So being an Arsenal fan in the summer continues to be torturous, reading the morning papers is depressing.
The Spuds are in for Arse shavin and Luis Garcia and all we have to look forward to is reading that Song is off to the Olympics in August, that’s repaying Wenger’s faith and he’s not even in the team yet, get rid of him, he has Ade written all over him, twice in one year!
Yesterday we were after Barry and I was on cloud 9, today we’re giving Ade away at half price, I wish the boss would come out and say it’s all bollocks, it seems to me that agents and players are running football these days, why on earth would we say £35 mil one minute and £16 the next? it’s too stupid for words, it makes my blood boil that we just sit there and say nothing, say something Arsenal, we are having the piss ripped out of us as fans.
Adebayor is allowing it and should be sold or left to rot, we have to make a stand against these arrogant pricks, we have to. Ronaldo thinks he’s a slave, someone ought to make him read a book on slavery, the moron probably can’t read though, who do these twats think they are?
We’ll have to wait until next week to see who we are finally going to sign, but we have to do it before pre-season otherwise I doubt it will happen and pre-season begins next week.
Okay onto a bit of sillyness now, yesterday we had a few ding dongs, a few of you made up but a few came on and wanted to continue, well doing that just makes it unpleasant for others and will ultimately stop the majority coming on, don’t forget our mantra ‘have an opinion not get one’ and calling people names is not on.
So if it continues I’ll have to edit the offenders and if that doesn’t stop it, I’ll have to moderate in order to protect the integrity of the site and the majority of Grovers.
You know who you are and you are all good people, I don’t want this site to be like the other moronic ones, we are getting between 4 and 500 comments a day and that’s more than anyone, I don’t want that to stop, because if it does Pedro and I will ride into the sunset.
We don’t spend all our time doing this to get in between the few that want a tear up, if that’s what you want send us your email addresses and we’ll send them to your adversaries and you can rip each other in private
So come on Grovers, let’s get back on track, have a happy Domingo!
July 13, 2008 at 8:46 am
1st
July 13, 2008 at 8:47 am
give me my crown now!!
July 13, 2008 at 8:47 am
lol
July 13, 2008 at 8:47 am
4th
July 13, 2008 at 8:47 am
Well done Raif, you finally made it!
July 13, 2008 at 8:49 am
this is the 2nd time iv come first haha
thanks Geoff
July 13, 2008 at 8:49 am
7th
July 13, 2008 at 8:50 am
im starting to get fucked off with the Berbatov to Man Scum rumours!
July 13, 2008 at 8:51 am
Geoff
i feel like shit, every summer we get this transfer crap, am surprised barca and real have started on fabregas, maybe next summer probarly.
The thing is wenger comes out and says no one is leaving, then next week, that player leaves.
why cant they just be straight forward, look adebayor wants £120k a week, and he is up for sale for £30m
at least we know whats going on, as for samir nasri… we signed him, brillant but it did not excite me because it took so long to finalise.
wenger talks crap, i can remember he goes within 2 weeks, we will have some new players.
in my opinion we need 5-6 players now, if gilberto, hleb and adebayor leaving…
we need a strong defensive player and a defender in the list
July 13, 2008 at 8:52 am
Well said Geoff.
July 13, 2008 at 8:52 am
I don’t think he’s that good Evo, I just wish we’d sign a few, at least spend the £25 he said he had.
July 13, 2008 at 8:54 am
Gunnershabz you’re quite right, we need to spend the £25 and spend what we get for Hleb or Ade, thanks GMR.
July 13, 2008 at 8:54 am
Mehmut Aurelio, the brazilian turkish player
on a free transfer similar to marco senna, he would of been good for a few sesons, he now off to betis
July 13, 2008 at 8:56 am
he’s good enough….i just hate that we buy no one and man scum buy rooney, tevez, berbatov and every other bastard under the sun! how many class strikers can they get in a team and how many cant we! poo!
so if the kleb deal is closer, what does everyone think we will get in return? i would prefer 1 or 2 players rather than cash, as we’ll just bank the cash and call it a day!
July 13, 2008 at 8:56 am
Mehmut Aurelio ON A FREE.!!
i didnt see that one. im suprised no onw else was in for him,
July 13, 2008 at 8:56 am
Geoff
no one knows how much money we got to spend, £10m, £25 or £60m
andrei arshavin for hleb
klass-jan huntelaar for adebayor (i want him to stay)
cristian zapata for defence
ruben de la red for the midfield
July 13, 2008 at 8:57 am
Seems like the ‘debate’ of yesterday has not only kept people from commenting yesterday?
Well said Geoff!
Read today that the price is back to £24M if that’s true and should go through. Also saw U-tube comparison of Falcao & Santa Cruz which was well done & haven’t changed my mind that either will do but SC is my favorite for the position: simarly skilled but has the edge to play 4-5-1 and is EPL already so should hit the ground running: what we need to get a good start to the season.
Sad to see Song go to the Olympics just when the questions need to be asked of him. Unfortunate in my book so for me he’s a squad player and I’d have no problems with bringing somebody in in front of him………….new CB & DFM.
July 13, 2008 at 8:57 am
I would have all of them, bang on!
July 13, 2008 at 8:59 am
bayer leverkusen have bought renato augusto - brillant player
another player we lost out on is andrea barzagli, similar defender to nesta and he went to#
Wolfsburg, fucking hell, we need a defender like him and he went for like £8m
July 13, 2008 at 9:01 am
morning Grovers, I’m am arsehole.
last ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
July 13, 2008 at 9:01 am
Geoff
do u really see us signing a defender, come on i love big phil but he has been with us for 4-5 years and still has not improved that much.
July 13, 2008 at 9:01 am
Evo i
im the same mate. i hated the fact man scum got Tevez i was watching him play in his home land for ages and was hoping we would get him.
same thing with Torres, they would have been amazing with our style of football.
but all weget is few year down the line were wenger comes out and says
“yes we looked at them before but we didnt make a bid” or some shit around them lines
his said it about
Ronaldo.
Ron-dino
Torres
Rooney
Tevez
Cech
the list is endles
July 13, 2008 at 9:02 am
I’m watching ‘Where Are They Now’ on sky sports & today its David Hillier featured. He is now a fireman in Avon!!
I suppose he always was a water carrier!!
July 13, 2008 at 9:03 am
Morning all. If this half price crap is true, then the only way that i can see it happening is if they give us two players. The U21 French guy, who’s name escapes me and….Maybe gattuso???
July 13, 2008 at 9:05 am
Jeremy Toulonan of lyon would be a good signing
Ruben De La Red would be an excellent signing
andrei arshavin, we know what he can do, he can be the kaka of our team
July 13, 2008 at 9:07 am
Real Madrid wing-back Royston Drenthe is wanted by a raft of Italian clubs.
Despite his struggles in Madrid last season, Drenthe attracted an approach from Juventus last week and it’s since emerged that Roma, Cagliari and Genoa have also been in contact for the Holland U21 international.
For his part, Drenthe is keen to prove himself at Real
i do really think, a midfield role would be great for him, similar to manu petit, left back turned into central midfielder
July 13, 2008 at 9:07 am
Well Said Geoff
I and I am sure there were others were not posting on here much yesterday because of the ding dongs and the abusive ping pong. Unfortunately it reminded me of days over on ACLF last summer and I hope it does not continue.
Abdenor, I hope you dont leave, you have been a top blogger.
Geoff I also think that this half the valuation talk is a bit confusing
The problem is we do not really know what it is half of. all we have heard is the fees mentioned in speculation. They mention it is also just over half.
Did Barca actually make that 25m bid? because that confuses it more. I struggle to believe we would turn that down and accept a bid in the region of 16-20m.
Some think it because a player is involved but again it is still speculation and names have not been mentioned in this round of gossip.
I think we are going to end keeping him
July 13, 2008 at 9:09 am
valon behrami, what do u think guys????
right sided midfielder
July 13, 2008 at 9:10 am
nice one raif -agreed mate!
July 13, 2008 at 9:10 am
Blatter should be pushed off his crown! He’s a nonsense man. Let’s start a campaign!?
July 13, 2008 at 9:12 am
Berami? where does he come from?
July 13, 2008 at 9:13 am
yeah raif
why does he not like to buy the mid-finish article
like fernando torres, £24m last year seems a bargain to me now
when david villa was valued at £17m, wenger should of just faxed valencia and said lets do business… he probarly say i knew david villa when he was 16
david silva, well he is class
July 13, 2008 at 9:14 am
geoff
valon behrami, right sided player from lazio
he can play as wing back or attacking midfielder, he is better then eboue,
July 13, 2008 at 9:15 am
the Pope has just touched down in Sydney, maybe he’s bringing me fresh faith that we will sign more players than we release
July 13, 2008 at 9:15 am
Listen up boys. I was watching France 98 vs. rest of the world on TV last night. When journalists asked Wenger about Adebayor, Wenger said Milan did not have the money & Adebayor is going nowhere. All these rumours about his price being dropped has been created by his scumbag agent - italian numpty and the press are just having fun with it even though they no that Milan have not made a single concrete offer so far. don’r read the crap in the press - includes s.y, b.c, etc…
July 13, 2008 at 9:15 am
If he’s better than Eboue then bring him on!
July 13, 2008 at 9:15 am
Aren’t the papers mostly bullshit anyway? This week we had Hleb supposedly attacking Wenger and Fabregas then he came out on his website in explanation. One paper today says there have been no offers for Adebayor and others say we’ll sell him for half price. If Arsenal spent all their time denying of confirming gossip then there’d be no time for football.
July 13, 2008 at 9:18 am
GUNNERSHABZ: They haven’t started on Fabregas for a few reasons really. Despite his tender age he has far more common sense and maturity than both Hleb and Adebayor. He has come out and categorically said that he is not going anywhere, and call the scare mongerers a bunch of pricks unsettling his teammates… including calling the team he has supported all his life a bunch of Catalonian Cunts…
I’m actually getting fed up at the lack of respect that we as fans are being shown. Our intelligence seems to get insulted at every opportunity. At the AGM with the supporters trust Arsene says “trust me I see them everyday on the training ground”, well we see Eboue every week on the teamsheet and he is SHIT, we see Song play a fantastic few carling cup games as a defensive-mid and slaughter all in his path in the ACN but then he gets played centre back, an area where we supposedly need no bolstering… Are we stupid?
We lost the title because of poor defending, and when you think about who in those areas i.e. Flamini, Sagna and Clichy you can only really point your finger at the centrebacks… not to mention of course that we were knocked out of the Champs League solely because of our pathetic “number one” Almunia…
I’m seriously getting worried… Adebayor and Hleb are no real losses BUT Flamini is going to take some replacing, I thought this would be Songs year but know he is fucking off to Beijing at the most important time of the season… WTF is going on at that place!!!
July 13, 2008 at 9:18 am
arsenal are the easiest target for the media, because we dont respond and we just let it go…..
and us fans suffer from it, at least fergie tells them straight
July 13, 2008 at 9:19 am
well said geoff
anything that stops wankers from barking up my tree im in for it!
like the motto says have an opinion…. not get one !!!!
and yesterday i got plenty when I WAS TALKING FOOTBALL !
others made it personal ! i am a 2nd dan in karate ! and anyone who tells
me ive lived my life on the bench doesnt appreciate what dedication is to achieve an accolade like that !!
I represented my state in cricket, karate & basketball , anyone telling me i no know nothing about sports better look at themselves long and hard !
July 13, 2008 at 9:20 am
Sandman:-
i understand ur pain, we all do
this fucker of a wenger has too much faith in shit like eboue, senderos
he needs to toughen up and put pressure on them, buy players and raise competition within the team
July 13, 2008 at 9:22 am
The problem is that if Arsenal come out and deny silly media speculation and refute claims from dodgy characters it would mean 2 things:
1. That the cretinous agents and hangers-on who come out with this trash are important enough to be engaged with by a club with Arsenal’s class.
2. That we would be setting a dangerous precedent. We would have to come out every day with denials or the situation will get much worse with silence being accepted even more as proof of a story.
I’ve had my doubts about how we communicate with the world, but I’m starting to think that it’s for the best. The fans have to be patient
July 13, 2008 at 9:23 am
Am I wrong, but isn’t there a guy at Arsenal taking a cheque for running our PR. Surely he’s the first person we should be getting rid of
July 13, 2008 at 9:23 am
GunnerShabz
exactly thats what im saying. its really silly some times.
plus the time wecould have got torres he would have been much much cheaper then 24 + mill as there was bonuses plus a player .
July 13, 2008 at 9:27 am
And as for being negative ..
what the fuck is there to be positive about ?
spurs getting a shite load of good players ?
when we have players leaving ?
AND HAVEN’T REPLACED THEM FOR YEARS !
I know some of you want to remain positive !?
but what the fuck is there to be positive about ???
HONESTLY ???
we currently are in a worse position than last season !
thats how it stands currently !
so forgive me if i aint just a bundle of fucking joy !!!!!!!!
what have we got to look forward too?
more youngsters getting a go ???
we’ve seen how long and protracted that proposition is ?
other football clubs are buying NOW players ..
If arsene knows something we dont i suggest he tells us what he is doing
getting 15- 17 year olds when we have more holes in our squad than a fly screen!
July 13, 2008 at 9:28 am
torres was a bit miss on our behalf!
July 13, 2008 at 9:29 am
big miss
July 13, 2008 at 9:30 am
It is a google translation but I think you can get the drift
Latest spanish news is Etoo and 10m
http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsport.es%2Fdefault.asp%3Fidpublicacio_PK%3D44%26idioma%3DCAS%26idnoticia_PK%3D526445%26idseccio_PK%3D803&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=es&tl=en
July 13, 2008 at 9:32 am
evo
torres is a huge player but with a price tag around 25 mil ..(27 mil final pricing)
can you ever see wenger EVER spending money like that .????
he sells players for that price but its TOTALLY against his grain to buy a player like that .. maybe there lays the problem !
July 13, 2008 at 9:33 am
Ethan, we play great football and if he makes the right signings we can win the lot, we have to try and be positive. At least until the transfer window closes.
July 13, 2008 at 9:34 am
Actually I still have faith in Wenger… but I genuinely think that there are serious issues going on in the boardroom. We have lost Dein and Edelman without any replacement… someone is therefore doing three jobs and the club seems to be falling, to a small extent, a phase of mis-managment!!
I can understand that they must stay quiet over certain things i.e. not denying that we are in serious debt, its obvious that needs to be the perceived state of the club to avoid paying 22 mill for tripe like Shaun-a-wright-twat-Philips.
Ultimately I agree with Gunnar, its us the fans that seem to hang on every article of NewsNow… Just today tribalfootball reported that we had signe some geezer called Samri or something…
I just want to see some progress this year and we let our second best player, in my opinion, of last season go on a free, its just unbelievable!!
July 13, 2008 at 9:35 am
ethan - the torres deal was done and dusted the other year, we’re not looking to buy him now, but we should have bought him at the time!
July 13, 2008 at 9:38 am
Gunnar, I think you’re the voice of sanity. As frustrating as it is that we are “in the dark”, imagine if you were the one supposed to respond to all this media noise. What do you respond to and what do you not respond to? It never stops and no matter how many times you say the same thing, you are “quoted” saying the opposite the same day without fail. Also, if Arsenal’s shares are publicly traded, they have even more of a responsibility to be as accurate as possible in their communications. It’s not going to change because it is the right way of doing things. You talk too much, sooner or later you end up with your foot in your mouth.
July 13, 2008 at 9:40 am
Also what I cant understand is, if we had paid 22 mill for torres we probably would have won the league… thats 50 mill to start with and then maybe even the CL… if you buy GOOD quality players you win things!
July 13, 2008 at 9:41 am
I’m reading quite a few comments that are saying we need an attacking midfielder to replace Hleb; is that not why we have signed Nasri? Or has he been signed as a left sided midfielder? (I thought that was Rambo?) Do we need Arse shaver and Nasri? I would have thought that the priority now has to be a replacement for Flamster doesn’t it?
Qaulity and experience debate aside for a second I think that numbers wise we have enough attacking options in midfield - sure if Ade leaves we need to replace him but - and I’m not saying anything new here - we suffered last term becuase of our defensive options not becuase of attacking options (albeit I accept the loss of Silva was devastating). I just dont understand why Wenger is not looking for a new Central Defender, it’s beyond me!
July 13, 2008 at 9:41 am
agreed sandman
July 13, 2008 at 9:42 am
Sandman, if we can lose Dein and Edelman and Wenger to the Euros for a month it shows they can’t be that busy, doesn’t it, I couldn’t fuck off for a month from my business, I wouldn’t have one to come back to!
July 13, 2008 at 9:42 am
evo
Atlético Madrid didnt want to part with him ..
if your suggesting we somehow got him several years ago ,
it was impossible ! he did an ade ! he wanted to go ..
he contract was in the last year or so .. and they sold him for maximum dollars
July 13, 2008 at 9:44 am
Cheers Sandman. My advice is to kick the newsnow habit. It does no fan any good. If the story shows up on the good ol’ BBC, it has a shred of truth in it.
I think we’re our own worst enemy at times. When it looked like Ade was off for 30+ mil, all that a Barca or Milan suit needed to do was come on to an Arsenal blog - read what the fans who see him regularly have to say - and alarm bells would’ve been ringing.
So there we go, a little less panic. We all agree that the paper usually write bullcrap about us. When we panic we’re giving their blind speculation more oxygen.
July 13, 2008 at 9:49 am
ethan - i have no idea what you are talking about?
Torres is already on Liverpool’s list and has already played 1 season for them, we should have bought him and even more so in hindsight!
how could we have torres on our list if he signed with liverpool, what is it you are trying to say?
July 13, 2008 at 9:50 am
good post, lets not fight amongst our selves , this would be more ammo for the nothern bias media,
my thoughts
sell judas 25,get eto’
2nd choices, villa or the hunter,
WOULD LOVE A NEW NO 1 AGREE WITH SANDMANS COMMENTS , GIVEN FOR ME WOULD BE A GOOD BUY,
AND YES FUCK SONG OFF!!!!!!!!
TWO TRIPS IN A CALENDER YEAR ACROSS THE WORLD ARSEHOLE..
July 13, 2008 at 9:50 am
Geoff Says:
July 13, 2008 at 9:33 am
Ethan, we play great football and if he makes the right signings we can win the lot, we have to try and be positive. At least until the transfer window closes.
how can we be positive when your post is hardly positive ???????
we as readers follow on from your vibe !
and not that i disagree with it .. i feel tortured and depressed too !
when we sign messi - ronaldinho - castellas - mertsacker - lahm - and get villa ill be happy !
those are steps that would make a club of our stature .. RESTORED !
having song - eboue -senderos diaby and a choir of youths in the shadows ,its a bit hard to think of blue skys and rainbows !
July 13, 2008 at 9:52 am
evo
stay off the wine mate !!
if you really have a problem with what im saying re-read it slowly !
July 13, 2008 at 9:53 am
Jacko I agree that Flamini’s replacement has to be the top priority especially with Gilberto supposedly on the way too.
As for attacking options in midfield. Maybe but question marks remain over a few of those options
1) Will Ramsey be up to the level required next season, he barely started for Cardiff. he is a talent but maybe hw will come through in the 09/10 season
2) Will Vela hit the ground running, again I am not so sure, I think we may start to see him in the latter part of the season
3) Can Rosicky shake his injuries and give us 3/4 of the season rather than 1/4
4) Is Theo a winger or a striker this year
For me if Rosicky can stay fit then we probably have enough, especially if Theo remains on the wing for one more season. Rosicky, Nasri, Vela and Theo with maybe Ramsey and god forbid Eboue will see us through. It is certainly stronger than last season.
And this is without looking at Gibbs, Lansbury and Randall.
I suppose if you look at that, it is hard to see where Arshaving is going to fit in unless we class him as a second striker
July 13, 2008 at 9:55 am
ive read it mate, you are attempting to tell me i some how said we got torres several years ago, how could we have, he plays for liverpool? you need to explain that one!
July 13, 2008 at 9:57 am
Ethan, the post isn’t negative, it’s irritated, I’m still positive, I’m just fed up with the manager letting the players and the press ride roughshod all over us.
July 13, 2008 at 9:58 am
hrmm, pity about the tom-foolery yesterday. i wasn’t on and haven’t read through but come on guys, don’t ruin one of my favourite sites!
on to transfer news, idk what is going on with adebayor jeez! i read that we dropped our price for him last night and didn’t believe it, i still don’t… i think that wenger still wants to keep him. this is why the price was high, and why it’ll stay high. that said though, maybe he’s finally heard the fans and decided to curse the fool!
song going to the olympics isn’t so flash either. its good for him, but not for us. our opening few games don’t look that bad to me so hopefully we can chill without him, but i’m not overly flash on the guys who’ll step into the position we’re expecting him to occupy for most of this next season.
all this said though, i think we’ll see another signing this coming week or 2. maybe huntelaar or arshavin. i’m not sure. enough of the trash news though…
July 13, 2008 at 10:00 am
wenger simply wont make the purchases we want because he has too many young players that will just get more stunted if he buys more players ahead of them !!!
can you guys get it ????
i would of expected maybe senderos or eboue to be sold ..
but those players have no homes to go too !
no one is interested in them !
or they would have moved on by now ..
we will get a new striker when ade goes ..
and hopefully a DM is also a must !!!!
also maybe a defender ..
but as far as any of them being earth shattering signings i think
we are kidding ourselves !
santa cruz might be the best of the best to come in …
eto would be good pat .. but not sure if we really want another ACN player ..
July 13, 2008 at 10:00 am
We could have got Torres 4 years ago when Reyes begged Wenger to sign him, but Wenger didn’t, the only one that didn’t think he would be a class signing. We all did.
July 13, 2008 at 10:02 am
Good on you James. Well said.
July 13, 2008 at 10:04 am
those 5.30pm kick off this season are going to be killers!
not good for us down here!
July 13, 2008 at 10:08 am
ok evo
you said
Evo in Oz Says:
July 13, 2008 at 9:28 am
torres was a bit miss on our behalf!
I said .. could you have even seen arsene pay 27 million for 1 player !!!!?
(read it again slowly !!!!! )
????????????? thats what liverpoo paid for him !!!!…
then you come back and say ….
Evo in Oz Says:
July 13, 2008 at 9:35 am
ethan - the torres deal was done and dusted the other year, we’re not looking to buy him now, but we should have bought him at the time!
YES . im well aware of that i havent been in a comma for the last year !.. and prior to last year you would have never got torres away from athletico not without breaking the bank!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
! many teams prior tried !!!!
so when are you suggesting we bought him ???
last year ?
for 27 million ???
do you know who manages us ???
do you know for several seasons hleb at 10.3 million is the most weve ever spent on 1 single transfer !
ade for 10 ….
somehow you expect wenger to pay 27 million for torres last season ??
are you for real ??????????????
July 13, 2008 at 10:08 am
why dont we buy berbatov the scum onli want 30 million for him. BARGAIN:P. fukin idiots
July 13, 2008 at 10:12 am
dude you are killing this site, give it a rest, can you really be assed cutting and pasting everyones comments back in to try to prove some manic point?
my only comment on the matter is - we should have bought torres! i dont care how much he did or didnt cost, we should have bought him - end of story!
July 13, 2008 at 10:17 am
Gunner - Our good manager/trainer also had faith in Flamini & Ade when fans couldn’t see anything in them and they produced last season. Denilson, Eboue etc have talent but presumably have yet to produce; whether that is immaturity, confidence or something else? He’s too tight on the financial strings to keep paying their wages if he did not believe so maybe this season’s the one.
July 13, 2008 at 10:17 am
Geoff Says:
July 13, 2008 at 10:00 am
We could have got Torres 4 years ago when Reyes begged Wenger to sign him, but Wenger didn’t, the only one that didn’t think he would be a class signing. We all did.
yes but how much would you have had to pay to get him even back then ?
15 +mil ? athletico knew he was a wanted man …
weve never spent that kind of money on a player ..
the problem is wenger .. he wants to get a cheap deal
and for that he gets a cheap player ..
i mean other than cesc and theo who have had regular games
who else has been a success recently ??
not many .. we need sagna style signings . and more nasri style signings .
vela could be good also ..
but i think the day of buying 17 year olds for our club should be over ..
at least for a while anyway!
July 13, 2008 at 10:19 am
geoff can you deal with evo …
before i do !
July 13, 2008 at 10:21 am
ok yes evo ..
we should have bought him for 27 million !
good call i agree with you !
god i cant see why wenger didnt listen too you ?!?!!
July 13, 2008 at 10:29 am
Ethan Evo has a point you are cutting and pasting everyone!
July 13, 2008 at 10:31 am
geoff read it he wanted an explanation !!!
do i have to re-type it ????????????
fuck me !!!
Evo in Oz Says:
July 13, 2008 at 9:55 am
ive read it mate, you are attempting to tell me i some how said we got torres several years ago, how could we have, he plays for liverpool? you need to explain that one!
July 13, 2008 at 10:31 am
OK guys my finger is on the moderation button.
July 13, 2008 at 10:33 am
Get over your ‘Torres’ obsession guys. I can remember Chelsea winning the league twice (at least once) with Drogba being a wasteful striker. And we only won the league only twice with Henry who was considered as the best striker in the world between 2002 and 2007. Or did INTER have torres when the won the league last summer?????? not even the highest goal scorer in serie A. The same way you bleat about wenger not signing torres is the same way barca fans talk about letting fabregas go or probably in a few years manure fans nagging about how they missed out on Ramsey because Ferguson couldnt be bothered to meet and persuade im in person. Any my point is simply ’stop moaning and understand that you can’t have it all’ …….. did it occur to any of you that liverpool won the champions league with players like cisse, baros, dudek, traore, garcia, hyppia etc
July 13, 2008 at 10:33 am
has something effected all your brains ???????
gang up on ethan because ???????
July 13, 2008 at 10:33 am
Guys
Did any of you read Geoffs comments this morning and of those of us who did not bother contributing much yesterday due to your behaviour
July 13, 2008 at 10:34 am
Ethan, you keep attacking people, it’s not them! Calm down mate.
July 13, 2008 at 10:34 am
Hey Geoff - sorry - ive taken myself out of the equation and i am cooking dinner!
Ill just come back on later so everyone can get their comments in!
July 13, 2008 at 10:35 am
Geoff Says:
July 13, 2008 at 10:34 am
Ethan, you keep attacking people, it’s not them!
when ???????????????????????
July 13, 2008 at 10:35 am
Ethan
come on buddy you are part of the problem, you are not innocent yourself
July 13, 2008 at 10:36 am
Also the future isn’t so grim for you lot, you’ve got Eduardo recovering extraordinarily well, Rosicky back, Vela (who I can assure you was top-quality on loan in Spain), now in the team. RvP also looks like he has recovered. As long as you can keep your attack fit you should have no problems. If you sell Adebayor Wenger should ask for Mario Balotelli to be thrown in as well a he is a young and upcoming striker who wouldn’t necessarily require first team football behind the rest of your strikers.
July 13, 2008 at 10:38 am
i simply responded to evo comment of we should have bought torres !
buy saying can you ever see arsene paying 27 mil ??
what was so fucking hard to understand ?!?!?
why is evo being so frustrating
then you get gunner fever telling me to stick nung- chanku ! up my ass !
and im attacking people ?????????
where do you get off ????
July 13, 2008 at 10:38 am
Ethan it’s time to drop it, this is a site for everyone to have fun. No more, let’s talk about the Arsenal.
July 13, 2008 at 10:39 am
the news papers dont run arsenal wenger does, iyou cant go by what papers say they will write what ever they to sell papers, wenger has already stated on t.v that ade is not up for sale and has three years left and he expects him to honour that,and charmain has also stated that. however if ade did turn expressed that he wanted to leave the asking 30 million. for what possible would arsenal drop the price evon if ade wanted leave which he has expressed that ,arsenal are no rush get get of him,they have raeson do drop the price ,the bottom is the y arenot desperete get rid him milan are the ones who aredesperete get ade so they have step ,arsenal dont have drop the price to suite milan.wenger has already stated his case he does need to make any futher comment, wenger does business in a very disrete and private manner he has not got time looking worring about the papers come up with every time.
July 13, 2008 at 10:40 am
My first comment was moderated out? :S
July 13, 2008 at 10:41 am
What was wrong with this (my first comment):
I am a Spurs fan but I’m not on here to talk bullshit about Arsenal.
I think Arsenal should take £25m for Adebayor, or say he isn’t going anywhere rather than placing this €45m price tag on him then have the press claiming all manner of things have happened to your asking price. Wenger should categorically state Yes or No to whether he is staying.
Also, Barzagli is a top class defender and I would have loved to see him mixing it up with our injury-prone CB pairing next season and I really think for £8m he could have improved your defense.
If Fiorentina hadn’t made it into the CL next season, I think that you would have stood a good chance of getting Sebastien Frey who is a superb goalkeeper. But now I think you should be looking at other top goalies like Artur Boruc, however you missed out on the young Hugo Lloris who ended up at AC Milan (I think).
As for defensive midfield, both sides of north London also need to strengthen ere and I think Lorik Cana from Olimpique Marseille who is a tough tackling midfielder. Ruben de la Red is also very good but would probably cost a lot more.
Finally, another deal I would like to go through for Spurs, although we haven’t been linked with him is the aforementioned Valon Behrami who has electric pace and is a dangerous attacking fullback/ right midfielder, a big improvement on Eboue and a cheaper option to Bentley (for Spurs).
July 13, 2008 at 10:41 am
OK Leon, so let’s not bother reading newspapers then eh? Wenger by the way manages Arsenal, he doesn’t run, though he thinks he does.
July 13, 2008 at 10:42 am
good post geoff its true that these agents and playrs are making a mockery of our club and hence we are left with no choice it would be better to sell these players like hleb and adebayor and bring in those players with quality and who would guarantee long term loyalty towards the club we love….i want players who would increase the team morale and provide quality and not just players who come in with a higher price and fuck off to some other rich club when they feel their wages can be tripled.
July 13, 2008 at 10:42 am
Morning all!
Well said Geoff, it doesn’t take two seconds to issue a denial…
We are so keen on stability in our finances etc… why do they not give a fuck about how stable the ship looks to the fans?
Any transfer news?
July 13, 2008 at 10:45 am
eto + 10 mill for adebayor………i think wenger should take it.
Eto’o + 10 millones = AdebayorTodo apunta a que las negociaciones entre Barça y Arsenal, pese a estar el Milan al acecho, acabarán con el ariete togolés en el Camp Nou.
July 13, 2008 at 10:46 am
Good points Pandy!
July 13, 2008 at 10:46 am
…………..constructive ones also!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 13, 2008 at 10:47 am
Thanks, Patrick.
July 13, 2008 at 10:48 am
http://blogs.notw.co.uk/sport/images/2008/07/12/cheese.jpg
July 13, 2008 at 10:49 am
Come on mate! I know its kinda difficult seeing all this tabloid b*llocks and not reacting to it, but seriously! That slimy agent Morabito who happened to mention to an effin ITALIAN TV station Ade was available for half price???
Who would beleieve that shite?
The guy is talking out his ass. Has been all summer.
As for being concerned about the spuds??? Are you for real? have you checked out whats going on there? No strikers, Poyet pissing off, and anyway, who gives a flying f*ck about them?
What is there to deny?
July 13, 2008 at 10:50 am
http://goonertalk.wordpress.com/2008/07/13/arsenal-striker-sustains-knock-in-charity-match/
It has started already and he has not even made training yet!!!!
July 13, 2008 at 10:52 am
99% of tyhe asrticles that mentioned Morabito’s quotes stated he was Ade’s agent FFS!
How effin lazy is that? He is acting for Milan! Course he’s gonna wanna try and make out Milan are holding all the aces.
Shit dam! I hope that spanish bullsh*t about £10 milland Eto’o has some substance to it tho!
July 13, 2008 at 10:52 am
Personally, I’d rather have Santa Cruz (proven) than a possible ‘has been’. If Eto’o joins our sick bay we’ll have lost Ade and possible 30 goals for zilch!
July 13, 2008 at 10:54 am
a few years ago i would have taken Eto’o but the guys got dodgy Knees now.
and his a wild cannon.
id rather have Santa Cruz, David Villa, or even The Hunter
July 13, 2008 at 10:54 am
I think Wenger should demand Ade sacks his agent, he’s just spreading lies.
If Ade stays, I hope he gets dropped for all his mouth.
July 13, 2008 at 10:55 am
patthegooner, I saw that as well. I think we should get rid of RVP he’s a waste of money. No doubt it was a minor knock that’ll rule him out for months!!
July 13, 2008 at 10:55 am
Obviously Eto’o would have to have some type of erm, medical, as I doubt we’d wanna sign an effin crock now! IF he is fit, I’d take him over Santa Cruz.
As for the has been thing, he’s ONE YEAR older than Santa Cruz. And I’d be a bit concerned that he’s a one season wonder (like Ade!)
July 13, 2008 at 10:57 am
This has to be RVP’s last chance season, if he’s injured again he has to go, I hope not though.
July 13, 2008 at 10:59 am
Mem that’s slagging I understand your point but I can’t let a slagger on, come back if you make a football comment, I love to have you on board.
July 13, 2008 at 11:00 am
RVP is top quality, but when Wenger went into last season thinking he could rely on him AND Rosicky, thats where his thinking was flawed IMO. He needs to realise that they cannot be called on as 1st team regualrs, but a bonus IF availanle.
If he thought like that last season, he’d have signed at least one other attacking player/winger, which is what we cried out for.
I love RVP and Roscily, but they cannot keep missing huge chunks of the season. I think that goonertalk piece about RvP was based on ONE poster saying RvP went off after a few minutes, so not much more evidence than that really.
July 13, 2008 at 11:04 am
I just wonder how much of it is in their heads Geoff
For both RVP and Rosicky, one slight knock and they are out for months
July 13, 2008 at 11:04 am
Angry - If Eto’s knees have gone then he’s a crock, maybe a young one but a crock all the same whereas SC played the EPL and did well for Blackburn last season and would do better with the service he’s get from us.
As for Ade, he’s got many flaws but starts WITH confidence this season, has the next period to iron out some of thos problems and will improve under Wenger which is why he would rather keep him. If however ‘his mental state’ cannot be corrected then AW will get shot for at least £24M and we’ll replace him.
July 13, 2008 at 11:05 am
He wouldn’t have gone off really early unless there was more to it.
The trouble with Wenger is that he won’t sign another player to play ahead of RVP, he basis it on the fact RVP could be fit & therefore he can’t buy a player that could end up surplus to requirements. I know thats true because he said it in the Q&A session. Therefore the only option left is to sell RVP & move on, otherwise we continually run the risk of him missing large chunks of the season.
Rosicky is hopefully a different case as the medics believe they have found & solved his problem. Sure he may miss the start of the season this time around but thats a small price to pay if he’s fit for the majority of the season!!
July 13, 2008 at 11:08 am
Angry/Geoff.
Agree entirely with your thoughts on RVP & Rosicky. If they don’t produce soon they’re not worth hanging on to and would be better to spend their wages on constructive alternatives who will stay fit.
July 13, 2008 at 11:09 am
Patrick;
Eto’o is a far better player than Santa IMO, but as I already said, it all depends on his fitness.
I would be concerned that in all his time at Bayern SCruz never scored many goals as he did last year, he’s 26, dlow and I’d be worried he just had a purple patch where everything went in for him last season.
Idealy Ade would stay, for continuity more than anything, even tho this Sinday Mirror piece has tried to shit stir by saying him staying is now a terrible thing (can’t effin win can we?) But he may improve, but his 1st touch cant tho.
July 13, 2008 at 11:09 am
Ethan, you’re in moderation because you keep posting other people comments, you need to get over it, I keep telling you and you keep coming back with more.
I’ve had a few emails from people not wanting to blog because you keep having a go, the comments you’ve posted are a response to your having a go at everyone.
You’ll be welcome back when you get back to normal, as I said on todays post, stop the slagging.
I like you mate, but the slagging has to cease.
July 13, 2008 at 11:10 am
I agree GMR
If Rosicky and RVP had stayed fit, we would probably have won the league.
And you are right Wenger must start the season by drawing up his best 11 on a white board and you can bet both RVP and Rosicky are on it. So when you lose that importance for 3/4 of the season it is going to hurt you.
Angry Loner, you are right you have to class both players as a bonus if they are fit, and get the back up in to play in front of them
I for one just hope for a season where we do not have to play CM in LW positions, or have to revert to a 4-5-1 as we have no strikers left.
July 13, 2008 at 11:11 am
Apparently, and this is from ONE person, RVP had a knock BEFORE the match and went off as a precaution!
July 13, 2008 at 11:13 am
What I will add is that Santa Cruz would be an awful signing because he cannot play the “Arsenal way” He thrives off crosses from the winger and long balls that drop to his feet. We do not play that way.
July 13, 2008 at 11:13 am
I really really wanna believe Robin can give us a full season, injury free. But I aint too confident.
July 13, 2008 at 11:14 am
That sounds like the way Ade plays MeM…
July 13, 2008 at 11:29 am
Ade plays with the ball on the floor, he runs through on goal, he can shoot from long range, he bundles the ball into the net. Roque only has heading and a decent (not as good or better than ade) finish.
July 13, 2008 at 11:29 am
I read an interesting stat yesterday that Arsenal conceded the fewest headed goals in the premier league (3 in total) last season. Shows we don’t need a tall defender like everyone’s been saying but that we do need a strong defender that can cope with the likes of Drogba. Micah Richards would be perfect but there is no chance we could afford him now what with Man City being so rich!!
July 13, 2008 at 11:31 am
geoph when to arsenal i have it very fustrating when to tranfers wenger is very private manner, i loot at appers as entertainment but i know its never going to happen,if you look at the amount of palyers we have been linked with how many players have gone to arsenal, one nasri thats it, it gets boring looking nontense that they the papers are comming up with, i just feel time for milan put up or shut up, they should make a bit or move on. sorry geoph wenger at news papers i not saying that the fans shouldnt but dont dont always believe what read that all
July 13, 2008 at 11:35 am
MeM… Do you think maybe he plays that way because that’s how Blackburn play?
It is a testament to his game that he can score so many goals in an average team… he is a great player and he has a better all round game compared to Ade.
Put Ade at Blackburn and he wouldn’t have done as well in my opinion.
July 13, 2008 at 11:36 am
GMR, that is surprising…
I’d like to know how many time we conceded from set pieces…
July 13, 2008 at 11:38 am
Ethan, I’ll remove all the offending quotes, OK, my post of today said enough’s enough, so stop right now and you are welcome back on.
July 13, 2008 at 11:39 am
Ethan… offending comments removed.
Can we start afresh now?
July 13, 2008 at 11:43 am
Do we not think Eto has a bigger ego than Ade?
Personally I think we would do well to avoid signing another big head.
July 13, 2008 at 11:43 am
GMR
not many defenders can cope with drogba !
thats what makes him feared !
we would have to break the bank to get a TOP class defender
and you would have to rest either toure or gallas in the process !
i cant see wenger lining either of them up for sale this season so i think your beating
a drum that will never be heard !
July 13, 2008 at 11:47 am
All footballer are big heads!
If he has a big head and wants to stay with us… I am fine!
He is a superb finisher as well…
July 13, 2008 at 11:49 am
a junior defender (below 24 ) is the best you can expect ..
someone who will take over from gallas within a season or 2 ..
but im not sure wenger will push gallas out like he has lauren and sol in the past .
July 13, 2008 at 11:51 am
yep im down with eto ..
anyone with superior finishing and skill that matches arsenal’s style of game is fine by me !
July 13, 2008 at 11:51 am
Ethan, we need more defenders than we currently have (well maybe not more, just better than the likes of Senderos). Other teams like Man Utd pick up the likes of Vidic for 7 million or so & he is top quality.
I agree though with Wenger as boss its highly unlikely to happen!!
July 13, 2008 at 11:53 am
According to the press, spurs want to sell Berbatov & sign Santa Cruz!! What are they bothering to pay scouts for as all they do is go after our targets!!
July 13, 2008 at 11:59 am
GMR
id feel more confident if wenger did what i said at the start of this transfer window .. get rid of all the dead wood …
I know its a harder deal to pick a good defender because most usually are at least 26-27 + before they peak ! So i think its a pretty stupid thing for wenger to buy them so young ..
with midfielders you can see if they have skills , but defenders need to do there time in the school of hard knocks before you can claim most are great players …
it will be interesting to see this young norway defender this season …
see if he is as good as people say he is !
July 13, 2008 at 12:00 pm
i still think we in the process of signing cristian zapata for £12m
if reports are true we bidded £9m, am sure we will go for add ons to get udinese to accept our bid
i be real happy if we bought cristian zapata, powerful defender and thats what we need
July 13, 2008 at 12:01 pm
wenger has already said he wont buy a defender, and although i wish i didnt, i believe him.
i think he will sign only 1 or 2 more, a striker if Ade goes,(which i hope he does, the greedy head up his arse wanker), and a Barry type CDM, hopefully actually Barry cos he is class.
Personally I would like to see Barry, Arse shavin and Silva come in, with “shaggy ooh londons too noisy” and AdeyMcGreedy fucking off!
July 13, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Wenger facing dilemma
Arsene Wenger admits he has the money for more signings but does not want to stifle the young talent at the club.
The Gunners, who signed Samir Nasri on Friday, have also been linked with further moves for Gareth Barry and Niko Kranjcar in recent weeks.
But Wenger said: “I can spend but I’m concerned that if I do it may kill the young players coming through. It’s a very sensitive subject.”
July 13, 2008 at 12:04 pm
cristan zapata, ruben de la red and a quality striker would do for me
what about happened to ricardo quaresma, no news on him so far, bit quiet
July 13, 2008 at 12:08 pm
rvp needs a change in career i think…. table tennis is what he should be playing!!!
how the hell does arsenal allow him to play all these friendlies?
goal 4 africa and adebayor wasn’t playing anyway?
irony isn’t it?
July 13, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Fair point on Eto Pedro, he is a great finisher and wouldnt fuck up half as many chances as that want away tosspot, and I bet Eto is familiar with the offside rule, which wuld be handy.
However, I still think his ego would be a problem. Even the great TH14 used to piss me off with his, “you should have passed to me instead” looks he would give anyone who dared to have a shot.
July 13, 2008 at 12:12 pm
i would take rscruz over eto!!
July 13, 2008 at 12:16 pm
choy - rvp couldnt play table tennis, imagine if one of those ping pong balls hit him, fuck me hed be out for months!
July 13, 2008 at 12:17 pm
I would take Santa Cruz or Huntelaar over Eto’o, but what about YaYa plus £20 mil, then we can get Santa Cruz or Huntelaar as well?
July 13, 2008 at 12:18 pm
so what wenger is saying is all the money from ade and hleb will just disappear into the black hole of arsenal ….
July 13, 2008 at 12:20 pm
works for me geoff
July 13, 2008 at 12:21 pm
the only way i can see us getting more players is as geoff says …
make money/player deals with ade /hleb !
ill take anything at the moment ..
with wengers latest statement it is a design for a mediocre future,
gambling on success is the reason for all my concerns !!!
its obvious with number allocations and the amount of young guys in the squad already that we are not going to get 1/2 the players we want !!!!!!
July 13, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Pedro says,
“All footballer are big heads!”
Oh yes, Nasri has a big head as well. (thought I’d inform fellow Gooners)
July 13, 2008 at 12:29 pm
No I think he has an ugly one, well he does when he smiles anyway!
You’re right Ethan, he’ll only buy when he sells, but he gets off on making money from transfers, so he’ll only buy cheaper, ho hum.
July 13, 2008 at 12:30 pm
i agree choy ..
i would go with EPL experience any day !
July 13, 2008 at 12:31 pm
yes they do all have big heads, Id have a fucking big head aswell if I earnt £30k + a week!
All I am saying is there is no need to be a complete tosser about it, look at The Cesc, Toure, Clichy to name but a few. Loaded, yes, big headed, probably, think they are better than all their piers, NO! Thats the difference.
Look at Raul and Guti, werent they left out of the spanish squad for being a couple of huge ego nob heads?
July 13, 2008 at 12:31 pm
ethan.. you know how Wenger sells himself to the football world.. as the number coach for spotting and developing talent
so he gets all the early phone calls for the youngsters and pays slightly over the top..remember Benitez having a go at him by saying that Wenger is paying a fortune for young upcoming talent .. me thinks thats where our wages go
AFC seems more like a flat structured developing platform than a trophy winning machine
this has to stop ..
now one thing on the Ade debate .. and especially versus TH14.. the latter was a ood and multidimensional player .. he was fast, could dribble and was able to contribute to the game
Ade by contrast is a monodimensional player .. good in the air, strong with the back to the goal and a box type player .. and thats it .. no more, no less .. he plays to his strengths and was very successful last season ..
I can easily see why an Italian club would want him .. Italians like Ade type forwards
there is no need for speed as the whole game is played out like chess ..
look at Vieri/Toni etc ..
plus Ade seems to be a robust beast .. he gets hardly injured ..
does this make him AFC material?? .. maybe not, but then he fulfilled his mission to his ab
July 13, 2008 at 12:31 pm
ethan.. you know how Wenger sells himself to the football world.. as the number coach for spotting and developing talent
so he gets all the early phone calls for the youngsters and pays slightly over the top..remember Benitez having a go at him by saying that Wenger is paying a fortune for young upcoming talent .. me thinks thats where our wages go
AFC seems more like a flat structured developing platform than a trophy winning machine
this has to stop ..
now one thing on the Ade debate .. and especially versus TH14.. the latter was a ood and multidimensional player .. he was fast, could dribble and was able to contribute to the game
Ade by contrast is a monodimensional player .. good in the air, strong with the back to the goal and a box type player .. and thats it .. no more, no less .. he plays to his strengths and was very successful last season ..
I can easily see why an Italian club would want him .. Italians like Ade type forwards
there is no need for speed as the whole game is played out like chess ..
look at Vieri/Toni etc ..
plus Ade seems to be a robust beast .. he gets hardly injured ..
does this make him AFC material?? .. maybe not, but then he fulfilled his mission to his ability last season
July 13, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Song chooses the olympics over Arsenal. What is it with Wenger and the mentality of players he has. Is there no fucking loyalty whatsoever to Arsenal from these cunts. These players treat us with contempt and use us to further their careers, Wenger is the reason for this. The players constantly see each other getting away with taking the piss so now theres not even an attempt to be seen to do the right thing. Its unreal the way things are happening at Arsenal
July 13, 2008 at 12:35 pm
After reading he had to come off with an injury in a charity match yesterday as much as I love RVP I feel it’s going to be the same old story over and over again this season, so when addy bye bye departs methinks the boss should buy 2 strikers and not one, because I don’t think we’ll see much of RVP this season, and even when he does play you can’t enjoy the game because one is terrified everytime the lad is tackled. Not his fault as he can’t help it, but 9 times out of 10 when a player is injury prone it will always be the same. Saha, Bellamy, Lundburg are typical examples and even in cricket Flintoff who’s fit at the moment but I wonder how long that’ll last?…
July 13, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Hey R3DD3R thanks for reading the blog and I’m glad you enjoy it, but I think someone who is as smart as you are should fuck off and read another blog, muppet.
July 13, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Im in the Benzema camp to be honest but that is very unrealistic. If we had to get anyone it would be Huntelaar or nobody at all and move theo up front and sign another winger.
Pedro - Roque played for Bayern (who have a closer style to us) and was dismal. He plays for a club that suits him and scored lots. His strike rate was far worse that Ade’s.
I would rather Arsenal change style to a more passing and running game than crosses and long balls like we did with ade last season. A bit like the 97/98 team did.
July 13, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Just to add to my last contribution I hope like all gooners that i’m wrong and that R.V.P and Rosicky remain fit this year but ???????????????
July 13, 2008 at 12:48 pm
MeM you have a writing style similar to another blogger called Tom Clancey, how weird! still not to worry, I like Benzema too.
July 13, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Geoff and Guys please accept an appology from me. I appologised to GMR yesterday.
I love this site so much it takes up far to much of my time, carry on Geoff/Pedro you seem to be great epople and you started something to good to think about pulling the plug because of a few disagreements.
We are all Gooners and this id the only place to talk Arsenal.