OK Grovers, my hot tip of yesterday didn’t come to fruition …yet.
Don’t give up on it regardless of what you read in the red tops, if he was going to Liverpool, I would have thought he would be gone by now.
Still as a way of making up for the sin of speculation, today I will give the two angry commenters of yesterday what they want, a factual post, with no speculation in it.
We’ll see if you like it and if it’s a success I will do it with more regularity and be like Arsenal.com and some of the other blogs, it’s your call Grovers, so here it is.
Arsenal signed a French 17 year old called Coquelin and thinks he will be good, Lyon and Nantes were also after him.
Aaron Ramsey could be the answer to our central midfield woes, even though he is only 17, Wenger thinks he can do the job this season.
We haven’t bought Gareth Barry, Miguel Veloso or Xabi Alonso.
We won’t be buying a center back as Arsene Wenger believes we’re okay in that area, so no Richards, Lescott, Kompany or Zapata.
Arsene Wenger doesn’t want to KILL the youngsters by bringing in new and established stars, so we won’t be bringing in new and established stars. Killing Gilberto and Pires was okay though as they had reached 30 years of age and when you get to that age you smell like wet newspaper and it upsets the kids.
Arsenal will have sold more players than we bought, like last year so we will again have a budget surplus.
Season tickets unfortunately have gone up due to market forces and the cost of the new stadium we moved to in order to compete with the big boys, so hard luck, and please keep spending.
Robin Van Persie is injured again, but we are renegotiating his contract to keep him at the Emirates, so please don’t worry and keep them crossed he can manage 3 consecutive pre-season games.
I didn’t mention Rosicky though as by the time he’s fit he’ll be 30 and we’ll sell him.
One question that was asked but no answer was forthcoming was …if we can lose Hleb and Flamini and not replace them, why did we have them in the first place?
Please don’t forget to buy the new away kit as soon as possible, continue to hate Usmanov and Dein but you can like Kroenke, he signed the lock down and will now do what he’s told.
We owe everything to Arsene Wenger, we were a small club before he arrived and don’t forget, we are Emirates cup and Amsterdam trophy holders and we are determined to keep them in our otherwise empty silverware cabinet.
I hope you all found this informative and respectful, I hope you enjoy watching the game on Setanta sports or Arsenal TV today, we could win if our teams parents allow them out to play today, are they allowed competitive football at 17? I don’t know what the rule is!
None of this was meant to sound sarcastic by the way, I am only reporting the facts. Okay, okay, the Rosicky one was down to me, the rest was straight out of Arsenal.com
Have a great day Grovers, tomorrow the season begins and we will have a school report, sorry I meant a match report!
July 19, 2008 at 9:05 am
First!!
July 19, 2008 at 9:06 am
An excellent and factual post!
July 19, 2008 at 9:08 am
You are so factual you could work for Arsenal.com…
Actually, don’t they lie as well?
‘No one is leaving’
‘We’ll sign all our players in 3 weeks’
‘Arsenal fans will be reassured’
Good post though Geoff, I enjoyed it!
So… first game of pre season, shall I get that Le Grove shirt signed today Geoff?
July 19, 2008 at 9:12 am
Oh no… as I thought yesterday…
“Overall he can play wide, he can play centrally,”
“I think in the future he will be a central midfielder. How is down to him and down to us on how well we work with him.
“In my mind though there are no restrictions on his development, because he has played a lot already.”
July 19, 2008 at 9:12 am
Geoff, that was an absolute classic post, exactly my sense of humour!! Unfortunately the KIDS won’t understand it.
Absolutely brilliant!!
July 19, 2008 at 9:13 am
If intended in earnest, informative, and if intended ironically, quite funny. Good post.
July 19, 2008 at 9:13 am
Ramsey played a lot already!!!!!! He must be talking about those 20+ appearances he made for Cardiff, he must be classed as a veteran.
July 19, 2008 at 9:13 am
Geoff….. i’m happy you have made your point….
but I prefer the old Geoff.
lets hope he returns before the weekends out.
I prefer the speculation and antcipation….
The FACTS are just so depressing.
July 19, 2008 at 9:14 am
Geoff, write whatever you like, however you like, as long as it’s what you want to write about.
There will be punters who will have opinions to the contrary, but so what?
We here on Le Grove have been on the transfer trail for a while, and we had Coquelin and Nasri marked down as near dead certs since there was enough feedback to confirm rumours, Laval’s director of sports was gutted to see his star youth footballer leave, but Wenger donated a million euro compensation for his education which will probably pay the wages of their entire first team for a year which is not as much as they would have liked but still as hefty bit of v0oluntary compensation.
Nasri was talked about by Wenger himself before the Euro’s and once you hear a snippet of info straight from Wengers mouth regarding a possible transfer, it looks more likely than not.
Geoff, keep it up, if they don’t like it, they don’t have to like it!
July 19, 2008 at 9:17 am
True Finest… if other sites want to play the…’I wont speculate until it’s on Arsenal.com’ that is cool, but it wouldn’t have given us much to talk about this summer!
Another record yesterday! 690 I think? That says it all…
So what do you all think about heading into the season with Ramsey as our favoured centre mid?
July 19, 2008 at 9:18 am
I’ve been out of the country for the last couple of months, can someone tell me who have we signed and who they are please?
July 19, 2008 at 9:18 am
Thanks guys, there were a few people yesterday that don’t understand hope, speculation or irony, this was for them, laced with a little sarcasm!
July 19, 2008 at 9:19 am
Midoco, turn around and go back, you’ll be less depressed!
July 19, 2008 at 9:21 am
Morning Grovers,
As much as your post gave me a smile Geoff, I too prefer the way you usually author you super duper posts -
Anyone know what is wrong with Vela, he is now not in the squad for later, replaced by Coq-au-Vin…..? Suely he is not injured already…
July 19, 2008 at 9:21 am
Really, I was in Afghanistan!
July 19, 2008 at 9:24 am
FC, where did you hear that Arsenal had paid an education fee?? Last I saw, Francis Coquelin had been released & Stade Lavallois said that any future club didn’t have to pay any education fee because nothing more linked Coquelin with MFC!!
July 19, 2008 at 9:24 am
Brilliant, Now can we get back to what we actually think!!!
I saw the Ramsey story and just pray that it is Wengers long term aim and not next seasons.
I live in Swansea and used to work down near Cardiff so know a lot of Cardiff fans who think he is an excellent prospect for the Future……..The Future not the 08/09 season. They were also pretty happy that he has come to Arsenal but like me they do not expect to see much of him next season, he rarely played for Cardiff last season, he has a lot to learn still.
Wenger MP’s Kill the Youngster statement is sadly a mirror image of what happened last summer
End of 06/07 Wenger MP stated that he would be bring in Super Super players, yet we went into the Emirates cup and the Season minus Henry, Ljungberg, Reyes/Baptista, Aliadiere but had brought in Sagna and Eduardo. Sagna has proved to be Super Class, Eduardo has not, yet looking at those players leaving it left a massive gap on the wings. Wenger later comes out with the ‘I believe in the youth in this squad, they have belief and desire’. No more Super Super class players then!!!
End of 07/08 Wenger MP admits that we lost the league due to In-experience, he says that this will be addressed in 2-3 weeks and he is sure that the fans will be re-assured by what they see. 8 weeks later we have Nasri and a couple of kids but have lost Flamini, Diarra, Gilberto, Jens and Hleb. Wenger then comes out with the comment regarding not re-assuring the fans as it may induce parents to write complaint letters to PHW that their kids are coming home from training in Tears because Samuel Etoo or Gareth Barry has been picked ahead of them on Saturday
So basically in Summer 07 we stripped the experienced attacking options and replaced them with Vela, Theo and Bendtner (I know they are talented but they need a mix of Experience and Youth)
Summer 08 we stripped the experienced CM to be replaced with Denilson, Diarra and Ramsey (I know they are talented but they need a mix of Experience and Youth)
GROUNDHOG SEASON all over and I am still seething with it. He needs to sort it out
July 19, 2008 at 9:26 am
Speculate, I love it, and like most of you out there, will continue to get excited no doubt when we get linked to ‘Big Players’ - the difference is, I wont believe any of it to be true until a formal announcement ’somewhere’ - which is usually before it gets on AFC.com.
After All, if we believed everything we heard, we would have all listened to Ade’s 1st interview, switched the television off thinking - Good he has come out, declared his love for the club, say is is staying for three years at least and gone off quite content…
Not realising the Tosser, a couple of minutes later, he says he could be off - What a pratt!!
July 19, 2008 at 9:28 am
Ramsey Playing in CM has not “reassured!” me in the slightest.
Ok he has the potential to be the next Stevie G or Shrek, but wouldn’t you like to ease him in knowing that he could learn from an old head, such as maybe ( dare i say it) Barry.
Throwing him to the wolves next year also could potentially ruin him as a player.
He never put Walcott straight in the team, and to be fair he started with Eboue-Ache all last year.
Maybe Walcott will get his start this year, and as for Eboue-ache well, there is a nice DM slot up for grabs…. I shudder at the thought…. but does Wenger!?!?!
July 19, 2008 at 9:28 am
Pedro - Migt as well update your silly season list now we have signed another player.
Apart from signing Nasri, who I rate higher than Phleb, who hav we signd that will help the team? Last time I checked signing a known player over the age of 24 doesnt kill anyone, so Wenger, stop being a paranoid git and sign someone! You wont be arrsted for murder! Hell, if anything it will have the reverse efect and will encourage and teach the younger players…
Rant over, Nice change Geoff, will be looking forwrd to more of the usual tho!
July 19, 2008 at 9:30 am
GMR, re: million euros
http://youngguns.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/coquelin-wenger-key-reason-for-arsenal-transfer/
July 19, 2008 at 9:34 am
FC- thanks for that. Its the same site that reported what I had said above about there not being an education fee payable!!
Whilst I think its a nice gesture by Arsenal especially as Stade Lavallois weren’t asking for anything, I find it somewhat strange that with Arsenal crying poverty all the time they donate a million when it wasn’t required!!
July 19, 2008 at 9:34 am
Grovers, don’t forget today is AKB day, the weekend when all the school kids are allowed on their PC’s I tailored it that way!
July 19, 2008 at 9:35 am
That’s where our money goes, he does it all the time, if you added up all the kid fees, we could have bought a Barry.
July 19, 2008 at 9:39 am
GMR, he said he had cash yesterday, but upsetting the kids was his problem…
July 19, 2008 at 9:40 am
Geoff, Of course every AKB will tell you that Coquelin joined us because he was so impressed with Arsenal & the fact we give youngsters chances, but those same idiots won’t believe its anything to do with the fact he’s earning 10 times more than he was offered at any other club, including Lyon!!
July 19, 2008 at 9:41 am
You mistake quotes for facts - they are not the same tthing.
Besides WEnger never actually says he will play Ramsey centrally this season - he just says at some point is his career he will end up as a central midfielder.
July 19, 2008 at 9:43 am
Pedro, yeah he said that yesterday. That just confirms his spending is over, the rest of the time he cries poverty & we have all the idiots come to sites like this & go on about the Stadium repayments, when anyone with the smallest amount of brain cells knows the Stadium repayments are nothing compared to the overall income!!
July 19, 2008 at 9:43 am
I hear that Arsene is very interested in buying old fetuses . He wants to get them while they’re young and care for them so in 25 years time with the proper encouragement and bed time stories they could possible be emotionally ready to start playing football
July 19, 2008 at 9:47 am
There you go everybody, RomfordPele was the reason I wrote this post and he still finds it factually incorrect, welcome to the weekend!
July 19, 2008 at 9:48 am
Does he honestly believe that people are going to continue to stump up for the most expensive ticket in World Football whilst we continue to strip experience and add kids
I am not renewing my membership as things stand. I will watch on TV but I am not spending the money to travel to London, Ticket, food etc whilst this continues.
I know it looks pretty but Swansea play pretty football at a 1/10th of the price (I am not about to start watching them though it is just a point)
I think Wenger has lost sight of his responsibilities to us the fans and to the shareholders who surely cant be happy with this.
July 19, 2008 at 9:49 am
Eduardo & Rosicky will definately miss the start of the season!! RVP is injured & if his past record is anything to go by he’ll be out for weeks or months. Vela is also possible injured, it seems strange he’d just be pulled from the squad after Wenger named him in it.
Depending on RVP & Vela’s injuries our squad already looks stretched!!
I don’t see what there is to look forward to. Its going to be another continual long struggle where every defeat is met with the “We lacked experience & maturity” quotes!!
July 19, 2008 at 9:49 am
“In my mind though there are no restrictions on his development, because he has played a lot already.”
That says to me he is going to use him this season.
‘I think in the future he will be a central midfielder.’
The future isn’t defined Romford… so that could mean in a month.
Thanks for pointing out that quotes and facts are different things…
July 19, 2008 at 9:51 am
All I know is that each morning i wake up the first thought in my mind is, have we signed someone today? With that i don’t count players ready to play in the next half of the century. Each day i am disappointed. It is not a great situation, in fact the situation is the scariest shite situation you could possibly have. Though loosing Keane and Berbatov on the same day WOULD in fact cheer me up, nothing else other than QUALITY signings will do. Away with the embryos in with the men.
July 19, 2008 at 9:56 am
so manure in for berbatoss , chavs in for kaka , and we ……………………. sign a 17 yr old .
losing the faith .. like you say pat . 2 / 3 weeks , centre half then not , super class , . fans re assured etc etc etc . i actually feel now Wenger is a liar , i never thought i would say that but so many mixed messages and contradiction . its appalling .
July 19, 2008 at 9:58 am
A ‘quote’ in The Sun, which is not to be taken as fact,
Keane and Berby have made it very clear they want to leave for ‘Pool and Maunre respectively -
The problem is, with the money they will get for them - they could buy two awesome strikers, and probably players we have been linked with…. I just hope any such player doesnt want to go to them!!
Villa?
Hunter?
July 19, 2008 at 9:59 am
we now are worse , thinner squad than last season of which our bench was a joke in comparison , then to re assure the fans wenger comes out with this not killing the kids bullshit . what the fuck !!! so no more senior signings arsene , is that it !!!!!!!?????
July 19, 2008 at 10:01 am
See so this season Denilson, a kid we signed 2 seasons ago is up for the defensive midfield role, but he’s not good enough is he? so Coq-au-vin will be Denilson in 3 years time, oh what a look to look forward to.
July 19, 2008 at 10:01 am
Thing is Rico
You just know that if the Spuds do sell those two they will spend the money on players that are ready to play. Juande is a bit better at picking out talent than Jol so we cant bank on them wasting it all on a Darren Bent
July 19, 2008 at 10:02 am
Hopefully Sky or Setanta will get an interview with him today and ask him the questions that Arsenal.com won’t
July 19, 2008 at 10:04 am
I tell you what Wenger is Killing
My belief that he will ever win anything for Arsenal again.
July 19, 2008 at 10:04 am
We’re all hoping for a good result against Barnet. Any score predictions? I’ll go for 2-1,
Barnet will be itching for a home goal but we should have enough goals to finish with a win.
July 19, 2008 at 10:05 am
Geoff - your last comment frightens me,
Surely even Song (ha ha evensong!!) or Diaby are a better option - and they aren’t strong enough IMHO -
Get real AW, we need TWO, just TWO at the moment, you tell us you have money, F-IN well spend it then…. sorry, rant over
July 19, 2008 at 10:05 am
Rico,
Those quotes come from the spuds website. Levy has said Berbatov & Keane have been unsettled & want to leave, hence why they have reported Man Utd & Liverpool to the Premier league.
July 19, 2008 at 10:06 am
The thing about the English league, especially in midfield, is you just cant come in running. In fact you need time to get used to the physicality and pace. I have to be honest and say i will be happy with a top three this year and holding onto Cesc. Hoping and praying that the next year will be the year. You never know, there is still time, I can be proven wrong.
July 19, 2008 at 10:08 am
Morning Grovers,
First of all I personally would like to say that as all other mushroom Arsenal fans why are we stiffling our youngsters ??? surely its better to learn from more experienced players like in the past how much do you think the kids learned from DB10???
The current crop of more seasoned pros like Gallas whats he gonna show them how to be overpayed inconsistent and spoilt.
As for the rest of the defence why didnt we go after TA6 he would be able to help personally I think Senderos would have benefited most of all learning positional sense and concentration….. OH WELL
Cant help but wonder were we all go from here maybe its time AW changed his polocies as 3-4 place is just not good enough.
July 19, 2008 at 10:09 am
Wenger said yesterday “I do not want to kill the youngsters”.
Well i have 4 kids and it fecking kills them when we win nothing ;/
July 19, 2008 at 10:10 am
Pat,
Don’t hold your breath. Yesterday sky even admitted that they along with the written press have an understanding with the managers not to ask them awkward questions when it comes to signings.
Thats why Sky were so happy to report on Ferguson’s press conference in South Africa yesterday, because as the sky reporter put it “their journalists aren’t subject to the same understandings/agreement as ours & will ask the questions people want to know”.
July 19, 2008 at 10:12 am
Typical Manyoo hypocrisy, as long it’s them making approaches towards other team’s player it’s OK, but when it happens to them it’s a great injustice.
July 19, 2008 at 10:14 am
GMR - what you doing on that Spud site - you naughty man
Yaya and Alex - what would that cost us? Alex cant get a game at Chelski, and haven’t Barca bought a midfielder that will possibly push Yaya on to the bench…
Its not rocket science - is it??
July 19, 2008 at 10:14 am
Good post geoff ..
would prefer the straight forward’ both barrels’ approach myself ..
mixing words has never been my forte, but dry witted humor at its best none the less …
Fuck giving out stats and talking about a persuasive argument, im past the time for that …
I think most of us almost smelt the bacon last season .. If it wasn’t for our youth choking and the inexperience at the end of the season , it might of had a happy ending ..
The feel was we needed several (3/4) Experienced players on the bench/in the team to really compete with our direct competition (manU chavs)…
Since that time ,we’ve lost 5 maybe 6 1st team players and replaced them with x2 -17 yr olds and x1 20 potential star .. add to that vela and we are still worse off than last season .. (ticket price hikes ..oh goody goody ! your season tickets might as well come with a packet of salt to rub into the wounds!)
then you weigh up promises re-neged, and statements like im giving the youngsters a go ahead of signing NOW players .. ( AND BUY MORE OF THEM TOO!) you dont need to be a rocket scientist to see this is what we will be dealing with for fucking years to come ! (and even after he’s gone!)
The truth is you cant really tell how great a player is at 16- 17 .. to invest in him at that age could be throwing away serious money for years on end … some WILL make it most do not .. or leave , or get home sick , or hate the weather .. or aren’t French enough!
Im sure wenger gets off on buying a kid for 500k and selling him for 20 million …
yes that would be good if it ever happened ! you cant get by on the anelka feeling anymore wenger .. we are a selling club and with wengers little experiment we will be
one for many years to come ..
July 19, 2008 at 10:18 am
geoff . was the barry thing a serious rumour / possibility ?
July 19, 2008 at 10:18 am
Someone yesterday suggested that Manure and Pool get docked points - I think it is time that ‘tapping up’ is taken a bit more seriously - and the only way to hit big clubs is by points deduction -
And why are we not reporting Milan for their tapping up of Flamster and Mr Whippy?
Barca for Henry - last season
Barca and Real M every year for Cesc….
We need a bit of back bone bought into our board, Stan the man is a shred business man, mybe once he is on board things might change a little -
July 19, 2008 at 10:19 am
Blogger Eva yesterday mention that agents were at the club - was that true or a wind up, anyone know please?
July 19, 2008 at 10:20 am
Definately prefer the speculation Geoff. I might not always agree with it but it would be pretty boring it you did. Have any of you seen the poll on Setanta’s site at the moment? It asks “Who has had the best summer of spending so far?” And with 26% of the vote, Arsenal are leading!
July 19, 2008 at 10:20 am
Rosicky still isn’t ready which means Nasri goes straight in.
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3837539,00.html
Almunia
Sagna, Toure/Senderos, Gallas/Song, Clichy
Walcott, Fabregas, Diaby/Denilson, Nasri
RVP, Adebayor/Bendtner/Vela
My predicted first 11 for the start of the season.
July 19, 2008 at 10:25 am
I have just read AW has more cash due to the Emirates stadium why not go and spend the f*cker then.
My son who is 9 is playing for Notts Countys youngtsers and believe me he could show AW a thing on spending.
Is there any news on Ade I have noticed his face has gone of the promo for the new kit on Arsenal.com as its only Ces now????
July 19, 2008 at 10:27 am
geoff ??
July 19, 2008 at 10:27 am
I don’t mind the idea of signing youngsters but we really do need some experienced players too. Jam tomorrow is all well and good but we need at least a little taste today - and the youths need good examples to learn from.
I’m not saying that Arsene needs to go out and sign lots of established players, because I do believe we have some talented youngsters that can step up, but just one or two more experienced players in the squad would make a world of difference imho.
July 19, 2008 at 10:29 am
finestcuts
id go along with that ..
eboue on the bench ….
1 step in the right direction at least ..
thanks to sagna and theo for that !
July 19, 2008 at 10:30 am
A supposed insider saw Barry at the training ground Jules and decided to post their hallucination on here.
July 19, 2008 at 10:30 am
I read Le Grove from time to time, but in light of the tag line at the top of the page - ‘A blog where you can have an opinion, not get one’ - it seems to me that it’s just the opposite. As long as you agree with Geoff’s opinion of Wenger, ie that he has fucked Arsenal up and we will never win while he continues to buy kiddies (or something like that anyway), then it’s fine. If anyone has a different opinion, they are shot down or mocked within minutes, eg at 9.41am romfordpele *has* an opinion, but at 9.47am he *gets* one from Geoff.
This blog was a nice idea initially, but unfortunately it has largely become populated by sycophants who agree with the author; anyone else is hung out to dry.
July 19, 2008 at 10:31 am
oh i see finest ,cheers , won,t be signing hin then !
July 19, 2008 at 10:31 am
Yes Jules
I heard it on good authority.
July 19, 2008 at 10:32 am
really geoff , i hope so . im not sure bout diaby there , he is so casual at times .
i really hope you are right .
July 19, 2008 at 10:36 am
Not at all Seb
There are a lot of very different opinions on here, I think that Romford Pele missed the point of the post, it was supposed to be a humorous jibe towards those that complain that we just debate speculation
July 19, 2008 at 10:39 am
top post geoff all you teeny weeny akb’s please read it and take note,
the fans who actually think for themselves are seriously pissed off,
THE ONLY THINK THAT SEEMS TO GET KILLED AW ARE ARE EXPECTATIONS .
SORT IT OUT!!!!
July 19, 2008 at 10:42 am
simon . the point that bugs me most is the lack of ambition . the board publically state that they are happy to finish in the top 4 and win nothing , ie as long as they get c l revenue thats ok . is that it ? is that good enough for THE ARSENAL ? NOT FOR ME ITS NOT
July 19, 2008 at 10:44 am
If that mentality comes from the board , where does is filter down to ?
the manager and the players perhaps !?
July 19, 2008 at 10:47 am
mlsnet.com
Wenger said:
“It is important you fight for the championship and to win it. All the other trophies are more of a consolation than anything else.
“The team is performing well, but the target of a top-level sportsman is to always improve and I believe we can be more clinical, we can score more with the chances we create.
“I will try to achieve my best to develop the players, to fight in every game. I am more motivated than ever to achieve that. ”
He knows he is under more pressure than ever, and he is more motivated than ever, you lads are all absilutely right, we must win and Wenger knows it!
July 19, 2008 at 10:48 am
The problem with wenger is what HE says, he said the fans would be re-assured, he said he would sort out central defence, he once said he would sign 2 super super class players. he said we would add experience to the squad, all lies. we fall for it and snap up the season tickets and new shirts. wenger than makes exscuses and because he is untouchable at the club he gets away with it every year.
I just wish he was honest and says “we’re skint so dont expect any big signings”, that would at least stop the fans getting there hopes up.
July 19, 2008 at 10:48 am
seb
if i dont agree with a post i will tell them .nicely but i tell them … if i do AGREE
i commend them ..
however if you think rompele and you were having an opinion and not giving one
i think your both mistaken .. both sound like attacks if it must be known .. digs at the very least ..
Also of course a blog attracts bloggers who agree with the author , i haven’t met too many
bloggers who come here every day because they hate it ! .. its like saying why else would you go to macdonald’s if not to get a burger !
July 19, 2008 at 10:51 am
Nicely put Ethan! Big Mac sounds great!
July 19, 2008 at 10:51 am
jules
you hit the nail on the head ..
i said the other night it would throw the cat amongst the pigeons if the spuds or man shitty
stole our C.L spot .. It might just take that for them to get out of there’mediocrity comma ‘ that wenger and the board are in !
July 19, 2008 at 10:53 am
micheal , you forgot the ” im here at the euros with my cheque book ” one
next week , it s not big enough !!!! im sorry but how pathetic . why say it in the first place .
July 19, 2008 at 10:54 am
don’t believe it geoff, i had one an hour ago and now i have a gut-ache…
July 19, 2008 at 10:55 am
cheers ethan , absolutely .
July 19, 2008 at 10:58 am
No more medicine spoon “Oh but Ramsey shit himself when he had a one on one with Makalele” or “We’re down to the bare bones because XYZ”, it’s all been said, the transfer window is for making re-inforcements should such situations occur. If you’re tolled up and ready to hit the pitch Wenger, so be it, we have to agree to disagree because you’re trhe manager, but you have to prove the fans wrong and really win. And yourself.
“Is it anger, is it aggression, or is it a desire to be successful? Would I compromise my princi-ples? On occasions, yes, as first and foremost, I am a winner. But long-term, that’s not my attitude,”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/arsenal/article2414151.ece
July 19, 2008 at 10:58 am
Jules your right i forgot the cheque book one, its like an exscuse a week with wenger, maybe le grove can do a blog on all failed promises and contradicted quotes le boss has spouted over the years.
July 19, 2008 at 10:58 am
jules… i know…. that was a crazy crazy statement!!!
he’s been making a couple of them lately!!!
wenger ffs sort it out!!!
July 19, 2008 at 10:59 am
finest… makele’s off… but i get your point….
July 19, 2008 at 10:59 am
hi ethan,
do you think that if we did finish 5th (or below god forbid) the board would actually get rid of aw?
they’d certainly be knocked out of their “happy to be in the top 4″ complacency but my guess is they would still be as loyal to his contract as he has been to his.
i guess they could just use all the unused transfer kitty to suplement the loss of CL income…
July 19, 2008 at 11:00 am
Here is the real intention of the current board. Not spend any money and clear debt - be the best and highest valued club in the world - sell out at maximum value. Dein clashed as he wants to win trophies and spend money. Wenger is slienced and agrees with things as he plays good football and can just sign obedient french kids and will get a big slice of the money from the sell out and go and manage france in 2011.keep on paying the money to them every week and if youre very well behaved you will even buy a flat at highbury
July 19, 2008 at 11:00 am
finest , “the other trophies are just a consilation ” . Oh like the champions league and the f a cup , WHAT !!?? So in other words we won,t have the squad to compete on 4 fronts , ( again ) , excuses already and the season has,nt started .
July 19, 2008 at 11:06 am
finestcuts
wenger is a good manager and up until the past season or so i did stick up for him ..
but the longevity of mediocrity cannot be ignored any longer ..
Our board only give a shite about the money sides of football and have faith that wenger can continue on the same old road he has traveled down for 10 years , yet fails to recognize himself since chevski injected hordes of money into the game , the actual game itself have evolved and became more high profile than ever , with a whole new set of parameters to compete and remain competitive ! liverpool - spurs- manU and the chevs all invested because they want to compete ..
His ideas are now outdated ..
we need a change !
July 19, 2008 at 11:16 am
Ethan, we need to achiieve our aims and ambitions which is to win the Premier League and perhaps additionally a trophy or two. From what I understand, Wenger is saying that if we do not win the Premier league, any other trophy is just a consolation which is really going at full throttle.
Wenger has clearly stated that his aim is to win the Premier League, the office bods are satisfied with a top 4 finishes, not Wenger, the players or us the supporters. We’re the front line for Arsenal as well, we take all the shit for being Arsenal fans from opposing fans and anyone else that is anti-Arsenal, which is why if we win, we win together, if we lose, we lose together.
July 19, 2008 at 11:17 am
Rico, I wasn’t on the spuds site thankyou very much!! Skysports news were reporting the spuds website article on tv last night!!
July 19, 2008 at 11:17 am
parlane
with only 2 years left to run
he has nothing to lose !
if he fails this season(5th+) then he will all say
‘this is the 1st time ive fell out of the top 4′ !
(not so long ago top 2 !)
he has one year to run after this season and the young players are another year older , im sure this season with some injury luck and them having another year under there belt’s we will regain our top 4 placing for the 09/10 season ..
(A.W If your reading .. feel free to cut and paste this out save it and use it in 12 months
)
July 19, 2008 at 11:18 am
I’ll be waiting your apology, what a bloody cheek!!
This comment is a joke by the way!!
July 19, 2008 at 11:20 am
agree totally ethan.
gotta run.
see you at the next 666…
July 19, 2008 at 11:21 am
Honestly I am dreading the interview after the game and I can see the question about ‘whether or not he will add any more players to the squad’ will really depress me
I am on the verge of losing confidence in him altogether and whether or not I do lose it depends on what he does between now and August 31st
Like I said, I am not renewing my membership, I am not buying any new shirts, I am not going to any of the friendlies and I am not putting one penny into Arsenal football club until things start happening. My pennies may be small fry compared the amount that goes through their black hole but I think more and more people will start to do the same if it carries on. I am not a fickle fan that will dissapear, I am a very passionate loyal one that is fucked off with the current situation
July 19, 2008 at 11:22 am
I enjoyed the post but it seems to have started the most negative day I’ve seen on here for a while.
July 19, 2008 at 11:22 am
Wenger is contradicting himself anyway when he says that buying players stunts the development of the young players.
After all when he buys a 17 year old like Coquelin & tells him he’ll be playing reserve team football, then he is taking the place of another kid who would’ve been playing reserve football. So in effect he’s then stunting the development of a 15 or 16 year old who may be a better player!!
But as usual nobody is allowed to question Wenger (or God as one article referred to him yesterday).
July 19, 2008 at 11:22 am
The more the teams around us spend the less wenger will spend, he is on a one man mission to prove he does nt need to buy big to win the league, Arsenal has become his experiment, his train set. He is now more stubborn then ever and he believes in his own invincibility, the more the fans say “not another 17 year old” or “surely we will replace hleb or gilberto” the more wenger digs his heels in and does the opposite,
July 19, 2008 at 11:23 am
apparently , VELA is out for todays game ,FUCKING TYPICAL,
replaced by coq au vin ,
so a striker out replaced in the squad by a defensive midfielder ,
sounds a bit like last year wonder if coco can play upfront?
July 19, 2008 at 11:24 am
Just so you don’t get us confused my name starts with a small m (there’s 2 michaels I’m the 5 year old gmr)
July 19, 2008 at 11:25 am
finest
i agree we know pretty well how to lose together .. we’ve had plenty of practice ..
recently ..
also i will say what do you expect wenger to say?? the EPL is our bread and butter , and wenger after 10 years knows the fans are hungry to beat Man U and the chevs
,he is just feeding the fire .. its to be expected .. His secret aim is to get C.L football every year 1st priority (the facts and figures prove we have a excellent record in the comp for a reason)
MONEY !!!!!!!!!
July 19, 2008 at 11:25 am
I actually sort of want TT to stay now
Not because I have forgiven him (Never) but more because it is better the devil you know and even if we did manage to ship him out he would be replaced by another kid.
Why doesn’t he just swap places with Liam Brady?
July 19, 2008 at 11:30 am
Geoff, honestly speaking did not like this post at all……
why bother for some when you have most on the other side.
if they like facts ask them to have a look at arsenal.com and other such blogs.
Reading yesterdays posts feels much better, even now, even when we have not signed barry…
hope to see you back posting stuffs which you like to post and we like to read.
July 19, 2008 at 11:31 am
ethangunner
I’m sure you are polite with people who you disagree with, I wasn’t commenting on specific individuals. More that the apparently intended ethos of the blog was that everyone can have an opinion rather than being given one, yet those that have a positive opinion of Wenger are often ridiculed by others, including the blog’s author.
If that’s the way things are around here, then fine. Personally I prefer some honest open debate and exchange of opinions rather than mocking someone who thinks differently. But then again maybe Geoff just wanted a thriving blog full of likeminded people. Again this isn’t an attack, I’m just trying to work out how you can go from ‘A blog where you can have an opinion’ to somewhere where opinions can be ridiculed.
I guess many of you who don’t like the direction the club is going in have had your own opinions smacked down elsewhere, for daring to criticise AW. So perhaps now you have found a haven where you can express yourself freely. Fair enough. The point is it’s all just opinion - is the glass half full or half empty? Have we won fuck all for the past three seasons with a team half full of children, or have we finished top 4 for the past ten years and won three league titles four FA Cups and reached one CL final? The truth is both are valid points. The danger is not being open enough to see both sides.
Anyway enough waffling. I would express my own feelings about the direction of the club, but I’m not sure this is the best place to do it. Good luck to you all, here’s to a good season ahead.
July 19, 2008 at 11:37 am
well done pat
join the ethan club
however im still going to pay for my cable tv ESPN ,all 10 games live per week !
it wouldn’t be life without it ! Being upset with the runnings of the club doesnt make you fickle , it make you despondent, not fickle .. I had enough of last year watching ade fuck up consistantly , when a goal finally came ,it was more like a relief than joyous ! his play stifles any good flowing football on show ! its not class finishing watching someone as 1 dimensional as him .. I totally agree with your boycott . but alway remain a fan !
Being an arsenal fan is like being in a family ,
you cant pick your family
July 19, 2008 at 11:41 am
Ethan I agree to certain extent about ade. Personally I’d like to see him fuck off. I think we’re stuck with him though so the best we can hope for is that he raises his game (if it’s in him) to win us all over. Not holding my breath though!
July 19, 2008 at 11:44 am
Ethan
I cannot agree more with you about Ade. And one other thing that gets up my tits is how 8 times out of 10 he does not challenge for a header and runs behind the defender in the hope that someone like John F*** Terry will miss an easy header.
July 19, 2008 at 11:45 am
Seb, best you go to arsenal.com, for you to make the comment you just did it’s apparent you don’t read this site very often.
We always debate, but you’re right about one thing, we are like minded.
July 19, 2008 at 11:52 am
It’s incredible, even when I write a post that should have the AKB’s in raptures I still get people like Seb having a moan, well Grovers, back to what gets us 700 comments a day tomorrow, we’re not here to please people like that, so why bother.
July 19, 2008 at 11:53 am
michael, am I supposed to care which one you are??
July 19, 2008 at 11:53 am
is an AKB as bad a s a spud?
July 19, 2008 at 11:55 am
Tough call michael, neither have a mind of their own.
July 19, 2008 at 11:56 am
GMR yesterday you had a go at me so I didn’t want you to have a go at him thinking it was me. You seem to take every thing I say the wrong way. In no way was Having a go at you or implying that you cared which one I was.
July 19, 2008 at 11:57 am
Michael, GMR is having fun with you!
July 19, 2008 at 11:57 am
love the post guys, i love sarcasim, i some times get in trouble though because of it!
even on here,
July 19, 2008 at 12:00 pm
fyi those hoping to stream the match today mighth be dissapointed by the stream quality, (illegally)
spend teh 3.95 of hit teh pub guys
July 19, 2008 at 12:01 pm
*spend the 3.95 or hit the pub
July 19, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Very good report but you forgot to mention the birds team.
July 19, 2008 at 12:01 pm
I just sign up to Setanta, it took an hour and cost £14 up top and £12 a month, I couldn’t help myself!
July 19, 2008 at 12:01 pm
GMR - I took your comment in the same vein as mine was sent, just good old humour……..
Love it
Been washing!!!!
July 19, 2008 at 12:03 pm
What about them doublegooner?
July 19, 2008 at 12:05 pm
That must be my team….
July 19, 2008 at 12:06 pm
seb
dont go .. i think you’ve got it wrong .. we do have all sorts of discussions on here !
AKB = blind faith in wenger .. its a minority .. ARSENE? I personally admire the man .. i think over time he has been inspirational for AFC , but then again so has gilberto .. both are getting older and soon will leave .. I think wenger needs to give up his long term youth plan . and thats what we are all pissed off about ..
It has too many drawbacks too a man with less than 2 years to go on his contract..
1. no one ever stays there whole life at 1 club anymore ..
2. most youths we sign we will never get the best out of .
(better to buy players at there peak! NOW)
3. young players in todays football have very little loyalty ..
4. a large % of wengers youths have failed and have been sold ..thats proof enough ??!
5. we pay over the odds for youth to get them to sign on .. can you imagine the salary they want if they actually do make it ? !
6. 90% of our youth get old too quick and never really have the amount of 1st team experience needed to make it as a top flight player, and then are just sold ..
the revolving door principal ..
July 19, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Off out, be back for the game - cant wait :0
July 19, 2008 at 12:10 pm
michael, seriously, I forgot about that argument yesterday!! It wasn’t even you I was actually annoyed with.
July 19, 2008 at 12:11 pm
See you later i’m back to work.
July 19, 2008 at 12:19 pm
insidealbania - michael - pat ..
yes ade is as frustrating as hell to watch , especially last season .
will he be better this season ? i doubt it .. if he was that good AC wouldn’t be the only mugs interested .
If Eto’o goes, barca might be interested but not at 20 mil ..
If he was as good as most people prior to him wanting to leave used to say , im sure there would be more clubs with there hat in the ring for the cunt NOW ..
And pat i personally dont want him at the club even with the ‘devil you know theory’ ..
Id rather see Theo - vela- RVp- Bends-dudu get more time !!!!! they have foot skills and share a common bond that ade doesn’t have ….
SKILL !
our midfield might not produce as much this season with 2 out of 4 gone from the roster , i have a feeling that will greatly expose a player like spoon fed ade ! ..
July 19, 2008 at 12:21 pm
If Kaka goes to Chelsea, will that give them the cash to buy Ade?
Then we need to get the cheque book moving again.
Are we only supposed to talk about facts today sorry Geoff.
July 19, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Them= AC
July 19, 2008 at 12:24 pm
to buy villa david, with our new found funds?
July 19, 2008 at 12:28 pm
I wont get into the ‘Is ade any good debate’ we have gone over it too many times and the result is always the same.
Also I can’t stand the guy so feel no desire to stick up for him.
Get used to him though as he is going to be an Arsenal player next season. Like you said no one wants him although I think that may be down to his personality and Ego. Ade would only ever move to Barca, Real, AC, Inter or Man Ure or Chavski, because he believes that is the level he is at. I think Barca would take him but I think we would have to take Etoo, I would love that but Wenger would not entertain it which shows the sad state of affairs that we find ourselves in
July 19, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Honestly guys given the events of last week, do you honestly think we will buy a ready made replacement for TT25 even if we did sell him?
July 19, 2008 at 12:31 pm
pat
he will be gone .. care to have a wager
?
(knowing full well every time ive said this ive won
)
July 19, 2008 at 12:35 pm
i do agree with you there pat ..
but ive said it all along .. hlebs and ades money will disappear into the arsenal stadium black hole ..
the way it works is arsene says he doesn’t need the money ,he believes in his young players .. they sell the players , the money disappears ..
next month we are skint again !
July 19, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Ethan I hope you are right but he is fast running out of options
Barca are trying to get Drogba at the moment and if that door closes as well then who else will take him? we might want to sell him but the big clubs don’t have space for him
I agree with you on that, I honestly thought he would have been gone by now, but we played poker and lost with AC Milan and now we are reluctant to take Etoo so Barca remains a closed door. I know you mentioned Man City but no way in the world would Ade go to Man City, he believes he is above that.
July 19, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Cut down and edited, and slightly updated lol….
I certainly lost interest in the Club as well. Supporting a bad manager and team with atrocious lies, propaganda, deceit and utter lack of ambition and bullshit. Sooner Wenger and the board of directors fuckoff, or possibly Wenger alone, then I can go back to the way I use to feel about them. Hard to feel passionate about cunts. As much as it pisses me off, I like it when they do lose, proves what cunts they totally are.
The Club’s a laughing stock. Sooner it goes tits up, and Arsenal learn the hard way, the better. The more cunts who re-new their season tickets etc and yet still complain, is the reason the board and Wenger get away with it continually. Like a drug addict, if he refuses help, the only way they’ll learn if they do, is to fuck themselves up and learn the tough way..
People might claim that doesn’t make you a “true” supporter. Well, it might sound like that, but it does. Looking after the Club’s best interests.
Fucks me off something chronic when diehard idiots defend Wenger because he changed that, because he changed this. Errrr. One major flaw with that. What has a successful past got to do with a shite present?! Brian Clough bought success to Forest then got them relegated. Prime example of making and breaking a team. If Arsenal win nothing much within the next 5-6 years, you’d still get wankers defending Wenger because he changed the dietary methods 20 years ago, and won league titles 15 years ago lol. Remarkable.
I used the same scenario once before. If your married for example of 20 odd years and your wife has bought you so much happiness and changed your life etc etc, and one day you found out she was fucking other guys recently, you gonna defend her and keep ahold of her because of the happy past? Or are you gonna consider the present and cut your losses? Maybe you’d work something out, well, Wenger has had 3/4 years. Plenty of time to deliver but hasn’t. In football, you judge someone in the recent past and present to be fair. And Arsenal’s last 3/4 seasons have been in general, shit and trophyless.
Oh, and maybe stability breeds success. After-all, look at the incredible success and trophies Dario Gradi bought to Crewe after so many years of being manager!
People also wonder why on earth Wenger plays Diaby (on the left) and Eboue etc all the time, and call the man a genius. Answer is, the bloke is an idiot! Why would a genius make the same old simple mistakes eh? Bunch of Wenger asshats. And does a so-called genius go a total since they have been at a club of around 6-7 years without a trophy?! And does a genius who has had such wonderful, world-class players at their disposal have such a shit general record in Europe and never won a CL and back-2-back league titles?
Bloke wants to admit defeat, gain respect by fucking off to Japan or France and take the board of directors with him. Prove how “good” he is by building a young/youth team with a small club over there for peanuts. Then if he makes them world-class, then we can say he is a genius. What a prick.
Thinking theres’ a conspiracy against Arsenal also is typical of being a cunt and decisions etc go against him. Should take a long hard look in the mirror and closer to home. Always someone elses fault.
It amazes me why people continue to defend this man to the death. He is seriously fucking up Arsenal, to a point, if he did leave, no world-class players would want to join Arsenal anyway. You lot must like seeing United/Chelsea etc win the league and stuff and/or be crowned European Champions. Get used to it. Won’t ever change under Wenger. All true and the truth hurts. With a French git who speaks such shit and thinks the World is against Arsenal. That is why I dislike Wenger, not just because of the lack of success recently, it is the refusal to learn from the ultimate, simple alot of the time mistakes, and the constant “bigging” up of his team when they aren’t good enough, and the repetitive shite he continues to spout. Whatever he once achieved at Arsenal is history. He will be remembered as the maker and breaker. Most successful manager, but also the most underachiever. Fact!
Plus, although I am not particularly bothered by the lack of British players in our team/squad, BUT, Wenger goes on about how wonderful our foreign kids/team is, well, what have they actually won eh?!
Maybe I was quick to jump the gun by slating Wenger in 2006. But in 2007, and 2008 same old shit. Slating is justified. Nuff said.
Wenger said in the summer of 2005, when he sold Vieira, he had a “Masterplan” and “Trust me”. I guess that the plan and the trust in him, was to finish with fuck-all 3 seasons on the trot, whilst watching your fiercist rivals sweep the lot between them. How wonderful. The cunt’s ego is writing checks his body can’t cash (lmfao “Top Cunt”) and he is a skinny fucker too. Starved of success. Whilst everyone else involved with The Arsenal (mainly the fans) has to suffer.
Seeing United/Chelsea etc win shit, you’d think would agonize and make Wenger etc more determined to do something about it.
Wenger apologists always point out we were “shit” before Wenger came along and were a “mid-table team”, which in parts is utter shite, because it was only around twice (1993 & ‘95) we were mid-table.
So, where’s the people who are gonna try and shoot me down with facts I have proved about us being a mid-table team prior to Wenger eh? 1993 and 1995 was the only real time in recent years prior to Wenger we were mid-table. Yet, in 1993, we still won a cup double which was a first in those days, so not at all a bad season and was a fantastic triumph when the League Cup meant something back then. So in fact, 1995 and 1996, was only 2 shitty seasons we had until Wenger came along. In fact, Graham himself, only finished outside the top 4 like 3 times in his 9 seasons or so he was at Arsenal. And 1995 would of been different if it wasn’t for a certain cunt named Nayim from the halfway line.. Could of been the first team to win back-2-back Cup Winners Cups and another successful season.
People are also quick to harp on about how we wouldn’t even be where we are today without Wenger. Damn right about that!! Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Same people, however, aren’t as quick to notice that the past 3/4 seasons, which have been shit, are also thanks to Wenger. After 2004, it is sure shit to be an Arsenal fan. But hey, of course, why shan’t I go support the Mancs or Chelsea, or even Liverpool eh?! Maybe as well, we don’t have the funds to get players in because the new stadium etc. Well, if that’s true, sounds like a right hash job and not thought through enough, with crippling debts. Might be good for the future, but by then, probably be a lower division side. Yet again, you can blame Wenger, seeing as he was the one behind the new stadium and the one with the vision.
Thing is as well, I wouldn’t want someone like Mourinho at Arsenal, but Arsenal fans speak shit anyway. If we had him or some boring cunt like Koeman, and we won titles every season etc, NO-ONE would complain because we were winning things. Then again, some idiots would probably say they didn’t want trophies playing less attractively and would rather win nothing under daddy Wenger. Any successful or top draw manager (i.e. Rijkaard) could probably finish 4th at worst, whereas Wenger can only finish 3rd or 4th at BEST.
Brilliant times tho eh? After we won the FA Cup (undeserved playing negatively and shit something Wenger hates and slates other clubs who do that against us whom we struggle) in 2005, we have had to watch Liverpool win the CL, FA Cup, Chelsea back-2-back titles, an FA Cup, and Man United back-2-back titles, and also being crowned Champions of Europe in the same season. Twice in less than 10 years!! What a wonderful place to be in. And people reckon us Arsenal fans are spoilt lol. What the fuck does that make United fans then eh?! Them not wanting a takeover from the Glazers probably been the best thing for them! Dominated the 90’s, and now the 2000’s and probably do it all again next season!
And who can forget Avram Grant, reaching his first CL Final in only a few months, someone who is in-experienced and might not even have the right coaching badges etc. Something Wenger has taken a decade to do, and still not won a Champions League! Wenger also says the English dominance in the CL won’t last forever. Just a sore loser and jealous in which he won’t do shit about. Guess by him saying that, is no dominance writes Arsenal out of winning it lol. Such a cunt that bloke. Speaks so much shit. Moans at Chelsea for having un-limited funds etc, but Man United ended their dominance of 2 successive league titles by spending less. And thanks to their takeover from the Glaziers who all the fans hate. Don’t hear them moaning about them now. And Wenger is against a takeover. So it is his fault for not having funds (though we all know he does but refuses to spend because he is scared of doing so). Then again, he knows full well, he’d be out on his ear for not winning nothing. Wenger doesn’t even need to break the bank anyway. He even said himself he wouldn’t spend 100 million if he had it!! And if the club is broke, Wenger is the bloke who’s to blame for wanting to move to the new stadium.
SACK THE BOARD AND WENGER!! It is the only way forward if Arsenal are to win trophies. They’re both fucking cunts. Lie to the fans. Just because Wenger wants to do it his way and bring on shit kids and basement buys just to save a few bob, who are too young and not good enough, then blame the lack of success on “Lack of maturity.” A self-inflicted repetitive wound..
360 million in debt is a hell of a lot. But not if you put into consideration Highbury being sold, overpriced season tickets, matchday revenue, merchandise etc, new flats being built. Absolute fucking joke. Plus, you pay off for loans with a small amount each month, probably what Arsenal make in one or two home games. Total disgrace and lies. Man United might be in debt, but at least their trophies and success will go a hell of a long way in paying it off. Campbell, Wiltord, Edu, Kanu, Pires and now Flamini all on a free and gone. A potential of at least 20 million lost inside 3 years due to the way this cunt of a team is being managed and controlled. All spin and lies and propaganda, just like the government. 25 million on one player nowadays certainly for a big club, should be the equilavent of 7-10 million 5-6 years ago.
Probably why Edelman was booted out as well, because if I recall, he was the one who last year or so, claimed Arsenal were in a fantastic position financially and had 70 odd million to spend if wanted. Hill-Cunt and co, probably thought it blew Wenger’s cover and booted him out. In order to protect Wenger on his fucking shit policies and lie about having no money so Wenger has the perfect excuse when they come up short season after season.
And people defend Wenger (Arsene knows brigade and apologists) stating the board are letting Wenger down in regards to transfer money. Wenger is the fucking man behind it!! He wanted to move to the stadium and do things on the cheap and brainwashed the board to the point they are now BOTH to blame. Wenger wouldn’t even spend shite loads if it was all good and wouldn’t effect the debt at the club.
Plus, Wenger said success can only be measured in time. Okay then. Have it your way:
7 trophies in 12 years not bad. But add up a total of 6 years of not winning anything, no back-2-back titles EVER, no Champions League EVER, 3 league titles in 12 seasons, and no title for 4 seasons, and a trophyless 3 seasons on the bounce.
Overall, shit ratio. Well done, Arsene!
Once Fabregas goes, which will probably be next summer, seeing as the team is built around him, Wenger will fuck off, and the Arsenal board because daddy left, leaving it someone elses’ problem to hire a new manager and leaving the club in the shit. Probably end up Arsenal having the best stadium in the Coca-Cola Championship lol. With sad fucking Wenger cunts with banners sat there saying “Arsene Knows.” “Bring back Arsene.” We are shit. Fucked. Finished. Back to mediocracy like the 80’s until Graham saved us and turned Highbury into practically a full house and not just 20,000. Out of the darkness, into the light….
Funny too, how people say Ferguson is a “chequebook” manager and Chelsea “bought” success etc. True in parts, but still bullshit in regards to Ferguson inparticular, because he is a totally quality manager and a winner. Buying players doesn’t guarantee success, look at Real before they won titles recently etc. You telling me that Man United and Chelsea’s first eleven are better than that of Arsenal’s 2004 winning team for example?! NO! It isn’t. My point is, Wenger has never been good enough to win a title after another and also a CL. So trying to be-little Ferguson’s achievements because of cash is bollocks. Remember he also won stuff with kids without spending big at the time. You still need to know what your doing. Plus, I bet if we splashed the cash and won title after title etc, what Arsenal fan would moan about that?!! NONE!
The prick also claims this is the best squad he has ever had under him. What shit and a total insult to the players we have had. As if this bunch of shit would compete with the 1998 double and 2002 squad, and that of “The Invincibles” of 2004. What a load of spin and shit. Typical of this cunt! And you got Hill-Cunt defending the man saying he is completely behind him and couldn’t give a shit if we win nothing ever again…Stating too, that winning the CL and title is a difficult thing to do. Yeah, but United and Chelsea seem to cope?
If it is true what Wenger said about how brilliant it is Arsenal qualifying for the CL every season, again, another cunt comment. He once said himself only the Champions alone should go in it, and he has only won the league 3 times in 11/12 years. Shit. The rest have been due to finishing second and of late, 4th (thanks to West Ham), 4th and 3rd. Again, pathetic and not saying much. Particularly as his record as a whole in Europe is crap.
When you got a manager and board of directors happy and content with winning nothing and finishing 3rd and 4th, you are never gonna be successful again.
Wenger has gone full circle. He made Arsenal and made them successful, and now taken them right back to where they started. Although they weren’t as shit as everyone made them out to be prior to Wenger. But as far as league titles are concerned. Sinatra style with Wenger singing - “And I fucked Arsenal……………MYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, to be an Arsenal fan. And some pricks claim “These are the best times!” Well fuck me…
“It is unacceptable for a big club to go 4 years without a league title.” - Arsene Wenger on Real Madrid who have now bounced back and won back-2-back titles.
No league title for Wenger for 4 years, and trophyless for 3 and counting…………
July 19, 2008 at 1:12 pm
pat
ade is a mercenary, he will go where the dollars take him ..
if the move was purely motivated on prowess he might as well stay here …
barca or ac didnt do anything special last term …
but remember from the goats mouth
you only move because of money .. his words not mine ..
July 19, 2008 at 1:13 pm
I had to put that on, it’s the biggest post I’ve ever seen!
July 19, 2008 at 1:15 pm
David we can talk about what ever you want mate!
July 19, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Lol. I posted it a few weeks back on here. Just got rid of some parts and updated slightly. Meant more for the Wenger apologists (AKBs)….
July 19, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Fucking Brilliant post as well Geoff
I forgot about that last quote regarding going 4 years without a League Title
Awesome Gelbs
July 19, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Gelbs I haven’t got time to read your comment now but I will later. That must be a record!
July 19, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Gelbs
when did you start writing that ?
last week ?
some good point in there .. i agree im starting to agree that nothing will change unless
we change the board .. (get a russian sugar daddy ) dein ?
i think wenger lies too much to protect the board and his players ..
he thinks he is the king and the one people listen too ..
he needs to be the arsenal voice ..
i think him sitting in on the board meetings are the problem ..
deal with the shit on the pitch and attract the best players that are available is all that
should be in his mind .. listening too the scrooging and lack of money musicals of the board room has affected his brain .. and thinking…
July 19, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Lol. I’ve had it on my pc for over 2 months. Just add things/update from time to time. Just want to remind the idiots who defend Wenger season after season the reality and home truths and facts of it all. Sick and tired of them.
July 19, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Gellbs, Ethan, that’s the problem, AKB’s never listen, that’s why we call them AKB’s!