ade would be ideal in that formation and I think Theo would play right mid and should expect to see midfield three of Song-Denilson-Fab, Eboue playing right back is a ‘no-brainer’ AW hasn’t got a choice.
October 21, 2008 at 09:47
Great post Geoff…
I agree with the Song thing, he is shit…he was really good at Charlton, but Cygan could be good at Charlton becuase they’re shit..
I hope we stuff the Turks tonight, i think we will…Give Nikki a go and play Vela but God please NO EBOUE at right mid, he has to play Theo…Theo will walk all over the old, withered Roberto Carlos.
Apparently Fener have lost 4 of there first 6 games so we should smash them but they won every single home game in the Champions League last season
(apologies for qouting Arsenal.com about 4 times)
October 21, 2008 at 09:48
Wrighty, Fergie is benching Ronaldo for the same reason!
He didn’t even celebrate his goal the other day!
October 21, 2008 at 09:50
we all know ade will start!
October 21, 2008 at 09:51
Pedro
I’d been rattling away on the other blog i missed the post. Anyway, I voted for spurs for the laughs. In fact, if Song plays ahead of JD20, I might just take a rain check on Arsenal, & start following spurs demise.
October 21, 2008 at 09:52
Thats because Fergie has got bollox Pedro!
October 21, 2008 at 09:54
Does it cost to watch arsenalvlog &/or justin.tv or is it gratus
October 21, 2008 at 09:55
Back four will Eboue Silvester Song and Clichy tonight according to Arseblog who are quoting Wenger.
October 21, 2008 at 09:57
Sorry Gnarley, Geoff published this morning!
October 21, 2008 at 09:57
What the %$&@ has JD20 got to do to get a game
He’s the only defender not to let in a goal.
October 21, 2008 at 09:58
Ok, I’m off to post on Arsenal.com about JD20, will be back soon.
October 21, 2008 at 09:58
Pedro told me JD is getting his SL2000 waxed tonight so he won’t able to make it. Arsene Wenger understands.
October 21, 2008 at 09:59
It was a tasty looking car… much nicer than his Corsa!
October 21, 2008 at 10:01
Pedro, would you take it off his hands? Of CORSA you would! Sorry that was lame, I’ll get me coat……………
October 21, 2008 at 10:04
I’ve killed for less, Wrighty!
October 21, 2008 at 10:04
I think i’ve killed the comments!
October 21, 2008 at 10:05
Sorry QoS!
October 21, 2008 at 10:06
Maybe JD is gonna get a run out in Midfield after all Mr Wenger seems to enjoy moving players around the pitch. The rumours that Ade will go in goal is false though. Clearly he’d still be caught offside every five minutes.
October 21, 2008 at 10:07
Poor joke Wrighty, but I admire you for putting it out there! haha!
So what do you reckon? A win, lose or a draw?
I think it’ll be a spanking… I hope anyway!
October 21, 2008 at 10:07
Hope you don’t mind Pedro/Geoff, I expressed my opinion on arsenal.com & signed my address as Le Grove. Do you think that will carry any weight with Arsene
October 21, 2008 at 10:08
Totally agree QoS, although I’ve heard that Gael Clichy will start at LEFT-BACK!!! Someone in their right position!
October 21, 2008 at 10:09
gday all.
yep definitely a win against the turks, no less. i hope we play 2 strikers from the start and it would be better if RVP wasnt a starter as the temptation for him to stick out on the wing and play the 4-5-1 would too much.
October 21, 2008 at 10:09
A lot of Grovers want Ade to be left back……in the sheds
October 21, 2008 at 10:10
I think we can win. The key is to silence THAT crowd.
The crowd will seperate the boys from the men, or in Arsenal’s case, the boys from the boys!
October 21, 2008 at 10:10
evo do you have a stream for the game?
October 21, 2008 at 10:12
I also check out footycast.com GG they usually have streams.
October 21, 2008 at 10:12
my lineup
Eboue-Sylvest-Song-Clichy
(sub)Theo/Diaby-Cesc-Ramsey(sub if we are winning by 70th minute)/Denilson-Nasri
RVP-Ade/Vela(sub)
I think Diaby can prove to be equally good on the right flank with Eboue as his defensive backup, playing him in the middle opens up a lot of space for our defenders to close in.
October 21, 2008 at 10:13
GG9,
I used to stick up for Ade until my fingertips and vocal cords were sore but after his displays this season and his manner in the summer I cant stand him!
In the sheds??? How about in a shed inside a shed inside another shed then shipped to Barcelona and begging them for 25p!
October 21, 2008 at 10:13
Mandanda…. Song has been at Arsenal for 4 years. He’s not been playing a lot fair enough but he’s been training with the first team for 4 years and in two prmiership games he’s been at fault for two goals. He being in the first team is still as risky as playing ramsey or coquelin who have only been at the club for about 3 months and possibly have more to offer.
October 21, 2008 at 10:13
I want Ade to rot in the stands after we get Dudu back and buy ourselves a decent target man who knows when to shut up.
October 21, 2008 at 10:14
Ramsey and Song comparisio makes me laugh. Song is best at CB position and I like him in that position, better than Gallas at least.
October 21, 2008 at 10:15
Cheers QoS
I hope they work down here, I’ll be scratching about in the early hours on my PC trying to get vision
October 21, 2008 at 10:15
I found a good one as well.
http://www.fcfootballblog.com
You can watch any Premiership game you want, although I wouldn’t advise watching Tottenham, you’ll die of laughing!
October 21, 2008 at 10:17
Wrighty, Spurs have overtaken Little Britain as your best comedy act.
October 21, 2008 at 10:17
Ade will still play
and i can bet he will get 25+ this season too
October 21, 2008 at 10:18
gg9… try that vlogspot and justin.tv
and yes it is free!
October 21, 2008 at 10:20
Song is slow.
He is above average at tackles
poor at passing and runs like an elephant
October 21, 2008 at 10:22
Gnarls
my 2 usual links are:
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/
and
http://www2.myp2p.eu/
October 21, 2008 at 10:23
Speaking of Little Britaincan anyone else see the similarities between David williams & Mark Viduka
http://www.tvscoop.tv/walliams9.jpg & http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/07/07/VIDUKA_narrowweb__300×407,0.jpg
October 21, 2008 at 10:24
Good one evo
October 21, 2008 at 10:25
i just want to score goals
October 21, 2008 at 10:29
Mandanda, I think you misunderstood, I said I think Song is shit, he’s slow, looks like he’s on drugs, gives the ball away and was responsible for us letting in the last two goals against Sunderland and jointly with Denilson against Everton.
He gets the ball and passes the minute he gets it and he does that to either a player with 3 on his back, one of the opposition players or into touch.
He scored one goal in four years and then didn’t realise he’d scored.
Ramsey on the other hand scored a screamer last week against a great England side that boasted 8 premier league players and made 3 others in two games, not to mention bossing the game twice.
Ramsey has also had several assists for us this season with slide rule passes.
If Song then goes into the centre back position, he’s too short and he isn’t a patch on Djourou.
What the fuck has Song done, please make a list, try and make me see what you do!
October 21, 2008 at 10:31
Sorry Dr Whiff, glad you like it!
October 21, 2008 at 10:34
gnarley
myp2p.eu is the best
justin tv tends to get slow on popular games esp champions league games.
You can try hand with sopcast links, they generally work better
October 21, 2008 at 10:34
Apparently Almunia will play in goal
October 21, 2008 at 10:40
yeah my p2p has all the streams you could ever want. you can pick and choose the fastest.
only trouble sometimes is you run into feeds that are in non-english languages for the commentators
October 21, 2008 at 10:40
Whenever somewone writes about Bobby I get a little sad.
I know I’m repeating myself but the memory of him being subbed when Mad Jens had another one of his moments at the CL final pisses mw off.
All he ever wanted was a 2 year deal, not a one year, and the stubborn Wenger couldn’t give him that.
Thank you Bobby – I wish we’d kept you.
October 21, 2008 at 10:40
yeah evo
but mostly those are the ones with best pic quality minus the chinese commentary
October 21, 2008 at 10:44
clichy or cesc should be captain.
5 in midfield would ok if it was…
vela, nasri, fab, diaby, theo. playing like the team that got us to CL final, nasri and theo providing width and pace, nasri and cesc pulling the strings and diaby breaking up everything… including players
October 21, 2008 at 10:46
Arsenal Tom Ive got a name suggestion. Change ur name to ATOM ANT. that wld be cool.
October 21, 2008 at 10:47
yeah it might take a few mins to hack into the best stream, but you can always usually find the sky or itv versions, just need to persist
October 21, 2008 at 10:50
Obviously u dont pay much attention to our manager, as he already said that our backlline will be the same as what ended the match against Everton.
Eboue Song Silvestre Clichy
I dont understand where the Song bashing has come from??! hes a handy player that can play in midfield or defence and do a good job, RB isnt his position and we found that out on the weekend.. is it his fault he was played there?
In midfield Diaby wont start, hes just come back, what i dont want to see is RvP on the left it just dont work! play him just in front of the midfield and Cesc where he belongs in his natural role next to Denilson. Walcott on the right and Nasri/Vela on the left. We need to start playing players where they are most effective and stop trying new positions.. time to push on and find some form.
October 21, 2008 at 10:50
ATOM that is a mouth watering five man midfield they wld pass ne team to oblivion
October 21, 2008 at 10:51
So…look like the line up for tonight will be the same as in the 2nd half against everton huh.
October 21, 2008 at 10:52
not just pass they’ll score a few too
October 21, 2008 at 10:54
franchise… not very likely tho! i think it would work tho… pace on either flanks cesc and nasri are so clever and skillfull they’ll knock the ball around anyone and diaby in there for a bit of strength and size…cheers for the name recomndation!! busy day huh? lol
October 21, 2008 at 10:55
i’m not a big fan of silvestre but i think he’s a defender type which arsenal needs at this time….he can smell danger.
October 21, 2008 at 10:55
Morning everygrover.
I would like to see Nasri, have a start in the role which Hleb played last year, with his shooting ability he would bang in 20 goals a season from there.
Also he would hold up the ball like Hleb and Bergkamp used to do, which is something RVP doesn’t do well enough.
October 21, 2008 at 10:58
i wouldnt call it Song bashing, he just needs to be played in one spot, not all over the pitch. he is CB IMHO
October 21, 2008 at 11:00
i dont like song at CB, i think he’s to short djourou and silvestre all day
October 21, 2008 at 11:00
Chris, I guess the thinking is that right back isn’t the toughest position to play… and Song was woeful. If you can defend, surely playing right back shouldn’t be a problem? Flamini wasn’t a left back but he did an amazing job there a few years ago.
How do you justify saying song is a handy player? He has never demonstrated ability over 10 games? ACN is one thing, doing it week in week out in the Prem is another.
October 21, 2008 at 11:02
avenell it doen’t hurt playing him in LM though. It would be a waste of VP talent if u choose to play Nas as a second striker. Having proven scoring threats all across the front line is something we’ve lacked since the days of the invincibles with pires, berg, henry and ljunberg. We could possibly have something close enough with nasri, VP, Ade(if he can replicate last years form) and Theo. Not to mention the return of the crocks in December Eduardo and Rosicky. the competition for places would be intense
October 21, 2008 at 11:05
im happy to stick with the 2nd half Everton team as long as its 4-4-2 and RVP stays up the pitch near the box if thats the way it goes.
October 21, 2008 at 11:09
In the past I’ve chosen not to draw a quick conclusion on Song cos he never use to get enough playing time but from what I’ve seen in the last few games, he isn’t even ordinary. He is very average adding nothing I mean nothing to the side. If Senderos were around I would say he is our 5th choice CB behind Gallas, Toure, Djourou and Silvestre. The reason he looks a bit ok at CB is cos that is the position on a football pitch that requires the least mobility. having said that a quality CF would eat Song alive he’s just tooooooo lethargic
October 21, 2008 at 11:10
beach bum is captain tonight!
October 21, 2008 at 11:10
Chris go back to my 10.29 comment, if you can answer it I’ll be delighted, if you can’t you’ll understand the Song bashing, and when you watch the reserves you’ll wonder what they must think when they see Song in the starting line up.
October 21, 2008 at 11:12
Well said Pedro and Franchise, he’s as handy as a window cleaner with no windows.
October 21, 2008 at 11:13
ATOM against the Chelsea and Mancs of this world i can see Arsene play a five man midfield…. Even last season when we were more of a balanced side, we often played 4-5-1 against those sides
October 21, 2008 at 11:15
i hate 4-5-1 .. too much respect for the opponents for my liking!
October 21, 2008 at 11:15
i think it will be a 4-5-1 with RVP out wide
its sad i know
but i think my shaman just gave me the Wenger mind scan info
October 21, 2008 at 11:16
Hi Geoff, Franchise and all the anti-Song commentators I don’t think Song is great as a DM but better as a CB, at best he is the poor man’s Makelele but he is 20 and may yet improve. I think its too early to start slagging him off. He is ceratainly the most physically imposing midfielder we have. With him in the side we stood up against those bullies of the north in Bolton and Blackburn and I for one thought a 1-1 draw in eastern Europe was a good result!
I think it was unfair playing him at right back as he lacks the acceleration or pace needed to play in that position but that is not his fault blame AW for that. I think he played quite well in CB.
The thing about blaming players for goals is that you can be entangled in a never ending cycle of blame. For example, you could say that if another player had kept possession better before Song he wouldn’t have had to be dealing with the situation he found himself in those instances you cited him at fault for the goals conceded. I would blame the whole team. Read some time ago that JD’s best position is playing DM in midfield three, I would like to see AW him try in that position.
I think Ramsey is a great potential but at the moment I only see him deputising for Fab not playing alongside him or perhaps coming on with the game won and with 15/10 mins to go. I wld be very uncomfortable with starting Ramsey or Wilshere as I see them as being too young, we have the one of the youngest starting 11 already, they already have the technique required to play at this level but lack the physical attributes and experience required. However, I wouldn’t mind seeing Ramsey as part of a midfield three with FAb and Song.
Lets not forget that since AW started this youth experiment we have not won any trophies so how does start young Ramsey/Wilshere
solve this problem?
October 21, 2008 at 11:17
I hope we dont play it against against Fener tonight i.e. 451
October 21, 2008 at 11:19
Thaksin got 2 years!
October 21, 2008 at 11:20
I watched Arsenal v Everton on this on Saturday, English commentary, high deff. and free!
http://www.iraqgoals.com/en/
October 21, 2008 at 11:21
The champs league match is also on there!
October 21, 2008 at 11:22
Mandanda…. He’s only 20?????? That is not the point. If you’ve got a team which has been referred to a few times as an incubator with a lot of youngsters coming through…. you cannot afford to wait for Song to develop into world class. Already knocking on the door is a 17yr old coquelin. on first impression u can see what he is all about. Also u’ve got Ramsey who is 17…. I might be wrong but those two would not require 4 years to play Arsene football. The only reason Wenger would feature them sparingly is to ‘protect’ them from media hype if their performances are excellent
October 21, 2008 at 11:24
All interesting point Mandanda but this one you make…
‘For example, you could say that if another player had kept possession better before Song he wouldn’t have had to be dealing with the situation he found himself in’
He WAS the player that had the ball before! he received the ball in defence and passed it badly into touch, they got a throw in and from that he failed to tackle the Sunderland player and the player scored.
Using Ramsey on his own without Cesc would not be the same as using them together.
Song may be strong but so am I, and that’s not a good enough reason to be in this team, if it was, I should be going to Turkey tonight because I’m faster than him and a lot stronger.
October 21, 2008 at 11:25
With regards to being a better CB. you could read my comment at 11.09am. He would be at best fifth choice CB. Do u think chelsea would have him in their current squad? not even for the carling cup
October 21, 2008 at 11:27
———–Ade—————-
RVP——————–Walcott
——-Nasri——–Fab
———–Diaby/Denilson
Clichy—-Martian—–Elephant—–Prince Xizor
————–Beach boy
October 21, 2008 at 11:28
He’s not in Djourou’s league and Djourou can’t get in!
October 21, 2008 at 11:30
geoff
are bears stronger than elephants?
October 21, 2008 at 11:31
Ade’s Papa, this one is!
October 21, 2008 at 11:32
elephants can run at 21-25 mph
Grizzly bears can run at over 30 mph
humans have an average 27-30 mph
so there you go !!
hence proved
October 21, 2008 at 11:32
Perhaps, if you had nappy hair Geoff you might indeed be on that plane to Turkey lol. Ok we agree to disagree
Franchise are u seriously saying AW picks a team with the media in mind and not to win a match? That would be a bizarre state of affairs my friend!
Anywayz, I would be happy with a draw tonite and a solid performance to go with it. My team;
almunia
eboue JD/Song Silvestre Clichy
theo Song/JD Fab Denilson RvP/Vela
Ade
Laters grovers
October 21, 2008 at 11:34
And regards ur comment Mandanda that we stood up to the bullies in the north because of him in the side…. We played a blackburn side that is probably the worst organised n the day Ive seen in a long time, Bolton were not that clever too. We beat better sides up north last season with Song not even getting the oppurtunity to warm up.
October 21, 2008 at 11:37
Franchise I would take Flamini (of last season) over Song – most fans would – but the problem is we let him go and did not sign anyone. We’ve blamed AW for that, but Song is what we have and he is not as bad as you guys make him out to be.
October 21, 2008 at 11:37
mandanda
a mid field with song and denilson is sureshot way to ensure a hard fought last gasp draw
i would not bench nasri.
start with nasri and if two goals are scored. get defensive and maybe bring in Song/DJ in midfield
October 21, 2008 at 11:38
mandanda
song is not bad
but right now, i do not see him at the level to battle Semih in midfield
October 21, 2008 at 11:39
ooops i forgot Nasri, I thought he was injured. is he? well spotted Ade’s papa
October 21, 2008 at 11:39
All managers do it. Taking theo to the world cup as a 17yr old that had not even featured for arsenal got him slaughtered by the press and that in turn severly affected his progress, several other young players coming through teams have been used with with discretion cos if u over expose them to the harsh world of the media it might affect them negatively. Mostly two things can happen here actually there
1. The mature enought at a young age and remin level headed
2. they have bad performances, get slughtered by the press and loose confidence
3. they have very good performances, get pompous (like Ade) and think they deserve ballon d’ or and pay rises. look at where pennant and bentley are now?????
October 21, 2008 at 11:40
Ok Mandanda we’ll agree to disagree but have a look at our reserves on the Arsenal channel next chance and then tell me why he warrants his place. Just have a look that’s all.
October 21, 2008 at 11:41
Mandanda that was a reply to ur comment at 11.32am
October 21, 2008 at 11:41
Mandana …This isn’t the best time to defend Song, he isn’t helping himself at the moment.
Franchise.. Man U wouldn’t have Silvestre in there squad (fact) but we are saying he is our best CB now.
October 21, 2008 at 11:42
franchise is right… we beat bolton last year under much much harder circumstances… 2-0 down and a man down in the pissing rain!!!
and we would have beat blackburn if it wasnt for jens howler, i could have done a better job at RB than song on saturday
October 21, 2008 at 11:46
Mandanda, sorry missed out your “d” ..
October 21, 2008 at 11:46
you cant defend song or denilson they are the weak links in that team i liken them to cygan and senderos that says it all….B.B.K
October 21, 2008 at 11:48
Avenell if Silvestre werent injured last season he wld have been third choice CB at Mancs. The reason fergie let him go was cos he wanted to feature more and whilst he was injured he dropped down the order. Who do u think is Mancs 3rd choice CB? Johnny Evans…. Hello…. O’shea plays there sometimes. Silvestre hasn’t turn shit all of a sudden.
October 21, 2008 at 11:48
clichy for the winner tonight
October 21, 2008 at 11:50
carlos esq strike frm 25 yards i can see it now the new r.carlos
October 21, 2008 at 11:51
Franchise, in essence we both agree (albeit for differing reasons) that these young super talented players are not ready to be starters then. In that case we are left with Song, Diaby et al right?
Geoff, I see you point and like I said I am a huge supporter of Coquelin and think he should get a look in next season at least. However, I remain unconvinced by Randall. The thing is reserve team football seen to be lower than Chanpionship football which is why we loaned Barazite to Derby, and Bedtner to Birm before him, to Championship teams in order to prepare them to be more competitive in the first team squad. Bednter is still not a starter for us, although I feel he should start more games I’m sure skandi would concur!
Avenell, to the contrary I think this is the best time to defend him I would be an impressionable fan otherwise hehe.
October 21, 2008 at 11:53
the battle of the left backs tonight carlos vs clichy who will win….
October 21, 2008 at 11:56
David Becham, the pride of London!
October 21, 2008 at 11:57
When we played Everton on saturday we had three or four players out from our so called best eleven.
The other nite on ATV it showed the 7-0 drubbing of Everton it was later on in the season, but we had about the same amount of players out but we walked it..
Is it the reserves coming in are not as good quality?
Or Is it the first team players are not as good and and cannot cope with a few changes?
It’s better when we change all 11 players like in the cc, we look a better team than if we change 2 or 3..
11/05/05 v Everton.
Lehmann, Lauren, Campbell, Senderos, Cole, Pires (Fabregas 64), Vieira (Flamini 45), Edu, Reyes, Bergkamp, Van Persie (Henry 45). Subs Not Used: Almunia, Toure.
October 21, 2008 at 11:57
Sorry, I meant to say David Becham, the pride of English Football.
October 21, 2008 at 12:01
Kunle, I think you misspelt Theo Walcott…
October 21, 2008 at 12:02
Mandanda my critic of Song is clear and crystal. The guy offers nothing not even power (he’s so mentioned only attribute) to this side.
Eboue gets slagged off but he is a good second choice RB. he would get into most sides in the premiership as a first choice RB.
Ade gets slagged too but we all know that he gives us an outlet, he’s probably suffering cos he is putting a lot of pressure to perform as well as last season hence his current form but also cos cesc cannot create as much for him as a result of his creativity being reduced by accomodating the likes of song and denilson in the side.
Gallas gets slagged but he pops up to score some crucial goals
Denilson gets slagged too but he’s got a few goals and assists to match
What has Song done in 5 or 6 appearances this season….
Well he has caused us two goals against Sunderland and Everton
October 21, 2008 at 12:05
Kunle you got Beckham wrong too, not a criticism just a heads up and Franchise I make you right again!
October 21, 2008 at 12:05
Might I add. Ade’s shenanigans over the summer and he’s newly developed lazyness doesnt help but hey he’s got 6 goals and about 4 assists this season
October 21, 2008 at 12:06
YES, OUR GREAT THEO WALCOTT
October 21, 2008 at 12:08
i’ll catch u guys in a minute hopefullly by then Mandanda would be gone
I feel so inclined to reply to ur comments Mr Mandanada. I cant really believe that ne1 would still be on Song’s side. By the way Mandanada I heard that Man City’s bidding for you in January????
October 21, 2008 at 12:09
That’s better Kunle… oh and you can spell that Jack Wilshere as well!
October 21, 2008 at 12:10
Franchise, Song has played DM, CB and wrongly at right back (blame AW!). We beat Everton, Bolton, Blackburn and drew in Europe. WE have NOT LOST in any of the matches he started.
Some of the slagging off the mentioned players are OTT sometimes.
October 21, 2008 at 12:10
nasri is in the squad
October 21, 2008 at 12:11
let’s do a man to man comparison for 05 team and 08 team
Lehmann- Almunia – lehmann wins 8-6
Lauren – Eboue – Eboue wins 8-7
Campbell- Silvestre – Campbell wins 8-7
Senderos – Song – Senderos wins 7-5
Cashley – Clichy – Clichy wins 9-8
Pires – Nasri – Pires wins 8-7
Edu – Denilson – Edu wins 7-6
Vieira – Fabregas – Fabregas wins 9-8
Reyes – Walcott – its a close tie, 8-8
Bergkamp – Ade – Bergkamp wins hands down – 10-7
Persie – Persie – old persie wins 8-7
so this team is not up at the same level as 05 team.
October 21, 2008 at 12:13
Like them or hate them, Pedro and Geof, u guys always make my day! I am laughing my ass out here!
October 21, 2008 at 12:13
u r bit late Franchise, I signed last night 150k/wk
October 21, 2008 at 12:15
papa – strange comparison – Song and Senderos were mere babies in 05. Edu was rubbish. Almunia is hitting his straps every game, although i loved the man german bastard. Campbell was on the way out, agreed on the rest
October 21, 2008 at 12:16
08 team score – 79
05 team score – 87
quite a difference
almost a player capability extra.
and it shows
the way we play it looks we are a man short.
October 21, 2008 at 12:17
Papa you have marked Vieira 8 and Eboue 8 … Are you serious?
October 21, 2008 at 12:17
Talking about Newcastle/City match yesterday. I think that referee
should be banned for life. I also will not want him anywhere near Arsenal matches! What do you think Pedro/Geof
October 21, 2008 at 12:17
evo
senderos was not as awful as song today even in 2005.
and for Edu, i would still have him in our side ahead of Denilson
October 21, 2008 at 12:18
My Line up for tonight, Not what I would pick but I am trying to predict Wengers next moment of madness when it comes to formation and team selection,
GK: Wilshire
LB: Theo
CB: RVP
CB: Ade
RB: Fabregas
LM: Song
RM: Clichy
CM: Fabianski
CM: Gibbs
FW: Almunia
FW: Silvestre
In all seriousness I hope he doesn’t fuck around tonight, on paper we are a class above but this is a tricky venue, and cant risk experiments. As for SONG completely agree, In fact I hope he is not even in Fucking Turkey. I know it is not his fault that he gets picked, but how can tell Wenger we are not amused by this clown who contributes absolutely zip to a performance. He is the fat kid that gets picked last in the playground to make up the numbers. I would go with
Almunia
Eboue, Djourou, Silvestre, Clichy (NO FUCKING SONG)
Theo, Cesc, Diaby, Nasri/Vela
RVP Bendtner
But my money is on Wenger picking
Almunia
Eboue, LFKPAS, Silvestre, Clichy
Theo, Cesc, Denilson, Diaby
RVP, Ade
October 21, 2008 at 12:19
This team also got more points in the Premiership last year than in 05…
But I don’t feel as confident about it.
October 21, 2008 at 12:20
Tonight will be a tough test, if we can keep a clean sheet that will be very good, but Fenerbache will throw everything they’ve got at us, so 2-1 would do nicely.
Good news that Djourou is back, I hope Djourou’s previous very good Champions League performances will merit him a place in the middle alongside Silvestre.
Eboue, Djourou, Silvestre, Clichy
That is a good back 4, all are capable players, although like most, I suspect Song will be given a chance.
Denilson will probably start and I think he’s a good player, he’s still got plenty of development ahead of him, but that shouldn’t overshadow that as things are, he is a good central midfielder.
It seems that Nasri is fit to play, if he is not available we have a player who spent all last season on left wing, Carlos Vela, I am sure he is capable of performing well for us judging by what I’ve seen of him in an Arsenal shirt.
Theo on the right and Vela on the left are appealing choices, both players who are fast, very good technically and can score goals.
Hopefully no more experiments at right back, Eboue knows how to play there, lets stick with what we know and do experiments in reserve games, and only if a player proves to be outstanding at reserve level in the position cover is needed for should they be named in the starting lineup.
Has Song ever played at right back for the reserves? I think he should before he gets thrown into a Premier League game, it’s not fair on him or the team.
Score Prediction: 2-1 Arsenal
October 21, 2008 at 12:20
id take Denilson. more promise. Edu was never going to cut it. he played 1 good game and he took the penalty against everton. that was it
October 21, 2008 at 12:27
IMO, this will be tonight’s team-
———–ALMUNIA
–EBOUE SONG SILVESTRE CLICHY
WALCOTT DIABY DENILSON CESC RVP
———–ADEBAYOR
I think if nasri is fit then he will play instead of Theo, but i do still expect a win tonight.
Also my vote for LE CHAMP has to go to CLICHY, he is just the most consistently excellent left back i have ever seen. I also think he would make a great captain.
Oh, and he shouldve been number 3 tra lalala
October 21, 2008 at 12:28
Yeah, Ade is a great outlet….a great outlet to get offside in double quick time.
October 21, 2008 at 12:32
What stood out watching the 05 team was how many left footed players we had Cole, RVP, Edu and Reyes we seem to attract the left footed players through our history..
October 21, 2008 at 12:33
gotta hit the fart sack all. back in 7 hours, see you all then
up the arse!
October 21, 2008 at 12:34
something’s wrong
October 21, 2008 at 12:47
Kunle it was a shocking ref, Finest, more than that, it’s not fair on the fans.
October 21, 2008 at 12:49
wasn’t it the same ref who gave manure a pen against bolton when ronaldo dived? he’s shit, should be suspended.
October 21, 2008 at 12:50
Why would Arsenal want a player who is 27, has a totally fucked knee and Fenebache “threw out” ?
Juventus do… Keep your eye on him we could have had him on a free..
October 21, 2008 at 13:17
Hughsie.
what i was chating about is Wenger’s idea was to use DuDu as our secret weapon last season basicly bring him in the latar part of the season witch is what he did till he got Injuerd. he was the most in form striker till that takle put a stop to that.
my point was Wenger will do the same with Vela. he will be Unleashed later on in the season.
But only time will tell.
any ways just wanted to read the post before i go to the Hospital, ill chat to u all tonight when Game time starts
October 21, 2008 at 13:23
Back in the saddle after a long and extremely depressing trip to London.
How are all you Le Grovers? – well, I trust.
I have an apology to make. I have consistently supported the talents of Alexandre Song. I was wrong – totally wrong. His performances this season have shown us that he is not good enough for The Arsenal. Maybe
In his defence, he was played out of position on Saturday, but to track your man is basic defending, and he is allegedly a quality International. Song is too slow, lacks intelligence in his positional play, is lacking in ball-skills, poor in the air, and worst of all …. is Pig Ugly.
October 21, 2008 at 13:48
One day a guy dies and finds himself in hell. As he is wallowing in
despair, he has his first meeting with the devil.
Satan: “Why so glum?”
Guy: “Why do you think? I’m in hell!”
Satan: “Hell’s not so bad. We actually have a lot of fun down here. You
a drinking man?”
Guy: “Sure, I love to drink.”
Satan: “Well, you’re gonna love Mondays then. On Mondays, all we do is
drink. Whiskey, tequila, Guinness, wine coolers, Tab, and Fresca. We
drink ’til we throw up, and then we drink some more! And you don’t have
to worry about getting a hangover, because you’re dead anyway.”
Guy: “Gee that sounds great!”
Satan: “You a smoker?”
Guy: “You better believe it”
Satan: “All right! You’re gonna love Tuesdays We get the finest cigars
from all over the world, and smoke our lungs out. If you get cancer – no
biggie, you’re already dead, remember?”
Guy: “Wow that’s awesome!”
Satan: “I bet you like to gamble.”
Guy: “Why, yes, as a matter of fact I do.”
Satan: “Good, ’cause Wednesdays you can gamble all you want. Craps,
blackjack, roulette, poker, slots, whatever. If you go bankrupt, it
doesn’t matter, you’re dead anyhow.”
Guy: “Cool!”
Satan: “What about drugs?”
Guy: “Are you kidding? Love drugs! You don’t mean…?”
Satan: “That’s right! Thursday is drug day. Help yourself to a great big
bowl of crack or smack. Smoke a doobie the size of a submarine. You can
do all the drugs you want. You’re dead so who cares.”
Guy: “Wow! I never realized Hell was such a cool place!”
Satan: “You gay?”
Guy: “No…”
Satan: “Oooo, Fridays are gonna be tough…”
October 21, 2008 at 13:52
Hi Raddy,
We all know ramos is a gooner 
how did your interview go down at white hart lane
October 21, 2008 at 13:53
And shinawatra (former owner of mancity) has been sentenced to jail
October 21, 2008 at 13:53
I just wanted to highlight the fact that no team, other than Southampton has clawed their way out of the relegation zone when they were this far behind (Spurs). I can’t believe that I am going to say this, but there is a very strong possibility that the Spuds are going down this season.
Man City are not going to come even close to cracking the Top 4, and we have a shot at winning it all . . . unless Song ruins the day.
Not a bad start to a Tuesday.
October 21, 2008 at 13:56
I think the concensus on the desired formation tonight (Almunia. Eboue, Silvestre, Djorou, Clichy, Theo, Cesc, Diaby, Nasri, Bedntner RVP) compared to what Wenger will pick(Song at CB, Eboue at RW, Adebarndoor for Bendtner ) is pretty much there.
I noticed Wrighty getting loads of grief on his blog so I agree with Pedro to spam out dumb comments as I will for both my youtube videos. I got some Port Vale fan trying to take the piss out of my pre match videos on youtube. He’s tried to post his dumb comment 4 times but they didn’t appear because they need my approval – which he ‘aint getting !
BTW I’d be obliged if some of you guys could leave a few comments – search youtube under my log on name(charybdis1966), if you’d be so kind.
October 21, 2008 at 13:56
“We can not lose any more defenders that is for sure,” said. Wenger. “But we will start with the team that finished the game against Everton.”
So we know the back five is
almunia
eboue (thank god), song, silvestre, clichy
I get the sense he will employ a 5 man midfield with Ade up top.
I am not sure theo will be involved but if Nasri is injured, then he may be forced to play yet again. He wont push denilson out of CM since he has done a decent job thus far.
so my bet is
nasri diaby, denilson fabregas, RVP
Ade
October 21, 2008 at 14:03
Toure’s out until November. Djourou should get more games hopefully
October 21, 2008 at 14:06
Djourou won’t play. He’s going to stick with song. Fuck knows why.
October 21, 2008 at 14:11
Hi Kelsey.
WHL is what it always has been – full of comedians. The Stoke game, particularly the last 20 minutes was some of the best entertainment I have seen in years.
How Ramos keeps a straight face whilst watching his ‘team’ is beyond me. I guess he was pissing himself inside,
£6 m a year, the highest paid mananger in the World (allegedly). The man is a genius.
October 21, 2008 at 14:11
PS – forgot – Wenger would pllay Denilson instead of Diaby, as goonermichael would says, f**k knows why.
October 21, 2008 at 14:14
Chary, I don’t have an you tube account could you let me have a name of one of your clips or link one on here for me?
October 21, 2008 at 14:16
We playing united in a few weeks…. 3 points there or the race is as good as over. Lets see if Wenger sticks with he’s beloved children denilson and song?????
October 21, 2008 at 14:21
Afternoon All, I am going to watch the game LIVE on ITV4, no need to switch on the old lap for this one, never really get a good picture on mine. The sun is shining, colleagues are being nice to me (what’s going on there I wonder), I feel really positive and have a smile on my face – good omen me thinks. Let’s hope Arsene picks a solid team – Almunia, Eboue, Djouru, Silvestre, Clichy, Theo, Diaby, Cesc, Nasri (if fit), Bendtner, RVP, probably not…… still, I’m going to keep the faith.
October 21, 2008 at 14:29
I’m going to turn my TV volume to full tonight, lets see how good this Turkish atmosphere really is!
October 21, 2008 at 14:30
Sorry Avenell, at work I can’t access Youtube but if you search under “Arsenal v FC Twente” and “arsenal V brimingham” you should get either one of my videos.
Thanks in advance Avenell and anyone else – I’ve only got 1 comment so far !
October 21, 2008 at 14:32
so toures out for two weeks then prehaps he will have time to review his form and comeback in a better frame of mind
October 21, 2008 at 14:32
Check out the vids on Youtube with the Fenerbahce fans jumping, it looks mad.
avenell – You don’t need an account just put his name in the search bar.
October 21, 2008 at 14:34
“They have the most passionate fans in Europe,”
Can’t wait to see how our players respond!
October 21, 2008 at 14:39
silvest and gallas should be a solid partnership in time kolo needs a break he looks fcuk’d at the minute
October 21, 2008 at 14:48
I’ll try and have a look in a bit Chary, I’ve gotta bomb out for a while!!
October 21, 2008 at 15:06
Does anyone remember or knows anything about Aragones comments concerning Thienry Henry when he (Aragones) was trying to motivate Reyes to play for spain. I am talking about the statement that made people labelled him a racist. Geoff/Pedro can you help out, please
October 21, 2008 at 15:11
kunle…
aragones shouted at reyes during training ‘your better than that black shit, when u get back u tell him that’ he did it infront of the spanish media
October 21, 2008 at 15:18
when I was a kid you used to sometimes see white dog turds, what happened to them? I suppose it came from a dog that had eaten a bone? AT’s comment reminded me of it….
October 21, 2008 at 15:22
Pedro, do you still have the ticket? i have mailed you, cheers
October 21, 2008 at 15:27
Its obvious Aragones got it wrong with Reyes. All he’s one is cos of Henry. I think it was wrong for Wenger to say he was not a racist. He might not be one but Wnger trying to exonerate him is wrong.
Sometimes I wonder where our players get the insatiable desire to talk to the press but when ur manager always has something to say to them (press) that doesn’t directly concern him then that I’ve found my answer. One day he’s talking about how he cant save the UEFA cup the other he’s saying Aragones is not racist??????
October 21, 2008 at 15:28
Sorry guys I meant all he’s won
October 21, 2008 at 15:30
he’s also talking about how Tottenham’s situation is not Comolli’s fault…. Mr WENGER LEARN TO SAY I CANNOT COMMENT ON THAT
October 21, 2008 at 15:39
Sorry Andy, it was sold earlier!
October 21, 2008 at 15:42
Today’s lesson
In the beginning God covered the earth with broccoli, cauliflower and spinach,with green, yellow and red vegetables of all kinds so Man and Woman would livelong and healthy lives.
Then using God’s bountiful gifts, Satan created Dairy Ice Cream and Magnums.And Satan said, ‘You want hot fudge with that?’ And Man said, ‘Yes!’ And Womansaid, ‘I’ll have one too with chocolate chips’. And so they gained 10 pounds.
And God created the healthy yoghurt that woman might keep the figure that manfound so fair.
And Satan brought forth white flour from the wheat and sugar from the cane andcombined them. And Woman went from size 12 to size 14.
So God said, ‘Try my fresh green salad’. And Satan presented Blue Cheesedressing and garlic croutons on the side. And Man and Woman unfastened theirbelts following the repast.
God then said ‘I have sent you healthy vegetables and olive oil in which tocook them’.
And Satan brought forth deep fried coconut king prawns, butter-dipped lobsterchunks and chicken fried steak, so big it needed its own platter, and Man’scholesterol went through the roof.
Then God brought forth the potato; naturally low in fat and brimming withpotassium and good nutrition.
Then Satan peeled off the healthy skin and sliced the starchy centre into chipsand deep-fried them in animal fats adding copious quantities of salt. And Manput on more pounds.
God then brought forth running shoes so that his Children might lose thoseextra pounds.
And Satan came forth with a cable TV with remote control so Man would not haveto toil changing the channels. And Man and Woman laughed and cried before theflickering light and started wearing stretch jogging suits.
Then God gave lean beef so that Man might consume fewer calories and stillsatisfy his appetite.
And Satan created McDonalds and the 99p double cheeseburger. Then Satan said’You want fries with that?’ and Man replied, ‘Yes, and super size ‘em’. AndSatan said, ‘It is good.’ And Man and Woman went into cardiac arrest.
God sighed ………. and created quadruple by-pass surgery.
And then ………… Satan chuckled and created the National Health Service.
THE FINAL WORD ON NUTRITION
After an exhaustive review of the research literature, here’s the final word onnutrition and health.:
1. Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.
2. Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.
3. Chinese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.
4. Italians drink excessive amounts of red wine and suffer fewer heart attacksthan us.
5. Germans drink beer and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heartattacks than us.
6. The French eat foie-gras, full fat cheese and drink red wine and sufferfewer heart attacks than us
CONCLUSION: Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what .kills you
October 21, 2008 at 15:47
Any starting 11 guesses? Mine is Almunia, Eboue, Song, Silvestre, Clichy, Walcott, Denilson, Nasri, Fabregas, RVP, Adebayor
I don’t think Wenger will chuck Diaby in from the start, unless he intends to play him for 45-60 mins.
October 21, 2008 at 15:48
I met this really kinky girl last night. ‘Humiliate me,’ she said … So I bought her a Tottenham shirt…
I just went down to the newsagents and bought Tottenham Hotspur magazine. Thank goodness they had porn mags to hide it in.
“I was playing Scrabble and had enough letters to make ‘Tottenham Hotspur Football Club’. I was gutted when I found out it was only worth two points.”
· Is it just me or are Spurs the team to beat this season? Everyone’s at it
When a groggy Vedran Corluka regained consciousness in the ambulance leaving the Britannia Stadium on Sunday he asked medical staff who he was. On being told he played football for Tottenham Hotspur he lapsed into a coma.
All trains through White Hart Lane have been cancelled due to a massive points failure.
What’s the difference between Bigfoot and the Spurs defence? Bigfoot has been spotted several times.
October 21, 2008 at 15:57
fenerbache are not doing well.. we should go out all guns blazing… if we give them too little to think about they could gain a bit of momentum and hurt us..
early goals i think are the key here.. a couple before half time and then wenger can try out his 4-5-1…
if we don’t press them early on we are in for a long night!
October 21, 2008 at 16:00
Choy – we’ve been crying out for an end to the soporific starts we get from our team. In the days of the Invincibles they used to come out of the blocks like a tam of Carl Lewis’s.
Lately we get a torpor that is only shaken off when we concede.
October 21, 2008 at 16:03
“A woman goes to the doctors…..
“Doctor, every time i open my legs my fanny says Spurs are a top 4 team”
The doctor replies, “I’m affraid that is not your fanny, thats your arse talking…..”
October 21, 2008 at 16:05
choy.charybdis,agree with both.if we go out 4-5-1 they will batter us from the start and if the one up front is TT he will be offside 90% of the time.We all appear to know how we should line up,but of course the boss will do the exact opposite,hoping for a draw by hanging on.I hope I am wrong,but I have a feeling he is just become too predictable.
October 21, 2008 at 16:07
Pedro you are the best joke teller on here except for ?
October 21, 2008 at 16:13
I’m watching the stiffs on Arsenal TV tonight…. I got a feeling it’s going to be a better game !!!!!!!!
October 21, 2008 at 16:15
And it might stop me kicking things in frustration……….. especially after our Togoan Offside Merchant does his party trick for the 20th time, or Wenger starts with Eboue & Song………. doh………. HE IS STARTING WITH EBOUE & SONG……… defo the kids for me then !!!!!
October 21, 2008 at 16:17
You’ve all gotta check this out! Its brilliant!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=U7KhfpY2VXo
October 21, 2008 at 16:17
Arsene says the team that finished the Everton game will start …… so that means JD is 5th choice CB? After Gallas, Toure, Sly, and Song.
And he’s going to play Diaby wide left? Again? When Theo scored his goal, both him and Diaby were on the same wing. Diaby drifts too much when he’s played on one side, Clichy would have no cover if he wants to make a run
October 21, 2008 at 16:17
Bit out of date though!
October 21, 2008 at 16:33
charyb.. the invincibles put most of the games to bed by 3:15 pm.. for a 3 pm KO….
October 21, 2008 at 16:34
Ah, for those days again Choy…
October 21, 2008 at 17:32
changing the subject ..
why if a out of tune english git who lives in Thailand knew thaksin was guilty over 2 years ago(me) , has England only just learned of it ?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7681416.stm
are the FA just money hungry and ready to turn a blind eye to a supposed billionare with more cash than brains ? Why does it take so long for england to come around to elementary news thats was on offer to the thailand public even prior to him purchasing man shitty ?
so why did the FA allow thaksin to become an owner ?
October 21, 2008 at 18:37
Ethan, we all knew that, Labour under Tony Blair let him in, Tony Blair is a lying disgusting cunt, that’s why we invaded Iraq and why we have more wanted terrorists in our country than Afghanistan and Iran combined, that’s why Abromovich was allowed in, Tony Blair and new labour.
His wife is just as vile, she represented a convicted rapist against the woman he raped for defamation of character or similar.
That family are more corrupt than Shittywanker ever was.
October 21, 2008 at 18:38
all after the cash ethan… its all about the money!
October 21, 2008 at 18:45
We’ve gone 4-5-1 again.
October 21, 2008 at 18:47
fuck 4-5-1 again!
October 21, 2008 at 18:49
almunia
eboue silvest song clichy
——denilson—–
walcott fab diaby nasri
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adebayor
October 21, 2008 at 18:55
Ethan
The FA have afit and proper rule for owners of league teams. If you’ve got the money you’re fit and proper.
Geoff
I used to be a member of labour. I totally agree the blairs (and most of the new labour party) are disgusting cunts.
Cherie is an ugly disgusting cunt
October 21, 2008 at 18:55
Nail biting time,can read wenger like a book,diaby for RVP ????
October 21, 2008 at 18:55
Is Nasri playing Choy?
October 21, 2008 at 19:01
yeah gm he is.. the team is my post at 6.49pm
you can check uefa.com !
October 21, 2008 at 19:02
COME ON ARSENAL!!!!!!!
October 21, 2008 at 19:04
Thanks Choy. It’s on the bbc website but not arsenal.com (which isn’t suprising I suppose}
How are you Treze?
October 21, 2008 at 19:05
im good gm, how bout you?
October 21, 2008 at 19:09
this team is certainly good enuff to win or at least get a draw
October 21, 2008 at 19:11
ihe team as choy posted is official according to itv4 who are showing it.
PREDICTION not for us.berbatov will be the biggest waste of money the mancs have ever spent and wont last more than a season and will go abroad(most probably get a hattrick tonight)
October 21, 2008 at 19:13
Good thanks but still at work and past the point of getting home for the kick off. Just a case of how much I miss.
October 21, 2008 at 19:14
What does djourou have to do to get a start?
October 21, 2008 at 19:15
be eboue
October 21, 2008 at 19:16
Evening Govers. are we ready for a goodnight of Football then?
October 21, 2008 at 19:17
hi raif, i’m going for…. 3-1 to us maybe 3-0 if we completely dominate
October 21, 2008 at 19:19
goonermichael.
i think he has to Kill Song maybe even Gallas
October 21, 2008 at 19:19
hope so raif.. lets see how they line up..
October 21, 2008 at 19:27
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh…4-5-1………………………noooooooooooooo
October 21, 2008 at 19:27
hehe.. join the club!
October 21, 2008 at 19:29
kick off now or in 15 minutes?
October 21, 2008 at 19:32
15 min treze.. have to do with text updates for today
October 21, 2008 at 19:33
oh ok thanks choy, why text updates? no internet streams?
October 21, 2008 at 19:34
nah am at work.. all streams blocked!
October 21, 2008 at 19:35
oh… we’ll keep you updated then
October 21, 2008 at 19:36
To me this is a 4-4-1-1
Eboue—–Song——–Silvestre——-Clichy
Walcott——-Denilson——-Diaby——Nasri
——————-Fabregas——————
——————-Adebayor—————
This allows us to soak up pressure, Fabregas links up with Adebayor, Fabregas plays in “the hole”, and considering that in the first 15 minutes they’re expected to make wave after wave of attack, packing midfield and giving Fabregas an offensive role will be adequate for us to create chances and will compensate for lack of matches players at the back. I think it’ll work, we’re going for a low scoring win with this formation with defence prioritised over attack.
October 21, 2008 at 19:36
Oh God, I am soooooooooooooooooo excited, but for Song……. ah well, maybe Arsene knows something we all don’t???Why no Djouru??? Silvestre will have to work as two tonight then… f**k – COME ON YOU GUNNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 21, 2008 at 19:39
Goonermichael, well done for your honesty, and good call on Cherie! Song… Denilson, what the fuck is wrong with Wenger?
Okay watch him tonight, watch how quickly he gets rid of the ball and how many fuck ups he makes.
October 21, 2008 at 19:43
i see only 4 defensive players in that lineup!
October 21, 2008 at 19:44
PS, don’t htink I ever told anyone of you that I loved Pires (still do) he was my D’artagne – or however you spell that name – infact I used to call the Viera, Thierry and Pires Un, deux, troix – and in the office we had a nick name for Thierry – ‘Enchante’ – whenever he scored that is what he would say … ahhhhh, I do miss him, but, I must say I do profess a big love for Pires. But, you know women, I have now moved my love to the new boy on the block; Eduardo (and Nasri is sneaking in there as well).
October 21, 2008 at 19:47
skandi Bobby P is my fave ever gooner, but we have nasri now and he looks like he might actually step up
October 21, 2008 at 19:50
look look. there sticking 4 players round TW14 when he gets the ball
October 21, 2008 at 19:50
darrrrrrrrrrrrrrn my stream
can someone keep us posted?
October 21, 2008 at 19:50
i noticed that too actually lol should open up some space
October 21, 2008 at 19:53
TW14 should stick to the line
Fener playa lot through the middle and like to crowd it there with criss cross passes
TW on the line will keep them stretched
October 21, 2008 at 19:53
I dont think Ade has been offside yet?
October 21, 2008 at 19:54
who do u think is the Bigger weaker link in our team?
im stuck out of Song and Ade.
October 21, 2008 at 19:54
he has trindle….. and is it just me or is Fabregod slacking lately
October 21, 2008 at 19:56
ive got the setanta stream working a treat via TVU player – channel 21501
October 21, 2008 at 19:56
GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
i have made my pick. Song is the weak link LOL
October 21, 2008 at 19:56
yeeeeeeeeahhhhh!
October 21, 2008 at 19:57
1-0 ade
October 21, 2008 at 19:57
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah
October 21, 2008 at 19:57
the match is on ITV 4
October 21, 2008 at 19:57
Hi Treze
Just got in frm the pub/work – Song, Eboue and Denilson?
But Goooooaaaalllll So shows what I know!
October 21, 2008 at 19:57
GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
tw14
October 21, 2008 at 19:57
OMG
October 21, 2008 at 19:57
fucking sensational by the way
October 21, 2008 at 19:58
2-0 THEEEEEEEO
October 21, 2008 at 19:58
Fucking hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 21, 2008 at 19:58
Oh bollocks!!!
October 21, 2008 at 19:58
thats what i,mn talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
October 21, 2008 at 19:58
GOOOOALLLL!
October 21, 2008 at 19:58
2 goals in 5 seconds
October 21, 2008 at 19:58
hahahahaha david pleate that wanker. i love his line tho.
YOU CAN DRIVE A BUS THOUGH IT
October 21, 2008 at 19:58
TWO GOALS!
October 21, 2008 at 19:58
bollux aint the f*kin word mannn!!!
October 21, 2008 at 19:58
COME ON YOU GUNNERS!
October 21, 2008 at 19:58
amazing
October 21, 2008 at 19:59
far out!!!!!
October 21, 2008 at 19:59
great.. now sit back and defend
rest ade fab !!!
October 21, 2008 at 19:59
WE LOVE YOU ARSENAL WE DO
October 21, 2008 at 20:00
We need more than 2 to win this one. This needs to be a statement game.
October 21, 2008 at 20:00
evo
i told u…my sonny is gonna do some good today
October 21, 2008 at 20:00
What skill!
October 21, 2008 at 20:00
What a Hammer Blow to Fener. hahaha i can see more comming indeed
Vela should get a run out aswell if the match is safe. witch i think it is already
October 21, 2008 at 20:00
fucking brilliant, amazing, awesome, i have never seen that ever!
October 21, 2008 at 20:01
skill by whom pedro?
October 21, 2008 at 20:01
Man alive. Diaby is the missing link.
October 21, 2008 at 20:01
or somebody is gonna get hurt real baaaaaaaaaad !
that’s what i told him
October 21, 2008 at 20:01
HOw out of position was song there?
October 21, 2008 at 20:01
ouch
October 21, 2008 at 20:01
ALMUNIA!
October 21, 2008 at 20:02
choy i think he meant diaby he did a nice bit of skill on the edge of the box
October 21, 2008 at 20:02
can u belive it. Arsenal walks though the Gates of Hell and silents its people to a mere Pin drop. hahaha
October 21, 2008 at 20:02
can someone describe the goals..
i don’t have any stream working
October 21, 2008 at 20:02
http://veetle.com/download/veetle-0.9.9.exe
the above is teh program i stream with most weeks, ill lst eth link below,
600kps
teh tuv stream seems good at my end as well, should anyone need either
October 21, 2008 at 20:02
lol russel peters!
October 21, 2008 at 20:02
Keep the pressure on Gunners.
October 21, 2008 at 20:02
Don’t forget who we have on the pitch, we need to score more.
October 21, 2008 at 20:02
here is teh link
http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=48e7786aaa3bd
October 21, 2008 at 20:02
2 thru balls nearly exactly the same for the goals.
what about diaby’s nutmeg back there
October 21, 2008 at 20:02
Veetle is what I am using. Clean, and no buffering.
October 21, 2008 at 20:03
choy
hez amazing…
have you seen his english impressions?
October 21, 2008 at 20:03
See what I mean? he’s fucking hopeless
October 21, 2008 at 20:03
Yes Geoff . . . more goals = no heart burn.
October 21, 2008 at 20:03
or
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/tue21.10/Fenerbahce_Arsenal.html
October 21, 2008 at 20:04
evo
who has the assists?
October 21, 2008 at 20:04
Who assisted the first?
October 21, 2008 at 20:05
Cesc the second.
October 21, 2008 at 20:05
lovly Elbow block Mr Song
October 21, 2008 at 20:05
Song…
October 21, 2008 at 20:05
Not again, that was down to Sonng, cunt.
October 21, 2008 at 20:06
Who gave away the free kick? (rhetorical question)
October 21, 2008 at 20:06
Come on.
October 21, 2008 at 20:06
yeah he’s always taking the piss out of indians.. he’s here in fact in bangalore!!
now back to football.. is diaby playing the no.10 role?
October 21, 2008 at 20:06
can u belive it ,
a fucking Set piece again
October 21, 2008 at 20:07
2 assists to cesc fabregas!
October 21, 2008 at 20:07
arrrrrrgh…i hate song :@
October 21, 2008 at 20:07
Geoff get in to song, where is Johan when you need him
October 21, 2008 at 20:07
Might as well put RvP in as center back.
October 21, 2008 at 20:07
song an silvestre linking up well FOR THE WRONG FUCKING SIDE!!!!
October 21, 2008 at 20:08
Best stream i found so far:
http://www.iraqgoals.com/en/ch4.html
October 21, 2008 at 20:08
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
October 21, 2008 at 20:08
WOW
October 21, 2008 at 20:08
WILL SMIIIIITTTTTTHHHHHHH!
October 21, 2008 at 20:08
Awesome Diaby!
October 21, 2008 at 20:08
DIABY !
October 21, 2008 at 20:08
Go finest
October 21, 2008 at 20:08
HE GOT BOOKED? WHY?
October 21, 2008 at 20:08
3-1 DIIIIIIIIIABY
October 21, 2008 at 20:09
Get fucking Song off before we concede another.
October 21, 2008 at 20:09
Diaby is a better striker than Ade!!!!
Song off, JD on ASAP
October 21, 2008 at 20:09
DIABY . . . come on lads. Shut these wankers out!
October 21, 2008 at 20:09
Diaby, OH OH Diaby OH OH…OH OH
October 21, 2008 at 20:09
get diaby back into the main team
October 21, 2008 at 20:10
Only 800 Arsenal fans at the game.
October 21, 2008 at 20:10
Diaby’s excellent
October 21, 2008 at 20:10
wtf
this is football or basketball???
October 21, 2008 at 20:11
October 21, 2008 at 20:11
who gives a flyer lol long as we Win
October 21, 2008 at 20:12
OK OK PEOPLE. lets take some Guesses on whos ganna score next?
i say Nasri
October 21, 2008 at 20:12
Ades…papa thank god its not bloody cricket
October 21, 2008 at 20:12
Next scores that hasnt scored already i mean lol
October 21, 2008 at 20:12
song, own goal
October 21, 2008 at 20:13
who wants to vote for LJW and Vela as center backs?
October 21, 2008 at 20:13
how the fuck did these cunts win any games last year?
October 21, 2008 at 20:13
or Hockey – to quote some special cunt after we beat the spuds 5-4 at the Lane
October 21, 2008 at 20:13
Fabregod
October 21, 2008 at 20:14
We’ve been saying Diaby is the man (if fit) all season, we’ve also been saying Song is shit, he’s needs to get Djourou on and admit his mistake, Eboue’s ok, Denilson – no comment, Ade fantastico as is Nasri and Theo.
October 21, 2008 at 20:15
is that John McCain coaching the Turks?
October 21, 2008 at 20:15
man scum just scored an offside goal. bastards
October 21, 2008 at 20:15
fener are finding it so easy to disposess ade
October 21, 2008 at 20:16
Eboue is playing good passes from the back
October 21, 2008 at 20:17
song is slow to react
October 21, 2008 at 20:17
Our defense is crap – a better team would have got 3 against us by now
October 21, 2008 at 20:17
i hate song and denilson…couldn’t he play JD and ramsey instead
October 21, 2008 at 20:18
song again to slow
October 21, 2008 at 20:18
defence
October 21, 2008 at 20:18
Is he sedated?
October 21, 2008 at 20:18
gnarleygeorge9
i dont think its McCain mate. i think its Sarah Palin’s hunted down Animals.
or maybe she has her Shotgun at there heads before the game
October 21, 2008 at 20:19
song is a shame for red and white
and people were cursing eboue…..he is defending in Fener half and no attack from right side
October 21, 2008 at 20:21
this commentary is hilariously bad. I shit you not he just said that the ref is getting on the fener fans’ “collective wick” wow…. just wow
October 21, 2008 at 20:22
what other Diffensive options do we have on the bench
October 21, 2008 at 20:22
The defending is shite, but im enjoying being 2 up!
Diaby is doing well, I’d like to see how he defends… I doubt we’ll see that tonight though!
October 21, 2008 at 20:22
just shoot!!!
October 21, 2008 at 20:22
Dirty Carlos
October 21, 2008 at 20:22
clichy is fucking brilliant
October 21, 2008 at 20:22
iraq goals went off air
i had a broken stream from that…
October 21, 2008 at 20:23
streaming is shite tonight
October 21, 2008 at 20:24
these cunts are more offside than kanu jnr
October 21, 2008 at 20:24
If he doesn’t take Song off the referee will, what his problem???
October 21, 2008 at 20:25
I take it back, diaby is crap.
October 21, 2008 at 20:26
I don’t like this new selfless ade and I don’t like Song.
October 21, 2008 at 20:26
chris
streaming is beautiful. get on TVU player channel 21501
October 21, 2008 at 20:26
Song is slow and shit.
October 21, 2008 at 20:27
Song done well with that Guiza through ball, didn’t commit himself, and closed down the angle.
October 21, 2008 at 20:27
best comment on guardian live commentary
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October 21, 2008 at 20:28
Ade is starting to piss me off.
and Song has already pissed me off.
October 21, 2008 at 20:28
Ade needs to be more direct. At least twice now he’s held it up instead of taking on the last man.
Think Denilson is doing ok. Some very good passes but not solid enough without the ball.
Song is on crack.
October 21, 2008 at 20:28
Theo is so fast.
October 21, 2008 at 20:29
thnaks evo mate
October 21, 2008 at 20:29
Almunia has been superb
October 21, 2008 at 20:29
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT. SORT IT OUT ARSENAL!!!!
October 21, 2008 at 20:29
almunia’s prevented us going behind lol even with 3 goals
October 21, 2008 at 20:29
Song is on crack, dope, angel dust. The lot!
What is he playing at?
October 21, 2008 at 20:30
song really thinks that he is an elephant
he just refuses to move and barges into one and sundry
October 21, 2008 at 20:30
Another Song fuck up, I hope all the Song lovers are counting, cos I am.
October 21, 2008 at 20:30
ALMUNIA, England Number 1
October 21, 2008 at 20:30
He will move Song out at the half. He doesn’t want to risk a red card.
October 21, 2008 at 20:31
cheers evo Chamone!!!
October 21, 2008 at 20:31
Fenerbache look like they are out of shape.
October 21, 2008 at 20:32
fabregas is playing a little tapped aswell, he’s looking a little dodgy
October 21, 2008 at 20:32
Top class defending there from Tweety
October 21, 2008 at 20:33
how was that offside????
October 21, 2008 at 20:35
i think fab should drop backa bit
he is getting cut out due to long balls being hoofed by fener back 4
October 21, 2008 at 20:35
a very entertaining yet quite annoying first half…
hopefully for the second half: song OFF – djourou ON, although i doubt it
October 21, 2008 at 20:35
Diaby gone off the boil, Nasri giving the ball away cheeply.
They should have had 2 yellow cards for persistent fouling.
Ignore the score, this comedy act is not a performance to be proud of…
October 21, 2008 at 20:36
stream goes off again…
any good working stream?
October 21, 2008 at 20:36
good attacking performance but defensive we look a bit dodgy
October 21, 2008 at 20:38
Mark, Song will be coming off. He has had 2 dodgy calls, for and against him. One more, and he is gone. Arsene isn’t stupid, at least I don’t think that he is.
October 21, 2008 at 20:38
If song stays on he could get a 2nd yellow=red then it end 3-3. So its time to get Yo Yo on
October 21, 2008 at 20:38
This is not a performance to be proud of ?!
We’re getting caught out at the back because they keep throwing loads of people forward, but we’ve taken our chances at the other end, catching their defence out, it’s not perfect but we’ve punished them well.
October 21, 2008 at 20:38
TVU channel 21501, thanks to evo
October 21, 2008 at 20:39
no worries lads, its a good stream so far – no issues
October 21, 2008 at 20:39
has the streaming stopped?. It is rubbish tonight.
But not as bad as our defence which looks as though they have never met each other. Thank God for Clichy
October 21, 2008 at 20:42
What a game with no defence for either side.Need at least one more.Yes geoff song is double shit,Almunia saved us twice.It is a bit of a comedy act you are right and ade has no skill whatsoever,which is highlighted more than ever.Theo is putting good balls in,but our defensive is shambolic.
October 21, 2008 at 20:43
Don’t worry about it guys… Song wont be there for the next game and I doubt they’ll be that bad for a second half.
Look at the positives:
Diaby looks great
Ade scored a cracker
Theo is flying
Cesc has 2 assists
Almunia looks world class
October 21, 2008 at 20:44
streaming still going. no issues as i said before.
Dynamo are up 1-0 against porto
October 21, 2008 at 20:44
i hope wenger makes Alex Sing his Swan Song and takes him off
October 21, 2008 at 20:45
song very poor, Almunia doing well. What fdoes Wenger have against JD?
very strange game to watch
October 21, 2008 at 20:45
nice one raif
hope you’re right
October 21, 2008 at 20:46
yeah raddy its tuv for streaming tonight as evo says
October 21, 2008 at 20:47
time to bring in DJ in place of song
October 21, 2008 at 20:47
i want celtic to score
October 21, 2008 at 20:48
hell of a free kick scored in the kiev game. long way out, scorcher.
who have we on the bench tonight?
October 21, 2008 at 20:48
r teh reserves winning?
October 21, 2008 at 20:48
Must agree that the Man U goal against Borwich looks suspiciously offside. The instant Berbatov glance to the linesman has the air of a Batsman who knows he has been caught behind!
October 21, 2008 at 20:49
just been handed a can of castlemaine, ill drink it in evo’s honor!
October 21, 2008 at 20:49
are they boomerangs on the refs back?
October 21, 2008 at 20:49
song’s still on
October 21, 2008 at 20:50
question AW, song is poor, he gave away the free kick that led to the goal, been said on here he’s a goal waiting to happen (for the opposition) wtf is wrong with JD? what has he done to upset AW? Another point, diaby looks good, stick him behind RVP and put Mr Offside on the bench for a game or 2, see how that works.
October 21, 2008 at 20:50
fuck… nasri’s dead
October 21, 2008 at 20:50
we need to start Keeping the ball better other wise Engalnds Number 1 might not be able to save us. and we cant count on song as his a Pleb
October 21, 2008 at 20:51
c’mon celtic..
stuff the old red nose
October 21, 2008 at 20:51
FUCK MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ITS SONG
October 21, 2008 at 20:51
SONG IS GOOOOOOOD!
October 21, 2008 at 20:52
SONG!!!!!!!
October 21, 2008 at 20:52
not been reading the comments on here, been watching the match, but surprise surprise, the manc scummers goal was offside and allowed, they have every ref in their pockets, shit! Song goal!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT A PLAYER ;¬)
October 21, 2008 at 20:52
FUCKKKKin HELLLL
October 21, 2008 at 20:52
lol song
October 21, 2008 at 20:52
Oh shit, that sealed his place in the team forever. Never thought I’d be pissed off to see us score.
October 21, 2008 at 20:52
Well, that’s one way to stay on the pitch.
October 21, 2008 at 20:53
Take off Song Right Now. before its to late
October 21, 2008 at 20:53
I don’t fuck’n believe it;)
October 21, 2008 at 20:53
Good finish.
October 21, 2008 at 20:53
I’ve always said he excellent!
October 21, 2008 at 20:53
that is one for the ages. fucking brilliant
October 21, 2008 at 20:53
raif u are about 3 mins ahead of eth streaming!
October 21, 2008 at 20:53
I was kidding…
October 21, 2008 at 20:54
im glad im wearing my song top this morning
October 21, 2008 at 20:54
u have the kiss of death Geoff!
October 21, 2008 at 20:54
Porto look in trouble, we can practically seal progress to the knock outs tonight! and we got these clowns at home next!
October 21, 2008 at 20:55
Not funny Pedro, go stand in the corner.
October 21, 2008 at 20:55
that goal is dedicated to geoff!
October 21, 2008 at 20:55
chris
haha should i wait 3 mins to comment after somthing happens HAHAHA.,,,
October 21, 2008 at 20:57
ha ha mate,
i dont care, its all good news u give!
October 21, 2008 at 20:57
evo-you have a song top?!
October 21, 2008 at 20:57
Fenerbache? “are you blackburn in disguise?”
October 21, 2008 at 20:57
cnuts..
they got second one on offside….
October 21, 2008 at 20:58
The penny has just dropped. Poor old fener look like Hull. The boys are taking their frustrations out on the tiger look alikes. Its pay back
October 21, 2008 at 20:59
Fair play its great to watch, but both defences are fucking shocking. Still we look so good going forward, and where has Diaby been hiding those skills? Oh yes, under the treatment table
October 21, 2008 at 21:00
ade pop.. we conceded?
October 21, 2008 at 21:00
haha so the Raif commentary continues then.
“we sang for SONG’s head. then he BURIED A GOAL INSTEAD
Alex Song!!
Alex Songgggg!!!!!
October 21, 2008 at 21:00
fener look shit, this is the team that did the Chavs earlier this year?
October 21, 2008 at 21:01
Pierre
remember they had a diffrent manger back then and a few diffrent players
October 21, 2008 at 21:02
lol-i like that one raif!
October 21, 2008 at 21:02
yea i agree pedro almunia for the first time to me like he may actually be a world class keeper was never convinced however tonight he is changing my opinion of him
October 21, 2008 at 21:02
david pleat is a wanker,”if it stays like this wenger caould make some changes, perhaps from the bench” where the fuck else would he make changes from? fucking knob, he ruins the ITV4 coverage.
October 21, 2008 at 21:02
i hate the fcking commentators on manc match..
some ex leeds united guy sucking up to old red nose
does not believe two goals were offside
but was giving ref a stick for calling rooney offside
October 21, 2008 at 21:02
Hey why were 3 of my posts scrubbed?
October 21, 2008 at 21:03
no song top here mate….just some wit on my behalf.
October 21, 2008 at 21:03
dunno raif, I don’t take an interest in the comings and going of these minnow teams
October 21, 2008 at 21:04
not another one down
October 21, 2008 at 21:04
Mark its a good one aint it
EVERYONE!!!!
“WE SANG FOR SONG’s HEAD, THEN HE BURIED A GOAL INSTEAD!!
ALEX SONG!!!
ALEX SONGGGG!!!
October 21, 2008 at 21:05
righht
October 21, 2008 at 21:05
nice song raif, i like that one!
October 21, 2008 at 21:06
They haven’t Finest, there’s nothing awaiting moderation???
October 21, 2008 at 21:06
i think we need to make subs now!!!
October 21, 2008 at 21:06
i bet aragonis is loving being beaten by a team with so many none white players in it!
October 21, 2008 at 21:06
I still want him off Raif.
October 21, 2008 at 21:07
so its Roman V Romo tomorrow? how boring, back to Turkey, sorry
October 21, 2008 at 21:08
One where I disputed Ade papas claim that the inventor of the wireless was indian, and where i wrote 1-0, then 2-0, and Ade papas post saying the indian fella invented the radio has also gone……………..just wondering where it went……
4-1 !!!
October 21, 2008 at 21:09
vela time please
October 21, 2008 at 21:09
very boring gnarls
October 21, 2008 at 21:09
Geoff so do i
thats why i find the song “no pun intended” oh so funny
October 21, 2008 at 21:10
woah
October 21, 2008 at 21:10
ebuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
October 21, 2008 at 21:10
someone needs to hurt the cnut nani real baaaaaaaaaaaad
October 21, 2008 at 21:11
Where the fuck was Song, well done Eboue
October 21, 2008 at 21:11
England Number 1 is down injuerd.. come on son u can do it
October 21, 2008 at 21:11
Ebouuuuuue
October 21, 2008 at 21:11
almunia the king
October 21, 2008 at 21:12
well done eboue
October 21, 2008 at 21:12
sub time yet?!
October 21, 2008 at 21:12
Almunia for England
October 21, 2008 at 21:12
i say Keep England Number 1 as Captin his plaid very well indeed.
October 21, 2008 at 21:12
its a shame the same kinda powers dont help Gallas as much
October 21, 2008 at 21:13
ramsey coming on
October 21, 2008 at 21:13
eboue was gold there, put his body in no worries
October 21, 2008 at 21:14
soon
October 21, 2008 at 21:14
LOL
Finest
in fact JC Bose was the first guy to demonstrate a wireless message being transmitted
October 21, 2008 at 21:14
we want VELA!
we want VELA!
we want VELA!
we want VELA!
October 21, 2008 at 21:16
oh so yeah take off diaby instead of denilson!?!?!?!
October 21, 2008 at 21:16
all aplaud
October 21, 2008 at 21:16
You got Ramsey
October 21, 2008 at 21:16
“CLAPS DIABY”
October 21, 2008 at 21:16
As I’ve said before Eboue is a great right back and Diaby could replace Vieira, but Song is shockingly bad as right back, centre back or Defensive midfield.
Bringing Diaby off says it all, what a blind cunt.
October 21, 2008 at 21:17
well done diaby that was a top notch performance
October 21, 2008 at 21:17
can someone clarify why Djourou isn’t about at all?
October 21, 2008 at 21:18
diaby will be short of match fitness and wenger will want him for west ham
October 21, 2008 at 21:18
probably not match fit yet
October 21, 2008 at 21:18
any ideas on eduardo’s return?
October 21, 2008 at 21:19
Geoff, Diaby is just coming back from injury, maybe 70 minutes is enough for now .. he didn’t get alot of minutes in the last game
October 21, 2008 at 21:19
he’s ahead of schedule…still a month away or so off though
October 21, 2008 at 21:19
Adebayor Papa, I believe it was Nikola Tesla, who was Serbian.
http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_whoradio.html
October 21, 2008 at 21:20
You’re both wrong there, Bose invented direct reflecting sound, not the wireless radio.
They have been a cllent of mine since 1985 so I should know.
October 21, 2008 at 21:20
Ramsey for Denilson?
October 21, 2008 at 21:20
treze13
The striker is continuing his recovery from a fractured leg. Speaking on October 2, Wenger said: “Eduardo is doing very well but is not close to play. Eduardo will be OK before Christmas, of course.”
October 21, 2008 at 21:21
ugh…f*ckin hell
October 21, 2008 at 21:21
Song the cunt im blaming him
October 21, 2008 at 21:21
Our back line resembles a sieve
October 21, 2008 at 21:21
That may have been Song’s fault!
October 21, 2008 at 21:22
may have been – WAS songs fault
October 21, 2008 at 21:22
no-one answered, where Djourou?
October 21, 2008 at 21:22
What a great assist, who was it Carlos?, Guiza? no, it was fucking Song the useless cunt.
October 21, 2008 at 21:23
bloody song again
October 21, 2008 at 21:23
in the dog house jimmy
October 21, 2008 at 21:24
you had my apology this morning Geoff. Song is no longer on my Xmas card list….. the useless lump
October 21, 2008 at 21:24
i answeres jimmy- lacking match fitness
October 21, 2008 at 21:24
almunia should have done better on that
October 21, 2008 at 21:25
Crap Defending again – we’re lucky they are shite!
October 21, 2008 at 21:26
Tesla invented/discovered wireless, broadcasting, I think that is correct and that I am not wrong about that.
October 21, 2008 at 21:26
wish ramsey had shot there
October 21, 2008 at 21:26
Songs face is now on my Darts Board
October 21, 2008 at 21:27
Geoff
you are talking about Bose, the manufacturers of Audio systems
i am talking abt J C Bose who is lesser known and actual inventor of wireless communication phenomena.
He was staunchly against patents ( socialist) and Tesla patented a “use” of the technology discovered by J C Bose and hence popularly known as inventor of Wireless.
no way i mean to reduce his contribution, but if you look up recent citations in IEEE journals, JC Bose has been mentioned as inventor of Wireless communication.
October 21, 2008 at 21:27
JIMMY – djourou on
October 21, 2008 at 21:27
at last, JD
October 21, 2008 at 21:27
Fuck me. TW14 for JD. thats stupid. he should have taken song the Mong off instead
October 21, 2008 at 21:28
JD on for … Walcott??????
Song stays on???
No Vela????
He relly does(nt) know best.
October 21, 2008 at 21:28
JD20 ITs ABOUT TIME
October 21, 2008 at 21:29
should have taken nasri off to keep him fresh. carrying a few niggles
October 21, 2008 at 21:29
yeayyyyyyyyyyyyy VELA IS ON
October 21, 2008 at 21:29
My brother’s fault, he said Djourou wasn’t even on the bench and I hadn’t read anywhere he’s injured
Vela on
October 21, 2008 at 21:29
vela ella ela ela eh eh eh
October 21, 2008 at 21:29
velaaa
October 21, 2008 at 21:29
THANK FUCK FOR THAT.
October 21, 2008 at 21:29
Oooh, take part of it back … although what Vela is supposed to do in 4 mins?
October 21, 2008 at 21:29
now vela on, this is the team we should have started with with the exception og walcott in, song out!
October 21, 2008 at 21:30
and diaby in, denilson out!
October 21, 2008 at 21:32
denilson played well.
clichy is in super form
October 21, 2008 at 21:32
Tears of a clown indeed mate
October 21, 2008 at 21:32
No Ade papa, it was Tesla
The technology comes from the Tesla coil which is used to power yourr computer.
Tesla wanted to provide free electricity to the world, he was a humanitarian, socialism is a political word for statists.
October 21, 2008 at 21:33
Tesla coil
last time i heard that word was when i was playing Command & Conquer
October 21, 2008 at 21:33
Song o Song
u did it again !!
October 21, 2008 at 21:34
man scum tore celtic a new ass.
disappointing
October 21, 2008 at 21:35
that was nice play he should have shot tho
October 21, 2008 at 21:36
Okay Papa, Finest and accepted Raddy! whew.
October 21, 2008 at 21:36
finest..
maybe that’s why Tesla had a love hate relationship with Marconi
why would he go and get his technology patented if he was a humanitarian?
He was mighty pissed when Marconi got Nobel in 1911
October 21, 2008 at 21:36
ok they just topped it on the commentary “CONFIDENCE FKIN TABLETS!!!!!” piss off itv
October 21, 2008 at 21:37
eboue should have pulled the trigger on that
October 21, 2008 at 21:37
Song didnt take his Confidence tablets today did he
October 21, 2008 at 21:37
aaaaaaaaaaaarooooooooon
October 21, 2008 at 21:37
Oh Ramsey the man!
October 21, 2008 at 21:37
Play the boyo and he will score!!
October 21, 2008 at 21:37
RAMSEY!!!!!!!!
October 21, 2008 at 21:37
ramsey !!!!!
October 21, 2008 at 21:37
RAMSEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
October 21, 2008 at 21:38
And my choice for Diaby’s back up…..Aaron Ramsey, take a bow both of us, now fuck off Song.
October 21, 2008 at 21:38
What do you think of Ramsey Pedro? – looks like he may come good sooner than 4 years……
October 21, 2008 at 21:38
villareal make a new one for allaborg
6-3
October 21, 2008 at 21:38
Great skill by Eboue..
October 21, 2008 at 21:38
superb
October 21, 2008 at 21:38
treze13
i still cant get over the Confidence tablets LOL
October 21, 2008 at 21:38
Ramsey !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
October 21, 2008 at 21:39
5 goals great, 2 against bad and they could have scored more. I know which number will dominate the headlines but I can’t help but focus more on the shocking defence. Better teams will find us out and better teams won’t gift us as many goals
Yes it’s a makeshift backline but it was comedy defending at times
October 21, 2008 at 21:39
Tesla had tons of patents, Tesla died penniless, I do not see a problem with getting a patent.
http://home.earthlink.net/~drestinblack/humanitarian.htm
Find out more about Tesla before judging him, he was a known humanitarian.
October 21, 2008 at 21:39
raif that commentary is really shocking…… i would shut it off but its almost enteratining
October 21, 2008 at 21:39
You know what I said about Ramsey, look at my posts and go back this week.
Night all, I’m off!
October 21, 2008 at 21:40
MoM ???
October 21, 2008 at 21:40
diaby for MoM
October 21, 2008 at 21:41
i might be wrong finest
will surely read up
peace out !!
October 21, 2008 at 21:41
I agree with you Geoff, Pedro told me he wouldn’t be good enough until he was 22 – mind you that was when we were all affected by the interlull madness!
October 21, 2008 at 21:41
treze13
i agree, i only listen to it only to hear what kinda rubbish were going to here come out of there mouths.
October 21, 2008 at 21:42
i second Treze
October 21, 2008 at 21:42
Le-Chump of the week.
David Pleate with the Number One Comment
“Confidence tablets”
October 21, 2008 at 21:42
All good Adebayor papa, I’ll read up about Bose
October 21, 2008 at 21:42
i would like to nominate beach bum for the MOM!
October 21, 2008 at 21:43
glad i took the day off work, now i can start getting on the heinekens!
October 21, 2008 at 21:44
hey aaron ramsey looks like a quality player….
just worried about the defence as long we clincial, we shall be up for a rollercoaster season
October 21, 2008 at 21:44
Rasputin… it’s called I.W.S., not an interlull!
Again, lets not get too excited about him… he’s not going to win us the Prem, but he did look sharp!
I have plenty to write about in tomorrows post!
I’m off to create a masterpiece!
Good evening all!
October 21, 2008 at 21:44
I’m going to take a different tact with JD20.
Notice Wenger keeps playing the blokes who we bag, & refuses to give the ones we like a good go. Well.
Johan is shit I’d get rid of him & Vela………
No I can’t do it
Johan’s cameo was impressive
October 21, 2008 at 21:45
great result but man did we look dodgy at the back.
goog on ramsey at the end. fenerbahce looked gobsmacked.
v dodgy at the back. big time.
come on you gunners!!
October 21, 2008 at 21:45
Theo just said “everone got their jobs right tonight”.
Wonder what job Song was given?
October 21, 2008 at 21:46
Jack who?
We’ve still got him to come!
October 21, 2008 at 21:46
See ya Geoff, I off to the shower, no beers for me yet evo, I’m off to work later.
October 21, 2008 at 21:46
trindle
hahaha i was thinking the same thing.
not unless his trying to cover up for him and protect hima little bit
October 21, 2008 at 21:48
Sorry Pedro – yes IWS, I did read that excellent post of yours.
Arseblog calls it the interlull, he’s not a bad pundit either.
I promise never to say I told you so again, but you know Ramsey will feature for us in the Prem this season.
October 21, 2008 at 21:49
lol…ramsey is definately something!
im off, night all!
October 21, 2008 at 21:49
Probably reading from the Book of Wenger … or AW is standing behind the camera !
October 21, 2008 at 21:50
setanta commentators are just ripping into us at the minute. cunts
October 21, 2008 at 21:52
they seem to think that we are a dictatorship and its a problem.
oh yeah and we dont spend a fortune. the fella on the right even said vela didnt get on. jokers.
October 21, 2008 at 21:52
night Mark
October 21, 2008 at 21:52
evo i agree with what they are saying re defense. Our defense is average @ best.
October 21, 2008 at 21:53
yeah but that fat cunt sitting on the end says Almunia is rubbish. hardly.
October 21, 2008 at 21:53
Evo – What are they saying ?!
October 21, 2008 at 21:54
For the record Rasputin:
I said:
‘I’d love him to be perfect, but we’ll have to wait 5 years to see the best of him…. then he’ll get good enough and ask for a move back to Cardiff city…’
and:
‘I’m not saying Ramsey wont be great… he will be. I am merely saying he isn’t the answer to our issues this year. To say he will be winning us league titles in 2 years is also a bit hopeful… he is only young, give him a chance.’
Those two comments are a bit different to saying he wont be good enough until he is 22!
Anyway… I am pleased!
October 21, 2008 at 21:54
Yes I that was a bad call. The Waiter was great.
October 21, 2008 at 21:54
how good is the special one character, fucking funny
October 21, 2008 at 21:55
Diaby showed in 70 minuts more than Adebayor has in 8 games.Great result in a cauldron,though it could have been 7-5.Song is a cunt,but now a goalscoring cunt.
October 21, 2008 at 21:55
“He is 17 and a half years old, you have to be realistic as well. I think nowhere in the world do players so young get regular chances in the squad as much as here at Arsenal Football Club.”
“On top of that, you cannot rush me to make it any quicker,”
Arsene earlier in the week.
October 21, 2008 at 21:56
the fat fella is clueless. ALmunia did well tonight. he was busy enough anyway. and we were without 3 of our back 4. great result again.
October 21, 2008 at 21:56
my favourite is sven
October 21, 2008 at 21:56
Good result but our defence looked exposed like everyone has said…but i think this may be down to tactics played we tried to squeeze the play up pushing our defenders a few yards making Alumnia play sweeper, but in the last 15/20 mins we stepped back a bit. We were successfully in the tactic most times as they were caught offside most of the time.
Like I said earlier JD should be given a chance at DM
Nite all
October 21, 2008 at 21:58
the rooney one is gold as well
October 21, 2008 at 21:58
right im off Grovers. till tomorrow night
October 21, 2008 at 21:58
catch ya raif
October 21, 2008 at 22:02
did anyone predict 5-2 by the way?
October 21, 2008 at 22:03
i was gonna say i bet ramsey scores when he came on
October 21, 2008 at 22:04
THe words “pub after work” and “monopolising the tv” are ringing in my ears … “compromise” will follow shortly! a 5 – 2 win in Turkey is the biz, shit defence or not.
Night Grovers
October 21, 2008 at 22:06
reserves lost 1-0
October 21, 2008 at 22:07
the fat fella described holding midfielder denilson as ‘powderpuff’. fair comment? seems harsh for the young lad winning 5-2 in Turkey
October 21, 2008 at 22:13
yeah i thought it was a tough call. who gives a fuck anyway, we dont play a setup that is reliant on that anyway. Cesc and Denilson alternate between who will go forward and who will stay back. it happens in every game i watch
October 21, 2008 at 22:15
diaby needs to stay fit denilson i hate him song is a clown but scored a nice volley rambo is world class adebayor lol ….
October 21, 2008 at 22:16
do you think it is limiting cesc going forward though? gotta keep that kid happy. .dont know if denilson is worth compromising his game for.
disappointed not to see Bendtner tonight. was he on the bench?
October 21, 2008 at 22:20
yeah he was along with RVP
Substitutes
Lukasz Fabianski
Nicklas Bendtner
Carlos Vela
(86) Aaron Ramsey
(73) Kieran Gibbs
Johan Djourou
(84) Robin Van Persie
October 21, 2008 at 22:23
you could possibly say it is limiting, however Nasri is there on the wing to sort that out and is proving to be the buy we hoped for!
October 21, 2008 at 22:24
Mandanda Song is a master of goals. he’s scored one and cused us four in three games. The guy is useless
October 21, 2008 at 22:25
What four has he caused ?!
October 21, 2008 at 22:31
Arsene Wenger is a bad judge, he does not realise Song is rubbish.
October 21, 2008 at 22:33
Its your site Pedro and you are almost as stubborn as AW.
Also you have the ability to track back and reproduce selective quotes.
Those who read the ongoing debate between us will remember that I didn’t say that Ramsey was the answer. I said (not an exact repro) that I though he might be the answer to a partner for Cesc in a couple of years and you jumped on me and said he wouldn’t be ready for 5 years.
Come on, be a man – admit that perhaps you underestimated the pace at which he has developed and he could conceivably become an important player in the next two years. No-ones going to think any the less of you!!
October 21, 2008 at 22:35
1.he didnt close down the substitute at Sunderland
2. he didnt close down on pinnear against newcastle
3. he gave away a stupid free kick against fener and with the ensuing cross got himself caught out in the far post
4. and the second fener goal he heads a ball that is beyond him causing alumnia to mistime the projectile of the ball… he virtually passes to guiza. If he had allowed that ball to drop i believe Alumnia could have rushed of his line , and denied guiza
October 21, 2008 at 22:35
is it true he’s rigobert song’s nephew? heard that from a very unreliable source.
October 21, 2008 at 22:36
sorry keyser the no. 2 was aginst everton
October 21, 2008 at 22:37
freduardo its true ur unreliable source is right probably for once
October 21, 2008 at 22:37
fred – yes he is. And I think he has potential to be a good player at CB (for what its worth)
October 21, 2008 at 22:37
franchise that is harsh. i aint his biggest fan, but for the 1st fener goal tonight there was someone conmpletely free at the back post. Sure Song didnt clear it, but he stopped his man from scoring. someone else lost their man.
October 21, 2008 at 22:41
I disagree with u goonerman… Kolo and Gallas are very good CB but their main deficieny is the lack of height. To think that Song has less overall qualities than them and is probably shorter (I would confirm in a minute) just tells me that he can not succeed at CB at least for Arsenal. I might be wrong but I dont think Song is doing himself ne favours with his lethargic performances
October 21, 2008 at 22:43
Only caught the 2nd half after school(here in the U.S.). Defending looked really shady. The speed of toure and Gallas would have helped a lot today. Great shwoing by Diaby. Theo looked really good. Where was RVP today?
And Almunia. He’s really improved.
October 21, 2008 at 22:43
Conceeding the free kick makes him as gulty as Ade who lost his guy to the far post. He did the same again against a thirty hundred year old roberto carlos. If it were another referee he would have gotten sent off
October 21, 2008 at 22:46
u wouldn’t believe it according to skysports kolo, willy, and song are all 1.83m tall. hmmmmmmmm
October 21, 2008 at 22:46
Roberto Carlos changed the direction of his run, and ran straight at Song to get him sent off..
October 21, 2008 at 22:48
And if Gilberto had of done that first block, the invisible wall would have been a hero..
October 21, 2008 at 22:49
Avenell are u serious ? Songs eye’s weren’t on the ball both times he was the obstruction watch the highlights carefully
October 21, 2008 at 22:50
Franchise – I think people are being harsh, yeah he hasn’t had the best of starts but then he hasn’t had a regular run and hasn’t been played much in one particular position either.
1. He did close him down, he just didn’t want to foul him soo close to the area giving away the free kick, making the right choices in such areas come with experience and regular games. The shot was pin point, i’d say an inch or two in any direction would have lead it onto the post, crossbar or fingertips of Almunia.
2. He didnt close down Pienaar because he had two men to mark and was caught in between, Denilson was blamed just as much because he didn’t track the run of Osman, it was his first game at right back aswell, Eboue could’v helped out.
3. He had two players to deal with there and even then the person he was marking had his arms all over him and was pushing him down.
4. You could blame Song for this but it was an awkward header, he lets that drop and Guiza’s in behind anyway with an easier oppurtunity.
October 21, 2008 at 22:51
I think, in Clichy, Nasri, Ramsey and Wilshire, we have emerging players who not only have skill and ability in abundance, but who are very determined, work really hard and are like terriers snapping at the heels of the opposition if they lose the ball. Nasri and Ramsey chased down the ball if they gave it away and often managed to regain possession. Clichy has played like this for a season or two and is an example to some of the more lethargic players who think that chasing back is beneath them.
October 21, 2008 at 22:51
Hero how? In both occassions Song had enough time to chase after the ball and deal with it but cos he’s as heavy as an elephant he chose to obstruct the players
October 21, 2008 at 22:52
GEOFF SONG SCORED HAHAHAHA! NOW GET OF THE MANS ARSE! HE DID GOOD (SOMETIMES)
October 21, 2008 at 22:52
I did, they played it back even that tosser Arsenal hating Pleat agreed..
October 21, 2008 at 22:52
Carlos ran into him on purpose the second time, or so the commentators were saying continously.
October 21, 2008 at 22:52
Rasputin, if he is ready in 2 years time… brilliant!
Diaby will only be 24 in 2 years and I imagine that he will be Cesc’s long term partner… then you have Denilson… another favourite who is only young…
Still, the exciting thing is… he does give us a viable option off the bench and he looks very hungry!
If I was to make a predicton… I’d say if Ramsey is going to play anywhere while he is young… it will be out wide.
October 21, 2008 at 22:54
Franchise, what i am saying is that once the free kick is given, it has to be defended. like you say, Ade lost his man. unforgiveable if it was 0-0. To say Song is at fault for the goal is a little harsh. also I am playing devils advocate a small bit, as I would have JD every day of the week ahead of Song.
October 21, 2008 at 22:56
Ramsey’s place is clearly in the Middle. Along with Cesc….i saw him make a flamini tackle…It was almost as beautiful as his pin-point passing.
That boi is trully amazing.
October 21, 2008 at 22:56
Second goal kick was songs fault from the perspective of the freekick… but the goal… well, I’d say it was a foul…
October 21, 2008 at 22:58
Pedro – IMO Ramsey is every bit as good as Denilson already.
Every time he has played for an Arsenal team, he has come on in central midfield, or part of a midfoeld three – why put him out wide when we now have plenty of good wide players?
I agree Diaby will get precedence over him and judging by his first half performance today, that would be justified, but there were glimpses of the old ‘dwell on the ball too long’ and wayward passes that used to be part of his game in the second half. I meant what I said in an earlier post though – Diaby looked like very bit as good a striker as Ade on todays performance.
October 21, 2008 at 22:59
The only thing good i can see about denilson is that he is Tough and he doesnt get injured like the rest do…
I think we played the ball to Nasri too much and dropped the intensity from an 8 to a 2 and a half….it was so bad.
We shouldve lit up the score board….at least 7 goals.
October 21, 2008 at 22:59
Diaby as Fabregas’s partner would be great, just a BIG question on his fitness, if not Ramsey will give Denilson a run after xmas for that position..
October 21, 2008 at 22:59
I respect Wenger’s judgement but sometimes when he makes decisions I am baffled. There must be a lot going on in training sessions that actually doesn’t materialize in matches. For one I cant see what Alexandre Song offers this team. He scored wow! And??? Whis game could have easily gone the other way at two-nil if Song got sent off (which would have been a fair decision) then we would have been fucked. The guy is like a time bomb. He sent one away on loan to Milan not knowing that there’s one still in the team
October 21, 2008 at 23:00
Can’t disagree on either count there!
Denilson just doesn’t have that spark you look for in a centre mid… Ramsey does, Diaby does and so does Cesc.
Still, that has never stopped Wenger persisting has it?
October 21, 2008 at 23:00
David… Denilson was missing all last year becuase of injury!
October 21, 2008 at 23:04
song got pushed down by the fenerbache guy and silvestre had it ricochet of his leg, so some bad luck involved there
October 21, 2008 at 23:05
TRUE!
But R.V.P wouldve been broken into pieces with the kinda tackles that Denilson got already…
Ras i can say i agree with you on that one…I think Diaby loves to dribble a bit too much there are times he shouldve let it out quicker to theo who made R. Carlos look like he wasnt there.
Ramsey Belongs in the middle ahead of Diaby…in my mind. The boi needs to grow up quick and our midfield would be Orgasmic! I think Diaby can go out wide and Rest Theo or Left with Nasri…but he played the striking role today very nicely. He’s not as quick as Ade tho!
October 21, 2008 at 23:06
franchise – Exactly, how much do we actually know about the players save say for what we see on mtachday, people have said we have 31 trainers or staff allocated for training and then don’t get why we need to rest players or only ease players into the team ?!
Training sessions are timed down to the second, so is their diet and their bodies assessed for fitness and injury down to the minute detail.
On the other hand we could have scored another 10 goals, In the end it was 5-2.
October 21, 2008 at 23:08
Silvestre was solid today…I just wish he stop defending like a United Player and stop booting the ball out aimlessly like that.
Hand it out wide to a full back.
My man of the Match
Almunia.
October 21, 2008 at 23:10
id prefer the ball booted into the crowd than being stripped of it and the ball played into the box by the opposition
October 21, 2008 at 23:10
I find that approach refreshing David!
There is nothing worse than watching the Arsenal defence dither with the ball… you needn’t worry, he’ll be playing the Arsenal way soon!
He is a monster though… I didn’t realise how big he was!
I was impressed with his signing in the summer… I think that will prove to be an invaluable signing.
October 21, 2008 at 23:11
A midfield three of Diaby, Ramsey and Cesc is a very exciting prospect for the future. All three can score goals from outside the box as well as providing ‘killer passes’ and producing the intricate link-up Wengerball play the purists so admire. An on-form Eduardo as the ‘fox in the box’ in front of that midfield would tear apart any defense in the world.
October 21, 2008 at 23:12
How lovely, a game where we scored lots of goals – which is very good – but could easily have conceded lots of goals – which is very bad.
I thought Almunia was terrific. He had to play on the edge of his box like a defender for most of the 2nd half. Would Gallas or Toure have improved that situation i wonder?
Big worry, after a good european performance comes a rubbish pl performance. This game was a master class for opposition managers to show how not to play against us. Wanna guess what Zolas gonna be showing his players tmoro?
October 21, 2008 at 23:13
I bet RvP was annoyed at not getting a game!
This time last year we wouldn’t have been able to rest him… now it is not a problem.
It’s just a shame we don’t have a defender like Chillieni… really reliable no nonsense type of player…
October 21, 2008 at 23:13
If that’s the midfield 3, all 3 of them would have to learn to defend and share the responsibility together, Nasri works his socks off though, a fit Rosicky in that midfield would e great to.
October 21, 2008 at 23:14
Keyser 5-2 good score line but we all know that trophies are not handed out in October. If we keep accommodating the likes of Song in our firts team then be rest assured that we wouldnt win fuck all. Fergie realised this thats why he replaced furniture like Alan Smith, Quinton Fortune, Kleberson etc and replaced them with Tevez, Berba, Nani, Hargreaves, etc. My point is the game didnt tell me nethin that I didnt already know. Playing Song in any position would get me as worried as in the past when we use to play Cygan and Senderos
October 21, 2008 at 23:14
we were playing a massive offside trap for the whole game cause guiza was trying to get us on the break. our whole team was playing up the pitch so almunia was out of his area heaps, but played superbly minus the mistake on their 2nd goal
October 21, 2008 at 23:14
Anyway, I must hit the sack…
The post is prepared for tomorrow…!
Happy blogging!
October 21, 2008 at 23:15
Ramsey is flamini with a vision to go with Cesc,
Cesc-Ramsey try out against west ham if we are winning by 70th minute.
October 21, 2008 at 23:15
song is worth of a good CB.
What he lacks in height just like gallas, he makes up in composure and amazing strength.
If a defender stands his ground like a pillar, and you cannot budge him, as a striker you will not have much of a chance to win highballs.
It is just down to song’s positioning and accuracy in determining the flight of ball, which will come with a good run of games as a CB and not RB or CDM, which i might add is a fucking joke to play him there.
October 21, 2008 at 23:16
Ramsey made my assesment of him come true, strong in tackles, upper body strength of a monster for a 17 year kid, maturity and vision only second to cesc on the field.
I have said it a zillion times, i say it again… Cesc-Ramsey….. is the pair that can win us something this year.
Night all , it was fun.
October 21, 2008 at 23:17
night you guys
October 21, 2008 at 23:17
Enough about Song for now. I can tell u for a fact that three four weeks ago I was one of the ppl advocating that he was being judged harshly. Its like scales have fallen off my eyes and I can now see why Pedro and Geoff never rated him
October 21, 2008 at 23:18
Evo ure absolutely right…
The goals were nice…We scored 4 from below the 50 hr mark…the rest of the game seemed like a competition between Guiza and Adebayor…Who will be offsides the most!
I think Adebayor won…………..*heavy sigh*
October 21, 2008 at 23:21
In my negative assessment of Arsenal players I’m always wishing that I’m proved wrong cos if I keep getting it right then we would be fucked. I hope Song steps up and lives up to the potential that he probably shows le prof in training and his displays at the African Nations Cup.
October 21, 2008 at 23:24
just saw the stoke-spuds highlights on setanta. they are in the poo big time. bents consolation goal was offside so should have been 2-0 or even 3-0 if stoke didnt miss the last penalty. dawsons red card was exactly like the tackle on Eduardo, suprised the stoke lad didnt have a broken leg – it was a replica tackle.
Woodgate looks rubbish too, glad we didnt buy him!
October 21, 2008 at 23:26
Franchise – So, accept the result for what it was then, shaky defence great attack, despite several key players out, if Fergie has to play without Ferdinand, Vidic and Neville/ Brown then I bet he’d take 5-2 away to Fenerbahce in Turkey aswell.
Tevez, Berba, Nani, Hargeaves ? Only 100 million pounds there.
October 21, 2008 at 23:27
fuck me I really enjoyed that
October 21, 2008 at 23:28
id have nearly taken a draw tonight, so fuck this defence bollocks, lets just keep scoring!
October 21, 2008 at 23:28
just watched the madrid highlights. Are they a dutch team?
October 21, 2008 at 23:28
When you owe £650 mill what’s a £100 million here and there..
October 21, 2008 at 23:29
I didn’t rate Fener tonight or Porto in the last CL game. I guess we will only see if we are really good enough to win something when we play Manu, Chelski and Pool in the Prem.
October 21, 2008 at 23:32
Keyser 100mil I know. The cash he spent just shows that he realised that things have changed and that if he needed to match chelsea that he had to offload his average players. we couldn’t afford to do that but sometimes I think wenger is more interested in the development of his young players careers rather than the club’s. We need silverware badly and if he keeps playing players like Song (even worse when they are out of position) then we are fucked. He probably doesn’t rate Djourou thats why he plays Song ahead of him. Even when Djourou came on he slotted into midfield. REALLY REALLY STRANGE. but hey we won
October 21, 2008 at 23:34
diaby was the ducks nuts tonight. he needs to get a run of games now to show us again what he can do!
fuck i love winning, it just makes your day!
October 21, 2008 at 23:34
Rasputin you are spot on there. I would have fancied any of the top four in their current form to annhilate the porto and fener sides we have faced
October 21, 2008 at 23:38
we annhilated them too
October 21, 2008 at 23:40
Almunia looked great at CB but he isn’t good enough. No matter who we play in defence we always look like we are all over the place and Almunia is the only one who is always playing.
Says it all really, both goals were his fault and his reaction to the first tells the story. He made a couple of smart saves on the edge of the box but their finishing was awful with shots hit straight at him.
Did you see him try slide tackiling the forward who’s shot was cleared off the line, please tell me has anyone seen a keeper constantly going for the ball feet first.
Yes he did his job but we were all over the shop yet again and he let in two soft goals.
Dennilson is a good player but we need more power in the centre of the park just in front of the defence.
Other than that we were fantastic and Cesc, Nasri, Theo and Diaby were outstanding. Ade was ok for about 10 minutes and after he scored it looked like he thought it was job done. The subs were wrong again and too late in the match even though the great Sir Alf made a difference to our tiring team.
Diaby was tired but his presence scared them and Dennilson should have made way. Arsen I believe hasn’t learned and went defensive at the end and by doing this he invited them on. Luckily they were fucked after 80 minutes and it didn’t do to much damage this time.
October 21, 2008 at 23:40
I say this all the time and people probably get bored of it but we’re not United or Chelsea we can’t compete like for like at least not yet, I don’t think Wenger would have put such emphasis in youth if Abramovich had not come along.
We need silverware badly ? That doesn’t really matter we had a good season last year and people will look to blame this, that and everything but the only two teams that finished above us were Chelsea and United, the same two that reached the Champions League final andf are probably favourites again this year.
Chelsea didn’t build a squad they bought a World Class one over a couple of seasons, we can’t do that it takes time, players leave and move on and it’s going to take the players coming in time to adjust, but we seem to want the same sort of instand impact the players at Chelsea and United make.
It takes longer than that, 8 games into a season, where Denilson and Song have played a handful of games each and they’re supposed to work out new positions and responsibilites instantly ?!
Djourou’s just come back so he eased him in, he probably played him in midfield to see how he does with less pressure and also because he doesn’t have to move the back four around again because they’ve played less than two games there together.
October 21, 2008 at 23:46
So now we’re moaning about Almunia ? How the hell was the first goal his fault ?!
What was wrong with the subs ? Too defensive ? One of them scored..
October 21, 2008 at 23:48
I am happy that we won and so convincingly too but there are things wrong and they should be rectified before it’s to late.
To any neutral watching us must be a dream but hey they just stick them cunts on the main channel again.
The commentator at our match said lets go to the BIG game of the night and see how the European Champions are getting on. We don’t want to know about the rotten cheating cunts ITV.
Wasn’t Juve V Real THE big game in Europe tonight or that boring Scotland V Scotland encounter that they strangely seem to get far to often.
October 21, 2008 at 23:48
5-2 awesome result the more i think about it. Almunia starting to convince me more and more. and another teenager scores for us. a good day. night grovers.
October 21, 2008 at 23:49
Good point Keyser. U’ve just confirmed one of my worst fears that qualifying for the champions league by finishing in the top four is now our ’silverware’
October 21, 2008 at 23:51
According to Keyser all gooners should be prepared for mediocricity
October 21, 2008 at 23:54
Almunia was the man of the match!
Also great job by Eboue on both ends of the pitch…
October 21, 2008 at 23:54
Keyser
We wouldn’t have to experiment if he kept the players who left last year. Almunia didn’t have a clue where his defenders were for the first goal just the same as on Saturday but I suppose you think that he was good because he did his job sweeping up the defence.
The subs worked against a weakened team and I already said Ramsey made a difference so read the comment properly.
After he took Diaby off they came bombing at us for about ten minutes and that was my point. He did it at Chavs last year and the year before when we were winning and he did it at Brum that fucked up our season.
Fener were chasing and very tired so tonight happily it all worked out ok.
October 21, 2008 at 23:54
Come on dude LoL stop being soo melodramatic, people say Song’s shit, Denilson’ shit, Eboue’s shit because players at United and Chelsea are soo much better, but then it’s that bit harder to match them in the first place isn’t it ?!
We’re not going to win things because of one or two players, we’re going to win as a team and the longer they get together the better they should get.
The bar has been raised, we’re not soo much ducking underneath it as trying our best to reach our way up to it.
October 21, 2008 at 23:56
ElTel – agreed. there are cunting bastards all over the place that love bandwagoning. its their favourite past time to suck up the arses of man scum and cunts like that.
at least SBS TV here in Oz had the guts to show the juve vs real game as thats what most of the punters over here would have wanted to see.
October 21, 2008 at 23:57
Good debate, we managed to find plenty of faults in a 5:2 victory – what would a spuds fan give to even scrape a 1 nil result!
Night all…….
October 21, 2008 at 23:59
franchise – If the team thought like the doommongers out there they wouldn’t get out of bed, there’s positives and negatives about everything.
eltel08 – Your joking right ? So while a Fenerbahce player’s smashing the ball across goal, only for Silvestre to hack wildly at it, he should not only save it but make sure the defenders were properly prepared in the first place, a defence he’s played about one and a half games with ?!
Sagna was injured against the Chavs and what are you on about at Brum ?!
October 21, 2008 at 23:59
see ya rasputin
October 22, 2008 at 00:02
El Te..l I agree about Wengers substitutions he takes off the players who can hold a ball up like Pires in the Champions League final..
Not on Almunia, definatly not tonight..
October 22, 2008 at 00:05
the mancs just beat the equivalent of a championship side 3 nil so fucking what, They don’t look that good for all thier millions. I’m sick of people saying “wait until we play someone good” didn’t everyone say that until dudu was injured last season? How is leading the league until you get a terrible injury and disgraceful reffing decision ending up 3rd mediocrity? Obviously it’s not good enough but hardly mediocre
October 22, 2008 at 00:08
Keyser when u going to war you do not only think about ur troops u should be also aware of ur advesaries. Fine lets not compare our players with our trophy rivals lets do an in-house comparison. I made a point today about what players like Ade Eboue and denilson (the players that seem to recieve the most stick) offer the club but regards to Song I still cant see it. Maybe he needs a nother 60 appearances to the 40 he’s grabbed already then he can truly showcase his talents. Im just saying that Im not the even in the top 100,000 football analyst in the world but I can see enough to exploit if Song played in defence or midfield in an opposing team. A seasoned manager like fergie would have gone for the jugular today
October 22, 2008 at 00:08
Glad I watched the game, because if i’d have based my opinion on some of the comments here tonight i’d have gone to bed thinking we lost!
October 22, 2008 at 00:10
Arsenal successfully rampaged Fenerbahce to win 5-2 on a marvelous but very gritty night in Istanbul.
Arsene Wenger’s line-up was very conservative. The same back four that finished out the Everton game were used while Robin van Persie was sacrificed to allow a five-man midfield which included Abou Diaby.
Expectedly, the atmosphere at the Sukru Saracoglu Stadium was very comfortable – to be notoriously sarcastic. And that paid off for the home side when Almunia was called into action by running off his line to stop a potential goal-scoring opportunity for Fenerbahce with only four minutes played.
But the fanatic Istanbul crowd were calmed after just eleven minutes. First Emmanuel Adebayor – courtesy of Fabregas’ through-ball and Walcott’s little flick to let him off – met goalkeeper Demirel in close-range, and he coolly slid the past him into the right corner of the net. A minute later, Theo Walcott also took advantage of another intelligent pass from Fabregas and with the help of his pace, Walcott rounded off the keeper to give Arsenal an absolutely dream start against the odds in Turkey.
The hosts did make their response eight minutes after. A dully defended free kick was eventually tapped home to the side of Almunia by Mikael Silvestre. At 2-1, after just 20 minutes, many anticipated a thrilling Turkish night.
And the hype did not disappoint with yet again another turn-around three minutes after Fenerbahce’s goal. Abou Diaby held off two defenders on the left of the penalty box and finished with his left foot to restore Arsenal’s two-goal cushion. Both teams continued their clumsy defending, and at half-time, the scoreline should or could have been double what it read.
Four minutes after the second-half’s start, the match was left to the dead by a goal from Alex Song of all people. The Cameroonian fiercely volleyed home a lazily headed ball by Fenebahce’s defense. The Turks then mounted a surge for an astonishing comeback – which was somehow a good bet. After all Turkey is a nation of drama according to Euro 2008’s narrators.
Chances of that revenge were bettered when Daniel Guiza chipped over Almunia for a glimmer of hope at 4-2 after some unaware defending by Arsenal in the 77th minute. Theo Walcott and Emmanuel Adebayor were then replaced by Johan Djourou and Carlos Vela respectively.
Soon, it was into injury time and a fresh Gunner would enjoy a memorable fortune. Aaron Ramsey who had replaced the hardworking Abou Diaby precisely stroke from about 18 yards out to conclude a emphatic night.
October 22, 2008 at 00:10
QoS u right we should stop moaning and start to celebrate. It was deeply worrying to see how we were sliced open at will even with a five man midfield
October 22, 2008 at 00:13
If Fergie had of had Arsenals budget for players or any other clubs in the Premiership over the last 20 years he would not have won half of what he has,..
October 22, 2008 at 00:14
i will be celebrating in 2 hours time with a few heinekens at the pub. its only 10am so far, so dont want to be too blynd too early!
ahhahahaha
October 22, 2008 at 00:17
Goonerm theres still a lot of footie to be played this season but I can tell u for sure that arsene’s current project would be set a few years back again if we end the season empty handed. How much longer? We need to realise that that ruthlessness and personality we last had last in 2005 is missing from this current team. Scorelines dont always tell the story of the performance. If u think Wenger was so happy why did u think that he threw his water bottle on the floor when we were leading 3-1. the guy is as desperate to win something not just nething he mentioned himself that our two main targets are the league and CL. Lets wait and see. For me another season without silverware counts for mediocricity
October 22, 2008 at 00:18
When you go to war ? How are we looking at this ?! If your up against an army that’s bigger stronger and richer than you, then you look for ways around it, play to your strengths and their weaknesses.
Even if you could see a weakness, you’d have to consider the other teams strengths aswell, you focus on that you’ll get hit in other areas, we played Song at the back against them last year and most of their fans admit they were pretty lucky in the end to win and like tonight we still had a few injuries.
Fenerbahce went for the jugular today and bled out all over the place. The more they attacked the worse they got punished because we had a five man attacking midfield.
October 22, 2008 at 00:20
Guys lets not go there in 20 years time based on what Fergie and Arsene have achieved currently, Fergie would be regarded as the most successful manager in UK ever, Mourinho would be regarded as the man that won chelsea the back to back titles after 50 years. No one woukld care about financial details. Show me ur trophy cabinet thats what its all about
October 22, 2008 at 00:20
I didn’t I thought everything was perfect, but we just went to Istanbul and scored five goals. Anybody who thought we could do that and not occasionally look like conceding needs their head examining!
A great result, some things to improve but we stepped up tonight.
I don’t who made the comment earlier but when we subbed JD for Theo someone said “see Arsene doesn’t know”.
To that, I say, FIVE – TWO away from home.
October 22, 2008 at 00:20
*I didn’t say.
October 22, 2008 at 00:22
U must be joking Fenerbache were woeful tonight…. They couldnt even spot a blood vessel
October 22, 2008 at 00:24
Franchise – and yet Mourinho got kicked out because he couldn’t do what Abromovich wanted however hundreds of million he gave him, while Wenger’s still in charge and going strong, we didn’t suddenly lose that ruthlessness or personality we just have to be even more ruthless this time around, we didn’t drop our game the game got harder.
Your in the here and now, and Mourinho still moans that Wenger gets more recognition then him, why are you thinking about 20 years from now, enjoy the moment.
October 22, 2008 at 00:25
So everytime we win, its because the opponents were awful?
October 22, 2008 at 00:25
QOS – agreeed. i thought we might get a draw. we could have scored at least 2 more…
October 22, 2008 at 00:29
Not me moaning tonight QoS, I’m defending our beloved team
October 22, 2008 at 00:30
You didn’t seem to get my point Keyser. If u keep using the excuse that Mancs or Chelsea spend more than us bla bla bla the history books wont say that in a few years…. I am very impressed with the result tonight I am enjoying the mooment but I’ve seen this already thrice this season where we follow a rout in Europe with a woeful performance domestically. U know why? Think about it
October 22, 2008 at 00:34
It’s a reason not an excuse, so what if the history books won’t say that, in a few years time we could spend the same as them all and win the lot, or the FA could apply a slary cap and send them all bankrupt.
There could be loads of reasons, which one do you think it is ?!
October 22, 2008 at 00:35
The point is if we had of spent like Fergie… Arsenal would be BANKRUPT years ago with no trophies like Leeds we never had MAN U’s income..
October 22, 2008 at 00:37
Evo why did u think we would get a draw? Wasn’t it because of the media reiterating continously about how intimidating it was to play at fener’s ground? From what u saw tinight would u have been happy with a draw?
October 22, 2008 at 00:44
Its not about money guys. Arsene has showed that he can it is possible to compete for honours without spending billions but until u agree whether as a result of injuries or not that Alex Song after 40 appearances is not good enough to start as a CB after what he’s shown then we would keep moaning on blogs here and there. Do u think we won the title in 2005, 2002 or 1998 by luck?
October 22, 2008 at 00:50
good nite guys
October 22, 2008 at 00:51
It’s not all about money, but you have to admit that a great big gigantic reason that we have not won the title since 04′ is down to the amount of money Chelsea were able invest in their squads in the following seasons.
He’s played games here and there, how many of those are starts ? How many are at CB ?! He isn’t even first choice there or second. He sits in front of the defence for Cameroon and looks good doing so, without giving him a proper run we won’t know either way.
October 22, 2008 at 00:54
Don’t you remember Grimandi, Stephanos, Vivas and all the other players that was in those squads.. We were never able to buy and pay more wages for the likes of Ferdinand , Rooney, About 5 keepers until he stole Van der Sar from Fulham..
October 22, 2008 at 00:57
if ur two first choice CB have weaknesses in the air whats the point of having a fourth one who is worse in the air and as sluggish as a 40 year old. That shows a lot of ambition
October 22, 2008 at 01:13
How many other clubs need 4 centre halfs, Chelsea are fucked when there No1 gets injured and they have spent £550 million to get there squad..
October 22, 2008 at 01:18
How is noone talking about Adebayor?! He took his goal well, and played as he usually does, but his lack of effort for the first goal was absolutely inexcusable. I’ve never seen a player just not bother to even jog back and pretend to try and mark his man, let alone one of our best headerers who’s been given the job of marking their most dangerous player! I’ve literally never seen anything like it before, it was incredible. I’ve never been so furious with an arsenal player watching a match as I was tonight, I’ve never seen a player not give a shit like he did!! Absolutely incredible
October 22, 2008 at 01:26
franchise – not sure what you are saying, i just felt that playing away in Europe in the CL is always tough, no matter who you play. everyone says you just win your home games and if you draw away your doing well.
not much rocket science in that?
October 22, 2008 at 01:56
evo, you know what rockets are shaped like.
October 22, 2008 at 02:26
Hi Evo
I think the win at home draw away method has been overtaken these days by the win as many as possible and maybe lose a few of today.
I am not a mathematician but I bet the numbers end up similar if you win many and lose a few rather than win a lot and draw a lot.
There were some cunts on the radio trying to discredit the invincibles last season by saying the Chavs and Mancscum won more games in their title winning seasons.
I just hope the Chavs and Mancscum lose at least one game every season as I want the unbeatables season to never be seen again in my lifetime.
October 22, 2008 at 02:32
I am very happy with the result last night but because I have always seen Arsenal with a great defence I get upset when we concede so many goals.
I admit I think Almunia is a fool and Wenger is still looking for a keeper if rumours are to be believed. I hope so.
I can take the flak from those who want to have a dig as I am supremely confident that Manuel will not let me down.
We have a fantastic side here but he escapes criticism for our defensive weaknesses all the time. He is no better than the great Paul Robinson and we all know how good he is.
I do have answers as to his replacement but they would be criticised for their few mistakes that they make.
Lets hope one of them makes mistakes against us this Sunday.
October 22, 2008 at 02:35
By the way, if anyone gets to read the night shifts comments what about some credit for Eboue tonight, he played well and was awesome combining with Sir Alf for the 5th goal.
Well done the pass master and well done Song too.
October 22, 2008 at 02:40
Agreed about Ade apart from the goal and a 20 minute spell he was completely shit yet Arsen kept him on till almost the end. Bendy and Vela should have been unleashed with 30 mins left and JD should have replaced Dennilson not Diaby.
Diaby was tired and could have still eased up with JD covering the defence as he would have used skill to keep the ball.
Champs League final saw the same mistake with Bobby taken off and a tired Cesc. Yet Cesc was one of the players who kept the ball.
As the great Cloughie said. “You can’t lose if you have the ball”
October 22, 2008 at 02:41
yeah good game for eboue
October 22, 2008 at 03:00
well lads in need to get down to the pub to celebrate cause ive had my lunch and its 1pm – so Heinekens here we come!
Great result and i love the Arsenal and i love you all!
October 22, 2008 at 04:38
The week just got better grovers!!
October 22, 2008 at 08:29
NEW POST!
Part 1.
October 22, 2008 at 08:30
This week we need to push on!