So being an Arsenal fan in the summer continues to be torturous, reading the morning papers is depressing.
The Spuds are in for Arse shavin and Luis Garcia and all we have to look forward to is reading that Song is off to the Olympics in August, that’s repaying Wenger’s faith and he’s not even in the team yet, get rid of him, he has Ade written all over him, twice in one year!
Yesterday we were after Barry and I was on cloud 9, today we’re giving Ade away at half price, I wish the boss would come out and say it’s all bollocks, it seems to me that agents and players are running football these days, why on earth would we say £35 mil one minute and £16 the next? it’s too stupid for words, it makes my blood boil that we just sit there and say nothing, say something Arsenal, we are having the piss ripped out of us as fans.
Adebayor is allowing it and should be sold or left to rot, we have to make a stand against these arrogant pricks, we have to. Ronaldo thinks he’s a slave, someone ought to make him read a book on slavery, the moron probably can’t read though, who do these twats think they are?
We’ll have to wait until next week to see who we are finally going to sign, but we have to do it before pre-season otherwise I doubt it will happen and pre-season begins next week.
Okay onto a bit of sillyness now, yesterday we had a few ding dongs, a few of you made up but a few came on and wanted to continue, well doing that just makes it unpleasant for others and will ultimately stop the majority coming on, don’t forget our mantra ‘have an opinion not get one’ and calling people names is not on.
So if it continues I’ll have to edit the offenders and if that doesn’t stop it, I’ll have to moderate in order to protect the integrity of the site and the majority of Grovers.
You know who you are and you are all good people, I don’t want this site to be like the other moronic ones, we are getting between 4 and 500 comments a day and that’s more than anyone, I don’t want that to stop, because if it does Pedro and I will ride into the sunset.
We don’t spend all our time doing this to get in between the few that want a tear up, if that’s what you want send us your email addresses and we’ll send them to your adversaries and you can rip each other in private
So come on Grovers, let’s get back on track, have a happy Domingo!
Le Grove is now smart phone compatible!
Pedro
Geoff
1st
give me my crown now!!
lol
4th
Well done Raif, you finally made it!
this is the 2nd time iv come first haha
thanks Geoff
7th
im starting to get fucked off with the Berbatov to Man Scum rumours!
Geoff
i feel like shit, every summer we get this transfer crap, am surprised barca and real have started on fabregas, maybe next summer probarly.
The thing is wenger comes out and says no one is leaving, then next week, that player leaves.
why cant they just be straight forward, look adebayor wants £120k a week, and he is up for sale for £30m
at least we know whats going on, as for samir nasri… we signed him, brillant but it did not excite me because it took so long to finalise.
wenger talks crap, i can remember he goes within 2 weeks, we will have some new players.
in my opinion we need 5-6 players now, if gilberto, hleb and adebayor leaving…
we need a strong defensive player and a defender in the list
Well said Geoff.
I don’t think he’s that good Evo, I just wish we’d sign a few, at least spend the £25 he said he had.
Gunnershabz you’re quite right, we need to spend the £25 and spend what we get for Hleb or Ade, thanks GMR.
Mehmut Aurelio, the brazilian turkish player
on a free transfer similar to marco senna, he would of been good for a few sesons, he now off to betis
he’s good enough….i just hate that we buy no one and man scum buy rooney, tevez, berbatov and every other bastard under the sun! how many class strikers can they get in a team and how many cant we! poo!
so if the kleb deal is closer, what does everyone think we will get in return? i would prefer 1 or 2 players rather than cash, as we’ll just bank the cash and call it a day!
Mehmut Aurelio ON A FREE.!!
i didnt see that one. im suprised no onw else was in for him,
Geoff
no one knows how much money we got to spend, £10m, £25 or £60m
andrei arshavin for hleb
klass-jan huntelaar for adebayor (i want him to stay)
cristian zapata for defence
ruben de la red for the midfield
Seems like the ‘debate’ of yesterday has not only kept people from commenting yesterday?
Well said Geoff!
Read today that the price is back to £24M if that’s true and should go through. Also saw U-tube comparison of Falcao & Santa Cruz which was well done & haven’t changed my mind that either will do but SC is my favorite for the position: simarly skilled but has the edge to play 4-5-1 and is EPL already so should hit the ground running: what we need to get a good start to the season.
Sad to see Song go to the Olympics just when the questions need to be asked of him. Unfortunate in my book so for me he’s a squad player and I’d have no problems with bringing somebody in in front of him………….new CB & DFM.
I would have all of them, bang on!
bayer leverkusen have bought renato augusto – brillant player
another player we lost out on is andrea barzagli, similar defender to nesta and he went to#
Wolfsburg, fucking hell, we need a defender like him and he went for like £8m
morning Grovers, I’m am arsehole.
last ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Geoff
do u really see us signing a defender, come on i love big phil but he has been with us for 4-5 years and still has not improved that much.
Evo i
im the same mate. i hated the fact man scum got Tevez i was watching him play in his home land for ages and was hoping we would get him.
same thing with Torres, they would have been amazing with our style of football.
but all weget is few year down the line were wenger comes out and says
“yes we looked at them before but we didnt make a bid” or some shit around them lines
his said it about
Ronaldo.
Ron-dino
Torres
Rooney
Tevez
Cech
the list is endles
I’m watching ‘Where Are They Now’ on sky sports & today its David Hillier featured. He is now a fireman in Avon!!
I suppose he always was a water carrier!!
Morning all. If this half price crap is true, then the only way that i can see it happening is if they give us two players. The U21 French guy, who’s name escapes me and….Maybe gattuso???
Jeremy Toulonan of lyon would be a good signing
Ruben De La Red would be an excellent signing
andrei arshavin, we know what he can do, he can be the kaka of our team
Real Madrid wing-back Royston Drenthe is wanted by a raft of Italian clubs.
Despite his struggles in Madrid last season, Drenthe attracted an approach from Juventus last week and it’s since emerged that Roma, Cagliari and Genoa have also been in contact for the Holland U21 international.
For his part, Drenthe is keen to prove himself at Real
i do really think, a midfield role would be great for him, similar to manu petit, left back turned into central midfielder
Well Said Geoff
I and I am sure there were others were not posting on here much yesterday because of the ding dongs and the abusive ping pong. Unfortunately it reminded me of days over on ACLF last summer and I hope it does not continue.
Abdenor, I hope you dont leave, you have been a top blogger.
Geoff I also think that this half the valuation talk is a bit confusing
The problem is we do not really know what it is half of. all we have heard is the fees mentioned in speculation. They mention it is also just over half.
Did Barca actually make that 25m bid? because that confuses it more. I struggle to believe we would turn that down and accept a bid in the region of 16-20m.
Some think it because a player is involved but again it is still speculation and names have not been mentioned in this round of gossip.
I think we are going to end keeping him
valon behrami, what do u think guys????
right sided midfielder
nice one raif -agreed mate!
Blatter should be pushed off his crown! He’s a nonsense man. Let’s start a campaign!?
Berami? where does he come from?
yeah raif
why does he not like to buy the mid-finish article
like fernando torres, £24m last year seems a bargain to me now
when david villa was valued at £17m, wenger should of just faxed valencia and said lets do business… he probarly say i knew david villa when he was 16
david silva, well he is class
geoff
valon behrami, right sided player from lazio
he can play as wing back or attacking midfielder, he is better then eboue,
the Pope has just touched down in Sydney, maybe he’s bringing me fresh faith that we will sign more players than we release
Listen up boys. I was watching France 98 vs. rest of the world on TV last night. When journalists asked Wenger about Adebayor, Wenger said Milan did not have the money & Adebayor is going nowhere. All these rumours about his price being dropped has been created by his scumbag agent – italian numpty and the press are just having fun with it even though they no that Milan have not made a single concrete offer so far. don’r read the crap in the press – includes s.y, b.c, etc…
If he’s better than Eboue then bring him on!
Aren’t the papers mostly bullshit anyway? This week we had Hleb supposedly attacking Wenger and Fabregas then he came out on his website in explanation. One paper today says there have been no offers for Adebayor and others say we’ll sell him for half price. If Arsenal spent all their time denying of confirming gossip then there’d be no time for football.
GUNNERSHABZ: They haven’t started on Fabregas for a few reasons really. Despite his tender age he has far more common sense and maturity than both Hleb and Adebayor. He has come out and categorically said that he is not going anywhere, and call the scare mongerers a bunch of pricks unsettling his teammates… including calling the team he has supported all his life a bunch of Catalonian Cunts…
I’m actually getting fed up at the lack of respect that we as fans are being shown. Our intelligence seems to get insulted at every opportunity. At the AGM with the supporters trust Arsene says “trust me I see them everyday on the training ground”, well we see Eboue every week on the teamsheet and he is SHIT, we see Song play a fantastic few carling cup games as a defensive-mid and slaughter all in his path in the ACN but then he gets played centre back, an area where we supposedly need no bolstering… Are we stupid?
We lost the title because of poor defending, and when you think about who in those areas i.e. Flamini, Sagna and Clichy you can only really point your finger at the centrebacks… not to mention of course that we were knocked out of the Champs League solely because of our pathetic “number one” Almunia…
I’m seriously getting worried… Adebayor and Hleb are no real losses BUT Flamini is going to take some replacing, I thought this would be Songs year but know he is fucking off to Beijing at the most important time of the season… WTF is going on at that place!!!
arsenal are the easiest target for the media, because we dont respond and we just let it go…..
and us fans suffer from it, at least fergie tells them straight
well said geoff
anything that stops wankers from barking up my tree im in for it!
like the motto says have an opinion…. not get one !!!!
and yesterday i got plenty when I WAS TALKING FOOTBALL !
others made it personal ! i am a 2nd dan in karate ! and anyone who tells
me ive lived my life on the bench doesnt appreciate what dedication is to achieve an accolade like that !!
I represented my state in cricket, karate & basketball , anyone telling me i no know nothing about sports better look at themselves long and hard !
Sandman:-
i understand ur pain, we all do
this fucker of a wenger has too much faith in shit like eboue, senderos
he needs to toughen up and put pressure on them, buy players and raise competition within the team
The problem is that if Arsenal come out and deny silly media speculation and refute claims from dodgy characters it would mean 2 things:
1. That the cretinous agents and hangers-on who come out with this trash are important enough to be engaged with by a club with Arsenal’s class.
2. That we would be setting a dangerous precedent. We would have to come out every day with denials or the situation will get much worse with silence being accepted even more as proof of a story.
I’ve had my doubts about how we communicate with the world, but I’m starting to think that it’s for the best. The fans have to be patient
Am I wrong, but isn’t there a guy at Arsenal taking a cheque for running our PR. Surely he’s the first person we should be getting rid of
GunnerShabz
exactly thats what im saying. its really silly some times.
plus the time wecould have got torres he would have been much much cheaper then 24 + mill as there was bonuses plus a player .
And as for being negative ..
what the fuck is there to be positive about ?
spurs getting a shite load of good players ?
when we have players leaving ?
AND HAVEN’T REPLACED THEM FOR YEARS !
I know some of you want to remain positive !?
but what the fuck is there to be positive about ???
HONESTLY ???
we currently are in a worse position than last season !
thats how it stands currently !
so forgive me if i aint just a bundle of fucking joy !!!!!!!!
what have we got to look forward too?
more youngsters getting a go ???
we’ve seen how long and protracted that proposition is ?
other football clubs are buying NOW players ..
If arsene knows something we dont i suggest he tells us what he is doing
getting 15- 17 year olds when we have more holes in our squad than a fly screen!
torres was a bit miss on our behalf!
big miss
It is a google translation but I think you can get the drift
Latest spanish news is Etoo and 10m
http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsport.es%2Fdefault.asp%3Fidpublicacio_PK%3D44%26idioma%3DCAS%26idnoticia_PK%3D526445%26idseccio_PK%3D803&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=es&tl=en
evo
torres is a huge player but with a price tag around 25 mil ..(27 mil final pricing)
can you ever see wenger EVER spending money like that .????
he sells players for that price but its TOTALLY against his grain to buy a player like that .. maybe there lays the problem !
Ethan, we play great football and if he makes the right signings we can win the lot, we have to try and be positive. At least until the transfer window closes.
Actually I still have faith in Wenger… but I genuinely think that there are serious issues going on in the boardroom. We have lost Dein and Edelman without any replacement… someone is therefore doing three jobs and the club seems to be falling, to a small extent, a phase of mis-managment!!
I can understand that they must stay quiet over certain things i.e. not denying that we are in serious debt, its obvious that needs to be the perceived state of the club to avoid paying 22 mill for tripe like Shaun-a-wright-twat-Philips.
Ultimately I agree with Gunnar, its us the fans that seem to hang on every article of NewsNow… Just today tribalfootball reported that we had signe some geezer called Samri or something…
I just want to see some progress this year and we let our second best player, in my opinion, of last season go on a free, its just unbelievable!!
ethan – the torres deal was done and dusted the other year, we’re not looking to buy him now, but we should have bought him at the time!
Gunnar, I think you’re the voice of sanity. As frustrating as it is that we are “in the dark”, imagine if you were the one supposed to respond to all this media noise. What do you respond to and what do you not respond to? It never stops and no matter how many times you say the same thing, you are “quoted” saying the opposite the same day without fail. Also, if Arsenal’s shares are publicly traded, they have even more of a responsibility to be as accurate as possible in their communications. It’s not going to change because it is the right way of doing things. You talk too much, sooner or later you end up with your foot in your mouth.
Also what I cant understand is, if we had paid 22 mill for torres we probably would have won the league… thats 50 mill to start with and then maybe even the CL… if you buy GOOD quality players you win things!
I’m reading quite a few comments that are saying we need an attacking midfielder to replace Hleb; is that not why we have signed Nasri? Or has he been signed as a left sided midfielder? (I thought that was Rambo?) Do we need Arse shaver and Nasri? I would have thought that the priority now has to be a replacement for Flamster doesn’t it?
Qaulity and experience debate aside for a second I think that numbers wise we have enough attacking options in midfield – sure if Ade leaves we need to replace him but – and I’m not saying anything new here – we suffered last term becuase of our defensive options not becuase of attacking options (albeit I accept the loss of Silva was devastating). I just dont understand why Wenger is not looking for a new Central Defender, it’s beyond me!
agreed sandman
Sandman, if we can lose Dein and Edelman and Wenger to the Euros for a month it shows they can’t be that busy, doesn’t it, I couldn’t fuck off for a month from my business, I wouldn’t have one to come back to!
evo
Atlético Madrid didnt want to part with him ..
if your suggesting we somehow got him several years ago ,
it was impossible ! he did an ade ! he wanted to go ..
he contract was in the last year or so .. and they sold him for maximum dollars
Cheers Sandman. My advice is to kick the newsnow habit. It does no fan any good. If the story shows up on the good ol’ BBC, it has a shred of truth in it.
I think we’re our own worst enemy at times. When it looked like Ade was off for 30+ mil, all that a Barca or Milan suit needed to do was come on to an Arsenal blog – read what the fans who see him regularly have to say – and alarm bells would’ve been ringing.
So there we go, a little less panic. We all agree that the paper usually write bullcrap about us. When we panic we’re giving their blind speculation more oxygen.
ethan – i have no idea what you are talking about?
Torres is already on Liverpool’s list and has already played 1 season for them, we should have bought him and even more so in hindsight!
how could we have torres on our list if he signed with liverpool, what is it you are trying to say?
good post, lets not fight amongst our selves , this would be more ammo for the nothern bias media,
my thoughts
sell judas 25,get eto’
2nd choices, villa or the hunter,
WOULD LOVE A NEW NO 1 AGREE WITH SANDMANS COMMENTS , GIVEN FOR ME WOULD BE A GOOD BUY,
AND YES FUCK SONG OFF!!!!!!!!
TWO TRIPS IN A CALENDER YEAR ACROSS THE WORLD ARSEHOLE..
Geoff Says:
July 13, 2008 at 9:33 am
Ethan, we play great football and if he makes the right signings we can win the lot, we have to try and be positive. At least until the transfer window closes.
how can we be positive when your post is hardly positive ???????
we as readers follow on from your vibe !
and not that i disagree with it .. i feel tortured and depressed too !
when we sign messi – ronaldinho – castellas – mertsacker – lahm – and get villa ill be happy !
those are steps that would make a club of our stature .. RESTORED !
having song – eboue -senderos diaby and a choir of youths in the shadows ,its a bit hard to think of blue skys and rainbows !
evo
stay off the wine mate !!
if you really have a problem with what im saying re-read it slowly !
Jacko I agree that Flamini’s replacement has to be the top priority especially with Gilberto supposedly on the way too.
As for attacking options in midfield. Maybe but question marks remain over a few of those options
1) Will Ramsey be up to the level required next season, he barely started for Cardiff. he is a talent but maybe hw will come through in the 09/10 season
2) Will Vela hit the ground running, again I am not so sure, I think we may start to see him in the latter part of the season
3) Can Rosicky shake his injuries and give us 3/4 of the season rather than 1/4
4) Is Theo a winger or a striker this year
For me if Rosicky can stay fit then we probably have enough, especially if Theo remains on the wing for one more season. Rosicky, Nasri, Vela and Theo with maybe Ramsey and god forbid Eboue will see us through. It is certainly stronger than last season.
And this is without looking at Gibbs, Lansbury and Randall.
I suppose if you look at that, it is hard to see where Arshaving is going to fit in unless we class him as a second striker
ive read it mate, you are attempting to tell me i some how said we got torres several years ago, how could we have, he plays for liverpool? you need to explain that one!
Ethan, the post isn’t negative, it’s irritated, I’m still positive, I’m just fed up with the manager letting the players and the press ride roughshod all over us.
hrmm, pity about the tom-foolery yesterday. i wasn’t on and haven’t read through but come on guys, don’t ruin one of my favourite sites!
on to transfer news, idk what is going on with adebayor jeez! i read that we dropped our price for him last night and didn’t believe it, i still don’t… i think that wenger still wants to keep him. this is why the price was high, and why it’ll stay high. that said though, maybe he’s finally heard the fans and decided to curse the fool!
song going to the olympics isn’t so flash either. its good for him, but not for us. our opening few games don’t look that bad to me so hopefully we can chill without him, but i’m not overly flash on the guys who’ll step into the position we’re expecting him to occupy for most of this next season.
all this said though, i think we’ll see another signing this coming week or 2. maybe huntelaar or arshavin. i’m not sure. enough of the trash news though…
wenger simply wont make the purchases we want because he has too many young players that will just get more stunted if he buys more players ahead of them !!!
can you guys get it ????
i would of expected maybe senderos or eboue to be sold ..
but those players have no homes to go too !
no one is interested in them !
or they would have moved on by now ..
we will get a new striker when ade goes ..
and hopefully a DM is also a must !!!!
also maybe a defender ..
but as far as any of them being earth shattering signings i think
we are kidding ourselves !
santa cruz might be the best of the best to come in …
eto would be good pat .. but not sure if we really want another ACN player ..
We could have got Torres 4 years ago when Reyes begged Wenger to sign him, but Wenger didn’t, the only one that didn’t think he would be a class signing. We all did.
Good on you James. Well said.
those 5.30pm kick off this season are going to be killers!
not good for us down here!
ok evo
you said
Evo in Oz Says:
July 13, 2008 at 9:28 am
torres was a bit miss on our behalf!
I said .. could you have even seen arsene pay 27 million for 1 player !!!!?
(read it again slowly !!!!! )
????????????? thats what liverpoo paid for him !!!!…
then you come back and say ….
Evo in Oz Says:
July 13, 2008 at 9:35 am
ethan – the torres deal was done and dusted the other year, we’re not looking to buy him now, but we should have bought him at the time!
YES . im well aware of that i havent been in a comma for the last year !.. and prior to last year you would have never got torres away from athletico not without breaking the bank!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
! many teams prior tried !!!!
so when are you suggesting we bought him ???
last year ?
for 27 million ???
do you know who manages us ???
do you know for several seasons hleb at 10.3 million is the most weve ever spent on 1 single transfer !
ade for 10 ….
somehow you expect wenger to pay 27 million for torres last season ??
are you for real ??????????????
why dont we buy berbatov the scum onli want 30 million for him. BARGAIN:P. fukin idiots
dude you are killing this site, give it a rest, can you really be assed cutting and pasting everyones comments back in to try to prove some manic point?
my only comment on the matter is – we should have bought torres! i dont care how much he did or didnt cost, we should have bought him – end of story!
Gunner – Our good manager/trainer also had faith in Flamini & Ade when fans couldn’t see anything in them and they produced last season. Denilson, Eboue etc have talent but presumably have yet to produce; whether that is immaturity, confidence or something else? He’s too tight on the financial strings to keep paying their wages if he did not believe so maybe this season’s the one.
Geoff Says:
July 13, 2008 at 10:00 am
We could have got Torres 4 years ago when Reyes begged Wenger to sign him, but Wenger didn’t, the only one that didn’t think he would be a class signing. We all did.
yes but how much would you have had to pay to get him even back then ?
15 +mil ? athletico knew he was a wanted man …
weve never spent that kind of money on a player ..
the problem is wenger .. he wants to get a cheap deal
and for that he gets a cheap player ..
i mean other than cesc and theo who have had regular games
who else has been a success recently ??
not many .. we need sagna style signings . and more nasri style signings .
vela could be good also ..
but i think the day of buying 17 year olds for our club should be over ..
at least for a while anyway!
geoff can you deal with evo …
before i do !
ok yes evo ..
we should have bought him for 27 million !
good call i agree with you !
god i cant see why wenger didnt listen too you ?!?!!
Ethan Evo has a point you are cutting and pasting everyone!
geoff read it he wanted an explanation !!!
do i have to re-type it ????????????
fuck me !!!
Evo in Oz Says:
July 13, 2008 at 9:55 am
ive read it mate, you are attempting to tell me i some how said we got torres several years ago, how could we have, he plays for liverpool? you need to explain that one!
OK guys my finger is on the moderation button.
Get over your ‘Torres’ obsession guys. I can remember Chelsea winning the league twice (at least once) with Drogba being a wasteful striker. And we only won the league only twice with Henry who was considered as the best striker in the world between 2002 and 2007. Or did INTER have torres when the won the league last summer?????? not even the highest goal scorer in serie A. The same way you bleat about wenger not signing torres is the same way barca fans talk about letting fabregas go or probably in a few years manure fans nagging about how they missed out on Ramsey because Ferguson couldnt be bothered to meet and persuade im in person. Any my point is simply ‘stop moaning and understand that you can’t have it all’ …….. did it occur to any of you that liverpool won the champions league with players like cisse, baros, dudek, traore, garcia, hyppia etc
has something effected all your brains ???????
gang up on ethan because ???????
Guys
Did any of you read Geoffs comments this morning and of those of us who did not bother contributing much yesterday due to your behaviour
Ethan, you keep attacking people, it’s not them! Calm down mate.
Hey Geoff – sorry – ive taken myself out of the equation and i am cooking dinner!
Ill just come back on later so everyone can get their comments in!
Geoff Says:
July 13, 2008 at 10:34 am
Ethan, you keep attacking people, it’s not them!
when ???????????????????????
Ethan
come on buddy you are part of the problem, you are not innocent yourself
Also the future isn’t so grim for you lot, you’ve got Eduardo recovering extraordinarily well, Rosicky back, Vela (who I can assure you was top-quality on loan in Spain), now in the team. RvP also looks like he has recovered. As long as you can keep your attack fit you should have no problems. If you sell Adebayor Wenger should ask for Mario Balotelli to be thrown in as well a he is a young and upcoming striker who wouldn’t necessarily require first team football behind the rest of your strikers.
i simply responded to evo comment of we should have bought torres !
buy saying can you ever see arsene paying 27 mil ??
what was so fucking hard to understand ?!?!?
why is evo being so frustrating
then you get gunner fever telling me to stick nung- chanku ! up my ass !
and im attacking people ?????????
where do you get off ????
Ethan it’s time to drop it, this is a site for everyone to have fun. No more, let’s talk about the Arsenal.
the news papers dont run arsenal wenger does, iyou cant go by what papers say they will write what ever they to sell papers, wenger has already stated on t.v that ade is not up for sale and has three years left and he expects him to honour that,and charmain has also stated that. however if ade did turn expressed that he wanted to leave the asking 30 million. for what possible would arsenal drop the price evon if ade wanted leave which he has expressed that ,arsenal are no rush get get of him,they have raeson do drop the price ,the bottom is the y arenot desperete get rid him milan are the ones who aredesperete get ade so they have step ,arsenal dont have drop the price to suite milan.wenger has already stated his case he does need to make any futher comment, wenger does business in a very disrete and private manner he has not got time looking worring about the papers come up with every time.
My first comment was moderated out? :S
What was wrong with this (my first comment):
I am a Spurs fan but I’m not on here to talk bullshit about Arsenal.
I think Arsenal should take £25m for Adebayor, or say he isn’t going anywhere rather than placing this €45m price tag on him then have the press claiming all manner of things have happened to your asking price. Wenger should categorically state Yes or No to whether he is staying.
Also, Barzagli is a top class defender and I would have loved to see him mixing it up with our injury-prone CB pairing next season and I really think for £8m he could have improved your defense.
If Fiorentina hadn’t made it into the CL next season, I think that you would have stood a good chance of getting Sebastien Frey who is a superb goalkeeper. But now I think you should be looking at other top goalies like Artur Boruc, however you missed out on the young Hugo Lloris who ended up at AC Milan (I think).
As for defensive midfield, both sides of north London also need to strengthen ere and I think Lorik Cana from Olimpique Marseille who is a tough tackling midfielder. Ruben de la Red is also very good but would probably cost a lot more.
Finally, another deal I would like to go through for Spurs, although we haven’t been linked with him is the aforementioned Valon Behrami who has electric pace and is a dangerous attacking fullback/ right midfielder, a big improvement on Eboue and a cheaper option to Bentley (for Spurs).
OK Leon, so let’s not bother reading newspapers then eh? Wenger by the way manages Arsenal, he doesn’t run, though he thinks he does.
good post geoff its true that these agents and playrs are making a mockery of our club and hence we are left with no choice it would be better to sell these players like hleb and adebayor and bring in those players with quality and who would guarantee long term loyalty towards the club we love….i want players who would increase the team morale and provide quality and not just players who come in with a higher price and fuck off to some other rich club when they feel their wages can be tripled.
Morning all!
Well said Geoff, it doesn’t take two seconds to issue a denial…
We are so keen on stability in our finances etc… why do they not give a fuck about how stable the ship looks to the fans?
Any transfer news?
eto + 10 mill for adebayor………i think wenger should take it.
Eto’o + 10 millones = AdebayorTodo apunta a que las negociaciones entre Barça y Arsenal, pese a estar el Milan al acecho, acabarán con el ariete togolés en el Camp Nou.
Good points Pandy!
…………..constructive ones also!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks, Patrick.
http://blogs.notw.co.uk/sport/images/2008/07/12/cheese.jpg
Come on mate! I know its kinda difficult seeing all this tabloid b*llocks and not reacting to it, but seriously! That slimy agent Morabito who happened to mention to an effin ITALIAN TV station Ade was available for half price???
Who would beleieve that shite?
The guy is talking out his ass. Has been all summer.
As for being concerned about the spuds??? Are you for real? have you checked out whats going on there? No strikers, Poyet pissing off, and anyway, who gives a flying f*ck about them?
What is there to deny?
http://goonertalk.wordpress.com/2008/07/13/arsenal-striker-sustains-knock-in-charity-match/
It has started already and he has not even made training yet!!!!
99% of tyhe asrticles that mentioned Morabito’s quotes stated he was Ade’s agent FFS!
How effin lazy is that? He is acting for Milan! Course he’s gonna wanna try and make out Milan are holding all the aces.
Shit dam! I hope that spanish bullsh*t about £10 milland Eto’o has some substance to it tho!
Personally, I’d rather have Santa Cruz (proven) than a possible ‘has been’. If Eto’o joins our sick bay we’ll have lost Ade and possible 30 goals for zilch!
a few years ago i would have taken Eto’o but the guys got dodgy Knees now.
and his a wild cannon.
id rather have Santa Cruz, David Villa, or even The Hunter
I think Wenger should demand Ade sacks his agent, he’s just spreading lies.
If Ade stays, I hope he gets dropped for all his mouth.
patthegooner, I saw that as well. I think we should get rid of RVP he’s a waste of money. No doubt it was a minor knock that’ll rule him out for months!!
Obviously Eto’o would have to have some type of erm, medical, as I doubt we’d wanna sign an effin crock now! IF he is fit, I’d take him over Santa Cruz.
As for the has been thing, he’s ONE YEAR older than Santa Cruz. And I’d be a bit concerned that he’s a one season wonder (like Ade!)
This has to be RVP’s last chance season, if he’s injured again he has to go, I hope not though.
Mem that’s slagging I understand your point but I can’t let a slagger on, come back if you make a football comment, I love to have you on board.
RVP is top quality, but when Wenger went into last season thinking he could rely on him AND Rosicky, thats where his thinking was flawed IMO. He needs to realise that they cannot be called on as 1st team regualrs, but a bonus IF availanle.
If he thought like that last season, he’d have signed at least one other attacking player/winger, which is what we cried out for.
I love RVP and Roscily, but they cannot keep missing huge chunks of the season. I think that goonertalk piece about RvP was based on ONE poster saying RvP went off after a few minutes, so not much more evidence than that really.
I just wonder how much of it is in their heads Geoff
For both RVP and Rosicky, one slight knock and they are out for months
Angry – If Eto’s knees have gone then he’s a crock, maybe a young one but a crock all the same whereas SC played the EPL and did well for Blackburn last season and would do better with the service he’s get from us.
As for Ade, he’s got many flaws but starts WITH confidence this season, has the next period to iron out some of thos problems and will improve under Wenger which is why he would rather keep him. If however ‘his mental state’ cannot be corrected then AW will get shot for at least £24M and we’ll replace him.
He wouldn’t have gone off really early unless there was more to it.
The trouble with Wenger is that he won’t sign another player to play ahead of RVP, he basis it on the fact RVP could be fit & therefore he can’t buy a player that could end up surplus to requirements. I know thats true because he said it in the Q&A session. Therefore the only option left is to sell RVP & move on, otherwise we continually run the risk of him missing large chunks of the season.
Rosicky is hopefully a different case as the medics believe they have found & solved his problem. Sure he may miss the start of the season this time around but thats a small price to pay if he’s fit for the majority of the season!!
Angry/Geoff.
Agree entirely with your thoughts on RVP & Rosicky. If they don’t produce soon they’re not worth hanging on to and would be better to spend their wages on constructive alternatives who will stay fit.
Patrick;
Eto’o is a far better player than Santa IMO, but as I already said, it all depends on his fitness.
I would be concerned that in all his time at Bayern SCruz never scored many goals as he did last year, he’s 26, dlow and I’d be worried he just had a purple patch where everything went in for him last season.
Idealy Ade would stay, for continuity more than anything, even tho this Sinday Mirror piece has tried to shit stir by saying him staying is now a terrible thing (can’t effin win can we?) But he may improve, but his 1st touch cant tho.
Ethan, you’re in moderation because you keep posting other people comments, you need to get over it, I keep telling you and you keep coming back with more.
I’ve had a few emails from people not wanting to blog because you keep having a go, the comments you’ve posted are a response to your having a go at everyone.
You’ll be welcome back when you get back to normal, as I said on todays post, stop the slagging.
I like you mate, but the slagging has to cease.
I agree GMR
If Rosicky and RVP had stayed fit, we would probably have won the league.
And you are right Wenger must start the season by drawing up his best 11 on a white board and you can bet both RVP and Rosicky are on it. So when you lose that importance for 3/4 of the season it is going to hurt you.
Angry Loner, you are right you have to class both players as a bonus if they are fit, and get the back up in to play in front of them
I for one just hope for a season where we do not have to play CM in LW positions, or have to revert to a 4-5-1 as we have no strikers left.
Apparently, and this is from ONE person, RVP had a knock BEFORE the match and went off as a precaution!
What I will add is that Santa Cruz would be an awful signing because he cannot play the “Arsenal way” He thrives off crosses from the winger and long balls that drop to his feet. We do not play that way.
I really really wanna believe Robin can give us a full season, injury free. But I aint too confident.
That sounds like the way Ade plays MeM…
Ade plays with the ball on the floor, he runs through on goal, he can shoot from long range, he bundles the ball into the net. Roque only has heading and a decent (not as good or better than ade) finish.
I read an interesting stat yesterday that Arsenal conceded the fewest headed goals in the premier league (3 in total) last season. Shows we don’t need a tall defender like everyone’s been saying but that we do need a strong defender that can cope with the likes of Drogba. Micah Richards would be perfect but there is no chance we could afford him now what with Man City being so rich!!
geoph when to arsenal i have it very fustrating when to tranfers wenger is very private manner, i loot at appers as entertainment but i know its never going to happen,if you look at the amount of palyers we have been linked with how many players have gone to arsenal, one nasri thats it, it gets boring looking nontense that they the papers are comming up with, i just feel time for milan put up or shut up, they should make a bit or move on. sorry geoph wenger at news papers i not saying that the fans shouldnt but dont dont always believe what read that all
MeM… Do you think maybe he plays that way because that’s how Blackburn play?
It is a testament to his game that he can score so many goals in an average team… he is a great player and he has a better all round game compared to Ade.
Put Ade at Blackburn and he wouldn’t have done as well in my opinion.
GMR, that is surprising…
I’d like to know how many time we conceded from set pieces…
Ethan, I’ll remove all the offending quotes, OK, my post of today said enough’s enough, so stop right now and you are welcome back on.
Ethan… offending comments removed.
Can we start afresh now?
Do we not think Eto has a bigger ego than Ade?
Personally I think we would do well to avoid signing another big head.
GMR
not many defenders can cope with drogba !
thats what makes him feared !
we would have to break the bank to get a TOP class defender
and you would have to rest either toure or gallas in the process !
i cant see wenger lining either of them up for sale this season so i think your beating
a drum that will never be heard !
All footballer are big heads!
If he has a big head and wants to stay with us… I am fine!
He is a superb finisher as well…
a junior defender (below 24 ) is the best you can expect ..
someone who will take over from gallas within a season or 2 ..
but im not sure wenger will push gallas out like he has lauren and sol in the past .
yep im down with eto ..
anyone with superior finishing and skill that matches arsenal’s style of game is fine by me !
Ethan, we need more defenders than we currently have (well maybe not more, just better than the likes of Senderos). Other teams like Man Utd pick up the likes of Vidic for 7 million or so & he is top quality.
I agree though with Wenger as boss its highly unlikely to happen!!
According to the press, spurs want to sell Berbatov & sign Santa Cruz!! What are they bothering to pay scouts for as all they do is go after our targets!!
GMR
id feel more confident if wenger did what i said at the start of this transfer window .. get rid of all the dead wood …
I know its a harder deal to pick a good defender because most usually are at least 26-27 + before they peak ! So i think its a pretty stupid thing for wenger to buy them so young ..
with midfielders you can see if they have skills , but defenders need to do there time in the school of hard knocks before you can claim most are great players …
it will be interesting to see this young norway defender this season …
see if he is as good as people say he is !
i still think we in the process of signing cristian zapata for £12m
if reports are true we bidded £9m, am sure we will go for add ons to get udinese to accept our bid
i be real happy if we bought cristian zapata, powerful defender and thats what we need
wenger has already said he wont buy a defender, and although i wish i didnt, i believe him.
i think he will sign only 1 or 2 more, a striker if Ade goes,(which i hope he does, the greedy head up his arse wanker), and a Barry type CDM, hopefully actually Barry cos he is class.
Personally I would like to see Barry, Arse shavin and Silva come in, with “shaggy ooh londons too noisy” and AdeyMcGreedy fucking off!
Wenger facing dilemma
Arsene Wenger admits he has the money for more signings but does not want to stifle the young talent at the club.
The Gunners, who signed Samir Nasri on Friday, have also been linked with further moves for Gareth Barry and Niko Kranjcar in recent weeks.
But Wenger said: “I can spend but I’m concerned that if I do it may kill the young players coming through. It’s a very sensitive subject.”
cristan zapata, ruben de la red and a quality striker would do for me
what about happened to ricardo quaresma, no news on him so far, bit quiet
rvp needs a change in career i think…. table tennis is what he should be playing!!!
how the hell does arsenal allow him to play all these friendlies?
goal 4 africa and adebayor wasn’t playing anyway?
irony isn’t it?
Fair point on Eto Pedro, he is a great finisher and wouldnt fuck up half as many chances as that want away tosspot, and I bet Eto is familiar with the offside rule, which wuld be handy.
However, I still think his ego would be a problem. Even the great TH14 used to piss me off with his, “you should have passed to me instead” looks he would give anyone who dared to have a shot.
i would take rscruz over eto!!
choy – rvp couldnt play table tennis, imagine if one of those ping pong balls hit him, fuck me hed be out for months!
I would take Santa Cruz or Huntelaar over Eto’o, but what about YaYa plus £20 mil, then we can get Santa Cruz or Huntelaar as well?
so what wenger is saying is all the money from ade and hleb will just disappear into the black hole of arsenal ….
works for me geoff
the only way i can see us getting more players is as geoff says …
make money/player deals with ade /hleb !
ill take anything at the moment ..
with wengers latest statement it is a design for a mediocre future,
gambling on success is the reason for all my concerns !!!
its obvious with number allocations and the amount of young guys in the squad already that we are not going to get 1/2 the players we want !!!!!!
Pedro says,
“All footballer are big heads!”
Oh yes, Nasri has a big head as well. (thought I’d inform fellow Gooners)
No I think he has an ugly one, well he does when he smiles anyway!
You’re right Ethan, he’ll only buy when he sells, but he gets off on making money from transfers, so he’ll only buy cheaper, ho hum.
i agree choy ..
i would go with EPL experience any day !
yes they do all have big heads, Id have a fucking big head aswell if I earnt £30k + a week!
All I am saying is there is no need to be a complete tosser about it, look at The Cesc, Toure, Clichy to name but a few. Loaded, yes, big headed, probably, think they are better than all their piers, NO! Thats the difference.
Look at Raul and Guti, werent they left out of the spanish squad for being a couple of huge ego nob heads?
ethan.. you know how Wenger sells himself to the football world.. as the number coach for spotting and developing talent
so he gets all the early phone calls for the youngsters and pays slightly over the top..remember Benitez having a go at him by saying that Wenger is paying a fortune for young upcoming talent .. me thinks thats where our wages go
AFC seems more like a flat structured developing platform than a trophy winning machine
this has to stop ..
now one thing on the Ade debate .. and especially versus TH14.. the latter was a ood and multidimensional player .. he was fast, could dribble and was able to contribute to the game
Ade by contrast is a monodimensional player .. good in the air, strong with the back to the goal and a box type player .. and thats it .. no more, no less .. he plays to his strengths and was very successful last season ..
I can easily see why an Italian club would want him .. Italians like Ade type forwards
there is no need for speed as the whole game is played out like chess ..
look at Vieri/Toni etc ..
plus Ade seems to be a robust beast .. he gets hardly injured ..
does this make him AFC material?? .. maybe not, but then he fulfilled his mission to his ab
ethan.. you know how Wenger sells himself to the football world.. as the number coach for spotting and developing talent
so he gets all the early phone calls for the youngsters and pays slightly over the top..remember Benitez having a go at him by saying that Wenger is paying a fortune for young upcoming talent .. me thinks thats where our wages go
AFC seems more like a flat structured developing platform than a trophy winning machine
this has to stop ..
now one thing on the Ade debate .. and especially versus TH14.. the latter was a ood and multidimensional player .. he was fast, could dribble and was able to contribute to the game
Ade by contrast is a monodimensional player .. good in the air, strong with the back to the goal and a box type player .. and thats it .. no more, no less .. he plays to his strengths and was very successful last season ..
I can easily see why an Italian club would want him .. Italians like Ade type forwards
there is no need for speed as the whole game is played out like chess ..
look at Vieri/Toni etc ..
plus Ade seems to be a robust beast .. he gets hardly injured ..
does this make him AFC material?? .. maybe not, but then he fulfilled his mission to his ability last season
Song chooses the olympics over Arsenal. What is it with Wenger and the mentality of players he has. Is there no fucking loyalty whatsoever to Arsenal from these cunts. These players treat us with contempt and use us to further their careers, Wenger is the reason for this. The players constantly see each other getting away with taking the piss so now theres not even an attempt to be seen to do the right thing. Its unreal the way things are happening at Arsenal
After reading he had to come off with an injury in a charity match yesterday as much as I love RVP I feel it’s going to be the same old story over and over again this season, so when addy bye bye departs methinks the boss should buy 2 strikers and not one, because I don’t think we’ll see much of RVP this season, and even when he does play you can’t enjoy the game because one is terrified everytime the lad is tackled. Not his fault as he can’t help it, but 9 times out of 10 when a player is injury prone it will always be the same. Saha, Bellamy, Lundburg are typical examples and even in cricket Flintoff who’s fit at the moment but I wonder how long that’ll last?…
Hey R3DD3R thanks for reading the blog and I’m glad you enjoy it, but I think someone who is as smart as you are should fuck off and read another blog, muppet.
Im in the Benzema camp to be honest but that is very unrealistic. If we had to get anyone it would be Huntelaar or nobody at all and move theo up front and sign another winger.
Pedro – Roque played for Bayern (who have a closer style to us) and was dismal. He plays for a club that suits him and scored lots. His strike rate was far worse that Ade’s.
I would rather Arsenal change style to a more passing and running game than crosses and long balls like we did with ade last season. A bit like the 97/98 team did.
Just to add to my last contribution I hope like all gooners that i’m wrong and that R.V.P and Rosicky remain fit this year but ???????????????
MeM you have a writing style similar to another blogger called Tom Clancey, how weird! still not to worry, I like Benzema too.
Geoff and Guys please accept an appology from me. I appologised to GMR yesterday.
I love this site so much it takes up far to much of my time, carry on Geoff/Pedro you seem to be great epople and you started something to good to think about pulling the plug because of a few disagreements.
We are all Gooners and this id the only place to talk Arsenal.
Geoff.
what did this R3DD3R say?
if im allowed to ask
El Tel no need, we’re all mates on here, well raif except that R3DD3R who was telling us we were all twats for believing the press, and so on, condescending cunt, and he reads our site telling us he likes it.
If we shouldn’t read the press, why does he read us! he missed that one though.
The thing is we’re no different to the Sun with speculation, we all like to debate, people like him just pick holes.
Easy boys,
I don’t normally post on a weekend – and I’m keeping it that way -so thought I would have my shout on your site.
One thing I would say – STOP GETTING SOOOO FUCKING STRESSED!!
We all know (or I would like to think we do by now) that the agent who said Ade is going for half price works for himself and AC Milan – he doesn’t represent Adebayaaawn. Of course it’s bollocks that we have slashed the price, what does he think this is – the DFS mid summer sales? Adebayaawn is not for sale – end of story. So we’re hardly going to slash the price, why would we? I don’t think Wenger or Arsenal should speak up about this – that agents comments do not need justifying and should be treated with contempt not a press conference. Let the agent spout off – he’s only making an arse of himself. Yes it’s frustrating all this is happening but if the club is going to counter claim any or all comments by agents we’d be here all week. Let them take the higher ground.
But like I said boys – stop stressing about this – you’ve already said the agents comments are bollocks – which they are!
Geoff -
thats true mate. people like that are just idiots.
clearly dont think before they decide to open there gobs
Geoff .
thats true mate. people like that are just idiots.
clearly dont think before they decide to open there gobs.
opps sorry for Double post. please delet one
I think people take posts a tad too seriously. I find Ethangunner uses a mock dramatic tone which does tend to cloud over the fact he speaks an awful lot of sense when it comes to footballing matters. His finger is on the pulse. Maybe a tad personal at times but his opinions are one of the reasons I frequent here. His opinion is organic and totally correlates with mine. Probably why I brush over the inflammatory tone!
R3DD3R you won’t get on, if you want to comment on a site where people work hard to write a piece, have the manners not to criticise it or it’s audience.
We get between 4 and 500 comments everyday from like minded people, I protect them from people like you, there are plenty of sites out there where you can leave acidic comments, not this one though.
If you want to leave a sensible non confrontational comment, you can come on, if you don’t you can’t.
Don’t keep sending in what you are though it just gets binned.
Nice one Raif and very deep Paulinho, Ethan will like that!
dont really see a problem with song going to the olympics, so his country have asked him to go and he wants to represent his country, hes hardly the highest profile footbaler to ever want to do that? babel ronaldinho so on, so should we not sign ronaldinho as hes stated he wants to play in te olympics whichever team hes playing for when they start?
hes not going to be a first 11 starter and hell only miss the first 2 gamesif he does go soits not a big deal at all, city have just paid 19m for jo whos never played in the prem and could do with the pre season to gel with his new team and get used tothe pace, that could be a problem for them, unless gallas and toure both get injured in the first game of the season we wont miss song for 2 games
A friend of mine told me that Adebayor was a good player but a shyte person. He was told this now very apparent bit of information by Shabani Nonda who played with him at Monaco.
I don’t think Ade will be sold, but the repercussions of him not being sold aren’t too great, if his attitude is anything to go by!
you’ll be suprised how many people get there internet feelings hurt or take things to personal on places like this. its the same for me on a website im on. tomany people want to spread hate Bcos they have the security of sitting else were on there computers.
thats why i respect anyone who puts them self out there for the masses to come to gether “so to speak”
Paulinho;
How muxh he paying you fella?
Thanks Geoff. Now forgive me while I meditate and get in touch my inner self. Hummm…………
Angry Loner, he’s bang on with alot of the things he says in terms of how we play and who is more important to our style of play than others.
Dan;
I totally agree about Song. He’s not that important in the grand scheme of things.
I hope Wenger limits Song’s CB experimentation to the Carling anyway.
EVERYONE. PLEASE PLEASE WATCH THIS.
this African guy in this video cracks me up with the way he speaks about arsneal
Arsenal: conspiracy against Arsene Wenger
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-d7XnwzqzQU
thanks paulinho ..
people like BB pat etc also know me for that ..
)
and know im fair and just ! (pats a bit of a back stabber thou
i didnt think i sound inflammatory ! more like irritated that the club doesnt react faster to the matter at hand !
i do however have no tollerance for ade fans especially now my thoughts have been confirmed about his loyalty !
i said he had you all fooled with his BS speeches to the sun !
i guess some people cant handle a know it all how is actually right !!!
and wenger selling ade is only justification to me that wenger didnt rate him enough to adopt the same mentality has does with cesc or red nose with ronaldo !
It’s pleasant on here today..
Is it only Song and the Brazilians going to the Olympics?
The African players all love to represent their country, I’m sure Toure and Ade would go if they are picked, perhaps that’s a problem with the Ade transfer..
dare i say there is no more signing coming in?
i hope i’m wrong but i reckon arsene gonna go along this line… bleed the youngsters and hope for the best.
if that happens god knows, even the tea lady might also hand in a transfer request.
Just noticed another paragraph in that story about RVP Injured
Emmanuel Adebayor was the second Arsenal player to of been selected in the squad. He surprisingly didn’t fly to Munich though, with the frontman’s future at the club yet to be sorted just quite yet.
Does anyone know if it is true that TT25 was supposed to have played in that Charity match yesterday…
Good Afternoon Grovers…….. Great article Geoff in many ways..
You know who you are out there, you know those of you who love your Peroni Beer, Well I dont know you all personally, but
I DISLIKE YOU IMMENSELY….
Last night I decided to remind myself of the crisp taste of the Peroni…….
Today, I am still being reminded of how stupid that idea was, and I blame you all
I have a rotten head, a dicky tummy and its your fault!! Bastards!!
Especially you Pedro
OMG look at Emmanuel Adebayor screaming for a transfer in this clip. its all clear now
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ywdV4Ex5JhM&feature=related
I will take that in gest Ethan, I am no backstabber,
You state that by selling Ade, it justifys your argument that Wenger does not rate him
How come the same is not true in the Hleb situation? Does he not rate him either?
For me that is flawed. I am sure Arsene would like to keep both but unfortunately both have acted in such a way that it has become almost impossible to keep them at Arsenal, and unfortunately due to our finincial position we are unable to let them rot in the reserves de-valuing.
Cesc is completely different, he has not made any vibes towards wanting to leave the club so can be relied on, respected and treated in whole different way
If anything Wenger seems to be trying harder to keep Ade than Hleb by having such a high valuation. Does this mean he rates him?
so wenger tells us what we already know…
he has money but won’t spend!!!
Surely Song will have spoken to AW before making himself available for the Olympics?
Does that mean that AW sees he’s got the CB positions covered (where he sees Song’s future)?
If Senderos, Djourou and Nordveldt are the only others available in his absence, it looks like we’re starting the season as we left the last one. I hope that’s not the case and he’s buying some talented experience at the moment!
what was ade screaming about Raif?
that’s disrespect right there.
i have no idea what he was screaming. but all i know Wenger behind him was acting asif he wasnt hearing him
Maybe he is starting with Senderos and Gallas
And playing Toure in CM alongside Cesc
Nothing will surprise me after the Shambles that was the Eboue Experiment
oh and were was i disrespectfull??
Thinking about it again, Song’s experience at the Olympics might outweigh what he would gain in the early part of the season on the bench or not involved at all if AW doesn’t see him as a first team player still!
Yes Pat, that crossed my mind also!
So Patrick, why doesn’t Wenger tell us that on Arsenal.com, isn’t that his job? to keep the fan based informed?
Gnarley,
Is your boy going to come good today in the mountains? He’s kept his powder dry at the mo’.
i meant ade…
Ethan – tell me more about Thailand and where I should visit?
Geoff –
yes i agrre with that and as i type this im hearing a speech by wenger at the AGM last year, and the things he sais are intresting
but what he says about the fans. well…. what he says what there trying to do is NOT what they are doing.
Arsene Wenger’s AGM Speech
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VFqpsVi8Qlk
Just Stick It In
ohh sorry mate i thought u said me haha
i honestly have no idea what he was doing as he was walking into the changing room screaming his head off.
but you would think a little bit of professional behavior would have been exercised
As someone said earlier, GMR I think, the PR side need a rocket up their Arse to get up to date and get on top of the situation. What they kick out at the moment is so boring the only time it’s worth visiting is when a new player has signed…………………… or to listen to the match if you haven’t got Sky like me and one of the radio stations I can pick up (in France) isn’t covering the match.
Geoff,
Just watched the AGM speech. Ethan must be getting to AW cos he mentioned him ‘the fan in Thailand’, maybe he’ll sell Ade now and buy who was it…………………?
Patrick7 -
HAHAHAHAHAHA
patrick7
where do you want to go ??
shopping ? beer drinking with a mix of naked ladies ?
sun and beaches ?
off the beaten track ?!
also id prefer you to keep the sarcasm to yourself !
re : July 13, 2008 at 2:39 pm
PAT
its not a flawed, hleb wants to go ! regardless of money , HE WANTS OUT ..END OF !
yet ade im sure initally wanted to stay but wenger didnt rate him enough to warrant a pay rise !
2 totally differing reasons for both parties ..
cesc is not different at all ! clubs have made advances towards him ..
it will be only a matter of time until he wares down !
i would say NEXT season if we end up cup-less again !
if you cant heed the warning signs we wont keep our players ..
besides im sure cesc is waiting for villa to arrive !
like alot of us reserving judgment until the end of the transfer period !..
What did you find that made you move there? I would want to stay fit as an ex-elite athlete like yourself (speed skating, marathons and triathlon in my case) so yoga, (proper)massage and bodywork, ayurvedic stuff would interest me plus of course the monks and their phenomenal talents; sun and beaches would be good also.
Sorry about the sarcasm but name a dozen countries off the top of your head when living in Europe and Thailand doesn’t come to mind.
I agree with you on Cesc
Cesc will be off unless we can start to match his ambitions, but at the moment he is showing respect and loyalty to the club so the situation is very different than that of Hleb and TT25.
And sorry both Hleb and Ade are moving for money. I do not buy these unhappy in the city stories, he has been tapped up and offered more money, Inter did the initial damage and now barca are taking advantage of the situation
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3191514,00.html
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3112650,00.html
Apparently he loves London in one of those articles.
As far as I am concerned we are best rid of both of them
Why would we go after Eto’o hes overpaid and will come in and not bother working for the team 3 seasons ago he would have been a great signing but now why bother.
We need players who are hungry for sucess not wanting to ride a gravy train for the next few years.
Pat
ade wouldn’t need to move for money if wenger rated him enough to increase his salary,FACT !
where as hleb said he didn’t like the UK ! .. plus ade says you only move for money meaning if wenger for filled his salary ambitions ade would stay … He has stated he didnt want to go anywhere .. and i think he was telling the truth .. but if your boss says no way your getting 120k a week then you have too go elsewhere !
but like you said best be rid of them both !
I hear you say hleb now states he likes London ! sure if you believe that !
personally if you’ve traveled the world i wouldn’t want to live in a cold climate either …
give me spain any day !!! london – spain -london -spain !
fuck its a no brainer !
patrick
i came to Thailand because we used to have a boys bash here every year after sporting commitments ..
in the end i wanted to be here more than australia !
so i did it ..
Australia is cold for 4- 5 months of the year ..
and the highest tax paying nation in asia ! and some say the world !
why would you want to be subjected to that ?!
great weather every day always 30 + degrees
beers and food are dirt cheap .. and the general cost of living ..
its also very americanized here .. and plenty of imported goods
!
so you dont miss anything ! i can get vegemite here FFS
and the main reason , just had enough of western women !
(sorry to all the women that read this ! )
I dont believe it but the cock said it himself,
I remember it at the time but I cant find his words, but the skylink include quotes from his agent saying how happy Hleb was in London
I think both Ade and Hleb were happy until they tapped up. The other clubs and agents have done a fine job in unsettling both players.
Unfortunately Arsenal have to mop up the mess, which will be especially annoying if we cant offload them.
Pat
hleb is ‘getting on’ also ! 27 …
& he knows arsene’s over 30 policy …
why stay in a place that will not give you an extension past 1 year when your over 30 !?
if you were hleb would you stay at a firm that treated you badly and age discriminated you after 30 years old !
is hlebs motivation success or security ??!?!
he’s moving for success too ! as he is getting on in years also !
Not a straight money move ..
you never put yourself in other peoples shoes !
I don’t think Wenger would pay Ade more Ethan as he’d have every player asking for a rise, I think his view is ‘you’ve only just agreed a contract, you greedy, stupid cunt’
I’d like to do a few courses in Thailand, I heard they’re dirt cheap and really nice.
theres no motivation for any player to hang around once your contract winds down and your in or around that 30 bracket .. seeing – pires – freddie – sol – lauren – bert (soon)
and moving on , almost PUSHED !!!
what incentive would hleb have for staying …
not to mention he probably wants some medals !!!
Its not about shoes it is about honesty
I have no problems in Gilberto’s reasons for going, as he is honest
Nor do I have problems in Hleb going for the reasons you state if he had stated them
But I do have a problem with players saying they love London and Arsenal one minute yet completely change their mind the next.
Both Hleb and Ade have done that and in my opinion I am happy for both to leave.
They are both replaceable
wenger didnt say we had valued him at 30 mil anyway.
i reckon he offered hleb more .. to stay i mean .. (arsene)
but for the above reasons , im sure hleb wants some glory !
money will be more than he is on currently , but i think wenger knows the solid
player he is and would have tried to bribe him to stay with more $$$ already ….
some disagree with me ! so i wont dwell on it !
but pedro showed us Hlebs stats yesterday ..
and they aren’t shabby !
you can understand why barca are interested , and he would complement barca as they have plenty of goal scorers already ! he would be in there to do a job , just like he did for AFC !
No one’s mention Barazite, I wonder if he’s pencilled in to play on the right wing?
Ethan, Is Perth cold for 4-5 months a year as I’ve seriously considered moving there on a couple of occasions & still could.
Re your argument over Hleb & Adebayor I think you’re wrong. Hleb wants out for money, he comes from a cold climate himself so thats not an issue & he stated something about 2 of the 10 best clubs wanting him & being prepared to pay him more money!! That tells you it all in my book. If Wenger was that bothered about him he’d have given him an increase but like in the case of Flamini & Ade he wasn’t prepared to do it. Infact Wenger allowed Hleb’s contract to run down without bothering to renew it. Ade & Hleb are no better than each other & the sooner they go & are replaced the better.
I agree with you about the dead wood. I’ve been wishing Wenger would lose all those players for years but it never happens.
Dont get me wrong I wish Hleb luck, his actions have not been as crude as TT25′s but I still think his publicised reasoning in it is bollocks and I wish he had been more honest. If he came out (in fact at the moment if any Arsenal player) came out and said, I feel I need to move on to win trophies (especially at his age) then I would not have a problem with it at all.
He will have his work cut out over there, and bear in mind that he did not exactly get along with Thierry, I am not sure on whether he has improved enough to wow the Barca faithful who will not put up with his goal contribution if things are not going well.
i never heard ade say he hates AFC or the fans ..
his move is money based 100%.. he is a merc , pure and simple ..
he said why would he leave Africa if it wasn’t to make money ..
where ever he lays his hat thats his home ! ( providing the bucks are there )
i think hlebs move is for glory myself .. thats my personal feeling ..
or why not go back to bayern! ? he had the offer !!!
he loved germany or so he stated !
i think barca equals success for him ..
I heard barazite was being lined up for a Spanish loan with Pedro (Not LG Pedro)
According to young guns Barazite might be going on loan next season
http://youngguns.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/arsenal-offer-barazite-pedro-botelho-to-real-sociedad/
GMR Perth is warm all year round. They shag sheep there so be careful!
Geoff
he’s down as a striker !
in senanta
GMR
yes perth gets cold about may – june- july – august ..
september has a spring feel to it cold nights – warm days … pleasant … and the weather is unbearable during december to feb.
38-40 degrees dry and day after day of pounding arid heat ! no need for your christmas pud mate ! or a roaring fire !
i know i cant sway you with the hleb debate .. cant win don’t try
but i think hleb moved due to london and arsenal over 30′s policies !
and personally after seeing every player of around 30 being discarded by arsene i dont fucking blame him ! id be on the look out for a new warmer home myself !
I see we’re linked with Aguero, supposed to be worth £35M, that’s one to be put on the linked players who won’t come to us based on that price unless they’ll take Hleb in equal exchange!
geoff thats tasmania mate !
perth dont have sheep !
perth has the biggest population of English of any city in AU !
so be careful of the facts !
well the biggest pro -rata ratio of English !
Thanks for the info’ Ethan but I drink rarely so what’s it got for me?
patrick
35 million
no chance !
ok trivia …
and i dont know this ….
what is arsene’s highest price he has ever paid for 1 player !!!!!!!????
anyone ???
I know they have sheep in Tasmania but they still shag ‘em in Perth don’t they? I thought they imported them!
Didn’t you say earlier £10.4M?
Unless you’re talking wages and that would be TH14 in his last season!
Wiltord £13 mil Reyes was 16 million euros, but it was never paid as it was based on appearances.
Got to go mow the lawn while the sun’s out…….I’ll look in in a couple of hours.
i dont know what you want patrick ?
drugs ? naked women ? touristy BS ..
average beaches ! (better than english beaches not as good as aussie beaches)
rest and relaxation .. great hotels good shopping ..
me personally i only drink when i go out clubbing .. or gogo baring
i want to keep the fun .. fun ! and business ,business !
i spose what im trying to say is i want to right myself off when i go out ..
I haven’t completely decided yet, but I always thought Perth had good weather thats why I’d head there. I’m aware that places like Sydney have more to do but thats not a worry for me. I’ll see though as I definately won’t be staying in England for much longer, I want to see some sunshine before I die!!
Ethan, neither of us will convince the other about Hleb or Ade, but the truth is we’re in agreement that both should f*** off now. We do need new players in though or we’ll be f***ed. I don’t want to hear how such & such a kid might step up, because they rarely ever do!!
HUH – I cant believe I have had no sympathy from any of you
13 mil
so that give’s us a huge indicator of the players we will get in …if at all !
sagna style buys at most !
no chance of arsene signing someone like villa,thats totally out of character
we can be assured of no huge eto’o style signings either…
based on that data !
yes patrick all i could remember was hleb for 10.3 mil …its been that long !!!
and thought reyes was a lot also , if nasri was 12.5 mil .. thats arsene done !!!
and people wonder why im frustrated !
spurs have spent 50 mil already ..
i hate our turtle urgency !
that alright rico sympathy passes !
GMR
im in total agreeable with you kids stepping up statement .
that process is too long winded and isnt viable for our club currently when we need
experience like … yesterday !!! last season even
try brisbane ! (queensland Australia )
always great weather there !
opps im totally agreeable with your kids stepping up statement .
id quite happily have a few sagna style buys as opposed to some overpriced, overhyped primadonna.
Well i’d glady swap a couple or three of our so-called wonderkids for a couple or three overpriced, overhyped primadonnas in the mould of Torres, Essien, Ferdinand……..
DDM
i hear ya , but we both live on ground zero and know
wenger just doesn’t pay for established ( really good ) players
people say yes ethan’s a morbid depressing sole !
.. thats only cause i know arsene…and i knew that he never has spent over 16 mil for someone and we need too ! ..
but as Geoff rightly put me straight .. 13 mil ! was the max .. that was over 6 years ago too !
theo and vela might surprise us .(nasri even ) . but past that , theres little to throw a party about !
I’d rather Wenger got rid of some of the kids & got the wage bill down to reflect the reality of our current first team. For all we rave about Cesc does he deserve 60-70k a week when he hasn’t won a trophy at Arsenal?? Thats not to say he shouldn’t get that wage but maybe it should all be based on bonuses, spurs have a bigger first team squad than us & pay around 30 million less per season in wages!! Liverpool pay 15 million less per season.
Wenger should start concentrating on the first team, because this excuse that he doesn’t want to hamper the youth can go on forever. Each year a new batch of youngsters will come through so when will be the time to buy experience??
this article just sums it all up..
eto plus 10million.. lol
even wit a damaged unrepairable knee. eto is 50 times better than adebayor, and i wonder why milan and barca want dunce so much. hmmmm
http://arsenal-mania.com/articles/3105558/Where-is-the-soul-of-football.html
Ethan, I made the point the other day that all Wenger’s success has been based on GG’s defence (all but 1 title) & he hasn’t won a single trophy with completely own squad. Our last success was the FA cup & DB10 was involved with that.
Would Wenger have had any success at all without TA & DB etc? I have serious doubts that he would, but people ignore facts they don’t like!!
egunner – i hear you too fella, but you know Wenger’s (or is really the Arsenal money men’s policy) of fielding untried, inexperienced, cheap players hasn’t worked so far, and another season of ‘close, but no cigar’ will result in serious pressure on both the board and Wenger…..
Afternoon all!
Man, I feel rough. went to a 60th birthday party last night and drunk my weight in Budweiser’s!
Am I paying for it now or what, I can bearly see the screen or type!
Good post again mateys.
I got in last night and was furious in my pissed state when I read that the Ade price could be halved.
That would be typical Arsenal. I was proud that it seemed we were sticking to our guns when Barca and Milan were sniffing around and it’s been thrown back in our faces.
I think its time the board swallowed their pride and got David Dein back on board. We can’t negoiate shit without him. At least he loves Arsenal and Le Boss would be happy.
I don’t see how David Dean does love Arsenal if he did why didn’t he keep his shares so he could stay on the board of Directors?
He could have sold some of his shares if he needed the money but he is a money grabber like Ade..
Come on lads don’t go negative again: we missed out in the CL final 2006 by 15 minutes with 10 men from very early on and last year ran out of legs through injuries, constant bad draws (leading to more injuries) and a run of bad refereeing decisions.
Now we’ve got to replace Flam, Hleb & Ade as the latter look certain to leave improve the defence, which may be integral with Flam’s replacement and bring in 2-3 extras. I suspect the ‘dead wood’ may be at the end of their contract by the end of this season as surely their time is up to produce by then and the first kids will be ready to employ by then.
Who’s the new buy/s this week then?
Hi Wrighty, hi Dennis, as I said the half price story is bollocks, but like you I can’t understand why they think Ade is so good, boy they’re going to get a fucking king size shock.
GMR there is a great golf resort in Perth called the Vines, it’s on my list of courses to play along with Royal Melbourne.
As Ethan said Brisbane is a great year round climate, it’s the same as Miami.
David I said the same thing, that’s why I don’t think DD is very bright, the minute he sold them, he kissed the Arsenal ownership goodbye, I really like him, but what a twat!!!
theres a really good piece on DB10 if anyone is intrsted in reading it
http://www.arsenal.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=508108
Thats wrote by the guy who comes on here slagging us all off I think raif..
Oh My God, are u serious.?? im shocked to hear that.
and if it is him then all i have to say about that is, that his a complete Arse Clown.
on another note. i would just like to say, im sick and fucking tired of reading these storys
about 32 year old Martins of Newcastle Utd. it really winds me up that that almost daily
we hear somthing about it.. i would so love it if Wenger just came out and said
“we dont want Martins” but then again since when does wenger come out and say any
thing about signings and rumors
Raif, that article is written by a guy who was 11 years old when DB10 joined Arsenal & I seriously doubt he remembers anything about it or what was written in the media. Everything the bloke writes is from books, not from knowledge & whilst thats not always a bad thing it is when you’re trying to preach to people like he does.
Bergkamp rejected Barcelona to join us not Real Madrid as he has claimed!!
guys, now were linked with sergio aguero hes about 17 but a great player i’ve seen him play a few times now and i was VERY impressed only thing is i can’t see Atletico letting him go.
Raif
I think Arsene has come out and discretely rubbished it
http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-utd/newcastle-utd-news/2008/07/13/martins-is-not-gunner-move-79310-21331589/
I think Sergio Aguero is a bit older than 17, but top player
Doubt we are interested though, I dont think we have spent 35M on the 1st 11 let alone one player
Probably the Agent being a cock trying to engineer a move, as he has spent his cut of the 20m Euros Atletico spent on him in the first place.
My bet is, we will constantly be linked with him for next couple of years, Arsene will publicly state his admiration for his desire and skills and commitment. It will then be announced that Atletico will cash in, we will all get excited about signing him. but Liverpool will buy him and we will sign some unknown Lithuanian who has banged in 112 goals in 42 appearences in the Lithuanian Sunday League.
which club did aguero start at then i thought he was an atletico graduate (shows what i know)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergio_Ag%C3%BCero
Is he not a bit similar to Eduardo?
Dein was pretty much forced out of Arsenal. Lets not forget he was in favour of Stan Kronke taking over and the rest of the board didn’t like that.
He feels Arsenal need to move on with the times and spend some money, isn’t that what we want? (to spend some money)
When he left he sold his shares to that fat Russian bloke in the hope that he could launch that take-over and be chairman. I suppose thats why he sold his shares.
At the end of the day he was naive to sell his shares but he DOES love Arsenal and probably only did what he felt is best for the club.
Idependiente in Argentina
Is he not a bit like Eduardo,
I dont know Wrighty
Is Dein not fucked now with his involvment in Red and White, I liked him but given the boards reluctance to talk to Usmanov, they would surely be crazy to bite the bullet and invite him back
I think they actually rather enjoy where Dein is now. But it must really nark DD that after losing his position through Kroenke it now looks like the Board are inviting him to join them,
But of course I want us to spend Money though,
his finishing is very eduardish but i think he might be a little faster than dudu, Eduardo is my favourite player right now though so i would prefer him over aguero but if i could havfe any player i want at arsenal it would be Aguero,Villa or Casillas
or Quaresma
Wrighty
I would love to hang a massive white sheet at the Emirates saying
SPECULATE TO ACCUMULATE YOU STINGY FUCKERS
Like Chelsea Pat?
Give up your history your stadium and sell out to a Russian..
Does anyone else still click on Caughtoffside links even though they are fucking annoying and 100% re-hashed shit
Can’t stop myself, I am clutching at straws to find the next signing that I might not already have read about on Sportingo, or Tribal Football or an actual factual and news breaking decent site
Dein has fucked himself mate by getting involved with Usmanov.
But I think at the time Dein felt that it was the only way he could get Arsenal taken over after the Kronke fiasco.
I wish in a way that Dein would resign from Red and White, resolve his differences with the board and take up his old role with the club as an employee.
Its obvious Le Boss needs help with signing players and Dein was, and is, good at negoiating deals.
What exactly was dein’s role at the club wrighty im not really in tune with the behind the scenes stuff?
Didn’t say I wanted to sell out David
But I do want us to spend a little more on class rather than kindergarten. Wenger has admited himself he does not want to spend as it may hamper a kids progress. Bollox, we have to get the balance right and at the moment it isnt
As for Chelsea, they are truly fucked once Abramovich gets bored,
I don’t want to sell out to a Russian. I just feel that Dein wants Arsenal to move with the times.
And spend some dough!!!
TREZE13,
Dein was a director and vice-chairman.
He was pretty much in charge of football matters at the club dealing with transfer and contracts. He also had good contacts and got us in G14.
Just what Arsenal need right now really!!!
Kiss and make up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kind of the guy that done all the work then?
He did alot of it mate!
I sound like Deins PR!
I didn’t say you did Pat I wanted that answer back from you..
Dein could have had more influence if he stayed where he was, but he never wanted the Emirates he wanted to rent Wembley, I am not sure the supporters would have been happy in the direction he wanted the club to go..
He seems to be liked just because he chose Wenger after a chance meeting and a meal from a few years before.
Even Wenger has said foreign ownership of EPL clubs is wrrong so how it would have worked I don’t know..
And yea just spend the money that our financial results suggest we have and get rid of some of the dead wood as GMR has suggested..
lol. so haven’t we had the common sense to replace him or something?…..seems like it would be a priority from a business and footballing point of view.
There was talk of Karen Brady, some chap from Fulham and the head of the football league to do the transfer part of Deins job but we are still waiting..
We haven’t as of yet mate. But I think Arsenal are trying especially as Edelman has now left as well.
Thats why I think that Dein and the board should just settle their differences and Dein should come back.
It probably won’t happen thoughh. In fact it wont.
someone else is going to get a director of football and then in a few years wenger will tell us just how close he was to employing him.
LOL
Wrighty don’t you write another blog?
Evening all!
What’s been going on?
Wrighty… new avatar I see! I thought someone was pretending to be you when it ended up in moderation earlier!
Any news?
Aguero eh?
Doubt it…
Yeah mate I write the Wrighty7 blog but enjoy coming on here. Pedro and Geoff have created a great site.
Hi Pedro, there is only one Wrighty7 my son!!!
Aguero?!
Great player, Wenger type as well. £35m? No chance!!!
I thought so! Treze, click his name and it’ll take you over there!
I was pretty sure they signed him for £15+mill last year, so I can’t imagine us being in the running?
Why do we always fail to pick up on these south Americans? (Vela aside…)
So we go on tour soon… still no movement… boring…zzzz!
lol there is news that wenger is planing a triple swoop on premier league trio gareth barry,oba martens,niko kranjcar
to be brutaly honest none of those 3 will be at arsenal next season coz wenger feels it would ruin the development of the young players coming through but we can expect atleast 3 more players at arsenal if at all ade and kleb leave.
i think it would be a nice touch if we revealed 1 new player at each friendliy until the start of the season but then i would wake up and cry
im off to sleep guys goodnight grovers hope tomorrow we sign some good players
Ah Pedro – you have showed you bad man!!!! …………..
GMR –
about the DB10 artical. i wasnt saying any thing about the person who typed it
i was only pointing out a peice about a player that we all loved.
i totally agree about what you and others had said about him. Bcos somone else has pointed out that he was the one that was chating Rubbish to all of us on here..
so in that respect his a utter Knob.
and about thr artical its self i found it lacking detail. he would sum up a season in 5 lines.
i do understand i said it was intresting but i said that before reading it.
my first thought was posting it on here for everyone else to read aswell.
after all isint any thing about DB10 intresting?
thanks GMR.
I read his article too raif and he said arsenal were in crisis in 1995, Four years after being Division 1 champions, 2 years after winning the FA cup, 2 years after winning the League cup, 1 year after winning the Cup winners cup and the same year as we lost in the final..
We haven’t won anything at all for 4 years where are we now?
Evening Rico!
It’s been hard to get myself off the site lately… so I thought I’d take a day off!
See you all tomorrow!
Night!
He also said Dennis Bergkamp was named after Dennis Law, it is true but the Dennis in Law is spelt Denis.. Bergkamps parents got it a bit wrong I thought anyone who knew anything about DB10 would know that..
Martins is a definate NO, SW has told NU he is not interested!! Hooooorah
Raif,
As you point out it’s always great to read things about DB10 & I really miss that guy playing for Arsenal.
I did read through parts of the article but I just have a serious dislike for the author, he is a petty know-all. He continually slags this site off in various blog comments.
My issue is that he preaches on like he knows what he’s talking about, when he doesn’t. We can all go look at the history of Arsenal & tell stories from the 30′s etc but the fact is none of us are an authority on that because none of us were there. He was 5 years old when Arsenal beat Liverpool at Anfield yet he’ll state what a wonderful moment it was, like he’d actually know!!
Sorry, AW has told NUFC
Hi,
As an Arsenal fan i am sick of hearing bullshit transfer rumours like last season wwas ribery and now its Arshavin..Lets be reasonable Wenger is never going to pay 24 million for a player and not a hope bacause andrei is 27so i will be shocked if we do!
If we sell Adebayor i can see wenger getting in no-one(not that i agree with it) ! but i believe he will give Walcott a more first team role and vela and bendther coming off the bench…We have 5 strikers if ade-bye-or goes-there is Vela,RVP,Eduardo,Walcott and Bendther and i can see wenger using Nasri as a striker sometime or behing the forward!
That is what i think…
How’s your head rico?
Have you had a good day watching the Thames flowing past your back garden?
Hi david – head is a lot better thanks, but sadly, we are not near the Thames, but would have loved to have watched the river flow – how calming
We got a bit caught up in the crossfire yesterday rico..
I just read through the yesterdays nite shift got a bit lively again, still it does in the pub sometimes..
Evening all.
I have just watched 03/04 untouchables dvd (again), and it has changed my mind on a few things and confirmed one or two others.
Even with Ades 24 PL goals last season, he is not a patch on the great TH14, nowhere near, not even nearly. So, Mr AW, sit him down, show him the above dvd, then show him the door.
I know TH is virtually impossible to replace, but mr AW please try! we dont need another 10 yr old with potential, we need someone with pace, vision, an abundance of skill and a proven goal scoring record. As Geoff said earlier, Eto would fit the bill.
In short I think Eboue, Senderos, Bendtener, Song and a few others you are simply not good enough, so please mr AW, sort it out now before its too late.
ok… quick poll before hitting the sack.. how many more players are we going to sign???
So what do you reckon, how many to come in and how many to leave this week
My bet is on 2 in 1 out
Bischoff and Barry In
Hleb out
Bloody hell Choy, thinking the same thing there
Barry would be a great signing pat
lol pat… lets say 3 out 4 in… gilb.. hleb and ade out…
being optimistic here… and saying 4 in!!!
GMR
totally agree with you on that one mate. it seems like his been copying and pasting stuff from Wiki’s and sites like that,
i was only 7 when arsenal won the league that day. the only thing i remember is watching tony addams lift the cup. on tv. and thats it. the rest is flash’s of my dad and uncles screaming at the tv. and that could be Bcos of the Stroys they have told over the years regarding that day.
so i humbly keep quite when it comes to matterlike that.
having said that iv lost my trail of thought and now im babbling on
Andy, I think you are being a little hard on Bendtner as he’s only 20, and Song has improved 10 fold but that mate spot on..
Choy I am positive today 5. Bishoff, Gourcuff and three more if Hleb and Ade go..
ok 2 out-Hleb and ade
2 in-barry and arshavin
I would be nice to actually have a vested interest when I watch England play for a change
I reckon Togotwat will drag this out until the last day of the transfer window. I can see another late night on Newsnow come Aug 31st
hmm………. 3 out 2 in (kleb,adebyebye and gilberto out) (villa and quaresma in ………..i can dream)
David – I admit song has improved but i dont think Bendtner will ever be that good. I hope I am wrong because I dont think he will be going anywhere. And as I have just watched the likes of TH14 and DB10 in action, lets face it nobody compares to those 2.
3 out and 4 in for me.
Moyes is after Gilberto I read!
kill93 –
the thing with ribery was that his best pall was here in TH14. one he was leaving for barca he wasnt going to come.
plus there was the fact that he wanted to much wages.
this was clear as glass when he Chose to play for Bayen when before he said he wanted CL football. and we all know Beyan wasnt in the CL. so he clearly went for the money.
as for ARS-SHAVINGS, he celarly says in a interview that he wants to play for Barca.
and since barca dont want him now and chelsea now has Deco, the 3rd Chose was arsenal. does wenger really want a player who chooses us last after the other 2 want him.????
its all agent and media talk to genarate a intrest in the play.
also to add Wenger stated ARSE-SHAVINGS would strugle in the Prem Bcos of his lack of fittness. and we all know how high most of our players fitness levels are, were one of the fittest in the league.
maybe it was a wengers way of saying Get Fitter and we may call you
3 out, Ade, Hleb and Gilberto.
3 in, Barry, Silva and Arshavin or Villa.
Then I woke up….
Dennis Nicola Maria Bergkamp..
Just saw that on Wiki ….
sorry for the bad typing. im falling asleep here. but im hooked to the screen aswell lol
david
its Dennis Nicolaas Maria Bergkamp.
Raif,
Yes i totally agree but you do not know that Wenger came out and said he had no plans in siging ribery!!would of cost us over 15 million!
The last time wenger spent big money was on reyes and that was a flop,not that nasri is in i hope he will be top quality!
And i am praying we just dont sign a 15 yr old replacements because i am so sick of hearing ”Arsenal are for the future”!
Here is another poll for ye,
Over the next 5 years what do you think will be the most money wenger will spend on A player??
Id say nasri will top it with 12 million
kill93
15 mill max. if the talent is worth it.
and thats for next year as i cant see us spending any higher then what we did for Nasri.
but if we sell ADE and HLEB. then wenger may push the boat as that cash is all from sales. and not from arsenals bank account, but i doubt it
Santa Cruz will break that this coming week (hopes)!
I pasted that in from the heading raif, but looking under the picture you may be right,
Notice I still never took the piss out of our greatest..
17 mil on mandingo dkembe dkembe in 3 years once he already signed for atletico……………. hmm sounds suspiciously like aguero doesn’t it
lol david lol
ill let u off then hahahaha
having said that i thought id watch some of his greatest goals.
” magical. just pure magical “
Have a good nights sleep Grovers, next week brace yourselves! night shift, don’t let me down!!!
lol night Geoff
Thanks Geoff!
just like to congragulate Pedro and Geoff on an excellent blog. Its by far the best site ive come across. Can I just ask you a few questions if you wouldnt mind, how long have you guys been running and where are you based. I used to frequent the gunnerblog site but ive had it with the pathetic clique of about 5 or 6 “Arsene knows” clowns who seem to control the site and anyone who questions or says anything contrary to their views now seem to be removed and possibly banned. Did you know they constantly slate your site despite the fact on any given day you have 3 or 4 times the amount of posts they have and probably 10 times the amount of people posting yet they still think they are superior. Fucking hillarious the delusions they seem to be under. I used to go on and take the piss out of these guys sometimes but ive finally tired of them. Anyways as ive said guys I think you got the best Arsenal site on the web so keep up the good work.
Out
Hleb
Hoyte
Gilberto
Ade
In
Villa
Bishcoff
Santa Cruz/Falcao
Yaya?
I think Hleb to go tomorrow, and Ade by Thursday. Bertie has already been done I think and will be unveiled by Pana tomorrow.
My wishes for the week would be.
Villa
The Hunter.
A keeper.
Arse Shaver.
Silva.
Veloso.
Here her Paulie,
Welcome to the Gunners Cyber bar.
welcome to Le-Grove Paulie.
were everyone can have a opinion and not a opinion forced down ur throt
Thats me done and no Peroni tonight, in fact, for ever!!
Be safe Grovers
night Rico.. have a good one
Sweet dreams Rico. Hope you wake up to see Villa in an Arsenal top.
any one still here?
i am
still got 15 mins till i go bed tho LOL
haha… so what do you do raif?
nothing great actully, just in retail.
any ways choy. im off to bed mate.
see you in the comments tomorrow
yup me too.. nite all… monday is the day for bye byes!!!
pat
i dont want to keep having to say this but DD sold his shares to his business partner in order to buy more … I think that is blatantly obvious , why the lock down then ????
to stop krankie ?? No it was to stop red and white co. then a newly formed company
from a take over bid .. Dein got a business partner involved
buy selling his shares in good faith , it would be what i would do to get a rich investor on side !
then he thought i have enough pull in the arsenal community to get another 6-10 % of the shares by other means ..
The board see’s it coming and signs a lock down check mating dein to 2012 !
I have no doubt that AFC would be more successful with Dein at the helm ,
he always wanted the best for arsenal’s continued success , and frankly since dein has left the slow slide south has been ever present ! We used to sign quality when he was partnered with arsene … It makes me wonder if arsene’s success can be attributed to wengers shadow back then …. DD !
????? ARE SPURS BECOMING MAN U’S FEEDER CLUB ????????
you wouldn’t sell your shares then be appointed director of red and white ..(which he is !)
what director on the current board at arsenal doesn’t own shares ???
he sold them with the intention of getting a whole lot more from the money he got for his original 24% proceeds … my guess is he would have at least got another 20% and secured a rich investor as his partner too boot !
the board shit themselves and demanded a lock down ..
Dein clearly wanted success on the field ..
and the board clearly wanted success in the accounts !
Any fan who purely cares about football on the pitch should demand the return of DD !
you need over 30% to command a take over, 24 % between them would have never done it
he definitely in commonsense circles had to buy more ! and fully intended too until the current board got a sniff of what he was trying to achieve .
gilberto joins pana and arsenal get 1.2mill deal completed.
http://arsenalanalysis.blogspot.com/2008/07/arsenal-sign-transfer-papers-gilberto.html
hopefully today we hear something good from arsenal
ethan,
I agree DD is a fan & anybody saying otherwise really doesn’t know his history, its amazing the stick he gets for selling his shares, yet those same people don’t say a word about PHW who sold the shares he inherited days after getting his hands on them. He is a far bigger traitor in my book because the club had been in his families hands for many years.
DD was a fool though for selling to Usmanov & whilst he’d never admit it I reckon he regrets it now.
However your argument about the shares doesn’t stack up. DD had 16% of the club & if he had the money he’d have bought the shares that became available which allowed Kroenke to get a 14% holding & the additional 8% that Usmanov has built up. The fact is DD needed a billionnaire because he doesn’t have the money. He is on very thin ice at Red & White holdings, they can get rid of him whenever they like.
The club miss DD. He was a very powerful figure right throughout the English game, but Arsenal have nobody now & thats why we’re such an easy target for every big european club. We weren’t even invited to that meeting last week between the top european clubs & Uefa. Liverpool, Chelski & Man Utd were though!!
Interesting info’ GMR. How come we never got an invite? Maybe it was to do with the English players content……………
Thanks Paulie, I’m glad you’re a Grover, the other sites I don’t read so I can’t comment, though I know a lot of Le Grove knockers are out there, it shows they read us, they just can’t get on!
We are London based and season tickets holders and started the day Wenger signed his contract last September, we breezed through 1,000,000 hits in early July and have had over 70,000 comments, so someone likes us, we like to think of ourselves as a big Arsenal family.
geoff waiting for the new post bro
Gunner mate it’s going on in 5!
4
NEW POST!
thanks for the help geoff
GMR
you know what i mean DD traded in his 16 % for cash
and was looking to get the 14% from krankie or individual share holders or even bankrupt directors ! by any means possible .. basically…
yes the lock down put him in a compromising situation but im sure if and when shares are made available in large quants. DD will be buying to make up the difference ..
and get the magical number required for the re-birth of red and white holdings ..
i mean the name was pretty specific ! it doesn’t take a brain surgeon to work out
the motives for constructing of the company to begin with ..
i just wish the olde farts would sell up and let DD + someone with some cash reserves take over.
At the moment it feels like arsenal is a car that not so long ago used to be new and shiny .. but with neglect and not regular servicing the car that is arsenal is driven into the ground .. and abused ..
the passengers that is hill-wood fizman etc use and abuse the car , it gets there fat asses around but no money comes from there pockets to keep the once luxury car
serviced and maintained !
If it keeps going this way it will be a one way ticket to the wreckers !